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and it DID... together with the universal access screen zoom, it is totally
seeable.  thanks, Kris.

nice work you've done here.

t.


On 6/30/07, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
>
>  Here is a bigger version of my system screen capture, in edit mode. This
> should help.
>
> http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear/max-inside-large.gif
>
> Kris
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> I know, I just can't seem to get a decent screen capture of my system,
> without the graphics program on my other computer. I have to rely on the
> windows screen capture function (alt prt screen, saved to tiff, and then
> exported to jpg. It's damn frustrating. I have an idea, though. I'll save
> bigger files behind the web versions, that open up in your entire screen.
>
> Anyway, yes, I keep my gain structure consistent from patch to patch by
> inserting level control in each one, ensuring that each patch activated is
> consistent with the initial input level of the signal chain (right after
> adc~).  It took me a while to fine tune it. Also, the beauty of the system
> is all those patches at the top level are really patches containing the
> poly~ object, and they in turn reference the actual effect patches. Hence,
> when I deactivate the a poly patch, it removes the effect patch it from my
> signal chain and has no drain on CPU. Very slick trick, thanks to Jeff
> Kaiser.
>
> I may eventually revamp my system using matrix and adding the ability to
> put patches in serial or parallel, but it's not a high priority right now. I
> actually like my patches in serial, because I can do some outrageous
> stacking of effects to produce totally monstrous sounds. :)
>
> Kris
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *Sent:* Friday, June 29, 2007 11:02 PM
> *Subject:* Re: New Pre-Loop/Post-Loop Effect Feature of my MAX Looper
>
> totally cool, krispen, but BOY is it hard to see at that resolution.  even
> after downloading and magnifying!
>
> i am particularly interested in seeing how you work your gain
> structure...  all of those effects must mount up. after chaining... but
> probably that's the part i can't see well.
>
> all best,
> todd
>
>
> On 6/29/07, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
> >
> >  FYI, if you want to see under the hood of my max system, here is the
> > image, with all the objects shown, the wiring, etc.
> > http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear/max-inside.jpg
> >
> > Kris
> >
> >
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> >
> >
> >  I added a really useful and fun component to my MAX/MSP looping rig,
> > and wanted to see if anyone else was doing the same with your systems.
> >
> > Basically, I added some signal re-routing code so that with a click of a
> > button, the sound in my looper's buffer is re-routed back into my effect
> > signal chain, so that I can do post-loop signal processing and
> > manipulation.  For example, let's say I lay down a few loops with some basic
> > effects. I hit the re-route button, set my instrument down, and then I can
> > just sit back and use my effects as instruments to manipulate the loop
> > output, playing with parameters with my MIDI controller pedals, etc.  I can
> > also continue adding loops (effected loops of the original loops), or loop
> > my live voice or instrument at the same time. I also added a section in my
> > rig so that I can add any recorded wav file to my mix with a click of a
> > button.
> >
> > Anyway, I'm having loads of fun with the changes to my system,
> > especially with be able to play wav files. I can record a catalogue of wav
> > files with my uneffected voice or instrument, and then use it a raw content
> > for looping fun on the airplane, hotel room, etc.
> >
> > Here's how the system looks now.
> > http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear/max-map.jpg
> >
> > Kris
> >
> >
> > **************************************************************************
> > Krispen Hartung
> > www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung
> > info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603
> > Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm
> > CD Baby Discography: http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung
> >
> >
>
>
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and it DID... together with the universal access screen zoom, it is totally seeable.&nbsp; thanks, Kris.<br><br>nice work you&#39;ve done here.<br><br>t.<br><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/30/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">
Krispen Hartung</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:khartung@cableone.net">khartung@cableone.net</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">






<div bgcolor="#ffffff">
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Here is a bigger version of my system screen 
capture, in edit mode. This should help.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"><a href="http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear/max-inside-large.gif" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear/max-inside-large.gif
</a></font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Kris</font></div><div><span class="e" id="q_1137b22974edf961_1">
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font>&nbsp;</div>
<blockquote dir="ltr" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;">
  <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
  <div style="background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none;">
&nbsp;</div>
  <div><br></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">I know, I just can&#39;t seem to get a decent screen 
  capture of my system, without the graphics program on my other computer. I 
  have to rely on the windows screen capture function (alt prt screen, saved to 
  tiff, and then exported to jpg. It&#39;s damn frustrating. I have an idea, though. 
  I&#39;ll save bigger files behind the web versions, that open up in your entire 
  screen.</font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Anyway, yes, I keep my gain structure consistent 
  from patch to patch by inserting level control in each one, ensuring that each 
  patch activated is consistent with the initial input level of the signal chain 
  (right after adc~).&nbsp; It took me a while to fine tune it. Also, the beauty 
  of the system is all those patches at the top level are really patches 
  containing the poly~ object, and they in turn reference the actual effect 
  patches. Hence, when I deactivate the a poly patch, it removes the effect 
  patch it from my signal chain and has no drain on CPU. Very slick trick, 
  thanks to Jeff Kaiser. </font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">I may eventually revamp my system using matrix 
  and adding the ability to put patches in serial or parallel, but it&#39;s not a 
  high priority right now. I actually like my patches in serial, because I can 
  do some outrageous stacking of effects to produce totally monstrous sounds. 
  :)</font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Kris</font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;">
    <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none;">----- Original Message ----- </div>
    <div style="background: rgb(228, 228, 228) none repeat scroll 0% 50%; -moz-background-clip: -moz-initial; -moz-background-origin: -moz-initial; -moz-background-inline-policy: -moz-initial; font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none;">
<b>Sent:</b> 
    Friday, June 29, 2007 11:02 PM</div>
    <div style="font-family: arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none;"><b>Subject:</b> Re: New Pre-Loop/Post-Loop 
    Effect Feature of my MAX Looper</div>
    <div><br></div>totally cool, krispen, but BOY is it hard to see at that 
    resolution.&nbsp; even after downloading and magnifying!<br><br>i am 
    particularly interested in seeing how you work your gain structure...&nbsp; 
    all of those effects must mount up. after chaining... but probably that&#39;s 
    the part i can&#39;t see well. <br><br>all best,<br>todd<br><br><br>
    <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/29/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Krispen 
    Hartung</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:khartung@cableone.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">khartung@cableone.net</a>&gt; 
    wrote:</span> 
    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
      <div bgcolor="#ffffff">
      <div><font face="Arial" size="2">FYI, if you want to see under the hood of my 
      max system, here is the image, with all the objects shown, the wiring, 
      etc.</font></div>
      <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><a href="http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear/max-inside.jpg" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear/max-inside.jpg</a>
</font> 
      </div><font face="Arial" size="2">
      <div><br>Kris</div>
      <div></div></font><br>&nbsp;</div>
      <blockquote dir="ltr" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); padding-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;">
        <div dir="ltr" align="left" lang="en-us">
        <hr>
        <font face="Tahoma" size="2"><br></font><br></div>
        <div><span>
        <div></div>
        <div><font face="Arial" size="2">I added a really useful and fun component 
        to my MAX/MSP looping rig, and wanted to see if anyone else was doing 
        the same with your systems.</font></div><font face="Arial" size="2">
        <div><br>Basically, I added some signal re-routing code so that with a 
        click of a button, the sound in my looper&#39;s buffer is re-routed back 
        into my effect signal chain, so that I can do post-loop signal 
        processing and manipulation.&nbsp; For example, let&#39;s say I lay down a 
        few loops with some basic effects. I hit the re-route button, set my 
        instrument down, and then I can just sit back and use my effects as 
        instruments to manipulate the loop output, playing with parameters with 
        my MIDI controller pedals, etc.&nbsp;&nbsp;I can also continue adding 
        loops (effected loops of the original loops), or loop my live voice or 
        instrument at the same time. I also added a section in my rig so that I 
        can add any recorded wav file to my mix with a click of a button. </div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
        <div>Anyway, I&#39;m having loads of fun with the changes to my system, 
        especially with be able to play wav files. I can record a catalogue of 
        wav files with my uneffected voice or instrument, and then use it a raw 
        content for looping fun on the airplane, hotel room, etc. </div>
        <div>&nbsp;</div>
        <div>Here&#39;s how the system looks now.</div>
        <div><a href="http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear/max-map.jpg" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear/max-map.jpg</a></div></font>
        <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><font face="Arial" size="2"></font>&nbsp;</div>
        <div><font face="Arial" size="2">Kris</font></div>
        <div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font>&nbsp;</div>
        <div><font face="Arial" size="2">**************************************************************************<br>Krispen 
        Hartung <br><a href="http://www.krispenhartung.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">www.krispenhartung.com</a> / <a href="http://www.myspace.com/krispenhartung" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">
www.myspace.com/krispenhartung</a><br><a href="mailto:info@krispenhartung.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">info@krispenhartung.com</a> / 1.208.724.5603 
        <br>Discography - <a href="http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm</a><br>CD Baby 
        Discography: <a href="http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung</a> 
        </font></div></span></div></blockquote></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br><a href="http://www.toddreynolds.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.toddreynolds.com
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Trust yourself.
Develop a theme.
Focus on execution.
Hang in there.

Regards,

Jim Richmond


On Jun 30, 2007, at 2:55 AM, David Kirkdorffer wrote:

> Hi -
>
> I'm going into studio next weekend to record.  Over the years I've  
> fallen
> into patterns.  I'd like to try something different.
>
> Past efforts can be heard here: http://www.myspace.com/undomusic
>
> And this is a great community for sharing ideas.  What are some  
> concepts or
> strategies you've used to break out of your patterns?
>
> Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
>
> David


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Hi David

I suggest you use a different tuning, e.g. new standard tuning (see=20
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the results.

Best regards from Switzerland

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Am 01.07.2007 um 07:41 schrieb James Richmond:

> Trust yourself.
> Develop a theme.
> Focus on execution.
> Hang in there.
>
> Regards,=A0
>
> Jim Richmond
>
>
> On Jun 30, 2007, at 2:55 AM, David Kirkdorffer wrote:
>
>> Hi -
>>
>> I'm going into studio next weekend to record. Over the years I've=20
>> fallen
>> into patterns. I'd like to try something different.
>>
>> Past efforts can be heard here: http://www.myspace.com/undomusic
>>
>> And this is a great community for sharing ideas. What are some=20
>> concepts or
>> strategies you've used to break out of your patterns?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
>>
>> David

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Link to my studio set-up. I know rather untidy. The heart of the 
set-up two Gibson EDP's linked for stereo operation. Until yesterday 
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base on Loopers Delight now working perfectly in time. The EDP's are 
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This is the live set-up my luck (at my age) I'm only gigging two 
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Guitar through Yamaha acoustic stomp pedal (excellent) - Line DL4 - Line
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Interesting idea.  I've been using a non-standard tuning since July 1992.
>From low strings: D-A-D-F-B-E.
Returning to E-A-D-G-B-E is looking exciting and new to me.  :-)

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Hi David

I suggest you use a different tuning, e.g. new standard tuning (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Standard_Tuning). Keep us posted about
the results.

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Am 01.07.2007 um 07:41 schrieb James Richmond:

> Trust yourself.
> Develop a theme.
> Focus on execution.
> Hang in there.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim Richmond
>
>
> On Jun 30, 2007, at 2:55 AM, David Kirkdorffer wrote:
>
>> Hi -
>>
>> I'm going into studio next weekend to record. Over the years I've
>> fallen
>> into patterns. I'd like to try something different.
>>
>> Past efforts can be heard here: http://www.myspace.com/undomusic
>>
>> And this is a great community for sharing ideas. What are some
>> concepts or
>> strategies you've used to break out of your patterns?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
>>
>> David

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This is wise advice.  Especially as during recording I tend to harbor =
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  Trust yourself.
  Develop a theme.
  Focus on execution.
  Hang in there.


  Regards,=20


  Jim Richmond




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    I'm going into studio next weekend to record.  Over the years I've =
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    Past efforts can be heard here: http://www.myspace.com/undomusic




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    David



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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Trust yourself.
  <DIV>Develop a theme.</DIV>
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  <DIV>Hang in there.</DIV>
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    <P style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" =
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    <P style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" =
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    size=3D3>Past efforts can be heard here: <A=20
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c</A></FONT></P>
    <P style=3D"MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px; FONT: 12px =
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Hi dears,
in the never ending hunt for the right pedalboard, it seems I have the 
chance to get a Rocktron All Access for a reasonable price.

I have never touched it pesonally and I need to find someone who owns or 
knows it to have a few informations:
-how are the switches ? I need to know if they are "silent" like the old 
Tc Electronic switches ( which don't "click") or are the typical noisy 
ones. This is a very important thing for me as I am playing more and 
more frequently in acoustic/classic environments, when you can't produce 
any other noise ( or sound ;-)) than what you are actually playing.
-does exist a pc editor for the all access ?
-any issue or anything I should be aware about.

thank you and sorry for the non artistical topic.

my best,
luca
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This is wise advice.  Especially as during recording I tend to harbor =
doubts about the validity of my work.=20
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: James Richmond=20
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
    Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 1:41 AM
    Subject: Re: Studio recording - breaking patterns - ideas?


    Trust yourself.=20
    Develop a theme.
    Focus on execution.
    Hang in there.


    Regards,=20


    Jim Richmond




    On Jun 30, 2007, at 2:55 AM, David Kirkdorffer wrote:


      Hi -




      I'm going into studio next weekend to record.  Over the years I've =
fallen

      into patterns.  I'd like to try something different.




      Past efforts can be heard here: http://www.myspace.com/undomusic




      And this is a great community for sharing ideas.  What are some =
concepts or

      strategies you've used to break out of your patterns?




      Thanks in advance for your thoughts.




      David



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      <P style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" =
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      <P style=3D"MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px; FONT: 12px =
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      <P style=3D"MARGIN: 0px"><FONT style=3D"FONT: 12px Helvetica" =
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      =
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How many of us have just one setup?

At one point in my history, the live rig consisted of packing up the 
studio and carting it to the performance site.  That was painful as it 
usually cost a few days on either end to dismantle and then restore the 
studio.

So we tried to separate the live rig from the studio rig.  Yeah, that 
did lead to some duplication, but my yard sale mentality helped there: 
don't pay more than you did for the first instance, but if another shows 
up cheaper, grab it.  I paid $450 for my first Arp Odyessy and $175 for 
my fourth.  (Anyone want to sell me my fifth? (-8)

But now I find myself in three different bands, each of which calls for 
a different setup.  In fact, one band called for three different setups 
for our last three gigs as we played a basement punk rock gig, an art 
gallery opening, and a silent film soundtrack.

So, I guess my question is: how many of us have the luxury of only one 
setup?

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(Sorry for long post. I left out the details to keep it down)

I have no fancy studio pix, since I'm trying to keep a small portable  
set-up. The recording gear is normally set up in the room were I live  
and work. It's based around an Apple G5 computer with an RME  
Multiface audio interface. I have four Genelec 8030A and a sub  
woofer. Only using all speakers when doing surround mixes. I  
sometimes pack two of the Genlecs in a trunk to use in the field for  
recording, performing, teaching or working as a producer coach.

I recently sold some of my hardware, now getting more into combining  
both studio production and playing out as a live looping artist in  
portable laptop set-ups (five years ago I was using EDP, Repeater +  
mixer etc etc in a gigantic rack but thank god we're moving on...).  
Anyway, although I'm always experimenting with different set-ups I  
mainly use three laptop systems for live-looping.

One is a Windows XP PC running Mobius VST under Bidule. This machine  
uses a RME FireFace400. Three physical inputs are used, each one  
trimmed to match the signal level for the instruments I play: Tenor  
sax, Alto Traverse Flute, Akai EWI 4000s, Stratocaster with floating  
whammy bar and Fretless Telecaster with Sustainiac Model C mechanic/ 
acoustic feedback system. The Bidule setup has 16 alternative effect  
chains that I play through PRE looper. This is my primary acoustic  
input looping setup. A schematic can be studied here:
http://www.looproom.com/bilder/bidule2007ff400.JPG
When playing live concerts I bring out one stereo output through a  
NiceNoice compressor box and into the PA. For studio recording I pipe  
four ADAT stereo channels into Logic Pro, carrying my live instrument  
input and the separated Mobius tracks (I rarely use more than three  
tracks when looping in Mobius, so it's quite sufficient).

Another acoustic input looping system I use is based on the AU plug- 
in Augustus Loop and runs on a Apple Powerbook with either the RME  
FF400 or a Echo AudioFire2 interface. It has two loopers and can do  
most trick I also manage with the EDP and Mobius. But since Augustus  
Looper is a tape delay simulator by heart it doesn't have the same  
tightness as the other two loopes. But that's not all bad if you ask  
me :-) I do more wobbly music with this looping setup and it also  
sounds differently because I only use Live's built-in effects for  
sound shaping. This rig can be studied on two screenshots:
http://www.looproom.com/bilder/AugustusLoop_Live1.png
http://www.looproom.com/bilder/AugustusLoop_Live2.png
If you read the headlines on the Master Track to the right you get a  
fair picture of the functions I have implemented so far. The clips in  
the chart are MIDI files or MIDI loops that control the loopers and I  
trig each horizontal row ("scene") from pedals while playing.

My third setup is for MIDI input (i.e. playing the EWI only) and runs  
on two laptops. The Mobius PC as looper and a MIDI Clock synced  
Powerbook with Logic Pro as the softsynth/sampler and effect rig. 100  
different patches to call up from the EWI by MIDI Program Change,  
each patch utilizing one software instrument and loads of effects. A  
reverb and filtered delay system globally applied as Aux effect  
sends. My live audio from the Mac is piped digitally by SPDIF into  
the looper PC. In Logic I have set up all kind of dynamic "MIDI plug- 
ins" that I can play trhough (or not):  chord harmonizer for any key,  
arpeggiators etc. Also using different global micro tonal tunings for  
the software instruments. Screenshot of the Logic screen here:
http://www.looproom.com/bilder/LogicPro_MIDI_slave.png

Some live recorded sounding examples of the different looping setups:
---> Real-time, live:
Two laptop MIDI EWI looping: http://www.looproom.com/audio/mistwood.mp3
Mobius PC Bidule fretless guitar looping: http://www.looproom.com/ 
audio/b.mp3
---> Studio, ADAT multi channel pipe:
Mobius PC Bidule analog EWI looping: http://www.looproom.com/audio/ 
wip/glitch01wip2k7.mp3

Oh, I almost forgot that I have a fourth looping setup on the Mac  
based on Augustus Loop in AU host Numerology. This is drawing on the  
same technique as the Ableton setup - triggering sequences of MIDI  
control data for the loopers - but since Numerology is such a open  
system of inter modulating step sequence modular system the music  
that comes out of this looping tends to be somewhat more bizarre.  
Audio except:
http://www.looproom.com/audio/Numerology_Augustus_Looping2.mp3
Not using this setup at the moment while waiting for Numerology 2.0  
to be released. With ReWire support it will then be a funny looping  
system to run in sync with other applications.

Eh... just an old clip from playing Echoplex, Stratocater and drumloop:
http://www.looproom.com/audio/edp_strat_01.mp3
This crazy Substitute technique is something I still have not found a  
working software platform for doing. Mobius is closest by now. Maybe  
it would work on Mobius, but I just have not felt motivated to dig  
that deep into old directions...

I also think MetaSynth is a good tool for creating funny post prod  
stuff, but I have not used it for a while because I'm getting drawn  
more into real-time processing as part of the improvisational playing.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)




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David,

An idea along the same veins is to write music without a guitar in
your hands.  If' you've got a little training in reading/writing music
on paper, great, do that.  If not, write a tune or two vocally.  Sing,
whistle, or hum something and build it up that way.  Once you've got
something that sounds appealing, figure out how to play what you were
just singing and go from there.

Another idea is to pick a time signature or rhythm you wouldn't
normally use and see what happens when you try to build a song around
it.

May Apollo (Greek god of music, inspiration, and such) smile upon you.
Todd


On 7/1/07, nico spahni <nicosp@gmx.net> wrote:
> Hi David
>
> I suggest you use a different tuning, e.g. new standard tuning (see
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Standard_Tuning). Keep us posted about
> the results.
>
> Best regards from Switzerland
>
> Nico
>
> www.recpro.ch
> www.myspace.com/nicospahni
>
>
>
> Am 01.07.2007 um 07:41 schrieb James Richmond:
>
> > Trust yourself.
> > Develop a theme.
> > Focus on execution.
> > Hang in there.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jim Richmond
> >
> >
> > On Jun 30, 2007, at 2:55 AM, David Kirkdorffer wrote:
> >
> >> Hi -
> >>
> >> I'm going into studio next weekend to record. Over the years I've
> >> fallen
> >> into patterns. I'd like to try something different.
> >>
> >> Past efforts can be heard here: http://www.myspace.com/undomusic
> >>
> >> And this is a great community for sharing ideas. What are some
> >> concepts or
> >> strategies you've used to break out of your patterns?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
> >>
> >> David
>
>

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Typical noisy is my recollection.

TH

On 7/1/07, Luca Formentini <luca@unguitar.com> wrote:

> -how are the switches ? I need to know if they are "silent" like the old
> Tc Electronic switches ( which don't "click") or are the typical noisy
> ones. This is a very important thing for me as I am playing more and
> more frequently in acoustic/classic environments, when you can't produce
> any other noise ( or sound ;-)) than what you are actually playing.
>

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Nice Marley poster.   :-)

-Rev. Fever

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> Link to my studio set-up. I know rather untidy.

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Sigh, I cannot remember who it was, but someone in an interview I once 
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One of the best ways to create new inspiration whether studio or just a
rut, I learned from Mick Goodrick's Advancing Guitarist book several years
ago.

The idea was to record yourself for 2 minutes playing anything that comes
into your head.  Don't listen back to it, then and from his example he
suggested doing this daily but I've applied to say a 30 minute setting,
record another 2 minute passage, again don't listen to it then.  He
suggested over the daily lifespan of a 60 min cassette tape filling both
sides with 2 minute sequences.  Then when it's filled up go back and listen
to it through.  In the current day of digital capturing as mentioned I do
this for 30-minute periods of time.

That gesturing of momentary thoughts once rescued me from a depressed low
confidence place I fell into several years ago following a misunderstanding
(my ego) with a teacher.

I'm doing this now with a violin I received for Father's Day which is a new
instrument to me and at the learning the technique stage.

Think of the 2-minute gesture recording kind of like something Robin
Williamson (INcredible String Band) once said, 'it's like knaive painting'.

Now go hit Record David and don't think about it.

Best

Jim Goodin
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www.chinapaintingmusic.com
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On 6/30/07, David Kirkdorffer <vze2ncsr@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Hi -
>
> I'm going into studio next weekend to record.  Over the years I've fallen
> into patterns.  I'd like to try something different.
>
> Past efforts can be heard here: http://www.myspace.com/undomusic
>
> And this is a great community for sharing ideas.  What are some concepts
> or
> strategies you've used to break out of your patterns?
>
> Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
>
> David
>
>


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<div>One of the best ways to create new inspiration whether studio or just a rut,&nbsp;I learned from Mick Goodrick&#39;s Advancing Guitarist book several years ago.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>The idea was to record yourself for 2 minutes playing anything that comes into your head.&nbsp; Don&#39;t listen back to it, then and from his example he suggested doing this daily but I&#39;ve applied to say a 30 minute setting, record another 2 minute passage, again don&#39;t listen to it then.&nbsp;&nbsp;He suggested over the daily lifespan of a 60 min cassette tape filling both sides with 2 minute sequences.&nbsp; Then when it&#39;s filled up go back and listen to it through.&nbsp; In the current day of digital capturing as mentioned I do this for 30-minute periods of time.
</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>That gesturing of momentary thoughts once rescued me from a depressed low confidence place I fell into several years ago following a misunderstanding (my ego) with a teacher.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>I&#39;m doing this now with a violin I received for Father&#39;s Day which is a new instrument to me and at the learning the technique stage.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Think of the 2-minute gesture recording kind of like something Robin Williamson (INcredible String Band) once said, &#39;it&#39;s like knaive painting&#39;.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Now go hit Record David and don&#39;t think about it.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Best</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>Jim Goodin</div>
<div><a href="http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">www.jimgoodinmusic.com</a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com">www.chinapaintingmusic.com</a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic">www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic</a></div>
<div><a href="http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic">www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic</a></div>
<div><br><br>&nbsp;</div>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 6/30/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">David Kirkdorffer</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:vze2ncsr@verizon.net">vze2ncsr@verizon.net</a>&gt; wrote:</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Hi -<br><br>I&#39;m going into studio next weekend to record.&nbsp;&nbsp;Over the years I&#39;ve fallen<br>into patterns.&nbsp;&nbsp;I&#39;d like to try something different.
<br><br>Past efforts can be heard here: <a href="http://www.myspace.com/undomusic">http://www.myspace.com/undomusic</a><br><br>And this is a great community for sharing ideas.&nbsp;&nbsp;What are some concepts or<br>strategies you&#39;ve used to break out of your patterns?
<br><br>Thanks in advance for your thoughts.<br><br>David<br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin&nbsp;&nbsp;- <a href="http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com">http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
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Chinapainting on My Space -<br><a href="http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com">http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com</a><br>The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - <a href="http://www.woodandwiremusic.com">
http://www.woodandwiremusic.com</a> <br>Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - <a href="http://www.ghsstrings.com">http://www.ghsstrings.com</a> and Seagull Guitars - <a href="http://www.seagullguitars.com">http://www.seagullguitars.com
</a>, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - <a href="http://www.melbay.com">http://www.melbay.com</a><br><br>Associates and friends on the web -<br>Daryl Shawn -<br><a href="http://www.swanwelder.com">http://www.swanwelder.com
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I think it's a really great idea to write a melody by singing instead of 
one's primary instrument. A related approach is to write parts  on 
instruments other than the ones they'll be played on,good way to get out of 
what I call motor habits, ie familiar fingerings ,box patterns etc. I got a 
great bassline by playing an african bell pattern on a pennywhistle ,taking 
that line down a few octaves,and making some big holes in it.

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howdy,

 What I'll do is turn every thing i usually use off,
and turn everything I don't use on. I'm talking about
echo, reverb, compression, distortion, etc. You get
the picture. it forces you out fo your comfort zone
and send you off in a different direction.
Rig


--- Jim Goodin <jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:

> One of the best ways to create new inspiration
> whether studio or just a
> rut, I learned from Mick Goodrick's Advancing
> Guitarist book several years
> ago.
> 
> The idea was to record yourself for 2 minutes
> playing anything that comes
> into your head.  Don't listen back to it, then and
> from his example he
> suggested doing this daily but I've applied to say a
> 30 minute setting,
> record another 2 minute passage, again don't listen
> to it then.  He
> suggested over the daily lifespan of a 60 min
> cassette tape filling both
> sides with 2 minute sequences.  Then when it's
> filled up go back and listen
> to it through.  In the current day of digital
> capturing as mentioned I do
> this for 30-minute periods of time.
> 
> That gesturing of momentary thoughts once rescued me
> from a depressed low
> confidence place I fell into several years ago
> following a misunderstanding
> (my ego) with a teacher.
> 
> I'm doing this now with a violin I received for
> Father's Day which is a new
> instrument to me and at the learning the technique
> stage.
> 
> Think of the 2-minute gesture recording kind of like
> something Robin
> Williamson (INcredible String Band) once said, 'it's
> like knaive painting'.
> 
> Now go hit Record David and don't think about it.
> 
> Best
> 
> Jim Goodin
> www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/30/07, David Kirkdorffer <vze2ncsr@verizon.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi -
> >
> > I'm going into studio next weekend to record. 
> Over the years I've fallen
> > into patterns.  I'd like to try something
> different.
> >
> > Past efforts can be heard here:
> http://www.myspace.com/undomusic
> >
> > And this is a great community for sharing ideas. 
> What are some concepts
> > or
> > strategies you've used to break out of your
> patterns?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your thoughts.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  -
> http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
> MySpace (solo) -
> http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
> Chinapainting -
> http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
> Chinapainting on My Space -
> http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
> The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative
> souls -
> http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
> Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings -
> http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars
> - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is
> published by Mel Bay
> Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
> 
> Associates and friends on the web -
> Daryl Shawn -
> http://www.swanwelder.com
> Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com
> John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com
> Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net
> Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com
> Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com
> New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com
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The switches make a resounding "click" when pressed.

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On Jul 1, 2007, at 6:43 AM, Luca Formentini wrote:

> Hi dears,
> in the never ending hunt for the right pedalboard, it seems I have  
> the chance to get a Rocktron All Access for a reasonable price.
>
> I have never touched it pesonally and I need to find someone who  
> owns or knows it to have a few informations:
> -how are the switches ? I need to know if they are "silent" like  
> the old Tc Electronic switches ( which don't "click") or are the  
> typical noisy ones. This is a very important thing for me as I am  
> playing more and more frequently in acoustic/classic environments,  
> when you can't produce any other noise ( or sound ;-)) than what  
> you are actually playing.
> -does exist a pc editor for the all access ?
> -any issue or anything I should be aware about.
>
> thank you and sorry for the non artistical topic.
>
> my best,
> luca
> www.unguitar.com
>
>
>

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maybe already mentioned:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFyFp7QCItc&mode=related&search=


got there from here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiI2UsgDGd4&mode=related&search=

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Thanks for the review Daryl!

One of my Repeaters gets "jammed" sometimes. It's like the software  
freezes, the LCD just says "Not Ready" and you can't record, stop,  
erase...do anything. Only solution is to kill the power for the  
machine. It's happened for a couple of years that one...

Irritating, but I try to work it in where possible!



On Jun 27, 2007, at 8:14 AM, Daryl Shawn wrote:

> I saw Zoe Keating and Loop!Station on Saturday night in San  
> Francisco. I unfortunately missed the other performers who were  
> part of this all-cello evening (dubbed "Mondo Cello"), though I  
> understand they were more conventional bands using cello as an  
> instrument in addition to guitars and drums.
>
> Loop!station is a duo, cello and vocals, made of Sam Bass (who I  
> knew from the interesting cello/violin/drum trio Deadweight) and  
> Robin Coomer (who I knew from the really really loud rock band  
> Birdsaw). They had a bunch of different Loopstations (natch)  
> between them, plus at least one DL4. Sam's silver-painted (or could  
> it have been metal??) cello did a very nice job of setting up  
> varied textures, with his loopers, which are definitely used as an  
> accompaniment with his live playing being the main focus. My  
> girlfriend actually didn't even realize he was looping until he  
> started doing some percussion stuff. Robin would do some looping  
> also, as well as some generated harmonies. She has an ASTOUNDING  
> voice.
>
> They definitely play "songs" with "parts", which I suppose the  
> Loopstation pedals are pretty good for. It was somewhat amusing  
> watching them share patch-switching duties; if one was occupied  
> doing something involved, the other would take care of the  
> switches. Though they definitely had a lot to deal with technology- 
> wise, it never got tedious to watch, and the focus was really on  
> the cello and voice in the performance, just with a lot of foot- 
> tapping going on. I really enjoyed their set, very passionate as  
> well as interesting musically.
>
> Zoe came out last of the evening with her cello, a couple of  
> Repeaters in a rack with a laptop perched on top, and a single  
> floor controller (FCB1010, I think). She was the only solo  
> performer of the evening, but was immediately arresting with her  
> amazing tone (those low, bowed fourths and fifths are like the  
> voice of a god!) and slowly building compositions. There were some  
> technical problems (laptop crashes I believe), which ironically  
> didn't happen until she introduced one piece by describing that it  
> came about while dealing with a technical problem on tour. But she  
> handled it well and the problems didn't detract from the music. I  
> found it mesmerizing, really really beautiful stuff, and never even  
> thought about all the technology happening (well, until the  
> crashes). The audience seemed totally captivated too, and  
> definitely weren't a crowd of music geeks.
>
> It was interesting in that these were looping performances that  
> weren't built from improvisation, and moreover, involved the  
> performance of very specific pieces built from very specific loops,  
> as opposed to the seemingly more frequent improv-based looping.
>
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>
>
>

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Oh man, 16-track analog loops are gonna be amazing!!! Be sure to let us 
in on the mayhem.

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com

> I think I'll cut some loops for that
> beast and get some 16 track madness going on. Probably
> make several loops that last 1, 2, 3, and 4minutes.
> Load em in the machine and see what mayhem results.
> Using the 4 digital delays and the re-201 to make
> looping within looping ought to be a fun time. THANX
> for the tips.
> Rig

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I did four Texas dates with my band a few years ago...though in San 
Antonio I played the worst gig of my life (at an unforgettable "venue" 
called Tacoland), and Houston was a little weird, I had a great time in 
Austin and El Paso, and I'd love to travel there again. Honest! It's 
just so freakin' BIG and in the middle of the country that any tour 
which includes it as well as any of the coast cities turns into a 
serious roadshow venture. I do want to get there soon, though, 
especially Austin.

I had a Shiner Bock tonight...cheers on ya!

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com


> No Texas dates?
>
> Nobody ever plays Texas... [wanders off mubling with head hung low]
>
> --Josh

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Galactic Travels Playlist #535 for June 28, 2007

Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that
airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem,
PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville
and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet.  WDIY also broadcasts
in Digital HD at 88.1 FM.

                Show #535                June 28, 2007

RECAP:
On this show, I started a month-long focus on Robert Rich.  The
Featured CD at Midnight was "Electric Ladder" on Soundscape Records.

Robert Rich: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#jun


PLAYLIST:

11:04 pm
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Frank Klare          Digitalic One        Digitalic (Groove)
Robert Rich          Elemental Trigger -- Stalker (Fathom)
Robert Rich          Synergistic          Stalker (Fathom)
                       Perceptions --
Robert Rich          Interview June 23, 2007.
Gert Emmens and      Journey              Journey (EH)
  Ruud Heij
Klaus Schulze        Foreplay             Blackdance (Revisited)
Jim Cole and         Arches/Far Journeys  Innertones (Spectral Spiral)
  Spectral Voices

12:00 am
ARTIST               TRACK                ALBUM (label)
==================== ==================== ==============================
Robert Rich          Electric Ladder      Electric Ladder (Soundscape)
Robert Rich          Shadowline           Electric Ladder (Soundscape)
Robert Rich          Poppy Fields         Electric Ladder (Soundscape)
Robert Rich          Sky Tunnel           Electric Ladder (Soundscape)
Robert Rich          Concentric           Electric Ladder (Soundscape)
Robert Rich          Aquifer              Electric Ladder (Soundscape)
Robert Rich          Never Alone          Electric Ladder (Soundscape)

1:00 am

 * = excerpt
VA = Various Artists (compilation)
++ = Advance CDR from Artist
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Hi, probably a stupid quesition but does anyone have experience with the Boss RC50? I've been thinking of getting one for a while now but I can't work out how independent your inputs can be when using it as a live looper. 

If you're putting a guitar and a mic through it and you're looping the guitar, does it have to pick up whatever is coming through the mic (if there was crowd noise, for example...)? Presumably that way you'd lose a lot of sound quality. Equally, I wouldn't want to have to mute the mic when looping guitar in case I wanted to sing over the top of the loop afterwards (or add percussion via the mic). 

I'm confused. I'm thinking that the only solution, if you want to be able to control mic and guitar loops independently, is to have two separate units... but then you can't sync your live loops. If anyone can tell me otherwise, I'll go and buy the thing right now. I've gone cross-eyed just trying to work this thing out!
   
  Otherwise, I'll stick to Jamman for mic/vocals and RC20xl for guitar.
   
  Thanks!

 		
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