From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 1 05:42:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2E45D3BEE1; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 05:42:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0d0a01c745c3$c1fe5b80$3bb1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <296982.12662.qm@web33112.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: "TRANSITION" (scott hansen looping cd) // K. HARTUNG's "FRAGMENTS" Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:42:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0D07_01C74589.14D5CAE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 05:42:31 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0D07_01C74589.14D5CAE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Why, thank you, Scott. I'm listening to your CD now while I work, and = enjoying it. =20 Regarding the title...it's not what you think! Really! :) It all = started after I took a picture of a bunch of baby bottles, nipples, and = bottle feeding paraphernalia scattered in my kitchen sink (shortly = before my turn to wash them)....that was the birth of Fragments. I just = loved the way the morning sunlight reflected off the bottles. Did you = pay close attention to the cover? You'll see some bottles and nipples in = there. You and I seem to have this bizarre music connection around babies. = Remember our song on my looper's collaboration CD Xperimentus, "Dante's = Nursery" with the VST mangled track of my 2-month old twin daughter? = It's your tune, my friend...you have to complete the trilogy. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: scott hansen=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 4:58 PM Subject: re: "TRANSITION" (scott hansen looping cd) // K. HARTUNG's = "FRAGMENTS" michael K (nemoguitar)- big thanks on the nice plug on my latest cd, glad you enjoyed it.... if anyone is interested in hearing it, please send me an email to: scott.hansen@kirkwood.edu, and i can send you a copy..... should say a big thanks to Krispen H for trading his FRAGMENTS w/ me. some great weird stuff....acoustic, electric, percussion....some = amazing sounds that he created live. haunting stuff, crazy sounds, and pretty all in = one listen... i'm just bummed he stole my title idea for future project, oh well. happy looping, s--- -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. ------=_NextPart_000_0D07_01C74589.14D5CAE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Why, thank you, Scott. I'm listening to = your CD now=20 while I work, and enjoying it. 
 
Regarding the title...it's not what you = think! Really! :)  It all started after I took a picture = of a=20 bunch of baby bottles, nipples, and bottle feeding paraphernalia = scattered in my=20 kitchen sink (shortly before my turn to wash them)....that was the birth = of=20 Fragments. I just loved the way the morning sunlight reflected off the = bottles.=20 Did you pay close attention to the cover? You'll see some bottles and = nipples in=20 there.
 
You and I seem to have this bizarre = music=20 connection around babies. Remember our song on my looper's collaboration = CD=20 Xperimentus, "Dante's Nursery" with the VST mangled track of my = 2-month old=20 twin daughter?  It's your tune, my friend...you have to complete = the=20 trilogy.
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 scott=20 hansen
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, = 2007 4:58=20 PM
Subject: re: "TRANSITION" = (scott hansen=20 looping cd) // K. HARTUNG's "FRAGMENTS"

michael K (nemoguitar)-
big thanks on the nice plug on my latest cd, glad you enjoyed=20 it....
 
if anyone is interested in hearing it, please send me an email = to:
scott.hansen@kirkwood.edu, = and i can send you a copy.....
 
should say a big thanks to Krispen H for trading his = FRAGMENTS w/=20 me.
some great weird stuff....acoustic, electric, percussion....some = amazing=20 sounds
that he created live. haunting stuff, crazy sounds, and pretty = all in one=20 listen...
 
i'm just bummed he stole my title idea for future project, oh = well.
happy looping,
s---
 
 
 
 

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Try the Yahoo!=20 Mail Beta. ------=_NextPart_000_0D07_01C74589.14D5CAE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 1 05:45:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3B4323BEE8; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 05:45:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0d3701c745c4$229d9e10$3bb1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <000101c74582$3e718300$1001a8c0@succubus> Subject: Re: Imogen&Zoe Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:45:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 05:45:12 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, and his coffin sized rack weights about five freakin' tons...I remember lifting into Bill Walker's vehicle! He could have fit at least three stowaways in that thing. Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 2:53 PM Subject: AW: Imogen&Zoe >> refused to work, all was absolutely mind blowing. I never saw >> a performer with such a complex setup doing it all by >> herself. At least it didn't feel like there is a bunch of > > To this regard, you gotta see Miro Mantere (who performed at the > y2k6loopfest). His setup includes lots of acoustic instruments (some of > them > self-built) and loads of electronics. Check out the recording of the main > festival gig at y2k6loopfest.com - his strategy is "no synthesizers, no > samplers" btw - everything is played (with the sole exception of an > electric > bass guitar) acoustically. > > Rainer > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 1 09:07:47 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 788573BEE7; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 09:07:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=c1Do9scNNVIomkB6EWrRcJstQvdo4Na1KqnIUpglycGDUjRdDPGT9qeLDluUcfH0b9z7TicEyZSl50LOFdpQN9kYXcnJp1mCLGI0qJWRGpF1VQLw1eRQrSsolEhif/XwY/Vm2YQZksKW/tRocCCu4ogk2RvL+uutuxAj95Qg6WQ= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45C12A8A.1040502@mhorse.com> References: <45C12A8A.1040502@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4B59C8B0-8238-4785-9EBF-037E8C20B59C@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Virutal E-jamming (was: Re: ejamming) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 10:07:40 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 09:07:47 +0000 (UTC) Related: Another approach. Given the invincible latency on the net I think that Virtual E- jamming is as good, or even in some ways a better way of collaborating. It works as this: Musician A records something while visualizing musician B jamming along. In his playing A needs to respond to his vision of B, even though B isn't there. Then A sends this recording with snail mail to B. Musician B listens, not so much to the actual sound recorded as to the sound NOT recorded - the stuff left out by A. Then B records his response to A's recording and "the stuff left out" (i.e. A's vision of his absent jamming partner responding). I've tried this and it works marvelously! It may even be easier than jamming in the same time, because B's response doesn't have to be the same as A originally envisioned B to do. If B later comes up with playing something differently it is probable that A's mimicked, recorded, response to that will still be musically fitting. For group improvisation I have always been interested in playing "compositions" that do not deal with traditional ways of describing music, as in "notes", "chords" etc. You could in fact write a tune where you use different kinds of vegetables, or whatever, as "notes" are used in a normal charts. Anyway, the fascinating thing here is that interesting music comes out of it as long as everyone involved truly tries to musically interpret whatever he is given. And of course as long as the relations and movements of the symbols used has some sort of meaning. It's not the symbols themselves but the relations between used symbols that makes music when interpreted by humans. I think the instincts at work here are the answer to why Virtual E-jamming actually works so well. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) On 1 feb 2007, at 00.47, Daryl Shawn wrote: > Speaking as a very frequent Ninjam user, this is certainly > interesting but I'm somewhat skeptical of the article/marketing. > They put down Ninjam for its delay, yet this app also adds a delay. > And it says peer-to-peer, yet you need to buy a ($15/month) > subscription, so you're not avoiding their servers altogether. I > think Ninjam, with no need for cash to change hands and open source > code, has a more promising life (Os, for example, created a plug-in > on his own from the code making it much more useful for laptop peeps). > > I myself love this: > > *"In Sync. In Real Time.* Or in as close to real time as the laws > of physics allow." > > those pesky laws of physics... > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > >> wired story:> 0,72612-0.html?tw=rss.technology> >> site: > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 1 11:32:30 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 749323BEE1; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 11:32:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 06:30:15 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Listen to Afterglow and Galactic Travels To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <45C1CF47.1010705@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 11:32:30 +0000 (UTC) AFTERGLOW ON WMUH: http://soundscapes.us/afterglow ======================================================================= Afterglow airs from 8:00 am to 9:30 am every Thursday morning. Tune in for a delightful mix of eclectic musical genres including a healthy dose of Progressive Rock. Tune in at 91.7 FM or on the internet at: http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh GALACTIC TRAVELS ON WDIY: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt ======================================================================= Tonight at 11 pm on Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long Special Focus on Max Corbacho from Barcelona. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "The Resonant Memory of Earth" on Space for Music Records. For details, see the Special Focus page at: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#feb The Vinyl Starter will be from the LP "Structures from Silence" by Steve Roach on Fortuna Records and released in 1984. Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and on the internet. All times are EST / GMT-5. ======================================================================= Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click LISTEN or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm ======================================================================= Listen on-line to WMUH at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to: rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm ======================================================================= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 1 15:09:03 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 250AA3BEE0; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 15:09:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <45C0FB7D.6040403@addcom.de> References: <20070129211918.563853BEEE@arsenic.violacea.com> <002d01c7443e$4b23d890$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <45C0FB7D.6040403@addcom.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <4CB9CB8A-4993-44C6-9E87-CEB8C5A6319E@zoekeating.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Zoe Keating Subject: Re: Imogen&Zoe Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 15:08:51 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Server-Quench: 214005d1-b206-11db-8638-001185d377ca X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZeQQAe DQsWCyJDRAw5JxtD RxQEKB1+J10RWB5K d2pXKltcMEE0QVZe QzNJGEkABQEoDjsx dVkOMEtdY1U4Cld1 UkhJRUJTEQ9oCRYE BVAfWx1sdQVPZn9z ZFhjV3JEXkF4cFl9 DBJVFBsOJD0baGEe VEheOQFSdAsEfB5B alB6AHIQM2cHYGdh RgM5emBvZmUacHwM G1FQIQlNHk0CCAQx FVgjGDIgEEtLdSI+ RyAn X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:536/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 15:09:03 +0000 (UTC) thanks stefan! yes that blasted repeater. wouldn't get any sound at the inputs. we =20 took it apart, pressed the pins in and reloaded the OS. been fine for =20= the last couple shows. both immi's and my repeaters have been extremely badly behaved this =20 tour. one of hers wouldn't respond to any button presses, midi =20 commands or anything (something mine does sometimes too, but i can =20 turn off the power to fix it). you couldn't even load the OS and =20 restarting didn't help. peter toms recommended taking it apart and =20 that worked. CAN YOU HEAR US ELECTRIX?? immi's used her repeaters on letterman and =20= leno and is nominated for 2 grammys this year. PLEASE can't you find =20 it in your hearts to come out with MK2????!! sorry the sound was so bunk. we do actually have an engineer with us =20 who is usually quite amazing. don't know why it got so loud. we can't =20= tell from the stage! anyway. we're in bern today. it really is like a postcard! loop on, zoe On Jan 31, 2007, at 8:26 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Michael Peters wrote: >> What a great musician. I hope I can see her perform >> again sometimes, maybe on some looping festival. > > I can confirm this to the highest degree, I've seen both the night =20 > before in Berlin, even though Zo=EB's one repeater refused to work, =20= > all was absolutely mind blowing. I never saw a performer with such =20 > a complex setup doing it all by herself. At least it didn't feel =20 > like there is a bunch of technical geniuses somewhere backstage or =20 > at the desk (on the contrary, the house sound started loud and =20 > pretty good, but at the end it went more and more into bad =20 > distortion, the engineer from the house must have been totally =20 > deaf. I hope that Imogen will build up enough fans to be able to =20 > have her own sound engineer tour with her...) > > Stefan > > --=20 > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > --_____-----------|-------------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 1 15:53:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4756C3BEE6; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 15:53:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.129 IN todd.wayne@usa.net uadvg129.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID432LBaP2m3109X03 X-USANET-Auth: 165.212.8.29 AUTO todd.wayne@usa.net cmsweb27.cms.usa.net Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 09:53:18 -0600 From: "Todd Wayne" To: Subject: Re: Imogen&Zoe X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (CM.0402.7.54) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <700LBaP1s0392S27.1170345198@cmsweb27.cms.usa.net> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Z-USANET-MsgId: XID870LBaP2s0351X29 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 15:53:22 +0000 (UTC) This is mai= l from the woman who is touring with Immi in europe. Notice Ms Heap is no= minated for two Grammys. We need to go =3Don the grammy page and see what= for.


------ Original Message ------
Received: Th= u, 01 Feb 2007 09:09:18 AM CST
From: Zoe Keating <cello@zoek= eating.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Su= bject: Re: Imogen&Zoe


thanks stefan!

yes that = blasted repeater. wouldn't get any sound at the inputs. we
took it ap= art, pressed the pins in and reloaded the OS. been fine for
the last = couple shows.
both immi's and my repeaters have been extremely badly = behaved this
tour. one of hers wouldn't respond to any button presses= , midi
commands or anything (something mine does sometimes too, but i= can
turn off the power to fix it). you couldn't even load the OS and=
restarting didn't help. peter toms recommended taking it apart and <= BR>that worked.

CAN YOU HEAR US ELECTRIX?? immi's used her repeat= ers on letterman and
leno and is nominated for 2 grammys this year. P= LEASE can't you find
it in your hearts to come out with MK2????!!
sorry the sound was so bunk. we do actually have an engineer with us=
who is usually quite amazing. don't know why it got so loud. we can'= t
tell from the stage!

anyway. we're in bern today. it really= is like a postcard!

loop on, zoe

On Jan 31, 2007, at 8:2= 6 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote:

> Michael Peters wrote:
>>= ; What a great musician. I hope I can see her perform
>> again = sometimes, maybe on some looping festival.
>
> I can confir= m this to the highest degree, I've seen both the night
> before in= Berlin, even though Zo=EB's one repeater refused to work,
> all w= as absolutely mind blowing. I never saw a performer with such
> a = complex setup doing it all by herself. At least it didn't feel
> l= ike there is a bunch of technical geniuses somewhere backstage or
>= ; at the desk (on the contrary, the house sound started loud and
>= pretty good, but at the end it went more and more into bad
> dist= ortion, the engineer from the house must have been totally
> deaf.= I hope that Imogen will build up enough fans to be able to
> have= her own sound engineer tour with her...)
>
> Stefan
&g= t;
> --
> Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
> --____= _-----------|--------------
> --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()--------------
> ----------()--------www= =2Eccmix.com
>



From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 1 15:58:39 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F0943BEE0; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 15:58:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ao8CAE6dwUVKh6J6/2dsb2JhbACeaAEBAQE Message-ID: <008401c74619$eb5213e0$7aa2874a@c1503933a> From: "Mark Smart" To: References: <45C12A8A.1040502@mhorse.com> <4B59C8B0-8238-4785-9EBF-037E8C20B59C@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Virutal E-jamming (was: Re: ejamming) Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 09:58:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Resent-Message-ID: <-FZsG.A.ERH.u4gwFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 15:58:39 +0000 (UTC) Hmm...interesting idea. It would be cool to jam instantly with anyone around the globe, but this will never happen in exact real time because of the laws of physics, as they say. Even if the signal was travelling along the surface at the speed of light (which it is not even close to doing), there would be a 64 ms one-way trip time for people on opposite sides of the earth. I've wondered what ways there are around this. I read somewhere about people jamming, but intentionally playing 1 bar off from each other! I like this longer recording idea, maybe it could be applied to near-real-time. You could do it like looping. You record an entire loop then send the whole thing to the other musician a few seconds later, like a faster version of what you describe. There is some way to do this....sounds like fun Mark Smart http://www.marksmart.net/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Boysen" To: Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:07 AM Subject: Virutal E-jamming (was: Re: ejamming) > Related: Another approach. > > Given the invincible latency on the net I think that Virtual E- > jamming is as good, or even in some ways a better way of > collaborating. It works as this: Musician A records something while > visualizing musician B jamming along. In his playing A needs to > respond to his vision of B, even though B isn't there. Then A sends > this recording with snail mail to B. Musician B listens, not so much > to the actual sound recorded as to the sound NOT recorded - the stuff > left out by A. Then B records his response to A's recording and "the > stuff left out" (i.e. A's vision of his absent jamming partner > responding). > > I've tried this and it works marvelously! It may even be easier than > jamming in the same time, because B's response doesn't have to be the > same as A originally envisioned B to do. If B later comes up with > playing something differently it is probable that A's mimicked, > recorded, response to that will still be musically fitting. > > For group improvisation I have always been interested in playing > "compositions" that do not deal with traditional ways of describing > music, as in "notes", "chords" etc. You could in fact write a tune > where you use different kinds of vegetables, or whatever, as "notes" > are used in a normal charts. Anyway, the fascinating thing here is > that interesting music comes out of it as long as everyone involved > truly tries to musically interpret whatever he is given. And of > course as long as the relations and movements of the symbols used has > some sort of meaning. It's not the symbols themselves but the > relations between used symbols that makes music when interpreted by > humans. I think the instincts at work here are the answer to why > Virtual E-jamming actually works so well. > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) > > > > > On 1 feb 2007, at 00.47, Daryl Shawn wrote: > > > Speaking as a very frequent Ninjam user, this is certainly > > interesting but I'm somewhat skeptical of the article/marketing. > > They put down Ninjam for its delay, yet this app also adds a delay. > > And it says peer-to-peer, yet you need to buy a ($15/month) > > subscription, so you're not avoiding their servers altogether. I > > think Ninjam, with no need for cash to change hands and open source > > code, has a more promising life (Os, for example, created a plug-in > > on his own from the code making it much more useful for laptop peeps). > > > > I myself love this: > > > > *"In Sync. In Real Time.* Or in as close to real time as the laws > > of physics allow." > > > > those pesky laws of physics... > > > > Daryl Shawn > > www.swanwelder.com > > > >> wired story: >> 0,72612-0.html?tw=rss.technology> > >> site: > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 1 16:14:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 971663BEC7; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:14:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: RE: Imogen&Zoe Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:14:16 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <700LBaP1s0392S27.1170345198@cmsweb27.cms.usa.net> Thread-Index: AcdGGSV2E8HsDvp2RseXaurDAkG6lAAAn6og X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Message-Id: <20070201161426.DWYD1343.fed1rmmtao104.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:14:31 +0000 (UTC) My dream of good looking loopers is coming true! http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200208/msg01038.html Somebody buy these gals Looperlatives. G PS Amy's cute too ________________________________________ From: Todd Wayne [mailto:todd.wayne@usa.net] This is mail from the woman who is touring with Immi in europe. Notice Ms Heap is nominated for two Grammys. We need to go =on the grammy page and see what for. ------ Original Message ------ Received: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 09:09:18 AM CST From: Zoe Keating To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Imogen&Zoe CAN YOU HEAR US ELECTRIX?? immi's used her repeaters on letterman and leno and is nominated for 2 grammys this year. PLEASE can't you find it in your hearts to come out with MK2????!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 1 16:23:19 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54E143BEF4; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:23:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <20070201161426.DWYD1343.fed1rmmtao104.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> References: <20070201161426.DWYD1343.fed1rmmtao104.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <57B35106-0FD1-4324-B96F-2721B39F3D49@zoekeating.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Zoe Keating Subject: Re: Imogen&Zoe Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:23:15 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Server-Quench: 85c6392a-b210-11db-8638-001185d377ca X-AuthRoute: OCdyZQ4WAlZeQQAe DQsWCyJDRAw5JxtD RxQEKB1+J10RWB5K d2pXKltcMEE0QVZe QzNJGEkABQEoDjsx dVkOMEtdY1U4Cld1 UkhJRUJTEg9qAhYA AVAfWx1sdQVPZn9z ZFhjV3JEXkF4cFl9 DBJVFBp4EjI+aGYc VEleOQJRdQUEdhoW bFN2ViIQM2cGZmdh RgM5emBvZmUacHwM G1FQIQlNHk0CCAQx FVgjGDIgEEtLdSI+ RyAn X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633135363331.squirrel.dmpriest.net.uk:536/Kp X-Report-SPAM: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:23:19 +0000 (UTC) ha ha!! got a looperlative! haven't quite taken to it yet. more practice needed i expect.... On Feb 1, 2007, at 4:14 PM, Gary Lehmann wrote: > My dream of good looking loopers is coming true! > http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200208/msg01038.html > > Somebody buy these gals Looperlatives. > G > PS Amy's cute too > ________________________________________ > From: Todd Wayne [mailto:todd.wayne@usa.net] > > This is mail from the woman who is touring with Immi in europe. > Notice Ms > Heap is nominated for two Grammys. We need to go =on the grammy > page and see > what for. > > > ------ Original Message ------ > Received: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 09:09:18 AM CST > From: Zoe Keating > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Imogen&Zoe > > > > > CAN YOU HEAR US ELECTRIX?? immi's used her repeaters on letterman and > leno and is nominated for 2 grammys this year. PLEASE can't you find > it in your hearts to come out with MK2????!! > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 1 16:23:37 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 573CC3BF0E; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:23:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <043201c7461d$4f2a8110$e701a8c0@pcfabio> From: "Fabio Anile" To: References: <20070129211918.563853BEEE@arsenic.violacea.com> <002d01c7443e$4b23d890$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <45C0FB7D.6040403@addcom.de> <4CB9CB8A-4993-44C6-9E87-CEB8C5A6319E@zoekeating.com> Subject: Re: Imogen&Zoe Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:23:29 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2007 16:23:30.0120 (UTC) FILETIME=[4F43FC80:01C7461D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:23:37 +0000 (UTC) Your tour doesn't include Rome.....so.... i'm enjoining this video (and music obviously) of a live looping performance by Imogen: just voice, hands clapping and repeater http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSIbfzK2spg Highly raccomended !!! About the Repeater MK2, i've loose my faith about its outcoming and about the company So, why dont' you try Mobius...? In any case, good luck for the other tour dates and remember: next time, come and play in Rome !!! fabio http://xoomer.alice.it/eterogeneo/ www.myspace.com/eterogeneo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zoe Keating" To: Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 4:08 PM Subject: Re: Imogen&Zoe thanks stefan! yes that blasted repeater. wouldn't get any sound at the inputs. we took it apart, pressed the pins in and reloaded the OS. been fine for the last couple shows. both immi's and my repeaters have been extremely badly behaved this tour. one of hers wouldn't respond to any button presses, midi commands or anything (something mine does sometimes too, but i can turn off the power to fix it). you couldn't even load the OS and restarting didn't help. peter toms recommended taking it apart and that worked. CAN YOU HEAR US ELECTRIX?? immi's used her repeaters on letterman and leno and is nominated for 2 grammys this year. PLEASE can't you find it in your hearts to come out with MK2????!! sorry the sound was so bunk. we do actually have an engineer with us who is usually quite amazing. don't know why it got so loud. we can't tell from the stage! anyway. we're in bern today. it really is like a postcard! loop on, zoe On Jan 31, 2007, at 8:26 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > Michael Peters wrote: >> What a great musician. I hope I can see her perform >> again sometimes, maybe on some looping festival. > > I can confirm this to the highest degree, I've seen both the night before > in Berlin, even though Zoë's one repeater refused to work, all was > absolutely mind blowing. I never saw a performer with such a complex > setup doing it all by herself. At least it didn't feel like there is a > bunch of technical geniuses somewhere backstage or at the desk (on the > contrary, the house sound started loud and pretty good, but at the end it > went more and more into bad distortion, the engineer from the house must > have been totally deaf. I hope that Imogen will build up enough fans to > be able to have her own sound engineer tour with her...) > > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > --_____-----------|-------------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.18/662 - Release Date: 31/01/2007 15.16 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 1 16:30:18 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 65CDC3BEE8; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:30:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: RE: Imogen&Zoe Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:30:09 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <57B35106-0FD1-4324-B96F-2721B39F3D49@zoekeating.com> Thread-Index: AcdGHVBiM4S4/XInSyWzpO7UlCxeEwAAL2kg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Message-Id: <20070201163013.EINC1349.fed1rmmtao103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo02.cox.net> Resent-Message-ID: <-g78rD.A.o3.ZWhwFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:30:18 +0000 (UTC) You go, girl! The whole looping world is counting on you--no pressure . . . Can someone please convince my wife that I need a looperlative? G -----Original Message----- From: Zoe Keating [mailto:cello@zoekeating.com] Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:23 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Imogen&Zoe ha ha!! got a looperlative! haven't quite taken to it yet. more practice needed i expect.... On Feb 1, 2007, at 4:14 PM, Gary Lehmann wrote: > My dream of good looking loopers is coming true! > http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200208/msg01038.html > > Somebody buy these gals Looperlatives. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 1 16:41:13 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 076FC3BF05; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:41:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.13,268,1167638400"; d="scan'208,217"; a="175845623:sNHT156883188" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C7461F.BC517164" Subject: "best" s/w looper Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:40:51 -0800 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20070201162337.A99D23BF0F@arsenic.violacea.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: "best" s/w looper thread-index: AcdGHXIw55MxJl+vQuC1ccWMwiSfHAAAd9Mw From: "Veda, Qua" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2007 16:40:52.0034 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC4B7220:01C7461F] Resent-Message-ID: <-uNYf.A.raB.oghwFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 16:41:12 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7461F.BC517164 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, =20 It seems that Mobius has a lot of support from this group, and may be considered the overall best s/w looper. In terms of ease-of-use, quality, flexibility, features, which are the other serious contenders? =20 -Q =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7461F.BC517164 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "best" s/w looper

Hi,   =
It seems that = Mobius  has a lot of support from this group,  and may be = considered the overall best s/w looper.
In terms of = ease-of-use, quality, flexibility, features,  which are the other = serious contenders? 

-Q    

------_=_NextPart_001_01C7461F.BC517164-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 1 17:11:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55D843BEF5; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:11:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 12:11:25 -0500 From: rick To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "best" s/w looper Message-ID: <20070201171125.GA363@SillyBoy.zoominternet.net> References: <20070201162337.A99D23BF0F@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) X-Spam-Score: 0.00 () [Tag at 15.00] X-CanItPRO-Stream: outgoing X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 24.154.1.26 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:11:32 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Feb 01, 2007 at 08:40:51AM -0800, Veda, Qua wrote: > > Hi, > It seems that Mobius has a lot of support from this group, and may be > considered the overall best s/w looper. > In terms of ease-of-use, quality, flexibility, features, which are the > other serious contenders? > > -Q Ableton Live I would think be next. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 1 17:47:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 39FB03BEEC; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:47:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <0dcf01c74629$1608afe0$3bb1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: Subject: Re: "best" s/w looper Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 10:47:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0DCC_01C745EE.68F26EC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:47:52 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0DCC_01C745EE.68F26EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "best" s/w looperHere is a start, some not really contenders, but some = good ones: http://www.krispenhartung.com/software-looping.htm Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Veda, Qua=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 9:40 AM Subject: "best" s/w looper Hi, =20 It seems that Mobius has a lot of support from this group, and may = be considered the overall best s/w looper.=20 In terms of ease-of-use, quality, flexibility, features, which are = the other serious contenders? =20 -Q =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0DCC_01C745EE.68F26EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "best" s/w looper
Here is a start, some not really = contenders, but=20 some good ones:
 
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Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Veda, = Qua=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Thursday, February 01, = 2007 9:40=20 AM
Subject: "best" s/w = looper


Hi,   =
It seems that Mobius  has a = lot of=20 support from this group,  and may be considered the overall best = s/w=20 looper.
In = terms of=20 ease-of-use, quality, flexibility, features,  which are the other = serious=20 contenders? 

-Q    =20

------=_NextPart_000_0DCC_01C745EE.68F26EC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 1 18:03:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD8723BEF7; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 18:03:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" References: <4CB9CB8A-4993-44C6-9E87-CEB8C5A6319E@zoekeating.com> Subject: RE: Imogen&Zoe Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 19:03:24 +0100 Message-ID: <003501c7462b$445ca9d0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4CB9CB8A-4993-44C6-9E87-CEB8C5A6319E@zoekeating.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcdGHgalQl88ShB0SVmGeljDNn4elwADNi4A Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 18:03:29 +0000 (UTC) hi Zoe, > sorry the sound was so bunk. we do actually have an engineer with us > who is usually quite amazing. don't know why it got so loud. the sound in Cologne was quite clear and good :-) but yes, it was quite loud at times (I was directly at the stage between the PA towers so it was bearable for me). Not during the more quiet pieces but Imogen's "rock" piece really shook the house :-) -Michael www.michaelpeters.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 1 18:15:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4789D3BEEC; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 18:15:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-UNTD-OriginStamp: wE15mMxaCGdImpQmRPxb5A2u5mzM0cCs12DitueN4yBV3uucLQXu2A== X-Originating-IP: [206.193.127.2] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "Weg" Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:59:23 GMT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "TRANSITION" (scott hansen looping cd) // K. HARTUNG's "FRAGMENTS" X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative;boundary="--__JWM__J3e18.6377S.6160M" Message-Id: <20070201.095935.760.1300983@webmail60.nyc.untd.com> X-ContentStamp: 1:1:487584366 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.141.27.200|webmail60.nyc.untd.com|webmail60.nyc.untd.com|theweg@netzero.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 18:15:15 +0000 (UTC) ----__JWM__J3e18.6377S.6160M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain I listened to this last night, Thanks Krispen! some good sounds in ther= e! I am in the process of setting up my computer to record and found in= spiration in many of your sounds! My only wish is for more time to do t= he things I love! = Weg ----__JWM__J3e18.6377S.6160M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/html

I listened to this last night, Thanks Krispen!  some good = sounds in there!  I am in the process of setting up my computer to = record and found inspiration in many of your sounds!  My only wish = is for more time to do the things I love!

 

Weg

----__JWM__J3e18.6377S.6160M-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 1 18:32:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5FB193BEF3; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 18:32:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45C24069.7000104@imt.net> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 11:32:57 -0800 From: Bob Weigel User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "TRANSITION" (scott hansen looping cd) // K. HARTUNG's "FRAGMENTS" References: <20070201.095935.760.1300983@webmail60.nyc.untd.com> In-Reply-To: <20070201.095935.760.1300983@webmail60.nyc.untd.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 18:32:56 +0000 (UTC) I need to get a copy of this..been..too...busy! I fixed and sold a keyboard to Scott that he might be using on some of it! :-) Great guy to deal with. -Bob Weg wrote: > I listened to this last night, Thanks Krispen! some good sounds in > there! I am in the process of setting up my computer to record and > found inspiration in many of your sounds! My only wish is for more > time to do the things I love! > > > > Weg > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 1 19:06:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AEEF3BEEC; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 19:06:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.94) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 1 Feb 2007 19:06:20 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Yon P Mercury" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Stefan-Tiedje@addcom.de Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 03:06:20 +0800 Subject: Re: ANN: Freewheeling Live Looper 0.5.5 Release (Mac OS X / Linux) X-Originating-Ip: 24.82.80.53 X-Originating-Server: ws5-9.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20070201190620.249DF13EC0@ws5-9.us4.outblaze.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 19:06:23 +0000 (UTC) Dear Stefan, Per: > The new version 0.5.5 doesn't open on my Mac PPC OS X 10.4.2 (Its a > short flash and it seems to quit immediately without notice), whereas > the 0.5.3 opens fine btw... ... > INIT: Executing: cp /Applications/Musikprogramme/ Live > Performance/FreeWheeling/FreeWheeling.app/Contents/Resources/.fweelin.rc > /Users/ST/.fweelin > cp: > Performance/FreeWheeling/FreeWheeling.app/Contents/Resources/.fweelin.rc: > No such file or directory > cp: Live: No such file or directory > cp: /Applications/Musikprogramme/ is a directory (not copied). The problem is very simple. Freewheeling is trying to copy a file from with= in the application bundle and it is getting befuddled by the spaces in the = filenames. It's an oversight on my part. I will fix it shortly. For now, th= e quick fix is to copy the Freewheeling application to a folder where there= are no spaces in the complete name-- for example, just '/Applications'. St= art from this folder, and you should have no problem. ... > Since Stefan is reporting an issue I'd like to add some more info=20 > to my earlier post. The machine for which I reported that=20 > Freewheeling 0.5.5 is working fine is a Dual G5 with OS 10.4.8.=20 > What you could do, Stefan, is to update your system to see if it=20 > has an effect? Could it really be that Freewheeling doesn't run on=20 > PPC processors? I have not yet tried to run Freewheeling on my PPC=20 > powerbook, but I will do in about a week, since that's my gig=20 > machine. Freewheeling is a universal binary app, so it should run on both platforms.= I don't have a PPC Mac to test, but I'm receiving reports that it works. All the Best, -Mercury =3D Save on Long Distance & Local Calling Live in Canada? Save on calling. Use Vonage Canada to save on local, long d= istance and overseas phone calls. International rates from 4 cents a minute= . Sign up today. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=3D74c6fef87fa9c5eb01919= 4a92b7dfe45 --=20 Powered By Outblaze From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 1 19:21:15 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C7F933BEE4; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 19:21:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C74636.24B4750F" Subject: Guitar to Miscellaneous Music boxes Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 14:21:16 -0500 Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Guitar to Miscellaneous Music boxes Thread-Index: Acb8j3cdzlbaHpF9Q4+WvmTKpjNgqBJpas/g From: "Dean, Hal " To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Feb 2007 19:21:16.0205 (UTC) FILETIME=[24BF65D0:01C74636] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 19:21:15 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C74636.24B4750F Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Slightly OT but many of you play guitar and some people are experimenting with new ways to make sound to feed loopers. =20 I've been thinking about starting to use a RMC fanout box to split strings into separate signal paths. It occurred to me it might be really interesting to feed each signal to a different small environment, which would resonate and alter the sound. Say, string 1 to a can with a few small bells, string 2 to a metal plate in a box, strings 3 and 4 to a long tube with a flared end, strings 5 and 6 to a 3 ft. high empty water bottle. Each fed by a small speaker, each miked. =20 Surely others have done this. Anyone seen something similar? =20 Thoughts? =20 Hal Dean =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C74636.24B4750F Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
Slightly OT but many of you play guitar and = some people=20 are experimenting with new ways to make sound to feed=20 loopers.
 
I've=20 been thinking about starting to use a RMC fanout box to split strings = into=20 separate signal paths. It occurred to me it might be really interesting = to feed=20 each signal to a different small environment, which would resonate and = alter the=20 sound. Say, string 1 to a can with a few small bells, string 2 to = a metal=20 plate in a box, strings 3 and 4 to a long tube with a flared = end, strings 5=20 and  6 to a 3 ft. high empty water bottle. Each fed by a small = speaker, each miked.
 
Surely others have done this. Anyone seen something=20 similar?
 
Thoughts?
 
Hal Dean
 
------_=_NextPart_001_01C74636.24B4750F-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 1 19:56:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5EDA3BEEE; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 19:56:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Originating-IP: [216.113.128.239] X-Identified-User: {864:box76.bluehost.com:kevinkis:kevinkissinger.com} {sentby:webmail from 216.113.128.239} Message-ID: <20070201135644.0qiwpfq6o8gkokcs@69.89.21.76> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 13:56:44 -0600 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "best" s/w looper References: <0dcf01c74629$1608afe0$3bb1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: <0dcf01c74629$1608afe0$3bb1ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.3) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 19:56:46 +0000 (UTC) Quoting Krispen Hartung : > "best" s/w looperHere is a start, some not really contenders, but > some good ones: > > http://www.krispenhartung.com/software-looping.htm > > Kris Kris, Great link! Very convenient to have descriptions of all this looping software in one place. Thank you. -- Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 1 22:34:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3CBA43BEE4; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 22:34:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GSP91RT0pP+82rEsnyC9jqNa1098HkfqPiA0+qBmoLaUz4QXqytFWM8nEj0/hAa6qXiP25TiBbraxsKwmsx1cq3JEDMIUotSohqNZR/X7t6sWUzRMjnrAs0TJBPrs4rv0RB8NiNS8G83oisFR8eotPhw4eqYwJZv7Bunio4v9I0= ; Message-ID: <20070201223407.77821.qmail@web32713.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: uzTDwloVM1mD781Nz8cXWgb5dO6WV4rNsZ0PZ4cr4QigVlAwjKNX4Ab_CkhBqFmvWw-- Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 14:34:07 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: guitar to misc. To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 22:34:09 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, IMMEDIATLY go online and buy a copy of "Handmade Electronic Music" by Nicholas Collins. Your ideas are JUST THE BEGINNIG!!!!! BWAA-HA-HA-HA.. Rig ____________________________________________________________________________________ Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Feb 1 22:38:11 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10EF73BEF4; Thu, 1 Feb 2007 22:38:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=TZCKorVHl///MbjQMVTDB2/oh/xO9y16vDxHNkNzl2AeOhP10DAcye8GOkrOD26DLfWO4m4aUF4YW/LWOgN7oMjqKDpruaqMmyOOrJvOE+Y5nLzjjapcx54VrgoauUco+gbx6/RBuXJOre6Q+cxXxv7z2DnmNyDyS/kwQHj+N3o=; X-YMail-OSG: cSUby1AVM1nVwbRAgBQ5nnKF57g3KgBIKYIOy8GY0gBIH2YmnyO6uIf9VSkZNgzL0KUEGPL7_aehFQA8_ZsOnf3XK9QUWe5qF683CM7k44FKXC0sO64- Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 14:38:09 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: guitars to misc. To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <596617.85977.qm@web32707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 22:38:11 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, It's stuff like this, and the book "Electronic Music Circuits" by Barry Klien that have me starting to construct a 96 or 64 stage analog sequencer. Rig ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 2 00:31:59 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC1DA3BEDB; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 00:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45C2867C.7070705@adelphia.net> Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2007 19:31:56 -0500 From: Brian Good User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Macintosh/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ejamming References: <45C12A8A.1040502@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: <45C12A8A.1040502@mhorse.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 00:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Daryl Shawn wrote: > Speaking as a very frequent Ninjam user, this is certainly interesting > but I'm somewhat skeptical of the article/marketing. They put down > Ninjam for its delay, yet this app also adds a delay. And it says > peer-to-peer, yet you need to buy a ($15/month) subscription, so you're > not avoiding their servers altogether. I think Ninjam, with no need for > cash to change hands and open source code, has a more promising life > (Os, for example, created a plug-in on his own from the code making it > much more useful for laptop peeps). And this is marvelous: "you hear your instrument when you receive the notes played by the other musicians in your jam." How *do* they manage to keep the sounds from my saxes from reaching my ears until the remote contributions arrive? Sounds like Nobel-level work for sure. Oh, wait. This is MIDI-only; no audio. Read the instrument requirements. Even better, it requires General MIDI. So all of you who have spent years or decades developing a unique tonal palette...surprise! You've been mapped to whatever GM instruments your bandmates are using. Think I'll give this one a pass. > I myself love this: > > *"In Sync. In Real Time.* Or in as close to real time as the laws of > physics allow." > > those pesky laws of physics... "Damn you, causality! Damn you!" Brian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 2 01:13:45 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id EBA713BEE7; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 01:13:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <00bc01c74667$61b1b340$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: Re: Imogen&Zoe Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 17:13:43 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 01:13:44 +0000 (UTC) Krispen wrote about Miro's rack case: "Yeah, and his coffin sized rack weights about five freakin' tons...I remember lifting into Bill Walker's vehicle! He could have fit at least three stowaways in that thing." I should say that Miro's incredibly moving set more than made up for the hassle of getting his gear around. It was really beautiful and we were incredibly priviliged to have him come all the way from Finland to play. That acknowledgement being said and done: I was so unprepared for the size of that monstrous case that I tore the hell out of the back of my dad's SUV trying to get it in the last time. I was so afraid to tell Dad that I had damaged his car and was sure he was going to be livid with me. He astonished me by saying, "Ahhh, Rick, this would be too costly to repair and noone sees the interior of the back of this car anyway, don't worry about it at all. Let's just leave it." It was such a stressful week that I almost started crying when he forgave it so effortlessly, but that's the kind of man he was. Not many know but generously supplied transportation for every single past live looping festival............letting me save money by letting me rent a cheesy cheap assed rental car and then allowing me to trade it for his beautiful big SUV for a week and a half so I could get everyone and their gear to the airport and back those many times. I'm sure going to miss him and his amazing generosity and support for all of us. Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 2 01:15:27 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5D1883BEE7; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 01:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-OB-Received: from unknown (205.158.62.94) by wfilter.us4.outblaze.com; 2 Feb 2007 01:15:24 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Yon P Mercury" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Stefan-Tiedje@addcom.de Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 09:15:23 +0800 Subject: Re: ANN: Freewheeling Live Looper 0.5.5 Release (Mac OS X / Linux) X-Originating-Ip: 24.82.80.53 X-Originating-Server: ws5-9.us4.outblaze.com Message-Id: <20070202011524.2C27613EC0@ws5-9.us4.outblaze.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 01:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Dear Stefan, The install issue you were having (below) is now fixed. Please download the new DMG from the website: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3D127660&package_id= =3D139785 *** Also, I uploaded some new mixes and sample packs from my sessions with Free= wheeling.=20 Folks can check them out at: http://ccmixter.net/media/people/jpmercury There's also some improvised music made in Freewheeling on my music blog @ http://people.tribe.net/jpmercury Cheers, -Mercury > INIT: Executing: cp /Applications/Musikprogramme/ Live > Performance/FreeWheeling/FreeWheeling.app/Contents/Resources/.fweelin.rc > /Users/ST/.fweelin > cp: > Performance/FreeWheeling/FreeWheeling.app/Contents/Resources/.fweelin.rc: > No such file or directory > cp: Live: No such file or directory > cp: /Applications/Musikprogramme/ is a directory (not copied). > Reading new config... > INIT: ERROR: Config in install dir is not up to date! > Did you run 'make install'? > jack main caught signal 3 > no message buffer overruns =3D Save on Long Distance & Local Calling Live in Canada? Save on calling. Use Vonage Canada to save on local, long d= istance and overseas phone calls. International rates from 4 cents a minute= . Sign up today. http://a8-asy.a8ww.net/a8-ads/adftrclick?redirectid=3D6dbfb18501e9ec6427f51= 68aff61b713 --=20 Powered By Outblaze From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 2 06:13:12 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3489C3BEE1; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:13:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1170348565.45c21a15c8fff@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 10:49:25 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Virutal E-jamming (was: Re: ejamming) References: <45C12A8A.1040502@mhorse.com> <4B59C8B0-8238-4785-9EBF-037E8C20B59C@gmail.com> <008401c74619$eb5213e0$7aa2874a@c1503933a> In-Reply-To: <008401c74619$eb5213e0$7aa2874a@c1503933a> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 71.198.6.5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 06:13:12 +0000 (UTC) Mark, You've pretty much described what NINJAM does.. :) peace -cpr Quoting Mark Smart : > Hmm...interesting idea. It would be cool to jam instantly with anyone around > the > globe, but this will never happen in exact real time because of the laws of > physics, as they say. Even if the signal was travelling along the surface at > the > speed of light (which it is not even close to doing), there would be a 64 ms > one-way trip time for people on opposite sides of the earth. > > I've wondered what ways there are around this. I read somewhere about people > jamming, but intentionally playing 1 bar off from each other! I like this > longer > recording idea, maybe it could be applied to near-real-time. You could do it > like looping. You record an entire loop then send the whole thing to the > other > musician a few seconds later, like a faster version of what you describe. > There > is some way to do this....sounds like fun > > Mark Smart > http://www.marksmart.net/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Per Boysen" > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 3:07 AM > Subject: Virutal E-jamming (was: Re: ejamming) > > > > Related: Another approach. > > > > Given the invincible latency on the net I think that Virtual E- > > jamming is as good, or even in some ways a better way of > > collaborating. It works as this: Musician A records something while > > visualizing musician B jamming along. In his playing A needs to > > respond to his vision of B, even though B isn't there. Then A sends > > this recording with snail mail to B. Musician B listens, not so much > > to the actual sound recorded as to the sound NOT recorded - the stuff > > left out by A. Then B records his response to A's recording and "the > > stuff left out" (i.e. A's vision of his absent jamming partner > > responding). > > > > I've tried this and it works marvelously! It may even be easier than > > jamming in the same time, because B's response doesn't have to be the > > same as A originally envisioned B to do. If B later comes up with > > playing something differently it is probable that A's mimicked, > > recorded, response to that will still be musically fitting. > > > > For group improvisation I have always been interested in playing > > "compositions" that do not deal with traditional ways of describing > > music, as in "notes", "chords" etc. You could in fact write a tune > > where you use different kinds of vegetables, or whatever, as "notes" > > are used in a normal charts. Anyway, the fascinating thing here is > > that interesting music comes out of it as long as everyone involved > > truly tries to musically interpret whatever he is given. And of > > course as long as the relations and movements of the symbols used has > > some sort of meaning. It's not the symbols themselves but the > > relations between used symbols that makes music when interpreted by > > humans. I think the instincts at work here are the answer to why > > Virtual E-jamming actually works so well. > > > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > > www.looproom.com (international) > > http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release) > > > > > > > > > > On 1 feb 2007, at 00.47, Daryl Shawn wrote: > > > > > Speaking as a very frequent Ninjam user, this is certainly > > > interesting but I'm somewhat skeptical of the article/marketing. > > > They put down Ninjam for its delay, yet this app also adds a delay. > > > And it says peer-to-peer, yet you need to buy a ($15/month) > > > subscription, so you're not avoiding their servers altogether. I > > > think Ninjam, with no need for cash to change hands and open source > > > code, has a more promising life (Os, for example, created a plug-in > > > on his own from the code making it much more useful for laptop peeps). > > > > > > I myself love this: > > > > > > *"In Sync. In Real Time.* Or in as close to real time as the laws > > > of physics allow." > > > > > > those pesky laws of physics... > > > > > > Daryl Shawn > > > www.swanwelder.com > > > > > >> wired story: > >> 0,72612-0.html?tw=rss.technology> > > >> site: > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 2 13:00:32 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 273303BECC; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 14:00:29 +0100 From: "Buzap Buzap" In-Reply-To: <00f501c73ae2$61733ab0$6501a8c0@embryo> Message-ID: <20070202130029.266590@gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <55e79c0d0701021739t15f7cd66if9fa9aa7bcc85aa@mail.gmail.com> <55e79c0d0701030712i55b1036ah31731257b278288e@mail.gmail.com> <004a01c72f67$d7407090$6501a8c0@embryo> <20070118090415.189680@gmx.net> <00f501c73ae2$61733ab0$6501a8c0@embryo> Subject: RC50 delicate footwork (was MIXED MODE) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Authenticated: #33233833 X-Flags: 0001 X-Mailer: WWW-Mail 6100 (Global Message Exchange) X-Priority: 3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <348QPB.A.zjG.vXzwFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:00:32 +0000 (UTC) Hi Randolf > thanks for the great workaround idea! > would be very interested to learn more from you how you execute your > "delicate footwork" technique to get around the simulated mix mode. :) Sure. The idea is to be in MULTI MODE but still switch between PHRASE1/2 as if you would be in SINGLE MODE. So, i.e. PHRASE3 plays ryhthm and you switch between PHRASE1/2 just like between song parts A/B on a Boomerang. First of all, I didn't get the Boss/Roland foot switches but others (I believe Fatar) that have a softer/faster touch. I guess it is hard to press down two Boss pedals almost at the same time. Basically, you need 2 footswitches, where you assign PHRASE1/2 START/STOP. Then, you need to basically practice the "delicate footswitching" just like any other instrument you would practice. Let's say you play PHRASE1. So when you press both pedals at the same time, tehoretically PHRASE1 stops and PHRASE2 starts (and vice versa). Of course, in practical terms, you mostly get a mess. So what I do is this: (while PHRASE1 is playing), my foot makes a "sideways rolling" movement, first touching PHRASE2 pedal (now also PHRASE2 starts playing), then with very very slight delay touches the PHRASE1 pedal (PHRASE1 stops). It really took me several evenings of praticing for timing and accuracy. (Last thing you want to have on a gig is messing up your phrases or timing.) First, it is frustrating, but definitely worth it. Because then you can do sweet things like multiply, bouncing and so on. It really brings the RC-50 to another level!! Have fun trying Buzap -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 2 13:06:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 494793BEDD; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:06:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 08:04:37 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Monthly Top 20 Report for January, 2007 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <45C336E5.3090702@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:06:23 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/top20jan.html WDIY 88.1 FM "Galactic Travels" Top 20 for January, 2007. Shows #510 to #513; 4-January-2007 to 25-January-2007 Reported in non-ranked, alphanumeric order. Compiled by Bill Fox website: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL =========================================================== Ben Neill - Green Machine - Astralwerks Ben Neill - Triptycal - Antilles Copal River - Copal River - Blue Water Frank Van Bogaert - Nomads - Groove Franziska Baumann - Eternal Ice Melts - Soleilmoon Ian Boddy - Elemental - DiN John Lyell - Dimensions - none Klaus Schulze - Angst - Revisited Klaus Schulze - Cyborg disc 1 - Revisited Klaus Schulze - Cyborg disc 2 - Revisited Klaus Schulze - Irrlicht - Revisited Lustmord - The Place Where the Black Stars Hang - Soleilmoon Mark Jenkins - This Island Earth - Ricochet Dream/AMP Numina - Sanctuary of Dreams - Hypnos Ololiuqui - Other Side of Odra - Ricochet Dream Redshift - Redshift Wild 2 - Distant Sun Redshift - Toll - Distant Sun Rudy Adrian - MoonWater - Lotuspike The Nazgul - The Nazgul - Psi-fi Various Artists - Analogy Vol. 2 - Groove Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST (GMT-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 2 13:45:41 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E5B33BEDB; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:45:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 08:43:55 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #514 for February 1, 2007 To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Message-id: <45C3401B.7010007@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 13:45:40 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/070201.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, 92.9 FM on Service Electric Cable, and webcasting on the internet. Show #514 February 1, 2007 RECAP: On this show, I started a month-long focus on Max Corbacho. The Featured CD at Midnight was "The Resonant Memory of Earth" on Space for Music Records. The Vinyl Starter was from the LP "Structures from Silence" by Steve Roach on Fortuna Records and released in 1984. Max Corbacho: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2007/focus.html#feb PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Steve Roach Reflections in Structures from Silence Suspension (Fortuna) John Duval Hell's Canyon Hell's Canyon (Hypnos/Binary) IXOHOXI Forest Apparition Somnabulae (MP3.COM) John Lakveet gog-ocre Proportions (Groove) Fanger & Schonwalder Liquid Tape 6 Analog Overdose: The Ricochet Dream Edition (Ricochet Dream) Fanger & Schonwalder EMS No. 1 AO: TRDE (Ricochet Dream) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Max Corbacho Remote Sensing The Resonant Memory of Earth (Space for Music) Max Corbacho Lands of Sacred The Resonant Memory of Earth Silence (Space for Music) Max Corbacho Magenta Beauty TRMoE (Space for Music) Max Corbacho The Resonant Memory The Resonant Memory of Earth of Earth (Space for Music) 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist % = excerpt NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll continue the month-long focus on Max Corbacho. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Nocturnal Emanations" on Space for Music Records. The Vinyl Starter will be from the LP "Time's Encomium" by Charles Wuorinen on Nonesuch Records and released in 1969. Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST (GMT-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site - http://wdiy.org/programs/gt RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 2 14:41:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 66A273BEC5; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 14:41:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=oDv8e2ENyDdZqVQVa3WF4H3URuK8Tle/94AtnUEWWJRE537KH08s9zz5bFG1HWbuH4fiFmVBXwaS94x3MDbQXVkQEgpkUnJ3MOmipB3TqB1U++m2Yb5dX7RnF35jMLxv9lvy0DgkbbZUft9xox9BIBM7/0dXiZmips7jLsoRTCc= Message-ID: <55e79c0d0702020641m24c39c6cs60eee2c47e0ead5f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 08:41:30 -0600 From: "Dan Katayama" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RC50 question... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17294_13547327.1170427290887" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 14:41:33 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_17294_13547327.1170427290887 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I've been using the RC50 and I really want to put this unit on my desk rather than leave it on the floor. I find myself pressing alot of the buttons with my hand, rather than my foot. I think the only button I press with my foot is the "record/overdub" button. So, I bought a footswitch, but it looks like you cannot program the footswitch to act as the "record/overdub" button. Does anybody know of a work-around for this? Thanks, Dan -- kosukeweb http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 ------=_Part_17294_13547327.1170427290887 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I've been using the RC50 and I really want to put this unit on my desk
rather than leave it on the floor.
I find myself pressing alot of the buttons with my hand, rather than my foot.
I think the only button I press with my foot is the "record/overdub" button.

So, I bought a footswitch, but it looks like you cannot program the footswitch to act as the "record/overdub" button.
Does anybody know of a work-around for this?

Thanks,
Dan

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kosukeweb
http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 ------=_Part_17294_13547327.1170427290887-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 2 14:53:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A398E3BED2; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 14:53:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: <55e79c0d0702020641m24c39c6cs60eee2c47e0ead5f@mail.gmail.com> References: <55e79c0d0702020641m24c39c6cs60eee2c47e0ead5f@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-8-994734879 Message-Id: From: Teddy Kumpel Subject: Re: RC50 question... Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 09:52:59 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 14:53:09 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-8-994734879 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed They don't give you a way to do that. I hope the can add stuff like that in a future software update. I really want them to add a way to pan the guide on the outputs. TEddy On Feb 2, 2007, at 9:41 AM, Dan Katayama wrote: > I've been using the RC50 and I really want to put this unit on my desk > rather than leave it on the floor. > I find myself pressing alot of the buttons with my hand, rather > than my foot. > I think the only button I press with my foot is the "record/ > overdub" button. > > So, I bought a footswitch, but it looks like you cannot program the > footswitch to act as the "record/overdub" button. > Does anybody know of a work-around for this? > > Thanks, > Dan > > -- > kosukeweb > http://home.comcast.net/~kkatayama76 --Apple-Mail-8-994734879 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII They don't give you a way to do = that.

I hope the = can add stuff like that in a future software update.
I really = want them to add a way to pan the guide on the outputs.

TEddy

On Feb 2, 2007, at 9:41 AM, Dan Katayama wrote:

I've been = using the RC50 and I really want to put this unit on my desk
rather = than leave it on the floor.
I find myself pressing alot of the = buttons with my hand, rather than my foot.
I think the only button I = press with my foot is the "record/overdub" button.

So, I bought = a footswitch, but it looks like you cannot program the footswitch to act = as the "record/overdub" button.
Does anybody know of a work-around = for this?

Thanks,
Dan

-- =
kosukeweb
http://home.comcast.net/~kka= tayama76

= --Apple-Mail-8-994734879-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 2 17:04:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 527BD3BEDD; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 17:04:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Subject: Semi-OT: Express Card slot on Laptop--digital audio? Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 09:04:41 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: AcdG7Dq1A9TC3iWDR8iutx2qJALe5w== Message-Id: <20070202170450.FXNI1349.fed1rmmtao106.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 17:04:52 +0000 (UTC) Hello digital music folk, Yesterday I took possession of an HP Pavilion to replace an ailing Compaq, and found there was no PCI-CIA slot, only something called an Express Card slot. The Echo Indigo doesn't fit into it; guess I'll have to use my M-Audio Solo with the Firewire connection for now. But I am wondering if any of you have an idea of when (or if) hardware for digital audio will be available for this slot. TIA, Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 2 17:17:16 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 30EF33BEEC; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 17:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20070202170450.FXNI1349.fed1rmmtao106.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net> References: <20070202170450.FXNI1349.fed1rmmtao106.cox.net@fed1rmimpo01.cox.net> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 12:17:06 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Charles Zwicky Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Express Card slot on Laptop--digital audio? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" X-ELNK-Trace: e070562f4b6af5994d2b10475b571120a21a22da03623298ced2962fb2647f96032bdccc9f1ed897350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.86.208.154 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 17:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Universal Audio have announced an express card version of their UAD system. http://www.uaudio.com/products/uad-dsp_menu.html >Hello digital music folk, >Yesterday I took possession of an HP Pavilion to replace an ailing Compaq, >and found there was no PCI-CIA slot, only something called an Express Card >slot. The Echo Indigo doesn't fit into it; guess I'll have to use my M-Audio >Solo with the Firewire connection for now. But I am wondering if any of you >have an idea of when (or if) hardware for digital audio will be available >for this slot. >TIA, >Gary -- ... http://www.zmix.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 2 18:39:08 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC03B3BEE8; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 18:39:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <003501c7462b$445ca9d0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <4CB9CB8A-4993-44C6-9E87-CEB8C5A6319E@zoekeating.com> <003501c7462b$445ca9d0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 19:38:31 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: RE: Imogen&Zoe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Feb 2007 18:39:06.0159 (UTC) FILETIME=[6B22C3F0:01C746F9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 18:39:08 +0000 (UTC) > hi Zoe, > >> sorry the sound was so bunk. we do actually have an engineer with us  >> who is usually quite amazing. don't know why it got so loud. > >the sound in Cologne was quite clear and good :-) but yes, it was quite >loud at times (I was directly at the stage between the PA towers so it was >bearable for me). Not during the more quiet pieces but Imogen's "rock" piece >really shook the house :-) > >-Michael www.michaelpeters.de thats how it was in Bern. sometimes impressively loud, but not for long time... for me, Zoes part could have been softer when solo and louder when with Imi. I was impressed how complex sounds and changes they dominated. A lot of MIDI and sync going on, controllers all over. 4 Repeaters... And still simplicity and that wonderfull Mbira get their moments and add wonderfull dynamics... I was most moved by the looped voices. I loved the demonstration of the whole setup by Imogen. Fun and deducational and adding value to the presentation from then on. I had imagined looping as an impro tool, but those two professionals show that its very seriously supports complex compositions. And it still feels very different from calling ready samples! And the room was packed, there is a public for this music, as oposed to most experimental looping we are hearing... I had a great evening! Matthias -- ---> http://www.matthiasgrob.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 2 19:14:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A94683BEE8; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 19:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45C38DA4.4080708@addcom.de> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:14:44 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ANN: Freewheeling Live Looper 0.5.5 Release (Mac OS X / Linux) References: <20070201190620.249DF13EC0@ws5-9.us4.outblaze.com> In-Reply-To: <20070201190620.249DF13EC0@ws5-9.us4.outblaze.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 19:14:44 +0000 (UTC) Yon P Mercury wrote: > Start from this folder, and you should have no problem. confirmed...., and after the first start, I can move it to my spaced folder and it will still run.... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 2 19:14:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B07333BEF3; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 19:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45C38DB3.80004@addcom.de> Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2007 20:14:59 +0100 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Macintosh/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Guitar to Miscellaneous Music boxes References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 19:14:57 +0000 (UTC) Dean, Hal wrote: > Surely others have done this. Anyone seen something similar? I always wanted it, but I don't have the correct pickup for my bass yet. I would feed each string into a different delay line/loop with different lengths, to get another approach of a more complex canon structure... If you play a melody across strings, it will break up, if you play it on a single string it will stay intact... I would like to have one single firewire cable coming out of my bass, or have it wireless.... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Feb 2 19:25:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8A88D3BEF0; Fri, 2 Feb 2007 19:25:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: <4CB9CB8A-4993-44C6-9E87-CEB8C5A6319E@zoekeating.com> <003501c7462b$445ca9d0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-1011081959 Message-Id: <5aebea4b852cbfce45b60e42d48c180e@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: Imogen&Zoe Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 11:25:26 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/67592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2007 19:25:33 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-1011081959 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On 2-Feb-07, at 10:38 AM, Matthias Grob wrote: > I had imagined looping as an impro tool, but those two professionals > show that its very seriously supports complex compositions. And it > still feels very different from calling ready samples! > > And the room was packed, there is a public for this music, as oposed > to most experimental looping we are hearing... > > I had a great evening! > Matthias I'd really like to see them do it. Is there video? I don't use it as an improv tool, more as a composing & live performance assistant. But I love some of the improv stuff I've seen from you all (actually... all o' y'all). I keep going back to Steve Lawson's myspace because I think he's doing something between composing and improv. And he does it so well. To me, it's all about melody and originality. If you can do improv and pull the listener in in the same way a heart/mind expanding composed melody can, then you will pack the house. OR... if you're so original you dazzle the mind of the listener with new vistas of possibility, you could maybe not pack a big house but certainly could have a very interested house - which may be more rewarding in the long run. But the combo of originality and melody never fails. Add rhythm and you're headed for the bank... unless you get side tracked along the way. Which most of us do. Offspring, new cars, gimgacks, flattering bosses, household chores and the ultimate distractor - things on TV screens and monitors. Hey! Maybe I should make a bumper sticker... "So many distractions, so little time!" richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com --Apple-Mail-3-1011081959 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII On 2-Feb-07, at 10:38 AM, Matthias Grob wrote: I had imagined looping as an impro tool, but those two professionals show that its very seriously supports complex compositions. And it still feels very different from calling ready samples! And the room was packed, there is a public for this music, as oposed to most experimental looping we are hearing... I had a great evening! Matthias I'd really like to see them do it. Is there video? I don't use it as an improv tool, more as a composing & live performance assistant. But I love some of the improv stuff I've seen from you all (actually... all o' y'all). I keep going back to Steve Lawson's myspace because I think he's doing something between composing and improv. And he does it so well. To me, it's all about melody and originality. If you can do improv and pull the listener in in the same way a heart/mind expanding composed melody can, then you will pack the house. OR... if you're so original you dazzle the mind of the listener with new vistas of possibility, you could maybe not pack a big house but certainly could have a very interested house - which may be more rewarding in the long run. But the combo of originality and melody never fails. Add rhythm and you're headed for the bank... unless you get side tracked along the way. Which most of us do. Offspring, new cars, gimgacks, flattering bosses, household chores and the ultimate distractor - things on TV screens and monitors. Hey! Maybe I should make a bumper sticker... "So many distractions, so little time!" Gadgetrichard sales 7371,7F7D,C5C3glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C1,9694,1C1A www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com --Apple-Mail-3-1011081959-- From root@rannow.org Sat Feb 3 02:15:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: from rannow.org (rannow.org [217.160.203.84]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD363BEAB for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2007 02:15:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 27861 invoked by uid 0); 1 Feb 2007 19:59:14 -0000 Date: 1 Feb 2007 19:59:14 -0000 Message-ID: <20070201195914.27860.qmail@rannow.org> To: looparc@loopers-delight.com From: Bank of America Content-Type: text/html Subject: Security: Your Online Banking Account is Blocked Bank of America Account Review Department !
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