From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 1 00:10:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6210B3BFAA; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 00:10:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.78.124] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070831174456.309553BFDE@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT fretless epoxy Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:10:22 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Sep 2007 00:10:27.0443 (UTC) FILETIME=[800D7430:01C7EC2C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 00:10:32 +0000 (UTC) good point about roundwound strings,I use flatwound thomastiks and prefer ebony fingerboard. Don't know that it effects guitars as much,roundwound guitar strings are drastically less course than bass strings,and less likely to get hammered against the neck funkthumb style. _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE small business Web site and more from Microsoft® Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/aub0930003811mrt/direct/01/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 1 02:35:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69D383BFF2; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 02:35:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0fe601c7ec40$c40b1070$fbb1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <0f1301c7ec16$2b3d45e0$fbb1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: Alternative to a laptop? Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 20:35:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0FE3_01C7EC0E.78852F00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 02:35:33 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0FE3_01C7EC0E.78852F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable So the mac OS uses no RAM? (steal, or whatever). This is surprising. = Does it just use the hard drive as memory for running system processes, = etc?=20 The article says: "There is a 2GB limit, however -- 2GB per process. So = any single application (again, barring something like Intel's PAE = extensions) is limited to 2GB." So this isn't a bad thing necessarily ("per app" being the key phrase), = especially if I am running my audio app (e.g, max/msp) + a separate = software app that controls my audio interface (mixer DSP, etc), or = perhaps a looping app as a standalone app, plus my audio interface = software, and any other supporiting apps. What performance orientated = audio app is going to use more than 2GB of RAM? Man, that would be = crazy, eh?=20 I think everythig is going to be all cool with a macbook pro and 4GB of = RAM. Until someone says that it is absolutely conclusive that 4GB will = no no good whatsoever when running my monster sofware performance = system, I have no issues with paying the extra for that 2GB of RAM.=20 Kris Here is the most succinct post I can find on the subject. I was a = little mixed up - it's not that 32-bit OS's can't see all 4GB, but at = least with PC architecture, about a gig of that 4 gigs will be assigned = to system level devices (video card, PCI bus, etc), leaving you with = less than 4GB. In addition, 32-bit apps can't access more than 2GB each = without PAE (which is a bad idea for an audio machine).=20 = http://dubiousquality.blogspot.com/2007/08/addressable-memory-in-32-bit-o= perating.html On a Macbook Pro, this RAM-shortage might not be a problem - WITH THE = NEW Santa Rosa platform. It is definitely a well-documented problem = with all other Mac/Intel platforms. The new "36-bit" chip allows access = to 4GB, and presumably (this is where I'm not positive) OSX can really = use it all because it doesn't do what Windoze does (steal some of it). = In addition, 32-bit Mac apps can still only access 2GB each.=20 Hope that helps. Doug ------=_NextPart_000_0FE3_01C7EC0E.78852F00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
So the mac OS uses no RAM? (steal, = or=20 whatever).  This is surprising. Does it just use the hard drive as = memory=20 for running system processes, etc?
 
The article says: "There is a 2GB = limit,=20 however -- 2GB per process. So any single application (again, barring = something=20 like Intel's PAE extensions) is limited to 2GB."
 
So this isn't a bad thing necessarily = ("per app"=20 being the key phrase), especially if I am running my audio app (e.g,=20 max/msp) + a separate software app that controls my audio interface = (mixer=20 DSP, etc), or perhaps a looping app as a standalone app, plus = my audio=20 interface software, and any other supporiting apps.  What = performance=20 orientated audio app is going to use more than 2GB of RAM? Man, that = would be=20 crazy, eh?
 
I think everythig is going to be all = cool with a=20 macbook pro and 4GB of RAM. Until someone says that it is absolutely = conclusive=20 that 4GB will no no good whatsoever when running my monster sofware = performance=20 system, I have no issues with paying the extra for that 2GB of RAM.=20

Kris
 
 
Here=20 is the most succinct post I can find on the subject.  I was a = little=20 mixed up - it's not that 32-bit OS's can't see all 4GB, but at least = with PC=20 architecture, about a gig of that 4 gigs will be assigned to system = level=20 devices (video card, PCI bus, etc), leaving you with less than = 4GB.  In=20 addition, 32-bit apps can't access more than 2GB each without PAE = (which is a=20 bad idea for an audio machine).

http://dubiousquality.blogspot.com/2007/08/address= able-memory-in-32-bit-operating.html

On=20 a Macbook Pro, this RAM-shortage might not be a problem - WITH THE NEW = Santa=20 Rosa platform.  It is definitely a well-documented problem with = all other=20 Mac/Intel platforms.  The new "36-bit" chip allows access to 4GB, = and=20 presumably (this is where I'm not positive) OSX can really use it all = because=20 it doesn't do what Windoze does (steal some of it).  In addition, = 32-bit=20 Mac apps can still only access 2GB each.

Hope that=20 helps.

Doug

------=_NextPart_000_0FE3_01C7EC0E.78852F00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 1 03:50:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49D7B3BFDC; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 03:50:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <82A0F1FF-4F1A-4294-8997-63FA3096A3C5@free.fr> References: <20070829173409.660E43BF78@arsenic.violacea.com> <82A0F1FF-4F1A-4294-8997-63FA3096A3C5@free.fr> Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 22:50:30 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Re: Keeping the off-topic off the list Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 03:50:36 +0000 (UTC) At 8:40 PM +0200 8/29/07, David Steinberg wrote: > >It's simple : people who subscribe to this list are interested in >reading and sharing informations about loopers and looping music, >and tangent subjects such as the instruments used, etc. are also of >interest to most of them. But that's it. Speak for yourself there. In my own case, I find the LD list to be one of the best collections of polymaths on any music-oriented Internet mailing list. Like all polymaths, the majority of its members are interested in many different fields. And just as they can post intelligently about looping-related subjects, they can post every bit as interestingly about pretty much anything. In other words, I'm here for the people, not just the "on-topic content". >That's why I think that another list could be a good thing. Of >course, it can only work if most of the "usual posters" here do >agree about this and use it. To be clear, I agree pretty much with Warren's sentiments earlier. Yet, I'm not really opposed to a parallel list, either (I even suggested that myself at one point). As Per and a few others have mentioned, it's relatively little work to simply filter it all into the same mailbox and go on business-as-usual. To that end, however, can you please post the direct address for subscribing to LDOT from a *non* Gmail email account? Google's being stupid (keeps trying to force me to create a new gmail addy with so much gobbledegook that I'll never remember the damn thing; yes, it's the system, because I'm already requesting things so ridiculously convoluted that there's no way anybody has these addresses). I'm rather irritated at them right now, and it would be much easier to simply send a "subscribe" command. Bugger-all this web-based garbage. :P Thanks in advance for any assistance! --m. -- _____ "the wind in my heart; the dust in my head...." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 1 04:06:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2EB63BFF7; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 04:06:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <20070829173409.660E43BF78@arsenic.violacea.com> <82A0F1FF-4F1A-4294-8997-63FA3096A3C5@free.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Larson Subject: Re: Keeping the off-topic off the list Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:05:56 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc25.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 04:06:12 +0000 (UTC) > On Aug 31, 2007, at 10:50 PM, Mech wrote: > I'm here for the people, not just the "on-topic content". Well said in few words. Bravo. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 1 05:57:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 589243BFF3; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 05:57:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <103901c7ec5c$f313dca0$fbb1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: PayPlay Digital Sales Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 23:57:15 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_1036_01C7EC2A.A7C6BE70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 05:57:18 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_1036_01C7EC2A.A7C6BE70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It's interesting when you sign up for something - in this case digital = sales via CD Baby - and forget it until you see your name pop up on a = Google search. This just popped up. Apparently, a few of my CDs are = available in MP3 format now, complete with re-produced CD artwork with = cut lines, etc. Amazing. I had no idea. http://payplay.fm/artist/Krispen+Hartung Kris ------=_NextPart_000_1036_01C7EC2A.A7C6BE70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It's interesting when you sign up for = something -=20 in this case digital sales via CD Baby - and forget it until you see = your name=20 pop up on a Google search.  This just popped up. =  Apparently, a=20 few of my CDs are available in MP3 format now, complete with re-produced = CD=20 artwork with cut lines, etc. Amazing. I had no idea.
 
http://payplay.fm/artis= t/Krispen+Hartung
 
Kris
 
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 Dear Sir/ Madam,
 
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Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. --0-592078966-1188636674=:76325-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 1 11:23:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93CB43BF3A; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 11:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: OT: mastering Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 13:23:35 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000f01c7ec8a$893fa4c0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <46D87E3A.8060900@mhorse.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcfsEBWj5t2exYJQSLC3gZgQrcaomQAefa7Q X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD10+29g0ZJrw0Eew== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 11:23:14 +0000 (UTC) > Er...no. It's neither automated nor non-creative, unless > you're referring to the process of simply running it through > software which can be done with some basic results. Mastering Here, we're using different terminology. I was referring to the process of taking a red-book-compliant digital source and using that to make a glass master (hence the name "mastering"). This process a) will always work if the source is red-book compliant b) has no parameters to adjust Both a) and b) were/are not true in the world of vinyl. What you are referring to using the term "mastering" is the process of preparing that red-book compliant digital source. And for that I think we all agree that it is creative a process, and that's why I started this thread. I do however still believe that the TC Electronics Finalizer when used gently does good work. And as I got one quite cheaply, this investment made sense for the converters alone ;) Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 1 17:22:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61AEC3BF58; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 17:22:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <103901c7ec5c$f313dca0$fbb1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <103901c7ec5c$f313dca0$fbb1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--93274675 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: PayPlay Digital Sales Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 10:22:02 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 17:22:08 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--93274675 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Kris, Yep. . . . ain't CD Baby wunderful? I cannot recommend their services highly enough. They're terrific (and they're in Portland, Oregon too). They've opened more sales doors for me than almost anything else. I need to get another CD out . . . someday. My one and only solo disk so far was from 2001. I imagined I'd be poppin' 'em out on a schedule similar to yours. Life has a way of reorganizing one's priorities . . . and schedule. That and the first CD turned out so well, I'm actually a little nervous =20= about starting another. I gotta get over that. tEd =AE KiLLiAn Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?=20 playListId=3D6378076 Also check out the 1st set of BEMF (Boise Experimental Music Festival) =20= CDs at: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/cd.htm http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?=20 step=3Dview_profile&id=3D1211970 00042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? On Aug 31, 2007, at 10:57 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > It's interesting when you sign up for something - in this case digital = =20 > sales via CD Baby - and forget it until you see your name pop up on a =20= > Google search.=A0 This just popped up. =A0Apparently,=A0a few of my = CDs are =20 > available in MP3 format now, complete with re-produced CD artwork with = =20 > cut lines, etc. Amazing. I had no idea. > =A0 > http://payplay.fm/artist/Krispen+Hartung > =A0 > Kris --Apple-Mail-1--93274675 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Kris, Yep. . . . ain't CD Baby wunderful?=20 I cannot recommend their services highly enough. They're terrific (and they're in Portland, Oregon too). They've opened more sales doors for me than almost anything else. I need to get another CD out . . . someday. My one and only solo disk so far was from 2001. I imagined I'd be poppin' 'em out on a schedule similar to yours. Life has a way of reorganizing one's priorities . . . and schedule. That and the first CD turned out so well, I'm actually a little nervous about starting another. I gotta get over that. tEd =AE KiLLiAn = CourierFFFE,0C0B,0000Diff= erent is not always better, but better is always different" =20 7F7E,7A79,7A79Flux Aeterna:=20 = http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=3D6= 378076=20 Also check out the 1st set of BEMF (Boise Experimental Music Festival) CDs at:=20 http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/cd.htm=20 =20 http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html=20 http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian=20 http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html=20 http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina=20 http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073=20 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314=20 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193=20 = http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D1211970 00042=20 =20 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes,=20 BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster,=20 AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream,=20 RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks,=20 and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? = On Aug 31, 2007, at 10:57 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: ArialIt's interesting when you sign up for something - in this case digital sales via CD Baby - and forget it until you see your name pop up on a Google search.=A0 This just popped up. =A0Apparently,=A0a few of my CDs = are available in MP3 format now, complete with re-produced CD artwork with cut lines, etc. Amazing. I had no idea. =A0 = Arial0000,0000,EEEEhttp://payplay.fm/artist/Krispen+Hartung =A0 ArialKris --Apple-Mail-1--93274675-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 1 18:24:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 28EBD3BF73; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 18:24:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <103901c7ec5c$f313dca0$fbb1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-13--89542217 Message-Id: From: Rev Fever Subject: Re: PayPlay Digital Sales (CD Baby) Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 11:24:15 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <98d5eC.A.h1H.T5a2GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 18:24:20 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-13--89542217 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hear! Hear! I fully agree with Ted's comments! (Shameless Promotion Dept.) Thanx to the Baby, my first ELEMENTAL CD, "Lux Aeternae" has finally =20= SOLD OUT! DD sales will still be available, but I am not sure if I will be able =20= to re-issue it as a physical product? As usual, $$ is TIGHT. (Oh well, at least I have a home and am not living under a bridge =20 somewhere, and are not starving,etc. Life COULD be worse, so always COUNT yer blessings! ) I also am a little antsy about self-producing CDrs of it, but might=20 (?) look into that later. I have heard that CDrs are not always reliable to be played on just =20 any CD player anywhere. Is that still true? (OR...?) But now, my 2nd one, "Thee Divine Imagination" continues to sell, =20 both DD and as a physical product. I guess the time has come for a new ELEMENTAL. I would be up for =20 doin' that. Eventually... :-) -Rev. Fever On Sep 1, 2007, at 10:22 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote: > Kris, > > Yep. . . . ain't CD Baby wunderful? > > I cannot recommend their services highly enough. > > They're terrific (and they're in Portland, Oregon too). > > They've opened more sales doors for me than almost anything else. > > I need to get another CD out . . . someday. > > My one and only solo disk so far was from 2001. > > I imagined I'd be poppin' 'em out on a schedule similar to yours. > > Life has a way of reorganizing one's priorities . . . and schedule. > > That and the first CD turned out so well, I'm actually a little =20 > nervous about starting another. > > I gotta get over that. > > tEd =AE KiLLiAn > > Different is not always better, but better is always different" > > Flux Aeterna: > http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?=20 > playListId=3D6378076 > > Also check out the 1st set of BEMF (Boise Experimental Music =20 > Festival) CDs at: > http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/cd.htm > > http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html > http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian > http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html > http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina > http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 > http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 > http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 > http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?=20 > step=3Dview_profile&id=3D1211970 > 00042 > > Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, > BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, > AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, > RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, > and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? > > On Aug 31, 2007, at 10:57 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> It's interesting when you sign up for something - in this case =20 >> digital sales via CD Baby - and forget it until you see your name =20 >> pop up on a Google search. This just popped up. Apparently, a =20 >> few of my CDs are available in MP3 format now, complete with re-=20 >> produced CD artwork with cut lines, etc. Amazing. I had no idea. >> >> http://payplay.fm/artist/Krispen+Hartung >> >> Kris > --Apple-Mail-13--89542217 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hear! Hear!=A0 I fully agree = with Ted's=A0 comments!

(Shameless Promotion = Dept.)
Thanx to the Baby, my first ELEMENTAL CD, "Lux = Aeternae"=A0 has finally SOLD OUT!
DD sales will still be = available, but I am not sure if I will be able to re-issue it as a = physical product?=A0
As usual, $$ is TIGHT.

(Oh well, at least I have a = home and am not living under a bridge somewhere, and are not = starving,etc.
Life COULD be worse, so always COUNT yer = blessings! )

I = also am a little antsy about self-producing CDrs of it, but might(?) = look into that later.
I have heard that CDrs are not always = reliable to be played on just any CD player anywhere.=A0
Is = that still true?=A0 (OR...?)

But=A0now, my 2nd one, = "Thee Divine Imagination" continues to sell, both DD and as a physical = product.

I = guess the time has come for a new ELEMENTAL.=A0 I would be up for doin' = that. Eventually... :-)

-Rev. Fever

On Sep 1, 2007, = at 10:22 AM, tEd =AE KiLLiAn wrote:

Kris,

Yep. . . . ain't CD Baby wunderful?=A0

I cannot = recommend their services highly enough.

They're = terrific (and they're in Portland, Oregon too).

They've = opened more sales doors for me than almost anything = else.

I need to get another CD out . . . = someday.

My one and only solo disk so far was from = 2001.

I imagined I'd be poppin' 'em out on a schedule = similar to yours.

Life has a way of reorganizing one's priorities . . . = and schedule.

That and the first CD turned out so well, I'm actually = a little nervous about starting another.

I gotta = get over that.

tEd =AE KiLLiAn
Different is not always better, but better is always = different"=A0
=A0
Flux Aeterna:=A0

Also check out the 1st = set of BEMF (Boise Experimental Music Festival) CDs at:=A0
=A0
http://www.guitar9.com/fl= uxaeterna.html=A0
00042=A0
=A0
Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available = at: Apple iTunes,=A0
BuyMusic, Rhapsody, = MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster,=A0
AudioLunchbox, Lindows, = QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream,=A0
RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony = Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks,=A0
and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, = yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So???=A0

On Aug = 31, 2007, at 10:57 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:

It's interesting when you sign up for something - in this = case digital sales via CD Baby - and forget it until you see your name = pop up on a Google search.=A0 This just popped up. =A0Apparently,=A0a = few of my CDs are available in MP3 format now, complete with re-produced = CD artwork with cut lines, etc. Amazing. I had no idea.

=A0

=A0

Kris
=

=
= --Apple-Mail-13--89542217-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 1 21:09:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B33583BF62; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 21:09:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <20070901182420.9C8623BF5E@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20070901182420.9C8623BF5E@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8--79699224 Message-Id: <02A88F3E-EA2B-4B2C-85B0-86FB2EFE78C4@free.fr> From: David Steinberg Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=E9p_:_Keeping_the_off-topic_off_the_list?= Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:08:18 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 21:09:05 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8--79699224 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi, > De : Mech > Date : 1 septembre 2007 05:50:30 HAEC > Objet : R=E9p : Keeping the off-topic off the list > > To be clear, I agree pretty much with Warren's sentiments earlier. =20 > Yet, I'm not really opposed to a parallel list, either (I even =20 > suggested that myself at one point). As Per and a few others have =20 > mentioned, it's relatively little work to simply filter it all into =20= > the same mailbox and go on business-as-usual. Well, as I explained before there are also people who use the digest =20 version. It's just another way of reading emails, I've been doing =20 this for most of the lists that I read for years. But I suspect that =20 I'm part of a minority here :) If people used subjects that are actually related to the content and =20 if everyone erased the unnecessary parts of the previous mails =20 they're responding to, the digests would be far easier to read and =20 navigate, by the way... > To that end, however, can you please post the direct address for =20 > subscribing to LDOT from a *non* Gmail email account? Google's =20 > being stupid (keeps trying to force me to create a new gmail addy =20 > with so much gobbledegook that I'll never remember the damn thing; =20 > yes, it's the system, because I'm already requesting things so =20 > ridiculously convoluted that there's no way anybody has these =20 > addresses). I'm rather irritated at them right now, and it would =20 > be much easier to simply send a "subscribe" command. Bugger-all =20 > this web-based garbage. :P It should be : loopers-delight-off-topic-subscribe@googlegroups.com And to unsub : loopers-delight-off-topic-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com And the homepage is : http://groups.google.fr/group/loopers-delight-off-topic I should have mentioned this in the initial email, sorry. And the following page gives more info about what you can do with a =20 google account that you can't do without one (I wasn't aware of this =20 until I found this page) : http://groups.google.com/support/bin/=20 answer.py?answer=3D46438&topic=3D9244 I made a googlegroup because it was quite simple to do and because =20 yahoogroups are just horrible :) As I said earlier, I just did this to help when people started to =20 complain about the content of the mails from the list recently. No one is forced to do anything but this is just another available =20 option... Hope this helps, "Simulating the true styles and making carefully. Many colours a lot, selected freely by you !" --Apple-Mail-8--79699224 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Hi,

De : Mech <mech@m3ch.net>
Date : 1 septembre 2007 05:50:30 = HAEC
Objet : R=E9p : Keeping the = off-topic off the list

To be clear, I agree pretty much = with Warren's sentiments earlier. Yet, I'm not really opposed to a = parallel list, either (I even suggested that myself at one point).=A0 As Per and a few others have = mentioned, it's relatively little work to simply filter it all into the = same mailbox and go on business-as-usual.

Well, as I explained before = there are also people who use the digest version. It's just another way = of reading emails, I've been doing this for most of the lists that I = read for years.=A0But I suspect that I'm part of a minority here = :)

If people = used subjects that are actually related to the content and if everyone = erased the unnecessary parts of the previous mails they're responding = to, the digests would be far easier to read and navigate, by the = way...

To that end, = however, can you please post the direct address for subscribing to LDOT = from a *non* Gmail email account?=A0= Google's being stupid (keeps trying to force me to create a new = gmail addy with so much gobbledegook that I'll never remember the damn = thing; yes, it's the system, because I'm already requesting things so = ridiculously convoluted that there's no way anybody has these = addresses).=A0 I'm rather = irritated at them right now, and it would be much easier to simply send = a "subscribe" command.=A0 = Bugger-all this web-based garbage.=A0 :P

It should be :
And to = unsub :

And the homepage is = :

I should have mentioned = this in the initial email, sorry.

And the following page = gives more info about what you can do with a google account that you = can't do without one (I wasn't aware of this until I found this page) = :=A0http://groups.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=3D46438&am= p;topic=3D9244

I made a googlegroup = because it was quite simple to do and because yahoogroups are just = horrible :)

As = I said earlier, I just did this to help when people started to complain = about the content of the mails from the list recently.
No one = is forced to do anything but this is just another available = option...=A0

Hope this helps,
"Simulating the true styles = and making carefully.
=A0Many colours a lot, selected freely = by you !"



= --Apple-Mail-8--79699224-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 1 21:24:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D080D3BF2E; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 21:24:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=R4yqCDNf5L8uIijddcFeKtRWI5eQaXhdwqljLpjAkNBQom9HDn7vziLfu/ZtinO1D/dR6a1Z37yk0A0BY4eQsBJCpXnF3fySoTUXATmVzU0tTSxMHH7foT8VGR+RY8EXgx2ZumzjJddkiBVnJbkPZsx/5pKSJpxG4NEb8StYkKs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=d5lrvPISGVuwVPL09BGgOBQ/I60jIfT+tlvGbNXGqPB0LqyMi8sKpXVxjXQfMflSw8ntdxfx8S7p650SLpT3l2nksy4ulJ42ZVyHJP3ybt33oj1wJnUue3gbiViAu2h5y9UmmTwle/ZEu4dUyj5ZxTqk5tKw2R6Qcfw0k0b4ukk= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <003501c7eba4$3f8f5370$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <56919A59-4F0C-436A-9125-360E33BDC0C2@gmail.com> <003501c7eba4$3f8f5370$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2DFF7B9C-FB59-46CA-93B5-40DD0FC8447E@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: live(streamning) from punkt - Hassel - Molvaer Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:23:45 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 21:24:06 +0000 (UTC) >>> One of Norways most exiting Festivals Featuring Jon >>> Hassel - Peter Schwab - Michyo Yagi- Nils Petter >>> Molvaer and many more. > > did anyone see Jon Hassell's set? I missed it - ack. Too bad > because I've > never seen nor heard his Solid State piece. I hope it's gonna be > archived > (there is an archive on www.buggesroom.com, containing lots of > interesting > stuff such as a piece by the Eivind Aarset group ... btw Eivind has > done a > new CD and I expect it to land in my postbox today !!) > > -Michael www.michaelpeters.de Hassel is playing any minute now, it seems. They've been sound- checking the stage for a while and just did an ensemble test. Sounds as good as when I heard him live last time in 1984. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 1 21:56:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AEE8A3BF49; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 21:56:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 17:56:26 -0400 From: Warren Sirota Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RE:_R=E9p_:_Keeping_the_off-topic_off_the_list?= In-reply-to: <02A88F3E-EA2B-4B2C-85B0-86FB2EFE78C4@free.fr> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <006701c7ece2$f1ec2ea0$3702a8c0@macbookxp> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ASFSQumyPryXNjmk3mjXoQ)" Thread-index: Acfs3FI8eKfegVdhQfGNmsmfj2FRJAAA3Kxw References: <20070901182420.9C8623BF5E@arsenic.violacea.com> <02A88F3E-EA2B-4B2C-85B0-86FB2EFE78C4@free.fr> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 21:56:34 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_ASFSQumyPryXNjmk3mjXoQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, I can see why many things would be problematic in a digest = version. What I don=92t quite get is why anyone would prefer the digest version, = when, with the modern auto-sorting capabilities of email clients, it=92s so = much easier to scan and manage everything quickly in non-digest format. =20 _____ =20 From: David Steinberg [mailto:waveform@free.fr]=20 Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 5:08 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: R=E9p : Keeping the off-topic off the list =20 =85 =20 Well, as I explained before there are also people who use the digest version. It's just another way of reading emails, I've been doing this = for most of the lists that I read for years. But I suspect that I'm part of = a minority here :) =20 If people used subjects that are actually related to the content and if everyone erased the unnecessary parts of the previous mails they're responding to, the digests would be far easier to read and navigate, by = the way... =85 =20 Excuse my venting, Not that my opinion has or should have any weight = here, but I find it to be a pain to be constantly nagged about this. There = must be something I=92m not getting about why the digest folks persist in that = view other than habit (does it have to do with connection speed?), but, regardless of my opinion of that, I don=92t see it as a no-brainer that everyone else should be inconvenienced so the digest readers can have it = all just the way they like it (I=92m sorry to make such a =93they=94 out of = you. I don=92t know quite how else to say it). I have to admit, I know nothing = about the relative numbers of subscribers in these formats. =20 The bifurcation of the lists is fun =96 it=92s nice to be free of the = topic police in the OT list =96 but it is already obvious that it=92s quite = absurd. There=92s been plenty of loop-related discussion on the OT list. The = running joke there has become =93no, no =96 you=92re not allowed ON topic = here!=94 Personally, I=92d rather see all Repeater-specific discussions moved to = a different list, and a permanent Wiki established for the eternal laptop-vs-hw debate! :-) =20 And, of course, the whole Off-On topic debate is OT to this list, and = has generated more OT messages by far than the book thread that spawned it. = But that=92s the nature of group deliberations, I guess. =20 Warren =20 --Boundary_(ID_ASFSQumyPryXNjmk3mjXoQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Yeah, I can see why many things = would be problematic in a digest version. What I don’t quite get is why = anyone would prefer the digest version, when, with the modern auto-sorting capabilities of email clients, it’s so much easier to scan and = manage everything quickly in non-digest format.

 

From: David = Steinberg [mailto:waveform@free.fr]
Sent: Saturday, September = 01, 2007 5:08 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: R=E9p : Keeping = the off-topic off the list

 

…

 

Well, as I explained before there are also people who use the = digest version. It's just another way of reading emails, I've been doing this = for most of the lists that I read for years. But I suspect that I'm part of = a minority here :)

 

If people used subjects that are actually related to the content = and if everyone erased the unnecessary parts of the previous mails they're = responding to, the digests would be far easier to read and navigate, by the = way...


…

 

Excuse my venting, Not that my opinion has or should have any weight here, but I = find it to be a pain to be constantly nagged about this. There must be something = I’m not getting about why the digest folks persist in that view other than = habit (does it have to do with connection speed?), but, regardless of my = opinion of that, I don’t see it as a no-brainer that everyone else should be inconvenienced so the digest readers can have it all just the way they = like it (I’m sorry to make such a “they” out of you. I = don’t know quite how else to say it). I have to admit, I know nothing about = the relative numbers of subscribers in these = formats.

 =

The bifurcation of the lists is fun – it’s nice to be free of = the topic police in the OT list – but it is already obvious that it’s = quite absurd. There’s been plenty of loop-related discussion on the OT = list. The running joke there has become “no, no – you’re not = allowed ON topic here!” Personally, I’d rather see all = Repeater-specific discussions moved to a different list, and a permanent Wiki established for the = eternal laptop-vs-hw debate! :-)

 =

And, of course, the whole Off-On topic debate is OT to this list, and has = generated more OT messages by far than the book thread that spawned it. But = that’s the nature of group deliberations, I guess.

 =

Warren=

 

--Boundary_(ID_ASFSQumyPryXNjmk3mjXoQ)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 1 23:01:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 668B13BF5A; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:01:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: re;OT favorite mastering chain Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:01:41 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000601c7ecec$0f4e86b0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <791932.68406.qm@web32704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-index: AcfsI04A3etRipO3QtSh3cxd4Ue3GAAyKR5g X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OIWABpYKfA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: <0vrxCC.A.i2E.D9e2GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:01:23 +0000 (UTC) Are you using analogue source tape, or only analogue mastering gear? Why? Rainer > I go from mixed tape to EQ, to Valley 440 dynamics > processors, to BBE Maximizer, to recording device. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 1 23:07:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 027583BF7C; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=jfdKYcrI8MLGvSdt12cup488dtm51jPkjXKlqyKt94xikfefW9CYb/5PJrvj2/PWwOgsut2RpIbyNFXtxgRBYxk7SgI7CuE/O7VxgsoRjhYN7OQsi3PD6RjznHs22/fACQRnxqTiRnpMIJsPfftV1HRdBFXg2ME9fQV9ne+1JHg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=j0dvjmQUXOeyA8E/n3CfARVbzbXi99hfkg++U7DuHlncfETdJEbK2IOAmwDzfP/T93rJRc/cD4WWxYVSoxoVzecTePrr259nYBNMPlleXF1kMOI5c8A6oVn5t7gQ/ro/S1XbhzvVQp1trVHN68BNEEUp2L/A8V7Ak3Vt76eFykw= In-Reply-To: <008101c7eceb$12998870$3702a8c0@macbookxp> References: <008101c7eceb$12998870$3702a8c0@macbookxp> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2E6CE399-D660-4CBB-B553-2BF89FC107F1@gmail.com> Cc: Loopers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Hassel on topic at Punkt Festival Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:06:56 +0200 To: loopers-delight-off-topic@googlegroups.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:07:01 +0000 (UTC) On 2 sep 2007, at 00.54, Warren Sirota wrote: > I'm trying to look at the streaming video, but it doesn't seem to > be working > (you're talking about the "Tonights Live Concert" link, right?) Yep. I copied the live stream URL into the Quicktime player and snagged it with Audio HiJack Pro (Mac rocks!). If you want to listen I posted the mp3 at http://www.looproom.com/audio/Jon_Hassell_Live_Remix_Punkt_Festival.mp3 CC'ing this to the On Topic list as well, since I heard Hassel do some looping at the end of the piece, although it was only one repeat (zero feedback) and a very long loop. Going to bed now. Good night from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 1 23:26:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FD5D3BF7D; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:26:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 16:27:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:26:46 +0000 (UTC) Since we are devoting so much energy to discussing this possibilitiy of an offtopic list Honestly, I think there are far fewer people who object to off topic posts here than we are surmising but I realize I don't know for sure. Why don't we find out. Please tell us what you think. 1) There should be an offtopic list that resides off of this site 2) It's fine , we can leave things the way they are. To make this quick, just leave a 1) or a 2) in your message body. As a matter of fact, let's not inundate the list with more discussion on this particular thread. Just quickly log in with your preference....................explain away in the previous OT: posts. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 1 23:30:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2107A3BF74; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:30:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=ennXquzSmJxUmU3UpGMYK7suiVX8Fd+1p3n/6JdIadx3YgxF3XBcu2/9YSf9/wGN; h=Received:In-Reply-To:References:Mime-Version:X-Priority:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; In-Reply-To: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <8D62C84A-C431-4FA5-93B8-308ABA2E34FF@earthlink.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Coffin Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 16:30:25 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-ELNK-Trace: 0cf8a1273a73c9ff1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec79a16ffda15d9b1eb2bc2697f652331f14350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.118.67.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:30:31 +0000 (UTC) 2 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 1 23:52:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A09C3BF77; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:52:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.3.060209 Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 00:52:06 +0100 Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight From: Greg Mills To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Thread-Index: Acfs8xn0WM5kkFjmEdyZ1QAKlaVu8g== In-Reply-To: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:52:12 +0000 (UTC) > Why don't we find out. > > > Please tell us what you think. One of the neat things I like about forums is the ability to set up polls like this very simply, and display the results quickly. Oh damn, I mentioned that word again. I heard somewhere that if someone mentions the word 'forum' three times in the same post, LD will become invisible to search engines and it's members will develop anterograde amnesia... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Sep 1 23:59:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C26D43BF7F; Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:59:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1188691167.46d9fcdf75b39@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 18:59:27 -0500 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> In-Reply-To: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 24.6.254.52 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:59:29 +0000 (UTC) Quoting RICK WALKER : > Please tell us what you think. > 1) There should be an offtopic list that resides off of this site > > 2) It's fine , we can leave things the way they are. > > To make this quick, just leave a 1) or a 2) in your message body. I vote 2.. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 00:01:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C43E23BF8A; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:01:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_KiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 17:01:01 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:01:02 +0000 (UTC) > 2) It's fine , we can leave things the way they are. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 00:01:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2B683BF9A; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:01:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <037E696C-F2AA-4F78-9A76-BB654BE59E70@midway.uchicago.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Shirkey Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 19:03:01 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:01:15 +0000 (UTC) 2 I got a good salsa recipe from this list (among other OT things). :) Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 00:11:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FB2D3BF93; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:11:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00cd01c7ecf5$cd2f24b0$6401a8c0@YOUR8D89FFE59A> From: "Dave O'Heare" To: References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 20:11:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000771-1, 01/09/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:11:32 +0000 (UTC) 2 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 00:13:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FD893BF96; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:13:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=FnJmhSVnUcf4ckeUoIGuDCZ5VlXjxZtIJg0/bs3NZ8wz5Z9D1QL6uKtWerseWBbhhLeSGqzQOTX0GSvj6bGSiyoXYq2vsRfe/k2FxW0vMLEVQWDmN7B35vGzJmLDux1/AIo47N+XakzrEsIJzGPoYqLkC6c8E5i75znZuabaxqY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Cn2fA7NtfEpTJ7Dk5FxvOMxorIpbzoRi2ZERvLnJfOflrSgIpYnbYrFtoD0n0MfrD7RX34CSQX1IOKe6WjsLxiDcIz3ytswgLMGnCdzOfL42LUma0I76aJ1NjMBtlNSPFIpMruCTUHImIsPNggAWcb+rJ32mvBBRjpPLdM/Tw0A= Message-ID: <4759e5740709011713x4d41651erdee0f70ecd93aa8a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 20:13:47 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4432_8264662.1188692027317" References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:13:49 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4432_8264662.1188692027317 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2 On 9/1/07, RICK WALKER wrote: > > Since we are devoting so much energy to discussing this > possibilitiy of an offtopic list > > Honestly, I think there are far fewer people who object to off topic > posts > here > than we are surmising but I realize I don't know for sure. > > Why don't we find out. > > > Please tell us what you think. > > > 1) There should be an offtopic list that resides off of this site > > 2) It's fine , we can leave things the way they are. > > To make this quick, just leave a 1) or a 2) in your message body. > > As a matter of fact, let's not inundate the list with more discussion on > this particular thread. > Just quickly log in with your preference....................explain away > in > the previous OT: posts. > > -- http://www.toddreynolds.com |: http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic |: ------------------------------------------------------|: 917.576.6166 todd@toddreynolds.com toddreyn@gmail.com ------=_Part_4432_8264662.1188692027317 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2



On 9/1/07, RICK WALKER <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
Since we are devoting so much energy to discussing this
possibilitiy of an offtopic list

Honestly,  I think there are far fewer people who object to off topic posts
here
than we are surmising but I realize I don't know for sure.

Why don't we find out.


Please tell us what you think.


1)  There should be an offtopic list that resides off of this site

2)   It's fine , we can leave things the way they are.

To make this quick,     just leave a 1) or a 2)   in your message body.

As a matter of fact,  let's not inundate the list with more discussion on
this particular thread.
Just quickly log in with your preference....................explain away in
the previous OT: posts.




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917.576.6166                                               
todd@toddreynolds.com
toddreyn@gmail.com
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For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 00:22:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B82D3BF6E; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:22:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070901192246.4g4hwktqlcks4okg@69.89.21.76> Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:22:46 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: LoopersDelight Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <4759e5740709011713x4d41651erdee0f70ecd93aa8a@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4759e5740709011713x4d41651erdee0f70ecd93aa8a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - box76.bluehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kevinkissinger.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:22:49 +0000 (UTC) 2) It's fine , we can leave things the way they are. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 00:23:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E3CB3BF88; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:23:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: loopbozo@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 00:23:46 +0000 Message-Id: <090220070023.18989.46DA029200096E0700004A2D22070215530196010D9F010104@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bG9vcGJvem9AY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_18989_1188692626_0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:23:49 +0000 (UTC) --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_18989_1188692626_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 2) It's fine , we can leave things the way they are. But first we tie Captain Flint to the mainmast and give him 100 lashes, ten for each miserable years he's made us suffer the indignities of this loopers list.and then set him free in his tiny dinghy. sincerely, the seaman of the SS Unssubscribe -- Music and Mosaics bryanhelm.wordpress.com --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_18989_1188692626_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
2)   It's fine , we can leave things the way they are.
But first we tie Captain Flint to the mainmast and give him 100 lashes, ten for each miserable years he's made us suffer the indignities of this loopers list.and then set him free in his tiny dinghy.
 
                                                                  sincerely,
                                                                                 the seaman of the SS Unssubscribe  
 
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--Apple-Mail-9--65550515-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 01:04:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB9523BFB2; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:04:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.4 X-EN-IMPSID: jD4N1X00105G96J0000000 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 18:04:08 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Echevarria Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-EN-UserInfo: 4e12c5fe79f298d3e0334846d6e14b72:75caded3a5c52cf5820480c3dbce8e31 X-EN-AuthUser: seancreepingfog Sender: Sean Echevarria X-EN-OrigIP: 64.121.34.10 X-EN-OrigHost: 64-121-34-10.c3-0.snmt-ubr1.sfrn-snmt.ca.static.cable.rcn.com Message-Id: <20070902010423.4B1A83BF89@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:04:23 +0000 (UTC) 2 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 01:10:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77B493BF2D; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:10:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=l6xJ2VqpQCGz9Du7TC0i3+RxLIwPyCOhbiqz/LtzJxgoj9lXU2XguqZjeKV5Be6aDHb6DBJrcRH3efqjWJzQBpKOSSeU7eKhWhyNuRjJH2JdCdPnV8+76DwSRcTcGoshIxNTv613KiVAACs13OcjzpnyvpvIvvIi/NdobUaygEs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=J50602JA//iLt277rA8mKyARu5yuIK1Gp9TemGCLXYL4IvgD+nTaNYYexcLE87YVC9SZdOFwro2jOVjQO2ahbLjQOFluCmgFF7/vkDtt6xYhOXH6TplVgtpQFk//H7eOyX9f5yTJYHNdsA2KFiDEFwWrXje+zay0F6gdDhCSm6k= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 20:10:21 -0500 From: "Doug Cox" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <20070902010423.4B1A83BF89@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3800_24643215.1188695421044" References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <20070902010423.4B1A83BF89@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:10:22 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3800_24643215.1188695421044 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline too. I mean to. tu. ------=_Part_3800_24643215.1188695421044 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline too.

I mean to.

tu.
------=_Part_3800_24643215.1188695421044-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 01:10:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1593F3BF99; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:10:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=CsNvG0tRh/hCMKcoM8HtZOGNb2EuNZ0gaNEVp18db7oYCLogbKZDJ5mn91zJLuIsBQJcJdbhoDXafdQIeME/ZZMlfykwNOUmJCX2zaPkmQYijDJJYLiinnYjhfhVCvJCNYOlmtvjERtqIF4fJVjWRkgWnr5aODP1g+dAMKANy4s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KUZcTORKpMoMBwCkROvFZ9wAqGJIScegAawks7fRCH0W3Civ2fg4GB1jRqwuSOP2WHS5gVUCkLcOmqgVanc+wR8EV8YFt4YXC73HhVuh4p0D2LUWNtH2Q0zPWiLkWdLpEoCbClZcrFqT3YyefzE0Z6PRYGOnn0DUyu1733NLsP4= Message-ID: <9ff9c5d10709011810r2b5cd650gc910d095d4a26d06@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 18:10:34 -0700 From: "Nic Roozeboom" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <20070902010423.4B1A83BF89@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3569_26703343.1188695434538" References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <20070902010423.4B1A83BF89@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:10:36 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3569_26703343.1188695434538 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2) It's fine , we can leave things the way they are. See, I even trimmed this message! :-) (waves to Rick) -- Nic Roozeboom http://www.fractal-continuum.com http://www.cdbaby.com/all/fractal http://www.myspace.com/fractalcontinuum http://www.myspace.com/nicroozeboom http://fractal.bebo.com/ ------=_Part_3569_26703343.1188695434538 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2)   It's fine , we can leave things the way they are.


See, I even trimmed this message! :-) (waves to Rick)

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Nic Roozeboom

http://www.fractal-continuum.com
http://www.cdbaby.com/all/fractal
http://www.myspace.com/fractalcontinuum
http://www.myspace.com/nicroozeboom
http://fractal.bebo.com/ ------=_Part_3569_26703343.1188695434538-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 01:21:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93B3C3BFAB; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:21:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at X-Spam-Score: -1.44 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.44 tagged_above=-10 required=6 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.44] Message-ID: <002501c7ecff$89ddd260$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 21:20:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:21:07 +0000 (UTC) 2 ----- Original Message ----- From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 7:27 PM Subject: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight > To make this quick, just leave a 1) or a 2) in your message body. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 01:21:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4B743BFBC; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:21:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=qZAeASvSwbYL0fkQFFyQyTRRnQNK4s+FWtxI9fAyhoswLGdmKjN5Z9htBjfzoqK9B8u6V2K6IFkmGrHbbcvKVsDK95fldYjn5vmS/ckMC7/Y3DePl8VuxH44VjZ2OkLmi6T6yYHfOCLKPcXJaYNjACWNN+I6hFKkBULVRUcaoGY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=tKaNV1N+cHp/qipN/swXp5nJVQxD8v4gUxVWmfl7tjkHjShF819VA8F7/Acluo6Newg/RHIII46p95ODLt7BdxWVo6tT9U04nMlbJHQ6H5y1m1mQnPvv3NNuqDfLHm3NXhbWGqG1cgW20Pznw59MiStr013feyn++CFyg6ZZMPI= Message-ID: <9ff9c5d10709011821h58fdf2deid89f66ff76abafc1@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 18:21:48 -0700 From: "Nic Roozeboom" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Keeping the off-topic off the digest MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3585_25991359.1188696108645" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:21:51 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3585_25991359.1188696108645 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Posts marked OT: automatically get precluded from the digest... And posts "about" the list (including off/on-topic debate) get marked META: and also don't make it to the digest... Digesters happier, auto-sorters happier. One can dream, can't one? Nic gmailer not a digest subscriber;-) On 9/1/07, Warren Sirota wrote: > > Yeah, I can see why many things would be problematic in a digest version. > What I don't quite get is why anyone would prefer the digest version, when, > with the modern auto-sorting capabilities of email clients, it's so much > easier to scan and manage everything quickly in non-digest format. > > > ------------------------------ > -- Nic Roozeboom http://www.fractal-continuum.com http://www.cdbaby.com/all/fractal http://www.myspace.com/fractalcontinuum http://www.myspace.com/nicroozeboom http://fractal.bebo.com/ ------=_Part_3585_25991359.1188696108645 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Posts marked OT: automatically get precluded from the digest... And posts "about" the list (including off/on-topic debate) get marked META: and also don't make it to the digest... Digesters happier, auto-sorters happier. One can dream, can't one?

Nic
gmailer not a digest subscriber;-)


On 9/1/07, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:

Yeah, I can see why many things would be problematic in a digest version. What I don't quite get is why anyone would prefer the digest version, when, with the modern auto-sorting capabilities of email clients, it's so much easier to scan and manage everything quickly in non-digest format.

 


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Nic Roozeboom

http://www.fractal-continuum.com
http://www.cdbaby.com/all/fractal
http://www.myspace.com/fractalcontinuum
http://www.myspace.com/nicroozeboom
http://fractal.bebo.com/ ------=_Part_3585_25991359.1188696108645-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 01:26:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37B933BF3F; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:26:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> In-Reply-To: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Subject: RE: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 18:26:16 -0700 Message-ID: <000c01c7ed00$43ce1270$cb6a3750$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acfs8LZp4+i8vcOyRZ2+/zamn48+uAAD4Rtw Content-Language: en-us X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: D131a020000001c88.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:26:17 +0000 (UTC) 2 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 01:28:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A08163BFAF; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:28:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at X-Spam-Score: -1.439 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.439 tagged_above=-10 required=6 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.44, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Message-ID: <005601c7ed00$9f537c20$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <20070902010423.4B1A83BF89@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 21:28:52 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0053_01C7ECDF.17C83F50" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:28:52 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C7ECDF.17C83F50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable tu? http://www.myspace.com/tuband ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Doug Cox=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 9:10 PM Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight tu. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20 Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release Date: = 8/31/2007 5:21 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C7ECDF.17C83F50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release = Date:=20 8/31/2007 5:21 PM
------=_NextPart_000_0053_01C7ECDF.17C83F50-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 01:46:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CE1E3BFA0; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:46:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <46DA15FE.7000309@biink.com> Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 21:46:38 -0400 From: David Beardsley Reply-To: db@biink.com Organization: Biink & SSI User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <20070902010423.4B1A83BF89@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20070902010423.4B1A83BF89@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0s-i8D.A.0zG.rXh2GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:46:19 +0000 (UTC) two and also seven. -- * David Beardsley * microtonal guitar * http://biink.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 02:02:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3ABF3BF98; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 02:02:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <46DA19A7.4030204@servingpeace.com> Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:02:15 -0700 From: Sam Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Macintosh/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> In-Reply-To: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 02:02:18 +0000 (UTC) 2) It's fine , we can leave things the way they are. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 02:05:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B6043BFB9; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 02:05:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <6615C8AB-DBB2-4624-B8BB-BF55F2C68899@zonemobius.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeffrey Larson Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 21:04:59 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - esc25.midphase.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - zonemobius.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 02:05:14 +0000 (UTC) 3 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 02:17:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 613FC3BFBD; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 02:17:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: CkakjcsVM1lPFFLUHmaSl6EMrsi.XSeEPyrRDNh_IPX0teJOwlJbU4wohNnSo.u8NxClw..eYw-- Message-ID: <46DA1D2B.9020603@minds-eye.org> Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 19:17:15 -0700 From: Kevin Cheli-Colando User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.8.1.5) Gecko/20070716 SeaMonkey/1.1.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> In-Reply-To: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 02:17:18 +0000 (UTC) 2 Kevin (another one) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 02:24:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 724443BFB7; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 02:24:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <200709020223.l822Ntda015855@ms-smtp-02.nyroc.rr.com> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 22:23:52 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: p koniuto Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 02:24:00 +0000 (UTC) >1) There should be an offtopic list that resides off of this site > >2) It's fine , we can leave things the way they are. 2. I've learned a great deal from diverse yet like-minded (loopers) people on this list in off-topic posts over the last 11 years. NOT a fan of the OT stuff being omitted from digests. I AM a big fan of people trimming down the quoted texts, as to avoid driving the digest-readers mad. (If we're printing them and reading them on the go, we get 30 pages of the same message.) Peter ______________________________ Peter Koniuto Creative Recordist - Composer Red Sun Soundroom Niskayuna, NY U.S.A. AVAILAIBLE NOW: Pseudophone's "Reach" A free EP from Negative Sound Institute http://www.negativesoundinstitute.com/ http://www.RedSunSoundroom.com peter AT RedSunSoundroom.com ______________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 02:24:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0BB453BFCC; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 02:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "Woz Mail" To: Subject: RE: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:24:17 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <6615C8AB-DBB2-4624-B8BB-BF55F2C68899@zonemobius.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 02:24:22 +0000 (UTC) 2 -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Larson [mailto:jeff@zonemobius.com] Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 12:05 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight 3 -- No virus found in this incoming message. 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Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.2/983 - Release Date: 9/1/2007 4:20 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 02:30:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6184C3BFC5; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 02:30:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=h1/M8rhENAACIciLz35ZZpcXiJAp6bO96d7Jfy9UNAcG/WPFni7ZZioMGWLMJYiiDdJxcfxfNzHHkAykY74ZKcRLdhAls21HM1/ANmdHZJIP/lryr+slwkrIf+Ai9CPRbZqe1y8+Q93M7qlzd35TzsvQ6mBaWLCHekU7m3KkBfw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=k9KXkzUVcgs4B0pikLrrP1C2w4EWKGzKe439nf02slf7Gf4zYd6i/35N5kH2PUqzyELePke4R+ljwI4hD9pCCqqDUMrWGXSx5P1RwLIiu5CLqYsKCk2iiVPh2GlNHNn/fEoyiTW6syxk0Ec03swD8ykQKajw8QOUx5M+XTolwig= Message-ID: <588ce11d0709011930l6e4713ecq518596b5229138d4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 19:30:31 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 02:30:33 +0000 (UTC) 2 -- Art Simon simart@null.net http://art.simon.tripod.com http://www.myspace.com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 02:33:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 277443BF08; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 02:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 22:33:14 EDT Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bd4.164c572e.340b7aea_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 02:33:22 +0000 (UTC) --part1_bd4.164c572e.340b7aea_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i find this poll a bit late.....there is an LDOT group already set up and i find it somewhat freeing to write about whatever, books, movies, the weather, my garden, guitars and strings.....so far most folk want to leave things as they are till someone mentions poor little ol mr. potter then people leave the list like rats off of a sinking ship.....i wish you could see me chompin on some bubble gum when i say "WHATEVER!".....:).....michael www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour --part1_bd4.164c572e.340b7aea_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i find this poll a bit late.....there i= s an LDOT group already set up and i find it somewhat freeing to write about= whatever, books, movies, the weather, my garden, guitars and strings.....so= far most folk want to leave things as they are till someone mentions poor l= ittle ol mr. potter then people leave the list like rats off of a sinking sh= ip.....i wish you could see me chompin on some bubble gum when i say "WHATEV= ER!".....:).....michael



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Get a sneak= peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour --part1_bd4.164c572e.340b7aea_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 03:25:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0ED1A3BFA8; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 03:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <46DA2D27.70402@mhorse.com> Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 22:25:27 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: AW: OT: mastering References: <20070901182420.9FFD03BF6E@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20070901182420.9FFD03BF6E@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 03:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Ah, I gotcha, Rainer. You're absolutely right, creating a CD master can literally be a hands-off process. Thanks for explaining that. more OT: I was lucky enough to be at the mastering session for the vinyl single my band put out (analog from tracking all the way to the end...). Amazing thing, to watch the groove getting laid down on that huge master disk, the engineer watching with a microscope to be sure the bass didn't swing the cutting head too wide. It was a total indulgence - I think we sold 30 out of 500 pressed - but I'm so happy I did it. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> Er...no. It's neither automated nor non-creative, unless >> you're referring to the process of simply running it through >> software which can be done with some basic results. Mastering >> > > Here, we're using different terminology. I was referring to the process of > taking a red-book-compliant digital source and using that to make a glass > master (hence the name "mastering"). This process > a) will always work if the source is red-book compliant > b) has no parameters to adjust > > Both a) and b) were/are not true in the world of vinyl. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 03:34:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 458F13BFBB; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 03:34:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <46DA2F45.9030409@mhorse.com> Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 22:34:29 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.13 (Windows/20070809) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight References: <20070902010412.086A13BFA7@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20070902010412.086A13BFA7@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 03:34:38 +0000 (UTC) Well...I'll also vote 2, things can stay as they are...but leaving things "as they are" means keeping the already-fun OT list, as well as this list. Ha. I guess my vote of #2 means that I think OT discussion shouldn't require topic police on this list. Rather, just as it is now, we keep things GENERALLY within the viewable horizon of looping. And people can join the other one, or not. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 03:47:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 76E7A3BFB1; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 03:47:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=prfBPjIoCd3q+GjPu44pCeFwK6CJMO9HuHwL46mMsqxYlMHaZTNVhAhfef7vxOfT5w6mDnquv78xIcFzgRCiPQKc4YdMRM2QmpSurx3BQxzS3Cnkan6WRVm/Dtr6bK2EcufABdSyhofozB7BQ+gSxJTqvP0gAuyDxrQ733A3BW0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=kzCBwQ+veik8j1eCZrj3/a0t5UUGTky5Xaw6lQMVc4x7CuF9s8j6IcZoXmuIanzFZ2qF3cGz4AZramC66xWT3jfTvcAobqCJvK9rfbh2P8qizz3ffYB78Lx1iyRcEj3SKgHw/AHuWaEUnfWi8FGHots8azFgElIBzyQ7b3MH+O0= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 05:47:31 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <46DA2F45.9030409@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3137_22539131.1188704851671" References: <20070902010412.086A13BFA7@arsenic.violacea.com> <46DA2F45.9030409@mhorse.com> Resent-Message-ID: <7SzcIC.A.osE.VJj2GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 03:47:34 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3137_22539131.1188704851671 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 1) or 2) ... but also vote for jeff's 3 ... i'm totally agree with him! well done & said (er.. written... leave it as typed...) !!! wow, i never noticed that i like voting as much as listening to noise raul. 2007/9/2, Daryl Shawn : > > Well...I'll also vote 2, things can stay as they are...but leaving > things "as they are" means keeping the already-fun OT list, as well as > this list. Ha. > > I guess my vote of #2 means that I think OT discussion shouldn't require > topic police on this list. Rather, just as it is now, we keep things > GENERALLY within the viewable horizon of looping. And people can join > the other one, or not. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_3137_22539131.1188704851671 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 1) or 2)  ...  but also vote for jeff's 3 ...
i'm totally agree with him! well done & said
(er.. written... leave it as typed...) !!!

wow, i never noticed that i like voting as much
as listening to noise

raul.

2007/9/2, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com>:
Well...I'll also vote 2, things can stay as they are...but leaving
things "as they are" means keeping the already-fun OT list, as well as
this list. Ha.

I guess my vote of #2 means that I think OT discussion shouldn't require
topic police on this list. Rather, just as it is now, we keep things
GENERALLY within the viewable horizon of looping. And people can join
the other one, or not.

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com




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The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_3137_22539131.1188704851671-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 03:55:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EB9683BFB4; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 03:55:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-16--55284802 Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 20:55:12 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 03:55:13 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-16--55284802 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Sep 1, 2007, at 4:27 PM, RICK WALKER wrote: > 1) There should be an offtopic list that resides off of this site > no > 2) It's fine , we can leave things the way they are. YES. i like as is! --Apple-Mail-16--55284802 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Sep 1, 2007, at = 4:27 PM, RICK WALKER wrote:

1)=A0 There should be an offtopic = list that resides off of this site



no

2) =A0 It's fine = , we can leave things the way they are.

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YES. i like as is!


= --Apple-Mail-16--55284802-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 04:20:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 941F83BFA6; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 04:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 00:20:37 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20070902042030.0173024797@ns3.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 04:20:32 +0000 (UTC) >2. It's fine , we can leave things the way they are. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 04:25:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3EF73BFBF; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 04:25:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 12:25:08 +0800 From: Randolf Arriola Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <04b901c7ed19$3ec39980$6601a8c0@embryo> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <20070902042030.0173024797@ns3.tnt21.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 04:25:20 +0000 (UTC) Fine by me too. :) Randolf Arriola (aka the embryo) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/theembryo.htm http://www.myspace.com/the_embryo ----- Original Message ----- From: "paul" To: Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 12:20 PM Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight > >>2. It's fine , we can leave things the way they are. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 05:49:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3632F3BFB6; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 05:49:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: Teddy Kumpel To: "looper's delight list" In-Reply-To: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (1C28) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 1C28) Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 01:49:10 -0400 References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 05:49:17 +0000 (UTC) 2 Teddy Kumpel Http://myspace.com/mistershifty http://myspace.com On Sep 1, 2007, at 7:27 PM, RICK WALKER wrote: > Since we are devoting so much energy to discussing this > possibilitiy of an offtopic list > > Honestly, I think there are far fewer people who object to off > topic posts here > than we are surmising but I realize I don't know for sure. > > Why don't we find out. > > > Please tell us what you think. > > > 1) There should be an offtopic list that resides off of this site > > 2) It's fine , we can leave things the way they are. > > To make this quick, just leave a 1) or a 2) in your message > body. > > As a matter of fact, let's not inundate the list with more > discussion on this particular thread. > Just quickly log in with your preference....................explain > away in the previous OT: posts. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 06:10:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A708B3BFA2; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 06:10:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ARXXk/HOodDnnJhj1p29CCNpMRgQ1/WGv9nIcfXqD65mdatJlcfwCy8ESpPqRh8363A++OFtqE1qeOzo95en44bTjd3YGHWbpNyJvVHz6p1Vpq1SIAZFJkKA0uJ1eJTHidhQD/AEkX+hCM6dWyqzkRoLw8y05QhxhBxkSRxZzHI=; X-YMail-OSG: OIeG2zoVM1m2KJJDxIKKJsovCEkvx4Q2CmaqUajAkm2P299vr2ZdWvK_WdhPvzCilbL5ofmTjnGd8XJAJzFzymHbzSUeBdsWwTv2a8S7lbf.0Enrvix6nm.HTv_uTg-- Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 23:10:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <565849.12960.qm@web38611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <8zj3R.A.scB.cPl2GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 06:10:36 +0000 (UTC) fine with me,learning is power! Luis --- Zoe Keating wrote: > > On Sep 1, 2007, at 4:27 PM, RICK WALKER wrote: > > > 1) There should be an offtopic list that resides > off of this site > > > > no > > > 2) It's fine , we can leave things the way they > are. > > YES. i like as is! > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 06:50:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9FD173BFB3; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 06:50:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <689rhp$233pbe@OutRelay-b08.libero.it> X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAH/52UaXLB55/2dsb2JhbAA From: "Luigi Meloni" To: Subject: RE: re;OT favorite mastering chain Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 08:50:45 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <000601c7ecec$0f4e86b0$1001a8c0@succubus> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Thread-index: AcfsI04A3etRipO3QtSh3cxd4Ue3GAAyKR5gAA/Ii3A= Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 06:50:46 +0000 (UTC) As far as mastering goes: Has anyone tried to use the DSD as a format for mastering? I explain: I am currently looking around for a stereo master recorder, and I am currently reading the manuals and searching info on two machines: the Korg mr1000 (which is a portable dsd hard disk recorder with a couple of mic pres and phantom power integrated - the fact that it can be also as a field recorder at the dsd quality or at up to 24bit 192khz powered from AA batteries is a plus for me, since lately I am working with classical music players and am recording all the rehearsals in the various auditoriums and theatres we play) and the Tascam DVRA1000HD which is a similar machine, minus the mic pres, the phantom and the portability (only powers with mains). Has anyone tried those? I have tried the Tascam DVRA1000 (which is the same machine as the dvra1000hd minus the hard disk) and I find a great quality, but problems with the dvd-r support compatibility, the hdd one should have no such problems but costs almost twice the Korg Mr1000... As far as mastering goes, it depends on the kind of sound I want to obtain... Usually I work with software, and in the end I too use: a parametric EQ then the signal goes in a multiband compressor Then a limiter (just to tame some peaks... I like my mixes to sound dynamical, since I am working with classical material (violins, quartets, grand pianos, lutes etc...) When I work on my looping pieces I usually put last in chain an old behringer magician that I have modified (This is the one with 8 ins and 8 outs and 8 valves in it and that basically filter the channels through valves, to warm up the tone a bit, then if I have a free reel I record everything through my old akai reel to reel recorder. Next I resample everything on my pc to cut the cd... Peace Luigi -----Original Message----- From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill [mailto:rs@moinlabs.de] Sent: domenica 2 settembre 2007 1.02 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: AW: re;OT favorite mastering chain Are you using analogue source tape, or only analogue mastering gear? Why? Rainer > I go from mixed tape to EQ, to Valley 440 dynamics > processors, to BBE Maximizer, to recording device. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 06:56:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BFF03BFA7; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 06:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.78.235] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070902065047.377D73BFC0@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: POLL Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2007 23:56:04 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Sep 2007 06:56:05.0888 (UTC) FILETIME=[554F3000:01C7ED2E] Resent-Message-ID: <839jNB.A.-LD.I6l2GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 06:56:09 +0000 (UTC) 2 _________________________________________________________________ Get the device you want, with the Hotmail® you love. http://www.windowsmobile.com/hotmailmobile?ocid=MobileHMTagline_1 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 07:11:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 630833BFC8; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 07:11:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=wa60r+a880iHukpXuJcSeNfGYgy6ympFBUofvnPWXe/KZ/MPEcNUKXx1tZn6jeGlMk1P1tc0L6bhOKh4qP+vZeldTHQi5KaByiTB/yNqhrc8aLSaH06xEGBcW7mqhhugN+2MybrcdenRnRmPaQqCgaqpeTCaWP+GqtbJDp4Iu8k=; X-YMail-OSG: VE4QdXgVM1nI2r1KQFZo5kf.yjydIKwzT1_.QFBru.YOPrXxznpRklwSu4hXao_bXxQWQ_HfKuA_sWTmWVspdC2bx0HaxHTVXgGdc7jfulA9u2tBVccH.VD1GhYzsQ-- Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:11:31 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Subject: RE: re;OT favorite mastering chain To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <689rhp$233pbe@OutRelay-b08.libero.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <91120.80229.qm@web32703.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 07:11:32 +0000 (UTC) Howdy. I think the Korgs are the way to go. 1 bit high sample speed recording, I think, is going to get more popular. in.re. the 1 bit CD playback machines from the 80s. They sounded good. I'm sure it won't be long for interfaces to turn up, but transfering audio to audio should sound pretty danged good. Rig --- Luigi Meloni wrote: > As far as mastering goes. Has anyone tried to use > the DSD as a format for > mastering? I explain: I am currently looking around > for a stereo master > recorder, and I am currently reading the manuals and > searching info on two > machines: the Korg mr1000 (which is a portable dsd > hard disk recorder with a > couple of mic pres and phantom power integrated - > the fact that it can be > also as a field recorder at the dsd quality or at up > to 24bit 192khz powered > from AA batteries is a plus for me, since lately I > am working with classical > music players and am recording all the rehearsals in > the various auditoriums > and theatres we play) and the Tascam DVRA1000HD > which is a similar machine, > minus the mic pres, the phantom and the portability > (only powers with > mains). > Has anyone tried those? I have tried the Tascam > DVRA1000 (which is the same > machine as the dvra1000hd minus the hard disk) and I > find a great quality, > but problems with the dvd-r support compatibility, > the hdd one should have > no such problems but costs almost twice the Korg > Mr1000... > > As far as mastering goes, it depends on the kind of > sound I want to > obtain... > Usually I work with software, and in the end I too > use: > a parametric EQ > then the signal goes in a multiband compressor > Then a limiter (just to tame some peaks... I like my > mixes to sound > dynamical, since I am working with classical > material (violins, quartets, > grand pianos, lutes etc...) > When I work on my looping pieces I usually put last > in chain an old > behringer magician that I have modified (This is the > one with 8 ins and 8 > outs and 8 valves in it and that basically filter > the channels through > valves, to warm up the tone a bit, then if I have a > free reel I record > everything through my old akai reel to reel > recorder. Next I resample > everything on my pc to cut the cd... > > > Peace > Luigi > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill > [mailto:rs@moinlabs.de] > Sent: domenica 2 settembre 2007 1.02 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: AW: re;OT favorite mastering chain > > Are you using analogue source tape, or only analogue > mastering gear? > > Why? > > Rainer > > > I go from mixed tape to EQ, to Valley 440 > dynamics > > processors, to BBE Maximizer, to recording device. > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 07:15:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84DFF3BF85; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 07:15:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] Message-ID: <008e01c7ed31$16341180$4001a8c0@mini> From: "Claude Voit" To: References: <565849.12960.qm@web38611.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 09:15:47 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <52cb6D.A.yvD.rMm2GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 07:15:56 +0000 (UTC) unsubscribe Nah joking 2 Claude Voit ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.A. Angulo" To: Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 8:10 AM Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight fine with me,learning is power! Luis --- Zoe Keating wrote: > > On Sep 1, 2007, at 4:27 PM, RICK WALKER wrote: > > > 1) There should be an offtopic list that resides > off of this site > > > > no > > > 2) It's fine , we can leave things the way they > are. > > YES. i like as is! > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 07:17:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2869A3BFC7; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 07:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=tlPj16roZkk0B30DPio9kEVNAXZ1iOC69ynqHiwu9ymwKS5/Nsz3phKrb/3+6uZum+2Yk/zD5jIExRrFdm0qhmOH2cq5lPbJdowWYbOjg5y7I+ILyQIgtmZdx/dd8DPS8yHuKzba2+NSSyd+BrJxdYgUTQtr6qLdlLYlehTNoP0=; X-YMail-OSG: 6Llae2IVM1nCi1HqX2BYZr_biboCs7TiDubwuoad7gNosikS9zXTnryiY22k.pMgN8MVECYbYsM8AOoJieFFGjHNA0DtKUN1X3.Tp.NWQh_jHY5imT4- Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 00:17:41 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <46DA2F45.9030409@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <523534.84404.qm@web32708.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <9PlSIC.A.S4D.WOm2GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 07:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, I think the present set-up reqires the 3 lever (leever) analogy. Lever A? Nope. Lever C? Nope. Best to pull on "lever B". Rig --- Daryl Shawn wrote: > Well...I'll also vote 2, things can stay as they > are...but leaving > things "as they are" means keeping the already-fun > OT list, as well as > this list. Ha. > > I guess my vote of #2 means that I think OT > discussion shouldn't require > topic police on this list. Rather, just as it is > now, we keep things > GENERALLY within the viewable horizon of looping. > And people can join > the other one, or not. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Yahoo! Search http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=graduation+gifts&cs=bz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 07:19:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B1AE3BFD4; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 07:19:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=pQsEPIrMcYxZdKbums3JEJA4UNuKMw4wYpIjazsJ/iKAzhJKPqUtmxYt3u1xfa9rtSED2h7SqNM86mgbD0T7tj5T4/amX8KYVek1nfQaNA/Aa36qQoHPp2Xzxk+WfhwhPkWzzUMioanZP/oQIlsUYqI84F07sZGx6lQDTg7SX8I=; X-YMail-OSG: s2H1ICIVM1l__aJoeg1o4xb836OVgkYl.y7Kv5yOvdSbJmBjXOqfP1WXMvFYR5Malw-- Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 09:19:39 +0200 (CEST) From: rune fagereng Subject: re. Re: Hassel on topic at Punkt Festival To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <2E6CE399-D660-4CBB-B553-2BF89FC107F1@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <626538.68292.qm@web26204.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 07:19:40 +0000 (UTC) nice - thanks RF --- Per Boysen skrev: > On 2 sep 2007, at 00.54, Warren Sirota wrote: > > > I'm trying to look at the streaming video, but it > doesn't seem to > > be working > > (you're talking about the "Tonights Live Concert" > link, right?) > > Yep. I copied the live stream URL into the Quicktime > player and > snagged it with Audio HiJack Pro (Mac rocks!). If > you want to listen > I posted the mp3 at > http://www.looproom.com/audio/Jon_Hassell_Live_Remix_Punkt_Festival.mp3 > > CC'ing this to the On Topic list as well, since I > heard Hassel do > some looping at the end of the piece, although it > was only one repeat > (zero feedback) and a very long loop. > > Going to bed now. > > Good night from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > > _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 08:00:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FAD43BFCB; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 08:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <0E4421D4-7A1B-48AE-BB39-A0CB6A5C2951@jamesrichmond.com> Subject: RE: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:00:32 +0200 Message-ID: <006101c7ed37$56910fc0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0062_01C7ED48.1A19DFC0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcftMldu70wvlKbvSvq1W5wM4dWxIQABNyoA In-Reply-To: <0E4421D4-7A1B-48AE-BB39-A0CB6A5C2951@jamesrichmond.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 08:00:37 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C7ED48.1A19DFC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 2 ------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C7ED48.1A19DFC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0062_01C7ED48.1A19DFC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 08:05:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AA993BFC6; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 08:05:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <2E6CE399-D660-4CBB-B553-2BF89FC107F1@gmail.com> Subject: RE: Hassel on topic at Punkt Festival Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:05:01 +0200 Message-ID: <006601c7ed37$f679a560$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0067_01C7ED48.BA027560" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcftMk/eKBMjpjVPR72FspGNKr/8bgABUK1Q In-Reply-To: <2E6CE399-D660-4CBB-B553-2BF89FC107F1@gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 08:05:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C7ED48.BA027560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I copied the live stream URL into the Quicktime player and > snagged it with Audio HiJack Pro (Mac rocks!). > If you want to listen I posted the mp3 at > http://www.looproom.com/audio/Jon_Hassell_Live_Remix_Punkt_Festival.mp3 oh Per, I'm such a happy boy! Of course I missed it again but can now listen. Wonderful !!! this makes my day. did JH really just play for 15:28 ? -Michael www.michaelpeters.de ------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C7ED48.BA027560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> I copied the live stream URL = into the=20 Quicktime player and 
> snagged it with Audio HiJack Pro (Mac = rocks!).
> If you want to listen I posted the mp3 at
> = http://www.looproom.com/audio/Jon_Hassell_Live_Remix_Punkt_F= estival.mp3


oh Per, I'm such a happy boy!  Of course I missed it = again but=20 can now listen. Wonderful !!! this makes my day.

did JH really just play for 15:28 = ?


-Michael www.michaelpeters.de

 

------=_NextPart_000_0067_01C7ED48.BA027560-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 08:28:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC4EF3BFCF; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 08:28:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ZexuDciLvQLqibEEAappAgLWkRcQApSuBxlW1hAwjAfNfWvCY+OfbesLTOugWjeZp3YME8M8vqXTD8pVUfIRMFlQO1+yfbo8eAHR8s+NS7NJ/ODWHGtDbfzJxhOZWxB4rRcyLz94iVkHH67CJQ6HEBEWgzzcVIixvXa77ON9q7I= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=VOvoddKsYnADWzsKfwpWUmN1wi56W7Y5mJi7gVLuWs7oVSinxn12age3NvWO2zfhdISNcm5XpS01X6sPZFljgBEQqrHFCROBHXH+EX0clGd7lJWBw3jceKQDmLFOGpK0/sbObrw/SFf7zZYTbWPatu4H8wu9oszSzQAg/I8yjN8= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <006601c7ed37$f679a560$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <2E6CE399-D660-4CBB-B553-2BF89FC107F1@gmail.com> <006601c7ed37$f679a560$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Hassel on topic at Punkt Festival Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:28:26 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 08:28:32 +0000 (UTC) On 2 sep 2007, at 10.05, Michael Peters wrote: > did JH really just play for 15:28 ? Don't know. I was watching Bugge's web cam every day and most of the time there was nothing, then there were a lot of setting up the stage, a little sound checking. The only concert I managed to catch was this last Hassel gig and it seemed to be almost an hour late (I think Norway and Sweden are in the same time zone and use the same daylight saving system - Aren't we, Rune?). So, I'm guessing there were at least two stages at the festival and Bugge's web cam covered just one of them. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 09:26:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E84B13BFC4; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 09:26:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=6djyd0SX4Je8O2vMJsdkO84QqQ2gTuYLCEexydSth0gfqP8RWmfdwoh3sLX5YECZa459/qZKTtFL9YDzoCyjK8N74TeszMZ57IJQVhnL//ZXkcI81oXvQ+zNxQf5XLU/reoYev54fP4jz4KX8NQ9xooGw9fYovT/QUtIeFlu2xU=; X-YMail-OSG: SWIJ6HMVM1knqw.XbteE_TyG4phOts4v8jxjj.XeP8IYSMImf77KnNn0Shu1JMHGF5iBG1B_qCg7fPHUKNtBFngEBe7ZM9WopxqWbecVUQmqrN88uS8Uf4j.vCk- Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:26:35 +0200 (CEST) From: rune fagereng Subject: re. Re: Hassel on topic at Punkt Festival To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <427550.62281.qm@web26205.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 09:26:37 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! I think that only the remix-conserts where streamed. Dont know - but I think Hassell played 2 or 3 times all together - but this was all that were sent on web. RF --- Per Boysen skrev: > On 2 sep 2007, at 10.05, Michael Peters wrote: > > > did JH really just play for 15:28 ? > > Don't know. I was watching Bugge's web cam every day > and most of the > time there was nothing, then there were a lot of > setting up the > stage, a little sound checking. The only concert I > managed to catch > was this last Hassel gig and it seemed to be almost > an hour late (I > think Norway and Sweden are in the same time zone > and use the same > daylight saving system - Aren't we, Rune?). So, I'm > guessing there > were at least two stages at the festival and Bugge's > web cam covered > just one of them. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > > _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 09:44:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 150273BFBA; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 09:44:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000c01c7ed45$f6d66300$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> Reply-To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <1188691167.46d9fcdf75b39@webmail.musetrap.com> Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:45:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18e9VTpXCsUXqIRwuQaUdbnlgqYC2dH3KswQ0p TsSSaMfUowQBZrk5MU4q6KUNWYlTTFq4qrgPfVWNKKPUw8YPq+ rGD6XJ+v2QMRKpZnS3tVGdRgiz5G7Xh Resent-Message-ID: <4EuEdB.A.Pc.WYo2GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 09:44:55 +0000 (UTC) 2 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 10:41:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12B213BFC9; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <3389F4F9-1059-42D7-9DDE-8905213EE83A@blueyonder.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: leon Subject: roland sp555 Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:40:52 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:41:00 +0000 (UTC) ..is useless as a live looper it seems from this quick review i found =20= online. Just another backward looking DJ box. http://forums.rolandclan.info/?=20 action=3Dshow_thread&fid=3D3&thread=3D20638&s=3D&e=3D "Okay, i have manage to get my hand on a 555 and i will answer any quiestions posed. However there where a few expectations of the 555 which i have =20 investigated and have found to be a myth. Reviews usual start with the good then the bad and then overal im sure once i get use to it it will have is pros, but my immediate =20 expectatioins where a dissapointment and here they are.. Does the 555 keep the music going NO Can you sample when using Loop capture NO How good is loop capture Ok Long version Loop capture does what it says and works the way you expect it. over dub works just as well So what happens once you have your loop what can you do with it. There is a SAVE TO PAD button which you would expect to do what it says. IT DOES NOT It should have been named RECORD TO PAD Because what it does is play the loop capture sample and the pad =20 chosen records what is being played. Maybe you can live with that, but what makes this really bad is that =20 while you have LOOP CAPTURE playing and press SAVE TO PAD it STOPS =20 loop capture from playing. If you time it right you can do as follows SAVE TO PAD(loop capture stops playing) PLAY(loop capture) now it starts playing again Press a pad and your now recording to the pad However at the end of the loop your pad has captured the loop, but the 555 does not continue playing =20= the loop its stops it and you have no music The first time you use LOOP CAPTUIRE you must press line in to allow =20 your external source to be captured. Press Rec to start the capture, press play to replay the loop. press Rec to goto over dub (or use a pedal) Problem.... you external source is not being recorded??? why? because when you recorded your first pass and pressed play the 555 disabled LINE IN This means once you have captured a loop, before pressing REC(over =20 dub) You must once more press LINE IN Now there is absolutely no reason why SAVE TO PAD has to stop the =20 loop capture from playing, it should simply retrigger it or once you press the pad to capture to, IT will retrigger it. Roland don=92t seem to understand the idea that the music is not =20 suppose to stop unless we tell it to do so. Roland seems to impose its own will on others rather than allow =20 others to make decisions for themselves. So that=92s all the myths gone about the 555 and 15 seconds loop capture time?? why is it only 15 seconds? This is =20= an artificial restriction imposed for no technical reason other than =20 to force you to buy more gear. only 12 pads mono can playback at any time, what about the other 4 =20 and why not stereo (32 voice) Maybe you will still like the 555 after al that Overall the SP555 is Not as useful as it should be and is NOT to be =20 seen as a LIVE performance tool because of the fact that is does not =20 allow to music to flow but instead if you try to do more than one =20 task the music STOPS! If you have the sp404 and upgrading it maybe worth the extra few =20 dollars if you get a good price for the 404, I got 320 and paid 449 =20 for the upgrade so its a good deal. Just be aware of what your =20 getting. THIS IS NOT A LIVE PERFORMACE TOOL i will play with it for another 28 days before i decide to return it =20 (who knows)" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 12:59:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F203F3BFD5; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:59:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01c201c7ed61$273c1c90$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: 24 HOUR POLL RESULTS: 1 = 32 2= 0 3=1 and 2 uncommitted Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 05:59:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:59:36 +0000 (UTC) In the last 24 hours since I took this poll we have 32 people who voted for leaving things as they are (no new list for off topic votes) No one voted for option 1 which was to have a separate list (although the person who wanted the offtopic posts moderated, Mark Sottilaro hasn't voted yet and I imagine but am not sure, that our fearless leader, Kim Flint probably would vote 1 as well). one person voted 3 one person said either 1 or 2 but liked the new option 3 as well. and then there was Michael Klobuchar's post which I haven't figure out yet. (help me out Scootster------ a 1 or a 2?) In just the last 35 posts of people who voted in the poll, this is a virtual landslide. Everyone seems to want to just keep LoopersDelight the unmoderated forum that it has been since it's inception. I vote for that as well (I didn't vote at first because I wanted the results to be impartial and I was taking the poll). Let's start posting about looping! What a great idea. Yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 14:42:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 38D963BFD1; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 14:42:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 10:42:22 -0400 From: Warren Sirota Subject: RE: 24 HOUR POLL RESULTS: 1 = 32 2= 0 3=1 and 2 uncommitted In-reply-to: <01c201c7ed61$273c1c90$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <013501c7ed6f$7a370f50$3702a8c0@macbookxp> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thread-index: AcftYRv0kvSojLw8R4ae/sfMD68S+wADjytg References: <01c201c7ed61$273c1c90$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 14:42:26 +0000 (UTC) I vote 2 as well, and want to thank you, Rick, for taking the initiative to call the question. 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Sun, 2 Sep 2007 15:57:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=G3qo+w0a0JekbP6pIORCuxHgc06EjatDCbFjERgeTfTDkK31ObVVQ35jc7CTCVTjUIZwbUtHWOivb79lAnN2hThhRGCkob8AT8x8obO4yVYuYDfdGivqQBI4lpSDyU4oe7y/Tmbbjx+Ifa6Ujg99mxGFA3YYlu2zHuOzsmLGm8g=; X-YMail-OSG: _wfAFQQVM1kao9J2KYnqfqUJXATHfMKCr6h3Ed9opUKZzvn4K_tYnp5Yek964_Mfn.hIgCY4UKXbDltpLtiLq9EaNWUV_1qkSqp92NnJtCUh_VN2uP5hBGFMc5MZs9c- Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 08:57:12 -0700 (PDT) From: rabbirabbifive Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <232250.18795.qm@web60325.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 15:57:13 +0000 (UTC) 2 It's fine as is “I saw too many people die, and a lot of people didn’t see any of that. 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Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 16:02:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7AF1B3BFDE; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 16:02:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-UNTD-OriginStamp: wE15mMxaCGdImpQmRPxb5Jm4wlB7kY+TKygQQd97lmRc6En0/BI7yQ== X-Originating-IP: [206.193.127.2] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Weg" Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 16:00:08 GMT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Message-Id: <20070902.120008.23754.0@webmail19.dca.untd.com> X-UOL-TAGLINE: true Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="--__JWM__J324e.23daS.5941M" X-ContentStamp: 3:4:1110915117 X-MAIL-INFO:1b7059e1c0f049c0f175f049c9507975a5b9a5809590e0954d818120e0a4ad29c049cd59a06dc0adf9dda900b07d5d5d195db070 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.171.12.159|webmail19.dca.untd.com|webmail19.dca.untd.com|theweg@netzero.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 16:02:05 +0000 (UTC) ----__JWM__J324e.23daS.5941M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Sep 1, 2007, at 4:27 PM, RICK WALKER wrote:1) There should be an off= topic list that resides off of this site no 2) It's fine , we can leave things the way they are. I'll take the number two with a large juice! Thanks,Oh no juice, how ab= out a decafe tea??? weg _____________________________________________________________ Click here to increase your salary by earning an online degree. http://3rdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2211/fc/Ioyw6ijmibmkovP7IHJEcFVhcbP= RPy4B61EdZbiB4s0q8DvVeoYDHc/ ----__JWM__J324e.23daS.5941M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
On Sep 1, 2007, at 4:27 PM, RICK WALKER wrote:

1)  Ther= e should be an offtopic list that resides off of this site



no

2)   It'= s fine , we can leave things the way they are.

I'll take the number two with a large juice!
 
 
Thanks,
Oh no juice, how about a decafe tea???
 
 
weg


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 ----__JWM__J324e.23daS.5941M-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 16:16:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93FB13BFDA; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 16:16:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=mEpRHtrzIsZ5nVU+JWzYrzHFECpCqat5g76hKTEkPRbBthg6AtHS8P6zlRBFwUIK/A/4lMC+MkVcLvdgY34VNkHfO02KPv6n6s5ZPMxtfTSY4fFfl8yJs7zbL5qWd7bmiBibl1um+8b5ZTo83imR8z2LaYafXtF0dcUHYIZQZd8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pXg69OWOkxzn7e7kki9ZcDJFuGRTd0jue3KXwVegX3rzRbDQfMni0t7TxdY6rieuue0chLzTVUWIfBFd1qUZB1QjPc7XKAUUylVYWcxeWqdlCdL3GDFi9W5bSWMv3PJLUlY4V4GxoBYxpxpWtP2yMRBkvlwc89aPpZ5LGPJ+zhk= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:16:39 -0500 From: "Doug Cox" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 24 HOUR POLL RESULTS: 1 = 32 2= 0 3=1 and 2 uncommitted In-Reply-To: <01c201c7ed61$273c1c90$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7726_21161556.1188749799367" References: <01c201c7ed61$273c1c90$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Resent-Message-ID: <_h8Z8.A.ROH.oHu2GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 16:16:40 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_7726_21161556.1188749799367 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm sorry, but I believe this post is off-topic. Please move it to the off-topic list. Kthxbi. :) ------=_Part_7726_21161556.1188749799367 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm sorry, but I believe this post is off-topic.  Please move it to the off-topic list.  Kthxbi.

:)
------=_Part_7726_21161556.1188749799367-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 16:37:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93F983BF91; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 16:37:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at X-Spam-Score: -1.439 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.439 tagged_above=-10 required=6 tests=[ALL_TRUSTED=-1.44, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] Message-ID: <003601c7ed7c$f2c828c0$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 12:18:49 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01C7ED5B.6B310510" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 16:37:25 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C7ED5B.6B310510 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable your right michael, er, ah, I voted 2 to keep it like it "IS" not what = it was......trick question, I demand a recount!.........Jeff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nemoguitt@aol.com=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 10:33 PM Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight i find this poll a bit late.....there is an LDOT group already set up = .......michael=20 www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at = http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.=20 Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.13.1/982 - Release Date: = 8/31/2007 5:21 PM ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C7ED5B.6B310510 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C7ED5B.6B310510-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 16:37:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF10B3BFEC; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 16:37:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.3.060209 Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 17:37:25 +0100 Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight From: Greg Mills To: RICK WALKER , Message-ID: Thread-Topic: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Thread-Index: Acftf4rhyTbYT1lyEdyZ1QAKlaVu8g== In-Reply-To: <00bd01c7ed5e$b1ff0f20$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5sDJBD.A.pK.Jbu2GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 16:37:29 +0000 (UTC) 2) RICK WALKER wrote: > What's your vote, Greg? Well Rick, I am going with Daryl's definition of 'keeping things as they are'. My preference would be to allow both. I'm happy for others to do use another list as long as it doesn't detract from my LD experience. But, I'm also happy for us to carry on using prefixes to categorise OT posts. As it has been pointed out, once you've set up a few filters it's easy to sort posts based on their relevance to looping. A bit like a mail server which has a dual-threshold spam filter. Those who can't spare the time to read everything would have the ability to sort posts into three categories, on-topic, off-topic for subjects not directly linked to looping, and the alternative list for everything else. Those of us who want the Full Monty can have that too. It seems to me that some very interesting things happen when you allow events, performances or conversations to go off on a tangent, so I wouldn't want us to get too hung up on rules and definitions. The bottom line for me is that I have learnt so much from the incredible amount of knowledge and experience that you all share here that I would not want this stream of consciousness to be reduced in any way. Long live Loopers Delight! PS Sorry about the lengthy post, but I wanted to explain my choice. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 17:02:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB23C3BFC2; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 17:02:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QJ5CvrBaYnxeJAEH3vIZqSroIpW0oYq4/D2mdtT3Ym80VO9w45z98KjB9QaV5dFGe87eNkwPhCPJRCexl2i9GrR+6LccK44FetNQtPUzEQOTne7rg0pKRhW6rDP/d0XD0VYAWQKueiRCHzWb0WsZp2kLtuFTPV5qaFD7xo2s8mE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=H7QsEc/ZWbdiug7bAj+OH4Z4Yk0EVHeI4Kwq1/4OU2YbMrBeAjt4ITV+Twu26PYkNjYl5+F+mWFJjrRib1lgrPIlLQ6/C4c2bOb1nIy2fKcpMT1tXQfG10e+X1xycSBl4Lopu1jDPtFeGiAKGRQ4x6fk3x0jNaUsSxE4Fz67Suc= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:02:44 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <00bd01c7ed5e$b1ff0f20$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 17:02:47 +0000 (UTC) Well, it would be if people were consistent about labeling threads as OT or not, but they aren't, and there's a lack of consensus regarding even what is OT. TH On 9/2/07, Greg Mills wrote: > As it has been pointed out, once you've set up a few filters it's easy to > sort posts based on their relevance to looping. A bit like a mail server > which has a dual-threshold spam filter. Those who can't spare the time to > read everything would have the ability to sort posts into three categories, > on-topic, off-topic for subjects not directly linked to looping, and the > alternative list for everything else. Those of us who want the Full Monty > can have that too. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 17:57:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 342353BFE2; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 17:57:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=aGIlcmZFino9IBofBVdD6PkqzDcXrdkHgziJsVTCgdmWtCQw1exZpBrTkrBYrLG5o+Gdlh3Rqat8tkk4eTCDRFNp0ad/Z2UTJQhvUpZUFLe0qhnP7g2aBi6SEyxrThZLU0UoDakhdXQ+fXncFqoPB4HhBiCRDUW2WYc8grGFZl4=; X-YMail-OSG: _nIx.08VM1kS7dR8EJGToU5uRcVOkWbXF9s2LJVDjUueVpg9ZlIRI7E7T.k6JC.I0Q-- Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 10:57:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: OT: FS Acoustic Modeling Preamp To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <416675.5020.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 17:57:03 +0000 (UTC) Hey max how much are u asking for it? cheers Luis --- max valentino wrote: > > > Hi Loopsters.... > I am selling a preamp which may be of interest to > those of you on the list who use acoustic guitars. > > I have a new DTAR MamaBear Digital Acoustic Preamp > for sale. There has been a thread recently about > modelers, and this is the one modeler which I like. > Rather than trying to morph your gtr into something > it is not, it allows you to rather "layer" the sound > of your own gtr in with the sound of some very > classic acoustic gtrs (various Martins, slope and > jumbo Gibsons, L5, Maccaferi, Taylors and even > National dobros...), as heard from several feet away > (the "acoustic" sound of the instrument). > It also does wonders to remove any of the dreaded > piezo "chirp". > Designed to work with UST and Mag Soundhole pickups > (won't work with dual source, SBT, or mics). > Features bypass, phase invert, in and out level > controls and a fine and usable DI. > (from the DTAR site...) > "For years, acoustic guitars have relied on pickups > for amplification. One problem: Even the best > acoustic guitars deliver an oversimplification of > true acoustic tone complexity when amplified. Using > something called AGE™ technology, Mama Bear takes > your guitar into the digital realm, neutralizes the > pickup, and then restores the natural body > resonance. The result: now the finest acoustic > guitars can sound like, well… themselves. Only > louder." > Provides 16 different digital filter choices to > neutralize the sound of your pickup so the AGE™ > technology can go to work. . AGE™ technology > provides 16 amazing guitar sounds emulated from 16 > amazing guitars, from parlors to super jumbos. > Allows you to dial up the guitar that matches your > guitar's body shape, or emulate other shapes. > > I have used it with great success on my Godin > semi-acoustic basses, as well as other ABGs. I am > selling only cos the Rick Turner (who designed the > MamaBear) basses I am now using just don't really > need this little bit 'o magic (yes, they really do > sound THAT good!). LAst week I did a solo gig where > I forgot to pack the MamaBear. Running the Turner > basses straight into a Demeter Tube DI and onto an > AI amp sound incredible...so I am giving thought to > slimming down my setup (again). > Tho designed for acoustic gtrs....acoustic basses > benefit from it as well. > I don't really like modelers....they just don't do > it for me, but the MB does. It has fantastic sound > (with basses and even moreso on acoustic gtrs....) > Very clean and warm and simple to use. > It is barely 2 mos old (the second of these I have > bought...) and comes with power supply, soft DTAR > case and mic stand mount adaptor > E mail me privately off list if interested. > > Max > _________________________________________________________________ > Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger  > http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=wlmailtagline www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 18:04:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A08933BFE6; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:04:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <200709021804.l82I4Qlc010525@mail.cruzio.com> Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:04:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008C_01C7ED51.08D30710" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Thread-Index: Acfti7UEqoPmHU2iQzSp8p7CJsYkTw== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:04:28 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C7ED51.08D30710 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I vote for 2 God I love my civic duty. Hey, While I have your attention, I'd like to lead you all in a sing along of my favorite Elvis tune, The Ghetto. I'll sing lead and everyone just chime in on the chorus. Everybody ready? a 1 a 2 a1234... As the snow flies On a cold and gray Chicago mornin' A poor little baby child is born In the ghetto (everybody!) IN THE GHETTO And his mama cries 'cause if there's one thing that she don't need it's another hungry mouth to feed In the ghetto (just the lap top users) IN THE GHETTO People, don't you understand the child needs a helping hand or he'll grow to be an angry young man some day Take a look at you and me, are we too blind to see, do we simply turn our heads and look the other way Well the world turns and a hungry little boy with a runny nose plays in the street as the cold wind blows In the ghetto (ok now the hardware folks) IN THE GHETTO And his hunger burns so he starts to roam the streets at night and he learns how to steal and he learns how to fight In the ghetto (woman and children only) IN THE GHETTO Then one night in desperation a young man breaks away He buys a gun, steals a car, tries to run, but he don't get far And his mama cries As a crowd gathers 'round an angry young man face down on the street with a gun in his hand In the ghetto (everybody really big now) IN THE GHETTO As her young man dies, on a cold and gray Chicago mornin', another little baby child is born Thanks everyone, now can we get back to the normal topics, please? Or am I going to have to ask everyone to keep singing classic songs with me? Don't make me have to start singing El Paso by Marty Robbins, OK? That's a really long song. Thanks Bill ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C7ED51.08D30710 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I vote for 2

God  I love my civic duty.  Hey, While I have your = attention,   I’d like to lead you all in a sing along of my = favorite Elvis tune, The Ghetto. I’ll sing lead and everyone just chime in on the chorus. Everybody  ready?

 a  1 a 2 a1234…..

As the snow flies
On a cold and gray Chicago mornin'
A poor little baby child is born
In the ghetto

 

(everybody!)

IN THE GHETTO


And his mama cries
'cause if there's one thing that she don't need
it's another hungry mouth to feed
In the ghetto  

 

(just the lap top users)

IN THE GHETTO

People, don't you understand
the child needs a helping hand
or he'll grow to be an angry young man some day
Take a look at you and me,
are we too blind to see,
do we simply turn our heads
and look the other way

Well the world turns
and a hungry little boy with a runny nose
plays in the street as the cold wind blows
In the ghetto

 (ok now the hardware folks)

 IN THE GHETTO

And his hunger burns
so he starts to roam the streets at night
and he learns how to steal
and he learns how to fight
In the ghetto

(woman and children only)

 IN THE GHETTO

Then one night in desperation
a young man breaks away
He buys a gun, steals a car,
tries to run, but he don't get far
And his mama cries

As a crowd gathers 'round an angry young man
face down on the street with a gun in his hand
In the ghetto

(everybody really big now)
IN THE GHETTO


As her young man dies,
on a cold and gray Chicago mornin',
another little baby child is born

 

 Thanks everyone, now can we get back to the normal topics, please? Or am I going to have to ask everyone to keep singing  = classic songs with me? Don’t make me have to start singing El Paso by Marty Robbins,  OK? =  That’s a really long song.

Thanks

Bill

------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C7ED51.08D30710-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 18:04:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6580C3BFE9; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:04:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ldoMhYrjUXDWnQBI5pxgRQUqEaV1ilwr708FhABmr6kh3OiVXsmh33lbf/Qhk9bfZr3w9XsZRQYdrI37ZPUKVBFFERF8vlhwTQ2tl/RCBJIarQfxCT8fwHqnSdM6cTVqkpor3yrC03+jtK9IKug/w0UePL+yc2u9tUX9bkybqXE=; X-YMail-OSG: iZ9asQkVM1ng5gBmcJaRYjZKRato7qIWADrcDBPtPj7ENyZG0fdh6ng8adGv_83XTUPZqGcITCMdGJSiDy9q_kNrzJeJ3hCrpsQwm.qjEQcTA6Jm.3U- Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 11:04:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: keeley electronics DL4 Mod- noisy! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20070829210554.306720@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <97407.18849.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:04:54 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks, i just had my DL4 modded by keely electronics and had a chance to try it today,unfortunately there is soemthing wrong with it its very noisy but when i wiggle and rock the cable from the output jacks it goes away anybody know what that might be or how i can try to fix it myself?i sprayed contact spray but it wont do it, id like to give ti a try before sending it back to the U.S from Germany, you would think those guys would at least test their mods before sending them out grrrr! thanx Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 18:18:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABCF23BFE0; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:18:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "dave eichenberger" To: References: <20070829210554.306720@gmx.net> <97407.18849.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <97407.18849.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: RE: keeley electronics DL4 Mod- noisy! Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 14:18:08 -0400 Message-ID: <024d01c7ed8d$9ec2d9d0$dc488d70$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acfti8Qf8ZwFdks2TBa9ewRLJ3kMHgAAbAMQ Content-Language: en-us X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18uPwu5cHRIfh55z5ceXtqBzep6ew+fIPYXGLR y6x1wvlQhUh3Oof16/Qhdz8NxG2vOMe2ohVHkGW9G5bG9bvP2x ZT/fVky56aMFWa14wlHnZ7BB7JM46Wn/e/rzpdpSmQ= Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:18:23 +0000 (UTC) I had read about this mod, but my DL4 never had the problems the mod was supposed to correct. Anyone else get it and notice a difference? Dave Eichenberger: http://www.hazardfactor.com/collectives Hi folks, i just had my DL4 modded by keely electronics and had a chance to try it today,unfortunately there is soemthing wrong with it its very noisy but when i wiggle and rock the cable from the output jacks it goes away anybody know what that might be or how i can try to fix it myself?i sprayed contact spray but it wont do it, id like to give ti a try before sending it back to the U.S from Germany, you would think those guys would at least test their mods before sending them out grrrr! thanx Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 20:43:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6022B3BFD6; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 20:43:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=K9HKVo4hhj6Roywr4Gb/j86+V5ahc2JFT4kjbmp+fN/jYFSQ56LsqBPivZ5/YzpIE817cp25vxjg2oV4DAvaSz/756qON/wCss1ZU3HglpIcEcRXnnSurjWV7zv2lcePcIcMiVIFaCdh5+f7o/X8K9QyiTvAqc96WaI5JZHfvMc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=XHO6YB/hG4pl7USmEOrUtQjc0X63T3cpBAQ9nufR0A5BGrfwbE2yJGOeyEKmJe7Nnj00IRzxGq9WaQD3G5/qKgDm19W9EGMzhfxLzgMx9EzS2UejHscuZrFPge6f0HLM1AgdcKs8+0WRj7qAqX2Fc6wsGp/TSOtnDZ5q5Im2fjc= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 13:43:20 -0700 From: "Doug Wellington" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: keeley electronics DL4 Mod- noisy! In-Reply-To: <97407.18849.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070829210554.306720@gmx.net> <97407.18849.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 20:43:22 +0000 (UTC) > i just had my DL4 modded by keely electronics and had > a chance to try it today,unfortunately there is > soemthing wrong with it its very noisy but when i > wiggle and rock the cable from the output jacks it > goes away anybody know what that might be or how i can > try to fix it myself? OK, silly question maybe, but did you try a different cable? Doug From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Sep 2 22:08:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD60C3BFE4; Sun, 2 Sep 2007 22:08:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 18:08:18 EDT Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:=2024=20HOUR=20POLL=20RESULTS:=A0=A0=201=20=3D?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=2032=A0=20=A0=A0=202=3D=200=A0=20=A0=20=A0=203=3D1=A0=20?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=A0=A0=20and=202=20uncommitted?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d27.1199f094.340c8e52_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: <6QYyfC.A.sAD.WRz2GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 22:08:22 +0000 (UTC) --part1_d27.1199f094.340c8e52_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 9/2/07 8:59:53 AM, looppool@cruzio.com writes: > then there was Michael Klobuchar's post > 1.....der ya go!.....m www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour --part1_d27.1199f094.340c8e52_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Get a sneak= peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour --part1_d27.1199f094.340c8e52_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 00:37:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C483F3BF1C; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 00:37:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2007 17:40:48 -0700 Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) Cc: To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" From: Scott Drengsen In-Reply-To: <000c01c7ed45$f6d66300$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> Message-Id: <5078B34C-59B6-11DC-BD1C-00050263BC96@earthlink.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 00:37:53 +0000 (UTC) unsubscribe On Sunday, September 2, 2007, at 02:45 AM, Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > 2 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 03:07:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4C023BF1A; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 03:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <5.2.1.1.0.20070902195403.02c66610@mail.onemodelplace.com> X-Sender: CaraQuinn@mail.onemodelplace.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.1 Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 20:10:00 -0700 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com From: Cara Quinn Subject: Quite enough, don't you think?... :) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-24A84F0F Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 03:07:33 +0000 (UTC) Hey All, Wow, where to begin... I personally am rather used to the off-topic nature of this list, having been on / off it for a while, but really, if it's really that important to some to have another list, than no biggie as far as I'm concerned. However, I think it's simply ridiculous that now, even after this other list has been formed, now the off topic posts are reflexive of the decision of whether a post should be posted here or there! I mean OMG!!! This is generating just as much OT noise as any of the actual original OT posts! Bloody hell! I'm actually finding this stuff way more frustrating, annoying etc... than any previous so called OT material. lol! Go figure!... If the people here still want to be OT then fine, so be it, let's just post what we post and let members of the other list do the same. If we want to be strictly on topic, then let's do THAT; but this waffling back / forth is even noisier and way not as fun as good salsa recipes! :) I hope this makes sense, and of course, these are just my thoughts... Have an awesome day and I do hope the list can figure out a direction (whatever that may be) and just go with it... All my best to all of you!... Smiles, Cara :) --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 4:29 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 07:14:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A71AC3BF2B; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 07:14:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002f01c7edfa$2844e880$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> Reply-To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <008101c7eceb$12998870$3702a8c0@macbookxp> <2E6CE399-D660-4CBB-B553-2BF89FC107F1@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Hassel on topic at Punkt Festival Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 09:15:05 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18o7x2Zo8/Eql3O/XMRTjb0drxrfo5uPFIIDKp AsBZ8Ez5eGWbTLJ9uC5UuOmjQfH4DFnxKRXgqJ1C8IC1Msqhmw 9dC924FSg2LsmbgaHAaBrSd/TD6k73t Resent-Message-ID: <-pnhU.A.IlB.nR72GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 07:14:47 +0000 (UTC) great! have you, per, or anyone else, captured a set with arve henriksen? i would be very interested in hearing that. soul long - tilmann From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 08:48:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A55003BF20; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 08:48:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <006d01c7ee07$2d4b9ba0$0201a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 09:48:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <69LxB.A.GuD.ip82GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 08:48:34 +0000 (UTC) 2 - why complicate things? ----- Original Message ----- From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Sunday, 2 September, 2007 00:27 AM Subject: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight > Since we are devoting so much energy to discussing this > possibilitiy of an offtopic list > > Honestly, I think there are far fewer people who object to off topic > posts here > than we are surmising but I realize I don't know for sure. > > Why don't we find out. > > > Please tell us what you think. > > > 1) There should be an offtopic list that resides off of this site > > 2) It's fine , we can leave things the way they are. > > To make this quick, just leave a 1) or a 2) in your message body. > > As a matter of fact, let's not inundate the list with more discussion on > this particular thread. > Just quickly log in with your preference....................explain away > in the previous OT: posts. > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 10:01:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F7003BF28; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:01:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 18:01:27 +0800 From: Randolf Arriola Subject: Re: keeley electronics DL4 Mod- noisy! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <06e601c7ee11$65270820$6601a8c0@embryo> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <20070829210554.306720@gmx.net> <97407.18849.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:01:42 +0000 (UTC) It does seem to me that you could be experiencing a bad patch cable. If it's the input/output connectors that should be quite easily resolved with a quick dose of contact cleaner. The DL4 is a really nice and would be much nicer if the looping time was expanded with digital time readouts. One other thing though the footswitches are espicially prone to failure. Mine needed replacing just after 3 weeks...bought new. Another thing to note if you do use the polarity reverse adaptor jack for use with a One Spot Power adaptor to plug into the DL4's power jack. These adaptor jacks are prone to failure if bent too much too often. I've also modded my own DL4 to resolve the slight volume drop and darkening effects of the bypassed tone. Good Luck. Randolf Arriola (aka the embryo) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/theembryo.htm http://www.myspace.com/the_embryo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Wellington" To: Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 4:43 AM Subject: Re: keeley electronics DL4 Mod- noisy! >> i just had my DL4 modded by keely electronics and had >> a chance to try it today,unfortunately there is >> soemthing wrong with it its very noisy but when i >> wiggle and rock the cable from the output jacks it >> goes away anybody know what that might be or how i can >> try to fix it myself? > > OK, silly question maybe, but did you try a different cable? > > Doug > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 10:52:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 588843BF2D; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:52:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <007601c7ee18$83e9ec80$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 03:52:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:52:06 +0000 (UTC) Travis wrote: "Well, it would be if people were consistent about labeling threads as OT or not, but they aren't, and there's a lack of consensus regarding even what is OT." Right you are, Travis and but I do believe we have a strong consensus to get on anyone's case who is 1) not correctly using OT indicators on appropriate threads 2) copying old texts so that the daily digest swells to several posts a day 3) change thread names when the subject hasn't changed and/or 4) not changing thread names when the topic has obviously veered way off topic The whole system will work better if we are all a little more sensitive, self aware and thinking about the common good of all on the list. yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 13:42:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 75B903BF30; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 13:42:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: midifriedchicken@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:42:12 +0000 Message-Id: <090320071342.2849.46DC0F34000B071300000B212216557996020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWlkaWZyaWVkY2hpY2tlbkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== Resent-Message-ID: <6g8TdB.A.wEF.38A3GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 13:42:15 +0000 (UTC) 2 -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "RICK WALKER" > Since we are devoting so much energy to discussing this > possibilitiy of an offtopic list > > Honestly, I think there are far fewer people who object to off topic posts > here > than we are surmising but I realize I don't know for sure. > > Why don't we find out. > > > Please tell us what you think. > > > 1) There should be an offtopic list that resides off of this site > > 2) It's fine , we can leave things the way they are. > > To make this quick, just leave a 1) or a 2) in your message body. > > As a matter of fact, let's not inundate the list with more discussion on > this particular thread. > Just quickly log in with your preference....................explain away in > the previous OT: posts. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 13:49:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5430F3BF48; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 13:49:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: midifriedchicken@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Alternative to a laptop? Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:49:40 +0000 Message-Id: <090320071349.23498.46DC10F40007A53300005BCA2216557996020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWlkaWZyaWVkY2hpY2tlbkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== Resent-Message-ID: <2rL_Y.A.dbF.1DB3GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 13:49:42 +0000 (UTC) There are a few bands using these. Or at least Imacs. Seems reasonable as they are way smaller then a Marshall stack. We had no complaints with those 20 years ago. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Per Boysen > Wonder if the new "all-in-one" iMac would be a good alternative to a > laptop? > http://www.apple.com/imac/ > > Much less expensive, better performance and way larger hard drive. I > have not been able to find a figure on weight or exact measures. But > the 20" model would fit nicely into this soft-case: > http://www.ilugger.com/blue-imac-carrying-case.cfm > > Maybe one should by one of these, use an iPhone as a wireless > keyboard to run Windows XP with Mobius? ;-)) > > Per > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 14:04:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E07B33BF5A; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 14:04:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ikCSA4LHBydb7GnycudcqW/1LUg8VQEv8+283kQJ7YLoyd8FOL77mSZ4wY67xgnt9ZDdVWvrtZk7RQgh0JtU7p8oPijq45rwDXw0lrl9uVDmfCcVVACJPJ+QY4vWEs1unIxZ4cBYcsLrL/McNcjs3CXdMvkEiOSaNjRh4uR3Nf0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=GS+qubZ3mLoWMcZjSfZeuii477KO2MMOOs9gYj3TncUfRJIdAciJKbmkbdj/PViRWHScFLYIC6CFBRSMA6QrgJp4I5aYy5pHyYQnDhwHz/Najy87PbTXaRQdXgcJfLGMxWAby/R7ibia+EwcQdB55ZTE3xmDkSLBC9keaBZIa/A= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <090320071349.23498.46DC10F40007A53300005BCA2216557996020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> References: <090320071349.23498.46DC10F40007A53300005BCA2216557996020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3EB80987-2978-4373-AA71-32058FE346CA@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Alternative to a laptop? Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:04:45 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 14:04:54 +0000 (UTC) Or maybe the Mini would be good alternative? Just heard they now go 2GHz Core 2 Duo. http://www.apple.com/macmini/ Just the size of a battery driven Marshall practice baby amp. I'd like to research if you can set up system and software to not use a computer monitor. If that's possible the Mini would be the most compact looper. I don't think I'd need to see the graphics if looping with Mobius. It depends on if you can set up the box to do all this on power-up: load the BootCamp system Windows XP and load the Bidule session with Mobius. It's a scaring thought going to a gig with no screen monitor because there might come up an issue that needs an instant fix. Maybe you could keep a 12" flat screen in your pocket or so? Hm... regarding keyboard I think this box has bluetooth which means you can program it with an iPhone? (is that correct, Mark) per On 3 sep 2007, at 15.49, midifriedchicken@comcast.net wrote: > There are a few bands using these. Or at least Imacs. Seems > reasonable as they are way smaller then a Marshall stack. We had no > complaints with those 20 years ago. > > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Per Boysen >> Wonder if the new "all-in-one" iMac would be a good alternative to a >> laptop? >> http://www.apple.com/imac/ >> >> Much less expensive, better performance and way larger hard drive. I >> have not been able to find a figure on weight or exact measures. But >> the 20" model would fit nicely into this soft-case: >> http://www.ilugger.com/blue-imac-carrying-case.cfm >> >> Maybe one should by one of these, use an iPhone as a wireless >> keyboard to run Windows XP with Mobius? ;-)) >> >> Per >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 14:13:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5DFCE3BF5E; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 14:13:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: midifriedchicken@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com (Loopers Delight) Subject: Native Instruments Kore.... Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:13:41 +0000 Message-Id: <090320071413.4517.46DC1695000A57A6000011A52215567074020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWlkaWZyaWVkY2hpY2tlbkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 14:13:54 +0000 (UTC) Does anyone use this system? Does it actually host VSTs? I know it gets very high marks from users. Last week we were discussing small pedals as simple hosts for VST effects/instruments with limited controls. This seems to be a similer approach. Although it seems to be more of a control and organizational device. But still, looks very interesting. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 14:35:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C1703BF49; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 14:35:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ch0YRGJGyowO1Ifjuy/sxCikJyoSKaAqmEPTwD2lBixPKkdn7KAZ3xhbN2N0R+rFmO9woR+ZDTuc0zk+CRqENVM9nZCvQ+NSLHokYWXawjHMp9ADacaTLF5uaqSYlhBAEvRQ7152onqW+p/V9glVF9ML4sh0SWlxlAhOXtmOb7Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pkD7QQW1WiMjBQqe8HZnqf18uYNK7mQzhofewX4q/OMDjLLcucVviLcGJnkc1ILuHWCsxj3rtky8boox2X4+QleuVqGIwP45V93GAs7miRB6EKFavhLX48nfY4swedPp2awfM47RSedqUYVSCqqRlWuLa1od/OYEdgRi8X9OCiA= Message-ID: <4759e5740709030735m25cd856cr162917a695298a89@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:35:44 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Alternative to a laptop? In-Reply-To: <3EB80987-2978-4373-AA71-32058FE346CA@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14086_23826363.1188830144918" References: <090320071349.23498.46DC10F40007A53300005BCA2216557996020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> <3EB80987-2978-4373-AA71-32058FE346CA@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <3luIPC.A.LHH.EvB3GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 14:35:48 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_14086_23826363.1188830144918 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I know it's possible to buy rather inexpensive and smaller touch-screens to carry along with. One of my good colleagues who is committed to 'not touching his computer in performance', and who programs his concerts in Max, simply mounts a little touch screen on his mic stand with a few buttons. the computer starts up the patch as a startup item and he's good to go, his 15 inch laptop closed and hidden a few feet away... so there's not any difference I can see with doing it with a mini. That gives you some visual feedback, AND a substitute for a keyboard for navigating. oh, and because he only needs one trigger to go from preset to preset (looping included which he's made automatic), he uses a mouse on the floor, tapping with his foot. But let's not go TOO far, he's never used a bluetooth wireless mouse for that. too many resources, too expensive and those little standard mice are ubiquitous and inexpensive... I'd *love* to do it all this way, just haven't really taken the time yet, but nice to know I've seen it done... hope this is a useful contribution. oh, Michael's music can be heard at http://earspasm.com, though I don't think he has any diagrams or that he talks that much about technology there. All pieces are written in Max/MSP. And there is one other guy with whom I have the pleasure of working who uses has packed a mini, touchscreen, faderbox and power into an old style briefcase, and essentially 'plays' that as an instrument in the same way as the above... His name is Jesse Stiles and one piece which we've done together is on my myspace page called uforeligions. all best, todd On 9/3/07, Per Boysen wrote: > > Or maybe the Mini would be good alternative? Just heard they now go > 2GHz Core 2 Duo. > http://www.apple.com/macmini/ > Just the size of a battery driven Marshall practice baby amp. I'd > like to research if you can set up system and software to not use a > computer monitor. If that's possible the Mini would be the most > compact looper. I don't think I'd need to see the graphics if looping > with Mobius. It depends on if you can set up the box to do all this > on power-up: load the BootCamp system Windows XP and load the Bidule > session with Mobius. It's a scaring thought going to a gig with no > screen monitor because there might come up an issue that needs an > instant fix. -- http://www.toddreynolds.com |: http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic |: ------=_Part_14086_23826363.1188830144918 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I know it's possible to buy rather inexpensive and smaller touch-screens to carry along with.  One of my good colleagues who is committed to 'not touching his computer in performance', and who programs his concerts in Max, simply mounts a little touch screen on his mic stand with a few buttons.  

the computer starts up the patch as a startup item and he's good to go, his 15 inch laptop closed and hidden a few feet away... so there's not any difference I can see with doing it with a mini. That gives you some visual feedback, AND a substitute for a keyboard for navigating.  

oh, and because he only needs one trigger to go from preset to preset (looping included which he's made automatic), he uses a mouse on the floor, tapping with his foot.  But let's not go TOO far, he's never used a bluetooth wireless mouse for that.  too many resources, too expensive and those little standard mice are ubiquitous and inexpensive... 

I'd love to do it all this way, just haven't really taken the time yet, but nice to know I've seen it done...   hope this is a useful contribution.

oh, Michael's music can be heard at http://earspasm.com, though I don't think he has any diagrams or that he talks that much about technology there.  All pieces are written in Max/MSP.

And there is one other guy with whom I have the pleasure of working who uses has packed a mini, touchscreen, faderbox and power into an old style briefcase, and essentially 'plays' that as an instrument in the same way as the above... His name is Jesse Stiles and one piece which we've done together is on my myspace page called uforeligions.

all best,

todd



On 9/3/07, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Or maybe the Mini would be good alternative? Just heard they now go
2GHz Core 2 Duo.
http://www.apple.com/macmini/
Just the size of a battery driven Marshall practice baby amp. I'd
like to research if you can set up system and software to not use a
computer monitor. If that's possible the Mini would be the most
compact looper. I don't think I'd need to see the graphics if looping
with Mobius. It depends on if you can set up the box to do all this
on power-up: load the BootCamp system Windows XP and load the Bidule
session with Mobius. It's a scaring thought going to a gig with no
screen monitor because there might come up an issue that needs an
instant fix. 

--
http://www.toddreynolds.com                    |:
http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic  |:

 
------=_Part_14086_23826363.1188830144918-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 14:40:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 87E1C3BF48; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 14:40:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 10:40:03 EDT Subject: Re: Alternative to a laptop? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bcc.126abca2.340d76c3_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 14:40:06 +0000 (UTC) --part1_bcc.126abca2.340d76c3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 9/3/07 10:05:14 AM, perboysen@gmail.com writes: > regarding keyboard I think this box has bluetooth which=A0 > means you can program it with an iPhone? (is that correct, Mark) >=20 under the header RE: unsubscribe mark wrote: << Me too!>> -----Original Message----- From: Bernhard Wagner LD [mailto:loopdelightml-NDI3MDE=3D-@bernhardwagner.ne= t] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 10:58 AM To: Loopers Subject: OT: unsubscribe <> it seems that mark has abandoned ship due to ot stuff.....m www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at=20 http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour --part1_bcc.126abca2.340d76c3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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regarding keyboard I=20= think this box has bluetooth which=A0
means you can program it with an iPhone? (is that correct, Mark)

under the header RE: unsubscribe mark wrote:

<< Me too!>>

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<<I'll be unsubscribing from LD for a while>>


it seems that mark has abandoned ship due to ot stuff.....m

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Get a sneak= peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour --part1_bcc.126abca2.340d76c3_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 14:41:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9DDD43BF34; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 14:41:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 776574038 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 15:41:55 +0100 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7204F8B75D@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <006d01c7ee07$2d4b9ba0$0201a8c0@eluk1> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Thread-Index: AcfuOJML3wwcSkolT2C7obevN7csmg== References: <006d01c7ee07$2d4b9ba0$0201a8c0@eluk1> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Sep 2007 14:41:56.0218 (UTC) FILETIME=[936AD5A0:01C7EE38] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 14:41:58 +0000 (UTC) 2. definitely & defiantly. without the noise, the signal is dull & lifeless. if I wanted pure tech/science from musicians on a mailing list, I would be emailing kraftwerk instead of you guys. :-) d. From gggggggg_uuuuuu@yahoo.co.jp Mon Sep 3 15:30:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 434 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 03 Sep 2007 15:30:45 UTC Received: from web3315.mail.ogk.yahoo.co.jp (web3315.mail.ogk.yahoo.co.jp [124.83.168.29]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 397163BF2F for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 15:30:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27045 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Sep 2007 15:23:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=yj20050223; d=yahoo.co.jp; h=Message-ID:Received:X-RocketDSI:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KA8jzvuy5a+pjWWPVUt39k8/fv/9AgjD++zIJS7uOMphFyMwhwRGyM1q6DTN2RgNS5TGbA5G85Y/D9SpwiZqRh5DJreHbyiTFImBesAk/YBa8R0E3ieuSMJKHEEyuq/r ; Message-ID: <20070903152323.27043.qmail@web3315.mail.ogk.yahoo.co.jp> Received: from [41.219.214.9] by web3315.mail.ogk.yahoo.co.jp via HTTP; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 00:23:23 JST X-RocketDSI: i=124.83.168.29;s=w Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:23:23 +0900 (JST) From: Dave Morris Reply-To: davemorris_4@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Attn:Sir/Madam, To: looparc@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1956405232-1188833003=:25280" --0-1956405232-1188833003=:25280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp $B?7$7$$%a!<%k%"%I%l%9$r$*CN$i$;$7$^$9?7$7$$%a!<%k%"%I%l%9!'(B gggggggg_uuuuuu@yahoo.co.jp Attn:Sir/Madam, I AM LIBERIAN I NEED YOUR CONSENT TO DEPOSIT MY COMMISSION WITH YOU ($5.5M) I GOT FROM CRUDE OIL BUNKRY DEAL ON THE SEA SHORES OF NIGERIA AND LIBERIA TERRITORY SEND YOUR FULL NAMES CONTACT ADDRESS, AND PRIVATE PHONE NUMBERS.I SHALL COMPENSATE YOU WITH 10%. - Dave Morris --0-1956405232-1188833003=:25280 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-2022-jp
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--0-1956405232-1188833003=:25280-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 20:26:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C18193BF3F; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 20:26:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: <0f1301c7ec16$2b3d45e0$fbb1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <89448D66-F1BB-4F0B-AA82-1449A4BF1F96@baymoon.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Mark Hamburg Subject: Re: Alternative to a laptop? Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 13:26:04 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 20:26:12 +0000 (UTC) On Aug 31, 2007, at 4:03 PM, Doug Cox wrote: > On a Macbook Pro, this RAM-shortage might not be a problem - WITH > THE NEW Santa Rosa platform. It is definitely a well-documented > problem with all other Mac/Intel platforms. The new "36-bit" chip > allows access to 4GB, and presumably (this is where I'm not > positive) OSX can really use it all because it doesn't do what > Windoze does (steal some of it). In addition, 32-bit Mac apps can > still only access 2GB each. The limit for 32-bit Mac applications actually seems to be somewhere around 3 gigabytes or so per application. Beyond that the system is pretty good about using extra RAM to support more applications or as a disk cache. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 20:55:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B4C23BF3F; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 20:55:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <003301c7ecef$99e1cf00$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 13:43:04 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 20:55:34 +0000 (UTC) 2 -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 21:04:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3CEF3BF52; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:04:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.5 Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 23:06:13 +0200 Subject: Scenic Panner @ Ars Electronica 09.09.07 From: jayrope To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-PopBeforeSMTPSenders: adm@kliklak.net,bottrap@kliklak.net,catering@touchdonttouch.com,choerchms@kliklak.net,donations@kliklak.net,girlsunited@kliklak.net,hardman@kliklak.net,imperial@kliklak.net,janek@kliklak.net,jayrope@kliklak.net,jlistshit@kliklak.net,jrploopers@kliklak.net,kimmoelomaa@kliklak.net,loi@kliklak.net,msblue@kliklak.net,msgreen@kliklak.net,msorange@kliklak.net,msred@kliklak.net,novocaution@kliklak.net,ohsotellus@kliklak.net,pinsky@kliklak.net,reggie@kliklak.net,rls@kliklak.net,rope@kliklak.net,scenic@kliklak.net,siegele@kliklak.net,sighs@kliklak.net,silkkonvertor@kliklak.net,tvworkshop@kliklak.net,underwarps@kliklak.net,usb@kliklak.net X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - minsk.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - kliklak.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:04:16 +0000 (UTC) Scenic Panner are delighted to perform = live and twice at Ars Electronica = 9.9.07 / 19:30h & 20:45h @ Lentos, Brucknerhaus (Grosser Saal) Donaupark, Linz, Austria Please reconfirm the latest showtimes here: http://www.aec.at/de/festival2007/program/project.asp?iProjectID=13991 Google video (Berlin-Marzahn) http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=7490975723997994565&hl=en *used loopers: Electrix Repeater / Lexicon Jamman (forever)* ==== Scenic Panner is a music-controlled super wide screen video application, that creates highly esthetic fly-bys of city panoramas from thousands of single object images taken in Chicago, Berlin and Munich - built/programmed by Urs Hofer and Stefan Bischoff (Zurich/Lucern) and played live by Arik Hayut X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B72C3BEF4; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:36:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Lx2zOsQ+CMCRAtVpQ4/AKmMF733n3kwAdEaIwDczdyfkmAZdCUawheWGzK1Rk2o0WgmFxqIz9EuK0KDt3KMVqDxIGIG5T3zqrjOJm8W0ZEotXRbInoZzwf+LPmWe45nXMBJJJFCD6vknBV/Io+GQZHwo+/3oRHObKCevovNastY=; X-YMail-OSG: SmEE2foVM1k4Nw7_hpEz6slHnfmTvF7MuHsT30oh7iR7EGmfhpVi77eJDirC7NeW2lU0xY.x5uFm40MLhLLKBg_0P.70csjeKTFu1GsK8NG0l_sQlXlfOnqtUh1wmw-- Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 14:36:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: keeley electronics DL4 Mod- noisy! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <06e601c7ee11$65270820$6601a8c0@embryo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <563821.4898.qm@web38612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <8SxEuB.A.I-H.E5H3GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:36:04 +0000 (UTC) Hey Randolf, did you notice a big difference after the mod?unfortunately i havent been able to try mine! cheers Luis > I've also modded my own DL4 to resolve the slight > volume drop and darkening > effects of the bypassed tone. > > Good Luck. > > Randolf Arriola (aka the embryo) > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/theembryo.htm > http://www.myspace.com/the_embryo > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Wellington" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 4:43 AM > Subject: Re: keeley electronics DL4 Mod- noisy! > > > >> i just had my DL4 modded by keely electronics and > had > >> a chance to try it today,unfortunately there is > >> soemthing wrong with it its very noisy but when i > >> wiggle and rock the cable from the output jacks > it > >> goes away anybody know what that might be or how > i can > >> try to fix it myself? > > > > OK, silly question maybe, but did you try a > different cable? > > > > Doug > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 21:36:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B06D3BF48; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:36:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=fbytk2WuYwUNAxZt48ySYnJACSIWmQA8wtL7trpYygA/K4YdF3Ti6F/clRkt2JVlQUUBPyOhMQhkHNQBOM5RV2yUzTN0uiGyoBVGllhd8Zbdf42zmwzWURGSCNXJAX2ngH45MwDVQb159sac8M9ey9Xh4yEoA40cV3gz1NPuyT0=; X-YMail-OSG: nOz.eikVM1lmprBCWI5h45kTHmxOVX4NMrIE.jSqY7afzLKzAWc78tboyc3WObPBfAoqcHG1djOXIhZmbFbEGimZ4MHqVYoovvbyIwij.lNDZel0JDJ80mrroz5jwg-- Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 14:36:08 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: keeley electronics DL4 Mod- noisy! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <06e601c7ee11$65270820$6601a8c0@embryo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <282135.52314.qm@web38609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:36:09 +0000 (UTC) Hey Randolf, did you notice a big difference after the mod?unfortunately i havent been able to try mine! cheers Luis > I've also modded my own DL4 to resolve the slight > volume drop and darkening > effects of the bypassed tone. > > Good Luck. > > Randolf Arriola (aka the embryo) > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/theembryo.htm > http://www.myspace.com/the_embryo > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Wellington" > To: > Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 4:43 AM > Subject: Re: keeley electronics DL4 Mod- noisy! > > > >> i just had my DL4 modded by keely electronics and > had > >> a chance to try it today,unfortunately there is > >> soemthing wrong with it its very noisy but when i > >> wiggle and rock the cable from the output jacks > it > >> goes away anybody know what that might be or how > i can > >> try to fix it myself? > > > > OK, silly question maybe, but did you try a > different cable? > > > > Doug > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Choose the right car based on your needs. 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Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 21:39:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C46A83BF48; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:39:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Rfh/OJ43DWzeKHW/9Qp5yEpu+SsbjsrHmLVUloStcG4NtEQCbJ2TJpby1TOHBDgmFIk4bdm4pX2M9oKNRvJYyNZLzT7jHiGXwGWT94vOxSo/8j9fuEqZLcdRSPJtr9nZoDmXrijpC7K62Jhx2+P4g/gOO+7os/XqqMy5wRrbR/g=; X-YMail-OSG: NYmENkUVM1mbJg2aCFsgGAF1fR.1pYhqZLLTGaoA23EqRCD3qKLBy.QkVk0LmwNiKg-- Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 14:39:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: keeley electronics DL4 Mod- noisy! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <644066.53122.qm@web38609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:39:04 +0000 (UTC) yes,many different ones! thanx Luis --- Doug Wellington wrote: > > i just had my DL4 modded by keely electronics and > had > > a chance to try it today,unfortunately there is > > soemthing wrong with it its very noisy but when i > > wiggle and rock the cable from the output jacks it > > goes away anybody know what that might be or how i > can > > try to fix it myself? > > OK, silly question maybe, but did you try a > different cable? > > Doug > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 22:40:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53CBE3BF35; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:40:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: midifriedchicken@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Alternative to a laptop? Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 22:40:43 +0000 Message-Id: <090320072240.14039.46DC8D6B00059F61000036D72212020784020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWlkaWZyaWVkY2hpY2tlbkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:40:45 +0000 (UTC) Isnt there a way to link 2 computers together to utilize the cpu of both? I seem to remember when the G5's first came out, the University of Wherever linked like 100 G5s to create a supercomputer. I also think Macworld did an article on linking to laptops. If possible, that would fix a lot of issues. You culd use a Powerbook and have a Mini Mac as added CPU power. I think you have to use an ethernet connection, but isnt this possible? MFC From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 22:45:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF8713BF36; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:45:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: Scenic Panner @ Ars Electronica 09.09.07 Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 15:45:40 -0700 Message-ID: <006201c7ee7c$2885c800$79915800$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acfubyc2TV68UJERQWCEYS26ps+alAADN7NQ Content-Language: en-us X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: D907602ce00004fb5.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 22:45:31 +0000 (UTC) Great! I don't quite understand about the midi note mapped to an object, but I like the youtube video a lot! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUmrFh0SidA -Qua -----Original Message----- From: jayrope [mailto:jrploopers@kliklak.net] Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 2:06 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Scenic Panner @ Ars Electronica 09.09.07 Scenic Panner are delighted to perform = live and twice at Ars Electronica = 9.9.07 / 19:30h & 20:45h @ Lentos, Brucknerhaus (Grosser Saal) Donaupark, Linz, Austria Please reconfirm the latest showtimes here: http://www.aec.at/de/festival2007/program/project.asp?iProjectID=13991 Google video (Berlin-Marzahn) http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=7490975723997994565&hl=en *used loopers: Electrix Repeater / Lexicon Jamman (forever)* ==== Scenic Panner is a music-controlled super wide screen video application, that creates highly esthetic fly-bys of city panoramas from thousands of single object images taken in Chicago, Berlin and Munich - built/programmed by Urs Hofer and Stefan Bischoff (Zurich/Lucern) and played live by Arik Hayut X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20DE83BF64; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:05:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=QKxZ5jUIXnRwjs7zASEJao+rcK+BAbMnsXlX+7Q0pwD9LM920/awpi9UgJxobfTTHwj+nyhiMN/9I8J1ur/6fr1RaYcsqYDavAhLs4kMG1gsTi131jcRMyZ67qAQoocNnV8DhPokaYfvWXSBHY58rtk7E4oeptTWXo25k+lzoqs=; X-YMail-OSG: 3Uk8IFIVM1k9EAMo0ZDVGaIyjgv1kWcqBVtSjKSKBwzVyEzltOclGg.s.C581oTwS8jhWZY9Lb22uKyFlIURsbzAPQdP3EoU8zjTk9Tu2hCfdq1rYPrRnnc8xpxItw-- Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:05:30 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Subject: RE: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7204F8B75D@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <31576.83000.qm@web32702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <4agC5.A.2wD.8MJ3GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:05:33 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, You might, but kraftwerk would definately NOT e-mail you back. Rig --- "Goddard, Duncan" wrote: > 2. definitely & defiantly. without the noise, the > signal is dull & > lifeless. if I wanted pure tech/science from > musicians on a mailing > list, I would be emailing kraftwerk instead of you > guys. :-) > > d. > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 23:41:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 347063BF43; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:41:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <090320072240.14039.46DC8D6B00059F61000036D72212020784020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> References: <090320072240.14039.46DC8D6B00059F61000036D72212020784020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Matthew F. McCabe" Subject: Re: Alternative to a laptop? Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:41:16 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: <_oqhYB.A.QIF.euJ3GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:41:19 +0000 (UTC) On Sep 3, 2007, at 3:40 PM, midifriedchicken@comcast.net wrote: > Isnt there a way to link 2 computers together to utilize the cpu of > both? I seem to remember when the G5's first came out, the > University of Wherever linked like 100 G5s to create a > supercomputer. I also think Macworld did an article on linking to > laptops. If possible, that would fix a lot of issues. You culd use > a Powerbook and have a Mini Mac as added CPU power. I think you > have to use an ethernet connection, but isnt this possible? You can do this in Logic...setting up the second computer as a Node. --- King Never www.kingnever.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Sep 3 23:41:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66F5D3BF50; Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:41:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=TsY4A6LJbSVSa2KoudJ/EYsUCG6UZKVPdxanreyAuQU2G5RjxqtK9lHxhUTW6zoTJj2xAgokCxF8mZT1IZr0yxuFO5ZU/FSZM4VLBlxMCm3jc/gNvYLh9vbc4EL8taZrqMudxqgKRAfjO3KgO0pEfVZgze0xc9LADDjRZ2z3JVo=; X-YMail-OSG: Fi.ocNsVM1mtObqpRHblxfLcKzmb4ecNeMYNj8hQJdXkiSFZP1vD0zp33DTG9Q3ITsSJ5jNb1StTWus.yLjlogAY0pedbVj3.Ao9Qyjv56j2Y3TEovIqIQMKR3M0UQ-- Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:41:42 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: AW: RME Firewire 800 and Guitar Amp Sim - Preamps To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000a01c7e987$a0886aa0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <23367.91242.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 23:41:43 +0000 (UTC) i also became tired of using my preamp direclty into my mackie mixer,my ears just didnt accept the tone coming out,but hauling amps plus mixers is just too mch for a one man show,once i plugged back into a tube amp that was it, end of the story! wouldnt it be cool to have a mixer with a killer bulit in amp simulator input? Luis --- Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > > > pickup and strings on it....sounds like total > crap when you run it > > > through a regular line input or mixer board, > etc." > > Heh heh...I said that, Rainer, not Luca. :) It > was an exerpt > > I later discovered that Luca didn't say it and hoped > that you would tell me > who made this statement...thanks, I wouldn't have > expected that to come from > Luca. > > > still stand to my comment that for me plugging any > guitar > > (solid body electric or my precious hollow body > PRS, or the > > tons of other guitars I've owned over the years) > direcly into > > a mixer board produces very undesireable results > and tone. > > "For me" it does sound like crap...sterile and > lifeless. > > Plugging an electric guitar (with passive > electronics) directly into the > mixing board produces undesirable results because > the mixer ins have a low > impedance in the 1E2Ohm range. Passive electronics > don't like that. > > Apart from that issue (which you can easily > circumvent by using a DI box), > it may have to do with your choice of sound. > Sometimes, I'm forced to play > unprocessed (like at the y2k6loopfest main festival > gig of which you'll find > the recordings on the festival website) because my > ampsim crashes, but I > wouldn't call it crap apart from my own playing. > (The setup in that case was > Bill's wonderful pink strat into Behringer DI20 into > Firebox mic in and from > there unprocessed to FOH). > > Rainer > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! 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Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 00:00:49 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 04:00:54 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-10-117852501 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > Does anyone use this system? Does it actually host VSTs? I know it > gets very high marks from users. Last week we were discussing > small pedals as simple hosts for VST effects/instruments with > limited controls. This seems to be a similer approach. Although it > seems to be more of a control and organizational device. But still, > looks very interesting. I have it. I have to say that I don't use it very much at all. I thought that the multi-timbral approach might be great for doing layers and splits- given this is how I used to work in the 90's- but I think my workflow has evolved over the years and it doesn't really do it for me. I'm actually using it more as a 2in 2 out audio interface alongside the HD3 rig, mostly for auditioning samples in Library Monkey before they are dragged into the sequencer. I think part of the problem is that the audio unit is quite expensive in DSP terms. Loading 4 instances of FM8 in Kore is much more processor intensive than loading 4 FM8's as separate instruments. Jim Richmnd --Apple-Mail-10-117852501 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

Does anyone use this system? = Does it actually host VSTs? I know it gets very high marks from = users.=A0 Last week we were = discussing small pedals as simple hosts for VST effects/instruments with = limited controls. This seems to be a similer approach. Although it seems = to be more of a control and organizational device. But still, looks very = interesting.=A0

=

I have it.
I have to say that I = don't use it very much at all.

I thought that the = multi-timbral approach might be great for doing layers and splits- given = this is how I used to work in the 90's- but I think my workflow has = evolved over the years and it doesn't really do it for me.
I'm = actually using it more as a 2in 2 out audio interface alongside the HD3 = rig, mostly for auditioning samples in Library Monkey before they are = dragged into the sequencer.
I think part of the problem is = that the audio unit is quite expensive in DSP terms.
Loading 4 = instances of FM8 in Kore is much more processor intensive than loading 4 = FM8's as separate instruments.

Jim = Richmnd
= --Apple-Mail-10-117852501-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 06:20:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 50BB43BF37; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 06:20:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: Subject: RE: Scenic Panner @ Ars Electronica 09.09.07 Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:20:42 +0200 Message-ID: <002d01c7eebb$b93baf60$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002E_01C7EECC.7CC47F60" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcfuuVksXGUX1sg8RtyQpL8tAawdfwAAikdg In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 06:20:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C7EECC.7CC47F60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Google video (Berlin-Marzahn) > http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=7490975723997994565&hl=en > *used loopers: Electrix Repeater / Lexicon Jamman (forever)* very nice ... I like the video projection in combination with the music ... it reminds me of Kraftwerk ... Michael www.michaelpeters.de ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C7EECC.7CC47F60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> Google video = (Berlin-Marzahn)
>=20 http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?docId=3D74909757239= 97994565&hl=3Den
> *used loopers: Electrix Repeater / Lexicon Jamman=20 (forever)*

very nice = ... I like the=20 video projection in combination with the music ... it reminds me of = Kraftwerk=20 ...

Michael www.michaelpeters.de

------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C7EECC.7CC47F60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 07:09:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B986E3BF18; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 07:09:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=jTCvk8dTTBk5zTHkbxDFZJjs3pg1djuwceBwVInLesK9ZPg/Vrr0SVEkDiFCsYVk+C7MdvOK1xlQB7RpHqKSG9OxXWB+UxjBn8Kso0GeVrM4alI9OohwXF4q0MmWvVrTHcdShEs9zfoFxrc6dl7A1tDjWosuhvQu54SpLysgy/s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ayqfBLs85KG0kq3DE9SBkgB0YS8xVl+ZWryup9+BHr5JsFgpOkmbA0U0q2TWR1rcsbjyAUq2u5NI2VkxGkMIP+GcO6GwTiOm4qXRH+xVxDimGlm6Ki5H/QrBS6W8j0PSyuhfoUNmHK43070HbZs/jii/B3ubxS1MDRDfs6Lzn5k= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <090320072240.14039.46DC8D6B00059F61000036D72212020784020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> References: <090320072240.14039.46DC8D6B00059F61000036D72212020784020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <85D634A7-A6E9-411C-8E1D-6B3270635D88@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: linking computers together (Re: Alternative to a laptop?) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 09:09:27 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 07:09:32 +0000 (UTC) On 4 sep 2007, at 00.40, midifriedchicken@comcast.net wrote: > Isnt there a way to link 2 computers together to utilize the cpu of > both? I seem to remember when the G5's first came out, the > University of Wherever linked like 100 G5s to create a > supercomputer. I also think Macworld did an article on linking to > laptops. If possible, that would fix a lot of issues. You culd use > a Powerbook and have a Mini Mac as added CPU power. I think you > have to use an ethernet connection, but isnt this possible? > > MFC Yes, it's possible. However, since audio processing is timing critical the particular application must support it. One example is the DAW application Logic where you can simply chain as many Macs as you have around into a "node system". One is the master, where you process audio in Logic Pro and all others run the Logic Node application. On every track in Logic you can chose to activate "node support" to let the system decide if eventually distribute some CPU demanding parts to some of the node computers. Of course something like this is not possible with a real-time live input. In Logic it works because it's an application for producing recorded music and every piece of audio is already recorded to an audio file or programmed as MIDI or automation data. So the "master Logic" knows what will come up in next second and can plan the multiple CPU utilization and distribution of work as a "look ahead" process. Another system is OSC. As far as I know OSC doesn't distribute CPU tasks but rather synchronizes computers. I have not used OSC yet myself, only read about it in the Bidule documentation. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 07:17:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B16983BF36; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 07:17:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=nLIoRcfBG5iS0uGKBl0yswRj3DCUPsa6KO2LFoLuQSRFAAtXoeubFfonNvRBqV0jCcf0ulrgBm1MedQlHgiabQ9ri1Nj5M7XyHWoyzMkS6YHdXytwXRaFEypx3z6JDUjb0kpqzj6I/k2ZXFWRJH1mHEtVeZ20+Ja1LPdVd5P4gw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Yc01+NPS+bDnlBUpuFPG3dFEJS7nsXUOl8I6fRq+FFSM1gZxGGlTB9/GRbcvqwqjYnC1nUARcZ4hY3RpXHaNIaYthpiTlqjzG/x1Ea7PiJfG7WSBMfLwtKYeyK+FxZgJolW8bSL+uwXO6qVjkZdffPDolsUGh8FutDDkBOR0bF8= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <002d01c7eebb$b93baf60$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <002d01c7eebb$b93baf60$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Scenic Panner @ Ars Electronica 09.09.07 Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 09:17:43 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 07:17:49 +0000 (UTC) On 4 sep 2007, at 08.20, Michael Peters wrote: > > Google video (Berlin-Marzahn) > > http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf? > docId=7490975723997994565&hl=en > > *used loopers: Electrix Repeater / Lexicon Jamman (forever)* > > very nice ... I like the video projection in combination with the > music ... it reminds me of Kraftwerk ... Yes, but what IS it? Wonderful stuff. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 07:17:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CC2F3BF4B; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 07:17:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=lphaEgcUx1TbMx4h4McONBmcPnZDFEa/vDAvi4HxKZRMribDNK9pHy78YdcNcOQBC+21CCAmZNuDofH/dgEnAkRa6fWuwhbrtO37vmqZv5Ust+WxIkVjtVnYkaw9mSUDIg02dLdKMLUXredFR4tlFFwbsBJqaXMCW1SQ1r5hPUM= ; X-YMail-OSG: _fERM5EVM1nh.IUqQzOOoaJJVrSZ5uPhX0Aau9Ec6t2sKm9S6kJPnL3.jMEQiqQ6rgE1W_yY36Ier4EPE_EbGeS15fKREmyzoqVLkUVJ4HTb8cbi Message-ID: <006e01c7eec3$b306f700$6402a8c0@PC576340162804> From: "Ben" To: Subject: Midi looping: Yamaha launches the tenori-on in UK today Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 09:17:48 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006B_01C7EED4.762E1F00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 07:17:52 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C7EED4.762E1F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Yamaha launches today the tenori-on on the UK market (trial market). http://www.global.yamaha.com/tenori-on/index.html I think this can be seen as a "live looping tool" even if it does not = follow the classic "guitar into pedal model" so common on this list. I hope it can be bought from other countries too otherwise a small trip = to London should be planned ;-) Ben ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C7EED4.762E1F00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,
 
Yamaha launches today the tenori-on on = the UK=20 market (trial market).
http://www.glo= bal.yamaha.com/tenori-on/index.html
 
I think this can be seen as a "live = looping tool"=20 even if it does not follow the classic "guitar into pedal model" so = common=20 on this list.
I hope it can be bought from other = countries too=20 otherwise a small trip to London should be planned ;-)
 
Ben
------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C7EED4.762E1F00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 08:41:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 751DB3BF2A; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:41:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:41:22 +0800 From: Randolf Arriola Subject: Re: keeley electronics DL4 Mod- noisy! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <078301c7eecf$66c2ec80$6601a8c0@embryo> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <563821.4898.qm@web38612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:41:51 +0000 (UTC) Luis, you still haven't resolved your DL4 problem? Mine's self modded and comparing to my friends' Keeleys yes we both have an improved difference when compared with a stock DL4. What's the diff between mine and a Keeley? Well, Keeley's is a more subtle improvement which is pretty good already. Mine is tweaked just a notch brighter and louder...for my own taste but can be adjusted for individuals' taste. I may want to put a trimpot for easier adjustments but later. Randolf Arriola (aka the embryo) http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/theembryo.htm http://www.myspace.com/the_embryo ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.A. Angulo" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 5:36 AM Subject: Re: keeley electronics DL4 Mod- noisy! > Hey Randolf, > did you notice a big difference after the > mod?unfortunately i havent been able to try mine! > cheers > Luis > > >> I've also modded my own DL4 to resolve the slight >> volume drop and darkening >> effects of the bypassed tone. >> >> Good Luck. >> >> Randolf Arriola (aka the embryo) >> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/theembryo.htm >> http://www.myspace.com/the_embryo >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Doug Wellington" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 4:43 AM >> Subject: Re: keeley electronics DL4 Mod- noisy! >> >> >> >> i just had my DL4 modded by keely electronics and >> had >> >> a chance to try it today,unfortunately there is >> >> soemthing wrong with it its very noisy but when i >> >> wiggle and rock the cable from the output jacks >> it >> >> goes away anybody know what that might be or how >> i can >> >> try to fix it myself? >> > >> > OK, silly question maybe, but did you try a >> different cable? >> > >> > Doug >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, > news, photos & more. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 09:44:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E40C3BF33; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 09:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Looping on Revoxes Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 11:44:37 +0200 Message-ID: <004001c7eed8$35bfd720$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0041_01C7EEE8.F948A720" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acfu2DUbpGYn7Mt0SxKGlxwBUR/aKQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 09:44:42 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C7EEE8.F948A720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit on this Fripp diary page: http://www.dgmlive.com/diaries.htm?artist=&show=&member=3&entry=7559 a photo of Eno's how-to-loop-with-Revoxes diagram drawn for Fripp -m ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C7EEE8.F948A720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

on this Fripp diary = page:
http://www.dgmlive.com/diaries.htm?artist=3D&show=3D&= ;member=3D3&entry=3D7559
a photo of Eno's how-to-loop-with-Revoxes diagram drawn for = Fripp

-m =

------=_NextPart_000_0041_01C7EEE8.F948A720-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 10:52:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05FA23BF34; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:52:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=TCUXluJjsfv4t+OMynW1pVbKgD6sVV0XpXybNOBzUHTkyKKZvWtAbU4ZyV4P698/R/zMCBb8HmbNYbHVkp4085twFQ+a7IoRnB2My3+M/4kd6EFkE0AU9pNNoYXKtV62vjl1vPaGevHk88iiofUeq2RzSSHnGJoU5UR0Y7NyR/o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=XvLjAV6mPrlDuXoKpT6WqCpjhrB9WvZdiGbJtgj97rPGreBjuFO+d3OexNBra5XWJ6S9tuY0tsAxtK705uPNaWg7v2WfbhIxYsgz26UsMwwh1ndR7KyzS8oNPQNha9lxqxTpEEnICZe+Mh3FDwgSZH5hgUDXGRiu5aNzXWB40Z4= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:52:18 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping on Revoxes In-Reply-To: <004001c7eed8$35bfd720$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12981_9124606.1188903138942" References: <004001c7eed8$35bfd720$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:52:22 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_12981_9124606.1188903138942 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Interesting & curious. Is it possible to enlarge the pictures?. It's difficult to figure out ... 2007/9/4, Michael Peters : > > on this Fripp diary page: > http://www.dgmlive.com/diaries.htm?artist=&show=&member=3&entry=7559 > a photo of Eno's how-to-loop-with-Revoxes diagram drawn for Fripp > > -m > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_12981_9124606.1188903138942 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Interesting & curious. Is it possible to enlarge the pictures?. It's difficult to figure out ...

2007/9/4, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de>:

on this Fripp diary page:
 http://www.dgmlive.com/diaries.htm?artist=&show=&member=3&entry=7559
a photo of Eno's how-to-loop-with-Revoxes diagram drawn for Fripp

-m




--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_12981_9124606.1188903138942-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 12:21:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52C353BF34; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:21:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: CT on myspace Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:20:55 +0200 Message-ID: <005701c7eeee$0b76ca30$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acfu6JueNcchgxETTUqJmwdo6ff8aQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: <9QCYED.A.hoB.s2U3GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:21:01 +0000 (UTC) with so many musicians and bands having a myspace page (often in addition to their regular website), it occurred to me this morning that the CT Collective deserves a myspace page too. So I created one. http://www.myspace.com/ctcollective The page contains four songs that I chose from the CT repertoire (which currently consists of 448 tracks). The songs will be replaced by other songs at irregular intervals. If you are on myspace, please send friend requests to the CT myspace page! Michael www.michaelpeters.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 12:32:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D60D3BF47; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:32:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=mKe/dph/MvlS4QHWV3TN5osZdBTnexArgwpsSIbxuT6tLzhbMEzu8gOqkXc0WPS7K4M8TYFOC1aSjWk9kzNLzlcDY/qnTwhcAPnJrofd944eVtPfstU95mlk0dEpGVBhChCtAALxuv6k/eyEHSV2aJL+eVDBlpRmB4n5sPKSn+k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=gR3nso+MTvD4P6/f7XURsUfg+iTZCYXJSbw0ArJdMOvpM3KgALnYdqYZCHa3jwTCzbBtNYj1vL2CgQZ2FbRg4+uLk4oaYwqoh/YEqnjVzHAhlZIWRSljfThu128hSCWD9VOEiTu2wJXD14O6ZNv1fnhxAGhpARDCh7a0LgZPUbU= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:32:39 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: CT on myspace In-Reply-To: <005701c7eeee$0b76ca30$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13845_23283414.1188909159145" References: <005701c7eeee$0b76ca30$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:32:42 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_13845_23283414.1188909159145 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thx Papi ! How nobody else thought about this before? 3 hoorraaas for Michel !!! Raul. 2007/9/4, Michael Peters : > > with so many musicians and bands having a myspace page (often in addition > to > their regular website), it occurred to me this morning that the CT > Collective deserves a myspace page too. So I created one. > > > http://www.myspace.com/ctcollective > > The page contains four songs that I chose from the CT repertoire (which > currently consists of 448 tracks). The songs will be replaced by other > songs > at irregular intervals. > > If you are on myspace, please send friend requests to the CT myspace page! > > > Michael www.michaelpeters.de > > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_13845_23283414.1188909159145 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thx Papi ! How nobody else thought about this before?
3 hoorraaas for Michel !!!

Raul.

2007/9/4, Michael Peters <mp@mpeters.de>:
with so many musicians and bands having a myspace page (often in addition to
their regular website), it occurred to me this morning that the CT
Collective deserves a myspace page too. So I created one.


http://www.myspace.com/ctcollective

The page contains four songs that I chose from the CT repertoire (which
currently consists of 448 tracks). The songs will be replaced by other songs
at irregular intervals.

If you are on myspace, please send friend requests to the CT myspace page!


Michael www.michaelpeters.de





--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra ------=_Part_13845_23283414.1188909159145-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 12:34:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DFDAC3BF4A; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:34:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=heBBnogQNWi8trL9K2QUNZY7yDyHJs6/jnxS4lmyswaR1ryuCadBN3FHfqZTTOQSozLGe6wUHhc7alJWXiIUorRMkkToXdnQqq3/lZKQR4jAs5PIjPepQeCOjwUBwPPESaXFJKpEb4QF3947hXL6Np+c1Js7ZKhyuNWmfeA/Tlc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=FPqBPidRvcDUnrxuf90vpXu9DzCJOpZ5Z91GkQQ71GjyBMfRhaRwkgV9VIzY/tDCxxhl0L5qf1Q2yY0OGgLmP/0SERyWEAay0+BlwO/n5TRCBOSs79Cfplt0dS3gIG4ZMwdhP5R8bqzaxHVaHUol7i+PkW/NwQZ3RVreB0uw6WY= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:34:34 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: CT on myspace In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13861_16642985.1188909274135" References: <005701c7eeee$0b76ca30$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:34:36 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_13861_16642985.1188909274135 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ... wanna type "Michael" of course. Sorry! Emotive moment here while watching the page.. Raul. ------=_Part_13861_16642985.1188909274135 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ... wanna type "Michael" of course. Sorry!
Emotive moment here while watching the page..

Raul.
------=_Part_13861_16642985.1188909274135-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 14:53:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B35A3BEEA; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:53:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 587123786 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C7EF03.629E5309" Subject: RE: Looping on Revoxes (a treatise) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:53:41 +0100 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7204F8BCB5@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Looping on Revoxes (a treatise) Thread-Index: AcfvA2JTG0ERnX4lSX2JOomSDviYMw== References: From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2007 14:53:42.0613 (UTC) FILETIME=[62DFE850:01C7EF03] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:53:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7EF03.629E5309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.dgmlive.com/diaries.htm?artist=3D&show=3D&member=3D3&entry=3D7= 559 =20 =20 it's "just" two tape decks side-by-side.=20 =20 prepare for some spoddiness- =20 the important stuff isn't really mentioned in these eno-instructions, like=20 how to disable the unused reel motors....=20 how to synchronise the two capstan motors, or disable one of them, so the tape doesn't go slack or break.....=20 the exact angle the two machines have to be parked at so that the tape isn't fouling any of the deck.....=20 how to defeat any tape-motion sensors that might not be moving in this configuration....=20 how to wire up the remote so that one deck starts in play at the same time as the other starts in record..... =20 THEN- do you use the decks in mono or stereo? do you also use the play head on the record deck to give you a short echo aswell as the eno delay? do you use an external mixer (more flexible) or the revox's own input mixing (more compact)? =20 the one with the red background looks as if it concerns itself with the level control & mixing side of things, & the one with the yellowish background MAY be to do with which deck starts first & what happens to the free tape between the decks. the writing isn't clear enough to read, but I don't think there's enough of it to cover things like modifying the reel-motor switches so that only the unused spool carrier is disabled (& not both as would usually be the case), or wiring both machines' remore sockets to a single stop/start switch...... what I can see is instruction relating to which audio level control does what in this context.... =20 on the red diagram, you can make out where the guitar is supposed to be plugged in, how audio gets from the second deck back to the first, & which meter the user should be watching. you can see that the record controls are not even shown on the right-hand deck, because they are not relevant. =20 the yellow diagram appears to be a more generic (non-A77-specific) version of the same thing, though there is some notation referring to the slack tape between the decks. I wish I could read what our renaissance-man-parfumier had to say by way of warning-=20 =20 "watch out for this going slack or snapping!"=20 =20 would be my guess..... &-=20 =20 "if it snaps, try swapping the decks over.... then it will go slack instead- somewhat less disastrous!" =20 they are certainly revox A77s in the red diagram, though I've seen a picture of fripp at work with two G36s, an older revox that uses valves (tubes). interestingly, the G36s are shown on their ends, while the decks in these diagrams appear to be normally oriented.=20 =20 yes, I have done this a few times myself, & with many different sorts of deck. :-) =20 =20 I have in the past pondered the benefits of fine-tuning the capstan speeds of the decks to avoid the aforementioned slack tape problem, of cross-connecting the capstan servo oscillators to force the decks to run at the same speed (this solves nothing if the diameters of the capstans differ even by a tenth of a thousandth of an inch), of disabling the pinch-roller on the record deck so that the play deck is doing all the pulling, of mounting a new head & modifying the tape path of a single deck to perform this technique..... =20 I've used two uher portables to do this, too- got a picture somewhere......=20 =20 why? when there are so many digital delays & samplers available, why bother?=20 =20 well..... when I first tried this, back in 1979 with an old ferrograph & an EMI L4 portable, it was hit & miss. I managed to get the capstan speeds matched reasonably well, & had the two very-different machines suitably positioned so that the tape flowed properly. what made it worth-while was the quality of the recordings, & the way the folded-back audio varied according to how worn the tape was at any given point. it was more..... tidal.... than any solid-state equivalent I've ever heard. I still keep a number of A77s & can play with this configuration whenever I want, luckily. =20 anyone else got any experience of using the two-deck setup? anyone know what "skysaw" was? I can't make out anything on that picture, & it seems to have been quite important to RF, since he goes to the trouble of crediting BE with it's invention on the sleeve of "exposure"..... =20 duncan. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7EF03.629E5309 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
http://www.dgmlive.com/diaries.htm?artist=3D&show=3D&mem= ber=3D3&entry=3D7559
 
it's "just" two tape = decks=20 side-by-side.
 
prepare for some=20 spoddiness-
 
the important stuff = isn't really=20 mentioned in these eno-instructions, like
how to disable the = unused reel=20 motors....
how to synchronise the = two capstan=20 motors, or disable one of them, so the tape doesn't go slack or = break.....=20
the exact angle the two = machines=20 have to be parked at so that the tape isn't fouling any of the deck..... =
how to defeat any = tape-motion=20 sensors that might not be moving in this configuration.... =
how to wire up the = remote so that=20 one deck starts in play at the same time as the other starts in=20 record.....
 
THEN- do you use the = decks in mono=20 or stereo? do you also use the play head on the record deck to give you = a short=20 echo aswell as the eno delay?
do you use an external = mixer (more=20 flexible) or the revox's own input mixing (more = compact)?
 
the one with the red = background=20 looks as if it concerns itself with the level control & mixing side = of=20 things, & the one with the yellowish background MAY be to do with = which deck=20 starts first & what happens to the free tape between the decks. the = writing=20 isn't clear enough to read, but I don't think there's enough of it to = cover=20 things like modifying the reel-motor switches so that only the unused = spool=20 carrier is disabled (& not both as would usually be the case), or = wiring=20 both machines' remore sockets to a single stop/start switch...... what I = can see=20 is instruction relating to which audio level control does what in this=20 context....
 
on the red diagram, you = can make=20 out where the guitar is supposed to be plugged in, how audio gets from = the=20 second deck back to the first, & which meter the user should be = watching.=20 you can see that the record controls are not even shown on the = right-hand deck,=20 because they are not relevant.
 
the yellow diagram = appears to be a=20 more generic (non-A77-specific) version of the same thing, though there = is some=20 notation referring to the slack tape between the decks. I wish I could = read what=20 our renaissance-man-parfumier had to say by way of warning- =
 
"watch out for this = going slack or=20 snapping!"
 
would be my guess.....=20 &- 
 
"if it snaps, try = swapping the=20 decks over.... then it will go slack instead- somewhat less=20 disastrous!"
 
they are certainly = revox A77s=20 in the red diagram, though I've seen a picture of fripp at work with two = G36s,=20 an older revox that uses valves (tubes). interestingly, the G36s are = shown on=20 their ends, while the decks in these diagrams appear to be normally = oriented. 
 
yes, I have done this a = few times=20 myself, & with many different sorts of deck. :-)  =
 
I have in the past = pondered the=20 benefits of fine-tuning the capstan speeds of the decks to avoid the=20 aforementioned slack tape problem, of cross-connecting the capstan servo = oscillators to force the decks to run at the same speed (this solves = nothing if=20 the diameters of the capstans differ even by a tenth of a thousandth of = an=20 inch), of disabling the pinch-roller on the record deck so that the play = deck is=20 doing all the pulling, of mounting a new head & modifying the tape = path of a=20 single deck to perform this technique.....
 
I've used two uher = portables to do=20 this, too- got a picture somewhere......
 
why? when there are so = many digital=20 delays & samplers available, why bother?
 
well..... when I first = tried this,=20 back in 1979 with an old ferrograph & an EMI L4 portable, it was hit = &=20 miss. I managed to get the capstan speeds matched reasonably well, & = had the=20 two very-different machines suitably positioned so that the tape flowed=20 properly. what made it worth-while was the quality of the recordings, = & the=20 way the folded-back audio varied according to how worn the tape was at = any given=20 point. it was more..... tidal.... than any solid-state = equivalent I've=20 ever heard. I still keep a number of A77s & can play with this = configuration=20 whenever I want, luckily.
 
anyone else got any = experience of=20 using the two-deck setup? anyone know what "skysaw" was? I can't make = out=20 anything on that picture, & it seems to have been quite important to = RF,=20 since he goes to the trouble of crediting BE with it's invention on the = sleeve=20 of "exposure".....
 
duncan.
------_=_NextPart_001_01C7EF03.629E5309-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 14:55:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBB763BF43; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:55:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Scenic Panner @ Ars Electronica 09.09.07 Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:55:20 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <002301c7ef03$9dd7e2a0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 thread-index: Acfubf0w+uPb13tzQgyiXILXqRWHbQAlWdgA X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD10+29g0cuAS125Nk= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:55:01 +0000 (UTC) > Think a single midi note mapped to a single object [ f.i. a > skyscaper, which gets inserted on the left of the wide screen Now this sounds interesting...although the majority here don't play MIDI notes in the classical way (i.e. to control a sound generator), it would make sense perfectly to control this kind of video with Per's crazy foot movements when he plays Mobius...or even Mobius' scripts could generate these MIDI triggers! Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 15:21:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A9C83BF53; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:21:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=mYI4SPQAx39PwRIV5JBaYcjf3X6QeAU17G7pXSaHAMexP+pP+2FabtdBVVKV1TQTirokwLvOqEuMHjWS6OwBgUUFtXXjWdJ/Z3CL27LFkpc9JrVnQcnY6yxwdHTuRCAJUAgHxbjIwwKp3eqNJ5Zx5FzrXRX39dd2IBxE7fX7VfY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ILZZFQSrJoObQVpwI3qjrJXRZYzMiP4qZw22zSReeDd/NET1yHWxtgaORX5t1iYXSwWUyaUoHRiovXI83wp1z2XCwqLKOvr0Z3ExaPqg/RL230X7iGpyF9/MfL/bhjhzp1iKPFgJ1UxG9j9dHLq0stmL8rJae3X1c3dBwRt9YYo= Message-ID: <3fa302e30709040821v1af0dfa6re8e6423c06f572ad@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 08:21:02 -0700 From: Mikkoz To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: POLL about OffTopic Posts at Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <31576.83000.qm@web32702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_31210_3569766.1188919262645" References: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7204F8B75D@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> <31576.83000.qm@web32702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:21:12 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_31210_3569766.1188919262645 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2 ------=_Part_31210_3569766.1188919262645 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2 ------=_Part_31210_3569766.1188919262645-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 15:30:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 019053BF3A; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:30:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Midi looping: Yamaha launches the tenori-on in UK today Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:30:46 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <002701c7ef08$903f8fd0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <006e01c7eec3$b306f700$6402a8c0@PC576340162804> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 thread-index: Acfuw7U8KOXmGcUST/uY0Gf0o07eWAARIKLg X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD10+29g0cuAS125Nk= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:30:24 +0000 (UTC) So this is?... ...a Kaoss Pad combined with a Roland TB-303, but without sampling and effects? > Yamaha launches today the tenori-on on the UK market (trial market). > http://www.global.yamaha.com/tenori-on/index.html From hoai-huong.doan@webstat.net Tue Sep 4 15:32:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 607 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:32:58 UTC Received: from host-207-248-239-10.block.alestra.net.mx (host-207-248-239-10.block.alestra.net.mx [207.248.239.10]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 171643BF37 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:32:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from tbwlajdi by host-207-248-239-10.block.alestra.net.mx with local (Exim 4.64 (FreeBSD)) id 1ITk0H-000PPB-2F for looparc@loopers-delight.com; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:31:31 -0500 To: Subject: A Special Card From: Content-Type: text/html;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Message-Id: <1ITk0H-000PPB-2F@host-207-248-239-10.block.alestra.net.mx> Sender: User tbwlajdi Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:31:31 -0500 Our Greeting System has a Labor Day card for you, go here to pick it up: http://yahoo.com/07cards/greet1?4bwkpbgeituj1wcuu From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 15:51:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 185FF3BF43; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=oVS1rWizEEAITj0mCAilE9jNGYc17emtsoxPCa2648pkkTyJAs2ztg9gYihjabzzGJnwUi7Khar3Ydu0QWa1SpJm/2kNN6+rPcAyADIyU0U70jF7OlH18m/Al4tLB3sCRkPbi4VqkXsLKzXaUWD6TsuV337t2b5QsP/IP8dG7A0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nAz8Z4HjjduefM5pS/oK6tMUAC67/g10NRZnV1dkUs7peFkZ57x52lMRMpvlZ/LueQkVcAs021z2jGVbahQ5SRQen8WS8C+3HFgadG2dHlJdq/pNHuARXzSKOHAVn6/iythz+1TwPXO1BbfA87lnV5jfFbetxV9zH8+tLhrWaVU= Message-ID: <55e79c0d0709040851v24b22badw35011af6a51b93c6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:51:37 -0500 From: "Dan Katayama" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Midi looping: Yamaha launches the tenori-on in UK today In-Reply-To: <002701c7ef08$903f8fd0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_29090_8251091.1188921097749" References: <006e01c7eec3$b306f700$6402a8c0@PC576340162804> <002701c7ef08$903f8fd0$1001a8c0@succubus> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:51:39 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_29090_8251091.1188921097749 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline how much is it....i WANT one 2007/9/4, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill : > > So this is?... > ...a Kaoss Pad combined with a Roland TB-303, but without sampling and > effects? > > > Yamaha launches today the tenori-on on the UK market (trial > market). > > http://www.global.yamaha.com/tenori-on/index.html > > -- kosukeweb http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 ------=_Part_29090_8251091.1188921097749 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline how much is it....i WANT one

2007/9/4, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill <rs@moinlabs.de>:
So this is?...
...a Kaoss Pad combined with a Roland TB-303, but without sampling and
effects?

>       Yamaha launches today the tenori-on on the UK market (trial market).
>       http://www.global.yamaha.com/tenori-on/index.html




--
kosukeweb
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 16:39:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE5E53BF48; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:39:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Midi looping: Yamaha launches the tenori-on in UK today Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:39:39 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000901c7ef12$2ff602d0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <55e79c0d0709040851v24b22badw35011af6a51b93c6@mail.gmail.com> Thread-Index: AcfvC3uP5V/K2CbtS1OUqvxkK/x5kAABJbyA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OIRGcll5DQ== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:39:16 +0000 (UTC) Googling around, I found the following three prices: 500 Pound, 599 Pound, 1000$... > how much is it....i WANT one From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 16:46:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69A593BF21; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 12:46:24 -0400 From: Warren Sirota Subject: RE: Midi looping: Yamaha launches the tenori-on in UK today In-reply-to: <55e79c0d0709040851v24b22badw35011af6a51b93c6@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <004801c7ef13$21294b80$0202a8c0@macbookxp> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thread-index: AcfvC3r2AQcrJzMBQfq5AJshZxXrIgABpf0g References: <006e01c7eec3$b306f700$6402a8c0@PC576340162804> <002701c7ef08$903f8fd0$1001a8c0@succubus> <55e79c0d0709040851v24b22badw35011af6a51b93c6@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Seems like a cool tool. My first reaction was, "oh, this would be so easy to do in sw", but it's so easy for me to decide on a sw project that will take 3 years to complete instead of spending a couple of hundred bucks... I mean, it looks like someone took a typical rhythm grid thingie that we've seen dozens of times in sw and said, "y'know what? If you made this self-contained in a box with sounds, it'd be a cool toy", and then refined the concept considerably. It looks like they threw in a lot of fun stuff. Plus, something you don't see in sw because the hw generally isn't there for it - a multitouch interface. If the tap-tempo and external sync facilities are excellent, this might be a fun little self-contained gizmo to bring to jams. It also seems like it'd be great for churning out dance music forever (as if I know dance music....) Warren From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 17:23:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A97F83BF35; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:23:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.3.060209 Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:23:31 +0100 Subject: Re: Midi looping: Yamaha launches the tenori-on in UK today From: Greg Mills To: Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Midi looping: Yamaha launches the tenori-on in UK today Thread-Index: AcfvGFBejuJ4ylsLEdyZ1QAKlaVu8g== In-Reply-To: <006e01c7eec3$b306f700$6402a8c0@PC576340162804> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3271775014_13952145" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:23:39 +0000 (UTC) > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3271775014_13952145 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable It=B9s got MIDI out for external device control, I=B9m wondering what kind of fun you could have using it to control other devices. I notice it has sampling, but there=B9s a note about using some voice editing software, so maybe it isn=B9t a real-time looper? I like the way you can determine the start and stop points of a loop with two fingers, cool! The UK dealer page lists several record shops, but none of the usual music tech dealers, strange move. Greg >=20 --B_3271775014_13952145 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Midi looping: Yamaha launches the tenori-on in UK today It= 217;s got MIDI out for external device control, I’m wondering what kin= d of fun you could have using it to control other devices. I notice it has s= ampling, but there’s a note about using some voice editing software, s= o maybe it isn’t a real-time looper? I like the way you can determine = the start and stop points of a loop with two fingers, cool!

The UK dealer page lists several record shops, but none of the usual music = tech dealers, strange move.

Greg


 --B_3271775014_13952145-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 17:54:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 173B33BF59; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:54:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Qdh9flu0en2DYsJ0u+zJ7LmT8fMelnlDZMvxu558+Kirt0U/2b0fMIzKqpUgEYhr9d/ObDDJy3ro3L6je4OJuUu63pLL9kVvujoOcDkvBSjudduaWmJc64DTyDMpXw1qOFr9RoU744W5r6frxIKI5X5PiIra5/1KgpTyI6UJ1fc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=pgu53OFDRsTkg9jYU2UI4nmRRYAXdpXwb8t5oGK5uEiDZ31ZbEgtRKbhcNAusPddyCch0khSC4e1EkBa9ZiuR+DN+2Wxqh0UD0QiVBiJGpUubZhirJ6kKJyP3yX+BE8IAYZAhQV5zFQkqQIl1jY3VnR4vbDApYbHi07+20SD+Bc= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <55e79c0d0709040851v24b22badw35011af6a51b93c6@mail.gmail.com> References: <006e01c7eec3$b306f700$6402a8c0@PC576340162804> <002701c7ef08$903f8fd0$1001a8c0@succubus> <55e79c0d0709040851v24b22badw35011af6a51b93c6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: Midi looping: Yamaha launches the tenori-on in UK today Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 10:54:36 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:54:48 +0000 (UTC) On Sep 4, 2007, at 8:51 AM, Dan Katayama wrote: > how much is it....i WANT one The blog CDM has several entries and archive posts tracking it: http://createdigitalmusic.com/ regards BobC http://tinyurl.com/yt8f8j http://www.youtube.com/tynego From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 18:10:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 079C33BF6B; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:10:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=BhvV+OqZZxvc/xAyr8By3B6FW/jnAx14fEs0wQ1h6IqSgjrohJO/ViUXUp45o8cgD03TLwrxbOzUQLoeN0iA2uxTIxgrUYrdGPpJ9+6PWkOafzdlOzOR0qn51WhtPMPcSa54tpf92AZvLDSWBvslZ8it0wF0rwmZdb6Bye/TyAc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=m7GVkBy00ZkSn8tQcn9tJkBcxBCNEW0Chs0jwyJXyHAEC2Y9jlH2LHX6oHjSA1QVt62gqyvYoxbNy4UfyahXOLeGcj2C6tvUjiZLVHSkpgND49V5/XEYGQbrB3tQ5ZGUSPJFUk5LQ60+tLGiF1g0x1lWsLvxhEbqa5m/uWf19+s= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 11:10:23 -0700 From: "Neil Goldstein" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Midi looping: Yamaha launches the tenori-on in UK today In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_28316_4113078.1188929423357" References: <006e01c7eec3$b306f700$6402a8c0@PC576340162804> <002701c7ef08$903f8fd0$1001a8c0@succubus> <55e79c0d0709040851v24b22badw35011af6a51b93c6@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 18:10:26 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_28316_4113078.1188929423357 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=5236 ------=_Part_28316_4113078.1188929423357 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=5236

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 19:04:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FE5A3BF57; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:04:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <009001c7ef26$8a23dbb0$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> Reply-To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <002701c7ef08$903f8fd0$1001a8c0@succubus> Subject: Re: Midi looping: Yamaha launches the tenori-on in UK today Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:05:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/owgo95RfyvLAPHi1/QAMSyowi29T+mrjMaWB PSHzn4P8dvTaWSvdxw7MajYbRqGhiDRO48hFdWzlfsILoHmsbI 2l0BDXkC/wEBFf3EyXG7Ei/CpVY00mV Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:04:58 +0000 (UTC) you made me laugh! well, it certainly blinks very fashy... tilmann "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" > So this is?... > ...a Kaoss Pad combined with a Roland TB-303, but without sampling and > effects? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 19:21:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 053533BF57; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:21:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=GRcMFuKWZNkNbU4M5bNU9s5rJ+wX/yEr+sJ0oKsxo26fyusYEx5fpkabXdtRhZXKR0zTE+lawtImEIvQreA0Bk8lvz8tz/ht5k+SFc3URI1Sg/RXhTNbHnZYeK9Rpie+YmPGN35YjBstOgH/6DeD/7n21QR5enKi4QX2HzN5riQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=kIJ6o+Mmn71Y84mY8m2C3KnR5Gh7HIAPIwU8BX1Jf9a5OEBR3D+xg/ZeRsBlpw9UCZQA64HJoKBWMmj06anF6pzn0L2syXEy38vf3SghUUIzhWAQ5VazUrVnwfX4bxXOK9fqurnCsnXsNwibUxONWyhs5t3mQFOteDylhUkZq3I= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <006e01c7eec3$b306f700$6402a8c0@PC576340162804> <002701c7ef08$903f8fd0$1001a8c0@succubus> <55e79c0d0709040851v24b22badw35011af6a51b93c6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0B63E44A-3A00-4734-9BA8-0E06EAFF0F8E@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Midi looping: Yamaha launches the tenori-on in UK today Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:21:51 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:21:58 +0000 (UTC) > http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=5236 Nice demo. Thanks for posting the link. This was the first Tenori-On demonstration I have seen that actually explains about Bounce Mode, Pitch Mode and Solo Mode - which is where this instrument starts to get interesting. It reminds me a bit about the software Numerology, but with less options. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 19:45:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4BFD43BF74; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:45:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000801c7ef2c$3e14d2a0$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> Reply-To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <006e01c7eec3$b306f700$6402a8c0@PC576340162804> <002701c7ef08$903f8fd0$1001a8c0@succubus> <55e79c0d0709040851v24b22badw35011af6a51b93c6@mail.gmail.com> <0B63E44A-3A00-4734-9BA8-0E06EAFF0F8E@gmail.com> Subject: tenori-on questions Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:46:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+uz0s3twKXU1ZwTGbW23bpOfmL1pfPAT4ShTz ANXGRx+nYiSxf4sajpN9kSfhuenyI7GSCbKCtn0uKAnmSPLk7C SnqggZz74gAi+kFx3z9ahPGmPrC/cEL Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:45:48 +0000 (UTC) some questions about the tenori-on after seeing the litle movie, i'm just curious: is it possible to use a grid that's smaller than 16 per 16 bits, so we could funk around in 5 or 3 or 7? what about a bigger grid than 16? what about velocity? or aftertouch? can you switch parts? ("shall we take it to the bridge? - yeah") can you save your creations? on the card? can you use the chromatic scale (or any other than major)? smooth loops - tilmann From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 20:34:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0A07A3BF6E; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:34:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7204F8BCB5@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Subject: RE: Looping on Revoxes (a treatise) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:34:50 +0200 Message-ID: <004f01c7ef33$0b6be760$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcfvMjB6l6strodZQ76Evb7/J3Q59gAAGUAQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7204F8BCB5@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Resent-Message-ID: <_OUvF.A.AaC.wFc3GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:34:57 +0000 (UTC) > anyone else got any experience of using the two-deck setup? yes, I used two Revoxes a lot in the early eighties, with no problem at all ... check out these recordings (not for the fainthearted) and images: http://www.michaelpeters.de/massdriversongs.htm > prepare for some spoddiness actually, I had none of the problems you mentioned. Everything worked well, you just had to use 2 identical Revoxes Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 20:44:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B032F3BF72; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:44:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.78.169] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070904123437.6464F3BF55@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: SF electronic music festival Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:44:03 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2007 20:44:08.0049 (UTC) FILETIME=[5702D610:01C7EF34] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:44:09 +0000 (UTC) SFEMF 8 September 5-9 Project Artaud Theater 450 Florida Street, San Francisco, CA 94110 The 2007 San Francisco Electronic Music Festival consists of five evenings of electrifying performances by internationally recognized composers and musicians in the electronic music field. This year’s impressive line-up features both respected pioneers and emerging artists whose work spans the sonic spectra - from ambient to rhythmic, from atonal to melodic. As the only San Francisco music festival dedicated solely to electronic music, the SFEMF brings together the varied practices of artists working with laptop generated sound, processed live acoustic instruments, amplified found objects, projected video, improvisation, and performance art. This year SFEMF is honored to present two renowned, New York-based, electronic music pioneers composers, Annea Lockwood and David Behrman– both of whom will be performing on Saturday evening, September 8th. Lockwood will be presenting the West Coast premiere of a work called "Jitterbug (2007) involving 6 channels of audio and three performers (herself, Behrman, and bay area percussionist William Winant.) She will also be presenting "Bow Falls", with 2-channel sound and video by Paul Ryan. Behrman will present "Long Throw" (2007) with the composer on stringed instruments & computer and William Winant on percussion. This is also a West Coast premiere. This year’s international participants include Canadian Musician and Sound artist Tim Hecker, who appears on Thursday’s concert, and two Mexican artists: Murcof (Nortek Collective), and the duo .pig, who will kicking off the 2007 festival on Wednesday, September 5th in a special evening sponsored by San Francisco’s NEXMAP– a new San Francisco non-profit organization dedicated to the production and appreciation of contemporary and experimental performing arts. And from Los Angeles, SFEMF presents Letiecia Castaneda and Univac. This year’s local artists include flutist/composer/”aspiring rock star” MaryClare Brzytwa, electro-cellist Zoe Keating, media artist Kadet Kuhne (collaborating with Mem1), award-winning laptop composer Lesser, renowned ballet & modern dance composer Les Stuck, and the inimitable Fred Frith, who will be presenting an SFEMF-commissioned collaboration with Patrice Scanlon. Schedule: Wednesday, September 5th, 2007 doors 8pm, show 8:30pm (sponsored by NexMap) Murcof .pig Thursday, September 6th, 2007 doors 8pm, show 8:30pm Tim Hecker univac MaryClare Brzytwa Friday, September 7th, 2007 (buy tickets) doors 8pm, show 8:30pm Lesser Les Stuck Zoe Keating Leticia Castaneda Saturday, September 8th, 2007 doors 8pm, show 8:30pm David Behrman & Annea Lockwood with William Winant (solos and in collaboration) Behrman and Lockwood will have an informal Q&A at 7pm. Sunday, September 9th, 2007 early start time: doors 7pm, show 7:30pm Fred Frith (with Patrice Scanlon) Kadet Kuhne (with Mem1) Nommo Ogo All nights: Sound installations by local artists. Tickets: $16 general, $12 Senior/Student $55 Festival pass, $45 Senior/Student Festival Pass --^------------------------------------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Test your celebrity IQ.  Play Red Carpet Reveal and earn great prizes! http://club.live.com/red_carpet_reveal.aspx?icid=redcarpet_hotmailtextlink2 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 20:51:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A87C33BF6C; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:51:17 -0400 From: Dan Ash Subject: Anybody see this? Eventide delay unit w/ loop mode To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <46DDC545.5030302@Verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 20:51:51 +0000 (UTC) Ths manual for this unit doesn't specify all the capabilities of the midi implementation, and it's vague on sync and exactly what can be controlled with .CC messages. But it appears to offer a 12-second loop (longer at reduced bit rate) and a midi-learn function. If the feedback rate is controllable with an external pedal I could be interested - a portable looper that can double as a delay... http://www.eventidestompboxes.com/ Dan Ash White Plains, NY From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 21:36:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27B323BF74; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:36:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <380-22007924213625362@M2W014.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: qua@oregon.com X-Originating-IP: 134.134.136.5 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "qua@oregon.com" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: tenori-on questions Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 17:36:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 21:36:41 +0000 (UTC) Any idea what it will cost=3F -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE =96 Free email based on Microsoft=AE Exchange technology - http://link=2Email2web=2Ecom/LIVE From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 22:32:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2175F3BF44; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=jJ44XXuNVhhtYwliClFy92LB/oGiDfwMK5lfl1h3HnLS5179Lej8JhWNkJUCDI0xyhOP0rH7P7L+ps5G4sBjTDnnC77tyn3rLJcKVMLtlrxnysiAT9tZG0kPRSPNY6xmkWwJFjdMAY0P/BuLSGOX33664iugvsd2Eqqxphqfp5M=; X-YMail-OSG: LTVcSWYVM1mu.VbeWjdCwdR3rwggjpQ_wWXNGUOZw25X3CLbf5BLGF1m3dMMzkKnsIX_GYcoN.2x_4sWAHoMPIqiC8Qe69YbS_QKYkQEbNingc0SNP0- Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:32:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: CT on myspace To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <005701c7eeee$0b76ca30$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <266017.65931.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:32:34 +0000 (UTC) Brilliant Michael grat work! Machst gut Luis --- Michael Peters wrote: > with so many musicians and bands having a myspace > page (often in addition to > their regular website), it occurred to me this > morning that the CT > Collective deserves a myspace page too. So I created > one. > > > http://www.myspace.com/ctcollective > > The page contains four songs that I chose from the > CT repertoire (which > currently consists of 448 tracks). The songs will be > replaced by other songs > at irregular intervals. > > If you are on myspace, please send friend requests > to the CT myspace page! > > > Michael www.michaelpeters.de > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 22:36:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7F733BF3C; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:36:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=B+O/b/KLyJNwIpunzprhVH6P5iesXCDVXs769ZNn9eM19KSj7mrbjdBiyatr3GRFzzxBbHuK6ITVacQzuGlcv2rHbptRHywwYRKzSoRqs0qgrJ8Se2dE3QvVQgwfCYoz3sxrUlPNrzuD9FFLN6vV/9A/YxQlTTXQrhZZL+cQp1Y=; X-YMail-OSG: i41np2YVM1kupSIre2UKvNQX259h2fcDdRYw8wndcdHAsM...iP1WYFgMQv0v.3lxQ-- Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:36:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: keeley electronics DL4 Mod- noisy! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <078301c7eecf$66c2ec80$6601a8c0@embryo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <92476.23803.qm@web38615.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:36:03 +0000 (UTC) just curious how complex is the DL4 to modify? 100.00dlls seem a bit steep but perhaps it it complicated,no? Luis Randolf Arriola wrote: > Luis, you still haven't resolved your DL4 problem? > > Mine's self modded and comparing to my friends' > Keeleys yes we both have an > improved difference when compared with a stock DL4. > What's the diff between > mine and a Keeley? Well, Keeley's is a more subtle > improvement which is > pretty good already. Mine is tweaked just a notch > brighter and louder...for > my own taste but can be adjusted for individuals' > taste. I may want to put a > trimpot for easier adjustments but later. > > Randolf Arriola (aka the embryo) > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/theembryo.htm > http://www.myspace.com/the_embryo > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "L.A. Angulo" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 5:36 AM > Subject: Re: keeley electronics DL4 Mod- noisy! > > > > Hey Randolf, > > did you notice a big difference after the > > mod?unfortunately i havent been able to try mine! > > cheers > > Luis > > > > > >> I've also modded my own DL4 to resolve the slight > >> volume drop and darkening > >> effects of the bypassed tone. > >> > >> Good Luck. > >> > >> Randolf Arriola (aka the embryo) > >> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/theembryo.htm > >> http://www.myspace.com/the_embryo > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Doug Wellington" > > >> To: > >> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 4:43 AM > >> Subject: Re: keeley electronics DL4 Mod- noisy! > >> > >> > >> >> i just had my DL4 modded by keely electronics > and > >> had > >> >> a chance to try it today,unfortunately there > is > >> >> soemthing wrong with it its very noisy but > when i > >> >> wiggle and rock the cable from the output > jacks > >> it > >> >> goes away anybody know what that might be or > how > >> i can > >> >> try to fix it myself? > >> > > >> > OK, silly question maybe, but did you try a > >> different cable? > >> > > >> > Doug > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the > Internet in your pocket: mail, > > news, photos & more. > > http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 23:17:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E4BE3BF37; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:17:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <380-22007924231741634@M2W021.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: qua@oregon.com X-Originating-IP: 134.134.136.5 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "qua@oregon.com" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com, Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:17:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: OT any Remote SL users? Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:17:45 +0000 (UTC) I'm interested in using the Novation RemoteSL as a midi control surface=2E= I'd like to talk with someone who is using it, and who feels they are making really good use of its capabilities=2E Please contact me offlist= thanks -Qua -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web=2Ecom =96 Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Micro= soft=AE Exchange - http://link=2Email2web=2Ecom/Personal/EnhancedEmail From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Sep 4 23:28:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 266863BF4F; Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:28:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=UiMNhfdGpim1Q75e+FBvcKKiUBYq06FY3ZoljWI1m96xnVvPPpXj2/sOBGwyqQQWGl/ZQoz+DRqfjW0P6EgfDAQRxVIY2QP8aD6wZ+wVRgG2Epx/h8E3eWBi5YBiMr+1I7N4RG/e+wHVnk2io3+HZFKEhPFFN2pYCvEZF3jso8o=; X-YMail-OSG: CYS3vWIVM1nX7HQZ5E.OL0FdcypbfNlq83WX4I.xcXo.kukx9Eg4Ktmx1nYcPWisI3iSGh98NVJgeBtjNiA5cMFsAOFRah6lcTE6kS.ZPDgn1EJcrgk- Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:28:34 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: RME Firewire 800 and Guitar Amp Sim To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <46D31461.1070208@servingpeace.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <124436.2793.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 23:28:37 +0000 (UTC) Kris, I am a bit late on this but ill tell you my opinion on the fw800,i own it since about a year.At first i was impressed with its sim but compared to my Koch twintone tube amp it sounds a bit harsh for my ears,ive used it though for funky compressed rhythm guitar tracks which works ok.Ive never used it live though. Nothing coming out of a guitar through a digital amp sim has really impressed me soundwise, i remember seeing Fripp live and he had a Digitech new preamp and a roland GP100 at the time and his sound was really cold to my ears,Adrian on the other had had a much warmer sound! Luis --- Sam Nilsson wrote: > Krispen Hartung wrote: > > Can anyone comment on the speaker emulation filter > and tube > > sim/limiter of the FW800? Someone on the Max/MSP > list commented that it > > was one of the best amp sims they've used. See > below. Is any other high > > end firewire audio interface offering ann amp sim? > > > > I am now focusing on how I can get the most > natural electric guitar/tube > > amp sound on my system, BEFORE going into the > laptop (so, no tube amp > > VSTs, etc). I need to do it with the audio > interface, or by adding a > > real tube amp or high end tube amp simulator > (hardware) > > Hi Krispen, Group, > > It has been some time since I have messed with the > speaker > emulator/limiter feature on the instrument input of > my FW800 but... > > When I originally got the unit I played with those > features with my > Strat and a few other guitars and found that for my > tastes it was just > an add-on/gimmick feature that did not improve the > sound. It probably > depends on what sound you are looking for, and it > would be worth trying > it yourself, but I don't expect to use that feature > when going direct > with my electric guitars. I much preferred the > instrument input with > those features turned off. > > Someday I would like to find a nice portable preamp > to drive my > otherwise clean/direct setup with, but for my > tastes, those features > were not in any way a decent substitute. Having said > that, I am sure > that someone loves those features and uses them > everyday. ;-) > > Peace, > - Sam > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 5 04:29:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6CCCB3BF51; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 04:29:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <46DDC545.5030302@Verizon.net> References: <46DDC545.5030302@Verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <99A1F493-E94D-4F8A-B2ED-14DF9CF87729@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Teddy Subject: Re: Anybody see this? Eventide delay unit w/ loop mode Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 00:29:46 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 04:29:49 +0000 (UTC) I have one.... it is pretty bad ass, I must say. It has all the things the DL4 has but x2. 2 delay lines available simultaneously always. one thing it does that is cool is that after you record a loop, if you use midi to change to another looping patch, the loop doesn't stop and the new patch's settings get applied to the loop. You can alter the pitch of your loop with an expression pedal. You can save Different tuning schemes in consecutive patches and step between intervals. it goes up 2 octaves and down 2 octaves. I don't know another looper that does that so freely. The only trouble I'm having with it as a DL4 replacement is that the feedback doesn't get out of control, it's very tame by my standards, and there is no way to reverse a loop. Other than those 2 things it is an absolutely brilliant piece of equipment. the sound quality is unparalleled. I'm waiting to see how on top of updates they are. They seemed very responsive in email, so I hope they will be adding features soon. If not I may return it. Teddy On Sep 4, 2007, at 4:51 PM, Dan Ash wrote: > > Ths manual for this unit doesn't specify all the capabilities of > the midi implementation, and it's vague on sync and exactly what > can be controlled with .CC messages. But it appears to offer a 12- > second loop (longer at reduced bit rate) and a midi-learn > function. If the feedback rate is controllable with an external > pedal I could be interested - a portable looper that can double as > a delay... > > http://www.eventidestompboxes.com/ > > Dan Ash > White Plains, NY From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 5 04:50:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 05D863BF82; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 04:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 12:50:31 +0800 From: Randolf Arriola Subject: Re: keeley electronics DL4 Mod- noisy! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <085901c7ef78$4b375560$6601a8c0@embryo> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <92476.23803.qm@web38615.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <9HT4QC.A.q6C.rWj3GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 04:50:51 +0000 (UTC) Luis, the complexity of modding the DL4 is mostly because of the use of SMT components which makes the process more delicate thus more time consuming. Well at least that's what I feel. :) Randolf Arriola (aka the embryo) Hp 97584919 http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/theembryo.htm http://www.myspace.com/the_embryo ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.A. Angulo" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 6:36 AM Subject: Re: keeley electronics DL4 Mod- noisy! > just curious how complex is the DL4 to modify? > 100.00dlls seem a bit steep but perhaps it it > complicated,no? > Luis > > > > > > Randolf Arriola wrote: > >> Luis, you still haven't resolved your DL4 problem? >> >> Mine's self modded and comparing to my friends' >> Keeleys yes we both have an >> improved difference when compared with a stock DL4. >> What's the diff between >> mine and a Keeley? Well, Keeley's is a more subtle >> improvement which is >> pretty good already. Mine is tweaked just a notch >> brighter and louder...for >> my own taste but can be adjusted for individuals' >> taste. I may want to put a >> trimpot for easier adjustments but later. >> >> Randolf Arriola (aka the embryo) >> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/theembryo.htm >> http://www.myspace.com/the_embryo >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "L.A. Angulo" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 5:36 AM >> Subject: Re: keeley electronics DL4 Mod- noisy! >> >> >> > Hey Randolf, >> > did you notice a big difference after the >> > mod?unfortunately i havent been able to try mine! >> > cheers >> > Luis >> > >> > >> >> I've also modded my own DL4 to resolve the slight >> >> volume drop and darkening >> >> effects of the bypassed tone. >> >> >> >> Good Luck. >> >> >> >> Randolf Arriola (aka the embryo) >> >> http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/theembryo.htm >> >> http://www.myspace.com/the_embryo >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "Doug Wellington" >> >> >> To: >> >> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2007 4:43 AM >> >> Subject: Re: keeley electronics DL4 Mod- noisy! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> i just had my DL4 modded by keely electronics >> and >> >> had >> >> >> a chance to try it today,unfortunately there >> is >> >> >> soemthing wrong with it its very noisy but >> when i >> >> >> wiggle and rock the cable from the output >> jacks >> >> it >> >> >> goes away anybody know what that might be or >> how >> >> i can >> >> >> try to fix it myself? >> >> > >> >> > OK, silly question maybe, but did you try a >> >> different cable? >> >> > >> >> > Doug >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ____________________________________________________________________________________ >> > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the >> Internet in your pocket: mail, >> > news, photos & more. >> > http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready > for the edge of your seat? > Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. > http://tv.yahoo.com/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 5 06:03:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 472AC3BF81; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:03:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=rb8sqGVXOYtnF6pZEHSyrivSY/4y2+T5VpYWrGt8vKN01JIruf4upDhgbmdRQVA1WxKAhzbDWuyt9GaT/z5HWdKNmyafTe4qYgbVzASasa2wznBau0dBZMQFzcwIFUmSo9QNu1/jN6Af3cxPuFYCH6nLi3Uz3QssoY5fuuPG7oQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=lpimHY5qfcWKCZvBFpHX6BSvZqm+zq7eDu4UxOCp952oC4o6Af26jD4G6FtpHa2QfD0S79HtoZvRznHArCfBFzu8QYUu+rgUvUtPU5723g27iDWUo0X1HEblp5ZEeB6KmflEcwR3HIJcJfc/TGUHIxmCYYSLpwZm8GP7uspO0OQ= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <004f01c7ef33$0b6be760$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7204F8BCB5@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> <004f01c7ef33$0b6be760$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Looping on Revoxes (a treatise) Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:03:50 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:03:59 +0000 (UTC) >> anyone else got any experience of using the two-deck setup? Yes. But I was using Tandberg, not Revox. You will have to tape together a long tape loop and also cover/deactivate the erasing head on one of the machines. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 5 06:06:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F091A3BF80; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:06:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ijHfMx7UxRDqzim0sU95YrhQv2HT656z59OZ9Cnaakw9WerG8CteH0eqRQXQMjqmBrTkjxrIkoui/AZeJfHOnpzEjm/MygDN/LKkREciWzR7dzSYeGau9gwNgKwOMIEFD7Z4pfFBzDM4+jOywcFzSmQmua/cOvVoRe+CmR0YvJg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=d1JtwIs+7EBRpH0rFCgvBJRgoFfZtdnhye1j8MFxN/OsPULKh4BQ1GpB8hmKBddkPNAKYAUhPbU7+K5hMg2cqYC/VlFj4Ve6vi1jo6c9i1F9V3cnifpeXtReAIku6M7MOm9c34OG5fX+Ax3mogpLYWK7LiClbAtUKFsjNqQY/ZI= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <46DDC545.5030302@Verizon.net> References: <46DDC545.5030302@Verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Anybody see this? Eventide delay unit w/ loop mode Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:06:41 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:06:50 +0000 (UTC) On 4 sep 2007, at 22.51, Dan Ash wrote: > http://www.eventidestompboxes.com/ Yes, I've seen that one. Still eagerly waiting for someone who owns one to report a little. Didn't find any relevant info on Harmony Central's user reviews since it is still rather new on the market. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 5 06:33:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 895B53BF8E; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:33:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:references:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=p9nosdo5juVsti217K9BYcUHMRyIjP4nh0x/RMzRwrKvyBtHAKR5bnYA+MGbjQlcD0ye4ucUzi6N+EioWdFJYXZT+ZygOpeZkx2lr8uJ/nBM5vDz1RrcSaejM7uYfil7KA4Bj3eHNMpb06yCUVeowRkjuC1b5AWvbA17i9D4nx8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:references:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=fxkd3t0BAzV6tGrOrwyWdQnPXI5Qq7nhb27mhpde+PNZadvqDZhSxPOpqA0XAXziYapfZrWouK8Hu5c0tvUQgjkXXaGLYQrT7anzz74VJaHgr+j9LvTiv13T4EffzOE2/0dhpTvAO94TA1iXuycL6hzCN2AJQ7JZZrvmC8QyV70= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) References: <40AE65BB-FF52-4B81-A9E5-ADB0ABCDD609@gmail.com> X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: tenori-on questions Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:33:08 +0200 To: Loopers X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <9G5_-D.A.yrG.s2k3GB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:33:16 +0000 (UTC) > Any idea what it will cost? Price will be GBP 599 in the initial run. I checked with The Internet =20= and got this: > As we expected, we=92ve been tipped off that despite leaked =20 > information on the Tenori-On from last week, potential buyers are =20 > unlikely to get a price break on the Tenori-On when it (hopefully) =20 > ramps up to full production after its limited edition trial run in =20 > the UK. If would-be Tenori-On buyers weren=92t hungry enough for the =20= > first run as it is, that should help. This is a =93marketing trial,=94 = =20 > but based on what I=92ve heard so far, I expect it=92ll be very =20 > successful. > The referred "leaked information" is to be found at: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/08/31/tenori-on-pricing-behind-the-=20= scenes-images/ The Tenori-On manuals can be downloaded. http://www.global.yamaha.com/tenori-on/downloads/index.html Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international)= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 5 06:41:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C21543BF75; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:41:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=umCQbXQeMG5bjraPCKuxmulWBkKPVYzZxe9zRFf1bigy6fYm3m7GhMWmUih1Ms+1VSiC/KdQHmaHgifDL1WlJ1NRN0PGMSW3heiTOaH6gdoo1cQ/KEg+arhT7hMBfN+vo2akHf/+I4OkMwQ3xdzXRt9Hl2302y6pmvY1fYbir34= ; X-YMail-OSG: LOV1iPIVM1l6rHYfZveRfEaFugsS0cDvR0pNndFePiavy9N5AyJPLOM_0gubpxEhlzpBrpdThA-- Message-ID: <008001c7ef87$c3e27490$6402a8c0@PC576340162804> From: "Ben" To: References: <006e01c7eec3$b306f700$6402a8c0@PC576340162804> <002701c7ef08$903f8fd0$1001a8c0@succubus> <55e79c0d0709040851v24b22badw35011af6a51b93c6@mail.gmail.com> <0B63E44A-3A00-4734-9BA8-0E06EAFF0F8E@gmail.com> <000801c7ef2c$3e14d2a0$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> Subject: Re: tenori-on questions Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:41:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:41:23 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" > some questions about the tenori-on after seeing the litle movie, i'm just > curious: > > is it possible to use a grid that's smaller than 16 per 16 bits, so we > could funk around in 5 or 3 or 7? --> Yes, you can change the loop start and loop end on the fly > what about a bigger grid than 16? --> a grid of 16 is called a block, you can have 16 block you can change on the fly to add variation > what about velocity? --> no velocity but you have 16 layer and you can us a mixer like panel to adjust the volume of each layer so you can fake velocity by using several layer assigned to the same instrument > or aftertouch? --> no > can you switch parts? ("shall we take it to the bridge? - yeah") --> see the block concept > can you save your creations? on the card? --> yes, you also have a "clock" mode which display the current time and can play a random composition choosen on the card every hour (chime) or at an alarm time or continuously. You can also save on the card your own "voices" which are sample-sets of 16 wav files (max 0.97sec each). Up to 3 of these voices can be used in layers. > can you use the chromatic scale (or any other than major)? --> yes you have the choice between Ionian, Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian, Aeolian, Locrian, Chromatic and OKINAWA The manual can be downloaded from the site but I still hadn't the time to read it. It transmits midi clock/start/stop and note numbers with a fixed velovity of 100. The sound module recognize velocity however, not sure it can be recorded. You can set the gate time for each layer between 10 msec - 9990 msec. It has chorus and reverb but no Delay So to answer Rainer, it has nothing to do with the KP except perhaps the UI. I guess a V2 would bring more effect, more voices and more sampling capabilities. Ben. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 5 08:36:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DFB83BF0A; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002601c7ef97$e52c62e0$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> Reply-To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <006e01c7eec3$b306f700$6402a8c0@PC576340162804> <002701c7ef08$903f8fd0$1001a8c0@succubus> <55e79c0d0709040851v24b22badw35011af6a51b93c6@mail.gmail.com> <0B63E44A-3A00-4734-9BA8-0E06EAFF0F8E@gmail.com> <000801c7ef2c$3e14d2a0$18b2a8c0@netzrechner> <008001c7ef87$c3e27490$6402a8c0@PC576340162804> Subject: Re: tenori-on questions Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 10:36:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/vdUUkMws7qKZN++VPFv6nFxjdPJA0nXnOy46 NT+OJcZBYx+PJvE8oMIQryYliUzffM2FVQ311IzaIuCBCRk6cm 4TdU6kVSlc6ldGyRGxRYto56JedZPi8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 08:36:25 +0000 (UTC) hey ben, thanx a lot for all the answers! tilmann From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 5 13:39:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10EB73BED6; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:39:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=WEObi7O2dtQO1172QTJKpWwLcoLUjJ7EzDlV/uAtbxjxo040VL21he8dUsThOyKwtDbw3eAZvvVqvIA83hPkHo4hDuxPkG1ukx8AqOxI61WN+JUEYjHSXBE9qUN8YW/2O1HO7A+NuBKW1q55HapcsRKyZdWM9D4oCrS/QEFA8IE=; X-YMail-OSG: scnyVn8VM1mKf2aqxgmCQkZm8zUT9AzmJIZJ5I3dpsdl2uSkGQUVJUYLtec535Bl2vstmLCh_uW9ZmgavSLJk2PQXnrljS0uT.5Em3zPf4Fl2OTvZdU3UBdZiO1pXA-- Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:39:19 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Anybody see this? Eventide delay unit w/ loop mode To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <99A1F493-E94D-4F8A-B2ED-14DF9CF87729@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <308627.63392.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:39:21 +0000 (UTC) hey teddy, can you go from delay mode to loop mode without having to switch manually like on the DL4,or have a preset for loop mode and others for differnt delays? Luis --- Teddy wrote: > I have one.... it is pretty bad ass, I must say. > > It has all the things the DL4 has but x2. 2 delay > lines available > simultaneously always. > > one thing it does that is cool is that after you > record a loop, if > you use midi to change to another looping patch, the > loop doesn't > stop and the new patch's settings get applied to the > loop. You can > alter the pitch of your loop with an expression > pedal. You can save > Different tuning schemes in consecutive patches and > step between > intervals. it goes up 2 octaves and down 2 octaves. > I don't know > another looper that does that so freely. > > The only trouble I'm having with it as a DL4 > replacement is that the > feedback doesn't get out of control, it's very tame > by my standards, > and there is no way to reverse a loop. Other than > those 2 things it > is an absolutely brilliant piece of equipment. the > sound quality is > unparalleled. > > I'm waiting to see how on top of updates they are. > They seemed very > responsive in email, so I hope they will be adding > features soon. If > not I may return it. > > Teddy > > On Sep 4, 2007, at 4:51 PM, Dan Ash wrote: > > > > > Ths manual for this unit doesn't specify all the > capabilities of > > the midi implementation, and it's vague on sync > and exactly what > > can be controlled with .CC messages. But it > appears to offer a 12- > > second loop (longer at reduced bit rate) and a > midi-learn > > function. If the feedback rate is controllable > with an external > > pedal I could be interested - a portable looper > that can double as > > a delay... > > > > http://www.eventidestompboxes.com/ > > > > Dan Ash > > White Plains, NY > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Sep 5 13:46:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 987953BF51; Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:46:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=tS2xS42BvmORNHum9Qv3gg2ZBf4ZJotgpE8ZeCLKZLhHWr607zBnzUxCiWzWousc7QQpJP3zEwnFotQGiHeMT+OUa6MkMIQiSsCJJSEst3WFYztdbv4KKvBV7/0HWdzdFOWqKWinokPRxdTpl1ViivGq1QBx5UJDInW4E9JC+NY=; X-YMail-OSG: WE3mTuMVM1nNrhgog7sRnoNQRuFzILHJ2SYIIH00QyEquLZQgr0y8nqiiIWtr.sCyLcod91dSknoEjRrQwhG8UA2GK7pL5pyLB6_9RxFEZ3S0U_TACU- Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 06:46:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: AW: OT Re: No rules: no standard To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <04E735EE-EE2F-43DB-8190-F820D76DAE65@ubergadget.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <236242.66389.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/74185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 13:46:25 +0000 (UTC) the reason why i dont mind the off topics is that i rather have different intelligent subjects from this one list than from different other forums or lists where you have to log in x-tra,folks is all a matter of a quick "delete" Luis --- Rev Fever