From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 00:13:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F38C43C024; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 00:13:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 830 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 00:13:16 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <14C68D1D-C040-44F2-81B4-3FE789C3A571@gmail.com> References: <781B9BE8-AB77-4A99-9553-D500B21EA98B@mac.com> <199835C1-24D3-46AD-8680-77A580059180@gmail.com> <1FA62BE1-128D-4A3D-8884-6BBB57E342BB@finleysound.com> <14C68D1D-C040-44F2-81B4-3FE789C3A571@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Matthew F. McCabe" Subject: Re: Logic studio new version Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 16:59:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 00:13:16 +0000 (UTC) On Sep 30, 2007, at 2:53 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > MainStage has a MIDI Through function. If you enable it every MIDI > Program Change event sent into MainStage will also be passed out > the MIDI Out port. If you have hardware effect processors there > they will of course change patches according to how you have > programmed them to. So, it's really just a pass through like using the MIDI Thru jack, right? If I understand correctly, MainStage cannot generate its own MIDI Out messages as part of its own internal preset hierarchy. Can you map incoming MIDI messages to different channels and program changes? Thanks! Matt From onlineservice@pp.com Mon Oct 1 01:43:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 12799 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 01:43:55 UTC Received: from safetee.net (adsl-70-128-189-150.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net [70.128.189.150]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C823C01D; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 01:43:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [71.200.71.213] (account support HELO User) by safetee.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.8) with ESMTP id 1172615; Sun, 30 Sep 2007 20:58:40 -0500 From: "Dear PayPal customer" Subject: Security issue : update your info Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:17:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: To: undisclosed-recipients:; Untitled Document From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 04:43:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 575A03C027; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 04:43:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 412 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 04:43:53 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:x-mimeole:in-reply-to:thread-index; bh=GZsyVVuPr2baRYgNwmv9DWFCDlH6FhUPZaWLUssO/eM=; b=NVNwYQcr/y1ud3Q6mZbvnwRl9v+1w5MzQLnQNAERi85pgzkJ5NH1j204rPInG5WsCUXlsrl0SVrr6JukJhfcL5jH10I2pi/glvi+medfCN7h1U6nNtoDa5znTuF4URqaAqzWee7XTlHx48jBl1AsjF/TCS1sYyh+rMwuihleYRo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:to:references:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:x-mimeole:in-reply-to:thread-index; b=uQ0H34xm7eFQBm0GNUl+XeJzq1NKSBmIJqQDEhGaES83lqY7TrABCLHKnQls5F5v2adI82QymEkFkOV3FqDpFK8KHxJk2gjAbd90maPN5EXHBfCMvUgnTwtnnj7RtNjdZAuLs+bteJz4KKB7UfqJYVcTRxrXSZvdvNHi9pu+xU4= From: "Tony K" To: References: <229264.69807.qm@web53006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <007701c803a2$5ab425c0$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> Subject: RE: i need different shoes Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 00:37:01 -0400 Message-ID: <00cd01c803e4$b6a6ca30$0200a8c0@daw1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CE_01C803C3.2F952A30" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 In-Reply-To: <007701c803a2$5ab425c0$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> thread-index: AcgDok9LIGu2hczPQDWXdw6Uz8hNNAAQeT0w Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 04:43:54 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CE_01C803C3.2F952A30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My mom has a friend who makes shoes=85 =20 HYPERLINK "http://www.thoseshoes.com/"http://www.thoseshoes.com/ =20 They are.. different. :-) =20 Tony =20 _____ =20 From: Tilmann Dehnhard [mailto:tilmann@dehnhard.com]=20 Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 4:42 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: i need different shoes =20 i once got my shoe sole stuck to the dl4 - literally had to shake the = thing off to get free. great hiking boots for winter, but a clear nono for looping... i played the rest of the gig in socks (well - and regular clothes, not = what YOU might think). =20 tilmann From: HYPERLINK "mailto:stevoj@yahoo.com"Stephen Scott=20 =20 Subject: I need brighter LEDs =20 No virus found in this incoming message. 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They are.. different. = J

 

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i once got my shoe sole stuck to the dl4 - literally = had to shake the thing off to get free.

great hiking boots for winter, but a clear nono for looping...

i played the rest of the gig in socks (well - and = regular clothes, not what YOU might think).

 

tilmann

 

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------=_NextPart_000_00CE_01C803C3.2F952A30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 06:50:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 955D93C01B; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 06:50:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1580 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 06:50:12 UTC Message-ID: <02df01c803f7$534782a0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Off Topic: Anglofixilization Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:50:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 06:50:12 +0000 (UTC) I'm really enjoying the Anglofixilization thread but it is most definitely Off Topic. Since a lot of people have been disturbed by the volume of off topic posts here at the list, can we at least be sensitive and discilplined enough to their needs to write OT: Anglofixilization on these posts. This will allow people who are not interested in this very, very off topic subject to automatically filter the discussions out. That being said and done, my ramblings on the subject: *************** I have read the most linguists are agreed that some form of Chinese (Mandarin or Cantonese most likely), Spanish and English will become the Linqua Franca (lol, how Eurocentric is that term?) of the world in the next 50 years. About the future of English as an international language of commerce which has been disputed: I've read that many German banks are now having their meetings in English not German. Additionally, the Chinese are spending literally millions of dollars to try and teach the people in Bejing enough English to be able to greet guests, journalists and the athletes at the upcoming Olympics. They have hired and ex-American military officer, specifically, to go around the city and clean up the Engrish signs that are everywhere in the city currently. None of these are signs that English is on it's way out as a so called 'world' language. The danger is not so much that the Chinese won't learn English but more that the United States, Great Britain and Canada won't learn Chinese. As powerful as the Chinese are becoming, however, their up and coming economic might rests on the strength of the so called '1st world' economies staying not only solvent but strong. Someone has to not only buy but also be able to be able to afford to buy what they are going to make. A huge percentage of world resources are controlled by the Europeans, British and Americans and the Chinese (and the Indians) need access to these resources in order for their economic climb to occur. A lot has been said about the decline of the US in the future. If this is entirely true, then why are the Chinese and Indians investing so heavily in buying land, corporations and resources in the US. They are, you know, faster now that even the Japanese did in past decades. I don't say any of this as a flag waving 'love em or leave em' American patriot. I'm about as radically left in my politics as one gets in the USA, but there is a lot of knee jerk hysteria going on in our country about our coming demise. Basically, world is going to be coming more geographically and economically homogenous, although given the current capitalistic models, this will still be at the expense of the lion's share of the world's inhabitants. The Rich will get richer and the Poor will get poorer..............it's inevitable unless a huge shakeup occurs. The scariest thing about it all is not that things are going to change radically in the economics of the globe but more that the ecology of the earth is going to suffer horribly because the Chinese and Indians will rise with a commensorate rise in the destruction of the ecosystem as the 1st World powers in the past few hundred years. The largest destruction of the ecosytem has occured within the last 50 years and is accelerating (declining airable land, declining forests, declining fish and animal populations, declining air quality, rising temparatures, et. al.). It's 4th and 5th page news in American newspapers but China is on the verge of a horrible ecological catastrophy. They are running out of useable water at an alarming rate and their rivers are very polluted on top of it due to unchecked growth. They are building gigantic coal manufacturing plants at the rate of 1 a month , currently, which is causing terrible air pollution. Their destruction of the environement will rival the US's destruction of the environment (although I should really say, the Major Corporations destruction of the environment) which is already unconscionable. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 07:32:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D13F03BFFD; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 07:32:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 373 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:32:52 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=M6WL0jGWuF20zorBawnpsJudFozilRpveVwHeCyyyWI=; b=QMh4Z5xxtFHP5273kMnxLjZr9+TYJFPRyjWDRngQh+svOUdSoWhFTqWW6MawM0dnD/8/0soWVC46IswWX7HXtzAoyX6Dxip/1oSp8/ZjJmXZGjgj7gs6salNCMR0anBZycmzt0q5wVgU3F/dSiaxGq/PpXDEt7bMlUHEBEQ93SU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=JWVY1BkHIhoPdnFbcQeQFP2sn6JXhEsxSjQ85/Qp5i3iVkzY7H4SixbKW2kqB2qKI/xOQcjLVk1HJS86Dn9WNX2PUDpokZBw0+JV0FFMt9WxupA0kBfi5KBWVOJirtQ0WzFmdIJh2wC6X/VZY25Fpm4PkRD18cXmL1+HkZN5s6E= In-Reply-To: References: <000c01c8037c$57c97e30$1001a8c0@succubus> <02a001c8039b$b720bf50$6601a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7FCA25F2-202E-4F7A-9D8E-5DCF0736E58C@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Loop Survey - Summary Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 09:26:33 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 07:32:52 +0000 (UTC) Do you really think a person that wants to use a software looper starts by deciding which operating system he wants to host that looping application? I find that hard to believe, since when you make music with a looping application there's no difference if the OS is Linux, OS X, Vista, Windows XP or whatever. But if a person wants to use a computer for many tasks, playing looping concerts being just one of them, then I can understand the preference of a particular OS. Mac OSX seems to work fine that way (in my experience). As far as I see the best solutions seems to be to get one of those new intel based Mac boxes, install Windows XP and dedicate the Win partitions for looping with Mobius and use Mac OS X for everything else. If you want to use Ableton Live or Bidule together with Mobius, both these applications are exactly the same on both systems and the license lets you use it both under OS X and Windows. per On 1 okt 2007, at 01.25, Zoe Keating wrote: > actually, i think it just gives a strong hint at which OS they > prefer (i'd jump on mobius if it would run without windopes)! > > On Sep 30, 2007, at 2:48 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> So the choice of either Live or Mobius gives a strong hint at >> which major looping methodology a person subscribes to; Mobius >> going back to the EDP school of working an interchanging loop, >> while Live goes back to traditional sampling techniques. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 07:46:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF4383C026; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 07:46:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <02d501c803f3$a4b4d5b0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: RE: Germany Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 23:23:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 07:46:14 +0000 (UTC) Bill Walker wrote: "The only Zappa show I remember seeing with you Rick is the one at the Paramount Theater in Oakland." Your memory is better than mine, Bill, but why were they booed off the stage, then? I remember that really distinctly. I thought it was because they were playing with some bonehead rock band or other but drugs were involved that night so my memory may be faulty. Also, wasn't that the same show where Zappa was really late and he asked and got the audience to do a 24 channel sound check in real time by democratic vote? I remember that was one of the best sounds I've ever heard at a concert and was amazed that 1) Zappa entrusted the audience to 'mix' the sound and 2) That it was a turning point for me.............realizing that audiences knew much more and were much more intelligent than I had assumed they were. Zappa went from mic to mic to line input to line input getting the audience to show (by raising their hands) when the right level was achieved. The sound, as I remember, was really, really good. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 08:01:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB6EA3C014; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 08:01:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=oPnUOx9DIHcNc14XRZUDIcJjP87+XXQaf7+iubtotA8=; b=PdvfC83Xrs50XiKt4dNmu1SBYFtgWkSyQagGMZjlX7uiF9dQkOsQhJiWqKQMLmtL3bnNnOVdY25pA1K7WjgHwbN9tKPDRvnbqSZza8DmaJiy5FyY9Dri0RNzEnshljJK1Qo4dMX1+udoazN9everpHDK82fxa7Wukm8rrrYIqbY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=APPPD5qzYpxwuzLfrXzGlsKimrdK6ojgRT0qvsG9a5r8yqJiCC7x2539zKUf6+VT3LO5iQmXQJYOa5Zgf3qdpJRyb78hkziQN5wD5d7Ez6jOUbBh+wmxwFVs1USz8M6I6oSXKzBehAPQvEi56kOJijGLUySccWfsZ1YPmmSKcR4= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <47002DC4.1070609@adelphia.net> References: <781B9BE8-AB77-4A99-9553-D500B21EA98B@mac.com> <47002DC4.1070609@adelphia.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7FDF604B-B6B0-4754-A15A-8B2D7662498C@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Logic studio new version Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 09:54:25 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 08:01:28 +0000 (UTC) > Paul Mimlitsch wrote: >> Anybody using this upgrade? Thoughts, especially in reference to >> "Main Stage" as a live performance tool? On 1 okt 2007, at 01.14, Brian Good wrote: > I've spent the past week setting up Mainstage for a live > performance in a couple weeks. So far, so good. You can use Logic's > softsynths without having to have Logic running, and, though I have > no evidence for this, I'm guessing that Mainstage might be more > stable for live work. Augustus Loop seems to work ok with it, > though I haven't done extensive testing. Sooper Looper AU plug-in should run in MainStage as well. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 08:07:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F3973C01A; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 08:07:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 380 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 08:07:14 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=/Mx43GHlrghahoVwge2nm6tnLNmHBXOo7eAZvV8l0Jo=; b=hV/0/PUNJQixajjPjNHHrQxrPbk0uurKLraflTGVBxydVwIgcD3eHYVZQcMWa7D2svB5ZorCLxSTzfIjaJ4QkCESqT4jkecTQ/r1js8YDeVwk+X7B7CSiUBCbuSV2ebgvgJQvx8oxhDZJn/MRxMNe2qkQ6DzqW9v0RaBoCofnl0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=mpDW933K6BqixYfEjablmcKsX1jvJLKCm9wI+4zwWxzgr/4pI5QvLqOveKH3CASn7njtpbYW86rNyQAZsALPdONnN2Qr0DdP2Xck09ppjuO83X2OI9Xh8d/N13KCrxSrmpEflKLJBrk9IZiYottbyA4glSHsY7r3YKL/cqu2Yuc= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <781B9BE8-AB77-4A99-9553-D500B21EA98B@mac.com> <199835C1-24D3-46AD-8680-77A580059180@gmail.com> <1FA62BE1-128D-4A3D-8884-6BBB57E342BB@finleysound.com> <14C68D1D-C040-44F2-81B4-3FE789C3A571@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Logic studio new version Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:00:48 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 08:07:15 +0000 (UTC) > On Sep 30, 2007, at 2:53 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> MainStage has a MIDI Through function. If you enable it every MIDI >> Program Change event sent into MainStage will also be passed out >> the MIDI Out port. If you have hardware effect processors there >> they will of course change patches according to how you have >> programmed them to. On 1 okt 2007, at 01.59, Matthew F. McCabe wrote: > So, it's really just a pass through like using the MIDI Thru jack, > right? If I understand correctly, MainStage cannot generate its > own MIDI Out messages as part of its own internal preset hierarchy. Yes, that's correct. > Can you map incoming MIDI messages to different channels and > program changes? Incoming MIDI message can not be mapped to "channels" but to functions. Any function of a soft synth or effect can be set to follow an incoming MIDI message. An incoming MIDI Program Change message is automatically loading up your saved program patch that corresponds to the particular program number. Ie sending MIDI PC#1 loads your saved Patch#1 etc. A "Patch" in MainStage can be any set- up of softsynths or only effects applied to an audio input. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 10:08:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4692E3C010; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:08:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 573 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:08:10 UTC X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 796702818 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: pre recorded talking between live played songs Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:58:34 +0100 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A72055FF9D1@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <40494.167.83.10.20.1191013614.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: pre recorded talking between live played songs Thread-Index: AcgEEaEriDZYLGnTR0iQeK4iXaK9Zg== References: <40494.167.83.10.20.1191013614.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: , X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2007 09:58:35.0540 (UTC) FILETIME=[A1CA3D40:01C80411] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:08:11 +0000 (UTC) we played recently & used a sample of (slightly stoned-sounding) bob dylan talking to his audience back in the 60s..... if you slow bob dylan's speaking-voice down by just the right amount, he sounds like hendrix. btw- did anyone else get another s/w update from electrix by email last week? duncan. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 10:29:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACD6C3BFBB; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:29:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2327 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 10:29:44 UTC Message-ID: <4700C4B0.4040003@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 11:58:08 +0200 From: van Sinn Reply-To: vansinn@post.cybercity.dk Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Logic studio new version References: <781B9BE8-AB77-4A99-9553-D500B21EA98B@mac.com> <46FFA7D8.5050208@post.cybercity.dk> In-Reply-To: <46FFA7D8.5050208@post.cybercity.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1EAnvC.A.rFE.YwMAHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:29:44 +0000 (UTC) van Sinn wrote: > Paul Mimlitsch wrote: > >> Anybody using this upgrade? Thoughts, especially in reference to >> "Main Stage" as a live performance tool? > > Nope, but I'll attend a product demo of LP8, arranged by a decently > large studio and a music shop here in Cph tomorrow evening. > I'll try to summmarize my findings.. I've taken notes on peculiarities, missing features et al.. as reported in this thread. Besides what's already been mentioned, anything particular I should try to poke from the folks at the demo/seminar? -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 11:10:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62E373C01C; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 11:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 303 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 11:10:24 UTC Message-ID: <008c01c8041b$0ba0e120$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> Reply-To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <000c01c8037c$57c97e30$1001a8c0@succubus> Subject: OT: how to change reply adress in outl expr? Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 13:05:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+djYk8zVgFhV8sr82vfOphEPZsaxisQSnBu6Y Q6zEYhi5ijnpvlTXyHcZQZx07xUIDKOW3DrEpgW0ENAb2XkLCG PutOFOtpScDsZxIlwF8KrsFysc2AaNa Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 11:10:25 +0000 (UTC) a fellow list member has told me that when replying to my posts, the mail goes to me only instead of the whole list. this explains all the "private" replies i have gotten. i use outlook express and chewed through all the little option windows - can't find the thingie. anybody out there who could help me with this? (in this case the reply setting comes in handy...) all the best - tilmann From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 12:12:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E8B93C01C; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:12:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 350 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:12:56 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <7FDF604B-B6B0-4754-A15A-8B2D7662498C@gmail.com> References: <781B9BE8-AB77-4A99-9553-D500B21EA98B@mac.com> <47002DC4.1070609@adelphia.net> <7FDF604B-B6B0-4754-A15A-8B2D7662498C@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1F843ABD-DE5B-4839-97DF-C127D94D2D76@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: looper in Logic (Re: Logic studio new version) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 06:08:36 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:12:57 +0000 (UTC) Per; What are you thoughts on using the delay (either software "pedal board" or "rack mount" versions) in Logic as a simple "looper" - ie: length of delay, feedback control etc.? On Oct 1, 2007, at 1:54 AM, Per Boysen wrote: >> Paul Mimlitsch wrote: >>> Anybody using this upgrade? Thoughts, especially in reference to >>> "Main Stage" as a live performance tool? > > On 1 okt 2007, at 01.14, Brian Good wrote: >> I've spent the past week setting up Mainstage for a live >> performance in a couple weeks. So far, so good. You can use >> Logic's softsynths without having to have Logic running, and, >> though I have no evidence for this, I'm guessing that Mainstage >> might be more stable for live work. Augustus Loop seems to work ok >> with it, though I haven't done extensive testing. > > Sooper Looper AU plug-in should run in MainStage as well. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 12:22:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C28D03C011; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 446 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:22:42 UTC In-Reply-To: <02df01c803f7$534782a0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> References: <02df01c803f7$534782a0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <534F4974-D305-4D32-B88B-A90A2C3DA04B@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Silva Subject: Re: Off Topic: Anglofixilization Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 08:14:49 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Rick. I hate to sound like a dumb ass but how do I contribute to these ramblings 'off topic' and with out eating up bandwidth? I am a neophyte and appreciate your help/ You are the man! Chuck Silva On Oct 1, 2007, at 2:50 AM, Rick Walker wrote: > I'm really enjoying the Anglofixilization thread > but it is most definitely Off Topic. > > Since a lot of people have been disturbed by the volume of > off topic posts here at the list, can we at least be sensitive > and discilplined enough to their needs to write OT: > Anglofixilization > on these posts. > > This will allow people who are not interested in this very, very > off topic subject > to automatically filter the discussions out. > > That being said and done, my ramblings on the subject: > > *************** > > I have read the most linguists are agreed that > some form of Chinese (Mandarin or Cantonese most likely), > Spanish and English will become the Linqua Franca (lol, how > Eurocentric is that term?) > of the world in the next 50 years. > > About the future of English as an international language of > commerce which has been > disputed: > > I've read that many German banks are now having their meetings in > English not German. > > Additionally, the Chinese are spending literally millions of > dollars to try and teach > the people in Bejing enough English to be able to greet guests, > journalists > and the athletes at the upcoming Olympics. They have hired and ex- > American > military officer, specifically, to go around the city and clean up > the > Engrish signs that are everywhere in the city currently. > > None of these are signs that English is on it's way out as a so > called 'world' language. > > The danger is not so much that the Chinese won't learn English but > more that the United > States, Great Britain and Canada won't learn Chinese. > > As powerful as the Chinese are becoming, however, their up and > coming economic might rests > on the strength of the so called '1st world' economies staying not > only solvent but > strong. Someone has to not only buy but also be able to be able > to afford to buy what they are going to make. > > A huge percentage of world resources are controlled by the Europeans, > British and Americans and the Chinese (and the Indians) need access > to these resources > in order for their economic climb to occur. > > A lot has been said about the decline of the US in the future. If > this is entirely true, then > why are the Chinese and Indians investing so heavily in buying > land, corporations and resources in the US. > They are, you know, faster now that even the Japanese did in past > decades. > > I don't say any of this as a flag waving 'love em or leave em' > American patriot. > > I'm about as radically left in my politics as one gets in the > USA, but there is a lot of knee jerk hysteria > going on in our country about our coming demise. > > Basically, world is going to be coming more geographically and > economically homogenous, although given the current > capitalistic models, this will still be at the expense of the > lion's share of the world's inhabitants. > > The Rich will get richer and the Poor will get > poorer..............it's inevitable unless a huge shakeup occurs. > > The scariest thing about it all is not that things are going to > change radically in the economics of the globe but more > that the ecology of the earth is going to suffer horribly because > the Chinese and Indians will rise with a commensorate > rise in the destruction of the ecosystem as the 1st World powers in > the past few hundred years. > > The largest destruction of the ecosytem has occured within the last > 50 years and is accelerating (declining airable land, declining > forests, declining > fish and animal populations, declining air quality, rising > temparatures, et. al.). > > It's 4th and 5th page news in American newspapers but China is on > the verge of a horrible ecological catastrophy. > They are running out of useable water at an alarming rate and their > rivers are very polluted on top of it due to unchecked growth. > > They are building gigantic coal manufacturing plants at the rate > of 1 a month , currently, which is causing terrible air pollution. > > Their destruction of the environement will rival the US's > destruction of the environment (although I should really say, the > Major Corporations > destruction of the environment) which is already unconscionable. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 12:29:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF7943C01C; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:29:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=yAv1dnHHAg8eLOf3HaqVi7kDysMz7HKEeONqx+81qJw=; b=Gkm++WzCf6ROcmvix5r9mFzlMlQxr6EBdlIrzLFW7mooklSHnE1FJZLVDdTcSdy0YXF/a/VovnO+tyX23EnvQ4EwktHArI1qhIAfV/oCyxRekO/Lhg7eD9Up1epQWJn9W0l6d9Dwp4OUefkWxJPpd0IuUaHZUWs1awG1IV7vY0w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=STBpAwJ6NtsevLxIsUJT3DSIHhgB2QouNa5MXrp6I5TyndcTkYmuFv3hRnlFnkl9xZoYne/O0pAuk1JF49W9OI7YXANmrxvCRVbZm+yrmi3E58An9gxD/bMgd0KPBoSSKBx5A6bJuO0+OO14ONzyFBQBwhfsV/95Xz3BU+/E8G8= In-Reply-To: <008c01c8041b$0ba0e120$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> References: <000c01c8037c$57c97e30$1001a8c0@succubus> <008c01c8041b$0ba0e120$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <94CE3330-7405-4D30-9E2F-5AC68A1EF958@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: OT: how to change reply adress in outl expr? Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 14:29:28 +0200 To: Loopers X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <1Muq9C.A.lxH.3gOAHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:29:43 +0000 (UTC) On 1 okt 2007, at 13.05, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > a fellow list member has told me that when replying to my posts, > the mail goes to me only instead of the whole list. > this explains all the "private" replies i have gotten. That may also be because you are so incredibly popular! > i use outlook express and chewed through all the little option > windows - can't find the thingie. > anybody out there who could help me with this? > > (in this case the reply setting comes in handy...) When Tilmann's letters arrive to my inbox the last header reads: "Reply-To: tilmann@dehnhard.com" Most other list post's last header read: "Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" So my guess is that you simply have to change the reply setting. As you seem to already know ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 12:43:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BEAD3C011; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=3HsD0R0n7PWdMMJ4D5XnlnysQOcxT2SLqj9sET52Zys=; b=Wjdj0JoyW/B/f7qwkSQMM00xTcOUTrC+QE8gG/3b6PJud4qMDBiIZimzpwsGrAj5C+XSeybnj4dbAGYG3yOYwKdxXrcb0qZsnFEdxqhIJ6UrOcfpH5GKMMJy74sA6LjNt6Q/vy8EyiUiHEQWh4fW1I6/FtYmdDOyQhhpgWMLqR4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=gssJfumxnJ3K6CIHgYmnXARmlOAT82IOrcP0Ley77Wrj+VI3Eu8c4bn9P25zU4HqiOBJUJSmN3q9gaLaKCGW4HPi00pomX4v/Z4M3CiVlRnGE5MjpSGRv3HfySMpoXcdbXKVc+XjCPrIb/p63ldPIpKRpqE7nO+BSidMynEUx8A= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <1F843ABD-DE5B-4839-97DF-C127D94D2D76@mac.com> References: <781B9BE8-AB77-4A99-9553-D500B21EA98B@mac.com> <47002DC4.1070609@adelphia.net> <7FDF604B-B6B0-4754-A15A-8B2D7662498C@gmail.com> <1F843ABD-DE5B-4839-97DF-C127D94D2D76@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7F29F327-1317-4264-B291-F47855105A92@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: looper in Logic (Re: Logic studio new version) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 14:43:30 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:43:38 +0000 (UTC) On 1 okt 2007, at 14.08, Paul Mimlitsch wrote: > Per; > What are you thoughts on using the delay (either software "pedal > board" or "rack mount" versions) in Logic as a simple "looper" - > ie: length of delay, feedback control etc.? Since you have Logic 8 you also have the Delay Designer, that offers quite long delay times. I think it's quite fun to loop with, if looping "delay style". Assign a MIDI expression pedal to feedback. Funny things happen you change the delay length with audio in the loop. I have not had enough time yet to have an opinion of using the pitch change within the Delay Designer plug-in, but have it on my list for "cool stuff to check out on a rainy day when no particular deadline is approaching". Something that I have done a lot though, is to loop with the Tape Delay plug-in. This one has a Freeze Loop button that you can assign to a MIDI pedal. The maximum loop length is rather short, I think one or two bars, but there's a nice tape style audio degradation parameter. You can also do a sort of "cutting in a short audio slice" into the loop by unfreezing the loop for a very short time. You can create some wild stuff by working two Tape Delay plug-ins set to different loop lengths. Other plug-ins of Logics that I think add quality to a live setup are the Autofilter, Compressor, Fuzz-Wha and the Ringshifter (ring modulator). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 12:52:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 047E43C038; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=Qj7ZDVkgpWDPawqWT1KeFzDR8fM/XySjtpcmAuXqRJ8=; b=V0dBa3hlwCi9Ksdzlh3XwrKZREKbUBQuQyHjAhE2aCP4cmfsdfMEuE6Uh1wcS1hKVrVryBIo3SYlpeUaVZvGTwq8mM1FoXP0WWK32YmAZSR+ShSjpcGq0xGJu3uMI/nfbmu9TincKrrdUR6z2TQ+S6NdCcywwlZ5DOS1kuOXze4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=hRrY1PehRr2VcjkYctCZSeK6Fzi3r2C0eVG5sCXrHThuIDiwDUAu1QDsIVUHe+6EiVAAePEt9zqeaOVbYYDQTypyvp3U6UU5tehucha/soARpJOhCGx6em2uKrQEVb5AvfMZI3wgl8iOp3koExwgP+4GD1vqsz3bg90qJEU/TyA= In-Reply-To: <534F4974-D305-4D32-B88B-A90A2C3DA04B@mac.com> References: <02df01c803f7$534782a0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <534F4974-D305-4D32-B88B-A90A2C3DA04B@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <835E17CE-7A26-4772-9526-C561A8CD00C1@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Off Topic: Anglofixilization Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 14:52:19 +0200 To: Loopers X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 12:52:28 +0000 (UTC) On 1 okt 2007, at 14.14, Chuck Silva wrote: > I hate to sound like a dumb ass but how do I contribute to these > ramblings 'off topic' and with out eating up bandwidth? I am a > neophyte and appreciate your help/ Send it to the off topic list at http://groups.google.com/group/loopers-delight-off-topic Doing so won't clog up the looping list digest and only those subscribed to the off topic list will get it. You may chose to send off topic posts to the regular list Loopers- Delight@loopers-delight.com, as many still do, but when you act like that you create problems for some people. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 14:28:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A16B23C01C; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 14:28:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 7908 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:28:27 UTC From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Stephen Scott Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 13:15:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: I need brighter LEDs Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <4700F2FF.29302.D12581@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <229264.69807.qm@web53006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <229264.69807.qm@web53006.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: <10Hai.A.mYD.LQQAHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 14:28:27 +0000 (UTC) On 30 Sep 2007 at 13:25, Stephen Scott wrote: > across the lovely garden, it never occurred that when the sun came > out, I wouldn't be able to see any of my LEDs on my RC20, Small bits of card in a U shape can be gaffered around the LED to increase visibility... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 14:29:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A8193C038; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 14:29:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 360 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:29:58 UTC Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 16:23:56 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200710011423.l91ENujq025538@post.webmailer.de> X-Authentication-Warning: ket.store: httpd set sender to rs@moinlabs.de using -f To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rs@moinlabs.de Subject: Re: Re: I need brighter LEDs X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 512675 / 192.109.190.88 X-RZG-MBID: 0AP3TDtljfgdCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-RZG-CLASS-ID: em07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 14:29:59 +0000 (UTC) Ian, you might have a look at Osram TOPLEDs (www.osram-os.com/). Very bright LED= =3D s (11lm/W) which also work well under adverse temperature conditions and of= =3D fer comparably low light ageing. Most probably, the driver circuits in the = =3D DL4 are standard components for which datasheets can be easily found to fin= =3D d out if it works (regarding power handling). Rainer ----- original Nachricht -------- The DL4 was OK as I could see the LEDs associated with each footswitch. I a= =3D sked an engineer about installing brighter ones and he said it depends upon= =3D the current consumption and whether the circuit can cope with it. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 14:42:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D60D13C038; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 14:42:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 607212226 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C80439.565A5F99" Subject: RE: i need different shoes Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:42:48 +0100 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A72055FFCF6@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <00cd01c803e4$b6a6ca30$0200a8c0@daw1> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: i need different shoes Thread-Index: AcgEOVYugEVkyQ0uQOeBQcyHb6pv0Q== References: <00cd01c803e4$b6a6ca30$0200a8c0@daw1> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2007 14:42:48.0978 (UTC) FILETIME=[566E5F20:01C80439] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 14:42:50 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C80439.565A5F99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> My mom has a friend who makes shoes... =20 http://www.thoseshoes.com/ =20 They are.. different. :-) << =20 ah, but does she make bear-feet? :-)* ------_=_NextPart_001_01C80439.565A5F99 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 >> My mom has a friend who makes = shoes…

 

http://www.thoseshoes.com/

 

They are.. = different.=20 J <<

 

ah, but does she make bear-feet?=20 :-) 

------_=_NextPart_001_01C80439.565A5F99-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 14:57:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F0EE3C03B; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 14:57:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3649 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:57:30 UTC Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 09:56:10 -0400 From: Dan Ash Subject: Free Repeater software update v2.4 (was RE: pre recorded talking between live played songs) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <4700FC7A.5040300@Verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 14:57:30 +0000 (UTC) > btw- did anyone else get another s/w update from electrix by email last > week? > > duncan. > Yes - I purchased the v2.01 update earlier this year and received v2.4 from Electrix on 9/26 as an email attachment but have not installed it yet. I have not been able to find out what changes have been implemented from searching the ElectrixPro.com web site nor from posts on the Yahoo Repeater group. Some bugs in the v2.x operating system were supposedly reported to Electrix, who actually seemed interested, and there there was one post that suggested that an issue with sync and low frequencies *might* have been fixed, but it's vague. I just wrote to the Electrix support folks requesting add'l info as the Electrix forum is undergoing 'routine maintenance'. I may bite the bullet and just install it, but I guess I hate trailblazing when it comes to software - I am forced to do it so often that I suppose I should embrace it. The v2.01 update had a few surprises, prompting me to completely reprogram my FCB1010. That said, I made some long-needed MIDI channel changes and that's a good thing... Anyway, I would really like to know what's in there - anybody? Dan Ash White Plains, NY From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 15:26:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C5EC3C034; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:26:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1792 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:26:49 UTC Message-ID: <47010ABB.6030909@hevanet.com> Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 07:56:59 -0700 From: David Auker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: i need different shoes References: <00cd01c803e4$b6a6ca30$0200a8c0@daw1> <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A72055FFCF6@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A72055FFCF6@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:26:50 +0000 (UTC) Goddard, Duncan wrote:

 >> My mom has a friend who makes shoes…

 

http://www.thoseshoes.com/

 

They are.. different. J <<

 

ah, but does she make bear-feet? :-) 

~~I paws for reflection on that one~~


David  ....A wooden shoe day in Portland, feet, paws, claws...



From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 17:34:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E54A93C037; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:34:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 652 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 17:34:58 UTC Message-ID: <20071001132401.P2V99.105337.root@fepweb09> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 10:24:01 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Recommended Cables - GK Guitar Synth Compatible Cables Cc: Qua Veda In-Reply-To: <004501c803a4$30b46df0$921d49d0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:34:58 +0000 (UTC) Qua, Yeah, I took your advice and asked him. He responded quickly. But he said "No" he can't help me. Thanks for trying though. I'm bummed that 10 feet seems to be the shortest cable I can get for these = things. Cheers, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn www.tedkillian.com "Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?p= layListId=3D6378076=20 Also check out the BEMF 1 CDs at: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimenta= l/cd.htm http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 http://www.guitarplayer.com/story.asp?storyCode=3D18131 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ---- Qua Veda wrote:=20 > Hi Ted, >=20 > Not sure if he can get the parts for the GK cables, but I've ordered a lo= t > of high quality custom cables at good prices over the years from > audiocableguy.com. >=20 > You can email him at sales@audiocableguy.com. =20 >=20 > -Qua =20 >=20 > =20 >=20 > From: tEd R KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net]=20 > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 1:46 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: OT: Recommended Cables - GK Guitar Synth Compatible Cables >=20 > =20 >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > While some of us are on the topic of MIDI cables already, I have a cable > question for the group. >=20 > Almost all of y guitars are equipped with Roland GK hex pickups. >=20 > Of course the cables for connecting such guitars to their synth boxes are > available from any number of retailers in lengths of 10 feet, 15 feet and= 30 > feet. >=20 > My question: >=20 > DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHERE TO GET GK 13-PIN COMPATIBLE CABLES IN EVEN SHORTE= R > LENGTHS? >=20 > I have a recently acquired box (a GKP-4) that acts as a signal splitter s= o > that my GK-equipped guitars can drive more than one "brain" (GR synth-bas= ed > or VG COSM-based).=20 >=20 > I hate the idea of having no other choice than to connect items that sit = on > the floor only inches apart with a cable that is 10' long (or more). >=20 > Spaghetti is meant for Italian pasta on a plate, not instrument floor cab= les > underfoot. >=20 > Besides shorter cable lengths sound better. >=20 > If I could find a source for Gk 13-pin cables in lengths of 3' or shorter= I > would be eternally grateful. >=20 > Thanks! >=20 >=20 > tEd R KiLLiAn >=20 > www.tedkillian.com >=20 > Different is not always better, but better is always different"=20 >=20 > Flux Aeterna:=20 > http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=3D= 63780 > 76=20 >=20 > Also check out the 1st set of BEMF (Boise Experimental Music Festival) CD= s > at:=20 > http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/cd.htm=20 >=20 > http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html=20 > http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian=20 > http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html=20 > http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina=20 > http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073=20 > http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314=20 > http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193=20 > http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&i= d=3D121 > 1970 > 00042=20 >=20 > Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes,=20 > BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster,=20 > AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream,=20 > RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks,=20 > and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So???=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 18:42:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10FD63C036; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 18:42:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 18:42:53 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20071001132401.P2V99.105337.root@fepweb09> References: <20071001132401.P2V99.105337.root@fepweb09> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 13:35:54 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: RE: Recommended Cables - GK Guitar Synth Compatible Cables Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <3GESU.A.bSC.u-TAHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 18:42:54 +0000 (UTC) At 10:24 AM -0700 10/1/07, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: > > DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHERE TO GET GK 13-PIN COMPATIBLE CABLES IN EVEN SHORTE= R > LENGTHS? Ted, Check Ebay (<*ducking*> yes, i'm serious).=20 There's a seller over there who occasionally=20 offers these up. I think their User ID is=20 4wells. Don't worry, they're not shady or=20 anything (I've bought these things from them in=20 the past). It turns out that Roland *does* make 13-pin=20 cables in a smaller size (like somewhere around 3=20 or 5 feet, IIRC). But, unfortunately, Roland=20 doesn't seem to sell these direct. They come=20 bundled as extra cables with devices like the=20 US-20 GK Unit Selector. That seller to which I was referring has somehow=20 gotten a stash of these things (don't know if=20 he's unbundling them from the US-20's or what).=20 Every once in a while they come up; you've just=20 got to keep a watch out, or try contacting him=20 directly. Oh yeah, I just found the URL to one of his=20 completed (sorry!) auctions for a 4-foot GK=20 cable:=20 http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLAND-4-FOOT-GK-CABLE-FOR-GUITAR-SYNTH-AND-VG88_W0QQite= mZ120160649039QQihZ002QQcategoryZ47075QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem You might also look around to see if Roland lists=20 these as a replacement part, and have your bench=20 tech or authorized service center order them.=20 They do exist, they're just not very easy to find. Just a couple of leads, but I hope it helps a little. --m. -- _____ "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 19:20:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B688F3C03B; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 19:20:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 555 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 19:20:50 UTC X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,217,1188792000"; d="scan'208";a="78297552" X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj0KAJ3jAEdKgAAT/2dsb2JhbACBWWI2 Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:11:34 -0500 From: mwsmart@insightbb.com Subject: Re: RE: Recommended Cables - GK Guitar Synth Compatible Cables In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_x2Vy9ra3vPW0I6P7gqANiw)" Content-language: en X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal References: <20071001132401.P2V99.105337.root@fepweb09> Resent-Message-ID: <1yrPeD.A.2oD.SiUAHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 19:20:50 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_x2Vy9ra3vPW0I6P7gqANiw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline If you=27re inclined to soldering=2C you can get the male 13-pin connect= ors from Digi-Key=3A http=3A//search=2Edigikey=2Ecom/scripts/DkSearch/dksus=2Edll=3FDetail=3F= name=3DCP-1013-ND You could take a long cable=2C cut it=2C and put new connectors on the e= xposed ends=2E Mark Smart http=3A//www=2Emarksmart=2Enet ----- Original Message ----- From=3A Mech =3Cmech=40m3ch=2Enet=3E Date=3A Monday=2C October 1=2C 2007 13=3A43 Subject=3A RE=3A Recommended Cables - GK Guitar Synth Compatible Cables To=3A Loopers-Delight=40loopers-delight=2Ecom =3E At 10=3A24 AM -0700 10/1/07=2C tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote=3A =3E =3E =3E =3E DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHERE TO GET GK 13-PIN COMPATIBLE = =3E CABLES IN EVEN SHORTER =3E =3E LENGTHS=3F =3E = =3E Ted=2C =3E = =3E Check Ebay (=3C*ducking*=3E yes=2C i=27m serious)=2E = =3E There=27s a seller over there who occasionally = =3E offers these up=2E I think their User ID is = =3E 4wells=2E Don=27t worry=2C they=27re not shady or = =3E anything (I=27ve bought these things from them in = =3E the past)=2E =3E = =3E It turns out that Roland *does* make 13-pin = =3E cables in a smaller size (like somewhere around 3 = =3E or 5 feet=2C IIRC)=2E But=2C unfortunately=2C Roland = =3E doesn=27t seem to sell these direct=2E They come = =3E bundled as extra cables with devices like the = =3E US-20 GK Unit Selector=2E =3E = =3E That seller to which I was referring has somehow = =3E gotten a stash of these things (don=27t know if = =3E he=27s unbundling them from the US-20=27s or what)=2E = =3E Every once in a while they come up=3B you=27ve just = =3E got to keep a watch out=2C or try contacting him = =3E directly=2E =3E = =3E Oh yeah=2C I just found the URL to one of his = =3E completed (sorry!) auctions for a 4-foot GK = =3E cable=3A = =3E http=3A//cgi=2Eebay=2Ecom/ROLAND-4-FOOT-GK-CABLE-FOR-GUITAR-SYNTH-AN= D- =3E VG88=5FW0QQitemZ120160649039QQihZ002QQcategoryZ47075QQssPageNameZWDV= WQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem =3E You might also look around to see if Roland lists = =3E these as a replacement part=2C and have your bench = =3E tech or authorized service center order them=2E = =3E They do exist=2C they=27re just not very easy to find=2E =3E = =3E Just a couple of leads=2C but I hope it helps a little=2E =3E = =3E --m=2E =3E -- = =3E =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F =3E =22the wind in my heart=3B the dust in my head=2E=2E=2E=2E=22 =3E --Boundary_(ID_x2Vy9ra3vPW0I6P7gqANiw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline =3CDIV=3EIf you=27re inclined to soldering=2C you can get the male 13-pi= n connectors from Digi-Key=3A=3C/DIV=3E =3CDIV=3E=26nbsp=3B=3C/DIV=3E =3CDIV=3E=3CA href=3D=22http=3A//search=2Edigikey=2Ecom/scripts/DkSearch= /dksus=2Edll=3FDetail=3Fname=3DCP-1013-ND=22=3Ehttp=3A//search=2Edigikey= =2Ecom/scripts/DkSearch/dksus=2Edll=3FDetail=3Fname=3DCP-1013-ND=3C/A=3E= =3C/DIV=3E =3CDIV=3E=26nbsp=3B=3C/DIV=3E =3CDIV=3EYou could take a long cable=2C cut it=2C and put new connectors= on the exposed ends=2E=3C/DIV=3E =3CDIV=3E=26nbsp=3B=3C/DIV=3E =3CDIV=3EMark Smart=3C/DIV=3E =3CDIV=3E=3CA href=3D=22http=3A//www=2Emarksmart=2Enet=22=3Ehttp=3A//www= =2Emarksmart=2Enet=3C/A=3E=3CBR=3E=3CBR=3E----- Original Message -----=3C= BR=3EFrom=3A Mech =26lt=3Bmech=40m3ch=2Enet=26gt=3B=3CBR=3EDate=3A Monda= y=2C October 1=2C 2007 13=3A43=3CBR=3ESubject=3A RE=3A Recommended Cable= s - GK Guitar Synth Compatible Cables=3CBR=3ETo=3A Loopers-Delight=40loo= pers-delight=2Ecom=3CBR=3E=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B At 10=3A24 AM -0700 10/1/07=2C= tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote=3A=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt= =3B=26nbsp=3B DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHERE TO GET GK 13-PIN COMPATIBLE =3CBR=3E= =26gt=3B CABLES IN EVEN SHORTER=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =26gt=3B=26nbsp=3B LENGT= HS=3F=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B Ted=2C=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26= gt=3B Check Ebay (=26lt=3B*ducking*=26gt=3B yes=2C i=27m serious)=2E =3C= BR=3E=26gt=3B There=27s a seller over there who occasionally =3CBR=3E=26= gt=3B offers these up=2E=26nbsp=3B I think their User ID is =3CBR=3E=26g= t=3B 4wells=2E=26nbsp=3B Don=27t worry=2C they=27re not shady or =3CBR=3E= =26gt=3B anything (I=27ve bought these things from them in =3CBR=3E=26gt= =3B the past)=2E=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B It turns out that Rola= nd *does* make 13-pin =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B cables in a smaller size (like so= mewhere around 3 =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B or 5 feet=2C IIRC)=2E=26nbsp=3B But=2C= unfortunately=2C Roland =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B doesn=27t seem to sell these d= irect=2E=26nbsp=3B They come =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B bundled as extra cables wi= th devices like the =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B US-20 GK Unit Selector=2E=3CBR=3E=26= gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B That seller to which I was referring has somehow = =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B gotten a stash of these things (don=27t know if =3CBR=3E= =26gt=3B he=27s unbundling them from the US-20=27s or what)=2E =3CBR=3E=26= gt=3B Every once in a while they come up=3B you=27ve just =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B= got to keep a watch out=2C or try contacting him =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B direc= tly=2E=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B Oh yeah=2C I just found the URL = to one of his =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B completed (sorry!) auctions for a 4-foot = GK =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B cable=3A =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B http=3A//cgi=2Eebay=2Ecom/= ROLAND-4-FOOT-GK-CABLE-FOR-GUITAR-SYNTH-AND-=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B VG88=5FW0QQ= itemZ120160649039QQihZ002QQcategoryZ47075QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVi= ewItem=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B You might also look around to see if Roland lists= =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B these as a replacement part=2C and have your bench =3C= BR=3E=26gt=3B tech or authorized service center order them=2E =3CBR=3E=26= gt=3B They do exist=2C they=27re just not very easy to find=2E=3CBR=3E=26= gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B Just a couple of leads=2C but I hope it helps a l= ittle=2E=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B --m=2E=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B -- =3CB= R=3E=26gt=3B =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =22the wind in my heart=3B = the dust in my head=2E=2E=2E=2E=22=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =3C/DIV=3E --Boundary_(ID_x2Vy9ra3vPW0I6P7gqANiw)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 20:36:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A93E13C040; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 20:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3665 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:36:43 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=xC05Dw9yZp7vPyMpBOaRoJ8Thvtxw0SJfCfVe8p4h70=; b=ax+L9wohapbYSLmYtQH365Nd3Op+DdHME/EXiTauh8jKfr2Kui4L4mJub0U9+H77U9ciolSyPrOPWC0ioi88SjTg5CSs3j9iOyNGJKR/UDaAW6WvxUm3T7hH23wrpmDqodLiMRhuSoneSF3D/D1eWQlGQI4oPYnqaslmF6rzH/w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=X+rzge3xZnILyf4yuqyXlyYkWQRy2+LOqe3O/U2QFOKcNP0sBR6ZbTNd7EIxg4nnoQCG/jXTid5KhzEdY8Zf4DJAlpHxmFGkstS3WJ4a0kY7cBH79AHpPpHbbiemgo/Ad3XN+ufxw+uDhcAvzCgoHmVBlhPLhbKONyri30Oq7Tc= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:35:36 -0400 From: "radio radio" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loop Survey - Summary In-Reply-To: <000c01c8037c$57c97e30$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9548_25624074.1191267336665" References: <000c01c8037c$57c97e30$1001a8c0@succubus> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 20:36:43 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_9548_25624074.1191267336665 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Great survey Rainer! That's a lot of work, so it must have been a labor of love...It also got me thinking - I have very little to add to discussions on this listserv because I am so new to looping (less than 1 year), and I have received some helpful feedback on basic questions in the past. The looping survey caught my eye because I actually spend a lot of time running statistical analyses of data, sometimes involving surveys like this one, and so if people would be interested (and Rainer doesn't want to do it and and sent me the raw data), I could look into questions like Rainer's "Is age associated with preference for hardware vs. software," and whatever other questions that people are curious about, and using the same sorts of analyses that researchers use when they want to know whether something looks like a difference but could actually be attributable to chance alone (versus, for example, to age or something else), or they want to know "how much" of a difference there is in some meaningful metric (although 'meaningful' again is subjective and would likely involve to some extent more 'statistics'). It would be relatively simple enough on my end, but could definitely be more technical than most people who don't typically deal in statistics would care about, even if I explained it in non-statistical terms. So, if anyone cares enough, let me know. Otherwise, I will spare the glazed eyes that I usually get when I talk about statistical research with people who aren't used to it. Eben On 9/30/07, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > first of all, thanks to all who took my online survey regarding looping > and > loopers. With 89 answers, at least some of the answers will bear some > statistical relevance. Please find below some of the results summarized. > All > values are percentages of the total answers. In the "looper rating" > category, the results are averaged to a percentage value as well (with > ++=100%, +=75% and so on up to --=0%). Some rounding errors may result in > percentages not adding up exactly up to 100%. In some questions, multiple > answers were possible so the total percentage exceeds 100%. Some people > skipped some questions, so the total result may also below 100%. > No analysis regarding relationship of the answers has been done (e.g. are > the older people more oriented towards hardware). > Indexes in parentheses indicate a ranking. For the ranking of the loopers, > only loopers which got at least 10% of the available answers were > considered. > > Again, thanks to all who participated - and on with the results! > > Rainer > > 1. SUMMARY: > Regarding demographics, the biggest groups are age 35-50 (55%) and more > than > ten years of looping experience (42%). > The biggest use for an ensemble setting is in solo performances by a huge > margin (97%). The most important applications for looping are layering > different parts from the same instrument (85%) and structuring > improvisations (72%). The second item makes sense, considering that 79% > use > looping for freely improvised material - only 21% use it in entirely > composed material. > For the majority of 52%, looping is used in most of their current work. > > 80% of the loopers prefer hardware loopers over software loopers. As for > explaining a looper to someone with basic audio tech understanding, the > majority would describe it as some kind of delay (36%), followed by the > sampler analogy (30%) and a completely different explanation (27%). > (Question: what are these "other explanations?") > > The statistics regarding use and ranking of loopers have been done > separately for SW and HW. Yet comparing both results, the most-used > software > looper would rank place 5 in a total ranking of the most-used loopers. > > The HW top3 usage-wise are the EDP (54%), followed by the DL4 (42%) and > the > Repeater (40%). Ranking-wise, the best ranking for a hardware looper goes > to > the Looperlative (94%! - hats off, bob!), followed by the EDP (89%) and > with > a little more distance the Repeater (79%). > > In the software domain, the top3 used looper software packages are a draw > between Mobius and Ableton Live (31%), followed by SooperLooper (17%). > Rating-wise, it's Mobius with 90% in the front, followed by MAX/MSP (88%) > and AugustusLoop (83%). > > > 2. DEMOGRAPHICS: > Age Categories: > <20 : 0% > 20-35 : 19% > 35-50 : 55% > >50 : 26% > > Loop Experience (years): > <1 : 5% > 1-3 : 15% > 3-5 : 19% > 5-10 : 20% > >10 : 42% > > 3. ENSEMBLE SETTINGS/USE OF LOOPING: > Ensemble Setting: > solo : 97% > ensemble : 51% > process others : 16% > > Use of looping: > layer same instrument : 85% > layer different instr. : 52% > sound design : 55% > process others : 15% > structure improvisation : 72% > structure noise sources : 58% > > Improvisation vs. Composition: > free improvisation : 79% > composed w/ improv part : 54% > entirely composed : 21% > > How often do you loop: > all of current work : 38% > most of current work : 52% > only occasionaly : 9% > > 4. LOOPER TECHNOLOGY: > Eplanation of a Looper: > delay : 36% > sampler : 30% > DAW : 6% > other : 27% > > Preference hardware vs software: > hardware : 80% > software : 18% > > 5. HARDWARE LOOPERS: > Usage of HW Loopers: > EDP : 54% > Repeater : 40% > Looperlative : 10% > Boomerang : 21% > Lexicon Jamman : 30% > Lexicon Vortex : 36% > Headrush : 17% > 2290 : 6% > DL4 : 42% > Boss RC series : 30% > Boss DD20 : 21% > Digitech Jamman : 10% > Digitech RDS/PDS : 17% > EH 2880 : 3% > Frippertronics : 12% > Eventides : 7% > Tape Delay : 19% > > Rating of HW Loopers: > EDP : 89% > Repeater : 79% > Looperlative : 94% > Boomerang : 63% > Lexicon Jamman : 70% > Lexicon Vortex : 66% > Headrush : 62% > 2290 : 50% > DL4 : 70% > Boss RC series : 72% > Boss DD20 : 64% > Digitech Jamman : 56% > Digitech RDS/PDS : 65% > EH 2880 : 67% > Frippertronics : 75% > Eventides : 79% > Tape Delay : 66% > > 6. SOFTWARE LOOPERS: > Usage of SW Loopers: > Ableton Live : 31% > PSP delays : 11% > Mobius : 31% > AugustusLoop : 15% > SooperLooper : 17% > LloopyLlama : 11% > Radical : 4% > MAX/MSP : 12% > > Rating of SW Loopers: > Ableton Live : 64% > PSP delays : 48% > Mobius : 90% > AugustusLoop : 83% > SooperLooper : 65% > LloopyLlama : 58% > Radical : 50% > MAX/MSP : 88% > > ------=_Part_9548_25624074.1191267336665 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Great survey Rainer! That's a lot of work, so it must have been a = labor of love...It also got me thinking - I have very little to add to disc= ussions on this listserv because I am so new to looping (less than 1 year),= and I have received some helpful feedback on basic questions in the past. = The looping survey caught my eye because I actually spend a lot of time run= ning statistical analyses of data, sometimes involving surveys like this on= e, and so if people would be interested (and Rainer doesn't want to do = it and and sent me the raw data), I could look into questions like Rainer&#= 39;s "Is age associated with preference for hardware vs. software,&quo= t; and whatever other questions that people are curious about, and using th= e same sorts of analyses that researchers use when they want to know whethe= r something looks like a difference but could actually be attributable to c= hance alone (versus, for example, to age or something else), or they w= ant to know "how much" of a difference there is in some meaningfu= l metric (although 'meaningful' again is subjective and would likel= y involve to some extent more 'statistics'). It would be relatively= simple enough on my end, but could definitely be more technical than most = people who don't typically deal in statistics would care about, even if= I explained it in non-statistical terms. So, if anyone cares enough, let m= e know. Otherwise, I will spare the glazed eyes that I usually get when I t= alk about statistical research with people who aren't used to it.=20

Eben

 
On 9/30/07, = Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill <rs@moinlabs.de> wrote:
Hi everyone,

first of all= , thanks to all who took my online survey regarding looping and
loopers.= With 89 answers, at least some of the answers will bear some
statistical relevance. Please find below some of the results summarized= . All
values are percentages of the total answers. In the "looper r= ating"
category, the results are averaged to a percentage value as = well (with
++=3D100%, +=3D75% and so on up to --=3D0%). Some rounding errors may r= esult in
percentages not adding up exactly up to 100%. In some questions= , multiple
answers were possible so the total percentage exceeds 100%. S= ome people
skipped some questions, so the total result may also below 100%.
No = analysis regarding relationship of the answers has been done (e.g. are
t= he older people more oriented towards hardware).
Indexes in parentheses = indicate a ranking. For the ranking of the loopers,
only loopers which got at least 10% of the available answers were
co= nsidered.

Again, thanks to all who participated - and on with the re= sults!

       Rainer

1. SUMMARY= :
Regarding demographics, the biggest groups are age 35-50 (55%) and mor= e than
ten years of looping experience (42%).
The biggest use for an ensemb= le setting is in solo performances by a huge
margin (97%). The most impo= rtant applications for looping are layering
different parts from the sam= e instrument (85%) and structuring
improvisations (72%). The second item makes sense, considering that 79%= use
looping for freely improvised material - only 21% use it in entirel= y
composed material.
For the majority of 52%, looping is used in most= of their current work.

80% of the loopers prefer hardware loopers over software loopers. A= s for
explaining a looper to someone with basic audio tech understanding= , the
majority would describe it as some kind of delay (36%), followed b= y the
sampler analogy (30%) and a completely different explanation (27%).
= (Question: what are these "other explanations?")

The stati= stics regarding use and ranking of loopers have been done
separately for= SW and HW. Yet comparing both results, the most-used software
looper would rank place 5 in a total ranking of the most-used loopers.<= br>
The HW top3 usage-wise are the EDP (54%), followed by the DL4 (42%) = and the
Repeater (40%). Ranking-wise, the best ranking for a hardware lo= oper goes to
the Looperlative (94%! - hats off, bob!), followed by the EDP (89%) and= with
a little more distance the Repeater (79%).

In the software = domain, the top3 used looper software packages are a draw
between Mobius= and Ableton Live (31%), followed by SooperLooper (17%).
Rating-wise, it's Mobius with 90% in the front, followed by MAX/MSP= (88%)
and AugustusLoop (83%).


2. DEMOGRAPHICS:
Age Catego= ries:
       <20    = ; : 0%
       20-35 : 19%
  &= nbsp;    35-50 : 55%
       >50     : 2= 6%

Loop Experience (years):
       = <1      : 5%
    &n= bsp;  1-3     : 15%
    &nb= sp;  3-5     : 19%
    &nbs= p;  5-10    : 20%
     = ;  >10     : 42%

3. ENSEMBLE SETTINGS/US= E OF LOOPING:
Ensemble Setting:
       solo &nb= sp;            =       : 97%
     =   ensemble          =       : 51%
     =   process others  : 16%

Use of looping:
 &nbs= p;     layer same instrument   : 85%
 = ;      layer different instr.  : 52%
       sound design   &nbs= p;        : 55%
  &nbs= p;    process others      &nbs= p;   : 15%
       structure= improvisation : 72%
       structure nois= e sources : 58%

Improvisation vs. Composition:
   =     free improvisation      : = 79%
       composed w/ improv part : 54%
&= nbsp;      entirely composed   &nbs= p;           : 21%
How often do you loop:
       all of curr= ent work     : 38%
     &nb= sp; most of current work    : 52%
   =     only occasionaly      &nbs= p;         : 9%

4. LOOPER TECHNOLOGY:
Eplanation of a Looper:
  &nb= sp;    delay        =    : 36%
       sampler : 30%       DAW     &nbs= p;       : 6%
    &nbs= p;  other           = : 27%

Preference hardware vs software:
    &n= bsp;  hardware        : 80%
       software    &n= bsp;   : 18%

5. HARDWARE LOOPERS:
Usage of HW Loop= ers:
       EDP    &nb= sp;            =     : 54%
       Repeater&n= bsp;            = ;   : 40%
       Looperlati= ve    : 10%
       Boo= merang           &nb= sp;   : 21%
       Lexicon Jamman  : 30%       Lexicon Vortex  : 36%
&n= bsp;      Headrush     &n= bsp;          : 17%
&n= bsp;      2290      =             &nb= sp; : 6%
       DL4   =             &nb= sp;     : 42%
       B= oss RC series  : 30%
       Boss= DD20           &nbs= p;   : 21%
       Digitech Jamman : 10%
 &nb= sp;     Digitech RDS/PDS     &= nbsp;  : 17%
       EH 2880 = ;        : 3%
    = ;   Frippertronics  : 12%
    &n= bsp;  Eventides         &= nbsp;     : 7%
       = Tape Delay           = ;   : 19%

Rating of HW Loopers:
       EDP &nbs= p;            &= nbsp;      : 89%
     =   Repeater          =       : 79%
     =   Looperlative    : 94%
    = ;   Boomerang        &nbs= p;      : 63%
     &nb= sp; Lexicon Jamman  : 70%
      = Lexicon Vortex  : 66%
       Headrush    &n= bsp;           : 62%=
       2290     =             &nb= sp;  : 50%
       DL4  = ;            &n= bsp;      : 70%
     &= nbsp; Boss RC series  : 72%
     &nbs= p; Boss DD20          &nb= sp;    : 64%
       Digitec= h Jamman : 56%
       Digitech RDS/PDS   =      : 65%
      = EH 2880         : 67%
 &nb= sp;     Frippertronics  : 75%
  =      Eventides       = ;        : 79%
   &nbs= p;   Tape Delay        &n= bsp;     : 66%

6. SOFTWARE LOOPERS:
Usag= e of SW Loopers:
       Ableton Live   &nbs= p;: 31%
       PSP delays   = ;           : 11%       Mobius     &= nbsp;    : 31%
       = AugustusLoop    : 15%
     =   SooperLooper    : 17%
    = ;   LloopyLlama        &n= bsp;    : 11%
       Radica= l         : 4%
       MAX/MSP    &nb= sp;    : 12%

Rating of SW Loopers:
  &nb= sp;    Ableton Live    : 64%
 &n= bsp;     PSP delays      =         : 48%
   =     Mobius        &n= bsp; : 90%
       AugustusLoop &= nbsp;  : 83%
       SooperLooper=     : 65%
       LloopyLlama    = ;         : 58%
  &nbs= p;    Radical        = ; : 50%
       MAX/MSP   &n= bsp;     : 88%


------=_Part_9548_25624074.1191267336665-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 20:44:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C779C3C03E; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 20:44:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 628 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:44:07 UTC X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,217,1188802800"; d="scan'208,217";a="237194527" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C8046A.2A8B335F" Subject: OT: Found sounds, contact mic recommendation Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 13:32:20 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20070930234256.9461E3C02D@arsenic.violacea.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: OT: Found sounds, contact mic recommendation Thread-Index: AcgDu613OxRRV0RiQYeE/VIif+FF1wArf41w References: <20070930234256.9461E3C02D@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "Veda, Qua" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2007 20:32:20.0623 (UTC) FILETIME=[2A8171F0:01C8046A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 20:44:07 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8046A.2A8B335F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd like to record some found sounds by mic'ing a string connected to various items. The string would have some tension in it. I'm imagining sandwiching the string between a contact mic and a hard object , or maybe between two contact mics. Any recommendations of what kind of mic could be used to do this? =20 In the meantime, here is a fun musical piece using recordings of gargling and splashing in a bath tub http://www.waterdogstudio.com/bowl/ -Qua ------_=_NextPart_001_01C8046A.2A8B335F Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OT: Found sounds, contact mic recommendation

I'd like to record = some found sounds by mic'ing a string connected to various = items.   The string would have some tension in it.   = I'm imagining sandwiching the string between a contact mic and a hard = object , or maybe between two contact mics.

Any recommendations = of what kind of mic could be used to do this? 

In the meantime, here = is a fun musical piece using recordings of gargling and splashing in a = bath tub
http://www.waterdogstudio.com/bowl/

-Qua

------_=_NextPart_001_01C8046A.2A8B335F-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 20:45:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA0563C04E; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 20:45:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Loop Survey - Summary Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 22:45:46 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <003d01c8046c$0acd39a0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcgEasd9HDXQWEm2RfiyQokLwb9PKwAAOhOQ X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OICI8esj/w== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 20:45:22 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, Eben, for your generous offer. The main problem, however, is that the basic (free) surveys on surveymonkey don't offer you the possibility to download the raw data in one go - you would have to access all single 89 surveys and enter the data into a spreadsheet or database by hand. If you REALLY want to do that - be my guest as the say. Contact me off-list, and I could forward you my login data so you can do that sysyphus job by hand. ;) Rainer >my eye because I actually spend a lot of time running statistical analyses of data, sometimes involving >surveys like this one, and so if people would be interested (and Rainer doesn't want to do it and and sent me >the raw data), I could look into questions like Rainer's "Is age associated with preference for hardware vs. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 20:49:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66AD73C046; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 20:49:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Loop Survey - Summary - post scriptum to eben Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 22:49:41 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <004101c8046c$9726ca60$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcgEasd9HDXQWEm2RfiyQokLwb9PKwAAW2sw X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OICI8esj/w== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: <0SJwHD.A.JnG.N1VAHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 20:49:17 +0000 (UTC) btw, there's one analysis you could do even without having the raw data: with the data you already have from my published info regarding looping experiences in the bins, could you do an analaysis how many people per year have been coming in during the last 25 years to give us this results. Obviously, this is an under-determined set of equations, but what is it? Obviously, only a few people in the first years, then two peaks in the middle and since a decline? Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 21:23:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C69163C04F; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 21:23:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1648 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 21:23:00 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=kfppkIaUCjP+GuRMmWkzPBhJKgRJn+tAnQxwa8nQcjI=; b=P9tXsG36kkF0C9pCQfywzpaqXmHmKR9j2d2caUFKLMvMa6+tR9ixAlNcX5sTnd5w77bZk0O8dNZlf7YLCa6bBjSjNy0egBdAgv1pWf2hBUC/rYeSZLwBLZ7VJwoaoOBnVVYudznSJXek03o76m/RpGvMMOzAj/1lCnJAJpPWhl8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jo/jggzfksvWO2ORg4Flbb3yom4wfeIlSJtZKaT8WnR4jN03uUi3phnGK1zXOrUY8qJZUSdeGHVTtPJhaZcn9EdFrkPNtM4MFL/nIkChpL9ssMBShpEEn2cZgQjZ5jA7segTzXlp2aen9mRkcAC6Q16CdyYhDFyMyhYGEmyCWeI= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 16:55:31 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Found sounds, contact mic recommendation In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070930234256.9461E3C02D@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <3rk-3D.A.60H.0UWAHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 21:23:00 +0000 (UTC) you can make your own contact mic... http://home.earthlink.net/~erinys/contactmic.html Or, maybe get one of those clip on lapel mics and clip it to the string. That might pick up the vibrations and give you some interesting sounds. http://www.radioshack.com/sm-hands-free-tie-clip-omnidirectional-electret--pi-2102927.html Tony On 10/1/07, Veda, Qua wrote: > > > > I'd like to record some found sounds by mic'ing a string connected to > various items. The string would have some tension in it. I'm imagining > sandwiching the string between a contact mic and a hard object , or maybe > between two contact mics. > > Any recommendations of what kind of mic could be used to do this? > > In the meantime, here is a fun musical piece using recordings of gargling > and splashing in a bath tub > http://www.waterdogstudio.com/bowl/ > > -Qua -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 22:07:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A7343C038; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 22:07:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20071001180719.2QTUG.114291.root@fepweb03> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 18:07:19 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RE: Recommended Cables - GK Guitar Synth Compatible Cables Cc: mwsmart@insightbb.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 22:07:20 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the link. I'll look into it. Onward and upward! tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?p= layListId=3D6378076=20 Also check out the BEMF 1 CDs at: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimenta= l/cd.htm http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 http://www.guitarplayer.com/story.asp?storyCode=3D18131 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ---- mwsmart@insightbb.com wrote:=20 > If you're inclined to soldering, you can get the male 13-pin connectors f= rom Digi-Key: >=20 > http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail?name=3DCP-101= 3-ND >=20 > You could take a long cable, cut it, and put new connectors on the expose= d ends. >=20 > Mark Smart > http://www.marksmart.net >=20 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mech > Date: Monday, October 1, 2007 13:43 > Subject: RE: Recommended Cables - GK Guitar Synth Compatible Cables > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > > At 10:24 AM -0700 10/1/07, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn wrote: > > > > > > DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHERE TO GET GK 13-PIN COMPATIBLE=20 > > CABLES IN EVEN SHORTER > > > LENGTHS? > >=20 > > Ted, > >=20 > > Check Ebay (<*ducking*> yes, i'm serious).=20 > > There's a seller over there who occasionally=20 > > offers these up. I think their User ID is=20 > > 4wells. Don't worry, they're not shady or=20 > > anything (I've bought these things from them in=20 > > the past). > >=20 > > It turns out that Roland *does* make 13-pin=20 > > cables in a smaller size (like somewhere around 3=20 > > or 5 feet, IIRC). But, unfortunately, Roland=20 > > doesn't seem to sell these direct. They come=20 > > bundled as extra cables with devices like the=20 > > US-20 GK Unit Selector. > >=20 > > That seller to which I was referring has somehow=20 > > gotten a stash of these things (don't know if=20 > > he's unbundling them from the US-20's or what).=20 > > Every once in a while they come up; you've just=20 > > got to keep a watch out, or try contacting him=20 > > directly. > >=20 > > Oh yeah, I just found the URL to one of his=20 > > completed (sorry!) auctions for a 4-foot GK=20 > > cable:=20 > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLAND-4-FOOT-GK-CABLE-FOR-GUITAR-SYNTH-AND- > > VG88_W0QQitemZ120160649039QQihZ002QQcategoryZ47075QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrd= Z1QQcmdZViewItem > > You might also look around to see if Roland lists=20 > > these as a replacement part, and have your bench=20 > > tech or authorized service center order them.=20 > > They do exist, they're just not very easy to find. > >=20 > > Just a couple of leads, but I hope it helps a little. > >=20 > > --m. > > --=20 > > _____ > > "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 22:09:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09D743C047; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 22:09:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20071001180942.1VC0U.114340.root@fepweb03> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 15:09:42 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Recommended Cables - GK Guitar Synth Compatible Cables Cc: Mech In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 22:09:42 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, I'll follow this up. If he put's any more online I'll hit him up for a couple. Muchas gracias! tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?p= layListId=3D6378076=20 Also check out the BEMF 1 CDs at: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimenta= l/cd.htm http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 http://www.guitarplayer.com/story.asp?storyCode=3D18131 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ---- Mech wrote:=20 > At 10:24 AM -0700 10/1/07, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn wrote: > > > > DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHERE TO GET GK 13-PIN COMPATIBLE CABLES IN EVEN SHO= RTER > > LENGTHS? >=20 > Ted, >=20 > Check Ebay (<*ducking*> yes, i'm serious).=20 > There's a seller over there who occasionally=20 > offers these up. I think their User ID is=20 > 4wells. Don't worry, they're not shady or=20 > anything (I've bought these things from them in=20 > the past). >=20 > It turns out that Roland *does* make 13-pin=20 > cables in a smaller size (like somewhere around 3=20 > or 5 feet, IIRC). But, unfortunately, Roland=20 > doesn't seem to sell these direct. They come=20 > bundled as extra cables with devices like the=20 > US-20 GK Unit Selector. >=20 > That seller to which I was referring has somehow=20 > gotten a stash of these things (don't know if=20 > he's unbundling them from the US-20's or what).=20 > Every once in a while they come up; you've just=20 > got to keep a watch out, or try contacting him=20 > directly. >=20 > Oh yeah, I just found the URL to one of his=20 > completed (sorry!) auctions for a 4-foot GK=20 > cable:=20 > http://cgi.ebay.com/ROLAND-4-FOOT-GK-CABLE-FOR-GUITAR-SYNTH-AND-VG88_W0QQ= itemZ120160649039QQihZ002QQcategoryZ47075QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewI= tem >=20 > You might also look around to see if Roland lists=20 > these as a replacement part, and have your bench=20 > tech or authorized service center order them.=20 > They do exist, they're just not very easy to find. >=20 > Just a couple of leads, but I hope it helps a little. >=20 > =09--m. > -- > _____ > "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 22:37:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC4B53C04D; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 22:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 428 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 22:37:51 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=KM7u/w/Z0toIbhVv1Zpg5Hkkw/9zMujiQeUHcNMDhzQ=; b=PGm3fTpaGyTMNkvpBSPTpX2WFntRqUdTLLcorwo+qvOuVKgD5ynwc7UvcLc9wvktXjJmn1xQuHDILHNU8Kbb9q41bW6rano6oJHTm7/vOOGVLfK28Bj+wmvTNPJKbUszF4XSCHUtnUA2poMlcGeeCN0qkpg6B+C4h8Ld0Sog/RY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=J7V+M//xFiowQA2yP++/HICtVCEXgXFOySp61C3NOHA2mqhJ6Sd9R+A0JSH482SUQODA5S/pEWdaHbdIxrFQB+hDj872U5a2xp7ZU+vlH5crPuxFVJq6TIqGLf9/dSgSbT42Knue7bP9vjo87wl19ebL7dJiiF5Ss+MRVjtobx4= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:30:42 -0500 From: "Doug Cox" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loop Survey - Summary In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14212_32085606.1191277842243" References: <000c01c8037c$57c97e30$1001a8c0@succubus> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 22:37:51 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_14212_32085606.1191277842243 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline If you're interested, the 2005 Survey data is available in an Excel spreadsheet with a pivot table here: http://uncledig.com/wp/archives/116 Different data (it only gathered age, country, primary instrument, and then all looping devices (software and hardware) used), but it might give you some of the info you're looking for. There were 182 respondents. ------=_Part_14212_32085606.1191277842243 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline If you're interested, the 2005 Survey data is available in an Excel spreadsheet with a pivot table here: http://uncledig.com/wp/archives/116

Different data (it only gathered age, country, primary instrument, and then all looping devices (software and hardware) used), but it might give you some of the info you're looking for.  There were 182 respondents.
------=_Part_14212_32085606.1191277842243-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 22:59:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 035DE3BFC5; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 22:59:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=JP6Eb52WfBxFjowZIiUv5OW669MRRjkNcKeWJKGxL/4=; b=W/QaZQadER3eMHI8LgL7yXG0wnMuoBC/kzSghDsbeU/ggu3Jgb9z/ceifQPkxfhwot1OXNLzPXLltNn4m5Sptlzilf18HUOFEuR30pE60hMaFOjUrQqAf+iU8aY3hAuzlHDVElLqJvZq8iHIQICJYRfx6nJmef+c8ubmivXKs28= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=LuMe4mWTEduXfhgI8ZHx5gC2pmvZjl9/8YSpzK6s5m7B7taCvVKS6FabM2ZJv0+jn3d3Y3oVHj1HxkcmoOAIaZmbP6MH3V87dPv0mjAj9OE5AXnb97ePgwkAzH0he5GFSX2B2KP7a8GqlxwqUExKY0z7Xt/SdWLttCATDuLB8yg= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:33:36 -0500 From: "Doug Cox" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: pre recorded talking between live played songs In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A72055FF9D1@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14223_15897413.1191278016948" References: <40494.167.83.10.20.1191013614.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A72055FF9D1@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 22:59:26 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_14223_15897413.1191278016948 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Wanna buy some Mandies, Bob? ------=_Part_14223_15897413.1191278016948 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Wanna buy some Mandies, Bob?
------=_Part_14223_15897413.1191278016948-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 23:08:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABE3E3C051; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 23:08:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 402 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:08:13 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=5UIAtcIq6K1g/dDw4s4fHXpVcAqCs6mTwMT0/1WBJ12Cp6gqjTaKkgYis9Yk+CpCCPcszvpLI2mQbsBzlP7QCsxfVTYGiIyqoYKObnMcD+kknl1QUwBmT9gGZDn3qaMkf2j89n+aNnAsI3X8LkM3vCpNXCpmXiNGjD0RSnIIGyM=; X-YMail-OSG: ExKl3T4VM1kuzLocAVYFMLQSyOJpUSY5AduRAKfVKxvcDApqMHY8rNLTmSO9s1F5q3rPOlFS41orm8wht6cX4q1FKW6ARrcWDoV.YYgPWc4vRBWgSME- Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 16:01:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: RE: Recommended Cables - GK Guitar Synth Compatible Cables To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20071001132401.P2V99.105337.root@fepweb09> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <166296.35718.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 23:08:13 +0000 (UTC) here you can get them in different sizes and they ship worlwide: http://www.thomann.de/de/roland_gkc3.htm cheers Luis > > My question: > > > > DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHERE TO GET GK 13-PIN > COMPATIBLE CABLES IN EVEN SHORTER > > LENGTHS? > > > > I have a recently acquired box (a GKP-4) that acts > as a signal splitter so > > that my GK-equipped guitars can drive more than > one "brain" (GR synth-based > > or VG COSM-based). > > > > I hate the idea of having no other choice than to > connect items that sit on > > the floor only inches apart with a cable that is > 10' long (or more). > > > > Spaghetti is meant for Italian pasta on a plate, > not instrument floor cables > > underfoot. > > > > Besides shorter cable lengths sound better. > > > > If I could find a source for Gk 13-pin cables in > lengths of 3' or shorter I > > would be eternally grateful. > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > tEd R KiLLiAn > > > > www.tedkillian.com > > > > Different is not always better, but better is > always different" > > > > Flux Aeterna: > > > http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=63780 > > 76 > > > > Also check out the 1st set of BEMF (Boise > Experimental Music Festival) CDs > > at: > > http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/cd.htm > > > > http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html > > http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian > > http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html > > http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina > > > http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=2845073 > > > > http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=CBNM_17314 > > > > http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=193 > > > > http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=view_profile&id=121 > > 1970 > > 00042 > > > > Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: > Apple iTunes, > > BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, > DiscLogic, Napster, > > AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, > Etherstream, > > RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, > Puretracks, > > and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. > So??? > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 23:36:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 764FD3C04C; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 23:36:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2177 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 23:36:48 UTC Message-ID: <380-22007101123031817@M2W042.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: qua@oregon.com X-Originating-IP: 134.134.136.4 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "qua@oregon.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 19:00:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: Loop Survey - Summary Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 23:36:48 +0000 (UTC) Very interesting !! -Qua Original Message: ----------------- From: Doug Cox uncledig@gmail=2Ecom Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:30:42 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight=2Ecom Subject: Re: Loop Survey - Summary If you're interested, the 2005 Survey data is available in an Excel spreadsheet with a pivot table here: http://uncledig=2Ecom/wp/archives/116= Different data (it only gathered age, country, primary instrument, and the= n all looping devices (software and hardware) used), but it might give you some of the info you're looking for=2E There were 182 respondents=2E -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE =96 Free email based on Microsoft=AE Exchange technology - http://link=2Email2web=2Ecom/LIVE From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 1 23:43:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57D843C056; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 23:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20071001194322.BO6VT.116595.root@fepweb03> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 16:43:22 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Recommended Cables - GK Guitar Synth Compatible Cables Cc: "L.A. Angulo" In-Reply-To: <166296.35718.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: <-MriZC.A.DYF.aYYAHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 23:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Luis, Thanks! But that is the 3 meter version (approximately 10 feet) It's the same as is available from several other vendors online. I need a 1 meter version (about 3 ft). I am hoping to find something shorter than the 3 meter ones that are widely= available.. Thanks for trying though. Best regards, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?p= layListId=3D6378076=20 Also check out the BEMF 1 CDs at: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimenta= l/cd.htm http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 http://www.guitarplayer.com/story.asp?storyCode=3D18131 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ---- "L.A. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 00:05:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D7263C04C; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 00:05:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Oct 2007 00:05:08 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=GUMNBnxGC/N2dkYNrMRk1KMRY/3fKR/OUCEsoFhQgaa3TmOffq93bW9MhbWdzwffe8kXECjQT6jFdrb2SioC/z01UlAVMsXYO1mJgz5RLpud2n3wY/XSmBwEmnRbx4K9dZ5xr2dvSfDbcbPYc4fWhW1O6W2uU9dd16plmEfow8Q=; X-YMail-OSG: HcusW8wVM1lfOb3a9amY4bEed3KKDF1yAHTzbiR2nJ6wfzXLlew9iZZHS2nHGmsD3c3OHYMdozgAGBWR51S4ZbFH_kCn23nnXC2TDwhVzjgp6eXiXH4- Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 16:58:27 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Subject: Re: OT: Found sounds, contact mic recommendation To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <262371.40578.qm@web32715.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 00:05:09 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, I have been making contact mics for YEARS with the rat-shack 27-064. Too bad they no longer sell them. I guess it's allelectronics from here out. Rig --- Tony K wrote: > you can make your own contact mic... > > http://home.earthlink.net/~erinys/contactmic.html > > Or, maybe get one of those clip on lapel mics and > clip it to the > string. That might pick up the vibrations and give > you some > interesting sounds. > > http://www.radioshack.com/sm-hands-free-tie-clip-omnidirectional-electret--pi-2102927.html > > Tony > > On 10/1/07, Veda, Qua wrote: > > > > > > > > I'd like to record some found sounds by mic'ing a > string connected to > > various items. The string would have some > tension in it. I'm imagining > > sandwiching the string between a contact mic and a > hard object , or maybe > > between two contact mics. > > > > Any recommendations of what kind of mic could be > used to do this? > > > > In the meantime, here is a fun musical piece using > recordings of gargling > > and splashing in a bath tub > > http://www.waterdogstudio.com/bowl/ > > > > -Qua > > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 00:16:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0B063C057; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 00:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Oct 2007 00:16:41 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=EQleo0ZBH7yKw6L12ePfbIHDTbL/mcbGA+sMrDt+zj3YAq8mPxYNEIjK3WSfG7OBaHIsYiDPvrvUdrJiuCGsmahU6jP0oJV71LxwQDdcwIkU8gc/XOJvrFCrlNpGd/HcAGzmdLISBpt2lXcOX+6pnoUIFrQpu4nbT9iK63/b0VE=; X-YMail-OSG: 3xvpolcVM1nX0K0bpnOOHOG0Hvt.4L3xiEj9XMhiMd71VC29Vgzikd2jjVWFi5ygQXPEsgOh41Q.9XSume4CesGcqWjfg9MpItca9cT9D1X_OvzVzws- Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 17:10:00 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Subject: Re: OT: Found sounds, contact mic recommendation To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <545867.84705.qm@web32705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <2bZCJC.A.BzG.p3YAHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 00:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, You might want to try epoxying th string to the center of a small, decent quality speaker. with the proper tension on the string,the speaker could generate some kool signals. notethat I have never tried this, but always used rat-shack peizos. mabe epoxying the string to the center of the peizo. So many possiblilities. i have used the rat shack 273-064 for everything from pianos, harps, fiddles, mandolins, to tower bracing cables, industrial machine surfaces, engine blocks,heads etc. Probably the best was when I took 2 homemade celtic harps out front during a windy day, put a peizo on the bass and treble end of each soundboard and 4 tracked it all while the wind was blowing through the strings. I have 16 22 minute cassettes of this to stack up on multitrack to make a VERY ethereal piece of muzik. It ought to be very mesmerizing if I ever get around to finishing the project. Rig --- "Veda, Qua" wrote: > I'd like to record some found sounds by mic'ing a > string connected to > various items. The string would have some tension > in it. I'm > imagining sandwiching the string between a contact > mic and a hard object > , or maybe between two contact mics. > > Any recommendations of what kind of mic could be > used to do this? > > In the meantime, here is a fun musical piece using > recordings of > gargling and splashing in a bath tub > http://www.waterdogstudio.com/bowl/ > > -Qua > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 01:43:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 565A13C01C; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 01:43:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 450 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Oct 2007 01:43:34 UTC X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jivzqyGWAAAA:8 a=xET49kwZ_6MLBjGUBMcA:9 a=j7aWvspcVuvCUH4uvGbvwJzh1fAA:4 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=GL-Re4spl-cA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp09.embarq.synacor.com smtp.mail=echohead@embarqmail.com; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp09.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=echohead@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp09.embarq.synacor.com: 71.52.216.61 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of embarqmail.com) Message-ID: <002e01c80494$9804c720$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <262371.40578.qm@web32715.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: OT: Found sounds, contact mic recommendation Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 21:36:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 01:43:35 +0000 (UTC) Would this be a good substitute? http://www.allspectrum.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=453 Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "bill bigrig" To: Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 7:58 PM Subject: Re: OT: Found sounds, contact mic recommendation > Howdy, > > I have been making contact mics for YEARS with the > rat-shack 27-064. Too bad they no longer sell them. I > guess it's allelectronics from here out. > Rig > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 01:51:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7A1A3C057; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 01:51:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <835E17CE-7A26-4772-9526-C561A8CD00C1@gmail.com> References: <02df01c803f7$534782a0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <534F4974-D305-4D32-B88B-A90A2C3DA04B@mac.com> <835E17CE-7A26-4772-9526-C561A8CD00C1@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Silva Subject: Music Tech-Recording Forum Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 21:50:40 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 01:51:05 +0000 (UTC) > Thank you Per Boyson for your kind suggestion regarding off topic > discussions...... I'm wondering If anyone can't point me in the direction of a good Music Tech-Digital Recording Forum? Would it be appropriate to discuss recording software-technics- soft synths and the like on this forum? For example, I'm never really happy with the way my bass tracks and drums lay in my recordings-compared to the pro recordings. I'm not a slouch and have pretty good ears and experience, yet it is still a mystery. I'm hoping this relates to this forum. loops are an intregal part of my (and most everyones I'd think) recordings. Is this forum for 'live loopers' only? Any suggestions out there? Peace. Chuck Silva > Send it to the off topic list at > http://groups.google.com/group/loopers-delight-off-topic > Doing so won't clog up the looping list digest and only those > subscribed to the off topic list will get it. > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 02:24:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0BAF33C05B; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 02:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 586 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:24:51 UTC From: "Qua Veda" To: References: <262371.40578.qm@web32715.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <002e01c80494$9804c720$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <002e01c80494$9804c720$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: RE: OT: Found sounds, contact mic recommendation Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 19:14:53 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c8049a$0562e0e0$1028a2a0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgElvHlYsK2S1neT4uMuA8fmyaXHgAARzwA Content-Language: en-us X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: Dabc10de000007385.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 02:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Hi Jeff, your link didn't work, but I'll try it again later. In the meantime, I've found some contact mics online. "stereo" contact mics at www.contactmicrophones.com, plus some piezo film ones on ebay that range from $25-$50. This ebay ad has a cool video with it demonstrating using the mic with fx processor. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140163888540&sspagename=A DME:X:AAQ:US:11 Roland makes a cheap contact mic for use with a tuner - not sure how well it would capture sounds. May have to buy one to see how it works for my particular application. -Qua -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Duke [mailto:echohead@embarqmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 6:36 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Found sounds, contact mic recommendation Would this be a good substitute? http://www.allspectrum.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=453 Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "bill bigrig" To: Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 7:58 PM Subject: Re: OT: Found sounds, contact mic recommendation > Howdy, > > I have been making contact mics for YEARS with the > rat-shack 27-064. Too bad they no longer sell them. I > guess it's allelectronics from here out. > Rig > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 02:29:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F3F83C05F; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 02:29:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1380 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:29:15 UTC In-Reply-To: References: <02df01c803f7$534782a0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <534F4974-D305-4D32-B88B-A90A2C3DA04B@mac.com> <835E17CE-7A26-4772-9526-C561A8CD00C1@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-46-382689238 Message-Id: From: James Richmond Subject: Re: Music Tech-Recording Forum Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 22:06:10 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 02:29:16 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-46-382689238 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Oct 1, 2007, at 9:50 PM, Chuck Silva wrote: > I'm wondering If anyone can't point me in the direction of a good > Music Tech-Digital Recording Forum? I'm active on the Electronic Music forum at Gearslutz. It is a great forum with a lot of knowledgeable people. Jim Richmond --Apple-Mail-46-382689238 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
On Oct 1, 2007, at 9:50 PM, Chuck Silva wrote:

I'm wondering If anyone can't point me in the direction of a good Music Tech-Digital Recording Forum?


I'm active on the Electronic Music forum at Gearslutz.

It is a great forum with a lot of knowledgeable people.

Jim Richmond
--Apple-Mail-46-382689238-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 02:47:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56E313C04E; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 02:47:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 415 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Oct 2007 02:47:45 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=vsMlI2ETM3xFsSGeJBL10IlHRg/B3I0/ADvR6bGG2ZI=; b=qeH0syejPSQ9RR27qeOqXo5spfHkCPnKw6P4W/R86Hu3Xpagj9sObCIa7jA+PeB1SNzrSc0Gf440csMewdGw9PQNec3zguQxVTUXlR7Dv6CjEDpPmRUEV3QNjwppEj7HsmqdgR3M7umJDl8L2+yRbQh+SVLv6vOAI+bFoTAIa4A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=QYo8I14lbvpJwctONFgCBB7+1wcIwOxoIC3OYQ2efaXHc7TckeQkhGYB54/etc3/GtEtyGkfCVqD6kkSQJMDpaHYXUh3a9fUY/UQs0eK++UgqqQVTx0ZxgykGmSZ4URzk1pcpEjuN81VqDleQOk4XiI5Zspo3Nv5Ao7VVplPCFY= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <000001c8049a$0562e0e0$1028a2a0$@com> References: <262371.40578.qm@web32715.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <002e01c80494$9804c720$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <000001c8049a$0562e0e0$1028a2a0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: OT: Found sounds, contact mic recommendation Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 19:40:32 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 02:47:46 +0000 (UTC) On Oct 1, 2007, at 7:14 PM, Qua Veda wrote: > plus some piezo film ones on ebay that range from $25-$50. Here you can get the piezo film for $14, $9 and $2 : http://www.windworld.com/products/catalog.htm you need to scroll 3/4 of the way down the page. regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/tynego From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 03:44:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11F653C065; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 03:44:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:x-mimeole:thread-index:in-reply-to; bh=Hj7m1+5TK8gEEuPkJKETqZ9cjEOVR81SSXSrv3YPwYY=; b=Paflg7fBWgx1lbsqN47q0DXnkAW10wQY0T8ji1nR6TBYM8VdOJnDMqUHiYgf24+5bCMdEGRRePbTpb5ox9f2ssGVl2MhVc8czjax4SrjkVPNizbiihHgFO0SJggtIMPnzI1gdEcyA4Xdcui2eqWQLwcPAVrO7Wot2yDzyLLuVJc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:to:references:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:x-mimeole:thread-index:in-reply-to; b=iPVucKV0/bEVTHvHkT8Yd8KbXfTdDDag0P+zxzLdPZCwpcuJzF2ovZHx6yvBXKa8wNyOFhElMNvbvhMrWMGrjawMo0vCBA0lmdprqJe81Uga8Wgbda4M6PZeM9gtKlbC5YPGePD6YLPTuLneK77xoMs9ZtV/aGPXLq9wfwiHyRM= From: "Tony K" To: References: <02df01c803f7$534782a0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <534F4974-D305-4D32-B88B-A90A2C3DA04B@mac.com> <835E17CE-7A26-4772-9526-C561A8CD00C1@gmail.com> Subject: RE: Music Tech-Recording Forum Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 23:44:17 -0400 Message-ID: <00a001c804a6$832ee530$0200a8c0@daw1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Thread-index: AcgElrunQuNNaVM2Tb6H1Krfb9ynuQAD459w In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 03:44:17 +0000 (UTC) mixmasters@yahoogroups.com is quite nice. Tony -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Silva [mailto:any1particular@mac.com] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:51 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Music Tech-Recording Forum > Thank you Per Boyson for your kind suggestion regarding off topic > discussions...... I'm wondering If anyone can't point me in the direction of a good Music Tech-Digital Recording Forum? Would it be appropriate to discuss recording software-technics- soft synths and the like on this forum? For example, I'm never really happy with the way my bass tracks and drums lay in my recordings-compared to the pro recordings. I'm not a slouch and have pretty good ears and experience, yet it is still a mystery. I'm hoping this relates to this forum. loops are an intregal part of my (and most everyones I'd think) recordings. Is this forum for 'live loopers' only? Any suggestions out there? Peace. Chuck Silva > Send it to the off topic list at > http://groups.google.com/group/loopers-delight-off-topic > Doing so won't clog up the looping list digest and only those > subscribed to the off topic list will get it. > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.37/1042 - Release Date: 10/1/2007 6:59 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.37/1042 - Release Date: 10/1/2007 6:59 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 04:09:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C7763C068; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 04:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: Cc: "'Qua Veda'" References: <262371.40578.qm@web32715.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <002e01c80494$9804c720$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <000001c8049a$0562e0e0$1028a2a0$@com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: OT: Found sounds, contact mic recommendation Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 21:09:48 -0700 Message-ID: <000c01c804aa$132c4940$3984dbc0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgEn+gUo/boDLoES1uj7SzMmdVKhAAChkZA Content-Language: en-us X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: Dc6b00ccf000098b5.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. X-Spam-Tests-Failed: Whitelisted [0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 04:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Bob, very interesting website! -Qua -----Original Message----- From: RP Collier [mailto:skeptikalist@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 7:41 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Found sounds, contact mic recommendation On Oct 1, 2007, at 7:14 PM, Qua Veda wrote: > plus some piezo film ones on ebay that range from $25-$50. Here you can get the piezo film for $14, $9 and $2 : http://www.windworld.com/products/catalog.htm you need to scroll 3/4 of the way down the page. regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/tynego From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 05:44:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37F2A3C056; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 05:44:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <007301c804b7$5d9018b0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "Veda, Qua" , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" References: Subject: Re: Found sounds, contact mic recommendation Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 22:44:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 05:44:52 +0000 (UTC) OT: Found sounds, contact mic recommendationDear Qua, you wrote "Any recommendations of what kind of mic could be used to do this (for micing found objects)?" "Wow, Qua, with your sensibility, I'm so sad that you can't make the looping festival this year. I can't wait to hear you play. You would really resonate with Chris Cohn's, Jon Hanes', Dark Muse's and Matt Davignon's and, most probably, my work in terms of found sound fun. Also, as far as I know, most if not all contact mics are piezo mics which means that you can build one yourself for under $8 at any radio shack (Tandy in the UK). Here's what you do in a nutshell. It doesnt take longer than 5-10 minutes. You buy a piezo buzzer. and carefully break off the black hard plastic casing (I use needle nose pliers) exposing the inner wafer. Then solder to leads to each of the leads coming off the wafer and attach them to a female 1/4" jack. Then you buy a container of Plasti Grip (which is liquid tool handle material that is in liquid form until you dip the piezo into it, hang it by a rubber band from a coathanger and let it dry into a rubbery solid. Whammo...................build three or four at a time and you have a little army of piezo mics that work well with everything. Any time you see pricey dot pickups on guitars they are almost always just silicon piezo pickups..............no different than what you can build yourself. Additionally, a lot of places will sell sets of red dot 'drum' pickups that are already premade. Here while back I split a set of 10 of these with a friend for a whopping $60 USD. I use them for all kinds of things........found objects, string instruments, frame drums, sexual vibrators anything that vibrates. You then can tape or velcro them onto the surfaces you want to resonate. A lot of times you can tape them to a container that amplifies that acoustically amplifies the sound you are trying to mic...........................like a very cool container can be made out of packing styrofoam, in fact a cheap styrofoam beer container is an excellent inexpensive resonater (as our various cardboard and wood boxes). You can tape the piezo element to the container itself so that the object can freely vibrate (which it can't if the piezo is directly applied to the resonating object. There is a fantastic book that my wife bought me called, 'Getting Bigger Sound' - Pickups and Microphones for your Musical Instruments' by Bart Hopkins. I highly recommend it. You can order it through my wife, Christine Wedertz at www.bookworksaptos.com if you are in the US and can't find it elsewhere. (and a little plug here: if you value continued artistry in literature, support independent booksellers like the Bookworks in Aptos because they are not telling the publishers who to publish and who not to publish like the biggees like Amazon.com and Borders) Lately, I'm really into putting contact microphones onto portable battery powered fans and neck massagers and dildoes and then getting them to feedback with my rad little Vox battery powered guitar amplifier that has built in effects in it (including a compressor and a compressor phaser combo that really lets me control the feedback with the tone and gain knobs on the Vox. You can get a symphony of noise out of this process and I"m just loving it......... recording the results with a microphone and then slicing and dicing at will with a million VST effects in Fruity Loops on my computer.. Good luck and keep posting the results. I hope you can make Y2K8 if we do it. yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 07:32:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 357E63C065; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 07:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=yS2+XrIYFZeYp9hZpTS4BlkgfeJ3H4tgTTkVzZ9Uw4Q=; b=AfuZaHi0ZOYpFXTQS8qmweljOctArGMCG+NMRKS0jEaPv13umRbVDcsA1/JNjIgsNSJ6DeeOPdPOyP6ZKN+olj2GS+KIe4f2z95zvay7mTbPRh0iyIJjZxfH+0hBSNIUkR/1thrqFWTHlLOASh+RKgiuy337b8/FBq2f3swRCC8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Y6cQyhNGw43IEXKnRAF5Uh0dhs6QNgkZGYMXHo4jXxe4JOnwf6WUsn+vI0Mjd8aNWE+fmHTgeTgCIGv/m5AfR/8KcDPwBL0VnUJkKyNFpNkxi1KuBimObbmA/xGCEeIKTNXU2IrLWSF0vRg2LczozNaJUvoLxIkFzKqt1HNnHac= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <004101c8046c$9726ca60$1001a8c0@succubus> References: <004101c8046c$9726ca60$1001a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: AW: Loop Survey - Summary - post scriptum to eben Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 09:32:48 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 07:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Excuse this OT but what does "AW", in this letter's subject line, stand for? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 07:41:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB8433C069; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 07:41:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 09:41:56 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200710020741.l927fuKO025680@post.webmailer.de> X-Authentication-Warning: sek.store: httpd set sender to rs@moinlabs.de using -f To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rs@moinlabs.de Subject: Re: Music Tech-Recording Forum X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 512675 / 192.109.190.88 X-RZG-MBID: 0AP3TDtljfgdCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-RZG-CLASS-ID: em07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 07:41:58 +0000 (UTC) > I'm wondering If anyone can't point me in the direction of a good =20 > Music Tech-Digital Recording Forum? for me, it's recording.org and the already-mentioned gearslutz.com. > Would it be appropriate to discuss recording software-technics- soft =20 > synths and the like on this forum? try it ;-) > For example, I'm never really happy with the way my bass tracks and =20 > drums lay in my recordings-compared to the pro recordings. I'm not a =20 > slouch and have pretty good ears and experience, yet it is still a =20 > mystery. This would require some more explanation from your side to give you a sugge= stion. What does it sound like (or not sound like) in your case? What would= you want it to sound like? What are your sound sources? Do you have that e= xperience (your tracks sounding "weaker" than pro recordings) on all listen= ing equipment, or only on some? etc.etc. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 08:03:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9653C3C069; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 08:03:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=e33a09HAu30Moc1WJtBltG+OAp39jSQ9khVmtSp4U+Y=; b=oLU5g6aFOZMZvsF8fyIT7f4psulyrVYj6ZSEgCVITuWK3TvEdsX/Grv2Ehvv6Friov/eGRf/SXrFEfvgxqm+RZWczvkt2fOsdu2RFnAY99eHMBOAaDOMIYSwHLUdCQ38hlJEWa7cpy4p7EaItDdtZPQQbDGW+TExQMQbcUoJ4HI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=oA6i0DdwTjTKVUq4ng2/4EnqYt7NyFf3IiXa328Rv32ke9gC5ikJ1ULtk1VeDI58PzTlYS++rG7q8HRB/VUI9Nn4gSgFyKwkPwyPuDaOBhGx2lp6nMGj1vfQ1rz3XBV3272AAEpW/mT+zIPFwmzGDTC3llwXRtD/rzsXtFDKLjY= In-Reply-To: References: <02df01c803f7$534782a0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <534F4974-D305-4D32-B88B-A90A2C3DA04B@mac.com> <835E17CE-7A26-4772-9526-C561A8CD00C1@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0BF3BE68-6C3C-4FE9-A532-47134DCD976A@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Music Tech-Recording Forum Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 10:03:01 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 08:03:08 +0000 (UTC) On 2 okt 2007, at 03.50, Chuck Silva wrote: > I'm wondering If anyone can't point me in the direction of a good > Music Tech-Digital Recording Forum? http://community.sonikmatter.com Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 08:20:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3C8BE3C071; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 08:20:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 10:20:54 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200710020820.l928KsIi020221@post.webmailer.de> X-Authentication-Warning: ket.store: httpd set sender to rs@moinlabs.de using -f To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rs@moinlabs.de Subject: Re: Re: Found sounds, contact mic recommendation X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 512675 / 192.109.190.88 X-RZG-MBID: 0AP3TDtljfgdCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-RZG-CLASS-ID: em07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 08:20:56 +0000 (UTC) [DIY contact mics] > You buy a piezo buzzer. > and carefully break off the black hard plastic casing (I use needle nose= =20 > pliers) exposing the inner wafer. > Then solder to leads to each of the leads coming off the wafer and attach= =20 > them to a female 1/4" jack. Piezos are rather high-ohmic, with the resistance being a complex function = of displacement. To make that work (especially with regard to minimize EMI = and have acceptable sound quality when driving slightly longer lines), incl= ude a transformer in your mike. One of those which are used for a DI or for= a high-impedance microphone - one side is fed by the microphone, the other= one goes out symmetrically to an XLR. To save you the DIY part here, get Behringer's DI20 (active 2-ch DI box for= around =8020), which you would obviously keep as close to the mic as possi= ble. There, I used the B-word again ;) Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 08:35:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F5833C075; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 08:35:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 430 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Oct 2007 08:35:42 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=Mgr0JeqYUAZxv8PoM32vwpIzAgT5EHO/4pQIv+/2bvw=; b=DRj7ou0lkqNiVL0EPGUcgV3K9C8MydFqjyhG1xJButkxM7J1sd87m3onFObFZDsIqUYg44jgCA1uoMKS0bpE0jq5ynX6hLHVdQUCUb/LJFzbTdxZv9/aVsbsO+/0Jp1Esf9CqMLhCPuECSYdS+oGNVfS0WOzfyhmZNM/yQgWwv0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=m/lU8jlC9Oh2k0+AmYxZvLZxZZsE8fNH0Td5qGXCz0rrfAkBiXXANRZAfI3FNoK8s22f0QWFNxYVpMmG05KFeOGAAyn4+HL2dlZlQ7hiq60b8jc5D59m7RYA8287iiiSxGv+2LNfdarsQJEZySXJCmnhVkr8jEps3OkXdD6UgTc= In-Reply-To: <200710020741.l927fuKO025680@post.webmailer.de> References: <200710020741.l927fuKO025680@post.webmailer.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <20298EBC-05C3-4993-9662-251B18FA74B6@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Music Tech-Recording Forum Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 10:28:26 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 08:35:42 +0000 (UTC) >> I'm never really happy with the way my bass tracks and >> drums lay in my recordings-compared to the pro recordings. I'm not a >> slouch and have pretty good ears and experience, yet it is still a >> mystery. It is impossible to carry out a recording if drums and bass both carry prominent sound in the same frequency band. A key technique in producing recordings is to filter out enough of an instrument's sound that otherwise would collide with sound made by another instrument at the same time. Another common technique is side-chaining. Usually this is used to duck the bass channel by the signal of the kick drum channel, resulting in the the level of the bass going down just a little bit whenever the kick hits. Think of this as "creating a pocket in the bass sound for the kick drum to fit in". This is heard on many disco songs and also useful in funk. Devices and plug-ins that can be used for side-chaning are noise gates and compressors. By poly rhythmic musical arrangement (as in modern dance music, reggae and traditional Brazilian music etc) this "clashing of low frequencies" can be avoided without the need for filtering or side chaining, as mentioned above. Generally think about the complete music as "layers of sound", each instrument representing a unique layer. If they sound at the same time they have to occupy different bands of the frequency spectrum. Traditional music on folk instruments tend to use instruments that naturally complement each other well. This is also true to the symphonic orchestra. Rock music, however, has a tradition of layering sound to create a "dense mass effect". The point is not only to make every instrument come through, as in dance and brazilian, but to create a greater summed impact "in sound" and not only "in music". My personal view is that it's not all bad with clashing frequencies in music. A lot of the music I like actually draws on overtone phenomena that occur when related sounds collide. But speaking about the bass frequencies in particular, as in this thread, there isn't really much headroom for "ghost notes" to appear. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 10:31:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAB0F3C07B; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 10:31:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 677961081 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: OT: Found sounds, contact mic recommendation Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 11:31:18 +0100 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A72056000B1@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <000001c8049a$0562e0e0$1028a2a0$@com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: OT: Found sounds, contact mic recommendation Thread-Index: AcgE314owXbfZGp3Q1OzL0tnL0goWQ== References: <000001c8049a$0562e0e0$1028a2a0$@com> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Oct 2007 10:31:19.0409 (UTC) FILETIME=[5EC29E10:01C804DF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 10:31:26 +0000 (UTC) >>Roland makes a cheap contact mic for use with a tuner - not sure how well it would capture sounds.<< I bought something- not a roland- that was designed to allow the use of an electronic tuner with a violin. cost about $12 & had a slightly-too-short cable w/ 1/4" jack & a robust clip, which I had to take off because it pinched directly against the working surface of the microphone.=20 I bought it to use with a tiny kalimba, & it was very successful. the soundbox of the kalimba meant that the whole set-up could be used as a microphone too. this was in claremont, ca, in a shop that sells what my drummer calls "toys"..... :-) duncan. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 11:56:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E6A93C07E; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 11:56:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <470233B0.7060106@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:04:00 +0200 From: van Sinn Reply-To: vansinn@post.cybercity.dk Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Logic studio new version References: <781B9BE8-AB77-4A99-9553-D500B21EA98B@mac.com> <199835C1-24D3-46AD-8680-77A580059180@gmail.com> <1FA62BE1-128D-4A3D-8884-6BBB57E342BB@finleysound.com> <14C68D1D-C040-44F2-81B4-3FE789C3A571@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 11:56:50 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: >> On Sep 30, 2007, at 2:53 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> MainStage has a MIDI Through function. If you enable it every MIDI >>> Program Change event sent into MainStage will also be passed out the >>> MIDI Out port. If you have hardware effect processors there they >>> will of course change patches according to how you have programmed >>> them to. > > > On 1 okt 2007, at 01.59, Matthew F. McCabe wrote: > >> So, it's really just a pass through like using the MIDI Thru jack, >> right? If I understand correctly, MainStage cannot generate its own >> MIDI Out messages as part of its own internal preset hierarchy. > > > Yes, that's correct. I wonder if it's possible to write a plugin that Logic sees as a mere pluging receiving MIDI commands, but will be configurable/capable of sending out MIDI via the MIDI layer. Been away from programming too long to do it myself, though.. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 12:03:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A005C3C087; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 12:03:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4702355C.1090806@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:11:08 +0200 From: van Sinn Reply-To: vansinn@post.cybercity.dk Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Logic studio new version References: <781B9BE8-AB77-4A99-9553-D500B21EA98B@mac.com> <199835C1-24D3-46AD-8680-77A580059180@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <199835C1-24D3-46AD-8680-77A580059180@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8jAtn.A.UxF.rOjAHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 12:03:55 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > ... Audio tails from the recent patch is kept sounding while > you're loading a new patch. MainStage makes a very good "virtual > electric guitar amp + effect rack" . If available in MainStage, how would you describe it's pitch transposing and harmonizing capabilities and quality compared to an Eventide Harmonizer and a Digitec TSR-24S (dual S-DISH)? - I'm using the TSR, don't have an Eventide; just for comparison.. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 13:18:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D664D3C045; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 13:18:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 603 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Oct 2007 13:18:11 UTC X-Trace: 629640746-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.197.240 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4HAFPfAUdPQsXw/2dsb2JhbACCKKQD Message-ID: <470242B4.1030000@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:08:04 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Music Tech-Recording Forum References: <02df01c803f7$534782a0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <534F4974-D305-4D32-B88B-A90A2C3DA04B@mac.com> <835E17CE-7A26-4772-9526-C561A8CD00C1@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 13:18:11 +0000 (UTC) Chuck Silva wrote: >> Thank you Per Boyson for your kind suggestion regarding off topic >> discussions...... > > Would it be appropriate to discuss recording software-technics- soft > synths and the like on this forum? you're free to discuss anything you want, ..but then any list member is free to ask you not too seems to work :-) > > For example, I'm never really happy with the way my bass tracks and > drums lay in my recordings-compared to the pro recordings. I'm not a > slouch and have pretty good ears and experience, yet it is still a mystery. > > I'm hoping this relates to this forum. loops are an intregal part of my > (and most everyones I'd think) recordings. well, there's certainly folk on this list who would gladly answer that sort of question. Putting OT (off topic) in the subject is a popular way to indicate that the post is not directly loop related. > > Is this forum for 'live loopers' only? as far as I know it's intended for any loop based music. > > Any suggestions out there? for the bass/drum question you asked 1) see other posts :-) 2) listen to just the kick drum and the bass together, keep messing around till they work together and then bring in the rest of the drums. Get that right, then bring in the other instruments. 3) Do you really want it to sound like a commercial recording? (i wouldn't :-) > > Peace. > > Chuck Silva > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 13:43:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 772DD3C082; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 13:43:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Oct 2007 13:43:47 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=bKRrDDsKmohDUhADcuMjF9OEjsqmsOui5QZu3YyuBcitwrSjVSBdyFStbRMhCkYmh3SPbclpBKPHh9BTWQzh/edP7KKbqQUZZPoF69eIqKZY8fIDBo0GitDi4IqabOjWTw9z/lXpTxR5D6+3DN4ugKPLFV+J+VyH9AD0OUdybKU=; X-YMail-OSG: BsTXxJQVM1nxb9cd7P_CiPL5IPJBEevEd9tog0o7Vx07VTRLt1KKF3kMGZ6ZMeIy8teL6gEXD8JJ7eCtEWRT7OKm3LDGCcBFSFdCZjMI3jm3fg-- Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 09:37:05 -0400 (EDT) From: JASON CASKENTTE Subject: Canadian loopers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-790318245-1191332225=:84389" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <936853.84389.qm@web88301.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <9JoFJD.A.vo.TskAHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 13:43:48 +0000 (UTC) --0-790318245-1191332225=:84389 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Out of the four Canadians that responded to the loop survey are any of you from southern Ontario? because I too am from Canada and wouldn't mind hooking something up. 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Out of the four Canadians that responded to the loop survey are any of you from southern Ontario? because I too am from Canada and wouldn't mind hooking something up.
 
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See what's=20= new at http://www.aol.com --part1_c1c.1fcd9f1e.3433aa33_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 14:24:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CE653C08C; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 14:24:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Oct 2007 14:24:03 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:17:21 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <0C389FB1-92DE-41BB-B9EB-42F6CB2E5617@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <20071002141721.297080@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <764C57BA-09C3-42C5-B20E-E15F1A6BB271@blueyonder.co.uk> <0C389FB1-92DE-41BB-B9EB-42F6CB2E5617@blueyonder.co.uk> Subject: Re: Acoustic Piano Looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18+3IAKRMg+kHqzwuyylT7xKdMlcaDhnVD5JgZI/+ FZ5Thy8tYFtcKF1Vro2IN2SXrVCaFT9CQSlg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: phZIAEQTa2AoW80tzHUylwA6OWhhakeQ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 14:24:04 +0000 (UTC) Hi actually, when you run a piano through a PA for looping, you might as well settle down with a stage piano. I'm using it quite often, and recently also with effects. The results are very good. Personally, when I do recording for myself with piano, I really prefer my stage piano (which has good samples). I don't think I'd be able to come up with an acoustic mic setup, that would achieve the same or better result. Check out the pianist from E.S.T. They are playing jazz. I saw them live and the pianist (Esbjörn?) is using effects with mics on a grand piano in a live setting successfully. Best regards Buzap -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kanns mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 14:31:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A09AF3C089; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 14:31:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:31:20 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <014301c7fb8c$bed1c440$4cc8f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Message-ID: <20071002143120.297120@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <00ac01c7fb62$8e34a4d0$6402a8c0@PC576340162804> <014301c7fb8c$bed1c440$4cc8f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: kazoo looping :-) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19UfDwZdz1UrB6aEQMA8LzbXqc8K2FWmgIAArErwZ EJjG2W8EYqQnJ5YowNE9NsYxMMqspYL/c9NA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: cBBkLXgCaHItXNNJ3SQlvFViamdhZIRP Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 14:31:23 +0000 (UTC) I think Kazoo is (much like the harmonica) a most undervalued instrument. Unfortunately, people look at it more as a joke. I'm using it a lot with or without effects/looping. Based on your vocal abilities, you can do the most amazing things with a kazoo. The only risk & temptation is really ruining your vocal cords... best regards Buzap -- Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 14:49:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 328693C097; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 14:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,220,1188792000"; d="scan'208";a="58396789" X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAAD3AUdKiMLs/2dsb2JhbAA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,220,1188792000"; d="scan'208";a="136653375" Message-ID: <000a01c80503$7064bcb0$ecc2884a@preferre4ca07a> From: "Mark Smart" To: References: <00ac01c7fb62$8e34a4d0$6402a8c0@PC576340162804> <014301c7fb8c$bed1c440$4cc8f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <20071002143120.297120@gmx.net> Subject: Re: kazoo looping :-) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 09:49:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <5FAi3.A.3GD.zplAHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 14:49:24 +0000 (UTC) I always liked the overdubbed four-part kazoo harmony on Queen's "A Night At The Opera". Mark Smart http://www.marksmart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 17:39:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DD823C076; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:39:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: EH SMM w/ Hazari Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 19:39:30 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000001c8051b$2fca6bb0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcgFGy+Wpf7uEML1TECX3Atn9SOBBA== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD10+29g0lzj2YkJss= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: <7_fJbC.A.wjC.-IoAHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 17:39:10 +0000 (UTC) Anyone heard anything more about this one? http://www.ehx.com/ehx2/Default.asp?q=f&f=%2FCatalog%2F001%5FXO%5FLine%2F50% 5FStereo%5FMemory%5FMan%5Fwith%5FHazarai Opinions? Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 18:53:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87E8B3C08F; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 18:53:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 61187 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Oct 2007 18:53:07 UTC Message-ID: <50808.69.59.203.72.1191289999.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: <02df01c803f7$534782a0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <534F4974-D305-4D32-B88B-A90A2C3DA04B@mac.com> <835E17CE-7A26-4772-9526-C561A8CD00C1@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 18:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Music Tech-Recording Forum From: improv@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: <6RmmcB.A.jlF.TOpAHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 18:53:07 +0000 (UTC) I'm a big fan of the Tape Op messageboard, messageboard.tapeop.com >> Thank you Per Boyson for your kind suggestion regarding off topic >> discussions...... > > I'm wondering If anyone can't point me in the direction of a good > Music Tech-Digital Recording Forum? > > Would it be appropriate to discuss recording software-technics- soft > synths and the like on this forum? > > For example, I'm never really happy with the way my bass tracks and > drums lay in my recordings-compared to the pro recordings. I'm not a > slouch and have pretty good ears and experience, yet it is still a > mystery. > > I'm hoping this relates to this forum. loops are an intregal part of > my (and most everyones I'd think) recordings. > > Is this forum for 'live loopers' only? > > Any suggestions out there? > > Peace. > > Chuck Silva > > > > > >> Send it to the off topic list at >> http://groups.google.com/group/loopers-delight-off-topic >> Doing so won't clog up the looping list digest and only those >> subscribed to the off topic list will get it. >> >> >> >> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 19:21:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C77FE3C08D; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 19:21:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1481 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:21:32 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=XzN94co3jJJMVbuWTSireHqCCeRYHQFf7QrFFQJp5bk=; b=rjp0g4H+oigcUTRztk2XePsRt18datPWJhU1bKUbN4FrayW8JSDeGPBXj2lXcPgpg2RdgKqtyBZYzlvMb2tmzt0BVCGqHKPskwMfZUjb90nUavICxacnmjPwRxYgprNHR3ONn9gOGzCH82Ak6eC+BejUsRcTyj0lxyOuscEAHbg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PW03lSL6hgaZS592obqozkzNpkmVI773utn/rFJLDnRa0pGenZAYe/ghmaTq7HoqFy+QNnZVCKPTk1z6JXg1ZM/8NnvzDey/cCtI2pX6ikHpv1ApP4YlWgHQPvaMRZe4qF6u9xb534oZZ7j6AA/5Me1cItkr/nnxK3Ue38NL94A= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 11:56:48 -0700 From: "Matt Davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: Loop Survey - Summary - post scriptum to eben In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <004101c8046c$9726ca60$1001a8c0@succubus> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 19:21:32 +0000 (UTC) I always thought it meant that there was a puppy nearby. Per Boysen went: > Excuse this OT but what does "AW", in this letter's subject line, > stand for? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 19:54:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 487983C095; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 19:54:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Oct 2007 19:54:48 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=WaK/SP152aaMciM9uA0Tw7/1X7CxDtK9AQ9fkU4JeaISMDtldTo4R0iM1zaBz8PH9aJkoHuftUQtTncmVDhin/1g2eWAKORDrEByAj0TBA5RrbUwv/reddZd3to3GpKqp8BcfAoa4HKjoVurlvw51q4QF9wPkF1KmJuC30h5fos=; X-YMail-OSG: a_kHcTYVM1k7E8EHnoNl3rEhPTKX8jaRHHYBor9yI02mk5IsDcAPVHrS0gY8ewvZS7azfQZ1vjZrDmzSn.C1MtUGRO_PPxCiOHWMPrLWeMKtaXqbBu_cPRGvD4h3XA-- Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 12:48:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Kupferschmid Subject: Re: EH SMM w/ Hazari To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000001c8051b$2fca6bb0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <390649.69058.qm@web34313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <11JndD.A.Fx.IIqAHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 19:54:49 +0000 (UTC) I can't wait to actually see one in person, and try it out, I'm a big fan of EH stuff, especially the newer stuff, but man, that stuff is expensive when you don't have much money to play with. What i'm curious to find out is, what the hell is Hazari? --- Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > Anyone heard anything more about this one? > http://www.ehx.com/ehx2/Default.asp?q=f&f=%2FCatalog%2F001%5FXO%5FLine%2F50% > 5FStereo%5FMemory%5FMan%5Fwith%5FHazarai > > Opinions? > > Rainer > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 20:45:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00E7A3C079; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:45:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1805 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Oct 2007 20:45:18 UTC Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2007 16:14:02 -0400 From: Warren Sirota Subject: RE: EH SMM w/ Hazari In-reply-to: <390649.69058.qm@web34313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <00c701c80530$c71943f0$4b02a8c0@warren5d67d038> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thread-index: AcgFLighQ9aPaR0mQPKc7rIY3vJ0UQAAbV+Q Resent-Message-ID: <01l4P.A.NgD.e3qAHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:45:18 +0000 (UTC) This is funny. Hazari (hah - zahr - EYE) is a Yiddish term that loosely translates (I don't know the literal) to "a bunch of crap" or garbage, but meant in an affectionate way (Yiddish is tough to explain) - I guess it's more like "with all the various nonsense you wackos want" in this instance, or like the Southern "with all the trimmin's" (but with a little more irony). I never thought anyone would have the chutzpah to use that in a product name! > -----Original Message----- > From: Brian Kupferschmid [mailto:apparitionapparition@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 3:48 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: EH SMM w/ Hazari > > I can't wait to actually see one in person, and try it > out, I'm a big fan of EH stuff, especially the newer > stuff, but man, that stuff is expensive when you don't > have much money to play with. What i'm curious to > find out is, what the hell is Hazari? > --- Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill > wrote: > > > Anyone heard anything more about this one? > > > http://www.ehx.com/ehx2/Default.asp?q=f&f=%2FCatalog%2F001%5FXO%5FLine%2F5 > 0% > > 5FStereo%5FMemory%5FMan%5Fwith%5FHazarai > > > > Opinions? > > > > Rainer > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > __________ > Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get > listings, and more! > http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/3658 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 21:07:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B8EC3C092; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 21:07:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <524B9384-037E-4B02-A23C-9A5663A9438C@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: new music posted Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:08:35 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 21:07:05 +0000 (UTC) Greetings. Uploaded some new recordings to my website << http:// web.mac.com/pmimlitsch >>. "terrains" and "screech" are from a recent art opening/ reception (Zen Calligrapher Alok Hsu Kwang-han) I provided sonic wallpaper for. "droplets" and "droplets3" started as concept based improvs. ie: recording a series of succesive 9ths. on loop 1 with a series of succesive of 6ths. running parallel (unsynced/ different lengths) on loop 2. and then adding/ playing off of how they interact. "kg2" is a kalimba/ guitar loop improv. and "settling in" is a duo improv. w/ flautist Meg York recorded at a house concert. Thanks for listening. - Paul << http://web.mac.com/pmimlitsch >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 22:33:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDEBE3C080; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 22:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 428 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Oct 2007 22:33:23 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Nh0UeOEkq1q4lTioz4F9xByBMBznuwr4OBPeh/G0c5o=; b=icLZze8IKD88Z7xTFaz3vwUyH1lx1DWkOC+EYND0CGBsVAbhy+s2D1r3dZUwWow8fYfjolLWk7jQvTp7aUOvnk9WScbetkIeYQ+quPeGasS7otu6dDrkw5Vwya/lWbjJhGH9tUJXyCYGzT/b+NURX+hsr0cnskUKEBI/BkMfh90= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QdB7CQpcYgbyI8JsFFqHVLBd8uArdQkH9LV2STTmQNwun0t4EOqUa7PKolF3hWOhNNFqP2ltmP9yZ/klsd8eQtdcV+K1mnrLxfmWoFEsODEpvmuE+DL1WRYhrCVoziMfwzbdb5PrP6pnZbZL3wZCrYha7TT9QHbtPoUfTtEohRQ= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 18:26:13 -0400 From: "radio radio" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loop Survey - Summary - post scriptum to eben In-Reply-To: <004101c8046c$9726ca60$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <004101c8046c$9726ca60$1001a8c0@succubus> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 22:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Hmmm...you're right, I certainly don't want to enter the raw data manually (but thanks for the offer). For future reference, I used QuestionPro as a survey site in the past and was able to download the raw data for free under some 1-time only student trial version. I don't remember if it was a hassle to sign up for the student version or not, but beware - if you use them they'll send you emails for years. I'm not certain I understand your question about years of looping experience, although you may be asking why there are more people in the middle amount of years and less on the extremes, which is how almost all data looks when you take a survey (there is an average with most people in the middle, and less people are further away from average). This would be the same as if you asked people how tall they are, but I'm not sure this is what you are talking about anyway. I did take a look at the data from the 2005 survey since it has raw data. Unfortunately, there is no easy way to look at looping devices any differently because of the way it is set up (perhaps a hundred or so variables, and I think it would be problematic to combine them, let alone take a while). Besides, the analysis you did was plenty good enough for that. I was able to look at a couple of things though that I found fairly interesting and isn't covered by the good work you already did: I think most interesting is that the respondents from Looper's Delight are definitely older than the responders from Harmony Central. We can't be sure exactly how much older, since the question was a range of ages (e.g., 35 - 40, 41 - 50, etc.), and the ranges were not all equal, but if we pretend that the middle of those ranges represents the people in that range well, which it may or may not, then the Looper's Delight respondents were on average 10 years older. It is very unlikely that this estimate is very accurate, the real number could be significantly higher or lower, but the probability of finding this age difference randomly is something like 2 in a ten million, which again is misleading because of the age ranges, but still is a number that doesn't turn up that often in survey research like this. So we can be pretty certain that the Looper's Delight crowd is older, and to a large extent is does look like the whole age curve really is higher, and not better explained by just a ton of infants in HC or a ton of geriatrics in LD. We don't know if this is a dead on accurate representation of EVERYONE on this mailing list (in 2005), or everyone on Harmony Central, but now that you think about it, doesn't it seem like there are a lot of reviews on Harmony Central written by some 12 year old who just got a guitar for Christmas? This data would support that. Similarly, and supporting this age difference, is that Looper's Delight respondents definitely have more years of looping experience, averaging roughly 9 years for LP to 4 for HC, so more than double the years of experience on average. This also has a VERY low probability of being a random finding. This number is also much more reliable than the age one because years of looping experience was not answered in a range. LP also has a larger proportion of Western Europeans (and lower from USA) than does HC. The numbers on this would be misleading, but we can be fairly confident then that the Looper's Delight community (in 2005, of those who respond to surveys) is generally more international, a bit older, and more experienced. There could be many more caveats due to the methods, but no more than in most or all survey research, so I feel pretty good about these interpretations. Eben On 10/1/07, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > btw, there's one analysis you could do even without having the raw data: > > with the data you already have from my published info regarding looping > experiences in the bins, could you do an analaysis how many people per year > have been coming in during the last 25 years to give us this results. > Obviously, this is an under-determined set of equations, but what is it? > Obviously, only a few people in the first years, then two peaks in the > middle and since a decline? > > Rainer > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 22:34:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC6643C061; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 22:34:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=hCKK8O5pad88drt9KBPvgpnVLPReqwhMRr+/zbTISIY=; b=i7Bq2FmPxQUszu1TqQRItw62t1noBmy0GGYAsvUX2rP+l23NsBS4ExaeitpOhIWiXbFjpXlSCv97asDOIrhp8oXFTqZO73X/aY78hT0Fd9Wwx6xwPVgt5bUDHqj6QKxusY9w8v3oRGoKYBRTwSMlxCGoqz4Ki6f4cjIbAXSTXaI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Zs24xavOAMwppcbsOcgOEABNrq76hgtuO7kHyIuB6JorlCV1L+2rZL6XCNxdQ/7Yx5NZBWBbPT77g+nlx2PfklCGyObas3WY2d1I5hrSb2mLZTJoZLyKQO+7GH6mGtyhlrZ7JOejMLeff8lAppLikNjdLizqu5GZ07MFN/vTboE= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 18:34:48 -0400 From: "radio radio" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Canadian loopers In-Reply-To: <936853.84389.qm@web88301.mail.re4.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <936853.84389.qm@web88301.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <-YqJ1B.A.WdB.LesAHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 22:34:51 +0000 (UTC) How far South? I'm in Buffalo, New York . . . Eben On 10/2/07, JASON CASKENTTE wrote: > Out of the four Canadians that responded to the loop survey are any of you > from southern Ontario? because I too am from Canada and wouldn't mind > hooking something up. > > Jason > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 22:59:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D24E63C09D; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 22:59:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=PggdIfxRmec7Ojb9GqzSsroU5UMIVdX8LAuYvYZBh2UIVGEqR3LzyQBJVOFM0xm8Bt29hAgzWa8olJvqn2tMlzIu4WAbn4y7LHPPAmH6lyeeBxPuOMAMbcbBFZmAkLpoSthCBcE6tRr2zu7yj/Td55wsgnv/9xuXPnlPIllbVp0=; X-YMail-OSG: o..MWesVM1kpw2ExKvoKdhGTPOTzKh5Jo..JYcfV0MojcFaMahavCgYveAVWxXtrXZbiHPN1K8Oba9KK15VZEPXdm59wc3el7_L2usoclT4BEC6lAiGLW1ay_2RaYA-- Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:59:46 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Subject: Re: OT: Found sounds, contact mic recommendation To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <002e01c80494$9804c720$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <789303.96167.qm@web32711.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 22:59:48 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, Yes, I don't see why not. I'm especially intrigued by the 3rd wire which the 273-064 also had. Could it be the same transducer? Justunsolder the evtra lead and wire as usual. On the rat-shack peizo it was blue. If this one is, I'm going to buy some more. Even though I'm sitting on about 20of them. Thanx. Rig --- Jeff Duke wrote: > Would this be a good substitute? > http://www.allspectrum.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=453 > > Jeff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bill bigrig" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 7:58 PM > Subject: Re: OT: Found sounds, contact mic > recommendation > > > > Howdy, > > > > I have been making contact mics for YEARS with the > > rat-shack 27-064. Too bad they no longer sell > them. I > > guess it's allelectronics from here out. > > Rig > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 22:59:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 455113C0AB; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 22:59:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=VjzEwbrI9dQPa66VWdwv8VKNuzcDJfLA17wHM/P5oL/Xyvx/7dDGdwpk4achEL7eC2ZY+m2+yWoe3BWRbSjSk7lCfrewcDh4nClMVQWmkHeLarhJ4YxcCmk8EeUUJN5fJn0gGCvpEb02gfYRN3nxuRv3jwuLRfFuCaWj022djxc=; X-YMail-OSG: jDYwFR4VM1mYpsjAfyJACoBVftx1YtODK0yOFUWmsAmbd58zZPWkx5.BQSrirxFAjw-- Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 15:59:46 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Subject: Re: OT: Found sounds, contact mic recommendation To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <002e01c80494$9804c720$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <188486.38631.qm@web32710.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 22:59:49 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, Yes, I don't see why not. I'm especially intrigued by the 3rd wire which the 273-064 also had. Could it be the same transducer? Justunsolder the evtra lead and wire as usual. On the rat-shack peizo it was blue. If this one is, I'm going to buy some more. Even though I'm sitting on about 20of them. Thanx. Rig --- Jeff Duke wrote: > Would this be a good substitute? > http://www.allspectrum.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=453 > > Jeff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "bill bigrig" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 7:58 PM > Subject: Re: OT: Found sounds, contact mic > recommendation > > > > Howdy, > > > > I have been making contact mics for YEARS with the > > rat-shack 27-064. Too bad they no longer sell > them. I > > guess it's allelectronics from here out. > > Rig > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 23:09:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A37273C0A9; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 23:09:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 88166 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:09:53 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=eEjSXLYRQpm9zmAAMZYHEmNqmc63/4B0F1jdLUw2CP4=; b=nRxzluLeKXzCUxte5BbzUvTSjA9Yed1D+EoLDy9OIJyr0Dx40PjCQAvhZh+HT+8Uvj5RoD60s/vTa287RsvYydqvNiD8ZkOmI+ewQDNhBMc39+/N52wXKHdPgJC73HuVbwTkU2LS4JATBV3VfrWFZ/OAmAVE8dlJzdF7+ngyloA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YKLvh9+igwTWrfHeamaqFSh8vPFguLKPQSkz5v38vPkuYtg96pXo/KOdknal33bmd50or/YMSEigUun+fi/SPxvVrOuvFn8Mn4k/HLEU+6nPgousuv+EUQq6nBVgzTpiV4/y+fsj1tnjvWugOuYmpUJCUV8dNEq4bDSRktDl/kM= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 18:09:52 -0500 From: "Doug Cox" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loop Survey - Summary - post scriptum to eben In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19862_21375711.1191366592329" References: <004101c8046c$9726ca60$1001a8c0@succubus> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 23:09:53 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_19862_21375711.1191366592329 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Just to be clear - I'm the fool who did the 2005 data analysis :) Don't blame that one on Ranier. >From my empirical experience (ie, I've been on both LD and HC for quite a while), I can fairly confidently assure you that the people at HC (in general, and those involved in looping) are much younger than the typical LD member. This is borne out not only in the data, but in the ummmm... content of the conversation?... at HC. I've also found that very few people at HC explore looping beyond either the static-single-loop paradigm, or the record-some-chords-and-solo-over-them paradigm. When they get interested in more complex looping concepts, they end up over here. I'm not knocking Harmony Central, btw. Great bunch of enthusiastic guys. Just helping to confirm the data with my perspective. Doug ------=_Part_19862_21375711.1191366592329 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Just to be clear - I'm the fool who did the 2005 data analysis :)  Don't blame that one on Ranier.

From my empirical experience (ie, I've been on both LD and HC for quite a while), I can fairly confidently assure you that the people at HC (in general, and those involved in looping) are much younger than the typical LD member.  This is borne out not only in the data, but in the ummmm... content of the conversation?... at HC. 

I've also found that very few people at HC explore looping beyond either the static-single-loop paradigm, or the record-some-chords-and-solo-over-them paradigm.  When they get interested in more complex looping concepts, they end up over here.

I'm not knocking Harmony Central, btw.  Great bunch of enthusiastic guys.  Just helping to confirm the data with my perspective.

Doug
------=_Part_19862_21375711.1191366592329-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 23:27:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C76F3C0A8; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 23:27:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=jivzqyGWAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=M1qEMswS-OLFJfol2ZEA:9 a=_dcCq8mqt5Z8J2dj8yUA:7 a=P5HRgdnlNhVoTXAn2Djd7uE1jWkA:4 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=zxxVM3CWV3sA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.mail=echohead@embarqmail.com; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=echohead@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp07.embarq.synacor.com: 71.48.241.17 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of embarqmail.com) Message-ID: <002f01c8054b$d5c988e0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <188486.38631.qm@web32710.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: OT: Found sounds, contact mic recommendation Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 19:27:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 23:27:47 +0000 (UTC) Look closely at the pic enlarged. Are there 2 wires or 3 or 4, I think that the others are shadows. I am old and my eyes may be playing tricks....lol Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "bill bigrig" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2007 6:59 PM Subject: Re: OT: Found sounds, contact mic recommendation > Howdy, > > Yes, I don't see why not. I'm especially intrigued by > the 3rd wire which the 273-064 also had. Could it be > the same transducer? Justunsolder the evtra lead and > wire as usual. On the rat-shack peizo it was blue. If > this one is, I'm going to buy some more. Even though > I'm sitting on about 20of them. Thanx. > Rig > > > --- Jeff Duke wrote: > >> Would this be a good substitute? >> > http://www.allspectrum.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=453 >> >> Jeff >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "bill bigrig" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 7:58 PM >> Subject: Re: OT: Found sounds, contact mic >> recommendation >> >> >> > Howdy, >> > >> > I have been making contact mics for YEARS with the >> > rat-shack 27-064. Too bad they no longer sell >> them. I >> > guess it's allelectronics from here out. >> > Rig >> > >> >> > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who > knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.35/1040 - Release Date: > 9/30/2007 9:01 PM > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 2 23:41:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02A553C0AD; Tue, 2 Oct 2007 23:41:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 301 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 02 Oct 2007 23:41:34 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <697F55FB-9A99-498C-8632-9E022E6448CD@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: info at zoekeating Subject: little boxes (was survey) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 16:36:31 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 23:41:34 +0000 (UTC) wot i mean is...i would think that people will choose their software tools based on what is available for their OS. so their choice in the survey might not say that much about their preferred looping 'school'. i mean, i would think that when someone needs any kind of tool...a strobe tuner, a midi keyboard, a media player....they would google what is out there for their OS. but that would be an interesting survey question! "would you install and run a different OS on your computer in order to use a particular software looper?" yes Live and Mobius are obviously different - one is more 'sampler' and one is more 'old skool EDP-esque'. (and i find the 'sampler-only' qualities of Live to be annoying). but to overcome the 'sampler' limitations a user might look around for what additional tools to use, in combination with Live, in order to accomplish EDP-esque looping (software plugin like Augustus or SooperLooper, or add an external hardware looper into an input channel). by the way, i couldn't figure out how to make my looping setup fit into the survey. - using a software looper to control a hardware looper. the audio is recorded onto a hardware-looping device but all the controls are sent from the software looper. is that a hardware or software preference? i'd love to know if anyone else does this. both electrix and bill walker have told me i might be the only one but i don't believe that at all. i want my sub-group dammit! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 3 01:19:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 14EDE3C0A3; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 01:19:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <697F55FB-9A99-498C-8632-9E022E6448CD@zoekeating.com> References: <697F55FB-9A99-498C-8632-9E022E6448CD@zoekeating.com> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 20:19:25 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: little boxes (was survey) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <0225DD.A.c7B.14uAHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 01:19:50 +0000 (UTC) At 4:36 PM -0700 10/2/07, info at zoekeating wrote: > >- using a software looper to control a hardware looper. the audio is >recorded onto a hardware-looping device but all the controls are >sent from the software looper.... > >i'd love to know if anyone else does this. both electrix and bill >walker have told me i might be the only one but i don't believe that >at all. >i want my sub-group dammit! I'd actually be surprised to find out that you were alone in using that configuration. While not so common -- not to mention somewhat advanced -- it sounds like something that would really be of interest to a few of the regular posters (Rainer? Per?). Personally, I *might* fit into that category with my L2k7 configuration, if you count Ableton as a piece of looping software. I've dropped software looping from that config entirely (simplify, simplify, simplify) and I'm now mostly using the computer as a big plug-in host, with a few MIDI functions fired off to the Looperlative from Live's Clips or Arpeggiator. Dunno if that really counts, though. --m. -- _____ "I want to keep you alive so there is always the possibility of murder... later" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 3 01:40:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1DD33C0B2; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 01:40:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 404 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 01:40:37 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=z/nJu+DURNB4HCD3+mV6h80aBW7y8MEP7gLxGKqjO64=; b=R6uwndnh2pEK7YYtgNfjKfpLa339wJknRwoEgp+DMobTVHPNjXC4VxZp74HrteYiUn2exeBWpclTrO9yaa5ofnN22GYif5ujvyisDE6t6BXLiURhCV8oKkdFDSI9bfwVV5t1N/A+kcjvF5dxwW00y/inIzzvA8T9sM3albvSW4s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=Vf3p2JZ9ZV30FyuRzRfxt8YwyPYEqdPHYluLQoQNGI2ALZSW/hNEN/8gGRmTWu/bfablikbqPGhbRyAqgNe4zc7I79SRt+7rnxhAcx9XSLrbAzjtscWZjEoGKAripuX/PN1SGto458SlGUocU8KT6/ZAfgB8Ae7eAwlfMpCChFA= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 03:33:52 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: mayonesa MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_19773_18760548.1191375232488" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 01:40:38 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_19773_18760548.1191375232488 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline single sample granular/loopy madness at late night... http://www.box.net/shared/3ouaj37z3l raul. -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_19773_18760548.1191375232488 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline single sample granular/loopy madness at late night...

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TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_19773_18760548.1191375232488-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 3 03:14:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55C403C0B7; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 03:14:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1701 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 03:14:39 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=jWB7hFEhs9sO83AtUYGb0SldVHvlYUorsIbG6luVN3M=; b=ZKlDTyX5A+MhXg3igcb7aOho7Yqr4ce3rKXLlwhCz9W3l+WZuVNgwkmKlmujsChf8IwHKqk5m4xSji+osN3r7HmaHRWHFOQLCiKav5v4z0d4IRJnzhip/dMx4I2NEpMS8vTmLC4MFvEPK4f91BID2K7CR9Ug5vgg+PvpAvvNTCU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=oiqls9+dTPGDVuS7DlQTPPN6UhA1TR7UxRNvizALrEJf3cZ1JEO71iKy9bCFRW1CjakurHeD6fymcawIekUYSQkOt4YjIwlKgadLIzhdsrp2HbYJ12ZcPNny7B4NSHR87g9jW+Bs+62j1aG/KB2FEsQrI3BzUZbumzMm3jc/xGs= Message-ID: <588ce11d0710021946v28122a16nf16d5a6454c8e91f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 19:46:16 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mayonesa In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 03:14:40 +0000 (UTC) Thanks! I enjoyed it quite a bit. On 10/2/07, Raul Bonell wrote: > single sample granular/loopy madness at late night... > > http://www.box.net/shared/3ouaj37z3l > > raul. > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra -- Art Simon simart@null.net http://art.simon.tripod.com http://www.myspace.com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 3 06:42:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2805F3C0BD; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 06:42:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 168467 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 06:42:18 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=/uCEJU34pcxs8bxH9iNwc2dVmosbmV1voVNxE9l0WQM=; b=SODPlZE1O1Sb26+rAsIl0Nps+keuZKz4nV0HeJeg1SmKaoY/gzPluZC9QnkVy31shEYId+OxzyeX7tXTJJv70dkvW0a3JvsSJ98qIyyttf8d9wJVIsKN4p1d6UgfFr+1fNp2QTUlP2j2rZ2RqIqJgDMI53vL649949Uk/Xt0EJc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Y7idgmJxFq6v5Kni7FAeMlbauyS1l2K16rigbZsLZ56Hnvz8ZLaB0W7CTTPSLtposB5uCw0Cqd+9Iyq0hFo4nlLXdatdkfblgxoFMVV/6EMfEVGduGbqlDPWd3q/mPFq15kCXaZv3K69KNCTBso8dAojjI1gxQbJT2rGwmFkAJQ= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <697F55FB-9A99-498C-8632-9E022E6448CD@zoekeating.com> References: <697F55FB-9A99-498C-8632-9E022E6448CD@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <60CAB250-CDF5-44D2-8976-56679B3C4FF0@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: little boxes (was survey) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 08:42:11 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 06:42:19 +0000 (UTC) On 3 okt 2007, at 01.36, info at zoekeating wrote: > - using a software looper to control a hardware looper. the audio > is recorded onto a hardware-looping device but all the controls are > sent from the software looper. > > is that a hardware or software preference? > > i'd love to know if anyone else does this. both electrix and bill > walker have told me i might be the only one but i don't believe > that at all. I did that in 2003-2004. It was David Torn who in an e-mail conversation hinted me to run a midi sequencer into the Repeater's midi input and as soon as I checked it out I was bitten by the bug. I was first using an Alesis MMT-8 hardware sequencer, then a synced laptop with Logic, then Ableton Live. When I sold the Repeater I used Ableton Live to send midi commands into the EDP plus Agustuus Loop plug-in inside Live. In late 2004 I assembled enough money to get also a Windows laptop and I started using Mobius. With Mobius I duplicated my MIDI sequences - from controlling the EDP or Augustus - as scripts in Mobius. I'm finding my old two step method (midi sequencer into looper) more powerful, flexible and easier to use compared to writing scripts. The reason is that you can modify the controlling MIDI sequences while they're running. In Live I liked to apply different swing factors to the MIDI parts, for example. If the MIDI was used for unquantized SUSSUbstitute etc it resulted in funny loops with a certain groove to the overdubbed slices of audio. I'm hoping for the future that I may find to use the same mac laptop to run both the Virtual Repeater Pro and the modular MIDI sequencer Numerology. Syncing Numerology after VRP and sending Num's midi sequences into the VRP. Numerology is sooo fun! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 3 12:22:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3C993C0AF; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:22:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <0BF3BE68-6C3C-4FE9-A532-47134DCD976A@gmail.com> References: <02df01c803f7$534782a0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <534F4974-D305-4D32-B88B-A90A2C3DA04B@mac.com> <835E17CE-7A26-4772-9526-C561A8CD00C1@gmail.com> <0BF3BE68-6C3C-4FE9-A532-47134DCD976A@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chuck Silva Subject: Re: Music Tech-Recording Forum Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 08:21:54 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 12:22:21 +0000 (UTC) Wow! How cool is this forum? I can't wait to get to a computer (and find time) to check out what you all have to say. I'm really pleased to find this excellent forum with so many intelligent, friendly and musical Earthlings. Thank you, thank you, thank you all for the groovy web sites and magazines to check out-will keep me busy for a while. Thank you Per Boysen, Jim Richmond, Rainer, Andy Butler, Michael, Rick and others... What a minute! Are we at the Grammy awards? Oh, and thank you Mom and God for.......lol I'll respond to the wonderful questions and suggestions regarding mixing a balanced, punchy and clear bass and drums in a home recorded mix later when I have more time. I am really looking forward to it! Peace. Chuck silva. http://www.myspace.com/chucksilva On Oct 2, 2007, at 4:03 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On 2 okt 2007, at 03.50, Chuck Silva wrote: > >> I'm wondering If anyone can't point me in the direction of a good >> Music Tech-Digital Recording Forum? > > > http://community.sonikmatter.com > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > From member@ebay.com Wed Oct 3 13:25:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 727 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:25:39 UTC Received: from assamail.Assatex.com (assamail.assatex.com [69.18.200.20]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A4B3BF76; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:25:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([62.68.49.204]) by assamail.Assatex.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 3 Oct 2007 08:16:05 -0500 Reply-To: From: "eBay" Subject: Response to Question about Item Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 09:13:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Oct 2007 13:16:05.0640 (UTC) FILETIME=[8DD38080:01C805BF] To: undisclosed-recipients:;
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 3 13:46:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B38C3C00E; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:46:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 402 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 13:46:24 UTC X-Authenticated: #1228034 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+BNh1m4HmB/ilXCOhusbvX4w1xAoFJodVPG1BxhY T/SeH/wsT0q7zu Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <524B9384-037E-4B02-A23C-9A5663A9438C@mac.com> References: <524B9384-037E-4B02-A23C-9A5663A9438C@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <3d9d702b0cfa9733c347632afd0f3abb@gmx.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: nico spahni Subject: Re: new music posted Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 15:40:25 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 13:46:25 +0000 (UTC) Paul, this sounds intriguing (even though I haven't actually listened to any of the music yet :-). Providing the sonic background, or, as you nicely put it, wallpaper for art openings, performances etc. has fascinated me for some time as it transcends the traditional concert setting. Cheers Nico www.recpro.ch www.myspace.com/nicospahni Am 02.10.2007 um 23:08 schrieb Paul Mimlitsch: > Greetings. Uploaded some new recordings to my website << > http://web.mac.com/pmimlitsch >>. > "terrains" and "screech" are from a recent art opening/ reception (Zen > Calligrapher Alok Hsu Kwang-han) I provided sonic wallpaper for. > "droplets" and "droplets3" started as concept based improvs. ie: > recording a series of succesive 9ths. on loop 1 with a series of > succesive of 6ths. running parallel (unsynced/ different lengths) on > loop 2. and then adding/ playing off of how they interact. "kg2" is a > kalimba/ guitar loop improv. and "settling in" is a duo improv. w/ > flautist Meg York recorded at a house concert. Thanks for listening. > - Paul << http://web.mac.com/pmimlitsch >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 3 15:09:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 579643C004; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 15:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:09:47 UTC Message-ID: <20071003100305.h20nt28vcwo4oos4@69.89.21.76> Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:03:05 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: little boxes (was survey) References: <697F55FB-9A99-498C-8632-9E022E6448CD@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: <697F55FB-9A99-498C-8632-9E022E6448CD@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box76.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kevinkissinger.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 15:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Quoting info at zoekeating : > > - using a software looper to control a hardware looper. the audio is > recorded onto a hardware-looping device but all the controls are sent > from the software looper. > > is that a hardware or software preference? > > i'd love to know if anyone else does this. both electrix and bill > walker have told me i might be the only one but i don't believe that at > all. > i want my sub-group dammit! > My direction is to control external hardware via MIDI, and this would include hardware loopers. Ironically, in order to get myself and my equipment to the loopfest (flying via airlines from Kansas City), I have had to resort to VST plugin FX's -- alas, my equipment rack is too heavy for the airlines. The lastest headline on Yahoo: "Airlines loose twice as may bags in 2007" isn't too reassuring. I am designing my own suitcase/packing scheme so that I can carry on my laptop and theremin. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 3 16:11:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FAE53C008; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 16:11:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 610308057-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.188.142 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj0KALZbA0dPQryO/2dsb2JhbACCJASjIA Message-ID: <4703BF2B.1030205@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:11:23 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LD Subject: andy butler live looping on the radio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0judC.A.FUF.s87AHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 16:11:24 +0000 (UTC) andy butler interviewed for local radio hit this link http://futurefmplatform.podbean.com/ look for Program 8 and it's about 32 mins in interview, edp demo and (probably) an album track From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 3 17:21:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B2F83C008; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 17:21:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20071003132144.O7YBC.81625.root@fepweb07> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:21:44 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new music posted Cc: Paul Mimlitsch In-Reply-To: <524B9384-037E-4B02-A23C-9A5663A9438C@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: <7WGBmC.A.gS.s-8AHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 17:21:49 +0000 (UTC) Enjoyed 'em. Thanks fer sharin'. tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn ---- Paul Mimlitsch wrote:=20 > Greetings. Uploaded some new recordings to my website << http://=20 > web.mac.com/pmimlitsch >>. > "terrains" and "screech" are from a recent art opening/ reception =20 > (Zen Calligrapher Alok Hsu Kwang-han) I provided sonic wallpaper =20 > for. "droplets" and "droplets3" started as concept based improvs. =20 > ie: recording a series of succesive 9ths. on loop 1 with a series of =20 > succesive of 6ths. running parallel (unsynced/ different lengths) on =20 > loop 2. and then adding/ playing off of how they interact. "kg2" is a =20 > kalimba/ guitar loop improv. and "settling in" is a duo improv. w/ =20 > flautist Meg York recorded at a house concert. Thanks for listening. > - Paul << http://web.mac.com/pmimlitsch >> >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 3 17:22:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EC0E3BF81; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 17:22:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: <4703BF2B.1030205@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4703BF2B.1030205@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: RE: andy butler live looping on the radio Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:22:45 -0700 Message-ID: <009401c805e2$03f736e0$0be5a4a0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgF2Wy2FH1HgjlQTaKgKJTcT3WUSAACIuXw Content-Language: en-us X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: Dd2090da5000001df.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: <-fktiD.A.qa.r_8AHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 17:22:51 +0000 (UTC) Excellent ! -----Original Message----- From: andy butler [mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 9:11 AM To: LD Subject: andy butler live looping on the radio andy butler interviewed for local radio hit this link http://futurefmplatform.podbean.com/ look for Program 8 and it's about 32 mins in interview, edp demo and (probably) an album track From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 3 17:55:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD3F63BFAB; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 17:55:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 721 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:55:47 UTC Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [68.108.90.89] From: Chris D'Errico To: Subject: Akai Headrush problems Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 10:43:39 -0700 Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Oct 2007 17:43:44.0786 (UTC) FILETIME=[F1D2B720:01C805E4] Resent-Message-ID: <3dxE1C.A.5WC.ke9AHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 17:55:48 +0000 (UTC) Has anyone ever had any problems with the "stomp" buttons on the Akai E2 He= adrush looper/delay pedal? as in they don't work properly? Mine was fine un= til a few weeks ago when the buttons you need to step on to start/record/st= op a loop started to not respond so well. What a lameass design-- I hate pe= dals with this design anyway-- it's not a "pedal" per say (like the BOSS lo= op models have), they just give you 2 small silver buttons to stomp on. I t= ried tightening them, but no difference. I haven't abused this unit at all,= either. I guess this thing just isn't made very durable. Probably going to= have to return it, just wondering if anyone else has used this product & h= ad similar problems. I've tried to contact Akai & I haven't got an answer y= et. Thanks,=20 Chris D. _________________________________________________________________ Boo!=A0Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 3 23:20:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3ED03BFAA; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 23:20:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 405 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 03 Oct 2007 23:20:22 UTC Message-ID: <70f68b660710031613g6f83f923i56adae0043df7eae@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 17:13:34 -0600 From: "holotone@gmail.com" Sender: cole@holotone.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Noise / Ambient / Circuit Bent Looping MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7545_20670515.1191453214881" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 25b60d0b350c00d7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 23:20:22 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_7545_20670515.1191453214881 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In the context of ambient / noise / drone / bleepblorp / circuit bent music, which looper gives the best bang for the buck? I've heard good things about the Boss RC-20; Any yays or nays out there? What are its relative strengths and weaknesses? Currently, I'm "looping" using the Korg KP3's built in sound banks, so as you can imagine, really anything is going to be an improvement. Thanks! -- ~holotone http://holotone.net/ ------=_Part_7545_20670515.1191453214881 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline In the context of ambient / noise / drone / bleepblorp / circuit bent music, which looper gives the best bang for the buck? I've heard good things about the Boss RC-20; Any yays or nays out there? What are its relative strengths and weaknesses?

Currently, I'm "looping" using the Korg KP3's built in sound banks, so as you can imagine, really anything is going to be an improvement.

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http://holotone.net/ ------=_Part_7545_20670515.1191453214881-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 3 23:26:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E12A83BFB4; Wed, 3 Oct 2007 23:26:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47042517.2000108@hevanet.com> Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:26:15 -0700 From: David Auker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: andy butler live looping on the radio References: <4703BF2B.1030205@tiscali.co.uk> <009401c805e2$03f736e0$0be5a4a0$@com> In-Reply-To: <009401c805e2$03f736e0$0be5a4a0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 23:26:08 +0000 (UTC) Masterful! (However, the original message got trapped by my provider's spam filter...(thanks to Qua Veda for responding to Andy's post!). David > > > -----Original Message----- > From: andy butler [mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 9:11 AM > To: LD > Subject: andy butler live looping on the radio > > andy butler interviewed for local radio > > hit this link > > http://futurefmplatform.podbean.com/ > > look for Program 8 > > and it's about 32 mins in > > interview, > edp demo > and (probably) an album track > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 03:48:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A0003BF96; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 03:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 14058 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 04 Oct 2007 03:48:47 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <4E1728AA-E008-4D3B-8436-14C0991FCD76@blueyonder.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: The woodshed Subject: programmable delay? Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 00:54:25 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <2HnTmB.A.zHB.gKGBHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 03:48:48 +0000 (UTC) hi, Is there a hardware delay unit that allows storage of delay times? Like the Boss giga delay but with 'proper' patch presets, able to store about 30 or 40 presets? At the moment I have to have several giga delays. The zoom g2 does allow storage, but the delay times cannot be divided beyond 1 decimal point which is limiting. leon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 03:51:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEBE63BFA0; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 03:51:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <4E1728AA-E008-4D3B-8436-14C0991FCD76@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <4E1728AA-E008-4D3B-8436-14C0991FCD76@blueyonder.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-73-561825075 Message-Id: <066E9DD3-8607-437A-9368-4735EDB94CDA@jamesrichmond.com> From: James Richmond Subject: Re: programmable delay? Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 23:51:46 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 03:51:52 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-73-561825075 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Echo pro rackmount does this. Jim Rchmond > > hi, > > Is there a hardware delay unit that allows storage of delay times? > Like the Boss giga delay but with 'proper' patch presets, able to > store about 30 or 40 presets? At the moment I have to have several > giga delays. The zoom g2 does allow storage, but the delay times > cannot be divided beyond 1 decimal point which is limiting. > > > leon --Apple-Mail-73-561825075 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Echo pro rackmount does = this.

Jim = Rchmond


hi,


Is there a hardware delay unit that = allows storage of delay times? Like the Boss giga delay but with = 'proper' patch presets, able to store about 30 or 40 presets? At the = moment I have to have several giga delays. The zoom g2 does allow = storage, but the delay times cannot be divided beyond 1 decimal point = which is limiting.



leon


= --Apple-Mail-73-561825075-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 04:05:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD5563BF9F; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 04:05:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 00:04:52 -0400 From: Warren Sirota Subject: RE: andy butler live looping on the radio In-reply-to: <4703BF2B.1030205@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <033601c8063b$b709a980$4b02a8c0@warren5d67d038> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thread-index: AcgF2ByK9zC92FDmSlypcMW4NBu7pwAY29Ww Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 04:05:51 +0000 (UTC) Great job, Andy. Nice demo piece, and excellent radio presence. > -----Original Message----- > From: andy butler [mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 12:11 PM > To: LD > Subject: andy butler live looping on the radio > > andy butler interviewed for local radio > > hit this link > > http://futurefmplatform.podbean.com/ > > look for Program 8 > > and it's about 32 mins in > > interview, > edp demo > and (probably) an album track > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 06:50:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AA943BF9B; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 06:50:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: programmable delay? Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:51:21 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <001e01c80652$f94ac150$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcgGOXjS96kHdyl4RFenv1bPF+hORAAGWcgA In-Reply-To: <4E1728AA-E008-4D3B-8436-14C0991FCD76@blueyonder.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OIReNxqd3g== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: <_TpnBC.A.wdG.T1IBHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 06:50:59 +0000 (UTC) about any hardware unit...which form factor do you want? The TC D2 comes to mind, as well as the TC 2290, or about any Eventide. Rainer=20 > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: The woodshed [mailto:woodshed@blueyonder.co.uk]=20 > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Oktober 2007 01:54 > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: programmable delay? >=20 >=20 > hi, >=20 > Is there a hardware delay unit that allows storage of delay times? =20 > Like the Boss giga delay but with 'proper' patch presets,=20 > able to store about 30 or 40 presets? At the moment I have to=20 > have several giga delays. The zoom g2 does allow storage, but=20 > the delay times cannot be divided beyond 1 decimal point=20 > which is limiting. >=20 >=20 > leon >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 08:34:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DD963BF98; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:34:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <001e01c80652$f94ac150$1001a8c0@succubus> References: <001e01c80652$f94ac150$1001a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3C255553-4AAC-46AA-8B71-DA73F427216C@blueyonder.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: The woodshed Subject: Re: AW: programmable delay? Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:34:41 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <3uBE6D.A.QQ.kWKBHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:34:45 +0000 (UTC) I should have been more explicit, I was thinking more along the stomp =20= box form, as I will need 5 units. I just wondered if there was a reasonably cheap programmable delay =20 of up to about 8 seconds lurking unnoticed in a cheap stomp box =20 somewhere, like the zoom, which would be perfect (despite less than =20 stellar sound quality) with a higher resolution on the delay times. leon On 4 Oct 2007, at 07:51, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > about any hardware unit...which form factor do you want? > The TC D2 comes to mind, as well as the TC 2290, or about any =20 > Eventide. > > Rainer > >> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: The woodshed [mailto:woodshed@blueyonder.co.uk] >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Oktober 2007 01:54 >> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Betreff: programmable delay? >> >> >> hi, >> >> Is there a hardware delay unit that allows storage of delay times? >> Like the Boss giga delay but with 'proper' patch presets, >> able to store about 30 or 40 presets? At the moment I have to >> have several giga delays. The zoom g2 does allow storage, but >> the delay times cannot be divided beyond 1 decimal point >> which is limiting. >> >> >> leon >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 09:00:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F4CC3BF81; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:00:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 610546538-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.176.94 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4HAG5IBEdPQrBe/2dsb2JhbACCKKMT Message-ID: <4704ABAB.1060802@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:00:27 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: programmable delay? References: <001e01c80652$f94ac150$1001a8c0@succubus> <3C255553-4AAC-46AA-8B71-DA73F427216C@blueyonder.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <3C255553-4AAC-46AA-8B71-DA73F427216C@blueyonder.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:00:25 +0000 (UTC) So the stomp box requirement is a cost thing? if so Check out the Behringer Virtualizer. Dead cheap. Has 2 delays accurately programmable up to 5s. (it's a stereo delay, but each side is individually controllable) Sound quality is excellent. Well, maybe you want one or 2 of those combined with something else with the whole 8s andy butler The woodshed wrote: > > > I should have been more explicit, I was thinking more along the stomp > box form, as I will need 5 units. > I just wondered if there was a reasonably cheap programmable delay of > up to about 8 seconds lurking unnoticed in a cheap stomp box somewhere, > like the zoom, which would be perfect (despite less than stellar sound > quality) with a higher resolution on the delay times. > > leon > On 4 Oct 2007, at 07:51, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > >> about any hardware unit...which form factor do you want? >> The TC D2 comes to mind, as well as the TC 2290, or about any Eventide. >> >> Rainer >> >>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >>> Von: The woodshed [mailto:woodshed@blueyonder.co.uk] >>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Oktober 2007 01:54 >>> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>> Betreff: programmable delay? >>> >>> >>> hi, >>> >>> Is there a hardware delay unit that allows storage of delay times? >>> Like the Boss giga delay but with 'proper' patch presets, >>> able to store about 30 or 40 presets? At the moment I have to >>> have several giga delays. The zoom g2 does allow storage, but >>> the delay times cannot be divided beyond 1 decimal point >>> which is limiting. >>> >>> >>> leon >>> >>> >> >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 11:39:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A31253BF94; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 11:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3621 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 04 Oct 2007 11:39:12 UTC Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 06:40:53 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to Afterglow, Galactic Travels, and The AM/FM Show To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <4704C335.8020301@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 11:39:12 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at: http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://galactictravels.info ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long Special focus on Norwegian record label Origo Sound. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Communion" by Current For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#oct Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, on the internet, and in High Definition Radio at 88.1 FM. THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, September 22 at 6:00 am. I will continue the special on E-dition Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. I will continue with issue 15 out of 16 so this special is drawing to a close soon. What's next? ;-) Tune in to WMUH Allentown at 91.7 FM, broadcasting from the campus of Muhlenberg College. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. WMUH's web site is http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh ====================================================================== All times are EDT / GMT-4. Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 11:42:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E97EA3BF98; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 11:42:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 744 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 04 Oct 2007 11:42:22 UTC From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: Subject: RE: mayonesa Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 13:29:55 +0200 Message-ID: <002701c80679$e3b8aec0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01C8068A.A7417EC0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcgF6Ac3z8wkEnGpQRmbBWcTA540tgAkb01w X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 11:42:23 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C8068A.A7417EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit way cool Raul !!! how did you do that? -Michael www.michaelpeters.de _____ From: Raul Bonell [mailto:raul.bonell@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 3:34 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: mayonesa single sample granular/loopy madness at late night... http://www.box.net/shared/3ouaj37z3l raul. -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C8068A.A7417EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
way cool Raul !!! how did you do=20 that? 
 
-Michael www.michaelpeters.de

From: Raul Bonell=20 [mailto:raul.bonell@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, = 2007=20 3:34 AM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject:=20 mayonesa

single sample granular/loopy madness at late = night...

http://www.box.net/shared/3= ouaj37z3l

raul.
--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web= 2/tpo
Chain=20 Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.comTPO at=20 myspace: http://www.myspace.co= m/theplayingorchestra=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C8068A.A7417EC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 12:17:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92CA33BF90; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 12:17:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=BAfawa83ZzibyA6Sl2fc+1IrCpTNbVggb8vTULEFu3s=; b=AKiSxnGRscx8lxhILAGfAqMT5+gocU62VfcZtrOh5Ft13JSOposUbiqo+xTSz4We7e6yG2vccXkRBrgRAuhrVVBFYzt8+ueGUj1bRJUbnfpkmTl4QfGX0Nw4OVPhcAOUYbp6hc5bLjQKUMh9gX2oO863SxkSbJWtj7P039qVias= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=elCOlkWnA9+ca3qDp2VXBZfPu4lwxNUPWRcuNbaWg4y3mW9+t4W9psbnj42x/Y4BLf1NBqntqTy/1ieA6qAqyP0gdvkuN+SnSTtAihaEV8dVvSEXxjZ/m7ZnjMRdQ2YibS9IDVTF9Dgx1z3RKB/kiUW42GjjR0rGlrFZz4YaMDQ= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:17:27 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mayonesa In-Reply-To: <002701c80679$e3b8aec0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_26561_31273813.1191500247650" References: <002701c80679$e3b8aec0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 12:17:30 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_26561_31273813.1191500247650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline ah! ... joking eh?... your granular works inspired this! ... Bidule ... thanks for listening! ra=FCl. 2007/10/4, Michael Peters : > > way cool Raul !!! how did you do that? > > -Michael www.michaelpeters.de > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Raul Bonell [mailto:raul.bonell@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 03, 2007 3:34 AM > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Subject:* mayonesa > > single sample granular/loopy madness at late night... > > http://www.box.net/shared/3ouaj37z3l > > raul. > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > > --=20 The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_26561_31273813.1191500247650 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline ah! ... joking eh?...  your granular works inspired this!
... Bidul= e ...
thanks for listening!
ra=FCl.


2007/10/4, Michael Peters <m= p@mpeters.de >:
way c= ool Raul !!! how did you do=20 that? 
 

single sample granular/loopy madness at late night...

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raul.

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The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo=
Chain=20 Tape Collective: http://www.ct-c= ollective.com
TPO at=20 myspace: http://ww= w.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra=20



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TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra<= /a> ------=_Part_26561_31273813.1191500247650-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 12:54:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A1013BF8E; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 12:54:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4704E45F.4080805@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:02:23 +0200 From: van Sinn Reply-To: vansinn@post.cybercity.dk Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: programmable delay? References: <001e01c80652$f94ac150$1001a8c0@succubus> <3C255553-4AAC-46AA-8B71-DA73F427216C@blueyonder.co.uk> <4704ABAB.1060802@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <4704ABAB.1060802@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 12:54:48 +0000 (UTC) andy butler wrote: > So the stomp box requirement is a cost thing? > > if so > > Check out the Behringer Virtualizer. > Dead cheap. > Has 2 delays accurately programmable up to 5s. > (it's a stereo delay, but each side is individually controllable) > Sound quality is excellent. > > Well, maybe you want one or 2 of those combined with something else > with the whole 8s > > andy butler A few of those combined with a rackmounted FX S/R controller (Rocktron, Vodoolabs..) might make a nice midi controlled muli-delay setup. On a side note.. 'fun' how Behringer ofted gets discreminated, while in reality by far most of their products are actually pretty good. > The woodshed wrote: > >> >> >> I should have been more explicit, I was thinking more along the stomp >> box form, as I will need 5 units. >> I just wondered if there was a reasonably cheap programmable delay of >> up to about 8 seconds lurking unnoticed in a cheap stomp box >> somewhere, like the zoom, which would be perfect (despite less than >> stellar sound quality) with a higher resolution on the delay times. >> >> leon >> On 4 Oct 2007, at 07:51, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: >> >>> about any hardware unit...which form factor do you want? >>> The TC D2 comes to mind, as well as the TC 2290, or about any Eventide. >>> >>> Rainer >>> >>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >>>> Von: The woodshed [mailto:woodshed@blueyonder.co.uk] >>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. Oktober 2007 01:54 >>>> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>> Betreff: programmable delay? >>>> >>>> >>>> hi, >>>> >>>> Is there a hardware delay unit that allows storage of delay times? >>>> Like the Boss giga delay but with 'proper' patch presets, >>>> able to store about 30 or 40 presets? At the moment I have to >>>> have several giga delays. The zoom g2 does allow storage, but >>>> the delay times cannot be divided beyond 1 decimal point >>>> which is limiting. >>>> >>>> >>>> leon >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > . > -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 13:13:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C5773BF92; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 13:13:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=L+sfLvsRseLYVQA6gyzsxRj1p473lIHDboPBFsHCPgUqB8GpcjkkVyVn1xxQg6C8sGfdhximVcYKXJzFsDtCAJG6X4CB0qak2qCpYZUh+0fqYu0BkM8cMV+HTGo3nXwdSQmevsdNyHu6iSGtbKTPgu6henuXI+dESqL3Pdp0a/g=; X-YMail-OSG: Ye70df8VM1n1u5nqJS.YyKJ_xmkEKclmPXuY4kpDGe7EOowiM4qgL1krrBK2O12VZkPHSGXAjz8CKD7HyCCzGs5Tjpxf8gy5MYEQ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 06:13:01 -0700 (PDT) From: richard gryffin Subject: EDP/fcb1010 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-8744306-1191503581=:90322" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <650078.90322.qm@web63505.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6EXL9B.A.i-H.ebOBHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 13:13:02 +0000 (UTC) --0-8744306-1191503581=:90322 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have encountered a problem controlling my EDP with an fcb1010 midi controller. I used the PC editor as suggested to program the fcb1010 and after the third try with sysex send.... got control of the plex....not too bad for a newbie. I have started with the basic 7 footswitch commands and they all initiate when pressed. The problem I am having is this: I power on and record the first loop....no problems and all functions available thru the pedal and EDP...everything works as it should until I reset record on the EDP using the midi foot controller or the front panel and start a new loop.... it plays only one cycle of the loop and then stops. I have reset the EDP to factory defaults to make sure i havent inadvertantly changed a paramater... . then i also discovered you have to reset the echoplex presets.... thru further experimentation i have found that apparently the initial use of the midi controller changes a preset parameter in the echoplex after the first loop..which one i cant figure ....i have established this by resetting the presets after disconnecting the fcb1010 and using the echoplex footswitch.. once i do this everything is back to normal with the plex...as long as i use the the gibson pedal....when i go back to the midi pedal the problem comes back...what plex paramater will stop the loop after one cycle? and how is the midi pedal changing the plex paramaters / presets when all i have programmed in the pedal are note ons for the echoplex 7 front panel buttons? i know im a newbie but i have scoured the files and see nothing related to this so....any help sent my way will be greatly appreciated firehawks --------------------------------- Need a vacation? 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I have encountered a problem controlling my EDP with an fcb1010 midi
controller. I used the PC editor as suggested to program the
fcb1010 and after the third try with sysex send.... got
control of the plex....not too bad for a newbie. I have started with the basic
7 footswitch commands and they all initiate when pressed. The
problem I am having is this:

I power on and record the first loop....no problems and all functions
available thru the pedal and EDP...everything works as it should until I
reset record on the EDP using the midi foot controller or
the front panel and start a new loop.... it plays only one cycle of the
loop and then stops. I have reset the EDP to factory defaults to
make sure i havent inadvertantly changed a paramater... . then i also
discovered you have to reset the echoplex presets....
thru further experimentation i have found that apparently the
initial use of the midi controller changes a preset parameter in the
echoplex after the first loop..which one i cant figure ....i have
established this by resetting the presets after disconnecting the
fcb1010 and using the echoplex footswitch.. once i do this everything
is back to normal with the plex...as long as i use the the gibson pedal....when i go back to the midi pedal the problem comes back...what plex paramater will stop the loop after one cycle? and how is the midi pedal changing the plex paramaters / presets when all i have programmed in the pedal are note ons for the echoplex 7 front panel buttons?

i know im a newbie but i have scoured the files and see nothing
related to this so....any help sent my way will be greatly
appreciated


firehawks

Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. --0-8744306-1191503581=:90322-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 13:33:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8437B3BF89; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 13:33:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 608799119 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: behringer again again (wasprogrammable delay?) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:33:30 +0100 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7205719107@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <4704E45F.4080805@post.cybercity.dk> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: behringer again again (wasprogrammable delay?) Thread-Index: AcgGiycMD25i/3LJQmuPp0EascMcSw== References: <4704E45F.4080805@post.cybercity.dk> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Oct 2007 13:33:32.0092 (UTC) FILETIME=[27F927C0:01C8068B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 13:33:37 +0000 (UTC) >>On a side note.. 'fun' how Behringer ofted gets discreminated, while in reality by far most of their products are actually pretty good.<< at risk of inviting a libel case from them, the reason that most behringer products are actually pretty good is that the designs, inside & very often outside too, are nobbled from other manufacturers (boss, EHX, mackie & the rest).=20 so uli doesn't have to pay for R&D or industrial design except on a very few product lines that are unique (apparently) to behringer, e.g. the fcb1010. I have no issue with the reliability or quality of the products- indeed, I own several of their mixers & an fcb1010 myself.=20 I think for those of us that are generally comfortable with the build quality & reliability, the remaining nasty taste is due to the rarified atmosphere of the moral high-ground. there are some pictures on the music-thing blogsite with the EHX & boss units next to their behringer, er, ringers. the words "cheeky" & "bastards" come to mind. it's that blatant. since these pics were posted, the boss-a-like range has had it's appearance changed to make it less boss-like. I don't know why- yakuza? :-) take a look at this: http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2005/01/behringers-dirt-cheap-stompboxes- look.html duncan. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 14:51:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 580F53BF87; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 10:51:20 EDT Subject: Re: mayonesa To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cdd.1e45f4fd.343657e8_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: <-r2_OC.A.vdE.u3PBHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:51:27 +0000 (UTC) --part1_cdd.1e45f4fd.343657e8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/2/07 9:40:50 PM, raul.bonell@gmail.com writes: > http://www.box.net/shared/3ouaj37z3l > raul....very nice.....somewhat of a departure from your former music.....i wish it were longer.....michael "Who needs a six pac when ya got a keg!".....scoots galore "THOUGHTS ON EXCERCISE" www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com --part1_cdd.1e45f4fd.343657e8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 10/2/07 9:40:50 PM, raul.bonell@gmail.com writes:


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raul....very nice.....somewhat of a departure from your former music.....= i wish it were longer.....michael




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See what's=20= new at http://www.aol.com --part1_cdd.1e45f4fd.343657e8_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 14:58:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EB8F3BF8D; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 10:58:04 EDT Subject: Re: andy butler live looping on the radio To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ce5.1d6d77ad.3436597c_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:58:18 +0000 (UTC) --part1_ce5.1d6d77ad.3436597c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit great interview!.....i could just picture you there with your edps, sg, vortex, groovey pantaloons and my shoes!.....keep flyin that LIVE LOOPING FLAG!.....good stuff!.....michael "Who needs a six pac when ya got a keg!".....scoots galore "THOUGHTS ON EXCERCISE" www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com --part1_ce5.1d6d77ad.3436597c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable great interview!.....i could just pictu= re you there with your edps, sg, vortex, groovey pantaloons and my shoes!...= ..keep flyin that LIVE LOOPING FLAG!.....good stuff!.....michael




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See what's=20= new at http://www.aol.com --part1_ce5.1d6d77ad.3436597c_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 15:00:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C8AF3BF8F; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:00:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3463 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:00:56 UTC Message-ID: <33120.167.83.10.20.1191506587.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7205719107@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.via com.com> References: <4704E45F.4080805@post.cybercity.dk> <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7205719107@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 10:03:07 -0400 (EDT) Subject: OT: Eno and bargains From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32166 32167] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:00:57 +0000 (UTC) I'm a happy camper! We had bake/book/music sale in our company library and I was able to pick up Begegnungen II and Thursday Afternoon for $1 each and they're in stellar shape. :) Ahh the beauty of used CD's... Plish From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 15:33:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 703103BF8B; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 623 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:33:12 UTC Message-ID: <47050543.8020901@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:22:43 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Noise / Ambient / Circuit Bent Looping References: <20071004131303.4C4A03BF97@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20071004131303.4C4A03BF97@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Though it's an unfashionable dinosaur and with almost none of the features of the RC-20, I personally would recommend the Digitech PDS pedals, either the 2-second or the exponentially pricier 8-second. They have a really tasty sound quality, and the ability to shift pitch w/delay time (two octaves from extreme to extreme) lends itself extremely well to creating interesting noises. They also can be tweaked internally for longer delays/loops, with lower resolution as the additional results which can also be a nice thing. Good sound references are Bill Frisell's older stuff (check the live record with Joey Baron and Kermitt Driscoll), and Sonic Youth's Lee Renaldo (who uses the 20/20 chorus/flange/echo, which is exceptionally tweakable). The 2-second versions, the PDS 1002/2000, are so cheap on Ebay that you could pick up three or four of them for the same price as an RC-20 and arm yourself with some real hell-raising potential. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > In the context of ambient / noise / drone / bleepblorp / circuit bent > music, which looper gives the best bang for the buck? I've heard good > things about the Boss RC-20; Any yays or nays out there? What are its > relative strengths and weaknesses? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 15:33:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 04CCF3BF85; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:33:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=b4gpkpTVFoxvi3njNEsjd6mlh5Y6kZLd19uD/of7vnU=; b=qAn5mbGmOIL50LSOdnGpY20LPR+DgACL1Oy699NFqqDgbekwxSu8JQVhQcQrisSt/IUmMS7qo7Rxmwl/y8IUkap+TU2OY7G827s421oTQjzMkC85mdJuymQbP2DMoRwCqCNIj4TlP/tzB/9F3Rs53vdmgI984+CNHqnKPVpbN7o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cNIi4OS9THri1eqInEHtBXaeKNL893eYHv6xwsU1mFkEJ+VqqAnmy/eGxYkvWYVZ2KFzUy0BxvyrtVpvOw4QLZ7s8iOYldDdu1S0LHTmRUCiT5id562cb76VjqPQaLDbquF28fyNBsUCCsmLjVew3KqyuTVRhN6/fVsa4lu9Du8= Message-ID: <588ce11d0710040833j7563856fj8bf1a742a35c40bd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 08:33:46 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: behringer again again (wasprogrammable delay?) In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7205719107@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4704E45F.4080805@post.cybercity.dk> <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7205719107@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:33:48 +0000 (UTC) I can see both sides of the "Evil Behringer discussion," but this example may not support your argument On 10/4/07, Goddard, Duncan wrote: > so uli doesn't have to pay for R&D or industrial design except on a very > few product lines that are unique (apparently) to behringer, e.g. the > fcb1010. > Actually, it seems as though the innards of the Behringer pedals are completely different than their visual twins. According to the blog "What they've presumably done is create a basic digital effects circuit (not too different from the Digital Stompbox). Every pedal probably has the same innards, with a different ROM chip, different knobs and a different colour box." That is very different from Reverse Engineering, and is in fact quite similar to the way Ikea operates. As an aside, I just bought an Ikea bedside dresser thing the other day for $35. It was marked "Made in Denmark" on the side. It says something when you can pay Danish workers comfortable wages, good benefits and ship the thing to the US, sell it for $35 and still make a profit. Maybe the end of the world isn't quite so near : ) -- Art Simon simart@null.net http://art.simon.tripod.com http://www.myspace.com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 15:53:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 842DD3BF8E; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:53:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 43304 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:53:33 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0710040833j7563856fj8bf1a742a35c40bd@mail.gmail.com> References: <4704E45F.4080805@post.cybercity.dk> <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7205719107@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> <588ce11d0710040833j7563856fj8bf1a742a35c40bd@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-75-605128277 Message-Id: <69456186-E111-4B1A-AAAF-B25BBECF2B2B@jamesrichmond.com> From: James Richmond Subject: Re: behringer again again (wasprogrammable delay?) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 11:53:29 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:53:33 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-75-605128277 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Oct 4, 2007, at 11:33 AM, Art Simon wrote: > That is very different from Reverse > Engineering, and is in fact quite similar to the way Ikea operates. Their copy of the Ebtech cable tester is pretty much a direct copy both in looks and electronics. I've opened them up side by side. Jim --Apple-Mail-75-605128277 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Oct 4, 2007, at = 11:33 AM, Art Simon wrote:

=A0That is very different from = Reverse

Engineering, and is in fact quite similar to the way Ikea = operates.


Their copy of the = Ebtech cable tester is pretty much a direct copy both in looks and = electronics.
I've opened them up side by side.

Jim
= --Apple-Mail-75-605128277-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 16:32:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2E873BF84; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:32:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=SQi4AoE/RuI9aFHm9q4W5AHoKmUg6h7KI8uiQ9Vye+8=; b=WCe2jcm8rsE5DSBr5ahvoph3inezJrlXOw0LRH1g8hA5lhMMyBeMEMvpn4f/dLS73WR4BjNNB+vH/mIno+ugVyu6ZwKXG7lYie5zJd0uCYBdlCml3ITx+b0gETAZl37wo4wx1UofC8i+a24+0kQr/mW7FYa+QMQnsFNZKRcWkX4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pQML1pBb79p110ptrdRw0SudIpmgoT2geh8bSv+hW8oTZoGKhZU5XhfP5ICOLI1Zg5iqXnrFnGm9ObhpewWFE1ykXxvVJiGFWx20ioq4kf0xm0siRYPWNdYyTRQmERbkxhDBk+ZCVCqCMFcRPlnzQx8Oa+gDRcU56RbvGnT0LEI= Message-ID: <588ce11d0710040932v3a9085f2n6d324a1bb64d586a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:32:48 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: behringer again again (wasprogrammable delay?) In-Reply-To: <69456186-E111-4B1A-AAAF-B25BBECF2B2B@jamesrichmond.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <4704E45F.4080805@post.cybercity.dk> <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7205719107@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> <588ce11d0710040833j7563856fj8bf1a742a35c40bd@mail.gmail.com> <69456186-E111-4B1A-AAAF-B25BBECF2B2B@jamesrichmond.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:32:52 +0000 (UTC) I guess I'm saying that _this particular example_ isn't reverse engineering. It does seem as though Behringer is guilty of ripping off other companies designs in other examples. But in this example, Behringer just seems to be using common componentry to keep costs down, which is actually _good_ engineering. They aren't really "ripping off Electro-Harmonix" any more than Line6 rips off Mesa-Boogie with their amp emulation. (Or Mobius rips off the EDP to bring this back on topic : ) On 10/4/07, James Richmond wrote: > Their copy of the Ebtech cable tester is pretty much a direct copy both in > looks and electronics. > I've opened them up side by side. > > Jim -- Art Simon simart@null.net http://art.simon.tripod.com http://www.myspace.com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 16:35:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 389753BF8D; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:35:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=RoJ5KAlXVfPplQFIvmHzzsnOxbo4SXbw5s43S6fDmuU=; b=llKFpcKPNle6wtQrntCpTKWNytUZNf5jMlGweZsQyZqsrvQodeJ5Nx/ey1on2FkIf4GcUoQXS4B1vRntSKlwynR8hITI2ioJpgD18ArAswokyZvoW+3VTsW++uylKr54RKQDy+qd1yZ6xRYfQ1xq3CvXHaxEyNp8Y5ERN7LkGno= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=ePYsFnTvGdvzwEI0VaFDHfppmeJOg27JsmnzrD82BOwKEreAEN+S+H0RadKBAqZnM2YoLKn7EteHJuqDXTzv3bpe1OFu8klthLLb5glEC4UrW/Or8+NODGH6ov4pu8uSUTXlck/pjVV7Tjl+PwvVVrmvyJYzSeDxPrMS8yXKOg0= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:35:15 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: OT:guitar-X-s/pdif MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_27921_285087.1191515715455" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:35:18 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_27921_285087.1191515715455 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline may somebody recommend me a cheap/clean way to convert directly the output of my guitar into the s/pdif input of a laptop? no midi needed since i own other midi interfaces. thanks masters! raul. -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_27921_285087.1191515715455 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline may somebody recommend me a
cheap/clean way to convert directly
the output of my guitar into the s/pdif input
of a laptop? no midi needed since i own
other midi interfaces.

thanks masters!
raul.

--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_27921_285087.1191515715455-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 16:37:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11EF83BF8E; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:37:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0710040932v3a9085f2n6d324a1bb64d586a@mail.gmail.com> References: <4704E45F.4080805@post.cybercity.dk> <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7205719107@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> <588ce11d0710040833j7563856fj8bf1a742a35c40bd@mail.gmail.com> <69456186-E111-4B1A-AAAF-B25BBECF2B2B@jamesrichmond.com> <588ce11d0710040932v3a9085f2n6d324a1bb64d586a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-77-607760826 Message-Id: <2E6C98DD-1C89-4EF8-9411-1F8A3E06F942@jamesrichmond.com> From: James Richmond Subject: Re: behringer again again (wasprogrammable delay?) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 12:37:21 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:37:26 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-77-607760826 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Don't get me started.... :-) Jim On Oct 4, 2007, at 12:32 PM, Art Simon wrote: > Line6 rips off > Mesa-Boogie with their amp emulation. --Apple-Mail-77-607760826 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Don't get me started.... :-)

Jim

On Oct 4, 2007, at 12:32 PM, Art Simon wrote:

Line6 rips off

Mesa-Boogie with their amp emulation.


--Apple-Mail-77-607760826-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 17:21:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3049A3BF80; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:21:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1736 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:21:36 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=bg2Jfos7803j3MN30Xlptmfhwp6VYE1oY6WMTk7VCTY=; b=TtbzazTb58PQKInpwrrmiJoweK5b5vldGsojrt+x/yd/L2bBxPOjSNrNKSgEJNifIWYUSGV+MgtPfKkGKhL5hrfy0ddP2xnwFReBfNi19N6oeNr8IuMfypUOSDz60u0GDFGgJvU+G8B6GnVJERsXCFPYC4P2GGmXKEu3vVS1WiA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pQ/Msiny01nGc1zQ/Hti9uini0Y0GjD4H1ksyO9O2cqTSBu0T4fLUlc45ICz/x46NHDfOIDrg8T3rs0VRVsy1EkVnjfFDxZcbWL/IjMQWlgkN6BwFFzE494pTqnYRN191SOFZ76g/NnvWxGUjxu27KgWcYWRGRmaSZQmkX1Snhk= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 12:52:38 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT:guitar-X-s/pdif In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:21:37 +0000 (UTC) Find a digitech RP2000. It's got S/PDIF out. I'm not sure how cheap they are these days. Check some of the other Digitech multifx. I think the GNX series has s/pdif too. but I'm not positive. Unfortunately, they aren't cheap. But they are kinda cool. :) Tony On 10/4/07, Raul Bonell wrote: > may somebody recommend me a > cheap/clean way to convert directly > the output of my guitar into the s/pdif input > of a laptop? no midi needed since i own > other midi interfaces. > > thanks masters! > raul. > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 17:27:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 106883BF89; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:27:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4032 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:27:05 UTC Message-Id: <200710041619.l94GJpRs035454@mail.cruzio.com> Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: Programmable Delay Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 09:19:55 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Thread-Index: AcgGnpqVvBUI+0cqQFG6VpO7UOuX4gAApRjQ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:27:05 +0000 (UTC) I just had a chance to play the new TC nova delay, essentially a 2290 in a floor box. It's programmable but I'm not exactly sure how many presets are available. God it sounds great though, with the ability to filter the delay to sound more like analogue or tape, and it has a unique tap function that allows you to silently set the tempo by holding down the tap button and playing a rhythmic phrase, which the Nova delay analizes and turns in to a tempo setting. You can also set the LCD to read milliseconds or BPM's...sweet. OH yes, and the sound quality is of course , first rate, with that classic 2290 ducking ability. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 17:48:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36D3B3BF91; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:48:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:47:03 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #548 for September 29, 2007 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <47052717.1040600@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:48:37 +0000 (UTC) Don't forget to tune in to tonight's show. http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/070927.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #548 September 27, 2007 RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Free System Projekt. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Gent." Free System Projekt: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#sep PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Phrozenlight Rumbling between Darklights (none) solitary rocks WintherStormer Musical Equitqtion Woodwork (Bajkal) Extracted from Firelogs O Yuki Conjugate Ascension Undercurrents (none) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Free System Projekt Desolate Landscape Gent (none) Free System Projekt Gent 4 Gent (none) Free System Projekt Moyland Part 4 Gent (none) Free System Projekt Gent 5 Gent (none) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Origo Sound. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Communion" by Current. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site - http://galactictravels.info RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 18:09:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 674FF3BF85; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47052E0E.6080807@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:16:46 +0200 From: van Sinn Reply-To: vansinn@post.cybercity.dk Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: behringer again again (wasprogrammable delay?) References: <4704E45F.4080805@post.cybercity.dk> <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7205719107@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> <588ce11d0710040833j7563856fj8bf1a742a35c40bd@mail.gmail.com> <69456186-E111-4B1A-AAAF-B25BBECF2B2B@jamesrichmond.com> <588ce11d0710040932v3a9085f2n6d324a1bb64d586a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <588ce11d0710040932v3a9085f2n6d324a1bb64d586a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <20yUiC.A.KsE.HxSBHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 18:09:11 +0000 (UTC) Art Simon wrote: > I guess I'm saying that _this particular example_ isn't reverse > engineering. It does seem as though Behringer is guilty of ripping off > other companies designs in other examples. But in this example, > Behringer just seems to be using common componentry to keep costs > down, which is actually _good_ engineering. They aren't really > "ripping off Electro-Harmonix" any more than Line6 rips off > Mesa-Boogie with their amp emulation. (Or Mobius rips off the EDP to > bring this back on topic : ) > > On 10/4/07, James Richmond wrote: > >>Their copy of the Ebtech cable tester is pretty much a direct copy both in >>looks and electronics. >>I've opened them up side by side. >> >>Jim Ooups! Shouldn't've mentioned the Behringer stuff, sorry about that. Ever so often there's a looongish thread on some usenet group. What Behringer is doing, which ever way, is delivering affordable gear to those who can't always afford, or don't need, Boutique gear. The Real McCoy gear will always be shopped by those who wants that. Summarizing from one of the latest (on rec.audio.pro IIRC), a posting linked to Ulf Beringer's statements, that reverse engineering is both ethically justifiable and accepted in every business, further saying "Do you think Mercedez don't have the latest BMW on a bench in their labs?" I'll just cool my engines for now ;) Peace, love on Earth et al... -- rgds, van Sinn From secure@bell.ca Thu Oct 4 20:45:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4303 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:45:47 UTC Received: from toq9-srv.bellnexxia.net (toq9.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.116]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD2B3BF39; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:45:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([74.15.191.158]) by tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.13 201-253-122-130-113-20050324) with SMTP id <20071004193353.KZEC19497.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@User>; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:33:53 -0400 From: "Amazon" Subject: Account Review Team Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 15:33:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <20071004193353.KZEC19497.tomts25-srv.bellnexxia.net@User> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Amazon

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 21:50:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6ACA3BF70; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 21:50:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 345 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 04 Oct 2007 21:50:22 UTC From: midifriedchicken@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com (Loopers Delight) Subject: Live 7 has been announced Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 21:44:35 +0000 Message-Id: <100420072144.15305.47055EC3000576D000003BC92216551406020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWlkaWZyaWVkY2hpY2tlbkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_15305_1191534275_0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 21:50:22 +0000 (UTC) --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_15305_1191534275_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Looks very cool. http://www.ableton.com/live --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_15305_1191534275_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Looks very cool.
 
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_15305_1191534275_0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 22:04:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 925EB3BF6D; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 22:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=vFMlZylZxWU5ZDUAx90xpD1pD23kGWcYnksbaeeACa8=; b=GFhBSeWLt9VeP9tq44XBVzcW+mQh/368hObXe2uaDHGkvoGez6LZaPgToGrwnAKbZxFP1MBbOdXlNzAhRqT5NCVAkjWONAZe6NFAGtcpFgxfm58TsLwbVuQa1chxOqYBXsjtP43atDXnRKojdyC+5NfGt6AnuoJhhhqo7mGXUhs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=tqdPwrr+WogGrZHDdTb42UoggFqQ7r6h41/l3Evucevtc2T/O0xDD2OgefobSZOMrrOKpPSHmhualAlfuMQk4b0wAKSGexQgiiGgvULiBC6dh/YkwBHVykRmTRxTTaWXm5aRtDM3freSAXJ24sI/2/sHYQkuBg1fs0lcC4tLV8s= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <100420072144.15305.47055EC3000576D000003BC92216551406020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> References: <100420072144.15305.47055EC3000576D000003BC92216551406020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2D696D61-5559-445A-96DE-4322EF26028C@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Live 7 has been announced Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 00:04:07 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 22:04:10 +0000 (UTC) On 4 okt 2007, at 23.44, midifriedchicken@comcast.net wrote: > Looks very cool. > http://www.ableton.com/live How wonderful! I was just so tempted to go to bed but Midi-Chick Fry helps me to stay up for an extra hour ;-) First Apple and now Ableton... it's the Fight Of The Titans out there. If they could only care a bit more about live looping musicians. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 22:17:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C33DC3BF80; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 22:17:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 613505244-mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.176.113 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4HAEoCBUdPQrBx/2dsb2JhbACCKKI4 Message-ID: <47056696.6040906@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 23:17:58 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP/fcb1010 References: <650078.90322.qm@web63505.mail.re1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <650078.90322.qm@web63505.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 22:17:55 +0000 (UTC) it would seem that the fcb1010 is sending some extra command. put all the unused fcb functions onto a different midi channel probably it's setting feedback to 0, in which case changing the FeedBKCont param should be a quick fix andy butler (tired now, more help if you need it later) richard gryffin wrote: > I have encountered a problem controlling my EDP with an fcb1010 midi > controller. I used the PC editor as suggested to program the > fcb1010 and after the third try with sysex send.... got > control of the plex....not too bad for a newbie. I have started with the > basic > 7 footswitch commands and they all initiate when pressed. The > problem I am having is this: > > I power on and record the first loop....no problems and all functions > available thru the pedal and EDP...everything works as it should until I > reset record on the EDP using the midi foot controller or > the front panel and start a new loop.... it plays only one cycle of the > loop and then stops. I have reset the EDP to factory defaults to > make sure i havent inadvertantly changed a paramater... . then i also > discovered you have to reset the echoplex presets.... > thru further experimentation i have found that apparently the > initial use of the midi controller changes a preset parameter in the > echoplex after the first loop..which one i cant figure ....i have > established this by resetting the presets after disconnecting the > fcb1010 and using the echoplex footswitch.. once i do this everything > is back to normal with the plex...as long as i use the the gibson > pedal....when i go back to the midi pedal the problem comes back...what > plex paramater will stop the loop after one cycle? and how is the midi > pedal changing the plex paramaters / presets when all i have programmed > in the pedal are note ons for the echoplex 7 front panel buttons? > > i know im a newbie but i have scoured the files and see nothing > related to this so....any help sent my way will be greatly > appreciated > > > */firehawks/* > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places > on > Yahoo! Travel. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 23:25:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC6743BF6E; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 23:25:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <380-220071044232524728@M2W007.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: qua@oregon.com X-Originating-IP: 134.134.136.4 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "qua@oregon.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 19:25:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Live 7 has been announced Resent-Message-ID: <1tP7NB.A.lJH.mZXBHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 23:25:26 +0000 (UTC) any idea when it is supposed to come out of beta=3F Original Message: ----------------- From: midifriedchicken@comcast=2Enet Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 21:44:35 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight=2Ecom (Loopers Delight) Subject: Live 7 has been announced Looks very cool=2E=20 http://www=2Eableton=2Ecom/live -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE =96 Free email based on Microsoft=AE Exchange technology - http://link=2Email2web=2Ecom/LIVE From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 4 23:57:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A7D03BF74; Thu, 4 Oct 2007 23:57:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 12860 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 04 Oct 2007 23:57:57 UTC Message-ID: <076701c806c4$708a7d20$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Krispen Hartung" From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <588ce11d0710021946v28122a16nf16d5a6454c8e91f@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: mayonesa Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 14:23:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <4lyf6C.A.N2H.F4XBHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 23:57:58 +0000 (UTC) Nice. In Bidule? Do you mean you did all this with Bidule modules, or are you using other VSTs, etc? I really enjoy working with granular effects. I have several max/msp granular patches, from Nathan Wolek's granular toolkit: http://www.nathanwolek.com/software.html I basically took most of his live performance granlar patches, converted them to true stereo, and then I controll two key pararmeters in each with my FCB expression pedals. Kris > On 10/2/07, Raul Bonell wrote: >> single sample granular/loopy madness at late night... >> >> http://www.box.net/shared/3ouaj37z3l >> >> raul. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 01:08:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FF243BF67; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 01:08:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:08:29 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: OT:guitar-X-s/pdif Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 01:08:54 +0000 (UTC) At 6:35 PM +0200 10/4/07, Raul Bonell wrote: >may somebody recommend me a cheap/clean way to convert directly >the output of my guitar into the s/pdif input of a laptop? BTW, you didn't specify: do you need coax or optical S/PDIF (or does it not matter)? Take a look at the Behringer V-Verb. Musician's Fiend [sic] is doing a special on them right now for $99: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-VVERB-PRO-REV2496-Reverb-Modeling-Processor?sku=182490 I only recently grabbed one, but it seems like a nice reverb/delay unit. Not to mention it has both AES/EBU XLR and TOSLINK built into the back (you can elect to send S/PDIF out the XLR's too, IIRC). If you need co-ax, I believe there's a wiring hack that let's you use XLR into RCA-type co-ax jacks. It's been a while since I found that one out on the net, though, so you may need to do a Google for it. And, if you want a kickass delay pedal with a built in Looper thrown in extra, the Yamaha UD-Stomp has co-ax S/PDIF built into it. That one's going to set you back a little, as their value on Ebay has held (or even increased) since they were discontinued, though. However, it does get us back on topic by a little. ;) --m. -- _____ "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 03:22:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 995073BF63; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 03:22:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=wx9lvFIM1ht7iR4m7VkDDzLovu24oYdTFUn/AcbcrQEGZnOafjNKbuDqFe/Ie+ECA8xRt/AqjsQR6M5nQdOczqx1k9DhOcXTOCHOoHLS3bk2iffrjjzQGCrUenycHAC06HS+r6hhHaghqnpXLv0sH6ulMLLol0/RMIF4+edLQdM=; X-YMail-OSG: T2Tk1jAVM1nby56si_ggJjjytRILMHZQk3U8JkPn8YThAyK190tRO1MCFVhmTX9c_Q-- Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:22:12 -0700 (PDT) From: richard gryffin Subject: Re: EDP/fcb1010 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <47056696.6040906@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1102984399-1191554532=:35938" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <589924.35938.qm@web63510.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 03:22:13 +0000 (UTC) --0-1102984399-1191554532=:35938 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit feedBKCont was set at 1....i changed it to 127.....still the same results all 7 gibson pedal button functions are set to midi channel 1 all programmed fcb functions related to the plex 7 buttons are set to channel 1 all other fcb functions are set to channel 25.....ahhhhhhhhh .....as i visualize what i write ....it occurs to me ......the plex only has 16 channels doesnt it ? so i changed to numbers the plex would understand ....channel 15 it was ....finiky lil beast isn it? and now it works like a charm....or as it is supposed to.... thanks man ...you saved me hours of frustration i am sure.... andy butler wrote: it would seem that the fcb1010 is sending some extra command. put all the unused fcb functions onto a different midi channel probably it's setting feedback to 0, in which case changing the FeedBKCont param should be a quick fix andy butler (tired now, more help if you need it later) richard gryffin wrote: > I have encountered a problem controlling my EDP with an fcb1010 midi > controller. I used the PC editor as suggested to program the > fcb1010 and after the third try with sysex send.... got > control of the plex....not too bad for a newbie. I have started with the > basic > 7 footswitch commands and they all initiate when pressed. The > problem I am having is this: > > I power on and record the first loop....no problems and all functions > available thru the pedal and EDP...everything works as it should until I > reset record on the EDP using the midi foot controller or > the front panel and start a new loop.... it plays only one cycle of the > loop and then stops. I have reset the EDP to factory defaults to > make sure i havent inadvertantly changed a paramater... . then i also > discovered you have to reset the echoplex presets.... > thru further experimentation i have found that apparently the > initial use of the midi controller changes a preset parameter in the > echoplex after the first loop..which one i cant figure ....i have > established this by resetting the presets after disconnecting the > fcb1010 and using the echoplex footswitch.. once i do this everything > is back to normal with the plex...as long as i use the the gibson > pedal....when i go back to the midi pedal the problem comes back...what > plex paramater will stop the loop after one cycle? and how is the midi > pedal changing the plex paramaters / presets when all i have programmed > in the pedal are note ons for the echoplex 7 front panel buttons? > > i know im a newbie but i have scoured the files and see nothing > related to this so....any help sent my way will be greatly > appreciated > > > */firehawks/* > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places > on > Yahoo! Travel. firehawks --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. --0-1102984399-1191554532=:35938 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
feedBKCont was set at 1....i changed it to 127.....still the same results
all 7 gibson pedal button functions are set to midi channel 1
all programmed fcb functions related to the plex 7 buttons are set to channel 1
all other fcb functions are set to channel 25.....ahhhhhhhhh .....as i visualize what i write ....it occurs to me ......the plex only has 16 channels doesnt it ? so i changed to numbers the plex would understand ....channel 15 it was ....finiky lil beast isn it?
and now it works like a charm....or as it is supposed to....
thanks man ...you saved me hours of frustration i am sure....
 


andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
it would seem that the fcb1010 is sending some extra command.
put all the unused fcb functions onto a different midi channel

probably it's setting feedback to 0, in which case changing the
FeedBKCont param should be a quick fix

andy butler
(tired now, more help if you need it later)





richard gryffin wrote:
> I have encountered a problem controlling my EDP with an fcb1010 midi
> controller. I used the PC editor as suggested to program the
> fcb1010 and after the third try with sysex send.... got
> control of the plex....not too bad for a newbie. I have started with the
> basic
> 7 footswitch commands and they all initiate when pressed. The
> problem I am having is this:
>
> I power on and record the first loop....no problems and all functions
> available thru the pedal and EDP...everything works as it should until I
> reset record on the EDP using the midi foot controller or
> the front panel and start a new loop.... it plays only one cycle of the
> loop and then stops. I have reset the EDP to factory defaults to
> make sure i havent inadvertantly changed a paramater... . then i also
> discovered you have to reset the echoplex presets....
> thru further experimentation i have found that apparently the
> initial use of the midi controller changes a preset parameter in the
> echoplex after the first loop..which one i cant figure ....i have
> established this by resetting the presets after disconnecting the
> fcb1010 and using the echoplex footswitch.. once i do this everything
> is back to normal with the plex...as long as i use the the gibson
> pedal....when i go back to the midi pedal the problem comes back...what
> plex paramater will stop the loop after one cycle? and how is the midi
> pedal changing the plex paramaters / presets when all i have programmed
> in the pedal are note ons for the echoplex 7 front panel buttons?
>
> i know im a newbie but i have scoured the files and see nothing
> related to this so....any help sent my way will be greatly
> appreciated
>
>
> */firehawks/*
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places
> on
> Yahoo! Travel.




firehawks

Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha!
Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. --0-1102984399-1191554532=:35938-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 04:55:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA8B13BF6A; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 04:55:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 05 Oct 2007 04:55:23 UTC Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 23:56:50 -0400 From: "David Kirkdorffer" Subject: My worst looping gig... To: Message-id: <000701c80703$c2e2d100$08cd5548@hppav> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C806E2.3B295840" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <589924.35938.qm@web63510.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 04:55:23 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C806E2.3B295840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ....was when a very large and very drunken member of the audience came = up on stage while I was playing an unlikely spot called "The Chopping = Block" and recounted into the microphone his "special encounter" with = Michael Brook. He was actually quite entertaining, which was reason = enough for me to stop playing and just let the moment play out. What I = didn't realize fast enough was just how long it would take to share all = the details of this "special encounter."=20 and what about you?? ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C806E2.3B295840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
....was when a very large and very = drunken member=20 of the audience came up on stage while I was playing an unlikely spot = called=20 "The Chopping Block" and recounted into the microphone his "special = encounter"=20 with Michael Brook.  He was actually quite entertaining, which was = reason=20 enough for me to stop playing and just let the moment play out.  = What I=20 didn't realize fast enough was just how long it would take to share all = the=20 details of this "special encounter."
 
and what about = you??
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I enjoyed your tale.

Unrelated anecdote:

It was 1977.  I was the "leader" of an early punk band in Northampton, MA.  We encouraged audience participation as a political statement.  This led to some great nights (and some no so great ones).  Daniel Lightsey (a published poet; if still a very damaged human being) did scat words on top of our jams.  We took him on the road (regional) and he was always well received in clubs in Boston & New England environs.  However, his love of heroin made him unreliable in the extreme and we had to stop his involvement.  But I still think his poems (sometimes) were sublime.

We had a local musician we called Yoko Wayney who would leap on stage and take over the singing on occasion.  He was a co-owner of an excellent NY deli in Oho.  We later played his wedding (or his business partner - one of them was gay but I can never remember which one). Yoko Wayney was once a musician in NY with a band called the Gypsy Tramps and he knew folks like Alan Vega from Suicide - which was cool cause we then hired Suicide to play a one-off gig in Noho and they let us open for them at a club in NYC called the 80s. One of my very favorite gig memories.  The audience assaulted me as lead singer and I loved the negative energy.

So those are my memories: Daniel causing mayhem and people throwing bottles at the stage. One night with Yoko Wayney, the bass player in my band decided Wayney had been sleeping with his wife (or something else - I never figured out all of his anger issues) and he threw a beer glass at Yoko.  Who went berserk and threw things back and ranted for ages into an open mic. So the rest of us grooved  on the cadence of his speech and gave him a cool James Brown backdrop for his diatribe.  Then the cops shut down the club (Rahars) for the night.  So L. Luchinie turned it into a private party, opened the cooler, and we all sat & drank into the wee hours while telling tall tales.

Between the 2 of them, the groove went on for almost an hour and I really wish we had run tape because I suspect it was excellent.

Anyway - I think being assualted by your listeners may sometimes be a good thing. I was assaulted by miiltant lesbians numerous times for my lyrics, even though I kept trying to explain they were hyperbole intended to skew homophobes.  Such was life in the land of literal liberali9sm circa 1977.

-----Original Message-----
From: David Kirkdorffer
Sent: Oct 4, 2007 11:56 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: My worst looping gig...

....was when a very large and very drunken member of the audience came up on stage while I was playing an unlikely spot called "The Chopping Block" and recounted into the microphone his "special encounter" with Michael Brook.  He was actually quite entertaining, which was reason enough for me to stop playing and just let the moment play out.  What I didn't realize fast enough was just how long it would take to share all the details of this "special encounter."
 
and what about you??
From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 08:08:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53D6D3BF6C; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 10:08:29 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+6eilawFa6ZnYUleypBjry6Eoj0unXMbWiF4PJFd R6jGVZ96Wo0HGSjLc7gUI/oeT4skZYbvu6mQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: z8k2f8EXMmA6ScJ3kGBnzU85MjQ1Nx2N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks When I loop _by_myself_, I'm quite happy with the musical freedom. If I have an idea in my head, I can transform it into sounding music on a looper more or less to my satisfaction. When I play with others and _I_set_the_rhyhthm_ (and often also the bass line) on my looper, it also works out quite well. When it comes to playing together with other acoustic musicians in a live setting where _they_set_the_tempo_ , there still seems to be a long way to go. Recently, I jammed with a couple acoustic musicians where I didn't dominate the song structure. So, the tempo was varying about ca. +/- 20 BPM. Eventually, I had to turn my RC-2 off. To make a long story short: What looping features & skills do you need to be able to play live with other musicians? How do you keep in sync and keep up with tempo properly (acoustic instruments only and no drummer with a midi trigger)? My first guess is that you need a looper with the following features: - Retrigger loop(s) - Tap tempo So, what hardware loopers are able to do this? Retrigger: I can't really do that with my RC-50 + RC-2. You can't really stop and restart the loop because the ther will be a big "hole" in the music (maybe it works if you add a lot of reverb or put another loop under it?). Tap Tempo: More or less useless on RC-50 (might work if you only have percussion). RC-2: works quite fine. But you cannot use an external foot pedal for that (tap tempo will work only in stop mode). That means you have to bend down. So, how about other hardware loopers? And software (Mobius or SooperLooper)? Have you experience with handling such situations in practice? Best regards Buzap -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kanns mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 08:44:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35A783BF68; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:44:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=hZ7x2yIBMsUWjSitEKttQLhmezuvdf5mJizT82qWV4Q=; b=SmAf8SBcBZm3i4T5WJPC/QUPWMrqHe2R0vz2V6mM8qf0FXv7L8boGuc+wkmFQW5ZorfWf6gsK16LQcRxwCbFOYc/2egVg5nJp3uSFdMGKV32W1YEvqA1KbMkd1LCCHsTXZqKtvaAjyqZsp12x78MgnOK4fGLR8ZcIfFQhaRf6Nw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=tuMm0PVfXtvpgnurePAzqywNkSPEjx/riQZeiVMTNViCryKH/DuX+Ruu2ZNfN89/X93Gw2YVrWtnaUkCKroFs+fAm6QNaASPTxDbkRmWZF9ts36Ib1KZHDTheXPe2WG/JWjT5syMaBVOFzrkhZrSoBJJgyOEALnh3dJKF3CsmRI= In-Reply-To: <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> References: <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <716FB4BF-3A51-4C0A-82A9-19E4A15383CD@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 10:44:19 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <6z9U5D.A.L4C.plfBHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:44:26 +0000 (UTC) On 5 okt 2007, at 10.08, Buzap Buzap wrote: > To make a long story short: What looping features & skills do you > need to be able to play live with other musicians? > How do you keep in sync and keep up with tempo properly (acoustic > instruments only and no drummer with a midi trigger)? In my experience the EDP is excellent for this. The trick is to not loop all the time and always be prepared delete your loop in a blink to react on what is happening in the group. 1) On the EDP you can always hit Record to erase everything and start a new loop and the second time you hit Record (or any alternative ending) you're in a new loop that is syncing to the new "acoustic" tempo. 2) I also keep one button to instantly retrigger the loop ("stutter"). 3) I the group tempo changes while I'm working a floating, non rhythmic, loop I might simply go Multiply-Record to cut it down to a duration that loops in synk. This kind of "looper abuse" is not possible with Mobius on a laptop, although Mobius does well handle most EDP tricks and adds its own. This good live synk functionality is the reason I still keep my old EDP. I can't think of any bette way to sync electronics than an EDP used in the above described way. The longer loop you create the more accurate will the sync be. I typically start out with two or one bars. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 08:49:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE1933BF63; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 393 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 05 Oct 2007 08:49:50 UTC Message-ID: <00ee01c8072b$c2513830$4001a8c0@pcfabio> Reply-To: "e t e r o g e n e o" From: "e t e r o g e n e o" To: References: Subject: Re: mayonesa Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 10:43:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EB_01C8073C.85A0CFC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Spam-Rating: smtp6.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:49:51 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00EB_01C8073C.85A0CFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Very nice ! fabio ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Raul Bonell=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 3:33 AM Subject: mayonesa single sample granular/loopy madness at late night... http://www.box.net/shared/3ouaj37z3l raul. --=20 The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 10:29:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 889253BF6D; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 10:29:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 12:29:45 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <716FB4BF-3A51-4C0A-82A9-19E4A15383CD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20071005102945.278030@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> <716FB4BF-3A51-4C0A-82A9-19E4A15383CD@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/OOfh2jE/OqfevStd99+Zefy/P1n3n14Nbcu64u/ 8vTBRPLvaguy/xBDrXIAaEgD/vpo/5r4YXCg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: ISA/cqAheWUoScF6iHRzS0oxU3U4Nw/9 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 10:29:48 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per & all the hints are really good. Seems like constantly tapping the BPM to catch up is not the wisest thing? Let's look at these advices from the RC50 perpective: > 1) On the EDP you can always hit Record to erase everything and start > a new loop and the second time you hit Record (or any alternative > ending) you're in a new loop that is syncing to the new "acoustic" > tempo. With extra pedals, I can do that quite easily, since I have 3 loops available to switch back and forth. > 2) I also keep one button to instantly retrigger the loop ("stutter"). Just figured out, that I can do that also in SINGLE MODE on the RC50, by pressing the Phrase pedal. That's really sweet!! :-)) I do get to use the single mode after all... > 3) I the group tempo changes while I'm working a floating, > rhythmic, loop I might simply go Multiply-Record to cut it down to a > duration that loops in synk. I get the idea. Currently, it "almost" works. I just can't get the damn thing to "multiply-record" without quantizing to initial loop tempo. So, overall, the "stutter" function seems to help a lot. If I don't get tired stepping on the pedal on every count of "one". I can even keep the loop running with the wrong tempo and still start on time (assuming the group get's faster). I had another trick in mind, but I don't know if it works: Sort of slowing down, speeding up the loop until you are in sync with the group. Don't know if you just need practice to get there or if it is too difficult. Was really surprised that Mobius doesn't play all these tricks.. Thanks Buzap -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kanns mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 11:25:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCD833BF58; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 11:25:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 13:25:41 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200710051125.l95BPfv3009775@post.webmailer.de> X-Authentication-Warning: sek.store: httpd set sender to rs@moinlabs.de using -f To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rs@moinlabs.de Subject: Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 512675 / 192.109.190.88 X-RZG-MBID: 0AP3TDtljfgdCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-RZG-CLASS-ID: em07 Resent-Message-ID: <3HhiPD.A._6H.28hBHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 11:25:42 +0000 (UTC) The Repeater works well in this setup. You can either tap the tempo as you = =3D play, and the Repeater will speed up or slow down accordingly, or you can (= =3D if I remember correctly) even have it sync to an acoustic bass drum track. = =3D I never did that with the Repeater, but with a Quasimidi Sirius sending mid= =3D i clock to a Repeater. Other possibilties: 1. Make sure somebody who is able to dominate the tempo (normally, a loud d= =3D rummer) can hear your loop very clearly. At best, very loud in his inears. = =3D I also played with a drummer who was very happy to look at the flashing tap= =3D tempo light of my KP2 synced to the Repeater. 2. Use loops which work well with tempo changes. 3. Learn to play very tight. Rainer > To make a long story short: What looping features & skills do you need to= be > able to play live with other musicians? > How do you keep in sync and keep up with tempo properly (acoustic > instruments only and no drummer with a midi trigger)? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 11:56:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2712B3BF25; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 11:56:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=pteNyZucQMbUO5nHhBgyscRcGoIB6GXcl6gVjE6QObo=; b=MiEdL4wpOZZCyWr91V4miblothzuCJTnf/8puFZaZL7BkQxqsD5o48IAzh5QGFSrRJEZzJ01DRi2B71eyW+OSMvz110od2GsTN1/gjUGd81KbPkC8Ivx9kMdinuCEHaavfId3mKmkhT5AtxkThnioIx/RxVaXSXS9rfRHW9Xk1A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=M3A9SZhKpLLyII28kMM5/UQbSh9mDt17JoTNayuEGmfDJZ6ynAxvykNIbLnP0Lm2yL1VULdmciBPSm9+CzVWVY5wtAtSRCA0ja1CgsOycfQqrq2KtXrTkYmeiEY0Nyg5nMR701KCSiD0kbC9FZ6v8FaqocTKhmtM2Ow9rWRjFIE= In-Reply-To: <20071005102945.278030@gmx.net> References: <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> <716FB4BF-3A51-4C0A-82A9-19E4A15383CD@gmail.com> <20071005102945.278030@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7778FF78-51D6-4A2E-A349-4BC6907C7F04@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 13:56:51 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <0dadiC.A.A9.KaiBHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 11:56:58 +0000 (UTC) On 5 okt 2007, at 12.29, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Was really surprised that Mobius doesn't play all these tricks.. Oh yes it does! But not without audio artifacts or rhythmic hiccups. Never judge a piece of gear form its specification. Better try it, listen to it and apply it. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 12:02:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAD4E3BF6F; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:02:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1382 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 05 Oct 2007 12:02:45 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) To: Loop List Message-Id: <1505A8B2-8ED8-4E5D-A23C-0AC96EB3D219@steve-lawson.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-676297591 From: Steve Lawson Subject: Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:39:38 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dot1.hosting-ontap.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - steve-lawson.co.uk Resent-Message-ID: <-Ple5D.A.qNB.lfiBHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:02:45 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-676297591 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed >>How do you keep in sync and keep up with tempo properly << As a general rule, you don't. They do - if you're the one looping, it's incumbent on the other musicians to LISTEN to what you're doing and stick with it. Like a drummer - a drummer's job isn't to follow the tempo drifts of the singer, in all but the most arcane of musical settings. Everyone else follows the drummer (except the bassist - we tend to be able to pull drummers in line when they need it... ;o) ) So, explain to the other musicians that your loops won't follow them, and that they have to listen to you as they would to a drummer. Then play things, at least at first til the get the subtlety of it, that are rhythmically really obvious. I've been able to get people who previously had no idea about looping to follow me pretty well, just by pointing out that they need to listen. :o) cheers Steve www.stevelawson.net - site www.stevelawson.net/zencart/ - shop http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson --Apple-Mail-3-676297591 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>How do you keep in sync = and keep up with tempo properly=A0<<

As a general rule, you = don't. They do - if you're the one looping, it's incumbent on the other = musicians to LISTEN to what you're doing and stick with it. Like a = drummer - a drummer's job isn't to follow the tempo drifts of the = singer, in all but the most arcane of musical settings. Everyone else = follows the drummer (except the bassist - we tend to be able to pull = drummers in line when they need it... ;o)=A0 )

So, explain to the other = musicians that your loops won't follow them, and that they have to = listen to you as they would to a drummer. Then play things, at least at = first til the get the subtlety of it, that are rhythmically really = obvious. I've been able to get people who previously had no idea about = looping to follow me pretty well, just by pointing out that they need to = listen. :o)=A0

cheers

= http://steve.anthropiccollec= tive.org - = blog
www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson



= --Apple-Mail-3-676297591-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 12:11:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59A923BF6F; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:11:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 05 Oct 2007 12:11:55 UTC X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] Message-ID: <000e01c80740$8b35a830$4001a8c0@mini> From: "Claude Voit" To: References: <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> <716FB4BF-3A51-4C0A-82A9-19E4A15383CD@gmail.com> <20071005102945.278030@gmx.net> Subject: Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 13:11:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <4CiKkB.A.kpB.MoiBHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:11:56 +0000 (UTC) hi why search for the complicated akward techie solution ?? why not take some time for the "other" musician to adapt to play regular time and "connect" with your loops _they_ are suposed to adapt if they want to play with a looping musician Claude Hi Per & all the hints are really good. Seems like constantly tapping the BPM to catch up is not the wisest thing? Let's look at these advices from the RC50 perpective: > 1) On the EDP you can always hit Record to erase everything and start > a new loop and the second time you hit Record (or any alternative > ending) you're in a new loop that is syncing to the new "acoustic" > tempo. With extra pedals, I can do that quite easily, since I have 3 loops available to switch back and forth. > 2) I also keep one button to instantly retrigger the loop ("stutter"). Just figured out, that I can do that also in SINGLE MODE on the RC50, by pressing the Phrase pedal. That's really sweet!! :-)) I do get to use the single mode after all... > 3) I the group tempo changes while I'm working a floating, > rhythmic, loop I might simply go Multiply-Record to cut it down to a > duration that loops in synk. I get the idea. Currently, it "almost" works. I just can't get the damn thing to "multiply-record" without quantizing to initial loop tempo. So, overall, the "stutter" function seems to help a lot. If I don't get tired stepping on the pedal on every count of "one". I can even keep the loop running with the wrong tempo and still start on time (assuming the group get's faster). I had another trick in mind, but I don't know if it works: Sort of slowing down, speeding up the loop until you are in sync with the group. Don't know if you just need practice to get there or if it is too difficult. Was really surprised that Mobius doesn't play all these tricks.. Thanks Buzap -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kanns mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 12:25:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 195C73BF6F; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:25:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 619903046-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.162.122 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj0KABTKBUdPQqJ6/2dsb2JhbACCKKBU Message-ID: <47062D46.9070207@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:25:42 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper References: <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> <716FB4BF-3A51-4C0A-82A9-19E4A15383CD@gmail.com> <20071005102945.278030@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20071005102945.278030@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:25:37 +0000 (UTC) > I had another trick in mind, but I don't know if it works: > Sort of slowing down, speeding up the loop until you are in sync with the group. Don't know if you just need practice to get there or if it is too difficult. bet it's not possible ( would be great if you could prove me wrong here :-) it's hard anyway, but the musicians you are trying to match will likely have found yet another tempo by the time you catch up. Especially as what you're doing is going to put them off. > Was really surprised that Mobius doesn't play all these tricks.. me too, but let's appreciate that Jeff transcended his "EDP Clone" days. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 12:32:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 529833BF6D; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:32:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 619905163-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.162.122 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj0KACbLBUdPQqJ6/2dsb2JhbACCKKBU Message-ID: <47062EDC.6080507@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 13:32:28 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper References: <1505A8B2-8ED8-4E5D-A23C-0AC96EB3D219@steve-lawson.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1505A8B2-8ED8-4E5D-A23C-0AC96EB3D219@steve-lawson.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:32:22 +0000 (UTC) Steve Lawson wrote: - a drummer's job isn't to follow the > tempo drifts of the singer, in all but the most arcane of musical > settings. Vietnamese sung poetry is arcane???? (anyone think of any others?) andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 13:32:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1CC33BF65; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 13:32:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <094201c80754$37e65b70$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Krispen Hartung" From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <589924.35938.qm@web63510.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <000701c80703$c2e2d100$08cd5548@hppav> Subject: Re: My worst looping gig... Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 07:32:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_093F_01C80721.EC6953A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 13:32:53 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_093F_01C80721.EC6953A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here is my worst looping gig...copied from my blog at: = http://krispenhartung.blogspot.com/2005_09_01_archive.html "Yesterday was probably the worst gig I ever experienced...totally = horrific. Just about everything that could have gone wrong, went wrong. = To start, the night before my 85 year old grandma slipped on the = hardwood for of my kitchen and landed on the back of her head, knocking = her out unconscious, and bleeding profusely. We had to call the = ambulance, take her to the emergency room at the hospital, and she has = been in the hospital since. She is fine and they are keeping her in the = hospital as a precaution, to observe her, take a cat scan to ensure = there is no internal bleeding, etc....main point being that I was up = until at least midnight the night before the gig, and then I got up a = 5:30am to pickup my percussionist and drive 3.5 hours to the art = festival. It was a arts festival that I signed up for...a pro bono gig = to support the arts. [postscript - my grandmother passed away a few = months later] So here is where the nightmare starts. We get to this little town where = the art fair is, and not only is it totally overcast, but there is new = snow on the mountains nearby (September), and we can see our breath as = we get out of my Jeep. First bad sign....my fingers don't work to well = on the guitar when it's that cold. So, it starts to warm up a bit, and = we discover that the sound man is behind schedule. We were supposed to = start at 11:30am, but we didn't even start doing a sound check until = 11:45pm. Then I had some major technical difficulties with my system, = getting both my guitar and the percussion to loop through my Gibson = Echoplexes, and come through the main channel of my mixer board...that = takes a while to troubleshoot. In the mean time...the lady that is = coordinating the whole thing is pressuring us to start playing....so = while we are working the bugs out, she decides to have the act after us = start part of their show, which incidentally was her singing in full = vibrato, church-lady style. Gasp! She finishes her song and we finally = start playing....but what the $#@!*&%!? My looped signal is not coming = through the main PA speakers....so in the panic mode, I just start = playing solo guitar style...some jingle-jangle jazz stuff...Aaron, my = percussionist and good friend adapts and plays his ashiko along with = me...no loops though...after that song, I decide to push a few buttons = on the board, and what the hell...my looped signal is coming through, = but there are no monitors, no percussion in the loops, and the looped = signal is not coming through my headphone signal, which is what we were = using for our monitors. Okay, I can deal with that...I can just rely on = what I hear in the main PA speakers. So we limp through our shorten set, = and then I discover probably the most ludicrous thing about this = event...the lady who coordinated it built ABSOLUTELY NO transitions = between the acts! Totally unbelievable. In other words, there is no = setup or teardown time before or after acts [and only one stage]. So = she's practically yelling at us to get our gear off the stage so that = the next act can start in, ehhhh, 30 seconds? Yeah right. We manage to = just scoot my rack off to the side, but the real kicker is that at 3pm = we are scheduled to play again, meaning we have to set all this shit up = again with no transition time, thus eating into our set. But it gets more ludicrous. After we get off the stage, we discover what = is lined up for the other performing acts. Totally crazy...5 old blue = hair women and a man who are dancing and singing on the state to = pre-recorded music. I mean, this is freakin' hilarious, everything from = the Charleston to clog dancing. And it's the same damn performers each = time...they just changed into different costumes in their tent and = played musical chairs. This was starting to seem like a sick and twisted = joke. Who the hell is going to come listen to an improvisational and = avant-garde looping duo when what they have to lure them into the area = are blue-haired church ladies singing with the most unbearable vibrato, = barely hobbling around with some old dance moves, etc? Talk about a = marketing/promotional fiasco. And the temperature outside gets colder, and colder....then my wife = calls me from home, and she had to take our 4-month girl twin to the = emergency room because she was cold, hands purple, etc...she was fine = eventually...long story but we discovered the source. And to top it off, = my wife and her mother (staying with us at the time) have both acquired = the stomach flu and are vomiting, trying to take care of the twins. They = end up calling our nanny to work on the weekend to help out. So, 3pm comes around and the schedule is now 1 hour behind....remember, = no transitions. I'm freezing, and I feel like I'm getting sick....yes, = most likely the stomach flu. We probably won't start playing until at = least 4:30, which puts me back home later than 9pm...not acceptable = given the situation at home. So I negotiate with the lady coordinator = and she thinks its fine that we just not play and leave. So we pack are = stuff up and drive off like bats out of hell.....good riddens, man. Aaron drives my Jeep because I have the cold chills and hot flashes, = plus I feel like I'm going to vomit. We finally make it home, I crawl = into bed, and spend the a good portion of the night in the bathroom, = ejecting fluids from every orifice in my body." Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David Kirkdorffer=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 9:56 PM Subject: My worst looping gig... ....was when a very large and very drunken member of the audience came = up on stage while I was playing an unlikely spot called "The Chopping = Block" and recounted into the microphone his "special encounter" with = Michael Brook. He was actually quite entertaining, which was reason = enough for me to stop playing and just let the moment play out. What I = didn't realize fast enough was just how long it would take to share all = the details of this "special encounter."=20 and what about you?? ------=_NextPart_000_093F_01C80721.EC6953A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here is my worst looping gig...copied = from my blog=20 at: http:= //krispenhartung.blogspot.com/2005_09_01_archive.html
 
 
"Yesterday was probably the worst = gig I ever=20 experienced...totally horrific. Just about everything that could have = gone=20 wrong, went wrong. To start, the night before my 85 year old grandma = slipped on=20 the hardwood for of my kitchen and landed on the back of her head, = knocking her=20 out unconscious, and bleeding profusely. We had to call the ambulance, = take her=20 to the emergency room at the hospital, and she has been in the hospital = since.=20 She is fine and they are keeping her in the hospital as a precaution, to = observe=20 her, take a cat scan to ensure there is no internal bleeding, = etc....main point=20 being that I was up until at least midnight the night before the gig, = and then I=20 got up a 5:30am to pickup my percussionist and drive 3.5 hours to the = art=20 festival. It was a arts festival that I signed up for...a pro bono gig = to=20 support the arts. [postscript - my grandmother passed away a few months=20 later]

So here is where the nightmare starts. We get to this = little town=20 where the art fair is, and not only is it totally overcast, but there is = new=20 snow on the mountains nearby (September), and we can see our breath as = we get=20 out of my Jeep. First bad sign....my fingers don't work to well on the = guitar=20 when it's that cold. So, it starts to warm up a bit, and we discover = that the=20 sound man is behind schedule. We were supposed to start at 11:30am, but = we=20 didn't even start doing a sound check until 11:45pm. Then I had some = major=20 technical difficulties with my system, getting both my guitar and the = percussion=20 to loop through my Gibson Echoplexes, and come through the main channel = of my=20 mixer board...that takes a while to troubleshoot. In the mean time...the = lady=20 that is coordinating the whole thing is pressuring us to start = playing....so=20 while we are working the bugs out, she decides to have the act after us = start=20 part of their show, which incidentally was her singing in full = vibrato,=20 church-lady style. Gasp! She finishes her song and we finally start=20 playing....but what the $#@!*&%!? My looped=20 signal is not coming through the main PA speakers....so in the panic = mode, I=20 just start playing solo guitar style...some jingle-jangle jazz = stuff...Aaron, my=20 percussionist and good friend adapts and plays his ashiko along with = me...no=20 loops though...after that song, I decide to push a few buttons on the = board, and=20 what the hell...my looped signal is coming through, but there are no = monitors,=20 no percussion in the loops, and the looped signal is not coming through = my=20 headphone signal, which is what we were using for our monitors. Okay, I = can deal=20 with that...I can just rely on what I hear in the main PA speakers. So = we limp=20 through our shorten set, and then I discover probably the most ludicrous = thing=20 about this event...the lady who coordinated it built ABSOLUTELY NO = transitions=20 between the acts! Totally unbelievable. In other words, there is no = setup or=20 teardown time before or after acts [and only one stage]. So she's = practically=20 yelling at us to get our gear off the stage so that the next act can = start in,=20 ehhhh, 30 seconds? Yeah right. We manage to just scoot my rack off to = the side,=20 but the real kicker is that at 3pm we are scheduled to play again, = meaning we=20 have to set all this shit up again with no transition time, thus eating = into our=20 set.

But it gets more ludicrous. After we get off the stage, we = discover=20 what is lined up for the other performing acts. Totally crazy...5 old = blue hair=20 women and a man who are dancing and singing on the state to pre-recorded = music.=20 I mean, this is freakin' hilarious, everything from the Charleston to = clog=20 dancing. And it's the same damn performers each time...they just changed = into=20 different costumes in their tent and played musical chairs. This was = starting to=20 seem like a sick and twisted joke. Who the hell is going to come listen = to an=20 improvisational and avant-garde looping duo when what they have to lure = them=20 into the area are blue-haired church ladies singing with the most = unbearable=20 vibrato, barely hobbling around with some old dance moves, etc? Talk = about a=20 marketing/promotional fiasco.


And the temperature outside = gets=20 colder, and colder....then my wife calls me from home, and she had to = take our=20 4-month girl twin to the emergency room because she was cold, hands = purple,=20 etc...she was fine eventually...long story but we discovered the source. = And to=20 top it off, my wife and her mother (staying with us at the time) have = both=20 acquired the stomach flu and are vomiting, trying to take care of the = twins.=20 They end up calling our nanny to work on the weekend to help = out.

So, 3pm=20 comes around and the schedule is now 1 hour behind....remember, no = transitions.=20 I'm freezing, and I feel like I'm getting sick....yes, most likely the = stomach=20 flu. We probably won't start playing until at least 4:30, which puts me = back=20 home later than 9pm...not acceptable given the situation at home. So I = negotiate=20 with the lady coordinator and she thinks its fine that we just not play = and=20 leave. So we pack are stuff up and drive off like bats out of = hell.....good=20 riddens, man.

Aaron drives my Jeep because I have the cold chills = and hot=20 flashes, plus I feel like I'm going to vomit. We finally make it home, I = crawl=20 into bed, and spend the a good portion of the night in the bathroom, = ejecting=20 fluids from every orifice in my body."
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 David=20 Kirkdorffer
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, October 04, = 2007 9:56=20 PM
Subject: My worst looping = gig...

....was when a very large and very = drunken member=20 of the audience came up on stage while I was playing an unlikely spot = called=20 "The Chopping Block" and recounted into the microphone his "special = encounter"=20 with Michael Brook.  He was actually quite entertaining, which = was reason=20 enough for me to stop playing and just let the moment play out.  = What I=20 didn't realize fast enough was just how long it would take to share = all the=20 details of this "special encounter."
 
and what about=20 you??
------=_NextPart_000_093F_01C80721.EC6953A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 14:22:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B76B3BF60; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:22:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=vBIAsSRP5VXEB0El2mB2fata18BW54MJQODQ11UhL08=; b=X/elsNpisNGGDFoRVWJWzmv7I+3H1XnYF1GfxWcdd3PevhE2/qFvhkucDueSMa2RuxxVnOZMI/XwyX5ZQBamjcYxEVK+clHUHCcqg1vIRJoNVS48CfbfZxjiN37tqKQl1W8zOXS8hwjtv/A/vUCCAlnWCcovMed8s4lUiIzXIFE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PlC5qARq8QTlahy2cKONcgT67d1tYosPpiYHu2MCH6xNg95jRs7QbawGH0AMfL/Aa2lkSPD5/NEq0XIeTn8ffiOpb3/4UoyL6BchPTcmnSe5aKLdUbtzK82p1tNu/IgM+Pv5wyYXR6NlWAsD7PtlpPz6hxbubTPN8VZZ1z1jNoI= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 16:22:43 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT:guitar-X-s/pdif In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:22:46 +0000 (UTC) thanks guys... being more specific: battery, hitting a conical s/pdif, and hi-z for gt./bass input. other option, would be to get one of those line6,m-audio,behringer,... tiny usb ports. does anybody have experience with guitar oriented usb interfaces? thanks again, raul. 2007/10/5, Mech : > At 6:35 PM +0200 10/4/07, Raul Bonell wrote: > >may somebody recommend me a cheap/clean way to convert directly > >the output of my guitar into the s/pdif input of a laptop? > > BTW, you didn't specify: do you need coax or optical S/PDIF (or does > it not matter)? > > Take a look at the Behringer V-Verb. Musician's Fiend [sic] is doing > a special on them right now for $99: > > http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Behringer-VVERB-PRO-REV2496-Reverb-Modeling-Processor?sku=182490 > > I only recently grabbed one, but it seems like a nice reverb/delay > unit. Not to mention it has both AES/EBU XLR and TOSLINK built into > the back (you can elect to send S/PDIF out the XLR's too, IIRC). If > you need co-ax, I believe there's a wiring hack that let's you use > XLR into RCA-type co-ax jacks. It's been a while since I found that > one out on the net, though, so you may need to do a Google for it. > > And, if you want a kickass delay pedal with a built in Looper thrown > in extra, the Yamaha UD-Stomp has co-ax S/PDIF built into it. That > one's going to set you back a little, as their value on Ebay has held > (or even increased) since they were discontinued, though. However, > it does get us back on topic by a little. ;) > > --m. > -- > _____ > "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 14:23:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E130C3BF73; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:23:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:23:03 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <47062D46.9070207@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <20071005142303.119990@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> <716FB4BF-3A51-4C0A-82A9-19E4A15383CD@gmail.com> <20071005102945.278030@gmx.net> <47062D46.9070207@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18SlTQMksAShaqbExiov5YHa7hCpj3UCHylpeh3WI RzktFrsmHTD6uRV3mObKrrum6qa6S5vHz75w== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: oSxuCuRPbHIhc9sjwjU0e2EiJihyapAa Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 14:23:05 +0000 (UTC) Hi guys first of all, I'm glad to have started such a fruitful discussion :) So, some comments: To me, it is important not only to lead the gang with my looping but also be able to follow (what if the other guys _are_ the drummer+bass player?). People already look at me in strange ways when I come up with my looper. I think you can earn quite some respect when you are also able to follow others decently. Plus, it's simply my desire for musical freedom. In the situation I had described, an accordeonist was leading this ethnic rubato style song with _very_ free tempo. The song wouldn't be the same (not "breathing") if we'd stick to my stuff. Anyway, some ideas/best practices I've developed in the mean time: Since you have to keep track of the time of the others constantly anyway, you can do this: - Put everything that is like ambient sound on a loop (or seperate delay pedal) - Fire the ryhthmical stuff as one shot samples i.e. you record a rhythmic pattern of 4 beats. So that means, you have to press the pedal at the exact time in every bar to trigger your one-shot-loop. (The drummer uses his pedals all the time, so why shouldnt you?). The good thing is, even if the tempo varies a bit, you are still on track. So you keep on stomping through the whole song... (poor pedal) On the RC-50 I would work it like this (forgot to deactivate TEMPO SYNC in my last mail btw): - Make the following settings: - SINGLE MODE - no loop sync, turn off tempo sync for all three phrases, turn down Rhythm knob to off - Assuming your loop is 4 beats do this: - Start looping (begin with a distinct sound on beat 1) - Play your 4 beats - Keep on recording i.e. alltogether 8/12 beats - Run your phrase as continuous loop - Retrigger (Stutter) by pressing PHRASE pedal every 4 beats - That means you are rhythmically pressing the pedal on every beat 1 - If you go into OVERDUB mode quickly, you can sneak in some more stuff in the first 4 beats (or some ambient sounds in beats 1-12) If you want to add ambient layers, I'd recommend using a seperate delay pedal. (There is also a workaround in MULTI MODE using external pedals, one phrase as ambient loop and the others as one-shot-loops - but complicated). I hope this hasn't been too confusing. I'm still experimenting. But I've discovered new ways to use my looper today :-)) Best regards Buzap -- GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS. Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 15:15:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D0D63BF70; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 15:15:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:15:14 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" Message-ID: <20071005151514.298510@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: How many loopers does Boss sell? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/lck9SSbrlBhwBL6jkMT7bvzTHEaMgRzR8iiGEcE 7Dfnp/nOVfn9OBuvR5aLrsMVDB6VO/0WJzMw== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: NmcxcPINbGInStBtlmVn+mFvcmZ1ZtwE Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 15:15:16 +0000 (UTC) Hi guys I was just wondering how many people are really out there with the same looper. Does anybody know how many units Roland is selling world-wide? - Boss RC-50? - Boss RC-2? - Boss RC-20(XL)? How many EDPs have been sold in comparison? Best regards Buzap -- Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger gehört? Der kanns mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 15:22:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CCFFD3BF61; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 15:22:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1903 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 05 Oct 2007 15:22:25 UTC From: "nick@12testing.net" To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 15:50:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: dl4 manual? Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <47065D36.18881.168EE7F@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 15:22:25 +0000 (UTC) does anyone have a pdf of the full dl4 manual? even the line6 website only offers a shortened version. I'm looking for info on use of the expression pedal. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 15:24:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D72F53BF6C; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 15:24:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 613742935-mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.162.122 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj0KALPzBUdPQqJ6/2dsb2JhbACCKKB5 Message-ID: <4706571B.9070303@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 16:24:11 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: How many loopers does Boss sell? References: <20071005151514.298510@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20071005151514.298510@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2uGsx.A.DOC.UclBHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 15:24:04 +0000 (UTC) no idea, but local music shops (UK Norwich) say ( about LoopStations) "we're selling loads, but only one guy turned up to our (Roland only) looping competition" and "can't even get them to sell" andybutler Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi guys > > I was just wondering how many people are really out there with the same looper. > > Does anybody know how many units Roland is selling world-wide? > - Boss RC-50? > - Boss RC-2? > - Boss RC-20(XL)? > > How many EDPs have been sold in comparison? > > Best regards > Buzap From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 15:50:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F076A3BF6A; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 15:50:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=2nWTfXZ+KahIlyCKXJHVFeHEhO9nr8FEjupdNJezYBvozqOdLHAwcPpwORjwr8SNDzxiiTXjry2iHK2Dq8sYqwC4Dj5tcui6Q9YPgAs48RH+CDtIs1tiJpRREB4sFe6ObliWR6VH4dooGIB7NtXWwtG+G57RfgN0Sy3GPSrtw+U=; X-YMail-OSG: 0_SWsu0VM1knMfchyatePe3PB_ACHhr650QwBfQ0Et590S8.YOrgvhZ6XS6qaRXIBz9lUGRgvUeDyz0I9ruWzAF41PT..H_k.DyTrf0KqvlRqFnAVczHg35EPSsl7Q-- Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 08:50:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Kupferschmid Subject: Re: How many loopers does Boss sell? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4706571B.9070303@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <540871.50064.qm@web34313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 15:50:43 +0000 (UTC) I own an RC-2, but I outgrew it instantly, and While I've considered the RC20, I think I'd rather go with the EDP myself, I'm just a) not at that skill level with my looping just yet and b) don't have that kind of money yet. I'm also pretty regular at my local Guitar Center(it's sad, they all know me on a first name basis and because I'm there so much, they give me employee discount...so they say), and it doesn't look like, or they haven't said anything about moving that many loopers, but since I don't actually work there, I don't know. --- andy butler wrote: > no idea, > > but local music shops (UK Norwich) say ( about > LoopStations) > "we're selling loads, but only one guy turned up to > our (Roland only) looping competition" > and > "can't even get them to sell" > > andybutler > > Buzap Buzap wrote: > > Hi guys > > > > I was just wondering how many people are really > out there with the same looper. > > > > Does anybody know how many units Roland is selling > world-wide? > > - Boss RC-50? > > - Boss RC-2? > > - Boss RC-20(XL)? > > > > How many EDPs have been sold in comparison? > > > > Best regards > > Buzap > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. 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Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 15:57:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66AB33BF70; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 15:57:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 722 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 05 Oct 2007 15:57:21 UTC X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 10:45:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56B8E0@keel.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <716FB4BF-3A51-4C0A-82A9-19E4A15383CD@gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper Thread-Index: AcgHK/OBxGMN0lqlQjCW80y0dQcZIAAOo5fQ References: <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> <716FB4BF-3A51-4C0A-82A9-19E4A15383CD@gmail.com> From: "Jeff Larson" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 15:57:22 +0000 (UTC) > > Was really surprised that Mobius doesn't play all these tricks.. >=20 > Oh yes it does! But not without audio artifacts or rhythmic hiccups. =20 Wow, that's news to me. Can you elaborate on what you're hearing (over in the zonemobius group if you prefer). What you describe: > 1) On the EDP you can always hit Record to erase everything and start > a new loop This is basic re-Record I do it all the time. =20 > 2) I also keep one button to instantly retrigger the loop ("stutter"). This is Retrigger, also a common function. The only "artifact" you will have here is a slight trimming of the start of the loop to=20 adjust for latency. Sometimes I hear this if the loop starts immediately with a sharp attack but not usually. This affects the sound of the attack but not the rhythm, the loop will=20 begin playing from where it would be if there were zero latency. > 3) I the group tempo changes while I'm working a floating, non =20 > rhythmic, loop I might simply go Multiply-Record to cut it down to a =20 > duration that loops in synk. This is Unrounded Multiply, also common. Again the only artifact will be a slight trimming of the start of the loop for latency adjustment the first time it plays. The only serious artifacts I'm aware of in doing these operations have been bugs when you do them while generating output sync, which occasionally results in redundant retriggers making a "fluttering" sound. But if you have output sync turned off, which you would in the acoustic example, there isn't much happening that could cause artifacts other than the latency adjustment. =20 Has this been happening long or is it something in the most recent release? Thanks, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 16:13:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 798093BF6F; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 16:13:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <470662B1.5000104@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 11:13:37 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My worst looping gig... References: <20071005142247.AE4773BF65@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20071005142247.AE4773BF65@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 16:13:43 +0000 (UTC) Shades of Spinal Tap, billed second under the puppet show...picturing the ladies hoofing it around the stage, then changing costumes and coming back for more is killing me. Tying this thread into the tempo discussion...I once brought my guitar to my girlfriend's office party, as she worked with a number of musicians. There was a guy with a looper (DL4, maybe), and he had laid down this funky groove to which everyone was contributing, a bunch of hand drums, bass, guitars, etc. Trouble is, it was a four-bar pattern and the loop cut the fourth bar just one tiny hair too short. So people could just about get into it before having to recalibrate one's internal metronome. Everyone but me was drunk enough that they stuck with it anyway, not quite able to figure out why there was a hiccup in the pulse every eight seconds but too addled to really care. The other partygoers were trying to dance, having a great time and shouting encouragement, so this horrible three-legged beast of a jam just kept staggering along for an incalculable eternity until the plug was literally and mercifully pulled by a wayward dancer. so please, remember that even though you can play a rhythm and have the machine repeat it, by god, make sure that the machine groove divided by yours leaves no remainder. (is that the word? I was always terrible at math...) Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> But it gets more ludicrous. After we get off the stage, we discover >> what is lined up for the other performing acts. Totally crazy...5 old >> blue hair women and a man who are dancing and singing on the state to >> pre-recorded music. I mean, this is freakin' hilarious, everything >> from the Charleston to clog dancing. And it's the same damn >> performers each time...they just changed into different costumes in >> their tent and played musical chairs. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 16:40:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D03323BF58; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 16:40:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=IDi1LYBcZneONiVW1FdwnIxixUj8DsKW6CZvMPNrIGQ=; b=LFL5w5npWmE/2cdfJi2kfhE/o00l/9yreI16XsIhQFRRDhdTTKsRfeGlWOxkEYuzqVjWomynmxIYkREBqjocljnUXn2N6YATxO+cEyLV2E24/voa9HgHe1Ie/z6C+VH7c7hqx9X0eoG2qlt0Pjsoeutn3hnVEl0pYSPqpj50yXs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=KtYRQ7AqwMLldlpqtUqZ3XAqMuG2XZanfiu1cjFR1CW2GulHTuxjPj/PfwpyO0UaR4N0MFit6a98hVCZiytKFfybcEy12hlWzuEoTRiunqDJ9Crbr50bmVxmGPGrinqWbzgnl9lNnr1oMz9ut90cFNpHNwy8Ri/2RS+h5alRRSU= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56B8E0@keel.sailpoint.com> References: <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> <716FB4BF-3A51-4C0A-82A9-19E4A15383CD@gmail.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56B8E0@keel.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <93D62806-51EF-4295-927F-21715B841719@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Ending actions by Record in Mobius (Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:40:42 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 16:40:49 +0000 (UTC) Of course I can elaborate on this. My problems are when ending an action with REcord on the master track. Since I use the setting "Sync = Out" for setting the tempo by the first loop I have to do the destructive cuts on the master track to get the synced plug-ins instantly pick up the new tempo. I'd rather avoid using the first (master) track at all in Mobius and I have a special script that mutes it and copies its first recorded loop into track 2; just to avoid drop-outs and rhythmic glitches. This is working extremely well in a solo looping concert situation where I don't need to use the master track except for creating the very first loop. When applied to the slaved tracks, of Mobius, I have no problem to go Multiply-Record or Record-Record. But that's a different thing than this thread was about. I was only talking about a nice way of changing tempo of a looper to adjust to tempo changing live musicians and for this the EDP is my favorite. The two latest betas of Mobius are remarkably better in this regard, though. Per On 5 okt 2007, at 17.45, Jeff Larson wrote: >>> Was really surprised that Mobius doesn't play all these tricks.. >> >> Oh yes it does! But not without audio artifacts or rhythmic hiccups. > > Wow, that's news to me. Can you elaborate on what you're hearing > (over in the zonemobius group if you prefer). What you describe: > >> 1) On the EDP you can always hit Record to erase everything and start > >> a new loop > > This is basic re-Record I do it all the time. > >> 2) I also keep one button to instantly retrigger the loop >> ("stutter"). > > This is Retrigger, also a common function. The only "artifact" > you will have here is a slight trimming of the start of the loop to > adjust for latency. Sometimes I hear this if the loop starts > immediately with a sharp attack but not usually. This affects > the sound of the attack but not the rhythm, the loop will > begin playing from where it would be if there were zero latency. > >> 3) I the group tempo changes while I'm working a floating, non >> rhythmic, loop I might simply go Multiply-Record to cut it down to a >> duration that loops in synk. > > This is Unrounded Multiply, also common. Again the only artifact will > be a slight trimming of the start of the loop for latency adjustment > the first time it plays. > > The only serious artifacts I'm aware of in doing these operations have > been bugs when you do them while generating output sync, which > occasionally results in redundant retriggers making a "fluttering" > sound. But if you have output sync turned off, which you would in the > acoustic example, there isn't much happening that could cause > artifacts > other than the latency adjustment. > > Has this been happening long or is it something in the most recent > release? > > Thanks, > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 16:44:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C7093BF5A; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 16:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: <20071005142247.AE4773BF65@arsenic.violacea.com> <470662B1.5000104@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: <470662B1.5000104@mhorse.com> Subject: RE: My worst looping gig... Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 09:44:51 -0700 Message-ID: <000301c8076f$0d3e2540$27ba6fc0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgHbAFQNFT/Uyp+SeWc9PHivpQ1UwAAuiiA Content-Language: en-us X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: D6c260f3500005394.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 16:44:54 +0000 (UTC) Hey, one day that will be us ! ;-) ...picturing the ladies hoofing it around the stage, then changing costumes and coming back for more is killing me..... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 16:49:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA4313BF5E; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 16:49:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <20071005142303.119990@gmx.net> References: <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> <716FB4BF-3A51-4C0A-82A9-19E4A15383CD@gmail.com> <20071005102945.278030@gmx.net> <47062D46.9070207@tiscali.co.uk> <20071005142303.119990@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <449254E7-5ECE-4EE7-933E-3C4312BCC75A@blueyonder.co.uk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The woodshed Subject: Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:49:30 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <8bJC8B.A.MQG.ksmBHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 16:49:40 +0000 (UTC) I have been experimenting with this. I used a cheap dance mat from a playstation as a midi controller that triggered samples. I tap my foot / heel on the floor anyway when i play so it wasn't a big deal creating a little "tap technique". Tap one of every 4 trigs the loop. After a while I didn't even notice it was there, hitting a pedal I found a little uncomfortable. I tried mapping the tap tempo button in Ableton to the mat but while i was able to control speed, it inevitably drifted. I may try It would be great if there existed an "midi clock intelligent tap tempo" in ableton or a looper. Perhaps there does? Anyone know? Is there a software one available? I wonder if this could do it http://www.circular-logic.com/products.html dance mat - >in-time midi software -> Ableton midi clock sync This would stop drift. Very simple idea, one taps 4 beats and the sequencer or looper counts so that tap 1, 5 , 9 etc signal the beginning of the bar in 4/4. obviously only useful for keeping in time with other musicians with small tempo fluctuations, bit changes would never really work unless they were pretty gradual. This feature should be in Ableton, shame it isn't there. On 5 Oct 2007, at 15:23, Buzap Buzap wrote: > Hi guys > > first of all, I'm glad to have started such a fruitful discussion :) > > So, some comments: > > To me, it is important not only to lead the gang with my looping > but also be able to follow (what if the other guys _are_ the drummer > +bass player?). > People already look at me in strange ways when I come up with my > looper. I think you can earn quite some respect when you are also > able to follow others decently. Plus, it's simply my desire for > musical freedom. > In the situation I had described, an accordeonist was leading this > ethnic rubato style song with _very_ free tempo. The song wouldn't > be the same (not "breathing") if we'd stick to my stuff. > > Anyway, some ideas/best practices I've developed in the mean time: > Since you have to keep track of the time of the others constantly > anyway, you can do this: > - Put everything that is like ambient sound on a loop (or seperate > delay pedal) > - Fire the ryhthmical stuff as one shot samples > i.e. you record a rhythmic pattern of 4 beats. So that means, you > have to press the pedal at the exact time in every bar to trigger > your one-shot-loop. (The drummer uses his pedals all the time, so > why shouldnt you?). The good thing is, even if the tempo varies a > bit, you are still on track. So you keep on stomping through the > whole song... (poor pedal) > > On the RC-50 I would work it like this (forgot to deactivate TEMPO > SYNC in my last mail btw): > - Make the following settings: > - SINGLE MODE > - no loop sync, turn off tempo sync for all three phrases, turn > down Rhythm knob to off > - Assuming your loop is 4 beats do this: > - Start looping (begin with a distinct sound on beat 1) > - Play your 4 beats > - Keep on recording i.e. alltogether 8/12 beats > - Run your phrase as continuous loop > - Retrigger (Stutter) by pressing PHRASE pedal every 4 beats > - That means you are rhythmically pressing the pedal on every beat 1 > - If you go into OVERDUB mode quickly, you can sneak in some more > stuff in the first 4 beats (or some ambient sounds in beats 1-12) > > If you want to add ambient layers, I'd recommend using a seperate > delay pedal. (There is also a workaround in MULTI MODE using > external pedals, one phrase as ambient loop and the others as one- > shot-loops - but complicated). > > I hope this hasn't been too confusing. I'm still experimenting. > But I've discovered new ways to use my looper today :-)) > > Best regards > Buzap > > > -- > GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS. > Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 17:02:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92A783BF5E; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:02:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Ninja-PIM: Scanned by Ninja X-Ninja-AttachmentFiltering: (no action) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Ending actions by Record in Mobius (Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:02:33 -0500 Message-ID: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56B916@keel.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <93D62806-51EF-4295-927F-21715B841719@gmail.com> Thread-Topic: Ending actions by Record in Mobius (Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper) Thread-Index: AcgHboAzMfgTdoAZRCGuqjfKmT7LFgAAFsYg References: <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> <716FB4BF-3A51-4C0A-82A9-19E4A15383CD@gmail.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56B8E0@keel.sailpoint.com> <93D62806-51EF-4295-927F-21715B841719@gmail.com> From: "Jeff Larson" To: Resent-Message-ID: <3p5L7D.A.ZEH.u4mBHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:02:38 +0000 (UTC) > My problems are when ending an action with REcord on the master track. > Since I use the setting "Sync =3D Out" for setting the tempo by the=20 > first loop I have to do the destructive cuts on the master track > to get the synced plug-ins instantly pick up the new tempo. What are the artifacts, are they audio artifacts in the Mobius loop or is it that the sync being sent to the plugins is wrong so the plugins don't respond to the tempo change accurately? > When applied to the slaved tracks, of Mobius, I have no problem to go > Multiply-Record or Record-Record. But that's a different thing than= =20 > this thread was about. It's the same if you don't need to sync effects. Then you just leave sync off and you won't have these artifacts. The hardware equivalent of Mobius in Bidule generating output sync for VST effects would be an EDP with MIDI out connected to an Eclipse or some unit that can tempo-sync effects. In that setup the EDP is certainly more stable. But if you're not tempo-syncing effects then they would be about the same. Am I misunderstanding? Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 17:08:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64F913BF5A; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:08:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=m4mkcEQ39k6yKPqmTIt+KQ8GBt4XBZN5dkmbw6P6Qjs=; b=TGqbYRx/Quyi2PSbl/q+8JUNdlZ6dKII0XnpECd0YFkEUH1glv+lH1ZpPpzNFO2WXGnB6+qg2OqTebwLoDHCYD5T19UGyrm+jnexIfHVnMsI1oghvj6CAb55rjZzFjJbTfZvciBCgKgEDeFHgnva532Ng5TbdAIclpjA5DeLV9c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=qZ/IvCi3yLtD0GrP/RwIeBx/KCqU5SekGXzsZkDqJk6d5rgDGn5wT++0yoeqTv3mJVq8WxOZn/xsRgOykhKPyCLShhWFzIHbYV5pRJchRFNj1q299z4SJA3E4vJauFLy/5tMIXPQA7sAl67lxs46L4Tg+OuC5ccknYdydkzMTjc= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <000301c8076f$0d3e2540$27ba6fc0$@com> References: <20071005142247.AE4773BF65@arsenic.violacea.com> <470662B1.5000104@mhorse.com> <000301c8076f$0d3e2540$27ba6fc0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: My worst looping gig... Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 19:08:08 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:08:14 +0000 (UTC) Ok. I started a very intimate gig by playing a heavy bass line on flute through a bass box. When it was grooving nicely, after some twenty seconds, I kicked Record and prepared to kick Record a second time two bars later and catch the first loop to build on. But I never got that far. The concert stopped right there with the PA system slamming away FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH- FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH... I had forgotten to change the Record Mode to "toggle" instead of "sustain". stupid me. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 17:13:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8373B3BF5B; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:13:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,236,1188792000"; d="scan'208";a="83564576" X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4HAI4NBkdKgAAT/2dsb2JhbACBWWE3 Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 12:13:41 -0500 From: mwsmart@insightbb.com Subject: Re: My worst looping gig... In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_Gg/us8MtRH6TJ0mS+/pGpA)" Content-language: en X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal References: <20071005142247.AE4773BF65@arsenic.violacea.com> <470662B1.5000104@mhorse.com> <000301c8076f$0d3e2540$27ba6fc0$@com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:13:42 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_Gg/us8MtRH6TJ0mS+/pGpA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline I was playing jazz tunes at an open mic with my jazz box going into a Boss RC-20 (this was way before I came up with the huge looping setup). I recorded in the background loop of the sensitive ballad "My Foolish Heart". Unfortunately, I had forgotten to make sure that the "Guide" track knob was turned down after carrying the pedal in my backpack. So when I hit the pedal again to play back the loop, a deafeningly loud drum beat came out. SNARE!!! KICK!!! KICK !! KICK!! SNARE!!! KICK!!! KICK !! KICK!! The audience thought it was pretty funny. I turned down the knob and continued. The guide track on the RC-20 is nothing but an annoyance! I never use it or even look at the LEDs. Now I check every time to make sure the knob is turned down. Mark Smart http://www.marksmart.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Per Boysen Date: Friday, October 5, 2007 12:08 Subject: Re: My worst looping gig... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Ok. I started a very intimate gig by playing a heavy bass line > on > flute through a bass box. When it was grooving nicely, after > some > twenty seconds, I kicked Record and prepared to kick Record a > second > time two bars later and catch the first loop to build on. But I > never > got that far. The concert stopped right there with the PA > system > slamming away FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH- > FWAH- > FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH... > > I had forgotten to change the Record Mode to "toggle" instead > of > "sustain". stupid me. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > --Boundary_(ID_Gg/us8MtRH6TJ0mS+/pGpA) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline =3CDIV=3EI was playing jazz tunes at an open mic with my jazz box going = into a Boss RC-20 (this was way before I came up with the huge looping s= etup)=2E I recorded in the background loop of the sensitive ballad =22My= Foolish Heart=22=2E Unfortunately=2C I had forgotten to make sure that = the =22Guide=22 track knob was turned down after carrying the pedal in m= y backpack=2E So when I hit the pedal again to play back the loop=2C a d= eafeningly loud drum beat came out=2E=3C/DIV=3E =3CDIV=3E=26nbsp=3B=3C/DIV=3E =3CDIV=3E=26nbsp=3BSNARE!!! 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I never use it or even look at the LED= s=2E Now I check every time to make sure the knob is turned down=2E=3C/D= IV=3E =3CDIV=3E=26nbsp=3B=3C/DIV=3E =3CDIV=3EMark Smart=3C/DIV=3E =3CDIV=3E=3CA href=3D=22http=3A//www=2Emarksmart=2Enet=22=3Ehttp=3A//www= =2Emarksmart=2Enet=3C/A=3E=3C/DIV=3E =3CDIV=3E=3CBR=3E----- Original Message -----=3CBR=3EFrom=3A Per Boysen = =26lt=3Bperboysen=40gmail=2Ecom=26gt=3B=3CBR=3EDate=3A Friday=2C October= 5=2C 2007 12=3A08=3CBR=3ESubject=3A Re=3A My worst looping gig=2E=2E=2E= =3CBR=3ETo=3A Loopers-Delight=40loopers-delight=2Ecom=3CBR=3E=3CBR=3E=26= gt=3B Ok=2E I started a very intimate gig by playing a heavy bass line =3C= BR=3E=26gt=3B on=26nbsp=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B flute through a bass box=2E = When it was grooving nicely=2C after =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B some=26nbsp=3B =3C= BR=3E=26gt=3B twenty seconds=2C I kicked Record and prepared to kick Rec= ord a =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B second=26nbsp=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B time two bars l= ater and catch the first loop to build on=2E But I =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B neve= r=26nbsp=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B got that far=2E The concert stopped right t= here with the PA =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B system=26nbsp=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B slam= ming away FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-=3CBR=3E=26g= t=3B FWAH- =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH= -FWAH=2E=2E=2E=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B I had forgotten to chang= e the Record Mode to =22toggle=22 instead =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B of=26nbsp=3B = =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =22sustain=22=2E stupid me=2E=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26= gt=3B Greetings from Sweden=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B Per Boysen=3C= BR=3E=26gt=3B www=2Eboysen=2Ese (Swedish)=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B www=2Elooproom= =2Ecom (international)=3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B =3CBR=3E=26gt=3B= =3C/DIV=3E --Boundary_(ID_Gg/us8MtRH6TJ0mS+/pGpA)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 17:13:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6DE13BF65; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:13:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=B33E4aK2TmhEVA0uYUx6GrUmdzKoWKbHrJP4+AcTRRQ=; b=kcvls/Z718YRMB9BdDQhe6Kr2AiYFVL6oKJbb1+r411NfJFPgEOcrmRB9iUkm0epw1tmgoFLz5JGwfcBNb3T6dGx3yPbmNJAEkv3WKHKbNcY1eI/p0oEhZM0ZDTX0xW4oSApQyyENOjUdA9wPHAw7Y/+Fd4kZq26Can+YvQq7wI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=CT1k9OIytV0KUqazKymgky35tP7cOIb44m4fc9bkJJfL0BBXRV/BGE3f8sbbCtqd06ldMfMTJ/upvRvskY9h9/X9E2nM4F0waUJkn7mvv3Fyuddu1qSTbOSmg3/zxS83oVJE0txkjktUIaata5GlSobEg3efFvM7PSYbeliszIk= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56B916@keel.sailpoint.com> References: <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> <716FB4BF-3A51-4C0A-82A9-19E4A15383CD@gmail.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56B8E0@keel.sailpoint.com> <93D62806-51EF-4295-927F-21715B841719@gmail.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56B916@keel.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <27D1C298-C1C8-4E96-B5F1-6E923E8C0A32@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Ending actions by Record in Mobius (Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 19:13:54 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:13:59 +0000 (UTC) On 5 okt 2007, at 19.02, Jeff Larson wrote: > >> My problems are when ending an action with REcord on the master >> track. > >> Since I use the setting "Sync = Out" for setting the tempo by the >> first loop I have to do the destructive cuts on the master track >> to get the synced plug-ins instantly pick up the new tempo. > > What are the artifacts, are they audio artifacts in the Mobius loop or > is it that the sync being sent to the plugins is wrong so the plugins > don't respond to the tempo change accurately? Hm... I think it is mostly about latency compensating. Sometimes audio drops out from the loop after doing Overdub. >> When applied to the slaved tracks, of Mobius, I have no problem to go > >> Multiply-Record or Record-Record. But that's a different thing than >> this thread was about. > > It's the same if you don't need to sync effects. Then you just leave > sync off and you won't have these artifacts. The hardware equivalent > of Mobius in Bidule generating output sync for VST effects would be > an EDP with MIDI out connected to an Eclipse or some unit that can > tempo-sync effects. In that setup the EDP is certainly more stable. > But if you're not tempo-syncing effects then they would be about > the same. Am I misunderstanding? I'm tempo syncing lots of software effects. Sometimes outboards too, by MDI Clock out. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 17:16:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 486993BF5C; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:16:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) To: Loop List Message-Id: <4B162E82-78AF-4812-B459-6F56EE4B79F9@steve-lawson.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-696511100 From: Steve Lawson Subject: Re: How many loopers does Boss sell? Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:16:32 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dot1.hosting-ontap.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - steve-lawson.co.uk Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:16:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6-696511100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed >>>I was just wondering how many people are really out there with the same looper. > Does anybody know how many units Roland is selling world-wide?<<< Far too many given how lame their ideas for a looper are... http://steve.anthropiccollective.org/archives/2007/09/ what_music_gear.html Steve www.stevelawson.net - site www.stevelawson.net/zencart/ - shop http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson --Apple-Mail-6-696511100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>>I was just wondering = how many people are really out there with the same looper.
Does anybody know how many units = Roland is selling world-wide?<<<

Far too many given how lame = their ideas for a looper are...=A0

http://steve.anthropiccollec= tive.org - = blog
www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson



= --Apple-Mail-6-696511100-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 17:35:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1534D3BF5B; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:35:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <4B162E82-78AF-4812-B459-6F56EE4B79F9@steve-lawson.co.uk> References: <4B162E82-78AF-4812-B459-6F56EE4B79F9@steve-lawson.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-697651592 Message-Id: <5C2FCAEE-DFB8-473E-B3F9-BE33C5629A2C@blueyonder.co.uk> From: The woodshed Subject: Re: How many loopers does Boss sell? Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:35:32 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:35:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-697651592 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed hi, Read your site. just wondered, how would you achieve multiple time signatures without some form quantisation? ie 7/8 over 5/16 over 3/4? leon On 5 Oct 2007, at 18:16, Steve Lawson wrote: > >>>I was just wondering how many people are really out there with > the same looper. >> Does anybody know how many units Roland is selling world-wide?<<< > > Far too many given how lame their ideas for a looper are... > http://steve.anthropiccollective.org/archives/2007/09/ > what_music_gear.html > > Steve > www.stevelawson.net - site > www.stevelawson.net/zencart/ - shop > http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog > www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson > > > --Apple-Mail-1-697651592 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

hi,

Read your site. just wondered, = how would you achieve multiple time signatures without some form = quantisation?
ie 7/8 over 5/16 over 3/4?

leon

= On 5 Oct 2007, at 18:16, Steve Lawson wrote:

>>>I was just wondering how many people are = really out there with the same looper.
Does anybody know how many units Roland is selling = world-wide?<<<

Far too many given how lame = their ideas for a looper are...=A0

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= --Apple-Mail-1-697651592-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 17:38:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C92663BF5B; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:38:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Ninja-PIM: Scanned by Ninja X-Ninja-AttachmentFiltering: (no action) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Ending actions by Record in Mobius (Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 12:38:20 -0500 Message-ID: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56B92F@keel.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <27D1C298-C1C8-4E96-B5F1-6E923E8C0A32@gmail.com> Thread-Topic: Ending actions by Record in Mobius (Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper) Thread-Index: AcgHcyN/5TkjfoiuQyijJ+ITiOzKmgAAREKQ References: <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> <716FB4BF-3A51-4C0A-82A9-19E4A15383CD@gmail.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56B8E0@keel.sailpoint.com> <93D62806-51EF-4295-927F-21715B841719@gmail.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56B916@keel.sailpoint.com> <27D1C298-C1C8-4E96-B5F1-6E923E8C0A32@gmail.com> From: "Jeff Larson" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:38:19 +0000 (UTC) > > What are the artifacts, are they audio artifacts in the Mobius loop or > > is it that the sync being sent to the plugins is wrong so the plugins > > don't respond to the tempo change accurately? > Hm... I think it is mostly about latency compensating. Sometimes =20 > audio drops out from the loop after doing Overdub. So you're hearing an audio glitch in the Mobius loop when output sync is enabled and you do Multiply/Record and sometimes just a simple Overdub? Thanks I can look into that. Glitches after Overdub are most often caused by a low setting for the global parameter "Drift Resync Frames". This defaults to 256 which is actually way too low, it should be around 4096. When this is too low even the slightest amount of clock drift will cause Mobius to "skip" as it tries to match the clock. There is always clock jitter but it tends to cancel itself over time. On one play of the loop you may be 300 frames ahead of the clock, then next you will be -180 frames behind,=20 the next 295 ahead, etc. If Drift Resync Frames is too low this jitter will cause Mobius to retrigger all the time when it should just be ignored. Multiply/Record is much more complicated because the tempo and a lot of other internal sync state changes. Glitches here are usually caused by bugs. Thanks for the info, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 18:03:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 025F43BF30; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:03:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=NPRVghdy8b4czUcDrUhcIke43tBpb6b1PCXJSosJunW7VDNbH9a2+6FalD8sMsennDtwm+/YmqdePwfQu3oWKtYzjAr+iNFiAIXWCHOBU/CuYZVXJNBuIQa6KDRLVDSMjI5eak6P70kfgmhO4eicf/rDdjIyIZH9qO38QPFAfKU=; X-YMail-OSG: 85VEBr0VM1lQhdTosBNRtJlhjzVu84efKTesyTL9Ff2TVyt_Hijmq2OIlrZCNLYKaPivpfhB2wsF0kwDFhJ9mRhiunjiuxl_tgpFRVuzfVRP74iiAVo- Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 11:03:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Kupferschmid Subject: Re: How many loopers does Boss sell? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5C2FCAEE-DFB8-473E-B3F9-BE33C5629A2C@blueyonder.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <218552.2972.qm@web34313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <9JQ8iC.A.lcC.rxnBHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:03:23 +0000 (UTC) Steve, after reading your blog, I'm mostly inclined to agree, I'm not saying Boss or any other manufacturers of the smaller pedals are way off base, to say that they are looking at looping as a pure gimmick is missing the point, to someone who has been doing in professionally and using the EDP or anything of the like, sure, those pedals are a complete joke. I think maybe part of why those products were developed was to bring looping to the masses, but also in a form that beginners can get into it, I mean you don't go from crawling to running, I don't care who you are. Now, granted, I was using software loopers, like Ambiloop before I ever bought my RC2, but as easy and practical as I found the program to be, I wasn't able to use it in a live format, so I started small, and the RC2 was as small as I could get, now, if I tried it and didn't like using looping, I wasn't out a whole bunch of money, and hey, they DO make great practice tools, lucky for me, I outgrew it quickly and am wanting more flexibility and the ability to build compositions by using the looper as in instrument, rather than a tool. So I wouldn't go so far as to slag something like those products, but I can certainly see their limitations as far as pure looping is concerned, but it's like any piece of gear, it's not so much what you have or use, it's how creative you are with it, knowing your limitations and being able to work within or break out of those limitations. I've already decided when I step up to the next bit of gear(preferably the EDP), I actually was going to use the RC2 earlier in the chain so that I can effect it and then take whatever loop I made with it and drop it on the main looper and so on, so it will find it's use after I move on. My two cents, Brian PS I hate the guide tracks and the loop quantise myself. --- The woodshed wrote: > > hi, > > Read your site. just wondered, how would you achieve > multiple time > signatures without some form quantisation? > ie 7/8 over 5/16 over 3/4? > > leon > > On 5 Oct 2007, at 18:16, Steve Lawson wrote: > > > >>>I was just wondering how many people are really > out there with > > the same looper. > >> Does anybody know how many units Roland is > selling world-wide?<<< > > > > Far too many given how lame their ideas for a > looper are... > > > http://steve.anthropiccollective.org/archives/2007/09/ > > > what_music_gear.html > > > > Steve > > www.stevelawson.net - site > > www.stevelawson.net/zencart/ - shop > > http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog > > www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 18:21:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC8C33BF4B; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:21:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=o3uQr9xzHOoKyWghDQKOAoOCPdtEZhFpttR8x3E+Gkw=; b=OHyjou1Sh5efYa6N6pOk+Cl6Vcp/GtFaGbPkhxOsmRiwYZ0qxYEPxwpGHVo/pTOZWyJ+dZkGZlOm2WizeN/GNX0ff8fA6YoFO8jh3BbhsNUl2q86cqsjb08UtOiok0yx+aTSnaKlERs8k5sAZ173+sRsImda76UpCh5mx8tqGus= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=sh2n9sDjc75TUhOFEJCLy6ElzZejOHhR2oXjlR27eT1lUjo5eWv0hClzxAMZvHNo0ge8uvg8kS/bCSirgShrNEBxXCF8/BFqbD/mKoXoSw+lrv5u4sfbjmhzf3KuQvdTaYMFQZSXUhMaReye1HEiJ1UsuXRDKSV9mjqPQgoXG/k= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56B92F@keel.sailpoint.com> References: <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> <716FB4BF-3A51-4C0A-82A9-19E4A15383CD@gmail.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56B8E0@keel.sailpoint.com> <93D62806-51EF-4295-927F-21715B841719@gmail.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56B916@keel.sailpoint.com> <27D1C298-C1C8-4E96-B5F1-6E923E8C0A32@gmail.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56B92F@keel.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Ending actions by Record in Mobius (Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 20:21:47 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:21:53 +0000 (UTC) On 5 okt 2007, at 19.38, Jeff Larson wrote: > So you're hearing an audio glitch in the Mobius loop when output > sync is enabled and you do Multiply/Record and sometimes just > a simple Overdub? Thanks I can look into that. > > Glitches after Overdub are most often caused by a low > setting for the global parameter "Drift Resync Frames". > This defaults to 256 which is actually way too low, it > should be around 4096. When this is too low even the > slightest amount of clock drift will cause Mobius to > "skip" as it tries to match the clock. There is always > clock jitter but it tends to cancel itself over time. > On one play of the loop you may be 300 frames ahead of > the clock, then next you will be -180 frames behind, > the next 295 ahead, etc. If Drift Resync Frames > is too low this jitter will cause Mobius to retrigger > all the time when it should just be ignored. > > Multiply/Record is much more complicated because the > tempo and a lot of other internal sync state changes. > Glitches here are usually caused by bugs. Mobius is working so damn well for me now, in the latest beta, so lately I haven't put a lot time into researching the above referred problems, since I have avoided the situations where they tend to appear. But now when you bring it up and give good advice on the "Drift Resync Frames" setting I would like to take a couple of hours to check it out fully. I'll send you a report tomorrow. BTW, I don't have a problem with jitter in the sent out clock. If slaved plug-ins are slow to catch up a quick tempo change I might even think it sounds cool. But what may be really disturbing is when a loop skips over a fragment of its own timing, because then it goes off sync with your inner "human click-track" and that's just evil torture. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen (marking this thread with a huge flag) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 20:43:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D1643BF4F; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 20:43:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002301c80790$7e196e20$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> Reply-To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> <716FB4BF-3A51-4C0A-82A9-19E4A15383CD@gmail.com> <20071005102945.278030@gmx.net> <7778FF78-51D6-4A2E-A349-4BC6907C7F04@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 22:44:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+WLH0ZchUh+GXgMwWBd+uMZuJEkjVHsRaxuTF lTxLiDEVVZ5wKS4gOpKJ0DkcfGfFuI2y7fAjZ0Hoh0RyIYJrmf LYP7F9jntS2nvMKAG9OkSIMr62kXOMQ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 20:43:36 +0000 (UTC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jHiAN7aDiA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper > On 5 okt 2007, at 12.29, Buzap Buzap wrote: > >> Was really surprised that Mobius doesn't play all these tricks.. > > > Oh yes it does! But not without audio artifacts or rhythmic hiccups. > Never judge a piece of gear form its specification. Better try it, > listen to it and apply it. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 20:49:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77B713BF0B; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 20:49:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <006001c80791$43e4ce60$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> Reply-To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> <716FB4BF-3A51-4C0A-82A9-19E4A15383CD@gmail.com> <20071005102945.278030@gmx.net> <7778FF78-51D6-4A2E-A349-4BC6907C7F04@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 22:49:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+WEP6VgvpoMmPrbdj2AAHx3aE2g/y3LuK5HQw ZeWiB8QW3KdnLs6FMPcx46BdZ+xLeVW3iMTm2fX9/H5CgvZhdO 47/dTGadDXwDtLrbS7c2POKaWDZL3s7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 20:49:06 +0000 (UTC) please ignore my last mail, it was sent by accident. i wanted to send this link to a friend. just for your information: this is a video of "green grey" from ukraine and the song contains a sweet little chorus in the 2nd half using the english mf-word. tilmann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper > On 5 okt 2007, at 12.29, Buzap Buzap wrote: > >> Was really surprised that Mobius doesn't play all these tricks.. > > > Oh yes it does! But not without audio artifacts or rhythmic hiccups. > Never judge a piece of gear form its specification. Better try it, listen > to it and apply it. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 21:46:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A0CE3BF2D; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 21:46:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00ba01c80799$468b8ac0$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> Reply-To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> <716FB4BF-3A51-4C0A-82A9-19E4A15383CD@gmail.com> <20071005102945.278030@gmx.net> <47062D46.9070207@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 23:47:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18agXxW1n0UftecKGrybDJsBX/sDxbXl1jJheo tW04/TG8OBpyYa99+ReHLQ29xmlgECqowHDKluOp0+PmRlWk7S UzVQrBcLSXGkyQuC/8oTnVaAzzbp3KZ Resent-Message-ID: <_HiaDC.A.4zC.zCrBHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 21:46:27 +0000 (UTC) also, when you change the tempo, the band might interact with that, too. so you might end up in an interaction loop with everybody trying to catch the other's tempo... i had good results with tapping the repeater's tap tempo button. awkward finger position for tapping, though. when i used ableton live on stage, i would trigger stop and start with a little keyboard. like: hitting stop on the 4+ and stop on the 1. that worked really well. tilmann >> I had another trick in mind, but I don't know if it works: >> Sort of slowing down, speeding up the loop until you are in sync with the >> group. Don't know if you just need practice to get there or if it is too >> difficult. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 21:51:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FFFF3BF2F; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 21:51:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2033 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 05 Oct 2007 21:51:54 UTC Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:17:55 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: Digi Jamman; OT --Krzysia Gorniak From: Scott Duncan To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <70B3D106-7388-11DC-A5B4-0003931B6620@webworkz.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: <8OYP8C.A.RID.6HrBHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 21:51:55 +0000 (UTC) > As a new subscriber, I'm enjoying most all on LD. The 565 emails > since Sept. 17th however..... IS a bit overwhelming, Sure appreciate > LD's FAQ and nettiquette notes. ( emails on Shoes...!....?). Still > more grateful than anything. Rick Walker even invited me (sound/sight > unseen) to play @Y2K7 !!!?!!! ..... definitely a brave community..... > > Anyway, a couple questions for the loop: > > Got a Digi Jamman a week ago. Any users out there with tips / > suggestions for a newbie getting the most out of these (besides manual > & DigiT online)? Any websites? For using posting Jamman / Looping > creations / fav's, etc....? > > I've used a rackmount RDS-8000 for over a decade; now it's nice to > finally get a pedal going. > > OffTopic: I've been trying for a good while to get a CD from a Polish > musician named Krzysnia Gorniak. Would anyone in the LD community be > able to help me get a copy of her 2004 CD "Ultra"? I've requested > thru both her myspace page and her publisher ITI FilmStudio without > hearing back. Any out there familiar w/ this CD? Might be easier for > Europeans to get this disc. I'm happy to follow any directions for > getting hold of this sweet cool jazz. Will pay in cash, jewelry, > loops, stone artifacts, ....or even paypal... ( hope Ann doesn't miss > her jewelry...). > > Back On: > Thanks to Luis Angulo pricing his CD's so reasonably. I've just had my > 1st-ever review printed online @ cdbaby.com (of his Primeros Ciclos > CD) . Wonderful recordings! Thanks to LD too!! > Scott Duncan > www.myspace.com/scottduncanvideo.com > www.myspace.com/zaomusiccom > > www.myspace.com/krzysiagorniak From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 22:00:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36F7D3BF45; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 22:00:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00e301c8079b$2cd10400$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> Reply-To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <20071005142247.AE4773BF65@arsenic.violacea.com> <470662B1.5000104@mhorse.com> <000301c8076f$0d3e2540$27ba6fc0$@com> Subject: Re: My worst looping gig... Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 00:00:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18i3f5DAk1hSU8rkilrsTJwtjrAeCkvr9i5Hcw 5e64P6CNFCHznB5sTQif6o4yjrPu25LBByp0yCSMf+7yegrxvd mWeY9dZIok+HLf2XhNiG4mrSGbgdLnu Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 22:00:03 +0000 (UTC) oh MAN, you remind me of an embarassing stage experience i had... i played a duo with a drummer, he had looped something and triggered it by hitting a midi pad. i played chords with the sax through voice live. suddenly hell broke loose and the joint shook from another band playing. we stopped playing and listened: to ourselves a few minutes ago! i must have hit the repeater's record button accidentally at the beginning of the song. so the repeater had recorded until it was full (some minutes) and started playback on it's own. tilmann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 7:08 PM Subject: Re: My worst looping gig... > Ok. I started a very intimate gig by playing a heavy bass line on flute > through a bass box. When it was grooving nicely, after some twenty > seconds, I kicked Record and prepared to kick Record a second time two > bars later and catch the first loop to build on. But I never got that > far. The concert stopped right there with the PA system slamming away > FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH- > FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH-FWAH... > > I had forgotten to change the Record Mode to "toggle" instead of > "sustain". stupid me. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 22:21:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A932D3BF43; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 22:21:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <010201c8079e$34a9f580$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> Reply-To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <218552.2972.qm@web34313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: How many loopers does Boss sell? Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 00:22:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19GaPg6cY6Jl/ydEdLSNLyl6l+utZbMKuWiO00 EUiNiXmCDa0wOtFz/mq2oilXt4ETbyK10soLhlh9M5skxxYiLO Zh/EKHfAz9GBQ46k5T0SH8eCtG0aDNS Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 22:21:44 +0000 (UTC) > it's like any piece of gear, it's not so much what you > have or use, it's how creative you are with it, > knowing your limitations and being able to work within > or break out of those limitations. IMHO, that's a very valuable comment! my music changed when i switched loopers. > I actually was going to use > the RC2 earlier in the chain so that I can effect it > and then take whatever loop I made with it and drop it > on the main looper and so on, so it will find it's use > after I move on. i do that with the dl4 all the time. i use the dl4 because: 1. it's tight (no glitches with loops shorter than a second) 2. i can trigger single shots 3. i can half or double the tempo 4. i can use reverse mode 5. all the above can be done without bending down. tilmann without having to bend down From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 23:05:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A49AD3BF3F; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 23:05:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <013e01c807a4$4f3f0420$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> Reply-To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: Subject: OT: My worst looping gig... Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 01:06:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_013B_01C807B5.11F39430" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19OcEjIi6O3X7toCgFwj9QWrhRk8vC4WT0jCkJ X4lVQ3qvDK69Xw9tx/kz2hcdvHrtgDdrnrHE7LTUpWfdLns/eO Uujp27mM6TZp5O0ypyCAVipdNHVuGjz Resent-Message-ID: <0Ijb0.A.N-F.1MsBHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 23:05:26 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_013B_01C807B5.11F39430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i played moscow last winter and my rider explicitly said: i NEED a = PERSONAL monitor to hear myself on stage. when i came to the place, there was no monitor, but hey: they had put = the loudspeakers at the rear end of the hall, facing towards the stage! so i could hear myself... well, well. also they presented me with two wireless mikes - and were surprised when = i showed them my looper's output jacks. when i mentioned the stage rider i started a confusion about the meaning = of that expression - some translation problem. a technically gifted man soldered electrical cables to a cinch plug and = with some adapter fiddling finally we had sound. i had to fight with the slap delay from the speakers all across the = room, but whatever. the sound you get is the sound you get. after the soundcheck i went to the sound guy just to be nice and = somebody translated my thanks to him for doing the soundcheck and=20 taking care of everything. when i started playing, there was no sound. nothing. i informed, begged = and pleaded down from stage - nothing. finally somebody brought up the = sound so i could start. as i learned after the show and to my big surprise, the sound guy had = gone home before the concert started. he had misinterpreted my comment = as a: you may go now. later, while packing up, i heard a strange and pretty strong hum through = the speakers and went to the mixing board to find out what was going on: somebody had brought up ALL the faders to the max. only the last two, = mains out, were down pretty low. MAN was i glad the person had been = careful with the mains. he/she could have killed our eardrums... i forgot to mention that there was no catering - no food for me since = the morning flight. once somebody on this list made a comment in the direction of: "even = musicians have to occasionally eat". i turned this comment around in my head when i chewed the single pack of = peanuts in the hotel room. moscow is a wild place and i would go there again anytime. but one thing = is for sure: i'd be equipped with a stage rider in russian. smooth looping and cristal clear, feedback free stage sound to everyone = - tilmann ------=_NextPart_000_013B_01C807B5.11F39430 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i played moscow last winter and my = rider explicitly=20 said: i NEED a PERSONAL monitor to hear myself on stage.
when i came to the place, there was no = monitor, but=20 hey: they had put the loudspeakers at the rear end of the hall, facing = towards=20 the stage!
so i could hear myself...
 
well, well.
also they presented me with two = wireless mikes -=20 and were surprised when i showed them my looper's output = jacks.
when i mentioned the stage rider i = started a=20 confusion about the meaning of that expression - some translation=20 problem.
a technically gifted man soldered = electrical cables=20 to a cinch plug and with some adapter fiddling finally we had=20 sound.
i had to fight with the slap delay from = the=20 speakers all across the room, but whatever. the sound you get is the = sound you=20 get.
after the soundcheck i went to the = sound guy=20 just to be nice and somebody translated my thanks to him for doing = the=20 soundcheck and
taking care of everything.
 
when i started playing, there was no = sound.=20 nothing. i informed, begged and pleaded down from stage - nothing. = finally=20 somebody brought up the sound so i could start.
as i learned after the show and to my = big surprise,=20 the sound guy had gone home before the concert started. he had = misinterpreted my comment as a: you may go now.
 
later, while packing up, i heard a = strange and=20 pretty strong hum through the speakers and went to the mixing board to = find out=20 what was going on:
somebody had brought up ALL the faders = to the max.=20 only the last two, mains out, were down pretty low. MAN was i glad the = person=20 had been careful with the mains.
he/she could have killed our=20 eardrums...
 
i forgot to mention that there was no = catering - no=20 food for me since the morning flight.
once somebody on this list made a = comment in the=20 direction of: "even musicians have to occasionally eat".
i turned this comment around in my head = when i=20 chewed the single pack of peanuts in the hotel = room.
 
moscow is a wild place and i would go = there again=20 anytime. but one thing is for sure: i'd be equipped with a = stage rider=20 in russian.
 
smooth looping and cristal clear, = feedback free=20 stage sound to everyone - tilmann
 
------=_NextPart_000_013B_01C807B5.11F39430-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 5 23:13:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C5443BF47; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 23:13:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) To: Loop List Message-Id: <0EE6163A-0B75-4147-BA96-9C18BB6E6049@steve-lawson.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7-717909817 From: Steve Lawson Subject: Re: How many loopers does Boss sell? Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 00:13:10 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dot1.hosting-ontap.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - steve-lawson.co.uk Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 23:13:16 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7-717909817 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed >>>I'm not saying Boss or any other manufacturers of the smaller pedals are way off base, to say that they are looking at looping as a pure gimmick is missing the point, to someone who has been doing in professionally and using the EDP or anything of the like, sure, those pedals are a complete joke. I think maybe part of why those products were developed was to bring looping to the masses, but also in a form that beginners can get into it,<<<< Yeah, but simple isn't the point - it's what the feature set they do have says about what looping is that pisses me off. The DL4 is a great looper - simple, fairly inexpensive and without any of the nonsense that Roland and Digitech have added, whilst ignoring the useful stuff. There are people on this list making great music with simple loopers, they're just doing it in spite of what the people making them seem to assume they are for. cheers Steve www.stevelawson.net - site www.stevelawson.net/zencart/ - shop http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson --Apple-Mail-7-717909817 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
of the smaller pedals are way off base, to say = that
they are looking at looping as a = pure gimmick is
missing the point, to someone = who has been doing in
professionally and using = the EDP or anything of the
like, sure, = those pedals are a complete joke.=A0 I think
maybe part of why those products were developed was = to
bring looping to the masses, but also in a form = that
beginners can get into = it,<<<<

Yeah, but = simple isn't the point - it's what the feature set they do have says = about what looping is that pisses me off. The DL4 is a great looper - = simple, fairly inexpensive and without any of the nonsense that Roland = and Digitech have added, whilst ignoring the useful stuff.=A0

There are people on this list making great music = with simple loopers, they're just doing it in spite of what the people = making them seem to assume they are for.=A0

http://steve.anthropiccollec= tive.org - = blog
www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson



= --Apple-Mail-7-717909817-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 00:19:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD1823BF40; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 00:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <200710060019.l960J9V8057225@mail.cruzio.com> Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: DL-4 Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 17:19:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Thread-Index: AcgHln6fJQvHQaRUTiCfrcGJHhrK+gAAEAhA In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 00:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Here is how it works. you can program the expression pedal functionality for each preset and how the pedal behaves in loop mode as well. Let's take loop mode for example, and for now, limit ourselves to controlling the behavior of just one parameter with the expression pedal. In loop mode I use it primarily to controller the loop volume so I'll start there. Put the pedal in the heal down position and adjust the far right hand rotary knob (mix) counter clock wise (off position). Now press the expression pedal to toe down position, and adjust the right hand rotary knob clockwise to full on position. Now make a loop and test to see if the loop volume diminishes as you go to heal down position, and increases as you put your toe down. It's that easy. In preset mode you store your settings using the write procedure. In loop mode, it basically remembers your setting until you make manual changes to the rotary knobs And you can do it with every parameter knob, meaning you could have the expression pedal control up to five parameters, at once though I tend not to double up much myself. But imagine, using an analog modulation delay model and having the expression pedal move between a short delay with lots of modulation and regeneration ,(for a chorus or flange effect), and a long delay with little modulation and less regeneration ( for a more typical echo effect). I love using the expression pedal controlling regeneration, on analog delay models, to create run away dub echo effects that I in turn resample using another looper further down my signal chain.. If you have a habit of using the tap tempo function a lot, be warned that it will change what ever stored delay settings you have made with your presets and create interesting pitch bending effects as you move the expression pedal from the preset delay time to what ever you just changed using tap tempo. (but, it won't store the new changes unless you use the write procedure to store your new settings). That should cover it. Have fun, I think the expression pedal adds great functionality to the DL-4 and I'm amazed how many users don't use an expression pedal with not just this, but any of there big pedals. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 02:22:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 763573BED6; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 02:22:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0aaa01c807bf$796c5570$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Krispen Hartung" From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Condensor Microphones fro Live Room Recording Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 20:20:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0AA7_01C8078D.2DEA92B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 02:22:30 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0AA7_01C8078D.2DEA92B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd like to plug some better microphones into my M-Audio microtrack...it = has phantom power and can handle condensors. Can anyone recommend some = affordable, yet decent quality micrphones to pear in stereo? This would = be for recording jazz duos and trios (guitar/sax or guitar/sax/drums) in = a small studio room. I've read some good things about the AKG C1000s. = http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/C1000S Kris ------=_NextPart_000_0AA7_01C8078D.2DEA92B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'd like to plug some better = microphones into my=20 M-Audio microtrack...it has phantom power and can handle condensors. Can = anyone=20 recommend some affordable, yet decent quality micrphones to pear in = stereo? This=20 would be for recording jazz duos and trios (guitar/sax or = guitar/sax/drums) in a=20 small studio room.
 
I've read some good things about the = AKG=20 C1000s.  http://www.sweetwa= ter.com/store/detail/C1000S
 
Kris
 
------=_NextPart_000_0AA7_01C8078D.2DEA92B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 02:32:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CE623BF3D; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 02:32:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0acd01c807c0$ee71cd90$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Krispen Hartung" From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Condensor Microphones fro Live Room Recording Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 20:30:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0ACA_01C8078E.A2FBF1B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <7DnJ1B.A.A7D.9OvBHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 02:32:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0ACA_01C8078E.A2FBF1B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable anyone try this? http://www.americanmusical.com/item--i-ROD-NT4.html Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Krispen Hartung=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 8:20 PM Subject: Condensor Microphones fro Live Room Recording I'd like to plug some better microphones into my M-Audio = microtrack...it has phantom power and can handle condensors. Can anyone = recommend some affordable, yet decent quality micrphones to pear in = stereo? This would be for recording jazz duos and trios (guitar/sax or = guitar/sax/drums) in a small studio room. I've read some good things about the AKG C1000s. = http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/C1000S Kris ------=_NextPart_000_0ACA_01C8078E.A2FBF1B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
anyone try this? http://www.a= mericanmusical.com/item--i-ROD-NT4.html
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Krispen=20 Hartung
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 = 8:20=20 PM
Subject: Condensor Microphones = fro Live=20 Room Recording

I'd like to plug some better = microphones into my=20 M-Audio microtrack...it has phantom power and can handle condensors. = Can=20 anyone recommend some affordable, yet decent quality micrphones to = pear in=20 stereo? This would be for recording jazz duos and trios (guitar/sax or = guitar/sax/drums) in a small studio room.
 
I've read some good things about the = AKG=20 C1000s.  http://www.sweetwa= ter.com/store/detail/C1000S
 
Kris
 
------=_NextPart_000_0ACA_01C8078E.A2FBF1B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 03:27:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F34943BF3C; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 03:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0af701c807c8$931bb7a0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Krispen Hartung" From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 21:25:40 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0AF2_01C80796.47AD07B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 03:27:22 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0AF2_01C80796.47AD07B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, it's not looping....yet. I plan to get the RC-2 out on these = sessions eventually, but for now me and the sax player are just getting = to know each other and our styles.=20 This one clip from a session I recorded today with a new collaborator, = who I met at the 2nd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival. His name = is Brian McFadin and he moved here less than a year ago from California. = He's really quite an accomplished jazz sax player, studied at LACC, Cal = State L.A, etc . He has a CD out with Tony Malaby, who has played with = Paul Motian, etc; and he has another quintet CD out with John Bergamo, = Doug Webb, Per Warpe (guitar), and Kentaro Ebiko (bass), called = Succulent. Anway, I'm glad to have met him! We plan to get together and record every other week until we have enough = material for a CD. Check out the clip: http://www.box.net/shared/mh5o4t82a0 On this, I'm just playing my Taylor nylon string acoustic through my = Schertler "David" amp....no laptop, max/msp, or radical effects. It's = quiet liberating to sit down and play like this once in a while...sort = of tests whether I can still express myself with the instrument alone, = without the assistance of electronics. Next time, I hope to have some supporting loops in there. :) Kris ------=_NextPart_000_0AF2_01C80796.47AD07B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well, it's not looping....yet. I plan = to get the=20 RC-2 out on these sessions eventually, but for now me and the sax player = are=20 just getting to know each other and our styles.
 
This one clip from a session I recorded = today with=20 a new collaborator, who I met at the 2nd Annual Boise Experimental Music = Festival. His name is Brian McFadin and he moved here less than a year = ago from=20 California. He's really quite an accomplished jazz sax player, studied = at LACC,=20 Cal State L.A, etc . He has a CD out with Tony Malaby, who has played = with Paul=20 Motian, etc; and he has another quintet CD out with John Bergamo, Doug = Webb, Per=20 Warpe (guitar), and Kentaro Ebiko (bass), called Succulent. Anway, I'm = glad to=20 have met him!
 
We plan to get together and record = every other week=20 until we have enough material for a CD.  Check out the = clip:
 
http://www.box.net/shared/m= h5o4t82a0
 
On this, I'm just playing my Taylor = nylon string=20 acoustic through my Schertler "David" amp....no laptop, max/msp, or = radical=20 effects. It's quiet liberating to sit down and play like this once = in a=20 while...sort of tests whether I can still express myself with the = instrument=20 alone, without the assistance of electronics.
 
Next time, I hope to have some = supporting loops in=20 there. :)
 
Kris
 
------=_NextPart_000_0AF2_01C80796.47AD07B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 05:01:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35C9A3BF3E; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 05:01:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=4J2NgmMnOwUUA0iyab5auJvg/OUDe1tS7JxRXwHpB3RLGca5/N11zuYYbXLoQGQ1MnQfdoIZpgm5V1n9a/ZR7qQiDHMt4zWEnHGD1lE/CqvHae9bSwRqDuMxaOIehceJuhwaz7TxDaO4Yb9CUKtJ7xZg3rUWyEbMZZIQ2vRzGiM=; X-YMail-OSG: heQbzOMVM1nlNlDalxijJYllt7w3TPVTM.snsv9H5kBqYptKvLrIFP3v_etawu1GLPrQgY9W3pmxCWxGcn1wDjqk0VRpYGk7d1y5lTQ5V.slNmM3o1k- Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 22:01:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Kupferschmid Subject: Re: How many loopers does Boss sell? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <0EE6163A-0B75-4147-BA96-9C18BB6E6049@steve-lawson.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <551167.40140.qm@web34310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 05:01:30 +0000 (UTC) I see your point, well, it just goes to show you that big companies think they know what we want. --- Steve Lawson wrote: > >>>I'm not saying Boss or any other manufacturers > of the smaller pedals are way off base, to say that > they are looking at looping as a pure gimmick is > missing the point, to someone who has been doing in > professionally and using the EDP or anything of the > like, sure, those pedals are a complete joke. I > think > maybe part of why those products were developed was > to > bring looping to the masses, but also in a form that > beginners can get into it,<<<< > > Yeah, but simple isn't the point - it's what the > feature set they do > have says about what looping is that pisses me off. > The DL4 is a > great looper - simple, fairly inexpensive and > without any of the > nonsense that Roland and Digitech have added, whilst > ignoring the > useful stuff. > > There are people on this list making great music > with simple loopers, > they're just doing it in spite of what the people > making them seem to > assume they are for. > > cheers > > Steve > www.stevelawson.net - site > www.stevelawson.net/zencart/ - shop > http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog > www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 08:17:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 417863BF3A; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 08:17:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 04:20:09 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to The AM/FM Show To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <47074539.4080303@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 08:17:56 +0000 (UTC) THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, September 22 at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4. That's a little less than two hours from now. I will continue the special on E-dition Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. I will continue with issue 15 out of 16 so this special is drawing to a close soon. What's next? ;-) Tune in to WMUH Allentown at 91.7 FM, broadcasting from the campus of Muhlenberg College. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. WMUH's web site is http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 08:33:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B7663BF35; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 08:33:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=8A6K8Fm6LrKMj0KFfNJkgEHc5bHt2jQszXqaDAoN4lE=; b=F4lMtjmHigWE+EtXRkRruraf7EKeV6Xwew41fXHjBZJe8k5cKsFy9/AxTrvvqw716EeQL8LtnwG//iixXJ4ZjV+pfv4QMwrUm3b9Yg18V+UGzWfNyeRLo/JMIQbIIG7sjUBdmPMycXTJ59QqVLpiRS0F719d+nY+qIt/RPy/OVc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=qz4Wx1DosQLgOd+5ruMUAtYe7l0daudwzC/WTcbPqcxn65keptdE4jBJYx8nxgkmx8tW+PPDaVRw3m0hrMEYC20N1XLHXx2Lubtd2LuWjcv0lA25U5ZjWbUa0ekzvrgHPQXbE+QaBXlFHD7pKfEWWLoiHuKa6jw1at4wdkW0FaA= In-Reply-To: <0af701c807c8$931bb7a0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <0af701c807c8$931bb7a0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:33:29 +0200 To: Loopers X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 08:33:36 +0000 (UTC) On 6 okt 2007, at 05.25, Krispen Hartung wrote: > http://www.box.net/shared/mh5o4t82a0 > > On this, I'm just playing my Taylor nylon string acoustic through > my Schertler "David" amp....no laptop, max/msp, or radical effects. > It's quiet liberating to sit down and play like this once in a > while...sort of tests whether I can still express myself with the > instrument alone, without the assistance of electronics. Excellent! But why call in "assistance of electronics"? You should add them carefully this flow. I mean, everything you need to make great music is already there. It's a great joy to hear how you guys are looping 'n swooping ideas. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 09:06:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31CCC3BEE0; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 09:06:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=hlEFgbPc5K2Lw3EjnfcU0ldoeDXeEGzUNzW/Ub8m9ag=; b=Mii8tQ0N86xl8bohyD40X++o6ux5uWRISTc8tFY+4pL38vhtBFwEq5fIi8OGRO8r7AlqF19YMy2nNrs+nHroh5NM6ubrPVbksEDizbEuir2Lpy1VTqlgHrjizSOD9pbgGKedSQtV/JtLJZ0zgvQwoMuIi1rd9z0r9MeVggzeiSU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ctWKZKl7bmQ+wlKNb1fElaSOFzMpZH9GtSfyKC98Yb7IWPYveW7QuAQwjboVyUiue39KPWpOfEskdGVJzDQGFDluxWMsdi04oY3VpyMSvRUAXk8P4UyCaBleErYKiEqvMH1urWFtJdJiFiXGvhXhHvCu15kC3FubZM+ctv+bUUQ= In-Reply-To: <013e01c807a4$4f3f0420$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> References: <013e01c807a4$4f3f0420$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: OT: My worst looping gig... Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 11:06:18 +0200 To: Loopers X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 09:06:24 +0000 (UTC) On 6 okt 2007, at 01.06, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > when i started playing, there was no sound. nothing. i informed, =20 > begged and pleaded down from stage - nothing. finally somebody =20 > brought up the sound so i could start. > as i learned after the show and to my big surprise, the sound guy =20 > had gone home before the concert started. he had misinterpreted my =20 > comment as a: you may go now. > > later, while packing up, i heard a strange and pretty strong hum =20 > through the speakers and went to the mixing board to find out what =20 > was going on: > somebody had brought up ALL the faders to the max. only the last =20 > two, mains out, were down pretty low. MAN was i glad the person had =20= > been careful with the mains. > he/she could have killed our eardrums.. Ha, ha... reminds me of a gig in Bangkok. This wasn't live looping =20 music though, we were a trio performing alternative rock with a touch =20= of electronic dance music =E0 la KLF (live guitar, live vocals and some =20= canned back-tracks on DAT). We sound-checked at the venue at day-=20 time. It was hot as a sauna because it was a huge metallic stadium =20 and air coolers were not run during empty daytime to save money. =20 Anyway, we were going to sing live with acoustic guitars at night so =20 the sound check was crucial. The sound man couldn't find the correct =20 frequencies to kill off by EQ in order to fight the horrible feedback =20= inside that huge box. So I walked over to his booth and together we =20 solved it and marked up with gaffa tape were he should put the =20 faders. Fine - "See you tonight, then". Off to hotel for shower and =20 food. A guy from the record label drove us back to the venue at =20 night. It was packed with people and as soon as I plugged in an =20 acoustic guitar the air just came alive in horrible screaming =20 feedback tone. Ok, blinded by the white stage lights I plugged it out =20= to give the sound man five seconds to correct the faders according to =20= our tape markings on the mixer. Tried it again, same howling =20 feedback. The lead singers had the same problem with their mics. I =20 catched a sudden glimpse of the sound man, 40 meters away, and oh-my-=20 god it was a different guy standing there now trying to figure out =20 how the system works! We played the electric set but had to cut down =20 the concert "for technical reasons" and walked, depressed and angry, =20 out into the backstage area. And guess what, comfortably installed in =20= our backstage room was my sound man, now smoking grass and offering =20 our cold beer to a bunch of girls he had invited from the street. =20 Phiew... Before we even got a chance to start yelling at him he =20 cracked up widely: "Hey, guys, I'm your best friend, so I have helped =20= you to get the party started! (stupid grin)". Communication breakdown. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 10:26:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07F8A3BF2C; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:26:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 12:26:16 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <4706571B.9070303@tiscali.co.uk> Message-ID: <20071006102616.298480@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20071005151514.298510@gmx.net> <4706571B.9070303@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: How many loopers does Boss sell? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19vf+dOR99vh/hhW6ZphBpGYVxaBIZ/vJPnWO0GGf MDfD7cb3d06Ylj0TOmsizt7Tntr8KBNnAxOA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-GMX-UID: gCRhLfACaHItVNNJ3SQl+uBiamdhZEQd Resent-Message-ID: <8RibuB.A.mbC.KL2BHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:26:18 +0000 (UTC) I was looking for a rough guess. They say that Roland sold half as much RC-20XL as their GT-6... What would you guys guess? Buzap -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 10:35:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C94D3BF30; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:35:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=uBN0McXDcuUfIgE916DSxXjI9EY7LAMKTlJopx6mOJrY/CIv8p+kRzpfX5blZuuRU09k9UV8cNSyrlPt24V605lMDJYS5c1W3cQWRHz2GbUrEsQCSgmteV83FI8AuYBA2sy3OBAD0u9+wzXhu4banWvKbWdeC+sZkWpnW6UvfFc=; X-YMail-OSG: R6qa_VgVM1kUZATY4IKpr9tBPBz4QeXoYLKXdhCVyF4Ei2J6rw4LgCldsdxgXD3cPAUcgXcQ3SdQfdSS4065RYnSvo41eJdY Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 03:35:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <716FB4BF-3A51-4C0A-82A9-19E4A15383CD@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <748273.65596.qm@web38610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:35:43 +0000 (UTC) I stopped trying to do such a thing with other musicians,maybe for one or two songs,if i use loops with bands at all i just use it as a special effect like short reverse sounds,half speed drones or build ambient sounds in the background that dont interfere with the bands or my energy,the DL4 or other unquantisized loopers can work really nice for things like that,you´d be surprise how many musicans who master their instrument quite well cannot follow a simple drum machine.Ive also found that it works better with less musicians like a duo than with a whole band,a lot of it relies on good stage monitoring to start with which is still a gamble to this day... But if u do want to use a looper that has the functions to adapt to a human beings tempo in realtime their isnt any other that come close to the EDP! Luis --- Per Boysen wrote: > On 5 okt 2007, at 10.08, Buzap Buzap wrote: > > > To make a long story short: What looping features > & skills do you > > need to be able to play live with other musicians? > > How do you keep in sync and keep up with tempo > properly (acoustic > > instruments only and no drummer with a midi > trigger)? > > > In my experience the EDP is excellent for this. The > trick is to not > loop all the time and always be prepared delete your > loop in a blink > to react on what is happening in the group. > > 1) On the EDP you can always hit Record to erase > everything and start > a new loop and the second time you hit Record (or > any alternative > ending) you're in a new loop that is syncing to the > new "acoustic" > tempo. > > 2) I also keep one button to instantly retrigger the > loop ("stutter"). > > 3) I the group tempo changes while I'm working a > floating, non > rhythmic, loop I might simply go Multiply-Record to > cut it down to a > duration that loops in synk. > > This kind of "looper abuse" is not possible with > Mobius on a laptop, > although Mobius does well handle most EDP tricks and > adds its own. > This good live synk functionality is the reason I > still keep my old > EDP. I can't think of any bette way to sync > electronics than an EDP > used in the above described way. The longer loop you > create the more > accurate will the sync be. I typically start out > with two or one bars. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 12:22:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50B853BF23; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 12:22:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: References: <0af701c807c8$931bb7a0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <22787C3A-1005-4BE7-9067-F1BD95B57506@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: Re: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 06:24:27 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 12:22:52 +0000 (UTC) Nice - just the way it is!!! (ie: no electronics) > On 6 okt 2007, at 05.25, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> http://www.box.net/shared/mh5o4t82a0 >> >> On this, I'm just playing my Taylor nylon string acoustic through >> my Schertler "David" amp....no laptop, max/msp, or radical >> effects. It's quiet liberating to sit down and play like this once >> in a while...sort of tests whether I can still express myself with >> the instrument alone, without the assistance of electronics. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 12:45:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E6723BF2E; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 12:45:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <22787C3A-1005-4BE7-9067-F1BD95B57506@mac.com> References: <0af701c807c8$931bb7a0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <22787C3A-1005-4BE7-9067-F1BD95B57506@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 06:46:36 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 12:45:01 +0000 (UTC) On Oct 6, 2007, at 6:24 AM, Paul Mimlitsch wrote: > Nice - just the way it is!!! (ie: no electronics) > >> On 6 okt 2007, at 05.25, Krispen Hartung wrote: >> >>> http://www.box.net/shared/mh5o4t82a0 >>> >>> On this, I'm just playing my Taylor nylon string acoustic through >>> my Schertler "David" amp....no laptop, max/msp, or radical >>> effects. It's quiet liberating to sit down and play like this >>> once in a while... >>> sort of tests whether I can still express myself with the >>> instrument alone, without the assistance of electronics. Which brings me to a topic I've been wondering about lately: 1) how many people on the list do solo non looping gigs? 2) "the beauty of the single not line" - how many guitar players/ players of multitimbral instruments can do an improv. gig using only single note lines and hold an audiences attention? for how long? 3) if you're not comfortable doing this, is that because of preference (ie: vertical vs. linear hearing)? Being raised on a particular instrument? Or did you gravitate towards your preferred instrument due to how you hear things? 4) if you play a mono timbral instrument (horns etc) is the desire to "loop" a means of filling up vertical space to compliment your single note line play? Not sure if this makes sense - Just curious. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 13:28:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B06A3BF0D; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 13:28:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 15:28:38 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <001101c8081c$cda813b0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcgIFrWnt7lHLG/FQ7+CV2uyjwzH1gABA5iA X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OId48J+b51k= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 13:28:13 +0000 (UTC) > Which brings me to a topic I've been wondering about lately: Seems to be survey time this time of the year... First of all, some background: My first (and to this day, I believe most important) instrument has been the piano, or more generally keyboards. I then started to more or less learn (some of them to a very minimal degree) in that order: trombone, drums, (alto and soprano) saxophone, bass guitar, guitar. As a composer, I'm more into the Bach(Beethoven/Wagner/Mahler) line than into the Mozart line. Meaning lots of (sometimes rather simple) stuff going on at the same time, with equal importance forming the whole, instead of one beautiful melody with perhaps only some added backdrop (chords). And I also firmly believe (at least when doing tonal, not primarily rhythmic or noise stuff) in the Bach concept of superordinant two-voice arrangement, i.e. that the composition while containing lots of stuff going on, is rooted into the interplay of melody and bass line. That being said... > 1) how many people on the list do solo non looping gigs? Mhmmm, is it a solo gig if I play piano and sing at the same time? I believe within the scope of your question, rather not. I played a few solo gigs in the past, most of them on the piano, although some on the trombone as well. Some of the piano gigs not with original material, though (jazz piano). Is it also considered "solo non looping" if I use a delay? A chorus? > 2) "the beauty of the single not line" - how many guitar > players/ players of multitimbral instruments can do an > improv. gig using only single note lines and hold an > audiences attention? for how long? I never tried that on the piano. I believe on the piano it might be even harder than on the guitar, because you don't have that many means of putting expression into a single note (bending, volume pedal, vibrato,...) > 3) if you're not comfortable doing this, is that because of > preference (ie: vertical vs. linear hearing)? Being raised > on a particular instrument? Or did you gravitate towards > your preferred instrument due to how you hear things? See above > 4) if you play a mono timbral instrument (horns etc) is the > desire to "loop" a means of filling up vertical space to > compliment your single note line play? Among other things (sound design, multiinstrumental stuff). I also did that non-looping by using the technique of playing notes alternatingly in different registers of the instrument, thus giving the impression of two lines happening at once (something like Bobby McFerrin on trombone). Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 13:31:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53EFA3BF22; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 13:31:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 620226226-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.207.95 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4HAPIqB0dPQs9f/2dsb2JhbACCKKA/ Message-ID: <47078E37.7070901@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:31:35 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) References: <0af701c807c8$931bb7a0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <22787C3A-1005-4BE7-9067-F1BD95B57506@mac.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 13:31:27 +0000 (UTC) Paul Mimlitsch wrote: > Which brings me to a topic I've been wondering about lately: > > 1) how many people on the list do solo non looping gigs? not these days, except playing acoustic guitar for kids once a year > > 2) "the beauty of the single not line" - how many guitar players/ > players of multitimbral instruments can do an improv. gig using only > single note lines and hold an audiences attention? for how long? again not these days, used to do bass solos on jazz gigs, generally single note lines without pre-determined structure. Kept it short, but it did seem to grab the audience's attention on occasion. Anyway, it's an interesting thought, I'm inspired to put some single note line stuff into the next loop gig > > 3) if you're not comfortable doing this, is that because of preference > (ie: vertical vs. linear hearing)? Being raised on a particular > instrument? Or did you gravitate towards your preferred instrument due > to how you hear things? Electric guitar just seems to be a perfect instrument for looping, so many different sounds and relatively portable. > > 4) if you play a mono timbral instrument (horns etc) is the desire to > "loop" a means of filling up vertical space to compliment your single > note line play? If I'm using a mono instrument (rare) I'm more concerned about rhythm than vertical harmony. A lot of the time I'm aiming for the impression of the loop flowing out of the "solo" Guitar becomes mono-timbral (more or less) when using an ebow. > > Not sure if this makes sense - Just curious. Interesting thoughts, useful to remember that the whole point is to create music, and not to always focus on how to make the loops into music. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 14:01:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6926E3BF27; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0b8801c80821$1c55ff00$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Krispen Hartung" From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <0acd01c807c0$ee71cd90$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <47074357.7090006@servingpeace.com> Subject: Re: Condensor Microphones fro Live Room Recording Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 07:59:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Good input, Sam. I will take it seriously and investigate these mics. Kris > > I also have a pair of AT-4041s and those seem to have a much clearer and > flatter response. If I could afford it I would try the AT-4051 because > people seem to like it much more, but for my current budget the 4041s > are my best condensers by far. Really nice on drum overheads and > coincidentally my Taylor nylon string (playing jazz) ;-) > > Peace > - Sam From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 14:02:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E8F73BF26; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <001101c8081c$cda813b0$1001a8c0@succubus> References: <001101c8081c$cda813b0$1001a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <78908728-79AE-4135-AD7C-5740AD1E8831@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: Re: AW: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 08:04:31 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:02:58 +0000 (UTC) On Oct 6, 2007, at 7:28 AM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > > That being said... > >> 1) how many people on the list do solo non looping gigs? > Mhmmm, is it a solo gig if I play piano and sing at the same time? > I believe > within the scope of your question, rather not. I played a few solo > gigs in > the past, most of them on the piano, although some on the trombone > as well. > Some of the piano gigs not with original material, though (jazz > piano). Is > it also considered "solo non looping" if I use a delay? A chorus? Yes, though adding processing creates a different instrument/ approach than that on a "dry" instrument. I should have been more specific: "non processed/ natural/ dry/ naked" instrument. > >> 2) "the beauty of the single not line" - how many guitar >> players/ players of multitimbral instruments can do an >> improv. gig using only single note lines and hold an >> audiences attention? for how long? > I never tried that on the piano. I believe on the piano it might be > even > harder than on the guitar, because you don't have that many means > of putting > expression into a single note (bending, volume pedal, vibrato,...) Something to explore (?) ..... > >> 3) if you're not comfortable doing this, is that because of >> preference (ie: vertical vs. linear hearing)? Being raised >> on a particular instrument? Or did you gravitate towards >> your preferred instrument due to how you hear things? > See above > >> 4) if you play a mono timbral instrument (horns etc) is the >> desire to "loop" a means of filling up vertical space to >> compliment your single note line play? > Among other things (sound design, multiinstrumental stuff). I also > did that > non-looping by using the technique of playing notes alternatingly in > different registers of the instrument, thus giving the impression > of two > lines happening at once (something like Bobby McFerrin on trombone). > > Rainer > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 14:05:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D2583BF28; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:05:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0bb601c80821$e79c9200$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Krispen Hartung" From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <0af701c807c8$931bb7a0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 08:05:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:05:20 +0000 (UTC) *************************** > Excellent! > > But why call in "assistance of electronics"? You should add them > carefully this flow. I mean, everything you need to make great music is > already there. It's a great joy to hear how you guys are looping 'n > swooping ideas. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen Thanks, Per. ...or we might just add a drummer who can play free and then we really cooking. I have one picked out already and he is ready to play! I may loop some basic bass motifs and grooves....Paul...I think you've played in this config before. I thought it sounded nice. ************************************** > My suggestion: don't - it's beautiful the way it is. > Rainer > Nice - just the way it is!!! (ie: no electronics) It's very tempting. Thanks! *********************** Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 14:24:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1A6A3BF26; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:24:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 10:24:49 EDT Subject: Re: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cb3.1c724571.3438f4b1_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: <8UEGOB.A.L2H.zq5BHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:24:51 +0000 (UTC) --part1_cb3.1c724571.3438f4b1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 10/6/07 8:45:08 AM, pmimlitsch@mac.com writes: > (ie: vertical vs. linear hearing)?=A0 >=20 paul.....what do you mean by this? "Who needs a six pac when ya got a keg!".....scoots galore "THOUGHTS ON=20 EXCERCISE" www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com --part1_cb3.1c724571.3438f4b1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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paul.....what do you mean by this?




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See what's=20= new at http://www.aol.com --part1_cb3.1c724571.3438f4b1_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 14:47:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA8E93BF2E; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-774086071 Message-Id: <73357F98-00C9-4B1A-8DD2-7F6B596B967A@mac.com> From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: Re: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 08:49:27 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <6vvdy.A.PjB.XA6BHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:47:51 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-774086071 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I've always wondered why someone chooses a particular instrument as their "voice" - multitimbral vs mono timbral - and, based on my own experience and conversations with others came to the conclusion (assumption?) that, in a lot of cases, it has to do with how you hear things/ organize sounds, in your head. When you think of a melody are you hearing single notes flowing one after the other, multiple voices running parallel, or more texturally (ie: notes stacked on top of each other)? When you pick up your instrument do you gravitate towards single note lines or a more chordal approach and is this based on preference or the physicality of the instrument? Another question I should have asked in my original post was: How many people have switched instruments to meet their needs. On Oct 6, 2007, at 8:24 AM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 10/6/07 8:45:08 AM, pmimlitsch@mac.com writes: > > >> (ie: vertical vs. linear hearing)? > > > paul.....what do you mean by this? > > > > > "Who needs a six pac when ya got a keg!".....scoots galore > "THOUGHTS ON EXCERCISE" > > www.ct-collective.com > http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 > > > > > ************************************** > See what's new at http://www.aol.com --Apple-Mail-1-774086071 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've always wondered why someone = chooses a particular instrument as their "voice" - multitimbral vs mono = timbral - and, based on my own experience and conversations with others = came to the conclusion (assumption?) that, in a lot of cases, it has to = do with how you hear things/ organize sounds, in your head.=A0 When you = think of a melody are you hearing single notes flowing one after the = other, multiple voices running parallel, or more texturally (ie: notes = stacked on top of each other)?=A0 When you pick up your instrument do = you gravitate towards single note lines or a more chordal approach and = is this based on preference or the physicality of the instrument?=A0 = Another question I should have asked in my original post was:=A0 How = many people have switched instruments to meet their = needs.=A0
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On Oct 6, 2007, at 8:24 AM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote:


In a message dated 10/6/07 8:45:08 = AM, pmimlitsch@mac.com = writes:


(ie: vertical vs. linear = hearing)?=A0

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= --Apple-Mail-1-774086071-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 14:50:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F2783BF30; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:50:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 371 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:50:51 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=kOBgP9wdllNLpPGUyQFxL/J5msz7XIcajceD1Cyyn5k=; b=l5emgdwBZzvcgDTr5iFgToy2WFnBVlzbpEIWlXw3cEmvTQSbzmB3cdbfLMXTmvMku6T3mTAMrJ/nqo61MaltGoy4293fBwBnKtnk8Xoh4KVZ5FUyk8owASy2JJhi8IivKQgJzVm3TTVd3vfc6dTn2Mhm4avubY3yrOK9qmqhsow= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DQZ9nzcdTuo+5gXZK40VoF56e4M0goqhuMXf9JD9sG1Z6xN2nZxyznvLPjCHNCmXSor7KT0WwR9E18ZReVkFnJ9ui3ZcDuHk4AfLJDIggxU0xfWgg0uV2NGRRG5bVv5N2d3IsELIWpwTK4YWtDgHuv5VYo4Ezgqs6aP3UvLgCCA= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 07:44:38 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <0af701c807c8$931bb7a0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <22787C3A-1005-4BE7-9067-F1BD95B57506@mac.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:50:52 +0000 (UTC) On 10/6/07, Paul Mimlitsch wrote: > > > Which brings me to a topic I've been wondering about lately: > > 1) how many people on the list do solo non looping gigs? Never. > > 2) "the beauty of the single not line" - how many guitar players/ > players of multitimbral instruments can do an improv. gig using only > single note lines and hold an audiences attention? for how long? Never tried it. It certainly get dull for me pretty quickly (as a player). > > 3) if you're not comfortable doing this, is that because of > preference (ie: vertical vs. linear hearing)? Being raised on a > particular instrument? Or did you gravitate towards your preferred > instrument due to how you hear things? Personally, the percussive note envelope of the guitar (the sound is dying off almost as soon as its sounded) does not lend itself well to unaccompanied single lines. I so envy the bowed instruments or horns that can make a note get louder after the initial attack, and for years used a compressor, volume pedal and reverb/delay to cop some of that ability. > > 4) if you play a mono timbral instrument (horns etc) is the desire to > "loop" a means of filling up vertical space to compliment your single > note line play? Yep. I like harmony, and the amount of effort required to learn how to do it all at once via advanced fingerpicking (a la Kottke or Bensusan) is beyond me at this point in life. There's only so much time in the day and so many days left on my calendar. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 14:52:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F03223BF25; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:52:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 10:52:33 -0400 From: Dan Ash Subject: re: Condensor Microphones fro Live Room Recording To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <4707A131.9040802@Verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) Resent-Message-ID: <0iHn3.A.nGC.8E6BHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:52:44 +0000 (UTC) The AKG C-3000 is quite happy even with the 30 volt phantom power available from the Microtrack 2496, and I've used a pair of the Oktava MK012 with good results. I assume you've also seen the list of mics that M-Audio has tested - it's on the support pages for the 2496. Dan Ash White Plains, NY > Subject: > Condensor Microphones fro Live Room Recording > From: > "Krispen Hartung" > Date: > Fri, 5 Oct 2007 20:20:32 -0600 > > To: > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > I'd like to plug some better microphones into my M-Audio > microtrack...it has phantom power and can handle condensors. Can > anyone recommend some affordable, yet decent quality micrphones to > pear in stereo? This would be for recording jazz duos and trios > (guitar/sax or guitar/sax/drums) in a small studio room. > > I've read some good things about the AKG C1000s. > http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/C1000S > > Kris > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 14:57:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 709F33BF2D; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:57:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 148093 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:57:52 UTC From: midifriedchicken@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: How many loopers does Boss sell? Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:57:50 +0000 Message-Id: <100620071457.2480.4707A26E000B6C7D000009B02216554886020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWlkaWZyaWVkY2hpY2tlbkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_2480_1191682670_0" Resent-Message-ID: <8w6zTB.A.HgC.wJ6BHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 14:57:52 +0000 (UTC) --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_2480_1191682670_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Steve, I gotta disagree. The RC-50, while flawed, can be a wonderful thing. Its features are more geared to a specific type of looping. Not yours, but I've used it with great results with other musicians. It seems to be more of an ensemble device. For instance, I occasionally perform with a bassist and drummer. I import percussion loops so the drummer can play in sync. Adding parts as we play, we get some impressive jams that sound way more interesting then a plain trio. The LP1, EDP, DL4 cannot do this, at least not without a laptop. So, it may not be your cup of tea, but it works great for some people. MFC -------------- Original message -------------- From: Steve Lawson >>>I'm not saying Boss or any other manufacturers of the smaller pedals are way off base, to say that they are looking at looping as a pure gimmick is missing the point, to someone who has been doing in professionally and using the EDP or anything of the like, sure, those pedals are a complete joke. I think maybe part of why those products were developed was to bring looping to the masses, but also in a form that beginners can get into it,<<<< Yeah, but simple isn't the point - it's what the feature set they do have says about what looping is that pisses me off. The DL4 is a great looper - simple, fairly inexpensive and without any of the nonsense that Roland and Digitech have added, whilst ignoring the useful stuff. There are people on this list making great music with simple loopers, they're just doing it in spite of what the people making them seem to assume they are for. cheers Steve www.stevelawson.net - site www.stevelawson.net/zencart/ - shop http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_2480_1191682670_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Steve,
I gotta disagree. The RC-50, while flawed, can be a wonderful thing. Its features are more geared to a specific type of looping. Not yours, but I've used it with great results with other musicians. It seems to be more of an ensemble device. For instance, I occasionally perform with a bassist and drummer. I import percussion loops so the drummer can play in sync. Adding parts as we play, we get some impressive jams that sound way more interesting then a plain trio. The LP1, EDP, DL4 cannot do this, at least not without a laptop.  So, it may not be your cup of tea, but it works great for some people.
 
MFC
 
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From: Steve Lawson <steve@steve-lawson.co.uk>
>>>I'm not saying Boss or any other manufacturers
of the smaller pedals are way off base, to say that
they are looking at looping as a pure gimmick is
missing the point, to someone who has been doing in
professionally and using the EDP or anything of the
like, sure, those pedals are a complete joke. I think
maybe part of why those products were developed was to
bring looping to the masses, but also in a form that
beginners can get into it,<<<<

Yeah, but simple isn't the point - it's what the feature set they do have says about what looping is that pisses me off. The DL4 is a great looper - simple, fairly inexpensive and without any of the nonsense that Roland and Digitech have added, whilst ignoring the useful stuff.

There are people on this list making great music with simple loopers, they're just doing it in spite of what the people making them seem to assume they are for.

cheers

Steve
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www.stevelawson.net/zencart/ - shop
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--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_2480_1191682670_0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 15:01:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28D0D3BF2E; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 15:01:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=VV4nKI852cnuryNclnIjCsHKq3GH1ssAsPsHFlwYCO0=; b=YaFiv9Jq0zLOeDWAMN52xW46qQtCFDZhA3a2D1WL8w15DCUEx0gCsy2hn11ThJlCKjIdLIymrBBKOqTbVLHFB/hDcmHP6cESVJy3wN6YqYHQc10oWqE1o8C3Oqvei/0U1cwGmmT/wiKa4xGVbgc4lGYOoNlEOP/SzbVhA9Cx8sY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EhmFKfXKVf0MLfTK9gqosdEXizODtW8Nxk3XuPgfNMDBe29wKHec9YoZ3YbedgHfj+mVL6CMQnCq+BKTsMkzdato1lBhnwYt6FH0VYvRL1HUFhVNeK7EqmzoFlS944XC/pPMH5tapE8CmWbQeDXoQOUG/i23HhaY/HBjSI7NsFk= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 08:01:43 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) In-Reply-To: <73357F98-00C9-4B1A-8DD2-7F6B596B967A@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <73357F98-00C9-4B1A-8DD2-7F6B596B967A@mac.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 15:01:46 +0000 (UTC) I started on piano then switched to guitar. David Gilmour and Mark Knopfler made the prospect of putting up with my very old-school piano teacher a non-starter. I wasn't really aware that a thing called a "cello" existed until my teens. Had I known when I was seven, I would have asked for lessons on it instead of the piano. The vocal quality of it easily trumped the polyphony of the piano to my ears...once I knew the damn thing existed. On the other hand, I fiind the Stick/Warr Guitar/touch-style instruments are the most chronically under-exploited instrument ever. A combination of the piano and the electric guitar? Brilliant! How did this instrument not catch on like wildfire? Yet the results have been consistently underwhelming for me, except when I saw Jim Lamphee playing on a London street during lunchtime, which made me really reconsider changing instrument again. Angry Stick Players: let's just agree to disagree on this one. TH On 10/6/07, Paul Mimlitsch wrote: > I've always wondered why someone chooses a particular instrument as their > "voice" - multitimbral vs mono timbral - and, based on my own experience and > conversations with others came to the conclusion (assumption?) that, in a > lot of cases, it has to do with how you hear things/ organize sounds, in > your head. When you think of a melody are you hearing single notes flowing > one after the other, multiple voices running parallel, or more texturally > (ie: notes stacked on top of each other)? When you pick up your instrument > do you gravitate towards single note lines or a more chordal approach and is > this based on preference or the physicality of the instrument? Another > question I should have asked in my original post was: How many people have > switched instruments to meet their needs. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 15:02:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 159BE3BF2F; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 15:02:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <0af701c807c8$931bb7a0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <22787C3A-1005-4BE7-9067-F1BD95B57506@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9A570574-2973-4F64-AE21-0AD981C9D2C3@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: Re: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 09:04:19 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 15:02:45 +0000 (UTC) On Oct 6, 2007, at 8:44 AM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > On 10/6/07, Paul Mimlitsch wrote: >> >> >> Which brings me to a topic I've been wondering about lately: >> >> 1) how many people on the list do solo non looping gigs? > > Never. >> >> 2) "the beauty of the single not line" - how many guitar players/ >> players of multitimbral instruments can do an improv. gig using only >> single note lines and hold an audiences attention? for how long? > > Never tried it. It certainly get dull for me pretty quickly (as a > player). Maybe a new approach/ something to explore? > >> >> 3) if you're not comfortable doing this, is that because of >> preference (ie: vertical vs. linear hearing)? Being raised on a >> particular instrument? Or did you gravitate towards your preferred >> instrument due to how you hear things? > > Personally, the percussive note envelope of the guitar (the sound is > dying off almost as soon as its sounded) does not lend itself well to > unaccompanied single lines. I so envy the bowed instruments or horns > that can make a note get louder after the initial attack, and for > years used a compressor, volume pedal and reverb/delay to cop some of > that ability. Not sure I agree with the "does not lend itself to unaccompanied single lines". > >> >> 4) if you play a mono timbral instrument (horns etc) is the desire to >> "loop" a means of filling up vertical space to compliment your single >> note line play? > > Yep. I like harmony, and the amount of effort required to learn how > to do it all at once via advanced fingerpicking (a la Kottke or > Bensusan) is beyond me at this point in life. There's only so much > time in the day and so many days left on my calendar. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 15:22:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07DA93BF2E; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 15:22:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=cHofxdRc9d+5TCH7aypxWu6AGXIEW9Lr0LE+omjurw4=; b=hPvcTp8HZExo/2Hc+to7bnIXYP1phqjluvaHwtyJfPcewJyHXP/L4219X+avv5QV86uB6pHV4F7GvUSoutDBEz8LMkFFiOxK2sf/JlmXZDX3T5jJmCX3IsOleKOvNX2bf9bSmzGDGNfSy+HCDtd9Y2uyAe+RbskcVx7kihX7DMc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=TixyYjXYZYb9E5PrIJzChVG8MhXg3Sjs0aXMOjLDs5Z2IxW/tw1GyKHcWJ+1wTRK1tK7wbvd8vr9jvOZx9eQ+T6lZTrkw1bRMzkxds7NlfdHI9hLqd5NPzpg9lXHwansXr5PL5X7FeIcxZ9KY516k2Wb0rJ4RRNsi5Z/mf4A2q4= In-Reply-To: References: <0af701c807c8$931bb7a0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <22787C3A-1005-4BE7-9067-F1BD95B57506@mac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <65E3FAE4-023F-4DB6-90FC-E11B34B9D5A3@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 17:22:15 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 15:22:21 +0000 (UTC) On 6 okt 2007, at 14.46, Paul Mimlitsch wrote: > 1) how many people on the list do solo non looping gigs? Sometimes. Not very often though, since there isn't any natural forum for solo concerts. I've mostly played non looping solo concerts for art exhibitions. One time I used a sax and walked around among the visitors while playing, making a point of the different acoustics of the different halls. > 2) "the beauty of the single note line" - how many guitar players/ > players of multitimbral instruments can do an improv. gig using > only single note lines and hold an audiences attention? for how long? I don't see that this would be more difficult on a polyphonic instrument compared to a monophonic? "The beauty of a single note line" does not reside in what you play but what you do not play, but rather create the set-up for the listener to fill in by his/her imagination. To play that way you need to hear and react to not only the sound of a single note but also its attitude and suggested directions by that note. Non-musicians hear this easily, but somehow many players don't bother with this in my humble opinion most important aspect of playing music. > 3) if you're not comfortable doing this, is that because of > preference (ie: vertical vs. linear hearing)? When I was a child I sometimes hid under a grand piano and experienced some vertical hearing ;-)) In other words; "I'm sorry, I can't understand this question". ;-) > Being raised on a particular instrument? No. Of course one instrument was the first I learned, but I wouldn't call that "being raised" on it. > Or did you gravitate towards your preferred instrument due to how > you hear things? No. I gravitate towards new instruments when I get too bored with the instruments I already use. Today there's not much such boredom though, since I have learned at least four different instruments well enough to play rather freely. So I can always move on to another one when in need for wider perspectives. > 4) if you play a mono timbral instrument (horns etc) is the desire > to "loop" a means of filling up vertical space to compliment your > single note line play? Hmm... when you say "vertically", do you mean instantly sounding? (as in a orchestra score?) Well, never mind. The answer to this question is "no". I look at loopers more as a way to extend the instrument. Kind of the same urge that forces me to trim vibrato bars, modify mouth-piece sound chambers, knock away frets, program synth sounds etc etc. Even when playing polyphonic instruments, as the guitar, I like doing monophonic melody lines. And, as said above, what I like is not what is heard but the open horizon it brings. The harmonies and chord sequences implied but not explicitly played. I think Luis Armstrong was quite early in doing this in his singing, "scatting" a short phrase after the actual lyric line just to give a clue for a chord/harmony. On 6 okt 2007, at 16.49, Paul Mimlitsch wrote: > I've always wondered why someone chooses a particular instrument as > their "voice" My "musical voice" is something I have been aware of since I was three and a half years old, long before starting to play music. It's not directly about "sound" or any certain instrument. Music has simply become the most efficient way for me to explore this area. When I hear certain instruments I can tell if it would be a proper expression for me, and then I learn to play it to match my "musical voice". > Another question I should have asked in my original post was: How > many people have switched instruments to meet their needs. No instrument is perfect, but humans are extremely multi faceted beings. Switching is just a way to get along a little better. When playing in bands I have of course picked up whatever instrument needed for the collective project. I guess that's means the answer "yes and no" (switching seriously just for fun but sometimes also because a band situation needs it). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 15:26:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A12E13BF24; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 15:26:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003901c8082d$62b79c90$6c052052@customer3530f5> From: "Ian Popperwell" To: References: <0af701c807c8$931bb7a0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <22787C3A-1005-4BE7-9067-F1BD95B57506@mac.com> Subject: Re: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 16:27:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 15:26:25 +0000 (UTC) Yes, I agree. I play sax and a lot of improvised stuff (not dissimilar to this) and think that it doesn't need loops or any other electronics - it would make it different, not necessarily improve it though. the acoustic sounds are wonderful and spacious. Ian. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Mimlitsch" To: Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 1:24 PM Subject: Re: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions > Nice - just the way it is!!! (ie: no electronics) > >> On 6 okt 2007, at 05.25, Krispen Hartung wrote: >> >>> http://www.box.net/shared/mh5o4t82a0 >>> >>> On this, I'm just playing my Taylor nylon string acoustic through my >>> Schertler "David" amp....no laptop, max/msp, or radical effects. It's >>> quiet liberating to sit down and play like this once in a while...sort >>> of tests whether I can still express myself with the instrument alone, >>> without the assistance of electronics. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 15:26:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 963F43BF2B; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 15:26:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 415 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sat, 06 Oct 2007 15:26:58 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=sepuzEXge7UGIMN2pBMcD6A1tAqr2h54qmp/UCSHzdE=; b=IVnp49UxdwiPjwkI4Y6ENnM0lriyud4PIx0G98YhzmUFKbqn2oydCLm45uLilIYDmCj6ti2kLcP9nrTRx16E6l7toREsP/6qhhiSA9naprJa+rJmFntGrNRlKIr8OccteuZd1R+mI5ENcJlGuaTRTPThhWeOj+12bUEkChQ6lm4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uVjgoH3lMr99sFQ1N3Q8T9k3Ne+C4afWfQYGFiucwxIG0mpPZam6pTI88ZnFpvCvpHZSXsHzAYiG+d4pV+Omu7zXpjWs7bYPhSqGqRKzVrTuVsgL+q0HxfqIaMIwhCbPx2Dm8S9gOLBIE9rqGjReNyX9I8RH5xFnyHUgFkCfDLY= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 08:20:02 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) In-Reply-To: <9A570574-2973-4F64-AE21-0AD981C9D2C3@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <0af701c807c8$931bb7a0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <22787C3A-1005-4BE7-9067-F1BD95B57506@mac.com> <9A570574-2973-4F64-AE21-0AD981C9D2C3@mac.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 15:26:58 +0000 (UTC) On 10/6/07, Paul Mimlitsch wrote: > >> 2) "the beauty of the single not line" - how many guitar players/ > >> players of multitimbral instruments can do an improv. gig using only > >> single note lines and hold an audiences attention? for how long? > > > > Never tried it. It certainly get dull for me pretty quickly (as a > > player). > > Maybe a new approach/ something to explore? Nah. I have to keep people happy at my gigs, or I get fired, and I'm happy with that. Out of the many musical areas one can explore, I work in the ones that interest me and which are likely to be interesting to a general audience. I could work all my life on those and still not get to the bottom of it, without delving into the things that don't appeal to me much and which don't have much of an audience. Again, only so many hours in the day, so many days left in my life. Even the "easy" things are hard. For the record, I am a completely non-experimental musician...in public. > > > > >> > >> 3) if you're not comfortable doing this, is that because of > >> preference (ie: vertical vs. linear hearing)? Being raised on a > >> particular instrument? Or did you gravitate towards your preferred > >> instrument due to how you hear things? > > > > Personally, the percussive note envelope of the guitar (the sound is > > dying off almost as soon as its sounded) does not lend itself well to > > unaccompanied single lines. I so envy the bowed instruments or horns > > that can make a note get louder after the initial attack, and for > > years used a compressor, volume pedal and reverb/delay to cop some of > > that ability. > > Not sure I agree with the "does not lend itself to unaccompanied > single lines". Yep, well, we can't all like the same things. I'm drawing a blank on notable examples of the unaccompanied single line guitarist genre though. Best, TH From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 15:38:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66CDA3BF2D; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 15:38:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <0af701c807c8$931bb7a0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <22787C3A-1005-4BE7-9067-F1BD95B57506@mac.com> <9A570574-2973-4F64-AE21-0AD981C9D2C3@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: Re: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 09:39:40 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <3_SOtC.A.GXF.dv6BHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 15:38:05 +0000 (UTC) On Oct 6, 2007, at 9:20 AM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > On 10/6/07, Paul Mimlitsch wrote: > ..... I'm drawing a blank on notable examples of the unaccompanied > single line guitarist genre > though. if not, why not? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 15:49:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20A2A3BF18; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 15:49:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Yi9JpK+0SjG0WiMPlogdewzWayO2+9HW0YtudyGKhsY=; b=a7l1kQSHdwwvcMcFdu04gDQ+UtgEFUzNz19LfcLnT2KI1GUG/hd6rOVAsUDHqxdUCkBCojyS7VOwl3R2DRkC9XufO8lty91M4G8uCI0F4laUpSQvQHsZ2t/Y+SCC9z64IG0dojPY2KtkKCIPrgTdIz0QiEEO4vvtAcgNL/+FXZg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pnYgOLqQBsZ7HviJO/Er2dcXl2flnlRpxMBYSmGIsjp5OLPFCP92wei6BPG53WMIee16u2hVQTuMWhosFnGvy0Cv6UFJ2FRxdEM8UnVeJfZyD9IccIIOiuEzteBpKhgby6+eBh6cu9xRfjlQ4DqPEnAYjJRZe8AsFGhDSHA10kU= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 08:49:54 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <0af701c807c8$931bb7a0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <22787C3A-1005-4BE7-9067-F1BD95B57506@mac.com> <9A570574-2973-4F64-AE21-0AD981C9D2C3@mac.com> Resent-Message-ID: <7dR19B.A.NKG.j66BHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 15:49:56 +0000 (UTC) Because, I've mucked about with it, and it wasn't interesting to me, and I have no shortage of musical areas that do interest me to work on. I'm not driven to go where no man has gone before just for the sake of it. I'm not saying that it can't be done, just that it seems difficult by design and I can't think of any prior examples. TH On 10/6/07, Paul Mimlitsch wrote: > > On Oct 6, 2007, at 9:20 AM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > > > On 10/6/07, Paul Mimlitsch wrote: > > ..... I'm drawing a blank on notable examples of the unaccompanied > > single line guitarist genre > > though. > > > if not, why not? > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 17:12:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 139923BF22; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 17:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4707C1E7.8040309@mhorse.com> Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 12:12:07 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Subject: Re: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) References: <20071006145052.DB5D53BF36@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20071006145052.DB5D53BF36@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5q_z7C.A.m9C.wH8BHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 17:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Lessee, there were a lot of questions in there...I do "dry" solo guitar/vocal shows, usually half instrumental pieces, half vocal, as a separate thing from looping (which at this point, only with Chinapainting, I'm not doing solo looping gigs otherwise right now). I started out as a musician playing tuba, did some typical piano lessons, then flirted with drums and bass before hitting on guitar, and the thing that I loved instantly were chords, chords, chords. I LOVE CHORDS. I might have stuck with the piano for this reason, but the expressiveness that Rainer mentioned drew me more towards the guitar, I believe. So I don't do solo-line gigs, or tunes. Neither my current solo stuff nor Chinapainting involve real single-note soloing, but when I do find myself in that situation, I always involve a lot of partial or complete chords in addition to solo lines. I do love horns, and vocals, and other single-note instruments, but I think it's their incredible dynamic range that makes them work for me. I think what drew me to looping was having more harmonic colors at the same time, more interesting simultaneous combinations of notes/textures. (brief plug: I'm playing a few of these currently on-topic vocal/instro solo shows in the weeks before and after the Loopfest, all in CA. October 14 in Culver City (that is, LA), October 25 and 26 in Oxnard, October 27 in Redondo Beach. Chinapainting is also playing shows right before and after the 'fest, the 18th in Oakland, 19th in San Francisco, and Sunday way out in Lodi at a winery. I'll flog the looping shows when the time gets closer, details for the solo shows are on my site. begging your indulgence..) Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > I've always wondered why someone chooses a particular instrument as > their "voice" - multitimbral vs mono timbral - and, based on my own > experience and conversations with others came to the conclusion > (assumption?) that, in a lot of cases, it has to do with how you hear > things/ organize sounds, in your head. When you think of a melody are > you hearing single notes flowing one after the other, multiple voices > running parallel, or more texturally (ie: notes stacked on top of each > other)? When you pick up your instrument do you gravitate towards > single note lines or a more chordal approach and is this based on > preference or the physicality of the instrument? Another question I > should have asked in my original post was: How many people have > switched instruments to meet their needs. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 17:18:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5CD73BF25; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 17:18:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=1nAaBb7J5xAmzg83Cb+d2SgeM5N3fb/LKB/0BiF2zkA=; b=glAcinfNH7U/t7EQqSdkwBqWYWxLxiMjWHOFkwfDH4zoVYuSKwZ9mI2tM/UsUZwvf+yv9BLsJ9IDdvC2g3wZQt0gtiLQLLKQ1KDCdy1umKvsSc+0QjRYcVCFKepGeMd/jq1Dp4TERwXfG6GQ5qNHfq1SeqgLxTmbFWrb+cb4jqs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=K390Vt1cjZtcB5nRIUpeuzksJt0XDCO2Tb7XgkfEOAhZNvk6giPRU3Ol+lSzoYCULm2m0uVvdKYHQEL6nnemZ/dxmYyDb9brv0jVyiSeRyb3ciL4XuetEijdKCRyD0LpVgqnq+uQMKcwMkSEcDL14/xcNO9EqnjOhzdJcEkkFfo= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56B92F@keel.sailpoint.com> References: <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> <716FB4BF-3A51-4C0A-82A9-19E4A15383CD@gmail.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56B8E0@keel.sailpoint.com> <93D62806-51EF-4295-927F-21715B841719@gmail.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56B916@keel.sailpoint.com> <27D1C298-C1C8-4E96-B5F1-6E923E8C0A32@gmail.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56B92F@keel.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Ending actions by Record in Mobius (Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 19:17:54 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 17:18:00 +0000 (UTC) On 5 okt 2007, at 19.38, Jeff Larson wrote: > So you're hearing an audio glitch in the Mobius loop when output > sync is enabled and you do Multiply/Record and sometimes just > a simple Overdub? Thanks I can look into that. > > Glitches after Overdub are most often caused by a low > setting for the global parameter "Drift Resync Frames". > This defaults to 256 which is actually way too low, it > should be around 4096. I've been testing Mobius 1.30G all day now and must admit that I was wrong. The old "glitch" I was talking about is gone by now. When starting the first loop by Record - Record I could not reproduce the glitch nor the drop-out. This is really good news and I have to apologize to Jeff and anyone reading my previous mail and thus getting exposed to incorrect information. As for the drop-outs they sometimes appear when creating the first loop by Record - Overdub. > Multiply/Record is much more complicated because the > tempo and a lot of other internal sync state changes. > Glitches here are usually caused by bugs. Yes, there is still the problem with Multiply - Multiply, when done on the master track: the playback jumps to the middle of the loop instead of proceeding from the beginning. I get around this issue by going Multiply - Overdub instead. I tried to make a script that uses the same foot pedal for starting Multiply and ending it with Overdub ("if" in Multiply mode). This did not work though; after the second press the track was not going into Overdub mode, even though Multiply was ended. So for smooth multiplying you need to remember to step on two buttons; Multiply and Overdub button. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 17:49:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF3FF3BF23; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 17:49:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <65E3FAE4-023F-4DB6-90FC-E11B34B9D5A3@gmail.com> References: <0af701c807c8$931bb7a0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <22787C3A-1005-4BE7-9067-F1BD95B57506@mac.com> <65E3FAE4-023F-4DB6-90FC-E11B34B9D5A3@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <06E379ED-FA65-4759-8F15-DA68088DF8E0@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: Re: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 11:50:39 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <-KDS4D.A.4eF.Qq8BHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 17:49:04 +0000 (UTC) On Oct 6, 2007, at 9:22 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On 6 okt 2007, at 14.46, Paul Mimlitsch wrote: > >> 1) how many people on the list do solo non looping gigs? > > Sometimes. Not very often though, since there isn't any natural > forum for solo concerts. I've mostly played non looping solo > concerts for art exhibitions. One time I used a sax and walked > around among the visitors while playing, making a point of the > different acoustics of the different halls. > >> 2) "the beauty of the single note line" - how many guitar players/ >> players of multitimbral instruments can do an improv. gig using >> only single note lines and hold an audiences attention? for how long? > > I don't see that this would be more difficult on a polyphonic > instrument compared to a monophonic? "The beauty of a single note > line" does not reside in what you play but what you do not play, > but rather create the set-up for the listener to fill in by his/her > imagination. To play that way you need to hear and react to not > only the sound of a single note but also its attitude and suggested > directions by that note. Non-musicians hear this easily, but > somehow many players don't bother with this in my humble opinion > most important aspect of playing music. > > >> 3) if you're not comfortable doing this, is that because of >> preference (ie: vertical vs. linear hearing)? > > When I was a child I sometimes hid under a grand piano and > experienced some vertical hearing ;-)) In other words; "I'm sorry, > I can't understand this question". ;-) > >> Being raised on a particular instrument? > > No. Of course one instrument was the first I learned, but I > wouldn't call that "being raised" on it. > >> Or did you gravitate towards your preferred instrument due to how >> you hear things? > > No. I gravitate towards new instruments when I get too bored with > the instruments I already use. Today there's not much such boredom > though, since I have learned at least four different instruments > well enough to play rather freely. So I can always move on to > another one when in need for wider perspectives. > > >> 4) if you play a mono timbral instrument (horns etc) is the desire >> to "loop" a means of filling up vertical space to compliment your >> single note line play? > > Hmm... when you say "vertically", do you mean instantly sounding? > (as in a orchestra score?) Well, never mind. The answer to this > question is "no". I look at loopers more as a way to extend the > instrument. Kind of the same urge that forces me to trim vibrato > bars, modify mouth-piece sound chambers, knock away frets, program > synth sounds etc etc. Even when playing polyphonic instruments, as > the guitar, I like doing monophonic melody lines. And, as said > above, what I like is not what is heard but the open horizon it > brings. The harmonies and chord sequences implied but not > explicitly played. I think Luis Armstrong was quite early in doing > this in his singing, "scatting" a short phrase after the actual > lyric line just to give a clue for a chord/harmony. > > > On 6 okt 2007, at 16.49, Paul Mimlitsch wrote: >> I've always wondered why someone chooses a particular instrument >> as their "voice" > > My "musical voice" is something I have been aware of since I was > three and a half years old, long before starting to play music. > It's not directly about "sound" or any certain instrument. Music > has simply become the most efficient way for me to explore this > area. When I hear certain instruments I can tell if it would be a > proper expression for me, and then I learn to play it to match my > "musical voice". > >> Another question I should have asked in my original post was: >> How many people have switched instruments to meet their needs. > > No instrument is perfect, but humans are extremely multi faceted > beings. Switching is just a way to get along a little better. When > playing in bands I have of course picked up whatever instrument > needed for the collective project. I guess that's means the answer > "yes and no" (switching seriously just for fun but sometimes also > because a band situation needs it). > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 19:00:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 944153BF22; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 19:00:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0bff01c8084b$2aa401e0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Krispen Hartung" From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <0af701c807c8$931bb7a0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <22787C3A-1005-4BE7-9067-F1BD95B57506@mac.com> Subject: Re: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 13:00:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 19:00:34 +0000 (UTC) Great topic. > Which brings me to a topic I've been wondering about lately: > > 1) how many people on the list do solo non looping gigs? I've only done a few, but in the broad jazz genre, I've found this to be the most challenging performance setting. Sure, I can play contemporary style and folk style for hours and hours, but playing solo jazz, no looping, is not an easy thing to do. > 2) "the beauty of the single not line" - how many guitar players/ players > of multitimbral instruments can do an improv. gig using only single note > lines and hold an audiences attention? for how long? Single notes only? I could do that indefinitely...and I think I could hold an audiences attention...everything from quoting modern and class standard heads to improvising my own lines. > 3) if you're not comfortable doing this, is that because of preference > (ie: vertical vs. linear hearing)? Being raised on a particular > instrument? Or did you gravitate towards your preferred instrument due > to how you hear things? I find adding chordal improvisation to this to be even more challenging on the guitar. For instance, if you use Joe Pass's solo approach as a standard, I can maybe to that for, eh, three jazz standards? If were are talking free improvisation, I can do that indefinitely with chords and melody intertwined, but it is still a challenging thing. You really have to have a command of your instrument and harmony to pull this off. Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 19:06:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DFFC03BF16; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 19:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0c1301c8084b$973dfa90$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Krispen Hartung" From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <001201c80822$29c2ed50$1001a8c0@succubus> Subject: Re: Reply-to setting Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 13:03:30 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0C0E_01C80819.4B288350" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 19:06:35 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0C0E_01C80819.4B288350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm not sure why that is happening. It the email that I subcribed to LD = with, so folks just have to see who they are sending it to and change it = to loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com. BTW, this happens with other = people too. About 30% of every email I reply to on LD, sends only to the = sender by default. I have to enter the LD list email address.. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: "'Krispen Hartung'" Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 8:07 AM Subject: Reply-to setting > Hey Krispen, >=20 > it seems your messages (just like the messages of Tilman some time = ago) have > a Reply-To: khartung@cableone.net in them, which leads to replies = getting > sent to you, not to the list. >=20 > Rainer > ------=_NextPart_000_0C0E_01C80819.4B288350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm not sure why that is happening. It = the email=20 that I subcribed to LD with, so folks just have to see who they are = sending it=20 to and change it to loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com.=20 BTW, this happens with other people too. About 30% of every email I = reply to on=20 LD, sends only to the sender by default. I have to enter the LD list = email=20 address..
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar = Straschill"=20 <rs@moinlabs.de>
To: "'Krispen Hartung'" <khartung@cableone.net>
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 8:07=20 AM
Subject: Reply-to = setting

> Hey Krispen,
>
> it seems your messages (just = like the=20 messages of Tilman some time ago) have
> a Reply-To: khartung@cableone.net in = them, which=20 leads to replies getting
> sent to you, not to the list.
> =
>=20 Rainer
> ------=_NextPart_000_0C0E_01C80819.4B288350-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 19:11:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9178A3BF29; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 19:11:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0c3c01c8084c$bc0a56b0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Krispen Hartung" From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <0af701c807c8$931bb7a0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <22787C3A-1005-4BE7-9067-F1BD95B57506@mac.com> <65E3FAE4-023F-4DB6-90FC-E11B34B9D5A3@gmail.com> <06E379ED-FA65-4759-8F15-DA68088DF8E0@mac.com> Subject: Re: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 13:11:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 19:11:47 +0000 (UTC) >>> 2) "the beauty of the single note line" - how many guitar players/ >>> players of multitimbral instruments can do an improv. gig using only >>> single note lines and hold an audiences attention? for how long? The interesting thing for me is that my wife likes my playing best when I just sit down on the couch with my acoustic guitar and freely improvise...the simpler (even single line notes) the better. All the complex, textured looping material I do doesn't touch her in the same way. I find this to be the case with most of my non-musician contacts. They can only consume so much. When it comes to my own listening, as well, I tend to like the more simple approaches. I really like to listen to Bach's Partitas for solo violin. It's so pure and simple...but also emotionally complex. Playing single line notes on one's instrument is sort of like the speaking voice. If you can carry on a conversation with your instrument, without resorting to having 6 voices speaking at the same time, and still say something meaningful to your audience, then that is quite an accomplishment in my opinion. Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 19:25:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5813D3BF2A; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 19:25:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 15:25:23 EDT Subject: OT my wife To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bbf.1872c0e2.34393b23_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 19:25:26 +0000 (UTC) --part1_bbf.1872c0e2.34393b23_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/6/07 3:12:04 PM, khartung@cableone.net writes: > my wife likes my playing best > when i'm in a different state!.....take that however you want.....:)m "Who needs a six pac when ya got a keg!".....scoots galore "THOUGHTS ON EXCERCISE" www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com --part1_bbf.1872c0e2.34393b23_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 10/6/07 3:12:04 PM, khartung@cableone.net writes:


my wife likes my play= ing best


when i'm in a different state!.....take that however you want.....:)m




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See what's=20= new at http://www.aol.com --part1_bbf.1872c0e2.34393b23_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 19:28:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2366C3BF23; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 19:28:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: <0af701c807c8$931bb7a0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <22787C3A-1005-4BE7-9067-F1BD95B57506@mac.com> <0bff01c8084b$2aa401e0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <0bff01c8084b$2aa401e0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: RE: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 12:28:29 -0700 Message-ID: <006c01c8084f$13e40b90$3bac22b0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgITIC1JhnUtrBNSTaRssYRwMzdTAAARsCA Content-Language: en-us X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: De4000df000003e0d.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: <7GNFuB.A.JHE.ZH-BHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 19:28:26 +0000 (UTC) > 1) how many people on the list do solo non looping gigs? So far, my only live performances have been at local open mics - solo Stick, no looping. I've played/sung, and I've played prerecorded found sounds which I've accompanied on Stick. > 2) "the beauty of the single not line" - how many guitar players/ players > of multitimbral instruments can do an improv. gig using only single note > lines and hold an audiences attention? for how long? I tend to play single note melody lines, arpeggios and chords. Not able to improv, unless I'm noodling at home. > 3) if you're not comfortable doing this, is that because of preference > (ie: vertical vs. linear hearing)? Being raised on a particular > instrument? Or did you gravitate towards your preferred instrument due > to how you hear things? Being a novice musician (attempted to learn to play music for the first time in my life a few years ago). No formal training. I simply do the best I can. I hear things in far more complex ways than I'm capable of performing. I'm planning some experimental/looping/computer projects with surround audio, but might be awhile before I could perform them live - but that's my goal. -Qua From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 19:56:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4ABAF3BF2A; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 19:56:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: OT: Reply-to setting Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:57:00 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <001701c80853$0ee510e0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <0c1301c8084b$973dfa90$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcgITAQjULRJuyKVQVeyGW/6A/YxXwAA8t4A X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD10+29g0lwzkzGyA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: <4PAOZD.A.1JG.zh-BHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 19:56:36 +0000 (UTC) > I'm not sure why that is happening. It the email that I subcribed to LD with, so folks just have to see who they > it seems your messages (just like the messages of Tilman some time ago) have > a Reply-To: khartung@cableone.net in them, which leads to replies getting > sent to you, not to the list. It's like this, as far as I understand (and you mailtechies out there, please connect me when necessary). Obviously, when somebody sends a mail to ld, it has his own (sending) email address in the "from:" and the LD address in the "to:" field. When forwarding the messages to the list, the LD daemon obviously leaves these fields just the same (hence you see a mail on the list as e.g. from Krispen Hartung and to Looper's Delight), but adds the following to the end: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com (please take not of the last line here, to make that somewhat on topic). Interesting here is the "Reply-To:" statement. This instructs your email client to enter the address behind that statement in the "to:" field when you reply to this message, instead of using the "from:" field from the message to be replied to (which still has your name in it). However, in some cases, the original message (like your messages as of recently) do already contain a Reply-to field. To quote from your original message: Reply-To: "Krispen Hartung" In that case, the LD daemon seems to omit its own Reply-To statement, the footer then looks like this: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com So... if you have the problem that lots of people send you emails privately that might have been intended for the list, check whether you explicitly have specified a Reply-To address in your email program. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 20:45:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E2AD3BF22; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 20:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 648 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sat, 06 Oct 2007 20:45:39 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=r4hJDE+hQEVEAGyt2mIfq7BkxJPWOn5MYPfMAd7w9Pw1o5vd4VJC+EJVauVFj+Ks; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index:Message-ID:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; From: "ejyuhas" To: Subject: OT? Crap? Robotics, laptops and looping... Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 16:37:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0132_01C80837.33942730" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Thread-Index: AcgIWLpNIYvTvMMORbWCto168PFcqQ== Message-ID: X-ELNK-Trace: 22b7a950aa3e6c4dd780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bc62bd51ad447157224a269cc312b6de04350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.34.166.12 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 20:45:40 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0132_01C80837.33942730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Fellow loopers, especially any engineering types.you may enjoy this! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19RJEnNUg1I Sooooo, is it considered "looping" to execute coded commands in time, in tune and with repeatability? I'm sure there's a few DO loops in there. Hey, at least there's a laptop involved! Enjoy! Ed in NJ http://www.myspace.com/edward_yuhas ------=_NextPart_000_0132_01C80837.33942730 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Fellow loopers, especially any engineering = types…you may enjoy this!

 

http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3D19RJEnNUg1I

 

Sooooo, is it considered “looping” to = execute coded commands in time, in tune and with repeatability? I’m sure = there’s a few DO loops in there…

 

Hey, at least there’s a laptop = involved!

 

Enjoy!

 

Ed in NJ

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------=_NextPart_000_0132_01C80837.33942730-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 20:58:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A74AC3BF22; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 20:58:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: OT? Crap? Robotics, laptops and looping... Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 22:59:07 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <001b01c8085b$bca86da0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcgIWLpNIYvTvMMORbWCto168PFcqQAAtyFQ X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD10+29g0lwzkzGyA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 20:58:43 +0000 (UTC) > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19RJEnNUg1I Hilarious! I just had to look...yep, I still have that Roland MT32 stashed away in a bottom drawer! Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 21:15:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 923F23BF2A; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002901c8085d$8c6d8e70$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Krispen Hartung" From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Y2K7 Web Site and Bios Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 15:11:58 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01C8082B.3D859640" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:15:15 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C8082B.3D859640 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all - The Y2K7 bios are now on the website, and it appears we have all but 7 = bios complete. If you are a Y2K7 performer, please review the page and = ensure your bio is there. I would refresh the page a few times to ensure = the old html cache is out of your browser. http://www.y2kloopfest.com/bios.html ...and don't laugh too hard when you see my bio picture! :) (Hey, = Rick, recognize the character behind me?) Kris ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C8082B.3D859640 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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The Y2K7 bios are now on the website, = and it=20 appears we have all but 7 bios complete. If you are a Y2K7 performer, = please=20 review the page and ensure your bio is there. I would refresh the page a = few=20 times to ensure the old html cache is out of your browser.
 
http://www.y2kloopfest.com/= bios.html
 
...and don't laugh too hard when you = see my bio=20 picture!  :)  (Hey, Rick, recognize the character behind=20 me?)
 
Kris
 
------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C8082B.3D859640-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 21:18:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 790F53BF20; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:18:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003101c8085e$7928bc80$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Krispen Hartung" From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <001701c80853$0ee510e0$1001a8c0@succubus> Subject: Re: Reply-to setting Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 15:18:41 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:18:44 +0000 (UTC) I'm not understanding the solution here, Rainer. It's not like I configured my emaill program (Outlook Express) so that when people reply, it goes to my rather than the group. Are you saying that each time I send a message to the group, I need to replace my email address in the "from" box and manually enter the LD address? That is not possible in my program. I have TO, CC, and BCC. The FROM box does not allow me to change who it is from...it is always me, and this is set in the email program configuration. So, out of curiousity, how many people, when replying to this message, see my email in the TO box rather than the LD address? As I said before, about 30% of all the LD message I reply to try to go to the senders email address rather than the LD address, so whatever program these folks are using must be doing the same thing as mine. Or is this the recipients' email programs that are the cuprit? Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 1:57 PM Subject: OT: Reply-to setting >> I'm not sure why that is happening. It the email that I subcribed to LD > with, so folks just have to see who they > > it seems your messages (just like the messages of Tilman some time > ago) have > > a Reply-To: khartung@cableone.net > in them, which leads to replies getting > > sent to you, not to the list. > > It's like this, as far as I understand (and you mailtechies out there, > please connect me when necessary). > > Obviously, when somebody sends a mail to ld, it has his own (sending) > email > address in the "from:" and the LD address in the "to:" field. > > When forwarding the messages to the list, the LD daemon obviously leaves > these fields just the same (hence you see a mail on the list as e.g. from > Krispen Hartung and to Looper's Delight), but adds the following to the > end: > > Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75241 > X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > (please take not of the last line here, to make that somewhat on topic). > Interesting here is the "Reply-To:" statement. This instructs your email > client to enter the address behind that statement in the "to:" field when > you reply to this message, instead of using the "from:" field from the > message to be replied to (which still has your name in it). > > However, in some cases, the original message (like your messages as of > recently) do already contain a Reply-to field. To quote from your original > message: > > Reply-To: "Krispen Hartung" > > In that case, the LD daemon seems to omit its own Reply-To statement, the > footer then looks like this: > > Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75262 > X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > So... > > if you have the problem that lots of people send you emails privately that > might have been intended for the list, check whether you explicitly have > specified a Reply-To address in your email program. > > Rainer > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 21:19:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F88F3BF2F; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:19:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002301c8085e$a633f4b0$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> Reply-To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <0af701c807c8$931bb7a0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <22787C3A-1005-4BE7-9067-F1BD95B57506@mac.com> Subject: Re: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 23:19:53 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+/G8ke2XTyV/ZUzR3No6bKUq31+eF+NUnU0Ve y0+HWJx7PX74k0v5kWOF+JjlRyevTTB6yrhh8GClTgqm8W+4sZ MJwQ+A0/rlywHwKbECj/0XdBqOB1GSq Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:19:19 +0000 (UTC) >> 1) how many people on the list do solo non looping gigs? i do. but short sets. 2 x 20 min is a fine length for a single flute, i'd say. >> 2) "the beauty of the single not line" - how many guitar players/ >> players of multitimbral instruments can do an improv. gig using only >> single note lines and hold an audiences attention? for how long? steve lacey (soprano saxophone) did solo gigs for years, playing mostly monk tunes. >> 4) if you play a mono timbral instrument (horns etc) is the desire to >> "loop" a means of filling up vertical space to compliment your single >> note line play? on the flute: before i discovered looping, circular breathing and singing while playing fast arpeggios helped me to overcome the one flute - one sound - problem. looping definitely made everything a lot easier. hey: i can click some vocal groove, lay down a bassline on the contrabassflute and have a solo on the regular flute! the nearest i can get to magic with electronic devices. tilmann From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 21:20:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E021E3BF2E; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:20:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=5aID2mGKEzPxfKyN+7ljoESrhCuf+FbYP/1JzctvcHM=; b=JH1u0/mjG9ajZqfhyEPmdRy3308Z1JvlNmBh9CuOHqAS5GXqYrMcZvyR+aG3E38tmRFxkUMZRes3bsBfzuYJDyt1NT2m9IgV2oJ5rFDZ3PbPtma7oHJ0izmq+INcTcAZOrYKtlbXsWzjs3DzgKULbZRORlKnXb9z7ZgbnVgzfWg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=BZJ7cWQOnyuwloheDCTjopJ4zdr4ybgKAznmF6iCHIcW8MW6SiXfYVZF4b9+Gp+6YMOzeH8660hGawJQs6rdHJbd9GLnHuzG4qVp7Jdv+ZohvcZMKa5P1LjpN2S/OvwBPOznKbrfI6JNPhGglNyiex81F3aDeRBsy4qC9qM0qB4= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <001b01c8085b$bca86da0$1001a8c0@succubus> References: <001b01c8085b$bca86da0$1001a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: What does "AW" mean? (Re: AW: OT? Crap? Robotics, laptops and looping...) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 23:20:10 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <1dhQb.A.QgC.Rw_BHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:20:17 +0000 (UTC) On 6 okt 2007, at 22.59, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > Hilarious! Yep. But please, what does this "AW" mean? I've only seen it in the topic line on mails from Rainer. "Auf Wiedersehen"? "After Work"? ;-)) Please fill me in... Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 21:22:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0BCD13BF39; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:22:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=eTtUkaFvREy+MMRwjc/ifawk0tgjeEdxoZa1t89w2mk=; b=bg3bgiEz1AWWjzQRBFrTngSbz912pRHqkIFkZ7/z/977Aig0ZfR7fyGVJzMuNp+gcY+d1u9Ku1lJUi4BMU80k2++LPh6J8ytPr+fSlEc3xvv8wGUJ3zYSzcJKFUnHBbQ1xPjXTqzr136jmXB5qksrWHnb8vlbFiBB0HRpNOjsNc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=PQoyrzVOb5QMghe80cJdgIn+hnsyovJX7q8/UtjSS3q4mycoWOMFsyyLOvi2ENHYndrQzdf32ufdC3y/1yS7dNCW3nZ/woS2uH3Xo+iZZJ3PZtYk3nFZ2SpxepvPTLjespVGU/74aSh5ByCzkh3PowTC1OpDzBBTi6AS0kGRy/s= In-Reply-To: <003101c8085e$7928bc80$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <001701c80853$0ee510e0$1001a8c0@succubus> <003101c8085e$7928bc80$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <05A8E95C-6BED-414C-A5F7-4C39379D0DAC@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Reply-to setting Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 23:22:25 +0200 To: Loopers X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:22:32 +0000 (UTC) On 6 okt 2007, at 23.18, Krispen Hartung wrote: > So, out of curiousity, how many people, when replying to this > message, see my email in the TO box rather than the LD address? I do. I have to copy and paste the list address to replace yours in the TO field. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 21:26:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DA3E3BF45; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:26:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=xh1riR2eH9mtqlgxUzWc3eShKlYXrpzRFv/DgHG0rPs=; b=X0UO8D8urSUnMNh4HtvaGGcdeOUMIlQjnCrQ6i2Xeor60gjLCy9S2TwsIu8ul7BnoeDcpd49Tv7UqHE8kBXcKcH3sAlc7NYTneQlkebKIQWherQhf2SnZ6NiMM3okpjcYJ21ylzsRb5yetRG/yVAdW+fuGaQc3ph7rl1+FLBhOQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=jHyI5C8O6dMQmsXAOS4ybLm7Qyrc1tDuOCxbnGHCLl7RCGp0ciRSJ53RfeNZmheyqscyI7c5EKjhjBbjCYmdEIaaspv3sWkMGMfZGmtOErPmAaRfifh6v6bPLvC8X1xqpamgIj55jz+BJbHEIJcnHZ+B/pLk1gHhy0rcomMJTTw= In-Reply-To: <002301c8085e$a633f4b0$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> References: <0af701c807c8$931bb7a0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <22787C3A-1005-4BE7-9067-F1BD95B57506@mac.com> <002301c8085e$a633f4b0$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 23:26:05 +0200 To: Loopers X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <6zUeL.A.uHD.11_BHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:26:13 +0000 (UTC) On 6 okt 2007, at 23.19, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > hey: i can click some vocal groove, lay down a bassline on the > contrabassflute and have a solo > on the regular flute! Then it's about time you stop being lazy and learn to play your looper as well as you play your flutes! ;-) > On 6 okt 2007, at 23.18, Krispen Hartung wrote: >> So, out of curiousity, how many people, when replying to this >> message, see my email in the TO box rather than the LD address? Tilmann also needs to adjust his mail client settings. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 21:26:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 878813BF3E; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:26:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <004e01c8085f$b0a2be30$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> Reply-To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <001701c80853$0ee510e0$1001a8c0@succubus> Subject: Re: Reply-to setting Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 23:27:20 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/0OmfdZUkC2Qd91cYVBbS4JQKY5KjK5uVRoiq Dpw/55nKWlF7hFPTD8aIECGqoW5fp8C9CM4VXnLLwRpM/tMt4k gTZ6QdgsY4yqRVHYZqtH3Ig+aLO2vYs Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:26:45 +0000 (UTC) > if you have the problem that lots of people send you emails privately that > might have been intended for the list, check whether you explicitly have > specified a Reply-To address in your email program. thanx for the info rainer, but what should i do? leave the reply adress blank? i'll try tomorrow. tilmann From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 21:27:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73B703BF4E; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:27:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: What does "AW" mean? (Re: AW: OT? Crap? Robotics, laptops and looping...) Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 23:27:37 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <001f01c8085f$b7b61d20$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcgIXrGfzd2w6WBERWSyA+YGsDxF3wAAPaSQ X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD10+29g0lwzkzGyA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:27:12 +0000 (UTC) Don't know - "antwort" (answer)? Seems to be the German synonym to "Re:" Rainer=20 > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com]=20 > Gesendet: Samstag, 6. Oktober 2007 23:20 > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: What does "AW" mean? (Re: AW: OT? Crap? Robotics,=20 > laptops and looping...) >=20 > On 6 okt 2007, at 22.59, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > > Hilarious! >=20 >=20 > Yep. But please, what does this "AW" mean? I've only seen it=20 > in the topic line on mails from Rainer. "Auf Wiedersehen"? "After =20 > Work"? ;-)) Please fill me in... >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 21:29:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6ADCE3BF46; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:29:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00c601c8085f$edb33840$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Reply-To: "Krispen Hartung" From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <001701c80853$0ee510e0$1001a8c0@succubus> <003101c8085e$7928bc80$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <05A8E95C-6BED-414C-A5F7-4C39379D0DAC@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Reply-to setting Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 15:29:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:29:10 +0000 (UTC) Bizarre. I do have my email program configured so that reply to is to my email. I have no choice in this, otherwise, all my message would be replied to and sent to someone else besides me, including just normal messages I send to private parties. This is a standard configuration setting. So, is everyone using a custom configuration just to send messages to LD, or is their standard config working fine? Kris ----- Original Message ----- > On 6 okt 2007, at 23.18, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> So, out of curiousity, how many people, when replying to this message, >> see my email in the TO box rather than the LD address? > > > I do. I have to copy and paste the list address to replace yours in the > TO field. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 21:35:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 155D63BF2C; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:35:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: WG: Reply-to setting Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 23:36:20 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <002101c80860$ef982f70$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcgIX+9QWrnF1xVnRjSFWGgL8ial6AAADiSgAAAwklA= X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD10+29g0lwzkzGyA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 21:35:56 +0000 (UTC) oops, did it again ;)=20 -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill [mailto:rs@moinlabs.de]=20 Gesendet: Samstag, 6. Oktober 2007 23:35 An: 'Krispen Hartung' Betreff: AW: Reply-to setting Krispen, Tilmann I leave my Reply-To blank. The way I understand it, your email client = will enter the "From:" contents of the original message into the "To:" field = when replying, unless there is a "Reply-To:" field in the message, in which = case it will enter the "Reply-To:" contents instead. So leaving "Reply-To:" blank should get anyone replying to messages from = you to reply to you - and anyone who replies to a LD message reply to LD (because LD enters the "Reply-To:" info if none is present previously). = I don't understand your "all message would be sent to someone else" = statement below. For me, the only reason to use Reply-to is when I'm writing from an = email account but want replies to go to another account (e.g. writing from = work and wanting the replies sent to my private email address). Rainer > Bizarre. I do have my email program configured so that reply to is to = > my email. I have no choice in this, otherwise, all my message would be = > replied to and sent to someone else besides me, including just normal=20 > messages I send to private parties. This is a standard configuration=20 > setting. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 6 22:33:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77A483BF3C; Sat, 6 Oct 2007 22:33:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00e301c80868$62151930$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <002001c80860$cf6a4530$1001a8c0@succubus> Subject: Re: Reply-to setting Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 16:29:37 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2007 22:33:38 +0000 (UTC) Tell me if this works... 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User Agreement: To: Subject: OT: quest for (XP) VST to bring RMS to a target level Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 02:20:22 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000001c80877$d997bdf0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcgId9k1N283KAh5SSaahsfG+i+Qug== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OIWOxwZB5lQ= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 00:20:02 +0000 (UTC) I'm looking for a (Windows) VST (DirectX would also be cool) to bring the audio to a predefined RMS or other "loudness" value by either reducing level or applying compression. Application: when random playing through loads of audio sources, the level changes between them are sometimes startling. Winamp (and thus QCD) has a plugin which allows you to run a VST in it. So my idea is to run the VST described above and then have everything have the same loudness - similar to a cheapo Orban Optimod or TC P2. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 01:30:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A73833BF0F; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 01:30:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) To: Loop List Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-812562319 From: Steve Lawson Subject: Re: How many loopers does Boss sell? Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 02:30:43 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dot1.hosting-ontap.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - steve-lawson.co.uk Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 01:30:48 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-812562319 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed >>>>I gotta disagree. The RC-50, while flawed, can be a wonderful thing. Its features are more geared to a specific type of looping. Not yours, but I've used it with great results with other musicians. It seems to be more of an ensemble device. For instance, I occasionally perform with a bassist and drummer. I import percussion loops so the drummer can play in sync. Adding parts as we play, we get some impressive jams that sound way more interesting then a plain trio. The LP1, EDP, DL4 cannot do this, at least not without a laptop. So, it may not be your cup of tea, but it works great for some people.<<<< That's great that it works for you, and that you've found a feature that works. Seriously, that's great. However, within those flaws are way way way too many things missing or poorly implemented for them to get away with calling it the 'Ultimate Looper'. The LP1 can import and export loops, should that be your wish, from a laptop or an IP assignable network drive (I gather, it's not something i've ever done, or thus far had any inclination to do) and also has feedback control, mappable independent volume and feedback for each of the channels etc. etc. etc. It's versatile. The RC-50 COULD have been a great looper, if they'd just got the feature set right. I'm not saying it's unusable - clearly it's usable or no-one would've bought them - but the feature set still points decidedly in the direction of it being a step-time loop builder and practice tool, rather than a versatile expressive tool suited to many different kinds of looping. But if you've found the looper for you in the RC-50, I have no intention or inclination to disavow you of that wonderful discovery, and I'm sure my ranting about it would have little impact anyway, given that you're happily gigging away. All good, nothing bad, cheers Steve www.stevelawson.net - site www.stevelawson.net/zencart/ - shop http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson --Apple-Mail-1-812562319 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>>>I gotta = disagree. The RC-50, while flawed, can be a wonderful thing. Its = features are more geared to a specific type of looping. Not yours, but = I've used it with great results with other musicians. It seems to be = more of an ensemble device. For instance, I occasionally perform with a = bassist and drummer. I import percussion loops so the drummer can play = in sync. Adding parts as we play, we get some impressive jams that sound = way more interesting then a plain trio. The LP1, EDP, DL4 cannot do = this, at least not without a laptop. =A0So, it may not be your cup of = tea, but it works great for some people.<<<<

That's great that it works = for you, and that you've found a feature that works. Seriously, that's = great. However, within those flaws are way way way too many things = missing or poorly implemented for them to get away with calling it the = 'Ultimate Looper'. The LP1 can import and export loops, should that be = your wish, from a laptop or an IP assignable network drive (I gather, = it's not something i've ever done, or thus far had any inclination to = do) and also has feedback control, mappable independent volume and = feedback for each of the channels etc. etc. etc. It's versatile. The = RC-50 COULD have been a great looper, if they'd just got the feature set = right.=A0I'm not saying it's unusable - clearly it's usable or no-one = would've bought them - but the feature set still points decidedly in the = direction of it being a step-time loop builder and practice tool, rather = than a versatile expressive tool suited to many different kinds of = looping.=A0

But= if you've found the looper for you in the RC-50, I have no intention or = inclination to disavow you of that wonderful discovery, and I'm sure my = ranting about it would have little impact anyway, given that you're = happily gigging away. All good, nothing bad,=A0

cheers

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= --Apple-Mail-1-812562319-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 01:44:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9FFE3BF0F; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 01:44:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3726 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 01:44:39 UTC Message-ID: <005301c8087a$ec039830$0201a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <000001c80877$d997bdf0$1001a8c0@succubus> Subject: Re: quest for (XP) VST to bring RMS to a target level Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 01:42:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 01:44:40 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" > I'm looking for a (Windows) VST (DirectX would also be cool) to bring the > audio to a predefined RMS or other "loudness" value by either reducing > level > or applying compression. > > Application: when random playing through loads of audio sources, the level > changes between them are sometimes startling. Winamp (and thus QCD) has a > plugin which allows you to run a VST in it. So my idea is to run the VST > described above and then have everything have the same loudness - similar > to > a cheapo Orban Optimod or TC P2. Wouldn't this have the same general effect as Normalizing? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 05:04:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F84E3BF05; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 05:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 755 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 05:04:54 UTC Message-ID: <470865FD.3030302@servingpeace.com> Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2007 21:52:13 -0700 From: Sam Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: WG: Reply-to setting References: <002101c80860$ef982f70$1001a8c0@succubus> In-Reply-To: <002101c80860$ef982f70$1001a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-A_KZD.A.KyC.2jGCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 05:04:55 +0000 (UTC) Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > For me, the only reason to use Reply-to is when I'm writing from an email > account but want replies to go to another account (e.g. writing from work > and wanting the replies sent to my private email address). > > Rainer I can confirm this (I run email services for my web hosting customers). No need to set a reply address unless you need to use a different address to receive replies than your Mail From address. Thanks for changing that setting Krispen. I didn't notice yesterday when my message went to you instead of the list. Also thanks for reposting the relevant part. As for the list software, I don't know why it doesn't already do this, but I think that it should replace any existing Reply-to: header with the list address. Not doing so is a hassle and the software should be able to do that. Of course that doesn't mean that it actually has that feature (I don't know), I just think that it should. Sorry for the Off Topic nature of this post. Hopefully now that we understand a little better we can avoid this problem. BTW, I still wonder what AW means in a subject line, and also this email has WG: in the subject. What does that mean? Peace, - Sam From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 10:26:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 721303BEF4; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:26:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: OT: AW: WG: Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:27:17 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000c01c808cc$a29c9320$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: <470865FD.3030302@servingpeace.com> Thread-Index: AcgIn5mbF6W9DlMZRxCVEVx8ejb8sQALN4RQ X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OIJYlRcCm4M= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: <24bqOD.A.L3F.sRLCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:26:52 +0000 (UTC) > BTW, I still wonder what AW means in a subject line, and also > this email has WG: in the subject. What does that mean? Both are German abbreviations. AW: "Antwort" - equals "Reply" (Re:) WG: "Weitergeleitet" - equals "Forwarded" (FW:) Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 10:51:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D6F4E3BEF6; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:51:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: quest for (XP) VST to bring RMS to a target level Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 12:52:18 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000e01c808d0$21a0df70$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: <005301c8087a$ec039830$0201a8c0@eluk1> Thread-Index: AcgIg6C0MR4kN2+hSWqnwZ9A+VQfkAAS3ogw X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OIJYlRcCm4M= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:51:52 +0000 (UTC) > > I'm looking for a (Windows) VST (DirectX would also be > cool) to bring > > the audio to a predefined RMS or other "loudness" value by either > > reducing level or applying compression. > > Wouldn't this have the same general effect as Normalizing? Normalizing is an offline process where you first analyze your entire data set and then compute a scaling factor for the data points based on some metric. I want something which works in realtime. What I'm looking for is more like a compressor/limiter combo, but with its main parameter being the RMS level on the output. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 11:18:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A5C93BEF9; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:18:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: OT: AW: Loop Survey - Summary - post scriptum to eben Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:18:30 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <001401c808d3$ca5cf330$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcgFRD7TwdKBRuSYQaemfnOVi7SIEgDjRz9w X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OIJYlRcCm4M= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:18:04 +0000 (UTC) Eben, you said (replying to my age distribution question): > I'm not certain I understand your question about years of > looping experience, although you may be asking why there are > more people in the middle amount of years and less on the > extremes, which is how almost all data looks when you take a > survey (there is an average with most people in the middle, > and less people are further away from average). No, the question is more specific. First of all, of course you're right regarding the age of the loopers (for which we also see some approximately Gaussian binning), but not regarding the years of looping experience, and I'm gonna explain why: The mathematical model for this works like this. Any looper i has started at a point t1,i in time with looping. Now when the survey happens at t2, he will enter t2-t1,i as a reply to that question (which also has some predefined bins, namely <1, 1-3, 3-5, 5-10 and >10 to somehow stick with the typical bins of human resource departments). You may argue that there might be some answers from people who stopped looping at a time t3,i10yrs people - but then the other bins look differently (the 1-3 and 3-5 bins are about double the size of the <1 bin and the 5-10 bin is nearly three times as big as the 3-5 bin because these bins have different widths). More precisely, this model gives me values 5.3, 11, 11, 32 and 42, respectively. So how has the number of loopers which joined each year in the past have to look to lead to our distribution of 5 - 15 - 19 - 20 - 42? I did some simple runs with the Solver in Excel, and it looks like it's a distribution with the first people starting more than 20 years ago, a very slow increase from then, then some sharp peaks about 9 and 5 years ago and since then a slight decline. However, this set of equations is underdetermined, so: with your knowledge of statistical methods, would you be able to deduct the generating function or parameter for a surface which describes the solutions to this set of equations? Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 13:13:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 218DF3BEEA; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:13:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=DUwsAtvwPj65q8xvA27vyO0Bn6q65D8okP2RuF0B6aU=; b=GI8l14b2qZYGLQDMPu7HTD1gEoAaI2WcMTFaVXyAPq5/ZgXJOHyaag3kMcsK754UBEfCkjx7gf2Z6tcrmk82lHFR5IJnbPUU+dKW7ol0sIs1jTdMXBv5alqwu/JofUdG3b0ptciw42GCwOvzyT6OQrJkPK3b/T2CdWTrQ7HD1PA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=E8EPW08xaDlMiM3OyW4NlEkeQ0ky+8dr7BJ0mZv846WClBRjtzIkQEltdPmyAuJEjoIRar2wc4Ro44mb2zrJy34/UEdkKYgVdjDP8G7PIkV9VTA96EFcFejLHUOfumABakF5nMcwQZHlA57cZ9UDTeFMbNgrCtAGtFuz9zo7hjk= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <000c01c808cc$a29c9320$1001a8c0@succubus> References: <000c01c808cc$a29c9320$1001a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <97EF5595-2475-440B-B5DA-0017BEB18019@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Posting my looping rig's specifications Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:13:06 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:13:16 +0000 (UTC) Hi everyone, Since many of us are going to meet at the upcoming festival I'd like to post the specifications of my looper online, because I can think of a lot more interesting things that I'd like to to talk about when meeting everyone IRL :-) When using a highly configurable software looper like Mobius it's not as easily described as simply giving the brand of a preferred hardware looper. I think Mobius is the best looper available because it is so configurable. At the same time I'm hearing complains about Mobius, coming from new users that wants it to be "easier", which in my ears translates into "less configurable" and in my worst nightmares as "dumbed down" ;-) I'm hoping Mobius will continue to be an open system that a user can configure according to his own ideas in order to explore new directions in looping. The setup is basically very simple: - Audio input, - EQ rolling off bass and lifting treble, - 16 alternative effect chains to play through, - The Mobius looper, - EQ rolling off bass, - Stereo compression, - Audio output. I have taken three screen-shots for illustration. This one shows the concert setup: http://www.looproom.com/concert.jpg and here's the concert setup with EQ settings visible: http://www.looproom.com/concert_eq.jpg The reason I cut out bass at the input is that I'm creating bass lines by pitching down loops I record. The signal would be way too boomy for summing into loop layers if I didn't do this. The reason I cut out sub bass after summing all loops into a stereo signal is that this makes the output stage compressor dynamically work in a nice way. If letting sub bass into the compressor even frequencies that are too low for the PA to play back would affect the rest of the sounding material in a bad way (would sound "flickery" instead of a steady groove). Balancing frequencies through all effect treatments into the final compression is also about balancing all this against the live audio input. The FireFace400 allows me to fine-tune all three live audio inputs I'm using to control the compression of the entire mix by my live playing input. The third screenshot is the recording setup. It's exactly the same as the concert setup but without the final compressing and also outputting Mobius track's as separate channels to be recorded separately: http://www.looproom.com/recording.jpg I hope someone may find inspiration in reading this (I know I would myself, some years back). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 13:33:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 455333BEE8; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:33:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Posting my looping rig's specifications Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 15:34:16 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <001501c808e6$c1a6e620$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: <97EF5595-2475-440B-B5DA-0017BEB18019@gmail.com> Thread-Index: AcgI49JdFtUy9YW+Toyq2zB0JYNRHQAAtv4g X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OIJYlRcCm4M= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:33:51 +0000 (UTC) > The setup is basically very simple: > - Audio input, > - EQ rolling off bass and lifting treble, > - 16 alternative effect chains to play through, > - The Mobius looper, > - EQ rolling off bass, > - Stereo compression, > - Audio output. Questions: 1. which 16 alternative effects 2. why no effects post-looper? Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 14:06:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13CB23BEF4; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:06:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=4K2wuz0jv0td1AvQGYCcBU3ekAQzoDelJuTyQeGsmj0=; b=RwlYT1E9YHiOaiw3pJTLBxaukwIEoOA7UTRweRuA36e6hHoxGMCGhh7YI6NGo+n0F3of53WzHRrc7zeLoz/CJwEHwYJ3AFviBMsu9unt5d01oie6ywCxU5qmZtHG+zxrU4XOQenvqsLmYzZJ5stfN42F41fqvcQHrYCHhGJ6guM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=irOfVDvVkDVL4omQ9du6yhq5pCuoXnfBLjLQsHdzVMpHo9Bf588tpyjKsXgTT5Xraaws9NOAyWuoAdS4ABzgzZbwNJxWB6Gbgl4gLQhfQ5vMGAOjIj5t6WBPOKaoZwBO7tRbW9YPUTXWQm9eSfmjoa5uyD+ub4E2jGAaoE8B/LM= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <001501c808e6$c1a6e620$1001a8c0@succubus> References: <001501c808e6$c1a6e620$1001a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: AW: Posting my looping rig's specifications Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:06:52 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <8kNMz.A.F5F.CgOCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:06:58 +0000 (UTC) On 7 okt 2007, at 15.34, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > 1. which 16 alternative effects They are all displayed in the Bidule part of the screenshot: The Audio Switcher module have 16 output tags. Each such tag leads the signal into one effect chain. > 2. why no effects post-looper? I don't like that. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 14:38:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C45D3BEF3; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:38:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:38:52 EDT Subject: mathias grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c26.207d756d.343a497c_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:38:56 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c26.207d756d.343a497c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i noticed on the y2k7 web site that mathias is listed as a performer.....this is beyond fantastic!.....i don't recall this being mentioned before or perhaps like per's reading example i only get the begining and ending of things, missing out on everything that happens in between.....only one more week till i'm cali bound, can't wait to see all old friends and meet new ones but i must admit that mathias is the cherry on the already bountiful sundae.....mathias, will we be seeing any "firewire" guitar or are you beyond that now?.....:).....m "Who needs a six pac when ya got a keg!".....scoots galore "THOUGHTS ON EXCERCISE" www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com --part1_c26.207d756d.343a497c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i noticed on the y2k7 web site that mat= hias is listed as a performer.....this is beyond fantastic!.....i don't reca= ll this being mentioned before or perhaps like per's reading example i only=20= get the begining and ending of things, missing out on everything that happen= s in between.....only one more week till i'm cali bound, can't wait to see a= ll old friends and meet new ones but i must admit that mathias is the cherry= on the already bountiful sundae.....mathias, will we be seeing any "firewir= e" guitar or are you beyond that now?.....:).....m


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See what's=20= new at http://www.aol.com --part1_c26.207d756d.343a497c_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 16:12:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A4143BEEA; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:12:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: <000c01c808cc$a29c9320$1001a8c0@succubus> <97EF5595-2475-440B-B5DA-0017BEB18019@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <97EF5595-2475-440B-B5DA-0017BEB18019@gmail.com> Subject: RE: Posting my looping rig's specifications Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 09:12:06 -0700 Message-ID: <009401c808fc$d1e20310$75a60930$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgI5SO62jkI/fONQrKD0gYFAqMacQAF4W2g Content-Language: en-us X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: D077c0dcd00003e27.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: <_29Uz.A.yeB.XVQCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:12:07 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per Thanks for the great tutorial. Can you describe how you control all the parameters? Do you use a mouse? Midi faders, midi foot controller, all of the above? -Qua -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 6:13 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Posting my looping rig's specifications Hi everyone, Since many of us are going to meet at the upcoming festival I'd like to post the specifications of my looper online, because I can think of a lot more interesting things that I'd like to to talk about when meeting everyone IRL :-) When using a highly configurable software looper like Mobius it's not as easily described as simply giving the brand of a preferred hardware looper. I think Mobius is the best looper available because it is so configurable. At the same time I'm hearing complains about Mobius, coming from new users that wants it to be "easier", which in my ears translates into "less configurable" and in my worst nightmares as "dumbed down" ;-) I'm hoping Mobius will continue to be an open system that a user can configure according to his own ideas in order to explore new directions in looping. The setup is basically very simple: - Audio input, - EQ rolling off bass and lifting treble, - 16 alternative effect chains to play through, - The Mobius looper, - EQ rolling off bass, - Stereo compression, - Audio output. I have taken three screen-shots for illustration. This one shows the concert setup: http://www.looproom.com/concert.jpg and here's the concert setup with EQ settings visible: http://www.looproom.com/concert_eq.jpg The reason I cut out bass at the input is that I'm creating bass lines by pitching down loops I record. The signal would be way too boomy for summing into loop layers if I didn't do this. The reason I cut out sub bass after summing all loops into a stereo signal is that this makes the output stage compressor dynamically work in a nice way. If letting sub bass into the compressor even frequencies that are too low for the PA to play back would affect the rest of the sounding material in a bad way (would sound "flickery" instead of a steady groove). Balancing frequencies through all effect treatments into the final compression is also about balancing all this against the live audio input. The FireFace400 allows me to fine-tune all three live audio inputs I'm using to control the compression of the entire mix by my live playing input. The third screenshot is the recording setup. It's exactly the same as the concert setup but without the final compressing and also outputting Mobius track's as separate channels to be recorded separately: http://www.looproom.com/recording.jpg I hope someone may find inspiration in reading this (I know I would myself, some years back). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 16:44:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F4BF3BEEA; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1240 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:44:29 UTC From: eterogeneo Reply-To: eterogeneo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: Posting my looping rig's specifications Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:22:17 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: EPOC e-mail Versione 2.10 Resent-Message-ID: <1TnAZ.A.NkC.tzQCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 16:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for sharing your setup, Per: it's interesting how you work to get a good bass sound... As you said, mobius is great because it is customizable and i know you are able to play with a lot of functions created by yourself, so: what kind of scripts are you using at the present ? My set up is very simple: keyboards > kaoss pad II>mobius>PA. Today, with mobius i'm testing deeply the shuffle (random) command. With short loops, it's very easy to get some rythmic textures (a la Alva Noto or Fennez). Have you taste something similar ? Fabio www.eterogeneo From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 17:06:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D1EB3BEEE; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:06:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=ypdjazNe6gNgmF5OAlsB15s3Z0i3Vy+5rhHKNl05Ui0=; b=ogOJP8yrBm+e8cBDKl4UomRptsyCFxaxDD3wSOMjjwfnTv6g4XplZ+vTFt15OquKMkOkaZ1SC9bRYJoxQ1p4NoRX8jXOjgI3ZZh669ikrm6X7lTuUS/a9BtZD6LRQmZq4mEgdjmNOQ57ADxt+cMe39qGP3i5x5pM1r8499ySYJY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=TaCDYEWoJY90d3ZlKP6VcVkxb4dvOGwfbahYEoVMKFFb4BG2+ugG6HBp1m/Q/3xCkjS+KD41IHgsvOmTBhWkD0GlN6ivN0jKXmNgl1JwJesFvuztu/+jAQW5Vf5S8Dv/T6TBs5PAsrrgFITBLDWgYs+p6sPdtnZnLowOLIAdS10= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <009401c808fc$d1e20310$75a60930$@com> References: <000c01c808cc$a29c9320$1001a8c0@succubus> <97EF5595-2475-440B-B5DA-0017BEB18019@gmail.com> <009401c808fc$d1e20310$75a60930$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <26F26594-8126-4BB3-9D68-07BC58E8FE9C@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Posting my looping rig's specifications Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:05:53 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:06:01 +0000 (UTC) On 7 okt 2007, at 18.12, Qua Veda wrote: > Hi Per > Thanks for the great tutorial. Can you describe how you control > all the > parameters? Do you use a mouse? Midi faders, midi foot controller, > all of > the above? I do not control any parameters of the plug-ins, if that is what you mean. All 16 chains are saved with carefully tuned parameter presets. Dynamic effects as filter sweeps, delays and tremolo are all automatically hooking up to whatever tempo I'm looping in. I sometimes change tempo while playing, by the Record-Record action we discussed yesterday, which means eventually beat syncing plug-ins in use will instantly adapt to the new tempo. However some parameter values are linked to the audio input level, so you could put that I'm "controlling them" by my instrument playing. As for Mobius, I use a FCB1010 pedal to give all the necessary commands and sometimes change feedback level. Some commands of the FCB1010 are duplicated on the laptop keys. I'm not using much of Mobius total capacity, only a handful commands that I picked for the processing I want to do. On the FCB I use 6 banks for looper commands and 2 banks for calling up effect chains. On 7 okt 2007, at 18.22, eterogeneo wrote: > Thanks for sharing your setup, Per: it's interesting how you work > to get a > good bass sound... For a bass sound I like to record into a pitched-up loop and then pitch it back down. Especially when playing fretless guitar or flute the resulting such down-pitched bass tones come out well to my taste. As for you, being a piano player, I guess you can create good sounding bass notes directly on your instrument? > With short loops, it's very easy to get some rythmic textures (a la > Alva > Noto or Fennez). > Have you taste something similar ? Yep, I like that music too (keep Fennez on my iPod for instant access ;-) I like to sometimes start out with two or three empty loops of different length by a relation that will produce interesting poly rhythm. For example 1.0 - 1.5 - 1.75. Then I build up a groove by SUSSubstituting into all three loops simultaneously (from the lead melody). One such short inserted note will sound three times when looping back. I combine this with a "punch-in-bass" script that pitches up the loop one octave and SUSSubstitutes half the set 16ths Per Cycle value and also brings down the loops rate a bit under the normal pitch to compensate for the loop going faster when pitched up (this is for not loosing the timing). Generally I have four main setups for Mobius, with different 16ths Per Cycle settings that lends them well for playing in 4/4, 4/5, 6/8 and 7/8 timing measure. Many of my "sequenced processing" scripts are rewritten into four versions to match each timing measure. So it becomes a rather different experience to use the same looping tricks in different timing measures. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 17:28:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D44973BEF6; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 17:28:54 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=A1sk3lg7mL/oZ/7UvMBLHKRWJBXOofC7rxQtu8TI2jcVV3jArfkTyxSSj3EFYfwZTqsAJaq282dMbeL2oxGPSOJi65+6KXFQIzKxqgWVkLA9R3BxlvimYtDgEM8l1EwVTzr7sNMqv8eyAwEzWz2Q1F5hb6Z7XHXTmVhMkbgq73s=; X-YMail-OSG: UauSFs8VM1m3zYCvFAsR.6nOCTIoG.FfldcwE2DImfbcxH3M8N4ybXjg9XgDNO4PxjQrJshTVC9N8uWV4YnjN0PFDy0sMpkvXJ4.IKBR_Z1a6_RbAHkRmU2NZ70KKQ-- Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 10:22:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: How many loopers does Boss sell? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1942250171-1191777733=:57931" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <740796.57931.qm@web35108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 17:28:54 +0000 (UTC) --0-1942250171-1191777733=:57931 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit (LP1 can import and export loops, should that be your wish, from a laptop or an IP assignable network drive (I gather, it's not something i've ever done, or thus far had any inclination to do) and also has feedback control, mappable independent volume and feedback for each of the channels etc. etc. etc. It's versatile. The RC-50 COULD have been a great looper.) blah, blah... The RC-50 is $499. The LP-1 is how much??? $1,200.00? The EDP is $1000 w/o controlling pedal. Seems like the RC-50 is a pretty good value to me for 5 big ones. Steve Lawson wrote: >>>>I gotta disagree. The RC-50, while flawed, can be a wonderful thing. Its features are more geared to a specific type of looping. Not yours, but I've used it with great results with other musicians. It seems to be more of an ensemble device. For instance, I occasionally perform with a bassist and drummer. I import percussion loops so the drummer can play in sync. Adding parts as we play, we get some impressive jams that sound way more interesting then a plain trio. The LP1, EDP, DL4 cannot do this, at least not without a laptop. So, it may not be your cup of tea, but it works great for some people.<<<< That's great that it works for you, and that you've found a feature that works. Seriously, that's great. However, within those flaws are way way way too many things missing or poorly implemented for them to get away with calling it the 'Ultimate Looper'. The LP1 can import and export loops, should that be your wish, from a laptop or an IP assignable network drive (I gather, it's not something i've ever done, or thus far had any inclination to do) and also has feedback control, mappable independent volume and feedback for each of the channels etc. etc. etc. It's versatile. The RC-50 COULD have been a great looper, if they'd just got the feature set right. I'm not saying it's unusable - clearly it's usable or no-one would've bought them - but the feature set still points decidedly in the direction of it being a step-time loop builder and practice tool, rather than a versatile expressive tool suited to many different kinds of looping. But if you've found the looper for you in the RC-50, I have no intention or inclination to disavow you of that wonderful discovery, and I'm sure my ranting about it would have little impact anyway, given that you're happily gigging away. All good, nothing bad, cheers Steve www.stevelawson.net - site www.stevelawson.net/zencart/ - shop http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson --------------------------------- Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. --0-1942250171-1191777733=:57931 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
(LP1 can import and export loops, should that be your wish, from a laptop or an IP assignable network drive (I gather, it's not something i've ever done, or thus far had any inclination to do) and also has feedback control, mappable independent volume and feedback for each of the channels etc. etc. etc. It's versatile. The RC-50 COULD have been a great looper.) blah, blah...
 
The RC-50 is $499. The LP-1 is how much??? $1,200.00? The EDP is $1000 w/o controlling pedal. Seems like the RC-50 is a pretty good value to me for 5 big ones.

Steve Lawson <steve@steve-lawson.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>I gotta disagree. The RC-50, while flawed, can be a wonderful thing. Its features are more geared to a specific type of looping. Not yours, but I've used it with great results with other musicians. It seems to be more of an ensemble device. For instance, I occasionally perform with a bassist and drummer. I import percussion loops so the drummer can play in sync. Adding parts as we play, we get some impressive jams that sound way more interesting then a plain trio. The LP1, EDP, DL4 cannot do this, at least not without a laptop.  So, it may not be your cup of tea, but it works great for some people.<<<<

That's great that it works for you, and that you've found a feature that works. Seriously, that's great. However, within those flaws are way way way too many things missing or poorly implemented for them to get away with calling it the 'Ultimate Looper'. The LP1 can import and export loops, should that be your wish, from a laptop or an IP assignable network drive (I gather, it's not something i've ever done, or thus far had any inclination to do) and also has feedback control, mappable independent volume and feedback for each of the channels etc. etc. etc. It's versatile. The RC-50 COULD have been a great looper, if they'd just got the feature set right. I'm not saying it's unusable - clearly it's usable or no-one would've bought them - but the feature set still points decidedly in the direction of it being a step-time loop builder and practice tool, rather than a versatile expressive tool suited to many different kinds of looping. 

But if you've found the looper for you in the RC-50, I have no intention or inclination to disavow you of that wonderful discovery, and I'm sure my ranting about it would have little impact anyway, given that you're happily gigging away. All good, nothing bad, 

cheers

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TV. --0-1942250171-1191777733=:57931-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 18:01:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF5D23BEF6; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:01:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00ca01c8090c$39f58b70$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <002001c80860$cf6a4530$1001a8c0@succubus> <00e301c80868$62151930$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: Reply-to setting Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 20:02:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18VlclL3oacl/4/H3YOWpBKgeVLlx9xCde79o/ qWYCtoW7gWHPfTZ5R+enL6uOji+9ScopFnamT32xTKldu3W2Z6 qN4RS5u1SVXhkUfKEHsYHa3dzvxVUT+ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:01:49 +0000 (UTC) this works. now tell me, if this email works, too. thanx - tilmann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 12:29 AM Subject: Re: Reply-to setting > Tell me if this works... > > Kris > From info@ecadf.org Sun Oct 7 18:04:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1147 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 18:04:07 UTC Received: from mta6.brinkster.com (mta6.brinkster.com [65.182.109.75]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 730CA3BEE6; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mta6.brinkster.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B29C84CC0A4; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:44:58 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at X-Spam-Score: -0.362 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.362 tagged_above=-10 required=5 tests=[ADVANCE_FEE_1=0, ADVANCE_FEE_2=1.392, ALL_TRUSTED=-1.8, AWL=0.126, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_REAL_NAME=0.961, RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.558] Received: from mta6.brinkster.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mta6.brinkster.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dRBTNfYaNgDD; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:44:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail3b.brinkster.com (store3b.brinkster.com [10.0.6.155]) by mta6.brinkster.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194D94CC090; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:44:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:44:52 -0400 (EDT) From: info@ecadf.org To: info@ecadf.org Message-ID: <25626101.107861191779092072.JavaMail.root@store3b.brinkster.com> Subject: Your Immediate Advise Sir MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [41.207.162.3] Dear Rev/Pastor, I request for your strictest confidence and attention in this proposal of mine,irrespective of the fact that you did not expect a mail from me.I contact you based on the recommendation given to me by the Togo chamber of commerce and Industries here in Lome Togo.Some times opportunity comes but to most people their past sad experiences rub them the good/great opportunities becuase of fear but I hope it will not be the same with you. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 18:12:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17B443BEE4; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:12:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00ea01c8090d$b3b900d0$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <0af701c807c8$931bb7a0$61b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <22787C3A-1005-4BE7-9067-F1BD95B57506@mac.com> <002301c8085e$a633f4b0$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> Subject: Re: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 20:13:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19juQEpoyLr2Geal5rRARvYu67m6K7IU2zjeAe vlq5zgkkNw1tYtuiqk/VL9cJXyWEJvG6efyjtqITz3pBCm8ckg TPR2nLUOH2Vr2/Y3iiyborS+pwiY3jm Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:12:22 +0000 (UTC) >> hey: i can click some vocal groove, lay down a bassline on the >> contrabassflute and have a solo >> on the regular flute! that was about working WITH a looper. haven't found a way yet to play two flutes at once... > > Then it's about time you stop being lazy and learn to play your looper as > well as you play your flutes! ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 18:17:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1A573BEF0; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:17:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=d/X3X3PuAAzVua+oLn1wIXccw2bz948FF5gH1J9Z7pJbkHN2ihE7NIlwYxsXtKsHJmF89ork04/0DOjy7jGZ5crFUdnR9frqXImT6FNcYDsMztjDoCdWm/ik4a4X5oKJqQPU8sXmKem4BOk4KVqsoy+h22ZtyOyQFBiBFexswrY=; X-YMail-OSG: El4SiuoVM1lXWIigOsO905cUN5Bwejp9Q_iedYzvsFZ3.XWKg577KxYvvoc9WvtcNgCXpteAfoE.qB66t30BARSL_Wgyn4Mh3M2MgJWxCTL4Jve8hkI- Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 11:17:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Kupferschmid Subject: Re: How many loopers does Boss sell? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <740796.57931.qm@web35108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <118137.92559.qm@web34309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 18:17:58 +0000 (UTC) It kinda goes back to the "you get what you pay for" thing, sort of, I mean it's as I said before, figure out what feature sets you need, buy the looper that fits that bill and figure out what it's limitations are and how to work within them and how to break out of them. so, instead of ranting about which looper is better, just go with it, I mean I'm still looking for a device that'll play my guitar for me so I don't have to. --- Paul Richards wrote: > (LP1 can import and export loops, should that be > your wish, from a laptop or an IP assignable network > drive (I gather, it's not something i've ever done, > or thus far had any inclination to do) and also has > feedback control, mappable independent volume and > feedback for each of the channels etc. etc. etc. > It's versatile. The RC-50 COULD have been a great > looper.) blah, blah... > > The RC-50 is $499. The LP-1 is how much??? > $1,200.00? The EDP is $1000 w/o controlling pedal. > Seems like the RC-50 is a pretty good value to me > for 5 big ones. > > Steve Lawson wrote: > >>>>I gotta disagree. The RC-50, while flawed, can > be a wonderful thing. Its features are more geared > to a specific type of looping. Not yours, but I've > used it with great results with other musicians. It > seems to be more of an ensemble device. For > instance, I occasionally perform with a bassist and > drummer. I import percussion loops so the drummer > can play in sync. Adding parts as we play, we get > some impressive jams that sound way more interesting > then a plain trio. The LP1, EDP, DL4 cannot do this, > at least not without a laptop. So, it may not be > your cup of tea, but it works great for some > people.<<<< > > That's great that it works for you, and that > you've found a feature that works. Seriously, that's > great. However, within those flaws are way way way > too many things missing or poorly implemented for > them to get away with calling it the 'Ultimate > Looper'. The LP1 can import and export loops, should > that be your wish, from a laptop or an IP assignable > network drive (I gather, it's not something i've > ever done, or thus far had any inclination to do) > and also has feedback control, mappable independent > volume and feedback for each of the channels etc. > etc. etc. It's versatile. The RC-50 COULD have been > a great looper, if they'd just got the feature set > right. I'm not saying it's unusable - clearly it's > usable or no-one would've bought them - but the > feature set still points decidedly in the direction > of it being a step-time loop builder and practice > tool, rather than a versatile expressive tool suited > to many different kinds of looping. > > > But if you've found the looper for you in the > RC-50, I have no intention or inclination to disavow > you of that wonderful discovery, and I'm sure my > ranting about it would have little impact anyway, > given that you're happily gigging away. All good, > nothing bad, > > > cheers > > Steve > www.stevelawson.net - site > www.stevelawson.net/zencart/ - shop > http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog > www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? > Preview the hottest shows on Yahoo! TV. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 19:27:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D26B3BEE4; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:27:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01f001c80917$b8f3eab0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <000c01c808cc$a29c9320$1001a8c0@succubus> <97EF5595-2475-440B-B5DA-0017BEB18019@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Posting my looping rig's specifications Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:24:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <5HsZ-C.A.lSH.hMTCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:27:29 +0000 (UTC) Good idea, Per. What is that EQ? A VST you run in Plugue? Kris ----- Original Message ----- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 19:32:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8BD43BEDE; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:32:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <024a01c80918$bee409e0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <002001c80860$cf6a4530$1001a8c0@succubus> <00e301c80868$62151930$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <00ca01c8090c$39f58b70$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> Subject: Re: Reply-to setting Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:32:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <170OgD.A.cdH.3QTCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:32:07 +0000 (UTC) Works for me. So, the key is that unless you want to hard code your reply to address, you just leave it blank in your email configuration. Kris > this works. > now tell me, if this email works, too. > > thanx - tilmann > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 19:53:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A25EB3BEDD; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:53:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <025f01c8091b$49aeab50$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <001501c808e6$c1a6e620$1001a8c0@succubus> Subject: Re: AW: Posting my looping rig's specifications Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:50:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_025C_01C808E8.FE2372B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <7sRp5.A.9_H.9kTCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:53:33 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_025C_01C808E8.FE2372B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great idea, Per. I will collect these setup explanations and figure out = a way to post them on the Y2K7 website. In the mean time, here is my setup: a.. Mini Guitar (http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear/epi.jpg) into = Ernie Ball volume pedal b.. Volume pedal into RME Fireface 400 = (http://www.rme-audio.com/images/firewire/ff400_front2.jpg) c.. RME Fireface 400 into Lenovo ThinkPad T60p Notebook computer = (2.4Ghz X 2, 2 GIG of RAM, XP Pro: = http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/thinkpad/images/T60-1L.gif d.. Notebook computer loaded with max/msp a.. Screenshot of my main max/msp performance patch: = http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear/max-map.jpg (user interface) and = http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear/max-inside.jpg (under the hood) b.. Max/msp Loaded with: a.. Biquad max EQ patches for guitar and voice b.. Boogex amp VST amp sim a.. Max/msp Roland GR300 guitar synth simulator b.. Reaktor 5 VST plugin c.. Several rows of my own max/msp effect patches (everything from = pitches/delay effects, to granular, filters, modulators, degraders, and = random effectors) d.. Max/msp random FM synthesis percusion generator e.. The Kaiser Looper f.. Max/msp reverb, delay, chorus, and compressor g.. Wav file player/looper patch h.. Record to disk patch i.. Patch that converts all my effect patches into post-loop = effects c.. Screenshot of the Kaiser Looper: = http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear/kaiser-looper.jpg e.. Behringer FCB MIDI controller running into Fireface 400 to turn = patches on and off, controll the Kaiser Looper, and modify effect patch = parameters with two expression pedals More here: http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear.htm Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 8:06 AM Subject: Re: AW: Posting my looping rig's specifications > On 7 okt 2007, at 15.34, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: >=20 >> 1. which 16 alternative effects >=20 > They are all displayed in the Bidule part of the screenshot: > The Audio Switcher module have 16 output tags. Each such tag leads =20 > the signal into one effect chain. >=20 >> 2. why no effects post-looper? >=20 > I don't like that. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------=_NextPart_000_025C_01C808E8.FE2372B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Great idea, Per. I will collect these = setup=20 explanations and figure out a way to post them on the Y2K7 = website.
 
In the mean time, here is my = setup:
  • Mini Guitar (http://www.krispenhar= tung.com/gear/epi.jpg)=20 into Ernie Ball volume pedal
  • Volume pedal into RME Fireface 400 (http:/= /www.rme-audio.com/images/firewire/ff400_front2.jpg)
  • RME Fireface 400 into Lenovo ThinkPad = T60p=20 Notebook computer (2.4Ghz X 2, 2 GIG of RAM, XP Pro: http://www.p= c.ibm.com/us/thinkpad/images/T60-1L.gif
  • Notebook computer loaded with = max/msp
    • Screenshot of my main max/msp = performance patch:=20 http://www.krispe= nhartung.com/gear/max-map.jpg (user=20 interface) and http://www.kri= spenhartung.com/gear/max-inside.jpg (under=20 the hood)
    • Max/msp Loaded with:
      • Biquad max EQ patches for = guitar and=20 voice
      • Boogex amp VST amp = sim
      • Max/msp Roland GR300 guitar synth=20 simulator
      • Reaktor 5 VST = plugin
      • Several rows of my own max/msp = effect patches=20 (everything from pitches/delay effects, to granular, filters, = modulators,=20 degraders, and random effectors)
      • Max/msp random FM synthesis = percusion=20 generator
      • The Kaiser Looper
      • Max/msp reverb, delay, chorus, and = compressor
      • Wav file player/looper = patch
      • Record to disk patch
      • Patch that converts all my effect = patches into=20 post-loop effects
    • Screenshot of the Kaiser Looper: http://www.= krispenhartung.com/gear/kaiser-looper.jpg
  • Behringer FCB MIDI controller running = into=20 Fireface 400 to turn patches on and off, controll the Kaiser Looper, = and=20 modify effect patch parameters with two expression = pedals
More = here: http://www.krispenhartung= .com/gear.htm
 
Kris
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 8:06 = AM
Subject: Re: AW: Posting my looping = rig's=20 specifications

> On 7 okt 2007, at 15.34, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar = Straschill=20 wrote:
>
>> 1. which 16 alternative effects
> =
>=20 They are all displayed in the Bidule part of the screenshot:
> The = Audio=20 Switcher module have 16 output tags. Each such tag leads 
> = the=20 signal into one effect chain.
>
>> 2. why no effects=20 post-looper?
>
> I don't like that.
>
> = Greetings from=20 Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se = (Swedish)
>=20 www.looproom.com=20 (international)
>
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> ------=_NextPart_000_025C_01C808E8.FE2372B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 19:59:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C67E33BEF6; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:59:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <028801c8091c$4d0497a0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <001501c808e6$c1a6e620$1001a8c0@succubus> <025f01c8091b$49aeab50$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: AW: Posting my looping rig's specifications Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 13:57:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0285_01C808EA.0182FBF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <7Tbuw.A.vR.1qTCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:59:49 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0285_01C808EA.0182FBF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Per, Fabio, etc....these are on the Y2K7 bio web page now. There is a = link called "setup" underneath your instrument list. Send/update at = will. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Krispen Hartung=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 1:50 PM Subject: Re: AW: Posting my looping rig's specifications Great idea, Per. I will collect these setup explanations and figure = out a way to post them on the Y2K7 website. In the mean time, here is my setup: a.. Mini Guitar (http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear/epi.jpg) into = Ernie Ball volume pedal=20 b.. Volume pedal into RME Fireface 400 = (http://www.rme-audio.com/images/firewire/ff400_front2.jpg)=20 c.. RME Fireface 400 into Lenovo ThinkPad T60p Notebook computer = (2.4Ghz X 2, 2 GIG of RAM, XP Pro: = http://www.pc.ibm.com/us/thinkpad/images/T60-1L.gif=20 d.. Notebook computer loaded with max/msp=20 a.. Screenshot of my main max/msp performance patch: = http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear/max-map.jpg (user interface) and = http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear/max-inside.jpg (under the hood)=20 b.. Max/msp Loaded with:=20 a.. Biquad max EQ patches for guitar and voice=20 b.. Boogex amp VST amp sim a.. Max/msp Roland GR300 guitar synth simulator=20 b.. Reaktor 5 VST plugin=20 c.. Several rows of my own max/msp effect patches (everything = from pitches/delay effects, to granular, filters, modulators, degraders, = and random effectors)=20 d.. Max/msp random FM synthesis percusion generator=20 e.. The Kaiser Looper=20 f.. Max/msp reverb, delay, chorus, and compressor=20 g.. Wav file player/looper patch=20 h.. Record to disk patch=20 i.. Patch that converts all my effect patches into post-loop = effects c.. Screenshot of the Kaiser Looper: = http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear/kaiser-looper.jpg e.. Behringer FCB MIDI controller running into Fireface 400 to turn = patches on and off, controll the Kaiser Looper, and modify effect patch = parameters with two expression pedals More here: http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear.htm Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 8:06 AM Subject: Re: AW: Posting my looping rig's specifications > On 7 okt 2007, at 15.34, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill = wrote: >=20 >> 1. which 16 alternative effects >=20 > They are all displayed in the Bidule part of the screenshot: > The Audio Switcher module have 16 output tags. Each such tag leads =20 > the signal into one effect chain. >=20 >> 2. why no effects post-looper? >=20 > I don't like that. >=20 > Greetings from Sweden >=20 > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------=_NextPart_000_0285_01C808EA.0182FBF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Per, Fabio, etc....these are on the = Y2K7 bio=20 web page now. There is a link called "setup" underneath your instrument=20 list.  Send/update at will.
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Krispen=20 Hartung
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 = 1:50=20 PM
Subject: Re: AW: Posting my = looping rig's=20 specifications

Great idea, Per. I will collect these = setup=20 explanations and figure out a way to post them on the Y2K7=20 website.
 
In the mean time, here is my = setup:
  • Mini Guitar (http://www.krispenhar= tung.com/gear/epi.jpg)=20 into Ernie Ball volume pedal=20
  • Volume pedal into RME Fireface 400 = (http:/= /www.rme-audio.com/images/firewire/ff400_front2.jpg)=20
  • RME Fireface 400 into Lenovo = ThinkPad T60p=20 Notebook computer (2.4Ghz X 2, 2 GIG of RAM, XP Pro: http://www.p= c.ibm.com/us/thinkpad/images/T60-1L.gif=20
  • Notebook computer loaded with = max/msp=20
    • Screenshot of my main max/msp = performance=20 patch: http://www.krispe= nhartung.com/gear/max-map.jpg (user=20 interface) and http://www.kri= spenhartung.com/gear/max-inside.jpg (under=20 the hood)=20
    • Max/msp Loaded with:=20
      • Biquad max EQ patches for = guitar and=20 voice=20
      • Boogex amp VST amp = sim
      • Max/msp Roland GR300 guitar = synth=20 simulator=20
      • Reaktor 5 VST plugin =
      • Several rows of my own max/msp = effect=20 patches (everything from pitches/delay effects, to granular, = filters,=20 modulators, degraders, and random effectors)=20
      • Max/msp random FM synthesis = percusion=20 generator=20
      • The Kaiser Looper=20
      • Max/msp reverb, delay, chorus, = and=20 compressor=20
      • Wav file player/looper = patch=20
      • Record to disk patch=20
      • Patch that converts all my = effect patches=20 into post-loop effects
    • Screenshot of the Kaiser Looper: = http://www.= krispenhartung.com/gear/kaiser-looper.jpg
  • Behringer FCB MIDI controller = running into=20 Fireface 400 to turn patches on and off, controll the Kaiser Looper, = and=20 modify effect patch parameters with two expression = pedals
More here: http://www.krispenhartung= .com/gear.htm
 
Kris
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 8:06=20 AM
Subject: Re: AW: Posting my looping = rig's=20 specifications

> On 7 okt 2007, at 15.34, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar = Straschill=20 wrote:
>
>> 1. which 16 alternative effects
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>=20 They are all displayed in the Bidule part of the screenshot:
> = The Audio=20 Switcher module have 16 output tags. Each such tag leads  =
> the=20 signal into one effect chain.
>
>> 2. why no effects=20 post-looper?
>
> I don't like that.
>
> = Greetings=20 from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se = (Swedish)
>=20 www.looproom.com=20 (international)
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>=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0285_01C808EA.0182FBF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 21:20:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 569413BEE2; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:20:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=Db6hLTtaBMHmIpVvlVmz1gQt89OF7Gc/09oqZVdjvjI=; b=qDwTla6ncZiBDvcCZYUyG9IMNjo02nhh2kTUVAtE4X3Pfc900ebneGn50qLqDyusLs0Dis5f9Rz6BLJ3OVPDNtTDAPhMCAgzjoK7Faz9Bemcz76xBUN9WZmMXBgLvKXhudsYgTEu7Ayk+x/tvgIU8gtwIUhR5+AbJskcmcWK/Qo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=tz4cFJ5G6mrc996zfoUQpvzzZanFecZu1M421mLepCd0o4MoVgHPAbT+mrUE+F/zvaMfeoOdVPTtwdoHSS34M4J6bOlAnxwZCI9AfyXEh55L7VGY9Y4sTJDJJ+7Myg4Q7gM9Nb+EegM9YrYXGjh6uH9kyQEBQNzrYZrBLYBEXbs= In-Reply-To: <01f001c80917$b8f3eab0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <000c01c808cc$a29c9320$1001a8c0@succubus> <97EF5595-2475-440B-B5DA-0017BEB18019@gmail.com> <01f001c80917$b8f3eab0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Posting my looping rig's specifications Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:20:01 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <4XAQYB.A.eDC.I2UCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 21:20:08 +0000 (UTC) On 7 okt 2007, at 21.24, Krispen Hartung wrote: > What is that EQ? A VST you run in Plugue? Sonalkis is a very good plug-in available in the formats AU, VST and RTAS for Windows and Mac. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 7 22:03:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31A1C3BEE8; Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:03:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1201 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sun, 07 Oct 2007 22:03:14 UTC Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 14:43:12 -0700 From: Niall Munnelly To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Repeater's New OS, Etc Message-ID: <20071007214311.GA26585@zim.dreamhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Resent-Message-ID: <2YWsmD.A.NJD.ieVCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:03:15 +0000 (UTC) I can't seem to get the 2.4 OS to load on the Repeater - it keeps booting into 2.1. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 00:51:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDE703BEDE; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 00:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:51:21 UTC Message-ID: <20071007194440.bwyjs7p2gisk4004@69.89.21.76> Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:44:40 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box76.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kevinkissinger.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 00:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Paul Mimlitsch : > On Oct 6, 2007, at 6:24 AM, Paul Mimlitsch wrote: > > > 1) how many people on the list do solo non looping gigs? > Most of the time I play solo non-looping gigs. As a classical organist my work includes solo recitals and church services. In my current position, I am expected to improvise and the bulk of my work (when I am not accompanying others) is solo improv sans looping or fx. My paid gigs other than organ work (I've only been playing theremin =20 for a couple of years) on theremin include looping and non-looping work. Some all real-time, some that include my own tracks that are integral to the music (i.e. =20 -- not mere "backing" or accompaniment tracks). I also play some =20 selections solo with no looping. The variety of textures and forms =20 enables me to hold an audience's interest. Based on suggestions from =20 some members of this list and others I keep adding to my musical =20 vocabulary. > > 2) "the beauty of the single note line" - how many guitar players/ > players of multitimbral instruments can do an improv. gig using only > single note lines and hold an audiences attention? for how long? > Sometimes I include sections that are one-note, monophonic. These sections definatly are dramatic -- people don't want to breath! When I do such on an organ I use the mutations (non-unison stops 2 =20 2/3', and 1 3/5' stops) or solo stops rich in harmonics (bass =20 clarinet, bassoon, or earlier sounds such as krumhorn or dulzian. =20 Occasionally I will select a clear flute (ocarina-like) in the high =20 register. The stop will be one that is under expression (volume =20 controllable from a pedal). The point here is that when I reduce the texture down to a single =20 melody, one note at a time -- I choose an interesting timbre that I =20 can play expressively. Again, I don't think anyone would want to sit through an entire church =20 service or recital of one-note-at-a-time organ music however at =20 certain times, such a texture demands attention. > > 3) if you're not comfortable doing this, is that because of preference > (ie: vertical vs. linear hearing)? Being raised on a particular > instrument? Or did you gravitate towards your preferred instrument due > to how you hear things? > Ironically, it is linear hearing that attracted me to the organ: one of the premiere instruments for contrapuntal music. > > 4) if you play a mono timbral instrument (horns etc) is the desire to > "loop" a means of filling up vertical space to compliment your single > note line play? > When I am not playing the organ and synthesizers, I play the theremin =20 (which is monophonic). For me, looping is a way for me to create =20 canons and other imitative structures. However, I don't limit myself to monophonic melodies... that is, I use loops to achieve parallelism as well as counterpoint. > > Not sure if this makes sense - Just curious. > Enjoyed answering your questions. I am behind on email and I haven't =20 read but one or two responses. I decided to post my response and then =20 read the others. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 02:46:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EDC33BEDE; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 02:46:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Cc: References: Subject: RE: AW: Posting my looping rig's specifications Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 19:45:57 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c80955$5c7a05b0$6601a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcgJRyNNvC0Ulxl1TMGWasqoU/JJxAAAMfqg In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 02:46:03 +0000 (UTC) "> 2. why no effects post-looper? I don't like that." Neither do I, Post effects seem too be more trouble than they are worth to me, unless I'm actually mixing down, and involves more routing issues than I care to deal with, perhaps a bit of reverb on the overall sound, but in general, I prefer to print what ever effect I'm using on the loop, though these days I'm using not much more than delay and reverb. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 7:07 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: Posting my looping rig's specifications On 7 okt 2007, at 15.34, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > 1. which 16 alternative effects They are all displayed in the Bidule part of the screenshot: The Audio Switcher module have 16 output tags. Each such tag leads the signal into one effect chain. > 2. why no effects post-looper? I don't like that. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 03:27:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 126853BED8; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 03:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 03:27:43 UTC X-YMail-OSG: ya_lpzgVM1nybi8SNi5kjo5obPCCNiBpMbRVp1itXIQNgoAb Message-ID: <001001c8095a$27d47200$4101a8c0@MICHAELPLISHKA> From: "Michael Plishka" To: References: <013e01c807a4$4f3f0420$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> Subject: Re: My worst looping gig... Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:20:15 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C80930.3C547FB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 03:27:43 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C80930.3C547FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ahhh...it WASN'T a looping gig. Friday night I open the EDP, plug = everything in and there's no volume and a couple pots seem wacked out of = place and loose!!! AHHH!! SO the EDP just looked cool on stage and was = glorified technodecoration. Now I loop with the Boomerang for this = week's gigs... ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C80930.3C547FB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ahhh...it WASN'T a looping gig.  = Friday night=20 I open the EDP, plug everything in and there's no volume and a couple = pots seem=20 wacked out of place and loose!!! AHHH!!  SO the EDP just looked = cool on=20 stage and was glorified technodecoration.  Now I loop with the = Boomerang=20 for this week's gigs...
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C80930.3C547FB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 04:06:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 986CA3BEDA; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 04:06:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <02f901c80960$a214c640$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <000001c80955$5c7a05b0$6601a8c0@williamsteed> Subject: Re: AW: Posting my looping rig's specifications Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2007 22:06:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 04:06:43 +0000 (UTC) Interesting topic. I have to say, I built a patch for my max/msp system that allows me to click one button, and instantly every effect patch in my system gets moved to post-loop. However, I really don't use it that much. When I do use it, it is after I have layed some ambient loops down, I hit the post-loop button, and then I hit my special random effector button (another max patch I created). Basically, it randomly turns on one of my max/msp effect patches, applies it for 10 seconds, randomly selects another, then does this indefinitley. What I get is a nice overlap of effects. I can walk away and listen to max create some interesting patterns, or play along with it. Other that this, the only effect that I use post-loop is reverb. I don't like looping reverb, but apply it afterwards as a finishing effect...same reverb applied to the overall loop mix. Kris ----- Original Message ----- >"> 2. why no effects post-looper? > > I don't like that." > > > Neither do I, Post effects seem too be more trouble than they are worth to > me, unless I'm actually mixing down, and involves more routing issues than > I > care to deal with, perhaps a bit of reverb on the overall sound, but in > general, I prefer to print what ever effect I'm using on the loop, though > these days I'm using not much more than delay and reverb. > Bill > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 04:21:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C512A3BEDB; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 04:21:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 641 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 04:21:50 UTC X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,241,1188741600"; d="scan'208,217";a="77665921" Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C80960.68D538A9" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: Boomerang Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:05:06 +1000 Message-ID: <9C151BE24B28B54D870B5F89BD87EBCE9BDE77@aaunsw745.au.cbainet.com> In-Reply-To: <001001c8095a$27d47200$4101a8c0@MICHAELPLISHKA> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Boomerang Thread-Index: AcgJW0b6DoAFriJnTF2HWB+G9myuwQABPKMw From: "Sowonja, Tomson" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Oct 2007 04:05:02.0501 (UTC) FILETIME=[66B99D50:01C80960] Resent-Message-ID: <1ZZvaD.A.HNF.fBbCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 04:21:51 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C80960.68D538A9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know when the Boomerang 3 is being released? Is it still in development?=20 =20 I remember some discussion about it on the LD List a while ago - but Boomerang talk has been quiet as late.=20 =20 Cheers Tom ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE ***************************** =20 This e-mail message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains info= rmation which may be confidential.=20 If you are not the intended recipient please advise the sender by return em= ail, do not use or disclose the contents, and delete the message and any attachments from your= system. 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Does anyone= know when=20 the Boomerang 3 is being released? Is it still in development?=20
 
I remember = some=20 discussion about it on the LD List a while ago - but Boomerang talk has bee= n=20 quiet as late.
 
Cheers
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 08:12:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BF493BEDA; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:12:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003301c80983$0b2d8f00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 01:13:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:12:43 +0000 (UTC) A couple of people have mentioned a sentiment that I share with them: It's great to attach a face to the names of some of the people who contribute here at the l.d. board. Could we put a page up or ten up at the website that has photos next to all the people who are here at the site? I think it would be great if we could attach names to faces. If that would take up to much bandwidth then I would volunteer to put them up at the Live Looping Tribe at tribe.net where it is free to post photos. It'd be better to have it here at L.D. so, to that end, why doesn't everyone find their best mug shot and print their name on it so that we can start putting together a photo gallery of all the live loopers. yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 08:19:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB8D83BEDA; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:19:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2234 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 08:19:58 UTC Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20071008012226.00e20e08@mail.onemodelplace.com> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 01:23:10 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: Re: Andy butler live looping on the radio In-Reply-To: <4703BF2B.1030205@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-41816B3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:19:58 +0000 (UTC) Andy, BRILLIANT!!! -Simply lovely! Thank you!... Smiles, Cara :) At 05:11 PM 10/3/2007 +0100, you wrote: >andy butler interviewed for local radio > >hit this link > >http://futurefmplatform.podbean.com/ > >look for Program 8 > >and it's about 32 mins in > >interview, >edp demo >and (probably) an album track > > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: >269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 08:51:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41B633BED2; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20071008004102.04d42ec8@mail.onemodelplace.com> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 00:45:55 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: Re: little boxes (was survey) In-Reply-To: <697F55FB-9A99-498C-8632-9E022E6448CD@zoekeating.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-7F7F4E5E Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:51:20 +0000 (UTC) Coming in late here, (very busy) but I'm doing something similar in that I'm using a midi looping seq to control EDP in addition to doing so manually. As I'd mentioned earlier, the sw has access issues for me, so am using hardware for now, but it's a similar concept. -And, as the sequencer is a midi looper, I'm effectively running one looper with another. Smiles, CQ :) At 04:36 PM 10/2/2007 -0700, you wrote: >wot i mean is...i would think that people will choose their software >tools based on what is available for their OS. so their choice in the >survey might not say that much about their preferred looping 'school'. > >i mean, i would think that when someone needs any kind of tool...a >strobe tuner, a midi keyboard, a media player....they would google >what is out there for their OS. > >but that would be an interesting survey question! > >"would you install and run a different OS on your computer in order >to use a particular software looper?" > >yes Live and Mobius are obviously different - one is more 'sampler' >and one is more 'old skool EDP-esque'. (and i find the 'sampler-only' >qualities of Live to be annoying). but to overcome the 'sampler' >limitations a user might look around for what additional tools to >use, in combination with Live, in order to accomplish EDP-esque >looping (software plugin like Augustus or SooperLooper, or add an >external hardware looper into an input channel). > >by the way, i couldn't figure out how to make my looping setup fit >into the survey. > >- using a software looper to control a hardware looper. the audio is >recorded onto a hardware-looping device but all the controls are sent >from the software looper. > >is that a hardware or software preference? > >i'd love to know if anyone else does this. both electrix and bill >walker have told me i might be the only one but i don't believe that >at all. >i want my sub-group dammit! > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: >269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 08:55:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 448BF3BED5; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:55:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20071008014920.02fb4270@mail.onemodelplace.com> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 01:59:00 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper In-Reply-To: <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-41816B3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:55:47 +0000 (UTC) I use a combo of retrigger / sus-unrounded-multiply on the EDP. This=20 way I can comfortably play with others changing the loop length on the fly= =20 and / or retriggering if necessary. The performance is seamless and I can= =20 overdub while multiplying as well... For those not familiar with this EDP feature, it allows you to change=20 the loop length (either shorter or longer) on the fly and can be=20 unquantized so one can listen to a tempo and simply expand or contract the= =20 loop in real time. This is different from the Repeater in that the loop=20 actually has material added or subtracted from it with the EDP as you do=20 the multiply, whereas the Repeater can apply time stretching to the loop=20 using BPM rather than simply defining a length by ear as it were... -Not sure if the new Repeater sw has changed this... HTH... Smiles, Cara :) At 10:08 AM 10/5/2007 +0200, you wrote: >Hi folks > >When I loop _by_myself_, I'm quite happy with the musical freedom. If I=20 >have an idea in my head, I can transform it into sounding music on a=20 >looper more or less to my satisfaction. > >When I play with others and _I_set_the_rhyhthm_ (and often also the bass=20 >line) on my looper, it also works out quite well. > >When it comes to playing together with other acoustic musicians in a live= =20 >setting where _they_set_the_tempo_ , there still seems to be a long way to= go. >Recently, I jammed with a couple acoustic musicians where I didn't=20 >dominate the song structure. So, the tempo was varying about ca. +/- 20=20 >BPM. Eventually, I had to turn my RC-2 off. > >To make a long story short: What looping features & skills do you need to= =20 >be able to play live with other musicians? >How do you keep in sync and keep up with tempo properly (acoustic=20 >instruments only and no drummer with a midi trigger)? > >My first guess is that you need a looper with the following features: >- Retrigger loop(s) >- Tap tempo > >So, what hardware loopers are able to do this? >Retrigger: >I can't really do that with my RC-50 + RC-2. You can't really stop and=20 >restart the loop because the ther will be a big "hole" in the music (maybe= =20 >it works if you add a lot of reverb or put another loop under it?). > >Tap Tempo: >More or less useless on RC-50 (might work if you only have percussion). >RC-2: works quite fine. But you cannot use an external foot pedal for that= =20 >(tap tempo will work only in stop mode). That means you have to bend down. > >So, how about other hardware loopers? And software (Mobius or= SooperLooper)? > >Have you experience with handling such situations in practice? > >Best regards >Buzap > > >-- >Psssst! Schon vom neuen GMX MultiMessenger geh=F6rt? >Der kanns mit allen: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/multimessenger > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date:=20 >10/2/2007 6:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each=20 other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 = 6:43 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 09:03:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B7E73BEDB; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:03:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20071008020305.02fb7468@mail.onemodelplace.com> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 02:06:44 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper In-Reply-To: <200710051125.l95BPfv3009775@post.webmailer.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-41816B3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:03:31 +0000 (UTC) Ah, the tap tempo on Repeater! lol! forgot! (blonde) oops! used to use that myself too! :) lol! The Diff with the EDP that I personally prefer is that I can hold down a pedal to define a loop length and release it which completes the function and triggers the loop all at once, which saves me a lot of work / thought in live settings... Smiles, Cara :) At 01:25 PM 10/5/2007 +0200, you wrote: >The Repeater works well in this setup. You can either tap the tempo as you = >play, and the Repeater will speed up or slow down accordingly, or you can (= >if I remember correctly) even have it sync to an acoustic bass drum track. = >I never did that with the Repeater, but with a Quasimidi Sirius sending mid= >i clock to a Repeater. > >Other possibilties: >1. Make sure somebody who is able to dominate the tempo (normally, a loud d= >rummer) can hear your loop very clearly. At best, very loud in his inears. = >I also played with a drummer who was very happy to look at the flashing tap= > tempo light of my KP2 synced to the Repeater. > >2. Use loops which work well with tempo changes. > >3. Learn to play very tight. > > Rainer > > > To make a long story short: What looping features & skills do you need > to be > > able to play live with other musicians? > > How do you keep in sync and keep up with tempo properly (acoustic > > instruments only and no drummer with a midi trigger)? > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: >10/2/2007 6:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 09:10:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAC723BED8; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:10:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: eterogeneo Reply-To: eterogeneo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: FCB "Direct Select" ? (was: Posting my looping rig's specification s) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:08:42 +0200 Message-ID: <830MhPtJlly3.YvBhrlmJ@smtp.tre.biz> X-Mailer: EPOC e-mail Versione 2.10 Resent-Message-ID: <9UBazC.A.QOF.yPfCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:10:10 +0000 (UTC) I use a "photografic memory" to remember the button where i stored a function on the FCB. I use 5 banks to control Mobius and i use to "group" in a bank "a set of functions" that have sense to me, so i have only to remember what "kinds" of functions i have set up on a single bank. I just run the Up and Dwn buttons and i'm in front to another group of functions. It works for me, but i've always been curious of different experiences about using "Direct Select" enabled on the FCB. Anyone ? Greetings fabio www.eterogeneo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 09:40:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26B993BED5; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:40:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=ZFK9qP9GfvPSRy4VyQbZ+dTyIc67F1yTSU5RwiC8fyU=; b=qbSBCULEZxDQoLZM0XMREMSq/e0XO4DdSKTB1VFNB0woTHRCOUIJRbeAcX8wmQDXawBkMh42uv3xV0eMLiXZBgOf0Qil0KOgXM8NJZnCgV++w50cPdze4b5oIDj7RtyfE889pdqmqTGY3SgOt5mP4ZOcW8DI6dkxxyyvHh6uvPM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=J41WfFK6j6tcFMx421CZhOS+AhUY5u1JP91No8tfp/JBG8nC7rjEb1d1Rob+5caBRRRBvc/A0Ydf54Ne24PrtMhJRZVUusfdIOsPX+1EUn/e179x388LEHhvv+g4yx4PcLX5vYWcT1RR1JbeGy5dzfSNR7IioSGRMCK26DQawF0= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20071008014920.02fb4270@mail.onemodelplace.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20071008014920.02fb4270@mail.onemodelplace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <140EA483-721C-4091-AF18-327A3B473849@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:39:59 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:40:05 +0000 (UTC) On 8 okt 2007, at 10.59, Cara Quinn wrote: > I use a combo of retrigger / sus-unrounded-multiply on the EDP. That's my fav too, when looping un-synced with a group. :-) I migrated the technique into my Mobius looping laptop setup as well. With the latest Mobius version it works well for me as long as I stay on just one track. I've been thinking about making a script for Record that also deletes all other tracks... or maybe that changes the rate (pitch+length) of slave tracks to adapt to the new tempo... wonder if that is possible? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 09:47:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 561CA3BED2; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:47:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=X03apMisAYy3EUSDL4y0PlXxpLOVBgILZLxvMjXBAZQ=; b=pjXmBUPyhg88JP1+keljFQZBWaGD5X6QeUswqm7+wRTG4TbA+VZmZ701esS5K0/wHVmEzj2X3fb/kLLXhusGXMH4DL1yqJNylkQ0d6HrdHUC41mwl0U+aFXENPm9dzlaapYEet87Zndg87SrXaYCToIE0VLgiPXuajMrv3JSQYA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Z6hLboNfj3dotsJyOVSqmeeeqeW0FqLLzYez0Ddd3TcovtcQ0uz0NdRPzdDMXnu2voHsZFPoqlqmDb4RJu0hCyUb3tp2ZZFZobaEiiOSvHwQtzLz2U5Nn4rsQJ6/W18kBA4sOwzohqrC/xaYH2FS9+QGWsIRU/X0WMibMEy74oQ= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <830MhPtJlly3.YvBhrlmJ@smtp.tre.biz> References: <830MhPtJlly3.YvBhrlmJ@smtp.tre.biz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <26CA42A2-99EB-4948-ABC2-33B810425D35@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: FCB "Direct Select" ? (was: Posting my looping rig's specification s) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:47:15 +0200 To: Loopers X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:47:21 +0000 (UTC) On 8 okt 2007, at 11.08, eterogeneo wrote: > I use a "photografic memory" to remember the button where i stored a > function on the FCB. Two of my banks are exactly the same as I was using with my EDP five years ago. But now with 7 banks I both use "photographic memory" and the linguistic trick of placing functions that have to do with Fading in bank Five, functions that have to do with Speed in in bank Six, direct Select Track in bank Seven. FCB button 9 and 10 are duplicated over some banks for the two functions Previous- and Next Loop. > I use 5 banks to control Mobius and i use to "group" in a bank "a > set of > functions" that have sense to me, so i have only to remember what > "kinds" > of functions i have set up on a single bank. > I just run the Up and Dwn buttons and i'm in front to another group of > functions. > It works for me, but i've always been curious of different experiences > about using "Direct Select" enabled on the FCB. > Anyone ? I'm always curious about how others organize their real-time looping flow. Thanks for sharing! Are you bringing a paper print-out of your bank setup to Santa Cruz? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 11:38:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 166913BEC7; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:38:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:38:47 +0200 (MEST) Message-Id: <200710081138.l98BclZv003262@post.webmailer.de> X-Authentication-Warning: teg.store: httpd set sender to rs@moinlabs.de using -f To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rs@moinlabs.de Subject: Re: Re: FCB "Direct Select" ? (was: Posting my looping rig's specification s) X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 512675 / 192.109.190.88 X-RZG-MBID: 0AP3TDtljfgdCQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-RZG-CLASS-ID: em07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:38:50 +0000 (UTC) > I'm always curious about how others organize their real-time looping =20 > flow. Thanks for sharing! Are you bringing a paper print-out of your =20 I'll just throw in my setup here (note that I haven't worked on it for a lo= ng time, so I might make some changes sometime): A total of four banks for Mobius. Bank 1: Transport, Track/Loop switching Copy SusNextLoop NextLoop Pause NextTrack Bounce Retrigger PrevLoop Realign PrevTrack Pedals: Volume, SecFB Bank 2: Standard Looping Record Insert Speed Redo NextLoop Overdub Multiply Reverse Undo Mute Pedals: Volume, SecFB Bank 3: Advanced Looping Shuffle RateUp SusSpeed SlipFwd SusReplace Rate0 RateDown SusReverse SlipBack Stutter Pedals: Volume, SecFB Bank 4: "Guitar Combo" Record NextLoop Speed Mute NextTrack Overdub Multiply Reverse Undo PrevTrack Pedals: Guitar Volume, Guitar Wah Then there's the computer keyboard used to select/mute individual tracks, a= djusting PrimaryFB, Panning, switching between my most used quantize, sync,= sus and shuffle settings, MIDI Start/Stop, Master/Global Reset, changing p= arameters ("cursor style") and a few scripts. I don't use direct select, if that is the mode where each action is a seque= nce of two presses of 0-10, the first for bank, the second for patch within= the bank. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 12:23:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D744B3BED9; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:23:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <003301c80983$0b2d8f00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Subject: RE: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:23:14 +0200 Message-ID: <004a01c809a5$fff7e8b0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 In-Reply-To: <003301c80983$0b2d8f00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Thread-Index: AcgJoTccGaml+YQBQsKnEVj6Ug5aBQABFaRA Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:23:17 +0000 (UTC) > Could we put a page up or ten up at the website that has photos next to all the people who are here at the site? good idea. Some of us are active in the Chain-Tape Collective, and have posted a photo. http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=members -Michael www.michaelpeters.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 12:48:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 961333BED9; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:48:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=NahgKhyXBO4KohQdfBzvd3WJAO1PqemELpIYA2xaHmA=; b=oLsg1NSTnWfS28Aet1Eq3Mu+j+qVoSBAEUfEgVF+eo3bXSf9IbYeGZgggFQ3kEZc7cAOFLhpqcyIC8foaXaOMIN5bGui2Km9p+48u84FlxHzt5kGQtPe6IidJJSZ+0Cr3B4RhImrIsuTitfuUD9XhjrPHrftrWJKDfglD80Ja7Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=epHTfa6fEtoQqhMO3gw5YeZA1qZbOTK655xY952YFupanU4gm/h4gixhCjuawgBALi300VG+YVlXtqgOpYqJLiUKznpTISM6fPB3jd5UCQ5+8wtQJ2zm5KTnT5fvOZiICL2Wsto8huvk0Ne9M0+JmyGSENCElxIvR+DIzYhSlh0= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <004a01c809a5$fff7e8b0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <003301c80983$0b2d8f00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <004a01c809a5$fff7e8b0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:47:52 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:48:00 +0000 (UTC) >> Could we put a page up or ten up at the website that has photos >> next to > all the people who are here at the site? On 8 okt 2007, at 14.23, Michael Peters wrote: > good idea. > > Some of us are active in the Chain-Tape Collective, and have posted > a photo. > http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=members One idea could be to use www.facebook.com. We could have a LD Group there to upload pictures. Actually, each group member's own picture will automatically upload to the Loopist Group's "members index". When I received a facebook invitation from UK loopist Steve Lawson I thought it was "just another tribe thing" but half a year later the facebook network exploded. With facebook you can set your own pref's to block out adds and stuff that you find distracting. Something that is not possible on for example MySpace. Many people talk about all the "games" at facebook and how stupid that is, but you do not have to install all those add-ons; you can simply use it as a super easy communication window with built-in photo album. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 13:27:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 078573BED9; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:27:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:27:42 EDT Subject: Re: My worst looping gig... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cb6.1a36a49f.343b8a4e_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:27:51 +0000 (UTC) --part1_cb6.1a36a49f.343b8a4e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/7/07 11:27:53 PM, mike@michaelplishka.com writes: > Now I loop with the Boomerang for this week's gigs... > now you're talkin!.....:) "Who needs a six pac when ya got a keg!".....scoots galore "THOUGHTS ON EXCERCISE" www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com --part1_cb6.1a36a49f.343b8a4e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 10/7/07 11:27:53 PM, mike@michaelplishka.com writes:


Now I loop with the B= oomerang for this week's gigs...


now you're talkin!.....:)




"Who needs a six pac when ya got a keg!".....scoots galore "THOUGHTS ON EXCE= RCISE"

www.ct-collective.com
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/
http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11




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See what's=20= new at http://www.aol.com --part1_cb6.1a36a49f.343b8a4e_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 13:32:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B760F3BEB2; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:32:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:32:03 EDT Subject: Re: AW: Posting my looping rig's specifications To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c96.1991f250.343b8b53_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:32:37 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c96.1991f250.343b8b53_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/8/07 12:07:01 AM, khartung@cableone.net writes: > I hit my special random effector button > (another max patch I created). Basically, it randomly turns on one of my > max/msp effect patches, applies it for 10 seconds, randomly selects another, > then does this indefinitley. > even as a luddite i must say.....SWEET!.....i wish i had a SREB "Who needs a six pac when ya got a keg!".....scoots galore "THOUGHTS ON EXCERCISE" www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com --part1_c96.1991f250.343b8b53_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 10/8/07 12:07:01 AM, khartung@cableone.net writes:


I hit my special rand= om effector button
(another max patch I created). Basically, it randomly turns on one of my
max/msp effect patches, applies it for 10 seconds, randomly selects another,=
then does this indefinitley.


even as a luddite i must say.....SWEET!.....i wish i had a SREB




"Who needs a six pac when ya got a keg!".....scoots galore "THOUGHTS ON EXCE= RCISE"

www.ct-collective.com
http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/
http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11




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See what's=20= new at http://www.aol.com --part1_c96.1991f250.343b8b53_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 13:49:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D1243BED6; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:49:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:49:41 EDT Subject: Re: Boomerang To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c3a.1efcc5af.343b8f75_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:49:56 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c3a.1efcc5af.343b8f75_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/8/07 12:22:02 AM, tomson.sowonja@cba.com.au writes: > Boomerang 3 > tom.....mike nelson sent me some paper to pass out at y2k7 about the RANG III and the CHORUS*DELAY PEDAL (E-155).....it said something like an end of year DEC 07 RANG release, but you know how those predictions work out, the (E-155) max delay 2 seconds, is shipping now.....a small blurb on the RANG III used the "M" word, "the initial release may not have MIDI, but it will be added as quickly as possible and upgrading is possible via the internet. THERE will be no USB connectivity nor permanet loop storage.".....i'm just a friendly messanger and know nothing about nothing.....:).....i do know that i really want to get my hands on that puppy.....mike nelson and company are burried with the release of the CHORUS*DELAY PEDAL so i would suggest being patient about the RANG for now.....i told him he had better pick up the pace, or else!.....:).....michael "Who needs a six pac when ya got a keg!".....scoots galore "THOUGHTS ON EXCERCISE" www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com --part1_c3a.1efcc5af.343b8f75_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 10/8/07 12:22:02 AM, tomson.sowonja@cba.com.au writes:

Boomerang 3


tom.....mike nelson sent me some paper to pass out at y2k7 about the RANG= III and the CHORUS*DELAY PEDAL (E-155).....it said something like an end of= year DEC 07  RANG release, but you know how those predictions work ou= t, the (E-155) max delay 2 seconds, is shipping now.....a small blurb on the= RANG III used the "M" word, "the initial release may not have MIDI, but it=20= will be added as quickly as possible and upgrading is possible via the inter= net. THERE will be no USB connectivity nor permanet loop storage.".....i'm j= ust a friendly messanger and know nothing about nothing.....:).....i do know= that i really want to get my hands on that puppy.....mike nelson and compan= y are burried with the release of the CHORUS*DELAY PEDAL so i would suggest=20= being patient about the RANG for now.....i told him he had better pick up th= e pace, or else!.....:).....michael




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See what's=20= new at http://www.aol.com --part1_c3a.1efcc5af.343b8f75_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 14:11:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B5B13BEDB; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <032601c809b4$4824be70$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <003301c80983$0b2d8f00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:05:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Rick, you mean sort of a L.D. Hollywood Squares approach, but alot more squares? :) I like it!!! (For those who remember that game show in the states) Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 14:17:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD4293BED5; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <033c01c809b5$5f4b4c80$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <830MhPtJlly3.YvBhrlmJ@smtp.tre.biz> Subject: Re: FCB "Direct Select" ? (was: Posting my looping rig's specification s) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:13:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <1PxYw.A.oEF.GwjCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Wow, Fabio, do you really have a photographic memory? That is cool. I've only known two people who had this, the prior director of work organization (my boss), and a keyboard player I used to play with years ago. I recall one gig where our singer lost his voice, and we handed the lyrics sheet to the keyboard player. He glanced at it for 10 seconds, and then sang the lyrics verbatim. I wonder if Jaco had a photographic memory. For me, my memory is so shot from over-use and sleep deprivation, that I have to write everything down. My FCB is completely labeled with each function on every button, three banks worth. And my max patch has a section with the letters and numbers of my keyboard mapped to similar functions. My memory used to be a lot better when I was getting my bachelor's degree, as I distinctly remember memorizing pages and pages of text on the elaboration of specific philosophical theories, and then writing them down during essay exams. I just feel like my brain has been re-wired since then...who downgraded my processor when I was asleep at night? :) Kris ----- Original Message ----- >I use a "photografic memory" to remember the button where i stored a > function on the FCB. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 14:22:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88E173BEE0; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:22:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <036b01c809b6$0b760180$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: AW: Posting my looping rig's specifications Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:18:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0366_01C80983.BFFDDBB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:22:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0366_01C80983.BFFDDBB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When CT-Birds is released, you'll be able to hear me using this random = effect morphing feature, applied to a recording of the Red Breasted = Nuthatch! I have half tempted to share the MP3 now, but I don't want = to steal the project's fire. / Kris In a message dated 10/8/07 12:07:01 AM, khartung@cableone.net writes: I hit my special random effector button (another max patch I created). Basically, it randomly turns on one = of my max/msp effect patches, applies it for 10 seconds, randomly selects = another, then does this indefinitley. even as a luddite i must say.....SWEET!.....i wish i had a SREB ------=_NextPart_000_0366_01C80983.BFFDDBB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
When CT-Birds is released, you'll be able to hear = me using=20 this random effect morphing feature, applied to a recording of the = Red=20 Breasted Nuthatch!   I have half tempted to share the MP3 now, = but I=20 don't want to steal the project's fire. /=20 Kris

In a message dated 10/8/07 12:07:01 AM, khartung@cableone.net = writes:
I hit my special random effector = button
(another max=20 patch I created). Basically, it randomly turns on one of = my
max/msp=20 effect patches, applies it for 10 seconds, randomly selects = another,
then=20 does this indefinitley.


even as a luddite i must = say.....SWEET!.....i wish i=20 had a SREB

 ------=_NextPart_000_0366_01C80983.BFFDDBB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 14:27:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 915CF3BEE1; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:27:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1785 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:27:12 UTC X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 09:54:01 -0400 (EDT) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE, (Flickr group) In-Reply-To: <003301c80983$0b2d8f00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Message-ID: References: <003301c80983$0b2d8f00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:27:12 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Rick Walker wrote: > A couple of people have mentioned a sentiment that I share with them: > It's great to attach a face to the names of some of the people who contribute > here at the l.d. board. > > Could we put a page up or ten up at the website that has photos next to all > the people who are here at the site? > > I think it would be great if we could attach names to faces. I created a Flickr group this morning to get this started. If you are on Flickr, add yourself to the "LoopersDelightLoopers group", and add a picture of yourself to the group. As I created the group five minutes ago, at the moment there's just one picture of me playing theremin :). http://www.flickr.com/groups/500341@N24/ Hope this helps. regards, Steve Burnett Subscape Annex http://www.subscapeannex.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 14:35:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66B003BEDB; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:35:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <037e01c809b7$8f99ddf0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <003301c80983$0b2d8f00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 08:28:55 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <_IvhVC.A.ntF.ZAkCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:35:05 +0000 (UTC) Almost like this? http://www.y2kloopfest.com/Bio-Photos.html Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 14:36:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C84F93BEEE; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:36:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: midifriedchicken@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com (Loopers Delight) Subject: Augustas Loop Question Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:36:33 +0000 Message-Id: <100820071436.14732.470A4071000E946D0000398C2215593414020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWlkaWZyaWVkY2hpY2tlbkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_14732_1191854193_0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:36:35 +0000 (UTC) --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_14732_1191854193_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I am currently using Sooperlooper (Mac) as my software looper, but I continue to get clicks and pops. This is not a CPU issue. I dowloaded the Augustus Looper and it seems to sound very good with no pops. The controls are confusing, but does anybody use Aug Loop as a live looper? How is its control layout? Can you overdub? Does it resemble the EDP paradigm at all? Thanks MFC --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_14732_1191854193_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I am currently using Sooperlooper (Mac) as my software looper, but I continue to get clicks and pops. This is not a CPU issue. I dowloaded the Augustus Looper and it seems to sound very good with no pops.
The controls are confusing, but does anybody use Aug Loop as a live looper? How is its control layout? Can you overdub? Does it resemble the EDP paradigm at all?
Thanks
MFC
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_14732_1191854193_0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 14:43:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B04A3BEE6; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:43:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 636 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:43:30 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=EG6yDzsx5b2pPbMgjQPt6YMKeSRquKt6osg1PG+eO2U=; b=mKBQJcPv2EDbv+KZFp0H0kJgrilI94pbIy7klh3k+y8h0cAh+6mjfwBKmRSDYkflRL2a/x+pjZnbfTP5T3rybBXnbhiXDybo85WXucOzUcI+ENKB9sPtVsJQITI0ZP48Y6pkKAZrM19Mw7AxmXQWQ9DrHsiKCDlZXZhmDtt9UvQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=H3ZxMWC+jkEi2wnTvGe4U55gJ1qbCcGhsukkuUt2Fwe/Cm9TwAo2f23lniX652GGfHyVnxhlBqRCszlRCAzHjEAnXPOM6P2i1E/U10efuy5IRAHoM+Vnj5BvFPx6OXlX+De3gY+BzKb3Uraem87rdkqCG9JABKIdf00W/JFPGic= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 07:43:28 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20071008014920.02fb4270@mail.onemodelplace.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20071008014920.02fb4270@mail.onemodelplace.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:43:31 +0000 (UTC) It's not clear to me how that would help, since simply changing the length of the loop to match a new tempo is only musically effective (in a conventional sense) if the audio information contained within the loop matches the tempo of what everyone else is playing. I can see if you've got an ambient pad with no real "tempo", but having four 125 bpm bar lengths full of 120bpm music (for example) isn't going to "work" in conventional music. Do you re-record the loop information when you do this? TH On 10/8/07, Cara Quinn wrote: > I use a combo of retrigger / sus-unrounded-multiply on the EDP. This > way I can comfortably play with others changing the loop length on the fly > and / or retriggering if necessary. The performance is seamless and I can > overdub while multiplying as well... > > For those not familiar with this EDP feature, it allows you to change > the loop length (either shorter or longer) on the fly and can be > unquantized so one can listen to a tempo and simply expand or contract the > loop in real time. This is different from the Repeater in that the loop > actually has material added or subtracted from it with the EDP as you do > the multiply, whereas the Repeater can apply time stretching to the loop > using BPM rather than simply defining a length by ear as it were... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 14:50:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B28573BEDB; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:50:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=K8cplP0Lo17S/vayvhlONJb02rZfKrwG8XtVLmStXKg=; b=QQTK7syEHY8vecqaMKS0TIRxFrmd8jcpdc1xOagB1NjEG92nW9TdKARHcbHtNW+htR/AexO8DemdulzyNG6Rnws6RjsUbtU+tRjEa/viXu6D+X5/rRWPL+d9YvkuThf7UCAbFlQsGX7jRTTBTS12ClAIG0dGCK2apq0YVRLMBFQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dSKpAp7RDZU72lIWZ5jnxaFTGX34EQ6biBil2zK+WVEmoeMO2QZVuHwbwBb7MbTM1niU+GyNmZnGEU/09sOApjuLVp429rSd7FXeMN4y6rAzRJUQgozjlJiRpCZj63TSqnYBo7zZQWaQl2TtoKvpKC0WOETZU5xTtSSiRQoRQbA= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 07:25:48 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FCB "Direct Select" ? (was: Posting my looping rig's specification s) In-Reply-To: <033c01c809b5$5f4b4c80$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <830MhPtJlly3.YvBhrlmJ@smtp.tre.biz> <033c01c809b5$5f4b4c80$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:50:56 +0000 (UTC) I'd be interested in seeing pictures of how everyone's labeled their FCB. If only there was a MIDI foot controller with an LCD display above each button...and that didn't cost $1000. TH On 10/8/07, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > > For me, my memory is so shot from over-use and sleep deprivation, that I > have to write everything down. My FCB is completely labeled with each > function on every button, three banks worth. And my max patch has a section > with the letters and numbers of my keyboard mapped to similar functions. > Kris > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 14:55:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 172A73BEE2; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:55:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=BolZ9sgbLcvUjGK6MGqt779g6JeJrgmjwBUaKfETdh8=; b=IALNhM9V9JLqpnI3zQf7iNjXNEr4GmUKyOyW0Qb3g214QSwGCGK36tn7Til5aCs/ibrwJ1jhOPb866DRFYoMk5NEfi+MzrulnSV1c+ZK+Ru9pIMuf0dgWTNsCB4rir5B52XrQUJ2SfdIGRWSW3olgQ6HbOuhqSz9JSlZXvDMQVg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=H7t5TWnGrFP880q58lY8ckyIiSqIe35WjQCtdHnUUGyJDkb4+9By5VbN3oaAX5PLPb/ReHBq3u1vZdQ8NsRaD9lsOQ2o51z7zwQnZz+RZTSKMOuX3i3MJA659HCXMd2pjZXIahYIn8ULSyWIqmZh93V/CGicq2ijqVuHyDRL8FU= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <100820071436.14732.470A4071000E946D0000398C2215593414020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> References: <100820071436.14732.470A4071000E946D0000398C2215593414020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Augustas Loop Question Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:55:32 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:55:39 +0000 (UTC) On 8 okt 2007, at 16.36, midifriedchicken@comcast.net wrote: > oes anybody use Aug Loop as a live looper? Yes. > How is its control layout? Best is to read the MIDI control specification chart in the manual and wire up pedals to send the required events for calling the functions. > Can you overdub? Yes. Two ways. Either by "opening" the Freeze Loop button or by raising the input level when the loop is in overdub mode (which is the normal state, since it is after all a tape delay simulating plug- in). > Does it resemble the EDP paradigm at all? I managed to mimic the EDP paradigm pretty well for my Powerbook with Live 6 (or should I rather say, my "Mobius paradigm", but that is essentially my old EDP paradigm plus some pitch shifting stuff). This would not be relevant if you do not use Live as the host, but what I did was to fabricate MIDI clips i Live to run the "EDP behaviors" enabled by the functionality in Augustus. My notes for the FCB1010 foot controller gives a listing of what EDP style looping I achieved: FCB BANK 0 (loop A) 01 Overdub 1 bar 02 Multiply to 8 bars 03 Replace 04 Overdub 16ths 05 Reverse 06 Input fx: Harmonizer 07 Input fx: 16ths Acid Sweep Delay 08 Input fx: Bellish 09 Input fx: Autofilter lo cut 10 Autofade FCB BANK 1 (loop B) 01 Overdub 1 bar 02 "Multiply" to 8 bars 03 Replace 04 Overdub 16ths 05 Reverse 06 Input fx: Harmonizer 07 Time Warp 2 08 Insert Grid 1 09 SUSSubstitute Grid 2 10 Autofade FCB BANK 2 (loop A + B, different octaves for some intervals) 01 C 02 D 03 Eb 04 E 05 F 06 G 07 Ab 08 A 09 Bb 10 Solo input instrument channel Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 15:03:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA39C3BED2; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:03:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=mekixFstRcu3Zo8F28k20C5RrMYy3T9mKS9hV8u+xso=; b=JIUSM5SXagfzxYzDQZH/u17DV3IcjGSj/ROlMu4ShNg3gY22tKHdyRk0ip0DuMj8sRkRFaUT1Ic+1BFWl/T7TtzzS2zHbdIopFbFqE/zHW+1XZA4q7eyySvSKzdysxc7PmhZSgE7hp4JOZXUm5xzSJ3xqMjvZOJn46uyyLCIl60= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=fe9X4UW4X+1YxAah13psJJ88Bp8lPBk6hNmCeafSJpHeQJ/NrF0BKcyQ9C5cnFdhfLmLgfnHv6ZkS5TJBCMSxId40JGmP3gTn0eTglAY8eGf+UWDm3CLw+aFvra4GvuuvrOFUk4GfiWTkvKul6obzqzkekyzI75+6noP7PiIKDI= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <830MhPtJlly3.YvBhrlmJ@smtp.tre.biz> <033c01c809b5$5f4b4c80$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: FCB "Direct Select" ? (was: Posting my looping rig's specification s) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:03:33 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <0m6GmD.A.JuG.LbkCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:03:40 +0000 (UTC) On 8 okt 2007, at 16.25, Travis Hartnett wrote: > I'd be interested in seeing pictures of how everyone's labeled > their FCB I'm not labeling mine, but I use a system that is easy to remember. Here's a schematic of that system: http://www.looproom.com/mobius/FCB_banks2007pboy.pdf Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 15:05:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 449A23BEE2; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:05:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1196 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:05:06 UTC Message-ID: <004601c809b9$c19953b0$5901a8c0@bobdell> Reply-To: "Bob Amstadt" From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <003301c80983$0b2d8f00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <037e01c809b7$8f99ddf0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 07:44:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <5ZDquD.A.c1G.jckCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:05:07 +0000 (UTC) I select Henry Kaiser in the center square to block. ;-) Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 7:28 AM Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE > Almost like this? > > http://www.y2kloopfest.com/Bio-Photos.html > > Kris > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 15:09:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 909933BEE6; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:09:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer:sender; bh=T0WCPRyPq1J5kYdd66hHHmzC5z/mrqnjH5P9rHUPrqs=; b=IS8CtJa1Tdlw4I3kh3G0sshdHz7rUqrnFs29eUy4YY1ZP68IJIIP7gv6RNIZTY+OvvuiTXmQXAkDPWF30ZneFKdIW0yIeBQtda/f4g+DlpefF7YqPFjlZWB7Fosntzf8IOJeQLY01oh73CvdSdeNpPnrS7T/NC9PPPhyn/zwblc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer:sender; b=cCyQxGixjVPDtrAxo8VqEjX8JVNynR4gEfHv1dRyAZCqk8nrP3Zci6DjQSMhfZPGgy82ijQHj4lvUJJ9PcCg2cKfh/s0Zf3OikRMWtVi3U7L1BYH0suFzqT7vBlEQR20dAHmySnn/zMXrEEh6vuTNRXjWuBimvZSFTLmzndkLAA= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <830MhPtJlly3.YvBhrlmJ@smtp.tre.biz> <033c01c809b5$5f4b4c80$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3041164E-4760-4F17-AF3E-BEEFC4F37974@boysen.se> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: FCB "Direct Select" ? (was: Posting my looping rig's specification s) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:08:57 +0200 To: Loopers X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Sender: Per Boysen Resent-Message-ID: <6EocHB.A.y-G.ZgkCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:09:13 +0000 (UTC) > On 8 okt 2007, at 16.25, Travis Hartnett wrote: >> I'd be interested in seeing pictures of how everyone's labeled >> their FCB > On 8 okt 2007, at 17.03, Per Boysen wrote: > I'm not labeling mine, but I use a system that is easy to remember. > Here's a schematic of that system: > http://www.looproom.com/mobius/FCB_banks2007pboy.pdf Whops... I forgot to tell about bank 8 and 9 that is not part of that "looper function" chart. Those two banks are only used to call up 16 presets of alternative effect chains, ie the sound I play with into the looper. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 15:21:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D7AEC3BEF1; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:21:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: eterogeneo Reply-To: eterogeneo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FCB "Direct Select" ? (was: Posting my looping rig's specifica tion s) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:20:28 +0200 Message-ID: <5pp9dXD5z73z.wCJvlT2V@smtp.tre.biz> X-Mailer: EPOC e-mail Versione 2.10 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:21:56 +0000 (UTC) Per, what can you say about the functions on your bank 3 - hit minor/major/sus4 presets ? It sounds interesting but i cannot understand what you're doing. fabio www.eterogeneo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 15:25:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 676023BEF7; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:25:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <61854.167.83.10.20.1191857094.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:24:54 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Boomerang From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32166 32167] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:25:01 +0000 (UTC) End of '07 is what I heard. IT's not my business so I can't really say, but the RANG III is delayed already from release earlier this year because of the Delay pedal. Not sure why when the bread and butter of the company was the Rang Plus, a great unit for stage that had a few minor probs, they should choose to de-focus themselves from making a kick rear third generation product to provide a chorus delay (that looks cool but really, why the lack of focus?) Also, I'm concerned about the ergonomics of the pdeal. The pic and dims of the current E-155 are equal to the dims of the Rang III. This means the buttons are about 1.25 inches wide and a little over 1.75 inches between them. That seems terribly unforgiving for a pedal that's supposed to be for stage use. Plish > > In a message dated 10/8/07 12:22:02 AM, tomson.sowonja@cba.com.au writes: > > >> Boomerang 3 >> > > tom.....mike nelson sent me some paper to pass out at y2k7 about the RANG > III > and the CHORUS*DELAY PEDAL (E-155).....it said something like an end of > year > DEC 07 RANG release, but you know how those predictions work out, the > (E-155) max delay 2 seconds, is shipping now.....a small blurb on the RANG > III used > the "M" word, "the initial release may not have MIDI, but it will be added > as > quickly as possible and upgrading is possible via the internet. THERE will > be > no USB connectivity nor permanet loop storage.".....i'm just a friendly > messanger and know nothing about nothing.....:).....i do know that i > really want to > get my hands on that puppy.....mike nelson and company are burried with > the > release of the CHORUS*DELAY PEDAL so i would suggest being patient about > the > RANG for now.....i told him he had better pick up the pace, or > else!.....:).....michael > > > > > "Who needs a six pac when ya got a keg!".....scoots galore "THOUGHTS ON > EXCERCISE" > > www.ct-collective.com > http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 > > > > > ************************************** > See what's new at http://www.aol.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 15:25:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE5C13BEFA; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:25:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: Subject: RE: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE, (Flickr group) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:25:00 +0200 Message-ID: <007701c809bf$646763c0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcgJvl7CGiPnNTreQ8KnTcKDOQV04AAAMB7w Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:25:03 +0000 (UTC) > I created a Flickr group this morning to get this started.=20 thank you!=20 there is also a flickr group with photos of the 2005 Z=FCrich = loopfestival, many of us were there http://www.flickr.com/groups/13509629@N00/pool/ and here's an annotated group photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/11242995@N00/67089274 -MichaelPeters From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 15:33:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3EED83BED8; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 439 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:32:49 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=+78RDcncNVyFhm8OAWZDGqyntTN7kIDcDGPBbAc5xbI=; b=ubGTY6txGFQ3Y3dn3mc/92yZF51uiODN4yQxAjIFOyJ1xeDji6hEpcrv5ZQmocaiFuDN3lYkHF/UQbimE1b0h/hilhCCHntmLYquDFmdP7PrAbdYwNxie2UvULMWj4QhcbIUqOgD0Z5UZy3mUweBxHew1lJbNlGUbBnLHXyyBeY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=parr48jnvzN0hngrPBKv6QcR0zATGBGdMVvDTelwfLMjRSEo2zNEHuP6KZzsHEBQPCuy06xQYipyOl9VAnr0xpcpGoqj0jyFE6RZcbYnhekVWFmRvtAK2TPxGanLwSh/uYdRhHQLnFDOHrbxykQ3SsmMDgq5rCfKZrKINEqKKAQ= Message-ID: <4759e5740710080825m610db4cbu434e5a05f77eb4ec@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:25:29 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_25936_21011935.1191857129793" References: <003301c80983$0b2d8f00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <004a01c809a5$fff7e8b0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:33:00 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_25936_21011935.1191857129793 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'd favor Facebook AND Flickr, though Krispen's page ultimately takes care of festival now, doesn't it. and it IS nice to see everyone... again. t. On 10/8/07, Per Boysen wrote: > > >> Could we put a page up or ten up at the website that has photos > >> next to > > all the people who are here at the site? > > On 8 okt 2007, at 14.23, Michael Peters wrote: > > good idea. > > > > Some of us are active in the Chain-Tape Collective, and have posted > > a photo. > > http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=members > > One idea could be to use www.facebook.com. We could have a LD Group > there to upload pictures. Actually, each group member's own picture > will automatically upload to the Loopist Group's "members index". > When I received a facebook invitation from UK loopist Steve Lawson I > thought it was "just another tribe thing" but half a year later the > facebook network exploded. With facebook you can set your own pref's > to block out adds and stuff that you find distracting. Something that > is not possible on for example MySpace. Many people talk about all > the "games" at facebook and how stupid that is, but you do not have > to install all those add-ons; you can simply use it as a super easy > communication window with built-in photo album. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > > -- http://www.toddreynolds.com |: http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic |: ------------------------------------------------------|: 917.576.6166 todd@toddreynolds.com toddreyn@gmail.com ------=_Part_25936_21011935.1191857129793 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'd favor Facebook AND Flickr, though Krispen's page ultimately takes care of festival now, doesn't it.  

and it IS nice to see everyone...  again.

t.



On 10/8/07, Per Boysen < perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Could we put a page up or ten up at the website that has photos
>> next to
> all the people who are here at the site?

On 8 okt 2007, at 14.23, Michael Peters wrote:
> good idea.
>
> Some of us are active in the Chain-Tape Collective, and have posted
> a photo.
> http://www.ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=members

One idea could be to use www.facebook.com. We could have a LD Group
there to upload pictures. Actually, each group member's own picture
will automatically upload to the Loopist Group's "members index".
When I received a facebook invitation from UK loopist Steve Lawson I
thought it was "just another tribe thing" but half a year later the
facebook network exploded. With facebook you can set your own pref's
to block out adds and stuff that you find distracting. Something that
is not possible on for example MySpace. Many people talk about all
the "games" at facebook and how stupid that is, but you do not have
to install all those add-ons; you can simply use it as a super easy
communication window with built-in photo album.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)







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------=_Part_25936_21011935.1191857129793-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 15:59:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABF1B3BED3; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3465 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 15:59:59 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=gOXmWdJ64NOYugBhMtKJ2inwH/PdpuO647F4KcZTSWo=; b=KqFv8peBoHeRYPjE/tmh/diWSmaTyt0C5N8Tb4LqBse4NC16pkMgmbQHIcMc558ZKO1khwP1Ka4Ew8McOdvx7etKE9XxDm9Z+OCzvTMH/EM+QJomKAbfFSc9TD25BWTto+sDW3zpIvHs1h89nKisxJcr0olaO/2a3vAvksl8E9s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=rrI1iTmn2KOXrgT9BHcxqpULycehodxPH4BwxQOmdNokHdEHKpAijRyD3ZQbaJEpWpWx5Ij/GPSypm4UwzXfzy7LAbjLFgo9eAqzR6Es50VlEGZlLjBk302bUTwK44O2mOpndUTe4IRKEUoJTT4CuMOu5CykYc2EWZA3ROesMYQ= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:02:13 +0100 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Augustas Loop Question In-Reply-To: <100820071436.14732.470A4071000E946D0000398C2215593414020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <100820071436.14732.470A4071000E946D0000398C2215593414020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6f8d76a903415c91 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:59:59 +0000 (UTC) Basically "what Per said" - I think he knows Augustus better than I do now, and I wrote it! You can overdub. It's really not designed as an EDP-style looper - it takes a different design philosophy, which means it can't do some EDP things, but then again it can do a lot that an EDP can't. cheers, os. On 08/10/2007, midifriedchicken@comcast.net wrote: > > I am currently using Sooperlooper (Mac) as my software looper, but I > continue to get clicks and pops. This is not a CPU issue. I dowloaded the > Augustus Looper and it seems to sound very good with no pops. > The controls are confusing, but does anybody use Aug Loop as a live looper? > How is its control layout? Can you overdub? Does it resemble the EDP > paradigm at all? > Thanks > MFC -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.collective.co.uk/ http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 16:41:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7801E3BED3; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:41:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE, (Flickr group) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:42:07 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <002101c809ca$2a577e80$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcgJt1Fvj7GeQCj0QQS0+WvcXffh5QAEr8wQ X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD10+29g0l2Ibru6Q== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:41:43 +0000 (UTC) A few more are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/moinsound/with/278987224/ > I created a Flickr group this morning to get this started. If > you are on Flickr, add yourself to the "LoopersDelightLoopers Now for the moment, I try to understand why I need a yahoo account to access flickr...:-( Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 16:51:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77A6D3BED5; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:51:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=RjF1M1WMJmPLlZEq4ba0+mCjs01jaPjRTMXz0SaOspI=; b=eCdd7Lwg9ErJLswzAitpa9jNHDlMqRujmU73W7MsQg6GWhC+EPAGq6eAZDGNIGB61r63EDHN7i7W71/Bf+mqtLazwCiayohhqq+jdBSAHnOHD4f8g0oKPO80SPAxv3v0+CrvDdZvmyZbDOKgrQU/UKplHsDS0Wb4j/z66Y8iQwM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Tm3cdsJOZAOliAnp52ou4RCs2Y9LPduPuSyVj4QYWtJ742L1cDMmaCRapVsX8HrTqyVEbFXULwOPP0wBXs2MCxfjMeG30I4fR+ayP6ECW4mrRvKpZHBji+BsuoHAiFLYI8gLsduos7330u9mSUbJ6aBd7y8nl5h0WkEgR3AgPgY= Message-ID: <4759e5740710080951n191dce9et696427e3ad8e0e87@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:51:49 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE, (Flickr group) In-Reply-To: <002101c809ca$2a577e80$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_26289_10443552.1191862309863" References: <002101c809ca$2a577e80$1001a8c0@succubus> Resent-Message-ID: <0pMGu.A.r-B.pAmCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:51:53 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_26289_10443552.1191862309863 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline cuz they sort of combined everything awhile back. it's a pain, but, in the end, pretty painless... Todd On 10/8/07, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > > A few more are here: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/moinsound/with/278987224/ > > > I created a Flickr group this morning to get this started. If > > you are on Flickr, add yourself to the "LoopersDelightLoopers > > Now for the moment, I try to understand why I need a yahoo account to > access > flickr...:-( > > Rainer > > -- http://www.toddreynolds.com |: http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic |: ------------------------------------------------------|: 917.576.6166 todd@toddreynolds.com toddreyn@gmail.com ------=_Part_26289_10443552.1191862309863 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline cuz they sort of combined everything awhile back.  it's a pain, but, in the end, pretty painless...

Todd

On 10/8/07, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill <rs@moinlabs.de> wrote:
A few more are here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/moinsound/with/278987224/

> I created a Flickr group this morning to get this started. If
> you are on Flickr, add yourself to the "LoopersDelightLoopers

Now for the moment, I try to understand why I need a yahoo account to access
flickr...:-(

        Rainer




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------=_Part_26289_10443552.1191862309863-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 16:59:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FB273BECF; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:59:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:01:34 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #549 for October 4, 2007 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <470A626E.9010401@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:59:50 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/071004.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #549 October 4, 2007 RECAP: On this show, I started a month-long focus on Origo Sound. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Communion" by Current. Origo Sound: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#oct PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Divine Sound Farewell and Order of Love (Blue Water) Forgiveness Lena Alchemy of Fingers Alchemy of Fingers and Dark and Dark (Hypnos Secret Sounds) Current O.C.T.7 Enter the Dream (Origo Sound) Current Mere Objects Enter the Dream (Origo Sound) O Yuki Conjugate Noise Flaw The Euphoria of Disobedience Galactic Anthems Europa Mission Subterranean Transit (none) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Current Communion - Before Communion (Origo Sound) Reality Current Ghost Trip Communion (Origo Sound) Current Crossfield Communion (Origo Sound) Current Plaza Circular Communion (Origo Sound) Current No Sign of Life Communion (Origo Sound) Current Sunday Sunburn Communion (Origo Sound) Current Sign/Alien Communion (Origo Sound) Current Communion - Mode Communion (Origo Sound) Selector Current Sign/Human Communion (Origo Sound) Current Minor Abstraction Communion (Origo Sound) Current Patterns Communion (Origo Sound) Current Autovia Communion (Origo Sound) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Origo Sound. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Exploring the Water Element" by Living Dreamtime. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site - http://galactictravels.info RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 17:00:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E44313BED9; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:00:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <03f501c809cc$6074e0f0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <002101c809ca$2a577e80$1001a8c0@succubus> Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE, (Flickr group) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:57:56 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:00:30 +0000 (UTC) I'm not sure this meets Rick's original request. From this page you still can't see who the actual person is...all we have is obscure user names. It's doesn't help me understand who I'm getting LD posts from. I'm not sure about anyone else, but a page that has real pictures of people (not artistic interpretations where you can't tell if it is a human being or not), with their real names and their LD pseudonyms. Kris >A few more are here: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/moinsound/with/278987224/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 17:20:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44DE33BEDB; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:20:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <006201c809cf$8dd054a0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE, (Flickr group) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:20:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:20:22 +0000 (UTC) I went and joined but can't seem to figure out how to add photos to the group pool. Am I missing something very obvious? yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 17:25:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 888C13BECD; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 413 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:25:50 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=vBV84FIJP8X2jYFdii9E71pWBM1sb6BzsAeXV7ivjU4=; b=KO9VRpa0iXbsIhh/4Z5uoPU7VlhHfr3HH4+uSOBzd7Ku4O2Owx8hSIPsZmTstZWiulz/SAQXF9qgq0CIxIFzF10M2cNOY+dhMt/IKsTseDqaQlOeBmFFcvojj1pXBjXxOex6w8o7sCn8fV9Si2KKXN6HQzYC7tt4Us4jjnvQbF8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=BG5XWWAglerBFXNXYRKrnvnliM3xhhp3t7NustZdR33YuqUyGz7tdBFNY41NiYnv7KbO1AwrRiepn0wDVNAADR7TKfjf4KeBBMO+vGaPdgK7k3L0tWVHXPeNXLssk7X0DL1dbHtYJFpOODJbMWqzO2j6pUBmC6B14MLL0cEjQFw= Message-ID: <9e0440a60710081018y3ded0b26gb030ac3b84e2c867@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:18:54 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE, (Flickr group) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_370_22632025.1191863934876" References: <003301c80983$0b2d8f00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:25:50 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_370_22632025.1191863934876 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Steve I joined and added my photo but how do I add to the Group Pool? thx jim On 10/8/07, burnett@pobox.com wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Rick Walker wrote: > ------=_Part_370_22632025.1191863934876 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Steve I joined and added my photo but how do I add to the Group Pool?
 
thx
 
jim

 
On 10/8/07, burnett@pobox.com <burnett@pobox.com> wrote:
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Rick Walker wrote:
------=_Part_370_22632025.1191863934876-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 17:26:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD0A63BED8; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:26:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=QTKmPzvKi2k3B4qF+RHDNN+Z3VUlZjYGZxQPBvgP9X4=; b=nJNECIh7LhiqFgLZDNmKpojzOjp4LzpX79xhS9lPHINRe7+05WFcwOnZtVRN9QfmT9v+HD+tRJKZSDw4k7vdx8bheRFbi7Pv3TBTMqw+RbML0owXwoFMVwb0Z0+Wg1KLZV5VFfAE9vIDbNi70pBi/jJ5yMTp7yXBEAyZfqGPJyo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=SpO1c4FyX/zl4grS7PPb7RCqOwNw/DcUVn9xNQYs9YoNae02Z+PSLt6CtxQJ7xS41LosCUGfNn23s22bEffW9+1Jd+4dMFCvaRlLLiT0HOGcWKB5KrZHVYjm7/6/uXUm2tzDf+pYN1gWNYSV5d2wX6Ro45qDTtl9BIwlXdWaIXQ= Message-ID: <4759e5740710081026n26fc0962t39c98d4cea173d5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:26:58 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE, (Flickr group) In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60710081018y3ded0b26gb030ac3b84e2c867@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_26390_12090400.1191864418633" References: <003301c80983$0b2d8f00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <9e0440a60710081018y3ded0b26gb030ac3b84e2c867@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:26:59 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_26390_12090400.1191864418633 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline up to the left of an individual pic there is a button which says 'add to group'. if you've joine the group, it will add it directly. t. On 10/8/07, Jim Goodin wrote: > > Steve I joined and added my photo but how do I add to the Group Pool? > > thx > > jim > > > ------=_Part_26390_12090400.1191864418633 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline up to the left of an individual pic there is a button which says 'add to group'.  if you've joine the group, it will add it directly.

t.


On 10/8/07, Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
Steve I joined and added my photo but how do I add to the Group Pool?
 
thx
 
jim

 

 

 
------=_Part_26390_12090400.1191864418633-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 17:27:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22DED3BECD; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:27:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:26:06 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for October 6, 2007 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <470A682E.5090405@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:27:59 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2007/071006.html The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #118 October 6, 2007. Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [AWM & Adrian] Beyond the Canyons E-dition #15 (Groove) VA [Ian Boddy] Stormfront E-dition #15 (Groove) VA [Food for Fantasy]The Spirit of FreedomE-dition #15 (Groove) Current Spring Feather Enter the Dream (Origo Sound) Rudy Adrian Starfields 2 Part 1 Par Avion (Groove) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Abandoned Toys Within a Lilac The Witch's Garden (Mythical) Clutch Lynne & Tortorelli Invocation Love & Peace (New Earth) Llewellyn Poltergeist An Audience of Angels (Paradise Music) David Davidson Myst on the Glen Celtic Fantasy (Green Hill) Kitaro Into the Forest Sacred Journey of KuKai Vol 3 (Domo) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Mystery The Awakening Beneath the Veil of Winter's Face (Unicorn Digital) Mystery The Preacher's Fall Beneath the Veil of Winter's Face (Unicorn Digital) Freak Zoid Beneath Candy Store Freak Zoid (Uniblab) Politics Freak Zoid Anvil Purse Freak Zoid (Uniblab) Shadow Circus Radio People Welcome To the Freakroom (Progrock) Marillion Neverland Marbles (Intact) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) I return to the AM/FM Show on October 27. On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDs that come with each issue of E-dition electronic music magazine. Bill ====================================================================== Host of the AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT (GMT-4:00). Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from "Beyond the Barriers." Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Web Site - http://soundscapes.us/amfm Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml ====================================================================== The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to post playlists or track airplay? The progdj list solves that problem. The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. There is NO SPAM because I keep the spammers out before the members ever see any hint of it. The progdj list is for DJs (obviously!) and band members, record label personnel, promoters, managers, and anyone else interested in seeing what gets played on the air. Need to find who is playing prog on the radio? Go to the progdj list. To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 17:29:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7457E3BED9; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:29:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=3RmC8xkLwhiSYnEwBTBHBwxGhn9KfQGyk1QJOxC0MVY=; b=l6QAeKJlu6dxYOz6Hx4SMJOZn57uAicPU0vaFFrwdwQIRNVWhbpiJUHkNyXX1bsZQsk7ZniXTuAisvY9NRn3MRMareaOvY5ji8fOCzK7Y2HURrCNZprSO9I5CBlW1BVJ7j78eX38ku1TtFFWJcsWEzuZADsRmDY4RPvUPlusJJI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=XZZuHI94aVaFVPRyCTdNOevkWMhsjzqq3LTP3sFSQvgA94K3/Rslh1WELXtcJme6zSVOzPWO0jFnUznQW+6DVC8UC8iDIfokujhry8cNm4ayC5icdrcFGhRn2svP1FcjF3MAmxeVc/Ikgkjb2eeHtTIYDmnUWQm9PA8EAWchcNo= Message-ID: <4759e5740710081022r7a3c1391x4f50f91c42827a6d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:22:49 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE, (Flickr group) In-Reply-To: <006201c809cf$8dd054a0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_26377_23089910.1191864169268" References: <006201c809cf$8dd054a0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:29:26 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_26377_23089910.1191864169268 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline yes... select any photo of your own... then there is a button on the top left of the photo "add to group" click that and it will allow you to add it to the group directly. all best, todd On 10/8/07, Rick Walker wrote: > > I went and joined but can't seem to figure out how to add photos to the > group pool. > > Am I missing something very obvious? > > yours, Rick Walker > > -- http://www.toddreynolds.com |: http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic |: ------------------------------------------------------|: 917.576.6166 todd@toddreynolds.com toddreyn@gmail.com ------=_Part_26377_23089910.1191864169268 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline yes... 

select any photo of your own... 

then there is a button on the top left of the photo "add to group"

click that and it will allow you to add it to the group directly.

all best,

todd



On 10/8/07, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com > wrote:
I went and joined but can't seem to figure out how to add photos to the
group pool.

Am I missing something very obvious?

yours,  Rick Walker




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------=_Part_26377_23089910.1191864169268-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 17:32:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 451153BEE1; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:32:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 71382 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:32:54 UTC Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 10:32:53 -0700 From: Niall Munnelly To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Repeater OS2.10b4 Details Message-ID: <20071008173252.GA13512@zim.dreamhost.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:32:55 +0000 (UTC) This isn't actually a "2.4" release, which was why I thought it didn't install correctly on my Repeater. Electrix replied to me with this PDF, and I'll host it on my site for those who want to know what it does. Since it contains emails, I don't want to send it to a public, archived list. Feel free to email me {or Electrix} for a copy of the PDF. -- Yours, Niall. .. . . . . . . . . . Aleph Null. A Simple Insinuation Around Silence. http://aleph-null.net .. .. gpg public key - http://aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. .. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 17:35:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C555B3BEDE; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:35:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=AenyripEg8Ui2Ug69Lm79zEaH+u/ionLgVNCV+xpcaQ=; b=qnpw9qdSxPMSP9HlTW7Cm2+NSbvbHyQwZiUKbM8Kiv1o+nN9GvO0m6+EbuB0+YHatXhKVeQTEzNbKUoVEUAEJzeBhz1RfhHF43HhdmdUUUBH/E3IBvfxOq/TlIH+kikaX1cALqgCJwp8nm68vSbvV5mjp7S7ZFlsaY3U+ARz4EI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=mK6Wx7IjcM8IHhugdO5kIqhKYOB68FTEZzznLMXxhYOcEM3+h1pxGw/Gdk7UTbdix2F6mGv7u39otd1Ni0DHw1LrWn0mBkdNJdrlzBNDKEJLuYek8EpS/KhOdxeww3veYLxxc1nc5e5dtEQO+W0T0Qj9eOI9HKSBe6fx7Y3f9Gc= Message-ID: <4759e5740710081025n3a59c76ex9b5fea51bd7c4da9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:25:33 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE, (Flickr group) In-Reply-To: <03f501c809cc$6074e0f0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_26386_2742472.1191864333761" References: <002101c809ca$2a577e80$1001a8c0@succubus> <03f501c809cc$6074e0f0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:35:35 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_26386_2742472.1191864333761 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I've changed my descriptions and put notes on my photos (from within flickr itself.) please let me know if it 's not clear, we can find a way to retag or relabel so that it's perfectly clear. all best, todd On 10/8/07, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > I'm not sure this meets Rick's original request. From this page you still > can't see who the actual person is...all we have is obscure user names. > It's > doesn't help me understand who I'm getting LD posts from. I'm not sure > about > anyone else, but a page that has real pictures of people (not artistic > interpretations where you can't tell if it is a human being or not), with > their real names and their LD pseudonyms. > > Kris > > > >A few more are here: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/moinsound/with/278987224/ > > -- http://www.toddreynolds.com |: http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic |: ------------------------------------------------------|: 917.576.6166 todd@toddreynolds.com toddreyn@gmail.com ------=_Part_26386_2742472.1191864333761 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I've changed my descriptions and put notes on my photos (from within flickr itself.)  please let me know if it 's not clear, we can find a way to retag or relabel so that it's perfectly clear.

all best,

todd



On 10/8/07, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
I'm not sure this meets Rick's original request. From this page you still
can't see who the actual person is...all we have is obscure user names. It's
doesn't help me understand who I'm getting LD posts from. I'm not sure about
anyone else, but a page that has real pictures of people (not artistic
interpretations where you can't tell if it is a human being or not), with
their real names and their LD pseudonyms.

Kris


>A few more are here:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/moinsound/with/278987224/




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------=_Part_26386_2742472.1191864333761-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 17:41:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D897A3BEE4; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:41:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <043001c809d1$d9727170$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, boisemusicians@yahoogroups.com Subject: The Virtual 2nd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:37:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:41:54 +0000 (UTC) It's here...the virtual 2nd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival (2007). Videos and sound files of all the performormances are now here: http://www.boisemusicians.com/BEMF-2/sound.htm Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 17:45:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8EAF3BEE6; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:45:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <03f501c809cc$6074e0f0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <002101c809ca$2a577e80$1001a8c0@succubus> <03f501c809cc$6074e0f0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:45:06 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE, (Flickr group) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:45:27 +0000 (UTC) At 10:57 AM -0600 10/8/07, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >(not artistic interpretations where you can't tell if it is a human >being or not) Hey! I resemble that comment! (yeah, yeah, yeah. i'm looking for a real snappie to upload; like one where you can actually see my face. i just figured the bio page was more promotional than informational. ;) --m. -- _____ "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 17:57:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E1493BEEA; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:57:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Ninja-PIM: Scanned by Ninja X-Ninja-AttachmentFiltering: (no action) Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE, (Flickr group) MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:57:31 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BAA4@keel.sailpoint.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 In-Reply-To: Thread-Topic: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE, (Flickr group) thread-index: AcgJ0wUCpyjUcJHTQKOiH+p5/91w/AAAMybg References: <002101c809ca$2a577e80$1001a8c0@succubus> <03f501c809cc$6074e0f0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Jeff Larson" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:57:34 +0000 (UTC) I prefer to remain an enigma. But if you must have a visual, picture a cross between a young Antonio Banderas and Lance Armstrong. That'd be about it. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 17:59:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E31A03BECF; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:59:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 14:00:38 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: [Gig Spam]Different Skies To: Loopers Delight Mailing List Cc: Different Skies Message-id: <470A7046.2070809@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:59:19 +0000 (UTC) Greetings, I will be unsubbing from the list for a while to attend Different Skies. http://differentskies.com Different Skies is an electronic space music festival, a workshop for artists in these and related experimental music genres, a working vacation, an intensive and rewarding creative environment, and many more things. It's a community of artists from around the world. We're back again for an encore, with artists old and new, a new palette of ideas, and a lot of energy and drive to create beauty for you. We plan to have a lot of fun and we hope you do, too. We'll see you in the Amphitheatre at Arcosanti, Arizona or on-line at http://stillstream.com which will also be carrying our nightly "All Star Jams" with warts and all. This all starts Monday, October 15 and culminates with a concert the following Saturday. I will not be around to remind you so please save this notice. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 18:05:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C70D3BECA; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:05:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) References: <20071008163503.29989642@ikmultimedia.com> X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-958730414 Message-Id: From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: Fwd: SampleMoog Now Shipping - the Moog Synth Anthology VI Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:06:51 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:05:14 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-958730414 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Thought this may be of interest to the laptop loopers ...... 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<= /HTML>= --Apple-Mail-1-958730414-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 18:20:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82ED23BEC1; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:20:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <04c201c809d7$d91e9d60$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE, (Flickr group) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:20:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:20:06 +0000 (UTC) I think the page will work well, if we get the names on the photos. I realized Andy posted my picture andn some others, but I don't think I can edit the title of my own. Steve - do you have write priveleeges to be able to add names to the pictures? I like the fact that all the photos are there in one spot, but do recognize everyone by their picture and know who it is? Am I missing something on how to find this info? Kris > I'm not sure this meets Rick's original request. From this page you still > can't see who the actual person is...all we have is obscure user names. > It's doesn't help me understand who I'm getting LD posts from. I'm not > sure about anyone else, but a page that has real pictures of people (not > artistic interpretations where you can't tell if it is a human being or > not), with their real names and their LD pseudonyms. > > Kris > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 18:20:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3129E3BED2; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:20:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 620930289-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.169.176 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj0KACcSCkdPQqmw/2dsb2JhbACCKKEv Message-ID: <470A7513.6060809@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:21:07 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE, (Flickr group) References: <002101c809ca$2a577e80$1001a8c0@succubus> <03f501c809cc$6074e0f0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <03f501c809cc$6074e0f0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:20:53 +0000 (UTC) Krispen Hartung wrote: > I'm not sure this meets Rick's original request. From this page you > still can't see who the actual person is...all we have is obscure user > names. It's doesn't help me understand who I'm getting LD posts from. no, and I couldn't find a way round it. I titled the photos I added to the group with their names, but you can't see the name till you click the pic. andy that is a good one of you though (by Bernhard Wagner with my camera) > I'm not sure about anyone else, but a page that has real pictures of > people (not artistic interpretations where you can't tell if it is a > human being or not), with their real names and their LD pseudonyms. > > Kris > > >> A few more are here: >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/moinsound/with/278987224/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 18:22:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 886913BEC1; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:22:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20071008142155.920AF.299247.root@fepweb01> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 11:21:54 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The Virtual 2nd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival Cc: Krispen Hartung In-Reply-To: <043001c809d1$d9727170$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: <2zaZzC.A.TeG.IVnCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:22:00 +0000 (UTC) Yep, I just noticed (with some amusement) that my vid was posted on YouTube the = other day. Many thanks for a fine event. Hope it contines. It's one of the best of it's kind. tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?p= layListId=3D6378076=20 Also check out the BEMF 1 CDs at: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimenta= l/cd.htm http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 http://www.guitarplayer.com/story.asp?storyCode=3D18131 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ---- Krispen Hartung wrote:=20 > It's here...the virtual 2nd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival (200= 7).=20 > Videos and sound files of all the performormances are now here: >=20 > http://www.boisemusicians.com/BEMF-2/sound.htm >=20 > Kris >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 18:34:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F36E93BECA; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:34:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 614707688-mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.169.176 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj0KAPwUCkdPQqmw/2dsb2JhbACCKKFF Message-ID: <470A783D.1070408@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 19:34:37 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE, (Flickr group) References: <006201c809cf$8dd054a0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> In-Reply-To: <006201c809cf$8dd054a0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:34:22 +0000 (UTC) Well, it's not obvious, but you have to first upload the photos to your own Profile. >From the top menu select You>>>Upload photos then use "organise" to put them in the group. andy ps I uploaded photos of Rick, Kris, Matthias, Bill Walker. I guess I'm the only one who can edit/delete these, so drop me a line, or put a comment if changes needed. Rick Walker wrote: > I went and joined but can't seem to figure out how to add photos to the > group pool. > > Am I missing something very obvious? > > yours, Rick Walker > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 19:02:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8346B3BEC5; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:02:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <002101c809ca$2a577e80$1001a8c0@succubus> <03f501c809cc$6074e0f0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:01:47 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE, (Flickr group) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:02:10 +0000 (UTC) At 12:45 PM -0500 10/8/07, Mech wrote: > >i'm looking for a real snappie to upload; like one where you can >actually see my face.... Okay, got something up there finally. And you can almost make out what I look like if you look through the hair. <*duckflee*> --m. -- _____ "I want to keep you alive so there is always the possibility of murder... later" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 19:07:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 851973BEC7; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:07:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20071008150726.NRDZH.301927.root@fepweb01> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 12:07:25 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE Cc: Krispen Hartung In-Reply-To: <04c201c809d7$d91e9d60$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: <-o8fCD.A.YP.u_nCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:07:26 +0000 (UTC) Ya know, some of us aren't entirely comfortable with how we "look." I tend to think of myself as better "heard" and not "seen." However, since I was just writing to Krispen about it anyway, the fact that= some of these "fests' get videoed is probably as good a way of "seeing who= we are" as anything (as embarrassing as that may be for me personally, at = least). Just a suggestion. tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?p= layListId=3D6378076=20 Also check out the BEMF 1 CDs at: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimenta= l/cd.htm http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 http://www.guitarplayer.com/story.asp?storyCode=3D18131 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 19:21:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F6C03BEDA; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <05fd01c809df$a2926800$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <002101c809ca$2a577e80$1001a8c0@succubus> <03f501c809cc$6074e0f0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE, (Flickr group) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 13:15:47 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <1dmD6.A.L4.JNoCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:21:45 +0000 (UTC) I'm guilty too. The picture I typcally use is some weird image of my head, in negative image...I look like some alien. Kris > At 10:57 AM -0600 10/8/07, Krispen Hartung wrote: >> >>(not artistic interpretations where you can't tell if it is a human being >>or not) > > Hey! I resemble that comment! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 20:37:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A9F03BED2; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 20:37:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=8HjpIXJKf910XhYAm8+vXehfbcqOrYQKMJ883QzLrLI=; b=MWgOhB1Z5vOA36CKRMAj8ndwcKxETQMMwW5xqoUBSlZ1eh32mCizncU3krZ4GXi0SdeJMVYzeOp3pE1ZAio1J31gB7X3riErpflpDkqKTwK9+Sh3gu44cA6CBtnUJdLHDnhf1/tCqMrw2rwE2e6QuYPxt6tVaOLWn+mzNTIyduU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=dVJnSGEe3ZEAYEeuUA6JO7FchDWjjAlRh0xgSVK8PFx3/OjFCxz8ik2XKXqvtnRS5j2eZAYgFhfhCAsAqJrXKb94/ThstDGkkoDlI9gyYbjtXrX+jAwQE/jwo/+fsfdyCTYuFz44u0lLQiIxlJVYfKAcMnGVePMM05kzMp97RsA= In-Reply-To: <20071008150726.NRDZH.301927.root@fepweb01> References: <20071008150726.NRDZH.301927.root@fepweb01> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <9EF01AED-B1A4-4D32-BFAF-F7002A6D1632@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:36:51 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 20:37:00 +0000 (UTC) On 8 okt 2007, at 21.07, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: > I tend to think of myself as better "heard" and not "seen." You're in good company... thinking of the Residents ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 20:53:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 601E23BEC7; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 20:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <068a01c809ed$50466930$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <04c201c809d7$d91e9d60$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE, (Flickr group) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:53:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 20:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, Steve. I think the easiest solution for all of us is to just change the screen name? That's what I did, so that you see my name below the picture. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 21:02:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86A6D3BEC7; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:02:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=lbG9Yv11TFBb81bgRniuZdXd9WtCfyM1orcU2EpXNPo=; b=M/QFiXnyYroY7+YTGzlVWaBS0cQ7S/vO2Q3F4HvMSXNqmi84Nc5FZGzI3AyqNGlfvEwYDpLqHw5rBeaWRrhYM29daTGyEDdnnC+OZ07gGmU85IS0edhdNLFaSl5+tOjIke1WYx4hElDnov6bQGPJj8L9okCBDbXk/3BOm68hKME= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=JCVD0jCNuf3Pf2t4Jh8mH9kefU33TaAzUj/uJj/bC191SzGubpcDLOnzaXf44rP0cQAP8v8ugNwmk5hd0eFjwBgNLX/IRc6CwCIumR/FYtJm1e6qn3G/s5bwQL1wkQOa/AHDAVESH64cZLU9tJdC4vaOlF8padlzE6uUFt57y6Q= In-Reply-To: <068a01c809ed$50466930$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <04c201c809d7$d91e9d60$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <068a01c809ed$50466930$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2D1F0F25-9B40-4F46-BB45-50F77280E927@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE, (Flickr group) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 23:02:42 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <3taCkD.A.AnE.7rpCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:02:52 +0000 (UTC) I uploaded a two year old photo and then changed my mind because I don't look the same (longer hair today). So I uploaded two fresh photos instead, but then I didn't find out how to delete the old picture from the group? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 21:24:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07E533BECD; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:24:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ZEpPUxDPES4uJ2Vdt+4LvqTVD8C/tziE5a6pzxWjg54LlMnPq2rGFlu6pq+XH68XdEHvrLCF1f/5Zj01fQDL1EqcCNe7NzWLT8KQIq9tUirD71gjAcmlU02lfY0mUcon+effclofejmRLNpBmaEia4H/O+QQscQaHbczjToVwZg=; X-YMail-OSG: LEKaLNkVM1nPvfYbWogoJDTR65IGxmnseTViVtsbrKW.8Jg9CzIOoHvZa5oq8IXMWpgAFncs_GwH3S2gaCFNvxASVLrpQhlIihZnRQUKhuWD2whGWW8yzwLV1P1nvA-- Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 14:24:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: FCB "Direct Select" ? (was: Posting my looping rig's specification s) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <870812.33053.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:24:59 +0000 (UTC) no LCD above each button but a nice and big diplay on this one: http://www.gordius.be/midi-footcontroller-lg.php in fact i am waiting to hear its reviews,looks very nice but i ma not really crazy about its height, i personally like foot controllers that sit flatter and i am not really sure how comfortable it is stepping on those switches,other than that it seems like it can do everything and it only costs 399.-eur. just about as much as the ground control pro,cheaper than the rocktron all access and more compact and functional than both. hey let us hear some reviews!! Luis --- Travis Hartnett wrote: > > If only there was a MIDI foot controller with an LCD > display above > each button...and that didn't cost $1000. > > TH > > On 10/8/07, Krispen Hartung > wrote: > > > > > > For me, my memory is so shot from over-use and > sleep deprivation, that I > > have to write everything down. My FCB is > completely labeled with each > > function on every button, three banks worth. And > my max patch has a section > > with the letters and numbers of my keyboard mapped > to similar functions. > > Kris > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! 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Angulo" Subject: Re: Eventide TimeFactor web page To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <002a01c809f1$e70b87c0$6c052052@customer3530f5> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="0-690147719-1191879912=:87258" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <891769.87258.qm@web38610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:45:14 +0000 (UTC) --0-690147719-1191879912=:87258 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Id: Content-Disposition: inline Hey thanx a lot i am waitng for it to hit the stores here as well! cheers Luis --- Ian Popperwell wrote: > BlankI've ordered my TimeFactor, should arrive by > the end of the month (in the UK) apparently. I've > found this page on the Eventide website thought it > might be of interest. > > http://www.eventidestompboxes.com/support.htm > > > > > Ian. > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC --0-690147719-1191879912=:87258-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 21:47:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C0E63BECA; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:47:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=zgfMAmhJGVoqJY7IAl0L5b7MPmexgIMmYtx8vaVFD6c=; b=YfAJtcuKJyU3VKGL4iXttYEdiaLJeLhGLP6ixmB6nCmcnJ92or8lCQignXc+8RxccO7hK1eVH0897WGCvxc7i4YTWpLn9YrvUMFi1XzotiJTXIjmyyqFlB/9tNtTvTplLDjNLlPMXz/6vcoOpc8ok63AXnSHFOd4uzUyPsu9uCk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=b8qQYQ8rMYHhkGkc83Q90TmVRXOUg+oR/eqlxb37gdGCyBsLp3JLM33NNipX4JSA9wpruIlxM8vGnbHqnX/NWsTopz0UOuf2E6BEHDd27N5hJYiItpYh/4ps5+yFzON4ie/HfJiveWidD7V2dYNyDO0pt8M02g2sT1CxvVpzj0A= Message-ID: <4759e5740710081447l32c0e8ebp1ccc853b8b9bdba@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 17:47:55 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE, (Flickr group) In-Reply-To: <2D1F0F25-9B40-4F46-BB45-50F77280E927@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_27265_9992859.1191880075948" References: <04c201c809d7$d91e9d60$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <068a01c809ed$50466930$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <2D1F0F25-9B40-4F46-BB45-50F77280E927@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <4gY7I.A.LIG.OWqCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:47:58 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_27265_9992859.1191880075948 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline there's an x right next to your pic. click on it to remove from the group. t. On 10/8/07, Per Boysen wrote: > > I uploaded a two year old photo and then changed my mind because I > don't look the same (longer hair today). So I uploaded two fresh > photos instead, but then I didn't find out how to delete the old > picture from the group? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > > -- http://www.toddreynolds.com |: http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic |: ------------------------------------------------------|: 917.576.6166 todd@toddreynolds.com toddreyn@gmail.com ------=_Part_27265_9992859.1191880075948 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline there's an x right next to your pic.   click on it to remove from the group.

t.

On 10/8/07, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
I uploaded a two year old photo and then changed my mind because I
don't look the same (longer hair today). So I uploaded two fresh
photos instead, but then I didn't find out how to delete the old
picture from the group?

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)







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------=_Part_27265_9992859.1191880075948-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 22:26:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6AC613BECD; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:26:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1993 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:26:45 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <1719A735-9646-42A3-B365-AC728D3B0880@numericable.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Scott Stroud Subject: comments on Kenaxis software? Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 23:47:04 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:26:46 +0000 (UTC) I belive this Stephan Smulovitz first posted info on his software Feb. 2006. Are there users out there who would like to comment on it now? Especially anyone using it as a live looper with a midi pedal controller? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 22:55:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4D173BED5; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:55:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <380-220071018225543875@M2W017.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: qua@oregon.com X-Originating-IP: 134.134.136.4 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "qua@oregon.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:55:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: FCB Direct Select ? (was: Posting my looping rig's specification s) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:55:47 +0000 (UTC) FYI, the folks at Gordius are discounting the price and trying to make th= e shipping to US less expensive - the echange rate of the US Dollar probabl= y isn't helping us much these days=2E Original Message: ----------------- From: L=2EA=2E Angulo labaloops@yahoo=2Ecom no LCD above each button but a nice and big diplay on this one: http://www=2Egordius=2Ebe/midi-footcontroller-lg=2Ephp -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web=2Ecom - Microsoft=AE Exchange solutions from a leading provider -= http://link=2Email2web=2Ecom/Business/Exchange From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 23:13:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E70523BED5; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 23:13:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <380-220071018231340398@M2W024.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: qua@oregon.com X-Originating-IP: 134.134.136.4 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "qua@oregon.com" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:13:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: semi OT: anyone using NI Kore ? Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 23:13:42 +0000 (UTC) I'm curious if anyone has tried / use NI Kore controller =3F if so, wha= t do you like/dislike=3F -Qua -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web=2Ecom =96 Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Micro= soft=AE Exchange - http://link=2Email2web=2Ecom/Personal/EnhancedEmail From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 23:25:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B64E3BEC7; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 23:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=NdHtyPj/gF9UINU/1y+hjRi0tdlnWNH3/Wq5R3Ii/44=; b=uYNH8PNtiWH7+Kek2aD4dIhqJUA5DUFkhDaC2t0l2NFD/NnkKixnJxpodkLim44jF83wl0cm2Hlljo+sCRj60h9MftFvUtcmhpQ4BKhFgdGahqZfs0sOA+8ZUoQAhh2/2Ytcr0M/n+L5xWIc+4ENo0tI0jZeq9cyzA+zhAbfXkA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XnJVCrNVrUdEExrRsoT1qc0IeBhIKpkPBUGi9uB6ihMyiYFuLhE+e2W+6ZCy1XFmyFGi89ilrIH+zGZDVnZHTOse0B+rn6kvIb2Q82zhagKmFYbL0+bmzc2y8mYFf87eWOKoARdL+7/7lGSbrbyfsok6MUPibzO/6WBATTdzrRU= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 16:25:23 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FCB "Direct Select" ? (was: Posting my looping rig's specification s) In-Reply-To: <870812.33053.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <870812.33053.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 23:25:25 +0000 (UTC) The display is nice, but no substitute for what I'm thinking of. Keeping track of what each button does, and what the state is, is crucial. TH On 10/8/07, L.A. Angulo wrote: > no LCD above each button but a nice and big diplay on > this one: > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 8 23:51:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 834473BECA; Mon, 8 Oct 2007 23:51:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <380-220071018231340398@M2W024.mail2web.com> References: <380-220071018231340398@M2W024.mail2web.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-95-979384479 Message-Id: <38F8D32A-1D7E-4D95-8116-303BC77F5933@jamesrichmond.com> From: James Richmond Subject: Re: semi OT: anyone using NI Kore ? Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:51:05 -0400 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 23:51:09 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-95-979384479 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Oct 8, 2007, at 7:13 PM, qua@oregon.com wrote: > I'm curious if anyone has tried / use NI Kore controller ? if > so, what > do you like/dislike? > -Qua I have one. I use the controller as a second audio card (along with my Protools HD/Logic combo) for running audio apps in parallel with Logic TDM (Peak, Library Monkey, Sound Grinder, Max, Melodyne. As an audio card it is pretty good. Using Kore, the meta-plugin is a total waste of time. Buggy & processor hog on power pc. Intel might be different. I can do almost everything that you can in Kore app from within Logic's environment (for the last ten years)- admittedly with more effort (but more flexibility). Using Kore controller to navigate Kore plugins... really good. I find having it pretty handy though because I have a cinema display mounted on an articulating arm over my console- I just plug Kore into the USB port on the cinema display and it sits neatly on the top of the channel strips. Regards, Jim Richmond --Apple-Mail-95-979384479 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Oct 8, 2007, = at 7:13 PM, qua@oregon.com = wrote:

I'm = curious if anyone has tried / use NI Kore controller ?=A0 =A0 if so, what

do you = like/dislike?

-Qua


I have = one.
I use the controller as a second audio card (along with my = Protools HD/Logic combo) for running audio apps in parallel with Logic = TDM (Peak, Library Monkey, Sound Grinder, Max, Melodyne.
As an = audio card it is pretty good.

Using Kore, the meta-plugin = is a total waste of time.
Buggy & processor hog on power = pc.
Intel might be different.

I can do almost everything = that you can in Kore app from within Logic's environment (for the last = ten years)- admittedly with more effort (but more = flexibility).

Using Kore controller to = navigate Kore plugins... really good.

I find having it pretty = handy though because I have a cinema display mounted on an articulating = arm over my console- I just plug Kore into the USB port on the cinema = display and it sits neatly on the top of the channel = strips.

Regards,=A0

Jim = Richmond
= --Apple-Mail-95-979384479-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 00:09:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8A0A3BED5; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 00:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1571 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 09 Oct 2007 00:09:58 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=I7LjTAFf3D665T6Xk/vxEJxAkvM0aGpJg1dhsOYYUlE=; b=JA6i0n+U7FeqmvNL9RKkE9xUPnQvb0Oh0PL/CGDtx5iktnlhEV87RCS5ZqW33jvYcpTBEHSop+dO6xLgNRnyfIfeN2tcAUDzCe5Whxf75rxFGwMY1KsmeZ6HIQlpUCj19DKgMsQDmIp1RvSr1c19n/LW2kKJ5gSvLcoV0S/TSBE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FdfWvco+fncUTYvAltDp4oAPlLZFNOHaCymQQR069Eh7DyZZDq2Jrd9ZIBP21xCfYq2/OrpoJXat0Xr64/OTruczjtiATeiAa1CtZ2XSegunlO4MMTploNwvgPaDKLWmz8eNaCXM+u/uyDesW9rSKBrzS8VQEW4xOCYOLHizw10= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:43:46 -0400 From: "radio radio" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: AW: Loop Survey - Summary - post scriptum to eben In-Reply-To: <001401c808d3$ca5cf330$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <001401c808d3$ca5cf330$1001a8c0@succubus> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 00:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Huh. Interesting question, so far as I can follow it, but certainly beyond my knowledge of statistical methods. Eben On 10/7/07, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > Eben, you said (replying to my age distribution question): > > > I'm not certain I understand your question about years of > > looping experience, although you may be asking why there are > > more people in the middle amount of years and less on the > > extremes, which is how almost all data looks when you take a > > survey (there is an average with most people in the middle, > > and less people are further away from average). > > No, the question is more specific. > First of all, of course you're right regarding the age of the loopers (for > which we also see some approximately Gaussian binning), but not regarding > the years of looping experience, and I'm gonna explain why: > > The mathematical model for this works like this. Any looper i has started at > a point t1,i in time with looping. Now when the survey happens at t2, he > will enter t2-t1,i as a reply to that question (which also has some > predefined bins, namely <1, 1-3, 3-5, 5-10 and >10 to somehow stick with the > typical bins of human resource departments). > > You may argue that there might be some answers from people who stopped > looping at a time t3,i that survey, so it's fairly reasonable to assume that all of the loopers > have been looping more or less all the time (at least everyone is still > looping right now, and most of them in all of or a considerable amount of > their current work). > > So what I'm looking at: how was the distribution when the people started > looping in the past. If you model that the same number of people started > looping every year, then after 18 years of looping, you get the 42% value we > have for the >10yrs people - but then the other bins look differently (the > 1-3 and 3-5 bins are about double the size of the <1 bin and the 5-10 bin is > nearly three times as big as the 3-5 bin because these bins have different > widths). More precisely, this model gives me values 5.3, 11, 11, 32 and 42, > respectively. > > So how has the number of loopers which joined each year in the past have to > look to lead to our distribution of 5 - 15 - 19 - 20 - 42? I did some simple > runs with the Solver in Excel, and it looks like it's a distribution with > the first people starting more than 20 years ago, a very slow increase from > then, then some sharp peaks about 9 and 5 years ago and since then a slight > decline. > > However, this set of equations is underdetermined, so: with your knowledge > of statistical methods, would you be able to deduct the generating function > or parameter for a surface which describes the solutions to this set of > equations? > > Rainer > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 01:17:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 632EE3BECF; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 01:17:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20071008181920.00e1f988@mail.onemodelplace.com> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:20:13 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE In-Reply-To: <003301c80983$0b2d8f00$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3AEA240E Resent-Message-ID: <-P-dzB.A.LbE.NatCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 01:17:02 +0000 (UTC) At the bottom of each of my notes... http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Smiles, Cara :) At 01:13 AM 10/8/2007 -0700, you wrote: >A couple of people have mentioned a sentiment that I share with them: >It's great to attach a face to the names of some of the people who contribute >here at the l.d. board. > >Could we put a page up or ten up at the website that has photos next to >all the >people who are here at the site? > >I think it would be great if we could attach names to faces. > > >If that would take up to much bandwidth then I would volunteer to >put them up at the Live Looping Tribe at tribe.net where it is free >to post photos. > > >It'd be better to have it here at L.D. so, to that end, why doesn't >everyone >find their best mug shot and print their name on it so that we can start >putting together a photo gallery of all the live loopers. > >yours, Rick > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: >269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 01:49:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 198D33BEC7; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 01:49:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 09 Oct 2007 01:49:43 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=1MSGA+g8hLYrVBTIAzrQDESoCtDbeUMHKE/su+NzhlnR1eMHvxfc1rI0Oi7uggPy0MrWrYMSO8GbBxgGLNSq1kl4tk7i1j0dTVfjdEAjFWTxiOgpXQNtFpkjPaNeTadQLuQa7dzTBqWNqahPhJV5lD+lkbb0LeIFO1DeFcl7Kdo=; X-YMail-OSG: I4eKtE8VM1mytzms7mIdSIS2WolVuHINRB5Hth.eO1JcMlLLutovDidC3dynrQ_UodYNBaFJid1.ndp0hPFV36pelUxRttYWAG2T5C0eOF9jsZ6naNRDLyDU8EyEWw-- Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 18:43:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Elmer Fuddski Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20071008181920.00e1f988@mail.onemodelplace.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-90561824-1191894180=:5107" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <61422.5107.qm@web38405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 01:49:44 +0000 (UTC) --0-90561824-1191894180=:5107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit What the heck is that thing on your neck? Are you hiding a goiter? Cara Quinn wrote: At the bottom of each of my notes... http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Smiles, Cara :) At 01:13 AM 10/8/2007 -0700, you wrote: >A couple of people have mentioned a sentiment that I share with them: >It's great to attach a face to the names of some of the people who contribute >here at the l.d. board. > >Could we put a page up or ten up at the website that has photos next to >all the >people who are here at the site? > >I think it would be great if we could attach names to faces. > > >If that would take up to much bandwidth then I would volunteer to >put them up at the Live Looping Tribe at tribe.net where it is free >to post photos. > > >It'd be better to have it here at L.D. so, to that end, why doesn't >everyone >find their best mug shot and print their name on it so that we can start >putting together a photo gallery of all the live loopers. > >yours, Rick > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: >269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM --------------------------------- Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. --0-90561824-1191894180=:5107 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit What the heck is that thing on your neck? Are you hiding a goiter?

Cara Quinn <CaraQuinn@onemodelplace.com> wrote:
At the bottom of each of my notes...

http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn

Smiles,

Cara :)

At 01:13 AM 10/8/2007 -0700, you wrote:

>A couple of people have mentioned a sentiment that I share with them:
>It's great to attach a face to the names of some of the people who contribute
>here at the l.d. board.
>
>Could we put a page up or ten up at the website that has photos next to
>all the
>people who are here at the site?
>
>I think it would be great if we could attach names to faces.
>
>
>If that would take up to much bandwidth then I would volunteer to
>put them up at the Live Looping Tribe at tribe.net where it is free
>to post photos.
>
>
>It'd be better to have it here at L.D. so, to that end, why doesn't
>everyone
>find their best mug shot and print their name on it so that we can start
>putting together a photo gallery of all the live loopers.
>
>yours, Rick
>
>
>
>
>--
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database:
>269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM

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Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. --0-90561824-1191894180=:5107-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 01:50:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6CE23BED8; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 01:50:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20071008184941.00e2ca10@mail.onemodelplace.com> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:53:35 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: Re: FCB "Direct Select" ? (was: Posting my looping rig's specification s) In-Reply-To: <033c01c809b5$5f4b4c80$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <830MhPtJlly3.YvBhrlmJ@smtp.tre.biz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3AEA240E Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 01:50:41 +0000 (UTC) Kris, I also remember photographically... I need to use this technique to remember all of the controls on every piece of equip I have. I also need to remember each display that comes up when I press a particular button or initiate a function so I can actually like use the gear on my own! lol! So if I didn't have this, I'd sort of be well, screwed! and not in the good way! lol! :) Anyway, thanks for the cool story!... Have an awesome day!... Smiles, Cara :) At 08:13 AM 10/8/2007 -0600, you wrote: >Wow, Fabio, do you really have a photographic memory? That is cool. I've >only known two people who had this, the prior director of work >organization (my boss), and a keyboard player I used to play with years >ago. I recall one gig where our singer lost his voice, and we handed the >lyrics sheet to the keyboard player. He glanced at it for 10 seconds, and >then sang the lyrics verbatim. I wonder if Jaco had a photographic memory. > >For me, my memory is so shot from over-use and sleep deprivation, that I >have to write everything down. My FCB is completely labeled with each >function on every button, three banks worth. And my max patch has a >section with the letters and numbers of my keyboard mapped to similar >functions. My memory used to be a lot better when I was getting my >bachelor's degree, as I distinctly remember memorizing pages and pages of >text on the elaboration of specific philosophical theories, and then >writing them down during essay exams. I just feel like my brain has been >re-wired since then...who downgraded my processor when I was asleep at >night? :) > >Kris > >----- Original Message ----- >>I use a "photografic memory" to remember the button where i stored a >>function on the FCB. > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: >269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 01:52:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E759F3BED6; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 01:52:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20071008185452.02c09ed8@mail.onemodelplace.com> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:55:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: Re: AW: Posting my looping rig's specifications In-Reply-To: <036b01c809b6$0b760180$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3AEA240E; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-470ADF8B1330=======" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 01:52:21 +0000 (UTC) --=======AVGMAIL-470ADF8B1330======= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_332646630==.ALT"; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3AEA240E --=====================_332646630==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3AEA240E Woohoo! can't wait!!! Awesome! Smiles, CQ :) At 08:18 AM 10/8/2007 -0600, you wrote: >When CT-Birds is released, you'll be able to hear me using this random >effect morphing feature, applied to a recording of the Red Breasted >Nuthatch! I have half tempted to share the MP3 now, but I don't want to >steal the project's fire. / Kris > >In a message dated 10/8/07 12:07:01 AM, >khartung@cableone.net writes: >>I hit my special random effector button >>(another max patch I created). Basically, it randomly turns on one of my >>max/msp effect patches, applies it for 10 seconds, randomly selects another, >>then does this indefinitley. > > >even as a luddite i must say.....SWEET!.....i wish i had a SREB > > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: >10/2/2007 6:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn --=====================_332646630==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3AEA240E   Woohoo!  can't wait!!!  Awesome!

Smiles,

CQ  :)

At 08:18 AM 10/8/2007 -0600, you wrote:

When CT-Birds is released, you'll be able to hear me using this random effect morphing feature, applied to a recording of the Red Breasted Nuthatch!   I have half tempted to share the MP3 now, but I don't want to steal the project's fire. / Kris

In a message dated 10/8/07 12:07:01 AM, khartung@cableone.net writes:
I hit my special random effector button
(another max patch I created). Basically, it randomly turns on one of my
max/msp effect patches, applies it for 10 seconds, randomly selects another,
then does this indefinitley.


even as a luddite i must say.....SWEET!.....i wish i had a SREB

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Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 = 6:43 PM --=======AVGMAIL-470ADF8B1330=======-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 02:07:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C719D3BED0; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 02:07:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20071008182222.00e25be8@mail.onemodelplace.com> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 18:29:58 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: Re: little boxes (was survey) In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20071008004102.04d42ec8@mail.onemodelplace.com> References: <697F55FB-9A99-498C-8632-9E022E6448CD@zoekeating.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3AEA240E Resent-Message-ID: <-xWS1B.A.vwG.TJuCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 02:07:15 +0000 (UTC) Ah, forgot the OS question regarding would one install another OS to use a specific looper, and my answer would be a definite and resounding YES!!! Again, am coming from an access angle here, in that the newer Mac OS's have some more global integrated access features built in as opposed to Windows, which requires about an extra thousand dollars to add speech to... ick!!! So yes, would (and am planning to) switch to Mac in a heartbeat, especially if it meant an easier time with creative sw... Smiles, Cara :) At 12:45 AM 10/8/2007 -0700, you wrote: > Coming in late here, (very busy) but I'm doing something similar in > that I'm using a midi looping seq to control EDP in addition to doing so > manually. > > As I'd mentioned earlier, the sw has access issues for me, so am using > hardware for now, but it's a similar concept. > > -And, as the sequencer is a midi looper, I'm effectively running one > looper with another. > >Smiles, > >CQ :) > >At 04:36 PM 10/2/2007 -0700, you wrote: > >>wot i mean is...i would think that people will choose their software >>tools based on what is available for their OS. so their choice in the >>survey might not say that much about their preferred looping 'school'. >> >>i mean, i would think that when someone needs any kind of tool...a >>strobe tuner, a midi keyboard, a media player....they would google >>what is out there for their OS. >> >>but that would be an interesting survey question! >> >>"would you install and run a different OS on your computer in order >>to use a particular software looper?" >> >>yes Live and Mobius are obviously different - one is more 'sampler' >>and one is more 'old skool EDP-esque'. (and i find the 'sampler-only' >>qualities of Live to be annoying). but to overcome the 'sampler' >>limitations a user might look around for what additional tools to >>use, in combination with Live, in order to accomplish EDP-esque >>looping (software plugin like Augustus or SooperLooper, or add an >>external hardware looper into an input channel). >> >>by the way, i couldn't figure out how to make my looping setup fit >>into the survey. >> >>- using a software looper to control a hardware looper. the audio is >>recorded onto a hardware-looping device but all the controls are sent >>from the software looper. >> >>is that a hardware or software preference? >> >>i'd love to know if anyone else does this. both electrix and bill >>walker have told me i might be the only one but i don't believe that >>at all. >>i want my sub-group dammit! >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: >>269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM > >--- > View my on-line portfolio at: > >http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each > other. -Then, anything is possible..." > >http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: >269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM > > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: >269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 03:06:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0CD9B3BED0; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 03:06:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000701c80a21$5f470eb0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: WAY OFF TOPIC: music trip advice sought Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 20:06:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 03:06:00 +0000 (UTC) In the first week of December, my wife and I will be going on a short rock n' roll vacation, seeing two Robert Pollard (of Guided by Voices) shows in Chicago and Cincinnati. The last show is in Cincinnati and the plane flights back to California are twice as expensive as out of Indianapolis some three hours drive time away so we want to leave from Indianpolis. We would like to spend one full day somewhere near Cincinatti for one day before we fly home. Does anyone have any ideas what would be a fun place to visit and stay a full day in that is within 3-4 hours of Cincinatti and/ or Indanapolis? We just don't know anything about that part of the country and Cincinnati just doesn't look all that interesting (or do we have the wrong?). I've toured with Martin Simpson in Bloomington, Indiana (which is about 5 hours drive away) which I found to be a lovely city, but it will also be the dead of winter. Any suggestions, yeee midwest loopers? yours, sincerely, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 03:29:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 416A23BEC5; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 03:29:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:31:11 -0500 From: Jeff Shirkey Subject: Re: WAY OFF TOPIC: music trip advice sought In-reply-to: <000701c80a21$5f470eb0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 References: <000701c80a21$5f470eb0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 03:29:26 +0000 (UTC) > We just don't know anything about that part of the country and > Cincinnati just doesn't look all that interesting (or do we have > the wrong?). I think your best bet is to explore Cincinnati. It's a pretty hip city, way more so than Indianapolis, imo. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 03:42:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 138B93BED3; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 03:42:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <073701c80a26$6bee3f30$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <830MhPtJlly3.YvBhrlmJ@smtp.tre.biz> <033c01c809b5$5f4b4c80$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: FCB "Direct Select" ? (was: Posting my looping rig's specification s) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:42:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 03:42:32 +0000 (UTC) Here is my FCB: http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear/fcb.jpg Bank 1 is all for my max/msp looper. Bank 2, preset 1, allow me to scroll through the max effect parameters I want the FCB foot controllers to control - that way, if I had two effects running, I can use the expressions to control the paramaters of one, but ignore the other. All the remaining presets are for turning my max patches on and off. Kris > I'd be interested in seeing pictures of how everyone's labeled their FCB. > > If only there was a MIDI foot controller with an LCD display above > each button...and that didn't cost $1000. > > TH From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 03:47:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BEC5F3BED6; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 03:47:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <074201c80a26$f4b6e100$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <830MhPtJlly3.YvBhrlmJ@smtp.tre.biz> <5.2.1.1.0.20071008184941.00e2ca10@mail.onemodelplace.com> Subject: Re: FCB "Direct Select" ? (was: Posting my looping rig's specification s) Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 21:46:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <1hO3h.A.jUC.JnvCHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 03:47:21 +0000 (UTC) I'm impressed. The part of that story I failed to mention is the song we were plaing that night at the club was "Taking it to the Street" (Doobie Brothers)....totally fun song....a blast to sing harmony on that one! Kris > Kris, I also remember photographically... I need to use this technique > to remember all of the controls on every piece of equip I have. > > I also need to remember each display that comes up when I press a > particular button or initiate a function so I can actually like use the > gear on my own! lol! So if I didn't have this, I'd sort of be well, > screwed! and not in the good way! lol! > > :) > > Anyway, thanks for the cool story!... > > Have an awesome day!... > > Smiles, > > Cara :) > From minoru45@verizon.net Tue Oct 9 04:01:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3601 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 09 Oct 2007 04:01:11 UTC Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net (vms044pub.verizon.net [206.46.252.44]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9516B3BEAC; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 04:01:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vms229.mailsrvcs.net ([192.168.1.2]) by vms044.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JPM00E55J1WIO14@vms044.mailsrvcs.net>; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:01:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 80.89.176.35 ([80.89.176.35]) by vms229.mailsrvcs.net (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:01:08 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 22:01:08 -0500 (CDT) From: Mt Minoru Fujii Subject: Thanks call me X-Originating-IP: [80.89.176.35] To: Undisclosed recipients: ; Reply-To: minfujii70@yahoo.com Message-id: <23156000.33134981191898868529.JavaMail.root@vms229.mailsrvcs.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Dear Friend, I have a Business Proposal of ( $30,600,000.00) for you to handle with me from my bank. 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I'm a multimedia artist with focus on experimental sound, music and video. I'm seeking a Flash designer/collaborator to help me build my website. You should also be experienced in streaming video and sound, as well as web marketing. I need somebody who is really good at this to help me create something special. Please hit me up with your links, experience and fees, etc. I am located in San Francisco. Thanks!
------=_Part_2917_30734685.1191900965383-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 04:17:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0111F3BED3; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 04:17:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <079a01c80a2a$e1690700$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, LoopMusic@yahoogroups.com, boisemusicians@yahoogroups.com, krispenhartung@yahoogroups.com, Free-Improvisation@googlegroups.com Subject: OT: Distribution List for the Boise Experimental Music Festival (BEMF) / Dates are Set! Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 22:14:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0796_01C809F8.958A5730" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 04:17:02 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0796_01C809F8.958A5730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FYI... ----- Original Message -----=20 Hello all, First off all, I apologize if you are receiving this email in error. I = lost all my BEMF Outlook distribution lists and have to resort to a = blanket email to all the addresses in my contacts folder. If you do = nothing with this email or the instructions below, then you will not = receive any further communications regarding the Boise Experimental = Music Festival. Now, on to business. The 3rd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival is = now set for May 22 - 25, 2008 (Thursday through Sunday). I will = communicate more details, venues, call for submissions, etc, at a later = date. I am moving toward a central, web based distribution list (Google = Groups) for the Boise Experimental Music Festival. This will pose less = challenges over managing the list via my computer's email program, and = will also provide more flexibility in how you get updated on the = whereabouts and status of future festivals. This new distribution group will be the primary mode of updating the = everyone on the Boise Experimental Music Festival, including web pages, = key dates, musician features, submission guidelines and announcements, = sound and video, musicians, tickets, etc. If you want to keep up to = date on the festival, be sure to sign up for the list, because I will = not be sending any further festival communications outside of the Google = Group list and a few other music related discussion groups that I = frequent. To get on the Boise Experimental Music Festival distribution list, click = on the following URL: http://groups.google.com/group/BEMF/sub?s=3DJYflbwgAAAApA-DyeBwZusdJj-Yap= blD&hl=3Den (this should subscribe you to the list with the email = address/account that you are using to read this message) After this, if you want to access BEMF past communications from the = Google Group web page, you will need to setup a Google Account. If you = don't have a Google Account set up yet, you'll first need to create an = account before you can access the group. You can create an account at: http://www.google.com/accounts/NewAccount?service=3Dgroups2&dEM=3Dkris.ha= rtung%40hp.com&continue=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2FBEMF%3= Fhl%3Den Cheers, Krispen Hartung Boise Experimental Music Festival Festival Coordinator / Artistic Director www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/ www.boisemusicians.com/BEMF-2/ info@krispenhartung.com ------=_NextPart_000_0796_01C809F8.958A5730 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
FYI...
 
----- Original Message -----=20

 
Hello all,
 
First off all, I apologize if you are receiving = this email=20 in error. I lost all my BEMF Outlook distribution lists and have to = resort to a=20 blanket email to all the addresses in my contacts folder. If you do = nothing with=20 this email or the instructions below, then you will not receive any = further=20 communications regarding the Boise Experimental Music = Festival.
 
Now, on to business. The 3rd Annual = Boise=20 Experimental Music Festival is now set for May 22 - 25, = 2008 (Thursday through Sunday). I will communicate more = details,=20 venues, call for submissions, etc, at a later date.
 
I am moving toward a central, web based = distribution list=20 (Google Groups) for the Boise Experimental = Music Festival. This will pose less=20 challenges over managing the list via my computer's email program, = and will=20 also provide more flexibility in how you get updated on the = whereabouts and=20 status of future festivals.
 
This new distribution group will = be the primary=20 mode of updating the everyone on the Boise Experimental Music Festival,=20 including web pages, key dates, musician features, submission guidelines = and=20 announcements, sound and video, musicians, tickets, etc.  If you = want to=20 keep up to date on the festival, be sure to sign up for the list, = because I will=20 not be sending any further festival communications outside of the Google = Group=20 list and a few other music related discussion groups that I=20 frequent.

To get on the Boise Experimental=20 Music Festival distribution list, click on the following=20 URL:

http://groups.google.com/group/BEMF/sub?s=3DJYflbwgAAAApA-Dy= eBwZusdJj-YapblD&hl=3Den (this should subscribe you to the list with = the email=20 address/account that you are using to read this message)

After this, if you want to access BEMF past = communications=20 from the Google Group web page, you will need to setup a Google = Account. If=20 you don't have a Google Account set up yet, you'll first need to create = an=20 account before you can access the group. You can create an account=20 at:

http://www.google.com/accounts/NewAccount?service=3Dgroups2&= amp;dEM=3Dkris.hartung%40hp.com&continue=3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google= .com%2Fgroup%2FBEMF%3Fhl%3Den

Cheers,

Krispen Hartung
Boise Experimental Music=20 Festival
Festival Coordinator / Artistic Director
www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/
www.boisemusicians.com/BEMF-2/
info@krispenhartung.com

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 05:53:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20C903BED0; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 05:53:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 09 Oct 2007 05:53:40 UTC Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 00:42:29 -0400 From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Video showing at Not Still Art Festival, Brooklyn NY, Sat 10.13.07 To: DrTVideo@egroups.com Cc: eyecandy@egroups.com, boss-improv@topica.com, iotacenter@egroups.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, atari-midi@yahoogroups.com, FRAMEWORKS@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 05:53:41 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, I have a piece showing as part of the Not Still=20 Art Festival as described below: Hope some of you=20 are are New York based can make it. I'll be=20 attending and anticipate an exciting program. At 11:26 PM -0400 9/29/07, N O T S T I L L A R T wrote: >You are invited to the 12th NOT STILL ART FESTIVAL! > >Abstract and non-narrative video art with music and sound design >"The FUTURE is the present with the past removed" William Gibson > >WHEN: Saturday October 13th, 2007 >TIME: 8:00 PM >WHERE: The Micro Museum, 123 Smith Street, Brooklyn, New York > (F Train - Bergen St. stop) >HOW MUCH? $10. > >LIMITED SEATING - BUY ADVANCE TICKETS ONLINE ! >INFO+DIRECTIONS: http://www.improvart.com/nsa/ > > >--->Virtual layers of BERLIN and Montreal - >crackling eggs and oyster shells <---- > crushed paper bags - >ants dancing to MATING cries - >...and Kyunghwa Lee, who just wants to know=20 >"what a CRAZY person's point of view makes=20 >possible" > >Then there is the blissful, amazing ABSTRACTION - >light painting and trips into the fourth dimension... >(look at the website for some PIX !!! http://www.improvart.com/nsa/) > >...and the MUSIC! >from Boston::: Ken Field, The Immersions, Dennis=20 >Miller and James Bohn, who wrote a book on=20 >Lejaren Hiller - >the first composer to write a piece of music using a computer - >::::Michaela Eremiasova's powerful Eastern=20 >European harmonies and choral lines are featured=20 >in the works >of electronic animators Stephanie Maxwell and=20 >Matt Costanza, both from New York State - >:::::::Neil Thornock's sound design for Jan=20 >Suschitzky's "Het Huis" from the Netherlands ! > >A gameboy video - >and visual NOISE from SERBIA ! > >Artistic Director, Carol Goss, invites you to >COME AND MEET THE ARTISTS - >Live Interviews at 1:00 PM - >INTERNATIONAL SCREENING @ 8:00 PM !!! > >:::::::::THE PROGRAM::::::::: > "Flood Water (bio)graphy" 3:17 >Tammy Ren=E9e Brackett video and music > >"Berlin Skin" 4:06 > Kim Collmer video and animation > Petra Klusmeyer music > >"Awen" 9:30 >Matt Costanza director >Michaela Eremiasova music composer > > "Density 1" 4:00 >Patrick Doan a.k.a. DEFASTEN video and sound >Tim Hecker "Balkenize You" music sample, courtesy Alien8 Recordings >Kelly Ferris choreography > >"pipilo" 2:15 >Brian Evans animation >Time Arts music > >"Sensorium" 5:00 >Karen Aqua animation >Ken Field music > >"Undulation" 3:47 >Harvey Goldman animation >James Bohn music > > "The Brown Paper Bag" 1:11 >Phillip Guthrie video and animation > > "Navigating the Pearl System" 2:50 >Frank Hartnett video and sound > > "Chalazae" 5:00 >Samantha Krukowski video >Bruce Pennycook sound > >"Crazy Woman" 4:10 >Kyunghwa Lee image and animation and sound > > "PIX" >Justin Lincoln images >Ben Owen sound > >"Runa's Spell" 3:30 >Stephanie Maxwell animation >Michaela Eremiasova music composer > > "White Noise" 9:45 >Dennis Miller image, animation, music composition > >"Anthem" 9:45 >Alex Potts light painting and music > > "Seek Assistance" 3:04 >Vishal Shah director, video >Adam Stansbie sound > > "Pixielation" 3:00 >Kyle Silfer a.k.a. SIGNAL DECAY video / music > > "Het Huis" 8:50 >Jan Suschitzky director >Neil Thornock music from "pastorogenesic" > > "Another Kind of Blues" 5:05 >Emile "Dr. T" Tobenfeld video >The Immersions music > > "Extagram-02" 1:46 >Tanja Vujinovic image and sound > -- " Practice makes perfect, imperfect is better." -- Paul Bley Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 08:34:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9B223BED0; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 08:34:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20071009013547.02c0b798@mail.onemodelplace.com> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 01:37:42 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE In-Reply-To: <61422.5107.qm@web38405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20071008181920.00e1f988@mail.onemodelplace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3AEA240E; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-470B3DD83CD5=======" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 08:34:28 +0000 (UTC) --=======AVGMAIL-470B3DD83CD5======= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_356787603==.ALT"; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3AEA240E --=====================_356787603==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3AEA240E lol! It's called a 'Neckie' and it's a designer piece from an SF designer. God, how redundant! lol! -Way fun shoot!!!... Smiles, Cara :) At 06:43 PM 10/8/2007 -0700, you wrote: >What the heck is that thing on your neck? Are you hiding a goiter? > >Cara Quinn wrote: >At the bottom of each of my notes... > >http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > >Smiles, > >Cara :) > >At 01:13 AM 10/8/2007 -0700, you wrote: > > >A couple of people have mentioned a sentiment that I share with them: > >It's great to attach a face to the names of some of the people who > contribute > >here at the l.d. board. > > > >Could we put a page up or ten up at the website that has photos next to > >all the > >people who are here at the site? > > > >I think it would be great if we could attach names to faces. > > > > > >If that would take up to much bandwidth then I would volunteer to > >put them up at the Live Looping Tribe at tribe.net where it is free > >to post photos. > > > > > >It'd be better to have it here at L.D. so, to that end, why doesn't > >everyone > >find their best mug shot and print their name on it so that we can start > >putting together a photo gallery of all the live loopers. > > > >yours, Rick > > > > > > > > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: > >269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM > >--- >View my on-line portfolio at: > >http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > >"The only things I really think are important, are love, and each >other. -Then, anything is possible..." > >http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: >10/2/2007 6:43 PM > > > > >Check >out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: >10/2/2007 6:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn --=====================_356787603==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3AEA240E   lol!  It's called a 'Neckie' and it's a designer piece from an SF designer.  God, how redundant!  lol! 

  -Way fun shoot!!!...

Smiles,

Cara  :)

At 06:43 PM 10/8/2007 -0700, you wrote:

What the heck is that thing on your neck? Are you hiding a goiter?

Cara Quinn <CaraQuinn@onemodelplace.com> wrote:
At the bottom of each of my notes...

http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn

Smiles,

Cara :)

At 01:13 AM 10/8/2007 -0700, you wrote:

>A couple of people have mentioned a sentiment that I share with them:
>It's great to attach a face to the names of some of the people who contribute
>here at the l.d. board.
>
>Could we put a page up or ten up at the website that has photos next to
>all the
>people who are here at the site?
>
>I think it would be great if we could attach names to faces.
>
>
>If that would take up to much bandwidth then I would volunteer to
>put them up at the Live Looping Tribe at tribe.net where it is free
>to post photos.
>
>
>It'd be better to have it here at L.D. so, to that end, why doesn't
>everyone
>find their best mug shot and print their name on it so that we can start
>putting together a photo gallery of all the live loopers.
>
>yours, Rick
>
>
>
>
>--
>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database:
>269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM

---
View my on-line portfolio at:

http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn

"The only things I really think are important, are love, and each
other. -Then, anything is possible..."

http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn


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Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos.

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM

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  View my on-line portfolio at: 

http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn

  "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other.  -Then, anything is possible..." 

http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn
--=====================_356787603==.ALT-- --=======AVGMAIL-470B3DD83CD5======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg=cert; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3AEA240E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Description: "AVG certification" No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 = 6:43 PM --=======AVGMAIL-470B3DD83CD5=======-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 08:56:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9ECC83BED9; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 08:56:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20071008190111.02c0b798@mail.onemodelplace.com> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:00:02 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper In-Reply-To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20071008014920.02fb4270@mail.onemodelplace.com> <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20071008014920.02fb4270@mail.onemodelplace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-3AEA240E Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 08:56:49 +0000 (UTC) Travis, excellent points! First off, I tend to use short loops when playing with others, so they're easy to change quickly if I need to. And, as I'd alluded to, I may overdub as I'm multiplying so it can more quickly morph a loop without changing it immediately. I've found though, that a good quick rhythm adjustment of the loop, (so that its length is correct) even if the audio material itself isn't always perfectly on time, still helps in the general perception of timing. If it's only short term, then it usually works out fine... In the case where something really just doesn't match up at all, even with the proper loop length or a gradual morphing, I tend to make it granular and drop in new bits of audio rhythmically so I can still sort of keep the old loop but add a new rhythm even if it is sort of not the nicest, most delicate approach. lol! And then of course, when all else fails, I can just do sus record and record / trigger a completely new loop on the fly! :) Smiles, Cara :) At 07:43 AM 10/8/2007 -0700, you wrote: >It's not clear to me how that would help, since simply changing the >length of the loop to match a new tempo is only musically effective >(in a conventional sense) if the audio information contained within >the loop matches the tempo of what everyone else is playing. I can >see if you've got an ambient pad with no real "tempo", but having four >125 bpm bar lengths full of 120bpm music (for example) isn't going to >"work" in conventional music. Do you re-record the loop information >when you do this? > >TH > >On 10/8/07, Cara Quinn wrote: > > I use a combo of retrigger / sus-unrounded-multiply on the EDP. This > > way I can comfortably play with others changing the loop length on the fly > > and / or retriggering if necessary. The performance is seamless and I can > > overdub while multiplying as well... > > > > For those not familiar with this EDP feature, it allows you to change > > the loop length (either shorter or longer) on the fly and can be > > unquantized so one can listen to a tempo and simply expand or contract the > > loop in real time. This is different from the Repeater in that the loop > > actually has material added or subtracted from it with the EDP as you do > > the multiply, whereas the Repeater can apply time stretching to the loop > > using BPM rather than simply defining a length by ear as it were... > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: >10/2/2007 6:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 09:09:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDF423BED0; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:09:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20071008162829.00e1f988@mail.onemodelplace.com> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 02:12:24 -0700 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: Re: Subject: Re: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) In-Reply-To: <4707C1E7.8040309@mhorse.com> References: <20071006145052.DB5D53BF36@arsenic.violacea.com> <20071006145052.DB5D53BF36@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-1AA47933 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:09:10 +0000 (UTC) I've said this before, and will say it again: GO - SEE- DARYL!!! You'll be super glad you did!!! :) Laters, CQ :) At 12:12 PM 10/6/2007 -0500, you wrote: >Lessee, there were a lot of questions in there...I do "dry" solo >guitar/vocal shows, usually half instrumental pieces, half vocal, as a >separate thing from looping (which at this point, only with Chinapainting, >I'm not doing solo looping gigs otherwise right now). I started out as a >musician playing tuba, did some typical piano lessons, then flirted with >drums and bass before hitting on guitar, and the thing that I loved >instantly were chords, chords, chords. I LOVE CHORDS. I might have stuck >with the piano for this reason, but the expressiveness that Rainer >mentioned drew me more towards the guitar, I believe. > >So I don't do solo-line gigs, or tunes. Neither my current solo stuff nor >Chinapainting involve real single-note soloing, but when I do find myself >in that situation, I always involve a lot of partial or complete chords in >addition to solo lines. I do love horns, and vocals, and other single-note >instruments, but I think it's their incredible dynamic range that makes >them work for me. I think what drew me to looping was having more harmonic >colors at the same time, more interesting simultaneous combinations of >notes/textures. > >(brief plug: I'm playing a few of these currently on-topic vocal/instro >solo shows in the weeks before and after the Loopfest, all in CA. October >14 in Culver City (that is, LA), October 25 and 26 in Oxnard, October 27 >in Redondo Beach. Chinapainting is also playing shows right before and >after the 'fest, the 18th in Oakland, 19th in San Francisco, and Sunday >way out in Lodi at a winery. I'll flog the looping shows when the time >gets closer, details for the solo shows are on my site. begging your >indulgence..) > >Daryl Shawn >www.swanwelder.com >www.chinapaintingmusic.com > >>I've always wondered why someone chooses a particular instrument as their >>"voice" - multitimbral vs mono timbral - and, based on my own experience >>and conversations with others came to the conclusion (assumption?) that, >>in a lot of cases, it has to do with how you hear things/ organize >>sounds, in your head. When you think of a melody are you hearing single >>notes flowing one after the other, multiple voices running parallel, or >>more texturally (ie: notes stacked on top of each other)? When you pick >>up your instrument do you gravitate towards single note lines or a more >>chordal approach and is this based on preference or the physicality of >>the instrument? Another question I should have asked in my original post >>was: How many people have switched instruments to meet their needs. > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: >269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 15:01:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F11803BED3; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 15:01:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: midifriedchicken@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com (Loopers Delight) Subject: LoopersDelight Website Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:01:24 +0000 Message-Id: <100920071501.918.470B97C4000DCDA3000003962216551406020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWlkaWZyaWVkY2hpY2tlbkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_918_1191942084_0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 15:01:26 +0000 (UTC) --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_918_1191942084_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Just looking at the Loopers Delight website for the first time in months. It needs some attention. Theres basically the same info there that was there 5 years ago. So many of the Loopers profiles are now dead links. A face lift is needed. --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_918_1191942084_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Just looking at the Loopers Delight website for the first time in months. It needs some attention. Theres basically the same info there that was there 5 years ago. So many of the Loopers profiles are now dead links.
A face lift is needed.
--NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_918_1191942084_0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 16:11:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F7E93BED5; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 16:11:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=5dHFjftcX1nqiGiwsXWl8FKkIN4PRS4yHWKL002xMqgHY/NYXGipO2AuJykl7lxtMOUF9hR/6IvmzbYwpT/8EvtW0xQjgTFVtb8afEQpGFU7YkeTS7VMCrOS4aCVNAvWLTZlCPq0ZW7K/UXJ3aHMXijHFjnm49dTMX1NxN/quLo=; X-YMail-OSG: gyWgnXoVM1nugX6e85me36505Q0CFV3CGZsOnZ_3TFHi1qFgI3HUakNcF2536cZn9Kd8qbM_KfWQH62Xr1un.OqVuQZGKCB1i9V9RWy_dgxRst0q3mKqIkJ23BcSoQ-- Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 09:11:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <470B08D9.3090009@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1842961764-1191946272=:61276" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <255810.61276.qm@web35111.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 16:11:14 +0000 (UTC) --0-1842961764-1191946272=:61276 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It appears to be in jest. Daryl Shawn wrote: Jeez...the first looper photos with high aesthetic appeal (sorry fellas), and you imagine the worst...depressing worldview, that! Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > What the heck is that thing on your neck? Are you hiding a goiter? --------------------------------- Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. --0-1842961764-1191946272=:61276 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit It appears to be in jest.

Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:
Jeez...the first looper photos with high aesthetic appeal (sorry
fellas), and you imagine the worst...depressing worldview, that!

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> What the heck is that thing on your neck? Are you hiding a goiter?


Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. --0-1842961764-1191946272=:61276-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 18:25:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 384E53BEC5; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 18:25:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 09 Oct 2007 18:25:03 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Yz6caU9zdCzyCltF/Bnm+wR/bJqRIT7NHq8jeE6NnAkVOU02rLlDsphTWzW42VqtJ3LpPv1L2BSw5OwklbS4/MbNMmZj/1lk26IVMq+novC5W/u8HaSifvDyPCpABcqEU7Qftmi6rBVu46+RsBgqlN7Ctb0oRk9IhX3tkL5CNeI=; X-YMail-OSG: fTRPG68VM1mvY.3Uw.BhwB9BjF4BehPxii6lwcrYS3GXIFOTtjF3Kg30mmNiL7dXq.BQnQQzAQWalW8XAFl_qy_ubOlgDfSY4EPhBAkTxCqMOtwSjipV.5StGZlhPQ-- Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 11:18:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Subject: Re: photo contribution To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <282882.1464.qm@web34212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 18:25:04 +0000 (UTC) I also just came in to this thread what kind of image would you like me to contribute? Thanks, Daniel T. Albertini --- Rev Fever wrote: > Er...please forgive, but I have not been keeping up w/ the specifics > this thread, but also, I now wish to contribute an image. > > What are the details, both "basic" and "finer" ? TIA! > > L8r... > > -Rev. Fever > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a vacation? Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. http://travel.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 18:37:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AFD23BED2; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 18:37:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <4759e5740710081022r7a3c1391x4f50f91c42827a6d@mail.gmail.com> References: <006201c809cf$8dd054a0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <4759e5740710081022r7a3c1391x4f50f91c42827a6d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-1046929269 Message-Id: From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE, (Flickr group) / photo problem Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 11:36:50 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0.2 (host5.webserver1010.com [64.177.88.232]); Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:37:02 -0400 (EDT) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 18:37:04 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-1046929269 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I tried the below instructions and it *said* it had been uploaded, but when I refreshed the flickr page to see...nada. Nowheresville. What did I do wrong? Or, does it take awhile to actually show up on flickr? (OR...?) TIA! Rev. Fever On Oct 8, 2007, at 10:22 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > yes... > > select any photo of your own... > > then there is a button on the top left of the photo "add to group" > > click that and it will allow you to add it to the group directly. > > all best, > > todd > > > > On 10/8/07, Rick Walker wrote: > I went and joined but can't seem to figure out how to add photos to > the > group pool. > > Am I missing something very obvious? > > yours, Rick Walker > > > > > -- > http://www.toddreynolds.com |: > http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic |: > ------------------------------------------------------|: > 917.576.6166 > todd@toddreynolds.com > toddreyn@gmail.com --Apple-Mail-1-1046929269 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I tried the=A0 below = instructions and it *said* it had been uploaded,
but when I = refreshed the flickr page to see...nada.=A0 Nowheresville.

What did I do wrong? Or, = does it take awhile to actually show up on flickr? = (OR...?)
TIA!

Rev. = Fever=A0

On Oct 8, 2007, at 10:22 AM, todd = reynolds wrote:

yes...=A0

select any photo of your = own...=A0

then= there is a button on the top left of the photo "add to group" =

click that = and it will allow you to add it to the group directly.

all best,

todd



On 10/8/07, Rick = Walker <looppool@cruzio.com = > wrote:
I went and joined but can't seem to figure out = how to add photos to the
group pool.

Am I missing something = very obvious?

yours,=A0=A0Rick = Walker




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= --Apple-Mail-1-1046929269-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 18:47:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC9633BED5; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 18:47:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=jy7FQv0Q3ZxbNy0jJVzydu4RkDoaHIlfnOaXa3k9Ygo=; b=Bs9h6wyiIIZQ2vN2jZXavXaIgZ1u9xkSzIhftW0cRvN3NofHx5b6xncqM/r+MITPrNMVNsvmGfa7Sg75FefwiHVORX/UXwibWJklfTudjh2cQc4ae4NmVK+1pUvV9wxyVpos3VRz90oc8RpdJUgXOQzKVRoelt7+a/GlOftGZyM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=aEn6t6YJL1q11Lulkbm/+jV6oMg4se970pFgI/L4cq+jMhiLgoKXk2uAbjKo1efcLJzDcmoOCEchnyb7rDRtw3oR9R/e4tOOvnOMForxzQWhPCJK7/6Q3KRgg+EyxWcOMFWGnt2VB6Tc/MSkl1dj+mUfPj3jvd+jRZ9Xwvp5cgQ= Message-ID: <4759e5740710091147p6a1d5c07ma11f3a32e13d5070@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 14:47:56 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE, (Flickr group) / photo problem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30390_33482069.1191955676352" References: <006201c809cf$8dd054a0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <4759e5740710081022r7a3c1391x4f50f91c42827a6d@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 18:47:58 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_30390_33482069.1191955676352 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline oh no, rev... the directions below were in response to 'what do I do with a picture I already have uploaded?' if I was responding to you, perhaps I misunderstood where you were in the process. You must first upoad your photo (s) to your account... once YOU have the photos seeable and uploaded AS you... then double click on th particular photo you want to select only it. then you'll see 'add to group' and that addition will be immediate, yes. if you'd like further support, email me off list, and i'll back you up. todd On 10/9/07, Rev Fever wrote: > > I tried the below instructions and it *said* it had been uploaded,but > when I refreshed the flickr page to see...nada. Nowheresville. > > > What did I do wrong? Or, does it take awhile to actually show up on > flickr? (OR...?) > TIA! > > > Rev. Fever > > On Oct 8, 2007, at 10:22 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > > yes... > > select any photo of your own... > > > then there is a button on the top left of the photo "add to group" > > > click that and it will allow you to add it to the group directly. > > > all best, > > todd > > > > > On 10/8/07, Rick Walker wrote: > > > > I went and joined but can't seem to figure out how to add photos to the > > group pool. > > > > Am I missing something very obvious? > > > > yours, Rick Walker > > > > > > > -- > http://www.toddreynolds.com |: > http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic |: > ------------------------------------------------------|: > 917.576.6166 > todd@toddreynolds.com > toddreyn@gmail.com > > > > -- http://www.toddreynolds.com |: http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic |: ------------------------------------------------------|: 917.576.6166 todd@toddreynolds.com toddreyn@gmail.com ------=_Part_30390_33482069.1191955676352 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline oh no, rev... 

the directions below were in response to 'what do I do with a picture I already have uploaded?'

if I was responding to you, perhaps I misunderstood where you were in the process.

You must first upoad your photo (s) to your account... 

once YOU have the photos seeable and uploaded AS you...

then double click on th particular photo you want to select only it.  then you'll see 'add to group'  and that addition will be immediate, yes.

if you'd like further support, email me off list, and i'll back you up.

todd




On 10/9/07, Rev Fever < revfever@ubergadget.com> wrote:
I tried the  below instructions and it *said* it had been uploaded,
but when I refreshed the flickr page to see...nada.  Nowheresville.

 
What did I do wrong? Or, does it take awhile to actually show up on flickr? (OR...?)
TIA!

 
Rev. Fever 

On Oct 8, 2007, at 10:22 AM, todd reynolds wrote:

yes... 

 
select any photo of your own... 

 
then there is a button on the top left of the photo "add to group"

 
click that and it will allow you to add it to the group directly.

 
all best,

todd

 


On 10/8/07, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com > wrote:
I went and joined but can't seem to figure out how to add photos to the
group pool.

Am I missing something very obvious?

yours,  Rick Walker




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------=_Part_30390_33482069.1191955676352-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 18:49:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2DA133BEE6; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 18:49:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=qWrzx6mfLhq1PQ9nYlTAQxhGGjVPAL4HW3Shftlb3wY=; b=EV2EAa+YN/paXIjYee50n5zA/TnVfsLIM7cwh3vKuJ1AlskZDzTLPF6jeDZXG/+Y6k2zzD0wdwrEx94mLzTzZW2WD1vU7MVgZcabUXOb1VUeH+z2jaFpa/VdMWuEEFQWlR1++SejqjMxfROoQVLlID1FOmu2IciyfzkfyYwnaak= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=rhbK9gaQ+5xt+saBeVgnbY8wnN8jBDRr1GNvKiL8TLhOZCigdRIQIrbM2HY3CSfGU8zftyusHipKl/ZFb77PnKGeE6TiL2iehaWTyE07cbzmEBD9qEj2iJJmMBWpXE15QmdU+aVU3XFSlKZY8l2VTycyywA/dpJsFNU+a8zi8as= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <282882.1464.qm@web34212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <282882.1464.qm@web34212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: photo contribution Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 20:49:23 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <0RkaC.A.Yb.808CHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 18:49:33 +0000 (UTC) On 9 okt 2007, at 20.18, Dan wrote: > I also just came in to this thread what kind of image would you > like me to contribute? Thanks, > Daniel T. Albertini The idea was to assemble pictures where people look "normal" (as opposed to how we look when playing instruments) per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 18:50:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2592F3BED9; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 18:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=5yNEGV84iGV6U2heHwGFiF1PJIgK0WdjtnwCIa8BfNE=; b=IItg8Zw6N1NAFXasORAaDkEfl2HVTmFrteC4P3WaW+UmPZuRUsreTjvLaTFZFWQglf2oqd0ZWgxSodUi02iZ7g4Q14rLNNYsNelj0BABecCRq89DjZ3HoU+GHo1B9ok6E3PCl+xAgghRNWIpf+QSx9CNNIDpX/S/mbOzuWI67d8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=s5udaEh1KajKliPFzez1X8/m43m22e2LwOBBAGeFxqBEaUPVQUVjZn2Q3wZEQxBAAp7LTN02Z844kV59hjYyonlFif1xx4lSZzjAwOtNXjFHgt3o08vxrbR6RyhepvrTaA0USCdRBz52fzWrI8+tKCHL4EinMnlj9nz3LvFjhg4= Message-ID: <4759e5740710091150j1eaf7d86r3852412ce5cea068@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 14:50:36 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: photo contribution In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30403_13456327.1191955836784" References: <282882.1464.qm@web34212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 18:50:38 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_30403_13456327.1191955836784 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline darn, wish I'D known that... I'll change my pic. :) On 10/9/07, Per Boysen wrote: > > On 9 okt 2007, at 20.18, Dan wrote: > > > I also just came in to this thread what kind of image would you > > like me to contribute? Thanks, > > Daniel T. Albertini > > The idea was to assemble pictures where people look "normal" (as > opposed to how we look when playing instruments) > > per > > -- http://www.toddreynolds.com |: http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic |: ------------------------------------------------------|: 917.576.6166 todd@toddreynolds.com toddreyn@gmail.com ------=_Part_30403_13456327.1191955836784 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline darn, wish I'D known that... I'll change my pic.

:)

On 10/9/07, Per Boysen < perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On 9 okt 2007, at 20.18, Dan wrote:

> I also just came in to this thread what kind of image would you
> like me to contribute? Thanks,
> Daniel T. Albertini

The idea was to assemble pictures where people look "normal" (as
opposed to how we look when playing instruments)

per




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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 19:13:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E7093BEE2; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 19:13:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <470BD199.5070104@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:08:09 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE References: <20071009184759.58EEB3BEDB@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20071009184759.58EEB3BEDB@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 19:13:16 +0000 (UTC) Yeah...mine was cheek-tongued as well, and I forgot my normal rule of not pointing out a "you" when being semi-snarky...no accusation actually intended. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > It appears to be in jest. > > */Daryl Shawn /* wrote: > > Jeez...the first looper photos with high aesthetic appeal (sorry > fellas), and you imagine the worst...depressing worldview, that! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 20:10:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 752E53BEC7; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 20:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 09 Oct 2007 20:10:31 UTC Message-ID: <61999.72.51.110.167.1191960231.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 16:03:51 -0400 (AST) Subject: Mobius Multiply Help From: "Andre' Donawa" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 20:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I'm running Mobius with a FCB1010 controller in Bidule. Everything is working great with the exception of multiply. I have an EDP so I know the basics. Here's my problem. I'm trying to use multiply in the same basic way as with the EDP. Sometimes it works OK other times I get a gap in what I thought I was recording. I've been trying some different settings but still no luck. I have a feeling it's something to do with the set up. Appreciate any help anyone can give. Thanks, Andre From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 20:13:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99A6A3BED3; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 20:13:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=YEjJquf4VvtAXBMs+6CLq+rgOTy3bAMLtc1osCUOPlg=; b=n+2S+8pZGVTez6zzYjEaeMqU3ZjF6THf7MoG8ciYi7snvFj0pvjTCyQ8hmD9RcEX2ZwqRirkjbuI10awnFUJVyzk9QE0bWjAF/ENRQiBnvSGSx6VQXlljIwND21DSOmOEePgfLY3BwAuZnOGuXLjY8REPiguBit/A/Y00QWx56w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ZNckbAFKFRkyz37mdnhdEmdgX/RzKfpAHjOTwaRPPxKYxfUl354meRksBnVWBfZktEBSo2NDfHw+m+Zx/Q845PE9vuWT9zPx7pSnrpBEkCrsD+rkm8AVJ4Jhjont4yWebRzH4RPBzxu3nzAdqPzYvOujFYzO6VgQoiMxPV4yiq0= In-Reply-To: <61999.72.51.110.167.1191960231.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <61999.72.51.110.167.1191960231.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9F30A728-C012-402C-BEC2-FD8899682BFF@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Mobius Multiply Help Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 22:13:21 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 20:13:28 +0000 (UTC) On 9 okt 2007, at 22.03, Andre' Donawa wrote: > I'm running Mobius with a FCB1010 controller in Bidule. > Everything is working great with the exception of multiply. > I have an EDP so I know the basics. > Here's my problem. > I'm trying to use multiply in the same basic way as with the EDP. > Sometimes it works OK other times I get a gap in what I thought I was > recording. > I've been trying some different settings but still no luck. > I have a feeling it's something to do with the set up. Try closing the Multiply action with Overdub instead of a second Multiply press. That works fine for me and other users I have discussed this with. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 9 20:57:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B6CB3BED3; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 20:57:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Ninja-PIM: Scanned by Ninja X-Ninja-AttachmentFiltering: (no action) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: Mobius Multiply Help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 15:57:32 -0500 Message-ID: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BC3B@keel.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <61999.72.51.110.167.1191960231.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Thread-Topic: Mobius Multiply Help thread-index: AcgKsHOdqq+uFLomTiqLELJ0cLY+GwABgIiQ References: <61999.72.51.110.167.1191960231.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> From: "Jeff Larson" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 20:57:38 +0000 (UTC) > I'm trying to use multiply in the same basic way as with the EDP. > Sometimes it works OK other times I get a gap in what I thought I was > recording. Check the preset and make sure you have "Round Mode" checked. This is a confusingly named parameter that means "record during rounding". If this is off, recording will stop the moment you press the closing multiply even though the multiply will continue to round up until=20 a full cycle is added. Jeff From service@ppl.com Tue Oct 9 21:52:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 13267 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 09 Oct 2007 21:52:46 UTC Received: from mail.presentationpro.com (mail.presentationpro.com [209.164.4.227]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 903053BEB8; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 21:52:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from UnknownHost [89.137.233.200] by mail.presentationpro.com with SMTP; Tue, 9 Oct 2007 14:10:29 -0400 From: "PayPal" Subject: Security Center ! 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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 02:43:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F7473BED2; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:43:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20071009194529.04dda398@mail.onemodelplace.com> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 19:46:32 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE In-Reply-To: <470BD199.5070104@mhorse.com> References: <20071009184759.58EEB3BEDB@arsenic.violacea.com> <20071009184759.58EEB3BEDB@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-2743622 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:43:17 +0000 (UTC) Woohoo! Snarkationalism rules!!! Smiles, CQ :) At 02:08 PM 10/9/2007 -0500, you wrote: >Yeah...mine was cheek-tongued as well, and I forgot my normal rule of not >pointing out a "you" when being semi-snarky...no accusation actually intended. > >Daryl Shawn >www.swanwelder.com >www.chinapaintingmusic.com >>It appears to be in jest. >> >>*/Daryl Shawn /* wrote: >> >> Jeez...the first looper photos with high aesthetic appeal (sorry >> fellas), and you imagine the worst...depressing worldview, that! > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: >269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: 10/9/2007 4:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: 10/9/2007 4:43 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 02:48:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 380693BED6; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:48:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20071009192004.04dda398@mail.onemodelplace.com> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 19:51:39 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: Re: Subject: Re: another survey (wasRe: OT, but getting close to not-OT: guitar/sax improv sessions) In-Reply-To: <470BD016.7050907@mhorse.com> References: <20071009184759.58EEB3BEDB@arsenic.violacea.com> <20071009184759.58EEB3BEDB@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-2743622 Resent-Message-ID: <9XGzoD.A.Tw.O2DDHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:48:47 +0000 (UTC) lol! Too funny! Incidentally, FYI the designer I was speaking of, has a whole lot of interesting funky designs like that; I.E. sleeves, without the main part of the top, the Neckies, of which I believe there are two currently on my folio, (which are both meant to be worn under jackets and such) various belts and such, and other accessories... The focus of that particular shoot that my main img comes from, was to showcase her accessory designs and some of the imgs, like those where I'm behind the drum kit, are nudes (shown in a Vegas pool show last year) to feature just the accessories without the clothing, which might be the more common thing a designer might be featured for... It's a good concept... -Not a new one, but definitely a cool edgey one!... :) Anyway, fun stuff!!! woohoo! Looking forward to catching up with ya in a few days and hearing some great music!!! :) Catch ya laters!!! Rock on!!! Smiles, Cara :) At 02:01 PM 10/9/2007 -0500, you wrote: >Thanks for the props, Cara..!...I blush, I blush. > >the trunkful of silk Neckie's are on their way... > >Daryl Shawn >www.swanwelder.com >www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: >269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: 10/9/2007 4:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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    Explore the seve= n wonders of the world Learn more! = --_317652b6-72d4-4124-bd28-cb321092e3b5_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 06:54:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB3493BEC5; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:54:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00e701c80b0a$77c99fe0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: FRUSTRATED Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 23:54:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <-toNq.A.zW.lcHDHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 06:54:29 +0000 (UTC) I sent in an off topic post that I really wanted people alerted to so they wouldn't be bugged by it and could remove it. Here's what I sent in my header: "WAY OFF TOPIC: music trip advice sought" When I got the daily digest here is what it had as a header in the digest: "music trip advice sought" with no indication of the fact that I was responsible about making an OFF TOPIC identification. I'm confused and frustrated. Is the condenscing of Subject headers handled automatically or by hand? If it is done by hand, could I please request that OFF TOPIC posting tags be left in so as not to bug people who don't want to read them. Frankly, I was really sorry to see the off topic postings put at another place. I think it dilutes the community............I think it takes a lot more time to read through the split communities mail now and if you want a response from the community on an off topic subject you can't get it by going to the new site. Is anyone else with me on this one. I want to go back to teh way it was and then encourage to be responsible about off topic posting labellings. yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 07:30:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 128493BECD; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=j0+0sanSK3axOFcJcHrucPWdjBCoZdBrMzKz/yh63Do=; b=NY6XE+BpTsuwnWgePfFAGdNjynbn6vdmp1AitNXF1RdB8j6oBGxHHFcmBEAMdz+Oj8WMgyFNYRQoj8aPdvyq4x4CJXxkd2je6oMZK7736dfl/ckLeSl4avapGujkfzu7G/hJNXo7lyWsfKtrciSuI76knZ0wS+lYe0IDDn7jL7s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=fbc0kgxmIiOvTV4PTWalE5857C/qITo6cK1jAWOqFRK1D5RQY/fNfniIXAH7I4vLnjtQzv7a6FyDBrt0DRPmXoZt08PrHqZNePtY/SmTN9WtFLmeYF12h1wDglPBXX+p2B2i5Jp7ZXFkbHm1Oq0XjSxpE0XLQHLwfFgZHU/rJwA= In-Reply-To: <00e701c80b0a$77c99fe0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> References: <00e701c80b0a$77c99fe0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <40A579CA-095D-4635-BAEA-5D7AD26BE2AE@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: FRUSTRATED Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:30:09 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:30:14 +0000 (UTC) On 10 okt 2007, at 08.54, Rick Walker wrote: > Is anyone else with me on this one. > I want to go back to teh way it was and then encourage to be > responsible about > off topic posting labellings. I'm following all posts to LD and I have not seen any notification on any change. So as far as I understand there is no policy at all regarding off topic posts, except for the usual: each individual poster may add whatever subject line he thinks most helpful to fellow readers. Did I miss out on something? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 07:33:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 091BE3BED6; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:33:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=QyMJE4lyz5yWCvRo7XU21jjAtINGXzDMQyxbKrAIOWY=; b=CeHC86bKRe1V+WvrVTbGST8MEuU8yXAkVfaueBifw2z3IjxIK8i82bx3gGfng9ikfCQdZMCRXEQ+pMklxYq7XQ6pA1l/ByWFeHUCU6cD46F2dyDQXfnr9ATEkTiEVnSaNSFjRPMDwaLsBZAQsUUCj09vEOmhlKKdGRaf1p8PIrI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=MKtfjotLbUYq7WzCFeMw5JbrQrssFe9MB4UtSI2Kfdp38FocyvyAv2gNGa4XRGPcsxR+8OCHyF6i4AnCHke2igk1NybGS5rvnJtvRiiSmhIuW4zccbZlzyc81Bs6ibSHzwTuUXGFyHlJ+6EbuKps5urNeZyjnsyt6HPCSrs0wtg= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:33:51 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: LD Subject: WAY OFF TOPIC: please ignore eom MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10455_29737998.1192001631961" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:33:53 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_10455_29737998.1192001631961 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline TH ------=_Part_10455_29737998.1192001631961 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline TH ------=_Part_10455_29737998.1192001631961-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 07:52:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C13F93BECD; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:52:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 621513583-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.253.126 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4HAAchDEdPQv1+/2dsb2JhbACCKaUb Message-ID: <470C84C4.2060206@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 08:52:36 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [OT] FRUSTRATED References: <00e701c80b0a$77c99fe0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> In-Reply-To: <00e701c80b0a$77c99fe0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 07:52:36 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rick, It's not as bad as you think :-) The original idea was to use [OT] which would easily be picked up by email filters, but I bet no-one bothers to do that filtering anyway. In any case, on the non-digest list your heading wasn't edited at all. There's absolutely no chance that your heading would be edited by hand, the digest is made by fully automatic software installed by Kim as a kindness toward those of us who didn't have access to email filtering. Rick Walker wrote: > I sent in an off topic post that I really wanted people alerted to > so they wouldn't be bugged by it and could remove it. > > Here's what I sent in my header: > > "WAY OFF TOPIC: music trip advice sought" > > When I got the daily digest here is what it had as a header in the digest: > > "music trip advice sought" > > Frankly, I was really sorry to see the off topic postings put at > another place. > I think it dilutes the community............I think it takes a lot more > time to read through > the split communities mail now and if you want a response from the > community on an > off topic subject you can't get it by going to the new site. Quite often I don't reply to an off-topic post, even though it's interesting to me. Do people really want to hear about endless tales of Scoot's shoes? ...or endless philosophical debates with zero chance of resolution? ...string gauges? That's why I thought the LDOT list would be fun. > > Is anyone else with me on this one. > I want to go back to teh way it was and then encourage to be responsible > about > off topic posting labellings. Well don't worry, there aren't that many people on the LDOT list and traffic is very low, just like every LD offshoot list that ever was I expect it to die out after the initial excitement. In any case, nothing has changed at LD. There's still a vibrant amount of off topic, which (as your survey pointed out) nobody minds. > yours, Rick Walker cheers Rick andy butler From e.vang@yahoo.com.hk Wed Oct 10 10:18:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:18:34 UTC Received: from web63301.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web63301.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.97.26]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 34F223BEB8 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:18:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 4530 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Oct 2007 10:11:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com.hk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=gEF7Ob9bYaYfyJJBL21sjibHYwUXDq6yboPXTsRrazN3kvzH/l4UAwQ3FU+CODXy9SXTYiI4qHuUSH32PzL/yAtgzyhOPIiv99uVZTGn/QFd9pLhAd4XyWUCUqMG/Eue7iNC7G9ma/ds28cGO4zGeMJD9zHh6JPbWQhk+C7oAqM=; X-YMail-OSG: R_jIHSIVM1mo4GoGTT8MtqYwxOzZKukQ_v4F8v4T Received: from [88.202.35.150] by web63301.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:11:50 CST Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:11:50 +0800 (CST) From: lindy Evangelist Subject: From:Evangelist Lindy Mike(Widow). To: ltshorty05@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1386088618-1192011110=:3321" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <328960.3321.qm@web63301.mail.re1.yahoo.com> --0-1386088618-1192011110=:3321 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From:Evangelist Lindy Mike(Widow). Calvary greetings in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, I am Evangelist Lindy Mike, The daughter of Late Sherrif Kindimbu from Weste Africa Nigeria.I am 34years old,my mother is From England,while my father is from Nigeria,i am an halfcast (White Girl) i was married to Late John Mike from England, i am now a new christian convert,suffering from long time concer problem. From all indications, my condition is serious and according to my late husband doctor it is quite obvious that i may not survive the sickness,as a christian,i beleived God and i know that i will not die,i will leave to declare the glory of God, My late Husband Mr.John Mike is From England,he and my only son was killed by his family members,because he does not agree with them, i am presently leaving alone.Our Lord Jesus Christ is my comforter. Before the death of my husband,he told me on his sick bed that he deposited some money with the United Bank for Africa plc(UBA) in Nigeria, the sum of Fifteen Million Five Hundred Thousand Dollars (Usd$15.5M).After disclosing this secret to me,he gave me the Documents he used in Depositing the fund called Certificate of Deposit,he never wanted to tell me about it until the present moment that he was about to die,he told me that his reason for telling me about this fund secretly is because after his death that he knows his family will not allow me to inherit any of his wealth or property. He told me that Nigerian Government will not allow me to make this claim since i am a citizen of Nigeria,my husband told me that i can only get the fund claimed through the help of a foreigner like you,and that was exactly what happened,I made up my mind to travel abroad to leave the rest of my life and continue to do the work of God as a missionary,I called my late husband lawyer to find out if the fund is still in contact in that bank, to enable me raise some money to continue my mission,to my greatest surprise it was still in contact. Presently,all the Documents concerning the FUND are with me, now that my sickness has gone to this stage,I am scared and I want the fund to be used for the work of God all over the world,i have prayed and told God to direct me to an honest christian who will receive this fund and utilise it together with me and for things that will glorify the name of God,after my prayers,I decided to contacted you alone my beloved in Christ. Please I will appreciate that you send the following information to enable my late Husband Lawyer commence with the procuring of the necessary document that will back you up as next of kin to my late Husband for immediate arrangement with the UNITED BANK FOR AFRICA UBA Plc on how the Fund Fifteen Million Five Hundred Thousand Dollars (Usd$15.5M) will be claimed by you on my Late Husbands Behalf as his Next of Kin and New Beneficiary. 1. your full name. 2. Your contact address. 3. Your telephone/fax numbers for prompt communication. I await to here your urgent reply. Thanks and God bless you. Evangelist Lindy Mike(Widow). --------------------------------- ¹ïYahoo! Mail ¦³¥ô¦ó·N¨£©Î«Øij¡A½Ð Ápµ¸§Ú­Ì --0-1386088618-1192011110=:3321 Content-Type: text/html; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    From:Evangelist Lindy Mike(Widow).
     
    Calvary greetings in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, I am Evangelist Lindy Mike, The daughter of Late Sherrif Kindimbu from Weste Africa Nigeria.I am 34years old,my mother is From England,while my father is from Nigeria,i am an halfcast (White Girl) i was married to Late John Mike from England, i am now a new christian convert,suffering from long time concer problem.
     
    From all indications, my condition is serious and according to my late husband doctor it is quite obvious that i may not survive the sickness,as a christian,i beleived God and i know that i will not die,i will leave to declare the glory of God, My late Husband Mr.John Mike is From England,he and my only son was killed by his family members,because he does not agree with them, i am presently leaving alone.Our Lord Jesus Christ is my comforter.
     
    Before the death of my husband,he told me on his sick bed that he deposited some money with the United Bank for Africa plc(UBA) in Nigeria, the sum of Fifteen Million Five Hundred Thousand Dollars (Usd$15.5M).After disclosing this secret to me,he gave me the Documents he used in Depositing the fund called Certificate of Deposit,he never wanted to tell me about it until the present moment that he was about to die,he told me that his reason for telling me about this fund secretly is because after his death that he knows his family will not allow me to inherit any of his wealth or property.
     
    He told me that Nigerian Government will not allow me to make this claim since i am a citizen of Nigeria,my husband told me that i can only get the fund claimed through the help of a foreigner like you,and that was exactly what happened,I made up my mind to travel abroad to leave the rest of my life and continue to do the work of God as a missionary,I called my late husband lawyer to find out if the fund is still in contact in that bank, to enable me raise some money to continue my mission,to my greatest surprise it was still in contact.
     
    Presently,all the Documents concerning the FUND are with me, now that my sickness has gone to this stage,I am scared and I want the fund to be used for the work of God all over the world,i have prayed and told God to direct me to an honest christian who will receive this fund and utilise it together with me and for things that will glorify the name of God,after my prayers,I decided to contacted you alone my beloved in Christ.
     
    Please I will appreciate that you send the following information to enable my late Husband Lawyer commence with the procuring of the necessary document that will  back you up as next of kin to my late Husband for immediate arrangement with the UNITED BANK FOR AFRICA UBA Plc on how the Fund Fifteen Million Five Hundred Thousand Dollars (Usd$15.5M) will be claimed by you on my Late Husbands Behalf as his Next of Kin and New Beneficiary.
    1. your full name.
    2. Your contact address.
    3. Your telephone/fax numbers for prompt communication.
     
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    Thanks and God bless you.
     
    Evangelist Lindy Mike(Widow).

    ¹ïYahoo! Mail ¦³¥ô¦ó·N¨£©Î«Øij¡A½Ð Ápµ¸§Ú­Ì --0-1386088618-1192011110=:3321-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 14:16:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B9EE3BED2; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:16:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <60646.72.51.110.167.1192025794.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BC3B@keel.sailpoint.com> References: <61999.72.51.110.167.1191960231.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BC3B@keel.sailpoint.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:16:34 -0400 (AST) Subject: RE: Mobius Multiply Help From: "Andre' Donawa" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:16:28 +0000 (UTC) Hi Peter and Jeff, Thanks for the help I tried both of your suggestions but still no luck. Here's what I'm trying to do. 1. Record a short percussive loop. 2. Overdub it. 3. Extend the loop by hitting multiply to record a longer loop and then hit multiply again to play it. I'm only using one track. I've tried some different configs but no luck. With the EDP, when ever I press multiply again the extended loop starts playing immediately. What happens right now is there is a pause before the loop starts and when it does start some of what I was recording is missing. Here's my current config. Quantize Mode: Cycle Rec Mode: Toggle Overdub Mode: Toggle Multiply Mode: Traditional Switch Quantize: Off Round Mode: Checked Am I not using Mobius in the right way? Is there a better way to use it? Are there any places where I could find some preset configs and how people are using them? Thanks, Andre On Tue, October 9, 2007 4:57 pm, Jeff Larson wrote: > >> I'm trying to use multiply in the same basic way as with the EDP. >> Sometimes it works OK other times I get a gap in what I thought I was >> recording. > > Check the preset and make sure you have "Round Mode" checked. This is > a confusingly named parameter that means "record during rounding". If > this is off, recording will stop the moment you press the closing > multiply even though the multiply will continue to round up until > a full cycle is added. > > Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 14:42:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 14F533BED0; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:42:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <60886.72.51.110.167.1192027354.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BC3B@keel.sailpoint.com> References: <61999.72.51.110.167.1191960231.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BC3B@keel.sailpoint.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:42:34 -0400 (AST) Subject: RE: Mobius Multiply Help From: "Andre' Donawa" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:42:27 +0000 (UTC) Ok, I think I've got it. If I keep playing after I've pressed multiply for the second time it records the ending and the beginning of what I played during the multiply stage. If I don't keep playing the beginning and ending are missing. Is this one of those differences between mobius and EDP? Andre On Tue, October 9, 2007 4:57 pm, Jeff Larson wrote: > >> I'm trying to use multiply in the same basic way as with the EDP. >> Sometimes it works OK other times I get a gap in what I thought I was >> recording. > > Check the preset and make sure you have "Round Mode" checked. This is > a confusingly named parameter that means "record during rounding". If > this is off, recording will stop the moment you press the closing > multiply even though the multiply will continue to round up until > a full cycle is added. > > Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 16:28:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 085313BECA; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:28:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Ninja-PIM: Scanned by Ninja X-Ninja-AttachmentFiltering: (no action) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Mobius Multiply Help Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:27:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BD61@keel.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <60646.72.51.110.167.1192025794.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Thread-Topic: Mobius Multiply Help thread-index: AcgLSCeJa0gk+7F8S3WOkkD3kKwwlgAEi0vg References: <61999.72.51.110.167.1191960231.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BC3B@keel.sailpoint.com> <60646.72.51.110.167.1192025794.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> From: "Jeff Larson" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:28:01 +0000 (UTC) > 1. Record a short percussive loop. > 2. Overdub it. > 3. Extend the loop by hitting multiply to record a longer loop and then > hit multiply again to play it. >=20 > With the EDP, when ever I press multiply again the extended loop starts > playing immediately. When you use quantization, there will usually be a delay between when you press a button and when the function actually happens. Mobius=20 won't start playing the extended loop immediately from the beginning if you end the multiply before the end of the cycle, it will continue until the end of the cycle. I'm fairly certain the EDP works the same way. Here is an example: - quantizization is Cycle - record a loop of 4 seconds - near second 2 press Multiply - you will not enter multiply mode until you reach the end of the loop at second 4, anything you overdub during this period is lost - at second 4 the loop is extended one cycle, it is now 8 seconds long, you may begin overdubbing - at second 6 press Multiply=20 - the multiply will continue until second 8 because the ending has been quantized to the end of the second cycle If you want to begin overdubbing immediately after you press Multiply, you should turn Quantize off. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 16:37:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAAEE3BEC2; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:37:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Ninja-PIM: Scanned by Ninja X-Ninja-AttachmentFiltering: (no action) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Mobius Multiply Help Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 11:37:28 -0500 Message-ID: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BD65@keel.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <60886.72.51.110.167.1192027354.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Thread-Topic: Mobius Multiply Help thread-index: AcgLS8lpC5oWD+hxRruumnH2j0ytcAADr0iw References: <61999.72.51.110.167.1191960231.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BC3B@keel.sailpoint.com> <60886.72.51.110.167.1192027354.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> From: "Jeff Larson" To: Resent-Message-ID: <-42id.A.Z9C.O_PDHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:37:34 +0000 (UTC) > I think I've got it. > If I keep playing after I've pressed multiply for the second time it > records the ending and the beginning of what I played during the multiply > stage. > If I don't keep playing the beginning and ending are missing. As far as I know there is nothing that would cause the beginning of a multiply to be lost if you just stop playing in the middle of the cycle. This still sounds like quantization. When you press Multiply look at the Mobius window and look at the little white triangles that show where the Multiply will start and end. You will only be overdubbing when the large word "Multiply" appears on the screen. If you are losing something you played while the large Multiply is on the screen, and you are not doing something that sets the input level to zero, then there may be a bug. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 16:59:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C15953BED2; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:59:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <00e701c80b0a$77c99fe0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Subject: RE: FRUSTRATED Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:59:43 +0200 Message-ID: <004301c80b5e$f4bfa1d0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcgLXTZFCDnvjBUJSyemtNT41uKPpQAAW7FA In-Reply-To: <00e701c80b0a$77c99fe0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:59:48 +0000 (UTC) I think the ":" simply truncates the message headers in the digest, just as the "/" truncates them. Try sending a message with a subject that contains a "/" - the digest will only display whatever comes before (or after?) the "/" character. Your original message header carrying the "way off topic" was still contained in the msg. -Michael P From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 17:22:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53FA43BED6; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:22:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 536 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:22:14 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BD65@keel.sailpoint.com> References: <61999.72.51.110.167.1191960231.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BC3B@keel.sailpoint.com> <60886.72.51.110.167.1192027354.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BD65@keel.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2B817E1B-CE90-4395-84C4-6736DD3D2516@ubergadget.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: Mobius Multiply Help / Mobius curiosity after SO long now Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:13:15 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <9UNYYD.A.FEF.HpQDHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:22:15 +0000 (UTC) *Admittedly*, I have *not* kept up *at all* w/ the subject of Mobius, and now, am curious about it since it gets discussed so much. That has finally tweaked my curiosity. What exactly is it, and how does it work, and is it software, and if so, will it work for a Mac? (OR....?) Also, I previously tried to google it as "mobius" and everything else under the virtual-Sun came up but nothing that I could tell was a link to this particular "Mobius" being discussed on LD. NOTE: It is NOT necessary for a barrage of list-posted replies to me, puh-leeze!!! One or 2 PRIVATE replies will suffice. I don't wanna be adding any additional unnecessary clutter to the LD list. TIA! "Towards the alien..." (Arthur Brown) -Rev. Fever From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 17:53:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32F493BECF; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:53:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <60754.72.51.110.167.1192038834.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BD65@keel.sailpoint.com> References: <61999.72.51.110.167.1191960231.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BC3B@keel.sailpoint.com> <60886.72.51.110.167.1192027354.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BD65@keel.sailpoint.com> Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:53:54 -0400 (AST) Subject: RE: Mobius Multiply Help From: "Andre' Donawa" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:53:47 +0000 (UTC) I've turned off the quantize function and I'm getting an extra cycle of recorded silence now. The white triangle says Multiply End. Andre On Wed, October 10, 2007 12:37 pm, Jeff Larson wrote: > >> I think I've got it. >> If I keep playing after I've pressed multiply for the second time it >> records the ending and the beginning of what I played during the > multiply >> stage. >> If I don't keep playing the beginning and ending are missing. > > As far as I know there is nothing that would cause the beginning of a > multiply to be lost if you just stop playing in the middle of the cycle. > This still sounds like quantization. When you press Multiply look at > the Mobius window and look at the little white triangles that show > where the Multiply will start and end. You will only be overdubbing > when the large word "Multiply" appears on the screen. > > If you are losing something you played while the large Multiply > is on the screen, and you are not doing something that sets the > input level to zero, then there may be a bug. > > Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 18:17:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FC6D3BED9; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=Foqdt8ocLWKk4MFTI7p6T3mcrgCWdhKzvmBGgteRHTU=; b=gFU5HdqTxI+cuycHuDEAF/CBWTDImNlf7xuowivadBSF4qFRfDa22NVAF43Wb8CEIBMl2gwKuf2hiS3Jp7SBWhKJ2iR62ceqVLCxN6BZWrIfM4oNK0oB8fx/ia8K/OU3DTvXFguJQy0eB9MXhVOJNLmwldBiVP7dnYUGXify+94= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=XcvROVR7EI9BhHuFvCSkTwBrdwUwOjSwf30l4t4cOn45M20l+tVuZ4lnFEoQ/tLrrPzCLdrVadiF0cil3QEShtAwo7wfbX9daJCwMAPFO79kYIhdY3WljXoNZetNp9QDU3PKf+DsIT9ftEaCzUykuRL8i8N0aqNP9PhkKF4d1Uo= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <2B817E1B-CE90-4395-84C4-6736DD3D2516@ubergadget.com> References: <61999.72.51.110.167.1191960231.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BC3B@keel.sailpoint.com> <60886.72.51.110.167.1192027354.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BD65@keel.sailpoint.com> <2B817E1B-CE90-4395-84C4-6736DD3D2516@ubergadget.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Mobius Multiply Help / Mobius curiosity after SO long now Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:17:04 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <88RC1D.A.lwH.ocRDHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:17:13 +0000 (UTC) On 10 okt 2007, at 19.13, Rev Fever wrote: > What exactly is it////// > I don't wanna be adding any additional unnecessary clutter to the > LD list. Ok, then. Anyone interested can check here: http://www.zonemobius.com/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 19:21:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 297C83BECD; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:21:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <61999.72.51.110.167.1191960231.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BC3B@keel.sailpoint.com> <60886.72.51.110.167.1192027354.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BD65@keel.sailpoint.com> <2B817E1B-CE90-4395-84C4-6736DD3D2516@ubergadget.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1755D63F-F6A9-489B-B11D-397F36754FF0@ubergadget.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: Mobius Multiply Help / Mobius curiosity after SO long now /flickr Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 12:21:33 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <9hfwZ.A.JqC.KZSDHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:21:47 +0000 (UTC) Thanx for the replies I have received. I have now what I needed to know, so no one else need bother w/ responding. Thanx! -Rev. Fever PS-BTW, I recently posted my pic to the flickr group. But, it is listed as "revfev" instead of "Rev. Fever", in case anyone has not already figured that out. A boo-boo on my part name-wise, but now ya know. On Oct 10, 2007, at 11:17 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > On 10 okt 2007, at 19.13, Rev Fever wrote: > >> What exactly is it////// >> I don't wanna be adding any additional unnecessary clutter to the >> LD list. > > > Ok, then. Anyone interested can check here: http://www.zonemobius.com/ > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 10 23:14:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF0263BED3; Wed, 10 Oct 2007 23:14:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,256,1188741600"; d="scan'208,217";a="78074904" Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C80B93.2BCE4B2F" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: RE: Boomerang/NEW TOPIC - GUITAR RIG 3 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:13:30 +1000 Message-ID: <9C151BE24B28B54D870B5F89BD87EBCE9BDED4@aaunsw745.au.cbainet.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Boomerang/NEW TOPIC - GUITAR RIG 3 Thread-Index: AcgJsh8Gf4Ho1CIBQGGq2NYlZX9CTAB4M79Q From: "Sowonja, Tomson" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Oct 2007 23:13:38.0041 (UTC) FILETIME=[3069FE90:01C80B93] Resent-Message-ID: <24ABcD.A.dz.4yVDHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 23:14:00 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C80B93.2BCE4B2F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the info!=20 =20 I like the look of the 'rang given my proclivity for guitar styled pedals and their use but was waiting for the next version. =20 I've also looked at Guitar Rig for my home recording set up - anyone have experience with the looper bundled as part of Guitar Rig, and what do people think of Guitar Rig 3?=20 =20 Cheers Tom ________________________________ From: Nemoguitt@aol.com [mailto:Nemoguitt@aol.com]=20 Sent: Monday, 8 October 2007 11:50 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang In a message dated 10/8/07 12:22:02 AM, tomson.sowonja@cba.com.au writes: Boomerang 3 =09 tom.....mike nelson sent me some paper to pass out at y2k7 about the RANG III and the CHORUS*DELAY PEDAL (E-155).....it said something like an end of year DEC 07 RANG release, but you know how those predictions work out, the (E-155) max delay 2 seconds, is shipping now.....a small blurb on the RANG III used the "M" word, "the initial release may not have MIDI, but it will be added as quickly as possible and upgrading is possible via the internet. THERE will be no USB connectivity nor permanet loop storage.".....i'm just a friendly messanger and know nothing about nothing.....:).....i do know that i really want to get my hands on that puppy.....mike nelson and company are burried with the release of the CHORUS*DELAY PEDAL so i would suggest being patient about the RANG for now.....i told him he had better pick up the pace, or else!.....:).....michael "Who needs a six pac when ya got a keg!".....scoots galore "THOUGHTS ON EXCERCISE" www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com=20 ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE ***************************** =20 This e-mail message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains info= rmation which may be confidential.=20 If you are not the intended recipient please advise the sender by return em= ail, do not use or disclose the contents, and delete the message and any attachments from your= system. 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    Thanks for the info!
     
    I like the look of the 'rang given my proclivity f= or guitar=20 styled pedals and their use but was waiting for the next=20 version.
     
    I've also looked at Guitar Rig for my home recordi= ng set up=20 - anyone have experience with the looper bundled as part of Guitar Rig, and= what=20 do people think of Guitar Rig 3?
     
    Cheers
    Tom

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    tom.....mike nelson sent me s= ome paper=20 to pass out at y2k7 about the RANG III and the CHORUS*DELAY PEDAL (E-155)..= .=2E.it=20 said something like an end of year DEC 07  RANG release, but you know = how=20 those predictions work out, the (E-155) max delay 2 seconds, is shipping=20 now.....a small blurb on the RANG III used the "M" word, "the initial relea= se=20 may not have MIDI, but it will be added as quickly as possible and upgradin= g is=20 possible via the internet. THERE will be no USB connectivity nor permanet l= oop=20 storage.".....i'm just a friendly messanger and know nothing about=20 nothing.....:).....i do know that i really want to get my hands on that=20 puppy.....mike nelson and company are burried with the release of the=20 CHORUS*DELAY PEDAL so i would suggest being patient about the RANG for now.= .=2E..i=20 told him he had better pick up the pace, or=20 else!.....:).....michael




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    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C80B93.2BCE4B2F-- From senatehousehd@poczta.onet.pl Thu Oct 11 00:38:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 337 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:38:21 UTC Received: from smtp1.poczta.onet.pl (smtp1.poczta.onet.pl [213.180.130.31]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012F13BEB8; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 00:38:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.128.10.99] ([82.128.10.99]:4843 "EHLO mail.com" rhost-flags-FAIL-FAIL-OK-FAIL) by ps1.test.onet.pl with ESMTPA id S738549966AbXJKA2jXtJka (ORCPT + 3 others); Thu, 11 Oct 2007 02:28:39 +0200 Reply-To: From: " SENATE HOUSE NIGERIA" Subject: Re: Immediate contract/inheritance payment via atm card. Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:27:56 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: To: unlisted-recipients: ;(no To-header on input)
    OFFICE OF THE SENATE HOUSE
    FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF NIGERIA
    COMMITTEE ON FOREIGN PAYMENT
    (RESOLUTIONPANEL ON CONTRACT PAYMENT)
    IKOYI-LAGOS NIGERIA
                                                                                                                                        FILE CODE #: ATM/LAG/NG
    ATTN: BENEFICIARY,
    IMMEDIATE RELEASE OF YOUR INHERITANCE FUND VIA ATM SWIFT CARD.
    In close consultation with the World Bank, IMF and the European Union (EU), this is to notify you of your enlistment as a beneficiary of a recent Debt Management and Settlement Forum organized on the status of global arrangement to have your beneficiary fund settled once and for all. Of course, In the hope that you must have been aware of the past financial leakages in the European foreign inheritance payment system, and frustrations associated there from in your last attempt to claim the fund, wherein fund beneficiaries (like your self) was subjected to unnecessary bureaucratic bottlenecks in lieu of claiming funds due them. The World Body,
    having solicited and received the cooperation of Nigerian Presidency, in harmonizing the sequence of payments, have discovered from records of outstanding foreign inheritance fund beneficiaries due them, that your name and payment has been with held and remain unpaid as a result of such bottleneck. On the prompting of this finding, I wish to officially notify you that all aspects of your payment claim is being harmonized, enabling payment to be released to you as urgently as you act on the instructions of this mail.
    Consequently, Afribank Nigeria Plc has been directed by the World Body to off set these outstanding debts, using ATM Swift Card payment arrangement. Already, a total amount of US$500 Million has been provided to the bank for this purpose and it is on first come first serve. With this arrangement, I wish to inform you that Afribank Nigeria Plc has been instructed to issue in your name an ATM Cash Card with the valued amount of US$5.5M. In paying this amount to you, please note that it is without Prejudice to your original inheritance sum. Rather, it is a stop-gap payment arrangement put in place by the World Body to on the one hand ensure that you receive part of your fund, while on the other hand en
    However, we are worried with the counter information received from one Mr. Jack Law, purporting to be from your directive, with express instruction to activate the ATM Cash Card for release of fund to his name a bank account in the "Cayman Islands" Obviously, we are hesitant to honor this instruction as it were, and would request that you clarify same upon your contact with Afribank Nigeria Plc . In addition to that, you should provide the bank with the following details to forestall any mistake of issuing the ATM Card with the wrong information already submitted by Mr. Jack Law:
    (1) Your full names, address, phone, fax and Cell numbers (up to date) for ease of contact
    (2) Beneficiary name for activation of your ATM CARD.
    Believing that this arrangement will suit your condition and expectations, we will therefore request for your expedited response to avoid any more delay. Your response should be directed to Afribank Nigeria Plc , Attention: Dr. David William ; Director Atm Payment Dept through his official email address: atmpaymentcenternig04@yahoo.fr ,Tel/fax: 234-1-4720582 ,Your file reference code for your payment is ATM/LAG/NG and should be quoted in your contact mail to the bank otherwise the bank will not recognize/process your ATM SwiftSenator David Mark
    New Senate President Federal Republic OF Nigeria
    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 01:18:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FB233BED2; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:18:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20071010160626.02e84b70@mail.onemodelplace.com> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:21:31 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: On vs off topic -and- irritating people... In-Reply-To: <2B817E1B-CE90-4395-84C4-6736DD3D2516@ubergadget.com> References: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BD65@keel.sailpoint.com> <61999.72.51.110.167.1191960231.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BC3B@keel.sailpoint.com> <60886.72.51.110.167.1192027354.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BD65@keel.sailpoint.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-4359337D Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:18:18 +0000 (UTC) Hi All, First off, let me apologize for my recent OT musings. :) Secondly, I'd like to agree with Rick in this regard, that I *personally* feel that having a second list for 'Looper's Delight' posts is not only annoying but to me at least, against the nature of the list the way it was started. To my knowledge, this has never been simply a 'gear' list, and God, I hope it never becomes just that. :) I'd be out of here so damned fast it wouldn't even be funny! lol! Unfortunately, because of the second list, and all of the 'walking on egg shells' sort of behavior going on right now over off / on topic posts, I feel that this is where the list seems to be heading?... yes?... I'm not saying that people are necessarily intending this, but it seems that this is starting to happen... At the very least, the list is losing something for me. Now, this is fine if this is really what people are after, and I'm far from one to be commenting as I've been out of the looping scene for a while, and honestly, am not exactly super turned on about it at the moment! :) But this sort of over-zealous (super PC) idea of monitoring the nature of people's posting habits in essence :) (tongue / cheek) to eliminate all 'off topic imperfection / impurity' (pick yer poison) is just distasteful to me personally. If I wanted to join a tight-assed gear forum I would have. :) Now, please believe me when I say that I absolutely hate getting barraged with a load of email chattiness every day that isn't related, from one msg to the next, and has nothing at all to do with any topic; I simply don't have the time that I'm willing to spend, nor desire to deal with such. However, (And I say this coming from a place of posting plenty of on *and* off topic material! lol!) (1) I have a delete key and I know how to use it! :) (2) Even at it's worst, that's not the sort of thing that's been going on here. Everyone has been really good about bringing things back on track when they stray, and each list member who posts usually has a balance of on / 'off' topic material. If someone doesn't bring a topic in a direction that someone else likes, that someone may say something. Then, the topic may change. If more people want to hear the topic the way it was, then it won't. The community monitors itself, whether that happens within a poster or within several, but it *does* happen, and has done such for as long as I've been a member here. That's the nature of a self-regulating community! Yes?... Was this not how the list was started?... So now, once again, I personally would rather have the LD OT posts go to this list, but as my point above works both ways, I also do understand if a majority of people would rather this not be the case. And obviously, as I myself have mentioned, if people want another list, then guess what not only is it already there, lol! but it's their choice! :) However, I would wonder if it might not be appropriate to either (1) have it not be affiliated with LD? (and have it be it's own general chat list) (2) have it be more closely affiliated with LD, so it would be easier to integrate both lists?... I.E. be hosted on the same list serve and be up on the LD site etc... -Any thoughts?... Also, might it simply be possible, rather than having another list for OT posts, might we instead, have the other list to host gear-only posts?... -Or, in essence have that more rigorous topic moderation approach be realized there, rather than here on LD?... Otherwise, I think it would be easier to have one list as has been successful so far to the huge degree that LD has?... I personally enjoy the evolution of topics here, not because I enjoy the volume of email! lol! -because God knows I don't! I've actually left the list several times for just that reason, but the intellect / creativity here really is something special, and that really comes through in so much of what gets posted here, as it transmutes from one line of thinking to another... Does this make sense?... Fragmenting this gradual evolution, by separating it into two exclusive venues, is similar to never having the option to gracefully move between elements of a story or performance, in favor of simply turning off one idea and beginning another immediately, or instantly bringing it in from another source... Does this make sense?... It can be very jarring, and is not a gradual fade!... :) lol!... I'm definitely in favor of people trying to be aware of others needs / desires in their email habits, so do hope that the 'OT' material can be manageable, but I sooo don't want to see the fire leave this list! -Because, whether I myself go or stay, *that* is a *sure* way for me to leave as well... I hope all this made sense and I truly appreciate your time in reading it! :) Have an awesome day / evening, wherever you may be!... Smiles, Cara :) --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: 10/9/2007 4:43 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 02:11:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90E873BECF; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 02:11:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20071010160626.02e84b70@mail.onemodelplace.com> References: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BD65@keel.sailpoint.com> <61999.72.51.110.167.1191960231.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BC3B@keel.sailpoint.com> <60886.72.51.110.167.1192027354.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BD65@keel.sailpoint.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20071010160626.02e84b70@mail.onemodelplace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: On vs off topic -and- irritating people (Other List?) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:11:50 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 02:11:56 +0000 (UTC) Hi Cara, I totally agree, if all we talked about 'round here were knobs and buttons, blinky lights, sample rates and how to get our dingbob FCB1010 MAX/MSP gizmos to make perfect loop fondues I'd have been waaaaaay outta here ten years ago. That's how long I've been here on the list -- actually 11 years this month, come to think of it. Gawd do I feel old . . . but I digress. I have to say I'm a bit puzzled that there is even a mention of "another" pseudo LD list that OT messages might get shuttled off to. It seems I remember that the poll a month or so ago was between having the status quo (leaving damn well enough alone . . . and just having people self-censor a bit . . . or kindly put an "OT" at the beginning of their subject header . . . as has been good enough for over a decade) and going all squirrel nutso and neo-nazi and sending all offending OT posts off to cyberia. I thought the overwhelming talley went with the status quo . . . did it not? What's this talk about a 2nd list? Perhaps I'm a semi-senile old codger and I'm kicking' up a storm in a teapot for nothing. But daaaAAAaagnabit (he says with his best Gabby Hayes imitation) I still plan on posting damn well whatever I feel comes to mind . . . if'n it's music-related even in the remotest sense. Sure, I'll be PO-LITE about it and put an nice big "OH TEE" onnit . . . if it's not strickly loop-related that is.. But I double damn dog dare anyone to chase the free-flow of ideas from this forum (spits expressively for emphasis). Perhaps I have not heretofore followed this silly hair-brained dingus of a thread as well as I mightta oughtta. But You've got my attention now. TaaAAaarnation! Talk of sending all OT posts off to another list . . . well . . . them's fightin' words. Yesseree. Believe it!!!! Who's the low-down, pointy-headed, pea-brained son of a skunk that suggested it? I wanna know. Somebody oughtta poke 'm in the nose. Saddle 'em up boys (an girls) . . . let's ride. Ted Killian On Oct 10, 2007, at 6:21 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: > Hi All, First off, let me apologize for my recent OT musings. :) > Secondly, I'd like to agree with Rick in this regard, that I > *personally* feel that having a second list for 'Looper's Delight' > posts is not only annoying but to me at least, against the nature of > the list the way it was started. To my knowledge, this has never been > simply a 'gear' list, and God, I hope it never becomes just that. :) > I'd be out of here so damned fast it wouldn't even be funny! lol! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 04:59:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A1593BED8; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:59:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "Woz Mail" To: Subject: RE: On vs off topic -and- irritating people (Other List?) Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:59:42 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:59:58 +0000 (UTC) I propose we have a seperate OT list for the emails about the debate about whether to have another OT list! Only kidding :) Cheers Woz -----Original Message----- From: tEd R KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 12:12 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: On vs off topic -and- irritating people (Other List?) Hi Cara, I totally agree, if all we talked about 'round here were knobs and buttons, blinky lights, sample rates and how to get our dingbob FCB1010 MAX/MSP gizmos to make perfect loop fondues I'd have been waaaaaay outta here ten years ago. That's how long I've been here on the list -- actually 11 years this month, come to think of it. Gawd do I feel old . . . but I digress. I have to say I'm a bit puzzled that there is even a mention of "another" pseudo LD list that OT messages might get shuttled off to. It seems I remember that the poll a month or so ago was between having the status quo (leaving damn well enough alone . . . and just having people self-censor a bit . . . or kindly put an "OT" at the beginning of their subject header . . . as has been good enough for over a decade) and going all squirrel nutso and neo-nazi and sending all offending OT posts off to cyberia. I thought the overwhelming talley went with the status quo . . . did it not? What's this talk about a 2nd list? Perhaps I'm a semi-senile old codger and I'm kicking' up a storm in a teapot for nothing. But daaaAAAaagnabit (he says with his best Gabby Hayes imitation) I still plan on posting damn well whatever I feel comes to mind . . . if'n it's music-related even in the remotest sense. Sure, I'll be PO-LITE about it and put an nice big "OH TEE" onnit . . . if it's not strickly loop-related that is.. But I double damn dog dare anyone to chase the free-flow of ideas from this forum (spits expressively for emphasis). Perhaps I have not heretofore followed this silly hair-brained dingus of a thread as well as I mightta oughtta. But You've got my attention now. TaaAAaarnation! Talk of sending all OT posts off to another list . . . well . . . them's fightin' words. Yesseree. Believe it!!!! Who's the low-down, pointy-headed, pea-brained son of a skunk that suggested it? I wanna know. Somebody oughtta poke 'm in the nose. Saddle 'em up boys (an girls) . . . let's ride. Ted Killian On Oct 10, 2007, at 6:21 PM, Cara Quinn wrote: > Hi All, First off, let me apologize for my recent OT musings. :) > Secondly, I'd like to agree with Rick in this regard, that I > *personally* feel that having a second list for 'Looper's Delight' > posts is not only annoying but to me at least, against the nature of > the list the way it was started. To my knowledge, this has never been > simply a 'gear' list, and God, I hope it never becomes just that. :) > I'd be out of here so damned fast it wouldn't even be funny! lol! -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.7/1062 - Release Date: 10/10/2007 5:11 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 05:15:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71D643BED6; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 05:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=cCtsGouSdxOve77dL2/mi260bi8ao8l3I4oMXpDwyqY=; b=itpV0+PVGvc/M0FjSAlCWGhDiYtl4IDwL9I+FjsthDAVbh2NyjSEth81gOktVayFTXM6fT9RDk+/Y+6HxeJB6ZN8Lu/D9KJnSiRPcomM7gATQuHu6FU1pS1tOLdfGhU7yH6uy1GRfzjtqBTxsmsCFo+DfvXMyGZ2vEJnnOdWVzk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Aft33kZaDNLi9qlovotsfxDRK7we5gMenwYpFP6wHwMI/I2qxijAs2J0Dby3fJ1UmHhJpGSo7L8bSfUwyDCQTgyITb0cKAsIltzS+9OY0rYHyeXLFmlcz0Jhq4Cmmu/2T1sld8o0HO6VLzuojXwfVTzQP8TAy/btEqrSfEfpzpg= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:15:25 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: On vs off topic -and- irritating people... In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20071010160626.02e84b70@mail.onemodelplace.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <61999.72.51.110.167.1191960231.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BC3B@keel.sailpoint.com> <60886.72.51.110.167.1192027354.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BD65@keel.sailpoint.com> <2B817E1B-CE90-4395-84C4-6736DD3D2516@ubergadget.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20071010160626.02e84b70@mail.onemodelplace.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 05:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Many years ago, the list was defined as below. It used to be that if things got nasty or persistently off-topic (guitar-centric posts for example), Kim [the list owner who pays for all this, since it does cost money] would offer a sometimes pointed reminder. Lately he appears to have taken a much more laissez faire attitude, and several of the guidelines below are routinely ignored (plain text posts, judicious editing of responses, etc.). TH -------------------------------- What is the Looper's Delight Mailing list? What types of things are discussed on it? Loopers Delight is a forum for discussing loops and loop based music. For posting, make sure you send to Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com. There isn't much that is considered off-topic, but it should somehow relate to looping if you don't want to irritate people. Past, present and future topics include looping devices and setups (Oberheim Echoplex, Lexicon Jam Man and Vortex, Boomerang, samplers, MIDI, effects, mixers, speakers, etc). We've also had threads about improvisation, creativity, books, recordings, computers, Torn, Fripp, Eno , DJs, ambient, industrial, minimalist music, hip hop, drum and bass, Indian Classical music, sequencing, looping theory and philosophy, etc., etc. You name it, we've probably discussed it. Are there posting guidelines for the Looper's Delight Mailing list? Please set your mail program to use plain text when posting to Looper's Delight. Posts formatted in HTML or rich text are annoying on mailing lists, since not everybody can see those. They also use up many times more bandwidth and disk space than plain text emails. Do not attach any files to your posts, as most people don't like getting file attachments from lists. This also includes those inane vcard things, background image graphics, audio files, etc. None of this junk is necessary for conveying your message anyway. When replying to another list post, please try to edit judiciously the previous poster's message that you are replying to. Don't leave the entire thing on there, as that is a waste of bandwidth, disk space, and time for everybody on the list. Please use a reply style that clearly shows which is your new text and which is the old text you are replying to. The traditional method of placing a > in front of previous text is perfect for this, and most email programs have a setting to do this automatically. Also, replies are set to automatically go back to the list, so please check the address if you want to reply to somebody privately. On 10/10/07, Cara Quinn wrote: > > > Hi All, First off, let me apologize for my recent OT musings. > :) Secondly, I'd like to agree with Rick in this regard, that I > *personally* feel that having a second list for 'Looper's Delight' posts is > not only annoying but to me at least, against the nature of the list the > way it was started. To my knowledge, this has never been simply a 'gear' > list, and God, I hope it never becomes just that. :) I'd be out of here > so damned fast it wouldn't even be funny! lol! > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 05:54:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F3E83BED6; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 05:54:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002f01c80bcb$301b6ef0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: test\/tset Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 22:54:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 05:54:13 +0000 (UTC) I'm testing Michael Peters supposition that the daily digest eliminates anything before or after the "/" sign. I'll see tomorrow whether I get this: test\ or this: t This is to help us develop a protocall for posting OT information in a way so that daily digest readers can see the "OT" sign. A queery, Michael (because I"m brain dead from this festival business right now): Is there a way, do you think, where I can post an OT that had the subject in the daily digest header? I'm using Outlook Express and when you cursor over the Daily Digest there is a little paper clip symbol that shows up at the bottom of the page which allows you to see what the contents of the daily digest is. It is there that I wasn't able to see my OT in my original post. It suddenly occurs to me that it is probably Outlook Express's bad coding and not the Daily Digest protocal which makes this happen but I"m keen to suss it out, one way or another. Thanks for bearing with me. Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 07:16:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 395123BED0; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:16:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=qSjkj+cwCV02Ci4yGx74IOwLAoXFyBJZOJeDG2WlFzo=; b=QC3O6qLuVi6keBhfWSB6yB1Fr+Fs7B1QhYdZoAvGvzqfP8ze4XRdNdKpYYknHnaliOm70Fqc17BGwB8ZnPilY7QRMWhPvlRrVLDRyp9NsU/3E6auCx54AJViVfvNtMwT/K4ASe1YQevvX8Wj1kVsJVRcgPQo9Lk5TR1pp/aj7P4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=QOe+s/pdpMDZfX6YyeMPo0xsX0JATImPPBcyz0Ec180BipSYk1QFRa9TVcPBRribmQzVtURTfZceB/MQAzPStyN+BA3ru18gGLiqFQOu6E20yakjAf+YOijDrDlUFvq5PBuVjd4DnayLXxQCo2Pw0hEN6KdyNa/S2IbjojR5oyo= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <61999.72.51.110.167.1191960231.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BC3B@keel.sailpoint.com> <60886.72.51.110.167.1192027354.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BD65@keel.sailpoint.com> <2B817E1B-CE90-4395-84C4-6736DD3D2516@ubergadget.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20071010160626.02e84b70@mail.onemodelplace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1707933A-7BEC-4B5B-BD18-011132F648B9@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: On vs off topic -and- irritating people... Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:16:31 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:16:38 +0000 (UTC) Just a reminder of what initially kicked off this discussion, since no one have so far mentioned that in this new thread. It was about making life a little easier for those who struggle with a digest version of the list. In the digest version many letters are baked into one super letter, which means the user can not use normal e-mail filtering. Especially problematic for digest reading is when someone quotes way too much and out of context. But people, please don't stop quoting now! Intelligent quoting makes reading a lot easier and is generally regarded as good mailing list manners. When replying, you should keep just as much of the old text needed for a new reader to get the background to your own reply. Drag with mouse button held down to mark text that you want to quote, hit Reply, type something and finally hit Send. Thank you, Travis, for posting the list rules to the list. It just dawned on me that I have never seen those on the list and that's bad. Most lists have an automatic function that posts the general list rules once a month to the list, just as a reminder. The "mysterious LDOT list" is not associated with this list in any way other than that it was crated as a private initiative by a member of this list and that some more members of this list is subscribing to it. I personally use it to post things like guitar amp reviews, funny stories or whatever not looping oriented. As for Cara's wish of having it all on this list I would like to suggest a way to make that happen in your own praxis; simply subscribe to the other list and set you mail application to dump those mails into the same box as the LD list. You don't even have to know to which list a single message belongs - hit reply and it goes back through the same "list channel" where it came in. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 08:29:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78B473BED9; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:29:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3600 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:29:15 UTC X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] Message-ID: <003601c80bd8$73b592a0$4001a8c0@mini> From: "Claude Voit" To: Subject: conversations threading IMPORTANT Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:29:25 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 08:29:16 +0000 (UTC) One thing that almost nobody cares of is the threading behaviour that is included in the Email system we use for our brilliant conversations somewhere in the message header are some nb/codes that make the conversation tree understandable by the email client and organizes the display in our respective mail client. SO when you take the last message you recieved and just delete the text and subjects and then enter your fantastic new subject about whatever, you still continue the same old conversation because the threading code is still the same and doesnt care you changed subject from apples to terrorism. the reason I'm complaining is this fucks up the archive and burries great conversations in obscure subjects and vice-versa SO PLEASE DONT BE LAZY offer a NEW subject/thread to our admiration by hitting CONTROL+N (mac command+N) and enter the LD adress and your amazing new header Claude www.claudevoit.ch www.myspace.com/claudevoit www.guitare-nyon.ch From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 09:26:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 783BD3BED0; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:26:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=iuNem1LJMQUf+aqBeJCgPs+p1qbs/Y0Yeili6jH9nTs=; b=QJX1fA4SMPErJG+Umpgw3YK91UIgnm4mVkDUJawocAt7S0wcqysIW7qaxtPF88LMMIuHuiTdGL/44W60+AyHaubAGDDwPLg2xGNy8dhDs+kvp6mQCowmz5ybd9eiBV0dcz978rIpEJQEWqF1N6LGwyKf5Q0D2HsUxsb0cZRVUDQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=pyF4WBDQeti5tzvGeXINHamrEHjJoDTbt6nbwIQ/MKIuPnQWyzM+uz7S7LWCTA2hy2vAbWedlu5KKs5lNY6De5xgOPFVeD2sq/VVlXUKBJiYuxBq+BWnfsg1OuPIwFhpwPck5fRFCFFd8YHSqbyVZcdzkY6YWuSxs08a1Y/H48g= In-Reply-To: <003601c80bd8$73b592a0$4001a8c0@mini> References: <003601c80bd8$73b592a0$4001a8c0@mini> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <58694CE7-DDBC-4B82-8447-CB391CF71704@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: conversations threading IMPORTANT Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:26:25 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:26:40 +0000 (UTC) On 11 okt 2007, at 09.29, Claude Voit wrote: > somewhere in the message header are some nb/codes that make the > conversation tree understandable by the email client and organizes > the display in our respective mail client. This is something I have not heard of? No email system I have been using works like that (MS Windows Office Outlook, Outlook Express, Eudora, MS Entourage for Mac, Apple Mail, online web browser dependent G-Mail, online web browser PHP system Squirrel). When sorting according to Subject (equalling "thread") the function is based on alphabetical order, leaving out those short abbreviations typically added by the email client, as "Re", "RE", "FW" etc. > SO when you take the last message you recieved and just delete the > text and subjects and then enter your fantastic new subject about > whatever, you still continue the same old conversation because the > threading code is still the same and doesnt care you changed > subject from apples to terrorism. > the reason I'm complaining is this fucks up the archive and burries > great conversations in obscure subjects and vice-versa Ouch... getting that mustn't be fun. I would be interested in hearing about email systems that supports such "nb threading code"? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 11:01:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67D263BEDB; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:01:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] Message-ID: <001401c80bf6$1b2c7d60$4001a8c0@mini> From: "Claude Voit" To: References: <003601c80bd8$73b592a0$4001a8c0@mini> <58694CE7-DDBC-4B82-8447-CB391CF71704@gmail.com> Subject: Re: conversations threading IMPORTANT Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:45:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:01:32 +0000 (UTC) outlook express does this as does the LD archives just look at some of the distorted threads in october: http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200710/threads.html Claude ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:26 AM Subject: Re: conversations threading IMPORTANT > On 11 okt 2007, at 09.29, Claude Voit wrote: > >> somewhere in the message header are some nb/codes that make the >> conversation tree understandable by the email client and organizes >> the display in our respective mail client. > > This is something I have not heard of? No email system I have been > using works like that (MS Windows Office Outlook, Outlook Express, > Eudora, MS Entourage for Mac, Apple Mail, online web browser > dependent G-Mail, online web browser PHP system Squirrel). When > sorting according to Subject (equalling "thread") the function is > based on alphabetical order, leaving out those short abbreviations > typically added by the email client, as "Re", "RE", "FW" etc. > >> SO when you take the last message you recieved and just delete the >> text and subjects and then enter your fantastic new subject about >> whatever, you still continue the same old conversation because the >> threading code is still the same and doesnt care you changed >> subject from apples to terrorism. >> the reason I'm complaining is this fucks up the archive and burries >> great conversations in obscure subjects and vice-versa > > Ouch... getting that mustn't be fun. I would be interested in hearing > about email systems that supports such "nb threading code"? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 13:22:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CDC913BEDA; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:22:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 90207 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:22:43 UTC X-AuditID: 8419fe0f-00000edc000005f0-16-470e23a11d7f X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: test! Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:22:40 +0200 Message-ID: <200710111322.l9BDMfu8008872@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: test! Thread-Index: AcgMBwo1egGl4cm3RN2DpnOvv6Ejcw== From: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2007 13:22:41.0173 (UTC) FILETIME=[CCE30C50:01C80C09] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:22:43 +0000 (UTC) This is a test! Can everybody read this?! =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 14:14:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC5643BED2; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:14:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-AuditID: 8419fe0f-00000ee0000005f0-0b-470e2fde5da5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Newbie! Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:14:53 +0200 Message-ID: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Newbie! Thread-Index: AcgMERgGbGQud9o7Rv6PCpo+3AeuNw== From: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2007 14:14:54.0575 (UTC) FILETIME=[188A3FF0:01C80C11] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:14:56 +0000 (UTC) Hello all! I'm new to the list...and I guess technology in general! I posted a couple of messages and got pretty upset, because no one answered me! Hopefully NO ONE saw my last message! I was unaware that I was posting HTML instead of plain text! Anyway, I was asking about 3 pedals. But I think I know what I'm going to get! I (play) shakuhachi. Right now I run it through a Korg minikp. I was deciding between a Digitech Jamman, a Boss RC-20 Loopstation or a Boss DD-20 Gigadelay. I am going to get the Gigadelay! At first I was intrigued by the lengthy loops available, but after reading reviews, I feel that the loopers are too restricting. If I set a Gigadelay to 100% feedback, then everything I play will get repeated for forever! Unlimited looping! 46 seconds is long enough too! Thanx! david =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 14:18:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1026A3BEDA; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:18:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: HarryEsq@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:18:07 EDT Subject: Re: Newbie! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1192112287" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 15301 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: <_0F_iC.A.aqC.pCjDHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:18:17 +0000 (UTC) -------------------------------1192112287 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David: Looking at your email address I'm assuming you're stationed at an Air Force base in Germany. What kind of playing opportunities do you have there? Are there other like minded souls on base with whom you play? Regards, Harry Weinberg, Esq. 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    -------------------------------1192112287-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 14:24:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC3B93BEDB; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <11970.167.83.10.20.1192112654.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> References: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:24:14 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Newbie! From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32166 32167] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Welcome aboard, David! Shakuhachi? COOOL!! Is there someplace to hear your music? ~peace~ Plish www.michaelplishka.com www.myspace.com/michaelplishka www.myspace.com/bohdanovich > > Hello all! > I'm new to the list...and I guess technology in general! > I posted a couple of messages and got pretty upset, because no one > answered me! Hopefully NO ONE saw my last message! I was unaware that I > was posting HTML instead of plain text! > Anyway, I was asking about 3 pedals. But I think I know what I'm going > to get! > I (play) shakuhachi. Right now I run it through a Korg minikp. I was > deciding between a Digitech Jamman, a Boss RC-20 Loopstation or a Boss > DD-20 Gigadelay. > I am going to get the Gigadelay! > At first I was intrigued by the lengthy loops available, but after > reading reviews, I feel that the loopers are too restricting. > If I set a Gigadelay to 100% feedback, then everything I play will get > repeated for forever! Unlimited looping! 46 seconds is long enough too! > > Thanx! > david > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 14:32:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A4613BED2; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:32:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> References: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--942408982 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Newbie! Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:32:35 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:32:42 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--942408982 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi there! On Oct 11, 2007, at 7:14 AM, Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA wrote: > If I set a Gigadelay to 100% feedback, then everything I play will get > repeated for forever! Unlimited looping! 46 seconds is long enough = too! The DD-20 is something I've frequently used. I've owned up to 3 of them at a time and I still own one. To my knowledge, the maximum delay time is 23 seconds. Unless Boss has upgraded the memory on the things, I suspect it still =20= is. You might want to check, if this is important to you, before you buy. On the other side, it is a useful pedal indeed. Like you said, I too use the Delay Mode at (or near) 100% feedback =20 instead of the Loop Mode. Loop Mode reminded me too much of the RC-20 -- which I owned for less =20= than a week and took right back to Guitar Center for refund/trade-in =20= on another DD-20. Having lops that at least have the possibility of decay and change =20 seems a lot more musically useful and normal. There's my 2 cents. Good luck and welcome aboard. tEd =AE KiLLiAn www.tedkillian.com Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?=20 playListId=3D6378076 Also check out the 1st set of BEMF (Boise Experimental Music Festival) =20= CDs at: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/cd.htm http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?=20 step=3Dview_profile&id=3D1211970 00042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So???=20= --Apple-Mail-1--942408982 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 HelveticaHi there!=20 On Oct 11, 2007, at 7:14 AM, Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA wrote: If I set a Gigadelay to 100% feedback, then everything I play will get repeated for forever! Unlimited looping! 46 seconds is long enough too! The DD-20 is something I've frequently used. I've owned up to 3 of them at a time and I still own one. To my knowledge, the maximum delay time is 23 seconds. Unless Boss has upgraded the memory on the things, I suspect it still is. You might want to check, if this is important to you, before you buy. On the other side, it is a useful pedal indeed. Like you said, I too use the Delay Mode at (or near) 100% feedback instead of the Loop Mode. Loop Mode reminded me too much of the RC-20 -- which I owned for less than a week and took right back to Guitar Center for refund/trade-in on another DD-20. Having lops that at least have the possibility of decay and change seems a lot more musically useful and normal. There's my 2 cents. Good luck and welcome aboard. CouriertEd =AE KiLLiAn www.tedkillian.comHelvetica = CourierFFFF,0C0C,000= 0Different is not always better, but better is always different" =20 7F7F,7A7A,7A7AFlux Aeterna:=20 = http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=3D6= 378076=20 Also check out the 1st set of BEMF (Boise Experimental Music Festival) CDs at:=20 http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/cd.htm=20 =20 http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html=20 http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian=20 http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html=20 http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina=20 http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073=20 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314=20 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193=20 = http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D1211970 00042=20 =20 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes,=20 BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster,=20 AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream,=20 RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks,=20 and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? = = --Apple-Mail-1--942408982-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 14:32:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90A5E3BEE8; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:32:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=jh6W/KPhgXHXOSLnpGWUavB7LboKtJjGY8KlhSznTpM=; b=XezXi23Zl79JrehibOQc2GxV7o6hP9PNHtd3hXmJViTg705vEi7ZVAb7tpVXVXWZaANVl+jufXitAix/CMdDfDrZ2teh/FhQO5Jnm4S9CF1lvhFdqz8corj1A3Lv/+T2a5xn7S7BysRwEO1HGD19vOoC08tb0mPYWSLiiptbPIU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=KAKIhpY6EEp+j5gH95hqq25FYh7rxJKLTO3EmUmGx0jQGKp2xyN07Kw4Yj+3RN4javuovUcXQiWDJ/LkHtiPPk4GOa+mZ6gn5p43a8ZWnvc6TAmPWx1yOkWA+/UMniXRohhaNGhxubAJrcOa2yvNAiBLXlAl4aE+fa3XCqoVt8A= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> References: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1C8768E0-0BE5-4D70-AC16-48AAA4BC2314@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Newbie! Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:32:35 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:32:42 +0000 (UTC) On 11 okt 2007, at 16.14, Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA wrote: > Hello all! > I'm new to the list...and I guess technology in general! > I posted a couple of messages and got pretty upset, because no one > answered me! Welcome to this list then! Please don't feel upset about the lack of answers to your earlier post. Maybe you were simply asking some question too difficult for anyone in here. For example, asking about "advice for a looping device" without giving much background is just as confusing as if someone should enter a store saying "I want to eat - what would be my best buy?" ;-) Shakuhachi has a fine tone, I think. This is the first time I hear abut anyone playing it in looping. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 15:09:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DF8D3BEAB; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:09:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 633018854-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.250.149 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah4FAPLYDUdPQvqV/2dsb2JhbACCKaUb Message-ID: <470E3C90.1090105@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:09:04 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Newbie! References: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> <1C8768E0-0BE5-4D70-AC16-48AAA4BC2314@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1C8768E0-0BE5-4D70-AC16-48AAA4BC2314@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:09:03 +0000 (UTC) > > Shakuhachi has a fine tone, I think. This is the first time I hear abut > anyone playing it in looping. > Rick Walker's ears are burning andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 15:14:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D83773BED9; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:14:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-AuditID: 8419fe0f-00000ec0000005f0-6f-470e3dbf6507 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Newbie! Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:14:06 +0200 Message-ID: <200710111514.l9BFE7u8027150@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> In-Reply-To: <11970.167.83.10.20.1192112654.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Newbie! Thread-Index: AcgMEmvpztbM9iSAQfiqzfR9RpbKZwABaScg References: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> <11970.167.83.10.20.1192112654.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> From: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2007 15:14:07.0036 (UTC) FILETIME=[5DF8C7C0:01C80C19] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:14:08 +0000 (UTC) Well! I don't have any yet! Music that is! Once I get my gigadelay...i hope to start recording! I need to find a good cheap program for that! =20 -----Original Message----- From: mike@michaelplishka.com [mailto:mike@michaelplishka.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 4:24 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Newbie! Welcome aboard, David! Shakuhachi? COOOL!! Is there someplace to hear your music? ~peace~ Plish www.michaelplishka.com www.myspace.com/michaelplishka www.myspace.com/bohdanovich > > Hello all! > I'm new to the list...and I guess technology in general! > I posted a couple of messages and got pretty upset, because no one > answered me! Hopefully NO ONE saw my last message! I was unaware that I > was posting HTML instead of plain text! > Anyway, I was asking about 3 pedals. But I think I know what I'm going > to get! > I (play) shakuhachi. Right now I run it through a Korg minikp. I was > deciding between a Digitech Jamman, a Boss RC-20 Loopstation or a Boss > DD-20 Gigadelay. > I am going to get the Gigadelay! > At first I was intrigued by the lengthy loops available, but after > reading reviews, I feel that the loopers are too restricting. > If I set a Gigadelay to 100% feedback, then everything I play will get > repeated for forever! Unlimited looping! 46 seconds is long enough too! > > Thanx! > david > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 15:23:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9DC5F3BEDD; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Newbie! Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:23:12 +0200 Message-ID: <200710111523.l9BFNDu9029283@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Newbie! Thread-Index: AcgMEZTobLYTJ9OQT06FAhmp7ACIRQAB9kUg References: From: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2007 15:23:12.0766 (UTC) FILETIME=[A34091E0:01C80C1A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Yes, I am a civilian working at Ramstein! I am prior military. Unfortunately I don't know anybody as like minded as me! That is frustrating! I play cd's I like at work and everyone thinks I'm loony! I had to teach myself the shakuhachi because of this reason! Plus I work 2 jobs for logistics purposes and have a beautiful wife and daughter! So my free time is limited, but I'm not complaining too much! david=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: HarryEsq@aol.com [mailto:HarryEsq@aol.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 4:18 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Newbie! David: =20 Looking at your email address I'm assuming you're stationed at an Air Force base in Germany. What kind of playing opportunities do you have there? Are there other like minded souls on base with whom you play? =20 =20 Regards, =20 Harry Weinberg, Esq. Law Offices of Harry Weinberg 11 Beach Street - 8th Floor New York, N.Y. 10013 (212) 989-2908 ________________________________ See what's new at AOL.com = and Make AOL Your Homepage . From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 15:29:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 118A63BEE8; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:29:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Newbie! Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:29:35 +0200 Message-ID: <200710111529.l9BFTau9001241@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> In-Reply-To: <1C8768E0-0BE5-4D70-AC16-48AAA4BC2314@gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Newbie! Thread-Index: AcgME5foZznU1KpuRI+pD3sRnqX1wwAByoOw References: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> <1C8768E0-0BE5-4D70-AC16-48AAA4BC2314@gmail.com> From: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2007 15:29:35.0936 (UTC) FILETIME=[87A3AC00:01C80C1B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:29:37 +0000 (UTC) Thank you, I'm not trying to do anything special! I think I have been looking for a special sound for the past 42 years! I've always loved the simplicity of what eno & fripp did! I know there are some people using the shakuhachi in different ways! David jackman for example! My problem is trying too hard sometimes to make sure I don't sound like somebody else! david =20 -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 4:33 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Newbie! On 11 okt 2007, at 16.14, Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA wrote: > Hello all! > I'm new to the list...and I guess technology in general! > I posted a couple of messages and got pretty upset, because no one > answered me! Welcome to this list then! Please don't feel upset about the lack of =20 answers to your earlier post. Maybe you were simply asking some =20 question too difficult for anyone in here. For example, asking about =20 "advice for a looping device" without giving much background is just =20 as confusing as if someone should enter a store saying "I want to eat =20 - what would be my best buy?" ;-) Shakuhachi has a fine tone, I think. This is the first time I hear =20 abut anyone playing it in looping. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 15:31:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F21813BED9; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:31:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Newbie! Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:31:05 +0200 Message-ID: <200710111531.l9BFV6u9001735@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> In-Reply-To: <470E3C90.1090105@tiscali.co.uk> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Newbie! Thread-Index: AcgMGKvd7hDTjkfGT7mFdm8qGI5AKgAAuHKA References: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> <1C8768E0-0BE5-4D70-AC16-48AAA4BC2314@gmail.com> <470E3C90.1090105@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2007 15:31:06.0263 (UTC) FILETIME=[BD7A7A70:01C80C1B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:31:07 +0000 (UTC) Is Rick Walker on this list? I would love to hear from someone else who is trying to further the realm of the shakuhachi! david =20 -----Original Message----- From: andy butler [mailto:akbutler@tiscali.co.uk]=20 Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 5:09 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Newbie! >=20 > Shakuhachi has a fine tone, I think. This is the first time I hear abut=20 > anyone playing it in looping. >=20 Rick Walker's ears are burning andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 15:40:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 705F43BEF0; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:40:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <6116.167.83.10.20.1192117241.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: <200710111529.l9BFTau9001241@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> References: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> <1C8768E0-0BE5-4D70-AC16-48AAA4BC2314@gmail.com> <200710111529.l9BFTau9001241@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Subject: RE: Newbie! From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32166 32167] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:40:47 +0000 (UTC) > My problem is trying too > hard sometimes to make sure I don't sound like somebody else! > Just try more to sound like yourself and the rest takes care of itself. Regarding mixing, even though I record on a standalone Korg D1200, I mixdown using N-Track. http://www.n-track.com/ It's cheap and does a great job. I also do some finishing with har-bal. http://www.har-bal.com Looking forward to your music! ~peace~ plish From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 15:53:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D60FF3BEDA; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:53:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0b9b01c80c1e$1ccd06d0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Startup Apps for Laptop Loopers - streamline performance, etc Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:47:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0B98_01C80BEB.CEF4D0F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:53:10 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0B98_01C80BEB.CEF4D0F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This topic has been discussed before, but I wanted to share my latest = findings. As you XP computer users know, when Windows starts it loads a = lot of processes, drivers, apps, services, etc that aren't all necessary = all of the time. Many of these use some processing power, but it usually = shows as more of a memory drain if you do a control-alt-delete, go to = Task Manager, and look at the memory usage in the processes tab. For = instance, the main memory hoggers on my ThinkPad are DiskManager, Norton = Anti-Virus, and a few others ThinkPad maintenance apps. In addition, = I've read a number of computer recording articles that suggest that the = wireless network turned on can cause issues on some computers and apps, = causing crashes, clicking, etc. In fact, I experienced this exact issue = with ProTools/mBox a few years ago, where if the wireless network was = on, but could not find an accesspoint, it would cause ProTools to crash. = Bizarre. And I recently read in the max/msp forum that this could cause = clicking with some recording apps and sound cards. Amway, there are a number of methods that folks use to prevent some of = these above mentioned processes and apps from launching at startup. Some = of us, including myself in the past, have used msconfig (you just run = this from Start and Run). You can deselect any of these and prevent them = from running at startup. However, I recently read in some tech forums = that msconfig is recommended primarily for testing, troubleshooting, = etc...not as a permanent solution to altering your startup process. The = claim is that this is not an efficient way to end the processes and does = so incompletely. Then, another tech forum suggests that instead of = msconfig, you should be using "services.msc". It is a more efficient and = clean way to go in and end the processes safely. However, that app is a = little awkward to use. I also recall another solution, that I've tried, = but scares the hell out of me, where you make changes to your startup = process, save your MS registry file (go into Start, Run, and "regedit"), = and do this for your different configurations. Then you load the = registry file you want, and reboot to get that configuration. I don't = recommend this, though it seemed to work. At the time, it did some weird = things to my system like generate duplicate entry lines in my startup = processes. Moreover, I read enough negative comments on these other = methods to disuade me from using them. I am very protective of my = computer and don't like messing with things unless I know it is safe and = stable. Over a year ago, I started using AutoRuns, linked below. It has gained a = lot of attention and is even linked from the Microsoft technet site. You = launch this program and it basically shows you everything that is = running on your system. You can easily de-select what you want, save, = and then when you reboot, those processes do not start. I have had great = luck with this program. Another program is similar, which is ServiWin. = It is so similar, that I just use AutoRuns now. My major complaint about = these two program, however, is that you can't save multiple = configurations (much in the same way that you can't save a msconfig = setting). Rather, if you want to switch back and forth between your = streamlined startup and your normal setup (for web browsing, etc), you = have remember which processes you unchecked in the app, and then = re-uncheck them again, save, and then re-boot. It's sort of a pain, but = the ease of use of AutoRuns in general is enough for me to keep using = it. I only disable 10-15 processes, so I can easily remember which ones. Here are the links to these programs: AutoRuns - = http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Utilities/AutoRuns.mspx ServiWin - http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/serviwin.html So, essentially, the process I use to startup into my music = performance/looping configuration, is that I use AutoRuns to remove = Diskkeeper, anything from Semantic AntiVirus (the main memory/process = hogger), and a handful of ThinkPad apps like the system update manager, = etc. Then I go into my network connections and disable my wireless and = LAN networks. Then I reboot. All is good. I would be curious to know what other folks are using. Has anyone found = an app like AutoRuns that allows you to save multiple configurations? I = actually wrote the developer of AutoRuns requesting this feature, but = the response was that they had no plans for this. It doesn't make sense = to me. It would be so easy to mod that program so that you just load a = new AutoRuns configuration, save, and then reboot. Kris ------=_NextPart_000_0B98_01C80BEB.CEF4D0F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    This topic has been discussed before, = but I wanted=20 to share my latest findings. As you XP computer users know, when Windows = starts=20 it loads a lot of processes, drivers, = apps, services, etc that=20 aren't all necessary all of the time. Many of these use = some processing=20 power, but it usually shows as more of a memory drain if you do a=20 control-alt-delete, go to Task Manager, and look at the memory usage in = the=20 processes tab. For instance, the main memory hoggers on my ThinkPad are=20 DiskManager, Norton Anti-Virus, and a few others ThinkPad maintenance=20 apps.  In addition, I've read a number of computer recording = articles that=20 suggest that the wireless network turned on can cause issues on some = computers=20 and apps, causing crashes, clicking, etc. In fact, I experienced this = exact=20 issue with ProTools/mBox a few years ago, where if the wireless network = was on,=20 but could not find an accesspoint, it would cause ProTools to crash. = Bizarre.=20 And I recently read in the max/msp forum that this could cause clicking = with=20 some recording apps and sound cards.
     
    Amway, there are a number of methods = that folks use=20 to prevent some of these above mentioned processes and apps from = launching at=20 startup. Some of us, including myself in the past, have used msconfig = (you just=20 run this from Start and Run). You can deselect any of these and prevent = them=20 from running at startup. However, I recently read in some tech forums=20 that msconfig is recommended primarily for testing, = troubleshooting,=20 etc...not as a permanent solution to altering your startup = process. The=20 claim is that this is not an efficient way to end the processes and does = so=20 incompletely. Then, another tech forum suggests that instead of = msconfig,=20 you should be using "services.msc". It is a more efficient and clean way = to go=20 in and end the processes safely. However, that app is a little awkward = to=20 use.  I also recall another solution, that I've tried, but scares = the hell=20 out of me, where you make changes to your startup process, save your MS = registry=20 file (go into Start, Run, and "regedit"), and do this for your different = configurations. Then you load the registry file you want, and reboot to = get that=20 configuration. I don't recommend this, though it seemed to work. At the = time, it=20 did some weird things to my system like generate duplicate entry lines = in my=20 startup processes.  Moreover, I read enough negative comments on = these=20 other methods to disuade me from using them. I am very protective of my = computer=20 and don't like messing with things unless I know it is safe and=20 stable.
     
    Over a year ago, I started using = AutoRuns, linked=20 below. It has gained a lot of attention and is even linked from the = Microsoft=20 technet site. You launch this program and it basically shows you = everything that=20 is running on your system. You can easily de-select what you want, save, = and=20 then when you reboot, those processes do not start. I have had great = luck with=20 this program. Another program is similar, which is ServiWin. It is so = similar,=20 that I just use AutoRuns now. My major complaint about these two = program,=20 however, is that you can't save multiple configurations (much in the = same way=20 that you can't save a msconfig setting). Rather, if you want to switch = back and=20 forth between your streamlined startup and your normal setup (for web = browsing,=20 etc), you have remember which processes you unchecked in the app, and = then=20 re-uncheck them again, save, and then re-boot. It's sort of a pain, but = the ease=20 of use of AutoRuns in general is enough for me to keep using it. I only = disable=20 10-15 processes, so I can easily remember which ones.
     
    Here are the links to these = programs:
     
    AutoRuns - http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/Utilities/AutoRuns.ms= px
    ServiWin - http://www.nirsoft.ne= t/utils/serviwin.html
     
    So, essentially, the process I use to = startup into=20 my music performance/looping configuration, is that I use AutoRuns to = remove=20 Diskkeeper, anything from Semantic AntiVirus (the main memory/process = hogger),=20 and a handful of ThinkPad apps like the system update manager, etc. Then = I go=20 into my network connections and disable my wireless and LAN networks. = Then I=20 reboot. All is good.
     
    I would be curious to know what other = folks are=20 using. Has anyone found an app like AutoRuns that allows you to save = multiple=20 configurations? I actually wrote the developer of AutoRuns requesting = this=20 feature, but the response was that they had no plans for this. It = doesn't make=20 sense to me. It would be so easy to mod that program so that you just = load a new=20 AutoRuns configuration, save, and then reboot.
     
    Kris
     
    ------=_NextPart_000_0B98_01C80BEB.CEF4D0F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 16:16:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A80AD3BEDC; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:16:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 613215593-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.250.149 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah4FAB/pDUdPQvqV/2dsb2JhbACCKaRr Message-ID: <470E4C52.1070406@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:16:18 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Startup Apps for Laptop Loopers - streamline performance, etc References: <0b9b01c80c1e$1ccd06d0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <0b9b01c80c1e$1ccd06d0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:16:15 +0000 (UTC) Krispen Hartung wrote: > This topic has been discussed before, but I wanted to share my latest > findings. As you XP computer users know, when Windows starts it loads a > lot of processes, > Some > of us, including myself in the past, have used msconfig (you just run > this from Start and Run). You can deselect any of these and prevent them > from running at startup. However, I recently read in some tech forums > that msconfig is recommended primarily for testing, troubleshooting, > etc...not as a permanent solution to altering your startup process. The > claim is that this is not an efficient way to end the processes and does > so incompletely. Actually, it prevents the processes from ever being started. Perhaps what they meant was that it didn't catch every single process that could start (which I think may be the case). Surely you can do an MSCONFIG setup, and then either use it or not. At least that gives you 2 different startup configs. ( with a choice on startup ) andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 16:23:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD91A3BEDD; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0bba01c80c23$086bcb90$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <0b9b01c80c1e$1ccd06d0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <470E4C52.1070406@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Startup Apps for Laptop Loopers - streamline performance, etc Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:23:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:23:19 +0000 (UTC) >> Some of us, including myself in the past, have used msconfig (you just >> run this from Start and Run). You can deselect any of these and prevent >> them from running at startup. However, I recently read in some tech >> forums that msconfig is recommended primarily for testing, >> troubleshooting, etc...not as a permanent solution to altering your >> startup process. The claim is that this is not an efficient way to end >> the processes and does so incompletely. > > Actually, it prevents the processes from ever being started. > Perhaps what they meant was that it didn't catch every single process > that could start (which I think may be the case). Yes, that is obviously what it does, as indicated by the processes not appearing at re-boot > Surely you can do an MSCONFIG setup, and then either use it or not. > At least that gives you 2 different startup configs. > ( with a choice on startup ) Yes, but once you go back to your standard startup and reboot, and then want to go back to your performance configuration, you have to re-deselect the processes again and reboot. You cannot save the msconfig configuration. But, more importantly, the articles are not recommending msconfig as the approprieate way to do this. As I said, it is recommended as a way to troubleshoot, etc, not as a permament startup configuration solution. I don't have the articles on hand, but you could Google the topic and find them. Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 16:36:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 252C03BEDD; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:36:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Ninja-PIM: Scanned by Ninja X-Ninja-AttachmentFiltering: (no action) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Startup Apps for Laptop Loopers - streamline performance, etc Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:36:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BEEF@keel.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <0b9b01c80c1e$1ccd06d0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Thread-Topic: Startup Apps for Laptop Loopers - streamline performance, etc thread-index: AcgMHtchlhyZ5nOJRjWpFbB78WYSJgABRMqA References: <0b9b01c80c1e$1ccd06d0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Jeff Larson" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:36:40 +0000 (UTC) I use AutoRuns now, but in the past I used "Startup Cop" which you can download from the PC Magazine site. There are several versions floating around, be sure to get the latest "Pro" version. =20 One of the things it had that I never got around to using was "profiles" which I think is what you want. You can make multiple profiles of enabled services and switch between them. =20 If that doesn't work for you, then what I generally do is maintain two different OS partitions with a shared data partition and cross boot. =20 Jeff =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 16:43:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 810903BEE4; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:43:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20071011094622.02f473e0@mail.onemodelplace.com> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:46:50 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: Re: test! In-Reply-To: <200710111322.l9BDMfu8008872@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-385E680A Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:43:36 +0000 (UTC) yes, got it... Smiles, CQ :) At 03:22 PM 10/11/2007 +0200, you wrote: >This is a test! >Can everybody read this?! > > > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: 10/9/2007 >4:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: 10/9/2007 4:43 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 17:01:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9444E3BED9; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:01:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=UTEkZQicAcF9uM1plznPAGgOfK5O1lk92SN9O/GbleaK5O6fq8RpoCYv3LOtJmuBPE9GMrde1GSy0wT1loWIqbYv2fMKW6XmD07gWuZTYgHZ5MXbKCiGWZvZmQ2gS/sVgEogPEcrxculmf6bzjzU21r4T/ggMJMf+QXj7QeQqQs=; X-YMail-OSG: U37MrQkVM1k564_nxF7PJ.bWITTEYrznn6ezM5Ja_Pch.oI5u3hOnh07A4PfDMYQyiimditYCGAK_.VPsIBA3C9mxg-- Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:01:39 -0700 (PDT) From: richard gryffin Subject: EDP overdub switch kills loop feedback after one cycle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2084664896-1192122099=:76879" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <623224.76879.qm@web63507.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:01:40 +0000 (UTC) --0-2084664896-1192122099=:76879 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have encountered another problem controlling my EDP with the foot controller. the first has been resolved...prob and resolution below ... i include this because the new problem is similar.... power on and record the first loop....no problems and all functions available thru the pedal and EDP...everything works as it should when i reset record on the EDP using the midi foot controller or the front panel and start a new loop it plays only one cycle of the loop and then stops. I have reset the EDP to factory defaults to make sure i havent inadvertantly changed a paramater... . then i also discovered you have to reset the echoplex presets thru further experimentation i have found that apparently the initial use of the midi controller changes a preset parameter in the echoplex after the first loop..which one i cant figure ....i have established this by resetting the presets after disconnecting the fcb1010 and using the echoplex footswitch.. once i do this everything is back to normal with the plex... resolution ....reset all unused fcb functions to an unused channel...they were set to midi channel 25 in the fcb and the plex has only 16 midi channels ...once i changed the fcb settings to channel 15 the problem stopped now i am trying to run a single latched footswitch from the overdub jack on the back of the plex ....when this switch is plugged in the plex behaves as above stopping after the first cycle...remove the switch and the problem goes away....changing the preset value for feedBKC has no effect...where is the plex getting this extraneous setting from? what will kill the loop after only one cycle.... this is a great group and i appreciate the help it has been.....closer to performing at every step i am.... firehawks --------------------------------- Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. --0-2084664896-1192122099=:76879 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    I have encountered another  problem controlling my EDP with the foot
    controller. the first has been resolved...prob and resolution below ... i include this because the new problem is similar....  
    power on and record the first loop....no problems and all functions
    available thru the pedal and EDP...everything works as it should
    when i reset record on the EDP using the midi foot controller or
    the front panel and start a new loop it plays only one cycle of the
    loop and then stops. I have reset the EDP to factory defaults to
    make sure i havent inadvertantly changed a paramater... . then i also
    discovered you have to reset the echoplex presets
    thru further experimentation i have found that apparently the
    initial use of the midi controller changes a preset parameter in the
    echoplex after the first loop..which one i cant figure ....i have
    established this by resetting the presets after disconnecting the
    fcb1010 and using the echoplex footswitch.. once i do this everything
    is back to normal with the plex...

    resolution ....reset all unused fcb functions to an unused channel...they were set to
    midi channel 25  in the fcb and the plex has only 16 midi channels ...once i changed the fcb settings to channel 15 the problem stopped
     
    now i am trying to run a single latched footswitch from the overdub jack on the back of the plex ....when this switch is plugged in the plex behaves as above stopping after the first cycle...remove the switch and the problem goes away....changing the preset value for feedBKC has no effect...where is the plex getting this extraneous setting from? what will kill the loop after only one cycle....
     
    this is a great group and i appreciate the help it has been.....closer to performing at every step i am....


    firehawks

    Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.
    Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. --0-2084664896-1192122099=:76879-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 17:03:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7194C3BEDA; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:03:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 393 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:03:37 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=yDaTkP7VtWXetYhXPPv23/dUGf/8UMM9CS+QuXvmdUk=; b=oQ0GhX+y0JqsQwFkMuY8b9TaI7P0CaR9taOU0x0KlKiJO3EFatH1KKoMbvhyoL42gYpbIonW8HP2L7K9QMpS3klK+d8UrBfL3br8GMXyQwKRN5KY9VN7sOGC/FIBqiQiDT5B8oYiS6cZ80BLjM+jIIZluwqOd9/x52DTcO/UVNM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=oyNNUKCM7yOtoZi3J0egplJcdpKt+afv372mY0/jnnDcNAoFurFCnL6TO9eUf9jUQL0WhhOvnePPoY1qPi9HjHdRxCSr7KtqSDBxYsB3T/Xtuicht0ID4Dv+52WRjtqRoJqQWBv5yhnIgEIZq1oPIc6l2roozuNvLo40KybtfRQ= Message-ID: <4cf76a0b0710110957y3bb313b9rcd03a3502a2b8a1c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:57:03 -0700 From: "miles ward" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Startup Apps for Laptop Loopers - streamline performance, etc In-Reply-To: <0bba01c80c23$086bcb90$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1848_8533434.1192121823142" References: <0b9b01c80c1e$1ccd06d0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <470E4C52.1070406@tiscali.co.uk> <0bba01c80c23$086bcb90$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:03:38 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1848_8533434.1192121823142 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Another key item there is just how much of a hog the norton applications are, and how hard it is to properly contain their impact on performance of your machine. I'd recommend Nod32. On 10/11/07, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > >> Some of us, including myself in the past, have used msconfig (you just > >> run this from Start and Run). You can deselect any of these and prevent > >> them from running at startup. However, I recently read in some tech > >> forums that msconfig is recommended primarily for testing, > >> troubleshooting, etc...not as a permanent solution to altering your > >> startup process. The claim is that this is not an efficient way to end > >> the processes and does so incompletely. > > > > Actually, it prevents the processes from ever being started. > > Perhaps what they meant was that it didn't catch every single process > > that could start (which I think may be the case). > > Yes, that is obviously what it does, as indicated by the processes not > appearing at re-boot > > > Surely you can do an MSCONFIG setup, and then either use it or not. > > At least that gives you 2 different startup configs. > > ( with a choice on startup ) > > Yes, but once you go back to your standard startup and reboot, and then > want to go back to your performance configuration, you have to re-deselect > the processes again and reboot. You cannot save the msconfig > configuration. > But, more importantly, the articles are not recommending msconfig as the > approprieate way to do this. As I said, it is recommended as a way to > troubleshoot, etc, not as a permament startup configuration solution. I > don't > have the articles on hand, but you could Google the topic and find them. > > Kris > > -- ---Miles Ward ------=_Part_1848_8533434.1192121823142 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Another key item there is just how much of a hog the norton applications are, and how hard it is to properly contain their impact on performance of your machine.  I'd recommend Nod32.

    On 10/11/07, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
    >> Some of us, including myself in the past, have used msconfig (you just
    >> run this from Start and Run). You can deselect any of these and prevent
    >> them from running at startup. However, I recently read in some tech
    >> forums that msconfig is recommended primarily for testing,
    >> troubleshooting, etc...not as a permanent solution to altering your
    >> startup process. The claim is that this is not an efficient way to end
    >> the processes and does so incompletely.
    >
    > Actually, it prevents the processes from ever being started.
    > Perhaps what they meant was that it didn't catch every single process
    > that could start (which I think may be the case).

    Yes, that is obviously what it does, as indicated by the processes not
    appearing at re-boot

    > Surely you can do an MSCONFIG setup, and then either use it or not.
    > At least that gives you 2 different startup configs.
    > ( with a choice on startup )

    Yes, but once you go back to your standard startup and reboot, and then
    want to go back to your performance configuration, you have to re-deselect
    the processes again and reboot. You cannot save the msconfig configuration.
    But, more importantly, the articles are not recommending msconfig as the
    approprieate way to do this. As I said, it is recommended as a way to
    troubleshoot, etc, not as a permament startup configuration solution. I
    don't
    have the articles on hand, but you could Google the topic and find them.

    Kris




    --
    ---Miles Ward ------=_Part_1848_8533434.1192121823142-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 17:13:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A15D3BEE0; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:13:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0bcd01c80c29$fb591190$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <0b9b01c80c1e$1ccd06d0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <470E4C52.1070406@tiscali.co.uk> <0bba01c80c23$086bcb90$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: Startup Apps for Laptop Loopers - streamline performance, etc Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:13:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:13:05 +0000 (UTC) FYI, most all the articles at MS's support site suggest that msconfig is primarily for diognostics and troubleshooting. http://support.microsoft.com/search/default.aspx?spid=global&query=msconfig&qryWt=&mode=r&cus=False K- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 17:14:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4468F3BEDD; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:14:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0bde01c80c2a$1e117740$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <0b9b01c80c1e$1ccd06d0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BEEF@keel.sailpoint.com> Subject: Re: Startup Apps for Laptop Loopers - streamline performance, etc Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:13:59 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:14:02 +0000 (UTC) Ohhhh! Nice. Thanks for sharing. That is what I was looking for. Kris ----- Original Message ----- I use AutoRuns now, but in the past I used "Startup Cop" which you can download from the PC Magazine site. There are several versions floating around, be sure to get the latest "Pro" version. One of the things it had that I never got around to using was "profiles" which I think is what you want. You can make multiple profiles of enabled services and switch between them. If that doesn't work for you, then what I generally do is maintain two different OS partitions with a shared data partition and cross boot. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 17:19:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0CC53BEE0; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:19:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0be101c80c2a$db7e0cd0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <0b9b01c80c1e$1ccd06d0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BEEF@keel.sailpoint.com> Subject: Re: Startup Apps for Laptop Loopers - streamline performance, etc Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:19:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:19:20 +0000 (UTC) I think this is the most up to date link: http://www.windows-startup-cop.com/ ----- Original Message ----- I use AutoRuns now, but in the past I used "Startup Cop" which you can download from the PC Magazine site. There are several versions floating around, be sure to get the latest "Pro" version. One of the things it had that I never got around to using was "profiles" which I think is what you want. You can make multiple profiles of enabled services and switch between them. If that doesn't work for you, then what I generally do is maintain two different OS partitions with a shared data partition and cross boot. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 17:24:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC9033BEDD; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:24:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1800 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:24:48 UTC Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:55:41 -0400 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: 46 Seconds from the Boss DD-20 (Was Newbie!) To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <004301c80c27$9a247ec0$261bbe18@oemcomputer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_LXGOx2o+5y8JwvyR5CFETg)" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:24:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_LXGOx2o+5y8JwvyR5CFETg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Ted K. wrote: > To my knowledge, the maximum delay time is 23 seconds. > Unless Boss has upgraded the memory on the things, I suspect it still is. > You might want to check, if this is important to you, before you buy. If you read my review/description of the Boss DD-20 on the Looper's Delight web site, you'll find the neat trick I discovered to create up to 46 seconds of delay from this cool little cream-colored box. It's in there; you just gotta know how to coax it out. Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large www.thecoyote.org coyotelk@optonline.net "The volume knob on your telepathy is your morality." - Stephen Gaskin, The Farm --Boundary_(ID_LXGOx2o+5y8JwvyR5CFETg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
    Ted K. wrote:
    > To my knowledge, the maximum delay time is 23 seconds.

    > Unless Boss has upgraded the memory on the things, I suspect it still is.

    > You might want to check, if this is important to you, before you buy.

    If you read my review/description of the Boss DD-20 on the Looper's Delight web site, you'll find the neat trick I discovered to create up to 46 seconds of delay from this cool little cream-colored box. It's in there; you just gotta know how to coax it out.
     
    Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large
    www.thecoyote.org
    coyotelk@optonline.net
     
    "The volume knob on your telepathy is your morality."        
    - Stephen Gaskin, The Farm
    --Boundary_(ID_LXGOx2o+5y8JwvyR5CFETg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 17:26:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A49D53BEE7; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:26:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Ninja-PIM: Scanned by Ninja X-Ninja-AttachmentFiltering: (no action) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Startup Apps for Laptop Loopers - streamline performance, etc Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:26:01 -0500 Message-ID: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BF01@keel.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <0be101c80c2a$db7e0cd0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Thread-Topic: Startup Apps for Laptop Loopers - streamline performance, etc thread-index: AcgMKt7mo67GS30QRW20K76xEw+B9QAAGBcA References: <0b9b01c80c1e$1ccd06d0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BEEF@keel.sailpoint.com> <0be101c80c2a$db7e0cd0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Jeff Larson" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:26:05 +0000 (UTC) No, that's "CopiLot", I was using "Cop". This looks like it: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1830389,00.asp?kc=3DPCGL10310KTX2B2= 20 0331 I notice that it has a bad member rating, but they were complaining about some advanced features you may not need. =20 The other one looks different though they cleverly grabbed the windows-startup-cop domain name. Jeff =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 17:32:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B34F3BEE8; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:32:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 395 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:32:56 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=fxD68blSXX16wK58tMazn2gh+kX9HdI+SGY1Mwq3VcI=; b=Bp15x7o3B+PlNEpQzY9b1uKmS+EukxfBCxKr/cRkhfKIhZZRbIZiNlOAW0Osau1XuUKl9Zmvnh+3kZZNrWAFcVlx/Lr54OMozvS8tPXu5kWNzHKokJWzEbb9FlE4pKvlyaC1VLPztZkNfm0JPKgvc2nHyjp+6SIzSFDrzFfWeUs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XQf47Tr4Im3IHlIEAd61cl4KT4oGUDh4IHbH8V+NGzWlwY8Fbf1/CbL32UGJdUJBXo2Bx5fGMPc80ofQOhRaI5k3YF+N7SkkCbLCNjWSmJX0dQ6ZjKVxyxb2swXvlzqOaejRsY/58qXjCqqswHDkPB+NOgYoyeeF4h0FlxFSOIM= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 13:26:19 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Startup Apps for Laptop Loopers - streamline performance, etc In-Reply-To: <0bde01c80c2a$1e117740$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <0b9b01c80c1e$1ccd06d0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BEEF@keel.sailpoint.com> <0bde01c80c2a$1e117740$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:32:57 +0000 (UTC) Spybot also has a startup 'editor' so you can turn startup stuff on and off. It also knows what things are (mostly) so you can decode some of the weird filenames into something meaningful. Tony On 10/11/07, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Ohhhh! Nice. Thanks for sharing. That is what I was looking for. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > I use AutoRuns now, but in the past I used "Startup Cop" which you can > download from the PC Magazine site. There are several versions > floating around, be sure to get the latest "Pro" version. > > One of the things it had that I never got around to using was > "profiles" which I think is what you want. You can make multiple > profiles of enabled services and switch between them. > > If that doesn't work for you, then what I generally do is maintain two > different OS partitions with a shared data partition and cross boot. > > Jeff > > > -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 17:34:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 29C263BEEA; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:34:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Ninja-PIM: Scanned by Ninja X-Ninja-AttachmentFiltering: (no action) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Startup Apps for Laptop Loopers - streamline performance, etc Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:33:56 -0500 Message-ID: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BF03@keel.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BF01@keel.sailpoint.com> Thread-Topic: Startup Apps for Laptop Loopers - streamline performance, etc thread-index: AcgMKt7mo67GS30QRW20K76xEw+B9QAAGBcAAABgyjA= References: <0b9b01c80c1e$1ccd06d0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BEEF@keel.sailpoint.com> <0be101c80c2a$db7e0cd0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BF01@keel.sailpoint.com> From: "Jeff Larson" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:34:00 +0000 (UTC) Looks like version 3 is out now. This one dumps support for 95 and 98 and adds support for Vista. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2177738,00.asp Jeff =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 17:40:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 336293BEE1; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <470E6027.4060001@servingpeace.com> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:40:55 -0700 From: Sam Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: conversations threading IMPORTANT References: <003601c80bd8$73b592a0$4001a8c0@mini> <58694CE7-DDBC-4B82-8447-CB391CF71704@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <58694CE7-DDBC-4B82-8447-CB391CF71704@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:40:56 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > On 11 okt 2007, at 09.29, Claude Voit wrote: > >> somewhere in the message header are some nb/codes that make the >> conversation tree understandable by the email client and organizes the >> display in our respective mail client. > > This is something I have not heard of? No email system I have been using > works like that (MS Windows Office Outlook, Outlook Express, Eudora, MS > Entourage for Mac, Apple Mail, online web browser dependent G-Mail, > online web browser PHP system Squirrel). When sorting according to > Subject (equalling "thread") the function is based on alphabetical > order, leaving out those short abbreviations typically added by the > email client, as "Re", "RE", "FW" etc. Thunderbird supports sorting by thread which is based on more than just sorting by Subject header. Threading != sorting by Subject. If you open any reply that has been sent to the list and choose your mail program's version of "View Message Source" you can see the raw email message which includes all of the headers. Take note of the "In-Reply-To" and "References" headers. Those headers reference the Message-Id of the message being replied to. Systems that allow for sorting by thread will use those headers to determine threading order above and beyond using the Subject header. The moral of the story is that it really is helpful to many of us as well as to anyone browsing threads in the archives if people will remember to send a new email instead of hitting reply when starting a new thread. Peace, - Sam From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 18:19:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80F5F3BECA; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:19:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=zum8GhOAuHWyAGyac9cA3kV8iVGoLQmeoUxB+jZS3mhswAiW0N7ROPIwU/fnQWR3D8wncgdmZ619xh2PmhhrUAFOhcFatVRwJfvTvG+tl6gyPB1JGQZ+fB6vtX+3P6DCH/gCUty7YEkoFilqfShnNvMIIoUGV8vE7WadQESZL2E=; X-YMail-OSG: TMDDgxoVM1mCrbVw43GyA02KCCQWRuQ2NnMzg7togNphNqe27ud4kGq1WwdW..HStUkKd30BZ2ZkAgON0V9aCv9g6V2i87yITKBswuDbe6DK5kxiEhLO_jAnd2rCIg-- Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:19:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20071009013547.02c0b798@mail.onemodelplace.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2019051973-1192126782=:78840" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <423383.78840.qm@web35115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:19:44 +0000 (UTC) --0-2019051973-1192126782=:78840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit You look hot in that photo! Cara Quinn wrote: lol! It's called a 'Neckie' and it's a designer piece from an SF designer. God, how redundant! lol! -Way fun shoot!!!... Smiles, Cara :) At 06:43 PM 10/8/2007 -0700, you wrote: What the heck is that thing on your neck? Are you hiding a goiter? Cara Quinn wrote: At the bottom of each of my notes... http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Smiles, Cara :) At 01:13 AM 10/8/2007 -0700, you wrote: >A couple of people have mentioned a sentiment that I share with them: >It's great to attach a face to the names of some of the people who contribute >here at the l.d. board. > >Could we put a page up or ten up at the website that has photos next to >all the >people who are here at the site? > >I think it would be great if we could attach names to faces. > > >If that would take up to much bandwidth then I would volunteer to >put them up at the Live Looping Tribe at tribe.net where it is free >to post photos. > > >It'd be better to have it here at L.D. so, to that end, why doesn't >everyone >find their best mug shot and print their name on it so that we can start >putting together a photo gallery of all the live loopers. > >yours, Rick > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: >269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM --------------------------------- Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. --0-2019051973-1192126782=:78840 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit You look hot in that photo!

    Cara Quinn <CaraQuinn@onemodelplace.com> wrote:
      lol!  It's called a 'Neckie' and it's a designer piece from an SF designer.  God, how redundant!  lol! 

      -Way fun shoot!!!...

    Smiles,

    Cara  :)

    At 06:43 PM 10/8/2007 -0700, you wrote:

    What the heck is that thing on your neck? Are you hiding a goiter?

    Cara Quinn <CaraQuinn@onemodelplace.com> wrote:
    At the bottom of each of my notes...

    http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn

    Smiles,

    Cara :)

    At 01:13 AM 10/8/2007 -0700, you wrote:

    >A couple of people have mentioned a sentiment that I share with them:
    >It's great to attach a face to the names of some of the people who contribute
    >here at the l.d. board.
    >
    >Could we put a page up or ten up at the website that has photos next to
    >all the
    >people who are here at the site?
    >
    >I think it would be great if we could attach names to faces.
    >
    >
    >If that would take up to much bandwidth then I would volunteer to
    >put them up at the Live Looping Tribe at tribe.net where it is free
    >to post photos.
    >
    >
    >It'd be better to have it here at L.D. so, to that end, why doesn't
    >everyone
    >find their best mug shot and print their name on it so that we can start
    >putting together a photo gallery of all the live loopers.
    >
    >yours, Rick
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >--
    >No virus found in this incoming message.
    >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database:
    >269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM

    ---
    View my on-line portfolio at:

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    other. -Then, anything is possible..."

    http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn


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    Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos.

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    Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. --0-2019051973-1192126782=:78840-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 19:02:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22A513BEB8; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:02:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20071011095803.02ec95d0@mail.onemodelplace.com> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:05:51 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: Re: On vs off topic -and- irritating people... In-Reply-To: <1707933A-7BEC-4B5B-BD18-011132F648B9@gmail.com> References: <61999.72.51.110.167.1191960231.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BC3B@keel.sailpoint.com> <60886.72.51.110.167.1192027354.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BD65@keel.sailpoint.com> <2B817E1B-CE90-4395-84C4-6736DD3D2516@ubergadget.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20071010160626.02e84b70@mail.onemodelplace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-170E4F02 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:02:37 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per, thanks for your reply. Yes, I'm familiar with filtering and such, and am subscribed to several email lists that all go to appropriate inboxes, or multiple lists to one, so I'm completely comfortable with doing that, but the points I was trying to make, I think might have been lost... Firstly, having all of the LD traffic, (whatever that may be) on one 'LD' list, promotes a smooth flow of ideas from extreme to extreme, which is personally, what keeps me coming back here to this list. Without that, honestly, the list would hold considerably less interest for me. :) -Just my own opinion, of course... Secondly, if a second list is to exist, and be somehow affiliated with LD, why should the moderation style HERE change? I know we've said that the status quo is to be preserved here, but as long as 'OT' posts are going somewhere else, that's not really happening in practice is it?... In other words, rather than simply letting this list adapt as it has done before, to accommodate people, actual material that would have gone to THIS list is now, not. So, instead of simple changes to the existing flow, to adapt it, it's being completely diverted, in an 'all or nothing' fashion. Does that make sense?... Furthermore, there is now more bandwidth on a regular basis about what is on vs what is off topic! lol! Isn't this exactly the sort of thing we were trying to avoid?... lol! -And of course, my own posts here, not withstanding! :) Now, having said all of this, as I understood what happened a few weeks ago, people were simply not happy about a book discussion which they felt interfered with the gear chat... So, a new list was started, where things like book chats could happen. I.E. LDOT... What I'm wondering is why the exclusive / heavily moderated gear chat and more extreme on topic format nature couldn't be applied to THAT list rather than this one?... Why do the book chats need to leave and the gear chat stay?... Why can't the book chats stay, and the gear chat stay as well?... :) -But, the extreme no-frills 'on topic' gear chat could move to the new list... Meanwhile, here on this list, we could simply continue as is, or was, rather, :) and just be more aware and practice better netiquette and have both book chats AND gear chats?... This doesn't, at the moment, seem to be what is happening. (even though we say it's supposed to) If I'm mistaken, then so be it, but I don't think I am... Lastly, as for my own personal thoughts on subbing to the new list, (aside from my mention above, of the notion of too much compartmentalization of the flow of ideas, causing interference in effect) just in a general access sense, different lists cause my email client and screen reader to ;display header info differently, so in effect, different lists are easier and less time consuming for me to read. This is one of the easy ones, whereas Google (while definitely not being the most difficult) is not... So for me, joining a chat list in that format would only be a nuisance. And, as I'd mentioned above, even if I did, the flow that has happened HERE, because of both extremes being present, still wouldn't exist. It's like separating a cake out into it's ingredients, and serving them. :) Sure, you'd still get what's in the cake, BUT IT'S NOT A CAKE!!! :) lol! Am I making sense now?... So, what I'm saying is that I think fragmenting like this is changing the primary nature of the list. If that's what people want, then fine, that's cool! :) It's just not MY personal preference... :) -And, as long as there is some sort of venue which is sort of, but not quite, affiliated with LD, where the book posts go, :) rather than going here, this list is a different place... Does that make sense?... Anyway, I hope I've clarified my points. Have a terrific day!... Smiles, Cara :) At 09:16 AM 10/11/2007 +0200, you wrote: >Just a reminder of what initially kicked off this discussion, since >no one have so far mentioned that in this new thread. It was about >making life a little easier for those who struggle with a digest >version of the list. In the digest version many letters are baked >into one super letter, which means the user can not use normal e-mail >filtering. Especially problematic for digest reading is when someone >quotes way too much and out of context. > >But people, please don't stop quoting now! Intelligent quoting makes >reading a lot easier and is generally regarded as good mailing list >manners. When replying, you should keep just as much of the old text >needed for a new reader to get the background to your own reply. Drag >with mouse button held down to mark text that you want to quote, hit >Reply, type something and finally hit Send. > >Thank you, Travis, for posting the list rules to the list. It just >dawned on me that I have never seen those on the list and that's bad. >Most lists have an automatic function that posts the general list >rules once a month to the list, just as a reminder. > >The "mysterious LDOT list" is not associated with this list in any >way other than that it was crated as a private initiative by a member >of this list and that some more members of this list is subscribing >to it. I personally use it to post things like guitar amp reviews, >funny stories or whatever not looping oriented. As for Cara's wish of >having it all on this list I would like to suggest a way to make that >happen in your own praxis; simply subscribe to the other list and set >you mail application to dump those mails into the same box as the LD >list. You don't even have to know to which list a single message >belongs - hit reply and it goes back through the same "list channel" >where it came in. > >Greetings from Sweden > >Per Boysen >www.boysen.se (Swedish) >www.looproom.com (international) > > > > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: >269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: 10/9/2007 4:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: 10/9/2007 4:43 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 19:06:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3ED23BEC2; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:06:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=IiuuYNN4MpyoRjjx4HaHpLmFQrWbuACvI9omejMgvss=; b=EOto7oxSsJ5qaRRnUbbGqcwWyG+psyOCzKfnmmr/NqOKHEMY+EYfxTtCJIIhbKzwvMzx2QTW96gWUnb2M8loD4NsWCPyVf4Rqs1XFGfeDXwmQfpt4P9Ru6YdohyWtGnfjWC7zzMKdeIwebQ1yDmHk1RGLJmexkAG3DzhK3OO9/0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=QzVdEANOxd6/ZP4QTG4agKhwWeYDR3bLUJtzFy7B6AKllSVl/cMMScqlpwyAUFoIui7EhGrtETU8QvNfIZyyAopbXljlgTNHEpqLdrM7LIlVyZMloM+BVYDsmJE1qSLCZeP6WtZAsKXnM6or49l2TRZFwaOx4UEGgC/PLMd0oIo= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <623224.76879.qm@web63507.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <623224.76879.qm@web63507.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <688B2639-A7FD-4AD4-B2D9-DC90C30DC9BA@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: EDP overdub switch kills loop feedback after one cycle Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:06:02 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:06:10 +0000 (UTC) On 11 okt 2007, at 19.01, richard gryffin wrote: > i have found that apparently the > initial use of the midi controller changes a preset parameter in the > echoplex after the first loop.. This might be caused by your FCB sending also a MIDI Program Changes event together with the note number you have programmed it for, as the command you are sending after the first loop. If that's the case the solution would be to reprogram the FCB patch and turn off the MIDI PC#. > resolution ....reset all unused fcb functions to an unused > channel...they were set to > midi channel 25 in the fcb and the plex has only 16 midi > channels ...once i changed the fcb settings to channel 15 the > problem stopped Twenty five! There are only sixteen channels in MIDI, so 25 must be a bug. I was reprogramming my FCB recently and notice the span of a MIDI Continuous Change parameter to go all the way up to 250, which should not be possible since in MIDI those go only from 1 to 128 (or from 0 to 127). After setting it correctly inside the available span the pedal worked fine though. > now i am trying to run a single latched footswitch from the overdub > jack on the back of the plex ....when this switch is plugged in the > plex behaves as above stopping after the first cycle...remove the > switch and the problem goes away....changing the preset value for > feedBKC has no effect...where is the plex getting this extraneous > setting from? Might be that the feedback is turned down to zero? Or it might be that you happened to plug it into the feedback jack, because then the EDP runs in a different interface mode where part of the feedback functionality is handled from the pedal and part handled from the front panel knob (depending on which action you're talking at the moment). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 19:18:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF60B3BED2; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:18:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=M24ll3GXVVdO7AiJQrhkNdUjA3q8D8Q7cfCGOhcKt+M=; b=TeVr+AUGQkJH0YUms979949mP0YmE9S1bcleEHc/+OPgs8zGnVWSCOuYMYri9pJCcRez4ojm4Ri6qEtNoyoKwl5TYEfChTDCtP2W+n7JcdDF+Dzd697Up9M5FwfXouVMtDbho3XzArb+vP5/BSpL2I5LSU7aBw4OZj0irGmpqNY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=gV+v6rhgv87FdzqLBV+JcHXYGabyOAw28ixTi9uxz8JaGg07vZJXFkkxWSHYIoFSlvU0GtEQvQjsohnTVef2TiVykgu1Iqd2nCfdcuR++tmcRxa9hSCsjFZ7ocRF5qSzDKBXYTkatVgNpvseK4odwxNcKROpSpOhJUCaQ80pRx8= In-Reply-To: <0b9b01c80c1e$1ccd06d0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <0b9b01c80c1e$1ccd06d0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <05C06853-9D71-44B7-BB7C-68681DCCE6A2@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Startup Apps for Laptop Loopers - streamline performance, etc Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:18:39 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <8bGHaD.A.ofB.UcnDHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:18:45 +0000 (UTC) On 11 okt 2007, at 17.47, Krispen Hartung wrote: > I would be curious to know what other folks are using. Has anyone > found an app like AutoRuns that allows you to save multiple > configurations I used to tweak quite a lot of system settings in Windows 95 and got much better performance out of the machines. But when XP arrived and computers got faster there wasn't really much need of doing that, except for tweaking of some background services. But I did not use an application to do this every time I started the machine. Instead I set up the machine with different bootable system partitions, each one hidden and thus not visible from the others (since this is not really possible with unhidden partition. So the partition I chose to boot from launched a system that truly believed that it owned control of the complete hardware. And the music partition had of course no virus protection software or network drivers installed, only pure intel power. That solution is much faster, compared to booting the machine and having to start killing off background services. In this way I used PC's for audio work in a recording studio context between 2000 and 2003. Since 2003 I have been using Macs (except for a pc lappy for Mobius). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 19:21:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E88B3BEE1; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:21:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20071011122257.02c0b270@mail.onemodelplace.com> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:24:58 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: OT -was- Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE In-Reply-To: <423383.78840.qm@web35115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20071009013547.02c0b798@mail.onemodelplace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-170E4F02; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-470E788C62EC=======" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:21:42 +0000 (UTC) --=======AVGMAIL-470E788C62EC======= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_3710024==.ALT"; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-170E4F02 --=====================_3710024==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-170E4F02 Hey thanks! :) Much appreciated!... Smiles, Cara :) At 11:19 AM 10/11/2007 -0700, you wrote: >You look hot in that photo! > >Cara Quinn wrote: > lol! It's called a 'Neckie' and it's a designer piece from an SF > designer. God, how redundant! lol! > > -Way fun shoot!!!... > >Smiles, > >Cara :) > >At 06:43 PM 10/8/2007 -0700, you wrote: > >>What the heck is that thing on your neck? Are you hiding a goiter? >> >>Cara Quinn wrote: >>At the bottom of each of my notes... >> >>http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn >>Smiles, >>Cara :) >>At 01:13 AM 10/8/2007 -0700, you wrote: >> >A couple of people have mentioned a sentiment that I share with them: >> >It's great to attach a face to the names of some of the people who >> contribute >> >here at the l.d. board. >> > >> >Could we put a page up or ten up at the website that has photos next to >> >all the >> >people who are here at the site? >> > >> >I think it would be great if we could attach names to faces. >> > >> > >> >If that would take up to much bandwidth then I would volunteer to >> >put them up at the Live Looping Tribe at tribe.net where it is free >> >to post photos. >> > >> > >> >It'd be better to have it here at L.D. so, to that end, why doesn't >> >everyone >> >find their best mug shot and print their name on it so that we can start >> >putting together a photo gallery of all the live loopers. >> > >> >yours, Rick >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >-- >> >No virus found in this incoming message. >> >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: >> >269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM >>--- >>View my on-line portfolio at: >> >>http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn >>"The only things I really think are important, are love, and each >>other. -Then, anything is possible..." >> >>http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn >> >>-- >>No virus found in this outgoing message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: >>10/2/2007 6:43 PM >> >> >> >> >>Check >>out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: >>10/2/2007 6:43 PM >--- > View my on-line portfolio at: > >http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each > other. -Then, anything is possible..." > >http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn > > >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: >10/2/2007 6:43 PM > > > >Don't let your dream ride pass you by. >Make >it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: 10/9/2007 >4:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn --=====================_3710024==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-170E4F02   Hey thanks!  :)  Much appreciated!...

    Smiles,

    Cara  :)

    At 11:19 AM 10/11/2007 -0700, you wrote:

    You look hot in that photo!

    Cara Quinn <CaraQuinn@onemodelplace.com> wrote:
      lol!  It's called a 'Neckie' and it's a designer piece from an SF designer.  God, how redundant!  lol! 

      -Way fun shoot!!!...

    Smiles,

    Cara  :)

    At 06:43 PM 10/8/2007 -0700, you wrote:

    What the heck is that thing on your neck? Are you hiding a goiter?

    Cara Quinn <CaraQuinn@onemodelplace.com> wrote:
    At the bottom of each of my notes...

    http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
    Smiles,
    Cara :)
    At 01:13 AM 10/8/2007 -0700, you wrote:
    >A couple of people have mentioned a sentiment that I share with them:
    >It's great to attach a face to the names of some of the people who contribute
    >here at the l.d. board.
    >
    >Could we put a page up or ten up at the website that has photos next to
    >all the
    >people who are here at the site?
    >
    >I think it would be great if we could attach names to faces.
    >
    >
    >If that would take up to much bandwidth then I would volunteer to
    >put them up at the Live Looping Tribe at tribe.net where it is free
    >to post photos.
    >
    >
    >It'd be better to have it here at L.D. so, to that end, why doesn't
    >everyone
    >find their best mug shot and print their name on it so that we can start
    >putting together a photo gallery of all the live loopers.
    >
    >yours, Rick
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >--
    >No virus found in this incoming message.
    >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database:
    >269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM
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Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: 10/9/2007 4= :43 PM --=======AVGMAIL-470E788C62EC=======-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 19:30:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE4C43BEE8; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:30:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20071011122734.02c0adc0@mail.onemodelplace.com> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:33:58 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: Re: EDP overdub switch kills loop feedback after one cycle In-Reply-To: <623224.76879.qm@web63507.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-170E4F02; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-470E7AAC7994=======" Resent-Message-ID: <8MoQ7B.A.DKC.mnnDHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 19:30:46 +0000 (UTC) --=======AVGMAIL-470E7AAC7994======= Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_4253986==.ALT"; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-170E4F02 --=====================_4253986==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-170E4F02 Hi Richard, perhaps it's me, but your solution here, doesn't make sense. There ARE only 16 midi channels regardless of whatever device you're using. So I'm not sure what's happening there. No biggie, of course, since it seems to have solved your issue, so way cool! :) However, it really seems like there's something else going on here in the first place... Can you give a more detailed note on your FCB settings and EDP settings?... For me at least, it's not clear (could be the blonde thing! lol!) and I'd like to help if I can... Thanks so much and have a wonderful day!... Smiles, Cara :) At 10:01 AM 10/11/2007 -0700, you wrote: > I have encountered another problem controlling my EDP > with the foot >controller. the first has been resolved...prob and resolution below ... i >include this because the new problem is similar.... >power on and record the first loop....no problems and all functions >available thru the pedal and EDP...everything works as it should >when i reset record on the EDP using the midi foot controller or >the front panel and start a new loop it plays only one cycle of the >loop and then stops. I have reset the EDP to factory defaults to >make sure i havent inadvertantly changed a paramater... . then i also >discovered you have to reset the echoplex presets >thru further experimentation i have found that apparently the >initial use of the midi controller changes a preset parameter in the >echoplex after the first loop..which one i cant figure ....i have >established this by resetting the presets after disconnecting the >fcb1010 and using the echoplex footswitch.. once i do this everything >is back to normal with the plex... > >resolution ....reset all unused fcb functions to an unused channel...they >were set to >midi channel 25 in the fcb and the plex has only 16 midi channels ...once >i changed the fcb settings to channel 15 the problem stopped > >now i am trying to run a single latched footswitch from the overdub jack >on the back of the plex ....when this switch is plugged in the plex >behaves as above stopping after the first cycle...remove the switch and >the problem goes away....changing the preset value for feedBKC has no >effect...where is the plex getting this extraneous setting from? what will >kill the loop after only one cycle.... > >this is a great group and i appreciate the help it has been.....closer to >performing at every step i am.... > > >firehawks > > >Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. >Play Sims >Stories at Yahoo! Games. > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: 10/9/2007 >4:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn --=====================_4253986==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-170E4F02   Hi Richard, perhaps it's me, but your solution here, doesn't make sense.  There ARE only 16 midi channels regardless of whatever device you're using.  So I'm not sure what's happening there.  No biggie, of course, since it seems to have solved your issue, so way cool!  :)

      However, it really seems like there's something else going on here in the first place...

      Can you give a more detailed note on your FCB settings and EDP settings?... 

      For me at least, it's not clear (could be the blonde thing!  lol!) and I'd like to help if I can...   

      Thanks so much and have a wonderful day!...

    Smiles,

    Cara  :)

    At 10:01 AM 10/11/2007 -0700, you wrote:

                    I have encountered another  problem controlling my EDP with the foot
    controller. the first has been resolved...prob and resolution below ... i include this because the new problem is similar.... 
    power on and record the first loop....no problems and all functions
    available thru the pedal and EDP...everything works as it should
    when i reset record on the EDP using the midi foot controller or
    the front panel and start a new loop it plays only one cycle of the
    loop and then stops. I have reset the EDP to factory defaults to
    make sure i havent inadvertantly changed a paramater... . then i also
    discovered you have to reset the echoplex presets
    thru further experimentation i have found that apparently the
    initial use of the midi controller changes a preset parameter in the
    echoplex after the first loop..which one i cant figure ....i have
    established this by resetting the presets after disconnecting the
    fcb1010 and using the echoplex footswitch.. once i do this everything
    is back to normal with the plex...

    resolution ....reset all unused fcb functions to an unused channel...they were set to
    midi channel 25  in the fcb and the plex has only 16 midi channels ...once i changed the fcb settings to channel 15 the problem stopped
     
    now i am trying to run a single latched footswitch from the overdub jack on the back of the plex ....when this switch is plugged in the plex behaves as above stopping after the first cycle...remove the switch and the problem goes away....changing the preset value for feedBKC has no effect...where is the plex getting this extraneous setting from? what will kill the loop after only one cycle....
     
    this is a great group and i appreciate the help it has been.....closer to performing at every step i am....


    firehawks


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Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: 10/9/2007 4= :43 PM --=======AVGMAIL-470E7AAC7994=======-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 20:30:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 581853BEC2; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:30:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 633144947-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.250.149 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah4FALcjDkdPQvqV/2dsb2JhbACCKaRN Message-ID: <470E87DC.6030206@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:30:20 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT On vs off topic -and- irritating people... References: <61999.72.51.110.167.1191960231.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BC3B@keel.sailpoint.com> <60886.72.51.110.167.1192027354.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BD65@keel.sailpoint.com> <2B817E1B-CE90-4395-84C4-6736DD3D2516@ubergadget.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20071010160626.02e84b70@mail.onemodelplace.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20071011095803.02ec95d0@mail.onemodelplace.com> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20071011095803.02ec95d0@mail.onemodelplace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:30:21 +0000 (UTC) Cara says:- > . So, a new list was started, > where things like book chats could happen. I.E. LDOT... > > > So, what I'm saying is that I think fragmenting like this is changing > the primary nature of the list. If that's what people want, then fine, > that's cool! :) It's just not MY personal preference... :) > hi Cara, I appreciate your concern ..but the LD list has stayed *exactly* the same LDOT is just a few friendly people who felt they didn't want to clog the list with their nonsense. Posting stuff they wouldn't post on LD. Don't worry, you're not missing out. You have the whole cake. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 20:49:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A5853BED3; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:49:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0c6801c80c48$37cb2d20$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <0b9b01c80c1e$1ccd06d0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BEEF@keel.sailpoint.com> <0be101c80c2a$db7e0cd0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BF01@keel.sailpoint.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BF03@keel.sailpoint.com> Subject: Re: Startup Apps for Laptop Loopers - streamline performance, etc Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:49:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <1bEacD.A.CDG.axoDHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:49:31 +0000 (UTC) Since the program isn't that expensive, bought it and tried it out. It works alright, and being able to save profiles is exactly what I wanted. ....however, as advertised, it is a "Startup" cop. It prevents a fair amount of programs from starting, yet doesn't prevent many associated background processes and services from starting. Kris ----- Original Message ----- Looks like version 3 is out now. This one dumps support for 95 and 98 and adds support for Vista. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2177738,00.asp Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 20:59:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70AC83BED6; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:59:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 720 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:59:17 UTC X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: On vs off topic -and- irritating people... Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:47:12 -0400 Message-ID: <887BA0472ABF144690159D13A2D32CE615E7E5C3@whimail04.malcolmpirnie.com> In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20071011095803.02ec95d0@mail.onemodelplace.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: On vs off topic -and- irritating people... Thread-Index: AcgMR+Z3Cr0dVafARXGnDsqAaLYO4Q== From: "Wordsman, Lee" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Oct 2007 20:47:13.0452 (UTC) FILETIME=[E6CDD6C0:01C80C47] Resent-Message-ID: <9GJLJB.A.KkG.l6oDHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:59:17 +0000 (UTC) Cara,=20 You make your point perfectly and I agree. It seems having two lists could stifle some of the dialogue that ultimately does loop back to topic (most times). Some of the off topic stuff also helps put some personality behind the community, which I don't think is a bad thing. I receive the digest version and but not in the manner that Per describes. I don't get one super post, I get a list of each individual post that I can click on if the subject heading interests me. Do others receive the digest in a different format? Lee -----Original Message----- From: Cara Quinn [mailto:CaraQuinn@onemodelplace.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 3:06 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: On vs off topic -and- irritating people... Hi Per, thanks for your reply. Yes, I'm familiar with filtering and=20 such, and am subscribed to several email lists that all go to appropriate=20 inboxes, or multiple lists to one, so I'm completely comfortable with doing=20 that, but the points I was trying to make, I think might have been lost... Firstly, having all of the LD traffic, (whatever that may be) on one=20 'LD' list, promotes a smooth flow of ideas from extreme to extreme, which=20 is personally, what keeps me coming back here to this list. Without that,=20 honestly, the list would hold considerably less interest for me. :) -Just=20 my own opinion, of course... Secondly, if a second list is to exist, and be somehow affiliated with=20 LD, why should the moderation style HERE change? I know we've said that the status quo is to be preserved here, but as long as 'OT' posts are going=20 somewhere else, that's not really happening in practice is it?... In other words, rather than simply letting this list adapt as it has=20 done before, to accommodate people, actual material that would have gone to=20 THIS list is now, not. So, instead of simple changes to the existing flow,=20 to adapt it, it's being completely diverted, in an 'all or nothing'=20 fashion. Does that make sense?... Furthermore, there is now more=20 bandwidth on a regular basis about what is on vs what is off=20 topic! lol! Isn't this exactly the sort of thing we were trying to=20 avoid?... lol! -And of course, my own posts here, not withstanding! :) Now, having said all of this, as I understood what happened a few weeks=20 ago, people were simply not happy about a book discussion which they felt=20 interfered with the gear chat... So, a new list was started, where things=20 like book chats could happen. I.E. LDOT... What I'm wondering is why the exclusive / heavily moderated gear chat and more extreme on topic format nature couldn't be applied to THAT list rather than this one?... Why do the book chats need to leave and the gear=20 chat stay?... Why can't the book chats stay, and the gear chat stay as=20 well?... :) -But, the extreme no-frills 'on topic' gear chat could move=20 to the new list... Meanwhile, here on this list, we could simply continue as is, or was,=20 rather, :) and just be more aware and practice better netiquette and have=20 both book chats AND gear chats?... This doesn't, at the moment, seem to be=20 what is happening. (even though we say it's supposed to) If I'm mistaken,=20 then so be it, but I don't think I am... Lastly, as for my own personal thoughts on subbing to the new list,=20 (aside from my mention above, of the notion of too much=20 compartmentalization of the flow of ideas, causing interference in effect)=20 just in a general access sense, different lists cause my email client and=20 screen reader to ;display header info differently, so in effect, different=20 lists are easier and less time consuming for me to read. This is one of the easy ones, whereas Google (while definitely not being the most=20 difficult) is not... So for me, joining a chat list in that format would=20 only be a nuisance. And, as I'd mentioned above, even if I did, the flow=20 that has happened HERE, because of both extremes being present, still=20 wouldn't exist. It's like separating a cake out into it's ingredients, and=20 serving them. :) Sure, you'd still get what's in the cake, BUT IT'S NOT A=20 CAKE!!! :) lol! Am I making sense now?... So, what I'm saying is that I think fragmenting like this is changing the primary nature of the list. If that's what people want, then fine,=20 that's cool! :) It's just not MY personal preference... :) -And, as long as there is some sort of venue which is sort of, but not=20 quite, affiliated with LD, where the book posts go, :) rather than going=20 here, this list is a different place... Does that make sense?... Anyway, I hope I've clarified my points. Have a terrific day!... Smiles, Cara :) At 09:16 AM 10/11/2007 +0200, you wrote: >Just a reminder of what initially kicked off this discussion, since >no one have so far mentioned that in this new thread. It was about >making life a little easier for those who struggle with a digest >version of the list. In the digest version many letters are baked >into one super letter, which means the user can not use normal e-mail >filtering. Especially problematic for digest reading is when someone >quotes way too much and out of context. > >But people, please don't stop quoting now! Intelligent quoting makes >reading a lot easier and is generally regarded as good mailing list >manners. When replying, you should keep just as much of the old text >needed for a new reader to get the background to your own reply. Drag >with mouse button held down to mark text that you want to quote, hit >Reply, type something and finally hit Send. > >Thank you, Travis, for posting the list rules to the list. It just >dawned on me that I have never seen those on the list and that's bad. >Most lists have an automatic function that posts the general list >rules once a month to the list, just as a reminder. > >The "mysterious LDOT list" is not associated with this list in any >way other than that it was crated as a private initiative by a member >of this list and that some more members of this list is subscribing >to it. I personally use it to post things like guitar amp reviews, >funny stories or whatever not looping oriented. As for Cara's wish of >having it all on this list I would like to suggest a way to make that >happen in your own praxis; simply subscribe to the other list and set >you mail application to dump those mails into the same box as the LD >list. You don't even have to know to which list a single message >belongs - hit reply and it goes back through the same "list channel" >where it came in. > >Greetings from Sweden > >Per Boysen >www.boysen.se (Swedish) >www.looproom.com (international) > > > > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database:=20 >269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: 10/9/2007 4:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each=20 other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20 Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: 10/9/2007 4:43 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 22:16:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25A523BEC2; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:16:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=uTr7QS+R4GinePnIIRIg5MG7mAlAdv8MdviHEDe3MPgVMVtUNev8zxOIyQ4nINTd57z5Z3NRfr7XZZ8/wQB9McqzoMy+ad9UZ0tJHpIICzr4vrxWYZM4GQv5EiConbCCBv4+k1/GgUCWY2gZzgGg4nwXvJB9QwYbKTCbNqNN/cU=; X-YMail-OSG: gJ_zWkYVM1lvTDA9EnkYGcQbgXJNLQBABEfxZAipJBa2kqjGKNfGZ5FlAXeTGD.au1s6ktPLKPGBA5hM6rtYO5ffJIJOz7.i7llc Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:16:46 -0700 (PDT) From: richard gryffin Subject: Re: EDP overdub switch kills loop feedback after one cycle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <688B2639-A7FD-4AD4-B2D9-DC90C30DC9BA@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1355431642-1192141006=:17414" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <391354.17414.qm@web63505.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:16:47 +0000 (UTC) --0-1355431642-1192141006=:17414 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Might be that the feedback is turned down to zero Or it might be that you happened to plug it into the feedback jack, because then the EDP runs in a different interface mode where part of the feedback functionality is handled from the pedal and part handled from the front panel knob (depending on which action you're talking at the moment) I (blush) must have plugged it into the feedback jack. Thank you for your patience with a newbie. as i said before every step puts me one closer to performing . i want to use the aux overdub remote from my other pedals so i dont have to run cross stage between equipment to press a footswitch. noticed one other thing ...if i leave the plex in overdub and kill the loop and start a new one i get a rapid repeat of the last loop....must have to exit overdub before initiating a new loop eh? side note ....there is a "Per Boysen" here in Colorado...he is an Architect I have worked with....strange coincidence again thanx ...i got my plex a month ago and the fcb last week...and now you folks are making it possible for me to rocket into loopdom....instead of sitting here scratchin my head wonderin what all the lights and switches mean and figurin it out on my own i can focus on what its all about....new music! firehawks --------------------------------- Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! 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    Might be that the feedback is turned down to zero
    Or it might be
    that you happened to plug it into the feedback jack, because then the
    EDP runs in a different interface mode where part of the feedback
    functionality is handled from the pedal and part handled from the
    front panel knob (depending on which action you're talking at the
    moment)
     
    I (blush) must have plugged it into the feedback jack. Thank you for your patience with a newbie.  as i said before every step puts me one closer to performing . i want to use the aux overdub remote from my other pedals so i dont have to run cross stage between equipment to press a footswitch. noticed one other thing ...if i leave the plex in overdub and kill the loop and start a new one i get a rapid repeat of the last loop....must have to exit overdub before initiating a new loop eh?
    side note ....there is a "Per Boysen" here in Colorado...he is an Architect I have worked with....strange coincidence
    again thanx ...i got my plex a month ago and the fcb last week...and now you folks are making it possible for me to rocket into loopdom....instead of sitting here scratchin my head wonderin what all the lights and switches mean and figurin it out on my own i can focus on what its all about....new music!


    firehawks

    Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! Autos. --0-1355431642-1192141006=:17414-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 22:52:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBCC33BECA; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:52:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20071011154931.02e43408@mail.onemodelplace.com> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:55:30 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: Re: OT On vs off topic -and- irritating people... In-Reply-To: <470E87DC.6030206@tiscali.co.uk> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20071011095803.02ec95d0@mail.onemodelplace.com> <61999.72.51.110.167.1191960231.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BC3B@keel.sailpoint.com> <60886.72.51.110.167.1192027354.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56BD65@keel.sailpoint.com> <2B817E1B-CE90-4395-84C4-6736DD3D2516@ubergadget.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20071010160626.02e84b70@mail.onemodelplace.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20071011095803.02ec95d0@mail.onemodelplace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-8B57BFB Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:52:44 +0000 (UTC) At 09:30 PM 10/11/2007 +0100, you wrote: >hi Cara, I appreciate your concern > >..but the LD list has stayed *exactly* the same > >LDOT is just a few friendly people who felt they didn't >want to clog the list with their nonsense. Posting stuff >they wouldn't post on LD. > >Hey Andy, thanks for your note, but that's sort of my point; this sort of >thing is exactly the sort of thing that would have been posted >before. I.E. salsa recipes and such! Catch my meaning?... >Don't worry, you're not missing out. >You have the whole cake. > > >andy > > :) Well let's hope yer right, K?... :) I know I can have the > ingredients; I suppose it remains to be seen how much of the cake I > actually have! :) lol! Oh, and BTW, can you make it CHOCOLATE?!!! Really really DARK?!! Thank you! *looks extra cute* :) Have a great day!... Smiles, Cara :) >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: >269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: 10/9/2007 4:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: 10/9/2007 4:43 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 22:55:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 15EBA3BEC5; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:55:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=pJLBEAAzGS8ZiTqO+7G3LDzrpZDQ9ogBb8fL9JR1NhvXGQUJr5/H9eDImALGqCoOJcPS29Vth5KECHPt7nKXlG6cBAmj5Equ6rjPNBQ0nYCuE7Z9PdBeU++9ycs1+ZOEdj3PA/2G4iiuMKYekilT+7xFf60i6fT2H9We3ZrsRYw=; X-YMail-OSG: bpfGEJsVM1kg3vcdgq12wNesEIdcPMMBucl3qTzvKZra1wCfIi286sWKD.quR_0Ide8uc9qS142f6qzaZ1LNQzWb.S1Qr3AXVOZ8mm0FsQ11XPKs2iSYTyKUJK4uBzzj Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 15:55:47 -0700 (PDT) From: richard gryffin Subject: Re: EDP overdub switch kills loop feedback after one cycle To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20071011122734.02c0adc0@mail.onemodelplace.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1016011030-1192143347=:29622" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <778605.29622.qm@web63510.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:55:48 +0000 (UTC) --0-1016011030-1192143347=:29622 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cara Quinn wrote: Hi Richard, perhaps it's me, but your solution here, doesn't make sense. There ARE only 16 midi channels regardless of whatever device you're using. So I'm not sure what's happening there. No biggie, of course, since it seems to have solved your issue, so way cool! :) However, it really seems like there's something else going on here in the first place... Can you give a more detailed note on your FCB settings and EDP settings?... For me at least, it's not clear (could be the blonde thing! lol!) and I'd like to help if I can... Thanks so much and have a wonderful day!... Smiles, Cara :) everything i read said "get the edititor" when it came to programming the fcb so actually i dont know what the settings in the fcb are....other than what was in the PC editor when i sent the sysex....thats where i came up with midi channel 25 for unused fcb functions...the editor ...i believe its the one by Ed Dixon ...i think the values were set that way by default in the editor and i assume they went with the sysex when i sent it to the fcb. when I changed those settings to channel 15 and resent the sysex everything worked. my EDP settings i believe are default...in this learning curve i have tried to maintain the basics for my initiation...in fact the first thing i really learned was how to reset factory defaults and presets....i have walked the matrix now tho and did that with manual in hand so i understand the lingo better and have a grasp of what gets set where and what the default values are. So much to learn ...multiply and multi increase are what i perceive to be key in what i want to accomplish for performing so on with this exploration and again thanks for your help firehawks --------------------------------- Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more! --0-1016011030-1192143347=:29622 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

    Cara Quinn  wrote:
      Hi Richard, perhaps it's me, but your solution here, doesn't make sense.  There ARE only 16 midi channels regardless of whatever device you're using.  So I'm not sure what's happening there.  No biggie, of course, since it seems to have solved your issue, so way cool!  :)

      However, it really seems like there's something else going on here in the first place...

      Can you give a more detailed note on your FCB settings and EDP settings?... 

      For me at least, it's not clear (could be the blonde thing!  lol!) and I'd like to help if I can...   

      Thanks so much and have a wonderful day!...

    Smiles,

    Cara  :)

    everything i read said "get the edititor" when it came to programming the fcb so actually i dont know what the settings in the fcb are....other than what was in the PC editor when i sent the sysex....thats where i came up with midi channel 25 for unused fcb functions...the editor ...i believe its the one by Ed Dixon ...i think the values  were set that way by default in the editor and i assume they went with the sysex when i sent it to the fcb. when I changed those settings to channel 15 and resent the sysex everything worked.   my EDP settings i believe are default...in this learning curve i have tried to maintain the basics for my initiation...in fact the first thing i really learned was how to reset factory defaults and presets....i have walked the matrix now tho and did that with manual in hand so i understand the lingo better and have a grasp of what gets set where and what the default values are. So much to learn ...multiply and multi increase are what i perceive to be key in what i want to accomplish for performing so on with this exploration and again thanks for your help 


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Watch previews, get listings, and more! --0-1016011030-1192143347=:29622-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 23:06:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B82603BECA; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:06:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:06:08 -0700 From: Niall Munnelly To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: conversations threading IMPORTANT Message-ID: <20071011230608.GA20967@zim.dreamhost.com> References: <003601c80bd8$73b592a0$4001a8c0@mini> <58694CE7-DDBC-4B82-8447-CB391CF71704@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <58694CE7-DDBC-4B82-8447-CB391CF71704@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:06:10 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Oct 11, 2007 at 11:26:25AM +0200, Per Boysen wrote: > On 11 okt 2007, at 09.29, Claude Voit wrote: > > >somewhere in the message header are some nb/codes that make the > >conversation tree understandable by the email client and organizes > >the display in our respective mail client. > > This is something I have not heard of? No email system I have been > using works like that (MS Windows Office Outlook, Outlook Express, > Eudora, MS Entourage for Mac, Apple Mail, online web browser > dependent G-Mail, online web browser PHP system Squirrel). When > sorting according to Subject (equalling "thread") the function is > based on alphabetical order, leaving out those short abbreviations > typically added by the email client, as "Re", "RE", "FW" etc. Every email gets a message ID, and when you reply to it, that goes in the headers. Many mailers, like Thunderbird, IIRC, support thread presentation based on these headers. I use MUTT. These lines in my headers are key: > In-Reply-To: > <58694CE7-DDBC-4B82-8447-CB391CF71704@gmail.com> It's quite handy. -- Yours, Niall. .. . . . . . . . . . Aleph Null. A Simple Insinuation Around Silence. http://aleph-null.net .. .. gpg public key - http://aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. .. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 23:42:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20E483BEC1; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:42:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <004701c80c60$61ef5e10$0201a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <0b9b01c80c1e$1ccd06d0$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <470E4C52.1070406@tiscali.co.uk> <0bba01c80c23$086bcb90$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <4cf76a0b0710110957y3bb313b9rcd03a3502a2b8a1c@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: Startup Apps for Laptop Loopers - streamline performance, etc Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 00:42:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0044_01C80C68.C278FC20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:42:41 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C80C68.C278FC20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Although an early user of Norton's utilities - as well as McAfee, who = was first out of the gate in the A/V arena - I found that, over the = years, both packages have become quite aggressive in the battle for my = processors and RAM, to the extent that I always request they NOT be = included in the PC packages my clients get. A better value is found in V-com's Fix-It Pro 7 suite, not a lot of = cash, and one gets three licenses per purchase, despite it being under = $50. The A/V is Trend's in the suite, and it's well-mannered. I can = record without taking it out of the startup, and if I do both sound and = audio I can halt parts or all of the checking without restarting. I = bought it for my own setup here (three PCs and a Laptop), and = recommended it to my parents, and siblings' families. My PC clients = have it on recommendation. No complaints in over four years of = implementations. v-com.com sells it direct. Big culprit on the Hogging the Startup Department - Hewlett-Packard's = drivers are fine, but those #$* utilities programs as well as the = badly-mannered, malfunctioning update module are worth unchecking in the = Startup section. By the way, rather than going through MSCONFIG one might use the = better-functionality of the Tools section of Spybot S&D, which can be = got for free at http://www.spybot.info/ - though this guy deserves the = money for having pioneered awareness and prevention-elimination of = Spyware/Adware alone. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: miles ward=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, 11 October, 2007 17:57 PM Subject: Re: Startup Apps for Laptop Loopers - streamline performance, = etc Another key item there is just how much of a hog the norton = applications are, and how hard it is to properly contain their impact on = performance of your machine. I'd recommend Nod32. On 10/11/07, Krispen Hartung wrote: >> Some of us, including myself in the past, have used msconfig (you = just >> run this from Start and Run). You can deselect any of these and = prevent >> them from running at startup. However, I recently read in some = tech=20 >> forums that msconfig is recommended primarily for testing, >> troubleshooting, etc...not as a permanent solution to altering = your >> startup process. The claim is that this is not an efficient way = to end=20 >> the processes and does so incompletely. > > Actually, it prevents the processes from ever being started. > Perhaps what they meant was that it didn't catch every single = process > that could start (which I think may be the case).=20 Yes, that is obviously what it does, as indicated by the processes = not appearing at re-boot > Surely you can do an MSCONFIG setup, and then either use it or = not. > At least that gives you 2 different startup configs.=20 > ( with a choice on startup ) Yes, but once you go back to your standard startup and reboot, and = then want to go back to your performance configuration, you have to = re-deselect the processes again and reboot. You cannot save the msconfig = configuration.=20 But, more importantly, the articles are not recommending msconfig as = the approprieate way to do this. As I said, it is recommended as a way = to troubleshoot, etc, not as a permament startup configuration = solution. I=20 don't have the articles on hand, but you could Google the topic and find = them. Kris --=20 ---Miles Ward ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C80C68.C278FC20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Although an early user of Norton's utilities - as = well as=20 McAfee, who was first out of the gate in the A/V arena - I found that, = over the=20 years, both packages have become quite aggressive in the battle for my=20 processors and RAM, to the extent that I always request they NOT be = included in=20 the PC packages my clients get.
     
    A better value is found in V-com's Fix-It Pro 7 = suite, not a=20 lot of cash, and one gets three licenses per purchase, despite it being = under=20 $50.  The A/V is Trend's in the suite, and it's = well-mannered.  I can=20 record without taking it out of the startup, and if I do both sound and = audio I=20 can halt parts or all of the checking without restarting.  I bought = it for=20 my own setup here (three PCs and a Laptop), and recommended it to my = parents,=20 and siblings' families.  My PC clients have it on = recommendation.  No=20 complaints in over four years of implementations.  v-com.com sells = it=20 direct.
     
    Big culprit on the Hogging the Startup Department -=20 Hewlett-Packard's drivers are fine, but those #$* utilities programs as = well as=20 the badly-mannered, malfunctioning update module are worth unchecking in = the=20 Startup section.
     
    By the way, rather than going through MSCONFIG one = might use=20 the better-functionality of the Tools section of Spybot S&D, which = can be=20 got for free at http://www.spybot.info/ - = though this=20 guy deserves the money for having pioneered awareness and = prevention-elimination=20 of Spyware/Adware alone.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 miles = ward=20
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
    Sent: Thursday, 11 October, = 2007 17:57=20 PM
    Subject: Re: Startup Apps for = Laptop=20 Loopers - streamline performance, etc

    Another key item there is just how much of a hog the = norton=20 applications are, and how hard it is to properly contain their impact = on=20 performance of your machine.  I'd recommend Nod32.

    On 10/11/07, Krispen=20 Hartung <khartung@cableone.net>=20 wrote:
    >>=20 Some of us, including myself in the past, have used msconfig (you=20 just
    >> run this from Start and Run). You can deselect any = of these=20 and prevent
    >> them from running at startup. However, I = recently=20 read in some tech
    >> forums that msconfig is recommended = primarily=20 for testing,
    >> troubleshooting, etc...not as a permanent = solution=20 to altering your
    >> startup process. The claim is that this = is not=20 an efficient way to end
    >> the processes and does so=20 incompletely.
    >
    > Actually, it prevents the processes = from ever=20 being started.
    > Perhaps what they meant was that it didn't = catch=20 every single process
    > that could start (which I think may be = the=20 case).

    Yes, that is obviously what it does, as indicated by = the=20 processes not
    appearing at re-boot

    > Surely you can do = an=20 MSCONFIG setup, and then either use it or not.
    > At least that = gives=20 you 2 different startup configs.
    > ( with a choice on startup = )

    Yes, but once you go back to your standard startup and = reboot, and=20 then
    want to go back to your performance configuration, you have = to=20 re-deselect
    the processes again and reboot. You cannot save the = msconfig=20 configuration.
    But, more importantly, the articles are not = recommending=20 msconfig as the
    approprieate way to do this. As I said, it is = recommended=20 as a way to
    troubleshoot, etc, not as a permament startup = configuration=20 solution. I
    don't
    have the articles on hand, but you could = Google the=20 topic and find them.

    Kris



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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 11 23:49:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECB463BEC5; Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:49:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <007e01c80c61$58b77c00$0201a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <5.2.1.1.0.20071009013547.02c0b798@mail.onemodelplace.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20071011122257.02c0b270@mail.onemodelplace.com> Subject: Re: OT -was- Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 00:49:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007B_01C80C69.B951E2F0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <28Rq4.A.GxF.NarDHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:49:33 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007B_01C80C69.B951E2F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Lovely shots. I like the braille top... What does it say, if I might = ask? (Best bra-line t-shirt seen so far, "Thank you for noticing. Now = don't look here again.") ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Cara Quinn=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, 11 October, 2007 20:24 PM Subject: OT -was- Re: WHAT DO WE LOOK LIKE Hey thanks! :) Much appreciated!... Smiles, Cara :) At 11:19 AM 10/11/2007 -0700, you wrote: You look hot in that photo! Cara Quinn wrote:=20 lol! It's called a 'Neckie' and it's a designer piece from an = SF designer. God, how redundant! lol! =20 -Way fun shoot!!!... Smiles, Cara :) At 06:43 PM 10/8/2007 -0700, you wrote: What the heck is that thing on your neck? Are you hiding a = goiter? Cara Quinn wrote:=20 At the bottom of each of my notes... http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Smiles, Cara :) At 01:13 AM 10/8/2007 -0700, you wrote: >A couple of people have mentioned a sentiment that I share with = them:=20 >It's great to attach a face to the names of some of the people = who contribute=20 >here at the l.d. board.=20 >=20 >Could we put a page up or ten up at the website that has photos = next to=20 >all the=20 >people who are here at the site?=20 >=20 >I think it would be great if we could attach names to faces.=20 >=20 >=20 >If that would take up to much bandwidth then I would volunteer = to=20 >put them up at the Live Looping Tribe at tribe.net where it is = free=20 >to post photos.=20 >=20 >=20 >It'd be better to have it here at L.D. so, to that end, why = doesn't=20 >everyone=20 >find their best mug shot and print their name on it so that we = can start=20 >putting together a photo gallery of all the live loopers.=20 >=20 >yours, Rick=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >--=20 >No virus found in this incoming message.=20 >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: = >269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM ---=20 View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and = each=20 other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn --=20 No virus found in this outgoing message.=20 Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20 Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release = Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos.=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20 Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: = 10/2/2007 6:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: =20 http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn=20 "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each = other. -Then, anything is possible..." =20 http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: = 10/2/2007 6:43 PM Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Yahoo! = Autos.=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20 Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: = 10/9/2007 4:43 PM --- View my on-line portfolio at: =20 http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn=20 "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each = other. -Then, anything is possible..." =20 http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20 Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: = 10/9/2007 4:43 PM ------=_NextPart_000_007B_01C80C69.B951E2F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Lovely shots.  I like the braille top... What = does it=20 say, if I might ask?  (Best bra-line t-shirt seen so far, "Thank = you for=20 noticing.  Now don't look here again.")
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 Cara Quinn
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
    Sent: Thursday, 11 October, = 2007 20:24=20 PM
    Subject: OT -was- Re: WHAT DO = WE LOOK=20 LIKE

      Hey thanks!  :)  Much=20 appreciated!...

    Smiles,

    Cara  :)

    At 11:19 AM = 10/11/2007 -0700, you wrote:

    You look hot in that=20 photo!

    Cara Quinn <CaraQuinn@onemodelplace.com>=20 wrote:
      lol!  It's called a 'Neckie' and it's a designer = piece=20 from an SF designer.  God, how redundant!  lol!  =

      -Way fun shoot!!!...

    Smiles,

    Cara  :)

    At 06:43 PM 10/8/2007 -0700, you wrote:

    What the heck is that thing on your neck? Are you hiding a=20 goiter?

    Cara Quinn <CaraQuinn@onemodelplace.com> = wrote:=20
    At the bottom of each of my notes...

    http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
    Smiles,
    Cara :)
    At 01:13 AM 10/8/2007 -0700, you wrote:
    >A couple of people have mentioned a sentiment that I = share with=20 them:=20
    >It's great to attach a face to the names of some of the = people=20 who contribute=20
    >here at the l.d. board.=20
    >=20
    >Could we put a page up or ten up at the website that has = photos=20 next to=20
    >all the=20
    >people who are here at the site?=20
    >=20
    >I think it would be great if we could attach names to = faces.=20
    >=20
    >=20
    >If that would take up to much bandwidth then I would = volunteer=20 to=20
    >put them up at the Live Looping Tribe at tribe.net where = it is=20 free=20
    >to post photos.=20
    >=20
    >=20
    >It'd be better to have it here at L.D. so, to that end, = why=20 doesn't=20
    >everyone=20
    >find their best mug shot and print their name on it so = that we=20 can start=20
    >putting together a photo gallery of all the live = loopers.=20
    >=20
    >yours, Rick=20
    >=20
    >=20
    >=20
    >=20
    >--=20
    >No virus found in this incoming message.=20
    >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus = Database:=20
    >269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 6:43 PM
    ---=20
    View my on-line portfolio at:

    http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn
    "The only things I really think are important, are love, and = each=20
    other. -Then, anything is possible..."

    http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn

    --=20
    No virus found in this outgoing message.=20
    Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20
    Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release = Date:=20 10/2/2007 6:43 = PM




    Check=20 out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos.

    No = virus=20 found in this incoming message.
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    Version:=20 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1045 - Release Date: 10/2/2007 = 6:43=20 PM
    ---
      View my on-line portfolio at:  =

    http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn =

     =20 "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each = other. =20 -Then, anything is possible..." 

    http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn


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    No virus found in this = incoming=20 message.
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      View my on-line portfolio at:  =

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    http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn



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       Copyright © 1999-2007  PayPal. All rights reserved.     From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 09:45:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B98983BEC5; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:45:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--873600770 Message-Id: <9461802C-49F7-415B-9FF4-6B91C0B2B72B@numericable.fr> From: Scott Stroud Subject: Re: Newbie! (DD 20 question) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:39:23 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:45:57 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--873600770 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hello Ted, or anyone else savy to this question When going through the DD 20 in delay mode (100% or near) can you cut =20= off your input at some point, meaning can you get some loops (delays) =20= going and then hit the pedal again and play over the delaying loops dry? BTW I was at a small experimental gig in the local art museum which =20 featured Keith Rowe last night. Not a looper per se, but a pretty big =20= guy in the electro acoustic field. He lives here now in West France. Just thought I'd mention it. Thanks for any info. Still looking for the right pedal. Was leaning =20 towards a used boomerang, but they've been going quite dear on ebay =20 of late. Don't really fancy the rc 20 stuff. Not sure I really want =20 to bridge out to the laptop set up either, afraid I'd or someone else =20= would spill beer all down it's front. Sticking with my Headrush for =20 the mo, until illumination comes from above. It's just so damn short =20 if you want to overdub I use it on both voice and instruments. I also use a Boss digital =20 delay on the voice, which I play around with when my hands are free. Am now waiting for my Lexicon Vortex which I got off ebay to arrive!!! thanks anyone scott Le 11 oct. 07 =E0 16:32, tEd =AE KiLLiAn a =E9crit : > Hi there! > > On Oct 11, 2007, at 7:14 AM, Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA wrote: > >> If I set a Gigadelay to 100% feedback, then everything I play will =20= >> get >> repeated for forever! Unlimited looping! 46 seconds is long enough =20= >> too! > > The DD-20 is something I've frequently used. > > I've owned up to 3 of them at a time and I still own one. > > To my knowledge, the maximum delay time is 23 seconds. > > Unless Boss has upgraded the memory on the things, I suspect it =20 > still is. > > You might want to check, if this is important to you, before you buy. > > On the other side, it is a useful pedal indeed. > > Like you said, I too use the Delay Mode at (or near) 100% feedback =20 > instead of the Loop Mode. > > Loop Mode reminded me too much of the RC-20 -- which I owned for =20 > less than a week and took right back to Guitar Center for refund/=20 > trade-in on another DD-20. > > Having lops that at least have the possibility of decay and change =20 > seems a lot more musically useful and normal. > > There's my 2 cents. > > Good luck and welcome aboard. > > tEd =AE KiLLiAn > > www.tedkillian.com > > Different is not always better, but better is always different" > > Flux Aeterna: > http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?=20 > playListId=3D6378076 > > Also check out the 1st set of BEMF (Boise Experimental Music =20 > Festival) CDs at: > http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/cd.htm > > http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html > http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian > http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html > http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina > http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 > http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 > http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 > http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?=20 > step=3Dview_profile&id=3D1211970 > 00042 > > Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, > BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, > AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, > RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, > and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? --Apple-Mail-1--873600770 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello Ted, or anyone else savy = to this question

    When= going through the DD 20 in delay mode (100% or near) can you cut off = your input at some point, meaning can you get some loops (delays) going = and then hit the pedal again and play over the delaying loops = dry?=A0

    BTW=A0 = I was at a small experimental gig in the local art museum which featured = Keith Rowe last night. Not a looper per se, but a pretty big guy in the = electro acoustic field. He lives here now in West France.=A0
    Just thought I'd mention = it.

    Thanks = for any info.=A0 Still looking for the right pedal. Was leaning towards = a used boomerang, but they've been going quite dear on ebay of late. = Don't really fancy the rc 20 stuff. Not sure I really want to bridge out = to the laptop set up either, afraid I'd or someone else would spill beer = all down it's front. Sticking with my Headrush for the mo, until = illumination comes from above. It's just so damn short if you want to = overdub

    I=A0 = use it on both voice and instruments. I also use a Boss digital delay on = the voice, which I play around with when my hands are = free.=A0

    Am = now waiting for my Lexicon Vortex which I got off ebay to = arrive!!!

    thanks anyone

    scott


    Le 11 oct. 07 = =E0 16:32, tEd =AE KiLLiAn a =E9crit :

    Hi there!=A0

    On Oct = 11, 2007, at 7:14 AM, Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA = wrote:

    If I set a Gigadelay to 100% = feedback, then everything I play will get
    repeated for forever! Unlimited looping! 46 seconds is = long enough too!
    The DD-20 is something I've = frequently used.

    I've owned up to 3 of them at a time and I still own = one.

    To my knowledge, the maximum delay time is 23 = seconds.

    Unless Boss has upgraded the memory on the things, I = suspect it still is.

    You might want to check, if this is important to you, = before you buy.

    On the other side, it is a useful pedal = indeed.

    Like you said, I too use the Delay Mode at (or near) = 100% feedback instead of the Loop Mode.

    Loop Mode = reminded me too much of the RC-20 -- which I owned for less than a week = and took right back to Guitar Center for=A0 refund/trade-in on another = DD-20.

    Having lops that at least have the possibility of = decay and change seems a lot more musically useful and = normal.

    There's my 2 cents.

    Good luck = and welcome aboard.

    tEd =AE KiLLiAn
    www.tedkillian.com

    Different is not always better, but better is = always different"=A0

    =A0

    Flux Aeterna:=A0

    Also check out the 1st = set of BEMF (Boise Experimental Music Festival) CDs at:=A0

    =A0

    http://www.guitar9.com/fl= uxaeterna.html=A0
    00042=A0

    =A0

    Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available = at: Apple iTunes,=A0
    BuyMusic, Rhapsody, = MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster,=A0
    AudioLunchbox, Lindows, = QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream,=A0
    RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony = Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks,=A0
    and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, = yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So???=A0
    =

    = --Apple-Mail-1--873600770-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 12:15:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45B8A3BEB0; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:15:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: 46 Seconds from the Boss DD-20 (Was Newbie!) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:15:20 +0200 Message-ID: <200710121215.l9CCFLuB024731@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> In-Reply-To: <004301c80c27$9a247ec0$261bbe18@oemcomputer> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: 46 Seconds from the Boss DD-20 (Was Newbie!) Thread-Index: AcgMK6LuiF8b7E8VQWGNTuOdepy3QgAncYIg References: <004301c80c27$9a247ec0$261bbe18@oemcomputer> From: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Oct 2007 12:15:22.0586 (UTC) FILETIME=[901D53A0:01C80CC9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:15:26 +0000 (UTC) I DID A LOT OF READING OF ALL THE REVIEWS TO FIND OUT WHICH ONE I WANTED! I ORDERED MY GIGADELAY YESTERDAY!!! I'M VERY EXCITED! THANX EVERYONE! DAVID =20 -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Baldwin [mailto:coyotelk@optonline.net]=20 Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:56 PM To: tEd (r) KiLLiAn; Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: 46 Seconds from the Boss DD-20 (Was Newbie!) Ted K. wrote: > To my knowledge, the maximum delay time is 23 seconds. > Unless Boss has upgraded the memory on the things, I suspect it still is. > You might want to check, if this is important to you, before you buy. If you read my review/description of the Boss DD-20 on the Looper's Delight web site, you'll find the neat trick I discovered to create up to 46 seconds of delay from this cool little cream-colored box. It's in there; you just gotta know how to coax it out. =20 Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large www.thecoyote.org coyotelk@optonline.net =20 "The volume knob on your telepathy is your morality." =20 - Stephen Gaskin, The Farm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 12:25:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 951A43BEB2; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:25:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-AuditID: 8419fe0f-00000edc000005f0-8d-470f67b5250e X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Newbie! (DD 20 question) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:25:22 +0200 Message-ID: <200710121225.l9CCPQu8028368@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> In-Reply-To: <9461802C-49F7-415B-9FF4-6B91C0B2B72B@numericable.fr> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Newbie! (DD 20 question) Thread-Index: AcgMtLS+RZpCtH/ZT8CF9hauMe1ojgAFccew References: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> <9461802C-49F7-415B-9FF4-6B91C0B2B72B@numericable.fr> From: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Oct 2007 12:25:25.0848 (UTC) FILETIME=[F7AFCD80:01C80CCA] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Resent-Message-ID: <4Sj5lD.A.OAH.3e2DHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:25:28 +0000 (UTC) I was wondering about that also! I guess I will find out soon enough. I = ordered a Gigadelay yesterday! I would assume that if it is like most other delay pedals, you stomp to = turn delay on and if you stomp again you turn the delay off. = BUT!....since it is fancy, maybe you stomp and turn off delay mode, but = delays keep going! That would be cool! As soon as I get mine, I will let you know! david =20 -----Original Message----- From: Scott Stroud [mailto:scotty@numericable.fr]=20 Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:39 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Newbie! (DD 20 question) Hello Ted, or anyone else savy to this question When going through the DD 20 in delay mode (100% or near) can you cut = off your input at some point, meaning can you get some loops (delays) = going and then hit the pedal again and play over the delaying loops dry? = BTW I was at a small experimental gig in the local art museum which = featured Keith Rowe last night. Not a looper per se, but a pretty big = guy in the electro acoustic field. He lives here now in West France.=20 Just thought I'd mention it. Thanks for any info. Still looking for the right pedal. Was leaning = towards a used boomerang, but they've been going quite dear on ebay of = late. Don't really fancy the rc 20 stuff. Not sure I really want to = bridge out to the laptop set up either, afraid I'd or someone else would = spill beer all down it's front. Sticking with my Headrush for the mo, = until illumination comes from above. It's just so damn short if you want = to overdub I use it on both voice and instruments. I also use a Boss digital delay = on the voice, which I play around with when my hands are free.=20 Am now waiting for my Lexicon Vortex which I got off ebay to arrive!!! thanks anyone scott Le 11 oct. 07 =E0 16:32, tEd =AE KiLLiAn a =E9crit : Hi there!=20 On Oct 11, 2007, at 7:14 AM, Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA wrote: If I set a Gigadelay to 100% feedback, then everything I play will get repeated for forever! Unlimited looping! 46 seconds is long enough = too! The DD-20 is something I've frequently used. I've owned up to 3 of them at a time and I still own one. To my knowledge, the maximum delay time is 23 seconds. Unless Boss has upgraded the memory on the things, I suspect it still = is. You might want to check, if this is important to you, before you buy. On the other side, it is a useful pedal indeed. Like you said, I too use the Delay Mode at (or near) 100% feedback = instead of the Loop Mode. Loop Mode reminded me too much of the RC-20 -- which I owned for less = than a week and took right back to Guitar Center for refund/trade-in on = another DD-20. Having lops that at least have the possibility of decay and change = seems a lot more musically useful and normal. There's my 2 cents. Good luck and welcome aboard. tEd =AE KiLLiAn www.tedkillian.com Different is not always better, but better is always different"=20 =20 =09 Flux Aeterna:=20 = http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=3D= 6378076=20 Also check out the 1st set of BEMF (Boise Experimental Music Festival) = CDs at:=20 http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/cd.htm=20 =20 =09 http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html=20 http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian=20 http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html=20 http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina=20 http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073=20 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314=20 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193=20 = http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&i= d=3D1211970 00042=20 =20 =09 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes,=20 BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster,=20 AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream,=20 RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks,=20 and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So???=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 13:35:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2A0B3BECA; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <9461802C-49F7-415B-9FF4-6B91C0B2B72B@numericable.fr> References: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> <9461802C-49F7-415B-9FF4-6B91C0B2B72B@numericable.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <3ef09a0d5102a3eee6b6d1bb5d5b967b@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Newbie! (DD 20 question) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 06:35:13 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Scott, On Oct 12, 2007, at 2:39 AM, Scott Stroud wrote: > When going through the DD 20 in delay mode (100% or near) can you cut=20= > off your input at some point, meaning can you get some loops (delays)=20= > going and then hit the pedal again and play over the delaying loops=20 > dry?=A0 Yes, this is exactly the way it operates in delay mode. > Am now waiting for my Lexicon Vortex which I got off ebay to arrive!!! What fun! I own a couple of those myself. I never play without at least one Andy Butler (also on the LD list) is a Master at getting the most out=20 of the Vortex. I think he has a web page somewhere dedicated to tips and tricks, etc. I don't have the link handy at the moment though. Cheers, Ted= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 13:39:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE7AA3BECD; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:39:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <470F7CAA.4080809@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:54:50 +0200 From: van Sinn Reply-To: vansinn@post.cybercity.dk Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight Subject: Controlling the Vortex - again.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:39:17 +0000 (UTC) Yes, I know, well-worn topic I went through Andy Butler's site and the archives for anything Vortex, MIDI CC to CV et al.. Seems noone ever really solved the issue. Some found a solution for the swell pedal using some CC->CV adapter, like the ProSolo or JKJ CV-3. I fully understand the problem of stepping through registers/presets, i.e. that stepping is always 'up', via a 4bit protocol, and that it's more than difficult to handle the where's-my-reference-point issue.. Did anyone ever come up with usable solutions to the preset stepping? My own take is simply using only two presets for special effects, so 'up' is always kinda round-robin between those two. My Vortex (still in transit from the US) comes with the foot switches; I expect decoding what they do and interface some MIDI on/off switches (FCB1010 or Sholtz Octopus) to trigger those. WRT MIDI swell, I won't invest into far more features than needed. Two seems usable: Doepfer MCV4: http://www.doepfer.de/mcv4.htm, and JKJ CV-3, both of which can be had at a fair price. As no CV-3 manual seems available, I'm not sure about hooking up, but from pics would guess it's just cables in, adjust trimmers and go.. Anything I need to know? Don't see how the lfo may be used, unless there's some way of remotely switch it in/out et al.. The MCV4 is a sexy little thing to have at the back of a Vortex, and is my primary candidate ATM. Comments? -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 13:44:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 894923BED6; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:44:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Newbie! (DD 20 question) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:44:43 +0200 Message-ID: <200710121344.l9CDiguB029377@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> In-Reply-To: <3ef09a0d5102a3eee6b6d1bb5d5b967b@charter.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Newbie! (DD 20 question) Thread-Index: AcgM1MhYlCPoqnc/RNetO2ka1Vd2QQAAK42A References: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> <9461802C-49F7-415B-9FF4-6B91C0B2B72B@numericable.fr> <3ef09a0d5102a3eee6b6d1bb5d5b967b@charter.net> From: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Oct 2007 13:44:44.0333 (UTC) FILETIME=[0BF6FDD0:01C80CD6] Resent-Message-ID: <8CeQ3C.A.ywC.Qp3DHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:44:48 +0000 (UTC) SO, HOW EXACTLY DOES THIS WORK? MY THEORY ON HOW IT MIGHT WORK; YOU STOMP TO TURN THE DELAY ON (100% FDBK), THEN GO TO TOWN AND CREATE A = COUPLE OF LOOPS THAT WILL GO ON FOR FOREVER. THEN YOU STOMP AGAIN TO = TURN THE DELAY MODE OFF, BUT THE LOOPS YOU'VE ALREADY CREATED KEEP = GOING? THEN YOU CAN CONTINUE PLAYING OVER THEM IN NORMAL (NO DELAY = ANYMORE) MODE? =20 -----Original Message----- From: tEd =AE KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net]=20 Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 3:35 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Newbie! (DD 20 question) Scott, On Oct 12, 2007, at 2:39 AM, Scott Stroud wrote: > When going through the DD 20 in delay mode (100% or near) can you cut=20 > off your input at some point, meaning can you get some loops (delays)=20 > going and then hit the pedal again and play over the delaying loops=20 > dry?=A0 Yes, this is exactly the way it operates in delay mode. > Am now waiting for my Lexicon Vortex which I got off ebay to arrive!!! What fun! I own a couple of those myself. I never play without at least one Andy Butler (also on the LD list) is a Master at getting the most out=20 of the Vortex. I think he has a web page somewhere dedicated to tips and tricks, etc. I don't have the link handy at the moment though. Cheers, Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 14:09:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8001A3BED2; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:09:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <200710121344.l9CDiguB029377@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> References: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> <9461802C-49F7-415B-9FF4-6B91C0B2B72B@numericable.fr> <3ef09a0d5102a3eee6b6d1bb5d5b967b@charter.net> <200710121344.l9CDiguB029377@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Newbie! (DD 20 question) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 07:09:32 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:09:38 +0000 (UTC) Yes, exactly. In DELAY MODE stomp the left-hand pedal to start delaying your audio input. Stomp again when satisfied with the loop you've created and continue to "solo" over it without adding any more to it. Stomp again when you want to add more to the loop. If you want . . . Occasionally adjust feedback knob downward from 100% so older loop material fades in relation to newer stuff added. This way your loops can evolve and change. Cheers, Ted On Oct 12, 2007, at 6:44 AM, Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA wrote: > SO, HOW EXACTLY DOES THIS WORK? > MY THEORY ON HOW IT MIGHT WORK; > YOU STOMP TO TURN THE DELAY ON (100% FDBK), THEN GO TO TOWN AND CREATE > A COUPLE OF LOOPS THAT WILL GO ON FOR FOREVER. THEN YOU STOMP AGAIN TO > TURN THE DELAY MODE OFF, BUT THE LOOPS YOU'VE ALREADY CREATED KEEP > GOING? THEN YOU CAN CONTINUE PLAYING OVER THEM IN NORMAL (NO DELAY > ANYMORE) MODE? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 14:50:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4AEA83BEC5; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> <9461802C-49F7-415B-9FF4-6B91C0B2B72B@numericable.fr> <3ef09a0d5102a3eee6b6d1bb5d5b967b@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <3ef09a0d5102a3eee6b6d1bb5d5b967b@charter.net> Subject: vortex Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 07:50:03 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c80cdf$2cbbe1d0$8633a570$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgM1iaWj+cDJ1BjTY+gp0qJJlPmqgACMlvA Content-Language: en-us X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: D8bca02030000f4d5.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:50:09 +0000 (UTC) The vortex seems very popular with loopers and experimentalists. In a nutshell, what does it do? -Qua -----Original Message----- From: tEd R KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net] >> Am now waiting for my Lexicon Vortex which I got off ebay to arrive!!! What fun! I own a couple of those myself. I never play without at least one Andy Butler (also on the LD list) is a Master at getting the most out of the Vortex. I think he has a web page somewhere dedicated to tips and tricks, etc. I don't have the link handy at the moment though. Cheers, Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 14:54:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8E8E3BED0; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:54:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: midifriedchicken@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: On vs off topic -and- irritating people... Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:54:37 +0000 Message-Id: <101220071454.15174.470F8AAC000D057C00003B462216549976020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWlkaWZyaWVkY2hpY2tlbkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_15174_1192200877_0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:54:39 +0000 (UTC) --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_15174_1192200877_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit If you are worried about being irritated, turn off your computer. So many forums are way too sensitive about this. One in particular, the Acoustic Guitar Forum is so worried about people feelings, you can't offer any critisism without somebody crying to the moderators. Hence, all critical thought is squelched. Everybodys crappy MP3 is "wonderful". Unless your talking to a child, I say anything goes. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Wordsman, Lee" > > Cara, > > You make your point perfectly and I agree. It seems having two lists > could stifle some of the dialogue that ultimately does loop back to > topic (most times). Some of the off topic stuff also helps put some > personality behind the community, which I don't think is a bad thing. > > I receive the digest version and but not in the manner that Per > describes. I don't get one super post, I get a list of each individual > post that I can click on if the subject heading interests me. Do others > receive the digest in a different format? > > Lee > -----Original Message----- > From: Cara Quinn [mailto:CaraQuinn@onemodelplace.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 3:06 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: On vs off topic -and- irritating people... > > Hi Per, thanks for your reply. Yes, I'm familiar with filtering and > such, and am subscribed to several email lists that all go to > appropriate > inboxes, or multiple lists to one, so I'm completely comfortable with > doing > that, but the points I was trying to make, I think might have been > lost... > > Firstly, having all of the LD traffic, (whatever that may be) on one > 'LD' list, promotes a smooth flow of ideas from extreme to extreme, > which > is personally, what keeps me coming back here to this list. Without > that, > honestly, the list would hold considerably less interest for me. :) > -Just > my own opinion, of course... > > Secondly, if a second list is to exist, and be somehow affiliated > with > LD, why should the moderation style HERE change? I know we've said that > > the status quo is to be preserved here, but as long as 'OT' posts are > going > somewhere else, that's not really happening in practice is it?... > In other words, rather than simply letting this list adapt as it has > done before, to accommodate people, actual material that would have gone > to > THIS list is now, not. So, instead of simple changes to the existing > flow, > to adapt it, it's being completely diverted, in an 'all or nothing' > fashion. Does that make sense?... Furthermore, there is now more > bandwidth on a regular basis about what is on vs what is off > topic! lol! Isn't this exactly the sort of thing we were trying to > avoid?... lol! -And of course, my own posts here, not withstanding! > :) > > Now, having said all of this, as I understood what happened a few > weeks > ago, people were simply not happy about a book discussion which they > felt > interfered with the gear chat... So, a new list was started, where > things > like book chats could happen. I.E. LDOT... > > What I'm wondering is why the exclusive / heavily moderated gear chat > > and more extreme on topic format nature couldn't be applied to THAT list > > rather than this one?... Why do the book chats need to leave and the > gear > chat stay?... Why can't the book chats stay, and the gear chat stay as > well?... :) -But, the extreme no-frills 'on topic' gear chat could > move > to the new list... > Meanwhile, here on this list, we could simply continue as is, or was, > rather, :) and just be more aware and practice better netiquette and > have > both book chats AND gear chats?... This doesn't, at the moment, seem to > be > what is happening. (even though we say it's supposed to) If I'm > mistaken, > then so be it, but I don't think I am... > > Lastly, as for my own personal thoughts on subbing to the new list, > (aside from my mention above, of the notion of too much > compartmentalization of the flow of ideas, causing interference in > effect) > just in a general access sense, different lists cause my email client > and > screen reader to ;display header info differently, so in effect, > different > lists are easier and less time consuming for me to read. This is one of > > the easy ones, whereas Google (while definitely not being the most > difficult) is not... So for me, joining a chat list in that format > would > only be a nuisance. And, as I'd mentioned above, even if I did, the > flow > that has happened HERE, because of both extremes being present, still > wouldn't exist. It's like separating a cake out into it's ingredients, > and > serving them. :) Sure, you'd still get what's in the cake, BUT IT'S > NOT A > CAKE!!! :) lol! > > Am I making sense now?... > > So, what I'm saying is that I think fragmenting like this is changing > > the primary nature of the list. If that's what people want, then fine, > that's cool! :) It's just not MY personal preference... :) > > -And, as long as there is some sort of venue which is sort of, but > not > quite, affiliated with LD, where the book posts go, :) rather than > going > here, this list is a different place... Does that make sense?... > > > Anyway, I hope I've clarified my points. Have a terrific day!... > > Smiles, > > Cara :) > > At 09:16 AM 10/11/2007 +0200, you wrote: > > >Just a reminder of what initially kicked off this discussion, since > >no one have so far mentioned that in this new thread. It was about > >making life a little easier for those who struggle with a digest > >version of the list. In the digest version many letters are baked > >into one super letter, which means the user can not use normal e-mail > >filtering. Especially problematic for digest reading is when someone > >quotes way too much and out of context. > > > >But people, please don't stop quoting now! Intelligent quoting makes > >reading a lot easier and is generally regarded as good mailing list > >manners. When replying, you should keep just as much of the old text > >needed for a new reader to get the background to your own reply. Drag > >with mouse button held down to mark text that you want to quote, hit > >Reply, type something and finally hit Send. > > > >Thank you, Travis, for posting the list rules to the list. It just > >dawned on me that I have never seen those on the list and that's bad. > >Most lists have an automatic function that posts the general list > >rules once a month to the list, just as a reminder. > > > >The "mysterious LDOT list" is not associated with this list in any > >way other than that it was crated as a private initiative by a member > >of this list and that some more members of this list is subscribing > >to it. I personally use it to post things like guitar amp reviews, > >funny stories or whatever not looping oriented. As for Cara's wish of > >having it all on this list I would like to suggest a way to make that > >happen in your own praxis; simply subscribe to the other list and set > >you mail application to dump those mails into the same box as the LD > >list. You don't even have to know to which list a single message > >belongs - hit reply and it goes back through the same "list channel" > >where it came in. > > > >Greetings from Sweden > > > >Per Boysen > >www.boysen.se (Swedish) > >www.looproom.com (international) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >No virus found in this incoming message. > >Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: > >269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: 10/9/2007 4:43 PM > > --- > View my on-line portfolio at: > > http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each > other. -Then, anything is possible..." > > http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.14.6/1060 - Release Date: > 10/9/2007 4:43 PM > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_15174_1192200877_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    If you are worried about being irritated, turn off your computer. So many forums are way too sensitive about this. One in particular, the Acoustic Guitar Forum is so worried about people feelings, you can't offer any critisism without somebody crying to the moderators. Hence, all critical thought is squelched. Everybodys crappy MP3 is "wonderful". Unless your talking to a child, I say anything goes.
     
    -------------- Original message --------------
    From: "Wordsman, Lee" <LWordsman@PIRNIE.COM>

    >
    > Cara,
    >
    > You make your point perfectly and I agree. It seems having two lists
    > could stifle some of the dialogue that ultimately does loop back to
    > topic (most times). Some of the off topic stuff also helps put some
    > personality behind the community, which I don't think is a bad thing.
    >
    > I receive the digest version and but not in the manner that Per
    > describes. I don't get one super post, I get a list of each individual
    > post that I can click on if the subject heading interests me. Do others
    > receive the digest in a different format?
    >
    > Lee
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Cara Quinn [mailto:CaraQuinn@onemodelplace.com]
    > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 3 :06 PM
    > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    > Subject: Re: On vs off topic -and- irritating people...
    >
    > Hi Per, thanks for your reply. Yes, I'm familiar with filtering and
    > such, and am subscribed to several email lists that all go to
    > appropriate
    > inboxes, or multiple lists to one, so I'm completely comfortable with
    > doing
    > that, but the points I was trying to make, I think might have been
    > lost...
    >
    > Firstly, having all of the LD traffic, (whatever that may be) on one
    > 'LD' list, promotes a smooth flow of ideas from extreme to extreme,
    > which
    > is personally, what keeps me coming back here to this list. Without
    > that,
    > honestly, the list would hold considerably less interest for me. :)
    > -Just
    > my own opinion, of course...
    >
    > Secondly, if a second list is to exist, and be somehow affiliated
    > with
    > LD , why should the moderation style HERE change? I know we've said that
    >
    > the status quo is to be preserved here, but as long as 'OT' posts are
    > going
    > somewhere else, that's not really happening in practice is it?...
    > In other words, rather than simply letting this list adapt as it has
    > done before, to accommodate people, actual material that would have gone
    > to
    > THIS list is now, not. So, instead of simple changes to the existing
    > flow,
    > to adapt it, it's being completely diverted, in an 'all or nothing'
    > fashion. Does that make sense?... Furthermore, there is now more
    > bandwidth on a regular basis about what is on vs what is off
    > topic! lol! Isn't this exactly the sort of thing we were trying to
    > avoid?... lol! -And of course, my own posts here, not withstanding!
    > :)
    >
    > Now, having said all of this, as I understood what happened a few
    > week s
    > ago, people were simply not happy about a book discussion which they
    > felt
    > interfered with the gear chat... So, a new list was started, where
    > things
    > like book chats could happen. I.E. LDOT...
    >
    > What I'm wondering is why the exclusive / heavily moderated gear chat
    >
    > and more extreme on topic format nature couldn't be applied to THAT list
    >
    > rather than this one?... Why do the book chats need to leave and the
    > gear
    > chat stay?... Why can't the book chats stay, and the gear chat stay as
    > well?... :) -But, the extreme no-frills 'on topic' gear chat could
    > move
    > to the new list...
    > Meanwhile, here on this list, we could simply continue as is, or was,
    > rather, :) and just be more aware and practice better netiquette and
    > have
    > both book chats AND gear chats?... This doesn't, at the moment, seem to
    > be
    > what is happening. (even though we say it's supposed to) If I'm
    > mistaken,
    > then so be it, but I don't think I am...
    >
    > Lastly, as for my own personal thoughts on subbing to the new list,
    > (aside from my mention above, of the notion of too much
    > compartmentalization of the flow of ideas, causing interference in
    > effect)
    > just in a general access sense, different lists cause my email client
    > and
    > screen reader to ;display header info differently, so in effect,
    > different
    > lists are easier and less time consuming for me to read. This is one of
    >
    > the easy ones, whereas Google (while definitely not being the most
    > difficult) is not... So for me, joining a chat list in that format
    > would
    > only be a nuisance. And, as I'd mentioned above, even if I did, the
    > flow
    > that has happened HERE, because of both extremes being present, still
    > would n't exist. It's like separating a cake out into it's ingredients,
    > and
    > serving them. :) Sure, you'd still get what's in the cake, BUT IT'S
    > NOT A
    > CAKE!!! :) lol!
    >
    > Am I making sense now?...
    >
    > So, what I'm saying is that I think fragmenting like this is changing
    >
    > the primary nature of the list. If that's what people want, then fine,
    > that's cool! :) It's just not MY personal preference... :)
    >
    > -And, as long as there is some sort of venue which is sort of, but
    > not
    > quite, affiliated with LD, where the book posts go, :) rather than
    > going
    > here, this list is a different place... Does that make sense?...
    >
    >
    > Anyway, I hope I've clarified my points. Have a terrific day!...
    >
    > Smiles,
    >
    > Cara :)
    >
    > At 09:16 AM 10/11/2007 +0200, you wrote:
    >
    > >Just a reminder of what initially kicked off this discussion, since
    > >no one have so far mentioned that in this new thread. It was about
    > >making life a little easier for those who struggle with a digest
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    > >filtering. Especially problematic for digest reading is when someone
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    --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_15174_1192200877_0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 14:57:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 662113BED8; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: midifriedchicken@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Newbie! (DD 20 question) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:56:57 +0000 Message-Id: <101220071456.27637.470F8B39000A413400006BF52216549976020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWlkaWZyaWVkY2hpY2tlbkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_27637_1192201017_0" Resent-Message-ID: <7tkSqB.A.ThD.7s4DHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:57:00 +0000 (UTC) --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_27637_1192201017_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Roland just reissued the Space Delay in a double pedal. Looks very cool and it got an excellent review in Music Tech Magazine. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" > I was wondering about that also! I guess I will find out soon enough. I ordered > a Gigadelay yesterday! > I would assume that if it is like most other delay pedals, you stomp to turn > delay on and if you stomp again you turn the delay off. BUT!....since it is > fancy, maybe you stomp and turn off delay mode, but delays keep going! That > would be cool! > As soon as I get mine, I will let you know! > > david > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Stroud [mailto:scotty@numericable.fr] > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:39 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Newbie! (DD 20 question) > > Hello Ted, or anyone else savy to this question > > When going through the DD 20 in delay mode (100% or near) can you cut off your > input at some point, meaning can you get some loops (delays) going and then hit > the pedal again and play over the delaying loops dry? > > BTW I was at a small experimental gig in the local art museum which featured > Keith Rowe last night. Not a looper per se, but a pretty big guy in the electro > acoustic field. He lives here now in West France. > > Just thought I'd mention it. > > Thanks for any info. Still looking for the right pedal. Was leaning towards a > used boomerang, but they've been going quite dear on ebay of late. Don't really > fancy the rc 20 stuff. Not sure I really want to bridge out to the laptop set up > either, afraid I'd or someone else would spill beer all down it's front. > Sticking with my Headrush for the mo, until illumination comes from above. It's > just so damn short if you want to overdub > > I use it on both voice and instruments. I also use a Boss digital delay on the > voice, which I play around with when my hands are free. > > Am now waiting for my Lexicon Vortex which I got off ebay to arrive!!! > > thanks anyone > > scott > > > Le 11 oct. 07 à 16:32, tEd ® KiLLiAn a écrit : > > > Hi there! > > On Oct 11, 2007, at 7:14 AM, Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA wrote: > > > If I set a Gigadelay to 100% feedback, then everything I play > will get > repeated for forever! Unlimited looping! 46 seconds is long > enough too! > > > The DD-20 is something I've frequently used. > > I've owned up to 3 of them at a time and I still own one. > > To my knowledge, the maximum delay time is 23 seconds. > > Unless Boss has upgraded the memory on the things, I suspect it still > is. > > You might want to check, if this is important to you, before you buy. > > On the other side, it is a useful pedal indeed. > > Like you said, I too use the Delay Mode at (or near) 100% feedback > instead of the Loop Mode. > > Loop Mode reminded me too much of the RC-20 -- which I owned for less > than a week and took right back to Guitar Center for refund/trade-in on another > DD-20. > > Having lops that at least have the possibility of decay and change seems > a lot more musically useful and normal. > > There's my 2 cents. > > Good luck and welcome aboard. > > tEd ® KiLLiAn > > www.tedkillian.com > > Different is not always better, but better is always different" > > > > > Flux Aeterna: > > http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=6378076 > > Also check out the 1st set of BEMF (Boise Experimental Music Festival) > CDs at: > http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/cd.htm > > > > > http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html > http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian > http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html > http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina > http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=2845073 > http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=CBNM_17314 > http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=193 > > http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=view_profile&id=1211970 > 00042 > > > > > Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, > BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, > AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, > RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, > and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? > > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_27637_1192201017_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    Roland just reissued the Space Delay in a double pedal. Looks very cool and it got an excellent review in Music Tech Magazine.
     
    -------------- Original message --------------
    From: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" <David.Moore@ramstein.af.mil>

    > I was wondering about that also! I guess I will find out soon enough. I ordered
    > a Gigadelay yesterday!
    > I would assume that if it is like most other delay pedals, you stomp to turn
    > delay on and if you stomp again you turn the delay off. BUT!....since it is
    > fancy, maybe you stomp and turn off delay mode, but delays keep going! That
    > would be cool!
    > As soon as I get mine, I will let you know!
    >
    > david
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Scott Stroud [mailto:scotty@numericable.fr]
    > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 11:39 AM
    > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    > Subject: Re: Newbie! (DD 20 question)
    >
    > Hello Ted, or anyone else savy to this question
    >
    > When going through the DD 20 in delay mode (100% or near) can you cut off your
    > input at some point, meaning can you get some loops (delays) going and then hit
    > the pedal again and play over the delaying loops dry?
    >
    > BTW I was at a small experimental gig in the local art museum which featured
    > Keith Rowe last night. Not a looper per se, but a pretty big guy in the electro
    > acoustic field. He lives here now in West France.
    >
    > Just thought I'd mention it.
    >
    > Thanks for any info. Still looking for the right pedal. Was leaning towards a
    > used boomerang, but they've been going quite dear on ebay of late. Don't really
    > fancy the rc 20 stuff. Not sure I really want to bridge out to the laptop set up
    > either, afraid I'd or someone else would spill beer all down it's front.
    > Sticking with my Headrush for the mo, until illu mination comes from above. It's
    > just so damn short if you want to overdub
    >
    > I use it on both voice and instruments. I also use a Boss digital delay on the
    > voice, which I play around with when my hands are free.
    >
    > Am now waiting for my Lexicon Vortex which I got off ebay to arrive!!!
    >
    > thanks anyone
    >
    > scott
    >
    >
    > Le 11 oct. 07 à 16:32, tEd ® KiLLiAn a écrit :
    >
    >
    > Hi there!
    >
    > On Oct 11, 2007, at 7:14 AM, Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA wrote:
    >
    >
    > If I set a Gigadelay to 100% feedback, then everything I play
    > will get
    > repeated for forever! Unlimited looping! 46 seconds is long
    > enough too!
    >
    >
    > The DD-20 is something I've frequently used.
    >
    > I've owned up to 3 of them at a time and I still own one.
    >
    > To my knowledge, the maximum delay time is 23 seconds.
    >
    > Unless Boss has upgraded the memory on the things, I suspect it still
    > is.
    >
    > You might want to check, if this is important to you, before you buy.
    >
    > On the other side, it is a useful pedal indeed.
    >
    > Like you said, I too use the Delay Mode at (or near) 100% feedback
    > instead of the Loop Mode.
    >
    > Loop Mode reminded me too much of the RC-20 -- which I owned for less
    > than a week and took right back to Guitar Center for refund/trade-in on another
    > DD-20.
    >
    > Having lops that at least have the possibility of decay and change seems
    > a lot more musically useful and normal.
    >
    > There's my 2 cents.
    >
    > Good luck and welcome aboard.
    >
    > tEd ® KiLLiAn
    >
    > www.tedkillian.com
    >
    > Different is not always better, but better is always different"
    >
    >
    >
    >
    &g t; Flux Aeterna:
    >
    > http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=6378076
    >
    > Also check out the 1st set of BEMF (Boise Experimental Music Festival)
    > CDs at:
    > http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/cd.htm
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html
    > http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian
    > http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html
    > http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina
    > http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=2845073
    > http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=CBNM_17314
    > http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=193
    >
    > http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=view_profile&id=1211970
    > 00042
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes,
    > BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Na pster,
    > AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream,
    > RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks,
    > and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So???
    >
    >
    --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_27637_1192201017_0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 15:07:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C36233BED2; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:07:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: midifriedchicken@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com (Loopers Delight) Subject: Gordius Midi Pedal. Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:07:39 +0000 Message-Id: <101220071507.20016.470F8DBB000A0A3500004E302216549976020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWlkaWZyaWVkY2hpY2tlbkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_20016_1192201659_0" Resent-Message-ID: <6ZcUHB.A.GYF.924DHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:07:41 +0000 (UTC) --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_20016_1192201659_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Since switching to a laptop for all signal processing, looping and mixing, I echo Krispen's need for "smallness". It actually becomes somewhat of a compulsion. Which is completely the opposite mindset of my previous 25 years of experience. The FCB is in fact big. I see the Gordius unit, and it looks solid and compact. Has anyone used one of these? Are the buttons loud? Can you rest your foot on a button without activating it? Any thoughts would be appreciated. Regards, MFC --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_20016_1192201659_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    Since switching to a laptop for all signal processing, looping and mixing, I echo Krispen's need for "smallness".  It actually becomes somewhat of a compulsion. Which is completely the opposite mindset of my previous 25 years of experience.
    The FCB is in fact big. I see the Gordius unit, and it looks solid and compact.
    Has anyone used one of these? Are the buttons loud? Can you rest your foot on a button without activating it?
     
    Any thoughts would be appreciated.
    Regards,
    MFC
     
     
    --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_20016_1192201659_0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 15:22:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A301C3BEC2; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:22:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> <9461802C-49F7-415B-9FF4-6B91C0B2B72B@numericable.fr> <3ef09a0d5102a3eee6b6d1bb5d5b967b@charter.net> <000001c80cdf$2cbbe1d0$8633a570$@com> In-Reply-To: <000001c80cdf$2cbbe1d0$8633a570$@com> Subject: RE: vortex Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:22:19 -0700 Message-ID: <000401c80ce3$ae2d4110$0a87c330$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgM1iaWj+cDJ1BjTY+gp0qJJlPmqgACMlvAAAEnLLA= Content-Language: en-us X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: D935a0039000007ba.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:22:20 +0000 (UTC) OK, I'm reading Andy's site, to get my answer. Still, would like to hear from a few users about what they like most about it. -Qua -----Original Message----- From: Qua Veda [mailto:qua@oregon.com] Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 7:50 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: vortex The vortex seems very popular with loopers and experimentalists. In a nutshell, what does it do? -Qua -----Original Message----- From: tEd R KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net] >> Am now waiting for my Lexicon Vortex which I got off ebay to arrive!!! What fun! I own a couple of those myself. I never play without at least one Andy Butler (also on the LD list) is a Master at getting the most out of the Vortex. I think he has a web page somewhere dedicated to tips and tricks, etc. I don't have the link handy at the moment though. Cheers, Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 15:46:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13B4B3BEDC; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 803359988 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: vortex Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:46:17 +0100 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7205935994@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <000001c80cdf$2cbbe1d0$8633a570$@com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: vortex Thread-Index: AcgM5wcKLdrru6jrSzSM573zGGlITQ== References: <000001c80cdf$2cbbe1d0$8633a570$@com> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Oct 2007 15:46:17.0906 (UTC) FILETIME=[0745E920:01C80CE7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:46:22 +0000 (UTC) =20 >>The vortex seems very popular with loopers and experimentalists. In a nutshell, what does it do?<< warped time-domain stuff, things that they had to make up new names for, based on extreme flanging & delay modulations. it can "morph" from one complete lot of settings to another (switch channels on y'r amp too, if you want it to) provided they live in the A & B "versions" of a memory. the lack of midi-control has rather put me off trying to integrate mine into a larger setup; it requires one's face-time to get the best out of it & can't really be behind the player in a rack.=20 incidentally, we solved this same issue with our first jam-man (same case design) by fitting a video-camera tripod mount to it's underside (warning- requires open-case surgery & will reduce e-bait value) & then plonking the lexicon on a normal cheap video camera tripod. after that, I did the same trick with a repeater for a while, then a bass-pod....=20 ahem. anyone else? my vortex experience is a little limited... d. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 15:57:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB4173BEDC; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:57:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <06b201c80ce8$8d13f320$4001a8c0@pcfabio> Reply-To: "e t e r o g e n e o" From: "e t e r o g e n e o" To: References: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> <9461802C-49F7-415B-9FF4-6B91C0B2B72B@numericable.fr> <3ef09a0d5102a3eee6b6d1bb5d5b967b@charter.net> <200710121344.l9CDiguB029377@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> Subject: Re: Newbie! (DD 20 question) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:57:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Spam-Rating: smtp5.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:57:26 +0000 (UTC) Welcome on board, David. You'll be happy with the DD-20, i'm sure. Post some of your experiments: I'm curious to listen how a looped shakuhachi sounds.... Best Fabio www.eterogeneo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" To: Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 3:44 PM Subject: RE: Newbie! (DD 20 question) SO, HOW EXACTLY DOES THIS WORK? MY THEORY ON HOW IT MIGHT WORK; YOU STOMP TO TURN THE DELAY ON (100% FDBK), THEN GO TO TOWN AND CREATE A COUPLE OF LOOPS THAT WILL GO ON FOR FOREVER. THEN YOU STOMP AGAIN TO TURN THE DELAY MODE OFF, BUT THE LOOPS YOU'VE ALREADY CREATED KEEP GOING? THEN YOU CAN CONTINUE PLAYING OVER THEM IN NORMAL (NO DELAY ANYMORE) MODE? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 16:02:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9E503BEDC; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:02:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <470F9E8A.3080005@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:19:22 +0200 From: van Sinn Reply-To: vansinn@post.cybercity.dk Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Gordius Midi Pedal. References: <101220071507.20016.470F8DBB000A0A3500004E302216549976020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <101220071507.20016.470F8DBB000A0A3500004E302216549976020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:02:06 +0000 (UTC) midifriedchicken@comcast.net wrote: > Since switching to a laptop for all signal processing, looping and > mixing, I echo Krispen's need for "smallness". It actually becomes > somewhat of a compulsion. Which is completely the opposite mindset of my > previous 25 years of experience. > The FCB is in fact big. I see the Gordius unit, and it looks solid and > compact. > Has anyone used one of these? Are the buttons loud? Can you rest your > foot on a button without activating it? > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. > Regards, > MFC I don't have it as yet, but will later. It's one feature laden little box! It's design and choise of buttons also makes it a candidate for desktop or keyboard rig applications, if foot operation isn't desired. I've done some work with Xavier at http://gordius.be on a rack version, that is, adding ideas on feature set, intended use, commenting manuals et al.. It started because I was tired of programming floorboards with my toes and wanted a rackmount controller. Being firmware updatable via USB is real nice WRT future feature sets. Xavier keeps an open approach to costumer ideas (though very busy ATM) BTW, he also made the well known UnO firmware for the FCB1010. The half-space rack version, which will hit the market at a later time, will host the same features as the Little Gordius Module. Having no buttons, it's designed as a host for one or two FCB1010 boards. Any button may be assigned to one's desire. I resently had a poll on MIDI floorboard features on the Adadepot, mostly for guitar players (also posted on some newsgroups), where I outlined some of it's features: http://www.adadepot.com/forum/index.php/topic,8768.msg68872.html#msg68872 Sorry I wasn't signed up in here at that time.. -- rgds, van Sinn From onlineservice@desjardins.com Fri Oct 12 16:10:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 723 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:10:54 UTC Received: from mail.premierwichita.com (mail.premierwichita.com [64.66.94.170]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A763BEAB for ; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:10:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([87.118.96.187]) by mail.premierwichita.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:58:09 -0500 From: "Desjardins AccesD" Subject: IMPORTANT - Customer Service Message Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:59:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 1 X-MSMail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Oct 2007 15:58:09.0203 (UTC) FILETIME=[AF3D3830:01C80CE8] To: undisclosed-recipients:; Dear Wells Fargo

     

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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 16:22:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED93F3BED8; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:22:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:23:21 -0400 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: 46 Seconds from the Boss DD-20 (Was Newbie!) To: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <004601c80cec$4ab8cf60$261bbe18@oemcomputer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <200710121215.l9CCFLuB024731@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:22:44 +0000 (UTC) > I DID A LOT OF READING OF ALL THE REVIEWS TO FIND OUT WHICH ONE I > WANTED! > I ORDERED MY GIGADELAY YESTERDAY!!! > I'M VERY EXCITED! > > THANX EVERYONE! > DAVID I guess you are VERY excited, David. You're always SHOUTING... ;-) dB From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 16:47:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E25F3BED0; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:47:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3844 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:47:10 UTC Message-ID: <009a01c80ce6$94a06490$5901a8c0@bobdell> Reply-To: "Bob Amstadt" From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> <9461802C-49F7-415B-9FF4-6B91C0B2B72B@numericable.fr> <3ef09a0d5102a3eee6b6d1bb5d5b967b@charter.net> <000001c80cdf$2cbbe1d0$8633a570$@com> Subject: Re: vortex Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 08:43:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <1oMFbB.A.DSE.OU6DHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:47:11 +0000 (UTC) The Vortex is insanely fun. As a looper, you only get a couple of seconds of looping, but the beauty of this device is their morphing technology. You can take two different effects and slowly morph between them using your pedal to control the morph. It is an extremely fun tool. > The vortex seems very popular with loopers and experimentalists. > In a nutshell, what does it do? > -Qua From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 16:50:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D22F33BED6; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:50:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7205935994@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> References: <000001c80cdf$2cbbe1d0$8633a570$@com> <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7205935994@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: vortex Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:50:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:50:26 +0000 (UTC) On Oct 12, 2007, at 8:46 AM, Goddard, Duncan wrote: > > the lack of midi-control has rather put me off trying to integrate > mine into a larger setup; it requires one's face-time to get the > best out of > it & can't really be behind the player in a rack. Different strokes for different folks. The above "drawbacks" are of no real concern to me, personally. I suppose that is based on how I personally create, too. But, I can also completely understand why Duncan states what he does. Makes sense coming from his angle. I have had 2 Vortex units for quite awhile now and love 'em. Seemingly endless possibilities to do what they were designed to do. Not sure why Alesis decided to stop manufacturing and selling them as quickly as they did, since they are still sought after, even today. But, that's one of the all-too-familiar-now mystery experiences in the music biz. :-) I picked up my 2nd Vortex last year for a mere $56 (w/ power adapter, as well) at a used gear shop here in Portland,OR. Works great. My original one I bought ages ago, soon after they first came out and never regretted that decision. It still works just as good as new today. For those that are interested in doing so, I REVcommend getting one these wonderful devices. -Rev. Fever From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 16:56:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7021C3BED9; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:56:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=2txJ3OnGoeFReJNJmXQUjORMTAB6vg1buLSWn9wdffg=; b=BU3lwCrAw6u8DQl2MQZWwRjGkj3K/MkgXqvQ6Fz8rGIbfP3X0dLI6zhFEIr0nFVltG5DOs8nbde4KfMad96ArOvDY7/GreLw395PdAWpfL953CYoX8L2d6fAuvQuuYBOZsxrchCW7x/DH/zCnyhGUxHK4RVQk4gvdyOg/cIcr9g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mKKov5HixBzgk9Yoyarl+u5Amw3jQP5Q3qoloo0Ui+TkSXeWD4Q1n+fhn/PV/d3i262rukMU58d+PWwutX0gxaAtXAN5ZlnZy2V3Nsi5HtimTaryshUxPwQ1SqgVyJzErgYilm7x2sEhlyQMl6/iMEc1HohXdZSWqzBOGU5LUvs= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:56:25 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: vortex In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000001c80cdf$2cbbe1d0$8633a570$@com> <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7205935994@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:56:27 +0000 (UTC) When Lexicon first introduced them, they went for something like $399, and bombed. It was only after Guitar Center blew them out at like $129 that they really caught on. Four bills for something that wouldn't do "the basics" (basic chorus/reverb/delay) and had no MIDI didn't sit well with the market at the time, and the morphing thing was too esoteric to go over with the masses. I remember mine being too sensitive on input headroom, i.e. it didn't seem to have any. Plus, a fair amount of hiss on several patches and a crap UI. There were some great sounds in it though. TH On 10/12/07, Rev Fever wrote: > > I have had 2 Vortex units for quite awhile now and love 'em. > Seemingly endless possibilities to do what they were designed to do. > Not sure why Alesis decided to stop manufacturing and selling them as > quickly as they did, since they are still sought after, even today. > But, that's one of the all-too-familiar-now mystery experiences in > the music biz. :-) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 17:30:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 905003BEDB; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1208 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:30:02 UTC Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:09:49 -0600 Message-Id: <200710121709.l9CH9n3g020801@minds-eye.org> From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: kevin@minds-eye.org Subject: Re: vortex X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 137.150.33.94 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Make sure you connect an expression pedal to the box to really get the most out of it. That way you can control the morphing speed AND you can stop in mid-morph if you get a really great texture on the way between the two settings. Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 17:33:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E7C63BEE0; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0dae01c80cf5$fdda1d70$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> <9461802C-49F7-415B-9FF4-6B91C0B2B72B@numericable.fr> <3ef09a0d5102a3eee6b6d1bb5d5b967b@charter.net> <000001c80cdf$2cbbe1d0$8633a570$@com> <009a01c80ce6$94a06490$5901a8c0@bobdell> Subject: Re: vortex Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 11:33:22 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Qua, there is also a Reaktor ensemble that works under a similar principal, though is by no means a Vortex emulation. The developer originally started with the vision of it being a Vortex like patch, but it "morphed" into something else unique. I can send you the file. It allows you to morph from one set of paramater settings to another. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Amstadt" To: Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:43 AM Subject: Re: vortex > The Vortex is insanely fun. As a looper, you only get a couple of seconds > of looping, but the beauty of this device is their morphing technology. > You can take two different effects and slowly morph between them using > your pedal to control the morph. It is an extremely fun tool. > >> The vortex seems very popular with loopers and experimentalists. >> In a nutshell, what does it do? >> -Qua > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 17:40:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1792F3BEDF; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:40:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <403AC33A-F0D8-48D2-BF00-E0A63ABF0734@ubergadget.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-12--844716125 References: <261170.55777.qm@web57502.mail.re1.yahoo.com> From: Rev Fever Subject: OT (but "unusual" ) Playing his beard, and more... Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 10:40:48 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:40:53 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-12--844716125 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I thought I would share the video of this "unique" performance that I recently got turned onto. (at least the first part is, er...uh......."unusual") What a character! Enjoy. :-) -Rev. Fever > I knew he would/can play pretty much anything, but,... his > beard !? > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGaaxlvP-BA&eurl= > --Apple-Mail-12--844716125 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I thought I would share the = video of this "unique" performance that I recently got turned = onto.

    (at least the first = part is, er...uh......."unusual")=A0 =A0 =A0What a character!=A0=A0Enjoy. = :-)

    -Rev. = Fever

    I=A0 knew=A0 he=A0 would/can play pretty=A0 much=A0 = anything, but,... his=A0 beard !?
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    = --Apple-Mail-12--844716125-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 18:31:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D2663BED9; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:31:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "nick@12testing.net" To: , "Qua Veda" Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:29:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: vortex Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <470FCB26.32502.2348351@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <000001c80cdf$2cbbe1d0$8633a570$@com> References: <000001c80cdf$2cbbe1d0$8633a570$@com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:31:30 +0000 (UTC) On 12 Oct 2007 at 7:50, Qua Veda wrote: > Andy Butler (also on the LD list) is a Master at getting the most out > of the Vortex. > I think he has a web page somewhere dedicated to tips and tricks, etc. http://www.andybutler.com/vortex/vortex.htm I've recently picked one up, but haven't mastered or edited it sufficiently to use live yet. Serious fun, but I wish it had a dedicated mix knob. It covers similar ground to my main "spatial" tool, the Red federation FX pro http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct99/articles/redsound.htm but has more sophisticated echo facilities, plus the morph feature. I'm playing a gig with Andy in Norwich this weekend (plus Stephen Scott) and will be able to see him vorting his tex live! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 19:19:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C9053BEDB; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:19:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:19:50 UTC X-YMail-OSG: oXLiThsVM1lWY_CNLEFgEfQ7b6NBEGnnRAciGdfygViJdSh6WX5JRu_LCs8R3HJfljHnfICdiw-- Message-ID: <002801c80d03$e9d80310$4101a8c0@MICHAELPLISHKA> From: "Michael Plishka" To: References: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> <9461802C-49F7-415B-9FF4-6B91C0B2B72B@numericable.fr> <3ef09a0d5102a3eee6b6d1bb5d5b967b@charter.net> <200710121344.l9CDiguB029377@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> Subject: Re: Newbie! (DD 20 question) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:13:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:19:50 +0000 (UTC) Can the feedback on the DD20 be adjusted with another pedal or does it have to be a knob? ----- Original Message ----- From: "tEd ® KiLLiAn" To: Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 9:09 AM Subject: Re: Newbie! (DD 20 question) > Yes, exactly. > > In DELAY MODE stomp the left-hand pedal to start delaying your audio > input. > > Stomp again when satisfied with the loop you've created and continue to > "solo" over it without adding any more to it. > > Stomp again when you want to add more to the loop. > > If you want . . . > > Occasionally adjust feedback knob downward from 100% so older loop > material fades in relation to newer stuff added. > > This way your loops can evolve and change. > > Cheers, > > Ted > > On Oct 12, 2007, at 6:44 AM, Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA wrote: > >> SO, HOW EXACTLY DOES THIS WORK? >> MY THEORY ON HOW IT MIGHT WORK; >> YOU STOMP TO TURN THE DELAY ON (100% FDBK), THEN GO TO TOWN AND CREATE A >> COUPLE OF LOOPS THAT WILL GO ON FOR FOREVER. THEN YOU STOMP AGAIN TO TURN >> THE DELAY MODE OFF, BUT THE LOOPS YOU'VE ALREADY CREATED KEEP GOING? THEN >> YOU CAN CONTINUE PLAYING OVER THEM IN NORMAL (NO DELAY ANYMORE) MODE? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 19:36:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A9CD3BEDD; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:36:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20071012153631.WAMUR.153036.root@fepweb01> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 12:36:31 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Newbie! (DD 20 question) Cc: Michael Plishka In-Reply-To: <002801c80d03$e9d80310$4101a8c0@MICHAELPLISHKA> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:36:32 +0000 (UTC) Greetings, ---- Michael Plishka wrote: > Can the feedback on the DD20 be adjusted with another pedal or does it have > to be a knob? Well, it all depends. A few (very few) manufacturers have made pedals that will turn stompbox knobs for you via a mechanical cable. I have never used one of these however. The whole idea sounds rather kluge-y to me. Electro Harmonix made one and I think another company continues to make something of the sort. But, back to your question, if you are expecting an expression pedal input or something of that nature, no there is none. Sorry. Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 19:39:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBB303BED9; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 417 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:39:21 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=1JCIbHY0ZYDYVIbkuueE68Qe+/wJjf6iIV0HRvxYWJE=; b=rqESEBYAWxJoVVOukU5aJZRGmabDasP0cikvQuFZOLNl4Q2eGfay2696VfiiFrKu+6DJ/KMxqpSfsfLJgD+8WYblEDwrvq8pTzfbvqlNFgPMS5eDzZy30VF4OpHukzyEn31DzlDu6bSNUuiLNPxUiteMigk28/Z+ZVnqbmB4pZ8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WOjTwSEGJJcRsZBDh1LfWeIHu6IgIUDPpKLGOyAQyUZwLv5xI2yBTuz8fuRH0p5XIK/ScoBgoWQu2rDJHbiUrkdUdzV1OaNu1NBIF6xzi/fa0ZyAozLpKq7fFaHHOXenmH9LG+GiScarRimYVAMdzxSrKIDtrSLVqT/2yPLyN1M= Message-ID: <64b81a780710121232l35129eb2vc010437b58c9bf23@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:32:23 -0400 From: "Todd Pafford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: vortex In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7205935994@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000001c80cdf$2cbbe1d0$8633a570$@com> <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7205935994@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Resent-Message-ID: <110NvD.A.N7F.p18DHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Just to clarify on the Vortex Morphing capability for those entirely unfamiliar with the device... The Vortex doesn't just morph between settings on similar effects, e.g. 100ms delay time -> 200ms delay time, but can actually morph between two completely unrelated effects chains and all relevant settings. As a simplified example, imagine having one chain that goes instrument > chorus > delay1 > amp, and another chain that goes instrument > delay2 > flange > amp. The Vortex morph gives you the ability to morph between these two chains so that in the middle of the morph you've got some strange chain like instrument > (chorus) > (delay1 + delay2) > (flange) > amp Now, add to that the truly insane effect chains that make up each Vortex preset and you've got some really fun audio chemistry to play with. I recommend downloading a copy of the Vortex user's manual as it contains descriptions of all of this and detailed diagrams of each preset's effect chain. (The preset diagrams begin on page 26 of the manual, the 29th page in the PDF file.) Todd On 10/12/07, Goddard, Duncan wrote: > > >>The vortex seems very popular with loopers and experimentalists. > In a nutshell, what does it do?<< > > warped time-domain stuff, things that they had to make up new names for, > based on extreme flanging & delay modulations. it can "morph" from one > complete lot of settings to another (switch channels on y'r amp too, if > you want it to) provided they live in the A & B "versions" of a memory. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 19:43:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EFF33BEE1; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <3ef09a0d5102a3eee6b6d1bb5d5b967b@charter.net> References: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> <9461802C-49F7-415B-9FF4-6B91C0B2B72B@numericable.fr> <3ef09a0d5102a3eee6b6d1bb5d5b967b@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Scott Stroud Subject: Re: Newbie! (DD 20 question) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:36:50 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:43:23 +0000 (UTC) Yes, I can't wait. Thanks for the info about Andy Butler, I had seen =20 it and his sight was probably the clinching reason I went for it, =20 after hearing the vortex pop up here and there in this forum and =20 elsewhere. He talks about a non lexicon footswitch but it doesn't =20 seem very available today. Any news from anyone out there using =20 footswitches? cheers, scott Le 12 oct. 07 =E0 15:35, tEd =AE KiLLiAn a =E9crit : > Scott, > > On Oct 12, 2007, at 2:39 AM, Scott Stroud wrote: > >> When going through the DD 20 in delay mode (100% or near) can you =20 >> cut off your input at some point, meaning can you get some loops =20 >> (delays) going and then hit the pedal again and play over the =20 >> delaying loops dry? > > Yes, this is exactly the way it operates in delay mode. > >> Am now waiting for my Lexicon Vortex which I got off ebay to =20 >> arrive!!! > > What fun! > > I own a couple of those myself. > > I never play without at least one > > Andy Butler (also on the LD list) is a Master at getting the most =20 > out of the Vortex. > > I think he has a web page somewhere dedicated to tips and tricks, etc. > > I don't have the link handy at the moment though. > > Cheers, > > Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 19:48:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7724C3BEDA; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:48:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Cti/o2wuYq3HV4aEvKyapzMb2albkiDQ7n9pU35jCSU=; b=HU99E6dhFpxFDI6fT8yj6Bbe08rB/x+qSv2zq5LEoecLULSQXWVkQauXaYqJtGmJpm5dxSfiSd4BQAH3LDKK0KXQpaFwzr86R7wGbKs9yrW/nLppFzJxMVmidMptPwh3uf3VCQ9igrcHhmoTd+ELQlI4xfDicYKn+7tZyQC+Igk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=G35acuPN95Qv8goLo6cNAHTDPjO3dL0M7dcy3N2osUf20VW0RMNxRo4rJtTWrY1LhRvKON8mo3DB46HVwnjy+J0xpupbJqkke/EExYhpDkzqRVmK8wJEs2YZrerTPyKKhn80sAblHdXked/j6qaebk2b/J07stHhBtwZjjIH9Y0= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:48:11 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Newbie! (DD 20 question) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> <9461802C-49F7-415B-9FF4-6B91C0B2B72B@numericable.fr> <3ef09a0d5102a3eee6b6d1bb5d5b967b@charter.net> Resent-Message-ID: <_ixzZB.A.unG.-98DHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:48:14 +0000 (UTC) I use a Behringer footswitch to change patches and the A/B change, and a Behringer volume/control pedal with the vortex. The footswitch works just fine, the pedal is a little flakey. I need to get a different one and see if it's the pedal. Flakey in that it sometimes doesn't seem to send any signal. Tony On 10/12/07, Scott Stroud wrote: > Yes, I can't wait. Thanks for the info about Andy Butler, I had seen > it and his sight was probably the clinching reason I went for it, > after hearing the vortex pop up here and there in this forum and > elsewhere. He talks about a non lexicon footswitch but it doesn't > seem very available today. Any news from anyone out there using > footswitches? > > cheers, > > scott > Le 12 oct. 07 =E0 15:35, tEd (r) KiLLiAn a =E9crit : > > > Scott, > > > > On Oct 12, 2007, at 2:39 AM, Scott Stroud wrote: > > > >> When going through the DD 20 in delay mode (100% or near) can you > >> cut off your input at some point, meaning can you get some loops > >> (delays) going and then hit the pedal again and play over the > >> delaying loops dry? > > > > Yes, this is exactly the way it operates in delay mode. > > > >> Am now waiting for my Lexicon Vortex which I got off ebay to > >> arrive!!! > > > > What fun! > > > > I own a couple of those myself. > > > > I never play without at least one > > > > Andy Butler (also on the LD list) is a Master at getting the most > > out of the Vortex. > > > > I think he has a web page somewhere dedicated to tips and tricks, etc. > > > > I don't have the link handy at the moment though. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Ted > > --=20 -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 20:54:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A0983BECD; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:54:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1482 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:54:38 UTC X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on smtp.atwdsl.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=6.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Message-ID: <470FDC98.1010404@unguitar.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:44:08 +0200 From: Luca Formentini User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Gordius Midi Pedal. References: <101220071507.20016.470F8DBB000A0A3500004E302216549976020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <101220071507.20016.470F8DBB000A0A3500004E302216549976020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:54:39 +0000 (UTC) Happy user of the big one here. Very happy to have waited until now. luca www.unguitar.com midifriedchicken@comcast.net wrote: > Since switching to a laptop for all signal processing, looping and > mixing, I echo Krispen's need for "smallness". It actually becomes > somewhat of a compulsion. Which is completely the opposite mindset of > my previous 25 years of experience. > The FCB is in fact big. I see the Gordius unit, and it looks solid and > compact. > Has anyone used one of these? Are the buttons loud? Can you rest your > foot on a button without activating it? > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. > Regards, > MFC > > > > > __________ Informazione NOD32 2589 (20071012) __________ > > Questo messaggio è stato controllato dal Sistema Antivirus NOD32 > http://www.nod32.it From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 21:00:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B0AA3BEB3; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:00:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <146cdc29631cccbca7b7596b5e8d35f4@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: FS: ROCKTRON 12-CHANNEL SINGLE RACK-SPACE MIXER (NO RESERVE) Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:00:35 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:00:42 +0000 (UTC) Hi ho, Once the heart of my monster rack madness. Now just another Ebay auction. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&item=330174026592&ssPageName=ADME:L:DSS:US:1123 12 channels and 2 fully stereo FX sends in one rack space. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 21:01:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BECC3BECD; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:01:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <60013.72.51.94.169.1192222911.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:01:51 -0400 (AST) Subject: Peter Boysen and Instant Multiply From: "Andre' Donawa" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:01:28 +0000 (UTC) Hi Peter, I came across this thread and wondered how you use instant multiply. "A third way is to use the Instant Multiply function. I like that for setting up drum loops by vocal beatboxing on one track. Start out with a simple one bar beat. Hit "next loop" (with "Copy Sound" activated) and while the same audio is now playing back in this new loop you hit Instant Multiply to make it three or four times longer, just in time so you can punch in a fill at the last quarter note or so. With the latest Mobius version these settings (that used to be global) can be defined as track unique settings. So if you want, you can have your own set-up with tracks behaving a little differently, thus allowing you to use specific looping techniques on certain tracks. Lots of fun to be had with that :-)" This seems closer to the way I would use Mobius. Is it a script? Do you have a configuration setup for this? Thanks, Andre From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 21:20:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F2F23BEDE; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:20:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: OT - finding a record label Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 23:20:14 +0200 Message-ID: <002c01c80d15$ae9c1cc0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcgNFa4UHgtZd9aVThiac7wFojElgA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:20:21 +0000 (UTC) yes I know there's an OT list but I wanted to reach more of you :-) In 1996 I recorded an hour of algorithmic music (together with a friend) - computer composed music for digital piano and percussion that sounds, IMO, like a mix of very early Stockhausen, Conlon Nancarrow, and here and there like hypothetical Zappa percussion music. (No loops although there are repetitions.) I cleaned up these recordings last year and I like them so much that I'd love to see them on a real CD, like in the old days. Here's some of it, with some info: http://www.michaelpeters.de/impossiblemusic.htm Alas, I have no idea how to find an appropriate label, one that would be interested in this kind of music. As an avid reader of WIRE I even feel intimidated by the plethora of labels out there. And I don't want to send a million copies around for nothing. There are probably 1000 labels which could be potential candidates. The project has been lying around dormant for quite a while because I simply don't know what to do. Any label experienced lovers of the classical avantgarde out there who can recommend something? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 21:31:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10C433BEDE; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: OT - finding a record label Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 23:31:27 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <008201c80d17$3f107070$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: <002c01c80d15$ae9c1cc0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Thread-Index: AcgNFa4UHgtZd9aVThiac7wFojElgAAAWFig X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OId9R0RqRNQ= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:31:01 +0000 (UTC) > In 1996 I recorded an hour of algorithmic music (together > with a friend) - computer composed music for digital piano > and percussion that sounds, IMO, like a mix of very early Insteresting stuff. Some four years earlier, I did some similar works which I would print onto score sheets and play them with the trombone as part of the yearly conference of these people: http://www.chaos-gruppe.de/. Sadly, no recordings exist. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 21:43:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEAEC3BEDA; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <470FEB68.5010508@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 23:47:20 +0200 From: van Sinn Reply-To: vansinn@post.cybercity.dk Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Gordius Midi Pedal. References: <101220071507.20016.470F8DBB000A0A3500004E302216549976020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> <470FDC98.1010404@unguitar.com> In-Reply-To: <470FDC98.1010404@unguitar.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <552FaD.A.rAF.Rq-DHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Luca Formentini wrote: > Happy user of the big one here. > > Very happy to have waited until now. > > luca > www.unguitar.com What's the button spacing feel like? I use FCB1010's and sometimes feel those big buttons should've been smaller and more tightly spaced, for smaller board dimensions. However, I used to have a board with far too tightly spaced buttons, so I kinda needed to wear pointy cowboy boots to hit them right ;) > midifriedchicken@comcast.net wrote: > >> Since switching to a laptop for all signal processing, looping and >> mixing, I echo Krispen's need for "smallness". It actually becomes >> somewhat of a compulsion. Which is completely the opposite mindset of >> my previous 25 years of experience. >> The FCB is in fact big. I see the Gordius unit, and it looks solid and >> compact. >> Has anyone used one of these? Are the buttons loud? Can you rest your >> foot on a button without activating it? >> >> Any thoughts would be appreciated. >> Regards, >> MFC >> >> >> >> >> __________ Informazione NOD32 2589 (20071012) __________ >> >> Questo messaggio è stato controllato dal Sistema Antivirus NOD32 >> http://www.nod32.it > > > > . > -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 22:00:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A18283BEE1; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:00:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=JbnGtnlkzZk+rVomMDHC8hIrAn438HW7ZzeTYBgJ2q0=; b=Lfco3iFUb2IinvuqcrXf0Vp0jp2qdz5tQtckn51GMqf3/jH0hHrOPT6IkRVPV17OtshdCHaDO2c0XnrhVS4s0zBJSgPhI0szK3Rx52R1JK7PGfvZiHE36SpaSh2jdDoXwN0JXQw+4HJgZNRnYBYtzDmTe1UJRsncEQYot7K1luQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Yc197w4nZ5fYUD/1vY7LbYJuumgOTF+dKkJo//3dS9PvxUVCgc+8Edm4fzZNnWPRgHRkfft0iW3NqKn3YHw4eX+P4Z2tCLyqyuwJ0B433i+umVWQ2GM1WO7G7PTQTmA/OOOiX4kg9nzWty5VNI39IA8524EyeEWRMK5MjZqteqE= In-Reply-To: <60013.72.51.94.169.1192222911.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <60013.72.51.94.169.1192222911.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <623338AC-0A97-4626-90F2-92AF8BFAC1F2@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Peter Boysen and Instant Multiply Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 00:00:10 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:00:17 +0000 (UTC) On 12 okt 2007, at 23.01, Andre' Donawa wrote: > I came across this thread and wondered how you use instant multiply. > > > > "A third way is to use the Instant Multiply function. I like that for > setting up drum loops by vocal beatboxing on one track. Start out > with a simple one bar beat. Hit "next loop" (with "Copy Sound" > activated) and while the same audio is now playing back in this new > loop you hit Instant Multiply to make it three or four times longer, > just in time so you can punch in a fill at the last quarter note or > so. With the latest Mobius version these settings (that used to be > global) can be defined as track unique settings. So if you want, you > can have your own set-up with tracks behaving a little differently, > thus allowing you to use specific looping techniques on certain > tracks. Lots of fun to be had with that :-)" > > This seems closer to the way I would use Mobius. > Is it a script? > Do you have a configuration setup for this? I'm not Peter but I will try to answer this. Instant Multiply is a default action and not a script. The command immediately (or according to set quantize value) makes the loop longer. There are three lengths: multiply by 2, 3 or 4. Mobius now also has Instant Division that shortens a loop according to the same three divisors. I have no particular configuration only for these commands, although I use them all the time. In seconds you can set up a poly rhythm between parallel loops on different tracks by combining 2 or 4 with 3. Sometimes I set up such a poly rhythmic context of empty loops before starting to fill them up with quantized SUSSubstitute slices of short duration. If Focus Locking a such two or three "poly rhythm" tracks the immediate loop playback will be different than what you played on your live instrument. Another fun way of using Instant Divide is to minimize the loop until it's microscopical. Try it and see what happens. Experiment with high feedback setting, wobbling rate from an expression pedal etc etc - do it all in Overdub Mode. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 22:03:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B8F63BEDA; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:03:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:01:25 EDT Subject: Re: OT - finding a record label To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_be4.18a55a24.344148b5_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:03:40 +0000 (UTC) --part1_be4.18a55a24.344148b5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 10/12/07 5:20:26 PM, mp@mpeters.de writes: > algorithmic > michael.....AL GORE RYTHMIC, is that what you're talkin about?.....:).....outasite!......you are ahead of the times!.....michael (who has always wanted a VORTEX.....:(.....) 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    See what's=20= new at http://www.aol.com --part1_be4.18a55a24.344148b5_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 12 23:25:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1239E3BEC5; Fri, 12 Oct 2007 23:25:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <61309.72.51.94.169.1192231556.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: <623338AC-0A97-4626-90F2-92AF8BFAC1F2@gmail.com> References: <60013.72.51.94.169.1192222911.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <623338AC-0A97-4626-90F2-92AF8BFAC1F2@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:25:56 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: Peter Boysen and Instant Multiply From: "Andre' Donawa" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 23:25:32 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per, Thanks for the info. It sounds a bit high tech for me but I will give it a try tomorrow. Andre > > > I'm not Peter but I will try to answer this. Instant Multiply is a > default action and not a script. The command immediately (or > according to set quantize value) makes the loop longer. There are > three lengths: multiply by 2, 3 or 4. Mobius now also has Instant > Division that shortens a loop according to the same three divisors. I > have no particular configuration only for these commands, although I > use them all the time. In seconds you can set up a poly rhythm > between parallel loops on different tracks by combining 2 or 4 with > 3. Sometimes I set up such a poly rhythmic context of empty loops > before starting to fill them up with quantized SUSSubstitute slices > of short duration. If Focus Locking a such two or three "poly rhythm" > tracks the immediate loop playback will be different than what you > played on your live instrument. Another fun way of using Instant > Divide is to minimize the loop until it's microscopical. Try it and > see what happens. Experiment with high feedback setting, wobbling > rate from an expression pedal etc etc - do it all in Overdub Mode. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > > From Service@Amazon.com Sat Oct 13 02:53:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 40386 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sat, 13 Oct 2007 02:53:22 UTC Received: from host.bluededicated.com (host.bluededicated.com [67.43.0.234]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87943BEC1; Sat, 13 Oct 2007 02:53:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from static-71-160-126-137.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net ([71.160.126.137]:44089 helo=User) by host.bluededicated.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1IgX63-0006DS-50; Sat, 13 Oct 2007 09:51:00 +0700 Reply-To: From: "Service@Amazon.com" Subject: Error Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:51:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.bluededicated.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - Amazon.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Message-Id: <20071013025320.E87943BEC1@arsenic.violacea.com> To: undisclosed-recipients:; amazon.com Update Dear Amazon Member:

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 13 05:24:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 415403BED9; Sat, 13 Oct 2007 05:24:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=NmwQCpkxj5v3rBEjbUgbrmYRkihbjphS2KXuWuAXb8UoyTN/YnQM47rUw8LebRfjlQ5cYHs0uY5kSVk2Qw1qbp+W+WKpjItVlfueCozoB6g6TVzcjWRfo1hGgS1GoAwVClwHgSwxh86o/dUSEC0uLaNagpODcm2kapS7XChk5XQ=; X-YMail-OSG: W9VLCwMVM1nr7ozro8pUwhzIPRGDt8w8z4Ect81dixbFkiMXGHSL.gf4ydPUykk1tu9CL_DCMUop6FejINdI6WvQ1wBR0PFueeDpzq1CcZ56en7jHxytFWyGfx65jg-- Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:24:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Kupferschmid Subject: Re: Newbie! (DD 20 question) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20071012153631.WAMUR.153036.root@fepweb01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <11975.34208.qm@web34312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 05:24:08 +0000 (UTC) Boss also has the Roland Space Echo modeller, it DOES have an input for massing with the feedback and warping the delay times, at least I think you can adjust the feedback with it. --- tEd ® kiLLiAn wrote: > Greetings, > > ---- Michael Plishka > wrote: > > Can the feedback on the DD20 be adjusted with > another pedal or does it have > > to be a knob? > > Well, it all depends. > > A few (very few) manufacturers have made pedals that > will turn stompbox knobs for you via a mechanical > cable. > > I have never used one of these however. > > The whole idea sounds rather kluge-y to me. > > Electro Harmonix made one and I think another > company continues to make something of the sort. > > But, back to your question, if you are expecting an > expression pedal input or something of that nature, > no there is none. > > Sorry. > > Ted > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 13 08:34:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B0513BED3; Sat, 13 Oct 2007 08:34:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=TDAWPKjg5hgPKVSwmHYYAiwpkVAghPLWT1Y7PZymYRI=; b=aMezN/FTaaehCtKA2r9F+798MPqZtKDlGuhlYx4VqqdJRzOP2HkyrN3yUgHg4y63ERj8ywC/j9nFu5odqm8OVaJvuYzu04n6RWMI86UeXJyir06rQSrTpCHG0vSQxKjwcDe+Bz9Z7DcinnwM/wxhtz92a28pLvTt/plnhd7Esdo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=h9a4ZUqFeZm7aTQUacasGslHVZxCHLt0SYDIbvr8nxD68aH+K1VW/2ozXcSMTfWWz7NQmzbY3Vva2Zk75sdYaOhKJUFBaDQnE31BEvpUdfPA7GKYoL4whRsa59JFgE63YjLwfD0e/cnQaSgFweTyjhpVrZmhJ3ByN3MP4qYAs+I= In-Reply-To: <61309.72.51.94.169.1192231556.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <60013.72.51.94.169.1192222911.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <623338AC-0A97-4626-90F2-92AF8BFAC1F2@gmail.com> <61309.72.51.94.169.1192231556.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Peter Boysen and Instant Multiply Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 10:33:56 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 08:34:04 +0000 (UTC) Well, I just answered to what I thought you were asking for ;-) Of course you can just use the Instant Multiply to step a button to make the loop double its length instantly. The normal Multiply plays back the loop while you add stuff while the instant version simply changes the length right away. Per On 13 okt 2007, at 01.25, Andre' Donawa wrote: > Hi Per, > Thanks for the info. > It sounds a bit high tech for me but I will give it a try tomorrow. > > Andre > >> >> >> I'm not Peter but I will try to answer this. Instant Multiply is a >> default action and not a script. The command immediately (or >> according to set quantize value) makes the loop longer. There are >> three lengths: multiply by 2, 3 or 4. Mobius now also has Instant >> Division that shortens a loop according to the same three divisors. I >> have no particular configuration only for these commands, although I >> use them all the time. In seconds you can set up a poly rhythm >> between parallel loops on different tracks by combining 2 or 4 with >> 3. Sometimes I set up such a poly rhythmic context of empty loops >> before starting to fill them up with quantized SUSSubstitute slices >> of short duration. If Focus Locking a such two or three "poly rhythm" >> tracks the immediate loop playback will be different than what you >> played on your live instrument. Another fun way of using Instant >> Divide is to minimize the loop until it's microscopical. Try it and >> see what happens. Experiment with high feedback setting, wobbling >> rate from an expression pedal etc etc - do it all in Overdub Mode. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >> www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 13 13:42:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6B4E3BED2; Sat, 13 Oct 2007 13:42:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: <20071012153631.WAMUR.153036.root@fepweb01> <11975.34208.qm@web34312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <11975.34208.qm@web34312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Midi Wizard controller - help needed Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 06:42:38 -0700 Message-ID: <004a01c80d9e$ebb37660$c31a6320$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgNWpurpb73ZQyJQ4GdM/NCc14fBAAQw4vg Content-Language: en-us X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: Dcd7d02120000bc2b.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 13:42:41 +0000 (UTC) I acquired a new Rolls MidiWizard foot controller about a year ago. I'd like to use it now to control Mobius and/or effects processors. Its programming capabilities are limited. The "manual" is very sparse, and its no longer in production or supported by Rolls. I tried it when I first got it, but the button presses didn't seem to do what I wanted/expected. Anyone using it? Are there any tricks to it? For example, some effects processors are expecting unlatched or latched pedal presses. (I'm not completely sure that that means yet). Advice would be greatly appreciated Thanks! -Qua From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 13 13:49:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0A183BED3; Sat, 13 Oct 2007 13:49:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Cc: Subject: Looping London mid-November Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:49:29 +0200 Message-ID: <000801c80d9f$e0c50ab0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcgNlBxUJdQJotKcTO6uipKlHSm8zQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <0Maif.A.d1C.vzMEHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 13:49:35 +0000 (UTC) I'll play a live session in London with the guys from Improvizone (Os, Michael Bearpark, Andy Booker and others) on November 14 - I'll probably stay in London for 2 more days, and then play at the Norwich Loopfest on Nov 17. If anyone from the area feels like meeting, please let me know. David, do you still live in London? it would be cool to meet for a cup of tea :-) Michael www.michaelpeters.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 13 15:06:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4ECDF3BEDB; Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:06:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 720 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:06:45 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_f81756d1-8ad7-46ce-81b3-77227999468a_" X-Originating-IP: [72.151.98.78] From: kevin osborne To: Subject: RE: Ending actions by Record in Mobius (Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper) Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 09:54:44 -0500 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <93D62806-51EF-4295-927F-21715B841719@gmail.com> References: <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> <716FB4BF-3A51-4C0A-82A9-19E4A15383CD@gmail.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C56B8E0@keel.sailpoint.com> <93D62806-51EF-4295-927F-21715B841719@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Oct 2007 14:54:44.0046 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD9A16E0:01C80DA8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:06:46 +0000 (UTC) --_f81756d1-8ad7-46ce-81b3-77227999468a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable please take me off of the mailing list. thanks > From: perboysen@gmail.com> Subject: Ending actions by Record in Mobius (R= e: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper)> Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 18:40:4= 2 +0200> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > Of course I can elabora= te on this. My problems are when ending an > action with REcord on the mast= er track. Since I use the setting "Sync > =3D Out" for setting the tempo by= the first loop I have to do the > destructive cuts on the master track to = get the synced plug-ins > instantly pick up the new tempo. I'd rather avoid= using the first > (master) track at all in Mobius and I have a special scr= ipt that > mutes it and copies its first recorded loop into track 2; just t= o > avoid drop-outs and rhythmic glitches. This is working extremely well >= in a solo looping concert situation where I don't need to use the > master= track except for creating the very first loop.> > When applied to the slav= ed tracks, of Mobius, I have no problem to go > Multiply-Record or Record-R= ecord. But that's a different thing than > this thread was about. I was onl= y talking about a nice way of > changing tempo of a looper to adjust to tem= po changing live musicians > and for this the EDP is my favorite.> > The tw= o latest betas of Mobius are remarkably better in this regard, > though.> >= Per> > > On 5 okt 2007, at 17.45, Jeff Larson wrote:> > >>> Was really sur= prised that Mobius doesn't play all these tricks..> >>> >> Oh yes it does! = But not without audio artifacts or rhythmic hiccups.> >> > Wow, that's news= to me. Can you elaborate on what you're hearing> > (over in the zonemobius= group if you prefer). What you describe:> >> >> 1) On the EDP you can alwa= ys hit Record to erase everything and start> >> >> a new loop> >> > This is= basic re-Record I do it all the time.> >> >> 2) I also keep one button to = instantly retrigger the loop > >> ("stutter").> >> > This is Retrigger, als= o a common function. The only "artifact"> > you will have here is a slight = trimming of the start of the loop to> > adjust for latency. Sometimes I hea= r this if the loop starts> > immediately with a sharp attack but not usuall= y. This affects> > the sound of the attack but not the rhythm, the loop wil= l> > begin playing from where it would be if there were zero latency.> >> >= > 3) I the group tempo changes while I'm working a floating, non> >> rhythm= ic, loop I might simply go Multiply-Record to cut it down to a> >> duration= that loops in synk.> >> > This is Unrounded Multiply, also common. Again t= he only artifact will> > be a slight trimming of the start of the loop for = latency adjustment> > the first time it plays.> >> > The only serious artif= acts I'm aware of in doing these operations have> > been bugs when you do t= hem while generating output sync, which> > occasionally results in redundan= t retriggers making a "fluttering"> > sound. But if you have output sync tu= rned off, which you would in the> > acoustic example, there isn't much happ= ening that could cause > > artifacts> > other than the latency adjustment.>= >> > Has this been happening long or is it something in the most recent> >= release?> >> > Thanks,> > Jeff> >> > > >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Boo!=A0Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare= ! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=3Dwl_hotma= ilnews= --_f81756d1-8ad7-46ce-81b3-77227999468a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable please take me off of the mailing list. thanks


    > From: perboysen@gmail.com
    > Subject: Ending actions by Record in= Mobius (Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper)
    > Date: Fri, 5= Oct 2007 18:40:42 +0200
    > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
    > Of course I can elaborate on this. My problems are when endi= ng an
    > action with REcord on the master track. Since I use the sett= ing "Sync
    > =3D Out" for setting the tempo by the first loop I have = to do the
    > destructive cuts on the master track to get the synced p= lug-ins
    > instantly pick up the new tempo. I'd rather avoid using th= e first
    > (master) track at all in Mobius and I have a special scrip= t that
    > mutes it and copies its first recorded loop into track 2; j= ust to
    > avoid drop-outs and rhythmic glitches. This is working extr= emely well
    > in a solo looping concert situation where I don't need = to use the
    > master track except for creating the very first loop.>
    > When applied to the slaved tracks, of Mobius, I have no pro= blem to go
    > Multiply-Record or Record-Record. But that's a differen= t thing than
    > this thread was about. I was only talking about a nic= e way of
    > changing tempo of a looper to adjust to tempo changing li= ve musicians
    > and for this the EDP is my favorite.
    >
    >= The two latest betas of Mobius are remarkably better in this regard,
    &= gt; though.
    >
    > Per
    >
    >
    > On 5 okt 2007, a= t 17.45, Jeff Larson wrote:
    >
    > >>> Was really surpri= sed that Mobius doesn't play all these tricks..
    > >>
    > &g= t;> Oh yes it does! But not without audio artifacts or rhythmic hiccups.=
    > >
    > > Wow, that's news to me. Can you elaborate on wha= t you're hearing
    > > (over in the zonemobius group if you prefer).= What you describe:
    > >
    > >> 1) On the EDP you can alw= ays hit Record to erase everything and start
    > >
    > >> = a new loop
    > >
    > > This is basic re-Record I do it all th= e time.
    > >
    > >> 2) I also keep one button to instantl= y retrigger the loop
    > >> ("stutter").
    > >
    > &g= t; This is Retrigger, also a common function. The only "artifact"
    > &= gt; you will have here is a slight trimming of the start of the loop to
    = > > adjust for latency. Sometimes I hear this if the loop starts
    &= gt; > immediately with a sharp attack but not usually. This affects
    &= gt; > the sound of the attack but not the rhythm, the loop will
    > = > begin playing from where it would be if there were zero latency.
    &g= t; >
    > >> 3) I the group tempo changes while I'm working a f= loating, non
    > >> rhythmic, loop I might simply go Multiply-Rec= ord to cut it down to a
    > >> duration that loops in synk.
    &g= t; >
    > > This is Unrounded Multiply, also common. Again the onl= y artifact will
    > > be a slight trimming of the start of the loop = for latency adjustment
    > > the first time it plays.
    > >> > The only serious artifacts I'm aware of in doing these operatio= ns have
    > > been bugs when you do them while generating output syn= c, which
    > > occasionally results in redundant retriggers making a= "fluttering"
    > > sound. But if you have output sync turned off, w= hich you would in the
    > > acoustic example, there isn't much happe= ning that could cause
    > > artifacts
    > > other than the l= atency adjustment.
    > >
    > > Has this been happening long o= r is it something in the most recent
    > > release?
    > >
    = > > Thanks,
    > > Jeff
    > >
    >
    >
    > =
    >

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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 14 04:16:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64D903BECA; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 04:16:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 396 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 04:16:18 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=aangsn1eXAQVmpuAoutMsM1BZcj0gy11BgeaIXz1f8Y=; b=I0HC51szAOcQVs6hEcrIZ3T4dT/S47HjG1m76wg1i8BkOJ/GNjoHo5M1WwKw7d9x4NnwNkm2a+8zvvif4d4AbkVpmsevcpfYPs0uhIfLKFiDpm4hneU2SWwC7Zg6rrv1J8C4QErjreb502Vq/OBHV8bRMf/bab1YMAW1Cn34ptk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=FvgYkFTK+i3Bj16zPdAYoaL2cGJjkq2QDanI1KtOppJ3Yxq18nFXF9jijy/yKHNdxa0MTfWn2EAwsg1jGEpBn8l/ytVASUcZzQbq0tVfSXnP0TNmWaNDzNNiyq0dwpl6Vd+eGKDUVhztUsj4Vd4dEhnLa5v31s7RWvN0eRceJvk= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:09:41 -0700 From: "Matt Davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Drum Machine emergency MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 04:16:19 +0000 (UTC) Heh... after years of lightly poking fun at laptop players when their max patches don't work, I just found that my drum machine's battery is dead and in need of replacement. Thankfully, it corresponds with 2 fortunate events. 1) While there are no Roland Service Centers that I can get to around here, Union Grove Music in Santa Cruz is supposedly a service center. I'll have to call in tomorrow and see if they can have a battery inhouse for drum machine surgery next weekend during the loopfest. (Hey - Bill Walker works there!) 2) Fortunately, I got my new drum machine a few weeks ago, so hopefully I can program enough kits tonight to be not completely useless for my show tomorrow! Supposedly it's streaming on the internet, but I can't see where the streaming link is. http://tinyurl.com/39rzwd So, I may be debuting the new drum machine earlier than expected! Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 14 11:37:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A70DF3BECA; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 11:37:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=tsyK/07N/w1kKX8pOZnr2XkEtAR9qlpcP1hopgwJ+KM=; b=Lw8Uw11L5ca3GRh5ihRzT6KgHb09LCzf8ppEDXdlLeh7gPJ/H2eI8J0lLejKYkC437Zi/gqaDpKEaixtP1ImHbKh8US1uhIYnRRoex3Axb6dZtuhZYbvlr91lLoT6B6xrtdxvjVBIqtiH8Oe/TLZM8QaMZq2RPXAXKrQ8HwYpyo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=IcUZ2fkbX5Yx6R/IOcjaaTBXbPS8C6hU/Ru1+nhdbC8MQDvoEqYOtnGnUtJQ9HUp3vMOhJJay8IC/QmiawMiaX9iR505thbvx3IadIho/hX0eUV/kEVNsp7WEWKs6GofgO03lAYHww/3FB9G4m2A8AHdPpuf8ebmZS/wPVqv4mY= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <000801c80d9f$e0c50ab0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <000801c80d9f$e0c50ab0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: OT: whoops... just found me on YouTube ;-) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:36:58 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 11:37:04 +0000 (UTC) From tours in Asia 1996. I'm the guy in red suit with red guitar. Didn't think these old shots were public... but this morning they just popped out of YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lJEiKDANPo http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=sqvF1iV49uU&mode=related&search=Plastico%20Guzz%20Penny%20Boysen% 20JVC%20SONY%20Asia%20Music%20Communicate%201996 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 14 13:44:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A5003BED8; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:44:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Dn7+O2zf9kUjr6L00TUYJ1LiysBkptjtll/bLRqvhX8=; b=dD62b+O1cvcE0v2J/V+H8Ns7hBhCtkwdan69Qh0HSpGxQiyt/yLzj5X0nDVb0I6BInghi9nYy4GXjFbUUbCCYFrtlZ877LR1z1bqtm40gIoV246PEPvd+ik61WGPXQNwYm1yPGuHbPJodD3WiD3DCCbsygWzAbTzNwD9TCmHZlo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=W54hzcIMJNQelfdKZWHBP8K1AubIeZw/jWUw3fHnitcVOlrbywYWzbmjpJ6FELdE+lToLQdl4RbZDOEHFM3clsajE/9DUtYgNBjIZRYj9f/cS2dTp174UVG/7fbvk46IpKEGA5KVkDpW8wsORdPJlfu/kjsf6USR0aOzJz0pwXA= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:44:28 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: whoops... just found me on YouTube ;-) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17683_24184511.1192369468998" References: <000801c80d9f$e0c50ab0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:44:31 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_17683_24184511.1192369468998 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline It must have been a nightmare ... At least, you got rich or not? je,je,je ... R. 2007/10/14, Per Boysen : > > From tours in Asia 1996. I'm the guy in red suit with red guitar. > Didn't think these old shots were public... but this morning they > just popped out of YouTube. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lJEiKDANPo > > http://www.youtube.com/watch? > v=sqvF1iV49uU&mode=related&search=Plastico%20Guzz%20Penny%20Boysen% > 20JVC%20SONY%20Asia%20Music%20Communicate%201996 > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_17683_24184511.1192369468998 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline It must have been a nightmare ...
    At least, you got rich or not?
    je,je,je ...

    R.

    2007/10/14, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>:
    From tours in Asia 1996. I'm the guy in red suit with red guitar.
    Didn't think these old shots were public... but this morning they
    just popped out of YouTube.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lJEiKDANPo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?
    v=sqvF1iV49uU&mode=related&search=Plastico%20Guzz%20Penny%20Boysen%
    20JVC%20SONY%20Asia%20Music%20Communicate%201996

    Greetings from Sweden

    Per Boysen
    www.boysen.se (Swedish)
    www.looproom.com (international)







    --
    The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_17683_24184511.1192369468998-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 14 14:09:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 414323BEDC; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:09:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=G1xaN4O41IPIg6WZj6OO7u0sAILmYgQhPJeiYEHtwg0=; b=R6fszzlhk8rlGrwIk7FcJPP/878oHpDXHu6lcQ18gjGbaTbIIn5oonTMzxGzqDRKvchWIG5tcLHSDZEsuK7r6K0VAZohdy2yOg/PiwA7P0FOVoCu3D2xisnbmIDYqUaTCRgTHix8e1RGRi6o9Qbioik2mIsZ7wa2FWXSYJQci5c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=PWkOwNB/jKpey+ecWiKsiOmUBiKXiEoC1eI0mgLvxvBst84+qCWxx9tumqAj5wA3GQbBkGrr0iAfysXlwbHwcJ1v/35eEmUIuvD5z2vVHM7gukiIl5EN+LD6pcLnI3b+t9jLc+guiIDHhp6aNR1S4Rs1Qp1xCMGE9WhKpO5gUkI= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:08:59 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: scripts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17730_29331917.1192370940027" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:09:01 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_17730_29331917.1192370940027 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline did i lost something since i can't find them on the online mobius doc? maybe reading the examples for testing the 1.30g beta is enough to figure out how to write them, ..uhm? thanx! raul. -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_17730_29331917.1192370940027 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline did i lost something since i can't find them on the online
    mobius doc? maybe reading the examples for testing
    the 1.30g beta is enough to figure out how to write them, ..uhm?

    thanx!
    raul.

    --
    The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 14 15:36:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C4433BED3; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:36:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=bZ/+FkD/ojfv6GfskE3nwjBC2/cLV2CQn1R1BzZ1of8=; b=jVd/kuPYm6znfQ3XmxJ22oPduXRFZEYWhvzchqqRcvra/FgO58MBCASVTxoq88F4WNE54CNe2MWGSZgTJlvEBBjXZrAl3CtJpazDskoSizJbLJ2W1u+Qy917Iy6ttWzAmPctHx26QuL8QQoQZupFSK7tdAEfULmG2EDX6veBXzM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Uqr4gy8K6JxGjvrWRPbbZYSi17OZNWLsJNbuXkkXmEW/k6oSim0IHucY3nm6Phxl87z1MhBgq1Po2Lj+jehX5ETx3idrrFWCH9zpE+XZ3869PYKdtAidh4lZkX9jjh//xEAGjWCxnue7cO7ubZcXfXfgdcPvl4CX8CgZZxQAopE= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <000801c80d9f$e0c50ab0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: OT: whoops... just found me on YouTube ;-) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:36:48 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:36:54 +0000 (UTC) On 14 okt 2007, at 15.44, Raul Bonell wrote: > At least, you got rich or not? Not ;-) I quit as soon as I found that it did not work out well in combination with my experimental music outlets. When I signed a major deal based on "chart friendly" music I thought it would be great to be in music both for an income and for the pure joy of exploring, although given different genres. That was a mistake, because no time for other projects were ever available in that professional context. When looking around today I see every damn musician I respect has made music an amateur business of love. Obviously that's the way to go, but I just had to try another way to find out ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 14 17:39:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A43D23BEDE; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4677 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:39:04 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <64b81a780710121232l35129eb2vc010437b58c9bf23@mail.gmail.com> References: <000001c80cdf$2cbbe1d0$8633a570$@com> <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7205935994@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> <64b81a780710121232l35129eb2vc010437b58c9bf23@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Hamburg Subject: Re: vortex Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 09:20:46 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:39:04 +0000 (UTC) The heart of my guitar rig for several years now has been a Tech21 SansAmp PSA-1 and a Lexicon Vortex. This is actually my second Vortex since I traded the first one as part of a deal to get a second Korg AM8000R (another really great box). I've never really got into the extreme morphing thing which probably means I'm underutilizing the Vortex. The pluses for the Vortex are that even for basic modulation effects, it has a wonderful complexity and warmth. The biggest downsides are that its noisy, a pain to program (even compared to the AM8000R which is saying something), and has no MIDI support for switching effects, synchronizing to MIDI clock, etc.. You can't even bypass the Vortex unless you have a footswitch connected. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 14 18:24:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 325D13BEDA; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:24:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3609 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:24:23 UTC Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:23:45 -0400 From: Scott Duncan Subject: RE: OT: whoops-found me on YouTube,,,perspective To: Loopers Delight Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--672938892 References: Resent-Message-ID: <503M3.A.MDG.X7lEHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:24:24 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--672938892 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Begin forwarded message: > On 14 okt 2007, at 15.44, Raul Bonell wrote: >> At least, you got rich or not? > > Not.... ;-)....... I quit as soon as I found that it did not work > out well in combination with my experimental music outlets. ... I > thought it would be great to be in music both for an income and for > the pure joy of exploring... That was a mistake, because no time > for other projects were ever available. > ****** When looking around today I see every damn musician I > respect has made music an amateur business of love. ****** > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) Ah yes, your perspective here is as helpful (to me) as gear / tech talk. Have heard this said before, but your perspective is well described. Hope you don't mind my edit & emphasis above. Learning from you (& others) might save a lot of head/heartaches &.. Time..... And it's terrible ( maybe typical? ) to ignore the good advice of others... thanks.... Scott Duncan myspace.com/zaomusiccom myspace.com/scottduncanvideo --Apple-Mail-1--672938892 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

    Begin forwarded = message:
    On 14 okt = 2007, at 15.44, Raul Bonell wrote:

    At least, you = got rich or not?

    Not.... ;-).......=A0 I quit as soon as I found = that it did not work out well in combination with my experimental music = outlets. ... I thought it would be great to be in music both for an = income and for the pure joy of exploring... That was a mistake, because = no time for other projects were ever = available.

    ******=A0 =A0When looking around today I see every = damn musician I respect has made music an amateur business of love.=A0 =A0= =A0******=A0

    Per Boysen
    www.boysen.se = (Swedish)
    www.looproom.com = (international)


    Ah yes, your perspective = here is as helpful (to me) as gear / tech talk.=A0 Have=A0heard this = said before, but your perspective is well described. Hope you don't mind = my edit & emphasis above.=A0Learning from you (& others) might = save a lot of head/heartaches &.. Time.....=A0

    And it's terrible ( maybe = typical? ) to ignore the good advice of others...

    thanks....
    Scott = Duncan

    myspace.com/zaomusiccom
    myspace.com/scottduncanvideo
    = --Apple-Mail-1--672938892-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 00:16:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FB793BEDF; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:16:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 384 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:16:12 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=nfk9pts6+HOibSLvprTH9+vdIOPpQQ70yO9iOpfjRJI=; b=hf4nNSkuPJ/d+Lw6SqKKTFTvD2nce956nsZuxJACbyWHi2+COEbL7mm2TicKuxDp7eyiLSzdk+cAnJjbmNQqwzxO54OlQGY9vOtLvm3x5EK3AzWagc5xaNEy+k1Mai/XZdGseBn6iQYeZmg0d61GIcXmLZLsCbKZ+6QYXSj1rLM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=i3qV/iP7k7L28rFuGtf0H1w20siMVYgrV07AP7LF3uuI3KpOtrHQCydymhpfYxBWSv3ytdDH+CeJJU8dk/DWSES8SJ1zQB90SqXPg9Uk9ZPQzC5w+s9KJ/ida6kQtMuGSwzbtrR3RYBInFT65whfYD3Xq6nCGQIB8nG5U20yp5w= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 20:09:45 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: vortex In-Reply-To: <000001c80cdf$2cbbe1d0$8633a570$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14462_5470564.1192406985509" References: <200710111414.l9BEEsu8004991@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> <9461802C-49F7-415B-9FF4-6B91C0B2B72B@numericable.fr> <3ef09a0d5102a3eee6b6d1bb5d5b967b@charter.net> <000001c80cdf$2cbbe1d0$8633a570$@com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 00:16:13 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_14462_5470564.1192406985509 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The only thing more fun than a Vortex is ... THREE of THEM ... in series ... the 2005 album was done with a Fender Squier, an Ebow, a pair of Morley A/B switches and a trio of Lexicon Voretxes ... straight to the hard drive... http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/audio/nasoalmo/ ...and that's just an example of what's so cool about htem and what you can do with them. I am currently working on a box to take the output from my expression pedal and drive all 3 at once ... Dennis Moser On 10/12/07, Qua Veda wrote: > > The vortex seems very popular with loopers and experimentalists. > In a nutshell, what does it do? > -Qua > > -----Original Message----- > From: tEd R KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net] > > >> Am now waiting for my Lexicon Vortex which I got off ebay to arrive!!! > > What fun! > > I own a couple of those myself. > > I never play without at least one > > Andy Butler (also on the LD list) is a Master at getting the most out > of the Vortex. > > I think he has a web page somewhere dedicated to tips and tricks, etc. > > I don't have the link handy at the moment though. > > Cheers, > > Ted > > ------=_Part_14462_5470564.1192406985509 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The only thing more fun than a Vortex is ...

    THREE of THEM ... in series ... the 2005 album was done with a Fender Squier, an Ebow, a pair of Morley A/B switches and a trio of Lexicon Voretxes ... straight to the hard drive... http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/audio/nasoalmo/

    ...and that's just an example of what's so cool about htem and what you can do with them. I am currently working on a box to take the output from my expression pedal and drive all 3 at once ...

    Dennis Moser

    On 10/12/07, Qua Veda <qua@oregon.com> wrote:
    The vortex seems very popular with loopers and experimentalists.
    In a nutshell,  what does it do?
    -Qua

    -----Original Message-----
    From: tEd R KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net ]

    >> Am now waiting for my Lexicon Vortex which I got off ebay to arrive!!!

    What fun!

    I own a couple of those myself.

    I never play without at least one

    Andy Butler (also on the LD list) is a Master at getting the most out
    of the Vortex.

    I think he has a web page somewhere dedicated to tips and tricks, etc.

    I don't have the link handy at the moment though.

    Cheers,

    Ted


    ------=_Part_14462_5470564.1192406985509-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 07:48:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDA043BEE0; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 07:48:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20071015083254.00ba2f10@pop.earthlink.net> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:47:55 +0100 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: IMPORTANT!!! - to anyone who might have written to me this weekend - Thank you -and- crazy weekend!!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <4vTzgB.A.GqD.2sxEHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 07:48:06 +0000 (UTC) Hey All, first off, thanks Stephen for your compliments on my shots! :) YOU ROCK!!! (had to scan the archives to find your note - see below) Secondly, to anyone who might have written / replied to me either on or off list this weekend, (from Fri onward) I most likely haven't received it. aaarrrggg!!! I've had a laptop crash so if you would be so kind; please do re-send msgs my way? Thanks so much! :) Am accessing email less frequently for the next couple of days, (until I get a new laptop) but do have temp internet / email access again... Hope everyone had a lovely weekend and talk witchyall soon!... Smiles, Cara :) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 10:47:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3164A3BEE0; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5269 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:47:41 UTC Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 09:52:38 +0100 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: new music posted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 9349460833cdd974 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 10:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Hi, just updated our podcast after a long break with our first attempt at playing with a drummer. I think it worked out - would love to hear some opinions. See here: http://www.collective.co.uk/darkroom/podcast.html cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.collective.co.uk/ http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 11:15:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D95F23BEE7; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 614396557-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.150.35 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4HAO3VEkdPQpYj/2dsb2JhbACCKaAL Message-ID: <47134BE4.4080904@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:15:48 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new music posted References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:15:34 +0000 (UTC) hi Os I'm keen to hear this, but doesn't appear to be on the feed version. Anyone, is there a way to download from a podcast without installing I-tunes?(on Win) andybutler Os wrote: > Hi, > > just updated our podcast after a long break with our first attempt at > playing with a drummer. I think it worked out - would love to hear > some opinions. > > See here: http://www.collective.co.uk/darkroom/podcast.html > > > cheers, > os. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 11:34:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8350A3BEE7; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=gPOpoYrcFbeVlDGpaRagdvAdUmu6ILskud9PfC8wXx8=; b=naUGH/CmARXGCd/cBNMojSaditLiI8u+TSoiSUlQfU2BIFHidTBCwCnkxmnnM29eaCc/BR1HJqbuOV4fvs93OnqpzE3UqW42FRUMa5fgXvPPXyHZ/h5j03OmRvcAok9b/n5H3UCQrRpQZr6k3CSM/XpLA9QYBzUOQ6vmTUZw25I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=PdIt3xrxcO5V/2O7lvwdP1M4TlujOg7G0m7yoko3lDkz3dRiS0VtHTeCWMC9x9DSlAHFA9V0IhCf93Z2vPCgO0V8I6p4CzerDvcQuvkSE10Z7qkumMe7u0RxJgNYg4sBrCvyABhceBqQozwMCM1Bh00qnb2fUq2nsYRocaP187I= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:27:02 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new music posted In-Reply-To: <47134BE4.4080904@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21249_11963893.1192447622783" References: <47134BE4.4080904@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: <-26CBD.A.BpC.9A1EHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:34:21 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_21249_11963893.1192447622783 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline worked fine here. downloaded the upper link, isn't that the new stuff? later i listen to it. thanks os for sharing. raul. 2007/10/15, andy butler : > > hi Os > I'm keen to hear this, > but doesn't appear to be on the feed version. > > Anyone, is there a way to download from a podcast without installing > I-tunes?(on Win) > > andybutler > > Os wrote: > > Hi, > > > > just updated our podcast after a long break with our first attempt at > > playing with a drummer. I think it worked out - would love to hear > > some opinions. > > > > See here: http://www.collective.co.uk/darkroom/podcast.html > > > > > > cheers, > > os. > > > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_21249_11963893.1192447622783 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline worked fine here.
    downloaded the upper link, isn't that the new stuff?
    later i listen to it.

    thanks os for sharing.
    raul.

    2007/10/15, andy butler < akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>:
    hi Os
    I'm keen to hear this,
    but doesn't appear to be on the feed version.

    Anyone, is there a way to download from a podcast without installing I-tunes?(on Win)

    andybutler

    Os wrote:
    > Hi,
    >
    > just updated our podcast after a long break with our first attempt at
    > playing with a drummer. I think it worked out - would love to hear
    > some opinions.
    >
    > See here: http://www.collective.co.uk/darkroom/podcast.html
    >
    >
    > cheers,
    > os.
    >




    --
    The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_21249_11963893.1192447622783-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 11:48:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 033BA3BEEC; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:48:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: Subject: RE: whoops... just found me on YouTube ;-) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:48:43 +0200 Message-ID: <004401c80f21$56a23eb0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcgPIKowiSAq1EEjS/qyqtb44YhjsgAAIelQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:48:50 +0000 (UTC) > I'm the guy in red suit with red guitar. far out stuff Per. Not in a hundred years I would have recognized you. :-) big in Japan ... -Michael P From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 12:37:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 171D13BED6; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:37:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 634267543-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.150.35 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4HAMv7EkdPQpYj/2dsb2JhbACCKaBF Message-ID: <47135F0C.3030501@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:37:32 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new music posted References: <47134BE4.4080904@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:37:19 +0000 (UTC) One 2007 song there, ...with no drums on it Raul Bonell wrote: > worked fine here. > downloaded the upper link, isn't that the new stuff? > later i listen to it. > > thanks os for sharing. > raul. > > 2007/10/15, andy butler < akbutler@tiscali.co.uk > >: > > hi Os > I'm keen to hear this, > but doesn't appear to be on the feed version. > > Anyone, is there a way to download from a podcast without installing > I-tunes?(on Win) > > andybutler > > Os wrote: > > Hi, > > > > just updated our podcast after a long break with our first > attempt at > > playing with a drummer. I think it worked out - would love to hear > > some opinions. > > > > See here: http://www.collective.co.uk/darkroom/podcast.html > > > > > > > cheers, > > os. > > > > > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 13:02:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 369A33BF01; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=nkFpG7Z6PNE0pw2K0JPVjLQIHKF6YT5ZehrIXOsura0=; b=kdT7T6o0LaPI2LSBnciBDXYCKc9TFVbq+d5fCzV3f7Av+a6Lng7JPUBVXHWDN3H8MzZlIIJNoqKv+g46UH0kyMtIhdGzp1HsMOGY8WtgweEZ1zPfQLMRzh6YRhDj6eCgFl/qPGDIkTV3Iiif9Q6Jb/7cGhJTd8XbDa7zlPgnnwk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=EIDAWIz89c4ZvdbnsB2iEvn02CDiEo16OqXVQ0iFiaEzLOqr/ytMopizutkKKRbGgwOq21hVaTLVQPz7mgu2fNutSGAJz2CJuVpzf3gowmEXN5k2ZPloMB76HVkEKcmnrgUsWMIGNVuwcfK5rExImOA0pUhetA9Nw6nDVCXTCOo= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:02:16 +0100 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new music posted In-Reply-To: <47134BE4.4080904@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47134BE4.4080904@tiscali.co.uk> X-Google-Sender-Auth: f48e7ffaadd169fb Resent-Message-ID: <_KsE6B.A.0mF.aT2EHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 13:02:18 +0000 (UTC) If you just go to http://feeds.feedburner.com/FreeMusicFromDarkroom in a web browser, it should give you the list of tracks and direct links to the mp3s. os. On 15/10/2007, andy butler wrote: > hi Os > I'm keen to hear this, > but doesn't appear to be on the feed version. > > Anyone, is there a way to download from a podcast without installing I-tunes?(on Win) > > andybutler > > Os wrote: > > Hi, > > > > just updated our podcast after a long break with our first attempt at > > playing with a drummer. I think it worked out - would love to hear > > some opinions. > > > > See here: http://www.collective.co.uk/darkroom/podcast.html > > > > > > cheers, > > os. > > > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.collective.co.uk/ http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 17:02:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 361843BEE0; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:02:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 720 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:02:51 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_50dcb974-0e21-4743-af26-9571e6454cde_" X-Originating-IP: [151.37.79.115] From: Lorenzo Orlandini To: Subject: Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:50:47 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20071015010604.9AECE3BEB3@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20071015010604.9AECE3BEB3@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2007 16:50:48.0200 (UTC) FILETIME=[89632880:01C80F4B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:02:52 +0000 (UTC) --_50dcb974-0e21-4743-af26-9571e6454cde_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi everyone, I'm new to the list and after an attempt at looping gone bad a= few months ago, I am trying to start over again to see if things are more = successful this time.=20 I need some good advice from experts. I play guitar in a band, and would li= ke to loop bits and riffs over the electronic rhytmics another member of th= e band makes with fruity loops. I tried an RC 20 XL, but it didnt work out = since it wasnt midi-synchable. So I am going to try using a MIDI footcontro= ller and use a software to loop my guitar - the software will be clearly mi= di synched to fruity loops.=20 My questions are:=20 1. does it sound like a good plan?=20 2. what software do you recommend for live, real time looping? I think some= thing simple would be best because i am not very familiar with MIDI technol= ogy and it will have to be controlled via midi footcontroller. =20 Thanks a lot to everyone for reading this, and thanks to those who will tak= e the time to reply! W. _________________________________________________________________ Crea i tuoi biglietti da visita con Windows Live Messenger! http://www.messenger.it/biglietti_da_visita.html= --_50dcb974-0e21-4743-af26-9571e6454cde_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    hi everyone, I'm= new to the list and after an attempt at looping gone bad a few months ago,= I am trying to start over again to see if things are more successful this = time.

    I need some good advice from experts. I play guitar in a band= , and would like to loop bits and riffs over the electronic rhytmics anothe= r member of the band makes with fruity loops. I tried an RC 20 XL, but it d= idnt work out since it wasnt midi-synchable. So I am going to try using a M= IDI footcontroller and use a software to loop my guitar - the software will= be clearly midi synched to fruity loops.

    My questions are:
    1. does it sound like a good plan?
    2. what software do you recommend f= or live, real time looping? I think something simple would be best because = i am not very familiar with MIDI technology and it will have to be controll= ed via midi footcontroller.

    Thanks a lot to everyone for reading t= his, and thanks to those who will take the time to reply!

    W.

    =

    Sfida i tuoi amici in entusiasmanti sfide con i gioch= i di Messenger! Messenger Giochi = --_50dcb974-0e21-4743-af26-9571e6454cde_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 17:45:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 697713BEF1; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:45:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 634406126-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.150.35 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4HAINDE0dPQpYj/2dsb2JhbACCKaEc Message-ID: <4713A747.3000107@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:45:43 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new music posted References: <47134BE4.4080904@tiscali.co.uk> <47135F0C.3030501@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <47135F0C.3030501@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6h9qJ.A.U1.3c6EHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:45:27 +0000 (UTC) ok here's the direct link http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/darkroom/podcast/improv_w_andy_131007_endbit.mp3 now there's no excuse andy (listening now) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 18:17:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F14C63BEF8; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:17:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <13126.167.83.10.20.1192472267.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20071015010604.9AECE3BEB3@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:17:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Marching drum loops From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32166 32167] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: <2pqg_B.A.Y-B.U76EHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:17:56 +0000 (UTC) Anyone know where I can get marching drum loops for free or reasonable cost? I'ev got killer samples but my drumming technique isn't stellar adn it loses some in the translation into a full blow track;-) Thanks! ~peace~ Plish From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 18:26:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97C263BEFF; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:26:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=HstoNDQDRtFa+7ITtwDSPOxYesQOfOuQRFcNffn/jkA=; b=bPSjTHGZIVThSLs1/53gWupv5KlYCsLus0r44wBS4rF6yNQfRsBGDG1sx240r/6UNcTZjAdfUlcQwXhpsI/V9VfX++zzYLmomXZubIOIGQnpakRUuRrfyim7DdzpisJ9tAfYCA6KYOWXXx1MDbQrAhCpr3lJrIKhsfwr4ilXEjw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Fj6AvQnptzXS97CQj/jCyAn82JthZelunrUCtUtOH60oHsZoQcW0M1Xy3M/UrTo37g2p087B4FHz/QFZXFU1Xht8NZqG3TfDG8gsewo4G0oVW5J+drkWBhTMphhtjliJhXcqGBIm68/FfKUq2jFzU4aG6yLeXS0MNMGu5emDMCI= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:26:28 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Marching drum loops In-Reply-To: <13126.167.83.10.20.1192472267.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20071015010604.9AECE3BEB3@arsenic.violacea.com> <13126.167.83.10.20.1192472267.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:26:31 +0000 (UTC) I found this site recently while looking for drum patterns. http://www.cyberus.ca/~pauljohnston/drumputer/ rather interesting Tony On 10/15/07, mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > Anyone know where I can get marching drum loops for free or reasonable > cost? I'ev got killer samples but my drumming technique isn't stellar adn > it loses some in the translation into a full blow track;-) > > Thanks! > > ~peace~ > > Plish > > -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 18:45:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D8503BEFF; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:45:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_df08b928-8847-4c57-a55a-1bb67c253944_" X-Originating-IP: [151.37.79.115] From: Lorenzo Orlandini To: Subject: Advice on live looping software Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:45:15 +0200 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2007 18:45:16.0302 (UTC) FILETIME=[87185AE0:01C80F5B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:45:19 +0000 (UTC) --_df08b928-8847-4c57-a55a-1bb67c253944_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi everyone, I'm new to the list and after an attempt at looping gone=0A= bad a few months ago, I am trying to start over again to see if things=0A= are more successful this time.=20 I need some good advice from=0A= experts. I play guitar in a band, and would like to loop bits and riffs=0A= over the electronic rhytmics another member of the band makes with=0A= fruity loops. I tried an RC 20 XL, but it didnt work out since it wasnt=0A= midi-synchable. So I am going to try using a MIDI footcontroller and=0A= use a software to loop my guitar - the software will be clearly midi=0A= synched to fruity loops.=20 My questions are:=20 1. does it sound like a good plan?=20 2.=0A= what software do you recommend for live, real time looping? I think=0A= something simple would be best because i am not very familiar with MIDI=0A= technology and it will have to be controlled via midi footcontroller.=20 Thanks a lot to everyone for reading this, and thanks to those who will tak= e the time to reply! W. P.S. Sorry I forgot to type in a subject for my email before, so i thought = I'd repost it.=20 _________________________________________________________________ Scarica GRATIS la versione personalizzata MSN di Internet Explorer 7! http://optimizedie7.msn.com/default.aspx?mkt=3Dit-it= --_df08b928-8847-4c57-a55a-1bb67c253944_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    hi everyone, I'm= new to the list and after an attempt at looping gone=0A= bad a few months ago, I am trying to start over again to see if things=0A= are more successful this time.

    I need some good advice from=0A= experts. I play guitar in a band, and would like to loop bits and riffs=0A= over the electronic rhytmics another member of the band makes with=0A= fruity loops. I tried an RC 20 XL, but it didnt work out since it wasnt=0A= midi-synchable. So I am going to try using a MIDI footcontroller and=0A= use a software to loop my guitar - the software will be clearly midi=0A= synched to fruity loops.

    My questions are:

    1. does it sound= like a good plan?
    2.=0A= what software do you recommend for live, real time looping? I think=0A= something simple would be best because i am not very familiar with MIDI=0A= technology and it will have to be controlled via midi footcontroller.
    <= br>Thanks a lot to everyone for reading this, and thanks to those who will = take the time to reply!

    W.

    P.S. Sorry I forgot to type in a s= ubject for my email before, so i thought I'd repost it.

    5 GB di spazio, filtro anti spam e interfaccia personalizzabile GRATIS p= er te! Windows Live Hotmail = --_df08b928-8847-4c57-a55a-1bb67c253944_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 19:39:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 362563BEE8; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:39:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-AuditID: 8419fe0f-00000ec8000005f0-b3-4713c1e02e34 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Advice on live looping software Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:39:11 +0200 Message-ID: <200710151939.l9FJdCu8027402@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Advice on live looping software Thread-Index: AcgPW473EpUfsvmORT6X7efoHKxhVQABp0FA References: From: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2007 19:39:12.0400 (UTC) FILETIME=[0FF5B900:01C80F63] X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:39:15 +0000 (UTC) HELLO Lorenzo! I am also new to the list and looping. So I was hesitant in replying at first. But since you posted again and no one else has answered, I will give you my 2 cents; I think that the Digitech Jamman might be perfect for you! I have never owned one, though. But I have been doing quite a bit of research online and I chose to purchase a Boss DD-20 Gigadelay. Although I don't think that would be what you need. You should read all the reviews for the Jamman on the "tools of the trade" section of the 'loopers delight' website. With the Jamman, you can build loop after loop after loop...AND IT HAS A MIDI INTERFACE BUILT RIGHT IN! Good luck! david =20 -----Original Message----- From: Lorenzo Orlandini [mailto:weaviestonder@hotmail.it]=20 Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 8:45 PM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Advice on live looping software hi everyone, I'm new to the list and after an attempt at looping gone bad a few months ago, I am trying to start over again to see if things are more successful this time.=20 I need some good advice from experts. I play guitar in a band, and would like to loop bits and riffs over the electronic rhytmics another member of the band makes with fruity loops. I tried an RC 20 XL, but it didnt work out since it wasnt midi-synchable. So I am going to try using a MIDI footcontroller and use a software to loop my guitar - the software will be clearly midi synched to fruity loops.=20 My questions are:=20 1. does it sound like a good plan?=20 2. what software do you recommend for live, real time looping? I think something simple would be best because i am not very familiar with MIDI technology and it will have to be controlled via midi footcontroller.=20 Thanks a lot to everyone for reading this, and thanks to those who will take the time to reply! W. P.S. Sorry I forgot to type in a subject for my email before, so i thought I'd repost it.=20 ________________________________ 5 GB di spazio, filtro anti spam e interfaccia personalizzabile GRATIS per te! Windows Live Hotmail =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 19:50:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEFB63BEF8; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:50:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 12:50:34 -0700 From: Niall Munnelly To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Drum Machine emergency Message-ID: <20071015195034.GB23741@zim.dreamhost.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:50:36 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 09:09:41PM -0700, Matt Davignon wrote: > > 2) Fortunately, I got my new drum machine a few weeks ago, so > hopefully I can program enough kits tonight to be not completely > useless for my show tomorrow! Supposedly it's streaming on the > internet, but I can't see where the streaming link is. > http://tinyurl.com/39rzwd > > So, I may be debuting the new drum machine earlier than expected! What drum machine did you acquire, I ask you? -- This Machinedrum's Made for Loopin'-ly Yours, Niall. .. . . . . . . . . . Aleph Null. A Simple Insinuation Around Silence. http://aleph-null.net .. .. gpg public key - http://aleph-null.net/niall.gpg .. .. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 20:27:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CD483BEF0; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:27:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 721 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:27:07 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6f536dd0-2451-4748-8912-860473730c53_" X-Originating-IP: [75.31.130.29] From: aaron leese To: Subject: RE: Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:15:05 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <20071015010604.9AECE3BEB3@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2007 20:15:05.0752 (UTC) FILETIME=[13752980:01C80F68] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:27:07 +0000 (UTC) --_6f536dd0-2451-4748-8912-860473730c53_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20 Lorenzo -- =20 By the way .... since many of us are off in California this week for the Y2= K7 loopfest (Y2Kloopfest.com) ... you may get better responses next week. =20 Also, try checking the archives ... plenty of threads have already dealt wi= th pretty thorough discussions on this subject (every couple of weeks someo= ne new shows up to ask what the best looper is). =20 There is no clear concensus ... but you can get a good feel for the field j= ust reading the archived stuff. =20 cheers Aaron Leese _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook =96 together at last. =A0= Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=3DCL10062= 6971033= --_6f536dd0-2451-4748-8912-860473730c53_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
     
     
    Lorenzo --
     
    By the way .... since many of us are off in California this week for the Y2= K7 loopfest (Y2Kloopfest.com) ... you may get better responses next week.  
    Also, try checking the archives ... plenty of threads have already dealt wi= th pretty thorough discussions on this subject (every couple of weeks someo= ne new shows up to ask what the best looper is).
     
    There is no clear concensus ... but you can get a good feel for the field j= ust reading the archived stuff.
     
    cheers
    Aaron Leese

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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 20:46:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 912473BEF4; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:46:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=rlv3DX147Or8wcNPHOIA:9 a=NwQyWAGVpVp6-aCcj_tr3yVlJk0A:4 a=OUKbW-zgSzYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=50e4U0PicR4A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.mail=echohead@embarqmail.com; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=echohead@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp07.embarq.synacor.com: 71.48.241.17 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of embarqmail.com) Message-ID: <002201c80f6c$82030620$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <200710151939.l9FJdCu8027402@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> Subject: Re: Advice on live looping software Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:46:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: <09SOB.A.RoH.5G9EHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:46:49 +0000 (UTC) Hi Lorenzo, The Digitech Jamman does not have midi control capabilities. Hardware loopers that do would be the boss rc-50, the Echoplex digital pro, and others that I have not used. The old Lexicon Jamman did have midi sync and you can still find them on ebay. Good Luck, and do read the LD site http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/tools.html Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" To: Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 3:39 PM Subject: RE: Advice on live looping software You should read all the reviews for the Jamman on the "tools of the trade" section of the 'loopers delight' website. With the Jamman, you can build loop after loop after loop...AND IT HAS A MIDI INTERFACE BUILT RIGHT IN! Good luck! david -----Original Message----- From: Lorenzo Orlandini [mailto:weaviestonder@hotmail.it] Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 8:45 PM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Advice on live looping software hi everyone, I'm new to the list and after an attempt at looping gone bad a few months ago, I am trying to start over again to see if things are more successful this time. I need some good advice from experts. I play guitar in a band, and would like to loop bits and riffs over the electronic rhytmics another member of the band makes with fruity loops. I tried an RC 20 XL, but it didnt work out since it wasnt midi-synchable. So I am going to try using a MIDI footcontroller and use a software to loop my guitar - the software will be clearly midi synched to fruity loops. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 21:01:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 813D53BEF8; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:01:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=g3/e4eY8FGK8NRRZLMR6KZOwV2wFKG/AOS6mq0cGzuM=; b=Kj8yqBvIZ60CSP7J7MD3p4uA9enhvnGGmwFKi97XsNqTGOyFoM54Jn59LoIvc0iXWw3YnebplMiQI3GYGUIIB7bYzaEFb4gCIJ425UAFklTWNHxeZzfSdHX0Arok9hxIRWYVo2feFV+uvoAMwecigw6g0rWdCZ/s+Pe3N9DOL6A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=TpO/cKsvtTfWHnBLpsIBfYXFtCRACnVJON9h+M091TpnrHoAjHav2SAdRNqIC/ih+gEyuN+MdJPtmC3LVI+bo8J6b6Zeku6jOhWfTF5bdZYjQTvsVoN+RdAxsNqtzoKebG3Tl4I3wf3JncZfkMsEiJoKrql14ECe88TMUmcvw6g= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:01:54 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new music posted In-Reply-To: <4713A747.3000107@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_24320_10245367.1192482114621" References: <47134BE4.4080904@tiscali.co.uk> <47135F0C.3030501@tiscali.co.uk> <4713A747.3000107@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:01:57 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_24320_10245367.1192482114621 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline nice ambient work. it's dense but you can fix your attention on different elements. kind of space-delay-wizardry. keep it soft=A1 =A1 =A1=A1 =A1 =A1 ra=FCl. 2007/10/15, andy butler : > > ok here's the direct link > > > > http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/darkroom/podcast/improv_w_andy_131007_en= dbit.mp3 > > > now there's no excuse > > andy (listening now) > > --=20 The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_24320_10245367.1192482114621 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline nice ambient work.
    it's dense but you can fix your
    attention on= different elements.
    kind of space-delay-wizardry.

    keep it soft= =A1 =A1 =A1=A1 =A1  =A1

    ra=FCl.

    2007/10/15, andy butler < akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>:
    ok here'= s the direct link


    http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/darkroom/po= dcast/improv_w_andy_131007_endbit.mp3


    now there's no exc= use

    andy (listening now)




    --
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    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra<= /a> ------=_Part_24320_10245367.1192482114621-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 21:12:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC20F3BF00; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 35133 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:12:40 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=GEtg5AUbYUhBPOMWheU9imiVyMAIS9VU169ppj55TLE=; b=ChkOLtRC2NJeoRRY5+74GbnsUJLDYnYP3YF0/Vsth4Aeg6AEYL3GlYj4kW8XznIwj1cAwIdIC13w8GPJZ+RyJGJtFqMnZ35SQOVHbcXWtFfd/sHkGg2D+cSxdLgz9NyZdzIMH5lDxnQnpz66KdsoUrKcqYhgjWAK9FqO4KcKL7c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=rVPZajpxuRHK06oqzoLe5JwUQU3D+HX9G8FmXPDvMo9O1n2EFA2WrnAHnTbSuj6gmBsC25g9sMoyxmo3sE8OEsyC5Wv3MG5MgdFMCJ4HNENnHkdzR25sNXOAFQiIedLD1q94ku93TvnVzQFh+6aMpzN4QzHe6CUrclqashd8yfQ= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:12:37 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_24372_2556067.1192482757937" References: <20071015010604.9AECE3BEB3@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 21:12:40 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_24372_2556067.1192482757937 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2007/10/15, Lorenzo Orlandini : > > > > My questions are: > > 1. does it sound like a good plan? > why not? 2. what software do you recommend for live, real time looping? > mobius for win. (not into mac world... by now! ) I think something simple would be best because i am not very familiar with > MIDI technology and it will have to be controlled via midi footcontroller. > the software will be clearly midi synched to fruity loops. > you'll need a host (sequencer,modular, whatever...) to pass fruities clock to mobius/vst (if working within the same computer).... not an expert as you requested, but hope this helps a bit while our masters of loopage knowledge travel to california to eschange more loopage knowledge.... ;-) mobius can be as simple as the simplest looper in world if you just use its basic functions. try it, www.zonemobius.com raul. -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_24372_2556067.1192482757937 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

    2007/10/15, Lorenzo Orlandini <weaviestonder@hotmail.it>:


    My questions are:

    1. does it sound like a good plan?

    why not?

    2. what software do you recommend for live, real time looping?

    mobius for win. (not into mac world... by now! )

    I think something simple would be best because i am not very familiar with MIDI technology and it will have to be controlled via midi footcontroller. the software will be clearly midi synched to fruity loops.

    you'll need a host (sequencer,modular, whatever...) to pass fruities clock to mobius/vst
    (if working within the same computer)....

    not an expert as you requested, but hope this helps a bit while our masters of loopage knowledge
    travel to california to eschange more loopage knowledge.... ;-)


    mobius can be as simple as the simplest looper
    in world if you just use its basic functions.

    try it,

    www.zonemobius.com

    raul.


    --
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    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
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    ------=_Part_24378_25141200.1192482821055-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 22:02:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF40B3BEDA; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:02:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <380-22007101152221119@M2W025.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: qua@oregon.com X-Originating-IP: 134.134.136.4 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "qua@oregon.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:02:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: simple mobius foot control Resent-Message-ID: <1UAQrB.A.7mC.nN-EHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:02:15 +0000 (UTC) Hi, What is recommended as basic foot controller for mobius or other midi-controllable loopers=2E I assume the FCB, since its so popular=2E A= re there other smaller-sized ones that are "plug and play" - ie , could control Mobius with minimal "programming" =3F -Qua Original Message: ----------------- From: Raul Bonell raul=2Ebonell@gmail=2Ecom Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:12:37 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight=2Ecom Subject: Re: =2E=2E=2Emobius can be as simple as the simplest looper in world if you just use its basic functions=2E try it, www=2Ezonemobius=2Ecom raul=2E -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web=2Ecom - Microsoft=AE Exchange solutions from a leading provider -= http://link=2Email2web=2Ecom/Business/Exchange From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 22:27:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CD1B3BEFB; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:27:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_f599732b-a7c2-4844-aa41-41238e8d381a_" X-Originating-IP: [151.37.79.115] From: Lorenzo Orlandini To: Subject: RE: Advice on live looping software Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:27:39 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002201c80f6c$82030620$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> References: <200710151939.l9FJdCu8027402@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> <002201c80f6c$82030620$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2007 22:27:39.0237 (UTC) FILETIME=[981AA950:01C80F7A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:27:41 +0000 (UTC) --_f599732b-a7c2-4844-aa41-41238e8d381a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks David, Jeff! I considered the Jamman and the RC 50 too, but since they are very expensiv= e I tought I'd give the footcontroller+software option a chance.=20 I read the tools section in loopersdelight before posting, but there are so= many software listed it is a bit confusing for someone like me who's basic= ally new to the trade.=20 That is why I asked you guys for advice ;) thanks a lot everybody Lorenzo > From: echohead@embarqmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Advice on live looping software > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:46:45 -0400 >=20 > Hi Lorenzo, > The Digitech Jamman does not have midi control capabilities. Hardware=20 > loopers that do would be the boss rc-50, the Echoplex digital pro, and=20 > others that I have not used. The old Lexicon Jamman did have midi sync an= d=20 > you can still find them on ebay. > Good Luck, and do read the LD site > http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/tools.html >=20 > Jeff >=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" > To: > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 3:39 PM > Subject: RE: Advice on live looping software >=20 >=20 > You should read all the reviews for the Jamman on the "tools of the > trade" section of the 'loopers delight' website. > With the Jamman, you can build loop after loop after loop...AND IT HAS A > MIDI INTERFACE BUILT RIGHT IN! >=20 > Good luck! > david >=20 >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Lorenzo Orlandini [mailto:weaviestonder@hotmail.it] > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 8:45 PM > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Advice on live looping software >=20 > hi everyone, I'm new to the list and after an attempt at looping gone > bad a few months ago, I am trying to start over again to see if things > are more successful this time. >=20 > I need some good advice from experts. I play guitar in a band, and would > like to loop bits and riffs over the electronic rhytmics another member > of the band makes with fruity loops. I tried an RC 20 XL, but it didnt > work out since it wasnt midi-synchable. So I am going to try using a > MIDI footcontroller and use a software to loop my guitar - the software > will be clearly midi synched to fruity loops. >=20 >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Conosci Doretta? Contattala, =E8 ora su Messenger! http://www.doretta82.it/banner/index.html= --_f599732b-a7c2-4844-aa41-41238e8d381a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Thanks David, Je= ff!

    I considered the Jamman and the RC 50 too, but since they are ve= ry expensive I tought I'd give the footcontroller+software option a chance.=
    I read the tools section in loopersdelight before posting, but there a= re so many software listed it is a bit confusing for someone like me who's = basically new to the trade.
    That is why I asked you guys for advice ;)<= br>
    thanks a lot everybody

    Lorenzo



    > From: echohead@embarqmail.com
    > To: Loopers-Delig= ht@loopers-delight.com
    > Subject: Re: Advice on live looping software=
    > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:46:45 -0400
    >
    > Hi Lorenzo,=
    > The Digitech Jamman does not have midi control capabilities. Har= dware
    > loopers that do would be the boss rc-50, the Echoplex digita= l pro, and
    > others that I have not used. The old Lexicon Jamman did= have midi sync and
    > you can still find them on ebay.
    > Good = Luck, and do read the LD site
    > http://www.loopers-delight.com/tool= s/tools.html
    >
    > Jeff
    >
    >
    > ----- Origina= l Message -----
    > From: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" <David.= Moore@ramstein.af.mil>
    > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.c= om>
    > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 3:39 PM
    > Subject: RE: = Advice on live looping software
    >
    >
    > You should read a= ll the reviews for the Jamman on the "tools of the
    > trade" section o= f the 'loopers delight' website.
    > With the Jamman, you can build loo= p after loop after loop...AND IT HAS A
    > MIDI INTERFACE BUILT RIGHT I= N!
    >
    > Good luck!
    > david
    >
    >
    >
    = > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Lorenzo Orlandini [mailto:wea= viestonder@hotmail.it]
    > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2007 8:45 PM
    &g= t; To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
    > Subject: Advice on live = looping software
    >
    > hi everyone, I'm new to the list and afte= r an attempt at looping gone
    > bad a few months ago, I am trying to s= tart over again to see if things
    > are more successful this time.
    = >
    > I need some good advice from experts. I play guitar in a band= , and would
    > like to loop bits and riffs over the electronic rhytmic= s another member
    > of the band makes with fruity loops. I tried an RC= 20 XL, but it didnt
    > work out since it wasnt midi-synchable. So I a= m going to try using a
    > MIDI footcontroller and use a software to lo= op my guitar - the software
    > will be clearly midi synched to fruity = loops.
    >
    >

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Windows Live Spaces = --_f599732b-a7c2-4844-aa41-41238e8d381a_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 22:31:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 588AD3BEF4; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:31:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <102801c80f7b$25d43f40$23b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <380-22007101152221119@M2W025.mail2web.com> Subject: Re: simple mobius foot control Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:31:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <5gVcH.A.7qD.Kp-EHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:31:38 +0000 (UTC) MIDI Moose. Small, battery powered, no programming necessary....just plug into your computer's MIDI interface, open Mobius, go to the MIDI assignment section, check MIDI Learn (or whatever Jeff calls it), and start pressing the buttons you want for each function. I programmed my MIDI Moose with Mobius for street gigs in about 60 seconds. Kris Hi, What is recommended as basic foot controller for mobius or other midi-controllable loopers. I assume the FCB, since its so popular. Are there other smaller-sized ones that are "plug and play" - ie , could control Mobius with minimal "programming" ? -Qua Original Message: ----------------- From: Raul Bonell raul.bonell@gmail.com Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:12:37 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ...mobius can be as simple as the simplest looper in world if you just use its basic functions. try it, www.zonemobius.com raul. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - Microsoft® Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 22:42:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 471EC3BF04; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:42:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 720 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:42:17 UTC Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_05e7f2aa-20e9-4706-b78c-339181502105_" X-Originating-IP: [151.37.79.115] From: Lorenzo Orlandini To: Subject: RE: Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:30:16 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <20071015010604.9AECE3BEB3@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2007 22:30:16.0280 (UTC) FILETIME=[F5B58580:01C80F7A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:42:18 +0000 (UTC) --_05e7f2aa-20e9-4706-b78c-339181502105_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Raul,=20 I downloaded Mobius and I am going to try it out ASAP.=20 I will wait till the others get back from Cali so I can get more info. Than= ks for now, you have been very helpful.=20 Lorenzo Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:12:37 +0200 From: raul.bonell@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 2007/10/15, Lorenzo Orlandini :=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= My questions are:=20 1. does it sound like a good plan?=20 why not?=20 =0A= 2. what software do you recommend for live, real time looping? mobius for win. (not into mac world... by now! )=20 =0A= I think something simple would be best because i am not very familiar with= MIDI technology and it will have to be controlled via midi footcontroller.= the software will be clearly midi synched to fruity loops. =0A= you'll need a host (sequencer,modular, whatever...) to pass fruities clock = to mobius/vst (if working within the same computer).... not an expert as you requested, but hope this helps a bit while our masters= of loopage knowledge=0A= travel to california to eschange more loopage knowledge.... ;-) mobius can be as simple as the simplest looper=20 in world if you just use its basic functions. try it, =0A= www.zonemobius.com raul. --=20 The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: =0A= http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra=0A= _________________________________________________________________ Scarica GRATIS 30 emoticon per Messenger! http://www.emoticons-livemessenger.com/pages/msnit/index.htm= --_05e7f2aa-20e9-4706-b78c-339181502105_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Thanks Raul,
    I downloaded Mobius and I am going to try it out ASAP.
    I will wait= till the others get back from Cali so I can get more info. Thanks for now,= you have been very helpful.

    Lorenzo



    Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:12:37 +0200
    From= : raul.bonell@gmail.com
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subje= ct: Re:



    2007/10/15, Lore= nzo Orlandini <weaviestonder= @hotmail.it>:
    =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=


    My questions are:

    1. = does it sound like a good plan?

    why not? =

    =0A=
    2. what software do you recommend for= live, real time looping?

    mobius for win. = (not into mac world... by now! )

    =0A=
    I think something simple would be be= st because i am not very familiar with MIDI technology and it will have to = be controlled via midi footcontroller. the software will be clearly midi sy= nched to fruity loops. =0A=

    you'll need a host (sequencer,modular= , whatever...) to pass fruities clock to mobius/vst
    (if working within t= he same computer)....

    not an expert as you requested, but hope this = helps a bit while our masters of loopage knowledge=0A=
    travel to california to eschange more loopage knowledge.... ;-)

    =

    mobius can be as simple as the simplest looper
    in world = if you just use its basic functions.

    try it,

    =0A= www.zonemobius.com

    raul.


    --=
    The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Coll= ective: =0A= http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/th= eplayingorchestra=0A=
    Le emoticon compiono 25 anni!...e Messenger te le = ragala! 25mo anniversario delle emoticon = --_05e7f2aa-20e9-4706-b78c-339181502105_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 15 23:26:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B881D3BED6; Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:26:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <380-2200710115232653135@M2W007.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: qua@oregon.com X-Originating-IP: 134.134.136.4 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "qua@oregon.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:26:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: simple mobius foot control Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:26:55 +0000 (UTC) Ah! thanks! Original Message: ----------------- From: Krispen Hartung khartung@cableone=2Enet Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:31:35 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight=2Ecom Subject: Re: simple mobius foot control MIDI Moose=2E Small, battery powered, no programming necessary=2E=2E=2E=2E= just plug=20 into your computer's MIDI interface, open Mobius, go to the MIDI assignmen= t=20 section, check MIDI Learn (or whatever Jeff calls it), and start pressing=20= the buttons you want for each function=2E I programmed my MIDI Moose with=20= Mobius for street gigs in about 60 seconds=2E Kris Hi, What is recommended as basic foot controller for mobius or other midi-controllable loopers=2E I assume the FCB, since its so popular=2E A= re there other smaller-sized ones that are "plug and play" - ie , could control Mobius with minimal "programming" =3F -Qua Original Message: ----------------- From: Raul Bonell raul=2Ebonell@gmail=2Ecom Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:12:37 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight=2Ecom Subject: Re: =2E=2E=2Emobius can be as simple as the simplest looper in world if you just use its basic functions=2E try it, www=2Ezonemobius=2Ecom raul=2E -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web=2Ecom - Microsoft=AE Exchange solutions from a leading provider -= http://link=2Email2web=2Ecom/Business/Exchange -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link=2Email2web=2Ecom/mail2web From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 16 02:08:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA0193BEF0; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:08:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=24TvVBhkT5O1S2FJfmSlNP8ZeKU5CrQRtVUxHvoKrAE=; b=JEL927nA2D0NF6GsbeE17d6sYrSFECncrvLOKKYRRBuaoXqM8/LA3+J4hXyoLWUnFF0sgUsftkLCfDvPPpIm7GYadpLDuVhqaefJ7LNUU+xQdzQ8Oi8g7NFNuDmAYPoPdkyLeeq3y7fU1f6x1tHHqvc6tc3XK/ukUL0PQbRivew= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UAj5jxrXNtEwtS1rlN9MblixNQgUtDxnBybxoLFVQaPy+Kxymy1qWe3JY939T23bDsaXUQHvvq1Ys5T4wZ4gFddgtNVrLaN7iaKbj1MyLtBtSJo2nZiKiU+ILNeKaKkS2t7zKmdoFuuRUDFAloE64NSVWz9dNoMxxxOwmQ3lboc= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:08:16 -0700 From: "Matt Davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Drum Machine emergency In-Reply-To: <20071015195034.GB23741@zim.dreamhost.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20071015195034.GB23741@zim.dreamhost.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:08:18 +0000 (UTC) Niall Munnelly was like: > What drum machine did you acquire, I ask you? The old drum machine was a Boss DR-660. The new one is a DR-770. The advantages are --I can build more drum kits in the new one. 128 total instead of 36. --The drum samples are more hi-fi. (Actually, I'm not sure if that's a real advantage for what I do.) The cymbal/hi-hat sounds are much more realistic. --New sounds like tabla and gongs. --4 different 'bass' sounds, if that's what you're into. Downsides: --some of the useful subtle samples like 'finger snaps' are replaced by silly ones like "tape rewind" and "bel biv davoe horn stab", --The "play patterns" button is right next to the drumroll button. So if i'm slighty clumsy it will change the drumkit and start playing cheesy rhythms rather than giving me the drumroll sound I want. --My favorite sound, the TR-808 tom "boop" sound, doesn't have as long of a decay as it used to. I don't think I can ever upgrade to the snazzy DR-880 because it doesn't appear to have a drumroll button. In other news, there's a new mp3 "fly in mouth" on my myspace page. www.myspace.com/mattdavignon. That's with the old drum machine. I have to figure out my new Edirol R-09 recorder before I post any newer ones. Looking forward to meeting many of you (for the first time or again) at Y2k7 this weekend. I'm petsitting this weekend so I won't be able to stay as long as normal. Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 16 02:19:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD9A73BEEC; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:19:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ge5V2BJXqNphJAviuV0N6Ksuebh70G34/HQMxAa4cIPgpT4PHwUNVdBYZPnrz3+mKdQRd7w8EkkQszOBF2mO9zhS2GbLvloGQz4gZUeOvaqhypyPSb2lL6c8INOM4vvnd7f0UlVqdEb6m7OMx5z7aiwTGp0Q6gO0PpiIsgDmrjk=; X-YMail-OSG: HJCItdwVM1ma50Qfe5.Pt6txcMGVvQAGGaODXPUoc.04PUlaFDhQdOpnlrssQNZPpYxszuuCvQFfsrX6Lw2haq1F5XFZnm7Pgbq2H7040qa93vf5L08- Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 19:19:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Drum Machine emergency To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <97999.4862.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 02:19:43 +0000 (UTC) i also owned the dr-660 i thought it was a fantastic little drum machine and ive heard the dr 770 which sounds good as well,too bad they didnt put a track mute option on this one! cheers Luis --- Matt Davignon wrote: > Niall Munnelly was like: > > What drum machine did you acquire, I ask you? > > The old drum machine was a Boss DR-660. The new one > is a DR-770. > > The advantages are > --I can build more drum kits in the new one. 128 > total instead of 36. > --The drum samples are more hi-fi. (Actually, I'm > not sure if that's a > real advantage for what I do.) The cymbal/hi-hat > sounds are much more > realistic. > --New sounds like tabla and gongs. > --4 different 'bass' sounds, if that's what you're > into. > > Downsides: > --some of the useful subtle samples like 'finger > snaps' are replaced > by silly ones like "tape rewind" and "bel biv davoe > horn stab", > --The "play patterns" button is right next to the > drumroll button. So > if i'm slighty clumsy it will change the drumkit and > start playing > cheesy rhythms rather than giving me the drumroll > sound I want. > --My favorite sound, the TR-808 tom "boop" sound, > doesn't have as long > of a decay as it used to. > > I don't think I can ever upgrade to the snazzy > DR-880 because it > doesn't appear to have a drumroll button. > > In other news, there's a new mp3 "fly in mouth" on > my myspace page. > www.myspace.com/mattdavignon. That's with the old > drum machine. I have > to figure out my new Edirol R-09 recorder before I > post any newer > ones. > > Looking forward to meeting many of you (for the > first time or again) > at Y2k7 this weekend. I'm petsitting this weekend so > I won't be able > to stay as long as normal. > > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 16 03:15:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3A0D3BEEC; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 03:15:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 307 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 03:15:02 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=THa1QtNMk/j647svkvurgZdXxwRFgEaDLhtRSbhegFc=; b=UO3pa6hTO7eNFDuIOlb8a377fDp0tvKdZwIpbj/WBMFSMUuXVwhAFdkaG7ZY+iXkEo2FwcvWxH+2j0cS9EIRqHFHgxxki9FVxFdnXOVMnoQa7Ax/XTqi3QpUmkCsEK+bywp3wxCOeadz7d9tGKCgcGUBmLYME1I321NGWMyY1Rs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=M3vf1+IYO9DhWZ7kGZXkdQQhfJ5s9nlGiepU93tGV/LDG2GNnPNYVONtO5CcDaUFpbtIYi+nx/HBOETFfhhA3/giU5j4go7zP+0LLimrLPlIDMKPLk22yvmKIOZYv429HDOlbK7RXD8InIX7ObnhM1MYg6a95LBnmWujT8Win+Q= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 05:14:59 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: simple mobius foot control In-Reply-To: <380-2200710115232653135@M2W007.mail2web.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_25761_30251291.1192504499055" References: <380-2200710115232653135@M2W007.mail2web.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 03:15:02 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_25761_30251291.1192504499055 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline MIDI Moose handicap would be its price, since it's expensive for what it does. no exp pedal. at least here in europe... about 200 euros .. 260-280 USD. R. 2007/10/16, qua@oregon.com : > > Ah! thanks! > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: Krispen Hartung khartung@cableone.net > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:31:35 -0600 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: simple mobius foot control > > > MIDI Moose. Small, battery powered, no programming necessary....just plug > into your computer's MIDI interface, open Mobius, go to the MIDI > assignment > section, check MIDI Learn (or whatever Jeff calls it), and start pressing > the buttons you want for each function. I programmed my MIDI Moose with > Mobius for street gigs in about 60 seconds. > > Kris > > > > Hi, What is recommended as basic foot controller for mobius or other > midi-controllable loopers. I assume the FCB, since its so popular. Are > there other smaller-sized ones that are "plug and play" - ie , could > control Mobius with minimal "programming" ? > -Qua > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: Raul Bonell raul.bonell@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:12:37 +0200 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: > > ...mobius can be as simple as the simplest looper > in world if you just use its basic functions. > > try it, > > www.zonemobius.com > > raul. > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web.com - Microsoft(r) Exchange solutions from a leading provider - > http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web > > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_25761_30251291.1192504499055 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline MIDI Moose

    handicap would be its price,
    since it's expensive for what it does. no exp pedal.
    at least here in europe... about 200 euros
    .. 260-280 USD.

    R.

    2007/10/16, qua@oregon.com <qua@oregon.com>:
    Ah!   thanks!

    Original Message:
    -----------------
    From: Krispen Hartung khartung@cableone.net
    Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:31:35 -0600
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject: Re: simple mobius foot control


    MIDI Moose. Small, battery powered, no programming necessary....just plug
    into your computer's MIDI interface, open Mobius, go to the MIDI assignment
    section, check MIDI Learn (or whatever Jeff calls it), and start pressing
    the buttons you want for each function. I programmed my MIDI Moose with
    Mobius for street gigs in about 60 seconds.

    Kris



    Hi,   What is recommended as basic foot controller for mobius or other
    midi-controllable loopers.  I assume the FCB, since its so popular.  Are
    there other smaller-sized ones that are "plug and play" - ie , could
    control Mobius with minimal "programming" ?
    -Qua

    Original Message:
    -----------------
    From: Raul Bonell raul.bonell@gmail.com
    Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:12:37 +0200
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject: Re:

    ...mobius can be as simple as the simplest looper
    in world if you just use its basic functions.

    try it,

    www.zonemobius.com

    raul.



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    If I can be of any help on Mobius basic operation, don't hesitate to ask.

    Thanks,
    R.

    2007/10/16, Lorenzo Orlandini < weaviestonder@hotmail.it>:
    Thanks Raul,

    I downloaded Mobius and I am going to try it out ASAP.
    I will wait till the others get back from Cali so I can get more info. Thanks for now, you have been very helpful.

    Lorenzo



    Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:12:37 +0200
    From: raul.bonell@gmail.com
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject: Re:




    2007/10/15, Lorenzo Orlandini <weaviestonder@hotmail.it>:


    My questions are:

    1. does it sound like a good plan?

    why not?

    2. what software do you recommend for live, real time looping?

    mobius for win. (not into mac world... by now! )

    I think something simple would be best because i am not very familiar with MIDI technology and it will have to be controlled via midi footcontroller. the software will be clearly midi synched to fruity loops.

    you'll need a host (sequencer,modular, whatever...) to pass fruities clock to mobius/vst
    (if working within the same computer)....

    not an expert as you requested, but hope this helps a bit while our masters of loopage knowledge
    travel to california to eschange more loopage knowledge.... ;-)


    mobius can be as simple as the simplest looper
    in world if you just use its basic functions.

    try it,

    www.zonemobius.com

    raul.


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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 16 07:30:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DAF493BECF; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 07:30:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 634592499-mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.160.121 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4HAAoGFEdPQqB5/2dsb2JhbACCKY4Ekm0 Message-ID: <471468AC.9000105@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 08:30:52 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: simple mobius foot control References: <380-2200710115232653135@M2W007.mail2web.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <-htdE.A.VY.fiGFHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 07:30:39 +0000 (UTC) another handicap (guessing from the available info) is the lack of functionality. A lot of what Mobius can do will be unavailable, or more awkward to access. andy butler Raul Bonell wrote: > MIDI Moose > > handicap would be its price, > since it's expensive for what it does. no exp pedal. > at least here in europe... about 200 euros > .. 260-280 USD. > > R. > > 2007/10/16, qua@oregon.com >: > > Ah! thanks! > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: Krispen Hartung khartung@cableone.net > > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:31:35 -0600 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: simple mobius foot control > > > MIDI Moose. Small, battery powered, no programming necessary....just > plug > into your computer's MIDI interface, open Mobius, go to the MIDI > assignment > section, check MIDI Learn (or whatever Jeff calls it), and start > pressing > the buttons you want for each function. I programmed my MIDI Moose with > Mobius for street gigs in about 60 seconds. > > Kris > > > > Hi, What is recommended as basic foot controller for mobius or other > midi-controllable loopers. I assume the FCB, since its so popular. Are > there other smaller-sized ones that are "plug and play" - ie , could > control Mobius with minimal "programming" ? > -Qua > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: Raul Bonell raul.bonell@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:12:37 +0200 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: > > ...mobius can be as simple as the simplest looper > in world if you just use its basic functions. > > try it, > > www.zonemobius.com > > raul. > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web.com - Microsoft® Exchange solutions > from a leading provider - > http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web > > > > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 16 11:35:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 849793BED2; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:35:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=rDEmnFUDxcf1so+iCmzJ5Ay2UFsQJI8L6mYlRxMHlt4=; b=K3a8sH+hAKjZBFsv7Js/kyGK9vthJwSzWO7y6AvsjJO4Q6Cu1ciNcAIBf3TyqsBQ1N4nL4kvhkN2LqBjoRxPaZOhc5hziP3ge5bPHIf+wEmOfdxwHzwuf7RyJJXVa4mzNKVthH+U0MYcmB7tsk/dotT4JDOqXGUnkSRYwfBzhto= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=YZE9mp6gtzLOK0AISITkSrWF4t3K63tH97VCL23aZ9WXRHgnmNl5NmQq/8TMOnHiLt95QVaK4v7x+mJiBMr9p33XSPWnjaQZwY8Ci0DUVFk9yiUyYV5/3ygn6hVqTMq5Z33JNO6987rJC8Ujf8rgIaJ4OWGjkfvdSbCLNPeK4lw= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:28:54 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: vista MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_27667_27108537.1192534134632" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:35:00 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_27667_27108537.1192534134632 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline hi there! i was wondering how our favorite apps like Mobius, Live, Bidule, MAX/MSP, etc..are doing with Vista. has anybody some experience with laptops about this matter? is it the drivers' unstability problem again? does somebody found a stable combo solution win based laptop-interface? the pitty is that most laptop manufacturers are selling the units with vista intalled & if you change to xp you loose guaranty. maybe it's possible to re-install vista and you are again protected. i supose is not so difficult to install xp and find the drivers needed to control the internal devices of a new win based laptop, isn't? any advice? ... uff thanx, raul. -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_27667_27108537.1192534134632 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline hi there!

    i was wondering how our favorite apps like Mobius,
    Live, Bidule, MAX/MSP, etc..are doing with Vista.

    has anybody some experience with laptops about
    this matter? is it the drivers' unstability problem again?

    does somebody found a stable combo solution win based laptop-interface?

    the pitty is that most laptop manufacturers are selling
    the units with vista intalled & if you change to xp you
    loose guaranty. maybe it's possible to re-install vista
    and you are again protected.

    i supose is not so difficult to install xp and find the drivers
    needed to control the internal devices of a new win based
    laptop, isn't? any advice?


    ... uff

    thanx,
    raul.

    --
    The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_27667_27108537.1192534134632-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 16 13:24:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74E8E3BED6; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4714BEBC.2040904@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:38:04 +0200 From: van Sinn Reply-To: vansinn@post.cybercity.dk Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: vista References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 13:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Raul Bonell wrote: > hi there! > > i was wondering how our favorite apps like Mobius, > Live, Bidule, MAX/MSP, etc..are doing with Vista. > > has anybody some experience with laptops about > this matter? is it the drivers' unstability problem again? Can't say as I'm a Mac workstation and Linux server guy. The rec.audio.pro newsgroup resently had a few threads about driver and DRM issues on Vista. Just about noone would even consider using Vista until the first service pack hs been released, and many/most were reluctant even so, expecting to stick with XP 'while supply lasts' and then merge to Mac. > the pitty is that most laptop manufacturers are selling > the units with vista intalled & if you change to xp you > loose guaranty. maybe it's possible to re-install vista > and you are again protected. Really? Are you saying loosing _hardware_ warranty for using another M$? Here in DK it was settled by court that customers aren't forced to use a specific OS, hence any hardware is fully warrented according to consumer rights acts. Whether the seller will/can help when using i.e. Linux is another issue ;), but s far as M$'s (i.e. XP) goes, they'll comply.. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 16 16:04:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA3CA3BEDA; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:04:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:04:00 -0600 Message-Id: <200710161604.l9GG40sW009795@minds-eye.org> From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: kevin@minds-eye.org Subject: Re: Drum Machine emergency X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 137.150.33.94 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:04:03 +0000 (UTC) > --My favorite sound, the TR-808 tom "boop" sound, doesn't have as long > of a decay as it used to. Can't you adjust the decay in the settings of the individual sounds? I think that's one of the programming options (I have this box but haven't done much with it, one can only program so many boxes). Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 16 16:17:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DF313BED5; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:17:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 10:17:45 -0600 Message-Id: <200710161617.l9GGHjeo022279@minds-eye.org> From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: kevin@minds-eye.org Subject: Re: Drum Machine emergency X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 137.150.33.94 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 16:17:46 +0000 (UTC) > --My favorite sound, the TR-808 tom "boop" sound, doesn't have as long > of a decay as it used to. Can't you adjust the decay in the settings of the individual sounds? I think that's one of the programming options (I have this box but haven't done much with it, one can only program so many boxes). Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 16 17:01:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E586B3BED3; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=0Y4Qv9ixRniURPwH+heYLfvBSkGFEgXjjMkpPB9ITPQ=; b=RHiogiwwc54wB/1CJQuJ6HUWEtXMth5wjNskkrYsvbwX6gNPXpPrlVkT25Gm3vfot4pUwd88cGdhgJRsgq/oSJyfivzKrTIo2ZuQcHxe/QW9RaRtAbGoC+M5aurKXZ4jVo7tT1Ee1+o3Q8vSMjwaXs1WbXpZaIb8YNJulOGr4Wk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=mTVyRFp5Klby4xKsq9+RPjmM8NLL9j3cXbHcIGSthkM4GByvrb/VHQIZT5+GimGMGjoYl6GOQEzKEdeRDsXeyQs4EGrn2iQV+9T8qrHANMA8LYyb+u7178f8XHS9tYVcAYGByTuNTnpvGZ3ds36WFpjvn1vfCf3wUtj7IIbDFi4= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 19:01:20 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: vista In-Reply-To: <4714BEBC.2040904@post.cybercity.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_29369_10295965.1192554080668" References: <4714BEBC.2040904@post.cybercity.dk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:01:22 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_29369_10295965.1192554080668 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline hey thanks van for your help... 2007/10/16, van Sinn : > > Raul Bonell wrote: > > hi there! > > > > i was wondering how our favorite apps like Mobius, > > Live, Bidule, MAX/MSP, etc..are doing with Vista. > > > > has anybody some experience with laptops about > > this matter? is it the drivers' unstability problem again? > > Can't say as I'm a Mac workstation and Linux server guy. > The rec.audio.pro newsgroup resently had a few threads about driver and > DRM issues on Vista. thx. will check tonight and see what to summarize ... Just about noone would even consider using Vista until the first service > pack hs been released, and many/most were reluctant even so, expecting > to stick with XP 'while supply lasts' and then merge to Mac. just price. > the pitty is that most laptop manufacturers are selling > > the units with vista intalled & if you change to xp you > > loose guaranty. maybe it's possible to re-install vista > > and you are again protected. > > Really? Are you saying loosing _hardware_ warranty for using another M$? > Here in DK it was settled by court that customers aren't forced to use a > specific OS, hence any hardware is fully warrented according to consumer > rights acts. Whether the seller will/can help when using i.e. Linux is > another issue ;), but s far as M$'s (i.e. XP) goes, they'll comply.. oh. remember, this is spain. sunny people everywhere! yes. these guys are telling that to the customers, though maybe this is ilegal here too. cheers, ra=FCl. > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > > --=20 The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_29369_10295965.1192554080668 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline hey thanks van for your help...
    2007/10= /16, van Sinn <vansinn@post= .cybercity.dk>:
    Raul Bonell wrote:
    > hi there!
    >
    > i was wondering how ou= r favorite apps like Mobius,
    > Live, Bidule, MAX/MSP, etc..are doing = with Vista.
    >
    > has anybody some experience with laptops about
    > this matter? is it the drivers' unstability problem again?
    =
    Can't say as I'm a Mac workstation and Linux server guy.
    The= rec.audio.pro newsgroup resently had = a few threads about driver and
    DRM issues on Vista.

    thx. will check tonight and s= ee what to summarize ...
     

    Just about noone would even consider using Vista until the first servicepack hs been released, and many/most were reluctant even so, expecting
    = to stick with XP 'while supply lasts' and then merge to Mac.

    just price.  

    > the pitty is that most laptop manufacturers are se= lling
    > the units with vista intalled & if you change to xp you
    >= ; loose guaranty. maybe it's possible to re-install vista
    > and y= ou are again protected.

    Really? Are you saying loosing _hardware_ wa= rranty for using another M$?
    Here in DK it was settled by court that customers aren't forced to = use a
    specific OS, hence any hardware is fully warrented according to co= nsumer
    rights acts.  Whether the seller will/can help when usi= ng i.e . Linux is
    another issue ;), but s far as M$'s (i.e. XP) goes, they&= #39;ll comply..

    oh. remember, this is spain. sunny peo= ple everywhere!
    yes. these guys are telling that to the customers,
    though maybe this is ilegal here too.

    cheers,
    ra=FCl.
    --
    rgds,
    van = Sinn




    --
    The Playing Orc= hestra: http://www.telefonic= a.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra<= /a> ------=_Part_29369_10295965.1192554080668-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 16 17:15:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 140F33BED3; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:15:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <007701c81018$1225dd30$0201a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <4714BEBC.2040904@post.cybercity.dk> Subject: Re: vista Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:14:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <1Wjcz.A.KqF.UGPFHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 17:15:01 +0000 (UTC) From: "van Sinn" : > >> the pitty is that most laptop manufacturers are selling >> the units with vista intalled & if you change to xp you >> loose guaranty. maybe it's possible to re-install vista >> and you are again protected. I still swear by (and not AT) my HP laptop, gotten one year ago - which came with XP Media Center onboard. In June I was sent a voucher/coupon for a free upgrade to Vista Pro, which I'm going to take advantage of just for the fun of it. > Really? Are you saying loosing _hardware_ warranty for using another M$? > Here in DK it was settled by court that customers aren't forced to use a > specific OS, hence any hardware is fully warrented according to consumer > rights acts. Whether the seller will/can help when using i.e. Linux is > another issue ;), but s far as M$'s (i.e. XP) goes, they'll comply.. Perhaps not as fear-and-loathing infested as one might be persuaded to suspect by the pseudo-fascist EU... A look at HP's UK site shows quite a lot of laptops coming with XP installed. Where's the beef, hm? http://tinyurl.com/yo6hr6 Stephen Goodman * * Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff * http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack * The Loop Of The Week since 1996! * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 16 18:16:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E52C3BED2; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:16:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002301c81020$a912f950$b6b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <380-2200710115232653135@M2W007.mail2web.com> Subject: Re: simple mobius foot control Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:16:22 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01C80FEE.5D8EECA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <6Y9_.A.bjH.6_PFHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:16:26 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C80FEE.5D8EECA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 260? Where did you get that price in USD? Rippoff.com? I got mine for = $180. It's at this price all over the internet. http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MIDIMoose Kris MIDI Moose handicap would be its price, since it's expensive for what it does. no exp pedal. at least here in europe... about 200 euros .. 260-280 USD. R. 2007/10/16, qua@oregon.com : Ah! thanks! Original Message: ----------------- From: Krispen Hartung khartung@cableone.net Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:31:35 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: simple mobius foot control MIDI Moose. Small, battery powered, no programming necessary....just = plug into your computer's MIDI interface, open Mobius, go to the MIDI = assignment=20 section, check MIDI Learn (or whatever Jeff calls it), and start = pressing the buttons you want for each function. I programmed my MIDI Moose = with Mobius for street gigs in about 60 seconds. Kris Hi, What is recommended as basic foot controller for mobius or = other midi-controllable loopers. I assume the FCB, since its so popular. = Are there other smaller-sized ones that are "plug and play" - ie , could = control Mobius with minimal "programming" ? -Qua Original Message: ----------------- From: Raul Bonell raul.bonell@gmail.com Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:12:37 +0200=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ...mobius can be as simple as the simplest looper in world if you just use its basic functions.=20 try it, www.zonemobius.com raul. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - Microsoft=AE Exchange solutions from a leading = provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange -------------------------------------------------------------------- = mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web --=20 The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C80FEE.5D8EECA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    260? Where did you get that price in = USD?=20 Rippoff.com?  I got mine for $180. It's at this price all over the=20 internet.
     
     
    Kris
     
     
    MIDI Moose

    handicap = would be=20 its price,
    since it's expensive for what it does. no exp = pedal.
    at least=20 here in europe... about 200 euros
    .. 260-280 USD.

    R.

    2007/10/16, qua@oregon.com <qua@oregon.com>:
    Ah!  =20 thanks!

    Original Message:
    -----------------
    From: = Krispen=20 Hartung khartung@cableone.net
    Date: = Mon,=20 15 Oct 2007 16:31:35 -0600
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
    Subject:=20 Re: simple mobius foot control


    MIDI Moose. Small, battery = powered, no programming necessary....just plug
    into your = computer's MIDI=20 interface, open Mobius, go to the MIDI assignment
    section, check = MIDI=20 Learn (or whatever Jeff calls it), and start pressing
    the buttons = you=20 want for each function. I programmed my MIDI Moose with
    Mobius = for street=20 gigs in about 60 seconds.

    Kris



    Hi,   = What is=20 recommended as basic foot controller for mobius or=20 other
    midi-controllable loopers.  I assume the FCB, = since its=20 so popular.  Are
    there other smaller-sized ones that = are "plug=20 and play" - ie , could
    control Mobius with minimal "programming" = ?
    -Qua

    Original Message:
    -----------------
    From: = Raul Bonell=20 raul.bonell@gmail.com
    Date: = Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:12:37 +0200
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
    Subject:=20 Re:

    ...mobius can be as simple as the simplest looper
    in = world if=20 you just use its basic functions.

    try it,

    www.zonemobius.com

    raul.


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    Chain=20 Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.comTPO at=20 myspace: http://www.myspace.co= m/theplayingorchestra=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C80FEE.5D8EECA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 16 18:19:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DC103BEDE; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:19:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003601c81021$057ad3c0$b6b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <380-2200710115232653135@M2W007.mail2web.com> <471468AC.9000105@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: simple mobius foot control Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:18:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:19:00 +0000 (UTC) Well, he did ask for something that is basic and with minimal programming necessary. I addressed the actual question he posed. Kris > another handicap (guessing from the available info) > is the lack of functionality. > > A lot of what Mobius can do will be unavailable, or > more awkward to access. > > andy butler > > > > > Raul Bonell wrote: >> MIDI Moose >> >> handicap would be its price, >> since it's expensive for what it does. no exp pedal. >> at least here in europe... about 200 euros >> .. 260-280 USD. >> >> R. >> >> 2007/10/16, qua@oregon.com > >: >> >> Ah! thanks! >> >> Original Message: >> ----------------- >> From: Krispen Hartung khartung@cableone.net >> >> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:31:35 -0600 >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> Subject: Re: simple mobius foot control >> >> >> MIDI Moose. Small, battery powered, no programming necessary....just >> plug >> into your computer's MIDI interface, open Mobius, go to the MIDI >> assignment >> section, check MIDI Learn (or whatever Jeff calls it), and start >> pressing >> the buttons you want for each function. I programmed my MIDI Moose >> with >> Mobius for street gigs in about 60 seconds. >> >> Kris >> >> >> >> Hi, What is recommended as basic foot controller for mobius or >> other >> midi-controllable loopers. I assume the FCB, since its so popular. >> Are >> there other smaller-sized ones that are "plug and play" - ie , could >> control Mobius with minimal "programming" ? >> -Qua >> >> Original Message: >> ----------------- >> From: Raul Bonell raul.bonell@gmail.com >> >> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:12:37 +0200 >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >> Subject: Re: >> >> ...mobius can be as simple as the simplest looper >> in world if you just use its basic functions. >> >> try it, >> >> www.zonemobius.com >> >> raul. >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> mail2web.com - Microsoft® Exchange solutions >> from a leading provider - >> http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> mail2web - Check your email from the web at >> http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo >> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >> TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 16 19:56:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AE4A93BEB8; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 19:56:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=WV4gcqGzM/TXEMz5HJN1iicBLo7x7QsBnzqSLQ7zOjs=; b=DWupepQbL7exSSyCRj2NJdxUw4hyfj7fJkfdIBgGrQwRVpbhz9WWKkWI2yMz6M1Dutew4uPdH5AIMqwzLVehRqykKm0dGaffKHbEIWLovDYlMzG5ynr1lsNv7vHTr3YVkoOBHtmB6m1X92B+1CbhKIOILZr3fOMiWZopohtqZ4Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=fZbKIsYvAOd/dnxBRK/t3j1y2Q24HybSL2qXSpHz1mWfgXqmA6jLs+xyC/22sNCIm9yILccFHtJicTtZnGpGVFev2EfBXvRzmuNvyssPmelFxdBCZ5IJJKoRMbc45WzVBhPL/PMa3PVGnE7PTuyUj+jiU+beETvYhvNhJSRMtDA= Message-ID: <4759e5740710161256h60268cf2v495ed3bb943a06a5@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 15:56:26 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: question regarding windows on mac... i'm stuck... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_48356_14080832.1192564586509" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 19:56:29 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_48356_14080832.1192564586509 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline a question to all you windows mavens... especially the one's who are using windows on a mac partition... I'm trying desperately to investigate mobius at this point... I used boot camp to make a windows partition, had a wonderful time awhile ago for about an hour... now windows needs 'activation' to let me even log on, and it cannot find an internet connection to do so. since i can't get to the control panels to try to fix it, i'm stuck. Can I lean on any of you for some advice here? all best, todd -- http://www.toddreynolds.com |: http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic |: ------------------------------------------------------|: 917.576.6166 todd@toddreynolds.com toddreyn@gmail.com ------=_Part_48356_14080832.1192564586509 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline a question to all you windows mavens... especially the one's who are using windows on a mac partition...

    I'm trying desperately to investigate mobius at this point... 

    I used boot camp to make a windows partition, had a wonderful time awhile ago for about an hour...

    now windows needs 'activation' to let me even log on, and it cannot find an internet connection to do so.

    since i can't get to the control panels to try to fix it, i'm stuck.

    Can I lean on any of you for some advice here?

    all best,

    todd



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    toddreyn@gmail.com ------=_Part_48356_14080832.1192564586509-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 16 20:20:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C80DD3BED9; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:20:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_ebfdf0aa-3d04-4deb-8dd0-682e7c4f58a1_" X-Originating-IP: [151.37.79.115] From: Lorenzo Orlandini To: Subject: RE: simple mobius foot control Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:20:17 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002301c81020$a912f950$b6b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <380-2200710115232653135@M2W007.mail2web.com> <002301c81020$a912f950$b6b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2007 20:20:22.0259 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA860C30:01C81031] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:20:24 +0000 (UTC) --_ebfdf0aa-3d04-4deb-8dd0-682e7c4f58a1_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well actually he is right. That is freaking ripoff, and yet the price is mu= ch higher in Europe. I found one here in Italy for 220euro (USD 311.3) (!!!= !)...Check it out yourself: http://www.mercatinomusicale.com/ann/ann.asp/ID= A_674778/IDV_76/REF_Elenco/tech-21-midi-moose.htm It's unbelievable.=20 I am not sure it is more convenient to buy one on ebay, since it is 180USD = and you have to add shipping (the thing is pretty heavy I suppose) and taxe= s. It'll probably be cheaper but not by much, I believe.=20 It happens all the time with American gear here. The most incredible thing = was the e-bow: it is 140 (USD 198.1) euro in Italy while my girlfriend boug= ht me one in New York City for just 80USD (EUR 56.54).=20 That is why everytime i surf the web and see American sites I start droolin= g. Too bad shipping and taxes spoil the fun most of the times - luckily, no= t always though . :) L. From: khartung@cableone.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: simple mobius foot control Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:16:22 -0600 =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= 260? Where did you get that price in USD? =0A= Rippoff.com? I got mine for $180. It's at this price all over the =0A= internet.=0A= =0A= http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MIDIMoose=0A= =0A= Kris=0A= =0A= =0A= MIDI Moose handicap would be =0A= its price, since it's expensive for what it does. no exp pedal. at least =0A= here in europe... about 200 euros .. 260-280 USD. R. =0A= 2007/10/16, qua@oregon.com :=0A= Ah! =0A= thanks! Original Message: ----------------- From: Krispen =0A= Hartung khartung@cableone.net Date: Mon, =0A= 15 Oct 2007 16:31:35 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: =0A= Re: simple mobius foot control MIDI Moose. Small, battery =0A= powered, no programming necessary....just plug into your computer's MIDI =0A= interface, open Mobius, go to the MIDI assignment=20 section, check MIDI =0A= Learn (or whatever Jeff calls it), and start pressing the buttons you =0A= want for each function. I programmed my MIDI Moose with Mobius for street =0A= gigs in about 60 seconds. Kris Hi, What is =0A= recommended as basic foot controller for mobius or =0A= other midi-controllable loopers. I assume the FCB, since its =0A= so popular. Are there other smaller-sized ones that are "plug =0A= and play" - ie , could=20 control Mobius with minimal "programming" =0A= ? -Qua Original Message: ----------------- From: Raul Bonell =0A= raul.bonell@gmail.com Date: =0A= Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:12:37 +0200=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: =0A= Re: ...mobius can be as simple as the simplest looper in world if =0A= you just use its basic functions.=20 try it, www.zonemobius.com raul. -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - Microsoft=AE Exchange solutions =0A= from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange -------------------------------------------------------------------- =0A= =20 mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web --=20 The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain =0A= Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at =0A= myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra =0A= =0A= _________________________________________________________________ Scarica GRATIS le emoticon della tua squadra del cuore e il calendario di s= erie A! http://www.emoticons-livemessenger.com/pages/msnitcalcio/index.htm= --_ebfdf0aa-3d04-4deb-8dd0-682e7c4f58a1_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Well actually he= is right. That is freaking ripoff, and yet the price is much higher in Eur= ope. I found one here in Italy for 220euro (USD 311.3) (!!!!)...Check it ou= t yourself: http://www.mercatinomusicale.com/ann/ann.asp/IDA_674778/IDV_76/= REF_Elenco/tech-21-midi-moose.htm

    It's unbelievable.
    I am not su= re it is more convenient to buy one on ebay, since it is 180USD and you hav= e to add shipping (the thing is pretty heavy I suppose) and taxes. It'll pr= obably be cheaper but not by much, I believe.

    It happens all the ti= me with American gear here. The most incredible thing was the e-bow: it is = 140 (USD 198.1) euro in Italy while my girlfriend bought me one in New York= City for just 80USD (EUR 56.54).

    That is why everytime i surf the = web and see American sites I start drooling. Too bad shipping and taxes spo= il the fun most of the times - luckily, not always though . :)
    L.

    From: khartung@cableone.n= et
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject: Re: simple mobius= foot control
    Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:16:22 -0600

    =0A= =0A= = =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=
    260? Where did you get that price in U= SD? =0A= Rippoff.com?  I got mine for $180. It's at this price all over the =0A= internet.
    =0A=
     
    =0A= =0A=
     
    =0A=
    Kris
    =0A=
     
    =0A=
    =0A=
     
    MIDI Moose

    handicap wo= uld be =0A= its price,
    since it's expensive for what it does. no exp pedal.
    at = least =0A= here in europe... about 200 euros
    .. 260-280 USD.

    R.

    =0A=
    2007/10/16, qua@oregon.com <qua@orego= n.com>:=0A=
    Ah!   =0A= thanks!

    Original Message:
    -----------------
    From: Krispen = =0A= Hartung khartung@cableone.net<= /a>
    Date: Mon, =0A= 15 Oct 2007 16:31:35 -0600
    To:     Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject: =0A= Re: simple mobius foot control


    MIDI Moose. Small, battery = =0A= powered, no programming necessary....just plug
    into your computer's = MIDI =0A= interface, open Mobius, go to the MIDI assignment
    section, check MI= DI =0A= Learn (or whatever Jeff calls it), and start pressing
    the buttons yo= u =0A= want for each function. I programmed my MIDI Moose with
    Mobius for s= treet =0A= gigs in about 60 seconds.

    Kris



    Hi,   Wh= at is =0A= recommended as basic foot controller for mobius or =0A= other
    midi-controllable loopers.  I assume the FCB, since = its =0A= so popular.  Are
    there other smaller-sized ones that are "= plug =0A= and play" - ie , could
    control Mobius with minimal "programming" = =0A= ?
    -Qua

    Original Message:
    -----------------
    From: Raul B= onell =0A= raul.bonell@gmail.com
    D= ate: =0A= Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:12:37 +0200
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject:= =0A= Re:

    ...mobius can be as simple as the simplest looper
    in worl= d if =0A= you just use its basic functions.

    try it,

    www.zonemobius.com

    rau= l.



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BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/tynego From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 16 21:56:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41F8C3BEE0; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:56:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=9D/aZaZJSEhA/gpZRd8t/feCqiZkDO9FmNJJ+EoF0bE=; b=F7H1OC5UTtrcFVcioKUxJ9z3iulp88o+yq9I8RKjCamiiuzAWidCyWDSwfGroDzSjS0VQRUPM899qjk6xCFsCDBML3OIwlUjLBIiQaHKxyt0pvZN0Hien3FumaPoFYc5kyy0vG9EqMu+0hBsCgOw0w/fL8WH2gnjFFt+5RpQYDE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=eF+77bVoiw9Zp7F6wFTMG1HjEh0HkxL/12AE7tfr6I+zSVTeupPwT2YgH7/+tNnUr74HQfLTWSV8eQ475OaLaaFJkmeOZpKBvNtnvE07aVQwPlxDwlMFjTNI9rLvy9sF3TZ1vve/WYRc/uvbSfSNwtmN3q0qqzIeHxTY2hZ8f6Q= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:56:54 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: simple mobius foot control In-Reply-To: <002301c81020$a912f950$b6b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30857_15203548.1192571814832" References: <380-2200710115232653135@M2W007.mail2web.com> <002301c81020$a912f950$b6b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: <9OwXrC.A.bF.pOTFHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:56:57 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_30857_15203548.1192571814832 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline i simply converted the price at this link http://www.thomann.de/es/tech_21_midi_moose.htm but you can find it in other online shops at similar prices. raul. 2007/10/16, Krispen Hartung : > > 260? Where did you get that price in USD? Rippoff.com? I got mine for > $180. It's at this price all over the internet. > > http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MIDIMoose > > Kris > > > > MIDI Moose > > handicap would be its price, > since it's expensive for what it does. no exp pedal. > at least here in europe... about 200 euros > .. 260-280 USD. > > R. > > 2007/10/16, qua@oregon.com : > > > > Ah! thanks! > > > > Original Message: > > ----------------- > > From: Krispen Hartung khartung@cableone.net > > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:31:35 -0600 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: simple mobius foot control > > > > > > MIDI Moose. Small, battery powered, no programming necessary....just > > plug > > into your computer's MIDI interface, open Mobius, go to the MIDI > > assignment > > section, check MIDI Learn (or whatever Jeff calls it), and start > > pressing > > the buttons you want for each function. I programmed my MIDI Moose with > > Mobius for street gigs in about 60 seconds. > > > > Kris > > > > > > > > Hi, What is recommended as basic foot controller for mobius or other > > midi-controllable loopers. I assume the FCB, since its so popular. Are > > there other smaller-sized ones that are "plug and play" - ie , could > > control Mobius with minimal "programming" ? > > -Qua > > > > Original Message: > > ----------------- > > From: Raul Bonell raul.bonell@gmail.com > > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:12:37 +0200 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: > > > > ...mobius can be as simple as the simplest looper > > in world if you just use its basic functions. > > > > try it, > > > > www.zonemobius.com > > > > raul. > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > mail2web.com - Microsoft(r) Exchange solutions from a leading provider - > > http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > > http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web > > > > > > > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_30857_15203548.1192571814832 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline i simply converted the price at this link

    http://www.thomann.de/es/tech_21_midi_moose.htm

    but you can find it in other online shops at similar prices.

    raul.


    2007/10/16, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net>:
    260? Where did you get that price in USD? Rippoff.com?  I got mine for $180. It's at this price all over the internet.
     
     
    Kris
     
     
    MIDI Moose

    handicap would be its price,
    since it's expensive for what it does. no exp pedal.
    at least here in europe... about 200 euros
    .. 260-280 USD.

    R.

    2007/10/16, qua@oregon.com < qua@oregon.com>:
    Ah!   thanks!

    Original Message:
    -----------------
    From: Krispen Hartung khartung@cableone.net
    Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 16:31:35 -0600
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject: Re: simple mobius foot control


    MIDI Moose. Small, battery powered, no programming necessary....just plug
    into your computer's MIDI interface, open Mobius, go to the MIDI assignment
    section, check MIDI Learn (or whatever Jeff calls it), and start pressing
    the buttons you want for each function. I programmed my MIDI Moose with
    Mobius for street gigs in about 60 seconds.

    Kris



    Hi,   What is recommended as basic foot controller for mobius or other
    midi-controllable loopers.  I assume the FCB, since its so popular.  Are
    there other smaller-sized ones that are "plug and play" - ie , could
    control Mobius with minimal "programming" ?
    -Qua

    Original Message:
    -----------------
    From: Raul Bonell raul.bonell@gmail.com
    Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:12:37 +0200
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject: Re:

    ...mobius can be as simple as the simplest looper
    in world if you just use its basic functions.

    try it,

    www.zonemobius.com

    raul.



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    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_30857_15203548.1192571814832-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 16 22:00:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E22EF3BEDE; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=PNaBE3vMS39lZOuGhtM417M8CJdAE+CGrZwofdk2Qjo=; b=rHV6YL64PJVc1TvIfVaSgkZkSw0D4DckaktZXwn3i/hefkjhw1kDJZULNQbAdfVh1miJ5FNRgaTyppjfmylicI8ZHntiEMfWJmPbwJ+QgbO/tbHcen5lEjJn0Dd2RE06KPL8IcPVWv0rVEqb3JAagOZ1kK4GtryqtDEV/Xb77MM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=qPFogk34vfoJR2zGQ5IGHzqsgyywh8VYbKHqzuBN3oz57CmYUMpwg33r3ZwEgfV6S6PqL4N9SUUQUR2IKFieqIA4hthsA+HTERk8oeqWWgLhy6zTDQhShz19VWThXg551oNzOIIK9W2JXFMWrJ3sNbs4v8izd49nWDlsZsYwtn0= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 00:00:27 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: simple mobius foot control In-Reply-To: <4F6FA2BD-1597-4E31-ABEE-307AFF5C4D06@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30873_30158497.1192572027170" References: <380-2200710115232653135@M2W007.mail2web.com> <002301c81020$a912f950$b6b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <4F6FA2BD-1597-4E31-ABEE-307AFF5C4D06@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:00:29 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_30873_30158497.1192572027170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline mistake her... it's in british pounds, not euros. *129.99 British Pound(s) = 186.648 Euro(s)* ... similar high price. > Here it is for 129.99 euros: > http://www.dv247.com/invt/37005/ > and they have an education site source that is cheaper yet if you can > claim an education exemption. > > > BobC > > > > http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j > http://www.youtube.com/tynego > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_30873_30158497.1192572027170 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline mistake her... it's in british pounds, not euros.
    129.99 British Pound(s) = 186.648 Euro(s)
    ... similar high price.


    Here it is for 129.99 euros:
    http://www.dv247.com/invt/37005/
    and they have an education site source that is cheaper yet if you can
    claim an education exemption.


    BobC



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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 16 22:26:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 147A63BEDE; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:26:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=yi6yfVEt40DRN40CeNA8pkDIj9MfOKoUg8H04tUcAi4=; b=CAXCseGDq94XhrIwjwhtope8jsuJ6vjYw21vb0xLiks1oTV2Reg8xVOrVUpgPpjLgCP3NGQ5zDnDht8yYaX7ebq9HgyMCyfZmQuVziUDylHvG7uVBt3Med7k887B1tIOM5eWzeWV1hLBSwrklUqO/Hxdg/cBmYMH+mQsqBoyeKc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Ci7gPi5WEstp9H/tpWlgq9kZA2ObHXTy+37DC4TeLlg/0lKquDKm4XRcl/RFpa9IwoSQ+qsWkG85+65r8Ekebe8wp80a1UEueCs+a+M1HJJuo80n4jSqsTj//CeeHP2kk2Xax+n7PWDVNdaSakvMwzVPERgjAviHfoo6QicYrnQ= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 00:25:58 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: simple mobius foot control In-Reply-To: <3A21DE51-795A-405B-8376-38B6C72B82A4@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_30993_4006351.1192573559010" References: <380-2200710115232653135@M2W007.mail2web.com> <002301c81020$a912f950$b6b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <4F6FA2BD-1597-4E31-ABEE-307AFF5C4D06@gmail.com> <3A21DE51-795A-405B-8376-38B6C72B82A4@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:26:01 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_30993_4006351.1192573559010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2007/10/17, RP Collier : Gack, Sorry! missed that -- I think the *ex vat* at the endregistered as *euro* in a retinal afterimage:-)here is the education site link fwiwhttp://www.mveducation.com/invt/37005/BobC Better price at the new link... *110.63 British Pound(s) = 158.692 Euro(s)* ... small, quite unique, but more expensive than famous fcb1010. what about this... it seems a bit cheaper, but no much http://www.thomann.de/es/roland_gfc50_midi_controller.htm go to sleep guys... 0:25 here.... z ZZ z zZ z -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_30993_4006351.1192573559010 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

    2007/10/17, RP Collier <skeptikalist@gmail.com>:  Gack, Sorry! missed that -- I think the *ex vat* at the endregistered as *euro* in a retinal afterimage:-)here is the education site link fwiwhttp://www.mveducation.com/invt/37005/BobC


    Better price at the new link...
    110.63 British Pound(s) = 158.692 Euro(s)

    ... small, quite unique, but more expensive than famous fcb1010.

    what about this... it seems a bit cheaper, but no much

    http://www.thomann.de/es/roland_gfc50_midi_controller.htm

    go to sleep guys... 0:25 here.... z ZZ z   zZ    z

    --
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    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_30993_4006351.1192573559010-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 16 23:18:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 457833BEDD; Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:18:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_89de753f-822b-4d6e-954f-801d92a253cc_" X-Originating-IP: [151.37.79.115] From: Lorenzo Orlandini To: Subject: RE: simple mobius foot control Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 01:16:54 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4F6FA2BD-1597-4E31-ABEE-307AFF5C4D06@gmail.com> References: <380-2200710115232653135@M2W007.mail2web.com> <002301c81020$a912f950$b6b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <4F6FA2BD-1597-4E31-ABEE-307AFF5C4D06@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2007 23:17:01.0774 (UTC) FILETIME=[A853AEE0:01C8104A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:18:32 +0000 (UTC) --_89de753f-822b-4d6e-954f-801d92a253cc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Those are Great British pounds, so it's about 185 euro, plus shipping.=20 I think I will stick with my FCB1010 :) > From: skeptikalist@gmail.com > Subject: Re: simple mobius foot control > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:41:35 -0700 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 >=20 > On Oct 16, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Lorenzo Orlandini wrote: >=20 > > I found one here in Italy for 220euro (USD 311.3) >=20 >=20 > Here it is for 129.99 euros: > http://www.dv247.com/invt/37005/ > and they have an education site source that is cheaper yet if you can =20 > claim an education exemption. >=20 >=20 > BobC >=20 >=20 >=20 > http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j > http://www.youtube.com/tynego >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Crea i tuoi biglietti da visita con Windows Live Messenger! http://www.messenger.it/biglietti_da_visita.html= --_89de753f-822b-4d6e-954f-801d92a253cc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Those are Great = British pounds, so it's about 185 euro, plus shipping.

    I think I wi= ll stick with my FCB1010 :)



    &g= t; From: skeptikalist@gmail.com
    > Subject: Re: simple mobius foot con= trol
    > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:41:35 -0700
    > To: Loopers-Deli= ght@loopers-delight.com
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    > On Oct 16, 2007, at 1:20 = PM, Lorenzo Orlandini wrote:
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    > > I found one here in Ital= y for 220euro (USD 311.3)
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    > Here it is for 129.99 e= uros:
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    ----------MB_8C9DE7D4A08F1A6_544_104DC_webmail-de20.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 03:37:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F3063BED2; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:37:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:37:02 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=qPN0b5OZbncyf0P1gmBFoUjeR3rHWd6gFT4PD6VUF2i/8q5DW86ORUT+uiHHwp4hnzG4y9yGz/lxyzVatDWcFIaqHbBsAe/fXDIPSfOrUsCwQuZUCF/EvTBHRG9dIDKBPeTpYjRRAAfrpKR3kiCK1F8KennwWhTLbw4zN56j6dQ=; X-YMail-OSG: HYYjphwVM1niH0nWfhToeszu_xPjczkU3YnYCBwPzXOT9tUX3p2dwnqI4Picmr1CgTeAa1j_dlYIJAbjomuq3bTyMRohPFsCWW7sL9M0yEoi.XAuxE6K4ecZ08kwWQ-- Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:30:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Subject: Other Loop Festivals? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <788588.31290.qm@web34513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <4BgIUD.A.WvD.eNYFHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:37:02 +0000 (UTC) I'm somewhat new to the list...and some would say to looping as well. Forgive my ignorance in case this has been discussed, but... I know there is a loop fest in Cali this week, but are there any closer to Ohio? I'd love to perform live more often, but there is a distinct lack of loop friendly venues were I currently reside. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 03:51:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BEF8D3BECF; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:51:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <89659a1053046933922011b48b4f34cf@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: OT/FS; MORE GEAR LIQUIDATIONS: ALESIS AIR SYNTH AND AIR FX COMBO PACKAGE (NO RESERVE) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:51:07 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 03:51:14 +0000 (UTC) Hi all! Sorry to intrude again with another commercial message. But I'll make it brief. Little by little I am parting out my hardware set up and selling it off on Ebay. A couple more little toys (non-looping, but fun) that I've played with at various loop fests and other gigs. Ebay link: Cheers, Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 04:55:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05A233BEDA; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:55:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1671 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:55:02 UTC Message-ID: <47159DC4.9060309@imt.net> Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:29:40 -0700 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT/FS; MORE GEAR LIQUIDATIONS: ALESIS AIR SYNTH AND AIR FX COMBO PACKAGE (NO RESERVE) References: <89659a1053046933922011b48b4f34cf@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <89659a1053046933922011b48b4f34cf@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 04:55:02 +0000 (UTC) page not responding for whatever reason. -Bob tEd ® KiLLiAn wrote: > Hi all! > > Sorry to intrude again with another commercial message. > > But I'll make it brief. > > Little by little I am parting out my hardware set up and selling it > off on Ebay. > > A couple more little toys (non-looping, but fun) that I've played > with at various loop fests and other gigs. > > Ebay link: > > RESERVE_W0QQitemZ330176966190QQihZ014QQcategoryZ38071QQssPageNameZWDVWQQ > rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem> > > Cheers, > > Ted > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 05:08:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2FFD3BECF; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 05:08:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <47159DC4.9060309@imt.net> References: <89659a1053046933922011b48b4f34cf@charter.net> <47159DC4.9060309@imt.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: OT/FS; MORE GEAR LIQUIDATIONS: ALESIS AIR SYNTH / tinyurl.com Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:08:31 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 05:08:34 +0000 (UTC) Worked fine for me. But however, for really long URLs, this service below is great! Definitely REVcommended. Give it a try. Free too, but donations are =20 encouraged, but not required. However, it is always nice to help out those who graciously help out =20 others, http://tinyurl.com/ -Rev. Fever On Oct 16, 2007, at 10:29 PM, Bob Weigel wrote: > page not responding for whatever reason. -Bob > > tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > >> Hi all! >> >> Sorry to intrude again with another commercial message. >> >> But I'll make it brief. >> >> Little by little I am parting out my hardware set up and selling =20 >> it off on Ebay. >> >> A couple more little toys (non-looping, but fun) that I've played =20 >> with at various loop fests and other gigs. >> >> Ebay link: >> >> > RESERVE_W0QQitemZ330176966190QQihZ014QQcategoryZ38071QQssPageNameZWDV=20= >> WQQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Ted >> >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 05:09:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31D6B3BEDA; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 05:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: <89659a1053046933922011b48b4f34cf@charter.net> <47159DC4.9060309@imt.net> In-Reply-To: <47159DC4.9060309@imt.net> Subject: RE: OT/FS; MORE GEAR LIQUIDATIONS: ALESIS AIR SYNTH AND AIR FX COMBO PACKAGE (NO RESERVE) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 22:09:25 -0700 Message-ID: <002c01c8107b$e315aed0$a9410c70$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgQezn9cjA45Mk3TXapOX2zDNZ3XQAAJVZA Content-Language: en-us X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: D9b4302860000175a.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: <_FsPX.A.xI.MkZFHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 05:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Be sure to paste in the full URL (the line gets broken when the text wraps) -Qua -----Original Message----- From: Bob Weigel [mailto:sounddoctorin@imt.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:30 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT/FS; MORE GEAR LIQUIDATIONS: ALESIS AIR SYNTH AND AIR FX COMBO PACKAGE (NO RESERVE) page not responding for whatever reason. -Bob tEd R KiLLiAn wrote: > Hi all! > > Sorry to intrude again with another commercial message. > > But I'll make it brief. > > Little by little I am parting out my hardware set up and selling it > off on Ebay. > > A couple more little toys (non-looping, but fun) that I've played > with at various loop fests and other gigs. > > Ebay link: > > RESERVE_W0QQitemZ330176966190QQihZ014QQcategoryZ38071QQssPageNameZWDVWQQ > rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem> > > Cheers, > > Ted > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 06:46:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 909343BEC2; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:46:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,287,1188792000"; d="scan'208";a="70023254" X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAA5MFUdKiMlE/2dsb2JhbAA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,287,1188792000"; d="scan'208";a="144699297" Message-ID: <004b01c81089$865bb460$44c9884a@preferre4ca07a> From: "Mark Smart" To: References: <89659a1053046933922011b48b4f34cf@charter.net> <47159DC4.9060309@imt.net> Subject: Re: OT/FS; MORE GEAR LIQUIDATIONS: ALESIS AIR SYNTH / tinyurl.com Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 01:47:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:46:24 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, TinyURL is great! Here, I made a TinyURL link to that Ebay page: http://tinyurl.com/yrqk52 You just go to the TinyURL page, paste in your long URL, and it creates a "tiny" URL link for it. After that, anyone clicking on that TinyURL link will be sent to the page with the long URL. Very cool. They must just leave these links active because they work for months after you create them. Mark Smart http://www.marksmart.net From service@intl.paypal.com Wed Oct 17 07:01:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 26795 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:01:05 UTC Received: from ajadhesives.com (mail.ajadhesives.com [12.197.24.150]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55353BEA2 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([66.83.142.197]) by ajadhesives.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 16 Oct 2007 11:59:26 -0500 Reply-To: From: "service@intl.paypal.com" Subject: Inactive users Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 12:22:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2007 16:59:27.0046 (UTC) FILETIME=[E90E8660:01C81015] To: undisclosed-recipients:;




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    https://www.paypal.com/default.aspx?refereridentUpdatePROFILE From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 07:28:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E696F3BECA; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:28:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: OT/FS; MORE GEAR LIQUIDATIONS: ALESIS AIR SYNTH AND AIR FX COMBO PACKAGE (NO RESERVE) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:28:41 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000f01c8108f$57a72a40$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <89659a1053046933922011b48b4f34cf@charter.net> Thread-Index: AcgQcPc2LWT24XfSQtW0AnJMCk7n4QAHgDzQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OIJYlRRqCXc= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:28:14 +0000 (UTC) Ted said: > Little by little I am parting out my hardware set up and > selling it off on Ebay. Can I ask: Why that step? And what will your new setup look like? Please don't tell me you're going to play with a shiny macbook running MAX/MSP or something like all the young'uns who were swarming 'round your impressive rack at y2k6loopfest... Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 08:02:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BD8A3BECA; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:02:15 +0200 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20071008190111.02c0b798@mail.onemodelplace.com> Message-ID: <20071017080215.277950@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5.2.1.1.0.20071008014920.02fb4270@mail.onemodelplace.com> <20071005080829.92040@gmx.net> <5.2.1.1.0.20071008014920.02fb4270@mail.onemodelplace.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20071008190111.02c0b798@mail.onemodelplace.com> Subject: Re: Following Acoustic Musicians with Looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/y/eMNnWPyYRJwIqOPQDl5djLSvvZyS4PD6q2ei9 Tylp+Kp9GunxUiROYmaDqNp0tz2DD1i/e7RQ== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: sPkgc9gmRkkNe91hiGVqfN9udWkvKJMn Resent-Message-ID: <2Gr3FC.A.pqH.JGcFHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks thanks very much for your advice. @Cara: > I tend to make it granular and drop in new bits of audio rhythmically so I can still sort of keep the old loop but add a new rhythm Dropping in new bits of audio (with previous rough tempo adjustment) seems a very promising approach for "quick fix". This would help me to keep the ambience sound while at the same time setting a different rhythmic center. Best regards Buzap -- GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS. Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 08:50:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B1EF3BECA; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:50:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 617900534-mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.202.129 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4HANJpFUdPQsqB/2dsb2JhbACCKaJ8 Message-ID: <4715CCFA.701@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:51:06 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new music posted References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:50:46 +0000 (UTC) Os wrote: > Hi, > > just updated our podcast after a long break with our first attempt at > playing with a drummer. I think it worked out - would love to hear > some opinions. > > See here: http://www.collective.co.uk/darkroom/podcast.html > > > cheers, > os. > hi Os Yes, that works well. ...but hang on a minute, what happened to the track with the drum beat in it? Look forward to hearing this set up at Norwich Loopfest. ...and as you asked for opinions (I wouldn't otherwise) How about giving the drums a bit more breathing space, or even letting them set the pace? 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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 14:42:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85BF03BEB5; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:42:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1663 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:42:15 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=jN/q3WwK/OYNC81hUxh6H069WBWw2Mhcvw1mC67ZmIU=; b=oO7VjTxoVNuTelg3KDoYoLy4vbzcUDPObI8a1Da4NcbypwPECLCOovwSbYY2+yN7a8RINbRRJmADAoZdIdsPFy+vGmm9UaUE/EtuImtBDGUUo/gBrfopYNH9vk+39s1vo8BlKxsKfSvGiJoS4fpWDvMbPSkzdYmG9KvT/ivvRlc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=baIpkwlaLgxYEXz0zjyiPfq1SaE1Apsl3sFeo2HseTUMGgmFTKH6tcCtVWcce2ban3+rKPhEw9e5RzH0yP8hUwKUczkCCAAyCjkMRVKapTu3eItLxNOitEZ7M8QSM7QX90VEBMWZlOXebWVzbcRBvgqh3t0MV6Wm/FSx3TJ24+M= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 07:14:30 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Other Loop Festivals? In-Reply-To: <788588.31290.qm@web34513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_45922_7341980.1192630471007" References: <788588.31290.qm@web34513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 14:42:16 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_45922_7341980.1192630471007 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The California Loopfest is fairly unique among music festivals for its loop-centric orientation. I'm unaware of another "loop festival" near Ohio. However, consider that it's not that venues in your area aren't loop friendly, but rather that they aren't open to the type of music you wish to play which happens to involve looping. TH On 10/16/07, mesquamacus@yahoo.com wrote: > > > I know there is a loop fest in Cali this week, but are > there any closer to Ohio? I'd love to perform live > more often, but there is a distinct lack of loop > friendly venues were I currently reside. > > > ------=_Part_45922_7341980.1192630471007 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The California Loopfest is fairly unique among music festivals for its loop-centric orientation.  I'm unaware of another "loop festival" near Ohio. 

    However, consider that it's not that venues in your area aren't loop friendly, but rather that they aren't open to the type of music you wish to play which happens to involve looping.

    TH

    On 10/16/07, mesquamacus@yahoo.com <mesquamacus@yahoo.com > wrote:

    I know there is a loop fest in Cali this week, but are
    there any closer to Ohio?  I'd love to perform live
    more often, but there is a distinct lack of loop
    friendly venues were I currently reside.



    ------=_Part_45922_7341980.1192630471007-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 15:18:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56B8E3BED0; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:18:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <000f01c8108f$57a72a40$1001a8c0@succubus> References: <000f01c8108f$57a72a40$1001a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: OT/FS; MORE GEAR LIQUIDATIONS: ALESIS AIR SYNTH AND AIR FX COMBO PACKAGE (NO RESERVE) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 08:18:17 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:18:23 +0000 (UTC) Rainer, Step? I have been dreaming of converting my rack of gear to something that could reside (mostly) in software in a laptop for over a dozen years. Back in the days when I still worked for Seymour Duncan ('93 -'97) I met with some software engineers (on my own time and as my own idea) to try to actually develop this concept. After a month or two or working on it, it was determined that consumer-level computers were quite not fast enough or powerful enough yet and the project was abandoned. I did not give up on the IDEA though. I've only been waiting 'til something was developed that could do what I wanted . . . the way I wanted. Yes, the MAX/MSP in a shiny MacBook is the way I will eventually go. I don't want to buy an off-the-shelf completed solution. I want to be able to creatively configure and re-configure every little bit of it. MAX/MSP seems to let me do this. That's why the NI "Guitar Rig" and other products of that type do not interest me. I do not need a GUI that looks like stomp-boxes and rack gear to make me feel comfortable. I make my living with computers. And, I have been acquainted with MAX for a long time. When they added the MSP part to it I became mildly interested. But then, as it happens, my best pal Jeff Kaiser (who was friends with some folks at Cycling 74) got started using it himself. Jeff and I go back to '87 as friends and musical collaborators. My many recent conversations with him (and now Krispen Hartung) have shown me how what I want to do can be done. I will probably have some sort of hybrid system for a while. My guitar will be connected into still quite a bit of hardware . . . and then into the computer and MAX/MSP. But it will all be much smaller. You may laugh at what finally motivated me, two, maybe three things really: 1) As I have often said before, I am too old to schlepp all that gear around any more - and I am finding myself doing it less and less and not enjoying it much at all. 2) My faithful little mini-van "gig" car is dying and I can no longer haul my pile of gear around dependably more than just a few miles at a time. 3) I have a new car (a PT Cruiser) and I want my new setup (whatever it is) to fit in THAT, so it's got to be small, light and convenient. Having my "mountain of gear" was never about trying to impress anybody with it's size. I always felt slightly insulted when people made more comments about that than about my music. It's just what it took to make the music I wanted to play. It was a colossal burden to be honest. I have the doctor (and surgery) bills to prove it. Jeff and Kris have now shown me that it can be done - proved it is possible by doing it themselves. Circumstances have now made a change necessary for me. Now's the time. I have stepped out of performing at Y2K this year for the very reason. I have too much gear to haul and no way to haul it and I am too doggone tired to keep hauling it anyway. I am just going to be an attendee this year . . . and enjoy myself for the first time in ages. Cheers, Ted On Oct 17, 2007, at 12:28 AM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > Ted said: > >> Little by little I am parting out my hardware set up and >> selling it off on Ebay. > > Can I ask: > Why that step? And what will your new setup look like? Please don't > tell me > you're going to play with a shiny macbook running MAX/MSP or something > like > all the young'uns who were swarming 'round your impressive rack at > y2k6loopfest... > > Rainer > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 16:09:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 020973BED3; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:09:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: <000f01c8108f$57a72a40$1001a8c0@succubus> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: OT/FS; MORE GEAR LIQUIDATIONS: ALESIS AIR SYNTH AND AIR FX COMBO PACKAGE (NO RESERVE) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:09:34 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c810d8$1c0c07f0$542417d0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgQ0k/qkH0OpiWbToydcFkNvDZ0ngABXXAw Content-Language: en-us X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: D35fb02c60000e386.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:09:37 +0000 (UTC) Hi Ted, Yes the computers are now powerful enough to be really practice. I'm eventually planning on taking a similar approach myself. Then the amps/cabs become the remaining heavy lifting items. Glad there are folks in this community that are generous enough to help us up the (rather steep) learning curves. See you at Y2K7 ! -Qua -----Original Message----- From: tEd R KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:18 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT/FS; MORE GEAR LIQUIDATIONS: ALESIS AIR SYNTH AND AIR FX COMBO PACKAGE (NO RESERVE) Rainer, Step? I have been dreaming of converting my rack of gear to something that could reside (mostly) in software in a laptop for over a dozen years. Back in the days when I still worked for Seymour Duncan ('93 -'97) I met with some software engineers (on my own time and as my own idea) to try to actually develop this concept. After a month or two or working on it, it was determined that consumer-level computers were quite not fast enough or powerful enough yet and the project was abandoned. I did not give up on the IDEA though. I've only been waiting 'til something was developed that could do what I wanted . . . the way I wanted. Yes, the MAX/MSP in a shiny MacBook is the way I will eventually go. I don't want to buy an off-the-shelf completed solution. I want to be able to creatively configure and re-configure every little bit of it. MAX/MSP seems to let me do this. That's why the NI "Guitar Rig" and other products of that type do not interest me. I do not need a GUI that looks like stomp-boxes and rack gear to make me feel comfortable. I make my living with computers. And, I have been acquainted with MAX for a long time. When they added the MSP part to it I became mildly interested. But then, as it happens, my best pal Jeff Kaiser (who was friends with some folks at Cycling 74) got started using it himself. Jeff and I go back to '87 as friends and musical collaborators. My many recent conversations with him (and now Krispen Hartung) have shown me how what I want to do can be done. I will probably have some sort of hybrid system for a while. My guitar will be connected into still quite a bit of hardware . . . and then into the computer and MAX/MSP. But it will all be much smaller. You may laugh at what finally motivated me, two, maybe three things really: 1) As I have often said before, I am too old to schlepp all that gear around any more - and I am finding myself doing it less and less and not enjoying it much at all. 2) My faithful little mini-van "gig" car is dying and I can no longer haul my pile of gear around dependably more than just a few miles at a time. 3) I have a new car (a PT Cruiser) and I want my new setup (whatever it is) to fit in THAT, so it's got to be small, light and convenient. Having my "mountain of gear" was never about trying to impress anybody with it's size. I always felt slightly insulted when people made more comments about that than about my music. It's just what it took to make the music I wanted to play. It was a colossal burden to be honest. I have the doctor (and surgery) bills to prove it. Jeff and Kris have now shown me that it can be done - proved it is possible by doing it themselves. Circumstances have now made a change necessary for me. Now's the time. I have stepped out of performing at Y2K this year for the very reason. I have too much gear to haul and no way to haul it and I am too doggone tired to keep hauling it anyway. I am just going to be an attendee this year . . . and enjoy myself for the first time in ages. Cheers, Ted On Oct 17, 2007, at 12:28 AM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > Ted said: > >> Little by little I am parting out my hardware set up and >> selling it off on Ebay. > > Can I ask: > Why that step? And what will your new setup look like? Please don't > tell me > you're going to play with a shiny macbook running MAX/MSP or something > like > all the young'uns who were swarming 'round your impressive rack at > y2k6loopfest... > > Rainer > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 19:04:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18EC23BEC5; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:04:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <000001c810d8$1c0c07f0$542417d0$@com> References: <000f01c8108f$57a72a40$1001a8c0@succubus> <000001c810d8$1c0c07f0$542417d0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: OT/FS; MORE GEAR LIQUIDATIONS: ALESIS AIR SYNTH AND AIR FX COMBO PACKAGE (NO RESERVE) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:04:37 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:04:44 +0000 (UTC) Qua, I am even getting rid of the amps and cabs too - in favor of some smaller high-quality powered personal monitors. I'm getting used to playing through the PA in most cases. I've got four 1x12 (Seymour) Duncan Research guitar cabs that I'll be selling off (or trying to) in the coming weeks. Along with them I'll be selling a number of other gadgets and gizmos including (but not limited to): * SKB 16-space shock-mount rack with casters * Art SGX 2000 Express in a 2-space ProTec rack-bag and X15 Ultrafoot controller * Emu Proteus 2 Orchestral * Emu Proteus 3 World * ART SLA-1 power amp * Aphex Aural Exciter 104 C with "Big Bottom" * 2 Boss RPS-10 pitch-shifter delays * 3 Alesis Nanoverbs * Roland M-120 12-channel mixer * SKB PS-100 pedalboard with 3-rack spaces * Roland/Boss Sp-303 Sampler * Danelectro Hodad baritone guitar with GK-2a hex pickup and tweed gigbag. Beyond that, possibly a pair Lexicon Vortexes, an EDP or two and a pair of Alesis Akiras plus my old faithful Roland GR-1 guitar synth. In the end, it may all have to go. Im holding on to that last batch of pieces 'til the very last - to see if this whole software thing REALLY works out as powerfully for me as I hope. Sometimes it's good to have a backup plan. I'm just doing it a little bit at a time 'cause I'm lazy (and maybe over-cautious). My planned FX setup to replace all of this is still in a state of flux. My ideas change on a week by week basis. The next time I play at one of these things people will notice the lesser amount of gear. However, I'll still have quite a bit of it left. I've got small pedals galore and combo amps and stuff that folks here never see. The main thing is, my looping rig has to be more portable and light-weight. My back, knees, ankles, arms, heart, and my old automobile will not take it any more. Cheers, Ted On Oct 17, 2007, at 9:09 AM, Qua Veda wrote: > Hi Ted, > Yes the computers are now powerful enough to be really practice. I'm > eventually planning on taking a similar approach myself. Then the > amps/cabs become the remaining heavy lifting items. Glad there are > folks > in this community that are generous enough to help us up the (rather > steep) > learning curves. 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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 20:54:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98C733BEB9; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:54:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <02d701c81100$30893630$5901a8c0@bobdell> Reply-To: "Bob Amstadt" From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <000f01c8108f$57a72a40$1001a8c0@succubus> <000001c810d8$1c0c07f0$542417d0$@com> Subject: Rick Walker is an evil genius Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 13:56:25 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 20:54:56 +0000 (UTC) Before I get in trouble for this post, I love Rick. He is one of the finest people I know. However, he is clearly an evil genius because he has taken the most technology laden group of musicians and has forced them to set up and tear down in record time. This process is almost as entertaining as the performances themselves. :-) Seriously though, I am so looking forward to this weekend. This is an absolutely amazing event. Rick and his crew deserve our deepest thanks. Bob Amstadt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 21:39:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99DAE3BEC2; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 116064 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:39:12 UTC Message-ID: <47168237.4090506@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:44:23 +0200 From: van Sinn Reply-To: vansinn@post.cybercity.dk Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT/FS; MORE GEAR LIQUIDATIONS: ALESIS AIR SYNTH AND AIR FX COMBO PACKAGE (NO RESERVE) References: <000f01c8108f$57a72a40$1001a8c0@succubus> <000001c810d8$1c0c07f0$542417d0$@com> In-Reply-To: <000001c810d8$1c0c07f0$542417d0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:39:12 +0000 (UTC) Qua Veda wrote: > Then the amps/cabs become the remaining heavy lifting items... Frank's speaker emulator survey: http://www.franknitsch.com/speaker-sims/ and/or ADA MicroAmp and Ampulator: http://www.adadepot.com/adagear/subgear/cabsims.htm might be helpful if you plan on going DI. YMMV, of cause.. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 22:26:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FED13BEB8; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:26:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: <000f01c8108f$57a72a40$1001a8c0@succubus> <000001c810d8$1c0c07f0$542417d0$@com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: OT/FS; MORE GEAR LIQUIDATIONS: ALESIS AIR SYNTH AND AIR FX COMBO PACKAGE (NO RESERVE) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:26:24 -0700 Message-ID: <001301c8110c$c0906f30$41b14d90$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgQ8gkMm35cF86oS1+TRNBJTiPDngAGoqvg Content-Language: en-us X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: D8e4d02c60000ba94.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:26:33 +0000 (UTC) Hi Ted, I'm curious about the personal monitors you are considering. Do you mean kick-back stage monitors? Or small Mackie-style powered spkrs? Other? -Qua -----Original Message----- From: tEd R KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:05 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT/FS; MORE GEAR LIQUIDATIONS: ALESIS AIR SYNTH AND AIR FX COMBO PACKAGE (NO RESERVE) Qua, I am even getting rid of the amps and cabs too - in favor of some smaller high-quality powered personal monitors. I'm getting used to playing through the PA in most cases. I've got four 1x12 (Seymour) Duncan Research guitar cabs that I'll be selling off (or trying to) in the coming weeks. Along with them I'll be selling a number of other gadgets and gizmos including (but not limited to): * SKB 16-space shock-mount rack with casters * Art SGX 2000 Express in a 2-space ProTec rack-bag and X15 Ultrafoot controller * Emu Proteus 2 Orchestral * Emu Proteus 3 World * ART SLA-1 power amp * Aphex Aural Exciter 104 C with "Big Bottom" * 2 Boss RPS-10 pitch-shifter delays * 3 Alesis Nanoverbs * Roland M-120 12-channel mixer * SKB PS-100 pedalboard with 3-rack spaces * Roland/Boss Sp-303 Sampler * Danelectro Hodad baritone guitar with GK-2a hex pickup and tweed gigbag. Beyond that, possibly a pair Lexicon Vortexes, an EDP or two and a pair of Alesis Akiras plus my old faithful Roland GR-1 guitar synth. In the end, it may all have to go. Im holding on to that last batch of pieces 'til the very last - to see if this whole software thing REALLY works out as powerfully for me as I hope. Sometimes it's good to have a backup plan. I'm just doing it a little bit at a time 'cause I'm lazy (and maybe over-cautious). My planned FX setup to replace all of this is still in a state of flux. My ideas change on a week by week basis. The next time I play at one of these things people will notice the lesser amount of gear. However, I'll still have quite a bit of it left. I've got small pedals galore and combo amps and stuff that folks here never see. The main thing is, my looping rig has to be more portable and light-weight. My back, knees, ankles, arms, heart, and my old automobile will not take it any more. Cheers, Ted On Oct 17, 2007, at 9:09 AM, Qua Veda wrote: > Hi Ted, > Yes the computers are now powerful enough to be really practice. I'm > eventually planning on taking a similar approach myself. Then the > amps/cabs become the remaining heavy lifting items. Glad there are > folks > in this community that are generous enough to help us up the (rather > steep) > learning curves. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 22:33:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D19223BEB8; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1579 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:33:13 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Ktat8dzs+hvoQZ1tudAc0j3798CksLDyUbi/B6XQWhiE/IGo7K4C3AisRXR4SbwA; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <2354233.1192658809835.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:06:49 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: loopers-delight@loopersdelight.com Subject: Re: ADA simulators Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48f2eb8e1db96b142bae5ae28e7ab9979399f37241381ec17c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:33:13 +0000 (UTC) i got one o' those ampulators and they ARe the bomb! takes a line level and goes right to p.a. nothing-i mean NOTHING sounds or feels like playing into a great tube amp and a good spkr cab-BUT this ada thangg is bold and responsive in a very big amp way... tums upp says stan >Qua Veda wrote: >> Then the amps/cabs become the remaining heavy lifting items... > >Frank's speaker emulator survey: > http://www.franknitsch.com/speaker-sims/ > >and/or ADA MicroAmp and Ampulator: > http://www.adadepot.com/adagear/subgear/cabsims.htm >might be helpful if you plan on going DI. YMMV, of cause.. > >-- >rgds, >van Sinn > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 17 22:34:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E6033BEB5; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:34:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=oUaqOzlx1gOHM5/UW7KN3ve+AJxi9m6SIDM5iWIbJYBEW1f9fyX2DGZaa3azlevTvVSCsC6JnxVuPZDlzbh4H7ukilL0X+kUFtTkJ8jY890qMEjUwppoBBD94LdrcsSI4KfsiOCL2Y/3e4IXuAK13FhBN6fRvzBVXkqCH0q6la0=; X-YMail-OSG: wqvJcXkVM1klRE7tYIYu7F3PpDw2c5yhMMadG89t5x2x0.8gNy5v.50Ivm3mF8dRekaTEZu0OhPXI284cDfJsnpnTt0Gtrz82CM8FuhUp.H13bGcWtY- Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:34:24 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Subject: RE: OT/FS; MORE GEAR LIQUIDATIONS: ALESIS AIR SYNTH AND AIR FX COMBO PACKAGE (NO RESERVE) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <001301c8110c$c0906f30$41b14d90$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <465101.54365.qm@web32702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <4l_WIC.A.LRG.x3oFHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 22:34:26 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, I am interested in the proteus modules, depending on price. thanx rig --- Qua Veda wrote: > Hi Ted, > I'm curious about the personal monitors you are > considering. Do you mean > kick-back stage monitors? Or small Mackie-style > powered spkrs? Other? > > -Qua > > -----Original Message----- > From: tEd R KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net] > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 12:05 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: OT/FS; MORE GEAR LIQUIDATIONS: ALESIS > AIR SYNTH AND AIR FX > COMBO PACKAGE (NO RESERVE) > > Qua, > > I am even getting rid of the amps and cabs too - in > favor of some > smaller high-quality powered personal monitors. > > I'm getting used to playing through the PA in most > cases. > > I've got four 1x12 (Seymour) Duncan Research guitar > cabs that I'll be > selling off (or trying to) in the coming weeks. > > Along with them I'll be selling a number of other > gadgets and gizmos > including (but not limited to): > > * SKB 16-space shock-mount rack with casters > * Art SGX 2000 Express in a 2-space ProTec rack-bag > and X15 Ultrafoot > controller > * Emu Proteus 2 Orchestral > * Emu Proteus 3 World > * ART SLA-1 power amp > * Aphex Aural Exciter 104 C with "Big Bottom" > * 2 Boss RPS-10 pitch-shifter delays > * 3 Alesis Nanoverbs > * Roland M-120 12-channel mixer > * SKB PS-100 pedalboard with 3-rack spaces > * Roland/Boss Sp-303 Sampler > * Danelectro Hodad baritone guitar with GK-2a hex > pickup and tweed > gigbag. > > Beyond that, possibly a pair Lexicon Vortexes, an > EDP or two and a pair > of Alesis Akiras plus my old faithful Roland GR-1 > guitar synth. > > In the end, it may all have to go. > > Im holding on to that last batch of pieces 'til the > very last - to see > if this whole software thing REALLY works out as > powerfully for me as I > hope. > > Sometimes it's good to have a backup plan. > > I'm just doing it a little bit at a time 'cause I'm > lazy (and maybe > over-cautious). > > My planned FX setup to replace all of this is still > in a state of flux. > > My ideas change on a week by week basis. > > The next time I play at one of these things people > will notice the > lesser amount of gear. > > However, I'll still have quite a bit of it left. > > I've got small pedals galore and combo amps and > stuff that folks here > never see. > > The main thing is, my looping rig has to be more > portable and > light-weight. > > My back, knees, ankles, arms, heart, and my old > automobile will not > take it any more. > > Cheers, > > Ted > > On Oct 17, 2007, at 9:09 AM, Qua Veda wrote: > > > Hi Ted, > > Yes the computers are now powerful enough to be > really practice. I'm > > eventually planning on taking a similar approach > myself. Then the > > amps/cabs become the remaining heavy lifting > items. Glad there are > > folks > > in this community that are generous enough to help > us up the (rather > > steep) > > learning curves. > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 00:36:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3004F3BEB6; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_f00267ad-0682-43aa-bfe0-447f2ac4d42a_" X-Originating-IP: [151.38.77.28] From: Lorenzo Orlandini To: Subject: RE: OT/FS; MORE GEAR LIQUIDATIONS: ALESIS AIR SYNTH AND AIR FX COMBO PACKAGE (NO RESERVE) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:36:37 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <000f01c8108f$57a72a40$1001a8c0@succubus> <000001c810d8$1c0c07f0$542417d0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Oct 2007 00:36:37.0579 (UTC) FILETIME=[F15771B0:01C8111E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:36:39 +0000 (UTC) --_f00267ad-0682-43aa-bfe0-447f2ac4d42a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ted,=20 I am interested in buying your danelectro baritone...Can you e-mail me more= info please? (Price, condition, year...) Thanks a lot! Lorenzo > From: tedkillian@charter.net > Subject: Re: OT/FS; MORE GEAR LIQUIDATIONS: ALESIS AIR SYNTH AND AIR FX C= OMBO PACKAGE (NO RESERVE) > Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:04:37 -0700 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Qua, >=20 > I am even getting rid of the amps and cabs too - in favor of some=20 > smaller high-quality powered personal monitors. >=20 > I'm getting used to playing through the PA in most cases. >=20 > I've got four 1x12 (Seymour) Duncan Research guitar cabs that I'll be=20 > selling off (or trying to) in the coming weeks. >=20 > Along with them I'll be selling a number of other gadgets and gizmos=20 > including (but not limited to): >=20 > * SKB 16-space shock-mount rack with casters > * Art SGX 2000 Express in a 2-space ProTec rack-bag and X15 Ultrafoot=20 > controller > * Emu Proteus 2 Orchestral > * Emu Proteus 3 World > * ART SLA-1 power amp > * Aphex Aural Exciter 104 C with "Big Bottom" > * 2 Boss RPS-10 pitch-shifter delays > * 3 Alesis Nanoverbs > * Roland M-120 12-channel mixer > * SKB PS-100 pedalboard with 3-rack spaces > * Roland/Boss Sp-303 Sampler > * Danelectro Hodad baritone guitar with GK-2a hex pickup and tweed=20 > gigbag. >=20 > Beyond that, possibly a pair Lexicon Vortexes, an EDP or two and a pair=20 > of Alesis Akiras plus my old faithful Roland GR-1 guitar synth. >=20 > In the end, it may all have to go. >=20 > Im holding on to that last batch of pieces 'til the very last - to see=20 > if this whole software thing REALLY works out as powerfully for me as I=20 > hope. >=20 > Sometimes it's good to have a backup plan. >=20 > I'm just doing it a little bit at a time 'cause I'm lazy (and maybe=20 > over-cautious). >=20 > My planned FX setup to replace all of this is still in a state of flux. >=20 > My ideas change on a week by week basis. >=20 > The next time I play at one of these things people will notice the=20 > lesser amount of gear. >=20 > However, I'll still have quite a bit of it left. >=20 > I've got small pedals galore and combo amps and stuff that folks here=20 > never see. >=20 > The main thing is, my looping rig has to be more portable and=20 > light-weight. >=20 > My back, knees, ankles, arms, heart, and my old automobile will not=20 > take it any more. >=20 > Cheers, >=20 > Ted >=20 > On Oct 17, 2007, at 9:09 AM, Qua Veda wrote: >=20 > > Hi Ted, > > Yes the computers are now powerful enough to be really practice. I'm > > eventually planning on taking a similar approach myself. Then the > > amps/cabs become the remaining heavy lifting items. Glad there are=20 > > folks > > in this community that are generous enough to help us up the (rather=20 > > steep) > > learning curves. >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Conosci Doretta? Contattala, =E8 ora su Messenger! http://www.doretta82.it/banner/index.html= --_f00267ad-0682-43aa-bfe0-447f2ac4d42a_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Hi Ted,

    = I am interested in buying your danelectro baritone...Can you e-mail me more= info please? (Price, condition, year...)

    Thanks a lot!

    Loren= zo



    > From: tedkillian@chart= er.net
    > Subject: Re: OT/FS; MORE GEAR LIQUIDATIONS: ALESIS AIR SYNTH= AND AIR FX COMBO PACKAGE (NO RESERVE)
    > Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:04= :37 -0700
    > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    >
    > = Qua,
    >
    > I am even getting rid of the amps and cabs too - in f= avor of some
    > smaller high-quality powered personal monitors.
    &g= t;
    > I'm getting used to playing through the PA in most cases.
    &g= t;
    > I've got four 1x12 (Seymour) Duncan Research guitar cabs that I= 'll be
    > selling off (or trying to) in the coming weeks.
    > > Along with them I'll be selling a number of other gadgets and gizmos =
    > including (but not limited to):
    >
    > * SKB 16-space sh= ock-mount rack with casters
    > * Art SGX 2000 Express in a 2-space Pro= Tec rack-bag and X15 Ultrafoot
    > controller
    > * Emu Proteus 2 = Orchestral
    > * Emu Proteus 3 World
    > * ART SLA-1 power amp
    &= gt; * Aphex Aural Exciter 104 C with "Big Bottom"
    > * 2 Boss RPS-10 p= itch-shifter delays
    > * 3 Alesis Nanoverbs
    > * Roland M-120 12-= channel mixer
    > * SKB PS-100 pedalboard with 3-rack spaces
    > * = Roland/Boss Sp-303 Sampler
    > * Danelectro Hodad baritone guitar with = GK-2a hex pickup and tweed
    > gigbag.
    >
    > Beyond that, p= ossibly a pair Lexicon Vortexes, an EDP or two and a pair
    > of Alesi= s Akiras plus my old faithful Roland GR-1 guitar synth.
    >
    > In= the end, it may all have to go.
    >
    > Im holding on to that las= t batch of pieces 'til the very last - to see
    > if this whole softwa= re thing REALLY works out as powerfully for me as I
    > hope.
    > =
    > Sometimes it's good to have a backup plan.
    >
    > I'm ju= st doing it a little bit at a time 'cause I'm lazy (and maybe
    > over= -cautious).
    >
    > My planned FX setup to replace all of this is = still in a state of flux.
    >
    > My ideas change on a week by wee= k basis.
    >
    > The next time I play at one of these things peopl= e will notice the
    > lesser amount of gear.
    >
    > However,= I'll still have quite a bit of it left.
    >
    > I've got small pe= dals galore and combo amps and stuff that folks here
    > never see.>
    > The main thing is, my looping rig has to be more portable an= d
    > light-weight.
    >
    > My back, knees, ankles, arms, hea= rt, and my old automobile will not
    > take it any more.
    >
    &= gt; Cheers,
    >
    > Ted
    >
    > On Oct 17, 2007, at 9:09 = AM, Qua Veda wrote:
    >
    > > Hi Ted,
    > > Yes the comp= uters are now powerful enough to be really practice. I'm
    > > event= ually planning on taking a similar approach myself. Then the
    > > a= mps/cabs become the remaining heavy lifting items. Glad there are
    > = > folks
    > > in this community that are generous enough to help = us up the (rather
    > > steep)
    > > learning curves.
    >= ;

    Crea il tuo Spaces: fai il tuo blog e carica fino a 500 f= oto al mese! Windows Li= ve Spaces = --_f00267ad-0682-43aa-bfe0-447f2ac4d42a_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 00:45:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E67F43BECD; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:45:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <001301c8110c$c0906f30$41b14d90$@com> References: <000f01c8108f$57a72a40$1001a8c0@succubus> <000001c810d8$1c0c07f0$542417d0$@com> <001301c8110c$c0906f30$41b14d90$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <330391e4fef70ff22ed815c3cd955ce3@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: OT/FS; MORE GEAR LIQUIDATIONS: ALESIS AIR SYNTH AND AIR FX COMBO PACKAGE (NO RESERVE) Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 17:44:55 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 00:45:04 +0000 (UTC) You guessed it . . . mall Mackie-style powered speakers. On Oct 17, 2007, at 3:26 PM, Qua Veda wrote: > Hi Ted, > I'm curious about the personal monitors you are considering. Do you > mean > kick-back stage monitors? Or small Mackie-style powered spkrs? Other? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 01:52:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FDA63BEC5; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:52:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 721 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:52:58 UTC Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [65.95.65.245] X-Originating-Email: [mikestevensmusic@sympatico.ca] X-Sender: mikestevensmusic@sympatico.ca From: To: Subject: Looperlative for sale Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:40:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C81106.6745C200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.50.0039.1900 Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:40:58 -0400 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Oct 2007 01:40:56.0868 (UTC) FILETIME=[EDA83640:01C81127] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 01:52:59 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C81106.6745C200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I'm selling a Looperlative It's in mint condition and a great looper but I'm only looping a = couple of songs in my show using pedals in a really simple setup so its = overkill for my needs. I'm in Canada right on the border with Port Huron MI so shipping to = the USA or Canada is no problem I would like to get $1200. Please email me off list if your interested Thanks Mike Stevens = mikestevensmusic@sympatico.ca = www.mikestevensmusic.com ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C81106.6745C200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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    ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C81106.6745C200-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 06:49:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B66D3BEA9; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:49:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=fR4JcwMNk+7ubysFwtIDW0u3gbHVNYY6uhFKTwqMoi4=; b=PhISqMinE5v4vgksuG1va1BG/8VpKPwJNREFFpOn3Al9nG9wyn/oqKjkDVLl1zTyJK/8MgD92LcbVTMu9LLpscMZ2r0LO7UQCGWS8Lj8x0mjaevv9ydoM6eXjLhqJVB0W4Rp765zaqOjxwals8mQdzIaYaa6fBbXkRGABDQnFwY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Ndpt2SBs09JuUKd/xOm8EWf3YlPFANYmJlnkCEkgq/tJz5ZLImNCGlmFo36BKNqiA8SOjdchGH7qJtIcA7LBwMAexSBp0DPPO7ovl8ABen70eSCfWeTntvXYiQP8Kr8egz+x8uY2M9engqsm8ik+dJqJGqlYuChgxL6UAjGeKt4= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:49:49 -0700 From: "Matt Davignon" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Drum Machine emergency In-Reply-To: <200710161617.l9GGHjeo022279@minds-eye.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200710161617.l9GGHjeo022279@minds-eye.org> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 06:49:50 +0000 (UTC) Yes you can, but for some reason the longest decay on the 770 doesn't seem as long as on the 660 for that sound. It's really nitpicky I know, but it's a nice simple sound which lends well to melodic stuff and processing. On 10/16/07, Kevin Cheli-Colando was like: > > > --My favorite sound, the TR-808 tom "boop" sound, doesn't have as long > > of a decay as it used to. > > Can't you adjust the decay in the settings of the individual sounds? I > think that's one of the programming options (I have this box but haven't > done much with it, one can only program so many boxes). > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 07:18:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D3C63BEAB; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:18:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4717089D.7070105@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 02:17:49 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Chinapainting Gig Spammery References: <20071016031503.775DF3BEF8@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20071016031503.775DF3BEF8@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:18:14 +0000 (UTC) Though I hate to draw any attention away from the Loopfest, which I'm overwhelmingly excited about, Jim and I (aka Chinapainting) are going to be doing a few other shows in the Bay Area this week with our acoustics and cassette loops. We're in Oakland on Thursday night, that is TO-night, at a small art space called the 1510 8th St Performance Space, at 8:00. It's close to the West Oakland BART, and also to the Loopfest "Best of Show" over on 5th St., just a few blocks away, which I would like to promote in the same breath. Come see at least one of us! Opening for us is a trio called Sophisticuffs, which is drums, horns, and occasionally some guitars all going for it. It's sliding scale, $6-10. Then on Friday we'll be in San Francisco, at a very picturesque gallery in a Victorian called the Meridian Gallery (meridiangallery.org), downtown on Powell St at Bush (535 Powell to be exact), also at 8:00. This one is $8 and should be a really special night. At the 'Fest, we go on at 9:30 on Saturday night (right after Per, which makes me happy though I don't want to miss any of his set). And on Sunday, we go way out to a winery in Lodi called M2 Wines (m2wines.com) for a long afternoon of loops and such. We're on the schedule from 11-4...I expect things will get either really interesting or really malicious after three hours or so, possibly depending on how much tasting we do ourselves. We shall see. That's at 1376 East Turner Road. After that, Jim heads back to Brooklyn and I head back to Oaxaca, though I'll be doing a few solo shows down in SoCal first, in Oxnard and Redondo Beach the following week (details at swanwelder.com). see you at the ffffffFest! ohboyohboy! Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 10:50:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD7DE3BEB3; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:50:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: EDP footpedal weirdness Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:50:24 +0200 Message-ID: <002c01c81174$b0985170$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcgRdK/zD9bW77LoQkCVW9xHw+8eJg== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:50:32 +0000 (UTC) when I tap on the EDP Insert button often and quickly (or sometimes not even quickly) it sometimes triggers Overdub and sometimes Multiply, and sometimes it even jumps into the parameter config section. Can this be due to some exotic parameter setting (I'm currently experimenting a lot and it is still confusing) or does this happen with the EDP footpedal? -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 11:34:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9647C3BEC5; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:34:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 624557294-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.237.153 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj0KAPThFkdPQu2Z/2dsb2JhbACCKaIo Message-ID: <471744D2.6060501@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:34:42 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP footpedal weirdness References: <002c01c81174$b0985170$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> In-Reply-To: <002c01c81174$b0985170$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:34:44 +0000 (UTC) hi Michael, This will be the switch starting to malfunction. Could try cleaning it. ...or replace. andy butler Michael Peters wrote: > when I tap on the EDP Insert button often and quickly (or sometimes not even > quickly) it sometimes triggers Overdub and sometimes Multiply, and sometimes > it even jumps into the parameter config section. Can this be due to some > exotic parameter setting (I'm currently experimenting a lot and it is still > confusing) or does this happen with the EDP footpedal? > > -Michael > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 13:56:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 870A93BEAF; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:56:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 624614743-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.237.153 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj0KAMACF0dPQu2Z/2dsb2JhbACCKY4Kk1o Message-ID: <471765EF.6000305@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:55:59 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: LD Subject: Mixer Question OT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 13:56:01 +0000 (UTC) hello LD, Currently I'm looking to replace my Behringer 2642 as a couple of the channels no longer work. (that's after about 15yrs) Any suggestions as to what is available would be greatly appreciated. Any reports of actually ABing mixers for pre-amp/EQ would be especially welcome. The features of the 2642 are just about perfect, 8 mic ch 4 stereo ch 4 extra stereo ins ( essential ) I've used the mic-pres on the 2642 for electric guitar and for percussion (and for vocals in a live setting), and thought they were ok. I only used the eq for live work, it's sufficient. I've checked out a few options so far. My main worry is that while it's not difficult to make a very high quality line level mixer, it's also possible to save a few pennies per item by using slightly cheaper op amps, with a significant change in the sound which won't be picked up in the specs. For sure, many companies do this . Behringer 2642A, which is obviously a match for features, but is about a third of the price I paid for the 2642. Mackie 1642 VLZ3, good features, and was tempted until I looked at their website. Allen & Heath Mix Wizard WZ3 14/4/2 ..another one with Z3 in the name...who was first? If it's value for money then I'm reassured by the price tag. SoundCraft Spirit M8 (seems they can keep on selling this without 'upgrading' every other year) SoundCraft FX16ii (enough Mono Ch to cover my need for stereo, and while usually I'd never consider a mixer with FX, this has a tweakable Lexicon unit) Others? any facts/opinions welcome andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 14:16:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BAFF53BEB3; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:16:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=qBXqFGc/fw7ovD5l4i4lI5qdHUXLJbd4I26gcSy/6OdpATnlslpX8olAsJrRO36zPXHESfEc2q4utWhvVl6cqEjFleXkAGoX/b0k6FBUqzN7cvVc8HddbcT34NlRJ96nqoZ6tpYgfXGawEGPjUGkun0cOGxQqjhIoUnNiSba7tU=; X-YMail-OSG: NAPqyzYVM1kH5jNV5gMX7KdiZjVZnxcEH4LZDdE1xGwLOJ.qtnITyZv6WScQBaqRgg-- Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:16:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Subject: Re: Other Loop Festivals? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <149779.59784.qm@web34503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:16:09 +0000 (UTC) --- Travis Hartnett wrote: > However, consider that it's not that venues in your > area aren't loop > friendly, but rather that they aren't open to the > type of music you wish to > play which happens to involve looping. > > TH Of course... I suppose I could have been a touch more clear on that. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 14:38:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C45A3BEB5; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:38:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1615 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:38:54 UTC Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:11:57 +0200 Message-Id: <754724686@web.de> Disposition-Notification-To: music@cool.ms MIME-Version: 1.0 From: music@cool.ms To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro at ebay Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-Sender: newsic@web.de X-Provags-Id: V01U2FsdGVkX19KpEFS/1xo/5+eN33b60n1vxoIb/bjQohujQYaCRH4YFkMW mhDS6vo4zQ1t+xHbNnNoR+Hu41TvIrkGfWVxMA9oDXmTx6pxzM= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5fosW.A.nND.-_2FHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:38:55 +0000 (UTC) Hello, I sell one from my oberheim echoplex digital pro devices by ebay: http://cgi.ebay.de/Oberheim-ECHOPLEX-DIGITAL-PRO-Livelooper-Livesampler_W0QQitemZ330177721821QQihZ014QQcategoryZ96622QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Best regards dh From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 14:39:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CA383BEB3; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:39:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Mixer Question OT Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:40:06 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <001101c81194$c70a6b80$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <471765EF.6000305@tiscali.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcgRjp5dbaGnV0o0Q1uTw9T5tYqGTwABfuDQ X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OI/oKfLw3w== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:39:41 +0000 (UTC) > Behringer 2642A, which is obviously a match for features, but > is about a third of the price I paid for the 2642. I have both the 2642 and the 2642A. Main improvements on the A version: * 4-band graphic EQ on the 4 main stereo channels * LEDs in mute and PFL/Solo buttons * considerably quieter Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 14:45:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 537AB3BEB8; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:45:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 327 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:45:12 UTC Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:39:43 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re:Mixer Question OT MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_=__=_XaM3_.1192718383.2A.329100.42.20394.52.42.007.514964894" From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:45:14 +0000 (UTC) --_=__=_XaM3_.1192718383.2A.329100.42.20394.52.42.007.514964894 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andy, I have recently reviewed most of the mixers on your list. If your budget = allows you to buy an Allen & Heath, you won't be disappointed. The Mix Wi= zard series (I have the 14:4:2) are the most flexible mixers you will fin= d in this price range. I use it for both looping and as FOH mixer when pe= rforming with my band. The Mackie 1604 was my 2nd choice, also a very goo= d mixer imo. Plusses compared to Mackie 1604: - More routing options (matrix mixing) - mono sub-out - All 6 aux sends (1/2, 3/4, 5/6) are pre or post fade - Configurable features (internal switches) e.g. mono/stereo aux send/ret= urns - Extra inputs on stereo channels - Very usable EQ Btw, A&H also have a WZ 16:2 with internal FX. The most flexbile mixer fo= r loopers however is the 20S, that's a monitor mixer with 12 aux send/ret= urns per channel but almost twice the price of the 14:4:2 :) Sjaak=0A---=0AScarlet One, ADSL 6 Mbps + Telefonie, vanaf EUR 29,95...=0A= http://www.scarlet.be/ --_=__=_XaM3_.1192718383.2A.329100.42.20394.52.42.007.514964894 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Hi Andy,
    I have recently reviewed most of the mixers on your list. If your bu= dget allows you to buy an Allen & Heath, you won't be disappoint= ed. The Mix Wizard series (I have the 14:4:2) are the most= flexible mixers you will find in this price range. I use it for both loo= ping and as FOH mixer when performing with my band. The Mackie 1604 was m= y 2nd choice, also a very good mixer imo.
     
    Plusses compared to Mackie 1604:
    - More routing options (matrix mixing)
    - mono sub-out
    - All 6 aux sends (1/2, 3/4, 5/6) are pre or post fade
    - Configurable features (internal switches) e.g. mono/stereo aux sen= d/returns 
    - Extra inputs on stereo channels
    - Very usable EQ
     
    Btw, A&H also have a WZ 16:2 with internal FX. The mos= t flexbile mixer for loopers however is the 20S, that's a monitor mixer w= ith 12 aux send/returns per channel but almost twice the price = of the 14:4:2 :)
     
    Sjaak
    --_=__=_XaM3_.1192718383.2A.329100.42.20394.52.42.007.514964894-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 14:58:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B38F83BEB3; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:58:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002001c81197$a0ec8c50$5901a8c0@bobdell> Reply-To: "Bob Amstadt" From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <149779.59784.qm@web34503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Other Loop Festivals? Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:00:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:58:59 +0000 (UTC) In general, booking venues is all about marketing. If you can go into a venue and promise them 50 to 100 people attending your show, then you won't have any troubles booking venues. If you go into a venue expecting them to provide the audience for you, then it will be a much harder sell. Use the Internet and other means to network with other musicians of all types. Find other musicians that like your music and you like theirs. Work together to build audiences and to approach venues. Bob Amstadt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 15:27:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 812433BEB5; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:27:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <026d01c8119b$6c194e60$b6b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <754724686@web.de> Subject: Re: Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro at ebay Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:27:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-15"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:27:42 +0000 (UTC) Out of curiousity, why did you send this message with a request for read response? That basically generates a pop up confirmation window on everyone's screen who has an email program that understands the request. Do you actually want to know who of all 500 folks on this list read your own message? Kris > Hello, > > I sell one from my oberheim echoplex digital pro devices by ebay: > http://cgi.ebay.de/Oberheim-ECHOPLEX-DIGITAL-PRO-Livelooper-Livesampler_W0QQitemZ330177721821QQihZ014QQcategoryZ96622QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Best regards > > dh > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 15:47:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DB5E3BEB3; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <380-2200710418154745816@M2W017.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: qua@oregon.com X-Originating-IP: 134.134.136.4 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "qua@oregon.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:47:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Mixer Question OT Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 15:47:53 +0000 (UTC) If I was buying a h/w mixer today, I'd give very serious consideration to the Allen & Heath Mix Wizard WZ3 14/4/2=2E In the world of "small format"= mixers , it gets very high marks for sound quality, and it has great routing flexibility via sends and routing matrix=2E =20 The M8 has a mono output fader which can be very handy, and Soundcraft audio quality is also very good=2E Mackie is solid, good value, practically an industry std in small format mixers=2E But not necessarily the best - depending on your needs=2E there= quality took downturn after they started outsourcing their sub assemblies (wiring harnesses etc)=2E I had to send in a 1604VLZ twice for repairs=2E= =20 as much as I'd like to migrate everything to the s/w domain, I still love to be able to put my hands on hardwired mixer controls=2E the midi contr= ol surfaces don't provide the same human interaction=2E I'll be very interested to hear what you decided to do -Qua Original Message: ----------------- From: andy butler akbutler@tiscali=2Eco=2Euk Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:55:59 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight=2Ecom Subject: Mixer Question OT hello LD, Currently I'm looking to replace my Behringer 2642 as a couple of the=20 channels no longer work=2E (that's after about 15yrs) Any suggestions as to what is available would be greatly appreciated=2E Any reports of actually ABing mixers for pre-amp/EQ would be especially=20= welcome=2E The features of the 2642 are just about perfect, 8 mic ch 4 stereo ch 4 extra stereo ins ( essential ) I've used the mic-pres on the 2642 for electric guitar and for percussion (and for vocals in a live setting), and thought they were ok=2E I only used the eq for live work, it's sufficient=2E I've checked out a few options so far=2E My main worry is that while it's not difficult to make a very high=20 quality line level mixer, it's also possible to save a few pennies per item by using slightly=20 cheaper op amps, with a significant change in the sound which won't be picked up in the=20 specs=2E For sure, many companies do this =2E Behringer 2642A, which is obviously a match for features, but is about a third of the price I paid for the 2642=2E Mackie 1642 VLZ3, good features, and was tempted until I looked at their=20= website=2E Allen & Heath Mix Wizard WZ3 14/4/2 =2E=2Eanother one with Z3 in the name=2E=2E=2Ewho was first=3F If it's value for money then I'm reassured by the price tag=2E SoundCraft Spirit M8 (seems they can keep on selling this without=20 'upgrading' every other year) SoundCraft FX16ii (enough Mono Ch to cover my need for stereo, and=20 while usually I'd never consider a mixer with FX, this has a tweakable Lexicon unit) Others=3F any facts/opinions welcome andy butler -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link=2Email2web=2Ecom/mail2web From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 16:21:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 832413BEAC; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:21:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 12:21:02 -0400 From: Warren Sirota Subject: Happy LoopFest! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <021e01c811a2$e1f73d70$4b02a8c0@warren5d67d038> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_MrXDJUdCJMk223PvWbVcLQ)" Thread-index: AcgRot+ZCQz72SB4T3KWebASGrAXLQ== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:21:09 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_MrXDJUdCJMk223PvWbVcLQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I wish I could be there with y'all. My heart is with you - have a terrific weekend, all. 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    I wish I could be there with y’all. My heart is with you – have a terrific weekend, all.

     

    Warren

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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 16:46:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 453FE3BEB8; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:46:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Happy LoopFest! Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:47:07 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000d01c811a6$853e6000$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-index: AcgRot+ZCQz72SB4T3KWebASGrAXLQAA0v1A In-Reply-To: <021e01c811a2$e1f73d70$4b02a8c0@warren5d67d038> X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD10+29g0h1uo4SUA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:46:40 +0000 (UTC) Warren said: > I wish I could be there with y'all. My heart is with you - have a terrific weekend, all. Same from me - it's such a pity that there isn't a live transmission this year - I do still remember y2k5 (I think this was the first y2k festival with a webcast) where I would listen to the transmission before going out in the evening, return in the wee hours just to catch the evening bill (as we're 9 hours ahead) and spend the day reviewing the recordings of what has happened in between. Have a great festival! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 16:48:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 044933BEA9; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:48:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=ix.netcom.com; b=U52uRN78ur4eTsDrLaE2Z5x5ZQcP7AP9t2UlgN7GWtAZOwxVlz/1/OTL3DhMqJ1R; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <19918437.1192726114119.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 09:48:33 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: synchro1 Reply-To: synchro1 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Happy LoopFest! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 X-ELNK-Trace: 7c4b038661a0657e74cfc7ce3b1ad11381c87f5e519606889a5974070449b9bf6282da936c0e030c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.32 Resent-Message-ID: <_po-VD.A.nBH.j54FHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 16:48:36 +0000 (UTC)

    Same here.  I was on vacation last week camping in Big Sur.  W= e drove up to Santa Cruz on Saturday (10/13) because I wanted to be sure to= see Kevin Kissinger playing the theremin.  The door at 120 Pearl Alle= y was locked and the local music store clerk pointed to the poster in = the window informing the world the fest would begin on 10/19. 

    I felt pretty stupid.  So we went over to New Brighton Beach, grabb= ed a last-minute cancellation site and then walked down to Seacliff beach t= o view the Aptos fireworks that evening.  They were very creative but = not as much as the LoopFest should be.

    Jim W., San Mateo

     

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Warren Sirota
    Sent: Oct 18, 2007 9:21 AM
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.co= m
    Subject: Happy LoopFest!

    I wish I could be there with y=E2=80=99all. My he= art is with you =E2=80=93 have a terrific weekend, all.

     

    Warren

    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 18:01:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBEDC3BEB3; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:01:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 376 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:01:58 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=llL+MTjSn99B1kLbtu37CA+MdGHp/b02zU7x2OwREtI=; b=GhuY++8qZsqS6eDztkTf1yLS7k0JtDGmXQZQQ6KZr2tK1r+pY8eK65M0O06Qe6fh5uN3jr2KlW0iEVWHSdw/QdvTzEsCyIi6cS7Gy7e95Iuao+bhWx1EB8cRQkJv2UlpQ+Tc2b+pb5+HN7LfDpn6YKZHjkKKIVJNyPPsck/NFvU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=g+08Kb2uro8n+tYO7gC+UX+c/bYMVcHQjplDZAvZZew8nWUGoniGl1x/bgN5hqz4YqkB2cQqH2sgwxdhO7ouTDraJlcTEdDVfVdG5pPraJdz6kiarz4MdDOomiJ92c46cf5p6SqLgwoSb8U7+c+UpV3A0zRHVojavps4hzF/HAU= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:55:41 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Fwd: Happy LoopFest! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2031_29194208.1192730141668" References: <19918437.1192726114119.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:01:58 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2031_29194208.1192730141668 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Raul Bonell Date: 18/10/2007 19:55 Subject: Re: Happy LoopFest! To: synchro1 i wish to be there... work don't allows me, by now, but you'll not free fro= m me for the next editions... a big hoorra to rick!! have a great weekend!!!! an= d post some music, vids, as soon as possible... raul. 2007/10/18, synchro1 : > > Same here. I was on vacation last week camping in Big Sur. We drove up > to Santa Cruz on Saturday (10/13) because I wanted to be sure to see Kevi= n > Kissinger playing the theremin. The door at 120 Pearl Alley was locked a= nd > the local music store clerk pointed to the poster in the window informing > the world the fest would begin on 10/19. > > I felt pretty stupid. So we went over to New Brighton Beach, grabbed a > last-minute cancellation site and then walked down to Seacliff beach to v= iew > the Aptos fireworks that evening. They were very creative but not as muc= h > as the LoopFest should be. > > Jim W., San Mateo > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Warren Sirota > Sent: Oct 18, 2007 9:21 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Happy LoopFest! > > I wish I could be there with y'all. My heart is with you =96 have a > terrific weekend, all. > > > > Warren > > --=20 The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra --=20 The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_2031_29194208.1192730141668 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline

    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com>
    Date: 18/10/2007= 19:55
    Subject: Re: Happy LoopFest!
    To: synchro1 <synchro1@ix.netcom.com>

    i wish to = be there... work don't allows me, by now, but you'll not free from = me
    for the next editions... a big hoorra to rick!! have a great weekend!!!= ! and post
    some music, vids, as soon as possible...

    raul.

    2007/10/18, synchro1 <synchro1@ix.netcom.com>:

    Same here.  I was on vacation last week camping in Big Sur.  W= e drove up to Santa Cruz on Saturday (10/13) because I wanted to be sure to= see Kevin Kissinger playing the theremin.  The door at 120 Pearl Alle= y was locked and the local music store clerk pointed to the poster in = the window informing the world the fest would begin on 10/19. =20

    I felt pretty stupid.  So we went over to New Brighton Beach, grabb= ed a last-minute cancellation site and then walked down to Seacliff beach t= o view the Aptos fireworks that evening.  They were very creative but = not as much as the LoopFest should be.

    Jim W., San Mateo

     

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Warren Sirota
    Sent: Oct 18, 200= 7 9:21 AM
    To: Lo= opers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject: Happy LoopFest!

    I wish I could be there with y'all. My heart is with you = =96 have a terrific weekend, all.

     

    Warren



    --
    The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra<= /a>

    --
    The Playing Orchestra:     http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Ch= ain Tape Collective: http://www.ct= -collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_2031_29194208.1192730141668-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 18:19:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FE0B3BEC5; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:19:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20071018141928.VD27N.198102.root@fepweb15> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:19:28 -0400 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Happy LoopFest! Cc: Warren Sirota In-Reply-To: <021e01c811a2$e1f73d70$4b02a8c0@warren5d67d038> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: <2LVgTC.A.8DC.0O6FHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 18:19:33 +0000 (UTC) Warren, Sad to hear you will not be there. I am attending but not performing this year. I'm relishing the idea of relaxing and having a good time for a change. Lotsa great performers this year. I can't wait. BTW, how is your "Slow Gold" project doing these days? Cheers, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?p= layListId=3D6378076=20 Also check out the BEMF 1 CDs at: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimenta= l/cd.htm http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 http://www.guitarplayer.com/story.asp?storyCode=3D18131 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ---- Warren Sirota wrote:=20 > I wish I could be there with y'all. My heart is with you - have a terrifi= c > weekend, all. >=20 > =20 >=20 > Warren >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 19:50:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF84C3BEB5; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:50:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:50:55 +0200 Message-Id: <754863253@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: music@cool.ms To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro at ebay Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-Sender: newsic@web.de X-Provags-Id: V01U2FsdGVkX18a7Ci7CKOQq/A9qBX49GodngDXXCLraURpaX1PJ2QZat0Di d6OIg9OX6RW75zfe/MlDNyqW1SrvdkHlhHiaNfJTM8ID+EEn/w= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <9OWZaB.A.R9F.hk7FHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:50:57 +0000 (UTC) Hi Kris,=20 sorry, of course I don't want or need the request, it was a automaticly fu= nction from the mailservice. Sorry :-(=20 I hope I made it change now without request :-) dh -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Gesendet: 18.10.07 17:27:50 An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Betreff: Re: Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro at ebay Out of curiousity, why did you send this message with a request for read=20 response=3F That basically generates a pop up confirmation window on=20 everyone's screen who has an email program that understands the request. D= o=20 you actually want to know who of all 500 folks on this list read your own=20 message=3F Kris > Hello, > > I sell one from my oberheim echoplex digital pro devices by ebay: > http://cgi.ebay.de/Oberheim-ECHOPLEX-DIGITAL-PRO-Livelooper-Livesampler=5F= W0QQitemZ330177721821QQihZ014QQcategoryZ96622QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZ= ViewItem > > Best regards > > dh >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 18 21:06:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F0113BEB3; Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:06:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003701c811ca$c6f74920$6c052052@customer3530f5> From: "Ian Popperwell" To: References: Subject: Re: Re:Mixer Question OT Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:06:39 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01C811D3.28AB0F50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:06:42 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C811D3.28AB0F50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To add to this Andy, I've had the A&H MixxWizzard 20/8/2 in my studio = since it came out in 87(ish) and have the WZ3-16/2 for my PA and am = really happy with both - build quality, noise, eq, aux sends, long = faders, seperate phantom power..... I guess the only Just a couple of = things I'd say about the 16/2 are: 1. it doesn't have a talkback feature (important when needing all = chanels and using a multicore). 2. the effects aren't that useful unless you reprogramme them with the = software. 3. some of the control placement in the master section is a little = strange - But you're looking at the 14 version aren't you... I had the Mackie CFX16 and was a bit disapointed on quality and features = - but the A&H is significantly more for the 16chanel version . Good luck. Ian. . ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Sjaak=20 To: Loopers-Delight=20 Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 3:39 PM Subject: Re:Mixer Question OT Hi Andy, I have recently reviewed most of the mixers on your list. If your = budget allows you to buy an Allen & Heath, you won't be disappointed. = The Mix Wizard series (I have the 14:4:2) are the most flexible mixers = you will find in this price range. I use it for both looping and as FOH = mixer when performing with my band. The Mackie 1604 was my 2nd choice, = also a very good mixer imo. Plusses compared to Mackie 1604: - More routing options (matrix mixing) - mono sub-out - All 6 aux sends (1/2, 3/4, 5/6) are pre or post fade=20 - Configurable features (internal switches) e.g. mono/stereo aux = send/returns=20 - Extra inputs on stereo channels - Very usable EQ Btw, A&H also have a WZ 16:2 with internal FX. The most flexbile mixer = for loopers however is the 20S, that's a monitor mixer with 12 aux = send/returns per channel but almost twice the price of the 14:4:2 :)=20 Sjaak ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01C811D3.28AB0F50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    To add to this Andy, I've had the A&H  = MixxWizzard=20 20/8/2 in my studio since it came out in 87(ish) and have the WZ3-16/2 = for my PA=20 and am really happy with both - build quality, noise, eq, aux sends, = long=20 faders, seperate phantom power..... I guess the only Just a couple of = things I'd=20 say about the 16/2 are:
    1. it doesn't have a talkback feature (important = when needing=20 all chanels and using a multicore).
    2. the effects aren't that useful unless you = reprogramme them=20 with the software.
    3. some of the control placement in the master = section is a=20 little strange -
     
    But you're looking at the 14 version aren't=20 you...
     
    I had the Mackie CFX16 and was a bit disapointed on = quality=20 and features - but the A&H is significantly more for the 16chanel = version=20 .
     
    Good luck.
     
    Ian.
    .
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 Sjaak=20
    To: Loopers-Delight =
    Sent: Thursday, October 18, = 2007 3:39=20 PM
    Subject: Re:Mixer Question = OT

    Hi Andy,
    I have recently reviewed most of the mixers on your list. If your = budget=20 allows you to buy an Allen & Heath, you won't be=20 disappointed. The Mix Wizard series (I have the = 14:4:2) are the=20 most flexible mixers you will find in this price range. I use it for = both=20 looping and as FOH mixer when performing with my band. The Mackie 1604 = was my=20 2nd choice, also a very good mixer imo.
     
    Plusses compared to Mackie 1604:
    - More routing options (matrix mixing)
    - mono sub-out
    - All 6 aux sends (1/2, 3/4, 5/6) are pre or post fade =
    - Configurable features (internal switches) e.g. mono/stereo aux=20 send/returns 
    - Extra inputs on stereo channels
    - Very usable EQ
     
    Btw, A&H also have a WZ 16:2 with internal FX. The = most=20 flexbile mixer for loopers however is the 20S, that's a monitor mixer = with=20 12 aux send/returns per channel but almost twice the = price of the=20 14:4:2 :)
     
    Sjaak
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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 03:09:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70CDF3BEA4; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 03:09:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 29516 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 03:09:08 UTC Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:51:25 -0400 From: rick To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: The trend these days for the EDP?? Message-ID: <20071018185125.GA12565@SillyBoy.zoominternet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Spam-Score: 0.00 () [Tag at 15.00] X-CanItPRO-Stream: outgoing X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 24.154.1.27 Resent-Message-ID: <5KTW5.A.c-.U_BGHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 03:09:08 +0000 (UTC) I was looking to get back into my acoustic looping project again and was wondering about using my EDP or moving more into the laptop side of things, which got me to thinking or wondering - For the most part is the EDP still being widely used or is the laptop made good strides in replacing it pretty much?? For me, I still prefer to work with the EDP, even though my laptop is alot more versatile, but I end up spending most of my time figuring, tweaking or whatever with the computer :O( rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 03:24:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C08E33BEB0; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 03:24:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <005401c811ff$bb369bb0$5901a8c0@bobdell> Reply-To: "Bob Amstadt" From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <20071018185125.GA12565@SillyBoy.zoominternet.net> Subject: Re: The trend these days for the EDP?? Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:25:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 03:24:08 +0000 (UTC) I don't know what the general trends are, but there are still a great many people purchasing hardware loopers. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 03:41:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BE763BEB9; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 03:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <20071018185125.GA12565@SillyBoy.zoominternet.net> References: <20071018185125.GA12565@SillyBoy.zoominternet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <95fe2ba5061e33a7492f64d8c944f81c@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: The trend these days for the EDP?? Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:41:43 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 03:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Rick, I intend to sell the EDPs (and perhaps my Vortex) very last of all. I may be going laptop, but I am doing it gradually, not all at once. I am mostly paring down the gear pile, not eliminating it altogether. I suspect I will find some excuse to hang on the my EDPs for quite a while yet. That's my 2 bits. Cheers, Ted On Oct 18, 2007, at 11:51 AM, rick wrote: > > I was looking to get back into my acoustic looping project again > and was wondering about using my EDP or moving more into the laptop > side of things, which got me to thinking or wondering - > > For the most part is the EDP still being widely used or is the laptop > made good strides in replacing it pretty much?? > > For me, I still prefer to work with the EDP, even though my laptop > is alot more versatile, but I end up spending most of my time > figuring, tweaking or whatever with the computer :O( > > rick > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 04:23:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AC5A3BEB6; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 04:23:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=CbHh4joRVTHa3NjDD7tlCqO6CTbgtrhvzQ3c/G0sB+Y=; b=p/wge3veqsJX6RlizsGVU8wN1wAslYdQ/UZRTDMWF9BLs7kytAEeMoi+t0UNyiYfNVjQiyVt3Sjzr6k4x+f0AUO2GX2tp6EYjnkYfkCnfycJWSSU6GeGcWwpcTO5MMz6yQWgkK8LptRuykBJTKkcNkBDehQaJEeuDJY6DvUj7TQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YPA/ErCfSKHfOyiQe4hariSEHk8r5cdzO5FquxF5hvMJvCi/FlIXG95tC7mOzaA4eej9uTnAFFEq0+VV6hFnBZMIJfyDL8W/ur2TKB+zbBjcew+d+SadCcNTcVN7STw45H9wo3Xb6jhii84TEgxe6Irf3iBm8omycuuEsVsiSUo= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:23:20 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The trend these days for the EDP?? In-Reply-To: <95fe2ba5061e33a7492f64d8c944f81c@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4180_24488898.1192767800111" References: <20071018185125.GA12565@SillyBoy.zoominternet.net> <95fe2ba5061e33a7492f64d8c944f81c@charter.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 04:23:25 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4180_24488898.1192767800111 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline me, by the time, i'm going laptop based and at the same time planning to upgrade my plex to loop IV ... better than replace.. ...mix it! good night z ZZ zz ZZZ zzz 2007/10/19, tEd (R) KiLLiAn : > > Rick, > > I intend to sell the EDPs (and perhaps my Vortex) very last of all. > > I may be going laptop, but I am doing it gradually, not all at once. > > I am mostly paring down the gear pile, not eliminating it altogether. > > I suspect I will find some excuse to hang on the my EDPs for quite a > while yet. > > That's my 2 bits. > > Cheers, > > Ted > > On Oct 18, 2007, at 11:51 AM, rick wrote: > > > > > I was looking to get back into my acoustic looping project again > > and was wondering about using my EDP or moving more into the laptop > > side of things, which got me to thinking or wondering - > > > > For the most part is the EDP still being widely used or is the laptop > > made good strides in replacing it pretty much?? > > > > For me, I still prefer to work with the EDP, even though my laptop > > is alot more versatile, but I end up spending most of my time > > figuring, tweaking or whatever with the computer :O( > > > > rick > > > > > > > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_4180_24488898.1192767800111 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline me, by the time, i'm going laptop based and at the same time
    planning to upgrade my plex to loop IV ... better than replace..

    ...mix it!

    good night z ZZ zz ZZZ zzz

    2007/10/19, tEd ® KiLLiAn <tedkillian@charter.net>:
    Rick,

    I intend to sell the EDPs (and perhaps my Vortex) very last of all.

    I may be going laptop, but I am doing it gradually, not all at once.

    I am mostly paring down the gear pile, not eliminating it altogether.

    I suspect I will find some excuse to hang on the my EDPs for quite a
    while yet.

    That's my 2 bits.

    Cheers,

    Ted

    On Oct 18, 2007, at 11:51 AM, rick wrote:

    >
    > I was looking to get back into my acoustic looping project again
    > and was wondering about using my EDP or moving more into the laptop
    > side of things, which got me to thinking or wondering -
    >
    > For the most part is the EDP still being widely used or is the laptop
    > made good strides in replacing it pretty much??
    >
    > For me, I still prefer to work with the EDP, even though my laptop
    > is alot more versatile, but I end up spending most of my time
    > figuring, tweaking or whatever with the computer :O(
    >
    > rick
    >
    >
    >




    --
    The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_4180_24488898.1192767800111-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 07:05:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D31A3BEB3; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 07:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 624855272-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.158.72 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj0KAB30F0dPQp5I/2dsb2JhbACCKaIi Message-ID: <47185724.90302@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:05:08 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The trend these days for the EDP?? References: <20071018185125.GA12565@SillyBoy.zoominternet.net> In-Reply-To: <20071018185125.GA12565@SillyBoy.zoominternet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 07:05:12 +0000 (UTC) hi Rick Yes, laptop is much more versatile. On the other hand it doesn't replace the EDP (even though Mobius comes close, and is obviously more powerful in many ways ) ..and the advantage with the EDP is that the user interface is designed for improvising loopers by improvising loopers, and refined by improvising loopers over the years. That is to say, you get access to a lot of functionality with just a few footswitches. Hard to say, a laptop with Mobius may do everything you want, or you may find there's EDP tricks you like that it doesn't handle. For basic looping, Mobius runs more or less like an EDP clone if you want, using the same MIDI controls. Beyond that, it's a totally different beast. One day, it'll all be laptops. Apart from the pre-amps, mixers, and DIs. andy butler rick wrote: > I was looking to get back into my acoustic looping project again > and was wondering about using my EDP or moving more into the laptop > side of things, which got me to thinking or wondering - > > For the most part is the EDP still being widely used or is the laptop > made good strides in replacing it pretty much?? > > For me, I still prefer to work with the EDP, even though my laptop > is alot more versatile, but I end up spending most of my time > figuring, tweaking or whatever with the computer :O( > > rick > > > > From member@ebay.com Fri Oct 19 07:48:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 141294 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 07:48:27 UTC Received: from dakotaarchery.com (dakotaarchery.com [69.36.177.167]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E09D93BEAF; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 07:48:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([62.68.49.204]) (authenticated bits=0) by dakotaarchery.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l9HGSaPK022072; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:28:44 -0600 Message-Id: <200710171628.l9HGSaPK022072@dakotaarchery.com> Reply-To: From: "eBay" Subject: Response to Question about Item Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 12:29:10 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 To: undisclosed-recipients:;
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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 07:54:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A51C3BEB2; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 07:54:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 398 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 07:54:48 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=UwiOwmah1eZz1VBHReCJ13c2Zv08NHSoOiaV6sHCUsK559SSOI1zgW0DMFhoolIRlth/sr6T6lmhx2iordPUmH2HcHd4JznvikY2BkfSBXL0CykiGCXP0N+faUuhvhqLUxVakTCe15DZElaqJymKwqaAjEPe1paPWbLuMV78VgA=; X-YMail-OSG: 1AiroB0VM1muFUy5BaLM1s7pAjRN6ETgt1Qy4594V0gA53Hq24vz8bdjJaHnHAArSZCtzCsnjTAIpXvFwoAO.aq2ZWQ8RKewWhFyuEM4QjpIw6Hn Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:48:05 +0200 (CEST) From: rune fagereng Subject: Re:The trend these days ! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20071018185125.GA12565@SillyBoy.zoominternet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-586833091-1192780085=:891" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <852408.891.qm@web26206.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 07:54:49 +0000 (UTC) --0-586833091-1192780085=:891 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi ! I was at a Eivind Aarset gig some weeks ago. He used to use Eventide and Repeater - but this time he used Mac - Sooperlooper and Ableton. Best regards Rune F. rick skrev: I was looking to get back into my acoustic looping project again and was wondering about using my EDP or moving more into the laptop side of things, which got me to thinking or wondering - For the most part is the EDP still being widely used or is the laptop made good strides in replacing it pretty much?? For me, I still prefer to work with the EDP, even though my laptop is alot more versatile, but I end up spending most of my time figuring, tweaking or whatever with the computer :O( rick --------------------------------- Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. --0-586833091-1192780085=:891 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
     
    Hi !
     
    I was at a Eivind Aarset gig some weeks ago. He used to use Eventide and Repeater - but this time he used Mac - Sooperlooper and Ableton.
     
    Best regards Rune F.  

    rick <bs@tanawana.com> skrev:

    I was looking to get back into my acoustic looping project again
    and was wondering about using my EDP or moving more into the laptop
    side of things, which got me to thinking or wondering -

    For the most part is the EDP still being widely used or is the laptop
    made good strides in replacing it pretty much??

    For me, I still prefer to work with the EDP, even though my laptop
    is alot more versatile, but I end up spending most of my time
    figuring, tweaking or whatever with the computer :O(

    rick





    Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk.
    --0-586833091-1192780085=:891-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 09:10:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 387BA3BEB6; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:10:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <018c01c8122f$d9b48b30$6501a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Y2K7 BEGINS Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 02:10:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:10:04 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Rick Walker here, I"m really excited to announce the Y2K7 INTERNATIONAL LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL, will occur in Santa Cruz this coming weekend (Friday 8 p.m.- 11 p.m., Saturday 1:00-midnight and Sunday, 1:00 to midnight) at the Pearl Alley Studios. Held where it has been for the last two years, it is in the middle of the building in the north end of the parking lot that is directly in front of the Pearl Alley Bistro). Below is the updated schedule (rev 14.0). Please come join us!!!! The festival opens up with a bang on Friday evening with headliners Erdem Helvacioglu (laptop/guitar) from Turkey, the famous ECM jazz bassist, Arild Andersen from Norway and noted experimental and eclectic guitarist Henry Kaiser (from Antarctica---;-) and culminates with an improvisational trio set with myself, Henry and Arild. This show begins at 8 p.m. Then the main festival begins on Saturday and runs both Saturday and Sunday from 1:00 p.m. until midnight on both days. Headliner, Fabio Anile, who was such a hit at the first pan European looping festival put on by Bernhard Wagner will be here all the way from Rome, Italy. Featured performer Randolf Arriola a wonderful looping singer-songwriter will be playing after travelling all the way from Singapore! Leander Reinginhaus, the guitarist who organized the 1st Berlin Live Looping Festival as well. We'll also have an incredible and rare treat: Matthias Grob, inventor of the Echoplex, has just flown in at the last minute from Brazil to perform his beautiful music for us all. There will be technology premieres, Bill Walker will be demonstrating the Looperlative, the latest, sophisticated hardware looper and there will be a lot of wonderful discussions in and outside of the performance space. About this festival, I can say that after having played in 12 countries over the course of my musical life in a plethora of very creative experimental, avant garde, new music, electronica, live looping and world beat festivals that this is literally, one of the most creative and eclectic music festivals on the planet. Our beloved Santa Cruz Mayor, Emily Reilly, will also be on hand to present proclamations to the travelling artists declaring Saturday, October 20th to be "International Live Looping Day" in the City of Santa Cruz. The cost is a mere $10 a concert with no one turned away for lack of funds and all ages are welcome. In fact, kids will love how creative this is, especially during the day concerts. Please come join us in welcoming these amazing artists from all over the planet. There's is a great gift to come so far to play for us. Here's the schedule....................see you there!!!! Y2K7 INTERNATIONAL LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL made possible by a grant from the Cultural Council of Santa Cruz, monetary contributions from Looperlative, Universal Audio, private individuals and the gift of performances by all involved. The Singapore Cultural Arts Council has sponsored Randolf Arriola. Pearl Alley Studios 120 Pearl Alley, Santa Cruz, Ca. (one half block west of the Pacific Garden Mall) TICKETS: $10/per day at the door only no one turned away for lack of funds for more information (including venue, etc.) go to www.y2kloopfest.com for more information about our performing artists, headliners and featured performers, go to www.y2kloopfest.com/bios.html FRIDAY, October 19th schedule: stage right = -1 stage left = -2 8:00 HENRY KAISER (USA) Headliner -2 8:45 ERDEM HAVICIOGLU (Turkey) Headliner -1 9:30 ARILD ANDERSEN (Norway) Headliner -2 10:15 Improvisational Trio with Henry Kaiser, Rick Walker and Arild Andersen -2 Looperlative demonstrations between sets by Bill Walker SATURDAY, October 20th schedule stage right = -1 stage left = -2 1:00 Peter Cor -2 1:30 Craig McCoullough -1 2:00 Chris Roberts -2 2:30 CYPOD-1 3:00 Chris Cohn -2 3:30 Matt Davignon -1 4:00 Kevin Kissinger -2 4:30 Aaron Leese (technology premier)-1 5:00 Rick Walker - 2 5:30 DINNER BREAK: 7:20 MAYORS PRESENTATIONL: EMILY REILLY presents proclamations to the Headlining Artists and officially declares "International Live Looping Day; in the city of Santa Cruz 7:30 FABIO ANILE (Italy) Headliner -2 8:00 Bill Walker -1 8:30 Randolf Arriola (Singapore) featured performer -2 9:00 Per Boysen (Sweden) -1 9:30 Genie - 2 10:00 China Painting -1 10:30 Barry Cleveland -2 11:00 Dustbunnies (Duke Sexton) -1 11:30 Mojow and the Vibration Army - 2 SUNDAY, October 21st schedule: for more information (including venue, etc.) go to www.y2kloopfest.com stage right = -1 stage left = -2 1:30 Bob Amstadt -1 2:00 Harry Weinberg -2 2:30 Glenn Smith -1 3:00 Addamantium the Plumber -2 3:30 JD Devros-1 4:00 Greg Williams -2 4:30 Michael Klobuchar featured performer -1 5:00 Gary Regina -2 6:00 DINNER BREAK 7:30 LEANDER REININGHAUS (Germany) HEADLINER -2 8:00 Carl Weingarten -1 8:30 Krispen Hartung featured performer-2 9:00 Craig Green -1 9:30 Mark Hamburg-2 10:00 Cyoakha -1 10:30 Daniel Thomas -2 11:00 Matthias Grob (Switzerland/Brazil)- 1 MONDAY, October 22nd schedule: 1 p.m. Annual Loopers Brunch Walnut Street Cafe 106 Walnut Avenue (one half block west of the Pacific Garden Mall) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 10:08:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10CC63BED2; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:08:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <023001c81238$03897df0$6501a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: BRAIN FART Y2K7 SCHEDULE CHANGE rev 15.0 Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 03:08:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:08:28 +0000 (UTC) Oh, pardon my late night brain fart..............I accidentally switched the times for Chinapainting and Genie on Saturday evening on the last schedule In actuality, Chinapainting (our featured performers) will go on at 9:30 and Genie will go on at 10:00 Saturday night. thanks for catching that Jim! Also, Joe Rut cannot perform so I will perform in his place at 5:30 on Saturday afternoon. I've driven to the bay area so much in the last couple of days that I"m a little brain dead. If I start droolling as MC for the festival this weekend, please take pity on me, okay? Rick ps Here we go!!!!!!!!!!!! FINAL SCHEDULE rev 15.0 Y2K7 INTERNATIONAL LIVE LOOPING FESTIVAL made possible by a grant from the Cultural Council of Santa Cruz, monetary contributions from Looperlative, Universal Audio, private individuals and the gift of performances by all involved. The Singapore Cultural Arts Council has sponsored Randolf Arriola. for more information (including venue, etc.) go to www.y2kloopfest.com FRIDAY, October 19th schedule: stage right = -1 stage left = -2 8:00 HENRY KAISER (USA) Headliner -2 8:45 ERDEM HELVACIOGLU (Turkey) Headliner -1 9:30 ARILD ANDERSEN (Norway) Headliner -2 10:15 Improvisational Trio with Henry Kaiser, Rick Walker and Arild Andersen -2 Looperlative demonstrations between sets by Bill Walker SATURDAY, October 20th schedule stage right = -1 stage left = -2 1:00 Peter Cor -2 1:30 Craig McCoullough -1 2:00 Chris Roberts -2 2:30 CYPOD-1 3:00 Chris Cohn -2 3:30 Matt Davignon -1 4:00 Kevin Kissinger -2 4:30 Aaron Leese (technology premier)-1 5:00 Rick Walker - 2 5:30 DINNER BREAK: 7:20 MAYORS PRESENTATIONL: EMILY REILLY presents proclamations to the Headlining Artists and officially declares "International Live Looping Day; in the city of Santa Cruz 7:30 FABIO ANILE (Italy) Headliner -2 8:00 Bill Walker -1 8:30 Randolf Arriola (Singapore) featured performer -2 9:00 Per Boysen (Sweden) -1 9:30 Chinapainting- 2 10:00 Genie -1 10:30 Barry Cleveland -2 11:00 Dustbunnies (Duke Sexton) -1 11:30 Mojow and the Vibration Army - 2 SUNDAY, October 21st schedule: for more information (including venue, etc.) go to www.y2kloopfest.com stage right = -1 stage left = -2 1:30 Bob Amstadt -1 2:00 Harry Weinberg -2 2:30 Glenn Smith -1 3:00 Addamantium the Plumber -2 3:30 JD Devros-1 4:00 Greg Williams -2 4:30 Michael Klobuchar featured performer -1 5:00 Gary Regina -2 6:00 DINNER BREAK 7:30 LEANDER REININGHAUS (Germany) HEADLINER -2 8:00 Carl Weingarten -1 8:30 Krispen Hartung featured performer-2 9:00 Craig Green -1 9:30 Mark Hamburg-2 10:00 Cyoakha -1 10:30 Daniel Thomas -2 11:00 Matthias Grob (Switzerland/Brazil)- 1 MONDAY, October 22nd schedule: 1 p.m. Annual Loopers Brunch Walnut Street Cafe 106 Walnut Avenue (one half block west of the Pacific Garden Mall) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 12:35:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F2F73BEC1; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:35:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 530 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:35:09 UTC Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:27:35 -0400 From: rick To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The trend these days for the EDP?? Message-ID: <20071019122735.GA4661@monkeyman.funkytown> References: <20071018185125.GA12565@SillyBoy.zoominternet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20071018185125.GA12565@SillyBoy.zoominternet.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Spam-Score: 0.00 () [Tag at 15.00] X-CanItPRO-Stream: outgoing X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 24.154.1.26 Resent-Message-ID: <7jUMTD.A.LjC.-RKGHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:35:10 +0000 (UTC) Great to hear the responses. Seems about where I am at still. Don't want to sell my EDP, it just helps me create so much easier than my laptop. BUT, the powerbook/ableton setup I have can do some nice things. I have been working on a mix of the 2 lately, but will probably just sit down and figure out what I really want to do performance wise first - The only thing I haven't tried is sooperlooper/ableton yet. Used to work with it a few years back though on a linux machine. Thanks all On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 02:51:25PM -0400, rick wrote: > > I was looking to get back into my acoustic looping project again > and was wondering about using my EDP or moving more into the laptop > side of things, which got me to thinking or wondering - > > For the most part is the EDP still being widely used or is the laptop > made good strides in replacing it pretty much?? > > For me, I still prefer to work with the EDP, even though my laptop > is alot more versatile, but I end up spending most of my time > figuring, tweaking or whatever with the computer :O( > > rick > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 13:51:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B5493BED5; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:51:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <17612.167.83.10.20.1192801907.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: <20071019122735.GA4661@monkeyman.funkytown> References: <20071018185125.GA12565@SillyBoy.zoominternet.net> <20071019122735.GA4661@monkeyman.funkytown> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 09:51:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: The trend these days for the EDP?? From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32166 32167] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:51:55 +0000 (UTC) Still doing the EDP thang. I was thinking laptop as well but performance wise the EDP is still more stage friendly for me. But now that I smashed a couple pots on my unit, I've had to boomerang stuff and am figuring out if maybe the EDP is on its way out too....I mean, I love what the EDP can do-but on stage I can do everything with a boomerang except for loop feedback (which I use the roller pedal for instead but it's not the same-just an onstage fix). So the EDP gives me more flexibility in the studio if nothing else. Good luck with the decision! ~peace~ > On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 02:51:25PM -0400, rick wrote: >> >> I was looking to get back into my acoustic looping project again >> and was wondering about using my EDP or moving more into the laptop >> side of things, which got me to thinking or wondering - >> >> For the most part is the EDP still being widely used or is the laptop >> made good strides in replacing it pretty much?? >> >> For me, I still prefer to work with the EDP, even though my laptop >> is alot more versatile, but I end up spending most of my time >> figuring, tweaking or whatever with the computer :O( >> >> rick >> >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 14:51:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F2F73BEDC; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:51:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: midifriedchicken@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The trend these days for the EDP?? Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:51:25 +0000 Message-Id: <101920071451.28026.4718C46C000D212A00006D7A2216525806020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWlkaWZyaWVkY2hpY2tlbkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_28026_1192805485_0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:51:27 +0000 (UTC) --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_28026_1192805485_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Laptop all the way. Im using Ableton/SooperLooper on a Mac 2.4 PBP. It took some time and energy to work out the bugs and get a usable and stable template, but it's so worth it. Some advantages: Tunes can have any number of effects, many that dont exist in the hardware world, and all be tempo synced perfectly and in stereo with the ability to go to surround as well. Super small rig: Instrument, Interface, Laptop, PA Speakers, Midi Pedalboard. Basically 3 cords, 4 if you count the midi cable. I save eq settings for various clubs and bars I play. I just drag the EQ preset over and they are perfect every time I go back. I can use Itunes in between sets, or play Halo, or pay bills. So many more things are at your fingertips, like recorded clips of percussion, pads or vocals. You can record your performances easily. It has opened up so many possibilities, I sometimes get overwhelmed. MFC -------------- Original message -------------- From: mike@michaelplishka.com > Still doing the EDP thang. I was thinking laptop as well but performance > wise the EDP is still more stage friendly for me. But now that I smashed > a couple pots on my unit, I've had to boomerang stuff and am figuring out > if maybe the EDP is on its way out too....I mean, I love what the EDP can > do-but on stage I can do everything with a boomerang except for loop > feedback (which I use the roller pedal for instead but it's not the > same-just an onstage fix). So the EDP gives me more flexibility in the > studio if nothing else. > > Good luck with the decision! > > ~peace~ > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 02:51:25PM -0400, rick wrote: > >> > >> I was looking to get back into my acoustic looping project again > >> and was wondering about using my EDP or moving more into the laptop > >> side of things, which got me to thinking or wondering - > >> > >> For the most part is the EDP still being widely used or is the laptop > >> made good strides in replacing it pretty much?? > >> > >> For me, I still prefer to work with the EDP, even though my laptop > >> is alot more versatile, but I end up spending most of my time > >> figuring, tweaking or whatever with the computer :O( > >> > >> rick > >> > >> > >> > > > > > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_28026_1192805485_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    Laptop all the way. Im using Ableton/SooperLooper on a Mac 2.4 PBP. It took some time and energy to work out the bugs and get a usable and stable template, but it's so worth it.
    Some advantages:
     
    Tunes can have any number of effects, many that dont exist in the hardware world, and all be tempo synced perfectly and in stereo with the ability to go to surround as well.
     
    Super small rig: Instrument, Interface, Laptop, PA Speakers, Midi Pedalboard. Basically 3 cords, 4 if you count the midi cable.
     
    I save eq settings for various clubs and bars I play. I just drag the EQ preset over and they are perfect every time I go back.
     
    I can use Itunes in between sets, or play Halo, or pay bills.
     
    So many more things are at your fingertips, like recorded clips of percussion, pads or vocals.
     
    You can record your performances easily.
     
    It has opened up so many possibilities, I sometimes get overwhelmed.
     
    MFC
     
     
     
    -------------- Original message --------------
    From: mike@michaelplishka.com

    > Still doing the EDP thang. I was thinking laptop as well but performance
    > wise the EDP is still more stage friendly for me. But now that I smashed
    > a couple pots on my unit, I've had to boomerang stuff and am figuring out
    > if maybe the EDP is on its way out too....I mean, I love what the EDP can
    > do-but on stage I can do everything with a boomerang except for loop
    > feedback (which I use the roller pedal for instead but it's not the
    > same-just an onstage fix). So the EDP gives me more flexibility in the
    > studio if nothing else.
    >
    > Good luck with the decision!
    >
    > ~peace~
    >
    > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 02:51:25PM -0400, rick wrote:
    > >>
    > >> I was looking to get back into my acous tic looping project again
    > >> and was wondering about using my EDP or moving more into the laptop
    > >> side of things, which got me to thinking or wondering -
    > >>
    > >> For the most part is the EDP still being widely used or is the laptop
    > >> made good strides in replacing it pretty much??
    > >>
    > >> For me, I still prefer to work with the EDP, even though my laptop
    > >> is alot more versatile, but I end up spending most of my time
    > >> figuring, tweaking or whatever with the computer :O(
    > >>
    > >> rick
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >
    > >
    >
    --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_28026_1192805485_0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 17:01:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9205D3BEE4; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:56:44 -0400 From: "David Kirkdorffer" Subject: edp problem - no output. To: Message-id: <000801c81271$08205440$0affff0a@hppav> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <20071018185125.GA12565@SillyBoy.zoominternet.net> <20071019122735.GA4661@monkeyman.funkytown> <17612.167.83.10.20.1192801907.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:01:10 +0000 (UTC) I've been a happy user of EDPs for many years now. Recently, one of mine (Gibson / Beige) stopped working properly. There seems to be no output from it. Has anyone else experienced a similar malfunction. I don't remember reading about others having this problem, so I suspect it's just a random issue. Before I cart it off to some electronics guy who's never seen one of these before, I thought I'd ask here for any guidance / ideas. Many thanks. David From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 17:02:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 305753BEDE; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:02:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "nick@12testing.net" To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:02:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: ineko or akira? Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <4718F12F.27566.1FFCC24@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:02:33 +0000 (UTC) I'm struggling to find any kind of audio or video sample/demo of these products - does anyone know of any? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 17:26:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2FCB3BEDA; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:26:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <12087.167.83.10.20.1192814769.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: <000801c81271$08205440$0affff0a@hppav> References: <20071018185125.GA12565@SillyBoy.zoominternet.net> <20071019122735.GA4661@monkeyman.funkytown> <17612.167.83.10.20.1192801907.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> <000801c81271$08205440$0affff0a@hppav> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 13:26:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: edp problem - no output. From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32166 32167] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:26:19 +0000 (UTC) David, As I alluded to in another post, I have a similar problem. I've got output but barely. I think it's a busted potentiometer. Jiggle them and see if they're loose-they should be kind firmly locked in. It could be something else but I had a pot problem before...umm...that didn't sound right... Anyway, it's not that hard to fix but it takes time and patience. I currently have less of the former and am thinking of carting it off for a formal "once over" to the EDP folks at British Audio Service. Good luck and don't hesitate to contact me offline if need be. ~peace~ plish > I've been a happy user of EDPs for many years now. Recently, one of mine > (Gibson / Beige) stopped working properly. There seems to be no output > from > it. Has anyone else experienced a similar malfunction. I don't remember > reading about others having this problem, so I suspect it's just a random > issue. Before I cart it off to some electronics guy who's never seen one > of > these before, I thought I'd ask here for any guidance / ideas. > > Many thanks. > > David > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 17:36:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC02D3BEE8; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:36:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1360 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:36:15 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=9weJa7JEJ0dZ7dc65b7FzV5gpdOIBW1J4ibGGqhd/GY=; b=k0p3RGmX8ggHvZsW0KFhDufqeFtd2e6I5mN2YI5lGB6q45coI9bVWfcPNMk5wWZbOafbUJqJ6lCGVKScfnjJxm4vkFsgS8Z437nrrzGIeDDgGVNFXyniuj6TQiIh5XKkfDqpBAQ7zitnT264vPS2DFqvCKyg1J0gNPFi+rgkpGI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=uriW9ZUiNAp5mR3ts7KRDRofWhtRd43lAWfhziMq8VHWIdXgvnbla3B/5sYU34ZYRWuZSZ1UHwTZTCwwYKV7XsVzPeX9rsNLnkEDnefCczqrWLNz+jOaCYVIfG4NrkmvPWk6ZXcq/kCt9lmrCkVvzdhulmCXXVmnrgsOEzAYb5A= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:07:15 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: edp problem - no output. In-Reply-To: <000801c81271$08205440$0affff0a@hppav> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20071018185125.GA12565@SillyBoy.zoominternet.net> <20071019122735.GA4661@monkeyman.funkytown> <17612.167.83.10.20.1192801907.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> <000801c81271$08205440$0affff0a@hppav> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:36:15 +0000 (UTC) Assuming you've done the reset all parameters and know that your actual audio path isn't the problem, this is the place that knows how to fix EDP's: http://britishaudioservice.com/ TH On 10/19/07, David Kirkdorffer wrote: > I've been a happy user of EDPs for many years now. Recently, one of mine > (Gibson / Beige) stopped working properly. There seems to be no output from > it. Has anyone else experienced a similar malfunction. I don't remember > reading about others having this problem, so I suspect it's just a random > issue. Before I cart it off to some electronics guy who's never seen one of > these before, I thought I'd ask here for any guidance / ideas. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 18:48:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 852013BEE1; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2308 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:48:53 UTC Message-ID: <62594.66.162.182.97.1192817122.squirrel@www.redsunsoundroom.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20071018185125.GA12565@SillyBoy.zoominternet.net> <20071019122735.GA4661@monkeyman.funkytown> <17612.167.83.10.20.1192801907.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> <000801c81271$08205440$0affff0a@hppav> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:05:22 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: edp problem - no output. From: "p koniuto" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: peter@RedSunSoundroom.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - jade.liquidweb.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32042 32042] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - RedSunSoundroom.com Resent-Message-ID: <2dbWeD.A.GHC.VwPGHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:48:53 +0000 (UTC) David, Travis wrote: > Assuming you've done the reset all parameters and know that your > actual audio path isn't the problem, this is the place that knows how > to fix EDP's: > > http://britishaudioservice.com/ At risk of breaking listserv netiquette, i heartily second Travis's recommendation here. This is Shane, formerly of Gibson. Excellent customer service, reasonably priced, fast turnaround. You send it, and you pretty much know you're going to get a working EDP back. Peter ______________________________ Peter Koniuto Creative Recordist - Composer Red Sun Soundroom Niskayuna, NY U.S.A. AVAILAIBLE NOW: Pseudophone's "Reach" A free EP from Negative Sound Institute http://www.negativesoundinstitute.com/ http://www.RedSunSoundroom.com peter AT RedSunSoundroom.com ______________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 19 19:35:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56F3F3BEEA; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:35:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 408 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:35:33 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=/CQ/rIpX5TS/i9PD4PXg5yCIMn6H69mzSvyhOCeu/Sg=; b=Poc5iga4DSW97/a2q7myNTx3Vrvr+IHAww3IhLOuTQZBigy4//Elp9jhzbm38ZM/qqNg5FKJx7UXpHGI/98cIFDtEr+w0Tl6FYZt7vdgP9k+ZxajMWatol0NFMyYeUQ/FoyoQ6eDg8w+Z1SmUOv0KAEFK5bIa+IEja9HATxQWdc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=C1T+zUe5e4W9S0fiviMjlwBhgaqsSytPnbN6mo1svCAq+MZhglLMkeHLKy1XFF9tbmzEMhNOPXHoijr1YOByd/q0TzAVfOZtq6PX4jzDEd9YH3f8J7MfFuhuopxx5IXGr9CggA08RaLsof6+I+UwQxHSMqZtnuVjlWnz4GsFuxY= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0710191228n2400cee7x121650625c2ca9ab@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:28:43 -0700 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The trend these days ! In-Reply-To: <852408.891.qm@web26206.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4395_5165315.1192822123472" References: <20071018185125.GA12565@SillyBoy.zoominternet.net> <852408.891.qm@web26206.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 19:35:34 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4395_5165315.1192822123472 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I can hear on his new record that he uses Ableton Live a lot in the studio as well. (I guess you're hinting at using software as "the trend"?) Per On 10/19/07, rune fagereng wrote: > > > Hi ! > > I was at a Eivind Aarset gig some weeks ago. He used to use Eventide and > Repeater - but this time he used Mac - Sooperlooper and Ableton. > > Best regards Rune F. > > *rick * skrev: > > > I was looking to get back into my acoustic looping project again > and was wondering about using my EDP or moving more into the laptop > side of things, which got me to thinking or wondering - > > For the most part is the EDP still being widely used or is the laptop > made good strides in replacing it pretty much?? > > For me, I still prefer to work with the EDP, even though my laptop > is alot more versatile, but I end up spending most of my time > figuring, tweaking or whatever with the computer :O( > > rick > > > > > > > ------=_Part_4395_5165315.1192822123472 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I can hear on his new record that he uses Ableton Live a lot in the studio as well. (I guess you're hinting at using software as "the trend"?)

    Per


    On 10/19/07, rune fagereng <rune_fagereng@yahoo.no> wrote:
     
    Hi !
     
    I was at a Eivind Aarset gig some weeks ago. He used to use Eventide and Repeater - but this time he used Mac - Sooperlooper and Ableton.
     
    Best regards Rune F.  

    rick <bs@tanawana.com> skrev:

    I was looking to get back into my acoustic looping project again
    and was wondering about using my EDP or moving more into the laptop
    side of things, which got me to thinking or wondering -

    For the most part is the EDP still being widely used or is the laptop
    made good strides in replacing it pretty much??

    For me, I still prefer to work with the EDP, even though my laptop
    is alot more versatile, but I end up spending most of my time
    figuring, tweaking or whatever with the computer :O(

    rick






    ------=_Part_4395_5165315.1192822123472-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 09:24:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17B063BEF3; Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:24:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 392 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:24:30 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Lfn5PhLOkCtpmd+rdDG0nHkgfMpx+IRvHJq8r3BzSgk=; b=anOLrQf1AnCN/7O4gWGTtOy3gPCACv5YVSJEi9Z4K5T1J/rKz/gheOOqZY8qA2iCsypNg8BTGbotaxhUD3V0yhnPG4V/TT3mxB9TBlxLzAXK/C+ABkhsupKcJM61Jjlz7HA7L4d6+lwAjl3klh+I3nNxntM9l5EklmxW3sByh5k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CDwH+i3Rt9QquPj/CekXX+6MKx3Fr0Tx422eUW/BX5o5ZfWndz2JUzGM9B7PYgr8ZeyMq3Xupm3803xOfGNtWAA9AeGvtUZcKQlYU33l22zqMw5jsuElwMesXt/3FBt9IpKDgsJiriF6SCMIoLHLRvEUYGtgmYGiSHWn9sj/EJo= Message-ID: <4719C7C2.6040404@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 11:17:54 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Wiernowolski?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (X11/20070806) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: DD-20 Tempo bug or feature Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6yjx1.A.gHB.OlcGHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:24:30 +0000 (UTC) When you change the effect mode twice (by rotating Mode knob or pushing right pedal) the sound stops. I've just noticed that when you push Tempo button a couple of times it starts playing again part of what was recorded earlier. It seems like a bug (the memory is not cleared when switching), but it may be a feature, as it allows you to regain control over previous, disengaged loop. Another interesting feature of the Tempo is the ability to multiply/divide loop. You may set it to 4 sec./quarter note then switch the tempo to whole note and you have a 16 sec. loop built from the initial 4 sec. material (unlike Ted Killian's Time Trip). The negative is that stepping through shorter times distorts the audio a bit (within switching time, so the faster you do it the better). Then you may divide the loop by setting the tempo to half note (8 sec.) etc. Michal From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 13:29:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 509AD3BEF8; Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 616 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:29:33 UTC User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.5.060620 Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:19:15 -0400 Subject: GEAR SALE From: nycthinker To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: GEAR SALE Thread-Index: AcgTG8+3DjOYWX8PEdy6fgARJNbomg== Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3275716756_223016" Resent-Message-ID: <4XsFOD.A.XI.9KgGHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:29:34 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3275716756_223016 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Boomerang Plus =AD 4 min phrase sampler $375 Digitech Jam Man + FS3X footswitch +128MB CF card $275 SansAmp Acoustic DI $140 M-Audio Keystation 49e $65 RAM for G4 - 2x256MB $80 All equipment in excellent used condition. Each piece comes with power cabl= e & manual.=20 Pick up from midtown, NYC (cash only on pickup) or let=B9s arrange shipping. additional photos here: http://www.iamjen.com/gearsale/=20 --B_3275716756_223016 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable GEAR SALE Boomerang Plus – 4 min phrase sampler $375
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Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:14:23 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI In-Reply-To: <788588.31290.qm@web34513.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 31361-STANDARD Message-Id: <8C9E15C2D3EF98F-3B8-6DCF@Webmail-mg09.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 64.12.142.157 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 18:14:27 +0000 (UTC) where are you in ohio? http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ www.ct-collective.com -----Original Message----- From: mesquamacus@yahoo.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 8:30 pm Subject: Other Loop Festivals? I'm somewhat new to the list...and some would say to looping as well. Forgive my ignorance in case this has been discussed, but... I know there is a loop fest in Cali this week, but are there any closer to Ohio? I'd love to perform live more often, but there is a distinct lack of loop friendly venues were I currently reside. _________________________________________________________________________ ___________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 20 19:24:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA60F3BEF3; Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:24:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=1LsK7uurxcCUY3HGG3bVxDlQqUxybQI6VGfPajv26joZ9H3ywQ9882CK8VZQhpcHcxGR/E4UPaAmwIr1ZIP1w10joUEOe6OiU0IjIepmtXBOTIfGDFOEs9X9uTpk7M52Pm/2TDIkAhUS7Kh2sOo5Xr5z+J7C8iZD+H2tgmFPI8w=; X-YMail-OSG: yQ.kUwsVM1lKpWN1Kd7QpZ9So_7XReYi3yvjJQN8K9V4B8OAJv5uPeFllLIcDORHbzHBtkRnN5_X3cYucID0blTZd9mKgkvRE6ha30mM8cxQ5rg22IWivWzn_8UtEg-- Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:24:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Subject: Re: Other Loop Festivals? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <8C9E15C2D3EF98F-3B8-6DCF@Webmail-mg09.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <394946.5885.qm@web34504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:24:15 +0000 (UTC) I'm in Toledo...I've managed to get a few shows going. no festivals however. 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To: Message-id: <000a01c81352$ff834c60$0affff0a@hppav> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1478 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1478 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <20071018185125.GA12565@SillyBoy.zoominternet.net> <20071019122735.GA4661@monkeyman.funkytown> <17612.167.83.10.20.1192801907.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> <000801c81271$08205440$0affff0a@hppav> <62594.66.162.182.97.1192817122.squirrel@www.redsunsoundroom.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:52:11 +0000 (UTC) This is very helpful. I'm very dubious about where to take a device like this. Thank you! ----- Original Message ----- From: "p koniuto" To: Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:05 PM Subject: Re: edp problem - no output. > > David, > > Travis wrote: > > > Assuming you've done the reset all parameters and know that your > > actual audio path isn't the problem, this is the place that knows how > > to fix EDP's: > > > > http://britishaudioservice.com/ > > At risk of breaking listserv netiquette, i heartily second > Travis's recommendation here. > > This is Shane, formerly of Gibson. Excellent customer service, > reasonably priced, fast turnaround. 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     Ben Coroma.
    FROM (ADB) OUAGADOUGOU BURKINA-FASO.
    GOD BLESSINGS,PROTECTIONS AND GUIDIANCE TO YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY. 
     
       (FILL THIS FORM BELLOW PLEASE AND RESEND IT TO ME).
     
    1) Your Full Name.............................
    2) Your Age.......................................
    3) Marital Status................................
    4) Your Cell Phone Number…………..
    5) Your Fax Number……………….....
    6) Your Country………………..............
    7) Your Occupation............................
    8) Sex................................................
    9) Your Religion.................................
    10) Your Private E-mail Adress...........
     
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    Last band show for 2007...

     

    DANCING = GOAT

    21 South Orange Avenue

    South Orange, NJ 07079

    (973) 275-9000

     

    7:30 pm / $10 cover

     

    WHITE = LIGHT = is:

     
    ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C813D3.E74E6180-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 15:55:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9E4B3BF00; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:55:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=GqYrUGKfUqtM+PACtrgLdfFGYr8iHWh1Bcc69D+QCCg=; b=Zmqi7hzls31VvF0mulW707qTmm63TRC+TWuVXjV1gmMdqGieyLyZ/twhYNPgqoBfbBdwkd1fOz0XZvBBwySjak1zOF/J/brDzwSKHzg9NZHC4v7I17q0eRCwLV/ydm8R63Wc56Bz02IZkcLwVOGIXUQ3S6UdGKz0ofgKkM3FLhI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=gHXlVDIRD0KYP56OyWg5fPurASaDkgdxhk7jaiKHFoGFVwwNqVBGvY1xykriIbUaA3pCG2I8TJfFrDmxXYAFo3aY3BHYFb9/4dOyB/HoMACtuFJPPEDx82oFTijsQNxXRgN5zCrLnH0DKU4TOnMjcIQTM3msO/o6KstSUK72Yog= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 08:55:40 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP fuse In-Reply-To: <234574.81171.qm@web38609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <234574.81171.qm@web38609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:55:43 +0000 (UTC) 250mA 250V Auto supply stores are good places to look. On 10/21/07, L.A. Angulo wrote: > Hi gang, > I accidentaly blew a fuse of my EDP,ive been updating > my amercan powered rack lately to european power and > forgot to change the power cosumption switch(not > enough coffee this morning:-( > anyway it completely dead and i hope this is the > problem can anybody tell me what type it is before i > get it i dont find any info in the manual and i cant > see the specs in the fuse. > thanx! > Luis > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > From service@eBay.com Sun Oct 21 17:14:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 727 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:14:42 UTC Received: from host150.host150-server.com (host150-server.com [67.55.38.38]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB3F3BEF7; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:14:41 +0000 (UTC) X-ClientAddr: 82.134.23.34 Received: from User (34.82-134-23.bkkb.no [82.134.23.34]) (authenticated bits=0) by host150.host150-server.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id l9LGm0GK018775; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 12:48:01 -0400 Message-Id: <200710211648.l9LGm0GK018775@host150.host150-server.com> Reply-To: From: "service@eBay.com" Subject: {Blocked Content} Question about Item -- Respond Now Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 18:48:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-yoursite-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-yoursite-MailScanner: Found to be infected X-MailScanner-From: service@ebay.com To: undisclosed-recipients:; Warning: This message has had one or more attachments removed Warning: (the entire message). 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At Sun Oct 21 13:05:39 2007 the content filters said: MailScanner: Found a script in HTML message Note to Help Desk: Look on the yoursite MailScanner in /var/spool/MailScanner/quarantine/20071021 (message l9LGm0GK018775). -- Postmaster MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 17:19:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89C553BF02; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:19:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Gz9PxBZcYxsUkfg4f64aZW2prrwCG2ZDGvLyZzo0Hc0+3wGeANJA8sVuuL1XbKFKbMbZiqd0EZkVCnQqafvFvs+ia2bz2XVOiOCARVc6y28o5CnYdedYecIxbFRuOf+3bjQzp4yXjmBMlmlkjLv+1pZH36MlE61LzXZbcAjHRE8=; X-YMail-OSG: RnQrnKEVM1kTRhPyr8cgcilOqZ2hKheUHgdRLnLtkUVcAfX12M2nlb0V0xe4Cf0A3T.zSnnCJgK11RarU6SD4um4Kuqd3ruGLAQwVn895R9ONJPDy_c- Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 10:19:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: EDP fuse To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <191522.68677.qm@web38611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <4_xovC.A.-HG.ro4GHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 17:19:39 +0000 (UTC) Thanx a million travis! peace Luis --- Travis Hartnett wrote: > 250mA > 250V > > > Auto supply stores are good places to look. > > > On 10/21/07, L.A. Angulo > wrote: > > Hi gang, > > I accidentaly blew a fuse of my EDP,ive been > updating > > my amercan powered rack lately to european power > and > > forgot to change the power cosumption switch(not > > enough coffee this morning:-( > > anyway it completely dead and i hope this is the > > problem can anybody tell me what type it is before > i > > get it i dont find any info in the manual and i > cant > > see the specs in the fuse. > > thanx! > > Luis > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Seems real cool!=20 Any feedback is appreciated! tia, Jeff http://www.ehx.com/ehx2/Default.asp?f=3D%2FCatalog%2F01_New_Products%2F09= _2880&q=3Df ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C813EF.A2D6B270 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Hi ya'll,
      Does anyone have experience = with this=20 unit? Seems real cool!
    Any feedback is = appreciated!
    tia,
    Jeff
     
    http://www.ehx.com/ehx2/Default.asp?f=3D%2FCatal= og%2F01_New_Products%2F09_2880&q=3Df
    ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C813EF.A2D6B270-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 22:07:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 672153BF01; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:07:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 398 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:07:43 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=eVqT9R91UIztRQgg8sYcjFq51p74FOtp4WewZZkltL3IUXedtFIgQt3MwIONACaiO8UKNeI2kdwuyoDVXd0IIFIpmKooa1KkQVhWGYWPg1orxgLK/1WRBN3iD9gdW6OzHTYChhHv0GQnb+uhJXFIN9PLiCDRzvl5CJiafZY6GXQ=; X-YMail-OSG: xU226rIVM1ngtA8DlYssNsPCdNsY7zJ7X3KAyqdliQt1j4dnyEDxC5_4MyKF5WUNigu4EjvjiX0lR4ofi_5E3NRz4I8PbOjIga9FZXbBS2o.08YGVzxmMpokI8s31BVzoOPgGF9K0uzab3U- Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:01:03 -0700 (PDT) From: J E Subject: RE: simple mobius foot control To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <657593.45133.qm@web56905.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:07:43 +0000 (UTC) I found an old MidiWizard RFX. 100 bucks, sends program change data and can plug in volume pedals for control data. Does mobius pretty easy, but the buttons aren't as easy to push as a FCB. Don't know the availability, but you might find one cheap on ebay. Cheers, Jesse --- Lorenzo Orlandini wrote: > Those are Great British pounds, so it's about 185 > euro, plus shipping. > > I think I will stick with my FCB1010 :) > > > > > From: skeptikalist@gmail.com > > Subject: Re: simple mobius foot control > > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 14:41:35 -0700 > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > > > > On Oct 16, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Lorenzo Orlandini > wrote: > > > > > I found one here in Italy for 220euro (USD > 311.3) > > > > > > Here it is for 129.99 euros: > > http://www.dv247.com/invt/37005/ > > and they have an education site source that is > cheaper yet if you can > > claim an education exemption. > > > > > > BobC > > > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j > > http://www.youtube.com/tynego > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Crea i tuoi biglietti da visita con Windows Live > Messenger! > http://www.messenger.it/biglietti_da_visita.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 21 22:09:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68E533BF0F; Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:09:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <471BCE15.9030706@servingpeace.com> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 15:09:25 -0700 From: Sam Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EH 2880 References: <000e01c81411$2a587960$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <000e01c81411$2a587960$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:09:27 +0000 (UTC) Jeff Duke wrote: > Hi ya'll, > Does anyone have experience with this unit? Seems real cool! > Any feedback is appreciated! > tia, > Jeff > > http://www.ehx.com/ehx2/Default.asp?f=%2FCatalog%2F01_New_Products%2F09_2880&q=f > I haven't used it myself, but I did the sound at an event for a friend's duo who was using this. He uses it to blend and loop acoustic guitar, wooden flute, tablas and more. He got a very nice sound out of it with very good volume balance. I can't comment much more than that except to say that he seem to like it a lot and it sounded good. He was originally thinking of using an EDP, but instead he went with the 2880. I would be interested to hear more details from any others that have used this looper. - Sam From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 00:46:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F30F33BF10; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:47:39 -0400 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: Re: DD-20 Tempo bug or feature To: =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Wiernowolski?= , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <002401c81445$311c5b20$261bbe18@oemcomputer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <4719C7C2.6040404@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 00:46:36 +0000 (UTC) This is so cool! I can't wait to pull out my DD-20s and play with this "glitch." I never used the Tempo function, so I never noticed it could double or quadruple a loop's length, or spew out previously "lost" loops. I might have to update the DD-20 entry on the LD "Tools" page. Thanks Michal Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large www.thecoyote.org coyotelk@optonline.net "The volume knob on your telepathy is your morality." - Stephen Gaskin, The Farm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 02:26:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD5C73BF10; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 02:26:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: <018c01c8122f$d9b48b30$6501a8c0@dayglogreen> In-Reply-To: <018c01c8122f$d9b48b30$6501a8c0@dayglogreen> Subject: Y2K7 - thanks to Rick and the performers! Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:26:41 -0700 Message-ID: <001701c81452$fbaf42a0$f30dc7e0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgSMTTiBH6EI1IASvy1ZK6/X4nUVwCIVHQw Content-Language: en-us X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: D0c9b04f70000932f.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 02:26:30 +0000 (UTC) I just got back from Y2K7. Had to leave Sunday morning, but I got to see all the performers Friday and Saturday. WOW !! The music was fabulous! Thanks to all the performers and *especially* to Rick and his friends for all their hard work! -Qua From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 02:40:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BEEA3BF10; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 02:40:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 688 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 02:40:06 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000e01c81411$2a587960$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> References: <000e01c81411$2a587960$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 22:15:12 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: EH 2880 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1019102412==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120c0a8cbd36cc8a16db05d96adb63a12043dbe96e2fbfbfaa4350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.253.94 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 02:40:07 +0000 (UTC) --============_-1019102412==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Yes, and if this was a proper online FORUM it would be a simple matter to SEARCH... apparently you can do a search of the archives, wherever they reside... >Hi ya'll, > Does anyone have experience with this unit? Seems real cool! >Any feedback is appreciated! >tia, >Jeff > >http://www.ehx.com/ehx2/Default.asp?f=%2FCatalog%2F01_New_Products%2F09_2880&q=f -- ... http://www.zmix.net --============_-1019102412==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: EH 2880


    Yes, and if this was a proper online FORUM it would be a simple matter to SEARCH... apparently you can do a search of the archives, wherever they reside...


    Hi ya'll,
      Does anyone have experience with this unit? Seems real cool!
    Any feedback is appreciated!
    tia,
    Jeff
     
    http://www.ehx.com/ehx2/Default.asp?f=%2FCatalog%2F01_New_Products%2F09_2880&q=f


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    http://www.zmix.net
    --============_-1019102412==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 03:08:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4EEB3BF10; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 03:08:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01a601c81458$cc1d50d0$0100000a@bobdell> Reply-To: "Bob Amstadt" From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <018c01c8122f$d9b48b30$6501a8c0@dayglogreen> <001701c81452$fbaf42a0$f30dc7e0$@com> Subject: Re: Y2K7 - thanks to Rick and the performers! Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:08:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 03:08:31 +0000 (UTC) > Thanks to all the performers and *especially* to Rick and his friends for > all their hard work! I second the motion. It was an unbelievable event. It was really spectacular to see such wonderful musicians. It was a real treat seeing people from this list playing. I was fortunate to see Per Boysen, Henry Kaiser and Bill Walker. I really appreciate the effort that musicians made to actually be at this festival. It is just incredible that so many people traveled so far to be here. Big thanks to Rick and his crew for organizing this and a big thanks to the musicians that put their time, energy and money into being here. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 07:16:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D29F3BF12; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 07:16:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 417 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 07:16:29 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=cSqt5iUFz3WHbfkVl560wAEkj/YF5BUrnmtJw+bX3k0=; b=Vx9u+F+4R3sV+LzoxGoTQjkyOSv7IV4eUhvdC7Hj1g2psSVhyom9vRJlomWULcZ9931Qz2M6vxyLuIPDMBcqou1P0LzGEtu8Mks3FLkcOapGyf8462K4m80wlo2XnLAI/i0tOTph2ER0dZhfGBUFWiGeLZDJNbleY+PDYXSUW04= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=V3moI5fAuTU7xlY+ucbyERtuOZYBBUqncPJZdXIR2ETsA9VqtO7yvxxPOK97pphqwesigdisoSmdnDxJcueEKzyawliEd+TBBQpX32rUlNDyku/5u/wAfkzLBkPniLd95lqEnEOPvrHL7dZoum6fNI1av+OVLel3VXKTQzMMVzs= Message-ID: <26ba8d120710220009w2ad88b86i58c482df90a545e7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 03:09:30 -0400 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight Subject: OT: soundproofing my Mac? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4be810b793a5b2b7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 07:16:30 +0000 (UTC) My Mac Quad G5 would have been the greatest machine ever except it's completely loud -- the fan goes on no matter what and trying everything online was hopeless. I've tried for a year to fix it and nothing working. I've been looking to find a case to put it in that will suppress the sound but everything I search for, I find PC-style cases that you build a computer in, not a larger case that I can put the machine in. Any ideas as to where to find such a thing? -- /t http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 09:57:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D5423BF1A; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:57:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <471DC51B.8040408@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:55:39 +0200 From: van Sinn Reply-To: vansinn@post.cybercity.dk Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: soundproofing my Mac? References: <26ba8d120710220009w2ad88b86i58c482df90a545e7@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <26ba8d120710220009w2ad88b86i58c482df90a545e7@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:57:08 +0000 (UTC) Tom Ritchford wrote: > My Mac Quad G5 would have been the greatest machine ever except it's > completely loud -- the fan goes on no matter what and trying > everything online was hopeless. I've tried for a year to fix it and > nothing working. > > I've been looking to find a case to put it in that will suppress the > sound but everything I search for, I find PC-style cases that you > build a computer in, not a larger case that I can put the machine in. > > Any ideas as to where to find such a thing? Sound-proofing boxes does exist; be creative with your Google searches.. You may be able to silence your G5. It has lotsa slots on it's sides, letting noise out. In car accessery stores you can buy self-adhesive foam pads which does a great job sucking fan and harddrive noises. Here in DK two versions are available. One is made of a somewhat dense multicolored material, which is good against rumble noises, and a softer gray pad which is good at sucking fan hiss and drive whining. the latter works better for computers. Simply cut it to size for i.e. the sides, buttom and top of the box, rip off the protective plactic foam and stick it to the surface. However, do ensure good airflow through the box. I don't remember how the front and rear of the G5 is layed out. IMO, a good box should have 120mm fans both front and rear. While I'm sure the G5 doesn't have this, hopefully it has decent venting holes/grill on the front and suitable fans on the rear. If not, you may have a problem when you cover the venting at the sides of the box with the foam stuff. Noisy harddrives (if they are so..) can be replaced. Fans can be replaced. When shopping look for the CFM/dBa params. The real problem is small (50/60/80mm) diameter PSU/CPU/box fans et al.. Pabst makes some of the best 9/12dBa 80mm fans, but they still have ball bearing noises. Mounted on rubber, they work fine. I simply glue them on using a thick layer of glue for diving wetsuits. Can be ripped-off again, so no problem.. Because the G4/5 series use PowerPC CPU's, the usual PC world heatsink replacement parts doesn't apply; here creativity is a must ;) I can solve most drive and fan issues in my G4 dual 800, but have to build some duct over the CPU module heatsink to fix the 50mm fan noise. A few examples of lownoise 120mm fans: http://studiedata.dk/shop/noctua-nf-s12-800-blaeser-6024p.html http://studiedata.dk/shop/noctua-nf-s12-1200-blaeser-5993p.html Yup, danish, so a few explanations; CFM/dBa.. should be understandable. They feature SSO-bearings (Self Stabilizing Oil pressure bearings). The dBa ratings are with/without the noise adaptor thingy. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 10:58:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A3513BF1D; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:58:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 720 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:58:16 UTC Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [83.100.225.182] X-Originating-Email: [phillwilson@hotmail.com] X-Sender: phillwilson@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: From: "phillip wilson" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Im Back + Repeater value Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:46:11 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Oct 2007 10:46:15.0415 (UTC) FILETIME=[C5154870:01C81498] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:58:17 +0000 (UTC) Just wanted to say a bit HI to all on here. I have posted on here under the name Lol C, Phill Wilson and Blackface over the years I have finally settled on MyOneManBand as a stage name and phillwilson for my email address so hopefully this will be the last time I have to re-introduce myself to the group...Hope you all had fun at the Loop Fest. I have been away due to EDP issues that where finally solved with a small cicular saw and a LOT of guts!! now back to two fully functional EDPs and in multiloop echoplex heaven finally (had them both about a year but never both working at the same time. anyways, now Im up and running I have decided that I no longer need my Repeater, I have buyer lined up but dont know what to ask, I want some money to put towards a Varix 600 and a drum Machine but have no idea what they are going for these days, its the first gen one (did the second ones come out?) and is in perfect working order. On another note, I would like to tell everyone what a good guy Shane at British Audio is...he gave me so much assistance with my EDP problem considering he is an engineer and obviously was telling me stuff that he usually charges for...Im in the UK so I couldnt use him but if you are stateside I would trust this guy with your babies!! anyways, good to be back Phill MyOneManBand _________________________________________________________________ The next generation of Hotmail is here! http://www.newhotmail.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 10:59:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1B213BF21; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:59:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=TtRsaH8FAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=BBkj1lNsAAAA:8 a=d3s395feAAAA:8 a=A5f78KDxXy7kgPJhivQA:9 a=_1ArP8kSB5W0FDEVQ70A:7 a=qiwIc9-7-36mfsPjukWxuABxZ8QA:4 a=OUKbW-zgSzYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=eZLSmJVMEtUA:10 a=EqWq-w3yM8DuqEeS_GMA:9 a=JwuepY8XnL0MLayogV0A:7 a=17Wvr47TP45SoiePswyeVutxvdcA:4 a=v6MMM96S_sUA:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp09.embarq.synacor.com smtp.mail=echohead@embarqmail.com; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp09.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=echohead@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp09.embarq.synacor.com: 71.48.241.17 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of embarqmail.com) Message-ID: <000c01c8149a$a9ec8bb0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <000e01c81411$2a587960$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: EH 2880 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 06:59:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C81479.223B2940" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:59:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C81479.223B2940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: EH 2880Good idea! I found this http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=3D3265# at http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200607/msg00552.html I still would like to hear from an owner of the unit but it still looks = cool. One loop per flash card is a bit of a limitation. From the video it was = hard to tell if you can switch=20 tracks without stopping. keep on looping, Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Charles Zwicky=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:15 PM Subject: Re: EH 2880 Yes, and if this was a proper online FORUM it would be a simple matter = to SEARCH... apparently you can do a search of the archives, wherever = they reside... Hi ya'll, Does anyone have experience with this unit? Seems real cool! Any feedback is appreciated! tia, Jeff = http://www.ehx.com/ehx2/Default.asp?f=3D%2FCatalog%2F01_New_Products%2F09= _2880&q=3Df --=20 ... http://www.zmix.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20 Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.5/1084 - Release Date: = 10/21/2007 3:09 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C81479.223B2940 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: EH 2880
    Good idea! I found this
    http:/= /www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=3D3265#
    at ht= tp://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200607/msg00552.html
    I still would like to hear from an = owner of the=20 unit but it still looks cool.
    One loop per flash card is a bit of a = limitation.=20 >From the video it was hard to tell if you can switch
     tracks without = stopping.
    keep on looping,
    Jeff
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 Charles=20 Zwicky
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
    Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 = 10:15=20 PM
    Subject: Re: EH 2880



    Yes, and if this was a proper online FORUM it would be a simple = matter to=20 SEARCH... apparently you can do a search of the archives, wherever = they=20 reside...


    Hi = ya'll,
      Does = anyone have=20 experience with this unit? Seems real cool!
    Any feedback is=20 appreciated!
    tia,
    Jeff
     
    http://www.ehx.com/ehx2/Default.asp= ?f=3D%2FCatalog%2F01_New_Products%2F09_2880&q=3Df 


    --=20
    ...
    http://www.zmix.net

    No virus found in this incoming message.
    Checked by AVG Free = Edition.
    Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.5/1084 - = Release Date:=20 10/21/2007 3:09 PM
    ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C81479.223B2940-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 12:34:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C1333BF1F; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:34:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000c01c8149a$a9ec8bb0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> References: <000e01c81411$2a587960$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <000c01c8149a$a9ec8bb0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 08:28:42 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: EH 2880 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1019066085==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120c0a8cbd36cc8a16d77e8710716231222cdcfa98ac350b77d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.253.94 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:34:06 +0000 (UTC) --============_-1019066085==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Well, I for one have written pages and pages on it... try this link: http://tinyurl.com/2znyy4 >Good idea! I found this >http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=3265# >at >http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200607/msg00552.html >I still would like to hear from an owner of the unit but it still looks cool. >One loop per flash card is a bit of a limitation. >From the video it >was hard to tell if you can switch > tracks without stopping. >keep on looping, >Jeff > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Charles Zwicky >To: >Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:15 PM >Subject: Re: EH 2880 > > > >Yes, and if this was a proper online FORUM it would be a simple >matter to SEARCH... apparently you can do a search of the archives, >wherever they reside... > > >>Hi ya'll, >> > Does anyone have experience with this unit? Seems real cool! > >Any feedback is appreciated! > >tia, > >Jeff > > > >http://www.ehx.com/ehx2/Default.asp?f=%2FCatalog%2F01_New_Products%2F09_2880&q=f > > > >-- >... >http://www.zmix.net > > >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.5/1084 - Release Date: >10/21/2007 3:09 PM -- ... http://www.zmix.net --============_-1019066085==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: EH 2880

    Well,  I for one have written pages and pages on it...

    try this link:

    http://tinyurl.com/2znyy4



    Good idea! I found this
    http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=3265#
    at http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200607/msg00552.html
    I still would like to hear from an owner of the unit but it still looks cool.
    One loop per flash card is a bit of a limitation. >From the video it was hard to tell if you can switch
     tracks without stopping.
    keep on looping,
    Jeff
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Charles Zwicky
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2007 10:15 PM
    Subject: Re: EH 2880



    Yes, and if this was a proper online FORUM it would be a simple matter to SEARCH... apparently you can do a search of the archives, wherever they reside...


    Hi ya'll,
      Does anyone have experience with this unit? Seems real cool!
    Any feedback is appreciated!
    tia,
    Jeff
     
    http://www.ehx.com/ehx2/Default.asp?f=%2FCatalog%2F01_New_Products%2F09_2880&q=f


    --
    ...
    http://www.zmix.net
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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 13:57:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D3C263BF21; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:57:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 351 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:57:43 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=EIMm70aa/s4y0VbBUbVmOC73GXPgdT3NU1Ha4jDaCQA=; b=Y4OQwyXP92K2En1qna+LO56qQOY8SERLxK10MVcHO1qbX91eGAEf9joOxKHTv4ZR/rPh0Ni+IyZ4V77nyi4zlk2RuKTk65pB/gGsU99VIQFo/nk+jrgVaObJk7wKRbuI6Vvrc8MfC6AMLZ8uLASwBDOYBDfXWvtdXkD8YSwMf4Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hwnSPRvgVFWG1zcXR8RNDF99c0iVE4fxdvHU9QX6mL1RguuKsFG+25KmzHx6dkN+1xcHsoRvtiA9rtVRXzGWi5pgKoa9J4aid7U2E0axi22Q0fpabucLWorJ6th6I6Sa4kcnsDa4wVu7qJsQ/hZfWpnZxPYC0Yp5efFetSXB3Gc= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 08:50:42 -0500 From: "Jon Southwood" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: soundproofing my Mac? In-Reply-To: <26ba8d120710220009w2ad88b86i58c482df90a545e7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3048_32220289.1193061042746" References: <26ba8d120710220009w2ad88b86i58c482df90a545e7@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 13:57:43 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3048_32220289.1193061042746 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline We had that problem with a G5 here at work. We took it in (it was still under Applecare warranty) and it needed a new power supply and a new logic board. Those have been replaced and it is now a very quiet machine. One of our other offices has had 5 of 6 G5s die horrible heat-related deaths, one actually started smoking profusely, the other 4 just bled coolant. I'd be very cautious about doing anything to the case that would reduce airflow, especially if the fan is already running non-stop. The fan running non-stop is either an indicator that the system is running too hot and needs to be cooled or that there's an issue with the logic board mis-reading the temps and forcing the fan to perform extra duty. Your best bet is to take it to a tech and at least get a diagnostic on it, especially if it's still under warranty. Cheers, Jon Southwood On 10/22/07, Tom Ritchford wrote: > > My Mac Quad G5 would have been the greatest machine ever except it's > completely loud -- the fan goes on no matter what and trying > everything online was hopeless. I've tried for a year to fix it and > nothing working. > > I've been looking to find a case to put it in that will suppress the > sound but everything I search for, I find PC-style cases that you > build a computer in, not a larger case that I can put the machine in. > > Any ideas as to where to find such a thing? > > -- > /t > > http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar > http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... > http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently) > > ------=_Part_3048_32220289.1193061042746 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline We had that problem with a G5 here at work. We took it in (it was still under Applecare warranty) and it needed a new power supply and a new logic board. Those have been replaced and it is now a very quiet machine.

    One of our other offices has had 5 of 6  G5s die horrible heat-related deaths, one actually started smoking profusely, the other 4 just bled coolant. I'd be very cautious about doing anything to the case that would reduce airflow, especially if the fan is already running non-stop. The fan running non-stop is either an indicator that the system is running too hot and needs to be cooled or that there's an issue with the logic board mis-reading the temps and forcing the fan to perform extra duty.

    Your best bet is to take it to a tech and at least get a diagnostic on it, especially if it's still under warranty.

    Cheers,
    Jon Southwood

    On 10/22/07, Tom Ritchford <tom@swirly.com> wrote:
    My Mac Quad G5 would have been the greatest machine ever except it's
    completely loud -- the fan goes on no matter what and trying
    everything online was hopeless.  I've tried for a year to fix it and
    nothing working.

    I've been looking to find a case to put it in that will suppress the
    sound but everything I search for, I find PC-style cases that you
    build a computer in, not a larger case that I can put the machine in.

    Any ideas as to where to find such a thing?

    --
         /t

    http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar
    http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little...
    http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently)


    ------=_Part_3048_32220289.1193061042746-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 16:43:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED7CB3BF2A; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:43:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2761 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:43:35 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000e01c81411$2a587960$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> References: <000e01c81411$2a587960$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 08:49:44 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: EH 2880 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1019053850==_ma============" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: <85PnWD.A.ImH.3MNHHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:43:35 +0000 (UTC) --============_-1019053850==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" I bought one and played around with it a bit. Seems like a hard thing to use in a live situation - no "undo" function, for one thing. I decided the best thing would be to use it at home, where I can take my time developing ideas that utilize the four-track capabilities but then edit out all the stretches of tedium and error. At 2:35 PM -0400 10/21/07, Jeff Duke wrote: >Hi ya'll, > Does anyone have experience with this unit? Seems real cool! >Any feedback is appreciated! >tia, >Jeff > >http://www.ehx.com/ehx2/Default.asp?f=%2FCatalog%2F01_New_Products%2F09_2880&q=f -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com --============_-1019053850==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: EH 2880


    I bought one and played around with it a bit.  Seems like a hard thing to use in a live situation - no "undo" function, for one thing.  I decided the best thing would be to use it at home, where I can take my time developing ideas that utilize the four-track capabilities but then edit out all the stretches of tedium and error.





    At 2:35 PM -0400 10/21/07, Jeff Duke wrote:
    Hi ya'll,
      Does anyone have experience with this unit? Seems real cool!
    Any feedback is appreciated!
    tia,
    Jeff
     
    http://www.ehx.com/ehx2/Default.asp?f=%2FCatalog%2F01_New_Products%2F09_2880&q=f


    --

    David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
    Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730
    Blog:  http://logblog.gdhour.com
    Web site: http://www.dgans.com
    --============_-1019053850==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 16:45:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00D9C3BF28; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:44:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1615 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:44:59 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=wcCWCNL5o8wbtFpLbafSJd2I9t9nq242RME4gypZMfo=; b=EFIAsHQ6xpcStIKa9flp2nZkoJuRq6TeNM9g1rxriYwIBeg19COTdh9D7WFE35TpwrURHxng37+NOS6KqT5/ZZkp9ELJEmgglmc7L7PUw7CS13SqW4jMGYW0vOqi+yyhvXis8slDepj8BgLCsbG4Ybwhajs3XxPVuhBHQjNMjoQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Y7JcPISUuglAiCYYiXjEkaFidg4LrGRjFPDnlxMoCaI9C4IFBvXMUfJ3T9oVJg+YvqIewh7l2xaKj8NeYZGdeihDLySKkuUXNB09ye8pA3vPWLW7Vkd5BbX7R8GhSR/J1MGerGd9tThjBFq8jeh3uH7oyhgB0qgaYOuo6GXJeMo= Message-ID: <26ba8d120710220918j61f8ec13h3b112b6f9598fc8a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:18:02 -0400 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: vansinn@post.cybercity.dk Subject: Re: OT: soundproofing my Mac? Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <471DC51B.8040408@post.cybercity.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <26ba8d120710220009w2ad88b86i58c482df90a545e7@mail.gmail.com> <471DC51B.8040408@post.cybercity.dk> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 05faa0578361b27f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:44:59 +0000 (UTC) Wow, this is very cool. The unit isn't under warrantee unfortunately -- on the other hand, that makes for the option of hacking it more attractive. On the other, other hand it makes the downside of blowing it up much greater. Now, I did a bunch more fiddling around last night. I found a very nice temperature monitor program called, er, Temperature Monitor http://www.bresink.com/osx/TemperatureMonitor.html Interestingly enough, all my temperature sensors are between 34 and 38 degrees C -- except that CPU B Core 2 runs about 47 degrees, the memory controller at 52 and the graphics chip at a sweltering 57 -- while according to "top" or "Activity Monitor" the CPU is 90% inactive and my house is a little chilly today. I don't believe that these sensors are correct. I don't believe the temperatures are so very high, and therefore I don't think more fans are going to fix it (though the idea of physically muffling the sound will work I think and I also think that the sensors will definitely prevent me from runaway overheating). A little more research led me to the idea of "thermal recalibration". Apparently, a batch of these G5s went out without their power sensors being recalbrated (I suppose I should consider myself lucky if this is in fact the cause -- I could have had it badly calibrated the other way). Now supposedly you need to run a special program called "Thermal Recalibration" (clearly written by a friend of "Temperature Monitor") that only Mac techs have -- and a store would charge you $50-100 to run (it's not just the money -- but bringing my whole machine in, UGH -- can't I just pay $100 and get the program?) However, a friend of mine might have it, or I might be able to get the techs at work to get it. Stay tuned!!!! And thanks for the data. This might well have been John's problem or some variant thereof. >From what I've gleaned, running Thermal Calibrator would get done after the mother board was replaced... On 10/23/07, van Sinn wrote: > Tom Ritchford wrote: > > My Mac Quad G5 would have been the greatest machine ever except it's > > completely loud -- the fan goes on no matter what and trying > > everything online was hopeless. I've tried for a year to fix it and > > nothing working. > > > > I've been looking to find a case to put it in that will suppress the > > sound but everything I search for, I find PC-style cases that you > > build a computer in, not a larger case that I can put the machine in. > > > > Any ideas as to where to find such a thing? > > Sound-proofing boxes does exist; be creative with your Google searches.. > > You may be able to silence your G5. > It has lotsa slots on it's sides, letting noise out. In car accessery > stores you can buy self-adhesive foam pads which does a great job > sucking fan and harddrive noises. Here in DK two versions are available. > One is made of a somewhat dense multicolored material, which is good > against rumble noises, and a softer gray pad which is good at sucking > fan hiss and drive whining. the latter works better for computers. > Simply cut it to size for i.e. the sides, buttom and top of the box, rip > off the protective plactic foam and stick it to the surface. > > However, do ensure good airflow through the box. Yeah, I saw a Sun workstation killed in my youth that way. :-( > I don't remember how the front and rear of the G5 is layed out. IMO, a > good box should have 120mm fans both front and rear. While I'm sure the > G5 doesn't have this, hopefully it has decent venting holes/grill on the > front and suitable fans on the rear. If not, you may have a problem when > you cover the venting at the sides of the box with the foam stuff. > > Noisy harddrives (if they are so..) can be replaced. I got the drives myself, they're quite quiet. > Fans can be replaced. When shopping look for the CFM/dBa params. > > The real problem is small (50/60/80mm) diameter PSU/CPU/box fans et al.. > Pabst makes some of the best 9/12dBa 80mm fans, but they still have ball > bearing noises. Mounted on rubber, they work fine. I simply glue them on > using a thick layer of glue for diving wetsuits. Can be ripped-off > again, so no problem.. > > Because the G4/5 series use PowerPC CPU's, the usual PC world heatsink > replacement parts doesn't apply; here creativity is a must ;) > I can solve most drive and fan issues in my G4 dual 800, but have to > build some duct over the CPU module heatsink to fix the 50mm fan noise. > > > A few examples of lownoise 120mm fans: > > http://studiedata.dk/shop/noctua-nf-s12-800-blaeser-6024p.html > http://studiedata.dk/shop/noctua-nf-s12-1200-blaeser-5993p.html > > Yup, danish, so a few explanations; CFM/dBa.. should be understandable. > They feature SSO-bearings (Self Stabilizing Oil pressure bearings). > The dBa ratings are with/without the noise adaptor thingy. > > -- > rgds, > van Sinn > > -- /t http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 17:31:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0ED23BF26; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:31:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20071022182208.00bbf1c0@pop.earthlink.net> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:31:28 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: Colored MacBook shells Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:31:33 +0000 (UTC) Hey All, a while back here, there were a couple of notes posted about colored shells for a MacBook / MacBook Pro. Would whomever sent those along, possibly be so kind as to do so again?... (I'm interested in shells for a MacBook 13.3) I checked the archives but alas, cannot locate the msgs... Thanks so much and have a lovely day!... Smiles, Cara :) --- http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 17:45:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B818A3BF33; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:45:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4407 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:45:26 UTC Message-ID: <1193068290.471cc702c9321@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:51:30 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K7 - thanks to Rick and the performers! References: <018c01c8122f$d9b48b30$6501a8c0@dayglogreen> <001701c81452$fbaf42a0$f30dc7e0$@com> <01a601c81458$cc1d50d0$0100000a@bobdell> In-Reply-To: <01a601c81458$cc1d50d0$0100000a@bobdell> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 208.49.125.142 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:45:26 +0000 (UTC) I'm thirding it.. heh.. and big kudos and thank you's to Mark Hamburg for taking a million pictures, and producing a CD with each performers pictures on the spot! and to Mike the soundguy, who tirelessly managed to keep both stages sounding good.. :) peace -cpr Quoting Bob Amstadt : > > Thanks to all the performers and *especially* to Rick and his friends for > > all their hard work! > > > I second the motion. It was an unbelievable event. It was really > spectacular to see such wonderful musicians. It was a real treat seeing > people from this list playing. I was fortunate to see Per Boysen, Henry > Kaiser and Bill Walker. I really appreciate the effort that musicians made > to actually be at this festival. It is just incredible that so many people > traveled so far to be here. > > Big thanks to Rick and his crew for organizing this and a big thanks to the > musicians that put their time, energy and money into being here. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 17:45:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA6353BF3E; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:45:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 414 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:45:42 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=VB29lSs/cTbwfCWvOKzInvODz1mqz0J0k7gb6wm3ppI=; b=Qmw7fHPceQiQjp6Zw9Ig+u0OirL+v4pIxgQ0A0dolhI5SJ8WFz4Bs0Vx1xIPMre/7FmlfwlQx1aM3NGFIg06ohRA6Pg1RJMBphFbzu7iy3jRBPK8+ofeG7AehVYLMWvgusb2LyIhzFqETyo9gUuW6IRyM61+qRXarxin+/1sbBo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=MZqwVTDC3Yu65m6LYtwZ6Tm67vma/L3hMVtF3lF50aultdhuYfkUVmNgsY4/zRuysi5Kg3d7QV4Gy9LdbPDl1gL5ilne+Hgm5wedIqjIdCB9M5oP7FoMesJVlPktLXTtHTTEpO1IZr/MlAk/UtzJ4+rCVijcJgcspjd7yuD1BoE= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 11:38:45 -0600 From: "C 3" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EH 2880 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11143_9427428.1193074725877" References: <000e01c81411$2a587960$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 17:45:42 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_11143_9427428.1193074725877 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Ping Adam Tanner - he used one at the lodo bass bash in august i thought it was really cool!!!! On 10/22/07, David Gans wrote: > > > > I bought one and played around with it a bit. Seems like a hard thing to > use in a live situation - no "undo" function, for one thing. I decided the > best thing would be to use it at home, where I can take my time developing > ideas that utilize the four-track capabilities but then edit out all the > stretches of tedium and error. > > > > > > At 2:35 PM -0400 10/21/07, Jeff Duke wrote: > > Hi ya'll, > > Does anyone have experience with this unit? Seems real cool! > > Any feedback is appreciated! > > tia, > > Jeff > > > > http://www.ehx.com/ehx2/Default.asp?f=%2FCatalog%2F01_New_Products%2 > F09_2880&q=f > > > > -- > > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > -- Christopher "C3" Cardone APC Instruments ------=_Part_11143_9427428.1193074725877 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Ping Adam Tanner - he used one at the lodo bass bash in august
    i thought it was really cool!!!!



    On 10/22/07, David Gans < david@trufun.com> wrote:


    I bought one and played around with it a bit.  Seems like a hard thing to use in a live situation - no "undo" function, for one thing.  I decided the best thing would be to use it at home, where I can take my time developing ideas that utilize the four-track capabilities but then edit out all the stretches of tedium and error.





    At 2:35 PM -0400 10/21/07, Jeff Duke wrote:
    Hi ya'll,
      Does anyone have experience with this unit? Seems real cool!
    Any feedback is appreciated!
    tia,
    Jeff
     
    http://www.ehx.com/ehx2/Default.asp?f=%2FCatalog%2F01_New_Products%2 F09_2880&q=f


    --

    David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
    Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730
    Blog:  http://logblog.gdhour.com
    Web site: http://www.dgans.com



    --
    Christopher "C3" Cardone
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Subject: From General Peter Olu Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:49:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: To: unlisted-recipients: ;(no To-header on input) THE PRESIDENCY Aso Rock villa, Asokoro District, Abuja Direct Security Line 234-808-342-2181 Email: genpeterolucbn2000@i12.com CONFIDENTIAL DIPLOMATIC IMMUNITY PAYMENT Dear Sir/Madam, I am General Peter Olu (Rtd), National Special Adviser to President Aihaji Umar Musa Yaradua Federal Republic of Nigeria I am delighted to inform you that the contract panel, which just concluded it’s seating in Abuja just released your name amongst contractors to benefit from the Diplomatic Immunity Payment. 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National Security Adviser to the President Federal Republic of Nigeria From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 18:42:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55F0C3BF35; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:42:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 394 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:42:12 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=aOMz97kWNWk7rZJYWSLcepaewERVVQwzhPKx5LytWNY=; b=kUIDIw3P1i067lPrOuDFYN5NMWXpdmvAR6aTtp4q5KLFoXFTgVvNh8P4YaEIaX8RKBC1PXIFBlKnG0WrPsoD1ppwtrkymwX4dWD8A4iGlqpjk68O/8rERtAA4gO237IjGggBsiW6wQN2KHNHCapaQ4/TMFElqUkM4yBjZmXYcSw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IYbksahNuGKKwNbHohY2oXS0J+JtSLrg2vTzxAiPbi4vTVWvAAGJiAf99nwrxLEykNTKrW67P5mjh37Ooe3Fyh0C1P/ag+hzWKkh4l9MbBMLIq/nBezCEt5NgUzROB39lWr078lDL0mNZEUFnNgy7HZMIfFA7xLh1ZQ0se+bDJ0= Message-ID: <9e0440a60710221135wdaaf883j4726913705ead66f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:35:29 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K7 - thanks to Rick and the performers! In-Reply-To: <1193068290.471cc702c9321@webmail.musetrap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <018c01c8122f$d9b48b30$6501a8c0@dayglogreen> <001701c81452$fbaf42a0$f30dc7e0$@com> <01a601c81458$cc1d50d0$0100000a@bobdell> <1193068290.471cc702c9321@webmail.musetrap.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:42:13 +0000 (UTC) I echo this thread as well. Though we (chinapainting) were limited to being there only Saturday due tour scheduling, it was so great to be part of this and have the opportunity to be a featured performer that evening. Special thanks to Rick for responding to our music and for all he did in orchestrating this marvelous event. Echoing CPR's kudos to Mark for capturing such wonderful imagery of all the performers and for giving us all copies. Note to Chris though we expressed thanks in our set to you for the ongoing NinJam server support, I regret I missed meeting you earlier in the day when you were there, just too many things. In close it was great to connect with all of you that.we did and to have the chance toshare the stage with so many wonderful people this year. I hope that Sunday was a great day and this AM's brunch great. I had to fly back to NY last night and already miss California (sigh), it was great! Best Jim www chinapaintingmusic.com On 10/22/07, cpr@musetrap.com wrote: > I'm thirding it.. heh.. > > and big kudos and thank you's to Mark Hamburg for taking a million pictures, > and > producing a CD with each performers pictures on the spot! and to Mike the > soundguy, who tirelessly managed to keep both stages sounding good.. :) > > peace > -cpr > > Quoting Bob Amstadt : > > > > Thanks to all the performers and *especially* to Rick and his friends > for > > > all their hard work! > > > > > > I second the motion. It was an unbelievable event. It was really > > spectacular to see such wonderful musicians. It was a real treat seeing > > people from this list playing. I was fortunate to see Per Boysen, Henry > > Kaiser and Bill Walker. I really appreciate the effort that musicians > made > > to actually be at this festival. It is just incredible that so many > people > > traveled so far to be here. > > > > Big thanks to Rick and his crew for organizing this and a big thanks to > the > > musicians that put their time, energy and money into being here. > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com Associates and friends on the web - Daryl Shawn - http://www.swanwelder.com Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 20:48:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EAB13BF36; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:48:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=V5Whn08W9Nq9zGCdBdagretqs5+AuJONzH8QCQZRpvc=; b=JCfsjP94ajb5/b7q8aQey+nmownMJcU8FW64tu7vihnuJHF4UrVLn4i29Has9kNzFm59/yH1noOiPqCBU5NSe5N7SwGDtB1m3Re3pVu4LYYTUJSmozsLgc3fmNkt23kjZkBAPVW9CUkK5jibM/tLtxpS+RwV+jLw+ysq3B3Sjn4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=UCiwc9BKffVxovtQ5osCXtN2BFcnF1NXCkTbNYMvXy505fUEsYP9K3f81OwnTKfWQ0WwvsJO8EYLZFF2vD+pQyNWoAVE+8ZqrZ91MEbLSALxkM0x1VPpuevyCxtw12GAV1K7n01g8R7+lCotZrqrCrGKCo69wqKUuoNXwxBpRS4= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:48:35 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Colored MacBook shells In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20071022182208.00bbf1c0@pop.earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_18947_26950194.1193086115604" References: <5.2.1.1.0.20071022182208.00bbf1c0@pop.earthlink.net> Resent-Message-ID: <_qF0YC.A.FnC.kyQHHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:48:37 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_18947_26950194.1193086115604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline hei cara.. i remember that were warren sirota or ted killian, though maybe i'm wrong... why don'y you look in the apple site? at least in the spanish site they are selling that colored shells you are referring to. i supose all sites it's the same. just give it a look to the menu on the left of the site. hope it helps, raul. 2007/10/22, Cara Quinn : > > Hey All, a while back here, there were a couple > of notes posted about > colored shells for a MacBook / MacBook Pro. > > Would whomever sent those along, possibly be so kind as to do so > again?... > > (I'm interested in shells for a MacBook 13.3) > > I checked the archives but alas, cannot locate the msgs... > > Thanks so much and have a lovely day!... > > Smiles, > > Cara :) > --- > http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_18947_26950194.1193086115604 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline hei cara.. i remember that were warren sirota or ted killian,
    though maybe i'm wrong... why don'y you look in the apple site?

    at least in the spanish site they are selling that colored shells
    you are referring to. i supose all sites it's the same.

    just give it a look to the menu on the left of the site.

    hope it helps,
    raul.


    2007/10/22, Cara Quinn <CaraQuinn@onemodelplace.com >:
                              Hey All, a while back here, there were a couple of notes posted about
    colored shells for a MacBook / MacBook Pro.

       Would whomever sent those along, possibly be so kind as to do so again?...

       (I'm interested in shells for a MacBook 13.3)

    I checked the archives but alas, cannot locate the msgs...

       Thanks so much and have a lovely day!...

    Smiles,

    Cara  :)
    ---
    http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn




    --
    The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_18947_26950194.1193086115604-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 21:17:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 11A2B3BEF7; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:17:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=dkPUVRBwfrKoKpPIyVGSM6JHbmPR7MftHywAwNPQUSFax+waLXhZm0AQqGyiSkQpN7aty6sMCXlA7w98+D9pZ69MG8UhGYftKpJSwIdFqcQsX6pXQazBxZ7x9KFUO0/KbTbrEh3U7WHTOpK3tOh5Qtj7X/0C3Aq1ytKq7odkuj4=; X-YMail-OSG: gwK3ZUsVM1m2V6m4pGrBFgxQQ1xJ7Ty8HljbZcYK7xNzxdqBxIGT27rUzp_rGX7Di5OWGSydDdmmfzLrwYTjNnr0IwemWPfjd78b6sAM1GiFBUP13CM- Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:17:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Colored MacBook shells To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <990713.24741.qm@web38614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:17:06 +0000 (UTC) Hey Cara, i thought you mentioned you have a PC laptop from audiolabs which you said you were really happy with,are you moving to mac now? cheers Luis > 2007/10/22, Cara Quinn > : > > > > Hey All, a while back > here, there were a couple > > of notes posted about > > colored shells for a MacBook / MacBook Pro. > > > > Would whomever sent those along, possibly be so > kind as to do so > > again?... > > > > (I'm interested in shells for a MacBook 13.3) > > > > I checked the archives but alas, cannot locate the > msgs... > > > > Thanks so much and have a lovely day!... > > > > Smiles, > > > > Cara :) > > --- > > http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > > > > > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: > http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: > http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 22:05:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72C603BF3B; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:05:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: HarryEsq@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:05:21 EDT Subject: Re: Y2K7 - thanks to Rick and the performers! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1193090721" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 15301 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:05:27 +0000 (UTC) -------------------------------1193090721 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just arrived back in NY from LoopFest and of course must echo the thanks to Rick and to everyone who worked to make the Festival the great event that it was. This was a first time thing for me and it was wonderful to meet so many of the people whose names I've seen fly by on the list over the years. The music was more than inspiring and I came away from watching the many great performances with a lot of new ideas. Even jet lag has not stopped me from plugging in and experimenting this afternoon. Thanks to all who welcomed Chris Peters and I and gave us kind words about our performance. It was a very gratifying experience. And thanks to Mark for the pictures. They're such a nice reminder of a great time and I'm amazed at your stamina. Regards, Harry Harry Weinberg, Esq. Law Offices of Harry Weinberg 11 Beach Street - 8th Floor New York, N.Y. 10013 (212) 989-2908 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1193090721 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Just arrived back in NY from LoopFest and of course must echo the thank= s to=20 Rick and to everyone who worked to make the Festival the great event that it= =20 was.  This was a first time thing for me and it was wonderful to meet s= o=20 many of the people whose names I've seen fly by on the list over the=20 years.  The music was more than inspiring and I came away from watching= the=20 many great performances with a lot of new ideas.  Even jet lag has not=20 stopped me from plugging in and experimenting this afternoon.  Thanks t= o=20 all who welcomed Chris Peters and I and gave us kind words about our=20 performance.  It was a very gratifying experience.  And thanks to=20= Mark=20 for the pictures.  They're such a nice reminder of a great time and I'm= =20 amazed at your stamina. 
     
    Regards,
     
    Harry
     
     
    Harry=20 Weinberg, Esq.
    Law Offices of Harry Weinberg
    11 Beach Street - 8th=20 Floor
    New York, N.Y. 10013
    (212)=20 989-2908



    -------------------------------1193090721-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 22:11:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FB6A3BF4B; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:11:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1584 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:11:51 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=VBd2sr3M5JpU8QXAG7LVyUvmVqESk1WMAJuL/aw/9fw=; b=iIWk7J5+AK5BLCC4lTCCsepNaP761VLmhQ1meBCrP7auukZiGGxWBVs2UwQrshnKi4eNAF+nW7ngfjQjE8y+ozJVO3CHCgKJLrFJgJ/2V9g3EjuYrJmwq45vLB+d0aF4iDYoGaMb47z02ngrEcRnS/19kpp7KLmRwOzMe4gbo3U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=r1P/kasiR0Of28uPts3+PtfRkJp3NFuCm69HEvxs5UqO/IzLbr/s8MqoNsxcj67Cbos6msik8yghG0KiSq/4wBiyKC5S3TO7uy9cMIrFveiC5eSsZm80QOqTLiI4j0xuYFrpruTRMNZievui0xZUgMH7wf9Kl+Eo+ZB/U0dYBRs= Message-ID: <46fea78d0710221445t267bb533ob8b045e3830ab175@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:45:25 -0700 From: "David H" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Colored MacBook shells In-Reply-To: <990713.24741.qm@web38614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21225_32441424.1193089525508" References: <990713.24741.qm@web38614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <5u6aE.A.1BG.nASHHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:11:52 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_21225_32441424.1193089525508 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Is this what you were looking for? I'm still considering getting one for my MacBook, tho I've heard that the shell limits screen tilt... http://www.speckproducts.com/content/choose-your-size?gclid=CICD3u-7o48CFRJXagodOFyS_w Whalie ------=_Part_21225_32441424.1193089525508 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Is this what you were looking for? I'm still considering getting one for my MacBook, tho I've heard that the shell limits screen tilt...

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    ------=_Part_21225_32441424.1193089525508-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 22:28:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A8AC3BF40; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <380-2200710122222820678@M2W016.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: qua@oregon.com X-Originating-IP: 134.134.136.4 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "qua@oregon.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:28:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: using muliple, simple loop pedals Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:28:22 +0000 (UTC) While I ponder my software looping product choices, I want to get started with some not-so-expensive hardware pedals=2E It occurred to me that 2 or= even 3 RC-2's might be interesting=2E I have a splitter and could route= instrument inputs to one or more in parallel, or daisy chain them=2E =20= Seems that this could emulate multiple looping tracks=2E Your thoughts =3D=3F -Qua -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web=2Ecom - Microsoft=AE Exchange solutions from a leading provider -= http://link=2Email2web=2Ecom/Business/Exchange From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 22:41:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7016E3BF45; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:41:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <380-2200710122222820678@M2W016.mail2web.com> References: <380-2200710122222820678@M2W016.mail2web.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <692A1DBB-C61B-4E00-91BF-F481A6CCF66B@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: Re: using muliple, simple loop pedals Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:43:22 -0600 To: qua@oregon.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:41:26 +0000 (UTC) Thoughts? For the price get an RC50. It's like running 3 RC20xl in =20 parallel, either independently - ie: different loop lengths, fade =20 out/ fade in times etc. - or in sync. Lots of midi stuff too (that I =20= don't use or know about). Should be able to get one for around $400 =20 (+/-). Cheaper than 3 RC-2s..... - Paul << http://pmguitar.com >> << http://www.myspace.com/paulmimlitsch >> On Oct 22, 2007, at 4:28 PM, qua@oregon.com wrote: > While I ponder my software looping product choices, I want to get =20 > started > with some not-so-expensive hardware pedals. It occurred to me that =20= > 2 or > even 3 RC-2's might be interesting. I have a splitter and could =20 > route > instrument inputs to one or more in parallel, or daisy chain them. > Seems that this could emulate multiple looping tracks. > > Your thoughts =3D? > > -Qua > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web.com - Microsoft=AE Exchange solutions from a leading provider = - > http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 22:55:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D59B3BF4E; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:55:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:55:57 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:MIME-Version:From:Subject:Date:Importance:X-Priority:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=t7QvQK2i2dncLG242GDDBzS36222vIyfp6CoGF37dfeZa79obuSbxf6Qt4gMINFLjA0mKwzwRiv3FnmLo39SfodxYqtJYNuETFXz/n6SC+JQivh+tNQBP/VEEGA/7XIJqJeh/HA4KpTLyzfOYKlj73CZ2ZWRbKW7SBCezA6Umuw= ; X-YMail-OSG: .lGt8kYVM1nI3N5jy4buLG9fkUV59.sYfBnh4htVmp6n2yd5M_Pe.P57dgmckYqqucNX.VHl3QJmTAOVijS_K5DTaOw9FymRh3H6b1jQ.PFOQfviXw-- MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Murkie Subject: RE: EH 2880 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:54:25 -0400 Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: <20071022225557.22F433BF40@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:55:57 +0000 (UTC) I bought one a while back and liked it. Then I got the software update and now I love it. They fixed some (not all= ) of the sync issues and gave it much greater midi functionality. My 2880,= Adrenalinn and Jamman are all slaved to the same clock. I use the 2880 on= the trebble side of my stick for beds and soundscapes and the bass side go= es through the Jamman so I can toggle between different looped basslines. I'll post some sound examples soon. m TwistedAppleRecords.com= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 23:32:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD8113BF4C; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:32:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ERj0pPx3qdEamwGsXrIA:9 a=WiZAQ4byu6h-ZoS9NxkA:7 a=dyezmM9rs8MZXPLKHgdEEREb7jIA:4 a=pPoLiiGcKOMA:10 a=mYvZLaPgk4gA:10 a=3Kur3BaIzEoA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=oltf0pfCdT4A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.mail=echohead@embarqmail.com; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=echohead@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp07.embarq.synacor.com: 71.48.241.17 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of embarqmail.com) Message-ID: <000701c81503$c884a300$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <20071022225557.22F433BF40@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: Re: EH 2880 Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:32:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: <02-ShD.A.L1.BMTHHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:32:17 +0000 (UTC) Damn, I haven't even bought one yet and I need a software update! heh, or do the new ones already have it? I didn't see anything in my research today. Does EH offer it? tia, jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Murkie" To: Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:54 PM Subject: RE: EH 2880 I bought one a while back and liked it. Then I got the software update and now I love it. They fixed some (not all) of the sync issues and gave it much greater midi functionality. My 2880, Adrenalinn and Jamman are all slaved to the same clock. I use the 2880 on the trebble side of my stick for beds and soundscapes and the bass side goes through the Jamman so I can toggle between different looped basslines. I'll post some sound examples soon. m TwistedAppleRecords.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.5/1084 - Release Date: 10/21/2007 3:09 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 22 23:45:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B0AF3BF54; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:45:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1624 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:45:46 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=aZ1VXKBUPg8Jlp2T2l9Xk7VEHvw4zVxMWvcZ5fFjOiU=; b=UVc+sqJe0DNzyzpG8QExSuYj+7h+REk59aFxj7fAQyJzxPbugdXfQLQrNhxfS2+Xo9tW9Qv0ESGLQ48ObnVq+wxvESBMK4Ja5XbSsluQWz1Ygylv0l1DhTuzSIr2AYStwTlngpBg6+4D3vDsIWyizK1xIRWNJQvtEPeu6om4n8Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=L4exdSaiXlU0ULLzXBt/FGABPi9pm0FKK07/wr0sreeedTyaU621TF/lxwaReNNImr2CNnqsg/bKFvfL1QCZLpW7CV9opz1urxf4zjCSmnWB5xnqGT+hEl3YahtV3ziRhsxPIMiwKF63NSbUHSmZFJkOEnK0Mb4WojiL2hRV0xE= Message-ID: <26ba8d120710221618w619eaa9et60cc00ceed38fd64@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:18:41 -0400 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K7 - thanks to Rick and the performers! In-Reply-To: <001701c81452$fbaf42a0$f30dc7e0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <018c01c8122f$d9b48b30$6501a8c0@dayglogreen> <001701c81452$fbaf42a0$f30dc7e0$@com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: f3ccde14db6c971a Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:45:47 +0000 (UTC) Sigh. One day, I'll make it there. I'm starting the move to laptop -- I just can't carry around 100+ pounds of gear any more -- so perhaps I'll even do a set! -- /t http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 02:27:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02AF83BF4C; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:27:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <13639707.62271193106450738.JavaMail.servlet@kundenserver> From: tilmann@dehnhard.com To: Subject: Re: EH 2880 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-Binford: 6100 (more power) X-Mailer: Webmail X-Originating-From: 6257158 X-Routing: DE X-Message-Id: <6257158$1193106450689172.23.4.15031996031@pustefix150.kundenserver.de--871719713> X-Received: from pustefix150.kundenserver.de by 200.118.62.32 with HTTP id 6257158 for [Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com]; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:27:30 CEST Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:27:30 +0200 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/2Cf9Rrz/b7XsilDUmPyqEfDlwkpt2ZXjN7Oo 2qKJFrigT8Y+HdX71bunGeSgj9NMtmEJidCdE8ocpZZ6bkXqBS kz/ORjHXzTvP2Smyqd3kA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:27:32 +0000 (UTC) here are some comments about the 2880: it definitely looks really cool, but the paint can be scratched off with a = fingernail in some places. for hands-free operation you will need the remote - not really cheap, that = little thing. and it=C2=B4s rubber feet fall off pretty soon. you can not record loops of very short length (less than 1 or 2 secs). the = machine will add a silent gap. i love the reverse function and the pitch fader. instead of undo you could mute the track and go to the next one, record it = new. if you use only three tracks, that=C2=B4s a possible workaround. the four faders and the pan screws are great, outros can be faded independe= ntly. up to now (approx. 20 gigs) the machine has never crashed or glitched or dr= opped out. i have to add that i keep it in a sturdy box packed safely in ru= bber foam with the card detached from the slot. i put tape over the blinking light - made me nervous. once i started plazing and heard a click - i must have moved the click cont= rol. now i check it frequently before starting to play. the card gives you the option to import your tracks into the computer. comes in very handy for producing. well, i hope the above can be of help, all the best - tilmann From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 02:28:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 049163BF43; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <001701c81452$fbaf42a0$f30dc7e0$@com> References: <018c01c8122f$d9b48b30$6501a8c0@dayglogreen> <001701c81452$fbaf42a0$f30dc7e0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <196773ef58be2eec01150c582315d38f@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Y2K7 - thanks to Rick and the performers! Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 19:28:35 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Qua and all, It was great to meet up with you again Qua. I just got home this evening from my 7 hour drive home from Santa Cruz. Wow, this is one of the best Y2K fests in a long time. Boy, am I really glad I didn't play this year. It gave me more of a chance to get inspired (rather than depressed, heheh) and did I ever. During my drive home I got to listen to newly acquired CDs by: Leander Reininghaus Randolf Arriola Matthias Grob Fabio Anile Erdem Helvacioglu Henry Kaiser Greg Williams and Matt davignon I am so totally stoked on the experience. I gotta get on Amazon quick and buy some Arild Andersen CDs too Thanks Rick and everyone who had a hand in this year's show. It was a knockout. Also thanks to guitarist/photographer Mark Hamburg and his lovely family for their hospitality in putting me up for a weekend. Qua, we Oregonian loopers need to do something up here. Cheers, Ted On Oct 21, 2007, at 7:26 PM, Qua Veda wrote: > I just got back from Y2K7. Had to leave Sunday morning, but I got to > see all > the performers Friday and Saturday. WOW !! The music was fabulous! > Thanks to all the performers and *especially* to Rick and his friends > for > all their hard work! > > -Qua > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 02:55:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCCB13BF54; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:55:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20071023034140.00ba4480@mail.onemodelplace.com> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:48:47 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: Re: Colored MacBook shells In-Reply-To: <990713.24741.qm@web38614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <2Q_By.A.rxH.FKWHHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:55:02 +0000 (UTC) Luis, yes, I really was happy with my lappie, (an Averatec) but alas, not only am I simply getting fed up with Windows and how poorly it acts along with screen access tech, but my poor lil hard drive died a week ago, so yes, I'm now getting a MacBook... I've been wanting to do the Mac thing for a while, so now is the time. :) And, if I like, I can still run XP on it as well, so there ya go. :) I still do love my other laptop and will plan on keeping it for a spare... Have an awesome evening!... Smiles, Cara :) At 14:17 22/10/2007 -0700, you wrote: >Hey Cara, >i thought you mentioned you have a PC laptop from >audiolabs which you said you were really happy >with,are you moving to mac now? >cheers >Luis > > > > 2007/10/22, Cara Quinn > > : > > > > > > Hey All, a while back > > here, there were a couple > > > of notes posted about > > > colored shells for a MacBook / MacBook Pro. > > > > > > Would whomever sent those along, possibly be so > > kind as to do so > > > again?... > > > > > > (I'm interested in shells for a MacBook 13.3) > > > > > > I checked the archives but alas, cannot locate the > > msgs... > > > > > > Thanks so much and have a lovely day!... > > > > > > Smiles, > > > > > > Cara :) > > > --- > > > http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > The Playing Orchestra: > > http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > > TPO at myspace: > > http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > > > > >www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com --- View my online portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 02:55:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DB8653BF58; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:55:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20071023034916.00ba4480@mail.onemodelplace.com> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:52:14 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: Re: Colored MacBook shells In-Reply-To: <46fea78d0710221445t267bb533ob8b045e3830ab175@mail.gmail.co m> References: <990713.24741.qm@web38614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <990713.24741.qm@web38614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_3174454==.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: <3dk46D.A.G1H.HKWHHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 02:55:03 +0000 (UTC) --=====================_3174454==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed thanks so much! I believe this is what was posted. Out of curiosity, which color MacBook do you have?... :) also, are you running looping sw on it?... Thanks so much and have a lovely evening!... Smiles, Cara :) At 14:45 22/10/2007 -0700, you wrote: >Is this what you were looking for? I'm still considering getting one for >my MacBook, tho I've heard that the shell limits screen tilt... > >http://www.speckproducts.com/content/choose-your-size?gclid=CICD3u-7o48CFRJXagodOFyS_w > >Whalie --- View my online portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn --=====================_3174454==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"   thanks so much!  I believe this is what was posted.  Out of curiosity, which color MacBook do you have?...  :) 

      also, are you running looping sw on it?...

    Thanks so much and have a lovely evening!...

    Smiles,

    Cara  :)

    At 14:45 22/10/2007 -0700, you wrote:
    Is this what you were looking for? I'm still considering getting one for my MacBook, tho I've heard that the shell limits screen tilt...

    http://www.speckproducts.com/content/choose-your-size?gclid=CICD3u-7o48CFRJXagodOFyS_w

    Whalie

    ---
    View my online portfolio at:

    http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn

    --=====================_3174454==.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 03:20:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3DF93BF59; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:20:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,315,1188792000"; d="scan'208";a="105950494" X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAD4FHUdKh6B4/2dsb2JhbACQOw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,315,1188792000"; d="scan'208";a="147683697" Message-ID: <000c01c81523$bbeed7d0$78a0874a@preferre4ca07a> From: "Mark Smart" To: References: <380-2200710122222820678@M2W016.mail2web.com> Subject: Re: using muliple, simple loop pedals Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:20:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:20:56 +0000 (UTC) Before I added the Echoplex and all the other stuff to my jazz setup, I used to use two RC-20s with the guitar. I would set them up side by side so it was possible to hit Stop on the left one at the same time as hitting Record or Play on the right one with one foot. So I could record two backgrounds for a song using this sequence: 1. Hit Record on the left one and play in the first background loop. 2. Hit Stop on the left one and Record on the right one simultaneously with one foot, play the second background loop. 3. Hit Stop on the right one and Play on the left one simultaneously. This takes 2 feet and I didn't always get it! Hitting Stop on the right one at the right time is more important, of course. So you can just do that and have a slight delay before the first loop gets played if you can't reliably hit both at the same time. 4. Play over first loop. 5. Hit Stop on left one and Play on right one. 6. Play over second loop. 7. Find some way to end the tune! I could also do a "Multiply" function by recording a short thing into the first RC-20, then playing that into the second RC-20 while playing more stuff over it. Dunno how the RC-2 works, but this might be possible with them. Easier, even. After doing this I kept adding more stuff until I ended up with the current monstrosity: http://www.marksmart.net/gearhack/jazzpedalboard/jazzpedalboard.html Mark Smart http://www.marksmart.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 03:23:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76BB93BF5A; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:23:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 301 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:23:27 UTC From: "greg williams" To: Subject: Re: Y2K7 - thanks to Rick and the performers! Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:18:43 -0700 Message-ID: <002601c8152b$cc94f3f0$eb9c0718@gwdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcgVK8w/dFh9IX8pTZal3UAawn04kA== Resent-Message-ID: <07v4sC.A.a3.vkWHHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:23:27 +0000 (UTC) What a beautiful, inspiring weekend! I wholeheartedly concur with the large slathering of thanks being poured on Rick for pulling it off. One of my favorite moments of the festival was when the mayor surprised Rick by giving him the key to the city. An emotional moment, especially considering how he was giving a speech shortly before she arrived telling everyone how proud he is to be where he is, and how much he loves his city. Congrats Rick! Oh, in the 'let's thank everybody' category, thanks also to Krispen for recording the performances, and to Chris and Gretchen for working the door and selling CDs. I am glad I had a chance to give Per a pear. Did you enjoy the pear Per? Greetings from Sacramento Greg Williams From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 03:48:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FAB63BF5A; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:48:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=bW10spXrwP0K6bTm2SQT0x73cpAVHVfsWMM3lr2pw6g=; b=DeC+kILDYKNkvr2vNucU7dxuVgz5leb+chVVatkgmvaQ0UGFKFBLpRJ0Ob9HvRf/x/mCHEefpuiEoNCUIEi3n0lOS2GAaI8/hU7VZE2pq+SL7JH+MnvcFLEjgL77SK8g/GHI39Mms4mDknFiDRRG3dNCcBHUaYGoSHPGkcGHblE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=m4Rv6/plVISss+bf+BsukVKYRdHBwVab1XMpVW8oMkEJYHppQCYABHJG9Dpl583GzGhvOMhPVUzwxxZ3fGouR+3DMnP++bYnIWIOGM2DTFWdIvpFKAHzcN8R9bX07RSn76huuPXDdG2UhDHy3WpQI7kfrFUJsu3oVdFeqLu/58E= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:48:32 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: loops compression MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:48:34 +0000 (UTC) hi friends, looking to per's bidule diagrams for the california gig some askings come to mind... what about multi-channel compression on the final stages of a multi-track looper like mobius or sooperlooper, to clean the final realtime mix, in spite of two channels comp? is a matter of like/dislike? in order to not overload cpu's power?. i find quite amusing per's decision to not process loops after mobius outs... i think this is challengig and makes this option superior to the contrary. i'd say it's first class loop music. hei per.. may you tell us, bidule freaks, what's doing all those 16 instances of "Tailprsrv" in the setup? thx, raul. p.s. can't wait to listen/watch some of the events at cali. pleeeease!! upload!!! -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 03:58:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7BB923BF5E; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:58:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 700 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:58:33 UTC X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAFcLHUeCVlCD/2dsb2JhbACQOw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,315,1188802800"; d="scan'208";a="21521693" MIME-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <002601c8152b$cc94f3f0$eb9c0718@gwdesk> References: <002601c8152b$cc94f3f0$eb9c0718@gwdesk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mike Crain Subject: Re: Y2K7 - thanks to Rick and the performers! Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:46:37 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:58:34 +0000 (UTC) Yeah!! I'd like to add a huge THANKS to Rick and EVERYONE involved!! The organizers, stage-hands, performers/composers, the photographer, the audio techs, et al. And, it's great to see lots of the performers/ composers also joining in to be included in the 'audience' to watch as 'fans!!" What a great way to support, learn and experience some very different music from our own and keep the ideas flowing. Looking forward to next year!! Fantastic!!! Beautiful, crazy, intense music, etc.!!! All of it . . terrific!! It was truly an inspiring experience. You're all just f 'n loopy. My kind of people. ;-) Cheers on a great Festival!!! Another Sacramento Bohemian, Mike On Oct 22, 2007, at 9:18 PM, greg williams wrote: > What a beautiful, inspiring weekend! I wholeheartedly concur with > the large > slathering of thanks being poured on Rick for pulling it off. One > of my > favorite moments of the festival was when the mayor surprised Rick > by giving > him the key to the city. An emotional moment, especially > considering how he > was giving a speech shortly before she arrived telling everyone how > proud he > is to be where he is, and how much he loves his city. Congrats Rick! > > Oh, in the 'let's thank everybody' category, thanks also to Krispen > for > recording the performances, and to Chris and Gretchen for working > the door > and selling CDs. > > I am glad I had a chance to give Per a pear. Did you enjoy the pear > Per? > > Greetings from Sacramento > Greg Williams > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 04:06:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F0603BF5E; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:06:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3254 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:06:16 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Larson Subject: Re: scripts Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:11:52 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc25.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:06:16 +0000 (UTC) > On Oct 14, 2007, at 9:08 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > > did i lost something since i can't find them on the online > mobius doc? maybe reading the examples for testing > the 1.30g beta is enough to figure out how to write them, ..uhm? Unfortunately there is no manual for the scripting lanugage. The best way to learn scripting is to post questions to the Mobius Yahoo group at groups.yahoo.com/group/zonemobius. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 04:06:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 615403BF65; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:06:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <004a01c80d9e$ebb37660$c31a6320$@com> References: <20071012153631.WAMUR.153036.root@fepweb01> <11975.34208.qm@web34312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <004a01c80d9e$ebb37660$c31a6320$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <34AC3EA7-B49B-46DA-9EA4-6AE6571DA832@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Larson Subject: Re: Midi Wizard controller - help needed Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:10:23 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc25.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:06:20 +0000 (UTC) > I acquired a new Rolls MidiWizard foot controller about a year ago. I'd > like to use it now to control Mobius and/or effects processors. The MidiWizard only sends program changes. You can use it to control Mobius but you will not be able to use any of the "sustain" or "long press" functions that require the pedal to send a MIDI note on/off when the switch does down and up. The easiest way to get it set up is to use the "MIDI capture" feature in the MIDI Control dialog. I see that the device can also be programmed to send up to 8 program changes with one switch. If yours was programmed that way it may confuse Mobius and behave inconsistently. See if there is some kind of global reset sequence. Use the MIDI-OX utility to see for sure what it is sending. > For example,some effects processors are expecting unlatched > or latched pedal presses. This sometimes means that they need a pedal that can send MIDI note or controller messages rather than program changes. You'll need to read the processor's MIDI implementation manual to see if it will work. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 04:20:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 245343BF67; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=AOmSy9baf3JBzWDtz2/jbz2En/BZf9uBE+bR6lIg2vI=; b=lNLbBSp/pp25CR9aFSpsEegVWsa/iWcmMsdpm7UXbb7DO0Gocgk+vMx9+bHNOwJgPJML8bmzCfzdtGuGbKYsqfUZjWteE0Mb3fGD7Pd7SnZkK1ymGYwq5jqgGiKp8m6nqA4flLl5FtRRVSchqBJNAiQfNLxdtEbX7Z5lYq4azjg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=m7vCAzLgAzDd5ODUD24c3VE7cJICGp5QpzjHWo+JHFh56xMnzVZlkixryzq74QdPUmZzeE4xGHRjYMqzjnQ0VcKeM1ZoGMOVD9h/B1AOgc0MAiuCEjrrY9x6yNY4ZMgX1RvGNhXmOkkcxWFfj/87F0yEFxRtHP7L/1vDYKJBNFY= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:20:13 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: scripts In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_20486_481283.1193113213779" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:20:15 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_20486_481283.1193113213779 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ok. jeff. i'll meet them there. thanks so much! raul. 2007/10/23, Jeffrey Larson : > > > Unfortunately there is no manual for the scripting lanugage. > The best way to learn scripting is to post questions to the > Mobius Yahoo group at groups.yahoo.com/group/zonemobius. > > Jeff > > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_20486_481283.1193113213779 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ok. jeff. i'll meet them there.
    thanks so much!
    raul.

    2007/10/23, Jeffrey Larson <jeff@zonemobius.com>:

    Unfortunately there is no manual for the scripting lanugage.
    The best way to learn scripting is to post questions to the
    Mobius Yahoo group at groups.yahoo.com/group/zonemobius .

    Jeff





    --
    The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_20486_481283.1193113213779-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 04:57:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6036F3BF6E; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3890 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:57:17 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: info at zoekeating Subject: video from the poptech conference Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:52:29 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:57:17 +0000 (UTC) Hello Loopers, Well, I missed Y2K but instead had the honor of performing at the Pop! Tech conference in Camden, ME a couple days ago (and where I still am). What an amazing conference!! (more about it at www.poptech.org) My brain is full. Anyway, video of my latest looping technique is up on youtube, courtesy of an iPhone in the audience. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy8diVKJ3Mg Thanks much. Hope to make it to Santa Cruz next year. bestest, Zoe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 05:32:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A43933BF6F; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:32:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <03e601c81535$fff93030$0100000a@bobdell> Reply-To: "Bob Amstadt" From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <20071012153631.WAMUR.153036.root@fepweb01> <11975.34208.qm@web34312.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <004a01c80d9e$ebb37660$c31a6320$@com> <34AC3EA7-B49B-46DA-9EA4-6AE6571DA832@zonemobius.com> Subject: Re: Midi Wizard controller - help needed Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 22:31:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 05:32:04 +0000 (UTC) > The MidiWizard only sends program changes. The MIDI Wizard can also send CC messages for the 8 inputs on the back of the unit. These could be pedals or simple switches. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 06:53:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E79B23BF65; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:53:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=x+o44mlUFlXDViUsmd9fb9SVlI8efPjWRSRO9+s0PDY=; b=WBJbEnqFLnC3FTLPOQ/WgztId4Dnx4FV+C2oT6EX9i5bz3RSGeVZiaMhBh7iH4dQmkdossVwdnBNmxjggOSM+jU4XE43FCtx8y2yI2+db9hc+/dlZsEBOc/7UMCKS+x+OOp+RrOq61N4/Oc0ZMBdgaV2Lc6KlIm2F516f7YbeOo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hHO6qQkEgvSlUnG8VvFnyq6iT2WjfU8yNjWcWHtcZb00ixO5tVOSqDHQVmi/zMs/z8EthrfEHdpObwWMruCd6yFa+z6LyvIe6SChsf6x0NZAU2OhjLcZA1M841HEpdgXNHLmEulb5M5zrTqY7Gu4l/fOa4ycUqI7sIIdXD7Bbgo= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0710222353k14cf71dbq25c6f050e948413b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 23:53:34 -0700 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loops compression In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12034_17284342.1193122414653" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 06:53:37 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_12034_17284342.1193122414653 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 10/22/07, Raul Bonell wrote: > > hi friends, > > looking to per's bidule diagrams for the california gig some askings > come to mind... > > what about multi-channel compression on the final stages of a > multi-track looper like mobius or sooperlooper, to clean the final > realtime mix, in spite of two channels comp? is a matter of > like/dislike? Yes. Both methods sound different. in order to not overload cpu's power?. Not so much, since compression plug-ins do not eat much CPU power. hei per.. may you tell us, bidule freaks, what's doing all those 16 > instances of "Tailprsrv" in the setup? It is a Bidule Group for preserving tails. When I switch to a new effect patch the old one stays open and does not get muted until its audio has gone silent. This makes reverb and delay stay natural. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) ------=_Part_12034_17284342.1193122414653 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 10/22/07, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
    hi friends,

    looking to per's bidule diagrams for the california gig some askings
    come to mind...

    what about multi-channel compression on the final stages of a
    multi-track looper like mobius or sooperlooper, to clean the final
    realtime mix, in spite of two channels comp? is a matter of
    like/dislike?

    Yes. Both methods sound different.
     

    in order to not overload cpu's power?.

    Not so much, since compression plug-ins do not eat much CPU power.
     

    hei per.. may you tell us, bidule freaks, what's doing all those 16
    instances of "Tailprsrv" in the setup?

    It is a Bidule Group for preserving tails. When I switch to a new effect patch the old one stays open and does not get muted until its audio has gone silent. This makes reverb and delay stay natural.


    --
    Greetings from Sweden

    Per Boysen
    www.boysen.se (Swedish)
    www.looproom.com (international)

    ------=_Part_12034_17284342.1193122414653-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 12:05:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A173B3BF71; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:05:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:05:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: UK looping gigs Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <471DF1AA.11025.F49CC9@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 12:05:50 +0000 (UTC) I've played a couple of gigs in the UK recently, at Norwich with Andy Butler and Stephen Scott, plus an open air gig in a farm in Sheffield, again with Stephen Scott. There's a short vid of an unrehearsed jamming duet recorded there http://youtube.com/watch?v=wN5z9FpZZ54 Watch out for the following! Norwich Arts Centre 17 Nov 1PM till 5PM International Festival of Live Looping A fabulous line up of artists, Michael Peters gtr(Germany), Per Boysen TBC (Sweden), Darkroom(with special guest Andy Booker drms), Matt Stevens ac gtr, Steven Scott gtr and andy butler. 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VISA Security Team From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 13:52:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3574D3BF71; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:52:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <61902.72.22.136.126.1193147627.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:53:47 -0400 (AST) Subject: Re: video from the poptech conference From: "Andre' Donawa" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: Hostbaby Webmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <1rRVhC.A.L1E.ByfHHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:52:02 +0000 (UTC) Hi Zoe, Wow! Great performance. You're the first cello looper I've ever heard. Wish I could have been there. I was wondering what software do you use? I use an Echoplex but it's starting to give up the ghost. Looking forward to any new clips. Andre What's your setup like? On Mon, October 22, 2007 11:52 pm, info at zoekeating wrote: > Hello Loopers, > > Well, I missed Y2K but instead had the honor of performing at the Pop! > Tech conference in Camden, ME a couple days ago (and where I still am). > What an amazing conference!! (more about it at www.poptech.org) My > brain is full. > > Anyway, video of my latest looping technique is up on youtube, > courtesy of an iPhone in the audience. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy8diVKJ3Mg > > Thanks much. Hope to make it to Santa Cruz next year. > > bestest, Zoe > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 14:25:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16AA03BF79; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_0cce0079-8f80-4675-96d9-8fc35e6915a3_" X-Originating-IP: [151.37.68.56] From: Lorenzo Orlandini To: Subject: RE: video from the poptech conference Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:23:52 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <61902.72.22.136.126.1193147627.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> References: <61902.72.22.136.126.1193147627.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Oct 2007 14:23:52.0669 (UTC) FILETIME=[5639E0D0:01C81580] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:25:15 +0000 (UTC) --_0cce0079-8f80-4675-96d9-8fc35e6915a3_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Great video Zoe, excellent job.=20 I was wandering what software you use too. And also, is that a Behringer FC= 1010? I just bought one, the postman just delivered it, I cant wait to star= t using it.=20 I also like the other video I found on youtube, I like your work.=20 all the best,=20 Lorenzo > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:53:47 -0400 > Subject: Re: video from the poptech conference > From: andre@andredonawa.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >=20 > Hi Zoe, >=20 > Wow! >=20 > Great performance. > You're the first cello looper I've ever heard. > Wish I could have been there. >=20 > I was wondering what software do you use? > I use an Echoplex but it's starting to give up the ghost. >=20 > Looking forward to any new clips. >=20 > Andre >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > What's your setup like? > On Mon, October 22, 2007 11:52 pm, info at zoekeating wrote: > > Hello Loopers, > > > > Well, I missed Y2K but instead had the honor of performing at the Pop! > > Tech conference in Camden, ME a couple days ago (and where I still am). > > What an amazing conference!! (more about it at www.poptech.org) My > > brain is full. > > > > Anyway, video of my latest looping technique is up on youtube, > > courtesy of an iPhone in the audience. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXy8diVKJ3Mg > > > > Thanks much. Hope to make it to Santa Cruz next year. > > > > bestest, Zoe > > > > >=20 >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Scarica GRATIS le emoticon della tua squadra del cuore e il calendario di s= erie A! http://www.emoticons-livemessenger.com/pages/msnitcalcio/index.htm= --_0cce0079-8f80-4675-96d9-8fc35e6915a3_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Great video Zoe,= excellent job.
    I was wandering what software you use too. And also, is= that a Behringer FC1010? I just bought one, the postman just delivered it,= I cant wait to start using it.

    I also like the other video I found= on youtube, I like your work.

    all the best,

    Lorenzo



    > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:53:47= -0400
    > Subject: Re: video from the poptech conference
    > From:= andre@andredonawa.com
    > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    &= gt;
    > Hi Zoe,
    >
    > Wow!
    >
    > Great performan= ce.
    > You're the first cello looper I've ever heard.
    > Wish I c= ould have been there.
    >
    > I was wondering what software do you= use?
    > I use an Echoplex but it's starting to give up the ghost.
    = >
    > Looking forward to any new clips.
    >
    > Andre
    &= gt;
    >
    >
    >
    > What's your setup like?
    > On = Mon, October 22, 2007 11:52 pm, info at zoekeating wrote:
    > > Hell= o Loopers,
    > >
    > > Well, I missed Y2K but instead had the= honor of performing at the Pop!
    > > Tech conference in Camden, ME= a couple days ago (and where I still am).
    > > What an amazing con= ference!! (more about it at www.poptech.org) My
    > > brain is full.=
    > >
    > > Anyway, video of my latest looping technique is = up on youtube,
    > > courtesy of an iPhone in the audience.
    > = >
    > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXy8diVKJ3Mg
    > >=
    > > Thanks much. Hope to make it to Santa Cruz next year.
    >= >
    > > bestest, Zoe
    > >
    > >
    >
    > =

    Con Windows Live Messenger condividi file senza limiti di p= eso! = Windows Live Messenger = --_0cce0079-8f80-4675-96d9-8fc35e6915a3_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 14:47:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF66D3BF72; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:47:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: video from the poptech conference Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:47:49 -0700 Message-ID: <000c01c81583$aedbab30$0c930190$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgVMo7lwm2zccMxRKmHK3PpYntaCgAUQ98g Content-Language: en-us X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: D0bce02e40000d3a6.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: <7ZmpsB.A.pHH.KmgHHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:47:38 +0000 (UTC) Beautiful !! -----Original Message----- From: info at zoekeating [mailto:info@zoekeating.com] Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 8:52 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: video from the poptech conference Hello Loopers, Well, I missed Y2K but instead had the honor of performing at the Pop! Tech conference in Camden, ME a couple days ago (and where I still am). What an amazing conference!! (more about it at www.poptech.org) My brain is full. Anyway, video of my latest looping technique is up on youtube, courtesy of an iPhone in the audience. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy8diVKJ3Mg Thanks much. Hope to make it to Santa Cruz next year. bestest, Zoe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 15:30:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3230E3BF71; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:30:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: <61902.72.22.136.126.1193147627.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-97865213 Message-Id: <46F4CC62-8FE2-46BB-901D-1064CAE8D27E@zoekeating.com> From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: video from the poptech conference Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:30:29 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:30:35 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-97865213 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed thanks! tis ableton live + 2 electrix repeaters, and the FCB1010 as a foot controller On Oct 23, 2007, at 10:23 AM, Lorenzo Orlandini wrote: > Great video Zoe, excellent job. > I was wandering what software you use too. And also, is that a > Behringer FC1010? I just bought one, the postman just delivered it, > I cant wait to start using it. > > I al --Apple-Mail-2-97865213 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII thanks!

    tis ableton live + 2 = electrix repeaters, and the FCB1010 as a foot controller


    On Oct 23, = 2007, at 10:23 AM, Lorenzo Orlandini wrote:

    Great video Zoe, excellent job. =
    I was wandering what = software you use too. And also, is that a Behringer FC1010? I just = bought one, the postman just delivered it, I cant wait to start using = it.

    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: sort of OT. Fun lunchtime drummer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <7s30sC.A.ZbC.4ahHHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:43:52 +0000 (UTC) I was cleaning out some downloads and I came across this fun little drumming loop app from Bram Bos (Hammerhead, Tuareg) called Lunchbox. He wrote it for the KVR challenge and it is hella-fun to play with. http://www.kvraudio.com/developer_challenge/2006/Lunchbox.zip -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 17:10:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01C383BF73; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2963 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:10:32 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <46F4CC62-8FE2-46BB-901D-1064CAE8D27E@zoekeating.com> References: <61902.72.22.136.126.1193147627.squirrel@www.andredonawa.com> <46F4CC62-8FE2-46BB-901D-1064CAE8D27E@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-100897521 Message-Id: <284985C1-0B4B-4771-AA92-71BC2500CF6C@mikecrain.com> From: Mike Crain Subject: Re: video from the poptech conference Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:21:02 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ez7.ez-web-hosting.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - mikecrain.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:10:32 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-100897521 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Yes!! Fantastic Zoe!! Would love to collaborate with you some time if that ever becomes possible. I use Live and the FCB1010 as well so there would be no problem networking them and using other fun stuff too. ;-) To all: What are electrix repeaters? and what do they do? mc On Oct 23, 2007, at 8:30 AM, info at zoekeating wrote: > thanks! > > tis ableton live + 2 electrix repeaters, and the FCB1010 as a foot > controller > > > On Oct 23, 2007, at 10:23 AM, Lorenzo Orlandini wrote: > >> Great video Zoe, excellent job. >> I was wandering what software you use too. And also, is that a >> Behringer FC1010? I just bought one, the postman just delivered >> it, I cant wait to start using it. >> >> I al > --Apple-Mail-2-100897521 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Yes!! Fantastic Zoe!! Would love = to collaborate with you some time if that ever becomes possible. I use = Live and the FCB1010 as well so there would be no problem networking = them and using other fun stuff too. ;-)

    To all: What are electrix = repeaters? and what do they do?

    mc

    On= Oct 23, 2007, at 8:30 AM, info at zoekeating wrote:

    thanks!

    tis ableton live + 2 = electrix repeaters, and the FCB1010 as a foot controller


    On Oct 23, = 2007, at 10:23 AM, Lorenzo Orlandini wrote:

    Great video Zoe, excellent job. =
    I was wandering what = software you use too. And also, is that a Behringer FC1010? I just = bought one, the postman just delivered it, I cant wait to start using = it.

    wrote: > Hello Loopers, > > Well, I missed Y2K but instead had the honor of performing at the Pop! > Tech conference in Camden, ME a couple days ago (and where I still am). > What an amazing conference!! (more about it at www.poptech.org) My > brain is full. > > Anyway, video of my latest looping technique is up on youtube, > courtesy of an iPhone in the audience. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xy8diVKJ3Mg > > Thanks much. Hope to make it to Santa Cruz next year. > > bestest, Zoe > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 18:41:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF7283BEC7; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:40:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <380-2200710223184057324@M2W029.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: qua@oregon.com X-Originating-IP: 134.134.136.4 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "qua@oregon.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:40:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Questions for Kaoss Pad users Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:40:59 +0000 (UTC) I understand that you can use the KP3 to store, and then trigger/play pre-recorded found sounds=2E Can these be played back without any 'beats= ' being heard=3F I just want to play back the sounds as they were recorded= =2E =20 What is the approx max length of a file(sample) that can be stored for playback=3F If you have, say 50 sounds on your storage card, how many can you assign t= o buttons for instant playback (and apply fx, mangle, loop them etc to them in realtime) =3F=20 What is the max length of a sample (found sound) that can be looped by the= KP3 on playback=3F=20 How many samples (some short , some very long) that can be played back at the same time=3F thanks! -Qua -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting=2Ecom - Premium Microsoft=AE Windows=AE and Linux web and applic= ation hosting - http://link=2Emyhosting=2Ecom/myhosting From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 21:53:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E9803BF81; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 381 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:53:13 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=yViUuhlBnYMQ+KLso6J5Gh7PstDAiZ7/HVGbwOleQ3A=; b=K1AXOFwqVw7tCuHKJFsN42FGHFNqm5FLF6Q5+vY3KmwjYzFD2hIdnM1qvhw5aUmcU25rZ5tltqDAiwRr6eO9Og8D2OPZOywBDUqkR0zZ957C8PV46X7veVAnm6dtvSxeg/SmEwIh6Pn+wjZ/IqBfFDC2E7BNPYFVDsMe04biN2M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TgQFQZRC+HXJ1+pJl0wHsKq5d8H6Wyqca1g69D+ZYDwRK2dTRI03yx0QqRiWdy57fQ/tL6ZejZAjv9J7qS2sXThhRtloq3+BwyJEwxtEE+8W927IMCPK02ZYB56Xo0oElsQ2u5Q5BM62y4YVrbAc4lenF5jSGcoPAElvDLdvSf8= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:46:51 -0700 From: "Matt Davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K7 - thanks to Rick and the performers! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <002601c8152b$cc94f3f0$eb9c0718@gwdesk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Hi everyone, Thanks for rockin' it at the LoopFestival this last weekend. I had a blast in the few hours I was there. I wish I could've stayed longer, but I was petsitting for a friend. I really enjoyed the few sets I was able to hear. Additional thanks to the folks who made it happen - Rick Walker, Rodent, Chris Cohn, Mark Hamburg, Krispen Hartung, and the guy running the sound boards whose name I didn't get! Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 22:16:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0FED43BF86; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:16:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 363 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:16:18 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=uh2+HOHC7Xkejn2aRYgpXpxEnHuju8UJlQ5T6Nzznl0=; b=HaPGj+Cemw1i2EMPT5U3nX6wEq9oVpbJsOF4AbqCtsuMItZLFin/SIg+oKELmbbf0QGtlS/f+H34Wl0n2sycRfk9PTAOpgm+Wj+qKp5LN3djWIVkj00xBBhZOhh+V0Slyruvflw17SXN43i/1mQyU/8k5gwQqj7B0Ww6D62I04k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JAYxVedvN9vT6Y7iAzbmUPk+YVliNppsbNQOGu9b0wWzIzgVMLS4NbAIjoPvFd2plru3WNU2FoWX5r7FqRgNlIHPq5MwTrY9q5D/wli/macMGeRSkAfewUYzp6AuwDIn4XFfI1PLgY327tLDJSlQ7Z22+D09kVL4wOF7Y1RTX5Y= Message-ID: <9e0440a60710231509v2629f446m89c254afaeb6df6f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:09:44 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K7 - thanks to Rick and the performers! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3493_20616022.1193177384097" References: <002601c8152b$cc94f3f0$eb9c0718@gwdesk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:16:19 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3493_20616022.1193177384097 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I replied earlier thanks to Rick and Mark but overlooked some of the people Matt just pointed and would echo that, Rodent, Krispen and the sound guy Mega Mike did a great job. Though there were a few grimlins haunting the evening sets at times it's never easy being in Mike's chair and musicians can be quick to pass judgement towards the sound guy. Saddly I don't know who Chris was but kudos to him as well and someone mentioned the two folks running the swag table, would echo tremendous thanx to them as that is an underappreciated role that we all need in this day/age of diminishing CD sales. For those of you who performed on Friday and Sunday I"m sorry that I didn't get a chance to hear you, due to our performance schedule of Chinapaintingwe were limited to the one day in Santa Cruz, still it was a great day there and great tour for us. Glad I got to connect with some faces that have been names through the wire. Jim www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic www.jimgoodinmusic.com On 10/23/07, Matt Davignon wrote: > > Hi everyone, > ------=_Part_3493_20616022.1193177384097 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    I replied earlier thanks to Rick and Mark but overlooked some of the people Matt just pointed and would echo that, Rodent, Krispen and the sound guy Mega Mike did a great job.  Though there were a few grimlins haunting the evening sets at times it's never easy being in Mike's chair and musicians can be quick to pass judgement towards the sound guy.   Saddly I don't know who Chris was but kudos to him as well and someone mentioned the two folks running the swag table, would echo tremendous thanx to them as that is an underappreciated role that we all need in this day/age of diminishing CD sales.
     
    For those of you who performed on Friday and Sunday I"m sorry that I didn't get a chance to hear you, due to our performance schedule of Chinapainting we were limited to the one day in Santa Cruz, still it was a great day there and great tour for us.
     
    Glad I got to connect with some faces that have been names through the wire. 
     
    Jim
     
     
    On 10/23/07, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com> wrote:
    Hi everyone,
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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 23:39:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FC373BF87; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:39:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:39:35 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Fro6aK4VMYUiVfCwUexTCAUid98mGdnx9Os52N50uPo=; b=sAcHOuLEYTLifIYEZJ5jqhjR08T/seetKrC8djFA8UG5FoOOf+woRtbq5VyCwdvbVOKu35oI4//Pt67exEf4tYazXeTqjCIaDVpb3O0AeuyrO/dQPB3pn0KOBZi9i8mPLp+mf/omOlNjFkdgmbemWqIA2UBzKeRGtBBOPnkEs2c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=sEbVU8v4h3lXZvUjxa2AjBzOi6Ur9vbvDK7N6Nmec1+HafizJW9Qgzk9fTyTZMudTOf9L+YJbVFDokuLz9JaSyJiJ3T5Wv+LIHtoi2H0S6lBd+EVeCQVRFZ0XjYNTQypCS8WNKfcJLx5gxf39lsq0kYtjRX4494Kb8xrfe4ev4U= Message-ID: <46fea78d0710231632m2c9f2a2axe1679699f90ab99@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:32:53 -0700 From: "David H" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Colored MacBook shells In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20071023034916.00ba4480@mail.onemodelplace.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4401_30335808.1193182373931" References: <990713.24741.qm@web38614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20071023034916.00ba4480@mail.onemodelplace.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:39:36 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4401_30335808.1193182373931 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Oh, mine's a 13" MacBook, plain 'ole white. Factory standard except upgraded to 2GB of memory. I'm a hardware looper (2 Lexicon JamMans), and mostly use the mac for recording. Actually, I just received the firewire card for my Onyx mixer today! The mixer itself comes tomorrow... :) I may eventually get into software looping, but I'm taking it one slow step at a time. What do you have running on yours? Whalie ------=_Part_4401_30335808.1193182373931 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Oh, mine's a 13" MacBook, plain 'ole white. Factory standard except upgraded to 2GB of memory.

    I'm a hardware looper (2 Lexicon JamMans), and mostly use the mac for recording. Actually, I just received the firewire card for my Onyx mixer today! The mixer itself comes tomorrow... :)   I may eventually get into software looping, but I'm taking it one slow step at a time. What do you have running on yours?

    Whalie

    ------=_Part_4401_30335808.1193182373931-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 23 23:57:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D3C43BF81; Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:57:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=kewSCkkeJuz+8TRw84xeRhlG6RkhJSIl2/S3s/5dCfsbPWCbJ6ihhYIpZODf5XaSiZMEU47lQdUiQFjpuc8tdcTuVUcn/AwLBQ/hoFOkI+yiOh1aaJNvrhZHAQ8skgRhPmE2c4zsxkv1d7f9fmK6WnokkNJRFiK1QArkNSkWYNo=; X-YMail-OSG: DnPS7RwVM1lRDHHShVFHCfNbqzCihuAX3oBH9fwncrgt1CZr4udQplenm_uqZ_3IC9hxuOOLPEM.LY_PNq.hkbPtbiY.kP.fSJSos_CFxiis2PEya7s- Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:57:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Y2K7 - thanks to Rick and the performers! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <196773ef58be2eec01150c582315d38f@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <873629.68932.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 23:57:23 +0000 (UTC) Hey Ted, man from all the talk it sounds like it was an exciting experience,Rick is definetly the man to thank, too bad i wasnt there but hopefully next year,by the way if you want to xchage Cds i will be happy to as well! cheers Luis --- tEd ® KiLLiAn wrote: > Qua and all, > > It was great to meet up with you again Qua. > > I just got home this evening from my 7 hour drive > home from Santa Cruz. > > Wow, this is one of the best Y2K fests in a long > time. > > Boy, am I really glad I didn't play this year. > > It gave me more of a chance to get inspired (rather > than depressed, > heheh) and did I ever. > > During my drive home I got to listen to newly > acquired CDs by: > > Leander Reininghaus > Randolf Arriola > Matthias Grob > Fabio Anile > Erdem Helvacioglu > Henry Kaiser > Greg Williams > and Matt davignon > > I am so totally stoked on the experience. > > I gotta get on Amazon quick and buy some Arild > Andersen CDs too > > Thanks Rick and everyone who had a hand in this > year's show. > > It was a knockout. > > Also thanks to guitarist/photographer Mark Hamburg > and his lovely > family for their hospitality in putting me up for a > weekend. > > Qua, we Oregonian loopers need to do something up > here. > > Cheers, > > Ted > > On Oct 21, 2007, at 7:26 PM, Qua Veda wrote: > > > I just got back from Y2K7. Had to leave Sunday > morning, but I got to > > see all > > the performers Friday and Saturday. WOW !! The > music was fabulous! > > Thanks to all the performers and *especially* to > Rick and his friends > > for > > all their hard work! > > > > -Qua > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 00:20:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 187293BF8A; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:19:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:19:59 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <35B29A67-98F3-470B-AB50-91F15C236A13@craigjgreen.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Craig Green Subject: Big Thanks Y2K7 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:16:39 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:19:59 +0000 (UTC) Hi All, Just wanted to thank everyone involved in the Y2K7 Festival. Rick and company did such a wonderful job with organizing the event, hosting the artist and making all feel welcome. This was my fist time performing at the event and I look forward to playing again in the future. Cheers, Craig Green From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 01:34:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6667C3BF8B; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 01:34:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,321,1188741600"; d="scan'208,217";a="80244990" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C815DD.F9E7FFD3" Subject: Help: New to software looping Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:34:10 +1000 Message-ID: <9C151BE24B28B54D870B5F89BD87EBCE9BDFFC@aaunsw745.au.cbainet.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Help: New to software looping Thread-Index: AcgV3fm245rQCFQUTLu1WDirmfKJeA== From: "Sowonja, Tomson" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Oct 2007 01:34:10.0790 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA182060:01C815DD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 01:34:26 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C815DD.F9E7FFD3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everyone, I've been a long time reader of the list and have only rarely contributed.=20 My introduction to looping was the Akai Headrush 2 I purchased early last year. It still gets allot of use on stage - I play in a pretty jammy psych rock band here in Sydney.=20 My use of the Headrush is fairly conventional - being the only guitarist in the band I sometimes make little rhythm guitar loops in jam sections - or harmony guitar lines in various places.=20 I also purchased a Digitech Jamman which plays looped samples every now or then (or to use when practicing or writing riffs) or to capture the output of the Headrush on stage.=20 I've slowly come to understand (after reading the manuals/information on for the repeater, looperlative and EDP as well as posts by many of the wonderful posters to this list) the sheer breadth of possibilities with a more high performance looper.=20 I've also started to use my laptop more and thought that a software looper is the way to go. My computer skills (while not basic) are pretty limited though so I don't think I will tackle anything like Max/MSP yet.=20 I have given it considerable thought and feel that trying to come to grips with Mobius will be the way to go (having time off from work over November and December to experiment definitely contributes to that decision). I have ordered from eBay a MIDI Foot controller (the FCB 1010 - which seems to be the most common in use as well as affordable) - however I've never programmed MIDI before being a bit of a luddite - I'm definitely a stomp box kinda guitar player.=20 Is anyone able to help me with my first forays into MIDI programming by either offering tips/hints or pointing me to a good reference source on the web?=20 How do people who use Mobius with the FCB 1010 usually set up their banks and commands on the foot controller?=20 Any info is greatly appreciated.=20 Cheers Tom ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE ***************************** =20 This e-mail message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains info= rmation which may be confidential.=20 If you are not the intended recipient please advise the sender by return em= ail, do not use or disclose the contents, and delete the message and any attachments from your= system. Unless specifically indicated, this email does not constitute formal advice or com= mitment by the sender or the Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) or its subsidiar= ies.=20 We can be contacted through our web site: commbank.com.au.=20 If you no longer wish to receive commercial electronic messages from us, pl= ease reply to this e-mail by typing Unsubscribe in the subject line.=20 ************************************************************** ------_=_NextPart_001_01C815DD.F9E7FFD3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Help: New to software looping

    Hi Everyone,

    I've been a long time reader of the list a= nd have only rarely contributed.

    My introduction to looping was the Akai He= adrush 2 I purchased early last year. It still gets allot of use on stage -= I play in a pretty jammy psych rock band here in Sydney.

    My use of the Headrush is fairly conventio= nal - being the only guitarist in the band I sometimes make little rhythm g= uitar loops in jam sections - or harmony guitar lines in various places.

    I also purchased a Digitech Jamman which p= lays looped samples every now or then (or to use when practicing or writing= riffs) or to capture the output of the Headrush on stage.

    I've slowly come to understand (after read= ing the manuals/information on for the repeater, looperlative and EDP as we= ll as posts by many of the wonderful posters to this list) the sheer breadt= h of possibilities with a more high performance looper.

    I've also started to use my laptop more an= d thought that a software looper is the way to go.

    My computer skills (while not basic) are p= retty limited though so I don't think I will tackle anything like Max/MSP y= et.

    I have given it considerable thought and f= eel that trying to come to grips with Mobius will be the way to go (having = time off from work over November and December to experiment definitely cont= ributes to that decision).

    I have ordered from eBay a MIDI Foot contr= oller (the FCB 1010 - which seems to be the most common in use as well as a= ffordable) - however I've never programmed MIDI before being a bit of a lud= dite - I'm definitely a stomp box kinda guitar player.

    Is anyone able to help me with my first fo= rays into MIDI programming by either offering tips/hints or pointing me to = a good reference source on the web?

    How do people who use Mobius with the FCB = 1010 usually set up their banks and commands on the foot controller?

    Any info is greatly appreciated.

    Cheers
    Tom 

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    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C815DD.F9E7FFD3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 01:52:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E084B3BF94; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 01:52:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_85035a1f-83f6-4b13-b96c-fc7e078aebf9_" X-Originating-IP: [24.5.195.99] From: aaron leese To: Subject: RE: Big Thanks Y2K7 Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 21:52:41 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <35B29A67-98F3-470B-AB50-91F15C236A13@craigjgreen.com> References: <35B29A67-98F3-470B-AB50-91F15C236A13@craigjgreen.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Oct 2007 01:52:42.0565 (UTC) FILETIME=[90C38750:01C815E0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 01:52:43 +0000 (UTC) --_85035a1f-83f6-4b13-b96c-fc7e078aebf9_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20 sure ... ditto to all thirty of those last email. > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> From: craig@craigjgreen.com> Sub= ject: Big Thanks Y2K7 > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:16:39 -0700> > Hi All,> >= Just wanted to thank everyone involved in the Y2K7 Festival. Rick > and co= mpany did such a wonderful job with organizing the event, > hosting the art= ist and making all feel welcome. This was my fist > time performing at the = event and I look forward to playing again in > the future.> > Cheers,> > Cr= aig Green>=20 _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook =96 together at last. =A0= Get it now. http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook/HA102225181033.aspx?pid=3DCL10062= 6971033= --_85035a1f-83f6-4b13-b96c-fc7e078aebf9_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  
     
    sure ... ditto to all thirty of those last email.


    > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    > From: craig@cr= aigjgreen.com
    > Subject: Big Thanks Y2K7
    > Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2= 007 18:16:39 -0700
    >
    > Hi All,
    >
    > Just wanted to= thank everyone involved in the Y2K7 Festival. Rick
    > and company di= d such a wonderful job with organizing the event,
    > hosting the arti= st and making all feel welcome. This was my fist
    > time performing a= t the event and I look forward to playing again in
    > the future.
    = >
    > Cheers,
    >
    > Craig Green
    >


    Windows Live Hotmail and Microsoft Office Outlook =96 together at last.= Get it now! = --_85035a1f-83f6-4b13-b96c-fc7e078aebf9_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 05:48:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 798ED3BF8C; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 05:48:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3833 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 05:48:04 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=ZsjyGSOElhxDBvANQo9VVBK1ltyRsAEGuVRat2/HreY=; b=LCpRR7T2yQvTxkmywB579DJe28cjO3L4XcoErcnhAppmHawc0d9g3FXjhDpaEU8nzGOiOcJKyUYaBI3CJB4xUWmw++kam4turkRDQSe7VkqskqcvaVskWCVWU+e6X2ik5NKuEs+PLIdTRcZzDSj4O0FrwGhuLwhXXkIemB2MjJE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; b=nQODmGWtSnJNGLpsriM8DzhelL7TMk6M019lPTMJWnteNfZdh6aNxdRWMaVaw/gMVL3lu5t4WG1xMV/mFWa4UUdwrhX7WHeclccx3jtE49y1N/XNeEOggsQdHoU50hp40dZqQHmE18gITzL4Z5qp2CohU1TjTBUswRimpSnvBR4= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:44:08 -0600 From: "C3's Gig List" Sender: modulus10@gmail.com To: gigs@christophercardone.com Subject: The Trooper Tour Continues! - Help raise money for Trooper Zachariah Templeton's family and enjoy some great experimental music! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2711_13537434.1193201048911" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 0c8d43ecbb2adfb2 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 05:48:05 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2711_13537434.1193201048911 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello Everyone! Well I cant believe how well the 1st official "Trooper Tour" show went. There was a good steady flow of VERY generous people at Noa Noa, and I received over $200 in donations! I would like to thank everyone who stopped in and dropped a few bucks in the case. I would like to send out an extra special thank you to the mystery individual who left the $100 bill in the tin. That was above and beyond the call and I thank you from the bottom of my heart, that was truly an amazing gesture on your behalf, and I cannot thank you enough! It really brought tears to my eyes to see that kind of generosity. You don't have to tell us who you are, just know that we appreciate what you did! This Saturday we do it all again! I really love playing music at Noa Noa, the people there are amazing, Jay, JD, and especially Stacy, have been nothing but warm inviting friends, and i thank them for their help in this great cause! There are pictures from the performance on the main page of my site at www.christophercardone.com. So what can you do to help the cause? Simple...tell everyone you know about the shows! Let them know where we are, and when we are playing. Every little bit helps! Also you can help by bugging the media outlets, and let them know whats going on. It would be great to see them help spread the word! (see the contact list at the end of this email for ways to get the medias attention!) I would also like to invite all of you to my website, to download 8 complete CD's of music - just go to www.christophercardone.com and at the bottom of the page you will see links to my first solo CD, the Lateral Thinking Sampler, the first Cosmic Pond CD, and 5 full length live recordings of Cosmic Pond! Please enjoy this music and feel free to copy and distribute to your friends! Just make sure you let them know where you got it, and tell them to stop in and check out a performance! Thank you everyone! C3 October 27th 2007 8am to 11am (the Morning Rush!) NOA NOA Espresso and News 109 Rubey Drive (Highway 93 and Iowa Drive) Golden Colorado 303.277.0303 Media Contact Information: The Denver Post - esmith@thedenverpost.com Rocky Mountain News - rassenfossj@rockymountainnews.com, mehelm@rockymountainnews.com Westword - dave.herrera@westword.com OnStage - onstagenews@aol.com KCUV - Jhayes@kcuvradio.com KUVO - arturo@kuvo.org Channel 4 - community@cps4denver.com 303-830-6477 oe use their submission page at www.cbs4denver.com Channel 7 - newstips@thedenverchannel.com or morningshow@thedenverchannel.com 303-832-8477 or use their submission page at www.thedenverchannel.com Channel 9 - ann.king@9news.com or use their submission page at www.9news.com -- Christopher "C3" Cardone Solo Bassist and Looping Artist ------=_Part_2711_13537434.1193201048911 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello Everyone!

    Well I cant believe how well the 1st official "Trooper Tour" show went.  There was a good steady flow of VERY generous people at Noa Noa, and I received over $200 in donations!  I would like to thank everyone who stopped in and dropped a few bucks in the case.

    I would like to send out an extra special thank you to the mystery individual who left the $100 bill in the tin.  That was above and beyond the call and I thank you from the bottom of my heart, that was truly an amazing gesture on your behalf, and I cannot thank you enough!  It really brought tears to my eyes to see that kind of generosity. You don't have to tell us who you are, just know that we appreciate what you did!

    This Saturday we do it all again!

    I really love playing music at Noa Noa, the people there are amazing, Jay, JD, and especially Stacy, have been nothing but warm inviting friends, and i thank them for their help in this great cause!  There are pictures from the performance on the main page of my site at www.christophercardone.com.

    So what can you do to help the cause?  Simple...tell everyone you know about the shows!  Let them know where we are, and when we are playing.  Every little bit helps!  Also you can help by bugging the media outlets, and let them know whats going on.  It would be great to see them help spread the word! (see the contact list at the end of this email for ways to get the medias attention!)

    I would also like to invite all of you to my website, to download 8 complete CD's of music - just go to www.christophercardone.com and at the bottom of the page you will see links to my first solo CD, the Lateral Thinking Sampler, the first Cosmic Pond CD, and 5 full length live recordings of Cosmic Pond!  Please enjoy this music and feel free to copy and distribute to your friends!  Just make sure you let them know where you got it, and tell them to stop in and check out a performance!

    Thank you everyone!

    C3

    October 27th 2007 8am to 11am (the Morning Rush!)
    NOA NOA Espresso and News
    109 Rubey Drive (Highway 93 and Iowa Drive)
    Golden Colorado
    303.277.0303


    Media Contact Information:

    The Denver Post - esmith@thedenverpost.com
    Rocky Mountain News - rassenfossj@rockymountainnews.com, mehelm@rockymountainnews.com
    Westword - dave.herrera@westword.com
    OnStage - onstagenews@aol.com

    KCUV - Jhayes@kcuvradio.com
    KUVO - arturo@kuvo.org

    Channel 4 - community@cps4denver.com 303-830-6477 oe use their submission page at www.cbs4denver.com
    Channel 7 - newstips@thedenverchannel.com or morningshow@thedenverchannel.com 303-832-8477 or use their submission page at www.thedenverchannel.com
    Channel 9 - ann.king@9news.com or use their submission page at www.9news.com



    --
    Christopher "C3" Cardone
    Solo Bassist and Looping Artist

    ------=_Part_2711_13537434.1193201048911-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 07:22:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 284883BEA9; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <017101c8160e$77dd3c80$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" , "MEGABYTE MIKE" , "AARON LEESE" , "ADAM ANTIUM the PLUM" , "ARILD ANDERSEN" , "BARRY CLEVELAND" , "BEAU CASEY (Cypod)" , "BILL WALKER" , "BOB AMSTADT" , "CARL WEINGARTEN" , "CHINA PAINTING (Daryl Shawn)" , "CHINA PAINTING (Jim Goodin)" , "CPR aka Chris Roberts" , "CRAIG GREEN (bemf artist)" , "CRAIG McCOLLOUGH" , "CYOAKHA" , "DANIEL THOMAS 1" , "Daniel Thomas_2" , "Daniel Thomas at APPLE" , "DUKE SEXTON" , "ERDEM HELVACIOGLU (Turkey)" , "FABIO ANILE" , "GARY REGINA" , "GENIE" , "GLENN SMITH" , "GREG WILLIAMS" , "HARRY WEINBERG" , "HENRY KAISER" , "JD DEVROS" , "JOE RUT - Lumper/Splitter" , "KEVIN KISSINGER" , "KRISPEN HARTUNG" , "LEANDER REININGHAUS" , "MARK HAMBURG" , "MATT DAVIGNON" , "MATTHIAS GROB" , "MICHAEL KLOBUCHAR" , "MOJOW and the VIBRATION ARMY" , "PETER COR" , "RANDOLF ARRIOLA (Singapore looper)" , "Rick Walker/Loop.pooL" , "SCOTT HUCKABAY" Cc: "RANDOLF ARRIOLA (Singapore looper)" Subject: y2k7 festival thanks Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:20:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Hi everyone, >From the bottom of my heart I want to thank everyone for making the Y2K7 Loopfest the best festival I've ever experienced. It was truly wonderful this year and I feel so deeply grateful to the following people for making it be so: Gretchen McPherson and Chris Cohn for helping me to write and secure the grant from the Arts Council of Santa Cruz and for doing the door for all 30 hours of the festival Megabyte Mike for doing the sound under frequently tough circumstances and for constantly striving for a better and more professional sound Rodent for being one of the most professional stage managers I've ever worked with (and I've worked with dozens in my career). I hardly noticed you at times which is the hugest of all compliments. Bill Walker for lending his soundsytem, setting it up, putting out at least a half a dozen fires even after you had committed to just be a performer this year. I couldn't have done it without you. For putting up artists and giving up your studio for a week. Mark Hamburg for expertly photo-documenting the whole festival..........you created several shots that artists should use for their main website photos. It was stunning that you delivered DVDs of artists photos AS THEY WALKED OFF STAGE. Krispen Hartung for recording the festival even after deciding not to do it officially this year. I can't wait to hear what you came up with. Ted Killian for making yet another beautiful and professional poster (with 10,000 revisions) Bob Beede for making donating the huge festival posters. Chris Wedertz and Nancy LeVan, Bill's and my beautiful talented wives who worked so hard to host our artists, make food, ferry them around, taking them to and from the airports, loading gear, cleaning up the venue when we were exhausted and generally keeping the vibe wonderful and upbeat during the whole week, and especially for keeping me sane and putting up with my neurotic, manic stressed out behaviour for weeks' before the festival. Mayor Emily Reilly, who was so gracious in presenting the keys to the city and who completely floored me when she presented me with a key to the city. Santa Cruz is so lucky to have the best mayor in it's history as long as I've lived in the town (36 years). Michael Horne For renting us the venue but going way out of his way to accomodate us...provide us with facilities that would normally cost far more that we could afford. For being so upbeat. Aaron Leese for his technology premiere of the new software looping app, FlyLoop. Brian Eder and Cherri Lakey for hosting us at the Anno Domini Gallery..........you guys are a godsend for the arts in the South Bay. Mickey T and the artists of the Drum Machine Museum for hosting us in Oakland To all the Artists who performed.............. .for your beautiful and creative presentations; for your extremely strong communal attitudes and generous spirit; for all the little errands and favors that you all did to make my job so much easier; for all the artistic inspiration that has me so turned on , creatively and desiring to learn even more about live looping. To Fabio Anile (Italy), Leander Reininghaus (Germany), Erdem Helvacioglu (Turkey), Arild Anderesen (Norway), Henry Kaiser (USA), Randolf Arriola (Singapore), Per Boysen (Sweden), Krispen Hartung (USA), Chinapainting (Daryl Shawn-Mexico/USA and Jim Goodin-USA) and Michael Klobuchar the strongest lineup of headliners, featured performers and special guests that we've ever had. To Matthias Grob (Brazil/Switzerland), the inventor of the Echoplex for his constant positive and creative energy..............for helping to birth this scene; for being a great and deep friend and a constant source of inspiration to both me and the whole International Live Looping Scene. What a blessing to have you come at the last minute. The whole vibe of the festival lifted because you came, Matthi! Lastly to all of our financial sponsors: Nabil Gachem and the Cultural Council of Santa Cruz County for underwriting a portion of the festival with your generous grant. Bob Amstadt, inventor of the Looperlative for his generous underwriting of Erdem Helvacioglu's visit Bill Putnam, president of Universal Audio for his generous underwriting of Fabio Anile's visit A generous annonymous donor for helping out the entire festival and underwriting Arild Andersen and Leander Reininghaus' visits Klo-boy for his generous underwriting of Per Boysen's visit. Arts Council of Singapore for their generous underwriting of Randolf Arriola's visit And to everyone who so generously and graciously added to the energy of this wonderful festival. THANK YOU EVERYONE from the bottom of my heart!!!!!!!!! I deeply love the international live looping community and feel so thankful that everyone tithed so much of their time, money and energy to make this wonderful festival a reality!!!!! It's a tremendous amount of energy and time to organize this festival. Every year I tell my wife that this is the last year; that I can't take the stress...............but at the end of it, I feel so greatful to have been allowed to do it and feel such an uplift, creatively as an artist.....................and to feel such an uplift by the true outpouring of love and support I experience from everyone. We are all blessed to know each other. love, Rick Walker ps I always have a fair amount of anxiety about forgetting someone's contribution in the haze of exhaustion that always descends when the festival is over each year. If anyone thinks that I missed ackowledging somebody, please let me know off list and I'll correct that oversight immediately with deep apologies. I assure you that if I missed anyone it is due only to sheer exhaustion and not to feeling ungrateful for someone's contribution. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 14:10:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D6FC3BEB3; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:10:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <471F5249.9020604@hevanet.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 07:10:17 -0700 From: David Auker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: y2k7 festival thanks References: <017101c8160e$77dd3c80$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> In-Reply-To: <017101c8160e$77dd3c80$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:10:17 +0000 (UTC) Rick Walker wrote: > Hi everyone, > >> From the bottom of my heart I want to thank everyone for making > the Y2K7 Loopfest the best festival I've ever experienced. 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References: <002601c8152b$cc94f3f0$eb9c0718@gwdesk> <9e0440a60710231509v2629f446m89c254afaeb6df6f@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60710231509v2629f446m89c254afaeb6df6f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box76.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kevinkissinger.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:23:40 +0000 (UTC) Hello to all... Just want to add my thanks to Rick and everyone for organizing the =20 Y2K7 Live Looping festival. This being my first looping festival, I was curious about two solid =20 days of looped music -- would it become tiring -- would everything =20 start to sound the same, etc etc. And after nearly 2 1/2 days of =20 looping, I didn't want it to end! Though we were all looping, every set was unique. The looping medium =20 is not limited to a narrow genre and the offerings ranged from =20 rhythmic to arhythmic, tonal to atonal, pop, jazz, rock, neo-classic, =20 ethnic -- electronic and acoustic instruments, instruments that are =20 blown, plucked, struck, bowed, and a couple of theremins that aren't =20 touched at all. The variety of hardware was also in evidence as the =20 artists used laptops, rackmount, and foot-controlled devices to create =20 loops. The sense of community was extraordinary and to express the community =20 aspect in writing is hard to do. Much of the credit for this goes to =20 Rick and the festival organizers who went out of their way to make =20 EVERYONE feel welcome and valued. I am still on a real "high" from =20 the experience. I left the festival with many new friends, new knowledge, inspiration, =20 and gratitude. Can't wait for next year's festival! Sincerely, Kevin Kissinger http://kevinkissinger.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 16:23:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C2DC73BF7D; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:23:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <471F7187.9040702@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 09:23:35 -0700 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Yet more thanks References: <017101c8160e$77dd3c80$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> In-Reply-To: <017101c8160e$77dd3c80$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:23:46 +0000 (UTC) At the risk of making the chorus of gratitude a mob, I just wanted to add my appreciation to the organizers, staff, performers, and audience of the Loopfest. I was incredibly flattered to be performing alongside such talent, and amazed at the selflessness of everyone involved with making it happen. The product was a nonstop blowout of friggin' incredible music, performed by such intelligent, interesting people. thank you everyone, especially RICK!!! Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 17:11:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 255353BF7D; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:11:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=JIaOQKemE8HL1PBzmqVa/MePE4g+tFjVlcNt4lGua1s=; b=siubi6N4CuwFmwse3s5PB1oVpqGSM2Vy78uhQgaU9uUxXCUseYg9emxtA9Qw+AJIblxYCqj+d56fnqwLQG+MJQybDTfnoy8i3XX2IDMcXD7qFEP3Fmq0PSr4b+inYenXFH/iBP9tcKS9x9YkvwkTMTVt+TbPlS4dmZoesgHg/KA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ktUiBTqfTjvD4e8NVVgBkRFCqDqM3Y7FayJuTsTSL0Sil0+AeNJn2Q1XbnOMJnR2wm5T1NCNx9DkcIp6NPJCZM+A0rc/f3IVuKMUc6xngVpEmae13uk+Fv57hhchMiWwgDQBQui188etWihqPC0GoMiopIfdgnEmgdXOsVGu9r0= Message-ID: <9e0440a60710241011r6a15c3b2o82d9980838f08047@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:11:08 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K7 - thanks to Rick and the performers! In-Reply-To: <20071024102337.la060ehtkw0kwogo@69.89.21.76> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8115_26331203.1193245868556" References: <002601c8152b$cc94f3f0$eb9c0718@gwdesk> <9e0440a60710231509v2629f446m89c254afaeb6df6f@mail.gmail.com> <20071024102337.la060ehtkw0kwogo@69.89.21.76> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:11:10 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_8115_26331203.1193245868556 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Kevin your stuff was amazing, like a lion tamer pulling the tones from the lion on the pedestal, it was very cool... I echo your words as I did earlier. Say hey to the mid-west, I am from your neighbor state Arkansas... best Jim Goodin www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.jimgoodinmusic.com On 10/24/07, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > > Hello to all... ------=_Part_8115_26331203.1193245868556 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Kevin your stuff was amazing, like a lion tamer pulling the tones from the lion on the pedestal, it was very cool...  I echo your words as I did earlier.  Say hey to the mid-west, I am from your neighbor state Arkansas...
     
    best
     
    Jim Goodin
     
    ------=_Part_8115_26331203.1193245868556-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 17:59:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2C593BF7D; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: <002601c8152b$cc94f3f0$eb9c0718@gwdesk> <9e0440a60710231509v2629f446m89c254afaeb6df6f@mail.gmail.com> <20071024102337.la060ehtkw0kwogo@69.89.21.76> In-Reply-To: <20071024102337.la060ehtkw0kwogo@69.89.21.76> Subject: Kevin's theramin performance - amazing Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:59:26 -0700 Message-ID: <005201c81667$9dfd39c0$d9f7ad40$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgWU1aJLyS3OIDKSCG0awbw67K00wAE/nEg Content-Language: en-us X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: D8a360274000091f8.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Hi Kevin, Your theramin performance was amazing. Thick rich tones, and beautiful compositions! A real highlight for me at y2k7 -Qua -----Original Message----- From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com [mailto:kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:24 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K7 - thanks to Rick and the performers! Hello to all... Just want to add my thanks to Rick and everyone for organizing the Y2K7 Live Looping festival. This being my first looping festival, I was curious about two solid days of looped music -- would it become tiring -- would everything start to sound the same, etc etc. And after nearly 2 1/2 days of looping, I didn't want it to end! Though we were all looping, every set was unique. The looping medium is not limited to a narrow genre and the offerings ranged from rhythmic to arhythmic, tonal to atonal, pop, jazz, rock, neo-classic, ethnic -- electronic and acoustic instruments, instruments that are blown, plucked, struck, bowed, and a couple of theremins that aren't touched at all. The variety of hardware was also in evidence as the artists used laptops, rackmount, and foot-controlled devices to create loops. The sense of community was extraordinary and to express the community aspect in writing is hard to do. Much of the credit for this goes to Rick and the festival organizers who went out of their way to make EVERYONE feel welcome and valued. I am still on a real "high" from the experience. I left the festival with many new friends, new knowledge, inspiration, and gratitude. Can't wait for next year's festival! Sincerely, Kevin Kissinger http://kevinkissinger.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 18:32:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B850C3BF23; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=h6hbkQ9p/J4MFJOLQ8zqwGzbanvCyAxlIigmI43O5uE=; b=Q+jonE1ORs2uHDxdMk9NjZAmU70oaXqzlShLHWhfKbHd+D94xpWAIVu+WeE0IboVjIzNdY1DyR+Q1kpKymnhEK+CVHMutNH6mijByTYvUZCVovtJxSBVud3xctWdYKHy/DW1edEKhVpgdXgPwbV01JHW14UZAHz5OUCrHSVuXnU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=JIqrED3miN1zmTTnw8/ScvdrtMeaOEXYZDAqfdPoXCjjYoURcIuoL24TdazuS7aAJ4ki52CxnNcAc+QgqIpx8LKEPEVzYD1V5zRJafR9Fg0toifUwSOB4DWy6rRpPK3OPHtqc/eZyvKh/RaN8Wp4KMi45zESiCsQEuoFi6taa40= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0710241132g56f46498v6110c82f7e16a55a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:32:33 -0700 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: y2k7 festival thanks In-Reply-To: <471F5249.9020604@hevanet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4146_11200159.1193250753055" References: <017101c8160e$77dd3c80$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <471F5249.9020604@hevanet.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:32:34 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4146_11200159.1193250753055 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline >> From the bottom of my heart I want to thank everyone for making > > the Y2K7 Loopfest the best festival I've ever experienced. Chiming in here... thank you everyone! It was great to see you all IRL and also great to meet so many likeminded people that are not on this list. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) ------=_Part_4146_11200159.1193250753055 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline >> From the bottom of my heart I want to thank everyone for making
    > the Y2K7 Loopfest the best festival I've ever experienced.


    Chiming in here... thank you everyone! It was great to see you all IRL and also great to meet so many likeminded people that are not on this list.

    --
    Greetings from Sweden

    Per Boysen
    www.boysen.se (Swedish)
    www.looproom.com (international)

    ------=_Part_4146_11200159.1193250753055-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 18:48:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 138C03BF00; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:48:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=YsUtEZst1DeRBOAQOIDYn5yKjHyfCRxYXTqjrNYPeV4=; b=cdXdh1FKIU2+TNT8p7KzfCeLro9rk1eka55swqWCV+nKW4ycT2/CL5T6modn1vErzWF/MqNc3BHUhcDMQERKg6wP/y1ODhpxgwrc9py69hBK1xL/CL1ebj6OLLmb8PTDh9RKx0ZcvhBRRtBdoJH4IgIetUIw7I5827PQqHXjp7A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=tF3hDgN/FhJst2IWavDFxS/0HLRY2+nU7XkZuB8Nnetyf6uCCxeNCqVNAwNjhZocHIHxU4TG2d4lZA0FyRRaXsT8NL40bMLjD2iFYS/4zP6t7ZP+FmYbVnHlPev3tyteOAcAxrF37ShLVEsQ0UVghGwJO621191fPHvQyxFReEE= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0710241148m6d47d0bq62854483bf1de818@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:48:06 -0700 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Help: New to software looping In-Reply-To: <9C151BE24B28B54D870B5F89BD87EBCE9BDFFC@aaunsw745.au.cbainet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4214_11427619.1193251691969" References: <9C151BE24B28B54D870B5F89BD87EBCE9BDFFC@aaunsw745.au.cbainet.com> Resent-Message-ID: <5hHXxB.A.K0H.tN5HHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:48:13 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4214_11427619.1193251691969 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 10/23/07, Sowonja, Tomson wrote: > > > I have ordered from eBay a MIDI Foot controller (the FCB 1010 - which > seems to be the most common in use as well as affordable) - however I've > never programmed MIDI before being a bit of a luddite - I'm definitely a > stomp box kinda guitar player. > > Is anyone able to help me with my first forays into MIDI programming by > either offering tips/hints or pointing me to a good reference source on the > web? > > How do people who use Mobius with the FCB 1010 usually set up their banks > and commands on the foot controller? > Hi Tom, Start out with reprogramming the FCB1010 pedal to send out only one MIDI event (preferably a MIDI Note) on each pedal press. A good rule is to start with bank 0 and use the MIDI Note numbers 1 - 10, then for bank 2 you you go MIDI Note numbers 11 - 20 etc etc. For the looper, whatever looper device/application you go with, do not start in the technical end! It's a lot easier to start with the musical context. Simply make a list of a few looping actions you want to work with for starters. My suggestion is to use Record, Overdub, Undo, Multiply, Next Loop and Previous Loop. When you get the music flowing with these tools you can expand the palette with stuff like Reverse, Speed, HalfSpeed, Rate Shift (talking Mobius here), Mute, Mute All Tracks etc etc. Most software applications (and Looperlative) has a quick "MIDI Learn" function that helps you to map the MIDI Events sent out by the pedal to the appropriate looper actions. Chose a function, activate MIDI Learning and press the pedal. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) ------=_Part_4214_11427619.1193251691969 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 10/23/07, Sowonja, Tomson <tomson.sowonja@cba.com.au> wrote:

    I have ordered from eBay a MIDI Foot controller (the FCB 1010 - which seems to be the most common in use as well as affordable) - however I've never programmed MIDI before being a bit of a luddite - I'm definitely a stomp box kinda guitar player.

    Is anyone able to help me with my first forays into MIDI programming by either offering tips/hints or pointing me to a good reference source on the web?

    How do people who use Mobius with the FCB 1010 usually set up their banks and commands on the foot controller?


    Hi Tom,

    Start out with reprogramming the FCB1010 pedal to send out only one MIDI event (preferably a MIDI Note) on each pedal press. A good rule is to start with bank 0 and use the MIDI Note numbers 1 - 10, then for bank 2 you you go MIDI Note numbers 11 - 20 etc etc.

    For the looper, whatever looper device/application you go with, do not start in the technical end! It's a lot easier to start with the musical context. Simply make a list of a few looping actions you want to work with for starters. My suggestion is to use Record, Overdub, Undo, Multiply, Next Loop and Previous Loop. When you get the music flowing with these tools you can expand the palette with stuff like Reverse, Speed, HalfSpeed, Rate Shift (talking Mobius here), Mute, Mute All Tracks etc etc.

    Most software applications (and Looperlative) has a quick "MIDI Learn" function that helps you to map the MIDI Events sent out by the pedal to the appropriate looper actions. Chose a function, activate MIDI Learning and press the pedal.

    --
    Greetings from Sweden

    Per Boysen
    www.boysen.se (Swedish)
    www.looproom.com (international)

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Get 'em! = --_0404333e-b607-4da6-83bc-34a4204a9759_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 20:28:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AC4A3BF65; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:28:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20071024152806.zp79r47e04o8w4k0@69.89.21.76> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:28:06 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Kevin's theramin performance - amazing References: <002601c8152b$cc94f3f0$eb9c0718@gwdesk> <9e0440a60710231509v2629f446m89c254afaeb6df6f@mail.gmail.com> <20071024102337.la060ehtkw0kwogo@69.89.21.76> <005201c81667$9dfd39c0$d9f7ad40$@com> In-Reply-To: <005201c81667$9dfd39c0$d9f7ad40$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box76.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kevinkissinger.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:28:08 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Qua Veda : > Hi Kevin, > Your theramin performance was amazing. Thick rich tones, and beautiful > compositions! > A real highlight for me at y2k7 > > -Qua > Qua, Jim, and to all, Thank you very much for your kind comments about my looped theremin set. The outpouring of support is much-appreciated and I feel motivated to create more looped music. I learned much from watching and listening to everyone (I heard nearly all of the sets). Your music, conversation, and encouragement means a lot to me. I am sure that everyone at the festival left with ideas, energy, and motivation to create more amazing music! I'm pleased to be a part of the looping community. Sincerely, Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 22:46:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE4153BF6C; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:46:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c5acb84f-00b8-4dcc-ab47-fafea749c396_" X-Originating-IP: [151.41.185.30] From: Lorenzo Orlandini To: Subject: RE: Kevin's theramin performance - amazing Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:46:49 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20071024152806.zp79r47e04o8w4k0@69.89.21.76> References: <002601c8152b$cc94f3f0$eb9c0718@gwdesk> <9e0440a60710231509v2629f446m89c254afaeb6df6f@mail.gmail.com> <20071024102337.la060ehtkw0kwogo@69.89.21.76> <005201c81667$9dfd39c0$d9f7ad40$@com> <20071024152806.zp79r47e04o8w4k0@69.89.21.76> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Oct 2007 22:46:49.0934 (UTC) FILETIME=[C3B0D6E0:01C8168F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:46:51 +0000 (UTC) --_c5acb84f-00b8-4dcc-ab47-fafea749c396_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am buying a theremin as soon as I find a decent, reasonably priced one. I= s there anywhere I can find Kevin's work online? I am interested! thanks,=20 Lorenzo > Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:28:06 -0500 > From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Kevin's theramin performance - amazing >=20 > Quoting Qua Veda : >=20 > > Hi Kevin, > > Your theramin performance was amazing. Thick rich tones, and beautiful > > compositions! > > A real highlight for me at y2k7 > > > > -Qua > > > Qua, Jim, and to all, >=20 > Thank you very much for your kind comments about my looped theremin =20 > set. The outpouring of support is much-appreciated and I feel =20 > motivated to create more looped music. >=20 > I learned much from watching and listening to everyone (I heard nearly =20 > all of the sets). Your music, conversation, and encouragement means a =20 > lot to me. I am sure that everyone at the festival left with ideas, =20 > energy, and motivation to create more amazing music! I'm pleased to =20 > be a part of the looping community. >=20 > Sincerely, >=20 > Kevin >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Conosci Doretta? Contattala, =E8 ora su Messenger! http://www.doretta82.it/banner/index.html= --_c5acb84f-00b8-4dcc-ab47-fafea749c396_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    I am buying a th= eremin as soon as I find a decent, reasonably priced one. Is there anywhere= I can find Kevin's work online? I am interested!

    thanks,

    Lo= renzo



    > Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2= 007 15:28:06 -0500
    > From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com
    > To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    > Subject: Re: Kevin's theramin p= erformance - amazing
    >
    > Quoting Qua Veda <qua@oregon.com&g= t;:
    >
    > > Hi Kevin,
    > > Your theramin performance = was amazing. Thick rich tones, and beautiful
    > > compositions!> > A real highlight for me at y2k7
    > >
    > > -Qua> >
    > Qua, Jim, and to all,
    >
    > Thank you very m= uch for your kind comments about my looped theremin
    > set. The out= pouring of support is much-appreciated and I feel
    > motivated to cr= eate more looped music.
    >
    > I learned much from watching and l= istening to everyone (I heard nearly
    > all of the sets). Your musi= c, conversation, and encouragement means a
    > lot to me. I am sure = that everyone at the festival left with ideas,
    > energy, and motiva= tion to create more amazing music! I'm pleased to
    > be a part of t= he looping community.
    >
    > Sincerely,
    >
    > Kevin>

    Crea il tuo Spaces: fai il tuo blog e carica fino a 5= 00 foto al mese! Window= s Live Spaces = --_c5acb84f-00b8-4dcc-ab47-fafea749c396_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 24 23:17:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E3943BF63; Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:17:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20071024181719.qspd9yp3k0wckoow@69.89.21.76> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:17:19 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Kevin's theramin performance - amazing References: <002601c8152b$cc94f3f0$eb9c0718@gwdesk> <9e0440a60710231509v2629f446m89c254afaeb6df6f@mail.gmail.com> <20071024102337.la060ehtkw0kwogo@69.89.21.76> <005201c81667$9dfd39c0$d9f7ad40$@com> <20071024152806.zp79r47e04o8w4k0@69.89.21.76> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box76.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kevinkissinger.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:17:22 +0000 (UTC) Lorenzo, You can find works at http://kevinkissinger.com . The video, =20 theremin, and Aries Synthesizer links all contain music. The looped =20 work, "Three-Legged Race" is one of the works I played in Santa Cruz. -- Kevin Quoting Lorenzo Orlandini : > I am buying a theremin as soon as I find a decent, reasonably priced =20 > one. Is there anywhere I can find Kevin's work online? I am =20 > interested! > > thanks, > > Lorenzo > > > >> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:28:06 -0500 >> From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Subject: Re: Kevin's theramin performance - amazing >> >> Quoting Qua Veda : >> >> > Hi Kevin, >> > Your theramin performance was amazing. Thick rich tones, and beautiful >> > compositions! >> > A real highlight for me at y2k7 >> > >> > -Qua >> > >> Qua, Jim, and to all, >> >> Thank you very much for your kind comments about my looped theremin >> set. The outpouring of support is much-appreciated and I feel >> motivated to create more looped music. >> >> I learned much from watching and listening to everyone (I heard nearly >> all of the sets). Your music, conversation, and encouragement means a >> lot to me. I am sure that everyone at the festival left with ideas, >> energy, and motivation to create more amazing music! I'm pleased to >> be a part of the looping community. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Kevin >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Conosci Doretta? Contattala, =E8 ora su Messenger! > http://www.doretta82.it/banner/index.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 00:44:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E8633BF5E; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:44:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9cf9a488-c537-49f5-8e17-d6bbc072489e_" X-Originating-IP: [151.41.185.30] From: Lorenzo Orlandini To: Subject: RE: Kevin's theramin performance - amazing Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:44:06 +0200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20071024181719.qspd9yp3k0wckoow@69.89.21.76> References: <002601c8152b$cc94f3f0$eb9c0718@gwdesk> <9e0440a60710231509v2629f446m89c254afaeb6df6f@mail.gmail.com> <20071024102337.la060ehtkw0kwogo@69.89.21.76> <005201c81667$9dfd39c0$d9f7ad40$@com> <20071024152806.zp79r47e04o8w4k0@69.89.21.76> <20071024181719.qspd9yp3k0wckoow@69.89.21.76> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2007 00:44:06.0726 (UTC) FILETIME=[25F21660:01C816A0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:44:09 +0000 (UTC) --_9cf9a488-c537-49f5-8e17-d6bbc072489e_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi Kevin,=20 thanks for the link. All the music I found there is great, and Three Legged= Race is in fact just awesome! I love it.=20 Great skills on the theremin, I hear is a tough instrument to master.=20 best,=20 Lorenzo > Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:17:19 -0500 > From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: Kevin's theramin performance - amazing >=20 > Lorenzo, >=20 > You can find works at http://kevinkissinger.com . The video, =20 > theremin, and Aries Synthesizer links all contain music. The looped =20 > work, "Three-Legged Race" is one of the works I played in Santa Cruz. >=20 > -- Kevin >=20 > Quoting Lorenzo Orlandini : >=20 > > I am buying a theremin as soon as I find a decent, reasonably priced =20 > > one. Is there anywhere I can find Kevin's work online? I am =20 > > interested! > > > > thanks, > > > > Lorenzo > > > > > > > >> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:28:06 -0500 > >> From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> Subject: Re: Kevin's theramin performance - amazing > >> > >> Quoting Qua Veda : > >> > >> > Hi Kevin, > >> > Your theramin performance was amazing. Thick rich tones, and beauti= ful > >> > compositions! > >> > A real highlight for me at y2k7 > >> > > >> > -Qua > >> > > >> Qua, Jim, and to all, > >> > >> Thank you very much for your kind comments about my looped theremin > >> set. The outpouring of support is much-appreciated and I feel > >> motivated to create more looped music. > >> > >> I learned much from watching and listening to everyone (I heard nearly > >> all of the sets). Your music, conversation, and encouragement means a > >> lot to me. I am sure that everyone at the festival left with ideas, > >> energy, and motivation to create more amazing music! I'm pleased to > >> be a part of the looping community. > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> > >> Kevin > >> > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Conosci Doretta? Contattala, =E8 ora su Messenger! > > http://www.doretta82.it/banner/index.html >=20 >=20 >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Conosci Doretta? Contattala, =E8 ora su Messenger! http://www.doretta82.it/banner/index.html= --_9cf9a488-c537-49f5-8e17-d6bbc072489e_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    hi Kevin,
    th= anks for the link. All the music I found there is great, and Three Legged R= ace is in fact just awesome! I love it.
    Great skills on the theremin, I= hear is a tough instrument to master.

    best,

    Lorenzo



    > Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:17:19= -0500
    > From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com
    > To: Loopers-Deli= ght@loopers-delight.com
    > Subject: RE: Kevin's theramin performance -= amazing
    >
    > Lorenzo,
    >
    > You can find works at h= ttp://kevinkissinger.com . The video,
    > theremin, and Aries Synthe= sizer links all contain music. The looped
    > work, "Three-Legged Ra= ce" is one of the works I played in Santa Cruz.
    >
    > -- Kevin>
    > Quoting Lorenzo Orlandini <weaviestonder@hotmail.it>:=
    >
    > > I am buying a theremin as soon as I find a decent, r= easonably priced
    > > one. Is there anywhere I can find Kevin's = work online? I am
    > > interested!
    > >
    > > tha= nks,
    > >
    > > Lorenzo
    > >
    > >
    > &g= t;
    > >> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:28:06 -0500
    > >> = From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com
    > >> To: Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com
    > >> Subject: Re: Kevin's theramin performanc= e - amazing
    > >>
    > >> Quoting Qua Veda <qua@oreg= on.com>:
    > >>
    > >> > Hi Kevin,
    > >&g= t; > Your theramin performance was amazing. Thick rich tones, and beaut= iful
    > >> > compositions!
    > >> > A real highl= ight for me at y2k7
    > >> >
    > >> > -Qua
    >= ; >> >
    > >> Qua, Jim, and to all,
    > >>
    = > >> Thank you very much for your kind comments about my looped th= eremin
    > >> set. The outpouring of support is much-appreciated= and I feel
    > >> motivated to create more looped music.
    >= >>
    > >> I learned much from watching and listening to ev= eryone (I heard nearly
    > >> all of the sets). Your music, conv= ersation, and encouragement means a
    > >> lot to me. I am sure = that everyone at the festival left with ideas,
    > >> energy, and= motivation to create more amazing music! I'm pleased to
    > >> = be a part of the looping community.
    > >>
    > >> Since= rely,
    > >>
    > >> Kevin
    > >>
    > >=
    > > _____________________________________________________________= ____
    > > Conosci Doretta? Contattala, =E8 ora su Messenger!
    >= ; > http://www.doretta82.it/banner/index.html
    >
    >
    > =

    Crea il tuo Spaces: fai il tuo blog e carica fino a 500 fot= o al mese! Windows Live= Spaces = --_9cf9a488-c537-49f5-8e17-d6bbc072489e_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 02:42:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 052A23BF59; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:42:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <742cd47e6e1d382cd9b3b290795f1ce1@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: OT: FOUND, ORIGINAL '80s SUSTAINIAC ON EBAY UK Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:42:21 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: <-agWsD.A.J6F.OKAIHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 02:42:22 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, For the number of those who ask me from time to time: "How do you do that crazy sustain thing on yer CD?" And, especially for those of you who are in Europe . . . Check this out: http://cgi.ebay.com/Sustainiac-unit-for-guitar-Original-1980s-model-=20 New_W0QQitemZ260173642663QQihZ016QQcategoryZ22669QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2V=20= QQcmdZViewItem And they claim it's a new unit . . . go figure. I have both old and new model ones but this one is the bee's knees =20 (IMOHO). Per, you were interested in these before . . . and Fabio, you just =20 asked me at Y2K7 (and we got interupted before I could answer you). The price seems most reasonable (so far). Cheers, tEd =AE KiLLiAn www.tedkillian.com Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?=20 playListId=3D6378076 Also check out the 1st set of BEMF (Boise Experimental Music Festival) =20= CDs at: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/cd.htm http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?=20 step=3Dview_profile&id=3D1211970 00042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So???=20= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 06:55:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 455353BF68; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:55:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,328,1188741600"; d="scan'208,217";a="47424403" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C816D3.F36584AD" Subject: RE: Help: New to software looping Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:54:55 +1000 Message-ID: <9C151BE24B28B54D870B5F89BD87EBCE9BE051@aaunsw745.au.cbainet.com> In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0710241148m6d47d0bq62854483bf1de818@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Help: New to software looping Thread-Index: AcgWbnEq0zfbP9oLStel/ZRXuxfJWwAZVHgQ From: "Sowonja, Tomson" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2007 06:54:39.0952 (UTC) FILETIME=[E9FB2500:01C816D3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:55:14 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C816D3.F36584AD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Per,=20 Thanks for that - the MIDI controller has arrived and i think my home internet connection has finally been relocated to my new home so I should be able to start looking at this early next week.=20 =20 I will let you all know how I go (and post something on the net when I've recorded some results). =20 Though I'll still welcome any other tips anyone may have! =20 Cheers Tom =20 =20 ________________________________ From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2007 4:48 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Help: New to software looping On 10/23/07, Sowonja, Tomson wrote:=20 I have ordered from eBay a MIDI Foot controller (the FCB 1010 - which seems to be the most common in use as well as affordable) - however I've never programmed MIDI before being a bit of a luddite - I'm definitely a stomp box kinda guitar player.=20 Is anyone able to help me with my first forays into MIDI programming by either offering tips/hints or pointing me to a good reference source on the web?=20 How do people who use Mobius with the FCB 1010 usually set up their banks and commands on the foot controller? Hi Tom, Start out with reprogramming the FCB1010 pedal to send out only one MIDI event (preferably a MIDI Note) on each pedal press. A good rule is to start with bank 0 and use the MIDI Note numbers 1 - 10, then for bank 2 you you go MIDI Note numbers 11 - 20 etc etc.=20 For the looper, whatever looper device/application you go with, do not start in the technical end! It's a lot easier to start with the musical context. Simply make a list of a few looping actions you want to work with for starters. My suggestion is to use Record, Overdub, Undo, Multiply, Next Loop and Previous Loop. When you get the music flowing with these tools you can expand the palette with stuff like Reverse, Speed, HalfSpeed, Rate Shift (talking Mobius here), Mute, Mute All Tracks etc etc.=20 Most software applications (and Looperlative) has a quick "MIDI Learn" function that helps you to map the MIDI Events sent out by the pedal to the appropriate looper actions. Chose a function, activate MIDI Learning and press the pedal.=20 --=20 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE ***************************** =20 This e-mail message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains info= rmation which may be confidential.=20 If you are not the intended recipient please advise the sender by return em= ail, do not use or disclose the contents, and delete the message and any attachments from your= system. Unless specifically indicated, this email does not constitute formal advice or com= mitment by the sender or the Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) or its subsidiar= ies.=20 We can be contacted through our web site: commbank.com.au.=20 If you no longer wish to receive commercial electronic messages from us, pl= ease reply to this e-mail by typing Unsubscribe in the subject line.=20 ************************************************************** ------_=_NextPart_001_01C816D3.F36584AD Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Hey Per,
    Thanks for that - the MIDI controller has arrived = and i=20 think my home internet connection has finally been relocated to my new home= so I=20 should be able to start looking at this early next week.
     
    I will let you all know how I go (and post so= mething=20 on the net when I've recorded some results).
     
    Though I'll still welcome any other tips anyone ma= y=20 have!
     
    Cheers
    Tom
     
     

    From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmai= l=2Ecom]=20
    Sent: Thursday, 25 October 2007 4:48 AM
    To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject: Re: Help: New to sof= tware=20 looping

    On 10/23/07, Sowonja, Tomson <= ;tomson.sowonja@cba.com.au>= wrote:

    I have ordered from eBay a MIDI Foot contr= oller=20 (the FCB 1010 - which seems to be the most common in use as well as=20 affordable) - however I've never programmed MIDI before being a bit of a=20 luddite - I'm definitely a stomp box kinda guitar player.

    Is anyone able to help me with my first fo= rays into=20 MIDI programming by either offering tips/hints or pointing me to a good=20 reference source on the web?

    How do people who use Mobius with the FCB = 1010=20 usually set up their banks and commands on the foot=20 controller?


    Hi Tom,

    Start o= ut with=20 reprogramming the FCB1010 pedal to send out only one MIDI event (preferably= a=20 MIDI Note) on each pedal press. A good rule is to start with bank 0 and use= the=20 MIDI Note numbers 1 - 10, then for bank 2 you you go MIDI Note numbers 11 -= 20=20 etc etc.

    For the looper, whatever looper device/application you go = with,=20 do not start in the technical end! It's a lot easier to start with the musi= cal=20 context. Simply make a list of a few looping actions you want to work with = for=20 starters. My suggestion is to use Record, Overdub, Undo, Multiply, Next Loo= p and=20 Previous Loop. When you get the music flowing with these tools you can expa= nd=20 the palette with stuff like Reverse, Speed, HalfSpeed, Rate Shift (talking=20 Mobius here), Mute, Mute All Tracks etc etc.

    Most software applicat= ions=20 (and Looperlative) has a quick "MIDI Learn" function that helps you to map = the=20 MIDI Events sent out by the pedal to the appropriate looper actions. Chose = a=20 function, activate MIDI Learning and press the pedal.

    --
    Greeti= ngs=20 from Sweden

    Per Boysen
    www.boysen.se (Swedish)
    www.looproom.com=20 (international)

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    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C816D3.F36584AD-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 09:29:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D1623BF6D; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:29:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=6D-Hy7tQAAAA:8 a=hLVndRFCAAAA:8 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=J6XXUAuRAAAA:8 a=t-IPkPogAAAA:8 a=x7NfWsqxAAAA:8 a=2nhGjAOeAAAA:8 a=HSWCTTXAAAAA:8 a=npx5NHmsAAAA:8 a=Yoa2k7fRAAAA:8 a=ioVrmdEmAAAA:8 a=vWk3uKrPAAAA:8 a=-KG3j4xFAAAA:8 a=4UP6TeVJAAAA:8 a=VPqSoXhqXa8ACDZ5w7EA:9 a=IRRKE0NWE1YIwLzPkvsA:7 a=c0EzlTm1ta1LtgHcYxBiKtlCgyMA:4 a=qRAw5e_UBegA:10 a=EwNHt1ZgC8EA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=OUKbW-zgSzYA:10 a=h8KCDV1alhUA:10 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.mail=echohead@embarqmail.com; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=echohead@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp07.embarq.synacor.com: 71.48.241.17 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of embarqmail.com) Message-ID: <000901c816e9$85b87af0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <742cd47e6e1d382cd9b3b290795f1ce1@charter.net> Subject: Re: FOUND, ORIGINAL '80s SUSTAINIAC ON EBAY UK Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 05:29:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: <_UaQCD.A.keG.wHGIHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:29:21 +0000 (UTC) Thats cool, they have a very different sound than my Fernandes sustainor system. Here is a easier url http://tinyurl.com/2bbt5f Jeff http://thisphase.org/lips.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "tEd ® KiLLiAn" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:42 PM Subject: OT: FOUND, ORIGINAL '80s SUSTAINIAC ON EBAY UK Hi all, For the number of those who ask me from time to time: "How do you do that crazy sustain thing on yer CD?" And, especially for those of you who are in Europe . . . Check this out: http://cgi.ebay.com/Sustainiac-unit-for-guitar-Original-1980s-model- New_W0QQitemZ260173642663QQihZ016QQcategoryZ22669QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2V QQcmdZViewItem And they claim it's a new unit . . . go figure. I have both old and new model ones but this one is the bee's knees (IMOHO). Per, you were interested in these before . . . and Fabio, you just asked me at Y2K7 (and we got interupted before I could answer you). The price seems most reasonable (so far). Cheers, tEd ® KiLLiAn www.tedkillian.com Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum? playListId=6378076 Also check out the 1st set of BEMF (Boise Experimental Music Festival) CDs at: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/cd.htm http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=CBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi? step=view_profile&id=1211970 00042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.10/1091 - Release Date: 10/24/2007 2:31 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 09:47:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 692F73BF59; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:47:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 11:47:18 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: How to simulate a piano sustain pedal with a midi controller like FCB1010 or FC-300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_=__=_XaM3_.1193305638.2A.779717.42.2747.52.42.007.1018694525" From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.7.91.126 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:47:21 +0000 (UTC) --_=__=_XaM3_.1193305638.2A.779717.42.2747.52.42.007.1018694525 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I'm thinking of buying a midi foot controller. Does anyone if it's possib= le to simulate a piano sustain pedal to control synths? Searching the net= resulted in information that it was only possible to program 2 pedals in= stead of 1 on for example the FCB1010....... Pedal 1 =3D> midi controle message 64 with value between 64-127 =3D> ON Pedal 2 =3D> midi controle message 64 with value between 0-63 =3D> OFF What I would like to have is 1 pedal: * pressing it =3D> sustain ON * releasing it =3D> OFF I also found some info on customized EPROM's for the FCB1010 from Belgium= expanding the feature set of the FCB1010. Does anyone know if it's worth= buying it? Does anyone know the main differences or plus/minus between the FCB1010 = and the Roland FC-300. Btw: price is less important, I'm looking for a go= od and well working midi controller. So other suggestions are welcome :) Sjaak=0A---=0AScarlet One, ADSL 6 Mbps + Telefonie, vanaf EUR 29,95...=0A= http://www.scarlet.be/ --_=__=_XaM3_.1193305638.2A.779717.42.2747.52.42.007.1018694525 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Hi, 
    I'm thinking of buying a midi foot controller. Does anyone if it's p= ossible to simulate a piano sustain pedal to control synths? Searchi= ng the net resulted in information that it was only possible to= program 2 pedals instead of 1 on for example the FCB1010.......
     
    Pedal 1 =3D> midi controle message 64 with value between 64-= 127 =3D> ON
    Pedal 2 =3D> midi controle message 64 with value betwee= n 0-63 =3D> OFF
     
    What I would like to have is 1 pedal:
    * pressing it =3D> sustain ON
    * releasing it =3D> OFF
     
    I also found some info on customized EPROM's for the FCB1010 fr= om Belgium expanding the feature set of the FCB1010. Does anyone know if = it's worth buying it?
     
    Does anyone know the main differences  or plus/minus between th= e FCB1010 and the Roland FC-300. Btw: price is less important, I'm lookin= g for a good and well working midi controller. So other suggestions are w= elcome :)
     
    Sjaak
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THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, October 27 at 6:00 am. I will continue the special on E-dition Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. I will continue with issue 15 out of 16 so this special is drawing to a close soon. What's next? ;-) Tune in to WMUH Allentown at 91.7 FM, broadcasting from the campus of Muhlenberg College. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. WMUH's web site is http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh ====================================================================== All times are EDT / GMT-4. Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 14:19:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DFC03BEDE; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:19:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00af01c81711$f3ed7ed0$4001a8c0@pcfabio> Reply-To: "e t e r o g e n e o" From: "e t e r o g e n e o" To: , "MEGABYTE MIKE" , "AARON LEESE" , "ADAM ANTIUM the PLUM" , "ARILD ANDERSEN" , "BARRY CLEVELAND" , "BEAU CASEY (Cypod)" , "BILL WALKER" , "BOB AMSTADT" , "CARL WEINGARTEN" , "CHINA PAINTING (Daryl Shawn)" , "CHINA PAINTING (Jim Goodin)" , "CPR aka Chris Roberts" , "CRAIG GREEN (bemf artist)" , "CRAIG McCOLLOUGH" , "CYOAKHA" , "DANIEL THOMAS 1" , "Daniel Thomas_2" , "Daniel Thomas at APPLE" , "DUKE SEXTON" , "ERDEM HELVACIOGLU (Turkey)" , "GARY REGINA" , "GENIE" , "GLENN SMITH" , "GREG WILLIAMS" , "HARRY WEINBERG" , "HENRY KAISER" , "JD DEVROS" , "JOE RUT - Lumper/Splitter" , "KEVIN KISSINGER" , "KRISPEN HARTUNG" , "LEANDER REININGHAUS" , "MARK HAMBURG" , "MATT DAVIGNON" , "MATTHIAS GROB" , "MICHAEL KLOBUCHAR" , "MOJOW and the VIBRATION ARMY" , "PETER COR" , "RANDOLF ARRIOLA (Singapore looper)" , "Rick Walker/Loop.pooL" , "SCOTT HUCKABAY" References: <017101c8160e$77dd3c80$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Subject: Re: y2k7 festival thanks Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:17:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Rating: smtp5.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:19:00 +0000 (UTC) Hello people, just want to add my thanks to everyone was involved in the Y2K7 Loopfest. Special thanks to Rick and Bill Walker and to their sweetie wiwes Chris and Nancy (for their hospitality and friendship and for the hard work spent to organize that event) to Bill Putnam (president of Universal Audio for underwriting my visit) and to all the musicians that performed at the festival bringing in a lot of good music and expertize. It was an unforgettable week and an amazing experience: getting in touch with a lot of people from this list, listening to different looping approaches, talking about gear and looping techniques, having a lot of fun... For me, it was not just a loopfestival but a real "clinic" about looping, that i strongly raccomend to everyone. And the great thing was also the interaction between people coming from different countries of the world: U.S.A., Norway, Singapore, Sweeden, Brazil, Turkey, Germany. It was the demonstration that music is a "common language". Wow, I can't explain what it was... Rick, thanks again for being such a great organizer of this amazing festival. fabio www.eterogeneo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 15:41:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AEDE3BEB2; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:41:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <012201c8171d$84b935c0$4001a8c0@pcfabio> Reply-To: "e t e r o g e n e o" From: "e t e r o g e n e o" To: References: <742cd47e6e1d382cd9b3b290795f1ce1@charter.net> Subject: Re: FOUND, ORIGINAL '80s SUSTAINIAC ON EBAY UK Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:41:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Rating: smtp4.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:41:37 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the information Ted, i would love to talk a lot more with you, but - as it was self-evident - i'm not so good to talk in english...and there were so nice sets to listen to that time wasn't enough. Sorry if the last night i leaved improvvisely, but i had to help Rick to come back to his house with instruments and all that stuff... Next time, I hope to see you playing ! best fabio www.eterogeneo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "tEd ® KiLLiAn" To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 4:42 AM Subject: OT: FOUND, ORIGINAL '80s SUSTAINIAC ON EBAY UK Hi all, For the number of those who ask me from time to time: "How do you do that crazy sustain thing on yer CD?" And, especially for those of you who are in Europe . . . Check this out: http://cgi.ebay.com/Sustainiac-unit-for-guitar-Original-1980s-model- New_W0QQitemZ260173642663QQihZ016QQcategoryZ22669QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2V QQcmdZViewItem And they claim it's a new unit . . . go figure. I have both old and new model ones but this one is the bee's knees (IMOHO). Per, you were interested in these before . . . and Fabio, you just asked me at Y2K7 (and we got interupted before I could answer you). The price seems most reasonable (so far). Cheers, tEd ® KiLLiAn www.tedkillian.com Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum? playListId=6378076 Also check out the 1st set of BEMF (Boise Experimental Music Festival) CDs at: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/cd.htm http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=CBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi? step=view_profile&id=1211970 00042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.10/1091 - Release Date: 24/10/2007 14.31 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 16:23:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55C5C3BECD; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:23:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: GIGADELAY! Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:23:27 +0200 Message-ID: <200710251623.l9PGNSx7029036@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: GIGADELAY! Thread-Index: AcgXI19od8rpHr2mRlKodOGbks9ndQ== From: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2007 16:23:28.0184 (UTC) FILETIME=[5FFE1380:01C81723] Resent-Message-ID: <_3CRP.A.16.BMMIHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:23:30 +0000 (UTC) JUST GOT MY GIGADELAY! MAN IS THIS THING FRIGGIN AWESOME!!! SO FAR I'VE JUST BEEN PLAYING WITH THE GLITCHES FROM PLUGGING/UNPLUGGING STUFF! I CAN'T WAIT TO GET SERIOUS WITH IT! david moore transient alert 86 mxs/mxmta 480-2061/5378 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 16:46:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0DF53BED6; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:46:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <380-2200710425164641301@M2W028.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: qua@oregon.com X-Originating-IP: 134.134.136.4 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "qua@oregon.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 12:46:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: GIGADELAY! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:46:44 +0000 (UTC) Hi David, the DD-20 (giga delay) has been widely recommended by folks on L-D=2E I'm= curious, being a 'delay' pedal, what advantages it may have over the 'looping' pedals such as RC-20 -qua Original Message: ----------------- From: Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA David=2EMoore@ramstein=2Eaf=2Emil Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:23:27 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight=2Ecom Subject: GIGADELAY! JUST GOT MY GIGADELAY! MAN IS THIS THING FRIGGIN AWESOME!!! SO FAR I'VE JUST BEEN PLAYING WITH THE GLITCHES FROM PLUGGING/UNPLUGGING STUFF! 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Try it! = --_0a642b48-839b-4f1b-accc-a7f77b7d12b9_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 17:34:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 758E93BECA; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: , Subject: AW: dd-20 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:34:57 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <002601c8172d$5caa7020$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: <380-220071042517143572@M2W034.mail2web.com> Thread-Index: AcgXKLoxSu40StzCSWi4XhHnFM2yTgAAOpJg X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OIJeDp5A21A= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:34:34 +0000 (UTC) Hi Qua, (forwarding this to LD as well, because this might be of interest to = others) first of all, I believe that it doesn't matter that much with which = looper you start - you'll rather quickly discover what you like about it and = what you don't like and can then take that into consideration when "venturing into more full featured products". Of course, from a ROI standpoint, it would make sense to get something = which you'll continue to use even when you switch to EDP, Mobius, MAX/MSP, Looperlative, Repeater or whatever. In the realm of the rather cheap yet still powerful loop pedals, I personally do know two devices more deeply, but will also comment a = little on the Boss RC series (but please consider that I haven't ever played = one of those). First, an excursion: There are basically two concepts how to see (and to design) a looper. = One is a delay. The other one is a phrase sampler with overdub capability. The simple loopers are from their implementation and user interface either = one or the other, the more powerful ones, while being either one from their implementation, can be used in either way. Delay-oriented loopers have a variable feedback setting which is used = all the time. There is no real record vs. overdub difference - you set the = delay length, and when you send something into the input, you record into the loop, and when you turn the input off, you don't. The delay time can be = set either by manually selecting it, or by tap tempo (if available). = "Unrounded Multiply" (lengthening the loop by repeating its contents or shortening = it by only keeping a part of it) may be possible. If it's not possible, = chances are that you can varispeed the loop. There are no transport controls like reverse, stutter, halfspeed (safe = for possibly varispeed, see above) or even stop/start. There's sometimes not even a quick way to erase the loop - you have to turn feedback to 0 and = wait for one cycle. Sampler-oriented loopers work like this: You hit a button, start = playing, hit that button again, and the loop plays. You can then hit a button to = go in and out of overdub. When not in overdub, feedback is always 100%, = it's below that during overdub (but not configurable on the simpler loopers). Normally, you can't unrounded multiply or varispeed, but you may be able = to stop/restart, stutter, reverse and halfspeed. As I said before, the more powerful loopers allow you to have all these functions and to work more delay- or sampler-like as you wish. Now my two recommendations: 1. Delay-oriented: Boss DD-20 Gigadelay Here, I don't talk about its Sound-On-Sound mode, because that is = rubbish. This is about the normal delay modes. You get a 23s stereo delay. You can have two delays of up to 23s (in = stereo) sounding at the same time, and you can even do a trick and extend the = loop time to 46s in mono (I think Ted developed that). You can do unrounded multiply, adjusting the delay length of a running = loop causes slight pitching or when doing it more radically weird artifacts. 2. Sampler-oriented: Line6 DL4 You get 14s of loop length (28s in halfspeed) in mono, plus a pre-loop = 800ms delay (with great varispeed effects) plus modulation. Transport controls = are record/overdub, stop/start, stutter and reverse/halfspeed. Feeback = during overdub ist (I think) 90%, no way to control that. Apart from that, the delay modes of the DL4 are also great. So, which one to get? I don't know...both are great tools. A lot of = looping artists have worked deeply with the DL4 (the Walkers are two examples = who did a lot with one or two of them. You might also check out Genie for = some very showoff-effect-ladden material played with just a guitar into the = DL4). On the LD site's "tools of the trade" section, there's also lots of info = on the DD20, and I use one myself in my microrig (Zoom G2.u into DD20), and = the feature to have two independent loops going at the same time sets it = apart from...well almost every other hardware looper (exception being the Looperlative). Both are also tools which you're most probably going to keep when = someday you switch to a more powerful looper. In that realm, the DL4 might be slightly superior because its delay models are (imho) more useable than those of the DD20 for "interesting delay sounds". Perhaps just go to a = music store, try both, try also to connect them in series, and see what you = like better - most probably you'll end up getting both. About the Boss RC series: These seem to me very much oriented at people who want to lay down a = chord progression and then solo over it. Not that much of tricky sound = mangling - just pure phrase sampling with overdub. Rainer > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: qua@oregon.com [mailto:qua@oregon.com]=20 > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Oktober 2007 19:02 > An: rs@moinlabs.de > Betreff: dd-20 >=20 > Hi, > a few folks have recommended the dd-20 for me as a good one=20 > to start with to get the 'feel' of looping and experimenting,=20 > and having creative fun ... before venturing into more full=20 > featured products like Mobius (s/w) or > EDP (h/w) that also have bigger learning curves =20 >=20 > would you agree? =20 > -Qua >=20 > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill rs@moinlabs.de > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:52:33 +0200 > To: qua@oregon.com > Subject: AW: GIGADELAY! >=20 >=20 > > on L-D. I'm curious, being a 'delay' pedal, what=20 > advantages it may=20 > > have over the 'looping' pedals such as RC-20 >=20 > The short answer: it's a delay pedal. >=20 > The slightly longer answer: control of feedback (in the EDP=20 > sense), unrounded multiply, weird artifacts. >=20 > (I have to admit here that I've never used a RC-20, RC-2 or=20 > RC-50. I have been using a DL4 for quite a long time - and=20 > like its looper mode for what it does, but would have liked=20 > it if the delay modes had 14s delay time as well). >=20 > Keep in mind, though, that the looper mode of the DD20 sucks. >=20 > Rainer >=20 >=20 >=20 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web LIVE =96 Free email based on Microsoft=AE Exchange=20 > technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE >=20 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 17:35:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F8713BED9; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:35:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=SUDn7cIiApH7PJNQEQQJNnYjp3NCSCcvqFTd/rWvGug=; b=Q6gQsRphies0hge+GUlrNJ7Ju0oFzqj38AevMrLRujyknUc78enivSPY2gNCaCdBs/lDl6Yu06vxJs7JQMQMwd4NUTOt1c9iqgHQNMy2Bfj12v+OOwO4SJLM81p69nwNlXMHGiHASHhXR79No2XBsBmOdVFTi73hPUNM79ghd7c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=DloapoObtjJehRyicqw81Etz1AIFjpJaXU76UKEp7uaFLBqWI0o3AMUaw6iDFwUrR4JQhGU9fTnVqGivRIpTHzoVimDSI3SId0lXR5dI1Wzk5lweyUo6xLMRIvekwZ4zKq9DpT4MVA96iTV0MUXfmtOGIxJoNDp2QfMmwXTQ7Jo= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0710251035l7c549aebie9ad7adf326ba6e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:35:17 -0700 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: How to simulate a piano sustain pedal with a midi controller like FCB1010 or FC-300 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1922_8519490.1193333717773" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:35:19 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1922_8519490.1193333717773 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 10/25/07, Sjaak wrote: > simulate a piano sustain pedal to control synths? What I would like to > have is 1 pedal: > * pressing it => sustain ON > * releasing it => OFF > That should work fine by; Pressing down = MIDI CC#64 value 127 Releasing = MIDI CC#64 value 0 The trick in simulating piano sustain with synth sounds is how you program the synth sound, ie the setting of the hold and decay parameters. I made a bunch of such patches for an all synth looping set-up I play with an EWI. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) ------=_Part_1922_8519490.1193333717773 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 10/25/07, Sjaak <tcplugin@scarlet.be> wrote:

    simulate a piano sustain pedal to control synths? What I would like to have is 1 pedal:
    * pressing it => sustain ON
    * releasing it => OFF

    That should work fine by;
    Pressing down = MIDI CC#64 value 127
    Releasing = MIDI CC#64 value 0

    The trick in simulating piano sustain with synth sounds is how you program the synth sound, ie the setting of the hold and decay parameters. I made a bunch of such patches for an all synth looping set-up I play with an EWI.

    --
    Greetings from Sweden

    Per Boysen
    www.boysen.se (Swedish)
    www.looproom.com (international)

    ------=_Part_1922_8519490.1193333717773-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 17:47:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 976613BECC; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hLVndRFCAAAA:8 a=qx2geUsMAAAA:8 a=O2fWextdtQ07iYwSKIoA:9 a=F65Lf-DqRtpibjCR1qwA:7 a=zPoGZ1ytAIakzMkQsoeLHJfNdmsA:4 a=WETEYgVfkbYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=WN8zLioqDSwA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp09.embarq.synacor.com smtp.mail=echohead@embarqmail.com; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp09.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=echohead@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp09.embarq.synacor.com: 71.48.241.17 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of embarqmail.com) Message-ID: <001c01c8172f$257bef00$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <002601c8172d$5caa7020$1001a8c0@succubus> Subject: Re: dd-20 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:47:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Yes Rainer thats what happened to me, I bought both and I love both, I feed the dl4 w/ expression pedal into the dd20 and have not run out of really cool stuff, I think the EH 2880 is next. peace out, Jeff http://thisphase.org/lips.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: ; Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 1:34 PM Subject: AW: dd-20 >Hi Qua, >snipped< >Now my two recommendations: >1. Delay-oriented: Boss DD-20 Gigadelay >2. Sampler-oriented: Line6 DL4 >Perhaps just go to a music .store, try both, try also to connect them in series, and see what you like >better - most probably you'll end up getting both. >Rainer > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: qua@oregon.com [mailto:qua@oregon.com] > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25. Oktober 2007 19:02 > An: rs@moinlabs.de > Betreff: dd-20 > > Hi, > a few folks have recommended the dd-20 for me as a good one > to start with to get the 'feel' of looping and experimenting, > and having creative fun ... before venturing into more full > featured products like Mobius (s/w) or > EDP (h/w) that also have bigger learning curves > > would you agree? > -Qua > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill rs@moinlabs.de > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:52:33 +0200 > To: qua@oregon.com > Subject: AW: GIGADELAY! > > > > on L-D. I'm curious, being a 'delay' pedal, what > advantages it may > > have over the 'looping' pedals such as RC-20 > > The short answer: it's a delay pedal. > > The slightly longer answer: control of feedback (in the EDP > sense), unrounded multiply, weird artifacts. > > (I have to admit here that I've never used a RC-20, RC-2 or > RC-50. I have been using a DL4 for quite a long time - and > like its looper mode for what it does, but would have liked > it if the delay modes had 14s delay time as well). > > Keep in mind, though, that the looper mode of the DD20 sucks. > > Rainer > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web LIVE - Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange > technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE > > > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.10/1091 - Release Date: 10/24/2007 2:31 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 17:50:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12FA13BEDA; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:50:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <380-220071042517503890@M2W035.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: qua@oregon.com X-Originating-IP: 134.134.136.4 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "qua@oregon.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:50:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: dd-20 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:50:44 +0000 (UTC) Hi Rainer, Thanks so much for taking time to explain things so well! This= is very useful information for me (and perhaps others who may be lurking o= n LD)=2E I live in a rural area and seldom am able to spend time in a music= store=2E Many have responded with helpful suggestions to my posted questi= ons on this topic=2E Your response has really given me the extra bit of information that is exactly what I needed :-) -Qua Original Message: ----------------- From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill rs@moinlabs=2Ede Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:34:57 +0200 To: qua@oregon=2Ecom, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight=2Ecom Subject: AW: dd-20 Hi Qua, (forwarding this to LD as well, because this might be of interest to other= s) first of all, I believe that it doesn't matter that much with which looper= you start - you'll rather quickly discover what you like about it and what= you don't like and can then take that into consideration when "venturing into more full featured products"=2E Of course, from a ROI standpoint, it would make sense to get something whi= ch you'll continue to use even when you switch to EDP, Mobius, MAX/MSP, Looperlative, Repeater or whatever=2E In the realm of the rather cheap yet still powerful loop pedals, I personally do know two devices more deeply, but will also comment a little= on the Boss RC series (but please consider that I haven't ever played one = of those)=2E First, an excursion: There are basically two concepts how to see (and to design) a looper=2E On= e is a delay=2E The other one is a phrase sampler with overdub capability=2E Th= e simple loopers are from their implementation and user interface either one= or the other, the more powerful ones, while being either one from their implementation, can be used in either way=2E Delay-oriented loopers have a variable feedback setting which is used all the time=2E There is no real record vs=2E overdub difference - you set the= delay length, and when you send something into the input, you record into the loop, and when you turn the input off, you don't=2E The delay time can be = set either by manually selecting it, or by tap tempo (if available)=2E "Unroun= ded Multiply" (lengthening the loop by repeating its contents or shortening it= by only keeping a part of it) may be possible=2E If it's not possible, cha= nces are that you can varispeed the loop=2E There are no transport controls like reverse, stutter, halfspeed (safe for= possibly varispeed, see above) or even stop/start=2E There's sometimes not= even a quick way to erase the loop - you have to turn feedback to 0 and wa= it for one cycle=2E Sampler-oriented loopers work like this: You hit a button, start playing, hit that button again, and the loop plays=2E You can then hit a button to = go in and out of overdub=2E When not in overdub, feedback is always 100%, it'= s below that during overdub (but not configurable on the simpler loopers)=2E= Normally, you can't unrounded multiply or varispeed, but you may be able t= o stop/restart, stutter, reverse and halfspeed=2E As I said before, the more powerful loopers allow you to have all these functions and to work more delay- or sampler-like as you wish=2E Now my two recommendations: 1=2E Delay-oriented: Boss DD-20 Gigadelay Here, I don't talk about its Sound-On-Sound mode, because that is rubbish=2E= This is about the normal delay modes=2E You get a 23s stereo delay=2E You can have two delays of up to 23s (in ste= reo) sounding at the same time, and you can even do a trick and extend the loop= time to 46s in mono (I think Ted developed that)=2E You can do unrounded multiply, adjusting the delay length of a running loo= p causes slight pitching or when doing it more radically weird artifacts=2E 2=2E Sampler-oriented: Line6 DL4 You get 14s of loop length (28s in halfspeed) in mono, plus a pre-loop 800= ms delay (with great varispeed effects) plus modulation=2E Transport controls= are record/overdub, stop/start, stutter and reverse/halfspeed=2E Feeback durin= g overdub ist (I think) 90%, no way to control that=2E Apart from that, the delay modes of the DL4 are also great=2E So, which one to get=3F I don't know=2E=2E=2Eboth are great tools=2E A lot= of looping artists have worked deeply with the DL4 (the Walkers are two examples who did a lot with one or two of them=2E You might also check out Genie for so= me very showoff-effect-ladden material played with just a guitar into the DL4= )=2E On the LD site's "tools of the trade" section, there's also lots of info o= n the DD20, and I use one myself in my microrig (Zoom G2=2Eu into DD20), and= the feature to have two independent loops going at the same time sets it apart= from=2E=2E=2Ewell almost every other hardware looper (exception being the Looperlative)=2E Both are also tools which you're most probably going to keep when someday you switch to a more powerful looper=2E In that realm, the DL4 might be slightly superior because its delay models are (imho) more useable than those of the DD20 for "interesting delay sounds"=2E Perhaps just go to a m= usic store, try both, try also to connect them in series, and see what you like= better - most probably you'll end up getting both=2E About the Boss RC series: These seem to me very much oriented at people who want to lay down a chord= progression and then solo over it=2E Not that much of tricky sound manglin= g - just pure phrase sampling with overdub=2E =09Rainer > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: qua@oregon=2Ecom [mailto:qua@oregon=2Ecom]=20 > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 25=2E Oktober 2007 19:02 > An: rs@moinlabs=2Ede > Betreff: dd-20 >=20 > Hi, > a few folks have recommended the dd-20 for me as a good one=20 > to start with to get the 'feel' of looping and experimenting,=20 > and having creative fun =2E=2E=2E before venturing into more full=20 > featured products like Mobius (s/w) or > EDP (h/w) that also have bigger learning curves =20 >=20 > would you agree=3F =20 > -Qua >=20 > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill rs@moinlabs=2Ede > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:52:33 +0200 > To: qua@oregon=2Ecom > Subject: AW: GIGADELAY! >=20 >=20 > > on L-D=2E I'm curious, being a 'delay' pedal, what=20 > advantages it may=20 > > have over the 'looping' pedals such as RC-20 >=20 > The short answer: it's a delay pedal=2E >=20 > The slightly longer answer: control of feedback (in the EDP=20 > sense), unrounded multiply, weird artifacts=2E >=20 > (I have to admit here that I've never used a RC-20, RC-2 or=20 > RC-50=2E I have been using a DL4 for quite a long time - and=20 > like its looper mode for what it does, but would have liked=20 > it if the delay modes had 14s delay time as well)=2E >=20 > Keep in mind, though, that the looper mode of the DD20 sucks=2E >=20 > =09Rainer >=20 >=20 >=20 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web LIVE =96 Free email based on Microsoft=AE Exchange=20 > technology - http://link=2Email2web=2Ecom/LIVE >=20 >=20 >=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web=2Ecom =96 Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Micro= soft=AE Exchange - http://link=2Email2web=2Ecom/Personal/EnhancedEmail From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 17:59:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B04E3BEC5; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:59:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4720DD8B.3030302@post.cybercity.dk> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:16:43 +0200 From: van Sinn Reply-To: vansinn@post.cybercity.dk Organization: van Sinn User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: How to simulate a piano sustain pedal with a midi controller like FCB1010 or FC-300 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7y_q5.A.ZFH.cmNIHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:59:57 +0000 (UTC) Sjaak wrote: > Hi, > I'm thinking of buying a midi foot controller. Does anyone if it's > possible to simulate a piano sustain pedal to control synths? > Searching the net resulted in information that it was only possible to > program 2 pedals instead of 1 on for example the FCB1010....... > > Pedal 1 => midi controle message 64 with value between 64-127 => ON > Pedal 2 => midi controle message 64 with value between 0-63 => OFF > > What I would like to have is 1 pedal: > * pressing it => sustain ON > * releasing it => OFF > > I also found some info on customized EPROM's for the FCB1010 from > Belgium expanding the feature set of the FCB1010. Does anyone know if > it's worth buying it? > > Does anyone know the main differences or plus/minus between the FCB1010 > and the Roland FC-300. Btw: price is less important, I'm looking for a > good and well working midi controller. So other suggestions are welcome :) > > Sjaak The UnO chip from Xavier implements 5 PC and 5 CC buttons instead of the normal 10 PC ones, plus programming and dumps is done without powering the FCB1010 on/off while holding down buttons. I can't tell if it'll let you do what you want, though it looks like it. If you need lotsa flexibility, take a look at his own pedals at http://gordius.be; he's also very good at talking about requirements. -- rgds, van Sinn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 19:33:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 124993BED2; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:27:23 -0400 From: Dan Ash Subject: re: How to simulate a piano sustain pedal with a midi controller like FCB1010 or FC-300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <4720EE1B.7030000@Verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) Resent-Message-ID: <3d0CyD.A.rSF.C-OIHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:33:23 +0000 (UTC) Not familiar with the FC-300, but I believe there are others on the list that are - check the LD archives. There are two Yahoo! groups that host discussions about the FCB1010: 'fcb1010' and 'fcb1010_uno'. The UnO firmware upgrade is probably the one you referred to - it stands for 'UnOfficial' - so Behringer presumably won't support it. > Pedal 1 => midi controle message 64 with value between 64-127 => ON > Pedal 2 => midi controle message 64 with value between 0-63 => OFF The FAQ page for the fcb1010_uno group specifically refers to a feature 'CC momentary toggling'. It sounds like this may be what you're looking for. I know that the stock chip enables toggling CC64 on/off using the same pedal but two key presses. I have also used the rocker pedals to do this. Clumsy, but it works. 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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 20:15:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70B493BEC2; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:15:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 300 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:15:37 UTC From: "dave eichenberger" To: References: <4720EE1B.7030000@Verizon.net> In-Reply-To: <4720EE1B.7030000@Verizon.net> Subject: RE: How to simulate a piano sustain pedal with a midi controller like FCB1010 or FC-300 Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:10:22 -0400 Message-ID: <006b01c81743$144c6de0$3ce549a0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgXPehtLCg3F8uSSyCbvf0kNsJlJgABOPDQ Content-language: en-us X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19MRtTNnjHzmQQRR3j5sSn76BOSMKdN9/jkDQ6 VNIFDJuWVzEhbQd1aS+V3WMoB7L4+OMqgFLGbfDMAjb1IUplP+ L2FpIecotzX/Kg/W5VsWGhrniErsGKOpngNwpFZpn4= Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:15:38 +0000 (UTC) I will say, the UnO firmware doesn't allow you to change banks while holding down a pedal. It puts the FCB into 'transpose' mode, which transposes incoming note-on messages by a specific amount. dave eichenberger www.daveeichenberger.com > Pedal 1 => midi controle message 64 with value between 64-127 => ON > Pedal 2 => midi controle message 64 with value between 0-63 => OFF The FAQ page for the fcb1010_uno group specifically refers to a feature 'CC momentary toggling'. It sounds like this may be what you're looking for. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 25 20:22:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A22313BED2; Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:22:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_f36c8ebf-d8af-418c-b0f3-1551debc10fe_" X-Originating-IP: [207.145.216.106] From: aaron leese To: Subject: SUBSCRIPTION CHANGE Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:21:58 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <006b01c81743$144c6de0$3ce549a0$@com> References: <4720EE1B.7030000@Verizon.net> <006b01c81743$144c6de0$3ce549a0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Oct 2007 20:21:59.0228 (UTC) FILETIME=[B20A17C0:01C81744] Resent-Message-ID: <-KYft.A.da.orPIHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:22:00 +0000 (UTC) --_f36c8ebf-d8af-418c-b0f3-1551debc10fe_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20 Hey Kim -- or whoever. =20 Could you please switch the subscription to this listserv to aaronleese@fly= loops.com (and remove aaronleese@hotmail.com). =20 Makes things easier for me. =20 Thanks, Aaron Leese =20 > From: dave@daveeichenberger.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>= Subject: RE: How to simulate a piano sustain pedal with a midi controller = like FCB1010 or FC-300> Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:10:22 -0400> > I will say= , the UnO firmware doesn't allow you to change banks while holding> down a = pedal. It puts the FCB into 'transpose' mode, which transposes> incoming no= te-on messages by a specific amount.> > dave eichenberger> www.daveeichenbe= rger.com> > > Pedal 1 =3D> midi controle message 64 with value between 64-1= 27 =3D> ON> > Pedal 2 =3D> midi controle message 64 with value between 0-63= =3D> OFF> The FAQ page for the fcb1010_uno group specifically refers to a = feature > 'CC momentary toggling'. It sounds like this may be what you're l= ooking > for.> > >=20 _________________________________________________________________ Boo!=A0Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare= ! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=3Dwl_hotma= ilnews= --_f36c8ebf-d8af-418c-b0f3-1551debc10fe_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  
     
    Hey Kim -- or whoever.
     
    Could you please switch the subscription to this listserv to aaronleese@flyloops.com (and remove aaronleese@hotmail.com).
     
    Makes things easier for me.
     
    Thanks,
    Aaron Leese
     


    > From: dave@daveeichenberger.com
    > To: Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com
    > Subject: RE: How to simulate a piano sustain peda= l with a midi controller like FCB1010 or FC-300
    > Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2= 007 16:10:22 -0400
    >
    > I will say, the UnO firmware doesn't al= low you to change banks while holding
    > down a pedal. It puts the FCB= into 'transpose' mode, which transposes
    > incoming note-on messages = by a specific amount.
    >
    > dave eichenberger
    > www.daveei= chenberger.com
    >
    > > Pedal 1 =3D> midi controle message = 64 with value between 64-127 =3D> ON
    > > Pedal 2 =3D> midi c= ontrole message 64 with value between 0-63 =3D> OFF
    > The FAQ page= for the fcb1010_uno group specifically refers to a feature
    > 'CC mo= mentary toggling'. It sounds like this may be what you're looking
    > = for.
    >
    >
    >


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All rights From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 02:02:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B0323BECC; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=KJz9HGP2vlnTLBTjqHVfmqs1cXpwk5CNlMQnrDY/JUL2wS+QJj+/8KKdOWgm5qddZG384kzsOZik62kpGTl64dpxK3wH7JkphfZ5moiVSaRentM45h6cCJNMOIcjcDv2U6vTKhxBWDvJRuWVnjKbn/o5XEpNMi3IvqlTKdpexdg=; X-YMail-OSG: zWQewAoVM1ktnwVEPoJ1MBiQTtubxbDMMfV.vHqhRA.qOxp35Y4g3noZ2eM_gQ22_J5WTzjAvvxYzHIjz7fm.GbEMJJtbgbhE_a1_eD90.jZ5gip3gAEUnngLGNlFQ-- Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:02:39 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Subject: RE: Kevin's theramin performance - amazing To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <105214.20924.qm@web32702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6S7S3D.A.NG.ArUIHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, You could alwayys try a Paia kit. I love mine. But you have to build it. I think they will build it for you for a nominal fee. Rig --- Lorenzo Orlandini wrote: > I am buying a theremin as soon as I find a decent, > reasonably priced one. Is there anywhere I can find > Kevin's work online? I am interested! > > thanks, > > Lorenzo > > > > > Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:28:06 -0500 > > From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: Kevin's theramin performance - > amazing > > > > Quoting Qua Veda : > > > > > Hi Kevin, > > > Your theramin performance was amazing. Thick > rich tones, and beautiful > > > compositions! > > > A real highlight for me at y2k7 > > > > > > -Qua > > > > > Qua, Jim, and to all, > > > > Thank you very much for your kind comments about > my looped theremin > > set. The outpouring of support is > much-appreciated and I feel > > motivated to create more looped music. > > > > I learned much from watching and listening to > everyone (I heard nearly > > all of the sets). Your music, conversation, and > encouragement means a > > lot to me. I am sure that everyone at the > festival left with ideas, > > energy, and motivation to create more amazing > music! I'm pleased to > > be a part of the looping community. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Kevin > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Conosci Doretta? Contattala, è ora su Messenger! > http://www.doretta82.it/banner/index.html __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 02:49:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 992473BED2; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:49:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=bHcoaA4wI1WhWaSjwczoNY5g9HkjBQGv5c58HmYElq4=; b=b3i1W4PcOE4WE4Cc9UoEQdxap719Soz58yUi46Zf/PyFaxW3lYtVxjowjr1mXFVJxak0HzJe+PXBtP60/j2EuZ1UqfV1E96hf/jLiKD+nbbEJb5NE2mPd/YUkZTGC4BOoc5fh+/9kxavaEn1+Rm/wTcJt0t628oZr4M5+KAsYHk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=q7+LWYGohlFDRWeP5FBth+AJ5J8exmaSrfo/7IUTI0xmrnORjNANP/KliqzzS/sLDWyQzWDAqQIpq70gq6mWLvkzZ/F6tRnhJPqo0K+V0s+Xc0PHp2rIH0nxRxuerpr+95Q6SFczcoNFkp7SWspLMKJDE+3fDt93qIjjkC//Vf0= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 04:49:15 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: aurisis MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4911_24729941.1193366955040" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:49:16 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4911_24729941.1193366955040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline does anybody know if kim or somebody is still behind of aurisis research? is the online shop operative? thnx! raul. -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_4911_24729941.1193366955040 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline does anybody know if kim or somebody is
    still behind of aurisis research?
    is the online shop operative?

    thnx!
    raul.


    --
    The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_4911_24729941.1193366955040-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 08:42:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B5B13BED2; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:42:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "nick@12testing.net" To: "Loopers-Delight" , "Sjaak" Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:42:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: How to simulate a piano sustain pedal Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <4721B66B.27228.35C419@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:42:12 +0000 (UTC) On 25 Oct 2007 at 11:47, Sjaak wrote: > I also found some info on customized EPROM's for the FCB1010 from > Belgium expanding the feature set of the FCB1010. Does anyone know if > it's worth buying it? the Uno chip for the FCB is VERY cheap and offers a lot of extra options, including the one you're looking for. You can progam a switch to send alternate CC values (you set them) - it's then simply a matter of finding what CC number controls the sound source. The FCB yahoo groups offer huge amounts of info... http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/fcb1010_uno From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 14:06:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D81C3BEC7; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:06:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00ca01c817d9$49ea40d0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: "Krispen Hartung" , "Erdem Helvacioglu" , "Rick Walker" , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" , "MEGABYTE MIKE" , "AARON LEESE" , "ADAM ANTIUM the PLUM" , "ARILD ANDERSEN" , "BARRY CLEVELAND" , "BEAU CASEY (Cypod)" , "BILL WALKER" , "BOB AMSTADT" , "CARL WEINGARTEN" , "CHINA PAINTING (Daryl Shawn)" , "CHINA PAINTING (Jim Goodin)" , "CPR aka Chris Roberts" , "CRAIG GREEN (bemf artist)" , "CRAIG McCOLLOUGH" , "CYOAKHA" , "DANIEL THOMAS 1" , "Daniel Thomas_2" , "Daniel Thomas at APPLE" , "DUKE SEXTON" , "FABIO ANILE" , "GARY REGINA" , "GENIE" , "GLENN SMITH" , "GREG WILLIAMS" , "HARRY WEINBERG" , "HENRY KAISER" , "JD DEVROS" , "JOE RUT - Lumper/Splitter" , "KEVIN KISSINGER" , "KRISPEN HARTUNG" , "LEANDER REININGHAUS" , "MARK HAMBURG" , "MATT DAVIGNON" , "MATTHIAS GROB" , "MICHAEL KLOBUCHAR" , "MOJOW and the VIBRATION ARMY" , "PETER COR" , "RANDOLF ARRIOLA (Singapore looper)" , "SCOTT HUCKABAY" References: <017101c8160e$77dd3c80$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> <074101c81721$b0777ec0$0400000a@erdem> <007801c8174f$97c192c0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Y2K7 Mp3s Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:05:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C7_01C817A6.FB340700" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:06:32 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00C7_01C817A6.FB340700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, I have uploaded the first batch of MP3s to my server. Please reveiw your = clips. If you are fine with them, let me know and I'll post them on the = website. Also, don't forget to send me your favorite picture taken by = Mark. A few notes. Last year I recorded directly from the board and the = recordings sounded much more studio like and higher quality. This year, = as you saw, I was recording live from two condensor mics. Hence, don't = expect perfection on these. On occasion, you can hear audience chatter, = things moving around in the back of the room, etc. But I did the best I = could to cut out dead air space and bring the recordings up to line = level so they are audible. They are a decent documentation of the event, = but not CD worthy, in my honest opnion. http://www.box.net/shared/o1cqrfgf5k On the server now are MP3s from: Aaron Leese Arild Andersen Chris Cohn Chris Roberts Criaig McCoullough CYPOD Duke Sexton (Dust Bunnies) Fabior Anile Gene Hendry Kaiser Kaiser-Walker-Andersen Kevin Kissinger Per Boysen Peter Cor Randolf Arriola Rick Walker Erdem Helvacioglu Mojo and the Vibration Army Krispen Hartung I will post Sunday's clips this weekend. Kris ------=_NextPart_000_00C7_01C817A6.FB340700 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Hello all,
     
    I have uploaded the first batch of MP3s = to my=20 server. Please reveiw your clips. If you are fine with them, let me know = and=20 I'll post them on the website. Also, don't forget to send me your = favorite=20 picture taken by Mark.
     
    A few notes. Last year I recorded = directly from the=20 board and the recordings sounded much more studio like and higher = quality. This=20 year, as you saw, I was recording live from two condensor mics. Hence, = don't=20 expect perfection on these.  On occasion, you can hear audience = chatter,=20 things moving around in the back of the room, etc. But I did the best I = could to=20 cut out dead air space and bring the recordings up to line level so they = are=20 audible. They are a decent documentation of the event, but not CD = worthy, in my=20 honest opnion.
     
    http://www.box.net/shared/o= 1cqrfgf5k
     
    On the server now are MP3s = from:
     
    Aaron Leese
    Arild Andersen
    Chris Cohn
    Chris Roberts
    Criaig McCoullough
    CYPOD
    Duke Sexton (Dust Bunnies)
    Fabior Anile
    Gene
    Hendry Kaiser
    Kaiser-Walker-Andersen
    Kevin Kissinger
    Per Boysen
    Peter Cor
    Randolf Arriola
    Rick Walker
    Erdem Helvacioglu
    Mojo and the Vibration = Army
    Krispen Hartung
     
    I will post Sunday's clips this=20 weekend.
     
     
    Kris
     
     
    ------=_NextPart_000_00C7_01C817A6.FB340700-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 14:45:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF6663BEDA; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:45:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 10:45:11 -0400 From: Warren Sirota Subject: RE: Y2K7 Mp3s In-reply-to: <00ca01c817d9$49ea40d0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <02c301c817de$d00e5d40$4b02a8c0@warren5d67d038> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ORKbYysjGoA8y9q+w4J+hQ)" Thread-index: AcgX2Wr3aQYNuQIRQA+21Uc1gk3dnAAA1eEg Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:45:15 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_ORKbYysjGoA8y9q+w4J+hQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thanks, Kris. I now have a great soundtrack for the day. Listening to Per's lovely work right now. It is just so cool. Ahhhhh... Like a dip in a fresh mountain stream. I think "document" is a good description for the sound - having been at a couple of the LoopFests including Y2K6 at the same location, this brings me right into the experience, which is so great. So I dig the "room tone" - it's certainly good enough (so far) to make for an exciting and uplifting experience. It might even be more involving than a more perfect recording, at least for some. _____ From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:06 AM Subject: Y2K7 Mp3s Hello all, I have uploaded the first batch of MP3s to my server. Please reveiw your clips. If you are fine with them, let me know and I'll post them on the website. Also, don't forget to send me your favorite picture taken by Mark. A few notes. Last year I recorded directly from the board and the recordings sounded much more studio like and higher quality. This year, as you saw, I was recording live from two condensor mics. Hence, don't expect perfection on these. On occasion, you can hear audience chatter, things moving around in the back of the room, etc. But I did the best I could to cut out dead air space and bring the recordings up to line level so they are audible. They are a decent documentation of the event, but not CD worthy, in my honest opnion. http://www.box.net/shared/o1cqrfgf5k --Boundary_(ID_ORKbYysjGoA8y9q+w4J+hQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

    Thanks, Kris. I now have a great soundtrack for the day. Listening to Per’s lovely work right now. It is just so cool. Ahhhhh... Like a dip in a fresh mountain stream. 

     

    I think “document” is a good description for the sound – having been at a couple of the LoopFests including Y2K6 at the same location, this brings me right into the experience, which is so great. So I dig the “room tone” – it’s certainly good enough (so far) to make for an exciting and uplifting experience. It might even be more involving than a more perfect recording, at least for some.

     

    From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]
    Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:06 AM

    Subject: Y2K7 Mp3s

     

    Hello all,

     

    I have uploaded the first batch of MP3s to my server. Please reveiw your clips. If you are fine with them, let me know and I'll post them on the website. Also, don't forget to send me your favorite picture taken by Mark.

     

    A few notes. Last year I recorded directly from the board and the recordings sounded much more studio like and higher quality. This year, as you saw, I was recording live from two condensor mics. Hence, don't expect perfection on these.  On occasion, you can hear audience chatter, things moving around in the back of the room, etc. But I did the best I could to cut out dead air space and bring the recordings up to line level so they are audible. They are a decent documentation of the event, but not CD worthy, in my honest opnion.

     

     

     

    --Boundary_(ID_ORKbYysjGoA8y9q+w4J+hQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 15:15:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 994CB3BEDD; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:15:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <011701c817e3$0e69d110$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <02c301c817de$d00e5d40$4b02a8c0@warren5d67d038> Subject: Re: Y2K7 Mp3s Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:15:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0114_01C817B0.C2D52290" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:15:38 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0114_01C817B0.C2D52290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ahhh...I did not mean to send this to LD. Sorry.=20 Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 Thanks, Kris. I now have a great soundtrack for the day. Listening to = Per's lovely work right now. It is just so cool. Ahhhhh... Like a dip in = a fresh mountain stream. =20 =20 I think "document" is a good description for the sound - having been = at a couple of the LoopFests including Y2K6 at the same location, this = brings me right into the experience, which is so great. So I dig the = "room tone" - it's certainly good enough (so far) to make for an = exciting and uplifting experience. It might even be more involving than = a more perfect recording, at least for some. =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]=20 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:06 AM Subject: Y2K7 Mp3s =20 Hello all, =20 I have uploaded the first batch of MP3s to my server. Please reveiw = your clips. If you are fine with them, let me know and I'll post them on = the website. Also, don't forget to send me your favorite picture taken = by Mark. =20 A few notes. Last year I recorded directly from the board and the = recordings sounded much more studio like and higher quality. This year, = as you saw, I was recording live from two condensor mics. Hence, don't = expect perfection on these. On occasion, you can hear audience chatter, = things moving around in the back of the room, etc. But I did the best I = could to cut out dead air space and bring the recordings up to line = level so they are audible. They are a decent documentation of the event, = but not CD worthy, in my honest opnion. =20 http://www.box.net/shared/o1cqrfgf5k =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0114_01C817B0.C2D52290 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Ahhh...I did not mean to send this to = LD. Sorry.=20
     
    Kris
     
    ----- Original Message -----

     

    Thanks, = Kris. I now=20 have a great soundtrack for the day. Listening to Per=92s lovely work = right now.=20 It is just so cool. = Ahhhhh...=20 Like a dip in a fresh mountain stream.  =

     

    I think = =93document=94 is=20 a good description for the sound =96 having been at a couple of the = LoopFests=20 including Y2K6 at the same location, this brings me right into the = experience,=20 which is so great. So I dig the =93room tone=94 =96 it=92s certainly = good enough (so=20 far) to make for an exciting and uplifting experience. It might even = be more=20 involving than a more perfect recording, at least for=20 some.

     

    From: Krispen=20 Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]
    Sent:     Friday, October 26, 2007 = 10:06=20 AM

    Subject: = Y2K7=20 Mp3s

     

    Hello=20 all,

     

    I have uploaded the = first batch of=20 MP3s to my server. Please reveiw your clips. If you are fine with = them, let me=20 know and I'll post them on the website. Also, don't forget to send me = your=20 favorite picture taken by Mark.

     

    A few notes. Last year I = recorded=20 directly from the board and the recordings sounded much more studio = like and=20 higher quality. This year, as you saw, I was recording live from two = condensor=20 mics. Hence, don't expect perfection on these.  On occasion, you = can hear=20 audience chatter, things moving around in the back of the room, etc. = But I did=20 the best I could to cut out dead air space and bring the recordings up = to line=20 level so they are audible. They are a decent documentation of the = event, but=20 not CD worthy, in my honest opnion.

     

    http://www.box.net/shared/o= 1cqrfgf5k

     

     

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    WUQZIIECOTTFBDCBSCTKCPBJLFUDDSMWIJKMKV From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 17:01:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B3353BED3; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:01:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 472 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:01:13 UTC Message-ID: <1811.208.97.187.133.1193417599.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 09:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FS: MIJ 1970s Les Paul copy From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:01:14 +0000 (UTC) I didn't want to post this but local sales are dragging their footsies so here we go: I'm selling a Lori Japanese Les Paul. It was made in the 1970s and has model # P-90 on the back. Typical Les Paul Setup of two humbuckers two vol/tone, three way switch. Bolt on neck, pearl inlay fret board, very well made and it's an AMAZING player. A few months ago I had it set up at Bluebond in Phila. It has upgraded pots, wires, output jack, and pickguard to make it that perfect creme black beauty style. Also has a HOT a Dimarzio and one original which mix together wonderfully for a variety of thick tones. This guitar has it's share of nicks and such but is in excellent shape. If you're familiar with the various Ibanez lawsuit models from the 1970s (they had a number of Bolt on necks as well and currently go for $500+) this is comparable in every way. These 70s Japanese guitars were VERY well built Pic here: http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/ebay/LESPAUL.JPG (enlarge for more detail) I am asking $200 and that price is firm. It's worth that plus. If you're looking for an amazing guitar that sounds great and plays like a dream at a super affordable price this is it. It also looks pretty damn cool and beats the HELL out of the EPIs out there today. Trades for weird effects, synthesizer stuff, odd instruments possible. Cyndustries and Modcan gear of particular interest. Please include a phone # you actually answer (heh) to speed things up. Shipping is from Phila PA and I have a nice big double box setup but buyer pays shipping (figure about $40 US). Pickup is swell too and I can do the paypal thang. Thanks! ------------------------------------------------ Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 17:52:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8348D3BED6; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:52:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=zFnqn8TGf4bYh3Q+B7fC2r4ywgU3CLHXkkU40W6ISCE=; b=oKSXmgapJb5aflsnVgOqsTM1uwcT0wxAd2NLMt2ZVPJLnZe6w58xLr/pA1eRy/MPbslnpkr3WImgFlaY+yJjfPJnXt7+CqErjlgu37LidAWdAhO7Co/V65QBkB4bqb6irzJcryUTgnGDoggPATe/3TM8HHUeEpVYoKZ6RCa9XZo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pynBRTqw9De1BtgTQ3ndqSczIGHkOQ/q1y7rWTdb5xYdvJ6rF3vhPdZVQSrb0I7PKmLkIE+mjP4zhTsJMuMbOgytQtlg34W/1SgwISC1V1iT4zGr4vVl/zLKrt3MtcVp9GVXG9ihHJMw3kJwIDsNPMOO3XqcXeMpsV2/2MR3iaE= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:52:14 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FS: MIJ 1970s Les Paul copy In-Reply-To: <1811.208.97.187.133.1193417599.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <1811.208.97.187.133.1193417599.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 17:52:17 +0000 (UTC) I love these old MIJ guitars (I have 1/2 a dozen of them.) If this Lori is anything like the Electra's from the 70's, it's a nice guitar. Lori is an odd brand though. Any history on it? Tony On 10/26/07, legion@helpwantedproductions.com wrote: > I didn't want to post this but local sales are dragging their footsies so > here we go: > > I'm selling a Lori Japanese Les Paul. It was made in the 1970s and has > model # P-90 on the back. Typical Les Paul Setup of two humbuckers two > vol/tone, three way switch. Bolt on neck, pearl inlay fret board, very > well made and it's an AMAZING player. > > A few months ago I had it set up at Bluebond in Phila. It has upgraded > pots, wires, output jack, and pickguard to make it that perfect creme > black beauty style. Also has a HOT a Dimarzio and one original which mix > together wonderfully for a variety of thick tones. > > This guitar has it's share of nicks and such but is in excellent shape. If > you're familiar with the various Ibanez lawsuit models from the 1970s > (they had a number of Bolt on necks as well and currently go for $500+) > this is comparable in every way. These 70s Japanese guitars were VERY well > built > > Pic here: http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/ebay/LESPAUL.JPG > (enlarge for more detail) > > I am asking $200 and that price is firm. It's worth that plus. If you're > looking for an amazing guitar that sounds great and plays like a dream at > a super affordable price this is it. It also looks pretty damn cool and > beats the HELL out of the EPIs out there today. > > Trades for weird effects, synthesizer stuff, odd instruments possible. > Cyndustries and Modcan gear of particular interest. Please include a phone > # you actually answer (heh) to speed things up. > > Shipping is from Phila PA and I have a nice big double box setup but buyer > pays shipping (figure about $40 US). Pickup is swell too and I can do the > paypal thang. > > Thanks! > > ------------------------------------------------ > Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: > Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 18:26:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F4463BEE0; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:26:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=W4oSp2DFexcsQWJOeFRgHxhoZCIoB7VAb1oJ1HPla/s66ORPF/+BahLvRUWbpLI2XrKcuwJoJfuosKHyII2QIVNTt22An4dH8RmEGQyoR7eq+OnyA6j758K0k3AhqiFiQrrkAZMuLLHG4GyLLDc/n5QjFKEfc+/HglObETybdUc= ; X-YMail-OSG: 8rwRtDUVM1k1IH6e9IoiQyYZB_ta9hD7RpE6YquGnXkx5EJSxnAbhpSaXu0jeaWFEAS9e0Klnui7cvhyLyDbEiDf From: "murkie" To: Subject: Stick and 2880 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:25:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcgU/rWJiyPP9HE6Tum7s8G1HDkYjAC/Unlw In-Reply-To: <20071022225557.22F433BF40@arsenic.violacea.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Message-Id: <20071026182600.CFE033BECA@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:26:01 +0000 (UTC) here's a couple of rough improvised pieces that were done (while practicing) using a Stick and a 2880. it's just me and the Adrenalinn/Drum machine. oh and the bass loop parts are done with a JamMan. it's the stereo out of my rig directly into a minidisc recorder. http://community.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkiestickpracticelooping%201.mp3 http://community.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkiestickpracticelooping%202.mp3 hope you like. m http://www.TwistedAppleRecords.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 18:26:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 689843BEE6; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:26:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=nDpH1cPNqBlh4060JtLw2qWJiswG4nFuUD4aplTsO8tPIWWNggGcDrJPN4Vtdx9Ir+gi50L50VEUt32sZzIUT061PpwZbQtWzGMYeX8bG0VtD9xXt+d7UGBlXVuYg+09b6buqgvcAZfYgcMJwZuuvM8grXcoyYSgH+SGAkyGLJo=; X-YMail-OSG: iCfxpCcVM1kVjziN9Gu9Ar_UeCGGuWoAxbHBqRYD Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:26:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: AW: dd-20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <002601c8172d$5caa7020$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <14130.4413.qm@web38611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:26:22 +0000 (UTC) This is absolutely true Rainer, on the other hand i find the DD-20´s tap tempo function a lot more accurate than the DL4s,i can´t even set a simple the edge type delay tempo with the DL4s, it doesnt sound as clear and its quite unpredictable,or am i doing something wrong? cheers Luis > you switch to a more powerful looper. In that realm, > the DL4 might be > slightly superior because its delay models are > (imho) more useable than > those of the DD20 for "interesting delay sounds". > Perhaps just go to a music > store, try both, try also to connect them in series, > and see what you like > better - most probably you'll end up getting both. > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 18:33:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4C453BEE6; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:33:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: AW: dd-20 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:33:26 +0200 Message-ID: <200710261833.l9QIXQx7017512@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> In-Reply-To: <14130.4413.qm@web38611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: AW: dd-20 Thread-Index: AcgX/ba2WR9mHzdARK26XNBVA+XWdgAALl7g References: <002601c8172d$5caa7020$1001a8c0@succubus> <14130.4413.qm@web38611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> From: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2007 18:33:26.0928 (UTC) FILETIME=[B2D1B900:01C817FE] Resent-Message-ID: <_-aL4D.A.aN.5LjIHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:33:29 +0000 (UTC) I've only used my dd-20 very briefly so far, but here's a stupid = question; when I tried the tap tempo I could here a tap noise (imagine = that). When I go to record, will that be audible? david moore transient alert 86 mxs/mxmta 480-2061/5378 -----Original Message----- From: L.A. Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 8:26 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: dd-20 This is absolutely true Rainer, on the other hand i find the DD-20=B4s tap tempo function a lot more accurate than the DL4s,i can=B4t even set a simple the edge type delay tempo with the DL4s, it doesnt sound=20 as clear and its quite unpredictable,or am i doing something wrong? cheers Luis > you switch to a more powerful looper. In that realm, > the DL4 might be > slightly superior because its delay models are > (imho) more useable than > those of the DD20 for "interesting delay sounds". > Perhaps just go to a music > store, try both, try also to connect them in series, > and see what you like > better - most probably you'll end up getting both. >=20 >=20 www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around=20 http://mail.yahoo.com=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 18:52:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 335B03BEE4; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:52:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Stick and 2880 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:52:38 +0200 Message-ID: <200710261852.l9QIqcx7021392@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> In-Reply-To: <20071026182600.CFE033BECA@arsenic.violacea.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Stick and 2880 Thread-Index: AcgU/rWJiyPP9HE6Tum7s8G1HDkYjAC/UnlwAAEbV2A= References: <20071022225557.22F433BF40@arsenic.violacea.com> <20071026182600.CFE033BECA@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2007 18:52:38.0817 (UTC) FILETIME=[61660910:01C81801] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:52:40 +0000 (UTC) That sounds really great! Those are the first links I've been able to listen to on my work (govt) computer!=20 I want to start recording! I don't have a computer at home and I can't add music programs to my work computer! I want to record the same way you did, straight from my setup to some sort of a good/cheap recorder.=20 I've never had a minidisk recorder...is it that easy? I have an Olympus digital voice recorder with a mic input? Could you please let me know exactly what kind to get and how it works? I think it sounded great! david moore transient alert 86 mxs/mxmta 480-2061/5378 -----Original Message----- From: murkie [mailto:sinister_footwear@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 8:26 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Stick and 2880 here's a couple of rough improvised pieces that were done (while practicing) using a Stick and a 2880. it's just me and the Adrenalinn/Drum machine. oh and the bass loop parts are done with a JamMan. it's the stereo out of my rig directly into a minidisc recorder. =20 http://community.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkiestickpracticelooping%201 .mp3 http://community.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkiestickpracticelooping%202 .mp3 hope you like. m http://www.TwistedAppleRecords.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 19:00:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC7DB3BEE1; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:00:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 577 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:00:54 UTC X-WELL-Auth: Yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <31698.61937.qm@web34214.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <31698.61937.qm@web34214.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 11:50:17 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Rochelle Gordon , stan greve , Todd Hallawell , Rick Hansen , Roy Hatcher , Kevin Hiatt , Barbara Hill , Garrick Hudson , SEBRON JACKSON , Walker James , Dennis Jamison , Bethea Jenner , jfreund@pittstate.edu, jlutt69@yahoo.com, Joel , "John Vs.the Jukebox" , keith@kmarshall.com, Joe Klinkon , Marci Klotz , Gary Lehmann , Linz , Lisa , Andy McKee Mailing List , Janice Malan , Greg McDowell , Jan Meredith , misterm456@aol.com, Incite Bill and Carrie Mulder , Daryl Needham , Starrfadu News , JP Nickel , JP Nickel , JP Nickel , Nikki , MLPeace , Doug or Marsha Phillips , raineyamanda@hotmail.com, ShIronbutterfly Ray , Eric Redlhammer , Thomas Rhodes , Rhonda From: Chris Muir Subject: Re: Fwd: URGENT VIRUS ALERT....READ AND PASS ON ASAP!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.91.2/4599/Fri Oct 26 04:27:38 2007 on paz.well.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:00:55 +0000 (UTC) A five year old hoax. Before spamming the world, you should really check something like Snopes first: http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/life.asp -C -- Chris Muir | "There are many futures and only one status quo. cbm@well.com | This is why conservatives mostly agree, http://www.xfade.com | and radicals always argue." - Brian Eno From kouadio1232003@yahoo.co.jp Fri Oct 26 19:07:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 405 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:07:36 UTC Received: from web3111.mail.kcd.yahoo.co.jp (web3111.mail.kcd.yahoo.co.jp [124.147.38.3]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C55F3BECD for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:07:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 3101 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Oct 2007 19:00:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=yj20050223; d=yahoo.co.jp; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kFBLYY4UgBZCmY7/x5ZBxRe3kYzArSpofMSWvNwHjtQPkgo7Nn2bvweScsyT9Vcxp7rAsLRYFp1YBREovQNyRPlOr3gYjQL3IxIRiLPYEvYJ+UxYenHEqP+0OEdkmU7w ; Message-ID: <20071026190047.3099.qmail@web3111.mail.kcd.yahoo.co.jp> Received: from [41.207.16.222] by web3111.mail.kcd.yahoo.co.jp via HTTP; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 04:00:47 JST Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 04:00:47 +0900 (JST) From: "kouadio1232003@yahoo.co.jp" Reply-To: f_kouadio123@yahoo.fr Subject: Hello Dearest one, To: kouadio1232003@yahoo.co.jp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-493469561-1193425247=:558" --0-493469561-1193425247=:558 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp >From Florence Kouadio Treichville Abidjan Ivory coast, How are you and your health that is very important to me? I am Florence Kouadio, The only child of late Mr and Mrs Kouadio, My Late father was a very wealthy Cocoa Merchant based in Abidjan, the Economic Capital of Ivory Coast before he was poisoned to death by his Business Associates in connection with my uncle who was with him that day on the business outing to discuss on a business deal with some of his foreign business partner. With bitter tears am typing this today,my heart is heavy of sadness and my soul is dying at my tender age of 19. My father was a very rich Cocoa Merchant here in Cote 'd'ivoire and he was a very popular man before he died,so when he was about to die he told me that he had some amount of huge money (US 10.3m) ten million three hundred thousand United States dollars in his fixed / suspense account here in cote d'ivoire and he also told me that he wanted me to go abroad and study because l am a very brilliant girl . He also told me that l should seek for a foreign partner that l should send the money to because for the fear of his family member and after the money is confirmed received by my partner in oversea l should then go there to continue my education while my partner should invest the money in a very profitable business of his or her choice since l know nothing or less about investment and the profit must be shared between me and my partner so i am honorably seeking your assistance in the following ways . 1) To provide a NEW BANK ACCOUNT (please not your own account) where this money would be transferred. 2) To serve as the guardian of this fund. 3) To make arrangement for me to come over to your country to further my education and to secure a residential permit for me in your country. Moreover, dear, i am willing to offer you 15% of the total sum as compensation for your effort input after the successful transfer of this fund to your nominated account oversea. Please am appealing to you to please assist me so that l can smile again, l am writing this mail to you with full of bitter tears flowing down my eyes because l can say you are the only one that is left for me in this whole world. Just yesterday my late fathers relative came and threatened me that they will kill me if l don't give them the document of my late fathers money so l went to bank where the money was saved to inform the bank director and the bank director told me that l should transfer the money abroad with immediate effect as instructed by my late father so that this people will not be able to kill me as they killed my Dad,the bank director said he will do his best to make sure that the money is transferred abroad,l need someone who will be truthful , loyal financial capable enough so that l cansend the money my late father left for me to, once you agree to assist me by this time next week l will be waiting to hear a good news from you that you have received the money into A NEW ACCOUNT (please open a new account to avoid mistrust). Please l will be waiting to hear from you if you're really serious and interested and capable to help me get this money transfer, so that l can send the contact of the bank where my late father saved the money before he died to you so that you can request for quick transfer requirement and information which you will use to receive the money my late father left for me and please when you receive the money. please l will like you to keep it secret for the safety of the money and my life. More importantly, l will send the bank address to you and how you will contact them if you really serious and capable to help me in transferring this money abroad. I have the believe that one day I will become a person in life if you could help me out, I pray that God will also help you, (amen). Hoping to hear from you soonest. Thanks And God Bless. Best regards. Florence Kouadio --------------------------------- Easy + Joy + Powerful = Yahoo! 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    From Florence Kouadio 
    Treichville Abidjan Ivory coast,
           How are you and your health that is very important to me? I am Florence Kouadio, The only child of late Mr and Mrs Kouadio, My Late father was a very wealthy Cocoa Merchant based in Abidjan, the Economic Capital of Ivory Coast before he was poisoned to death by his Business Associates in connection with my uncle who was with him that day on the business outing to discuss on a business deal with some of his foreign business partner.  
        With bitter tears am typing this today,my heart is heavy of sadness and my soul is dying at my tender age of 19. My father was a very rich Cocoa Merchant here in Cote 'd'ivoire and he was a very popular man before he died,so when he was about to die he told me that he had some amount of huge money (US 10.3m) ten million three hundred thousand United States dollars in his fixed / suspense account here in cote d'ivoire and he also told me that he wanted me to go abroad and study because l am a very brilliant girl .
          He also told me that l should seek for a foreign partner that l should send the money to because for the fear of his family member and after the money is confirmed received by my partner in oversea l should then go there to continue my education while my partner should invest the money in a very profitable business of his or her choice since l know nothing or less about investment and the profit must be shared between me and my partner so  i am honorably seeking your assistance in the following ways .

    1) To provide a NEW BANK ACCOUNT (please not your own account) where this money would be transferred.
    2) To serve as the guardian of this fund.
    3) To make arrangement for me to come over to your country to further my
     education and to secure a residential permit for me in your country.
     
       Moreover, dear, i am willing to offer you 15% of the total sum as compensation for your effort input after the successful transfer of this fund to your nominated account oversea.
    Please am appealing to you to please assist me so that l can smile again, l am writing this mail to you with full of bitter tears flowing down my eyes because l can say you are the only one that is left for me in this whole world.
         Just yesterday my late fathers relative came and threatened me that they will kill me if l don't give them the document of my late fathers money so l went to bank where the money was saved to inform the bank director and the bank director told me that l should transfer the money abroad with immediate effect as instructed by my late father so that this people
    will not be able to kill me as they killed my Dad,the bank director said he will do his best to make sure that the money is transferred abroad,l need someone  who will be truthful , loyal  financial capable enough so that l cansend the  money my late father left for me to, once you agree to assist me by this time next week l will be waiting to hear a good news from you that you have received the money into A NEW ACCOUNT (please open a new account to avoid mistrust).
        Please l will be waiting to hear from you if you're really serious and interested and capable to help me get this money transfer, so that l can send the contact of the bank where my late father saved the money before he died to you so that you can request for quick transfer requirement and information which you will use to receive the money my late father left for me and please when you receive the money. please l will like you to keep it secret for the safety of the money and my life. More importantly, l will send the bank address to you and how you will contact them if you really serious and capable  to help me in transferring this money abroad.
        I have the believe that one day I will become a person in life if you could help me out, I pray that God will also help you, (amen).
    Hoping to hear from you soonest.
    Thanks And God Bless.
    Best regards.
    Florence Kouadio
     
     

    Easy + Joy + Powerful = Yahoo! Bookmarks x Toolbar
    --0-493469561-1193425247=:558-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 19:34:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75BA83BEDA; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: <20071022225557.22F433BF40@arsenic.violacea.com> <20071026182600.CFE033BECA@arsenic.violacea.com> <200710261852.l9QIqcx7021392@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> In-Reply-To: <200710261852.l9QIqcx7021392@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> Subject: RE: Stick and 2880 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:34:49 -0700 Message-ID: <000801c81807$4638e2b0$d2aaa810$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgU/rWJiyPP9HE6Tum7s8G1HDkYjAC/UnlwAAEbV2AAAa9SgA== Content-Language: en-us X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: D438f059000001bf5.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:34:33 +0000 (UTC) HI David Thanks for sharing. Cool sounds on the ...202.mp3. are those from the 2880 ? -Qua -----Original Message----- From: Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA [mailto:David.Moore@ramstein.af.mil] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:53 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Stick and 2880 That sounds really great! Those are the first links I've been able to listen to on my work (govt) computer! I want to start recording! I don't have a computer at home and I can't add music programs to my work computer! I want to record the same way you did, straight from my setup to some sort of a good/cheap recorder. I've never had a minidisk recorder...is it that easy? I have an Olympus digital voice recorder with a mic input? Could you please let me know exactly what kind to get and how it works? I think it sounded great! david moore transient alert 86 mxs/mxmta 480-2061/5378 -----Original Message----- From: murkie [mailto:sinister_footwear@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 8:26 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Stick and 2880 here's a couple of rough improvised pieces that were done (while practicing) using a Stick and a 2880. it's just me and the Adrenalinn/Drum machine. oh and the bass loop parts are done with a JamMan. it's the stereo out of my rig directly into a minidisc recorder. http://community.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkiestickpracticelooping%201 .mp3 http://community.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkiestickpracticelooping%202 .mp3 hope you like. m http://www.TwistedAppleRecords.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 19:38:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D64E3BED6; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:38:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Stick and 2880 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:38:53 +0200 Message-ID: <200710261938.l9QJcsx7002908@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> In-Reply-To: <000801c81807$4638e2b0$d2aaa810$@com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Stick and 2880 Thread-Index: AcgU/rWJiyPP9HE6Tum7s8G1HDkYjAC/UnlwAAEbV2AAAa9SgAAAFzeg References: <20071022225557.22F433BF40@arsenic.violacea.com> <20071026182600.CFE033BECA@arsenic.violacea.com> <200710261852.l9QIqcx7021392@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> <000801c81807$4638e2b0$d2aaa810$@com> From: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Oct 2007 19:38:54.0731 (UTC) FILETIME=[D7F8E5B0:01C81807] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:38:56 +0000 (UTC) Those aren't mine! I was just replying to that email! david moore transient alert 86 mxs/mxmta 480-2061/5378 -----Original Message----- From: Qua Veda [mailto:qua@oregon.com]=20 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:35 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Stick and 2880 HI David Thanks for sharing. Cool sounds on the ...202.mp3. are those from the 2880 ? -Qua -----Original Message----- From: Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA [mailto:David.Moore@ramstein.af.mil]=20 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:53 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Stick and 2880 That sounds really great! Those are the first links I've been able to listen to on my work (govt) computer!=20 I want to start recording! I don't have a computer at home and I can't add music programs to my work computer! I want to record the same way you did, straight from my setup to some sort of a good/cheap recorder.=20 I've never had a minidisk recorder...is it that easy? I have an Olympus digital voice recorder with a mic input? Could you please let me know exactly what kind to get and how it works? I think it sounded great! david moore transient alert 86 mxs/mxmta 480-2061/5378 -----Original Message----- From: murkie [mailto:sinister_footwear@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 8:26 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Stick and 2880 here's a couple of rough improvised pieces that were done (while practicing) using a Stick and a 2880. it's just me and the Adrenalinn/Drum machine. oh and the bass loop parts are done with a JamMan. it's the stereo out of my rig directly into a minidisc recorder. =20 http://community.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkiestickpracticelooping%201 .mp3 http://community.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkiestickpracticelooping%202 .mp3 hope you like. m http://www.TwistedAppleRecords.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 19:43:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16FE03BEDC; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:43:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: Cc: References: <20071022225557.22F433BF40@arsenic.violacea.com> <20071026182600.CFE033BECA@arsenic.violacea.com> <200710261852.l9QIqcx7021392@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> <000801c81807$4638e2b0$d2aaa810$@com> <200710261938.l9QJcsx7002908@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> In-Reply-To: <200710261938.l9QJcsx7002908@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> Subject: RE: Stick and 2880 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:43:58 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01c81808$8e4a2d10$aade8730$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgU/rWJiyPP9HE6Tum7s8G1HDkYjAC/UnlwAAEbV2AAAa9SgAAAFzegAAAzriA= Content-Language: en-us X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: D45b50278000020a1.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:43:47 +0000 (UTC) Oops! sorry David, hit too quickly. OK, Murkie , please see below -Qua -----Original Message----- From: Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA [mailto:David.Moore@ramstein.af.mil] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 12:39 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Stick and 2880 Those aren't mine! I was just replying to that email! david moore transient alert 86 mxs/mxmta 480-2061/5378 -----Original Message----- From: Qua Veda [mailto:qua@oregon.com] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 9:35 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Stick and 2880 HI David Thanks for sharing. Cool sounds on the ...202.mp3. are those from the 2880 ? -Qua -----Original Message----- From: Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA [mailto:David.Moore@ramstein.af.mil] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:53 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Stick and 2880 That sounds really great! Those are the first links I've been able to listen to on my work (govt) computer! I want to start recording! I don't have a computer at home and I can't add music programs to my work computer! I want to record the same way you did, straight from my setup to some sort of a good/cheap recorder. I've never had a minidisk recorder...is it that easy? I have an Olympus digital voice recorder with a mic input? Could you please let me know exactly what kind to get and how it works? I think it sounded great! david moore transient alert 86 mxs/mxmta 480-2061/5378 -----Original Message----- From: murkie [mailto:sinister_footwear@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 8:26 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Stick and 2880 here's a couple of rough improvised pieces that were done (while practicing) using a Stick and a 2880. it's just me and the Adrenalinn/Drum machine. oh and the bass loop parts are done with a JamMan. it's the stereo out of my rig directly into a minidisc recorder. http://community.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkiestickpracticelooping%201 .mp3 http://community.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkiestickpracticelooping%202 .mp3 hope you like. m http://www.TwistedAppleRecords.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 19:45:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48DA43BEE4; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:45:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: dd-20 vs. DL4 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:45:47 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000001c81808$ce5c9c80$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <14130.4413.qm@web38611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: AcgX/bYjgTqMuvX9QumSK/QYZTZ8ZQACkTWA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD10+29g0cgPEWcJC4= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:45:23 +0000 (UTC) > This is absolutely true Rainer, on the other hand i find the=20 > DD-20=B4s tap tempo function a lot more accurate than the=20 > DL4s,i can=B4t even set a simple the edge type delay tempo with=20 > the DL4s, it doesnt sound as clear and its quite=20 > unpredictable,or am i doing something wrong? Personally, I find the DL4's footswitches somewhat hard to press mechanically, this might lead to your experience with tapping tempo on = the DL4. Apart from that, no problems with timing accuracy, but then again, = I'm horribly untight. What do you mean by "simple the edge type delay tempo" - is this a = reference to "The Edge" of U2 (who, judging from the contentx, obviously uses very short rhytmic delays)? You might get better results (if you do not need = the "creative sound" delays in that application) by using the rhythmic delay algorithm and tapping longer intervals. I don't use the DL4 for clean delays (because for that, I have the D2 or = the Eclipse), and never use it "in line" (as opposed to a send effect) = except for rehearsal room situations. And obviously, when using the filter = delay or space echo algorithm, I don't look that much for clear sound. Again, what do you mean by "unpredictable"? What I found to be sometimes unpredictable (unless you use some precautions) is how the expression = pedal works when switching between user presets. Apart from that, it seems = quite deterministic to me... Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 19:54:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 055213BEEE; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:54:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2066 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:54:12 UTC X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.6 X-EN-IMPSID: 57AV1Y00607rVmq0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 12:08:28 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: Fwd: URGENT VIRUS ALERT....READ AND PASS ON ASAP!!! In-Reply-To: References: <31698.61937.qm@web34214.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 4e12c5fe79f298d3e0334846d6e14b72:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 64.121.34.10 X-EN-OrigHost: 64-121-34-10.c3-0.snmt-ubr1.sfrn-snmt.ca.static.cable.rcn.com Message-Id: <20071026195411.42F293BEDC@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:54:12 +0000 (UTC) The original message had this text in it: THIS HAS BEEN CONFIRMED BY SNOPES So it must have been true. At 2007.10.26 10:50 AM, Chris Muir wrote: >A five year old hoax. Before spamming the world, you should really >check something like Snopes first: >http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/life.asp ps for those that might think I'm being serious, I'm not. this is my form of very dry bitingly sarcastic wit. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 20:19:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91E583BED2; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:19:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 5712 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:19:07 UTC Message-ID: <001601c81800$27acecd0$0201a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <1811.208.97.187.133.1193417599.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Subject: Re: MIJ 1970s Les Paul copy Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:43:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:19:08 +0000 (UTC) Do you have any recordings of the sound of this guit online? >I didn't want to post this but local sales are dragging their footsies so > here we go: > > I'm selling a Lori Japanese Les Paul. It was made in the 1970s and has > model # P-90 on the back. Typical Les Paul Setup of two humbuckers two > vol/tone, three way switch. Bolt on neck, pearl inlay fret board, very > well made and it's an AMAZING player. > > A few months ago I had it set up at Bluebond in Phila. It has upgraded > pots, wires, output jack, and pickguard to make it that perfect creme > black beauty style. Also has a HOT a Dimarzio and one original which mix > together wonderfully for a variety of thick tones. > > This guitar has it's share of nicks and such but is in excellent shape. If > you're familiar with the various Ibanez lawsuit models from the 1970s > (they had a number of Bolt on necks as well and currently go for $500+) > this is comparable in every way. These 70s Japanese guitars were VERY well > built > > Pic here: http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/ebay/LESPAUL.JPG > (enlarge for more detail) > > I am asking $200 and that price is firm. It's worth that plus. If you're > looking for an amazing guitar that sounds great and plays like a dream at > a super affordable price this is it. It also looks pretty damn cool and > beats the HELL out of the EPIs out there today. > > Trades for weird effects, synthesizer stuff, odd instruments possible. > Cyndustries and Modcan gear of particular interest. Please include a phone > # you actually answer (heh) to speed things up. > > Shipping is from Phila PA and I have a nice big double box setup but buyer > pays shipping (figure about $40 US). Pickup is swell too and I can do the > paypal thang. > > Thanks! > > ------------------------------------------------ > Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: > Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Oct 26 20:26:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0AFF3BEDC; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:26:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <3097.208.97.187.133.1193430413.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 13:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: FS: MIJ 1970s Les Paul copy From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: "Tony K" Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.10a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:26:55 +0000 (UTC) I've had this for about two years and did a lot of searching. All I could come up with is Lori made some strat type copies. I know I have seen these older ones around but I'll be damned where. One guy on HC wrote they're built in Japan, "either at the Matsumoku or Ibanez factory" but I'm an Ibz freak and never heard of these at Hoshino. The punchline is I got this from an Engineer with too much money and too much time on his hands. He had a Jimmy page fetish so he put about $150+ in upgrades into it getting all new Gibson humbucker mounts, pickguard, all new pots, the Dimarzio and redid all the wiring. Then he got a Gibson for a "steal" ($2k he hold me) so he sold this one. I got it set up for recording but only have jammed in the basement with it. Since I have an Ibanez fetish and found two axes of joy this year I figure it's time to share the wealth. I priced it super low for what it is but I figure most folks won't know this sleeper so that's a price I'd be happy with if it got to a good home. Anything less and I'll continue to enjoy it for many many years to come myself :) > I love these old MIJ guitars (I have 1/2 a dozen of them.) If this > Lori is anything like the Electra's from the 70's, it's a nice guitar. > Lori is an odd brand though. Any history on it? Tony > > On 10/26/07, legion@helpwantedproductions.com > wrote: >> I'm selling a Lori Japanese Les Paul. It was made in the 1970s and has >> model # P-90 on the back. Typical Les Paul Setup of two humbuckers two >> vol/tone, three way switch. Bolt on neck, pearl inlay fret board, very >> well made and it's an AMAZING player. >> >> A few months ago I had it set up at Bluebond in Phila. It has upgraded >> pots, wires, output jack, and pickguard to make it that perfect creme >> black beauty style. Also has a HOT a Dimarzio and one original which mix >> together wonderfully for a variety of thick tones. >> >> This guitar has it's share of nicks and such but is in excellent shape. >> If you're familiar with the various Ibanez lawsuit models from the 1970s >> (they had a number of Bolt on necks as well and currently go for $500+) >> this is comparable in every way. These 70s Japanese guitars were VERY >> well built >> >> Pic here: http://www.helpwantedproductions.com/ebay/LESPAUL.JPG >> (enlarge for more detail) >> >> I am asking $200 and that price is firm. It's worth that plus. If you're >> looking for an amazing guitar that sounds great and plays like a dream >> at a super affordable price this is it. It also looks pretty damn cool >> and beats the HELL out of the EPIs out there today. >> Trades for weird effects, synthesizer stuff, odd instruments possible. >> Cyndustries and Modcan gear of particular interest. Please include a >> phone # you actually answer (heh) to speed things up. >> Shipping is from Phila PA and I have a nice big double box setup but >> buyer pays shipping (figure about $40 US). Pickup is swell too and I >> can do the paypal thang. ------------------------------------------------ Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From mustafa_alain2@latinmail.com Sat Oct 27 01:03:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4058 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:03:05 UTC Received: from smtp.latinmail.com (smtp.latinmail.com [62.37.236.186]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83CB3BEC5; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from unknown (unknown [172.17.224.52]) by smtp.latinmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id C95809A7544; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 02:48:29 +0200 (CEST) From: "mustafa alain" To: mustafa_alain2@latinmail.com Subject: TREAT VERY CONFIDENTIAL & URGENT RESPONSE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="latinmail.com_ltwebml01.localdomain_6772901109f596effabfbc94cfca0d28" Importance: normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20071027004829.C95809A7544@smtp.latinmail.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 02:48:29 +0200 (CEST) --latinmail.com_ltwebml01.localdomain_6772901109f596effabfbc94cfca0d28 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FROM THE DESK OF DR .MUSTAFA ALAIN BILL AND EXCHANGE MANAGER BANK OF AFRICA. OUAGADOUGOU,BURKINA FASO. TOP SECRET DEAR FRIEND =20 I AM DR.MUSTAFA ALAIN. THE BILL AND EXCHANGE MANAGER AT THE FOREIGN REM= ITTANCE DEPARTMENT OF BANK OF AFRICA. I GOT YOUR CONTACT FROM THE INTER= NET ,WHILE SEACHING FOR AN HONEST AND TRUST WORTHY PERSON, WHO WILL ASS= IST ME TO IMPLEMENT THIS TRANSFER.L DISCOVERED THE SUM OF TWENTY TWO MI= LLION AND FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS (USD22.5M) BELONG= ING TO A DECEASED CUSTOMER OF THIS BANK. =20 THE FUND HAS BEEN LYING IN A SUSPENCE ACCOUNT WITHOUT ANYBODY COMING T= O PUT CLAIM OVER THE MONEY SINCE THE ACCOUNT OWNER LATE MR JOHN KOROVO FR= OM JORDAN , WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THE DECEMBER 25TH 2003 BENIN PLANE CRA= SH. HERE IS THE AIR CRASH WEBSITE ON CN HTTP://WWW.CNN.COM/2003/WORLD/AFRICA/12/26/BENIN.CRASH/INDEX.HTML THE SAID FUND IS NOW READY FOR TRANSFER TO A FORIEGN ACCOUNT WHOSE OWNE= R WILL BE PORTRAYED AS THE BENEFICIARY AND NEXT OF KIN TO THE DECEASED = CUSTOMER OF THE BANK. 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MUSTAFA ALAIN. =20 Argentina vota. =A1Sigue las presidenciales! http://www.starmedia.com/n= oticias/especiales/eleccionesargentina.html --latinmail.com_ltwebml01.localdomain_6772901109f596effabfbc94cfca0d28-- From mustafa_alain2@latinmail.com Sat Oct 27 01:14:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from smtp.latinmail.com (smtp.latinmail.com [62.37.236.187]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DC13BEC5; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:13:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by smtp.latinmail.com (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 645A2DE1386; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:48:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from unknown (unknown [172.17.224.52]) by smtp.latinmail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 51867DE147A; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:47:20 +0200 (CEST) From: "mustafa alain" To: mustafa_alain2@latinmail.com Subject: TREAT VERY CONFIDENTIAL & URGENT RESPONSE Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="latinmail.com_ltwebml01.localdomain_6772901109f596effabfbc94cfca0d28" Importance: normal MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20071026234720.51867DE147A@smtp.latinmail.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 01:47:20 +0200 (CEST) X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.500182, version=0.15.13 --latinmail.com_ltwebml01.localdomain_6772901109f596effabfbc94cfca0d28 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FROM THE DESK OF DR .MUSTAFA ALAIN BILL AND EXCHANGE MANAGER BANK OF AFRICA. OUAGADOUGOU,BURKINA FASO. TOP SECRET DEAR FRIEND =20 I AM DR.MUSTAFA ALAIN. THE BILL AND EXCHANGE MANAGER AT THE FOREIGN REM= ITTANCE DEPARTMENT OF BANK OF AFRICA. I GOT YOUR CONTACT FROM THE INTER= NET ,WHILE SEACHING FOR AN HONEST AND TRUST WORTHY PERSON, WHO WILL ASS= IST ME TO IMPLEMENT THIS TRANSFER.L DISCOVERED THE SUM OF TWENTY TWO MI= LLION AND FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND UNITED STATES DOLLARS (USD22.5M) BELONG= ING TO A DECEASED CUSTOMER OF THIS BANK. =20 THE FUND HAS BEEN LYING IN A SUSPENCE ACCOUNT WITHOUT ANYBODY COMING T= O PUT CLAIM OVER THE MONEY SINCE THE ACCOUNT OWNER LATE MR JOHN KOROVO FR= OM JORDAN , WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THE DECEMBER 25TH 2003 BENIN PLANE CRA= SH. HERE IS THE AIR CRASH WEBSITE ON CN HTTP://WWW.CNN.COM/2003/WORLD/AFRICA/12/26/BENIN.CRASH/INDEX.HTML THE SAID FUND IS NOW READY FOR TRANSFER TO A FORIEGN ACCOUNT WHOSE OWNE= R WILL BE PORTRAYED AS THE BENEFICIARY AND NEXT OF KIN TO THE DECEASED = CUSTOMER OF THE BANK. SINCE WE GOT INFORMATION ABOUT HIS DEATH, WE HAVE= BEEN EXPECTING HIS NEXT OF KIN TO COME OVER AND CLAIM HIS MONEY BECAUS= E WE CANNOT RELEASE IT UNLESS SOMEBODY APPLIES FOR IT AS NEXT OF KIN OR= RELATION TO THE DECEASED AS INDICATED IN OUR BANKING GUIDLINES AND LAW= S BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE LEARNT THAT ALL HIS SUPPOSED NEXT OF KIN OR RELA= TION DIED ALONGSIDE WITH HIM AT THE PLANE CRASH LEAVING NOBODY BEHIND F= OR THE CLAIM. =20 IT IS THEREFORE UPON THIS DISCOVERY THAT I DECIDED TO MAKE THIS BUSINES= S PROPOSAL TO YOU AND RELEASE THE MONEY TO YOU AS THE NEXT OF KIN OR RE= LATION TO THE DECEASED FOR SAFETY AND SUBSEQUENT DISBURSEMENT SINCE NOB= ODY IS COMING FOR IT AND I DON'T WANT THIS MONEY TO GO INTO THE BANK TR= EASURY AS UNCLAIMED BILL. =20 THE BANKING LAW AND GUIDLINE HERE STIPULATES THAT IF SUCH MONEY REMAINE= D UNCLAIMED AFTER FIVE YEARS, THE MONEY WILL BE TRANSFERED INTO THE BAN= K TREASURY AS UNCLAIMED FUND. THE REQUEST OF FOREIGNER AS NEXT OF KIN I= N THIS BUSINESS IS OCCASSIONED BY THE FACT THAT THE CUSTOMER WAS A FORE= IGNER AND A BURKINABE CANNOT STAND AS NEXT OF KIN TO A FOREIGNER. I THE= REFORE SOLICITING FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE TO COME FORWARD AS THE NEXT OF KI= N. I HAVE AGREED THAT 40% OF THIS MONEY WILL BE FOR YOU AS THE BENEFICIAR= Y IN RESPECT OF THE PROVISION OF YOUR ACCOUNT AND SERVICES RENDERED, 55% = WOULD BE FOR ME WHILE 5% WILL BE FOR EXPENCSES INCURED DURING THE CAUSE= OF THIS TRANSACTION IF THE MONEY IS TRANSFERRED TO YOUR ACCOUNT FROM B= ANK OF AFRICA, I AND MY FAMILY IN THIS TRANSACTION WILL PROCEED IMMEDIATELY TO YOUR COUNTRY FOR OUR OWN SHARE OF THE MONEY. I EXPECT YOU TO KEEP THIS BUSINESS STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL AND SECRET AS YOU MAY WISH TO KNOW THAT = I AM BANK OFFICIAL. =20 BE REST ASSURED THAT THIS BUSINESS IS 100% RISK FREE ON BOTH SIDE AND E= VERY ARRANGEMENT TO TRANSFER THIS MONEY TO THE ACCOUNT YOU ARE GOING TO= PROVIDE HAVE BEEN CONCLUDED PROVIDED WE MAINTAIN THE CONFIDENTIALITY A= ND SECRECEIRITY INVOLVED. CONTACT ME ON MY PRIVATE PHONE NUMBER( 226-76172071. OR EMAIL ADDRESS = AT() I AM LOOKING FORWARD FOR YOUR PROMPT RESPONSE. =20 YOURS FAITHFULLY, DR. MUSTAFA ALAIN. =20 Argentina vota. =A1Sigue las presidenciales! http://www.starmedia.com/n= oticias/especiales/eleccionesargentina.html --latinmail.com_ltwebml01.localdomain_6772901109f596effabfbc94cfca0d28-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 04:08:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 003193BECD; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 04:08:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: References: Subject: RE: Y2K7 mp3s Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:08:17 -0700 Message-ID: <001901c8184f$01258be0$6701a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: AcgYFi8SpBEVdf1nRzmLJRCoSyghPwANt8GA In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 04:08:17 +0000 (UTC) Hey Gang, after an unintentional omission of my MP3. Krispen has it up on the site now. http://www.box.net/shared/o1cqrfgf5k Thanks Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 04:39:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E6D63BECF; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 04:39:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=9Ps154EHAAAA:8 a=RadjR_6zU4d_dtem8jQA:9 a=4VATAUsGo51n_QTW0AEA:7 a=ZcLtnmx3LI1mLMk1p0UmhJ94ndkA:4 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=3rcunIF0aIMA:10 a=DY3EJOlVRdgA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=nDDEGGJ3WaDoYcN2Nn8A:9 a=Yw6UN2-njbe-MvS89kEA:7 a=z84TqywGWc_AmAPJWT7mQ3hnFpoA:4 a=WD2S8eiFAUIA:10 a=V9aB5C61OLQA:10 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.mail=echohead@embarqmail.com; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=echohead@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp07.embarq.synacor.com: 71.48.241.17 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of embarqmail.com) Message-ID: <001401c81853$4c5e2690$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <02c301c817de$d00e5d40$4b02a8c0@warren5d67d038> <011701c817e3$0e69d110$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: Y2K7 Mp3s Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:39:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C81831.C49E9350" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: <0ea1GC.A.94F.lDsIHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 04:39:01 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C81831.C49E9350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable er, uh, are these just for players? I can't see the tunes. I know that = ya didn,t mean ta post that to the general list but now that the cats = out of the bag may I beg a listen? a thousand apologies if I'm out of line. peace jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Krispen Hartung=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:15 AM Subject: Re: Y2K7 Mp3s Ahhh...I did not mean to send this to LD. Sorry.=20 Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 =20 Thanks, Kris. I now have a great soundtrack for the day. Listening = to Per's lovely work right now. It is just so cool. Ahhhhh... Like a dip = in a fresh mountain stream. =20 =20 I think "document" is a good description for the sound - having been = at a couple of the LoopFests including Y2K6 at the same location, this = brings me right into the experience, which is so great. So I dig the = "room tone" - it's certainly good enough (so far) to make for an = exciting and uplifting experience. It might even be more involving than = a more perfect recording, at least for some. =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]=20 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:06 AM Subject: Y2K7 Mp3s =20 Hello all, =20 I have uploaded the first batch of MP3s to my server. Please reveiw = your clips. If you are fine with them, let me know and I'll post them on = the website. Also, don't forget to send me your favorite picture taken = by Mark. =20 A few notes. Last year I recorded directly from the board and the = recordings sounded much more studio like and higher quality. This year, = as you saw, I was recording live from two condensor mics. Hence, don't = expect perfection on these. On occasion, you can hear audience chatter, = things moving around in the back of the room, etc. But I did the best I = could to cut out dead air space and bring the recordings up to line = level so they are audible. They are a decent documentation of the event, = but not CD worthy, in my honest opnion. =20 http://www.box.net/shared/o1cqrfgf5k =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20 Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.11/1093 - Release Date: = 10/25/2007 5:38 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C81831.C49E9350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    er, uh, are these just for players? I can't see the tunes. I know = that ya=20 didn,t mean ta post that to the general list but now that the cats out = of the=20 bag may I beg a listen?
    a thousand apologies if I'm out of line.
    peace
    jeff
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 Krispen=20 Hartung
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
    Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 = 11:15=20 AM
    Subject: Re: Y2K7 Mp3s

    Ahhh...I did not mean to send this to = LD. Sorry.=20
     
    Kris
     
    ----- Original Message -----

     

    Thanks, = Kris. I now=20 have a great soundtrack for the day. Listening to Per=92s lovely = work right=20 now. It is just so = cool.=20 Ahhhhh... Like a dip in a fresh mountain stream. =20

     

    I think = =93document=94=20 is a good description for the sound =96 having been at a couple of = the=20 LoopFests including Y2K6 at the same location, this brings me right = into the=20 experience, which is so great. So I dig the =93room tone=94 =96 = it=92s certainly=20 good enough (so far) to make for an exciting and uplifting = experience. It=20 might even be more involving than a more perfect recording, at least = for=20 some.

     

    From:=20 Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]
    Sent:     Friday, October 26, = 2007 10:06=20 AM

    Subject: = Y2K7=20 Mp3s

     

    Hello=20 all,

     

    I have uploaded the = first batch=20 of MP3s to my server. Please reveiw your clips. If you are fine with = them,=20 let me know and I'll post them on the website. Also, don't forget to = send me=20 your favorite picture taken by = Mark.

     

    A few notes. Last year = I=20 recorded directly from the board and the recordings sounded much = more studio=20 like and higher quality. This year, as you saw, I was recording live = from=20 two condensor mics. Hence, don't expect perfection on these.  = On=20 occasion, you can hear audience chatter, things moving around in the = back of=20 the room, etc. But I did the best I could to cut out dead air space = and=20 bring the recordings up to line level so they are audible. They are = a decent=20 documentation of the event, but not CD worthy, in my honest=20 opnion.

     

    http://www.box.net/shared/o= 1cqrfgf5k

     

     

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    Checked by AVG Free = Edition.
    Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.11/1093 - = Release Date:=20 10/25/2007 5:38 PM
    ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C81831.C49E9350-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 05:35:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5EF5A3BECD; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 05:35:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1193463320.4722ce181b7a7@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:35:20 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K7 Mp3s References: <02c301c817de$d00e5d40$4b02a8c0@warren5d67d038> <011701c817e3$0e69d110$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <001401c81853$4c5e2690$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> In-Reply-To: <001401c81853$4c5e2690$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 24.6.254.52 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 05:35:21 +0000 (UTC) The mp3's will be posted to the y2kloopfest.com site as each performer gives Krispen the thumbs up... peace -cpr Quoting Jeff Duke : > er, uh, are these just for players? I can't see the tunes. I know that ya > didn,t mean ta post that to the general list but now that the cats out of the > bag may I beg a listen? > a thousand apologies if I'm out of line. > peace > jeff > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Krispen Hartung > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:15 AM > Subject: Re: Y2K7 Mp3s > > > Ahhh...I did not mean to send this to LD. Sorry. > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Thanks, Kris. I now have a great soundtrack for the day. Listening to > Per's lovely work right now. It is just so cool. Ahhhhh... Like a dip in a > fresh mountain stream. > > > > I think "document" is a good description for the sound - having been at a > couple of the LoopFests including Y2K6 at the same location, this brings me > right into the experience, which is so great. So I dig the "room tone" - it's > certainly good enough (so far) to make for an exciting and uplifting > experience. It might even be more involving than a more perfect recording, at > least for some. > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:06 AM > > Subject: Y2K7 Mp3s > > > > Hello all, > > > > I have uploaded the first batch of MP3s to my server. Please reveiw your > clips. If you are fine with them, let me know and I'll post them on the > website. Also, don't forget to send me your favorite picture taken by Mark. > > > > A few notes. Last year I recorded directly from the board and the > recordings sounded much more studio like and higher quality. This year, as > you saw, I was recording live from two condensor mics. Hence, don't expect > perfection on these. On occasion, you can hear audience chatter, things > moving around in the back of the room, etc. But I did the best I could to cut > out dead air space and bring the recordings up to line level so they are > audible. They are a decent documentation of the event, but not CD worthy, in > my honest opnion. > > > > http://www.box.net/shared/o1cqrfgf5k > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.11/1093 - Release Date: > 10/25/2007 5:38 PM > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 05:48:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A70823BEDA; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 05:48:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <02ea01c8185d$035b9d60$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <02c301c817de$d00e5d40$4b02a8c0@warren5d67d038> <011701c817e3$0e69d110$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <001401c81853$4c5e2690$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> Subject: Re: Y2K7 Mp3s Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 23:48:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02E7_01C8182A.B81CB000" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 05:48:36 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02E7_01C8182A.B81CB000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here is the official MP3 page. I have been posting them as folks give me = the okay: http://www.y2kloopfest.com/mp3.html I still have Sunday's files to master, and still waiting for most of = Saturday performers to review their clips. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 er, uh, are these just for players? I can't see the tunes. I know that = ya didn,t mean ta post that to the general list but now that the cats = out of the bag may I beg a listen? a thousand apologies if I'm out of line. peace jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Krispen Hartung=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:15 AM Subject: Re: Y2K7 Mp3s Ahhh...I did not mean to send this to LD. Sorry.=20 Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 =20 Thanks, Kris. I now have a great soundtrack for the day. Listening = to Per's lovely work right now. It is just so cool. Ahhhhh... Like a dip = in a fresh mountain stream. =20 =20 I think "document" is a good description for the sound - having = been at a couple of the LoopFests including Y2K6 at the same location, = this brings me right into the experience, which is so great. So I dig = the "room tone" - it's certainly good enough (so far) to make for an = exciting and uplifting experience. It might even be more involving than = a more perfect recording, at least for some. =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]=20 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:06 AM Subject: Y2K7 Mp3s =20 Hello all, =20 I have uploaded the first batch of MP3s to my server. Please = reveiw your clips. If you are fine with them, let me know and I'll post = them on the website. Also, don't forget to send me your favorite picture = taken by Mark. =20 A few notes. Last year I recorded directly from the board and the = recordings sounded much more studio like and higher quality. This year, = as you saw, I was recording live from two condensor mics. Hence, don't = expect perfection on these. On occasion, you can hear audience chatter, = things moving around in the back of the room, etc. But I did the best I = could to cut out dead air space and bring the recordings up to line = level so they are audible. They are a decent documentation of the event, = but not CD worthy, in my honest opnion. =20 http://www.box.net/shared/o1cqrfgf5k =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20 Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.11/1093 - Release Date: = 10/25/2007 5:38 PM ------=_NextPart_000_02E7_01C8182A.B81CB000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Here is the official MP3 page. I have = been posting=20 them as folks give me the okay:
     
    http://www.y2kloopfest.com/m= p3.html
     
    I still have Sunday's files to master, = and still=20 waiting for most of Saturday performers to review their = clips.
     
    Kris
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----

     
    er, uh, are these just for players? I can't see the tunes. I know = that ya=20 didn,t mean ta post that to the general list but now that the cats out = of the=20 bag may I beg a listen?
    a thousand apologies if I'm out of line.
    peace
    jeff
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 Krispen=20 Hartung
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
    Sent: Friday, October 26, = 2007 11:15=20 AM
    Subject: Re: Y2K7 Mp3s

    Ahhh...I did not mean to send this = to LD.=20 Sorry.
     
    Kris
     
    ----- Original Message ----- =

     

    Thanks, = Kris. I=20 now have a great soundtrack for the day. Listening to Per=92s = lovely work=20 right now. It is just so=20 cool. Ahhhhh... Like a dip in a fresh mountain stream. =20

     

    I think = =93document=94 is a good description for the sound =96 having been = at a couple=20 of the LoopFests including Y2K6 at the same location, this brings = me right=20 into the experience, which is so great. So I dig the =93room = tone=94 =96 it=92s=20 certainly good enough (so far) to make for an exciting and = uplifting=20 experience. It might even be more involving than a more perfect = recording,=20 at least for some.

     

    From:=20 Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]
    Sent:     Friday, October 26, = 2007 10:06=20 AM

    Subject: = Y2K7=20 Mp3s

     

    Hello=20 all,

     

    I have uploaded the = first=20 batch of MP3s to my server. Please reveiw your clips. If you are = fine with=20 them, let me know and I'll post them on the website. Also, don't = forget to=20 send me your favorite picture taken by=20 Mark.

     

    A few notes. Last = year I=20 recorded directly from the board and the recordings sounded much = more=20 studio like and higher quality. This year, as you saw, I was = recording=20 live from two condensor mics. Hence, don't expect perfection on=20 these.  On occasion, you can hear audience chatter, things = moving=20 around in the back of the room, etc. But I did the best I could to = cut out=20 dead air space and bring the recordings up to line level so they = are=20 audible. They are a decent documentation of the event, but not CD = worthy,=20 in my honest opnion.

     

    http://www.box.net/shared/o= 1cqrfgf5k

     

     

    No virus found in this incoming message.
    Checked by AVG = Free=20 Edition.
    Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.11/1093 - = Release=20 Date: 10/25/2007 5:38 PM
    ------=_NextPart_000_02E7_01C8182A.B81CB000-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 07:05:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C78683BED2; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 07:05:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=003p3GGBmeJo1jxXZgxQNAmGM6iTP9Yv4ArtIqQ7ZSKY3cnxXBXVUOn1DR+bpcfCXcy9qi43Ls6pXe++5kA6lUSqp5VVryT7ho2eprf0SyOACsXEvCNlBVArENpSXF5M6XHSzNPXdFmXROIZc4+YDEbz2ZB0J7PRooSqA8p3cRg=; X-YMail-OSG: UmrSQ_wVM1n83WmSx56HRprBmsIh7VAAx1Pu.pBT_wEJMeRhfMMr0mahjL79GoQcdA-- Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:05:35 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: dd-20 vs. DL4 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000001c81808$ce5c9c80$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <174266.67654.qm@web38614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 07:05:36 +0000 (UTC) Yes,the U2 simple tipical delay opr david gilmour,you know usually setup with the tempo funcion for ex. a 3/4 note and tapping on the downbeat of a 4/4 pattern,groove or whatever,really easy to get with a DD-20,but not so accurate with the DL4.I tried setting the delay time rotating knob of the DL4 to the 3/4 note (at around 1.00 o´clock) and saved it a s a patch but when i tap it doesnt do it even with the rhythmic delay model.With the DD-20 it functions with every model! anyway i dont use it like that much but this is how i usually test the tap tempo delay of a unit,by playing run like hell from the floyd;-) cheers Luis > What do you mean by "simple the edge type delay > tempo" - is this a reference > to "The Edge" of U2 (who, judging from the contentx, > obviously uses very > short rhytmic delays)? You might get better results > (if you do not need the > "creative sound" delays in that application) by > using the rhythmic delay > algorithm and tapping longer intervals. > > I don't use the DL4 for clean delays (because for > that, I have the D2 or the > Eclipse), and never use it "in line" (as opposed to > a send effect) except > for rehearsal room situations. And obviously, when > using the filter delay or > space echo algorithm, I don't look that much for > clear sound. > > Again, what do you mean by "unpredictable"? What I > found to be sometimes > unpredictable (unless you use some precautions) is > how the expression pedal > works when switching between user presets. Apart > from that, it seems quite > deterministic to me... > > Rainer > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 07:44:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 623933BED3; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 07:44:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=5Ss8Kvx4N0vpoFWqTE9ltaU3WsUp0zACEPmFt147P78=; b=LMafqCSWmTUR7hVgNBaRGqJt/YNN8I5nOsKzeVh8cHJryQixGPH1W/IY4RwrT6zhhZXjOFDZi1pyW2mPfa1ak6Oew7sHGl3QApCTjJPX1+t4vRnDhBV74wgXfDVrH8GmCPabCbeZEvrB41rb4aUNa3DXZcG2aN8S5hT34mQdPD0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=OVNMc++XAuMADkgyODKN9UGARxsxChxFjYC6LmgJTM9yZgFlYZLLAwBYIAQ6W1YrWFa8mdq1vRyKJaHGZI3obPUANMV9a2dkLV1al3WIvmdeV4n4erPVN+WTH+VAXxU7D3h1bCaqn33g6F0kjzOIWcoVLoNx8XlOOg0FqiR8zeE= Message-ID: <9e0440a60710270044r68ef47a1ta1fa00d7b1b33ed@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 03:44:24 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K7 Mp3s In-Reply-To: <02ea01c8185d$035b9d60$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9258_21254867.1193471064608" References: <02c301c817de$d00e5d40$4b02a8c0@warren5d67d038> <011701c817e3$0e69d110$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <001401c81853$4c5e2690$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> <02ea01c8185d$035b9d60$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 07:44:27 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_9258_21254867.1193471064608 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Krispen I don't see us up there yet on the review link, am I looking at an old link? Thanks Jim On 10/27/07, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > Here is the official MP3 page. I have been posting them as folks give me > the okay: > > http://www.y2kloopfest.com/mp3.html > > I still have Sunday's files to master, and still waiting for most of > Saturday performers to review their clips. > > Kris > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > er, uh, are these just for players? I can't see the tunes. I know that y= a > didn,t mean ta post that to the general list but now that the cats out of > the bag may I beg a listen? > a thousand apologies if I'm out of line. > peace > jeff > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Krispen Hartung > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Friday, October 26, 2007 11:15 AM > *Subject:* Re: Y2K7 Mp3s > > > Ahhh...I did not mean to send this to LD. Sorry. > > Kris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > Thanks, Kris. I now have a great soundtrack for the day. Listening to > Per's lovely work right now. It is just *so* cool. Ahhhhh... Like a dip i= n > a fresh mountain stream. > > > > I think "document" is a good description for the sound =96 having been at= a > couple of the LoopFests including Y2K6 at the same location, this brings = me > right into the experience, which is so great. So I dig the "room tone" = =96 > it's certainly good enough (so far) to make for an exciting and uplifting > experience. It might even be more involving than a more perfect recording= , > at least for some. > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] > *Sent:* Friday, October 26, 2007 10:06 AM > > *Subject:* Y2K7 Mp3s > > > > Hello all, > > > > I have uploaded the first batch of MP3s to my server. Please reveiw your > clips. If you are fine with them, let me know and I'll post them on the > website. Also, don't forget to send me your favorite picture taken by Mar= k. > > > > A few notes. Last year I recorded directly from the board and the > recordings sounded much more studio like and higher quality. This year, a= s > you saw, I was recording live from two condensor mics. Hence, don't expec= t > perfection on these. On occasion, you can hear audience chatter, things > moving around in the back of the room, etc. But I did the best I could to > cut out dead air space and bring the recordings up to line level so they = are > audible. They are a decent documentation of the event, but not CD worthy,= in > my honest opnion. > > > > http://www.box.net/shared/o1cqrfgf5k > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.11/1093 - Release Date: > 10/25/2007 5:38 PM > > --=20 The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com Associates and friends on the web - Daryl Shawn - http://www.swanwelder.com Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com ------=_Part_9258_21254867.1193471064608 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
    Krispen I don't see us up there yet on the review link, am I looki= ng at an old link?
     
    Thanks
     
    Jim

     
    On 10/27/07, Krispen Hartung <khartung@= cableone.net> wrote:
    Here is the official MP3 page. I have = been posting them as folks give me the okay:
     
     
    I still have Sunday's files to mas= ter, and still waiting for most of Saturday performers to review their clip= s.
     
    Kris
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----

     
    er, uh, are these just for players? I can't see the tunes. I know = that ya didn,t mean ta post that to the general list but now that the cats = out of the bag may I beg a listen?
    a thousand apologies if I'm out of line.
    peace
    jeff
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:15= AM
    Subject: Re: Y2K7 Mp3s

     
    Ahhh...I did not mean to send this to = LD. Sorry.
     
    Kris
     
    ----- Original Message -----

     

    Thanks, Kris. I now have a great so= undtrack for the day. Listening to Per's lovely work right now. It is just = so cool. Ahhhhh... Like a dip= in a fresh mountain stream. 

     

    I think "document" is a good descri= ption for the sound =96 having been at a couple of the LoopFests including = Y2K6 at the same location, this brings me right into the experience, which = is so great. So I dig the "room tone" =96 it's certainly good enough (so fa= r) to make for an exciting and uplifting experience. It might even be more = involving than a more perfect recording, at least for some.

     

    From: Kris= pen Hartung [mailto: khartung@cableone.net]
    = Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007= 10:06 AM

    Subject: Y2K7 Mp3s<= /span>

    Hello all,

    I have uploaded the first batch of MP3s to my server. Please re= veiw your clips. If you are fine with them, let me know and I'll post t= hem on the website. Also, don't forget to send me your favorite picture= taken by Mark.

    A few notes. Last year I recorded directly from the board and t= he recordings sounded much more studio like and higher quality. This year, = as you saw, I was recording live from two condensor mics. Hence, don't = expect perfection on these.  On occasion, you can hear audience chatte= r, things moving around in the back of the room, etc. But I did the best I = could to cut out dead air space and bring the recordings up to line level s= o they are audible. They are a decent documentation of the event, but not C= D worthy, in my honest opnion.


    --
    The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin&nb= sp; - http://www.jimgoodinmu= sic.com
    MySpace (solo) - http= ://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
    Chinapainting -
    http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
    Chi= napainting on My Space -
    http://www.my= space.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
    The Jim Goodin label and home for 7= other creative souls - http://= www.woodandwiremusic.com
    Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is publi= shed by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. -=20 http://www.melbay.com

    Associat= es and friends on the web -
    Daryl Shawn -
    http://www.swanwelder.com
    Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com
    John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com
    Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net
    Mic= hael Manring -=20 http://www.manthing.com
    Will Ack= erman - http://www.williamackerm= an.com
    New Land Music - http= ://www.newlandmusic.com =20 ------=_Part_9258_21254867.1193471064608-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 08:12:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 828B93BEE1; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:12:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 04:13:45 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to The AM/FM Show To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <4722F339.8050203@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) Resent-Message-ID: <9B21lB.A.LRG.oLvIHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:12:24 +0000 (UTC) THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, October 27 at 6:00 am (EDT / GMT-4) less than two hours from now. I will continue the special on E-dition Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. I will continue with issue 15 out of 16 so this special is drawing to a close soon. What's next? ;-) Tune in to WMUH Allentown at 91.7 FM, broadcasting from the campus of Muhlenberg College. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. WMUH's web site is http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 12:09:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D86293BECF; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:09:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=VOwEladI1dMvXBsiN6QcPqfzNxh4CbMLDWrIa0GCnTc=; b=bhYd2islINwPGm7buJCQz+v5Ypg+29tySF4MsqaO07ZXh2ZSWV4rcLNLM+hldywDzBgOw9RxIIVNyCcMP5PFVD0BFivZ9wNtDW5qt8PF1kCVE4e+pHSLVVY4JYoF1q/sJcH3+RI0pW8B5hHfw9T1sAn/d1iKHyeEXVwBHi3AYn8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=IZE6Kszv9q9jw8gIsV44vPY0pb++uAQ7skD9lqV7KjAVOaMoXvq6jDlA0e04x/cPd0wLnhDegQxJTntg2vgiC4iCjxPRn0DfNRKwmghtAPbq8tXGwdnwkgrGqYuM+9HhIhG66T3Aga1LIlQC+QpKh75dbdqxQneTuyyadAbdXSo= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:09:02 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Stick and 2880 In-Reply-To: <20071026182600.CFE033BECA@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10402_30247206.1193486942054" References: <20071022225557.22F433BF40@arsenic.violacea.com> <20071026182600.CFE033BECA@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:09:04 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_10402_30247206.1193486942054 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Wow murkie! Remember you from the stickwire comunity.. Love the tunes... great player! They even seem to be not improvised... Cheers, Raul. 2007/10/26, murkie : > > here's a couple of rough improvised pieces that were done (while > practicing) > using a Stick and a 2880. > > it's just me and the Adrenalinn/Drum machine. oh and the bass loop parts > are done with a JamMan. > it's the stereo out of my rig directly into a minidisc recorder. > > > http://community.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkiestickpracticelooping%201.mp3 > > > http://community.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkiestickpracticelooping%202.mp3 > > hope you like. > > m > http://www.TwistedAppleRecords.com > > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_10402_30247206.1193486942054 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Wow murkie!
    Remember you from the stickwire comunity..
    Love the tunes... great player!
    They even seem to be not improvised...

    Cheers,
    Raul.

    2007/10/26, murkie < sinister_footwear@yahoo.com>:
    here's a couple of rough improvised pieces that were done (while practicing)
    using a Stick and a 2880.

    it's just me and the Adrenalinn/Drum machine.  oh and the bass loop parts
    are done with a JamMan.
    it's the stereo out of my rig directly into a minidisc recorder.

    http://community.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkiestickpracticelooping%201.mp3

    http://community.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkiestickpracticelooping%202.mp3

    hope you like.

    m
    http://www.TwistedAppleRecords.com





    --
    The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_10402_30247206.1193486942054-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 12:48:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD78E3BEDE; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 7840 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:48:45 UTC Message-ID: <4722FDB9.8070302@gordius.be> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 10:58:33 +0200 From: GORDIUS info Reply-To: info@gordius.be User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Gordius - shipping price reduction offer References: <118851.52921.qm@web56914.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <118851.52921.qm@web56914.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <5.2.1.1.0.20070925181833.00e3db70@mail.onemodelplace.com> <002d01c7ffe4$252cfc40$6f86f4c0$@com> In-Reply-To: <002d01c7ffe4$252cfc40$6f86f4c0$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:48:45 +0000 (UTC) Hi Qua, hi group, I'd like to come back to this previous message : until today we haven't been actively promoting the Gordius products ourselves, because we were still working on a further firmware upgrade to add more features to the products. This week this firmware upgrade was released, so now I'd like to mention it from my side : Gordius products are ready for shipping - 20% discount offer still valid for the next 2 weeks - a "grouped" shipping to the USA will be organized as soon as there is enough interest, but definitely within 2 weeks from here. Also, I promise I will not post this kind of "advertising" messages on this great forum again - it's just a one-time message concerning this one-time opportunity to get one of those Little Giants at a heavily reduced launching price. Best regards, Xavier http://www.gordius.be Qua Veda wrote: > FYI, Gordius is trying to organize a group buy that would reduce shipping > to the US by about half (could save ~ $75, in addition to the 20% discount > they are offering for pre-orders). > > -Qua > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 13:36:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B45213BECD; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:36:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:37:43 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for October 6, 2007 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <47233F27.4020109@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:36:38 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2007/071027.html The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #119 October 27, 2007. On this show, I played the music of Erik Wøllo who will be in concert tonight at the Gatherings concert series. The Gatherings - http://thegatherings.org Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Free System Moyland Part 1 E-dition #15 (Groove) Projekt] VA [Uwe Reckzeh] Timecode E-dition #15 (Groove) VA [Rogue Element] Mellowtronthoughts E-dition #15 (Groove) VA [François-Pol Tole Ondulée E-dition #15 (Groove) Cronec] Erik Wøllo The Return of the The Polar Drones (Groove) Sun ARC Departed Fracture (DiN) Arcane Route 216 Pulse (none) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Matthew Labarge Snowing In Small Hours (none) Matthew Labarge Nocturne In Small Hours (none) Matthew Labarge I Can't Believe I'm In Small Hours (none) the Only One Salvatori and Breath of Spring When Evening Falls (none) Litchfield Salvatori and Guitar Lament When Evening Falls (none) Litchfield David Davidson Mo Cairenn Celtic Fantasy (Green Hill) Any McKee Practice Is Perfect Art of Motion (Candy Rat) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== David Gilmore Shine On You Crazy Remember That Night (Columbia) Diamond Rick Wakeman Chasing the Devil Retro 02 (President) Taintar Vastatuulen Lintu Vastatuulen Lintu (none) Saga Corkentellis 10,000 Days (InsideOut) Riverside Parasomnia Rapid Eye Movement (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) I return to the AM/FM Show on November 10. On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDs that come with each issue of E-dition electronic music magazine. Bill ====================================================================== Host of the AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EDT (GMT-4:00). Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from "Beyond the Barriers." Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Web Site - http://soundscapes.us/amfm Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml ====================================================================== The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to post playlists or track airplay? The progdj list solves that problem. The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. There is NO SPAM because I keep the spammers out before the members ever see any hint of it. The progdj list is for DJs (obviously!) and band members, record label personnel, promoters, managers, and anyone else interested in seeing what gets played on the air. Need to find who is playing prog on the radio? Go to the progdj list. To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 13:57:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 552BA3BED8; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:57:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 09:58:48 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #552 for October 4, 2007 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <47234418.4020909@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:57:42 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/071025.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #552 October 25, 2007 RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on the Origo Sound label. The Featured CD at Midnight was "The Second Dawn" by Dystopia. I also played the music of Erik Wøllo who will be in concert this Saturday. Details are on the events page. Origo Sound: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#oct Events page: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/events.html PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Erik Wollo Echo of Night Emotional Landscapes (Spotted Peccary) David Helpling and Not a Soul, Not a Treasure (Spotted Peccary) Jon Jenkins Sound Erik Wollo Cadence Emotional Landscapes (Spotted Peccary) Patrick O'Hearn Beneath the Glaciation (none) Celestial Sphere ARC Slipstream Fracture (DiN) John Duval Paleozoic Twilight Hell's Canyon (Hypnos/Binary) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Dystopia Destroyer The Second Dawn (Origo Sound) Dystopia Core Melt The Second Dawn (Origo Sound) Dystopia The Chamber The Second Dawn (Origo Sound) Dystopia Breaking News The Second Dawn (Origo Sound) Dystopia When the Wind Blows The Second Dawn (Origo Sound) Dystopia Technocracy The Second Dawn (Origo Sound) Dystopia The Dice The Second Dawn (Origo Sound) Dystopia Shelters The Second Dawn (Origo Sound) Dystopia Three Seconds The Second Dawn (Origo Sound) Dystopia Sands of Sinai The Second Dawn (Origo Sound) Dystopia Dark Ages The Second Dawn (Origo Sound) Dystopia The Unforseen The Second Dawn (Origo Sound) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Paul Ellis. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Appears to Vanish" on NeuHarmony Records. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site - http://galactictravels.info RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 14:51:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB0703BECC; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=B4vySOm17+7FAerfIKGAWkJsHVbBZIiYj19UsRRS1FI=; b=iN+UNhJzhUiXyhvJi3obP7AQjos0rdiFwBtfzVGr/7JgVLfHVnQ6e2tn8o3nZjtMMD4U3AICs7i1KI2Kq6I8/STSLdcnTg6/Zl/IWq8J7VGpZeKT1hL6ZHX5hzp4zOAIanVUAoqwLjFFk68lODq0fXceNMjpB15kIlcYD+pKSOg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=czg/pnIt69h8bsf1KhRVDo33VKHD3/SNXgshd51S3FXuAjHTRrSzH30T60PYtvPrb5yU6Pj9RwD+RvxQEypDQDiIWlcCtVQUoroJHd4OumliSYt938AhX3DY/KyMb7t6GLUIAjK0QuGa07oFPnGavFR5k6eGB/FdEDkLgSbBBzI= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 15:51:35 +0100 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: video from yesteryear MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: a8b052afcafb5184 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:51:38 +0000 (UTC) Was just clearing out an old hard drive, and came across this, which might be of interest to some here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ab6PhuJDYg Footage from The First (International) Cambridge Festival of Looping, 2003. cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.collective.co.uk/ http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 16:47:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D61B13BED3; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: y2k7 mp3s Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:48:08 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000801c818b9$27ccf8e0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcgYuSdRzDN6DF6KRza9nfwaPf28ww== X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OI/oKf9ABw== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Hi Krispen, regarding the y2k7 mp3s, you said: "A few notes. Last year I recorded directly from the board and the recordings sounded much more studio like and higher quality. This year, as you saw, I was recording live from two condensor mics. Hence, don't expect perfection on these. On occasion, you can hear audience chatter, things moving around in the back of the room, etc. But I did the best I could to cut out dead air space and bring the recordings up to line level so they are audible. They are a decent documentation of the event, but not CD worthy, in my honest opnion." This leads me to ask: 1. I understand that this year (compared to the years before), you implemented a few changes to reduce workload for you. Was changing from FOH to microphone recording one of those (and if so, how did this work out), or what were the reasons for this step (e.g. wanting to experiment with the microphones, wishes from artists,...) ? 2. The way you describe it, there seems to be a clear view that a FOH board recording is by all means superior to a recoring using a stereo mic setup. Did you base that view on your own experience, eperience of other artists or recording engineers or just on concentrated thinking? The reason I ask: While I wholeheartedly agree that for a setup like mine of last year or yours (for yours even more than for mine), a board recording (or even a recording inside of the laptop) is by far superior to a recording done with microphones in the venue, unless documenting audience interaction is by far more important to you than fidelity, this may be totally different for other artists. E.g. for an artist that works a lot with acoustic instruments and doesn't send all of it through the mains (a dummer who only amplifies his bass drum), the microphone recording would be vastly superior. Btw, I've heard good recordings (e.g. Ozric Tentacles - Live at the Middle east 2005-03-17) done just with a pair of condensers and a proper recording device, both of classical and very rock/dance-oriented audio sources. Any thoughts here? Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 16:50:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B34E13BEC7; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:50:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_55ed421b-5fe4-42d9-b5a0-c059248879b7_" X-Originating-IP: [76.14.66.94] From: aaron leese To: Subject: unsibscribe Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:50:41 -0400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <000801c818b9$27ccf8e0$1001a8c0@succubus> References: <000801c818b9$27ccf8e0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2007 16:50:42.0222 (UTC) FILETIME=[82C7FCE0:01C818B9] Resent-Message-ID: <2Qr8mC.A.hJH.kx2IHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 16:50:44 +0000 (UTC) --_55ed421b-5fe4-42d9-b5a0-c059248879b7_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 unsubscribe _________________________________________________________________ Boo!=A0Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! 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    Windows Live Ho= tmail and Microsoft Office Outlook =96 together at last.     Get it now! = --_843895e0-5aa5-4851-9768-b41fcbbe67eb_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 17:00:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B411D3BEE4; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:00:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 13:00:33 -0400 From: Warren Sirota Subject: Anyone else going to this looping event in NJ tonight? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <04a201c818ba$e33e8c50$4b02a8c0@warren5d67d038> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_kJfgZe/w4rI8FAfwG1Xe2Q)" Thread-index: AcgYut43uw8vXenMRq+hbHem/VBqBg== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:00:38 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_kJfgZe/w4rI8FAfwG1Xe2Q) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I saw a posting about this gig on the list a week or two ago: http://thegoatcafe.typepad.com/the_goat_cafe/ It's tonight, and I'm figurin' on going around 7:30. It'd be fun if any of you other NY/NJ-area loopers want to come on by and hang out. I'm planning on getting there about 7:20, give-or-take a few minutes - traffic on a rainy day around here can be pretty unpredictable, as you know. Anyway, come and say hi if you can - this is what I look like. Warren --Boundary_(ID_kJfgZe/w4rI8FAfwG1Xe2Q) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

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    It’s tonight, and I’m figurin’ on going around 7:30. It’d be fun if any of you other NY/NJ-area loopers want to come on by and hang out. I’m planning on getting there about 7:20, give-or-take a few minutes – traffic on a rainy day around here can be pretty unpredictable, as you know. Anyway, come and say hi if you can – this is what I look like.

     

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    --Boundary_(ID_kJfgZe/w4rI8FAfwG1Xe2Q)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 17:39:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C35D3BEE1; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 621599238-mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.161.104 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj0KAN8TI0dPQqFo/2dsb2JhbACCKZw2hxQ Message-ID: <472377D0.6060402@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:39:28 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: video from yesteryear References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_D2HfB.A.-UD.3e3IHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:39:04 +0000 (UTC) marvellous thanks, ..brings it all back andy butler Os wrote: > Was just clearing out an old hard drive, and came across this, which > might be of interest to some here: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ab6PhuJDYg > > Footage from The First (International) Cambridge Festival of Looping, 2003. > > > cheers, > os. > From member@ebay.com Sat Oct 27 17:47:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from automax.com (mail.automax.com [69.20.5.245]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B739F3BEC5; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:47:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User [83.14.162.155] by automax.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-9.21) id A64D10DC; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:33:01 -0500 Reply-To: From: "eBay" Subject: Response to Question about Item Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 19:34:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-Id: <200710271233187.SM03696@User> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 17:51:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A3183BEDA; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 618948087-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.161.104 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj0KANwXI0dPQqFo/2dsb2JhbACCKaNH Message-ID: <47237AB1.4030800@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 18:51:45 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: y2k7 mp3s References: <000801c818b9$27ccf8e0$1001a8c0@succubus> In-Reply-To: <000801c818b9$27ccf8e0$1001a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 17:51:22 +0000 (UTC) wasn't there a King Crimson studio album recorded by setting up a pa and micing in stereo? Is that Rick Walker on squeaky door in the background? ;-) Krispen very kindly gave me a cd of the foh mix after my y2k5 performance...I had fun using Audition to re-create the room sound, estimating the room dimensions and so on. (I don't use artificial reverb live, but like to use the room) The ideal would be a 4-track recording with stereo foh and ambience mics. andy butler Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > Hi Krispen, > > regarding the y2k7 mp3s, you said: > "A few notes. Last year I recorded directly from the board and the > recordings sounded much more studio like and higher quality. > Btw, I've heard good recordings (e.g. Ozric Tentacles - Live at the Middle > east 2005-03-17) done just with a pair of condensers and a proper recording > device, both of classical and very rock/dance-oriented audio sources. > > Any thoughts here? From service@nationwide.co.uk Sat Oct 27 20:00:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 17484 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 20:00:45 UTC Received: from mercury.hmbf.com (mail.hmbf.com [67.90.33.35]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C803BECA; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 20:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([86.107.232.208]) by mercury.hmbf.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:02:42 -0400 Reply-To: From: "Bank Of Nationwide" Subject: It has come to our attention that your Nationwide Online account information needs to be updated Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 15:05:19 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2007 12:02:42.0911 (UTC) FILETIME=[47825EF0:01C81891] To: undisclosed-recipients:; Nationwide Building Society - Improvements To Telephone Self Service
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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Oct 27 20:19:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAB343BECF; Sat, 27 Oct 2007 20:19:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <040b01c818d6$ab9c3bf0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <000801c818b9$27ccf8e0$1001a8c0@succubus> Subject: Re: y2k7 mp3s Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 14:19:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 20:19:27 +0000 (UTC) > This leads me to ask: > > 1. I understand that this year (compared to the years before), you > implemented a few changes to reduce workload for you. Was changing from > FOH > to microphone recording one of those (and if so, how did this work out), > or > what were the reasons for this step (e.g. wanting to experiment with the > microphones, wishes from artists,...) ? Yes, it was a lot easier to record live with two microphones in the back of the room, rather than running two very long stereo cables from each stage board, into an smaller board, and then sub-mixing each one, and with each performance. With the mic setup, I was able to use a more consistent level for all the performances, and walk away from the recorder for long period of time. I couldn't do this with the direct recording system. Levels were too erratic. I did this purely so that I could get away from the recorder and socialize once in a while...which I did, and it was great! :) I guess with the live mics in the back of the room, the air serves as sort of a natural compressor. > 2. The way you describe it, there seems to be a clear view that a FOH > board > recording is by all means superior to a recoring using a stereo mic setup. > Did you base that view on your own experience, eperience of other artists > or > recording engineers or just on concentrated thinking? Based on my own experience, and especially for this type of music where there a lot of folks doing some intricate stereo imaging. The stereo mics just don't capture that well. I just like the sound of the soundboard recordings better, though I admit they don't sound live. Compare all the other recording on the page with my own recording. My recording was direct from max/msp to my hardrive. The dynamic range of the soundboard recordings is much better too. I can hear freqencies on direct recordings that just don't come across clear in live mic recording....despite the fact that the mics claim an appopriate frequency response. The whole proximity effects with mics, just as air acting as a natural compressor, also reduces frequency response. > The reason I ask: While I wholeheartedly agree that for a setup like mine > of > last year or yours (for yours even more than for mine), a board recording > (or even a recording inside of the laptop) is by far superior to a > recording > done with microphones in the venue, unless documenting audience > interaction > is by far more important to you than fidelity, this may be totally > different > for other artists. E.g. for an artist that works a lot with acoustic > instruments and doesn't send all of it through the mains (a dummer who > only > amplifies his bass drum), the microphone recording would be vastly > superior. Totally agreed. 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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 02:14:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF1BC3BECA; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 02:14:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hLVndRFCAAAA:8 a=wq3WcZKVf9rYDRpRtvYA:9 a=9Ozo_6nqqAFPQx_j9PbUKfrV0GYA:4 a=dKFSZAqjruQA:10 a=KP-UbFFsnrRivI7uHQgA:9 a=j3IvvmPw3Ur-Few2fbMA:7 a=vPhegbeWHZAy-B8ojzYKQzElLWoA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.mail=echohead@embarqmail.com; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=echohead@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp07.embarq.synacor.com: 71.48.241.17 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of embarqmail.com) Message-ID: <001901c81908$38b025c0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: Subject: Y2K7 and sonic doodles Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 22:14:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C818E6.B11B4C00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 02:14:07 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C818E6.B11B4C00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable wow, I really am enjoying the sounds from the show. I hope to get to go = to one someday. I was waylaid with back troubles this week and inbetween doctors and = pain I found some=20 time to jam a bit, I am learning the ins and outs of my dl4 into a dd20, = lotta fun.Here are=20 some links for anyone who wants to take a listen to some sonic doodling. http://www.thisphase.org/tunes/Prelude.mp3 http://www.thisphase.org/tunes/Return_of_Schizosphere.mp3 http://www.thisphase.org/tunes/Admirable_Restraint.mp3 http://www.thisphase.org/tunes/nightscape.mp3 Jeff http://thisphase.org/lips.html ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C818E6.B11B4C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    wow, I really am enjoying the sounds = from the show.=20 I hope to get to go to one someday.
    I was waylaid with back troubles this = week and=20 inbetween doctors and pain I found some
    time to jam a bit, I am learning the = ins and outs=20 of my dl4 into a dd20, lotta fun.Here are
    some links for anyone who wants to take = a listen to=20 some sonic doodling.
     
    http://www.thisphase.= org/tunes/Prelude.mp3
     
    http:/= /www.thisphase.org/tunes/Return_of_Schizosphere.mp3
     
    http://ww= w.thisphase.org/tunes/Admirable_Restraint.mp3
     
    http://www.thispha= se.org/tunes/nightscape.mp3
     
    Jeff
    http://thisphase.org/lips.html
    ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C818E6.B11B4C00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 10:06:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A1CB3BEB8; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: AW: y2k7 mp3s Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 11:06:36 +0100 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000701c8194a$39b840f0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcgYwfxCMBy4/+5KS9GbIMmQ3p83vgAh7U2w In-Reply-To: <47237AB1.4030800@tiscali.co.uk> X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OId3OoP/Go4= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:06:07 +0000 (UTC) > wasn't there a King Crimson studio album recorded by setting > up a pa and micing in stereo? I don't know about that, but there is a King Crimson live album "B'Boom" which is the official version of a bootleg recorded from the FOH board. The talkmaster Fripp goes on to explain why this isn't the best possible result for live recording. > The ideal would be a 4-track recording with stereo foh and > ambience mics. Now, to minimize effor for Krispen here: why don't those people who really need the aforementioned 4-track setup do a recording of the signal they send to FOH? Especially for laptop users, this is accomplished extremely easy (and even comes without yet another pair of steps through converters). Last year, I did record (most of) my performances inside of the laptop, so I actually would have preferred Krispen's microphone setup over the FOH recording he did last year. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 10:22:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EC473BECF; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:22:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=XgGgIkk3rmWyuPja0GUoD2Ip4pohX2uH2uGGtuSgXYglJCL2NOXH9nr0FDpwO+tL4IysUsCjywTYdTXlXgooUhSZbi8GuHorE5l8nO3ATYiAqEgDeYfKLsOYRDXO+bD3BS/ZQ+az38jAN92CHnBRLhtjBeAKCtnymOc6hjEGIVI=; X-YMail-OSG: 41wQXyMVM1mtE4205JGAgAqxtCyx5ClZbZu2I5Xy0bamFSiTCnEbhbsEoGHiMKIRyjbRYj.EINwWDHV0O8zSWDIK.Q-- Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 03:22:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Fwd: Re: Gordius - shipping price reduction offer To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <178876.99811.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:22:16 +0000 (UTC) great news! but come on all u Gordius users we need a review of this product soon!! Cheers Luis > > > --- GORDIUS info wrote: > > > Hi Qua, hi group, > > > > I'd like to come back to this previous message : > > until today we haven't been actively promoting the > > Gordius products > > ourselves, because we were still working on a > > further firmware upgrade > > to add more features to the products. > > This week this firmware upgrade was released, so > now > > I'd like to mention > > it from my side : Gordius products are ready for > > shipping - 20% discount > > offer still valid for the next 2 weeks - a > "grouped" > > shipping to the USA > > will be organized as soon as there is enough > > interest, but definitely > > within 2 weeks from here. > > Also, I promise I will not post this kind of > > "advertising" messages on > > this great forum again - it's just a one-time > > message concerning this > > one-time opportunity to get one of those Little > > Giants at a heavily > > reduced launching price. > > > > Best regards, > > Xavier > > http://www.gordius.be > > > > > > Qua Veda wrote: > > > FYI, Gordius is trying to organize a group buy > > that would reduce shipping > > > to the US by about half (could save ~ $75, in > > addition to the 20% discount > > > they are offering for pre-orders). > > > > > > -Qua > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 10:31:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 44B7B3BED3; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:31:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=hTVOsFLWXXeMORNHg2cAyGfYK28OQAqgxf/EiSpySiJLTViCN/ryEUmSrhCk8B8a/10AJzq3nLkOhmzxaHzG9eCdRB+w7SabhSEGO5D7qAsgVTl9jIG32LXNp7XZtiMRshobZ3RNxzqVd8vF12kPJGKtn50iYrhIY7fV5GBkyy0=; X-YMail-OSG: EAJQ1NgVM1nsVO4yE3pZQRUHargWYPurdB8MhUDNM8hYrFcozpGxawFTCH7M2EXRIMGfbuEgJBMdRDbvQLM_ECuA4C1KuvbgCfdgAWc6WcmsQuZznjc- Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 03:31:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: RE: AW: dd-20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <200710261833.l9QIXQx7017512@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <934461.89056.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:31:54 +0000 (UTC) strange ive never had that problem... --- "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" wrote: > I've only used my dd-20 very briefly so far, but > here's a stupid question; when I tried the tap tempo > I could here a tap noise (imagine that). When I go > to record, will that be audible? > > david moore > transient alert > 86 mxs/mxmta > 480-2061/5378 > > -----Original Message----- > From: L.A. Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 8:26 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: AW: dd-20 > > This is absolutely true Rainer, on the other hand i > find the DD-20´s tap tempo function a lot more > accurate than the DL4s,i can´t even set a simple the > edge type delay tempo with the DL4s, it doesnt sound > > as clear and its quite unpredictable,or am i doing > something wrong? > cheers > Luis > > > > > > > you switch to a more powerful looper. In that > realm, > > the DL4 might be > > slightly superior because its delay models are > > (imho) more useable than > > those of the DD20 for "interesting delay sounds". > > Perhaps just go to a music > > store, try both, try also to connect them in > series, > > and see what you like > > better - most probably you'll end up getting both. > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 10:32:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F50B3BED8; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:32:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=rlgEkUfG4B745gt6FKpAF0TkBCCDOaYtGq+P26VfT9aapSd7LDA5c+vw38iqCtoLdyvnrcyCNUgKpLuNsfJN8p61RFysdRqwzAREdASm6t9N11TcWXUs1udcP3AyjmucUGcLCAhBppKVajiHxyPYnjuABGV2GiE6C6IZD4eWdCM=; X-YMail-OSG: QHwJEGoVM1mG3L3WzSa3SjmNBIMfzPC22vQrEmRLga4mMYRcRW9ls_0VAbujWsHxFfQKOBUnQTrJMOyg8vSHt1zp1C4PFhkC6XenXBvg6bMLYp0zY.E- Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 03:32:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Stick and 2880 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <951846.2569.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <1vm7vC.A.EIH.IVGJHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:32:40 +0000 (UTC) very nice stuff man! cheers Luis --- Raul Bonell wrote: > Wow murkie! > Remember you from the stickwire comunity.. > Love the tunes... great player! > They even seem to be not improvised... > > Cheers, > Raul. > > 2007/10/26, murkie : > > > > here's a couple of rough improvised pieces that > were done (while > > practicing) > > using a Stick and a 2880. > > > > it's just me and the Adrenalinn/Drum machine. oh > and the bass loop parts > > are done with a JamMan. > > it's the stereo out of my rig directly into a > minidisc recorder. > > > > > > > http://community.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkiestickpracticelooping%201.mp3 > > > > > > > http://community.middlebury.edu/~mchriste/murkiestickpracticelooping%202.mp3 > > > > hope you like. > > > > m > > http://www.TwistedAppleRecords.com > > > > > > > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: > http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: > http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 10:40:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DAA53BEE0; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:40:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=n2cbIM5QhiDknjh0h7YgUrZ4FIXYvasX17Emgmm844hTIAOB9QjVW0sFsJi1o2xfe5rLrHhBU341Heio7SCpKDk4rk1flkkWNbKaNFbCwoytPBfDS8eS961fAYK8e1+TXvHYU8sL/wZc/lSXdd2bscM8Mea4MbzrbW4j5VrQw14=; X-YMail-OSG: GLxcoqAVM1m_nbf0Y.dl6oxJSYQmbdp93Eo5CO0ifF0NuPXHX7YGEPmkcfP7lVNI4A-- Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 03:40:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Kevin's theramin performance - amazing To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20071024152806.zp79r47e04o8w4k0@69.89.21.76> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <333470.63385.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:40:05 +0000 (UTC) I wonder if you could get theremin sounds like with the new vg-99 i just saw the video it looks exciting,specially being able to change pitch and doing sound maipulation with hand movement anybody try it yet? cheers Luis --- kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > Quoting Qua Veda : > > > Hi Kevin, > > Your theramin performance was amazing. Thick rich > tones, and beautiful > > compositions! > > A real highlight for me at y2k7 > > > > -Qua > > > Qua, Jim, and to all, > > Thank you very much for your kind comments about my > looped theremin > set. The outpouring of support is much-appreciated > and I feel > motivated to create more looped music. > > I learned much from watching and listening to > everyone (I heard nearly > all of the sets). Your music, conversation, and > encouragement means a > lot to me. I am sure that everyone at the festival > left with ideas, > energy, and motivation to create more amazing music! > I'm pleased to > be a part of the looping community. > > Sincerely, > > Kevin > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 10:47:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96B503BEE1; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:47:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 621730732-mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.197.255 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah4FAEYFJEdPQsX//2dsb2JhbACCKY4flAw Message-ID: <472468DE.6090402@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:47:58 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: AW: y2k7 mp3s References: <000701c8194a$39b840f0$1001a8c0@succubus> In-Reply-To: <000701c8194a$39b840f0$1001a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:47:30 +0000 (UTC) >> The ideal would be a 4-track recording with stereo foh and >> ambience mics. > > Now, to minimize effor for Krispen here: why don't those people who really > need the aforementioned 4-track setup do a recording of the signal they send > to FOH? > Rainer but that wouldn't give a 4-track recording, just 2 unsynced stereo versions. Might work if the ambience mic was pointed away from the sound source. ..but it's not practical to accurately resync digital recordings. > Especially for laptop users, ...um ;-) actually, I was really pleased just to have the foh that Krispen did. (and would have been happy with a miced version). andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 10:50:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86F753BEE8; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:50:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 619081731-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.197.255 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ah4FAOsGJEdPQsX//2dsb2JhbACCKaIu Message-ID: <472469A8.7060908@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:51:20 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Gordius - shipping price reduction offer References: <178876.99811.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <178876.99811.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:50:52 +0000 (UTC) patience there's a little delay in the latest firmware some features: 1) send sysex 2) program a delay within a string of midi commands ...but don't forget the 20% discount soon ends andy L.A. Angulo wrote: > great news! > but come on all u Gordius users we need a review of > this product soon!! > Cheers > Luis > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 10:57:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 624773BEEA; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:57:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 403 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:57:56 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=cXLL42BTMrifntJFGNEvicUtksG9BrdLk+R4TVruvPA=; b=hJ78x57TkBQmUuAfHt5XxmuSBSPR1Y+pJmFaGihAQrHH4rCjRcAd3kU9CKDGsN21bPtelmWKmH752jLCqhaSSkV6Jg0f15fcNrkp7eVJzCv8tY9Eu/NkpFf8/TqnUQzq3Exw6SfyvKuczyAY2x2k1bqDmG7HJpTvblcdtRf9XGI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=mTClLfOWmkoohHnEuu5h9dui/5OJeTs3DAVG2txXZKTpkkos0HeApjV1LCxft6srNuLH2jpsgAZg2ncvVy0J8aLHtdFqCWadHvrTCaUi82wep2sgi9KbXHl2CAd/oBlWQ+tVu19LqXZjtiITf2ysB9iQrmqX2ttc73MiIacNzqI= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:51:11 +0000 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, noman@yahoogroups.com Subject: gig spam: Improvizone, Tuesday October 30th, London MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: a9f23f31d14ffade Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:57:57 +0000 (UTC) http://www.improvizone.com/post.php?id=95 http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband http://www.lampimedia.com/ Tuesday 30 October 2007 at The Plough, 173 Wood Street, Walthamstow, E17 3NU. Wood Street (rail), 230 bus. Free admission. Playing starts 8.00pm and finishes around 10.30pm. The players at this gig will be Andrew Booker (electronic drums) Michael Bearpark (guitar) Os (keyboard/laptop) Jim Lampi (Chapman Stick) cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.collective.co.uk/ http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 12:59:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 867203BED3; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=AyfU+Uqqk6iIfZgZu/EDNgBvtg0HHEUl7PnvT/A9Qv4=; b=HtJvrFcsCYkX6VasMDkBgWo3gR5BAzSx9wKRWS6p5xDUNzMteBDo3HkJIMjyaPz4F40kJYsg+23FHvTcdiOxjPoteT/iBqddnrx42Cx/rB6+gRymHI6itgZjj3qZw3B5n5Td6yAEcopNZn3MgIDVknQQS7M1MqerYJMKC1ePJI4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Sxhu1YNgPKSFXrbwddXKYK0L1ZozCEJX2/wBRPTVx8L9X/c6eXhcOS5AAPtTI1e8c+AzK86f+/v8+BANXsWbU/DQd/Ky5rQSD00IE2R3lV/IJS0JQIOly2MZhqbQGY+AwUjr04O4AO4Xzv9I5z6TG6QolGBZ7wiHI6lPBFgHmuA= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:59:08 +0100 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: gig spam: Improvizone, Tuesday October 30th, London In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12525_21666014.1193576348679" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75779 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:59:11 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_12525_21666014.1193576348679 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Pitty... what a chance to meet Jim again ... It is an improv band or you are rehearsing your pieces regularly, Os? R. 2007/10/28, Os : > > http://www.improvizone.com/post.php?id=95 > http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband > http://www.lampimedia.com/ > > Tuesday 30 October 2007 at The Plough, 173 Wood Street, Walthamstow, > E17 3NU. Wood Street (rail), 230 bus. Free admission. Playing starts > 8.00pm and finishes around 10.30pm. The players at this gig will be > > Andrew Booker (electronic drums) > Michael Bearpark (guitar) > Os (keyboard/laptop) > Jim Lampi (Chapman Stick) > > > > cheers, > os. > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://www.collective.co.uk/ > http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_12525_21666014.1193576348679 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Pitty... what a chance to meet Jim again ...
    It is an improv band or you are rehearsing your
    pieces regularly, Os?

    R.

    2007/10/28, Os < os@collective.co.uk>:
    http://www.improvizone.com/post.php?id=95
    http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband
    http://www.lampimedia.com/

    Tuesday 30 October 2007 at The Plough, 173 Wood Street, Walthamstow,
    E17 3NU. Wood Street (rail), 230 bus. Free admission. Playing starts
    8.00pm and finishes around 10.30pm. The players at this gig will be

    Andrew Booker (electronic drums)
    Michael Bearpark (guitar)
    Os (keyboard/laptop)
    Jim Lampi (Chapman Stick)



    cheers,
    os.

    --
    os@collective.co.uk
    http://www.collective.co.uk/
    http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband




    --
    The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_12525_21666014.1193576348679-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 13:02:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A4C83BECC; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:02:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 101059 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:02:56 UTC Message-ID: <4724887B.3010406@gordius.be> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:02:51 +0100 From: GORDIUS info Reply-To: info@gordius.be User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Gordius - shipping price reduction offer References: <178876.99811.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <178876.99811.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75780 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:02:56 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, for your information : a yahoo group was created by one of the first Gordius users, this will be a good place to discuss the Gordius products and to ask for user experiences http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/GORDIUS/ L.A. Angulo wrote: > come on all u Gordius users we need a review of > this product soon!! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 13:33:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3523D3BECD; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: y2k7 mp3s Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:34:10 +0100 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000f01c81967$38fd0110$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcgY1qy6lAOibTYhTmag/Uot+Hmw/QAjfU1g In-Reply-To: <040b01c818d6$ab9c3bf0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OId3OoP/Go4= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75781 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:33:43 +0000 (UTC) [miked recording at y2k7 vs directly from board at y2k5/6] > Yes, it was a lot easier to record live with two microphones > in the back of the room, rather than running two very long > stereo cables from each stage board, into an smaller board, > and then sub-mixing each one, and with each performance. I understand, so this had in part to do with the extraordinary situation that the main festival uses two PAs? > With the mic setup, I was able to use a more consistent level > for all the performances, and walk away from the recorder for > long period of time. I couldn't do this with the direct > recording system. Levels were too erratic. So using a) a FOH engineer who would give you more or less consistent levels on a subgroup and/or b) using a limiter/compressor/normalizer/whatever in you signal chain would help? > Based on my own experience, and especially for this type of > music where there a lot of folks doing some intricate stereo > imaging. The stereo mics just don't capture that well. Have you tried a) placing the microphones more to the front (e.g. stage lid) (for a X/Y setup) and b) working with M/S signals in postprocessing to increase the S part? > The dynamic range of the soundboard recordings is much better > too. I can hear freqencies on direct recordings that just > don't come across clear in live mic recording....despite the > fact that the mics claim an appopriate frequency response. This may also have to do with PA and room properties. > The whole proximity effects with mics, just as air acting as > a natural compressor, also reduces frequency response. In the frequency range that matters most, microphones used for such applications (recording a room instead of close-miking) are optimized in their frequency response to somehow battle the proximity effect. However, below, say, 50Hz, you're at a loss. Solution: use A/B miking with omnis. Summarizing: I believe that the negative effects of the musician out->FOH board->PA->room->recording microphones->recorder signal chain as opposed to your directly from laptop to harddisk mostly happen in the PA->room and to some extent also in the microphone placement part. My experience shows that for recording small acoustic ensembles, a setup with a small-diaphragm condenser pair as X/Y or ORTF direct to recorder works outstandingly in capturing what the audience hears. This is different when recording amplified sources - for that, you'd normally want a combination of direct, FOH sum and room mikes. Finally, experimenting with microphone placement can also change a lot (for the better or for the worse). Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 13:46:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C4443BECF; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:46:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=emVRtKGY7qQQMWhp80RJ+6OZUL2kBdISrJIzgJGlhZo=; b=HRSH9Il2jsOZepnozUsGfVO/e+CWchElBKDW4C0Sm3MRm/RU+aGmRkcOasGoDWSGf0R36qJb/nClR2HyRSnR484sCVWvaRAmVn4yZ58jNAfhEbZrA8LndYj5vs5nzkVsAl8YFxOPPG98hh6XM9YaQizybAB5YQO9u7O+NkQXmqw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=M0M26a6WBxfUuksqePyxmXQelMHailrDpihr34b9bgEAxYbMwQdNDTdRTo7syPdnRWryURrm6xc8yekP03/UfJCmCtXJFhZ4Bny9/8lSoEJUTy19U6RUveZMOoNxecMj+kqeKGIi1cNlLNMfadEBrd1Yv9GUNVO2+yIQh8/Ye3o= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:45:59 +0000 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: gig spam: Improvizone, Tuesday October 30th, London In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3a3b426c8aeebff6 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:46:03 +0000 (UTC) It's all improv. cheers, os. On 28/10/2007, Raul Bonell wrote: > Pitty... what a chance to meet Jim again ... > It is an improv band or you are rehearsing your > pieces regularly, Os? > > R. > > 2007/10/28, Os < os@collective.co.uk>: > > http://www.improvizone.com/post.php?id=95 > > > http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband > > http://www.lampimedia.com/ > > > > Tuesday 30 October 2007 at The Plough, 173 Wood Street, Walthamstow, > > E17 3NU. Wood Street (rail), 230 bus. Free admission. Playing starts > > 8.00pm and finishes around 10.30pm. The players at this gig will be > > > > Andrew Booker (electronic drums) > > Michael Bearpark (guitar) > > Os (keyboard/laptop) > > Jim Lampi (Chapman Stick) > > > > > > > > cheers, > > os. > > > > -- > > os@collective.co.uk > > http://www.collective.co.uk/ > > http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband > > > > > > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: > http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: > http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.collective.co.uk/ http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 14:22:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 291553BED6; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Violindave@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 10:21:50 EDT Subject: Re: Gordius To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1193581310" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 100 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:22:02 +0000 (UTC) -------------------------------1193581310 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Could someone please explain the stompbox function of the Little Giant, something I'm not getting. thanks Dave ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com -------------------------------1193581310 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 19:29:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 387CA3BEDD; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:29:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <05a701c81998$e3b14c70$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <000f01c81967$38fd0110$1001a8c0@succubus> Subject: Re: y2k7 mp3s Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:29:37 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <-mclGD.A.WsG.oMOJHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:29:45 +0000 (UTC) > [miked recording at y2k7 vs directly from board at y2k5/6] > I understand, so this had in part to do with the extraordinary situation > that the main festival uses two PAs? That does complicates, and not just for me, but for the sound guy. I've asked Rick to re-consider getting a snake and a main board at the back of the room for next year. It would be a few hundred dollars, but well worth it! For the last two Boise Experimental Music Festivals, I did this...one giant snake, one sound guy who also recorded, and a stage helper so the sound guy doesn't have to make an ass of himself by running back and forth between the main board the the stage while people are performing, to troubleshoot, etc. Rick if you are reading this, I highly recommend doing this next year...of whoever you decide to have run Y2K8 for you. >> With the mic setup, I was able to use a more consistent level >> for all the performances, and walk away from the recorder for >> long period of time. I couldn't do this with the direct >> recording system. Levels were too erratic. > > So using a) a FOH engineer who would give you more or less consistent > levels > on a subgroup and/or b) using a limiter/compressor/normalizer/whatever in > you signal chain would help? I think so...I've never had a chance to get a compressor/limiter in there, but that is a stellar idea for next year. >> Based on my own experience, and especially for this type of >> music where there a lot of folks doing some intricate stereo >> imaging. The stereo mics just don't capture that well. > > Have you tried a) placing the microphones more to the front (e.g. stage > lid) > (for a X/Y setup) and b) working with M/S signals in postprocessing to > increase the S part? That would be highly problematic given the Y2K7 venue, because the space is too small, and people are running back and forth. However, if I could suspect mics from the ceiling, that might work. >> The dynamic range of the soundboard recordings is much better >> too. I can hear freqencies on direct recordings that just >> don't come across clear in live mic recording....despite the >> fact that the mics claim an appopriate frequency response. > > This may also have to do with PA and room properties. Agreed. Many factors at play. Next year, my ideal situation would be a snake to the back of the room with a main board and a sound guy. Then, I would have stereo direct lines running from the board into my digital recorder, and then two stereo condensor mics suspected from the ceiling close to the stage running back into a separate digital recorder. That way I would have two separate takes, and could mix them if anyone wants a live feel added to the direct, or visa versa. Or, taking more of a risk, I could run both the direct lines and the mics into a sub-mixer and record the mix to one digital recorder...but that leaves less room for editing out bad stuff from the mics. Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 19:41:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E240A3BEE0; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:41:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <05b401c8199a$7b41ffc0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <000f01c81967$38fd0110$1001a8c0@succubus> Subject: Re: y2k7 mp3s Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 13:41:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:41:08 +0000 (UTC) Here is an experiment: Listen to both of these recordings of Henry Kaiser at Y2K7, or just the first minute of each file to get a flavor of the sound. http://www.box.net/shared/8bqpziuucu http://www.box.net/shared/eab932crud Can anyone here any differences in the two files? If so, what? Which one do you prefer? Another experiment: These two files of are of me and Lucio Menegon. One is direct from the board, the other is just from his Eidorol recorder. http://www.box.net/shared/static/4hbusvh7cd.mp3 (MP3) - Soundboard Version http://www.box.net/shared/static/kiq0gf9key.mp3 (MP3) - Live mic version Any preference? Notice how the mic version in no way captures the major low end frequency of my guitar part (using pitch shifter and string tuned down to very low...it's probably in the 10-20k range. I don't think I've experienced a mic that could capture this in the same way as the driect recording. Maybe a $1000 + grade mic? Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 19:44:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B41153BEE2; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on smtp.atwdsl.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 required=6.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.1.8 Message-ID: <4724EA3E.70504@unguitar.com> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:59:58 +0100 From: Luca Formentini User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Gordius Midi Pedal - first impressions References: <101220071507.20016.470F8DBB000A0A3500004E302216549976020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> <470FDC98.1010404@unguitar.com> <470FEB68.5010508@post.cybercity.dk> In-Reply-To: <470FEB68.5010508@post.cybercity.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 19:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I am receiving some mails asking me to send some comments about the footcontroller from Gordius, knowing that I have received one a few weeks ago. I am replying here on LD so that it maybe can be of some use for more of you. 1st: I payed in full for my Gordius controller - so don't be afraid my words might be deviating from the real experience, plus I would never send bad informations on any list, imagine on the one I am partecipating since so many years ;-) The project is smart because it is putting together so many things that have never been available all together in the same footcontroller, but for you to check about it you just need to download the manual and the new editor, so let's go to having it under your feet: -switches: they are silent. They are not as the Edp ones and they are a type I have never seen before in musical instruments. When I say they are silent I mean I can use them when recording in a silent and desert big church together with acoustic instruments and microphones everywhere. -spacing between buttons: I don't have my Edps anymore so I can't check how distant were the switches of the footcontroller, anyway I feel very comfortable with them. Consider that, when compared to other looper-friendly pedals I own like the Pmc 10 and the Midiwizard, the fact that with the Gordus you have buttons instead of bigger print switches is allowing me not to play bare feet anymore. -switches orientation - the first and second row: Before receiving my unit I was afraid it could be a problem but I have found it isn't. There is no risk to push the upper switch and the other one, especially if you are standing ( I play almost all time sitting). -editor: very good work indeed. Not just because the guy managed to put in all the ideas I was dreaming for but also because it seems to be very reliable and practical. I would like it to be a little simpler but that is a thing that crashes against the versatility I am asking for and that I need. -the company: Xavier has been very kind, more than you would usually expect from a supplier. This is because he maybe doesn't do what he does for profit but for passion ( Jeff ? you have infected another one !), he is very responsive to all suggestions and shows a clean and very open mind ( VERY unusal thing from most producers). He is clearly well documented about Midi, the other controllers available and electronics. What would I change of it ? -The size: it is 2 cm wider than the size allowed to be brought in cabin. What would I add to it ? -Mains or Usb power. I am happy to have bought it. This is all. My best, Luca www.unguitar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 20:08:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24FA23BED3; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:08:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: y2k7 mp3s Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:09:10 +0100 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000301c8199e$677b4c40$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: <05b401c8199a$7b41ffc0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Thread-Index: AcgZmnzUIRkXFh0jTjW6wb4IETZ43wAAnD4Q X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OIREoc3wmQ== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:08:43 +0000 (UTC) > Listen to both of these recordings of Henry Kaiser at Y2K7, > or just the first minute of each file to get a flavor of the sound. > http://www.box.net/shared/8bqpziuucu > http://www.box.net/shared/eab932crud > > Can anyone here any differences in the two files? If so, > what? Which one do you prefer? Are these the two recordings which you also posted on the y2kloopfest website? If so: The first thing that shows is for the second file (from no on called "2") that it sounds horrible when listening to it in mono. Yes, a phase correlation meter shows us there's a lot of anti-phase stuff going on. 2 also has by far more prominent bottom end. 1 has these ugly stuff in the 2kHz region happening. Both have a sharp decline 'round 13kHz. (This is something I didn't hear, just see). I don't like either one ;) > Any preference? Notice how the mic version in no way captures > the major low end frequency of my guitar part (using pitch > shifter and string tuned down to very low...it's probably in > the 10-20k range. I don't think I've experienced a mic that > could capture this in the same way as the driect recording. > Maybe a $1000 + grade mic? I guess you mean 10-20 range? You can look for relatively cheap small-diaphragm condenser omnis or PZM omnis (e.g. the $50 apiece Behringer ECM8000 are specified down to 15Hz). What you will have a hard time getting for below $1000 is a PA which properly reproduces 15Hz. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 20:31:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A61103BED8; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:31:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <05c601c819a1$8599b010$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <000301c8199e$677b4c40$1001a8c0@succubus> Subject: Re: y2k7 mp3s Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:31:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 20:31:32 +0000 (UTC) > > Are these the two recordings which you also posted on the y2kloopfest > website? If so: Yes. Let's let a few other folks respond, and I'll reveal the secret between the two. Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 21:10:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 497F73BECD; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:10:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <05c601c819a1$8599b010$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <000301c8199e$677b4c40$1001a8c0@succubus> <05c601c819a1$8599b010$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <4abe8f62ed5c3612270bd11d9a0453d5@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: y2k7 mp3s Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:10:06 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:10:13 +0000 (UTC) Krispen To my ears #1 seems to be "cleaner" and more like the concert experience (but maybe just a little duller). Track #2 seems to have more warmth, presence and overall "punch" (but it seems a tad bit overdriven too). It would be interesting to know what the difference was (recording level?, EQ?, mic placement?, stereo imaging/paning?post- recording normalization?). Cheers, Ted On Oct 28, 2007, at 1:31 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: >> >> Are these the two recordings which you also posted on the y2kloopfest >> website? If so: > > Yes. > > Let's let a few other folks respond, and I'll reveal the secret > between the two. > > Kris > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 21:17:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 198FC3BEDE; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:17:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:08:52 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels on MySpace To: Loopers Delight Mailing List , Daniel Pipitone , Jeff Kowal Message-id: <47250874.4080402@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:17:19 +0000 (UTC) Greetings, Galactic Travels now has a MySpace account. I'd be pleased if you would request friendship. http://myspace.com/galactictravels The account is brand-spankin'-new as of five minutes ago so don't expect anything fancy, yet. Cheers, Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 21:21:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 499623BED6; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:21:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: <000301c8199e$677b4c40$1001a8c0@succubus> <05c601c819a1$8599b010$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <4abe8f62ed5c3612270bd11d9a0453d5@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <4abe8f62ed5c3612270bd11d9a0453d5@charter.net> Subject: RE: y2k7 mp3s Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:21:50 -0700 Message-ID: <000601c819a8$8ffea6d0$affbf470$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgZqFO62bUaiBkIRiudVw+dv7m/iAAADvJQ Content-Language: en-us X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: Dffa4071600000f8f.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75792 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:21:27 +0000 (UTC) I agree with Ted on Experiment#1. #1 sounds similar to the live audience experience - perhaps depending on where you were sitting in the room in relation to the PA spkrs. #2 sounds like a 'different mic placement' that has been enhanced with some effects, and not as much like the live audience experience (IMO - but then who else's O would it be ;-) And Thanks! For reminding me how wonderful Henry Kaiser's performance was - and for those who were not able to attend Y2K7 - this was being played in front of an amazing! Video Henry shot underwater for freakin' alien looking landscape and critters that live there - amazing!! -Qua -----Original Message----- From: tEd R KiLLiAn [mailto:tedkillian@charter.net] Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 2:10 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: y2k7 mp3s Krispen To my ears #1 seems to be "cleaner" and more like the concert experience (but maybe just a little duller). Track #2 seems to have more warmth, presence and overall "punch" (but it seems a tad bit overdriven too). It would be interesting to know what the difference was (recording level?, EQ?, mic placement?, stereo imaging/paning?post- recording normalization?). Cheers, Ted On Oct 28, 2007, at 1:31 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: >> >> Are these the two recordings which you also posted on the y2kloopfest >> website? If so: > > Yes. > > Let's let a few other folks respond, and I'll reveal the secret > between the two. > > Kris > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 21:29:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA6673BEE2; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: <000f01c81967$38fd0110$1001a8c0@succubus> <05b401c8199a$7b41ffc0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <05b401c8199a$7b41ffc0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: RE: y2k7 mp3s Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:29:34 -0700 Message-ID: <000701c819a9$a39ea630$eadbf290$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgZm+J0g0yCtXrETKWC5NvSUPgP1AADTuHA Content-Language: en-us X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: D01730359000011dc.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Hi again, Kris Interesting , on the "another experiment", I actually preferred the Edirol recording. Larger sound stage, and the low freq sound OK to me. I really wish I could have stayed thru Sunday to hear this live, fascinating! -Qua -----Original Message----- From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net] Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 12:41 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: y2k7 mp3s Here is an experiment: Listen to both of these recordings of Henry Kaiser at Y2K7, or just the first minute of each file to get a flavor of the sound. http://www.box.net/shared/8bqpziuucu http://www.box.net/shared/eab932crud Can anyone here any differences in the two files? If so, what? Which one do you prefer? Another experiment: These two files of are of me and Lucio Menegon. One is direct from the board, the other is just from his Eidorol recorder. http://www.box.net/shared/static/4hbusvh7cd.mp3 (MP3) - Soundboard Version http://www.box.net/shared/static/kiq0gf9key.mp3 (MP3) - Live mic version Any preference? Notice how the mic version in no way captures the major low end frequency of my guitar part (using pitch shifter and string tuned down to very low...it's probably in the 10-20k range. I don't think I've experienced a mic that could capture this in the same way as the driect recording. Maybe a $1000 + grade mic? Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 21:33:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3E2A3BEDD; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=gT2UBglRz+Cmt5E1kXf7DdLkBbfAFFJPDn1OE9TipcM=; b=sHh22I5MEHK/0g1ULBjC9HxbC/SfiL/ex5GCAc8puizTKSGmt1z1ljVTYEifzSUfSRagIhkRvU8q/2bgSB/zDL4zsht3Uj2Vg97o4X7PFeIxwYgjdeIjOrW5VZ8YImWHQ/21FbNyoTIvH5gb6bmWWAHVo0xWOZon+lKJyOmJCDA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=N2mms8YgSnE9CtxLMbuQzZ8NTd0Jnqz2EtWflZh/EA6+zFHJVoyS/RmB57UFesKSreWHmVaNvgrNlxI47MneocL3bB8mJzj9cQzkRlYXuHOPmKAu9QH9S5H2ETEjc7pJP+pZCPFTj25/tHPS41wbz+ZekSh3C8i31S8OYp/4heY= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <000601c819a8$8ffea6d0$affbf470$@com> References: <000301c8199e$677b4c40$1001a8c0@succubus> <05c601c819a1$8599b010$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <4abe8f62ed5c3612270bd11d9a0453d5@charter.net> <000601c819a8$8ffea6d0$affbf470$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: y2k7 mp3s Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:33:27 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <2W4MiD.A.VhD.uAQJHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:33:34 +0000 (UTC) On 28 okt 2007, at 22.21, Qua Veda wrote: > I agree with Ted on Experiment#1. #1 sounds similar to the live > audience > experience - perhaps depending on where you were sitting in the > room in > relation to the PA spkrs. > > #2 sounds like a 'different mic placement' that has been enhanced > with some > effects, and not as much like the live audience experience (IMO - > but then > who else's O would it be ;-) > > And Thanks! For reminding me how wonderful Henry Kaiser's > performance was - > and for those who were not able to attend Y2K7 - this was being > played in > front of an amazing! Video Henry shot underwater for freakin' alien > looking > landscape and critters that live there - amazing!! > > -Qua I also prefer the recording Friday #1 for #2 of Kaiser's material. Lately I have heroically exposed myself to a recording of Henry's gig I carried out with my cell phone, in mono and with crappy fidelity. *This sounds so much better! I also downloaded the 2 mic recoding of my own set and analyzed it to find that the room + PA system boosts the bass frequencies quite a lot. I could tell because I have trimmed my laptop based live rig with reverse-mixing technique and know fairly well what frequencies it sends out. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Oct 28 22:07:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E8823BEE2; Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:07:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=/XEkOpxrzZ5uZUgGdZyJEtjcefdTsZkxeCNYsWJLFRc=; b=p/ZOOqnI1iy/gTqxbWLXPTxtX7oUMizTFmAZb6v7veojfBAHlCbvMX6aCpTaoE1Jt4KBbaUVYM8C/DNM4u3uNB0oul16SadAqk93n7OjFFz8tet8dWHvuKpiol7xOFOU9g4g+ZEMKiQuv5qdWBtKonl3W6iL3jjmiPDgvAZCToM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=J5JREhAgxT/5IK3GXtY7b6R6RT0byPKAgaZe2ssSIYE//2LYjcIudlFO2LnhfA2QJbRsWfGgBaCx9pcQ8SMu/7jWHhIGX4eb8TOHkKxdQ11aAEw9JOyIJXovbf6Ppsatk6thPzXz1yv2jl7DBa1fvFCT/thzM/HK/RpiZ6uWt+k= Message-ID: <4759e5740710281507u757a85dape5179f4ab6235b2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 18:07:14 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: y2k7 mp3s In-Reply-To: <05b401c8199a$7b41ffc0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8509_8729149.1193609234990" References: <000f01c81967$38fd0110$1001a8c0@succubus> <05b401c8199a$7b41ffc0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:07:19 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_8509_8729149.1193609234990 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline it is, of course, night and day... I just can't believe how that low-end sounds so intact and beautiful in an mp3... i've got my subwoofer on and it sounds absolutely beautiful in here... I wish i knew live recording better so as to offer an educated comment, but at first blush I'd think mic placement and number of channels (more than stereo) would be the key, rather than depending on a stereo mic... gotta capture that low end in some specific manner I'd think... but that's not a pro view, of course... this is a great track anyway, thanks for the opportunity to listen to it. t. On 10/28/07, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > Here is an experiment: > > Listen to both of these recordings of Henry Kaiser at Y2K7, or just the > first minute of each file to get a flavor of the sound. > http://www.box.net/shared/8bqpziuucu > http://www.box.net/shared/eab932crud > > Can anyone here any differences in the two files? If so, what? Which one > do > you prefer? > > Another experiment: > > These two files of are of me and Lucio Menegon. One is direct from the > board, the other is just from his Eidorol recorder. > http://www.box.net/shared/static/4hbusvh7cd.mp3 (MP3) - Soundboard Version > http://www.box.net/shared/static/kiq0gf9key.mp3 (MP3) - Live mic version > > Any preference? Notice how the mic version in no way captures the major > low > end frequency of my guitar part (using pitch shifter and string tuned down > to very low...it's probably in the 10-20k range. I don't think I've > experienced a mic that could capture this in the same way as the driect > recording. Maybe a $1000 + grade mic? > > Kris > > > > > -- http://www.toddreynolds.com |: http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic |: ------------------------------------------------------|: 917.576.6166 todd@toddreynolds.com toddreyn@gmail.com ------=_Part_8509_8729149.1193609234990 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline it is, of course, night and day... 

    I just can't believe how that low-end sounds so intact and beautiful in an mp3... i've got my subwoofer on and it sounds absolutely beautiful in here... 

    I wish i knew live recording better so as to offer an educated comment, but at first blush I'd think mic placement and number of channels (more than stereo)  would be the key, rather than depending on a stereo mic... gotta capture that low end in some specific manner I'd think...

    but that's not a pro view, of course... 

    this is a great track anyway, thanks for the opportunity to listen to it.

    t.



    On 10/28/07, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
    Here is an experiment:

    Listen to both of these recordings of Henry Kaiser at Y2K7, or just the
    first minute of each file to get a flavor of the sound.
    http://www.box.net/shared/8bqpziuucu
    http://www.box.net/shared/eab932crud

    Can anyone here any differences in the two files? If so, what? Which one do
    you prefer?

    Another experiment:

    These two files of are of me and Lucio Menegon. One is direct from the
    board, the other is just from his Eidorol recorder.
    http://www.box.net/shared/static/4hbusvh7cd.mp3 (MP3) - Soundboard Version
    http://www.box.net/shared/static/kiq0gf9key.mp3 (MP3) - Live mic version

    Any preference? Notice how the mic version in no way captures the major low
    end frequency of my guitar part (using pitch shifter and string tuned down
    to very low...it's probably in the 10-20k range. I don't think I've
    experienced a mic that could capture this in the same way as the driect
    recording. Maybe a $1000 + grade mic?

    Kris







    --
    http://www.toddreynolds.com                    |:
    http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic  |:
    ------------------------------------------------------|:
    917.576.6166                                              
    todd@toddreynolds.com
    toddreyn@gmail.com
    ------=_Part_8509_8729149.1193609234990-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 00:24:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A72733BED2; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.21,339,1188741600"; d="scan'208,217";a="14817622" Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C819C2.166E55CC" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: RE: Y2K7 Mp3s Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:24:37 +1100 Message-ID: <9C151BE24B28B54D870B5F89BD87EBCE9BE094@aaunsw745.au.cbainet.com> In-Reply-To: <02ea01c8185d$035b9d60$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Y2K7 Mp3s Thread-Index: AcgYXQ2a3Dh847FCT9iGCF0F2nfbxQBZOZEg From: "Sowonja, Tomson" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Oct 2007 00:24:40.0365 (UTC) FILETIME=[186485D0:01C819C2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 00:24:49 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C819C2.166E55CC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Listening to them now - some really beautiful work there.=20 =20 definitely helping me to pass my work day blissfully.=20 =20 listening to Barry Cleveland now - awesome! =20 thanks for posting these up.=20 =20 Cheers Tom ________________________________ From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]=20 Sent: Saturday, 27 October 2007 3:49 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K7 Mp3s Here is the official MP3 page. I have been posting them as folks give me the okay: =20 http://www.y2kloopfest.com/mp3.html =20 I still have Sunday's files to master, and still waiting for most of Saturday performers to review their clips. =20 Kris =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 =20 er, uh, are these just for players? I can't see the tunes. I know that ya didn,t mean ta post that to the general list but now that the cats out of the bag may I beg a listen? a thousand apologies if I'm out of line. peace jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Krispen Hartung =20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 11:15 AM Subject: Re: Y2K7 Mp3s Ahhh...I did not mean to send this to LD. Sorry.=20 =20 Kris =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 =20 Thanks, Kris. I now have a great soundtrack for the day. Listening to Per's lovely work right now. It is just so cool. Ahhhhh... Like a dip in a fresh mountain stream. =20 =20 I think "document" is a good description for the sound - having been at a couple of the LoopFests including Y2K6 at the same location, this brings me right into the experience, which is so great. So I dig the "room tone" - it's certainly good enough (so far) to make for an exciting and uplifting experience. It might even be more involving than a more perfect recording, at least for some. =20 =09 ________________________________ From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]=20 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:06 AM =09 Subject: Y2K7 Mp3s =20 Hello all, =20 I have uploaded the first batch of MP3s to my server. Please reveiw your clips. If you are fine with them, let me know and I'll post them on the website. Also, don't forget to send me your favorite picture taken by Mark. =20 A few notes. Last year I recorded directly from the board and the recordings sounded much more studio like and higher quality. This year, as you saw, I was recording live from two condensor mics. Hence, don't expect perfection on these. On occasion, you can hear audience chatter, things moving around in the back of the room, etc. But I did the best I could to cut out dead air space and bring the recordings up to line level so they are audible. They are a decent documentation of the event, but not CD worthy, in my honest opnion. =20 http://www.box.net/shared/o1cqrfgf5k =20 =20 =09 ________________________________ =09 No virus found in this incoming message. 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    Listening to them now - some really beautiful work= there.=20
     
    definitely helping me to pass my work day blissful= ly.=20
     
    listening to Barry Cleveland now -=20 awesome!
     
    thanks for posting these up.
     
    Cheers
    Tom

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    Here is the official MP3 page. I have been= posting=20 them as folks give me the okay:
     
    http://www.y2kloopfest.com/mp3= .html
     
    I still have Sunday's files to master, and= still=20 waiting for most of Saturday performers to review their clips.
     
    Kris
     
     
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    peace
    jeff
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    Ahhh...I did not mean to send this to = LD.=20 Sorry.
     
    Kris
     
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    Hello=20 all,

     

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    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C819C2.166E55CC-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 03:28:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B6603BED8; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 03:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1592 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 03:28:39 UTC X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAAbqJEdMRBKD/2dsb2JhbACjMg Reply-To: From: "PiNG" To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , "Dark Seeds" , "Drone Deep Chill" , "Loopers Delight" , "The Ambient Way" , Subject: 10.30.07 > THE PiNG presents Ghost of a flea and MiMo Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:02:02 -0500 Organization: THE AMBiENT PiNG Message-ID: <000101c819e0$764a03f0$a27ba8c0@dream> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 03:28:40 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THiS TUESDAY . OCTOBER 30TH . THE PiNG presents=20 ALL HALLOW=92S EVE-EVE featuring Ghost of a flea and MiMo LiVE in the UNDERGROUND @ THE DRAKE HOTEL Tuesday October 30th . 8PM . PWYC (5$ Suggested) =20 . COMiNG iN NOVEMBER . THE PiNG presents AN AUTUMN CHiLL=20 featuring SHEN and MARK THIBIDEAU (from Repair) LiVE in the UNDERGROUND @ THE DRAKE HOTEL Tuesday November 27th . 8PM . PWYC (5$ Suggested) =20 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10.30.07 . THE PiNG's presents ALL HALLOW=92S EVE-EVE=20 featuring GHOST OF A FLEA and MiMo @ the UNDERGROUND downstairs @ the DRAKE HOTEL 1150 Queen St. W @ Beaconsfield . W of Ossington . E of Dufferin TUESDAY OCTOBER 30TH . 8PM . PWYC (5$ suggested) . Ghost of a flea is a noise/ritual/literary project by Toronto-based Nicholas Packwood. Ghost of a flea draws on techniques from musique concr=E8te, found sound and angelic grammar to produce cinematic dark ambient music for opening the gates, for conjuring lost love, for summoning and binding. 93 93/93 http://www.myspace.com/ghostofaflea . MiMo is a duo featuring multi-instrumentalists Matt Miller (laptop, guitars and synth) and Samuel Morgenstein (drums, percussion and electronics). Their live performances combine stripped down compositions and skeletal arrangements to create wide-open soundscapes for improvisation. This improvisation can take many forms: solos, the laying down of a spontaneous groove, or an act of inspiration whereby sounds, rhythms and phrases are captured in real-time, then deconstructed, manipulated and re-organized, until, in a fleeting moment, these elements collide into a distant murmur, a pulse, an explosion, or even cacophony. MiMo will be playing a spooky set that will feature a newly=20 created ambient/organica/necrophilia/electronica work entitled=20 Dinner for Two plus video deemed too graphic for those of=20 weak constitution. Join MiMo as they push the boundaries=20 of good taste one more time . . . it is Halloween after all. http://www.mimomusic.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic, soundscape, chillout, trip hop, dream pop, downtempo, space, darkwave, drone and experimental artists from around the world. http://www.theambientping.com Tune in anytime to AMBiENT PING RADiO at http://www.ambientpingradio.com ViSiT ping things for ambient, electronic and chill things: http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or appropriate newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 03:43:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B6C13BEDE; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 03:43:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <060401c819dd$d5cc4520$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <000f01c81967$38fd0110$1001a8c0@succubus> <05b401c8199a$7b41ffc0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: y2k7 mp3s Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 21:43:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 03:43:17 +0000 (UTC) Ah, what fun. Okay, I'll reveal the secret. Track 1 below was recorded mono with just one AKG C1000. I started with two but I had cable problems. Track #2 is just the tiny, stock stereo 1/8 inch mic that comes with the M-Audio MicroTrack recorder. Heh heh....funny. In fact, all the recordings from Friday night, after that initial mono recording of Kaiser, were recorded with the m-audio stereo mic. Saturday and Sunday were recording with stereo C1000s, once I figured out the problem. I'm with Rainer. I disklike all of them (except for soundboard recordings). If I could afford it, I'd rather use some really expensive high end mics, or go back to soundboard recordings. All the mics just seem to butcher my memory of the real experience, hearing with my own ears. Kris > Here is an experiment: > > Listen to both of these recordings of Henry Kaiser at Y2K7, or just the > first minute of each file to get a flavor of the sound. > http://www.box.net/shared/8bqpziuucu (#1) > http://www.box.net/shared/eab932crud (#2) > > Can anyone here any differences in the two files? If so, what? Which one > do you prefer? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 04:08:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A85AF3BED8; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 04:08:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=NaTZvTIS2xq+6/ap38kAZsKRkf7NsX8qiv3IWq9CcOM=; b=p6GHs9x8eliSJwrvSDvAFFVU9uMpa23Dzu1cW8SGt1Sndv36ADDdexVTNUs6nsNviMnJBMtJkSFiy/xM+/l4ngEGUVyjUIr9JStowOJj2hanvLinwgkl+mOeH9atmxGO5G8B16GDZDTBEEXuzWiRhKihDfYNjO3z1W2gvQ0MewY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=mGH4udW+6lRcoWV2xfHpKH/HL4WZCAr2QFOQebkRcR3U4seEXDvcpPMIlwaVeyJLrB8OiNQj9enP7CZVauuNDYrA+ZeNUPb4Apb8qRXnBMGUwIqvmD8cohDcA/tqGZ8gctsUwQkH6fKlzSLA/7GryoMgabnVJ1YlRYOGDq8wm1o= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 05:08:26 +0100 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: y2k7 mp3s In-Reply-To: <060401c819dd$d5cc4520$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14700_16271659.1193630906293" References: <000f01c81967$38fd0110$1001a8c0@succubus> <05b401c8199a$7b41ffc0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <060401c819dd$d5cc4520$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: <3kIH5.A.pED.7yVJHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 04:08:27 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_14700_16271659.1193630906293 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Another option would be to get some tiny Core Sound Binaurals, that are far bellow 1000$... They would be a major step for your microtrack Krispen, by replacing the included stereo mic. 2 cents. R. 2007/10/29, Krispen Hartung : > > Ah, what fun. Okay, I'll reveal the secret. Track 1 below was recorded > mono > with just one AKG C1000. I started with two but I had cable problems. > Track > #2 is just the tiny, stock stereo 1/8 inch mic that comes with the M-Audio > MicroTrack recorder. Heh heh....funny. In fact, all the recordings from > Friday night, after that initial mono recording of Kaiser, were recorded > with the m-audio stereo mic. Saturday and Sunday were recording with > stereo > C1000s, once I figured out the problem. > > I'm with Rainer. I disklike all of them (except for soundboard > recordings). > If I could afford it, I'd rather use some really expensive high end mics, > or > go back to soundboard recordings. All the mics just seem to butcher my > memory of the real experience, hearing with my own ears. > > Kris > > > > Here is an experiment: > > > > Listen to both of these recordings of Henry Kaiser at Y2K7, or just the > > first minute of each file to get a flavor of the sound. > > http://www.box.net/shared/8bqpziuucu (#1) > > http://www.box.net/shared/eab932crud (#2) > > > > Can anyone here any differences in the two files? If so, what? Which one > > do you prefer? > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_14700_16271659.1193630906293 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Another option would be to get some tiny Core Sound Binaurals,
    that are far bellow 1000$...

    They would be a major step for your microtrack Krispen,
    by replacing the included stereo mic.

    2 cents.
    R.

    2007/10/29, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net>:
    Ah, what fun. Okay, I'll reveal the secret. Track 1 below was recorded mono
    with just one AKG C1000. I started with two but I had cable problems. Track
    #2 is just the tiny, stock stereo 1/8 inch mic that comes with the M-Audio
    MicroTrack recorder.  Heh heh....funny.  In fact, all the recordings from
    Friday night, after that initial mono recording of Kaiser, were recorded
    with the m-audio stereo mic. Saturday and Sunday were recording with stereo
    C1000s, once I figured out the problem.

    I'm with Rainer. I disklike all of them (except for soundboard recordings).
    If I could afford it, I'd rather use some really expensive high end mics, or
    go back to soundboard recordings. All the mics just seem to butcher my
    memory of the real experience, hearing with my own ears.

    Kris


    > Here is an experiment:
    >
    > Listen to both of these recordings of Henry Kaiser at Y2K7, or just the
    > first minute of each file to get a flavor of the sound.
    > http://www.box.net/shared/8bqpziuucu (#1)
    > http://www.box.net/shared/eab932crud (#2)
    >
    > Can anyone here any differences in the two files? If so, what? Which one
    > do you prefer?




    --
    The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_14700_16271659.1193630906293-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 04:25:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E26A3BED2; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 04:25:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 23:27:20 -0500 From: Jeff Shirkey Subject: Re: y2k7 mp3s In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <000f01c81967$38fd0110$1001a8c0@succubus> <05b401c8199a$7b41ffc0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <060401c819dd$d5cc4520$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 04:25:38 +0000 (UTC) On Oct 28, 2007, at 11:08 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > Another option would be to get some tiny Core Sound Binaurals, > that are far bellow 1000$... > And I happen to have an extra set of these mics, if someone wants to buy them. No clips on them, however. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 07:22:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8FCE53BECF; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:22:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=0BXzU4RR+s5RJsZnDQs+WUiOPGbycmof7OLDYeNl6JM=; b=Mt3pQU5HSvu8FYnwmWygjC7izbdJ3SNoOD/jLu9W1SB6dir7fwCCcosZ9s2ka8U6vwvQZqPi8F7vd0kyurBHHnmed9O/G1bqcShMcZfcQHdjGfsBgQ1NHuXv+ZMWBkReLX/hMknhckMJ7ZYsbbR1SlzZsdBFdpNEXQvuKPBQUHk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=fo9gUPmrwWTHHU2tKG5piEw6ey7iq9LjjzOkggZVmxjFBzchVKmyq9jTLVxaLyTqq6mxEMfWh5p3xs6FdKMapysmMjdqANii+itN6os7l84DTiKcr+sByaKNTORLxK68B9fLi5EruIkSf8qtC/pUOGLeXbIulsRoCQEd9r7PCrY= Message-ID: <26ba8d120710290022o798d2ca1gd4c11d2126e4900a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 03:22:25 -0400 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: "Tom Ritchford" Subject: 10/29 (tonight!): Tom Swirly presents: The Illusion of Maya MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: c65b6b7f3b31b641 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75801 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:22:28 +0000 (UTC) Hello, one and all, young and old, brave and bold friends, acquaintances and people who's lists I'm on (and a special nod to the looper's delight and open loop crew -- drop by to loop after midnight!) I've been planning this show for a while but this absolutely exceptional location and evening just fell into my lap so I thought I'd jump on it despite the very short notice (I just had the final confirmation a few minutes ago). It's tonight but if we get any sort of show at all we'll be able to do it repeatedly... Jump to the end for the skinny on the space. Tom Swirly presents: The Illusion of Maya: an avant-garde talk show and variety act. featuring Maya Sky with Tom Swirly playing himself "Under Maya's influence, the soul mistakenly identifies with the body" On the bill: Tom Swirly and Maya Sky: 8:00 Dr. Steam Whipple: 8:25 Puppies Hold Hands: 8:50 Han Tammen/Tom Shad/Joshua Fried trio: 9:15 -- ten minute break -- The Illusion: 10:05 Joshua Fried's Radio Wonderland: 10:15 Dan Jones: 10:50 Kid Lucky: 11:20 Sky and Swirly and the cast: 11:45 midnight and later: open loop (all performers of all types) There will likely be dancers, including the illustrious Valmonte Sprout. Monday, October 29, 8PM sharp till late. at the basement of Lucky Cheng's http://www.planetluckychengs.com/ 24 1st Ave. between E1st and East 2nd. (Note that we will unfortunately not have many if any of the drag queens in the basement part of the bar...) We'll be starting at 8 promptly. Ask for the Early Bird Buyback special. First five guests get a free drink!!! (always tip your bartender!) First ten guests get free admission!! Next ten guests pay $3! ... but only if you ask for it. Otherwise $5. (always $3 after midnight!) Notes on the show: Maya hosts The guests play music (or do other things but tonight it's all music) Tom interviews the guests Maya and Tom play with the guests. Repeat. (My personal) notes on the performers: Maya is an illusion but will sing for you. Tom Swirly (open loop, Verge, etc) plays electronic wind instrument, sings, manipulates machines, and does various other entertaining activities. Dr. Steam Whipple will entertain you on the classical guitar. Puppies Hold Hands has Touching You (Liquid Tapedeck, Haunted Pussy, etc) and Tom Swirly (henceforth TS), together again after almost five years and a show that was raided by the police. Han Tammen plays endangered guitar. Tom Shad plays bass. Joshua Fried plays...er... things. The Illusion may or may not appear. Dan Jones is the Welsh guitar wizard from open loop and TS's summer street fair. Kid Lucky is the groundbreaking beatboxer. This marks his first time on the same stage as TS since their a cappella hip hop duo Volectrix self-released two CD titles in 2000. Valmonte Sprout is a home-grown mime/Butoh/performance dancer whose dark, ritualistic show Node Be The Altas (with TS performing the music) was one of the last things at the old Ludlow Collective: Unconscious space. Notes on the space: It's super-fantastic for the audience and performers alike. The performance area is in the back, comfortable, nice big stage, good PA, we can hardly go wrong. There's a nice bar area in the front separated by a hall from the performance area so you can go away and chat and then come back and watch again. Mind the step on the way in!! Patrick Bucklew (ex-Mo Pitkins) is manning the bar. He's a great guy, a serious artist and performer himself, and very supportive of our attempts. -- /t http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 09:17:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C6F143BEDD; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:17:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: y2k7 mp3s Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 10:17:55 +0100 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000901c81a0c$96d6fa20$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: <060401c819dd$d5cc4520$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Thread-Index: AcgZ3dfbsZWJht8YReS1KVj4/YiucgALiT0w X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OIWEFJZFdW4= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:17:26 +0000 (UTC) > Ah, what fun. Okay, I'll reveal the secret. Track 1 below was > recorded mono with just one AKG C1000. I started with two but > I had cable problems. Track > #2 is just the tiny, stock stereo 1/8 inch mic that comes > with the M-Audio MicroTrack recorder. Heh heh....funny. In Now, did you do some stereo enhancement techniques with these files? My suspicion arises because a) #1 is not a mono signal, b) of the phase problems in #2. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 09:43:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABF2D3BEDD; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:43:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=mcqcD7U2NVd2pUDVXyzTYWDDPjCu7YGFpFcj80U045fSjddLrRshZ5QSgwAZ1MEZvNiEVDT2I7keYMinpknHgSmKQtiBfI+WVSri2bhTbaKdFSwGwr0oTIpuvQPWhvtXFbwVzfvuKdvloXlrIlz0wO0NFM1O+SOiD5qWznkOSUQ=; X-YMail-OSG: NtCXtssVM1ltwy.gWtY3hrMuG.O1n77cp0OikDu6E1k2I.7dItf5a5sYzHCmMcWKn09AO73oZWQSvuH7Tg7TNKRZ_HZrWw412ASVNrHYohQc93KJCYM- Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 02:43:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Gordius Midi Pedal - first impressions To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4724EA3E.70504@unguitar.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <883478.20537.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:43:17 +0000 (UTC) Luca thank you kindly!I was about to sell my second EDP but with this FC i am thinking i could control both separately plus my effects,mofx and sampler all ,sweet,sweet... does it feel bigger than the FCB1010 or bulkier? what about weight? have u found a case for it? cheers Luis --- Luca Formentini wrote: > Hi all, > I am receiving some mails asking me to send some > comments about the > footcontroller from Gordius, knowing that I have > received one a few > weeks ago. > I am replying here on LD so that it maybe can be of > some use for more > of you. > > 1st: I payed in full for my Gordius controller - so > don't be afraid my > words might be deviating from the real experience, > plus I would never > send bad informations on any list, imagine on the > one I am partecipating > since so many years ;-) > > The project is smart because it is putting together > so many things that > have never been available all together in the same > footcontroller, but > for you to check about it you just need to download > the manual and the > new editor, so let's go to having it under your > feet: > > -switches: they are silent. They are not as the Edp > ones and they are a > type I have never seen before in musical > instruments. When I say they > are silent I mean I can use them when recording in a > silent and desert > big church together with acoustic instruments and > microphones everywhere. > > -spacing between buttons: I don't have my Edps > anymore so I can't check > how distant were the switches of the footcontroller, > anyway I feel very > comfortable with them. Consider that, when compared > to other > looper-friendly pedals I own like the Pmc 10 and the > Midiwizard, the > fact that with the Gordus you have buttons instead > of bigger print > switches is allowing me not to play bare feet > anymore. > > -switches orientation - the first and second row: > Before receiving my > unit I was afraid it could be a problem but I have > found it isn't. There > is no risk to push the upper switch and the other > one, especially if you > are standing ( I play almost all time sitting). > > -editor: very good work indeed. Not just because the > guy managed to put > in all the ideas I was dreaming for but also because > it seems to be very > reliable and practical. I would like it to be a > little simpler but that > is a thing that crashes against the versatility I am > asking for and that > I need. > > -the company: Xavier has been very kind, more than > you would usually > expect from a supplier. This is because he maybe > doesn't do what he does > for profit but for passion ( Jeff ? you have > infected another one !), he > is very responsive to all suggestions and shows a > clean and very open > mind ( VERY unusal thing from most producers). He is > clearly well > documented about Midi, the other controllers > available and electronics. > > What would I change of it ? > -The size: it is 2 cm wider than the size allowed to > be brought in cabin. > > What would I add to it ? > -Mains or Usb power. > > I am happy to have bought it. > This is all. > > My best, > Luca > www.unguitar.com > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 13:41:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2CCC3BEDD; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:41:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <06cf01c81a31$6578e2c0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <000901c81a0c$96d6fa20$1001a8c0@succubus> Subject: Re: y2k7 mp3s Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 07:41:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75804 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:41:26 +0000 (UTC) For #1, all I did was copy the exact content in L to R. I may have applied some minor reverb (waves) to the file to generate a subtle difference, but I can't recall. If the wave forms are not identical, it is because of that and not any sophisticated stereo enhancement...there was no stereo image to begin with, so nothing to enhance. On the second file, I may have applied some stereo enhancement, but I believe Kaiser was mono to begin with from the stage, so that may not be the case either. I think what you are seeing is the result of some minor room reverb applied. Moreover, on several of the files, I applied some minor stereo image widening. There is a subtle difference. Since I was doing some of this editing at the event, I was able to compare the non-widened effect, with the widened effect, and with my memory of the audio at the actual event. The widening more accuractly re-produced the stereo imaging I heard from my vantage point, being next to the mics at the back and center of the room. For most of these "enhancements" you will not be able to hear major differences, but your analysis software may detect them nonetheless. Kris ----- Original Message ----- >> Ah, what fun. Okay, I'll reveal the secret. Track 1 below was >> recorded mono with just one AKG C1000. I started with two but >> I had cable problems. Track >> #2 is just the tiny, stock stereo 1/8 inch mic that comes >> with the M-Audio MicroTrack recorder. Heh heh....funny. In > > Now, did you do some stereo enhancement techniques with these files? My > suspicion arises because a) #1 is not a mono signal, b) of the phase > problems in #2. > > Rainer > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 14:46:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A98853BEDD; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:46:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <06fa01c81a3a$738069c0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <000f01c81967$38fd0110$1001a8c0@succubus> <05b401c8199a$7b41ffc0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <060401c819dd$d5cc4520$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: y2k7 mp3s Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 08:46:10 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75805 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:46:14 +0000 (UTC) These, I am assuming... http://www.core-sound.com/mics.html These little things can compare to high quality condensor mics? The beauty of the microtrack recorder is that it has 1/4 inch balanced and phantom powered mic inputs. So I am not limited to a stereo mini jack. Kris > On Oct 28, 2007, at 11:08 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > >> Another option would be to get some tiny Core Sound Binaurals, >> that are far bellow 1000$... >> > And I happen to have an extra set of these mics, if someone wants to buy > them. No clips on them, however. > > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 15:38:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45A323BEDE; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: Core Sound hardware Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:39:11 +0100 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000001c81a41$da328700$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcgaOnTLPUo0gnQ1SQal6a6QLLklUAAB0urQ In-Reply-To: <06fa01c81a3a$738069c0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OICJYdUIWLA= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: <7_m1y.A.6dF.H6fJHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75806 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Btw, if you are looking for a high-quality, portable micpre, these have gotten rave reviews: http://www.core-sound.com/Mic2496/1.php > These, I am assuming... > > http://www.core-sound.com/mics.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 16:55:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00E693BED8; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:55:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:55:20 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: FC-300 (was How to simulate a piano sustain pedal) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_=__=_XaM3_.1193676920.2A.643616.42.2546.52.42.007.1129733381" From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 145.58.65.145 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75807 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:55:23 +0000 (UTC) --_=__=_XaM3_.1193676920.2A.643616.42.2546.52.42.007.1129733381 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for all your replies. It appeared that the FCB1010 was too big to = fit under my synth stand; second: my supplier told me that a lot of the F= CB's have been returned within a year due to hardware failures..... So I = have decided to buy the Roland FC-300 First impression: + all pedals can be of type latch or momentary =3D> piano sustain can be = programmed :) + good positioning of all pedals + good visibility of green and red LED's on stage + easy to progam, no manual needed + build like a tank =3D> as the FC-200 - 1 global midi channel setting =3D> it's not possible to store different= midi channel's with a pedal setting - only 1 control message per pedal BTW The Gordius looks like a very interesting but it looks designed for s= tanding guitar players. I don't know but the switches don't look very com= fortable for your feet when you're sitting behind a piano with a Gordius = on the floor.=0A---=0AScarlet One, ADSL 6 Mbps + Telefonie, vanaf EUR 29,= 95...=0Ahttp://www.scarlet.be/ --_=__=_XaM3_.1193676920.2A.643616.42.2546.52.42.007.1129733381 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Thanks for all your replies. It appeared that the FCB1010 was too bi= g to fit under my synth stand; second: my supplier told me that a lot of = the FCB's have been returned within a year due to hardware failures..... = So I have decided to buy the Roland FC-300  
     
    First impression:
    + all pedals can be of type latch or momentary =3D> pia= no sustain can be programmed :)
    + good positioning of all pedals
    + good visibility of green and red LED's on stage
    + easy to progam, no manual needed
    + build like a tank =3D> as the FC-200
    - 1 global midi channel setting =3D> it's not possible = to store different midi channel's with a pedal setting
    - only 1 control message per pedal
     
    BTW The Gordius looks like a very interesting but it looks desi= gned for standing guitar players. I don't know but the switches don'= t look very comfortable for your feet when you're sitting behind a piano = with a Gordius on the floor.
    --_=__=_XaM3_.1193676920.2A.643616.42.2546.52.42.007.1129733381-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 18:18:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77D2C3BEF3; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject:date:x-mailer; bh=8f0qaWGgOT5WpZjgdWOhuPVMwLGwqEWt59Plky388KE=; b=X5xWwtYTnxhUSwPls8GfHTr2p4ye0VZo0QrfGTrKSzSvNz8vkQB8GY5KounSJoKoVuDh4zk2mY2SBo/4s2nCsTVERjVUqMYuIzTU5WZLwkTN9dFJEsUsulh3TaBZGS0+peuD/0sIAnLKeCOS85WOHBKHsgK2TAE3FyRTAI1JMbc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:content-type:to:from:subject:date:x-mailer; b=R92jXQMqyyuguNrhpqSwEPONXlHQuboYIkNmk+m0qQIDkTaEt/90Fce2bW3ebXuo30MatX3Aj8+mVUlObR+B3x0kHpGAcNeaWXYBRKQy1y6iJtuQEntgwsXAGBQ+bD3gDBakpfVjCiEk2uqF3260Y4bLjIIN/+zGv56H6qo8Ip8= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <939C591B-F587-44CD-95C0-7D9373C12347@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers From: Per Boysen Subject: Y2K7 Movie Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:18:03 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Hi Everyone, I have spliced together all my cell phone shootings from the International Live Looping Festival in Santa Cruz into a 444 mb Quicktime movie: http://www.looproom.com/y2k7movie_pboy.mov Hope someone finds it amusing. It was very fun to make it. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 18:46:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32D883BEF9; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <939C591B-F587-44CD-95C0-7D9373C12347@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K7 Movie Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:46:13 -0400 In-Reply-To: <939C591B-F587-44CD-95C0-7D9373C12347@gmail.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: harryesq@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8C9E8731D4769FA_980_4208_WEBMAIL-MC21.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 31361-STANDARD Message-Id: <8C9E8731D4769FA-980-2048@WEBMAIL-MC21.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 64.12.170.98 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:46:22 +0000 (UTC) ----------MB_8C9E8731D4769FA_980_4208_WEBMAIL-MC21.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Per - I'm trying to watch the .mov and it doesn't seem to be downloading.? Is the link working?? Thanks, Harry Harry Weinberg, Esq. Law Offices of Harry Weinberg 11 Beach Street - 8th Floor New York, N.Y. 10013 (212) 989-2908 -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen To: Loopers Sent: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 2:18 pm Subject: Y2K7 Movie Hi Everyone,? ? I have spliced together all my cell phone shootings from the International Live Looping Festival in Santa Cruz into a 444 mb Quicktime movie:? ? http://www.looproom.com/y2k7movie_pboy.mov? ? Hope someone finds it amusing. It was very fun to make it.? ? Greetings from Sweden? ? Per Boysen? www.boysen.se (Swedish)? www.looproom.com (international)? ? ? ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ----------MB_8C9E8731D4769FA_980_4208_WEBMAIL-MC21.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Per - I'm trying to watch the .mov and it doesn't seem to be downloading.  Is the link working?  Thanks,

    Harry

    Harry Weinberg, Esq.
    Law Offices of Harry Weinberg
    11 Beach Street - 8th Floor
    New York, N.Y. 10013
    (212) 989-2908


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
    To: Loopers <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
    Sent: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 2:18 pm
    Subject: Y2K7 Movie

    Hi Everyone, 
     
    I have spliced together all my cell phone shootings from the International Live Looping Festival in Santa Cruz into a 444 mb Quicktime movie: 
     
    http://www.looproom.com/y2k7movie_pboy.mov 
     
    Hope someone finds it amusing. It was very fun to make it. 
     
    Greetings from Sweden 
     
    Per Boysen 
    www.boysen.se (Swedish) 
    www.looproom.com (international) 
     
     
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    ----------MB_8C9E8731D4769FA_980_4208_WEBMAIL-MC21.sysops.aol.com-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 19:14:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B5AB3BEF7; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:14:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <380-2200710129191421829@M2W019.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: qua@oregon.com X-Originating-IP: 134.134.136.4 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "qua@oregon.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:14:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Core Sound hardware Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:14:24 +0000 (UTC) I've heard very good reviews from 'field recording' forums etc on the CoreSound products -Qua Original Message: ----------------- From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill rs@moinlabs=2Ede Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:39:11 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight=2Ecom Subject: Core Sound hardware Btw, if you are looking for a high-quality, portable micpre, these have gotten rave reviews: http://www=2Ecore-sound=2Ecom/Mic2496/1=2Ephp > These, I am assuming=2E=2E=2E >=20 > http://www=2Ecore-sound=2Ecom/mics=2Ehtml -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting=2Ecom - Premium Microsoft=AE Windows=AE and Linux web and applic= ation hosting - http://link=2Emyhosting=2Ecom/myhosting From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 19:16:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B41D3BEFF; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:16:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:16:32 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: FC-300 (was How to simulate a piano sustain pedal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <4ed36B.A.RpH.bGjJHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 19:16:43 +0000 (UTC) At 6:55 PM +0200 10/29/07, Sjaak wrote: >Thanks for all your replies. It appeared that the FCB1010 was too >big to fit under my synth stand; second: my supplier told me that a >lot of the FCB's have been returned within a year due to hardware >failures..... So I have decided to buy the Roland FC-300 > >First impression: >+ all pedals can be of type latch or momentary => piano sustain can >be programmed :) >+ good positioning of all pedals >+ good visibility of green and red LED's on stage >+ easy to progam, no manual needed >+ build like a tank => as the FC-200 I've got an FC-300 too, and this is a fine summary of many of its good points. Although you will probably need the manual to look up many of its more subtle functions. >- 1 global midi channel setting => it's not possible to store >different midi channel's with a pedal setting This is not correct at all. Ignore Standard and Control Modes (as well as Sysex Mode, unless you've got a VG-99). Those modes are worthless unless you want to dedicate the FC-300 to a single device, and I never even bother with them at all. The fourth Mode -- Patch Mode -- is where you want to be. In this Mode, the FC-300 will send MIDI messages to any MIDI channel, programmable per pedal. In fact, this is where the FC-300 gets over the MAJOR complaint I always had against the FCB-1010 (even though I've got one an FCB too): the expression pedals (not the switches) on the FCB could only ever be set to a single channel. So, for instance, you couldn't control Feedback on your Looper, then switch patches and use that same expression pedal to control, say, Filter Cutoff on a synth module. Not only can the FC-300 do that (I'm doing it with several different patches), but you can actually use a single pedal to control SIX different parameters simultaneously. These can each be on different MIDI channels if you like. You can not only scale the control range (parameter 1 may have a range of 0 - 127, while parameter 2 only has a range of 50 - 70), but you can also reverse the ranges of individual parameters (1 may have a range of 0 - 127, while 2 has a range of 127 - 0; accomplishing a nice little crossfade between sounds/effects, for instance). At Y2k7, for instance, I had programmed all the volume swells for the VG-99 into the right-most expression pedal (I could have easily done it by switching to SysEx Mode, but I wanted the convenience of staying in one Mode during the performance). The left expression pedal controlled a variety of different functions, depending upon patch: Feedback on my Looperlative channels; Volume of specific tracks; Feedback of the echo effect built into the VG; Speed of the Leslie effect on one Patch; Track Playback Speed on the LP-1; etc., etc., etc. I kept the CTL 1 & CTL 2 switches the same on every patch (Rec/Dub, and Stop Now;Erase) for purposes of consistency, but I could have programmed those for independent functions per patch. Likewise, I attached an FS-6 footswitch for CTL 3 & 4, and dedicated those to Previous Track and Next Track functions on the Looperlative. The individual patches cycled through a variety of functions too numerous to name here. You imagine it, and you can probably program it in Patch Mode on the FC-300. >- only 1 control message per pedal Again, not correct. In Patch Mode, you can actually send multiple messages to multiple channels (up to 6 messages, IIRC) on pedal press. In addition, you can send an additional 6 messages on pedal release. The pedal release messages can be programmed (per pedal) to fire off on either physical release (good for Note Off messages, so you can turn it into a set of MIDI bass pedals, or whatever etc.). Or they can be delayed until the next pedal is pressed, so that the release messages are fired off just prior to the next pedal's messages are sent. This latter function might be good, for instance, for setting up a series of chords that sound until the next "chord" pedal is pressed, at which time all the appropriate Note Off's are sent before the new chord's Note On's arrive). Look, even though I was extremely skeptical at first, this thing will in fact practically mow the lawn. It does everything except for "roll your own" SysEx (and it will do GM SysEx as well as NRPN stuff; you just can't program in an entire Hex String from scratch). That's something that I actually use pretty rarely these days anyway. I'm using it to replace my Digitech PMC-10, which is no longer being manufactured of course. That's how good it is. And at a price of only about $300, it's less costly than many of the other "full featured" MIDI pedals out on the market today (Ground Control Pro, etc.). Sjaak, dig a bit more into the programming on the FC-300. I'm confident that with a bit of work, you'll find most, if not all, of your misgivings will quickly evaporate. --m. -- _____ "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 20:26:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B271A3BEF0; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:26:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 392 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:26:53 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=pwVpbcOhULBsM/6AKIZIvo7Cx/gQRZxVwF4odBbb7k0=; b=N9tsuXhC8qyv7CsmPFqFjxyzZz+94PFWA/fmfAafmgnTPry/zWjzPy3zAHro94MCA3bLV6qhZ0jiifzPfz5cTB4kdzMEocd2zp93vEvMG8H4+hVo1RJqtwValbGPJmDhRAM9HSuwm3UOGKgVoJQ3KuPZA9Z43Hpln9J+cKgQMl4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=N9vwjGm9nCHLpsFfsSx2M61AL9VDX1rdTuk+E3+RlcCehP4m4T79VmIJ5dntSBF3IHysIfa7RYqZqNxVcYrSzyjZrXttRvNF1MpwZ3dtPJn5mJ3dbLdOsOAzb3wWjBqJCqFRdv6i6Zk4ILfBlVWoXf1ORyXGfp+k5AS48zd/29k= Message-ID: <2fb9e4730710291320q23ebf0c4o50df595509f71c8e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:20:20 -0400 From: "Clint Allen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT - Roland PK-5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9382_18348681.1193689220134" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75812 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 20:26:54 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_9382_18348681.1193689220134 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Greetings all.... Does anyone own/use the Roland PK-5? I am considering the purchase to use mainly as bass-synth pedals, perhaps occasionally to trigger a few drum machines as well. Pros? Cons? Any known, less-expensive alternatives? Any feedback would be great! Thanks, Clint Allen ------=_Part_9382_18348681.1193689220134 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Greetings all....
     
    Does anyone own/use the Roland PK-5? I am considering the purchase to use mainly as bass-synth pedals, perhaps occasionally to trigger a few drum machines as well. Pros? Cons? Any known, less-expensive alternatives?
     
    Any feedback would be great!
     
    Thanks,
     
    Clint Allen
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Try now! = --_d7535736-50aa-4204-b912-00444aeed324_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 21:02:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CD2D3BEF5; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:02:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=O7sBxgH7YSEbBcvF3QIWIiRZUeVudwIMikjXXI4ANdk=; b=rkzNCuXN+hY2+5ZbeoWDozbkGoPgg43AX1cXbrFdIAAGjnOqgktJSlRGlOtuP2poFD6nbm+Qp85WQ8eq34JmZgJJsWElHdPq/GOTYt0Qibkl5D0KYodPGIdsaRUWB0fOJ8JUtFV9+RcBxv8mJXhZP3Ji3INLhYbfx1bScoqbV7w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LO3B7R1DwZOBs3MZXMDpC/gmGHk3pY5J6E7xLNoAfCaWrCV2VsH2+SF9qaeI9rESoRTjjcRsZbk2w7KeYU5y+P/0fFzaDbkmobsJFbpKmaRnJ1NNl3fywphOMIPcIJDVvdJEdxnhF0zpW41vfaRmCU+ee0nBpDvp88CYI3aEYFA= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:01:58 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT - Roland PK-5 In-Reply-To: <2fb9e4730710291320q23ebf0c4o50df595509f71c8e@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <2fb9e4730710291320q23ebf0c4o50df595509f71c8e@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <27O-a.A.V-D.IpkJHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75814 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:02:00 +0000 (UTC) If you aren't in a big hurry, If you can find a Fast Forward Designs MIDIStep, it's similar. Not as full featured, but probably not $500 either. They pop up on ebay now and then. On 10/29/07, Clint Allen wrote: > Greetings all.... > > Does anyone own/use the Roland PK-5? I am considering the purchase to use > mainly as bass-synth pedals, perhaps occasionally to trigger a few drum > machines as well. Pros? Cons? Any known, less-expensive alternatives? > > Any feedback would be great! > > Thanks, > > Clint Allen -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 21:47:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FC953BEE2; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:47:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:47:13 UTC Message-ID: <20071029164030.urp55kkh1cwcs0kc@69.89.21.76> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:40:30 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: LoopersDelight Subject: new composition influenced by looping and some ramblings MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box76.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kevinkissinger.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:47:13 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I'd like to share my latest composition with you entitled "The Sad =20 Little Ghost". http://kevinkissinger.com/sadlittleghost.shtml This is the first non-looping work I've composed for nearly a year =20 however I think my work with live looping has influenced my non-looped =20 work in a few ways, namely: 1) the orchestral tracks are minimal and utilize repetition -- similar =20 to looped material 2) the lead (theremin) part is economical -- eschewing "fireworks" and =20 focusing on expressive sustained notes. I am grateful to the folks on the LD list for MANY ideas that have =20 become part of my musical vocabularly. A few recent examples: . in my organ improvisations I am much more inclined to play in a =20 "looped" style... while I am not looping via hardware I often build a =20 motive and then just keep it going in my left (or right) hand and then =20 weave melodies around it with my spare hand or feet. (I don't know if =20 the church I play at is ready for hardware looping... however I may =20 try it sometime **grins** ) . last Sunday, at the end of one improv, I played a single note melody =20 alone on a plantive stop... this was an idea suggested on the LD list. =20 And, why not? With loop devices we can turn one-note-a-time =20 instruments into ensembles. Why not do the opposite and play a =20 polyphonic instrument as if it is a mono instrument? Folks commented that my set at the Y2K7 Loopfest sounded "orchestral" =20 -- and I think that my interest in ensemble texture influenced that. =20 I have found over the last year that my looped and non-looped work =20 influence each other. The Y2K7 Loopfest was like a massive recharge to my musical batteries. =20 It was a chance to just sit back and soak up music from everyone. I =20 think the word "unique" is overused in the music biz however each set =20 WAS unique and each was high-quality. In particular, one of the challenges with looped music and with music =20 in general is to create effective endings. To see the different =20 approaches to this aspect of looping was enlightening, to say the =20 least. Incidentally, the ending to "The Sad Little Ghost" just flew =20 into my DAW ... no struggle. Forgive my rambling here. Though it has been a week since the =20 loopfest, I am still on a real "high" from it and look forward to =20 creating a lot of new looped and non-looped music as a result. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 21:58:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C9C53BEE8; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:58:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <380-2200710129215830189@M2W030.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: qua@oregon.com X-Originating-IP: 134.134.136.4 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "qua@oregon.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:58:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: new composition influenced by looping and some ramblings Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75816 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:58:32 +0000 (UTC) How beautiful and refreshing! despite the plaintif mood=2E Definitely can= see this as a movie score - as is - right out of your DAW=2E congratulatio= ns ! =20 -Qua -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link=2Email2web=2Ecom/mail2web From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 22:08:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6973A3BEEE; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20071029170845.0jolgelomc44gs0k@69.89.21.76> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:08:45 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K7 Movie References: <939C591B-F587-44CD-95C0-7D9373C12347@gmail.com> <8C9E8731D4769FA-980-2048@WEBMAIL-MC21.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8C9E8731D4769FA-980-2048@WEBMAIL-MC21.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box76.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kevinkissinger.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75817 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:08:48 +0000 (UTC) Same here... it isn't downloading for me. -- Kevin Quoting harryesq@aol.com: > Per - I'm trying to watch the .mov and it doesn't seem to be > downloading.? Is the link working?? Thanks, > > Harry From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 22:21:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CE9B3BEE0; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:21:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 715 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:21:48 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=/eXWmp/lxErtO2y/MfR4AyT542TRPJ1LbGlYI7y9UWs=; b=E/pQUlHkUdWSh6WKTIeF2vHazBxnNCVIwnT+PN2jDqz8Cz10KcHuKbMd4vFMPHFV1Y8uwYG45OOMqxO5TI4vjUZw7Soh9WBMXGhjAOf9GYmgKGw6LEznk1PglXRWZz7ZEzfMvdykmz/uLpa1WJ/r7qJ3WV/gkW+OtcZblAN2goI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=UEkIRBaRDZIRNak5WuTf3wjZ/Z90aOVviu64/gF3ap0ZWS6aTS8+aNo24nhrbl1+raFVgSoqPYzEsRSujh0cljk4Iyni8KQZahk1DRBE5307Y1mQ2UEM+2qV29LtiUO7r1ajuhuaII3L+9bcAHM3l0S1+mIJ0+nHoFo6h1Um0sQ= Message-ID: <4759e5740710291453v7b54d5bar5501d401fd656e04@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:53:13 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new composition influenced by looping and some ramblings In-Reply-To: <20071029164030.urp55kkh1cwcs0kc@69.89.21.76> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_905_16317008.1193694793180" References: <20071029164030.urp55kkh1cwcs0kc@69.89.21.76> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:21:49 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_905_16317008.1193694793180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline devastatingly beautiful kevin, thank you for that... Todd On 10/29/07, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > > Hi, > > I'd like to share my latest composition with you entitled "The Sad > Little Ghost". > > http://kevinkissinger.com/sadlittleghost.shtml > > This is the first non-looping work I've composed for nearly a year > however I think my work with live looping has influenced my non-looped > work in a few ways, namely: > > 1) the orchestral tracks are minimal and utilize repetition -- similar > to looped material > > 2) the lead (theremin) part is economical -- eschewing "fireworks" and > focusing on expressive sustained notes. > > I am grateful to the folks on the LD list for MANY ideas that have > become part of my musical vocabularly. A few recent examples: > > . in my organ improvisations I am much more inclined to play in a > "looped" style... while I am not looping via hardware I often build a > motive and then just keep it going in my left (or right) hand and then > weave melodies around it with my spare hand or feet. (I don't know if > the church I play at is ready for hardware looping... however I may > try it sometime **grins** ) > > . last Sunday, at the end of one improv, I played a single note melody > alone on a plantive stop... this was an idea suggested on the LD list. > And, why not? With loop devices we can turn one-note-a-time > instruments into ensembles. Why not do the opposite and play a > polyphonic instrument as if it is a mono instrument? > > Folks commented that my set at the Y2K7 Loopfest sounded "orchestral" > -- and I think that my interest in ensemble texture influenced that. > I have found over the last year that my looped and non-looped work > influence each other. > > The Y2K7 Loopfest was like a massive recharge to my musical batteries. > It was a chance to just sit back and soak up music from everyone. I > think the word "unique" is overused in the music biz however each set > WAS unique and each was high-quality. > > In particular, one of the challenges with looped music and with music > in general is to create effective endings. To see the different > approaches to this aspect of looping was enlightening, to say the > least. Incidentally, the ending to "The Sad Little Ghost" just flew > into my DAW ... no struggle. > > Forgive my rambling here. Though it has been a week since the > loopfest, I am still on a real "high" from it and look forward to > creating a lot of new looped and non-looped music as a result. > > -- Kevin > > -- http://www.toddreynolds.com |: http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic |: ------------------------------------------------------|: 917.576.6166 todd@toddreynolds.com toddreyn@gmail.com ------=_Part_905_16317008.1193694793180 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline devastatingly beautiful kevin, 

    thank you for that... 

    Todd

    On 10/29/07, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com <kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com> wrote:
    Hi,

    I'd like to share my latest composition with you entitled "The Sad
    Little Ghost".

    http://kevinkissinger.com/sadlittleghost.shtml

    This is the first non-looping work I've composed for nearly a year
    however I think my work with live looping has influenced my non-looped
    work in a few ways, namely:

    1) the orchestral tracks are minimal and utilize repetition -- similar
    to looped material

    2) the lead (theremin) part is economical -- eschewing "fireworks" and
    focusing on expressive sustained notes.

    I am grateful to the folks on the LD list for MANY ideas that have
    become part of my musical vocabularly.  A few recent examples:

    . in my organ improvisations I am much more inclined to play in a
    "looped" style... while I am not looping via hardware I often build a
    motive and then just keep it going in my left (or right) hand and then
    weave melodies around it with my spare hand or feet.  (I don't know if
    the church I play at is ready for hardware looping... however I may
    try it sometime  **grins** )

    . last Sunday, at the end of one improv, I played a single note melody
    alone on a plantive stop... this was an idea suggested on the LD list.
      And, why not?  With loop devices we can turn one-note-a-time
    instruments into ensembles.  Why not do the opposite and play a
    polyphonic instrument as if it is a mono instrument?

    Folks commented that my set at the Y2K7 Loopfest sounded "orchestral"
    -- and I think that my interest in ensemble texture influenced that.
    I have found over the last year that my looped and non-looped work
    influence each other.

    The Y2K7 Loopfest was like a massive recharge to my musical batteries.
      It was a chance to just sit back and soak up music from everyone.  I
    think the word "unique" is overused in the music biz however each set
    WAS unique and each was high-quality.

    In particular, one of the challenges with looped music and with music
    in general is to create effective endings.  To see the different
    approaches to this aspect of looping was enlightening, to say the
    least.   Incidentally, the ending to "The Sad Little Ghost" just flew
    into my DAW ... no struggle.

    Forgive my rambling here.  Though it has been a week since the
    loopfest, I am still on a real "high" from it and look forward to
    creating a lot of new looped and non-looped music as a result.

    -- Kevin




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    ------=_Part_905_16317008.1193694793180-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 22:34:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E865E3BEE1; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:34:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1193695145.472657a91e5fc@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:59:05 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new composition influenced by looping and some ramblings References: <20071029164030.urp55kkh1cwcs0kc@69.89.21.76> In-Reply-To: <20071029164030.urp55kkh1cwcs0kc@69.89.21.76> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 208.49.125.142 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75819 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:34:31 +0000 (UTC) Very nice Kev... :) Now, the real question is, would I have thought it was 'Elfman-esque', if I had not seen your comment regarding Nightmare before Christmas? hmmmm... peace -cpr Quoting kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com: > Hi, > > I'd like to share my latest composition with you entitled "The Sad > Little Ghost". > > http://kevinkissinger.com/sadlittleghost.shtml > > This is the first non-looping work I've composed for nearly a year > however I think my work with live looping has influenced my non-looped > work in a few ways, namely: > > 1) the orchestral tracks are minimal and utilize repetition -- similar > to looped material > > 2) the lead (theremin) part is economical -- eschewing "fireworks" and > focusing on expressive sustained notes. > > I am grateful to the folks on the LD list for MANY ideas that have > become part of my musical vocabularly. A few recent examples: > > . in my organ improvisations I am much more inclined to play in a > "looped" style... while I am not looping via hardware I often build a > motive and then just keep it going in my left (or right) hand and then > weave melodies around it with my spare hand or feet. (I don't know if > the church I play at is ready for hardware looping... however I may > try it sometime **grins** ) > > . last Sunday, at the end of one improv, I played a single note melody > alone on a plantive stop... this was an idea suggested on the LD list. > And, why not? With loop devices we can turn one-note-a-time > instruments into ensembles. Why not do the opposite and play a > polyphonic instrument as if it is a mono instrument? > > Folks commented that my set at the Y2K7 Loopfest sounded "orchestral" > -- and I think that my interest in ensemble texture influenced that. > I have found over the last year that my looped and non-looped work > influence each other. > > The Y2K7 Loopfest was like a massive recharge to my musical batteries. > It was a chance to just sit back and soak up music from everyone. I > think the word "unique" is overused in the music biz however each set > WAS unique and each was high-quality. > > In particular, one of the challenges with looped music and with music > in general is to create effective endings. To see the different > approaches to this aspect of looping was enlightening, to say the > least. Incidentally, the ending to "The Sad Little Ghost" just flew > into my DAW ... no struggle. > > Forgive my rambling here. Though it has been a week since the > loopfest, I am still on a real "high" from it and look forward to > creating a lot of new looped and non-looped music as a result. > > -- Kevin > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 22:38:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3902B3BEEE; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:38:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=ffbY+KnxegzVHpbSoE+9YV28DJYEqXV1E5DwfREY6yc=; b=Wv6UT4r1LmezqtZhNGcgVPrPnbEyngkFB8P9o2jqcHVXkU8lNL7+NyW4YYdRuxSsV8I1+ImJ3njftVMPGhwfiB9NsDQWDJeThHulnYEGPZhps6Qum6hwRjWepiy4wgLBZhqVyO59QrLopQZc5mmXxKFR8DKFx7WhVlqeaIwnLX4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Vdx6j1C3fn41ZxPa/jkludiMN7K31QQNzKgKosci+922Lb5VnkrqyEhmhOeeZKXS6Pt6Ijvm1Tls8Polah/5APLGENp3KvlM0ZHsjLKUzJnhC0I3yMKKqJRH5tiEJ1y0TFkx/Br3cArOMIDPmWSj5Fn82oBIe4/a7PkFI7RmmRc= Message-ID: <4759e5740710291509m2d7227bav2afdd152822dd034@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:09:50 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K7 Movie In-Reply-To: <20071029170845.0jolgelomc44gs0k@69.89.21.76> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_964_18963903.1193695790226" References: <939C591B-F587-44CD-95C0-7D9373C12347@gmail.com> <8C9E8731D4769FA-980-2048@WEBMAIL-MC21.sysops.aol.com> <20071029170845.0jolgelomc44gs0k@69.89.21.76> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:38:28 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_964_18963903.1193695790226 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline and for me, but third times the charm.. . maybe it'll get fixed! t. On 10/29/07, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > > Same here... it isn't downloading for me. > > -- Kevin > > Quoting harryesq@aol.com: > > > Per - I'm trying to watch the .mov and it doesn't seem to be > > downloading.? Is the link working?? Thanks, > > > > Harry > > > -- http://www.toddreynolds.com |: http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic |: ------------------------------------------------------|: 917.576.6166 todd@toddreynolds.com toddreyn@gmail.com ------=_Part_964_18963903.1193695790226 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline and for me, but third times the charm.. . maybe it'll get fixed!

    t.


    On 10/29/07, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com <kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com> wrote:
    Same here... it isn't downloading for me.

    -- Kevin

    Quoting harryesq@aol.com:

    > Per - I'm trying to watch the .mov and it doesn't seem to be
    > downloading.? Is the link working?? Thanks,
    >
    > Harry





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    917.576.6166                                              
    todd@toddreynolds.com
    toddreyn@gmail.com
    ------=_Part_964_18963903.1193695790226-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 22:39:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A56E3BEF3; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:39:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=q+SoF64fU1eYsN1bisuFe2EI1zbfuSqFF5iL40Ywf5E=; b=BhjUuVu/x5eQaN5lctJ7edQEWcpl5hlE3ymNVYxZixoAg1vgcHlXEy1TZMudO1TAzQoOqvHmWBL+51EgDnSMvh0G9oYlbi/zTlTuCIIKQXpu5/jHvndrp0HTHTpmSeLKp3v8v5oB7WyY6KuRovc/do1fsJt11THbeYBAncoVABQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=PCPKp3b/Qr+Fcu78UK6WR+lC3sTLUMZU6vXTuao+lM8z3/eizTuySUPEhjASMgBVtHfiZbJASKpxawK2dUas0HVwPhKK8X3jKTnh0bY/VKEiguSwI1cvVP9mnlC3UftYWQGFOaSHKhLPcuI9VboSdK3/6o45F16+xluGQb8X8jA= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:39:38 +0100 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: y2k7 mp3s In-Reply-To: <06fa01c81a3a$738069c0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1234_1740740.1193697578549" References: <000f01c81967$38fd0110$1001a8c0@succubus> <05b401c8199a$7b41ffc0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <060401c819dd$d5cc4520$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <06fa01c81a3a$738069c0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:39:40 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1234_1740740.1193697578549 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline They are far superior to the stereo mic that comes with the microtrack. Three stage available: Low Cost Binaurals, Core Sound Binaurals and High End Binaurals( with DPA capsules). All three can handle lots of sound pressure with minimum distortion. If you use the line input you could even input stronger signals, but better signal to noise ratio with the "plugin power" input of the microtrack. Also they can provide you with an adaptor/extension cable if you'd like to use the TSR 1/4 inputs. What Rainer says it's true. None of the preamps in the microtrack is suitable for 24bit recording. Even the LCB would be an step forward for your microtrack. My 2 cents. R. 2007/10/29, Krispen Hartung : > > These, I am assuming... > > http://www.core-sound.com/mics.html > > These little things can compare to high quality condensor mics? The beauty > of the microtrack recorder is that it has 1/4 inch balanced and phantom > powered mic inputs. So I am not limited to a stereo mini jack. > > Kris > > > On Oct 28, 2007, at 11:08 PM, Raul Bonell wrote: > > > >> Another option would be to get some tiny Core Sound Binaurals, > >> that are far bellow 1000$... > >> > > And I happen to have an extra set of these mics, if someone wants > to buy > > them. No clips on them, however. > > > > Jeff > > > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_1234_1740740.1193697578549 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline They are far superior to the stereo mic that comes with the microtrack.

    Three stage available:

    Low Cost Binaurals, Core Sound Binaurals and High End Binaurals( with DPA capsules).
    All three can handle lots of sound pressure with minimum distortion.

    If you use the line input you could even input stronger signals,
    but better signal to noise ratio with the "plugin power" input of the microtrack. Also they can provide you with an adaptor/extension cable if you'd like to use the TSR 1/4 inputs.

    What Rainer says it's true.
    None of the preamps in the microtrack is suitable for 24bit recording.

    Even the LCB  would be an step forward for your microtrack.

    My 2 cents.
    R.




    2007/10/29, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net>:
    These, I am assuming...

    http://www.core-sound.com/mics.html

    These little things can compare to high quality condensor mics? The beauty
    of the microtrack recorder is that it has 1/4 inch balanced and phantom
    powered mic inputs. So I am not limited to a stereo mini jack.

    Kris

    > On Oct 28, 2007, at 11:08 PM, Raul Bonell wrote:
    >
    >> Another option would be to get some tiny Core Sound Binaurals,
    >> that are far bellow 1000$...
    >>
    > And I happen to have an extra set of these mics, if someone wants to  buy
    > them. No clips on them, however.
    >
    > Jeff
    >




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    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_1234_1740740.1193697578549-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Oct 29 22:47:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27AE83BEF0; Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=sxZ+NFDXd+D5bzNakWmrJRry4y+8IeWScC6UlElTtZU=; b=QdBV8m+DqUeUBP5bip/ImmJMnUWqa5Xf3VRBTD+rYvDYw8C/YHRNvPUOn+8madev7cTzMg5f41WPkY2NHYujOOv+TkpdA1BUzr9+xqsGfYmp6WNJ4Tjx7cmnPr+3n5fzTntfsNNsfT9YVnca3qDot/175MIKm5dlig3bpCY7m9Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=LMqr+5LebCcNc0YLZEQhAxMndo9reFf7fqi33N66FxFmgyx0rAFwqRk/1lMs1iaIMukpztUTUW1TdofaBXE8Jc8XYa8yX6i6lA+tEcgnOW/LY17tuTh0v7hD3x9um9CgeEYECXjjwzmhjUADL02bKVFCdPw0u8W17N7dAgsOltw= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:46:58 +0100 From: "Raul Bonell" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Y2K7 Movie In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1268_5512272.1193698018361" References: <939C591B-F587-44CD-95C0-7D9373C12347@gmail.com> <8C9E8731D4769FA-980-2048@WEBMAIL-MC21.sysops.aol.com> <20071029170845.0jolgelomc44gs0k@69.89.21.76> <4759e5740710291509m2d7227bav2afdd152822dd034@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:47:00 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1268_5512272.1193698018361 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline From: Raul Bonell Date: 29/10/2007 23:46 Subject: Re: Y2K7 Movie To: todd@toddreynolds.com Hi Per, Just 441 KB here, not MB. R. 2007/10/29, todd reynolds : > > and for me, but third times the charm.. . maybe it'll get fixed! > t. > > > On 10/29/07, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com > wrote: > > > > Same here... it isn't downloading for me. > > > > -- Kevin > > > > Quoting harryesq@aol.com: > > > > > Per - I'm trying to watch the .mov and it doesn't seem to be > > > downloading.? Is the link working?? Thanks, > > > > > > Harry > > > > > > > > > -- > http://www.toddreynolds.com |: > http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic |: > ------------------------------------------------------|: > 917.576.6166 > todd@toddreynolds.com > toddreyn@gmail.com > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_1268_5512272.1193698018361 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline From: Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com>
    Date: 29/10/2007 23:46
    Subject: Re: Y2K7 Movie
    To: todd@toddreynolds.com

    Hi Per,

    Just 441 KB here, not MB.

    R.
    2007/10/29, todd reynolds < toddreyn@gmail.com>:
    and for me, but third times the charm.. . maybe it'll get fixed!

    t.


    On 10/29/07, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com <kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com> wrote:
    Same here... it isn't downloading for me.

    -- Kevin

    Quoting harryesq@aol.com:

    > Per - I'm trying to watch the .mov and it doesn't seem to be
    > downloading.? Is the link working?? Thanks,
    >
    > Harry





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    ------------------------------------------------------|:
    917.576.6166                                              
    todd@toddreynolds.com
    toddreyn@gmail.com



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    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
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    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_1268_5512272.1193698018361-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 00:07:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFF663BEEC; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 00:07:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=/gTlYGBgCYkkV4zxeKoDfwptnweJEbG78MNAEakgyv4=; b=dNBhY2pDiCuCE/EOti1IUBXoJaGpRr1qz+PpfsA0jQFCjpjKjllmouCgkfSrbKaEHbDwK71B9dNWmP9PgmA8+foVaPBvw0uR7R9Z5WydqI4KXxMT5A8Z6VO3NMgQLmGs1duxdNfwNqYsup3NeGqf/W8UwqPPL/+5iyhOiuEx7r4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ARp3N3dbVYu3u38U9m59kCpM3IpSt3GWUNtIMo6MpXnptIy0Q24DNbE8l89QcmiP9krh+nPmH5T4MaZLyQAO5ds9WvePG36fxagrWEBgZGmuDb6d7XQPgSvCWBw2xRYSRLH8bWQBRtdwtc10iIxxfq/BJq7pljZWDPuDBLNbAnc= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <939C591B-F587-44CD-95C0-7D9373C12347@gmail.com> <8C9E8731D4769FA-980-2048@WEBMAIL-MC21.sysops.aol.com> <20071029170845.0jolgelomc44gs0k@69.89.21.76> <4759e5740710291509m2d7227bav2afdd152822dd034@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Y2K7 Movie (mistake - correction at hand...) Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:07:44 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 00:07:51 +0000 (UTC) On 29 okt 2007, at 23.46, Raul Bonell wrote: > Hi Per, > > Just 441 KB here, not MB. You are correct. Sorry, Raul and everyone, my bad. I'm exporting both a proper .mov now and also an MPEG-4. Will upload in twenty five minutes. The little file I recently uploaded seems to be just a "blueprint file" that works on my system because I have all the source files here. Didn't know it worked like that, but now I at least learned something from that mistake ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 00:12:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0C7D3BEF6; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 00:12:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=0mdhLjSRT/A4oB7lNs1p+6KOUYo2x+JN2pJFE7mi1HA=; b=rYjKgCXBdU5NsRy836T3KLV3xy9kFkT9/GujD1Yyy1pIGHRnoWEDlxVjtSEavfbpAV0VYGA3S0CIe2d3+4/lRVPt7tZWNEYEgTIi3SyYLgCX3D0q9BBIz9EWtA+rU9ir2X4au5cb8AiHneFDMGoBsxkc305gAV1ZhJwfSny5lj8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=CMD5a1KC+W31Axz69vGAtOsLzkZUJw19w0djlSvlUSEpA3RkuzkQJGOSMCCEMT0304bLKKEZBQmwz0qbv9/MYKBwAEy5/7upQpy2dvOtk0hZJWerG/Sr/L9fd5OfujdFQGOMB8akS6otqCADx/uhtTfivIMpiPWLqubZACeczxk= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20071029164030.urp55kkh1cwcs0kc@69.89.21.76> References: <20071029164030.urp55kkh1cwcs0kc@69.89.21.76> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7F638F9A-D98E-4520-94A9-98BD2D396709@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: new composition influenced by looping and some ramblings Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:12:23 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 00:12:30 +0000 (UTC) On 29 okt 2007, at 22.40, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > I'd like to share my latest composition with you entitled "The Sad > Little Ghost". > > http://kevinkissinger.com/sadlittleghost.shtml Awesome, Kevin! Listening to it right now. Boy, I feel sorry for that little Ghost! Sounds so sad but beautiful. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 00:43:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F3513BEEC; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 00:43:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=x9p6cyodDyYHz1L9qAaXnypEaom+HmUwk3ogxiZ/Wu8=; b=OWiPlisegdtpw1QDQCplg5SXlg/VCkLTN/QVYk451iqUU61IY9d3O3pAfCvRZK5WapZZFUpZ7ULhsCZwExfHP8wpzAAcxzjTjauvjxRw78eHbBroV/aSrVEX1bxYSQvpy38sMLWsuQvbAq4I8yGbIfo4P7uLXJRNkKHc3R3RF1Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=XDHdnoerMBQlH5M5BcrFrmEvwCZq+oibwU4j1AUpZxUjcBugZEL/q7aVPI3H/BtKb3SPawFTUUom0W1NEpqF8b7G3LK5lzTGxp83Mt2cHPWBFQ/10deopgt/gM3W+WjYxlHg4T/uPEOE5goD27xonmFX0XHd5qq5kzqq2A8JPw4= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <939C591B-F587-44CD-95C0-7D9373C12347@gmail.com> <8C9E8731D4769FA-980-2048@WEBMAIL-MC21.sysops.aol.com> <20071029170845.0jolgelomc44gs0k@69.89.21.76> <4759e5740710291509m2d7227bav2afdd152822dd034@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6C523324-E1E7-4245-81C5-722CB265870B@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Y2K7 Movie - Corrected! Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:43:08 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <35w6n.A.a9H.m4nJHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 00:43:19 +0000 (UTC) Just uploaded a new 142 mb Qucktime file that should work fine. Sorry for the confusion. http://www.looproom.com/y2k7movie_pboy.mov Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 01:01:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCF2A3BEE1; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:01:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Y2K7 Movie - Corrected! Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 02:01:51 +0100 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000001c81a90$74a23760$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <6C523324-E1E7-4245-81C5-722CB265870B@gmail.com> Thread-Index: Acgajd4pJP5PQrpIRte6VidXkF9ihAAAfSFw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OId48Jj52A== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:01:24 +0000 (UTC) Outstanding, Per...gives me a kinda "wish I was there" feeling...note the FCB1010 in Rick's Garage. Mhmm, crap, it ceased downloading right before Rick would tell us the price of the all-new enhanced blinking drum chair model...;) What kind of cell phone did you use? Rainer > Just uploaded a new 142 mb Qucktime file that should work > fine. 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    ------=_Part_683_24915404.1193711187607-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 02:50:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A93DC3BEF3; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 02:50:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1044 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 02:50:09 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <26ba8d120710290022o798d2ca1gd4c11d2126e4900a@mail.gmail.com> References: <26ba8d120710290022o798d2ca1gd4c11d2126e4900a@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2F120849-B4AA-4096-A909-29B2DD9FAF88@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Teddy Kumpel Subject: Re: 10/29 (tonight!): Tom Swirly presents: The Illusion of Maya Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:32:39 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 02:50:10 +0000 (UTC) bummer... I can't make it Tom.... but keep sending these. I had a blast with you last time. Teddy On Oct 29, 2007, at 3:22 AM, Tom Ritchford wrote: > Hello, one and all, young and old, brave and bold friends, > acquaintances and people who's lists I'm on (and a special nod to the > looper's delight and open loop crew -- drop by to loop after > midnight!) > > > I've been planning this show for a while but this absolutely > exceptional location and evening just fell into my lap so I thought > I'd jump on it despite the very short notice (I just had the final > confirmation a few minutes ago). It's tonight but if we get any sort > of show at all we'll be able to do it repeatedly... > > Jump to the end for the skinny on the space. > > > Tom Swirly presents: > > The Illusion of Maya: > an avant-garde talk show and variety act. > featuring Maya Sky > with Tom Swirly playing himself > > "Under Maya's influence, the soul mistakenly identifies with the body" > > > On the bill: > > Tom Swirly and Maya Sky: 8:00 > Dr. Steam Whipple: 8:25 > Puppies Hold Hands: 8:50 > Han Tammen/Tom Shad/Joshua Fried trio: 9:15 > > -- ten minute break -- > > The Illusion: 10:05 > Joshua Fried's Radio Wonderland: 10:15 > Dan Jones: 10:50 > Kid Lucky: 11:20 > Sky and Swirly and the cast: 11:45 > > midnight and later: > open loop (all performers of all types) > > There will likely be dancers, including the illustrious Valmonte > Sprout. > > > Monday, October 29, 8PM sharp till late. > > at the basement of Lucky Cheng's > http://www.planetluckychengs.com/ > 24 1st Ave. between E1st and East 2nd. > > (Note that we will unfortunately not have many if any of the drag > queens in the basement part of the bar...) > > We'll be starting at 8 promptly. > > > Ask for the Early Bird Buyback special. > > First five guests get a free drink!!! (always tip your bartender!) > First ten guests get free admission!! > Next ten guests pay $3! > ... but only if you ask for it. > > Otherwise $5. > > (always $3 after midnight!) > > > Notes on the show: > > Maya hosts > The guests play music (or do other things but tonight it's all > music) > Tom interviews the guests > Maya and Tom play with the guests. > Repeat. > > > (My personal) notes on the performers: > > Maya is an illusion but will sing for you. > > Tom Swirly (open loop, Verge, etc) plays electronic wind instrument, > sings, manipulates machines, and does various other entertaining > activities. > > Dr. Steam Whipple will entertain you on the classical guitar. > > Puppies Hold Hands has Touching You (Liquid Tapedeck, Haunted Pussy, > etc) and Tom Swirly (henceforth TS), together again after almost five > years and a show that was raided by the police. > > Han Tammen plays endangered guitar. Tom Shad plays bass. Joshua > Fried plays...er... things. > > The Illusion may or may not appear. > > Dan Jones is the Welsh guitar wizard from open loop and TS's summer > street fair. > > Kid Lucky is the groundbreaking beatboxer. This marks his first > time on the same stage as TS since their a cappella hip hop duo > Volectrix self-released two CD titles in 2000. > > Valmonte Sprout is a home-grown mime/Butoh/performance dancer whose > dark, ritualistic show Node Be The Altas (with TS performing the > music) was one of the last things at the old Ludlow Collective: > Unconscious space. > > > Notes on the space: > > It's super-fantastic for the audience and performers alike. The > performance area is in the back, comfortable, nice big stage, good PA, > we can hardly go wrong. > > There's a nice bar area in the front separated by a hall from the > performance area so you can go away and chat and then come back and > watch again. > > Mind the step on the way in!! > > Patrick Bucklew (ex-Mo Pitkins) is manning the bar. He's a great > guy, a serious artist and performer himself, and very supportive of > our attempts. > > -- > > /t > > http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar > http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... > http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently) > -- PS. -- new videos of my hippy dippy dance trio weekly mister shifty -- Teddybut's song "My Country" is #546 on Neil Young's "LIVING WITH WAR TODAY" site -- visit teddybut on my space -- new teddybut cd "The Man" is available online at cd baby -- Teddybut- "The Man" is part of the rotation at Harris Radio -- Interviews -- http://www.teddybut.com Kumpelstiltskin Music, Inc. Brooklyn, NY "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." --Hunter S. Thompson From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 03:05:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A7DF3BEF0; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 03:05:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <078a01c81aa1$b9922a40$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <000f01c81967$38fd0110$1001a8c0@succubus> <05b401c8199a$7b41ffc0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <060401c819dd$d5cc4520$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <06fa01c81a3a$738069c0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: y2k7 mp3s Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:05:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0787_01C81A6F.6DEA41E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 03:05:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0787_01C81A6F.6DEA41E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What Rainer says it's true. None of the preamps in the microtrack is suitable for 24bit recording. ******************** Now, what exactly does the putative truth of this statement mean? = Suitable? :) Does this mean that the preamps can't pass through 24 bits = of data? That would seem like poor marketing (actually = mis-representation) on behalf of m-audio. Or does this it mean that the = preamps just can't compare, inn terms of fidelity, frequency response, = etc, to the preamps of a high end recorder preamps (based on frequency = analysis testing, etc)? =20 Kris : http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_NextPart_000_0787_01C81A6F.6DEA41E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    What Rainer says it's true.
    None of the preamps in the = microtrack is=20 suitable for 24bit recording.
    ********************
    Now, what exactly does = the putative truth of=20 this statement mean? Suitable? :)  Does this mean that the = preamps=20 can't pass through 24 bits of data? That would seem like poor marketing=20 (actually mis-representation) on behalf of m-audio. Or does this it mean = that=20 the preamps just can't compare, inn terms of fidelity, frequency = response, etc,=20  to the preamps of a high end recorder preamps (based on frequency = analysis=20 testing, etc)? 

    Kris

     
    :=20 http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_NextPart_000_0787_01C81A6F.6DEA41E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 03:37:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2D393BEE7; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 03:37:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <079401c81aa6$374e49b0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <939C591B-F587-44CD-95C0-7D9373C12347@gmail.com> <8C9E8731D4769FA-980-2048@WEBMAIL-MC21.sysops.aol.com> <20071029170845.0jolgelomc44gs0k@69.89.21.76> <4759e5740710291509m2d7227bav2afdd152822dd034@mail.gmail.com> <6C523324-E1E7-4245-81C5-722CB265870B@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Y2K7 Movie - Corrected! Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 21:37:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 03:37:38 +0000 (UTC) Lovely!! Thanks, Per. Great little production. Rick, your skit on the flashing chairs is hilarious. I'm glad you caught part of Chris Cohn' set....very trippy. ....great ending....sequel to a part II? Is that Van Halen's flange guitar intro to Unchained? :) Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 04:39:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C5683BEDD; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 04:39:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=4R2BfDthRt53sWF9u6mNstsENkDm+yELumncvcKTFIc=; b=MbKoNOMH7SFKNFID5w3DOOdR9te4e+CDL11RsBaZK/gdtgcrmSV8A20HXDKH1QFG+I6TVsMXHoLSGJe+6uFaDALnSR0hqNCTAQQpa+TAI9v9rJyQbQLMldDQSBjGDxp8aMkGRbUKVJ0ne7p7lYl1NeSlr8AjY5ulcoBvqQxQgeA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=AJicyZzZA1DkXhKKhiwMVUzyGK/LsDfA+tB1+ZGEHDRrjFZ2IUqDk+CiERrFzNRjeWogxYsgZIa/8DNiJ9mOtiTViYkAi00NW6/EEb8PDKpS2O/8141lV4RnbPtvkoWjrYmuyJHgNMQlqZqndpAg65EsEojPffePu5Z76qSUels= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 05:39:15 +0100 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: y2k7 mp3s In-Reply-To: <078a01c81aa1$b9922a40$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2279_16890924.1193719155600" References: <000f01c81967$38fd0110$1001a8c0@succubus> <05b401c8199a$7b41ffc0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <060401c819dd$d5cc4520$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <06fa01c81a3a$738069c0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <078a01c81aa1$b9922a40$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 04:39:17 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2279_16890924.1193719155600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Krispen! Hope your anxious asking finds a definitive answer in this link... tell us back! http://www.sonicstudios.com/mt2496rv.htm Kindly, Raul. 2007/10/30, Krispen Hartung : > > > What Rainer says it's true. > None of the preamps in the microtrack is suitable for 24bit recording. > ******************** > Now, what exactly does the putative truth of this statement mean? > Suitable? :) Does this mean that the preamps can't pass through 24 bits of > data? That would seem like poor marketing (actually mis-representation) on > behalf of m-audio. Or does this it mean that the preamps just can't compare, > inn terms of fidelity, frequency response, etc, to the preamps of a high > end recorder preamps (based on frequency analysis testing, etc)? > > Kris > > > > : http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_2279_16890924.1193719155600 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Krispen!

    Hope your anxious asking finds a definitive answer
    in this link... tell us back!

    http://www.sonicstudios.com/mt2496rv.htm

    Kindly,
    Raul.


    2007/10/30, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net>:

    What Rainer says it's true.
    None of the preamps in the microtrack is suitable for 24bit recording.
    ********************
    Now, what exactly does the putative truth of this statement mean? Suitable? :)  Does this mean that the preamps can't pass through 24 bits of data? That would seem like poor marketing (actually mis-representation) on behalf of m-audio. Or does this it mean that the preamps just can't compare, inn terms of fidelity, frequency response, etc,  to the preamps of a high end recorder preamps (based on frequency analysis testing, etc)? 

    Kris

     



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    The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_2279_16890924.1193719155600-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 05:43:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FD5F3BEE4; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 05:43:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=unU1SNfCKyK7/2hyM9w5SB0QcCSpmPzBPhFW1XC8kQQ=; b=ugWOZGBm8IDurG0+sUosW1re/5zWzK0TWb9AFoiCn63mCnioFnARm5sLeS/x1Qsc/IdqPf3ebRlR95XYsaLGZxDFb9m1ZavtgqMjkDMppyLoe4+7hZ4f1RmjjUFYvSWpDM2bRwe6azK2ety/ZdES5nSV/8FV63GnkFqoiIrCMJw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=mx9if0kreGnGXwuxsd3fhOTuR6V+mz36VQanjE1qCYOKBIwqVfIIWjmH+Q2EMDsSqza3WGAmxaiDS1pzyaACxB5gBvvMQCb4Cr27GK2d2NxOcV4ouKPwwGPm5BCIjBfEKOki3tmnkJBa2a00cuifiSP9tpzhHnqTJS+NMUoIGNo= Message-ID: <26ba8d120710292243pd4f3e2fob3d46df2899a96b9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:43:49 -0400 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 10/29 (tonight!): Tom Swirly presents: The Illusion of Maya In-Reply-To: <2F120849-B4AA-4096-A909-29B2DD9FAF88@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <26ba8d120710290022o798d2ca1gd4c11d2126e4900a@mail.gmail.com> <2F120849-B4AA-4096-A909-29B2DD9FAF88@mac.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 6b3a1b6a42b6faee Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 05:43:51 +0000 (UTC) Oh, it was SUCH a good show. We had a decent house and the music rocked. I think this is the first really good show I ever had in somewhat over 20 years of this. Another 20 years and I'll really be cooking with gas. I hope to do it every week. They loved us; the guy who brought us in got a little intoxicated and they had to close the bar :-( but we'll see. I don't think the tape came out but I'm still really happy! Thanks for your support. On 10/29/07, Teddy Kumpel wrote: > bummer... I can't make it Tom.... but keep sending these. I had a > blast with you last time. > > Teddy > > > On Oct 29, 2007, at 3:22 AM, Tom Ritchford wrote: > > > Hello, one and all, young and old, brave and bold friends, > > acquaintances and people who's lists I'm on (and a special nod to the > > looper's delight and open loop crew -- drop by to loop after > > midnight!) > > > > > > I've been planning this show for a while but this absolutely > > exceptional location and evening just fell into my lap so I thought > > I'd jump on it despite the very short notice (I just had the final > > confirmation a few minutes ago). It's tonight but if we get any sort > > of show at all we'll be able to do it repeatedly... > > > > Jump to the end for the skinny on the space. > > > > > > Tom Swirly presents: > > > > The Illusion of Maya: > > an avant-garde talk show and variety act. > > featuring Maya Sky > > with Tom Swirly playing himself > > > > "Under Maya's influence, the soul mistakenly identifies with the body" > > > > > > On the bill: > > > > Tom Swirly and Maya Sky: 8:00 > > Dr. Steam Whipple: 8:25 > > Puppies Hold Hands: 8:50 > > Han Tammen/Tom Shad/Joshua Fried trio: 9:15 > > > > -- ten minute break -- > > > > The Illusion: 10:05 > > Joshua Fried's Radio Wonderland: 10:15 > > Dan Jones: 10:50 > > Kid Lucky: 11:20 > > Sky and Swirly and the cast: 11:45 > > > > midnight and later: > > open loop (all performers of all types) > > > > There will likely be dancers, including the illustrious Valmonte > > Sprout. > > > > > > Monday, October 29, 8PM sharp till late. > > > > at the basement of Lucky Cheng's > > http://www.planetluckychengs.com/ > > 24 1st Ave. between E1st and East 2nd. > > > > (Note that we will unfortunately not have many if any of the drag > > queens in the basement part of the bar...) > > > > We'll be starting at 8 promptly. > > > > > > Ask for the Early Bird Buyback special. > > > > First five guests get a free drink!!! (always tip your bartender!) > > First ten guests get free admission!! > > Next ten guests pay $3! > > ... but only if you ask for it. > > > > Otherwise $5. > > > > (always $3 after midnight!) > > > > > > Notes on the show: > > > > Maya hosts > > The guests play music (or do other things but tonight it's all > > music) > > Tom interviews the guests > > Maya and Tom play with the guests. > > Repeat. > > > > > > (My personal) notes on the performers: > > > > Maya is an illusion but will sing for you. > > > > Tom Swirly (open loop, Verge, etc) plays electronic wind instrument, > > sings, manipulates machines, and does various other entertaining > > activities. > > > > Dr. Steam Whipple will entertain you on the classical guitar. > > > > Puppies Hold Hands has Touching You (Liquid Tapedeck, Haunted Pussy, > > etc) and Tom Swirly (henceforth TS), together again after almost five > > years and a show that was raided by the police. > > > > Han Tammen plays endangered guitar. Tom Shad plays bass. Joshua > > Fried plays...er... things. > > > > The Illusion may or may not appear. > > > > Dan Jones is the Welsh guitar wizard from open loop and TS's summer > > street fair. > > > > Kid Lucky is the groundbreaking beatboxer. This marks his first > > time on the same stage as TS since their a cappella hip hop duo > > Volectrix self-released two CD titles in 2000. > > > > Valmonte Sprout is a home-grown mime/Butoh/performance dancer whose > > dark, ritualistic show Node Be The Altas (with TS performing the > > music) was one of the last things at the old Ludlow Collective: > > Unconscious space. > > > > > > Notes on the space: > > > > It's super-fantastic for the audience and performers alike. The > > performance area is in the back, comfortable, nice big stage, good PA, > > we can hardly go wrong. > > > > There's a nice bar area in the front separated by a hall from the > > performance area so you can go away and chat and then come back and > > watch again. > > > > Mind the step on the way in!! > > > > Patrick Bucklew (ex-Mo Pitkins) is manning the bar. He's a great > > guy, a serious artist and performer himself, and very supportive of > > our attempts. > > > > -- > > > > /t > > > > http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar > > http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... > > http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently) > > > > -- > PS. > -- > new videos of my hippy dippy dance trio weekly > mister shifty > -- > Teddybut's song "My Country" is #546 on Neil Young's "LIVING WITH > WAR TODAY" site > -- > visit teddybut on my space > -- > new teddybut cd "The Man" is available online at > cd baby > -- > Teddybut- "The Man" is part of the rotation at > Harris Radio > -- > Interviews > -- > http://www.teddybut.com > Kumpelstiltskin Music, Inc. > Brooklyn, NY > > "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long > plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die > like dogs. There's also a negative side." > --Hunter S. Thompson > > > > -- /t http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 08:07:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A87FC3BED8; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:07:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 619702171-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.162.219 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj0KAAKDJkdPQqLb/2dsb2JhbACCKaUD Message-ID: <4726E67B.3010404@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:08:27 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: y2k7 mp3s References: <000f01c81967$38fd0110$1001a8c0@succubus> <05b401c8199a$7b41ffc0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <060401c819dd$d5cc4520$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <06fa01c81a3a$738069c0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75834 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 08:07:56 +0000 (UTC) Raul Bonell wrote: > They are far superior to the stereo mic that comes with the microtrack. The mic with the microtrack (at least the one I've seen) has 2 cardioid capsules at 180 degrees apart. That's only stereo in the the sense that it produces 2 channels that are different. Probably that explains Rainer's observation of stereo phase strangeness. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 09:56:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 744083BEE1; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:56:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <07ce01c81adb$18701de0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <000f01c81967$38fd0110$1001a8c0@succubus> <05b401c8199a$7b41ffc0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <060401c819dd$d5cc4520$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <06fa01c81a3a$738069c0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <078a01c81aa1$b9922a40$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: y2k7 mp3s Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 03:56:07 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_07CB_01C81AA8.CCD44370" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:56:10 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_07CB_01C81AA8.CCD44370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Excellent page, btw. Kris Hi Krispen! Hope your anxious asking finds a definitive answer in this link... tell us back! http://www.sonicstudios.com/mt2496rv.htm Kindly, Raul. 2007/10/30, Krispen Hartung : What Rainer says it's true. None of the preamps in the microtrack is suitable for 24bit = recording. ******************** Now, what exactly does the putative truth of this statement mean? = Suitable? :) Does this mean that the preamps can't pass through 24 bits = of data? That would seem like poor marketing (actually = mis-representation) on behalf of m-audio. Or does this it mean that the = preamps just can't compare, inn terms of fidelity, frequency response, = etc, to the preamps of a high end recorder preamps (based on frequency = analysis testing, etc)? =20 Kris =20 : http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra --=20 The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_NextPart_000_07CB_01C81AA8.CCD44370 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Excellent page, btw.
     
    Kris
     

     Hi=20 Krispen!

    Hope your anxious asking finds a definitive = answer
    in this=20 link... tell us back!

    http://www.sonicstudios= .com/mt2496rv.htm

    Kindly,
    Raul.


    2007/10/30, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net>:

    What Rainer says it's true.
    None of the preamps in the=20 microtrack is suitable for 24bit recording.
    ********************
    Now, what exactly does = the putative truth=20 of this statement mean? Suitable? :)  Does this mean that = the=20 preamps can't pass through 24 bits of data? That would seem like = poor=20 marketing (actually mis-representation) on behalf of m-audio. Or = does this=20 it mean that the preamps just can't compare, inn terms of fidelity,=20 frequency response, etc,  to the preamps of a high end recorder = preamps=20 (based on frequency analysis testing, etc)? 

    Kris

     


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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 13:50:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 382253BEE6; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:50:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=mrfE2Bd4mgnPZ6WifBWEhFIwVRSu/I+2jdYvc5cFxu0=; b=bsnNFYL+tzmklbdm8ns/1HXXHRlqkmSpNbVD5AM/KvRtOeOc1ysHv3Vc2oEpqGSVAoSkpWbwSeGl8dzR75F/bLEnyW0HAWNiO0wVaOHoq8vfKNpqyK+1/hWHSo0rV5lS1ScXMiypJyjLbo4WoAVyilLg9cXrRzPXS/qMR/qFros= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=gV9jlHw1mfsfHyAZTkUHNN7Wq8JVXVujrXrPxaVJ6uoT5BgxOl258wp8cZEQ9laChX50oWzzwYQcCR6L0EPF/JvwY/sa7rX1phM9aegEtet0h7EbAWdyhGBz9HNq7uQfW7337ZgzFYDgKSWFkpRJ8k+4NyQ9VknZDn2oEQYvKv4= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <000001c81a90$74a23760$1001a8c0@succubus> References: <000001c81a90$74a23760$1001a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <58D53660-A90E-4DC8-8AF9-C5A9B6F366BF@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: AW: Y2K7 Movie - Corrected! Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 14:50:06 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:50:13 +0000 (UTC) On 30 okt 2007, at 02.01, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > What kind of cell phone did you use? Will have a look... It says "Sony Eriksson" and over Bluetooth it displays as "z800". But the girl who gave it to me says the model is "z800i". But, as I state in the pre roll text, cell phone movie/picture/audio is rather crappy. Since I couldn't film myself I used Marc Hamburgs still photos for the clip when I'm playing (yes, I just remembered to add credits for Mark in the pre roll texts. Will upload corrected version as soon as it's rendered here). For me and Randolf Arriola I used Krispen's excellent stereo mic recording, which I actually like much better than any direct out tapped recording, because of the nice audio noise and whispering voices that got caught by the mics. The software used to make the film was iMovie, that comes bundled for free with any Mac. I did a little trick though. After assembling all films and pictures in iMovie I exported the stereo audio track as a 24 bit file. This audio file, containing the "film sync sound" was imported in Logic, where I goofed around a bit with reverb, eq, compression etc etc and also added Kris Hartung's venue recording and my own intro music. The audio mix I bounced from Logic was then imported back into iMovie and used instead of the first audio track (although as for the "sync sound" originally recorded by the Cell Phone it was the same material). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 16:27:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C24F03BEDD; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:27:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=AEVIkdfByYYiL2d1BvydXjWgeTaE6KxgkVqxAn+vbhQ=; b=AH69SDXO8R++/S9XruCO7KZJtgTzZAJ2ShHalsLiaKmSNKVL1dUemNjoALJwJNNU6MVF00QmVoGB+XZ5N4mMo7b2UQsOqI4DeTSoyvxQJNCYvFW1TJoGAmfe3vMwmoCvMsFjjEbHY5pS3zmi+F+PK66cHX3ejfOlY+BTazrK+V4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=cvQATJykk6LN8CpTKSo+ImBv3cCY26Xyzw33/rDQJa/PHYvC/DDSk3qluK2MBFgE4C04aOEPxrBjXIzhIJAZje9OFxFS3G3McdZb36MH2QeAA2Uskz5/kZnYMKN1A1CAGe8JNfUdEiSN3ThaONOZyXMDkU34oPyl6DOgakkdNv8= Message-ID: <9e0440a60710300927u2ee3c79br7e42768bffcdd442@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 12:27:26 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K7 Movie - Corrected! In-Reply-To: <6C523324-E1E7-4245-81C5-722CB265870B@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3210_24837187.1193761646282" References: <939C591B-F587-44CD-95C0-7D9373C12347@gmail.com> <8C9E8731D4769FA-980-2048@WEBMAIL-MC21.sysops.aol.com> <20071029170845.0jolgelomc44gs0k@69.89.21.76> <4759e5740710291509m2d7227bav2afdd152822dd034@mail.gmail.com> <6C523324-E1E7-4245-81C5-722CB265870B@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:27:27 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3210_24837187.1193761646282 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Per that's really cool documentary. It was such a whistle stop for our time at the fest that there was no time for the scenic side of Santa Cruz so this is very cool to see the beach and surrounding, reminds me of further north. Like your continuity and 'in the face' angles. It was very great to be part of this year's fest, bring the muse of Chinapainting and connect with folks like yourself from all over the planet. Good piece... Jim www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.jimgoodinmusic.com On 10/29/07, Per Boysen wrote: > > Just uploaded a new 142 mb Qucktime file that should work fine. Sorry > for the confusion. > http://www.looproom.com/y2k7movie_pboy.mov > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com Associates and friends on the web - Daryl Shawn - http://www.swanwelder.com Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com ------=_Part_3210_24837187.1193761646282 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

    Per that's really cool documentary.  It was such a whistle stop for our time at the fest that there was no time for the scenic side of Santa Cruz so this is very cool to see the beach and surrounding, reminds me of further north.  Like your continuity and 'in the face' angles.
     
    It was very great to be part of this year's fest, bring the muse of Chinapainting and connect with folks like yourself from all over the planet.
     
    Good piece...
     
    Jim


     
    On 10/29/07, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
    Just uploaded a new 142 mb Qucktime file that should work fine. Sorry
    for the confusion.
    http://www.looproom.com/y2k7movie_pboy.mov

    Greetings from Sweden

    Per Boysen
    www.boysen.se (Swedish)
    www.looproom.com (international)







    --
    The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
    MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
    Chinapainting -
    http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
    Chinapainting on My Space -
    http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
    The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
    Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com

    Associates and friends on the web -
    Daryl Shawn -
    http://www.swanwelder.com
    Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com
    John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com
    Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net
    Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com
    Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com
    New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com ------=_Part_3210_24837187.1193761646282-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 16:48:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D60453BEE8; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:48:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:48:08 +0200 Message-Id: Subject: Re: FC-300 (was How to simulate a piano sustain pedal) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:48:12 +0000 (UTC) > Mech wrote: > In fact, this is where the FC-300 gets over the MAJOR complaint I > always had against the FCB-1010 (even though I've got one an FCB > too): the expression pedals (not the switches) on the FCB could only > ever be set to a single channel. So, for instance, you couldn't > control Feedback on your Looper, then switch patches and use that > same expression pedal to control, say, Filter Cutoff on a synth > module. Thanks for the info. This means the RC-300 is much more powerfull then I = thought it was :) I checked the manual again (patch mode) and now I under= stand what you mean. > Not only can the FC-300 do that (I'm doing it with several different > patches), but you can actually use a single pedal to control SIX > different parameters simultaneously. These can each be on different > MIDI channels if you like. Wow...that's really interesting. I want something similar: assigning mult= iple control messages to a pedal and controlling different midi devices. = This is what you need when you are a live looper Question: I suppose I can send program changes from a remote device to se= lect a patch on the RC-300? Btw: it's not my intension to send program ch= anges from the RC-300 to the other midi devices. I use a central 8*8 midi= patchbay containing my midi setup per song of the setlist. Each song con= tains the required midi setup including program changes, midi re-channel = info, splits etc. > Sjaak, dig a bit more into the programming on the FC-300. I'm > confident that with a bit of work, you'll find most, if not all, of > your misgivings will quickly evaporate. You're 100% correct :) Thanks again for your help Sjaak =0A---=0AScarlet One, ADSL 6 Mbps + Telefonie, vanaf EUR 29,95...=0Ahttp:= //www.scarlet.be/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 16:49:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7F943BEF9; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:49:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003701c81b14$e3d593a0$7401a8c0@DTT60> From: "Dave Trenkel" To: References: <000f01c81967$38fd0110$1001a8c0@succubus> <05b401c8199a$7b41ffc0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <060401c819dd$d5cc4520$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <06fa01c81a3a$738069c0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <4726E67B.3010404@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: y2k7 mp3s Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:49:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:49:57 +0000 (UTC) I recently had a job doing a sound mix for a low-budget film. Much of the location sound and dialogue was recorded using a cheap stereo mic with 2 oposing capsules. When any of the tracks recorded with that mic were summed to mono, the phase cancellations resulted in about a 30db drop in overall volume, plus some really nasty EQ. Very annoying. ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 1:08 AM Subject: Re: y2k7 mp3s > > Raul Bonell wrote: >> They are far superior to the stereo mic that comes with the microtrack. > > The mic with the microtrack (at least the one I've seen) has 2 cardioid > capsules at 180 degrees apart. > That's only stereo in the the sense that it produces 2 channels that are > different. > > Probably that explains Rainer's observation of stereo phase strangeness. > > andy butler > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 17:19:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6D9E3BF04; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:19:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00ef01c81b18$5216f360$4001a8c0@pcfabio> Reply-To: "e t e r o g e n e o" From: "e t e r o g e n e o" To: References: <939C591B-F587-44CD-95C0-7D9373C12347@gmail.com> <8C9E8731D4769FA-980-2048@WEBMAIL-MC21.sysops.aol.com> <20071029170845.0jolgelomc44gs0k@69.89.21.76> <4759e5740710291509m2d7227bav2afdd152822dd034@mail.gmail.com> <6C523324-E1E7-4245-81C5-722CB265870B@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Y2K7 Movie - Corrected! Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:42:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Rating: smtp4.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:19:31 +0000 (UTC) Vey very nice, Per ! Good days... fabio www.eterogeneo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 1:43 AM Subject: Re: Y2K7 Movie - Corrected! > Just uploaded a new 142 mb Qucktime file that should work fine. Sorry for > the confusion. > http://www.looproom.com/y2k7movie_pboy.mov > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: > 269.15.13/1099 - Release Date: 30/10/2007 10.06 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 19:46:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF4623BECF; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:46:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <6C523324-E1E7-4245-81C5-722CB265870B@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Y2K7 Movie - Corrected! Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:45:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: <6C523324-E1E7-4245-81C5-722CB265870B@gmail.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 31361-BASIC Message-Id: <8C9E9448D26C864-D00-73E3@webmail-da07.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 205.188.212.202 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:46:08 +0000 (UTC) great movie per!!!!!.....i almost felt like i was there.....:).....michael http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ www.ct-collective.com -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Mon, Oct 29 8:43 PM Subject: Re: Y2K7 Movie - Corrected! Just uploaded a new 142 mb Qucktime file that should work fine. Sorry for the confusion. http://www.looproom.com/y2k7movie_pboy.mov Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 19:50:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 046443BED6; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:50:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=u1An38x6fy/lnGP2h+bTFUAAWlyztbgAGl7Um1MLiy4=; b=mBv76dXbnGry4U9OyI5b4B30qGRx/6nqfh6ZNaTwKgxxL4+QrqWXjafMEdAzp4jasuifn0LTV3NsmdRLi9hR0luSQuSbA3aoRZoVbFiGUCNBOv+67Spkm6hY4CUOPm2dnuwKHYNnASKaOYUcBViB8KKzMjJ3at+EnFmo9NCKc6g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=PuM8Fs/K969QN2QSlDPPFk5geQ2km5+Kdyvl7+2i52mGtECJbncWkthJBU6nZTE9zyUgdf7gA+0XPOSzldAXWlmiU3O+LWn6ZzvnS0dqsX3rbiCbV45p4lVsuKWfT97vtmsppizOgTmebDv/gURnokrsVZYfb2hDNdy4dEkbx08= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:50:50 +0100 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K7 Movie - Corrected! In-Reply-To: <8C9E9448D26C864-D00-73E3@webmail-da07.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2849_8388781.1193773850207" References: <6C523324-E1E7-4245-81C5-722CB265870B@gmail.com> <8C9E9448D26C864-D00-73E3@webmail-da07.sysops.aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: <-xVNxB.A.ly.ds4JHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:50:53 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2849_8388781.1193773850207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline holy s....! i love clips from my favourite rock stars!!! thx, R. 2007/10/30, nemoguitt@aol.com : > > great movie per!!!!!.....i almost felt like i was > there.....:).....michael > > > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 > http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ > www.ct-collective.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Per Boysen > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Mon, Oct 29 8:43 PM > Subject: Re: Y2K7 Movie - Corrected! > > Just uploaded a new 142 mb Qucktime file that should work fine. Sorry > for the confusion. > http://www.looproom.com/y2k7movie_pboy.mov > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - > http://mail.aol.com > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_2849_8388781.1193773850207 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline holy s....!
    i love clips from my favourite rock stars!!!

    thx,
    R.

    2007/10/30, nemoguitt@aol.com < nemoguitt@aol.com>:
    great movie per!!!!!.....i almost felt like i was
    there.....:).....michael


    http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10
    http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/
    www.ct-collective.com



    -----Original Message-----
    From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Sent: Mon, Oct 29  8:43 PM
    Subject: Re: Y2K7 Movie - Corrected!

    Just uploaded a new 142 mb Qucktime file that should work fine. Sorry
    for the confusion.
    http://www.looproom.com/y2k7movie_pboy.mov

    Greetings from Sweden

    Per Boysen
    www.boysen.se (Swedish)
    www.looproom.com (international)







    ________________________________________________________________________
    Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! -
    http://mail.aol.com




    --
    The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
    Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_2849_8388781.1193773850207-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 19:52:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B56A3BEF5; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:52:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=iDJjiAsmePmLAQDKEdTGL3LvRxUoHhRUt3BjlXFeg/E=; b=HdY7kgYbVIlTUVdlO5n85yxaSbsgdrA0NhbJI2LNpYw0HldjjwRPoxOk26V++N2U+HzJwyrvnkis+C9iwgggPVEHJT506YtTVMKckmeb4nB6SbVwvJmj/znrlFduRTZ1XFNfekp8Iq07p62fjw2Ensl4frkUF5aFffxOtDe4vRY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=tKNuzEqb2pEDR/Dazb+rP4U3V6qrEV685wmAVQEn0WXZHPslFsKJDAB98xEZtY8vg48Qdkohto9RPQuZE5GKOMaEmoP0QknlZDEUcMbc+mblc2t+TuV7d9FkpFg8azt44vH5XBV/rH7JY8EcoMOMeB+enHkaWfpm90/lQwWIv00= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <8C9E9448D26C864-D00-73E3@webmail-da07.sysops.aol.com> References: <6C523324-E1E7-4245-81C5-722CB265870B@gmail.com> <8C9E9448D26C864-D00-73E3@webmail-da07.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Y2K7 Movie - Corrected! Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:52:06 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:52:20 +0000 (UTC) On 30 okt 2007, at 20.45, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > great movie per!!!!!.....i almost felt like i was > there.....:).....michael Yep, I really like your presence in the scene were we are standing outside the venue. It's raining and you go "What's that? Cigarettes? What do they taste like?" And then, with borrowed cig nicely lit, you go "Boy-oh-boy... look at that!" regarding the wether. And then madman Kaiser comes running out into the pouring rain with a guitar strapped on. Crazy moment! I like the atmosphere in that moment, with Bill Walkers moody slide guitar fragments leaking out from inside. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 19:53:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5FDA3BEF0; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:53:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=cGu1iGqbpupotXbu4jkbXhbpStN5hweL3G/czT+1J+tkzfXT3AJypxrgvAcieI6mHzxf3M8jTOyeZrZy3xQfUxo9aMOfPpkprUMV2BElHykFRD2iE/Es5VD1DveHW2+miIt+9V+t0RALA6QM1qzlwAhz8hYmVLZqYT9cg/zUpfM=; X-YMail-OSG: cDn6hpUVM1moolSqgOf2GMXVXGyPzOCXUOGsQzv65qw2Ic4P5WwgJqmQIk3WN8CgZ8rvEGirNQeZi3doG6wgj_WFLraodp7gg2kJRKO9SZC8DQxA Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:53:28 +0100 (CET) From: rune fagereng Subject: re. Re: Y2K7 Movie - Corrected! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <6C523324-E1E7-4245-81C5-722CB265870B@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <121950.18186.qm@web26212.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:53:30 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! What a great little movie ! best - Rune F. Norway --- Per Boysen skrev: > Just uploaded a new 142 mb Qucktime file that should > work fine. Sorry > for the confusion. > http://www.looproom.com/y2k7movie_pboy.mov > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > > _________________________________________________________ Alt i ett. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 20:10:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F71F3BEB6; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:10:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:10:45 EDT Subject: y2k7 loopfest To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d4a.16246bc5.3458e9c5_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: <7ITyhB.A.Q4C.L_4JHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75845 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:10:52 +0000 (UTC) --part1_d4a.16246bc5.3458e9c5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit just got home late last nite.....BIG THANKS TO: THE WONDERFUL WALKERS who made me feel like family.....and to ALL OF THE KRAZY KATZ from all over the world.....what good clean fun!.....a fantastic effort by all!.....michael "raise em to eat em!".....scoots galore "THOUGHTS ON PETS" www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com --part1_d4a.16246bc5.3458e9c5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just got home late last nite.....BIG TH= ANKS TO: THE WONDERFUL WALKERS who made me feel like family.....and to ALL O= F THE KRAZY KATZ from all over the world.....what good clean fun!.....a fant= astic effort by all!.....michael




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    See what's=20= new at http://www.aol.com --part1_d4a.16246bc5.3458e9c5_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 21:01:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 474CF3BECF; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 401 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:01:38 UTC X-UNTD-OriginStamp: wE15mMxaCGdImpQmRPxb5Nk4aUBysFQhZxskJLcVwPe8gp5cyT5L/w== X-Originating-IP: [71.188.210.45] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Weg" Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 20:53:53 GMT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K7 Movie - Corrected! X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Message-Id: <20071030.165353.14888.0@webmail06.dca.untd.com> X-UOL-TAGLINE: true Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-ContentStamp: 2:1:709750476 X-MAIL-INFO:2a19e46485c99085ad90c99029013934f9a494a19424c4b9fdc4d4d5d59dfd71556d198084c9e40c1955a000298505f52020ed200510 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.171.12.146|webmail06.dca.untd.com|webmail06.dca.untd.com|theweg@netzero.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Very Nice Per, and all involved! Weg _____________________________________________________________ Click here for free information on earning a criminal justice degree tod= ay. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2211/fc/Ioyw6ijmiHZdcs2f8oNdFog7K= aTQc8JDueHNM96GcrHyOVKRz3mfIO/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 22:03:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC4203BECC; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:03:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight-d@loopers-delight.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:03:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: loop forum Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <4727AA23.21421.8C49C1@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20071030195054.98C123BEF4@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20071030195054.98C123BEF4@arsenic.violacea.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: <3HvkC.A.VOB.zo6JHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:03:31 +0000 (UTC) In my endless quest to find decent forum software that isn't wide open to spammers, I've set up the following http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com If you have e-time to spare, please consider joining. Please let's not start a long debate about the pros & cons of forums (forii?), just take or leave it. Bought myself a Redsound Cycloops - stereo sampling in a tiny package. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Oct 30 22:50:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67E163BEB8; Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:50:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4727AA23.21421.8C49C1@nick.12testing.net> References: <20071030195054.98C123BEF4@arsenic.violacea.com> <4727AA23.21421.8C49C1@nick.12testing.net> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:49:29 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: loop forum Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b57112023d77d086e0ba63f14b108ce56731ca957ed016dca5a8be0350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.253.94 Resent-Message-ID: <2pbyoB.A.sqG.nU7JHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:50:16 +0000 (UTC) Awesome, finally!! I'll see you all over there..!!! >In my endless quest to find decent forum software that isn't wide >open to spammers, I've set up the following > >http://loopingmusic.proboards99.com > >If you have e-time to spare, please consider joining. Please let's >not start a long debate about the pros & cons of forums (forii?), >just take or leave it. > >Bought myself a Redsound Cycloops - stereo sampling in a tiny >package. -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 01:56:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D6813BECA; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:56:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <089601c81b61$3eaad5a0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20071030195054.98C123BEF4@arsenic.violacea.com> <4727AA23.21421.8C49C1@nick.12testing.net> Subject: Re: loop forum Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:56:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 01:56:27 +0000 (UTC) Cool. How long do I have to wait for you to approve my membership? I get this after I setup an account, verify, and try to log in: Currently your account is waiting for approval from a staff member. Once an administrator has approved your account you will get access to this forum. Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 02:58:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A81B13BECD; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:58:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <023901c81b69$dc261b20$5901a8c0@bobdell> Reply-To: "Bob Amstadt" From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <20071030195054.98C123BEF4@arsenic.violacea.com> <4727AA23.21421.8C49C1@nick.12testing.net> <089601c81b61$3eaad5a0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: loop forum Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:58:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 02:58:23 +0000 (UTC) > Cool. How long do I have to wait for you to approve my membership? I've been waiting since this afternoon. Having to wait for approval may discourage people from joining. On the Looperlative forum, I ask people a simple question that has a simple answer that any looper would know. I have found this to be quite effective at stopping spammers from joining. Bob Amstadt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 03:00:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E0B3E3BECD; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:00:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 8901 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:00:09 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-735142036 Message-Id: From: Richard Sales Subject: AXON AX 100 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:31:46 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75851 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:00:09 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6-735142036 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed HI gang I'm sort of back! Have been busier than a whole colony of fleas on a burning cat! Just did a music video here at our farm this past weekend that was insane - 30 bicyclists, one authentic hippy VW bus, 11 member film crew, 4 band members. So question - have any of you used the AXON AX 100? Has anyone used it with an acoustic guitar? And do any of you know where to get PICKUPS - especially the hexaphonic pickup for acoustic guitars? I was given the AX 100 and it looks very cool. But it don't got no pickup! Argh!!! It looks really intriguing and I checked out videos of folks using it and it seems pretty stunning. Thanks in advance richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com --Apple-Mail-6-735142036 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII HI gang I'm sort of back! Have been busier than a whole colony of fleas on a burning cat! Just did a music video here at our farm this past weekend that was insane - 30 bicyclists, one authentic hippy VW bus, 11 member film crew, 4 band members. So question - have any of you used the AXON AX 100? Has anyone used it with an acoustic guitar? And do any of you know where to get PICKUPS - especially the hexaphonic pickup for acoustic guitars? I was given the AX 100 and it looks very cool. But it don't got no pickup! Argh!!! It looks really intriguing and I checked out videos of folks using it and it seems pretty stunning. Thanks in advance Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com --Apple-Mail-6-735142036-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 03:53:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07FF43BECD; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:53:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1817 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:53:47 UTC X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:23:22 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re: AXON AX 100 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_7648750==.ALT" Message-Id: <20071031032328.A82D024FEF@ns3.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:53:47 +0000 (UTC) --=====================_7648750==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hey Richard, I'm pretty sure you could get one through Long & McQuade there's one in Victoria, two or three in Vancouver and a few more scattered across the province. Paul haslem At 07:31 PM 10/30/2007, you wrote: >HI gang > >I'm sort of back! Have been busier than a whole colony of fleas on >a burning cat! > >Just did a music video here at our farm this past weekend that was >insane - 30 bicyclists, one authentic hippy VW bus, 11 member film >crew, 4 band members. > >So question - have any of you used the AXON AX 100? Has anyone used >it with an acoustic guitar? And do any of you know where to get >PICKUPS - especially the hexaphonic pickup for acoustic guitars? I >was given the AX 100 and it looks very cool. But it don't got no >pickup! Argh!!! It looks really intriguing and I checked out >videos of folks using it and it seems pretty stunning. > >Thanks in advance >richard sales >glassWing farm and studio >vancouver island, b.c. >800.545.6846 >250.752.4816 >www.glassWing.com >www.richardsales.com >www.hayleysales.com >www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com > > --=====================_7648750==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Hey Richard,

    I'm pretty sure you could get one through Long & McQuade there's one in Victoria, two or three in Vancouver and a few more scattered across the province.

    Paul haslem


    At 07:31 PM 10/30/2007, you wrote:
    HI gang

    I'm sort of back!  Have been busier than a whole colony of fleas on a burning cat! 

    Just did a music video here at our farm this past weekend that was insane - 30 bicyclists, one authentic hippy VW bus, 11 member film crew, 4 band members. 

    So question - have any of you used the AXON AX 100?  Has anyone used it with an acoustic guitar?  And do any of you know where to get PICKUPS - especially the hexaphonic pickup for acoustic guitars?  I was given the AX 100 and it looks very cool.  But it don't got no pickup!  Argh!!!   It looks really intriguing and I checked out videos of folks using it and it seems pretty stunning.

    Thanks in advance
    richard sales
    glassWing farm and studio
    vancouver island, b.c.
    800.545.6846
    250.752.4816
    www.glassWing.com
    www.richardsales.com
    www.hayleysales.com
    www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com

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    --=====================_7648750==.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 03:57:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F9473BEB9; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:57:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 403 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:57:10 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=x2wrLUzOde4OWdwIMhUrDLGWqBQBW4v11j6ucsZ7L6E=; b=EVIfqhm7szW6rDUJnrb9/BnPhx37OjdiuJs9xKZrYuPSHxw1fZsxVZOF4GIwYTnJgiNFgoqaPxm7bGB5sxA/VBcAyfZ4bWrUNTaXt0uZWWQ4b37VMPj8cEFXi9ySgKZHkbruWVJJCX22kADjEP/woBL/MILEtJkXv5LPfxxsE5Y= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; b=Nv+dAbk5IbkJIcFXjMZ9hxq2huwIIyuzVAPgccxruMmX1sfCgIHj4sfyd+afQ+2c4xO+zoS8tOmjFr4xRnGfpKod9qvKvn4QcY8HzXWJLc86dA+OyF9I75oT/PpZyVVWfFJ9q7ycwnh1dqui5g7PhYlF1fKxzT/sEnDU7vVjdsY= From: "Tony K" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: AXON AX 100 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 23:50:27 -0500 Message-ID: <009701c81b79$90cee4d0$b26cae70$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0098_01C81B4F.A7F8DCD0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acgbai+mN4qF3nNvTGymyiKYABTeEwADqmmA Content-Language: en-us Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 03:57:11 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01C81B4F.A7F8DCD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wish someone would give ME a $700 guitar synth! J A Roland GK pickup will work. HYPERLINK "http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Roland-GK3-Guitar-Pickup?sku=700379" http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Roland-GK3-Guitar-Pickup?sku=700379 Or watch EBay. >From most accounts the Axon is an excellent unit. Better tracking than the Rolands. Tony From: Richard Sales [mailto:richard@glasswing.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:32 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: AXON AX 100 HI gang I'm sort of back! Have been busier than a whole colony of fleas on a burning cat! Just did a music video here at our farm this past weekend that was insane - 30 bicyclists, one authentic hippy VW bus, 11 member film crew, 4 band members. So question - have any of you used the AXON AX 100? Has anyone used it with an acoustic guitar? And do any of you know where to get PICKUPS - especially the hexaphonic pickup for acoustic guitars? I was given the AX 100 and it looks very cool. But it don't got no pickup! Argh!!! It looks really intriguing and I checked out videos of folks using it and it seems pretty stunning. Thanks in advance richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.13/1099 - Release Date: 10/30/2007 10:06 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.13/1099 - Release Date: 10/30/2007 10:06 AM ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01C81B4F.A7F8DCD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    I wish someone would give ME a $700 guitar synth! = J

     

    A Roland GK pickup will work.  =

    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Roland-GK3-Guitar-Pic= kup?sku=3D700379

     

    Or watch EBay.

     

    From most accounts the Axon is an excellent unit.  = Better tracking than the Rolands. 

     

    Tony

     

    From:= Richard = Sales [mailto:richard@glasswing.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:32 PM
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject: AXON AX 100

     

    HI gang

    I'm sort of back! Have been busier than a whole colony of fleas on a = burning cat!

    Just did a music video here at our farm this past weekend that was = insane - 30 bicyclists, one authentic hippy VW bus, 11 member film crew, 4 band = members.

    So question - have any of you used the AXON AX 100? Has anyone used it = with an acoustic guitar? And do any of you know where to get PICKUPS - = especially the hexaphonic pickup for acoustic guitars? I was given the AX 100 and it = looks very cool. But it don't got no pickup! Argh!!! It looks really = intriguing and I checked out videos of folks using it and it seems pretty stunning.

    Thanks in advance
    richard sales
    glassWing farm and studio
    vancouver island, b.c.
    800.545.6846
    250.752.4816
    www.glassWing.com
    www.richardsales.com
    www.hayleysales.com
    www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com

    No virus found in this incoming = message.
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    ------=_NextPart_000_0098_01C81B4F.A7F8DCD0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 04:06:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 19B3E3BEB6; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 04:06:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <009701c81b79$90cee4d0$b26cae70$@com> References: <009701c81b79$90cee4d0$b26cae70$@com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-748019539 Message-Id: From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: AXON AX 100 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 21:06:24 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 04:06:25 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-748019539 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed well if I don't have any luck Tony... But yeah... I've read (since sending my question to you) the GK 3 from =20= Roland is good. And thanks Paul. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 30-Oct-07, at 9:50 PM, Tony K wrote: > I wish someone would give ME a $700 guitar synth! J > =A0 > A Roland GK pickup will work.=A0 > http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Roland-GK3-Guitar-Pickup?=20 > sku=3D700379 > =A0 > Or watch EBay. > =A0 > =46rom most accounts the Axon is an excellent unit.=A0 Better tracking = =20 > than the Rolands.=A0 > =A0 > Tony > =A0 > From: Richard Sales [mailto:richard@glasswing.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:32 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: AXON AX 100 > =A0 > > HI gang > > I'm sort of back! Have been busier than a whole colony of fleas on a =20= > burning cat! > > Just did a music video here at our farm this past weekend that was =20= > insane - 30 bicyclists, one authentic hippy VW bus, 11 member film =20 > crew, 4 band members. > > So question - have any of you used the AXON AX 100? Has anyone used =20= > it with an acoustic guitar? And do any of you know where to get =20 > PICKUPS - especially the hexaphonic pickup for acoustic guitars? I was = =20 > given the AX 100 and it looks very cool. But it don't got no pickup! =20= > Argh!!! It looks really intriguing and I checked out videos of folks =20= > using it and it seems pretty stunning. > > Thanks in advance > richard sales > glassWing farm and studio > vancouver island, b.c. > 800.545.6846 > 250.752.4816 > www.glassWing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com > www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.13/1099 - Release Date: =20 > 10/30/2007 10:06 AM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.13/1099 - Release Date: =20 > 10/30/2007 10:06 AM --Apple-Mail-2-748019539 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 well if I don't have any luck Tony... But yeah... I've read (since sending my question to you) the GK 3 from Roland is good. And thanks Paul. =20 Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 30-Oct-07, at 9:50 PM, Tony K wrote: 1F1F,4949,7D7DI wish someone would give ME a $700 guitar synth! = J = 1F1F,4949,7D7D=A0 1F1F,4949,7D7DA Roland GK pickup will work.=A0 = 0000,0000,FFFFhttp://www.music= iansfriend.com/product/Roland-GK3-Guitar-Pickup?sku=3D700379 = 1F1F,4949,7D7D=A0 1F1F,4949,7D7DOr watch EBay. = 1F1F,4949,7D7D=A0 1F1F,4949,7D7D=46rom most accounts the Axon is an excellent unit.=A0 Better tracking than the Rolands.=A0 = 1F1F,4949,7D7D=A0 = 1F1F,4949,7D7DTony = 1F1F,4949,7D7D=A0 From: Richard Sales [mailto:richard@glasswing.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:32 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: AXON AX 100 Times New = Roman=A0 Times New RomanHI = gang Times New Roman I'm sort of back! Have been busier than a whole colony of fleas on a burning cat! = Times New Roman Just did a music video here at our farm this past weekend that was insane - 30 bicyclists, one authentic hippy VW bus, 11 member film crew, 4 band members. Times New Roman So question - have any of you used the AXON AX 100? Has anyone used it with an acoustic guitar? And do any of you know where to get PICKUPS - especially the hexaphonic pickup for acoustic guitars? I was given the AX 100 and it looks very cool. But it don't got no pickup! Argh!!! It looks really intriguing and I checked out videos of folks using it and it seems pretty stunning. Times New Roman Thanks in advance Times New Roman richard sales Times New Roman glassWing farm and studio Times New Roman vancouver island, b.c. Times New Roman = 800.545.6846 Times New Roman = 250.752.4816 Times New Roman www.glassWing.com Times New Roman www.richardsales.com Times New Roman www.hayleysales.com Times New Roman www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com Times New RomanNo virus found in this incoming message. Times New Roman Checked by AVG Free Edition. Times New Roman Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.13/1099 - Release Date: 10/30/2007 10:06 AM Times New RomanNo virus found in this outgoing message. Times New Roman Checked by AVG Free Edition. Times New Roman Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.13/1099 - Release Date: 10/30/2007 10:06 = AM = --Apple-Mail-2-748019539-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 09:15:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 073AB3BEB6; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:15:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 620188057-mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.245.163 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4HACblJ0dPQvWj/2dsb2JhbACCKY4Ll2c Message-ID: <472847E4.6010006@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:16:20 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AXON AX 100 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-6uw6B.A.v5E.JfEKHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75855 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:15:53 +0000 (UTC) Richard Sales wrote: > So question - have any of you used the AXON AX 100? Has anyone used it > with an acoustic guitar? And do any of you know where to get PICKUPS - > especially the hexaphonic pickup for acoustic guitars? I was given the > AX 100 and it looks very cool. But it don't got no pickup! Argh!!! It Hi Richard, probably the Roland p/u is your best bet, but check that the string spacing lines up first. You could check out the Graptech Ghost system http://www.graphtech.com/ ...but I think that would need guitar surgery. Terratec market their own p/u, but don't make any claims about it being better than the Roland. General consensus is that the AX100 onboards sounds aren't up to much, so you might want to think about some kind of synth. (It's essentially a wavetable pc soundcard, the default piano sound is not so bad if you can stand digital piano, but otherwise think 80's General Midi) Of course, if you want to plug in a laptop an run some soft synths using Bidule then you're going to enjoy yourself. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 09:54:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3B423BECC; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:54:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 400 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:54:49 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=y3VPG0mz3Ykkcb8wezgG91MNJkW9e2mHPuN7kAoI4sQf48mxULsVQlMaJ/RlgYyJ1fom+8EdEYaGJZ35u+7P8ibm5S488+ynpPE/xr8PvzSnnnS+3qYiF0Lz4IolnE9eix2wBBJJ9v+YA4AqgCsG/HIftb4De20eUH9o7ay0ZG0= ; X-YMail-OSG: wp0yOLMVM1nl.zPyTkNBnD8mGCoIZIrR065.pzY2Oexy3.Md_VFLqiGSJ1BBMgQ7vv5vbVyuN9IRgU2HXnodBaXUscpsZqgk8VartcG1wGZZrRdqqGc- Message-ID: <009d01c81ba3$23aa1f30$6502a8c0@RUELLE> From: "Ben" To: Subject: OT: Kaoss Pad V2.0 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:48:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <-jlbJC.A.EX.qDFKHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:54:50 +0000 (UTC) Sorry for this OT subject but I know some on this list use the KP3. Only available in Japan for now, if someone have more info or can transalte from japanese to english Here : http://www.korg.co.jp/Product/Dance/KP3/v2.html - Polyphonic Sample Edit Mode - New Sample Playback Trigger Gating Options - New Loop Type Option Ben. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 12:50:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4460F3BED2; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "nick@12testing.net" To: "Krispen Hartung" , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:50:01 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: loop forum Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <472879F9.16373.72EE0E@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <089601c81b61$3eaad5a0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <089601c81b61$3eaad5a0$32b3ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 12:50:17 +0000 (UTC) On 30 Oct 2007 at 19:56, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Cool. How long do I have to wait for you to approve my membership? I just check the likelihood that it's a spoof reg, probably twice a day. Having had so many problems, especially from russia, on my last forum, I chose this 'cos it's slightly tighter. However, if people are itching to join, that means they're also itching to contribute, so perhaps no bad thing ;) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 13:12:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96FA73BEB9; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:12:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:11:54 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re: AXON AX 100 In-Reply-To: <472847E4.6010006@tiscali.co.uk> References: <472847E4.6010006@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20071031131200.912C614D55@ns4.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0rcqU.A.OJD.k8HKHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:12:04 +0000 (UTC) Hi Richard, I don't have any experience with the gk3 pickup but I did play around with a gk2 for a while on my Taylor. Generally I found the tracking wasn't real good until I switched strings to nickle wound strings. The pickup just didn't seem to like the ph. bronze acoustic strings at all. After using that for nearly a year I got an inexpensive electric (a used Parker p44 about 450.00) and put a Graphtech Ghost system (about 650.00) in it. Wow, an amazing difference! The pickup system cost me more than the guitar did but was well worth it! Since that experiment I've now built a small bodied electric with no mag pickups but just the Graphtech ghost pickups and a fan fret neck. Very happy with it. Graphtech is located in Vancouver and very nice folks to talk to. I'm sure they'd talk to you about your options. I'll part with the Parker if anyone is interested........ Paul Haslem At 04:16 AM 10/31/2007, you wrote: >Richard Sales wrote: > >>So question - have any of you used the AXON AX 100? Has anyone used >>it with an acoustic guitar? And do any of you know where to get >>PICKUPS - especially the hexaphonic pickup for acoustic guitars? I >>was given the AX 100 and it looks very cool. But it don't got no >>pickup! Argh!!! It > >Hi Richard, >probably the Roland p/u is your best bet, >but check that the string spacing lines up first. > >You could check out the Graptech Ghost system > >http://www.graphtech.com/ > >...but I think that would need guitar surgery. > >Terratec market their own p/u, but don't make any claims about it >being better than the Roland. > >General consensus is that the AX100 onboards sounds aren't up to much, >so you might want to think about some kind of synth. >(It's essentially a wavetable pc soundcard, the default piano sound >is not so bad if you can stand digital piano, but otherwise think >80's General Midi) >Of course, if you want to plug in a laptop an run some soft synths >using Bidule >then you're going to enjoy yourself. > > >andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 13:15:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCF713BED8; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 724 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:15:03 UTC X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: AXON AX 100 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:03:01 -0400 Message-ID: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD08238E2E73@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> In-Reply-To: <009701c81b79$90cee4d0$b26cae70$@com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: AXON AX 100 Thread-Index: AcgbvlvJy7W2B+A/RzOeT94IGzzKBQ== References: <009701c81b79$90cee4d0$b26cae70$@com> From: "Dean, Hal " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2007 13:03:01.0373 (UTC) FILETIME=[5DEEDAD0:01C81BBE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75859 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:15:03 +0000 (UTC) Richard,=20 =20 While there are those who argue that tracking with the Roland GK system is good, they are a distinct minority; I am not among them. The majority opinion, by far, is that either the RMC system or GraphTech's Ghost system are far superior in terms of tracking and accuracy. Both operate on the same principle - piezo saddle pickups that feed into a "translator" module. The RMC system has been used in Godin's MIDI-ready guitars, such as the Multiac and LGXT, for years. I have both those guitars as well as an RMC-equipped classical guitar I had made. =20 I am currently researching how to install a MIDI pickup system in a Paul Reed Smith Archtop (which BTW I bought from Kris Hartung) and find that Ghost may be more suitable in this instrument, for reasons I won't go into here. In the course of researching this I've seen comments on the midiguitar forum to the effect that the build quality, specifically connectors, and balance are not as good with Ghost; supposedly, both these issues can be overcome with some careful installation techniques. =20 Both RMC and Ghost systems will be costlier than the Roland system. Both can also provide a nice piezoelectric sound to blend with any pickups you have already. The Godin Multiac is a great acoustic guitar with just the piezo sound, and the MIDI capability. I will miss mine when I sell it - which I need to do to make up for buying the PRS! =20 I would love to have an Axon. I have an older Roland GI-10. Everyone that has used the Axon and the Roland GI-10 or -20 says the Axon is better. You certainly have that part of the signal chain well covered. =20 Take a look at http://www.graphtech.com/ghost_info.php and http://www.rmcpickup.com/.=20 =20 OT- Am I remembering you are the guy who knew Stanley Whitaker? Hal Dean ________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 13:41:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 981173BED6; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:41:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=azqNq4tkIm5MMMT0HmNhWIk9DPQ/lI+FTRTWFlJgOx4D+Oujm8a02UJ7MVu6Y+ps8zbsvipakdZ8NWGmlB39y+mEWkis1xlocZn+XZJGyNVy61LbnduyyPHMX3gSs8gAf2F8le5bN2CjouzQZQL+RSAewSJHP3O70ITHq4z4te8=; X-YMail-OSG: sOket4UVM1loGalqRKldSwYCcaqnpU3kW6KPA4zFBt77hm0aZtG9NlDMYyrEPMWLqD5oopf9m1BqqQucKS3hFw0b4ypDKwQIFnGGsXe79TF1QM6tQ4c- Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 06:41:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Subject: Re: AXON AX 100 To: richard@glasswing.com, Brian Good In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <934872.41786.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:41:52 +0000 (UTC) Richard!!! Good to hear your back it sounds like you been having fun, I wish I could say the same. Anyway my teacher/luthier masters especially William Eaton is requested by companies especially Roland to test their prototypes of all kinds of electronic equipment. I do not know for sure if he is on tour right now but I would recommend you contact him through Roberto-Venn. He usually designs the instruments around the technology, or viceversa. One of the most amazing and seemingly unique human beings I have ever met. Very personable and sweet at the same time he helped me a great deal to get through some of the most challenging times of my life back in 1999 through 2000!!! Do you and Haley have any different websites I can link up for yall at myspace.com/albertiniguitarworks? Im trying to get a couple more projects off the ground I have a few more live performances on the radio stations around here in the four state Area and in Pittsburg soon. I will be playing solo and or with new experiment in the works "Eagle Dawn" set drummer/manager website consultant/very good friend Wade Heilig and percussionist extraordinaire Daniel Warlop Pittsburg State University Gorilla Radio. Send me your PSA's & I will try to get them some air time for you all and Haley! I also have been coming across a lot of random equipment through the interchange of musicians friend warehouses so let me know if their is anything else to keep an eye out for in the various piles of electronic and wood rubble? ha ha lol!!! Its all good :o) Wish you and yours blessings of wellness/health, harmony, peace, prosperity, wisdom, love and joy Sincerely your friend Daniel T. Albertini myspace.com/albertiniguitarworks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 13:51:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D508A3BED6; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:51:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:51:03 +0100 From: "nico spahni" In-Reply-To: <20071031131200.912C614D55@ns4.tnt21.com> Message-ID: <20071031135103.225000@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <472847E4.6010006@tiscali.co.uk> <20071031131200.912C614D55@ns4.tnt21.com> Subject: nifty little device on guitar neck To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #1228034 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19rkRE7EqZrxbSKpNGBDENjbsWIlCKZej5HRbq5XV 8E9MY2eYsee9ptOd7M7hVwTCHsg55pJIGRhg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-GMX-UID: JuFddNBiODB6SmjcYWRMeCw9Ji9SWpK5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:51:05 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks Does anyone know what this nifty (?) little device is (and does) that you mount on the uppermost part of a guitar neck? Experimental guitar player Fred Frith has one on some of his guitars: http://www.nndb.com/people/231/000029144/frith01.jpg http://www.otherminds.org/images/GIFS1/Frith4.gif http://eddy.uni-duisburg.de/joerg/bild/moers01/frith01.jpg Cheers Nico -- GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS. Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 14:09:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C70373BEE8; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:09:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=J2HJKY5HEpb3CMbGvH/qd7aHgI/AGq9KTxa49F6vssc=; b=Ye0Xz+ORCkiaj8qHIbWh6YULEvU/xQcecBKlp0+LuhtC43GC9pQAthHLORkuy+HMh033Bv66pbhahF/AFPswwG5f0mZlAz5ek97YvGngaAPCJTb8HdmzK74Rwkcg7cNsQCbFOOexTdgn/ntdQKqjLFWbkGYAePfieSTn0ImIQ3A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Kjj6AIUncurGc2RIZM60S1mFNN9B1a2YXuC24aGYA7PCcW0K/IqkgcjrRFoyC8D06PQ8v8ax0FKJ+aFbSB+w28thVhCNAONJQ32LCCgVaRCOQM5urHu+lnRs8CvvN5s+44yOX4R30Tx5Ahd+GAAPGqnsInjIG06Pcy9902xJ1oc= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:08:58 -0500 From: "Jon Southwood" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: nifty little device on guitar neck In-Reply-To: <20071031135103.225000@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3762_14122862.1193839738396" References: <472847E4.6010006@tiscali.co.uk> <20071031131200.912C614D55@ns4.tnt21.com> <20071031135103.225000@gmx.net> Resent-Message-ID: <5Uk6HD.A.m0G.-xIKHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:09:02 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3762_14122862.1193839738396 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I think it was a homebrew device that is basically a pickup mounted on a plate that can be flipped out of the way or flipped down to hover over the strings allowing him to amplify the section of the string behind the fretted notes. Cheers, Jon On 10/31/07, nico spahni wrote: > > Hi folks > > Does anyone know what this nifty (?) little device is (and does) that you > mount on the uppermost part of a guitar neck? Experimental guitar player > Fred Frith has one on some of his guitars: > > http://www.nndb.com/people/231/000029144/frith01.jpg > http://www.otherminds.org/images/GIFS1/Frith4.gif > http://eddy.uni-duisburg.de/joerg/bild/moers01/frith01.jpg > > Cheers > > Nico > -- > GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS. > Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail > > ------=_Part_3762_14122862.1193839738396 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I think it was a homebrew device that is basically a pickup mounted on a plate that can be flipped out of the way or flipped down to hover over the strings allowing him to amplify the section of the string behind the fretted notes.

    Cheers,
    Jon

    On 10/31/07, nico spahni <nicosp@gmx.net> wrote:
    Hi folks

    Does anyone know what this nifty (?) little device is (and does) that you mount on the uppermost part of a guitar neck? Experimental guitar player Fred Frith has one on some of his guitars:

    http://www.nndb.com/people/231/000029144/frith01.jpg
    http://www.otherminds.org/images/GIFS1/Frith4.gif
    http://eddy.uni-duisburg.de/joerg/bild/moers01/frith01.jpg

    Cheers

    Nico
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    ------=_Part_3762_14122862.1193839738396-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 14:11:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C8F93BED2; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:11:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=gmEPWgcUfrFdLNwXtjRl3E9Ge4k6rgdPN08g8xAMtWrfoXbGlwsCOfN8b2obSTVIjEnhaJIdA+1woDVcNBI4UggiLsMvgZ6SGss/BuuaTj6WMRe+bURPtNCmLJ3poU2xY6FiiAkas7uDdcnjuVRLrLM51veEMmX59FddeoDfO4Y=; X-YMail-OSG: qTLXkLkVM1kmsk4SPYW1MKBFMmuI27SknctTXkLrLoMFrgrXBNktwWHOKwWb.hUF._UMCmyLnas0TGV_vuixMqioD97ZCGbTZwKAr1LfuqLd10oyvoo- Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:11:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Subject: RE: AXON AX 100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD08238E2E73@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <324981.96772.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:11:45 +0000 (UTC) Hello Dean my name is Daniel T. Albertini of Albertini Guitar Works I read the thread for Richard and agree that the RMC folks and Graphtech are at the top of their game. I graduated from/earned luthier certification Roberto-Venn School of Luthiery in Phoenix Arizona. I was curious if you were familiar with the school? Anyway I have also designed and built and currently building a new flamenco like model. I am utilizing spanish cedar, oregon myrtle/California Laurel also locally called pepperwood, African Pink Ivory and Ebony, various species of rosewood and mahogany entandrophagma. I have unbelievable figured metaseqoiadendron for the soundboard that you might get lucky enough to find in a museum or wood collector but doubtful. It is many thousands of years old I have no idea how it found its way to Kansas. One professor friend of mine said it was probably brought in by railroad car over a hundred years ago!!! If you would like to see some of my other current designs in use link up with me and my friends at www.myspace.com/albertiniguitarworks It would be great to chat and consult with you on your designs and various luthier subjects and music or whatever! I have some fun live radio looping performances to prepare for as well so Peace Be With You, Daniel T. Albertini --- "Dean, Hal " wrote: > Richard, > > While there are those who argue that tracking with the Roland GK system > is good, they are a distinct minority; I am not among them. The majority > opinion, by far, is that either the RMC system or GraphTech's Ghost > system are far superior in terms of tracking and accuracy. Both operate > on the same principle - piezo saddle pickups that feed into a > "translator" module. The RMC system has been used in Godin's MIDI-ready > guitars, such as the Multiac and LGXT, for years. I have both those > guitars as well as an RMC-equipped classical guitar I had made. > > I am currently researching how to install a MIDI pickup system in a Paul > Reed Smith Archtop (which BTW I bought from Kris Hartung) and find that > Ghost may be more suitable in this instrument, for reasons I won't go > into here. In the course of researching this I've seen comments on the > midiguitar forum to the effect that the build quality, specifically > connectors, and balance are not as good with Ghost; supposedly, both > these issues can be overcome with some careful installation techniques. > > Both RMC and Ghost systems will be costlier than the Roland system. Both > can also provide a nice piezoelectric sound to blend with any pickups > you have already. The Godin Multiac is a great acoustic guitar with just > the piezo sound, and the MIDI capability. I will miss mine when I sell > it - which I need to do to make up for buying the PRS! > > I would love to have an Axon. I have an older Roland GI-10. Everyone > that has used the Axon and the Roland GI-10 or -20 says the Axon is > better. You certainly have that part of the signal chain well covered. > > Take a look at http://www.graphtech.com/ghost_info.php and > http://www.rmcpickup.com/. > > OT- Am I remembering you are the guy who knew Stanley Whitaker? > > Hal Dean > > ________________________________ > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 14:19:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9104E3BED9; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:19:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=6Ad1M/kZ3OEs3/Kkz/hlbxhpRBi8Cm/vbajZK9rwXyIVICj/z7bCrimUvrkkF0R2rHIQIUH3iOhcALpHpGB4DCs65QwHqbscafz3VOoP+1Q4GIfkws7YVVIiM+xNTAlg1EuNcOt97opXqXLTcstzcI6qcHTLZpbYqGO/xV4cIeE=; X-YMail-OSG: bm5SrUMVM1n1vpF7fH0dZpgC2h6Uy281HoqXDewk6n97_0t0W9FntPk5aWUwcEDEULGT0hNA42Gs0nJKleLAqQdInBR52tmXuzqHf7bPOHzrrQ7avtA- Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:19:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Subject: Re: AXON AX 100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20071031131200.912C614D55@ns4.tnt21.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <29634.84098.qm@web34208.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <4FBMhB.A.qiH.n7IKHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:19:19 +0000 (UTC) Paul you are the second fellow luthier I have had the pleasure to aquaint with here on L.Delight!! This is great we can all communicate between each other. I have another live looping performance to prepare for so I gotta cut this short so come link up with me and my friends and www.myspace.com/albertiniguitarworks If at all possible be great to have ya!! :o) Peace Be With You and Yours, Daniel T. Albertini --- paul wrote: > Hi Richard, > > I don't have any experience with the gk3 pickup but I did play around > with a gk2 for a while on my Taylor. Generally I found the tracking > wasn't real good until I switched strings to nickle wound strings. > The pickup just didn't seem to like the ph. bronze acoustic strings > at all. After using that for nearly a year I got an inexpensive > electric (a used Parker p44 about 450.00) and put a Graphtech Ghost > system (about 650.00) in it. Wow, an amazing difference! The pickup > system cost me more than the guitar did but was well worth it! Since > that experiment I've now built a small bodied electric with no mag > pickups but just the Graphtech ghost pickups and a fan fret neck. > Very happy with it. Graphtech is located in Vancouver and very nice > folks to talk to. I'm sure they'd talk to you about your options. > > I'll part with the Parker if anyone is interested........ > > > Paul Haslem > > > > At 04:16 AM 10/31/2007, you wrote: > >Richard Sales wrote: > > > >>So question - have any of you used the AXON AX 100? Has anyone used > >>it with an acoustic guitar? And do any of you know where to get > >>PICKUPS - especially the hexaphonic pickup for acoustic guitars? I > >>was given the AX 100 and it looks very cool. But it don't got no > >>pickup! Argh!!! It > > > >Hi Richard, > >probably the Roland p/u is your best bet, > >but check that the string spacing lines up first. > > > >You could check out the Graptech Ghost system > > > >http://www.graphtech.com/ > > > >...but I think that would need guitar surgery. > > > >Terratec market their own p/u, but don't make any claims about it > >being better than the Roland. > > > >General consensus is that the AX100 onboards sounds aren't up to much, > >so you might want to think about some kind of synth. > >(It's essentially a wavetable pc soundcard, the default piano sound > >is not so bad if you can stand digital piano, but otherwise think > >80's General Midi) > >Of course, if you want to plug in a laptop an run some soft synths > >using Bidule > >then you're going to enjoy yourself. > > > > > >andy butler > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From premilec@skylla.webserversystems.com Wed Oct 31 14:28:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 708 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:28:14 UTC Received: from skylla.webserversystems.com (skylla.webserversystems.com [209.59.145.2]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73623BEB3 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:28:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from premilec by skylla.webserversystems.com with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1InEdt-0006ni-DQ for looparc@loopers-delight.com; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:34:01 -0500 To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: Hello! From: John Mark Reply-To: chambers_chambers2@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:34:01 -0500 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - skylla.webserversystems.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32723 32003] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - skylla.webserversystems.com X-Source: /usr/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/bin/php jefferyladuninbox.php X-Source-Dir: premilec.com:/public_html/manage/upload Hello I got your contact in course of my inquiry to locate Relations of my Deceased Client WILLIAMS who died with his family in a car crash on 5th August 2004.Please I need your assistance to repatriate the sum of US$6.5M which my Deceased Client left behind. The Account containing this fund has been dormant since his demise and the Finance Company is threatening to confiscate the fund as Unclaimed Deposit. Rather leaving the fund confiscated based on the fact that you share the same last name with my Deceased Client I seek your consent and assistance to nominate you as my Deceased Client Relation under legal process and risk free to repatriate the fund as I have the jurisdiction as the Deceased P.A to testify the Deceaseds Relation. Also I have the documents to complete the transaction. What I require is your willingness to assist me and to treat the transaction as confidential.Contact me for further information and commencement of the transaction. Yours faithfully, John Mark Private Email: john_chambers1@yahoo.com Kindly forward to me the following information to enable me start processing the necessary documents: 1. Your full name as stated in your international passport. 2. Your residence address, age and occupation. 3. Your Cell phone and Fax numbers for easier communication From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 14:29:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4C5B3BEE0; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:29:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=PW7fwLn5AZc20YtJtUqeagZSFQKEfh26TN/cPUV9KwI6JyQiZSUDtIyNnS5DoYGMp4WTeoEujdA88sIEKX3H9cnRQpradbFXS4npkQQaBDwer9SRM8rHbc0PzuauDDbk/hAd5Q8w5yLd/6ctQ98zZ2DdBgbzqKYQnET11P6XfDo=; X-YMail-OSG: quHQWAIVM1nSbPBP_CtAIeKlxskT8ZrMeT7R8xItHaimmB22xPgAc8lsQxhXoRMeIPbkYBRr09uV70tCtamyy_Yp90MnvQRwX1PQe7L6aaN_DychdF4- Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:29:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Subject: Re: nifty little device on guitar neck To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20071031135103.225000@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <392620.31435.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75865 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:29:19 +0000 (UTC) I am pretty sure they are mutes that do not allow the string to ring out openly I use hair ties but am building one to replace right over the top of my truss rod cover. Michael Angelo Batio and Jennifer Batten and Rusty Coolie are some of my favorite masters that use the mute I would highly recommend you check em out!!! I also use the outside fleshy part of my right hand to mute when playing with my left hand quick arpeggiations similar to Joe Satriani and Steve Vai's style but no where near their mastery!!! I can only dream for now, Ha ha lol :o) Of course Chet Atkins had the guitar built utilizing right in to his!!! www.myspace.com/albertiniguitarworks come link up with the mainly good clean fun with all my friends and aquaintances and bands of influence... All these extraordinairy musicians are here with many others: > Hi folks > > Does anyone know what this nifty (?) little device is (and does) that you mount on the uppermost > part of a guitar neck? Experimental guitar player Fred Frith has one on some of his guitars: > > http://www.nndb.com/people/231/000029144/frith01.jpg > http://www.otherminds.org/images/GIFS1/Frith4.gif > http://eddy.uni-duisburg.de/joerg/bild/moers01/frith01.jpg > > Cheers > > Nico > -- > GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS. > Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From premilec@skylla.webserversystems.com Wed Oct 31 14:29:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from skylla.webserversystems.com (skylla.webserversystems.com [209.59.145.2]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0C123BEDD for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from premilec by skylla.webserversystems.com with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1InEfB-0007Tv-GD for looparc@loopers-delight.com; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:35:21 -0500 To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: Hello! From: John Mark Reply-To: chambers_chambers2@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:35:21 -0500 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - skylla.webserversystems.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32723 32003] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - skylla.webserversystems.com X-Source: /usr/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/bin/php jefferyladuninbox.php X-Source-Dir: premilec.com:/public_html/manage/upload Hello I got your contact in course of my inquiry to locate Relations of my Deceased Client WILLIAMS who died with his family in a car crash on 5th August 2004.Please I need your assistance to repatriate the sum of US$6.5M which my Deceased Client left behind. The Account containing this fund has been dormant since his demise and the Finance Company is threatening to confiscate the fund as Unclaimed Deposit. Rather leaving the fund confiscated based on the fact that you share the same last name with my Deceased Client I seek your consent and assistance to nominate you as my Deceased Client Relation under legal process and risk free to repatriate the fund as I have the jurisdiction as the Deceased P.A to testify the Deceaseds Relation. Also I have the documents to complete the transaction. What I require is your willingness to assist me and to treat the transaction as confidential.Contact me for further information and commencement of the transaction. Yours faithfully, John Mark Private Email: john_chambers1@yahoo.com Kindly forward to me the following information to enable me start processing the necessary documents: 1. Your full name as stated in your international passport. 2. Your residence address, age and occupation. 3. Your Cell phone and Fax numbers for easier communication From premilec@skylla.webserversystems.com Wed Oct 31 14:31:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from skylla.webserversystems.com (skylla.webserversystems.com [209.59.145.2]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97CFE3BEB8 for ; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:31:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from premilec by skylla.webserversystems.com with local (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1InEhC-00006M-NC for looparc@loopers-delight.com; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:37:26 -0500 To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: Hello! From: John Mark Reply-To: john_chambers1@yahoo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:37:26 -0500 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - skylla.webserversystems.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32723 32003] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - skylla.webserversystems.com X-Source: /usr/bin/php X-Source-Args: /usr/bin/php jefferyladuninbox.php X-Source-Dir: premilec.com:/public_html/manage/upload Hello I got your contact in course of my inquiry to locate Relations of my Deceased Client WILLIAMS who died with his family in a car crash on 5th August 2004.Please I need your assistance to repatriate the sum of US$6.5M which my Deceased Client left behind. The Account containing this fund has been dormant since his demise and the Finance Company is threatening to confiscate the fund as Unclaimed Deposit. Rather leaving the fund confiscated; based on the fact that you share the same last name with my Deceased Client I seek your consent and assistance to nominate you as my Deceased Clients Relation under legal process and risk free to repatriate the fund as I have the jurisdiction as the Deceaseds P.A to testify the Deceased s Relation. Also I have the documents to complete the transaction. What I require is your willingness to assist me and to treat the transaction as confidential.Contact me for further information and commencement of the transaction. Yours faithfully, John Mark Private Email: john_chambers1@yahoo.com Kindly forward to me the following information to enable me start processing the necessary documents: 1. Your full name as stated in your international passport. 2. Your residence address, age and occupation. 3. Your Cell phone and Fax numbers for easier communication From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 14:41:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F7F43BED8; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:41:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=xpO4fAkYRvNfPf/82GIAplWq4jj/ZjMnozmzXBQfYI8x8tDgsP3jR72SLj0YQujqzmod6fBy/D6KofXxR9wyEBGiAQOdvExbpo8o+8pUaYtQALLea/TQDkBn6XceFGQ9lyunWmV45eXfjoatZaX/bpQI9GY+xWYHc0HAXOwwakM=; X-YMail-OSG: Bhzvz2IVM1ljA26kOYgVeWoC9cTWBhQxxHrbheFGIth.BpBnexaq8.D0u0M.CfMaewPWieMz23TcgipPn9AYDVWBzA1R1WMXsCoug7INde4_EFmlkSw- Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 07:41:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Subject: I wanted everybody to know!!! To: Brian Good MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <125280.68344.qm@web34210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:41:04 +0000 (UTC) Hello I just got off the phone yesterday with a very kind personable man named Greg Farris who designs incredible amplifiers. They are called "Ultrasound" of UJC Electronics. I am now endorsing these live and just love em. I have two AG-30's one left channel one for right channel respectively. They also have built in effects loops so work well with looping devices. I use boomerangs and Alesis midiverb from a Yamaha magicstomp. I must go prepare for my live radio looping performances inbetween repairing instruments and foreign crap. I think I have perfected the art of making dime purses out of sow ears but am still trying to figure out how to get compensated for it appropriately??? Ha ha lol :o) Peace Be With You and all of Yours, Daniel T. Albertini www.myspace.com/albertiniguitarworks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 14:44:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53CA33BECA; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:44:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: midifriedchicken@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AXON AX 100 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:44:48 +0000 Message-Id: <103120071444.2195.472894E000087AD2000008932216566276020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWlkaWZyaWVkY2hpY2tlbkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_2195_1193841888_0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:44:51 +0000 (UTC) --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_2195_1193841888_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have an Axon ax 100. It is amzing how well it tracks. Virtually no latency. I use a GK 3 on a Variax. That works great. I also had a Multiac for about a day. The acoustic sounds sucked, but I didnt percieve a huge improvement with the RMC system so I sent it back. The problem with putting a Midi system on an acoustic is that the top vibrates. This complicates things a little. The problem with the ax100 is the internal sounds suck. Really cheesy. I have since replaced it with the AX50. Since I'm using mostly soft synths and plugins now, this is more then adequate. Also, the cool thing with thew Axons, is the software editor, also the picking zones are awesome. Plus the ax50 is tiny. There is an AX100 for sale on ebay. MFC -------------- Original message -------------- From: Richard Sales > HI gang > > > I'm sort of back! Have been busier than a whole colony of fleas on a > burning cat! > > > Just did a music video here at our farm this past weekend that was > insane - 30 bicyclists, one authentic hippy VW bus, 11 member film > crew, 4 band members. > > > So question - have any of you used the AXON AX 100? Has anyone used > it with an acoustic guitar? And do any of you know where to get > PICKUPS - especially the hexaphonic pickup for acoustic guitars? I > was given the AX 100 and it looks very cool. But it don't got no > pickup! Argh!!! It looks really intriguing and I checked out videos > of folks using it and it seems pretty stunning. > > > Thanks in advance > > Gadgetrichard sales > > 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio > > vancouver island, b.c. > > 800.545.6846 > > 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C > > www.glassWing.com > > www.richardsales.com > > www.hayleysales.com > > www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_2195_1193841888_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    I have an Axon ax 100. It is amzing how well it tracks. Virtually no latency. I use a GK 3 on a Variax. That works great. I also had a Multiac for about a day. The acoustic sounds sucked, but I didnt percieve a huge improvement with the RMC system so I sent it back. The problem with putting a Midi system on an acoustic is that the top vibrates. This complicates things a little.
     
    The problem with the ax100 is the internal sounds suck. Really cheesy. I have since replaced it with the AX50. Since I'm using mostly soft synths and plugins now, this is more then adequate.
    Also, the cool thing with thew Axons, is the software editor, also the picking zones are awesome.
    Plus the ax50 is tiny. There is an AX100 for sale on ebay.
     
    MFC
     
    -------------- Original message --------------
    From: Richard Sales <richard@glasswing.com>

    > HI gang
    >
    >
    > I'm sort of back! Have been busier than a whole colony of fleas on a
    > burning cat!
    >
    >
    > Just did a music video here at our farm this past weekend that was
    > insane - 30 bicyclists, one authentic hippy VW bus, 11 member film
    > crew, 4 band members.
    >
    >
    > So question - have any of you used the AXON AX 100? Has anyone used
    > it with an acoustic guitar? And do any of you know where to get
    > PICKUPS - especially the hexaphonic pickup for acoustic guitars? I
    > was given the AX 100 and it looks very cool. But it don't got no
    > pickup! Argh!!! It looks really intriguing and I checked out videos
    > of folks using it and it seems pretty stunning.
    >
    &g t;
    > Thanks in advance
    >
    > Gadgetrichard sales
    >
    > 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio
    >
    > vancouver island, b.c.
    >
    > 800.545.6846
    >
    > 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C
    >
    > www.glassWing.com
    >
    > www.richardsales.com
    >
    > www.hayleysales.com
    >
    > www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com
    >
    --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_2195_1193841888_0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 14:50:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EA4E3BEE0; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:50:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=xNMyzSALzVc+JsbamIFdPrY702W190RgFt4Nz2tABBM=; b=S6dLRu1P0nmwTsP+wwmpeiqyWRflOuF8aJNYUg+YLMDWimSd02CAIryqDKzLqTUv3qqSHgqkL9FEFNlddvoU5wvV0kkoqa/jejvhNZljRrjqKMguxI068dvMffGHZqjGMEKY5jgzocWmZSkEN5CrTYHKjQx4uc7Jvp54WaAJXhY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pwS+JmKidWGjbFMMXyE1Fd6Tag+zO+/wdfxuoFtRxsr42fhFIRj5NVIruQwBL99fVHjYmB/LLWk4m6VgmM3nha+WVquvSWYaPogHKlNR1gqXZDpqLE2lq2OPLubjrTiptyrtlKxkGfedhcEDO4dafRjFWnGWwIE7bLVINg2YC/A= Message-ID: <9e0440a60710310750n4e3de0dan94e187ca772ad6aa@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:50:29 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: I wanted everybody to know!!! In-Reply-To: <125280.68344.qm@web34210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8146_16944300.1193842229815" References: <125280.68344.qm@web34210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:50:31 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_8146_16944300.1193842229815 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I echo this don't have endorsement at this poitn with them but have been using 2 identical to these for 2 years in a self designed PA very sim to what Dan is doing I believe. They sound really clean particuraly for acoustic instruments. Dan congrads on the endorse. I have endorsements with Seagull and GHS Strings. Jim Goodin www.chinapaintingmusic.com www.jimgoodinmusic.com On 10/31/07, Dan wrote: > > Hello I just got off the phone yesterday with a very kind personable man > named Greg Farris who > designs incredible amplifiers. They are called "Ultrasound" of UJC > Electronics. I am now > endorsing these live and just love em. I have two AG-30's one left > channel one for right channel > respectively. They also have built in effects loops so work well with > looping devices. I use > boomerangs and Alesis midiverb from a Yamaha magicstomp. I must go > prepare for my live radio > looping performances inbetween repairing instruments and foreign crap. I > think I have perfected > the art of making dime purses out of sow ears but am still trying to > figure out how to get > compensated for it appropriately??? Ha ha lol :o) Peace Be With You and > all of Yours, > Daniel T. Albertini > www.myspace.com/albertiniguitarworks > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com Associates and friends on the web - Daryl Shawn - http://www.swanwelder.com Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com ------=_Part_8146_16944300.1193842229815 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    I echo this don't have endorsement at this poitn with them but have been using 2 identical to these for 2 years in a self designed PA very sim to what Dan is doing I believe.  They sound really clean particuraly for acoustic instruments.  Dan congrads on the endorse.  I have endorsements with Seagull and GHS Strings.
     
    Jim Goodin


     
    On 10/31/07, Dan <danielalbertini72@yahoo.com> wrote:
    Hello I just got off the phone yesterday with a very kind personable man named Greg Farris who
    designs incredible amplifiers.  They are called "Ultrasound" of UJC Electronics.  I am now
    endorsing these live and just love em.  I have two AG-30's one left channel one for right channel
    respectively.  They also have built in effects loops so work well with looping devices.  I use
    boomerangs and Alesis midiverb from a Yamaha magicstomp.  I must go prepare for my live radio
    looping performances inbetween repairing instruments and foreign crap.  I think I have perfected
    the art of making dime purses out of sow ears but am still trying to figure out how to get
    compensated for it appropriately???  Ha ha lol :o)  Peace Be With You and all of Yours,
    Daniel T. Albertini
    www.myspace.com/albertiniguitarworks

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    --
    The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
    MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
    Chinapainting -
    http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
    Chinapainting on My Space -
    http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
    The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
    Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com , Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com

    Associates and friends on the web -
    Daryl Shawn -
    http://www.swanwelder.com
    Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com
    John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com
    Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net
    Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com
    Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com
    New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com ------=_Part_8146_16944300.1193842229815-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 15:24:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE9B03BECC; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:24:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=9sQ++gZE5dU64BC8Io1B52HKfXvE7QDlbzVEPkiJt8U=; b=olkghFvtDwo0XMhpEDTl33rNlHNTYwgnkM7tL4fPI4vA4bsim28AeyAFGqRE6aneVQOBHgkYLtL5Z2viYGo7GdaBLcssK5V2msf6PqzV274rvm/7sIyjP2JKgDjgLd+a9ramQy8IEmJL+CALyC5jqPPiu0+tzK6Fl0vTaB3ytyk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SuUqaZLLVciw1hy5sMHZea6SDIuht43KjXOa7uBEQVxpYNUC8943GPrMT7TKUvevNtNa48SBvq640i6gsVQ8+nP3YpJSZ/1p+3V//LZ6MwelCCsVMTRa5tFRMEUQb7tq/dsfufY4tod+yi65GXDIaDVVdX+gZyHLYEx0YlPv11M= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:24:52 -0400 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: I wanted everybody to know!!! In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60710310750n4e3de0dan94e187ca772ad6aa@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <125280.68344.qm@web34210.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <9e0440a60710310750n4e3de0dan94e187ca772ad6aa@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:24:55 +0000 (UTC) > I think I have perfected >the art of making dime purses out of sow ears but am still trying to figure out how to get >compensated for it appropriately??? Ha ha lol :o) Peace Be With You and all of Yours, >Daniel T. Albertini Well, I took my RSP550 in to have a new battery installed. It's soldered to the board and I'm not THAT great with a soldering gun. They wanted $65 just to look at it. $65 for a 15 minute job replacing a $5 battery. Wow. I only paid $90 for the unit to begin with. Compensation for repairs is a tough thing to figure out! I guess that's why there's a lot of broken stuff around. Why spend that much to fix a unit that only cost slightly more than that to begin with. -- -==-=-=- Tony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 15:36:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CD2B3BECC; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:36:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=eolf7IVjmmcyJjMtGqXKH469RjlPWd5upnM2JOH1CNXrK8Jz/CwwVa41ooqev3jndndxWdWrJESton1oXmSPAEZZnQ3hZGyXvqR2ZAJSR69VpaZNNuN4PBRsGf74laRd6ide3rfGus3++U/FDmxWk6nPm4qW0yZy2p1+lZqMr0E=; X-YMail-OSG: fTo2JyoVM1nTvsAi.iUcq_7CzrWaX9XmorVPzdIZDuhERAgwl_9jILhUw19M7c2DvHxLjjJPal0J6UzEsejJ7OorR8AiiS2ee9T1XxygYVfK.PBqroOZXDhhAEN7XA-- Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:36:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Subject: Re: I wanted everybody to know!!! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <7339.75780.qm@web34202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <4V_mJ.A.adE.rDKKHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:36:12 +0000 (UTC) I truly appreciate the response, I am in an area that is severely economically depressed and cannot move right now so trying to make the best of what I have. I would recommend you invest in a variable temperature soldering gun they are pricey but will last forever!!! My teachers are animate about us always charging $50 to $75 an hour depending on job and I just cannot let the work walk out the door in this tiny town it would only be seen as arrogance not technical know how and preficiency? Im still learning everyday not to mention keeping up with all the emails and notifications on all the email programs and myspace stuff. I have not even scratched the surface of the skin of the entertainment industries Goliath. Tell you the truth Im trying to not get too involved with that despite fans pushing me to do so. Slow and steady is the only way I can go for now and I hear thats the way to win the race. Although I do not make a habit of entering contests. At the same time I do not want to go against my masters advice. ??? Endless questions need to go meditate now! Peace ~D --- Tony K wrote: > > I think I have perfected > >the art of making dime purses out of sow ears but am still trying to > figure out how to get > >compensated for it appropriately??? Ha ha lol :o) Peace Be With You > and all of Yours, > >Daniel T. Albertini > > Well, I took my RSP550 in to have a new battery installed. It's > soldered to the board and I'm not THAT great with a soldering gun. > They wanted $65 just to look at it. $65 for a 15 minute job replacing > a $5 battery. Wow. I only paid $90 for the unit to begin with. > > Compensation for repairs is a tough thing to figure out! I guess > that's why there's a lot of broken stuff around. Why spend that much > to fix a unit that only cost slightly more than that to begin with. > > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 15:43:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 992E53BECD; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:43:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=u8NmYmqeizdjSngHke6YBO+gI+NtDMDkPvgCsHwpVWW6WRq5fEXqrE+EzoGZSuzMvEUE6S8Pay9SPfpef80oVpg0KVCqTlsiDSdFeBQuFDnyFjwpxcqp/LOK0/aDRzRYSx03cbQVFl5Nj7Nd0mvSxPKqA8yRELkjzQBYXpyubB8=; X-YMail-OSG: wTEYgOQVM1kB8o3Jiyn5jc5wV9ouSr0fOpv9ZKGehkdVTgBE_Au3a.cOBOZCLgyojwq8R81MqhTuHJLruNU2sK1UWn37wjjyBCkQopj1Wvls0qrm3HU- Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 08:43:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Subject: Re: I wanted everybody to know!!! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60710310750n4e3de0dan94e187ca772ad6aa@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <730302.61832.qm@web34215.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0wRx1D.A.z1E.jKKKHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75871 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:43:31 +0000 (UTC) My friend Ron Gariglietti the Father of young Ryan "Shredlietti" is the regional sales associate for GHS and Samick Cooperation!!! He is just a hop, skip and jump from me in my original hometown of Arma Kansas. Seagull guitars are absoulutely fantastic in every way I can hear and see! One of our teachers from Roberto-Venn Terry Mcinturf if I my memory serves correctly is the patent holder of many of these designs. Collaboration with another incredible human being friend has been with Rick Turner most notably famous with helping out the Greatful Dead along with the designers of some of Jerry's Guitars John Reuter. It goes on and on and what a beautiful ride it is!!! Have Peace :o) --- Jim Goodin wrote: > I echo this don't have endorsement at this poitn with them but have been > using 2 identical to these for 2 years in a self designed PA very sim to > what Dan is doing I believe. They sound really clean particuraly for > acoustic instruments. Dan congrads on the endorse. I have endorsements > with Seagull and GHS Strings. > > Jim Goodin > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > www.jimgoodinmusic.com > > > > On 10/31/07, Dan wrote: > > > > Hello I just got off the phone yesterday with a very kind personable man > > named Greg Farris who > > designs incredible amplifiers. They are called "Ultrasound" of UJC > > Electronics. I am now > > endorsing these live and just love em. I have two AG-30's one left > > channel one for right channel > > respectively. They also have built in effects loops so work well with > > looping devices. I use > > boomerangs and Alesis midiverb from a Yamaha magicstomp. I must go > > prepare for my live radio > > looping performances inbetween repairing instruments and foreign crap. I > > think I have perfected > > the art of making dime purses out of sow ears but am still trying to > > figure out how to get > > compensated for it appropriately??? Ha ha lol :o) Peace Be With You and > > all of Yours, > > Daniel T. Albertini > > www.myspace.com/albertiniguitarworks > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars > - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay > Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > > Associates and friends on the web - > Daryl Shawn - > http://www.swanwelder.com > Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com > John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com > Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net > Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com > Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com > New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 16:05:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BAA13BEE2; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:05:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 623023864-mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.66.245.163 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aq4HAARFKEdPQvWj/2dsb2JhbACCKaVL Message-ID: <4728A809.3000308@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:06:33 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: nifty little device on guitar neck References: <472847E4.6010006@tiscali.co.uk> <20071031131200.912C614D55@ns4.tnt21.com> <20071031135103.225000@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20071031135103.225000@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75872 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:05:57 +0000 (UTC) Hi Nico. it's just another pickup. Mr Frith wanted to capture the sound made when plucking the wrong side of the fretting hand. andy butler nico spahni wrote: > Hi folks > > Does anyone know what this nifty (?) little device is (and does) that you mount on the uppermost part of a guitar neck? Experimental guitar player Fred Frith has one on some of his guitars: > > http://www.nndb.com/people/231/000029144/frith01.jpg > http://www.otherminds.org/images/GIFS1/Frith4.gif > http://eddy.uni-duisburg.de/joerg/bild/moers01/frith01.jpg > > Cheers > > Nico From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 16:18:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CABAF3BED6; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20071031111834.yinf7u64joc8kokk@69.89.21.76> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:18:34 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new composition influenced by looping and some ramblings References: <20071029164030.urp55kkh1cwcs0kc@69.89.21.76> <7F638F9A-D98E-4520-94A9-98BD2D396709@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7F638F9A-D98E-4520-94A9-98BD2D396709@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box76.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kevinkissinger.com Resent-Message-ID: <81SVkD.A.0mG.erKKHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:18:38 +0000 (UTC) Qua, Todd, cpr, and Per, Thank you for your compliments on "The Sad Little Ghost". http://kevinkissinger.com/sadlittleghost.shtml And many thanks to the many people who took the time to listen. Quoting cpr@musetrap.com: > > Now, the real question is, would I have thought it was > 'Elfman-esque', if I had > not seen your comment regarding Nightmare before Christmas? hmmmm... > Well, the answer is that you may have thought the work was Elfman-esque anyway. While I enjoy the music from "Nightmare Before Christmas" I've never really sought to imitate Elfman per se. However, over the last year a few people have said that my work is a little like Elfman's. Well, since I like Elfman's work I take it as a compliment. Happy Halloween to one and all. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 16:32:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A1D03BEB9; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:32:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1151 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:32:27 UTC Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD08238E2E73@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> References: <009701c81b79$90cee4d0$b26cae70$@com> <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD08238E2E73@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-791626680 Message-Id: <45a487dd9853bbff044f53281cf7e69c@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: AXON AX 100 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:13:11 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:32:28 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-791626680 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Thanks Dean Yup! I'm the guy who knew Stanley Whittaker. Do you know him? Have you seen him lately? If you do, tell him Richard Sales from the Happy The Man days and the Cellar Door says hello! I have (somewhat) kept up contact with Kit Watkins. Great player! No... incredible player. He recorded on some of my stuff back in the stone ages. I thought and still think Happy The Man was one of the most inventive and listenable bands ever. I heard they might reunite. Any knowledge on that? Stanley had one of the first PRS guitars I ever saw. At that time I knew Paul was fixing guitars but hadn't seen his own. He'd worked on my guitars before that. Oh man! That guitar, and especially in Stanley's hands, made me take another look at Paul. I would contact Paul or the PRS people about pickups on their guitars. I seem to remember he'd fiddled with the idea of MIDI pickups on his guitars. Thanks again for all the data. I only know what the AXON can do from the demos on the Terratec site.... and it is incredible. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 31-Oct-07, at 6:03 AM, Dean, Hal wrote: > Richard, > > While there are those who argue that tracking with the Roland GK system > is good, they are a distinct minority; I am not among them. The > majority > opinion, by far, is that either the RMC system or GraphTech's Ghost > system are far superior in terms of tracking and accuracy. Both operate > on the same principle - piezo saddle pickups that feed into a > "translator" module. The RMC system has been used in Godin's MIDI-ready > guitars, such as the Multiac and LGXT, for years. I have both those > guitars as well as an RMC-equipped classical guitar I had made. > > I am currently researching how to install a MIDI pickup system in a > Paul > Reed Smith Archtop (which BTW I bought from Kris Hartung) and find that > Ghost may be more suitable in this instrument, for reasons I won't go > into here. In the course of researching this I've seen comments on the > midiguitar forum to the effect that the build quality, specifically > connectors, and balance are not as good with Ghost; supposedly, both > these issues can be overcome with some careful installation techniques. > > Both RMC and Ghost systems will be costlier than the Roland system. > Both > can also provide a nice piezoelectric sound to blend with any pickups > you have already. The Godin Multiac is a great acoustic guitar with > just > the piezo sound, and the MIDI capability. I will miss mine when I sell > it - which I need to do to make up for buying the PRS! > > I would love to have an Axon. I have an older Roland GI-10. Everyone > that has used the Axon and the Roland GI-10 or -20 says the Axon is > better. You certainly have that part of the signal chain well covered. > > Take a look at http://www.graphtech.com/ghost_info.php and > http://www.rmcpickup.com/. > > OT- Am I remembering you are the guy who knew Stanley Whitaker? > > Hal Dean > > ________________________________ > > > > --Apple-Mail-2-791626680 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Thanks Dean Yup! I'm the guy who knew Stanley Whittaker. Do you know him? Have you seen him lately? If you do, tell him Richard Sales from the Happy The Man days and the Cellar Door says hello! I have (somewhat) kept up contact with Kit Watkins. Great player! No... incredible player. He recorded on some of my stuff back in the stone ages. I thought and still think Happy The Man was one of the most inventive and listenable bands ever. I heard they might reunite. Any knowledge on that? Stanley had one of the first PRS guitars I ever saw. At that time I knew Paul was fixing guitars but hadn't seen his own. He'd worked on my guitars before that. Oh man! That guitar, and especially in Stanley's hands, made me take another look at Paul. I would contact Paul or the PRS people about pickups on their guitars. I seem to remember he'd fiddled with the idea of MIDI pickups on his guitars. Thanks again for all the data. I only know what the AXON can do from the demos on the Terratec site.... and it is incredible. Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 31-Oct-07, at 6:03 AM, Dean, Hal wrote: Richard, While there are those who argue that tracking with the Roland GK system is good, they are a distinct minority; I am not among them. The majority opinion, by far, is that either the RMC system or GraphTech's Ghost system are far superior in terms of tracking and accuracy. Both operate on the same principle - piezo saddle pickups that feed into a "translator" module. The RMC system has been used in Godin's MIDI-ready guitars, such as the Multiac and LGXT, for years. I have both those guitars as well as an RMC-equipped classical guitar I had made. I am currently researching how to install a MIDI pickup system in a Paul Reed Smith Archtop (which BTW I bought from Kris Hartung) and find that Ghost may be more suitable in this instrument, for reasons I won't go into here. In the course of researching this I've seen comments on the midiguitar forum to the effect that the build quality, specifically connectors, and balance are not as good with Ghost; supposedly, both these issues can be overcome with some careful installation techniques. Both RMC and Ghost systems will be costlier than the Roland system. Both can also provide a nice piezoelectric sound to blend with any pickups you have already. The Godin Multiac is a great acoustic guitar with just the piezo sound, and the MIDI capability. I will miss mine when I sell it - which I need to do to make up for buying the PRS! I would love to have an Axon. I have an older Roland GI-10. Everyone that has used the Axon and the Roland GI-10 or -20 says the Axon is better. You certainly have that part of the signal chain well covered. Take a look at http://www.graphtech.com/ghost_info.php and http://www.rmcpickup.com/. OT- Am I remembering you are the guy who knew Stanley Whitaker? Hal Dean ________________________________ --Apple-Mail-2-791626680-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 16:34:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53DA43BEE8; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:34:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: References: Subject: RE: AXON AX 100 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 09:34:03 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c81bdb$d96ff500$6701a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C81BA1.2D111D00" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acgbe0wITiA2O6ANQ72E4mGUUC6sPgAYEVrg In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:34:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C81BA1.2D111D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The RMC pickup is the best for acoustic instruments, I have one in my flamenco guitar that works very well, but it requires installation, So I suggest you just give the Axon to me :-) Bill _____ From: Richard Sales [mailto:richard@glasswing.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:32 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: AXON AX 100 HI gang I'm sort of back! Have been busier than a whole colony of fleas on a burning cat! Just did a music video here at our farm this past weekend that was insane - 30 bicyclists, one authentic hippy VW bus, 11 member film crew, 4 band members. So question - have any of you used the AXON AX 100? Has anyone used it with an acoustic guitar? And do any of you know where to get PICKUPS - especially the hexaphonic pickup for acoustic guitars? I was given the AX 100 and it looks very cool. But it don't got no pickup! Argh!!! It looks really intriguing and I checked out videos of folks using it and it seems pretty stunning. Thanks in advance richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C81BA1.2D111D00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    The RMC pickup is the best for = acoustic instruments, I have one in my flamenco guitar that works very well, but = it requires installation, So I suggest you just give the Axon to me = J

    Bill

     

    From: = Richard Sales [mailto:richard@glasswing.com]
    Sent: Tuesday, October = 30, 2007 5:32 PM
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject: AXON AX = 100

     

    HI gang

    I'm sort of back! Have been busier than a whole colony of fleas on a = burning cat!

    Just did a music video here at our farm this past weekend that was = insane - 30 bicyclists, one authentic hippy VW bus, 11 member film crew, 4 band = members.

    So question - have any of you used the AXON AX 100? Has anyone used it = with an acoustic guitar? And do any of you know where to get PICKUPS - = especially the hexaphonic pickup for acoustic guitars? I was given the AX 100 and it = looks very cool. But it don't got no pickup! Argh!!! It looks really = intriguing and I checked out videos of folks using it and it seems pretty stunning.

    Thanks in advance
    richard sales
    glassWing farm and studio
    vancouver island, b.c.
    800.545.6846
    250.752.4816
    www.glassWing.com
    www.richardsales.com
    www.hayleysales.com
    www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com

    ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C81BA1.2D111D00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 16:34:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2F7C3BEF6; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:34:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=v53xhVI2uZuTYymCaPhv8Wv/64g80N3pJ4+4uWnHprw=; b=JzS2VUA/Q4vAXF1MpverEyZ7VQPrnHPEShUZUN4QydTHLbMX1EJkmczMUVw/cTtTYXh/a14K+h0zSd+TJrUnirHbRAspvYxZw3Ad0lPK22K8G0REPRwv9Bp5rMbFkh4DDqEhWRocQ9SeRoMoqX+C/8yyvc6Z8XSNwNqEzd6rNCU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=G+k4Lmyq2NZokAnMv80d/viuEqTCYX46pET/25sJoXOLcqMMbOThKHwYF62YLz/vkPmRHZrpaf47x9X98NY6vBUCq20KxoSbk/fm22gqkAlNCsOzgiy4BIZrClTQfuZbpxKLkRvL4lM5jKcI683rA+1gUXM1Zi6R6O5nPSrn6kY= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20071031111834.yinf7u64joc8kokk@69.89.21.76> References: <20071029164030.urp55kkh1cwcs0kc@69.89.21.76> <7F638F9A-D98E-4520-94A9-98BD2D396709@gmail.com> <20071031111834.yinf7u64joc8kokk@69.89.21.76> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: new composition influenced by looping and some ramblings Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:34:04 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75876 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:34:32 +0000 (UTC) On Oct 31, 2007, at 17:18, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > Well, since I like Elfman's work I take it as a compliment. Obviously I need to take a new listen to Danny Elfman's work because to me the only "Elfmannish" in that has been the fakt that it was "made for use in movies". I must have missed some personal musical expression vibrating through all his work. Note taken - will listen up. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 16:46:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFF3B3BEDB; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1193849005.4728b0ad31f7b@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:43:25 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new composition influenced by looping and some ramblings References: <20071029164030.urp55kkh1cwcs0kc@69.89.21.76> <7F638F9A-D98E-4520-94A9-98BD2D396709@gmail.com> <20071031111834.yinf7u64joc8kokk@69.89.21.76> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 208.49.125.142 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:46:15 +0000 (UTC) I have a deep 'elfman' connection, as I grew up listening to Oingo Boingo.. I saw them play at universities (UC Irvine, and UCLA) before moving on to actual concert venues.. :) peace -cpr Quoting Per Boysen : > On Oct 31, 2007, at 17:18, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > > > Well, since I like Elfman's work I take it as a compliment. > > > Obviously I need to take a new listen to Danny Elfman's work because > to me the only "Elfmannish" in that has been the fakt that it was > "made for use in movies". I must have missed some personal musical > expression vibrating through all his work. Note taken - will listen up. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 16:50:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2AAB3BEF7; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:50:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20071031115011.jtfiudag748gsksw@69.89.21.76> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:50:11 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new composition influenced by looping and some ramblings References: <20071029164030.urp55kkh1cwcs0kc@69.89.21.76> <7F638F9A-D98E-4520-94A9-98BD2D396709@gmail.com> <20071031111834.yinf7u64joc8kokk@69.89.21.76> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box76.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kevinkissinger.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:50:14 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Per Boysen : > On Oct 31, 2007, at 17:18, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > >> Well, since I like Elfman's work I take it as a compliment. > > > Obviously I need to take a new listen to Danny Elfman's work because to > me the only "Elfmannish" in that has been the fakt that it was "made > for use in movies". I must have missed some personal musical expression > vibrating through all his work. Note taken - will listen up. > I will admit, other than "Nightmare Before Christmas" I don't have much familiarty with Elfman's music. The reference may have been to another work I did last year, entitled: "Mummies and Unholy Ghosts" http://kevinkissinger.com/mummies.shtml . The work utilizes some orchestral writing (including use of tympanis and strings) and of course the Halloween theme. Each year, the "Spellbound" program ( spellbound.purplenote.com - a podcast) does a Halloween special and these are works that I've created for them. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 17:00:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DCC03BED5; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:00:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <934872.41786.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <934872.41786.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-794450517 Message-Id: <4ce751d707103d3689789ee4f68db501@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: AXON AX 100 Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:00:15 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: <0aDu-D.A.Bw.3SLKHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75879 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:00:39 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-794450517 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Thanks Dan! Oh man! So much to learn and research. Luthiers are like beer stores for me. I have to keep my distance! I LOVE GUITARS TOO MUCH! I finally sold one this past year and am still having convulsions having done it. But at one point I noticed spider webs between the guitar and the wall it was hanging on so I just had to let it go. But yeah..... I will RELUCTANTLY go peek at William Eaton, Roberto-Venn's and YOUR sites or info. I have to admit I have terror. I fall in love so easily. We don't have any PSAs right now. And she's not signed in the US as of right now but it's VERY MUCH looking like that will happen within the next bunch of months. She's now signed to Universal in the UK so we'll be going there in the first quarter 08. That's pretty exciting. I think France and Germany too. But the way the majors - or what's left of them - work - is your record is ONLY released per territory and can really only be promoted and tour supported per territory. So we've been pretty confined to Canada since the record came out. But it's doing very well here. The first single is lodged in the top ten of the AC chart. Was at #3 for about five months and has now slipped to #8. It's the most played record on AC this year! And the new single is fast climbing as we speak. And they're planning to launch the third in Feb so it's very conceivable Hayley will have THREE singles in the top playlists, So, IN CANADA, we're doing very well. Hopefully that will translate to other territories as well.... Jah willing. Oh shit! I ALWAYS need equipment. But that's like a very overweight man saying he ALWAYS needs candy bars! I'm gonna have to upgrade my studio sometime soon and that will be ugly. But the record's been nominated for a Juno in Engineering (Canada's Grammy) so I COULD have more studio work out of that. Don't know if I really WANT that.... but I'm sure my wife would like to see more of those little green (and in Canada red, blue etc) magic carpets flowing through the bank account. Our web sites are in my signature below. But.... www.hayleysales.com (she has a myspace too - you can hear some songs there), www.richardsales.com (samples of my songs there) and www.glasswing.com (samples of instrumentals for film video there) the studio. I guess to keep my karma clean I should pass on the Roland GK1 pickup and the MIDI interface that goes with it. If any of you want it and will pay shipping and boxing I'll send it to you. I never used it. And.... it was given to me! If you want it let me know. Only catch is, you can't turn around and sell it on Ebay! As the natives say, "The gift must move." Thanks again Dan and everyone who responded to my question. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 31-Oct-07, at 6:41 AM, Dan wrote: > Richard!!! Good to hear your back it sounds like you been having fun, > I wish I could say the > same. Anyway my teacher/luthier masters especially William Eaton is > requested by companies > especially Roland to test their prototypes of all kinds of electronic > equipment. I do not know > for sure if he is on tour right now but I would recommend you contact > him through Roberto-Venn. > He usually designs the instruments around the technology, or > viceversa. One of the most amazing > and seemingly unique human beings I have ever met. Very personable > and sweet at the same time he > helped me a great deal to get through some of the most challenging > times of my life back in 1999 > through 2000!!! Do you and Haley have any different websites I can > link up for yall at > myspace.com/albertiniguitarworks? Im trying to get a couple more > projects off the ground I have a > few more live performances on the radio stations around here in the > four state Area and in > Pittsburg soon. I will be playing solo and or with new experiment in > the works "Eagle Dawn" set > drummer/manager website consultant/very good friend Wade Heilig and > percussionist extraordinaire > Daniel Warlop Pittsburg State University Gorilla Radio. Send me your > PSA's & I will try to get > them some air time for you all and Haley! I also have been coming > across a lot of random > equipment through the interchange of musicians friend warehouses so > let me know if their is > anything else to keep an eye out for in the various piles of > electronic and wood rubble? ha ha > lol!!! Its all good :o) > Wish you and yours blessings of wellness/health, harmony, peace, > prosperity, wisdom, love and joy > Sincerely your friend Daniel T. Albertini > myspace.com/albertiniguitarworks > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > --Apple-Mail-3-794450517 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Thanks Dan! Oh man! So much to learn and research. Luthiers are like beer stores for me. I have to keep my distance! I LOVE GUITARS TOO MUCH! I finally sold one this past year and am still having convulsions having done it. But at one point I noticed spider webs between the guitar and the wall it was hanging on so I just had to let it go. But yeah..... I will RELUCTANTLY go peek at William Eaton, Roberto-Venn's and YOUR sites or info. I have to admit I have terror. I fall in love so easily. We don't have any PSAs right now. And she's not signed in the US as of right now but it's VERY MUCH looking like that will happen within the next bunch of months. She's now signed to Universal in the UK so we'll be going there in the first quarter 08. That's pretty exciting. I think France and Germany too. But the way the majors - or what's left of them - work - is your record is ONLY released per territory and can really only be promoted and tour supported per territory. So we've been pretty confined to Canada since the record came out. But it's doing very well here. The first single is lodged in the top ten of the AC chart. Was at #3 for about five months and has now slipped to #8. It's the most played record on AC this year! And the new single is fast climbing as we speak. And they're planning to launch the third in Feb so it's very conceivable Hayley will have THREE singles in the top playlists, So, IN CANADA, we're doing very well. Hopefully that will translate to other territories as well.... Jah willing. Oh shit! I ALWAYS need equipment. But that's like a very overweight man saying he ALWAYS needs candy bars! I'm gonna have to upgrade my studio sometime soon and that will be ugly. But the record's been nominated for a Juno in Engineering (Canada's Grammy) so I COULD have more studio work out of that. Don't know if I really WANT that.... but I'm sure my wife would like to see more of those little green (and in Canada red, blue etc) magic carpets flowing through the bank account. Our web sites are in my signature below. But.... www.hayleysales.com (she has a myspace too - you can hear some songs there), www.richardsales.com (samples of my songs there) and www.glasswing.com (samples of instrumentals for film video there) the studio. I guess to keep my karma clean I should pass on the Roland GK1 pickup and the MIDI interface that goes with it. If any of you want it and will pay shipping and boxing I'll send it to you. I never used it. And.... it was given to me! If you want it let me know. Only catch is, you can't turn around and sell it on Ebay! As the natives say, "The gift must move." Thanks again Dan and everyone who responded to my question. Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 31-Oct-07, at 6:41 AM, Dan wrote: Richard!!! Good to hear your back it sounds like you been having fun, I wish I could say the same. Anyway my teacher/luthier masters especially William Eaton is requested by companies especially Roland to test their prototypes of all kinds of electronic equipment. I do not know for sure if he is on tour right now but I would recommend you contact him through Roberto-Venn. He usually designs the instruments around the technology, or viceversa. One of the most amazing and seemingly unique human beings I have ever met. Very personable and sweet at the same time he helped me a great deal to get through some of the most challenging times of my life back in 1999 through 2000!!! Do you and Haley have any different websites I can link up for yall at myspace.com/albertiniguitarworks? Im trying to get a couple more projects off the ground I have a few more live performances on the radio stations around here in the four state Area and in Pittsburg soon. I will be playing solo and or with new experiment in the works "Eagle Dawn" set drummer/manager website consultant/very good friend Wade Heilig and percussionist extraordinaire Daniel Warlop Pittsburg State University Gorilla Radio. Send me your PSA's & I will try to get them some air time for you all and Haley! I also have been coming across a lot of random equipment through the interchange of musicians friend warehouses so let me know if their is anything else to keep an eye out for in the various piles of electronic and wood rubble? ha ha lol!!! Its all good :o) Wish you and yours blessings of wellness/health, harmony, peace, prosperity, wisdom, love and joy Sincerely your friend Daniel T. Albertini myspace.com/albertiniguitarworks __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --Apple-Mail-3-794450517-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 17:14:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF7C33BED8; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:14:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 381 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:14:37 UTC DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=EkAjhGMAmR4OuuUJaxSAhGm8QlCd1bg/LV5deSwag20=; b=Vij/iiFWSeyGw0nIRqz+DUypJ33wnyh9Iij/htCU+qV7Mm4a8nFM9L4yU1GVEIu8danKIG6Z2Ooi1zXJrpTDNrQngS/Ec6BuS+EY57il2YZjO2RkAQfXTs8eDMkn4NfYVsmURYD8VpDMl65S5nn1TJopgUXGle+zIgWPBAZpEHY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=cmtoSwoL509L9Ns26b89IglODsKMIgCrDXKOHl0qwf8Auro0uzBQ5G6Y0CT3V1duF2+yASVijrUrnflImQJdMD6cNN8N0xf0dT1gVjpbdUf9CsCdN5U0lZkGbxGgZ4RkxtpLQVcYAlJ3yvWWqiJYmrFyrr4DOxmkT3shNfydLb8= Message-ID: <37f071c00710311008j8566291j7282573f2b94f4c2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 10:08:13 -0700 From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AXON AX 100 In-Reply-To: <4ce751d707103d3689789ee4f68db501@glasswing.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5701_27769274.1193850493955" References: <934872.41786.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4ce751d707103d3689789ee4f68db501@glasswing.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75880 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:14:37 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_5701_27769274.1193850493955 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Richard, Are you really willing to give up the Roland pickup? I'd love to have it if no one else has beaten me to it, Glad to pay all the costs etc, but no problems if its going elsewhere. Congrats on the current run of things, sound like all is going splendidly for you and yours. Take care Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org On 10/31/07, Richard Sales wrote: > > Thanks Dan! > > Oh man! So much to learn and research. > > Luthiers are like beer stores for me. I have to keep my distance! I > LOVE GUITARS TOO MUCH! I finally sold one this past year and am still > having convulsions having done it. But at one point I noticed spider > webs between the guitar and the wall it was hanging on so I just had to > let it go. > > But yeah..... I will RELUCTANTLY go peek at William Eaton, > Roberto-Venn's and YOUR sites or info. I have to admit I have terror. > I fall in love so easily. > > We don't have any PSAs right now. And she's not signed in the US as of > right now but it's VERY MUCH looking like that will happen within the > next bunch of months. She's now signed to Universal in the UK so we'll > be going there in the first quarter 08. That's pretty exciting. I > think France and Germany too. But the way the majors - or what's left > of them - work - is your record is ONLY released per territory and can > really only be promoted and tour supported per territory. So we've > been pretty confined to Canada since the record came out. But it's > doing very well here. The first single is lodged in the top ten of the > AC chart. Was at #3 for about five months and has now slipped to #8. > It's the most played record on AC this year! And the new single is > fast climbing as we speak. And they're planning to launch the third in > Feb so it's very conceivable Hayley will have THREE singles in the top > playlists, So, IN CANADA, we're doing very well. Hopefully that will > translate to other territories as well.... Jah willing. > > Oh shit! I ALWAYS need equipment. But that's like a very overweight > man saying he ALWAYS needs candy bars! I'm gonna have to upgrade my > studio sometime soon and that will be ugly. But the record's been > nominated for a Juno in Engineering (Canada's Grammy) so I COULD have > more studio work out of that. Don't know if I really WANT that.... but > I'm sure my wife would like to see more of those little green (and in > Canada red, blue etc) magic carpets flowing through the bank account. > > Our web sites are in my signature below. But.... www.hayleysales.com > (she has a myspace too - you can hear some songs there), > www.richardsales.com (samples of my songs there) and www.glasswing.com > (samples of instrumentals for film video there) the studio. > > I guess to keep my karma clean I should pass on the Roland GK1 pickup > and the MIDI interface that goes with it. If any of you want it and > will pay shipping and boxing I'll send it to you. I never used it. > And.... it was given to me! If you want it let me know. Only catch > is, you can't turn around and sell it on Ebay! As the natives say, > "The gift must move." > > Thanks again Dan and everyone who responded to my question. > > richard sales > glassWing farm and studio > vancouver island, b.c. > 800.545.6846 > 250.752.4816 > www.glassWing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com > www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com > On 31-Oct-07, at 6:41 AM, Dan wrote: > > > Richard!!! Good to hear your back it sounds like you been having fun, > > I wish I could say the > > same. Anyway my teacher/luthier masters especially William Eaton is > > requested by companies > > especially Roland to test their prototypes of all kinds of electronic > > equipment. I do not know > > for sure if he is on tour right now but I would recommend you contact > > him through Roberto-Venn. > > He usually designs the instruments around the technology, or > > viceversa. One of the most amazing > > and seemingly unique human beings I have ever met. Very personable > > and sweet at the same time he > > helped me a great deal to get through some of the most challenging > > times of my life back in 1999 > > through 2000!!! Do you and Haley have any different websites I can > > link up for yall at > > myspace.com/albertiniguitarworks? Im trying to get a couple more > > projects off the ground I have a > > few more live performances on the radio stations around here in the > > four state Area and in > > Pittsburg soon. I will be playing solo and or with new experiment in > > the works "Eagle Dawn" set > > drummer/manager website consultant/very good friend Wade Heilig and > > percussionist extraordinaire > > Daniel Warlop Pittsburg State University Gorilla Radio. Send me your > > PSA's & I will try to get > > them some air time for you all and Haley! I also have been coming > > across a lot of random > > equipment through the interchange of musicians friend warehouses so > > let me know if their is > > anything else to keep an eye out for in the various piles of > > electronic and wood rubble? ha ha > > lol!!! Its all good :o) > > Wish you and yours blessings of wellness/health, harmony, peace, > > prosperity, wisdom, love and joy > > Sincerely your friend Daniel T. Albertini > > myspace.com/albertiniguitarworks > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ------=_Part_5701_27769274.1193850493955 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Richard,

    Are you really willing to give up the Roland pickup?  I'd love to have it if no one else has beaten me to it,  Glad to pay all the costs etc, but no problems if its going elsewhere.

    Congrats on the current run of things, sound like all is going splendidly for you and yours.

    Take care

    Kevin


    --
    Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
    form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.

    - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)

    Sound and Vision:  http://www.minds-eye.org


    On 10/31/07, Richard Sales < richard@glasswing.com> wrote:
    Thanks Dan!

    Oh man!  So much to learn and research.

    Luthiers are like beer stores for me.  I have to keep my distance!  I
    LOVE GUITARS TOO MUCH!  I finally sold one this past year and am still
    having convulsions having done it.  But at one point I noticed spider
    webs between the guitar and the wall it was hanging on so I just had to
    let it go.

    But yeah..... I will RELUCTANTLY go peek at William Eaton,
    Roberto-Venn's and YOUR sites or info.  I have to admit I have terror.
    I fall in love so easily.

    We don't have any PSAs right now.  And she's not signed in the US as of
    right now but it's VERY MUCH looking like that will happen within the
    next bunch of months.  She's now signed to Universal in the UK so we'll
    be going there in the first quarter 08.  That's pretty exciting.  I
    think France and Germany too.  But the way the majors - or what's left
    of them - work - is your record is ONLY released per territory and can
    really only be promoted and tour supported per territory.  So we've
    been pretty confined to Canada since the record came out.  But it's
    doing very well here.  The first single is lodged in the top ten of the
    AC chart.  Was at #3 for about five months and has now slipped to #8.
    It's the most played record on AC this year!  And the new single is
    fast climbing as we speak.  And they're planning to launch the third in
    Feb so it's very conceivable Hayley will have THREE singles in the top
    playlists,  So, IN CANADA, we're doing very well. Hopefully that will
    translate to other territories as well.... Jah willing.

    Oh shit!  I ALWAYS need equipment. But that's like a very overweight
    man saying he ALWAYS needs candy bars!  I'm gonna have to upgrade my
    studio sometime soon and that will be ugly.  But the record's been
    nominated for a Juno in Engineering (Canada's Grammy) so I COULD have
    more studio work out of that.  Don't know if I really WANT that.... but
    I'm sure my wife would like to see more of those little green (and in
    Canada red, blue etc) magic carpets flowing through the bank account.

    Our web sites are in my signature below.  But.... www.hayleysales.com
    (she has a myspace too - you can hear some songs there),
    www.richardsales.com (samples of my songs there) and www.glasswing.com
    (samples of instrumentals for film video there)  the studio.

    I guess to keep my karma clean I should pass on the Roland GK1 pickup
    and the MIDI interface that goes with it.  If any of you want it and
    will pay shipping and boxing I'll send it to you.  I never used it.
    And.... it was given to me!  If you want it let me know.  Only catch
    is, you can't turn around and sell it on Ebay!  As the natives say,
    "The gift must move."

    Thanks again Dan and everyone who responded to my question.

    richard sales
    glassWing farm and studio
    vancouver island, b.c.
    800.545.6846
    250.752.4816
    www.glassWing.com
    www.richardsales.com
    www.hayleysales.com
    www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com
    On 31-Oct-07, at 6:41 AM, Dan wrote:

    > Richard!!!  Good to hear your back it sounds like you been having fun,
    > I wish I could say the
    > same.  Anyway my teacher/luthier masters especially William Eaton is
    > requested by companies
    > especially Roland to test their prototypes of all kinds of electronic
    > equipment.  I do not know
    > for sure if he is on tour right now but I would recommend you contact
    > him through Roberto-Venn.
    > He usually designs the instruments around the technology, or
    > viceversa.  One of the most amazing
    > and seemingly unique human beings I have ever met.  Very personable
    > and sweet at the same time he
    > helped me a great deal to get through some of the most challenging
    > times of my life back in 1999
    > through 2000!!!  Do you and Haley have any different websites I can
    > link up for yall at
    > myspace.com/albertiniguitarworks?  Im trying to get a couple more
    > projects off the ground I have a
    > few more live performances on the radio stations around here in the
    > four state Area and in
    > Pittsburg soon.  I will be playing solo and or with new experiment in
    > the works "Eagle Dawn" set
    > drummer/manager website consultant/very good friend Wade Heilig and
    > percussionist extraordinaire
    > Daniel Warlop Pittsburg State University Gorilla Radio.  Send me your
    > PSA's & I will try to get
    > them some air time for you all and Haley!  I also have been coming
    > across a lot of random
    > equipment through the interchange of musicians friend warehouses so
    > let me know if their is
    > anything else to keep an eye out for in the various piles of
    > electronic and wood rubble?  ha ha
    > lol!!!  Its all good :o)
    >  Wish you and yours blessings of wellness/health, harmony, peace,
    > prosperity, wisdom, love and joy
    > Sincerely your friend Daniel T. Albertini
    >  myspace.com/albertiniguitarworks
    >
    >
    > __________________________________________________
    > Do You Yahoo!?
    > Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
    > http://mail.yahoo.com
    >

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    ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C81BA8.BBC25530-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 17:42:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E433B3BEF0; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:42:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20071031134222.u6p62bvj0ggkksgs@www.wightman.ca> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:42:22 -0400 From: phaslem@wightman.ca To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AXON AX 100 References: <934872.41786.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4ce751d707103d3689789ee4f68db501@glasswing.com> In-Reply-To: <4ce751d707103d3689789ee4f68db501@glasswing.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:42:25 +0000 (UTC) Hey Richard, If you think you are going to let the Axon go I'll throw my name in =20 the hat of people that would be interested in it. I'm currently using =20 a vg8-ex which doesn't have good synth sounds; I love some of the =20 guitar patches though. Just for interest sake you can take a look at the guitar I built with =20 the Graphtech pickups at http://www.haslem.ca/pictures/ click on any =20 of the jpg files marked guitar. Sounds like you're going to have a busy year! I'm starting to work on =20 a new hammered dulcimer cd that will involve looping guitar parts and =20 perhaps some dulcimer as well... Of course it will feature the =20 hammered dulcimer.... In my case I'll be delighted if I'm able to sell =20 a few hundred copies.... Regards, Paul Haslem www.dulcify.ca Quoting Richard Sales : > > I guess to keep my karma clean I should pass on the Roland GK1 pickup > and the MIDI interface that goes with it. If any of you want it and > will pay shipping and boxing I'll send it to you. I never used it. > And.... it was given to me! If you want it let me know. Only catch > is, you can't turn around and sell it on Ebay! As the natives say, > "The gift must move." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 18:12:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A9333BED6; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:12:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: animated music Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 19:12:39 +0100 Message-ID: <200710311812.l9VICitV028399@hermes.ramstein.af.mil> In-Reply-To: <001201c81be3$68212d30$38638790$@com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: animated music Thread-Index: Acgb4Pu6Gft6FCxIQt+3c1dcC0U7+gAAjWzQAAGaBCA= References: <934872.41786.qm@web34203.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4ce751d707103d3689789ee4f68db501@glasswing.com> <001201c81be3$68212d30$38638790$@com> From: "Moore, David W Civ 86 MXS/MXMTA" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2007 18:12:44.0629 (UTC) FILETIME=[A26AB050:01C81BE9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:12:46 +0000 (UTC) Coooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool. david moore transient alert 86 mxs/mxmta 480-2061/5378 -----Original Message----- From: Qua Veda [mailto:qua@oregon.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:28 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: animated music Wild imagined instruments! http://www.animusic.com/dvd-info-clips-1.html =20 -Qua From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 18:31:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24C5C3BED9; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:31:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: OT: AXON, HTM, Stanley Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:31:13 -0400 Message-ID: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD08238E2E78@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> In-Reply-To: <45a487dd9853bbff044f53281cf7e69c@glasswing.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: OT: AXON, HTM, Stanley Thread-Index: Acgb7DVv7KFUOe7ESNCTrxiluvvu/w== References: <45a487dd9853bbff044f53281cf7e69c@glasswing.com> From: "Dean, Hal " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Oct 2007 18:31:13.0649 (UTC) FILETIME=[3771B610:01C81BEC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:31:13 +0000 (UTC) Richard- =20 You can call me Hal (everyone makes that mistake). =20 We corresponded briefly about HTM awhile back. I think I told you about the HTM reunion, which yielded a new recording "The Muse Awakens", a match for their 70s LPs... or darn close. =20 I last talked to Stan as I was contemplating buying Kris's Archtop, because Stan plays one. His comments sold me on it. =20 Stan and Frank have a very HTM-ish band called Oblivion Sun, and they just put out a CD. See http://oblivionsun.homestead.com/home.html. I was supposed to see them in Vienna, VA this past Sun. but bailed due to a really persistent cold. I had seen them at Orion Sound in Baltimore last Fall - tremendous. Personally I'd like to see them doing newer-sounding stuff, but they have an audience for what they do ( not exactly a stadium-filler, but I think they can at least move some units online to the far-flung HTM fan base). That said, with the exception of one clunker the CD sounds great. Anyway, Stan is playing and singing splendidly and is a happy, married guy. =20 Stan and Frank built Paul Reed Smith's new studio and recorded the OS CD there. Frank has been a builder for many years. What role Stan played in this I can't say. They clearly remain close to Paul. =20 Oddly, I found the support at PRS concerning the Archtop to be pretty determinedly nonexistent. No wiring diagrams for the piezo-equipped guitar, and a resolute message of "you're on your on". It probably in the end is not important, though in reading more about the Graphtech Ghost system today I find myself over my head when the electronics and switching options are the topic. I'm hoping the guitar tech I'm talking too will grasp all of this. =20 By the way, Richard McClish is one of the nicest people you could ever encounter. Unbelievably helpful, a real gentleman. When I was first contemplating getting an archtop and was bewildered by the abundance of options, most of them very costly, he sent me pictures of his Buscarino. That is about as gorgeous as guitars get. Got 10 grand lying around?=20 One last - if you knew HTM you might also have known However. Those guys are all still active to one degree or another. Cheers... oh, and I will say hi to SW for you.=20 =20 Hal Dean ________________________________ From: Richard Sales [mailto:richard@glasswing.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:13 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AXON AX 100 Thanks Dean=20 Yup! I'm the guy who knew Stanley Whittaker. Do you know him? Have you seen him lately? If you do, tell him Richard Sales from the Happy The Man days and the Cellar Door says hello!=20 I have (somewhat) kept up contact with Kit Watkins. Great player! No... incredible player. He recorded on some of my stuff back in the stone ages.=20 I thought and still think Happy The Man was one of the most inventive and listenable bands ever. I heard they might reunite. Any knowledge on that?=20 Stanley had one of the first PRS guitars I ever saw. At that time I knew Paul was fixing guitars but hadn't seen his own. He'd worked on my guitars before that. Oh man! That guitar, and especially in Stanley's hands, made me take another look at Paul.=20 I would contact Paul or the PRS people about pickups on their guitars. I seem to remember he'd fiddled with the idea of MIDI pickups on his guitars.=20 Thanks again for all the data. I only know what the AXON can do from the demos on the Terratec site.... and it is incredible.=20 richard sales=20 glassWing farm and studio=20 vancouver island, b.c.=20 800.545.6846=20 250.752.4816=20 www.glassWing.com=20 www.richardsales.com=20 www.hayleysales.com=20 www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com=20 On 31-Oct-07, at 6:03 AM, Dean, Hal wrote:=20 Richard,=20 While there are those who argue that tracking with the Roland GK system=20 is good, they are a distinct minority; I am not among them. The majority=20 opinion, by far, is that either the RMC system or GraphTech's Ghost=20 system are far superior in terms of tracking and accuracy. Both operate=20 on the same principle - piezo saddle pickups that feed into a=20 "translator" module. The RMC system has been used in Godin's MIDI-ready=20 guitars, such as the Multiac and LGXT, for years. I have both those=20 guitars as well as an RMC-equipped classical guitar I had made.=20 I am currently researching how to install a MIDI pickup system in a Paul=20 Reed Smith Archtop (which BTW I bought from Kris Hartung) and find that=20 Ghost may be more suitable in this instrument, for reasons I won't go=20 into here. In the course of researching this I've seen comments on the=20 midiguitar forum to the effect that the build quality, specifically=20 connectors, and balance are not as good with Ghost; supposedly, both=20 these issues can be overcome with some careful installation techniques.=20 Both RMC and Ghost systems will be costlier than the Roland system. Both=20 can also provide a nice piezoelectric sound to blend with any pickups=20 you have already. The Godin Multiac is a great acoustic guitar with just=20 the piezo sound, and the MIDI capability. I will miss mine when I sell=20 it - which I need to do to make up for buying the PRS!=20 I would love to have an Axon. I have an older Roland GI-10. Everyone=20 that has used the Axon and the Roland GI-10 or -20 says the Axon is=20 better. You certainly have that part of the signal chain well covered.=20 Take a look at http://www.graphtech.com/ghost_info.php and=20 http://www.rmcpickup.com/.=20 OT- Am I remembering you are the guy who knew Stanley Whitaker?=20 Hal Dean=20 ________________________________=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 18:49:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9ED53BED2; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:49:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=INfXFV8zd3cZgrI6CjYCr6jR3FHIj1Gt6s4GUOCdTvRMPRnHAAfJCNRto1WQB8eqAndP56LnZF3AAjsWegAd3L/RrsIHWFViuW89uHJlhsm6lk4vbx3yYKt1Uw7UsNfv/5fXD+BhpCNE2t2f6+kFaT+8V7Ml9fou1s4jPNOKHcc=; X-YMail-OSG: UwKKd3EVM1m.Wi_PAQjagg0hM3a4N6AmQLFJsjQEpYNliqZYhiKXD2hXTXmHQgBEyA-- Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:49:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Subject: Re: AXON AX 100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4ce751d707103d3689789ee4f68db501@glasswing.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <643126.53610.qm@web34212.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75885 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:49:07 +0000 (UTC) Ok I talked to Cotton and he needs it! Im not sure how you would like for me to send shipping money and whatever you need, if there are any other rules I need to follow for shipping or credit card information? his email is jwesthoff@sbcglobal.net In case you need anything else from him he can build anything and I mean ANYTHING! He is a very good lifetime friend I respect and love very much!!!!! Thank You So Much Brother!!! :o) My address is 205 West 9th Pittsburg, Kansas zip 66762 phone 1-620-232-1252 --- Richard Sales wrote: > Thanks Dan! > > Oh man! So much to learn and research. > > Luthiers are like beer stores for me. I have to keep my distance! I > LOVE GUITARS TOO MUCH! I finally sold one this past year and am still > having convulsions having done it. But at one point I noticed spider > webs between the guitar and the wall it was hanging on so I just had to > let it go. > > But yeah..... I will RELUCTANTLY go peek at William Eaton, > Roberto-Venn's and YOUR sites or info. I have to admit I have terror. > I fall in love so easily. > > We don't have any PSAs right now. And she's not signed in the US as of > right now but it's VERY MUCH looking like that will happen within the > next bunch of months. She's now signed to Universal in the UK so we'll > be going there in the first quarter 08. That's pretty exciting. I > think France and Germany too. But the way the majors - or what's left > of them - work - is your record is ONLY released per territory and can > really only be promoted and tour supported per territory. So we've > been pretty confined to Canada since the record came out. But it's > doing very well here. The first single is lodged in the top ten of the > AC chart. Was at #3 for about five months and has now slipped to #8. > It's the most played record on AC this year! And the new single is > fast climbing as we speak. And they're planning to launch the third in > Feb so it's very conceivable Hayley will have THREE singles in the top > playlists, So, IN CANADA, we're doing very well. Hopefully that will > translate to other territories as well.... Jah willing. > > Oh shit! I ALWAYS need equipment. But that's like a very overweight > man saying he ALWAYS needs candy bars! I'm gonna have to upgrade my > studio sometime soon and that will be ugly. But the record's been > nominated for a Juno in Engineering (Canada's Grammy) so I COULD have > more studio work out of that. Don't know if I really WANT that.... but > I'm sure my wife would like to see more of those little green (and in > Canada red, blue etc) magic carpets flowing through the bank account. > > Our web sites are in my signature below. But.... www.hayleysales.com > (she has a myspace too - you can hear some songs there), > www.richardsales.com (samples of my songs there) and www.glasswing.com > (samples of instrumentals for film video there) the studio. > > I guess to keep my karma clean I should pass on the Roland GK1 pickup > and the MIDI interface that goes with it. If any of you want it and > will pay shipping and boxing I'll send it to you. I never used it. > And.... it was given to me! If you want it let me know. Only catch > is, you can't turn around and sell it on Ebay! As the natives say, > "The gift must move." > > Thanks again Dan and everyone who responded to my question. > > richard sales > glassWing farm and studio > vancouver island, b.c. > 800.545.6846 > 250.752.4816 > www.glassWing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com > www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com > On 31-Oct-07, at 6:41 AM, Dan wrote: > > > Richard!!! Good to hear your back it sounds like you been having fun, > > I wish I could say the > > same. Anyway my teacher/luthier masters especially William Eaton is > > requested by companies > > especially Roland to test their prototypes of all kinds of electronic > > equipment. I do not know > > for sure if he is on tour right now but I would recommend you contact > > him through Roberto-Venn. > > He usually designs the instruments around the technology, or > > viceversa. One of the most amazing > > and seemingly unique human beings I have ever met. Very personable > > and sweet at the same time he > > helped me a great deal to get through some of the most challenging > > times of my life back in 1999 > > through 2000!!! Do you and Haley have any different websites I can > > link up for yall at > > myspace.com/albertiniguitarworks? Im trying to get a couple more > > projects off the ground I have a > > few more live performances on the radio stations around here in the > > four state Area and in > > Pittsburg soon. I will be playing solo and or with new experiment in > > the works "Eagle Dawn" set > > drummer/manager website consultant/very good friend Wade Heilig and > > percussionist extraordinaire > > Daniel Warlop Pittsburg State University Gorilla Radio. Send me your > > PSA's & I will try to get > > them some air time for you all and Haley! I also have been coming > > across a lot of random > > equipment through the interchange of musicians friend warehouses so > > let me know if their is > > anything else to keep an eye out for in the various piles of > > electronic and wood rubble? ha ha > > lol!!! Its all good :o) > > Wish you and yours blessings of wellness/health, harmony, peace, > > prosperity, wisdom, love and joy > > Sincerely your friend Daniel T. Albertini > > myspace.com/albertiniguitarworks > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 20:16:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F7C13BEDB; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: square waves Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:16:47 -0700 Message-ID: <002201c81bfa$f89f69f0$e9de3dd0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01C81BC0.4C4091F0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcgbMn7QvxLqmTgyQxOfJ8XvlLCdngAyCJmg Content-Language: en-us X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: De50505a7000023fd.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75886 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:16:52 +0000 (UTC) This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C81BC0.4C4091F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit At the Y2K7 loopfest, Henry Kaiser explained that he used square waves to modulate a PCM 42 (lexicon fx processor) to create his loops. I really liked his performance. Did I misunderstand him? 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    At the Y2K7 loopfest, Henry Kaiser explained that he used = square waves to modulate a PCM 42 (lexicon fx processor) to create his = loops.  I really liked his performance.  Did I misunderstand him?  Can = anyone explain how this is done?  

     

    -Qua

    ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C81BC0.4C4091F0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 20:26:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 157C13BED2; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:26:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=XJnlv29WPCqGXfiF8wDNsD/AsdMm8SmjfCvNNuJ9/4EXVkbROz+qVmh32C9u7yKDW2znMdJzbXrDqzehsDOpDTOvHC7y/NzB1CgBEvNkV2a0bVj1toeeWusA2gnvj+b69Zd90OjF2WdW5GHhCnx/ysfPWE+fuuoI6cV8yrPpyhk=; X-YMail-OSG: PAmkyWcVM1k7U1izEuVwyPDZZVwb09GkGw32K8Cx.Warfeyw.YgtzAd7u60DG_fLyltv5n8SvamVneYE9ztd9uQti.RHyHyLqzM2SVCK9hUiaEWqDbk- Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:26:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Y2K7 Movie To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20071029170845.0jolgelomc44gs0k@69.89.21.76> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <925042.44002.qm@web38612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:26:23 +0000 (UTC) You bunch of nutheads! what a great film i really enjoyed it(specilally the end) the low-fi quality makes it even more special, Brilliant Per!is great hearing and seeing you people though i got really nostalgic specially being recently in the summer there in beautiful california with Rick,but i was also deeply hurt seeing all those fires going on recently in the peninsula i grew up which i dearly love... peace and love to all of you and hope to meet you some day! Luis --- kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > Same here... it isn't downloading for me. > > -- Kevin > > Quoting harryesq@aol.com: > > > Per - I'm trying to watch the .mov and it doesn't > seem to be > > downloading.? Is the link working?? Thanks, > > > > Harry > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 20:32:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 387803BECD; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:32:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=whs/aKK/UJY5n1MUqZh/dSNzfMbdfVJ94JMl4mAeHlI4laK+dASJmQl7od8ehJMABiezHLvIYJ3hSIH7p+w7spcAGvCsaD1WeBQ9caQ9UCdLMvo6uD+aCTFIqEI1fCc4Vw0U+caIHQ7gFGhLdcqprSAeZbsXosjotMbiSLOG3IU=; X-YMail-OSG: WNGac5QVM1mRfVT3T.Z6ZBLubNwHqM227HKbuMNoFrynjWygCqwfE6QI0wnAdT3u9nEZp0Y8axTZnaoeoytqx08cLgrA58pb9Q7LQkDhvJdBE9X7jHU- Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:32:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: RE: AXON AX 100 To: Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <000001c81bdb$d96ff500$6701a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <804506.64843.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:32:15 +0000 (UTC) i was always under the impression that hexaphonic pickups like the rmc would work better on a steel string for its sustain,but most people that mention it have it installed in their nylon acoustics,which seem to be harder to amplify,off course the godins are a whole different story but i wouldnt really consider them a classic/flamenco guitar,they definetly got their own sound going... Luis --- William Walker wrote: > The RMC pickup is the best for acoustic instruments, > I have one in my > flamenco guitar that works very well, but it > requires installation, So I > suggest you just give the Axon to me :-) > > Bill > > > > _____ > > From: Richard Sales [mailto:richard@glasswing.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 5:32 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: AXON AX 100 > > > > HI gang > > I'm sort of back! Have been busier than a whole > colony of fleas on a burning > cat! > > Just did a music video here at our farm this past > weekend that was insane - > 30 bicyclists, one authentic hippy VW bus, 11 member > film crew, 4 band > members. > > So question - have any of you used the AXON AX 100? > Has anyone used it with > an acoustic guitar? And do any of you know where to > get PICKUPS - especially > the hexaphonic pickup for acoustic guitars? I was > given the AX 100 and it > looks very cool. But it don't got no pickup! Argh!!! > It looks really > intriguing and I checked out videos of folks using > it and it seems pretty > stunning. > > Thanks in advance > richard sales > glassWing farm and studio > vancouver island, b.c. > 800.545.6846 > 250.752.4816 > www.glassWing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com > www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 20:35:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D50253BED9; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:35:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002201c81bfa$f89f69f0$e9de3dd0$@com> References: <002201c81bfa$f89f69f0$e9de3dd0$@com> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:35:14 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: square waves Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b57112048c8d43c9a67c8081e924c652ecbfdd489663e5c6b578e64350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.253.94 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:35:58 +0000 (UTC) The PCM-42 delay line has an LFO which is used to modulate the delay line, it can be used to create flange, chorus or wobbly echos. It has two waveforms available, triangle and square. If you use an expanded memory PCM-42 and modulate your loop with the square wave the effect will be similar to having someone switch the speed of a tape machine, with dramatic jumps in pitch and speed. >At the Y2K7 loopfest, Henry Kaiser explained that he used square >waves to modulate a PCM 42 (lexicon fx processor) to create his >loops. I really liked his performance. Did I misunderstand him? >Can anyone explain how this is done? > >-Qua -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 20:43:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 979EC3BED5; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20071031154309.940wyih9ck80skwg@69.89.21.76> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 15:43:09 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K7 Movie References: <925042.44002.qm@web38612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <925042.44002.qm@web38612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box76.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kevinkissinger.com Resent-Message-ID: <2NNkBC.A.BXB.gjOKHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Per, Thank you for shooting these videos and putting this movie together. Indeed, the low-fi/low-res of the cellphone camera gives it a spontaneous "you are here" effect. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 20:55:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EFAD3BED6; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: <002201c81bfa$f89f69f0$e9de3dd0$@com> In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: square waves Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 13:55:48 -0700 Message-ID: <002b01c81c00$6a8f8ef0$3faeacd0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acgb/wx6dNj3yPYcTS2RwPzSMYnu5QAAUBcw Content-Language: en-us X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: Dee29078400003987.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:55:53 +0000 (UTC) Ah, now that you've explained how it works, I do recall hearing pitch changes that were probably due to the modulation - it sounded great! -Qua -----Original Message----- From: Charles Zwicky [mailto:cazwicky@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 1:35 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: square waves The PCM-42 delay line has an LFO which is used to modulate the delay line, it can be used to create flange, chorus or wobbly echos. It has two waveforms available, triangle and square. If you use an expanded memory PCM-42 and modulate your loop with the square wave the effect will be similar to having someone switch the speed of a tape machine, with dramatic jumps in pitch and speed. >At the Y2K7 loopfest, Henry Kaiser explained that he used square >waves to modulate a PCM 42 (lexicon fx processor) to create his >loops. I really liked his performance. Did I misunderstand him? >Can anyone explain how this is done? > >-Qua -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 21:20:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C6C13BED3; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:20:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=+w5H7aVLEzHdUaiuu1h3/zXr+za7KNlpj6cVc9XCJHg=; b=cOBQzmCCP+pDfcqo0SZaEHWTKvxg6EbBRsJ7qqRgOkaxWbTZ1H4TILse+pkQ0NQr9AeDAXr/Tj0ULp7Y2xvbIFwkNwqgPIzd0ezEfX8Eni6PcDwpHJuGECLWUaCNfaEtCnaB8xNvo4HIQSaoraWtAtp3B7eNls/OeWdwS27WtGE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=UJzfRQFwMDIi+Qe/mOfh2u/SowZcz7Uz8ogHlDSO1GK9wUgIEvM25af8gKU280IJFBPf2cfY/tHEBaA3DItP1i+d3F9miLmwfyjfxqciaXQ3y0rOpVvH1flpTDL0DxZzYdipHxd7C7Rst1HiFmgtdrrWzRw5Z7A4xiaLtFnvRB4= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:20:52 +0100 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K7 Movie In-Reply-To: <925042.44002.qm@web38612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6781_14753307.1193865652506" References: <20071029170845.0jolgelomc44gs0k@69.89.21.76> <925042.44002.qm@web38612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:20:55 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_6781_14753307.1193865652506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline mad guys make mad clips !! what an end... i found the flashing chairs scene funnier than most comedy films today...ha,ha,. thanks for let us taste that bits, raul. 2007/10/31, L.A. Angulo : > > You bunch of nutheads! > what a great film i really enjoyed it(specilally the > end) > the low-fi quality makes it even more special, > Brilliant Per!is great hearing and seeing you people > though i got really nostalgic specially being recently > in the summer there in beautiful california with > Rick,but i was also deeply hurt seeing all those fires > going on recently in the peninsula i grew up which i > dearly love... > peace and love to all of you and hope to meet you some > day! > Luis > > --- kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > > > Same here... it isn't downloading for me. > > > > -- Kevin > > > > Quoting harryesq@aol.com: > > > > > Per - I'm trying to watch the .mov and it doesn't > > seem to be > > > downloading.? Is the link working?? Thanks, > > > > > > Harry > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_6781_14753307.1193865652506 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline mad guys make mad clips !!
    what an end...
    i found the flashing chairs
    scene funnier than most comedy films today...ha,ha,.

    thanks for let us taste that bits,
    raul.

    2007/10/31, L.A. Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com>:
    You bunch of nutheads!
    what a great film i really enjoyed it(specilally the
    end)
    the low-fi quality makes it even more special,
    Brilliant Per!is great hearing and seeing you people
    though i got really nostalgic specially being recently
    in the summer there in beautiful california with
    Rick,but i was also deeply hurt seeing all those fires
    going on recently in the peninsula i grew up which i
    dearly love...
    peace and love to all of you and hope to meet you some
    day!
    Luis

    --- kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote:

    > Same here... it isn't downloading for me.
    >
    > -- Kevin
    >
    > Quoting harryesq@aol.com:
    >
    > > Per - I'm trying to watch the .mov and it doesn't
    > seem to be
    > > downloading.? Is the link working?? Thanks,
    > >
    > > Harry
    >
    >
    >


    www.myspace.com/luisangulocom

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    TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_6781_14753307.1193865652506-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 21:34:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD5003BED5; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4045 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:34:35 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=R4LIS0Wx0phlgQCW3Q2EvwvnqQPNY0R/YZ/hrd3KJEEsry+81OHZOKq3f1AI8Vjk; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <11513730.1193862429668.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:27:09 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re:oingoboingo( new composition influenced by looping and some ramblings) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd485ac7a932beb5abe1e9404944575cebb04e508857176a6fc1350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.34 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:34:35 +0000 (UTC) i saw many a time the band-'Mystic Knights of the Oingo Boingo' here in san fran in the late 70s and early 80s- there stage show was wild-lots of people running around playing different instruments w/ dancers etc. didnt seem like the same band when they went socal and started writin pop songs(dead mans party etc). s -----Original Message----- >From: cpr@musetrap.com >Sent: Oct 31, 2007 12:43 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: new composition influenced by looping and some ramblings > >I have a deep 'elfman' connection, as I grew up listening to Oingo Boingo.. I >saw them play at universities (UC Irvine, and UCLA) before moving on to actual >concert venues.. :) > >peace >-cpr > >Quoting Per Boysen : > >> On Oct 31, 2007, at 17:18, kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: >> >> > Well, since I like Elfman's work I take it as a compliment. >> >> >> Obviously I need to take a new listen to Danny Elfman's work because >> to me the only "Elfmannish" in that has been the fakt that it was >> "made for use in movies". I must have missed some personal musical >> expression vibrating through all his work. Note taken - will listen up. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >> www.looproom.com (international) >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 21:47:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F22B3BEB8; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:47:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD08238E2E78@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> References: <45a487dd9853bbff044f53281cf7e69c@glasswing.com> <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD08238E2E78@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-811691612 Message-Id: <15df9f395adb94ab78cd60e1db29b679@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: OT: AXON, HTM, Stanley Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:47:36 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/75894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:47:42 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-811691612 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Ah! Memory is coming back! I remember emailing about this. Glad to hear they're still cooking. Did you try to get Stan to find out what you needed to know from Paul? I know he's of course incredibly busy and probably pretty burned out with questions about guitars etc. But he is a good guy. Just really busy. Vienna Virginia? I used to live in MaryLand. I called it The Bullseye! So many wonderful folks there. I do miss it. But I really love Canada now. Did you know Harold Howland in Vienna? Drummer. WHo is Richard McLish? 10 grand for an archtop? This last year I sold my 1956 Gibson ES 225TD. I loved it but just didn't play it. I've been pretty much doing acoustic guitar mostly for the past ten or so years... but use electrics as needed on recordings. And some of you might remember my snobbishness on stomp boxes etc when I started looping. Obviously, that's long down the toilet. My hunch is if you sit and wait long enough the prices of guitars are going to come down... along with the rest of the economy. I did lots of gigs with Happy The Man back in the DC area when I was there. I loved the band most when they had the drummer with the huge setup. The RMC pickup looks cool. Not wild about putting anything on my Collings - the guitar I use most live etc. It already has a K&K 3 way pickup in it that's amazing. I might butcher another acoustic guitar for the MIDI experiment. MIGHT put it on a Strat maybe. Too many options, not enough brain power to carve a path through. I'll check out the HTM reunion CD. Thanks again richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 31-Oct-07, at 11:31 AM, Dean, Hal wrote: > Richard- > > You can call me Hal (everyone makes that mistake). > > We corresponded briefly about HTM awhile back. I think I told you about > the HTM reunion, which yielded a new recording "The Muse Awakens", a > match for their 70s LPs... or darn close. > > I last talked to Stan as I was contemplating buying Kris's Archtop, > because Stan plays one. His comments sold me on it. > > Stan and Frank have a very HTM-ish band called Oblivion Sun, and they > just put out a CD. See http://oblivionsun.homestead.com/home.html. I > was > supposed to see them in Vienna, VA this past Sun. but bailed due to a > really persistent cold. I had seen them at Orion Sound in Baltimore > last > Fall - tremendous. Personally I'd like to see them doing newer-sounding > stuff, but they have an audience for what they do ( not exactly a > stadium-filler, but I think they can at least move some units online to > the far-flung HTM fan base). That said, with the exception of one > clunker the CD sounds great. Anyway, Stan is playing and singing > splendidly and is a happy, married guy. > > Stan and Frank built Paul Reed Smith's new studio and recorded the OS > CD > there. Frank has been a builder for many years. What role Stan played > in > this I can't say. They clearly remain close to Paul. > > Oddly, I found the support at PRS concerning the Archtop to be pretty > determinedly nonexistent. No wiring diagrams for the piezo-equipped > guitar, and a resolute message of "you're on your on". It probably in > the end is not important, though in reading more about the Graphtech > Ghost system today I find myself over my head when the electronics and > switching options are the topic. I'm hoping the guitar tech I'm talking > too will grasp all of this. > > By the way, Richard McClish is one of the nicest people you could ever > encounter. Unbelievably helpful, a real gentleman. When I was first > contemplating getting an archtop and was bewildered by the abundance of > options, most of them very costly, he sent me pictures of his > Buscarino. > That is about as gorgeous as guitars get. Got 10 grand lying around? > > One last - if you knew HTM you might also have known However. Those > guys are all still active to one degree or another. > > Cheers... oh, and I will say hi to SW for you. > > Hal Dean > > ________________________________ > > From: Richard Sales [mailto:richard@glasswing.com] > Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:13 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: AXON AX 100 > > > Thanks Dean > > Yup! I'm the guy who knew Stanley Whittaker. Do you know him? Have you > seen him lately? If you do, tell him Richard Sales from the Happy The > Man days and the Cellar Door says hello! > > I have (somewhat) kept up contact with Kit Watkins. Great player! No... > incredible player. He recorded on some of my stuff back in the stone > ages. > > I thought and still think Happy The Man was one of the most inventive > and listenable bands ever. I heard they might reunite. Any knowledge on > that? > > Stanley had one of the first PRS guitars I ever saw. At that time I > knew > Paul was fixing guitars but hadn't seen his own. He'd worked on my > guitars before that. Oh man! That guitar, and especially in Stanley's > hands, made me take another look at Paul. > > I would contact Paul or the PRS people about pickups on their guitars. > I > seem to remember he'd fiddled with the idea of MIDI pickups on his > guitars. > > Thanks again for all the data. I only know what the AXON can do from > the > demos on the Terratec site.... and it is incredible. > richard sales > glassWing farm and studio > vancouver island, b.c. > 800.545.6846 > 250.752.4816 > www.glassWing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com > www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com > On 31-Oct-07, at 6:03 AM, Dean, Hal wrote: > > > Richard, > > While there are those who argue that tracking with the Roland GK > system > is good, they are a distinct minority; I am not among them. The > majority > opinion, by far, is that either the RMC system or GraphTech's > Ghost > system are far superior in terms of tracking and accuracy. Both > operate > on the same principle - piezo saddle pickups that feed into a > "translator" module. The RMC system has been used in Godin's > MIDI-ready > guitars, such as the Multiac and LGXT, for years. I have both > those > guitars as well as an RMC-equipped classical guitar I had made. > > I am currently researching how to install a MIDI pickup system > in a Paul > Reed Smith Archtop (which BTW I bought from Kris Hartung) and > find that > Ghost may be more suitable in this instrument, for reasons I > won't go > into here. In the course of researching this I've seen comments > on the > midiguitar forum to the effect that the build quality, > specifically > connectors, and balance are not as good with Ghost; supposedly, > both > these issues can be overcome with some careful installation > techniques. > > Both RMC and Ghost systems will be costlier than the Roland > system. Both > can also provide a nice piezoelectric sound to blend with any > pickups > you have already. The Godin Multiac is a great acoustic guitar > with just > the piezo sound, and the MIDI capability. I will miss mine when > I sell > it - which I need to do to make up for buying the PRS! > > I would love to have an Axon. I have an older Roland GI-10. > Everyone > that has used the Axon and the Roland GI-10 or -20 says the Axon > is > better. You certainly have that part of the signal chain well > covered. > > Take a look at http://www.graphtech.com/ghost_info.php and > http://www.rmcpickup.com/. > > OT- Am I remembering you are the guy who knew Stanley Whitaker? > > Hal Dean > > ________________________________ > > > > > --Apple-Mail-1-811691612 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Ah! Memory is coming back! I remember emailing about this. Glad to hear they're still cooking. Did you try to get Stan to find out what you needed to know from Paul? I know he's of course incredibly busy and probably pretty burned out with questions about guitars etc. But he is a good guy. Just really busy. Vienna Virginia? I used to live in MaryLand. I called it The Bullseye! So many wonderful folks there. I do miss it. But I really love Canada now. Did you know Harold Howland in Vienna? Drummer. WHo is Richard McLish? 10 grand for an archtop? This last year I sold my 1956 Gibson ES 225TD. I loved it but just didn't play it. I've been pretty much doing acoustic guitar mostly for the past ten or so years... but use electrics as needed on recordings. And some of you might remember my snobbishness on stomp boxes etc when I started looping. Obviously, that's long down the toilet. My hunch is if you sit and wait long enough the prices of guitars are going to come down... along with the rest of the economy. I did lots of gigs with Happy The Man back in the DC area when I was there. I loved the band most when they had the drummer with the huge setup. The RMC pickup looks cool. Not wild about putting anything on my Collings - the guitar I use most live etc. It already has a K&K 3 way pickup in it that's amazing. I might butcher another acoustic guitar for the MIDI experiment. MIGHT put it on a Strat maybe. Too many options, not enough brain power to carve a path through. I'll check out the HTM reunion CD. Thanks again Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 31-Oct-07, at 11:31 AM, Dean, Hal wrote: Richard- You can call me Hal (everyone makes that mistake). We corresponded briefly about HTM awhile back. I think I told you about the HTM reunion, which yielded a new recording "The Muse Awakens", a match for their 70s LPs... or darn close. I last talked to Stan as I was contemplating buying Kris's Archtop, because Stan plays one. His comments sold me on it. Stan and Frank have a very HTM-ish band called Oblivion Sun, and they just put out a CD. See http://oblivionsun.homestead.com/home.html. I was supposed to see them in Vienna, VA this past Sun. but bailed due to a really persistent cold. I had seen them at Orion Sound in Baltimore last Fall - tremendous. Personally I'd like to see them doing newer-sounding stuff, but they have an audience for what they do ( not exactly a stadium-filler, but I think they can at least move some units online to the far-flung HTM fan base). That said, with the exception of one clunker the CD sounds great. Anyway, Stan is playing and singing splendidly and is a happy, married guy. Stan and Frank built Paul Reed Smith's new studio and recorded the OS CD there. Frank has been a builder for many years. What role Stan played in this I can't say. They clearly remain close to Paul. Oddly, I found the support at PRS concerning the Archtop to be pretty determinedly nonexistent. No wiring diagrams for the piezo-equipped guitar, and a resolute message of "you're on your on". It probably in the end is not important, though in reading more about the Graphtech Ghost system today I find myself over my head when the electronics and switching options are the topic. I'm hoping the guitar tech I'm talking too will grasp all of this. By the way, Richard McClish is one of the nicest people you could ever encounter. Unbelievably helpful, a real gentleman. When I was first contemplating getting an archtop and was bewildered by the abundance of options, most of them very costly, he sent me pictures of his Buscarino. That is about as gorgeous as guitars get. Got 10 grand lying around? One last - if you knew HTM you might also have known However. Those guys are all still active to one degree or another. Cheers... oh, and I will say hi to SW for you. Hal Dean ________________________________ From: Richard Sales [mailto:richard@glasswing.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:13 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AXON AX 100 Thanks Dean Yup! I'm the guy who knew Stanley Whittaker. Do you know him? Have you seen him lately? If you do, tell him Richard Sales from the Happy The Man days and the Cellar Door says hello! I have (somewhat) kept up contact with Kit Watkins. Great player! No... incredible player. He recorded on some of my stuff back in the stone ages. I thought and still think Happy The Man was one of the most inventive and listenable bands ever. I heard they might reunite. Any knowledge on that? Stanley had one of the first PRS guitars I ever saw. At that time I knew Paul was fixing guitars but hadn't seen his own. He'd worked on my guitars before that. Oh man! That guitar, and especially in Stanley's hands, made me take another look at Paul. I would contact Paul or the PRS people about pickups on their guitars. I seem to remember he'd fiddled with the idea of MIDI pickups on his guitars. Thanks again for all the data. I only know what the AXON can do from the demos on the Terratec site.... and it is incredible. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 31-Oct-07, at 6:03 AM, Dean, Hal wrote: Richard, While there are those who argue that tracking with the Roland GK system is good, they are a distinct minority; I am not among them. The majority opinion, by far, is that either the RMC system or GraphTech's Ghost system are far superior in terms of tracking and accuracy. Both operate on the same principle - piezo saddle pickups that feed into a "translator" module. The RMC system has been used in Godin's MIDI-ready guitars, such as the Multiac and LGXT, for years. I have both those guitars as well as an RMC-equipped classical guitar I had made. I am currently researching how to install a MIDI pickup system in a Paul Reed Smith Archtop (which BTW I bought from Kris Hartung) and find that Ghost may be more suitable in this instrument, for reasons I won't go into here. In the course of researching this I've seen comments on the midiguitar forum to the effect that the build quality, specifically connectors, and balance are not as good with Ghost; supposedly, both these issues can be overcome with some careful installation techniques. Both RMC and Ghost systems will be costlier than the Roland system. Both can also provide a nice piezoelectric sound to blend with any pickups you have already. The Godin Multiac is a great acoustic guitar with just the piezo sound, and the MIDI capability. I will miss mine when I sell it - which I need to do to make up for buying the PRS! I would love to have an Axon. I have an older Roland GI-10. Everyone that has used the Axon and the Roland GI-10 or -20 says the Axon is better. You certainly have that part of the signal chain well covered. Take a look at http://www.graphtech.com/ghost_info.php and http://www.rmcpickup.com/. OT- Am I remembering you are the guy who knew Stanley Whitaker? Hal Dean ________________________________ --Apple-Mail-1-811691612-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 31 22:47:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 578E73BECF; Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:47:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 18:47:30 EDT Subject: gig spam an dat! 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