From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 00:27:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93C393BED0; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:27:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1688020255.1172708848048.JavaMail.root@fepweb04> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:27:28 -0800 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new experimental music project Cc: Brian Good MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 66.169.252.252 by mail.charter.net; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:27:27 -0500 X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:27:29 +0000 (UTC) Well, there's nothing new under the sun . . . and I'm sure it didn't origin= ate with me either for that matter. But I did a performance in 1989 in Ventura CA, with lovely Bay Area vocalli= st Liz Stuart, called "Vox in Box" where she sang her own interpretation of= a non-standard graphic "score" I'd concocted for her while I looped her pe= rformance with a pair of Electro Harmonix 16-second delays, ring modulators= and envelope followers . . . along with a Roland pitch-to-MIDI converter a= nd an array of synths and samplers selectively shadowing her vocal gymnasti= cs.. I've wanted to do it again ever since but just haven't found the opportunit= y -- and I've sold off (or given away) most of that old gear in the meantim= e. -- tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?p= layListId=3D6378076=20 http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ---- Brian Good wrote:=20 > nico spahni wrote: > > I'm working on a new experimental music project by the name of CAM=20 > > (Coincidental Audio Manipulation). This is the concept in a nutshell: > >=20 > > An improvising musician and a sound manipulator interact musically with= =20 > > each other in real-time. > >=20 > > Here are some first attempts with two piano players: > >=20 > > http://www.recpro.ch/mp3/sylvie_leideritz_and_cam_1.mp3 > > http://www.recpro.ch/mp3/sylvie_leideritz_and_cam_2.mp3 > > http://www.recpro.ch/mp3/alain_bollag_and_cam.mp3 > >=20 > > I find the idea of looping someone else rather intriguing. Both=20 > > participants (the looper and the loopee :-) can explore new musical=20 > > territories that would have remained unapproachable by playing on their= =20 > > own. Also, I can fully concentrate on sound processing while a musician= =20 > > does the playing. > >=20 > > Do you think this project is worth persuing? Is there anyone who has=20 > > worked in a similar direction? I'd love to hear about your sonic ventur= es. >=20 > I did something similar two or three years ago. I fed my soprano sax=20 > into Tim Walters' laptop, and he did all kinds of real-time damage with= =20 > a bunch of Supercollider code he had written. Unlike your stuff, it was= =20 > monophonic, but Tim's processing was so creative that the results were=20 > still interesting, at least to my ears. >=20 >=20 > Brian >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 00:59:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7894E3BED5; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:59:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=JXfjcDywi43/NAEu+HOyrLQNS6KZ6KryXGzp0eVlW1hvW/nEaEXRYOxc0YFDIqFPgRoWy6cs3rDxRhngwahtz+74eJ/yxOEF05wFLnJeBVM/LvfRVZBBkXrq15cC/OxCGjlln0Ej1/ekGjPCycc6sU5rBJnCrGvLt+gUHCLyrcM=; X-YMail-OSG: ccXpzoQVM1kvOowT8FkjFML8waVpmNe5pXofLtVmKjCnBaMew8X.QROoOI0aUsN9EMoGqe4x.Rxu4C7QP2v1efULe6yr39kwJn9LkSfwmOf4R4axPI6xzbsuXgtE9qNM2bHgKbaaMX6DcM4- Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:59:51 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: cd covers... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <564026.78751.qm@web38615.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 00:59:53 +0000 (UTC) wonderful art Joe! i might just need u for my next CD cover! bests, Luis --- Richard Sales wrote: > Very cool stuff, Joe! > > And... plug that RC50 in now! A whole world of > wonder awaits you. > Seriously. > > > richard sales > glassWing farm and studio > vancouver island, b.c. > 800.545.6846 > 250.752.4816 > www.glassWing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com > www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com > On 28-Feb-07, at 11:00 AM, Joseph Allen Popp wrote: > > > I know you're all creative and probably don't need > it, but I am a > > visual > > artist, as well as a Looper, and I would like to > let you all know that > > I am > > available to do CD cover art. Some of my images > may be viewed at: > > > > http://www.photomediacenter.org/popp/popphome.html > > > > I am new to Loopers Delight, but I'm 52 years old > and have been > > playing with > > layers of sound for many years. I just purchased > the RC-50, and have > > yet to > > plug it in! It just came in the mail TODAY! Yum! > You can hear a > > sample of > > my solo work at: > > > > http://playerie.com/artists/joe_popp/index.html > > > > You can hear my band: > > Joseph Allen Popp's WEIRDO THEATRE at: > > > > > http://playerie.com/artists/weirdo_theater/index.html > > > > Let me know what you think, sound-wise and or > visually... > > Nice to be here... > > Joe Popp > > -- > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 01:15:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9D85A3BED5; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 01:15:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:16:03 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Monthly Top 20 Report for February, 2007 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <45E62953.8000000@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 01:15:47 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/top20feb.html WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for February, 2007. Shows #514 to #517; 1-February-2007 to 22-February-2007 Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order. Compiled by Bill Fox website: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/podcasts.xml ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL =========================================================== Alpha Wave Movement - The Regions Between - Harmonic Resonance Copal River - Copal River - Blue Water Craig Padilla - The Light In The Shadow - Spotted Peccary Dwight Ashley - Ataxia - Nepenthe Fanger & Schonwalder - Analog Overdose: The Ricochet Dream Edition - Ricochet Dream Gert Emmens - The Tale if the Warlock - Groove Ian Boddy - Elemental - DiN John Duval - Hell's Canyon - Hypnos/Binary John Lakveet - Proportions - Groove Joint Intelligence Committee - Excession - Bogus Focus Klaus Schulze - Vanity of Sounds - Revisited Maneki Neko - Auracle - Stray Pointer Mark Jenkins - This Island Earth - Ricochet Dream/AMP Max Corbacho - Moontribe - ad21 Max Corbacho - Nocturnal Emanations - Space for Music Max Corbacho - The Resonant Memory of Earth - Space for Music Max Corbacho - The Talisman - ad21 O Yuki Conjugate - Peyote - Projekt Ololiuqui - Other Side of Odra - Ricochet Dream Various Artists - Analogy Volume 2 - Groove Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST (GMT-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 01:52:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A6893BECC; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 01:52:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=CdioKx8XBSTzCQeNSjocv58ZFPFJqQ1aclZXL1rn0LP+zZgE3lRTtFzOgXvxnBVOZpMV1zyLLeEwvvhcJzv2pXvzYhNzPUoEfSF5xx8pZwMtPqhzG33OcxR/fPqgN3jseAkHXgo2wn3StyCYVZ1ipVb5alanmh/m4Py87MOolNk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=NS2NeaIyO8jm4+vUBCsz2FqNkGK7FSHwH1SLyLp80xphLrkRrXJaBsXxpsOB+tOaW6pZH8nDq5T9FIQZpm5j7wjvgTk70fifwJGYaiygHdhZduh1+SfTeEVuLorwhAEdYRSjtvLYBJsJmVV2R/9t8VTNptAuq7RuuP8RLAlYSBM= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:52:33 -0800 From: "Matt Davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new experimental music project MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <3RHE4C.A.v1H.lHj5FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 01:52:38 +0000 (UTC) Hi Nico, Love the samples! Here in the San Francisco Bay Area, we have a lot of that going on. I've been both the processor and the processee in these sorts of setups. The trick is to leave the other musician room to play in, but it sounds like you two already have that understanding. Matt >nico spahni was like: > > I'm working on a new experimental music project by the name of CAM > (Coincidental Audio Manipulation). This is the concept in a nutshell: > > An improvising musician and a sound manipulator interact musically with > each other in real-time. > > Here are some first attempts with two piano players: > > http://www.recpro.ch/mp3/sylvie_leideritz_and_cam_1.mp3 > http://www.recpro.ch/mp3/sylvie_leideritz_and_cam_2.mp3 > http://www.recpro.ch/mp3/alain_bollag_and_cam.mp3 > > I find the idea of looping someone else rather intriguing. Both > participants (the looper and the loopee :-) can explore new musical > territories that would have remained unapproachable by playing on their > own. Also, I can fully concentrate on sound processing while a musician > does the playing. > > Do you think this project is worth persuing? Is there anyone who has > worked in a similar direction? I'd love to hear about your sonic > ventures. > > Cheers > > Nico > www.recpro.ch > www.myspace.com/nicospahni From C06211101@spreadit.nl Thu Mar 1 02:11:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 808 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Thu, 01 Mar 2007 02:11:26 UTC Received: from mail.spreadit.nl (mail.spreadit.nl [87.119.194.248]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA4B3BEAF for ; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 02:11:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail.spreadit.nl (Postfix, from userid 1066) id 187FB36627; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 02:57:52 +0100 (CET) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You have received a postcard ! 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================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 02:18:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EC463BEAF; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 02:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:17:44 -0500 From: Dan Ash Subject: Re: Immersive sound To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <45E637C8.7020507@Verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 02:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Very late chiming in here, but I was reminded of the amazing performance by Andre LaFosse at The Monkey - Dominic Frasca's 5.1 surround performance space in NYC (www.themonkeynyc.com ). I was amazed by the sonic soup Andre created with 5 EDPs each directed to a different speaker. http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200503/msg00518.html http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200503/msg00589.html I'm happy to see that The Monkey again has an active music calendar, as it appeared that not much was happening there for a while. I suppose it's possible that Dominic was on the road himself - he's a very talented and unique player who I saw at the New York Guitar Festival Marathon at the 92nd Street 'Y'. Anyway, talk about immersive! Dan Ash White Plains, NY From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 02:59:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 999713BEB8; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 02:59:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=XP8oe7XabIu/Ftsb7vtcM+IzoH6hFTx7uBCKjXEo8TDAXdGOVsE9qOGJbTgbvhEjlvrCw6GVGKpcxip9/e/QjjLci0X1KCyW2NyCDzb2dD4yFkbne1/j2OORZUHUe0SHNvceAvPNUYQCCZmqEu0koGbiwRm/cGzmGSpnOaNuR20= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=iMTblcR14wNKx1k/o/Ra1Tu/Z5fZIYC2IfMXSdlzro5GYlNsGLZhvCchf+Lqolyax5pPR17VZ5y7I7PE2QG9+XYX8ahz4JeJaTheHbkndR1qpsXRL9EAL0AmiMybPizuKg2/LqzWGu6T2ZpEf8XYJiNodz2n36jZTAxva5dfe5M= Message-ID: <46fea78d0702281859k4c4e0431w2e93394441250b9d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:59:48 -0800 From: "David H" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Playing at Home v. Playing Live MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_33849_24265569.1172717988601" Resent-Message-ID: <8wwNoD.A.1ZC.oGk5FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 02:59:52 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_33849_24265569.1172717988601 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline A member asked me what the difference is between my home playing and my live playing, and the answer warrants a new thread. Its been my impression that the majority of members on this list play "experimental" or "ambient" music. I really enjoy and appreciate it, too. Sometimes there is nothing better than flipping through the list listening to mp3s you guys have posted. Even so, my friends sometimes refer to these styles as artsy fartsy, over their head, weird and/or boring (no offense). I'm also a big fan of standard folk tunes. And admittedly, I can't seem to outgrow popular song structure. I write songs on my guitar in my rental house just like the dude next door, with verses, choruses, lyrics, and I use chords! ;) My loops are not very complex, I've got a beat, a rhythm guitar, some back up vocals, and a few layers here and there. I originally started looping because I got sick of trying to put a decent band together and decided to be the whole band. Now I play popular bars and clubs around town, and they like to hear "songs" that people can sing and dance to. Boy, that sentence sure made me seem like a sell out. But read on: Each song I've written has been composed in a very flexible way. I can pick up my acoustic and perform without ever plugging in, but I also leave a place in every song when I loop it to take it to places that are experimental or ambient. I have the dynamic of performing one song dry, and the next looped into outer space. Anyway, so I see the music I make as a transitional vehicle. From the popular mundane, to what I like to think of the fine wines of music, the experimental, and etc. You can take people who don't listen to ambient music to places they wouldn't normally go by tricking them into thinking they are listening to a popular song they could hear on the radio. I give Budweiser drinkers a sip of Merlot, (that's you guys). When I'm playing at home, its more entertaining to me, the loops are much longer and layers much deeper, effects much more dynamic. I'm experimenting. But during a performance I tone it down, I sing catchy tunes so that they like me, and throw in a few weird, noisy, ambient phrases to pique their interest, and so I have a good time too. David ------=_Part_33849_24265569.1172717988601 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
A member asked me what the difference is between my home playing and my live playing, and the answer warrants a new thread.
 
Its been my impression that the majority of members on this list play "experimental" or "ambient" music. I really enjoy and appreciate it, too. Sometimes there is nothing better than flipping through the list listening to mp3s you guys have posted. Even so, my friends sometimes refer to these styles as artsy fartsy, over their head, weird and/or boring (no offense).
 
I'm also a big fan of standard folk tunes. And admittedly, I can't seem to outgrow popular song structure. I write songs on my guitar in my rental house just like the dude next door, with verses, choruses, lyrics, and I use chords! ;) My loops are not very complex, I've got a beat, a rhythm guitar, some back up vocals, and a few layers here and there. I originally started looping because I got sick of trying to put a decent band together and decided to be the whole band. Now I play popular bars and clubs around town, and they like to hear "songs" that people can sing and dance to. Boy, that sentence sure made me seem like a sell out. But read on:
 
Each song I've written has been composed in a very flexible way. I can pick up my acoustic and perform without ever plugging in, but I also leave a place in every song when I loop it to take it to places that are experimental or ambient. I have the dynamic of performing one song dry, and the next looped into outer space. Anyway, so I see the music I make as a transitional vehicle. From the popular mundane, to what I like to think of the fine wines of music, the experimental, and etc. You can take people who don't listen to ambient music to places they wouldn't normally go by tricking them into thinking they are listening to a popular song they could hear on the radio. I give Budweiser drinkers a sip of Merlot, (that's you guys).
 
When I'm playing at home, its more entertaining to me, the loops are much longer and layers much deeper, effects much more dynamic. I'm experimenting. But during a performance I tone it down, I sing catchy tunes so that they like me, and throw in a few weird, noisy, ambient phrases to pique their interest, and so I have a good time too.
 
David
 
------=_Part_33849_24265569.1172717988601-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 03:53:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E73703BECF; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 03:53:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <053301c75bb5$3de3dca0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Why contemporary music sounds terrible Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 19:53:58 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 03:53:57 +0000 (UTC) I enjoyed reading the article on the history of compression and brick wall limiting in modern music and especially looking at the graphs of the examples. I had a couple of thoughts about compression, both pro and con: 1) Only little of the music that this community makes, even gets onto radio. And, as the guy in this article points out, even if you make a more dynamic CD the Radio has automatic and very sophisticated frequency controlled compression to even things out anyway: This means that we might just start a trend back toward more dynamic recordings here and away from brick wall compression in this community ..............one that will allow our fans to merely turn up the volume of their stereo if they want to hear the music louder. 2) Alternately, I am currently playing, listening to and composing a lot of music in the industrial/noise realm (in between sensitive recording sessions with different world acoustic musicians..............lol) and there is something really cool about a completely brick walled EBM or Power Noise track. It has a sound that is really different and in your face in aggressive way that is part of the aesthetic appeal (to some, of course) of the music to be produced this way. I remember hearing the Simple Minds "Don't you, Forget about Me" at a movie theatre when it first came out and it was just enormous using heavy compression in it's mix. It was really powerful and I went out and purchased it the next day because of it's sound. Compressing the hell out of drumsets, as an example, really makes the drum set sound different, timbrally Not necessarily better mind you...........there's certainly room for both aesthetics but I look at recording as almost a form of audio 'sculpture' if you will and this kind of over the top compression and clipping just becomes a different texture of musical clay (thanks for bearing with that metaphor) If you over compress you get 'pumping' or 'breathing' which is considered a bad thing in a lot of tradtional music. I love that sound though when used in electronic music and use it for it's own purpose because of the timbral quality it has. Someone wisely said that one's worst character defect can be a powerful character asset if used with conciousness and I imagine this is the wisest musical approach instead of an 'all or none' tack. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 07:49:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 629B23BEC2; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:49:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45E6859D.70300@addcom.de> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:49:49 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What do you think is necessary in order to have an excellentcomposition? References: <200702211505109.SM02192@quahome> In-Reply-To: <200702211505109.SM02192@quahome> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:49:54 +0000 (UTC) Qua Veda wrote: > It would be interesting to build some algorithm in Max that generates a > music form based on golden section or one of the other similarly pleasing > mathematical series. > > Maybe its already done. Oh yes, they all sound boring, unless you have some extra knobs to break the rules... What I do if I create algorithmic music: listen to the result, try to formulate what I don't like about the result, create a parameter to change that, and start again listening/changing till I like it. Then a few days later I have to come back and adjust again, till I feel its right... Within this process, the most important thing is to get rid of all thoughts and theories about good composition, its more like tuning in. If you tune your instrument, you'd better not think about scales, you just listen and adjust... You might find out afterwards, that you choose more often golden ratios than other ratios, but that doesn't mean anything... If you start composing by following all these rules, you certainly will be able to safly create music that will please a majority of people, but pleasing in this case means, they won't run away, they feel kind of comfortable with it, you can play it on the radio. But it doesn't do anything... This is not a good composition, its just pleasing. A good composition will turn your inside out, there is no rule for achieving this unless you call honesty a rule, you have to find your own way to do it... If you want to find some interesting attempts to create music like Bach look at this collection of 5000 !!! chorals: But I still would always prefer the original - and who wants to listen to 5000 chorals all made with the same rules?... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 07:50:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 699143BEC5; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:50:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45E685A7.6020202@addcom.de> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:49:59 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: wireless headset microphones for looping References: <649014.33210.qm@web38615.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <649014.33210.qm@web38615.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:50:03 +0000 (UTC) L.A. Angulo wrote: > I am curious to know if anybody is using such > micros,good brands for the buck, advantages > disadvantages etc. Not wireless, but since years I am singing into an AKG headset, for me the only way to move around , tweaking knobs and get sound into my Ondes Memorielles at the same time... If I could afford it, I'd probably get DPA's nowadays. The ones you almost can't see... Wireless is just an option, depends how much you move around... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 09:24:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 12C783BECC; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45E69BB6.6010607@addcom.de> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:24:06 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What do you think is necessary in order to have an excellentcomposition? References: <200702211505109.SM02192@quahome> <0c9e01c75643$0e472690$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45DDBF8F.4040104@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: <45DDBF8F.4040104@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Daryl Shawn wrote: > "What are the standards that we should set to judge all > compositions?". This is a good question, because its an absurd question. Art is not in the category for US to judge, but it is in the category for ME to judge. This sounds like a contradiction... It is not, but its the reason for so much confusion. If I have friends which like the same music, its likely we find criteria which let us believe we found THE common argument and rule to describe what is the standard to judge. But what you do, is lock yourself up and stop searching for the beauty in the music you don't like... This isn't necessarily bad, it will protect us for waisting our time. Usually we need some other members of our community to unlock us and lead us to the beauty, for most of us our parents and teachers do this, and keep us open for the beauty... > Would you argue that the question "What is Beauty?" is not a > worthwhile topic for philosophical discussion? Of course it is. Beauty is not an attribute to an object, its about the relation between an object and you. Thats it. If you judge "this picture is ugly" then you just might have missed its beauty, like in Rick's story (Thanks for sharing this Rick!) when he missed the beauty of Coltrane, but as his father was hearing the beauty, he learned to stay open and finally found much more beauty than he could imagine at the age of 12. If I don't like somethong I could assume I didn't get it. Of course you always can judge about craft. Its not hard to trash badly reproduced cover music or these "I want to be a star" attempts. But in these cases there is no art involved at all... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 09:24:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21DA23BED2; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:24:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45E69BC8.1090008@addcom.de> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:24:24 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ontology and epistemology of aestheitics References: <022220071607.26851.45DDBFBD000992E5000068E32215567074020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <022220071607.26851.45DDBFBD000992E5000068E32215567074020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:24:29 +0000 (UTC) midifriedchicken@comcast.net wrote: > And we move swiftly to the subject of "Who listens to this shit > anyway?" Answer: Not really anybody. I mean, I love it, but if you > play "New" music for most people, they get that glazed look in their > eye and start looking at their watch. Yeah, that's the point where craft is important. If you love it, you need to communicate your love with the audience. Most contemporary artists lack this craft... > But WHY do you play? Art? Expression? Money? Girls? It would be nice > if all came together in one easy to digest package. If your art is worthwhile, this should be no problem, look at Stockhausen, he has one set for all of it, its even easy to digest (too easy for my taste...;-) > Imagine hearing a hot chick say "Whoa did you see the size of his > pedalboard?!!" If a "Chick" would take the pedalboard instead of my music for a symbol of my other qualities, I guess I am not interested, this can't be a "hot" chick... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 09:24:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 195CE3BECF; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:24:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45E69BDC.1080504@addcom.de> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:24:44 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What do you think is necessary in order to have an excellentcomposition? References: <200702211505109.SM02192@quahome> <0c9e01c75643$0e472690$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45DDBF8F.4040104@mhorse.com> <0d2b01c756a1$6772d210$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45DDCD43.2020600@mhorse.com> <0d4a01c756a5$43885830$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <0d4a01c756a5$43885830$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:24:48 +0000 (UTC) Krispen Hartung wrote: > Absolutely, especially when discussing with one's significant other. > The last thing I would say at a romantic dinner is, "Dear, let me > tell you about how I think the term 'beauty' is meaningless...[insert > sound of plate flying through air and annihilating face with filet > mignone]" :) This vision should lead you directly to the (context sensitive) meaning of the word beauty. I used to call my 93 old neighbour a beauty, and she was... I only needed to imagine how she had been 60 years ago, and when I'd tell her, her smile immediatly uncovered that beauty... (Sadly she died just before christmas without long suffering...:-( Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 11:00:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31BE83BECF; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:00:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45E6B246.6090304@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:00:22 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Chinapainting RPM release Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:00:29 +0000 (UTC) I've been playing regularly with Jim Goodin via Ninjam since the Loopfest/Kyberfest last fall, both of us improvising on acoustic guitars (Jim often on fretless) with lots of four-track cassette looping, plus the occasional echo pedal or Dictaphone. We've gotten enthused enough about it to bestow a proper name on ourselves - Chinapainting - and now have a website (http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com) and everything. To date we still haven't met in person, so we're effectively a Ninjam-only band. Shout-out to CPR for supporting us through his server! (We may be the only international, virtual, improvisational, acoustic, analog looping duo out there, but who knows...) We put together one ten-song demo release a couple of months ago, then decided to take part in the February Record-Per-Month project. We managed to finish on time (in truth, since we're all-improv, it was more a matter of editing Ninjam sessions than actually composing) and are releasing the results as a full album, called "Trick of Amethyst". We're selling the physical disc, which has some lovely artwork, and half the tunes can be streamed or downloaded from our site (here's the streaming page - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm ). We'd love to hear any comments. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 11:08:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88DF93BEC7; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:08:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45E6B435.8030703@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 05:08:37 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What do you think is necessary in order to have an excellentcomposition? References: <200702211505109.SM02192@quahome> <0c9e01c75643$0e472690$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45DDBF8F.4040104@mhorse.com> <45E69BB6.6010607@addcom.de> In-Reply-To: <45E69BB6.6010607@addcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:08:42 +0000 (UTC) Great post, Stefan. I'm not sure if it's the sign of an open mind or just a weak one that in this discussion, I've found myself agreeing with those who contradicted me... Daryl Shawn > "What are the standards that we should set to judge all >> compositions?". > > This is a good question, because its an absurd question. > Art is not in the category for US to judge, but it is in the category > for ME to judge. This sounds like a contradiction... > It is not, but its the reason for so much confusion. > If I have friends which like the same music, its likely we find > criteria which let us believe we found THE common argument and rule to > describe what is the standard to judge. > But what you do, is lock yourself up and stop searching for the beauty > in the music you don't like... > This isn't necessarily bad, it will protect us for waisting our time. > Usually we need some other members of our community to unlock us and > lead us to the beauty, for most of us our parents and teachers do > this, and keep us open for the beauty... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 11:30:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDDC83BECC; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:30:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 06:30:51 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to Afterglow and Galactic Travels To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <45E6B96B.90008@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:30:30 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. 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Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 11:36:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C17EC3BED2; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:36:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00ab01c75bf5$ccf6a5e0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> From: "Fabio Anile" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E8_LaFosse_mp3?= Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:36:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A8_01C75BFE.2E75EE90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2007 11:36:07.0234 (UTC) FILETIME=[CD456220:01C75BF5] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:36:10 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A8_01C75BFE.2E75EE90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At http://www.altruistmusic.com/nyc3.html ther's the entire live = performance=20 Andre LaFosse held at the Monkey (NY), January 19th, 2006, freely = downloadable. 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Tons of looping = technics=20 !
It's an year old, but = maybe someone=20 not have noticed it and i'm sure here
there are a lot of = guitarist (not=20 only...., like me) that may be interested in this.
Have a good = day
 
Fabio
------=_NextPart_000_00A8_01C75BFE.2E75EE90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 11:57:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E8B03BECC; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:57:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=qV/zaQ66k5Nz89KhsqPY2C1pCHHBsYYRiXO+z4fMQqIv1nJzLUm30Ly41Oo8CS2rpEPrdtv5wyyFdh8Sz6KzPN3EDBqhfqaOscP9UrrioCSfgZps0t7FHmBz6ht/0iyCZsRvupFujFY8xc7ipQXr5QAAemRFSmLPHYtHPW0Z/Xk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=CnkKtQeSKsP0Ur2sCCCOHAAN5PavPF60vQ2NU/kSDwybxFy4opYHrCSuGrpMn2cuU7+NYba0PjiBJs92bVORdD4VHywRiCOCeGB90q+iJc6ppiQsLnRqWA1jJbKTqcCApPqSiZc2yQlg2FjXtzvLWRyChkw+QXzBvzL+TTRpBD0= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45E6B246.6090304@mhorse.com> References: <45E6B246.6090304@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <55BE5638-9A9B-4834-92C4-9FB7E3A7141E@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Chinapainting RPM release Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:56:51 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:57:03 +0000 (UTC) On 1 mar 2007, at 12.00, Daryl Shawn wrote: > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/ > We'd love to hear any comments. > Daryl Shawn I find the complete project very inviting and positively communicative. From the very first sight of the web site's splash page, with that great artwork by Ray Istorico, to the biography text, the streaming and download listening options and the PayPal link to purchase a physical cd. It just appears to be a true presentation. No boring "equipment lists", just the music and the pictures that go so well together. I like the music and the complete setup very much :-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 12:05:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CE843BEC1; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:05:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:05:47 +0100 From: aandreas@gmx.ch In-Reply-To: <619418.64738.qm@web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070301120547.260360@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <619418.64738.qm@web33111.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: digitech x-delay To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #16615515 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18HOvgxdt4HkkSVDBveVz95Id/lR7YfLxHU6Lal9A L3TTg0QDWTUxuP5iC47FF19V8= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <02P_OC.A.NJD.dGs5FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:05:49 +0000 (UTC) thanks for the tips. yeps, running it before the rc2 was the plan. however, an unexpected plan-shift occured last night, triggered by the fact that i suddenly got the pcmcia port on my old laptop working again.. the idea was to have a computer-free simple looper solution in front of my amp in the other room (i dont fear the computers but as a programmer i already spend too much time with them...) but that was put on hold now:) anyway, i have a (in/out latency=6ms) guitar-truh-audiomulch in-front-of-amp setup working now that kept me awake till early in the morning. currently controlling it with midi knobs/buttons, but i guess ill invest the money planned for the rc2 into a behringer fcb1010 now...:) so heres the next question: the fcb1010 does have lights on each pedal, right? so i assume i can set them up as on/off switches, ie switching between cc 0 and cc128 , with the current status reported via the lights. right? (as opposed to 'momentary' buttons that only send when stomped upon) i want to set this up so that i dont have to look at the screen... thanks again -a -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:11:52 -0800 (PST) Von: scott hansen An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: Betreff: digitech x-delay > i will say that i found the digitech x-delay a very useful tool for the > price (99$). > the 4 sec of delay was more than enough for me most of the time, and i > liked being able > to manipulate the decay (feedback rate) and mess w/ the time a > bit-should not the messing w/ the time isn't perfect, but is useful (ie: short to > long or long to short). > i liked that if you put the feedback at 100% it locks in, i think when > you put the feedback knob at about 4o'clock allows you to continue to enter > stuff to the delay-a handy option. > i didn't use the sound on sound which is more of a sample-based > option-didn't use b/c i generally don't "STOMP" on my pedals-use mostly by hand.... > i also liked the reverse delay, also very handy and useful. > the tape delays were good, and gave a good approx. of the echoplex > messing w/ time, not as exact as actual sounds i've heard (think tommy bolin or > steve stevens etc), but decent. > > i would think that if the x-delay is placed before the boss rc-2, you > could do crazy delay maniplations and then capture them to the rc-2 to play > over, etc..... > s---- > ps-i should qualify that my xdelay is put away now in favor of using a > digitech rp150 (which has 5 sec of delay) and my boss dd20. the rp150 is > their new multieffects box, not a delay persay, but is handy. i was playing > around w/ the analog delay on it the other night and it gets some nice > twisted sounds.... > > > --------------------------------- > TV dinner still cooling? > Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. -- Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 12:09:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 028DF3BEC1; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:09:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45E6C25F.7040608@addcom.de> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:09:03 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What do you think is necessary in order to have an excellentcomposition? References: <0db301c756b5$de9e63e0$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <0db301c756b5$de9e63e0$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:09:07 +0000 (UTC) Krispen Hartung wrote: > "X is red" and "X is Good" are entirely different. One we can > verify, the other is empty. Unfortunately language is sometimes used in an unprecise way. Depending on the context "X is good" can imply an empty meaningles statement, or is just short for "I like X and think its good, look at it, you might come to the same conclusion". If Krispens says "X is good" (Which he would only do in a context where the other part can't missunderstand it) I would replace it with the long sentence. If a virtuoso guitar teacher says Al DiMeola is a better guitar player than me adding "Thats what I call a good guitarist", I'd understand it as a comparison of technical skills etc... And if you listen to the collection of "Thats what I call music", you know that statement is just meaningless bullshit, though its stated as a personal view of things --- its obviously not... Yes Krispen I totally agree to your view, I just added some examplesof how all the confusion can come up... I'd consider Wittgenstein a good reading on the topic as well... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 12:19:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D974F3BEC1; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:19:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 453371954 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C75BFB.E5D80C2B" Subject: RE: Why contemporary music sounds terrible Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:19:45 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7202135F20@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Why contemporary music sounds terrible Thread-Index: Acdb++XWyjw8YjGDQW29BSTl9IeiNg== From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2007 12:19:45.0338 (UTC) FILETIME=[E5C859A0:01C75BFB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:19:47 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C75BFB.E5D80C2B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> This is my current favorite "radio" << =20 I have three sony cd-jukebox things at home, each with 400 discs. faced = with so little prospect of finding time to enjoy the fruits of my = avaricious purchasing, I bought a thing called a "slingbox", & hooked = two of the machines up to it, so that they crossfade/shuffle from my = collection, totally at random. then I pointed an old dv camera at the = front of them so I can see what they're doing. thus, I can see & hear my = own cd collection being played 24/7, wherever I can get on the internet. = sadly, it only supports one user at a time,but one day I might have the = web chops to stream the buggers properly & publish a link. folks ask me = why I don't just get an i-pod or something similar- I guess I'm just = old-fashioned. =20 today the randomiser seems to be fixated on king crimson, the smiths & = sonic youth. yesterday it was yes, bob dylan & hawkwind. all that's = missing is a friendly knowledgable voice every now & then, but there are = some bill hicks recordings in there, so..... =20 duncan. =20 =20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C75BFB.E5D80C2B Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 >> This is my = current=20 favorite "radio"  <<
 
I have three sony cd-jukebox = things at=20 home, each with 400 discs. faced with so little prospect of finding time = to=20 enjoy the fruits of my avaricious purchasing, I bought a thing called a=20 "slingbox", & hooked two of the machines up to it, so that they=20 crossfade/shuffle from my collection, totally at random. then I pointed = an old=20 dv camera at the front of them so I can see what they're doing. = thus, I can=20 see & hear my own cd collection being played 24/7, wherever I can = get on the=20 internet. sadly, it only supports one user at a time,but one day I might = have=20 the web chops to stream the buggers properly & publish a link. folks = ask me=20 why I don't just get an i-pod or something similar- I guess I'm just=20 old-fashioned.
 
today the randomiser seems to = be fixated=20 on king crimson, the smiths & sonic youth. yesterday it was yes, bob = dylan & hawkwind. all that's missing is a friendly knowledgable = voice=20 every now & then, but there are some bill hicks recordings in there, = so.....
 
duncan.  
 
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C75BFB.E5D80C2B-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 12:21:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B18A3BED0; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:21:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 530911099 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Immersive sound Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:21:19 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7202135F21@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Immersive sound Thread-Index: Acdb/B3AH+1X7BNeR9CSXoh+S8gmgw== From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2007 12:21:19.0381 (UTC) FILETIME=[1DD62C50:01C75BFC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:21:21 +0000 (UTC) >>Anyway, talk about immersive! Dan Ash White Plains, NY<< you aren't the danny ash from bauhaus are you? :-) duncan. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 12:22:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D94853BEB9; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <005301c75bfc$52eb0a50$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <053301c75bb5$3de3dca0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Subject: Re: Why contemporary music sounds terrible Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:22:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 12:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Re: Radio station compression! I'm remembering back to 1975-6, when I was at college for the first time with my first 'real' stereo. 20W RMS sounds different in a 9x12 linoleum-floored room when you've been used to your larger, carpeted bedroom at home - duh! - and I was only slightly prepared for this by working in a stereo store before going to school. This change of locale was also in terms of the kind of radio one could get (the difference between WQIV 'The Quadfather' or WNEW-FM in NYC, and the local station in Winston-Salem, NC was more than noticeable!): the midrange was particularly limited. Every Sunday night the NC station would run a newly-released album; and one time it was Robin Trower's "For Earth Below".. I recorded the album off-radio, and had listened to the tape for a week or two before buying it. The difference in dynamics was really something noticeable, for instance snare drums with some reverb on them would continually hit a kind of audio ceiling. Another example of this was the beginning of that old chestnut "Rollercoaster". On the same station in Winston-Salem, what might have been normalization (?), one could hear the guitar riff separately from its reverb, and all were washed out by the kick-bass when it hit. In NYC when I heard this on the radio nothing of the sort happened. So I suspect that, in the beginnings of FM, all of the above affectations were up to the engineers at the station-in-question; while, in our ClearChannel universe, All Must Be The Same. One thing I thought I should bring up since it hasn't been as yet: The possibility that studio engineers are putting everything up to near-0db in order to not only do mixing on a less competency-required basis, but compete with the commercials, which are loud enough at times to knock the Mute setting off altogether. As we know, after all, commercials are FAR more important to executives than the mere fodder-bait they play between them, aka music. Stephen Goodman * * Cartoons about DVDs and Stuff * http://www.earthlight.net/HiddenTrack * The Loop Of The Week since 1996! * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 14:16:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE4EC3BED3; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:16:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45E6E021.9020300@addcom.de> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:16:01 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Well OT Re: What do you think is necessary in order to have an excellentcomposition? References: <200702211505109.SM02192@quahome> <0c9e01c75643$0e472690$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45DD72AF.30500@tiscali.co.uk> <0cd601c75696$5ca2e150$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45DDD609.9020801@tiscali.co.uk> <0da401c756b1$a275d5a0$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45DE13B1.5080107@tiscali.co.uk> <0e1901c756d4$0bcae410$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45DE9474.5090008@tiscali.co.uk> <10b001c75739$d8ad0ac0$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45DEE2DA.3090909@tiscali.co.uk> <20070223075955.s8dwb80iqso88gwg@69.89.21.76> In-Reply-To: <20070223075955.s8dwb80iqso88gwg@69.89.21.76> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:16:06 +0000 (UTC) kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com wrote: > Philosophy is a noble pursuit, to be sure. Philosophy doesn't help me > to work out a difficult key change, though. :) It might though, but more likely indirect. Maybe you find out that being locked into thinking in keys is the main problem and finally you are able to break old rotten rules exactly at a point where it makes sense... Philosophy is the key to break free... (and I should switch to poetry...;-) Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 14:23:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A3473BEDB; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45E6E1E9.2070204@addcom.de> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 15:23:37 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Well OT Re: What do you think is necessary in order to have an excellentcomposition? References: <45df03f6.33d687a6.5409.ffff953d@mx.google.com> <112001c75763$d8ac5560$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <112001c75763$d8ac5560$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Krispen Hartung wrote: > violator of Occam's Razor. That shall be the name of my next band, and I shall make better music no doubt... (Its probably enough just to imagine it, and it will be better than anything this world has heard so far... ;-) Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 15:09:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 469FA3BED5; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:09:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=lVkabTj1dM+e49QwOBd5HRDGIIvOFYnXXKhukTJ5RRKcP0XbjsYJrezSiEKnXF/DaOgQUElFjOC3at3ooTC644uEl/cltRXfm9v0zaFreWRor9MrJI42hqSggQUOt2Hk9ELJSgmJuAohVFj5JDSLsUI+la4mgwCMktybIWM7f30= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=rWQ92pybZ2nEIyed6tRqnjhS2g43v4i6Odf57arsViKE3IWxn3by7x8xtTkHng3Yf2DHTcWuUP3LYk2l8BtlYqowUbunSRf0kHjCTLpu5Z4Snq3CNkAPNYlegWDDUgkoHZvOc0ajmDqNp4Hrd24E4ulKFpWomDFFaox/sdmiJuY= Message-ID: <55e79c0d0703010709y2633a5a1i8b20896402659a53@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:09:09 -0600 From: "Dan Katayama" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: the side effects of looping MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6342_30277805.1172761749112" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:09:20 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_6342_30277805.1172761749112 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I've gotten so used to "looping" music that it's now really a part of "my sound". It's a way for me to express what I am feeling in its purest form. I don't really think about what I'm doing, I don't calculate, so if I can just get a moment of what I feel on tape, I'm pretty happy. But from an instrumentation perspective, or creative aspect, I lose the opportunity to "push the envelope" with my music. And that is actually my choice. I want to leave my music in its most natural form possible, mistakes and all. But I still wanted to put myself in a situation where I had no control. So I joined a band on the side. A kind of wierd rock band. And I feel out of control each time I play with them, and it has been exciting as hell. But I've come to notice, that I've lost the ability to "write" with a band. If they give me an idea, I can contribute, but to sit there and "write" spontaneously has been difficult. Because I'm still thinking in layers..I'm thinking slow...and somehow I've lost something. Do any of you guys know what I'm talking about? -- kosukeweb http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 ------=_Part_6342_30277805.1172761749112 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I've gotten so used to "looping" music that it's now really a part of "my sound".
It's a way for me to express what I am feeling in its purest form.  I don't really think about what I'm doing,
I don't calculate, so if I can just get a moment of what I feel on tape, I'm pretty happy.

But from an instrumentation perspective, or creative aspect, I lose the opportunity to "push the envelope" with my music.
And that is actually my choice.  I want to leave my music in its most natural form possible, mistakes and all.
But I still wanted to put myself in a situation where I had no control.
So I joined a band on the side.  A kind of wierd rock band.  And I feel out of control each time I play with them,
and it has been exciting as hell.
But I've come to notice, that I've lost the ability to "write" with a band.
If they give me an idea, I can contribute, but to sit there and "write" spontaneously has been difficult.
Because I'm still thinking in layers..I'm thinking slow...and somehow I've lost something.

Do any of you guys know what I'm talking about?


--
kosukeweb
http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 ------=_Part_6342_30277805.1172761749112-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 15:15:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D08043BED0; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1172761444.45e6eb645c8c6@webmail.m3ch.net> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:04:04 -0600 From: Mech To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New live sampling/looping/delay effect MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 203.209.71.226 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:15:21 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Os : > > I've just released a beta of a new plugin which can do some pretty > powerful and unusual looping type stuff: > > http://www.collective.co.uk/expertsleepers/xfadelooper.html Os, you never cease to amaze me: this rocks just so hard! In the past, I've posted about how much fun I've had with the previous versions of Crossfade Loop Synth, especially assigning the sample start and end points to the AXYZ dome on the Alesis Photon controller and manipulating the loop points in realtime. The only thing that ever nagged at me with the instrument was that it only worked on pre-recorded sample files. I'd be playing around with a sample and would wish I could do the same while looping realtime input. Any half-dozen times I've almost written off a feature request for this (or, conversely, for similar loop point manipulation capabilities in Augustus Loop), but then sloughed it off thinking, "nah, I gotta be the only guy around interested in this". Now, here comes the Crossfade Loop Synth Effect, which sounds like exactly the functionality I would've requested. I'm off on travel (again!) but I'm going to add this one as a regular in my little arsenal just as soon as I get back. Bravo! Like I said, Os, you rock!!! --m. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 15:29:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 427013BEDE; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Idx0W8vXpCG90DLxPs4Lhy9Yv0uEnQjBhTBjCXpahd2UepR8SWBIy7BUW6rJUo+nLsUU6cHPm8xcKaaM2HvvNxvnMB8KsWyjDpVuFTs4t5sBJHnEEpuE3+5kKmr4CpbZjqeTaMZC7cuHWRdvtGjT3KSdDns5P3w46477kPASQaQ=; X-YMail-OSG: UBUXIy4VM1kjz.TAyFaz1LwMyK5it7ta9nsdO74m.YxVBqYIrDh2CiWGNDks7Ki9msh21YpMCvc3ZU8sC0RJN1N0XU9ukcdKQ2xdt5xRV.jfY06YLwqrVTCL1LbPOH_elrw2yw-- Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:28:22 +0100 (CET) From: rune fagereng Subject: From making music (home) - to giving out music (cd-itunes) - and getting gigs To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com, midiguitar@yahoogroups.com, repeater-users@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <288249.32648.qm@web26204.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6TSiAC.A.n3C.IFv5FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! If you are an amature ( I am) making music (at home) and hoping to get the music out to people - and maybe then be able to play this music at gigs - does anyone of you have tips on how to do this - if one are not in the position to get a record-deal. Are there record -labels that are into the things we (loopers) do ? Isnt it like this - if one dont get the music out - there will not be any gigs - and then the music stays inside my four walls. Are there ways different ways to; 1. Making cd without a record-deal? What do you guys do ? -covers- print - distributing - rights - and so on.... 2. Is it possible to have ones music (without record-deal) on Itunes ? How are one to get from making music at home to: getting the music on cd - the getting it out there (itunes) - how to getting it know - thats it out there - and then maybe getting gigs ? Not that I have the music ready - but how are one to get this "snowball running" ? Any thoughts ? Sorry for my poor english. best regards Rune F. _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 15:37:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20D663BEDA; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:37:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1172762791.45e6f0a727e07@webmail.m3ch.net> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:26:31 -0600 From: Mech To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, andy butler Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Immersive sound References: <200702222247500.SM03324@quahome> <0EE64244-B2E4-4997-9406-55BA4CFA859E@gmail.com> <45DF09F7.4050702@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <45DF09F7.4050702@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 203.209.71.226 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:37:48 +0000 (UTC) Quoting andy butler : > Travis Hartnett wrote: > > Have you tried the three speaker setup described by Eno (I think it's > > in the liner notes for "On Land")? > > Yep, it's on the back cover of Ambient 4 on land.... > > One unsatisfactory thing about this setup is that it's assymetric, the > 3rd speaker is in phase with one of the main speakers and not the other > so there's always a hole in the surround. Sorry to chime in a bit late here (sporadic net access while out on the road; i'm about 600 messages behind right now), but I'm wondering if one of the variations I've used for this might help with this problem. A lot of the cheeseball "vocal zapper" effects (used for things like preparing karaoke tracks) use pretty much the same principal to function. Their designers figure that the main vocal is going to be dead center 99% of the time, so they use polarity differences and a bit of EQ to eliminate the programming in the center of the channel. When summed into mono, this can work pretty well for generating the signal for a third back speaker. I never really noticed a hole in the surround using one of these, although I wasn't really looking, so YMMV. Relatedly, I've also had some luck with increasing the stereo spread using only two speakers and one of the old Crate SRS mini-units. They come up cheap on Ebay occasionally, and while they don't really go so far as to create a real 3D sound image, they do increase the apparent stereo separation. --m. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 15:47:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61C783BEE1; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=qqbf/AXojn05gEusApOtgYfQawx7dBRmk+aoKsTdPvPaZ90ljMR89XStTAO39HVIGEfiKUXzgWJORppkqFEnA8IeHZJGGlGQiI8NOhuI9j1A0/KIgxgQphAhMD3JbgGCHzzsSWCGWG2IaHSGm7DhBHYbeuWWUOvMEt4ZauZWfH8= ; Message-ID: <20070301154742.57506.qmail@web34311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: e2ygFKUVM1n5UJK_bwqL_dxWIKL9K54PTS2Hr0SeZHE5Ds7OHe9qdWCsVF9xPscs.UEuuZRkg2IFyB2_sGy7c.AEFPscgJqcX6rUBllni.RauUCA9WsObmdCxKydzYuXdDsVDVrufXFkr50- Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:47:42 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Kupferschmid Subject: Re: the side effects of looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <55e79c0d0703010709y2633a5a1i8b20896402659a53@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:47:45 +0000 (UTC) I kind of do, but you have to try to make a part of what you do a part of the band sound. I've always thought thet way, in the sense that I think in layers, but mine was more of an orchestrated thing, I can hear the complete song in my head. really, all you have to do is learn how to break those layers down into what would be your part, then let the others figure out their parts, while you'll have no control over what they come up with, you know your part, and who knows, if you think about it, you can still use those layers to augment the rest of the band. Think of the studio as one giant looper, the only difference being you are looping in doses and not in real time. Does this make much sense? --- Dan Katayama wrote: > I've gotten so used to "looping" music that it's now > really a part of "my > sound". > It's a way for me to express what I am feeling in > its purest form. I don't > really think about what I'm doing, > I don't calculate, so if I can just get a moment of > what I feel on tape, I'm > pretty happy. > > But from an instrumentation perspective, or creative > aspect, I lose the > opportunity to "push the envelope" with my music. > And that is actually my choice. I want to leave my > music in its most > natural form possible, mistakes and all. > But I still wanted to put myself in a situation > where I had no control. > So I joined a band on the side. A kind of wierd > rock band. And I feel out > of control each time I play with them, > and it has been exciting as hell. > But I've come to notice, that I've lost the ability > to "write" with a band. > If they give me an idea, I can contribute, but to > sit there and "write" > spontaneously has been difficult. > Because I'm still thinking in layers..I'm thinking > slow...and somehow I've > lost something. > > Do any of you guys know what I'm talking about? > > > -- > kosukeweb > http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 15:55:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFC803BEDB; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:55:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <006e01c75c1a$08320770$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <0db301c756b5$de9e63e0$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45E6C25F.7040608@addcom.de> Subject: Re: What do you think is necessary in order to have an excellentcomposition? Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 08:55:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:55:29 +0000 (UTC) Wow! I leave for a business trip and come back to see that Stefan has carried the torch on. Excellent. I'll just read here and not respond in detail. I've already taken this offline with Andy because the strings have become overally technical for the list. Interesting topic. Wittgenstein...oh yes, some of my favorite readings (The Investigations, Blue Book, Brown Book, etc)....the real originator of logical atomism and language games in my opinion. For him X is Red is also a logical atom, but the confusion from subjectivity is eliminated by what he called an "ostensive definition". So basically, all this fuzziness is worked on in human evolution of language. Don't know what I mean by "red"? Here, let me point at this particular patch of red...."THIS is red"...and I do this over and over again with different shade of what I think of as red. Eventually, we can communicate, without observing the exact same thing, and without having to posit any objective data. It's worked out based on subjective sensory perceptions and our common "wiring". Whether we see slightly different shades is irrelevant. Our brains our designed so that we eventually establish a common understand and language, so that if I tell someone to go to the store and buy me a red t-shirt, chances are they will come back with a shirt I consider red. It may not be my favorite shade, but chances are I will agree it is red. Human beings would have perished a long time ago if we didn't have this built in ability to generalize our language. Wittgenstein uses this interesting examples with the slab of wood...he starts with this really primitive, cave man style of language to illustrate how we build our language and understanding of terms like "red". I point at the slab and grunt, "Slab!!!". Do I mean the color, the object, the shape? It takes a while to determine this based on the process of elimination. Eventually we build up this complex language based on sense data...and eventually, in my opinion, an abuse of the language in some areas, such as the term "Beauty". Some philosophers have designated this usage as a fallacy, sometimes called the fallacy of false substantiation. It is when we assume just because there is a word that is a general noun, that it must somehow denote an actual entity. In other words, folks use the term "beauty", but doing so doesn't mean there is an actual thing out there we could say is beauty...unless we are Platonists. It turns out that many modern philosophers and linguists agree that these terms don't have any object associated with them, but are constructed to be truncated version of many other terms and observations. It is an abbreviated way of saying something else. Imagine if everything time I said something was beautiful, I had to qualify exactly what I meant down the specific logical atoms that denoted my owen sensory data or memories of sensory data. It would take hours and we'd never be able to communicate. It's easier to just use the word and assume we have a common understand in absence of there being an actual "Thing" out there called beauty. Anyone remember the remake of the Planet of the Apes, where the head ape pries open Taylor's mouth and ask where is his soul? Very similar topic....albeit a very controversial one. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Tiedje" To: Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 5:09 AM Subject: Re: What do you think is necessary in order to have an excellentcomposition? > Krispen Hartung wrote: >> "X is red" and "X is Good" are entirely different. One we can verify, the >> other is empty. > > Unfortunately language is sometimes used in an unprecise way. Depending on > the context "X is good" can imply an empty meaningles statement, or is > just short for "I like X and think its good, look at it, you might come to > the same conclusion". If Krispens says "X is good" (Which he would only do > in a context where the other part can't missunderstand it) I would replace > it with the long sentence. If a virtuoso guitar teacher says Al DiMeola is > a better guitar player than me adding "Thats what I call a good > guitarist", I'd understand it as a comparison of technical skills etc... > And if you listen to the collection of "Thats what I call music", you know > that statement is just meaningless bullshit, though its stated as a > personal view of things --- its obviously not... > > Yes Krispen I totally agree to your view, I just added some examplesof how > all the confusion can come up... > I'd consider Wittgenstein a good reading on the topic as well... > > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > --_____-----------|-------------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 15:58:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 261FC3BEDC; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:58:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=G4Blgp51nYuM3S0Xcm+qCXoKADhXWaeZexgH21LjH+PKgD61CpaUwnbey89i96f3aGrc8/WeLKx+pujA4qa1w+CehFpahruoL6I4VX1N3ur6A4MBhqv/bbA39iTNrJPmCN0aQ71LCofmFUWnNSCIhzeaOUgr2a7RIpxEHD3AEIQ=; X-YMail-OSG: l2brgy8VM1kAlaUHnYdsIzOOkFazaoU.ew9oGNQtD6szsyizetZ9kFVjcIVhidfAFYCUcsP4JRSSfIcT9aW.MtZOEQYqMNDGgzeb6_l74WKGbwJTDv_td8dzK4mrVAWjRAAeJteRQ1G.v0Q- Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:58:01 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Kupferschmid Subject: RE: Why contemporary music sounds terrible To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7202135F20@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <814161.25082.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:58:03 +0000 (UTC) Speaking of iPods, and the like, I noticed my Zen Micro has a Smart Sound feature, which for all in tents and purposes, is a compressor. It was meant to use as a volume attenuator between song mastered as different levels. Does it work? Kinda. it tends to keep songs from clipping, but I still hear distinct volume differences between Led Zeppelin's No Quarter, Jean Luc-Ponty's Cosmic Messenger, and Rebel Meets Rebel(which is, by the way, mastered very LOUD). I love my mp3 player, because I can now listen to music everywhere, but I lose the dynamics and purity of the songs, the Tool album, 10,000 Days sounds better on the cd than it does on the mp3 player, then again, any of my records still sounds better than the cds, minus the crackle. --- "Goddard, Duncan" wrote: > >> This is my current favorite "radio" << > > I have three sony cd-jukebox things at home, each > with 400 discs. faced with so little prospect of > finding time to enjoy the fruits of my avaricious > purchasing, I bought a thing called a "slingbox", & > hooked two of the machines up to it, so that they > crossfade/shuffle from my collection, totally at > random. then I pointed an old dv camera at the front > of them so I can see what they're doing. thus, I can > see & hear my own cd collection being played 24/7, > wherever I can get on the internet. sadly, it only > supports one user at a time,but one day I might have > the web chops to stream the buggers properly & > publish a link. folks ask me why I don't just get an > i-pod or something similar- I guess I'm just > old-fashioned. > > today the randomiser seems to be fixated on king > crimson, the smiths & sonic youth. yesterday it was > yes, bob dylan & hawkwind. all that's missing is a > friendly knowledgable voice every now & then, but > there are some bill hicks recordings in there, > so..... > > duncan. > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 16:16:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDF903BEE9; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [216.113.128.239] X-Identified-User: {864:box76.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:webmail from 216.113.128.239} Message-ID: <20070301101649.2juzklqle04kcw88@69.89.21.76> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:16:49 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Well OT Re: What do you think is necessary in order to have an excellentcomposition? References: <200702211505109.SM02192@quahome> <0c9e01c75643$0e472690$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45DD72AF.30500@tiscali.co.uk> <0cd601c75696$5ca2e150$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45DDD609.9020801@tiscali.co.uk> <0da401c756b1$a275d5a0$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45DE13B1.5080107@tiscali.co.uk> <0e1901c756d4$0bcae410$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45DE9474.5090008@tiscali.co.uk> <10b001c75739$d8ad0ac0$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45DEE2DA.3090909@tiscali.co.uk> <20070223075955.s8dwb80iqso88gwg@69.89.21.76> <45E6E021.9020300@addcom.de> In-Reply-To: <45E6E021.9020300@addcom.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Stefan Tiedje : > Maybe you find out that > being locked into thinking in keys is the main problem and finally you > are able to break old rotten rules exactly at a point where it makes > sense... Interesting point. I have always found key signatures to be confining and I haven't composed with standard notation since the mid 80's. I prefer a piano roll editor. My only need for standard notation is so I can learn the music and play it myself. 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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 16:44:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67DF13BED3; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [216.113.128.239] X-Identified-User: {864:box76.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:webmail from 216.113.128.239} Message-ID: <20070301104453.tvejz6vxtwkk4cc4@69.89.21.76> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 10:44:53 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What do you think is necessary in order to have an excellentcomposition? References: <0db301c756b5$de9e63e0$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45E6C25F.7040608@addcom.de> <006e01c75c1a$08320770$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <006e01c75c1a$08320770$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:44:56 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Krispen Hartung : > Imagine if everything time I said something was > beautiful, I had to qualify exactly what I meant down the specific > logical atoms that denoted my owen sensory data or memories of sensory > data. It would take hours and we'd never be able to communicate. It's > easier to just use the word and assume we have a common understand in > absence of there being an actual "Thing" out there called beauty. This point is well-taken: that a word such as "beauty" is a shorthand =20 that we can use to communicate with the presumption that you and I =20 have enough in common that our respective approaches to "beauty" are =20 similar. Having worked with live organ/choral music, a "good" acoustic suggests =20 a live space with reflective surfaces and enough reverb to carry the =20 sound without destroying clarity. A "poor" space would be one that is =20 "dead" -- that is, a space with carpet, acoustical tile, and absorbent =20 properties. One time a live-sound person commented to me that he had dealt with a =20 lot of "bad" rooms. I asked him, "What to you is a bad room?" And =20 his answer: "A room that has reverb." Thus, when someone tells you they want to deliver to you a "good" or =20 "beautiful" product, you might want to investigate exactly what they =20 mean to avoid an unpleasant surprise. :) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 18:00:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8F003BEDF; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:00:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00be01c75c2b$725f5d30$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <200702211505109.SM02192@quahome> <0c9e01c75643$0e472690$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45DDBF8F.4040104@mhorse.com> <0d2b01c756a1$6772d210$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45DDCD43.2020600@mhorse.com> <0d4a01c756a5$43885830$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45E69BDC.1080504@addcom.de> Subject: Re: What do you think is necessary in order to have an excellentcomposition? Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:00:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: <0db7uC.A.jXB.qSx5FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 18:00:10 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stefan Tiedje" > Krispen Hartung wrote: >> Absolutely, especially when discussing with one's significant other. >> The last thing I would say at a romantic dinner is, "Dear, let me >> tell you about how I think the term 'beauty' is meaningless...[insert >> sound of plate flying through air and annihilating face with filet >> mignone]" :) > > This vision should lead you directly to the (context sensitive) meaning of > the word beauty. That's right. In fact, I rarely ever use the term. I find it easier to cut to the chase and just say what I mean, which is to clarify what I like or makes me feel good. My ultimate goal is to communicate in such a way that I dispense with all value language...no good, bad, beautiful, etc...just descriptive statements that describe how I feel, what I observe, etc. It's not always possible to do this in complex settings, so the abbreviated, albeit nonsensical evaluative term has to work. It's a lesser of two "evils"....heh heh....just kidding....but that is an example. I don't believe in a thing such as evil, or that "evil" denotes any real attribute in the world. But when I say "lesser of two evils" it is a truncated way to say something that boils down to non-value based language for me. So, one might ask me here, am I also an ethical non-cognitivist? Most certainly. Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 19:11:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3140F3BED9; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:11:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1563905042.1172776300326.JavaMail.root@fepweb12> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:11:40 -0800 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: the side effects of looping Cc: Dan Katayama MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 66.169.252.252 by mail.charter.net; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:11:39 -0500 X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:11:45 +0000 (UTC) Dan said, > Do any of you guys know what I'm talking about? Heheheh. From personal experience, I can only wish I did.=20 Since I could never sing and play at the same time (even now after 45 years= of guitaring and 25 years of loping) I never really got into "songs" and s= uch -- as far as my own playing goes anyway. I love a good "song" as much as the next person. But it's always been beyon= d me to put one together -- or at least to do so AND to perform it. I've been looping now for just a few years short of half as long as I've be= en alive. I started looping mostly because it seemed to fit into my limitations and t= he way my brain naturally works. I organise "tunes" and "compositions" in a sort of sideways to normal manne= r anyway -- if I do so at all (even when I'm not looping). Mostly I just extemporize. I can try to understand a little bit how somone could get "out of the habit= " of doing things a certain way because of looping. But mostly I have only experienced benefits from the practice. I can't lose a facility that I never actually had. I admire the heck out of people who can write a good song though -- most of= all because I can't. Just thought I'd toss in my 2 cents. Cheers, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?p= layListId=3D6378076=20 http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ---- Dan Katayama wrote:=20 > I've gotten so used to "looping" music that it's now really a part of "my > sound". > It's a way for me to express what I am feeling in its purest form. I don= 't > really think about what I'm doing, > I don't calculate, so if I can just get a moment of what I feel on tape, = I'm > pretty happy. >=20 > But from an instrumentation perspective, or creative aspect, I lose the > opportunity to "push the envelope" with my music. > And that is actually my choice. I want to leave my music in its most > natural form possible, mistakes and all. > But I still wanted to put myself in a situation where I had no control. > So I joined a band on the side. A kind of wierd rock band. And I feel o= ut > of control each time I play with them, > and it has been exciting as hell. > But I've come to notice, that I've lost the ability to "write" with a ban= d. > If they give me an idea, I can contribute, but to sit there and "write" > spontaneously has been difficult. > Because I'm still thinking in layers..I'm thinking slow...and somehow I'v= e > lost something. >=20 > Do any of you guys know what I'm talking about? >=20 >=20 > --=20 > kosukeweb > http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 19:38:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 751B03BEFB; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:38:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAKK65kVKgAATm2dsb2JhbACDJosFfAIBAQcOBwYdlhoBAQE Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:34:56 -0600 From: mwsmart@insightbb.com Subject: KT Tunstall In-reply-to: <00be01c75c2b$725f5d30$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun Java(tm) System Messenger Express 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ZCEWJFy/HMekub4PDG6fPg)" Content-language: en X-Accept-Language: en Priority: normal References: <200702211505109.SM02192@quahome> <0c9e01c75643$0e472690$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45DDBF8F.4040104@mhorse.com> <0d2b01c756a1$6772d210$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45DDCD43.2020600@mhorse.com> <0d4a01c756a5$43885830$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45E69BDC.1080504@addcom.de> <00be01c75c2b$725f5d30$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:38:59 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_ZCEWJFy/HMekub4PDG6fPg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Wow, check this out!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIO2qpSsUTA Mark Smart http://www.marksmart.net --Boundary_(ID_ZCEWJFy/HMekub4PDG6fPg) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline

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    --Boundary_(ID_ZCEWJFy/HMekub4PDG6fPg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 19:43:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88B4B3BEF6; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:43:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <3F4C19BD-99F6-40EA-AAAE-904B15C705B9@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Zoe Keating Subject: OT, SPAM!! not live looping...but still looped music... 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Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:43:59 +0000 (UTC) Hi Loopers, I'm a SciFi fan and well, given what I know of other computer and/or looping nerds, I'm GUESSING that there might be a few others on this list.... Also, I thought with all the discussion on the list recently about the "music biz", examples of alternative outlets for your music might be of interest. Today is the premier of the internet-only "TV" show, Stranger Things. My song "Exurgency" is the theme music for the show (those of you who've seen me live in the last few months have heard me perform it live). From what I've seen of the show so far its beautifully shot in HD. Like you could touch the characters through your screen. Even if I didn't have music in it, I don't have a TV and I'm excited to have another thing to watch on iTunes. It's free too... Here's a trailer: http://www.southernronin.com/st-ep2-trailer.m4v Here's where to find it: http://www.strangerthings.tv/?page_id=22 http://digg.com/television/ Podcast_First_Episodic_SciFi_Show_in_HD_called_Stranger_Things#c5469885 The first episode goes up tonight at 6pm pacific/ 9pm eastern. Thanks for humoring my spam. looping into the future, Zoe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 20:23:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B88823BED5; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:23:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45E74484.3090200@imt.net> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:24:21 -0800 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: show me your loop setup... References: <6466.77465.qm@web33112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <6466.77465.qm@web33112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <47V2VD.A.ps._Yz5FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:23:27 +0000 (UTC) Hey scott, WOndered if you could check serial numbers on your DK600 units you have there. I had a few in here and was seeing a correlation on the serials as to whether they had poly mode I think. btw can't recall if you got poly mode in yours. I finally got an eprom burner that can make the chips here I think..if I can get it working on my machine right. Reading the manual now... How's everything going? I have a memorymoog on the way! That'll be a fun project hopefully. hehe. Tuning issues. I'm thinking of making a stick on heat sink with a thermal stabilizing circuit in it to preheat all the chips so when you turn it on they're ready to go. -Bob scott hansen wrote: > my old loop setup is here: > > http://launch.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/EccentricLuthierySupportGroup/photos/view/2b58?b=2 > > handmade guitar w/ egg shaker mic in the center for feedback effects- > digitech rp100 > zoom g2 > digitech digidelay to either direct or my amp > > this is when i was moving away from my rack setup (hard to believe i > used to have > a 4 space rack setup w/ stuff before it).... > > my new setup is: roctron silver dragon-zoom g2-digitech rp150 -boss > dd20-out to either digital recorder or marshall 10 watt amp (which i > usually run clean) > simple setup works for me. > man looking at some people's setups w/ the pedals after pedals, > whooooa, i know for > me setups like that would never work, i have the worst luck w/ my gear. > fun to see others setups though. > s--- > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Need Mail bonding? > Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A > > for great tips from Yahoo! Answers > > users. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 20:38:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66A6A3BEE0; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:38:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=afNHRNAU5aD9snQT/Yq+10awX5jbdhRDA7nCMOXY0dDNK/eoA6UykWPR6zqfy1Wx6uOfp/YNVsqdZM/1ITls5y0J9TLnzVNmmhg4WNzEhxf7qjii2xtlOhsvrAs3uZqbVxlTwSf7jH9GPybtARqg3rBZbcEu6mrbOP83dXw30DU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=lZ5ojB/CFKNNgOzx3vdxNQa/tltA282UmUDb0V2XzF0AtR5ysbPvDZpB3mHNpcivCJNDxJrnPvM12t7TNPvdCQtc5FjQH095hZUj90efaEsGe/zSMnKDcstcawXzKm7Efyl1Q2eqSfwkduizILTuzr6dHgRCc/hFSlh/7GNGt7E= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:38:28 +0100 From: "Arne R. Skage jr" Reply-To: arne@skage.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: KT Tunstall In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_68992_22851792.1172781508500" References: <200702211505109.SM02192@quahome> <0c9e01c75643$0e472690$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45DDBF8F.4040104@mhorse.com> <0d2b01c756a1$6772d210$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45DDCD43.2020600@mhorse.com> <0d4a01c756a5$43885830$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45E69BDC.1080504@addcom.de> <00be01c75c2b$725f5d30$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:38:45 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_68992_22851792.1172781508500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline groooooooovy!!!!! 2007/3/1, mwsmart@insightbb.com : > > Wow, check this out!! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIO2qpSsUTA > > > > Mark Smart > > http://www.marksmart.net > -- Arne R. 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    www.skage.com ------=_Part_68992_22851792.1172781508500-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 21:00:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32AB43BEE1; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:00:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=mYZuXixOGuKnjCE1qANZPsizRLrK92n/m7djPMp0R47nGYkEgQf2Ryfd8ADv4m2i; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <11666410.1172782803129.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:00:02 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: KT Tunstall Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48d021adefe74cb5811ef8ac17ac45427b3553614b9f64653b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.45 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:00:06 +0000 (UTC) WOW! you guys are SO twenty oh six -----Original Message----- >From: "Arne R. Skage jr" >Sent: Mar 1, 2007 12:38 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: KT Tunstall > >groooooooovy!!!!! > > > > > >2007/3/1, mwsmart@insightbb.com : >> >> Wow, check this out!! >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIO2qpSsUTA >> >> >> >> Mark Smart >> >> http://www.marksmart.net >> > > > >-- >Arne R. Skage jr. > >91157204 >arne@skage.com >www.skage.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 21:24:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02E413BEDF; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:24:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=I+9syQpitu1cRjKsKYIBl+kbcIo+/lcmW2CuHnG3xOepT9gEZstYZbTJAHTfTg+ww+dOsc1ap3DSs3WUXYvtES+tTXRZ9e8ArZYX5SC00UYxMfAGgUASvIIshS/Y6zp+WxVkOzQ83Uwvvcrjo/2Pjfz445gYx/QYwqK8Jdbyqlg=; X-YMail-OSG: 26MX.DIVM1m5Xwkwo871ikV44G2zGsf3GaOEdFC7A.y28lHRkSzXcTcs_TUufFzvkQ-- Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:24:00 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Playing at Home v. Playing Live To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <46fea78d0702281859k4c4e0431w2e93394441250b9d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <451297.5451.qm@web81313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:24:02 +0000 (UTC) I used to be pure pop music (though kind of on the experimental side influenced by people like The Beatles, XTC, Pink Floyd and Radiohead) and while I found that works in a live situation, I often find my looping doesn't... usually. To the LD members, it does. (I think) but I think we're a different animal here. Truth is, I got tired of performing pop songs live. Most people really want to hear music they know and that sure isn't my original music. I've decided that my loop performances really aren't for live performance in front of an audience either... even though they are pure live performance in a sense. I'm performing the composing and the music at the same time. Wee! Improvising is the best! So while I hope to get my shit together and start playing out from time to time, I find I don't really crave it much. Usually I can't hear myself well, feel like I'm disconnected from the audience because of a mountain of gear... ect. Seems a million times more fun in my home studio looping with my friend Andy. HEY ANDY! If you're reading this it's LOOP NIGHT! A few times a year I say this and usually get no responses, but here goes. Anyone in the SF Bay Area want to come over for some loop'n? Let me know. Mark --- David H wrote: > A member asked me what the difference is between my > home playing and my live > playing, and the answer warrants a new thread. > > Its been my impression that the majority of members > on this list play > "experimental" or "ambient" music. I really enjoy > and appreciate it, too. > Sometimes there is nothing better than flipping > through the list > listening to mp3s you guys have posted. Even so, my > friends sometimes refer > to these styles as artsy fartsy, over their head, > weird and/or boring (no > offense). > > I'm also a big fan of standard folk tunes. And > admittedly, I can't seem to > outgrow popular song structure. I write songs on my > guitar in my rental > house just like the dude next door, with verses, > choruses, lyrics, and I use > chords! ;) My loops are not very complex, I've got a > beat, a rhythm guitar, > some back up vocals, and a few layers here and > there. I originally started > looping because I got sick of trying to put a decent > band together and > decided to be the whole band. Now I play popular > bars and clubs around town, > and they like to hear "songs" that people can sing > and dance to. Boy, that > sentence sure made me seem like a sell out. But read > on: > > Each song I've written has been composed in a very > flexible way. I can pick > up my acoustic and perform without ever plugging in, > but I also leave a > place in every song when I loop it to take it to > places that are > experimental or ambient. I have the dynamic of > performing one song dry, and > the next looped into outer space. Anyway, so I see > the music I make as a > transitional vehicle. From the popular mundane, to > what I like to think of > the fine wines of music, the experimental, and etc. > You can take people who > don't listen to ambient music to places they > wouldn't normally go by > tricking them into thinking they are listening to a > popular song they could > hear on the radio. I give Budweiser drinkers a sip > of Merlot, (that's you > guys). > > When I'm playing at home, its more entertaining to > me, the loops are much > longer and layers much deeper, effects much more > dynamic. I'm experimenting. > But during a performance I tone it down, I sing > catchy tunes so that they > like me, and throw in a few weird, noisy, ambient > phrases to pique their > interest, and so I have a good time too. > > David > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 21:24:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A22453BEDB; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:24:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45E752DA.6030900@imt.net> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:25:30 -0800 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: show me your loop setup... References: <6466.77465.qm@web33112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45E74484.3090200@imt.net> In-Reply-To: <45E74484.3090200@imt.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:24:38 +0000 (UTC) oops..thought I was sending this to scott directly. My apologies. Bob Weigel wrote: > Hey scott, > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 21:38:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D1463BEDA; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:38:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nrqloC0pztDJQ2iy95RNMFYISFYBfwkIObaLti+D4vwuTx5BwtfEWl3AE0gHq0AM7hDZWIpRtAgY5iW06Tiom0dbKYSAMjhQnkLW0NGAYwMVywUKp27G5c/0UuBipUm2sFE+19IIR2uiqV6KJkG4UwwtQHcqbXz2YqqkdPQoCBs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ppEUnlYhO0QXoD6XPzt18u/bhdQqbrHrrBeQvXFQl10Y4bWKVrtzhpldmF3kHf294FIcjThuqKXE3fPwvF0q4W9Jt8vawg+AiZ+CnyzyO8ysCo3M2P1z6VF5EwS5gkBBuM8GGWAdJfeEHyf7k3O4/td47eRQQrNgqobHVMCpsG0= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:38:43 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: From making music (home) - to giving out music (cd-itunes) - and getting gigs In-Reply-To: <288249.32648.qm@web26204.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <288249.32648.qm@web26204.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:38:48 +0000 (UTC) If you want people to hear recordings of your music, make some recordings and give them to people. Burn CDs at home, or post your music online, you don't need a record contract or someone's permission. If you can't afford the necessary hardware, odds are you know someone who can let you make use of theirs. You can ask people to give you money if they like it--that works surprisingly well at the individual level. There are record labels that are interested in off-beat music of the type that many loopers make, but given the small audience for that sort of music, I'm not sure what the compelling reason is to pursue getting signed by them is. You're almost certainly not going to get paid. Yes, you can have your music on iTunes without being signed--you just have to sign up with CDBaby, once you have a CD to sell. If you want to get a gig somewhere, call them up and tell them you'd like to play there. They'll tell you what they want for them to make the decision on whether or not to book you. If you were in the States, they'll probably just ask for a web address where they can hear some samples of your stuff. So, put together a myspace page and upload some stuff, and you're in business in a couple of days. Or burn a few demo CD's if they booking person wants to hear a CD, it doesn't need to have a fancy cover or anything. They're only going to listen to the 30 seconds of a few tracks in most cases. Just make sure your contact information is on every object you ever hand to a booking person--they can lose anything. TravisH On 3/1/07, rune fagereng wrote: > > > Hi ! > > If you are an amature ( I am) making music (at home) > and hoping to get the music out to people - and maybe > then be able to play this music at gigs - does anyone > of you have tips on how to do this - if one are not in > the position to get a record-deal. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 21:46:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 190F93BEDF; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:46:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=rX92/yFxgFJcbxsx/cuz/8yIdAkyqjZ1i93UGRrN2LWdhVpP0uN7V8KR3ciS0P9zUOfhyneqPeAo9J/yQ8t0/lRBWlrMFsAO7CEa3bR8ZxX7whi0kWHrkcq2z8fkBQL58Fms/Lo9o8UZli7kwcXhwEXLd0Dwps/G9/Z+CZhsCeE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=pACPfE8f5/rcu0Zssyki6BVoKeM66llNttwf5zful0ajo6OrP42W1Uz+eAvB8ueeRYCyi7oPkPxfUnNT2h/fMcc0NKfZkQ7lDERZXJoI7LiavMA37Nr+56RcTky+0MJDdxuKbWe+LQwdUZi0LQx6j3bCfWuh0V2f+VE+hRyLjlE= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7B2EFE7F-2AC6-446E-B64A-B26E3A51BDA0@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: From making music (home) - to giving out music (cd-itunes) - and getting gigs Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:45:59 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:46:23 +0000 (UTC) > * From: rune fagereng > > Are there record > -labels that are into the things we (loopers) do ? Yes. But not for the reason of "looping used" as much as for the style and quality of the music. In your country for example you have Eyvind Aarset that uses some looping now and then. But I think his music is rather labeled as "Electro-Jazz" or something similar. > Isnt it like this - if one dont get the music out - > there will not be any gigs No, it's not like that. Normally it is the other way around: you do a lot of gigs and that leads to a chance to have a CD out (commercially sponsored by a record label, the "old school way") > 1. Making cd without a record-deal? What do you guys > do ? > -covers- print - distributing - rights - and so on.... Check the list archives. Many good pressing plants and CDR burning services was recommended some two, three months ago. > 2. Is it possible to have ones music (without > record-deal) on Itunes ? Yes. You can turn directly to one of the aggregating services Apple uses to provide them material. I have used CD Baby once, which worked well, but there are today many services that do not require an issue of printer CDs. I remember there used to be a link from the iTunes web page to a listing. Do some Googling! > How are one to get from making music at home to: > getting the music on cd - the getting it out there > (itunes) - how to getting it know - thats it out there > - and then maybe getting gigs ? Use email and phone. Call up venues and book gigs. Play at festivals that draw people that like the music you make. If you're looking for detailed advices and tricks I can recommend to read at CD Baby as well as subcribing to their Indie Contact Newsletter. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 22:15:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60BF43BED9; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:15:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45E75081.2000206@rhein-zeitung.de> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 23:15:29 +0100 From: Dirk Wilbert User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: KT Tunstall References: <200702211505109.SM02192@quahome> <0c9e01c75643$0e472690$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45DDBF8F.4040104@mhorse.com> <0d2b01c756a1$6772d210$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45DDCD43.2020600@mhorse.com> <0d4a01c756a5$43885830$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45E69BDC.1080504@addcom.de> <00be01c75c2b$725f5d30$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:15:14 +0000 (UTC) Yes! I saw her on TV when she was performing at the SWR New Pop Festival in Germany - and fortunately I had "record" pressed on my video recorder. After that I tried to figure out what kind of gear she was using by rewinding and pressing "pause" again and again.... Trying to find out something about the Akai Headrush I landed on loopers-delight.com. This was when that "looping thing" started for me - got infected... Dirk mwsmart@insightbb.com schrieb: > > Wow, check this out!! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIO2qpSsUTA > > > > Mark Smart > > http://www.marksmart.net > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 22:18:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 18BF03BEDE; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:18:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=BbYiQdwxsBzaMrqkq9ydetSqz1U3dW2QkcuxURyzPS84IhsUc6PuCzfErCVEvPxU/8/L4vtSaMqyvoSYSGL2s5q3mqwRrzDVekJvAP/FWXp5IpCNq9WlZ3fIeYAuAx3tOCevKqFU2H8xNTas6cahKiY+yAROiH5p+ApJR5FUFJk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=pE3qMPfYX55Hziz4oZZyS4lKu3YiY/dRc/Vdxzv2v/clmtVilapA93N+56cKKsK5wfNj+ZI2nFRyAcf0We/xfxTeBYue1zKzIz8Qhf48VVfDEBdv4oUO0/iRz0aDLu1BjeiMhFlCFpHCvvDw1MoC2mrpAI61lxBKLsUHR8axACc= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <74504F07-6045-4AFC-9F8C-92E8F632DEC8@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style posted Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:18:32 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:18:40 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Today I recorded a short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style I like very much. If someone want to listen I put it online here: http://www.looproom.com/audio/city_seventeen.m4a This piece was not produced by live looping (as the guitar piece I posted some days ago) but the feel, the orchestration and the performance attitude is something I have directly learned from practicing looping (at home and at concerts ;-). Back in the days I would have had to compose to come up with this kind of music, but after the recent years of live looping it feels more natural to improvise the parts very quickly (when I succeed in disconnecting my brain a more interesting music is starting to happen). The idea is, as in solo looping, to do "questions and answers", taking on different roles by playing different instruments against each other. The instrument I played here was the EWI 4000s. But in a way I would also like say that Logic makes for a great deal of "the instrument". Logic's synths, sampler functionality and dynamic filtering effects makes it possible to find the sound I have been thinking about for years. To record unquantized MIDI with an EWI into a sequencer of that high resolution is the damn coolest palette IMHO! So this is why I want to daisy-chain a Mac in front of my Mobius looping laptop ;-) per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 22:54:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68E4B3BED3; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:54:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.3.132] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070301221515.27BAE3BEE4@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Seattle Loopfest Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:54:13 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2007 22:54:18.0247 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B013970:01C75C54] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:54:20 +0000 (UTC) Artis,you know the spoonbeing,wants to do a loopfest modelled on the y2k series ,in Seattle in the fall.Anyone on the list from that area interested in helping produce?Anyone have any good connects,ideas for venues,sponsors etc? _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 22:57:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D97273BEDE; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:57:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hcqMDKd9BqaP3Y7vnnl9r9ZobL4bvUJ7TsuazGDfy31tI1HLwm61h0Yk99MRnsgDUldoDczdXD7YLHVGcc4kpwcCan1HgxStkhzPbScmH4HqfOVsHxnwhDMJspL4U+/aPWHTqqvayYX/wIAXhtDBV7RmwZ8pNi7Or6o6RNWaRqs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YxKtMr5hAUpbSpvPfg6rqlpczOKmHKF8lcs72/50C+c8wX2+nnS660pGXwMggvfvSN+2XNZ/mZ4fLnFtJDD/lxXARaItje9yjTLK239Naa6x3hdXvp3LKiq/i9PVMWXAiVoR0HMD70VwG5JRQvzdW/huoz6MVqTuZvaYm2ExkfY= Message-ID: <4cf76a0b0703011457r7ff874e5p34c17dce4f5eb904@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 14:57:50 -0800 From: "miles ward" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Seattle Loopfest In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070301221515.27BAE3BEE4@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 22:57:52 +0000 (UTC) It's Arlis not Artis from what I remember, and I'd love to help, i've got some connections around here :) On 3/1/07, samba - wrote: > > Artis,you know the spoonbeing,wants to do a loopfest modelled on the y2k > series ,in Seattle in the fall.Anyone on the list from that area interested > in helping produce?Anyone have any good connects,ideas for venues,sponsors > etc? > > _________________________________________________________________ > Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. > Intro*Terms > https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117 > > -- ---Miles Ward "The desired effect is what you get, when you improve your interplanetary funksmanship." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 23:05:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F7463BED3; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:05:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <74504F07-6045-4AFC-9F8C-92E8F632DEC8@gmail.com> References: <74504F07-6045-4AFC-9F8C-92E8F632DEC8@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--937905395 Message-Id: <806b233a40226b009bac261a4a518bae@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style posted Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:05:06 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: <1MKPxD.A.KOB.kw15FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:05:09 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--937905395 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed You're the man, Per! I like the bassoon sounding guy in City 17. Is that the EWI? richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 1-Mar-07, at 2:18 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi, > > Today I recorded a short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style I > like very much. If someone want to listen I put it online here: > http://www.looproom.com/audio/city_seventeen.m4a > > This piece was not produced by live looping (as the guitar piece I > posted some days ago) but the feel, the orchestration and the > performance attitude is something I have directly learned from > practicing looping (at home and at concerts ;-). Back in the days I > would have had to compose to come up with this kind of music, but > after the recent years of live looping it feels more natural to > improvise the parts very quickly (when I succeed in disconnecting my > brain a more interesting music is starting to happen). The idea is, as > in solo looping, to do "questions and answers", taking on different > roles by playing different instruments against each other. The > instrument I played here was the EWI 4000s. But in a way I would also > like say that Logic makes for a great deal of "the instrument". > Logic's synths, sampler functionality and dynamic filtering effects > makes it possible to find the sound I have been thinking about for > years. To record unquantized MIDI with an EWI into a sequencer of that > high resolution is the damn coolest palette IMHO! So this is why I > want to daisy-chain a Mac in front of my Mobius looping laptop ;-) > > per > --Apple-Mail-2--937905395 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII You're the man, Per! I like the bassoon sounding guy in City 17. Is that the EWI? Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 1-Mar-07, at 2:18 PM, Per Boysen wrote: Hi, Today I recorded a short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style I like very much. If someone want to listen I put it online here: http://www.looproom.com/audio/city_seventeen.m4a This piece was not produced by live looping (as the guitar piece I posted some days ago) but the feel, the orchestration and the performance attitude is something I have directly learned from practicing looping (at home and at concerts ;-). Back in the days I would have had to compose to come up with this kind of music, but after the recent years of live looping it feels more natural to improvise the parts very quickly (when I succeed in disconnecting my brain a more interesting music is starting to happen). The idea is, as in solo looping, to do "questions and answers", taking on different roles by playing different instruments against each other. The instrument I played here was the EWI 4000s. But in a way I would also like say that Logic makes for a great deal of "the instrument". Logic's synths, sampler functionality and dynamic filtering effects makes it possible to find the sound I have been thinking about for years. To record unquantized MIDI with an EWI into a sequencer of that high resolution is the damn coolest palette IMHO! So this is why I want to daisy-chain a Mac in front of my Mobius looping laptop ;-) per --Apple-Mail-2--937905395-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 23:09:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39DE03BEDF; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [69.84.126.202] X-Originating-Email: [aaronleese@hotmail.com] X-Sender: aaronleese@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: From: "aaron leese" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Seattle Loopfest Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:09:32 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Mar 2007 23:09:34.0006 (UTC) FILETIME=[ACD6F560:01C75C56] Resent-Message-ID: <6JdPFD.A.ThB.v015FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:09:36 +0000 (UTC) I will be living there next fall .... so I can offer some assitance in the form of manual labor, etc. If you need that. Aaron >From: "samba -" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Seattle Loopfest >Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 14:54:13 -0800 > > > Artis,you know the spoonbeing,wants to do a loopfest modelled on the y2k >series ,in Seattle in the fall.Anyone on the list from that area interested >in helping produce?Anyone have any good connects,ideas for venues,sponsors >etc? > >_________________________________________________________________ >Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. >Intro*Terms >https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117 > _________________________________________________________________ Rates near 39yr lows! $430K Loan for $1,399/mo - Paying Too Much? Calculate new payment http://www.lowermybills.com/lre/index.jsp?sourceid=lmb-9632-18226&moid=7581 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 23:17:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E9B023BEE4; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:17:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dErp8vtqACQk6dpIxcQyhhJ/CkXkWTncIQac4P+CW9zAGnbyWAy5LcX9gxUNe3nfNCYMbnFTz8D4x2V3WFHg2XETTp41+5QJFZM0JYVoa6qQeTXY5ZMg7597hJjN3DqRdKh8jVgIPZLi/vyt+GAYpyh7V2GYGo9dZQy3J5tnslA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=mAXNX2jNUp9i7qsGGxgadRgHnId+bn4ReHK2gdKD437nOhBvRqDjY43e/tu12pIK9plZeVDDdpFOGePmr4xt/lOAx1wQke6Vd6xOBIrKT0Z7lrUVHNTnhHM024IK93jyIJruMO94Xw3t8eDFsGNC+ex0EiHiL3cOJVYBlLokHwI= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:17:12 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Seattle Loopfest In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070301221515.27BAE3BEE4@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:17:17 +0000 (UTC) How many performers are you thinking? Gallery 1412 would be the first venue I'd consider: http://www.gallery1412.org/ TravisH Seattle On 3/1/07, samba - wrote: > > Artis,you know the spoonbeing,wants to do a loopfest modelled on the y2k > series ,in Seattle in the fall.Anyone on the list from that area interested > in helping produce?Anyone have any good connects,ideas for venues,sponsors > etc? > > _________________________________________________________________ > Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. > Intro*Terms > https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 1 23:25:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFFF33BED5; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:25:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01db01c75c58$e7640e00$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: Seattle Loopfest Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:25:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: <9Co6KC.A.ylC.tD25FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:25:33 +0000 (UTC) A looping fest in Seattle? That would be outstanding!!! That is just a short flight for me. Sony Felberg is in Seattle, I believe. I may still be lurking around on the list. I'll send you his email shortly. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "samba -" To: Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 3:54 PM Subject: Seattle Loopfest > > Artis,you know the spoonbeing,wants to do a loopfest modelled on the y2k > series ,in Seattle in the fall.Anyone on the list from that area > interested in helping produce?Anyone have any good connects,ideas for > venues,sponsors etc? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 00:02:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F19C03BED8; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 00:02:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45E76995.1080907@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:02:29 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Seattle Loopfest References: <01db01c75c58$e7640e00$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <01db01c75c58$e7640e00$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 00:02:35 +0000 (UTC) The date of the Santa Cruz Loopfest should, of course, be taken into serious consideration, since I'm sure a number of the same people would be interested in attending or playing both and it wouldn't be to the advantage of either to diminish the already-specialized audience. Obviously they shouldn't be the same weekend, at the very least. On the other hand, if they were just a week apart or something, people (like me) traveling from some distance could try to attend both. Santa Cruz and Seattle are on the same coast and probably not too expensive to fly between. Or maybe it'd be better to space them out more...hmm... Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 00:03:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85C183BEDA; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 00:03:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <4cf76a0b0703011457r7ff874e5p34c17dce4f5eb904@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070301221515.27BAE3BEE4@arsenic.violacea.com> <4cf76a0b0703011457r7ff874e5p34c17dce4f5eb904@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--934382361 Message-Id: <63d57ecc5598550e614f5e92fd770e06@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: Seattle Loopfest Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 16:03:49 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 00:03:55 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--934382361 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Mileage! I think it IS Artis. I wish I could help but the latest is I'll be gone at that time. Latest word is touring starts heavy and hard in May and I think I'll be pretty crunched for the duration.... BUT MAYBE! I'd love to do some looping with YOU there Miles! Oh boy. We could raise a serious ruckus!!! Who knows? I might get fed up and quit... or get fed up and get fired. Or be overfed and get too fat to get through the auditorium doors. But for now it looks like I'll be pretty jammed up to the wall. Artis is looping? Oh man. I'd love to see THAT! Any of you in Toronto I'll be there 10 March (Canadian Music Week) with Hayley Sales at Healey's Blue Jay Way. We go on at 11. No looping - just straight stuff on my end. I'll need a lot of coffee but I think I can stay awake for it. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 1-Mar-07, at 2:57 PM, miles ward wrote: > It's Arlis not Artis from what I remember, and I'd love to help, i've > got some connections around here :) > > On 3/1/07, samba - wrote: >> >> Artis,you know the spoonbeing,wants to do a loopfest modelled on >> the y2k >> series ,in Seattle in the fall.Anyone on the list from that area >> interested >> in helping produce?Anyone have any good connects,ideas for >> venues,sponsors >> etc? >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a >> month. >> Intro*Terms >> https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp? >> product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27 >> f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117 >> >> > > > -- > ---Miles Ward > > "The desired effect is what you get, when you improve your > interplanetary funksmanship." > --Apple-Mail-1--934382361 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Mileage! I think it IS Artis. I wish I could help but the latest is I'll be gone at that time. Latest word is touring starts heavy and hard in May and I think I'll be pretty crunched for the duration.... BUT MAYBE! I'd love to do some looping with YOU there Miles! Oh boy. We could raise a serious ruckus!!! Who knows? I might get fed up and quit... or get fed up and get fired. Or be overfed and get too fat to get through the auditorium doors. But for now it looks like I'll be pretty jammed up to the wall. Artis is looping? Oh man. I'd love to see THAT! Any of you in Toronto I'll be there 10 March (Canadian Music Week) with Hayley Sales at Healey's Blue Jay Way. We go on at 11. No looping - just straight stuff on my end. I'll need a lot of coffee but I think I can stay awake for it. Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 1-Mar-07, at 2:57 PM, miles ward wrote: It's Arlis not Artis from what I remember, and I'd love to help, i've got some connections around here :) On 3/1/07, samba - < wrote: Artis,you know the spoonbeing,wants to do a loopfest modelled on the y2k series ,in Seattle in the fall.Anyone on the list from that area interested in helping produce?Anyone have any good connects,ideas for venues,sponsors etc? _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117 -- ---Miles Ward "The desired effect is what you get, when you improve your interplanetary funksmanship." --Apple-Mail-1--934382361-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 01:19:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8D2B3BEC2; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 01:19:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4976.69.59.206.219.1172798337.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: <20070301221515.27BAE3BEE4@arsenic.violacea.com> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:18:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Seattle Loopfest From: improv@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-smtp-out.server.peak.org-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-smtp-out.server.peak.org-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-smtp-out.server.peak.org-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.438, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60, NO_REAL_NAME 0.96) X-smtp-out.server.peak.org-MailScanner-From: improv@peak.org X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 01:19:08 +0000 (UTC) > > Artis,you know the spoonbeing,wants to do a loopfest modelled on the y2k > series ,in Seattle in the fall.Anyone on the list from that area > interested > in helping produce?Anyone have any good connects,ideas for venues,sponsors > etc? I'd be down to participate, Seattle is a bit closer to Corvallis than Santa Cruz :-). I'm so far out of the Seattle scene that I don't have any ideas for venues, etc, but I could recommend a few places NOT to do it... -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content, and is believed to be clean. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 01:22:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE79C3BED6; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 01:22:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=U10by94Sw/WtzbPsqidrCJ4vGsp503hJFvTzUcWoaW+AAGIEbg+pZgDRrO0YdLCxFwqLBA8Nng1LMEjwTkqhla13rnSgX/NI6u3sZSHfsjGf/0bcnreEjecGG58TP8FUFdA1b5AaVHi/pI0mOacBHK3hTIh7nQuoJXEMjekNp6o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=QaxUmIcplMFeUJHAFeD15QS2lnhtCNxnrnWUiP3Z0yRwDyUWgg1079gS01pfyQyvcuxeoJzza9N+x9iy+8nMMyOEeAI0EccOTowsXJ1AKzA0bTJ7I1OEKj9B14yyXmKzMmp6yxbmXauGyoHReMjo1jvIGTC8pLHAiI32zsWliqU= Message-ID: <4cf76a0b0703011722s30c1e954sa4838c98168f2f32@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 17:22:23 -0800 From: "miles ward" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Seattle Loopfest In-Reply-To: <63d57ecc5598550e614f5e92fd770e06@glasswing.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20070301221515.27BAE3BEE4@arsenic.violacea.com> <4cf76a0b0703011457r7ff874e5p34c17dce4f5eb904@mail.gmail.com> <63d57ecc5598550e614f5e92fd770e06@glasswing.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 01:22:26 +0000 (UTC) Crap, you're right. I suck. On 3/1/07, Richard Sales wrote: > Mileage! I think it IS Artis. I wish I could help but the latest is > I'll be gone at that time. Latest word is touring starts heavy and > hard in May and I think I'll be pretty crunched for the duration.... > BUT MAYBE! > > I'd love to do some looping with YOU there Miles! Oh boy. We could > raise a serious ruckus!!! > > Who knows? I might get fed up and quit... or get fed up and get fired. > Or be overfed and get too fat to get through the auditorium doors. But > for now it looks like I'll be pretty jammed up to the wall. > > Artis is looping? Oh man. I'd love to see THAT! > > Any of you in Toronto I'll be there 10 March (Canadian Music Week) with > Hayley Sales at Healey's Blue Jay Way. We go on at 11. No looping - > just straight stuff on my end. I'll need a lot of coffee but I think I > can stay awake for it. > > richard sales > glassWing farm and studio > vancouver island, b.c. > 800.545.6846 > 250.752.4816 > www.glassWing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com > www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com > On 1-Mar-07, at 2:57 PM, miles ward wrote: > > > It's Arlis not Artis from what I remember, and I'd love to help, i've > > got some connections around here :) > > > > On 3/1/07, samba - wrote: > >> > >> Artis,you know the spoonbeing,wants to do a loopfest modelled on > >> the y2k > >> series ,in Seattle in the fall.Anyone on the list from that area > >> interested > >> in helping produce?Anyone have any good connects,ideas for > >> venues,sponsors > >> etc? > >> > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a > >> month. > >> Intro*Terms > >> https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp? > >> product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27 > >> f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117 > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > ---Miles Ward > > > > "The desired effect is what you get, when you improve your > > interplanetary funksmanship." > > > -- ---Miles Ward "The desired effect is what you get, when you improve your interplanetary funksmanship." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 01:39:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F09B73BEC5; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 01:39:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 20:38:48 -0500 (EST) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Subscape Annex at Breakfest March 3, Chapel Hill NC Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 01:39:36 +0000 (UTC) I will be playing a solo set of ambient/industrial drone on looped and effected Chapman Stick this Saturday at the Philbog. Venue: the Philbog URL: http://myspace.com/thephilbog Address: 404 Lindsay St., Chapel Hill NC 27516 Time: Begins at 4pm. Cover: $3 Flyer: http://www.subscapeannex.com/pics/flyer12.jpg Other bands: Carpet Violence (powerviolence / thrash / grind), Beelzebub Youth (darkwave), Snail Ears (twee), Nick Salomon (harsh noise / performance art), Wire Mother Cloth Mother (harsh noise), Pacific Before Tiger (minimal electronic), Femme Covert (synthpunk), The Drowsies (lofi pop punk), and The Puttys (rock) best, Steve B steve@subscapeannex.com Subscape Annex http://www.subscapeannex.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 02:32:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C959E3BECC; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 02:32:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hNkz8a0ve2OHkcXzeN/VRaf3pR4DPaio6U7AoU1pMCqdhYFMUDOVKzbzTRCigJGmCD8A4Sfd8wWjq1L7RJMG9cEC//VUkk0g1i0K+x2hs2OKJNTqX2Ax6o5dJPLJL//E3mZ5t21lXgWkjYRnQrufm+VrBPIgvAOiZz81zGMAhR8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=eg4BhamVtDcyyU0varmeSjMq8xpoAwCNZqn7uYmnPH+KLyzH+wO/IokBacaIUF3f1ZCHGykl0YeAk9P6OIOe+2dtDAO5V3oFPSdYOUO6hW5YbcwLOO4/kS9ap6SFQS0SWuC6PAk3QVV3wTKHDlr+3gdlDyqvZwFpulREhp3Gczw= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:32:15 -0700 From: "Doug Wellington" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Playing at Home v. Playing Live In-Reply-To: <451297.5451.qm@web81313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <46fea78d0702281859k4c4e0431w2e93394441250b9d@mail.gmail.com> <451297.5451.qm@web81313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 02:32:19 +0000 (UTC) On 3/1/07, mark sottilaro wrote: > Truth is, I got tired of performing pop songs live. Yeah, I can understand that! > So while I hope to get my shit together and start > playing out from time to time, I find I don't really > crave it much. Usually I can't hear myself well, feel > like I'm disconnected from the audience because of a > mountain of gear... Every now and then I have the urge to play out, but then I remember the last time I did and the urge goes away. On the other hand, I have so much gear that I've collected for the job that it seems like a waste of a perfectly good PA to not play out. I think it would be different if I had someone to collaborate with. (And to share setup and tear down duties!) ;-) > A few times a year I say this and usually get no > responses, but here goes. Anyone in the SF Bay Area > want to come over for some loop'n? Let me know. Anybody near Tucson? Doug From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 02:38:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 092633BED5; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 02:38:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <022301c75c73$dcac9200$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Anything Going on in Chicago, March 25-28 Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 19:38:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0220_01C75C39.2EA1DEC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 02:38:34 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0220_01C75C39.2EA1DEC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm going to be in Chicago, March 25 (Sunday) through March 29 = (Thursday) for work. Anyone in the area up for a low-key performance or = get-together? I'll be staying at the Intercontinental Hotel on Michigan = Ave. Sunday or Monday night would be cool. I'm bringing my 6-string = mandolin and laptop. Kris *************************************************************************= * Krispen Hartung www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung Performance Calendar: = http://www.musi-cal.com/search?performers=3DKrispen%20Hartung info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603=20 Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm CD Baby Discography: http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung ------=_NextPart_000_0220_01C75C39.2EA1DEC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    I'm going to be in Chicago, March 25 = (Sunday)=20 through March 29 (Thursday) for work.  Anyone in the area up for a = low-key=20 performance or get-together? I'll be staying at the Intercontinental = Hotel on=20 Michigan Ave. Sunday or Monday night would be cool.  I'm bringing = my=20 6-string mandolin and laptop.
     
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    ------=_NextPart_000_0220_01C75C39.2EA1DEC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 04:26:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB7013BED5; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 04:26:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [207.90.215.35] X-Identified-User: {864:box76.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:webmail from 207.90.215.35} Message-ID: <20070301222648.q1rm569slcg48ckk@69.89.21.76> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 22:26:48 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style posted References: <74504F07-6045-4AFC-9F8C-92E8F632DEC8@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <74504F07-6045-4AFC-9F8C-92E8F632DEC8@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: <5cnUjD.A.3rH.Ke65FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 04:26:50 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Per Boysen : > Hi, > > Today I recorded a short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style I > like very much. If someone want to listen I put it online here: > http://www.looproom.com/audio/city_seventeen.m4a Nice work, Per. Enjoyed it! -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 05:13:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 309FB3BED0; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 05:13:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fBKNKGxa5w/xbJ4Cdpx80i/26xYFvSsC3F2RVPsee8C+Klplevi3po794+NsWDSccaFfbu/K3sQ/R/zFO86u6cZs7T120EmbL0EGWl48/FG7mfw1esKxW1Ag2TRsNbUvI4/RpWzV7gv0qaIiIML/nutpdQjEQJ9cjUNWC18m1Ow= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fPQ6HIBIfC1B/KoQl3ct0VxR4378TdjLIxaF5F+nJ9Pjx7Jg44uEdvMcDqeETG1vuthR/fgNSpDiqwNMAOWy9NYEawxBv8JWUKSYyQa8bjsyd0KIK3Fl8btibfqeFqmqQXx5QxiUoG9ZvKdLzcWCI7AJNwRF5RIjvEoZSnYA84I= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:13:37 -0800 From: "Neil Goldstein" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Projects in the RPMChallenge In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60702231309q3afc5fe1lf3f8807be07ab0dc@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_89158_31383447.1172812417409" References: <9e0440a60702231309q3afc5fe1lf3f8807be07ab0dc@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 05:13:40 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_89158_31383447.1172812417409 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I submitted a solo album just mailed it off today. I got started Feb 23, so it was a frenzied weekend. Artist: Neil Goldstein Album: Notice That Face Live looping, and post production in Live & Logic with lots of Metasynth. Dance music, rock-jazz fusion, and many surprises ;-) (geez I hate the self promotion aspect of trying to be an artist) ! ------=_Part_89158_31383447.1172812417409 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I submitted a solo album just mailed it off today. I got started Feb 23, so it was a frenzied weekend.

    Artist: Neil Goldstein
    Album: Notice That Face

    Live looping, and post production in Live & Logic with lots of Metasynth.  Dance music, rock-jazz fusion, and many surprises ;-)

    (geez I hate the self promotion aspect of trying to be an artist) !

    ------=_Part_89158_31383447.1172812417409-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 05:28:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E0F23BED8; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 05:28:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=WY12p7JOjvwQ0laGqcVtqzVWrKDuLTooWCLXbffNVAEE/rrWp6hrnnpXpU2wOFmt+TppOOV3qwPjYSt49Gkqh56O7V5dTDe9aDbI2tLNiL2Eb7KNzKdDlyJXjgt1fjPVuraX73oCcrE7U9ABfuGS8wgYK8Eytv7eJS05vPv+Njg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Zo2k5IeJ8NMAoPkDTN/FUQmI4LselXBQlP+EgO3qSvQsSYSRL5J9L6sD2Y0OPPwO/1Y1WAhTMkXc31+4En7YZoaweIHtKk0g1Lh2YaQ5iWjmwj5QsYDIa5jGlRskcjnNtTnVHEm3MxqcfyxDrD0J3/Si6W30RNLaK9CoFokpVzo= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:28:45 -0800 From: "Neil Goldstein" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Projects in the RPMChallenge In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_89386_13099977.1172813325604" References: <9e0440a60702231309q3afc5fe1lf3f8807be07ab0dc@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 05:28:47 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_89386_13099977.1172813325604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 3/1/07, Neil Goldstein wrote: > > > > (geez I hate the self promotion aspect of trying to be an artist) ! I meant for myself of course :-) Hope you get a chance to check my stuff out, and I'm looking forward to hearing yours Jim. ------=_Part_89386_13099977.1172813325604 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

    On 3/1/07, Neil Goldstein <swamilove@gmail.com> wrote:


    (geez I hate the self promotion aspect of trying to be an artist) !


    I meant for myself of course :-) 

    Hope you get a chance to check my stuff out, and I'm looking forward to hearing yours Jim.


    ------=_Part_89386_13099977.1172813325604-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 05:30:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 04C5F3BEDD; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 05:30:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.75.151] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070302051340.BC3BF3BEDC@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Seattle Loopfest Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:30:25 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2007 05:30:28.0855 (UTC) FILETIME=[E3642870:01C75C8B] Resent-Message-ID: <6mDo4D.A.8ZC.2Z75FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 05:30:30 +0000 (UTC) It IS Artis,he wants to do it a week or two after Santa Cruz. He was extremely enthusiastic at y2k6 which will sort of be the template..I'm goingf to try to make some hookups etc. I can't do a lot from here ,Santa Cruz ,but what is needed is a good small crew of Allies that can get the foundational stuff together,venue,promo tech,actual day of show production,also known as in and out. I think in Seattle it should be possible to draw a decent crowd,esp with all the emphasis on originality in the local music scene. When I was last there in th elate 90s it was totally uncool to play covers in club bands. _________________________________________________________________ Find what you need at prices you’ll love. Compare products and save at MSN® Shopping. http://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24102&tcode=T001MSN20A0701 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 05:47:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 58C3A3BEDA; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 05:47:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=IhZTqNR449h1kV+f+EiLacbQo+fsV9/M3OsfLrqjmIDxrCfCuvDae/XQrwJAgbXY1zUGmx+n8Cm3v/xGfwdW3YLYKGmPPOg6DtAhe6cxyQnXWAP/gZs2sZ9faCxpW1LNxGJAXyEfEEg513yOj9b16DSaYDV99jikOUvcH6Zm0bM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=WFp3mvQvF8tI4FVGNMErQbBnywZywGETdiSg9M8PeJwx6vQazB6ZIPr6W+h/47bF3OLwjYGae/1aEDFxQWrKggcDP3FSu+8vwsoIj/yDvoKl6vvMpJNMD8G3Cldc7HddW+O8h9dkz6MUESYk/1fkjlviWrg+ORYwTDeILYpRWgE= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:47:20 -0800 From: "Matt Davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: live drum-machining on the radio MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 05:47:23 +0000 (UTC) If anyone's interested, I'll be doing a live drum machine performance (with looping) and an interview on KFJC this Saturday, 4pm Pacific Standard Time. http://www.kfjc.org/netcast/index.php (Funny note on "Standard Time" in the USA - congress just recently passed a thingy so that we're on "Daylight Savings Time" more often than "Standard Time". This of course could cause some confusion. I'm suggesting to my congresswoman that what is now Daylight Savings Time be changed to "Standard Time", and what is now Standard Time be renamed "Daylight Wasting Time". Makes sense, right?) Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 06:00:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4B8F3BED3; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 06:00:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: bo09YgMVM1myh4OwxmS5n.d021_ZSi2c_T8kuGesq8wo3g8Q5505U4pxaeChtOi51GOg_GxTA8KIe1o.f5bkIpfE77FjGvQhsIhpirHyXrvJchW55hodLTjkyGxTWMv.yO4OQJKI2S2bfP54DqHRqMISFA-- Message-ID: <001501c75c8f$ff908ad0$4201a8c0@MichaelPlishka> From: "Michael Plishka" To: References: <022301c75c73$dcac9200$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: Anything Going on in Chicago, March 25-28 Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:59:52 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C75C5D.B3DF2C90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 06:00:24 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C75C5D.B3DF2C90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Kris, perhaps we can set something up. When are you open on those dates? ~peace~ Plish ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Krispen Hartung=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:38 PM Subject: Anything Going on in Chicago, March 25-28 I'm going to be in Chicago, March 25 (Sunday) through March 29 = (Thursday) for work. Anyone in the area up for a low-key performance or = get-together? I'll be staying at the Intercontinental Hotel on Michigan = Ave. Sunday or Monday night would be cool. I'm bringing my 6-string = mandolin and laptop. Kris = *************************************************************************= * Krispen Hartung www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung Performance Calendar: = http://www.musi-cal.com/search?performers=3DKrispen%20Hartung info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603=20 Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm CD Baby Discography: http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C75C5D.B3DF2C90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Kris, perhaps we can set something up. = When are you=20 open on those dates?
     
    ~peace~
    Plish
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 Krispen=20 Hartung
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
    Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 = 8:38=20 PM
    Subject: Anything Going on in = Chicago,=20 March 25-28

    I'm going to be in Chicago, March 25 = (Sunday)=20 through March 29 (Thursday) for work.  Anyone in the area up for = a=20 low-key performance or get-together? I'll be staying at the = Intercontinental=20 Hotel on Michigan Ave. Sunday or Monday night would be cool.  I'm = bringing my 6-string mandolin and laptop.
     
    Kris
     
     
    ****************************************************************= **********
    Krispen=20 Hartung
    www.krispenhartung.com=20 / www.myspace.com/krispenhar= tung
    Performance=20 Calendar: ht= tp://www.musi-cal.com/search?performers=3DKrispen%20Hartung
    info@krispenhartung.com /=20 1.208.724.5603
    Discography - http://www.krispenha= rtung.com/catalogue.htm
    CD=20 Baby Discography: http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung=20
    ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C75C5D.B3DF2C90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 06:00:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86EDC3BEEA; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 06:00:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <032a01c75c90$128c7770$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: UPDATE #1: 2nd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival & BEMF CDs Released! Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:00:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0327_01C75C55.65994EB0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 06:00:28 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0327_01C75C55.65994EB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is a pre-Press Release announcement of the 2nd Annual Boise = Experimental Music Festival (BEMF 2).=20 BEMF 2 is going full steam ahead and is on target to occur on April = 26-28, 2007 at Boise's Visual Arts Collective. Tickets are now on sale = at the BEMF 2 website (http://www.boisemusicians.com/BEMF-2/), and at = will go on sale at the Boise Co-Op (888 W Fort St.) and Visual Arts = Collective (1419 Grove St.) on April 1. Ticket prices are $10 a day or = $15 for a three day pass (that's a mere $5 day for over 12 hours of some = of the most creative music going in the United States). BEMF 2 will feature 23 performances and 18 artists from around the = country, including several major representatives of the experimental, = avante-garde, and creative music genres from New York, Chicago, = California, Seattle, Wisconsin, and British Columbia. This program will = truly be a stellar and mind-blowing event for enthusiasts of creative = and innovative music art.=20 The performance lineup for the festival is now set and the schedule is = published on the website:=20 http://www.boisemusicians.com/BEMF-2/ (follow the "schedule" link at the = top menu). =20 Event Times April 26, (Thur), 8:30-10:30pm April 27 (Fri), 8:30pm-Midnight April 28 (Sat), 2:30pm-Midnight BEMF 2 performers are: Amy Vecchione (Boise, ID) Breccia (Boise, ID) Craig Green (Idaho Falls, ID) Jeff Kaiser & Gregory Taylor (Ventura, CA, Madison, WI) Gretchen Jude (Boise, ID) Jared Hallock (Boise, ID) Kris Hartung (Boise, ID) Lumper-Splitter (Oakland, CA) Margaret Noble (audio) and Edyta Stepien (video) (Chicago, IL) Moe! Staiano (Oakland, CA) Patrick Benolkin (Boise, ID) Rick Walker (Santa Cruz, CA) Rob Price & David Grollman (New York, NY) Stefan Smulovitz (Vancouver, B.C.) Ted Killian (Medford, OR) Tom Baker (Seattle, WA) The Transhumans (Ventura, CA) Unicorn Feather (Boise, ID)=20 IMPORTANT: Because the Boise Experimental Music Festival is = fundamentally a non-profit event, it cannot occur without the support = from local businesses, organizations, and individuals, who value and = wish to support artistic diversity in Boise and the surrounding Treasure = Valley. In order to cover event costs and help fund travel expenses for = top notch artists from around the country, this event cannot proceed = without financial donations and sponsorship. If you are or know of a business or individual who may be interested in = supporting BEMF 2, please have them contact me at the email or phone = number listed below. The website also has a PayPal button and link for = people to donate using their Visa or Master cards. All proceeds will go = directly to BEMF 2 costs and musician travel. And finally, I have a very special announcement and opportunity for = individuals to support this year's festival. Excerpts of the 1st Annual = Boise Experimental Music Festival are now available on a two CDs (BEMF = Vol. 1 and BEMF Vol. 2) for $11.99 each. As with sponsors and those who = donate, all proceeds will go directly to BEMF 2 event and musician = travel costs with the ultmate goal of everyone breaking even! You can = view more information, listen to MP3 samplers, or buy the two CDs at = this web page: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/CD.htm A very special thank you also goes to the musicians on these CDs, who = were generous enough to allow the sale of their live performances to = support the experimental music scene in Boise, Idaho, USA. Hats off to = you all, ladies and gentlemen! :) Cheers, *************************************************************************= * Krispen Hartung www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603=20 BEMF 2: http://www.boisemusicians.com/BEMF-2/ BEMF 1: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental BEMF on Myspace: http://groups.myspace.com/bemf ------=_NextPart_000_0327_01C75C55.65994EB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    This is a pre-Press = Release=20 announcement of the 2nd Annual Boise Experimental Music=20 Festival (BEMF 2).
     
    BEMF 2 is going = full steam=20 ahead and is on target to occur on April 26-28, = 2007=20 at Boise's Visual Arts Collective.  Tickets are = now on=20 sale at the BEMF 2 website (http://www.boisemusicians.com/BEMF-2/), and at will go on sale at the Boise Co-Op (888 W Fort St.) = and Visual=20 Arts Collective (1419 = Grove=20 St.) on April 1.  Ticket prices are $10 = a=20 day or $15 for a three day pass (that's a mere = $5 day=20 for over 12 hours of some of the most creative music going in the United = States).
     
    BEMF 2 will feature 23=20 performances and 18 artists from around the = country,=20 including several major representatives of the experimental, = avante-garde, and=20 creative music genres from New York, Chicago, California, Seattle, = Wisconsin,=20 and British Columbia. This program will truly be a stellar and = mind-blowing=20 event for enthusiasts of creative and innovative music art. =
     
    The performance lineup for the festival = is now set=20 and the schedule is published on the website:
    http://www.boisemusicians.com/BEMF-2/ (follow the "schedule" link at the top menu). =20
     

    Event Times

     

    April 26, (Thur),=20 8:30=9610:30pm

    April 27 (Fri),=20 8:30pm=96Midnight

    April 28 (Sat),=20 2:30pm=96Midnight

     
    BEMF 2 = performers=20 are:
     
    Amy=20 Vecchione (Boise, ID)
    Breccia (Boise, ID)
    Craig Green (Idaho = Falls,=20 ID)
    Jeff Kaiser & Gregory Taylor (Ventura, CA, Madison, = WI)
    Gretchen=20 Jude (Boise, ID)
    Jared Hallock (Boise, ID)
    Kris Hartung (Boise,=20 ID)
    Lumper-Splitter (Oakland, CA)
    Margaret Noble (audio) and Edyta = Stepien=20 (video) (Chicago, IL)
    Moe! Staiano (Oakland, CA)
    Patrick Benolkin = (Boise,=20 ID)
    Rick Walker (Santa Cruz, CA)
    Rob Price & David Grollman = (New York,=20 NY)
    Stefan Smulovitz (Vancouver, B.C.)
    Ted Killian = (Medford,=20 OR)
    Tom Baker (Seattle, WA)
    The Transhumans (Ventura, = CA)
    Unicorn=20 Feather (Boise, ID)
     
    IMPORTANT: = Because the=20 Boise Experimental Music Festival is fundamentally a = non-profit=20 event, it cannot occur without the support from local businesses, = organizations,=20 and individuals, who value and wish to support artistic diversity in = Boise and=20 the surrounding Treasure Valley. In order to cover event costs and help = fund=20 travel expenses for top notch artists from around the country, this = event cannot=20 proceed without financial donations and sponsorship.
     
    If you are or know of a business or=20 individual who may be interested in supporting BEMF 2, please = have=20 them contact me at the email or phone number listed below. The website = also has=20 a PayPal button and link for people to donate using = their Visa=20 or Master cards. All proceeds will go directly to BEMF 2 costs and = musician=20 travel.
     
    And = finally, I have a=20 very special announcement and opportunity for individuals to support = this year's=20 festival. Excerpts of the 1st Annual Boise Experimental Music=20 Festival are now available on a two CDs (BEMF Vol. 1 = and BEMF=20 Vol. 2) for $11.99 each.  As with sponsors and those who = donate,=20 all proceeds will go directly to BEMF 2 event and musician travel costs = with the=20 ultmate goal of everyone breaking even!  You can view more = information,=20 listen to MP3 samplers, or buy the two CDs at this web page: = http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental/CD.htm
     
    A very special thank = you also goes to=20 the musicians on these CDs, who were generous enough to allow the = sale of=20 their live performances to support the experimental music scene in = Boise, Idaho,=20 USA.  Hats off to you all, ladies and gentlemen! :)
     
    Cheers,
     
    ****************************************************************= **********
    Krispen=20 Hartung
    www.krispenhartung.com / = www.myspace.com/krispenhartung
    info@krispenhartung.com = /=20 1.208.724.5603
    BEMF 2:     http://www.boisemusicians.com/BEMF-2/
    BEMF 1: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimental
    BEMF on Myspace: http://groups.myspace.com/bemf
    ------=_NextPart_000_0327_01C75C55.65994EB0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 06:05:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DC2F3BEDA; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 06:05:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <033b01c75c90$be622ea0$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <022301c75c73$dcac9200$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <001501c75c8f$ff908ad0$4201a8c0@MichaelPlishka> Subject: Re: Anything Going on in Chicago, March 25-28 Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 23:05:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0338_01C75C56.11691270" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 06:05:16 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0338_01C75C56.11691270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Probably any time after 7pm or so. If we can't get a gig lined up, it = would be fun to have a drink with some local loopers! :) Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Michael Plishka=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 10:59 PM Subject: Re: Anything Going on in Chicago, March 25-28 Kris, perhaps we can set something up. When are you open on those = dates? ~peace~ Plish ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Krispen Hartung=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:38 PM Subject: Anything Going on in Chicago, March 25-28 I'm going to be in Chicago, March 25 (Sunday) through March 29 = (Thursday) for work. Anyone in the area up for a low-key performance or = get-together? I'll be staying at the Intercontinental Hotel on Michigan = Ave. Sunday or Monday night would be cool. I'm bringing my 6-string = mandolin and laptop. Kris = *************************************************************************= * Krispen Hartung www.krispenhartung.com / www.myspace.com/krispenhartung Performance Calendar: = http://www.musi-cal.com/search?performers=3DKrispen%20Hartung info@krispenhartung.com / 1.208.724.5603=20 Discography - http://www.krispenhartung.com/catalogue.htm CD Baby Discography: http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung ------=_NextPart_000_0338_01C75C56.11691270 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Probably any time after 7pm or so. If = we can't get=20 a gig lined up, it would be fun to have a drink with some local = loopers! =20 :)
     
    Kris
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 Michael=20 Plishka
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
    Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 = 10:59=20 PM
    Subject: Re: Anything Going on = in=20 Chicago, March 25-28

    Kris, perhaps we can set something = up. When are=20 you open on those dates?
     
    ~peace~
    Plish
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 Krispen=20 Hartung
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
    Sent: Thursday, March 01, = 2007 8:38=20 PM
    Subject: Anything Going on in = Chicago,=20 March 25-28

    I'm going to be in Chicago, March = 25 (Sunday)=20 through March 29 (Thursday) for work.  Anyone in the area up = for a=20 low-key performance or get-together? I'll be staying at the = Intercontinental=20 Hotel on Michigan Ave. Sunday or Monday night would be cool.  = I'm=20 bringing my 6-string mandolin and laptop.
     
    Kris
     
     
    ****************************************************************= **********
    Krispen=20 Hartung
    www.krispenhartung.com / = www.myspace.com/krispenhar= tung
    Performance=20 Calendar: ht= tp://www.musi-cal.com/search?performers=3DKrispen%20Hartung
    info@krispenhartung.com = /=20 1.208.724.5603
    Discography - http://www.krispenha= rtung.com/catalogue.htm
    CD=20 Baby Discography: http://cdbaby.com/all/khartung=20
    ------=_NextPart_000_0338_01C75C56.11691270-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 07:38:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17C763BEDA; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 07:38:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=pg+WsDlONh03/R9tP/BroinS8mGjrebIBQCd/laEwcEk396armUmDuepGG+/DAntl5vZbCPBMYXz9AJ22qAn+8QoV5yxSkZDiKdEMtU3LhPzdC16tyRa2n7Aan/EiJezHU+LCfW5zDyQlDai+R0zlZBxtNi9Y7Is83keFMLl6m8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=UO5LuMkyHKRlM6g0vd/O5qy1I7PzvC2A1zF6gRoUlBzkXqCkbcFmSBRWdfgLDwOi0AF2xfm24Icp3msJ8tyLFmMRUPj1vy5dkwN3w6oniOm1h+QUNlPvc7kX9lnS6S4ZSoo+GkP1Y8/BeW7mDBgujP2/SWLJeK7yWr4jsSYTfE4= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7202135F20@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> References: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7202135F20@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style posted Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:37:46 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 07:38:02 +0000 (UTC) * From: Richard Sales > You're the man, Per! I like the bassoon sounding guy in City 17. Is > that the EWI? Yes. That particular sound is playing the EWI driving a sampler loaded with bass clarinet samples, patched through a virtual wha pedal and through a virtual slightly overdriven UK Combo 30W and a UK 1x12 open cabinet. The whining sound that has some sitar and flute to it is the EWI driving Sculpture (modeling synth of Logic's). But he first part I recorded with the EWI was the strings. I used a multi sample set taken from old Mellotrone tapes with the sampler's LFO synced to the song tempo via a tempo division factor assigned to the EWI's breath control. So the harder I'm blowing into the mouthpiece the faster the tremolo goes with the string orchestra patch. That makes it possible to hold just one note and still make some rhythmic tension over time :-) per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 07:56:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA6D63BEDF; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 07:56:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Oy/w9/ViEbsr0cM2yS0AtD8Dmov6aT8eKPDW8kuhR+3Q2yxWjB+Ip43uVAaICq4N; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <3291968.1172822211741.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 02:56:51 -0500 (EST) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Subscape Annex at Breakfest March 3, Chapel Hill NC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd48ea083ba730d3c9e9ed6bdc481ac293fa4e508857176a6fc1350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.45 Resent-Message-ID: <_3_agC.A.mUB.Ej95FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 07:56:52 +0000 (UTC) soundz like my kinda low frequency gang- wish i were there s -----Original Message----- >From: burnett@pobox.com >Sent: Mar 1, 2007 8:38 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Subscape Annex at Breakfest March 3, Chapel Hill NC > >I will be playing a solo set of ambient/industrial drone on looped and effected >Chapman Stick this Saturday at the Philbog. > >Venue: the Philbog >URL: http://myspace.com/thephilbog >Address: 404 Lindsay St., Chapel Hill NC 27516 >Time: Begins at 4pm. >Cover: $3 > >Flyer: >http://www.subscapeannex.com/pics/flyer12.jpg > >Other bands: >Carpet Violence (powerviolence / thrash / grind), Beelzebub Youth (darkwave), >Snail Ears (twee), Nick Salomon (harsh noise / performance art), Wire Mother >Cloth Mother (harsh noise), Pacific Before Tiger (minimal electronic), Femme >Covert (synthpunk), The Drowsies (lofi pop punk), and The Puttys (rock) > >best, >Steve B steve@subscapeannex.com >Subscape Annex http://www.subscapeannex.com/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 08:16:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27CDD3BEE7; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:16:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=BHne4xpSgBAAx7ufeBtixIkA4ipuqiN46DDh2aY09vi1ZXVS/u8ksAZh6KZbfp8s1/kTxUMvnEv9/f38VPHEM+UksT8r6MsK7RaZ8+gibQkDadE9uUw/xxlFtv4C5l9YfBBTuBZRTbQ98U2ieoF2kPU1F2zbHTLEzPOtELO+wL8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=d2BkfNGTN4ThG2dEJ6doCL15y4/v9DREPAtuFH9P68L5Ey5/xQOzUwBwVxF5uQSiq+KnFZCjv0hmDarw39EVt4T5f52kQcatn2EmuBHpGuW8fFLL9YOvDDD950NjomQF0r+RKAB/20y+2NImrDtA3PzXSb1NJHRa7Ild6HCPM2k= In-Reply-To: <1563905042.1172776300326.JavaMail.root@fepweb12> References: <1563905042.1172776300326.JavaMail.root@fepweb12> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: the side effects of looping Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 09:15:49 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:16:00 +0000 (UTC) ---- Dan Katayama wrote: >> But I've come to notice, that I've lost the ability to "write" >> with a band. >> If they give me an idea, I can contribute, but to sit there and >> "write" >> spontaneously has been difficult. I subscribe to the idea that "composition" can be described as "slow motion improvisation". This gives you can improve composition abilities by practicing looping - but only if you practice looping in a split vision mind set (see below). >> Because I'm still thinking in layers..I'm thinking slow...and >> somehow I've >> lost something. Do you mean that you visualize music as layers? And because layers in a long loop are laid down in a linear way, one after the other, you have gotten used to proceed slowly? If that's the case you need some medicine to recover ;-)) As a healthy practice you can focus on looping much faster. Make short loops and put new layers in on every round. Never "wait", play something all the time, while taking out old stuff (by feedback or SUSSubstitute etc.). That praxis will teach your brain to visualize music not as "layers on a time line" but as "a mess of many layers heard at once". You need to re-learn how to see the forrest, not only the specific tree you walk by. I think this is the most important factor in all music making, not only in looping. You have to master it, since it's a foundation. The very same skill is learned by ice hockey players, then called "split vision" - the ability to keep a true vision of all players positions while still being able to fiddle around with the puck right in front of your toes. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 08:36:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 84E643BEEA; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:36:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <015e01c75ca5$d84be440$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Seattle Loopfest Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 00:36:16 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 08:36:16 +0000 (UTC) The Y2K7 International Live Looping Festival will be the third weekend in October (17-22) and I'd greatly appreciate it if we didn't double book with each other. We've worked so hard to try and build this festival into a successful one it would be great not to have to split the west coast energy for such an event. Also, I'd love to come up and perform at a Seattle Loop Fest if one occurs and there is room for me. repectfully, Rick Walker organizer Y2K Series Live Looping Festivals ps I've produced so many looping festivals in the past 7 years that you can also contact me if you want any help with planning advice. I've learned a lot of things about having a wonderful festival on a ridiculously low budget. Let me know if I can be of assistance if this gets off the ground and good luck............it's exciting to contemplate. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 10:23:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C8573BEE7; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:23:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [86.53.69.125] X-Originating-Email: [thepoetmd@hotmail.com] X-Sender: thepoetmd@hotmail.com From: "martin daws" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: what looping tool? Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:23:42 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2007 10:23:44.0459 (UTC) FILETIME=[DB3041B0:01C75CB4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:23:47 +0000 (UTC) i'm about to enter the loops. could you please advise me as to which looping tool(s) will work well for me. this is the spec: i want to perform spoken word poetry accompanied with improvised vocal loops. for example, i sing a 4 bar bass loop, then i want this to continuein time looping seamlessly (assuming i've hit it on time) while i add a vocal hi hat. once i've got a few loops working i'll perform the poem live over the top. the effect i want to generate is of a track growing organically in real time, so everything drops in from the live recording without any stops and starts. i was looking at a boss RC50 - what d'you think? md www.myspace.com/martindawsquintet _________________________________________________________________ Exclusive Ed Byrne daily comedy clips on MSN Video http://specials.uk.msn.com/edbyrne/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 10:37:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0931D3BEEA; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [86.53.69.125] X-Originating-Email: [thepoetmd@hotmail.com] X-Sender: thepoetmd@hotmail.com From: "martin daws" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: what looping tool? again Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 10:37:06 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2007 10:37:09.0833 (UTC) FILETIME=[BB3A9390:01C75CB6] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:37:12 +0000 (UTC) woops, further to the previous post, i also want to use foot pedals for the looping, i don't want to be bending over squinting at buttons (or a laptop) and ignoring the audience, and i want to keep my hands free. ok. thanks. md i'm about to enter the loops. could you please advise me as to which looping tool(s) will work well for me. this is the spec: i want to perform spoken word poetry accompanied with improvised vocal loops. for example, i sing a 4 bar bass loop, then i want this to continuein time looping seamlessly (assuming i've hit it on time) while i add a vocal hi hat. once i've got a few loops working i'll perform the poem live over the top. the effect i want to generate is of a track growing organically in real time, so everything drops in from the live recording without any stops and starts. i was looking at a boss RC50 - what d'you think? md www.myspace.com/martindawsquintet _________________________________________________________________ Get Messenger FREE on your Mobile https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 11:19:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8AF53BED9; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:19:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00c901c75cbc$a3d2d9a0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> From: "Fabio Anile" To: References: <74504F07-6045-4AFC-9F8C-92E8F632DEC8@gmail.com> Subject: Re: short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style posted Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:19:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2007 11:19:28.0264 (UTC) FILETIME=[A4406880:01C75CBC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:19:38 +0000 (UTC) Wow, Per. I really like it !!! It's freesh and that touch my emotions. Beautiful orchestration. Thanks for sharing fa http://xoomer.alice.it/eterogeneo www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:18 PM Subject: short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style posted > Hi, > > Today I recorded a short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style I > like very much. If someone want to listen I put it online here: > http://www.looproom.com/audio/city_seventeen.m4a > > This piece was not produced by live looping (as the guitar piece I posted > some days ago) but the feel, the orchestration and the performance > attitude is something I have directly learned from practicing looping (at > home and at concerts ;-). Back in the days I would have had to compose to > come up with this kind of music, but after the recent years of live > looping it feels more natural to improvise the parts very quickly (when I > succeed in disconnecting my brain a more interesting music is starting to > happen). The idea is, as in solo looping, to do "questions and answers", > taking on different roles by playing different instruments against each > other. The instrument I played here was the EWI 4000s. But in a way I > would also like say that Logic makes for a great deal of "the > instrument". Logic's synths, sampler functionality and dynamic filtering > effects makes it possible to find the sound I have been thinking about > for years. To record unquantized MIDI with an EWI into a sequencer of > that high resolution is the damn coolest palette IMHO! So this is why I > want to daisy-chain a Mac in front of my Mobius looping laptop ;-) > > per > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.5/707 - Release Date: 01/03/2007 > 14.43 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 11:57:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B47D3BEDF; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:57:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45E8112B.9040704@rhein-zeitung.de> Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 12:57:31 +0100 From: Dirk Wilbert User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style posted References: <74504F07-6045-4AFC-9F8C-92E8F632DEC8@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <74504F07-6045-4AFC-9F8C-92E8F632DEC8@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:57:32 +0000 (UTC) Hello Per - I like it a lot; there were pictures of some dark movie plot rising in my head... Dirk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 12:44:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 280873BED8; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:44:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 07:43:20 -0500 (EST) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Subscape Annex at Breakfest March 3, Chapel Hill NC In-Reply-To: <3291968.1172822211741.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: References: <3291968.1172822211741.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:44:09 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, stanitarium@earthlink.net wrote: > Steve B wrote: >> http://www.subscapeannex.com/pics/flyer12.jpg > soundz like my kinda low frequency gang- > wish i were there Thanks, Stan, it should be fun. I don't know most of the other performers, so I'm looking forward to hearing new to me material. best, Steve B steve@subscapeannex.com Subscape Annex http://www.subscapeannex.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 16:43:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A9423BEEE; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:43:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:43:29 -0600 From: "Sandy Rowles" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: what looping tool? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_86871_31601483.1172853809524" References: Resent-Message-ID: <_GBTQB.A.KpG.1QF6FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:43:33 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_86871_31601483.1172853809524 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Martin, What you want to do seems quite basic. I'm sure that a rc50 would work great for you but I think the rc20xl would work just as well for you and is cheaper. I have had one before and it had 16 minutes of loop time with unlimited overdubs. It also saves your work when you turn it off and sounds pretty good IMO. On 3/2/07, martin daws wrote: > > i'm about to enter the loops. could you please advise me as to which > looping > tool(s) will work well for me. this is the spec: > i want to perform spoken word poetry accompanied with improvised vocal > loops. for example, i sing a 4 bar bass loop, then i want this to > continuein > time looping seamlessly (assuming i've hit it on time) while i add a vocal > hi hat. once i've got a few loops working i'll perform the poem live over > the top. the effect i want to generate is of a track growing organically > in > real time, so everything drops in from the live recording without any > stops > and starts. > i was looking at a boss RC50 - what d'you think? > md > > www.myspace.com/martindawsquintet > > _________________________________________________________________ > Exclusive Ed Byrne daily comedy clips on MSN Video > http://specials.uk.msn.com/edbyrne/ > > ------=_Part_86871_31601483.1172853809524 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Martin,
       What you want to do seems quite basic. I'm sure that a rc50 would work great for you but I think the rc20xl would work just as well for you and is cheaper. I have had one before and it had 16 minutes of loop time with unlimited overdubs. It also saves your work when you turn it off and sounds pretty good IMO.

    On 3/2/07, martin daws <thepoetmd@hotmail.com> wrote:
    i'm about to enter the loops. could you please advise me as to which looping
    tool(s) will work well for me. this is the spec:
    i want to perform spoken word poetry accompanied with improvised vocal
    loops. for example, i sing a 4 bar bass loop, then i want this to continuein
    time looping seamlessly (assuming i've hit it on time) while i add a vocal
    hi hat. once i've got a few loops working i'll perform the poem live over
    the top. the effect i want to generate is of a track growing organically in
    real time, so everything drops in from the live recording without any stops
    and starts.
    i was looking at a boss RC50 - what d'you think?
    md

    www.myspace.com/martindawsquintet

    _________________________________________________________________
    Exclusive Ed Byrne daily comedy clips on MSN Video
    http://specials.uk.msn.com/edbyrne/


    ------=_Part_86871_31601483.1172853809524-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 16:46:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5731E3BEFA; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:46:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:46:09 -0600 From: "Sandy Rowles" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: what looping tool? again In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_86939_31727769.1172853969552" References: Resent-Message-ID: <-tZLm.A.V0G.TTF6FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 16:46:11 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_86939_31727769.1172853969552 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Another thing about the rc20xl. It only has 2 footswitches so it is very basic and easy to use. It has several smaller buttons for programming your settings and such but once you have done that, you only need one foot and don't really have to even look at it since there are only 2 footswitches. On 3/2/07, martin daws wrote: > > woops, further to the previous post, i also want to use foot pedals for > the > looping, i don't want to be bending over squinting at buttons (or a > laptop) > and ignoring the audience, and i want to keep my hands free. > ok. thanks. > md > > > > > > i'm about to enter the loops. could you please advise me as to which > looping > tool(s) will work well for me. this is the spec: > i want to perform spoken word poetry accompanied with improvised vocal > loops. for example, i sing a 4 bar bass loop, then i want this to > continuein > time looping seamlessly (assuming i've hit it on time) while i add a vocal > hi hat. once i've got a few loops working i'll perform the poem live over > the top. the effect i want to generate is of a track growing organically > in > real time, so everything drops in from the live recording without any > stops > and starts. > i was looking at a boss RC50 - what d'you think? > md > > www.myspace.com/martindawsquintet > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get Messenger FREE on your Mobile https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/ > > ------=_Part_86939_31727769.1172853969552 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Another thing about the rc20xl. It only has 2 footswitches so it is very basic and easy to use. It has several smaller buttons for programming your settings and such but once you have done that, you only need one foot and don't really have to even look at it since there are only 2 footswitches.

    On 3/2/07, martin daws <thepoetmd@hotmail.com> wrote:
    woops, further to the previous post, i also want to use foot pedals for the
    looping, i don't want to be bending over squinting at buttons (or a laptop)
    and ignoring the audience, and i want to keep my hands free.
    ok. thanks.
    md





    i'm about to enter the loops. could you please advise me as to which looping
    tool(s) will work well for me. this is the spec:
    i want to perform spoken word poetry accompanied with improvised vocal
    loops. for example, i sing a 4 bar bass loop, then i want this to continuein
    time looping seamlessly (assuming i've hit it on time) while i add a vocal
    hi hat. once i've got a few loops working i'll perform the poem live over
    the top. the effect i want to generate is of a track growing organically in
    real time, so everything drops in from the live recording without any stops
    and starts.
    i was looking at a boss RC50 - what d'you think?
    md

    www.myspace.com/martindawsquintet

    _________________________________________________________________
    Get Messenger FREE on your Mobile https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/


    ------=_Part_86939_31727769.1172853969552-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 18:12:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C58013BEF3; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:12:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "greg williams" To: Subject: RE: short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style posted Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:13:16 -0800 Message-ID: <001901c75cf6$73278af0$76f8bb43@gwdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: <74504F07-6045-4AFC-9F8C-92E8F632DEC8@gmail.com> Thread-Index: AcdcT5EbL4sIW6EaSY+liva13BD7EwApnewA Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:12:42 +0000 (UTC) Very nice work Per! I love the juxtaposition of timbres; I'd love to hear longer versions of this kind of work. Thanks for posting this. ~Greg -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 2:19 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style posted Hi, Today I recorded a short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style I like very much. If someone want to listen I put it online here: http://www.looproom.com/audio/city_seventeen.m4a This piece was not produced by live looping (as the guitar piece I posted some days ago) but the feel, the orchestration and the performance attitude is something I have directly learned from practicing looping (at home and at concerts ;-). Back in the days I would have had to compose to come up with this kind of music, but after the recent years of live looping it feels more natural to improvise the parts very quickly (when I succeed in disconnecting my brain a more interesting music is starting to happen). The idea is, as in solo looping, to do "questions and answers", taking on different roles by playing different instruments against each other. The instrument I played here was the EWI 4000s. But in a way I would also like say that Logic makes for a great deal of "the instrument". Logic's synths, sampler functionality and dynamic filtering effects makes it possible to find the sound I have been thinking about for years. To record unquantized MIDI with an EWI into a sequencer of that high resolution is the damn coolest palette IMHO! So this is why I want to daisy-chain a Mac in front of my Mobius looping laptop ;-) per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 18:20:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73F453BEF7; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:20:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style posted Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:19:47 -0500 In-Reply-To: <001901c75cf6$73278af0$76f8bb43@gwdesk> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 24019 Message-Id: <8C92B0E7ECDA0A3-F70-7B91@WEBMAIL-RC05.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 152.163.16.90 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:20:07 +0000 (UTC) per....your music posts always works on my puter, but this time all i get is a long page of crazy letters and stuff that comes up when i hit the link.....i use safari on my emac.....what am i doing wrong?.....michael www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 <> ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 18:29:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E96683BEEE; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:29:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: p4e5c.gVM1nkvEwl353ZZTJtodPJOZZn9rHL4c8iQZozpYnzN6AtPyva7HZDbsNF93jAoT3KaIx1gfU9.2lSSw0IB9qaiSLzriza4UyCcBHj616LzG8mh8.jB2zVqMNrUG_g_jNRM7JuQ.2aPkU9TwAN Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--868044695 From: Josh Carroll Subject: Live Looper on American Idol Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:29:27 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:29:36 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--868044695 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I haven't followed the show at all, but my wife brought this to my attention: Audition for American Idol - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rwe2Q3VXsw Looping performance - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2cj8XXzRC8 --Apple-Mail-4--868044695 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I haven't followed the show at = all, but my wife brought this to my attention:

    Audition for American Idol = -=A0

    Looping performance -=A0=A0http://www.youtube.c= om/watch?v=3DY2cj8XXzRC8
    = --Apple-Mail-4--868044695-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 18:33:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FB463BEEE; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:33:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX184DrB7zY44drGUzqXLlVmDfNCnZ0uxCF6xZ/Yvl/ 7d28dJSnuHGnSa Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <8C92B0E7ECDA0A3-F70-7B91@WEBMAIL-RC05.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C92B0E7ECDA0A3-F70-7B91@WEBMAIL-RC05.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: nico spahni Subject: Re: short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style posted Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:33:15 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:33:31 +0000 (UTC) I finally got round to listening to the piece, Per. I can only second the opinions that I've read so far: very cool ambient stuff with lots of lush textures! As regards the production software, I'm one of those who needn't be convinced of LOGIC's merits. I've been using the software for years to produce all kinds of music. Cheers Nico From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 18:49:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 615E23BEEC; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:49:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=k5Rd2wm2RZZoyBEW1xtV8dvXPZyO6rc8Eee+CSOjhGGuNcrtU0uyZGUGoH3dM35w; h=Received:Date:Subject:Content-Type:Mime-Version:From:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:58:10 -0800 Subject: Re: short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style posted Content-Type: text/plain; delsp=yes; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Sheila Olson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <8C92B0E7ECDA0A3-F70-7B91@WEBMAIL-RC05.sysops.aol.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-ELNK-Trace: 573b2ac3a2420bc9f258f48946e2642d9ef193a6bfc3dd4842339a157545370ba1f50513ab345c1bdfe6209a9096b523350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.3.211.5 Resent-Message-ID: <27FgqD.A.hzE.QHH6FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:49:52 +0000 (UTC) Same thing with me. I am also using safari. I notice that your link is coded as M4a file as opposed to Mp3. Could this be the issue? Yours in looping. joe On Friday, March 2, 2007, at 10:19 AM, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > per....your music posts always works on my puter, but this time all i > get is a long page of crazy letters and stuff that comes up when i hit > the link.....i use safari on my emac.....what am i doing > wrong?.....michael > > > www.ct-collective.com > http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 > > <> > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's > free from AOL at AOL.com. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 18:51:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BBACA3BEFB; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:51:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=5HX4MPZ2qjL+26HA8fdT6Ti78J0wFjkgIGowU9eVl+G6xPd0s0Yw4ZfOzFjqXX16GBAu7TxuC35QK7lElzhg17aul/SjeMGM+/+qOqJP+VzEQma0xI+XApg0gnmu6J/OUZpFJrvqlB+8JYk0at1w0dPm4x/Bj4ESc5liEAzsHrM=; X-YMail-OSG: QTiPmfIVM1lXJb1C5PbSU1td8g4IzJhoowCtcZtzNDBdDD9OMTNoxSnacPBT_7q1QOn_X5OjfA0xsfY_OgHLyyI2mqUrYnq_5cPXP6LEg026JGDqkQRTPiud6lgVXi4xnPKBAtZCNn18apVzF8ZhPVJH3Q-- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/468.1 YahooMailWebService/0.6.132.8 Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:51:44 -0800 (PST) From: x031661-loopers@yahoo.com Subject: Re: what looping tool? again To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <952063.97724.qm@web52709.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:51:46 +0000 (UTC) I'd sat the RC-50 is overkill for what you describe.=0AI've used the digite= ch jamman and I think it would work well for what you want to do.=0A=0A=0A-= ---- Original Message ----=0AFrom: martin daws =0ATo= : Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Friday, March 2, 2007 5:37:06= AM=0ASubject: what looping tool? again=0A=0Awoops, further to the previous= post, i also want to use foot pedals for the =0Alooping, i don't want to b= e bending over squinting at buttons (or a laptop) =0Aand ignoring the audie= nce, and i want to keep my hands free.=0Aok. thanks.=0Amd=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A= i'm about to enter the loops. could you please advise me as to which loopin= g =0Atool(s) will work well for me. this is the spec:=0Ai want to perform s= poken word poetry accompanied with improvised vocal =0Aloops. for example, = i sing a 4 bar bass loop, then i want this to continuein =0Atime looping se= amlessly (assuming i've hit it on time) while i add a vocal =0Ahi hat. once= i've got a few loops working i'll perform the poem live over =0Athe top. t= he effect i want to generate is of a track growing organically in =0Areal t= ime, so everything drops in from the live recording without any stops =0Aan= d starts.=0Ai was looking at a boss RC50 - what d'you think?=0Amd=0A=0Awww.= myspace.com/martindawsquintet=0A=0A________________________________________= _________________________=0AGet Messenger FREE on your Mobile https://livem= essenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/=0A=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 18:58:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 278243BEFC; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:58:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+7HzU9u227Y3nVB886L+s1E6mQ7Nbd0KGkHbZXbe 434XKPMdAFsbQ6 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1375a83df6cad2b576d485873cbdcc9a@gmx.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: nico spahni Subject: Re: short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style posted Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:58:42 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 18:58:54 +0000 (UTC) I've just experienced the same problem on my Mac. Here's the solution: download the file from Per's website and open it in iTunes. Nico Am 02.03.2007 um 19:58 schrieb Sheila Olson: > Same thing with me. I am also using safari. > > I notice that your link is coded as M4a file as opposed to Mp3. Could > this be the issue? > > Yours in looping. > > joe > > > On Friday, March 2, 2007, at 10:19 AM, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > >> per....your music posts always works on my puter, but this time all i >> get is a long page of crazy letters and stuff that comes up when i >> hit the link.....i use safari on my emac.....what am i doing >> wrong?.....michael >> >> >> www.ct-collective.com >> http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ >> http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 >> >> <> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> __ >> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's >> free from AOL at AOL.com. >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 19:07:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3EFD83BEFB; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:07:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: X_32BEYVM1mNTwIoyhot746hnlyqmfmdxCAuDSf9YbpXORbfqXnFINmWuC4I1kIM0vF7MpEIGAC8o_4ydGUMx0v_J6sB3Vl.y8x5l4o60ARrPiRhN7PsDRjE08mkXLQvFpt3NwR0LHOtfDH7Zq.j.71wBw-- Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <8C92B0E7ECDA0A3-F70-7B91@WEBMAIL-RC05.sysops.aol.com> References: <8C92B0E7ECDA0A3-F70-7B91@WEBMAIL-RC05.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <93167BC1-17EA-43D2-BA69-E67C0B505816@infinivert.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Josh Carroll Subject: Re: short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style posted Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:06:51 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:07:00 +0000 (UTC) The issue is that your browser doesn't know that an m4a file should be treated as audio, so it's opening it as text, like an xml file. What you're seeing is the textual representation of the digital audio file. If you will ctrl+click the link in Per's e-mail and save the file to your Mac first, you'll be able to listen to it from there. --Josh On Mar 2, 2007, at 12:19 PM, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > per....your music posts always works on my puter, but this time all > i get is a long page of crazy letters and stuff that comes up when > i hit the link.....i use safari on my emac.....what am i doing > wrong?.....michael > > > www.ct-collective.com > http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 > > <> > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's > free from AOL at AOL.com. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 19:07:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C139A3BEF4; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:07:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=mO9cE+0z3ljrNrOMNJ8/dw+t9AZWy7axGbhYP29Thu8SZriZ+qwcg+x5AllCtQoRnu/HdNGmEoyOBzXIH02fgKFahnGFP7F7We0N6bIbuCkIdboRX668910qHK8xcAutjvkX/gtZnR0FMVp7QP9IdT5U4yFk+du0PljqDAxcR4E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=WAGychnktTERB8XFAnOHRr8rsBPvFBMlaVhjM2eE6rnk+3Iwiqf80WglNBv4h7Z0nQVe0Ray2/4Urv4IEnYf54w5IPU24rUAQfZh90FiVpAM4w6mdkwqLqRR1UDqOAFqbDniLaQjGOOnGgFuSJ8CSylD6l+rHcb5sCX57fEvVLo= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <1375a83df6cad2b576d485873cbdcc9a@gmx.net> References: <1375a83df6cad2b576d485873cbdcc9a@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style posted Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 20:07:43 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:07:53 +0000 (UTC) Here's a temporary page for download: http://www.looproom.com/ temporary.php Right click on the link, or option-click with a Mac to download the file. Yes, it's an AAC file. I kind of like them better because they sound better, are smaller and not locked into patent ownership - as the mp3 format. How embarrassing for Apple that their own browser can't handle their own compression format! ;-) per On 2 mar 2007, at 19.58, nico spahni wrote: > I've just experienced the same problem on my Mac. Here's the > solution: download the file from Per's website and open it in iTunes. > > Nico > > > Am 02.03.2007 um 19:58 schrieb Sheila Olson: > >> Same thing with me. I am also using safari. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 19:09:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA8113BEFB; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:09:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <046801c75cfe$57910980$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: Live Looper on American Idol Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:09:44 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0465_01C75CC3.AA5DCA80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:09:49 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0465_01C75CC3.AA5DCA80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yeah, Blake is one of my AI favorties. He sang a Jamiriqui tune earlier = in the week (Virtual Reality), which I missed because I was traveling. = Damn! I love that group. I tell you one thing, he can scat like a mother f*cker, and any vocalist = who can do that, loop, and not sound like some cheesy, stiff white guy = trying to sound like a black vocliast has my vote. :) Leslie Hunt's = performance and scatting at the end of her tune made me cringe. Yucky, = icky, stuff. Though I still think the girls are kicking the guys asses on American = Idol. Melinda's version of My Funny Valentine gave me the chills. That = girl can really belt it out.=20 Uh oh...did I just reveal that I'm a major AI fan? Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Josh Carroll=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:29 AM Subject: Live Looper on American Idol I haven't followed the show at all, but my wife brought this to my = attention: Audition for American Idol -=20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1Rwe2Q3VXsw Looping performance - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DY2cj8XXzRC8 ------=_NextPart_000_0465_01C75CC3.AA5DCA80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    yeah, Blake is one of my AI = favorties. He sang=20 a Jamiriqui tune earlier in the week (Virtual Reality), which I missed = because I=20 was traveling. Damn! I love that group.
     
    I tell you one thing, he can scat like = a mother=20 f*cker, and any vocalist who can do that, loop, and not sound like some = cheesy,=20 stiff white guy trying to sound like a black vocliast has = my=20 vote. :)   Leslie Hunt's performance and scatting at the end=20 of her tune made me cringe. Yucky, icky, stuff.
     
    Though I still think the girls are = kicking the guys=20 asses on American Idol. Melinda's version of My Funny Valentine gave me = the=20 chills. That girl can really belt it out. 
     
    Uh oh...did I just reveal that I'm a = major AI=20 fan?
     
    Kris
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 Josh=20 Carroll
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
    Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 = 11:29=20 AM
    Subject: Live Looper on = American=20 Idol

    I haven't followed the show at all, but my wife brought = this to=20 my attention:

    Audition for American Idol - 
    http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3D1Rwe2Q3VXsw

    Looping performance -  http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DY2cj8XXzRC8
    ------=_NextPart_000_0465_01C75CC3.AA5DCA80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 19:26:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0F693BEF7; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:26:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: XSz.hC0VM1lskxlh7_0tcs5CGwPsZMa6oHSo3pokoeGsc4sBfjlPSLXw4XcAEpUErvQw8PSyWBhcgMTLGLXsyYmY8J5G4d8j5PfkJSbOWHIEqZ8CoxeyNpl7V1umzd8X0WITD6144SotgLutreu03Y8rWQ-- In-Reply-To: <046801c75cfe$57910980$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <046801c75cfe$57910980$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--864629955 Message-Id: From: Josh Carroll Subject: Re: Live Looper on American Idol Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:26:21 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:26:32 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--864629955 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Ha! I'd sure like to know what pedal(s) he's using to get those cool glitchy stutter-sounds in the second video... Any ideas? --Josh On Mar 2, 2007, at 1:09 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > yeah, Blake is one of my AI favorties. He sang a Jamiriqui tune > earlier in the week (Virtual Reality), which I missed because I was > traveling. Damn! I love that group. > > I tell you one thing, he can scat like a mother f*cker, and any > vocalist who can do that, loop, and not sound like some cheesy, > stiff white guy trying to sound like a black vocliast has my > vote. :) Leslie Hunt's performance and scatting at the end of her > tune made me cringe. Yucky, icky, stuff. > > Though I still think the girls are kicking the guys asses on > American Idol. Melinda's version of My Funny Valentine gave me the > chills. That girl can really belt it out. > > Uh oh...did I just reveal that I'm a major AI fan? > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Josh Carroll > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:29 AM > Subject: Live Looper on American Idol > > I haven't followed the show at all, but my wife brought this to my > attention: > > Audition for American Idol - > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rwe2Q3VXsw > > Looping performance - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2cj8XXzRC8 > --Apple-Mail-1--864629955 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Ha!=A0 I'd sure like to know = what pedal(s) he's using to get those cool glitchy stutter-sounds in the = second video...=A0 Any ideas?

    --Josh


    On Mar 2, = 2007, at 1:09 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:

    yeah,=A0Blake is one of = my AI favorties. He sang a Jamiriqui tune earlier in the week (Virtual = Reality), which I missed because I was traveling. Damn! I love that = group.
    =A0
    =A0
    Though I still think the girls are kicking the guys = asses on American Idol. Melinda's version of My Funny Valentine gave me = the chills. That=A0girl can=A0really belt it = out.=A0
    =A0
    =A0
    =A0
    ----- Original = Message -----
    Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:29 AM
    Subject: Live Looper on American Idol

    I = haven't followed the show at all, but my wife brought this to my = attention:

    Audition = for American Idol -=A0


    = --Apple-Mail-1--864629955-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 19:35:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD6DB3BEEC; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:35:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=hz9RqRBvLIbYjClL4iMhb3SItDUjI7Y986IXalPUVeCpwL43hktGHZsBBMfRWDk9; h=Received:Date:Subject:Content-Type:Mime-Version:From:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:43:45 -0800 Subject: Re: short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style posted Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Sheila Olson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <54FC4A00-C8F6-11DB-BBDE-000393CA38DE@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-ELNK-Trace: 573b2ac3a2420bc9f258f48946e2642d9ef193a6bfc3dd4842339a157545370bb46c770102038eb6a2d4e88014a4647c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.3.211.5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:35:24 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the tech help. Very nice piece, thank you for sharing it with us. joe On Friday, March 2, 2007, at 11:07 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Here's a temporary page for download: > http://www.looproom.com/temporary.php > Right click on the link, or option-click with a Mac to download the > file. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 19:35:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9546B3BF02; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:35:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "greg williams" To: Subject: RE: Live Looper on American Idol Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:35:30 -0800 Message-ID: <000001c75d01$f0508df0$76f8bb43@gwdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acdc/lm3XAcUq3lJSFy6Um/0LT36hQAAukPg In-Reply-To: <046801c75cfe$57910980$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:35:32 +0000 (UTC) >Uh oh...did I just reveal that I'm a major AI fan? =A0 You sure revealed something=85 :) ~Greg ________________________________________ From: Krispen Hartung [mailto:khartung@cableone.net]=20 Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:10 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Live Looper on American Idol yeah,=A0Blake is one of my AI favorties. He sang a Jamiriqui tune = earlier in the week (Virtual Reality), which I missed because I was traveling. = Damn! I love that group. =A0 I tell you one thing, he can scat like a mother f*cker, and any vocalist = who can do that, loop, and not sound like some cheesy, stiff=A0white guy = trying to sound like a black=A0vocliast=A0has my vote. :)=A0=A0 Leslie Hunt's = performance and scatting at the end of=A0her tune made me cringe. Yucky, icky, stuff. =A0 Though I still think the girls are kicking the guys asses on American = Idol. Melinda's version of My Funny Valentine gave me the chills. That=A0girl can=A0really belt it out.=A0 =A0 Uh oh...did I just reveal that I'm a major AI fan? =A0 Kris =A0 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Josh Carroll=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:29 AM Subject: Live Looper on American Idol I haven't followed the show at all, but my wife brought this to my attention:=20 Audition for American Idol -=A0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1Rwe2Q3VXsw Looping performance -=A0=A0http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DY2cj8XXzRC8 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 19:38:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 024333BEF9; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <048c01c75d02$50b1b610$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <046801c75cfe$57910980$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: Re: Live Looper on American Idol Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:38:11 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0489_01C75CC7.A38F3FF0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:38:16 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0489_01C75CC7.A38F3FF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable He was doing some of it live, accupello, on his audition. Are you sure = he wasn't doing it himself? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Josh Carroll=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 12:26 PM Subject: Re: Live Looper on American Idol Ha! I'd sure like to know what pedal(s) he's using to get those cool = glitchy stutter-sounds in the second video... Any ideas? --Josh On Mar 2, 2007, at 1:09 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: yeah, Blake is one of my AI favorties. He sang a Jamiriqui tune = earlier in the week (Virtual Reality), which I missed because I was = traveling. Damn! I love that group. I tell you one thing, he can scat like a mother f*cker, and any = vocalist who can do that, loop, and not sound like some cheesy, stiff = white guy trying to sound like a black vocliast has my vote. :) Leslie = Hunt's performance and scatting at the end of her tune made me cringe. = Yucky, icky, stuff. Though I still think the girls are kicking the guys asses on = American Idol. Melinda's version of My Funny Valentine gave me the = chills. That girl can really belt it out.=20 Uh oh...did I just reveal that I'm a major AI fan? Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: Josh Carroll To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:29 AM Subject: Live Looper on American Idol I haven't followed the show at all, but my wife brought this to my = attention: Audition for American Idol -=20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1Rwe2Q3VXsw Looping performance - = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DY2cj8XXzRC8 ------=_NextPart_000_0489_01C75CC7.A38F3FF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    He was doing some of it live, = accupello, on his=20 audition. Are you sure he wasn't doing it himself?
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20     Josh=20 Carroll
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
    Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 = 12:26=20 PM
    Subject: Re: Live Looper on = American=20 Idol

    Ha!  I'd sure like to know what pedal(s) he's = using to get=20 those cool glitchy stutter-sounds in the second video...  Any = ideas?

    --Josh


    On Mar 2, 2007, at 1:09 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:
    yeah, Blake is = one of my AI=20 favorties. He sang a Jamiriqui tune earlier in the week (Virtual = Reality),=20 which I missed because I was traveling. Damn! I love that=20 group.
     
    I tell you one thing, = he can=20 scat like a mother f*cker, and any vocalist who can do that, loop, = and not=20 sound like some cheesy, stiff white guy trying to sound like a=20 black vocliast has my vote. :)   Leslie Hunt's=20 performance and scatting at the end of her tune made me cringe. = Yucky,=20 icky, stuff.
     
    Though I still think = the girls=20 are kicking the guys asses on American Idol. Melinda's version of My = Funny=20 Valentine gave me the chills. That girl can really belt it = out. 
     
    Uh oh...did I just = reveal that=20 I'm a major AI fan?
     
    Kris
     
    ----- Original = Message=20 -----
    Sent:=20 Friday, March 02, 2007 11:29 AM
    Subject: Live=20 Looper on American Idol

    I haven't followed the show at all, but my wife = brought=20 this to my attention:

    Audition for American Idol - 

    Looping performance -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DY2cj8XXzRC8
    <= /BLOCKQUOTE>

    ------=_NextPart_000_0489_01C75CC7.A38F3FF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 19:39:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EEF3D3BF01; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:39:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1454233046.1172864383186.JavaMail.root@fepweb09> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 11:39:43 -0800 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style posted Cc: Sheila Olson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 66.169.252.252 by mail.charter.net; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 14:39:42 -0500 X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:39:47 +0000 (UTC) Joe and Michael, Download the file to your desktop and click just once on the NAME of the fi= le selecting it.=20 Remove the ".txt" from the end of the filename and leave the ".m4a".=20 It should then play in Quicktime (or iTunes) just fine.=20 Who knows why the file is downloading as a text file (the web is a weird pl= ace sometimes).=20 Cheers, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?p= layListId=3D6378076=20 http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ---- Sheila Olson wrote:=20 > Same thing with me. I am also using safari. >=20 > I notice that your link is coded as M4a file as opposed to Mp3. Could =20 > this be the issue? >=20 > Yours in looping. >=20 > joe >=20 >=20 > On Friday, March 2, 2007, at 10:19 AM, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: >=20 > > per....your music posts always works on my puter, but this time all i = =20 > > get is a long page of crazy letters and stuff that comes up when i hit = =20 > > the link.....i use safari on my emac.....what am i doing =20 > > wrong?.....michael > > > > > > www.ct-collective.com > > http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ > > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 > > > > <> > > > > _______________________________________________________________________= =20 > > _ > > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's =20 > > free from AOL at AOL.com. > > >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 19:41:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E3383BEFB; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:41:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: pd59lYkVM1mAZKcoQBTpST7jDq7yMI82lPD5vfk_dnZQNhC_bBu9DjR1dplg95jJ.QzAJVcV4xeGtvXb_nYmfdMUi2X87_yIDULJmmmJGfGbki_SQcdDzezOJimrF_Lx2pnmbJK81m5rdcg.v8W2TsDiUw-- In-Reply-To: <048c01c75d02$50b1b610$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <046801c75cfe$57910980$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <048c01c75d02$50b1b610$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--863754504 Message-Id: <3203EF45-B8A5-495E-8215-23D53AA352B0@infinivert.com> From: Josh Carroll Subject: Re: Live Looper on American Idol Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 13:40:57 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 19:41:07 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--863754504 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Oh yeah, on the audition video it was all live. On the second video of the performance, though, there are times (toward the end especially) when he pulls the mic away and hits a pedal and makes the sound stutter. Very cool. --Josh On Mar 2, 2007, at 1:38 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > He was doing some of it live, accupello, on his audition. Are you > sure he wasn't doing it himself? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Josh Carroll > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 12:26 PM > Subject: Re: Live Looper on American Idol > > Ha! I'd sure like to know what pedal(s) he's using to get those > cool glitchy stutter-sounds in the second video... Any ideas? > > --Josh > > > On Mar 2, 2007, at 1:09 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> yeah, Blake is one of my AI favorties. He sang a Jamiriqui tune >> earlier in the week (Virtual Reality), which I missed because I >> was traveling. Damn! I love that group. >> >> I tell you one thing, he can scat like a mother f*cker, and any >> vocalist who can do that, loop, and not sound like some cheesy, >> stiff white guy trying to sound like a black vocliast has my >> vote. :) Leslie Hunt's performance and scatting at the end of >> her tune made me cringe. Yucky, icky, stuff. >> >> Though I still think the girls are kicking the guys asses on >> American Idol. Melinda's version of My Funny Valentine gave me the >> chills. That girl can really belt it out. >> >> Uh oh...did I just reveal that I'm a major AI fan? >> >> Kris >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Josh Carroll >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 11:29 AM >> Subject: Live Looper on American Idol >> >> I haven't followed the show at all, but my wife brought this to my >> attention: >> >> Audition for American Idol - >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rwe2Q3VXsw >> >> Looping performance - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2cj8XXzRC8 >> > > --Apple-Mail-2--863754504 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oh yeah, on the audition video = it was all live.=A0 On the second video of the performance, though, = there are times (toward the end especially) when he pulls the mic away = and hits a pedal and makes the sound stutter.=A0 Very cool.

    --Josh


    On Mar 2, 2007, at 1:38 = PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:

    He was doing some of it = live, accupello, on his audition. Are you sure he wasn't doing it = himself?
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 12:26 PM
    Subject: Re: Live Looper on American = Idol

    Ha!=A0 I'd sure like to know what = pedal(s) he's using to get those cool glitchy stutter-sounds in the = second video...=A0 Any ideas?

    --Josh


    On Mar 2, = 2007, at 1:09 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:

    =A0
    I tell you one thing, he can scat like a = mother f*cker, and any vocalist who can do that, loop, and not sound = like some cheesy, stiff=A0white guy trying to sound like a = black=A0vocliast=A0has my vote. :)=A0=A0 Leslie Hunt's performance and = scatting at the end of=A0her tune made me cringe. Yucky, icky, = stuff.
    =A0
    Though I still think the girls are kicking the guys = asses on American Idol. Melinda's version of My Funny Valentine gave me = the chills. That=A0girl can=A0really belt it = out.=A0
    =A0
    Uh oh...did I just reveal that I'm a major AI = fan?
    =A0
    Kris
    =A0
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:

    I haven't followed the show at = all, but my wife brought this to my attention:

    Audition for American Idol = -=A0




    = --Apple-Mail-2--863754504-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 20:40:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 547BE3BEF1; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 20:40:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <1375a83df6cad2b576d485873cbdcc9a@gmx.net> References: <1375a83df6cad2b576d485873cbdcc9a@gmx.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--860203848 Message-Id: From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: short piece of music in a kind of cinematic style posted Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 12:40:08 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 20:40:27 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--860203848 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed You should switch to Firefox. Better, more secure etc, Free. Works great on my G5. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 2-Mar-07, at 10:58 AM, nico spahni wrote: > I've just experienced the same problem on my Mac. Here's the solution: > download the file from Per's website and open it in iTunes. > > Nico > > > Am 02.03.2007 um 19:58 schrieb Sheila Olson: > >> Same thing with me. I am also using safari. >> >> I notice that your link is coded as M4a file as opposed to Mp3. Could >> this be the issue? >> >> Yours in looping. >> >> joe >> >> >> On Friday, March 2, 2007, at 10:19 AM, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: >> >>> per....your music posts always works on my puter, but this time all >>> i get is a long page of crazy letters and stuff that comes up when i >>> hit the link.....i use safari on my emac.....what am i doing >>> wrong?.....michael >>> >>> >>> www.ct-collective.com >>> http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ >>> http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 >>> >>> <> >>> >>> _____________________________________________________________________ >>> ___ >>> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's >>> free from AOL at AOL.com. >>> >> > --Apple-Mail-4--860203848 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII You should switch to Firefox. Better, more secure etc, Free. Works great on my G5. Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 2-Mar-07, at 10:58 AM, nico spahni wrote: I've just experienced the same problem on my Mac. Here's the solution: download the file from Per's website and open it in iTunes. Nico Am 02.03.2007 um 19:58 schrieb Sheila Olson: Same thing with me. I am also using safari. I notice that your link is coded as M4a file as opposed to Mp3. Could this be the issue? Yours in looping. joe On Friday, March 2, 2007, at 10:19 AM, nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: per....your music posts always works on my puter, but this time all i get is a long page of crazy letters and stuff that comes up when i hit the link.....i use safari on my emac.....what am i doing wrong?.....michael www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar11 <<<> ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. --Apple-Mail-4--860203848-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 2 21:47:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E04B33BEF7; Fri, 2 Mar 2007 21:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [86.53.69.125] X-Originating-Email: [thepoetmd@hotmail.com] X-Sender: thepoetmd@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <952063.97724.qm@web52709.mail.yahoo.com> From: "martin daws" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: what looping tool? again Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:47:21 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Mar 2007 21:47:23.0944 (UTC) FILETIME=[5CB4F280:01C75D14] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 21:47:25 +0000 (UTC) thanks for getting back to me. its appreciated md >From: x031661-loopers@yahoo.com >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: what looping tool? again >Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:51:44 -0800 (PST) > >I'd sat the RC-50 is overkill for what you describe. >I've used the digitech jamman and I think it would work well for what you >want to do. > > >----- Original Message ---- >From: martin daws >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Sent: Friday, March 2, 2007 5:37:06 AM >Subject: what looping tool? again > >woops, further to the previous post, i also want to use foot pedals for the >looping, i don't want to be bending over squinting at buttons (or a laptop) >and ignoring the audience, and i want to keep my hands free. >ok. thanks. >md > > > > > >i'm about to enter the loops. could you please advise me as to which >looping >tool(s) will work well for me. this is the spec: >i want to perform spoken word poetry accompanied with improvised vocal >loops. for example, i sing a 4 bar bass loop, then i want this to >continuein >time looping seamlessly (assuming i've hit it on time) while i add a vocal >hi hat. once i've got a few loops working i'll perform the poem live over >the top. the effect i want to generate is of a track growing organically in >real time, so everything drops in from the live recording without any stops >and starts. >i was looking at a boss RC50 - what d'you think? >md > >www.myspace.com/martindawsquintet > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get Messenger FREE on your Mobile https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Match.com - Click Here To Find Singles In Your Area Today! http://match.engb.msn.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 3 05:14:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F5103BEF4; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 05:14:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <2261.69.59.206.219.1172898835.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 21:13:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Live Looper on American Idol From: improv@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-smtp-out.server.peak.org-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-smtp-out.server.peak.org-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-smtp-out.server.peak.org-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.438, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60, NO_REAL_NAME 0.96) X-smtp-out.server.peak.org-MailScanner-From: improv@peak.org X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 05:14:14 +0000 (UTC) > I haven't followed the show at all, but my wife brought this to my > attention: > > Audition for American Idol - > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rwe2Q3VXsw > > Looping performance - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2cj8XXzRC8 We've done some gigs in Seattle with Blake, very talented guy! With his full electronics setup, he can really rock the house on his own. Pretty funny to see him on th Idol, I've usually seen him jamming with people on the more avant end of things. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content, and is believed to be clean. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 3 07:38:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54CD93BEF4; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 07:38:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=LeNxE01eBTJvZNft81on5CBVzX8VQiXx4RegCSZEogq8RJuOhO+zGHkYcvVfixeenFLsmBf/7Nv7Vn/jsqWbz5nYzNOrEqmCxrSQjiazsbVCLuvVwXqjr7me7V2hDlvlWFnI8uUJpGw7DfTvV1G1rLz1uwjW5yyAAI1K0Jo3Ads=; X-YMail-OSG: mkLEY0kVM1mFebq5B3AvMP1yRfy4AlK8ZvBr.TCWbEjrNiFUkJZ1S2AI7md39x6oJpNlcPM4rvCNM5v_tZg8Ch29yFfzQVOTSt_Ox25.zumzShy5E2v524t5V0ze3EapImTP9IdUh8o8RLISt5xjUt7WlA-- Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 23:38:02 -0800 (PST) From: Stephen Scott Subject: Re: what looping tool? again To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-909764759-1172907482=:71763" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <23369.71763.qm@web53010.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 07:38:04 +0000 (UTC) --0-909764759-1172907482=:71763 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Don't forget, though, that the Jamman and RC20XL are both mono devices, so if stereo is an issue, these may not be suitable, martin daws wrote: thanks for getting back to me. its appreciated md >From: x031661-loopers@yahoo.com >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: what looping tool? again >Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:51:44 -0800 (PST) > >I'd sat the RC-50 is overkill for what you describe. >I've used the digitech jamman and I think it would work well for what you >want to do. > > >----- Original Message ---- >From: martin daws >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Sent: Friday, March 2, 2007 5:37:06 AM >Subject: what looping tool? again > >woops, further to the previous post, i also want to use foot pedals for the >looping, i don't want to be bending over squinting at buttons (or a laptop) >and ignoring the audience, and i want to keep my hands free. >ok. thanks. >md > > > > > >i'm about to enter the loops. could you please advise me as to which >looping >tool(s) will work well for me. this is the spec: >i want to perform spoken word poetry accompanied with improvised vocal >loops. for example, i sing a 4 bar bass loop, then i want this to >continuein >time looping seamlessly (assuming i've hit it on time) while i add a vocal >hi hat. once i've got a few loops working i'll perform the poem live over >the top. the effect i want to generate is of a track growing organically in >real time, so everything drops in from the live recording without any stops >and starts. >i was looking at a boss RC50 - what d'you think? >md > >www.myspace.com/martindawsquintet > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get Messenger FREE on your Mobile https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Match.com - Click Here To Find Singles In Your Area Today! http://match.engb.msn.com/ --------------------------------- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. --0-909764759-1172907482=:71763 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Don't forget, though, that the Jamman and RC20XL are both mono devices, so if stereo is an issue, these may not be suitable,

    martin daws <thepoetmd@hotmail.com> wrote:
    thanks for getting back to me.
    its appreciated
    md


    >From: x031661-loopers@yahoo.com
    >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    >Subject: Re: what looping tool? again
    >Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2007 10:51:44 -0800 (PST)
    >
    >I'd sat the RC-50 is overkill for what you describe.
    >I've used the digitech jamman and I think it would work well for what you
    >want to do.
    >
    >
    >----- Original Message ----
    >From: martin daws
    >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    >Sent: Friday, March 2, 2007 5:37:06 AM
    >Subject: what looping tool? again
    >
    >woops, further to the previous post, i also want to use foot pedals for the
    >looping, i don't want to be bending over squinting at buttons (or a laptop)
    >and ignoring the audience, and i want to keep my hands free.
    >ok. thanks.
    >md
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >i'm about to enter the loops. could you please advise me as to which
    >looping
    >tool(s) will work well for me. this is the spec:
    >i want to perform spoken word poetry accompanied with improvised vocal
    >loops. for example, i sing a 4 bar bass loop, then i want this to
    >continuein
    >time looping seamlessly (assuming i've hit it on time) while i add a vocal
    >hi hat. once i've got a few loops working i'll perform the poem live over
    >the top. the effect i want to generate is of a track growing organically in
    >real time, so everything drops in from the live recording without any stops
    >and starts.
    >i was looking at a boss RC50 - what d'you think?
    >md
    >
    >www.myspace.com/martindawsquintet
    >
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Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 23:33:20 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 05:33:24 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--741811251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hey Zoe, I watched the show last night. I enjoyed it and you're right, the production values are excellent. I was glad to see the picture of you during the credits with your web site info. I see that the show has over 1000 subscribers now and I hope it leads a lot of people to your music. Dion On Mar 1, 2007, at 1:43 PM, Zoe Keating wrote: > Today is the premier of the internet-only "TV" show, Stranger > Things. My song "Exurgency" is the theme music for the show (those > of you who've seen me live in the last few months have heard me > perform it live). From what I've seen of the show so far its > beautifully shot in HD. Like you could touch the characters through > your screen. --Apple-Mail-2--741811251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Hey Zoe,

    I watched the show last = night. I enjoyed it and you're right, the production values are = excellent. I was glad to see the picture of you during the credits with = your web site info. I see that the show has over 1000 subscribers now = and I hope it leads a lot of people to your music.

    Dion


    On Mar 1, = 2007, at 1:43 PM, Zoe Keating wrote:

    Today is the premier of the = internet-only "TV" show, Stranger Things. My song "Exurgency" is the = theme music for the show (those of you who've seen me live in the last = few months have heard me perform it live). =46rom what I've seen of the = show so far its beautifully shot in HD. Like you could touch the = characters through your screen.

    =

    = --Apple-Mail-2--741811251-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 4 05:45:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D06C63BEFF; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 05:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: MeeWFjwVM1llu2Mxfa787ksujvRuaoc2JoBcH56KqKbAWbufPWNi53wRN3D4H7TjpNt4yX_TGjNNIo_7q_pzvpA2dNRE6oJr7gcfFVWvKBWPpabnzzhx1ctCYuzzQzK7QwXqH3Qaazm7ulwmFCU1j2sC Message-ID: <001901c75e20$47f8f190$4201a8c0@MichaelPlishka> From: "Michael Plishka" To: References: <3F4C19BD-99F6-40EA-AAAE-904B15C705B9@zoekeating.com> <161F408D-43BC-4E49-9779-961C269645E8@visi.com> Subject: OT New meditative looping song for download is up Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2007 23:45:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01C75DED.FC87F7B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 05:45:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C75DED.FC87F7B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please feel free to check out and download Preterpivij, a meditative = type of song... It's at www.myspace.com/bohdanovich ~peace~ Michael Plishka aka Bohdanovich www.myspace.com/michaelplishka ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C75DED.FC87F7B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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    ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C75DED.FC87F7B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 4 16:09:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 042F03BEFF; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 16:09:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-UNTD-OriginStamp: wE15mMxaCGdImpQmRPxb5MIxRGSncyRg6CXsb/7UL9a7THb4VFSt8w== X-Originating-IP: [71.164.42.230] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Weg" Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 16:06:51 GMT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT New meditative looping song for download is up X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="--__JWM__J402a.20b4S.0597M" Message-Id: <20070304.080751.26494.2062654@webmail51.nyc.untd.com> X-ContentStamp: 2:1:709750476 X-MAIL-INFO:115e5edff7ab3afaabdecadf3a3aca2f3377bb4a5a13bb33a7e38393839f7e X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.141.27.191|webmail51.nyc.untd.com|webmail51.nyc.untd.com|theweg@netzero.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 16:09:02 +0000 (UTC) ----__JWM__J402a.20b4S.0597M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain This felt spiritual to me, very meditative! Good work! = Weg www.myspace.com\noyestheater = ----__JWM__J402a.20b4S.0597M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/html

    This felt spiritual to me, very meditative!   Good wo= rk!

     

    Weg

    www.myspace.com\noyes= theater

     

    ----__JWM__J402a.20b4S.0597M-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 4 16:13:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 355363BF01; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 16:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: EUNZvBMVM1mxX672VacCdE6pJPsl_aIjdOjPr3rDwXYTqaaMr0IFfup.XvzguHXTO6m8OIoi0N5TEON8ipL8_1QxP5M0BD5MQ8Y4jgejJsXT7d.GlJt0z5CoyHyytuiGMTTQqgfvaUtGVVivCVjoe9FfVA-- Message-ID: <000d01c75e77$e70da9e0$4201a8c0@MichaelPlishka> From: "Michael Plishka" To: References: <20070304.080751.26494.2062654@webmail51.nyc.untd.com> Subject: Re: OT New meditative looping song for download is up Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 10:12:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C75E45.99DA1870" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 16:13:00 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C75E45.99DA1870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Weg! ~peace~ Plish ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Weg=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 10:06 AM Subject: Re: OT New meditative looping song for download is up This felt spiritual to me, very meditative! Good work! Weg www.myspace.com\noyestheater ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C75E45.99DA1870 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Thanks Weg!
     
    ~peace~
     
    Plish
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 Weg
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
    Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 = 10:06=20 AM
    Subject: Re: OT New meditative = looping=20 song for download is up

    This felt spiritual to me, very meditative!   Good = work!

     

    Weg

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    ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C75E45.99DA1870-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 4 17:59:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB0743BF06; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 17:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: mackie SRM 150's Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 12:59:02 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 24019 Message-Id: <8C92C9DED0DF383-11C8-1971@WEBMAIL-MC08.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 64.12.170.85 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: <7Umri.A.XgE.ujw6FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 17:59:11 +0000 (UTC) i'd love to trade my 2 srm 450's for 4 of the srm 150's.....thoughts? http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 4 18:00:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DCF883BF00; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:00:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=0H+5g8yN9avy79guM0G4x9I166FvqLTf7XPQ7sqy+ZKGuMWWEMW1WFolZHKQn0zmK28xbMQnVCOzN1Y/rVuOQw8nJFQTLYxxhamXlCg5S7z3Kz2XUUIpkljD6T2+DtxN2UaHSSXXA1J0NgporqCDlbZcFt22IC1T0wqfpLsT5Nc=; X-YMail-OSG: fo_kD7gVM1l3x7rLzIqQPLkFMraOA0aTgEqqBTJu4vkUKv0_k9jcDqoPs8gH6_u6q5ny8GAv_R30W9.H2xrmgdz8tH_8RoG3b5ddSKX7cY_yqmeyRl9FFGK.5sP93ua.PNjd1tVfhyh7WUHcGNmgkw-- Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 19:00:01 +0100 (CET) From: rune fagereng Subject: Live-looping on youtube To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com, midiguitar@yahoogroups.com, repeater-users@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <875683.32681.qm@web26211.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:00:04 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! I have just posted a video on youtube - with me jamming with my Mac - ableton - repeater and the dl4. Its my own tune "remember". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOHN4az59A0 best regards Rune Fagereng - Norway www.runefagereng.com www.runefagereng.com Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Mob: 917 95 867 _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 4 18:08:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03EA23BEFF; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:08:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <076a01c75e88$15afe280$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <8C92C9DED0DF383-11C8-1971@WEBMAIL-MC08.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: mackie SRM 150's Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 11:08:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: <9MJIAD.A.8JF.Tsw6FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:08:19 +0000 (UTC) What are the SRM 150s? Have the 450's two...the powered 10". I love them. kris ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 10:59 AM Subject: mackie SRM 150's > i'd love to trade my 2 srm 450's for 4 of the srm 150's.....thoughts? > > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 > www.ct-collective.com > http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at AOL.com. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 4 18:22:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 829EC3BF06; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:22:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "Andrew Koenig" To: Subject: RE: mackie SRM 150's Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 13:23:12 -0500 Message-ID: <001d01c75e8a$2b217820$6402a8c0@arkdesktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 In-Reply-To: <076a01c75e88$15afe280$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcdeiBe6nU57kLqeTn+XwGYG+ZbqpQAAfpUg Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 18:22:13 +0000 (UTC) > What are the SRM 150s? Have the 450's two...the powered 10". I love them. http://mackie.com/products/srm150/ Mini PA -- 150 watts, 100-17K frequency response, 7.6 pounds, USD 300. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 4 19:29:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13B823BEFF; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 19:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=jx+QDuBBz4y3f+MEMMcnLCM/QSbSAwKk8cBL1Y8wwKC7D+H2k9I8Ivy/XjujDLgoJnD5CIpyUvqZrnI1JGU71Jdsmm7FjJOGgrft/tQ8S9+uaJtZ9NmS7U4HDWRRTxUtVa1awaAE/RZeqCldCnZ9zX9HE4Jql0kET2Ay2S1RTTM=; X-YMail-OSG: aOFTUIIVM1nj4l4KqyI9EhDcyMqulavOl_A4ufsHgS51ALKV5hEgv52_YWYmbuj0nZi8sTeqq_sNu5WiwchMRRqKhRCBigb8bGGPmbn35Uvgarc50IRixkQYYMXouBFhFSdk._QbyL75DDIe4D3s7dq0oA-- Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 11:29:44 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: OT: Total Lunar Eclipse Tonight To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <004d01c75dc6$14c9dd70$0207a8c0@eluk1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <456451.99709.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <9t0_9C.A.KRB.p4x6FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 19:29:46 +0000 (UTC) i saw it sitting in front of the fire,very beautiful! peace Luis --- Stephen Goodman wrote: > For those of us who care: > > Tonight the moon will be totally eclipsed > world-wide. Check your times! > http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/myspace/nightsky/observingnotes.shtml > > S. > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 4 19:57:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DD1B43BF05; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 19:57:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "Andrew Koenig" To: Subject: RE: mackie SRM 150's Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 14:58:49 -0500 Message-ID: <002501c75e97$873a0e30$6402a8c0@arkdesktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 In-Reply-To: <001d01c75e8a$2b217820$6402a8c0@arkdesktop> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcdeiBe6nU57kLqeTn+XwGYG+ZbqpQAAfpUgAANHMIA= Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 19:57:50 +0000 (UTC) > http://mackie.com/products/srm150/ > Mini PA -- 150 watts, 100-17K frequency response, 7.6 pounds, USD 300. By the way, here's the competition: http://www.tc-helicon.tc/Default.asp?Id=7274 Same price, approximately same size. It would be interesting to hear them side by side. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 4 20:03:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5218F3BF08; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 20:03:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=mOYazK5y6wAnyZ2C9irs+WlNwnSavU9JA4R0ijBqgZVgW0ldKtcPE72XuxSMg21mD5OXrsVAyTRTD/QaZPfTDWCXqp7rnaYJ+jKcQBUUJidSBd2AVf4C3yoRY0pg+bSOffKvoP3u2XuflW+N1nlVrGlNUbExnfEfA+HbqoqwAsA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=FlmLg9y+DJGXwhHlq/sFLOipNk+v47GuedJ+yP+jnCrbSeJ8YAPAQui5X4Q88glJLiRd+tc+yUJCceoyVSTekWp5P/VYfTlpjV1czBK5b998IpL+R5AAVHtFPRQZq4LagklGgjU6d57Qffl8coFOqyOmnpw5TAZ8NevVr5s8+Bk= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <456451.99709.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <456451.99709.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: OT: Total Lunar Eclipse Tonight Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 21:03:24 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 20:03:30 +0000 (UTC) You Italians are so civilized! ;-) I was lucky to look at my watch exactly right on time and ran out on the street in way too cold clothes (snowy dark bright winter night) to have a peep at "the orange colored moon" but it looked just the same as usual. Don't know if I was on wrong timing or geographically offside for the show, but I enjoyed it anyway ;-)) The web site was fascinating and simply knowing things like that do happen once on a time out there is inspiring. Thanks for the tip. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) On 4 mar 2007, at 20.29, L.A. Angulo wrote: > i saw it sitting in front of the fire,very beautiful! > peace > Luis > > > > --- Stephen Goodman wrote: > >> For those of us who care: >> >> Tonight the moon will be totally eclipsed >> world-wide. Check your times! >> > http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/myspace/nightsky/ > observingnotes.shtml >> >> S. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 4 21:36:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA1693BF01; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 21:36:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: Subject: RE: mackie SRM 150's Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 13:36:14 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <002501c75e97$873a0e30$6402a8c0@arkdesktop> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcdeiBe6nU57kLqeTn+XwGYG+ZbqpQAAfpUgAANHMIAAA2UtUA== Message-Id: <200703041338265.SM03880@quahome> X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: D3c6d026100004ab5.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 21:36:10 +0000 (UTC) While you're at it, check out EV's products in this size. I'm giving some thought to the Mackie 150's, plus a sub, for my 'multiple speaker' setup -Qua -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Koenig [mailto:ark@acm.org] Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 11:59 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: mackie SRM 150's > http://mackie.com/products/srm150/ > Mini PA -- 150 watts, 100-17K frequency response, 7.6 pounds, USD 300. By the way, here's the competition: http://www.tc-helicon.tc/Default.asp?Id=7274 Same price, approximately same size. It would be interesting to hear them side by side. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 4 22:07:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF2633BF06; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 22:07:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: Subject: RE: mackie SRM 150's Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 14:08:00 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <200703041338265.SM03880@quahome> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcdeiBe6nU57kLqeTn+XwGYG+ZbqpQAAfpUgAANHMIAAA2UtUAAAvoGQ Message-Id: <200703041410140.SM00876@quahome> X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: D43df022300004fb1.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 22:07:58 +0000 (UTC) Oops, I was thinking of the SRM350 http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SRM350/ -----Original Message----- From: Qua Veda [mailto:qua@oregon.com] Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 1:36 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: mackie SRM 150's While you're at it, check out EV's products in this size. I'm giving some thought to the Mackie 150's, plus a sub, for my 'multiple speaker' setup -Qua -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Koenig [mailto:ark@acm.org] Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 11:59 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: mackie SRM 150's > http://mackie.com/products/srm150/ > Mini PA -- 150 watts, 100-17K frequency response, 7.6 pounds, USD 300. By the way, here's the competition: http://www.tc-helicon.tc/Default.asp?Id=7274 Same price, approximately same size. It would be interesting to hear them side by side. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 4 23:37:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 111603BF01; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 23:37:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <07de01c75eb6$134e8400$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <200703041338265.SM03880@quahome> Subject: Re: mackie SRM 150's Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 16:37:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_07DB_01C75E7B.6642F140" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: <8Kle6D.A.jxE.9g16FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2007 23:37:34 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_07DB_01C75E7B.6642F140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I love the EV's. I have the SRM 450's, which I use for floor monitors, = and then I have two EV SxA100 powered 1X12 cabs...they kick ass: http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear/ev100.jpg They are discontinued now and have a replacement, which I'm sure is good = too. I'm a huge fan of EV cabs. All I need is one powered sub, and I have a comlete system, along with = my Mackie 1642-VLZ Pro Mixer Board Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Qua Veda" To: Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 2:36 PM Subject: RE: mackie SRM 150's > While you're at it, check out EV's products in this size. >=20 > I'm giving some thought to the Mackie 150's, plus a sub, for my = 'multiple > speaker' setup > -Qua > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Koenig [mailto:ark@acm.org]=20 > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 11:59 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: mackie SRM 150's >=20 >> http://mackie.com/products/srm150/ >=20 >> Mini PA -- 150 watts, 100-17K frequency response, 7.6 pounds, USD = 300. >=20 > By the way, here's the competition: >=20 > http://www.tc-helicon.tc/Default.asp?Id=3D7274 >=20 > Same price, approximately same size. It would be interesting to hear = them > side by side. >=20 >=20 >=20 > ------=_NextPart_000_07DB_01C75E7B.6642F140 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    I love the EV's. I have the SRM 450's, = which I use=20 for floor monitors, and then I have two EV SxA100 powered 1X12 = cabs...they kick=20 ass:
     
     
    They are discontinued now and have a = replacement,=20 which I'm sure is good too. I'm a huge fan of EV cabs.
     
    All I need is one powered sub, and I = have a comlete=20 system, along with my Mackie 1642-VLZ Pro Mixer Board
     
    Kris
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Qua Veda" <qua@oregon.com>
    To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
    Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 2:36 = PM
    Subject: RE: mackie SRM = 150's

    > While you're at it,  check out EV's products in this=20 size.
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    > I'm giving some thought to the Mackie 150's, plus = a=20 sub,  for my 'multiple
    > speaker' setup
    > -Qua
    >=20 -----Original Message-----
    > From: Andrew Koenig = [mailto:ark@acm.org]=20
    > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 11:59 AM
    > To:     Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    > Subject: RE: mackie SRM 150's
    >
    >> =     http://mackie.com/products/srm150/
    >
    >> Mini PA -- 150 watts, 100-17K frequency = response, 7.6=20 pounds, USD 300.
    >
    > By the way, here's the = competition:
    >=20
    >     http://www.tc-helicon.tc/Default.asp?Id=3D7274
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    > Same price, approximately same = size.  It=20 would be interesting to hear them
    > side by side.
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    > ------=_NextPart_000_07DB_01C75E7B.6642F140-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 08:55:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DCEA3BF0A; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 08:55:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1173084241.45ebd851db55e@webmail.m3ch.net> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 02:44:01 -0600 From: Mech To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Qua Veda Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: mackie SRM 150's References: <200703041338265.SM03880@quahome> In-Reply-To: <200703041338265.SM03880@quahome> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 58.181.138.75 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 08:55:24 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Qua Veda : > >> From: Andrew Koenig [mailto:ark@acm.org] >> > >> > http://mackie.com/products/srm150/ >> > >> > Mini PA -- 150 watts, 100-17K frequency response, 7.6 pounds, USD 300. >> >> By the way, here's the competition: >> >> http://www.tc-helicon.tc/Default.asp?Id=7274 > > While you're at it, check out EV's products in this size. Also, there's the Roland CM-30 Cube Monitor ( http://www.roland.com/products/en/CM-30/index.html ). Goes for about $175 street. I've got two that I'm using together in a stereo pair with a crossover and sub for a 2.1 setup. They work pretty well for what they do -- nice clarity and volume without getting 'crispy' up at the top end. Their biggest weakness is that they really start to roll off below about 200-300hz. If you're playing guitar, for instance, they sound great; nice and clean. They won't do nearly as well with bass, although they don't start to break up or fart unless you hit them really hard in the lows. I use the crossover to whack everything below about 400hz and send it to a single Gemini GX-350 (about the same as the Mackie SRM-450), which has a 12" and can handle down to ~40hz. Setup sounds great, although if I knew for a fact that I was sticking to the same frequency range as a guitar, vocals, or most wind instruments, I'd have no issue with merely taking the two Cubes by themselves. They're also ultra-portable -- only a few pounds apiece. --m. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 10:03:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2BEE13BF0D; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:03:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1173088303.45ebe82f7d3a8@webmail.m3ch.net> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 03:51:43 -0600 From: Mech To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: MIDI CC Resolution (was: Considering building an ultimate looper...) References: <20070217230220.2080E38102@astra.telenet-ops.be> <45DC37F1.8010700@addcom.de> <1172077856.45dc7d2014846@webmail.musetrap.com> In-Reply-To: <1172077856.45dc7d2014846@webmail.musetrap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 58.181.138.75 Resent-Message-ID: <8QVKJ.A.Mn.Zr-6FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:03:06 +0000 (UTC) Quoting cpr@musetrap.com: > > One solution to this is to map the Pitch Wheel command (0xE0-0xEF) > to volume..the Pitch Wheel command is 14bits, 0-16383.. no new > hardware needed.. of course there is only 1 of these per channel, > and 16 channels per cable (or device), but one should be able to > work with that as well.. And, as well, the receiving device has to > be able to work with this as well, so your milage may vary.. My > reworking of the MIDI support in the LP1 supports this.. CPR, My understanding is that it isn't actually the MIDI Spec at fault here. From what I can see, there are multiple Continuous Controllers that are designed to be used in MSB/LSB pairs (just as the Pitch Wheel command is designed) in order to provide much more discrete resolution than merely 7 bits. IIRC, controller #'s 46-63 were originally designated for use as the LSB for CC's 14-31, and then 101/100 & 99/98 were explicitly matched into MSB/LSB pairs. I'm sure there are others that I'm forgetting here (aren't there 'unused' LSB's for things like Mod Wheel and Breath Control?) too. So, would I then be correct in assuming the biggest deficiency here would actually be in the fact that few, if any, MIDI control devices (faders, footpedals, whatever...) will send matched pairs for anything other than Pitch Wheel? Of course, the receiving device has to be able to make sense of the data stream as well. However, I'm assuming that if you can reprogram the MIDI support in the LP-1 to accept MSB/LSB from the Pitch Wheel, it would be a reasonably simple matter to do the same for a different pair of CC numbers. If the LP-1 *could* accomodate greater resolution from using such pairs, is there any device out there that could actually send them? --m. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 10:30:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8435A3BF0F; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45EBF140.7090601@addcom.de> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 11:30:24 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: vst [audio >> mid] References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Raul Bonell wrote: > does anybody know of a vst plugin able to convert an audio file or > direct input to any kinf of midi data? I could probably make you one, especialy as you say "any kind of midi data" I'd put up a 128 bin fft, have a envelope follower for each bin which would trigger random notes with aftertouch... Probably nothing anybody (including me) had ever heard before... ;-) But if you believe you could feed the Brandenburg concerto of Bach into a plug and expect it to convert it to proper mididata which would play along..., pretty hard... You could automatically transcribe monophonic lines to a certain extent, it's much less fun than "any kind of midi data" though... ;-) Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 10:50:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C586F3BF10; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:50:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=YiwhtqUNcY887OwKTpU6hHodTBmyAe9AN+PTXeSS/znYKr0bbqUVti4wWxkkx1IOOJpd3ndOU0Ev2bXg1Un5hDiwxQNEqeASyLAq0b/8BluUBoh624Ew5kJH5XZh0olNZ2TokePE1Zo9WFj18sxf1VHtMEiduI+naOMSqB1+vZE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=SyNguCdzVZNqu9djuAXvukoOFjZC8It+Wg83XfCwJrjlx3Chw7Hmj1QjByj0X9I3sb/Llp3pSdYNaJaNL5m8NVSSi2wgcY7v7fgRWQc/McD39OXPKgOgmklMqQN4TRvJiF1GgjX0EbPfQsZdMWJH+WDhSP7cpBXS+5p8/MrRKHA= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45EBF140.7090601@addcom.de> References: <45EBF140.7090601@addcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <03678B57-8F41-40C0-BA98-F108D488A168@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: vst [audio >> mid] Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:50:46 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <0aEc0D.A.saC.MY_6FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:50:52 +0000 (UTC) > Raul Bonell wrote: >> does anybody know of a vst plugin able to convert an audio file or >> direct input to any kinf of midi data? The ability of converting an audio file into MIDI data is a lot more common in contemporary music software than converting a real-time audio stream into MIDI data. I have tried converting files to MIDI note data plus controllers with Celemony and it worked extremely well. But since you ask specifically for the VST format, I'm not sure I can recommend Celomony. Check with their website if they offer it as VST. It's a quite expensive as well. I have also used the audio file to MIDI note conversion that is built into Apple Logic and it works well. Not "extremely" well, as with Celemony that can also add CC's for vibrato etc) but good enough for tricks like creating a MIDI sequence out of a lead vocal recording and patch up some string synth sound to double the vocal melody. I'm talking only monophonic signals here. Although Celemony boasts polyphonic conversion in their new plug-in, but I have not had the time to test that yet. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 11:30:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 849BE3BF16; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:30:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <03678B57-8F41-40C0-BA98-F108D488A168@gmail.com> References: <45EBF140.7090601@addcom.de> <03678B57-8F41-40C0-BA98-F108D488A168@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <578CC3C1-0C85-41FD-BF04-43B8FCF631E5@bernhardwagner.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bernhard Wagner LD Subject: Re: vst [audio >> mid] Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:30:06 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:30:11 +0000 (UTC) http://crca.ucsd.edu/~tapel/software.html ~fiddle max/msp object for pitch following. There's also a link to a technical paper on that page ""Real-time audio analysis tools for Pd and MSP"" There's also a percussion follower (~bonk) Both apparently come with source code... Bernhard On 05.03.2007, at 11:50, Per Boysen wrote: >> Raul Bonell wrote: >>> does anybody know of a vst plugin able to convert an audio file or >>> direct input to any kinf of midi data? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 15:22:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE1D63BF18; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:22:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003001c75f3a$1dc5e980$0d0ba8c0@AMD01> From: "arcmotion" To: Subject: rc50 patches Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:22:41 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002D_01C75F7D.2BA65420" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.2826 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:22:52 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C75F7D.2BA65420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i have just noticed some talk on changing patches on the rc50.... in = fact it has a pedal setting to move from one to the other but i have = noticed that if you take a perfect loop and copy it you cannot move from = one to the other without a definite pause. The digitech jamman however can move move between prerecorded patches = ...no problem but seemingly the rc50 cannot. So unless im missing something the rc50 is limited to the three phrases = within a patch but the jamman can have 99 ...go figure. ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C75F7D.2BA65420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    i have just noticed some talk on = changing patches=20 on the rc50.... in fact it has a pedal setting to move from one to the = other but=20 i have noticed that if you take a perfect loop and copy it you cannot = move from=20 one to the other without a definite pause.
     
    The digitech jamman however can = move move=20 between prerecorded patches ...no problem but seemingly the rc50=20 cannot.
     
    So unless im missing something the rc50 = is limited=20 to the three phrases within a patch but the jamman can have 99 ...go=20 figure.
    ------=_NextPart_000_002D_01C75F7D.2BA65420-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 16:02:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA6AC3BF18; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:02:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <005101c75f3f$af761bc0$0207a8c0@eluk1> From: "Stephen Goodman" To: References: <456451.99709.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: OT: Total Lunar Eclipse Tonight Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:02:31 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:02:36 +0000 (UTC) I hopped up on the roof just before it started at 2130, f**king cold in the wind up there! Despite a little brain damage on the part of the Sony camcorder regarding exposure settings, I got it all the way through totality, before 7-year-old batteries lied to me, saying that there was more time than actually remained. Zoink, off went the thing. I got it zoomed in, though thanks to the exposure problem it looks a bit grainy, and I had to correct gamma to see the rusty color of the moon. All that has to be dealt with is the constant panning to fit in-frame, which one can adjust during later editing to make everything centered. Wrote a blueprint for a long piece while up there, puffing away and moving the camera, and occasionally speaking line-of-thought pseudo-poetry into the mic on the camcorder. There will be drums in this piece - and since my finger's much, much better (though not perfect, as I'm still getting used to not avoiding the use of it while playing), it shouldn't be too long before the new untitled piece is available in audio *and* video. :) From: "Per Boysen" > You Italians are so civilized! ;-) I was lucky to look at my watch > exactly right on time and ran out on the street in way too cold clothes > (snowy dark bright winter night) to have a peep at "the orange colored > moon" but it looked just the same as usual. Don't know if I was on wrong > timing or geographically offside for the show, but I enjoyed it anyway > ;-)) The web site was fascinating and simply knowing things like that > do happen once on a time out there is inspiring. Thanks for the tip. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) > > > On 4 mar 2007, at 20.29, L.A. Angulo wrote: > >> i saw it sitting in front of the fire,very beautiful! >> peace >> Luis >> >> >> >> --- Stephen Goodman wrote: >> >>> For those of us who care: >>> >>> Tonight the moon will be totally eclipsed >>> world-wide. Check your times! >>> >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/space/myspace/nightsky/ observingnotes.shtml >>> >>> S. > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 16:08:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EF9B3BF14; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:08:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=WQZZBOJE58paVJr2vPrd5zkxGYAggqyIvGoBLE1/Rca3MTRtLSbfNaxFFz8aK3rd; h=Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE:Message-ID:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Reply-To: From: "Tom Heasley" To: Subject: FW: FW: Total Lunar Eclipse Tonight Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 08:08:22 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01C75EFD.71CCEA20" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcdenNCKjfNG4LH2QG+EAt1skeDJNgAo44vg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Message-ID: X-ELNK-Trace: a45d7fbcd5996e0dec0773e6e8d709339ef193a6bfc3dd48660a6cdc959ff75e553f96868b4b1e105bff31af8927e75a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 76.171.185.199 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:08:24 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C75EFD.71CCEA20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I sent Stephen's post to an astronomer friend and received this reply. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tom Heasley www.tomheasley.com www.myspace.com/tomheasley www.myspace.com/heasleypanosduo _____ Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 12:36 PM To: tom@tomheasley.com Subject: Re: FW: Total Lunar Eclipse Tonight About a week ago I got the idea of emailing you guys all about the upcoming lunar eclipse last Sat. night. I looked up the times of ingress and egress for the various stages etc etc .In so doing it did not take me long to realize that the event was not visible in the western half of the country and even on the east coast the moon would be in eclilpse as it rose. And as it turned out it was cloudy over much of the east so no one saw much of anything. The next lunar eclipse is set for August 28th and that one is going to be visible much more favorably from N. America. ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C75EFD.71CCEA20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    I sent = Stephen’s post to an astronomer friend and received this = reply.

     

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    Sent: = Sunday, March 04, 2007 12:36 PM
    To: = tom@tomheasley.com
    Subject: Re: FW: Total = Lunar Eclipse Tonight

     

    About a week ago I got the idea of emailing you guys = all about the             &= nbsp; upcoming lunar eclipse last  Sat. night. I looked up the times of ingress = and egress for the various stages etc etc .In so doing it did not take me = long to realize that the event was not visible in the western half of the = country and even  on the east coast the moon would be in eclilpse as it rose.  And as it turned out it was cloudy over much of the east so no one = saw much of anything. The next lunar eclipse is set for August 28th =  and that one is going to be visible much more favorably from N. America.

    ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C75EFD.71CCEA20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 16:17:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74B8E3BF26; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:17:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:17:20 EST Subject: mpeg4 into mp3 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d22.14b529e.331d9c90_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:17:32 +0000 (UTC) --part1_d22.14b529e.331d9c90_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit per has been trying to help me change mpeg4's into mp3's but we have had no sucess.....i googled this and found some sw that costs some $ and i tried as per suggested to put the mpeg into "quicktime" and save it as an mp3 but i would have to buy an upgrade.....any ideas.....i use a emac and all my music is in i-tunes.....i really want to get some tunes up on myspace so i can be kool like all you cats.....thnaks.....michael www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. --part1_d22.14b529e.331d9c90_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable per has been trying to help me change m= peg4's into mp3's but we have had no sucess.....i googled this and found som= e sw that costs some $ and i tried as per suggested to put the mpeg into "qu= icktime" and save it as an mp3 but i would have to buy an upgrade.....any id= eas.....i use a emac and all my music is in i-tunes.....i really want to get= some tunes up on myspace so i can be kool like all you cats.....thnaks.....= michael

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    AOL=20= now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL= at http://www.aol.com. --part1_d22.14b529e.331d9c90_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 16:23:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98C163BF30; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:23:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=CmnFwnu+sUBa0zphTlmQyPHW0mzL5ko8a8oaGlH4pVb1pKxh6F8BAV6E14AuP9e7edYW6pN811pNhRR+unjwlguZZ5ogO+FhXfOC8nOHoQiWlnJU7jsnybInyxVtMeB1hkkR8wIAtqNjjzboH1Lmh6As2vrACL9UTM1YOjnIKfk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KhEoPVLUwhVZPjSSMRwsZwSr9ehdVnSb513d6ChVMgIrhB79L+P0wOGTix7u6AOa0mnoBfxZ27wz8Gn38KJN6YbNMK4VdH0C8mc9PoDpBUAhxoidFD728gBnu8B1X8t4ODySiWdL0t5/qzD02+Uwn9lZZzfcCxBvYXGuaiFpC4U= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:23:42 -0500 From: "Grahame Davies" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mpeg4 into mp3 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_24086_26380963.1173111822463" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:23:43 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_24086_26380963.1173111822463 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This would probably work, using iTunes: Set your iTunes preference to "import to 192 mp3" Copy your file into iTunes (it'll still be an MP4) Go to Advanced > Convert to MP3 You should see a copy of the file, now an MP3 Done. Hope that helps! -- Grahame On 3/5/07, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > > per has been trying to help me change mpeg4's into mp3's but we have had > no sucess.....i googled this and found some sw that costs some $ and i tried > as per suggested to put the mpeg into "quicktime" and save it as an mp3 but > i would have to buy an upgrade.....any ideas.....i use a emac and all my > music is in i-tunes.....i really want to get some tunes up on myspace so i > can be kool like all you cats.....thnaks.....michael > > www.ct-collective.com > http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 > > > > ************************************** > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------=_Part_24086_26380963.1173111822463 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
     
    This would probably work, using iTunes:
     
    Set your iTunes preference to "import to 192 mp3"
     
    Copy your file into iTunes (it'll still be an MP4)
     
    Go to Advanced > Convert to MP3
     
    You should see a copy of the file, now an MP3
     
    Done.
     
     
    Hope that helps!
     
    -- Grahame
     
     


     
    On 3/5/07, Nemoguitt@aol.com <Nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
    per has been trying to help me change mpeg4's into mp3's but we have had no sucess.....i googled this and found some sw that costs some $ and i tried as per suggested to put the mpeg into "quicktime" and save it as an mp3 but i would have to buy an upgrade.....any ideas.....i use a emac and all my music is in i-tunes.....i really want to get some tunes up on myspace so i can be kool like all you cats.....thnaks.....michael

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    http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10


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    ------=_Part_24086_26380963.1173111822463-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 16:27:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F28373BF36; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:27:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:27:06 EST Subject: Re: mpeg4 into mp3 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cfe.aeea986.331d9eda_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:27:27 +0000 (UTC) --part1_cfe.aeea986.331d9eda_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i just went to my i-tnes preferences and could not find that option.....am i looking in the right place?.....m www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. --part1_cfe.aeea986.331d9eda_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i just went to my i-tnes preferences an= d could not find that option.....am i looking in the right place?.....m





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    AOL=20= now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL= at http://www.aol.com. --part1_cfe.aeea986.331d9eda_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 16:29:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2CF93BF1A; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:29:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=efv65uGfGYH8VYUiDaUuBLFKjXHeYrT7VyqZdkmnTFPiVacAUeUyvP/kFJYA2axu79aMZ4sxuABOC4uSqGBXYFunHiakqz96mkQdYHnJZv2f1LlVEKP5R+k6CvNDXOT6tQLYI6Lp/PzKV50/8Wu8of4A8Ezgh46cGVn1ySYTRTQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GKjZm3/zsGx2ICtqo22nl/AWNoDDKoRtWULVkklAf+jvJbqXGEhHNKz9p9HNeqAZp360a+TeCDmjeyQHkrVW9DbnOpHna7aqIirHdBrEnAcLqXqiZJHH85FZFASRUx/qreJ7lVOHPkrPPpguiZl3oyP1kxXNPPEHP57qjOos2sA= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 11:29:43 -0500 From: "Grahame Davies" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mpeg4 into mp3 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_24110_11178779.1173112183850" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:29:45 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_24110_11178779.1173112183850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Open Preferences Look for the Advanced tab In there, look for the Import tab There's a drop down menu for format, bitrate etc Try that, let me know if it works - Grahame On 3/5/07, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > > i just went to my i-tnes preferences and could not find that option.....am > i looking in the right place?.....m > > > > > > www.ct-collective.com > http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 > > > > ************************************** > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------=_Part_24110_11178779.1173112183850 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
     
     
    Open Preferences
     
    Look for the Advanced tab
     
    In there, look for the Import tab
     
    There's a drop down menu for format, bitrate etc
     
    Try that, let me know if it works
     
    - Grahame
     
     


     
    On 3/5/07, Nemoguitt@aol.com <Nemoguitt@aol.com> wrote:
    i just went to my i-tnes preferences and could not find that option.....am i looking in the right place?.....m





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    ------=_Part_24110_11178779.1173112183850-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 17:47:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1D523BF15; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:47:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 529822600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: OT: MIDI CC Resolution (was: Considering building an ultimate looper...) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:46:59 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7202135F4B@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: OT: MIDI CC Resolution (was: Considering building an ultimate looper...) Thread-Index: AcdfTkawiHbaNTTETqKhsaLfmmbsmw== From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2007 17:47:00.0016 (UTC) FILETIME=[469D7300:01C75F4E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:47:02 +0000 (UTC) >>If the LP-1 *could* accomodate greater resolution from using such = pairs, is there any device out there that could actually send them?<< the peavey pc1600 or 1600x is pretty well equipped for custom midi = commands. I used to use mine to send NRPNs, some of them 14-bit, to one = of those damned roland mini-modules that were around in the mid 90s. duncan. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 17:55:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 17F863BF13; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 12:59:17 -0500 From: Warren Sirota Subject: RE: Live Looper on American Idol In-reply-to: <046801c75cfe$57910980$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <000c01c75f50$0386b250$0302a8c0@Lightning> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6822 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_+gCxpAe12gE4eEyV7g/ttw)" Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Thread-index: Acdc/l580hq5MsHtRpeGwWvgr9VFlACT2bAg Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:55:46 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_+gCxpAe12gE4eEyV7g/ttw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Though I still think the girls are kicking the guys asses on American Idol. Melinda's version of My Funny Valentine gave me the chills. That girl can really belt it out. Uh oh...did I just reveal that I'm a major AI fan? Kris [WS: ] We watch it all the time here. The shtick amongst the judges was more fun when it was just Simon being honest instead of intentionally irascible as he is now (and the other two are increasingly clownish are ridiculous). But you are so right about Melinda - not only can she belt it out, but that was the first originally-conceived version of MFV I've heard in decades, and it was fantastic. Also, it's quite moving to watch this humble background session singer discover the star that she really is. Maybe I'm a soft touch, but it brought me to tears. --Boundary_(ID_+gCxpAe12gE4eEyV7g/ttw) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Message
    Though I still think the girls are kicking the guys asses on American Idol. Melinda's version of My Funny Valentine gave me the chills. That girl can really belt it out. 
     
    Uh oh...did I just reveal that I'm a major AI fan?
     
    Kris
     

    [WS: ] 
    We watch it all the time here. The shtick amongst the judges was more fun when it was just Simon being honest instead of intentionally irascible as he is now (and the other two are increasingly clownish are ridiculous). But you are so right about Melinda - not only can she belt it out, but that was the first originally-conceived version of MFV I've heard in decades, and it was fantastic. Also, it's quite moving to watch this humble background session singer discover the star that she really is. Maybe I'm a soft touch, but it brought me to tears.
     
    --Boundary_(ID_+gCxpAe12gE4eEyV7g/ttw)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 17:56:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A24B93BF12; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:56:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: midifriedchicken@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RC-50 Software update question Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 17:56:09 +0000 Message-Id: <030520071756.29435.45EC59B9000849FC000072FB2215567074020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWlkaWZyaWVkY2hpY2tlbkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29435_1173117369_0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:56:11 +0000 (UTC) --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29435_1173117369_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Has anybody tried the RC50 software update? Its supposed to solve the momentary silence when going directly from record to play. I installed it and still can't tell a difference. Im quickly losing patience with Roland. --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29435_1173117369_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    Has anybody tried the RC50 software update? Its supposed to solve the momentary silence when going directly from record to play. I installed it and still can't tell a difference. Im quickly losing patience with Roland.
    --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_29435_1173117369_0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 18:02:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7B16C3BF19; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:02:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: midifriedchicken@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Live Looper on American Idol Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 18:02:31 +0000 Message-Id: <030520071802.347.45EC5B3700013E210000015B2215567074020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWlkaWZyaWVkY2hpY2tlbkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_347_1173117751_0" Resent-Message-ID: <9TRQOD.A.6dE.4sF7FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:02:32 +0000 (UTC) --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_347_1173117751_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yeah ya did. I am SO opposed to that show. Success should be achieved the old fashoned way. Playing gigs, hitting the road, maxing out credit cards to pay for a record or sucking cock. Or a combination of the 4. NOT WINNING A GAME SHOW. Of course this isnt as shameful as replacing a dead member using a game show. (Inxs). -------------- Original message -------------- From: Warren Sirota Though I still think the girls are kicking the guys asses on American Idol. Melinda's version of My Funny Valentine gave me the chills. That girl can really belt it out. Uh oh...did I just reveal that I'm a major AI fan? Kris [WS: ] We watch it all the time here. The shtick amongst the judges was more fun when it was just Simon being honest instead of intentionally irascible as he is now (and the other two are increasingly clownish are ridiculous). But you are so right about Melinda - not only can she belt it out, but that was the first originally-conceived version of MFV I've heard in decades, and it was fantastic. Also, it's quite moving to watch this humble background session singer discover the star that she really is. Maybe I'm a soft touch, but it brought me to tears. --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_347_1173117751_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    Yeah ya did. I am SO opposed to that show. Success should be achieved the old fashoned way. Playing gigs, hitting the road, maxing out credit cards to pay for a record or sucking cock. Or a combination of the 4.
     
    NOT WINNING A GAME SHOW.
     
    Of course this isnt as shameful as replacing a dead member using a game show. (Inxs).
     
     
    -------------- Original message --------------
    From: Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com>
    Though I still think the girls are kicking the guys asses on American Idol. Melinda's version of My Funny Valentine gave me the chills. That girl can really belt it out. 
     
    Uh oh...did I just reveal that I'm a major AI fan?
     
    Kris
     

    [WS: ] 
    We watch it all the time here. The shtick amongst the judges was more fun when it was just Simon being honest instead of intentionally irascible as he is now (and the other two are increasingly clownish are ridiculous). But you are so right about Melinda - not only can she belt it out, but that was the first originally-conceived version of MFV I've heard in decades, and it was fantastic. Also, it's quite moving to watch this humble background session singer discover the star that she really is. Maybe I'm a soft touch, but it brought me to tears.
     
    --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_347_1173117751_0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 18:20:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6087F3BF1A; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:20:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <030520071802.347.45EC5B3700013E210000015B2215567074020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> References: <030520071802.347.45EC5B3700013E210000015B2215567074020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--609418843 Message-Id: <3dd575378e6d724e8d5e749f5c4f3540@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: Live Looper on American Idol Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 10:19:53 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:20:57 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--609418843 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I met Paula Abdul and she seemed a bit embarrassed about it. And she=20 was actually a pretty savvy music person. There's always been stuff like this on TV though. I SORT OF remember=20 Arthur Godfrey's Amateur Hour... I think it was... had new talent=20 showcases etc. But I don't think it had the voting thing. But I've never watched American Idol. I don't get TV where I am! =20 Never saw Seinfeld either. One of the reasons I moved here. Wanna hear some good guitar? http://www.gregv.us/Music.htm Ran into this site through Swart Amps. He's got some great demo stuff=20= on the Swart Amp site too. Back to the woodshed! richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 5-Mar-07, at 10:02 AM, midifriedchicken@comcast.net wrote: > Yeah ya did. I am SO opposed to that show. Success should be achieved=20= > the old fashoned way. Playing gigs, hitting the road, maxing out=20 > credit cards to pay for a record or sucking cock. Or a combination of=20= > the 4. > =A0 > NOT WINNING A GAME SHOW. > =A0 > Of course this isnt as=A0shameful as replacing a dead member using a=20= > game show. (Inxs). > =A0 > =A0 >> -------------- Original message -------------- >> From: Warren Sirota >>> Though I still think the girls are kicking the guys asses on=20 >>> American Idol. Melinda's version of My Funny Valentine gave me the=20= >>> chills. That=A0girl can=A0really belt it out.=A0 >>> =A0 >>> Uh oh...did I just reveal that I'm a major AI fan? >>> =A0 >>> Kris >>> =A0 >>>> >>>> [WS: ]=A0 >>>> We watch it all the time here. The shtick=A0amongst the judges was=20= >>>> more fun when it was just Simon being honest instead of=20 >>>> intentionally irascible as he is now (and the other two are=20 >>>> increasingly clownish are ridiculous). But you are so right about=20= >>>> Melinda - not only can she belt it out, but that was the first=20 >>>> originally-conceived version of=A0MFV I've heard in decades, and it=20= >>>> was fantastic. Also, it's quite moving to watch this humble=20 >>>> background session singer discover the star that she really is.=20 >>>> Maybe I'm a soft touch, but it brought me to tears. >>>> =A0= --Apple-Mail-4--609418843 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 I met Paula Abdul and she seemed a bit embarrassed about it. And she was actually a pretty savvy music person.=20 There's always been stuff like this on TV though. I SORT OF remember Arthur Godfrey's Amateur Hour... I think it was... had new talent showcases etc. But I don't think it had the voting thing. =20 But I've never watched American Idol. I don't get TV where I am!=20 Never saw Seinfeld either. =20 One of the reasons I moved here. Wanna hear some good guitar? http://www.gregv.us/Music.htm Ran into this site through Swart Amps. He's got some great demo stuff on the Swart Amp site too. =20 Back to the woodshed! Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 5-Mar-07, at 10:02 AM, midifriedchicken@comcast.net wrote: Yeah ya did. I am SO opposed to that show. Success should be achieved the old fashoned way. Playing gigs, hitting the road, maxing out credit cards to pay for a record or sucking cock. Or a combination of the 4. =A0 NOT WINNING A GAME SHOW. =A0 Of course this isnt as=A0shameful as replacing a dead member using a game show. (Inxs). =A0 =A0 -------------- Original message --------------=20 From: Warren Sirota < ArialThough I still think the girls are kicking the guys asses on American Idol. Melinda's version of My Funny Valentine gave me the chills. That=A0girl can=A0really= belt it out.=A0 =A0 ArialUh oh...did I just reveal that I'm a major AI fan? =A0 ArialKris =A0 = Arial0000,0000,FFFF[WS: ]=A0 = Arial0000,0000,FFFFWe watch it all the time here. The shtick=A0amongst the judges was more fun when it was just Simon being honest instead of intentionally irascible as he is now (and the other two are increasingly clownish are ridiculous). But you are so right about Melinda - not only can she belt it out, but that was the first originally-conceived version = of=A0Arial0000,0000,FFFFMFV I've heard in decades, and it was fantastic. Also, it's quite moving to watch this humble background session singer discover the star that she really is. Maybe I'm a soft touch, but it brought me to = tears. =A0= --Apple-Mail-4--609418843-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 18:45:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B0F793BF0F; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:45:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [216.113.128.239] X-Identified-User: {864:box76.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:webmail from 216.113.128.239} Message-ID: <20070305124536.3czak45b84cgoc0s@69.89.21.76> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 12:45:36 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question References: <030520071756.29435.45EC59B9000849FC000072FB2215567074020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <030520071756.29435.45EC59B9000849FC000072FB2215567074020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:45:38 +0000 (UTC) Quoting midifriedchicken@comcast.net: > Has anybody tried the RC50 software update? Its supposed to solve > the momentary silence when going directly from record to play. The V1.01 update allows you to switch between "Rhythm priority" and "Sound priority". To choose the priority, hold down the switches as you switch on the power: Rhythm Priority: [LOOP SYNC]+[PHRASE 1] Sound Priority: [LOOP SYNC]+[PHRASE 2] Note: the setting is saved in memory, so you don't need to carry out this procedure every time you start up. Rhythm Priority has a delay as it syncs up the loops starting position. In essence, the loop starts on the correct beat however is muted for a moment before it kicks in. This is the "gap" to which people refer. Sound Priority starts the playback from the beginning of the recorded data. Note, however, that for the rhythm guide, recorded phrases, or recordings synchronized with MIDI, playback starts with "Rhythm priority". From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 18:47:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7ADF63BF18; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1173120258.45ec6502aa013@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:44:18 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: MIDI CC Resolution (was: Considering building an ultimate looper...) References: <20070217230220.2080E38102@astra.telenet-ops.be> <45DC37F1.8010700@addcom.de> <1172077856.45dc7d2014846@webmail.musetrap.com> <1173088303.45ebe82f7d3a8@webmail.m3ch.net> In-Reply-To: <1173088303.45ebe82f7d3a8@webmail.m3ch.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 208.49.125.142 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Mech, You are correct.. I had forgotten about that, and did not continue forth in my reading once I thought I had my answer.. :) So, I think, instead of the a new ultimate looper, we need an ultimate midi pedal.. which is not a new topic either.. :) a device where the knobs, sliders, and/or pedals have the ability to send not only standard midi, but the ability to pair up CC's for the improved resolution.. of course, since we are moving out of the 'spec', we could go as far as combining more than 2 CC's for an even greater resolution... timing becomes more important as we chain the commands together, as a full CC message on midi hardware takes 1ms to make it's trip... but, if the sending device correctly supports 'running status' the two CC version will only take 1.6ms, instead of 2ms.. and if we jumped up up to a 4 message CC (for a 32766 resolution) it would be 2.8ms, instead of 4ms.. anyways, fun stuff.. :) While we are talking about controllers, I think coming up with a pedal that can have it's current position set (like knobs with halos, or motorized faders) would be cool as well.. Nate Pease and I talked about a 'roller' with the current position represented by LED's (like the knob with halo)... peace -cpr Quoting Mech : > Quoting cpr@musetrap.com: > > > > One solution to this is to map the Pitch Wheel command (0xE0-0xEF) > > to volume..the Pitch Wheel command is 14bits, 0-16383.. no new > > hardware needed.. of course there is only 1 of these per channel, > > and 16 channels per cable (or device), but one should be able to > > work with that as well.. And, as well, the receiving device has to > > be able to work with this as well, so your milage may vary.. My > > reworking of the MIDI support in the LP1 supports this.. > > CPR, > > My understanding is that it isn't actually the MIDI Spec at fault here. > From > what I can see, there are multiple Continuous Controllers that are designed > to > be used in MSB/LSB pairs (just as the Pitch Wheel command is designed) in > order > to provide much more discrete resolution than merely 7 bits. > > IIRC, controller #'s 46-63 were originally designated for use as the LSB for > CC's 14-31, and then 101/100 & 99/98 were explicitly matched into MSB/LSB > pairs. I'm sure there are others that I'm forgetting here (aren't there > 'unused' LSB's for things like Mod Wheel and Breath Control?) too. > > So, would I then be correct in assuming the biggest deficiency here would > actually be in the fact that few, if any, MIDI control devices (faders, > footpedals, whatever...) will send matched pairs for anything other than > Pitch > Wheel? > > Of course, the receiving device has to be able to make sense of the data > stream > as well. However, I'm assuming that if you can reprogram the MIDI support > in > the LP-1 to accept MSB/LSB from the Pitch Wheel, it would be a reasonably > simple matter to do the same for a different pair of CC numbers. If the > LP-1 > *could* accomodate greater resolution from using such pairs, is there any > device out there that could actually send them? > > --m. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 18:48:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE8CE3BF13; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:48:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1173120265.45ec6509e705e@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 12:44:25 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: MIDI CC Resolution (was: Considering building an ultimate looper...) References: <20070217230220.2080E38102@astra.telenet-ops.be> <45DC37F1.8010700@addcom.de> <1172077856.45dc7d2014846@webmail.musetrap.com> <1173088303.45ebe82f7d3a8@webmail.m3ch.net> In-Reply-To: <1173088303.45ebe82f7d3a8@webmail.m3ch.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 208.49.125.142 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:48:37 +0000 (UTC) Mech, You are correct.. I had forgotten about that, and did not continue forth in my reading once I thought I had my answer.. :) So, I think, instead of the a new ultimate looper, we need an ultimate midi pedal.. which is not a new topic either.. :) a device where the knobs, sliders, and/or pedals have the ability to send not only standard midi, but the ability to pair up CC's for the improved resolution.. of course, since we are moving out of the 'spec', we could go as far as combining more than 2 CC's for an even greater resolution... timing becomes more important as we chain the commands together, as a full CC message on midi hardware takes 1ms to make it's trip... but, if the sending device correctly supports 'running status' the two CC version will only take 1.6ms, instead of 2ms.. and if we jumped up up to a 4 message CC (for a 32766 resolution) it would be 2.8ms, instead of 4ms.. anyways, fun stuff.. :) While we are talking about controllers, I think coming up with a pedal that can have it's current position set (like knobs with halos, or motorized faders) would be cool as well.. Nate Pease and I talked about a 'roller' with the current position represented by LED's (like the knob with halo)... peace -cpr Quoting Mech : > Quoting cpr@musetrap.com: > > > > One solution to this is to map the Pitch Wheel command (0xE0-0xEF) > > to volume..the Pitch Wheel command is 14bits, 0-16383.. no new > > hardware needed.. of course there is only 1 of these per channel, > > and 16 channels per cable (or device), but one should be able to > > work with that as well.. And, as well, the receiving device has to > > be able to work with this as well, so your milage may vary.. My > > reworking of the MIDI support in the LP1 supports this.. > > CPR, > > My understanding is that it isn't actually the MIDI Spec at fault here. > From > what I can see, there are multiple Continuous Controllers that are designed > to > be used in MSB/LSB pairs (just as the Pitch Wheel command is designed) in > order > to provide much more discrete resolution than merely 7 bits. > > IIRC, controller #'s 46-63 were originally designated for use as the LSB for > CC's 14-31, and then 101/100 & 99/98 were explicitly matched into MSB/LSB > pairs. I'm sure there are others that I'm forgetting here (aren't there > 'unused' LSB's for things like Mod Wheel and Breath Control?) too. > > So, would I then be correct in assuming the biggest deficiency here would > actually be in the fact that few, if any, MIDI control devices (faders, > footpedals, whatever...) will send matched pairs for anything other than > Pitch > Wheel? > > Of course, the receiving device has to be able to make sense of the data > stream > as well. However, I'm assuming that if you can reprogram the MIDI support > in > the LP-1 to accept MSB/LSB from the Pitch Wheel, it would be a reasonably > simple matter to do the same for a different pair of CC numbers. If the > LP-1 > *could* accomodate greater resolution from using such pairs, is there any > device out there that could actually send them? > > --m. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 19:04:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A6273BF1B; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 19:04:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: midifriedchicken@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:04:20 +0000 Message-Id: <030520071904.25471.45EC69B4000A3B720000637F2212020784020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWlkaWZyaWVkY2hpY2tlbkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_25471_1173121460_0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 19:04:23 +0000 (UTC) --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_25471_1173121460_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit And...? Have you noticed a difference? -------------- Original message -------------- From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com > Quoting midifriedchicken@comcast.net: > > > Has anybody tried the RC50 software update? Its supposed to solve > > the momentary silence when going directly from record to play. > > The V1.01 update allows you to switch between "Rhythm priority" and > "Sound priority". > > To choose the priority, hold down the switches as you switch on the power: > > Rhythm Priority: [LOOP SYNC]+[PHRASE 1] > Sound Priority: [LOOP SYNC]+[PHRASE 2] > > Note: the setting is saved in memory, so you don't need to carry out > this procedure every time you start up. > > Rhythm Priority has a delay as it syncs up the loops starting > position. In essence, the loop starts on the correct beat however is > muted for a moment before it kicks in. This is the "gap" to which > people refer. > > Sound Priority starts the playback from the beginning of the recorded > data. Note, however, that for the rhythm guide, recorded phrases, or > recordings synchronized with MIDI, playback starts with "Rhythm > priority". > > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_25471_1173121460_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    And...? Have you noticed a difference?
     
    -------------- Original message --------------
    From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com

    > Quoting midifriedchicken@comcast.net:
    >
    > > Has anybody tried the RC50 software update? Its supposed to solve
    > > the momentary silence when going directly from record to play.
    >
    > The V1.01 update allows you to switch between "Rhythm priority" and
    > "Sound priority".
    >
    > To choose the priority, hold down the switches as you switch on the power:
    >
    > Rhythm Priority: [LOOP SYNC]+[PHRASE 1]
    > Sound Priority: [LOOP SYNC]+[PHRASE 2]
    >
    > Note: the setting is saved in memory, so you don't need to carry out
    > this procedure every time you start up.
    >
    > Rhythm Priority has a delay as it syncs up the loops starting
    > position. In essence, the loop starts on the correct beat however i s
    > muted for a moment before it kicks in. This is the "gap" to which
    > people refer.
    >
    > Sound Priority starts the playback from the beginning of the recorded
    > data. Note, however, that for the rhythm guide, recorded phrases, or
    > recordings synchronized with MIDI, playback starts with "Rhythm
    > priority".
    >
    >
    --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_25471_1173121460_0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 19:20:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EAF5E3BF0E; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 19:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 648373376 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: OT: MIDI CC Resolution (was: Considering building an ultimate looper...) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 19:19:58 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7202135F4F@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: OT: MIDI CC Resolution (was: Considering building an ultimate looper...) Thread-Index: AcdfW0OvScC5Vm90REeuNON0MGXPQw== From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Mar 2007 19:19:59.0285 (UTC) FILETIME=[441E5650:01C75F5B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 19:20:00 +0000 (UTC) >>While we are talking about controllers, I think coming up with a pedal = that can have it's current position set (like knobs with halos, or = motorized faders) would be cool as well.. << hey- let's get on to penny & giles, see if they can make a beefed-up = version of a motorised pot to go in a pedal. I would volunteer my = guitarist to try this thing out, so's I could knock him over by = recalling a patch while he's in the middle of one of his hendrix = wank-a-thons. :-) d. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 19:27:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 039EE3BF20; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 19:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [216.113.128.239] X-Identified-User: {864:box76.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:webmail from 216.113.128.239} Message-ID: <20070305132727.bhmte1kfhckwc44k@69.89.21.76> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 13:27:27 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question References: <030520071904.25471.45EC69B4000A3B720000637F2212020784020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <030520071904.25471.45EC69B4000A3B720000637F2212020784020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 19:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Quoting midifriedchicken@comcast.net: > And...? Have you noticed a difference? (regarding RC50 v1.01) > Yes, when the rhythm guide is off (that is, when not syncing) as soon as I switch out of record to "overdub" the loop starts as soon as I hit the pedal without the momentary "mute". I haven't used the RC50 much lately -- I have some projects that are pressing so I have little spare time to experiment with the RC50 now. Look forward to returning to the RC50 in the future. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 20:20:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6AD8B3BF1A; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 20:20:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1173125642.45ec7a0a7fa19@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:14:02 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: OT: MIDI CC Resolution (was: Considering building an ultimate looper...) References: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7202135F4F@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7202135F4F@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 208.49.125.142 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 20:20:47 +0000 (UTC) lol... yeah, that's why I suggested the halo version, instead of the motorized.. :) Quoting "Goddard, Duncan" : > >>While we are talking about controllers, I think coming up with a pedal that > can have it's current position set (like knobs with halos, or motorized > faders) would be cool as well.. << > > hey- let's get on to penny & giles, see if they can make a beefed-up version > of a motorised pot to go in a pedal. I would volunteer my guitarist to try > this thing out, so's I could knock him over by recalling a patch while he's > in the middle of one of his hendrix wank-a-thons. :-) > > d. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 21:24:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F92F3BF17; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 21:24:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: <3291968.1172822211741.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: monk Subject: repeater cfc card Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 16:24:01 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 21:24:09 +0000 (UTC) is anyone using the new-ish pretec 256 card? with luck? any other currently available cards to recommend? thanks monk@fuse.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 21:26:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 611353BF12; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 21:26:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20070305132727.bhmte1kfhckwc44k@69.89.21.76> References: <030520071904.25471.45EC69B4000A3B720000637F2212020784020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> <20070305132727.bhmte1kfhckwc44k@69.89.21.76> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: john floridis Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 14:26:41 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AOL-IP: 69.145.124.236 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 21:26:49 +0000 (UTC) i've found that it can make a big difference, the "sound priority" vs. the "rhythm priority"......however, i have found that it does not always store in the memory, and i need to test it to make sure it is set correctly. having gone back to working occasionally with the edp and berhinger pedal, that still seems more smooth, but with the software update the rc50 is improved. john From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 21:39:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF0823BF1C; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 21:39:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: midifriedchicken@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 21:39:42 +0000 Message-Id: <030520072139.23470.45EC8E1E000131D700005BAE2216525806020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWlkaWZyaWVkY2hpY2tlbkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_23470_1173130782_0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 21:39:44 +0000 (UTC) --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_23470_1173130782_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ah, so it doesn't store the preset. Makes sense now. Roland's software leaves a lot to be desired. -------------- Original message -------------- From: john floridis > i've found that it can make a big difference, the "sound priority" > vs. the "rhythm priority"......however, i have found that it does not > always store in the memory, and i need to test it to make sure it is > set correctly. > > having gone back to working occasionally with the edp and berhinger > pedal, that still seems more smooth, but with the software update the > rc50 is improved. > > john > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_23470_1173130782_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    Ah, so it doesn't store the preset. Makes sense now. Roland's software leaves a lot to be desired.
     
    -------------- Original message --------------
    From: john floridis <jfloridis@aol.com>

    > i've found that it can make a big difference, the "sound priority"
    > vs. the "rhythm priority"......however, i have found that it does not
    > always store in the memory, and i need to test it to make sure it is
    > set correctly.
    >
    > having gone back to working occasionally with the edp and berhinger
    > pedal, that still seems more smooth, but with the software update the
    > rc50 is improved.
    >
    > john
    >
    --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_23470_1173130782_0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 22:22:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 379AF3BF18; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 22:22:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=FB+eWyOF5tOWQ/5XlPbL2UI+D3lhUNNEoajrnJreUWsO9/MuiGWpqiwXadrNkLByJz2JzPdzBy+qR5wPi0GiJ2YuVdptU9bi6ieUpumzUL1A0RvV2vMkzqpPWTxp7LdmyoYrve8vrRZ6zc80Q+oIKzlFCVG2xnl7usjJMpgBL1c=; X-YMail-OSG: .ZcWX5AVM1m34SK9X3yLR0SeHW02eqelLtASidvZ3cxmJegEh5PLRUufyHubT.d2aCzwEJBg8KmARfqKal0SazsE_7LQMFZzCy90c.Peh2Q5Z7u49KIXgOcGwLgPcJbtLJdqjLhijfNU Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:22:12 +0100 (CET) From: rune fagereng Subject: Myspace tune To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com, midiguitar@yahoogroups.com, repeater-users@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <392943.6128.qm@web26204.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <4DKA5D.A.W9.VgJ7FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 22:22:14 +0000 (UTC) > Hi ! > > I made a little tribute thing to Jon Hassell - > called > Hazel-nut. Its on Myspace. > > http://www.myspace.com/runefagereng Best regards Rune Fagereng > > > www.runefagereng.com > Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no > Mob: 917 95 867 > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, > kalender og > notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com > www.runefagereng.com Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Mob: 917 95 867 _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 22:25:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD6F73BF1F; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 22:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45EC98EA.1010003@addcom.de> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 23:25:46 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Macintosh/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new experimental music project References: <2fb9e4730702271227v4452d54ev4e370c7e766cf4b4@mail.gmail.com> <796110272ee49f8079fdd7ea2b1987e6@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <796110272ee49f8079fdd7ea2b1987e6@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6tRFQ.A.yNB.ujJ7FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 22:25:50 +0000 (UTC) nico spahni schrieb: > Do you think this project is worth persuing? Is there anyone who has > worked in a similar direction? I'd love to hear about your sonic ventures. Yeah, doing this since 20 Years, if it didn't stop me from doing it, I guess its worth persuing... Go ahead and have fun... (As you seem to have already... ;-) I liked especially your nice usage of backward playback in the examples you posted.... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 22:41:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B4943BF0E; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 22:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45EC9C86.2020706@addcom.de> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 23:41:10 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Macintosh/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Zipper Noise, an example References: <20070221165352.13106.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45DC96FE.7070702@tiscali.co.uk> <45E3FB79.2060905@addcom.de> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 22:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen schrieb: > You hear the zipper noise (of the TC Electronix FireworX) when I use the > MIDI expression pedal to adjust the volume, something you do a lot when > playing guitar (but never with wind instruments). It's a little annoying > but not that bad that I wouldn't use the volume pedal at concert. > Strange thing is that when I use a MIDI expression pedal to adjust the > beat sync tempo division for the LFO bound filter (on the reverb return) > there is no such noise. Its very likely not an interference, its just unsmoothed direct control of the amplitude. 128 steps are not fine enough... You can test this, as its more audible on low frequency sine waves. if you feed a sound without much overtones/treble and control the volume is it more audible? Its hard to believe, that they don't smooth it. In my Max patches I usually smooth it with 20 ms which creates an acceptable latency for volume control... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 22:53:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFA253BF12; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 22:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <45EC9C86.2020706@addcom.de> References: <20070221165352.13106.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45DC96FE.7070702@tiscali.co.uk> <45E3FB79.2060905@addcom.de> <45EC9C86.2020706@addcom.de> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:52:54 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Zipper Noise, an example Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120066e7f2d91c248ef21bd614065bf31fe218191bc31cc3b36350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 22:53:14 +0000 (UTC) The zipper noise can easily be supressed by interpolating those steps in the gain control algorhythm. Most programmers don't listen too closely, apparently. >Per Boysen schrieb: >>You hear the zipper noise (of the TC Electronix FireworX) when I >>use the MIDI expression pedal to adjust the volume, something you >>do a lot when playing guitar (but never with wind instruments). >>It's a little annoying but not that bad that I wouldn't use the >>volume pedal at concert. Strange thing is that when I use a MIDI >>expression pedal to adjust the beat sync tempo division for the LFO >>bound filter (on the reverb return) there is no such noise. > >Its very likely not an interference, its just unsmoothed direct >control of the amplitude. 128 steps are not fine enough... >You can test this, as its more audible on low frequency sine waves. >if you feed a sound without much overtones/treble and control the >volume is it more audible? Its hard to believe, that they don't >smooth it. >In my Max patches I usually smooth it with 20 ms which creates an >acceptable latency for volume control... > >Stefan > >-- >Stefan Tiedje------------x------- >--_____-----------|-------------- >--(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- >-- _|_)----|-----()-------------- >----------()--------www.ccmix.com -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 23:36:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DD363BF16; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:36:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1173136695.45eca537e9ca6@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:18:15 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Zipper Noise, an example References: <20070221165352.13106.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45DC96FE.7070702@tiscali.co.uk> <45E3FB79.2060905@addcom.de> <45EC9C86.2020706@addcom.de> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 208.49.125.142 Resent-Message-ID: <33xfE.A.GbF.hlK7FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:36:01 +0000 (UTC) Not to defend programmers who don't do thier own level of testing, but professional audio companies should have someone besides the programmers who verifies that the quality of the output meets the company standard.. But, it is also my experience that the 'test dept', or more accurately 'quality assurance' is usually the most understaffed department.. and, on top of staffing issues, they are often not given control over WHEN something ships.. management will often override concerns of quality to hit a ship date.. just my two cents from the trenches.. :) peace -cpr Quoting Charles Zwicky : > > > The zipper noise can easily be supressed by interpolating those > steps in the gain control algorhythm. > > Most programmers don't listen too closely, apparently. > > > >Per Boysen schrieb: > >>You hear the zipper noise (of the TC Electronix FireworX) when I > >>use the MIDI expression pedal to adjust the volume, something you > >>do a lot when playing guitar (but never with wind instruments). > >>It's a little annoying but not that bad that I wouldn't use the > >>volume pedal at concert. Strange thing is that when I use a MIDI > >>expression pedal to adjust the beat sync tempo division for the LFO > >>bound filter (on the reverb return) there is no such noise. > > > >Its very likely not an interference, its just unsmoothed direct > >control of the amplitude. 128 steps are not fine enough... > >You can test this, as its more audible on low frequency sine waves. > >if you feed a sound without much overtones/treble and control the > >volume is it more audible? Its hard to believe, that they don't > >smooth it. > >In my Max patches I usually smooth it with 20 ms which creates an > >acceptable latency for volume control... > > > >Stefan > > > >-- > >Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > >--_____-----------|-------------- > >--(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > >-- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > >----------()--------www.ccmix.com > > > -- > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 5 23:54:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDEAD3BF0B; Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:54:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=W9tnUEhnMKf+w82By7XgoAh8iT67W/2V4XyYDkHNZfHkWtdNIuDfrLwQyyTkUJ1CUQ+8I9qeg7bo6+iKK2RuoEvw893fnWHyORdNcOO3QNrWYAeY5nPXMKUsjHocqvNl/dGX3/aAEhQBqX5tts696Xuj0yrfY32vSD01/1JgcT0=; X-YMail-OSG: F8hpt4AVM1l6YfrFQ9yMrnFpyk8f6Ve.4Q2KmkGCs4KqH6bkcPEkcqmoXOZWTqFnuESAxsgqw9aWJHSsSUkxHTbd..b7fZ7lLy35UiGMkUr3N_hgSEZKkQk0Gas.WLJrU4jYBBb94pr2fng7_xyEDFfPfw-- Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 15:54:53 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: mackie SRM 150's To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <07de01c75eb6$134e8400$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <762031.70916.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:54:54 +0000 (UTC) wow Kris srm450 for floor monitors? not exactly compact those babies are heavy,i am actually considering buying them to use them as my main PA speakers and use my yamahas ms150 as monitors(although my back problems make me still flirt with the bose PAS! Luis --- Krispen Hartung wrote: > I love the EV's. I have the SRM 450's, which I use > for floor monitors, and then I have two EV SxA100 > powered 1X12 cabs...they kick ass: > > http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear/ev100.jpg > > They are discontinued now and have a replacement, > which I'm sure is good too. I'm a huge fan of EV > cabs. > > All I need is one powered sub, and I have a comlete > system, along with my Mackie 1642-VLZ Pro Mixer > Board > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Qua Veda" > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 2:36 PM > Subject: RE: mackie SRM 150's > > > > While you're at it, check out EV's products in > this size. > > > > I'm giving some thought to the Mackie 150's, plus > a sub, for my 'multiple > > speaker' setup > > -Qua > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Andrew Koenig [mailto:ark@acm.org] > > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 11:59 AM > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: RE: mackie SRM 150's > > > >> http://mackie.com/products/srm150/ > > > >> Mini PA -- 150 watts, 100-17K frequency response, > 7.6 pounds, USD 300. > > > > By the way, here's the competition: > > > > http://www.tc-helicon.tc/Default.asp?Id=7274 > > > > Same price, approximately same size. It would be > interesting to hear them > > side by side. > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 01:40:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 219CB3BF19; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 01:40:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=irFD1JfZeVsDzjV38mMSNpevwp/TagRVUKtWNtl6JnuyCcYmmnjabq4vmWQ2YX0PERSahgNBA8UvZZCDt6LdrViCxY5Sizzhe1vG/Hrr0Z6b1JPbNF0UhEl2QwmlASvBuG6ALR3THBuROG4VEuw2Tq8s0zGyoKwqMxlASS5VxF8=; X-YMail-OSG: pPs83UwVM1nikI18RODaMJGn0gRzeFwslO3sxpZNFhIamQd453TuLPC.yThbWCYwFg-- Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 17:40:01 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Playing at Home v. Playing Live To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <451297.5451.qm@web81313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <671509.85873.qm@web38612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 01:40:03 +0000 (UTC) Hey Mark! Although i still sometimes ask myself why i do it there is still something very appealing about playing live to me.Perhaps the strange experiences of audiences behavior.This is why i think there is no point of taking ones self too seriously.Last saturday i had a looping gig with a non looper sax player friend of mine at a beautiful old mansion where an art expo took place.We played in one of the rooms where they setup some chairs right in front of us.It was really funny because people where chilling out watching the paintings all around talking drinking wine and when we started playing without saying anything everybody rushed to sit down and get a seat.So my friend felt obligated to say something to the audience about what we were doing.But since he is not a looper,he just introduced me and le me do the explanation,so without going to much into detail i just did a demonstration even looping my friend without him knowing and he was just as thrilled as the audience and i was having a blast observing him and the audience ;-)) But the funny thing is that after they applauded enthusiastically to our demonstration,suddently they all got up together like a flock of seagulls and splitted right away to the bar! after that we had the most fun because we felt liberated and started to play really strange stuff and just having a laugh and i had a blast just watching my friends face reacting to the echoes of his sax plugged to a DL4 and being looped and not having any control over it.Yes,getting paid for having fun! (well until you have to tear down your gear and carry it back 3 floors down) --- mark sottilaro wrote: > I used to be pure pop music (though kind of on the > experimental side influenced by people like The > Beatles, XTC, Pink Floyd and Radiohead) and while I > found that works in a live situation, I often find > my > looping doesn't... usually. To the LD members, it > does. (I think) but I think we're a different animal > here. > > Truth is, I got tired of performing pop songs live. > Most people really want to hear music they know and > that sure isn't my original music. I've decided > that > my loop performances really aren't for live > performance in front of an audience either... even > though they are pure live performance in a sense. > I'm > performing the composing and the music at the same > time. Wee! Improvising is the best! > > So while I hope to get my shit together and start > playing out from time to time, I find I don't really > crave it much. Usually I can't hear myself well, > feel > like I'm disconnected from the audience because of a > mountain of gear... ect. Seems a million times more > fun in my home studio looping with my friend Andy. > HEY ANDY! If you're reading this it's LOOP NIGHT! > > A few times a year I say this and usually get no > responses, but here goes. Anyone in the SF Bay Area > want to come over for some loop'n? Let me know. > > Mark > > > --- David H wrote: > > > A member asked me what the difference is between > my > > home playing and my live > > playing, and the answer warrants a new thread. > > > > Its been my impression that the majority of > members > > on this list play > > "experimental" or "ambient" music. I really enjoy > > and appreciate it, too. > > Sometimes there is nothing better than flipping > > through the list > > listening to mp3s you guys have posted. Even so, > my > > friends sometimes refer > > to these styles as artsy fartsy, over their head, > > weird and/or boring (no > > offense). > > > > I'm also a big fan of standard folk tunes. And > > admittedly, I can't seem to > > outgrow popular song structure. I write songs on > my > > guitar in my rental > > house just like the dude next door, with verses, > > choruses, lyrics, and I use > > chords! ;) My loops are not very complex, I've got > a > > beat, a rhythm guitar, > > some back up vocals, and a few layers here and > > there. I originally started > > looping because I got sick of trying to put a > decent > > band together and > > decided to be the whole band. Now I play popular > > bars and clubs around town, > > and they like to hear "songs" that people can sing > > and dance to. Boy, that > > sentence sure made me seem like a sell out. But > read > > on: > > > > Each song I've written has been composed in a very > > flexible way. I can pick > > up my acoustic and perform without ever plugging > in, > > but I also leave a > > place in every song when I loop it to take it to > > places that are > > experimental or ambient. I have the dynamic of > > performing one song dry, and > > the next looped into outer space. Anyway, so I see > > the music I make as a > > transitional vehicle. From the popular mundane, to > > what I like to think of > > the fine wines of music, the experimental, and > etc. > > You can take people who > > don't listen to ambient music to places they > > wouldn't normally go by > > tricking them into thinking they are listening to > a > > popular song they could > > hear on the radio. I give Budweiser drinkers a sip > > of Merlot, (that's you > > guys). > > > > When I'm playing at home, its more entertaining to > > me, the loops are much > > longer and layers much deeper, effects much more > > dynamic. I'm experimenting. > > But during a performance I tone it down, I sing > > catchy tunes so that they > > like me, and throw in a few weird, noisy, ambient > > phrases to pique their > > interest, and so I have a good time too. > > > > David > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Any questions? Get answers on any topic at > www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 02:42:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E8AB3BF1A; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 02:42:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1173136695.45eca537e9ca6@webmail.musetrap.com> References: <20070221165352.13106.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45DC96FE.7070702@tiscali.co.uk> <45E3FB79.2060905@addcom.de> <45EC9C86.2020706@addcom.de> <1173136695.45eca537e9ca6@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 21:42:18 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Zipper Noise, an example Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120066e7f2d91c248efbde775560349ca6e1ee4b264fab01f9d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 02:42:48 +0000 (UTC) It really falls on the Beta testers. If they don't use the devices the way that us on the cutting edge might then these things slip past them. This is why the RC-50 gets complaints here but the LP-1 and 2880 don't...and vice versa in the mainstream press. >Not to defend programmers who don't do thier own level of testing, but >professional audio companies should have someone besides the programmers who >verifies that the quality of the output meets the company standard.. >But, it is >also my experience that the 'test dept', or more accurately 'quality >assurance' >is usually the most understaffed department.. and, on top of staffing issues, >they are often not given control over WHEN something ships.. management will >often override concerns of quality to hit a ship date.. just my two cents from >the trenches.. :) > >peace >-cpr > >Quoting Charles Zwicky : > >> >> >> The zipper noise can easily be supressed by interpolating those >> steps in the gain control algorhythm. >> >> Most programmers don't listen too closely, apparently. >> >> >> >Per Boysen schrieb: >> >>You hear the zipper noise (of the TC Electronix FireworX) when I >> >>use the MIDI expression pedal to adjust the volume, something you >> >>do a lot when playing guitar (but never with wind instruments). >> >>It's a little annoying but not that bad that I wouldn't use the >> >>volume pedal at concert. Strange thing is that when I use a MIDI >> >>expression pedal to adjust the beat sync tempo division for the LFO >> >>bound filter (on the reverb return) there is no such noise. >> > >> >Its very likely not an interference, its just unsmoothed direct >> >control of the amplitude. 128 steps are not fine enough... >> >You can test this, as its more audible on low frequency sine waves. >> >if you feed a sound without much overtones/treble and control the >> >volume is it more audible? Its hard to believe, that they don't >> >smooth it. >> >In my Max patches I usually smooth it with 20 ms which creates an >> >acceptable latency for volume control... >> > >> >Stefan >> > >> >-- >> >Stefan Tiedje------------x------- >> >--_____-----------|-------------- >> >--(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- >> >-- _|_)----|-----()-------------- >> >----------()--------www.ccmix.com >> >> >> -- >> ... >> http://www.zmix.net >> >> > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 02:52:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FF613BF1F; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 02:52:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: <20070221165352.13106.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45DC96FE.7070702@tiscali.co.uk> <45E3FB79.2060905@addcom.de> <45EC9C86.2020706@addcom.de> <1173136695.45eca537e9ca6@webmail.musetrap.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--578653134 Message-Id: From: Richard Sales Subject: Well... it SORT OF has something to do with looping Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 18:52:38 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 02:52:42 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5--578653134 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Oh my goodness! Check it out: http://www.jet-man.com/actuel_eng.html richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com > --Apple-Mail-5--578653134 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Oh my goodness! Check it out: http://www.jet-man.com/actuel_eng.html Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com --Apple-Mail-5--578653134-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 03:15:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B750F3BF1D; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 03:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Introducing myself :: Rob McDade (South Australia) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 13:45:13 +1030 Message-ID: <65865F047B28324D92F716B06CAAFE0F023267DA@sagemsg0020.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au> In-Reply-To: <671509.85873.qm@web38612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Introducing myself :: Rob McDade (South Australia) Thread-Index: AcdfkGC9b+QotnBMRyqJQfzDLMxLPgACAz2Q From: "McDade, Rob (SLSA)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Mar 2007 03:15:13.0333 (UTC) FILETIME=[A7D0C650:01C75F9D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 03:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Hi, This is my first post to this email list and I thought I'd introduce myself. My name is Rob McDade - I live in Adelaide in South Australia. I have been playing guitar for 20 years now - and am a long time prog rock fan. I have recently gotten heavily into looping. In a way I began a long time ago with my first delay pedal - but I recently discovered the potential with the equipment that is around today. I am a solo performer - I play a mixture of solo acoustic guitar (akin to Steve Howe, Michael Hedges and Will Ackerman); and electric loops which enable me to produce a band sound - a mini Pink Floyd or Mike Oldfield! My set up revolves around the BOSS DD20 which I bought for its delay functions - not aware that it has a sound on sound looping setting. Now that is my mainstay effect. I run a normal guitar -> boss pedal effects set up into a small behringer mixer, into which I also patch my acoustic guitar and a drum machine (Alesis HR16) the FX send of the Mixer runs thru the DD20. Despite its limitations at 23 seconds - the DD20 does give me quite a lot of flexibility with performance - esp if I run the SOS as the manual setting and pre set some long delays into the 4 memory banks. My performances involve setting up some Fripp-esque soundscapes using the long delay settings (particularly nice if using an ebow - and a standard digital delay pedal!). Switching the DD20 delay on and off - allows for normal decay of the delays (which might take a few minutes) and soloing over those - or whatever! Then switching to the SOS function (again while the delay 'soundscapes' decay naturally over several minutes) and setting up a loop - I mostly use 2 or 3 chord - chord progressions then enhancing with some percussion sounds which I tap in manually from the drum machine; and play a bass line using an octave pedal. When it works it sounds pretty cool - and has impressed quite a few punters when playing live. Solo over the top! =20 Ending the performance is the trick - I can either fade out the loop using the mixer. I am thinking of getting a 2nd volume pedal to put after the output of the DD20 so I can fade out using my foot - while still playing lead - as opposed to fading out with one hand and soloing with the other - or just fading the loop on its own. Another option is to end the piece with a big, abrupt finish - stopping the loop dead and playing a huge chord or sustained note ; or while the loop is still running, switch back into one of the delay settings and build up another soundscape - then switch off the loop (rather abrupt finish) but the soundscape runs on. The footswitch settings need to be set up a special way to do that. Basically by stomping on both pedals at the same time you can switch between the memory banks. I am investigating another dedicated looping device such as the Boss RC 20 (XL) or the RC2 (more in my price range) and coming up with a more complicated signal flow using both DD20 and RC side by side. One option is to split the FX send into 2 signals, one into the DD one into the RC and then have 2 FX returns. Then they should not conflict with one another - I can have a soundscape running along side a loop and have more flexibility with each without affecting the other. One of the other visual performance highlights of all this is say swapping guitars mid song - start off a loop on acoustic guitar - play along for a bit and then switch to electric and build the piece. I suppose the next step is to get a guitar stand for my acoustic (ready to play) so I can have seamless interchange between the two instruments. It's about now that it's all getting very w@nky and nerdy and probably time I got some friends to jam with!! All good fun - and all very interesting to you readers, I'm sure. Hope to hear from fellow loopers soon. I'm sure I know some of you out there! cheers Rob McDade www.myspace.com/robmcdade www.mp3.com.au/robmcdade From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 04:00:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A5163BF1E; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 04:00:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: FdpynH4VM1km0DMMp.aHngvlWXt.gnhfIoIX_ZgL5md8Vdmf7OyqFAZjbUhCgP0rMGyWeXavtqUCDtVV3pshRoCPmaE1VyhOnbrDuso52Sc0BRHTRZxL7TflUOi82so2 Message-ID: <000501c75fa3$e3d45580$4201a8c0@MichaelPlishka> From: "Michael Plishka" To: References: <65865F047B28324D92F716B06CAAFE0F023267DA@sagemsg0020.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au> Subject: Re: Introducing myself :: Rob McDade (South Australia) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 21:59:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 04:00:26 +0000 (UTC) Welcome! Plish www.myspace.com/bohdanovich www.myspace.com/michaelplishka www.michaelplishka.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "McDade, Rob (SLSA)" To: Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 9:15 PM Subject: Introducing myself :: Rob McDade (South Australia) Hi, This is my first post to this email list and I thought I'd introduce myself. My name is Rob McDade - I live in Adelaide in South Australia. I have been playing guitar for 20 years now - and am a long time prog rock fan. I have recently gotten heavily into looping. In a way I began a long time ago with my first delay pedal - but I recently discovered the potential with the equipment that is around today. I am a solo performer - I play a mixture of solo acoustic guitar (akin to Steve Howe, Michael Hedges and Will Ackerman); and electric loops which enable me to produce a band sound - a mini Pink Floyd or Mike Oldfield! My set up revolves around the BOSS DD20 which I bought for its delay functions - not aware that it has a sound on sound looping setting. Now that is my mainstay effect. I run a normal guitar -> boss pedal effects set up into a small behringer mixer, into which I also patch my acoustic guitar and a drum machine (Alesis HR16) the FX send of the Mixer runs thru the DD20. Despite its limitations at 23 seconds - the DD20 does give me quite a lot of flexibility with performance - esp if I run the SOS as the manual setting and pre set some long delays into the 4 memory banks. My performances involve setting up some Fripp-esque soundscapes using the long delay settings (particularly nice if using an ebow - and a standard digital delay pedal!). Switching the DD20 delay on and off - allows for normal decay of the delays (which might take a few minutes) and soloing over those - or whatever! Then switching to the SOS function (again while the delay 'soundscapes' decay naturally over several minutes) and setting up a loop - I mostly use 2 or 3 chord - chord progressions then enhancing with some percussion sounds which I tap in manually from the drum machine; and play a bass line using an octave pedal. When it works it sounds pretty cool - and has impressed quite a few punters when playing live. Solo over the top! Ending the performance is the trick - I can either fade out the loop using the mixer. I am thinking of getting a 2nd volume pedal to put after the output of the DD20 so I can fade out using my foot - while still playing lead - as opposed to fading out with one hand and soloing with the other - or just fading the loop on its own. Another option is to end the piece with a big, abrupt finish - stopping the loop dead and playing a huge chord or sustained note ; or while the loop is still running, switch back into one of the delay settings and build up another soundscape - then switch off the loop (rather abrupt finish) but the soundscape runs on. The footswitch settings need to be set up a special way to do that. Basically by stomping on both pedals at the same time you can switch between the memory banks. I am investigating another dedicated looping device such as the Boss RC 20 (XL) or the RC2 (more in my price range) and coming up with a more complicated signal flow using both DD20 and RC side by side. One option is to split the FX send into 2 signals, one into the DD one into the RC and then have 2 FX returns. Then they should not conflict with one another - I can have a soundscape running along side a loop and have more flexibility with each without affecting the other. One of the other visual performance highlights of all this is say swapping guitars mid song - start off a loop on acoustic guitar - play along for a bit and then switch to electric and build the piece. I suppose the next step is to get a guitar stand for my acoustic (ready to play) so I can have seamless interchange between the two instruments. It's about now that it's all getting very w@nky and nerdy and probably time I got some friends to jam with!! All good fun - and all very interesting to you readers, I'm sure. Hope to hear from fellow loopers soon. I'm sure I know some of you out there! cheers Rob McDade www.myspace.com/robmcdade www.mp3.com.au/robmcdade From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 04:15:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6BD5C3BF1E; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 04:15:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "hazard factor" To: References: <65865F047B28324D92F716B06CAAFE0F023267DA@sagemsg0020.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au> <000501c75fa3$e3d45580$4201a8c0@MichaelPlishka> In-Reply-To: <000501c75fa3$e3d45580$4201a8c0@MichaelPlishka> Subject: Reactable Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:15:28 -0500 Message-ID: <038d01c75fa6$18df3680$4a9da380$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acdfo/zd3BxAPzRgTqunwauK5d9gFQAAZs6g Content-Language: en-us x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AJKg COrY CQ19 FYnz FmUd G79M HKst JJH9 Jdv9 J03q KiO3 Ky5r LW4p Lpkb MGZa MRgr;1;bABvAG8AcABlAHIAcwAtAGQAZQBsAGkAZwBoAHQAQABsAG8AbwBwAGUAcgBzAC0AZABlAGwAaQBnAGgAdAAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sosha1_v1;7;{F9319E4C-6D33-486C-B513-B0EB2519941B};YQByAHQAaQBzAHQAcwBAAGgAYQB6AGEAcgBkAGYAYQBjAHQAbwByAC4AYwBvAG0A;Tue, 06 Mar 2007 04:14:45 GMT;UgBlAGEAYwB0AGEAYgBsAGUA x-cr-puzzleid: {F9319E4C-6D33-486C-B513-B0EB2519941B} X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 04:15:52 +0000 (UTC) So has anyone else seen the videos for the Reactable @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR0IBdoPiho Yeah, it is weird. From the video, it looks like there is more looping than actual sequencing, but it looks pretty fun to play with and create Atari 1977 sounds. I'd like a whole wall make out of this stuff, really. Dave Eichenberger http://www.daveeichenberger.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 04:48:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16FD83BF23; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 04:47:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00f101c75faa$92781210$0d0ba8c0@AMD01> From: "arcmotion" To: References: <030520071904.25471.45EC69B4000A3B720000637F2212020784020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> <20070305132727.bhmte1kfhckwc44k@69.89.21.76> Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 12:47:40 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.2826 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 04:47:59 +0000 (UTC) i did the upgrade but i cant seem to hear much difference at all. also there are no display messages which confirm that its rythm of sound priority. there is a patch called cool groove (number 6) i copied it to 7 and 8 and had it change on loop end. but the rythm guide seems to put the first beat in twice when you switch between 7 and 8.....but these patches loop perfectly on their own!! my main concern is that it might be something i can work around because i want to use this machine as a glorified song creation sketchpad and switching between patches is pretty fundamental to this....using copies of patches with phrases varying but some the same....and the beat a constant. what baffels me is that boss obviously went to a lot of trouble to include "change at loop end" and control instructions that can move up and down patches while you are playing. ....but these features are useless if it stops and puts another beat in everytime it changes. i just cannot believe this .....it must be something im doing wrong ...or can this be true?? ----- Original Message ----- From: "john floridis" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 5:26 AM Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question > i've found that it can make a big difference, the "sound priority" vs. > the "rhythm priority"......however, i have found that it does not always > store in the memory, and i need to test it to make sure it is set > correctly. > > having gone back to working occasionally with the edp and berhinger > pedal, that still seems more smooth, but with the software update the > rc50 is improved. > > john > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 05:47:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC8623BF25; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 05:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <00f101c75faa$92781210$0d0ba8c0@AMD01> References: <030520071904.25471.45EC69B4000A3B720000637F2212020784020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> <20070305132727.bhmte1kfhckwc44k@69.89.21.76> <00f101c75faa$92781210$0d0ba8c0@AMD01> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: john floridis Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 22:47:27 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AOL-IP: 69.145.124.236 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 05:47:41 +0000 (UTC) it would have been nice if roland had included some kind of display "notification" for lack of a better word that would tell you which mode you were in, i agree with that wholeheartedly. the person posting on this group that seems to have this unit dialed in like crazy is buzzap (not sure i have that exactly right). his posts seem to be the most comprehensive and thorough, and he might know better how to address what you're asking. (certainly better than roland, he says dripping with sarcasm). i personally have not used the unit in quite the same way you're describing. i tend to just build pieces within a given patch, using the three patterns to create loops of different lengths, directions, etc. john From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 05:56:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AC183BF2D; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 05:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <00f101c75faa$92781210$0d0ba8c0@AMD01> References: <030520071904.25471.45EC69B4000A3B720000637F2212020784020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> <20070305132727.bhmte1kfhckwc44k@69.89.21.76> <00f101c75faa$92781210$0d0ba8c0@AMD01> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6B781F57-F787-4B5E-99B6-F85820BC49A4@aol.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: john floridis Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 22:55:53 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AOL-IP: 69.145.124.236 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 05:56:09 +0000 (UTC) i didin't exactly use the word sarcasm well there.......meant to convey frustration with roland and compliment the poster buzzap. john From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 06:49:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1B733BF00; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 06:49:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00ee01c75fbb$9aed6240$69c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <762031.70916.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: mackie SRM 150's Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2007 23:49:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 06:49:36 +0000 (UTC) :) Yeah, but I'm using them for floor monitors at big bigs, like the Boise Experimental Music Festival, where you have a raised stage that is at least 30 feet wide, giant PA speakers and powered subs as mains, snake, mixer board, soundman, etc At this years's festival, I think I'm going to have a MONSTER PA. Passive 15" Cabs/horns with their own power amp, and two massive 1X15 sub cabs on each side...and MAJOR wattage in the cottage. This things could run a hard rock band with a 1000 person croud, easy. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.A. Angulo" To: Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 4:54 PM Subject: Re: mackie SRM 150's > wow Kris srm450 for floor monitors? not exactly > compact those babies are heavy,i am actually > considering buying them to use them as my main PA > speakers and use my yamahas ms150 as monitors(although > my back problems make me still flirt with the bose > PAS! > Luis > --- Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> I love the EV's. I have the SRM 450's, which I use >> for floor monitors, and then I have two EV SxA100 >> powered 1X12 cabs...they kick ass: >> >> http://www.krispenhartung.com/gear/ev100.jpg >> >> They are discontinued now and have a replacement, >> which I'm sure is good too. I'm a huge fan of EV >> cabs. >> >> All I need is one powered sub, and I have a comlete >> system, along with my Mackie 1642-VLZ Pro Mixer >> Board >> >> Kris >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Qua Veda" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 2:36 PM >> Subject: RE: mackie SRM 150's >> >> >> > While you're at it, check out EV's products in >> this size. >> > >> > I'm giving some thought to the Mackie 150's, plus >> a sub, for my 'multiple >> > speaker' setup >> > -Qua >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Andrew Koenig [mailto:ark@acm.org] >> > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 11:59 AM >> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> > Subject: RE: mackie SRM 150's >> > >> >> http://mackie.com/products/srm150/ >> > >> >> Mini PA -- 150 watts, 100-17K frequency response, >> 7.6 pounds, USD 300. >> > >> > By the way, here's the competition: >> > >> > http://www.tc-helicon.tc/Default.asp?Id=7274 >> > >> > Same price, approximately same size. It would be >> interesting to hear them >> > side by side. >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Have a burning question? > Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 07:11:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64AD63BF18; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 07:11:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45ED1436.50207@addcom.de> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 08:11:50 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Macintosh/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Why contemporary music sounds terrible References: <022820071642.26125.45E5B1090009E09F0000660D2216527966020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 07:11:55 +0000 (UTC) Tony K schrieb: > This is my current favorite "radio" station. > > www.last.fm > > type in a band name and the station plays related bands. I put in King > Crimson and got Van der Graaf Generator, Spock's Beard, Camel, Caravan, > Gong, Gentle Giant, Mahavishnu Orch., Soft Machine, Doors, The Mars > Volta, Tool, Zappa... That looks damn interesting, much better than MySpace... but no tag "loops", did you put your music up? does it get played there? It seems that Imogen Heap is the most successful looper there... Krispen and Per are a bit underated in comparison... ;-) Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 08:03:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7FEF3BF17; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 08:03:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=tqis8gWee6A9ym4cgatw3qNK3pp/6DnMc1F+1Xyh3iw9GU4pW4H79f3nVgJHmjYCxaUAGbKwTqs+fKSTxVVk2gDgIh5/lagG6VpmTTUPYj6xdNrocN18bf/Wg029NK4bQQOii2I+F+HT8F+6mWd8b6NWZTQBXyzYtS84a+qidyo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Fh1ncJsB6CbMQwmGgcg2rDsLzGUq1yNoDajrpebYJGfO3nAuDzOlUDXd+pRV1NQFo9nqj6gmXBssi1shGSJSr4LYwC3CEhsxsO1Lint/tDuy6//5Zz4+sOgSdmI5lbtgU2uaEkF0Pw/YaQX4WDSWMeO/06Cn81mWbrBGxjpkbZw= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <65865F047B28324D92F716B06CAAFE0F023267DA@sagemsg0020.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au> References: <65865F047B28324D92F716B06CAAFE0F023267DA@sagemsg0020.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <002874D1-FF3A-4AF4-ADBD-BF6EC0AE730C@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Introducing myself :: Rob McDade (South Australia) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 09:03:19 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <_V5_t.A.QsB.MBS7FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 08:03:24 +0000 (UTC) On 6 mar 2007, at 04.15, McDade, Rob (SLSA) wrote: > Hi, > This is my first post to this email list and I thought I'd introduce > myself. Hi Rob, and welcome to this list. Interesting idea you have about building stands for your instruments. I know some musician friends that did that. If you have a stand for your acoustic you could simply swing over the electric at your back when approaching the acoustic. That would be fun to watch, being in the audience ;-) I too play many instruments, but I have more or less chosen not to bring them all at gigs - rather focusing on techniques to use one instruments for many musical roles. Like bringing a cello bow and a flute with an electric guitar or like using a pitch shifter to make a tenor sax sound a little differently on some occasions. My newest love is an EWI and for this instrument I have created multi layered and cross-faded sampler patches of my stratocaster played through a cranked tube amp top plus marshal cabinet, so I can play those sounds with this little clarinet-like thing of metal and plastics. Very portable and good sounding but not quite as cool looking on stage as the top and cab with the strat ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 08:48:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C1183BF1B; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 08:48:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=pVCZXxOCu25Xn1Je1PhIUuGxTqrdfUV/nrrD8LP+qDtBbnvWzoq0p5oeJHxtRQvlPwIx9KbcYQH5KwJSiv5/fgGIPG5xuYXz9Ewn/EJKAQDE51EHnRW4P3ZGU6xbTah/uQdCQqb9rSAln4BZahT2Wg75ssKU/4WIOJ7pCfQVk+E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ZCa7wLodSITWQ3JtTUDikZvJpp+6Ic2HZPQTpOs0KLUwYMLuNTtH1jShfGOSMWNgf8ZUKkQggOz7489QQkxqohUX73NSXWw2ee2sZ9rICpas2OYLILLEJ5H2UPp48geC2gdtm0eE0228KC59uiUBtbeYv7ugfK0ttODOlpwrHjg= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45EC9C86.2020706@addcom.de> References: <20070221165352.13106.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45DC96FE.7070702@tiscali.co.uk> <45E3FB79.2060905@addcom.de> <45EC9C86.2020706@addcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <51A6A949-EFA3-486C-95F8-66AAC3736D5F@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Zipper Noise, an example Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 09:48:52 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 08:48:58 +0000 (UTC) > Per Boysen schrieb: >> You hear the zipper noise (of the TC Electronix FireworX) when I >> use the MIDI expression pedal to adjust the volume, something you >> do a lot when playing guitar (but never with wind instruments). >> It's a little annoying but not that bad that I wouldn't use the >> volume pedal at concert. Strange thing is that when I use a MIDI >> expression pedal to adjust the beat sync tempo division for the >> LFO bound filter (on the reverb return) there is no such noise. On 5 mar 2007, at 23.41, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Its very likely not an interference, its just unsmoothed direct > control of the amplitude. 128 steps are not fine enough... > You can test this, as its more audible on low frequency sine waves. > if you feed a sound without much overtones/treble and control the > volume is it more audible? Its hard to believe, that they don't > smooth it. > In my Max patches I usually smooth it with 20 ms which creates an > acceptable latency for volume control... Hi Stefan, Smothing was the first fix I tried with the FireworX, but it did not change the noise. I have noticed the same zipper noise also when (1) controlling other FireworX parameters than volume by MICI CC's and (2) in other software when controlling anything by external MIDI CC# (Ableton Live, NI Guitar Rig 2). Anyway, I did a check on what you said about overtone/treble rich sounds. But there is no difference to the noise added by moving the pedal when I feed the box low notes with no treble and when I feed it high and sparkly stuff. Applications I have been using a lot and where I have never noticed any such zipper noise when controlling a continuous parameter with a MIDI CC# are Logic and Numerology. Logic has a fader resolution far higher than the 128 steps of MIDI and Numerology has a built-in "scaling" (i.e. what you call "smoothing"). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 09:09:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A638C3BF1D; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 09:09:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAAO+7EXUSnIvk2dsb2JhbACPKgIBAQcODhyaGw Message-ID: <45ED2FAD.7000309@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 09:09:01 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Zipper , an example (software testing) References: <20070221165352.13106.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45DC96FE.7070702@tiscali.co.uk> <45E3FB79.2060905@addcom.de> <45EC9C86.2020706@addcom.de> <1173136695.45eca537e9ca6@webmail.musetrap.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1QlLdC.A.k1D.y-S7FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 09:09:06 +0000 (UTC) Charles Zwicky wrote: > > It really falls on the Beta testers. If they don't use the devices the > way that us on the cutting edge might then these things slip past them. Roland knew about some of the RC-50 issues already. Don't think they have much of a clue really, apart from being top notch at profits. Complex loop devices really need something more than to rely on the poor old "Beta Tester", as in someone who plays their music in the way they like to see if it works out on the new device. Indeed, it's highly desirable to have a beta tester like Andre Lafosse who'll push the technology to it's limit, but how realistic is that hope? As cpr hints, it's either down to the programmer to ensure that there's no way to crash the device for any possible sequence of button presses, or they should get someone else to do it. Typically, the programmer isn't the best tester of their own product, as they already "know to use it". As looping devices increase in capability, there's 2 ways I can see this going. 1) Actually pay someone to test, it's a skilled job. 2) Make it known that purchasers/users are "testers" right from the beginning, and have good provision for dealing with that. > This is why the RC-50 gets complaints here but the LP-1 and 2880 > don't...and vice versa in the mainstream press. The reason the LP-1 doesn't get complaints here is that these are dealt with on the LP-1 forum. There's not that many LP-1's in the world, so users get their answers direct from Bob Amstadt. Probably the 2880 is just too simple to have a lot of problems. Isn't the RC-50 the first looper by a major company to have these sort of problems? It's a lot easier to create bug free software if all the features are known before programming starts, and I'm guessing that's how the majors do it. The independent loop developers are usually open to change their product on the fly, which is no bad thing, but eventually tends to create difficulties and complications in the software. If we want to be on the "cutting edge" as loopers, I think we're going to be testers :-) andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 09:46:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 828123BF16; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 09:46:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00b601c75fd4$39595610$0d0ba8c0@AMD01> From: "arcmotion" To: References: <20070221165352.13106.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45DC96FE.7070702@tiscali.co.uk> <45E3FB79.2060905@addcom.de> <45EC9C86.2020706@addcom.de> <1173136695.45eca537e9ca6@webmail.musetrap.com> <45ED2FAD.7000309@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: response today from boss regarding the rc50 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 17:45:49 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.2826 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 Resent-Message-ID: <6dfGtD.A.nRF.hhT7FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68707 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 09:46:10 +0000 (UTC) "As the pedal exists today, there is no way around that slight delay when you change patches. Although there may be an update some day which addresses this, this is how the pedal works for now. If you need it to be fixed soon, you had better take it back. I hope that this helps answer your request. If you need more assistance in this matter, please either re-submit your support request or contact our Product Support Department at the appropriate number: Digital Recorders and Mixers: 323-890-3741 Guitar/Percussion Products: 323-890-3743 Pianos, Organs, Arrangers: 323-890-3744 Synths/Sound Modules/Groove Products: 323-890-3745 Product Support Main: 323-890-3740 Sincerely, Roland Product Support" if i knew it would be fixed one day then i could live with it but they wont even say that much. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 09:48:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55E003BF1D; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 09:48:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 10:48:35 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 09:48:40 +0000 (UTC) Imo the RC-50 is works fine since the 1.01 update. But I have the impress= ion some users don't exactly know how the device works regarding tempo sy= nc, loop sync and loop quantize. There are excellent PDF support doc's on= the Roland web site that cover these subject, highly recommended :) Personally, I think the RC-50 and offers good value for the money. But yo= u can't and should not compare it to high end devices such as the EDP or = LP-1; it offers less features, it's more a phrase sampler than a "delay" = type of looper. Sjaak=0A---=0AScarlet One Unlimited=0AFree national calls, surf up to 6 M= bit/s, 50 GB download volume=0AFor only EUR 49,95 per month. No Belgacom = subscription needed. All in!=0Ahttp://www.scarlet.be From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 10:00:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62D463BF1D; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 10:00:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45ED3BB4.7030308@addcom.de> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:00:20 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Macintosh/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: What do you think is necessary in order to have an excellentcomposition? References: <0db301c756b5$de9e63e0$b5b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45E6C25F.7040608@addcom.de> <006e01c75c1a$08320770$e1ccf40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <20070301104453.tvejz6vxtwkk4cc4@69.89.21.76> In-Reply-To: <20070301104453.tvejz6vxtwkk4cc4@69.89.21.76> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 10:00:27 +0000 (UTC) kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com schrieb: > Quoting Krispen Hartung : > >> Imagine if everything time I said something was >> beautiful, I had to qualify exactly what I meant down the specific >> logical atoms that denoted my owen sensory data or memories of sensory >> data. It would take hours and we'd never be able to communicate. It's >> easier to just use the word and assume we have a common understand in >> absence of there being an actual "Thing" out there called beauty. > > This point is well-taken: that a word such as "beauty" is a shorthand > that we can use to communicate with the presumption that you and I have > enough in common that our respective approaches to "beauty" are similar. I don't think its a shorthand for something else... If I talk about beauty, I talk about beauty! To come back to Wittgenstein, he claimed the meaning and function of a word is defined by its usage. We learn how to use the word beauty, and have a feeling when its used correctly. But a term like "beauty" is much less defined than a term like "red". Sooner or later we will find somebody who uses it in a context which seems contradictory to the way we used to use it. There are two ways to react. Recontextualise the word, learn that its only valid in a subjective context - or fight for the correct use we have learned so far. How many flamewars are based on simple missunderstandings?... All this depends a lot on our social context. A father would always teach his children his way of usage, correctly assuming the kids have not enough experience to judge yet, and for the child it's the other way around. We can't learn our language without teachers... In on-line communities the ability to judge the experience of a member is much more difficult, that's why flame wars are quite common... And the meaning of words like "beauty" we usually learn from stories. Music can be a purely emotional told story without words. I remember exactly how my father was excited about the string quartets from Schubert, played by the Melos Quartet. This opened me certainly for the beauty of that music... (If I tell a story like that, I probably do not need to explain the word beauty any further, its short, clear and obvious, and any further explanation would destroy the beauty of the story... ;-) Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 10:02:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AE263BF22; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 10:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00be01c75fd6$8e72b270$0d0ba8c0@AMD01> From: "arcmotion" To: References: Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 18:02:31 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.2826 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 10:02:49 +0000 (UTC) so you could do a chord progression say with a beat that loops. Then copy that patch to the next number ...and then freely move between each patch without a glitch in the beat?? is that possible. Imo the RC-50 is works fine since the 1.01 update. But I have the impression some users don't exactly know how the device works regarding tempo sync, loop sync and loop quantize. There are excellent PDF support doc's on the Roland web site that cover these subject, highly recommended :) Personally, I think the RC-50 and offers good value for the money. But you can't and should not compare it to high end devices such as the EDP or LP-1; it offers less features, it's more a phrase sampler than a "delay" type of looper. Sjaak --- Scarlet One Unlimited Free national calls, surf up to 6 Mbit/s, 50 GB download volume For only EUR 49,95 per month. No Belgacom subscription needed. All in! http://www.scarlet.be From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 11:30:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 121183BF1E; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 11:30:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAP7f7EXUSnIvk2dsb2JhbACPKgIBAQcODhyaEg Message-ID: <45ED4F0B.9090709@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:22:51 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: response today from boss regarding the rc50 References: <20070221165352.13106.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45DC96FE.7070702@tiscali.co.uk> <45E3FB79.2060905@addcom.de> <45EC9C86.2020706@addcom.de> <1173136695.45eca537e9ca6@webmail.musetrap.com> <45ED2FAD.7000309@tiscali.co.uk> <00b601c75fd4$39595610$0d0ba8c0@AMD01> In-Reply-To: <00b601c75fd4$39595610$0d0ba8c0@AMD01> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 11:30:50 +0000 (UTC) > "As the pedal exists today, there is no way around that slight delay > when you change patches. Although there may be an update some day which > addresses this, this is how the pedal works for now. If you need it to > be fixed soon, you had better take it back. > I hope that this helps answer your request. If you need more assistance > in this matter, please either re-submit your support request or contact > our Product Support Department at the appropriate number: > Sincerely, > Roland Product Support" > My guess is that "Roland Product Support" is some poor guy with a stack of manuals to read and no official way to communicate with the product designers. ( I think this because that's exactly what happens with Yamaha ) andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 12:37:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C31393BF22; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 12:37:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 13:37:11 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 12:37:14 +0000 (UTC) > so you could do a chord progression say with a beat that loops. Then co= py > that patch to the next number ...and then freely move between each patc= h > without a glitch in the beat?? is that possible. Nope....you're only alternative is to work with the 3 indivudual phrases = within a patch. But agree, it would be nice if Boss would implement a gli= tch free patch change in a future update. My other wishes: 1) midi feedback control per phrase 2) improved midi tempo sync bases on midi clock only (without the need fo= r a midi start message) 3) phrase half speed Sjaak=0A---=0AScarlet One Unlimited=0AFree national calls, surf up to 6 M= bit/s, 50 GB download volume=0AFor only EUR 49,95 per month. No Belgacom = subscription needed. All in!=0Ahttp://www.scarlet.be From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 13:01:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E89AA3BF24; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 13:01:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1173185397.45ed6375de022@webmail.m3ch.net> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 06:49:57 -0600 From: Mech To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: OT: MIDI CC Resolution.... References: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7202135F4B@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7202135F4B@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 58.181.138.75 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 13:01:21 +0000 (UTC) Quoting "Goddard, Duncan" : > >> > >>If the LP-1 *could* accomodate greater resolution from using such > >>pairs, is there any device out there that could actually send > >>them? > > the peavey pc1600 or 1600x is pretty well equipped for custom > midi commands. You're right Duncan, and I sort of had it in the back of my mind that the PC1600x might be able to handle it. Unfortunately, I haven't done as much as I should with my 1600 since getting a PMC-10 about a year ago. The Digitech floorpedal is a bit less 'spaghetti-ish' than my previous setup of using the PC1600x fader controller with a couple of footpedals. However, even the PMC-10 seems a bit limited in this respect, since the pedals are more constrained in their assignments (not so with the switches, but that'll only get you snapshot control). So we've identified one controller that can probably send the appropriate resolution, even if it's not primarily geared for floor use. I would imagine the Kenton faderbox might be able to do similar, since it's a fairly close competitor to the Peavey, but I don't know that for certain. Any others out there (particularly floor pedals)? --m. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 13:05:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DFD033BF00; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 13:05:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <010f01c75ff0$0bc26ef0$0d0ba8c0@AMD01> From: "arcmotion" To: References: Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:04:59 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.2826 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 13:05:16 +0000 (UTC) Thanks Sjaak ...for a clarification...at least i can put that one to rest for now. if i look upon the rc50 as a three loop stereo device with midi out basic drum and a decay workaround in one package....the price its not too bad at all. Just hope in time that roland will fix the problems. Limitations can be a good thing...right!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:37 PM Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question > so you could do a chord progression say with a beat that loops. Then copy > that patch to the next number ...and then freely move between each patch > without a glitch in the beat?? is that possible. Nope....you're only alternative is to work with the 3 indivudual phrases within a patch. But agree, it would be nice if Boss would implement a glitch free patch change in a future update. My other wishes: 1) midi feedback control per phrase 2) improved midi tempo sync bases on midi clock only (without the need for a midi start message) 3) phrase half speed Sjaak --- Scarlet One Unlimited Free national calls, surf up to 6 Mbit/s, 50 GB download volume For only EUR 49,95 per month. No Belgacom subscription needed. All in! http://www.scarlet.be From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 13:44:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B9663BF1D; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 13:44:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=nf/GtYu9EtmG3VuZnBB1JozfvaGW8ozcaKfoQSuZl/c/+/aD8PIW9JU9WksaW32KjfYq9rb9G1mRKzMNImf2eL8aXOWXKsw3kyfIgeipP42QKwIPAw4RIa/e5/PUrUviyL8Aw1pzPUeZkB+CYh70mPnxm2sT24AFMA0nhJcRTqs= ; X-YMail-OSG: nYUtefEVM1nt9xo5VdXwcHdtyiWqjsg9HMEQ1JWiz3.XK577epFORrKSrx2ksXd_UZqg.MmvSuQU7xLBzGQYeB3MY8qeFCzhw7R0JqWmcRVzZOiJwd8eds75tRbdFtt1HF8f6vAOPF5liXcf9dAxICo- Message-ID: <00fb01c75ff5$80d97670$6902a8c0@PC576340162804> From: "Ben" To: References: <65865F047B28324D92F716B06CAAFE0F023267DA@sagemsg0020.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au> <000501c75fa3$e3d45580$4201a8c0@MichaelPlishka> <038d01c75fa6$18df3680$4a9da380$@com> Subject: Re: Reactable Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 14:43:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 13:44:18 +0000 (UTC) It looks more like a modular synth like the moog or clavia modular, I'd say. Now, speaking of looping, I guess a LFO modulating the frequency or a 16-steps sequencer controlling the filter cutoff of a droning OSC can be also called looping. I think the modular guru's call this noodling. Some cool stuff in the same "midi" looping categories are appearing: yamaha tenori-on a.. http://www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=4357 a.. www.global.yamaha.com/design/tenori-on a.. www.tenorion.blogspot.com or the nintendo electroPlankton: http://electroplankton.nintendods.com/flash.html It's a beautiful world we are living in ;-) Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "hazard factor" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 5:15 AM Subject: Reactable > So has anyone else seen the videos for the Reactable @ > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR0IBdoPiho > Yeah, it is weird. From the video, it looks like there is more looping > than > actual sequencing, but it looks pretty fun to play with and create Atari > 1977 sounds. I'd like a whole wall make out of this stuff, really. > > > Dave Eichenberger > http://www.daveeichenberger.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail réinvente le mail ! Découvrez le nouveau Yahoo! Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 13:47:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30E1E3BF21; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 13:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1173188177.45ed6e51ae417@webmail.m3ch.net> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 07:36:17 -0600 From: Mech To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: MIDI CC Resolution (was: Considering building an ultimate looper...) References: <20070217230220.2080E38102@astra.telenet-ops.be> <45DC37F1.8010700@addcom.de> <1172077856.45dc7d2014846@webmail.musetrap.com> <1173088303.45ebe82f7d3a8@webmail.m3ch.net> <1173120258.45ec6502aa013@webmail.musetrap.com> In-Reply-To: <1173120258.45ec6502aa013@webmail.musetrap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 58.181.138.75 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 13:47:41 +0000 (UTC) Quoting cpr@musetrap.com: > > You are correct.. I had forgotten about that, and did not continue > forth in my reading once I thought I had my answer.. :) Hey, thanks for the verification that I'd read the spec correctly. But I'd say, given the current state of controllers out there, that the original solution you hit upon is the most compatible, since most pedals can be set to manipulate Pitch Wheel. I'd wonder if there are any pedals other than the ones that we've mentioned that will even merely transmit proper MSB/LSB Mod Wheel, rather than dumbing it down to MSB only. > So, I think, instead of the a new ultimate looper, we need an > ultimate midi pedal.. which is not a new topic either.. :) I heard you there! The sad thing is that I've actually gone through and done some design work for a MIDI widget that could fairly easily incorporate something like this. Problem is, while I can put stuff together on paper, I know crap about programming embedded systems or, for that matter, doing hardware manufacture in general. I've played at fabricating some boutique stompbox 'ideas', but that's a fur piece from what would be required for the circuit of a data project like the one I've in mind. Ah well.... :P --m. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 14:44:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D9EBC3BF16; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 14:44:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=IK1f3VT+qZ4ooV0y1KCA+A72gC3r7qiwedtTDFPOnaQOq9I9LVbQSUdrtb6CuEfLTc5Lu2NonIqJRRQkSl0LmQ7FVer+UfV62NysU4x3jCM6LQCw+kSzBr7j6r8rzZZyIvHJSCSSHu6qkrFLLsg9D7NRDctnqeay4PU9ZGo1NzM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=QW1OOTPSkaXNWTUDiv5N2YFfAmavn6uDBz2vUwycmC0xqmj+7gNQvC/S7r6S7WLI5C47u9q+dwhfdIktMJhSHic+W/fwl7yAyZLaBjVMD/bRr1bv0bTuuqIxiZhEPfjKS00mv4xyKzT00iDIerRw/AGtCHHhgd0zwHVhrwNTD7Y= In-Reply-To: <01c201c75a1e$f332cd20$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <01c201c75a1e$f332cd20$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: mp3 clip posted Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 15:44:34 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 14:44:40 +0000 (UTC) Humbly posting a clip of todays live looping practice, if anyone cares to listen: http://www.looproom.com/audio/abc.mp3 per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 15:02:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 095733BF1C; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 15:02:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <45ED2FAD.7000309@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20070221165352.13106.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45DC96FE.7070702@tiscali.co.uk> <45E3FB79.2060905@addcom.de> <45EC9C86.2020706@addcom.de> <1173136695.45eca537e9ca6@webmail.musetrap.com> <45ED2FAD.7000309@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 09:19:05 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Zipper , an example (software testing) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120066e7f2d91c248ef96a69ee36a8258bdc371443ee70fa11b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 15:02:45 +0000 (UTC) Andy, I think this assesment is too cynical. I have done beta testing with several pro audio manufaturers (I am a professional recording engineer) and the reality is that the "programmer " is often a part of a team of developers and programmers, and in DSP driven products, there are programmers dedicated to user interface, DSP coding, algorhythm design API integration (if it's software) etc. As a beta tester, I was perhaps the only member of the 'team' who dealt extensively and exclusivly with the end product. The basic reality is that the alpha and beta devices are broken and malfunctioning and need sombody with excellent troubleshooting -and particularly communication - skills to sus them out. At some point, there is a 'drop dead' date and the thing gets released, warts and all. -CZ >Charles Zwicky wrote: >> >>It really falls on the Beta testers. If they don't use the devices >>the way that us on the cutting edge might then these things slip >>past them. > >Roland knew about some of the RC-50 issues already. >Don't think they have much of a clue really, apart from being top >notch at profits. > >Complex loop devices really need something more than to rely on the >poor old "Beta Tester", as in someone who plays their music in the >way they like to see if it works out on the new device. > >Indeed, it's highly desirable to have a beta tester like Andre >Lafosse who'll push the technology to it's limit, but how realistic >is that hope? > >As cpr hints, it's either down to the programmer to ensure that >there's no way to crash the device for any possible sequence of >button presses, or they should get someone else to do it. Typically, >the programmer isn't the best tester of their own product, as they >already "know to use it". >As looping devices increase in capability, there's 2 ways I can see >this going. > >1) Actually pay someone to test, it's a skilled job. >2) Make it known that purchasers/users are "testers" right from the >beginning, and have good provision for dealing with that. > >>This is why the RC-50 gets complaints here but the LP-1 and 2880 >>don't...and vice versa in the mainstream press. > >The reason the LP-1 doesn't get complaints here is that these are >dealt with on the LP-1 forum. >There's not that many LP-1's in the world, so users get their >answers direct from Bob Amstadt. >Probably the 2880 is just too simple to have a lot of problems. > > >Isn't the RC-50 the first looper by a major company to have these >sort of problems? >It's a lot easier to create bug free software if all the features >are known before programming starts, and I'm guessing that's how the >majors do it. The independent loop developers are usually open to >change their product on the fly, which is no bad thing, but >eventually tends to create difficulties and complications in the >software. > >If we want to be on the "cutting edge" as loopers, I think we're >going to be testers :-) > >andy butler > -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 15:38:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 018193BF1C; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 15:38:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: midifriedchicken@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 15:38:43 +0000 Message-Id: <030620071538.6337.45ED8B0300093E4B000018C12216527966020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWlkaWZyaWVkY2hpY2tlbkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_6337_1173195523_0" Resent-Message-ID: <6IPUY.A.m7D.HsY7FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 15:38:47 +0000 (UTC) --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_6337_1173195523_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yes. I can do that. I cant switch between banks without a pause, but between loops (when set to single) you should be able to do that. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "arcmotion" > > so you could do a chord progression say with a beat that loops. Then copy > that patch to the next number ...and then freely move between each patch > without a glitch in the beat?? is that possible. > > > > Imo the RC-50 is works fine since the 1.01 update. But I have the impression > some users don't exactly know how the device works regarding tempo sync, > loop sync and loop quantize. There are excellent PDF support doc's on the > Roland web site that cover these subject, highly recommended :) > > Personally, I think the RC-50 and offers good value for the money. But you > can't and should not compare it to high end devices such as the EDP or LP-1; > it offers less features, it's more a phrase sampler than a "delay" type of > looper. > > Sjaak > --- > Scarlet One Unlimited > Free national calls, surf up to 6 Mbit/s, 50 GB download volume > For only EUR 49,95 per month. No Belgacom subscription needed. All in! > http://www.scarlet.be > > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_6337_1173195523_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
     
    Yes. I can do that. I cant switch between banks without a pause, but between loops (when set to single) you should be able to do that.
    -------------- Original message --------------
    From: "arcmotion" <andrzej@arcmotion.com>

    >
    > so you could do a chord progression say with a beat that loops. Then copy
    > that patch to the next number ...and then freely move between each patch
    > without a glitch in the beat?? is that possible.
    >
    >
    >
    > Imo the RC-50 is works fine since the 1.01 update. But I have the impression
    > some users don't exactly know how the device works regarding tempo sync,
    > loop sync and loop quantize. There are excellent PDF support doc's on the
    > Roland web site that cover these subject, highly recommended :)
    >
    > Personally, I think the RC-50 and offers good value for the money. But you
    > can't and should not compare it to high end devices such as the EDP or LP-1;
    > it offers less features, it's more a phrase sampler than a "delay" type of
    > looper.
    >
    > Sjaak
    > ---
    > Scarlet One Unlimited
    > Free national calls, surf up to 6 Mbit/s, 50 GB download volume
    > For only EUR 49,95 per month. No Belgacom subscription needed. All in!
    > http://www.scarlet.be
    >
    >
    --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_6337_1173195523_0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 15:40:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13CC23BF17; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 15:40:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <65865F047B28324D92F716B06CAAFE0F023267DA@sagemsg0020.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au> References: <65865F047B28324D92F716B06CAAFE0F023267DA@sagemsg0020.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4--532566768 Message-Id: From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: Introducing myself :: Rob McDade (South Australia) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 07:40:45 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 15:40:52 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4--532566768 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi Rob! I could not listen to all of your tracks -- gotta leave to go to work =20= now. I enjoyed what I heard though. Perhaps I'l get a chance to listen later from the office. Your "rock" splaying on "Rob's Freakout" is wonderfully, funky and =20 "retro." And, I do hear a Will Ackerman influence in "Something Green" too. You'll find folks who play in lottsa different styles on this list. Just about everything but polka I think -- but you never know. Welcome aboard. Peace, tEd =AE kiLLiAn http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?=20 playListId=3D6378076 =93It may be true that my desk here is really "nothing but" a transient =20= eddy of electrons in the flux of universal process. Nevertheless, I =20 find that it continues to support my feet, my revolver, and my cigars =20= all day long. What happens when my back is turned I don't know. Or much =20= care. That's no concern of mine.=94 -- Edward Abbey http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?=20 step=3Dview_profile&id=3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, =20 BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, =20 AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, =20= EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, =20= yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? "Different is not always better, but better is always different" On Mar 5, 2007, at 7:15 PM, McDade, Rob (SLSA) wrote: > Hi, > This is my first post to this email list and I thought I'd introduce > myself. (Snip) > Hope to hear from fellow loopers soon. I'm sure I know some of you out > there! > cheers > > Rob McDade > www.myspace.com/robmcdade > www.mp3.com.au/robmcdade > --Apple-Mail-4--532566768 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Hi Rob!=20 I could not listen to all of your tracks -- gotta leave to go to work now. I enjoyed what I heard though. Perhaps I'l get a chance to listen later from the office. Your "rock" splaying on "Rob's Freakout" is wonderfully, funky and "retro." And, I do hear a Will Ackerman influence in "Something Green" too. You'll find folks who play in lottsa different styles on this list. Just about everything but polka I think -- but you never know. Welcome aboard.=20 Peace, tEd =AE kiLLiAn = 0000,0000,8080http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZS= tore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=3D6378076 8080,0000,0000=93It may be true that my desk here is really "nothing but" a transient eddy of electrons in the flux of universal process. Nevertheless, I find that it continues to support my feet, my revolver, and my cigars all day long. What happens when my back is turned I don't know. Or much care. That's no concern of mine.=94 -- Edward Abbey 8080,8080,8080 http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 = http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? 8080,0000,0000"Different is not always better, but better is always different" On Mar 5, 2007, at 7:15 PM, McDade, Rob (SLSA) wrote: Hi, This is my first post to this email list and I thought I'd introduce myself.=20 (Snip) Hope to hear from fellow loopers soon. I'm sure I know some of you out there! cheers Rob McDade www.myspace.com/robmcdade www.mp3.com.au/robmcdade = --Apple-Mail-4--532566768-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 16:00:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0B763BF25; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 16:00:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAFce7UXUSnInk2dsb2JhbACPKwIBAQcODR2Zfg Message-ID: <45ED8D47.4070501@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 15:48:23 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Zipper , an example (software testing) References: <20070221165352.13106.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45DC96FE.7070702@tiscali.co.uk> <45E3FB79.2060905@addcom.de> <45EC9C86.2020706@addcom.de> <1173136695.45eca537e9ca6@webmail.musetrap.com> <45ED2FAD.7000309@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 16:00:25 +0000 (UTC) Charles Zwicky wrote: > > > Andy, > I think this assesment is too cynical. sure, :-) fit's the facts though. Where are the bug free DSP devices? ( other than simple ones ) > I have done beta testing with > several pro audio manufaturers (I am a professional recording engineer) > and the reality is that the "programmer " is often a part of a team of > developers and programmers, and in DSP driven products, there are > programmers dedicated to user interface, DSP coding, algorhythm design > API integration (if it's software) etc. Right, and that would be the case with Roland. Actually I don't think Roland have a lot of bugs in their gear. I'd be fairly certain they have guys to systematically test their products. ( but who wouldn't conceive what LDers would want to do with it) > As a beta tester, I was perhaps > the only member of the 'team' who dealt extensively and exclusivly with > the end product. > The basic reality is that the alpha and beta devices > are broken and malfunctioning and need sombody with excellent > troubleshooting -and particularly communication - skills to sus them > out. wanna job ? :-) > At some point, there is a 'drop dead' date and the thing gets > released, warts and all. Well, I'd agree with that. That's why the LP-1 thing works so well. There's no cut off date. The buyer is a tester, and possibly a contributor. ...and generally buyers end up happy. The same model works for software loopers. andy butler > > -CZ > >> Charles Zwicky wrote: >>> >>> It really falls on the Beta testers. If they don't use the devices >>> the way that us on the cutting edge might then these things slip past >>> them. >> >> Roland knew about some of the RC-50 issues already. >> Don't think they have much of a clue really, apart from being top >> notch at profits. >> >> Complex loop devices really need something more than to rely on the >> poor old "Beta Tester", as in someone who plays their music in the way >> they like to see if it works out on the new device. >> >> Indeed, it's highly desirable to have a beta tester like Andre Lafosse >> who'll push the technology to it's limit, but how realistic is that >> hope? >> >> As cpr hints, it's either down to the programmer to ensure that >> there's no way to crash the device for any possible sequence of button >> presses, or they should get someone else to do it. Typically, the >> programmer isn't the best tester of their own product, as they already >> "know to use it". >> As looping devices increase in capability, there's 2 ways I can see >> this going. >> >> 1) Actually pay someone to test, it's a skilled job. >> 2) Make it known that purchasers/users are "testers" right from the >> beginning, and have good provision for dealing with that. >> >>> This is why the RC-50 gets complaints here but the LP-1 and 2880 >>> don't...and vice versa in the mainstream press. >> >> The reason the LP-1 doesn't get complaints here is that these are >> dealt with on the LP-1 forum. >> There's not that many LP-1's in the world, so users get their answers >> direct from Bob Amstadt. >> Probably the 2880 is just too simple to have a lot of problems. >> >> >> Isn't the RC-50 the first looper by a major company to have these sort >> of problems? >> It's a lot easier to create bug free software if all the features are >> known before programming starts, and I'm guessing that's how the >> majors do it. The independent loop developers are usually open to >> change their product on the fly, which is no bad thing, but eventually >> tends to create difficulties and complications in the software. >> >> If we want to be on the "cutting edge" as loopers, I think we're going >> to be testers :-) >> >> andy butler >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 16:17:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72E233BF1C; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 16:17:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45ED9409.4080001@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 10:17:13 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hartung's 'Fragments' References: <047e01c759b8$5bda5bc0$20b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <047e01c759b8$5bda5bc0$20b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 16:17:18 +0000 (UTC) I've been listening to "Fragments" for weeks now since Krispen sent it off free (thanks!) and thought I should do a brief review. It's impossible to get away from the space metaphors, like everybody else...I think there's no question, this album is out there! On this particular recording (Krispen's a /wide-ranging/ artist) he specializes in interplanetary soundscapes, full of oddly twisted guitars that repeat like babbling creatures and all kinds of far-off noises that may or may not be powered by solar wind. "Mork og Iser" sounds like gyoto monks being encircled by serpents. "Attack of the Mini Tabla" somehow finds a sexy rhythm in the confusion, unlikely as that is. That plus the shocking bongo solo make it seems like a scrap of Jobim that made its way to another galaxy through a rip in the fabric of the universe, and somehow managed to jam along with the three-headed natives. The last track, "Nebula", is gorgeous, its lush emotion brought into even sharper relief by the stark obliquity of the preceding tracks. All in all, it's a wonderful and strange ride through a place very few have visited, and only those with powerful telescopes and deep imagination have even glimpsed. thanks again Krispen. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 16:22:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1D133BF1B; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 16:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <45ED8D47.4070501@tiscali.co.uk> References: <20070221165352.13106.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45DC96FE.7070702@tiscali.co.uk> <45E3FB79.2060905@addcom.de> <45EC9C86.2020706@addcom.de> <1173136695.45eca537e9ca6@webmail.musetrap.com> <45ED2FAD.7000309@tiscali.co.uk> <45ED8D47.4070501@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 11:21:38 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Zipper , an example (software testing) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120066e7f2d91c248efc940a20281f7b1654eb673808e826de6350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 16:22:02 +0000 (UTC) >Actually I don't think Roland have a lot of bugs in their gear. > >I'd be fairly certain they have guys to systematically test their products. >( but who wouldn't conceive what LDers would want to do with it) But the major complaints so far with the RC-50 have to to with audio interruptions, either from recording or switching loops. How is it that the Lexicon Jamman has no such issues and the RC-50 does? Too many features and not enough DSP / memory to go around. Is this a bug? The official reply is "If you don't like it, don't use that feature". Defining a 'bug' is tricky. Sometimes a 'bug' is let through because it's not considered a problem in normal use. On the other hand... The EH 16 second delay has a time stretch feature. It's really wacky and can be used with the tempo slider in real time to add odd textures to the loop. The designer excluded this feature on the 2880 because he didn't like the sound. In one sense this 'feature' was a 'bug' and 'fixed' in the next product. > >> As a beta tester, I was perhaps the only member of the 'team' who >>dealt extensively and exclusivly with the end product. >>The basic reality is that the alpha and beta devices are broken and >>malfunctioning and need sombody with excellent troubleshooting -and >>particularly communication - skills to sus them out. > >wanna job ? :-) What need testing? > >> At some point, there is a 'drop dead' date and the thing gets >>released, warts and all. > >Well, I'd agree with that. > >That's why the LP-1 thing works so well. >There's no cut off date. >The buyer is a tester, and possibly a contributor. >...and generally buyers end up happy. > >The same model works for software loopers. > >andy butler -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 17:18:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3325C3BF20; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 17:18:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <018101c76013$81b8b740$69c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <047e01c759b8$5bda5bc0$20b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45ED9409.4080001@mhorse.com> Subject: Re: Hartung's 'Fragments' Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 10:18:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 17:18:55 +0000 (UTC) This is one of the best reviews I have received. Thanks, Daryl. I owe you one...a nice beer at Y2K7? :) Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:17 AM Subject: Re: Hartung's 'Fragments' > I've been listening to "Fragments" for weeks now since Krispen sent it off > free (thanks!) and thought I should do a brief review. It's impossible to > get away from the space metaphors, like everybody else...I think there's > no question, this album is out there! > > On this particular recording (Krispen's a /wide-ranging/ artist) he > specializes in interplanetary soundscapes, full of oddly twisted guitars > that repeat like babbling creatures and all kinds of far-off noises that > may or may not be powered by solar wind. "Mork og Iser" sounds like gyoto > monks being encircled by serpents. "Attack of the Mini Tabla" somehow > finds a sexy rhythm in the confusion, unlikely as that is. That plus the > shocking bongo solo make it seems like a scrap of Jobim that made its way > to another galaxy through a rip in the fabric of the universe, and somehow > managed to jam along with the three-headed natives. The last track, > "Nebula", is gorgeous, its lush emotion brought into even sharper relief > by the stark obliquity of the preceding tracks. All in all, it's a > wonderful and strange ride through a place very few have visited, and only > those with powerful telescopes and deep imagination have even glimpsed. > > thanks again Krispen. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 17:27:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7556B3BF1D; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 17:27:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45EDA482.5090807@addcom.de> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:27:30 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Macintosh/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: MIDI CC Resolution References: <20070217230220.2080E38102@astra.telenet-ops.be> <45DC37F1.8010700@addcom.de> <1172077856.45dc7d2014846@webmail.musetrap.com> <1173088303.45ebe82f7d3a8@webmail.m3ch.net> <1173120258.45ec6502aa013@webmail.musetrap.com> In-Reply-To: <1173120258.45ec6502aa013@webmail.musetrap.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 17:27:34 +0000 (UTC) cpr@musetrap.com schrieb: > So, I think, instead of the a new ultimate looper, we need an > ultimate midi pedal.. which is not a new topic either.. :) a device > where the knobs, sliders, and/or pedals have the ability to send not > only standard midi, but the ability to pair up CC's for the improved > resolution.. of course, since we are moving out of the 'spec', we > could go as far as combining more than 2 CC's for an even greater > resolution... This isn't moving out of the specs, 14-bit controllers are well defined. But resolution isn't a problem with foot pedals, I doubt you could control more than the 128 steps with your foot. Its about the curve on how you control parameters. If you want finer resolution on the low end, you need to be able to shape it somehow... If you linearly map 96 dB to 128 steps, you'd have less than one dB of resolution per step. But half way through you have already -48 dB compared to full blast, which is in a noise environment already silence. Now if you'd just map 48 dB to 128 steps, you have a problem in the low end, you need a nonlinear mapping to feel comfortable. Even if you push the resolution to 16384 steps (14-bit) it won't help with the curve.... > timing becomes more important as we chain the commands together, as a > full CC message on midi hardware takes 1ms to make it's trip... but, > if the sending device correctly supports 'running status' the two CC > version will only take 1.6ms, instead of 2ms.. and if we jumped up up > to a 4 message CC (for a 32766 resolution) it would be 2.8ms A 4 message CC would spans 28-bits wich is 268435455 resolution (3 messages would span 2097151 steps) I have no idea what this should be good for. Usually the highest resolution on faders you get on commercial fader boxes is 10-bit, for two reasons. You can't really control it more precise (its 1024 steps) and you'd likely have noise on the line, which would let the MSB fluctuate and you'd stream Midi always and not only if you change something meaningful... The timing by the way is much less critical on continuous controllers, you don't hit them like drums... > While we are talking about controllers, I think coming up with a > pedal that can have it's current position set (like knobs with halos, > or motorized faders) would be cool as well.. Nate Pease and I talked > about a 'roller' with the current position represented by LED's (like > the knob with halo)... I like that idea a lot, and I recall that I have seen something like that somewhere... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 17:30:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF9CF3BF2B; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 17:30:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 12:29:40 -0500 (EST) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Re: Subscape Annex at Breakfest March 3, Chapel Hill NC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <3291968.1172822211741.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 17:30:44 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, burnett@pobox.com wrote: > On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, stanitarium@earthlink.net wrote: >> Steve B wrote: >>> http://www.subscapeannex.com/pics/flyer12.jpg >> soundz like my kinda low frequency gang- >> wish i were there As followup to this show: it went *great*, good people, good music from everyone. I recorded my set, here: http://www.subscapeannex.com/other/at_the_philbog.mp3 "Live at the Philbog": 15MB, 23minutes, live looping improvisational Chapman Stick with E-Bow. #################### In addition, later that same evening, I played an outdoor concert in the middle of nowhere with Projexorcism. http://www.myspace.com/projexorcism Projexorcism's bit is to use 4 16mm film projectors hanging from a frame, and trigger/swing them in and out of usage and cut them on and off, remixing the video live in a sequential cut up / mashup technique. I've played with them several times before. I didn't record the audio of the bonfire concert, but I took pictures of the video and fire, (and people got a couple of me with Chapman Stick against the bonfire), up on flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/52422536@N00/tags/totaleclipseofthemoon/ best, Steve B steve@subscapeannex.com Subscape Annex http://www.subscapeannex.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 17:30:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DDF53BF38; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 17:30:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45EDA540.2050905@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 11:30:40 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hartung's 'Fragments' References: <047e01c759b8$5bda5bc0$20b2ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45ED9409.4080001@mhorse.com> <018101c76013$81b8b740$69c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <018101c76013$81b8b740$69c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 17:30:47 +0000 (UTC) That would be perfectly adequate compensation, I'll look forward to it..! I'm sure discussing analog vs. digital looping ought to last us a round! cheers- Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > This is one of the best reviews I have received. Thanks, Daryl. I owe > you one...a nice beer at Y2K7? :) > > Kris > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 9:17 AM > Subject: Re: Hartung's 'Fragments' > > >> I've been listening to "Fragments" for weeks now since Krispen sent >> it off free (thanks!) and thought I should do a brief review. It's >> impossible to get away from the space metaphors, like everybody >> else...I think there's no question, this album is out there! >> >> On this particular recording (Krispen's a /wide-ranging/ artist) he >> specializes in interplanetary soundscapes, full of oddly twisted >> guitars that repeat like babbling creatures and all kinds of far-off >> noises that may or may not be powered by solar wind. "Mork og Iser" >> sounds like gyoto monks being encircled by serpents. "Attack of the >> Mini Tabla" somehow finds a sexy rhythm in the confusion, unlikely as >> that is. That plus the shocking bongo solo make it seems like a scrap >> of Jobim that made its way to another galaxy through a rip in the >> fabric of the universe, and somehow managed to jam along with the >> three-headed natives. The last track, "Nebula", is gorgeous, its lush >> emotion brought into even sharper relief by the stark obliquity of >> the preceding tracks. All in all, it's a wonderful and strange ride >> through a place very few have visited, and only those with powerful >> telescopes and deep imagination have even glimpsed. >> >> thanks again Krispen. >> >> Daryl Shawn >> www.swanwelder.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 17:41:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71B9A3BF2F; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 17:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=O3LBwHThZxBpzE+0VBx4o6tJMhgLrFthvXOswVctVWhZzOTjUXIVkrCHRvozCd0I5uqgKz8uTie+ZiCS9lCYT39C/av9t7X43CttqOSqokoWRs1cc1026lGByP1sbCjMS+F6xSm38QRC6uK27eXHXv8HqmHelNXmhdYLLks/a94=; X-YMail-OSG: DWjtQ.8VM1k4VTGph6fjNhmZb.3kg.UmKRSMn.pQOugGjXdyYHzMYmYkdbmE5ag1fxA8iVuGVPw9XBOAY5J2Hlv6d9vRsgf24YnsHxQJW5J1ixNsZYKGk903_E3zhaJvc3.gvNynCro- Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 18:41:46 +0100 (CET) From: rune fagereng Subject: re: mp3 clip posted To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <444823.98628.qm@web26210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 17:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! I thought you played sax - this sounds like a guitar-hero.. It was guitar ? Nice ! best regards Rune F. --- Per Boysen skrev: > Humbly posting a clip of todays live looping > practice, if anyone > cares to listen: > http://www.looproom.com/audio/abc.mp3 > > per > > www.runefagereng.com Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Mob: 917 95 867 _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 18:10:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F7793BF18; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 18:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=U7T6R4xJnZ/Ac9uCMJ0P4nW3oFUgvIscpiQ9OEv2drGtTAKxGI+SgqiVlOmT8kPVMkOgGTE4MHSPHNGXnhfcVNlqybyw3K4EXJ7WFHHlQQWNoruMDCUZEpxfaA8aTnNLC3G218d+agMIc1Xy/PBUSf+UG198g4XtWLQB66T6L+8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=TGeRCVT0J5OSKM4R1j/FTjoiSfhHBDBnQ+fMTTmeo6AYO80TIGij03PrjSRIFxNggJC1zGHhyMIUDCHa3N5w8cihKX6T6Lz1FPwPzU1mx0hoa+APFknaVup4HEjmuC27YVHHxdpYRQvfhZzhNzo5v8DxS1/0PT4nD1I5ixyfbSk= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <444823.98628.qm@web26210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <444823.98628.qm@web26210.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <83732B81-98A9-49FE-B581-593D32E33080@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: mp3 clip posted Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 19:10:04 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 18:10:15 +0000 (UTC) On 6 mar 2007, at 18.41, rune fagereng wrote: > I thought you played sax - this sounds like a > guitar-hero.. > It was guitar ? > > Nice ! Yes, I play sax but guitar is my premier instrument. However this looping jam was played with the EWI through a guitar rig. I spent some time setting up my EWI to get close to the floating vibrato machinery feel of my Stratocaster - i.e. that you can bend notes both upwards and downwards, and also that a wide vibrato goes both over and under the correct pitch (where you tend to land it when stopping the vibrato). I think the "guitarishness" comes from how I'm starting the notes that are going to slide into other notes. When you have learned guitar as the first instrument you tend to do those slides at certain points in the scales and it spills over into other instruments you play. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 18:33:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 203B93BF24; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 18:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAHlC7UXUSnIwk2dsb2JhbACPMQEBAQEHDg0dmhc Message-ID: <45EDB1C1.1070706@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 18:24:01 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Zipper , an example (software testing) References: <20070221165352.13106.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45DC96FE.7070702@tiscali.co.uk> <45E3FB79.2060905@addcom.de> <45EC9C86.2020706@addcom.de> <1173136695.45eca537e9ca6@webmail.musetrap.com> <45ED2FAD.7000309@tiscali.co.uk> <45ED8D47.4070501@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 18:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Charles Zwicky wrote: >> Actually I don't think Roland have a lot of bugs in their gear. >> >> I'd be fairly certain they have guys to systematically test their >> products. >> ( but who wouldn't conceive what LDers would want to do with it) > > > But the major complaints so far with the RC-50 have to to with audio > interruptions, either from recording or switching loops. How is it that > the Lexicon Jamman has no such issues and the RC-50 does? oh, there's issues with the JamMan. Just not quite so obvious as the RC-50 blank spaces. Bob Sellon (designer) uses the JamMan for his music. > Too many > features and not enough DSP / memory to go around. Probably they wrote the code without thinking seamless playback was an issue. Then it would be a big expensive re-write to fix it. > Is this a bug? The > official reply is "If you don't like it, don't use that feature". > Defining a 'bug' is tricky. I think it would be pushing it to describe the RC-50 gap as a feature. ( Although I've heard speculation along those lines) . > Sometimes a 'bug' is let through because > it's not considered a problem in normal use. On the other hand... The EH > 16 second delay has a time stretch feature. It's really wacky and can be > used with the tempo slider in real time to add odd textures to the loop. > The designer excluded this feature on the 2880 because he didn't like > the sound. In one sense this 'feature' was a 'bug' and 'fixed' in the > next product. More complicated with the EDP. In loop3 there were bugs that users loved, so they became features in Loop4. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 20:08:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 09BBF3BF1E; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:08:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20650A5C-83B4-4AD7-9B8E-D3763B478F71@bernhardwagner.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers From: Bernhard Wagner LD Subject: New D.Torn project "prezens" Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:08:37 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:08:42 +0000 (UTC) New D.Torn project "prezens" was pointed out by lealoop (http:// www.myspace.com/lealoop): http://www.myspace.com/prezens Bernhard From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 20:23:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0BDA13BF20; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:23:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <20650A5C-83B4-4AD7-9B8E-D3763B478F71@bernhardwagner.net> References: <20650A5C-83B4-4AD7-9B8E-D3763B478F71@bernhardwagner.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--515614815 Message-Id: <95398eaadac3c00ab4b22f6c7761cf90@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: New D.Torn project "prezens" Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 12:23:17 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:23:27 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2--515614815 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed VERY VERY VERY cool richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 6-Mar-07, at 12:08 PM, Bernhard Wagner LD wrote: > > New D.Torn project "prezens" was pointed out by lealoop > (http://www.myspace.com/lealoop): > > http://www.myspace.com/prezens > > Bernhard > --Apple-Mail-2--515614815 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII VERY VERY VERY cool Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 6-Mar-07, at 12:08 PM, Bernhard Wagner LD wrote: New D.Torn project "prezens" was pointed out by lealoop (http://www.myspace.com/lealoop): http://www.myspace.com/prezens Bernhard --Apple-Mail-2--515614815-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 20:28:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C66B63BF1E; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:28:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <20650A5C-83B4-4AD7-9B8E-D3763B478F71@bernhardwagner.net> References: <20650A5C-83B4-4AD7-9B8E-D3763B478F71@bernhardwagner.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3--515341381 Message-Id: <90dc26233b5be7750540c1f2718e1849@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: New D.Torn project "prezens" Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 12:27:50 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: <85asLC.A.EqH.f7c7FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:28:16 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3--515341381 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Liked Lealoop's stuff too. I'm wondering if that's a MIDI guitar??? richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 6-Mar-07, at 12:08 PM, Bernhard Wagner LD wrote: > > New D.Torn project "prezens" was pointed out by lealoop > (http://www.myspace.com/lealoop): > > http://www.myspace.com/prezens > > Bernhard > --Apple-Mail-3--515341381 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Liked Lealoop's stuff too. I'm wondering if that's a MIDI guitar??? Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 6-Mar-07, at 12:08 PM, Bernhard Wagner LD wrote: New D.Torn project "prezens" was pointed out by lealoop (http://www.myspace.com/lealoop): http://www.myspace.com/prezens Bernhard --Apple-Mail-3--515341381-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 20:28:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 742823BF28; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:28:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=PqrkPf36UOfulyyQWs6qcWDCDKB1TMNlO2Usr9IMG3FCgdl+iCdxojYe/xVM0ZAMC/nPmQ1BSKCHDZCGDtXSW+eN4Nd73GvJ5uSE3EDBBPGC7ZDniabRdmN/s0py04v4rCwy2HuzEHArOCb61UMYePWlTvU4gv6CTA39omxuhEE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=i3ODhX9UavIfZLMo50zv2wzEpVQz6c1e161dqqeOY6vXvmUxmZjflNmRV8pL0ekDudY2KyTIi4qrr5P907D0dyA0vRj2o1qHELbZMYBkRGbXkPx4w/M/hcoutOnbDzMIublbGQHQ2UawHPD0Z90JjmMhVMnt8ilr6TkBFijomoQ= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20650A5C-83B4-4AD7-9B8E-D3763B478F71@bernhardwagner.net> References: <20650A5C-83B4-4AD7-9B8E-D3763B478F71@bernhardwagner.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <18E0CF04-A344-4A63-9A02-7847E30DE1AF@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: New D.Torn project "prezens" Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:28:32 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <3InLND.A.7wH.17c7FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:28:37 +0000 (UTC) On 6 mar 2007, at 21.08, Bernhard Wagner LD wrote: > New D.Torn project "prezens" was pointed out by lealoop (http:// > www.myspace.com/lealoop): > http://www.myspace.com/prezens > Bernhard Thanks, Bernhard! Fascinating audio clips. I want to hear more! Need to look for the record. And what a great bio written by Bradley Bambarger. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 20:52:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C86FE3BF01; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:52:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ODAXAhtmJsfoXjVErbcY/SjnMCeFt29ttIi0pMxx3dS2q0HIuqbuUNP28kHEb5fUd7PTHtRRdSE2ehOfN1dNQVyBCWGm9w1et7sYpKIrg4kW0OcfBRnFnj3emeOsNoZuvAaBOuRncZvp04v3G1pDr4tCdM+Tcd3sTGwSXlIisgE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=V1iYJI0dvQR2vt4TqQf/QyHkcuXNK59q3FNpltbG79jTTgHwE90qgar79brWGvFG8TgUGiXDismQAjMRyqtde+6ziDLnsFIf0K09mbNT5ArON2WCy/BRx9/lELBPNZn/Q+lUYPkUdFSPAfA3WAI+8ZS+HEgrisfldFU2gbguixA= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <90dc26233b5be7750540c1f2718e1849@glasswing.com> References: <20650A5C-83B4-4AD7-9B8E-D3763B478F71@bernhardwagner.net> <90dc26233b5be7750540c1f2718e1849@glasswing.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <10767DAB-31D7-434B-B053-AFB8B0F8577A@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: New D.Torn project "prezens" Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:52:05 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 20:52:11 +0000 (UTC) On 6 mar 2007, at 21.27, Richard Sales wrote: > Liked Lealoop's stuff too. I'm wondering if that's a MIDI guitar??? Shall we guess? I put mine on "a normal electric guitar played through an Eclipse" (or maybe an Orville?). Fantastic volume fade playing whatever he uses for the sound shaping. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 21:03:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7544B3BF1B; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:03:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <10767DAB-31D7-434B-B053-AFB8B0F8577A@gmail.com> References: <20650A5C-83B4-4AD7-9B8E-D3763B478F71@bernhardwagner.net> <90dc26233b5be7750540c1f2718e1849@glasswing.com> <10767DAB-31D7-434B-B053-AFB8B0F8577A@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 16:02:53 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: New D.Torn project "prezens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b57112007e21c753c3c5d5c37fd8201c3ea1d79a0a7d5037a8f68ff350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:03:26 +0000 (UTC) It's not a MIDI guitar, it's his latest favorite though I forget the maker (it's custom), and has 3 p-90s and a microphone built in. He used the mic to capture and manipulate the ensemble live into his PCM-42. >On 6 mar 2007, at 21.27, Richard Sales wrote: > >>Liked Lealoop's stuff too. I'm wondering if that's a MIDI guitar??? > > >Shall we guess? I put mine on "a normal electric guitar played >through an Eclipse" (or maybe an Orville?). Fantastic volume fade >playing whatever he uses for the sound shaping. > >Greetings from Sweden > >Per Boysen >www.boysen.se (Swedish) >www.looproom.com (international) >http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 21:13:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E8CCB3BF27; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:13:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <10767DAB-31D7-434B-B053-AFB8B0F8577A@gmail.com> References: <20650A5C-83B4-4AD7-9B8E-D3763B478F71@bernhardwagner.net> <90dc26233b5be7750540c1f2718e1849@glasswing.com> <10767DAB-31D7-434B-B053-AFB8B0F8577A@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5--512634575 Message-Id: <21b995ddbfc5ed9c789dbbf7e12e0a0c@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: New D.Torn project "prezens" Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 13:12:57 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:13:05 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5--512634575 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I think you're right Per. I went to Eventide's site and... sure enough - there was that sound! richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 6-Mar-07, at 12:52 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On 6 mar 2007, at 21.27, Richard Sales wrote: > >> Liked Lealoop's stuff too. I'm wondering if that's a MIDI guitar??? > > > Shall we guess? I put mine on "a normal electric guitar played through > an Eclipse" (or maybe an Orville?). Fantastic volume fade playing > whatever he uses for the sound shaping. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) > --Apple-Mail-5--512634575 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII I think you're right Per. I went to Eventide's site and... sure enough - there was that sound! Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 6-Mar-07, at 12:52 PM, Per Boysen wrote: On 6 mar 2007, at 21.27, Richard Sales wrote: Liked Lealoop's stuff too. I'm wondering if that's a MIDI guitar??? Shall we guess? I put mine on "a normal electric guitar played through an Eclipse" (or maybe an Orville?). Fantastic volume fade playing whatever he uses for the sound shaping. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) --Apple-Mail-5--512634575-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 21:17:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E13DE3BF27; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:17:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: <20650A5C-83B4-4AD7-9B8E-D3763B478F71@bernhardwagner.net> <90dc26233b5be7750540c1f2718e1849@glasswing.com> <10767DAB-31D7-434B-B053-AFB8B0F8577A@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-37--512387603 Message-Id: <37E05F91-2205-4170-9180-F4E616B842F5@fuse.net> From: monk Subject: Re: New D.Torn project "prezens" Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 16:17:04 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:17:13 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-37--512387603 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed it's a guitar made by Koll ( i think he's in portland.) it's a really nice guitar, i played when i was last in new york. On Mar 6, 2007, at 4:02 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > > It's not a MIDI guitar, it's his latest favorite though I forget > the maker (it's custom), and has 3 p-90s and a microphone built in. > He used the mic to capture and manipulate the ensemble live into > his PCM-42. > > >> On 6 mar 2007, at 21.27, Richard Sales wrote: >> >>> Liked Lealoop's stuff too. I'm wondering if that's a MIDI guitar??? >> >> >> Shall we guess? I put mine on "a normal electric guitar played >> through an Eclipse" (or maybe an Orville?). Fantastic volume fade >> playing whatever he uses for the sound shaping. >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >> www.looproom.com (international) >> http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) > > > -- > ... > http://www.zmix.net > ric hordinski www.richordinski.com www.myspace.com/richordinskimusic www.myspace.com/monasterystudio --Apple-Mail-37--512387603 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 it's a guitar made by Koll ( i = think he's in portland.) it's a really nice guitar, i played when i was = last in new york.=A0



    On Mar 6, = 2007, at 4:02 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote:


    It's not = a MIDI guitar, it's his latest favorite though I forget the maker (it's = custom), and has 3 p-90s and a microphone built in. He used the mic to = capture and manipulate the ensemble live into his PCM-42.


    On 6 mar 2007, at 21.27, Richard Sales = wrote:

    =
    Liked Lealoop's stuff = too.=A0 I'm wondering if = that's a MIDI guitar???


    Shall we guess? I put mine on "a = normal electric guitar played through an Eclipse" (or maybe an = Orville?). Fantastic volume fade playing whatever he uses for the sound = shaping.

    Greetings from Sweden

    Per = Boysen
    www.boysen.se = (Swedish)
    www.looproom.com = (international)
    http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest = music release)


    --=A0

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    ric = hordinski

    www.richordinski.com

    www.myspace.com/richordinskim= usic

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    = --Apple-Mail-37--512387603-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 21:18:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 078BC3BF32; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:18:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=B6E5wz+Fvc58yy6GWM/1SlaG15NWQVGdHszoqKa7wD/oFJWFgqAwyo9FqrAz+nn1uGQjqnuy6XCFnMu5MWBNf28Ky/u3vN35GMNYuGnP0z9dxTQwO6dUXBJHI1RNOBjwReQwbY96zANiMP7i12VmyjP24Q3frBfXRrS31i+oWe0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Vb+/ImzL26N1Xy3vX1+nXJ7SV2T/f051eQ9v/v0WLC0xIJUx4BXVL3WO/edYQQP7tY0IXhMMiL9MxkA8wl0s6FD3r5usV9iDIvvg3RRfdWkKxZvRyrDR2/Zcqn99sT/okxGHU/+Vai/+A2q8R0B1+U1FK8gd0ZPUOk55QiQiiRw= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <21b995ddbfc5ed9c789dbbf7e12e0a0c@glasswing.com> References: <20650A5C-83B4-4AD7-9B8E-D3763B478F71@bernhardwagner.net> <90dc26233b5be7750540c1f2718e1849@glasswing.com> <10767DAB-31D7-434B-B053-AFB8B0F8577A@gmail.com> <21b995ddbfc5ed9c789dbbf7e12e0a0c@glasswing.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <14C06EBD-6894-4574-A650-78960C6932EA@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: New D.Torn project "prezens" Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 22:17:58 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:18:03 +0000 (UTC) On 6 mar 2007, at 22.12, Richard Sales wrote: > I think you're right Per. I went to Eventide's site and... sure > enough - there was that sound! I once had access to an Eclipse for two months ;-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 21:22:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4B1E3BF0B; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:22:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45EDDB58.2030204@biink.com> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 16:21:28 -0500 From: David Beardsley Reply-To: db@biink.com Organization: Biink & SSI User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New D.Torn project "prezens" References: <20650A5C-83B4-4AD7-9B8E-D3763B478F71@bernhardwagner.net> <90dc26233b5be7750540c1f2718e1849@glasswing.com> <10767DAB-31D7-434B-B053-AFB8B0F8577A@gmail.com> <21b995ddbfc5ed9c789dbbf7e12e0a0c@glasswing.com> <14C06EBD-6894-4574-A650-78960C6932EA@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <14C06EBD-6894-4574-A650-78960C6932EA@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:22:08 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > On 6 mar 2007, at 22.12, Richard Sales wrote: > >> I think you're right Per. I went to Eventide's site and... sure >> enough - there was that sound! > > > > I once had access to an Eclipse for two months ;-)) I saw an eclipse the other night. -- * David Beardsley * microtonal guitar * http://biink.com/db From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 21:53:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 20E773BF1B; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:53:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=I1EANUzt5yhkSrhWhREaBozYgXDC23ZbAOkzrbqBM01CPvrQsNSgCL6ZLpFlsUfVJVR6CKD+on6U1IvbCZ12Ewew/ryGCup5Eppcpmp2kvVZ73CQKPIUnJbfKUWAACdRdMhT9hnFyBRF3Ybncd5x4wQE8gp9BwtOJozlSettbkU=; X-YMail-OSG: cqr4bN0VM1lv6wNYktYQpiyUOljTKpcK70uiBh9Jv_dtD.2z_TgwpySbhNl_y4nZIdBwJ6HspAXyU_FoqbHpn1MBNj5lUkLHehP6DxLaOgFnl9ntOmH8W3k_QRhFYgV15KsUI5f.85FLSw-- Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 13:53:11 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: New D.Torn project "prezens" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <882389.98832.qm@web43141.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0isT_B.A.10F.ILe7FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 21:53:13 +0000 (UTC) Does 'his latest favorite' refer to Leander or to dt? If it's Leander, it's "a guitar, efx and two loop machines." (Not sure what type, though; he used to have a tele in his MySpace pic.) As for dt, he's been using his Kolls a lot lately, although he also used a Tyler Classic on Prezens. (Despite the misleading name, it's a strat-type, not a classical...) -t- --- Charles Zwicky wrote: > > It's not a MIDI guitar, it's his latest favorite > though I forget the > maker (it's custom), and has 3 p-90s and a > microphone built in. He > used the mic to capture and manipulate the ensemble > live into his > PCM-42. > > > >On 6 mar 2007, at 21.27, Richard Sales wrote: > > > >>Liked Lealoop's stuff too. I'm wondering if > that's a MIDI guitar??? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 22:07:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7AB833BF23; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 22:07:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=fY66BlYMfscrk/GNrKraUXrt5ODfWyrKrupxgLBay6OI7Sfni9r+ztqeHL5+EBEG15/rPbkBSDTp+HnLrhwjy3lRbmBNCGzE8hagDVJrogU/euMWhFBqPLz1RrV2pWmp0/oEolM4/E/xvceiY+RQAQ42PxYdXJzd+Bteql/9OH8=; X-YMail-OSG: eCA3M3YVM1k7YQzwhztXoTF0.Q32plF73l0y6PA1xAlcHqv3LGKHPA4TitYG5Osn5Uy7oFZ40uhlgaT8w9xcZIwDn2s6uc3bM3aR4Pe9iwmf_wzIv5WycpZY_darw.xc9.aplJhN0u97lRqFGmeiAL77GytUpjk- Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 23:07:14 +0100 (CET) From: rune fagereng Subject: Vs: Re: New D.Torn project "prezens" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <927762.17407.qm@web26211.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0O3TFB.A.GzG.UYe7FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 22:07:16 +0000 (UTC) > > Per Boysen wrote: > > > On 6 mar 2007, at 22.12, Richard Sales wrote: > > > >> I think you're right Per. I went to Eventide's > site and... sure > >> enough - there was that sound! > > > > > > > > I once had access to an Eclipse for two months > ;-)) > > > > I saw an eclipse the other night. I took a picture of Aarsets Eclipse once. :) And after that - I`ve been looking at many on ebay. Maybe some day... Rune F. > > > -- > * David Beardsley > * microtonal guitar > * http://biink.com/db > > > www.runefagereng.com Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Mob: 917 95 867 _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 22:53:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68B8E3BF26; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 22:53:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45EDF100.40906@addcom.de> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 23:53:52 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Macintosh/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Playing at Home v. Playing Live References: <451297.5451.qm@web81313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <451297.5451.qm@web81313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3aqfVC.A.rqB.DEf7FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 22:53:55 +0000 (UTC) mark sottilaro schrieb: Wee! Improvising is the best! Double WheeWhee... > A few times a year I say this and usually get no > responses, but here goes. Anyone in the SF Bay Area > want to come over for some loop'n? Let me know. Too bad, I'm on the other side of the ocean... What about Ile de France?... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 22:54:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E56463BF23; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 22:54:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45EDF10C.5030309@addcom.de> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 23:54:04 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Macintosh/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: vst [audio >> mid] References: <45EBF140.7090601@addcom.de> <03678B57-8F41-40C0-BA98-F108D488A168@gmail.com> <578CC3C1-0C85-41FD-BF04-43B8FCF631E5@bernhardwagner.net> In-Reply-To: <578CC3C1-0C85-41FD-BF04-43B8FCF631E5@bernhardwagner.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 22:54:06 +0000 (UTC) Bernhard Wagner LD schrieb: > There's also a percussion follower (~bonk) > Both apparently come with source code... Do you have a link to the source of fiddle~ and bonk~? I couldn't find it as such, might be inside all of the Pd sources... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 22:54:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83E4A3BF2B; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 22:54:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45EDF123.2050407@addcom.de> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 23:54:27 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Macintosh/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Zipper Noise, an example References: <20070221165352.13106.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45DC96FE.7070702@tiscali.co.uk> <45E3FB79.2060905@addcom.de> <45EC9C86.2020706@addcom.de> <51A6A949-EFA3-486C-95F8-66AAC3736D5F@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <51A6A949-EFA3-486C-95F8-66AAC3736D5F@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 22:54:29 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen schrieb: > Smothing was the first fix I tried with the FireworX, but it did not > change the noise. I doubt that you can set smoothing in the fireworx, because that's something which has to be done internally, it will create the missing inbetween values for the volume. As Midi values will be at least 0.6 ms appart you'd have to do this always. > Anyway, I did a check on what you said about overtone/treble rich > sounds. But there is no difference to the noise added by moving the > pedal when I feed the box low notes with no treble and when I feed it > high and sparkly stuff. They don't get masked? Maybe its noise on the pedal itself, kind of jittering while moving. A crackling sensor would create jumping values. Did you try with a different Pedal? > Applications I have been using a lot and where I have never noticed any > such zipper noise when controlling a continuous parameter with a MIDI > CC# are Logic and Numerology. Logic has a fader resolution far higher > than the 128 steps of MIDI and Numerology has a built-in "scaling" (i.e. > what you call "smoothing"). I refer to smoothing as a ramp of maybe 10 or 20 ms in audiorate (much faster than Midi ;-) creating 44/88 values between two Midivalues. This would also smooth out sudden jumps caused by a crackling Pedal... I bet Logic is using this. They need for other reasons some smoothing algorithms, to limit the number of events they want to store into a track. (You should be able to switch this off though...) Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 22:55:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 045663BF32; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 22:55:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45EDF175.5030509@addcom.de> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 23:55:49 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Macintosh/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: MIDI CC Resolution References: <20070217230220.2080E38102@astra.telenet-ops.be> <45DC37F1.8010700@addcom.de> <1172077856.45dc7d2014846@webmail.musetrap.com> <1173088303.45ebe82f7d3a8@webmail.m3ch.net> <1173120258.45ec6502aa013@webmail.musetrap.com> <1173188177.45ed6e51ae417@webmail.m3ch.net> In-Reply-To: <1173188177.45ed6e51ae417@webmail.m3ch.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 22:55:51 +0000 (UTC) Mech schrieb: > Hey, thanks for the verification that I'd read the spec correctly. But I'd say, > given the current state of controllers out there, that the original solution > you hit upon is the most compatible, since most pedals can be set to manipulate > Pitch Wheel. I'd wonder if there are any pedals other than the ones that we've > mentioned that will even merely transmit proper MSB/LSB Mod Wheel, rather than > dumbing it down to MSB only. If you can set it to pitch wheel does not mean at all it will transmit a resolution of 14-bit, even pitch wheels in keyboards do it rarely. Hook up a midi monitor and watch the values... In keyboards you would need the resolution if you set the wheel range of the synth to octaves and don't want jumps in the pitch. Most keyboard players aren't even aware that you can set it differently and won't recognize the poor resolution, as they move the pitch only a second up or down... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 6 23:06:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1622C3BF2E; Tue, 6 Mar 2007 23:06:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <45EDF10C.5030309@addcom.de> References: <45EBF140.7090601@addcom.de> <03678B57-8F41-40C0-BA98-F108D488A168@gmail.com> <578CC3C1-0C85-41FD-BF04-43B8FCF631E5@bernhardwagner.net> <45EDF10C.5030309@addcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bernhard Wagner LD Subject: Re: vst [audio >> mid] Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 00:06:24 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 23:06:30 +0000 (UTC) http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/~tapel/bonk1.3Mach-O.zip contains a folder source, containing bonk~.c The link is on the page: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~tapel/software.html named "bonk~ version 1.3 for Macintosh Max/MSP OS X Mach-O Universal Binary with source." I guess the same applies for fiddle~. Bernhard On 06.03.2007, at 23:54, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Do you have a link to the source of fiddle~ and bonk~? I couldn't > find it as such, might be inside all of the Pd sources... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 00:09:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7276F3BF21; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 00:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=RBtn1/Hp+9iCdCJE2V2RhjgWqN+VkOW+W4xkQH6XanU2hd5Mq5IbDaEtsqY58L+Irsa9Yq0NBVb79OqeRyiQH7Yzy/j9X0lZxYzgv4fsjIfuhJ3jPD1I+JsMfmrvt35vrajwtYWkV/CfiZLeSQFAVoF8PxrpTV+A30cWwEmXN3Q=; X-YMail-OSG: 941QNNEVM1mhUxnm.hfzDdZRKHmwhvFggB45OSrPmogyot7mLEaM1Z7eHJFaXy9SyaLRzVGMRnADBgAD.Vm7rU4TrqaGegO.YJRY90vOCfcC7LULx43yqxpgFUjpxP73XFvKNPoANiGZr7L4Fvl40CZz_A-- Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 16:09:56 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: Re: New D.Torn project "prezens" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <95398eaadac3c00ab4b22f6c7761cf90@glasswing.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <878900.17683.qm@web32715.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 00:09:58 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, This is VERY off topic, but my family lives just south of alderwood B.C. i've beenwanting to go to Sproat lake and see the giant martin airplane. Id there a public day? I've heard that they let the public come and go in for a tour of the plane.i've also heard that they take it on routine maintenance flights and you can buy a ride. Do you knowanything aboutthis/ Any info would be GREATLY appreciated. Whereabouts on the island do you live? I remember watching The Beachcombers years ago. Every week old Relic (sp.?) would get his due. Quite a show. Since moving t othe east side of the state I don't get my weekly Red Green fix any more. 6 years of withdrawal. Awful. Rig --- Richard Sales wrote: > VERY VERY VERY cool > richard sales > glassWing farm and studio > vancouver island, b.c. > 800.545.6846 > 250.752.4816 > www.glassWing.com > www.richardsales.com > www.hayleysales.com > www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com > On 6-Mar-07, at 12:08 PM, Bernhard Wagner LD wrote: > > > > > New D.Torn project "prezens" was pointed out by > lealoop > > (http://www.myspace.com/lealoop): > > > > http://www.myspace.com/prezens > > > > Bernhard > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 00:10:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0D0A33BF2D; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 00:10:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <380-220073370104394@M2W027.mail2web.com> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: qua@oregon.com X-Originating-IP: 134.134.136.2 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "qua@oregon.com" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 19:10:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: New D.Torn project prezens Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 00:10:10 +0000 (UTC) Koll is a great luthier=2E He did the custom inlay work on my Stick=2E He= 's a great guy, too ! -Qua Original Message: ----------------- From: Tim Nelson psychle62@yahoo=2Ecom Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 13:53:11 -0800 (PST) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight=2Ecom Subject: Re: New D=2ETorn project "prezens" Does 'his latest favorite' refer to Leander or to dt=3F If it's Leander, it's "a guitar, efx and two loop machines=2E" (Not sure what type, though; he used to have a tele in his MySpace pic=2E) As for dt, he's been using his Kolls a lot lately, although he also used a Tyler Classic on Prezens=2E (Despite the misleading name, it's a strat-type, not a classical=2E=2E=2E) -t- --- Charles Zwicky wrote: >=20 > It's not a MIDI guitar, it's his latest favorite > though I forget the=20 > maker (it's custom), and has 3 p-90s and a > microphone built in=2E He=20 > used the mic to capture and manipulate the ensemble > live into his=20 > PCM-42=2E >=20 >=20 > >On 6 mar 2007, at 21=2E27, Richard Sales wrote: > > > >>Liked Lealoop's stuff too=2E I'm wondering if > that's a MIDI guitar=3F=3F=3F =20 =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F= =5F =5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F=5F Don't pick lemons=2E See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos=2E http://autos=2Eyahoo=2Ecom/new=5Fcars=2Ehtml=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web=2Ecom =96 Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Micro= soft=AE Exchange - http://link=2Email2web=2Ecom/Personal/EnhancedEmail From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 00:10:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3F513BF2B; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 00:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <882389.98832.qm@web43141.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <882389.98832.qm@web43141.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 19:09:19 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: New D.Torn project "prezens" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b57112007e21c753c3c5d5cc39f071271bdfcd102154f5b51cda4d9350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 00:10:25 +0000 (UTC) >Does 'his latest favorite' refer to Leander or to dt? I was referring to David's latest favorite being that guitar. He's got quite a few hat he'll travel with, his previous favorite was the Tesla... -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 09:29:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F4D63BF19; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 09:29:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=XliLLDpAw8kf6EIg6LDCh4GeJxwM6+zmvGZ+KswC4o3dOzyrXllS0VN12ZFjB+L0a2rMTSNmw7m5vzlcH2TuqBHASFI/ZZTgpSKTJnbFrzu3Cesi+dG+U1Bt17JWVRTObUhzwt+zGWU+rvAdhO9UHFifUti/4d3ijey6zhfMOg0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=bF+9NdNiJ+JjhQqzsRZqJQ8LTwM5ifxkLn6ORN+1tAOrWmIjtPfk9Uy9LvxTGCrC+76tLOwACgkmnVD80sspvhxoPvg+fxO95v+fy7brq2T7KYR1vUeHWSCRO2IwJ0e2KFil/hC97Qa2/hd0WqY+IxYPyPItGMG4Czb63hgQolI= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45EDF100.40906@addcom.de> References: <451297.5451.qm@web81313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45EDF100.40906@addcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Playing at Home v. Playing Live Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:29:01 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 09:29:10 +0000 (UTC) > mark sottilaro schrieb: > Wee! Improvising is the best! > > Double WheeWhee... > >> A few times a year I say this and usually get no >> responses, but here goes. Anyone in the SF Bay Area >> want to come over for some loop'n? Let me know. On 6 mar 2007, at 23.53, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Too bad, I'm on the other side of the ocean... > What about Ile de France?... No, Stefan. It's Mark that is at the other side of the ocean ;-) Whenever you decide to cross over, Mark, please pop by Stockholm as well! Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 09:52:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0DD73BEF9; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 09:52:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=KMEkRYvs1iAYgEemPQdJcwGJAOcgVHjjhAkKMBR4LhBIC48snXrlWkYkcEnNui1WsIkyfG0BMBvIKt/5l2xRaHzRIXnmvxHo8uO6P7vusnn6X5OJoHOdsEIWWlPbmsI//gY5/Wam7pR0L90WHDcgRW7Vh6RdPkZLOQBTOvVaFPw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=PEioYlEpR1saPOPGf02CG4l/w0ZdQ46cT0rfIwsqK7bbToZh6aAHFQB6pzKGhPgwhvdNdbeZh+9cMk42BcImz7cmQ7B2DFbZYbvsm0kFpZPkkHz22pXXK0yby4Jy7aAyOmbETUYqxHxA+am3d9JWBtuA5RSEMGiKxSLcWTTbscw= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45EDF123.2050407@addcom.de> References: <20070221165352.13106.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45DC96FE.7070702@tiscali.co.uk> <45E3FB79.2060905@addcom.de> <45EC9C86.2020706@addcom.de> <51A6A949-EFA3-486C-95F8-66AAC3736D5F@gmail.com> <45EDF123.2050407@addcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Zipper Noise, an example Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:52:03 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 09:52:14 +0000 (UTC) On 6 mar 2007, at 23.54, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > I refer to smoothing as a ramp of maybe 10 or 20 ms in audiorate > (much faster than Midi ;-) creating 44/88 values between two > Midivalues. This would also smooth out sudden jumps caused by a > crackling Pedal... Ok, now I understand what you're talking about; an interpolation processing of the controller data. The "smoothing" in the FireworX I was referring to is rather an interpolation of the actual machines envelope for a given parameter change. > I bet Logic is using this. They need for other reasons some > smoothing algorithms, to limit the number of events they want to > store into a track. (You should be able to switch this off though...) To be specific, Logic uses a 14 bit resolution. That means 16384 available values for a parameter, as opposed to 128 values available in MIDI. This comes because Logic was not at first hand designed to be controlled by external MIDI but by dedicated control surface devices that use that higher resolution. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 13:11:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1734B3BF01; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 13:11:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <20070221165352.13106.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45DC96FE.7070702@tiscali.co.uk> <45E3FB79.2060905@addcom.de> <45EC9C86.2020706@addcom.de> <51A6A949-EFA3-486C-95F8-66AAC3736D5F@gmail.com> <45EDF123.2050407@addcom.de> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 07:59:53 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Zipper Noise, an example Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b57112007e21c753c3c5d5c81ddf9e9996ca09fba51dc8ea1eea069350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 13:11:58 +0000 (UTC) >> > >To be specific, Logic uses a 14 bit resolution. That means 16384 >available values for a parameter, as opposed to 128 values available >in MIDI. This comes because Logic was not at first hand designed to >be controlled by external MIDI but by dedicated control surface >devices that use that higher resolution. However, this is not why logic's automation is smooth. All logic automation is simply MIDI data. The volume faders are only quantized as 7 bits, if you 'view as number' rather than 'view as dB' you will see that the faders range from 0 to 127. Internally Logic uses an interpolation algo to smooth parameter changes. Many parameters in logic have only 127 steps available. As another example, consider a volume mute. This is only ONE step. If it is not smoothed there will certainly be a loud 'click' or 'pop' in the audio. -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 13:40:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A17FD3BF24; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 13:40:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=mzGJfwuXFD1anOsDAgvgKrNsJbpSrSnFJBVgHzz23Cqk2thfKnC024QN5VTRycx17OKRYkVZRctHeMpIQ8MuhYLfAEBARcSU58cnRcuRxNM5Da5ARq4olRsA4QEomdeDBkEPO2cDEHqsl4y/XiFaPJ9FYdZCP4NTwTIzCw+ZEcs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ACQ+jHzMr74c+UIWKHytgCBHubdRcQEeJaJfjpXLbx5l/BoREY3ocJwMADPDRtRgFtfCn6boeTlNzY29DoJYgCrckWvkAw3SnG4ErzV0LJ7u0489ZWsnFoD6BI474GjqfZQCos/E16Mb1WFsY4Dg98opfcRfqhLE7FEBSgzRk5k= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <20070221165352.13106.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45DC96FE.7070702@tiscali.co.uk> <45E3FB79.2060905@addcom.de> <45EC9C86.2020706@addcom.de> <51A6A949-EFA3-486C-95F8-66AAC3736D5F@gmail.com> <45EDF123.2050407@addcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Zipper Noise, an example Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 14:40:37 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 13:40:52 +0000 (UTC) >> To be specific, Logic uses a 14 bit resolution. That means 16384 >> available values for a parameter, as opposed to 128 values >> available in MIDI. This comes because Logic was not at first hand >> designed to be controlled by external MIDI but by dedicated >> control surface devices that use that higher resolution. On 7 mar 2007, at 13.59, Charles Zwicky wrote: > However, this is not why logic's automation is smooth. > All logic automation is simply MIDI data. I'm afraid you are misinformed on this. The internal data flow in Logic is handled by an application specific format. That's why you have to change any channel's automation functionality into "MIDI mode" to record MIDI for automation (other modes being Read, Touch, Latch and Write) I don't have time to make an experiment that proofs it but if it matters for you you might try something like writing track automation of a repeated sound (some loop) for a rather long period, let's say ten minutes. Graphically set the volume to increase or decrease very little over that time span. I suggest something like using the mouse to set the volume at the beginning and then increase it by the smallest optional number for the end. Bounce the resulting audio to disc as an audio file. Open that audio file in a sample editor and study the curve of the actual audio produced. I think this curve should give a true representation of the resolution of the automation. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 14:05:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70D3B3BF16; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 14:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <20070221165352.13106.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45DC96FE.7070702@tiscali.co.uk> <45E3FB79.2060905@addcom.de> <45EC9C86.2020706@addcom.de> <51A6A949-EFA3-486C-95F8-66AAC3736D5F@gmail.com> <45EDF123.2050407@addcom.de> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 09:05:17 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Zipper Noise, an example Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b57112007e21c753c3c5d5caf5209f5a549401a42883ffb9470f15a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 14:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Per, I am not misinformed, my friend. Your test proves that the automation data is interpolated. Nothing else. Logic has a preference setting for the automation interpolation. The default is something like 50ms I found that towards the end of a mix I was getting an "Error while synching Audio and Midi" warning even though I was using NO midi. Apple officially suggested that to fix the "Error while synching Audio and Midi" you need to turn off the "Sample accurate automation". Why? Because Logic automation is MIDI data. So says Apple. In fact the Mackie Logic control sends note on and note off data for the switches, and the faders are CC. Greetings from New York. -CZ > >>However, this is not why logic's automation is smooth. >>All logic automation is simply MIDI data. > >I'm afraid you are misinformed on this. The internal data flow in >Logic is handled by an application specific format. That's why you >have to change any channel's automation functionality into "MIDI >mode" to record MIDI for automation (other modes being Read, Touch, >Latch and Write) > >I don't have time to make an experiment that proofs it but if it >matters for you you might try something like writing track >automation of a repeated sound (some loop) for a rather long period, >let's say ten minutes. Graphically set the volume to increase or >decrease very little over that time span. I suggest something like >using the mouse to set the volume at the beginning and then increase >it by the smallest optional number for the end. Bounce the resulting >audio to disc as an audio file. Open that audio file in a sample >editor and study the curve of the actual audio produced. I think >this curve should give a true representation of the resolution of >the automation. > >Greetings from Sweden > >Per Boysen >www.boysen.se (Swedish) >www.looproom.com (international) >http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 15:15:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27C0E3BF0A; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45EED710.3070300@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 09:15:28 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Cassette looping video Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:15:34 +0000 (UTC) I've uploaded a short video of looping with my cassette four-track and dictaphone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm_rH7XceXo&eurl= I'm still figuring out video, this looked very sharp on my own computer, but on Youtube it has a bit of that rain-on-the-lens quality. I saved it as a .wmv at 640x480, which was recommended on a couple of sites, but it seems I could do better. What do other people use? Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 15:24:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 405223BF1D; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:24:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=K89FF3LjQ9P99dEmUWM7U0P9G2qPg9UmP4+Q/tiH2Sb1KqzVGWuLDdYWc02GUVMga0Ro0ZJ0dZXu3XXyWE9/1dn8bqZRxzx0X5xCfvD3+rZYC/3JIc2uQwsjHmizAgbsgR4IoICRBWkpT6GcxxXpfyEb9XGxi1EMQwqDjYAJ6ic=; X-YMail-OSG: .VPqUNoVM1m8_tkV_h5cvXfTatt6MoeaSsQ5MFyvRTYCL74wip_S0l9M_CuEBsEgndy0K2T4XZa7QF564DwaJx.Uf9JVXtd8_H0BFgPsjeb0dcCpdGwXsXiOqjG0a8XHr4N7dVXXk4uuVmPUHAMvpUw- Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:24:03 +0100 (CET) From: rune fagereng Subject: re: Cassette looping video To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <45EED710.3070300@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <586236.65679.qm@web26213.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:24:06 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! Very cool and artistic. Rune F. Norway --- Daryl Shawn skrev: > I've uploaded a short video of looping with my > cassette four-track and > dictaphone. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm_rH7XceXo&eurl= > > I'm still figuring out video, this looked very sharp > on my own computer, > but on Youtube it has a bit of that rain-on-the-lens > quality. I saved it > as a .wmv at 640x480, which was recommended on a > couple of sites, but it > seems I could do better. What do other people use? > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > > www.runefagereng.com Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Mob: 917 95 867 _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 15:39:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3FE33BF18; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:39:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=hvIfdaCh9khHMjRiB7j78imeNwvBEClAYHvjL7jK1/jmD2utSAUnNiG25at2ndvZBGooeytkFT+PsLrHw/8WgCNIYrtzNcVIFxh7Um2DBjw6U2dls5PsymCE8HQ9KJm2lC4f7pnseXDcjfKIwTVhrGz7JCPGOfXOsFW7sqqssa4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=pQ6cVkiAYWTkPu/mHIx7IqFE/eQoztn1qai29LDTjO2YPXsiFqpiMRKbnZ+uQWTFQXJRcBJbbT+s5g7zHagITy81fi+hreMHwWKCRWUkJMlaCHGd0lo2p58MTlwn2HWtRPAeiL041y9iFreNo/KGlbFKIxRPDV9DA9GxHsaif8E= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45EED710.3070300@mhorse.com> References: <45EED710.3070300@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <125D9D62-AB66-41D4-B86F-FAAF6ECD9E32@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Cassette looping video Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:39:04 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:39:16 +0000 (UTC) On 7 mar 2007, at 16.15, Daryl Shawn wrote: > I've uploaded a short video of looping with my cassette four-track > and dictaphone. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm_rH7XceXo&eurl= That was a cool setup! Those two machines with cables hanging all out... very nice! Would look good on some particular stages I recall ;-) Sounds interesting when you alter the tape speed. I also enjoyed Rune's video posted yesterday. What cameras are you guys using? DV or simple PC webcams? Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 15:46:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1F4F3BF1E; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:46:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45EEDE46.4010403@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 09:46:14 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Cassette looping video References: <45EED710.3070300@mhorse.com> <125D9D62-AB66-41D4-B86F-FAAF6ECD9E32@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <125D9D62-AB66-41D4-B86F-FAAF6ECD9E32@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:46:26 +0000 (UTC) thanks for the nice words, Rune and Per. I use a Canon Powershot A540, which is essentially a still camera that can take three minutes of video. I plan to get a small desktop tripod so I don't have to depend on my girlfriend's good graces as cameraperson. Those machines haven't made it onto any stage yet!! Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > I've uploaded a short video of looping with my cassette four-track and > dictaphone. >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm_rH7XceXo&eurl= > > That was a cool setup! Those two machines with cables hanging all > out... very nice! Would look good on some particular stages I recall > ;-) Sounds interesting when you alter the tape speed. > > I also enjoyed Rune's video posted yesterday. What cameras are you > guys using? DV or simple PC webcams? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 16:01:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE5013BEFC; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:01:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 17:01:20 +0100 From: aandreas@gmx.ch In-Reply-To: <45EED710.3070300@mhorse.com> Message-ID: <20070307160120.291430@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <45EED710.3070300@mhorse.com> Subject: Re: Cassette looping video To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #16615515 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/QrNZJOtPQSI2JbUEXwT+T87e4cdJC6H5ByIu6i0 jzbA2jI6A+DdolzRXmdlBnND9K0IhaclTWCA== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:01:22 +0000 (UTC) coool! i like it. so youre using a prepared endless-loop cassette, i guess? -a -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Datum: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 09:15:28 -0600 Von: Daryl Shawn An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: Betreff: Cassette looping video > I've uploaded a short video of looping with my cassette four-track and > dictaphone. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm_rH7XceXo&eurl= > > I'm still figuring out video, this looked very sharp on my own computer, > but on Youtube it has a bit of that rain-on-the-lens quality. I saved it > as a .wmv at 640x480, which was recommended on a couple of sites, but it > seems I could do better. What do other people use? > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 16:11:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F05AD3BF1D; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:11:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45EEE3FF.3030006@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 10:10:39 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Cassette looping video References: <45EED710.3070300@mhorse.com> <20070307160120.291430@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <20070307160120.291430@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:11:03 +0000 (UTC) thanks, andreas. Yes, I'm using a homemade loop cassette in the four-track, and a standard microcassette in the dictating machine. It's possible to buy pre-made loop tapes (used in the old-style answering machines), but they don't allow you to flip the tape over for reverse effects. I wrote an article about my process for LD some time ago, I need to update with pictures and samples but I'll pimp it again here: http://www.loopers-delight.com/tips/multitrack.html Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > coool! > i like it. > so youre using a prepared endless-loop cassette, i guess? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 16:25:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 369063BF18; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:25:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1072118073.1173284740571.JavaMail.root@fepweb06> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 8:25:40 -0800 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mp3 clip posted Cc: Per Boysen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 66.169.252.252 by mail.charter.net; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:25:40 -0500 X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 16:25:48 +0000 (UTC) Per, I have enjoyed both this MP3 "Aggressive Basket Case" and the other one=20 "City Seventeen" you posted the other day as much as anything I've heard=20 on LD for a long while. Right now I think I'' give another listen to your "= Art=20 of Leadership" and "Organizational Culture Loops" MP3s I've also got.=20 That guitar trick with the EWI sounds amazing. Jeff Beck would be proud Great stuff.=20 -- tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?p= layListId=3D6378076=20 http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ---- Per Boysen wrote:=20 > Humbly posting a clip of todays live looping practice, if anyone =20 > cares to listen: > http://www.looproom.com/audio/abc.mp3 >=20 > per >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 17:29:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 491A63BF0A; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:29:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Ut1/tp5gLH+3I2WCawadsC3okJcJexWpwSLYtCKln4XlW07RkmOD1vNq4NYWmJCrCOqhLSSzKzKOZN1Ztsc+N+ltXi1ZSI+pYxMd1vU+OTyOl+SHdrXkn4mFBFtyyyftHM8ynHb9VldiTNauAH+QXuj+0E7mZBvc+hNZ2iiZa2M=; X-YMail-OSG: PzsrQbgVM1lNu1jhYgE9evWqGQjhqk7QFg8jqycsVCJi58w1r2SiI8ILlvp931Eqc1iesZQy6lghUnnk.oK_XuDZpt_H8J0O0ZMevyCh7RdPNDjz7qp1HbthRZLLLs1s Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 09:29:52 -0800 (PST) From: DrXparaMental Subject: I seek help/most believe I am beyond (loop related) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-228471380-1173288592=:1317" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <994052.1317.qm@web59001.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:29:54 +0000 (UTC) --0-228471380-1173288592=:1317 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Howdy New here/been playing crazy stuff on the electric bass for about 30 years/grateful to be here. After using hard floor controlled phrase samplers for the last 10 years or so, I have been attempting to move into the 21st via a soft flying saucer. Only problem, forget folding space and all that jazz. I might as well be folding dinner napkins cause me auto pilot's dial is currently set to ignoramus. My hope is to become adept and much less inept via my understanding of the midi controlled soft universe. Currently I am using Ableton's LIVE 5.2.2 & Stylus RMX. Are there other PC soft loop programs that are recommended "here"? My objectives are live performance oriented. The hardware I am hoping to incorporate into these performances are Bass/V Bass/Korg MS2000B/Boss RC-50/Laptop/Motu Traveler/Axiom 49 controller & midi foot controller/16 channel mixer. No matter what my chops are like, I FULLY realize I know NOT. I have been just trying to "put it together" With your help, maybe I can... Thanks, DrXPM --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. --0-228471380-1173288592=:1317 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    Howdy
    New here/been playing crazy stuff on the electric bass for about 30 years/grateful to be here.
     
    After using hard floor controlled phrase samplers for the last 10 years or so, I have been attempting to move into the 21st via a soft flying saucer. Only problem, forget folding space and all that jazz. I might as well be folding dinner napkins cause me auto pilot's dial is currently set to ignoramus. My hope is to become adept and much less inept via my understanding of the midi controlled soft universe.
     
    Currently I am using Ableton's LIVE 5.2.2 & Stylus RMX. Are there other PC soft loop programs that are recommended "here"?
     
    My objectives are live performance oriented. The hardware I am hoping to incorporate into these performances are Bass/V Bass/Korg MS2000B/Boss RC-50/Laptop/Motu Traveler/Axiom 49 controller & midi foot controller/16 channel mixer.  
     
    No matter what my chops are like, I FULLY realize I know NOT. I have been just trying to "put it together" With your help, maybe I can...
     
    <help>
     
    Thanks,
    DrXPM

    Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and
    always stay connected to friends. --0-228471380-1173288592=:1317-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 17:37:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AFDE63BF1E; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:37:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: e1hhPusVM1khxt.VUgeVYFUPL4oJO7CAXeK5hBJdAZyYO0V2JZP.EsnrdsnJgOPSdKK_ZtEEqCYsyT5Jf_Y.t75PWoZC387ipWhMXNL2SlB0N8hP.UUjj5IdORXqpemLW896GcLRK5Uf23bPd2vYJMr5zQ-- Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <994052.1317.qm@web59001.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <994052.1317.qm@web59001.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--439194052 Message-Id: <2DFAB002-41BD-4009-8CF1-7A438E221E97@infinivert.com> From: Josh Carroll Subject: Re: I seek help/most believe I am beyond (loop related) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:36:57 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:37:02 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--439194052 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed PC or Mac? On Mar 7, 2007, at 11:29 AM, DrXparaMental wrote: > Howdy > New here/been playing crazy stuff on the electric bass for about 30 > years/grateful to be here. > > After using hard floor controlled phrase samplers for the last 10 > years or so, I have been attempting to move into the 21st via a > soft flying saucer. Only problem, forget folding space and all that > jazz. I might as well be folding dinner napkins cause me auto > pilot's dial is currently set to ignoramus. My hope is to become > adept and much less inept via my understanding of the midi > controlled soft universe. > > Currently I am using Ableton's LIVE 5.2.2 & Stylus RMX. Are there > other PC soft loop programs that are recommended "here"? > > My objectives are live performance oriented. The hardware I am > hoping to incorporate into these performances are Bass/V Bass/Korg > MS2000B/Boss RC-50/Laptop/Motu Traveler/Axiom 49 controller & midi > foot controller/16 channel mixer. > > No matter what my chops are like, I FULLY realize I know NOT. I > have been just trying to "put it together" With your help, maybe I > can... > > > > Thanks, > DrXPM > > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and > always stay connected to friends. --Apple-Mail-1--439194052 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 PC or Mac?


    On Mar 7, = 2007, at 11:29 AM, DrXparaMental wrote:

    Howdy
    New here/been playing crazy stuff = on the electric bass for about 30 years/grateful to be here.
    =
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    After using=A0hard floor controlled phrase samplers = for the last 10 years or so, I have been attempting to move into the = 21st via=A0a soft flying saucer. Only problem, forget folding space and = all that jazz. I might as well be folding dinner napkins cause me auto = pilot's dial is=A0currently=A0set to=A0ignoramus. My hope is to become = adept and much less inept=A0via=A0my understanding of the=A0midi = controlled soft universe.
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    Currently I am = using Ableton's LIVE 5.2.2 & Stylus RMX. Are there other=A0PC soft = loop programs=A0that are=A0recommended "here"?
    =A0
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    My objectives are live performance oriented. The hardware I am = hoping to incorporate into these performances are Bass/V Bass/Korg = MS2000B/Boss RC-50/Laptop/Motu Traveler/Axiom 49 controller & midi = foot controller/16 channel mixer. =A0
    =A0
    No = matter what my chops are like, I FULLY realize I know NOT. I have been = just trying to "put it together" With your help, maybe I can...
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    =A0
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    Thanks,
    DrXPM

    Don't be flakey. = = Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and
    = always stay connected to = friends.

    = --Apple-Mail-1--439194052-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 17:53:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 989993BF22; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:53:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Yfd6noQh9J6Ns2skl9bv1DOj99EdhhithvQ5oo3MQiqdrB2oIvZKIi+zAmy1gv1RsidHigmC6hZJmQniKM/FBYW9n9+duLS6OrlwoXJxRwm5rraQgSX2UGTgVxs2sDwKfZgl3OpyQ4zBkbnfOE4Z2DKlePOMRIC9DM5QFb7KCF0=; X-YMail-OSG: 9gHLf_YVM1nRsMOSoMA8fw3FFoF4IISJ3nmUpfjWyIQvIgXC8Ne2jMlhp05HajuP5Q-- Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 09:53:40 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Kupferschmid Subject: Re: mp3 clip posted To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <913773.17519.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:53:42 +0000 (UTC) Dude, is that guitar or synth? I like some of those growling sounds, how do you do that? --- Per Boysen wrote: > Humbly posting a clip of todays live looping > practice, if anyone > cares to listen: > http://www.looproom.com/audio/abc.mp3 > > per > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 18:14:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6870E3BEE7; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 18:14:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 13:13:44 -0500 (EST) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: I seek help/most believe I am beyond (loop related) In-Reply-To: <994052.1317.qm@web59001.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <994052.1317.qm@web59001.mail.re1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 18:14:50 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, 7 Mar 2007, DrXparaMental wrote: > Howdy > New here/been playing crazy stuff on the electric bass for about 30 years/grateful to be here. Nice to have you here. Got anything online that we might hear? > My objectives are live performance oriented. The hardware I am hoping > to incorporate into these performances are Bass/V Bass/Korg MS2000B/Boss > RC-50/Laptop/Motu Traveler/Axiom 49 controller & midi foot controller/16 > channel mixer. Memo to self: use my own V-Bass more often. Thanks for the reminder. best, Steve B Subscape Annex http://www.subscapeannex.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 19:28:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1AEA03BEFA; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 19:28:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <68535C90-E8A5-4E59-9EA8-492624AF121D@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Zoe Keating Subject: borrow/rent a Repeater in LA or SF this weekend? Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 11:27:52 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Server-Quench: f23d1f13-cce1-11db-8cc9-001185d377ca X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZeQQAe DQsWCyJDRAw5JxtD RxQEKB1+J10RWB5K d2pXKltcMEE0QVZe QzNJGEkABQEoDjsx dVkOMEtdZVUzDkd1 UkhJRUJTHQ9qBhYE AlAYVQdzfw1Yen1x e0dlX29ZWUZ/akYz HkxTbw9HPD5gbmQe VkcWdgFXcE0cfBwR awZ+V25eMjAGe3th EwV2bzs6bHAHcH0M ElwBdg1NSk8dFDkm XRcdWi8iG1FNTm0J IgQrI0IRBg4QNA0W GBMmQxojHVcOCgxF V15ADSxUIVVWL0VT X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:556/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 19:28:01 +0000 (UTC) Hi Loopers, One of my F***ING REPEATERS is on the blink, again. No input audio on front or back, no output audio to back or headphone out. Reloaded OS, but seems like a hardware issue. Is there anyone in the SF Bay Area or LA who can loan me one for this weekend?? In exchange, if you're in LA I'll get you in to my gig on March 10, which is at a Hollywood party at the Henry Fonda Theater. Cheapest tickets are normally 150 clams and you might get to hobnob with George Clooney and lord knows who else. (http:// www.lifethroughartfoundation.org/) Or, if you prefer cash, or if you're in the SF Bay Area, I'll rent it from you for a week for $100. As you can tell, I'm desperate. Please....anyone out there? Thank you very much!!! Zoe after this I'VE HAD IT. no more Repeaters. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 19:54:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3828B3BF0A; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 19:54:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <1072118073.1173284740571.JavaMail.root@fepweb06> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: mp3 clip posted Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:53:46 -0500 In-Reply-To: <1072118073.1173284740571.JavaMail.root@fepweb06> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 24019 Message-Id: <8C92F0973AAA66A-C98-323A@WEBMAIL-RE14.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 152.163.16.163 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 19:54:09 +0000 (UTC) muy koolisto!.....what great sound, loverly.....thnax per!.....michael http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ www.ct-collective.com --- Per Boysen wrote: > Humbly posting a clip of todays live looping practice, if anyone > cares to listen: > http://www.looproom.com/audio/abc.mp3 > > per > ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 20:12:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61C9B3BF14; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 20:12:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1173284848.45eee7f00533b@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 10:27:28 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: MIDI CC Resolution References: <20070217230220.2080E38102@astra.telenet-ops.be> <45DC37F1.8010700@addcom.de> <1172077856.45dc7d2014846@webmail.musetrap.com> <1173088303.45ebe82f7d3a8@webmail.m3ch.net> <1173120258.45ec6502aa013@webmail.musetrap.com> <45EDA482.5090807@addcom.de> In-Reply-To: <45EDA482.5090807@addcom.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 71.198.6.5 Resent-Message-ID: <0A2ndD.A.Z1B.Izx7FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 20:12:56 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for getting the math right Stefan.. :) I was thinking while I was typing, and oviously doing more typing than thinking when I simply doubled the range... lol.. :) peace -cpr Quoting Stefan Tiedje : > cpr@musetrap.com schrieb: > > So, I think, instead of the a new ultimate looper, we need an > > ultimate midi pedal.. which is not a new topic either.. :) a device > > where the knobs, sliders, and/or pedals have the ability to send not > > only standard midi, but the ability to pair up CC's for the improved > > resolution.. of course, since we are moving out of the 'spec', we > > could go as far as combining more than 2 CC's for an even greater > > resolution... > > This isn't moving out of the specs, 14-bit controllers are well defined. > But resolution isn't a problem with foot pedals, I doubt you could > control more than the 128 steps with your foot. Its about the curve on > how you control parameters. If you want finer resolution on the low end, > you need to be able to shape it somehow... > If you linearly map 96 dB to 128 steps, you'd have less than one dB of > resolution per step. But half way through you have already -48 dB > compared to full blast, which is in a noise environment already silence. > Now if you'd just map 48 dB to 128 steps, you have a problem in the low > end, you need a nonlinear mapping to feel comfortable. Even if you push > the resolution to 16384 steps (14-bit) it won't help with the curve.... > > > timing becomes more important as we chain the commands together, as a > > full CC message on midi hardware takes 1ms to make it's trip... but, > > if the sending device correctly supports 'running status' the two CC > > version will only take 1.6ms, instead of 2ms.. and if we jumped up up > > to a 4 message CC (for a 32766 resolution) it would be 2.8ms > > A 4 message CC would spans 28-bits wich is 268435455 resolution (3 > messages would span 2097151 steps) > I have no idea what this should be good for. Usually the highest > resolution on faders you get on commercial fader boxes is 10-bit, for > two reasons. You can't really control it more precise (its 1024 steps) > and you'd likely have noise on the line, which would let the MSB > fluctuate and you'd stream Midi always and not only if you change > something meaningful... > > The timing by the way is much less critical on continuous controllers, > you don't hit them like drums... > > > While we are talking about controllers, I think coming up with a > > pedal that can have it's current position set (like knobs with halos, > > or motorized faders) would be cool as well.. Nate Pease and I talked > > about a 'roller' with the current position represented by LED's (like > > the knob with halo)... > > I like that idea a lot, and I recall that I have seen something like > that somewhere... > > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > --_____-----------|-------------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 21:38:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 363663BEFC; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 21:38:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Xzes6pvh9wMAK4ZDXHcdGZjKYV77VN3mn6LCAMoWg4VN3tyjN2w2VwcswOsYEw2b+HzvpIjuyMKVJXZpEUnw/i/+P0m2M5jt7tR/pgFi0odC3OFc1U8Yrf8SPcLHwqDob1XoM8vgRa4LNBWxNrtjiVDWXGNOBfRRJpjIOM2ic+0=; X-YMail-OSG: 3mNAnygVM1lsqEXyQW_IdbW33IuvsIfZQIUwrUsfp.c58rz1IXeWCimTCPfixuQWPHvssIsw0xlfZyHHcjPwQjK4JqKHVoY.oD_vNa1CG5xIbTbCW6P8EkGxS7uksxnA3VXKEWVHlddd.dlfektlSwLN.dG_LlAMBCbeSOF0Cw-- Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 22:38:17 +0100 (CET) From: rune fagereng Subject: Re: Cassette looping video (DV camera) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <125D9D62-AB66-41D4-B86F-FAAF6ECD9E32@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <105859.16634.qm@web26211.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 21:38:20 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! I used dv camera - and I am sure you all figured it out - I did the filming when playing. If I were to do it again - I would us more time - and maybe try to get a more artistic approach - like Zoe Keatings video - or if it were to be a more technical (gear) oriented thing - I still think I would like help to do the filming- but I was so eager - just had to do it at once. Rune F. --- Per Boysen skrev: > On 7 mar 2007, at 16.15, Daryl Shawn wrote: > > > I've uploaded a short video of looping with my > cassette four-track > > and dictaphone. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm_rH7XceXo&eurl= > > That was a cool setup! Those two machines with > cables hanging all > out... very nice! Would look good on some particular > stages I > recall ;-) Sounds interesting when you alter the > tape speed. > > I also enjoyed Rune's video posted yesterday. What > cameras are you > guys using? DV or simple PC webcams? > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) > > > www.runefagereng.com Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Mob: 917 95 867 _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 22:01:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AD94A3BEE6; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 22:01:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "greg williams" To: Subject: RE: Cassette looping video Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 14:01:34 -0800 Message-ID: <000001c76104$2c4d37d0$76f8bb43@gwdesk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <45EED710.3070300@mhorse.com> Thread-Index: Acdgy3TyRVIpbq7iTia1c9Cait2JmwAOHmgQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 22:01:28 +0000 (UTC) That's wicked Daryl; very cool. Thanks for the link. ~Greg -----Original Message----- From: Daryl Shawn [mailto:highhorse@mhorse.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:15 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Cassette looping video I've uploaded a short video of looping with my cassette four-track and dictaphone. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm_rH7XceXo&eurl= I'm still figuring out video, this looked very sharp on my own computer, but on Youtube it has a bit of that rain-on-the-lens quality. I saved it as a .wmv at 640x480, which was recommended on a couple of sites, but it seems I could do better. What do other people use? Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 22:11:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 61BA23BF0A; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 22:11:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C76105.7ED2EE20" Subject: RE: Introducing myself :: Rob McDade (South Australia) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:41:03 +1030 Message-ID: <65865F047B28324D92F716B06CAAFE0F023267E5@sagemsg0020.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Introducing myself :: Rob McDade (South Australia) Thread-Index: AcdgBdVqpdzOqJZGR5m3sulOuVSBigA/rCWw From: "McDade, Rob (SLSA)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Mar 2007 22:11:04.0372 (UTC) FILETIME=[7F69CF40:01C76105] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 22:11:09 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C76105.7ED2EE20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi tEd Thanks for the kind words. Funny thing about 'Freak out' - that was more or less an 'accident' in the studio. I was demonstrating to my engineer friend what I could do with my looper - next thing I realise he was recording it. Something green was written in less time than it takes to play. Sometimes 'magic' happens and great music results. Other times you gotta work long and hard. =20 I will check out some of your links soon. Cheers =20 Rob McDade [edited response from tEd (r) kiLLiAn] =20 Hi Rob!=20 =20 Your "rock" splaying on "Rob's Freakout" is wonderfully, funky and "retro."=20 =20 And, I do hear a Will Ackerman influence in "Something Green" too.=20 =20 You'll find folks who play in lottsa different styles on this list.=20 =20 Just about everything but polka I think -- but you never know.=20 =20 Welcome aboard.=20 =20 Peace,=20 =20 tEd (r) kiLLiAn=20 =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C76105.7ED2EE20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    Hi tEd

    Thanks for the kind words.  = Funny thing about ‘Freak out’ -  that was more or less an = ‘accident’ in the studio. I was demonstrating to my engineer friend what I could do with = my looper – next thing I realise he was recording it.  Something green = was written in less time than it takes to play.

    Sometimes ‘magic’ = happens and great music results. Other times you gotta work long and = hard.

     

    I will check out some of your links = soon.

    Cheers

     

    Rob McDade

    [edited response from tEd ® = kiLLiAn]

     

    Hi Rob!

     

    Your "rock" splaying on "Rob's Freakout" is wonderfully, funky and "retro."

     

    And, I do hear a Will Ackerman influence in "Something = Green" too.

     

    You'll find folks who play in lottsa different styles on this = list.

     

    Just about everything but polka I think -- but you never know. =

     

    Welcome aboard.

     

    Peace,

     

    tEd ® kiLLiAn

     

    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C76105.7ED2EE20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 22:23:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 967563BEEE; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 22:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Introducing myself :: Rob McDade (South Australia) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:53:20 +1030 Message-ID: <65865F047B28324D92F716B06CAAFE0F023267E6@sagemsg0020.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au> In-Reply-To: <002874D1-FF3A-4AF4-ADBD-BF6EC0AE730C@gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Introducing myself :: Rob McDade (South Australia) Thread-Index: Acdfxe2B9D8+6bZUTzap/6AdpB2yTgBP5+wg From: "McDade, Rob (SLSA)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Mar 2007 22:23:21.0109 (UTC) FILETIME=[368AF450:01C76107] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 22:23:23 +0000 (UTC) Hi Per, (and tEd) I usually bring 3 guitars to a gig plus my 'small' rig. One acoustic and two electrics (my Fender Strat) and a backup guitar just in case of a string break mid song. It is a good idea to try to get diverse sounds with one instrument and I try to do that with my electric and different pedal settings. I recently bought a behringer multi FX pedal for $50AUS. Which I can tweak and get some interesting sounds - tremolo, chorus, flanger, etc. For $50 its pretty good! Most of my sound revolves around delays - and different distortion settings. I have a boss turbo OD (set to a standard OD setting) and boss Heavy Metal pedal. I usually use that one with the OD to get crazy super distortion / sustain (ala Robert Fripp ca. 1973/74). For extra tone control I have a morley wah pedal which I usually leave ON and just adjust for different tones. Sometimes I do the standard wah thing - but usually its just for the tone. When I want to lay down a bass line I use my SUPER OCTAVE - I set it to POLY mode so it only effects the bottom two or three strings, and is a bit more stable. Then I move the wah toward the heel position and it gets a nice sort of rumble sound - more of a f*cked up bass / guitar sound than a proper bass sound. Gigging tomorrow nite - will play Freakout live for the first time! Rob McDade -----Original Message----- From: Per Boysen [mailto:perboysen@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, 6 March 2007 6:33 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Introducing myself :: Rob McDade (South Australia) On 6 mar 2007, at 04.15, McDade, Rob (SLSA) wrote: > Hi, > This is my first post to this email list and I thought I'd introduce > myself. Hi Rob, and welcome to this list. Interesting idea you have about building =20 stands for your instruments. I know some musician friends that did =20 that. If you have a stand for your acoustic you could simply swing =20 over the electric at your back when approaching the acoustic. That =20 would be fun to watch, being in the audience ;-) I too play many instruments, but I have more or less chosen not to =20 bring them all at gigs - rather focusing on techniques to use one =20 instruments for many musical roles. Like bringing a cello bow and a =20 flute with an electric guitar or like using a pitch shifter to make a =20 tenor sax sound a little differently on some occasions. My newest =20 love is an EWI and for this instrument I have created multi layered =20 and cross-faded sampler patches of my stratocaster played through a =20 cranked tube amp top plus marshal cabinet, so I can play those sounds =20 with this little clarinet-like thing of metal and plastics. Very =20 portable and good sounding but not quite as cool looking on stage as =20 the top and cab with the strat ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 7 23:59:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53FEE3BEE2; Wed, 7 Mar 2007 23:59:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=0lZeoBC81MdtjkC0Tkta/jTI1rgyBvSxsKIuTxpmyxigOaK7DuSWC0iS1H+WKhrLlP620lssnmZKCU2WQiW8urtdjVmzzvmtn9YEVMOS8TEBANgTvf7NZ+TkJ/Yo9JFREf8y5jQgNUXNJ3EdUZK0zkhHXheQhWQaue2S0Y0HAjI=; X-YMail-OSG: gKeWHkkVM1nx_8ryXLaFjhFHt1yyCDusX6tQMA7YSP.ILVyPhsEZ5btmyqfdDaGbzlhN7n9bVg9A9999TIJ1l63NR9newZBkxhWhApTj93qrviw20nAGw.DnYJz5eN.HJS._jGtzHlySWsay9Ye0y3AFHg-- Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 15:59:36 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: I seek help/most believe I am beyond (loop related) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <994052.1317.qm@web59001.mail.re1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <817854.55901.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <3Ojm1D.A.uEE.qH17FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 23:59:38 +0000 (UTC) --- DrXparaMental wrote: > Currently I am using Ableton's LIVE 5.2.2 & Stylus > RMX. Are there other PC soft loop programs that are > recommended "here"? Here? You mean in my cube at work? Are you here with me? I'm using a similar setup but I augment Ableton's looping with Mobius (an amazing free software looper based on the Echoplex Digital Pro x 16) and sometimes angstromloop or ELOTTRONIX XL. That's all on the XP side. On the Mac OSX side the pick'ns are slim, but Augustus Loop is a fine software looper. I'd bring up PSP42 but it's loop time is too short to be useful in my world. Not worth the money IMO. There's this too: http://www.loopersdelight.com/tools/tools.html > > My objectives are live performance oriented. The > hardware I am hoping to incorporate into these > performances are Bass/V Bass/Korg MS2000B/Boss > RC-50/Laptop/Motu Traveler/Axiom 49 controller & > midi foot controller/16 channel mixer. Sounds like the making of a great loop setup. Welcome. Mark ____________________________________________________________________________________ It's here! 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Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 00:09:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1697A3BEEA; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 00:09:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=A0mOSOfFePv05zf1Y8Dd8x8loXqPzpIx1uO5eqAnp3McuAblOpwiJQhGxDwAx0zMTCz0LDFyP6dkiDkfL90JpfR/CSXTF+sAXC9qhC9ZqsYCRA9c+SZLfUYIso9TF6yyrtSrpQtwuDg1Uapowrv34EWoRm+IM8l8YWpZWh+504w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=HTQJBWo+ugC45eFHcubutKis4760WyKBdtQkxWAq1VSJ1HCCxQFA11WpuLfujnsztaH8YTvoUh3HhZ1g8rNEORCSpsU7hNsR6Cn+2pK6T4qtap05U9wDO0vrpUkHiNY0IBMcKqigli2S8EoVxpE11KDgQMQr+l1Rs0HywRMIUZ0= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <913773.17519.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <913773.17519.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: mp3 clip posted Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 01:08:54 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 00:09:01 +0000 (UTC) Well, since I'm originally a guitar player it came out rather "guitarrish" as I played the EWI though the guitar rig. As for the vision, the phrasing and intonation I guess you could say that "it is guitar", but in a strictly technical sense I was using the EWI to "play guitar". Glad you liked the stuff, because I was amazed myself. I'm pretty new to playing the EWI and I kind of get the same feeling for it as for my old Strat set up with floating whammy. I used the EWI's built-in synth here, but you can also use it to drive some other synth or sampler via MIDI. And looping of course done in Mobius by feet while playing. per On 7 mar 2007, at 18.53, Brian Kupferschmid wrote: > Dude, is that guitar or synth? I like some of those > growling sounds, how do you do that? > --- Per Boysen wrote: > >> Humbly posting a clip of todays live looping >> practice, if anyone >> cares to listen: >> http://www.looproom.com/audio/abc.mp3 >> >> per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 01:09:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49BC63BEEC; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 01:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=6Te35A/G1G4QqyUPScBfiQj0bE7jwwtWbWYlXQ/pvVTT+kNtSIPUfilO52YWz8LnG8Bcls0Hx6x1Y2J/0ss1Pg02EY6aOoxra/Qvo+6VSyKhx98Y90AkRJZxuKjzdaGL+AIzL6pLoCm5BybhUSy+j0OpPUnsLpuVUUlyeXK8QYY=; X-YMail-OSG: jpNwJ9wVM1niL.N3VHqi3mqYgQhZbAWVZApmFxvsQKugaIDDeMsa7XzlxdNUxluTi35Cmyi4hCAT49YC9kpx1YvFU.ZU.2d.8SL9TeOUK3uia3aKWyvlWZ8q4UHYhTKAQd2qF4XBltZuhVWrgI423ARDv68- Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 17:09:31 -0800 (PST) From: rabbirabbifive Subject: Allow me to introduce myself... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <33789.35696.qm@web60311.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 01:09:33 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I have been looping for about 2 years now, 1st with an EDP, then with a Looperlative, and now with Mobius. I make music that most people don't get. [:-(] But I keep doing it [:-)] I recently finished a tribute to Robert Anton Wilson. The tracks (ogg files) are here- http://www.esnips.com/web/13thEye Please feel free to comment, privately or publicly. And now a question- I am only a little bothered by the (seeming?) inaccessability of my music. Should I be more bothered? Not an easy question, but one meant to provoke reflection. -rabbi ____________________________________________________________________________________ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 02:14:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 219693BEEC; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 02:14:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Subject: Some advice about the RC-50XL To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Mirapoint Webmail Direct 3.7.5a-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20070307211429.CWD05656@ms02.lnh.mail.rcn.net> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 21:14:29 -0500 (EST) X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 02:14:42 +0000 (UTC) Ive just discovered the joys of looping and i am so happy find this group of dedicated musicians. I own an RC-50XL looper which I am a bit frustrated using trying to accurately time my live looping. I am sure alot comes down to the player and your timing, etc. but is there a better unit I should be looking for? Are there some hints and tricks for this unit that I may be missing? Does using a drum machine w/ a midi sequencer help the unit get extra functionality? I play guitar with a 70/80/90 cover band and would like to lay down a rhythm parts live and then jump over to leads. We have only 1 guitarist (I want to keep it that way!!) Never seems to be on que, and the beat seems to wander off. Secondly I would like to use it to do one or 2 man shows playing a more house/groove type of sound. Should I be thinking PC/MAC softsynths? Ron aka Reggie B From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 02:27:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D7E43BF19; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 02:27:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01aa01c76129$4399e120$6401a8c0@homeanj> From: "arcmotion" To: References: <20070307211429.CWD05656@ms02.lnh.mail.rcn.net> Subject: Re: Some advice about the RC-50XL Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:27:05 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 02:27:12 +0000 (UTC) make sure the rc50 is the master and not the slave ...otherwise things will wander due to a technical problem with the rc50......maybe fixed one day by roland. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 10:14 AM Subject: Some advice about the RC-50XL > Ive just discovered the joys of looping and i am so happy find this group > of dedicated musicians. > > I own an RC-50XL looper which I am a bit frustrated using trying to > accurately time my live looping. > > I am sure alot comes down to the player and your timing, etc. but is there > a better unit I should be looking for? Are there some hints and tricks > for this unit that I may be missing? Does using a drum machine w/ a midi > sequencer help the unit get extra functionality? > > I play guitar with a 70/80/90 cover band and would like to lay down a > rhythm parts live and then jump over to leads. We have only 1 guitarist (I > want to keep it that way!!) Never seems to be on que, and the beat seems > to wander off. Secondly I would like to use it to do one or 2 man shows > playing a more house/groove type of sound. Should I be thinking PC/MAC > softsynths? > > Ron aka Reggie B > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 02:52:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B91223BEE8; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 02:52:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=dYYInLIUJl02+jEvroR0Lj6JcpA0z8k40mUCNJYSqwHS9Y58+maMekFHS/Lt1121oAszCCoejy+WrIYLjWX9rNUKdYCsj4SUgJmFSn2jOF68h8MUMXoo/MKsLCOo4+fHI8jy8TT+SCrA9J9EntdHhLKQ+fZEYqL/KrZpGk3URnY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=S6pgjwJYchjrjR4ZCGASx147k362A7VSeET7ZLOAiWWuA3f39Cns2rNPMuOZW9RfPkSEzbLNGiOc0g6KXkNFU/HCbnNNLKkvZuVpqiPCiCHFf0A9T/qTKCm0IK11eFdqeVhHZCZ5qB0sCahr1bhqLnva99BxLmGVSHRhfnzM95o= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <33789.35696.qm@web60311.mail.yahoo.com> References: <33789.35696.qm@web60311.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <1AC35304-BFC3-43E4-B80C-8C14ACF8CC2A@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: RP Collier Subject: Re: Allow me to introduce myself... Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 18:52:10 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68779 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 02:52:14 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 7, 2007, at 5:09 PM, rabbirabbifive wrote: > And now a question- I am only a little bothered by the (seeming?) > inaccessability of my music. Should I be more bothered? Can't answer your question since it depends what you want and these things change over time and often from project to project. But it might be worth checking out Derek Bailey interviews for a perspective on being inaccessible. He talks about giving concerts where only 3 people show up as audience and 2 of them leave before half time. There are many interviews and profiles of him around, a good place to start is ubu: http://www.ubu.com/sound/bailey.html regards BobC http://www.flickr.com/photos/41969054@N00/sets/72157594240725240 http://tinyurl.com/cr25j http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM8KFMkWiaI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn--iF6a4Xo From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 03:12:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0FAF3BEFC; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 03:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <33789.35696.qm@web60311.mail.yahoo.com> References: <33789.35696.qm@web60311.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-16--404662755 Message-Id: <41a10cf838841cf19d3cd7c4463695fe@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: Allow me to introduce myself... Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 19:12:29 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68780 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 03:12:40 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-16--404662755 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Well... why .ogg? MP3 or MP4s are more accessible. Never ran into .ogg before! Could that explain the inaccessibility of your work? richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 7-Mar-07, at 5:09 PM, rabbirabbifive wrote: > Hi all, I have been looping for about 2 years now, 1st with an EDP, > then with a Looperlative, and now with Mobius. I make music that most > people don't get. [:-(] But I keep doing it [:-)] I recently finished > a tribute to Robert Anton Wilson. The tracks (ogg files) are here- > > http://www.esnips.com/web/13thEye > > Please feel free to comment, privately or publicly. > > And now a question- I am only a little bothered by the (seeming?) > inaccessability of my music. Should I be more bothered? Not an easy > question, but one meant to provoke reflection. > > -rabbi > > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > _____________ > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail > --Apple-Mail-16--404662755 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII Well... why .ogg? MP3 or MP4s are more accessible. Never ran into .ogg before! Could that explain the inaccessibility of your work? Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 7-Mar-07, at 5:09 PM, rabbirabbifive wrote: Hi all, I have been looping for about 2 years now, 1st with an EDP, then with a Looperlative, and now with Mobius. I make music that most people don't get. [:-(] But I keep doing it [:-)] I recently finished a tribute to Robert Anton Wilson. The tracks (ogg files) are here- http://www.esnips.com/web/13thEye Please feel free to comment, privately or publicly. And now a question- I am only a little bothered by the (seeming?) inaccessability of my music. Should I be more bothered? Not an easy question, but one meant to provoke reflection. -rabbi ____________________________________________________________________________________ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail --Apple-Mail-16--404662755-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 03:25:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1496B3BEEE; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 03:25:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <2E34E63E-1B2D-460A-A28B-B13F8BEE483C@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Zoe Keating Subject: repeater: problem solved (fingers crossed) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 19:25:35 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Server-Quench: af7cec6e-cd24-11db-8cc9-001185d377ca X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZeQQAe DQsWCyJDRAw5JxtD RxQEKB1+J10RWB5K d2pXKltcMEE0QVZe QzNJGEkABQEoDjsx dVkOMEtdalUzDkd1 UkhJRUJSFw9qBBYC DlAYVQdzfw1Yen1x e0dlX29ZWUZ/akYz HkxcFg1UNAFgamAe U0EWdgZVeE0bKBgW PwN5AW5eNWcDe3th EwV2bzs6bHAHcH0M ElwBdg1NSk8dBDMk ShkeEC99VVUfQC83 IhluMVkYAksdegU8 MF0uVEgDexQIDRZF Ek0MaCkg X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:556/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68781 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 03:25:45 +0000 (UTC) Hello, THANK YOU to everyone who responded, kindly offering their Repeater. Everyone who wrote categorically refused to accept compensation for the use of their valuable looping device, which I think speaks to the real community spirit on this list. I am grateful, thank you. Anyway....I solved my problem (I think). Here's what I did. Went to hardware store. Bought a torq wrench. Took repeater apart. Made sure all the visible connections were solidly connected (pressed in all the ribbon cables for example). Put it back together. It worked! I think I'm golden (until the next time it konks out). I think it might have happened on my flight back from the UK. The units are shock mounted, and travel in a foam lined case, but nothing can really protect your gear from the alternate, throw-your-case-20-feet-in-the-air, reality it enters when handled by airline employees. Really, I feel like I have some debt to pay here, maybe I should invite the entire Loopers Delight list over for a dinner/annoy-the- neighbours--group-jam???? hugs and kisses all round (!), Zoe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 03:44:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E12E43BF01; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 03:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=CPPJapWqzhDoQ++qslHkLoKnMl80oK9lgh9XV723aOwdbHtdxoj3FpA4y/T9MBhaGKZYFad9VhYnWcrF3kl3T1FbQ5vcOYXrBXJp2cAQSCpzo/JETsScfDZPCXcjsm/EcIyq7cDZPZFhbbD8EZ1DvLtosxg3WgXS9EnOcQtEBXQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=o0ght2jusl3V3Z58kjg5H6dVapcco+HJTCcRJofR1MYpFrR+lO3O6sdtC+g9KjBfVsLFuiwOmRgg5tIni95tUQd+RmDAqXV6ItrPPVJsDr5HON3IUobh8GN1XwotWd7KDelqAt6LpLxdQxA7jeeCQ74Lg3bhVdIveZOc77VoP6c= Message-ID: <2665e0c50703071944h34e16221na3410c13e80f92e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 21:44:43 -0600 From: "Ben M" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: repeater: problem solved (fingers crossed) In-Reply-To: <2E34E63E-1B2D-460A-A28B-B13F8BEE483C@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_203739_32470780.1173325483622" References: <2E34E63E-1B2D-460A-A28B-B13F8BEE483C@zoekeating.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 03:44:47 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_203739_32470780.1173325483622 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline We just loves us some Zoe, that's all. On 3/7/07, Zoe Keating wrote: > > Hello, > > THANK YOU to everyone who responded, kindly offering their Repeater. > Everyone who wrote categorically refused to accept compensation for > the use of their valuable looping device, which I think speaks to the > real community spirit on this list. I am grateful, thank you. > > Anyway....I solved my problem (I think). > > Here's what I did. Went to hardware store. Bought a torq wrench. Took > repeater apart. Made sure all the visible connections were solidly > connected (pressed in all the ribbon cables for example). > Put it back together. It worked! I think I'm golden (until the next > time it konks out). I think it might have happened on my flight back > from the UK. The units are shock mounted, and travel in a foam lined > case, but nothing can really protect your gear from the alternate, > throw-your-case-20-feet-in-the-air, reality it enters when handled by > airline employees. > > Really, I feel like I have some debt to pay here, maybe I should > invite the entire Loopers Delight list over for a dinner/annoy-the- > neighbours--group-jam???? > > hugs and kisses all round (!), Zoe > > > ------=_Part_203739_32470780.1173325483622 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline We just loves us some Zoe, that's all.

    On 3/7/07, Zoe Keating <cello@zoekeating.com> wrote:
    Hello,

    THANK YOU to everyone who responded, kindly offering their Repeater.
    Everyone who wrote categorically refused to accept compensation for
    the use of their valuable looping device, which I think speaks to the
    real community spirit on this list. I am grateful, thank you.

    Anyway....I solved my problem (I think).

    Here's what I did. Went to hardware store. Bought a torq wrench. Took
    repeater apart. Made sure all the visible connections were solidly
    connected (pressed in all the ribbon cables for example).
    Put it back together. It worked! I think I'm golden (until the next
    time it konks out). I think it might have happened on my flight back
    from the UK. The units are shock mounted, and travel in a foam lined
    case, but nothing can really protect your gear from the alternate,
    throw-your-case-20-feet-in-the-air, reality it enters when handled by
    airline employees.

    Really, I feel like I have some debt to pay here, maybe I should
    invite the entire Loopers Delight list over for a dinner/annoy-the-
    neighbours--group-jam????

    hugs and kisses all round (!), Zoe



    ------=_Part_203739_32470780.1173325483622-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 03:45:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E02C3BF0B; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 03:45:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <640c7553a4fcc8d134b6428b3e516e86@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: derek bailey Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 20:45:29 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Resent-Message-ID: <5OlwWB.A.SaF.db47FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 03:45:33 +0000 (UTC) Thought this might be of interest: http://www.ubu.com/film/bailey.html - Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 03:59:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2AD03BEFA; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 03:59:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <640c7553a4fcc8d134b6428b3e516e86@mac.com> References: <640c7553a4fcc8d134b6428b3e516e86@mac.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1--401850249 Message-Id: <2667616fe73d05ca00936c694768abe6@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: derek bailey Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 19:59:21 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 03:59:23 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1--401850249 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed David Sylvian just put out a GREAT record of Derek Bailey. On Samhadisound Records. It's so inaccessible it's accessible! I like it. My daughter liked it! Here boyfriend liked it. I was blown away that they liked it cause they're youngin's who listen to Jack Johnson and semi mellow roots kind of stuff. Just him and guitar. A very cool purity to it. David's got a whole cool string of new records coming out. I think you can seem them at Samhadisound.com (or something like that). Check 'em out. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 7-Mar-07, at 7:45 PM, Paul Mimlitsch wrote: > Thought this might be of interest: > > http://www.ubu.com/film/bailey.html > > > - Paul > --Apple-Mail-1--401850249 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII David Sylvian just put out a GREAT record of Derek Bailey. On Samhadisound Records. It's so inaccessible it's accessible! I like it. My daughter liked it! Here boyfriend liked it. I was blown away that they liked it cause they're youngin's who listen to Jack Johnson and semi mellow roots kind of stuff. Just him and guitar. A very cool purity to it. David's got a whole cool string of new records coming out. I think you can seem them at Samhadisound.com (or something like that). Check 'em out. Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 7-Mar-07, at 7:45 PM, Paul Mimlitsch wrote: Thought this might be of interest: http://www.ubu.com/film/bailey.html - Paul --Apple-Mail-1--401850249-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 05:07:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B4013BF0A; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 05:07:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: SoPUD_8VM1lEoErafIvctBL.Gyg9gdMGG5P8f4pVMs.CyybD.gR_.Xpg_gVfx0T03ax78mLSCAeRQQj0IgjLokMgdzumNmWh6A8dn_JY5lk0Y9uQKCCrtyfsQbD5cHzuGkDilGmRfX3VUXc- Message-ID: <45EF995C.8040007@minds-eye.org> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2007 21:04:28 -0800 From: Kevin Cheli-Colando User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: derek bailey References: <640c7553a4fcc8d134b6428b3e516e86@mac.com> In-Reply-To: <640c7553a4fcc8d134b6428b3e516e86@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 05:07:16 +0000 (UTC) > Thought this might be of interest: > > http://www.ubu.com/film/bailey.html > > > Those are really great shows (at least the first couple, I seem to recall the latter episodes to be a little less inspiring). The first segment at the school in Chinatown blew me away. Wish I had had an education like that (or a formalized education like that I guess). Recommended viewing. Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 05:26:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A82DE3BF14; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 05:26:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20070308003352.046db7c8@sympatico.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 00:34:02 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Smart Subject: Composition Contest: in search of the lost chords Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-45F63B5F Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 05:26:49 +0000 (UTC) The following is exerpted from the blog called=20 "Score", connected to the New York Times online at: http://thescore.blogs.nytimes.com/?excamp=3Dmkt_at12 March 6, 2007, 11:13 pm The =91In Search of the Lost Chords=92 Contest By Glenn Branca glenn@glennbranca.com The sweetest sounds I=92ve ever heard are still=20 inside my head.=97 Richard Rogers We discussed the widespread contempt in which=20 ukulele players are held - traceable, we=20 concluded, to the uke=92s all-but-exclusive=20 employment as a producer of chords - single,=20 timeless events apprehended all at once instead=20 of serially. Notes of a linear melody, up and=20 down a staff, being a record of pitch versus=20 time, to play a melody is to introduce the=20 element of time, and hence of mortality. Our=20 perceived reluctance to leave the timelessness of=20 the struck chord has earned ukulele players our=20 reputation as feckless, clownlike children who=20 will not grow up. =97 Thomas Pynchon from "Against The Day=94 Yes, this is a contest. And it=92s open to any and everyone. Here are the rules. Write and record up to three=20 minutes of startlingly new and original=20 instrumental chords. They can be scored in any=20 fashion whatsoever, using any instrumentation or=20 sound producing devices. You can submit a static=20 series of chords or you can perturb the chords in=20 any fashion. You can just submit one big gorgeous chord if you wish. The submissions can be sent here in the form of a=20 posted link to a site where a recording of the=20 piece can be heard (like MySpace, for example).=20 Leave the link in a comment at the end of this=20 post. Don=92t send any music files. At the end of the month I will announce the=20 winners on my last blog entry. I was hoping to be able to have some kind of=20 small rewards for the winners, but it=92s not=20 possible at this time. The links to all of the=20 entries will stay posted in the comment section=20 so that people can judge for themselves if they=20 don=92t like my choices. But I will only post=20 entries that seem to be within the spirit of the contest. [Legal Note: By submitting a link to music you=20 represent and warrant that the music found there=20 is your original creation and that it does not=20 infringe on any existing copyright.] Anyone who can=92t post an entry because they=92re=20 not a member of TimesSelect can just send the=20 link to me at glenn@glennbranca.com and I=92ll post it. In searching for lost chords there can only be=20 one method, and that is the method that eschews=20 all pre-existing methods. THE SECRETS OF HARMONY Are there natural laws of music? Are the rules of=20 harmony like a science that reveals to us the=20 inner workings of a system? Are modulations and=20 cadences like formulae that will produce accurate=20 results? Is the history of music more or less a=20 map which if followed to a logical conclusion=20 will leads us to the perfect destination? Or is=20 music a mysterious, irrational problem that even=20 a gifted savant could not solve without the help=20 of an intuitive muse and perhaps a little white-hot inspiration? The secrets of harmony are buried in a safe place=20 beneath hundreds of years of music theory.=20 Originally theory was called counterpoint and was invented solely as an instruction manual for rural=20 choirmasters. It was cheaper than commissioning=20 the likes of a Bach to give your town its own=20 musical identity. Since theory was necessarily=20 derived from an analysis of previously existing=20 music, then any music based on that theory must=20 itself sound like the music that the theory was=20 derived from. In fact that was the whole point.=20 Of course my point is that if you want to write=20 something that doesn=92t sound anything like=20 anything you=92ve ever heard before then this kind=20 of self-referential theory can=92t get you there. But there are other reasons to support=20 anti-theory. If there were a natural law of music=20 it would be the harmonic series: http://cnx.org/content/m11118/latest/ Being infinite it contains within it all music:=20 every interval, every mode, key or cluster in=20 every possible tuning or temperament, all=20 resonating in multifarious rhythms and melodies=20 from a single fundamental tone. To create a=20 system based on a particular set of intervals,=20 chords or keys over any other is a matter of=20 cultural preference that becomes entrenched over=20 time, attaching meaning that is illusory. PSYCHO-ACOUSTIC SUBJECTIVITY Music must be heard. This is the corollary to=20 Varese=92s =93music must sound.=94 Unlike the other=20 arts music can never be literal. By its very=20 nature it is abstract. But it can move a listener=20 in ways that no words or pictures can ever do. When a major triad is voiced in a particular way=20 and is heard in a resonant acoustic space,=20 sometimes voices or even choirs seem to be heard.=20 This psycho-acoustic phenomenon can be explained=20 simply by the fact that the music is voiced in a=20 manner that people associate with a choir. This=20 is the reason why early dissonant music often=20 reminded people of traffic jams, or certain types=20 of clusters sounded to them like a swarm of bees.=20 The mind must categorize what it hears based on=20 previous reference. Music sounds like music=20 because it sounds like music. Composers can=92t ignore this subjective aspect of=20 perception. But they can exploit it in the gray=20 area between perceived musical sound and=20 non-musical sound. This is the point at which a=20 moment of perceptual tabula rasa can imprint=20 music that=92s never been heard before. FULL RANGE CHORDS Nicholas Slonimsky once wrote that it had been=20 determined that there are 479,001,600=20 permutations of a single musical phrase based on=20 the 12 tones of the chromatic scale. In that same=20 light it can be shown that there are 4095=20 different chords that can be derived from those=20 same 12 tones. But if one thinks in terms of=20 chords that extend over the full orchestral=20 range, using the 88 keys of the piano as=20 reference, there are approximately=20 300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 different=20 chords that can be derived from those 88 tones.=20 That=92s 2 to the 88th power. Of course this=20 calculation does not take into account microtonal=20 intervals which would increase the size of the=20 number astronomically considering that it is possible to get meaningful audible differences down to at least an eighth tone. The point of such a demonstration, similar to=20 what Slonimsky was trying to show, is that the=20 number of possible chords is inexhaustible. And=20 of course with timbre and orchestration=20 introduced the potential is virtually infinite. AMBIGUOUS TONALITY One example of a chord that defies analysis is=20 the =93unison cluster.=94 This is a type of dense=20 cluster in which the tones are placed very close=20 together using small microtonal intervals. The=20 effect is neither of a cluster nor a unison. But=20 the sound is rich with a strange, singing=20 choir-like quality. The clash of harmonics which=20 occurs in a standard cluster does not occur here=20 because the harmonic interaction that creates the=20 harsh sound is so high that it=92s outside the range of hearing. In fact this quality is at work to a subtle=20 degree in the sound of an orchestral string=20 section that can never be perfectly in tune. Some=20 conductors will even use the trick of having the=20 string players tune slightly out to get a=20 =93richer=94 sound. It is also why an out of tune=20 piano can have an oddly appealing sound. A piano=20 doubles and triples unison strings in most of the range. Music is not pure. It cannot be pure. Sound is=20 noise. In the 70s it was popular for studio=20 engineers to try to get the =93cleanest=94 possible=20 sound, a vogue that lasted for years and was a=20 complete failure. The only clean sound is silence. Schoenberg in his =93Harmonielehre=94 refers to what=20 he calls =93tone colors.=94 This was his way of=20 describing ambiguous pitch or sounds that cannot=20 be analyzed in terms of pitch alone. In fact he=20 went so far as to say that there could be no=20 system or theory to define such music. Ironically this work led to the rejection of=20 tonality by many 20th century 12-tonalists and=20 serialists. Instead of opening the potential for tonal variety it became severely limited. They believed that an=20 ambiguous or neutral tonal landscape could not be=20 achieved using consonant chords. They also had a=20 reliance on specific pitch that could be dealt=20 with like numbers in a mathematical equation.=20 There is a reason why art is not science. To=20 =93prove=94 the efficacy of a musical pattern in some=20 rational system means nothing if it sounds bad.=20 Strangely few had seemed to notice the success=20 that Webern had had introducing consonance into atonality. MATERIALS FOR BUILDING LOST CHORDS It should be kept in mind that when building lost=20 chords the sound of a chord is relative. A=20 dissonant chord can sound almost consonant when=20 preceded by a chord or cluster that is far more=20 dissonant. As well, a series of consonant chords=20 can sound saccharine without contrast. Following=20 are a few hints on mechanics: TIMBRE: The use of untempered sound such as steel=20 chicken wire instead of guitar or piano strings,=20 copper plumbing pipes, bowed cymbals or a kazoo,=20 homemade instruments, =93ethnic=94 instruments such=20 as a hurdy-gurdy, bagpipes or sarangi, synth=20 effects and EQ that can be found on any sampler=20 to alter a conventional instrument sound.=20 Altering timbre entirely changes the harmonic=20 content of a sound. With this type of sound the=20 fundamental often no longer dominates. The=20 harmonic interaction is unpredictable and can=20 create unusual relationships. MICROTONALITY: Tones based on the intervals of=20 the harmonic series or any division of the octave=20 smaller than a half tone. WEIGHTING: Using dynamics or instrument doubling,=20 the balance of the tones within a chord can be=20 drastically altered. For example if one were to=20 use a cluster and a major triad in the same=20 chord, emphasizing the cluster would give a very=20 different chord than emphasizing the triad. Of=20 course this technique can be used in far more subtle ways. VOICING AND RANGE: Three notes spread out over=20 the entire range is a very different chord than=20 the same three notes voiced within a single=20 octave. A chord in the high range is very=20 different than the same chord in the low range.=20 This is not trivial. Voicing change and note=20 change are equally important. Think in terms of a=20 full seven-octave range. AMBIGUITY: This technique includes unison=20 clusters and ambiguous tonality discussed=20 earlier. Introducing an unfamiliar sound into a=20 familiar context or vice versa is an effective tool. CHANGE: Here is a trick of the trade. When making=20 a change always change at least two elements.=20 This is the concept of contrary motion but=20 extrapolated across the entire field of possible change. Combining these various types will give the best=20 results. In short, composing lost chords requires=20 attention to detail and carefully constructed contrast. Anyone who is interested in finding out about=20 recordings of music that transcend the=20 predictable can go to Massimo Ricci=92s www.touchingextremes.org. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/713 - Release Date: 3/7/2007 9:2= 4 AM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 05:43:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1CE73BF0A; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 05:43:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20070308004938.0464cf08@sympatico.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 00:50:59 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Smart Subject: Re: Allow me to introduce myself... In-Reply-To: <41a10cf838841cf19d3cd7c4463695fe@glasswing.com> References: <33789.35696.qm@web60311.mail.yahoo.com> <41a10cf838841cf19d3cd7c4463695fe@glasswing.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-45F63B5F Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 05:43:45 +0000 (UTC) At 10:12 PM 3/7/2007, you wrote: >Well... why .ogg? MP3 or MP4s are more accessible. Never ran into >.ogg before! .ogg is open source, can play in Winamp, MediaPlayer, and a host of others, and according to lots of people besides myself, sounds better than an mp3 file at the same bit rate. It's been around a long time. Try encoding something into .ogg format at 128K, then make an mp3 at the same bitrate. Listen especially to the highs. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/713 - Release Date: 3/7/2007 9:24 AM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 06:47:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6436F3BF19; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 06:47:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=nxMR9lpZbusMvz8iu32+84Cd1aE4/WhgF5Jl01aZqpEikdVEsyrEG28d3bM1xHPYvuSkcyP+M1AETesMHs3fc1pMjtV1meiSlawXyc6bxeLZSKPFoxxHwsMRde18vvaGKiaIT+qyHnVqoondlRxDblk/SGTHwIQSd9AcVfdC/Eo=; X-YMail-OSG: mlLG01YVM1ndrzcV1SQySsK5aBX_98.Qxplc3RPuMck9syQbQk2YuLsNcckCUjzrQnSP.Kv7_ojZEnANdq.K2QFkty4R_pt_PcvnugiJY4bEYYdHwbiV9ZancpwiiyOBKlcmYOONk2r_ifp48k6PkAC8Gg-- Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 22:47:36 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Kupferschmid Subject: Re: mp3 clip posted To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <527592.55590.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 06:47:38 +0000 (UTC) That was very guitar-like. I have also heard some of your other looping with the sax(EWI also?), very good stuff indeed. Have you ever tried to use the looper to make chord progressions by layering note of a chord on top of each other with your sax? --- Per Boysen wrote: > Well, since I'm originally a guitar player it came > out rather > "guitarrish" as I played the EWI though the guitar > rig. As for the > vision, the phrasing and intonation I guess you > could say that "it is > guitar", but in a strictly technical sense I was > using the EWI to > "play guitar". Glad you liked the stuff, because I > was amazed myself. > I'm pretty new to playing the EWI and I kind of get > the same feeling > for it as for my old Strat set up with floating > whammy. I used the > EWI's built-in synth here, but you can also use it > to drive some > other synth or sampler via MIDI. And looping of > course done in Mobius > by feet while playing. > > per > > On 7 mar 2007, at 18.53, Brian Kupferschmid wrote: > > > Dude, is that guitar or synth? I like some of > those > > growling sounds, how do you do that? > > --- Per Boysen wrote: > > > >> Humbly posting a clip of todays live looping > >> practice, if anyone > >> cares to listen: > >> http://www.looproom.com/audio/abc.mp3 > >> > >> per > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 08:59:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E28D03BEE7; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:59:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00a501c76160$60c92c60$2302a8c0@chris> From: "Chris@jtc.de" To: "RP Collier" Cc: References: <1AC35304-BFC3-43E4-B80C-8C14ACF8CC2A@gmail.com> Subject: inaccessability of music Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:01:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-RZG-AUTH: gSBzUHIFnvYRpGJuMB9l2uY7g79gUyUTWifMTNE/eNx+ijZ+VyHU6w8CkTQZ X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 08:59:42 +0000 (UTC) Hi, this surely is an interesting aspect of music. I also had live-performances with my looping or also with my band Zeitloop where just a few people showed up. It was more than 3 , but even if it was 15 it frustrated me a bit. The question is what you expect from it. Isn´t it worth even playing before just a few guys who came to the concert and are really interested in what you doing. And don´t forget to notice that your live-practising will help you to be more secure, getting better on stage. But I know it´s tough sometimes to keep up the good vibes and don´t care about the attendance. I definetely will listen to this Derek Bailey interview within the next couple days. By the way, check out my music if you like to. As I´m new in this discussion-group I´m not sure if it´s o.k. to do a link at my websites. Maybe no promotion here, mmmhh. But I just do it.... Have a nice day! CHRISTO JOTA www.myspace.com/christojota www.myspace.com/zeitloop ----- Original Message ----- From: RP Collier To: Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 3:52 AM Subject: Re: Allow me to introduce myself... > On Mar 7, 2007, at 5:09 PM, rabbirabbifive wrote: > > > And now a question- I am only a little bothered by the (seeming?) > > inaccessability of my music. Should I be more bothered? > > Can't answer your question since it depends what you want and these > things change over time and often from project to project. > > But it might be worth checking out Derek Bailey interviews for a > perspective on being inaccessible. He talks about giving concerts > where only 3 people show up as audience and 2 of them leave before > half time. > > There are many interviews and profiles of him around, a good place to > start is ubu: > > http://www.ubu.com/sound/bailey.html > > > regards > > > BobC > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/41969054@N00/sets/72157594240725240 > http://tinyurl.com/cr25j > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM8KFMkWiaI > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn--iF6a4Xo > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 10:09:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A6F843BF0A; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:09:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=lCcWqzEzlaF5jNYFn28L8/SOekSYL5XuM8aHDxapbOlZzbpvy4u/hySITUZGjl1oN2KrhxghnX0A+VGcC4FrMN27EGsr/5e4SG+ewEy7PxBLhIKd8vTlmRwwsG03CpoEq3LMudQDOy5EdBMiB7l6hbm3o5vON2tq2enToVU8cmQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=kSH4HCHxGNhchJ/IjS+hZUNsDm7gchC9h5d6Z5bW9FZuv+0xrgMcQn58B8ieTIWg6BIyeKwh2yILKK2vIFnEn90Ku/TxYHNzA1ORpq9UoAYX8gB8eFGGolQM43QktYunB+styk0n/Uo6x/gAF00RJxlhSANbphVdW26devQo1SY= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <527592.55590.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <527592.55590.qm@web34302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <31F09AE4-4A34-4C07-915C-DF82EB5E9EC4@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: mp3 clip posted Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:09:25 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:09:30 +0000 (UTC) On 8 mar 2007, at 07.47, Brian Kupferschmid wrote: > That was very guitar-like. I have also heard some of > your other looping with the sax(EWI also?),0 No, that's my tenor sax. A 1914 silver Conn with a nine star Otto Link mouthpiece armed with a soft fibracell reed (plastic coated bamboo). Gives a tone I like, but is a bit hard to play. Not for playing in a big band but great for improvised music where you can set the pace according to how much you're lip muscles can put up with before you loose the ability of correct intonation. > very good > stuff indeed. Have you ever tried to use the looper > to make chord progressions by layering note of a chord > on top of each other with your sax? Yes. I actually thought that was what you had heard me doing in those live looping releases ;-) The first time on record where I used that looping technique was this tune: http://www.looproom.com/aol/01_Patterns.mp3 where I played sax (through a wha pedal) into an EDP and ran the EDP output (the loops) through different effects. While playing the lead sax line I overdubbed accurate notes (not all) into three loops to form three different chords that I could step between with foot pedals. So you could say that the harmony voicing of those three chords grew thicker the longer the lead sax line had been going. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) > --- Per Boysen wrote: > >> Well, since I'm originally a guitar player it came >> out rather >> "guitarrish" as I played the EWI though the guitar >> rig. As for the >> vision, the phrasing and intonation I guess you >> could say that "it is >> guitar", but in a strictly technical sense I was >> using the EWI to >> "play guitar". Glad you liked the stuff, because I >> was amazed myself. >> I'm pretty new to playing the EWI and I kind of get >> the same feeling >> for it as for my old Strat set up with floating >> whammy. I used the >> EWI's built-in synth here, but you can also use it >> to drive some >> other synth or sampler via MIDI. And looping of >> course done in Mobius >> by feet while playing. >> >> per >> >> On 7 mar 2007, at 18.53, Brian Kupferschmid wrote: >> >>> Dude, is that guitar or synth? I like some of >> those >>> growling sounds, how do you do that? >>> --- Per Boysen wrote: >>> >>>> Humbly posting a clip of todays live looping >>>> practice, if anyone >>>> cares to listen: >>>> http://www.looproom.com/audio/abc.mp3 >>>> >>>> per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 11:17:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC6DA3BEFA; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:17:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 06:17:45 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to Afterglow, Galactic Travels, and The AM/FM Show To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <45EFF0D9.9000400@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:17:44 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at: http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Paul Lawler from the UK. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Bronx Shadows" by Lawler on Ricochet Dream Records. The Vinyl Starter will be from the LP "Time Actor" by Richard Wahnfried on IC Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#mar Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and on the internet. THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, March 10 at 6:00 am. I will continue the special on E-dition Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. Tune in to WMUH Allentown at 91.7 FM, broadcasting from the campus of Muhlenberg College. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. WMUH's web site is http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh ====================================================================== All times are EST / GMT-5. ====================================================================== Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm ====================================================================== Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 11:42:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A76313BEEC; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:42:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001101c76176$dcecf360$0d0ba8c0@AMD01> From: "arcmotion" To: References: <010f01c75ff0$0bc26ef0$0d0ba8c0@AMD01> Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:42:31 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3790.2826 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3790.2826 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68792 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:42:48 +0000 (UTC) had a late answer from roland support in the us regarding the rc50....but i have already let the matter go in my mind....still interesting tho.......he sounds a bit worn down by my questions... "The RC-50 has had a few quirks in its short life. One, a short skip in the audio playback upon using it live to loop, was addressed in an update. These updates come from Japan where the product is designed, developed and manufactured. When they get to the US, they are complete and ready to go on the shelf. If they need fixes, such as the RC-50 needed, it requires us to contact Roland Japan and ask their engineers to stop the development on upcoming products and to turn their attention to developing this software update. Needless to say, it can sometimes be difficult to convince our parent company that they NEED to do something for us. Although we here at Roland US seem like we own and operate the entire Roland world, the real truth is that we are merely distributors of the Roland brand here in the US. We are the Guitar Center that ONLY sells Roland, you could say. Anyhow, long explanations aside, this is the reason behind the "That is the way it works" answer you seem to keep getting. We don't HAVE engineers here in the US that we can tell to "get on it" or to devote to, what we consider, an important update. We don't have a way to fix this problem you are having and it seems that we may not have a way in the near future. We were very lucky to get the one update we did receive and it would seem that there are no more coming down the pipeline. I realize this may be a little disillusioning for you, but I guess sometimes the truth can do that. In the end, if the pedal seems unstable and unusable to you, it may not be the product for you. Again, sorry for the lengthy message, but you seemed to want a rock solid answer. This explanation is literally THE best answer you can get from anyone in the entire US on this product. I hope that this helps answer your request. If you need more assistance in this matter, please either re-submit your support request or contact our Product Support Department at the appropriate number: Digital Recorders and Mixers: 323-890-3741 Guitar/Percussion Products: 323-890-3743 Pianos, Organs, Arrangers: 323-890-3744 Synths/Sound Modules/Groove Products: 323-890-3745 Product Support Main: 323-890-3740 Sincerely, Roland Product Support" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 12:15:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3546F3BEF3; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Mirapoint Webmail Direct 3.7.5a-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20070308071522.CWE62762@ms02.lnh.mail.rcn.net> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 07:15:22 -0500 (EST) X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Resent-Message-ID: <7hhCrB.A.aeG.c5_7FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:15:25 +0000 (UTC) Has anyone performed the RC-50 update? it's v1.01 and 'fixes' the short break before playback. I think I did it correctly, but I get no visual feedback on the LCD display telling me which playback mode I am using. THe choice is Rhythm or Sound Priority. I can't hear any difference. Ron From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 12:33:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A0B213BED2; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:33:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:33:25 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070308123325.204800@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <030520071904.25471.45EC69B4000A3B720000637F2212020784020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> <20070305132727.bhmte1kfhckwc44k@69.89.21.76> <00f101c75faa$92781210$0d0ba8c0@AMD01> Subject: Re: RC-50 Software update question (patch change glitch problem) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19ckoRDOGdcHijwuIixMg8/zfe5uLN37nvoF1+dqQ JoL1I4zvB3qxZ/i3LPDAPAKD8TVIOsOrGOdg== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:33:27 +0000 (UTC) Hi folks Thanks for the Kudos :-) All I did, when I got the unit was to check thoroughly what's in it. I guess I'm so eager to find out since this is my first real hardware looper :-) And there really is so much possible that you don't realize due to the somewhat cumbersome manual & settings. Haven't found a solution to the "PATCH change - glitch problem", though. Again I haven't done the upgrade yet (I'm still reluctant since it is irreversible). This feature would be really very beneficial. I have a friend who uses this feature very effectively on live gigs with the RC-20XL. Best regards Buzap -- Ist Ihr Browser Vista-kompatibel? Jetzt die neuesten Browser-Versionen downloaden: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/browser From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 12:38:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C90C3BF1B; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:38:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Fp0Af/Z4TlVmbctvNVGgdzu9lOOgUI8NwB0e1ZC88xmZq2sLl61xCPLNrcl2zX2pL15Z40B4VlVxtW1HyGVbmFSOzovPP6AwmTekMn/vGQtPwBCnqg24lgWwMMZ/1fQxgmvHu37qSl48oNQNUAuA6sH0kKAKqFrHlBie1xzerbo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=PgusExqBVi1tUdnxkTlyle0WfBlcnvvMzca9slLaPecg4G02ZQj+GeSHImOLuZQGCphxCqFf31nbx3nU3ynqnbgc6j19wFtzNabYajunew0JXqZQQprY16g1c30ptJOpYa8Y7e8xYEoFKW201VodO2JutNsGUnmMVa1vQ2iNk2o= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <640c7553a4fcc8d134b6428b3e516e86@mac.com> References: <640c7553a4fcc8d134b6428b3e516e86@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <3D3C4ABB-1AC5-4BE9-B1C4-C995EF8D6F9A@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: derek bailey Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:38:41 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:38:46 +0000 (UTC) On 8 mar 2007, at 04.45, Paul Mimlitsch wrote: > Thought this might be of interest: > http://www.ubu.com/film/bailey.html Fantastic! Thank you so much! I had not seen those before. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 12:58:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4CEB3BF01; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:58:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.no; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=UuD8kYs4PFN/+tm07C7dm88mJzVrM7SqSiYTjEbx9el1GXMFLSRxDYQozFBwS0SqeA6i3MhR3KR5b6Iau1fivqJ6h4tLhmdQk5Lc8wV6ScwyA/ADH+zWjeiFE0HeaspzcSEzwdAcdfOe7N+px2BDjYJZSfijYI4S9659RS9V6bc=; X-YMail-OSG: 1LBu86cVM1npUbRqh.xGgcnr30j579Jwmg1viam5gv2DQvOh64SdbKAGQlCyJK1GxVxXpz2RLJ48l7hloqI.QvuYTrGi4OBENLRv.AEqlU7D6EveeH0KnwC.A4ZF0svdVXDXCGbcKI.j Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:58:18 +0100 (CET) From: rune fagereng Subject: Re: derek bailey -video on improvisation To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3D3C4ABB-1AC5-4BE9-B1C4-C995EF8D6F9A@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <370507.77413.qm@web26203.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 12:58:19 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! I am just about to sit down and see the movie on impro of Bailey. Great ! I love this things. Do any of you know about links to other movies on topics like; groove - sound - jazz - electronica - looping -music concrete.... best regards Rune F. --- Per Boysen skrev: > On 8 mar 2007, at 04.45, Paul Mimlitsch wrote: > > > Thought this might be of interest: > > http://www.ubu.com/film/bailey.html > > > Fantastic! Thank you so much! I had not seen those > before. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) > > > www.runefagereng.com Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Mob: 917 95 867 _________________________________________________________ Alt i én. Få Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 13:22:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47EF23BEFC; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:22:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [90.196.3.133] X-Originating-Email: [simeonharris@hotmail.com] X-Sender: simeonharris@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <3D3C4ABB-1AC5-4BE9-B1C4-C995EF8D6F9A@gmail.com> From: "simeon harris" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: thanks...and another tune Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 13:22:18 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2007 13:22:19.0994 (UTC) FILETIME=[CC9FA3A0:01C76184] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:22:22 +0000 (UTC) thanks to everyone who sent me link to looping vids...i'm collating them now and they'll be up on my site in the next few days here is a new tune... http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/08_Mar_1644.mp3 quite textural (and loopy) cheers! sim _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail, News, Sport and Entertainment from MSN on your mobile. http://www.msn.txt4content.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 14:39:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2649A3BEEC; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:39:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ms4lrP/mzpogPjTXvvajjqlBGoSgImcG5PUgieiQJzCL5TyzG9HGebPLXI0dBaMxZBHzktLKwt+x0Sot4HGdElgqI8iBelx9iyIHD5PTu0El70Tlv0srqxM/0j2t5sglo6sOdOYogTnTEHqI9sI+QADeONx9B8RXi9E6H1USNvk= ; Message-ID: <20070308143918.46976.qmail@web34313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: FvJ2jgQVM1me55.Z6ylplpeBctipExlnj39WBtKPHUa5gIjkhr0Ht6uEshm2uMWMRTRaLW5W8nBCi5HPNcTM9d8juWZW7soq0lbrUZV5k_SRUgPwe6dlk8DYSbS19AMKdiIiFKMTloB.g3cHJ5guipv6eKubdk8hfZQFhhRpAiej Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 06:39:18 -0800 (PST) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: inaccessability of music To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <00a501c76160$60c92c60$2302a8c0@chris> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1603851905-1173364758=:46467" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:39:20 +0000 (UTC) --0-1603851905-1173364758=:46467 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I played a gig in Toronto about two weeks ago where there the players outnumbered the one person that showed up. After some discussion, we all agreed that the singular form of audience is 'audient'. ted. "Chris@jtc.de" wrote: Hi, this surely is an interesting aspect of music. I also had live-performances with my looping or also with my band Zeitloop where just a few people showed up. It was more than 3 , but even if it was 15 it frustrated me a bit. The question is what you expect from it. Isn´t it worth even playing before just a few guys who came to the concert and are really interested in what you doing. And don´t forget to notice that your live-practising will help you to be more secure, getting better on stage. But I know it´s tough sometimes to keep up the good vibes and don´t care about the attendance. I definetely will listen to this Derek Bailey interview within the next couple days. By the way, check out my music if you like to. As I´m new in this discussion-group I´m not sure if it´s o.k. to do a link at my websites. Maybe no promotion here, mmmhh. But I just do it.... Have a nice day! CHRISTO JOTA www.myspace.com/christojota www.myspace.com/zeitloop ----- Original Message ----- From: RP Collier To: Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 3:52 AM Subject: Re: Allow me to introduce myself... > On Mar 7, 2007, at 5:09 PM, rabbirabbifive wrote: > > > And now a question- I am only a little bothered by the (seeming?) > > inaccessability of my music. Should I be more bothered? > > Can't answer your question since it depends what you want and these > things change over time and often from project to project. > > But it might be worth checking out Derek Bailey interviews for a > perspective on being inaccessible. He talks about giving concerts > where only 3 people show up as audience and 2 of them leave before > half time. > > There are many interviews and profiles of him around, a good place to > start is ubu: > > http://www.ubu.com/sound/bailey.html > > > regards > > > BobC > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/41969054@N00/sets/72157594240725240 > http://tinyurl.com/cr25j > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM8KFMkWiaI > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn--iF6a4Xo > "Indeed, naturally I think that a film should have a beginning, middle, and an end — but not necessarily in that order." Jean Luc Goddard --------------------------------- Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. --0-1603851905-1173364758=:46467 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    I played a gig in Toronto about two weeks ago where there the players outnumbered the one person that showed up.
     
    After some discussion, we all agreed that the singular form of audience is 'audient'.
     
     
    ted.

    "Chris@jtc.de" <chris@jtc.de> wrote:
    Hi,
    this surely is an interesting aspect of music. I also had live-performances
    with my looping
    or also with my band Zeitloop where just a few people showed up. It was more
    than 3 ,
    but even if it was 15 it frustrated me
    a bit. The question is what you expect from it. Isn´t it worth even playing
    before just a few
    guys who came to the concert and are really interested in what you doing.
    And don´t forget
    to notice that your live-practising will help you to be more secure, getting
    better on stage.
    But I know it´s tough sometimes to keep up the good vibes and don´t care
    about the attendance.
    I definetely will listen to this Derek Bailey interview within the next
    couple days.
    By the way, check out my music if you like to. As I´m new in this
    discussion-group I´m not sure
    if it´s o.k. to do a link at my websites. Maybe no promotion here, mmmhh.
    But I just do it....
    Have a nice day!
    CHRISTO JOTA
    www.myspace.com/christojota
    www.myspace.com/zeitloop


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: RP Collier
    To:
    Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 3:52 AM
    Subject: Re: Allow me to introduce myself...


    > On Mar 7, 2007, at 5:09 PM, rabbirabbifive wrote:
    >
    > > And now a question- I am only a little bothered by the (seeming?)
    > > inaccessability of my music. Should I be more bothered?
    >
    > Can't answer your question since it depends what you want and these
    > things change over time and often from project to project.
    >
    > But it might be worth checking out Derek Bailey interviews for a
    > perspective on being inaccessible. He talks about giving concerts
    > where only 3 people show up as audience and 2 of them leave before
    > half time.
    >
    > There are many interviews and profiles of him around, a good place to
    > start is ubu:
    >
    > http://www.ubu.com/sound/bailey.html
    >
    >
    > regards
    >
    >
    > BobC
    >
    >
    >
    > http://www.flickr.com/photos/41969054@N00/sets/72157594240725240
    > http://tinyurl.com/cr25j
    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM8KFMkWiaI
    > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn--iF6a4Xo
    >




    "Indeed, naturally I think that a film should have a beginning, middle, and an end — but not necessarily in that order." Jean Luc Goddard

    Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate
    in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. --0-1603851905-1173364758=:46467-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 15:10:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 326DD3BEF8; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 15:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:reply-to:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:in-reply-to:x-mimeole:message-id; b=cHVmd7CwxyeKivD2O1/XXnMSHLpTKcgPoJ0MLcqfVUed06UklyoSfW8JKpmEpVAY2+BC/DJz1bpqaY3Ba7hn83AXUQr0zbee7lntoK8LzxGPnsP/rDx6hhxCeBkPqz3mD1qJyHEn6DbBhmUpLamysm0NufTWuEHKKC3lLxdtotM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:reply-to:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:in-reply-to:x-mimeole:message-id; b=JcKLziQXLj4O24SWyXj/eGqBVcy3V9eJlJKsRnT+ZACHQoJh7rWRP7CvN0VAa5D7Bso6/0bg88CBPRN366VcWPsE1JNL0fl5v9QbJBIOx9xlmDBwMGC8ioxd+4nCNWcRBTRPNwPHxPDY62jjc1+MZPC+TqtYkRzI7EV2wHuNqgs= Reply-To: From: "Miles Ward" To: Subject: RE: Allow me to introduce myself... Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 07:10:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C76150.DC0A9EF0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcdhL6acnsLAmP5MSuqZyQKzdRG6zQAY1q0Q In-Reply-To: <41a10cf838841cf19d3cd7c4463695fe@glasswing.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Message-ID: <45f02763.1e7f7cd1.6e80.ffffdfda@mx.google.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 15:10:30 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C76150.DC0A9EF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is a good long term reason why .ogg: MP3 isn't free. For eons Fraunhofer has very openly "licensed" MP3 compression and playback technology, but they do so at a cost, and the source code for the central algorithms is patented. In addition, Alcatel-Lucent has started to assert their mutual rights to this original patent that they helped with, to the tune of a 1.35 BILLION dollar lawsuit which they just WON against Microsoft. Certainly this will go to appeal, but in general it's now clear that given the value of this format, inventors are seeking to cash in. Ogg Vorbis (the full name of the compression technology used to create .ogg audio files) is open source and patent free. Free = Good. That being said, .ogg is only playable on a tiny range of hardware and software, and no company has a financial incentive to add .ogg to the files they handle, there's no royalties or business deals or $$$ with .ogg unless zillions of consumers demand support for it. Sucks. -Miles _____ From: Richard Sales [mailto:richard@glasswing.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 7:12 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Allow me to introduce myself... Well... why .ogg? MP3 or MP4s are more accessible. Never ran into .ogg before! Could that explain the inaccessibility of your work? richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 7-Mar-07, at 5:09 PM, rabbirabbifive wrote: Hi all, I have been looping for about 2 years now, 1st with an EDP, then with a Looperlative, and now with Mobius. I make music that most people don't get. [:-(] But I keep doing it [:-)] I recently finished a tribute to Robert Anton Wilson. The tracks (ogg files) are here- http://www.esnips.com/web/13thEye Please feel free to comment, privately or publicly. And now a question- I am only a little bothered by the (seeming?) inaccessability of my music. Should I be more bothered? Not an easy question, but one meant to provoke reflection. -rabbi ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C76150.DC0A9EF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

    There is a good long term reason = why .ogg: MP3 isn’t free.  For eons Fraunhofer has very openly = “licensed” MP3 compression and playback technology, but they do so at a cost, and = the source code for the central algorithms is patented.  In addition, Alcatel-Lucent has started to assert their mutual rights to this = original patent that they helped with, to the tune of a 1.35 BILLION dollar = lawsuit which they just WON against Microsoft.  Certainly this will go to = appeal, but in general it’s now clear that given the value of this format, inventors are seeking to cash in.

     

    Ogg Vorbis (the full name of the compression technology used to create .ogg audio files) is open source = and patent free. Free =3D Good.

     

    That being said, .ogg is only = playable on a tiny range of hardware and software, and no company has a financial = incentive to add .ogg to the files they handle, there’s no royalties or = business deals or $$$ with .ogg unless zillions of consumers demand support for it.  Sucks.

    -Miles

     

    From: = Richard Sales [mailto:richard@glasswing.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, March = 07, 2007 7:12 PM
    To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject: Re: Allow me to = introduce myself...

     

    Well... why = .ogg? MP3 or MP4s are more accessible. Never ran into .ogg before!

    Could that explain the inaccessibility of your work?

    richard sales
    glassWing farm and studio
    vancouver island, b.c.
    800.545.6846
    250.752.4816
    www.glassWing.com
    www.richardsales.com
    www.hayleysales.com
    www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com
    On 7-Mar-07, at 5:09 PM, rabbirabbifive = wrote:

    Hi all, I have = been looping for about 2 years now, 1st with an EDP,
    then with a Looperlative, and now with Mobius. I make music that = most
    people don't get. [:-(] But I keep doing it [:-)] I recently = finished
    a tribute to Robert Anton Wilson. The tracks (ogg files) are here-

    http://www.esnips.com/web/13thEye

    Please feel free to comment, privately or publicly.

    And now a question- I am only a little bothered by the (seeming?)
    inaccessability of my music. Should I be more bothered? Not an easy
    question, but one meant to provoke reflection.

    -rabbi





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    ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C76150.DC0A9EF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 15:39:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DBBBE3BEEC; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 15:39:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=khL7CBehaNUsu4iErsSPWfPRNJSRf1PyaMmX9dEpxHSBdmeuMWkRW7RqTtgw7bAPa7GfEcNU1joghuPjqaEOqHudboDxt9BFAH5bWeB7zxpqn/syjx7dFleK2ozndZtvnaQf8aKFYDkfnY5piJ4NTYfmnN6TPjpJonaaqQUAVfw=; X-YMail-OSG: bi16PygVM1kHYJUY31rGHwXxm9JfkYdrS1RjVM8srXmaxJFqbPPKJ5eUGdAfJdpi7Q-- Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 07:39:04 -0800 (PST) From: DrXparaMental Subject: One Question Please & Some Thoughts On Accessibility To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-222944694-1173368344=:15422" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <182117.15422.qm@web59007.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 15:39:07 +0000 (UTC) --0-222944694-1173368344=:15422 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit #1 Is it possible to access a Loopers Delight posted message archive? In one day I have found enough projected post remnants with respect to original topic information put forth prior to my joining LD, that it would be cool to go "back" and dig through these from start to finish. If accessibility can be equated to popular or attraction based acceptability, I found out too long ago, you might as well count me out. Isn't it this projected self ideal as manifest within our artistic format of "oneness" that makes us who we are? To me, the world of experimental music with respect to technique and construction is like an open door through which the self's non-linear *eigenvalue has no choice but to come fourth. It's "forced" to do so by the specific path we have come to choose. We really can't expect others by merit of social recognition, let alone sonic appreciation, to truly identify with what we're doing as stand alone entertainment. The element within what we have chosen to musically undertake, that we ourselves by nature of our continually morphing muse are most attracted to, is mostly based on it's unpredictable interpretation and outcome. One would have to be able to control too many factors within the experience of our performances to insure accessibility for the average listener. Diversity is a powerful tool with respect to experimental music presentation. Most people's minds simply cannot handle what we on this artistic path have come to take, not so much for granted, but rather as an "acceptable" art form. They need a "guide" Looking around to the high profile (yeah right) figures within this artistic scheme it seems we find one of two types of "players" with respect to the guided approach. They either buffer and market what they personally strive for via their artistic pursuits/projects by means of self identification (name recognition) or media application (film). That is NOT to say however that the aforementioned 2 types of guides are by any means limited to the two examples given. I would have to say that if the mind were to be brought to bare, with respect to our incredible powers of imagination, on the diverse effective marketing of our unique artistry, we may in fact achieve accessibility on our own terms. DrXPM * A statistic that quantifies variation in a group of variables and its accountability by a particular factor --------------------------------- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. --0-222944694-1173368344=:15422 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    #1 Is it possible to access a Loopers Delight posted message archive? In one day I have found enough projected post remnants with respect to original topic information put forth prior to my joining LD, that it would be cool to go "back" and dig through these from start to finish.
     
    If accessibility can be equated to popular or attraction based acceptability, I found out too long ago, you might as well count me out. Isn't it this projected self ideal as manifest within our artistic format of "oneness" that makes us who we are?
     
    To me, the world of experimental music with respect to technique and construction is like an open door through which the self's non-linear *eigenvalue has no choice but to come fourth. It's "forced" to do so by the specific path we have come to choose. We really can't expect others by merit of social recognition, let alone sonic appreciation, to truly identify with what we're doing as stand alone entertainment. The element within what we have chosen to musically undertake, that we ourselves by nature of our continually morphing muse are most attracted to, is mostly based on it's unpredictable interpretation and outcome.
     
    One would have to be able to control too many factors within the experience of our performances to insure accessibility for the average listener. Diversity is a powerful tool with respect to experimental music presentation. Most people's minds simply cannot handle what we on this artistic path have come to take, not so much for granted, but rather as an "acceptable" art form. They need a "guide"
     
    Looking around to the high profile (yeah right) figures within this artistic scheme it seems we find one of two types of "players" with respect to the guided approach. They either buffer and market what they personally strive for via their artistic pursuits/projects by means of self identification (name recognition) or media application (film). That is NOT to say however that the aforementioned 2 types of guides are by any means limited to the two examples given.  
     
    I would have to say that if the mind were to be brought to bare, with respect to our incredible powers of imagination, on the diverse effective marketing of our unique artistry, we may in fact achieve accessibility on our own terms.
     
    DrXPM
     
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    -------------------------------1173368929-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 16:13:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5EB33BEFA; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20070308112001.0289c148@sympatico.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 11:20:15 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Smart Subject: Re: inaccessability of music In-Reply-To: <20070308143918.46976.qmail@web34313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <00a501c76160$60c92c60$2302a8c0@chris> <20070308143918.46976.qmail@web34313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-4416CF4 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:13:00 +0000 (UTC) At 09:39 AM 3/8/2007, you wrote: >I played a gig in Toronto about two weeks ago where there the >players outnumbered the one person that showed up. > >After some discussion, we all agreed that the singular form of >audience is 'audient'. *LOL* Did you just invite him'her up to participate? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: 3/8/2007 10:58 AM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 17:15:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D59463BEE1; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:15:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=c9qEk+f0mlUtNVRwLYMj5IebGFShGyxH5PBAB0cRcu1NKK3jebw0ksOBVGAU8nAm7yheCjLY5TdqBO0DE4KGDts1bhWMWAbUy9c5SMV4b7eeUJbvDTUhb6zAty7rJzSeiQ+dS5E9l+D74ESZORpgu9Ad8SDHJ2RFYuH3jvLtA4I= ; Message-ID: <20070308171515.6883.qmail@web34313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: fV0a9wgVM1k10t4_ot8Pf_fKIV0ZmZmrhFcNuZ9PGIxxyD2EXCuEC37CQFMoH.dfvogHH_rr.JRH4aPCnvPgfKQ1tEkc4H32s6kWoc5ybgyRkEVEpOipAeYHALeHsRjYjwj.G6Pd79B74LiVOK8Vs2.f1A-- Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:15:15 -0800 (PST) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: inaccessability of music To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20070308112001.0289c148@sympatico.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1625149117-1173374115=:5370" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68804 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:15:17 +0000 (UTC) --0-1625149117-1173374115=:5370 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit No, but we should've! Of course, given that it was improv/free/creative music (read: non-commerical) gig, I don't think anybody would've objected if he did... ted. Chris Smart wrote: At 09:39 AM 3/8/2007, you wrote: >I played a gig in Toronto about two weeks ago where there the >players outnumbered the one person that showed up. > >After some discussion, we all agreed that the singular form of >audience is 'audient'. *LOL* Did you just invite him'her up to participate? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: 3/8/2007 10:58 AM "Indeed, naturally I think that a film should have a beginning, middle, and an end — but not necessarily in that order." Jean Luc Goddard --------------------------------- 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. --0-1625149117-1173374115=:5370 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    No, but we should've!
     
    Of course, given that it was improv/free/creative music (read: non-commerical) gig, I don't think anybody would've objected if he did...
     
     
    ted.


    Chris Smart <chris_s@sympatico.ca> wrote:
    At 09:39 AM 3/8/2007, you wrote:

    >I played a gig in Toronto about two weeks ago where there the
    >players outnumbered the one person that showed up.
    >
    >After some discussion, we all agreed that the singular form of
    >audience is 'audient'.

    *LOL* Did you just invite him'her up to participate?


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    with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. --0-1625149117-1173374115=:5370-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 17:24:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE9773BF01; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:24:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=YwIYO+8ArKpt3HgtBRolMezKlwc2RxqVVCoFQpHTNXFMZTjHuM8EJ5Mo7Ifg//uRD4xvePeUKuIDaAPunRL8CNo4EqvGr50z6C7kRXHxoc9SZO/TVKsmnEibjy7qQK6N2xynd7HU6Je3awQgkASz46C9IQw2QRLu2LZu1TEUBGA=; X-YMail-OSG: Mp.SFHsVM1l.nFkVGsWh2JKyuM.dB8KFyXctIIQFeHToZg6bdd4nhCiCdko1KxxGtQ-- Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 09:24:09 -0800 (PST) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: derek bailey To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <640c7553a4fcc8d134b6428b3e516e86@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-657895354-1173374649=:33143" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <541775.33143.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68805 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:24:11 +0000 (UTC) --0-657895354-1173374649=:33143 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ...and don't forget that Derek wrote a wonderful book called 'improvisation - its nature and practice in music'. The first chunk is him interviewing people on improvisation in different genres (classical, raga, etc.) and the last few chapters is him talking about his own experiences and thoughts on improvisation. It's based on a tv series he did for BBC; I emailed BBC about them putting the show out on dvd but they said they had no plans to do so. It's a great book and highly recommended for anybody that is interested in non-idiomatic playing. (That's Derek's term for his style of playing - he didn't like the term 'free jazz'. I don't much care for the term either but it's the term that most people recognize...) For more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derek_Bailey ted. Paul Mimlitsch wrote: Thought this might be of interest: http://www.ubu.com/film/bailey.html - Paul "Indeed, naturally I think that a film should have a beginning, middle, and an end — but not necessarily in that order." Jean Luc Goddard --------------------------------- It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. --0-657895354-1173374649=:33143 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    ...and don't forget that Derek wrote a wonderful book called 'improvisation -  its nature and practice in music'.
     
    The first chunk is him interviewing people on improvisation in different genres (classical, raga, etc.) and the last few chapters is him talking about his own experiences and thoughts on improvisation.  It's based on a tv series he did for BBC; I emailed BBC about them putting the show out on dvd but they said they had no plans to do so.
     
    It's a great book and highly recommended for anybody that is interested in non-idiomatic playing.  (That's Derek's term for his style of playing - he didn't like the term 'free jazz'.  I don't much care for the term either but it's the term that most people recognize...)
     
     
     
    ted.


    Paul Mimlitsch <pmimlitsch@mac.com> wrote:
    Thought this might be of interest:

    http://www.ubu.com/film/bailey.html


    - Paul




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If I'm not mistaken, I thought I heard a bit of LaFosse influence in there, must be the EDP functions and your use of them. Again, incredible stuff, sounds like I'd better save my pennies and get an EDP, because after hearing that, sounds like nothing else will do. How did you run the wah pedal? It sounds like a filter instead of a regular wah sound, like you ran it through an effects loop rather than pre input, well being that you were probably miked, that's about the only way to do it. My current pedalboard has two wahs on it one is post preamp for that filtery sound. When I finally can immerse myself into looping, I thought about the possibility to use loopers throughout my chain, for instance, one up front, so that my effects can process the loop, and then one in back to capture it for layering of tracks. How do you run your chain for your set up? --- Per Boysen wrote: > On 8 mar 2007, at 07.47, Brian Kupferschmid wrote: > > > That was very guitar-like. I have also heard some > of > > your other looping with the sax(EWI also?),0 > > > No, that's my tenor sax. A 1914 silver Conn with a > nine star Otto > Link mouthpiece armed with a soft fibracell reed > (plastic coated > bamboo). Gives a tone I like, but is a bit hard to > play. Not for > playing in a big band but great for improvised music > where you can > set the pace according to how much you're lip > muscles can put up with > before you loose the ability of correct intonation. > > > very good > > stuff indeed. Have you ever tried to use the > looper > > to make chord progressions by layering note of a > chord > > on top of each other with your sax? > > > Yes. I actually thought that was what you had heard > me doing in those > live looping releases ;-) > The first time on record where I used that looping > technique was this > tune: http://www.looproom.com/aol/01_Patterns.mp3 > where I played sax > (through a wha pedal) into an EDP and ran the EDP > output (the loops) > through different effects. While playing the lead > sax line I > overdubbed accurate notes (not all) into three loops > to form three > different chords that I could step between with foot > pedals. So you > could say that the harmony voicing of those three > chords grew thicker > the longer the lead sax line had been going. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) > > > > > > --- Per Boysen wrote: > > > >> Well, since I'm originally a guitar player it > came > >> out rather > >> "guitarrish" as I played the EWI though the > guitar > >> rig. As for the > >> vision, the phrasing and intonation I guess you > >> could say that "it is > >> guitar", but in a strictly technical sense I was > >> using the EWI to > >> "play guitar". Glad you liked the stuff, because > I > >> was amazed myself. > >> I'm pretty new to playing the EWI and I kind of > get > >> the same feeling > >> for it as for my old Strat set up with floating > >> whammy. I used the > >> EWI's built-in synth here, but you can also use > it > >> to drive some > >> other synth or sampler via MIDI. And looping of > >> course done in Mobius > >> by feet while playing. > >> > >> per > >> > >> On 7 mar 2007, at 18.53, Brian Kupferschmid > wrote: > >> > >>> Dude, is that guitar or synth? I like some of > >> those > >>> growling sounds, how do you do that? > >>> --- Per Boysen wrote: > >>> > >>>> Humbly posting a clip of todays live looping > >>>> practice, if anyone > >>>> cares to listen: > >>>> http://www.looproom.com/audio/abc.mp3 > >>>> > >>>> per > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 18:26:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 547C63BEF8; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 18:26:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: midifriedchicken@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: I seek help/most believe I am beyond (loop related) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 18:26:26 +0000 Message-Id: <030820071826.5914.45F055520009B7E40000171A2212020784020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWlkaWZyaWVkY2hpY2tlbkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_5914_1173378386_0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68807 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 18:26:29 +0000 (UTC) --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_5914_1173378386_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Man, I wish you guys were in Connecticut. I have zero people around me that even know what Im talking about sometimes. Im working on a project right now thats a solo by default. I wish it were a duo or trio. It's going to consist of an evening's worth of music. Set one will start out with your basic Acoustic gig, kinda happy-houresque. Some covers, some originals. Gradually adding live loops via Ableton and an Echoplex. As the first set goes on, more sounds are introduced. A bassline here, a synth pad there. Very much what you see everywhere these days. First set will blend into some downtempo electronic stuff on an ipod. Second set will start much like the first set ended. But as the set goes on, even more sounds and textures will be introduced. This is going to be very much like what you hear on Sirius Channel 35. Downtempo electronica using effected guitar, prerecorded loops, software synths and samplers and vocals. Ableton live via a FCB1010 and an Oxygen midi controller will be the main tools. Along with a Strat or a Taylor going through a Pod Live XT and an Echoplex. Set 3 will again be a continuation of set 2. This will gradually give way to an actual laptop DJ set with occasional intruments thrown in. This looks to be a very creative and lucrative venture that I hope to up and running by summer. But like I said, I explain this people and thay look at me like im crazy MFC -------------- Original message -------------- From: mark sottilaro > --- DrXparaMental wrote: > > > Currently I am using Ableton's LIVE 5.2.2 & Stylus > > RMX. Are there other PC soft loop programs that are > > recommended "here"? > > Here? You mean in my cube at work? Are you here with > me? > > I'm using a similar setup but I augment Ableton's > looping with Mobius (an amazing free software looper > based on the Echoplex Digital Pro x 16) and sometimes > angstromloop or ELOTTRONIX XL. That's all on the XP > side. On the Mac OSX side the pick'ns are slim, but > Augustus Loop is a fine software looper. I'd bring up > PSP42 but it's loop time is too short to be useful in > my world. Not worth the money IMO. There's this too: > > http://www.loopersdelight.com/tools/tools.html > > > > > My objectives are live performance oriented. The > > hardware I am hoping to incorporate into these > > performances are Bass/V Bass/Korg MS2000B/Boss > > RC-50/Laptop/Motu Traveler/Axiom 49 controller & > > midi foot controller/16 channel mixer. > > Sounds like the making of a great loop setup. > Welcome. > > Mark > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________ > ____ > It's here! Your new message! > Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_5914_1173378386_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
     
    Man, I wish you guys were in Connecticut. I have zero people around me that even know what Im talking about sometimes. Im working on a project right now thats a solo by default. I wish it were a duo or trio.
    It's going to consist of an evening's worth of music. Set one will start out with your basic Acoustic gig, kinda happy-houresque. Some covers, some originals. Gradually adding live loops via Ableton and an Echoplex. As the first set goes on, more sounds are introduced. A bassline here, a synth pad there. Very much what you see everywhere these days. First set will blend into some downtempo electronic stuff on an ipod.
    Second set will start much like the first set ended. But as the set goes on, even more sounds and textures will be introduced. This is going to be very much like what you hear on Sirius Channel 35. Downtempo electronica using effected guitar, prerecorded loops, software synths and samplers and vocals.
    Ableton live via a FCB1010 and an Oxygen midi controller will be the main tools. Along with a Strat or a Taylor going through a Pod Live XT and an Echoplex.
    Set 3 will again be a continuation of set 2. This will gradually give way to an actual laptop DJ set with occasional intruments thrown in.
    This looks to be a very creative and lucrative venture that I hope to up and running by summer.
    But like I said, I explain this people and thay look at me like im crazy
     
    MFC
     
     
     
     
    -------------- Original message --------------
    From: mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com>

    > --- DrXparaMental wrote:
    >
    > > Currently I am using Ableton's LIVE 5.2.2 & Stylus
    > > RMX. Are there other PC soft loop programs that are
    > > recommended "here"?
    >
    > Here? You mean in my cube at work? Are you here with
    > me?
    >
    > I'm using a similar setup but I augment Ableton's
    > looping with Mobius (an amazing free software looper
    > based on the Echoplex Digital Pro x 16) and sometimes
    > angstromloop or ELOTTRONIX XL. That's all on the XP
    > side. On the Mac OSX side the pick'ns are slim, but
    > Augustus Loop is a fine software looper. I'd bring up
    > PSP42 but it's loop time is too short to be useful in
    > my world. Not worth the mo ney IMO. There's this too:
    >
    > http://www.loopersdelight.com/tools/tools.html
    >
    > >
    > > My objectives are live performance oriented. The
    > > hardware I am hoping to incorporate into these
    > > performances are Bass/V Bass/Korg MS2000B/Boss
    > > RC-50/Laptop/Motu Traveler/Axiom 49 controller &
    > > midi foot controller/16 channel mixer.
    >
    > Sounds like the making of a great loop setup.
    > Welcome.
    >
    > Mark
    >
    >
    >
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    --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_5914_1173378386_0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 18:50:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0019F3BF19; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 18:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=tUSxBr0q91OGNUp5rB7K7xz4YGwRhjc42f9275EOHxHozBadQ6rUY11PjEceyDArlET26dJzNAj/53J1k3WWJSF2nC1/dwWE9Zx/Viyki5OiLSUbPDclg7TLS3wdCfA+5FcS7wAregqN2b5hyqucNmfALWRLj5zTt+f7p3D5G+E=; X-YMail-OSG: L_.TJyoVM1niQCpdjjUChEQx3e2m7eMLbfiFu71ha57h9AnLQUoOLGtZK.XnAd5YViBhSCkdA2TxCU42d5kF8THb1DpTKNVqi7WutUUSUd1e5dL0fBpgQ_uzx_IQI9ecotyIO9W39Ink_N9uZO3hD3sHkeDklVu3mGRpDuNrMYKSvg-- Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 10:50:41 -0800 (PST) From: rabbirabbifive Subject: Re: inaccessability of music To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <723486.92463.qm@web60324.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 18:50:42 +0000 (UTC) >I played a gig in Toronto about two weeks ago where there the players >outnumbered the one person that showed up. >After some discussion, we all agreed that the singular form of audience >is 'audient'. >ted. I once played a gig for literally no (paying) audience- just the other people on the bill, the promoter, and the guy behind the bar. The promoter was the only one really upset of all of us. We played, had fun, and talked the promoter into joining us on percussion. Not a problem. By "accessability" (or the lack of it) in my last post I guess I meant that blank stare when they pop the CD in, followed by it's removal at the earliest possible polite opportunity. Not giving the unusual or seemingly dissonant a chance to sink in. Lack of attention span, mabye. My music needs quiet attention to work, so I've already got two strikes against me before I start. I could try doing a "hook" piece to suck people in, but that's like feeding people Ice Cream and than switching to Kimchee. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 18:59:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 615BE3BEFA; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 18:59:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=L8rQ9no9x80+GgD59f5dwlO80/ZNeQBm3BA/+EH1Qi8yXHy09AatDWkCqd7Zr+6N+iXwEl1hIm4saRkGv4izeTnbJCKtvvggAt6KkEXz+eQ4jmTo7AMkmGT2s/gkb8URzQaVAHrCPs/75jpUtKO21//AlMXZ+drMSDHovYTJQs8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=s1liFGEMSeJrnK1etZ6HoWAI56+GPDjELIe/UxAirmcGH7z+cTMgJr4c15iLnkqHN8clHv8eKBri4+K14KIvpUeRaHbY1/hz5Z7OPZx12GEh38f4Mig/GSvNZmdt0XbTx1rblKqhOnkPfJkwyJs954Lx2aY/JP3avqWA1URtOkw= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20070308173622.9576.qmail@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070308173622.9576.qmail@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <8EEAA622-065A-4427-9BC8-A4825259605A@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: mp3 clip posted Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:59:13 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 18:59:19 +0000 (UTC) > http://www.looproom.com/aol/01_Patterns.mp3 On 8 mar 2007, at 18.36, Brian Kupferschmid wrote: > I noticed that, I also was caught up in the beat. If > I'm not mistaken, I thought I heard a bit of LaFosse > influence in there, must be the EDP functions and your > use of them. Again, incredible stuff, sounds like > I'd better save my pennies and get an EDP, because > after hearing that, sounds like nothing else will do. > How did you run the wah pedal? It sounds like a > filter instead of a regular wah sound, like you ran it > through an effects loop rather than pre input, well > being that you were probably miked, that's about the > only way to do it. My current pedalboard has two wahs > on it one is post preamp for that filtery sound. When > I finally can immerse myself into looping, I thought > about the possibility to use loopers throughout my > chain, for instance, one up front, so that my effects > can process the loop, and then one in back to capture > it for layering of tracks. How do you run your chain > for your set up? You're asking how I'm running my chain for "my set up", but fact is =20 that the "Patterns" piece was not produced with the live concert set =20 up I'm using today (I use a couple, actually), so I need to deal with =20= the questions on at a time. This "Patterns" was a live looping EDP =20 improvisation that were recorded in a studio. That environment gives =20 you more control than performing live on stage. The studio routing =20 was as this: - Sax mic were split into two parallel lines. - One sax signal going into one track on a multitrack recorder (Logic =20= Pro on a computer with many audio inputs). - Another sax signal going into the EDP. - The EDP loop output going into another track on the multitrack =20 recorder. - The tempo set in Logic and the EDP syncing by MIDI clock. - A Behringer FCB1010 MIDI pedal board was used for controlling the EDP. - A software wha pedal simulation was opened on the Logic track where =20= the direct sax was recorded (so the wha would not affect the audio =20 looped on the EDP). I used the FCB1010's expression pedal to work =20 that wha filter (yes, you are correct that I set it more as a filter =20 than as the usual Cry Baby or Vox wha simulation patches. Ok, those were the routings. So when playing I recorded two mono =20 tracks: direct sax signal and EDP loops. Two other tracks were =20 already recorded: Speach and percussion. I was listening to these as =20 guidance for my improvisation. Functions used in the EDP were =20 Overdub, SUSSubstitute (I guess that is the character you have heard =20 in Andr=E9 LaFosse music), Speed and direct addressing of the three = loops. Finally, the recorded track of the EDP loops were split up in Logic =20 to enter many different dynamic filterbanks. As I remember a bunch of =20= Ohmforce Quadfrohmage. The pad like sound (where the sax is going for =20= a long note and the percussion stops) was created in the mix by =20 sending the sax signal (not the EDP looping) through some Cycling74 =20 Pluggo effects (Rye and SpeedShifter, I think). So the effect processing were not done all the way at the moment of =20 playing the looper and instrument. ----------------- > How do you run your chain > for your set up? If that addresses a live concert set up (guessing so because you =20 mentioned your two wha pedal live setup) I'm doing it much more =20 simple these days. Instrument going into an effect processor going =20 into a laptop going into an analog stereo compressor going into the =20 PA system. The laptop is loaded with Mobius (which in essence is a =20 bunch of virtual stereo EDPs with a lot added functionality) and a =20 little bit of reverb added to the looper output. Mobius is picking up =20= the tempo I play in (by the length of the first loop I make) and also =20= sending out MIDI Clock to my effect processor (so I can sync or =20 desync delays and rhythmical filtering etc). I like this set up =20 because it works well with flute, sax, guitar and EWI played with the =20= built-in sounds. The http://www.looproom.com/audio/abc.mp3 though was not done on that =20= set up but on the laptop only, running Guitar Rig 2 into Mobius. I =20 don't like the sound of Guitar Rig 2 so I don't think I will use it =20 more. A third se up is playing MIDI with an EWI into Logic on one laptop =20 and looping it in Mobius on a second laptop. I think I will use that =20 a lot in the future. Then there are all kind occasional systems mocked up by EDP and MIDI =20 synchronizable analog filterbank, but I only use them in the studio =20 (when I need some special sound) because they are too heavy to =20 transport to gigs. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 19:36:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96F343BF0B; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:36:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=m27sBYsHutZ9Ec+KIDwqToS+m2Dn0d0DVGMpwmPutLnPdl49VPqaLEfn9n3Nd8Iti79FpP14ceQZyw4BgCgREXvSvZOHKtktvGxNufiqDLZjm7pwINVqABHun4t4lRVa7KmO3RW7xW0jdwKtszKbkiJCh7fOAPNQo87fYsbtzZQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=dtA2SjiGOL0EbJWQbxlv5ZnWNrIzr5a9Pgpi1M297s3NA+y4gfsYi96GtZxok7Hnx+X7aE8HTD/CawKR36PhV5SNkvpUIY75Cv1V6/llRgp5GmBQXk5nrx3VzKnAELvN7fYMYIgDYDutanNUFGL9WbuF/hcQoKokt9U1C+1IWjc= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:36:18 -0500 From: "radio radio" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looping pedal with decay? In-Reply-To: <56432.167.83.10.20.1172595103.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_227934_1509486.1173382578899" References: <444811.64669.qm@web34310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <56432.167.83.10.20.1172595103.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> Resent-Message-ID: <7R9Sb.A._PH.1WG8FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:36:21 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_227934_1509486.1173382578899 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline thanks for the replies! I think the Gibson EDP is out of my price range, unless I can find a rediculous deal on one on Ebay, but I am glad to know that that the Boomerang does have a decay - I did not realize that. Right now that may look like the best option, although I am a bit wary of the noise that many reviewers report as my rig is already quite noisey. Another person recommended the Electro Harmonix 2880 or their 16 second delay (and mentioned that the original lexicon jamman and the electrix repeater also had a function to set the feedback). I'm glad to know that I what I want does indeed exist and for the help in narrowing it down. Now I can return the looper I bought that I thought had a set-able feedback but does not (digitech jamman). In looking at these other ones, I can't tell which ones accept more than one type of input (e.g., instrument, mic, and line levels). I would want at least the ability to use an instrument and a mic, although I wouldn't necessarily need to be able to do both simultaneously, so long as I got quick at switching. Does anyone else out there want to weigh in on this issue before I spend the money I don't have? The quest is for a looping pedal that takes both instrument level and line level and which you can set the feedback for the loops (versus having them loop infinitely). I currently do not have any rack equipment, is that a bridge I want to cross? Is there anything else I should be considering in a addition? The ones mentioned so far are: Gibson Echoplex Boomerang plus Electro-Harmonix 2820 Electro-Harmonix 16 second delay Original Lexicon Jamman Electrix Repeater ????????????????????????????? THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eben On 2/27/07, mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > > If I read you correctly, the Gibson EDP does what you want and tons more! > I upgraded from a Boomerang plus which does have the decay but you pick it > ahead of time (i.e. 20 reps, 10, 1 or infinite I beleive) > > my 2 cents... > > Plish > > www.myspace.com/michaelplishka > www.myspace.com/bohdanovich > www.michaelplishka.com > > > The only things that I know of that will do what you > > describe are delay pedals. I think the Giga delay > > would be your best bet, but I'd also read somewhere > > that this one artist(I can't remebmer his name) uses > > Eventide rack mount processors set up with an > > algorhythm that was set with a 95% feedback so that > > his loops would decay over time. That sounds more like > > what you want, but that stuff is way expensive. Other > > than that, sounds like all you need is a digital delay > > unit with copious anmounts of time and to be able to > > set the feedback setting as needed to make the loops > > decay over time. > > --- radio radio wrote: > > > >> I want to buy a pedal and get into looping but am > >> having trouble > >> figuring out which one will best meet my needs (and > >> budget). I've > >> learned a LOT from this web site, but still can't > >> quite figure out > >> everything and would really benefit from a human > >> (albeit > >> computer-mediated) interaction. Thanks in advance > >> for taking the time > >> to read this and respond - I hope that I will be > >> able to "give back" > >> some day when I know something worth while. Until > >> then, I guess I > >> should donate to this site if I get any responses. > >> > >> From what I've read and thought about, it looks like > >> what will be the > >> most important distinction for me is that the loops > >> will be able to > >> decay. In other words, you can lay down a loop, lay > >> down another one > >> on top, and then another, and so on, and eventually > >> the first one dies > >> out, then the second one, and so on. I imagine this > >> working like a > >> delay pedal in which you can set the decay (or is > >> that called > >> feedback?). So you could "morph" over time into new > >> things, without > >> being stuck with your original loops, and without > >> having to open a new > >> loop and start from scratch with only one new track > >> each time you > >> wanted to change it up. > >> > >> The three pedals I've looked into are: > >> > >> BOSS RC20xl, Digitech Jamman, and BOSS DD-20 giga > >> delay > >> > >> I thought the BOSS was it, but now I'm thinking that > >> it doesn't allow > >> this thing that I described. I can't tell if you can > >> do this with the > >> Jamman or not - does anyone know? You could do this > >> with the DD-20, > >> but I can't tell if you'd be able to set a > >> loop/delay time up with > >> your foot or not (versus having to set it to a > >> certain number of > >> seconds and then hope you can keep your riff to that > >> length) or if > >> there would be other difficulties that I'm not aware > >> of if you're > >> using this as a looping pedal when it's built to be > >> a delay. > >> > >> Should I be considering a different pedal? I don't > >> really need a delay > >> pedal - I want a loop pedal that decays. I don't > >> really need to be > >> able to save my loops - I just want to be able to > >> set them up on the > >> fly. I don't need to be able to save them on my > >> computer. I don't need > >> to be able to plug in a separate mic or instrument > >> in addition to the > >> guitar, although that would be a definite bonus for > >> me. I don't need a > >> long amount of time - I'm guessing 23 seconds is > >> plenty. I don't know > >> if I need the ability to set up separate loops or > >> not - I certainly > >> wouldn't mind, but I don't know enough about using a > >> looper yet to > >> know about that. Also, how important is > >> 'auto-quanitze'? Lastly, I > >> don't have a lot of money to spend, so the echoplex > >> is right out. The > >> boomerang is also too expensive, and anyway I'm > >> affraid of the noise > >> issues that people have written about with that one. > >> I haven't really > >> learned about any other pedals out there. > >> > >> Thanks again! > >> Eben > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. > > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail > > > > > > ------=_Part_227934_1509486.1173382578899 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline thanks for the replies! I think the Gibson EDP is out of my price range, unless I can find a rediculous deal on one on Ebay, but I am glad to know that that the Boomerang does have a decay - I did not realize that. Right now that may look like the best option, although I am a bit wary of the noise that many reviewers report as my rig is already quite noisey. Another person recommended the Electro Harmonix 2880 or their 16 second delay (and mentioned that the original lexicon jamman and the electrix repeater also had a function to set the feedback). I'm glad to know that I what I want does indeed exist and for the help in narrowing it down. Now I can return the looper I bought that I thought had a set-able feedback but does not (digitech jamman). In looking at these other ones, I can't tell which ones accept more than one type of input ( e.g., instrument, mic, and line levels). I would want at least the ability to use an instrument and a mic, although I wouldn't necessarily need to be able to do both simultaneously, so long as I got quick at switching.

    Does anyone else out there want to weigh in on this issue before I spend the money I don't have? The quest is for a looping pedal that takes both instrument level and line level and which you can set the feedback for the loops (versus having them loop infinitely). I currently do not have any rack equipment, is that a bridge I want to cross? Is there anything else I should be considering in a addition?

    The ones mentioned so far are:

    Gibson Echoplex
    Boomerang plus
    Electro-Harmonix 2820
    Electro-Harmonix 16 second delay
    Original Lexicon Jamman
    Electrix Repeater

    ?????????????????????????????
    THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Eben

    On 2/27/07, mike@michaelplishka.com <mike@michaelplishka.com> wrote:
    If I read you correctly, the Gibson EDP does what you want and tons more!
    I upgraded from a Boomerang plus which does have the decay but you pick it
    ahead of time (i.e. 20 reps, 10, 1 or infinite I beleive)

    my 2 cents...

    Plish

    www.myspace.com/michaelplishka
    www.myspace.com/bohdanovich
    www.michaelplishka.com

    > The only things that I know of that will do what you
    > describe are delay pedals.  I think the Giga delay
    > would be your best bet, but I'd also read somewhere
    > that this one artist(I can't remebmer his name) uses
    > Eventide rack mount processors set up with an
    > algorhythm that was set with a 95% feedback so that
    > his loops would decay over time. That sounds more like
    > what you want, but that stuff is way expensive.  Other
    > than that, sounds like all you need is a digital delay
    > unit with copious anmounts of time and to be able to
    > set the  feedback setting as needed to make the loops
    > decay over time.
    > --- radio radio <radiotelevision@gmail.com > wrote:
    >
    >> I want to buy a pedal and get into looping but am
    >> having trouble
    >> figuring out which one will best meet my needs (and
    >> budget). I've
    >> learned a LOT from this web site, but still can't
    >> quite figure out
    >> everything and would really benefit from a human
    >> (albeit
    >> computer-mediated) interaction. Thanks in advance
    >> for taking the time
    >> to read this and respond - I hope that I will be
    >> able to "give back"
    >> some day when I know something worth while. Until
    >> then, I guess I
    >> should donate to this site if I get any responses.
    >>
    >> From what I've read and thought about, it looks like
    >> what will be the
    >> most important distinction for me is that the loops
    >> will be able to
    >> decay. In other words, you can lay down a loop, lay
    >> down another one
    >> on top, and then another, and so on, and eventually
    >> the first one dies
    >> out, then the second one, and so on. I imagine this
    >> working like a
    >> delay pedal in which you can set the decay (or is
    >> that called
    >> feedback?). So you could "morph" over time into new
    >> things, without
    >> being stuck with your original loops, and without
    >> having to open a new
    >> loop and start from scratch with only one new track
    >> each time  you
    >> wanted to change it up.
    >>
    >> The three pedals I've looked into are:
    >>
    >> BOSS RC20xl, Digitech Jamman, and BOSS DD-20 giga
    >> delay
    >>
    >> I thought the BOSS was it, but now I'm thinking that
    >> it doesn't allow
    >> this thing that I described. I can't tell if you can
    >> do this with the
    >> Jamman or not - does anyone know? You could do this
    >> with the DD-20,
    >> but I can't tell if you'd be able to set a
    >> loop/delay time up with
    >> your foot or not (versus having to set it to a
    >> certain number of
    >> seconds and then hope you can keep your riff to that
    >> length) or if
    >> there would be other difficulties that I'm not aware
    >> of if you're
    >> using this as a looping pedal when it's built to be
    >> a delay.
    >>
    >> Should I be considering a different pedal? I don't
    >> really need a delay
    >> pedal - I want a loop pedal that decays. I don't
    >> really need to be
    >> able to save my loops - I just want to be able to
    >> set them up on the
    >> fly. I don't need to be able to save them on my
    >> computer. I don't need
    >> to be able to plug in a separate mic or instrument
    >> in addition to the
    >> guitar, although that would be a definite bonus for
    >> me. I don't need a
    >> long amount of time - I'm guessing 23 seconds is
    >> plenty. I don't know
    >> if I need the ability to set up separate loops or
    >> not - I certainly
    >> wouldn't mind, but I don't know enough about using a
    >> looper yet to
    >> know about that. Also, how important is
    >> 'auto-quanitze'? Lastly, I
    >> don't have a lot of money to spend, so the echoplex
    >> is right out. The
    >> boomerang is also too expensive, and anyway I'm
    >> affraid of the noise
    >> issues that people have written about with that one.
    >> I haven't really
    >> learned about any other pedals out there.
    >>
    >> Thanks again!
    >> Eben
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > ____________________________________________________________________________________
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    > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.
    > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail
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    ------=_Part_227934_1509486.1173382578899-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 19:48:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65D993BF20; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=A+WGhZKBMRBAyk4RHPsGHBghARKpJQ8Y2fuk0/ZJm3a2zx9ivesLghdWPPwu75Cw2omwi46/gnmip68Wg9qLnuP0R0xObqNpn3+1YxPseMs/d8mBsFBcakXSyeIw6cebAo9N5Zo5wCit5DI6H+65M4F1JQ1IJ7/fZV+Pmiu0N0w= ; Message-ID: <20070308194845.66133.qmail@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: IJLCWv0VM1kVCbIqEGBrgfTd4iWAxogDe92HhdegnN5nlz.orF6fMmaF38sBT1Zj0ER1yd6ndkCH5.QX4vRxPCJpJJ6NYQVRHTTLyT3ztjDB7kpnxV2pKlN4eHXWTvTZiBsxJq7ZAjIGyjYuo2.4ekPC_Q-- Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:48:45 -0800 (PST) From: Brian Kupferschmid Subject: Re: mp3 clip posted To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <8EEAA622-065A-4427-9BC8-A4825259605A@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:48:48 +0000 (UTC) wow, that's a lot of gear, sounds very expensive. At the moment, becaue I play in a conventional band, I'm working on getting my computer set up armed with the latest version of Cubase so I can record our album. I tend to play some keys, so I would be using the MIDI to play the VST organ and synths. I'd love to put together a band of sorts, involving an electronic percussionist, and a keyboard player, and I'd loop between guitar and bass. Anyway, you definitely know how to make it work, you do good stuff. --- Per Boysen wrote: > > http://www.looproom.com/aol/01_Patterns.mp3 > > > On 8 mar 2007, at 18.36, Brian Kupferschmid wrote: > > > I noticed that, I also was caught up in the beat. > If > > I'm not mistaken, I thought I heard a bit of > LaFosse > > influence in there, must be the EDP functions and > your > > use of them. Again, incredible stuff, sounds > like > > I'd better save my pennies and get an EDP, because > > after hearing that, sounds like nothing else will > do. > > How did you run the wah pedal? It sounds like a > > filter instead of a regular wah sound, like you > ran it > > through an effects loop rather than pre input, > well > > being that you were probably miked, that's about > the > > only way to do it. My current pedalboard has two > wahs > > on it one is post preamp for that filtery sound. > When > > I finally can immerse myself into looping, I > thought > > about the possibility to use loopers throughout my > > chain, for instance, one up front, so that my > effects > > can process the loop, and then one in back to > capture > > it for layering of tracks. How do you run your > chain > > for your set up? > > > You're asking how I'm running my chain for "my set > up", but fact is > that the "Patterns" piece was not produced with the > live concert set > up I'm using today (I use a couple, actually), so I > need to deal with > the questions on at a time. This "Patterns" was a > live looping EDP > improvisation that were recorded in a studio. That > environment gives > you more control than performing live on stage. The > studio routing > was as this: > > - Sax mic were split into two parallel lines. > - One sax signal going into one track on a > multitrack recorder (Logic > Pro on a computer with many audio inputs). > - Another sax signal going into the EDP. > - The EDP loop output going into another track on > the multitrack > recorder. > - The tempo set in Logic and the EDP syncing by MIDI > clock. > - A Behringer FCB1010 MIDI pedal board was used for > controlling the EDP. > - A software wha pedal simulation was opened on the > Logic track where > the direct sax was recorded (so the wha would not > affect the audio > looped on the EDP). I used the FCB1010's expression > pedal to work > that wha filter (yes, you are correct that I set it > more as a filter > than as the usual Cry Baby or Vox wha simulation > patches. > > Ok, those were the routings. So when playing I > recorded two mono > tracks: direct sax signal and EDP loops. Two other > tracks were > already recorded: Speach and percussion. I was > listening to these as > guidance for my improvisation. Functions used in the > EDP were > Overdub, SUSSubstitute (I guess that is the > character you have heard > in André LaFosse music), Speed and direct addressing > of the three loops. > > Finally, the recorded track of the EDP loops were > split up in Logic > to enter many different dynamic filterbanks. As I > remember a bunch of > Ohmforce Quadfrohmage. The pad like sound (where the > sax is going for > a long note and the percussion stops) was created in > the mix by > sending the sax signal (not the EDP looping) through > some Cycling74 > Pluggo effects (Rye and SpeedShifter, I think). > > So the effect processing were not done all the way > at the moment of > playing the looper and instrument. > > ----------------- > > How do you run your chain > > for your set up? > > If that addresses a live concert set up (guessing so > because you > mentioned your two wha pedal live setup) I'm doing > it much more > simple these days. Instrument going into an effect > processor going > into a laptop going into an analog stereo compressor > going into the > PA system. The laptop is loaded with Mobius (which > in essence is a > bunch of virtual stereo EDPs with a lot added > functionality) and a > little bit of reverb added to the looper output. > Mobius is picking up > the tempo I play in (by the length of the first loop > I make) and also > sending out MIDI Clock to my effect processor (so I > can sync or > desync delays and rhythmical filtering etc). I like > this set up > because it works well with flute, sax, guitar and > EWI played with the > built-in sounds. > > The http://www.looproom.com/audio/abc.mp3 though was > not done on that > set up but on the laptop only, running Guitar Rig 2 > into Mobius. I > don't like the sound of Guitar Rig 2 so I don't > think I will use it > more. > > A third se up is playing MIDI with an EWI into Logic > on one laptop > and looping it in Mobius on a second laptop. I think > I will use that > a lot in the future. > > Then there are all kind occasional systems mocked up > by EDP and MIDI > synchronizable analog filterbank, but I only use > them in the studio > (when I need some special sound) because they are > too heavy to > transport to gigs. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 20:07:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6D5A3BF19; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 20:07:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Swwr232KeNF4a6Wce2M95IMriIum5OmnXZVGBAVWstKZJ/rdl+7mAxhXyxha6yaoxONzetr6tVnGkiKPe+yblQ9lkbwD4cZP9l1gw8EIpGtX4ewvsV5I9TBKvYPI07o7Q8OSqWOolzJXgVVnorScjvaLNPgVRp/N/cHkz2SNZYw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=IJFY+Foiz0iiQbhUfO2AM7oTfYQaA9o0cw1jX95tMdipq+1+3uRxKzO8FMT4TlDZr0FbAAgMMJfLGsBINcSuVXK5W3Ok4r8Ks9/Ra8iNtHUviWW/6PeDz6cRldHY2v6kb7omsVuisGvUoogcbOTPWUAelLAOsn4gHS4RT2m6c14= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20070308194845.66133.qmail@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070308194845.66133.qmail@web34301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0FF92C1E-0C06-4833-AC1C-2C5D619DAB5C@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: mp3 clip posted Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:07:35 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68812 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 20:07:41 +0000 (UTC) On 8 mar 2007, at 20.48, Brian Kupferschmid wrote: > wow, that's a lot of gear, sounds very expensive. Not necessarily. Mobius is free and I'm doing a lot of recordings using only Mobius on a laptop. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 20:14:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8237D3BF1B; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 20:14:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=MWtKbafLu+XQEdwu71O5UV5rd+sWhf0q7QzXk4VnAEDq2KMbQVDTmaCLxhwzITDnTZ+/cCobm9MIWDK4tju6TFLQsSY02PQOCeVhMEMCP2OQwcZNBdO/YHXdDG+qlNGOHt6G6TDOtUoiaDOOLAhhAVH5KD7vL9WX7FTogU3ovbg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=pBqNhoFfMDY2qWti3hhoWu44GITndVMQV4MPnGqQQl8uGZJBZfkMi7qSGYHN1jFhm3G26afaYB6Urh8IjheBSVRy9tBqlazHKfCtThq0d768/IfpratzPVUr68aVuV/YxD37nXKdfEDWagcrSdeO+UM9iZytiH6S7BAe7r7xpYQ= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: thanks...and another tune Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:14:47 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <5Khcf.A.pQC.86G8FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68813 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 20:14:52 +0000 (UTC) On 8 mar 2007, at 14.22, simeon harris wrote: > here is a new tune... > http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/08_Mar_1644.mp3 A very nice piece! Listening to it makes me curios what it would sound like if you did an alternate mix without the drums and the bass line? :-) This is of course just a matter of taste, but I really like that fluffy stuff that for now is being beaten up by the beats. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 21:09:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD8543BF01; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:09:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: 24.239.145.24 Message-ID: <45F07B84.4050001@sarth.net> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:09:24 -0500 From: Sarth User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Live looping in NYC tonight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040208000503090000070607" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68814 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:09:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040208000503090000070607 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey loop-meisters, I am looping with kyma tonight at FatBaby, in Lower Manhattan, if any of you are interested. ======= Lucibel Crater Thursday, March 8th, 10:00 PM at Fatbaby 112 Rivington St. between Ludlow & Essex (212) 533-1888 - map Cover: $7 featuring exciting visuals by Full Stealth with Pit Brothers at 8 and Anti-Elevator Mission at 11 ======== If you haven't looked at it yet, go to http://lucibelcrater.com/ and check it out! --------------040208000503090000070607 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey loop-meisters, I am looping with kyma tonight at FatBaby, in Lower Manhattan, if any of you are interested.

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    Lucibel Crater
    Thursday, March 8th, 10:00 PM at Fatbaby
    112 Rivington St. between Ludlow & Essex
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    --------------040208000503090000070607-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 21:28:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96D463BF0A; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:28:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <3F4C19BD-99F6-40EA-AAAE-904B15C705B9@zoekeating.com> References: <3F4C19BD-99F6-40EA-AAAE-904B15C705B9@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-76--338906231 Message-Id: <86D1D803-1BF9-4D6D-8CAB-7F1FA66F5820@fuse.net> From: monk Subject: stupid question number 12,439- URGENT Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 16:28:25 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:28:42 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-76--338906231 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed i've been combing the EDP manual for the midi spec.. i just want to use my midi pedals instead of the proprietary thing. but i can't seem to find the obligatory table.. i have found them online for the echoplex plus? are they same for the loop5 version? anyone? thanks in advance. monk@Fuse.net ric hordinski www.richordinski.com www.myspace.com/richordinskimusic www.myspace.com/monasterystudio --Apple-Mail-76--338906231 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
    i've been combing = the EDP manual for the midi spec.. i just want to use my midi pedals=A0 = instead of the proprietary thing. but i can't seem to find the = obligatory table..

    i have found them online = for the echoplex plus? are they same for the loop5 version? = anyone?


    thanks in = advance.





    =
    ric = hordinski

    www.richordinski.com

    www.myspace.com/richordinskim= usic

    www.myspace.com/monasterystud= io

    =
    = --Apple-Mail-76--338906231-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 21:29:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B46D3BEEE; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:29:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [69.84.126.202] X-Originating-Email: [aaronleese@hotmail.com] X-Sender: aaronleese@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <45F07B84.4050001@sarth.net> From: "aaron leese" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: loop sync semantics Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:29:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2007 21:29:05.0226 (UTC) FILETIME=[CC4C62A0:01C761C8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68816 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:29:07 +0000 (UTC) I wonder ... Do you suppose we can come to a consensus on the words that most concisely describe these "looping modes" ... though I guess even that phrase is suspect .... This requires a picture ..... please see http://www.flyloops.com/semantics/loopingmodes.html Now for the questions: 1 - unsynced ..... this is what happens when you have two loop pedals in the same room, and neither one really cares when the other is doing. We have all tried looping in a band setting and for many of us, we thought we would be slick enough to have two people looping and stay in sync ... sadly it doesnt work that way! So ..... 2 - full syncronization ..... more advanced looping devices started syncronizing loops ..... that is, you can tell the second (slave) loop pedal to only start or stop recording when the first throws a repeat. This is the typical master/slave set ..... I think. 3 - partial syncronization ... latching ??? ...... Here the loops are also syncronized, but the pedal will start recording immediately once pressed .... it just knows to only stop recording/start playback when the master loop is at a certain offset ....... More importantly .... lets talk hardware ..... --- The RC20 and original boomeraang are of course, only layering ... so you could think of this as full syncronization but without the ability to have phrases of different lengths, or to turn phrases on/off once recorded ..... ---- The RC50 has 3 loop banks ... They are unsynced I believe ??? Or you can set a midi clock and preprogram a length?? Can they be different lengths then, but synced (like the EDP multiply function?). Forgive me, but I haven't checked one out yet. ---- If you have the cash two EDPS, you can have a master slave and set up the EDPs as fully synced .... ---- Mobius behaves as fully synced I believe ... though I have only used it a little. Do you have to preprogram the loop length, or can it just work off the length of the recorded "master" loop, and then go from there .... ---- Does anything do that other one ..... partial synced / latching .... I imagine Ableton could with some work ..... Anyway .... I look forward to the responses .... lemme know what you think the proper words area here for what I call synced/ unsynced/ latching modes ...... _________________________________________________________________ Win a Zune™—make MSN® your homepage for your chance to win! http://homepage.msn.com/zune?icid=hmetagline From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 21:30:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A50DD3BF0A; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:30:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Z8FmkNR/8hAXRTd+E1q26ch/PcCfyggxFn81BNAUBWqgAMjByZ53p2da0QB839+IhKtu5MvaE5FeWEAncxOCVJz/F+HXtR+qFNwmZrJt7dGL8BwKzqzAhMB5nLtiY9mtbjMYB0NSXY6w5vrnmryE3tyZnlVDoadc5MAB4rEfliQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=J9KJL2DA/Z3QgVkdsMcEcqrU4AdUsRr6fxDRbfeu0bneGoNV4sur3wodC4GCCnlqcfSQYUce5TW9xxpgNHKLPStmD5am9Wa7NVk0OGMUMguTFT04eo5+GUdyLRzRSKCDO/GifQqaN09UzjzvElTJ6Ps/cs5Nso2WGs4s4Cn4v8A= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 13:30:54 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: stupid question number 12,439- URGENT In-Reply-To: <86D1D803-1BF9-4D6D-8CAB-7F1FA66F5820@fuse.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_121996_19472065.1173389454646" References: <3F4C19BD-99F6-40EA-AAAE-904B15C705B9@zoekeating.com> <86D1D803-1BF9-4D6D-8CAB-7F1FA66F5820@fuse.net> Resent-Message-ID: <1WF5gD.A.XaH.SCI8FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68817 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:30:58 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_121996_19472065.1173389454646 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline If you've got the latest version of the EDP software on a beige Oberheim/Gibson unit, it's the same as the EDP+ from a MIDI standpoint. On 3/8/07, monk wrote: > > > i've been combing the EDP manual for the midi spec.. i just want to use my > midi pedals instead of the proprietary thing. but i can't seem to find the > obligatory table.. > > i have found them online for the echoplex plus? are they same for the > loop5 version? anyone? > > ------=_Part_121996_19472065.1173389454646 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline If you've got the latest version of the EDP software on a beige Oberheim/Gibson unit, it's the same as the EDP+ from a MIDI standpoint.

    On 3/8/07, monk <monk@fuse.net> wrote:

    i've been combing the EDP manual for the midi spec.. i just want to use my midi pedals  instead of the proprietary thing. but i can't seem to find the obligatory table..

    i have found them online for the echoplex plus? are they same for the loop5 version? anyone?


    ------=_Part_121996_19472065.1173389454646-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 21:32:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C996B3BF22; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:32:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) To: Loop List Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-31--338646314 From: Steve Lawson Subject: gigs in Madrid, and accomodation suggestions... Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:32:45 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - dot1.hosting-ontap.co.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - steve-lawson.co.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:32:39 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-31--338646314 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hey loopists, I've got two gigs in Madrid next week - on Tuesday at a club called Tempo, with Lobelia - www.myspace.com/lobeliamusic (much bass and vocal loopage...) and then solo at Bar-Co on Thursday. If you're in Madrid, please come down! Also, if anyone in Madrid, can suggest cheap places to stay in the city, we're looking for accomodation... email me offlist if you have any ideas. thanks! Steve www.stevelawson.net - site www.stevelawson.net/zencart/ - shop http://steve.anthropiccollective.org - blog www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson --Apple-Mail-31--338646314 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey loopists,=A0



    www.myspace.com/solobassstevelawson



    = --Apple-Mail-31--338646314-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 22:07:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7396D3BF1D; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:07:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <444811.64669.qm@web34310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <56432.167.83.10.20.1172595103.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: looping pedal with decay? Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:07:47 -0500 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 24126 Message-Id: <8C92FE556B0AD05-D8C-1E90@webmail-de19.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 205.188.104.40 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68819 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:07:55 +0000 (UTC) get a rang and a small mixer.....michael http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ www.ct-collective.com -----Original Message----- Does anyone else out there want to weigh in on this issue before I spend the money I don't have? ????????????????????????????? THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eben ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 22:09:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FD6E3BF14; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:09:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: <3F4C19BD-99F6-40EA-AAAE-904B15C705B9@zoekeating.com> <86D1D803-1BF9-4D6D-8CAB-7F1FA66F5820@fuse.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-77--336467019 Message-Id: <0342B169-FCE4-4C74-8AC0-D9B4E3EAEF10@fuse.net> From: monk Subject: midi spec for original EDP? Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:09:04 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:09:22 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-77--336467019 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed i have the original software, sadly. i've been trying to track down a phone number to order the upgrade... anyone? the manual i have absolutely doesn't have the midi spec and when i try the "plus" version (note D on) it doesn't work. anyone have the midi spec for the original version? On Mar 8, 2007, at 4:30 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > If you've got the latest version of the EDP software on a beige > Oberheim/Gibson unit, it's the same as the EDP+ from a MIDI > standpoint. > > On 3/8/07, monk wrote: > > i've been combing the EDP manual for the midi spec.. i just want to > use my midi pedals instead of the proprietary thing. but i can't > seem to find the obligatory table.. > > i have found them online for the echoplex plus? are they same for > the loop5 version? anyone? > > ric hordinski www.richordinski.com www.myspace.com/richordinskimusic www.myspace.com/monasterystudio --Apple-Mail-77--336467019 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 i have the original software, = sadly. i've been trying to track down a phone number to order the = upgrade... anyone?

    the manual i have = absolutely doesn't have the midi spec and when i try the "plus" version = (note D on) it doesn't work. anyone have the midi spec for the original = version?






    On Mar 8, = 2007, at 4:30 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote:

    If you've = got the latest version of the EDP software on a beige Oberheim/Gibson = unit, it's the same as the EDP+ from a MIDI = standpoint.

    On 3/8/07, monk <monk@fuse.net> = wrote:

    i've been combing the EDP manual = for the midi spec.. i just want to use my midi pedals=A0 instead of the = proprietary thing. but i can't seem to find the obligatory = table..

    i have found them online for the echoplex = plus? are they same for the loop5 version? anyone? =



    =
    ric = hordinski

    www.richordinski.com

    www.myspace.com/richordinskim= usic

    www.myspace.com/monasterystud= io

    =

    = --Apple-Mail-77--336467019-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 22:16:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2929B3BF16; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:16:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.3.225] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070308193622.1F9AB3BF19@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Audient Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 14:16:47 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Mar 2007 22:16:51.0382 (UTC) FILETIME=[78A91560:01C761CF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:16:54 +0000 (UTC) Did y'all play for him? _________________________________________________________________ Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more….then map the best route! http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag1&FORM=MGAC01 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 22:23:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 020403BF0A; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:23:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=BY51JmsJaFHAKAP71OjkhbXb1Zya/P/xC2OmBvjXW7QPhAGDndJeC3MooORmmyBh/eGvPZQFZdqGC1aADn4KqTUO2T5t0EnHM1rR7vMT2fVLPSe9sybS4OHQZpuUOR0qzb1GrBDBc8NOPRCMG6MAuj0rRiQVdoHJj9Kjw/vWFnA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=hjqVy3GjkwF/NSFP3TqF515wvV3uDtYpNFmcFwtl9VRQ/HZXWmEICm98d/HUyE3tNzepYiqRqiXVoui5PcQghip1EbPQvD9rIkwXwd5YhdZgLYzShvG1wzx8VPQHm/AsCncYmL1RGH2cxZ1PeGY6WzB9ZENVCSuys7LESEBe6QI= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:23:06 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: midi spec for original EDP? In-Reply-To: <0342B169-FCE4-4C74-8AC0-D9B4E3EAEF10@fuse.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_122456_19525230.1173392586329" References: <3F4C19BD-99F6-40EA-AAAE-904B15C705B9@zoekeating.com> <86D1D803-1BF9-4D6D-8CAB-7F1FA66F5820@fuse.net> <0342B169-FCE4-4C74-8AC0-D9B4E3EAEF10@fuse.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:23:09 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_122456_19525230.1173392586329 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The upgrade is available via Aurisis: http://www.aurisis.com/products/loopIV/loopIVorder.html They don't do orders by phone. I've never seen a MIDI spec for the old software, other than the info sprinkled through the manual. What specifically are you trying to do via MIDI? On 3/8/07, monk wrote: > > i have the original software, sadly. i've been trying to track down a > phone number to order the upgrade... anyone? > the manual i have absolutely doesn't have the midi spec and when i try the > "plus" version (note D on) it doesn't work. anyone have the midi spec for > the original version? > > > > ------=_Part_122456_19525230.1173392586329 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The upgrade is available via Aurisis:

    http://www.aurisis.com/products/loopIV/loopIVorder.html

    They don't do orders by phone.

    I've never seen a MIDI spec for the old software, other than the info sprinkled through the manual.  What specifically are you trying to do via MIDI?

    On 3/8/07, monk <monk@fuse.net> wrote:
    i have the original software, sadly. i've been trying to track down a phone number to order the upgrade... anyone?

    the manual i have absolutely doesn't have the midi spec and when i try the "plus" version (note D on) it doesn't work. anyone have the midi spec for the original version?




    ------=_Part_122456_19525230.1173392586329-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 22:32:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 27BFC3BF14; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:32:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: n.p. Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:31:45 -0500 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 24126 Message-Id: <8C92FE8B0281B99-D8C-1FC9@webmail-de19.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 205.188.104.40 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:32:07 +0000 (UTC) i set my air/synth at a slower speed and had it play a loop.....sent that to my rang.....and also to my mo-fx.....3 asyncranous (sp) loops that went of into different alesis boxes.....good clean non-midi fun.....got me dancin' naked in a cold room.....midi is for sissies!.....:).....michael http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ www.ct-collective.com ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 22:35:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A3BA3BF23; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:35:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003901c761d2$26be2350$16b2a8c0@netzrechner> Reply-To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: Subject: Re: loop sync semantics Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 23:36:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:397775b7a70d9e9b11c0f2c5ded06394 X-Provags-ID2: V01U2FsdGVkX1/h73wLXBFUKfNceZMLI/7EAZ+bj1eN/7ynUV7 eA8m5rfJFs4q4lSM5WUbFsvV97ClHev50skQTUfAIxIbrLZMBj aoLsttYa8uPbcH0Hdo8qZPWD4l45b9F Resent-Message-ID: <5FV9YC.A.lhD.1-I8FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:35:34 +0000 (UTC) well done, aaron! nice graphics. all the best, tilmann ----- Original Message ----- From: "aaron leese" To: Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 10:29 PM Subject: loop sync semantics > > I wonder ... Do you suppose we can come to a consensus on the words that > most concisely describe these "looping modes" ... though I guess even that > phrase is suspect .... > > This requires a picture ..... > please see http://www.flyloops.com/semantics/loopingmodes.html > > Now for the questions: > > 1 - unsynced ..... this is what happens when you have two loop pedals in > the same room, and neither one really cares when the other is doing. We > have all tried looping in a band setting and for many of us, we thought we > would be slick enough to have two people looping and stay in sync ... > sadly it doesnt work that way! > > So ..... > > 2 - full syncronization ..... more advanced looping devices started > syncronizing loops ..... that is, you can tell the second (slave) loop > pedal to only start or stop recording when the first throws a repeat. > This is the typical master/slave set ..... I think. > > 3 - partial syncronization ... latching ??? ...... Here the loops are also > syncronized, but the pedal will start recording immediately once pressed > .... it just knows to only stop recording/start playback when the master > loop is at a certain offset ....... > > > > More importantly .... lets talk hardware ..... > > --- The RC20 and original boomeraang are of course, only layering ... so > you could think of this as full syncronization but without the ability to > have phrases of different lengths, or to turn phrases on/off once recorded > ..... > > ---- The RC50 has 3 loop banks ... They are unsynced I believe ??? Or > you can set a midi clock and preprogram a length?? Can they be different > lengths then, but synced (like the EDP multiply function?). Forgive me, > but I haven't checked one out yet. > > ---- If you have the cash two EDPS, you can have a master slave and set > up the EDPs as fully synced .... > > ---- Mobius behaves as fully synced I believe ... though I have only used > it a little. Do you have to preprogram the loop length, or can it just > work off the length of the recorded "master" loop, and then go from there > .... > > ---- Does anything do that other one ..... partial synced / latching .... > I imagine Ableton could with some work ..... > > > Anyway .... I look forward to the responses .... lemme know what you think > the proper words area here for what I call synced/ unsynced/ latching > modes ...... > > _________________________________________________________________ > Win a ZuneT-make MSN® your homepage for your chance to win! > http://homepage.msn.com/zune?icid=hmetagline > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 22:42:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 022253BF27; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:42:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] Message-ID: <007401c761d2$fd6e28f0$4001a8c0@mini> From: "CV" To: References: <3F4C19BD-99F6-40EA-AAAE-904B15C705B9@zoekeating.com> <86D1D803-1BF9-4D6D-8CAB-7F1FA66F5820@fuse.net> Subject: Re: stupid question number 12,439- URGENT Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 23:42:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:42:05 +0000 (UTC) try that http://www.loopersdelight.com/tools/echoplex/PLEX_MIDI_COMMANDS.zip Claude > > i've been combing the EDP manual for the midi spec.. i just want to > use my midi pedals instead of the proprietary thing. but i can't > seem to find the obligatory table.. > > i have found them online for the echoplex plus? are they same for the > loop5 version? anyone? > > > thanks in advance. > > > > monk@Fuse.net > > > ric hordinski > > www.richordinski.com > > www.myspace.com/richordinskimusic > > www.myspace.com/monasterystudio > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 22:44:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8E4B3BF28; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:44:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <005001c761d3$780c8a70$16b2a8c0@netzrechner> Reply-To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: Subject: Re: Audient Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 23:45:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de login:397775b7a70d9e9b11c0f2c5ded06394 X-Provags-ID2: V01U2FsdGVkX1+lid8RWH6r0Dqz+F4At6LY61Hpf32mpB9GaKa 2M5zPuNz1wR+hckPPAqmDgbS8hOMISSLm8lu8T9Z30Q0fbG8m6 rdwZthpelNBWIlTcswgK1X+essTVC5Y Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:44:59 +0000 (UTC) we have this rule: my quartet plays only, if there is more people in the audience then on stage. when there is only five people present, we kindly ask them to introduce themselves. once we dedicated each piece to one of the listeners. it was fun. sometimes these mini crowds can be great. (once i played a duo concert for my mother, my girlfriend and the organizer. it was election night - no wonder nobody showed up.) tilmann ----- Original Message ----- From: "samba -" To: Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 11:16 PM Subject: Audient > Did y'all play for him? > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more..then map the best > route! http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag1&FORM=MGAC01 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 22:48:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1611B3BF22; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:48:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=l/jP9YGS3gvw9uhssawbpAgDdnpXx8THt8CLCR5kFwmYmpLTvaAGWAb6NjeMGoqI/WKYBqK1/RmPlhXENfJ1AoB+zKohK7DJn5LyucJkIcduOxF1hhiC8DW1yRzW0HPdRKkzSY9mO55nC1YSyV4wZKs2s5iKOCr940z9hlupf9c=; X-YMail-OSG: 0KK6y7kVM1kKsizXErOvYnlxfhplkscSVKPg7KYxbazoUScQQAwUeaL26hySTQfVd37G9246GhYTm4YXkhxVP2S23pzR_OYGuir0a_dLcIcKb.s1HPTr.3xR6OuXqwCWzjQKFyHg7Uke6rKL3p0KEioHjTI- Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:48:09 -0800 (PST) From: rabbirabbifive Subject: Re: Stupid Question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <758120.85476.qm@web60313.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68827 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:48:11 +0000 (UTC) >i've been combing the EDP manual for the midi spec.. i just want to use >my midi pedals instead of the proprietary thing. but i can't seem to >find the obligatory table.. >i have found them online for the echoplex plus? are they same for the >loop5 version? anyone? >thanks in advance. IIRC in loop 3 you can assign midi note equivalents for the front panel buttons. 1st button is midi note x (whatever you assign), next button over is note x+1 and so on. Someone w/ a loop3 manual please chime in w/ specifics. Loop 4 has much more extensive midi control. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 8 22:54:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF9F83BF26; Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=AxLhyAvKSwps4NUnKfKvJjA79vQ1Day0hTK6wCGGdBrFPe9q8TEu1GWDMpvlmM3GUtPLtyzT2GXln/RphzzL2Zk7F8JC0CDnY1kU87lowVdSOAZQLh7RcVzoEYe78Nn+np4xhPqA/tvk+mIYb1sHXYXbfX7aRHM6qe0AR35h3fc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=PRScu3gh956yg25V8MQb8HPCUQIoEeibMUKjd53haQ4Fqh1OQEJN2/Weud+zzFpRaDOddsVEp4Y2qEqghp8DWFaPTrY91ltVig8o0Ct1oRd9WeQ/i264pQ6lQe3Dd9qmbFQ83wWsX+wUYG47/TQUcRyx+WtyRp59Jb3tJ1GGjyo= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:54:25 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Stupid Question In-Reply-To: <758120.85476.qm@web60313.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <758120.85476.qm@web60313.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:54:28 +0000 (UTC) On 3/8/07, rabbirabbifive wrote: > > > IIRC in loop 3 you can assign midi note equivalents for the front panel > buttons. 1st button is midi note x (whatever you assign), next button > over is note x+1 and so on. Someone w/ a loop3 manual please chime in > w/ specifics. > p.95 of the manual: Default: 36 Source # Parameter Row: MIDI Determines the starting note number, or controller number, for MIDI control of Echoplex operations. Values: 0-99 When ControlSource is set to Notes,each press of an Echoplexbutton will send a pair of Note On messages out the MIDIOut port; when ControlSource is set to Controllers, a pair of Control Change messages will be sent instead. This parameter determines the note or controller number associated with the Parameter button. Other buttons are assigned to notes or controllers based on the table below. In the table, "n" is assumed to represent the Parameter button (n other words, Source #). The numbers in parentheses are based on the default value of 36 for Source #. Parameters n (36) Record n+2 (38) Overdub n+3 (39) Multiply n+4 (40) Insert n+5 (41) Mute n+6 (42) Undo n+7 (43) NextLoop n+8 (44) From nobody@serv1.93c.com Fri Mar 9 00:34:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 38093 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Fri, 09 Mar 2007 00:34:14 UTC Received: from serv1.93c.com (b2.b7.344a.static.theplanet.com [74.52.183.178]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E4173BEF6 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 00:34:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nobody by serv1.93c.com with local (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HPJ9G-0004mL-3P for looparc@loopers-delight.com; Thu, 08 Mar 2007 07:59:14 -0600 To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: You have received a postcard ! 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Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:38:04 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C7622E.A2E3E350" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 01:38:16 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C7622E.A2E3E350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable just in case you dont know ...the rc50 does true feedback but relies on = an external mixer to acheive this.....although i havent tried this out = for myself yet....but others have and apparently it works. what also makes this interesting is that you can put effects on that = decay loop. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: radio radio=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:36 AM Subject: Re: looping pedal with decay? thanks for the replies! I think the Gibson EDP is out of my price = range, unless I can find a rediculous deal on one on Ebay, but I am glad = to know that that the Boomerang does have a decay - I did not realize = that. Right now that may look like the best option, although I am a bit = wary of the noise that many reviewers report as my rig is already quite = noisey. Another person recommended the Electro Harmonix 2880 or their 16 = second delay (and mentioned that the original lexicon jamman and the = electrix repeater also had a function to set the feedback). I'm glad to = know that I what I want does indeed exist and for the help in narrowing = it down. Now I can return the looper I bought that I thought had a = set-able feedback but does not (digitech jamman). In looking at these = other ones, I can't tell which ones accept more than one type of input ( = e.g., instrument, mic, and line levels). I would want at least the = ability to use an instrument and a mic, although I wouldn't necessarily = need to be able to do both simultaneously, so long as I got quick at = switching.=20 Does anyone else out there want to weigh in on this issue before I = spend the money I don't have? The quest is for a looping pedal that = takes both instrument level and line level and which you can set the = feedback for the loops (versus having them loop infinitely). I currently = do not have any rack equipment, is that a bridge I want to cross? Is = there anything else I should be considering in a addition?=20 The ones mentioned so far are: Gibson Echoplex Boomerang plus Electro-Harmonix 2820 Electro-Harmonix 16 second delay Original Lexicon Jamman Electrix Repeater ?????????????????????????????=20 THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eben On 2/27/07, mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: If I read you correctly, the Gibson EDP does what you want and tons = more!=20 I upgraded from a Boomerang plus which does have the decay but you = pick it ahead of time (i.e. 20 reps, 10, 1 or infinite I beleive) my 2 cents... Plish www.myspace.com/michaelplishka www.myspace.com/bohdanovich www.michaelplishka.com > The only things that I know of that will do what you=20 > describe are delay pedals. I think the Giga delay > would be your best bet, but I'd also read somewhere > that this one artist(I can't remebmer his name) uses > Eventide rack mount processors set up with an=20 > algorhythm that was set with a 95% feedback so that > his loops would decay over time. That sounds more like > what you want, but that stuff is way expensive. Other > than that, sounds like all you need is a digital delay=20 > unit with copious anmounts of time and to be able to > set the feedback setting as needed to make the loops > decay over time. > --- radio radio wrote: > >> I want to buy a pedal and get into looping but am >> having trouble >> figuring out which one will best meet my needs (and >> budget). I've >> learned a LOT from this web site, but still can't=20 >> quite figure out >> everything and would really benefit from a human >> (albeit >> computer-mediated) interaction. Thanks in advance >> for taking the time >> to read this and respond - I hope that I will be=20 >> able to "give back" >> some day when I know something worth while. Until >> then, I guess I >> should donate to this site if I get any responses. >> >> From what I've read and thought about, it looks like=20 >> what will be the >> most important distinction for me is that the loops >> will be able to >> decay. In other words, you can lay down a loop, lay >> down another one >> on top, and then another, and so on, and eventually=20 >> the first one dies >> out, then the second one, and so on. I imagine this >> working like a >> delay pedal in which you can set the decay (or is >> that called >> feedback?). So you could "morph" over time into new=20 >> things, without >> being stuck with your original loops, and without >> having to open a new >> loop and start from scratch with only one new track >> each time you >> wanted to change it up.=20 >> >> The three pedals I've looked into are: >> >> BOSS RC20xl, Digitech Jamman, and BOSS DD-20 giga >> delay >> >> I thought the BOSS was it, but now I'm thinking that=20 >> it doesn't allow >> this thing that I described. I can't tell if you can >> do this with the >> Jamman or not - does anyone know? You could do this >> with the DD-20,=20 >> but I can't tell if you'd be able to set a >> loop/delay time up with >> your foot or not (versus having to set it to a >> certain number of >> seconds and then hope you can keep your riff to that=20 >> length) or if >> there would be other difficulties that I'm not aware >> of if you're >> using this as a looping pedal when it's built to be >> a delay. >>=20 >> Should I be considering a different pedal? I don't >> really need a delay >> pedal - I want a loop pedal that decays. I don't >> really need to be >> able to save my loops - I just want to be able to=20 >> set them up on the >> fly. I don't need to be able to save them on my >> computer. I don't need >> to be able to plug in a separate mic or instrument >> in addition to the=20 >> guitar, although that would be a definite bonus for >> me. I don't need a >> long amount of time - I'm guessing 23 seconds is >> plenty. I don't know >> if I need the ability to set up separate loops or=20 >> not - I certainly >> wouldn't mind, but I don't know enough about using a >> looper yet to >> know about that. Also, how important is >> 'auto-quanitze'? Lastly, I=20 >> don't have a lot of money to spend, so the echoplex >> is right out. The >> boomerang is also too expensive, and anyway I'm >> affraid of the noise >> issues that people have written about with that one.=20 >> I haven't really >> learned about any other pedals out there. >> >> Thanks again! >> Eben >> >> > > > > > = _________________________________________________________________________= ___________=20 > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail > > ------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C7622E.A2E3E350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    just in case you dont know ...the rc50 = does true=20 feedback but relies on an external mixer to acheive this.....although i = havent=20 tried this out for myself yet....but others have and apparently it=20 works.
     
    what also makes this interesting is = that you can=20 put effects on that decay loop.
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    Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 = 3:36=20 AM
    Subject: Re: looping pedal with = decay?

    thanks for the replies! I think the Gibson EDP is out = of my=20 price range, unless I can find a rediculous deal on one on Ebay, but I = am glad=20 to know that that the Boomerang does have a decay - I did not realize = that.=20 Right now that may look like the best option, although I am a bit wary = of the=20 noise that many reviewers report as my rig is already quite noisey. = Another=20 person recommended the Electro Harmonix 2880 or their 16 second delay = (and=20 mentioned that the original lexicon jamman and the electrix repeater = also had=20 a function to set the feedback). I'm glad to know that I what I want = does=20 indeed exist and for the help in narrowing it down. Now I can return = the=20 looper I bought that I thought had a set-able feedback but does not = (digitech=20 jamman). In looking at these other ones, I can't tell which ones = accept more=20 than one type of input ( e.g., instrument, mic, and line levels). I = would want=20 at least the ability to use an instrument and a mic, although I = wouldn't=20 necessarily need to be able to do both simultaneously, so long as I = got quick=20 at switching.

    Does anyone else out there want to weigh in on = this=20 issue before I spend the money I don't have? The quest is for a = looping pedal=20 that takes both instrument level and line level and which you can set = the=20 feedback for the loops (versus having them loop infinitely). I = currently do=20 not have any rack equipment, is that a bridge I want to cross? Is = there=20 anything else I should be considering in a addition?

    The ones=20 mentioned so far are:

    Gibson Echoplex
    Boomerang=20 plus
    Electro-Harmonix 2820
    Electro-Harmonix 16 second = delay
    Original=20 Lexicon Jamman
    Electrix = Repeater

    ?????????????????????????????=20 =
    THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Eben
    On 2/27/07, mike@michaelplishka.com = <mike@michaelplishka.com>=20 wrote:
    If=20 I read you correctly, the Gibson EDP does what you want and tons = more!
    I=20 upgraded from a Boomerang plus which does have the decay but you = pick=20 it
    ahead of time (i.e. 20 reps, 10, 1 or infinite I = beleive)

    my 2=20 cents...

    Plish

    www.myspace.com/michaelpli= shka
    www.myspace.com/bohdanovich
    www.michaelplishka.com

    = >=20 The only things that I know of that will do what you
    > = describe are=20 delay pedals.  I think the Giga delay
    > would be = your best=20 bet, but I'd also read somewhere
    > that this one artist(I = can't=20 remebmer his name) uses
    > Eventide rack mount processors set = up with=20 an
    > algorhythm that was set with a 95% feedback so = that
    > his=20 loops would decay over time. That sounds more like
    > what you = want,=20 but that stuff is way expensive.  Other
    > than that, = sounds=20 like all you need is a digital delay
    > unit with copious = anmounts of=20 time and to be able to
    > set the  feedback setting = as needed=20 to make the loops
    > decay over time.
    > --- radio radio = <radiotelevision@gmail.com = >=20 wrote:
    >
    >> I want to buy a pedal and get into = looping but=20 am
    >> having trouble
    >> figuring out which one = will best=20 meet my needs (and
    >> budget). I've
    >> learned a = LOT from=20 this web site, but still can't
    >> quite figure = out
    >>=20 everything and would really benefit from a human
    >>=20 (albeit
    >> computer-mediated) interaction. Thanks in=20 advance
    >> for taking the time
    >> to read this and = respond=20 - I hope that I will be
    >> able to "give back"
    >> = some=20 day when I know something worth while. Until
    >> then, I = guess=20 I
    >> should donate to this site if I get any=20 responses.
    >>
    >> From what I've read and thought = about, it=20 looks like
    >> what will be the
    >> most important=20 distinction for me is that the loops
    >> will be able = to
    >>=20 decay. In other words, you can lay down a loop, lay
    >> down = another=20 one
    >> on top, and then another, and so on, and eventually=20
    >> the first one dies
    >> out, then the second = one, and so=20 on. I imagine this
    >> working like a
    >> delay = pedal in=20 which you can set the decay (or is
    >> that = called
    >>=20 feedback?). So you could "morph" over time into new
    >> = things,=20 without
    >> being stuck with your original loops, and=20 without
    >> having to open a new
    >> loop and start = from=20 scratch with only one new track
    >> each=20 time  you
    >> wanted to change it up.=20
    >>
    >> The three pedals I've looked into=20 are:
    >>
    >> BOSS RC20xl, Digitech Jamman, and BOSS = DD-20=20 giga
    >> delay
    >>
    >> I thought the BOSS = was it,=20 but now I'm thinking that
    >> it doesn't allow
    >> = this=20 thing that I described. I can't tell if you can
    >> do this = with=20 the
    >> Jamman or not - does anyone know? You could do=20 this
    >> with the DD-20,
    >> but I can't tell if = you'd be=20 able to set a
    >> loop/delay time up with
    >> your = foot or=20 not (versus having to set it to a
    >> certain number = of
    >>=20 seconds and then hope you can keep your riff to that
    >> = length) or=20 if
    >> there would be other difficulties that I'm not=20 aware
    >> of if you're
    >> using this as a looping = pedal=20 when it's built to be
    >> a delay.
    >>
    >> = Should I=20 be considering a different pedal? I don't
    >> really need a=20 delay
    >> pedal - I want a loop pedal that decays. I=20 don't
    >> really need to be
    >> able to save my = loops - I=20 just want to be able to
    >> set them up on the
    >> = fly. I=20 don't need to be able to save them on my
    >> computer. I = don't=20 need
    >> to be able to plug in a separate mic or=20 instrument
    >> in addition to the
    >> guitar, = although that=20 would be a definite bonus for
    >> me. I don't need = a
    >>=20 long amount of time - I'm guessing 23 seconds is
    >> plenty. = I don't=20 know
    >> if I need the ability to set up separate loops or=20
    >> not - I certainly
    >> wouldn't mind, but I = don't know=20 enough about using a
    >> looper yet to
    >> know = about that.=20 Also, how important is
    >> 'auto-quanitze'? Lastly, I =
    >>=20 don't have a lot of money to spend, so the echoplex
    >> is = right=20 out. The
    >> boomerang is also too expensive, and anyway=20 I'm
    >> affraid of the noise
    >> issues that people = have=20 written about with that one.
    >> I haven't = really
    >>=20 learned about any other pedals out there.
    >>
    >> = Thanks=20 again!
    >>=20 Eben
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > = = _________________________________________________________________________= ___________=20
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    ------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01C7622E.A2E3E350-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 01:50:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2EB0D3BF19; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 01:50:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1137.69.59.206.219.1173405032.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <005001c761d3$780c8a70$16b2a8c0@netzrechner> References: <005001c761d3$780c8a70$16b2a8c0@netzrechner> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:50:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Audient From: improv@peak.org To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" Cc: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-smtp-out.server.peak.org-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-smtp-out.server.peak.org-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-smtp-out.server.peak.org-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.438, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60, NO_REAL_NAME 0.96) X-smtp-out.server.peak.org-MailScanner-From: improv@peak.org X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 01:50:47 +0000 (UTC) > we have this rule: my quartet plays only, if there is more people in the > audience then on stage. No offense, but that seems a bit harsh to the people who actually came out to your show. I play in a 6-piece band, and we have definitely played to audient's (I love that term) before, but we figure since we are there, we might as well put on a show. Sometimes those are the most fun, once you get past the sinking feelings of abject failure ;-). I remember one show in the bay area, we were on the road from Oregon and played at a club to 12 people. We went ahead and did the gig, the management gave us the option of cancelling, we were playing for the door. We played pretty well, and everyone of those 12 people bought a CD (some more than one) and a T-shirt. Plus, they took up a collection, and bought us dinner from a nearby takeout place, as well as numerous beers. We felt like we made friends with everyone of those people, and they still come to our shows. Now they bring friends! I just figure it's part of our job description to play the gig, no matter what. > when there is only five people present, we kindly ask them to introduce > themselves. > once we dedicated each piece to one of the listeners. > it was fun. sometimes these mini crowds can be great. > > (once i played a duo concert for my mother, my girlfriend and the > organizer. > it was election night - no wonder nobody showed up.) > > tilmann -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content, and is believed to be clean. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 02:30:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2290D3BF1E; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 02:30:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FnDmquQkSy4jKYZBA9tGOv92D33913JWq3Xb2xTMMzBNjc1LY7PSgjpPTuqvCirYk4zmNQJNnclvWQFcgtSjGO2tPSQK22DDZqoSttjUEx07DlczDT337692fUrX7/iLkBMVy0w7UVP/fsxrX1j6HRCW6Jtfin5CwaEcf7oYLbo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=j2rop/DWZbbhGHhb7DNo3UhefWgKvI4w7z88qG+eZiXqXR2RQ+SzXOclF2HVCZ8zaSjhFgultirDNn3lF/coMGwoOxtNgYD5+sFtFuf0OUn3Gsqkg+ujNGN/Mf72kN+EKMk8ydkHg/7xH7FFCQYPCAuARGsEbaiJ8+qssyBAeqg= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:30:35 -0500 From: "radio radio" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looping pedal with decay? In-Reply-To: <00d501c761eb$976843b0$6401a8c0@homeanj> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <444811.64669.qm@web34310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <56432.167.83.10.20.1172595103.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> <00d501c761eb$976843b0$6401a8c0@homeanj> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 02:30:39 +0000 (UTC) I didn't know that - what does that mean? THANKS! On 3/8/07, arcmotion wrote: > > > just in case you dont know ...the rc50 does true feedback but relies on an > external mixer to acheive this.....although i havent tried this out for > myself yet....but others have and apparently it works. > > what also makes this interesting is that you can put effects on that decay > loop. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: radio radio > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:36 AM > Subject: Re: looping pedal with decay? > > thanks for the replies! I think the Gibson EDP is out of my price range, > unless I can find a rediculous deal on one on Ebay, but I am glad to know > that that the Boomerang does have a decay - I did not realize that. Right > now that may look like the best option, although I am a bit wary of the > noise that many reviewers report as my rig is already quite noisey. Another > person recommended the Electro Harmonix 2880 or their 16 second delay (and > mentioned that the original lexicon jamman and the electrix repeater also > had a function to set the feedback). I'm glad to know that I what I want > does indeed exist and for the help in narrowing it down. Now I can return > the looper I bought that I thought had a set-able feedback but does not > (digitech jamman). In looking at these other ones, I can't tell which ones > accept more than one type of input ( e.g., instrument, mic, and line > levels). I would want at least the ability to use an instrument and a mic, > although I wouldn't necessarily need to be able to do both simultaneously, > so long as I got quick at switching. > > Does anyone else out there want to weigh in on this issue before I spend the > money I don't have? The quest is for a looping pedal that takes both > instrument level and line level and which you can set the feedback for the > loops (versus having them loop infinitely). I currently do not have any rack > equipment, is that a bridge I want to cross? Is there anything else I should > be considering in a addition? > > The ones mentioned so far are: > > Gibson Echoplex > Boomerang plus > Electro-Harmonix 2820 > Electro-Harmonix 16 second delay > Original Lexicon Jamman > Electrix Repeater > > ????????????????????????????? > THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Eben > > > On 2/27/07, mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > > If I read you correctly, the Gibson EDP does what you want and tons more! > > I upgraded from a Boomerang plus which does have the decay but you pick it > > ahead of time (i.e. 20 reps, 10, 1 or infinite I beleive) > > > > my 2 cents... > > > > Plish > > > > www.myspace.com/michaelplishka > > www.myspace.com/bohdanovich > > www.michaelplishka.com > > > > > The only things that I know of that will do what you > > > describe are delay pedals. I think the Giga delay > > > would be your best bet, but I'd also read somewhere > > > that this one artist(I can't remebmer his name) uses > > > Eventide rack mount processors set up with an > > > algorhythm that was set with a 95% feedback so that > > > his loops would decay over time. That sounds more like > > > what you want, but that stuff is way expensive. Other > > > than that, sounds like all you need is a digital delay > > > unit with copious anmounts of time and to be able to > > > set the feedback setting as needed to make the loops > > > decay over time. > > > --- radio radio wrote: > > > > > >> I want to buy a pedal and get into looping but am > > >> having trouble > > >> figuring out which one will best meet my needs (and > > >> budget). I've > > >> learned a LOT from this web site, but still can't > > >> quite figure out > > >> everything and would really benefit from a human > > >> (albeit > > >> computer-mediated) interaction. Thanks in advance > > >> for taking the time > > >> to read this and respond - I hope that I will be > > >> able to "give back" > > >> some day when I know something worth while. Until > > >> then, I guess I > > >> should donate to this site if I get any responses. > > >> > > >> From what I've read and thought about, it looks like > > >> what will be the > > >> most important distinction for me is that the loops > > >> will be able to > > >> decay. In other words, you can lay down a loop, lay > > >> down another one > > >> on top, and then another, and so on, and eventually > > >> the first one dies > > >> out, then the second one, and so on. I imagine this > > >> working like a > > >> delay pedal in which you can set the decay (or is > > >> that called > > >> feedback?). So you could "morph" over time into new > > >> things, without > > >> being stuck with your original loops, and without > > >> having to open a new > > >> loop and start from scratch with only one new track > > >> each time you > > >> wanted to change it up. > > >> > > >> The three pedals I've looked into are: > > >> > > >> BOSS RC20xl, Digitech Jamman, and BOSS DD-20 giga > > >> delay > > >> > > >> I thought the BOSS was it, but now I'm thinking that > > >> it doesn't allow > > >> this thing that I described. I can't tell if you can > > >> do this with the > > >> Jamman or not - does anyone know? You could do this > > >> with the DD-20, > > >> but I can't tell if you'd be able to set a > > >> loop/delay time up with > > >> your foot or not (versus having to set it to a > > >> certain number of > > >> seconds and then hope you can keep your riff to that > > >> length) or if > > >> there would be other difficulties that I'm not aware > > >> of if you're > > >> using this as a looping pedal when it's built to be > > >> a delay. > > >> > > >> Should I be considering a different pedal? I don't > > >> really need a delay > > >> pedal - I want a loop pedal that decays. I don't > > >> really need to be > > >> able to save my loops - I just want to be able to > > >> set them up on the > > >> fly. I don't need to be able to save them on my > > >> computer. I don't need > > >> to be able to plug in a separate mic or instrument > > >> in addition to the > > >> guitar, although that would be a definite bonus for > > >> me. I don't need a > > >> long amount of time - I'm guessing 23 seconds is > > >> plenty. I don't know > > >> if I need the ability to set up separate loops or > > >> not - I certainly > > >> wouldn't mind, but I don't know enough about using a > > >> looper yet to > > >> know about that. Also, how important is > > >> 'auto-quanitze'? Lastly, I > > >> don't have a lot of money to spend, so the echoplex > > >> is right out. The > > >> boomerang is also too expensive, and anyway I'm > > >> affraid of the noise > > >> issues that people have written about with that one. > > >> I haven't really > > >> learned about any other pedals out there. > > >> > > >> Thanks again! > > >> Eben > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > > > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. > > > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail > > > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 03:56:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 851A63BEEE; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 03:56:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=S6ZxCVfjylPVwOGgZt4jikS29D5eZgDFD1af98/nt4HG/qjIRjSA2Q3PABfWLy0g7TL4D7jeGSMKMsnnmIoQMV48bTWpYdc2UjRa3krIBlXiVDNy1pFM3Bn8337GzQG+JnDPx+cmndLicxFN3FqbapzAGNwXAS+q/uE1gjnPVuY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=nqOGzUgvtmg7n18WwcLJrafQSKXzumwxso4uPo8htHYbrih/lmud7bHiHC45yVlqW2sM6nNZU5F59FIS7Fmjzd4x9reWk/RfKJ63F/eGVYMWIzbBIxHlosbDD7aSVqX/dKhrNShrhXLj8Pz4DgHMPQhuagFUSHrl1UJBpTbBY2s= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:56:40 -0500 From: "Mark Trewella" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: FS: Looperlative MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 03:56:43 +0000 (UTC) Like new, never gigged and always racked. $1,200 shipped. The unit is great but I just want to sort of simplify my rig again, am going to go back to the EDP. If anyone has an excellent Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro Plus foot controller, full memory and loop IV I will consider a trade + cash for my Looperlative. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 03:57:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 33C163BF1B; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 03:57:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=rHyTFb+YCT54d3xLeFaqOCEgliI+JpEMVXQzxzBu16cQu2WWPWBxdVzczM0b0oeT0Wc9KGQ2kxL2lJWSa2A5jnEmQFfpcaaZBIveFocoHkqNpYXNvOsTHo3bTcH4SLM1ozJc9PxJWGBEqm2iUOqPlOoWtXMezYp7wCXTQ8Y6r8M= ; Message-ID: <20070309035710.71189.qmail@web34309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: mFXkYZgVM1ldcClv1pg.Qk7_PqJWONVqOdKKGksUWelUzi7TeFEIVJCqbhLqu2Jpd1Q7ZVU6DencMhL7jYEKB_esvrvW9zA5QV5YFmPb9vCUama92tdno6_cyGmokdLjbPt9Ju_m_zslkkZh_kAbtd2DaQ-- Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 19:57:10 -0800 (PST) From: ditch wrestler Subject: Re: Audient To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2052067567-1173412630=:70368" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 03:57:12 +0000 (UTC) --0-2052067567-1173412630=:70368 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yup! And, speaking for myself, I dare say I played rather well. ted. samba - wrote: Did y'all play for him? _________________________________________________________________ Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more….then map the best route! http://maps.live.com/?icid=hmtag1&FORM=MGAC01 "Indeed, naturally I think that a film should have a beginning, middle, and an end — but not necessarily in that order." Jean Luc Goddard --------------------------------- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. --0-2052067567-1173412630=:70368 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yup!  And, speaking for myself, I dare say I played rather well.


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Mail Beta. --0-2052067567-1173412630=:70368-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 04:25:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE8B93BEF7; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 04:25:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.45.125] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070309035712.CC8263BF19@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: audient incidents Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 20:25:01 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2007 04:25:07.0208 (UTC) FILETIME=[EACC9080:01C76202] Resent-Message-ID: <763USC.A.cDE.kGO8FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68834 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 04:25:08 +0000 (UTC) If musicians play slack cause the turnout is light,I'm less likely to support them in the future.There are other factorsif I know them I'll complain for sure.. But I'm more interested in the art than the glory. Once I was playing a reggae gig,with a brilliant Jamaican bass player.The venue was a little sports bar with a TVs everwhere you looked and less than a dozen people all at the bar in the other room, ignoring us. Reggae is simple enough that you have to put your emotional energy into it ,or it can get boring.We played for the joy of it-the music was great,world class,and we were having a ball.In the last half hour a young couple came in,didn't even look old enough to drink,and danced in such a purely blissed out state,that we all felt like it was totally worthwhile. We could clearly see that what we were doing really really meant something to these folks,and of course they said so after. That makes it totally worth it to me. You never know wether there's someone in the corner who you didn't even notice that loves what you're doing.Or maybe it was Ahmet Ertegun ,and he decided the performer's couldn't deliver the goods, cause their attittude was more important to them than the music. _________________________________________________________________ Play Flexicon: the crossword game that feeds your brain. PLAY now for FREE.  http://zone.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmtagline From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 04:45:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A028C3BF0A; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 04:45:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [207.90.215.35] X-Identified-User: {864:box76.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:webmail from 207.90.215.35} Message-ID: <20070308224532.ffszq7hs04g4wc8s@69.89.21.76> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 22:45:32 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: audient incidents References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 04:45:35 +0000 (UTC) Quoting samba - : > > If musicians play slack cause the turnout is light,I'm less likely to > support them in the future.There are other factorsif I know them I'll > complain for sure.. But I'm more interested in the art than the glory. One of my most memorable and personally fulfilling solo recitals was =20 when only one person showed up. Over twenty-five years ago I played weekly recitals for a summer at =20 the (then called) RLDS World Headquarters in Independence, Mo. A =20 number of us organists rotated for these daily recitals -- mine was =20 every Friday and the audience was mainly tourists who wanted to hear =20 "the king of instruments" -- a huge Aeolian-Skinner organ with over =20 6000 pipes. A man who lived nearby took a liking to my playing and =20 was among the people there every Friday. One Friday in late August he =20 was the only person who showed up. So, I walked up to him and said, =20 "Well, you know my repertoire. What would you like to hear?" Turns out he liked REALLY BIG works... among his requests was the =20 massive "Fantasy and Fugue on B.A.C.H." (Captain Nemo plays part of =20 this work in 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea). I will never forget that recital or the appreciation of that gentleman. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 04:51:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAA713BEF6; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 04:51:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: QH3UYywVM1lHAcrPbOHDv_fDVPr1rzYMKFzAQd52PSEZ2iFwIKDAWPl3NI.AjmyzgjxmngrFTz485RSlT0dU5RWYRjjFQwA5WOSorDI_Gkr5b.lRjNTM8p9No1mJDguLTNY3X4saVHuJiZtIS1wiMSJa Message-ID: <000601c76206$7a8ac8b0$4201a8c0@MichaelPlishka> From: "Michael Plishka" To: References: <20070308224532.ffszq7hs04g4wc8s@69.89.21.76> Subject: new tune: Grandpa loves grandma (and vice versa) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:50:35 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 04:51:14 +0000 (UTC) My latest fun looping tune is a play on the Ukrainian words for grandpa loves grandma (and vice versa). (Dido Baba Lyubyt') Respectfully submitted for your aural perusal... www.myspace.com/bohdanovich ~Peace~ Plish From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 05:28:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEB3C3BEEE; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 05:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45F0F072.1000706@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 23:28:18 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Composition Contest: in search of the lost chords References: <6.2.5.6.2.20070308003352.046db7c8@sympatico.ca> In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20070308003352.046db7c8@sympatico.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <_cLR3B.A.EuG.ECP8FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 05:28:36 +0000 (UTC) This is awesome, thanks for passing it along, Chris. I'm definitely going to take part. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > The following is exerpted from the blog called "Score", connected to > the New York Times online at: > http://thescore.blogs.nytimes.com/?excamp=mkt_at12 > > March 6, 2007, 11:13 pm > The ‘In Search of the Lost Chords’ Contest > > By > Glenn Branca > glenn@glennbranca.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 05:59:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4DDD93BF01; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 05:59:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=GqppJAgMrLoZlIDGUTNnWoXw2cjYZxwlLyksNkiMlFEaBHj9mdAXlrER9UAH2fIH+7Deh/rQUqfb9hgeD6+alvRXksO2KGFv6mZhWlQPT6Rn24Va7ccJ+AOrcMIwlJkhZtL1d1DkcCr78KNPlweJfVnvMZR81s8BmvoADQOpWY0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=rdaOddv122wuIEPyOtBnefkIxuxf7wYyi+V78+S66wk+gdOKjHr6orbcRRC7ABksBpBsi700i6VMsAWIEbNtM/inJOG14ZFoC2tUyjWiQSe2M8TyfhVWJXwxw4lRzOwXA72dL1hxT9xlk9zZMV/n4x3WDkw2+s74uzMzJ091AHs= Message-ID: <3fa302e30703082159k175a280cj6be869f33d530d73@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 21:59:36 -0800 From: Mikkoz To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looping pedal with decay? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_245433_16364495.1173419976317" References: <444811.64669.qm@web34310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <56432.167.83.10.20.1172595103.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> <00d501c761eb$976843b0$6401a8c0@homeanj> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 05:59:40 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_245433_16364495.1173419976317 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Very few of these true feedback units have multiple level inputs. We almost universally use a mixer to attenuate several inputs (eg. mic, guitar, line level stuff like keyboards and cd players etc.) and hang the looper on an aux send. (Or a pair of them if we want stereo, although there are all the attendant sync problems.) So make your life a lot easier and get a small mixer . . . you can even hang garden-variety guitar pedals on the aux, and loop away. On 3/8/07, radio radio wrote: > > I didn't know that - what does that mean? > > THANKS! > > On 3/8/07, arcmotion wrote: > > > > > > just in case you dont know ...the rc50 does true feedback but relies on > an > > external mixer to acheive this.....although i havent tried this out for > > myself yet....but others have and apparently it works. > > > > what also makes this interesting is that you can put effects on that > decay > > loop. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: radio radio > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:36 AM > > Subject: Re: looping pedal with decay? > > > > thanks for the replies! I think the Gibson EDP is out of my price range, > > unless I can find a rediculous deal on one on Ebay, but I am glad to > know > > that that the Boomerang does have a decay - I did not realize that. > Right > > now that may look like the best option, although I am a bit wary of the > > noise that many reviewers report as my rig is already quite noisey. > Another > > person recommended the Electro Harmonix 2880 or their 16 second delay > (and > > mentioned that the original lexicon jamman and the electrix repeater > also > > had a function to set the feedback). I'm glad to know that I what I want > > does indeed exist and for the help in narrowing it down. Now I can > return > > the looper I bought that I thought had a set-able feedback but does not > > (digitech jamman). In looking at these other ones, I can't tell which > ones > > accept more than one type of input ( e.g., instrument, mic, and line > > levels). I would want at least the ability to use an instrument and a > mic, > > although I wouldn't necessarily need to be able to do both > simultaneously, > > so long as I got quick at switching. > > > > Does anyone else out there want to weigh in on this issue before I spend > the > > money I don't have? The quest is for a looping pedal that takes both > > instrument level and line level and which you can set the feedback for > the > > loops (versus having them loop infinitely). I currently do not have any > rack > > equipment, is that a bridge I want to cross? Is there anything else I > should > > be considering in a addition? > > > > The ones mentioned so far are: > > > > Gibson Echoplex > > Boomerang plus > > Electro-Harmonix 2820 > > Electro-Harmonix 16 second delay > > Original Lexicon Jamman > > Electrix Repeater > > > > ????????????????????????????? > > THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > Eben > > > > > > On 2/27/07, mike@michaelplishka.com wrote: > > > If I read you correctly, the Gibson EDP does what you want and tons > more! > > > I upgraded from a Boomerang plus which does have the decay but you > pick it > > > ahead of time (i.e. 20 reps, 10, 1 or infinite I beleive) > > > > > > my 2 cents... > > > > > > Plish > > > > > > www.myspace.com/michaelplishka > > > www.myspace.com/bohdanovich > > > www.michaelplishka.com > > > > > > > The only things that I know of that will do what you > > > > describe are delay pedals. I think the Giga delay > > > > would be your best bet, but I'd also read somewhere > > > > that this one artist(I can't remebmer his name) uses > > > > Eventide rack mount processors set up with an > > > > algorhythm that was set with a 95% feedback so that > > > > his loops would decay over time. That sounds more like > > > > what you want, but that stuff is way expensive. Other > > > > than that, sounds like all you need is a digital delay > > > > unit with copious anmounts of time and to be able to > > > > set the feedback setting as needed to make the loops > > > > decay over time. > > > > --- radio radio wrote: > > > > > > > >> I want to buy a pedal and get into looping but am > > > >> having trouble > > > >> figuring out which one will best meet my needs (and > > > >> budget). I've > > > >> learned a LOT from this web site, but still can't > > > >> quite figure out > > > >> everything and would really benefit from a human > > > >> (albeit > > > >> computer-mediated) interaction. Thanks in advance > > > >> for taking the time > > > >> to read this and respond - I hope that I will be > > > >> able to "give back" > > > >> some day when I know something worth while. Until > > > >> then, I guess I > > > >> should donate to this site if I get any responses. > > > >> > > > >> From what I've read and thought about, it looks like > > > >> what will be the > > > >> most important distinction for me is that the loops > > > >> will be able to > > > >> decay. In other words, you can lay down a loop, lay > > > >> down another one > > > >> on top, and then another, and so on, and eventually > > > >> the first one dies > > > >> out, then the second one, and so on. I imagine this > > > >> working like a > > > >> delay pedal in which you can set the decay (or is > > > >> that called > > > >> feedback?). So you could "morph" over time into new > > > >> things, without > > > >> being stuck with your original loops, and without > > > >> having to open a new > > > >> loop and start from scratch with only one new track > > > >> each time you > > > >> wanted to change it up. > > > >> > > > >> The three pedals I've looked into are: > > > >> > > > >> BOSS RC20xl, Digitech Jamman, and BOSS DD-20 giga > > > >> delay > > > >> > > > >> I thought the BOSS was it, but now I'm thinking that > > > >> it doesn't allow > > > >> this thing that I described. I can't tell if you can > > > >> do this with the > > > >> Jamman or not - does anyone know? You could do this > > > >> with the DD-20, > > > >> but I can't tell if you'd be able to set a > > > >> loop/delay time up with > > > >> your foot or not (versus having to set it to a > > > >> certain number of > > > >> seconds and then hope you can keep your riff to that > > > >> length) or if > > > >> there would be other difficulties that I'm not aware > > > >> of if you're > > > >> using this as a looping pedal when it's built to be > > > >> a delay. > > > >> > > > >> Should I be considering a different pedal? I don't > > > >> really need a delay > > > >> pedal - I want a loop pedal that decays. I don't > > > >> really need to be > > > >> able to save my loops - I just want to be able to > > > >> set them up on the > > > >> fly. I don't need to be able to save them on my > > > >> computer. I don't need > > > >> to be able to plug in a separate mic or instrument > > > >> in addition to the > > > >> guitar, although that would be a definite bonus for > > > >> me. I don't need a > > > >> long amount of time - I'm guessing 23 seconds is > > > >> plenty. I don't know > > > >> if I need the ability to set up separate loops or > > > >> not - I certainly > > > >> wouldn't mind, but I don't know enough about using a > > > >> looper yet to > > > >> know about that. Also, how important is > > > >> 'auto-quanitze'? Lastly, I > > > >> don't have a lot of money to spend, so the echoplex > > > >> is right out. The > > > >> boomerang is also too expensive, and anyway I'm > > > >> affraid of the noise > > > >> issues that people have written about with that one. > > > >> I haven't really > > > >> learned about any other pedals out there. > > > >> > > > >> Thanks again! > > > >> Eben > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > > > > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. > > > > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" ------=_Part_245433_16364495.1173419976317 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Very few of these true feedback units have multiple level inputs. We almost universally use a mixer to attenuate several inputs (eg. mic, guitar, line level stuff like keyboards and cd players etc.) and hang the looper on an aux send. (Or a pair of them if we want stereo, although there are all the attendant sync problems.)  So make your life a lot easier and get a small mixer . . . you can even hang garden-variety guitar pedals on the aux, and loop away.

    On 3/8/07, radio radio <radiotelevision@gmail.com> wrote:
    I didn't know that - what does that mean?

    THANKS!

    On 3/8/07, arcmotion <andrzej@arcmotion.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    > just in case you dont know ...the rc50 does true feedback but relies on an
    > external mixer to acheive this.....although i havent tried this out for
    > myself yet....but others have and apparently it works.
    >
    > what also makes this interesting is that you can put effects on that decay
    > loop.
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: radio radio
    > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:36 AM
    > Subject: Re: looping pedal with decay?
    >
    > thanks for the replies! I think the Gibson EDP is out of my price range,
    > unless I can find a rediculous deal on one on Ebay, but I am glad to know
    > that that the Boomerang does have a decay - I did not realize that. Right
    > now that may look like the best option, although I am a bit wary of the
    > noise that many reviewers report as my rig is already quite noisey. Another
    > person recommended the Electro Harmonix 2880 or their 16 second delay (and
    > mentioned that the original lexicon jamman and the electrix repeater also
    > had a function to set the feedback). I'm glad to know that I what I want
    > does indeed exist and for the help in narrowing it down. Now I can return
    > the looper I bought that I thought had a set-able feedback but does not
    > (digitech jamman). In looking at these other ones, I can't tell which ones
    > accept more than one type of input ( e.g., instrument, mic, and line
    > levels). I would want at least the ability to use an instrument and a mic,
    > although I wouldn't necessarily need to be able to do both simultaneously,
    > so long as I got quick at switching.
    >
    > Does anyone else out there want to weigh in on this issue before I spend the
    > money I don't have? The quest is for a looping pedal that takes both
    > instrument level and line level and which you can set the feedback for the
    > loops (versus having them loop infinitely). I currently do not have any rack
    > equipment, is that a bridge I want to cross? Is there anything else I should
    > be considering in a addition?
    >
    > The ones mentioned so far are:
    >
    > Gibson Echoplex
    > Boomerang plus
    > Electro-Harmonix 2820
    > Electro-Harmonix 16 second delay
    > Original Lexicon Jamman
    > Electrix Repeater
    >
    > ?????????????????????????????
    > THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    >
    > Eben
    >
    >
    > On 2/27/07, mike@michaelplishka.com <mike@michaelplishka.com> wrote:
    > > If I read you correctly, the Gibson EDP does what you want and tons more!
    > > I upgraded from a Boomerang plus which does have the decay but you pick it
    > > ahead of time (i.e. 20 reps, 10, 1 or infinite I beleive)
    > >
    > > my 2 cents...
    > >
    > > Plish
    > >
    > > www.myspace.com/michaelplishka
    > > www.myspace.com/bohdanovich
    > > www.michaelplishka.com
    > >
    > > > The only things that I know of that will do what you
    > > > describe are delay pedals.  I think the Giga delay
    > > > would be your best bet, but I'd also read somewhere
    > > > that this one artist(I can't remebmer his name) uses
    > > > Eventide rack mount processors set up with an
    > > > algorhythm that was set with a 95% feedback so that
    > > > his loops would decay over time. That sounds more like
    > > > what you want, but that stuff is way expensive.  Other
    > > > than that, sounds like all you need is a digital delay
    > > > unit with copious anmounts of time and to be able to
    > > > set the  feedback setting as needed to make the loops
    > > > decay over time.
    > > > --- radio radio <radiotelevision@gmail.com > wrote:
    > > >
    > > >> I want to buy a pedal and get into looping but am
    > > >> having trouble
    > > >> figuring out which one will best meet my needs (and
    > > >> budget). I've
    > > >> learned a LOT from this web site, but still can't
    > > >> quite figure out
    > > >> everything and would really benefit from a human
    > > >> (albeit
    > > >> computer-mediated) interaction. Thanks in advance
    > > >> for taking the time
    > > >> to read this and respond - I hope that I will be
    > > >> able to "give back"
    > > >> some day when I know something worth while. Until
    > > >> then, I guess I
    > > >> should donate to this site if I get any responses.
    > > >>
    > > >> From what I've read and thought about, it looks like
    > > >> what will be the
    > > >> most important distinction for me is that the loops
    > > >> will be able to
    > > >> decay. In other words, you can lay down a loop, lay
    > > >> down another one
    > > >> on top, and then another, and so on, and eventually
    > > >> the first one dies
    > > >> out, then the second one, and so on. I imagine this
    > > >> working like a
    > > >> delay pedal in which you can set the decay (or is
    > > >> that called
    > > >> feedback?). So you could "morph" over time into new
    > > >> things, without
    > > >> being stuck with your original loops, and without
    > > >> having to open a new
    > > >> loop and start from scratch with only one new track
    > > >> each time  you
    > > >> wanted to change it up.
    > > >>
    > > >> The three pedals I've looked into are:
    > > >>
    > > >> BOSS RC20xl, Digitech Jamman, and BOSS DD-20 giga
    > > >> delay
    > > >>
    > > >> I thought the BOSS was it, but now I'm thinking that
    > > >> it doesn't allow
    > > >> this thing that I described. I can't tell if you can
    > > >> do this with the
    > > >> Jamman or not - does anyone know? You could do this
    > > >> with the DD-20,
    > > >> but I can't tell if you'd be able to set a
    > > >> loop/delay time up with
    > > >> your foot or not (versus having to set it to a
    > > >> certain number of
    > > >> seconds and then hope you can keep your riff to that
    > > >> length) or if
    > > >> there would be other difficulties that I'm not aware
    > > >> of if you're
    > > >> using this as a looping pedal when it's built to be
    > > >> a delay.
    > > >>
    > > >> Should I be considering a different pedal? I don't
    > > >> really need a delay
    > > >> pedal - I want a loop pedal that decays. I don't
    > > >> really need to be
    > > >> able to save my loops - I just want to be able to
    > > >> set them up on the
    > > >> fly. I don't need to be able to save them on my
    > > >> computer. I don't need
    > > >> to be able to plug in a separate mic or instrument
    > > >> in addition to the
    > > >> guitar, although that would be a definite bonus for
    > > >> me. I don't need a
    > > >> long amount of time - I'm guessing 23 seconds is
    > > >> plenty. I don't know
    > > >> if I need the ability to set up separate loops or
    > > >> not - I certainly
    > > >> wouldn't mind, but I don't know enough about using a
    > > >> looper yet to
    > > >> know about that. Also, how important is
    > > >> 'auto-quanitze'? Lastly, I
    > > >> don't have a lot of money to spend, so the echoplex
    > > >> is right out. The
    > > >> boomerang is also too expensive, and anyway I'm
    > > >> affraid of the noise
    > > >> issues that people have written about with that one.
    > > >> I haven't really
    > > >> learned about any other pedals out there.
    > > >>
    > > >> Thanks again!
    > > >> Eben
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
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    "Running scared from all the usual distractions!" ------=_Part_245433_16364495.1173419976317-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 08:35:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9A7E43BEF6; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 08:35:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAJqp8EXUSnIvk2dsb2JhbACPMAIBAQcODB6ZQw Message-ID: <45F11C4F.1010400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 08:35:27 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loop sync semantics References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_ImMuD.A.sdG.CxR8FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 08:35:14 +0000 (UTC) aaron leese wrote: > > 1 - unsynced ..... > > 2 - full syncronization ..... > > 3 - partial syncronization ... latching ??? ...... Here the loops are > also syncronized, but the pedal will start recording immediately once > pressed .... > In EDP speak. "Quantise" is when things are fully synchronised. "Rounding" is when an action starts immediately but lasts for a whole number of cycles. (in EDP, when you multiply a loop it keeps track of the original loop time which becomes a "cycle" within the loop) EDP is full of phrases like "SUS" and "reverse sniplets" andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 08:40:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 622103BF01; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 08:40:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [90.196.3.133] X-Originating-Email: [simeonharris@hotmail.com] X-Sender: simeonharris@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: From: "simeon harris" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: thanks...and another tune Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 08:40:19 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2007 08:40:22.0074 (UTC) FILETIME=[932BA9A0:01C76226] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 08:40:23 +0000 (UTC) >>On 8 mar 2007, at 14.22, simeon harris wrote: >> >>here is a new tune... >>http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/08_Mar_1644.mp3 > >A very nice piece! Listening to it makes me curios what it would sound >like if you did an alternate mix without the drums and the bass line? :-) > This is of course just a matter of taste, but I really like that fluffy >stuff that for now is being beaten up by the beats. > >Greetings from Sweden > >Per Boysen thanks for listening per (i can always rely on you for an interesting comment!). i know where you're coming from...i like the "fluffy" stuff too...maybe my next one will be "fluff only"...! sim _________________________________________________________________ Get Messenger FREE on your Mobile https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 09:30:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D2163BF19; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Z2NNs0UWKlm26fJngRGqxO/ykMoYVrfCiazztn6xP9ECjTy8P3UIuOC8iH7KlEinXVJsdpMw8mYRGulBUlrdaImIb1O+eihw3gCvRdW/ix8uMh/qZs0X7lpJXZ2xsTP2C1namRWtGPkVS4ZJoUairgeHBpt0NtLZM5veG/fgsFU=; X-YMail-OSG: y8LQ1KoVM1mIETOq2hOLfQjRgyCqn_yGILRpFxsJt492977kA3Msj5BtKDNFzkw8YAQdFo0A.ZLGik6y._aEansQnOlYqJ3XYTh2Hv.tM00w2hmz8mrRrMYXk2NKI2fi Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 01:29:52 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: FS: Looperlative To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <978944.3298.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Hey Mark are u in europe or the U.S.? --- Mark Trewella wrote: > Like new, never gigged and always racked. $1,200 > shipped. The unit > is great but I just want to sort of simplify my rig > again, am going to > go back to the EDP. If anyone has an excellent > Gibson Echoplex > Digital Pro Plus foot controller, full memory and > loop IV I will > consider a trade + cash for my Looperlative. > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 09:35:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BAC03BF14; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:35:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "nick@12testing.net" To: , "arcmotion" Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 09:35:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: looping pedal with decay? Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <45F12A46.32449.127C7B@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <00d501c761eb$976843b0$6401a8c0@homeanj> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:35:10 +0000 (UTC) On 9 Mar 2007 at 9:38, arcmotion wrote: > spend the money I don't have? The quest is for a looping pedal that > takes both instrument level and line level and which you can set the > feedback for the loops (versus having them loop infinitely). The Zoom G2 is dirt cheap and does what you want (you can also add separate echo to the input signal while it is looping) but it's only got 5 seconds of loop time. In normal delay mode, it's got 10 seconds. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 09:38:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFE323BEB0; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:38:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: Subject: RE: thanks...and another tune Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 10:37:33 +0100 Message-ID: <00b301c7622e$90d9d0c0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcdiK6OtFtk/yuWaRh2WXGxC+ZYrPAAAp8fQ In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:38:09 +0000 (UTC) > here is a new tune... > http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/08_Mar_1644.mp3 > quite textural (and loopy) thanks Simeon ... great stuff ... what I like as much as the loops/textures is the rhythms ... would you elaborate a bit on how you did them? Michael www.michaelpeters.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 11:21:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D87003BF1E; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 11:21:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [90.196.3.133] X-Originating-Email: [simeonharris@hotmail.com] X-Sender: simeonharris@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <00b301c7622e$90d9d0c0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> From: "simeon harris" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: thanks...and another tune Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 11:21:13 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2007 11:21:16.0459 (UTC) FILETIME=[0DA1E7B0:01C7623D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 11:21:18 +0000 (UTC) >From: "Michael Peters" > > here is a new tune... > > http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/08_Mar_1644.mp3 > > quite textural (and loopy) > >thanks Simeon ... great stuff ... what I like as much as the loops/textures >is the rhythms ... would you elaborate a bit on how you did them? > >Michael www.michaelpeters.de thanks michael! on this tune, the drums were pre-recorded loops. i mixed several together for each section, because i wanted something quite complex and even a bit mad sounding on this tune i use a variety of techniques for drums...sometimes loops, sometimes loops sliced up and triggered via midi (in Intakt), sometimes samples triggered by midi (in Battery), sometimes samples laid out in the arrangement window....usually some combination of all four... thanks for listening! sim _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving – check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 12:47:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE7393BF28; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=INbvZwym6pU0MVhn3QBLDQ31IGFP7ucJPe4N6no2B+RFmqlhDaJiZIGw2em0udaxubUoJG3WJ/j99vmj5RQ+QqtdGb2SaROvrLfrQh1o8p6bHmmVctPdR2b24K0N1KelVl2VluRT+N8wjFV9Za32p8wA5fFwHkzIigwugvt9xXI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=r49DOYKjy7lBBPNmTvLrrmTaL3K7cSjPVCpJopVC515feepp3wyVzoxJ75nndIB3vZi3wNe3aX4XMn/jF0zC0vYR28tAhe3lrkfkadctXm+41oCUDpA8pScJEhswVGbnUTyqDQvJNg3PeFc8I5VPGgfhK6teTmBZNDQRd09WRHI= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:47:35 +0100 From: "Arne R. Skage jr" Reply-To: arne@skage.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: stupid question number 12,439- URGENT In-Reply-To: <86D1D803-1BF9-4D6D-8CAB-7F1FA66F5820@fuse.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1111_18029262.1173444455361" References: <3F4C19BD-99F6-40EA-AAAE-904B15C705B9@zoekeating.com> <86D1D803-1BF9-4D6D-8CAB-7F1FA66F5820@fuse.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68845 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:47:45 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1111_18029262.1173444455361 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! loop5 ? what the heck? a 2007/3/8, monk : > > > i've been combing the EDP manual for the midi spec.. i just want to use my > midi pedals instead of the proprietary thing. but i can't seem to find the > obligatory table.. > > > i have found them online for the echoplex plus? are they same for the > loop5 version? anyone? > > > > > thanks in advance. > > > > > > > monk@Fuse.net > > > ric hordinski > > > www.richordinski.com > > > www.myspace.com/richordinskimusic > > > www.myspace.com/monasterystudio > > > > -- Arne R. 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    hey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  loop5 ? what the heck?
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    2007/3/8, monk <monk@fuse.net>:

    i've been combing the EDP manual for the midi spec.. i just want to use my midi pedals  instead of the proprietary thing. but i can't seem to find the obligatory table..

     
    i have found them online for the echoplex plus? are they same for the loop5 version? anyone?

     

     
    thanks in advance.

     

     

     



     



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    www.skage.com ------=_Part_1111_18029262.1173444455361-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 13:37:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3A053BF24; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:37:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3fa302e30703082159k175a280cj6be869f33d530d73@mail.gmail.com> References: <444811.64669.qm@web34310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <56432.167.83.10.20.1172595103.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> <00d501c761eb$976843b0$6401a8c0@homeanj> <3fa302e30703082159k175a280cj6be869f33d530d73@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 08:34:46 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: looping pedal with decay? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1038675067==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b5711203fde28ec97ed67fab15bd7020dc7de86ecd54ffd63cd307b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:37:31 +0000 (UTC) --============_-1038675067==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" The 2880 has 2 inputs, each has it's own level control. These are sensitive enough for microphones (with RS transformer!) In addition it has a stereo line level ( "aux" ) input. Made in New York by people with whom you can actually speak directly..... >Very few of these true feedback units have multiple level inputs. We >almost universally use a mixer to attenuate several inputs (eg. mic, >guitar, line level stuff like keyboards and cd players etc.) and >hang the looper on an aux send. (Or a pair of them if we want >stereo, although there are all the attendant sync problems.) So >make your life a lot easier and get a small mixer . . . you can even >hang garden-variety guitar pedals on the aux, and loop away. > >On 3/8/07, radio radio ><radiotelevision@gmail.com> wrote: > >I didn't know that - what does that mean? > >THANKS! > >On 3/8/07, arcmotion ><andrzej@arcmotion.com> wrote: >> >> >> just in case you dont know ...the rc50 does true feedback but relies on an >> external mixer to acheive this.....although i havent tried this out for >> myself yet....but others have and apparently it works. >> >> what also makes this interesting is that you can put effects on that decay >> loop. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: radio radio >> To: >>Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:36 AM >> Subject: Re: looping pedal with decay? >> >> thanks for the replies! I think the Gibson EDP is out of my price range, >> unless I can find a rediculous deal on one on Ebay, but I am glad to know >> that that the Boomerang does have a decay - I did not realize that. Right >> now that may look like the best option, although I am a bit wary of the >> noise that many reviewers report as my rig is already quite noisey. Another >> person recommended the Electro Harmonix 2880 or their 16 second delay (and >> mentioned that the original lexicon jamman and the electrix repeater also >> had a function to set the feedback). I'm glad to know that I what I want >> does indeed exist and for the help in narrowing it down. Now I can return >> the looper I bought that I thought had a set-able feedback but does not >> (digitech jamman). In looking at these other ones, I can't tell which ones >> accept more than one type of input ( e.g., instrument, mic, and line >> levels). I would want at least the ability to use an instrument and a mic, >> although I wouldn't necessarily need to be able to do both simultaneously, >> so long as I got quick at switching. >> >> Does anyone else out there want to weigh in on this issue before I spend the >> money I don't have? The quest is for a looping pedal that takes both >> instrument level and line level and which you can set the feedback for the >> loops (versus having them loop infinitely). I currently do not have any rack >> equipment, is that a bridge I want to cross? Is there anything else I should >> be considering in a addition? >> >> The ones mentioned so far are: >> >> Gibson Echoplex >> Boomerang plus >> Electro-Harmonix 2820 >> Electro-Harmonix 16 second delay >> Original Lexicon Jamman >> Electrix Repeater >> >> ????????????????????????????? >> THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> Eben >> >> >> On 2/27/07, >>mike@michaelplishka.com >><mike@michaelplishka.com> wrote: >> > If I read you correctly, the Gibson EDP does what you want and tons more! >> > I upgraded from a Boomerang plus which does have the decay but you pick it >> > ahead of time (i.e. 20 reps, 10, 1 or infinite I beleive) >> > >> > my 2 cents... >> > >> > Plish >> > >> > www.myspace.com/michaelplishka >> > www.myspace.com/bohdanovich >> > www.michaelplishka.com >> > >> > > The only things that I know of that will do what you >> > > describe are delay pedals. I think the Giga delay > > > > would be your best bet, but I'd also read somewhere >> > > that this one artist(I can't remebmer his name) uses >> > > Eventide rack mount processors set up with an >> > > algorhythm that was set with a 95% feedback so that >> > > his loops would decay over time. That sounds more like >> > > what you want, but that stuff is way expensive. Other >> > > than that, sounds like all you need is a digital delay >> > > unit with copious anmounts of time and to be able to >> > > set the feedback setting as needed to make the loops >> > > decay over time. >> > > --- radio radio >><radiotelevision@gmail.com > >>wrote: >> > > >> > >> I want to buy a pedal and get into looping but am >> > >> having trouble >> > >> figuring out which one will best meet my needs (and >> > >> budget). I've >> > >> learned a LOT from this web site, but still can't >> > >> quite figure out >> > >> everything and would really benefit from a human >> > >> (albeit >> > >> computer-mediated) interaction. Thanks in advance >> > >> for taking the time >> > >> to read this and respond - I hope that I will be >> > >> able to "give back" >> > >> some day when I know something worth while. Until >> > >> then, I guess I >> > >> should donate to this site if I get any responses. >> > >> >> > >> From what I've read and thought about, it looks like >> > >> what will be the >> > >> most important distinction for me is that the loops >> > >> will be able to >> > >> decay. In other words, you can lay down a loop, lay >> > >> down another one >> > >> on top, and then another, and so on, and eventually >> > >> the first one dies >> > >> out, then the second one, and so on. I imagine this >> > >> working like a >> > >> delay pedal in which you can set the decay (or is >> > >> that called >> > >> feedback?). So you could "morph" over time into new >> > >> things, without >> > >> being stuck with your original loops, and without >> > >> having to open a new >> > >> loop and start from scratch with only one new track >> > >> each time you >> > >> wanted to change it up. >> > >> >> > >> The three pedals I've looked into are: >> > >> >> > >> BOSS RC20xl, Digitech Jamman, and BOSS DD-20 giga >> > >> delay >> > >> >> > >> I thought the BOSS was it, but now I'm thinking that >> > >> it doesn't allow >> > >> this thing that I described. I can't tell if you can >> > >> do this with the >> > >> Jamman or not - does anyone know? You could do this >> > >> with the DD-20, >> > >> but I can't tell if you'd be able to set a >> > >> loop/delay time up with >> > >> your foot or not (versus having to set it to a >> > >> certain number of >> > >> seconds and then hope you can keep your riff to that >> > >> length) or if >> > >> there would be other difficulties that I'm not aware >> > >> of if you're >> > >> using this as a looping pedal when it's built to be >> > >> a delay. >> > >> >> > >> Should I be considering a different pedal? I don't >> > >> really need a delay >> > >> pedal - I want a loop pedal that decays. I don't >> > >> really need to be >> > >> able to save my loops - I just want to be able to >> > >> set them up on the >> > >> fly. I don't need to be able to save them on my >> > >> computer. I don't need >> > >> to be able to plug in a separate mic or instrument >> > >> in addition to the >> > >> guitar, although that would be a definite bonus for >> > >> me. I don't need a >> > >> long amount of time - I'm guessing 23 seconds is >> > >> plenty. I don't know >> > >> if I need the ability to set up separate loops or >> > >> not - I certainly >> > >> wouldn't mind, but I don't know enough about using a >> > >> looper yet to >> > >> know about that. Also, how important is >> > >> 'auto-quanitze'? Lastly, I >> > >> don't have a lot of money to spend, so the echoplex >> > >> is right out. The >> > >> boomerang is also too expensive, and anyway I'm >> > >> affraid of the noise >> > >> issues that people have written about with that one. >> > >> I haven't really >> > >> learned about any other pedals out there. >> > >> >> > >> Thanks again! >> > >> Eben >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >>____________________________________________________________________________________ > > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go >> > > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. >> > > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > > > >-- >Miko Biffle >Biffoz@Gmail.com >MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com >"Running scared from all the usual distractions!" -- ... http://www.zmix.net --============_-1038675067==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: looping pedal with decay?
    The 2880 has 2 inputs, each has it's own level control.
    These are sensitive enough for microphones (with RS transformer!)
    In addition it has a stereo line level ( "aux" ) input.

    Made in New York by people with whom you can actually speak directly.....

    Very few of these true feedback units have multiple level inputs. We almost universally use a mixer to attenuate several inputs (eg. mic, guitar, line level stuff like keyboards and cd players etc.) and hang the looper on an aux send. (Or a pair of them if we want stereo, although there are all the attendant sync problems.)  So make your life a lot easier and get a small mixer . . . you can even hang garden-variety guitar pedals on the aux, and loop away.
    On 3/8/07, radio radio <radiotelevision@gmail.com> wrote:
    I didn't know that - what does that mean?

    THANKS!

    On 3/8/07, arcmotion <andrzej@arcmotion.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    > just in case you dont know ...the rc50 does true feedback but relies on an
    > external mixer to acheive this.....although i havent tried this out for
    > myself yet....but others have and apparently it works.
    >
    > what also makes this interesting is that you can put effects on that decay
    > loop.
    >
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: radio radio
    > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:36 AM
    > Subject: Re: looping pedal with decay?
    >
    > thanks for the replies! I think the Gibson EDP is out of my price range,
    > unless I can find a rediculous deal on one on Ebay, but I am glad to know
    > that that the Boomerang does have a decay - I did not realize that. Right
    > now that may look like the best option, although I am a bit wary of the
    > noise that many reviewers report as my rig is already quite noisey. Another
    > person recommended the Electro Harmonix 2880 or their 16 second delay (and
    > mentioned that the original lexicon jamman and the electrix repeater also
    > had a function to set the feedback). I'm glad to know that I what I want
    > does indeed exist and for the help in narrowing it down. Now I can return
    > the looper I bought that I thought had a set-able feedback but does not
    > (digitech jamman). In looking at these other ones, I can't tell which ones
    > accept more than one type of input ( e.g., instrument, mic, and line
    > levels). I would want at least the ability to use an instrument and a mic,
    > although I wouldn't necessarily need to be able to do both simultaneously,
    > so long as I got quick at switching.
    >
    > Does anyone else out there want to weigh in on this issue before I spend the
    > money I don't have? The quest is for a looping pedal that takes both
    > instrument level and line level and which you can set the feedback for the
    > loops (versus having them loop infinitely). I currently do not have any rack
    > equipment, is that a bridge I want to cross? Is there anything else I should
    > be considering in a addition?
    >
    > The ones mentioned so far are:
    >
    > Gibson Echoplex
    > Boomerang plus
    > Electro-Harmonix 2820
    > Electro-Harmonix 16 second delay
    > Original Lexicon Jamman
    > Electrix Repeater
    >
    > ?????????????????????????????
    > THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    >
    > Eben
    >
    >
    > On 2/27/07, mike@michaelplishka.com <mike@michaelplishka.com> wrote:
    > > If I read you correctly, the Gibson EDP does what you want and tons more!
    > > I upgraded from a Boomerang plus which does have the decay but you pick it
    > > ahead of time (i.e. 20 reps, 10, 1 or infinite I beleive)
    > >
    > > my 2 cents...
    > >
    > > Plish
    > >
    > > www.myspace.com/michaelplishka
    > > www.myspace.com/bohdanovich
    > > www.michaelplishka.com
    > >
    > > > The only things that I know of that will do what you
    > > > describe are delay pedals.  I think the Giga delay
    > > > would be your best bet, but I'd also read somewhere
    > > > that this one artist(I can't remebmer his name) uses
    > > > Eventide rack mount processors set up with an
    > > > algorhythm that was set with a 95% feedback so that
    > > > his loops would decay over time. That sounds more like
    > > > what you want, but that stuff is way expensive.  Other
    > > > than that, sounds like all you need is a digital delay
    > > > unit with copious anmounts of time and to be able to
    > > > set the  feedback setting as needed to make the loops
    > > > decay over time.
    > > > --- radio radio <radiotelevision@gmail.com > wrote:
    > > >
    > > >> I want to buy a pedal and get into looping but am
    > > >> having trouble
    > > >> figuring out which one will best meet my needs (and
    > > >> budget). I've
    > > >> learned a LOT from this web site, but still can't
    > > >> quite figure out
    > > >> everything and would really benefit from a human
    > > >> (albeit
    > > >> computer-mediated) interaction. Thanks in advance
    > > >> for taking the time
    > > >> to read this and respond - I hope that I will be
    > > >> able to "give back"
    > > >> some day when I know something worth while. Until
    > > >> then, I guess I
    > > >> should donate to this site if I get any responses.
    > > >>
    > > >> From what I've read and thought about, it looks like
    > > >> what will be the
    > > >> most important distinction for me is that the loops
    > > >> will be able to
    > > >> decay. In other words, you can lay down a loop, lay
    > > >> down another one
    > > >> on top, and then another, and so on, and eventually
    > > >> the first one dies
    > > >> out, then the second one, and so on. I imagine this
    > > >> working like a
    > > >> delay pedal in which you can set the decay (or is
    > > >> that called
    > > >> feedback?). So you could "morph" over time into new
    > > >> things, without
    > > >> being stuck with your original loops, and without
    > > >> having to open a new
    > > >> loop and start from scratch with only one new track
    > > >> each time  you
    > > >> wanted to change it up.
    > > >>
    > > >> The three pedals I've looked into are:
    > > >>
    > > >> BOSS RC20xl, Digitech Jamman, and BOSS DD-20 giga
    > > >> delay
    > > >>
    > > >> I thought the BOSS was it, but now I'm thinking that
    > > >> it doesn't allow
    > > >> this thing that I described. I can't tell if you can
    > > >> do this with the
    > > >> Jamman or not - does anyone know? You could do this
    > > >> with the DD-20,
    > > >> but I can't tell if you'd be able to set a
    > > >> loop/delay time up with
    > > >> your foot or not (versus having to set it to a
    > > >> certain number of
    > > >> seconds and then hope you can keep your riff to that
    > > >> length) or if
    > > >> there would be other difficulties that I'm not aware
    > > >> of if you're
    > > >> using this as a looping pedal when it's built to be
    > > >> a delay.
    > > >>
    > > >> Should I be considering a different pedal? I don't
    > > >> really need a delay
    > > >> pedal - I want a loop pedal that decays. I don't
    > > >> really need to be
    > > >> able to save my loops - I just want to be able to
    > > >> set them up on the
    > > >> fly. I don't need to be able to save them on my
    > > >> computer. I don't need
    > > >> to be able to plug in a separate mic or instrument
    > > >> in addition to the
    > > >> guitar, although that would be a definite bonus for
    > > >> me. I don't need a
    > > >> long amount of time - I'm guessing 23 seconds is
    > > >> plenty. I don't know
    > > >> if I need the ability to set up separate loops or
    > > >> not - I certainly
    > > >> wouldn't mind, but I don't know enough about using a
    > > >> looper yet to
    > > >> know about that. Also, how important is
    > > >> 'auto-quanitze'? Lastly, I
    > > >> don't have a lot of money to spend, so the echoplex
    > > >> is right out. The
    > > >> boomerang is also too expensive, and anyway I'm
    > > >> affraid of the noise
    > > >> issues that people have written about with that one.
    > > >> I haven't really
    > > >> learned about any other pedals out there.
    > > >>
    > > >> Thanks again!
    > > >> Eben
    > > >>
    > > >>
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > ____________________________________________________________________________________
    > > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go
    > > > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.
    > > > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    >



    --
    Miko Biffle
    Biffoz@Gmail.com
    MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com
    "Running scared from all the usual distractions!"


    --
    ...
    http://www.zmix.net
    --============_-1038675067==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 13:41:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49AA53BF30; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:41:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <029e01c76250$a3a7b010$e701a8c0@pcfabio> From: "Fabio Anile" To: References: Subject: Re: thanks...and another tune Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:41:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2007 13:41:28.0896 (UTC) FILETIME=[A3D5EC00:01C76250] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:41:41 +0000 (UTC) You're great, Simeon ! I love both the 2 tracks you put out here in the last times. Best fabio http://xoomer.alice.it/eterogeneo www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ----- Original Message ----- From: "simeon harris" To: Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:21 PM Subject: RE: thanks...and another tune > > > >>From: "Michael Peters" >> > here is a new tune... >> > http://www.simeonharris.co.uk/08_Mar_1644.mp3 >> > quite textural (and loopy) >> >>thanks Simeon ... great stuff ... what I like as much as the >>loops/textures >>is the rhythms ... would you elaborate a bit on how you did them? >> >>Michael www.michaelpeters.de > > > thanks michael! > > on this tune, the drums were pre-recorded loops. i mixed several together > for each section, because i wanted something quite complex and even a bit > mad sounding on this tune > > i use a variety of techniques for drums...sometimes loops, sometimes loops > sliced up and triggered via midi (in Intakt), sometimes samples triggered > by midi (in Battery), sometimes samples laid out in the arrangement > window....usually some combination of all four... > > thanks for listening! > > sim > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Hotmail is evolving – check out the new Windows Live Mail > http://ideas.live.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: 08/03/2007 > 10.58 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 14:05:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3551F3BF21; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:05:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:MIME-Version:From:Subject:Date:Importance:X-Priority:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=DKAu1veRMyj37BA8bDSXtyg5eORvSuwNW2RgXRLpNNALs01e8XFrSkos0+xLHLAgfpdlE9mnlM3NJiAf5weHYFuUYrmiJihgGlq9a/S2+MPRzvIOZQ97X+cQP0b9OffhUen3YD9CaSBDIdSuDSiud7stSs7xxI9/BOJrPk80PbE= ; X-YMail-OSG: Q6UdvecVM1ksNLsgq7MvtDmLKgEWBc0tgEoS9qGzmcNAaX6hR0O4u6RqRrs6Gc7qvhF96pV62BPoGiJFlFd8UNaFiS8q8DBwD2oMNZFEhR5IA5PF60o9.KPxVfWJryfl3f9z30_r7HXe74Q- MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Murkie Subject: RE: audient(s) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:05:08 -0500 Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: <20070309140506.ABB353BEC1@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:05:11 +0000 (UTC) I have played to a audience of 3 who sat and listened and were engaged and = I've played in front of 10,000 people who were just there to party. As fun= as scenario 2 was, I'd opt for scenario 1 without a second thought. The college concert hall where I work presented Glen Velez a few years ago.= He was touring as part of a duo with a violinist who's name escapes me. = The school dropped the ball bigtime and did no publicity. There was one pe= rson in the audience and he was there purely by chance, and me (the stage m= anager). Glen's performance that night ranks among one of the 4 or 5 most = amazing musical experiences I've had as an audient. With so many things today that are competing for people's time/money/attent= ion I am always appreciative of anyone who makes the effort to show up. An= d of the ones who show up by accident but decide to listen. M TwistedAppleRecords.com= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 14:20:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DE303BF2F; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:20:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [90.196.3.133] X-Originating-Email: [simeonharris@hotmail.com] X-Sender: simeonharris@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <029e01c76250$a3a7b010$e701a8c0@pcfabio> From: "simeon harris" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: thanks...and another tune Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 14:20:34 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2007 14:20:34.0765 (UTC) FILETIME=[1A151FD0:01C76256] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:20:37 +0000 (UTC) >From: "Fabio Anile" > >You're great, Simeon ! >I love both the 2 tracks you put out here in the last times. >Best > >fabio >http://xoomer.alice.it/eterogeneo >www.myspace.com/eterogeneo thanks for the kind words fabio! _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail, News, Sport and Entertainment from MSN on your mobile. http://www.msn.txt4content.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 14:46:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E1C53BEFB; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:46:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: Subject: RE: audient(s) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 06:46:26 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcdiVGElntJ42QSZQ0Ox8A+UndDP1QABIMlw In-Reply-To: <20070309140506.ABB353BEC1@arsenic.violacea.com> Message-Id: <200703090649421.SM03904@quahome> X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: D73f3050c0000a69e.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:46:32 +0000 (UTC) As an audient member in the early 70's I attended a concert in Peoria, Illinois, with the Yard Birds (Jimmy Page on Cheerio's box guitar) , and a couple other hot bands of the day. There were so few people there that I stood with my arms resting on the front edge of the stage, and don't even recall rubbing elbows with anyone. Perhaps their publicity got totally messed up. But I definitely appreciated it. -Qua -----Original Message----- From: Murkie [mailto:sinister_footwear@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 6:05 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: audient(s) I have played to a audience of 3 who sat and listened and were engaged and I've played in front of 10,000 people who were just there to party. As fun as scenario 2 was, I'd opt for scenario 1 without a second thought. The college concert hall where I work presented Glen Velez a few years ago. He was touring as part of a duo with a violinist who's name escapes me. The school dropped the ball bigtime and did no publicity. There was one person in the audience and he was there purely by chance, and me (the stage manager). Glen's performance that night ranks among one of the 4 or 5 most amazing musical experiences I've had as an audient. With so many things today that are competing for people's time/money/attention I am always appreciative of anyone who makes the effort to show up. And of the ones who show up by accident but decide to listen. M TwistedAppleRecords.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 14:58:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEAFC3BF23; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:58:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:User-Agent:Date:Subject:From:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Mime-version:Content-type:Content-transfer-encoding; b=hIeQhgse/DEZv5Hw5WAJlgX9ARBSPyah7W6fEt0o6/wrZLPUK24LA/5TmljB1qrG8BzWC5GML5RRRROQuTZBVX+JBQehZkj8NPVWB0ymzg7wPyDQogxMNMXpInqkamGCb2048uwq8nO63rHPCrkrg2TvH8XNX+5O+RdHw5ZP4Lk= ; X-YMail-OSG: TzwTTtoVM1kpXTeX3hkMSN1eQb7FE0In1Qk6dlMC8HmL2fLPx8XEnck_vE9MeJYhQKwbcem5nxJTaUk3YNzm5TtOd1YvTMc7Mga_K72NrsDBZEeAb8._k4nKLiFZx_JLmpulu7ffBDry2hSHFTg0f_9Dqg-- User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.0.0.040405 Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 06:58:04 -0800 Subject: Re: FS: Looperlative From: Larry Stites To: Loopers Delight Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4u9r5C.A.6eB.BYX8FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68851 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:58:09 +0000 (UTC) Mark - are you in CA? I might be able to pick this up if so. Did you list this on Ebay recently? Someone from Loopers Delight was selling a looperlative described like yours about a month ago. Let me know LS on 3/8/07 7:56 PM, Mark Trewella wrote: > Like new, never gigged and always racked. $1,200 shipped. The unit > is great but I just want to sort of simplify my rig again, am going to > go back to the EDP. If anyone has an excellent Gibson Echoplex > Digital Pro Plus foot controller, full memory and loop IV I will > consider a trade + cash for my Looperlative. > Regards, Larry Stites Nevada City, CA 95959 ncnet@sbcglobal.net AOL IM: LESGGN From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 15:21:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 188A73BEFA; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 15:21:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20070309102741.027b5e20@sympatico.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 10:28:41 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Smart Subject: Re: OT: Composition Contest: in search of the lost chords In-Reply-To: <45F0F072.1000706@mhorse.com> References: <6.2.5.6.2.20070308003352.046db7c8@sympatico.ca> <45F0F072.1000706@mhorse.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-57BF3AC8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 15:21:27 +0000 (UTC) At 12:28 AM 3/9/2007, you wrote: >This is awesome, thanks for passing it along, Chris. I'm >definitely going to take part. Yeah, I don't really have the guts to well, compose something, but it sure sounds interesting. I'm one of those annoying "perfect pitch" types, so I like to shock myself out of my comfort zone of 12TET every so often. Chris -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: 3/8/2007 10:58 AM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 15:26:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92CE53BF20; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 15:26:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: 69.38.225.114 Message-ID: <45F17CA1.4000804@sarth.net> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 10:26:25 -0500 From: Sarth User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Audient References: <005001c761d3$780c8a70$16b2a8c0@netzrechner> <1137.69.59.206.219.1173405032.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <1137.69.59.206.219.1173405032.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070301010608020001020706" Resent-Message-ID: <2fxcnD.A.FXD.uyX8FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 15:26:38 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070301010608020001020706 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have to agree ... I once went and saw a friend of mine play at Cornelia street cafe, I paid a cover, ordered kindof an expensive dinner for myself and my date, and watched the first set. There were about 14 people there to see him and I guess Cornelia street has some kind of policy that if there aren't 15 people, no second set. So here I've paid a cover, drinks, food I didn't really want (for 2) and halfway through dinner the show is over, kaput. It was ridiculous ... the dinner and drinks we ordered significantly exceeded the drink minimum of 5 or 6 or more audients. I am never going to Cornelia street cafe again. It's been years and I've stuck to that, because I think that policy represents the absolute wrong attitude ... it's not about the people who aren't there, it's about the audience that IS there, that made the trip, spent the money, set their evening aside. It wasn't MY doing whether there were 2 or 100 people at the show, I was a customer who didn't get his money's worth, and worse, I felt like my evening was kind of stolen from me. So having been on the other side of that, I really try to put on the best show I can, regardless of who is in the crowd. Or un-crowd, as the case may be. -- Sarth improv@peak.org wrote: >> we have this rule: my quartet plays only, if there is more people in the >> audience then on stage. >> > > No offense, but that seems a bit harsh to the people who actually came out > to your show. I play in a 6-piece band, and we have definitely played to > audient's (I love that term) before, but we figure since we are there, we > might as well put on a show. Sometimes those are the most fun, once you > get past the sinking feelings of abject failure ;-). I remember one show > in the bay area, we were on the road from Oregon and played at a club to > 12 people. We went ahead and did the gig, the management gave us the > option of cancelling, we were playing for the door. We played pretty well, > and everyone of those 12 people bought a CD (some more than one) and a > T-shirt. Plus, they took up a collection, and bought us dinner from a > nearby takeout place, as well as numerous beers. We felt like we made > friends with everyone of those people, and they still come to our shows. > Now they bring friends! > > I just figure it's part of our job description to play the gig, no matter > what. > > >> when there is only five people present, we kindly ask them to introduce >> themselves. >> once we dedicated each piece to one of the listeners. >> it was fun. sometimes these mini crowds can be great. >> >> (once i played a duo concert for my mother, my girlfriend and the >> organizer. >> it was election night - no wonder nobody showed up.) >> >> tilmann >> > > > > --------------070301010608020001020706 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have to agree ... I once went and saw a friend of mine play at Cornelia street cafe, I paid a cover, ordered kindof an expensive dinner for myself and my date, and watched the first set. There were about 14 people there to see him and I guess Cornelia street has some kind of policy that if there aren't 15 people, no second set. So here I've paid a cover, drinks, food I didn't really want (for 2) and halfway through dinner the show is over, kaput. It was ridiculous ... the dinner and drinks we ordered significantly exceeded the drink minimum of 5 or 6 or more audients. I am never going to Cornelia street cafe again. It's been years and I've stuck to that, because I think that policy represents the absolute wrong attitude ... it's not about the people who aren't there, it's about the audience that IS there, that made the trip, spent the money, set their evening aside. It wasn't MY doing whether there were 2 or 100 people at the show, I was a customer who didn't get his money's worth, and worse, I felt like my evening was kind of stolen from me.

    So having been on the other side of that, I really try to put on the best show I can, regardless of who is in the crowd. Or un-crowd, as the case may be.

    -- Sarth

    improv@peak.org wrote: 
    we have this rule: my quartet plays only, if there is more people in the
audience then on stage.
    
    
No offense, but that seems a bit harsh to the people who actually came out
to your show. I play in a 6-piece band, and we have definitely played to
audient's (I love that term) before, but we figure since we are there, we
might as well put on a show. Sometimes those are the most fun, once you
get past the sinking feelings of abject failure ;-). I remember one show
in the bay area, we were on the road from Oregon and played at a club to
12 people. We went ahead and did the gig, the management gave us the
option of cancelling, we were playing for the door. We played pretty well,
and everyone of those 12 people bought a CD (some more than one) and a
T-shirt. Plus, they took up a collection, and bought us dinner from a
nearby takeout place, as well as numerous beers. We felt like we made
friends with everyone of those people, and they still come to our shows.
Now they bring friends!

I just figure it's part of our job description to play the gig, no matter
what.

  
    when there is only five people present, we kindly ask them to introduce
themselves.
once we dedicated each piece to one of the listeners.
it was fun. sometimes these mini crowds can be great.

(once i played a duo concert for my mother, my girlfriend and the
organizer.
it was election night - no wonder nobody showed up.)

tilmann
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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 15:47:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D2DF3BEFA; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 15:47:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 10:47:40 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: Re: Audient In-Reply-To: <45F17CA1.4000804@sarth.net> References: <005001c761d3$780c8a70$16b2a8c0@netzrechner> <1137.69.59.206.219.1173405032.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> <45F17CA1.4000804@sarth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20070309154739.B895E3BECF@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68855 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 15:47:40 +0000 (UTC) This is great, audient and now un-crowd, brilliant words. I played in St. Louis about 13 yrs ago, I think the people were preoccupied with the weather, in fact the next morning they closed the interstate when the flood waters went over the road. Anyway there was 3 people in the auditorium so I treated it more like a house gig and invited them to come up and sit on the stage and we swapped stories and played tunes; had an amazing evening! One of the best on that tour!! Paul Haslem www.dulcify.ca At 10:26 AM 3/9/2007, you wrote: >I have to agree ... I once went and saw a friend of mine play at >Cornelia street cafe, I paid a cover, ordered kindof an expensive >dinner for myself and my date, and watched the first set. There were >about 14 people there to see him and I guess Cornelia street has >some kind of policy that if there aren't 15 people, no second set. >So here I've paid a cover, drinks, food I didn't really want (for 2) >and halfway through dinner the show is over, kaput. It was >ridiculous ... the dinner and drinks we ordered significantly >exceeded the drink minimum of 5 or 6 or more audients. I am never >going to Cornelia street cafe again. It's been years and I've stuck >to that, because I think that policy represents the absolute wrong >attitude ... it's not about the people who aren't there, it's about >the audience that IS there, that made the trip, spent the money, set >their evening aside. It wasn't MY doing whether there were 2 or 100 >people at the show, I was a customer who didn't get his money's >worth, and worse, I felt like my evening was kind of stolen from me. > >So having been on the other side of that, I really try to put on the >best show I can, regardless of who is in the crowd. Or un-crowd, as >the case may be. > >-- Sarth From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 15:59:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D33D53BF22; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 15:59:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: M6sHBZ4VM1mzgeUGj74Af9Kg9bOHxpA.lwGeW9N1YSxdj4rnahl9Ali_0BPcUQCv_rAX14yGAfR6hR9kn2BChPq_2Kap497EA_Bxt0k4fUkFryaIjt0pL0s38AqJ0_lmk.nIX7v3fNhN96kLsZCAJBVMMA-- Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <25597278-4CC9-4FF0-9D18-0EC8F5CBA999@infinivert.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Josh Carroll Subject: Re: loop sync semantics Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 09:59:35 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 15:59:39 +0000 (UTC) I can't speak for the hardware loopers, but Mobius can do all 3 modes =20= in a manner of speaking, though it approaches them slightly =20 differently. The different "tracks" in Mobius are like individual =20 loopers that can run in or out of sync with eachother. Each can be =20 overdubbed or multiplied over. To get completely out of sync, you'd =20 be forced to use a new track, but for either of the sync modes you =20 describe, an overdub or a multiply can begin right on a loop point or =20= anywhere in the loop. --Josh On Mar 8, 2007, at 3:29 PM, aaron leese wrote: > > I wonder ... Do you suppose we can come to a consensus on the words =20= > that most concisely describe these "looping modes" ... though I =20 > guess even that phrase is suspect .... > > This requires a picture ..... > please see http://www.flyloops.com/semantics/loopingmodes.html > > Now for the questions: > > 1 - unsynced ..... this is what happens when you have two loop =20 > pedals in the same room, and neither one really cares when the =20 > other is doing. We have all tried looping in a band setting and =20 > for many of us, we thought we would be slick enough to have two =20 > people looping and stay in sync ... sadly it doesnt work that way! > > So ..... > > 2 - full syncronization ..... more advanced looping devices started =20= > syncronizing loops ..... that is, you can tell the second (slave) =20 > loop pedal to only start or stop recording when the first throws a =20 > repeat. This is the typical master/slave set ..... I think. > > 3 - partial syncronization ... latching ??? ...... Here the loops =20 > are also syncronized, but the pedal will start recording =20 > immediately once pressed .... it just knows to only stop recording/=20 > start playback when the master loop is at a certain offset ....... > > > > More importantly .... lets talk hardware ..... > > --- The RC20 and original boomeraang are of course, only =20 > layering ... so you could think of this as full syncronization but =20 > without the ability to have phrases of different lengths, or to =20 > turn phrases on/off once recorded ..... > > ---- The RC50 has 3 loop banks ... They are unsynced I =20 > believe ??? Or you can set a midi clock and preprogram a length?? =20= > Can they be different lengths then, but synced (like the EDP =20 > multiply function?). Forgive me, but I haven't checked one out yet. > > ---- If you have the cash two EDPS, you can have a master slave =20 > and set up the EDPs as fully synced .... > > ---- Mobius behaves as fully synced I believe ... though I have =20 > only used it a little. Do you have to preprogram the loop length, =20 > or can it just work off the length of the recorded "master" loop, =20 > and then go from there .... > > ---- Does anything do that other one ..... partial synced / =20 > latching .... I imagine Ableton could with some work ..... > > > Anyway .... I look forward to the responses .... lemme know what =20 > you think the proper words area here for what I call synced/ =20 > unsynced/ latching modes ...... > > _________________________________________________________________ > Win a Zune=99=97make MSN=AE your homepage for your chance to win! = http://=20 > homepage.msn.com/zune?icid=3Dhmetagline > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 16:02:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E2E73BF21; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:02:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20070309110915.02758640@sympatico.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 11:09:54 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Smart Subject: RE: audient(s) In-Reply-To: <20070309140506.ABB353BEC1@arsenic.violacea.com> References: <20070309140506.ABB353BEC1@arsenic.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-57BF3AC8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:02:38 +0000 (UTC) How many of you gig and do other musical things to make a living? Fine if you play one gig a month and are a dentist by day or something, but don't you want more butts in those seats, just to pay the bills? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: 3/8/2007 10:58 AM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 16:02:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E26393BF30; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:02:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 11:02:37 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #518 for March 1, 2007 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <45F1851D.9060305@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:02:44 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/070301.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, 92.9 FM on Service Electric Cable, and webcasting on the internet. Show #518 March 1, 2007 RECAP: On this show, I started a month-long focus on Paul Lawler. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Gather Darkness" by Arcane on NeuHarmony Records. The Vinyl Starter was from the LP "Kosmische Musik" by various artists on Ohr Records. Paul Lawler: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#mar PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Tangerine Dream] Sunrise in the Kosmische Musik (Ohr) Third System Rudy Adrian Summer Fields Moonwater (Lotuspike) IXOHOXI and Numina Stenness Watchstone Megaliths and Monoliths (none) Eric Wollo Red Odyssey Elevations (Spotted Peccary) Eric Wollo Novalis Elevations (Spotted Peccary) Alpha Wave Movement Sun Tempel The Regions Between (Harmonic Resonance) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Arcane Dystopian Fictions Gather Darkness (NeuHarmony) Arcane Gather Darkness Gather Darkness (NeuHarmony) Arcane Flight From Time One Gather Darkness (NeuHarmony) Arcane Requiem Gather Darkness (NeuHarmony) Arcane Time Will Run Back Gather Darkness (NeuHarmony) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Paul Lawler. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Bronx Shadows" by Paul Lawler on Ricochet Dream Records. The Vinyl Starter will be from the LP "Time Actor" by Richard Wahnfried on IC Records and released in 1979. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST (GMT-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 16:12:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C6253BF2D; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:12:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <13441.167.83.10.20.1173456756.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20070309102741.027b5e20@sympatico.ca> References: <6.2.5.6.2.20070308003352.046db7c8@sympatico.ca> <45F0F072.1000706@mhorse.com> <6.2.5.6.2.20070309102741.027b5e20@sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 11:12:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: OT: Composition Contest: in search of the lost chords From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32166 32167] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68859 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:12:44 +0000 (UTC) What was the original link here? I tried to search the archives but the word chord is quite common in this group;-) Thanks! plish > At 12:28 AM 3/9/2007, you wrote: > >>This is awesome, thanks for passing it along, Chris. I'm >>definitely going to take part. > > Yeah, I don't really have the guts to well, compose something, but > it sure sounds interesting. I'm one of those annoying "perfect > pitch" types, so I like to shock myself out of my comfort zone of > 12TET every so often. > Chris > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: 3/8/2007 > 10:58 AM > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 16:12:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 919673BF2F; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: BreachinThePeace@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 11:12:49 EST Subject: Re: audient(s) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1173456769" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5359 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:12:55 +0000 (UTC) -------------------------------1173456769 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I once saw Robert Fripp and The League of Crafty Guitarists. Less than 15 people purchased tickets and showed up at a venue that easily seated 300-400. Fripp came out, addressed the audience with complete and total dignity, then proceeded to blow everyone's mind. Strength in numbers is the motto operative of the local shepherd's union. There is currently no shortage of sheep. DrXPM


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    -------------------------------1173456769-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 16:18:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C443D3BF23; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:18:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45F188C4.4070900@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 10:18:12 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Composition Contest: in search of the lost chords References: <6.2.5.6.2.20070308003352.046db7c8@sympatico.ca> <45F0F072.1000706@mhorse.com> <6.2.5.6.2.20070309102741.027b5e20@sympatico.ca> <13441.167.83.10.20.1173456756.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: <13441.167.83.10.20.1173456756.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:18:18 +0000 (UTC) Below is the whole deal-i-o, one has to join the Times to see the online article so I've reposted Chris's post. Looks like basically you can just send a link to your recording to Glenn at his email address. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > What was the original link here? I tried to search the archives but the > word chord is quite common in this group;-) > The following is exerpted from the blog called "Score", connected to the New York Times online at: http://thescore.blogs.nytimes.com/?excamp=mkt_at12 March 6, 2007, 11:13 pm The ‘In Search of the Lost Chords’ Contest By Glenn Branca glenn@glennbranca.com The sweetest sounds I’ve ever heard are still inside my head.— Richard Rogers We discussed the widespread contempt in which ukulele players are held - traceable, we concluded, to the uke’s all-but-exclusive employment as a producer of chords - single, timeless events apprehended all at once instead of serially. Notes of a linear melody, up and down a staff, being a record of pitch versus time, to play a melody is to introduce the element of time, and hence of mortality. Our perceived reluctance to leave the timelessness of the struck chord has earned ukulele players our reputation as feckless, clownlike children who will not grow up. — Thomas Pynchon from "Against The Day” Yes, this is a contest. And it’s open to any and everyone. Here are the rules. Write and record up to three minutes of startlingly new and original instrumental chords. They can be scored in any fashion whatsoever, using any instrumentation or sound producing devices. You can submit a static series of chords or you can perturb the chords in any fashion. You can just submit one big gorgeous chord if you wish. The submissions can be sent here in the form of a posted link to a site where a recording of the piece can be heard (like MySpace, for example). Leave the link in a comment at the end of this post. Don’t send any music files. At the end of the month I will announce the winners on my last blog entry. I was hoping to be able to have some kind of small rewards for the winners, but it’s not possible at this time. The links to all of the entries will stay posted in the comment section so that people can judge for themselves if they don’t like my choices. But I will only post entries that seem to be within the spirit of the contest. [Legal Note: By submitting a link to music you represent and warrant that the music found there is your original creation and that it does not infringe on any existing copyright.] Anyone who can’t post an entry because they’re not a member of TimesSelect can just send the link to me at glenn@glennbranca.com and I’ll post it. In searching for lost chords there can only be one method, and that is the method that eschews all pre-existing methods. THE SECRETS OF HARMONY Are there natural laws of music? Are the rules of harmony like a science that reveals to us the inner workings of a system? Are modulations and cadences like formulae that will produce accurate results? Is the history of music more or less a map which if followed to a logical conclusion will leads us to the perfect destination? Or is music a mysterious, irrational problem that even a gifted savant could not solve without the help of an intuitive muse and perhaps a little white-hot inspiration? The secrets of harmony are buried in a safe place beneath hundreds of years of music theory. Originally theory was called counterpoint and was invented solely as an instruction manual for rural choirmasters. It was cheaper than commissioning the likes of a Bach to give your town its own musical identity. Since theory was necessarily derived from an analysis of previously existing music, then any music based on that theory must itself sound like the music that the theory was derived from. In fact that was the whole point. Of course my point is that if you want to write something that doesn’t sound anything like anything you’ve ever heard before then this kind of self-referential theory can’t get you there. But there are other reasons to support anti-theory. If there were a natural law of music it would be the harmonic series: http://cnx.org/content/m11118/latest/ Being infinite it contains within it all music: every interval, every mode, key or cluster in every possible tuning or temperament, all resonating in multifarious rhythms and melodies from a single fundamental tone. To create a system based on a particular set of intervals, chords or keys over any other is a matter of cultural preference that becomes entrenched over time, attaching meaning that is illusory. PSYCHO-ACOUSTIC SUBJECTIVITY Music must be heard. This is the corollary to Varese’s “music must sound.” Unlike the other arts music can never be literal. By its very nature it is abstract. But it can move a listener in ways that no words or pictures can ever do. When a major triad is voiced in a particular way and is heard in a resonant acoustic space, sometimes voices or even choirs seem to be heard. This psycho-acoustic phenomenon can be explained simply by the fact that the music is voiced in a manner that people associate with a choir. This is the reason why early dissonant music often reminded people of traffic jams, or certain types of clusters sounded to them like a swarm of bees. The mind must categorize what it hears based on previous reference. Music sounds like music because it sounds like music. Composers can’t ignore this subjective aspect of perception. But they can exploit it in the gray area between perceived musical sound and non-musical sound. This is the point at which a moment of perceptual tabula rasa can imprint music that’s never been heard before. FULL RANGE CHORDS Nicholas Slonimsky once wrote that it had been determined that there are 479,001,600 permutations of a single musical phrase based on the 12 tones of the chromatic scale. In that same light it can be shown that there are 4095 different chords that can be derived from those same 12 tones. But if one thinks in terms of chords that extend over the full orchestral range, using the 88 keys of the piano as reference, there are approximately 300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 different chords that can be derived from those 88 tones. That’s 2 to the 88th power. Of course this calculation does not take into account microtonal intervals which would increase the size of the number astronomically considering that it is possible to get meaningful audible differences down to at least an eighth tone. The point of such a demonstration, similar to what Slonimsky was trying to show, is that the number of possible chords is inexhaustible. And of course with timbre and orchestration introduced the potential is virtually infinite. AMBIGUOUS TONALITY One example of a chord that defies analysis is the “unison cluster.” This is a type of dense cluster in which the tones are placed very close together using small microtonal intervals. The effect is neither of a cluster nor a unison. But the sound is rich with a strange, singing choir-like quality. The clash of harmonics which occurs in a standard cluster does not occur here because the harmonic interaction that creates the harsh sound is so high that it’s outside the range of hearing. In fact this quality is at work to a subtle degree in the sound of an orchestral string section that can never be perfectly in tune. Some conductors will even use the trick of having the string players tune slightly out to get a “richer” sound. It is also why an out of tune piano can have an oddly appealing sound. A piano doubles and triples unison strings in most of the range. Music is not pure. It cannot be pure. Sound is noise. In the 70s it was popular for studio engineers to try to get the “cleanest” possible sound, a vogue that lasted for years and was a complete failure. The only clean sound is silence. Schoenberg in his “Harmonielehre” refers to what he calls “tone colors.” This was his way of describing ambiguous pitch or sounds that cannot be analyzed in terms of pitch alone. In fact he went so far as to say that there could be no system or theory to define such music. Ironically this work led to the rejection of tonality by many 20th century 12-tonalists and serialists. Instead of opening the potential for tonal variety it became severely limited. They believed that an ambiguous or neutral tonal landscape could not be achieved using consonant chords. They also had a reliance on specific pitch that could be dealt with like numbers in a mathematical equation. There is a reason why art is not science. To “prove” the efficacy of a musical pattern in some rational system means nothing if it sounds bad. Strangely few had seemed to notice the success that Webern had had introducing consonance into atonality. MATERIALS FOR BUILDING LOST CHORDS It should be kept in mind that when building lost chords the sound of a chord is relative. A dissonant chord can sound almost consonant when preceded by a chord or cluster that is far more dissonant. As well, a series of consonant chords can sound saccharine without contrast. Following are a few hints on mechanics: TIMBRE: The use of untempered sound such as steel chicken wire instead of guitar or piano strings, copper plumbing pipes, bowed cymbals or a kazoo, homemade instruments, “ethnic” instruments such as a hurdy-gurdy, bagpipes or sarangi, synth effects and EQ that can be found on any sampler to alter a conventional instrument sound. Altering timbre entirely changes the harmonic content of a sound. With this type of sound the fundamental often no longer dominates. The harmonic interaction is unpredictable and can create unusual relationships. MICROTONALITY: Tones based on the intervals of the harmonic series or any division of the octave smaller than a half tone. WEIGHTING: Using dynamics or instrument doubling, the balance of the tones within a chord can be drastically altered. For example if one were to use a cluster and a major triad in the same chord, emphasizing the cluster would give a very different chord than emphasizing the triad. Of course this technique can be used in far more subtle ways. VOICING AND RANGE: Three notes spread out over the entire range is a very different chord than the same three notes voiced within a single octave. A chord in the high range is very different than the same chord in the low range. This is not trivial. Voicing change and note change are equally important. Think in terms of a full seven-octave range. AMBIGUITY: This technique includes unison clusters and ambiguous tonality discussed earlier. Introducing an unfamiliar sound into a familiar context or vice versa is an effective tool. CHANGE: Here is a trick of the trade. When making a change always change at least two elements. This is the concept of contrary motion but extrapolated across the entire field of possible change. Combining these various types will give the best results. In short, composing lost chords requires attention to detail and carefully constructed contrast. Anyone who is interested in finding out about recordings of music that transcend the predictable can go to Massimo Ricci’s www.touchingextremes.org. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/713 - Release Date: 3/7/2007 9:24 AM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 16:20:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CEE823BF29; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:20:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45087.167.83.10.20.1173457234.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: <45F188C4.4070900@mhorse.com> References: <6.2.5.6.2.20070308003352.046db7c8@sympatico.ca> <45F0F072.1000706@mhorse.com> <6.2.5.6.2.20070309102741.027b5e20@sympatico.ca> <13441.167.83.10.20.1173456756.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> <45F188C4.4070900@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 11:20:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: OT: Composition Contest: in search of the lost chords From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32166 32167] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:20:41 +0000 (UTC) Thanks! > Below is the whole deal-i-o, one has to join the Times to see the online > article so I've reposted Chris's post. Looks like basically you can just > send a link to your recording to Glenn at his email address. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com >> What was the original link here? I tried to search the archives but the >> word chord is quite common in this group;-) >> > > The following is exerpted from the blog called "Score", connected to the > New York Times online at: > http://thescore.blogs.nytimes.com/?excamp=mkt_at12 > > March 6, 2007, 11:13 pm > The ‘In Search of the Lost Chords’ Contest > > By > Glenn Branca > glenn@glennbranca.com > > The sweetest sounds I’ve ever heard are still inside my head.— Richard > Rogers > > We discussed the widespread contempt in which ukulele players are held - > traceable, we concluded, to the uke’s all-but-exclusive employment as a > producer of chords - single, timeless events apprehended all at once > instead of serially. Notes of a linear melody, up and down a staff, > being a record of pitch versus time, to play a melody is to introduce > the element of time, and hence of mortality. Our perceived reluctance to > leave the timelessness of the struck chord has earned ukulele players > our reputation as feckless, clownlike children who will not grow up. — > Thomas Pynchon from "Against The Day” > > > Yes, this is a contest. > > And it’s open to any and everyone. > > Here are the rules. Write and record up to three minutes of startlingly > new and original instrumental chords. They can be scored in any fashion > whatsoever, using any instrumentation or sound producing devices. You > can submit a static series of chords or you can perturb the chords in > any fashion. You can just submit one big gorgeous chord if you wish. > > The submissions can be sent here in the form of a posted link to a site > where a recording of the piece can be heard (like MySpace, for example). > Leave the link in a comment at the end of this post. Don’t send any > music files. > > At the end of the month I will announce the winners on my last blog entry. > > I was hoping to be able to have some kind of small rewards for the > winners, but it’s not possible at this time. The links to all of the > entries will stay posted in the comment section so that people can judge > for themselves if they don’t like my choices. But I will only post > entries that seem to be within the spirit of the contest. > > [Legal Note: By submitting a link to music you represent and warrant > that the music found there is your original creation and that it does > not infringe on any existing copyright.] > > Anyone who can’t post an entry because they’re not a member of > TimesSelect can just send the link to me at glenn@glennbranca.com and > I’ll post it. > > In searching for lost chords there can only be one method, and that is > the method that eschews all pre-existing methods. > > THE SECRETS OF HARMONY > > Are there natural laws of music? Are the rules of harmony like a science > that reveals to us the inner workings of a system? Are modulations and > cadences like formulae that will produce accurate results? Is the > history of music more or less a map which if followed to a logical > conclusion will leads us to the perfect destination? Or is music a > mysterious, irrational problem that even a gifted savant could not solve > without the help of an intuitive muse and perhaps a little white-hot > inspiration? > > The secrets of harmony are buried in a safe place beneath hundreds of > years of music theory. Originally theory was called counterpoint and was > invented > solely as an instruction manual for rural choirmasters. It was cheaper > than commissioning the likes of a Bach to give your town its own musical > identity. Since theory was necessarily derived from an analysis of > previously existing music, then any music based on that theory must > itself sound like the music that the theory was derived from. In fact > that was the whole point. Of course my point is that if you want to > write something that doesn’t sound anything like anything you’ve ever > heard before then this kind of self-referential theory can’t get you > there. > > But there are other reasons to support anti-theory. If there were a > natural law of music it would be the harmonic series: > http://cnx.org/content/m11118/latest/ > Being infinite it contains within it all music: every interval, every > mode, key or cluster in every possible tuning or temperament, all > resonating in multifarious rhythms and melodies from a single > fundamental tone. To create a system based on a particular set of > intervals, chords or keys over any other is a matter of cultural > preference that becomes entrenched over time, attaching meaning that is > illusory. > > PSYCHO-ACOUSTIC SUBJECTIVITY > > Music must be heard. This is the corollary to Varese’s “music must > sound.” Unlike the other arts music can never be literal. By its very > nature it is abstract. But it can move a listener in ways that no words > or pictures can ever do. > > When a major triad is voiced in a particular way and is heard in a > resonant acoustic space, sometimes voices or even choirs seem to be > heard. This psycho-acoustic phenomenon can be explained simply by the > fact that the music is voiced in a manner that people associate with a > choir. This is the reason why early dissonant music often reminded > people of traffic jams, or certain types of clusters sounded to them > like a swarm of bees. The mind must categorize what it hears based on > previous reference. Music sounds like music because it sounds like music. > > Composers can’t ignore this subjective aspect of perception. But they > can exploit it in the gray area between perceived musical sound and > non-musical sound. This is the point at which a moment of perceptual > tabula rasa can imprint music that’s never been heard before. > > FULL RANGE CHORDS > > Nicholas Slonimsky once wrote that it had been determined that there are > 479,001,600 permutations of a single musical phrase based on the 12 > tones of the chromatic scale. In that same light it can be shown that > there are 4095 different chords that can be derived from those same 12 > tones. But if one thinks in terms of chords that extend over the full > orchestral range, using the 88 keys of the piano as reference, there are > approximately 300,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 different chords that > can be derived from those 88 tones. That’s 2 to the 88th power. Of > course this calculation does not take into account microtonal intervals > which would increase the size of the number astronomically considering > that it is possible to get meaningful > audible differences down to at least an eighth tone. > > The point of such a demonstration, similar to what Slonimsky was trying > to show, is that the number of possible chords is inexhaustible. And of > course with timbre and orchestration introduced the potential is > virtually infinite. > > AMBIGUOUS TONALITY > > One example of a chord that defies analysis is the “unison cluster.” > This is a type of dense cluster in which the tones are placed very close > together using small microtonal intervals. The effect is neither of a > cluster nor a unison. But the sound is rich with a strange, singing > choir-like quality. The clash of harmonics which occurs in a standard > cluster does not occur here because the harmonic interaction that > creates the harsh sound is so high that it’s outside the range of hearing. > > In fact this quality is at work to a subtle degree in the sound of an > orchestral string section that can never be perfectly in tune. Some > conductors will even use the trick of having the string players tune > slightly out to get a “richer” sound. It is also why an out of tune > piano can have an oddly appealing sound. A piano doubles and triples > unison strings in most of the range. > > Music is not pure. It cannot be pure. Sound is noise. In the 70s it was > popular for studio engineers to try to get the “cleanest” possible > sound, a vogue that lasted for years and was a complete failure. The > only clean sound is silence. > > Schoenberg in his “Harmonielehre” refers to what he calls “tone colors.” > This was his way of describing ambiguous pitch or sounds that cannot be > analyzed in terms of pitch alone. In fact he went so far as to say that > there could be no system or theory to define such music. > > Ironically this work led to the rejection of tonality by many 20th > century 12-tonalists and serialists. Instead of opening the potential > for tonal variety > it became severely limited. They believed that an ambiguous or neutral > tonal landscape could not be achieved using consonant chords. They also > had a reliance on specific pitch that could be dealt with like numbers > in a mathematical equation. There is a reason why art is not science. To > “prove” the efficacy of a musical pattern in some rational system means > nothing if it sounds bad. Strangely few had seemed to notice the success > that Webern had had introducing consonance into atonality. > > MATERIALS FOR BUILDING LOST CHORDS > > It should be kept in mind that when building lost chords the sound of a > chord is relative. A dissonant chord can sound almost consonant when > preceded by a chord or cluster that is far more dissonant. As well, a > series of consonant chords can sound saccharine without contrast. > Following are a few hints on mechanics: > > TIMBRE: The use of untempered sound such as steel chicken wire instead > of guitar or piano strings, copper plumbing pipes, bowed cymbals or a > kazoo, homemade instruments, “ethnic” instruments such as a hurdy-gurdy, > bagpipes or sarangi, synth effects and EQ that can be found on any > sampler to alter a conventional instrument sound. Altering timbre > entirely changes the harmonic content of a sound. With this type of > sound the fundamental often no longer dominates. The harmonic > interaction is unpredictable and can create unusual relationships. > > MICROTONALITY: Tones based on the intervals of the harmonic series or > any division of the octave smaller than a half tone. > > WEIGHTING: Using dynamics or instrument doubling, the balance of the > tones within a chord can be drastically altered. For example if one were > to use a cluster and a major triad in the same chord, emphasizing the > cluster would give a very different chord than emphasizing the triad. Of > course this technique can be used in far more subtle ways. > > VOICING AND RANGE: Three notes spread out over the entire range is a > very different chord than the same three notes voiced within a single > octave. A chord in the high range is very different than the same chord > in the low range. This is not trivial. Voicing change and note change > are equally important. Think in terms of a full seven-octave range. > > AMBIGUITY: This technique includes unison clusters and ambiguous > tonality discussed earlier. Introducing an unfamiliar sound into a > familiar context or vice versa is an effective tool. > > CHANGE: Here is a trick of the trade. When making a change always change > at least two elements. This is the concept of contrary motion but > extrapolated across the entire field of possible change. > > Combining these various types will give the best results. In short, > composing lost chords requires attention to detail and carefully > constructed contrast. > > > Anyone who is interested in finding out about recordings of music that > transcend the predictable can go to Massimo Ricci’s > www.touchingextremes.org. > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.7/713 - Release Date: 3/7/2007 > 9:24 AM > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 16:52:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 73F553BF1D; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:52:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 11:52:48 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #519 for March 8, 2007 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <45F190E0.1080003@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:52:52 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/070308.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, 92.9 FM on Service Electric Cable, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #519 March 8, 2007 RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Paul Lawler. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Bronx Shadows" by Paul Lawler on Ricochet Dream Records. The Vinyl Starter was from the LP "Time Actor" by Richard Wahnfried on IC Records and released in 1979. PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Richard Wahnfried Distorted Emission 1 Time Actor (IC) Parallel Worlds Beneath Fear Obsessive Surrealism (DiN) Phrozenlight Wetlands Dark Lights (none) ['ramp] and Ceasing To Exist Ceasing To Exist (doombient) Markus Reuter Paul Lawler The Shadow Bronx Shadows (Ricochet Dream) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Paul Lawler Ice Station Bronx Shadows (Ricochet Dream) Paul Lawler Messages Bronx Shadows (Ricochet Dream) Paul Lawler Deadroads Bronx Shadows (Ricochet Dream) Paul Lawler Capital Freeze Bronx Shadows (Ricochet Dream) Paul Lawler Run With the Hunted Bronx Shadows (Ricochet Dream) Paul Lawler French Garden Bronx Shadows (Ricochet Dream) Paul Lawler Beyond the Age of Bronx Shadows (Ricochet Dream) Reason Paul Lawler Slide Zone Bronx Shadows (Ricochet Dream) Paul Lawler Karma Bronx Shadows (Ricochet Dream) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Paul Lawler. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Future Wreck" by Arcane on NeuHarmony Records. The Vinyl Starter will be from the LP "Digital Moonscapes" by Wendy Carlos on CBS Records and released in 1984. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST (GMT-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 17:08:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 204A73BF25; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=opGCbXQ/jzRlqmZ//x58kIYeZ4Ys1lMt9u+045zJ+jTomISvwQHZZXNZMuz1a/fxWOW4aUvcIDz6MljTG2tW8MbVK4nD8tiuuVTWPIPrJ0ZmtvtIZK8Kt5h2EPbNU/Bh38EQlWNux+FeRs58qYRa8PXF8SM6jvT8NKVL8786oeQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=pWze1L/+PDPZeU0/J08Sd6KT8BXwmROcm7zi7NzR3rkPcOaVE7MtSG+9/ovC3kI9NgYGQdm91QVrdI3JfN73myWjZp6pYsyMzHRFYGQ0+z4a7as5aAvAkEiJSw2MborEzh48gmBB3hDq33h3NdiKnUt1xt+9Zahn2e1hAmL4rqI= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:08:25 -0500 From: "Mark Trewella" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Using 2 EDP's, not Stereo MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:08:29 +0000 (UTC) So a few of you may have seen my post about getting rid of my LP1 and going back to the EDP. It simply comes down to my looping style and what I want to accomplish etc. There are many things the LP1 can do that the EDP can not do and vise versa. Its a matter of style really. Anyway, I am considering maybe going to a 2 EDP setup. I need some advice from any of you guys running things this way. I have no interest in stereo but would be doing it to mainly expand what can be done with the EDP by adding another one. Any info from someone who has some experience with this would be appreciated! Thanks, Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 17:08:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F0EA93BF30; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:08:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [216.113.128.239] X-Identified-User: {864:box76.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:webmail from 216.113.128.239} Message-ID: <20070309110856.45skfq0moskgscsg@69.89.21.76> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 11:08:56 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Chris Smart Subject: RE: audient(s) References: <20070309140506.ABB353BEC1@arsenic.violacea.com> <6.2.5.6.2.20070309110915.02758640@sympatico.ca> In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20070309110915.02758640@sympatico.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68865 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:08:58 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Chris Smart : > How many of you gig and do other musical things to make a living? Fine > if you play one gig a month and are a dentist by day or something, but > don't you want more butts in those seats, just to pay the bills? To answer you question, I gig and do other things, musical and =20 non-musical, to generate income. I make a substantial portion of my =20 income on music performance and other musical activities. Generally the venue or event attracts the people -- unless a =20 musician's name is ubiquitous, most people don't know one from =20 another. They go out to a club, a church, a festival, or some event =20 and the music is "there". In my own experience, the music that I get paid to play is not =20 necessarily music that enjoy playing. I enjoy composing and =20 performing my own electronic/experimental music and to find outlets =20 for it, paid or unpaid, is quite a challenge here in Kansas City. I give every performance the same amount of attention and care. If I happen to play somewhere and you are the only person who shows =20 up, I will put the same care and effort into the music as I would if I =20 were playing for a huge crowd. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 17:14:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DF963BF30; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:14:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 12:14:39 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: paul Subject: RE: audient(s) In-Reply-To: <20070309110856.45skfq0moskgscsg@69.89.21.76> References: <20070309140506.ABB353BEC1@arsenic.violacea.com> <6.2.5.6.2.20070309110915.02758640@sympatico.ca> <20070309110856.45skfq0moskgscsg@69.89.21.76> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: <20070309171439.A2A783BEC2@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0zgoGD.A.O4C.AYZ8FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:14:41 +0000 (UTC) At the time of that story that I related I was playing for a living, actually was fortunate enough to make a living playing hammered dulcimer for over 10 yrs and got tired of having to do "on demand" music.... So I went back to a day job so that I could devote my creative side to doing music and gigs that I found interesting. Paul Haslem www.dulcify.ca At 12:08 PM 3/9/2007, you wrote: >Quoting Chris Smart : > >>How many of you gig and do other musical things to make a living? Fine >>if you play one gig a month and are a dentist by day or something, but >>don't you want more butts in those seats, just to pay the bills? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 17:22:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC5373BF35; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:22:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=EF3+MIEgVGuvYyRIFmXgj4wTsWZlp1A8ofzkfbqrGNIRUx26sHsSoGcWVrU6FtvQP8kado2sjuN2A9ZtAwb9oCHaUHjHw6aNcv3K9J+Q1xW0OKqu/qGNAaYSYqbRlvCZpRiv75+Z7inE0njmqczm4e/mZmbZF6CVAcVXWQfdUuw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=jea+xB5DuRjCTygdC1/ye5+VLizbc3eJ+LGbQmFQX50EaHdB/g32l0948eADdu+76O1O3qkpf/hrhHLZtmwwiS1sGYr5faceyNbpDhp251+2I6/Sj+zbVOiuPl0UdBni+vc3J5RrxLF8ikEqdSs2VzupdWSyTycDzuaL+C9VDbw= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:22:38 -0500 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Places to play MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_53_20080659.1173460958692" Resent-Message-ID: <1XUUsC.A.HaD.gfZ8FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:22:40 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_53_20080659.1173460958692 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hey all, My brother and I are starting to consider trying to play out. We'd like to do avant/looping/soundscape/spoken word/weirdness gigs in the Philly/Baltimore/DC area. Does anybody know places that we should approach? Thanks, -- -==-=-=- Tony ------=_Part_53_20080659.1173460958692 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hey all,

    My brother and I are starting to consider trying to play out.  We'd like to do avant/looping/soundscape/spoken word/weirdness gigs in the Philly/Baltimore/DC area.  Does anybody know places that we should approach? 

    Thanks,

    --
    -==-=-=-
    Tony ------=_Part_53_20080659.1173460958692-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 17:32:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A36BC3BF2F; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:32:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=T7m32q/V7v/XcTwY1jtgDSQo48B5R+bC94m4S9BqOTXWA1eouXoqrTxq2R66KbMwQ5tZkgtOxPxWBN3gM7fhaxPBTU1GZbG8pH9ruqHwKCkyj+kq2EzX4wBdhVZMS6NdLMyLwUc9XXKh4mNdU0Lp/NywjGjDCukXn9TWP2g3HB8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=TX9OdaonvmFGqIqab1LzdYoWxWoVwwVqP5zPuUXjvXvancREvhcGaRPATz6hm9nZrxfa17aPMef4CugPIODdDFtDHJAFQRzaFrJKholJTyiQ2PkyzIvAPHYVA8dJqgKYOWgNIWvu7Zdvapl6fRh3VaP6xbOYbVZ9utfMSFQaJYA= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:32:03 -0500 From: "Grahame Davies" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Places to play In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_109_27437876.1173461523016" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:32:04 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_109_27437876.1173461523016 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hey Tony You could try the Galaxy Hut in Arlington - they're open to all kinds of stuff and very supportive of local musicians. myspace.com/galaxyhut Good luck, -- Grahame On 3/9/07, Tony K wrote: > > Hey all, > > My brother and I are starting to consider trying to play out. We'd like > to do avant/looping/soundscape/spoken word/weirdness gigs in the > Philly/Baltimore/DC area. Does anybody know places that we should > approach? > > Thanks, > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony ------=_Part_109_27437876.1173461523016 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
     
     
    Hey Tony
     
    You could try the Galaxy Hut in Arlington -  they're open to all kinds of stuff and very supportive of local musicians.
     
     
     
    Good luck,
     
     
    -- Grahame


     
    On 3/9/07, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote:
    Hey all,

    My brother and I are starting to consider trying to play out.  We'd like to do avant/looping/soundscape/spoken word/weirdness gigs in the Philly/Baltimore/DC area.  Does anybody know places that we should approach? 

    Thanks,

    --
    -==-=-=-
    Tony

    ------=_Part_109_27437876.1173461523016-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 17:38:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D49083BF38; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:38:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=J/QWLSYHJc+DwYObyqNKn7QABZaeQtNrZaUUMX8vPqyQcnJ/2LuK0ziTyl5ifY90FSYHdXx1sB41u7PX3XV2iBcmC+rKvdtQ1kmyD1qmeRTeLXmINQmdWFAobUwwIFHhH2mLMO9de5lpyZmg5dcfnbNgiuiGOVsB6i58LzGvxLw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=eOEQPNY++jwfVcJN68wlL4NVdfDvhMPy0cm4RtXXAM7KLg6LHbi/o8F5qKBXKmt7bKL0AiyI01IGo/uSmSmmWjQTVudN3YltxUwUFkY7WmWVlx1GgcOAfiABVJY30PmNtgd13pHL00dpLPvZlr9qp82Td9Mdsu+I51r29mlO3+U= Message-ID: <9e0440a60703090937g1f10fe5cpbe082e04a1bc5216@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:37:59 -0500 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Places to play In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8037_32750331.1173461879500" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:38:03 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_8037_32750331.1173461879500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline This is a definite place to try to get into in that area Tony, http://www.redroom.org/. I'm based in NY and have them on my pitch list when I think I can get another gig down there or get in there myself. THey are also involved in an experimental festival that would be a worthy quest. This is in Baltimore. Best with all Jim Goodin composer/guitarist http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com On 3/9/07, Tony K wrote: > > Hey all, > > My brother and I are starting to consider trying to play out. We'd like > to do avant/looping/soundscape/spoken word/weirdness gigs in the > Philly/Baltimore/DC area. Does anybody know places that we should > approach? > > Thanks, > > -- > -==-=-=- > Tony -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com Associates and friends on the web - Daryl Shawn - http://www.swanwelder.com Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com ------=_Part_8037_32750331.1173461879500 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    This is a definite place to try to get into in that area Tony, http://www.redroom.org/.  I'm based in NY and have them on my pitch list when I think I can get another gig down there or get in there myself.  THey are also involved in an experimental festival that would be a worthy quest.
     
    This is in Baltimore.
     
    Best with all
     
    Jim Goodin
    composer/guitarist


     
    On 3/9/07, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com> wrote:
    Hey all,

    My brother and I are starting to consider trying to play out.  We'd like to do avant/looping/soundscape/spoken word/weirdness gigs in the Philly/Baltimore/DC area.  Does anybody know places that we should approach? 

    Thanks,

    --
    -==-=-=-
    Tony



    --
    The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
    MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
    Chinapainting -
    http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
    Chinapainting on My Space -
    http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
    The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
    Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com , Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com

    Associates and friends on the web -
    Daryl Shawn -
    http://www.swanwelder.com
    Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com
    John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com
    Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net
    Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com
    Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com
    New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com ------=_Part_8037_32750331.1173461879500-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 17:46:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1EED3BF2B; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:46:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAANss8UXUSnIvk2dsb2JhbACPOQEBAQEHDgcFHplr Message-ID: <45F19D8B.4000400@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 17:46:51 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Using 2 EDP's, not Stereo References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:46:37 +0000 (UTC) Mark Trewella wrote: > Anyway, I am considering maybe going to a 2 EDP setup. I need some > advice from any of you guys running things this way. I have no > interest in stereo but would be doing it to mainly expand what can be > done with the EDP by adding another one. Any info from someone who > has some experience with this would be appreciated! Thanks, Well, there's lots of things you could do. Synchronize for multitracking for instance. Or synchronize in a polyrhythmic relationship. Usually I run just them in stereo, but then it's nice to do stuff like reversing one against the other. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 17:55:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55C003BF38; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:55:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=L1jCv+VaCg3ZpMKcqhmAoDwPgmqmskLzNdoNHSq2QwjmgETKY2YWIOBP9ylfnenwCBXYOSeNPoucUmyTI/eYHy+EK/Ze4cTWfQrkbW6T7ng299/PEcKTk+LjuHv/MtJbdeuV5MNVQvloxnRMO0PARNi0eoN8jSVJWqYwiPYW6mM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=coe9l9fouEHVbIPtkGcvO+L2/gDCtIhe+HmoTuKNZsdFTsQsATRQ9PyAz3/l5eyfj6MLsIAXgDoRrhbgdHwNEEdX9iRG5KKdNnUygFpGK3b5v7oCBS56S62Imsx0YejDi+VMEKqx3dUKMw5Pq3UlS9WrDHOWEf2RmZGmiyx6rQU= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:55:12 -0500 From: "Mark Trewella" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FS: Looperlative In-Reply-To: <978944.3298.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <978944.3298.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0fxgKD.A.2zF.H-Z8FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68871 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:55:20 +0000 (UTC) I am in the US On 3/9/07, L.A. Angulo wrote: > Hey Mark are u in europe or the U.S.? > > --- Mark Trewella wrote: > > > Like new, never gigged and always racked. $1,200 > > shipped. The unit > > is great but I just want to sort of simplify my rig > > again, am going to > > go back to the EDP. If anyone has an excellent > > Gibson Echoplex > > Digital Pro Plus foot controller, full memory and > > loop IV I will > > consider a trade + cash for my Looperlative. > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels > in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. > http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 17:59:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 770793BF14; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:59:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pfv0GLC94tphmcZCIyPmunSxW8VPVm2b5UiEAdFhrIf5/h1A0OLjvpV9T175TOMSu3NhRjtzExK3utOzJYEa+2e5B26Qe+wchir99vjzP8phzda6/1kU4KXIG6G/KRKxs6LDeq/Yf54moFw5t+h4FoCaomPqrrG0I6i9r6l1QS8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ohafLaUVZjuRC/5JJOPrJYaNmWDYRRD6GQ+PiJXBe9rLet57u6r1tB3g9wowVQJztd+5bN3eHssUSXz33fcB0NT/RBmd5FOQzrUc89Sf3r4B8sHpyfM9zE9DQiZe/3E3vYIWRsGYfXPizU1/0b6VHpVCLq3Xv4/35PDlTnErD2k= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:59:12 -0500 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Places to play In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60703090937g1f10fe5cpbe082e04a1bc5216@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_621_4244162.1173463152156" References: <9e0440a60703090937g1f10fe5cpbe082e04a1bc5216@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0miU0D.A.7NG.zBa8FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68872 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:59:16 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_621_4244162.1173463152156 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks for the quick responses! For anybody interested and hasn't checked us out yet, you can hear some stuff at: http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/Manifestations.mp3 http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/WashedAway.mp3 http://www.myspace.com/antkneestudios http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/music.htm Yes, there's looping in there. :) Tony On 3/9/07, Jim Goodin wrote: > > This is a definite place to try to get into in that area Tony, > http://www.redroom.org/. I'm based in NY and have them on my pitch list > when I think I can get another gig down there or get in there myself. THey > are also involved in an experimental festival that would be a worthy quest. > > This is in Baltimore. > > Best with all > > Jim Goodin > composer/guitarist > http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > > On 3/9/07, Tony K wrote: > > > > Hey all, > > > > My brother and I are starting to consider trying to play out. We'd like > > to do avant/looping/soundscape/spoken word/weirdness gigs in the > > Philly/Baltimore/DC area. Does anybody know places that we should > > approach? > > > > Thanks, > > > > -- > > -==-=-=- > > Tony > > > > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull > Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com , Jim Goodin is published by Mel > Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > > Associates and friends on the web - > Daryl Shawn - > http://www.swanwelder.com > Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com > John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com > Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net > Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com > Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com > New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com -- -==-=-=- Tony ------=_Part_621_4244162.1173463152156 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Thanks for the quick responses!

    For anybody interested and hasn't checked us out yet,  you can hear some stuff at:


    http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/Manifestations.mp3
    http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/WashedAway.mp3
    http://www.myspace.com/antkneestudios
    http://www.thinginajar.com/bigtony/music.htm

    Yes, there's looping in there. :)

    Tony



    On 3/9/07, Jim Goodin < jimgoodinmusic@gmail.com> wrote:
    This is a definite place to try to get into in that area Tony, http://www.redroom.org/.  I'm based in NY and have them on my pitch list when I think I can get another gig down there or get in there myself.  THey are also involved in an experimental festival that would be a worthy quest.
     
    This is in Baltimore.
     
    Best with all
     
    Jim Goodin
    composer/guitarist


     
    On 3/9/07, Tony K <bigtonyk@gmail.com > wrote:
    Hey all,

    My brother and I are starting to consider trying to play out.  We'd like to do avant/looping/soundscape/spoken word/weirdness gigs in the Philly/Baltimore/DC area.  Does anybody know places that we should approach? 

    Thanks,

    --
    -==-=-=-
    Tony



    --
    The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
    MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
    Chinapainting -
    http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
    Chinapainting on My Space -
    http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
    The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
    Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com , Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com

    Associates and friends on the web -
    Daryl Shawn -
    http://www.swanwelder.com
    Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com
    John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com
    Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net
    Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com
    Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com
    New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com



    --
    -==-=-=-
    Tony ------=_Part_621_4244162.1173463152156-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 18:47:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DE6CB3BEFA; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 18:47:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45F1B874.40309@pa.msu.edu> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 13:41:40 -0600 From: John McIntyre User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: inaccessability of music References: <20070308143918.46976.qmail@web34313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20070308143918.46976.qmail@web34313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus: None found by Clam AV Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 18:47:27 +0000 (UTC) Well, if we're going to play "Top this"... (-8 I once played a gig where no one showed up. It was at a movie theater where myself and a musical friend were going to play a live soundtrack to a pair of silent Western movies. There were to be two performances, one on Saturday and one on Sunday. For Saturday's performance, no audience members showed up. With the theater owner's kind permisson, we used Saturday as a rehearsal; i.e., he ran the film and we played along. For Sunday's performance, about three people showed up. John McIntyre mcintyre@pa.msu.edu From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 18:51:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 398F83BF29; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 18:51:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Message-Id: <1d40811d63f05aa4aacdd17da504aa31@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: Re: Places to play Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 11:51:44 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 18:51:49 +0000 (UTC) Tony; There's a few organizations in Phila. that promote what you might be up=20= to (as of a couple years ago, anyway). "IMP", "Gate to Moonbase=20 Alpha" concert series (University of Pa.), and "Star's End" (Chuck=20 vanZyle - Univ. of Pa.). Not sure of the contacts - been a couple=20 years since I lived back east. - Paul On Mar 9, 2007, at 10:22 AM, Tony K wrote: > Hey all, > > My brother and I are starting to consider trying to play out.=A0 We'd=20= > like to do avant/looping/soundscape/spoken word/weirdness gigs in the=20= > Philly/Baltimore/DC area.=A0 Does anybody know places that we should=20= > approach?=A0 > > Thanks, > > --=20 > -=3D=3D-=3D-=3D- > Tony= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 18:58:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C0CA83BF36; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 18:58:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45F1BAF9.6030808@pa.msu.edu> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 13:52:25 -0600 From: John McIntyre User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: derek bailey References: <541775.33143.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <541775.33143.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus: None found by Clam AV Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 18:58:17 +0000 (UTC) ditch wrestler wrote: > It's a great book and highly recommended for anybody that is > interested in non-idiomatic playing. (That's Derek's term for his > style of playing - he didn't like the term 'free jazz'. I don't much > care for the term either but it's the term that most people recognize...) > For a while I was using the phrase "Free jazz? No, we prefer getting paid", but then I heard someone describe their music as "free range jazz" which I think is better. John McIntyre mcintyre@pa.msu.edu From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 19:14:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 25A2E3BF3C; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 19:14:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <2586.69.59.206.219.1173467674.squirrel@webmail.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <45F1BAF9.6030808@pa.msu.edu> References: <541775.33143.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45F1BAF9.6030808@pa.msu.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 11:14:34 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: derek bailey From: improv@peak.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-smtp-out.server.peak.org-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-smtp-out.server.peak.org-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-smtp-out.server.peak.org-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.438, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60, NO_REAL_NAME 0.96) X-smtp-out.server.peak.org-MailScanner-From: improv@peak.org X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Score: 1.116 (*) NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68876 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 19:14:42 +0000 (UTC) > For a while I was using the phrase "Free jazz? No, we prefer getting > paid", but then I heard someone describe their music as "free range > jazz" which I think is better. > Hmmm, "free range, grass fed jazz" might also be appropriate. I used to do a radio show called "Dr. Dave's Free Jazz Clinic" where I played all free improv, interspersed with classic radio and TV commercials. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content, and is believed to be clean. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 19:14:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FC643BF47; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 19:14:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=R9OLxxcdi8NMAx7KtisnsIY+GWvXLaOi1lcvAYBNfpva6SB8dgcel55f0ICzJTySqaPE3VUJXklCtPgk/KYIY+rjUC8feDwK+rX+0BdY+WFVQeEXcKvU8Er+PVIcaiAnBMzThgqqKO4TQ9h90oXKI4OglU1JMZkp+0puQh70rLA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=o9vzssqrTQTljJa0YTVmvNHVbevqmr5hIMTRX+5HIQ+8dE+HcfELwcHgrk96KajA2njcZS/jWUCVFJqtgoKiHg+aGJ3KR1ZQ5+e0bVKBnudyTYtncT9PpHYlQYntwdc1YaHL3UoD2bp/Zlae6/xUAQew16KOCAWsHQ+qa/tlZXE= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20070309110915.02758640@sympatico.ca> References: <20070309140506.ABB353BEC1@arsenic.violacea.com> <6.2.5.6.2.20070309110915.02758640@sympatico.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <602EC28C-2FB5-4BEF-84C7-19F81B2E76BD@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: audient(s) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 20:14:38 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 19:14:47 +0000 (UTC) On 9 mar 2007, at 17.09, Chris Smart wrote: > How many of you gig and do other musical things to make a living? Well, I do. Today mainly "other musical things". I give classes, teach private students, write magazine articles on music, write books on music or consult as an advisor for recording producers. Thanks to this I can afford to turn down badly paid gigs or gigs that are not interesting to do (and as an effect of that never going to be interesting for anyone to see either). Good thing I have gotten more calls lately concerning "live looping", which I think is way more fun than mocking up music in a studio environment. Ten years ago I was a "full time recording artist" in list oriented music. I quickly grew to hate that and was the first to leave the project to get out (leaving some label investors with holes in wallets - happy I never signed any "full personal responsibility" contracts. The only reason I kept doing it for some years was that I had promised my friends in the band to stay). The problem was that there were way too few activities that had to do with playing music. Normally we had to travel around talking to media and do badly paid playback shows "for promotion" at fashion design shows, in-biz show case arrangements, and likely events. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 19:36:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD3653BF25; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 19:36:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <05ff01c76282$3df2eeb0$69c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <20070308143918.46976.qmail@web34313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45F1B874.40309@pa.msu.edu> Subject: Re: inaccessability of music Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:36:31 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 19:36:35 +0000 (UTC) Some commentary, partly in jest.... Axiom 1: The number of individuals in an audience will be inversely proportionate to the experimental and avant-garde nature of the performance Comment 1: I'd love to show up for a gig where the venue is full, and proceed to clear the room (audience =0) Axiom 2: The degree of performance satisfaction and artistic gratification of an experimental/avant-garde artist is directly proportionate to the number of people who show up for his/her gigs and rave over how original, creative, and interesting his/her performance was...i.e. how much they feed his/her ego. Comment 2: I'd love to show up for a gig where the audience = 0, and find at the end of my performance (since I am so self-absorbed during my performance) that the venue is packed full of avant-garde and experimental music enthusiasts. Comment 3: We're all screwed and doomed to severe artistic neurosis....try taking valium and drinking a glass of wine before you perform. It does wonders for resolving axiomatic contradictions. :) Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "John McIntyre" To: Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:41 PM Subject: Re: inaccessability of music > Well, if we're going to play "Top this"... (-8 > > I once played a gig where no one showed up. It was at a movie theater > where myself and a musical friend were going to play a live soundtrack to > a pair of silent Western movies. There were to be two performances, one > on Saturday and one on Sunday. For Saturday's performance, no audience > members showed up. With the theater owner's kind permisson, we used > Saturday as a rehearsal; i.e., he ran the film and we played along. For > Sunday's performance, about three people showed up. > > John McIntyre > mcintyre@pa.msu.edu > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 20:35:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D48F3BF2E; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 20:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <60729.167.83.10.20.1173472533.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: <45F1B874.40309@pa.msu.edu> References: <20070308143918.46976.qmail@web34313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45F1B874.40309@pa.msu.edu> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 15:35:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: inaccessability of music From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32166 32167] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68879 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 20:35:53 +0000 (UTC) In Scotland there used to be a law on the books that if there were more members in the band than in the audience, the band didn't have to play but I beleive still got paid. I recall a story by Del Amitri where such law came into effect. ~peace~ plish > Well, if we're going to play "Top this"... (-8 > > I once played a gig where no one showed up. It was at a movie theater > where myself and a musical friend were going to play a live soundtrack > to a pair of silent Western movies. There were to be two performances, > one on Saturday and one on Sunday. For Saturday's performance, no > audience members showed up. With the theater owner's kind permisson, we > used Saturday as a rehearsal; i.e., he ran the film and we played > along. For Sunday's performance, about three people showed up. > > John McIntyre > mcintyre@pa.msu.edu > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 20:37:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C2A13BF27; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 20:37:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=AT8ABbMk7CaLq3eNIPm7Q9Oe648b6XqxJfqcZzbnECY6IAAnmO+Ic0i60X+mRnCh; h=Received:Date:Subject:Content-Type:Mime-Version:From:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 12:46:14 -0800 Subject: Re: inaccessability of music Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: Sheila Olson To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <05ff01c76282$3df2eeb0$69c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Message-Id: <3874D8EE-CE7F-11DB-92B8-000393CA38DE@earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-ELNK-Trace: 573b2ac3a2420bc9f258f48946e2642d9ef193a6bfc3dd48b23a86948a8855fcb2ee6e6d100125543ca473d225a0f487350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.3.135.148 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68880 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 20:37:50 +0000 (UTC) On Friday, March 9, 2007, at 11:36 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Some commentary, partly in jest.... > > Axiom 1: The number of individuals in an audience will be inversely > proportionate to the experimental and avant-garde nature of the > performance > > Comment 1: I'd love to show up for a gig where the venue is full, and > proceed to clear the room (audience =0) > Been there done that! Yours in sonic mayhem, joe From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 20:44:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1152C3BF2D; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 20:44:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: References: <20070309035712.C2CC73BF21@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: mp3/flac selling services Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 21:43:26 +0100 Message-ID: <014001c7628b$96716ae0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcdiK4NXmdYXYa/qQYaP58mmretoaAAWnWNA In-Reply-To: <20070309035712.C2CC73BF21@arsenic.violacea.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 20:44:02 +0000 (UTC) I like how the music download service at dgmlive.com works ... easy handling, complete albums in flac format, or, a bit cheaper, mp3 - and I wonder if there are services that do the same thing for you, to include seamlessly on your own website, and of course, cheaply. I'd love to have a feature like that on my own website for my music of course ... but also for springwatercenter.org, where they sell many many talks by my meditation teacher Toni Packer (and others) on audio CD only, so far. But their website is currently being redesigned anyway and this is a good time to integrate an mp3 download feature. (The talks have a length of roughly one hour, and 80 or 64 kbps in mono would be sufficient.) Ideas anyone? Michael www.michaelpeters.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 21:06:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91B8E3BF1B; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 21:06:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [216.113.128.239] X-Identified-User: {864:box76.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:webmail from 216.113.128.239} Message-ID: <20070309150621.dyyjrssqo0wgwks8@69.89.21.76> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:06:21 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: inaccessability of music References: <3874D8EE-CE7F-11DB-92B8-000393CA38DE@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <3874D8EE-CE7F-11DB-92B8-000393CA38DE@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 21:06:24 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Sheila Olson : > > On Friday, March 9, 2007, at 11:36 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> Comment 1: I'd love to show up for a gig where the venue is full, =20 >> and proceed to clear the room (audience =3D0) >> > > =09Been there done that! In my "other life" as a church organist, this is a weekly occurance by =20 design: I have to play postlude music while people leave the church! This does mess with one's mind -- as soon as the music starts, =20 everyone stands up, turns to the aisle, and systematically exit. There are always a few people who stay and listen, though :) I have never had the experience of playing a set and and loosing an =20 audience. If I were to play and everyone left I would ask myself =20 "what happenned?". Was the audience misled ahead of time? Were they =20 expecting different musical content/style than what I delivered? Was =20 my musical content/style mis-represented? Was there some distraction =20 (a fire across the street) that diverted their attention? Was the PA =20 system poorly balanced -- was it so loud that people couldn't take it? =20 Was it so soft that people did not realize it was a performance? =20 (Maybe they thought it was just a sound check, rehearsal, or just =20 someone messing around with equipment.) Ever since the music of Wendy Carlos and others inspired me (when I =20 was a teenager) I have considered the potential of electronic music =20 and technology to create incredibly creative and interesting music. =20 What drives me to perform is a desire to share this with others -- I =20 am way beyond any notions of fame or fortune :) I work very hard at =20 my music and don't want it to be shot down because of some kind of =20 "breakdown" with the listeners or venue. Thus, if I play to an enthusiastic audience of one, I have the =20 possibility to build upon that. If I (for whatever reason) offend a =20 large group of listeners such that they all walk out, then I have an =20 uphill battle. As such, I seek situations where my music and the expectations are in =20 general agreement. In such a situation, I have a better chance of =20 reaching an appreciative audience. While we can joke about a performance that causes everyone to leave I =20 think most of us would prefer that people stay and listen. May we all reach our listeners! -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 21:12:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8323A3BF29; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 21:12:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: BreachinThePeace@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:12:44 EST Subject: Re: inaccessability of music To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1173474764" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5359 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 21:12:46 +0000 (UTC) -------------------------------1173474764 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dude, you RULE. 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    -------------------------------1173474764-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 21:19:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EE983BF43; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 21:19:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.45.67] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070309193636.97EB73BF2B@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: audient Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 13:19:09 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Mar 2007 21:19:12.0702 (UTC) FILETIME=[958A25E0:01C76290] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 21:19:15 +0000 (UTC) I used to make a living playing,and I've played everywhere from the street to stadia. The largest audience I ever played live in front of, 175,000 was on the street. It was the San Francisco Carnival parade,in '99. We won 3 prizes inc. best music. Anyway,yes it can be a bummer for working players to have no turn out,but the best response is to treat it as a chance to work on developing the ability to play really well no matter what else is happening. I don't mean just with precisiion and energy ,I mean really making the moment vividly alive,and really engaging and moving the people who are hearing. Developing that kind of power is key to making a living in performance. Besides,if musicians can't communicate to a small audience,how can they communicate to a large one? Playing on the street is a real education-no one is there to hear you,there' lot's of competition for attention,sonic and physical space. If you can draw and hold a crowd on the street you can play anywhere. We played a gig once in theis bldg called a tennis stadium,held about 2000,the gig drew about 20.The bldg was a 50 foot tall quonset hut open on either end.The set us up in the middle.and the only sound we could make was wwaowwoawwoawwoawwaowaawoaawoa, about 2.5 second intervals This group did dance songs,but we liked playing wierd stuff so we went with it.The audience all left but we kept playing for 90 minutes till they kicked us out.Our only regret was that we didn't record. _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. 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Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 21:30:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C52993BF3F; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 21:30:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=eYbWKU0n6s7FAiE5ASJXlrPshQJA86coMa5uGM2FwXRmlcSOj2y1KTXIhlNK2Aiihlqr/9xUFsx1Dy6TK+24qS1L4jatVuF3WKFR8VnhRK46lUvk9gK1gK9atrAjXHgcRGrkknfmP5llHfyauc5PKfFpvYR5HoVCvr/yj8AGeTs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=DK4KMHr8j600Vb0iQYZkLluR73qzRcrkxFu8581J/3H0AkHy3sBWljDNobNKHJ2vM6KNi3V9c15zR80bq/pYQCPCX2/SE4PwuokyESGFJW4zRLpJAD3f/XbqdnEh16AIx46pDgsGyPyMvlzvu4IQ0FG4IE2Zv8IL4/oSpyqectg= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <014001c7628b$96716ae0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <20070309035712.C2CC73BF21@arsenic.violacea.com> <014001c7628b$96716ae0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3084CF83-1781-408B-B5D9-06AB5B2F5319@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: mp3/flac selling services Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 22:30:17 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <9Wj2pD.A.o4D.uHd8FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68886 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 21:30:22 +0000 (UTC) On 9 mar 2007, at 21.43, Michael Peters wrote: > Ideas anyone? I'm not sure what kind of ideas you mean, Michael, but I here are two sites I like: http://www.magnatune.com and http://www.jamendo.com/en/. Magnatune sells albums in the formats MP3, WAV, OGG, FLAC and AAC. Play your music on any platform: Windows, Mac and Linux. No copy protection (DRM), ever. When you burn a CD from their WAV files, you'll have the same sound fidelity as a store-bought CD. But they also sell physical CDs. Last time I bought an album (16 bit wave format) you could pay whatever you wanted over a set minimal price. I think that is nice, because if you should happen to have more money you are able to give more to an artist you like and wants to support. Magnatune have a funny branding, they admit being a record label but they also stress that they "are not evil" ;-) Jamendo only offers downloadable music albums in two formats: 200 Kbps MP3 or 300 Kbps Ogg Vorbis. The Ogg alternative is close to CD fidelity. Some offered music is really good and I think they are making a mistake in not offering also a FLAC alternative (lossless, full fidelity format). Music is given away for free and listeners can donate by PayPal directly to the artists. All music recordings are licensed according to Creative Commons. Jamendo started in France and the site, that is rather community oriented, has grown into French speaking areas and English speaking areas. I doubt they will ever meet ;-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 21:37:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E3F63BF2E; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 21:37:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <18294.167.83.10.20.1173476213.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: <3874D8EE-CE7F-11DB-92B8-000393CA38DE@earthlink.net> References: <3874D8EE-CE7F-11DB-92B8-000393CA38DE@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:36:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: inaccessability of music From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32166 32167] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 21:37:08 +0000 (UTC) The only thing better is to clear out the place and bring in the cops! plish > > On Friday, March 9, 2007, at 11:36 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > >> Some commentary, partly in jest.... >> >> Axiom 1: The number of individuals in an audience will be inversely >> proportionate to the experimental and avant-garde nature of the >> performance >> >> Comment 1: I'd love to show up for a gig where the venue is full, and >> proceed to clear the room (audience =0) >> > > Been there done that! > > > > Yours in sonic mayhem, > > > joe > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 21:45:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFE9E3BF4E; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 21:45:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=WFC1ryINK8kgz0Nwxsv8mgmG76LrQcDctusJFb9Tpix/uHTy7228ZTyd/BGH/DlniE5WPd+llgloPGqI2L3gh2sr+wpZ9kmf/1Fl4Br5+z7e2EFJjJMbXo2hTOu5Kl1FWO/1adCGXnpLzIKpwanhgKc4HnFbNrmr3ne0P3ytebA=; X-YMail-OSG: cBFWh0wVM1k5LccOBabuA5E7NZXFx5MYfXuoVMRjE9pV_ISMZdNqULKRWpXgY5aVjQ-- Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:45:02 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: looping pedal with decay? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <310791.99000.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 21:45:06 +0000 (UTC) As I've sold off most of my dedicated hardware in favor of Mobius software looping, I must say that I kept my DD-20 Gigadelay. I really like it AND it's stereo (Important if you're using stereo effects or synths and want to keep that sound) --- radio radio wrote: > thanks for the replies! I think the Gibson EDP is > out of my price range, > unless I can find a rediculous deal on one on Ebay, > but I am glad to know > that that the Boomerang does have a decay - I did > not realize that. Right > now that may look like the best option, although I > am a bit wary of the > noise that many reviewers report as my rig is > already quite noisey. Another > person recommended the Electro Harmonix 2880 or > their 16 second delay (and > mentioned that the original lexicon jamman and the > electrix repeater also > had a function to set the feedback). I'm glad to > know that I what I want > does indeed exist and for the help in narrowing it > down. Now I can return > the looper I bought that I thought had a set-able > feedback but does not > (digitech jamman). In looking at these other ones, I > can't tell which ones > accept more than one type of input (e.g., > instrument, mic, and line levels). > I would want at least the ability to use an > instrument and a mic, although I > wouldn't necessarily need to be able to do both > simultaneously, so long as I > got quick at switching. > > Does anyone else out there want to weigh in on this > issue before I spend the > money I don't have? The quest is for a looping pedal > that takes both > instrument level and line level and which you can > set the feedback for the > loops (versus having them loop infinitely). I > currently do not have any rack > equipment, is that a bridge I want to cross? Is > there anything else I should > be considering in a addition? > > The ones mentioned so far are: > > Gibson Echoplex > Boomerang plus > Electro-Harmonix 2820 > Electro-Harmonix 16 second delay > Original Lexicon Jamman > Electrix Repeater > > ????????????????????????????? > THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Eben > > On 2/27/07, mike@michaelplishka.com > wrote: > > > > If I read you correctly, the Gibson EDP does what > you want and tons more! > > I upgraded from a Boomerang plus which does have > the decay but you pick it > > ahead of time (i.e. 20 reps, 10, 1 or infinite I > beleive) > > > > my 2 cents... > > > > Plish > > > > www.myspace.com/michaelplishka > > www.myspace.com/bohdanovich > > www.michaelplishka.com > > > > > The only things that I know of that will do what > you > > > describe are delay pedals. I think the Giga > delay > > > would be your best bet, but I'd also read > somewhere > > > that this one artist(I can't remebmer his name) > uses > > > Eventide rack mount processors set up with an > > > algorhythm that was set with a 95% feedback so > that > > > his loops would decay over time. That sounds > more like > > > what you want, but that stuff is way expensive. > Other > > > than that, sounds like all you need is a digital > delay > > > unit with copious anmounts of time and to be > able to > > > set the feedback setting as needed to make the > loops > > > decay over time. > > > --- radio radio > wrote: > > > > > >> I want to buy a pedal and get into looping but > am > > >> having trouble > > >> figuring out which one will best meet my needs > (and > > >> budget). I've > > >> learned a LOT from this web site, but still > can't > > >> quite figure out > > >> everything and would really benefit from a > human > > >> (albeit > > >> computer-mediated) interaction. Thanks in > advance > > >> for taking the time > > >> to read this and respond - I hope that I will > be > > >> able to "give back" > > >> some day when I know something worth while. > Until > > >> then, I guess I > > >> should donate to this site if I get any > responses. > > >> > > >> From what I've read and thought about, it looks > like > > >> what will be the > > >> most important distinction for me is that the > loops > > >> will be able to > > >> decay. In other words, you can lay down a loop, > lay > > >> down another one > > >> on top, and then another, and so on, and > eventually > > >> the first one dies > > >> out, then the second one, and so on. I imagine > this > > >> working like a > > >> delay pedal in which you can set the decay (or > is > > >> that called > > >> feedback?). So you could "morph" over time into > new > > >> things, without > > >> being stuck with your original loops, and > without > > >> having to open a new > > >> loop and start from scratch with only one new > track > > >> each time you > > >> wanted to change it up. > > >> > > >> The three pedals I've looked into are: > > >> > > >> BOSS RC20xl, Digitech Jamman, and BOSS DD-20 > giga > > >> delay > > >> > > >> I thought the BOSS was it, but now I'm thinking > that > > >> it doesn't allow > > >> this thing that I described. I can't tell if > you can > > >> do this with the > > >> Jamman or not - does anyone know? You could do > this > > >> with the DD-20, > > >> but I can't tell if you'd be able to set a > > >> loop/delay time up with > > >> your foot or not (versus having to set it to a > > >> certain number of > > >> seconds and then hope you can keep your riff to > that > > >> length) or if > > >> there would be other difficulties that I'm not > aware > > >> of if you're > > >> using this as a looping pedal when it's built > to be > > >> a delay. > > >> > > >> Should I be considering a different pedal? I > don't > > >> really need a delay > > >> pedal - I want a loop pedal that decays. I > don't > > >> really need to be > > >> able to save my loops - I just want to be able > to > > >> set them up on the > > >> fly. I don't need to be able to save them on my > > >> computer. I don't need > > >> to be able to plug in a separate mic or > instrument > > >> in addition to the > > >> guitar, although that would be a definite bonus > for > > >> me. I don't need a > > >> long amount of time - I'm guessing 23 seconds > is > > >> plenty. I don't know > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 21:55:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 958823BF4A; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 21:55:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <069d01c76295$9a044a10$69c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <3874D8EE-CE7F-11DB-92B8-000393CA38DE@earthlink.net> <18294.167.83.10.20.1173476213.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> Subject: Re: inaccessability of music Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 14:55:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 21:55:10 +0000 (UTC) Oh, that would be superb! I can see it already..."Sir, we have recieved complaints from nearbye businesses and street walkers that you are playing music that is too experimental....you are under arrest for disturbing the common pallet"...to which I response, "Kiss my ass, Brave New World, Fahrenheit 451 Mother F*cker!" And so my dream continues.... Seriously though, I have a frriend that went to an Ornette Coleman concert in the 70's in San Francisco. He said that in the first minute of the concent, over half of the people left the room. I wish I could have been there. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:36 PM Subject: Re: inaccessability of music > > The only thing better is to clear out the place and bring in the cops! > > > plish > >> >> On Friday, March 9, 2007, at 11:36 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: >> >>> Some commentary, partly in jest.... >>> >>> Axiom 1: The number of individuals in an audience will be inversely >>> proportionate to the experimental and avant-garde nature of the >>> performance >>> >>> Comment 1: I'd love to show up for a gig where the venue is full, and >>> proceed to clear the room (audience =0) >>> >> >> Been there done that! >> >> >> >> Yours in sonic mayhem, >> >> >> joe >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 22:15:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B91AC3BF46; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 22:15:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45F1DC96.7030207@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 16:15:50 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: inaccessability of music References: <3874D8EE-CE7F-11DB-92B8-000393CA38DE@earthlink.net> <18294.167.83.10.20.1173476213.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> <069d01c76295$9a044a10$69c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <069d01c76295$9a044a10$69c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 22:15:56 +0000 (UTC) I've played to two in Arizona, one in D.C., and zero in Chicago (even the bartender went outside before our set). I've played to single-digit "crowds" so often that at this point, having three people be interested and attentive is, literally, enough for me. And even if there's only one, if that person talks to me after the gig, either buying a cd or just expressing some kind of interest, I call it fully successful. I laugh when I hear stories of how I'm supposed to be impressed that the Police played their first Stateside gig at the Rat, in Boston, to only 20 people. Twenty! Fluffers. I find low expectations in this realm to be extremely healthy from a personal standpoint. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 23:01:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D7543BF4D; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 23:01:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:00:58 -0700 Message-Id: <200703092300.l29N0wTS023046@minds-eye.org> From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: "Loop" Reply-To: kevin@minds-eye.org Subject: Tape Echo Repair X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 137.150.33.94 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <_PVDkD.A.La.rce8FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 23:01:00 +0000 (UTC) Sort of off topic perhaps, perhaps not. My beloved Multivox ME-20 tape echo has suffered some debilitating disease and now refuses to erase anything while it plays and I now get only a sort of mush of sound from the box when I turn the tape heads on. My local repair folks have all given a pass on even wanting to try to repair my beloved box and so I was wondering if anyone here had a source for tape echo repairs that they might be able to recommend. It seems like a potentially simple repair but who knows. I miss my tape echo already. Thanks in advance Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 9 23:33:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34AE33BECC; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 23:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <535477868.1173483175170.JavaMail.root@fepweb06> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 15:32:54 -0800 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Using 2 EDP's, not Stereo Cc: Mark Trewella MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 66.169.252.252 by mail.charter.net; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 18:32:54 -0500 X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: <5P4HkB.A.izB.r6e8FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 23:33:00 +0000 (UTC) Mark, I used to use 2 EDPs as a synched stereo pair for many years.=20 But now I use the 2 of them seperately with 100% rhythmic (loop lenght) ind= ependence.=20 Each one feeds its own dedicated string of stereo processors before returni= ng to my mixer 's channel inputs.=20 Some wicked/crazy asunchronous stero mayhem can result -- and often does. -- tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?p= layListId=3D6378076=20 http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ---- Mark Trewella wrote:=20 > So a few of you may have seen my post about getting rid of my LP1 and > going back to the EDP. It simply comes down to my looping style and > what I want to accomplish etc. There are many things the LP1 can do > that the EDP can not do and vise versa. Its a matter of style really. >=20 > Anyway, I am considering maybe going to a 2 EDP setup. I need some > advice from any of you guys running things this way. I have no > interest in stereo but would be doing it to mainly expand what can be > done with the EDP by adding another one. Any info from someone who > has some experience with this would be appreciated! Thanks, >=20 > Mark >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 10 00:28:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D097A3BF50; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <6.2.5.6.2.20070309193507.0288a1c8@sympatico.ca> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.5.6 Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 19:35:28 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Smart Subject: Re: inaccessability of music In-Reply-To: <45F1DC96.7030207@mhorse.com> References: <3874D8EE-CE7F-11DB-92B8-000393CA38DE@earthlink.net> <18294.167.83.10.20.1173476213.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> <069d01c76295$9a044a10$69c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45F1DC96.7030207@mhorse.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-239D4ABD Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Daryl, did you get paid for the 0 person gig, or the 3-person gig? Just curious. Chris, no, i'm not obsessed with money. At 05:15 PM 3/9/2007, you wrote: >I've played to two in Arizona, one in D.C., and zero in Chicago >(even the bartender went outside before our set). I've played to >single-digit "crowds" so often that at this point, having three >people be interested and attentive is, literally, enough for me. >And even if there's only one, if that person talks to me after the >gig, either buying a cd or just expressing some kind of interest, >I call it fully successful. > >I laugh when I hear stories of how I'm supposed to be impressed >that the Police played their first Stateside gig at the Rat, in >Boston, to only 20 people. Twenty! Fluffers. > >I find low expectations in this realm to be extremely healthy from >a personal standpoint. > >Daryl Shawn >www.swanwelder.com > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: >3/8/2007 10:58 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: 3/8/2007 10:58 AM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 10 00:50:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6212B3BF45; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:50:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45F200B4.9040501@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 18:49:56 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: inaccessability of music References: <3874D8EE-CE7F-11DB-92B8-000393CA38DE@earthlink.net> <18294.167.83.10.20.1173476213.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> <069d01c76295$9a044a10$69c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <45F1DC96.7030207@mhorse.com> <6.2.5.6.2.20070309193507.0288a1c8@sympatico.ca> In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20070309193507.0288a1c8@sympatico.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:50:01 +0000 (UTC) I've done several three-person gigs...(I should probably be ashamed of this)....I got paid at one of them, the bar was more apologetic than anything. I also got paid at the Arizona two-person show, just a few bucks but still appreciated. The zero-person show, nope! We just slunk our way out of there without talking to anyone and got back in the van for 11 hours to the next stop on tour. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > Daryl, did you get paid for the 0 person gig, or the 3-person gig? > Just curious. > > Chris, no, i'm not obsessed with money. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 10 04:03:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF2663BF5C; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 04:03:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=hFJ6WBRIgt4pA/q/q7cLT0Mdbnd+uLtp0AL0ICezfAO4RVqAU/6kXuxzcFFwcQ6/kqqQQgSU7d1wTP5DZU08Clff60ahejQsymz2K1DIp3Z6v5quqMuLi9st6CXpvuy6pXs55eL9cwnVt76aylaa5uEaiSDzWUvtGpoqHHsO4Fs=; X-YMail-OSG: aaB9jTcVM1kdUGLpZspSUoStKfxSeThGXQ1ryFlNuKvdUZ0.s02lKoa9BVRTeATF1olf8sgFUpR4EgIyy1E.I5zr4xxLMOGZSm65WV7H08LDRqrQaL6KHIztoNdyCIv0_w-- Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 20:03:36 -0800 (PST) From: rabbirabbifive Subject: Re: Inaccessability of music To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <526509.14815.qm@web60311.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68895 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 04:03:38 +0000 (UTC) >Axiom 1: The number of individuals in an audience will be inversely >proportionate to the experimental and avant-garde nature of the >performance There doesn't seem to be any relationship actually. I've seen packed houses for harsh noise gigs, and more people listening- and applauding!- from the parking lot 'cause the stage volume was so dangerously loud. (I was one of those- only one set of ears ya know). The next night for a normal indie rock band, 6 people. Go Figure. It has more to do with hype, what else is happening, the size of the performers's entourages, and luck than anything rational. >Comment 1: I'd love to show up for a gig where the venue is full, and >proceed to clear the room (audience =0) Done that. Hard to tell if you suck or they suck or both when that happens (it's happened to me twice). More fun was the time we drove out everyone except the hard-core drunks (and the bar lady passed us a note about 20 minutes in threatening to cut the power), but the drunks told after us how much they liked it and bought us beers! Go Figure. >Axiom 2: The degree of performance satisfaction and artistic >gratification >of an experimental/avant-garde artist is directly proportionate to the >number of people who show up for his/her gigs and rave over how >original, >creative, and interesting his/her performance was...i.e. how much they >feed >his/her ego. I can live without the ass-kissing, personally. Just buy the merch. ;-) -rabbi ____________________________________________________________________________________ We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 10 06:04:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 837433BF5D; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 06:04:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00e901c762d9$fb91cc50$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: inaccessability of music Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 22:04:36 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 06:04:41 +0000 (UTC) When I was touring with the wonderful altered tuning acoustic guitar wizard from Britain, Martin Simpson, he told of a time that he played an outdoor festival somewhere in England, I believe, on a day that was really rainy. There was one kind of older guy in the audience and Martin played his whole set for him alone and then said, "do you have any requests" The old guy said, "Yes, would you please hurry up and finish so I can put all these chairs away" He was the janitor of the venue. LOL From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 10 06:16:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1D9373BF58; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 06:16:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <011b01c762db$a3d566a0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: inaccessability of music Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 22:16:28 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 06:16:34 +0000 (UTC) Oh yeah, and this one comes to mind..................an actual looping gig experience (please forgive if I have posted this here before, I post to a lot of groups and can't remember if I did or not) My brother and I got a live looping gig doing ethnic fusion with a lot of syncrhonized looping down at the Monterey Bay Aquarium. The gig was for the top 50 life insurance salespeople in the United States. We got to the gig, sussed out the room and begin to set up our rather elaborate setup. Once set up (it takes over an hour for this complex set up with multiple instruments) a woman came in the room and said, "Oh no, no, no, you are in the wrong spot.........I need you to move to the other side of the room." I argued politely with her but she was adamant. We hurriedly moved our equipment to the other side of the room. Then her boss came in, "I'm sorry, but you are set up in the wrong place. You need to be across the room there........(where we had just set up)." By this point I was hopping mad and stressed and I protested vociferously, but he was our boss and we were compelled to move back to where we had been. We never worked for them again, so I imagine that my protest wasn't taken well. We were going nuts because we very close to the people coming and they wanted us playing background music as they walked in. With perspiration pouring down our necks, the busload of insurance salespeople arrived and we finally began to play. All 50 of them walked in; walked right by us in a cluster and climbed the stairs to go to dinner and disappeared. it didn't take more than a minute before they were all gone, tops!!!!!! the gig was over!!!!!! luckily, it was a very lucrative gig, but boy did I feel like a glorified servant that day. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 10 07:14:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F1B23BF66; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 07:14:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: Playing to nobody (was inaccessability of music) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 23:14:03 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Acdi26ijluE+o6TFT3mxGHqr6VQnpAABu4Yg In-Reply-To: <011b01c762db$a3d566a0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Message-Id: <20070310071417.KMAF2807.fed1rmmtao106.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 07:14:19 +0000 (UTC) -----Original Message----- From: RICK WALKER [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] Rick wrote (out of sequence) >the busload of insurance salespeople arrived and we finally began to play. We were going nuts because we very close to the people coming and they wanted us playing background music as they walked in. All 50 of them walked in; walked right by us in a cluster and climbed the stairs to go to dinner and disappeared. it didn't take more than a minute before they were all gone, tops!!!!!! the gig was over!!!!!! --->I do this kind of gig all the time--it's called "meet and greet" >My brother and I got a live looping gig doing ethnic fusion with a lot of syncrhonized looping down at the Monterey Bay Aquarium. The gig was for the top 50 life insurance salespeople in the United States. We got to the gig, sussed out the room and begin to set up our rather elaborate setup. Once set up (it takes over an hour for this complex set up with multiple instruments) a woman came in the room and said, "Oh no, no, no, you are in the wrong spot.........I need you to move to the other side of the room." I argued politely with her but she was adamant. We hurriedly moved our equipment to the other side of the room. Then her boss came in, "I'm sorry, but you are set up in the wrong place. You need to be across the room there........(where we had just set up)." By this point I was hopping mad and stressed and I protested vociferously, but he was our boss and we were compelled to move back to where we had been. We never worked for them again, so I imagine that my protest wasn't taken well. --->This sort of thing happens with corporate gigs--they don't really have much consideration for the musicians >luckily, it was a very lucrative gig, but boy did I feel like a glorified servant that day. -->Ah, that's because you were, Mr. Rick. Mr. Rick did not mention the time he came all the way to San Diego to play a gig with me for less than half a dozen people. It was me, him and Luis Angelo--my friend Harvey Starr came (I was using a Ztar) and a bass player named Are Jay who was on the LD list at the time also showed, but it was mostly unattended--and we played anyway! Gary (who has made a living playing to nobody) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 10 08:41:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AF5183BED3; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 08:41:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.45.195] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070310002810.8558A3BF4E@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: perverse proportion Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 00:41:48 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Mar 2007 08:41:52.0151 (UTC) FILETIME=[F3461270:01C762EF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 08:41:54 +0000 (UTC) Played anuclear freeze benefit in Corvallis Ore,in 1980 ,sponsored by the Folklore Society ( I've always thought folklore society seemed oxymoronic,or at least a hexemoronic) The bill was acoustic folk music,protest singers.We were last ,and the only electric ,much less electronic performers. We played a version of the Clash's Ivan meets GI Joe .We were quite certain it was the first performance of anythibg related to Punk music in that town,which is hilarious,cause the first punkers that finally showed up did their best to hate me for being a longhair in the most popular hippie tribal band around. Anyway we did a small war for the instrumental ,with synths and effects,and feedback .I got great helicoptor and tracer sounds out of bass thru requency analyzer-delay-electric misstress. The joint was packed ,sro and It appeared to me tha the leading edge of our sound envelope carried the whole crowd out the door like a tidal wave.From 100 people to 3 in 10 seconds. _________________________________________________________________ Find what you need at prices you’ll love. Compare products and save at MSN® Shopping. http://shopping.msn.com/default/shp/?ptnrid=37,ptnrdata=24102&tcode=T001MSN20A0701 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 10 09:12:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 506933BF60; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 09:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 04:12:03 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to The AM/FM Show To: beyond_em Yahoogroups List , ASMID Yahoogroups List , Loopers Delight Mailing List , ElectronicMusic Yahoogroups List , spacemusic Yahoogroups List , tangerinedream Yahhogroups List , Electronic Music 2000 Yahoogroups List , Jeff Kowal , Daniel Pipitone , Ambient Way Yahoogroups List , Philly Ambient Yahoogroups Mailing List Message-id: <45F27663.2090701@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 09:12:40 +0000 (UTC) THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, March 10 at 6:00 am EST / GMT-5, just under two hours from now. I will continue the special on E-dition Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. Tune in to WMUH Allentown at 91.7 FM, broadcasting from the campus of Muhlenberg College. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 10 09:21:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 758E23BF66; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 09:21:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=or2OYc0W9jEP1dkZHnb6MRmyhM6iRuw3rQkgn64/n1swmvdluEulEdUuo5NX46YMk64bAzBZKtzpZhQy3qFNqAvfInYIrOtdTRzlmfsEsxaF51uA77nCWZ3NZ4nCOCvOhmVfcCiV0ZiV7BXXMn4dhZ/QvQ/lHLjFIacoK+yLUrw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=GrjQIXxCEitdWasLLni8yAI0rn4TomEmiT5YdA/eG653UiOMAhzAcESKvRD6o8ncugelPRm7xHWzyFJ3OMWRd6claCdiiZkXESKaZRgkg4k4+xyD2YWnFftlp7l127w6gN0LDvFnVQ34EMvXRLGaahzKGNW8KO3+ajGkdjgs/MM= In-Reply-To: <00e901c762d9$fb91cc50$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <00e901c762d9$fb91cc50$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: inaccessability of music Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 10:21:18 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68901 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 09:21:23 +0000 (UTC) On 10 mar 2007, at 07.04, RICK WALKER wrote: > The old guy said, "Yes, would you please hurry up and finish so > I can put all these chairs away" > He was the janitor of the venue. I once did a similar gig with a rock band, but with TWO people in the audience. After the concert one went to the DJ booth and the other took a stand behind the bar -----> ;-( Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 10 09:23:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 381B33BF5D; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 09:23:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=z4cGjRiQAVP+xYs7lKAOaZWGLVZLzhJAUxQQO9fQYs+Nw5W5nwoKQE3KvKg36Rmp/vrhszTtV3Q7+L0GDtxE54AGj4IeYpXlq5Amc1zQioZ1XFPVAKC5jnU8Pb5ka3S6VJ3e8ShWuYpkZmcjip4Ys0iIi8WbnWUGoZarCaR1ro8= ; Message-ID: <20070310092342.9149.qmail@web86107.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: NgZCGLoVM1kiVKGc.2xReSXTcF6G9BV2wMtNCnoYJk.sgYc9CvNiXn8yE6imkIT684NZH8bbpG8jRFKcZUofEPEwnsfOt7QSfmurZIoDD5qXT5TC9bkUpDgf6qc32A-- Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 09:23:42 +0000 (GMT) From: MATTHEW STEVENS Subject: London Looping festival To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-706195797-1173518622=:9132" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 09:23:44 +0000 (UTC) --0-706195797-1173518622=:9132 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Loopers Delight My name is Matt Stevens I'm putting together the London looping festival at the moment. If you are interested or require some info go to www.myspace.com/londonloopingfestival or www.myspace.com/mattstevensguitar My website is www.mattstevensguitar.com - I do looping stuff acoustic with loads of layered harmony - I'm from a jazz/rock/grindcore/hardcore background. Anyway just wanted to say how much respect I have for loopers delight and that how many people's music on here had inspired me. Best regards Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com --0-706195797-1173518622=:9132 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    Hello Loopers Delight
     
    My name is Matt Stevens I'm putting together the London looping festival at the moment. If you are interested or require some info go to www.myspace.com/londonloopingfestival or www.myspace.com/mattstevensguitar
     
    My website is www.mattstevensguitar.com - I do looping stuff acoustic with loads of layered harmony - I'm from a jazz/rock/grindcore/hardcore background. 
     
    Anyway just wanted to say how much respect I have for loopers delight and that how many people's music on here had inspired me.
     
    Best regards
     
     
    Matt Stevens
    --0-706195797-1173518622=:9132-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 10 09:48:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2DE3C3BF67; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 09:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 09:48:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: eventide looper Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <45F27EF5.2181.40718F@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20070310002810.746B33BF58@arsenic.violacea.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68903 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 09:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Has anyone tried one of these? http://www.eventidestompboxes.com/media/stompboxes_cutsheet%20_timefac tor.pdf it mentions 12 second looper and stereo/mono effects (wonder which one the looper uses?) There's a vid here, but it only whets the appetite. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC6u56xU6dk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 10 10:06:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E13D73BF6A; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 10:06:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <20070310092342.9149.qmail@web86107.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <20070310092342.9149.qmail@web86107.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <275915F8-4032-4601-8928-CDB4DA64187F@bernhardwagner.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bernhard Wagner LD Subject: Re: London Looping festival Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 11:06:51 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68904 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 10:06:57 +0000 (UTC) Hi Matt I'm glad you are taking the initiative! It was also great to see that there's a festival building up in Seattle. I encourage everyone who ever played at a loop festival to put one up themselves! Bernhard http://bernhardwagner.net On 10.03.2007, at 10:23, MATTHEW STEVENS wrote: > My name is Matt Stevens I'm putting together the London looping > festival at the moment. If you are interested or require some info > go to www.myspace.com/londonloopingfestival or www.myspace.com/ > mattstevensguitar From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 10 12:29:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 153E63BF6A; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:29:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Nza7yA0tqhUlqdlSmVP1mBYg/RxGu/iqw/xNCGmKhZDM1bbGnmUOUkOEJfB5XIRGT3b7OPCG9HzRHUOcfocAnAgCvvBx+P45UdN8/dWt4vemoX/MyDL/VRrkcgxmUfAkcNMMZtBoR9PE8pqBdKpt/OC1HT47EV7tkLMovLAKrwU=; X-YMail-OSG: mqbRjIUVM1m0dqYhzBHJKtH2bxP9ua4SvJinGsqPKcn0IZ5p4vWEoUJQKGsiPiY0tNY5VMM3dw5LTxDLupq.cNEj7yHpY17S7MiFg6_hyoK2BzCu_h3Ecf6ifTLEUg-- Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:29:00 +0000 (GMT) From: MATTHEW STEVENS Subject: Re: London Looping festival To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <275915F8-4032-4601-8928-CDB4DA64187F@bernhardwagner.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1885161555-1173529740=:90841" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <115319.90841.qm@web86106.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68905 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:29:03 +0000 (UTC) --0-1885161555-1173529740=:90841 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cheers mate!!! Bernhard Wagner LD wrote: Hi Matt I'm glad you are taking the initiative! It was also great to see that there's a festival building up in Seattle. I encourage everyone who ever played at a loop festival to put one up themselves! Bernhard http://bernhardwagner.net On 10.03.2007, at 10:23, MATTHEW STEVENS wrote: > My name is Matt Stevens I'm putting together the London looping > festival at the moment. If you are interested or require some info > go to www.myspace.com/londonloopingfestival or www.myspace.com/ > mattstevensguitar --0-1885161555-1173529740=:90841 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cheers mate!!!

    Bernhard Wagner LD <loopdelightml-NDI3MDE=-@bernhardwagner.net> wrote:
    Hi Matt

    I'm glad you are taking the initiative! It was also great to see that
    there's a festival building up in Seattle.

    I encourage everyone who ever played at a loop festival to put one up
    themselves!

    Bernhard
    http://bernhardwagner.net

    On 10.03.2007, at 10:23, MATTHEW STEVENS wrote:

    > My name is Matt Stevens I'm putting together the London looping
    > festival at the moment. If you are interested or require some info
    > go to www.myspace.com/londonloopingfestival or www.myspace.com/
    > mattstevensguitar


    --0-1885161555-1173529740=:90841-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 10 12:35:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51D5D3BEC5; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:35:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <006e01c76310$9fddd390$2601a8c0@SALON> From: "Ingo Ito" To: Subject: Fw: mp3/flac selling services Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:35:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0069_01C76318.ED60AF90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:35:52 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01C76318.ED60AF90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just integrated this special download-shop in my own website: = www.easybe.com and I have also seen it on Adrian Belew=B4s website: = http://adrianbelew.net/1-2-3-music-store/process.php?pname=3DShopfrontPro= cess-Start Works perfectly for me and I=B4m nearly finished to put the first = downloads online. And it=B4s rather cheap and with nice supply people. Cheers Ingo www.itofarm.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Per Boysen=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:30 PM Subject: Re: mp3/flac selling services On 9 mar 2007, at 21.43, Michael Peters wrote: > Ideas anyone? I'm not sure what kind of ideas you mean, Michael, but I here are two =20 sites I like: http://www.magnatune.com and http://www.jamendo.com/en/. Magnatune sells albums in the formats MP3, WAV, OGG, FLAC and AAC. =20 Play your music on any platform: Windows, Mac and Linux. No copy =20 protection (DRM), ever. When you burn a CD from their WAV files, =20 you'll have the same sound fidelity as a store-bought CD. But they =20 also sell physical CDs. Last time I bought an album (16 bit wave =20 format) you could pay whatever you wanted over a set minimal price. I =20 think that is nice, because if you should happen to have more money =20 you are able to give more to an artist you like and wants to support. =20 Magnatune have a funny branding, they admit being a record label but =20 they also stress that they "are not evil" ;-) Jamendo only offers downloadable music albums in two formats: 200 =20 Kbps MP3 or 300 Kbps Ogg Vorbis. The Ogg alternative is close to CD =20 fidelity. Some offered music is really good and I think they are =20 making a mistake in not offering also a FLAC alternative (lossless, =20 full fidelity format). Music is given away for free and listeners =20 can donate by PayPal directly to the artists. All music recordings =20 are licensed according to Creative Commons. Jamendo started in France =20 and the site, that is rather community oriented, has grown into =20 French speaking areas and English speaking areas. I doubt they will =20 ever meet ;-)) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01C76318.ED60AF90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    I just integrated this special = download-shop in my=20 own website: www.easybe.com and I = have also=20 seen it on Adrian Belew=B4s website: http://adrianbelew.net/1-2-3-music-store/process.php?= pname=3DShopfrontProcess-Start
     
    Works perfectly for me and I=B4m = nearly finished=20 to put the first downloads online. And it=B4s rather cheap and with nice = supply=20 people.
     
    Cheers
    Ingo
     
    www.itofarm.com
     
     
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Per = Boysen=20
    Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 10:30 PM
    Subject: Re: mp3/flac selling services

    On 9 mar 2007, at 21.43, Michael Peters wrote:
    > = Ideas=20 anyone?


    I'm not sure what kind of ideas you mean, Michael, = but I here=20 are two 
    sites I like: http://www.magnatune.com and http://www.jamendo.com/en/.
    Magnatune=20 sells albums in the formats MP3, WAV, OGG, FLAC and AAC. 
    Play = your=20 music on any platform: Windows, Mac and Linux. No copy  =
    protection=20 (DRM), ever. When you burn a CD from their WAV files, 
    you'll = have the=20 same sound fidelity as a store-bought CD. But they 
    also sell = physical=20 CDs. Last time I bought an album (16 bit wave 
    format) you = could pay=20 whatever you wanted over a set minimal price. I 
    think that is = nice,=20 because if you should happen to have more money 
    you are able = to give=20 more to an artist you like and wants to support. 
    Magnatune = have a=20 funny branding, they admit being a record label but 
    they also = stress=20 that they "are not evil" ;-)

    Jamendo only offers downloadable = music=20 albums in two formats: 200 
    Kbps MP3 or 300 Kbps Ogg Vorbis. = The Ogg=20 alternative is close to CD 
    fidelity. Some offered music is = really good=20 and I think they are 
    making a mistake in not offering also a = FLAC=20 alternative (lossless, 
    full fidelity format).  Music is = given=20 away for free and listeners 
    can donate by PayPal directly to = the=20 artists. All music recordings 
    are licensed according to = Creative=20 Commons. Jamendo started in France 
    and the site, that is = rather=20 community oriented, has grown into 
    French speaking areas and = English=20 speaking areas. I doubt they will 
    ever meet = ;-))

    Greetings from=20 Sweden

    Per Boysen
    www.boysen.se=20 (Swedish)
    www.looproom.com=20 (international)
    http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest = music=20 release)
    ------=_NextPart_000_0069_01C76318.ED60AF90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 10 13:35:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08C023BF55; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:35:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <3084CF83-1781-408B-B5D9-06AB5B2F5319@gmail.com> Subject: RE: mp3-flac selling services Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:35:15 +0100 Message-ID: <002901c76318$f01d85a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <3084CF83-1781-408B-B5D9-06AB5B2F5319@gmail.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Acdi8c5JPMKhMJfsTDSvUg+m49rqSgAJtQeQ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:35:53 +0000 (UTC) > I'm not sure what kind of ideas you mean, Michael, but I here are two sites I like: http://www.magnatune.com and http://www.jamendo.com/en/. these are mp3 download sites, basically not unlike iTunes or mp3.com .... I'm looking for download/payment services that can be included seamlessly into one's own website, and that would work similar to how things work on the dgmlive.com site. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 10 15:46:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CD573BF6A; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 15:46:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=l82U6X6LykacQD56JyrHOnRZRY8nxCm5irez0IbIxepo71GX3Ag2qRV2/xFybANaQ//SE/V3jt/jKxhVfKJrQnm+qW4E+IAaGNXPTf8A5tcBjx14/VhS/3BhCUdaZtSLtQRZoZvQVMEPABg8ZxzPmMsnDzKNc9Ge6s1watrei9c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=QzjSpt953nq3osPPzPC1QVi1+/X36bh1ARwGjR7d+r9knaBBrOSnBPFoXWszl6stxqV6eX9LMU3VZdDJXF+7+l0gwog9NfZ1nIzUlt/b85exHmYYsjM2KEFpAKqmGAhehVLFDZaUBUD4+5hx/53TZIueClg0K2Y9O7zlnV2PkOc= Message-ID: <492979830703100746j95f6cf8m52a90c930a027ce7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 10:46:14 -0500 From: "John Schur" Reply-To: johnschur@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: EDP Plus crashing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 15:46:20 +0000 (UTC) Hi All New to the list as well as the Echoplex. Just got the EDP Plus two days ago and in that time, the unit has completely frozen-up once, and has spontaneously rebooted at least a half dozen times. The reboots have occurred when I have pressed buttons on the EFC7 foot controller. Is this just the nature of the beast or do I have a defective unit? Regards John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 10 16:28:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A12843BF3F; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:28:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:28:07 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: eventide Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <45F2DC97.12452.1AE3397@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <20070310154620.083553BF6C@arsenic.violacea.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:28:16 +0000 (UTC) I found an eventide demo here, though we learn nothing of the looping features. http://www.gearwire.com/eventide-wnamm.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 10 17:46:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A756A3BF62; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 17:46:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <45F27EF5.2181.40718F@nick.12testing.net> References: <45F27EF5.2181.40718F@nick.12testing.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9ED025DD-9AC3-4BE6-801F-70188FCE2F83@midway.uchicago.edu> Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Shirkey Subject: Re: eventide looper Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 11:47:22 -0600 To: nick@12testing.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 17:46:03 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 10, 2007, at 3:48 AM, nick@12testing.net wrote: > Has anyone tried one of these? They haven't hit the street yet. I believe they are shipping soon, however. Street price is $399, I'm told. For more info, you may want to join the Eventide Helps yahoo group. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 10 17:51:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5DE53BF59; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 17:51:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45F2FCCC.8030903@pa.msu.edu> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:45:32 -0600 From: John McIntyre User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: inaccessability of music References: <3874D8EE-CE7F-11DB-92B8-000393CA38DE@earthlink.net> <18294.167.83.10.20.1173476213.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: <18294.167.83.10.20.1173476213.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus: None found by Clam AV Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 17:51:57 +0000 (UTC) Well, it wasn't our music that drove all the people out, it was the heat. We were playing in the packed basement of a frat house during the hottest day of the year. When we took our first break, the crowd moved outside to the parking lot and somebody turned on the hose. That did it. No one came back inside for the second set but the band. So we played anyway. One guy wandered in during our set because the keg was in the corner. He looked at us playing to no one, shook his head and wandered back outside. After we finished a full set to an empty room, one couple came in just as we'd stopped and said they wanted to dance. So we got back up and played for them. It was pretty wild out on that parking lot. I went to check it out during a break and got a bucket of water dumped on me from an upstairs window. John McIntyre mcintyre@pa.msu.edu From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 10 18:18:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A14DE3BF64; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:18:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=0jmdlPPztoonT0k9chvJY4yZilH4ldT98QV+YBqSIBP0pEArRNnj5P6g08IgmEE8k3uHImThp3YO0k8i2J3VD2RggZmSfcQmMPzLDv9wJVwu+zba2+gfBmq3oYQmBgT5qP1kzoLHHDfJtvYXGd67iKrmTvOb7yompUjeUxknJ6o=; X-YMail-OSG: LnFFwJwVM1nFpjaEJVblctfg2qvCdeZzeEAUnjvos0bNdXAe3CxWAu.Lzv3zcMHxkSuv3qHGYLi1Jgrm7sSHsWY7ZcT5E_ys49.1yPZ4z4UbL81xC0TX8GzFG_83S5xwq_bb0mksrd57fPYXu01aSLXHGw-- Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 10:18:54 -0800 (PST) From: barry smith Subject: Re: Inaccessability of music To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <526509.14815.qm@web60311.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <431156.15468.qm@web30710.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:18:56 +0000 (UTC) Hey.....don't forget.......Alice Cooper, when first starting out, got signed by Frank Zappa and his label.....BECAUSE they cleared the room...! People came around and he still sells out world wide!! --- rabbirabbifive wrote: > >Axiom 1: The number of individuals in an audience > will be inversely > >proportionate to the experimental and avant-garde > nature of the > >performance > > There doesn't seem to be any relationship actually. > I've seen packed > houses for harsh noise gigs, and more people > listening- and > applauding!- from the parking lot 'cause the stage > volume was so > dangerously loud. (I was one of those- only one set > of ears ya know). > The next night for a normal indie rock band, 6 > people. Go Figure. It > has more to do with hype, what else is happening, > the size of the > performers's entourages, and luck than anything > rational. > > >Comment 1: I'd love to show up for a gig where the > venue is full, and > >proceed to clear the room (audience =0) > > Done that. Hard to tell if you suck or they suck or > both when that > happens (it's happened to me twice). More fun was > the time we drove > out everyone except the hard-core drunks (and the > bar lady passed us a > note about 20 minutes in threatening to cut the > power), but the drunks > told after us how much they liked it and bought us > beers! Go Figure. > > >Axiom 2: The degree of performance satisfaction and > artistic > >gratification > >of an experimental/avant-garde artist is directly > proportionate to the > > >number of people who show up for his/her gigs and > rave over how > >original, > >creative, and interesting his/her performance > was...i.e. how much they > > >feed > >his/her ego. > > I can live without the ass-kissing, personally. > Just buy the merch. > ;-) > > -rabbi > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love > (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures > list. > http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 10 18:25:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80CC33BF5B; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Dmitry A.Khvatov To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: loopers-delight recommended reading Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: mPOP Web-Mail 2.19 X-Originating-IP: 195.64.216.230 via proxy [217.119.85.34] Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 21:25:05 +0300 Reply-To: Dmitry A.Khvatov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Hi there! Does anybody know, where these books, mentioned in "recommended reading", can be found for free download? "Brian Eno: His Music and the Vertical Color of Sound" - By Eric Tamm. "Experimental Music (Cage and Beyond)" "Silence - Lectures and Writings by John Cage" - By John Cage "John Cage (ex)plain(ed)" - by Richard Kostelanetz. "Writings About Music" - By Steve Reich "Stockhausen: Conversations with the Composer" "Free Play : Improvisation in Life and Art" - by Stephen Nachmanovitch. "A Guide to Electronic Music" - by Paul Griffiths "Tape Music Composition" - by David Keane "Minimalism: Origins" - by Edward Strickland From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 10 20:14:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF92D3BF39; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Xf8FGFlT4ipNPPWo9Jc6UcTmD5CCy3K8dfM9lGT17hUS6oZCOM+lyv6iu3N7U7cp8Mg8IYz7OVDVI0LOQ+3eIZixCYigFdQq5NMsd+g8bED6vvBvNdSXX425Woa6mVV4q77qbUYivU6e/BPmUwLn+ghS8za/eJIEFMrw/6b2VfA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=aVxHbc+DzLX9uehosGdeA/UPIS22HWPSoOj9P93nDCv6v8Sq4Wxg64yMM6S60CDACMmvziW4T8VKfeLfJNTSVjI3Va4/eXfgPbXTGTyWLSJU2d+faWMs0lmJmmbevmtVxwVMD5iEKArUICwmn2rh5UepM7SWOALpL08rHirW8i4= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 15:14:36 -0500 From: "Mark Trewella" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Replacing a LED on the EDP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Anyone have any experience with this. I may be obtaining an EDP that is said to have a Record LED that only lights up orange and red but not green. I am thinking that the LED probably just needs to be replaced. Does anyone know where I can get a replacement LED and would putting the new one in be fairly easy? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 10 21:26:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 37AED3BF16; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 21:26:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <011c01c7635a$bbc16a50$6401a8c0@LAPTOP> From: "David O'Heare" To: "David O'Heare" Subject: Tonight's entertainment... Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 16:26:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0119_01C76330.D1566A70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-magma-MailScanner-Information: Magma Mailscanner Service X-magma-MailScanner: Clean X-Spam-Status: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 21:26:25 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0119_01C76330.D1566A70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, it's late notice. If I'd told you earlier, you might have come, and = do we want that? Tonight, March 10, 2007, will be the inaugural performance of Streets of = Hours, a free-improvisational duo consisting of yours truly (as Merril = Street, apparently) and my good friend Hours Durve, making noises and = possibly even playing music. We're performing at the Avant Garde Bar and Gift Shop at 135 1/2 = Besserer Street in Ottawa. We're supporting My Tiny Circus, Ottawa's = premier lounge-core band. Show time is 9:00 PM, we're on 'til 9:30 or they pull the plug on us. = Our intent is to go up and see just how irritating we can be. Isn't that = the point of free-improvisation, after all? Best comment so far about our act: "So what would be the difference then between your act and two people = too lazy to rehearse?" ------=_NextPart_000_0119_01C76330.D1566A70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Yes, it's late = notice. If I'd=20 told you earlier, you might have come, and do we want that?
     
    Tonight, March 10, = 2007, will be=20 the inaugural performance of Streets of Hours, a = free-improvisational duo=20 consisting of yours truly (as Merril Street, apparently) and my good = friend=20 Hours Durve, making noises and possibly even playing music.


    We're performing at the Avant Garde Bar and Gift Shop at = 135 1/2=20 Besserer Street in Ottawa. We're supporting My Tiny=20 Circus, Ottawa's premier lounge-core = band.


    Show time is 9:00 PM, we're on 'til 9:30 or they = pull the=20 plug on us. Our intent is to go up and see just how irritating we can = be. Isn't=20 that the point of free-improvisation, after all?


    Best comment so far about our act:


    "So what would be the difference then = between=20 your act and two people too lazy to=20 rehearse?"
     ------=_NextPart_000_0119_01C76330.D1566A70-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 11 09:06:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F3A23BEF3; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:06:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:06:44 +0100 From: "Torstein H.Rem" Subject: Re: Re[2]: loopers-delight recommended reading To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <000c01c763bc$996011c0$0200000a@remwaves> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=koi8-r; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <000f01c76381$b2ce6430$0200000a@remwaves> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:06:25 +0000 (UTC) Late night writing makes up for the error here. >> On the site you'll also find >> "Robert Fripp: From Crimson King to guitar craft" >> http://www.erictamm.com/tammfripp.html Title is of course "Robert Fripp: From King Crimson to guitar craft" "In The Court of the Crimson King" still sticking to my mind ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dmitry A. Khvatov" To: "Torstein H.Rem" Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 5:16 AM Subject: Re[2]: loopers-delight recommended reading > Thanks! > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Torstein H.Rem" > To: "Dmitry A.Khvatov" > Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 03:05:10 +0100 > Subject: Re: loopers-delight recommended reading > >> >> Here's one >> >> "Brian Eno: His Music and the Vertical Color of Sound" - By Eric Tamm. >> http://www.erictamm.com/tammeno.html >> >> >> On the site you'll also find >> "Robert Fripp: From Crimson King to guitar craft" >> http://www.erictamm.com/tammfripp.html >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dmitry A.Khvatov" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 7:25 PM >> Subject: loopers-delight recommended reading >> >> >> > Hi there! >> > >> > Does anybody know, where these books, mentioned in "recommended >> > reading", >> > can be found for free download? >> > >> > "Brian Eno: His Music and the Vertical Color of Sound" - By Eric Tamm. >> > "Experimental Music (Cage and Beyond)" >> > "Silence - Lectures and Writings by John Cage" - By John Cage >> > "John Cage (ex)plain(ed)" - by Richard Kostelanetz. >> > "Writings About Music" - By Steve Reich >> > "Stockhausen: Conversations with the Composer" >> > "Free Play : Improvisation in Life and Art" - by Stephen Nachmanovitch. >> > "A Guide to Electronic Music" - by Paul Griffiths >> > "Tape Music Composition" - by David Keane >> > "Minimalism: Origins" - by Edward Strickland >> > >> > >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 11 09:30:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD7E43BEFA; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:30:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 05:30:44 -0400 From: Domenick Swentosky Subject: Volume Pedals To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <45F3CC44.5050101@greytime.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000722-4, 03/09/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68917 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:30:52 +0000 (UTC) Hello all: I have a problem that would seem to have a simple solution, but I just can't quite find the answer in the archives, though there is much discussion about volume and expression pedals. I formerly used the Boomerang, which has now been replaced on my board with a Boss RC-50. With both setups, I have run the output of the looper into a volume pedal, sometimes into a DI box, and then into the PA. I run my guitar signal straight into a different channel on the PA because I like to have that volume pedal control on the loop while maintaining the guitar level. Fair enough, right? But the problem I've always had: I cannot find a volume pedal that actually operates smoothly throughout the range of the pedal. Meaning, there is always a quick dropoff from the top of the sweep to just below it. I'd simply like to find a pedal that decreases the volume by, say, 10 percent if I physically back off the pedal by 10 percent. Instead, i get this dramatic droppoff somewhere near the top of the sweep, and I'm constantly struggling to get the level exactly where I want it. It would be really, really great to be able to back off the pedal by 10 percent and know for certain that when I play the loop that I created, it will be playing at 90 percent volume. Seems like such a simple thing, and since I don't hear many of you complaining about this, I'm figuring that you must have it pretty well worked out for yourselves. As I understand it, with my setup, I should be using a passive volume pedal. I'm using a Boss FV-50L with the RC-50 right now, and it is marginally better than the Morley that I used to use with the Boomerang. I've tried both versions of the Ernie Ball Vp Junior's, and both swell rates on the passive one. I found them to be the worst actually, but I love the way they're built. Any advice you might have would be much appreciated. I'm pretty stuck on this one. Enjoy the day. Domenick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 11 10:57:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BB083BEFB; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:57:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Volume Pedals Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:57:44 +0100 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000d01c763cc$1b347790$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Thread-Index: Acdjv/aRgnKCfzDRSPWED955Ymr1/QACsgEg In-Reply-To: <45F3CC44.5050101@greytime.com> X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD10+29g0ZGb27dWiA= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:57:35 +0000 (UTC) The question here in part is "ten percent of which physical quantity"? The human ear works in a logarithmic way, which means something like this: Let's say you have a sound pressure of 1 Pa (just for example). You percieve that as a subjective loudness x. If you increase the pressure by a factor of two (now you get 2 Pa), you percieve the loudness to be increased by a certain amount, which we might call y, so you now "hear" x+y. If you now increase the pressure by a factor of two again (so you now have 4 Pa, which is four times your initial amount), you "hear" x+2y. Which means: to get these "linear volume dependencies", you need a logarithmic pot in your volume pedal, because your hearing percieves sound pressure (and also frequency btw) in a logarithmic fashion and so will hear a logarithmic pot as linear. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 11 11:51:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 474FC3BEF8; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:51:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAIqJ80XUSnInk2dsb2JhbACPPAIBAQcODR2aIw Message-ID: <45F3ED24.6080605@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:51:00 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Volume Pedals References: <45F3CC44.5050101@greytime.com> In-Reply-To: <45F3CC44.5050101@greytime.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 11:51:02 +0000 (UTC) > > But the problem I've always had: I cannot find a volume pedal that > actually operates smoothly throughout the range of the pedal. Meaning, > there is always a quick dropoff from the top of the sweep to just below > it. I'd simply like to find a pedal that decreases the volume by, say, > 10 percent if I physically back off the pedal by 10 percent. Instead, i > get this dramatic droppoff somewhere near the top of the sweep, and I'm > constantly struggling to get the level exactly where I want it. It > would be really, really great to be able to back off the pedal by 10 > percent and know for certain that when I play the loop that I created, > it will be playing at 90 percent volume. Seems like such a simple > thing, and since I don't hear many of you complaining about this, I'm > figuring that you must have it pretty well worked out for yourselves. > > As I understand it, with my setup, I should be using a passive volume > pedal. I'm using a Boss FV-50L with the RC-50 right now, and it is Oh, the FV-50L should be right for that application. L for low impedance, ... intending to avoid the problem you are experiencing which is generally caused by using a high impedance (for guitar direct) pedal. If you only need to accurately set the loop vol, and don't care about fading out completely then you could set the minimum vol control on the FV-50L to give you more control. The way I solve the problem is to set up the relative volume of the loop to the live sound very carefully, then there isn't a problem.... but I'm pretty good at controlling the dynamics of my playing having done a lot of analog recording while watching the level meter. Also I have midi control of the EDP loop volume, which I use occasionally. Probably you aren't going to find a commercial product with the response you want :-( Getting a replacement pot to fit a pedal could also be problematic ( well, for newer pedals , the pot is custom made so the whole range covers less of an angle.) You might find an old pedal with a simple mechanism (e.g.ColorSound) which would take any pot, but then the mechanism doesn't give the full range of the pot( well, that could still work for you, just need to add a little gain somewhere to make up for that lost in the pedal). Experiment with the FV-50L( or other) with a soldering iron 1) wire both pots together in parallel to further reduce impedance. 2) Try soldering a resistor between the wiper and "hot" tags of the pot ( may be better if you start with a pedal with high impedance for this idea). Try 10k, 5k, 2k, 1k, or a preset. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 11 14:14:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E7FF3BEF5; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:14:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [69.84.126.202] X-Originating-Email: [aaronleese@hotmail.com] X-Sender: aaronleese@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <45F11C4F.1010400@tiscali.co.uk> From: "aaron leese" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loop sync semantics Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 09:14:05 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2007 14:14:05.0374 (UTC) FILETIME=[86D045E0:01C763E7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:14:09 +0000 (UTC) Thanks man ... thats what I was looking for. Although ... I must say I don't really like the words the EDP uses for it ... they just don't really seem intuitive .... but then, maybe there are no intuitive words for it. >From: andy butler >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: loop sync semantics >Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 08:35:27 +0000 > > > >aaron leese wrote: > >> >>1 - unsynced ..... > >> >>2 - full syncronization ..... > >> >>3 - partial syncronization ... latching ??? ...... Here the loops are also >>syncronized, but the pedal will start recording immediately once pressed >>.... >> > >In EDP speak. > >"Quantise" is when things are fully synchronised. >"Rounding" is when an action starts immediately but lasts for a whole >number of cycles. > >(in EDP, when you multiply a loop it keeps track of the original loop time >which becomes a "cycle" within the loop) > >EDP is full of phrases like "SUS" and "reverse sniplets" > >andy butler > _________________________________________________________________ Play Flexicon: the crossword game that feeds your brain. PLAY now for FREE.  http://zone.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmtagline From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 11 15:05:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 739DA3BEF5; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:05:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=tCK75S0SCasKOis8ChWdDBnS9cWhTt077NzwZmTmJWsbYDYjCEqXZAfk6NgKplJp7CA4vr5j2Y1pIBXeNCMY0a5KEdLTCu/7nVF65qnsrGSEiheo8B6DGzTjLDZ9OmBa1DQ4rFwYVvJbtqhIWwGc4a4UW0Q1Ag6wvpxvGCq0/iw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=F8PUI4VmgXVO24wIo6ka7oqknxHnkkCW8mso/xmmAHMoIp1QqX+J8V5cqV6Yuh+Dx45E6u4IZHlCqs8hlMQtJLpz3Ohu8aRZtZyhsauX0oIKp1T2avPT2+GI3usWynnoVM3HxMwa2Y6hQFQ7E6jWgA1Lr+XI9HyZOKtnwVuYqhw= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:05:29 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Volume Pedals In-Reply-To: <45F3CC44.5050101@greytime.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <45F3CC44.5050101@greytime.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:05:32 +0000 (UTC) Try the Visual Volume volume pedal. On 3/11/07, Domenick Swentosky wrote: > But the problem I've always had: I cannot find a volume pedal that > actually operates smoothly throughout the range of the pedal. Meaning, > there is always a quick dropoff from the top of the sweep to just below > it. I'd simply like to find a pedal that decreases the volume by, say, > 10 percent if I physically back off the pedal by 10 percent. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 11 17:06:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55D783BF01; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=N2Lqh0y6CftEtuywqHu/+2ov8CCo8h7UhFS8FAzyYWgRbCOcFyAE1ko/2lst9sSphKbQv24GpyTKmZPeVnhbAYtipK3PbvkvAhcx2ytKMIpU8lRzy+wVygr14pz6HrY9eCKuuv04V6hZ9YQsj9jD+5u1ZQuLdXJIaCgpT8SvzkY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Hr+DLI9L/gHel83Yq4YOfFPmFAXbDBAKjr7Ydya0k0k2RtZYrWTazAyfsDUUC0xF2wo3Y2+IanywqdAO2dgdEbqaf+koEqWTiWv19cgw+JlKXJmXn9DV8OMKQpC8dc7f57CUX84KJq+wm/6q/s5CfrPs6c2JCW5TNfC+pUeMq74= Message-ID: <588ce11d0703111006wb306aadn1b5309eb8fed4489@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 10:06:04 -0700 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: USB Volume Pedal? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Just to change the subject slightly, is there a USB volume pedal? Something like one pedal off a FCB1010 without the switches that sends MIDI CC over USB? It would sure be handy. . . -- Art Simon simart@null.net http://art.simon.tripod.com http://www.myspace.com/artsimon Soulseek id: simart From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 11 17:13:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77DF83BF04; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:13:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45F438BF.4030303@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:13:35 -0500 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Volume Pedals References: <45F3CC44.5050101@greytime.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:13:48 +0000 (UTC) I can't speak for the logarhymthicity (?) of its travel, but I'm excited about this tiny new volume/multi-exp pedal and will be getting one as soon as they start production. I'll give a review once I get one in hand. http://www.effector13.com/main.html#MEVP Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 11 17:24:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AB043BF06; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:24:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:24:27 -0400 From: Domenick Swentosky Subject: Re: Volume Pedals In-reply-to: <45F3ED24.6080605@tiscali.co.uk> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <45F43B4B.7030503@greytime.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000722-4, 03/09/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean References: <45F3CC44.5050101@greytime.com> <45F3ED24.6080605@tiscali.co.uk> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 17:24:54 +0000 (UTC) andy butler wrote: > If you only need to accurately set the loop vol, and don't care about > fading out completely then you could set the minimum vol control on > the FV-50L to give you more control. > > Yeah, unfortunately, doing a complete fadeout is a big part of the way I loop. Thanks Andy. I've saved your advice about some of the different wirings that I could try and may dig into it at a later date. The last time I used a soldering iron was in high school. Wow, I can't believe that nobody is manufacturing a pedal that addresses the problem that I have. It sounds like some of you know what I'm talking about so it's not that uncommon. The Visual Sound pedal looks like a promising option, and I may check into it. *QUESTION:* what about using the RC-50's expression pedal control for volume instead of using the pedal after the master out like I do. I know that some of you do this with your EDP's. Does that help to level out the consistency of the sweep? Has anyone used a Boss FV-50L to control the RC-50's expression pedal jack? Thanks. Enjoy the day. Domenick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 11 18:50:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B6393BF08; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:50:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_b8217c28-e47c-4202-97e9-ea41727af8a1_" X-Originating-IP: [80.189.238.194] From: Whitehorse_ dreams To: Subject: Hi - new here and looking for advice Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:50:53 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2007 18:50:53.0761 (UTC) FILETIME=[322F0310:01C7640E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 18:50:54 +0000 (UTC) --_b8217c28-e47c-4202-97e9-ea41727af8a1_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi everyone I'm new to the list and I'm looking for some advice. =20 I'm looking to buy a loop pedal and having never used any equipment live (p= erforming acapella without mics with a band I was in or just playing -me an= d the guitar) I'm a bit lost as the the equipment I might need to perform o= n stage. I apologise in advance for what may seem ridiculous questions! =20 Basically I want to be able to loop vocals and acoustic guitar, incorporate= rhythm and keyboards into the loops and go from there. =20 I'm probably going to go for the RC-20 (finances don't allow to go for the = next model up just yet) but what would you suggest my set-up should be? Wha= t kind of amp would I need to buy? Bearing in mind there's only me and I do= n't have a car! I know I want to be able to practice at home (with good hea= dphones so I don't drive the neighbours crazy) on the same equipment. What = could I use to create good drum tracks live? I'd be really interested to kn= ow if any of you use a set-up like this. =20 I have done an music production and audio engineering course so understand = the terminology but the equipment side of things has always phased me. Very= little of our course covered live work it was mostly learning the desk and= Pro Tools training. My home terrain is working in Pro Tools and with vario= us other music computing software but I don't want to simply create backing= tracks - I want to create music live. Naturally I love using loops and cre= ating layers of vocal harmonies - hence feeling dissatisfied performing alo= ne with just the guitar. My influences range from folk, electronica to worl= d - I'm working on a set inspired and influenced by Tori Amos, David Fonsec= a, Camille, Jose Gonazalez, Portuguese Fado music, flamenco and trance bu= t now I need to go and and buy the equipment that I need to make the music = in my head possible on stage.=20 =20 I guess I'm trying to be a one woman band but from watching the likes of KT= Tunstall and other artists working with loops I can see that is entirely p= ossible. It's very inspiring! =20 I have been reading many of your posts and can see a lot of people here rea= lly know there stuff. Absolutely any advice would be welcome - from loop pe= dals to amps to keyboards. If you play a small venue what equipment do you = take? I love my guitar but he wants a bit of company :-) =20 Lastly, whatever this set-up is - could I then plug it into Pro Tools (if a= ny of you guys use it) so that I can record my efforts (or would you sugges= t simply mic-ing up the amp?) =20 Gosh, I'm just a bundle of questions. =20 Thanks for reading this far I look forward to hearing from any of you. =20 Leah http://www.myspace.com/leahwhitehorse =20 =20 =20 _________________________________________________________________ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx= --_b8217c28-e47c-4202-97e9-ea41727af8a1_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Hi everyone
    I'm new to the list and I'm looking  for some advice.
     
    I'm looking to buy a loop pedal and having never used any equipment live&nb= sp;(performing acapella without mics with a band I was in or just playing -= me and the guitar) I'm a bit lost as the the equipment I might need to perf= orm on stage. I apologise in advance for what may seem ridiculous questions= !
     
    Basically I want to be able to loop vocals and acoustic guitar, incorporate= rhythm and keyboards into the loops and go from there.
     
    I'm probably going to go for the RC-20 (finances don't allow to go for the = next model up just yet) but what would you suggest my set-up should be? Wha= t kind of amp would I need to buy? Bearing in mind there's only me and I do= n't have a car! I know I want to be able to practice at home (with good hea= dphones so I don't drive the neighbours crazy) on the same equipment. What = could I use to create good drum tracks live? I'd be really interested to kn= ow if any of you use a set-up like this.
     
    I have done an music production and audio engineering course so u= nderstand the terminology but the equipment side of things has always phase= d me. Very little of our course covered live work it was mostly learning th= e desk and Pro Tools training. My home terrain is working in Pro Tools and = with various other music computing software but I don't want to simply crea= te backing tracks - I want to create music live. Naturally I love using loo= ps and creating layers of vocal harmonies - hence feeling dissatisfied perf= orming alone with just the guitar. My influences range from folk, electroni= ca to world - I'm working on a set inspired and influenced by Tori Amos, Da= vid Fonseca, Camille,  Jose Gonazalez, Portuguese Fado music, flamenco= and  trance but now I need to go and and buy the equipment that I nee= d to make the music in my head possible on stage.
     
    I guess I'm trying to be a one woman band but from watching the likes of KT= Tunstall and other artists working with loops I can see that is entirely p= ossible. It's very inspiring!
     
    I have been reading many of your posts and can see a lot of people here rea= lly know there stuff. Absolutely any advice would be welcome - from loop pe= dals to amps to keyboards. If you play a small venue what equipment do you = take? I love my guitar but he wants a bit of company :-)
     
    Lastly, whatever this set-up is - could I then plug it into Pro Tools (if a= ny of you guys use it) so that I can record my efforts (or would you sugges= t simply mic-ing up the amp?)
     
    Gosh, I'm just a bundle of questions.
     
    Thanks for reading this far
    I look forward to hearing from any of you.
     
    Leah
    http://www.myspace.com/le= ahwhitehorse
     
     
     

    Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list w= ith Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! Try it! = --_b8217c28-e47c-4202-97e9-ea41727af8a1_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 11 19:14:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 301C23BF0A; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:14:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=h1f595/KAGTlt0l5kL/2lMLZRg3HYshfZXweO1GE5G7RB3yEDROzU/w9NJGe/946I4hF9YBvqtJoUB0EQPPUUOEjivDdj8Y6YZ1h2bsv724HNqwp6sWQ5bIg+eTltU9MaeiQefvG7n71D3i1EuoLO0Ni4cBh19X7x1mGRzuE3rY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=BDK6Q11mxe8MaNiFxFjjhApBOJ50TvLWTm0Ix7v7Rvqu1DHSNsIpjo4tz/+zQ1pZIJ9txA1N3GvFH776S8P3QVcp43EnAwIKYAyKV6MT8pCHNVo8OWSSDIraYwufddsMLO1IjDgBRRJIyM5nWWQ+Ev7CFmyocnHp8X6VnmDtEg0= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:14:15 -0400 From: "radio radio" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hi - new here and looking for advice In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:14:20 +0000 (UTC) I'm also new, so take what I have to suggest with a grain of salt, but I want to be able to "give back" since so many people here have already helped me out as a new person also with questions that must be dumb. From the sounds of it, considering your budget, consider the digitech jamman - there's a blemished one on musiciansfriend.com right now for only $229 - cheaper than the rc-20, and it has a usb output that you should be able to put directly into protools. I don't think you can find cheaper for what you want (and if you do want it - get it now, since blemished versions sell out quickly). It usually costs $300, although you never know with "blemished" if there's something wrong with it. But you do get 45 days to try it before you return it. Alternately, the rc-2 is even cheaper, at $179, but you'd have to mic an amp. Someone else from this listserve suggesting getting an inexpensive little mixer (behringer makes some for as low as $45) to plug in several different instruments to plug into the looper, which sounds like what you want to do. As for an amp, if you want to plug in all those instruments and voice, I'm guessing an inexpensive PA or something like that, rather than running everything through a guitar amp. Again, Behringer makes cheap ones. Good luck! Eben On 3/11/07, Whitehorse_ dreams wrote: > > > Hi everyone > I'm new to the list and I'm looking for some advice. > > I'm looking to buy a loop pedal and having never used any equipment > live (performing acapella without mics with a band I was in or just playing > -me and the guitar) I'm a bit lost as the the equipment I might need to > perform on stage. I apologise in advance for what may seem ridiculous > questions! > > Basically I want to be able to loop vocals and acoustic guitar, incorporate > rhythm and keyboards into the loops and go from there. > > I'm probably going to go for the RC-20 (finances don't allow to go for the > next model up just yet) but what would you suggest my set-up should be? What > kind of amp would I need to buy? Bearing in mind there's only me and I don't > have a car! I know I want to be able to practice at home (with good > headphones so I don't drive the neighbours crazy) on the same equipment. > What could I use to create good drum tracks live? I'd be really interested > to know if any of you use a set-up like this. > > I have done an music production and audio engineering course so understand > the terminology but the equipment side of things has always phased me. Very > little of our course covered live work it was mostly learning the desk and > Pro Tools training. My home terrain is working in Pro Tools and with various > other music computing software but I don't want to simply create backing > tracks - I want to create music live. Naturally I love using loops and > creating layers of vocal harmonies - hence feeling dissatisfied performing > alone with just the guitar. My influences range from folk, electronica to > world - I'm working on a set inspired and influenced by Tori Amos, David > Fonseca, Camille, Jose Gonazalez, Portuguese Fado music, flamenco and > trance but now I need to go and and buy the equipment that I need to make > the music in my head possible on stage. > > I guess I'm trying to be a one woman band but from watching the likes of KT > Tunstall and other artists working with loops I can see that is entirely > possible. It's very inspiring! > > I have been reading many of your posts and can see a lot of people here > really know there stuff. Absolutely any advice would be welcome - from loop > pedals to amps to keyboards. If you play a small venue what equipment do you > take? I love my guitar but he wants a bit of company :-) > > Lastly, whatever this set-up is - could I then plug it into Pro Tools (if > any of you guys use it) so that I can record my efforts (or would you > suggest simply mic-ing up the amp?) > > Gosh, I'm just a bundle of questions. > > Thanks for reading this far > I look forward to hearing from any of you. > > Leah > http://www.myspace.com/leahwhitehorse > > > > > ________________________________ > Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live > Spaces. It's easy! Try it! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 11 19:29:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 347693BEF4; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:29:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [207.90.215.35] X-Identified-User: {864:box76.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:webmail from 207.90.215.35} Message-ID: <20070311142900.c6y8nbqfms8cowwc@69.89.21.76> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:29:00 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hi - new here and looking for advice References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:29:02 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Whitehorse_ dreams : > I know I want to be able to practice at home (with good headphones =20 > so I don't drive the neighbours crazy) on the same equipment. What =20 > could I use to create good drum tracks live? I'd be really =20 > interested to know if any of you use a set-up like this. Hi! From the situation you describe, you may want to consider purchasing =20 a small mixer -- for example, the Mackie's have excellent headphone =20 amplifiers and that would cover your need to work with a headphone as =20 well as provide you flexibility for hooking mics, loop pedals, and =20 other instruments together. Such a mixer would give you the flexibility to route mono or stereo =20 line level signals to a PA system. If the venue already has a PA, =20 then you would be covered. For your own PA, you might want to consider powered monitors or a Bose =20 PAS (kind of pricey, though). The point being that your mixer can =20 serve as the "hub" for your setup and afford you the flexibility to =20 route to your or someone else's PA. Will be interested to read others' suggestions. There are many ways =20 to put together a system -- the main thing is to put together whatever =20 serves your needs. The only suggestion I would give is to get quality equipment -- it may =20 cost a little more up front however you will fight fewer technical =20 battles and have more time to make music. Fortunately, there is a lot =20 of great equipment out there that is modestly priced. All the best to you, -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 11 20:07:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92A553BEFE; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:07:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c55ed34e-1439-4d35-b379-4d8f70a43337_" X-Originating-IP: [80.189.238.194] From: Whitehorse_ dreams To: Subject: RE: Hi - new here and looking for advice Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:07:20 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2007 20:07:20.0380 (UTC) FILETIME=[E00587C0:01C76418] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:07:23 +0000 (UTC) --_c55ed34e-1439-4d35-b379-4d8f70a43337_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Kevin Many thanks for your reply. Lots to think about there. I checked out Bose as I hadn't come across them = before. Pricey yes but looks great! Even if I can't afford certain things r= ight now I'm making a list of 'things to work up to'. I'll take a look at t= he Mackie's as well.=20 I agree with your comments about getting quality equipment. I know that som= etimes it comes down to personal preferences and needs but it's always good= to hear other people's experiences with certain makes and models. Whilst m= y purse may not be running over in gold coins, I'd rather take longer to bu= y better equipment than jump in and buy any ol' rubbish. =20 Looks like I'm going to be doing some serious hours in the day job for a wh= ile ;-) =20 Leah > Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:29:00 -0500> From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.co= m> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: Re: Hi - new here and = looking for advice> > Quoting Whitehorse_ dreams :> > > I know I want to be able to practice at home (with good headpho= nes > > so I don't drive the neighbours crazy) on the same equipment. What = > > could I use to create good drum tracks live? I'd be really > > interest= ed to know if any of you use a set-up like this.> > Hi!> > From the situati= on you describe, you may want to consider purchasing > a small mixer -- for= example, the Mackie's have excellent headphone > amplifiers and that would= cover your need to work with a headphone as > well as provide you flexibil= ity for hooking mics, loop pedals, and > other instruments together.> > Suc= h a mixer would give you the flexibility to route mono or stereo > line lev= el signals to a PA system. If the venue already has a PA, > then you would = be covered.> > For your own PA, you might want to consider powered monitors= or a Bose > PAS (kind of pricey, though). The point being that your mixer = can > serve as the "hub" for your setup and afford you the flexibility to >= route to your or someone else's PA.> > Will be interested to read others' = suggestions. There are many ways > to put together a system -- the main thi= ng is to put together whatever > serves your needs.> > The only suggestion = I would give is to get quality equipment -- it may > cost a little more up = front however you will fight fewer technical > battles and have more time t= o make music. Fortunately, there is a lot > of great equipment out there th= at is modestly priced.> > All the best to you,> > -- Kevin>=20 _________________________________________________________________ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger=A0 http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=3Den-us&sourc= e=3Dwlmailtagline= --_c55ed34e-1439-4d35-b379-4d8f70a43337_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Kevin
    Many thanks for your reply.
    Lots to think about there. I checked out Bose as I hadn't come across them = before. Pricey yes but looks great! Even if I can't afford certain things r= ight now I'm making a list of 'things to work up to'. I'll take a look at t= he Mackie's as well.
    I agree with your comments about getting quality equipment. I know that som= etimes it comes down to personal preferences and needs but it's always good= to hear other people's experiences with certain makes and models. Whilst m= y purse may not be running over in gold coins, I'd rather take longer to bu= y better equipment than jump in and buy any ol' rubbish.
     
    Looks like I'm going to be doing some serious hours in the day job for a wh= ile ;-)
     
    Leah





    > Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 14:29:00 -0500
    > From: kkissinger@kevinki= ssinger.com
    > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    > Subject= : Re: Hi - new here and looking for advice
    >
    > Quoting Whiteho= rse_ dreams <whitehorse_dreams@hotmail.com>:
    >
    > > I = know I want to be able to practice at home (with good headphones
    > &= gt; so I don't drive the neighbours crazy) on the same equipment. What
    = > > could I use to create good drum tracks live? I'd be really
    &g= t; > interested to know if any of you use a set-up like this.
    > > Hi!
    >
    > From the situation you describe, you may want t= o consider purchasing
    > a small mixer -- for example, the Mackie's h= ave excellent headphone
    > amplifiers and that would cover your need = to work with a headphone as
    > well as provide you flexibility for ho= oking mics, loop pedals, and
    > other instruments together.
    > <= BR>> Such a mixer would give you the flexibility to route mono or stereo=
    > line level signals to a PA system. If the venue already has a PA,=
    > then you would be covered.
    >
    > For your own PA, you = might want to consider powered monitors or a Bose
    > PAS (kind of pri= cey, though). The point being that your mixer can
    > serve as the "hu= b" for your setup and afford you the flexibility to
    > route to your = or someone else's PA.
    >
    > Will be interested to read others' s= uggestions. There are many ways
    > to put together a system -- the ma= in thing is to put together whatever
    > serves your needs.
    > > The only suggestion I would give is to get quality equipment -- it m= ay
    > cost a little more up front however you will fight fewer techni= cal
    > battles and have more time to make music. Fortunately, there i= s a lot
    > of great equipment out there that is modestly priced.
    &= gt;
    > All the best to you,
    >
    > -- Kevin
    >

    Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger=A0 Get it now! = --_c55ed34e-1439-4d35-b379-4d8f70a43337_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 11 20:18:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40E953BF04; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:18:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_8fe1a20c-ca91-4e45-bb8e-3e37e239904b_" X-Originating-IP: [80.189.238.194] From: Whitehorse_ dreams To: Subject: RE: Hi - new here and looking for advice Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:18:38 +0000 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Mar 2007 20:18:38.0217 (UTC) FILETIME=[740B3F90:01C7641A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:18:40 +0000 (UTC) --_8fe1a20c-ca91-4e45-bb8e-3e37e239904b_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Eban Thanks also for your reply. I really appreciate it. I've seen jamman recommended a few times on other sites. I will go and chec= k it out some more. As I replied to Kevin, a mixer is a really good idea (and one I should have= thought of!). I think a mate of mine has a Behringer mixer - I'll have to = go round and have a listen to it in action and look at the different models= .I've been weighing up pro's and cons of buying second hand or new and will= probably go for new. I know a couple of people who work in music shops so = a bit of a discount is possible :-) =20 Leah > Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:14:15 -0400> From: radiotelevision@gmail.com> T= o: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: Re: Hi - new here and look= ing for advice> > I'm also new, so take what I have to suggest with a grain= of salt, but> I want to be able to "give back" since so many people here h= ave> already helped me out as a new person also with questions that must be= > dumb. From the sounds of it, considering your budget, consider the> digit= ech jamman - there's a blemished one on musiciansfriend.com right> now for = only $229 - cheaper than the rc-20, and it has a usb output> that you shoul= d be able to put directly into protools. I don't think> you can find cheape= r for what you want (and if you do want it - get it> now, since blemished v= ersions sell out quickly). It usually costs> $300, although you never know = with "blemished" if there's something> wrong with it. But you do get 45 day= s to try it before you return it.> Alternately, the rc-2 is even cheaper, a= t $179, but you'd have to mic> an amp.> > Someone else from this listserve = suggesting getting an inexpensive> little mixer (behringer makes some for a= s low as $45) to plug in> several different instruments to plug into the lo= oper, which sounds> like what you want to do.> > As for an amp, if you want= to plug in all those instruments and voice,> I'm guessing an inexpensive P= A or something like that, rather than> running everything through a guitar = amp. Again, Behringer makes cheap> ones.> > Good luck!> > Eben> > On 3/11/0= 7, Whitehorse_ dreams wrote:> >> >> > Hi ev= eryone> > I'm new to the list and I'm looking for some advice.> >> > I'm lo= oking to buy a loop pedal and having never used any equipment> > live (perf= orming acapella without mics with a band I was in or just playing> > -me an= d the guitar) I'm a bit lost as the the equipment I might need to> > perfor= m on stage. I apologise in advance for what may seem ridiculous> > question= s!> >> > Basically I want to be able to loop vocals and acoustic guitar, in= corporate> > rhythm and keyboards into the loops and go from there.> >> > I= 'm probably going to go for the RC-20 (finances don't allow to go for the> = > next model up just yet) but what would you suggest my set-up should be? W= hat> > kind of amp would I need to buy? Bearing in mind there's only me and= I don't> > have a car! I know I want to be able to practice at home (with = good> > headphones so I don't drive the neighbours crazy) on the same equip= ment.> > What could I use to create good drum tracks live? I'd be really in= terested> > to know if any of you use a set-up like this.> >> > I have done= an music production and audio engineering course so understand> > the term= inology but the equipment side of things has always phased me. Very> > litt= le of our course covered live work it was mostly learning the desk and> > P= ro Tools training. My home terrain is working in Pro Tools and with various= > > other music computing software but I don't want to simply create backin= g> > tracks - I want to create music live. Naturally I love using loops and= > > creating layers of vocal harmonies - hence feeling dissatisfied perform= ing> > alone with just the guitar. My influences range from folk, electroni= ca to> > world - I'm working on a set inspired and influenced by Tori Amos,= David> > Fonseca, Camille, Jose Gonazalez, Portuguese Fado music, flamenco= and> > trance but now I need to go and and buy the equipment that I need t= o make> > the music in my head possible on stage.> >> > I guess I'm trying = to be a one woman band but from watching the likes of KT> > Tunstall and ot= her artists working with loops I can see that is entirely> > possible. It's= very inspiring!> >> > I have been reading many of your posts and can see a= lot of people here> > really know there stuff. Absolutely any advice would= be welcome - from loop> > pedals to amps to keyboards. If you play a small= venue what equipment do you> > take? I love my guitar but he wants a bit o= f company :-)> >> > Lastly, whatever this set-up is - could I then plug it = into Pro Tools (if> > any of you guys use it) so that I can record my effor= ts (or would you> > suggest simply mic-ing up the amp?)> >> > Gosh, I'm jus= t a bundle of questions.> >> > Thanks for reading this far> > I look forwar= d to hearing from any of you.> >> > Leah> > http://www.myspace.com/leahwhit= ehorse> >> >> >> >> > ________________________________> > Invite your mail = contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live> > Spaces. It's easy! = Try it!>=20 _________________________________________________________________ Explore the seven wonders of the world http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=3D7+wonders+world&mkt=3Den-US&form=3DQ= BRE= --_8fe1a20c-ca91-4e45-bb8e-3e37e239904b_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Eban
    Thanks also for your reply. I really appreciate it.
    I've seen jamman recommended a few times on other sites. I will go and chec= k it out some more.
    As I replied to Kevin, a mixer is a really good idea (and one I should have= thought of!). I think a mate of mine has a Behringer mixer - I'll have to = go round and have a listen to it in action and look at the different models= .

    I've been weighing up pro's and cons of buying second hand or new = and will probably go for new. I know a couple of people who work in music s= hops so a bit of a discount is possible :-)
     
    Leah



    > Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 15:14:15 -0400
    > From: radiotelevision@gm= ail.com
    > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    > Subject: Re= : Hi - new here and looking for advice
    >
    > I'm also new, so ta= ke what I have to suggest with a grain of salt, but
    > I want to be ab= le to "give back" since so many people here have
    > already helped me = out as a new person also with questions that must be
    > dumb. From the= sounds of it, considering your budget, consider the
    > digitech jamma= n - there's a blemished one on musiciansfriend.com right
    > now for on= ly $229 - cheaper than the rc-20, and it has a usb output
    > that you = should be able to put directly into protools. I don't think
    > you can= find cheaper for what you want (and if you do want it - get it
    > now= , since blemished versions sell out quickly). It usually costs
    > $300= , although you never know with "blemished" if there's something
    > wro= ng with it. But you do get 45 days to try it before you return it.
    > = Alternately, the rc-2 is even cheaper, at $179, but you'd have to mic
    &g= t; an amp.
    >
    > Someone else from this listserve suggesting get= ting an inexpensive
    > little mixer (behringer makes some for as low a= s $45) to plug in
    > several different instruments to plug into the lo= oper, which sounds
    > like what you want to do.
    >
    > As fo= r an amp, if you want to plug in all those instruments and voice,
    > I= 'm guessing an inexpensive PA or something like that, rather than
    > r= unning everything through a guitar amp. Again, Behringer makes cheap
    >= ; ones.
    >
    > Good luck!
    >
    > Eben
    >
    > = On 3/11/07, Whitehorse_ dreams <whitehorse_dreams@hotmail.com> wrote:=
    > >
    > >
    > > Hi everyone
    > > I'm new to= the list and I'm looking for some advice.
    > >
    > > I'm lo= oking to buy a loop pedal and having never used any equipment
    > > = live (performing acapella without mics with a band I was in or just playing=
    > > -me and the guitar) I'm a bit lost as the the equipment I mig= ht need to
    > > perform on stage. I apologise in advance for what m= ay seem ridiculous
    > > questions!
    > >
    > > Basica= lly I want to be able to loop vocals and acoustic guitar, incorporate
    &g= t; > rhythm and keyboards into the loops and go from there.
    > >=
    > > I'm probably going to go for the RC-20 (finances don't allow = to go for the
    > > next model up just yet) but what would you sugge= st my set-up should be? What
    > > kind of amp would I need to buy? = Bearing in mind there's only me and I don't
    > > have a car! I know= I want to be able to practice at home (with good
    > > headphones s= o I don't drive the neighbours crazy) on the same equipment.
    > > W= hat could I use to create good drum tracks live? I'd be really interested> > to know if any of you use a set-up like this.
    > >
    &= gt; > I have done an music production and audio engineering course so un= derstand
    > > the terminology but the equipment side of things has = always phased me. Very
    > > little of our course covered live work = it was mostly learning the desk and
    > > Pro Tools training. My hom= e terrain is working in Pro Tools and with various
    > > other music= computing software but I don't want to simply create backing
    > > = tracks - I want to create music live. Naturally I love using loops and
    &= gt; > creating layers of vocal harmonies - hence feeling dissatisfied pe= rforming
    > > alone with just the guitar. My influences range from = folk, electronica to
    > > world - I'm working on a set inspired and= influenced by Tori Amos, David
    > > Fonseca, Camille, Jose Gonazal= ez, Portuguese Fado music, flamenco and
    > > trance but now I need = to go and and buy the equipment that I need to make
    > > the music = in my head possible on stage.
    > >
    > > I guess I'm trying = to be a one woman band but from watching the likes of KT
    > > Tunst= all and other artists working with loops I can see that is entirely
    >= > possible. It's very inspiring!
    > >
    > > I have been = reading many of your posts and can see a lot of people here
    > > re= ally know there stuff. Absolutely any advice would be welcome - from loop> > pedals to amps to keyboards. If you play a small venue what equ= ipment do you
    > > take? I love my guitar but he wants a bit of com= pany :-)
    > >
    > > Lastly, whatever this set-up is - could = I then plug it into Pro Tools (if
    > > any of you guys use it) so t= hat I can record my efforts (or would you
    > > suggest simply mic-i= ng up the amp?)
    > >
    > > Gosh, I'm just a bundle of questi= ons.
    > >
    > > Thanks for reading this far
    > > I l= ook forward to hearing from any of you.
    > >
    > > Leah
    &= gt; > http://www.myspace.com/leahwhitehorse
    > >
    > >> >
    > >
    > > ________________________________
    &g= t; > Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Li= ve
    > > Spaces. It's easy! Try it!
    >


    Expl= ore the seven wonders of the world Learn mo= re! = --_8fe1a20c-ca91-4e45-bb8e-3e37e239904b_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 11 20:45:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2C0E3BF01; Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:45:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "GORDIUS info" To: Subject: RE: MIDI CC Resolution & RE: Volume Pedals Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:45:38 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Acdf9gL7Rv7MBacaQSiKYJPFspKdBgEJYAjQ In-Reply-To: <1173188177.45ed6e51ae417@webmail.m3ch.net> Message-Id: <20070311204520.9CC13D4041@hoboe1bl1.telenet-ops.be> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 20:45:24 +0000 (UTC) In response to both these threads about MIDI CC resolution and non-linear expression pedal behaviour, I decided to incorporate following functionality in the GORDIUS product line ( not available yet !) : The GORDIUS Little Giant is an FCB1010 extension module and/or stand-alone floorboard with a few inputs for standard expression pedals. In the current design, these can be used to perform a standard MIDI 7-bit continuous control. I intend to keep the "incoming" resolution of the expression pedal down to the standard 7 bit (128 distinct values), because testing confirms what has been mentioned before: it's hard to use the sweep of an expression pedal for a finer adjustment than these 7 bits. What's far more important is the resolution and the form of the curve, actually being used for controlling volume (or any other parameter for that matter). So I will look into the possibility to download to the floorboard (over USB or MIDI) a 14-bit lookup table, which converts the expression pedal sweep into any customizable non-linear curve, which can be sent using MIDI message MSB/LSB pairs with a combined resolution of 14 bit. Ideally, together with this functionality, I would need to provide a PC tool which allows you to draw any curve and download it to the floorboard for immediate use - so you could easily experiment with your expression pedals and finetune the curve to your personal taste. Again : not available yet, but the different threads on this forum make me believe this might be interesting functionality. Regards, Xavier http://www.gordius.be -----Original Message----- From: Mech [mailto:mech@m3ch.net] Sent: dinsdag 6 maart 2007 14:36 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: MIDI CC Resolution (was: Considering building an ultimate looper...) Quoting cpr@musetrap.com: > > You are correct.. I had forgotten about that, and did not continue > forth in my reading once I thought I had my answer.. :) Hey, thanks for the verification that I'd read the spec correctly. But I'd say, given the current state of controllers out there, that the original solution you hit upon is the most compatible, since most pedals can be set to manipulate Pitch Wheel. I'd wonder if there are any pedals other than the ones that we've mentioned that will even merely transmit proper MSB/LSB Mod Wheel, rather than dumbing it down to MSB only. > So, I think, instead of the a new ultimate looper, we need an > ultimate midi pedal.. which is not a new topic either.. :) I heard you there! The sad thing is that I've actually gone through and done some design work for a MIDI widget that could fairly easily incorporate something like this. Problem is, while I can put stuff together on paper, I know crap about programming embedded systems or, for that matter, doing hardware manufacture in general. I've played at fabricating some boutique stompbox 'ideas', but that's a fur piece from what would be required for the circuit of a data project like the one I've in mind. Ah well.... :P --m. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/717 - Release Date: 10/03/2007 14:25 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/717 - Release Date: 10/03/2007 14:25 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 12 03:20:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 383C13BEF8; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 03:20:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C76455.6D946C73" Subject: RE: loop sync semantics Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:18:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C1C3B1E@keel.sailpoint.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: loop sync semantics Thread-Index: AcdhyM38bWrwI0IaQf2aBhW7GUiMMwCjEj2l References: From: "Jeff Larson" To: , Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68931 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 03:20:49 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C76455.6D946C73 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Your "Full sync" mode is similar to what Mobius would call "Track Sync" where the start and end of the recording are "quantized" to a location in the master loop. The quantization point may either be the beginning of the master loop, a cycle within the loop, or a subcycle within the = loop. It is usually accurate to think of a cycle as a measure and a subcycle as a beat. So if TrackSync=3DLoop, you would always create a second loop that was an exact multiple of the master loop.=20 I'm not sure I understand your "Latching" mode. To make a loop that is exactly the same size as the master loop, but begin recording=20 at any point within the master loop, you could use the "Track Copy" parameter set to "Timing". Here, when you select an empty track,=20 it initializes it with an empty loop of the same size as the master loop, then enters Overdub mode. For example if the master track was 4 seconds long, TrackCopy=3DTiming, and you selected the next track at second 2 of the master track, you would instantly get an empty loop of 4 seconds on the next track, then begin overdubbing into it at second 2. The tracks would remain in sync, and the audio in the second track would be at the same relative location to the master track if you retriggered them at the same time. There is no built-in way to have a normal Record operation start immediately (with TrackSync=3Doff) but still quantize the end of the recording so that the loop is exactly one multiple of the master loop. You could do this in scripts though. This seems to be closer to your latching mode. But I'm confused by this statement: "The advantage here is that later when you stop playback of the second loop, and then start it again, it will know to begin=20 playing at a particular location during the masters playback" In Mobius, tracks are not technically stopped and started, they are muted and unmuted. When you mute a track, it continues "playing" silently so that the loop position keeps advancing relative the master track. When you unmute, there are several possible behaviors depending on the Mute Mode parameter. MuteMode=3DContinuous The loop is unmuted from the current location. MuteMode=3DStart The loop is retriggered from the beginning. MuteMode=3DRun The loop is retriggered from the location it had when was first muted. Once a master loop and a slave loop are knocked out of alignment, you can bring them back into alignment with a Realign function which has several options. Jeff ------_=_NextPart_001_01C76455.6D946C73 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable loop sync semantics=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A=

    Your "Full sync" mode is similar to what Mobius would call "Track = Sync"
    where the start and end of the recording are "quantized" to a = location
    in the master loop.  The quantization point may either = be the beginning
    of the master loop, a cycle within the loop, or a = subcycle within the loop.
    It is usually accurate to think of a cycle = as a measure and a subcycle
    as a beat.  So if TrackSync=3DLoop, = you would always create a second
    loop that was an exact multiple of = the master loop.

    =0A=

    I'm not sure I understand your "Latching" mode.  To make a = loop
    that is exactly the same size as the master loop, but begin = recording
    at any point within the master loop, you could use the = "Track Copy"
    parameter set to "Timing".  Here, when you select = an empty track,
    it initializes it with an empty loop of the same = size as the master
    loop, then enters Overdub mode.  For example = if the master track
    was 4 seconds long, TrackCopy=3DTiming, and you = selected the next track
    at second 2 of the master track, you would = instantly get an empty loop
    of 4 seconds on the next track, then = begin overdubbing into it at
    second 2.  The tracks would remain = in sync, and the audio in the
    second track would be at the same = relative location to the master
    track if you retriggered them at the = same time.

    =0A=

    There is no built-in way to have a normal Record operation = start
    immediately (with TrackSync=3Doff) but still quantize the end = of the
    recording so that the loop is exactly one multiple of the = master loop.
    You could do this in scripts though.  This seems to = be closer to your
    latching mode.  But I'm confused by this = statement:

    =0A=

      "The advantage here is that later when you stop playback = of
       the second loop, and then start it again, it will = know to begin
       playing at a particular location during = the masters playback"

    =0A=

    In Mobius, tracks are not technically stopped and started, = they
    are muted and unmuted.  When you mute a track, it = continues
    "playing" silently so that the loop position keeps = advancing
    relative the master track.  When you unmute, there are = several
    possible behaviors depending on the Mute Mode parameter.

    =0A=

      MuteMode=3DContinuous
        The loop is = unmuted from the current location.

    =0A=

      MuteMode=3DStart
        The loop is retriggered = from the beginning.

    =0A=

      MuteMode=3DRun
        The loop is retriggered = from the location it had when
        was first muted.

    =0A=

    Once a master loop and a slave loop are knocked out of = alignment,
    you can bring them back into alignment with a Realign = function which
    has several options.

    =0A=

    Jeff

    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C76455.6D946C73-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 12 04:07:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FDBF3BEF7; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 21:06:00 -0700 From: "David G. Brown" Subject: Re: Using 2 EDP's, not Stereo To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: "David G. Brown" Message-id: <002201c7645b$bf0f21f0$6402a8c0@david> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=utf-8; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <535477868.1173483175170.JavaMail.root@fepweb06> Resent-Message-ID: <8zsobD.A.t0C.lHN9FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 04:07:01 +0000 (UTC) Ted, How do you control which EDP and which chain of effects you will send your signal to? Do you use an A/B switching box at the front end of the chain and, if so, which one? David ----- Original Message ----- From: "tEd ® kiLLiAn" To: Cc: "Mark Trewella" Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 4:32 PM Subject: Re: Using 2 EDP's, not Stereo Mark, I used to use 2 EDPs as a synched stereo pair for many years. But now I use the 2 of them seperately with 100% rhythmic (loop lenght) independence. Each one feeds its own dedicated string of stereo processors before returning to my mixer 's channel inputs. Some wicked/crazy asunchronous stero mayhem can result -- and often does. -- tEd ® kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=6378076 http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=CBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=view_profile&id=121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ---- Mark Trewella wrote: > So a few of you may have seen my post about getting rid of my LP1 and > going back to the EDP. It simply comes down to my looping style and > what I want to accomplish etc. There are many things the LP1 can do > that the EDP can not do and vise versa. Its a matter of style really. > > Anyway, I am considering maybe going to a 2 EDP setup. I need some > advice from any of you guys running things this way. I have no > interest in stereo but would be doing it to mainly expand what can be > done with the EDP by adding another one. Any info from someone who > has some experience with this would be appreciated! Thanks, > > Mark > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: 3/8/2007 10:58 AM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 12 05:35:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B47DE3BF01; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:35:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=c076T2Xj2ilu+yBq3oxTHJP5tlJpU4S2CQsy6Jpi7jd9K/fNRy3/wcqD6vjgpvqRL1paeuxxX2Be9dCzJqwJk+B8oSEdAz9B+knGyMD0jetL+SgK5kb2GtkSyvSK/MsrEX5U6dTTupt9Vvex2L3WiECJentR+PidV2nzLsXU7tc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=cOi8v0zg9+uaIzYV0/km12UFw27Se/U4dTUl0l8qfgLxT7/hst7xYg+mQbgaCMCF84NVApazuRcXyaSr0zNNJn1BHwPt9rwZ/w+N9DDUkCQmS+uPaqiCRe1tKeFiMIyZgd68LDS6zfGBXTtMNms6aH/EBTsfqpDB7dAzYxH0enU= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 01:35:57 -0400 From: "Mark Trewella" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Anyone trying to sell a Digitech PMC-10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 05:35:58 +0000 (UTC) Anyone? Seems like a good unit for controlling EDP's. Contact me if anyone has one for sale. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 12 11:33:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 366713BF01; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:33:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=rJFgDl1QOOmE6JWTvu1HkBwEOlmKp+/ROABVk/4aYO5htdUosawCDCeHBEIWvfn4ehvZLrAzDsiSR2R1LMA/noVsGrxg11DtDHzi1imkyCw4KI/Mozec0MwE/HW5a3JyM67M5WMv3OWEmW67h0X672/zHePHm/64NIsXieqb+2s= ; X-YMail-OSG: 13g2uFAVM1noT.aa3OorPL70rufrLbJYdjv53Z.JI0YKiuYmqXRrBt8HgiFMhBdsBQDBzk6hdVpLrG3d55PmHtolJLo8CKfS3Sagmaqu3JAd5znXh2Sm65DEWRHiLvnesbrChgGgezjO Message-ID: <00db01c7649a$51e67f30$6902a8c0@PC576340162804> From: "Ben" To: References: Subject: Re: loopers-delight recommended reading Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:33:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="koi8-r"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: <6B2kvD.A.R3B.mqT9FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:33:59 +0000 (UTC) For the first one it's easy ;-) http://www.erictamm.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dmitry A.Khvatov" To: Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 7:25 PM Subject: loopers-delight recommended reading > Hi there! > > Does anybody know, where these books, mentioned in "recommended reading", > can be found for free download? > > "Brian Eno: His Music and the Vertical Color of Sound" - By Eric Tamm. > "Experimental Music (Cage and Beyond)" > "Silence - Lectures and Writings by John Cage" - By John Cage > "John Cage (ex)plain(ed)" - by Richard Kostelanetz. > "Writings About Music" - By Steve Reich > "Stockhausen: Conversations with the Composer" > "Free Play : Improvisation in Life and Art" - by Stephen Nachmanovitch. > "A Guide to Electronic Music" - by Paul Griffiths > "Tape Music Composition" - by David Keane > "Minimalism: Origins" - by Edward Strickland > ___________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! 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Mail et son interface révolutionnaire. http://fr.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 12 12:50:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A81DB3BEF7; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <028101c764a5$406523a0$2302a8c0@chris> From: "Chris@jtc.de" To: References: <45F1B874.40309@pa.msu.edu> Subject: Re: inaccessability of music Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:46:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-RZG-AUTH: gSBzUHIFnvYRpGJuMB9l2uY7g79gUyUTWifMTNE/eNx+ijZ+VyHU6w8ClhN1 X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68935 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:50:09 +0000 (UTC) If the audience would be more open and not fed up with tons of supermarket kind of pop-music, it would be much easier. I miss the hunger, the excitement for new music, apart from the mainstream. Re. the low attendance problem: My problem is not so much playing in front of few people (sometimes I do nevertheless, depends on my personal mood), but to find a promoter who risks it financially to do a show with avantgarde, experimental music. I find it extremely difficult (living in Germany) getting shows. Although I have a record out , a label and a myspace side. CHRISTO JOTA www.myspace.com/christojota ----- Original Message ----- From: John McIntyre To: Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:41 PM Subject: Re: inaccessability of music > Well, if we're going to play "Top this"... (-8 > > I once played a gig where no one showed up. It was at a movie theater > where myself and a musical friend were going to play a live soundtrack > to a pair of silent Western movies. There were to be two performances, > one on Saturday and one on Sunday. For Saturday's performance, no > audience members showed up. With the theater owner's kind permisson, we > used Saturday as a rehearsal; i.e., he ran the film and we played > along. For Sunday's performance, about three people showed up. > > John McIntyre > mcintyre@pa.msu.edu > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 12 14:29:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0C9623BF01; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:29:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: midifriedchicken@comcast.net To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RC-50 for sale. Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:29:49 +0000 Message-Id: <031220071429.26101.45F563DD00045A3F000065F52216527966020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWlkaWZyaWVkY2hpY2tlbkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_26101_1173709789_0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68936 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:29:52 +0000 (UTC) --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_26101_1173709789_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Okay, I know the second I sell this thing, Roland will instantly resolve all the midi sync issues. So, Im going to do all the other RC-50 owners a favor and sell mine. Its in great conditiion. A few small scratches, but is otherwise clean. Includes the box, manual, all other documents including a warranty card. The update 1.1 has been installed. $325 shipped. Paypal only. Thanks --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_26101_1173709789_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    Okay, I know the second I sell this thing, Roland will instantly resolve all the midi sync issues. So, Im going to do all the other RC-50 owners a favor and sell mine.
    Its in great conditiion. A few small scratches, but is otherwise clean. Includes the box, manual, all other documents including a warranty card. The update 1.1 has been installed.
    $325 shipped. Paypal only.
    Thanks
    --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_26101_1173709789_0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 12 15:28:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00CBB3BF00; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:28:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 11:28:11 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for March 10, 2007 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <45F57F9B.3070104@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68937 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:28:46 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2007/070310.html I host the Saturday AM/FM Show every other week where I play electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #104 March 10, 2006. During Phase I of this show, I continued the special on the sampler CDs that come with each issue of E-dition electronic music magazine. Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [The Redundant Forgotten E-dition #12 (Groove) Rocker] VA [Broekhuis, The Beginning E-dition #12 (Groove) Keller, and Schonwalder] VA [[`ramp]] Spinegrinder E-dition #12 (Groove) VA [Tony Andersen] Echo Valley E-dition #12 (Groove) VA [Stephen Parsick] Der Reverend E-dition #12 (Groove) [`ramp] The Warsaw Disaster Looking Back In Anger (doombient) Parallel Worlds Different Pathways Obsessive Surrealism (DiN) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== David Findlay Wind Song Delightful Voyages (none) Joe Frawley Cabin Fever Tangerine (none) Joe Frawley Death By Water Tangerine (none) Joe Frawley X + Y Tangerine (none) Joe Frawley The House Was Full Tangerine (none) of Books Joe Frawley Coda Tangerine (none) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== No Rules Locked in a Soulcage Where We Belong (none) Electric Kompany ZRM Electric Kompany (none) Daryl Stuermer Masala Mantra Go (InsideOut) Daryl Stuermer Ying Yang Boogie The Electric Collection (Unicorn Digital) Alan Morse The Rite of Left Four O'clock and Hysteria (InsideOut) Alan Morse Chroma Four O'clock and Hysteria (InsideOut) T.A.O. Run Away The Abnormal Observations (Unicorn Digital) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) I return to the AM/FM Show on March 24. On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDs that come with each issue of E-dition electronic music magazine. Bill ====================================================================== Host of the AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST (GMT-5:00). Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from "Beyond the Barriers." Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Web Site - http://soundscapes.us/amfm Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml ====================================================================== The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to post playlists or track airplay? The progdj list solves that problem. The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. There is NO SPAM because I keep the spammers out before the members ever see any hint of it. The progdj list is for DJs (obviously!) and band members, record label personnel, promoters, managers, and anyone else interested in seeing what gets played on the air. Need to find who is playing prog on the radio? Go to the progdj list. To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 12 16:58:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 291B13BEF8; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:58:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:56:49 -0400 (EDT) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: more ambient&other tuba - Ouroboros Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <7qsUf.A.ew.gaY9FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68938 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:58:09 +0000 (UTC) Spent some time recently working with my friend David Morris the tuba player, doing live looping and processing as a duo under the name Ouroboros. http://www.subscapeannex.com/ouroboros/ Recorded some sessions recently, thought I'd share them here. All tracks recorded live, all source audio live-sampled tuba, no post-processing or layering other than cleaning noise using SoundSoap. http://www.subscapeannex.com/tuba/tuba_distort.mp3 Tuba Distort - the mixer gain was set quite high, overdriving the most of the set into clippage. 13min59sec. http://www.subscapeannex.com/tuba/indignantwhales.mp3 Indignant Whales - 9min17sec. Turned out sort of manic carnivalesque in spots. http://www.subscapeannex.com/tuba/elegy.mp3 Elegy - 17min28sec of what starts out a bit jarring, but then morphs into more quiet reflective ambience. best, Steve B Subscape Annex http://www.subscapeannex.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 12 17:35:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DE5E3BEFA; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [69.84.126.202] X-Originating-Email: [aaronleese@hotmail.com] X-Sender: aaronleese@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C1C3B1E@keel.sailpoint.com> From: "aaron leese" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: loop sync semantics Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 12:35:22 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Mar 2007 17:35:22.0435 (UTC) FILETIME=[CFB74930:01C764CC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68939 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Right .... we are of the same thinking here ..... With "latching mode" .. what I am looking for is to begin recording midway through the master .... at some arbitrary point ... but then quantizing the loop to be some multiple of the masters length. such as .. > So if TrackSync=Loop, you would always create a second >loop that was an exact multiple of the master loop. so it sounds like the EDP can do that .......?? When "stopping" and "starting" the loop position relative to the master is noted .... and in latching mode it restarts (or unmutes .. really it would be the same thing) at the same location that you initially recorded it .... so .... if you have an instrumental song, the melody of which is only one measure long (same length as the master, that is) .... but comes in on ... say ... the third beat of that one measure ......... well then we would want this track to unmute itself only at the right time (third beat) ..... so you need to be able to record it as being exactly the same length as the master, but coming in at some particular offset ......... so when you want that melody to pop in ... you hit "start" or "unmute" .... and it comes in at the right time. Sound like ....... > MuteMode=Run > The loop is retriggered from the location it had when > was first muted. > works for this, as long as you mute it at the right location ....... >From: "Jeff Larson" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >, >Subject: RE: loop sync semantics >Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:18:22 -0500 > >Your "Full sync" mode is similar to what Mobius would call "Track Sync" >where the start and end of the recording are "quantized" to a location >in the master loop. The quantization point may either be the beginning >of the master loop, a cycle within the loop, or a subcycle within the loop. >It is usually accurate to think of a cycle as a measure and a subcycle >as a beat. So if TrackSync=Loop, you would always create a second >loop that was an exact multiple of the master loop. > >I'm not sure I understand your "Latching" mode. To make a loop >that is exactly the same size as the master loop, but begin recording >at any point within the master loop, you could use the "Track Copy" >parameter set to "Timing". Here, when you select an empty track, >it initializes it with an empty loop of the same size as the master >loop, then enters Overdub mode. For example if the master track >was 4 seconds long, TrackCopy=Timing, and you selected the next track >at second 2 of the master track, you would instantly get an empty loop >of 4 seconds on the next track, then begin overdubbing into it at >second 2. The tracks would remain in sync, and the audio in the >second track would be at the same relative location to the master >track if you retriggered them at the same time. > >There is no built-in way to have a normal Record operation start >immediately (with TrackSync=off) but still quantize the end of the >recording so that the loop is exactly one multiple of the master loop. >You could do this in scripts though. This seems to be closer to your >latching mode. But I'm confused by this statement: > > "The advantage here is that later when you stop playback of > the second loop, and then start it again, it will know to begin > playing at a particular location during the masters playback" > >In Mobius, tracks are not technically stopped and started, they >are muted and unmuted. When you mute a track, it continues >"playing" silently so that the loop position keeps advancing >relative the master track. When you unmute, there are several >possible behaviors depending on the Mute Mode parameter. > > MuteMode=Continuous > The loop is unmuted from the current location. > > MuteMode=Start > The loop is retriggered from the beginning. > > MuteMode=Run > The loop is retriggered from the location it had when > was first muted. > >Once a master loop and a slave loop are knocked out of alignment, >you can bring them back into alignment with a Realign function which >has several options. > >Jeff > > _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 12 18:13:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 439D73BF02; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:13:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: loop sync semantics Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:13:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C237B0C@keel.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: loop sync semantics Thread-Index: AcdkzNJ1iwwodZ0JRG6lCK9E2Be1hAACm9ig References: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C1C3B1E@keel.sailpoint.com> From: "Jeff Larson" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68940 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 18:13:18 +0000 (UTC) > With "latching mode" .. what I am looking for is to begin recording midway=20 > through the master .... at some arbitrary point ... but then quantizing the=20 > loop to be some multiple of the masters length. > ... > so it sounds like the EDP can do that .......?? I was talking about Mobius. The EDP isn't multi-track so you would need several EDP's connected with "brother sync". I've never done this but to my knowledge brother sync causes both the start and end of the recording to be quantized to the loop start point (or is it cycle start point?) of the master EDP. =20 So, you couldn't get what you call latching mode just with two presses of the record button on the slave EDP. The first press would wait for the master loop start point. You would first have to record a silent loop with quantized start/end points so the loop is exactly as long as the master. Then having done this you can drop in overdubs anywhere you like. The result is similar, but it's a two-step process: first record the empty loop, then drop in overdubs. > so .... if you have an instrumental song, the melody of which is only one=20 > measure long (same length as the master, that is) .... but comes in on ...=20 > say ... the third beat of that one measure ......... well then we would want=20 > this track to unmute itself only at the right time (third beat) ..... so you=20 > need to be able to record it as being exactly the same length as the master,=20 > but coming in at some particular offset ......... so when you want that=20 > melody to pop in ... you hit "start" or "unmute" .... and it comes in at the=20 > right time. > > Sound like ....... > MuteMode=3DRun > The loop is retriggered from the location it had when > was first muted. > > works for this, as long as you mute it at the right location ....... Interesting concept. Yes, MuteMode=3DPause (I made an error, it is Pause not Run) would do this but it would be somewhat hard to use because you have to hit mute at exactly the right spot. It sounds like what you want is to store a "cue point" at some arbitrary location within the loop. With this, you could mute at any location, then when you unmute it automatically stays muted until you reach the cue point, then unmutes. The difficulty with this is deciding where the cue point is. For loopers like Mobius that use the "silent loop copy followed by overdub" approach, we could say that the location of the first overdub into an empty loop becomes the cue point. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 12 21:08:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CA69F3BEFE; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:08:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAEpe9UXUSnInk2dsb2JhbACPGQIBAQcODB6bUw Message-ID: <45F5C12E.8060303@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:07:58 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loop sync semantics References: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C1C3B1E@keel.sailpoint.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C237B0C@keel.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C237B0C@keel.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:08:00 +0000 (UTC) > I was talking about Mobius. The EDP isn't multi-track so you would > need several EDP's connected with "brother sync". I've never done > this but to my knowledge brother sync causes both the start > and end of the recording to be quantized to the loop start point > (or is it cycle start point?) of the master EDP. > > So, you couldn't get what you call latching mode just with two presses > of the record button on the slave EDP. Actually, you do get exactly that. ...then you can Mute,(if you want) the EDP keeps track of time so when you unMute you're still in time. If you get UnSynced somehow all you have to do is the well known Mute>Multiply manoeuvre, which will re-sync you. > The first press would wait for > the master loop start point. Only if Quantise is used > You would first have to record a silent > loop with quantized start/end points so the loop is exactly as long as > the master. Then having done this you can drop in overdubs anywhere > you like. The result is similar, but it's a two-step process: first > record the empty loop, then drop in overdubs. ...and even worse than that, the JamMan does this "Latching" sync with just one button press. :-) andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 12 21:29:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 715283BEF4; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:29:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: loop sync semantics Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:28:44 -0500 Message-ID: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C237B49@keel.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <45F5C12E.8060303@tiscali.co.uk> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: loop sync semantics Thread-Index: Acdk6oWVzdtaK2sCQdqhCmpZm/ZhcQAAGnng References: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C1C3B1E@keel.sailpoint.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C237B0C@keel.sailpoint.com> <45F5C12E.8060303@tiscali.co.uk> From: "Jeff Larson" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 21:29:09 +0000 (UTC) [jeff] > > The first press would wait for the master loop start point. [andy] > Only if Quantise is used Really? I missed that. Page 6-7 doesn't mention that you have to have Quantise=3DCycle but that would make sense. But if Quantise is not on, how does it know to make the loop an exact multiple of the master cycle? When you end the recording it could not "continue until the next pulse comes in" (step 7 on 6-8). If it did then you would end up with a loop that was a fraction of the master cycle, it started in the middle but ended at the next "pulse". If Quantize is off, does it always assume that a brother sync'd recording will be a multiple of the master cycle length, in effect a different form of "relative" quantization? =20 Or is it more like Tempo Select? Thanks, Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 12 23:00:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D92283BEFE; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:00:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAABJ49UXUSnInk2dsb2JhbAAYjwICAQEHDgweiCuTTQ Message-ID: <45F5DB8A.6050707@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:00:26 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loop sync semantics References: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C1C3B1E@keel.sailpoint.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C237B0C@keel.sailpoint.com> <45F5C12E.8060303@tiscali.co.uk> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C237B49@keel.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C237B49@keel.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:00:22 +0000 (UTC) Jeff Larson wrote: > [jeff] >>> The first press would wait for the master loop start point. > > [andy] >> Only if Quantise is used > > > Really? I missed that. Page 6-7 doesn't mention that you have to > have Quantise=Cycle but that would make sense. > > But if Quantise is not on, how does it know to make the loop an exact > multiple of the master cycle? The Slave EDP picks up the looptime by measuring the gap between 2 cycle starts. > When you end the recording it could not > "continue until the next pulse comes in" (step 7 on 6-8). If it did > then you would end up with a loop that was a fraction of the master > cycle, it started in the middle but ended at the next "pulse". When you start recording the EDP already knows how long the cycle is. > > If Quantize is off, does it always assume that a brother sync'd > recording will be a multiple of the master cycle length, in effect a > different form of "relative" quantization? Only by default. Use the Overdub button to Toggle sync on/off (whatever the Quantise param) > Or is it more like Tempo Select? no, but EDP has that too :-) Matthias worked out all this stuff to make it possible for loopers to play synced together very easily. In practice, it "just works". > > Thanks, > Jeff you're welcome andy > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 12 23:48:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 35EE63BEF5; Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:48:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=UoYGcjwffcImUYjHe7c32u2mt72PsXCZvIzASwoduiuioNKnVK81rTDUBzpHjjNwF3bja+GlRtIJmVBN0HqW6C/vPHeq1y/+1RWyxZd3mPbXQHDmv6z47wvwHRHVXDN9bfC3f2NOUxGRFh0Ak24smAyUh5fGF7YPYo9ZRhVjbKY=; X-YMail-OSG: _Fg2e4UVM1nFY6g7z30q_frhA.iNIOVGUpJ2AQv7bYwVVcrMpA4aCWffosdM_SO.9UXvMxSm56wfV_fy5IHxQpr5r2uZ.83fCnARAbbDFVm98fMuX8fVA0tUBfRR7YU- Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 16:48:16 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Time Factor To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <45F5DB8A.6050707@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <270451.73794.qm@web38612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:48:18 +0000 (UTC) not out yet but in youtube http://youtube.com/watch?v=kwiLHFLXW_k looks fun! cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 13 03:48:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C9743BEE2; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:48:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=Bay9O1VujlZIXM90WTBPKs8UDt7DW6LmOZ9vXwigZtGNXhKbEG1Zhyw+Qp/H8vseFhc5oQwarhlh7yQp88HSdthkUiU8hHBQBaKsjPYcmxaOhlTtXPnvjUlYwO7jFl/Bs44ufaTw85XR8cAtKTtnvuEXJjRHO+5I0iTiHzXe3sM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=m7Mx8o0AVX5E6KFK1ZsLX6LXF2jzflWZAL6/vO4laCtPFyYQJu4+Z0SleAm8xDgp1V7PI2/jcOn84STH49f5xb65VVloM3mPcx+u2ppaTLrdgFKDOmp84ls/VI/AFCkujDhu1CdrxLlVZBBnU0z3PS65u1Z7FvCGEubUN5sFY+c= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 23:48:06 -0400 From: "Mark Trewella" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: FS: Nobels MF-2, Midi Merge, Radial X-amp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <_qqtTD.A.EfF.b8h9FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 03:48:43 +0000 (UTC) I have changed my looping rig yet again (from LP1 to dual EDP's) and now have the following items for sale, I figured I would check to see if any of you guys are interested first before trying to sell else where. Nobels MF-2 Midi Footcontroller - $200 shipped, only 2 months old, some velcro on the bottom, works great with the Looperlative, can add up to 4 expression pedals! http://www.nobels.com/en/index.htm Midi Solutions Merger - $65 shipped, a great unit for merging two midi signals, only 2 months old. http://www.midisolutions.com/prodmrg.htm Radial X-amp - $150 shipped , Converts line level output and impedance to instrument level output and impedance with no signal loss. Also only 2 months old. http://www.radialeng.com/di-xamp.htm Us only. Please shoot me an email if you are interested or want to see some pictures. Pay-pal is probably easiest but money order is cool too. -Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 13 12:25:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6EE63BF00; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:25:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 542308165 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Replacing a LED on the EDP Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:25:18 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7202135FC3@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Replacing a LED on the EDP Thread-Index: Acdlaqk6AkrqQPWCSDGQbzNsIaP32w== From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2007 12:25:18.0501 (UTC) FILETIME=[A951FD50:01C7656A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:25:20 +0000 (UTC) >>Anyone have any experience with this. I may be obtaining an EDP that is said to have a Record LED that only lights up orange and red but not green. I am thinking that the LED probably just needs to be replaced. Does anyone know where I can get a replacement LED and would putting the new one in be fairly easy?<< well, to answer the second part first.... provided your soldering chops = are reasonable, & that you find the correct replacement & orientate it = properly (observing the flat on one side of the lens moulding), you = should be ok. but this LED of yours is exhibiting some very odd behaviour, I = think..... the old three colour LEDs would be a combination red & green = device with a common cathode or anode (can't remember) & a connector = each for the two elements; individually operated, you'd get either red = or green, while running both together would produce yellowy-orange.=20 so how can the green not be working & yet you can still make orange?=20 I suppose if the green had failed completely & the driver was operating = the red at two distinct voltage levels (i.e. only half-on when the green = was supposed to be on aswell) you might see what appeared to be orange = but was in fact just dim-red. dunno. does the rest of the thing work ok? d. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 13 12:35:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AC103BF0E; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:35:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 655770605 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: USB Volume Pedal? Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:35:26 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A7202135FC4@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: USB Volume Pedal? Thread-Index: AcdlbBPwbnvspEjYQquWSNxMEiDHLg== From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Mar 2007 12:35:26.0982 (UTC) FILETIME=[1400D260:01C7656C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:35:29 +0000 (UTC) >>Just to change the subject slightly, is there a USB volume pedal? Something like one pedal off a FCB1010 without the switches that sends MIDI CC over USB? It would sure be handy. . .<< I sort of want the same thing in reverse..... but to answer your = question, there are any number of midi hardware controllers that also = have USB sockets, but (& this is something I have whined about before) = most of them don't have sockets for pedals. even "controller keyboards", = for heaven's sake.... I have several evolution keyboards (the cheap = programmable sort) that I've drilled holes in so I could add sockets for = expression pedals. I have no idea what's stopping these people from = fitting pedal sockets as standard..... all of these blasted keyboards = have sockets for sustain pedals, after all, but they expect you to work = a volume knob or slider with your teeth or something. ahem. so but you could get one of these devices http://www.evolution-i.net/company/news_x_session.htm & make a hole in it & install a socket for a pedal. now, what I want is a little box with audio in & out on 1/4" jacks, & a = midi in & through, & a CC-controlled VCA in there, so that I can control = the volume of a standard rock instrument (like a guitar, bass, hammond, = mellotron, whatever) using midi CC from a sequencer. at the moment, I have to hook up a midi>CV converter to a semi-modular = analogue synth & run my audio through that, which rather ties up the = synth..... have I missed something obvious out there that already does = this? duncan.=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 13 16:22:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E923C3BF18; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:22:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=cyRKYpFrF9nTDtBfn0fieU+Oh0Wto6ShrdZSjevXpTOux7rIv7IZuHOV0+siNW+N; h=Received:Message-ID:X-Priority:Reply-To:X-Mailer:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <380-220073213172625660@earthlink.net> X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: r.d.w.i.v@earthlink.net X-Mailer: EarthLink MailBox 2005.2.122.0 (Windows) From: "r.d.w.i.v@earthlink.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: USB Volume Pedal? Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:26:25 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-ELNK-Trace: 2f0e8e63232cd512ba38eb534146710e7e972de0d01da940c0a9dd8dc54aff460760f2c3027e9876350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 4.225.185.0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:22:13 +0000 (UTC) > now, what I want is a little box with audio in & out on 1/4" jacks, & a midi in & through, & a CC-controlled VCA in there, so that I can control the volume of a standard rock instrument (like a guitar, bass, hammond, mellotron, whatever) using midi CC from a sequencer. > at the moment, I have to hook up a midi>CV converter to a semi-modular analogue synth & run my audio through that, which rather ties up the synth..... have I missed something obvious out there that already does this? Here's one Nobles MV-C Midi Volume Controller http://www.nobels.com/en/index.htm Rick Williamson From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 13 16:34:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 34C163BF1A; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:34:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Anyone have experience with the ReJam? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C7658D.70370D9E" Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 11:34:13 -0500 Message-ID: <91E3C26C927E804CA5694A2999E98209031529@MTCSBSERVER.mtc.local> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Anyone have experience with the ReJam? Thread-Index: AcdljW93tnSjgOEXSNKujd2AmiOAoA== From: "Matt" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 16:34:07 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7658D.70370D9E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some guys I played with a few years ago (www.station2music.com) both use Bob Sellon's ReJam. I'm pretty interested in it (and with the MIDI capabilities) but I'm curious if any of you guys have ever had any experience with it. Any thoughts? =20 =20 It seems like with the ability to have 8 tracks simultaneously it would have a lot of flexibility. I'm curious as to how the interface is....like if I use a MIDI controller, if I'd be able to record/stop/undo loops independantly a la the RC-50, or if you have to cycle through banks to change tracks. =20 =20 =20 -Matt S.=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7658D.70370D9E Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Some = guys I played=20 with a few years ago (www.station2music.com) both = use Bob=20 Sellon's ReJam.  I'm pretty interested in it (and with the MIDI=20 capabilities) but I'm curious if any of you guys have ever had any = experience=20 with it.  Any thoughts? 
     
    It = seems like with=20 the ability to have 8 tracks simultaneously it would have a lot of=20 flexibility.  I'm curious as to how the interface is....like if I = use a=20 MIDI controller, if I'd be able to record/stop/undo loops independantly = a la the=20 RC-50, or if you have to cycle through banks to change tracks. =20
     
     
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    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7658D.70370D9E-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 13 19:11:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0F3933BF14; Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=jaNdZkyE3DR6NRVZuSfzgpZn7f6CWOXJDKXIviLEfRmIv2K/T31YGtO5XRWwqmwkRrtZintsOQ3ZMxayKBMKK+7k/kT2ZksedfL5wPGrwz8/7dJiXkFb3DHr/8mpvOhWoT4ka2Gbm5VOoWzZcGgtjqr7X0tFxQkKEfUkflLDgFs=; X-YMail-OSG: wtcd2SkVM1lsFMuc5mkSAZmruGbH0eeOgcQSl._nd2MWx2FKFEAElythwE0oBxf4iQ-- Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 12:11:17 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Subject: cc volme pedal To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <199332.59401.qm@web32705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:11:19 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, Yes. 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TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 14 00:01:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 836FC3BF0A; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:01:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=1qS/Kvky40nchE3lnR006x8tyvP2mnJAli5vG2lPggDmucRXvohPTQTl+BxZlNnIQ1KCFd7Tz2dPbZAa04/8NIB1dT6D9j34uhaBjNhA/m4OPt39sJSaRorkQCd7pAjVDOggr/liOPgqM+m8XWtSIeES3lnvMTWWUjpdjXS4w6U=; X-YMail-OSG: Z8Cm4dgVM1n2qivigW7agb_W6wfPBpNBihoRrlnBR1sc9pdBjrARMH6pFNoZiD1WvTTpV7xJ_e9K.fQ2duowFdVwifEyOfOHxUF5CyxDxOno2H0WAbRxgf.Ku.Eks4PZdZWFWptwC76s2QRw_qfOD.Xq Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:01:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: EDP more loops question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C237B0C@keel.sailpoint.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <424044.97597.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68951 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:01:52 +0000 (UTC) Hey gang! In doing more loops is there a way to trigger lets say loop 3 when being in quantize mode(set to loop or cycle)after muting loop one,without having to wait for the next cycle? thanx! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Bored stiff? Loosen up... 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Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 14 00:12:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8499D3BF10; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:12:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=l5ZGPPXPnmoMYEhk5couEzofQZeavFT2HO5PsU77ZtxwfuvU1ArYGpKl2mRe5TrSMtlb5umyDqsCM9w7p/P9mVSLd4bIkNXKHhwtDygpud2EJkX7N/kOqx4D3AupPee4MCHnhWCdufr6fndwIE3yM4T57o2T+RILYT0f9R19Xb8=; X-YMail-OSG: f6F...4VM1l5tc9wbHnm488QaCCBgY0SikvAZyMasiuzVG9GqiRQQoA03RFMGUdffPOLVSmhvjKmUMcSeMJkFadafNvcZn_VJKd0NZH5XVDNEsChFZjUpFEJLIxLkjWzeskPt47f0jzM.PxmTunBdCKr4Q-- Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:12:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Playing to nobody (was inaccessability of music) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20070310071417.KMAF2807.fed1rmmtao106.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <312291.53479.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0OepLB.A.gaH.V3z9FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68952 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:12:06 +0000 (UTC) Oh brother Rick this are the worst of a kind, been there as well but yes they do pay well,i bet if u had done the gig with nothing but a green wig,a mic and a karaoke CD they would not have known the fuckin difference! Hey Gary i do remeber that gig in San Diego! although it was unattended i had a blast,specially as Rick dropped that cowbell on the floor makng a loud esplosion noise in the middle of a meditative buiding loop which woke everybody up including me! but next day it was Mexico very well attended and well Rick can tell you about the third eye girl... cheers Luis > > By this point I was hopping mad and stressed and I > protested vociferously, > but he was our boss and we were compelled to > move back to where we had been. We never worked > for them again, so I > imagine that my protest wasn't taken well. > > --->This sort of thing happens with corporate > gigs--they don't really have > much consideration for the musicians > > > >luckily, it was a very lucrative gig, but boy did I > feel like a glorified > servant that day. > > -->Ah, that's because you were, Mr. Rick. > Mr. Rick did not mention the time he came all the > way to San Diego to play a > gig with me for less than half a dozen people. It > was me, him and Luis > Angelo--my friend Harvey Starr came (I was using a > Ztar) and a bass player > named Are Jay who was on the LD list at the time > also showed, but it was > mostly unattended--and we played anyway! > Gary (who has made a living playing to nobody) > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 14 00:34:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AA44E3BF10; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:34:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=kpcZOG6JvoU5fMKV2P2AePidTmfXP5Je+wFAoej21mLTYeHttWDzWhHej68HnbGGXLnDbKnMBt9oJpt9zipK8zd+hiSXyXNSSpph/g8vWWbbLuS45t3YD3n2hRUpNrVc3akJuggZAdZwwV1diYiR/9c8v2TzMzgM4UWP+RedfwU=; X-YMail-OSG: 3RZAdg0VM1l_wFc5Edg2B4Nf3lJrX7NHlwp7zQ33gQSIh17CVy6m5Vl2JtBJsG5A32hlS71KLJJvj5kMRSuy0Ylx4nuOQh2doOmFc67k43865U7cgMsm9SEMJgmIaPUW4qFB671y0.IZnj6uc5Ji9bkPdw-- Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:34:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Time Factor (was looping pedal with decay?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <310791.99000.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <66642.66790.qm@web38614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:34:33 +0000 (UTC) I really like the DD-20 as well,i am curious about the Eventide time factor though...if it does looping and delays without having to manually switch modes it might replace my DL4 and DD-20,having midi and being upgradable via usb is also a plus above all of the rest... but ok i know the price isnt;-) Luis --- mark sottilaro wrote: > As I've sold off most of my dedicated hardware in > favor of Mobius software looping, I must say that I > kept my DD-20 Gigadelay. I really like it AND it's > stereo (Important if you're using stereo effects or > synths and want to keep that sound) > > > --- radio radio wrote: > > > thanks for the replies! I think the Gibson EDP is > > out of my price range, > > unless I can find a rediculous deal on one on > Ebay, > > but I am glad to know > > that that the Boomerang does have a decay - I did > > not realize that. Right > > now that may look like the best option, although I > > am a bit wary of the > > noise that many reviewers report as my rig is > > already quite noisey. Another > > person recommended the Electro Harmonix 2880 or > > their 16 second delay (and > > mentioned that the original lexicon jamman and the > > electrix repeater also > > had a function to set the feedback). I'm glad to > > know that I what I want > > does indeed exist and for the help in narrowing it > > down. Now I can return > > the looper I bought that I thought had a set-able > > feedback but does not > > (digitech jamman). In looking at these other ones, > I > > can't tell which ones > > accept more than one type of input (e.g., > > instrument, mic, and line levels). > > I would want at least the ability to use an > > instrument and a mic, although I > > wouldn't necessarily need to be able to do both > > simultaneously, so long as I > > got quick at switching. > > > > Does anyone else out there want to weigh in on > this > > issue before I spend the > > money I don't have? The quest is for a looping > pedal > > that takes both > > instrument level and line level and which you can > > set the feedback for the > > loops (versus having them loop infinitely). I > > currently do not have any rack > > equipment, is that a bridge I want to cross? Is > > there anything else I should > > be considering in a addition? > > > > The ones mentioned so far are: > > > > Gibson Echoplex > > Boomerang plus > > Electro-Harmonix 2820 > > Electro-Harmonix 16 second delay > > Original Lexicon Jamman > > Electrix Repeater > > > > ????????????????????????????? > > > THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > Eben > > > > On 2/27/07, mike@michaelplishka.com > > wrote: > > > > > > If I read you correctly, the Gibson EDP does > what > > you want and tons more! > > > I upgraded from a Boomerang plus which does have > > the decay but you pick it > > > ahead of time (i.e. 20 reps, 10, 1 or infinite I > > beleive) > > > > > > my 2 cents... > > > > > > Plish > > > > > > www.myspace.com/michaelplishka > > > www.myspace.com/bohdanovich > > > www.michaelplishka.com > > > > > > > The only things that I know of that will do > what > > you > > > > describe are delay pedals. I think the Giga > > delay > > > > would be your best bet, but I'd also read > > somewhere > > > > that this one artist(I can't remebmer his > name) > > uses > > > > Eventide rack mount processors set up with an > > > > algorhythm that was set with a 95% feedback so > > that > > > > his loops would decay over time. That sounds > > more like > > > > what you want, but that stuff is way > expensive. > > Other > > > > than that, sounds like all you need is a > digital > > delay > > > > unit with copious anmounts of time and to be > > able to > > > > set the feedback setting as needed to make > the > > loops > > > > decay over time. > > > > --- radio radio > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> I want to buy a pedal and get into looping > but > > am > > > >> having trouble > > > >> figuring out which one will best meet my > needs > > (and > > > >> budget). I've > > > >> learned a LOT from this web site, but still > > can't > > > >> quite figure out > > > >> everything and would really benefit from a > > human > > > >> (albeit > > > >> computer-mediated) interaction. Thanks in > > advance > > > >> for taking the time > > > >> to read this and respond - I hope that I will > > be > > > >> able to "give back" > > > >> some day when I know something worth while. > > Until > > > >> then, I guess I > > > >> should donate to this site if I get any > > responses. > > > >> > > > >> From what I've read and thought about, it > looks > > like > > > >> what will be the > > > >> most important distinction for me is that the > > loops > > > >> will be able to > > > >> decay. In other words, you can lay down a > loop, > > lay > > > >> down another one > > > >> on top, and then another, and so on, and > > eventually > > > >> the first one dies > > > >> out, then the second one, and so on. I > imagine > > this > > > >> working like a > > > >> delay pedal in which you can set the decay > (or > > is > > > >> that called > > > >> feedback?). So you could "morph" over time > into > > new > > > >> things, without > > > >> being stuck with your original loops, and > > without > > > >> having to open a new > > > >> loop and start from scratch with only one new > > track > > > >> each time you > > > >> wanted to change it up. > > > >> > > > >> The three pedals I've looked into are: > > > >> > > > >> BOSS RC20xl, Digitech Jamman, and BOSS DD-20 > > giga > > > >> delay > > > >> > > > >> I thought the BOSS was it, but now I'm > thinking > > that > > > >> it doesn't allow > > > >> this thing that I described. I can't tell if > > you can > > > >> do this with the > > > >> Jamman or not - does anyone know? You could > do > > this > > > >> with the DD-20, > > > >> but I can't tell if you'd be able to set a > > > >> loop/delay time up with > > > >> your foot or not (versus having to set it to > a > > > >> certain number of > === message truncated === www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 14 00:49:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2505F3BF13; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=hle16f1NiMl/NYwfhu8dklChimNNXAXeJloBtU3hDKSo4FLnR4Zb1HimkJIOGTHQElzLob9g7FQkzcEVO3cE96nfJgvgQL/3s4XyPqI42yet3pzANaEDS7n8EQeO27KV0KzXpfIw2dJEpT8Ch0FDJUE99nSJr5uqwrN/zZFU1Io=; X-YMail-OSG: FmJK4EYVM1nvt.XzRoERYNUUpiZBiGUA3NnAllP7pLr2aPw4e.uXoHFuB4V8zIbyxJbHX14Tu8RRUOvpDjVm_efeqDlU1pmb72e_AMJIoc6SabaaR6A7.EeA.bjnqlKldZMAfFDWlrMAUBoDku5hJzp2lg-- Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 17:49:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: RE: audient(s) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20070309171439.A2A783BEC2@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <171907.20894.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 00:49:24 +0000 (UTC) Ive opted for that route as well,ive got a night shift job 2 days a week to support my family and give me the luxury of choosing the gigs i want to do and not have to do.Living strictly from on demand paid gigs specially the ones you dont want to do but have to, can be quite depressing! Luis > actually was fortunate enough to make a living > playing hammered > dulcimer for over 10 yrs and got tired of having to > do "on demand" > music.... So I went back to a day job so that I > could devote my > creative side to doing music and gigs that I found > interesting. > > Paul Haslem > www.dulcify.ca > > > > At 12:08 PM 3/9/2007, you wrote: > >Quoting Chris Smart : > > > >>How many of you gig and do other musical things to > make a living? Fine > >>if you play one gig a month and are a dentist by > day or something, but > >>don't you want more butts in those seats, just to > pay the bills? > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 14 02:05:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B83E43BF14; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 02:05:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tucker Tota Subject: 2880 Question Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 22:04:59 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 02:05:02 +0000 (UTC) Hello. I currently own a 16 Second Digital Delay that has been upgraded. I want to move up to the 2880, but have a question. On my 16 Second Delay, if I am in overdub mode and pressed the play button, the machine would immediately go in to record mode and make a new loop. I can't find anyway of doing this in the 2880 manual. Is it possible to be listening to one loop (currently in playback), and instantly start a new loop? Only having to press one button and not having to press one button to stop the current loop and then pressing another to record a new one. Thanks, Javier From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 14 03:01:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 208C73BF0D; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:01:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:00:30 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: 2880 Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120f5488e7fcd3b8f274555504f6604a7d868aa843b54925d7a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:01:19 +0000 (UTC) Pressing the "New Loop" button on the 2880 will do this. >Hello. > >I currently own a 16 Second Digital Delay that has been upgraded. I >want to move up to the 2880, but have a question. > >On my 16 Second Delay, if I am in overdub mode and pressed the play >button, the machine would immediately go in to record mode and make >a new loop. > >I can't find anyway of doing this in the 2880 manual. Is it possible >to be listening to one loop (currently in playback), and instantly >start a new loop? Only having to press one button and not having to >press one button to stop the current loop and then pressing another >to record a new one. > >Thanks, >Javier -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 14 03:07:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0DD123BF10; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Tucker Tota Subject: Re: 2880 Question Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:07:26 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Are you sure?...because I downloaded the manual and it says that during PLAYBACK "New loop" puts it into "record-ready mode" and during OVERDUB "New Loop" button is ignored. I just want to make sure before I buy it. This is something I do a lot during shows, and I definitely wouldn't buy it if it couldn't do this. Thanks On Mar 13, 2007, at 11:00 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > Pressing the "New Loop" button on the 2880 will do this. > >> Hello. >> >> I currently own a 16 Second Digital Delay that has been upgraded. I >> want to move up to the 2880, but have a question. >> >> On my 16 Second Delay, if I am in overdub mode and pressed the play >> button, the machine would immediately go in to record mode and make a >> new loop. >> >> I can't find anyway of doing this in the 2880 manual. Is it possible >> to be listening to one loop (currently in playback), and instantly >> start a new loop? Only having to press one button and not having to >> press one button to stop the current loop and then pressing another >> to record a new one. >> >> Thanks, >> Javier > > > -- > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 14 05:05:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3010D3BF16; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 05:05:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:04:05 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: 2880 Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120f5488e7fcd3b8f27b1eea1d0f7c6e60ab99d0a690b980324350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 05:05:32 +0000 (UTC) If the 2880 is currently playing a loop, then pressing "Next Loop" will prepare it to record a new loop but continue playing the existing loop until you press the 'new loop" button a second time, in which case it presents you with a clean slate and begins recording... What do you mean by "overdub mode"? If you are going to trash the old loop and instantly start a new one, then why does it matter if it is playing or overdubbing at the moment of erasure? >Are you sure?...because I downloaded the manual and it says that >during PLAYBACK "New loop" puts it into "record-ready mode" and >during OVERDUB "New Loop" button is ignored. > >I just want to make sure before I buy it. This is something I do a >lot during shows, and I definitely wouldn't buy it if it couldn't do >this. > >Thanks > > > >On Mar 13, 2007, at 11:00 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > >>Pressing the "New Loop" button on the 2880 will do this. >> >>>Hello. >>> >>>I currently own a 16 Second Digital Delay that has been upgraded. >>>I want to move up to the 2880, but have a question. >>> >>>On my 16 Second Delay, if I am in overdub mode and pressed the >>>play button, the machine would immediately go in to record mode >>>and make a new loop. >>> >>>I can't find anyway of doing this in the 2880 manual. Is it >>>possible to be listening to one loop (currently in playback), and >>>instantly start a new loop? Only having to press one button and >>>not having to press one button to stop the current loop and then >>>pressing another to record a new one. >>> >>>Thanks, >>>Javier >> >> >>-- >>... >>http://www.zmix.net -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 14 05:51:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B6FD3BF15; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 05:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Tucker Tota Subject: Re: 2880 Question Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 01:51:04 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: <_ARnsC.A.NVF.L149FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 05:51:08 +0000 (UTC) If what you say is true, "If the 2880 is currently playing a loop, then pressing "Next Loop" will prepare it to record a new loop but continue playing the existing loop until you press the 'new loop" button a second time, in which case it presents you with a clean slate and begins recording..." Then that works for me. On my 16 Second Delay, you have to press Play/Stop while it is OVERDUBBING or else it will simply stop the loop. There is no new track button. Thanks for your responses. On Mar 14, 2007, at 1:04 AM, Charles Zwicky wrote: > If the 2880 is currently playing a loop, then pressing "Next Loop" > will prepare it to record a new loop but continue playing the existing > loop until you press the 'new loop" button a second time, in which > case it presents you with a clean slate and begins recording... > > What do you mean by "overdub mode"? If you are going to trash the > old loop and instantly start a new one, then why does it matter if it > is playing or overdubbing at the moment of erasure? > >> Are you sure?...because I downloaded the manual and it says that >> during PLAYBACK "New loop" puts it into "record-ready mode" and >> during OVERDUB "New Loop" button is ignored. >> >> I just want to make sure before I buy it. This is something I do a >> lot during shows, and I definitely wouldn't buy it if it couldn't do >> this. >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> On Mar 13, 2007, at 11:00 PM, Charles Zwicky wrote: >> >>> Pressing the "New Loop" button on the 2880 will do this. >>> >>>> Hello. >>>> >>>> I currently own a 16 Second Digital Delay that has been upgraded. I >>>> want to move up to the 2880, but have a question. >>>> >>>> On my 16 Second Delay, if I am in overdub mode and pressed the play >>>> button, the machine would immediately go in to record mode and make >>>> a new loop. >>>> >>>> I can't find anyway of doing this in the 2880 manual. Is it >>>> possible to be listening to one loop (currently in playback), and >>>> instantly start a new loop? Only having to press one button and not >>>> having to press one button to stop the current loop and then >>>> pressing another to record a new one. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Javier >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ... >>> http://www.zmix.net > > > -- > ... > http://www.zmix.net > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 14 07:07:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 179633BF16; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:07:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=WXQGAAmlWKg9n2kxgNpG9oQ+3/tWVNjxpGJ3/MOOKkCCssZl/btvgztx53ycX49C6HauPCQpKTeXJ9wC0EtNwg9j5W+h/6xKehGnY1dCiLAHKKZ6+uE4gylIH2iDyBBvOpByi+x71qf/U0t5pzim0W5z/z9awreugg2qzSgyl5k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=nr6dLULQEbq04yuvksgrMCVAx4vTil/S/8HshRD9CZ0g9RAvM4ZxB2YGvRumbcsvHA0+N5T7AkobGBq+9a6/0XfoXpFiBecwrLeyR4bI3bG4NW6f5Ge6pVwxBEMF8KJBGDPs2Z5vALHVMt6kSnksyOm2F5RzRnAXA/sd9l/g+2c= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <66642.66790.qm@web38614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <66642.66790.qm@web38614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <98038305-93F0-46BE-98BA-3A40D728BAA5@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: Time Factor (was looping pedal with decay?) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:07:43 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:07:49 +0000 (UTC) On 14 mar 2007, at 01.34, L.A. Angulo wrote: > ,i am curious about the > Eventide time factor though...if it does looping and > delays without having to manually switch In some marketing video/advertisement I saw they mentioned that everything in that box is also reachable by MIDI data for external control. That's excellent so far, but I have not found any information regarding if the binded controllers are fixed in the box (as with the Repeater, you need to adjust your MIDI controller pedals to send the correct data) or if you could adjust the bindings in the Eventide box. I didn't see a digital output of any kind in the Eventide box. That would have been awesome for integrating with a computer software based environment. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 14 08:46:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E41C3BF14; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:46:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAANpT90XUSnIvk2dsb2JhbAAYjwQCAQEHDgweiESTbw Message-ID: <45F7B678.6090009@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:46:48 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP more loops question References: <424044.97597.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <424044.97597.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7atVO.A.o4D.2Z79FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:46:46 +0000 (UTC) hi Luis Yes, you can do that. "Quantise" does not have any bearing on how you switch from one loop to another. "SwitchQuant" controls how the edp changes from one loop to another, whether you make the change with NextLoop or access the loops by MIDI. SwitchQuant has a lot of options, depending on how you want to work. I use SwitchQuant=CnF, (Confirm) , so that I can hit Nextloop to select the destination loop and then the change happens immediately on the next press of Record/Overdub/Multiply/Insert/Undo. This way I can chose what happens when going to the next loop, and have it happen exactly when I want.( the downside is that it's always 2 presses to make it happen, so it needs some practise to do quick changes) andy butler L.A. Angulo wrote: > Hey gang! > In doing more loops is there a way to trigger lets say > loop 3 when being in quantize mode(set to loop or > cycle)after muting loop one,without having to wait for > the next cycle? > thanx! > Luis > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Bored stiff? Loosen up... > Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. > http://games.yahoo.com/games/front > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 14 09:15:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C127A3BF0E; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:15:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: 14 Mar 2007 10:15:20 +0100 Message-ID: <13153.62.2.75.66.1173863720.squirrel@webmail.perspectix.com> From: "Bernhard Wagner LD" Reply-To: loopdelightml-NDI3MDE=-@bernhardwagner.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <45F7B678.6090009@tiscali.co.uk> References: <424044.97597.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45F7B678.6090009@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: replace mode by function (was: Re: EDP more loops question) User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:15:24 +0000 (UTC) > SwitchQuant has a lot of options, depending on how you want to work. > I use SwitchQuant=CnF, (Confirm) , so that I can hit Nextloop to select > the destination loop and then the change happens immediately on the next > press of Record/Overdub/Multiply/Insert/Undo. This way I can chose what > happens when going to the next loop, and have it happen exactly when I > want.( the downside is that it's always 2 presses to make it happen, so it > needs some practise to do quick changes) I've been thinking about this, also in other contexts of EDP control. The idea would be: By using a MIDI footcontroller, get rid of the EDP's concept of modes (which are perfectly suited for the situation with the EFC-7!) and instead offer different versions of the same function by sending a preprogrammed sequence of commands to the EDP. Using the SwitchQuant example from above, you could program two NextLoop buttons on your MIDI footcontroller: Button A for "immediate switching" would first send the required SysEx- or Note-commands to change the EDP SwitchQuant mode to OFF and then send the Note-command for NextLoop. Button B for "confirmed switching" would first send the required SysEx- or Note-commands to change the EDP SwitchQuant mode to CnF and then send the Note-command for NextLoop. So instead of adhering to the EDP's mode concept where a function behaves according to a previously configured EDP mode (which you must keep in the back of your head while playing: a cognitive burden), you offer two different functions (which work always the same, ignoring the current EDP mode). This would be interesting also for the insert and substitute-commands... Bernhard From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 14 10:12:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2298E3BF0D; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAItn90XUSnInh2dsb2JhbACPHAIBCA4qnB4 Message-ID: <45F7CAA6.5090203@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:12:54 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Matthias Grob Subject: Re: replace mode by function References: <424044.97597.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <45F7B678.6090009@tiscali.co.uk> <13153.62.2.75.66.1173863720.squirrel@webmail.perspectix.com> In-Reply-To: <13153.62.2.75.66.1173863720.squirrel@webmail.perspectix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2XkD6C.A.89G.fq89FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:12:48 +0000 (UTC) hi Bernhard, Interesting concept. ...and even FCB1010 owners can try it, as the same idea works with the EDP presets, which can be called up with Midi Prog Change. (the FCB can send PC followed by CC in one press) The reasons I don't follow this approach are 1) The EDP is left in the changed "mode" after the button press, so you now have something extra to remember. 2) It uses up a lot of buttons, so it means that you end up with more than one banks of controls on the foot controller. In both cases here, the "cognitive burden" is brought back up again :-( Generally I think the big strength of the EDP is it's user interface, the way it's possible to get so much functionality out of just a few buttons. Usually those buttons all do something useful, whatever state the edp is in. If the price for that is 2 button presses rather than 1 (often the case) to get where you want then I accept that cost, partly because it's fun for the feet, and partly because the alternative is either less flexibility, or having to use more than one bank on the midi controller (which is even more button presses, and pretty dangerous in a live situation.) I notice that the current trend, with LP-1 and Mobius (for instance) is to create the scenario where you can do a whole bunch of stuff with one "button". Could this be seen as Looper as instrument vs. Looper as effect ? In which case the "edp" approach is the "getting your hands dirty actually doing it yourself even if you have to practise the moves" way compared to the LP-1/Mobius way of "once it's set up, I just press a button and this wonderful thing happens". andy butler > The idea would be: By using a MIDI footcontroller, get rid of the EDP's > concept of modes (which are perfectly suited for the situation with the > EFC-7!) and instead offer different versions of the same function by > sending a preprogrammed sequence of commands to the EDP. > > Using the SwitchQuant example from above, you could program two NextLoop > buttons on your MIDI footcontroller: > Button A for "immediate switching" would first send the required SysEx- or > Note-commands to change the EDP SwitchQuant mode to OFF and then send the > Note-command for NextLoop. > Button B for "confirmed switching" would first send the required SysEx- or > Note-commands to change the EDP SwitchQuant mode to CnF and then send the > Note-command for NextLoop. > > So instead of adhering to the EDP's mode concept where a function behaves > according to a previously configured EDP mode (which you must keep in the > back of your head while playing: a cognitive burden), you offer two > different functions (which work always the same, ignoring the current EDP > mode). > > This would be interesting also for the insert and substitute-commands... > > Bernhard > > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 14 10:38:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01A393BF17; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:38:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=bdiPjwSKsecDUMnmtvmkqb+b0BCpcyXGjqewbCCfsBe0UuTq1hFfeVhEJ+j8c78haguuVMEHRArlFx5X1NvlWelHyX58/6EeOgsK7M2rThYnw5qSIV36MKK9jmwDAfojVQ7+zF78el16bmWik5TWU2KSe/bqvCh5baDbQZ9EXco= ; Message-ID: <20070314103849.83849.qmail@web53007.mail.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: QwfNfXUVM1mFVtXdboKdr4Ym1s2UlDkygnyLHXDmHGifHbBEYGOgMQiK9KkkAd8J7QK9.AKerlnva.NIwvhMREI9CD2vdOI5tbmvWv5EMoUoe9iRdituPifAf5wOaWnzV7b.7X28zrK3QoycFHqiuFT9HA-- Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 03:38:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Scott Subject: Re: replace mode by function To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <45F7CAA6.5090203@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1225357936-1173868729=:79762" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 10:38:52 +0000 (UTC) --0-1225357936-1173868729=:79762 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit andy butler wrote:..... (deleted) I notice that the current trend, with LP-1 and Mobius (for instance) is to create the scenario where you can do a whole bunch of stuff with one "button". Could this be seen as Looper as instrument vs. Looper as effect ? In which case the "edp" approach is the "getting your hands dirty actually doing it yourself even if you have to practise the moves" way compared to the LP-1/Mobius way of "once it's set up, I just press a button and this wonderful thing happens". andy butler Yes, not neccesarily a bad thing if it makes it easier in a live situation. The downside of this is that it may remove some of the spontaneity if these things have to be prepared prior to a performance. Stephen --------------------------------- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. --0-1225357936-1173868729=:79762 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

    andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
    ..... (deleted)

    I notice that the current trend, with LP-1 and Mobius (for instance) is to create the scenario where you can do a whole bunch of stuff with one "button".

    Could this be seen as

    Looper as instrument vs. Looper as effect ?

    In which case the "edp" approach is the "getting your hands dirty actually doing it yourself even if you have to practise the moves" way compared to the LP-1/Mobius way of "once it's set up, I just press a button and this wonderful thing happens".

    andy butler
    Yes, not neccesarily a bad thing if it makes it easier in a live situation.  The downside of this is that it may remove some of the spontaneity if these things have to be prepared prior to a performance.

    Stephen

    Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast
    with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. --0-1225357936-1173868729=:79762-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 14 11:20:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C5813BF1C; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:20:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=uHanO++10ULbCf0gPps9XywDiji1hDw9i0AbLCqZ4Oxn6NRA3psDw8fhZHro1MsnmeDD4B6Fg6uEE61koly0GlsYbL+76mXsFaTHlUXUv6SKk3IH3wdXPghDXlmt3z6B+CfYZZbCOAskbQFVFJR1SFEs7jxN3tbXHAiwavDGiac= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=bWNl9OXOVvm5EHLKSg0neyP6r2L4c9AioTJsVFdFGGPAbWE6cHcEyX1E7NHP9/7jFkm81i4zufKF4BO7OVRmvXf7K7YDdtTDMRhbqnKxzENuajvKCFd8kQAseacXzjCCNPXLbqnYdrkrGK/v+GlIc7G1oQkPKS8i/ylyVcwu1Co= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20070314103849.83849.qmail@web53007.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20070314103849.83849.qmail@web53007.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: replace mode by function Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 12:20:23 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <4wrgXD.A.7FC.6p99FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:20:26 +0000 (UTC) > andy butler wrote:..... (deleted) > > I notice that the current trend, with LP-1 and Mobius (for > instance) is to create the scenario where you can do a whole bunch > of stuff with one "button". > > Could this be seen as > > Looper as instrument vs. Looper as effect ? > > In which case the "edp" approach is the "getting your hands dirty > actually doing it yourself even if you have to practise the moves" > way compared to the LP-1/Mobius way of "once it's set up, I just > press a button and this wonderful thing happens". On 14 mar 2007, at 11.38, Stephen Scott wrote: > Yes, not neccesarily a bad thing if it makes it easier in a live > situation. The downside of this is that it may remove some of the > spontaneity if these things have to be prepared prior to a > performance. > > Stephen There is also this "Mobius trend" of setting up one button to perform different actions depending on what mode you happen to be in at the moment. This is directly inspired by the EDP, but with the scripting option in Mobius every user can set up whatever he needs. I started getting into this after reading a post on the Mobius list from someone that was used to the Roland Loopstation (I think it was?) where the record button is used first to start recording, but IF you already in playback mode (i.e. a loop is spinning) it works as an Overdub button. After Jeff introduced such "if" syntaxes (please excuse my bad programming vocabulary) I started to change my FCB pedal board to have single buttons perform different tasks depending on what mode you are in, but also depending on how long you press down the button. It's nice to have more stuff handy on less buttons, although it means less "Fun For Feet" (quoting Andy). Regarding Andy's question I personally regard the praxis, of assembling series of action to just one button press, as a way of expanding the looping device's power as an instrument. Not only as a way of "making it easier in a live situation", although that may be important for other players. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 14 13:01:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79E213BF16; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:01:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <008a01c76638$ef3e7cc0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Playing to nobody (was inaccessability of music) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 06:01:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:01:54 +0000 (UTC) Luis wrote: "Hey Gary i do remeber that gig in San Diego! although it was unattended i had a blast,specially as Rick dropped that cowbell on the floor makng a loud esplosion noise in the middle of a meditative buiding loop which woke everybody up including me! but next day it was Mexico very well attended and well Rick can tell you about the third eye girl..." Wow, that was a really fun tour, Luis. It was the first time I ever played in Mexico and the gig was great. It was were we discovered the 'Electronica Richard' shop across the street from that incredible all night Taceria, after the Nortec party that was so wonderful..............I got Montezuma's revenge but good that next day. So much so that you'll have to remind me about the third eye girl story...............I'm blankin' on that one, ese. And, ouch, did you have to remind me of dropping the cowbell during the meditative piece..........................one of my worst ever gaffs on stage............lol. good times!!!! literally one of the most fun tours of my life. Long live the Guacamole Brothers! Let's do it again sometime soon! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 14 16:50:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01E253BF14; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:50:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: replace mode by function Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:50:29 -0500 Message-ID: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C237BD6@keel.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: replace mode by function Thread-Index: AcdmKsT5MBwPKnJtSzWf2TOL9DWYsQALZWCA References: <20070314103849.83849.qmail@web53007.mail.yahoo.com> From: "Jeff Larson" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 16:50:37 +0000 (UTC) [andy] > Could this be seen as=20 >=20 > Looper as instrument vs. Looper as effect ? > > In which case the "edp" approach is the "getting your hands dirty > actually doing it yourself even if you have to practise the moves" way > compared to the LP-1/Mobius way of "once it's set up, I just press a > button and this wonderful thing happens". Well, it could also be said that you are being given the ability to build your own instrument rather than play someone else's. With enough practice, everyone could be playing the Godin Glissentar instead of those stodgy old inflexible 6 string fretted guitars. Is the fret an instrument or an effect? :-) Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 14 17:44:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D02503BF11; Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:44:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAAPR90XUSnIvk2dsb2JhbACPHAIBAQcODB6cDw Message-ID: <45F83469.4060500@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:44:09 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: replace mode by function References: <20070314103849.83849.qmail@web53007.mail.yahoo.com> <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C237BD6@keel.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <3B760999C264454D82652640BB74075C237BD6@keel.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 17:44:01 +0000 (UTC) Jeff Larson wrote: > [andy] >> Could this be seen as >> >> Looper as instrument vs. Looper as effect ? >> >> In which case the "edp" approach is the "getting your hands dirty >> actually doing it yourself even if you have to practise the moves" way >> compared to the LP-1/Mobius way of "once it's set up, I just press a >> button and this wonderful thing happens". > > Well, it could also be said that you are being given the ability to > build your own instrument rather than play someone else's. Or rather that you are being given the "opportunity" to build your own instrument ;-) ( I like the idea of State dependent scripts by the way .) > With enough practice, everyone could be playing the Godin Glissentar > instead of those stodgy old inflexible 6 string fretted guitars. > Is the fret an instrument or an effect? :-) Don't know about that, I find the frets to be a source of possibilities that aren't there on a fretless instrument just as much as the other way round. It's a good example though, people who never played a fretless instrument think it's much harder than it really is, in the same way that people seem convinced that it would be a real hardship to make a couple of extra button presses on their looper. Guess I'd better say that I'm not against the "one wonderful button" approach at all, especially in the hands of Per, Bernhard and Stephen (3 of my fav loopers.) andy > > Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 15 01:40:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 203C23BF13; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:40:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=pkdx8JmH6tks7HUyJgZpagt4pfNA9unvQz24o+5vOBUbe16ET2OsGpSrq6jX/8WwmTZuRqXjSuduClQbSDscMhQCuTJ7Zm+YryQekkpFSh/J6/rOzenOwygs9Y5WMJ6xMIajAoDnohh6UbECiR7h9mH30AWVe00DHF8dTZh6tBM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=CC2mIm3zuMNlEnZcctEc+pMPherzHI07qhOBVJsGAzqAe9ASQUpizQ4qPfvprIUNFLPt32WDB6sK0cteQZcGVasr9dRO9LH4xMLvgE5nZLna+FssbdxMdoQX2XFJtqXp498FCb2rL/c/7Lc47GO7iYDP9f685rP9r3hfaCSAOVw= Message-ID: <913728d60703141840r2a60201fr1c5b6450ee4f8bcd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 20:40:03 -0500 From: "Charlie Milkey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: WTB: Behringer FCB1010 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:40:06 +0000 (UTC) Hi Loopers! So i need a midi foot controller to control my looper, and i was wondering if anyone had a FCB1010 that they'd be willing to let go for cheap--I am thinking somewhere in the area of 100 shipped in the US? Thanks, Charlie From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 15 04:36:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D64013BF14; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:36:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Looping in OZ :: RC-## question Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 15:06:09 +1030 Message-ID: <65865F047B28324D92F716B06CAAFE0F02326843@sagemsg0020.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au> In-Reply-To: <913728d60703141840r2a60201fr1c5b6450ee4f8bcd@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Looping in OZ :: RC-## question Thread-Index: AcdmouI6AwWSk+13RfGNSU2nBa3XxgAF5I1Q From: "McDade, Rob (SLSA)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Mar 2007 04:36:10.0125 (UTC) FILETIME=[74682BD0:01C766BB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 04:36:17 +0000 (UTC) Howdy Loopers, I had my first gig in quite a few months last Friday. Not many people turned up since we had Festivals coming out of our ears here. I did some cool looping numbers using my DD20. I even did a cover of all along the watchtower - since the entire song can be played in about 4 bars. I ended with Robs Freakout which some of you might have heard on my myspace site www.myspace.com/robmcdade This track was recorded more or less by accident when I was showing my engineer what I could do with the looper - then I realised he was recording. Sure enough it ends up on the next album. Now as a live piece I stretch it out a bit. I am thinking of expanding my looping technology to one of the RC pedals The RC 50 looks too big and too complex and with all the emails about this going on its kind of put me off - too expensive as well. The RC 2 seems too small - but is almost within my budget. One of the RC-20s might be the go - esp if I can get a near new on ebay for a couple of 100. This sound like a case of the three bears. Size and budget is a major factor. The RC -2 retails for about $300-330 AUS - less on ebay. It should also fit nicely into my new custom made pedal board - which I haven't designed yet. Gotta put a new kitchen in my house first. Any suggestions? Rob McDade From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 15 07:22:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F3793BF02; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:22:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=PfdXiZp6vZfICudCKsme2Pwa9k8J3W4mSgifgjxBICLaRjV67aakPwcciYfPp1RCz4pXXvkUXLTrWMfGu53Q8NzKkWGwtcMd25jlwym4xFZ4YP5L07PoW0dNIRGYP+mes1YO092JP5u0wzGdqWLRj0K4DUiDu2JHT8U59PSNBzg=; X-YMail-OSG: jYYbHusVM1mJSp20F_nNWys9mVUIqiBzATTNfhZC83ncAyzBPjaSXzEisKgTcWxOLg-- Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 00:22:52 -0700 (PDT) From: rabbirabbifive Subject: re: replace mode by function To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <500857.16881.qm@web60315.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <8euI5.A.iTH.ORP-FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:22:55 +0000 (UTC) Having used both the edp and the looperlative I have really come to admire the EDP's interface and it's use of "long presses" e.g. to maximize use of a limited number of buttons. The Looperlative's ability to bind just about anything to a button is great, but you end up having to access a lot more buttons (via bank switching on the controller) to get the same functionality as the EDP's single button bank. It's an efficency / ergonomics issue. -rabbi >Generally I think the big strength of the EDP is it's user interface, >the way it's possible to get so much functionality out of just a few >buttons. Usually those buttons all do something useful, whatever state >the >edp is in. If the price for that is 2 button presses rather than 1 >(often the case) to get where you want then I accept that cost, partly >because it's fun for the feet, and partly because the alternative is >either >less flexibility, or having to use more than one bank on the midi >controller (which is even more button presses, and pretty dangerous in >a >live situation.) >I notice that the current trend, with LP-1 and Mobius (for instance) is >to create the scenario where you can do a whole bunch of stuff with one >"button". >Could this be seen as >Looper as instrument vs. Looper as effect ? >In which case the "edp" approach is the "getting your hands dirty >actually doing it yourself even if you have to practise the moves" way >compared to the LP-1/Mobius way of "once it's set up, I just press a >button >and this wonderful thing happens". >andy butler ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 15 10:27:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 86F9C3BF13; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:27:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 06:26:29 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to Afterglow and Galactic Travels To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <45F92D65.2070002@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:27:30 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at: http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Paul Lawler from the UK. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Future Wreck" by Arcane on NeuHarmony Records. The Vinyl Starter will be from the LP "Digital Moonscapes" by Wendy Carlos on RCA Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#mar Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and on the internet. All times are EDT / GMT-4 because the US is on Daylight Saving Time. ====================================================================== Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm ====================================================================== Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 15 12:56:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CF4E3BF0D; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: Behringer FCB1010 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 07:56:14 -0500 Message-ID: <91E3C26C927E804CA5694A2999E9820903156B@MTCSBSERVER.mtc.local> In-Reply-To: <913728d60703141840r2a60201fr1c5b6450ee4f8bcd@mail.gmail.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Behringer FCB1010 Thread-Index: AcdmouJsb0jZAFy1R+mB5kMZXeMBqQAXYxFw References: <913728d60703141840r2a60201fr1c5b6450ee4f8bcd@mail.gmail.com> From: "Matt" To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 12:56:08 +0000 (UTC) Hey Charlie, I do have one - in fact, I had just listed it on Harmony Central yesterday! So if you're still looking for one, I was going to sell mine for $100 (provided you're not in Alaska or Hawaii). It's got a few scratches, but it's in pretty good shape. I have the power cord, but a replacement MIDI cable since the first one was lost. I don't have the original box, but I can pack it well. =20 I thought I could use it with my DG-Stomp, but I don't really need the headache. I'm kind of a MIDI n00b and I have too many other plates in the air to try and figure it out. =3D) =20 PayPal is welcomed, and let me know if you want me to snap some pics. (my eBay name is Shauggy if you want to check my feedback) Matthew Shaughnessy Title Officer Meridian Title Company matt@meridiantitle.net 704.537.7444 =20 For all orders and revisions, please email to orders@meridiantitle.net or fax to 704.537.7474 -----Original Message----- From: Charlie Milkey [mailto:pilotcp@gmail.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 9:40 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: WTB: Behringer FCB1010 Hi Loopers! So i need a midi foot controller to control my looper, and i was wondering if anyone had a FCB1010 that they'd be willing to let go for cheap--I am thinking somewhere in the area of 100 shipped in the US? Thanks, Charlie From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 15 13:41:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7D1E63BF10; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:41:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [69.253.214.213] Message-ID: <006601c76707$93668530$1102a8c0@VAIO> From: "Steve Bowman" To: References: <45F92D65.2070002@soundscapes.us> Subject: Re: Listen to Afterglow and Galactic Travels Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 09:22:27 -0400 Organization: BizClarity MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:41:05 +0000 (UTC) Bill, Is Galactic Travels available in Philly? I'm near the Main Line. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Fox" To: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 7:26 AM Subject: Listen to Afterglow and Galactic Travels > AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow > ======================================================================= > Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. Tune in > for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy > dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at: > http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh > > > GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt > ======================================================================= > Tonight at 11 pm on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long > Special Focus on Paul Lawler from the UK. The Featured CD at Midnight > will be "Future Wreck" by Arcane on NeuHarmony Records. The Vinyl > Starter will be from the LP "Digital Moonscapes" by Wendy Carlos on RCA > Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: > http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#mar > > Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that > airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and > Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville > and Trexlertown, and on the internet. > > All times are EDT / GMT-4 because the US is on Daylight Saving Time. > > ====================================================================== > Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go > directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm > ====================================================================== > Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the > REAL AUDIO link or go directly to: > rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm > ====================================================================== > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 15 14:22:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4B6CD3BF11; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <171907.20894.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <171907.20894.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Darren Nelsen Subject: RC-50 Some wav files don't work Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:22:55 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-ELNK-Trace: 4173614eae77cc41d4c20f6b8d69d8882c120543388a5fd7af0e2ee041ada80eecf77f53b821590f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.164.215.208 Resent-Message-ID: <2Rq2i.A.fPE.BbV-FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:22:58 +0000 (UTC) I'm using an RC-50 with a Mac (OS X v10.4.9). I notice that sometimes when I import wav files to the RC-50, some of them don't work. They show up when I'm connected via USB, but when I disconnect and bring up the patch on the RC-50... nothing! Does anyone know what this is about? Other wav files work fine. I know I'm naming them all correctly when I transfer them. Has anyone else experienced this... have a solution? Thanks!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 15 14:50:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD12C3BF0F; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:50:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <00ab01c75bf5$ccf6a5e0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> References: <00ab01c75bf5$ccf6a5e0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7-242019253 Message-Id: <3AB8A266-E32B-43F2-9024-1877C7D6CD64@fuse.net> From: monk Subject: aarset pedal FS Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:50:31 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:50:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-7-242019253 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed i bought the precsription electronics "experience" pedal last week and i think it's not for me (and the adrenalinn does something very very similar...) so if anyone here is interested, i paid $200 plus shipping for it and i'd love to close to that out of it. it seems to work fine with the adaptor, but i haven't gotten it to work with a battery, so there may be a wire that needs to be soldered or something... this is the pedal that does the swell effect with the square wave fuzz and octave above. it the "string" sound that eivind uses a lot. email me off list if you're interested. if no takers by this afternoon, then i'll ebay it. peace r. ric hordinski www.richordinski.com www.myspace.com/richordinskimusic www.myspace.com/monasterystudio --Apple-Mail-7-242019253 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII
    i bought the = precsription electronics "experience" pedal last week and i think it's = not for me (and the adrenalinn does something very very similar...) so = if anyone here is interested, i paid $200 plus shipping for it and i'd = love to close to that out of it. it seems to work fine with the adaptor, = but i haven't gotten it to work with a battery, so there may be a wire = that needs to be soldered or something...

    this is the pedal that does = the swell effect with the square wave fuzz and octave above. it the = "string" sound that eivind uses a lot.

    email me off list if you're = interested. if no takers by this afternoon, then i'll ebay = it.

    peace


    r.




    ric = hordinski

    www.richordinski.com

    www.myspace.com/richordinskim= usic

    www.myspace.com/monasterystud= io

    =
    = --Apple-Mail-7-242019253-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 15 17:06:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8B513BF0A; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:06:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 01:06:03 +0800 From: Randolf Arriola Subject: Re: RC-50 Some wav files don't work To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <009d01c76724$37228040$6e01a8c0@embryo> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <171907.20894.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:06:13 +0000 (UTC) You;ll have to rename the files for RC50 to recognise them. I think u should consult the manual for detailed description about imporating wav files. Randolf Arriola (aka the embryo) Hp 97584919 http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/theembryo.htm http://www.myspace.com/the_embryo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Nelsen" To: Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:22 PM Subject: RC-50 Some wav files don't work > I'm using an RC-50 with a Mac (OS X v10.4.9). I notice that sometimes > when I import wav files to the RC-50, some of them don't work. They show > up when I'm connected via USB, but when I disconnect and bring up the > patch on the RC-50... nothing! Does anyone know what this is about? Other > wav files work fine. I know I'm naming them all correctly when I transfer > them. Has anyone else experienced this... have a solution? Thanks!! > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 15 17:12:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDB5D3BF0B; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <009d01c76724$37228040$6e01a8c0@embryo> References: <171907.20894.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <009d01c76724$37228040$6e01a8c0@embryo> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <36AC5CC1-7B25-4697-B209-D618F5F2B320@curiomusic.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Darren Nelsen Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: RC-50 Some wav files don't work Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 13:12:01 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-ELNK-Trace: 4173614eae77cc41d4c20f6b8d69d8882c120543388a5fd71f1460dddc267dbb968bf3f7f2de6516350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.164.215.208 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, I did that. And, they are longer than the required minimum of 1.5 sec. On Mar 15, 2007, at 1:06 PM, Randolf Arriola wrote: > You;ll have to rename the files for RC50 to recognise them. I think > u should consult the manual for detailed description about > imporating wav files. > > Randolf Arriola (aka the embryo) > Hp 97584919 > http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/theembryo.htm > http://www.myspace.com/the_embryo > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darren Nelsen" > > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 10:22 PM > Subject: RC-50 Some wav files don't work > > >> I'm using an RC-50 with a Mac (OS X v10.4.9). I notice that >> sometimes when I import wav files to the RC-50, some of them don't >> work. They show up when I'm connected via USB, but when I >> disconnect and bring up the patch on the RC-50... nothing! Does >> anyone know what this is about? Other wav files work fine. I know >> I'm naming them all correctly when I transfer them. Has anyone >> else experienced this... have a solution? Thanks!! >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 15 17:43:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96BCD3BF10; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:43:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001901c76729$6eab7940$2601a8c0@SALON> From: "Ingo Ito" To: Subject: Finally my website is online Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:42:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C76731.A9976C00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:43:26 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C76731.A9976C00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi fellow loopers, I just wanted to let you know, that I finally finished my internet = package, consisting of website (with shop), myspace and blog (you=B4ll = find all the links in the signature below). As I=B4m not only doing looped music, there are also sound samples from = my former bands and other projects on the website. But, of course, also lots of looped stuff. Mainly I do ambient type of = looped music. Some music was for art exhibitions and I just started a = new series (Zen Hanami), which was mainly composed (and done with Mobius = software) for meditation and contemplation purpose.=20 There are many sound samples to listen to, and I=B4m also offering a = regularly alternating song as a free download (MP3,192kbps) . Here=B4s the link for downloading the first one if you like to (the link = is shop generated, that=B4s why it=B4s so long, sorry =B4bout that):=20 http://www.itofarm.com/1-2-3-music-store/process.php?PHPSESSID=3D394694c0= c4f3207c6acad3f9aa8ef4d4&pname=3DShowAlbumDetailsProcess-Start&CategoryID= =3DCategoryID&AlbumID=3D2 The original recording of this track was done in 2002 as live-looping = with guitar and a Roland GR-300 guitar synth into a Paradis looper (the = machine Mathias designed before the EDP was done), then into effects = (GP-100) and a DAT recorder. It was part of an exhibition soundtrack I = did and was rather long, so I recently edited it before putting the = album of this soundtrack together. As I=B4m having more time right now to do music, I=B4m hoping to get = more material on the website soon - so if you like it, stay tuned! That=B4s it for now - thanks for your attention ;-) and keep looping! Greetings from Spain Ingo Ito Ingo Ito website: www.itofarm.com shop: = http://www.itofarm.com/1-2-3-music-store/process.php?pname=3DShopfrontPro= cess-Start myspace: http://www.myspace.com/ingoito blog: http://www.itofarm.blogspot.com/ ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C76731.A9976C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Hi fellow loopers,
     
    I just wanted to let you know, that I = finally=20 finished my internet package, consisting of website (with = shop),=20 myspace and blog (you=B4ll find all the links in the signature=20 below).
     
    As I=B4m not only doing looped music, = there are also=20 sound samples from my former bands and other projects on the=20 website.
     
    But, of course, also lots of looped = stuff. Mainly I=20 do ambient type of looped music. Some music was for art exhibitions and = I just=20 started a new series (Zen Hanami), which was mainly composed (and done = with=20 Mobius software) for meditation and contemplation purpose.
     
    There are many sound samples = to listen=20 to, and I=B4m also = offering a regularly=20 alternating song as a free download (MP3,192kbps) .
     
    Here=B4s the link for downloading the = first one=20 if you like to (the link is shop generated, that=B4s why = it=B4s so long,=20 sorry =B4bout that): 
    http://www.itofarm.com/1-2= -3-music-store/process.php?PHPSESSID=3D394694c0c4f3207c6acad3f9aa8ef4d4&a= mp;pname=3DShowAlbumDetailsProcess-Start&CategoryID=3DCategoryID&= AlbumID=3D2
     
    The original recording of this track = was done in=20 2002 as live-looping with guitar and a Roland GR-300 guitar synth into a = Paradis=20 looper (the machine Mathias designed before the EDP was done), then = into=20 effects (GP-100) and a DAT recorder. It was part of an = exhibition=20 soundtrack I did and was rather long, so I recently edited it before = putting the=20 album of this soundtrack together.
     
    As I=B4m having more time right = now to do=20 music, I=B4m hoping to get more material on the website soon - so = if you like=20 it, stay tuned!
     
    That=B4s it for now - thanks for your = attention ;-)=20 and keep looping!
     
    Greetings from Spain
    Ingo Ito
     
     
    Ingo Ito
    website: www.itofarm.com
    shop:     http://www.itofarm.com/1-2-3-music-store/process.php?pname=3DSho= pfrontProcess-Start
    myspace:     http://www.myspace.com/ingoito
    blog: http://www.itofarm.blogspot.com/
    <= /HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C76731.A9976C00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 15 17:48:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 065183BF18; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003c01c7672a$32337930$2601a8c0@SALON> From: "Ingo Ito" To: Subject: Finally my website is online Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 18:48:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0037_01C76732.8CA5F2A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: <6t7UeC.A.RLB.FcY-FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:48:53 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C76732.8CA5F2A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi fellow loopers, I just wanted to let you know, that I finally finished my internet = package, consisting of website (with shop), myspace and blog (you=B4ll = find all the links in the signature below). As I=B4m not only doing looped music, there are also sound samples from = my former bands and other projects on the website. But, of course, lots of looped stuff as well. Mainly I do ambient type = of looped music. Some music was for art exhibitions and I just started a = new series (Zen Hanami), which was mainly composed (and done with Mobius = software) for meditation and contemplation purpose.=20 There are many sound samples to listen to, and I=B4m also offering a = regularly alternating song as a free download (MP3,192kbps) . Here=B4s the link for downloading the first one if you like to (the link = is shop generated, that=B4s why it=B4s so long, sorry =B4bout that):=20 http://www.itofarm.com/1-2-3-music-store/process.php?PHPSESSID=3D394694c0= c4f3207c6acad3f9aa8ef4d4&pname=3DShowAlbumDetailsProcess-Start&CategoryID= =3DCategoryID&AlbumID=3D2 The original recording of this track was done in 2002 as live-looping = with guitar and a Roland GR-300 guitar synth into a Paradis looper (the = machine Mathias designed before the EDP was done), then into effects = (GP-100) and a DAT recorder. It was part of an exhibition soundtrack I = did and was rather long, so I recently edited it before putting the = album of this soundtrack together. As I=B4m having more time right now to do music, I=B4m hoping to get = more material on the website soon - so if you like it, stay tuned! That=B4s it for now - thanks for your attention ;-) and keep looping! Greetings from Spain Ingo Ito Ingo Ito website: www.itofarm.com shop: = http://www.itofarm.com/1-2-3-music-store/process.php?pname=3DShopfrontPro= cess-Start myspace: http://www.myspace.com/ingoito blog: http://www.itofarm.blogspot.com/ ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C76732.8CA5F2A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Hi fellow loopers,
     
    I just wanted to let you know, that I = finally=20 finished my internet package, consisting of website (with = shop),=20 myspace and blog (you=B4ll find all the links in the signature=20 below).
     
    As I=B4m not only doing looped music, = there are also=20 sound samples from my former bands and other projects on the=20 website.
     
    But, of course, lots of looped stuff as = well.=20 Mainly I do ambient type of looped music. Some music was for art = exhibitions and=20 I just started a new series (Zen Hanami), which was mainly composed (and = done=20 with Mobius software) for meditation and contemplation purpose. =
     
    There are many sound samples = to listen=20 to, and I=B4m also = offering a regularly=20 alternating song as a free download (MP3,192kbps) .
     
    Here=B4s the link for downloading the = first one=20 if you like to (the link is shop generated, that=B4s why = it=B4s so long,=20 sorry =B4bout that): 
    http://www.itofarm.com/1-2= -3-music-store/process.php?PHPSESSID=3D394694c0c4f3207c6acad3f9aa8ef4d4&a= mp;pname=3DShowAlbumDetailsProcess-Start&CategoryID=3DCategoryID&= AlbumID=3D2
     
    The original recording of this track = was done in=20 2002 as live-looping with guitar and a Roland GR-300 guitar synth into a = Paradis=20 looper (the machine Mathias designed before the EDP was done), then = into=20 effects (GP-100) and a DAT recorder. It was part of an = exhibition=20 soundtrack I did and was rather long, so I recently edited it before = putting the=20 album of this soundtrack together.
     
    As I=B4m having more time right = now to do=20 music, I=B4m hoping to get more material on the website soon - so = if you like=20 it, stay tuned!
     
    That=B4s it for now - thanks for your = attention ;-)=20 and keep looping!
     
    Greetings from Spain
    Ingo Ito
     
     
    Ingo Ito
    website: www.itofarm.com
    shop:     http://www.itofarm.com/1-2-3-music-store/process.php?pname=3DSho= pfrontProcess-Start
    myspace: http://www.myspace.com/ingoito
    blog: http://www.itofarm.blogspot.com/
    <= /HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C76732.8CA5F2A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 15 17:49:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 363F43BF11; Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:49:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Q1fwX6zH1/uYiTEJ6JuHP26WEwwQZMCCB4g9znMP7nc22WRvXL7AF1lVXIQGq1ZBZuPXjeeubi9Tf6AbXzJfeJosmKjLwUdcGnvA+fViCfzh7xfxMbObQwRews/5b61wC9eNklCOy1uC3eIx/GDUB1ZkHMCHoFoaHgbs8+/Lpm8=; X-YMail-OSG: DaeWZIIVM1lje7adHNplJrdQ.WrdzP3ub46e4O.mikU8.MAOJs2VhrXhGltuP3stBabJSz1VLpQUh2VEDCUaGf5FA_uPlyfr2R1LYbkLrR96mXR_mfGezuLsQkskfHkaiK087q7mXrSNaa9VwKqCvQ8HLm2kB1F0HMnuD9AfYEdI Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:49:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Looping in OZ :: RC-## question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <65865F047B28324D92F716B06CAAFE0F02326843@sagemsg0020.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <116658.8569.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2007 17:49:59 +0000 (UTC) Hey Rob! I have just purchased the RC-2 which is being tested in my compact pedalboard which has some basic efx, plus a DD-20 as well.I am not sure if i want to keep the RC-2...there are 2 things that really piss me off,one is not being able to loop without having your loop automatically quantizised and having to hear the loop while erasing it after u have stopped it,grrrr! But good tool to rehearse those dusty blues,teach and plently of cheesy drum loops! Luis > Size and budget is a major factor. The RC -2 retails > for about $300-330 > AUS - less on ebay. It should also fit nicely into > my new custom made > pedal board - which I haven't designed yet. Gotta > put a new kitchen in > my house first. > > Any suggestions? > > Rob McDade > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 16 19:31:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3FE933BEFC; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:31:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <305688106.1174073478079.JavaMail.root@fepweb06> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 11:31:18 -0800 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Finally my website is online Cc: Ingo Ito MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 66.169.252.252 by mail.charter.net; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:31:17 -0400 X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 19:31:23 +0000 (UTC) Ingo, I looked up your website and checked out your free download track "Sunset o= n Sea."=20 Liking it very much -- reminds me a bit of Andy Smmers' "Mysterious Barrica= des" CD. I've repeated it several times so far this morning. -- tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?p= layListId=3D6378076=20 http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ---- Ingo Ito wrote:=20 > Hi fellow loopers, >=20 > I just wanted to let you know, that I finally finished my internet packag= e, consisting of website (with shop), myspace and blog (you=C2=B4ll find al= l the links in the signature below). >=20 > As I=C2=B4m not only doing looped music, there are also sound samples fro= m my former bands and other projects on the website. >=20 > But, of course, lots of looped stuff as well. Mainly I do ambient type of= looped music. Some music was for art exhibitions and I just started a new = series (Zen Hanami), which was mainly composed (and done with Mobius softwa= re) for meditation and contemplation purpose.=20 >=20 > There are many sound samples to listen to, and I=C2=B4m also offering a r= egularly alternating song as a free download (MP3,192kbps) . >=20 > Here=C2=B4s the link for downloading the first one if you like to (the li= nk is shop generated, that=C2=B4s why it=C2=B4s so long, sorry =C2=B4bout t= hat):=20 > http://www.itofarm.com/1-2-3-music-store/process.php?PHPSESSID=3D394694c0= c4f3207c6acad3f9aa8ef4d4&pname=3DShowAlbumDetailsProcess-Start&CategoryID= =3DCategoryID&AlbumID=3D2 >=20 > The original recording of this track was done in 2002 as live-looping wit= h guitar and a Roland GR-300 guitar synth into a Paradis looper (the machin= e Mathias designed before the EDP was done), then into effects (GP-100) and= a DAT recorder. It was part of an exhibition soundtrack I did and was rath= er long, so I recently edited it before putting the album of this soundtrac= k together. >=20 > As I=C2=B4m having more time right now to do music, I=C2=B4m hoping to ge= t more material on the website soon - so if you like it, stay tuned! >=20 > That=C2=B4s it for now - thanks for your attention ;-) and keep looping! >=20 > Greetings from Spain > Ingo Ito >=20 >=20 > Ingo Ito > website: www.itofarm.com > shop: http://www.itofarm.com/1-2-3-music-store/process.php?pname=3DShopfr= ontProcess-Start > myspace: http://www.myspace.com/ingoito > blog: http://www.itofarm.blogspot.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 16 20:31:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E0273BEE7; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:31:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=hPmE09Ctp6tRWb0mARKcw3vGFhnqq3IeCjLfPLhIefGHLgmU+BxN0aCmukPhjF3BIQQjZUfoHprmKA2Xt3p0gKv2g2CeR9/QEuzO5Y2z6MgEM3gfzDEr803S7m9i9w10CiCrcRSQk1ZqO3qVP6wQwtfCvAlTLB8oc5al59Yl7xk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=rPo68wSTo5YgdsWO9C/nBcoRdbwSaEsEvcx8wq6DFM50KMjnVu/LOs4YyuNnKt9gbstGwyJSczjP+VcjABE+A+h4Qll5YNHbhrt4+fXJb+6n4co7PC1wCPkVKXPWey0dTeBqVHKX2fbYOgd1hdZsnnviDlv99Sk9QjwE3kAcu1U= In-Reply-To: <001901c76729$6eab7940$2601a8c0@SALON> References: <001901c76729$6eab7940$2601a8c0@SALON> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5B715A54-A0FF-4403-A446-DD27BDC56540@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Open-Source 3D Webcam MIDI Controller Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:31:08 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:31:13 +0000 (UTC) http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/15/open-source-3d-webcam-midi- controller/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 16 20:57:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 69A663BF02; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:57:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <007701c7680d$b7294ff0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: 2nd CALL for PERFORMERS: Y2K7 application deadline is April 15th Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 13:57:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 20:57:29 +0000 (UTC) Hi everybody, This call to artists is going out much earlier than in previous years for the Y2K7 Festival. Please read this thoroughly if you want to perform again this year (or if you want to perform for the first time). Also, please pass the word to people you know who aren't on the list. There will, in all likelihood, be far fewer performance slots this than there have been in past years so it is imperative to do this in a timely manner if you wish you play: thanks, rick *************** This is the official call for submissions of artists who wish to perform at the Y2K7 International Live Looping Festival to be held October 19-21st, 2007 in Santa Cruz, California. Applications for the festival will be closed April 15th except for foreign artists who's applications I'll take on a case by case basis. and I will publish the Performance Roster by May 15th so that out of town artists have time to make plans for transportation. At that time, I'll include an alternates list. Frequently we will have cancellations as late as the actual weekend of the gig so you should let me know how late you can decide to play the festival if such an cancellation occurs. If you are interested in performing this year please read the following requirements for submission to perform. yours, most sincerely and respectfully, Rick Walker ********************************************************** APPLICATION to PERFORM at the Y2K7 Live Looping FESTIVAL Dearest applicants for performance at the Y2K7 International Live Looping Festival. Thank you so much for applying to perform on October 19-21, 2007 in Santa Cruz. Due to the very large number of applicants for this festival and limited performance spaces, we have decided that all performers will go through the same process of applying for performance from now on. The festival took over 4 1/2 months of my life last year and I realized that in order to keep having the energyto making it such a wonderful festival that I was going to have to make the whole process more professional, streamlined and , hence, more standardized. I'm a casual guy so this makes me a little sad but we have, thankfully, gotten big enough that it's time to start acting like a world class music festival. IF you'd like to perform please send the following information to me via the snail mail. I regret that, though convenient for the artists, I do not have time to go to websites or myspace pages to read or listen to mp3s. There are just too many performers vying for spots on the festival and I want to have some kind of a personal and artistic life during the ensuing months. Please send the following submission package to Y2K7 SUBMISSION 412 Darwin Street Santa Cruz, California, USA 95062-2629 It needs to contain: 1) CD or CDR of representative material. Remember that this is a live looping festival so artist who rely primarily on triggering premade loops in programs like Ableton's Live , Acid or Garage Band should not apply. Please no MP3s.........I just don't have the ability to play them and most of my perusal occurs in my car driving to gigs. 2) A second and separate CD with .JPEG digital photographs (suitable for printing in a newspaper or magazine) of your act 3) include a very short and pithy musical biography and description of your life act on the same CD. Please make the music CD and the photo/bio CD be separate. 4) reproduce the following rules of performance and please sign it just so I know that everyone is on the same page about making the whole thing work. It' s a logistical nightmare and only works if everyone works for the whole team of artists. reproduce and sign the following: ******************************************************************************************************************************* Y2K7 RULES of PERFORMANCE: Performances all occur on two adjacent stages. 50 artists perform continuously for a 24 hour period over two days. There are no breaks between acts so the music is continuous. Because the stages adjoin in view of the audience members, set up and break down can be very distracting to the audience so it is imperative that loading Artists be as sensitive as possible not to draw focus from who is performing. Artists have 20 minute maximum completely silent load in (Line checks can be accomplished with supplied headphones, also silently) Artists have 30 minute maximum performance Artists have 10 minutes maximum complete silent evacuation of the stage Importantly: 1) Artists who take longer to load have time cut off of their performances 2) Artist who perform to long or take too long to evacuate the stage at the end of their sets result in the next act having time shaved off their set. ARTIST COMPENSATION: We run in the red every year (out of my pocket always) and there is no compensation for the artists, unfortunately, consequently. Over time, I am researching new ways to get granting and to get subsidies from music companies. These invariably will be offered, first, to the artists who travel from out of the country to come perform. GUEST and COMP LISTS: We charge at the door and don't allow guests at all because the venue is usually too small and we wouldn't be able to do the festival at all if we let everyone in for free that the artists bring. I have read the above rules of performance and agree to them. signed ____________________________________ _______________________________________________________________________________________ *********************************************************************************************************************************** It pains me horribly to state those last rules but they are the only way that we can continue doing the festival. Having these draconian rules is necessary to pull off the unbelievable feat of having so many artists play without running over time (which is illegal in the City and makes us liable to be cancelled) I try as hard a possible to make this thing bigger and better every year but we are a very new art form and the whole thing is a gigantic (and wonderfully creative and fun) labor of love on everyone's part. Thank you very much for showing interest in this wonderful festival. We'll be blessed to have you come play. with the deepest respect for everyone's artistry who applies for this festival Rick Walker founder Y2K International Live Looping Festivals -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.16/582 - Release Date: 12/11/2006 4:32 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 16 22:09:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 146C03BEFE; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1029516980.1174082964897.JavaMail.root@fepweb03> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:09:24 -0800 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 2nd CALL for PERFORMERS: Y2K7 application deadline is April 15th Cc: RICK WALKER MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 66.169.252.252 by mail.charter.net; Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:09:24 -0400 X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 22:09:26 +0000 (UTC) Yo Mr. Rick, Just a reminder (you probably don't even need one) but here's one anyway. I think Y2K7 will do better without me this year. I may come as an attendee (I hope) . . . but not as a performer this year. I'm taking a break from performing after BEMF2 altogether in April and want= to reaccess my situation. As always, I would be most happy to offer any graphic assistance (and moral= e support) you might desire. But I gotta pack it in for a while. Cheers, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 17 00:49:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53D063BEFE; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:49:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <102501c7682e$1bb7c080$69c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: "RICK WALKER" References: <1029516980.1174082964897.JavaMail.root@fepweb03> Subject: Re: 2nd CALL for PERFORMERS: Y2K7 application deadline is April 15th Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 18:49:22 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 00:49:31 +0000 (UTC) We all hope Ted is taking a break so that he can built is new computer system with MAX/MS, and stay up 'til odd hours in the morning with Kaiser and I, working on patches and bizarre effect combinations. :) I hope you reconsider, Ted, but if not I understand. See yah in April at the Vac! K- ----- Original Message ----- From: "tEd ® kiLLiAn" To: Cc: "RICK WALKER" Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 4:09 PM Subject: Re: 2nd CALL for PERFORMERS: Y2K7 application deadline is April 15th Yo Mr. Rick, Just a reminder (you probably don't even need one) but here's one anyway. I think Y2K7 will do better without me this year. I may come as an attendee (I hope) . . . but not as a performer this year. I'm taking a break from performing after BEMF2 altogether in April and want to reaccess my situation. As always, I would be most happy to offer any graphic assistance (and morale support) you might desire. But I gotta pack it in for a while. Cheers, tEd ® kiLLiAn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 17 05:22:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4391D3BEE8; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:22:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <102501c7682e$1bb7c080$69c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <1029516980.1174082964897.JavaMail.root@fepweb03> <102501c7682e$1bb7c080$69c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <28cb2bd8d31afed52fa67d518137b593@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: 2nd CALL for PERFORMERS: Y2K7 application deadline is April 15th Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 21:22:09 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:22:14 +0000 (UTC) Doggone it! I didn't mean that to go to the list. Somehow it did. Now 'm a sorry, sorry, sad excuse for an idiot. Yes, a lappy is part of the ultimate plan. I hope to reemerge (as a performer) eventually. I'm really looking forward to April in Boise. But after that I gotta do some other things with my life for a while. Best regards, Ted Killian On Mar 16, 2007, at 4:49 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > We all hope Ted is taking a break so that he can built is new computer > system with MAX/MS, and stay up 'til odd hours in the morning with > Kaiser and I, working on patches and bizarre effect combinations. :) > > I hope you reconsider, Ted, but if not I understand. See yah in April > at the Vac! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 17 06:30:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 72C003BEDE; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 06:30:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: sDHVywYVM1lXH6G.de3Z_abhq4WNUo7rs4imo3Ldj7clgrV7GiRttMjwayBhXnGCZX5qz9KEqvNlVttuFU6LfkacPtzrZGLyGk0UGtPeuYRhmSmIfJqrdis93sjo.JADBX4_iQnWx5nc24htV2bkKPCt Message-ID: <000501c7685d$a164e620$4201a8c0@MichaelPlishka> From: "Michael Plishka" To: References: <1029516980.1174082964897.JavaMail.root@fepweb03> <102501c7682e$1bb7c080$69c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <28cb2bd8d31afed52fa67d518137b593@charter.net> Subject: Happy St Patty's day! Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 01:29:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68988 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 06:30:25 +0000 (UTC) In honor of the Feast I have uploaded a song entitled "Patrick" on my myspace page. Looping and spoken word and a little chant... www.myspace.com/michaelplishka ~peace~ Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 17 08:30:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE35A3BED9; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 08:30:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=JdCR8WEDX9GMXUkbRGZXD0QpwpJ8D6DunYQvTJvI8fupEdVwu//ITz9wheeseq4xahFU8uQP+1yOiZZEwYiNQsX9Vjv97lNDiIF0L7kXvbTkGTKTsUxTsT24ztZp1eECB5yTQ7Sj6y7CV+xJoolfIAXWXh+uwX+r92+X0ePjUHI=; X-YMail-OSG: WCmj2HgVM1lJlx8lNXT9MnIU9RhlR2OU_yhFYC5lv6D.NM1MCUv23SLEIYyRZQ5TtILx_LmLdzz3_EvqiRz5tEchrkOn6xSiwsixr4uoeRW1rzwx9Ywr29DFc_qgUy7M Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 01:30:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: EDP more loops question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <45F7B678.6090009@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <509409.15997.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 08:30:53 +0000 (UTC) Andy brother u are a genious thanx a million mate ill try it and get back to you with my results! cheers Luis --- andy butler wrote: > hi Luis > > Yes, you can do that. > > "Quantise" does not have any bearing on how you > switch from one loop to another. > > "SwitchQuant" controls how the edp changes from one > loop to another, whether you make the change with > NextLoop or access the loops by MIDI. > > SwitchQuant has a lot of options, depending on how > you want to work. > I use SwitchQuant=CnF, (Confirm) , so that I can hit > Nextloop to select the destination loop and then the > change happens immediately on the next press of > Record/Overdub/Multiply/Insert/Undo. This way I can > chose what happens when going to the next loop, and > have it happen exactly when I want.( the downside is > that it's always 2 presses to make it happen, so it > needs some practise to do quick changes) > > > andy butler > > L.A. Angulo wrote: > > Hey gang! > > In doing more loops is there a way to trigger lets > say > > loop 3 when being in quantize mode(set to loop or > > cycle)after muting loop one,without having to wait > for > > the next cycle? > > thanx! > > Luis > > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Bored stiff? Loosen up... > > Download and play hundreds of games for free on > Yahoo! Games. > > http://games.yahoo.com/games/front > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 17 08:39:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5CE143BEEA; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 08:39:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=i8f/fZhD0iawzWgJWgyflXd7+OofXt0/4nuXZ46fYEYW2vQsOtnHms0nn0OCK34PUPJQoSP44iNUFcauYKSKn7gApDdZ90qJtVBxnRMeTd4T+D3XxVn3wkVrXXkpL/fOOp93vzP3jCkR80jBNv390pGichX+LAz3VM0z32u2J8c= ; Message-ID: <20070317083931.98250.qmail@web38609.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: n5QAxw0VM1lNxZkqZmkQLeSjhBGtYfJKvROQYMoG.XQf2A.PH.9a91gywlsp5M9UBXU2703aKJaTZnbhHfuQLqnbMg5_JbXk6EPSsCyFyt9vUBLM66o4PCl4V8q.atAB Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 01:39:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Playing to nobody (was inaccessability of music) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <008a01c76638$ef3e7cc0$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <4nqRTD.A.SMC.Gl6-FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 08:39:34 +0000 (UTC) bro i promise you when you come again we are going to go to the same place! I couldnt stop laughing for days after the cowbell even man that was so hilarious! the after party and the girl who come up to you,bought one of your CDs and said you had moved her third eye in her forehead with your loop singing or something to that effect,remember? Cheers Luis --- RICK WALKER wrote: > Luis wrote: > "Hey Gary i do remeber that gig in San Diego! > although > it was unattended i had a blast,specially as Rick > dropped that cowbell on the floor makng a loud > esplosion noise in the middle of a meditative > buiding > loop which woke everybody up including me! > but next day it was Mexico very well attended and > well > Rick can tell you about the third eye girl..." > > > Wow, that was a really fun tour, Luis. > It was the first time I ever played in Mexico and > the gig was great. > It was were we discovered the 'Electronica Richard' > shop across the > street from that incredible all night Taceria, after > the Nortec party that > was so > wonderful..............I got Montezuma's revenge but > good that next day. > So much so that you'll have to > remind me about the third eye girl > story...............I'm blankin' on that > one, ese. > > And, ouch, did you have to remind me of dropping > the cowbell during the > meditative piece..........................one of my > worst ever gaffs on > stage............lol. > > good times!!!! literally one of the most fun > tours of my life. > Long live the Guacamole Brothers! > > Let's do it again sometime soon! > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a PS3 game guru. 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Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 17 13:52:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 16DCF3BED9; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <109001c7689b$733214b0$69c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: "Jeff Kaiser" Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, "RICK WALKER" References: <1029516980.1174082964897.JavaMail.root@fepweb03> <102501c7682e$1bb7c080$69c9f40f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Subject: The Wonders of MAX/MSP Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 07:52:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Oh, don't get me started! (well, here the coffee this morning kicks in). I am definitely on the way to MAX addiction. As I mentioned on the MAX user group, I had taken a lengthy break from MAX. There were just too many things on my pallet of effects and systems. Originally, I used MAX to create my own VST host, to replace Chainer, EnergyXT, Bidule, etc....that worked great, and I even created or borrowed a few of my own MAX patches (delay, pitch, ringmod, my super Brian May chord builder pitch shifter), etc. But maintaining my MAX skills, plus maintaining my memory and application of over 60 VST effects, not including Reaktor (running as VST with it's many ensembles) eventually got to me. I just got fed up, as the over-abundance of effects were distracting me from music making. So I just said that's it...I'm simplifying. I'm no longer using any VST hosts, and my goal is to run a pure MAX-based system (no VST). In less than a week, I replaced all my foundational VSTs (reverb, delay, chorus), with MAX patches (reverb is the most challenging), plus built several more MAX patches, including that emulates my favorite Blackbird (Reaktor ensemble) effect, and some other bizarre tone-mangling patches. I already have a MAX patch that emulates one of my favorite Boss VF1 pathes. Moreover, I reduced over 60 VST effects on my screen to only 15 or so MAX patches that run cleanly only as MAX patches (not VST). And now I can focus on building really good and unique MAX patches, one addition at time, all built to my own specifications Now the only two VSTs I have running in MAX are Mobius and Reaktor. If Kaiser has anything to do with it, he'll have me converted to his Kaiser Looper patch. Maybe that conversion will occur this weekend, who knows. I'm keeping Reaktor because it is still a very powerful program with amazing effects and library support from users. Eventually, that will be the only VST in my system. And of course, I need to be able to conroll all this stuff with my Behringer. Oh, and you guitar synth lovers, my next project is to create a MAX patch that analyzes my guitar audio input, determines frequency, and then sends to MAX synthesizer objects, like saw, etc. My dream of creating a MAX version of the famous Roland GR300 (think old Abercrombie and Metheny stuff) will eventually come to fruition! So, Ted, if you decide to take the leap, the journey will have many pathes and will seem tedious at times, but the payoff is amazing if you stick with it. The hardest part is giving up the addiction of all your prior effects, like what I did with my VSTs. You just have to let them go....clense yourself. Start from scratch. The catharsis really creates a whole new sense of focus. But the letting go is the hard part. I believe some folks just won't be able to make this sort of transition...it's a pesonality thing, neither good nor bad. For me, I like to flush things out once in a while. It's useful for the psyche and sense of creativity. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Kaiser" To: "Krispen Hartung" Cc: ; "RICK WALKER" Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 12:43 AM Subject: Re: 2nd CALL for PERFORMERS: Y2K7 application deadline is April 15th hell YEAH! c'mon Ted....krispen and I are having a blast here...... Jeff Kaiser http://www.JeffKaiser.com pfMENTUM.com • AngryVegan.com On Mar 16, 2007, at 5:49 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > We all hope Ted is taking a break so that he can built is new computer > system with MAX/MS, and stay up 'til odd hours in the morning with Kaiser > and I, working on patches and bizarre effect combinations. :) > > I hope you reconsider, Ted, but if not I understand. See yah in April at > the Vac! > > K- > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "tEd ® kiLLiAn" > > To: > Cc: "RICK WALKER" > Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 4:09 PM > Subject: Re: 2nd CALL for PERFORMERS: Y2K7 application deadline is April > 15th > > > Yo Mr. Rick, > > Just a reminder (you probably don't even need one) but here's one anyway. > > I think Y2K7 will do better without me this year. > > I may come as an attendee (I hope) . . . but not as a performer this year. > > I'm taking a break from performing after BEMF2 altogether in April and > want to reaccess my situation. > > As always, I would be most happy to offer any graphic assistance (and > morale support) you might desire. > > But I gotta pack it in for a while. > > Cheers, > > tEd ® kiLLiAn > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 17 14:29:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 011FF3BEDE; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:29:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: OT news for Mac users Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:29:00 +0100 Message-ID: <002901c768a0$9bc4f1e0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcdooJqMiwIETPEQTzmVRKCUSDN1Uw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 14:29:37 +0000 (UTC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuEDwcfJPSk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 17 16:46:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDD943BED5; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: fabio anile Reply-To: fabio anile To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: 2nd CALL for PERFORMERS: Y2K7 application deadline is April 1 5th Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 17:45:31 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: EPOC e-mail Versione 2.10 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:46:07 +0000 (UTC) Ted..., i'm really sad, this year i would love to see you playing live at the y2k7 and maybe jamming with you... Sad, sad story. best fabio From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 17 17:43:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3605C3BED5; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 17:43:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=nxsJrEUxY1mbWXc2t3RUeF3fdXTnpfAZaXSXIa4U9zLfuzlZEnJWSFBDH7hFrk9K7BpkCgv9IdaxvDje2fA/FE9xLk+sczTVFyimuO5Uge7h5Hm/VpI6dHDO/ec88UDLhJG4rhykRhAYz7Rzo7/pdztOi+fxBGaaTYAi8op23gg=; X-YMail-OSG: SEvltdEVM1mO4wovf1X3dS2rozmnoRiUh4cm.5w0SWnfh3Hj8MeVN7AKWO3x5BIxIz2UqVM_gqPqexH3ACyZyplGLb1Z_3vfpM6WXDCL53Jlew-- Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 10:43:27 -0700 (PDT) From: "flatrice@yahoo.com" Subject: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-29123975-1174153407=:95766" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <925237.95766.qm@web56906.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 17:43:33 +0000 (UTC) --0-29123975-1174153407=:95766 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit unsubscribe --0-29123975-1174153407=:95766 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit unsubscribe --0-29123975-1174153407=:95766-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 17 17:48:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E80813BEDF; Sat, 17 Mar 2007 17:48:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45FC29CE.9010100@biink.com> Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 13:47:58 -0400 From: David Beardsley Reply-To: db@biink.com Organization: Biink & SSI User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: unsubscribe References: <925237.95766.qm@web56906.mail.re3.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <925237.95766.qm@web56906.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 17:48:03 +0000 (UTC) flatrice@yahoo.com wrote: > unsubscribe it's been a while. -- * David Beardsley * microtonal guitar * http://biink.com/db From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 18 01:57:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 82AA63BEDD; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 01:57:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 21:56:26 -0500 From: Douglas Baldwin Subject: The Irregular Seasonal Howl To: <"Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@arsenic.violacea.com> Message-id: <00b701c76909$329fbce0$9715be18@oemcomputer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 Content-type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 01:57:15 +0000 (UTC) The Irregular Seasonal Howl or An update from Douglas Baldwin, coyote-in-residence You are receiving this e-mail newsletter because you either signed up for it at my web site, or you told me you wanted to stay in touch, or I decided to send it to you. If this kind of correspondence is annoying to you, just hit the reply button, put “unsubscribe” in the Subject box, and send it back. ONE YEAR GONE… It was just a year ago that I began my web presence. I’m sure you’ve all been to www.thecoyote.org many, many times by now, but just in case you haven’t, well, go ahead and click on that link. And even if you HAVE been there…. …have you seen my “Quotations” page? I’ve begun to collect quotes and aphorisms about music and musicians, and already it’s a pretty hefty collection. Click on www.thecoyote.org/quotations.cfm and have yourself a chuckle, a nod of agreement, a murmur of disagreement, perhaps a touch of insight into the musical process. (Many thanks to Scott Kistenberger, who originally sent many of these my way.) Got a good quote? Care to correct or comment on what I’ve posted? Drop me a line! Have you listened to “Postmortal Postman?” It’s my first MP3 file, and it’s absolutely freeeeee! You’ll find it at www.thecoyote.org/listen.cfm . Of course, if I hear it used as background on the next episode of “Hanna Montana,” both Jeff Wheeler and I will have to hunt you down and break your fingers. Actually, this might be a good way to lure Mr. Wheeler down from his hideaway in the foothills of New Hampshire. Hmmmm….. TOTALLY UNRELATED TO MY WEB SITE, I would like to announce that THE GODDESS OF GIGDOM HATH GIVEN ME GREAT SUCCOR! Many of you from the Long Island area have heard me moaning and groaning about getting back out and performing in public. With great thanks to Skip Krevens, who actually made the connection for me, I am now playing with White Hot and Blue. Amazingly, these brothers-I-never-knew-I-had were exactly what I was looking for: ? Seasoned professional players… ? …playing music I love and know well… ? …for just a couple of weekends each month… ? …for reasonably good money. You can visit the band’s web site at www.whitehotandblue.com . It will be continuously updated, including my just-added photo and bio, and listings of upcoming dates, so add it to your favorites. NOW, BACK TO MY WEB SITE. Do you have a copy of Play Guitar By Ear yet? What???? You DON’T????? What are you waiting for? Go to www.thecoyote.org/giftshop.cfm right now and order copies for yourself (at least two – you’ll wear out the pages in no time, and you’ll want extra copies of the CD that comes with it as well; you know how those CDs can wear out with repeated listening. Then order a couple-half-dozen copies for anyone you’ve ever known who has ever tried to play the guitar. Tell them to follow the instructions in the book, and they’ll be replacing me in the White Hot and Blue lineup in no time. THIS JUST IN FROM THE WEATHER TEAM: Friends in Europe, you’re getting the storm that just walloped New York on Friday the 16th/Saturday the 17th. We were hit with freezing rain, sleet, and snow that froze like a shell on everything. I cancelled all my Friday students and huddled with the family until Saturday. Then, while walking Trevor the Lassie-Impersonator on Saturday morning, I slipped and fell flat on my back. Twice. It took a good half-hour to dig my car out of its icy cocoon, and I drove all of two blocks to the Handy Pantry on Echo Avenue before turning around and going back home for another couple hours. When I finally got to the studio at about 10:00 a.m., I found that all my students had cancelled, due to the weather. It was the first time ever that they did NOT paint a green stripe down 5th Avenue for the St. Patrick’s day parade. Looking forward to more regular editions of The Irregular Seasonal Howl, I remain your trusted Coyote in residence, Douglas Baldwin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 18 07:38:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CA623BECC; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 07:38:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.3.162] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <200703172000.l2HK04Hb065574@lists.sv.meer.net> From: "samba -" Subject: Live 4 way co-located music Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 00:38:50 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2007 07:38:51.0551 (UTC) FILETIME=[792A4AF0:01C76930] To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 07:38:54 +0000 (UTC) 1. Live 4-Way Co-Located Telematic Music (Cynthia Payne) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2007 01:57:46 -0700 From: "Cynthia Payne" Subject: [Emusic] Live 4-Way Co-Located Telematic Music To: emusic@lists.meer.net Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Please excuse duplicate notices: 100 Meeting Places A Live Telepresence Four Way Co-Located Music Improvisation Concert THIS Thursday, March 22, 2007 @ 5:00 p.m. Engineering 2 Room 506, 510 (studio) Can't Attend? Tune in to a LIVE STREAM http://www.arts.rpi.edu/streaming/arts/iear_live.asx In partial completion of Cynthia Payne's DANM MFA Thesis, a campus-based location for an online concert between Pauline Oliveros (RPI-New York), Chris Chafe (Stanford, CA), Sarah Weaver (Loyola-Chicago), and Cynthia Payne (UCSC) in a local ensemble featuring Richard Caceres, leaf tine, and Cynthia Payne, with video art by Jamie Burkart, factotum, and Phoenix Toews http://danm.ucsc.edu/web/events you are codially invited to a live telematic music concert: hear musicians from four universities: @ rpi-new york: pauline oliveros, jonas braasch, and the tintintabulate ensemble; @ stanford: chris chafe, juan-pablo caceres, justin yang; @ loyola-chicago: sarah weaver conducts a soundpainting @ ucsc E2.510 ensemble: cynthia payne, leaf tine, richard caceres; video: jamie burkart, factotum, and phoenix toews when: thursday, march 22nd @ 5:00 p.m. where: engineering2, 5th floor, room 506 and 510 (studio - signup for a seat) _________________________________________________________________ 5.5%* 30 year fixed mortgage rate. Good credit refinance. Up to 5 free quotes - *Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h2a5d&s=4056&p=5117&disc=y&vers=910 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 18 10:54:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F3053BED0; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:54:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Live 4 way co-located music Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:54:28 +0100 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000f01c7694b$cd3d2a70$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Thread-Index: AcdpMHs45PrND3bNTya0SR9rHVlF4wAGxnGw In-Reply-To: X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OId23n8BdA== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 10:54:16 +0000 (UTC) could you tell us about the technology used there? Ninjam? TubePlug? Own design? Rainer > > 1. Live 4-Way Co-Located Telematic Music (Cynthia Payne) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 18 11:22:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 330383BED2; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:22:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=qek9uUIF5f9AaNn1aMK9tQIBsDLHJO8c605U4ayMKgBSKN9vl1ozQb8YcBaSLQ2OqdJtFQJHk6f+ISIL1BkqbWjrl7WLWZqxGnVE2hJURLO6FCkbdrTtEx19a4hw4M6ZDOzegLx2LZH/vKBkbU/blKqdLVE42zmYJZ9gqshPg/k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=V99zV/SWyTXmJGOHVRNIm/vIlCBmmRR5uQBPuoi+nEYfQdSUNLCIFx0st6r7/K476u/MxWulAPAiM/2rFMsIz5k0Zc5pYbtNrupeaB7fs+BOsMmaqscZ49+b0LtN/EAD6fKIMjZ/gp/8xrJwcSB5mSlvI3sKFoh4ERfHLI8ivog= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <002901c768a0$9bc4f1e0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <002901c768a0$9bc4f1e0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <669A2DDB-B77E-4E2E-AC1B-E93C81AF24D8@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: "self resonating" fretleess electric guitar -- ideas? Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:22:13 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/68999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:22:20 +0000 (UTC) Hi, Thought I should ask if someone on the list has experience and tips on this project. I'm thinking about rebuilding one of my guitars (probably a telecaster) into a fretless guitar. I'v been playing fretless guitar quite a lot in the past, but I was never happy with the short sustain. Today I'm playing my Stratocaster with "tone extention" provided by a tiny speaker cone gaffa taped to the neck's head, driven from an amplified signal tap taken from the guitar's pickups (i.e. a "poor mans Sustainiac"). So I just had the brilliant idea to combine these two somewhat dissatisfying experimental trips into something that actually works as a playable instrument to rely on. Here are the details as I'm envisioning the process so far. Please comment if you know better methods: - Taking off the frets. (done that before, no problem) - Covering the fretboard with some super strong gloss (what's the best? The stuff you do floors with? Boats?) - Tapping the signal (how to do this inside the guitar's electronics? Can I simply solder a "Y" connection somewhere? At the moment I'm tapping it from a Pod pedal with two outputs) - Mounting the little speaker somewhere inside the instrument's body (eventually also the battery driven amp; a disassembled mini Marshall practice amp) - Maybe I should as well think about a "power plug-in" jack on this guitar? (batteries tend to let you down) My idea is to use flat strings for a murky sound and minimal string noise during the glissandi. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 18 11:33:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA5D33BED5; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:33:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <669A2DDB-B77E-4E2E-AC1B-E93C81AF24D8@gmail.com> References: <002901c768a0$9bc4f1e0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <669A2DDB-B77E-4E2E-AC1B-E93C81AF24D8@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2FBD6F47-5210-478C-A0ED-BC3AA9955FBA@bernhardwagner.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bernhard Wagner LD Subject: Re: "self resonating" fretleess electric guitar -- ideas? Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:33:07 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: <0eZrzB.A.eUC.3NS_FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:33:11 +0000 (UTC) A guitarist I once jammed with could give you information about sealing the freatboard. He has successfully converted a Strat into a fretless guitar and it was awesome to play. His name is William Taylor Prichard. You can find his email address on his webpage: http://www.timespacemusic.com Please say Hi from me! Bernhard On 18.03.2007, at 12:22, Per Boysen wrote: > - Covering the fretboard with some super strong gloss (what's the > best? The stuff you do floors with? Boats?) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 18 12:23:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 89A4B3BECD; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:23:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAFfM/EXUSnIvk2dsb2JhbACPJAEBAQEHDgcGHZQv Message-ID: <45FD2F58.3050106@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:23:52 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "self resonating" fretleess electric guitar -- ideas? References: <002901c768a0$9bc4f1e0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <669A2DDB-B77E-4E2E-AC1B-E93C81AF24D8@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <669A2DDB-B77E-4E2E-AC1B-E93C81AF24D8@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69001 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 12:23:52 +0000 (UTC) Per Boysen wrote: > Hi, > > Thought I should ask if someone on the list has experience and tips on > this project. I'm thinking about rebuilding one of my guitars (probably > a telecaster) into a fretless guitar. I'v been playing fretless guitar > quite a lot in the past, but I was never happy with the short sustain. Sustain increases a lot if you can use your fingernail to hold the string down. > Today I'm playing my Stratocaster with "tone extention" provided by a > tiny speaker cone gaffa taped to the neck's head, driven from an > amplified signal tap taken from the guitar's pickups (i.e. a "poor mans > Sustainiac"). So I just had the brilliant idea to combine these two > somewhat dissatisfying experimental trips into something that actually > works as a playable instrument to rely on. > > Here are the details as I'm envisioning the process so far. Please > comment if you know better methods: > > - Taking off the frets. (done that before, no problem) You were lucky. Sometimes this alters the tension in the fingerboard and the neck goes banana. (or so I hear, not actually seen this happen) One way is to file down the frets. A neat way to get the neck really flat is attach sandpaper to a mirror with double sided tape. ( has to be a mirror, then if reflection is accurate you know it's flat) > - Covering the fretboard with some super strong gloss (what's the best? > The stuff you do floors with? Boats?) The stuff for boats definitely. Epoxy paint with a tube of hardener. > - Tapping the signal (how to do this inside the guitar's electronics? > Can I simply solder a "Y" connection somewhere? Just Y connecting will probably affect the tone/volume > At the moment I'm > tapping it from a Pod pedal with two outputs) > - Mounting the little speaker somewhere inside the instrument's body > (eventually also the battery driven amp; a disassembled mini Marshall > practice amp) > - Maybe I should as well think about a "power plug-in" jack on this > guitar? (batteries tend to let you down) > > My idea is to use flat strings for a murky sound and minimal string > noise during the glissandi. I played fretless bass for years, and only tried flatwound once. Roundwound don't have a noise problem with glissandi. ...and a murky sound is v.easy to get by technique. An interesting fretless guitarist is Erkan OÄŸur ( Erkan Ogur is that doesn't format) ...uses an ebow for sustain andy butler > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 18 13:09:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DF5F03BEC7; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:09:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=miodjW6ujJX06IKYsRV2FN8TxI5OXTAhsRIvnq3PgtZRe0Jr+ytbWo28ZeSojfiX4ZlP0LikXLJ/+tBdtlWdTTH+0n1VGOH8ZD6wGe+gYGu8piIpXD0k9CUpj6B6+orjI5OEmO9W4c1VyYoRRTwJappjlEddufM/JAC7fJBqhMY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YRw4kEror07z8D7NR9Vw478296iAkb4jAke2RoaArW9rHZUcpjnMcW+VA3bsN1WtAcrLPTDgyIAYYQSTF2L5liq3Xs791R++BjIw6f0jFc3vx2BIvbdjWPXuEW9wSxOvNU4WDD9wS8r2xeoUuhXjpsEqPX2RwhEmFmJ3/6yLqRE= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 06:09:46 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "self resonating" fretleess electric guitar -- ideas? In-Reply-To: <669A2DDB-B77E-4E2E-AC1B-E93C81AF24D8@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <002901c768a0$9bc4f1e0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <669A2DDB-B77E-4E2E-AC1B-E93C81AF24D8@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:09:47 +0000 (UTC) You should talk to Ned Evett. He's a great fretless guitarist who uses a Fernandes Sustainer guitar that he's made fretless (he also loops a bit and he's modded all sorts of guitars to be fretless). He's done a lot of experimentation in this area. http://www.nedevett.com/ TravisH On 3/18/07, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi, > > Thought I should ask if someone on the list has experience and tips > on this project. I'm thinking about rebuilding one of my guitars > (probably a telecaster) into a fretless guitar. I'v been playing > fretless guitar quite a lot in the past, but I was never happy with > the short sustain. Today I'm playing my Stratocaster with "tone > extention" provided by a tiny speaker cone gaffa taped to the neck's > head, driven from an amplified signal tap taken from the guitar's > pickups (i.e. a "poor mans Sustainiac"). So I just had the brilliant > idea to combine these two somewhat dissatisfying experimental trips > into something that actually works as a playable instrument to rely on. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 18 13:21:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E78D13BECF; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:21:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: <171907.20894.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Darren Nelsen Subject: Re: RC-50 Some wav files don't work Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 09:21:37 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-ELNK-Trace: 4173614eae77cc41d4c20f6b8d69d8882c120543388a5fd7c0ca4e3df9e0601c7bc0d131b778c846350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.164.215.208 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:21:42 +0000 (UTC) So, no one else is having this problem? One idea I have is that the 'wav' files in question are not actually wav files. I'll dig into this and see what I can find. On Mar 15, 2007, at 10:22 AM, Darren Nelsen wrote: > I'm using an RC-50 with a Mac (OS X v10.4.9). I notice that > sometimes when I import wav files to the RC-50, some of them don't > work. They show up when I'm connected via USB, but when I > disconnect and bring up the patch on the RC-50... nothing! Does > anyone know what this is about? Other wav files work fine. I know > I'm naming them all correctly when I transfer them. Has anyone else > experienced this... have a solution? Thanks!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 18 15:40:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 31AA43BEC2; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:40:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: <002901c768a0$9bc4f1e0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <669A2DDB-B77E-4E2E-AC1B-E93C81AF24D8@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <7ccf386a3e5475e9b82872cc40f1f751@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: "self resonating" fretleess electric guitar -- ideas? Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 07:40:22 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: <6_gIyC.A.Y5.m1V_FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:40:23 +0000 (UTC) Per, I have never owned a fretless guitar -- nor ever tried to make one. My advice is strictly regarding the other half of your project. Your efforts at a DIY "Sustainiac." Long before I ever became such a big fan of the original Sustainiac I also experimented with placing small speakers on an old ES-335 copy that I played with all throughout the '70s. I had rather very mixed results though. Getting feedback (enhanced sustain) of the notes I wanted in a predictable fashion was the problem I most encountered when trying to put the speaker on or within the body of the guitar. Getting feedback when I didn't want it was the next most difficult aspect. Control was the issue Putting it on the headstock seemed to work best. I couldn't authoritatively really say why -- not being a luthier or acoustical scientist. But, my guess would be that the body was too resonant in a wide range of frequencies. Driving the strings from the headstock gave that extra vibrating energy less of a place to go -- other than back to the strings. Once I figured out that -- and the old Sustainiac Model B had appeared on the market in the mid 80s anyway -- I figured, "Why not use a commercial product." I'd already bought my first chrome Ebow in 1980 and IT was working out pretty well (if for only one string at a time). I picked up a Sustainiac a few years later and was totally hooked. Yes, the Sustainiac is clunky and funky and you've got a little black box and an exra black wire hanging from your headstock. But the darn thing works so well -- at least it has for me. In addition to my original Model B, I purchased the new Model C a few years back and it works like a charm. Anywho, if you are still in DIY mode, stick with placing it on the headstock somehow. I know it is not as hidden and "stealthy" of an effect that way. But it works better IMOHO. Also, I got the best results from small self-powered speakers I got from Radio Shack. They probably don't have Radio Shack in Sweden, but I imagine they have similar stores for electronic do-it-yourselfers. If I remember correctly. Didn't you receive and do a magazine review of a Sustainiac device in Sweden a few years back? Being an old guy my mind plays tricks on me. How did it work out for you? Best regards, Ted Killian > On 3/18/07, Per Boysen wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Thought I should ask if someone on the list has experience and tips >> on this project. I'm thinking about rebuilding one of my guitars >> (probably a telecaster) into a fretless guitar. I'v been playing >> fretless guitar quite a lot in the past, but I was never happy with >> the short sustain. Today I'm playing my Stratocaster with "tone >> extention" provided by a tiny speaker cone gaffa taped to the neck's >> head, driven from an amplified signal tap taken from the guitar's >> pickups (i.e. a "poor mans Sustainiac"). So I just had the brilliant >> idea to combine these two somewhat dissatisfying experimental trips >> into something that actually works as a playable instrument to rely >> on. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 18 15:42:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2DC9C3BEC5; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:42:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=DrJbFrlPqsbtxInSvaCgVsgDOgKKiDgM3dD9CY3D/XRnsdy9wn7BKBkenrPhAAEE1AC3SIf/OhiPZfdCYBOurGThWzN2E0Y4xejvWbU8qMNWDLct7NtXWIBF9Fv7ofN6leLED/sub+fmCJ0eRJnJWamINJ25DnyKnVnOlDdzE4A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=KihMzNQorgq3RsZCa0E8NJAVGInFA0vOD/HseRAVAGFM6LDk3yshNdy8j8p11vyhJX5jeSXSoG9tcsIvPONJy5egsuyU2W7SinUrXbtk7ObnmReOGi8vDWVNIIW6wN4crZcP9+HxFhkDL5aIEMbXFXaFDqFhuDQgRfo5l1LauW4= Message-ID: <64b81a780703180842ke616b89gdf2a2a76a142bfb2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:42:07 -0400 From: "Todd Pafford" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "self resonating" fretleess electric guitar -- ideas? In-Reply-To: <669A2DDB-B77E-4E2E-AC1B-E93C81AF24D8@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <002901c768a0$9bc4f1e0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <669A2DDB-B77E-4E2E-AC1B-E93C81AF24D8@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <7eSDfD.A.dJB.R3V_FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:42:10 +0000 (UTC) Per, You should check out the DIY (do it yourself) section of the Unfretted website at . You'll find lots of info about both the unfretting process and about attaching a sustainer. I'm sure you could find other folks with info in the Unfretted forums as well. Good luck. I've always be curious about unfretting, but have never taken the plunge myself. Todd On 3/18/07, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi, > > Thought I should ask if someone on the list has experience and tips > on this project. I'm thinking about rebuilding one of my guitars > (probably a telecaster) into a fretless guitar. I'v been playing > fretless guitar quite a lot in the past, but I was never happy with > the short sustain. Today I'm playing my Stratocaster with "tone > extention" provided by a tiny speaker cone gaffa taped to the neck's > head, driven from an amplified signal tap taken from the guitar's > pickups (i.e. a "poor mans Sustainiac"). So I just had the brilliant > idea to combine these two somewhat dissatisfying experimental trips > into something that actually works as a playable instrument to rely on. > > Here are the details as I'm envisioning the process so far. Please > comment if you know better methods: > > - Taking off the frets. (done that before, no problem) > - Covering the fretboard with some super strong gloss (what's the > best? The stuff you do floors with? Boats?) > - Tapping the signal (how to do this inside the guitar's electronics? > Can I simply solder a "Y" connection somewhere? At the moment I'm > tapping it from a Pod pedal with two outputs) > - Mounting the little speaker somewhere inside the instrument's body > (eventually also the battery driven amp; a disassembled mini Marshall > practice amp) > - Maybe I should as well think about a "power plug-in" jack on this > guitar? (batteries tend to let you down) > > My idea is to use flat strings for a murky sound and minimal string > noise during the glissandi. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 18 16:00:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C9E043BEC7; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:00:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=nrQZQa4xxq8eiQUFBJmRdrhT/kH3eeY6FlBShd/3bpSMn17PFivZ1M6SQG7RZ77YeOdi+p+UIGIQcicSspUF8QLX1lbAw3hwah9zgK7Te5/kAbSjmjRYU0i7mPwRpI0nU1gBKcKMacYP7MZbiEHJC6wBs4BnW2OAHs33mqf/FSQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=UZYgOKLF/13vpA32pRed2+o0qOqoyaM5WmsBbglXdEGZBRcuTvhBIZ1/UHkNawZcjgLae+hnIBm6SNm1TwuPMjfyeXFLYc/v2DMjiXeW3AiGLer/QRKd7n8RhloalGRY1GfBXBdS2wRYfEOqs9s9fcK6sHrdzKWclnHToouFDlc= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:00:26 +0000 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Crossfade Loop Synth (Effect) v3 now officially released MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2a10532c0659be48 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:00:27 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I mentioned this a few weeks ago, and there seemed to be some genuine interest in amongst the obligatory slew of requests for a PC version. :) Anyway, it's properly out now. http://www.collective.co.uk/expertsleepers/xfadelooper.html cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.collective.co.uk/ http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 18 17:12:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 00B383BEB9; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:12:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=XhMVX2zsKn17rHQgs2h1q00TmaUZDsYjKzpAjftezyYmBi5PMY6EMHw4pKw82hhst1QOokgnUibEwfOsDEpqtxPRl6c+lQz0R91Zv8FCoCc33XI1hrZOuSt6z9lUK2pqZib6i7QmlKnHMD1JAkOemEYKd8Ti+5zNeCQFB9rOJRU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=f7Mz2vih4WbNK6+XxmfJPDNLsfacpvh7UCBcsdn2YGf9HFcQWdECP8+eCEw+HDWGLF5bRoCtYcPlpejEfpy5kU/J8yL1loXV1UiVskGrCSkyEaIcsFe5uWjhOSbqi7O+xV8kT4TDYPhaYvxavI4nxEpfstwfvsWJSDJJ0uNkQgE= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <64b81a780703180842ke616b89gdf2a2a76a142bfb2@mail.gmail.com> References: <002901c768a0$9bc4f1e0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <669A2DDB-B77E-4E2E-AC1B-E93C81AF24D8@gmail.com> <64b81a780703180842ke616b89gdf2a2a76a142bfb2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: "self resonating" fretleess electric guitar -- ideas? Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:12:29 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:12:34 +0000 (UTC) On 18 mar 2007, at 16.42, Todd Pafford wrote: > Unfretted website at > . What a great resource that site is! Thank you. On 18 mar 2007, at 16.40, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: > Putting it on the headstock seemed to work best. That's my finding to, with the DIY Poor Mans Sustaniac I mocked up. =20 Ted, do you think the electro-acoustic type that you have is in some =20 way better than the magnetic (the Stealth Plus)? I'm not sure I can =20 play a Telecaster with some extra weight added to the head stock. =20 It's already incorrectly balanced as the stock default version. One =20 thought, but you need to verify it by hands-on experience, is that =20 the electro-acoustic one can be nicer to play because it works on the =20= wood of the instrument in a mechanical way? > If I remember correctly. Didn't you receive and do a magazine =20 > review of a Sustainiac > device in Sweden a few years back? Being an old guy my mind plays =20 > tricks on me. > How did it work out for you? I was going to buy one and a friend in Sweden should pick it up for =20 me at NAMM. But he forgot about it. A test review was scheduled but =20 never happened because I didn't get my hands on one. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 18 17:23:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B2F83BECA; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:23:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45FD758A.6090107@mhorse.com> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:23:22 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "self resonating" fretleess electric guitar -- ideas? References: <002901c768a0$9bc4f1e0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <669A2DDB-B77E-4E2E-AC1B-E93C81AF24D8@gmail.com> <64b81a780703180842ke616b89gdf2a2a76a142bfb2@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:23:24 +0000 (UTC) Just in response to the self-resonating part, instead of making any modifications to the guitar itself I've often cranked up a battery-powered amp on a stool to my left, pointed it toward me so the audience doesn't have to hear it and fed it from a Y-cable. When I want to sustain a note, I just press the headstock right up against the amp housing. It's less predictable than an actual Sustainiac, but I like being able to control it with a physical motion, as well as not having to deal with cords and heavy crap on my headstock. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 18 17:49:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B4F93BEC1; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:49:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=IH2d9nB2ufK5FWZAup1IOkVrqa+FDKfZClVNGaQ+O/nSaULD6LQyfhZEm4BS3Tt2lLLk4avPCu/sEpKFiAKbmWYFDEg9yHSMupweWDbjd0SDmEqda4N7rJoaRva5RaPAcpZB1b+OIp2sOrQqPn6B6RWNCNJr/smPm3qtBGTSGp4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=T0+AhPGIdW6l9R9uniwxYryvWdhfNoIkOnw66m55AKDNL68ACNbofgAXyFXr6j+xjBwUGxzlx6g0y4FrvxtgLLpl8RJawD/0aEF9Bt2oG4IfC8HjDOWcM9NL+Af5OaLzvUh6gjJhQikrzRDh61nkMNt/I6fSPBsE0cG1jWBpefU= Message-ID: <9e0440a60703181049j1aa1d751o7cb5a8ca37e87046@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:49:36 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "self resonating" fretleess electric guitar -- ideas? In-Reply-To: <669A2DDB-B77E-4E2E-AC1B-E93C81AF24D8@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <002901c768a0$9bc4f1e0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <669A2DDB-B77E-4E2E-AC1B-E93C81AF24D8@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0D3RWB.A.4NB.zuX_FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:49:39 +0000 (UTC) per I've been playing fretless pretty much exclusively since this past December and loving it. I had thought about fairly seriously modding one of my guitars to the 'village of the unfretted'. on the unfretted site someone else has already listed in this thread there is much doc on the process. in the end however I decided to purchase a generic 'adamas' style acoustic-electric off ebay which I got for $132 with shipping. its been a gem and great experiece thusfar. I mention this to say though there is an advantage to modding what you have but for me in the end time against money. the sustain does become different, for me most noticeable on some of the tapping that I do. however what I've found is the fretless becomes its own animal and not just a guitar without frets. flatwounds are the way to go as no squeaking and doesn't eat away at the neck. a great resource on the frettless world is a guy who really inspired me in this path named Michael Vick. http://www.themickevicktrip.com (may have site wrong right now). Jim Goodin http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com post.. playing slide on the fretless just becomes the best... On 3/18/07, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi, > > Thought I should ask if someone on the list has experience and tips > on this project. I'm thinking about rebuilding one of my guitars > (probably a telecaster) into a fretless guitar. I'v been playing > fretless guitar quite a lot in the past, but I was never happy with > the short sustain. Today I'm playing my Stratocaster with "tone > extention" provided by a tiny speaker cone gaffa taped to the neck's > head, driven from an amplified signal tap taken from the guitar's > pickups (i.e. a "poor mans Sustainiac"). So I just had the brilliant > idea to combine these two somewhat dissatisfying experimental trips > into something that actually works as a playable instrument to rely on. > > Here are the details as I'm envisioning the process so far. Please > comment if you know better methods: > > - Taking off the frets. (done that before, no problem) > - Covering the fretboard with some super strong gloss (what's the > best? The stuff you do floors with? Boats?) > - Tapping the signal (how to do this inside the guitar's electronics? > Can I simply solder a "Y" connection somewhere? At the moment I'm > tapping it from a Pod pedal with two outputs) > - Mounting the little speaker somewhere inside the instrument's body > (eventually also the battery driven amp; a disassembled mini Marshall > practice amp) > - Maybe I should as well think about a "power plug-in" jack on this > guitar? (batteries tend to let you down) > > My idea is to use flat strings for a murky sound and minimal string > noise during the glissandi. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) > > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com Associates and friends on the web - Daryl Shawn - http://www.swanwelder.com Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 18 18:17:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2012C3BEB9; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:17:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-WELL-Auth: Yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <669A2DDB-B77E-4E2E-AC1B-E93C81AF24D8@gmail.com> References: <002901c768a0$9bc4f1e0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <669A2DDB-B77E-4E2E-AC1B-E93C81AF24D8@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:17:38 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Muir Subject: Re: "self resonating" fretleess electric guitar -- ideas? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.88.7/2865/Sun Mar 18 08:27:48 2007 on paz.well.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Resent-Message-ID: <6Eu3c.A.AzC.JJY_FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:17:46 +0000 (UTC) A couple years ago I picked up a Fernandes fretless with sustainer from: http://www.fretlessguitar.com At the time they offered hexaphonic pickups and sustainers on the Fernandes guitars they sell, but they don't seem to now. I think Ned Everett is associated with this site. -C -- Chris Muir | "There are many futures and only one status quo. cbm@well.com | This is why conservatives mostly agree, http://www.xfade.com | and radicals always argue." - Brian Eno From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 18 18:52:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E0533BEB0; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:52:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <024301c7698e$94ba0540$6a01a8c0@DTT60> From: "Dave Trenkel" To: References: Subject: Re: Crossfade Loop Synth (Effect) v3 now officially released Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 11:52:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Score: 0 () X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 18:52:31 +0000 (UTC) Very cool! Now, when does the PC version come out? :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Os" To: Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 9:00 AM Subject: Crossfade Loop Synth (Effect) v3 now officially released > Hi, > > I mentioned this a few weeks ago, and there seemed to be some genuine > interest in amongst the obligatory slew of requests for a PC version. > :) > > Anyway, it's properly out now. > > http://www.collective.co.uk/expertsleepers/xfadelooper.html > > > cheers, > os. > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://www.collective.co.uk/ > http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 18 20:19:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22BE13BEB6; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 20:19:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=s8RUCMoOiaHeb0uDGyf9h/uSDfNs9B5lysEPdNw4PW1B5gSjmRk9SkfKk5Q2saOV5/8HSI8M+Bt36wBnT3k78Bm3oU++2wXPFoYJz+I+JEbjK0SCiNTep/pRa5gYvf7aT0SaEVaumHLA8J0AmEwOxqyZOcAdRRwu8eC0xM+JfhY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ohgFv/iYMFY9sK3bEtp3ZkaZ2gioUWFPkymHFlEgvHZzlSSTdnXW6DHR9J34Pw2gNR4I7JC+O9QMgXh4wHqx0qlx+8cFR/5hB20FI7XWefOX1DsaDGyEEioWdrnWUDxOazdDeONgHpnVeD6sty0uFPUur6XJwva4yqIVIXQca1E= Message-ID: <43d7a2f70703181319o24ea685fv34728f6056fcfb1f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:19:48 -0500 From: "Seth Hain" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Introductory Looper MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 20:19:51 +0000 (UTC) Hello, I'm looking for an introductory looper. I've been looking at the DigiTech JamMan. The material on it states that one may record up to 99 loops. As I'm new to these I want to make sure it will do what I want, mainly be able to on-the-fly record a sample and start it looping and then record another sample and start it looping and continue in these manner and then subtract off the loops in any order I want. Is this feasible with the JamMan. Did I just describe a looper in general? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Seth From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 18 21:29:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 118CD3BEB0; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 21:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: <002901c768a0$9bc4f1e0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <669A2DDB-B77E-4E2E-AC1B-E93C81AF24D8@gmail.com> <64b81a780703180842ke616b89gdf2a2a76a142bfb2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <68b85b2a34050315d635014f4a0bc87b@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: "self resonating" fretleess electric guitar -- ideas? Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 13:29:35 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 21:29:40 +0000 (UTC) Per, Well, the electro-acoustic (or electro-mechanical) ones seem to work more like real guitar-amp feedback -- something a lot of us understand quite well -- only much more predictably. It's all a matter of what seems right (and useful) to the player though. After becoming long familiar with my Sustainiac Model B I would annually stop by Alan Hoover's booth at NAMM and say "thank you." He's a very personable and open sort of guy. Every time he'd let me try his new gadget (whatever it was, improved versions, etc.). More than once I spent some time with the "Stealth" type trying to figure it out too. He, got to where my being in the booth enabled him to go get a bite to eat (he was running it by himself). He'd leave me playing stuff for a half hour at a time. But I just never warmed to the "Stealth" models. The sound wasn't the same. My ability to control it wasn't the same. It was just different -- not better or worse -- just different. It may have had just as much to do with the fact that it was all unfamiliar (wrong guitar, wrong amp, wrong tuning, wrong FX, wrong environment). I am not a "Strat" guy -- prefering Gibsons generally -- and I tune all of my guitars in weird ways (leaning towards open Major Sus4 tonalities). So my rejection of stealthy pick up sustainers should be taken with a grain of salt. I also liked the idea that the headstock models could work with ANY steel-stringed guitar I owned. I never play a guitar without one of the doggone things now (unless I'm playing privately in my living room) it has so very much become part of how I think of my own guitar playing. Playing without that extra control over how the note lingers in the air seems flat and uninteresting to me. As you said once before, sustainers are like breath control on a wind instrument. Feedback sustain can give a guitar a certain vocal-like quality. I am used to working with that. As for balance, my Gibson is rather heavy anyway. A little transducer on the headstock hardly has much effect. I also play seated a lot -- not always but more than half the time. I am a ridiculously bad dancer too. If people want to see someone jump around and move a lot while playing they need to go see someone else -- not me, heheh. It's a bit more of a problem on my Danelectro Baritone guitar. It is both light and has a ridiculously long neck. The transducer DOES put that uncomfortably out of balance. Does this help? Best regards, Ted Killian On Mar 18, 2007, at 9:12 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > That's my finding to, with the DIY Poor Mans Sustaniac I mocked up. > Ted, do you think the electro-acoustic type that you have is in some > way better than the magnetic (the Stealth Plus)? I'm not sure I can > play a Telecaster with some extra weight added to the head stock. It's > already incorrectly balanced as the stock default version. One > thought, but you need to verify it by hands-on experience, is that the > electro-acoustic one can be nicer to play because it works on the wood > of the instrument in a mechanical way? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 18 21:43:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4546B3BEC2; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 21:43:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Zd3AOos3kNtTvSeNLgRecdhO6mIV7ESx0hTUnrDtQHe96o71vhPypefUeLxB96ZHprhVtB50d+OQgkazcYXPaKNoqM0NJKCXD/9VVBn39tSZNYUzHHRKrae86UcvpPk1jWVNqlV90bCIdEjw/v9cLG7SwAz4M6jGICVV0eH281g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=MOCXFFi55HYJQZFU4FGMh2pEgOSToCa7pJF0UXaTO3V5CZduYf/vwJNCEsYkMz24wW9fi6m4MUKfh1xOQPZsONXjHTwaL4f/zbVvmzikUQCfR6XXXTeItL8Sr3XYgrAYaeOIRoPxHbAbILsW+6pMHO0q2oF3Vsg5EAjg6wEYKyY= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <68b85b2a34050315d635014f4a0bc87b@charter.net> References: <002901c768a0$9bc4f1e0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <669A2DDB-B77E-4E2E-AC1B-E93C81AF24D8@gmail.com> <64b81a780703180842ke616b89gdf2a2a76a142bfb2@mail.gmail.com> <68b85b2a34050315d635014f4a0bc87b@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <29741B64-3585-4B29-A0C4-24581A462A84@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: "self resonating" fretleess electric guitar -- ideas? Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 22:43:17 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 21:43:27 +0000 (UTC) On 18 mar 2007, at 22.29, tEd =AE kiLLiAn wrote: 8< 8< 8< 8< 8< 8< 8< > Does this help? Your last post helps a lot, Ted. Thanks for taking the time. I think =20 the electro-acoustic "C model" Sustainiac would be best for me. I'm =20 quite experienced with controlling acoustic feedback from years of =20 playing in bands, standing right beside my tube top plus cabinet. =20 Hand muting and swaying for optimal feedback acoustics are still =20 second nature to my playing. I guess I can cut down on the swaying =20 with the C model though ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 18 22:10:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B54293BEC5; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 22:10:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Looping in OZ :: RC-## question Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:40:20 +1030 Message-ID: <65865F047B28324D92F716B06CAAFE0F0232684D@sagemsg0020.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au> In-Reply-To: <116658.8569.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Looping in OZ :: RC-## question Thread-Index: AcdnKlzRS8qgXraiSwGuTmVdfknY2ACf2O7Q From: "McDade, Rob (SLSA)" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2007 22:10:21.0126 (UTC) FILETIME=[382E3E60:01C769AA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 22:10:29 +0000 (UTC) G'day Luis, I think the RC-20 models may be the way to go then. I think you can turn the quantise off. I play a few things in odd time signatures so that would be a problem. The 20's seem to be coming down in price too. Also I don't think you can step thru the preset loops with the RC-2 like you can with the others. CHeers Rob McDade -----Original Message----- From: L.A. Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Friday, 16 March 2007 4:20 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping in OZ :: RC-## question Hey Rob! I have just purchased the RC-2 which is being tested in my compact pedalboard which has some basic efx, plus a DD-20 as well.I am not sure if i want to keep the RC-2...there are 2 things that really piss me off,one is not being able to loop without having your loop automatically quantizised and having to hear the loop while erasing it after u have stopped it,grrrr! But good tool to rehearse those dusty blues,teach and plently of cheesy drum loops! Luis > Size and budget is a major factor. The RC -2 retails > for about $300-330 > AUS - less on ebay. It should also fit nicely into > my new custom made > pedal board - which I haven't designed yet. Gotta > put a new kitchen in > my house first. >=20 > Any suggestions? >=20 > Rob McDade >=20 >=20 www.myspace.com/luisangulocom =20 ________________________________________________________________________ ____________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. =20 Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 18 22:23:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A44D23BEB6; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 22:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=hiqNBWGfvOGA06amqPmymgDPw15GKy8dXSbNrpnWlBYPwtvbCksy3DERXXVRqPUn0TkvUKvxJXEJQ3MKzyFBrEEB5E3wZUPH1h3/vb83VXJ7xwbV07ArGGA0ZrBJvlA4D6nhtA2gpZ9zaeQdgL6u2cG/5S846rFe2JZGMugwSYE=; X-YMail-OSG: gWnlcmgVM1mYdt.2kjoJYbcUEi_Bq3fAaqK1dCEWNyH_JTSDUfZDguLQjoHod66vcXJNWsnZVd8AIaA.vYgaBWG6hV0GDhvQUUo.WgNWvQ_gO9PnDX8Y Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:23:27 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Subject: fretless guitar feedback To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <566431.59580.qm@web32709.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69016 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 22:23:32 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, As much luk as i have had with the radio shack 273-064 transducer, I think i'll tape one to my headstocks and try diving it with lower poe=wered amp. maybe with a volume ppedal for control. rig ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get your own web address. 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Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 18 22:28:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A56213BEB2; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 22:28:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=aD+fue+GsRAmtm1m6+ZEbABdc/OK630qEkluB42mSZmQPJLErlVjKTscwx2CV1cympUnNRVnJ+0a0Pu6gBpcdqsg874l/jAl1JoTCk1CT1gdFgCiNpU9HXm9oW1GZseOKPBfHlxE3UM7VxRQF6OB2BSCwhiuwzxQjtdrO9SKa7g=; X-YMail-OSG: hhQR3nAVM1l4Z5VMO3hnrxw0dlSIISedq3vn9dcRGbIPaX5p7.apKXwZxJg4fBQJvDuG6EgpzdILOYbhQ_7Rp.n12DmYckvMzs5u7BTXOXwAR6xp.OWAvv8gouw2lxI_kU1IIiw0XN4AQalTaez1fQtX Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:28:25 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Subject: fretless guitar sustain To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <178088.29454.qm@web32701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 22:28:28 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, If you possibly can getahold of timothy Donahue. He put out a video years ago playing a fretless "guitar harp" the most awesome solo performance I have ever seen. Try and get a hold of him. Fretless guitarist for over 20 years.I'm sure he'd be awealth of information. Rig ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 18 23:56:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3EA6E3BEB8; Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=SF6UKIA6sEItECwoq2kAlZNw3T+iWlLfq2Ad7RnKS8fqvH7BGJOwh1QXWCHEcN4kzXyheZi2XoNdLB3yh/2WZDc6jwa8icmnpzTia7cR9OCWtd6db1VQ5QYaiTkuiOorjwSKDVQCPWghyEm/zd5oXWiWDPKuxiTYPGere/PeD8c=; X-YMail-OSG: bLENc2MVM1mSwUTiUay173WARixJ6WM.9hJZDK0JkoUHuIRQhenZPz.lvziyu09.1tA06VTflIT5SxrW.v0RGk6xm3Zo4Xh28Z.H4T7ShSDxc.ZkYIDFmd99MYoqbFP3wd61AejgsiZV3A8- Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 16:56:02 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: New #/loopchat channel on IRC (FOR NERDS!) To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <178088.29454.qm@web32701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <216264.16762.qm@web81313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 23:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Hi fellow NERDS! (or geeks, dorks, what ever) Years ago I started dating a girl who did a ton of chatting over ol'school IRC (Internet Relay Chat). At first I thought they were purely for silly pick-up/flirt times, but she assured me that it wasn't, but was instead a way for instantanious communication between a community of friends. I reluctantly joined and ended up meeting a ton of people that I now call my friends, in a similar way to the people here I've met who I call friends. We often hang out in the real world as well. Often meetings are initated via chat in a very spontanious way. (Hey, anyone on line want to meet for sushi?) So anyway, what I've done is created a channel for us. It's simple to join. First you need an IRC client. There are free ones for the Mac or XP world. I go to versiontracker.com and do a search on "irc" and a bunch come up. I'm using colloquy for Mac OSX but there's also visualIRC for XP (it's not as friendlly though so I'm sure you can do better, I just don't use my PC for s such things. Anyway, think of it as a way to augment the LD list. A kind of continual virtual coctail party, where if your board and/or lonely you can log on and say, "HEY, has anyone ever had quantize problems with an Echoplex?" or something like that. Of course the topic can be (I hope) as varied and often off topic as LD can be, but hopefully it can hover around loop based music. So, in the client of your choice put in electricrain.com as your irc channel. Then type /join #/loopchat and you'll be in. It's an experiement that I'm not sure will work, but why not? Cheerio, Mark ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 19 00:21:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 85A2D3BEC1; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:21:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Y318PYO12IDWB+vmfP+u46iC2UpiPzhrpub4pyAbDYNBuUiULtlUiVjtAfzfwEIHfNrQ4g1K6acHWkYOp4ZB2ycFsB7ZhzRa3UmOz8KVlYNRXFdYWX+7onvVim4oXznPbbZ9G0024BzQGglWO9zcLu1qVogOsJ4ThkO+49ahy2A=; X-YMail-OSG: UPKNoDsVM1mjH8fP9GV0XwBR3v27PIUxvS7MGIMYIueFXnSNgBlhZBqR8WA_9uVHrg-- Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 17:21:49 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: New #/loopchat channel on IRC (FOR NERDS!) To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <216264.16762.qm@web81313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <787901.23916.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:21:54 +0000 (UTC) Here are some links for more info: http://www.mirc.com/irc.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat http://www.irchelp.org/ ____________________________________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 19 01:17:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D5D83BEB8; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 01:17:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <43d7a2f70703181319o24ea685fv34728f6056fcfb1f@mail.gmail.com> References: <43d7a2f70703181319o24ea685fv34728f6056fcfb1f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Darren Nelsen Subject: Re: Introductory Looper Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 21:17:13 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-ELNK-Trace: 4173614eae77cc41d4c20f6b8d69d8882c120543388a5fd7b0e5fdeea2d561d6df2378f0c4336485350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.164.215.208 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 01:17:15 +0000 (UTC) I hate to make a blanket statement, but in my book, anything Digitech = crap in terms of production quality. In other words, it'll break. I've never been happy with any Digitech device I've ever had. (Had to send one device back to the manufacturer twice, and it still broke.) Even sales reps point me away from Digitech when I ask about durability. This seems to be notorious with Digitech. I'm a fairly new looper too. I just purchased the Boss RC-50. I love it. It does what you've described (pretty much), but there's a limit to the amount of subtractions you can do. You have three "phrases" that you can record to, layer onto. You can drop any one of the phrases out at any time, bring them back, or re-record them. It has 99 patches and you can switch between patches on the fly, tho there seems to be some glitch that's been reported here on the list. (I don't switch between patches within a single composition, so not an issue for me.) Darren On Mar 18, 2007, at 4:19 PM, Seth Hain wrote: > Hello, > > I'm looking for an introductory looper. I've been looking at the > DigiTech JamMan. The material on it states that one may record up to > 99 loops. As I'm new to these I want to make sure it will do what I > want, mainly be able to on-the-fly record a sample and start it > looping and then record another sample and start it looping and > continue in these manner and then subtract off the loops in any order > I want. Is this feasible with the JamMan. Did I just describe a > looper in general? Any help would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > Seth From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 19 01:30:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3F37C3BEB9; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 01:30:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=fD1V6arBro9y688+DNZiNeZMvQTEX5nALG88XKUkGUPApPAljVf0Pnc+3RPnZjxmPifSjOSeMah5Skahf+nF+CwiSyuZtUMcVoRCpJSLnfWONpSyqagVNol9wYqa798mDw7vhLW3GJZ+TFxDYfthUhFP/Gwwsmis/MrRriK/S/U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=m7pPHuMQD0DJQbKIT3/eaQBM2N58s2UtYKWvATzmJVbejfUVPP34z50iiLfDTcA3CPq2F0BdY5wFS7AfYftex2YJuR81lwyWRRXCCzFmqXr4YBm/1SOY05/cHNHIa/ypLH24JP80AFk7YoAOA6a0nWwG7aI6k+YZCpBFedGmNwA= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <43d7a2f70703181319o24ea685fv34728f6056fcfb1f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9F216140-0291-4B08-8478-7B0A4F423E4F@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Schur Subject: Re: Introductory Looper Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 21:30:18 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 01:30:32 +0000 (UTC) I agree regarding the Digitech.. I had mine for a little over a year when the Stop/Tempo pedal started malfunctioning. Digitech fixed it under warranty, but still, it appears they do earn the reputation for faulty gear. Since then, I have acquired a Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro Plus... actually, I had to return the first one... it kept crashing. It it certainly a more full-featured device.. a tad on the expensive side, but worth it in my opinion. Now I just use the JamMan to capture loops from the EDP. The USB connection on the JamMan is a much simpler means of getting the files to the computer than a midi dump. Regards John On Mar 18, 2007, at 9:17 PM, Darren Nelsen wrote: > I hate to make a blanket statement, but in my book, anything > Digitech = crap in terms of production quality. In other words, > it'll break. I've never been happy with any Digitech device I've > ever had. (Had to send one device back to the manufacturer twice, > and it still broke.) Even sales reps point me away from Digitech > when I ask about durability. This seems to be notorious with Digitech. > > I'm a fairly new looper too. I just purchased the Boss RC-50. I > love it. It does what you've described (pretty much), but there's a > limit to the amount of subtractions you can do. You have three > "phrases" that you can record to, layer onto. You can drop any one > of the phrases out at any time, bring them back, or re-record them. > It has 99 patches and you can switch between patches on the fly, > tho there seems to be some glitch that's been reported here on the > list. (I don't switch between patches within a single composition, > so not an issue for me.) > > Darren > > On Mar 18, 2007, at 4:19 PM, Seth Hain wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I'm looking for an introductory looper. I've been looking at the >> DigiTech JamMan. The material on it states that one may record up to >> 99 loops. As I'm new to these I want to make sure it will do what I >> want, mainly be able to on-the-fly record a sample and start it >> looping and then record another sample and start it looping and >> continue in these manner and then subtract off the loops in any order >> I want. Is this feasible with the JamMan. Did I just describe a >> looper in general? Any help would be appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> Seth > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 19 02:02:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2DFAE3BEB9; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 02:02:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=m23sfwHqSyxXhNLrIYvHcng1+3ZfO+VqjjfVy49g2ER92ddx9MQUBFkt94aqOKKSf1jqkJhaBNQjamrIYl1UuCHWhdQteDEf6FXi2mriiiCsUYBqkA8Ni83De5uJFCyVyAtHYQC4uiFAXCBaXrVIgJRkj+c2SwBcGuN1mVAQFwU=; X-YMail-OSG: 2sS0LzsVM1m6MKCmpMBVsEcsviAdnDb.Q_7ZaxA5q4p4.d5jgbXHerjlwKWlcjn2yCrwXeHf7.Ygy4Yad4tHsvQ_OhH3wokhUWzrW9dNZyyqels_PHP2nteSss91Fx_MiQ0yjh6s8ESOHC22V8K3v.16Ng-- Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 19:02:25 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: Introductory Looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <493610.72069.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 02:02:37 +0000 (UTC) --- Darren Nelsen wrote: > I hate to make a blanket statement, but in my book, > anything Digitech > = crap in terms of production quality. In other > words, it'll break. Really? I've owned lots of Digitech devices (my first looper, in fact) and I've never had a single one break or fail in any way. I wasn't thrilled with their latest guitar processors, and perhaps they've gone down hill, but I'd be careful of making blanket statements like that. Mark ____________________________________________________________________________________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 19 05:14:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 767443BEC5; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=qlD/JHtXsUtV61d/kOUcgmGZZiN9lXc/dUFUxRlt65ywgOEMKZ6Q+qkUEVBFlAkjj4sSRm2U1N91i3T71C+XUB9lIKaCT0fVVDd2O6jIKeK+5TEFeRlJAo3hlqC56LKmAw73KJoOTLSIySRAQ6fZ+7GFPlEC1jsjmLJgayq8uhI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=RtOpGokLX96pyWxougzsVCwoy+O3+5vmIlkseuBC9J6rHwLfLxBiv4rMmyO37vfdzXSFG1SyKQWpCi3efSjZpLxKLh7EZmIA43Ka55W5lDcgA3yUPtOjI8AiEK845OeAVRDrCrm6pjZNmDI0lE5W3nITpZ5YIp1BdSeexADezfM= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2007 21:14:50 -0800 From: "Ian Miller" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Suggest a foot controller for my new Eventide! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_42186_23905745.1174281290880" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:14:53 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_42186_23905745.1174281290880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, all. Just picked up an H3000B/SE, and I'm in the market for a MIDI foot controller. What's available, and what's the best bang for the buck? Thanks! -ian ------=_Part_42186_23905745.1174281290880 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi, all. Just picked up an H3000B/SE, and I'm in the market for a MIDI foot controller. What's available, and what's the best bang for the buck?

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    ------=_Part_42186_23905745.1174281290880-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 19 05:19:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C7433BEB5; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:19:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Jeff Shirkey Subject: Re: Suggest a foot controller for my new Eventide! Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 00:21:06 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:19:30 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 19, 2007, at 12:14 AM, Ian Miller wrote: > Hi, all. Just picked up an H3000B/SE, and I'm in the market for a > MIDI foot controller. What's available, and what's the best bang > for the buck? I suppose it depends on what you want it to do. But, that said, the two best MIDI foot controllers for guitar players who are trying to control rack gear are Axess Electronics FX-1 and Skrydstrup R&D. I have the Axess FX-1. Neither are cheap, however. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 19 05:22:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 272A83BEB6; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:22:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CDVC9of7xs/AYJPvM2vbXQJgCvr9DwezD2McYoD98WS1CIqrksJdBJWKtCXUh9jL0VqM9gZnN+CXjgs/GYVR2MXOnkXztuL6MQfapdnIjkh89z9kMWxFPaE24UZLwuKBubL4WALiMRTl4UIavL4XPkDP/7EA7NPS6iMOzqMT9eI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=Y5Ukk0oP+zKnqAogy5h7kU9mpnqVbsFZxd+cTEstIua73aLNpM81lU+/0cXMG5XhIOTpiIjVtXoFBsTHuwHOFxPfnYIDmIrOeXyW+423wm6vhv0u7RitpG4zGSd9YYe5RDiPrQxEaR7W4nuVyNCN5RxFjTeEc82pFWeKet2SDng= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 01:22:33 -0400 From: "Mark Trewella" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Suggest a foot controller for my new Eventide! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 05:22:35 +0000 (UTC) Nobels MF-2 is a nice one, small and sturdy. I got one of ebay right now if you are interested. http://cgi.ebay.com/Nobels-MF-2-Midi-Foot-Controller-LIKE-NEW_W0QQitemZ190093195569QQcategoryZ308QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem On 3/19/07, Jeff Shirkey wrote: > > On Mar 19, 2007, at 12:14 AM, Ian Miller wrote: > > > Hi, all. Just picked up an H3000B/SE, and I'm in the market for a > > MIDI foot controller. What's available, and what's the best bang > > for the buck? > > I suppose it depends on what you want it to do. But, that said, the > two best MIDI foot controllers for guitar players who are trying to > control rack gear are Axess Electronics FX-1 and Skrydstrup R&D. I > have the Axess FX-1. Neither are cheap, however. > > Jeff > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 19 06:38:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3AD2A3BEC1; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 06:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=mDE0Y4uG2f0od27yoxVEC4ID3mbTBJesAHEuqkmwxocmXMHbd5F0mck1x9QmBr3egsYyR9v9S8wCW4lk6OdvvfdMMBmws6t43ojkVwToB03hX0uR6B8vzarmgs46cf7tfRz7O4FM0qw8z0OyCjbnx9Sat/r9qClb8B0NGqz4Ing= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=i08nbFvC67z5u5gvOW2nBtbsgsR0u108pSzei6cZsyvqbQ3PpCWvn+HvW8DpxVLk87qyNStSF8XCj46Ho6DEQNjbuQ1ajUTW8GKWgxxi76vq9GoXkAwxRh8kgzXPWJq5nrniRQZybhB2ABAc2GUWeUeGRbyP6M1k1inQ4n7Xeqo= Message-ID: <26ba8d120703182338y62461c61u4b3b10e98f5bcb3c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 02:38:39 -0400 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight Subject: loop venue in Budapest?; and, 9V extender cord? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: a4aba8ca5c516a97 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 06:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Hello, loopers all. Sorry for no word, it's been busy. I'll be in Budapest next week -- any of you have any good contacts there for a place I could do a 45 minute show? Sample at http://ax.to/PourT.mp3 or http://TomRitchford.com/music I have one of those little devices that power multiple 9V items. I realize that one of my items should sit on the floor and the rest on a table. Is there some extender that will run from my Godlyke/similar power supply and extend the default 9V power supply plug? -- /t http://ax.to ......... extreme NY arts and music calendar http://ax.to/tr ....... my secret little little... http://ax.to/radio ... my little radio station (on intermittently) From sholzman@nls.at Mon Mar 19 08:49:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 1333 seconds by postgrey-1.21 at arsenic; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:49:45 UTC Received: from arktur.nls.at (arktur.nls.at [195.34.143.18]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 860443BEAF for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 08:49:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arktur.nls.at (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93D41F4DB for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:27:30 +0100 (CET) Received: from arktur.nls.at ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (arktur [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14812-01 for ; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:27:28 +0100 (CET) Received: by arktur.nls.at (Postfix, from userid 1059) id 4136F1E811; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:14:10 +0100 (CET) To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: Security Measures From: Bank of America MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-encoding: 8bit Reply-To: Bank of America Message-ID: <87140fdf056f194288056c88b076cf91@bankofamerica.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSmail-Priority: High X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 07:14:10 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-NLS-new at nls.at Bank of America - verify your account information

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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 19 09:27:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 822833BEB6; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=DGume6o00ZRIorfbV2LpHrto8kDMrrpTNGPKEQ0mjEns//XGcQGUssxlhnSdk2hjjXBOT0C3qH6HTaMtWDdFuAovR04BI+bhKMl0ndJdMBJUBZ3DStCpkgEr/n+X/1F6aHyYGDMg5Lr+kJ8xWMslcG4Nz18Up9mP8A2OgGf06Mw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=pSLxqcyoqkmpnhd5ueUVNpoP/zHHf7Ldw3yCp9BNLEW/sJWgiISVwTndno8070CE8nd0H242i7CIOrFzkst1bdrgPMmnxAmAhPnzF/tSUZE3Gg4V4EDpxYNnyjbRHpAKjs4zTXlWxFH1xzcEptMv6RBJXwkDYPJnjZLkARdbuVs= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:27:36 +0000 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: digest messed up? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: c8c5a0e8f9c26c7d Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Is anyone else receiving the digest mails, and finding the formatting all wrong? There don't seem to be any headers on the individual mails any more, making it very hard to find a specific post of interest within the mail. cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.collective.co.uk/ http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 19 09:40:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 59FB43BED2; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:40:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <011201c76a0a$f91a0e00$2302a8c0@chris> From: "Chris@jtc.de" To: References: <20070318154023.D61B43BECD@arsenic.violacea.com> Subject: Editing profile Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:41:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-RZG-AUTH: gSBzUHIFnvYRpGJuMB9l2uY7g79gUyUTWifMTNE/eNx+ijZ+VyHU6I92Rzy6Mw== X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:40:49 +0000 (UTC) I have lost my password. What can I do now to edit my profile. Does anyone know? Best, Christo Jota www.myspace.com/christojota ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 4:40 PM Subject: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V07 #213 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 19 14:03:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C72493BEC7; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:03:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ejjcREMG9owmlmDX+uSdDY+FiCeZ3dIqNrgNOQPsViOHXzFQVTVM6ZqZf90jvbnIKCxR7sWLXCC/bleJdDteivKKNEiNxiRIrKvmaIqrc/xojy4BaxC3AxFFqS+cgCbet8kVL4U+uqsxwhJvMJWwEyH0lWBaYhkKBIlx8mmSf28= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=q4dyjon4cpWAdmfwXhyU7gaUL0YGBUemlFKlepXScID8SEEhydh8MySZo96de4LsgebggRmQiBZZzDMvv7ex4823dkA18WZh3XnTHqbkXu8YyZqMFfhajzP0BVsepPB556zKQEzsigUa25L7r4npAkWU8YxxBkmNFE8FYHIR1bQ= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45FD2F58.3050106@tiscali.co.uk> References: <002901c768a0$9bc4f1e0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <669A2DDB-B77E-4E2E-AC1B-E93C81AF24D8@gmail.com> <45FD2F58.3050106@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: "self resonating" fretleess electric guitar -- ideas? Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:03:02 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:03:07 +0000 (UTC) On 18 mar 2007, at 13.23, andy butler wrote: > Sometimes this alters the tension in the fingerboard and the neck > goes banana. > (or so I hear, not actually seen this happen) Here's a quote from www.unfretted.com: > One quick note: If your neck is not reinforced with a truss rod or > similar you will need to fill the frets with something like a > superglue and wood dust mix. This will stop the neck bowing under > the tension of the strings Maybe, after all, that's better then filing down the frets? per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 19 14:57:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AB0E3BEB8; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:57:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <002901c768a0$9bc4f1e0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <669A2DDB-B77E-4E2E-AC1B-E93C81AF24D8@gmail.com> <45FD2F58.3050106@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:57:07 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: "self resonating" fretleess electric guitar -- ideas? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120f3bd67f5c27774c7adfb55ca899f54102ceb2e4e89ae3807350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:57:53 +0000 (UTC) Oh people people! Please do not file the frets!! The uneven density between the wood and metal wil prevent you from ever getting a properly smoothed fingerboard. I've de-fretted bass guitars and I used a combination of maple sawdust (fine grit sandpaper was used to generate the dust, and it should be literally dust), india ink and wood glue. The india ink makes the resulting filler black. I would not recommend 'super glue', it sets up too quickly and is not a structural cement. Wood glue works perfectly. After the slots are filled, the fingerboard should be re-radiused using the proper sanding equipment. -CZ >On 18 mar 2007, at 13.23, andy butler wrote: > >>Sometimes this alters the tension in the fingerboard and the neck >>goes banana. >>(or so I hear, not actually seen this happen) > > >Here's a quote from www.unfretted.com: > >>One quick note: If your neck is not reinforced with a truss rod or >>similar you will need to fill the frets with something like a >>superglue and wood dust mix. This will stop the neck bowing under >>the tension of the strings > >Maybe, after all, that's better then filing down the frets? > >per -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 19 15:01:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DDE6D3BED9; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:01:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 11:01:00 EDT Subject: Re: "self resonating" fretleess electric guitar -- ideas? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d5f.4b7125f.332fffac_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:01:20 +0000 (UTC) --part1_d5f.4b7125f.332fffac_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/18/07 4:29:59 PM, tedkillian@charter.net writes: > I also play seated a lot -- not always but more than half the time. > > ted.....now you went and awoke the SLEEPING KIM!.....:).....thnak goodness you didn't mention your e-bow in this missive also.....yikes!.....michael www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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    I also play seated a=20= lot -- not always but more than half the time.



    ted.....now you went and awoke the SLEEPING KIM!.....:).....thnak goodnes= s you didn't mention your e-bow in this missive also.....yikes!.....michael<= BR>
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    AOL now off= ers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at htt= p://www.aol.com. --part1_d5f.4b7125f.332fffac_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 19 15:27:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B9B753BED5; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:27:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAN9I/kXUSnInk2dsb2JhbACPJwEBBw4HBh2VGQ Message-ID: <45FEABDC.5020300@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:27:24 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "self resonating" fretleess electric guitar -- ideas? References: <002901c768a0$9bc4f1e0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <669A2DDB-B77E-4E2E-AC1B-E93C81AF24D8@gmail.com> <45FD2F58.3050106@tiscali.co.uk> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 15:27:26 +0000 (UTC) Charles Zwicky wrote: > > Oh people people! Please do not file the frets!! > > The uneven density between the wood and metal wil prevent you from ever > getting a properly smoothed fingerboard. > Respect to Charles, just to share what info I have. This is just my experience with one instrument. I had the frets filed on my Fender Jazz Bass. There was no problem whatsoever with getting the fingerboard smoothed. Even though I didn't varnish the fingerboard. The left over tangs actually added a bit more edge to the sound (but I had to set the intonation on the bridge "incorrectly" to make this work). The only problem I had was with the pearl inlays. As it happens, the way Fender made that bass (in about 1976) involved forcing the frets in under more tension than usual, thus causing the neck to bow back a bit. Pulling the frets out would have been unpredictable in terms of the final shape of the neck. A popular alternative at one time (80's??) was to lightly sand the fingerboard without a sanding block after the fret filing and proper smoothing procedure. Apparently for a nice growly sound on vibratos (as long as you were dead accurate on intonation). andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 19 16:17:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A613E3BEB8; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:17:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001001c76a42$2815c690$0400a8c0@office> From: "Carabee Computerr Solutions" To: References: <493610.72069.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Introductory Looper Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 12:17:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:17:58 +0000 (UTC) > Really? I've owned lots of Digitech devices (my first > looper, in fact) and I've never had a single one break > or fail in any way. I wasn't thrilled with their > latest guitar processors, and perhaps they've gone > down hill, but I'd be careful of making blanket > statements like that. > > Mark I've got to throw my .02 in here, I'm afraid. I've had terrible results with DigiTech equipment (guitar processors) for three reasons: 1 The basic pedal activation design is inherently flawed and certain to fail over time (foot switch compresses a rubber square that then depresses the switch on the circuit board). Rubber compresses and then hardens after time and doesn't bounce back anymore.. 2 As far as the RP series goes, the pedals are so tiny and close together that you need to turn your foot on its edge to avoid hitting adjacent pedals. 3 Ridiculously long dropouts when switching between patches. Absolutely unacceptable for live performances. For those reasons alone (and there are several more) I would never invest in another DT product again until I was certain that these issues were fully addressed. Brian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 19 16:19:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79A4C3BED5; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:19:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45FEB803.9000608@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:19:15 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New #/loopchat channel on IRC (FOR NERDS!) References: <216264.16762.qm@web81313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <216264.16762.qm@web81313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9VNhl.A.HIG.Fgr_FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 16:19:17 +0000 (UTC) this is a cool idea, Mark, thanks. I'll try to hop on now and then. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > So, in the client of your choice put in > electricrain.com as your irc channel. Then type /join > #/loopchat and you'll be in. It's an experiement that > I'm not sure will work, but why not? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 19 18:50:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C3913BED9; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:50:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [69.253.214.213] Message-ID: <01e801c19354$b9622f00$1102a8c0@VAIO> From: "Steve Bowman" To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2002 00:11:59 -0400 Organization: BizClarity MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0184_01C19322.18E27530" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:50:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0184_01C19322.18E27530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe ------=_NextPart_000_0184_01C19322.18E27530 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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    ------=_NextPart_000_0184_01C19322.18E27530-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 19 18:52:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C26323BEE1; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:52:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=J+xLH8ESkp0N8tDDlXzAMKH1HG76gIdtewaKZmYXaxsAzu0+c4J99gnhxigO1CxhHucQ9c0ruyuN7VFnlYcUzRLdNr90AevILzNVqAo4nRejM7InMLazV6AO+k07xeq3+4JiJ1MB3RDLMTfOpXfRZ++qZ2/e4+8NGZTpsC8Ug6c=; X-YMail-OSG: G3ctqkwVM1lDJU_fBeUQHIqXiN6KD4Pd_FJphzdvoeH26hWRwrilHTw3d_fnJna61AjkA85N4BXPVFmjjxvFBPLX33DNjeF8M7dSMSSxY46U5Tl2czc5kjyxjUYvd6zVwifY02._9PcWsR0- Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:48:46 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: New #/loopchat channel on IRC (FOR NERDS!) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <45FEB803.9000608@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <330325.80809.qm@web81306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 18:52:08 +0000 (UTC) I'll try to log on as much as possible. I noticed someone logged in last night but no one was on. These things take time to reach critical mass. Mark --- Daryl Shawn wrote: > this is a cool idea, Mark, thanks. I'll try to hop > on now and then. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > So, in the client of your choice put in > > electricrain.com as your irc channel. Then type > /join > > #/loopchat and you'll be in. It's an experiement > that > > I'm not sure will work, but why not? > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 19 20:29:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 941D33BEC7; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:29:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Ufaas497h/KhVkjqpev+ofJ38vfgl6q4+hdfdbSdyTt6n+fxDQT9VrO6pBzCo9M2oGZmBEfneB51HW+5xlJGVugrtEP2CgdaPSppIbydgMsU3m5uQaaBOi9ViqtiFhxz/CkxRNmnPEomrhUaq2enfRkQc2KFJjhMoG9WBNyFWA8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=mpzVWSDa8lZ70wQh0w80fH1mnz8Cyh4R2GSTa7b2yUcPmHMOFVbDSCyLPr6gCjwrXaDMbykbL7OSdOdbdTN0XaMwI/i9T2wq0NCRH5hHM2RoMoH8ENZt0PR3Xp7yIO/Gb9LyT+brpKSfMX/o137LyWxnoxlUTjBPEuWqcnYbsdg= Message-ID: <9ff9c5d10703190940l50025e50t40635f61d51400cb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:40:07 -0700 From: "Nic Roozeboom" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Editing profile In-Reply-To: <011201c76a0a$f91a0e00$2302a8c0@chris> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_181574_9520765.1174322407331" References: <20070318154023.D61B43BECD@arsenic.violacea.com> <011201c76a0a$f91a0e00$2302a8c0@chris> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 20:29:20 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_181574_9520765.1174322407331 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'd like to second that question ;-). Thanks! Nic On 3/19/07, Chris@jtc.de wrote: > > I have lost my password. What can I do now to edit my profile. > Does anyone know? > Best, > Christo Jota > www.myspace.com/christojota > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 4:40 PM > Subject: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V07 #213 > > > -- Nic Roozeboom http://www.fractal-continuum.com http://www.myspace.com/fractalcontinuum http://www.myspace.com/nicroozeboom http://www.cdbaby.com/fractal http://fractal.bebo.com/ ------=_Part_181574_9520765.1174322407331 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'd like to second that question ;-). Thanks!
    Nic

    On 3/19/07, Chris@jtc.de <chris@jtc.de > wrote:
    I have lost my password. What can I do now to edit my profile.
    Does anyone know?
    Best,
    Christo Jota
    www.myspace.com/christojota

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    http://www.myspace.com/nicroozeboom
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    http://fractal.bebo.com/ ------=_Part_181574_9520765.1174322407331-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 19 21:17:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 684C53BEC5; Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:17:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ZAAuy8CZXwvV0u7Sty1tY/COIKlXnS7T+CnnySkf1Mv5+ezkR0Im0waoyOLGdkgKnEK2DBwzulZHoYfr5NJs1dhNH9tWK8cJ6e5WcT3odxj0YltZS0sJtZ152Ftax7RstHbb2waZ/sfqq75AmMDBPz8X1YDVflZr8nSc/SPUlNQ=; X-YMail-OSG: XD2.hDUVM1mw.k.EuigaL_oaLzMtfIfjVW5ismjGeH82lvK22FLe61n24RWi8VB4QImdQhQK6YS5PDdj3xIfWnq8h4L7mnjfla_4kOGVZEkpB6JHWR86RWWkDkSvDncpnhJ1aqiDp1.YkxqV5qqzpJNa2A-- Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 14:17:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Introductory Looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <001001c76a42$2815c690$0400a8c0@office> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <792044.52566.qm@web38613.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:17:09 +0000 (UTC) Yes,id second that,Digitech has perhaps great engineering but poor reliability in my experience... Luis --- Carabee Computerr Solutions wrote: > > > Really? I've owned lots of Digitech devices (my > first > > looper, in fact) and I've never had a single one > break > > or fail in any way. I wasn't thrilled with their > > latest guitar processors, and perhaps they've gone > > down hill, but I'd be careful of making blanket > > statements like that. > > > > Mark > > > I've got to throw my .02 in here, I'm afraid. I've > had terrible results with > DigiTech equipment (guitar processors) for three > reasons: > 1 The basic pedal activation design is inherently > flawed and certain to > fail over time (foot switch compresses a rubber > square that then depresses > the switch on the circuit board). Rubber compresses > and then hardens after > time and doesn't bounce back anymore.. > 2 As far as the RP series goes, the pedals are so > tiny and close together > that you need to turn your foot on its edge to avoid > hitting adjacent > pedals. > 3 Ridiculously long dropouts when switching > between patches. Absolutely > unacceptable for live performances. > > For those reasons alone (and there are several more) > I would never invest in > another DT product again until I was certain that > these issues were fully > addressed. > > Brian > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 20 02:14:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2DCC3BEC1; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=2p0gJDsiZ8mu/r4eZB0TOcM3FMFXaT54dyK+jFg+cBotNx7Opn8jAXp+pFuXOZQCyjHBpi+MkH5qpnba+6UGmQ99bfU5JdNTRnmEUmDmr1HvVAkKUv3lLbQ2TCZWSH1nZ01CXBYZ1vym5566mSTidhxMFzP/nkTYqAcmL9FlO4o=; X-YMail-OSG: NfIK4VcVM1k5ENA7_llMDXFjf1JhxfWtWh49ploPe0SfzzrcJ3wjxJH4IRQJ4ncOaN6LGVWeKA50i2iaKjl12nSLq5a_a8fC4h5OvArIwb6VBKlj0cVsa4.ps7tmObMtSxi_IaATwfQ_7qVIXyw.xQwSuQ-- Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:14:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: OT: Fender FM212 DSP For Sale To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <011201c76a0a$f91a0e00$2302a8c0@chris> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-20993674-1174356862=:95925" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <217063.95925.qm@web35114.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <_ElevC.A.d1B.DO0_FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:14:27 +0000 (UTC) --0-20993674-1174356862=:95925 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit For anyone interested, I placed my mint condition Fender FM212 DSP amp on eBay. It's in like-new condition and contains all original acessories/manuals/box/hangtags. The amp has a lot going for it at the original $399 price point ( I placed mine on eBay starting at $299 with a buy it now of $325). I just bought a Vox AD60VTX on closeout and can't justify keeping the Fender around. Regards, Paul http://cm.ebay.com/cm/ck/1065-29296-2357-0?uid=8627953&site=0&ver=LCA080805&item=180097350877&lk=URL --------------------------------- Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. --0-20993674-1174356862=:95925 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    For anyone interested, I placed my mint condition Fender FM212 DSP amp on eBay. It's in like-new condition and contains all original acessories/manuals/box/hangtags.
     
    The amp has a lot going for it at the original $399 price point ( I placed mine on eBay starting at $299 with a buy it now of $325). I just bought a Vox AD60VTX on closeout and can't justify keeping the Fender around.
     

    Get your own web address.
    Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. --0-20993674-1174356862=:95925-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 20 02:47:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B58DF3BECD; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 02:47:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "PiNG" To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , "Dark Seeds" , "Drone Deep Chill" , "Loopers Delight" , "The Ambient Way" , Subject: PiNG iNTO SPRiNG WiTH 2 PiNG EVENTS NEXT WEEK! 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 20 04:21:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A1A13BEC5; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 04:21:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 21:08:24 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: David Gans Subject: EDP for sale? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - vps.gdhour.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - trufun.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 04:21:51 +0000 (UTC) I know there were a couple of people offering EDPs for sale on the list a while back. I may have decided I'm in the market for one - anyone selling? -- David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com Web site: http://www.dgans.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 20 04:23:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F0723BECF; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 04:23:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=QL9FXR+xhUgwKZTOoiuO8hCx49z6gtXrryUvxyzq9CTLg7H0HAvLBFqYhVgRgQrDCGbwglUG8YlMzaQ6RoRu5aHO+gKiaOMxIBCsQO/42xoXCotJFLRJKYEuIUaVWOvHVXWJsbWiaLbwvewOw/q6qEwM5wVEoCF+Vl6kr94TAq4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=CjO3OJYHlWnu892ocf2hscS89XBV2BaUAOzlc0IhishC3W75LF3gLM/tmyuxLiU/Rt75GjUItOmxpxXpfqhWY4ZCwpfjrcfsdzePVdG3T8Vd8hskCW2dIYgo62E6DtKCPnls8ktuz41fFlP/5J0m6OZm7wFb0hG/F0dn+6G1CBo= Message-ID: <9e2a71240703192123h12f6d387n1e7377c49deff94c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:23:09 -0500 From: "Michael Pregeant" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: practicly untouched EDP for sale.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_156624_4073315.1174364589651" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 04:23:12 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_156624_4073315.1174364589651 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline comes with everything I got with it.. got it from guitar center about 6 months ago.. barely played it reason I'm parting ways is that I've set my eye on a Bogner Uberschall and for the amount I actually use the looper, I'd rather have the Bogner I'll take offers, but if all else fails there's always ebay.. thanks for your time -- www.myspace.com/ipwnuh4x www.myspace.com/therealannulus www.myspace.com/michaelpregeant ------=_Part_156624_4073315.1174364589651 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    comes with everything I got with it.. got it from guitar center about 6 months ago.. barely played it
     
    reason I'm parting ways is that I've set my eye on a Bogner Uberschall and for the amount I actually use the looper, I'd rather have the Bogner
     
    I'll take offers, but if all else fails there's always ebay..
    ------=_Part_156624_4073315.1174364589651-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 20 04:23:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 01A423BEB9; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 04:23:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ViFrxmdSSi5m7H8uF7mZHf704brH9tJ8L4MYFgK0ceOueKJdOO69V5na+PkunX4ZpGQNwUwG8oGS8xf/q6QrB4ekfwdUpZY9VSeS5qAJxqxOKFspkAHQ/19fbbogkyGThbv3TRgTF87cwl27oYtbhpVN7yUaTiU8wxSS4XdqPrQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=nZWQXTQpAEYWuMf8RXYoTKTIoX4yyDh957V+T/67qEyJW2NARGHYUsXhMrDJcjeIFNCPGR75uVGYoYf1yX5Ov9i500+FvexRsDkzEK523m3MDUBXnUxACss/BGcJ6EiObrMITOg12vONj5X0MBwQVi5K2uH8bIOPsCi6ALHK7MM= Message-ID: <9e2a71240703192123n557e627apf8c719897e6a195c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:23:48 -0500 From: "Michael Pregeant" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: EDP for sale? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_156632_20668208.1174364628418" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 04:23:49 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_156632_20668208.1174364628418 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline actually, I am.. practicly untouched EDP with the works.. just made a post about it actually when I saw this one :D On 3/19/07, David Gans wrote: > > > > I know there were a couple of people offering EDPs for sale on the > list a while back. > > I may have decided I'm in the market for one - anyone selling? > > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > > > -- www.myspace.com/ipwnuh4x www.myspace.com/therealannulus www.myspace.com/michaelpregeant ------=_Part_156632_20668208.1174364628418 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    actually, I am.. practicly untouched EDP with the works..
     
    just made a post about it actually when I saw this one :D

     
    On 3/19/07, David Gans <david@trufun.com> wrote:


    I know there were a couple of people offering EDPs for sale on the
    list a while back.

    I may have decided I'm in the market for one - anyone selling?




    --

    David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com
    Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730
    Blog:  http://logblog.gdhour.com
    Web site: http://www.dgans.com





    --
    www.myspace.com/ipwnuh4x

    www.myspace.com/therealannulus

    www.myspace.com/michaelpregeant ------=_Part_156632_20668208.1174364628418-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 20 05:08:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 398F83BECA; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 05:08:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: Loopers Delight From: john floridis Subject: rc50 syncing Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:08:18 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AOL-IP: 69.145.124.236 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 05:08:33 +0000 (UTC) i've been using the rc50 for some time now, but one thing i cannot seem to figureo out.... what i want to do is have three different phrases of three different lengths that can be stopped and started again simultaneously. i have tempo sync turned on on all three phrases. i seem to be able to do it easily with the first two, but when i add that last phrase, it is never in sync when i re-start. any ideas? john floridis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 20 05:09:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 727433BECC; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 05:09:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <0470EB5F-2B44-44BB-8822-E6AF0C463706@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: Loopers Delight From: john floridis Subject: ebs octave pedal Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 23:09:11 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AOL-IP: 69.145.124.236 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 05:09:16 +0000 (UTC) any of you have any experience with the ebs octave pedal? i've seen some reviews that are very positive, john floridis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 20 11:53:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8F77F3BEDF; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:53:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0F1279AF-87A6-4CC0-BFF6-FF32B7A51E77@curiomusic.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Darren Nelsen Subject: Re: rc50 syncing Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 07:53:41 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-ELNK-Trace: 4173614eae77cc41d4c20f6b8d69d8882c120543388a5fd7ec04a44a62246d6a07c5f7d5ce94e94d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.164.215.208 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 11:53:45 +0000 (UTC) I've not been able to swing this yet myself (I'm fairly new to the RC-50), but try this (page 10): http://bossus.com/manuals/RC50WS05.pdf On Mar 20, 2007, at 1:08 AM, john floridis wrote: > i've been using the rc50 for some time now, but one thing i cannot > seem to figureo out.... > what i want to do is have three different phrases of three different > lengths that can be stopped and started again simultaneously. i have > tempo sync turned on on all three phrases. i seem to be able to do > it easily with the first two, but when i add that last phrase, it is > never in sync when i re-start. > > any ideas? > > john floridis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 20 14:30:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8FD23BED5; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:30:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [69.253.214.213] Message-ID: <003801c76a97$b5ae6660$1102a8c0@VAIO> From: "Steve Bowman" To: References: Subject: EDP buying tips Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 22:23:13 -0400 Organization: BizClarity MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:30:30 +0000 (UTC) David, Hi! We met eleven years ago at that "First Annual" Deadhead Conference in upstate New York. I'll never forget that great party you spun a few tapes for that merged into a show by the Zen Tricksters. I upgraded to an EDP a few months ago and I love it! It's a very deep, very sophisticated instrument, well worth the money and time investment if you're serious about looping. It will change your music. My tip to you, and to anybody else listening, is to buy one without the standard Gibson EDP footpedal (the 7-button job) and buy a custom footpedal from British Audio with good switches installed (or get the switches replaced some other way). The switches in the Gibson are crap. Really! They go flakey within a couple months. It'll only cost you about $100 more, at the most, over retail, and it's worth it. http://www.britishaudioservice.com/ Also, make sure you get the 4.0 software. It's a huge upgrade. Looper's Delight has all the info on that. They also have a link to British Audio (which is in Illinois, not Britain--go figure!). A lot of the eBay EDP's only have ver 3. You can pay to get the upgrade, but it's easier to get one already installed. Steve Bowman Media, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Gans" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 12:08 AM Subject: EDP for sale? > > > I know there were a couple of people offering EDPs for sale on the list a > while back. > > I may have decided I'm in the market for one - anyone selling? > > > > > -- > > David Gans - david@trufun.com or david@gdhour.com > Truth and Fun, Inc., 484 Lake Park Ave. #102, Oakland CA 94610-2730 > Blog: http://logblog.gdhour.com > Web site: http://www.dgans.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 20 14:37:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1D5E3BECC; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:37:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <02de01c76afd$52af5180$e701a8c0@pcfabio> From: "Fabio Anile" To: Subject: Yamaha Tenori-On Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 15:37:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02DB_01C76B05.B441AD00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Mar 2007 14:37:45.0254 (UTC) FILETIME=[52D88460:01C76AFD] Resent-Message-ID: <2Ooc5.A.OOD.EH__FB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:37:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02DB_01C76B05.B441AD00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Simil Kaoss Pad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DMRXEx-uQR7E fabio ------=_NextPart_000_02DB_01C76B05.B441AD00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Simil Kaoss = Pad:
    http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DMRXEx-uQR7E
     
    fabio
    ------=_NextPart_000_02DB_01C76B05.B441AD00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 20 16:38:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E46F3BED3; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:38:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 09:37:31 -0700 From: "Fuller, Joshua N" Subject: Sample Dump EDP and OS X To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <4EACEBE07FEB8E49944162AE8AC2DDC50E2CDB4E@emss01m15.us.lmco.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_f4BsETO63rz2+Wh67ixlwg)" Thread-Topic: Sample Dump EDP and OS X Thread-Index: AcdrDgiRWFH1++7dTFuWZZ0Guf5ySA== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Mar 2007 16:37:32.0120 (UTC) FILETIME=[0E8D3D80:01C76B0E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:38:14 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_f4BsETO63rz2+Wh67ixlwg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Is anyone here successfully using midi sample dump w/Macintosh OS X, and if so what software are you using? Thanks, Josh --Boundary_(ID_f4BsETO63rz2+Wh67ixlwg) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

    Is anyone here successfully using midi sample dump w/Macintosh OS X, and if so what software are you using?

     

    Thanks,

    Josh

     

     

    --Boundary_(ID_f4BsETO63rz2+Wh67ixlwg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 20 19:03:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C138F3BECD; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001101c76b22$6c1516d0$4101a8c0@mini> From: "Claude Voit" To: References: <4EACEBE07FEB8E49944162AE8AC2DDC50E2CDB4E@emss01m15.us.lmco.com> Subject: Re: Sample Dump EDP and OS X Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:03:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Probably not because its midisample dump and therefore takes hours to dump anything . you can make it real time play the music-EDP record- done or play EDP loop-record on daw-done Claude Fuller, Joshua N wrote: > Is anyone here successfully using midi sample dump w/Macintosh OS X, > and if so what software are you using? > > > > Thanks, > > Josh From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 20 20:35:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A7A053BED0; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Simple EDP question Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 16:35:10 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: donearlsto@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 24126 Message-Id: <8C9394663C845A9-C64-938C@WEBMAIL-MB04.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 64.12.170.152 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: <5gAmRD.A.WGG.QWEAGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:35:28 +0000 (UTC) Hello, I used to have a Boomerang and I could start and restart a loop easily with one of the buttons, which re-initiated the recorded loop with each press. This created a "stutter" effect when used. I am sure that my EDP can do this, but haven't come across the answer yet. Any ideas? Just FYI,I am using an All Access controller. Thanks, - Donovan Stokes www.donovanstokes.com www.myspace.com/donovanstokes ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 20 20:41:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E26B3BED2; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=pGg8aOlFxWdBb2K/anliHp1ic5mRv7oZDqdsEno1wwmM8ge79cOhRCcKxvCRcuVXt44Zj4LzHQt3c+yYZrk2LSijLaJiD3O+ba0NIXBgi/+QLm222pCJSWbOd5DRmMtrLP4dr3w/RlLaV3cHztTxDHY/6TW5NnEx3CNskYY43Hg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=bIR9LSufb1BX3HEmZSER19rDFpAdxe+ZFVi2qyz9xhK+9OT+T8eL5OMwgcjNpbKMixsuYXhdu0OgEuBP+UJWtIuAWHokvJYLTJKanVbp9QUYU8MAuZuhmkJQzEAqjQNsfQNuwGy0INtQu8YarjquGz9N/HbwDr+/WGcuGl3TsyA= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 13:40:57 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Simple EDP question In-Reply-To: <8C9394663C845A9-C64-938C@WEBMAIL-MB04.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_29386_4853112.1174423257976" References: <8C9394663C845A9-C64-938C@WEBMAIL-MB04.sysops.aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:41:00 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_29386_4853112.1174423257976 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ALTERNATE ENDINGS You can also end Mute with a number of other buttons, INSERT Plays the loop once and then goes back into Mute state. again it will retrigger. Useful for stuttering effects. This ending is affected by Quantize.If Quantize=On, the played once, starting at the end of the current cycle. On 3/20/07, donearlsto@aol.com wrote: > > Hello, > I used to have a Boomerang and I could start and restart a loop easily > with one of the buttons, which re-initiated the recorded loop with each > press. This created a "stutter" effect when used. I am sure that my > EDP can do this, but haven't come across the answer yet. Any ideas? > Just FYI,I am using an All Access controller. > Thanks, > > - > Donovan Stokes > www.donovanstokes.com > www.myspace.com/donovanstokes > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at AOL.com. > > ------=_Part_29386_4853112.1174423257976 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ALTERNATE ENDINGS
    You can also end Mute with a number of other buttons,

    INSERT
    Plays the loop once and then goes back into Mute state.
    again it will retrigger. Useful for stuttering effects.
    This ending is affected by Quantize.If Quantize=On, the
    played once, starting at the end of the current cycle.

    On 3/20/07, donearlsto@aol.com <donearlsto@aol.com> wrote:
    Hello,
    I used to have a Boomerang and I could start and restart a loop easily
    with one of the buttons, which re-initiated the recorded loop with each
    press.  This created a "stutter" effect when used.  I am sure that my
    EDP can do this, but haven't come across the answer yet.  Any ideas?
    Just FYI,I am using an All Access controller.
    Thanks,

    -
    Donovan Stokes
    www.donovanstokes.com
    www.myspace.com/donovanstokes


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    ------=_Part_29386_4853112.1174423257976-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 20 20:46:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A3F2E3BED3; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:46:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: midifriedchicken@comcast.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Introductory Looper Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:46:23 +0000 Message-Id: <032020072046.5696.4600481F0002AB73000016402216549976020A050C07080C0B0A079D00070B0703@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 4 2006) X-Authenticated-Sender: bWlkaWZyaWVkY2hpY2tlbkBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_5696_1174423583_0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:46:36 +0000 (UTC) --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_5696_1174423583_0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I had a Jamman, (Ive had em' all baby!). I hated the loud CLANK everytime you used the pedal. I like the RC-20 as an entry level looper. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "L.A. Angulo" > Yes,id second that,Digitech has perhaps great > engineering but poor reliability in my experience... > Luis > > > > --- Carabee Computerr Solutions > wrote: > > > > > > Really? I've owned lots of Digitech devices (my > > first > > > looper, in fact) and I've never had a single one > > break > > > or fail in any way. I wasn't thrilled with their > > > latest guitar processors, and perhaps they've gone > > > down hill, but I'd be careful of making blanket > > > statements like that. > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > I've got to throw my .02 in here, I'm afraid. I've > > had terrible results with > > DigiTech equipment (guitar processors) for three > > reasons: > > 1 The basic pedal activation design is inherently > > flawed and certain to > > fail over time (foot switch compresses a rubber > > square that then depresses > > the switch on the circuit board). Rubber compresses > > and then hardens after > > time and doesn't bounce back anymore.. > > 2 As far as the RP series goes, the pedals are so > > tiny and close together > > that you need to turn your foot on its edge to avoid > > hitting adjacent > > pedals. > > 3 Ridiculously long dropouts when switching > > between patches. Absolutely > > unacceptable for live performances. > > > > For those reasons alone (and there are several more) > > I would never invest in > > another DT product again until I was certain that > > these issues were fully > > addressed. > > > > Brian > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________ > ____ > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time > with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news > --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_5696_1174423583_0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
     
    I had a Jamman, (Ive had em' all baby!). I hated the loud CLANK everytime you used the pedal.
    I like the RC-20 as an entry level looper.
    -------------- Original message --------------
    From: "L.A. Angulo" <labaloops@yahoo.com>

    > Yes,id second that,Digitech has perhaps great
    > engineering but poor reliability in my experience...
    > Luis
    >
    >
    >
    > --- Carabee Computerr Solutions
    > wrote:
    >
    > >
    > > > Really? I've owned lots of Digitech devices (my
    > > first
    > > > looper, in fact) and I've never had a single one
    > > break
    > > > or fail in any way. I wasn't thrilled with their
    > > > latest guitar processors, and perhaps they've gone
    > > > down hill, but I'd be careful of making blanket
    > > > statements like that.
    > > >
    > > > Mark
    > >
    > >
    > > I've got to throw my .02 in here, I'm a fraid. I've
    > > had terrible results with
    > > DigiTech equipment (guitar processors) for three
    > > reasons:
    > > 1 The basic pedal activation design is inherently
    > > flawed and certain to
    > > fail over time (foot switch compresses a rubber
    > > square that then depresses
    > > the switch on the circuit board). Rubber compresses
    > > and then hardens after
    > > time and doesn't bounce back anymore..
    > > 2 As far as the RP series goes, the pedals are so
    > > tiny and close together
    > > that you need to turn your foot on its edge to avoid
    > > hitting adjacent
    > > pedals.
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    --NextPart_Webmail_9m3u9jl4l_5696_1174423583_0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 20 21:43:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F2323BEDE; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 21:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 14:43:02 -0700 From: "Fuller, Joshua N" Subject: RE: Sample Dump EDP and OS X In-reply-to: <001101c76b22$6c1516d0$4101a8c0@mini> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <4EACEBE07FEB8E49944162AE8AC2DDC51383D816@emss01m15.us.lmco.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thread-Topic: Sample Dump EDP and OS X Thread-Index: AcdrIn77KgPg6FXITcKND43iM/YNWQAFhlRA Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: References: <4EACEBE07FEB8E49944162AE8AC2DDC50E2CDB4E@emss01m15.us.lmco.com> <001101c76b22$6c1516d0$4101a8c0@mini> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Mar 2007 21:43:05.0050 (UTC) FILETIME=[BDD45BA0:01C76B38] Resent-Message-ID: <7ZUR0C.A.0QC.JWFAGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 21:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the reply, but I am not interested in doing an additional pass of Analog to Digital conversion, and when using the handshaking method with Loop IV, transmission should not be that long using shorter loops.. -----Original Message----- From: Claude Voit [mailto:c.voit@vtx.ch] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 12:03 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sample Dump EDP and OS X Probably not because its midisample dump and therefore takes hours to dump anything . you can make it real time play the music-EDP record- done or play EDP loop-record on daw-done Claude Fuller, Joshua N wrote: > Is anyone here successfully using midi sample dump w/Macintosh OS X, > and if so what software are you using? > > > > Thanks, > > Josh From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 20 22:28:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C5AF23BEDC; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 22:28:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] Message-ID: <003b01c76b3f$23222360$4001a8c0@mini> From: "CV" To: References: <4EACEBE07FEB8E49944162AE8AC2DDC50E2CDB4E@emss01m15.us.lmco.com> <001101c76b22$6c1516d0$4101a8c0@mini> <4EACEBE07FEB8E49944162AE8AC2DDC51383D816@emss01m15.us.lmco.com> Subject: Re: Sample Dump EDP and OS X Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 23:28:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 22:28:58 +0000 (UTC) if that is your reason you are probably right, and alone to do it this way. good luck Claude Fuller, Joshua N wrote: > Thanks for the reply, but I am not interested in doing an additional > pass of Analog to Digital conversion, and when using the handshaking > method with Loop IV, transmission should not be that long using > shorter loops.. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Claude Voit [mailto:c.voit@vtx.ch] > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 12:03 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Sample Dump EDP and OS X > > Probably not because its midisample dump and therefore takes hours to > dump anything . > you can make it real time > play the music-EDP record- done > or > play EDP loop-record on daw-done > > Claude > > Fuller, Joshua N wrote: >> Is anyone here successfully using midi sample dump w/Macintosh OS X, >> and if so what software are you using? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Josh From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 20 23:12:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6A6173BED6; Tue, 20 Mar 2007 23:12:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Anthony Mitchell" To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:12:08 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0085_01C76B99.008C46F0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcdrRS5fqTf9ubCXTOaP4jCbTNhJCQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Disposition-Notification-To: "Anthony Mitchell" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 23:12:09 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0085_01C76B99.008C46F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe ------=_NextPart_000_0085_01C76B99.008C46F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:31:39 +0000 (UTC) It was a forum! I check quite a few forums on a regular basis. I love loopers delight but I hate getting so many email everyday, would really prerfer to have a simple forum and would most likely check it on a daily basis. This is the only email list I am on, everything else that is similar is all forum based. I think its the way to fly. Plus I find it easier to get to know people because of PM's and avatars and stuff like that (ie oh its the guy with the cat avatar again, hes got 500 post, he knows what he is talking about, in a sig is a link to his music, etc). Who's with me? I am sure one of you guys could set up a forum. Email lists are old school. -Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 02:36:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 04AF33BECD; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:36:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Anthony Mitchell" To: Subject: RE: LD would be so much cooler if... Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:36:21 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acdro54eKSOZ4L8MQwamnQtWOrXhOgAQfbtA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Disposition-Notification-To: "Anthony Mitchell" Resent-Message-ID: <0y-z5C.A.pF.loJAGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:36:21 +0000 (UTC) Yeh take me off as well...there are way to many emails... -----Original Message----- From: Mark Trewella [mailto:aleatoric12@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:32 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: LD would be so much cooler if... It was a forum! I check quite a few forums on a regular basis. I love loopers delight but I hate getting so many email everyday, would really prerfer to have a simple forum and would most likely check it on a daily basis. This is the only email list I am on, everything else that is similar is all forum based. I think its the way to fly. Plus I find it easier to get to know people because of PM's and avatars and stuff like that (ie oh its the guy with the cat avatar again, hes got 500 post, he knows what he is talking about, in a sig is a link to his music, etc). Who's with me? I am sure one of you guys could set up a forum. Email lists are old school. -Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 02:46:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E1F83BED9; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:46:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CVCMi+wr7HY+5btGxzfJhHlxWn6dRijMo1a45bx1Xu4IXx0lSPqeGZcY22IvnylAI5bKhFchUi+qNkgJYIScMnk8lAhr8zY0N4YXDwcrv9Yqk27K5hPgv2XuZCxdCxevvrlMvrh1ozeQvV014tjAWZ8h/DLjGB/OsC/GikLCfus= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=CjQ0StzyZqd6Ge1JkZ0Vek36W/77oUFTxhzMdgF/oWDbhXpszemGU6GeJBVhFgH91IxmJDTBeKSi6AycgmO0TsSC4fuGs5o+wMIFXy5xcG3Gp4E8AB7TE7+GLEe6yvPUR1eA9Sm7oykcVYWio97s6HAGNdkTos8jmlSki+wUJ5I= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 22:46:03 -0400 From: "Mark Trewella" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LD would be so much cooler if... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: <-GA4iC.A.3l.uxJAGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:46:06 +0000 (UTC) I don't want to unsubscribe but a forum would be honestly a lot easier. I have been off and on the list for years. The only reason I ever leave is because of the email overload. On 3/20/07, Anthony Mitchell wrote: > Yeh take me off as well...there are way to many emails... > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Trewella [mailto:aleatoric12@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:32 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: LD would be so much cooler if... > > It was a forum! I check quite a few forums on a regular basis. I > love loopers delight but I hate getting so many email everyday, would > really prerfer to have a simple forum and would most likely check it > on a daily basis. This is the only email list I am on, everything > else that is similar is all forum based. I think its the way to fly. > Plus I find it easier to get to know people because of PM's and > avatars and stuff like that (ie oh its the guy with the cat avatar > again, hes got 500 post, he knows what he is talking about, in a sig > is a link to his music, etc). Who's with me? I am sure one of you > guys could set up a forum. Email lists are old school. > > -Mark > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 02:52:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91D693BEDB; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:52:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <96ff5a6c66d62a48684b2a42f1a36bc8@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: LD would be so much cooler if... Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 19:52:08 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:52:24 +0000 (UTC) Hmmmm, LD is just fine the way it is (IMOHO). But then again, I'm old school about a lot of other things too. With the thing loading up my mailbox every day with odd posts on all sorts of subjects it reminds me you are all here on a daily basis -- like I might forget or something. It's sort of pro-active, it reaches out (whether you want it or not) and has become the community it has because of how it works . . . I think. If it just sat there and waited for us all to log in, it might not be nearly so lively at times (though, honestly, sometimes it can be a big snore). And besides, don't go waking the sleeping Kim (our host/non-moderator). He night just decide the whole thing is too much trouble (after 10+ years) decide to retire and shut it down. Don't mess with something that works just fine as it is. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Best regards, Ted Killian On Mar 20, 2007, at 6:31 PM, Mark Trewella wrote: > Email lists are old school. > > -Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 02:56:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F7233BED2; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:56:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hQAeWAANr5CdnfnviB2NZvmfx4qd4xQvu3d9FcqL7tqDNlr4c/RyKQrW2iAeSshR5Xt10tXCdPoViRviHAX58oIgNmUDKN73bcAWmW/afReY6YODZ3h6WznMExyS6ZnikWNr0L65JfpHhmuPjKY/hzsK9y8UnLSqDaPRruD0tNE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=rXxEUno3b4EdViRzvLoWLaQbXLTe+m6ML4nv+jfKlI3GdpmPw6tROjgxeXSnLcPUfqiH4ubw6H3U7xmqoTfZSzh8bkc7OOr8G+gcmtG9xDODoQ4ufR9ddlriI1ze+d2EYtafdN92G9HX6CIWEFjupjtANx0GkQ+uQiEy2ImZnjE= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 22:56:04 -0400 From: "Mark Trewella" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LD would be so much cooler if... In-Reply-To: <96ff5a6c66d62a48684b2a42f1a36bc8@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <96ff5a6c66d62a48684b2a42f1a36bc8@charter.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:56:07 +0000 (UTC) I think it would be pretty lively as a forum. Lots of peeps unsubscribe all the time, people are weary of email lists but lots of looping folks would probably pop by an active forum a lot. On 3/20/07, tEd (r) kiLLiAn wrote: > Hmmmm, > > LD is just fine the way it is (IMOHO). > > But then again, I'm old school about a lot of other things too. > > With the thing loading up my mailbox every day with odd posts on all > sorts of subjects it reminds me you are all here on a daily basis -- > like I might forget or something. > > It's sort of pro-active, it reaches out (whether you want it or not) > and has become the community it has because of how it works . . . I > think. > > If it just sat there and waited for us all to log in, it might not be > nearly so lively at times (though, honestly, sometimes it can be a big > snore). > > And besides, don't go waking the sleeping Kim (our host/non-moderator). > > He night just decide the whole thing is too much trouble (after 10+ > years) decide to retire and shut it down. > > Don't mess with something that works just fine as it is. > > If it ain't broke, don't fix it. > > Best regards, > > Ted Killian > > On Mar 20, 2007, at 6:31 PM, Mark Trewella wrote: > > > Email lists are old school. > > > > -Mark > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 02:59:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1CBF83BEDE; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:59:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <46009F7C.4060204@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 20:59:08 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LD would be so much cooler if... References: <96ff5a6c66d62a48684b2a42f1a36bc8@charter.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 02:59:12 +0000 (UTC) This topic has come up countless times, and, simply, LD is not going to to change (check the archives for as much amusement as you can stand). The best thing is just to make sure to set your subscription to digest, or read it online. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > I think it would be pretty lively as a forum. Lots of peeps > unsubscribe all the time, people are weary of email lists but lots of > looping folks would probably pop by an active forum a lot. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 03:10:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7748F3BED6; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 03:10:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2007 23:10:32 -0400 From: Domenick Swentosky Subject: Decibal loss, DI Box, and ABY Box To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <4600A228.2030905@greytime.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 000726-0, 03/20/2007), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317) Resent-Message-ID: <1iZ9V.A.H9B.tIKAGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 03:10:38 +0000 (UTC) Hello all: I've asked around about this issue a little, but can't seem to get a good answer, so I thought I'd ask the experts. Here's my problem: I'm experiencing a 5-10 db loss from the _XLR out_ of my DI box (Whirlwind IMP2) when I select the channel on my ABY box (Whirlwind Selector) opposite the one that the 1/4" out on the DI box is feeding. Got that? :) A little more info: I loop both my guitar and vocals, and I use the ABY box to choose which signal will be fed into the Loop Station. The guitar signal chain is as follows: LRBaggs Element ----> Aura -----> Boss CE5 -----> IMP2 (DI Box). From here the Guitar signal splits. The XLR out of the IMP2 goes to the board, and the 1/4" out of the IMP2 goes to the A channel of the ABY box. So again, when I select the B channel on the ABY box, I get a 5-10 db loss on the _XLR Out_ of the IMP2. This just makes no sense to me. I emailed Whirlwind and got this response: "This is because the output that is not selected is being shorted. I'm surprised that the drop is only 5 or 6 dB." I asked for a bitter more in depth explanation and got this: "Basically when A is selected Bis shorted from tip to ground muting that channel.You cannot use the selector for what you are trying to do." I asked if they made any products that could help and got this: "I do not have a good suggestion for this purpose." As you can see, Whirlwind's tech support guy was in a hurry. So I'm just left scratching my head here. Can anyone help me out? Why's this happening? How can I fix it? Thanks for taking the time to read this. Enjoy the day. Domenick Swentosky From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 05:01:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 976AF3BEE0; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 05:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "Woz Mail" To: Subject: RE: LD would be so much cooler if... Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:59:35 +1100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 05:01:39 +0000 (UTC) I reckon a forum would be a great way to go. It would also have the added benefit of having different sections so we wouldn't be flooded with Off Topic emails which would be great for those who want to avoid them and even better for those who revel in them. It is definately a way more modern approach and hey, aren't we suppose to be cutting edge? Cheers Woz -----Original Message----- From: Mark Trewella [mailto:aleatoric12@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 1:32 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: LD would be so much cooler if... It was a forum! I check quite a few forums on a regular basis. I love loopers delight but I hate getting so many email everyday, would really prerfer to have a simple forum and would most likely check it on a daily basis. This is the only email list I am on, everything else that is similar is all forum based. I think its the way to fly. Plus I find it easier to get to know people because of PM's and avatars and stuff like that (ie oh its the guy with the cat avatar again, hes got 500 post, he knows what he is talking about, in a sig is a link to his music, etc). Who's with me? I am sure one of you guys could set up a forum. Email lists are old school. -Mark -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.11/723 - Release Date: 3/15/2007 11:27 AM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 05:05:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10C1D3BEE1; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 05:05:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 01:03:25 -0400 (EDT) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LD would be so much cooler if... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 05:05:10 +0000 (UTC) On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, Mark Trewella wrote: > It was a forum! I check quite a few forums on a regular basis. I [snip] > is a link to his music, etc). Who's with me? I am sure one of you > guys could set up a forum. Email lists are old school. > > -Mark So, set up a forum with all the features you like and see who shows up. Personally, I like email, I like mail lists, and I don't always consider "old school" to be a negative. regards, Steve B Subscape Annex http://www.subscapeannex.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 05:38:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08E073BEDC; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 05:38:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <002d01c76b7b$286a6800$0400a8c0@office> From: "BC" To: References: Subject: Re: LD would be so much cooler if... Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 01:38:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 05:38:27 +0000 (UTC) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Trewella" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 10:46 PM Subject: Re: LD would be so much cooler if... >I don't want to unsubscribe but a forum would be honestly a lot > easier. I have been off and on the list for years. The only reason I > ever leave is because of the email overload. I belong to a couple of lists, and I find that they're easily handled by creating a new folder in the Inbox and then creating message rules that toss all LD mail into that folder. Works like a charm. Brian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 09:07:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 750E83BEDF; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:07:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAAiTAEbUSnIvk2dsb2JhbACPKAEBAQEHDgcGHZVR Message-ID: <4600F5F6.6020106@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:08:06 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Simple EDP question References: <8C9394663C845A9-C64-938C@WEBMAIL-MB04.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8C9394663C845A9-C64-938C@WEBMAIL-MB04.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:07:59 +0000 (UTC) donearlsto@aol.com wrote: > Hello, > I used to have a Boomerang and I could start and restart a loop easily > with one of the buttons, which re-initiated the recorded loop with each > press. This created a "stutter" effect when used. I am sure that my > EDP can do this, but haven't come across the answer yet. Any ideas? > Just FYI,I am using an All Access controller. > Thanks, > > - > Donovan Stokes Like Trevor says, once you've hi Mute, you can always do this with the "Insert" button. Easiest way is to set MoreLoops=1, then the NextLoop button magically transforms into the re-trigger button that you want. Otherwise, there's a number of DirectMidi commands:- "Retrigger" is a good one :-) andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 09:11:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 03C5F3BEDD; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:11:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAPiTAEbUSnIM/2dsb2JhbAClOw Message-ID: <4600F6CC.4040802@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:11:40 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sample Dump EDP and OS X References: <4EACEBE07FEB8E49944162AE8AC2DDC50E2CDB4E@emss01m15.us.lmco.com> <001101c76b22$6c1516d0$4101a8c0@mini> <4EACEBE07FEB8E49944162AE8AC2DDC51383D816@emss01m15.us.lmco.com> In-Reply-To: <4EACEBE07FEB8E49944162AE8AC2DDC51383D816@emss01m15.us.lmco.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Scanned with ClamAV Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:11:35 +0000 (UTC) Fuller, Joshua N wrote: > Thanks for the reply, but I am not interested in doing an additional > pass of Analog to Digital conversion, and when using the handshaking > method with Loop IV, transmission should not be that long using shorter > loops.. > The EDP sample rate is 41000Hz. So doing another DA/AD conversion isn't so bad, as it avoids SRC. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 09:29:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 630E23BED8; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:29:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: 21 Mar 2007 10:29:40 +0100 Message-ID: <32431.62.2.75.66.1174469380.squirrel@webmail.perspectix.com> From: "Bernhard Wagner LD" Reply-To: loopdelightml-NDI3MDE=-@bernhardwagner.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4600F6CC.4040802@tiscali.co.uk> References: <4EACEBE07FEB8E49944162AE8AC2DDC50E2CDB4E@emss01m15.us.lmco.com> <001101c76b22$6c1516d0$4101a8c0@mini> <4EACEBE07FEB8E49944162AE8AC2DDC51383D816@emss01m15.us.lmco.com> <4600F6CC.4040802@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: Sample Dump EDP and OS X User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:29:41 +0000 (UTC) >> > > The EDP sample rate is 41000Hz. I object, your honour ;), according to: http://www.gibsonechoplex.com/ it is: 41.5 kHz (41500Hz) Bernhard From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 11:22:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8E7513BEDB; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:22:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Donearlsto@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 07:21:56 EDT Subject: Re: Simple EDP question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1174476116" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5359 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:22:06 +0000 (UTC) -------------------------------1174476116 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/21/2007 5:08:05 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, akbutler@tiscali.co.uk writes: "Retrigger" is a good one :-) HA!! Thanks! D Dr. Donovan Stokes _www.donovanstokes.com_ (http://www.donovanstokes.com/) _www.myspace.com/donovanstokes_ (http://www.myspace.com/donovanstokes) ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. -------------------------------1174476116 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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    -------------------------------1174476116-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 11:59:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B0563BEDF; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:59:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [90.196.3.102] X-Originating-Email: [simeonharris@hotmail.com] X-Sender: simeonharris@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <002d01c76b7b$286a6800$0400a8c0@office> From: "simeon harris" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LD would be so much cooler if... Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:59:26 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Mar 2007 11:59:29.0583 (UTC) FILETIME=[6165DBF0:01C76BB0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:59:31 +0000 (UTC) if it was a forum? nick robinson created a looping forum here... http://looping.20.forumer.com/ it's been very quiet though...why not pop over and have a look? the topic of whether LD should be a forum has come up several times before, if memory serves...and there seems to be a pretty even split of opinion...! sim http://www.simeonharris.co.uk _________________________________________________________________ Txt a lot? Get Messenger FREE on your mobile. https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 12:33:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E81D3BEE1; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:33:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 472305971 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C76BB5.2FCFEFA3" Subject: RE: LD would be so much cooler if... Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:30:33 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A720204DD62@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: LD would be so much cooler if... Thread-Index: AcdrtLhJiotoQoaaThulGYyA+HkzXQ== References: <002d01c76b7b$286a6800$0400a8c0@office> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Mar 2007 12:33:53.0891 (UTC) FILETIME=[2FD24330:01C76BB5] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:33:56 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C76BB5.2FCFEFA3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't mean to be rude or anything. well, actually I do. to the folks who've just popped up out of nowhere, without an on-topic = post to their names, asking to switch LD to a forum- might I suggest you go start a forum someplace else & leave us alone? = we're (generally speaking) perfectly happy like this. if we weren't, = we'd change it. that's the sort of people we are, & you'd know this if = you read a few posts. duncan. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C76BB5.2FCFEFA3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: LD would be so much cooler if...

    I don't mean to be rude or anything. well, actually I = do.

    to the folks who've just popped up out of nowhere, without an on-topic = post to their names, asking to switch LD to a forum-
    might I suggest you go start a forum someplace else & leave us = alone? we're (generally speaking) perfectly happy like this. if we = weren't, we'd change it. that's the sort of people we are, & you'd = know this if you read a few posts.

    duncan.

    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C76BB5.2FCFEFA3-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 12:49:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B8A8E3BEEC; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:49:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:MIME-Version:From:Subject:Date:Importance:X-Priority:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type; b=nPiZZHq4QioBU75TOAbXO5gXgVWsRmzeXwom+zYEGhYtO6MzIhSkrJ3/0YzNit1mROr8WdIcDTyUMwAVcVV243BUTax8qikrFIXn/GFCDZK9UJMYOaSiR29m76V4RuKYJVD0/AOEJqa+P8lR+wm9KT29S+yJpf/09LhoCNYP1QY= ; X-YMail-OSG: cgiKiL8VM1nK6mUAgVthtnma7DJ7twoHxg7OkAcee1lVQoAm8qa3tmdxL9ii1r2iafd1JV4F_208Bvj332HFWqp2Fda_gTlxBi6CGufElpoGCBWmQMC4wp1AU.wfnvo.r.YC.5Nycl6EKS4- MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Murkie Subject: RE: LD would be so much cooler if... Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:49:15 -0500 Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: <20070321124907.E68D93BEDD@arsenic.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:49:08 +0000 (UTC) Going to a forum format pretty much killed the David Torn list. =20 It's probably because I'm lazy but I like having the info come to me. Then= again, LD has done more to fuel my Gear Acquisition Syndrome than anything= else. Maybe I'd save money if it didn't come looking for me. "Pssst! He= y kid - check out these new Kaoss Pads. Just try one. Everybody else is." 8^{/} M www.TwistedAppleRecords.com=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 13:54:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80E423BEE2; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:54:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00c101c76bc0$6d882400$98b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: LD would be so much cooler if... Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 07:54:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:54:25 +0000 (UTC) And don't forget the LoopMusic forum, which I manage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LoopMusic (186 members) However, I may retire this forum, as we've only had 10 messages since the beginning of the year.....everyone consider this when you decide to setup a new forum dedicated to looping. Creating one with all the features you think are cool is one thing; getting people to sign up and participate is another thing. To date, LD is still the king of the castle (of looping forums). You have to operate in the shadow of LD, unless you think you can build something so unbelievably attractive that folks will jump ship. Here where I work, we operate by what we call the 80/20 rule. If you can meet 80% of the needs, then that's sufficient....there's a lot of talk about new features and ways to run a list/group/forum about looping, but unless they are a "must have", I don't think much is going to change in terms of user migration. LD ain't perfect, but what is? I'd say just suck it up. Deal with it or get the f*ck out. :) Hah hah. Kris From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 14:03:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E31E3BEDD; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:01:45 -0400 (EDT) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LD would be so much cooler if... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:03:37 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, burnett@pobox.com wrote: > On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, Mark Trewella wrote: >> It was a forum! I check quite a few forums on a regular basis. I Mark and other forum-format aficionados: I would suggest that you might consider using the Loopers Delight mail list archives Web interface http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/wilma/LDarchive#browse and the "browse by thread" view as potentially solving much of the issues you express a web forum as better for you than the mailling list format. Just an idea, give it a try. best, Steve B Subscape Annex http://www.subscapeannex.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 14:29:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 67B3C3BEE8; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:29:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: ron Subject: RE: LD would be so much cooler if... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Mirapoint Webmail Direct 3.7.5a-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----8db82ea168604df40527f51841903da5" Message-Id: <20070321102857.CYK73533@ms02.lnh.mail.rcn.net> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:28:57 -0400 (EDT) X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:29:00 +0000 (UTC) -------8db82ea168604df40527f51841903da5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit likewise... push it to me, I am too lazy to go to the forum, unless I am searching. I also place into an incoming folder. R ---- Original message ---- Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:49:15 -0500 From: Murkie Subject: RE: LD would be so much cooler if... To: >Going to a forum format pretty much killed the David Torn list. > >It's probably because I'm lazy but I like having the info come to me. Then again, LD has done more to fuel my Gear Acquisition Syndrome than anything else. Maybe I'd save money if it didn't come looking for me. "Pssst! Hey kid - check out these new Kaoss Pads. Just try one. Everybody else is." > >8^{/} > >M > >www.TwistedAppleRecords.com > -------8db82ea168604df40527f51841903da5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit likewise...  push it to me, I am too lazy to go to the forum, unless I am searching.

    I also place into an incoming folder.

    R

    ---- Original message ----
    Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 08:49:15 -0500
    From: Murkie <sinister_footwear@yahoo.com>
    Subject: RE: LD would be so much cooler if...
    To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>

    >Going to a forum format pretty much killed the David Torn list.
    >
    >It's probably because I'm lazy but I like having the info come to me. Then again, LD has done more to fuel my Gear Acquisition Syndrome than anything else. Maybe I'd save money if it didn't come looking for me. "Pssst! Hey kid - check out these new Kaoss Pads. Just try one. Everybody else is."
    >
    >8^{/}
    >
    >M
    >
    >www.TwistedAppleRecords.com
    >
    -------8db82ea168604df40527f51841903da5-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 14:31:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5ADA3BEEE; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:31:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=EVOdq5D2b2pSUI/mZaDSjmJ1vM9jk3Xy62S4D4tsdDEg1cCXoXV9rK58X9esAK8OTOAdjXkD8nicwvW9PhxF3Xrck8DHPSeqLinRCluA89yG7bEV0xTTIr9qrlJmIcMKkmX81PwrF5KhOfMGMAHsPtnTfGsI/tAaDxOGHx3wnTU= ; Message-ID: <20070321143100.70891.qmail@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: NaF7R9MVM1n0XcOFd2U8U7UMrnk5ZILVP9vWlbJZ6J3W1_3FBs_YDLcI1L0OxFGScrMCdIqMJhSpAJ3xOQH7Qm6NWdTcU2A10wJ3pK8vhmUktX3UHY552wjOPIJ41hLw5in3QET_464zjE4- Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 07:31:00 -0700 (PDT) From: S V G Subject: SBD Music, Inc Acquires Electrix Pro, Inc To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20070321115931.248873BEE4@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:31:06 +0000 (UTC) Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just sayin... FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Adam Scolaro SBD Music, Inc. Phone: (800) 981-4531 X-701 Fax: (949) 462-3062 E-mail: adams@electrixpro.com Laguna Hills, California (March 19, 2007) – Newly formed SBD Music, Inc., based in Laguna Hills, Calif., has acquired Electrix Pro, Inc., a leader in manufacturing professional audio equipment. SBD Music, Inc. also announces they have appointed a board of directors consisting of Mark Buhler, Charles Dotson and Adam Scolaro. “We saw a tremendous opportunity to acquire a very well respected brand name in Electrix. We are planning to re-introduce new versions of the Electrix products over the next twelve to twenty four months”, says Adam Scolaro, president of SBD Music, Inc. “We are going to continue manufacturing high quality products that Electrix is known for, and try to build and expand the product line”, added Mark Buhler. from the ElectrixPro website ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 14:52:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5095D3BEF5; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:52:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAPTiAEbUSnInk2dsb2JhbACMBIMjAQEBAQcOBwYdlVs Message-ID: <46014698.1000409@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:52:08 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LD would be so much cooler if... References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:52:00 +0000 (UTC) burnett@pobox.com wrote: > On Wed, 21 Mar 2007, burnett@pobox.com wrote: > >> On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, Mark Trewella wrote: >>> It was a forum! I check quite a few forums on a regular basis. I > > Mark and other forum-format aficionados: > > I would suggest that you might consider using the Loopers Delight mail > list archives Web interface > > http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/wilma/LDarchive#browse > > and the "browse by thread" view as potentially solving much of the > issues you express a web forum as better for you than the mailling list > format. Just an idea, give it a try. Unfortunately, though, it's not possible to participate without receiving all those mails:-( Making a filter for email messages is not difficult, even if you never did it before. All you need is a filter that checks if your incoming message is from LD, and puts it in mail folder called "LD". Whatever your email software, surely it has menus and stuff that make this possible. Probably take less time to check it out than writing an email. Some email browsers will even show you the mails by Thread in a nice tree diagram thing. Then you only have to read the mails you want to. ...and actually, you could auto-delete the LD mails, and just read the archive. So, maybe it's possible for Forum fans to enjoy all those Forum advantages without worrying the rest of us :-) oh, and something I never realized for years. Using the Digest version of the doesn't allow correct threading in the archive. Avoid if possible. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 15:11:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1E123BEEE; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:11:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAGLoAEbUSnIvk2dsb2JhbACMBIMjAQEBAQcOBwYdlVE Message-ID: <46014B35.4020309@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:11:49 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: SBD Music, Inc Acquires Electrix Pro, Inc References: <20070321143100.70891.qmail@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20070321143100.70891.qmail@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3X5oND.A.Y5C.5sUAGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:11:53 +0000 (UTC) S V G wrote: > Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just sayin... > blindfold? .....just askin... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 15:52:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5CFC3BEEC; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:52:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:52:36 EDT Subject: tape op in europe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c68.e4bc728.3332aec4_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:52:47 +0000 (UTC) --part1_c68.e4bc728.3332aec4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the wonderful mag. TAPE OP is now available in europe and it's still free (circulation@tapeop.com).....good stuff and the price is more than right!.....also here is a site that they mentioned that might be of interest www.zizzle.com.....go to "products" and they have a kidz looping lite show device that got a nice write-up in this issue.....michael www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. --part1_c68.e4bc728.3332aec4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable the wonderful mag. 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    AOL now off= ers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at htt= p://www.aol.com. --part1_c68.e4bc728.3332aec4_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 16:20:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B6E03BEEE; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:20:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.45.251] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20070321115932.36B533BEE1@arsenic.violacea.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: LD'd be cooler if.. Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:20:39 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Mar 2007 16:20:42.0809 (UTC) FILETIME=[DF5E5A90:01C76BD4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:20:44 +0000 (UTC) Folks would trim their responses,so we don't have wade through a thicket of > > > > and the same previous texts over and over . That would make each digest page scannable. _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE Web site, company branded e-mail and more from Microsoft Office Live! http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 16:26:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B30F3BEF3; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:26:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00fe01c76bd5$a9a24aa0$98b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: FYI: Expert sleepers has released version 3.0.1 of Crossfade Loop Synth Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:26:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00FB_01C76BA3.5E1F7670" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:26:25 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00FB_01C76BA3.5E1F7670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.kvraudio.com/news/6942.html Expert sleepers has released version 3.0.1 of Crossfade Loop Synth for = Mac OS X Universal Binary in VST and Audio Units formats. >From version 3, Crossfade Loop Synth is actually two plug-ins: Crossfade = Loop Synth and Crossfade Loop Synth Effect. The effect version takes the = power of Crossfade Loop Synth and turns it into a live sampler, a looper = and a very unusual and powerful delay effect. Version 3 is a major = upgrade from version 2, adding many powerful means of shaping your = sound, whilst maintaining the simplicity and CPU efficiency that made = version 2 so popular. Crossfade Loop Synth Crossfade Loop Synth is at heart a simple sample playback synth = plug-in. It plays samples in the classic sampler manner - by simply = altering the playback speed according to the desired note. No fancy = time-stretching or pitch-shifting is applied. You can control how the = sample is looped as it is played. An adjustable amount of crossfade can = be applied to the loop endpoints to smooth the transitions. This makes = it extremely easy to produce glitch-free pad sounds. The loops can also = be played backwards and alternately forwards and backwards = (pendulum-style). Further sound processing can be applied in the form of = overdrive/saturation, filtering, envelopes (for amplitude and filter), = pulse-width modulation, oscillator sync and LFOs (one each for filter, = pitch, PWM and sync). The synth is 32 note polyphonic, and all parameters can be controlled = by MIDI controllers. Crossfade Loop Synth Effect Crossfade Loop Synth Effect is the same as Crossfade Loop Synth except = you can record live audio to use as the sample, rather than just loading = it from disk. You can record continuously, even while playing back. This = allows you to use the plugin as an unusual and creative delay effect. = For example you can have the delays played back at double the = pitch/speed you played them. Or at double the pitch and backwards. Or as = a chord. Or repeat the first beat of every bar, etc. You can save the recorded sample to disk as an AIFF file for later = use. 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    ------=_NextPart_000_00FB_01C76BA3.5E1F7670-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 17:44:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9C2E3BEE4; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=EiSNv8v78wgoC2Psjd6dV4RCsgPnVmkzm/9MRfcIJkI30PWKRAQrrqu2LHsklrc0fIls9kndsN9YfhujSMcVndmeLErPTqFV9gXDUYzMTg+R+5hY0hgFEfaosLNmFVHuKxAMxUNPjvA/ctjlbRNKA0oC7nENGuVEY1IORp4C6Fc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=e/vgeaVwyFj1Fbmy75XiXHvRwhVK20ZNJKfQJIQc1CAdILRs/gcQomkGJmCoSuqXJL/BbJu5yCAnnbiYNbWibz4nIAHWnSH3LjSHpyHrzl1Hl+SMqBS5n2Xec3DQ/fTnrrBq92aGTqLTopyotxqw4krTH0+lG4oVL79iKBb3FRk= In-Reply-To: <00fe01c76bd5$a9a24aa0$98b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <00fe01c76bd5$a9a24aa0$98b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: fretless guitar looping Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:44:35 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I'd like to thank everyone on the list that helped me with advice on reshaping my Telecaster into a fretless guitar aimed at looping. I took away the frets, filled the slots with "plastic padding chemical wood", planed the fingerboard, trimmed the nut (much lower setting for fretless) and put on 013-056 stainless flat wound jazz strings. I'm delighted with this new instrument! Recorded the first test run, guitar lined directly into laptop: http://www.looproom.com/audio/CamelRideSlumber.mp3 I imagine this guitar will be awesome to play with the Sustaniac system I have incoming :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 17:52:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6D12E3BEEE; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:52:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, "Mark Trewella" Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:52:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: forum - was LD would be so much cooler if... Reply-To: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <460170D8.9482.1CDCC37@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.31) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:52:54 +0000 (UTC) On 20 Mar 2007 at 22:46, Mark Trewella wrote: > I don't want to unsubscribe but a forum would be honestly a lot > easier. I have been off and on the list for years. The only reason I > ever leave is because of the email overload. I use the digest form, but would prefer a "daily digest" instead of several day with 3 messages in each. That said, it's a list I wouldn't be without - there are so many great urls & knowledge to be had. A few months ago I set up a looping forum to offer that side of things - I'm sure there is room for both a suitable forum *and* a list. It's there for those who can't or don't wish to deal with mailing lists and whilst I've found other forums (forii?) they didn't quite offer what I wanted. It's at http://looping.20.forumer.com If anyone *does* sign up, please send a message or three to get some momentum started ;) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 17:53:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A9E6A3BEF1; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:53:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [216.113.128.239] X-Identified-User: {864:box76.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:webmail from 216.113.128.239} Message-ID: <20070321125313.oeid3xdeoggs80o0@69.89.21.76> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:53:13 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: fretless guitar looping References: <00fe01c76bd5$a9a24aa0$98b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:53:16 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Per Boysen : > > http://www.looproom.com/audio/CamelRideSlumber.mp3 > Per, Great sounds. Enjoyed this. Thanks! -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 17:58:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B328B3BEFA; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:58:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=IO9mJM6A4YwrwmFz0JitvHXYP03eFEAt1d11cJEzCSaGREwjuEOXFwnJ1Sd4vrajJlQ8IA9U6495+bu+/LpsHqTagoYw1AeFSS/dGug9NWemTbbl2768QTr26/VZVKmX91aLbtT1WJGrnDdk7mRGHIbjjETXQMdhLeBxs/1Qi6A=; X-YMail-OSG: CrhGGBsVM1kwl33MyqGWgH.zZ9klsvj4OPv4BliWljF9yzcESZUVPmQCb.hRb..tTg-- Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:58:03 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: The Word is Out! Sell Your EDP's! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <793916.18438.qm@web35104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <956899.41458.qm@web81310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:58:05 +0000 (UTC) Is that Danny Partridge with a Digitech Jamman? --- Paul Richards wrote: > > http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=255175&cache=1 > > > --------------------------------- > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and > always stay connected to friends. ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 17:59:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C47513BEFA; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:59:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=CwSzzXCmm59c4uA6wIoiDRIQYL6Z26lzeiIqR0I+PBX56jmAL4yxPA2cLNEiud1kxJ7LVu+JjHmanzWm/Gb4SHFkfnd/2TdCUbReRBWyzmJlQwmU5Czk8z2+Apic7OlR4avkwYhW4crxLNLELE3fqyRz9GkppNM5KjYTlWRD2dY=; X-YMail-OSG: 0PJoPPQVM1kkGVYiapwCNYYsYXPU9b5DG3YzG22ybOLpPr38rM6ocw1T2YkQyN7IWIbGGkwgYfZ5SJuKvmSsSJwJh3IKOE7n4Eq9WIiElOZ01YvFYm6J7T8HJb7yr3sATA2CMcx.kaqlNmZ5T2DGazMaHQ-- Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 10:59:12 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: LD would be so much cooler if... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <657948.86819.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:59:13 +0000 (UTC) We've been through this before but it was nixed. I personally agree adn like the idea of a LD forum instead but it seems not to be in the cards. Mark --- Mark Trewella wrote: > It was a forum! I check quite a few forums on a > regular basis. I > love loopers delight but I hate getting so many > email everyday, would > really prerfer to have a simple forum and would most > likely check it > on a daily basis. This is the only email list I am > on, everything > else that is similar is all forum based. I think > its the way to fly. > Plus I find it easier to get to know people because > of PM's and > avatars and stuff like that (ie oh its the guy with > the cat avatar > again, hes got 500 post, he knows what he is talking > about, in a sig > is a link to his music, etc). Who's with me? I am > sure one of you > guys could set up a forum. Email lists are old > school. > > -Mark > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 18:01:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10A733BF01; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:01:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=jMGWk1YEJUCqSdvveBHFx2vfobr+zvqxFDAs/LKvfka01ZdsM3SoJO8DDG+1WvmFSFm73HL57f0HyxNNRiqn60BwZ+6yaBq4TRGqF6ztbXKs2IEQsr5XYubr9quEl+Huxlio6NvyRDbNLlG8AN2fEnSMR6CkJthnlguFY4UOZxk=; X-YMail-OSG: WKtVWvcVM1mqIbYqxMlRb_HZmGWYFDfSoTLT7v58SxMT1IZYv6rK.ZFloC7_FuJZBA-- Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:01:09 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: forum - was LD would be so much cooler if... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <460170D8.9482.1CDCC37@nick.12testing.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <519943.68371.qm@web81311.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:01:10 +0000 (UTC) What I do is keep a free emai address pretty much just for LD. It ends up being the same thing.. Mark --- "nick@12testing.net" wrote: > On 20 Mar 2007 at 22:46, Mark Trewella wrote: > > > I don't want to unsubscribe but a forum would be > honestly a lot ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 18:32:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B8333BEEA; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:32:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=nmzw7Vb9VCKo4WBHXR2jlorZ/pW5+EKFI1XLOWKgdrba/dtGILzM+h/WH4qi/3kFjCyUBLMug1vuYotUcQcreHOK1X0aOcUP6qmtGTZGSGiflAYQgRxSkpXp2ipY33VVIhAYJvbSfGsYNil06CBuSzrF7FptMkPBWqVZCvyFh4g=; X-YMail-OSG: HHVuJV8VM1mS5tW_pQAB3oKF.N.1wAzroRCm4bC7qXsjfp47._8bzomdlbTuTfGWd_78bcIaQXdMi6ys5om1dhwbX3j9ZuxG5Cm_03ERjYRtucRQF7L0JEs8gPaXYsYx4Dotjxv1J3oVyhlb7bcc0pdGyQ-- Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:32:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: The Word is Out! Sell Your EDP's! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <956899.41458.qm@web81310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1797790774-1174501959=:53405" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <811974.53405.qm@web35113.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:32:41 +0000 (UTC) --0-1797790774-1174501959=:53405 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The text seemed to indicate that the lad was wowing folks with his "one man band" James Brown act using "looping". I think that kid would suck if he had a whole "Soul Band" backing him up! :) mark sottilaro wrote: Is that Danny Partridge with a Digitech Jamman? --- Paul Richards wrote: > > http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=255175&cache=1 > > > --------------------------------- > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and > always stay connected to friends. ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php --------------------------------- It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. --0-1797790774-1174501959=:53405 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The text seemed to indicate that the lad was wowing folks with his "one man band" James Brown act using "looping". I think that kid would suck if he had a whole "Soul Band" backing him up! :)

    mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
    Is that Danny Partridge with a Digitech Jamman?

    --- Paul Richards wrote:

    >
    > http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=255175&cache=1
    >
    >
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    > Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and
    > always stay connected to friends.



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    Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. --0-1797790774-1174501959=:53405-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 18:41:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1FFB23BEE1; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:41:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:41:51 -0600 Message-Id: <200703211841.l2LIfpr6022388@minds-eye.org> From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: kevin@minds-eye.org Subject: Re: The Word is Out! Sell Your EDP's! X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 137.150.33.94 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:41:56 +0000 (UTC) > The text seemed to indicate that the lad was wowing folks with his "one man band" James Brown act using "looping". I think that kid would suck if he had a whole "Soul Band" backing him up! :) Well of course he would. Cut him some slack though, he's what, 11 years old? Video Games or James Brown covers, what do you think is a more promising direction? Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 18:42:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2412C3BEFC; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:42:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=gxAbzhbPfqxKqPPCp5ObvYBNIlynOQAequntX5gHKDQ2wHEcTCzzzExcLu2+c6LUHy+2uyqTGRi4Vv2mo5UG41N9gDirgMl/mSLzNQGY36gBW5d4WAyQR71Zb3p1p1h/IV+8Ny4d4QYQIuumqaqcxjq5h5oexziW+ERSJGv5EdA= ; Message-ID: <20070321184221.26013.qmail@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: mZHswlMVM1k0W9JYC3BokfA4fKv759pu9XXf7.LCAszOaANlgXmvkkh0_A5QWx5NloMX5vS433_GchdUiJU0ohsDw.8g_jtjtqqy8z4c3sNX.uTzv76_fR.yDhxA44bv4l93Raak0ZLRUcc8Lg.NiZEF2A-- Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:42:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Ferrara Brain Pan Subject: Boss DD-20 Delay/Looping Pedal For Sale To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:42:25 +0000 (UTC) I have listed my DD-20 dual delay pedal on eBay at this link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290096895552 I mention it here since this is a delay pedal with basic looping capabilities, and note the following: I made some user modifications to the unit. I added some fabric bumpers and plastic washers inside the pedals, which make the operation of depressing the pedals quieter and reduces the 'throw' of the pedals (meaning there is a shorter distance between the position of the pedal when pressed and released, resulting in faster and more accurate timing, especially important when using the pedal as a looper). The operation of the pedals is now almost silent, with much reduced mechanical noise. The modifications I've made make this unit superior, in my opinion, to the new factory condition I bought it in, and the quieter pedal functioning makes it especially preferable for use with live-miked acoustic instruments. I have made no modifications to the electronics, only the mechanical functions as specified. I am selling it because: a) I am presently sinking into debt from vet bills for my sick and elderly cat b) I am unemployed, subsisting below poverty on welfare, and I can't find a job to save my life c) I have decided to give up live performance and focus more on recording and acoustic instruments If interested in this item, please reply to me off-list, or use the eBay 'contact seller' form... Ferrara Brain Pan http://www.formsofthingsunknown.com http://www.myspace.com/formsofthingsunknown "Let the great constellation of flickering ashes be heard..." - Noel Scott Engel From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 18:58:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1AE873BF02; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:58:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <19202453.1174503528695.JavaMail.root@web20> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 11:58:48 -0700 From: Paul Richards To: kevin@minds-eye.org Subject: Re: The Word is Out! Sell Your EDP's! Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <8DeKAB.A.O9C.pBYAGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:58:50 +0000 (UTC) (Video Games or James Brown covers) Video game development has my vote! One less meatball jamming his "talent" in my face. -- Paul Richards ---- Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > > The text seemed to indicate that the lad was wowing folks with his > "one man band" James Brown act using "looping". I think that kid would > suck if he had a whole "Soul Band" backing him up! :) > > Well of course he would. Cut him some slack though, he's what, 11 years > old? Video Games or James Brown covers, what do you think is a more > promising direction? > > Kevin > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 19:03:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF7003BF06; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=WlhPni/0aEfUj2WHTt+b37rMf0/Uh/tm8H4qizcmlSNQFkP+v60g1mwLuTST621eiz3/+z0kzT0szO7CyadqOgOTnyE3HaXlFX4YoxCyNSKLvAq0OtmUXjO7VMQyIkCrpBpAcRuv/LBBh/rvR0BRHv91rNZnHVAFVUgSpHmJEWg=; X-YMail-OSG: t5bdBpsVM1lR9e8J4Ic30a0CzoBzKEzVPjCXwZXt2q2I.KOkimLWJ.UwbFrAaHdrN1gcSKZMelfyZrp7NPU3mDydhm5OKjDsTgQTrSdTEFwA5lff894CzqwDzGsqGIHvwi.eLdJWnlyihcQ- Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:03:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Kupferschmid Subject: Re: fretless guitar looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <277072.79521.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <9hjsQD.A.WUD.JGYAGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:03:37 +0000 (UTC) Again with the crazy sounds, was that all fretless? it sounded like Sax in there too. After hearing this, it made me dig out my cheap ass guitar that has a fretless neck on it. I will say that when you get your sustainer installed, your possibilies will open up. I have a song that I plaed with my sustainer equipped Ibanez, only I used a slide and added an octave up pitch to the sound, it sounded like a cross between a flute and violin, the phrase I played sounded very Eastern. As soon as I can get my main pc up and running, I'll send you the link to where that song is, it's not live looping, but the parts of the song were composed with loops I made. --- Per Boysen wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to thank everyone on the list that helped > me with advice on > reshaping my Telecaster into a fretless guitar > aimed at looping. I > took away the frets, filled the slots with "plastic > padding chemical > wood", planed the fingerboard, trimmed the nut (much > lower setting > for fretless) and put on 013-056 stainless flat > wound jazz strings. > I'm delighted with this new instrument! Recorded the > first test run, > guitar lined directly into laptop: > http://www.looproom.com/audio/CamelRideSlumber.mp3 > > I imagine this guitar will be awesome to play with > the Sustaniac > system I have incoming :-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music > releases) > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 19:14:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3334A3BEE9; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:14:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <19202453.1174503528695.JavaMail.root@web20> References: <19202453.1174503528695.JavaMail.root@web20> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-776222917 Message-Id: <34f95d868ee5842971c262b56c9c3e89@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: The Word is Out! Sell Your EDP's! Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:13:54 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:14:00 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-776222917 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed OUCH! Harsh. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 21-Mar-07, at 11:58 AM, Paul Richards wrote: > (Video Games or James Brown covers) > > Video game development has my vote! One less meatball jamming his > "talent" in my face. --Apple-Mail-1-776222917 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII OUCH! Harsh. Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 21-Mar-07, at 11:58 AM, Paul Richards wrote: (Video Games or James Brown covers) Video game development has my vote! One less meatball jamming his "talent" in my face. --Apple-Mail-1-776222917-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 19:42:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6760C3BEEA; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:42:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:42:54 -0600 Message-Id: <200703211942.l2LJgskE004552@minds-eye.org> From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: kevin@minds-eye.org Subject: Re: The Word is Out! Sell Your EDP's! X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 137.150.33.94 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:42:57 +0000 (UTC) > OUCH! Harsh. No doubt. And how is his talent in your face when you have to go to a website to watch it anyway? Sheesh. You don't have any kids do you? > > (Video Games or James Brown covers) > > > > Video game development has my vote! One less meatball jamming his > > "talent" in my face. And lastly, I never said anything about developing video games, I meant playing them. Kevin -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 19:43:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4CB783BEF5; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:43:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Mh7oh3Eaf2fCT/DbNMkAl+MmyyPOfolp2AiiHhFTQF/G7RIkvk+0m0I8C2W4aizd9wb3W4WtFt3i5n6rk3WY2wIRYHoV+5d18ZYKPIjp4y4KEO1HNAIFj5ZvXBnNqJFwu7zPCoe8QQERZAby/VbhD4DZYbAd9gyqNolL5QLXT4Q=; X-YMail-OSG: rOQMwZQVM1lGeBtfEeXoOaaCjzHiBpOGNnlXaByLXXsH7nttQkTB1ksH1Fv2jSUktaWbJsaIHbQXAS9FCCbfE9nAAsL7eB0VRQGdsV3IAl0EAx9wR1yFV.mZpkMd7M5J6tVRILX0NNNHD9WxtojtAY2gRagzBz4mHY1dj8SA0OAL Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:43:49 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: SBD Music, Inc Acquires Electrix Pro, Inc To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20070321143100.70891.qmail@web52809.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <455215.48427.qm@web81313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <41-ZqC.A.CiG.2rYAGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:43:50 +0000 (UTC) You know, it's a sad day when I actually saw that while I was poking around a few days ago and I didn't even think it was LD worthy news. While once a staunch proponant (and critic) of all things Repeater, I swear if one got placed in my house for free I'd put it on ebay. I really can't tell you how much fun and flexibility using Mobius within Ableton Live has been this last 7 months. Mark --- S V G wrote: > > Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just sayin... > > > > > FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > > Contact: Adam Scolaro > SBD Music, Inc. > Phone: (800) 981-4531 X-701 > Fax: (949) 462-3062 > E-mail: adams@electrixpro.com > > Laguna Hills, California (March 19, 2007) – Newly > formed SBD Music, Inc., based in Laguna Hills, > Calif., has acquired Electrix Pro, Inc., a leader in > manufacturing professional audio equipment. > > SBD Music, Inc. also announces they have appointed a > board of directors consisting of Mark Buhler, > Charles Dotson and Adam Scolaro. > > “We saw a tremendous opportunity to acquire a very > well respected brand name in Electrix. We are > planning to re-introduce new versions of the > Electrix products over the next twelve to twenty > four > months”, says Adam Scolaro, president of SBD Music, > Inc. > > “We are going to continue manufacturing high quality > products that Electrix is known for, and try > to build and expand the product line”, added Mark > Buhler. > > > > from the ElectrixPro website > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Get your own web address. > Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. > http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 20:03:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D9873BEE0; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:03:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=koXE8ihedFrpNOZhh3FORyN9YUa7hcaodbZHImhI21t/wXwuBnkqrCRb0scdXm6ekwK3JXv386Nfvh33d/Pqsl45ifiZEVXZ2pq0G7gpXatoaHX7xF2aBTkb6k+ymAiIP5v9HV/EcebPUflJOnSwfM47Qv5n1rX2EfdzBJsoHNE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=DPLM2opQBANZT3DTuDu3f3WN1T4IG8yM2RebG/Ilf7k88LDcJcDhblrEA0MpSVM+zYMph1BfvpDZRNspIq9Os9bE5BQ9xN12MIJACM+LQigvyiDITnMmaSc0wc1uHOFbrU+fyvqmV0bY/EvlpCrC6ljjsJ7IhU2WqFc34a1AAfw= Message-ID: <9e2a71240703211303r33f337fbg9c1f17bda100d246@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:03:09 -0500 From: "Michael Pregeant" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Korg MS2000B (with custom made hardcase), Marshall JSM2000 DSL100, and Echoplex Digital Pro for sale! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_201865_32003963.1174507389051" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:03:11 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_201865_32003963.1174507389051 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Well I decided to post ALL of the gear I'm trying to sell on the list, I figured some of you guys might be interested! First is a Korg MS2000B up for sale, comes with a free keyboard stand and custom made hardcase, I'll take offers around 800 bucks for it Second is a Marshall JSM2000 DSL100 head for sale.. never giged with, never in a smoking enironment, I've had this thing for a few years and have taken great care of it. However, when I was recording some stuff with it, a moniter fell on the back causing a bit of asthetic damage to it. Nothing that effects playability. Given the demand for the product, I'll take offers around 600 dollars Lastly is that Echoplex Digital Pro I posted about, got a few offers that are still pending but I figured I'd post again anyways. I'm asking around 650 for it. All of my gear is in near mint condition because I treat my gear like it's my only child. I am flexible with payments (yes I accept paypal), and if you're interested i'm sure we can work something out thanks for your time, Mike -- www.myspace.com/ipwnuh4x www.myspace.com/therealannulus www.myspace.com/michaelpregeant ------=_Part_201865_32003963.1174507389051 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Well I decided to post ALL of the gear I'm trying to sell on the list, I figured some of you guys might be interested!
     
    First is a Korg MS2000B up for sale, comes with a free keyboard stand and custom made hardcase, I'll take offers around 800 bucks for it
     
    Second is a Marshall JSM2000 DSL100 head for sale.. never giged with, never in a smoking enironment, I've had this thing for a few years and have taken great care of it. However, when I was recording some stuff with it, a moniter fell on the back causing a bit of asthetic damage to it. Nothing that effects playability. Given the demand for the product, I'll take offers around 600 dollars
     
    Lastly is that Echoplex Digital Pro I posted about, got a few offers that are still pending but I figured I'd post again anyways. I'm asking around 650 for it.
     
    All of my gear is in near mint condition because I treat my gear like it's my only child.
     
    I am flexible with payments (yes I accept paypal), and if you're interested i'm sure we can work something out
     
    thanks for your time,
    ------=_Part_201865_32003963.1174507389051-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 20:19:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2411E3BEF3; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:19:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <13169460.1174508389321.JavaMail.root@web20> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 13:19:49 -0700 From: Paul Richards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The Word is Out! Sell Your EDP's! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:19:51 +0000 (UTC) Actually, it was presented on Yahoo's main page when I went to Yahoo. I didn't specifically LOOK for this ham. 'Wonder how much his parents spent on all those music gear items to allow his "haminess" to bloom? -- Paul Richards ---- Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > > OUCH! Harsh. > > No doubt. > > And how is his talent in your face when you have to go to a website to > watch it anyway? Sheesh. You don't have any kids do you? > > > > (Video Games or James Brown covers) > > > > > > Video game development has my vote! One less meatball jamming his > > > "talent" in my face. > > And lastly, I never said anything about developing video games, I meant > playing them. > > Kevin > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 20:30:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 210533BEF3; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:30:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=LZ4mL8LzFFL/uBihq7FNPiUEZZU7eeKHrx8coU4Fvo6L4xAW2JL7H2VUEJ8D+PgkBvVChnN40vRTdxzYGfMtB78182uRS35Q7TCK9A90jf4tadtxGc+czR5nDLJ+BVin0RpzB5O9YehDPHaZCft+YZipCSqhc4GF2YkDa+GYIqc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=B8QVqtGmL+0cM45eeYMyKLx/yHelUtcAgqFhcPPxsR9tX+xFs9cA8PCIN6DzyTvdAuYTYcYqnn41WT6pEKvEFHFT0IhTtlA559peGGiXicKq0NIa7bmn8PQLJxRBgwUNaT186SBXBkfRCwuyvnFXcVs/nz2zQ2qwMKwCWOT6poI= Message-ID: <9e0440a60703211330j1833d5e4o5abd39bdad470f19@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:30:45 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: fretless guitar looping In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_181933_24930935.1174509045320" References: <00fe01c76bd5$a9a24aa0$98b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:30:48 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_181933_24930935.1174509045320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Per congrads on going the mile of construction and welcome to fretless land. Like Camel Ride a lot particularly all the sutblies. Here is a link for all interested in fretless work to a track I did in a series of fretless pieces recently, participating in the RPMChallenge.com. Daryl [Shawn ] and I did a Chinapaintingrecording for this event and I did a solo one as well called Found . This is from that. http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com/audio/found/Jim_Goodin_Mexico.mp3. The guitar is an Ovation Adamas style (made by someone else) acoustic-electric fretless 6-string that I won off eBay in December of last year. Best to all on LD... Jim Goodin PS anybody on the list in Santa Fe area. I'm going out there on vacation next week. Had hoped to find a place to play and seems a bust thusfar. At this point sure but if anyone is local and knows of a reasonable open mic or church coffeehouse or something I could drop in at thanks... On 3/21/07, Per Boysen wrote: > > Hi, > > I'd like to thank everyone on the list that helped me with advice on > reshaping my Telecaster into a fretless guitar aimed at looping. I > took away the frets, filled the slots with "plastic padding chemical > wood", planed the fingerboard, trimmed the nut (much lower setting > for fretless) and put on 013-056 stainless flat wound jazz strings. > I'm delighted with this new instrument! Recorded the first test run, > guitar lined directly into laptop: > http://www.looproom.com/audio/CamelRideSlumber.mp3 > > I imagine this guitar will be awesome to play with the Sustaniac > system I have incoming :-) > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) > > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com Associates and friends on the web - Daryl Shawn - http://www.swanwelder.com Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com ------=_Part_181933_24930935.1174509045320 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
    Per congrads on going the mile of construction and welcome to fretless land.  Like Camel Ride a lot particularly all the sutblies.  Here is a link for all interested in fretless work to a track I did in a series of fretless pieces recently, participating in the RPMChallenge.com.  Daryl [Shawn] and I did a Chinapainting recording for this event and I did a solo one as well called Found.  This is from that.  http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com/audio/found/Jim_Goodin_Mexico.mp3 .
     
    The guitar is an Ovation Adamas style (made by someone else) acoustic-electric fretless 6-string that I won off eBay in December of last year.
     
    Best to all on LD...
     
    Jim Goodin
     
    PS anybody on the list in Santa Fe area.  I'm going out there on vacation next week.  Had hoped to find a place to play and seems a bust thusfar.  At this point sure but if anyone is local and knows of a reasonable open mic or church coffeehouse or something I could drop in at thanks...

     
    On 3/21/07, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
    Hi,

    I'd like to thank everyone on the list that helped me with advice on
    reshaping my Telecaster into a  fretless guitar aimed at looping. I
    took away the frets, filled the slots with "plastic padding chemical
    wood", planed the fingerboard, trimmed the nut (much lower setting
    for fretless) and put on 013-056 stainless flat wound jazz strings.
    I'm delighted with this new instrument! Recorded the first test run,
    guitar lined directly into laptop:
    http://www.looproom.com/audio/CamelRideSlumber.mp3

    I imagine this guitar will be awesome to play with the Sustaniac
    system I have incoming :-)

    Greetings from Sweden

    Per Boysen
    www.boysen.se (Swedish)
    www.looproom.com (international)
    http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast)
    http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases)





    --
    The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
    MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
    Chinapainting -
    http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
    Chinapainting on My Space -
    http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
    The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
    Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com

    Associates and friends on the web -
    Daryl Shawn -
    http://www.swanwelder.com
    Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com
    John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com
    Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net
    Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com
    Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com
    New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com ------=_Part_181933_24930935.1174509045320-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 20:48:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 632093BEEC; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:48:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=SHQWexTd4boSitNe2MBJmd3Xs8HKfh31E/Ksvrz3nTWZWt8Xd8JEl/GQBQ8d4iRucXMQGN+9fH64kRAc0y02zB0ZsAAY0v5dEu5AcNjzBZexOLBCbqqorlTzTH3hj9SndLdqquLNYuUcuBJvekoX3SXdMgPX6bNwojukXtepYdk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=YCbJbHZg0SJYRl4HWciC0zeLR7oZp00UkjH9yfT3RzuM1KHA3XoCnKP75OY+bSUp/XWCG0RDDkLmFjg4ccjA1YTHP56wa55M3+at2d9NBqr9vuUJxW/DsnXzKaBLgJr3tOj4zR6z/iuXAuvi6szNAQbQJxX9Y1xh55wwZJ1dWas= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <277072.79521.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <277072.79521.qm@web34305.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: fretless guitar looping Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:48:36 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:48:42 +0000 (UTC) On 21 mar 2007, at 20.03, Brian Kupferschmid wrote: > Again with the crazy sounds, was that all fretless? Yes. My telecaster, reborn and stripped from sinful frets. > it sounded like Sax in there too. No sax. But guitar played alternatively through seven different VST effect chains, before looped in Mobius. > After hearing this, > it made me dig out my cheap ass guitar that has a > fretless neck on it. Cool! Fretless is the thing :-) > I will say that when you get > your sustainer installed, your possibilies will open > up. Yes. I have ordered one and can hardly wait for it to get here. The Sustainiac is the reason I I'd like to pick up fretless guitar playing again. Last time I "destroyed" a guitar was in 1980 and I was dissatisfied with the short sustain. And since I have focused on wind instruments quite a lot lately I have really become frustrated with the lack of continuos tone control you have with traditional guitars. Sustainiac is going to be a great adventure! ;-))) > I have a song that I plaed with my sustainer > equipped Ibanez, only I used a slide and added an > octave up pitch to the sound, it sounded like a cross > between a flute and violin, the phrase I played > sounded very Eastern. As soon as I can get my main pc > up and running, I'll send you the link to where that > song is, it's not live looping, but the parts of the > song were composed with loops I made. Nice! Post a note when you find it! INteresting that you think you played "Eastern" on that fretless! That's what attracts me as well, the micro tonalities you are free to create by ear. No limiting instrument hardware, just the pure vibrations and the way you chose to react to them. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 21:05:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13D763BEF1; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:05:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <015d01c76bfc$961f1ae0$98b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <00fe01c76bd5$a9a24aa0$98b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> <9e0440a60703211330j1833d5e4o5abd39bdad470f19@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: fretless guitar looping Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:04:57 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_015A_01C76BCA.4A733AE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:05:04 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_015A_01C76BCA.4A733AE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In addition to Ned Evett, here in Boise, we have another local and very = well accomplished fretless player - Ben Burdick. Great jazz player and = looper to boot! Here is his fretless Christmas CD: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=3D15224673= 3&s=3D143441 Video of him playing Autumn Leaves on fretless: = http://www.benburdick.com/videos.html (using a fretless godin, I = believe...he has all his guitars de-fretted by a Luthier her in = Boise...I have one of them here at my place, a traditional nylon string = acoustic). His new CD I hear is quite good...with some Django like gypsy jazz on = it. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jim Goodin=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 2:30 PM Subject: Re: fretless guitar looping Per congrads on going the mile of construction and welcome to fretless = land. Like Camel Ride a lot particularly all the sutblies. Here is a = link for all interested in fretless work to a track I did in a series of = fretless pieces recently, participating in the RPMChallenge.com. Daryl = [Shawn] and I did a Chinapainting recording for this event and I did a = solo one as well called Found. This is from that. = http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com/audio/found/Jim_Goodin_Mexico.mp3 . The guitar is an Ovation Adamas style (made by someone else) = acoustic-electric fretless 6-string that I won off eBay in December of = last year. Best to all on LD... Jim Goodin PS anybody on the list in Santa Fe area. I'm going out there on = vacation next week. Had hoped to find a place to play and seems a bust = thusfar. At this point sure but if anyone is local and knows of a = reasonable open mic or church coffeehouse or something I could drop in = at thanks...=20 =20 On 3/21/07, Per Boysen wrote:=20 Hi, I'd like to thank everyone on the list that helped me with advice on reshaping my Telecaster into a fretless guitar aimed at looping. I=20 took away the frets, filled the slots with "plastic padding chemical wood", planed the fingerboard, trimmed the nut (much lower setting for fretless) and put on 013-056 stainless flat wound jazz strings.=20 I'm delighted with this new instrument! Recorded the first test run, guitar lined directly into laptop: http://www.looproom.com/audio/CamelRideSlumber.mp3=20 I imagine this guitar will be awesome to play with the Sustaniac system I have incoming :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) --=20 The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - = http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - = http://www.woodandwiremusic.com=20 Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull = Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel = Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com Associates and friends on the web - Daryl Shawn - http://www.swanwelder.com Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com=20 John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com ------=_NextPart_000_015A_01C76BCA.4A733AE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    In addition to Ned Evett, here in = Boise, we have=20 another local and very well accomplished fretless player - Ben Burdick. = Great=20 jazz player and looper to boot! Here is his fretless Christmas = CD:
     
    http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/= wa/viewAlbum?id=3D152246733&s=3D143441
     
    Video of him playing Autumn Leaves on = fretless: http://www.benburdick.com/= videos.html (using=20 a fretless godin, I believe...he has all his guitars de-fretted by a = Luthier her=20 in Boise...I have one of them here at my place, a traditional nylon = string=20 acoustic).
     
    His new CD I hear is quite good...with = some Django=20 like gypsy jazz on it.
     
    Kris
     
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 Jim=20 Goodin
    To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
    Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 = 2:30=20 PM
    Subject: Re: fretless guitar=20 looping

    Per congrads on going the mile of construction and welcome to = fretless=20 land.  Like Camel Ride a lot particularly all the sutblies.  = Here is=20 a link for all interested in fretless work to a track I did in a = series of=20 fretless pieces recently, participating in the RPMChallenge.com.  Daryl [Shawn] and I did a Chinapainting recording = for this=20 event and I did a solo one as well called Found.  This = is from=20 that.  = http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com/audio/found/Jim_Goodin_Mexico.mp3=20 .
     
    The guitar is an Ovation Adamas style (made by someone else)=20 acoustic-electric fretless 6-string that I won off eBay in December of = last=20 year.
     
    Best to all on LD...
     
    Jim Goodin
     
    PS anybody on the list in Santa Fe area.  I'm going out = there on=20 vacation next week.  Had hoped to find a place to play and seems = a bust=20 thusfar.  At this point sure but if anyone is local and knows of = a=20 reasonable open mic or church coffeehouse or something I could drop in = at=20 thanks...

     
    On 3/21/07, Per=20 Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> = wrote:=20
    Hi,

    I'd=20 like to thank everyone on the list that helped me with advice=20 on
    reshaping my Telecaster into a  fretless guitar = aimed at=20 looping. I
    took away the frets, filled the slots with "plastic = padding=20 chemical
    wood", planed the fingerboard, trimmed the nut (much = lower=20 setting
    for fretless) and put on 013-056 stainless flat wound = jazz=20 strings.
    I'm delighted with this new instrument! Recorded the = first test=20 run,
    guitar lined directly into laptop:
    http://www.lo= oproom.com/audio/CamelRideSlumber.mp3=20

    I imagine this guitar will be awesome to play with the=20 Sustaniac
    system I have incoming :-)

    Greetings from=20 Sweden

    Per Boysen
    www.boysen.se=20 (Swedish)
    www.looproom.com=20 (international)
    http://tinyurl.com/fauvm = (podcast)
    http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC = donationware music releases)




    --
    The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim = Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com<= BR>MySpace=20 (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jim= goodinmusic
    Chinapainting=20 -
    http://www.chinapaintingmusic.= com
    Chinapainting=20 on My Space -
    http://www.myspace= .com/chinapaintingmusic.com
    The=20 Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com<= /A>=20
    Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and = Seagull=20 Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com,= Jim=20 Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com

    Associate= s and=20 friends on the web -
    Daryl Shawn -
    http://www.swanwelder.com
    Adam = Werner=20 - http://www.adamwerner.com =
    John=20 Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com
    Mat= t=20 Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.ne= t
    Michael=20 Manring - http://www.manthing.com
    Will = Ackerman -=20 http://www.williamackerman.com
    New=20 Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com=20 ------=_NextPart_000_015A_01C76BCA.4A733AE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 21:06:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BCDFD3BEFC; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:06:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=jwZX/L08gSF1KFRRrn2SH14GnrsO/JVGjeBy6qsa3iC09lkFBVjEJWAu2ymtb8iQfKHWQ8tl4QUC80hNW22w39Ub8RbOUzG7SQNX+dCINDGvaZyBvF2EyK6O9BGsZW6W3VQvdO6nTMdQtdfMmlNqKHAI66qzFf7EVBCIEVP2R0c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Qb3Dvwo/6Suoxvx4BuSVqQsD2QZKNM6c514WjbzbTf8qSpLfPvLctxhhl8kOOYAsR/8xeiHiHKkYyRZxcRqITtNA7+eCfehpHR7Bggm+c74zOqFfV+dVoOxFhCtzoV/N0Ke+OBpJ7O78ZLAShOfpKzlTcBwnu1GImp1fMiJoSV4= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:06:47 -0500 From: "Jon Southwood" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The Word is Out! Sell Your EDP's! In-Reply-To: <13169460.1174508389321.JavaMail.root@web20> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_137796_20464412.1174511207133" References: <13169460.1174508389321.JavaMail.root@web20> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 21:06:49 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_137796_20464412.1174511207133 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I've never known Yahoo to start playing a video on its main page. I'm surprised at the vitriol expended on this kid's video, though. An 11 yr-old who's fairly competent on a handful of instruments uses looping to cover a James Brown song, while hamming it up. Let's break it down: - 11 yrs old --- there are plenty of vids on YouTube of adults with less skillz than this kid - Covering a JB song --- this is prolly the biggest offense, right? I mean live looping should only be reserved for a small handful of music types: the ephemeral improvisation, sound sculpture, drone+noodle (aka frippertronics), reichian minimalism, and guitar-turntablism...right out are: jazzer vamp+noodle (jazzer vamp != fripp drone), pop song structures, and above all--*cover* tunes. Let's face it, we should be thankful there are 11 yr olds who know who JB is, let alone are interested in playing his music. It could've been a looping cover of a Paris Hilton song. - hamming it up --- G-d forbid someone using a looper exhibits stage presence Before I get accused of being an improvisation-sound-sculputure-frippertronic-reich-turntablism-avant-garde-bleep-bloop hater, know that I've done more than my fair share of ebow-saturated drone+noodles and reichian minimalist pieces, some free improv, some sound sculpture, and much of my chamber music could certainly fall into the bleep/bloop category. Yeah, an 11 yr old's brand of hamming it up can be a bit annoying, but if someone played the hell out of that song while shoe-gazing, it would suck far worse than what that kid did. Cheers, Jon Southwood On 3/21/07, Paul Richards wrote: > > Actually, it was presented on Yahoo's main page when I went to Yahoo. I > didn't specifically LOOK for this ham. > > 'Wonder how much his parents spent on all those music gear items to allow > his "haminess" to bloom? > > -- > Paul Richards > > ---- Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > > > OUCH! Harsh. > > > > No doubt. > > > > And how is his talent in your face when you have to go to a website to > > watch it anyway? Sheesh. You don't have any kids do you? > > > > > > (Video Games or James Brown covers) > > > > > > > > Video game development has my vote! One less meatball jamming his > > > > "talent" in my face. > > > > And lastly, I never said anything about developing video games, I meant > > playing them. > > > > Kevin > > -- > > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > > > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > > > > ------=_Part_137796_20464412.1174511207133 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I've never known Yahoo to start playing a video on its main page.

    I'm surprised at the vitriol expended on this kid's video, though. An 11 yr-old who's fairly competent on a handful of instruments uses looping to cover a James Brown song, while hamming it up. Let's break it down:

    - 11 yrs old --- there are plenty of vids on YouTube of adults with less skillz than this kid
    - Covering a JB song --- this is prolly the biggest offense, right? I mean live looping should only be reserved for a small handful of music types: the ephemeral improvisation, sound sculpture, drone+noodle (aka frippertronics), reichian minimalism, and guitar-turntablism...right out are: jazzer vamp+noodle (jazzer vamp != fripp drone), pop song structures, and above all--*cover* tunes. Let's face it, we should be thankful there are 11 yr olds who know who JB is, let alone are interested in playing his music. It could've been a looping cover of a Paris Hilton song.
    - hamming it up --- G-d forbid someone using a looper exhibits stage presence

    Before I get accused of being an improvisation-sound-sculputure-frippertronic-reich-turntablism-avant-garde-bleep-bloop hater, know that I've done more than my fair share of ebow-saturated drone+noodles and reichian minimalist pieces, some free improv, some sound sculpture, and much of my chamber music could certainly fall into the bleep/bloop category.

    Yeah, an 11 yr old's brand of hamming it up can be a bit annoying, but if someone played the hell out of that song while shoe-gazing, it would suck far worse than what that kid did.

    Cheers,

    Jon Southwood

    On 3/21/07, Paul Richards <paulrichard10@adelphia.net> wrote:
    Actually, it was presented on Yahoo's main page when I went to Yahoo. I didn't specifically LOOK for this ham.

    'Wonder how much his parents spent on all those music gear items to allow his "haminess" to bloom?

    --
    Paul Richards

    ---- Kevin Cheli-Colando <kevin@minds-eye.org> wrote:
    > > OUCH!  Harsh.
    >
    > No doubt.
    >
    > And how is his talent in your face when you have to go to a website to
    > watch it anyway?  Sheesh.  You don't have any kids do you?
    >
    > > > (Video Games or James Brown covers)
    > > >
    > > > Video game development has my vote! One less meatball jamming his
    > > > "talent" in my face.
    >
    > And lastly, I never said anything about developing video games, I meant
    > playing them.
    >
    > Kevin
    > --
    > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
    > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.
    >
    > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
    >
    > Sound and Vision:  http://www.minds-eye.org
    >


    ------=_Part_137796_20464412.1174511207133-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 22:15:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EA6CD3BEF3; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <0F1279AF-87A6-4CC0-BFF6-FF32B7A51E77@curiomusic.com> References: <0F1279AF-87A6-4CC0-BFF6-FF32B7A51E77@curiomusic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <97ADE4E6-91B5-46D4-A8C1-17BB9DE2743C@curiomusic.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Darren Nelsen Subject: Re: rc50 syncing Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:15:18 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-ELNK-Trace: 4173614eae77cc41d4c20f6b8d69d8882c120543388a5fd702297a68bf73ae50c65a90d98335baa5350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.164.215.208 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Dug deeper and found that your problem might be Tempo Sync on all three phrases. Try turning it off for Phrase 3. See this guide as a reference: http://bossus.com/manuals/RC50WS06.pdf (Page 10, again) -- Darren Nelsen composer/guitarist http://www.curiomusic.com On Mar 20, 2007, at 7:53 AM, Darren Nelsen wrote: > I've not been able to swing this yet myself (I'm fairly new to the > RC-50), but try this (page 10): > > http://bossus.com/manuals/RC50WS05.pdf > > > > On Mar 20, 2007, at 1:08 AM, john floridis wrote: > >> i've been using the rc50 for some time now, but one thing i cannot >> seem to figureo out.... >> what i want to do is have three different phrases of three different >> lengths that can be stopped and started again simultaneously. i have >> tempo sync turned on on all three phrases. i seem to be able to do >> it easily with the first two, but when i add that last phrase, it is >> never in sync when i re-start. >> >> any ideas? >> >> john floridis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 22:22:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 08A173BEF7; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:22:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=aB1DVPDz+ldKlwjYQKI7VJ51mFRUxqQVQTJob8bVfOnh0FlpgOJ48+r+Ce2KHGXSDkB5r2cPG30hSAF1+p41lesSRP4thXlYN37tM/N7ZDzS6iP9Fc0Mggc0/v1+4STa4pvDQWZ0DH6GxC+ORNJmfEsHImgB1IJXyiPLZ3W3reA=; X-YMail-OSG: hVgyQiYVM1kIA1l1fvqhpyN1n6tF8CEktnu9WxpGxYL0BQsWJxFCRS45hfxANm3EBcyeraAup3OaeMptaexX3PLVUV6YIOV_us90TdqYkkitIJR2.VriUXWeAaOIxNeeacwJPupVytTvUO4kdYJASDTeOg-- Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 15:22:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: The Word is Out! Sell Your EDP's! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-816662995-1174515728=:43199" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <631059.43199.qm@web35103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:22:12 +0000 (UTC) --0-816662995-1174515728=:43199 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit (I've never known Yahoo to start playing a video on its main page.) I don't think I said it did, did I, ye of the dry (attempted) wit. (Vitriol) Hahaha. I think I remember all the nasty comments about the guy that did the Boss demo of the RC-50. Gimme a fuckin' break. As I implied, though. It's just another example of some kid's parents dough that financed his "collection" of gear. I've known plenty of those types. In fact, I still have a couple of their "albums" that I save as a kind of music house of horrors (one from my ex-boss's kid that had to be an example of the worst crap ever promulgated on an unsuspecting public - next to American Idol applicants, of course). And, just for the record, I'm a looper that doesn't do drone-y stuff (currently). I play mostly typically-structured rock with extended solos. Hence, I have no problem with 'traditional' rock or soul. Jon Southwood wrote: I've never known Yahoo to start playing a video on its main page. I'm surprised at the vitriol expended on this kid's video, though. An 11 yr-old who's fairly competent on a handful of instruments uses looping to cover a James Brown song, while hamming it up. Let's break it down: - 11 yrs old --- there are plenty of vids on YouTube of adults with less skillz than this kid - Covering a JB song --- this is prolly the biggest offense, right? I mean live looping should only be reserved for a small handful of music types: the ephemeral improvisation, sound sculpture, drone+noodle (aka frippertronics), reichian minimalism, and guitar-turntablism...right out are: jazzer vamp+noodle (jazzer vamp != fripp drone), pop song structures, and above all--*cover* tunes. Let's face it, we should be thankful there are 11 yr olds who know who JB is, let alone are interested in playing his music. It could've been a looping cover of a Paris Hilton song. - hamming it up --- G-d forbid someone using a looper exhibits stage presence Before I get accused of being an improvisation-sound-sculputure-frippertronic-reich-turntablism-avant-garde-bleep-bloop hater, know that I've done more than my fair share of ebow-saturated drone+noodles and reichian minimalist pieces, some free improv, some sound sculpture, and much of my chamber music could certainly fall into the bleep/bloop category. Yeah, an 11 yr old's brand of hamming it up can be a bit annoying, but if someone played the hell out of that song while shoe-gazing, it would suck far worse than what that kid did. Cheers, Jon Southwood On 3/21/07, Paul Richards wrote: Actually, it was presented on Yahoo's main page when I went to Yahoo. I didn't specifically LOOK for this ham. 'Wonder how much his parents spent on all those music gear items to allow his "haminess" to bloom? -- Paul Richards ---- Kevin Cheli-Colando wrote: > > OUCH! Harsh. > > No doubt. > > And how is his talent in your face when you have to go to a website to > watch it anyway? Sheesh. You don't have any kids do you? > > > > (Video Games or James Brown covers) > > > > > > Video game development has my vote! One less meatball jamming his > > > "talent" in my face. > > And lastly, I never said anything about developing video games, I meant > playing them. > > Kevin > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > --------------------------------- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. --0-816662995-1174515728=:43199 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    (I've never known Yahoo to start playing a video on its main page.)
     
    I don't think I said it did, did I, ye of the dry (attempted) wit.
     
    (Vitriol)
     
    Hahaha. I think I remember all the nasty comments about the guy that did the Boss demo of the RC-50. Gimme a fuckin' break.
     
    As I implied, though. It's just another example of some kid's parents dough that financed his "collection" of gear. I've known plenty of those types. In fact, I still have a couple of their "albums" that I save as a kind of music house of horrors (one from my ex-boss's kid that had to be an example of the worst crap ever promulgated on an unsuspecting public - next to American Idol applicants, of course).
     
    And, just for the record, I'm a looper that doesn't do drone-y stuff (currently). I play mostly typically-structured rock with extended solos. Hence, I have no problem with 'traditional' rock or soul.

     
    Jon Southwood <jsouthwood@gmail.com> wrote:
    I've never known Yahoo to start playing a video on its main page.

    I'm surprised at the vitriol expended on this kid's video, though. An 11 yr-old who's fairly competent on a handful of instruments uses looping to cover a James Brown song, while hamming it up. Let's break it down:

    - 11 yrs old --- there are plenty of vids on YouTube of adults with less skillz than this kid
    - Covering a JB song --- this is prolly the biggest offense, right? I mean live looping should only be reserved for a small handful of music types: the ephemeral improvisation, sound sculpture, drone+noodle (aka frippertronics), reichian minimalism, and guitar-turntablism...right out are: jazzer vamp+noodle (jazzer vamp != fripp drone), pop song structures, and above all--*cover* tunes. Let's face it, we should be thankful there are 11 yr olds who know who JB is, let alone are interested in playing his music. It could've been a looping cover of a Paris Hilton song.
    - hamming it up --- G-d forbid someone using a looper exhibits stage presence

    Before I get accused of being an improvisation-sound-sculputure-frippertronic-reich-turntablism-avant-garde-bleep-bloop hater, know that I've done more than my fair share of ebow-saturated drone+noodles and reichian minimalist pieces, some free improv, some sound sculpture, and much of my chamber music could certainly fall into the bleep/bloop category.

    Yeah, an 11 yr old's brand of hamming it up can be a bit annoying, but if someone played the hell out of that song while shoe-gazing, it would suck far worse than what that kid did.

    Cheers,

    Jon Southwood

    On 3/21/07, Paul Richards <paulrichard10@adelphia.net> wrote:
    Actually, it was presented on Yahoo's main page when I went to Yahoo. I didn't specifically LOOK for this ham.

    'Wonder how much his parents spent on all those music gear items to allow his "haminess" to bloom?

    --
    Paul Richards

    ---- Kevin Cheli-Colando <kevin@minds-eye.org> wrote:
    > > OUCH!  Harsh.
    >
    > No doubt.
    >
    > And how is his talent in your face when you have to go to a website to
    > watch it anyway?  Sheesh.  You don't have any kids do you?
    >
    > > > (Video Games or James Brown covers)
    > > >
    > > > Video game development has my vote! One less meatball jamming his
    > > > "talent" in my face.
    >
    > And lastly, I never said anything about developing video games, I meant
    > playing them.
    >
    > Kevin
    > --
    > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a
    > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all trouble.
    >
    > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950)
    >
    > Sound and Vision:  http://www.minds-eye.org
    >



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    Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. --0-816662995-1174515728=:43199-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 22:32:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC2893BEF0; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:32:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <97ADE4E6-91B5-46D4-A8C1-17BB9DE2743C@curiomusic.com> References: <0F1279AF-87A6-4CC0-BFF6-FF32B7A51E77@curiomusic.com> <97ADE4E6-91B5-46D4-A8C1-17BB9DE2743C@curiomusic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <825C26AB-3933-4862-912F-B07D1027195B@aol.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: john floridis Subject: Re: rc50 syncing Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:32:26 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-AOL-IP: 69.145.124.236 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 22:32:35 +0000 (UTC) much thanks darren....i'll give it a try. john From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 23:42:36 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 816B93BEF7; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:42:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=YSMFZScEsnp4CwkGvkQnoJyGZ256XEFNg00db9r+pf029u5zdci4HPjHpxKNii8hMGsVERIp6aflcvGnoCQ5rdjnEB/UuWJgJeWktIYNPc5/mSmINZi+p0Fc3/F97IW6a+LoT1N2cT9x6Ulqd5aj34PXzFYZvCmCiqYPv4fCct4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=cjTX898MKpA269EwHAQlk5pM6msOf/NseeWALcKAtqGjBlm8/5KdB+7Ru1FkLI94t0Kgr6YMszDmMqW2MN9tVldrWS5iwcwAx1rXQLSlpb3/4j/x8zZDGvkt6V6nPGjROUpJFmDszxFnyOWjMutAdEKXjsnn6WxDu9oAn6tkOlU= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 18:42:34 -0500 From: "Jon Southwood" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The Word is Out! Sell Your EDP's! In-Reply-To: <631059.43199.qm@web35103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_139628_11202616.1174520554756" References: <631059.43199.qm@web35103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:42:36 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_139628_11202616.1174520554756 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 3/21/07, Paul Richards wrote: > > (I've never known Yahoo to start playing a video on its main page.) > > I don't think I said it did, did I, ye of the dry (attempted) wit. > Here's what you said: "Actually, it was presented on Yahoo's main page when I went to Yahoo. I didn't specifically LOOK for this ham." Yeah, you don't specifically say that it started playing, however it's certainly implied that it was forced upon you. If it didn't start playing automagically, then you must've actually initiated the playing of the video. How is that "jamming his 'talent' in [your] face"? Oh, and I'm sorry my post was neither dry enough nor witty enough for you. (Vitriol) > > Hahaha. I think I remember all the nasty comments about the guy that did > the Boss demo of the RC-50. > I didn't read any of that thread, nor did I participate. Maybe I should search the Gmail archives of LD to recalibrate my vitriolometer. Gimme a fuckin' break. > Ah, now *that's* witty. As I implied, though. It's just another example of some kid's parents dough > that financed his "collection" of gear. I've known plenty of those types. In > fact, I still have a couple of their "albums" that I save as a kind of music > house of horrors (one from my ex-boss's kid that had to be an example of the > worst crap ever promulgated on an unsuspecting public - next to American > Idol applicants, of course). > Well, shame on my parents for having a piano in the house. A pox on my grandfather for loaning me his ebony clarinet so I could play an instrument in our junior high school band. A double-shame on my parents for buying me my first electric guitar (a Phantom Strat-copy that eventually had neck problems, so I yanked the frets). Maybe out of spite, now, but I won't feel guilty for cultivating whatever talent my daughter has for music. She's too young now, but eventually, she'll have access to my collection of instruments, including electric guitars (both fretted and fretless), a Chapman Stick, an EDP, oh and the same piano I grew up with. Feel free to write her off now. Oh, incidentally, the blurb off to the side of the video mentions that the kid actually gigs in the NYC area. It's actually possible he paid for some of that gear himself (although without the pressures of making rent or buying food, that doesn't count, right?) And, just for the record, I'm a looper that doesn't do drone-y stuff > (currently). I play mostly typically-structured rock with extended solos. > Hence, I have no problem with 'traditional' rock or soul. > Well, good. We can agree on something. It just sounded a bit like a shadow of the Keller Williams thread from a while back. Cheers, Jon ------=_Part_139628_11202616.1174520554756 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

    On 3/21/07, Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:
    (I've never known Yahoo to start playing a video on its main page.)
     
    I don't think I said it did, did I, ye of the dry (attempted) wit.

    Here's what you said:

    "Actually, it was presented on Yahoo's main page when I went to Yahoo. I didn't specifically LOOK for this ham."

    Yeah, you don't specifically say that it started playing, however it's certainly implied that it was forced upon you. If it didn't start playing automagically, then you must've actually initiated the playing of the video. How is that "jamming his 'talent' in [your] face"?

    Oh, and I'm sorry my post was neither dry enough nor witty enough for you.
     

    (Vitriol)
     
    Hahaha. I think I remember all the nasty comments about the guy that did the Boss demo of the RC-50.

    I didn't read any of that thread, nor did I participate. Maybe I should search the Gmail archives of LD to recalibrate my vitriolometer.

    Gimme a fuckin' break.

    Ah, now *that's* witty.

    As I implied, though. It's just another example of some kid's parents dough that financed his "collection" of gear. I've known plenty of those types. In fact, I still have a couple of their "albums" that I save as a kind of music house of horrors (one from my ex-boss's kid that had to be an example of the worst crap ever promulgated on an unsuspecting public - next to American Idol applicants, of course).

    Well, shame on my parents for having a piano in the house. A pox on my grandfather for loaning me his ebony clarinet so I could play an instrument in our junior high school band. A double-shame on my parents for buying me my first electric guitar (a Phantom Strat-copy that eventually had neck problems, so I yanked the frets).

    Maybe out of spite, now, but I won't feel guilty for cultivating whatever talent my daughter has for music. She's too young now, but eventually, she'll have access to my collection of instruments, including electric guitars (both fretted and fretless), a Chapman Stick, an EDP, oh and the same piano I grew up with.

    Feel free to write her off now.

    Oh, incidentally, the blurb off to the side of the video mentions that the kid actually gigs in the NYC area. It's actually possible he paid for some of that gear himself (although without the pressures of making rent or buying food, that doesn't count, right?)


    And, just for the record, I'm a looper that doesn't do drone-y stuff (currently). I play mostly typically-structured rock with extended solos. Hence, I have no problem with 'traditional' rock or soul.

    Well, good. We can agree on something. It just sounded a bit like a shadow of the Keller Williams thread from a while back.

     
    Cheers,

    Jon

    ------=_Part_139628_11202616.1174520554756-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 21 23:52:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41C663BEF5; Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:52:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Jny967K1IF+oPY+x9PVvv/B1J0l1VqknDNHnZoL6xScp6edHZ1+jZiRe8WNhl73yJNrBETRdFaVHbyc3vqMlEdBp8ewXIfJU6P3K4ExGuFVXT3gve2yluB6DQZtgq4hpTTbuonBeYotQpO6YgC+mugZ6n5evtdyXCg1Yg7rGv+c= ; Message-ID: <20070321235239.37074.qmail@web32702.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: KAjJH6IVM1mAziTEaeTytt_o63X6LuG1yxyznuddjoI5de6gaa4MyhI_L9ImFyAX2.TtZsQCesjyotVTz6WUYfiIZm40ntKHLqMvkduG6YouiYPkUw0u2kIK3iUPRaPdEQVqY1Os68czTKjvowo2DhPu Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 16:52:39 -0700 (PDT) From: bill bigrig Subject: fretless guitar To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 23:52:46 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, you all REALLY gotta check out Timothy Donahue. Fretless for 20 years. if you can obtain his video "Watching a Movie" you will ba slack-jawed at it. Rig ____________________________________________________________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 22 00:48:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5132F3BEEA; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 00:48:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: <00fe01c76bd5$a9a24aa0$98b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <2c5f237c329afe01e56c15c82d723c5f@charter.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tEd_=AE_kiLLiAn?= Subject: Re: fretless guitar looping Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 17:47:56 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 00:48:11 +0000 (UTC) Mr. Boysen, I rather enjoyed you inaugural fretless loop track. Your intonation is much better than mine would ever be. I have a hard enough time intonating accurately with jumbo frets and a floating Kahler tremolo, heheh. Best regards, Ted Killian On Mar 21, 2007, at 9:44 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi, > > I'd like to thank everyone on the list that helped me with advice on > reshaping my Telecaster into a fretless guitar aimed at looping. I > took away the frets, filled the slots with "plastic padding chemical > wood", planed the fingerboard, trimmed the nut (much lower setting for > fretless) and put on 013-056 stainless flat wound jazz strings. I'm > delighted with this new instrument! Recorded the first test run, > guitar lined directly into laptop: > http://www.looproom.com/audio/CamelRideSlumber.mp3 > > I imagine this guitar will be awesome to play with the Sustaniac > system I have incoming :-) > > Greetings from Sweden From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 22 02:57:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FF043BEF3; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 02:57:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: <553637.98804.qm@web52414.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-804058121 Message-Id: From: rithma music Subject: Re: Question about cotrolling EDP parameter presets with FCB1010 Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:57:49 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 02:57:56 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-4-804058121 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed first off, i want to thank everyone on this list, all your info & advice & banter has helped me SO much in my big music adventure. ive been lurking, listening, but now have some issues. SO IM TRYING to program my FCB1010 to run my new EDP (!!???!!! shitting bricks excited!!!!!!!) which i bought off a street kid in San Francisco. It has grafitti all over it, the mix pot is broken, but we plugged it in and the thing just rose from the ashes and started multiplying. WOW. Anyways, im wondering why there is variance between what CC# controls 'parameters' and thus all the other controls. And should i be sending note values? program changes? CC#s? very confusing. Does anyone just have a straight list of Midi CC#s (or notes) and their effect on the EDP? seems like it shouldnt be that difficult. I cant find it in the archives either! If i can figure out how to hand program an FCB1010 with my feet, i can do anything. also, i never understood what all the hubbubb wasabout with you folks & your Echoplexes. After staying awake for 4 days with no food locked in a room with this thing and completely happy, loops loops loops, i think im beginning to catch on. with love rithma www.rithma.org ---------------------------------------------- "Whatever you dream you can do begin it. Boldness Has genius, power & magic in it. Begin it now." -Goethe- www.beatport.com/rithmica+music the blog - www.rithma.org/blog the podcast - http://www.rithma.org/podcast/RithmaCast%202006-01-02B.mp3 home - www.rithma.org ----------------------------------------------- On Jan 23, 2007, at 2:21 PM, Sandy Rowles wrote: > I CHANGE THE PARAMETERS WITH A MIDI NOTE COMMAND AS WELL. I BELIEVE > IT SHOULD BE NOTE NUMBER 36 ON YOUR FCB1010. AT LEAST IT IS WITH > MINE. RECORD IS 38 , OVERDUB IS 39, AND SO ON. HOPE THAT WILL GET > IT FOR YOU. > > SANDY R. > --Apple-Mail-4-804058121 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
    first = off, i want to thank everyone on this list, all your info & advice = & banter has helped me SO much in my big music adventure.=A0 =A0ive = been lurking, listening, but now have some issues.=A0
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    SO IM TRYING to = program my FCB1010 to run my new=A0EDP (!!???!!!shitting bricks = excited!!!!!!!)=A0 which i bought off a street kid in San Francisco. It = has grafitti all over it, the mix pot is broken, but we plugged it in = and the thing just rose from the ashes and started multiplying.=A0 WOW.=A0= =A0Anyways,=A0 =A0im wondering why there is variance between what CC# = controls 'parameters' and thus all the other controls.=A0 And=A0 should = i be sending=A0 note values? program changes? CC#s?=A0 =A0very = confusing. =A0 =A0Does anyone just have a straight list of Midi CC#s (or = notes) and their effect on the EDP?=A0 seems like it shouldnt be that = difficult.=A0
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    also, i never understood = what all the hubbubb wasabout with you folks & your Echoplexes.=A0 = =A0After staying awake for 4 days with no food locked in a room with = this thing and completely=A0 happy, loops loops loops, i think im = beginning to catch on.=A0=A0

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    On Jan 23, 2007, at 2:21 PM, Sandy Rowles = wrote:

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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 00:24:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=1.0 tests=AWL,MANY_EXCLAMATIONS autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 07:24:34 +0000 (UTC) Paul Richards wrote: "Actually, it was presented on Yahoo's main page when I went to Yahoo. I didn't specifically LOOK for this ham. 'Wonder how much his parents spent on all those music gear items to allow his "haminess" to bloom?" Man, Paul, you really sound bitter. This kid played bass guitar, rhythm guitar, lead guitar, lead organ, lead saxaphone, sang well and even danced pretty decently................and he's 11 fucking years young. What could possibly be bad about that? What could possibly be wrong with his parents supporting him to the very best of their ability. Why shouldn't his talent be supported? Why do you make music, my friend? What do you do that is so morally and aesthetically superior to the obvious joy that this kid has for music? Lighten up on this kid. Jeez! Rick Walker -- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 22 07:33:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EF4E3BEF1; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 07:33:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: Subject: RE: fretless guitar looping Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:32:48 +0100 Message-ID: <002801c76c54$4b640fd0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AcdsUaFFBBrKPczBRVezAP9a/cWLRwAAmqmw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 07:33:25 +0000 (UTC) > INteresting that you think you played "Eastern" on that fretless! That's what attracts me as well, the micro tonalities you are free to create by ear. No limiting instrument hardware, just the pure vibrations and the way you chose to react to them. same here. Leander Reininghaus is currently finishing my fretless sustainer guitar ... looking forward to that instrument! Michael www.michaelpeters.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 22 07:33:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A36B3BF00; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 07:33:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01b501c76c54$6f5e1d40$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: How to reduce the DAILY DIGEST to one post a day Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 00:33:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 07:33:45 +0000 (UTC) It has been repeatedly posted that the Daily Digest becomes more than once a day because posters continually disregard the request to quit hitting REPLY when they answer a post. Ignoring these requests adds volumes to the amount of print we all have to wade through on this list every day. It has resulted in many, many really wonderful musicians leaving the list. In the long run, it's really insensitive for people to continually disregard this request but people continue to do no matter how much people complain. I'd like to suggest that the next time we see some one post an reply to someone quoting every post that has occurred in the particular thread that EVERYONE who is bothered by it all send this person an offlist reply message that says "PLEASE EDIT YOUR POSTS TO LOOPERS DELIGHT!" in the subject line and "You are driving people from our list and gumming up our daily digest. With respect............................." in the message body. Maybe if people are inundated the way they are inundating us, they will rethink their narcissistic postings. 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Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:52:04 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 08:52:14 +0000 (UTC) Hi Jeffrey I'd love to listen to your music. I couldn't unzip the file, though :-). Now this could just be my Mac or something you need to look into. Cheers Nico www.recpro.ch www.myspace.com/nicospahni Am 22.03.2007 um 05:47 schrieb Jeffrey Collins: > I just wanted to take this moment to say HELLO to everyone again. I > haven't been on LD's mailing list for years. I finally got around to > making my first cd available as a download, and wanted to let everyone > here know about it. > > Jeffrey Collins - Guitar Sonatas Vol 1 > > Included are all 320KBPS MP3 Files. Seperate and individual for > playing on your ipod or your cd player. > > Please enjoy. > > http://www.sendspace.com/file/6jwqfw > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 22 09:46:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9AC0A3BEF5; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:46:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=WLb5K6iC7KR0DADGgItwJ6Xlb7IB3ZyMab6NonSJnZE+nzC9wEns2v1Ko1eX+SGiHndo+lDWANMall6pt+FV3bJ4YdILf/vXliRcjdsvxGlCuHshFJ2zZetO6G6zp5nYyOvafLM4P22V/WEHj83iizS5FkQTwcE5ghwT7EOb/lQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=SV4XC7fgViMWD5Xp3wHaHTaHtUXQLKDi+KzeufNKE7k7HjH9xeY/QXHbbUdEo7/p7RL+yZI+FPDAgVxNFTjXkO65jEyBEtwmiHEjC2K7cAn2S9INMz1XEfnptHtpH+2k3Oa7cWYRnaC3MIViftHkP6ciTFmUuV7p0ybNQ+qpTZs= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <20070322044758.78305.qmail@web34211.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6C02A10F-1B2D-40EF-9A18-D6BBC75AFE51@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Free Mac Looper for Wii Controller Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:46:12 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:46:18 +0000 (UTC) This morning my RSS news aggregator brought me this interesting article link. The looper is controlled by a wireless Nintendo hand control unit. Unfortunately it's not for live looping, only playback and manipulation of pre-recorded loops. Imagine how cool that thing would be for a singer - Wii controller in one hand and mic in the other hand! There's a nice demo movie at this linked article. Make sure the full URL link is copied into your brower's address field. http://createdigitalmusic.com/2007/03/20/free-mac-looper-for-wii- controller-wii-midi-hacking-round-up/ Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 22 10:28:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78B6D3BEF8; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:28:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 06:26:43 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to Afterglow, Galactic Travels, and The AM/FM Show To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <460267F3.3000606@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:28:21 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at: http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm on Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long Special Focus on Paul Lawler from the UK. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Resurrection" by Max van Richter on NeuHarmony Records. The Vinyl Starter will be from the LP "Sonanze" by Roberto Cacciapaglia on Ohr Records and released in 1976 in SQ Quad. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#mar Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and on the internet. THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, March 24 at 6:00 am. I will continue the special on E-dition Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. Tune in to WMUH Allentown at 91.7 FM, broadcasting from the campus of Muhlenberg College. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. WMUH's web site is http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh All times are EDT / GMT-4. ====================================================================== Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm ====================================================================== Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 22 15:21:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 601733BEF9; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [67.85.6.136] X-Originating-Email: [tubaczar98@hotmail.com] X-Sender: tubaczar98@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <6C02A10F-1B2D-40EF-9A18-D6BBC75AFE51@gmail.com> From: "David Grego" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: remove Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:21:12 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Mar 2007 15:21:14.0180 (UTC) FILETIME=[BAB68840:01C76C95] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:21:16 +0000 (UTC) Remove _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage refinance is hot 1) Rates near 30-yr lows 2) Good credit get intro-rate 4.625%* https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h2a5f&s=4056&p=5117&disc=y&vers=743 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 22 15:24:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5D323BEFA; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:24:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01f001c76c96$2820a230$98b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: remove Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:24:16 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:24:21 +0000 (UTC) > Remove Read. http://www.loopersdelight.com/list/LoopList.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 22 16:21:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 635BA3BEF9; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:21:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070322122134.enf5pjfp74cs88wc@www.wightman.ca> Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:21:34 -0400 From: phaslem@wightman.ca To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: rc-50 feedback References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: <_Y-bLB.A.EMG.R0qAGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 16:21:38 +0000 (UTC) I was looking through the archives and found mention of a workaround to have some sort of feedback control with the rc-50. I'm borrowing one for a few days and wondered if someone could let me know how that works and how to set it up. Thanks, Paul Haslem Ontario, Canada www.dulcify.ca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 22 17:45:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E565D3BEF1; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:45:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ze+vp80B8D/V9JrrhulZDo1jPg/xZQlndwf8MUUNHgRi8Cg1jF5n0Ad57uVvTgzKtH1CvtDDdeI5hkX1zLWW6UfuTXTWNIglmHZaCX5PLEYKVR2LK9n7E9N3/UQVkLAE4YlhmGfRM57sg2nzBxwmFKp8edS28LRQXH6PuEFuWJQ=; X-YMail-OSG: TqgxTyIVM1nSpnw7hZMuZbMrt95HNmfRMlPnSx49M9Lq0H9qtqyMNIkkOq935Ge0qYuOLi.vSD_NWpazXe7W73oTyo3rqXllq_6qK7xfzhoYeYeaT3ptKFXaNA9YvpABuZjikLQ_89oMAu0RMK0Tk.bOVw-- Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:44:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: The Word is Out! Sell Your EDP's! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <01b101c76c53$24de9200$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-541128465-1174585498=:71155" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <146148.71155.qm@web35107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:45:03 +0000 (UTC) --0-541128465-1174585498=:71155 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I was wondering when the uncrowned "King of the Looper's Delight" board would respond. (What could possibly be bad about that?) Well, I can think of one reason. The world will have to listen someones shit like his (possibly) someday like mostly what exists now in the music world. Ambition alone is not justification for jamming something up the world's/society's/etc. ass. Adoph Hitler was pretty ambitious. RICK WALKER wrote: Paul Richards wrote: "Actually, it was presented on Yahoo's main page when I went to Yahoo. I didn't specifically LOOK for this ham. 'Wonder how much his parents spent on all those music gear items to allow his "haminess" to bloom?" Man, Paul, you really sound bitter. This kid played bass guitar, rhythm guitar, lead guitar, lead organ, lead saxaphone, sang well and even danced pretty decently................and he's 11 fucking years young. What could possibly be bad about that? What could possibly be wrong with his parents supporting him to the very best of their ability. Why shouldn't his talent be supported? Why do you make music, my friend? What do you do that is so morally and aesthetically superior to the obvious joy that this kid has for music? Lighten up on this kid. Jeez! Rick Walker -- --------------------------------- The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. --0-541128465-1174585498=:71155 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
    I was wondering when the uncrowned "King of the Looper's Delight" board would respond.
     
    (What could possibly be bad about that?)
     
    Well, I can think of one reason. The world will have to listen someones shit like his (possibly) someday like mostly what exists now in the music world.
     
    Ambition alone is not justification for jamming something up the world's/society's/etc. ass. Adoph Hitler was pretty ambitious.

    RICK WALKER <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
    Paul Richards wrote:
    "Actually, it was presented on Yahoo's main page when I went to Yahoo. I
    didn't specifically LOOK for this ham.
    'Wonder how much his parents spent on all those music gear items to allow
    his "haminess" to bloom?"


    Man, Paul, you really sound bitter.

    This kid played bass guitar, rhythm guitar, lead guitar, lead organ, lead
    saxaphone,
    sang well and even danced pretty decently................and he's 11 fucking
    years young.

    What could possibly be bad about that? What could possibly be wrong with
    his parents supporting
    him to the very best of their ability. Why shouldn't his talent be
    supported?

    Why do you make music, my friend? What do you do that is so morally and
    aesthetically superior to
    the obvious joy that this kid has for music?

    Lighten up on this kid. Jeez!

    Rick Walker


    --


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Search Marketing. --0-541128465-1174585498=:71155-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 22 17:52:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C9073BEFA; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:52:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=un29s/WIruLdU7PKa0DHDa/9K1q7WQqMmmpaPyDPGAjiZhjxUE2Wq5nXjL1bI3ZErd9SigMchC/ZWCA0vXXhzMW/3O5nJZQN562ouF/dgQyNrJGJ44tzw1qDE3AI6leQX2xzdqCESrfZFWmBQfCinPSow8Wfh2hvKqikvazwGIE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ec/hhX4wuQZPZMtGmj1yYYu/B7OWTViZyguGBrfncYHpjFCOaYPVK0R5Rloa+lN/pqfPMjJIMWClmfCxCQ0VnCbZeEEsUenA15nuNXaR7eTSa5RSpTvxsSpYmgW3XZZfdVF7vYPvYkTPouLsnDmxZ8qiYc5gQGcxnDt8KoD3I3g= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 10:52:07 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The Word is Out! Sell Your EDP's! In-Reply-To: <146148.71155.qm@web35107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <01b101c76c53$24de9200$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <146148.71155.qm@web35107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <2NkdzC.A.1UE.IJsAGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:52:09 +0000 (UTC) Uh oh, Godwin's Law penalty.... On 3/22/07, Paul Richards wrote: > > Ambition alone is not justification for jamming something up the world's/society's/etc. ass. Adoph Hitler was pretty ambitious. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 22 17:52:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98D563BEFB; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 11:52:21 -0600 Message-Id: <200703221752.l2MHqLBd001799@minds-eye.org> From: "Kevin Cheli-Colando" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: kevin@minds-eye.org Subject: Re: The Word is Out! Sell Your EDP's! X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.25 X-IPAddress: 137.150.33.94 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Resent-Message-ID: <1eWu4C.A.YbE.cJsAGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:52:28 +0000 (UTC) >Adoph Hitler was pretty ambitious. Oops, you lose. K -- Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a form. 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The looper is controlled by a wireless > Nintendo hand > control unit. Unfortunately it's not for live > looping, only playback > and manipulation of pre-recorded loops. Imagine how > cool that thing > would be for a singer - Wii controller in one hand > and mic in the > other hand! ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 22 18:52:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D07E83BF0B; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:52:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 14:52:02 EDT Subject: volume question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cda.a8cb141.33342a52_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:52:16 +0000 (UTC) --part1_cda.a8cb141.33342a52_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit when i play a "looping" tune in my i-tunes i get: volume control in the eq section, a volume control in the i-tunes itself, a volume control on my usb port, a volume control on my srm 450's.....it is a similiar situation when i loop thru my system: guitar has volume controls all my little boxes have volume (gain) controls, the mixer has volume on each channel and a master volume then the speakers have seperate volume controls also.....i have experimented often with different settings and was wondering, is there a "rule" regarding volume settings, i.e. what should be the hottest?.....thnaks for any advice.....michael n.p. jeffery collins guitar sonatas vol.1.....thnaks jeff very interesting music, more after a few more listens. www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. --part1_cda.a8cb141.33342a52_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable when i play a "looping" tune in my i-tu= nes i get: volume control in the eq section, a volume control in the i-tunes= itself, a volume control on my usb port, a volume control on my srm 450's..= ...it is a similiar situation when i loop thru my system: guitar has volume=20= controls all my little boxes have volume (gain) controls, the mixer has volu= me on each channel and a master volume then the speakers have seperate volum= e controls also.....i have experimented often with different settings and wa= s wondering, is there a "rule" regarding volume settings, i.e. what should b= e the hottest?.....thnaks for any advice.....michael
    n.p. jeffery collins guitar sonatas vol.1.....thnaks jeff very interesting m= usic, more after a few more listens.
    www.ct-collective.com
    http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/
    http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10



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    AOL now off= ers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at htt= p://www.aol.com. --part1_cda.a8cb141.33342a52_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 22 19:06:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B96643BF08; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:06:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=YK0i4jvSMZFbJr6s8CUs+FoeZdcYrTRU7ZHUOksmOMydufdYU4U2UGPym24im6u5i9yiZTwQLCxOhBBwdm4CflEizTjjqNMjTVeK9PuYC6/4QM+7Qu00WBO5eFf4Xhr4EV5TVbr+SHVbxZy8CyeYkW0tTI4eTlBA/Ib6SFp+jqE=; X-YMail-OSG: lfEInKEVM1la0CTG0A5wvk6kesQZ1Ia70lrlWZQSxcN5aHD1ZogA346Ce_12R9esNgmSCHnfGG8hQAI6oNtHWa8fE73JIzkNuZTSaodIFp4IYgCQ99zlfua5.0tuyf7JasSKDrg038aGi2JYVORR1CNh5A-- Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:06:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeffrey Collins Subject: Re: volume question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-506131007-1174590386=:77501" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <634732.77501.qm@web34209.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:06:34 +0000 (UTC) --0-506131007-1174590386=:77501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks. I'm going to be digitally releasing the other two in the coming weeks. Hope you find something in there that tickles ya in the right way. Jeffrey n.p. jeffery collins guitar sonatas vol.1.....thnaks jeff very interesting music, more after a few more listens. Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: when i play a "looping" tune in my i-tunes i get: volume control in the eq section, a volume control in the i-tunes itself, a volume control on my usb port, a volume control on my srm 450's.....it is a similiar situation when i loop thru my system: guitar has volume controls all my little boxes have volume (gain) controls, the mixer has volume on each channel and a master volume then the speakers have seperate volume controls also.....i have experimented often with different settings and was wondering, is there a "rule" regarding volume settings, i.e. what should be the hottest?.....thnaks for any advice.....michael n.p. jeffery collins guitar sonatas vol.1.....thnaks jeff very interesting music, more after a few more listens. www.ct-collective.com http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. --------------------------------- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. --0-506131007-1174590386=:77501 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks. I'm going to be digitally releasing the other two in the coming weeks.

    Hope you find something in there that tickles ya in the right way.
    Jeffrey

    n.p. jeffery collins guitar sonatas vol.1.....thnaks jeff very interesting music, more after a few more listens.
    Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote:
    when i play a "looping" tune in my i-tunes i get: volume control in the eq section, a volume control in the i-tunes itself, a volume control on my usb port, a volume control on my srm 450's.....it is a similiar situation when i loop thru my system: guitar has volume controls all my little boxes have volume (gain) controls, the mixer has volume on each channel and a master volume then the speakers have seperate volume controls also.....i have experimented often with different settings and was wondering, is there a "rule" regarding volume settings, i.e. what should be the hottest?.....thnaks for any advice.....michael
    n.p. jeffery collins guitar sonatas vol.1.....thnaks jeff very interesting music, more after a few more listens.
    www.ct-collective.com
    http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/
    http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10



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    Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. --0-506131007-1174590386=:77501-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 22 19:09:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 496B83BF17; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:09:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=vmuaCy2qqAB9r6PrRpY78/6YQFuIKqsElDlYAA/wAZB9b/9t4fPPCFMt2Ff4vu8Yh7j3RlOH5SvUL9piUiACzsqVsuR0WwUC/CrT1KQHCaFFuREEi//HTqmT+h2Eo1SFKIAPZEDyxypi/uP2it/FUD+gyEYu/npyX75jy0o5+8s=; X-YMail-OSG: zocfBvkVM1lNT8OS_HdNhTfmj6V_ja7LqCXvH0y4fbykqJKG96efyvge_VyuYee_9QhUc2Qcn_LfgcUsGAactm3fElET3.IIjPblhK57MIHD5DY0YZ5I.NlPLLVDDJx6vgHDVP6JS3pyw4DooqAfPTxVUCfaXF_OfRadJbm0FV9T Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:09:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Jeffrey Collins Subject: Re: Hello Everyone...I'm Back Again! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1930525847-1174590563=:35956" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <170084.35956.qm@web34206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:09:25 +0000 (UTC) --0-1930525847-1174590563=:35956 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ohhh. I only can think to maybe try to download it again. Sometimes I hear of problems that come from the downloading site, like what you experience. I will look into that. Jeff nico spahni wrote: Hi Jeffrey I'd love to listen to your music. I couldn't unzip the file, though :-). Now this could just be my Mac or something you need to look into. Cheers Nico www.recpro.ch www.myspace.com/nicospahni Am 22.03.2007 um 05:47 schrieb Jeffrey Collins: > I just wanted to take this moment to say HELLO to everyone again. I > haven't been on LD's mailing list for years. I finally got around to > making my first cd available as a download, and wanted to let everyone > here know about it. > > Jeffrey Collins - Guitar Sonatas Vol 1 > > Included are all 320KBPS MP3 Files. Seperate and individual for > playing on your ipod or your cd player. > > Please enjoy. > > http://www.sendspace.com/file/6jwqfw > > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. --------------------------------- Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. --0-1930525847-1174590563=:35956 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ohhh. I only can think to maybe try to download it again. Sometimes I hear of problems that come from the downloading site, like what you experience.

    I will look into that.

    Jeff

    nico spahni <nicosp@gmx.net> wrote:
    Hi Jeffrey

    I'd love to listen to your music. I couldn't unzip the file, though
    :-). Now this could just be my Mac or something you need to look into.

    Cheers

    Nico

    www.recpro.ch
    www.myspace.com/nicospahni




    Am 22.03.2007 um 05:47 schrieb Jeffrey Collins:

    > I just wanted to take this moment to say HELLO to everyone again. I
    > haven't been on LD's mailing list for years. I finally got around to
    > making my first cd available as a download, and wanted to let everyone
    > here know about it.
    >
    > Jeffrey Collins - Guitar Sonatas Vol 1
    >
    > Included are all 320KBPS MP3 Files. Seperate and individual for
    > playing on your ipod or your cd player.
    >
    > Please enjoy.
    >
    > http://www.sendspace.com/file/6jwqfw
    >
    > Looking for earth-friendly autos?
    > Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center.


    Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and
    always stay connected to friends. --0-1930525847-1174590563=:35956-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 22 19:19:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 406933BF1C; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:19:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <146148.71155.qm@web35107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <146148.71155.qm@web35107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-862927362 Message-Id: <5495a8f88ab5f00041faecff8b5ec446@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: The Word is Out! Sell Your EDP's! Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:18:59 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:19:15 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-862927362 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Oh gee! You're a successful artist, Paul. What's up with this? =20 Usually folks who rail against other artists so vehemently are busking=20= on imaginary street corners... or bedrooms or garages. No one's jamming anything anywhere. You must know this. Last year=20 Universal spend $2M on a band that failed miserably. You can't shove=20 anything in any orifice without the orifice being interested in some=20 way. ONCE THE ORIFICE IS AVAILABLE, the record folks might apply a=20 lot of financial KY Jelly, but if the audience ain't there they're too=20= skiddish nowadays to dump anything but old artists like you and I! To me, the question is, why do people like what you and I might=20 consider beginner music? I'm not joking here. I think it's a very=20 educational and possibly enlightening question. My hunch is it has to=20= do with emotional content... and the demographic of who's actually=20 BUYING CDs anymore. And think of this, to deep fans of Albert Ayler or Archie Shepp or even=20= Derek Bailey, The California Guitar Trio could be seen as shoving=20 things where they don't belong. Just for the record, I went to your=20 site and listened and enjoyed it. I see no shoving involved. In defense of parents supporting their kids music, Hari Bol! I=20 supported my daughter who you will hear about soon. She's a monster=20 writer, charisma to burn, very innovative guitarist, pianist & writer,=20= fabulous looking, incredible vox, one of the 'rare and great ones' the=20= record and booking folks are saying. Twenty years old. I'm so glad I=20= did it! I'm going to tour with her in China, Europe and the UK this=20 summer. I helped produce her record here in my studio. Why the sour grapes? Our vineyards are overflowing! And we don't want=20= to be Salieri, do we? I don't think you are. But it's something to look out for. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 22-Mar-07, at 10:44 AM, Paul Richards wrote: > I was wondering when the uncrowned "King of the Looper's Delight"=20 > board would respond. > =A0 > (What could possibly be bad about that?) > =A0 > Well, I can think of one reason. The world will have to listen=20 > someones shit like his (possibly) someday like mostly what exists now=20= > in the music world. > =A0 > Ambition alone is not justification for jamming something up the=20 > world's/society's/etc. ass. Adoph Hitler was pretty ambitious. > --Apple-Mail-2-862927362 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oh gee! You're a successful artist, Paul. What's up with this?=20 Usually folks who rail against other artists so vehemently are busking on imaginary street corners... or bedrooms or garages.=20 No one's jamming anything anywhere. You must know this. Last year Universal spend $2M on a band that failed miserably. You can't shove anything in any orifice without the orifice being interested in some way. ONCE THE ORIFICE IS AVAILABLE, the record folks might apply a lot of financial KY Jelly, but if the audience ain't there they're too skiddish nowadays to dump anything but old artists like you and I! To me, the question is, why do people like what you and I might consider beginner music? I'm not joking here. I think it's a very educational and possibly enlightening question. My hunch is it has to do with emotional content... and the demographic of who's actually BUYING CDs anymore. And think of this, to deep fans of Albert Ayler or Archie Shepp or even Derek Bailey, The California Guitar Trio could be seen as shoving things where they don't belong. Just for the record, I went to your site and listened and enjoyed it. I see no shoving involved. In defense of parents supporting their kids music, Hari Bol! I supported my daughter who you will hear about soon. She's a monster writer, charisma to burn, very innovative guitarist, pianist & writer, fabulous looking, incredible vox, one of the 'rare and great ones' the record and booking folks are saying. Twenty years old. I'm so glad I did it! I'm going to tour with her in China, Europe and the UK this summer. I helped produce her record here in my studio.=20 Why the sour grapes? Our vineyards are overflowing! And we don't want to be Salieri, do we? =20 I don't think you are. But it's something to look out for. =20 Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 22-Mar-07, at 10:44 AM, Paul Richards wrote: I was wondering when the uncrowned "King of the Looper's Delight" board would respond. =A0 (What could possibly be bad about that?) =A0 Well, I can think of one reason. The world will have to listen someones shit like his (possibly) someday like mostly what exists now in the music world. =A0 Ambition alone is not justification for jamming something up the world's/society's/etc. ass. Adoph Hitler was pretty ambitious. = --Apple-Mail-2-862927362-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 22 19:46:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8D3E03BF0C; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:46:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 15:44:47 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #520 for March 15, 2007 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <4602EABF.90507@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 19:46:20 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/070315.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #520 March 15, 2007 RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Paul Lawler. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Future Wreck" by Arcane on NeuHarmony Records. The Vinyl Starter was from the LP "Digital Moonscapes" by Wendy Carlos on CBS Records and released in 1984. Paul Lawler - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#mar PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Wendy Carlos Io Digital Moonscapes (CBS) M.A.S.S. You Are Evil Mysteria (Membran) Nemesis Nautilus Audio Archeology Vol. 1 (none) Nemesis Greenland Audio Archeology Vol. 1 (none) Random Touch Incompletedness Alchemy (Token Boy) Becomes Us Amongst Myselves Southern Lights Auburn Silhouette (none) Amongst Myselves Up Into the Air and Auburn Silhouette (none) Over the Edge * 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Arcane Future Wreck Future Wreck (NeuHarmony) Arcane The Plastic Eaters Future Wreck (NeuHarmony) Arcane The Visible Empty Future Wreck (NeuHarmony) Man Arcane Planet of the Blind Future Wreck (NeuHarmony) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Paul Lawler. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Resurrection" by Max van Richter on NeuHarmony Records. The Vinyl Starter will be from the LP "Sonanze" by Roberto Cacciapaglia on Ohr Records and released in 1976 in SQ Quad. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 22 20:17:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FD5D3BF19; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:17:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 04:16:45 +0800 From: Randolf Arriola Subject: Re: rc-50 feedback To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <00c601c76cbf$049f71a0$6e01a8c0@embryo> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=response Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <20070322122134.enf5pjfp74cs88wc@www.wightman.ca> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:17:02 +0000 (UTC) Hi PAul, It was a brilliant discovery and is actually very easy to do! Thanks to the wonderful folks of LD I'm much happier with my RC50 now. :) 1. Click on Sys button and scroll to Input/Outputs and Set input/utputs to "Main" 2. Use a Y cable to connect the Left and Right of "SubOut" and connect the mini stereojack to the input of "Aux In". 3. Set overdub to "Replace" 4. Try at first to set your "Aux Input knob" at half of your Gtr Input level knob. You are now ready! Your very first phrase captured would loop as normal. Now step on to overdub and your new found feedback feature is in action... Try it. :) Randolf Arriola (aka the embryo) Hp 97584919 http://www.soundclick.com/bands/5/theembryo.htm http://www.myspace.com/the_embryo ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 12:21 AM Subject: rc-50 feedback >I was looking through the archives and found mention of a workaround to >have some sort of feedback control with the rc-50. I'm borrowing one for a >few days and wondered if someone could let me know how that works and how >to set it up. > > Thanks, > > Paul Haslem > Ontario, Canada > www.dulcify.ca > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 22 20:31:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EE5A23BF1B; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:31:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SmartMax-AuthUser: mark@markfrancombe.com Message-ID: <00fb01c76cc1$0a34aa20$5a01a8c0@mark> From: "markfrancombe.com" To: "rithma music" , References: Subject: Re: Question about cotrolling EDP parameter presets with FCB1010 CAUTION LONG MAIL TO ANNOY RICK with even longer subject line! HA HA HA!! Antidisestablismentarianism Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:31:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F8_01C76CC9.6B99B410" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:31:29 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01C76CC9.6B99B410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Rithma OK, Lets fix this programming the FCB1010 issue once and for all: Its EASY OK... ? First... what numbers do we wanna program for the EDP??? MIDI NOTE NUMBERS. Which ones? (OK a little tricky) HOW TO FIGURE THE NUMBERS OUT Its the notes stated in the manual PLUS the number you have entered in = Source# (Press Parameters 3 times and multiply once) The reason for this "offset" number is a little obscure and esoteric and = the reason why the default number is 36 is completely mystifying, = however it is, it doesnt matter and it could be any number there. So in the manual it says that RECORD is note number 2, SO.. if your = offset number is 36, you need to program 38 into the footswitch on the = FCB1010. (I realise Rithma that you bought your EDP off someone in the street so = prob dont have the manual, so I have pasted the numbers at the bottom of = this mail) Simple!!! SO now to the footpedal! First we set the global midi channel. Now this is where some people have = some confusion. IT IS NOT TRUE that the FCB1010 can only send on one = midi channel, but that EACH MIDI FUNCTION whether its the "send midi = note" or "program change" etc... each one can only be a set midi = channel, and the foot pedal can send 5X program changes (so therefore on = 5 different midi channels if you want) 2X control change messages, 2 = Expression pedal messages (cos theres 2 expression pedals ha ha) and = BINGO (but Boo hiss gah that theres only one) ONE MISERABLE note = message... but thats fine... we only have ONE EDP ... right??? SO lets set the midi channel for NOTE. 1. Hold down the DOWN pedal while you power the pedal up (now we are in = GLOBAL SETUP) 2.Is the Green Direct Select Button lit? If not press pedal 10 (Lets not = worry what this does, who cares eh??) the Green light is on... 3.Press pedal 10 (This is the pedal for NOTE selection) The MIDI CHAN = LED lights up, while the number in the display starts to flash 4. Choose the midi number you want (the one that the EDP is set to) by = using the expression pedal 1. 5. Press UP pedal to confirm 6. Press Down pedal for MORE than 3 seconds to exit Global mode. Then we program the pedals... and yes this takes time... 1) First Select the pedal you wish to program. 6 for example is my = RECORD button (little tricky to press... yes.. but out of the way so i = dont do it accidentally) 2) Press the DOWN button for longer than 3 seconds (enters pedal = programming mode) 3) We are now in "Switch mode", which we dont give a shit about so... = PRESS UP to continue... 4) We are now where we want to be. Are there any pedals lit up? Press = and HOLD to switch them on or off. 5) We want Pedal 10 lit (for a NOTE function), but all the others off. 6) Now we press Pedal 10 quick, it starts to blink. 7) Press UP to confirm that you wish to Re program this pedal, and the = number display starts to flash. 8) Use the Expression pedal to choose YOUR RECORD (or whatever) button = number, remember 2 plus your Source # offset number, mine is 38 9) UP to confirm 10) Long press of DOWN to leave programming area. Now program all your other EDP functions, and remember if you want a = bank set aside for changing your Presets THEN you will use Program = Change numbers NOT NOTE numbers. Voila!! m mark francombe marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com He writes for www.furthernoise.org=20 and works at www.transformlearning.com i Tunes: BUY MY MUSIC AT http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?id=3D1843107= 47 thank-yoo MIDI Vir tualButtons Note Source# Function Short descriptions C 0 ParameterButton Virtually presses the Parameter Button C# 1 empty D 2 RecordButton Virtually presses the Record Button D# 3 OverdubButton Virtually presses the Overdub Button E 4 MultiplyButton Virtually presses the Multiply Button F 5 InsertButton Virtually presses the Insert Button, depends on = InsertMode F# 6 MuteButton Virtually presses the Mute Button G 7 UndoButton Virtually presses the Undo Button G# 8 NextButton Virtually presses the Next Button A 9 ReplaceButton Virtually presses the "Replace Button" A# 10 SubstituteButton Virtually presses the "Substitute Button" B 11 InsertOnlyButton Virtually presses the Insert Button, regardless of = InsertMode C 12 SpeedButton Virtually presses the "HalfSpeed Button" C# 13 ReverseButton Virtually presses the "Reverse Button" DirectMIDI Note Source# Function Short descriptions offset D 14 SUSRecord Sustain Action Record D# 15 SUSOverdub Sustain Action Overdub E 16 SUSRoundMultiply Sustain Action Rounded Multiply F 17 SUSRoundedInsert Sustain Action Rounded Insert F# 18 SUSMute Sustain Action Mute G 19 ShortUndo Immediately execute the ShortUndo function (Undo to end) G# 20 SUSNextLoop Sustain Action NextLoop (NoteOn =3D NextLoop, NoteOff = =3D PreviousLoop) A 21 SUSReplace Sustain Action Replace A# 22 SUSSubstitute Sustain Action Substitute MIDI Command List Continued Reference - MIDI Control 7-5 B 23 SUSToggleReverse Sustain Action Reverse C 24 SUSToggleSpeed Sustain Action HalfSpeed C# 25 Reset Immediately reset current loop D 26 GeneralReset Immediately reset all loops D# 27 Exit Parameters Exit Parameter editing and return to Play state E 28 SUSUnroundedMultiply Sustain Action Unrounded Multiply F 29 SUSUnroundedInsert Sustain Action Unrounded Insert F# 30 SUSMute-Retrigger Sustain Action Mute-Retrigger (NoteOn =3D Mute, = NoteOff=3DRetrig.) G 31 LongUndo Immediately execute the LongUndo function G# 32 Forward Go into Forward A 33 Reverse Go into Reverse A# 34 FullSpeed Go into FullSpeed B 35 HalfSpeed Go into HalfSpeed C 36 SamplePlay Immediately restart the loop and play once C# 37 ReTrigger Immediately restart the loop and play forever D 38 ReAlign Restart the loop at next Global MIDI StartPoint D# 39 MuteReAlign Immediately Mute and restart the loop at next Global = MIDI StartPoint E 40 QuantMIDIStartSong Wait to next Local Loop StartPoint and then send = a StartSong F 41 MuteQuantMIDIStartSong Immediately Mute, then wait to next = StartPoint and send StartSong F# 42 StartPoint Set the StartPoint to the current spot in the loop G 43 QuantStartPoint Wait to next Global MIDI StartPoint and then set = the local StartPoint there G# 44 BeatTriggerSample Mute and wait for BeatSync, then trigger loop to = play once. Repeated BeatSyncs retrigger the loop. A 45 MIDIBeatSync Virtually send a BeatSync pulse by MIDI -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 8803 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! ------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01C76CC9.6B99B410 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Dear Rithma
    OK, Lets fix this programming the = FCB1010 issue=20 once and for all:
    Its EASY OK... ?
    First... what numbers do we wanna = program for the=20 EDP???
    MIDI NOTE NUMBERS.
    Which ones? (OK a little = tricky)
     
    HOW TO FIGURE THE NUMBERS=20 OUT
    Its the notes stated in the manual PLUS = the number=20 you have entered in Source# (Press Parameters 3 times and multiply=20 once)
    The reason for this "offset" number is = a little=20 obscure and esoteric and the reason why the default number is 36 is = completely=20 mystifying, however it is, it doesnt matter and it could be any number=20 there.
     
    So in the manual it says that RECORD is = note number=20 2, SO.. if your offset number is 36, you need to program 38 into=20 the footswitch on the FCB1010.
     
    (I realise Rithma that you bought your = EDP off=20 someone in the street so prob dont have the manual, so I have pasted the = numbers=20 at the bottom of this mail)
     
    Simple!!!
     
    SO now to the footpedal!
     
    First we set the = global midi=20 channel. Now this is where some people have some = confusion. IT=20 IS NOT TRUE that the FCB1010 can only send on one midi channel, but that = EACH=20 MIDI FUNCTION whether its the "send midi note" or "program change" = etc...=20 each one can only be a set midi channel, and the foot pedal can send 5X = program=20 changes (so therefore on 5 different midi channels if you want) 2X = control=20 change messages, 2 Expression pedal messages (cos theres 2 expression = pedals ha=20 ha) and BINGO (but Boo hiss gah that theres only one) ONE MISERABLE note = message... but thats fine... we only have ONE EDP ... = right???
     
    SO lets set the midi channel for = NOTE.
     
    1. Hold down the DOWN pedal while you = power the=20 pedal up (now we are in GLOBAL SETUP)
    2.Is the Green Direct Select Button = lit? If not=20 press pedal 10 (Lets not worry what this does, who cares eh??) the Green = light=20 is on...
    3.Press pedal 10 (This is the pedal for = NOTE=20 selection) The MIDI CHAN LED lights up, while the number in the display = starts=20 to flash
    4. Choose the midi number you want (the = one that=20 the EDP is set to) by using the expression pedal 1.
    5. Press UP pedal to = confirm
    6. Press Down pedal for MORE than 3 = seconds to exit=20 Global mode.
     
    Then we=20 program the=20 pedals... and yes this takes time...
     
    1) First Select the pedal you wish to program. 6 for example is my = RECORD=20 button (little tricky to press... yes.. but out of the way so i dont do = it=20 accidentally)
    2) Press the DOWN button for longer than 3 seconds = (enters=20 pedal programming mode)
    3) We are now in "Switch mode", which we dont give a shit about = so... PRESS=20 UP to continue...
    4)  We are now where we want to be. Are there any pedals lit = up? Press=20 and HOLD to switch them on or off.
    5) We want Pedal 10 lit (for a NOTE function), but all the others=20 off.
    6) Now we press Pedal 10 quick, it starts to blink.
    7) Press UP to confirm that you wish to Re program this pedal, and = the=20 number display starts to flash.
    8) Use the Expression pedal to choose YOUR RECORD (or whatever) = button=20 number, remember 2 plus your Source # offset number, mine is 38
    9) UP to confirm
    10) Long press of DOWN to leave programming area.
     
    Now program all your other EDP functions, and remember if you want = a bank=20 set aside for changing your Presets THEN you will use Program Change = numbers NOT=20 NOTE numbers.
     
    Voila!!
     
     
    m
     
     
     
    mark francombe
    marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com
    He = writes for=20 www.furthernoise.org
    and = works at=20 www.transformlearning.comi=20 Tunes: BUY MY MUSIC AT
    http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?i= d=3D184310747
     thank-yoo
     
     

    MIDI Vir tualButtons

    Note Source# Function Short = descriptions

    C 0 ParameterButton Virtually presses the Parameter = Button

    C# 1 empty

    D 2 RecordButton Virtually presses the Record Button

    D# 3 OverdubButton Virtually presses the Overdub = Button

    E 4 MultiplyButton Virtually presses the Multiply = Button

    F 5 InsertButton Virtually presses the Insert Button, = depends on=20 InsertMode

    F# 6 MuteButton Virtually presses the Mute Button

    G 7 UndoButton Virtually presses the Undo Button

    G# 8 NextButton Virtually presses the Next Button

    A 9 ReplaceButton Virtually presses the =93Replace = Button=94

    A# 10 SubstituteButton Virtually presses the = =93Substitute=20 Button=94

    B 11 InsertOnlyButton Virtually presses the Insert = Button,=20 regardless of InsertMode

    C 12 SpeedButton Virtually presses the =93HalfSpeed = Button=94

    C# 13 ReverseButton Virtually presses the =93Reverse=20 Button=94

    DirectMIDI

    Note Source# Function Short descriptions

    offset

    D 14 SUSRecord Sustain Action Record

    D# 15 SUSOverdub Sustain Action Overdub

    E 16 SUSRoundMultiply Sustain Action Rounded = Multiply

    F 17 SUSRoundedInsert Sustain Action Rounded Insert

    F# 18 SUSMute Sustain Action Mute

    G 19 ShortUndo Immediately execute the ShortUndo = function (Undo to=20 end)

    G# 20 SUSNextLoop Sustain Action NextLoop (NoteOn =3D = NextLoop,=20 NoteOff =3D PreviousLoop)

    A 21 SUSReplace Sustain Action Replace

    A# 22 SUSSubstitute Sustain Action = Substitute

    MIDI Command List

    Continued

    Reference - MIDI Control 7-5

    B 23 SUSToggleReverse Sustain Action=20 Reverse

    C 24 SUSToggleSpeed Sustain Action=20 HalfSpeed

    C# 25 Reset Immediately reset current = loop

    D 26 GeneralReset Immediately reset all=20 loops

    D# 27 Exit Parameters Exit Parameter = editing and=20 return to Play state

    E 28 SUSUnroundedMultiply Sustain Action = Unrounded=20 Multiply

    F 29 SUSUnroundedInsert Sustain Action = Unrounded=20 Insert

    F# 30 SUSMute-Retrigger Sustain Action = Mute-Retrigger=20 (NoteOn =3D Mute, NoteOff=3DRetrig.)

    G 31 LongUndo Immediately execute the = LongUndo=20 function

    G# 32 Forward Go into Forward

    A 33 Reverse Go into Reverse

    A# 34 FullSpeed Go into = FullSpeed

    B 35 HalfSpeed Go into = HalfSpeed

    C 36 SamplePlay Immediately restart the = loop and play=20 once

    C# 37 ReTrigger Immediately restart the = loop and play=20 forever

    D 38 ReAlign Restart the loop at next = Global MIDI=20 StartPoint

    D# 39 MuteReAlign Immediately Mute and = restart the=20 loop at next Global MIDI StartPoint

    E 40 QuantMIDIStartSong Wait to next = Local Loop=20 StartPoint and then send a StartSong

    F 41 MuteQuantMIDIStartSong Immediately = Mute, then=20 wait to next StartPoint and send StartSong

    F# 42 StartPoint Set the StartPoint to = the current=20 spot in the loop

    G 43 QuantStartPoint Wait to next Global = MIDI=20 StartPoint and then set the local StartPoint there

    G# 44 BeatTriggerSample Mute and wait for = BeatSync,=20 then trigger loop to play once. Repeated BeatSyncs

    retrigger the loop.

    A 45 MIDIBeatSync Virtually send a = BeatSync pulse by=20 MIDI

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    ------=_NextPart_000_00F8_01C76CC9.6B99B410-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 22 20:31:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 685383BF24; Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:31:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SmartMax-AuthUser: mark@markfrancombe.com Message-ID: <00fc01c76cc1$0f8d39b0$5a01a8c0@mark> From: "markfrancombe.com" To: References: <01b501c76c54$6f5e1d40$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Subject: Re: How to reduce the DAILY DIGEST to one post a day Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:31:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:31:30 +0000 (UTC) I dream of getting the daily digest all in one mail... for some reason that I cannot fathom I get all LD mails as an attatchment that I have to read the titles of and decide if I wanna read... none of my other lists respond in that way, I have mentioned it to Kim before and he just confused me with some complex and esoteric mumbo jumbo, but maybe I like it like this after all, you seem to be having real probs, Rick! m mark francombe marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com He writes for www.furthernoise.org and works at www.transformlearning.com i Tunes: BUY MY MUSIC AT http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?id=184310747 thank-you -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 01:15:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98DC13BF1C; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 01:15:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Qua Veda" To: Subject: RE: Live 4 way co-located music Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:15:16 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcdpMHs45PrND3bNTya0SR9rHVlF4wAGxnGwAOcVaUA= In-Reply-To: <000f01c7694b$cd3d2a70$1001a8c0@succubus> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Message-Id: <20070322181878.SM04908@quahome> X-RBL-Warning: REVDNS: This E-mail was sent from a MUA/MTA 206.212.233.27 with no reverse DNS entry. X-Declude-Sender: qua@oregon.com [206.212.233.27] X-Declude-Spoolname: D2ae305c200004043.smd X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail (www.declude.com) for spam. Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 01:15:24 +0000 (UTC) A fascinating, perhaps historic, event! Did anyone attend this? In person? I believe this was not a mass improvisation. I'm curious to know how the musicians were 'directed' , by the 'score'. E.g. What kind of 'cues' were in the 4walls video. -Qua A Live Telepresence Four Way Co-Located Music Improvisation Concert THIS Thursday, March 22, 2007 @ 5:00 p.m. Engineering 2 Room 506, 510 (studio) Can't Attend? Tune in to a LIVE STREAM http://www.arts.rpi.edu/streaming/arts/iear_live.asx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 08:44:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97A1C3BEF1; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:44:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=dm61iJFkpMV6ZM9oV+6FBjMqzqZ3NsVbM5T1XWVVFc8D++6s3yxPPuUztJ165Ejh2pfKsx9zEOpNpY/ehebLW9fVKoyorYsX1/T31ZdljXe3qn11LonjZ2VvsdHKEuu2s3UwVZQs0b9oNOfz3BknxfwQJ/6RLDxYZNxpX0ri2vM=; X-YMail-OSG: _HMpY6UVM1kBwuI.sQfHYmkeKKSTt_iG.M2tTpR_LsC_KHvtwuHKUBtV08BD8uZ1OoY9YqCV21yXqW8oGQNeEgLUmf7GCdznnWzbe5uR8Gq.yQn7Co.Nu62mspnjNHIEsNtlqIxDUqiMy0bBsquAwbUX5A-- Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 01:44:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: The Word is Out! Sell Your EDP's! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <146148.71155.qm@web35107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <739262.56439.qm@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:44:19 +0000 (UTC) yeah, so is Billy boy gates any comments on his new vista? cheerios Luis > Ambition alone is not justification for jamming > something up the world's/society's/etc. ass. Adoph > Hitler was pretty ambitious. > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Bored stiff? Loosen up... 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Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 08:50:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 32A6B3BEF6; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=ObPVell9YS9OAVwTS1g0wSQiwc9ozh/LIf3gPvBO1kFApUYCN+UgOUuBOBbj38rdCH7Yyxwf3KSTm08tMLsJhZt8l0zfZ7iEzPDbcoLFE8XAjwTVwcFZZBxerLsr2kk1pkvCQO8odFpX3RDAp1i+ynVV/aU2poJEvmr5GPXQYBo=; X-YMail-OSG: zjtQ0jAVM1lhACJF_euoASNASiU2gP1bUp1j0vhlZSZMuFpRIDFwlKhaU8YwajMVtQi4kxZfQQ9WsIqmEs9SYRG.GVxO3ZEFBCXLM6k5AHbOR6RAyn0esqv2ORcgTmNW_FrJd3kOQG6qynKsGiJETZdowA-- Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 01:50:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: The Word is Out! Sell Your EDP's! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <631059.43199.qm@web35103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <639869.28977.qm@web38610.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:50:09 +0000 (UTC) that kid certainly does a better demostration of the looper as the other RC-50 wanker(not to offend any Paul Hansen fans:-) maybe his toys were financed by digitech! Luis --- Paul Richards wrote: > (I've never known Yahoo to start playing a video on > its main page.) > > I don't think I said it did, did I, ye of the dry > (attempted) wit. > > (Vitriol) > > Hahaha. I think I remember all the nasty comments > about the guy that did the Boss demo of the RC-50. > Gimme a fuckin' break. > > As I implied, though. It's just another example of > some kid's parents dough that financed his > "collection" of gear. I've known plenty of those > types. In fact, I still have a couple of their > "albums" that I save as a kind of music house of > horrors (one from my ex-boss's kid that had to be an > example of the worst crap ever promulgated on an > unsuspecting public - next to American Idol > applicants, of course). > > And, just for the record, I'm a looper that > doesn't do drone-y stuff (currently). I play mostly > typically-structured rock with extended solos. > Hence, I have no problem with 'traditional' rock or > soul. > > > Jon Southwood wrote: > I've never known Yahoo to start playing a video on > its main page. > > I'm surprised at the vitriol expended on this kid's > video, though. An 11 yr-old who's fairly competent > on a handful of instruments uses looping to cover a > James Brown song, while hamming it up. Let's break > it down: > > - 11 yrs old --- there are plenty of vids on YouTube > of adults with less skillz than this kid > - Covering a JB song --- this is prolly the biggest > offense, right? I mean live looping should only be > reserved for a small handful of music types: the > ephemeral improvisation, sound sculpture, > drone+noodle (aka frippertronics), reichian > minimalism, and guitar-turntablism...right out are: > jazzer vamp+noodle (jazzer vamp != fripp drone), pop > song structures, and above all--*cover* tunes. Let's > face it, we should be thankful there are 11 yr olds > who know who JB is, let alone are interested in > playing his music. It could've been a looping cover > of a Paris Hilton song. > - hamming it up --- G-d forbid someone using a > looper exhibits stage presence > > Before I get accused of being an > improvisation-sound-sculputure-frippertronic-reich-turntablism-avant-garde-bleep-bloop > hater, know that I've done more than my fair share > of ebow-saturated drone+noodles and reichian > minimalist pieces, some free improv, some sound > sculpture, and much of my chamber music could > certainly fall into the bleep/bloop category. > > Yeah, an 11 yr old's brand of hamming it up can be a > bit annoying, but if someone played the hell out of > that song while shoe-gazing, it would suck far worse > than what that kid did. > > Cheers, > > Jon Southwood > > On 3/21/07, Paul Richards > wrote: Actually, it > was presented on Yahoo's main page when I went to > Yahoo. I didn't specifically LOOK for this ham. > > 'Wonder how much his parents spent on all those > music gear items to allow his "haminess" to bloom? > > -- > Paul Richards > > ---- Kevin Cheli-Colando > wrote: > > > OUCH! Harsh. > > > > No doubt. > > > > And how is his talent in your face when you have > to go to a website to > > watch it anyway? Sheesh. You don't have any kids > do you? > > > > > > (Video Games or James Brown covers) > > > > > > > > Video game development has my vote! One less > meatball jamming his > > > > "talent" in my face. > > > > And lastly, I never said anything about developing > video games, I meant > > playing them. > > > > Kevin > > -- > > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be > the body and to have a > > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the > root cause of all trouble. > > > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 08:57:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4857F3BEFE; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:57:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=PKqH+FVz0WRZ1upo+jzTTyH9WYgdNz4pH4OsoYO6aB2CBCefjNf2HPMBcStPZYvDtjtt4lnPpagqsN70u75LrhE7krBEqKdrkkZIan8uxyPdqWMYxXl7/1bV9GSvIp9D9f3GkgmS1cH6eTF4w6ORMOtIw4OdZ1PVAInpxy0E7ck=; X-YMail-OSG: ikEdlKYVM1lovxGQA38IhzlYk_uvQUq7cjycO0hBKh.vJRX8jlClJo2pFYvZQ0Uee_rK_qTjCELt6zk.XD4_3nfvPJUDiTXInon82cOMk7Pk.lbh7dp6m0aWI3ARbuQvy9r4IXewB4ZiO8mw87yhzlLxCQ-- Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 01:57:51 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: The Word is Out! Sell Your EDP's! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <146148.71155.qm@web35107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <734793.66411.qm@web38615.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:57:54 +0000 (UTC) dont concentrate too much on the fact that he is using a digitechs jamman looper and youll be ok Paul,the audience doesnt give a flyin fuck about it,the kid is having fun with daddy i wish my son could do it! he just takes my mic away when i am practicing and starts burping,farting and screaming,dont get me wrong is cool for the first 5 minutes... Luis --- Paul Richards wrote: > I was wondering when the uncrowned "King of the > Looper's Delight" board would respond. > > (What could possibly be bad about that?) > > Well, I can think of one reason. The world will > have to listen someones shit like his (possibly) > someday like mostly what exists now in the music > world. > > Ambition alone is not justification for jamming > something up the world's/society's/etc. ass. Adoph > Hitler was pretty ambitious. > > RICK WALKER wrote: > Paul Richards wrote: > "Actually, it was presented on Yahoo's main page > when I went to Yahoo. I > didn't specifically LOOK for this ham. > 'Wonder how much his parents spent on all those > music gear items to allow > his "haminess" to bloom?" > > > Man, Paul, you really sound bitter. > > This kid played bass guitar, rhythm guitar, lead > guitar, lead organ, lead > saxaphone, > sang well and even danced pretty > decently................and he's 11 fucking > years young. > > What could possibly be bad about that? What could > possibly be wrong with > his parents supporting > him to the very best of their ability. Why shouldn't > his talent be > supported? > > Why do you make music, my friend? What do you do > that is so morally and > aesthetically superior to > the obvious joy that this kid has for music? > > Lighten up on this kid. Jeez! > > Rick Walker > > > -- > > > > > --------------------------------- > The fish are biting. > Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! 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Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 11:47:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EDDB93BF00; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 11:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <09257F5A-1617-42F0-B055-F86FD5418DEF@bernhardwagner.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bernhard Wagner LD Subject: Re: volume question Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:46:55 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: <72y6q.A.mWH.047AGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 11:47:00 +0000 (UTC) Michael I'd recommend to use the hottest possible levels starting from the source (with or without distorting, depending on your taste). The reason is: the "pure information" comes from the source (i.e. guitar). If you turn down the volume at the source and pump it up at the end or somewhere underway, these intermediate amplifiers have to augment information that isn't there. It's as if you take a 10 MPixel camera and configure it to shoot a picture at 1 MPixel and then use Photoshop to blow it up to 10M. Photoshop will introduce a lot of "noise" into the picture when blowing it up, because it has to "pretend" information that wasn't given from the start. I'd been wondering why my sound was rather hissy until I figured out that I hadn't been using enough of the input headroom of the EDP but had increased the output level instead. Bernhard On 22.03.2007, at 19:52, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > is there a "rule" regarding volume settings, i.e. what should be > the hottest? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 12:34:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4A52A3BF0F; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:34:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <01b501c76c54$6f5e1d40$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <01b501c76c54$6f5e1d40$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <2F80159D-106B-4215-A6EA-59EEB374E6E6@bernhardwagner.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bernhard Wagner LD Subject: Re: How to reduce the DAILY DIGEST to one post a day Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:34:03 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:34:08 +0000 (UTC) Finally I understand why your posts don't stay within a thread but regularly seem to start a new one even if in the middle of an ongoing discussion: Because you don't use REPLY! I actually consider hitting REPLY advantageous: a special (normally invisible) mail header is retained that helps automatic threading tools to maintain the relationship between posts (what is called "threading", see the section "References" in http://cr.yp.to/immhf/ thread.html or section "9.2. A.2. Reply messages" in http:// www.zvon.org/tmRFC/RFC2822/Output/chapter9.html). I fully agree with the policy that previous posts should be quoted only where needed and otherwise trimmed down. But please do use REPLY: it makes following a discussion thread much easier. This applies particularly to automatic threading tools. By the same token: It's better NOT to use REPLY (just to copy the LD posting address) when starting a new thread (otherwise the conceptually new thread will technically appear as a response to some other, unrelated thread). Thanx Bernhard On 22.03.2007, at 08:33, RICK WALKER wrote: > posters continually disregard the request to quit hitting REPLY > when they answer a post. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 12:59:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4513F3BF17; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:59:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAPJrA0bUSnILh2dsb2JhbACPKAEBAQgOKpV8 Message-ID: <4603CF55.8020008@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:00:05 +0000 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: How to reduce the DAILY DIGEST to one post a day References: <01b501c76c54$6f5e1d40$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <2F80159D-106B-4215-A6EA-59EEB374E6E6@bernhardwagner.net> In-Reply-To: <2F80159D-106B-4215-A6EA-59EEB374E6E6@bernhardwagner.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Scanned with ClamAV Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:59:52 +0000 (UTC) Bernhard Wagner LD wrote: > Finally I understand why your posts don't stay within a thread but > regularly seem to start a new one even if in the middle of an ongoing > discussion: Because you don't use REPLY! > Hang on a minute there ;-) Rick's posts don't thread because he's uses the digest version of list. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 13:09:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 942033BF16; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <16804539.1174655386866.JavaMail.root@web17> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 6:09:46 -0700 From: Paul Richards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The Word is Out! Sell Your EDP's! Cc: "L.A. Angulo" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Actually, I'm not one of the "looper snobs" on this board. You know, the ones that continually bash Roland for the RC-50. -- Paul Richards ---- "L.A. Angulo" wrote: > dont concentrate too much on the fact that he is using > a digitechs jamman looper and youll be ok Paul,the > audience doesnt give a flyin fuck about it,the kid is > having fun with daddy i wish my son could do it! he > just takes my mic away when i am practicing and starts > burping,farting and screaming,dont get me wrong is > cool for the first 5 minutes... > Luis > > --- Paul Richards wrote: > > > I was wondering when the uncrowned "King of the > > Looper's Delight" board would respond. > > > > (What could possibly be bad about that?) > > > > Well, I can think of one reason. The world will > > have to listen someones shit like his (possibly) > > someday like mostly what exists now in the music > > world. > > > > Ambition alone is not justification for jamming > > something up the world's/society's/etc. ass. Adoph > > Hitler was pretty ambitious. > > > > RICK WALKER wrote: > > Paul Richards wrote: > > "Actually, it was presented on Yahoo's main page > > when I went to Yahoo. I > > didn't specifically LOOK for this ham. > > 'Wonder how much his parents spent on all those > > music gear items to allow > > his "haminess" to bloom?" > > > > > > Man, Paul, you really sound bitter. > > > > This kid played bass guitar, rhythm guitar, lead > > guitar, lead organ, lead > > saxaphone, > > sang well and even danced pretty > > decently................and he's 11 fucking > > years young. > > > > What could possibly be bad about that? What could > > possibly be wrong with > > his parents supporting > > him to the very best of their ability. Why shouldn't > > his talent be > > supported? > > > > Why do you make music, my friend? What do you do > > that is so morally and > > aesthetically superior to > > the obvious joy that this kid has for music? > > > > Lighten up on this kid. Jeez! > > > > Rick Walker > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > The fish are biting. > > Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search > Marketing. > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. > http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 13:14:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 646633BF14; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:14:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <4EACEBE07FEB8E49944162AE8AC2DDC50E2CDB4E@emss01m15.us.lmco.com> References: <4EACEBE07FEB8E49944162AE8AC2DDC50E2CDB4E@emss01m15.us.lmco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-927432619 Message-Id: From: Bernhard Wagner LD Subject: Re: Sample Dump EDP and OS X Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:14:04 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:14:09 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-927432619 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On this page http://bernhardwagner.net/soundz/index.html#utility you can find a tool for dumping Echoplex Loops. However it's been realized on a very old Mac with OS 7.5.3, Max 3.0 and won't work on a newer Mac. I've looked at the patcher, but porting it to Max 4.6.2 is not straightforward, because an essential object I used (msd "Load and send MIDI Sample Dump") is no longer available. Bernhard On 20.03.2007, at 17:37, Fuller, Joshua N wrote: > Is anyone here successfully using midi sample dump w/Macintosh OS > X, and if so what software are you using? --Apple-Mail-1-927432619 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
    On this = page


    you can find a tool for dumping Echoplex = Loops.

    However it's been realized on a very old Mac with OS 7.5.3, Max = 3.0 and won't work on a newer Mac.

    I've looked at the patcher, but porting it to Max 4.6.2 is not = straightforward, because an essential object I used (msd "Load and send = MIDI Sample Dump") is no longer available.

    Bernhard=A0

    On 20.03.2007, at 17:37, Fuller, = Joshua N wrote:

    Is anyone here = successfully using midi sample dump w/Macintosh OS X, and if so what = software are you = using?

    = --Apple-Mail-1-927432619-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 13:37:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E3CF03BF22; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:37:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <21429977.1174657029174.JavaMail.root@web17> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 6:37:09 -0700 From: Paul Richards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The Word is Out! Sell Your EDP's! Cc: "L.A. Angulo" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:37:11 +0000 (UTC) In his case, it's megalomania & greed. - Paul Richards ---- "L.A. Angulo" wrote: > yeah, so is Billy boy gates > any comments on his new vista? > cheerios > Luis > > > > > Ambition alone is not justification for jamming > > something up the world's/society's/etc. ass. Adoph > > Hitler was pretty ambitious. > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Bored stiff? Loosen up... > Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. > http://games.yahoo.com/games/front > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 15:25:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A45A63BF1A; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:25:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <09257F5A-1617-42F0-B055-F86FD5418DEF@bernhardwagner.net> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: volume question Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 11:25:38 -0400 In-Reply-To: <09257F5A-1617-42F0-B055-F86FD5418DEF@bernhardwagner.net> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 24126 Message-Id: <8C93B76A4E9675F-FA8-2170@WEBMAIL-RC13.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 152.163.16.98 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:25:49 +0000 (UTC) thnaks B-man.....your answer makes great sense to me.....so basically i=20 will have the "hottest" signal hitting the speakers and not trying to=20 pump things up at the speakers.....xcellent.....danka mucho.....michael http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ www.ct-collective.com -----Original Message----- From: loopdelightml-NDI3MDE=3D-@bernhardwagner.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 6:46 AM Subject: Re: volume question Michael=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I'd recommend to use the hottest possible levels starting from the=20 source (with or without distorting, depending on your taste).=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 18:57:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 566833BF00; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 18:57:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=x8ezvm7eilQaTPyay1A5/E/YTyHlmZSSixS5xieOYw1+YwrC6Sl7zztq7AwTt7ZEKUlI6F/74IJezSRT8RT1ZnKzeVOGSDwx59iUGzSgYSAmm3b1Sy8E9bv3DrJlDd9OJmxt5tVTfvyMAckph1alVOoygx4yiS95sQhtwwB8C7o= ; Message-ID: <20070323185706.32948.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 9Z3T1TkVM1lDKIS5M9nNhN8hAKqEs7dsxH7yIxGhaEB_1uzmMGTZ9NleWNW20WTSMrdptL_8YUmNT_MQPSYoYQgKNQAtvbvbDKCOdmUPy.sXGanuyTsOZVqNXRNQb_4Czqps4UxaVsvuS8Q- Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 11:57:06 -0700 (PDT) From: margaret noble Subject: what's up with sonicbids.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20070222175033.04740e98@sympatico.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 18:57:09 +0000 (UTC) hello list, i learned about sonic bids from a posting here awhile ago. if you don't already know about it... http://www.sonicbids.com anyways, i was about to plunge in and pay the fees to be a member and then i noticed that many/most of the bids you make for a gig has a 'submission fee.' and they arent cheap! is it worth it? have your gotten gigs? did they pay for your flight and accomodation ? what of experimental composers...is there a market for us there? not sure if i am feeling it but if you have some experience with this i would love to know more! Margaret Noble Audio Artist http://www.myspace.com/margaretnoble ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 19:03:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ABF853BF06; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:03:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hSFCM4ugHHWopZDeHcOU9FJ8UrL1guYrIgJEewd/OF5dQ4cq8fqLVvvFOS8wiR13EdoYHR2JC0Xvp96W5jamPGlRqn/gFqqBewnRWLZN3tBcj9HPZajObF5xyfrsSTVEnOb2+r+5LuPcM4vn2lGT1AY5/61kxzJ7ARFgj7lNX1o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=nGHdUhqPwPEfM0sy7+0jxfWHFmasC5xQ934asEooFYgKh4SzpjIUDy01By/an4OkCJbvRBA/7JoyZKUM6BuDB+fdvOZWevTDLy3fnwUgsaxp/DrOjn23BWHczKuZHKMPi5qGDOy/1qguHVHDRDpg5jUd40pBslFJDFV34bRWIqY= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 12:03:19 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: what's up with sonicbids.com In-Reply-To: <20070323185706.32948.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <6.2.5.6.2.20070222175033.04740e98@sympatico.ca> <20070323185706.32948.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:03:21 +0000 (UTC) All of the gigs I've ever seen there had at least a $10 submission fee, and none of them ever panned out for me. YMMV. On 3/23/07, margaret noble wrote: \ > anyways, i was about to plunge in and pay the fees to > be a member and then i noticed that many/most of the > bids you make for a gig has a > 'submission fee.' and they arent cheap! > > is it worth it? have your gotten gigs? did they pay > for your flight and accomodation ? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 19:04:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 683C93BF0F; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:04:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <20070323185706.32948.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070323185706.32948.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-14-948440207 Message-Id: From: monk Subject: Re: what's up with sonicbids.com Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 15:04:12 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:04:21 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-14-948440207 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Mar 23, 2007, at 2:57 PM, margaret noble wrote: > > what of experimental composers...is there a market for > us there? is there anywhere really? no, it's not really for experimental composers. but what is? it's really set up for pop bands. it does work, i've gotten a few gigs thru it. every gig lists the details separately, some pay expenses, some don't. monk@fuse.net --Apple-Mail-14-948440207 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
    On Mar 23, 2007, = at 2:57 PM, margaret noble wrote:


    what of experimental composers...is there a market = for

    us = there?=A0

    =

    is = there anywhere really?


    no, it's not really for = experimental composers. but what is?=A0 it's really set up for pop = bands. it does work, i've gotten a few gigs thru it. every gig lists the = details separately, some pay expenses, some don't.






    = --Apple-Mail-14-948440207-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 19:12:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78B443BF10; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:12:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <460426B4.5010607@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:12:52 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: what's up with sonicbids.com References: <20070323185706.32948.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20070323185706.32948.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:12:58 +0000 (UTC) I signed up for BMI this week (free), which comes with a free one-year subscription to Sonicbids. A friend of mine had gotten a few gigs, which probably makes it worthwhile even at $35, though you can't beat free. Here's a few other discounts you get with BMI: http://www.bmi.com/career/discounts Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 19:15:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5AE9A3BF0E; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:15:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <20070323185706.32948.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070323185706.32948.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4794ab25ba97b7856a3f6b9b286614f4@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: Re: what's up with sonicbids.com Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 13:15:20 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 19:15:30 +0000 (UTC) On Mar 23, 2007, at 12:57 PM, margaret noble wrote: > anyways, i was about to plunge in and pay the fees to > be a member and then i noticed that many/most of the > bids you make for a gig has a > 'submission fee.' and they arent cheap! Got a couple local gigs through sonicbids - more than paid for the =20 yearly membership. > what of experimental composers...is there a market for > us there? Not specifically but there are numerous "indie" festivals that may have =20= that niche. > not sure if i am feeling it but if you have some > experience with this i would love to know more! > > Marg=12aret Noble > Audio Artist > http://www.myspace.com/margaretnoble > > > > = _______________________________________________________________________=20= > _____________ > Don't pick lemons. > See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! 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Chiarman, Investigation and Debt Settlement Committe _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar - get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 21:02:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2B8313BEFA; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:02:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <4794ab25ba97b7856a3f6b9b286614f4@mac.com> References: <20070323185706.32948.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4794ab25ba97b7856a3f6b9b286614f4@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <58128D4B-0EE3-4328-843F-44BBA4BEE4EC@zoekeating.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Zoe Keating Subject: Re: what's up with sonicbids.com Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:02:23 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Server-Quench: ce5baa31-d981-11db-8cc9-001185d377ca X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZeQQAe DQsWCyJDRAw5JxtD RxQEKB1+J10RWB5K d2pXKltcMEE0QVZe QzNJGEkABQEoDjsx dVkOMEtfYVUzDkd1 UkhJRUJQFQ9oAxYD AVAYVQdzfw1Yen1x e0dlX29ZWUZ/akYz HkwqaW9nGSJgYGYZ UUMWcwtdc00ZKxoX OwF8VW5ZaG0Ge3th EwV2bzs6bHAHcH0M ElwBdg1NSk8dJDNu Dw8CFClgBgUYX20s LgAmYkUbGkcaOEQ+ Kh0qXldw X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:556/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: <4BmEaD.A.6RC.xBEBGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:02:42 +0000 (UTC) I signed on long ago when they first opened shop. Sonicbids is more =20 oriented towards mainstream music and there are not a lot of =20 opportunities for instrumental music, but there are some. In my opinion, Sonicbids is this: - you pay a fee to have your promo kit placed slightly above those of =20= the desperate hoards, so that there is more of a chance someone will =20 pay attention to you. the time-tested, tried and true way that musicians get work is still =20 - through personal connections and recommendations from trusted =20 sources. but MAYBE a Sonicbids gig will help you meet and been heard =20 by other people, who will lead to other people and other =20 people...etc....so on up the food chain until you are omnipresent and =20= people are recommending you all the time. (that goes for all gigs, =20 nothing special about the Sonicbids ones) I give myself a yearly promotional budget, and think of the =20 occasional Sonicbids submission as part of that. you need to be =20 selective however, or you are just throwing money away that might be =20 better spent on other promotional activities so, my experience with the service? I seem to have been "selected" for 75% the things I've applied =20 for...I think because there are not many experimental =20 instrumentalists in the pool and its a smaller pond than indie rock. HOWEVER....I have a beef with Sonicbids that I"ve been discussing =20 with them and which I think you should be warned about... 50% of the things I was "selected" for, the "promoter" has yet to =20 follow through - in several cases more than a year later. All the festival gigs and some radio thing happened.... But other =20 "opportunities", like reviews, compilations, shows at smaller venues, =20= internet radio - the promoters happily took my submission fee, =20 announced that I was "selected" then nothing happened and they have =20 never returned any of my follow-up emails (rarely do you get a phone =20 number). This seems sketchy to me. I began vetting the opportunities =20 up there more carefully (some have just a single webpage and its hard =20= to find out anything about them) and only submitting to things that I =20= can find out more about outside of Sonicbids. For a couple listings =20 up there, I ended up just bypassing Sonicbids, contacted the venues =20 and booked the shows myself....so it kind of called into question the =20= purpose of the service. But, I've been kept VERY busy these days, and =20= haven't used Sonicbids for some time. There are good things about it...if you're at the stage where you =20 just need to get out there and perform, I think its good. But there =20 needs to be a little more carefulness on their part in selecting the =20 opportunities and making sure these "promoters" have their act =20 together. I have the feeling they are just desperately trying to get =20 more and more content, and not thoroughly vetting it. Once a member =20 is "selected" Sonicbids is out of the picture. They are aware of the problem and seem receptive to feedback. It's a =20 small company and I like their concept because I'm all about DIY. =20 Since some of the opportunities are revolving, I suggested there be a =20= way for members to rate promoters/opportunities, kind of like you do =20 for sellers on Ebay. my 2 cents, Zoe On Mar 23, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Paul Mimlitsch wrote: > On Mar 23, 2007, at 12:57 PM, margaret noble wrote: >> anyways, i was about to plunge in and pay the fees to >> be a member and then i noticed that many/most of the >> bids you make for a gig has a >> 'submission fee.' and they arent cheap! > > Got a couple local gigs through sonicbids - more than paid for the =20 > yearly membership. > >> what of experimental composers...is there a market for >> us there? > > Not specifically but there are numerous "indie" festivals that may =20 > have that niche. > >> not sure if i am feeling it but if you have some >> experience with this i would love to know more! >> >> Marg=12aret Noble >> Audio Artist >> http://www.myspace.com/margaretnoble >> >> >> >> _____________________________________________________________________=20= >> _______________ >> Don't pick lemons. >> See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. >> http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 21:13:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 180843BF0C; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:13:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:13:18 -0500 From: "Weideman, Gary" Subject: New Repeater in 12-24 months ! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <1A86292AE9344645A031CA4E9C477245020C8BF9@ex2k.bankofamerica.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_dp9xD2HqOfIsFGeq5D1yXg)" Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Thread-topic: New Repeater in 12-24 months ! Thread-index: AcdtkBQP4TVK++saQ2ieHLRuPWDp+g== X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2007 21:13:18.0884 (UTC) FILETIME=[146E4E40:01C76D90] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:13:20 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_dp9xD2HqOfIsFGeq5D1yXg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Laguna Hills, California (March 19, 2007) - Newly formed SBD Music, Inc., based in Laguna Hills, Calif., has acquired Electrix Pro, Inc., a leader in manufacturing professional audio equipment. SBD Music, Inc. also announces they have appointed a board of directors consisting of Mark Buhler, Charles Dotson and Adam Scolaro. "We saw a tremendous opportunity to acquire a very well respected brand name in Electrix. We are planning to re-introduce new versions of the Electrix products over the next twelve to twenty four months", says Adam Scolaro, president of SBD Music, Inc. "We are going to continue manufacturing high quality products that Electrix is known for, and try to build and expand the product line", added Mark Buhler. --Boundary_(ID_dp9xD2HqOfIsFGeq5D1yXg) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

    Laguna Hills, California (March 19, 2007) – Newly formed SBD Music, Inc., based in Laguna Hills, Calif., has acquired Electrix Pro, Inc., a leader in manufacturing professional audio equipment.

    SBD Music, Inc. also announces they have appointed a board of directors consisting of Mark Buhler, Charles Dotson and Adam Scolaro.

     

    “We saw a tremendous opportunity to acquire a very well respected brand name in Electrix. We are planning to re-introduce new versions of the Electrix products over the next twelve to twenty four months”, says Adam Scolaro, president of SBD Music, Inc.

     

    “We are going to continue manufacturing high quality products that Electrix is known for, and try to build and expand the product line”, added Mark Buhler.

     

    --Boundary_(ID_dp9xD2HqOfIsFGeq5D1yXg)-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 21:18:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 96A063BF12; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:18:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <4794ab25ba97b7856a3f6b9b286614f4@mac.com> References: <20070323185706.32948.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4794ab25ba97b7856a3f6b9b286614f4@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <64144FB4-D48B-4D71-BD46-E5B15F10E23E@zoekeating.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Zoe Keating Subject: ps...the world's first looped cello horror film score? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:18:37 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Server-Quench: 128e7f70-d984-11db-8cc9-001185d377ca X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZeQQAe DQsWCyJDRAw5JxtD RxQEKB1+J10RWB5K d2pXKltcMEE0QVZe QzNJGEkABQEoDjsx dVkOMEtfYVUzDkd1 UkhJRUJQFQ9pCRYF BlAYVQdzfw1Yen1x e0dlX29ZWUZ/akYz HkwqaRRSIAZgYWcf V0IWdgRdcU1LfBcQ bQZ4VG5ZaG0De3th EwV2bzs6bHAHcH0M ElwBdg1NSk8dBiV6 AVYeHThnAkofQyl8 NFQoK0QHAA4VNUIq PFdpUl8cNxhaCgpE BUZXSCFYI1xJXCEs Fw4NNVco X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:556/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:18:47 +0000 (UTC) i just finished...like yesterday, the score to an indie horror movie. it was the first time i've gone a feature (i've done bits of documentaries and recently some commercials). i took the approach of watching the movie and improvising to certain key sections using the repeaters, while recording the whole time. then i selected the good parts and used those as a foundation for building the score in ableton live. i meant to switch back over to logic but i just ended up doing the entire 90 minute movie in ableton. the whole thing took 7 days and i used 2 microphones, one cello, a spoon and a pair of chopsticks. i'm actually happy with it (which is an extreme rarity for me!!). the whole improvising - looping - recording workflow was very seamless and quite satisfying in its immediacy. there are a lot of f***ed up things about our present day, but technologically speaking, it is a great time to be a musician. who knows how well the movie will do, maybe straight to dvd! it's really, really scary and the kind of thing i cannot actually watch. but if you can watch horror films its called "The Devil's Chair" and is by a UK director named Adam Mason From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 21:37:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4FC063BEF9; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:37:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=yDxyKmBAV87j5Wovi4VFwbN0w5mT1nflRZZBC+l93WmBgtJL+Sn6Wr3WkS+vhu12xQLREacpdRLhc6Gah5nGf1TpcNhxEdDdxcqnCT2PMO8GTq+/3Vryp1ZfidJROYK0rEQBD7YXY4ZaZQy++N9mo4IYq62Q+jo9nzt6ax6R5as=; X-YMail-OSG: IIOgdP8VM1nWMekcC9KO_E9e9B0fDvPZYn.SVxwJHmSmpXLwSRXM7IldMWgHFNKeub9TIragsd9OBJlAhWla8nN6LIhgPGPQ2UAw5W8DdCllqJluXOtzbFYnZZxMze5C_hrIW5AtjyLu8JNrTDlubX3lMQ-- Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 14:37:39 -0700 (PDT) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: New Repeater in 12-24 months ! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1A86292AE9344645A031CA4E9C477245020C8BF9@ex2k.bankofamerica.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <745726.7868.qm@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:37:46 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, and if anyone wants to paypal me money I'll take deposits for it because I'm sure it's right around the corner. I can practically taste it!Make sure you sell your current looper too. Send me the proceeds of that as well and I'll include special m@l3 1nh@nc3m3nt p1lz. Be welsh be salaried! Mark --- "Weideman, Gary" wrote: > Laguna Hills, California (March 19, 2007) - Newly > formed SBD Music, > Inc., based in Laguna Hills, Calif., has acquired > Electrix Pro, Inc., a > leader in manufacturing professional audio > equipment. > > SBD Music, Inc. also announces they have appointed a > board of directors > consisting of Mark Buhler, Charles Dotson and Adam > Scolaro. > > > > "We saw a tremendous opportunity to acquire a very > well respected brand > name in Electrix. We are planning to re-introduce > new versions of the > Electrix products over the next twelve to twenty > four months", says Adam > Scolaro, president of SBD Music, Inc. > > > > "We are going to continue manufacturing high quality > products that > Electrix is known for, and try to build and expand > the product line", > added Mark Buhler. > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! 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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 22:37:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CBAE03BF0A; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:37:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=kOlXkqvmWhorjaFuJ0AHWJ/AbylPbawZP6Jv8gu+MlbJspPEa00kidxDE92dVXXY/O0p1o9d81VC6IU7GlLphrJkopROiHpGcPoXLwacSo04cPZLa4P8/AMUJ9877gEdoQZk/S2/N4cUrAEuKNgyqba3cFGKlvup2fEsCGLMG5M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=ZcrWlYGM0ns9rmoniizlMc+4ENhnqYipHmG/tRK8Ckj1PHMwpx9TFzjmdINBXHHjOZ98LIP3GRzOVRwlqthGLJj3fkL1wtq+I8W/LLLCBBtlD9KTKt0+sd/ABHfQjQC2KTFeDM2WjqGpTh3fxtOGfm6CBune5eVFCxc9Xg2+ZgQ= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <64144FB4-D48B-4D71-BD46-E5B15F10E23E@zoekeating.com> References: <20070323185706.32948.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4794ab25ba97b7856a3f6b9b286614f4@mac.com> <64144FB4-D48B-4D71-BD46-E5B15F10E23E@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: ps...the world's first looped cello horror film score? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:36:56 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:37:04 +0000 (UTC) On 23 mar 2007, at 22.18, Zoe Keating wrote: > who knows how well the movie will do, maybe straight to dvd! it's > really, really scary and the kind of thing i cannot actually > watch. but if you can watch horror films its called "The Devil's > Chair" and is by a UK director named Adam Mason Wonderful, thanks for telling! I'll look around for it. I actually like horror movies for the music, since they often use music in a way I like. Right now "Silent Hill" is my fav and it led me into picking up all music recorded by Akira Yamaoka. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 22:59:54 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 232DA3BF04; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:59:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: woZTmIYVM1kkv64C8..h_Cv_QUxbBOpPyICcg3nnQ0yg4j0FxyOaWpNfl8py0zoETBIMU5Mvj406kLnhh4Koq3485TvEK9yRKETxgvGUFXT6hbz8izSd5XSp.qoIY69JiIQZzBjkDQUPToGoHzgTTwq80A-- Message-ID: <003101c76d9e$f495b220$4101a8c0@MICHAELPLISHKA> From: "Michael Plishka" To: References: <20070323185706.32948.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4794ab25ba97b7856a3f6b9b286614f4@mac.com> <64144FB4-D48B-4D71-BD46-E5B15F10E23E@zoekeating.com> Subject: Re: ps...the world's first looped cello horror film score? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:59:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 22:59:54 +0000 (UTC) Congrats Zoe!! Plish www.myspace.com/bohdanovich www.myspace.com/michaelplishka ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zoe Keating" To: Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: ps...the world's first looped cello horror film score? >i just finished...like yesterday, the score to an indie horror movie. > it was the first time i've gone a feature (i've done bits of > documentaries and recently some commercials). i took the approach of > watching the movie and improvising to certain key sections using the > repeaters, while recording the whole time. then i selected the good > parts and used those as a foundation for building the score in > ableton live. i meant to switch back over to logic but i just ended > up doing the entire 90 minute movie in ableton. the whole thing took > 7 days and i used 2 microphones, one cello, a spoon and a pair of > chopsticks. i'm actually happy with it (which is an extreme rarity > for me!!). the whole improvising - looping - recording workflow was > very seamless and quite satisfying in its immediacy. > > there are a lot of f***ed up things about our present day, but > technologically speaking, it is a great time to be a musician. > > who knows how well the movie will do, maybe straight to dvd! it's > really, really scary and the kind of thing i cannot actually watch. > but if you can watch horror films its called "The Devil's Chair" and > is by a UK director named Adam Mason > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 23:02:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E16EE3BF00; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=yip2Tiihj2Jo9rTOt/UPEVghnZ9dCLCt+c8Ll3J3ZK6EInbT5Mh5LtDDTNQRLXHyAmkUeNOWeHO+uYLxboq2TY3PpbVLHChboHRjt+kUgE2CZFyn5s2acXr9Fx+qdk770CkIczZXjd7gP3hGNgwiUf+NeM659QH5cDK80rTTCd0=; X-YMail-OSG: r8vib_wVM1nN9.4qzwzmCzBUUDjIBj7.bCEuJvgNzONQNeP0f3.__dK_gU4nttjkoxMMk4rV9uEBJ6T7XT0mlnQEtsuB4Gp8d3Q60XmQLYTyhnI5IsTEdUmd26opYBKbPz7XiJdGC2rtVw-- Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:02:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: ps...the world's first looped cello horror film score? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <112936.26446.qm@web43137.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:02:40 +0000 (UTC) --- Per Boysen wrote: > I actually > like horror movies for the music, since they often > use music in a way I like. That reminds me of 'Blair Witch II' (the score CD, NOT the soundtrack CD); a fairly bad movie with *great* music by Carter Burwell and David Torn. -t- ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/domains/?p=BESTDEAL From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 23:08:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B69753BF0E; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:08:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <46045DD6.4050004@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:08:06 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ps...the world's first looped cello horror film score? References: <112936.26446.qm@web43137.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <112936.26446.qm@web43137.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:08:10 +0000 (UTC) On this tip, "The Order" (aka 'the Sin Eater'), one of the WORST movies I've EVER seen, has an amazing soundtrack entirely scored by Torn. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > That reminds me of 'Blair Witch II' (the score CD, NOT > the soundtrack CD); a fairly bad movie with *great* > music by Carter Burwell and David Torn. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 23 23:30:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 194DB3BF0C; Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:30:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=abaDG6r/qzRWlsX69TKuU5ZPVSCOH+A7zl16h3y2cTeoFn9RAPMFEVIcLmVIIV9YPpslE+RctuKVd3aKTh227q/HQZHFBRFPnT35C4D2OqQgZSrKtqLdPe1pOnyWL68yi1BYcN5Gx7VaT7UIx1aREsvhIKKbt5MbPqEEu8PecBg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=DoXJY89AWngSbvhxhclyo3inc2FSu88ftRHALsEaXZRb9LAbZTkcpRX6+VwjJP7dniRQ1igr9XDJ1bB9BdellmFQmKQ4Lcpes5Rr7DcWmDm9VekozQGbfDxV3hzVoVVKpHstgrBQuHDHRmLX2/WkZbYdgA4e759C+4xC9xTxC/0= Message-ID: <9ff9c5d10703231630q2cc75316s9b9d5836995fc1ae@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 16:30:13 -0700 From: "Nic Roozeboom" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ps...the world's first looped cello horror film score? In-Reply-To: <46045DD6.4050004@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_32051_1289531.1174692613110" References: <112936.26446.qm@web43137.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <46045DD6.4050004@mhorse.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 23:30:15 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_32051_1289531.1174692613110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline If anyone wants to keep track of the work, I find IMDB a handy resource. The film currently is still listed as post-production: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0837791/ Also: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0444156/ Nic ------=_Part_32051_1289531.1174692613110 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline If anyone wants to keep track of the work, I find IMDB a handy resource. The film currently is still listed as post-production:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0837791/

    Also:

    http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0444156/

    Nic
    ------=_Part_32051_1289531.1174692613110-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 24 00:02:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 60F643BF0B; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 00:02:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 20:00:21 -0400 (EDT) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: ps...the world's first looped cello horror film score? In-Reply-To: <112936.26446.qm@web43137.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: References: <112936.26446.qm@web43137.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 00:02:19 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, 23 Mar 2007, Tim Nelson wrote: > --- Per Boysen wrote: >> I actually >> like horror movies for the music, since they often >> use music in a way I like. > > That reminds me of 'Blair Witch II' (the score CD, NOT > the soundtrack CD); a fairly bad movie with *great* > music by Carter Burwell and David Torn. The Blair Witch II DVD is double-sided: one side DVD, other side score CD. It was cheaper to buy the DVD than hunt down the score CD :). best, Steve B Subscape Annex http://www.subscapeannex.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 24 00:02:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEFD93BF07; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 00:02:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: <20070323185706.32948.qmail@web81013.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4794ab25ba97b7856a3f6b9b286614f4@mac.com> <64144FB4-D48B-4D71-BD46-E5B15F10E23E@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-11-966361841 Message-Id: From: Zoe Keating Subject: Re: ps...the world's first looped cello horror film score? Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:02:53 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Server-Quench: 0567c8d8-d99b-11db-8cc9-001185d377ca X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZeQQAe DQsWCyJDRAw5JxtD RxQEKB1+J10RWB5K d2pXKltcMEE0QVZe QzNJGEkABQEoDjsx dVkOMEtfZlUzDkd1 UkhJRUJSFA9oAxYE AVAYVQdzfw1Yen1x e0dlX29ZWUZ/akYz HkwrFW9CLQNgaGQf V0gWdQJVck1KexlC OVgrXG5ZaGxVe3th EwV2bzs6bHAHcH0M ElwBdg1NSk8dJDNu DwgZW3NpAU0IDzo0 NRgqZUVUEkcLKVl6 NVwmQV8UexQfDglZ V0FKGjVePREPRi4u RRhRWlQTR1Ug X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:556/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-Virus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 00:02:59 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-11-966361841 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I was surprised at how much fun it was to write to. It's a very liberating genre because ANYTHING goes! On Mar 23, 2007, at 3:36 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > Wonderful, thanks for telling! I'll look around for it. I actually > like horror movies for the music, since they often use music in a > way I like. Right now "Silent Hill" is my fav and it led me into > picking up all music recorded by Akira Yamaoka. --Apple-Mail-11-966361841 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII I was surprised at how much fun it was to write to. It's a very liberating genre because ANYTHING goes!

    On Mar 23, 2007, at 3:36 PM, Per Boysen wrote:

    Wonderful, thanks for telling! I'll look around for it. I actually like horror movies for the music, since they often use music in a way I like. Right now "Silent Hill" is my fav and it led me into picking up all music recorded by Akira Yamaoka.


    --Apple-Mail-11-966361841-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 24 02:37:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD11D3BF0A; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 02:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: xIZPsE8VM1mzjXtL6Ex2pDV14TXmUhKQnv6DqHfhP9.bQcioZRsb4mkDC3BrmAzDN6AzV3vQiphjdU7Xs1wsantP0cri1qIkCKgqXcROPtOsU5LaZ8ug.ucFz9aRtkgMUfxpeNg3cwvXVUQULDKxT3vn Message-ID: <025301c76dbd$6681af10$4101a8c0@MICHAELPLISHKA> From: "Michael Plishka" To: Subject: Possible songwriting session Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:37:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0250_01C76D93.7CBF9960" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 02:37:51 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0250_01C76D93.7CBF9960 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Esteemed colleagues, in the Chicago area we have an opportunity to have = a songwriting workshop done my Bill Mallonee, formerly of the Vigilantes = of Love. Bill is man that's been in the "business" and made a go of it = writing and performing his own music (www.myspace.com/billmallonee) The = dates would be between April 23-26. Please let me know of any interest = ASAP as Bill is planning his road itinerary and needs to schedule = appropriately. ~peace~ Plish www.myspace.com/michaelplishka www.myspace.com/bohdanovich www.michaelplishka.com ------=_NextPart_000_0250_01C76D93.7CBF9960 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Esteemed colleagues, in the Chicago = area we have an=20 opportunity to have a songwriting workshop done my Bill Mallonee, = formerly of=20 the Vigilantes of Love. Bill is man that's been in the = "business" and=20 made a go of it writing and performing his own music (www.myspace.com/billmallonee= ) The=20 dates would be between April 23-26.  Please let me know of any = interest=20 ASAP as Bill is planning his road itinerary and needs to schedule=20 appropriately.
     
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    ------=_NextPart_000_0250_01C76D93.7CBF9960-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 24 08:12:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC42A3BF04; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 08:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 04:04:00 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to The AM/FM Show To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <4604E980.8080502@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 08:12:08 +0000 (UTC) THE AM/FM SHOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/amfm ======================================================================= My next stint on the AM/FM Show will be Saturday, March 24 at 6:00 am EDT/GMT-4, less than two hours from now. I will continue the special on E-dition Electronic Music Magazine's sampler CDs. I will also play music by Wolfram der Spyra who is in concert tonight at The Gatherings. Tune in to WMUH Allentown at 91.7 FM, broadcasting from the campus of Muhlenberg College. I alternate hosting the show with Bruce. When I am at the helm, the show features electronic, ambient, and spacemusic at the beginning, an eclectic mix of genres in the middle, and winds up with Progressive Rock. WMUH's web site is http://muhlenberg.edu/wmuh ====================================================================== Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 24 10:02:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D0EDC3BF0F; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 10:02:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <011f01c76dfb$76a14d90$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: How to reduce the DAILY DIGEST to one post a day Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 03:01:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=1.0 tests=AWL,DRUGS_ERECTILE autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: <5vBVX.A.sOD.ZcPBGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 10:02:01 +0000 (UTC) Bernhard wrote: "Finally I understand why your posts don't stay within a thread but regularly seem to start a new one even if in the middle of an ongoing discussion: Because you don't use REPLY!" Actually, Bernhard, when I discovered that it bothered you that I would occasionally change a thread title (usually because it seemed that the topic had veered off of the original thread) I began to religiously copy the subject heading of the thread to include in my subject head. I've been doing that for a couple of years now and I've tried to be fairly conscientious about it. Have you spotted anything in the last year where I failed to do that? Also, am I correct in finding out that because I haven't used 'REPLY' that my posts are not included in the threads? Is Andy correct that it works differently when you are responding to the Daily Digest posts? I actually put a lot of energy into quoting only the salient excerpts from earlier thread posts so that I don't gum up the Daily Digest. Personally, I just couldn't contend with the volume of mail if I were receiving individual e-mails. The volume of mail I receive constantly around the looping festivals and other touring that I do is pretty large. Then there are those Cialis adds to.......................lol. rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 24 10:43:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 575F13BF11; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 10:43:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=I7lMQjA65YPCpwssN864vx3aUt+k2hHdVh8INIDeEjfdTrEHFBTweonDPp3X4FynaLa4trPWAwl2JKlVaZB/u13jd/D92+NK9XaQihIWjc7kR8ErIyDXQ0bmPiOwMYmzIPs4YtP4so/0wtMdot0KNLePmf62BokK6NzZQ7TBJHA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=GcjuZvqcMNr7xdzOXO6TxcsiQ0QKOxr7GS4athnsnK3vt5DdgLX6+Iwg8wxObiA1xQTosbGPf5KWMwQRr0f2Kjemn+jYDJEreiXxE44NAFA864ROkQEW1qQ6++H7XotCVrx7Et8hswEip11yadrJhfV1uMbHZrEy4lexyLDWw9s= In-Reply-To: <011f01c76dfb$76a14d90$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <011f01c76dfb$76a14d90$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <180E8864-ED5E-49C4-8119-43D2682DE611@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: How to reduce the DAILY DIGEST to one post a day Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 11:43:33 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 10:43:40 +0000 (UTC) On 24 mar 2007, at 11.01, RICK WALKER wrote: > Personally, I just couldn't contend with the volume of mail if I > were receiving > individual e-mails. That's funny to hear, because the very same reason - "more efficient handling of the huge volume" - is why I choose to use only individual mails from all lists I subscribe to ;-) Hear are some tricks I use: - Use filtering of incoming mails into list boxes - When you are in a mail box, click the column for how you want to sort the mails. I tend to jump between listing in chronological order and listing based on subject line So if for example a certain thread doesn't interest you, simply order after subject line, select all of them and hit the delete button. I know the Gmail online service works in a similar way, inside a web browser, but I'm able to do it double as fast on a local mail client where I get more control over how to set up shortcuts on the computer keys. I also set up temporary mail boxes for certain projects I'm working on and then I set up the filtering to drop incoming mails from important key persons into those boxes. After the gig, course or whatever the project might be, has has been due I take that box out of the local email client and archive it. Some times I drag a message into a project box because something in the discussion has a point that somehow relates to that particular project. Or I may copy it, if I also want to keep it in its original list box. On a local mail client with individual messages all these actions are just a matter grabbing something with the mouse and dropping it somewhere else. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 24 11:59:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3D09F3BF0C; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 11:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=AWL,SPF_SOFTFAIL X-Spam-Check-By: omail.authdirect.com Message-ID: <000601c76e0b$c962a7d0$b41a12ac@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: References: <011f01c76dfb$76a14d90$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <180E8864-ED5E-49C4-8119-43D2682DE611@gmail.com> Subject: Re: How to reduce the DAILY DIGEST to one post a day Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 05:58:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 11:59:04 +0000 (UTC) Per, are you sure you don't work for corporate America? ;) You use all the tricks we use at major IT companies. In addition to the personal mail I get - probably in the same range as others on this list - I also get hundreds of emails a day for work, and items that I actually have to read and respond to, some with attachments between 1-10MB in size, with multiple threads of conversations with them, multiple people copied, action items, responses to action items, etc. I have nearly a hundred offline folders in Outlook that I quickly move emails to based on category, person, urgency, etc. I am an email pack rat. I manage enough email in a day that would give most people a nervous breakdown. I find it easier to manage individual emails, using some of the methods you site below. And honestly, individual emails are easier for me too, because with digest mode, you have to wade and scan through a bunch of topics you may not even be interested in, whereas with individuals emails, if I find one topic I don't like, I delete all further incoming messages...like you indicate by sorting by subject. Another trick, which many of us power users also use is that we use a preview pane in Outlook. When I click on an email, I can see the first few lines of the body text below it. It allows me to scan very fast. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 4:43 AM Subject: Re: How to reduce the DAILY DIGEST to one post a day > On 24 mar 2007, at 11.01, RICK WALKER wrote: > >> Personally, I just couldn't contend with the volume of mail if I were >> receiving >> individual e-mails. > > > That's funny to hear, because the very same reason - "more efficient > handling of the huge volume" - is why I choose to use only individual > mails from all lists I subscribe to ;-) Hear are some tricks I use: > > - Use filtering of incoming mails into list boxes > - When you are in a mail box, click the column for how you want to sort > the mails. I tend to jump between listing in chronological order and > listing based on subject line > > So if for example a certain thread doesn't interest you, simply order > after subject line, select all of them and hit the delete button. I know > the Gmail online service works in a similar way, inside a web browser, > but I'm able to do it double as fast on a local mail client where I get > more control over how to set up shortcuts on the computer keys. > > I also set up temporary mail boxes for certain projects I'm working on > and then I set up the filtering to drop incoming mails from important key > persons into those boxes. After the gig, course or whatever the project > might be, has has been due I take that box out of the local email client > and archive it. > > Some times I drag a message into a project box because something in the > discussion has a point that somehow relates to that particular project. > Or I may copy it, if I also want to keep it in its original list box. On > a local mail client with individual messages all these actions are just a > matter grabbing something with the mouse and dropping it somewhere else. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 24 12:41:14 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66A6B3BF04; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 12:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SmartMax-AuthUser: mark@markfrancombe.com Message-ID: <00e001c76e11$b00efc60$5a01a8c0@mark> From: "markfrancombe.com" To: References: <180E8864-ED5E-49C4-8119-43D2682DE611@gmail.com> Subject: Re: How to reduce the DAILY DIGEST to one post a day Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:41:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 12:41:14 +0000 (UTC) > That's funny to hear, because the very same reason - "more efficient > handling of the huge volume" - is why I choose to use only individual > mails from all lists I subscribe to ;-) Hear are some tricks I use: > > Per Boysen But Im with Rick here.. your list of Tips just seemed like a hell of a lot of work to me, Per... I do make boxes for my customers, but they all send to a different mail address anyhow, hell a different computer altogether... I just dont have the energy or time to sit around tidying up my mail I just want to look at one window, and instantly read the subjects from all my mails, and press delete... do you have a day job Per? or are you freelancer? cos maybe I could do it if my home computer was also my work computer, but for me I hate to even touch the damn thing after working all day on one, I like to come home, cuddle the boy and play a bit of geetar, I stay clear of the "devils box"! m PS, what IS this "threading" buisiness... sounds great... doesnt that just happen in forums? or am I missing something that could solve my probs? mark francombe marks website is at www.markfrancombe.com He writes for www.furthernoise.org and works at www.transformlearning.com i Tunes: BUY MY MUSIC AT http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewArtist?id=184310747 thank-you -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 24 13:19:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E6943BF02; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:19:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=M0DDxItdXC3mSiEjggz1pP9OfRR4fKVwgoZqrv6sAjwn4tIVkmq982PtN9Q+52DhQASEI0MaXHbKiMWPrd0hS/lOKm95MernTceJPNVp8oXoxI8/tepU+fDUDFS/BYk/UtszzTF9vxaxNbamU3Y+YvOGIPnLaQ2i1WBnYKzng1w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=XF8QXA7vWhHIvJrIE6hyEak4dv+YKFzLW8M27rFtNqACtD9JqwaqbKidhJ9E0xGkxN+AnntMFhKClhIMGxJ7iKLUPvCKSFHYyp1JJp/BWJAfElQchrAWTrgTIi2Cf3ZJD+vdFnXlgtObx2W2Rn+NTR+JoV3m5A1HwSUGGad+ST0= In-Reply-To: <000601c76e0b$c962a7d0$b41a12ac@americas.hpqcorp.net> References: <011f01c76dfb$76a14d90$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <180E8864-ED5E-49C4-8119-43D2682DE611@gmail.com> <000601c76e0b$c962a7d0$b41a12ac@americas.hpqcorp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <92EA5B16-AD1D-4666-826A-2702B6B4E95B@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: How to reduce the DAILY DIGEST to one post a day Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:19:30 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:19:42 +0000 (UTC) On 24 mar 2007, at 13.41, markfrancombe.com wrote: > do you have a day job Per? or are you freelancer? On 24 mar 2007, at 12.58, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Per, are you sure you don't work for corporate America? ;) You use > all the tricks we use at major IT companies. ;-) He, he.... no, no. I'm just a freelancer (in many areas). Since I only get paid when I deliver I need to keep my tools sharp and fast, or I will starve. > Another trick, which many of us power users also use is that we use > a preview pane in Outlook. When I click on an email, I can see the > first few lines of the body text below it. It allows me to scan > very fast. I too used Outlook before, when I was working mainly with Windows machines, but I didn't use the preview pane because of the virus risk. Today I work more with Macs and I have found the Apple Mail good enough. For back-up and syncing on Windows Office I used to export a huge file that could be imported to other machines but on the Mac I simply chain the machines through firewire and move the content of the Apple Mail folder to the same folder on the new machine. It's a one minute operation. Whatever email, or BBS conference, application I'm using I like to set it up as three main windows. On the left I have all the boxes and sub boxes (inbox, outgoing, projects etc), in the center/right I have the box's content of separate messages listed in the top window (author, date and subject line)and the window below displaying the text of the message selected in the top window. That way I can see three levels of my correspondence in a just one glance. It saves a lot of time and "brain cycles" ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 24 14:06:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 287CD3BF0D; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:06:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 546977609 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C76E1D.946E5B63" Subject: RE: ps...the world's first looped cello horror film score? Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:06:12 -0000 Message-ID: <1BB076E4C332F9469148F41725F17A720204DD7E@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: ps...the world's first looped cello horror film score? Thread-Index: AcduG1lLa3N+fF8QS22nQ4szukoZcQ== References: <64144FB4-D48B-4D71-BD46-E5B15F10E23E@zoekeating.com> From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2007 14:06:12.0649 (UTC) FILETIME=[946AE990:01C76E1D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:06:15 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C76E1D.946E5B63 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >>i just finished...like yesterday, the score to an indie horror movie. = it was the first time i've gone a feature (i've done bits of =20 documentaries and recently some commercials). i took the approach of =20 watching the movie and improvising to certain key sections using the =20 repeaters, while recording the whole time<< well done, zoe. I will look out for the movie.... what's it called?=20 by coincidence, I am engaged in a horror movie project- now that my = band's new album is almost done, I will be setting about recording the = score to an indie brit-comedy/horror thing. slightly different deal, = though- they've given me some reference material & have voted on some = demo material I gave them, but apart from that all I have is a draft of = the script. no footage, no storyboard, no cues.... I keep saying to the = producer (I know him from our "real" jobs) that I can't tell if they're = going to play a scene straight or for laughs.... so I'm afraid I'll end = up doing a load of library music for them instead of the fine-tuned = sound-design job I'd rather do.=20 did/will they recut your movie now that they have the score? do you = anticipate them editing what you've done?=20 I'm curious about this whole interaction with directors- I spent a long = time working on a tv drama myself, so I'm happy to engage with the whole = process, but these guys don't seem to understand; I asked for pictures = of the locations, got blank looks.=20 well, my main instrument is the bass guitar, with keyboards a distant = second. they want orchestra. & maybe some theremin. I'm going to pretend = I misheard that last, & put some mellotron on instead. :-) I have a set = of "plucked grand piano" which sounds like a dulcimer. so my plan is to write the string & wind parts into a looping sequencer* = one at a time, using my peavey midi bass. I've tried a bit- violins, = cello & bass, & it seems to get me the expressiveness I'm after (pitch = bends, velocity & so on) but then I pulled up & put everything away- = first to get this album done, but also because I've had no direction = from the movie folks. ho, as they say, hum. (*genoqs octopus) duncan. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C76E1D.946E5B63 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: ps...the world's first looped cello horror film = score?

    >>i just finished...like yesterday, the score to = an indie horror movie. 
    it was the first time i've gone a feature (i've done bits of 
    documentaries and recently some commercials). i took the approach = of 
    watching the movie and improvising to certain key sections using = the 
    repeaters, while recording the whole time<<

    well done, zoe. I will look out for the movie.... what's it called?

    by coincidence, I am engaged in a horror movie project- now that my = band's new album is almost done, I will be setting about recording the = score to an indie brit-comedy/horror thing. slightly different deal, = though- they've given me some reference material & have voted on = some demo material I gave them, but apart from that all I have is a = draft of the script. no footage, no storyboard, no cues.... I keep = saying to the producer (I know him from our "real" jobs) that = I can't tell if they're going to play a scene straight or for laughs.... = so I'm afraid I'll end up doing a load of library music for them instead = of the fine-tuned sound-design job I'd rather do.

    did/will they recut your movie now that they have the score? do you = anticipate them editing what you've done?

    I'm curious about this whole interaction with directors- I spent a long = time working on a tv drama myself, so I'm happy to engage with the whole = process, but these guys don't seem to understand; I asked for pictures = of the locations, got blank looks.

    well, my main instrument is the bass guitar, with keyboards a distant = second. they want orchestra. & maybe some theremin. I'm going to = pretend I misheard that last, & put some mellotron on instead. :-) I = have a set of "plucked grand piano" which sounds like a = dulcimer.

    so my plan is to write the string & wind parts into a looping = sequencer* one at a time, using my peavey midi bass. I've tried a bit- = violins, cello & bass, & it seems to get me the expressiveness = I'm after (pitch bends, velocity & so on) but then I pulled up & = put everything away- first to get this album done, but also because I've = had no direction from the movie folks. ho, as they say, hum.

    (*genoqs octopus)

    duncan.

    ------_=_NextPart_001_01C76E1D.946E5B63-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 24 14:36:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4F9393BF04; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:36:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <92EA5B16-AD1D-4666-826A-2702B6B4E95B@gmail.com> References: <011f01c76dfb$76a14d90$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> <180E8864-ED5E-49C4-8119-43D2682DE611@gmail.com> <000601c76e0b$c962a7d0$b41a12ac@americas.hpqcorp.net> <92EA5B16-AD1D-4666-826A-2702B6B4E95B@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-1018773297 Message-Id: <0a2b133d1eb814c050e5dfd76328188f@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: How to reduce the DAILY DIGEST to one post a day Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 07:36:25 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:36:50 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-1018773297 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed That Per is one sharp cookie! richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 24-Mar-07, at 6:19 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > I too used Outlook before, when I was working mainly with Windows > machines, but I didn't use the preview pane because of the virus risk. > Today I work more with Macs and I have found the Apple Mail good > enough. For back-up and syncing on Windows Office I used to export a > huge file that could be imported to other machines but on the Mac I > simply chain the machines through firewire and move the content of the > Apple Mail folder to the same folder on the new machine. It's a one > minute operation. > > Whatever email, or BBS conference, application I'm using I like to set > it up as three main windows. On the left I have all the boxes and sub > boxes (inbox, outgoing, projects etc), in the center/right I have the > box's content of separate messages listed in the top window (author, > date and subject line)and the window below displaying the text of the > message selected in the top window. That way I can see three levels of > my correspondence in a just one glance. It saves a lot of time and > "brain cycles" ;-) --Apple-Mail-3-1018773297 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII That Per is one sharp cookie! Gadgetrichard sales 7373,7F7F,C5C5glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C3,9696,1C1C www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 24-Mar-07, at 6:19 AM, Per Boysen wrote: I too used Outlook before, when I was working mainly with Windows machines, but I didn't use the preview pane because of the virus risk. Today I work more with Macs and I have found the Apple Mail good enough. For back-up and syncing on Windows Office I used to export a huge file that could be imported to other machines but on the Mac I simply chain the machines through firewire and move the content of the Apple Mail folder to the same folder on the new machine. It's a one minute operation. Whatever email, or BBS conference, application I'm using I like to set it up as three main windows. On the left I have all the boxes and sub boxes (inbox, outgoing, projects etc), in the center/right I have the box's content of separate messages listed in the top window (author, date and subject line)and the window below displaying the text of the message selected in the top window. That way I can see three levels of my correspondence in a just one glance. It saves a lot of time and "brain cycles" ;-) --Apple-Mail-3-1018773297-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 24 17:38:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A250D3BF0C; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:38:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "PiNG" To: "Ambient@hyperreal" , "Dark Seeds" , "Drone Deep Chill" , "Loopers Delight" , "The Ambient Way" , Subject: PiNG iNTO SPRiNG WiTH 2 SPRiNG PiNG FLiNGS THiS WEEK! Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:37:54 -0500 Organization: THE AMBiENT PiNG Message-ID: <000101c76e43$89b197d0$a27ba8c0@dream> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:38:01 +0000 (UTC) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . SUNDAY . A PiNG SOUND-iN-SPACE SOiREE: THE ZEN GARDEN PARTY - Buddha Machine Gathering #1 @ the Allan Gardens Conservatory Greenhouses SUNDAY MARCH 25TH . 2PM - 4PM . FREE . TUESDAY . DOWNTEMPO/CHiLLOUT NiGHT=20 Featuring REPAIR + ANACHRONIC XP LiVE iN THE UNDERGROUND - downstairs @ the DRAKE HOTEL TUESDAY MARCH 27TH . 8PM - 10PM . PWYC (5$ suggested) =20 . NEXT MONTH . CHiLLED ELECTRO-ACOUSTiC NiGHT Featuring KINDER ATOM + SMASH 'n TEENY's BEE SPACE =20 with visuals by ADDITIV LiVE iN THE UNDERGROUND - downstairs @ the DRAKE HOTEL TUESDAY APRiL 24TH . 8PM - 11PM . PWYC (5$ suggested) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE ZEN GARDEN PARTY - BUDDHA MACHINE GATHERING #1 @ the Allan Gardens Conservatory Greenhouses (South side of Carlton between Jarvis & Sherbourne) http://www.toronto.ca/parks/parks_gardens/allangdns.htm THiS SUNDAY MARCH 25TH . 2PM - 4PM . FREE . Bring your Buddha Machines and help create a living, moving sound-in-space experience in the beautiful tropical gardens in the Allan Gardens Conservatory. Hang-out and chill-out with other peaceful spirits to enjoy a taste of Spring and a unique sonic landscape. Bring your friends too - it's fun and it's free. (Buddha Machines optional). We'll concentrate our soundfield by gathering first in the South-Western Greenhouse, so turn left (South) once you enter the main doors and go through the South Greenhouse with the fountain and then turn right (West) into the South-Western Greenhouse where there's a circular path to meander as well as places to sit, chill and absorb. Don't forget to feed your Buddha Machine some freshly-charged batteries to keep them droning. What's a Buddha Machine? http://www.fm3buddhamachine.com Where do you get them? Soundscapes - 572 College St., Toronto (Tell them THE AMBiENT PiNG sent you). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 03.27.07 . The PiNG Presents DOWNTEMPO/CHiLLOUT NiGHT=20 featuring REPAIR + ANACHRONIC XP=20 @ the UNDERGROUND downstairs @ the DRAKE HOTEL 1150 Queen St. W @ Beaconsfield . W of Ossington . E of Dufferin THiS TUESDAY MARCH 27TH . 8PM - 10PM . PWYC (5$ suggested) . What do you get when you cross a blushing singer with stage fright and a pair of methodical twins? A powerhouse of tension: part boy, part girl, and completely magnetic. A threesome known as Repair. The techno trio Repair returns to the PiNG for the third time and for the third year in a row. Join the musically uncompromising twin brothers, Matt and Mark Thibideau, as they lay down the beats behind the lush, sultry vocals of frontwoman Dawn Lewis. http://www.repair-lab.com http://www.myspace.com/repair . Fresh from their ALMOST LiVE performance on PiNG RADiO comes our new friends from Quebec, Anachronic XP. Tired and bored of traditional hip-hop, Quebec City based Anachronic XP began their experimentations in 1999 by evolving their music into a mix of electronic soundscapes with hip-hop beats and patterns. Anachronic XP is a fresh breath from the Quebec electronic scene as they perform all the beats & scapes live onstage with synths, samplers and control boards. Guitarist JFO joined the band last year, bringing his flavour of slide guitar, effects and synth to the mix. http://www.myspace.com/anachronicxp . Please note that the PiNG will be starting earlier and ending earlier=20 this week to make room for the DRAKE's special presentation of=20 Sweden's LO-FI-FNK at 11PM ($7). LO-FI-FNK is a hot new 2=20 piece electronic dance duo from Sweden, drawing comparisons=20 to Hot Chip and Pet Shop Boys. Expect a sweaty dance floor=20 and fun times. Doors open for LO-FI-FNK at 10 PM. Arrive early for the PiNG's presentation of REPAIR and=20 ANACHRONIC XP as the first set will start soon after=20 we open the doors at 8PM. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . COMiNG iN APRiL TO THE PiNG 04.24.07 . The PiNG Presents CHiLLED ELECTRO-ACOUSTiC NiGHT Featuring KINDER ATOM + SMASH 'n TEENY with visuals by ADDITIV @ the UNDERGROUND downstairs @ the DRAKE HOTEL 1150 Queen St. W @ Beaconsfield . W of Ossington . E of Dufferin TUESDAY APRiL 24th . 8PM - 11PM . PWYC (5$ suggested) . Kinder Atom, Toronto minimalist electro innovators, land for the=20 their first performance at the PiNG as we continue our chilled=20 out SPRiNG FLiNG @ the PiNG.=20 Kinder Atom are the people behind Toronto's nice + smooth ultramedia=20 collective of artists, musicians, dj's and designers fusing their = talents=20 into one hyper-creative and diverse production agency.=20 Check out Kinder Atom's 4th release of deep electro, jazzy house=20 and dubby chillout grooves which features a free DVD included=20 in the digipak with seven different music videos by various Toronto=20 directors. These visual interpretations of Kinder Atom=92s music=20 embrace nature inspired, layered abstract imagery and colours.=20 The warm organic flavours of Kinder Atom will tempt your senses=20 and soothe your soul as their deep electro, funky, dreamy and=20 gentle ambient sounds fill the PiNG @ the UNDERGROUND.=20 http://www.kinderatom.com . BEE SPACE . Smash and Teeny with visuals by Additiv Live electro-acoustic audio/visual improv derived from=20 bees and other insects. Smash and Teeny are Nilan Perera (altered electric guitar and=20 effects) and Sarah Peebles (laptop, mixing bowls, speaker drivers,=20 and sho mouth-organ). They have performed and recorded as a=20 duo since 2001 in Europe, Canada, the U.S. and Japan, and have=20 performed with John Butcher, Evan Parker, David Toop, Jin Hi Kim,=20 K=F4 Ishikawa, and Darren Copeland, among others. Their double-CD=20 "Gathering" (Spool), has received critical praise from the likes of=20 The Wire, Exclaim! and New York's Downtown Music Gallery. "The duo mix tidal undulations of tone with the ability to pick out sharp flecks of texture in complex aural environments."=20 The Wire Additiv (Rob King) is an artist, researcher and student in the Communication and Culture masters program at Ryerson.=20 His works have focused on the social interactions between=20 people in an online environment, emergent systems,=20 and digital play. http://www.sarahpeebles.net/smash.htm http://www.e-mu.org . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . CONTiNUiNG on AMBiENT PiNG RADiO: the ALMOST LiVE MUSiC SERiES A weekly show playing exclusive, unreleased material by some of the PiNG's closest friends in the ambient, darkwave, chill and electronic communities. Tune in to hear live performances, works in progress, exclusive remixes and more! March 26th . mara's torment April 2nd . Styrohead All shows are initially run on Mondays at 9PM EST and then rebroadcast the following Thursdays at 12midnight EST and again the following Saturdays at 3:30PM EST. The ALMOST LiVE MUSiC SERiES: Another way that http://www.ambientpingradio.com is bringing great new music to you! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . ping things MARCH MADNESS SALE . Time is running out to take advantage of the ping things March Madness Sale where you'll be able to save=20 even more on the music you love! Check out=20 http://www.pingthings.com to find out more! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . APRIL 17TH . 9:00PM . STYROHEAD with=20 JIM FIELD & ROB GREENWAY The Concord Cafe . 937 Bloor St. W. @ Ossington, steps from Ossington subway. . In between PiNG's on Tuesday, April 17th, fellow PiNGer,=20 Joe G (Stryrohead) will again be performing at his mini series=20 at The Concord Cafe this time with Jim Field (Spacenoiz &=20 Rhea's Obsession) and Rob Greenway (brilliantfish). . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . THE AMBiENT PiNG is a Toronto based creative community of audio artists, performers, musicians and visual artists. The PiNG presents live multimedia performances featuring ambient, electronic, soundscape, chillout, trip hop, dream pop, downtempo, space, darkwave, drone and experimental artists from around the world. http://www.theambientping.com Tune in anytime to AMBiENT PING RADiO at http://www.ambientpingradio.com ViSiT ping things for ambient, electronic and chill things: http://www.pingthings.com . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Please forward this e-mail to any interested friends or appropriate newsgroups. Thanks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 24 17:43:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 348CC3BF02; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:43:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <011f01c76dfb$76a14d90$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> References: <011f01c76dfb$76a14d90$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bernhard Wagner LD Subject: Re: How to reduce the DAILY DIGEST to one post a day Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 18:43:19 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:43:24 +0000 (UTC) On 24.03.2007, at 11:01, RICK WALKER wrote: > > I've been doing that for a couple of years now and I've tried to be > fairly > conscientious about it. Have you spotted anything in the last year > where > I failed to do that? Not at all. It's about the threading, see below... > > Also, am I correct in finding out that because I haven't used > 'REPLY' that > my posts are not included in the threads? If you were responding to individual emails, yes, not using REPLY (as you suggested in the previous post) would take your contribution out of the thread that you are responding to and technically start a new thread. But Andy is right, it again works differently when using the Daily Digest posts. When you use those, you have no choice but be thrown out of the thread, whether using REPLY or not. > I actually put a lot of energy into quoting only the salient > excerpts from > earlier thread posts so that I don't gum up the Daily Digest. Which is a good practice in any case. > > I just couldn't contend with the volume of mail if I were receiving > individual e-mails. You might still consider other solutions apart from the daily digest. They have been suggested by others: mail filters that automatically store mails in dedicated folders and keep your INBOX free for those cialis posts... ;) Bernhard From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 24 19:00:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFECF3BF04; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 19:00:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:51:45 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #521 for March 22, 2007 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <46058151.9080105@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 19:00:42 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/070322.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #521 March 22, 2007 RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Paul Lawler. The Featured CD at Midnight was "Resurrection" by Max van Richter on NeuHarmony Records. The Vinyl Starter was from the LP "Sonanze" by Roberto Cacciapaglia on Ohr Records and released in 1976 in SQ Quad. I played the music of Wolfram der Spyra who will play at The Gatherings this Saturday. Informations is available on the events page. Paul Lawler - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#mar events - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/events.html PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Roberto Cacciapaglia side 1, track 1 Sonanze (Ohr) Ololiuqui Djara Other Side of Odra (Ricochet Dream) Wolfram der Spyra Hush Hour (Excerpt1) Excerpts 1 (Ricochet Dream) Palancar Entheogenic Diminishing Light (Blue Water) Wolfra Spyra and Neununfunfzig 49 Achtundsechzig 24 (Manikin) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Max van Richter Resurrection Resurrection (NeuHarmony) Max van Richter The House of Visual Resurrection (NeuHarmony) Transference Max van Richter The Abduction Resurrection (NeuHarmony) Syndrome Max van Richter Prophecy Resurrection (NeuHarmony) Max van Richter Psychokinetic Hymn Resurrection (NeuHarmony) Max van Richter The City of Waking Resurrection (NeuHarmony) Hallucinations Max van Richter Last Exit * Resurrection (NeuHarmony) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll conclude the month-long focus on Paul Lawler. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "33 1/3 RPM" by Arcane on NeuHarmony Records. The Vinyl Starter will be from the LP "Mosaique" by Robert Schroder on Racket Records and released in 1981. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 24 19:25:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A660F3BF0B; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 19:25:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:16:30 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for March 24, 2007 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <4605871E.8090709@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 19:25:32 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2007/070324.html I host the Saturday AM/FM Show every other week where I play electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #105 March 22, 2006. During Phase I of this show, I continued the special on the sampler CDs that come with each issue of E-dition electronic music magazine. I also played the music of Wolfram der Spyra who will perform tonight at The Gatherings Concert Series. Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Paul Lawler] Hymn E-dition #13 (Groove) VA [Indra] To Jenna E-dition #13 (Groove) Der Spyra Hush Hour-Excerpt 1 Excerpts 1 (Ricochet Dream) Wolfram Spyra and Acht 39 Achtundsechzig 24 (Manikin) Chris Lang ['ramp] and Markus Seelenmord Ceasing To Exist (doombient) Reuter ['ramp] and Markus Jeanne d'Arc Ceasing To Exist (doombient) Reuter Gert Emmens The Dream That Came The Tales of the Warlock True (Groove) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== James Todd Quiet Beauty Quiet Beauty (Scottish Fox) Walt Ribeiro Miasma I.I (none) Dave Sterling The Offering Along the Curve (none) Aurah I Love You for That Etherea Borealis (Very Music) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Oresund Space The Tony Blair Witch It's All About Delay Collective Crocket Project (Transubstans) Steve Thorne Sandheads Part Two: Emotional Creatures (Giant Electric Pea) IZZ I Move I Move (Doone) IZZ Weak Little Lad I Move (Doone) IZZ I Already Know I Move (Doone) IZZ I Wanna Win I Move (Doone) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) I return to the AM/FM Show on April 14. On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDs that come with each issue of E-dition electronic music magazine. Bill ====================================================================== Host of the AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST (GMT-5:00). Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from "Beyond the Barriers." Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Web Site - http://soundscapes.us/amfm Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml ====================================================================== The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to post playlists or track airplay? The progdj list solves that problem. The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. There is NO SPAM because I keep the spammers out before the members ever see any hint of it. The progdj list is for DJs (obviously!) and band members, record label personnel, promoters, managers, and anyone else interested in seeing what gets played on the air. Need to find who is playing prog on the radio? Go to the progdj list. To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 24 22:40:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D1D893BF10; Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:40:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=qvzA+WGGjHiYzvVZjqMxRHFFIJjoKW+hxUVVlvev0A01mkjlqjYa7BaJsuaYUO20MWvv9gINJX2SCnROm4RuJ69pasFwsJIEm54HsbFuEK7OZ+V1em7+QkfXwATeBZu7xXHi1ZjsaISlONRpDhdIBFZ5S7YBamiyvh6AtXvXGbI=; X-YMail-OSG: lHtPfIUVM1mxJlVMuNJYamRSrnZkJIuyZmuItvI4WIhjx3L9BVY.fajwAyG48ZS.NVJ.xMKW6iAgbvY53AfAyd3E.zyw782R3DZcq5AhSWk.nlPCs6iM9Lu2voUXorxrmZEHTy_fflGCsR0CYqqn0bEVIA-- Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 15:40:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: New Repeater in 12-24 months ! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <745726.7868.qm@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-107141964-1174776042=:49837" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <523114.49837.qm@web35115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 22:40:45 +0000 (UTC) --0-107141964-1174776042=:49837 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This guy's more bitter than me! mark sottilaro wrote: Yeah, and if anyone wants to paypal me money I'll take deposits for it because I'm sure it's right around the corner. I can practically taste it!Make sure you sell your current looper too. Send me the proceeds of that as well and I'll include special m@l3 1nh@nc3m3nt p1lz. Be welsh be salaried! Mark --- "Weideman, Gary" wrote: > Laguna Hills, California (March 19, 2007) - Newly > formed SBD Music, > Inc., based in Laguna Hills, Calif., has acquired > Electrix Pro, Inc., a > leader in manufacturing professional audio > equipment. > > SBD Music, Inc. also announces they have appointed a > board of directors > consisting of Mark Buhler, Charles Dotson and Adam > Scolaro. > > > > "We saw a tremendous opportunity to acquire a very > well respected brand > name in Electrix. We are planning to re-introduce > new versions of the > Electrix products over the next twelve to twenty > four months", says Adam > Scolaro, president of SBD Music, Inc. > > > > "We are going to continue manufacturing high quality > products that > Electrix is known for, and try to build and expand > the product line", > added Mark Buhler. > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather --------------------------------- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. --0-107141964-1174776042=:49837 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This guy's more bitter than me!

    mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
    Yeah, and if anyone wants to paypal me money I'll take
    deposits for it because I'm sure it's right around the
    corner. I can practically taste it!Make sure you sell
    your current looper too. Send me the proceeds of that
    as well and I'll include special m@l3 1nh@nc3m3nt
    p1lz. Be welsh be salaried!

    Mark

    --- "Weideman, Gary"
    wrote:

    > Laguna Hills, California (March 19, 2007) - Newly
    > formed SBD Music,
    > Inc., based in Laguna Hills, Calif., has acquired
    > Electrix Pro, Inc., a
    > leader in manufacturing professional audio
    > equipment.
    >
    > SBD Music, Inc. also announces they have appointed a
    > board of directors
    > consisting of Mark Buhler, Charles Dotson and Adam
    > Scolaro.
    >
    >
    >
    > "We saw a tremendous opportunity to acquire a very
    > well respected brand
    > name in Electrix. We are planning to re-introduce
    > new versions of the
    > Electrix products over the next twelve to twenty
    > four months", says Adam
    > Scolaro, president of SBD Music, Inc.
    >
    >
    >
    > "We are going to continue manufacturing high quality
    > products that
    > Electrix is known for, and try to build and expand
    > the product line",
    > added Mark Buhler.
    >
    >
    >
    >




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    with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. --0-107141964-1174776042=:49837-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 25 01:58:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EFB813BF0D; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 01:58:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Cloudmark-Score: 0.000000 [] Message-ID: <001201c76e81$0c944a70$4001a8c0@mini> From: "CV" To: References: <523114.49837.qm@web35115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: New Repeater in 12-24 months ! Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 03:58:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 01:58:15 +0000 (UTC) Mark was _the_ rptr evangelist on LD long time ago and therefore he has the right/obligation/anger to be bitter about the sad Electrix story. Check the archives for some glorious arguments rptr vs EDP Those where the good times !!! :=) Claude This guy's more bitter than me! mark sottilaro wrote: Yeah, and if anyone wants to paypal me money I'll take deposits for it because I'm sure it's right around the corner. I can practically taste it!Make sure you sell your current looper too. Send me the proceeds of that as well and I'll include special m@l3 1nh@nc3m3nt p1lz. Be welsh be salaried! Mark --- "Weideman, Gary" wrote: > Laguna Hills, California (March 19, 2007) - Newly > formed SBD Music, > Inc., based in Laguna Hills, Calif., has acquired > Electrix Pro, Inc., a > leader in manufacturing professional audio > equipment. > > SBD Music, Inc. also announces they have appointed a > board of directors > consisting of Mark Buhler, Charles Dotson and Adam > Scolaro. > > > > "We saw a tremendous opportunity to acquire a very > well respected brand > name in Electrix. We are planning to re-introduce > new versions of the > Electrix products over the next twelve to twenty > four months", says Adam > Scolaro, president of SBD Music, Inc. > > > > "We are going to continue manufacturing high quality > products that > Electrix is known for, and try to build and expand > the product line", > added Mark Buhler. > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather --------------------------------- Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 25 16:15:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 506603BF02; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 16:15:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <25052dd2b3fcf065f80fe5161b6f6488@mac.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: mando loopage Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 10:15:27 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Resent-Message-ID: <68qsfB.A.yLG.mAqBGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 16:15:35 +0000 (UTC) Fun and games with a couple new instruments I've been messing with for a couple months - some newly recorded mandocello/ octave mandolin/ loop improvs. (warts and all): 1) Mando Dance - octave mandolin improv. over looped dance like rythymn. << http://web.mac.com/pmimlitsch/iWeb/Site/Music_files/ 01%20Mando%20Dance.mp3 >> 2) MC Improv. - mandocello improv. - reaction to .560 sec. delay. << http://web.mac.com/pmimlitsch/iWeb/Site/Music_files/ 02%20MC%20Improv..mp3 >> 3) Mellow Mando - octave mandolin improv. over mellow three chord vamp. << http://web.mac.com/pmimlitsch/iWeb/Site/Music_files/ 03%20Mellow%20Mando.mp3 >> 4) MC East - mandocello improv. over looped interpretation of a tamburo pattern. << http://web.mac.com/pmimlitsch/iWeb/Site/Music_files/04%20MC%20East.mp3 >> FWIW Technical Matters: Instrument > Amp: Send > volume pedal > Bad Monkey > Giga Delay > Loop Station > Return Mandocello tuned in 4ths. starting on B below guitar low E. Double unison strings. Octave Mandolin tuned in 5ths. starting on guitar low G. Double unison strings Both instruments fitted with floating archtop guitar style magnetic pickups mounted to custom made (by me) pickguards. recorded on a "iKey" off the headphone output of the amp (Traynor) - Paul << http://web.mac.com/pmimlitsch/ >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 25 19:27:28 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CF01B3BF0A; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 19:27:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=GO7tcSF7ktQYwugQy30l+hUbYi3QcppDJkwEKVfxFCJFayIodfixCwAvgpgPmrOq5qR08vySVqY4NF4kRODbSIHKEYyUBDyDvGF+nXGExzQnXIizrwzhsL8AEh/bDXJ1bKryFYu1UYiAtSXIYQbh1zMQb9Tdax4bzL/wG/27HdM=; X-YMail-OSG: GvnWjx4VM1muvnwM1HYQS6G62CvkJXkerOkLTg.xfgEtfein50E7NMMCCtuAonksys8JMNQfJ7uboC02hOFsRZ7Mk2.W3ND0zrHUYkWjnNmTk.1BwkfhajUPZz2ZnYM.g9tr3hYK6WiVnDE- Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 12:27:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: New Repeater in 12-24 months ! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <001201c76e81$0c944a70$4001a8c0@mini> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1734912971-1174850846=:52587" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <224093.52587.qm@web35112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <_C-6QD.A.LpB.g0sBGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 19:27:28 +0000 (UTC) --0-1734912971-1174850846=:52587 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I remember them well. However, if Electrix EVENTUALLY comes out with an improved model of the Repeater, I say, that's good news. I liked my Repeater when I had one although I still think (for my needs then) the EDP was superior. Paul CV wrote: Mark was _the_ rptr evangelist on LD long time ago and therefore he has the right/obligation/anger to be bitter about the sad Electrix story. Check the archives for some glorious arguments rptr vs EDP Those where the good times !!! :=) Claude This guy's more bitter than me! mark sottilaro wrote: Yeah, and if anyone wants to paypal me money I'll take deposits for it because I'm sure it's right around the corner. I can practically taste it!Make sure you sell your current looper too. Send me the proceeds of that as well and I'll include special m@l3 1nh@nc3m3nt p1lz. Be welsh be salaried! Mark --- "Weideman, Gary" wrote: > Laguna Hills, California (March 19, 2007) - Newly > formed SBD Music, > Inc., based in Laguna Hills, Calif., has acquired > Electrix Pro, Inc., a > leader in manufacturing professional audio > equipment. > > SBD Music, Inc. also announces they have appointed a > board of directors > consisting of Mark Buhler, Charles Dotson and Adam > Scolaro. > > > > "We saw a tremendous opportunity to acquire a very > well respected brand > name in Electrix. We are planning to re-introduce > new versions of the > Electrix products over the next twelve to twenty > four months", says Adam > Scolaro, president of SBD Music, Inc. > > > > "We are going to continue manufacturing high quality > products that > Electrix is known for, and try to build and expand > the product line", > added Mark Buhler. > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Yahoo! 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    I remember them well.
     
     
    However, if Electrix EVENTUALLY comes out with an improved model of the Repeater, I say, that's good news. I liked my Repeater when I had one although I still think (for my needs then) the EDP was superior.
     
    Paul

    CV <c.voit@vtx.ch> wrote:

    Mark was _the_ rptr evangelist on LD long time ago and therefore he has the
    right/obligation/anger to be bitter about the sad Electrix story.
    Check the archives for some glorious arguments rptr vs EDP
    Those where the good times !!!
    :=)

    Claude





    This guy's more bitter than me!

    mark sottilaro wrote: Yeah, and if anyone
    wants to paypal me money I'll take
    deposits for it because I'm sure it's right around the
    corner. I can practically taste it!Make sure you sell
    your current looper too. Send me the proceeds of that
    as well and I'll include special m@l3 1nh@nc3m3nt
    p1lz. Be welsh be salaried!

    Mark

    --- "Weideman, Gary"
    wrote:

    > Laguna Hills, California (March 19, 2007) - Newly
    > formed SBD Music,
    > Inc., based in Laguna Hills, Calif., has acquired
    > Electrix Pro, Inc., a
    > leader in manufacturing professional audio
    > equipment.
    >
    > SBD Music, Inc. also announces they have appointed a
    > board of directors
    > consisting of Mark Buhler, Charles Dotson and Adam
    > Scolaro.
    >
    >
    >
    > "We saw a tremendous opportunity to acquire a very
    > well respected brand
    > name in Electrix. We are planning to re-introduce
    > new versions of the
    > Electrix products over the next twelve to twenty
    > four months", says Adam
    > Scolaro, president of SBD Music, Inc.
    >
    >
    >
    > "We are going to continue manufacturing high quality
    > products that
    > Electrix is known for, and try to build and expand
    > the product line",
    > added Mark Buhler.
    >
    >
    >
    >




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    No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go
    with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. --0-1734912971-1174850846=:52587-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 25 20:17:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 57F043BF07; Sun, 25 Mar 2007 20:17:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <4606F541.70200@imt.net> Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 14:18:41 -0800 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Repeater in 12-24 months ! References: <523114.49837.qm@web35115.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <001201c76e81$0c944a70$4001a8c0@mini> In-Reply-To: <001201c76e81$0c944a70$4001a8c0@mini> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 20:17:43 +0000 (UTC) Great! Anybody have clues as to what kind of features they are looking at introducing so I don't bother duplicating efforts if that's the case? Works good for them..and me if I dont' introduce a competative product and have to under price them to come out of it alive :-) -Bob CV wrote: > > Mark was _the_ rptr evangelist on LD long time ago and therefore he > has the right/obligation/anger to be bitter about the sad Electrix story. > Check the archives for some glorious arguments rptr vs EDP > Those where the good times !!! > :=) > > Claude > > > > > > This guy's more bitter than me! > > mark sottilaro wrote: Yeah, and if > anyone wants to paypal me money I'll take > deposits for it because I'm sure it's right around the > corner. I can practically taste it!Make sure you sell > your current looper too. Send me the proceeds of that > as well and I'll include special m@l3 1nh@nc3m3nt > p1lz. Be welsh be salaried! > > Mark > > --- "Weideman, Gary" > wrote: > >> Laguna Hills, California (March 19, 2007) - Newly >> formed SBD Music, >> Inc., based in Laguna Hills, Calif., has acquired >> Electrix Pro, Inc., a >> leader in manufacturing professional audio >> equipment. >> >> SBD Music, Inc. also announces they have appointed a >> board of directors >> consisting of Mark Buhler, Charles Dotson and Adam >> Scolaro. >> >> >> >> "We saw a tremendous opportunity to acquire a very >> well respected brand >> name in Electrix. We are planning to re-introduce >> new versions of the >> Electrix products over the next twelve to twenty >> four months", says Adam >> Scolaro, president of SBD Music, Inc. >> >> >> >> "We are going to continue manufacturing high quality >> products that >> Electrix is known for, and try to build and expand >> the product line", >> added Mark Buhler. >> >> >> >> > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast > with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather > > > > > --------------------------------- > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast > with theYahoo! Search weather shortcut. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 26 09:50:24 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77CAB3BF07; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:50:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4C2C40BF-53E4-468D-8CDB-C6AB27CC787A@ricoloop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Manu Subject: loopfestival Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:50:21 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:50:24 +0000 (UTC) good morning to everybody! my name is manuel and i=B4m writing to you from berlin capital! ;) i am working together with a loop-musician here in berlin called =20 "ricoloop" and we are interested in organising a loopfestival in the =20 last part of the year. for this reason, i am collecting any information about every =20 loopfestival or contest which exists. i am interested in your =20 experience with loopermeetings, loopfestivals or contests to find =20 out, if there is any interest of joining an event like this!? do you allready participate at any contest/festival, which was about =20 looping? tell me.... would you be interested in doing so? what would be important for you, at a festival or contest of loopers?? other things to say?.... i=B4m happy about any answer and information you can give me! greetings from a sunny place, manuel From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 26 10:41:49 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F1A843BF0F; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:41:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=KAdMg0b/iO4qxM4V6HUT/98LKJuJhtJIHA1/qlqyY2pzJeYd5JQgKkeff04H7XVVQNeTM+rGqem6sRn4qV8pmVAeBLk4ltw0QMsusu1JlMbMyvDBiVG6Z2MzbIDESuyUQGr4xGmqAGxfe5CG9WleL3tZRWXVQf39+TBEk0/Z5Ec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=FEMY5zGugUla3iv1QRNORoXE/IZsTf/vnASr1ucXixAQLvjHyWCgZCbc+E4RrY0VO4fbF/rqkLxafg5bnvrbVze8VQWE6/vxbDnnV7kxmi343sb4uXdTcJB/P9aAxJkn2fHhWQ2NEwXg3QJXCDt+ApyG/Xx5m8+KZJ/TX2PYJqQ= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <4C2C40BF-53E4-468D-8CDB-C6AB27CC787A@ricoloop.com> References: <4C2C40BF-53E4-468D-8CDB-C6AB27CC787A@ricoloop.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: loopfestival Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:41:43 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 10:41:48 +0000 (UTC) On 26 mar 2007, at 11.50, Manu wrote: > good morning to everybody! > > my name is manuel and i=B4m writing to you from berlin capital! ;) > > i am working together with a loop-musician here in berlin called =20 > "ricoloop" and we are interested in organising a loopfestival in =20 > the last part of the year. > for this reason, i am collecting any information about every =20 > loopfestival or contest which exists. i am interested in your =20 > experience with loopermeetings, loopfestivals or contests to find =20 > out, if there is any interest of joining an event like this!? > > do you allready participate at any contest/festival, which was =20 > about looping? tell me.... > would you be interested in doing so? > what would be important for you, at a festival or contest of loopers?? > other things to say?.... > > i=B4m happy about any answer and information you can give me! > > greetings from a sunny place, > manuel Hi Manu, Nice to hear that Berlin is "a sunny place" right now. The winter has =20= finally passed even here in Sweden and we're slowly starting to crawl =20= out from under those icy rocks where we hide during the dark part of =20 the year. On this festival documentation page, by Bernhard Wagner, there are =20 lots of links to other festival documentations at the bottom of the =20 page: http://loopfestival.com/ Sufing around those links should =20 give you a good general overview. When I arranged a looping festival here in Sweden in 2003 I decided =20 to make it more like a tour based around a small group of traveling =20 musicians. Starting one year in advance I sold the package to paying =20 venues and invited the venues to place local musicians to join us on =20 stage or do their own sets. This worked well for Sweden, but maybe =20 one big festival at one fixed date is a concept better suited for =20 Berlin, since Berlin is such a big city and also geographically =20 located in a much more crowded part of Europe. Personally I think it's a great idea to put on a festival but a bad =20 idea to make it a contest. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 26 11:35:51 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 74E4C3BF0A; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:35:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=UNo0MV1P+nnI9dZtTlETBFvZA9BtvH9o+ORlmlcM8KImH8/LdsmMDx7+OtaemNrqINNadBTIkKekBJFruBvdKzXXN43u8PeMfcWmsqbJMfp1qy6Egdj/JSG1aUJs08cxbQ6K//JE8PbmGqT6jGufdf5dIBmdUQORUjxMnzqen+k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=pcyvMXl9D+Nl04LYk4lS4IvXBvIHWb0yaGbmk1iTkR96yGwOu5Tm2yBVyxYfeRqjpAQVSEri4CBEE/NmlrRvM3YrAAl2g/Z+vVfD2GX1RzKvMBcf+GkwJLOFZJDJYTxPalq4nZxWcpp6F5qIpY5cD8lduSZi/1r+j73MMeF/gxU= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:35:49 +0100 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loopfestival In-Reply-To: <4C2C40BF-53E4-468D-8CDB-C6AB27CC787A@ricoloop.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <4C2C40BF-53E4-468D-8CDB-C6AB27CC787A@ricoloop.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: ee0c69d7cff348e3 Resent-Message-ID: <-AdSu.A.qzC.XA7BGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 11:35:51 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I put this on for a few years: http://www.collective.co.uk/loopfest/ It was fun, but very hard work getting anyone to turn up. I think the main problems stemmed from it not being in a proper venue - so there was no "house audience", no PA etc. If you can get proper funding or some other way of getting a recognised music venue, I would recommend doing that. cheers, os. On 26/03/07, Manu wrote: > good morning to everybody! > > my name is manuel and i=B4m writing to you from berlin capital! ;) > > i am working together with a loop-musician here in berlin called > "ricoloop" and we are interested in organising a loopfestival in the > last part of the year. > for this reason, i am collecting any information about every > loopfestival or contest which exists. i am interested in your > experience with loopermeetings, loopfestivals or contests to find > out, if there is any interest of joining an event like this!? > > do you allready participate at any contest/festival, which was about > looping? tell me.... > > would you be interested in doing so? > > what would be important for you, at a festival or contest of loopers?? > > other things to say?.... > > > > i=B4m happy about any answer and information you can give me! > > greetings from a sunny place, > manuel > > > --=20 os@collective.co.uk http://www.collective.co.uk/ http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 26 15:45:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 98F763BED8; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <25C150EE-C95A-4BB1-8594-9EB62AACA830@bernhardwagner.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Bernhard Wagner LD Subject: Wii Loop Machine utilizes Wiimote to manipulate beats Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:45:40 +0200 To: Loopers X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Wii Loop Machine utilizes Wiimote to manipulate beats http://tinyurl.com/2z6pa7 Bernhard From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 26 15:54:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4A523BEDB; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:54:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: controlling loops with a remote (was: Wii Loop Machine utilizes Wiimote to manipulate beats) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 17:54:31 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000601c76fbf$0b1969c0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <25C150EE-C95A-4BB1-8594-9EB62AACA830@bernhardwagner.net> Thread-Index: AcdvvdI8L5sHu07zTqu7+tx7DdextwAAK05Q X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OINMZMSjb1o= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: <4PmfyD.A.YeC.qy-BGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 15:54:18 +0000 (UTC) funny thing...just today when I stepped into my condo returning from work, I thought "hey, controlling your powerpoint presentations or your media player with a mobile phone is cool - now would it be possible to use the same technology to control music stuff?" Perhaps some application (for XP of course ;) which would react to bluetooth messages and translate them into MIDI, which could then control your application via MIDI yoke or something... ...and then you'd need a java application for your phone. Any coders out there who want to go for that? Rainer > > Wii Loop Machine utilizes Wiimote to manipulate beats > > http://tinyurl.com/2z6pa7 loop-machine-utilizes-wiimote-to-manipulate-beats/> > > Bernhard > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 26 16:52:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62D9A3BEE8; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:52:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <54288.65.160.58.240.1174927958.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 09:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: FS: Korg Dw8000, Ensoniq SQ1plus, EPS sampler From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: analogue@hyperreal.org, digitalhell@hyperreal.org, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 16:52:46 +0000 (UTC) I'm thinning out my closet of 61 note keyboards. Here's the facts: 1. Korg DW8000 - analog filters,etc +digital waveforms = one juicy 80s hybrid classic. Built in arpeggiator, old school digital delay, and interesting joystick. Velocity sensitve (midi value 1-100). Awesome strings, organs, and even bouncy basses and such. Used a lot by the old goth and prog crowd for pompous chords, the noise and other featured have served me well for weirder stuff. Asking $150 2. Ensoniq SQ1 plus. Transwave digital synth. The plus verion has 32 voice polyphony and a damn good grand piano. Same engine as the KS32 and those awesome Ensoniq effects (reverbs, phase/flange/etc). In very good condion with memory battery not only fresh but I installed a battery holder (a very practical and needed upgrade)so you are good to go for the life of the board. I have some amazing sounds which I'll include in *.syx format from some pro audio place. PPG waveforms, odd percussion, ambient synth drones and other drum kits, etc. Also has a decent internal sequencer making it a great scratch pad for a home studio and good feeling keyboard with polyphonic aftertouch. Original manual included. Asking $175.00 3. EPS sampler. THE classic. Good condition, one button (envelope #3) not working. In my 20+ years of playing this and the ASR I have never needed that button for any sounds or programming and neither will you. Great internal sequencer. DD disk drive works fine. Comes with boot disk and CDrom with 100s of sounds in giebler *.ede format so with any PC and a disk drive you can have a full library of a couple hundred sounds instantly. CDrom include ASR and classic Mirage sounds (the EPS will read mirage disks). Also has max memory of 4085 blocks and this memory upgrade is quite rare and costs $129 alone from Syntaur.com. Asking $125. The first person to buy one of the ensoniqs gets a free Ensoniq sustain/switch pedal. The first person to PICK UP oner of these gets a free padded 61 note keyboard gig bag. I believe I have copies the manuals for the DW8000 and EPS if needed but I'll have to check. I believe all these prices are fair but if you feel differently and are nice about I'll listen to offers. All items are in Phila pa and pickup is GREATLY preferred, otherwise buyer pays shipping and depending on who else responds before you, packing (I have one good box lol). Paypal fine if you pay the fees. Pics available on request. References out the wazoo. I am very familiar with all these boards so feel free to ask any questions. Send a phone # to speed things up if you're interested, first pay, first sold. Thanks! ------------------------------------------------ Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 26 18:33:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1FD93BEFA; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:33:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <46082E63.6010903@imt.net> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 12:34:43 -0800 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FS: Korg Dw8000, Ensoniq SQ1plus, EPS sampler References: <54288.65.160.58.240.1174927958.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> In-Reply-To: <54288.65.160.58.240.1174927958.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:33:38 +0000 (UTC) I'll take the SQ1 if it's still around. -Bob legion@helpwantedproductions.com wrote: >I'm thinning out my closet of 61 note keyboards. > >Here's the facts: > >1. Korg DW8000 - analog filters,etc +digital waveforms = one juicy 80s >hybrid classic. Built in arpeggiator, old school digital delay, and >interesting joystick. Velocity sensitve (midi value 1-100). Awesome >strings, organs, and even bouncy basses and such. Used a lot by the old >goth and prog crowd for pompous chords, the noise and other featured have >served me well for weirder stuff. > >Asking $150 > >2. Ensoniq SQ1 plus. Transwave digital synth. The plus verion has 32 voice >polyphony and a damn good grand piano. Same engine as the KS32 and those >awesome Ensoniq effects (reverbs, phase/flange/etc). In very good condion >with memory battery not only fresh but I installed a battery holder (a >very practical and needed upgrade)so you are good to go for the life of >the board. I have some amazing sounds which I'll include in *.syx format >from some pro audio place. PPG waveforms, odd percussion, ambient synth >drones and other drum kits, etc. Also has a decent internal sequencer >making it a great scratch pad for a home studio and good feeling keyboard >with polyphonic aftertouch. Original manual included. > >Asking $175.00 > >3. EPS sampler. THE classic. Good condition, one button (envelope #3) not >working. In my 20+ years of playing this and the ASR I have never needed >that button for any sounds or programming and neither will you. Great >internal sequencer. DD disk drive works fine. Comes with boot disk and >CDrom with 100s of sounds in giebler *.ede format so with any PC and a >disk drive you can have a full library of a couple hundred sounds >instantly. CDrom include ASR and classic Mirage sounds (the EPS will read >mirage disks). >Also has max memory of 4085 blocks and this memory upgrade is quite rare >and costs $129 alone from Syntaur.com. > >Asking $125. > > >The first person to buy one of the ensoniqs gets a free Ensoniq >sustain/switch pedal. The first person to PICK UP oner of these gets a >free padded 61 note keyboard gig bag. I believe I have copies the manuals >for the DW8000 and EPS if needed but I'll have to check. > >I believe all these prices are fair but if you feel differently and are >nice about I'll listen to offers. All items are in Phila pa and pickup is >GREATLY preferred, otherwise buyer pays shipping and depending on who else >responds before you, packing (I have one good box lol). Paypal fine if you >pay the fees. Pics available on request. > >References out the wazoo. I am very familiar with all these boards so feel >free to ask any questions. Send a phone # to speed things up if you're >interested, first pay, first sold. > >Thanks! > > ------------------------------------------------ > Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: > Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 26 21:50:07 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 030B13BEDC; Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:50:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=zIAKvSWVK6GK1sC406uz/AeIw77isc2KlnKO1mN94QlkfmRBoFk/EtnFiEa5c1IK36c6u3zlaP+wx5t6mninblFkdAA9Phk05oIXBcyAZedB0xeDsgLoNrTwTkaJhQW3vNsSdE1W4Le/Or7iZ9wbArRzjfA1xbDFQaXhv39hwFo=; X-YMail-OSG: DiMvYkEVM1km2FxvsB_Fp0wZnHGEuoXcqMEoPDj6ufaBkN1Rx1JsZiTmPucRafxx1XOwepde6EBe7U573dB_jARyhirHOmTYhGa7KHnYVStGALahPPnf7A-- Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 14:50:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: loopfestival To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <759835.72399.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 21:50:06 +0000 (UTC) I organized a couple of playing dates with Rick Walker in 2003 and we played here in in germany and switzerland. My personal experience was that organizing this type of music in the summer where everybody want to sit outside,chillout drinking beer and listening to summer music wasn´t quite appropiate,although it was great fun anyway.But both gigs werent very well attended and it does involve a lot of work so you might consider this. I would encourage you to do it anyway even if there is one person in the audience is definetly worth the experience! also please keep me informed i would be interested in participating and jamming with other loopers,i am in the southern Bodensee region of Deutschland. Ich würde mich freuen von dir zu hören! Gruss Luis --- Per Boysen wrote: > On 26 mar 2007, at 11.50, Manu wrote: > > > good morning to everybody! > > > > my name is manuel and i´m writing to you from > berlin capital! ;) > > > > i am working together with a loop-musician here in > berlin called > > "ricoloop" and we are interested in organising a > loopfestival in > > the last part of the year. > > for this reason, i am collecting any information > about every > > loopfestival or contest which exists. i am > interested in your > > experience with loopermeetings, loopfestivals or > contests to find > > out, if there is any interest of joining an event > like this!? > > > > do you allready participate at any > contest/festival, which was > > about looping? tell me.... > > would you be interested in doing so? > > what would be important for you, at a festival or > contest of loopers?? > > other things to say?.... > > > > i´m happy about any answer and information you can > give me! > > > > greetings from a sunny place, > > manuel > > > Hi Manu, > > Nice to hear that Berlin is "a sunny place" right > now. The winter has > finally passed even here in Sweden and we're slowly > starting to crawl > out from under those icy rocks where we hide during > the dark part of > the year. > > On this festival documentation page, by Bernhard > Wagner, there are > lots of links to other festival documentations at > the bottom of the > page: http://loopfestival.com/ Sufing around those > links should > give you a good general overview. > > When I arranged a looping festival here in Sweden in > 2003 I decided > to make it more like a tour based around a small > group of traveling > musicians. Starting one year in advance I sold the > package to paying > venues and invited the venues to place local > musicians to join us on > stage or do their own sets. This worked well for > Sweden, but maybe > one big festival at one fixed date is a concept > better suited for > Berlin, since Berlin is such a big city and also > geographically > located in a much more crowded part of Europe. > > Personally I think it's a great idea to put on a > festival but a bad > idea to make it a contest. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music > releases) > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 27 01:28:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1C59A3BED8; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [83.100.208.210] X-Originating-Email: [blackface@hotmail.co.uk] X-Sender: blackface@hotmail.co.uk From: "phill wilson" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: EDP noise help (unsoldering) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:28:04 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Mar 2007 01:28:07.0508 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C667140:01C7700F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Hi all right, ive gone and been a silly chimp, I bought a second edp l( blackfaced echoplex)last month, but have been so so busy ive only just got to the pluggin in stage and.............. aaaarh noise!!! hummming noisey noise.... the humming actually starts as soon as the mains cord is plugged in and is raised to crazy levels as soon as i power on. the screen displays correctly and all seems in order under the hood,and ive tried all the normal fixes. ive got another white face echoplex and have had a noise problem before, and last time i reseated the rams, roms and the lil square chips and that solved it.........went to do that this time and HORROR!!!!!! someones gone and put metal covers over the square chips......so questions 1.Any idead on the noise cause? 2. If its what i think it is how do i get those damn covers off? 3. Why cover the chips? thanks for any and all input on this, i knowwe go round in circles on this subject and i thought i was ok solving my own probs, bt this has me really bummed out , ve not een used it yet Phill Wilson _________________________________________________________________ Txt a lot? Get Messenger FREE on your mobile. https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 27 01:37:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 016803BEDE; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:37:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000401c77010$62e37550$4101a8c0@MICHAELPLISHKA> From: "Michael Plishka" To: References: Subject: other noise Re: EDP noise help (unsoldering) Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:36:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:37:00 +0000 (UTC) Never having an EDP until a couple months ago, how quiet is an EDP when it's working properly? Is there any hiss, or other noise? Thanks! Plish ----- Original Message ----- From: "phill wilson" To: Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 8:28 PM Subject: EDP noise help (unsoldering) > Hi all > > right, ive gone and been a silly chimp, > I bought a second edp l( blackfaced echoplex)last month, but have been so > so busy ive only just got to the pluggin in stage and.............. aaaarh > noise!!! > hummming noisey noise.... > the humming actually starts as soon as the mains cord is plugged in and is > raised to crazy levels as soon as i power on. > the screen displays correctly and all seems in order under the hood,and > ive tried all the normal fixes. ive got another white face echoplex and > have had a noise problem before, and last time i reseated the rams, roms > and the lil square chips and that solved it.........went to do that this > time and HORROR!!!!!! someones gone and put metal covers over the square > chips......so questions > 1.Any idead on the noise cause? > 2. If its what i think it is how do i get those damn covers off? > 3. Why cover the chips? > > thanks for any and all input on this, i knowwe go round in circles on this > subject and i thought i was ok solving my own probs, bt this has me really > bummed out , ve not een used it yet > > Phill Wilson > > _________________________________________________________________ > Txt a lot? Get Messenger FREE on your mobile. > https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/ > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 27 04:15:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ECF793BEE1; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 04:15:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003b01c77026$958e5630$6401a8c0@homeanj> From: "arcmotion" To: References: <444811.64669.qm@web34310.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <56432.167.83.10.20.1172595103.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> <00d501c761eb$976843b0$6401a8c0@homeanj> Subject: rc50 decay..no mixer required. Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:15:41 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0038_01C77069.A3523820" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 04:15:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C77069.A3523820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you dont need a mixer if you are ok with working in mono....just take = the subout and feed it back into the other stereo input with a short = lead in replace mode. The level knobs control feedback and tempo is your = time....as per the guy who used a mixer before.=20 also messing with another phrase at the same time freezes the feedback = on the original....which could get interesting. ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C77069.A3523820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    you dont need a mixer if you are ok = with working in=20 mono....just take the subout and feed it back into the other stereo = input with a=20 short lead in replace mode. The level knobs control feedback and tempo = is your=20 time....as per the guy who used a mixer before. 
     
    also messing with another phrase at the = same time=20 freezes the feedback on the original....which could get=20 interesting.
    ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01C77069.A3523820-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 27 05:56:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EF30A3BEDA; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 05:56:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 06:56:13 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:rc50 decay..no mixer required. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_=__=_XaM3_.1174974973.2A.944055.42.11518.52.42.007.814882181" From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 05:56:16 +0000 (UTC) --_=__=_XaM3_.1174974973.2A.944055.42.11518.52.42.007.814882181 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The aux-in is a stereo input, just buy a "2 x mono 6.3 mm jack - stere0 3= .5 mm jack" cable and you have a stereo feedback loop :) > you dont need a mixer if you are ok with working in mono....just take = the subout and feed it back into the other stereo input with a short lead= in replace mode. =0A---=0AScarlet ADSL Unlimited =E2=80=93 Slechts 24,95= euro per maand.=0AMax download snelheid tot 6 Mbps, 30 GB download volum= e . Bestel nu=E2=80=A6 --_=__=_XaM3_.1174974973.2A.944055.42.11518.52.42.007.814882181 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    The aux-in is a stereo input, just buy a "2 x mono 6.3 mm jack = - stere0 3.5 mm jack" cable and you have a stereo feedback loop = ;:)
     
    > you dont need a mixer if you are ok= with working in mono....just take the subout and feed it back into the o= ther stereo input with a short lead in replace mode.
    --_=__=_XaM3_.1174974973.2A.944055.42.11518.52.42.007.814882181-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 27 07:19:25 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A5333BEDF; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:19:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=etTy2vWdujSB64DddxYCKnnQWVIfTjr2TwfJRkys5ynZ53HtBjdHDmBKexIyXw/aXyiTU0pkIqbTg6RS1PQ2+1KYwNMhlCQsydzA8dER6GFS2+xc+xs7Xn1PxCxPETbfsHXzgOjTJosCP57OCO3VP4j39WVqmZsIGgDpGSk831k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=qQ5tajezupxbTRx7cFsdfwU+8xx09h8WGZDs8VLWpMe5gOLOBs3lkGTmviPOqK+CJrzscWlC4fJvIw8Q6pEr2C/x5vImc0IcB7109RHFm6NKtk8O9pxvnmihbDPhaazq2UN5UbyFJj7L44qOhFkNXZQ4OFtUOLxmzJCSUZUN7H8= In-Reply-To: <000401c77010$62e37550$4101a8c0@MICHAELPLISHKA> References: <000401c77010$62e37550$4101a8c0@MICHAELPLISHKA> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: other noise Re: EDP noise help (unsoldering) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 09:19:17 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 07:19:25 +0000 (UTC) On 27 mar 2007, at 03.36, Michael Plishka wrote: > Never having an EDP until a couple months ago, how quiet is an EDP > when it's working properly? Is there any hiss, or other noise? In my EDP I can not detect any extra noise added. I mean, not more than any pre amp would. As a comparison, my Ibanez Tube Screamer adds a huge noise floor, so does my Big Muff. Even a Line-6 POD 1 is noisier than the EDP. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 27 08:28:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 79A0F3BEE1; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 08:28:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <001201c77049$eb80f890$6401a8c0@homeanj> From: "arcmotion" To: References: Subject: Re: Re:rc50 decay..no mixer required. Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:28:38 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C7708C.F931C7B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 08:28:45 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C7708C.F931C7B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yeah ....just saw that post earlier.... thanks for the tip. = ....somehow this machine is the most amazing combination for me...i am = really happy with it. i have also been using the loops to create rifs and segments for song = creation whenever i get inspired which is a lot easier and spontaneous = than trying to do it on a laptop....like an ideas scratchpad.=20 i bounce the drum track to its own phrase and then i take all the = segments over to tracktion if i want to develop it. now that this machine has decay and midi in for further experimentation = ....im finding it a real bargain for what it does.... my musical output = has now gone through the roof.....sounds like an advert. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Sjaak=20 To: Loopers-Delight=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 1:56 PM Subject: Re:rc50 decay..no mixer required. The aux-in is a stereo input, just buy a "2 x mono 6.3 mm jack - = stere0 3.5 mm jack" cable and you have a stereo feedback loop :) -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- > you dont need a mixer if you are ok with working in = mono....just take the subout and feed it back into the other stereo = input with a short lead in replace mode. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C7708C.F931C7B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    yeah ....just saw that post = earlier....  =20 thanks for the tip.    ....somehow this machine is the = most=20 amazing combination for me...i am really happy with it.
     
    i have also been using the loops = to create=20 rifs and segments for song creation whenever i get inspired which = is a lot=20 easier and spontaneous than trying to do it on a laptop....like an ideas = scratchpad. 
     
    i bounce the drum track to its own = phrase and then=20 i take all the segments over to tracktion if i want to develop = it.
     
    now that this machine has decay = and midi in=20 for further experimentation ....im finding it a real bargain for = what it=20 does.... my musical output has now gone through the roof.....sounds like = an=20 advert.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 Sjaak=20
    To: Loopers-Delight =
    Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 = 1:56=20 PM
    Subject: Re:rc50 decay..no = mixer=20 required.

    The aux-in is a stereo input, just buy a "2 x mono 6.3 mm = jack -=20 stere0 3.5 mm jack" cable and you have a stereo feedback=20 loop :)
     
    > you dont need a mixer if = you are ok=20 with working in mono....just take the subout and feed it back = into the=20 other stereo input with a short lead in replace mode.=20 =
    ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C7708C.F931C7B0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 27 10:38:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 013353BEDA; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 10:38:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <007b01c7705c$2960f270$16b2a8c0@netzrechner> Reply-To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: Subject: Re: EDP noise help (unsoldering) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:39:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/UofFJqBSMfg4l4KFwk/ax+HBHspF2W5isLzt mr5s7psVbnbiXFbWXP8OE7za2OtqOsA9y6kUNv0R8WJee/o8Aj ZqYvk4HphUBmja/KW8zA2z8Tq4Y0Pxm Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 10:38:39 +0000 (UTC) hi, i had a humming noise problem, too. it was a lot softer when i took the top off. by putting some isolation , i made sure that the top of the case wouldn't touch the transformator. the noise is still there, but it's a lot softer now. somebody told me that the humming is stronger when using the edp with 220 volts. seems that the trafo is ment to be used with 110 v. all the best, tilmann ----- Original Message ----- From: "phill wilson" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 3:28 AM Subject: EDP noise help (unsoldering) > Hi all > > right, ive gone and been a silly chimp, > I bought a second edp l( blackfaced echoplex)last month, but have been so > so busy ive only just got to the pluggin in stage and.............. aaaarh > noise!!! > hummming noisey noise.... > the humming actually starts as soon as the mains cord is plugged in and is > raised to crazy levels as soon as i power on. > the screen displays correctly and all seems in order under the hood,and > ive tried all the normal fixes. ive got another white face echoplex and > have had a noise problem before, and last time i reseated the rams, roms > and the lil square chips and that solved it.........went to do that this > time and HORROR!!!!!! someones gone and put metal covers over the square > chips......so questions > 1.Any idead on the noise cause? > 2. If its what i think it is how do i get those damn covers off? > 3. Why cover the chips? > > thanks for any and all input on this, i knowwe go round in circles on this > subject and i thought i was ok solving my own probs, bt this has me really > bummed out , ve not een used it yet > > Phill Wilson > > _________________________________________________________________ > Txt a lot? Get Messenger FREE on your mobile. > https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 27 13:28:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 13B0F3BEEC; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: RE: controlling loops with a remote (was: Wii Loop Machine utilizes Wiimote to manipulate beats) Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 09:28:39 -0400 Message-ID: <641CEFFC7E5B6C42AB59539653FD08238E270E@wcu-ex-emp2.PASSHE.LCL> In-Reply-To: <000601c76fbf$0b1969c0$1001a8c0@succubus> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: controlling loops with a remote (was: Wii Loop Machine utilizes Wiimote to manipulate beats) Thread-Index: Acdwc9O6UuxyDip8S7ml7NKJB7tasg== From: "Dean, Hal " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Mar 2007 13:28:39.0885 (UTC) FILETIME=[D4E7A7D0:01C77073] Resent-Message-ID: <3NVxkD.A.6AE.HwRCGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:28:40 +0000 (UTC) Rainer- You could just use a wireless keyboard. Maybe larger than you would prefer, but zero learning curve or programming, and very inexpensive. I'm not sure what the distance limitations are. Hal Dean -----Original Message----- From: Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill [mailto:rs@moinlabs.de]=20 Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 11:55 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: controlling loops with a remote (was: Wii Loop Machine utilizes Wiimote to manipulate beats) funny thing...just today when I stepped into my condo returning from work, I thought "hey, controlling your powerpoint presentations or your media player with a mobile phone is cool - now would it be possible to use the same technology to control music stuff?" Perhaps some application (for XP of course ;) which would react to bluetooth messages and translate them into MIDI, which could then control your application via MIDI yoke or something... ...and then you'd need a java application for your phone. Any coders out there who want to go for that? Rainer=20 >=20 > Wii Loop Machine utilizes Wiimote to manipulate beats >=20 > http://tinyurl.com/2z6pa7 loop-machine-utilizes-wiimote-to-manipulate-beats/> >=20 > Bernhard >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 27 14:07:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F0943BEEC; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:07:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: BreachinThePeace@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 10:07:39 EDT Subject: Re: rc50 decay..no mixer required. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1175004459" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5359 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:07:58 +0000 (UTC) -------------------------------1175004459 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please forgive me for chiming in obtusely, but I have an RC-50 question that someone may know the answer to quickly. Is it possible to mix/mute the main throughput signal path and output just the loops you are creating on the RC-50? My old (NOISY!) Boomerang has a mute switch but I am not certain if the same is possible on this device or not. 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    Please forgive me for chiming in obtusely, but I have an RC-50=20 question that someone may know the answer to quickly. Is it possible to= =20 mix/mute the main throughput signal path and output just the loops you=20= are=20 creating on the RC-50? My old (NOISY!) Boomerang has a mute switch but=20= I am=20 not certain if the same is possible on this device or not. You help will be=20 greatly appreciated.
     
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    -------------------------------1175004459-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 27 14:58:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 783603BEE9; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:58:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <46093112.6060802@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 08:58:26 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Composition Contest: in search of the lost chords References: <6.2.5.6.2.20070308003352.046db7c8@sympatico.ca> In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20070308003352.046db7c8@sympatico.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3rOuaB.A.gG.XETCGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:58:32 +0000 (UTC) For those interested, this is my entry to the Glenn Branca "Lost Chord" contest that was discussed a few weeks ago. http://www.swanwelder.com/audio/Daryl_Shawn__The_Prodigal_Sound.mp3 It's a solo acoustic guitar, with all notes being plucked behind the fretting finger or harmonics. Much of is "out of tune" (my idea was to explore microtonality and unusual clusters on a standard-tuned guitar). This is my first experiment in microtones and it was rather fun, there's a chord about a minute in that I really like BECAUSE of its out-of-tunity. Anyone else take part? Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 27 15:06:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6C5733BEEE; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:06:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=s0P+FkaZPx3SW0j1YXkjOj8jrkYrGIbudbEH8VJadmrDy08NDoOqaB+O1umWFjNtxYQaZwMpJHSxpvZyL6/1pZrgveqadEBVN9rknf5IbEhIUtX+LRE1kegY6c/3xDYTd4IaypAuXzBuQ31Aoa/4Q7CiHcFuYKK6NelXuqjekp8= ; X-YMail-OSG: SGqwSbQVM1ncAHY2YcnC_UaRqyE5bWNuYu90lvE4h7Udb.Qm Message-ID: <02a401c77081$6dab8d80$6402a8c0@PC576340162804> From: "Ben" To: References: <657948.86819.qm@web81307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: LD would be so much cooler if... Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:05:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:06:04 +0000 (UTC) I've seen the same discussion in the past for the Nord-modular mailing list. There was a huge traffic on the mailing list with a lot of useful info then a forum appeared and I stopped almost reading any news after a couple of weeks. It's too difficult to keep tracks of things on a forum, you have to use always the same PC, keep the cookies activated or use the search engine and wait for the page to load. You have also to be connected to the net. The problem with this list is more about netiquette. Users don't always use the proper reply button, forget to clean part of the mail they are answering to,... Perhaps we should use predefined tags to insert in the Mail Object like [HW][VST][GIG][OT],.... I'm myself more interested in the specs or rumors of new Hardware loopers appearing than in a psycho-socio-loopo.. discussions that I don't fully understand due to my lack of english vocabulary. Using a more explicit subject with reserved words would allow faster filtering. I'm still a 1000 mail late... my 2 c, Ben. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 27 15:21:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 24AED3BF02; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:21:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=IXYpd7mFFUxTm+/PQe8peLiLInFFnYd8rDFsn5u3g5oIXpUlxm1vEGTF2DBONXO9BWnvh3T3ULWUJSC94JViACWdIWp1YXuD9R0w1P26ftWo4cqkRqd9OEx5YiQjlVXwILBM5kicsiyQHx0ysYgAToOguB+PG3wSxKwOy+drJio= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=tl/a38FdQPDYFRvFFgIuSDP4N3Dq5nqiuyZpImGqre7xIRMrbdVWoeeXKEZ7oifuzqpaJQtPKCn37c6ryYqowEvat1zE/gSh/LdtWR35wYP4EhdJiog/HgzTJEWhzkeOaPkNiAiK5B2wvGl6GvmpWmxaVpY3/q/TqiHPkRMA+rw= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0703270821o22527f29ua6b3f85b2884782e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 17:21:56 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Composition Contest: in search of the lost chords In-Reply-To: <46093112.6060802@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6493_22312211.1175008916042" References: <6.2.5.6.2.20070308003352.046db7c8@sympatico.ca> <46093112.6060802@mhorse.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:21:58 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_6493_22312211.1175008916042 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 3/27/07, Daryl Shawn wrote: > http://www.swanwelder.com/audio/Daryl_Shawn__The_Prodigal_Sound.mp3 > Sounds really good to me! I like that stuff. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) http://www.myspace.com/looproom ------=_Part_6493_22312211.1175008916042 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On 3/27/07, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:

    Sounds really good to me! I like that stuff.

    --
    Greetings from Sweden

    Per Boysen
    www.boysen.se (Swedish)
    www.looproom.com (international)
    http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release)
    http://www.myspace.com/looproom ------=_Part_6493_22312211.1175008916042-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 27 15:34:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F30B03BEE8; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:34:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 16:34:19 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: rc50 decay..no mixer required. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_=__=_XaM3_.1175009659.2A.422761.42.5627.52.42.007.1914132675" From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:34:22 +0000 (UTC) --_=__=_XaM3_.1175009659.2A.422761.42.5627.52.42.007.1914132675 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jef, you can - mute the input sound while continue recording to a phrase - stop (mute) each individual phrase with the stop pedal (with or without= a fade out) - control the level of each individual phrase with a midi expression peda= l (or phrase level knob). 4 options: phrase 1, phrase 2, phrase 3 or curr= ent phrase - control the patch level with a midi expression pedal Sjaak > Please forgive me for chiming in obtusely, but I have an RC-50 questio= n that someone may know the answer to quickly. Is it possible to mix/mute= the main throughput signal path and output just the loops you are creati= ng on the RC-50? My old (NOISY!) Boomerang has a mute switch but I am not= certain if the same is possible on this device or not. You help will be = greatly appreciated.=0A---=0AScarlet ADSL Unlimited =E2=80=93 Slechts 24,= 95 euro per maand.=0AMax download snelheid tot 6 Mbps, 30 GB download vol= ume . Bestel nu=E2=80=A6 --_=__=_XaM3_.1175009659.2A.422761.42.5627.52.42.007.1914132675 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Jef, you can
    - mute the input sound while continue recording to = a phrase
    - stop (mute) each individual phrase with the stop pedal (wit= h or without a fade out)
    - control the level of each individual phrase= with a midi expression pedal (or phrase level knob). 4 options: phrase 1= , phrase 2, phrase 3 or current phrase
    - control the patch level with = a midi expression pedal
     
    Sjaak
     
     
    > Please forgive me for chiming in obtusely, but I have an R= C-50 question that someone may know the answer to quickly. Is it pos= sible to mix/mute the main throughput signal path and output just th= e loops you are creating on the RC-50? My old (NOISY!) Boomerang has= a mute switch but I am not certain if the same is possible on this devic= e or not. You help will be greatly appreciated.
    --_=__=_XaM3_.1175009659.2A.422761.42.5627.52.42.007.1914132675-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 27 19:10:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E0F93BEE9; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:10:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <57591163.1175022559737.JavaMail.root@fepweb07> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 11:09:19 -0800 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Composition Contest: in search of the lost chords Cc: Daryl Shawn MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 66.169.252.252 by mail.charter.net; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:09:19 -0400 X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:10:58 +0000 (UTC) Daryl, Short and sweet (in an atonal sort of way).=20 The late Derek Bailey would be proud I'm sure.=20 I hope the contest judges like your piece. Cheers, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?p= layListId=3D6378076=20 http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ---- Daryl Shawn wrote:=20 > For those interested, this is my entry to the Glenn Branca "Lost Chord"= =20 > contest that was discussed a few weeks ago. >=20 > http://www.swanwelder.com/audio/Daryl_Shawn__The_Prodigal_Sound.mp3 >=20 > It's a solo acoustic guitar, with all notes being plucked behind the=20 > fretting finger or harmonics. Much of is "out of tune" (my idea was to=20 > explore microtonality and unusual clusters on a standard-tuned guitar).= =20 > This is my first experiment in microtones and it was rather fun, there's= =20 > a chord about a minute in that I really like BECAUSE of its out-of-tunity= . >=20 > Anyone else take part? >=20 > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 27 19:33:35 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 51B923BEEE; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:33:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [216.113.128.239] X-Identified-User: {864:box76.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:webmail from 216.113.128.239} Message-ID: <20070327143333.1casp2jy80ok4sw0@69.89.21.76> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:33:33 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Composition Contest: in search of the lost chords References: <57591163.1175022559737.JavaMail.root@fepweb07> In-Reply-To: <57591163.1175022559737.JavaMail.root@fepweb07> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 19:33:35 +0000 (UTC) > ---- Daryl Shawn wrote: >> For those interested, this is my entry to the Glenn Branca "Lost Chord" >> contest that was discussed a few weeks ago. >> >> http://www.swanwelder.com/audio/Daryl_Shawn__The_Prodigal_Sound.mp3 > Good job! Besides the "detuned" notes, that each pitch has a distinct timbre and duration brings to mind the pointalism of composers such as Webern. You handled the challenge well. Sincerely, -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 27 20:21:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 326EC3BEEA; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:21:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=e0ZuIocv3UNmpoJJfmfCPr0kYJugdUhUS0gOMgi7G/HtI7NtjZHrbxO4c2GMKwNMtEjS2aLdcIlvbkhGJvWB+luchtJRbP17HU+dY2LB/RhXbcn3yHalyFaomsG1qwSTEHGLTuG6a5GFjVHW9yy0W2QlvX73Bzhtx0Bh5HV920Q=; X-YMail-OSG: IhnKVYkVM1nDe2yIe6VNPrqhc3l5dsosAt2XVq2pzIRkHQMRE_sHRzFgbdXoDoD..w-- Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 13:21:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: cajón To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <46093112.6060802@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <768505.4769.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:21:34 +0000 (UTC) Hi Gang, Can anybody recomend me a good bargain price cajon for rocking hip hop sounds with good bass and snare sound and integrated cushion sitting pad?there are just many to choose from! i would also be interested in a proper microphone for such percussion types. thanx! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? 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Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 27 20:31:53 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 319C73BEE9; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:31:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?AW:_caj=F3n?= Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 22:32:06 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000b01c770ae$fc89d3e0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <768505.4769.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: AcdwrYNtZcKgQd8jQMCCgzgPJa7R9gAAXCXQ X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OICW8dbe X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 20:31:53 +0000 (UTC) Beyer M88N=20 > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: L.A. Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com]=20 > Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. M=E4rz 2007 22:22 > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Betreff: caj=F3n >=20 > Hi Gang, > Can anybody recomend me a good bargain price cajon for=20 > rocking hip hop sounds with good bass and snare sound and=20 > integrated cushion sitting pad?there are just many to choose=20 > from! i would also be interested in a proper microphone for=20 > such percussion types. > thanx! > Luis >=20 > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom >=20 >=20 >=20 > =20 > ______________________________________________________________ > ______________________ > Need Mail bonding? > Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=3Dlist&sid=3D396546091 >=20 >=20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 27 21:26:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F063F3BEEA; Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:26:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=QImos9u94O1lsPNO5gj81Kflej0pYDqFtQNeykRmNuBNG4YXgjQJ4c9wH/mVy4HUzsVTJwrCxxshXPIiqyLa5y6dPBetFlknL3h5jODHrDyFlDNtBmcwawctkp8Hxs96ERWp8iLtDwcoyE0n6TGjQ/HVaITeN4YiidJV6WZj9oI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=DcCqyU6iHgqTGne3BUrHB+pOtkIJkb+/5yaphSa/VHHXat72Jl2MhmfEAbGjf2v/GbDgzCdrDEmyZ8kBgZMdhl9TF++KdoaSgOya5QUiYVnmIoh995CbKpcSq0yHq1mtMPpg2tCedSQzowYhCM8OdPlqjUB1GWb87sgnqpJBlcg= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:26:39 -0600 From: "Scott Turner" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re:_caj=F3n?= In-Reply-To: <000b01c770ae$fc89d3e0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15165_14381352.1175030799324" References: <768505.4769.qm@web38601.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <000b01c770ae$fc89d3e0$1001a8c0@succubus> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 21:26:40 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_15165_14381352.1175030799324 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Not sure but I saw one just like that at guitar center the other day. Might not be the best but they have them... On 3/27/07, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > > Beyer M88N > > > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: L.A. Angulo [mailto:labaloops@yahoo.com] > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. M=E4rz 2007 22:22 > > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Betreff: caj=F3n > > > > Hi Gang, > > Can anybody recomend me a good bargain price cajon for > > rocking hip hop sounds with good bass and snare sound and > > integrated cushion sitting pad?there are just many to choose > > from! i would also be interested in a proper microphone for > > such percussion types. > > thanx! > > Luis > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > > ______________________ > > Need Mail bonding? > > Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. > > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=3Dlist&sid=3D396546091 > > > > > > ------=_Part_15165_14381352.1175030799324 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Not sure but I saw one just like that at guitar center the other day. Might= not be the best but they have them...

    On 3/27/07, = Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill <rs@moinlabs.de> wrote:
    Beyer M88N

    > -----Ursp= r=FCngliche Nachricht-----
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    > Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. M=E4rz 2007 22:22<= br>> An: Loopers-= Delight@loopers-delight.com
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    > integrated c= ushion sitting pad?there are just many to choose
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    > thanx!
    > Luis
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    >
    > __________________________= ____________________________________
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    >>yippee.....i passed.....awful quite around here, no?

    Just start talking about talented children... then the sparks will fly!

    (Don't ask.)

    Darren

    --Apple-Mail-12--739128537-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 29 07:31:50 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6EAE63BEE6; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 07:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=H/6U/4BBqsL35p8hUGfDh70cmqhIrsHE1sEqGyTEyfq9fk7Bmkwl4hG2ukVUERQIm6U6hJdXWCjc1OVVbdx9PTm9rIttn0U4oGlybg59H4TgLIH6sBuyj4cHPQLcGS3/NvVMimg9KHpebtnSyxjhQfZetucXmltpP9iTGh5Vg6Y=; X-YMail-OSG: Hpf.r4EVM1kgfv3L2_7ko2Mvh3hLSsHy0s7rlNBhYsZvfmoyDpXr8Qxk1mHofFE42HVhsjM5Tkka9W2hB3A9Gc6eB0zfKg5Q65OS Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:31:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Midi question concerning FCB1010 and Roland GP100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <45F7B678.6090009@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <351045.82967.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 07:31:50 +0000 (UTC) Hi Folks, I just insatalled the new UnO software for the FCB1010 but havent been able to solve one misterious tap tempo issue for my roland GP100,ive tried other forums unsuccesfully so i thought i give this list a try: so here it is: i have enabled the note on My EDP is assigned to listen to channel # 3. My Roland GP100 to channel # 2. i have the "note on"global function on the FCB1010 assigned to channel 3 because is the only way to accesss all the midi functions of my echoplex. my roland GP100 uses under its delay block something called "midi note #" to trigger its tap tempos.I have set it up so it listes to midi note # 20. i have tried on the FCB1010 to send control # 20 with the CNT1 function but nothing happens is there another way around assigning tap tempos? (if nothing else works there is also a control pedal switch input in the back of the unit to do it with an external switch,perhaps running a cable from the FCB1010 into the GP100 and enabling the momentary switch function...? what is the difference between "midi note" and "note on"??? thank you! Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 29 10:27:48 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D477E3BEEC; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:27:48 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=fNcTszbYHylrGtNFpXUWo8XpW4nV7TOeSij3RUmhMKjcwTMYd1E45HLhT9fNTv44VMA8wLVivsxCObVEcDaCo6Lcd/dI3sZMgEzm4gsDWO/T09hleF5g/Dl/amwn354nGrQEl0Eg/cEQ2M92zradF3pALvlsR9IhqBZaf/RnrE4= ; X-YMail-OSG: 6H3XOXkVM1mZwGYTVa_sB9blNGOXp7qIrdu_V0W3DOclEOIlExFdDOYlustsKa1dB0KN_AIr1r9FHz_nWCFCNgeQZmtlWXLuHmpJ4XZEWylr.m1lUllEmQdAbNU- Message-ID: <004901c771ec$e2d48eb0$6402a8c0@PC576340162804> From: "Ben" To: Subject: looping and scratching video Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:27:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01C771FD.A56C9610" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:27:48 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C771FD.A56C9610 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DsOoAOaJrWGI Ben. ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C771FD.A56C9610 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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    ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C771FD.A56C9610-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 29 10:30:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 91B5C3BEEC; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:30:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 06:22:05 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to Afterglow and Galactic Travels To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <460BA15D.6020707@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:30:31 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. 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    ------=_NextPart_000_0170_01C7721A.68999400-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 29 14:09:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C04F3BEF6; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:09:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <351045.82967.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <351045.82967.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 10:07:24 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Roland announce RE-20 'space echo' Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1036945144==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120943d3f62a6e428b46513acf039886f2c85709c4405726f5b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:09:21 +0000 (UTC) --============_-1036945144==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" http://www.roland.com/products/en/RE-20/index.html -- --============_-1036945144==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Roland announce RE-20 'space echo'


    http://www.roland.com/products/en/RE-20/index.html



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    --============_-1036945144==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 29 14:23:06 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5E40E3BEEC; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:23:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=QI4zAjKeVNxRxvaMMNOI8/WTfLz+97kLBxJd4tIWXMr+dij5he6shk86BeWOVP+VqiWV0udoPf9YhHHKJP4N/mXj8/dMLQ3Io5pT+YVL0zZS7/dJ5ENrqujda3PD/M3b3N2MXeuWz4bmFSVDoPl9uqI7oJZHqwxAYyOlNvbzXmc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-priority:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=f7mAQ2FYVrFAzRYhKZ/ZsuDm2ahC5G1cTqog1OD3yduVzz7ZjCEjXJBEfMTWq7EE+XyjXx27i+TPSCdubfGHVIcIZRuuhel9yUuZ3tJCysM4rlytvhl1GkQ5oug2fyTMkta1vYxMca/s23qy7DQKuCZ9UHyZVYufeP/P+r/Nllk= In-Reply-To: <017301c77209$a5408690$e701a8c0@pcfabio> References: <017301c77209$a5408690$e701a8c0@pcfabio> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <117CF86E-14FB-45E6-9803-5051CDAD3B99@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Great podcasts! (Re: eterogeneo - - - New E.MAIL address - New WEB SITE) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:22:59 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <_z1r1B.A.svD.Jv8CGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:23:06 +0000 (UTC) On 29 mar 2007, at 15.53, Fabio Anile wrote: > podcast on itunes that i will update on a regular base with my > "nocturne" live looping improvvisations and experimentations Thanks for the hint, I'm now a subscriber to Eterogeneo ;-) Since I bought an iPod I rarely have any dull moment, there are some really good podcasts around that downloads by automatic into my player as soon as a new piece is published. I'm also a subscriber to music podcasts from The Darkroom, Pat Metheney, Classic Masterpieces from Deutsche Welle, Mogwai Podcast, Galactic Travels (nothing there since almost a year, but since it's still online I guess there's hope), Spacemusic hosted by *TC* (fantastic!), Rare Frequency (live sets), Naxos Classical Music Spotlight. The rest of what I'm subscribing to are radio documentaries on politics, philosophy or semantics. Oh, a great music podcast is "Victrola - ambient music by Scott Vickers". It's never being updated but there's almost an album- fill of great minimal piano music uploaded more than a year ago (sound like maybe Eric Satie would, if recording today with an upright bass player from jazz land). Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 29 14:53:55 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BFC33BEEC; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:53:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <025001c77212$10a89550$e701a8c0@pcfabio> Reply-To: "e t e r o g e n e o" From: "e t e r o g e n e o" To: References: <017301c77209$a5408690$e701a8c0@pcfabio> <117CF86E-14FB-45E6-9803-5051CDAD3B99@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Great podcasts! (Re: eterogeneo - - - New E.MAIL address - New WEB SITE) Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 16:53:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Rating: smtp3.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 14:53:55 +0000 (UTC) Thanks, Per ! Then, you're my first podfan ;-) I'll check the podcast you raccomanded, expecially that from Scott Vickers (as you know, i'm a fan on Satie and his style ) Yes, podcast is a great resource ! ciao fabio www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com www.eterogeneo.com/eterogeneo.xml (podcast) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:22 PM Subject: Great podcasts! (Re: eterogeneo - - - New E.MAIL address - New WEB SITE) > On 29 mar 2007, at 15.53, Fabio Anile wrote: > >> podcast on itunes that i will update on a regular base with my >> "nocturne" live looping improvvisations and experimentations > > > Thanks for the hint, I'm now a subscriber to Eterogeneo ;-) > > Since I bought an iPod I rarely have any dull moment, there are some > really good podcasts around that downloads by automatic into my player as > soon as a new piece is published. I'm also a subscriber to music podcasts > from The Darkroom, Pat Metheney, Classic Masterpieces from Deutsche > Welle, Mogwai Podcast, Galactic Travels (nothing there since almost a > year, but since it's still online I guess there's hope), Spacemusic > hosted by *TC* (fantastic!), Rare Frequency (live sets), Naxos Classical > Music Spotlight. The rest of what I'm subscribing to are radio > documentaries on politics, philosophy or semantics. Oh, a great music > podcast is "Victrola - ambient music by Scott Vickers". It's never being > updated but there's almost an album- fill of great minimal piano music > uploaded more than a year ago (sound like maybe Eric Satie would, if > recording today with an upright bass player from jazz land). > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.20/737 - Release Date: > 28/03/2007 16.23 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 29 18:17:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 22FCE3BEEC; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:17:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <460C02AF.8000407@rhein-zeitung.de> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:17:19 +0200 From: Dirk Wilbert User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Roland announce RE-20 'space echo' References: <351045.82967.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <06gd7C.A.YTG.vKADGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:17:20 +0000 (UTC) Hi - I played the RE-20 today at the Musikmesse in Frankfurt. Very nice effect, kind of warm and "vintage" sound - but I don't know how the original sounds - so I can't compare... I'm happy to get the RC50 in the near future - as there was no "RC50XL" which I had hoped for, I will order the RC50 after having played it for about a quarter of an hour today - it was fun. The postings here on the concerning the workaround for the "simulation of feedback" helped me decide... Ricoloop (the guy some people here didn't seem to like a lot last year) performed on the little Roland/Boss stage and it was even better than last year. I think he's a great looping artist (and a good salesman, though ;-) Dirk Charles Zwicky schrieb: > > > http://www.roland.com/products/en/RE-20/index.html > > > > -- > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 29 18:27:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 07F5D3BEF5; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <460C051A.6040102@mhorse.com> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:27:38 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: eterogeneo - - - New E.MAIL address - New WEB SITE References: <017301c77209$a5408690$e701a8c0@pcfabio> In-Reply-To: <017301c77209$a5408690$e701a8c0@pcfabio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:27:46 +0000 (UTC) Really nice looking site, Fabio! Only thing I'd say to improve are some spelling mistakes, for instance "image" misspelled as "immage", and various things in the Looping section. Also, it'd be nice if the short sound bites would continue regardless of where one goes in the navigation, for some pages it cuts off suddenly. looking forward to checking out the music. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Good surfing on www.eterogeneo.com ! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 29 18:32:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8BFDB3BEFA; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:32:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <003401c77230$98d91a30$e701a8c0@pcfabio> Reply-To: "e t e r o g e n e o" From: "e t e r o g e n e o" To: References: <017301c77209$a5408690$e701a8c0@pcfabio> <460C051A.6040102@mhorse.com> Subject: Re: eterogeneo - - - New E.MAIL address - New WEB SITE Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:32:24 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Rating: smtp3.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:32:30 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for feedback Daryl ! Very kind of you... I'm trying to improve my english.....but i made too much mistakes, i know.... I'll check it out. Thanks again fabio www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com www.eterogeneo.com/eterogeneo.xml (podcast) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" To: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 8:27 PM Subject: Re: eterogeneo - - - New E.MAIL address - New WEB SITE > Really nice looking site, Fabio! Only thing I'd say to improve are some > spelling mistakes, for instance "image" misspelled as "immage", and > various things in the Looping section. 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    From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 29 18:46:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 200D03BEF7; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:46:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <460C25C5.60706@imt.net> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:47:01 -0800 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FS: Korg Dw8000, Ensoniq SQ1plus, EPS sampler References: <54288.65.160.58.240.1174927958.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> In-Reply-To: <54288.65.160.58.240.1174927958.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:46:03 +0000 (UTC) My apologies...old email. This totally fouls me up as I assume I'm replying to the person and it defaults tot he group..where in my other group it defaults to the sender! legion@helpwantedproductions.com wrote: From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 29 18:50:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4DB83BEF3; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:50:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=W1ZOwU2Qxd0LBi15NFiSoi6oMEcHgrhtEpLgx7egxvxB53BHHJH/kh1VxzA5S5tPxHn4LXz2EgXvmUeWpz2IPyvYo8DZVSppWL6mkbSBJcRLMd4f8K3NbjWIDWiIFmfEXQyvWHSn+jxcu7spnIz2hbQL21Ojv9jdQ6X6+kdWqNU=; X-YMail-OSG: SKZ00LkVM1k6F6IUGMYkgyZgRH_wXTM5gllJ5nkGUHUy7oN9RgNGyVgKTsulR8buIQ-- Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:50:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Roland announce RE-20 'space echo' To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <460C02AF.8000407@rhein-zeitung.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1879420065-1175194220=:60361" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <904485.60361.qm@web35104.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:50:22 +0000 (UTC) --0-1879420065-1175194220=:60361 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit (Ricoloop (the guy some people here didn't seem to like a lot last year) performed on the little Roland/Boss stage and it was even better than last year. I think he's a great looping artist (and a good salesman, though ;-) ) Boss should have hired that 11 year old dork that was doing the James Brown thing on Yahoo. --------------------------------- Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. --0-1879420065-1175194220=:60361 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit (Ricoloop (the guy some people here didn't seem to like a lot last year)
    performed on the little Roland/Boss stage and it was even better than
    last year. I think he's a great looping artist (and a good salesman,
    though ;-) )

    Boss should have hired that 11 year old dork that was doing the James Brown thing on Yahoo.

    Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate
    in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. --0-1879420065-1175194220=:60361-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 29 21:40:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 53FEF3BEEA; Thu, 29 Mar 2007 21:40:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=uOy9EMeAGNxDg6J7U2iieFyoKnLO1CEBUvsNNm4meZM30fo54Cg6ikIZn5v1KqW5kjyOnW0jM1m4Yz82HLNfjwKN+zrSlKhhCyeWHlqtkEQyvcXuPMR7TeV1LAPErKVFNJMquZwrk/MImXujYCmnXWzKpxPnlt0R8CNlSDm9mbY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=WT87n+pBdSEWs5ccXtXmMobBTBb0C3bEAVPD/maao/D37MhkhgUVtkLbDNW0znRMwtz00hnDuv930DJTUuzNY22BGNCIXfEL/SDs510r8zsB1wIJw8Ev6pxzndvWMC+xgKHfjQhiyvZAGFAP7F0B3e7eqJ68xU+fiW3OALl1qEk= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:40:37 +0100 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Great podcasts! (Re: eterogeneo - - - New E.MAIL address - New WEB SITE) In-Reply-To: <117CF86E-14FB-45E6-9803-5051CDAD3B99@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <017301c77209$a5408690$e701a8c0@pcfabio> <117CF86E-14FB-45E6-9803-5051CDAD3B99@gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 97832aa6b1687c4b Resent-Message-ID: <0SbqlD.A.iVG.WJDDGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 21:40:39 +0000 (UTC) Current favourite podcasts: http://www.phpro.info/afos/main.html - ambient, sometimes a little too heavy on the "synth music", but has a great host. http://www.nowlikephotographs.com/ - instrumental music. regular as clockwork, and hilights some interesting music. and of course my own :) http://www.collective.co.uk/darkroom/podcast.html cheers, os. On 29/03/07, Per Boysen wrote: > On 29 mar 2007, at 15.53, Fabio Anile wrote: > > > podcast on itunes that i will update on a regular base with my > > "nocturne" live looping improvvisations and experimentations > > > Thanks for the hint, I'm now a subscriber to Eterogeneo ;-) > > Since I bought an iPod I rarely have any dull moment, there are some > really good podcasts around that downloads by automatic into my > player as soon as a new piece is published. I'm also a subscriber to > music podcasts from The Darkroom, Pat Metheney, Classic Masterpieces > from Deutsche Welle, Mogwai Podcast, Galactic Travels (nothing there > since almost a year, but since it's still online I guess there's > hope), Spacemusic hosted by *TC* (fantastic!), Rare Frequency (live > sets), Naxos Classical Music Spotlight. The rest of what I'm > subscribing to are radio documentaries on politics, philosophy or > semantics. Oh, a great music podcast is "Victrola - ambient music by > Scott Vickers". It's never being updated but there's almost an album- > fill of great minimal piano music uploaded more than a year ago > (sound like maybe Eric Satie would, if recording today with an > upright bass player from jazz land). > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) > > > -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.collective.co.uk/ http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 30 04:29:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A1DE23BEF3; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 04:29:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <460CAE7E.3000402@imt.net> Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:30:22 -0800 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Repeater in 12-24 months ! References: <745726.7868.qm@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <745726.7868.qm@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 04:29:12 +0000 (UTC) Hehe...I missed this. I had an actual dealing like this with a company called Kalix in the early 90's when the ensoniq soundscape card was announced..then they balked on the idea and said they would sell the chips to other mfgs. These guys made all these promises then lamed with stories about creative labs suing them if they didn't rewrite the literature etc.. All the time Ensoniq knew they had bought no chips at all and were making promises. I grilled them good on this and they said something about having to keep quiet for fear of being black balled in the industry. Gee...I never knew the electronic music industry was run by mafia. hehe. Man. I barely got my money back on a long long long credit card chargeback. -Bob mark sottilaro wrote: >Yeah, and if anyone wants to paypal me money I'll take >deposits for it because I'm sure it's right around the >corner. I can practically taste it!Make sure you sell >your current looper too. Send me the proceeds of that >as well and I'll include special m@l3 1nh@nc3m3nt >p1lz. Be welsh be salaried! > >Mark > >--- "Weideman, Gary" >wrote: > > > >>Laguna Hills, California (March 19, 2007) - Newly >>formed SBD Music, >>Inc., based in Laguna Hills, Calif., has acquired >>Electrix Pro, Inc., a >>leader in manufacturing professional audio >>equipment. >> >>SBD Music, Inc. also announces they have appointed a >>board of directors >>consisting of Mark Buhler, Charles Dotson and Adam >>Scolaro. >> >> >> >>"We saw a tremendous opportunity to acquire a very >>well respected brand >>name in Electrix. We are planning to re-introduce >>new versions of the >>Electrix products over the next twelve to twenty >>four months", says Adam >>Scolaro, president of SBD Music, Inc. >> >> >> >>"We are going to continue manufacturing high quality >>products that >>Electrix is known for, and try to build and expand >>the product line", >>added Mark Buhler. >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ >Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast >with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. >http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 30 07:37:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A8F623BEF9; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:37:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=eWp7rV0RTV++iOL8Wib+9pztU6rkcvbwYb4HpyFrP27T3E2J6jwzpZmb5CD+wsR6O1bTH4auj3QCA0f6xETxA7Rp6w1fWKEmYS3PXKjUC6/hkfcC7KQqNLP9KW1bNJeF8UL9acaKyGIJOUgdv7uh3UNoVqxFEJ4b3p2OeHrcf1M= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=llg71CyzZ3qTyrtCGjZVCT9x7Ci1ch+oRXLkgr9qEUfGNEqmvQ85xKeqx2fcz1htTpsEhwXyNXzOUEEvixMTxQ9PRoD6Z3PG5jrf8RN7+Z+FY5RVDaiqMOYjwK+H2u7WiA7XKItMkZ9/mQGlNzBUDoDxWAD7WHvkSd7fI5C6ll4= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:37:36 -0600 From: "Scott Turner" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Repeater in 12-24 months ! In-Reply-To: <460CAE7E.3000402@imt.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_49576_26987460.1175240256273" References: <745726.7868.qm@web81309.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <460CAE7E.3000402@imt.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:37:38 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_49576_26987460.1175240256273 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline They just said they would add to the product line. Hell they could just slap a new cover on the thing to "re-introduce" it....yeah know...I'll believe it when I see it. On 3/30/07, Bob Weigel wrote: > > Hehe...I missed this. I had an actual dealing like this with a company > called Kalix in the early 90's when the ensoniq soundscape card was > announced..then they balked on the idea and said they would sell the > chips to other mfgs. These guys made all these promises then lamed with > stories about creative labs suing them if they didn't rewrite the > literature etc.. All the time Ensoniq knew they had bought no chips at > all and were making promises. I grilled them good on this and they said > something about having to keep quiet for fear of being black balled in > the industry. Gee...I never knew the electronic music industry was run > by mafia. hehe. Man. I barely got my money back on a long long long > credit card chargeback. -Bob > > mark sottilaro wrote: > > >Yeah, and if anyone wants to paypal me money I'll take > >deposits for it because I'm sure it's right around the > >corner. I can practically taste it!Make sure you sell > >your current looper too. Send me the proceeds of that > >as well and I'll include special m@l3 1nh@nc3m3nt > >p1lz. Be welsh be salaried! > > > >Mark > > > >--- "Weideman, Gary" > >wrote: > > > > > > > >>Laguna Hills, California (March 19, 2007) - Newly > >>formed SBD Music, > >>Inc., based in Laguna Hills, Calif., has acquired > >>Electrix Pro, Inc., a > >>leader in manufacturing professional audio > >>equipment. > >> > >>SBD Music, Inc. also announces they have appointed a > >>board of directors > >>consisting of Mark Buhler, Charles Dotson and Adam > >>Scolaro. > >> > >> > >> > >>"We saw a tremendous opportunity to acquire a very > >>well respected brand > >>name in Electrix. We are planning to re-introduce > >>new versions of the > >>Electrix products over the next twelve to twenty > >>four months", says Adam > >>Scolaro, president of SBD Music, Inc. > >> > >> > >> > >>"We are going to continue manufacturing high quality > >>products that > >>Electrix is known for, and try to build and expand > >>the product line", > >>added Mark Buhler. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >____________________________________________________________________________________ > >Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast > >with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. > >http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather > > > > > > > > > > ------=_Part_49576_26987460.1175240256273 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline They just said they would add to the product line. Hell they could just slap a new cover on the thing to "re-introduce" it....yeah know...I'll believe it when I see it.

    On 3/30/07, Bob Weigel <sounddoctorin@imt.net> wrote:
    Hehe...I missed this.  I had an actual dealing like this with a company
    called Kalix in the early 90's when the ensoniq soundscape card was
    announced..then they balked on the idea and said they would sell the
    chips to other mfgs.  These guys made all these promises then lamed with
    stories about creative labs suing them if they didn't rewrite the
    literature etc..  All the time Ensoniq knew they had bought no chips at
    all and were making promises.  I grilled them good on this and they said
    something about having to keep quiet for fear of being black balled in
    the industry.  Gee...I never knew the electronic music industry was run
    by mafia.  hehe.  Man.  I barely got my money back on a long long long
    credit card chargeback. -Bob

    mark sottilaro wrote:

    >Yeah, and if anyone wants to paypal me money I'll take
    >deposits for it because I'm sure it's right around the
    >corner.  I can practically taste it!Make sure you sell
    >your current looper too.  Send me the proceeds of that
    >as well and I'll include special m@l3 1nh@nc3m3nt
    >p1lz. Be welsh be salaried!
    >
    >Mark
    >
    >--- "Weideman, Gary" <Gary.Weideman@bankofamerica.com>
    >wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >>Laguna Hills, California (March 19, 2007) - Newly
    >>formed SBD Music,
    >>Inc., based in Laguna Hills, Calif., has acquired
    >>Electrix Pro, Inc., a
    >>leader in manufacturing professional audio
    >>equipment.
    >>
    >>SBD Music, Inc. also announces they have appointed a
    >>board of directors
    >>consisting of Mark Buhler, Charles Dotson and Adam
    >>Scolaro.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>"We saw a tremendous opportunity to acquire a very
    >>well respected brand
    >>name in Electrix. We are planning to re-introduce
    >>new versions of the
    >>Electrix products over the next twelve to twenty
    >>four months", says Adam
    >>Scolaro, president of SBD Music, Inc.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>"We are going to continue manufacturing high quality
    >>products that
    >>Electrix is known for, and try to build and expand
    >>the product line",
    >>added Mark Buhler.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >____________________________________________________________________________________
    >Don't get soaked.  Take a quick peek at the forecast
    >with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut.
    > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather
    >
    >
    >
    >


    ------=_Part_49576_26987460.1175240256273-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 30 07:43:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C88D93BEFB; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=NUwD/xPPWnyAcMyHeRkwbtZ8V5NOChqW38dfCMLvSGSc/TiH4mL1h6SHfCcVpQd7NiYaSGa82ARUivlBAwlSO/RnAgvz2XB5iEvRIBqjgGQ8Pph/chBs4wwtptP6hp4mDEv3aWBwHksPOXVkQXFIIoQuToRnXUyas7AhUtjWmB8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Wbg0pjMVH/LEcy6CCP2DmdzMWmATt3+5C9RYRPZg+05iXhlOXTaSzFSBYwOn/ca1prV2JPgg+fl/OagnTcFBZtHMB5Nr2NCtcReoeLT+nwELOCI9P9u842eDpKbppkPLtm/wKJvx/yQJeQ4B8L6w0XsTRDWg3d/dBaXcuufvNcc= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 01:43:37 -0600 From: "Scott Turner" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looping and scratching video In-Reply-To: <004901c771ec$e2d48eb0$6402a8c0@PC576340162804> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_49584_28193213.1175240617100" References: <004901c771ec$e2d48eb0$6402a8c0@PC576340162804> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 07:43:38 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_49584_28193213.1175240617100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline That was cool. I thought you were talking about something more like with a Kaoss Pad Entrancer or something. But that was cool. What looper did he use? On 3/29/07, Ben wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOoAOaJrWGI > > Ben. > > > ------=_Part_49584_28193213.1175240617100 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline That was cool. I thought you were talking about something more like with a Kaoss Pad Entrancer or something. But that was cool. What looper did he use?


    ------=_Part_49584_28193213.1175240617100-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 30 09:10:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30B313BEF3; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.fr; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=cWUMaBhsi4eFB+gK4w6W/vISu/MaWNKO9xA16TfdB3hxOIyGdy7NXkQgJlubQA7jH27ihegbWDrW9Al5C6sAjE5rOAugLJei5LNdtDP+zAFm6famzOz+gSsMhxV5QaUxlJNuymJIpfhg75MXsGh4f+JU6hTNPIl73gZotMkzvfA= ; X-YMail-OSG: 1gV0sTMVM1mgWQyZe6koOSCiW0ByHxYlxQCvEKCmq8_mzXF57oH9I9kfeuhgqU.vLB3fbWoHnhWzp2LvOkC4E3W_xklNMt19kHlt9o5ded8vTz5lwXvY67lhEps- Message-ID: <001b01c772ab$3fe2c9f0$6402a8c0@PC576340162804> From: "Ben" To: References: <004901c771ec$e2d48eb0$6402a8c0@PC576340162804> Subject: Re: looping and scratching video Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:10:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C772BC.02CE4880" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:10:30 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C772BC.02CE4880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Seems to be a digitech Jamman. From: Scott Turner=20 That was cool. I thought you were talking about something more like = with a Kaoss Pad Entrancer or something. But that was cool. What looper = did he use? On 3/29/07, Ben wrote:=20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DsOoAOaJrWGI Ben. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C772BC.02CE4880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Seems to be a digitech = Jamman.
    From:=20 Scott=20 Turner That was cool. I thought you were talking about = something=20 more like with a Kaoss Pad Entrancer or something. But that was cool. = What=20 looper did he use?

    On 3/29/07, Ben=20 <benoitruelle@yahoo.fr>=20 wrote:=20
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DsOoAOaJrWGI
     
    Ben.
     
     

    ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C772BC.02CE4880-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 30 11:59:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9E87F3BED9; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <010501c772c2$cebfd9d0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> Reply-To: "e t e r o g e n e o" From: "e t e r o g e n e o" To: References: <017301c77209$a5408690$e701a8c0@pcfabio> <117CF86E-14FB-45E6-9803-5051CDAD3B99@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Great podcasts! (Re: eterogeneo - - - New E.MAIL address - New WEB SITE) Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 13:59:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Rating: smtp3.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Os, i've subscribed to your podcast. And i've your "Freefall" album, as i say to you in Zurich. I like your way to do ambient music. fabio www.eterogeneo.com www.myspace.com www.eterogeneo.com/eterogeneo.xml (podcast) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Os" To: Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 11:40 PM Subject: Re: Great podcasts! (Re: eterogeneo - - - New E.MAIL address - New WEB SITE) > Current favourite podcasts: > > http://www.phpro.info/afos/main.html - ambient, sometimes a little too > heavy on the "synth music", but has a great host. > > http://www.nowlikephotographs.com/ - instrumental music. regular as > clockwork, and hilights some interesting music. > > and of course my own :) > http://www.collective.co.uk/darkroom/podcast.html > > > cheers, > os. > > > > On 29/03/07, Per Boysen wrote: >> On 29 mar 2007, at 15.53, Fabio Anile wrote: >> >> > podcast on itunes that i will update on a regular base with my >> > "nocturne" live looping improvvisations and experimentations >> >> >> Thanks for the hint, I'm now a subscriber to Eterogeneo ;-) >> >> Since I bought an iPod I rarely have any dull moment, there are some >> really good podcasts around that downloads by automatic into my >> player as soon as a new piece is published. I'm also a subscriber to >> music podcasts from The Darkroom, Pat Metheney, Classic Masterpieces >> from Deutsche Welle, Mogwai Podcast, Galactic Travels (nothing there >> since almost a year, but since it's still online I guess there's >> hope), Spacemusic hosted by *TC* (fantastic!), Rare Frequency (live >> sets), Naxos Classical Music Spotlight. The rest of what I'm >> subscribing to are radio documentaries on politics, philosophy or >> semantics. Oh, a great music podcast is "Victrola - ambient music by >> Scott Vickers". It's never being updated but there's almost an album- >> fill of great minimal piano music uploaded more than a year ago >> (sound like maybe Eric Satie would, if recording today with an >> upright bass player from jazz land). >> >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >> www.looproom.com (international) >> http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) >> http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) >> >> >> > > > -- > os@collective.co.uk > http://www.collective.co.uk/ > http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: > 29/03/2007 13.36 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 30 15:38:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD06E3BEF9; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:38:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1011938815.1175269118732.JavaMail.root@fepweb13> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 7:38:38 -0800 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: e t e r o g e n e o Subject: Re: eterogeneo - - - New E.MAIL address - New WEB SITE) Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 66.169.252.252 by mail.charter.net; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 11:38:38 -0400 X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:38:40 +0000 (UTC) Fabio, Call me old fashioned, but I'd never checked out Podcasts before. Now I'm hooked and I've subscribed to yours. And Per's . . . And Os's Annd some of the other links tht were shared. My my . . . I've been missing out haven't I? Your Podcast was great . . . but much too short. I hope to get to see you play live sometime (on which ever side of the Atla= ntic it happens to be). Thanks for sharing . . . and giving me a new addiction. Cheers, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?p= layListId=3D6378076=20 http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=3D2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 30 17:04:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D6253BEF3; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:04:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0bbd01c772ed$67f58df0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> Reply-To: "e t e r o g e n e o" From: "e t e r o g e n e o" To: Cc: References: <1011938815.1175269118732.JavaMail.root@fepweb13> Subject: Why not a Looper's Delight Podcast ? Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:03:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Rating: smtp5.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: <5CuabB.A.epB.BMUDGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:04:02 +0000 (UTC) It seems that ther's a lot of people here interested in podcasting. So i've start to think: why don't we make a Looper's Delight Podcast ? If Kim is agree about using this title, and some of you are interested, you can send me your mp3 links to some of your preferred live looping performance and i will build a podcast. It could be an interesting way to spread up our world to the rest of the world... What do you think about ? fabio www.eterogeneo.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "tEd ® kiLLiAn" To: "e t e r o g e n e o" Cc: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 5:38 PM Subject: Re: eterogeneo - - - New E.MAIL address - New WEB SITE) Fabio, Call me old fashioned, but I'd never checked out Podcasts before. Now I'm hooked and I've subscribed to yours. And Per's . . . And Os's Annd some of the other links tht were shared. My my . . . I've been missing out haven't I? Your Podcast was great . . . but much too short. I hope to get to see you play live sometime (on which ever side of the Atlantic it happens to be). Thanks for sharing . . . and giving me a new addiction. Cheers, tEd ® kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=6378076 http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.towerrecords.com/product.aspx?pfid=2845073 http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=CBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=view_profile&id=121197000042 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: 29/03/2007 13.36 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 30 17:08:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F4003BF02; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:08:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=FasTSeCAHbRZv2HddIuTdgJiD8ZNQfcFGwbSDKf6TqvZyzIUKXZ+jmA1HJVKHI+G/Qlqg20/mIwNJwwgwdzLuLH/KTD5kIrccUZ+SG1JX7M4z+gFgamloDFdvc+Z+2D6Cx0XoyuqItHH3KpVKketyzej1L7ZJVM16n9fyvyahW0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=iCvi8e/2fFINb2cfps8Dez4jwcVtk7lB2216HPWW/deL8D9U7Et9QXhXP5fSmE/a51ERbnMigtoz7CoFuiYEnpX2r/5eS06hgV3wiMvn/0s2MSMQdb4yXaUHt0IRPtt1I768ChXbCBI5L/SQx2kVGdyQtaxL7FJoEBfPUPy1cwk= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:08:17 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: LD Subject: "Loving The Alien" live version with looping MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_174167_32418516.1175274497736" Resent-Message-ID: <3Lm_0.A.93B.CQUDGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:08:19 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_174167_32418516.1175274497736 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Some of you may remember the original version of this David Bowie song from the '80's. Here's a more recent version with just David and a guitarist, Gerry Leonard, making use of a little live looping in the verses: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlKwCZDGKb0&mode=related&search= ------=_Part_174167_32418516.1175274497736 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Some of you may remember the original version of this David Bowie song from the '80's.  Here's a more recent version with just David and a guitarist, Gerry Leonard, making use of a little live looping in the verses:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlKwCZDGKb0&mode=related&search= ------=_Part_174167_32418516.1175274497736-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 30 17:22:17 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D5BF73BF07; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:22:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0c2101c772ef$f57a4650$e701a8c0@pcfabio> Reply-To: "e t e r o g e n e o" From: "e t e r o g e n e o" To: References: Subject: Re: "Loving The Alien" live version with looping Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:22:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0C1E_01C77300.B8B1E910" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Rating: smtp4.aruba.it 1.6.2 0/1000/N Resent-Message-ID: <-FEqvD.A.dhC.JdUDGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:22:17 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0C1E_01C77300.B8B1E910 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've ever loved that songs. Thanks for sharing fabio www.eterogeneo.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Travis Hartnett=20 To: LD=20 Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 7:08 PM Subject: "Loving The Alien" live version with looping Some of you may remember the original version of this David Bowie song = from the '80's. Here's a more recent version with just David and a = guitarist, Gerry Leonard, making use of a little live looping in the = verses:=20 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DwlKwCZDGKb0&mode=3Drelated&search=3D=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.22/739 - Release Date: = 29/03/2007 13.36 ------=_NextPart_000_0C1E_01C77300.B8B1E910 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    I've ever loved that=20 songs.
    Thanks for = sharing
     
    fabio
    www.eterogeneo.com
     
    ----- Original Message -----
    From:=20 Travis Hartnett
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    Some of you may remember the original version of this = David=20 Bowie song from the '80's.  Here's a more recent version with = just David=20 and a guitarist, Gerry Leonard, making use of a little live looping in = the=20 verses:

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    ------=_NextPart_000_0C1E_01C77300.B8B1E910-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 30 17:25:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B5723BF0B; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:25:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=AazavcJFlMPi5MtuvXMBax4D5qmacMLsQ4xy8jGiy/H3AIXuAw7mdyynfdc/Y7YHON+aKeQGa5Xd7t26OPWjZUXmWuGZ0K7iVx60ygMvEw/9XkcLD2AFfEeLEpPW05pR/khNommAfxPwlSy3AneZ5oocmlDb6XvH9b5FcISgWQo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=T2IHSbln6qohi1a+Pvd77sjNKgKFDKIrmN2flTRXpHJ1mOMe6z2BVwxrgpUhJFXtmW4laI1r94HYVgWYoLPiFv8rMHzGju2zAt4bpkF2IDzrqriYpZN3HDYCFtCH+vldoJ4o9358jvmMalFT1G7YphkuDO0cFxAj1DniQ7zZDOE= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6C89D96A-068B-4647-A87D-E0FE98CFDD38@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: "Loving The Alien" live version with looping Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:24:57 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:25:05 +0000 (UTC) On 30 mar 2007, at 19.08, Travis Hartnett wrote: > Some of you may remember the original version of this David Bowie > song from the '80's. Here's a more recent version with just David > and a guitarist, Gerry Leonard, making use of a little live looping > in the verses: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlKwCZDGKb0&mode=related&search= That's an excellent version of that song! Thanks for posting the tip. When I saw the gig here in Stockholm four years ago they did it exactly like that. I guess this was filmed at the same tour? Anyway - what a nice timing those two guys have when performing that song! Bravissimo! :-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 30 18:27:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EC2A43BEF7; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:27:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <6C89D96A-068B-4647-A87D-E0FE98CFDD38@gmail.com> References: <6C89D96A-068B-4647-A87D-E0FE98CFDD38@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Teddy Kumpel Subject: new videos from Mister Shifty Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:27:44 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:27:36 +0000 (UTC) I've posted some new videos of my band Mister Shifty heavy use of looping with the RC-50 and EH 16 second delay at the same time.... except in the Madonna song... that has no looping. we figured that she already did it with loops so we should do it different. http://myspace.com/mistershifty Teddy PS. I'm really enjoying being on this list... most excellent. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 30 18:54:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4D6AE3BEF6; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:54:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #1228034 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19t3uQkcOdt3isBfVvbK5zpYA15NsKmXM7EfT7DV7 FYx8YqrLhs1/Eb Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: <6C89D96A-068B-4647-A87D-E0FE98CFDD38@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <4d93b8a9e90ca231bf0750595e93be6b@gmx.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: nico spahni Subject: Re: new videos from Mister Shifty Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 20:54:30 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: <-V072C.A.6O.vzVDGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:54:40 +0000 (UTC) Teddy, thanks for sharing. I love it! It's so cool. Keep up that spirit for another 26 years. Nico Am 30.03.2007 um 20:27 schrieb Teddy Kumpel: > I've posted some new videos of my band Mister Shifty > > heavy use of looping with the RC-50 and EH 16 second delay at the same > time.... > except in the Madonna song... that has no looping. we figured that she > already did it with loops so we should do it different. > > http://myspace.com/mistershifty > > Teddy > > PS. I'm really enjoying being on this list... most excellent. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 30 18:59:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 655CD3BEF9; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:59:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <460D5DF7.9030108@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:59:03 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Why not a Looper's Delight Podcast ? References: <1011938815.1175269118732.JavaMail.root@fepweb13> <0bbd01c772ed$67f58df0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> In-Reply-To: <0bbd01c772ed$67f58df0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 18:59:10 +0000 (UTC) I think this is an excellent idea, it seems like people are recording new stuff all the time. I've never subscribed to a podcast but I'd start for this. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 30 19:09:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C048C3BEDC; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:09:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 15:01:09 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #522 for March 29, 2007 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <460D6C85.9050703@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.10 (Windows/20070221) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:09:34 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/070329.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #522 March 29, 2007 RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on Paul Lawler. The Featured CD at Midnight was "33 1/3 RPM" by Arcane on NeuHarmony Records. The Vinyl Starter was from the LP "Mosaique" by Robert Schroder on Racket Records and released in 1981. Paul Lawler - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#mar PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Robert Schroder Computervoice Mosaique (Racket) Broekhuis, Keller, Memories of Space Cowboys @ Jelenia Gora Yesterday Part 1 (Ricochet Dream) Palancar Heretic Precis (Blue Water) Ian Boddy All Roads Lead To Elemental (DiN) Home Amongst Myselves Breybox Shadow Auburn Silhouette (Amongst Projects) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Arcane 33 1/3 RPM Side One 33 1/3 RPM (NeuHarmony) Arcane 33 1/3 RPM Side Two 33 1/3 RPM (NeuHarmony) Arcane Dr. Wutzke's 33 1/3 RPM (NeuHarmony) Psychedelic Wonder Machine Arcane Silent Thief On A 33 1/3 RPM (NeuHarmony) Desert Train Arcane The Taxidermist 33 1/3 RPM (NeuHarmony) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Jean- Pierre Saccomani. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "The Four Seasons" on MCP Records. The Vinyl Starter will be from the LP "On Land" by Brian Eno on EG Records and released in 1982. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 30 19:26:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7FD9D3BEFE; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:26:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #1228034 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+006t+JJG0f5fcTCz3LabDxp3OgFXe6TSDhZakV/ As2IfVR5sg52QD Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <460D5DF7.9030108@mhorse.com> References: <1011938815.1175269118732.JavaMail.root@fepweb13> <0bbd01c772ed$67f58df0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> <460D5DF7.9030108@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <03a19887115733c9a8bdaa488d954a43@gmx.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: nico spahni Subject: Re: Why not a Looper's Delight Podcast ? Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 21:26:03 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:26:11 +0000 (UTC) You can certainly count me in! Nico www.recpro.ch www.myspace.com/nicospahni Am 30.03.2007 um 20:59 schrieb Daryl Shawn: > I think this is an excellent idea, it seems like people are recording > new stuff all the time. I've never subscribed to a podcast but I'd > start for this. > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 30 19:40:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 71A5C3BF02; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:40:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <0bbd01c772ed$67f58df0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> References: <1011938815.1175269118732.JavaMail.root@fepweb13> <0bbd01c772ed$67f58df0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <35F4CC8E-A0C4-4511-B228-C26C4241E3B8@finleysound.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Matthew F. McCabe" Subject: Re: Why not a Looper's Delight Podcast ? Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:40:54 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Resent-Message-ID: <2bIW9C.A.lPD.JfWDGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:40:58 +0000 (UTC) Great idea. I have been mulling over a similar idea. Personally, I would like to see a format where the artist is interviewed, talks about their technique and how a particular song was written/recorded, and then we hear the song! I'd be happy to volunteer to do some interviews and/or help produce the podcast. Matt --- King Never http://www.kingnever.com On Mar 30, 2007, at 10:03 AM, e t e r o g e n e o wrote: > It seems that ther's a lot of people here interested in podcasting. > So i've start to think: why don't we make a Looper's Delight Podcast ? > If Kim is agree about using this title, and some of you are > interested, > you can send me your mp3 links to some of your preferred live looping > performance and i will build a podcast. > It could be an interesting way to spread up our world to the rest > of the world... > > What do you think about ? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 30 20:57:04 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7DCC53BEF1; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 20:57:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Why not a Looper's Delight Podcast ? Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:57:18 +0200 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000301c7730e$00cc8bd0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <35F4CC8E-A0C4-4511-B228-C26C4241E3B8@finleysound.com> Thread-Index: AcdzA1dLjR+9otRrSdeyAhCLisskiAACpBfA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OIWFA43hLVs= X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 Resent-Message-ID: <_TZRI.A.DhH.gmXDGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 20:57:04 +0000 (UTC) I'd like to participate in whatever anyone whips up from here! Rainer > Personally, I would like to see a format where the artist is > interviewed, talks about their technique and how a particular > song was written/recorded, and then we hear the song! I'd be From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 30 21:06:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E54B83BEE6; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 21:06:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:04:44 -0400 (EDT) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Why not a Looper's Delight Podcast ? In-Reply-To: <0bbd01c772ed$67f58df0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> Message-ID: References: <1011938815.1175269118732.JavaMail.root@fepweb13> <0bbd01c772ed$67f58df0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 21:06:58 +0000 (UTC) I'd like to play. So to speak :). Steve B Subscape Annex http://www.subscapeannex.com/ On Fri, 30 Mar 2007, e t e r o g e n e o wrote: > It seems that ther's a lot of people here interested in podcasting. > So i've start to think: why don't we make a Looper's Delight Podcast ? > If Kim is agree about using this title, and some of you are interested, > you can send me your mp3 links to some of your preferred live looping > performance and i will build a podcast. > It could be an interesting way to spread up our world to the rest of the > world... > > What do you think about ? > > fabio > www.eterogeneo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Mar 30 23:42:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7E4323BEF4; Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:42:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: <1011938815.1175269118732.JavaMail.root@fepweb13> <0bbd01c772ed$67f58df0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Teddy Kumpel Subject: Re: Why not a Looper's Delight Podcast ? Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:42:23 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Resent-Message-ID: <_VpiT.A.L-.XBaDGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:42:15 +0000 (UTC) your music is amazing steve b... I like the ambient stuff like yours.... so different than what I do, but we are connected through technology. wild. is that an actual saw in "two snakes and a badger" or a sample? teddy On Mar 30, 2007, at 5:04 PM, burnett@pobox.com wrote: > I'd like to play. So to speak :). > > Steve B > Subscape Annex http://www.subscapeannex.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 31 00:25:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 659483BEE6; Sat, 31 Mar 2007 00:25:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 20:23:17 -0400 (EDT) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Re: Why not a Looper's Delight Podcast ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <1011938815.1175269118732.JavaMail.root@fepweb13> <0bbd01c772ed$67f58df0$e701a8c0@pcfabio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 00:25:33 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, 30 Mar 2007, Teddy Kumpel wrote: > your music is amazing steve b... I like the ambient stuff like yours.... > so different than what I do, but we are connected through technology. > wild. Thank you very much, I appreciate the nice words. > > is that an actual saw in "two snakes and a badger" or a sample? No sample, and no actual saw either actually :). Everything on that was either a Yamaha CS-60 1970s-era analog synth, a Korg MS-2000 synth, a Chapman Stick, or a theremin. I'm pretty sure the saw-sound was then-member Anthony using his Yamaha CS-60, perhaps fed through an effects pedal or two. I'm sorry I'm not more precise, but that was 2002, and of the three people playing on that track I don't think that saw sound was my contribution. best, Steve B Subscape Annex http://www.subscapeannex.com/ > > teddy > > On Mar 30, 2007, at 5:04 PM, burnett@pobox.com wrote: > >> I'd like to play. So to speak :). >> >> Steve B >> Subscape Annex http://www.subscapeannex.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 31 01:03:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AB0163BEF5; Sat, 31 Mar 2007 01:03:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [87.102.69.27] X-Originating-Email: [blackface@hotmail.co.uk] X-Sender: blackface@hotmail.co.uk In-Reply-To: From: "phill wilson" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: EDP noise help (unsoldering) 2nd try Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 01:02:57 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 Mar 2007 01:03:00.0567 (UTC) FILETIME=[53D87E70:01C77330] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 01:03:03 +0000 (UTC) many thanks to those who have tried surgestions... ive tried all the ideas and am sure the noise is definatly edp internals related not the ambient conditions/ uk voltage etc. i need advice from anyone who has ever had to take off those damn heat/static covers on the blackface unit that now cover the two main chips that you could get to on my beigeface unit. any tips of unsoldering, or should i try prising them off or maybe cutting them off?? any final words of wisdom cheers all Phill >From: "phill wilson" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: EDP noise help (unsoldering) >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:28:04 +0000 > >Hi all > >right, ive gone and been a silly chimp, >I bought a second edp l( blackfaced echoplex)last month, but have been so >so busy ive only just got to the pluggin in stage and.............. aaaarh >noise!!! >hummming noisey noise.... >the humming actually starts as soon as the mains cord is plugged in and is >raised to crazy levels as soon as i power on. >the screen displays correctly and all seems in order under the hood,and >ive tried all the normal fixes. ive got another white face echoplex and >have had a noise problem before, and last time i reseated the rams, roms >and the lil square chips and that solved it.........went to do that this >time and HORROR!!!!!! someones gone and put metal covers over the square >chips......so questions >1.Any idead on the noise cause? >2. If its what i think it is how do i get those damn covers off? >3. Why cover the chips? > >thanks for any and all input on this, i knowwe go round in circles on this >subject and i thought i was ok solving my own probs, bt this has me really >bummed out , ve not een used it yet > >Phill Wilson > >_________________________________________________________________ >Txt a lot? Get Messenger FREE on your mobile. >https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/ > _________________________________________________________________ Txt a lot? Get Messenger FREE on your mobile. https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 31 01:22:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 281663BEF6; Sat, 31 Mar 2007 01:22:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: O T..... i went and did it! Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 21:22:21 -0400 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 24126 Message-Id: <8C9414A2A16776B-4C8-356F@WEBMAIL-DF17.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 205.188.104.81 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 01:22:33 +0000 (UTC) yesterday at 11:30 AM i called "sweetwater" and bought a korg D1200mkII digital recording "studio".....12 month same as cash, 0% interest with their credit card.....and low and behold when i went out to get my mail today about 1:00 PM there it sat on my front porch.....yikes, can't complain about the service.....the thing cost $499.96, no tax, no shipping, so now i have 12 months to get $500 together (it's ez to save $ if you never leave your home).....it came with a vidio-tape instruction thingee that i blasted into my vcr.....after 5 mins. of watching, i was ready to send it back.....talk about counter-intuative.....press this button, push this knob, turn toward memphis, close your left eye twice, slid this slidder.....LORDY, my worst nitemare......this has to be as crazy as a DAW.....what did i get myself into?.....:).....tonite, i smacked my guitar into this puppy and began to delve the depths.....I SEE A LITE AT THE END OF THE CABLE!.....i would think that all of these button presses etc. can become second nature and indeed i will be able to record with it.....oh happy day.....i got $200 worth out of it tonite just jammin to the built in beats, i have never had a drum machine before, fun stuff.....my mind is awash with the possibilities......after thinking "live looping" for so long this is a refreshing new mind set.....now all i have to do is come up with something new to record, "THE BIG CD"......i have my sexy old marantz 4 trac cassette but the motor is shot.....any suggestions?..... i was considering using it as a small mixer so i can send MORE STUFF into my mackie 1202.....it never ends does it?.....so stay tuned, KLOBUCHAR is back in the studio and ready to turn off all kinds of new people.....:).....i keep sending out cds of my old tunes to people that i never hear from again, what does this tell ya?.....i hope this didn't seem like a commercial, i just wanted to share my silly joy at being again able to record.....michael p.s. i love the idea of a LD PODCAST! ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 31 01:31:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 498AA3BEF9; Sat, 31 Mar 2007 01:31:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com References: <6C89D96A-068B-4647-A87D-E0FE98CFDD38@gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: new videos from Mister Shifty Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 21:31:21 -0400 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: nemoguitt@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 24126 Message-Id: <8C9414B6C48282B-4C8-35B3@WEBMAIL-DF17.sysops.aol.com> X-AOL-IP: 205.188.104.81 X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: <0Iaa4C.A.L4G.6nbDGB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 01:31:42 +0000 (UTC) teddy.....great FUN stuff.....thnaks for the share.....michael http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepmeci/ www.ct-collective.com << I've posted some new videos of my band Mister Shifty=C2=A0 =C2=A0 heavy use of looping with the RC-50 and EH 16 second delay at the same=20 time....=C2=A0 except in the Madonna song... that has no looping. we figured that she=20 already did it with loops so we should do it different.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://myspace.com/mistershifty=C2=A0>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free=20 from AOL at AOL.com. =3D0 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 31 02:10:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 816483BEF1; Sat, 31 Mar 2007 02:10:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=pRTqW8i/S9IY9nTbt8xVU1YizN/0YV5r5wjx1SR6BATdq2o2xoDbIFKRvb+hKnHp; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Message-ID: <6482574.1175307028600.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:10:28 -0400 (EDT) From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Reply-To: stanitarium@earthlink.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: O T..... i went and did it! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: e4eaaa48e0468cfae77aa5cb369a9f3f9ef193a6bfc3dd481b348ce67f90e19af11874cb95d4fa680ca2637590cc961d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.48 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 02:10:29 +0000 (UTC) Yo Mikee- you sent me a cd of yer stuff many moons ago and i think i sent you a "goodonye" comment or two and i remember you wrote back 'you couldnt remember which stuff you had sent me' er somethin like that... anyway the world awaits yer new endeavor. "turn off all kinds of new people" i love that line! s -----Original Message----- >From: nemoguitt@aol.com >Sent: Mar 30, 2007 9:22 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: O T..... i went and did it! .....so stay tuned, KLOBUCHAR is back in the studio and ready >to turn off all kinds of new people.....:).....i keep sending out cds >of my old tunes to people that i never hear from again, what does this >tell ya?.....i hope this didn't seem like a commercial, i just wanted >to share my silly joy at being again able to record.....michael >p.s. i love the idea of a LD PODCAST! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 31 02:36:38 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 254E03BEF6; Sat, 31 Mar 2007 02:36:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=uGJOy5Int7D0hwkT4WbVwty6QmqG/hw2c++kCqtNbDa0zQWzHknSEqN2AqUTpSIfob8hy+zEmpcCPOuPnnZhoeUi9DJfDdFKTe6d5gP6pUrFPgElwV1g/WHSGt32Wyrsd9YZF+2UunEAAlduY1s68Ykjv9WdJbnOIYa/TkKB47w=; X-YMail-OSG: lvizNjwVM1k0SwoLNClGSHUznBv9d3aR3JY9nODH_HwUONcA_1CoGZGO1GqudA4MgDyEZljHK3Ar.ERm8GAHSFlhtxQKLfRG1CCUHbSVndKxnFi_UX2OGOpXC1ywbwlayDSheqs6lMoUaK35gSlzIvuWFA-- Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:36:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: O T..... i went and did it! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <8C9414A2A16776B-4C8-356F@WEBMAIL-DF17.sysops.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-724441063-1175308596=:49286" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <535064.49286.qm@web35107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/69247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 02:36:38 +0000 (UTC) --0-724441063-1175308596=:49286 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yes. I used to have one of those (paid about a grand for it). It's a cool device BUT-you hit upon it-it's kind of a pain to use. Not the most intuitive of devices. The key is to use it often. I only used mine intermittently hence some of the procedures were forgotten. Good price on that unit, though. I was almost tempted to buy one but I bought a Vox AD60VTX for $499. What a world. P nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: yesterday at 11:30 AM i called "sweetwater" and bought a korg D1200mkII digital recording "studio".....12 month same as cash, 0% interest with their credit card.....and low and behold when i went out to get my mail today about 1:00 PM there it sat on my front porch.....yikes, can't complain about the service.....the thing cost $499.96, no tax, no shipping, so now i have 12 months to get $500 together (it's ez to save $ if you never leave your home).....it came with a vidio-tape instruction thingee that i blasted into my vcr.....after 5 mins. of watching, i was ready to send it back.....talk about counter-intuative.....press this button, push this knob, turn toward memphis, close your left eye twice, slid this slidder.....LORDY, my worst nitemare......this has to be as crazy as a DAW.....what did i get myself into?.....:).....tonite, i smacked my guitar into this puppy and began to delve the depths.....I SEE A LITE AT THE END OF THE CABLE!.....i would think that all of these button presses etc. can become second nature and indeed i will be able to record with it.....oh happy day.....i got $200 worth out of it tonite just jammin to the built in beats, i have never had a drum machine before, fun stuff.....my mind is awash with the possibilities......after thinking "live looping" for so long this is a refreshing new mind set.....now all i have to do is come up with something new to record, "THE BIG CD"......i have my sexy old marantz 4 trac cassette but the motor is shot.....any suggestions?..... i was considering using it as a small mixer so i can send MORE STUFF into my mackie 1202.....it never ends does it?.....so stay tuned, KLOBUCHAR is back in the studio and ready to turn off all kinds of new people.....:).....i keep sending out cds of my old tunes to people that i never hear from again, what does this tell ya?.....i hope this didn't seem like a commercial, i just wanted to share my silly joy at being again able to record.....michael p.s. i love the idea of a LD PODCAST! ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. --------------------------------- Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. --0-724441063-1175308596=:49286 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yes. I used to have one of those (paid about a grand for it). It's a cool
    device BUT-you hit upon it-it's kind of a pain to use. Not the most
    intuitive of devices. The key is to use it often. I only used mine
    intermittently hence some of the procedures were forgotten. Good price on
    that unit, though. I was almost tempted to buy one but I bought a Vox
    AD60VTX for $499. What a world.

    P

    nemoguitt@aol.com wrote:
    yesterday at 11:30 AM i called "sweetwater" and bought a korg D1200mkII
    digital recording "studio".....12 month same as cash, 0% interest with
    their credit card.....and low and behold when i went out to get my mail
    today about 1:00 PM there it sat on my front porch.....yikes, can't
    complain about the service.....the thing cost $499.96, no tax, no
    shipping, so now i have 12 months to get $500 together (it's ez to save
    $ if you never leave your home).....it came with a vidio-tape
    instruction thingee that i blasted into my vcr.....after 5 mins. of
    watching, i was ready to send it back.....talk about
    counter-intuative.....press this button, push this knob, turn toward
    memphis, close your left eye twice, slid this slidder.....LORDY, my
    worst nitemare......this has to be as crazy as a DAW.....what did i get
    myself into?.....:).....tonite, i smacked my guitar into this puppy and
    began to delve the depths.....I SEE A LITE AT THE END OF THE
    CABLE!.....i would think that all of these button presses etc. can
    become second nature and indeed i will be able to record with it.....oh
    happy day.....i got $200 worth out of it tonite just jammin to the
    built in beats, i have never had a drum machine before, fun
    stuff.....my mind is awash with the possibilities......after thinking
    "live looping" for so long this is a refreshing new mind set.....now
    all i have to do is come up with something new to record, "THE BIG
    CD"......i have my sexy old marantz 4 trac cassette but the motor is
    shot.....any suggestions?..... i was considering using it as a small
    mixer so i can send MORE STUFF into my mackie 1202.....it never ends
    does it?.....so stay tuned, KLOBUCHAR is back in the studio and ready
    to turn off all kinds of new people.....:).....i keep sending out cds
    of my old tunes to people that i never hear from again, what does this
    tell ya?.....i hope this didn't seem like a commercial, i just wanted
    to share my silly joy at being again able to record.....michael
    p.s. i love the idea of a LD PODCAST!
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Sorry if I'm treading old ground - I usually skip EDP threads, but:

>the humming actually starts as soon as the mains cord is plugged in and is
>raised to crazy levels as soon as i power on.

that rather smells of plain old trusty ground loop to me. Have you ruled
that out? Running the unit stand-alone / away from rack should help
determine that.

Good luck,
Nic

On 3/30/07, phill wilson  wrote:
>
> many thanks to those who have tried surgestions...
>
> ive tried all the ideas and am  sure the noise is definatly edp internals
> related not the ambient conditions/ uk  voltage etc. i need advice from
> anyone who has ever had to take off those damn heat/static covers on the
> blackface unit  that now cover the two main chips that you could get to on
> my beigeface  unit.
> any tips of unsoldering, or should i try prising them off or maybe cutting
> them off??
> any final words of wisdom
>
> cheers all
>
> Phill
>
>
>
> >From: "phill wilson" 
> >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >Subject: EDP noise help (unsoldering)
> >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:28:04 +0000
> >
> >Hi all
> >
> >right, ive gone and been a silly chimp,
> >I bought a second edp l( blackfaced echoplex)last month, but have been so
> >so busy ive only just got to the pluggin in stage and..............
> aaaarh
> >noise!!!
> >hummming noisey noise....
> >the humming actually starts as soon as the mains cord is plugged in and
> is
> >raised to crazy levels as soon as i power on.
> >the screen displays correctly  and all seems in order under the hood,and
> >ive tried all the normal fixes. ive got another white face echoplex and
> >have had a noise problem before, and last time i reseated the rams, roms
> >and the lil square chips and that solved it.........went to do that this
> >time and HORROR!!!!!! someones gone and put metal covers over the square
> >chips......so questions
> >1.Any idead on the noise cause?
> >2. If its what i think it is how do i get those damn covers off?
> >3. Why cover the chips?
> >
> >thanks for any and all input on this, i knowwe go round in circles on
> this
> >subject and i thought i was ok solving my own probs, bt this has me
> really
> >bummed out , ve not een used it yet
> >
> >Phill Wilson
> >
> >_________________________________________________________________
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Sorry if I'm treading old ground - I usually skip EDP threads, but:

    >the humming actually starts as soon as the mains cord is plugged in and is
    >raised to crazy levels as soon as i power on.

    that rather smells of plain old trusty ground loop to me. Have you ruled that out? Running the unit stand-alone / away from rack should help determine that.


    Good luck,
    Nic

    On 3/30/07, phill wilson <blackface@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
    
many thanks to those who have tried surgestions...

    ive tried all the ideas and am  sure the noise is definatly edp internals
    related not the ambient conditions/ uk  voltage etc. i need advice from
    anyone who has ever had to take off those damn heat/static covers on the

    blackface unit  that now cover the two main chips that you could get to on
    my beigeface  unit.
    any tips of unsoldering, or should i try prising them off or maybe cutting
    them off??
    any final words of wisdom


    cheers all

    Phill



    >From: "phill wilson" <blackface@hotmail.co.uk>
    >Reply-To: 
Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    >Subject: EDP noise help (unsoldering)
    >Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:28:04 +0000

    >
    >Hi all
    >
    >right, ive gone and been a silly chimp,
    >I bought a second edp l( blackfaced echoplex)last month, but have been so
    >so busy ive only just got to the pluggin in stage and.............. aaaarh

    >noise!!!
    >hummming noisey noise....
    >the humming actually starts as soon as the mains cord is plugged in and is
    >raised to crazy levels as soon as i power on.
    >the screen displays correctly  and all seems in order under the hood,and

    >ive tried all the normal fixes. ive got another white face echoplex and
    >have had a noise problem before, and last time i reseated the rams, roms
    >and the lil square chips and that solved it.........went to do that this

    >time and HORROR!!!!!! someones gone and put metal covers over the square
    >chips......so questions
    >1.Any idead on the noise cause?
    >2. If its what i think it is how do i get those damn covers off?

    >3. Why cover the chips?
    >
    >thanks for any and all input on this, i knowwe go round in circles on this
    >subject and i thought i was ok solving my own probs, bt this has me really
    >bummed out , ve not een used it yet

    >
    >Phill Wilson
    >
    >_________________________________________________________________
    >Txt a lot? Get Messenger FREE on your mobile.
    >
https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/
    >

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Fabio,

I'll send you some tunes -- if you don't already have my CD.

I'd like to participate if you're willing to do it.

Cheers,

Ted



> ----- Original Message -----
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>
>> It seems that ther's a lot of people here interested in podcasting.
>> So i've start to think: why don't we make a Looper's Delight Podcast ?
>> If Kim is agree about using this title, and some of you are 
>> interested,
>> you can send me your mp3 links to some of your preferred live looping
>> performance and i will build a podcast.
>> It could be an interesting way to spread up our world to the rest of 
>> the
>> world...
>>
>> What do you think about ?
>>
>> fabio
>> www.eterogeneo.com

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Come on, people !
Rick, Bill, Kris, Michael, Bernhard, Andy, Jeff etc.......where are you ?

fabio
www.eterogeneo.com

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Ok, it has been quite some time since my last Ninjam stuff, and I do have
fond memories (and recordings) of such sessions with a lot of people from
here (thanks - you know who you are!), so here's the next round of fun:

Anyone in for some fun of that specific kind in the near future? In my case,
CW15 and CW16 will be off work, so I'll be able to adapt to transatlantic
(-pacific) times without any problems!

All the best,

	Rainer

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here I am :-)

please feel free to include anything you like from www.andybutler.com

...and thanks, this looks v.interesting

andy 

ps,
do you need iTunes to listen?

e t e r o g e n e o wrote:
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> Rick, Bill, Kris, Michael, Bernhard, Andy, Jeff etc.......where are you ?
> 
> fabio
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On 31 mar 2007, at 13.38, andy butler wrote:

> ps,
> do you need iTunes to listen?


There are several accurate answers to that question, all covering the  
area between "yes" and "no" ;-))

A podcast is made up of a RSS document posted to an online server. In  
this RSS code different tags  tell if this is an enhanced podcast,  
with the option to include links and pictures in synchronization to  
the music (like a Power Point show), or if it's an old type of  
podcast that simply transmits an audio file together with text  
documentation. The RSS document also include links to the audio files  
that are to be transmitted. These audio files can be MP3 compressed  
or AAC compressed. For an enhanced podcast it has to be AAC for the  
picture sync to work. These files typically have end with m4a, m4b or  
m4p. I'm not completely sure, but I think they need iTunes to play  
back. Anyone else know for sure?

Normally the URL of the RSS document, that runs the show, is  
submitted to Apple's iTunes Music Store so it can be searchable. As  
usual, the problem with Apple is that they don't allow anyone to look  
behind curtains, so there is no way to get statistics for downloads.  
Another company, http://www.feedburner.com, offers a free service of  
setting up a kind of "hi-jack route link" between the index RSS  
document and iTMS. At least that's how I have understood how they  
achieve what they're doing. If you go with Feedburner you get the  
statistics, but at the same time you give up yet another level of  
control. It's really a jungle out there ;-)

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
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Yeah, and not fulfilling my requirements. Price is not an issue, as I
already got a bluetooth-enabled mobile phone. And I really don't want to run
around onstage (or through the audience) with a computer keyboard in both
hands, I'd rather carry a small thingie in one hand.

And if that would work out as I described it, on to the next target: audio
transmission from the phone mike to the computer, thus allowing me to also
add audio "on the run". Can't do that with a keyboard...

> Rainer- You could just use a wireless keyboard. Maybe larger 
> than you would prefer, but zero learning curve or 
> programming, and very inexpensive. I'm not sure what the 

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Sounds good! We had a successful ninjam with Daryl Shawn a while back,
so definitely up for some more.

Could you translate "CW15 and CW16" into normal months & days?


cheers,
os.


On 31/03/07, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill  wrote:
> Ok, it has been quite some time since my last Ninjam stuff, and I do have
> fond memories (and recordings) of such sessions with a lot of people from
> here (thanks - you know who you are!), so here's the next round of fun:
>
> Anyone in for some fun of that specific kind in the near future? In my case,
> CW15 and CW16 will be off work, so I'll be able to adapt to transatlantic
> (-pacific) times without any problems!
>
> All the best,
>
>         Rainer
>
>


-- 
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Calendar week 15 and calendar week 16 - meaning 9th (or rather 6th
effectively) to 22nd of April.=20

In your case, the times wouldn't be that much of a problem due to the =
fact
that you're in GB, no?

Looking forward to doing some whacked-out stuff!

	Rainer

> -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: expertsleepers@googlemail.com=20
> [mailto:expertsleepers@googlemail.com] Im Auftrag von Os
> Gesendet: Samstag, 31. M=E4rz 2007 18:17
> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Betreff: Re: Ninjams anyone...
>=20
> Sounds good! We had a successful ninjam with Daryl Shawn a=20
> while back, so definitely up for some more.
>=20
> Could you translate "CW15 and CW16" into normal months & days?
>=20
>=20
> cheers,
> os.
>=20
>=20
> On 31/03/07, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill=20
>  wrote:
> > Ok, it has been quite some time since my last Ninjam stuff,=20
> and I do=20
> > have fond memories (and recordings) of such sessions with a lot of=20
> > people from here (thanks - you know who you are!), so=20
> here's the next round of fun:
> >
> > Anyone in for some fun of that specific kind in the near=20
> future? In my=20
> > case,
> > CW15 and CW16 will be off work, so I'll be able to adapt to=20
> > transatlantic
> > (-pacific) times without any problems!
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> >         Rainer
> >
> >
>=20
>=20
> --
> os@collective.co.uk
> http://www.collective.co.uk/
> http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband
>=20
>=20

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OK cool. Evening of 12th or 13th, or any time on the 14th (including
late, so as to coincide with US-based players) would be good for me.


cheers,
os.

On 31/03/07, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill  wrote:
> Calendar week 15 and calendar week 16 - meaning 9th (or rather 6th
> effectively) to 22nd of April.
>
> In your case, the times wouldn't be that much of a problem due to the fac=
t
> that you're in GB, no?
>
> Looking forward to doing some whacked-out stuff!
>
>         Rainer
>
> > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: expertsleepers@googlemail.com
> > [mailto:expertsleepers@googlemail.com] Im Auftrag von Os
> > Gesendet: Samstag, 31. M=E4rz 2007 18:17
> > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Betreff: Re: Ninjams anyone...
> >
> > Sounds good! We had a successful ninjam with Daryl Shawn a
> > while back, so definitely up for some more.
> >
> > Could you translate "CW15 and CW16" into normal months & days?
> >
> >
> > cheers,
> > os.
> >
> >
> > On 31/03/07, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill
> >  wrote:
> > > Ok, it has been quite some time since my last Ninjam stuff,
> > and I do
> > > have fond memories (and recordings) of such sessions with a lot of
> > > people from here (thanks - you know who you are!), so
> > here's the next round of fun:
> > >
> > > Anyone in for some fun of that specific kind in the near
> > future? In my
> > > case,
> > > CW15 and CW16 will be off work, so I'll be able to adapt to
> > > transatlantic
> > > (-pacific) times without any problems!
> > >
> > > All the best,
> > >
> > >         Rainer
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > os@collective.co.uk
> > http://www.collective.co.uk/
> > http://www.myspace.com/darkroomtheband
> >
> >
>
>


--=20
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On 18 mar 2007, at 23.28, bill bigrig wrote:

> Howdy,
>
>  If you possibly can getahold of timothy Donahue. He
> put out a video years ago playing a fretless "guitar
> harp" the most awesome solo performance I have ever
> seen. Try and get a hold of him. Fretless guitarist
> for over 20 years.I'm sure he'd be awealth of
> information.
> Rig

  Rig, you must be thinking of this video?
http://www.dominonight.com/Jim/td_nhktv_japan.mp4

He plays Norwegian Wood on Japanese television. Veeery inspiring  
performance! But it makes me a bit sad because you have to use a  
"dual" instrument, like his, to play that way; I mean with all those  
cool ritardandi and accelerandi going on under the melody. Sometimes  
I get bored with looping because the loopers stays the same tempo as  
you recorded the loops. Ok, you might use a Repeater with a tap tempo  
pedal, but I tried that too when I had a Repeater and it wasn't at  
all the same intuitive musical experience as being able to directly  
PLAY the tempo changes on an instrument. Yesterday I was listening  
through VAngelis' soundtrack themes (album: "Themes") and noticed  
that he does the same tricks with floating tempi almost all the time.  
That's easy for a guy like him that has learned two handed keyboard  
playing for decades ;-))  The best way to enjoy a floating tempo is  
still to play in real-time with a partner musician. Another thing in  
looping that sometimes bores me is that you have to build things up,  
as opposed to playing the full thing right away. The more you do solo  
looping the more you long for playing with a duo or a trio and the  
more you play with other musicians the more you long for those lonely  
building-up-the-loops journeys. Nothing is ever good enough!

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
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From: Jeffrey Collins 
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Per, 

Thanks for that video bro. Great stuff. I'd just like to know what he did to reate all that sustain from a fretless guitar. It didn't look like he used a sustainer, but he could have done like Michael Brook did by routing the signal from onr pickup into another to create the sustaining vibrations on the strings.

I just wish that when these guys used different types of instruments, they would make new music with them. If you wanna hear some awesome fretless guitar playing, you should hear Dan Stearns of Ma. He uses an aluminium fingerboard on his les paul and does serious micrtonal music. Charles Ives and Ornette Coleman on guitar is what he's been referred to as.

Cheers.

Jeffrey

Per Boysen  wrote: On 18 mar 2007, at 23.28, bill bigrig wrote:

> Howdy,
>
>  If you possibly can getahold of timothy Donahue. He
> put out a video years ago playing a fretless "guitar
> harp" the most awesome solo performance I have ever
> seen. Try and get a hold of him. Fretless guitarist
> for over 20 years.I'm sure he'd be awealth of
> information.
> Rig

  Rig, you must be thinking of this video?
http://www.dominonight.com/Jim/td_nhktv_japan.mp4

He plays Norwegian Wood on Japanese television. Veeery inspiring  
performance! But it makes me a bit sad because you have to use a  
"dual" instrument, like his, to play that way; I mean with all those  
cool ritardandi and accelerandi going on under the melody. Sometimes  
I get bored with looping because the loopers stays the same tempo as  
you recorded the loops. Ok, you might use a Repeater with a tap tempo  
pedal, but I tried that too when I had a Repeater and it wasn't at  
all the same intuitive musical experience as being able to directly  
PLAY the tempo changes on an instrument. Yesterday I was listening  
through VAngelis' soundtrack themes (album: "Themes") and noticed  
that he does the same tricks with floating tempi almost all the time.  
That's easy for a guy like him that has learned two handed keyboard  
playing for decades ;-))  The best way to enjoy a floating tempo is  
still to play in real-time with a partner musician. Another thing in  
looping that sometimes bores me is that you have to build things up,  
as opposed to playing the full thing right away. The more you do solo  
looping the more you long for playing with a duo or a trio and the  
more you play with other musicians the more you long for those lonely  
building-up-the-loops journeys. Nothing is ever good enough!

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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Per, 

    Thanks for that video bro. Great stuff. I'd just like to know what he did to reate all that sustain from a fretless guitar. It didn't look like he used a sustainer, but he could have done like Michael Brook did by routing the signal from onr pickup into another to create the sustaining vibrations on the strings.

    I just wish that when these guys used different types of instruments, they would make new music with them. If you wanna hear some awesome fretless guitar playing, you should hear Dan Stearns of Ma. He uses an aluminium fingerboard on his les paul and does serious micrtonal music. Charles Ives and Ornette Coleman on guitar is what he's been referred to as.

    Cheers.

    Jeffrey

    Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
     On 18 mar 2007, at 23.28, bill bigrig wrote:

    > Howdy,
    >
    >  If
 you possibly can getahold of timothy Donahue. He
    > put out a video years ago playing a fretless "guitar
    > harp" the most awesome solo performance I have ever
    > seen. Try and get a hold of him. Fretless guitarist
    > for over 20 years.I'm sure he'd be awealth of
    > information.
    > Rig

      Rig, you must be thinking of this video?
    http://www.dominonight.com/Jim/td_nhktv_japan.mp4

    He plays Norwegian Wood on Japanese television. Veeery inspiring  
    performance! But it makes me a bit sad because you have to use a  
    "dual" instrument, like his, to play that way; I mean with all those  
    cool ritardandi and accelerandi going on under the melody. Sometimes  
    I get bored with looping because the loopers stays the same tempo as  
    you recorded the loops. Ok, you might use a Repeater with a tap tempo  
    pedal, but I tried that too when I had a Repeater and it wasn't at  
    all the same intuitive musical experience as being
 able to directly  
    PLAY the tempo changes on an instrument. Yesterday I was listening  
    through VAngelis' soundtrack themes (album: "Themes") and noticed  
    that he does the same tricks with floating tempi almost all the time.  
    That's easy for a guy like him that has learned two handed keyboard  
    playing for decades ;-))  The best way to enjoy a floating tempo is  
    still to play in real-time with a partner musician. Another thing in  
    looping that sometimes bores me is that you have to build things up,  
    as opposed to playing the full thing right away. The more you do solo  
    looping the more you long for playing with a duo or a trio and the  
    more you play with other musicians the more you long for those lonely  
    building-up-the-loops journeys. Nothing is ever good enough!

    Greetings from Sweden

    Per Boysen
    www.boysen.se (Swedish)
    www.looproom.com (international)
    http://tinyurl.com/fauvm
 (podcast)
    http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (CC donationware music releases)



     


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Ah, thanks for that explanation Rainer, I had no idea what you were 
referring to...! I'm very much up for more sessions with yourself or a 
group of peeps (Darkroom is a blast!). My days are flexible, I can hop 
onto a Europe evening session.

Daryl Shawn
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> effectively) to 22nd of April. 
>   

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Hi Fabio - I just sent you 1-2 song links from each of my 7 CDs.   I'm glad 
you are doing this. :) Great idea.

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> Come on, people !
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> fabio
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> Nothing is ever good enough!
> 

NO!.....spring has sprung!.....it get's no better.....:).....many good points 
per.....i crave playing with other people but it never happens.....perhaps 
looping makes   one overly self-critical since there is no one else to 
blame.....how to keep the loop evolving is a good question.....also your point of 
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about.....but these are all 'winter thoughts", dark and brooding.....it's time to dig 
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    Nothing is ever good=20=
enough!
    


    

    
    NO!.....spring has sprung!.....it get's no better.....:).....many good po=
ints per.....i crave playing with other people but it never happens.....perh=
aps looping makes   one overly self-critical since there is no one else=
 to blame.....how to keep the loop evolving is a good question.....also your=
 point of "playing the full thing right away" sans buildup is something i of=
ten think about.....but these are all 'winter thoughts", dark and brooding..=
...it's time to dig in the dirt.....:)m
    

    

    

    
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From: bill bigrig 
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Howdy,

 Can't get the video to come up. But I don't think
it's the one because on "watching a movie" he did not
do any loopng. It was all live playing.
Rig


 
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