From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 01:04:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7553A3BEB9; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 01:04:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=A7uF3qFl+xWbddZQ/QCEH6Mja+/FXevwhvYRSth7YZ3xtzx1BHXfL9BTSu5R+j7I7RvBPzFpj/qHjFOejY1yfRwcTLqw5IddKaJSAuuN7l+Rb/DqBZd2GZwqSdNtbPbjEnc8aM91soHajruHudDe6b56uHZjp6NUjCjfu+PTFqI= Message-ID: <9e0440a60612311704w6e6c7bf0q26563a9d1f25ab13@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 20:04:30 -0500 From: "Jim Goodin" To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Happy New Year and a Great Loopin' 2007 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_123976_14652215.1167613470277" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 01:04:31 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_123976_14652215.1167613470277 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello to all on the list. I wanted to pass on a great New Year or to those in Europe a belated New Year and the best to everyone in 07 filled with much creative wave, opportunities, collaborative projects, fortune and most importantly, personal and world peace is always the hope in a New Year. In subtle promotion I wanted to mention 3 recently posted video's on YouTube, 2 solo with pieces I wrote for a long time influence and saddly gone, Michael Hedges , and the 3rd featuring a project born from this list connection. Composer/guitarist/loop artist Daryl Shawn and I met back in the summer through a random email I sent for info via loopers-delight. That interaction led to Y2K6 and beyond creating what we call Chinapainting. *Solo video - For Michael* - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvhRDdBvP-I *Solo video - Departures* - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ_Vbk2JIYQ - (forgive the wind noise went for the moment here) *Chinapainting - November 4th*- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkDHjc2h-Cg For any of you who will be at the Winter NAMM show in Anaheim, CA, please let me know as I would like to meet you. I have relationships with GHS Strings and Seagull Guitars and will be around those booths but mostly I'll be roaming the show. For anyone there or with family/friends in the LA area I wanted to also mention that I have one show scheduled while in southern CA. I'll be performing in a *GHS Strings clinic * at the *Puente Hills/Industry City (suburban LA) **Sam Ash Music* * on January 18th at 7pm.* Again it's great to be part of this collective. I hope to get to know everyone better in 07, I came in as said on the throws of Y2K and that said I really look forward to Y2K7 Loopfest. Best to all and Happy New Year. Cheers Jim Goodin http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodin.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic MySpace (EoW) - http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere Acoustic World Guitar podcast series - http://jimgoodinmusic.libsyn.com The Language of 3, an introspective performance concept in acoustic music - http://www.languageof3.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com , Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com Associates and friends on the web - Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com ------=_Part_123976_14652215.1167613470277 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Hello to all on the list.  I wanted to pass on a great New Year or to those in Europe a belated New Year and the best to everyone in 07 filled with much creative wave, opportunities, collaborative projects, fortune and most importantly, personal and world peace is always the hope in a New Year.
 
In subtle promotion I wanted to mention 3 recently posted video's on YouTube, 2 solo with pieces I wrote for a long time influence and saddly gone, Michael Hedges, and the 3rd featuring a project born from this list connection.  Composer/guitarist/loop artist Daryl Shawn and I met back in the summer through a random email I sent for info via loopers-delight.  That interaction led to Y2K6 and beyond creating what we call Chinapainting.
 
Solo video - Departures -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ_Vbk2JIYQ - (forgive the wind noise went for the moment here)
 
For any of you who will be at the Winter NAMM show in Anaheim, CA, please let me know as I would like to meet you.  I have relationships with  GHS Strings and Seagull Guitars and will be around those booths but mostly I'll be roaming the show.  For anyone there or with family/friends in the LA area I wanted to also mention that I have one show scheduled while in southern CA.  I'll be performing in a GHS Strings clinic at the Puente Hills/Industry City (suburban LA) Sam Ash Music on January 18th at 7pm.
 
Again it's great to be part of this collective.  I hope to get to know everyone better in 07, I came in as said on the throws of Y2K and that said I really look forward to Y2K7 Loopfest.  Best to all and Happy New Year. 
 
Cheers
 
Jim Goodin


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The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodin.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
MySpace (EoW) - http://www.myspace.com/eastofwhere
Acoustic World Guitar podcast series - http://jimgoodinmusic.libsyn.com
The Language of 3, an introspective performance concept in acoustic music - http://www.languageof3.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com , Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com

Associates and friends on the web -
Adam Werner - http://www.adamwerner.com
John Stowell - http://www.johnstowell.com
Matt Richards - http://www.mattrichardsmusic.net
Michael Manring - http://www.manthing.com
Will Ackerman - http://www.williamackerman.com
New Land Music - http://www.newlandmusic.com
------=_Part_123976_14652215.1167613470277-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 01:25:40 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 719853BEB3; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 01:25:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopersdelight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070101012538.43226.qmail@web32707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=FBr6EowKpGRxUd1ezB3YC/rNxgi2+U6aObYB5HXHWIkp/qWWDWBGjZYoQoPYuMTW0YJjeEWZClUXlvG1sY6MUFJcIf33A31usAikgxt4KXo6L2MlV1LZkqQ5BIldA1tmslXc3i1v7OczRPtZDPSdbX8SEl5YCcd9Y0jBJ3WErb0=; X-YMail-OSG: hY9dDWMVM1lvOV30QB0Lnd8zDGk5Mu8MJC0K3BiQoOPFakYg0QYBvCNJ1R1mKgIXIXC7qS.ZyzYcQcYBQo4vrXVdn5eEaUsVmZiMDz_5Gmp.peMRFG3InByb.cx.W62yK6d5a0IZfGg4Rag- Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 17:25:38 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: live looping To: loopers-delight@loopersdelight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <5h6DUD.A.vnF.UMGmFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 01:25:40 +0000 (UTC) howdy, can someone explain to me this "live looping" thing? I've been using Ibanez DM-1100s for years by pushing the "Hold" button and manipulating the speed, repetition, and mod controls in real time. I don't know of a way to add things to it once it's "locked". Is this what you guys are discussing? Is there older thrifty type harware out there that will allow me to add sounds as i manipulate the echoes? Am I on the right track here? thanx Rig __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 01:45:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5FEC3BEAF; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 01:45:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=Ts5+K19J7Aw0ylqmaOldbW1Mfh1iJ2TjzAv1q0pwRAa8imbCmQizK3bYkNSi1l1Z3C20rT6ZXYnvVw0Wm5PA70uzAczwn9MYxHqM/utOGkHJT9H0qVV9IQ8Asm2hL42W6Wg/2GaNoWh2YbHgfGhmcEA6z7lvK4OnG56b3qrMta0=; X-YMail-OSG: 2Vki_3QVM1k9s6y4CpWZ88cL3HQIuVcnZ9K5WTA4OY4mB5nwvVqOcpIEgNq1r1w30DY8OdbEKUfGj2nb0hdoQmU15oNmioqYZVrOtCm2Jy4FZxlJ5j3Do2CiPV7vu6tTlWR0YH.Cp.q1EaM- Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 17:45:32 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: live looping To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20070101012538.43226.qmail@web32707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <899960.97251.qm@web81304.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 01:45:34 +0000 (UTC) --- bill bigrig wrote: > howdy, > > can someone explain to me this "live looping" > thing? Oh, you're already doing it my friend. > I've been using Ibanez DM-1100s for years by pushing > the "Hold" button and manipulating the speed, > repetition, and mod controls in real time. I don't know about the DM-1100s, but a lot of units in it's day let you "freeze" (Set feedback to 100% and not feed any more signal into the loop) but also allow you to open the loop back up and continue adding. Often if you change the feedback to less than 100% you can get nice evolving loops (though technically it's no longer a true loop we still talk about that effect as such here) There's lots of units that do some looping and not all of them are really expensive. Your best bet is to take a trip over to the "tools of the trade" page on Looper's Delight and read a brief description and review of most of them to get a feel for what's possible. Then check ebay to see the prices of different things. I still think one of the great loopers of our time is the Lexicon JamMan and it can often be found fairly cheaply on ebay. Other classics are the Gibson/Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro and Electrix Repeater, but they're more high end loopers filled with lots of features and often fetch fairly high prices even used. I think the Echoplex is still in production though. The current most full featured hardware based looper out there is the Looperlative. That baby will set you back $1500 I think, but I'm told it's become an amazing product. If you have a decent computer and firewire or usb2 audio card then Mobius or Angstromloop are VST loopers that are FREE. Angstomloop is very simple (though useful) and Mobius is very full featured and roughly based on the Echoplex. With either you'll also want a MIDI controller. Good luck, Mark __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 01:58:56 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 392943BECC; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 01:58:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: fabio anile Reply-To: fabio anile To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Happy 2007 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 02:58:26 +0200 Message-ID: X-Mailer: EPOC e-mail Versione 2.10 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 01:58:56 +0000 (UTC) 2007 will see my new CD out and the Speech project (a ct collective project). happy looping from Barcellona (Spain). fabio From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 02:00:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 764703BECC; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 02:00:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=p7wQjF7wUot8+B1imXQnioUJ74ex15XIQwqlIaMRms5W/UcYKkAnoKUu40WOqN8x4obIHW8izviAFasxIesand6yStp80mPLuwsjSpGbVn3EjNNJxD/pJXGiZ9IB1mRGd16G/lRkEu6uiJB2uigKpSTAqoyDUZ5TITEmxa1gkhU= ; Message-ID: <20070101020000.11316.qmail@web81315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 6mhLD78VM1nRJszblLdSMXUg.tS9y9nTDGCXoCXVsGT6c9BXTOI39Lt0mZTeRcX3wyO6sii5SJz1Ck8W8niZlXoNDp2ns0HsjV4hJrrcYIICa18AKw6ejJa8VF7JIM1e1O.mNZEFSK5w7Q-- Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 18:00:00 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: Re: LOOPING VOCALIST: Imogen Heap To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 02:00:01 +0000 (UTC) The demise of the LP marked the end of me knowing the names of songs, sadly, but it was all amazing. --- David Coffin wrote: > Man, I’d love to see her; what’s the live version of > Hide and Seek __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 02:05:29 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 021803BEB0; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 02:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=fb0hGTjFqvilPfbV21NCGanDQ/aNlUuJ1VACCweLRK9lQikzA75d1ArLDX2vi54V; h=Received:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20070101020000.11316.qmail@web81315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070101020000.11316.qmail@web81315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <39B755F3-9C09-42F3-B873-7A8E7571F0E9@earthlink.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: David Coffin Subject: Re: LOOPING VOCALIST: Imogen Heap Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 18:05:25 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-ELNK-Trace: 0cf8a1273a73c9ff1aa676d7e74259b7b3291a7d08dfec7940d71b8bcb3cc90ce61c219e6357ae73350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 68.118.48.94 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 02:05:28 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, I had to dig out the CD to recall the title...but the SOUND is =20 unforgettable: it=92s the vocoded one...watch it here: http://youtube.com/watch?v=3DDaMFXLTSK1Y&mode=3Drelated&search=3D On Dec 31, 2006, at 6:00 PM, mark sottilaro wrote: > The demise of the LP marked the end of me knowing the > names of songs, sadly, but it was all amazing. > > --- David Coffin wrote: > >> Man, I=92d love to see her; what=92s the live version of >> Hide and Seek > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 05:34:33 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1E0073BEB5; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 05:34:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <009201c72d66$80ae7720$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> From: "RICK WALKER" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: re: generative rhythm approach Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 21:34:26 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 05:34:32 +0000 (UTC) Yeah, this is cool stuff, Bernhard. Thanks for posting it. I wanted to comment on one thing you wrote as it is a subject that fascinates me with generative rhythms. you wrote: "I think the fascination comes from the equal distance between 1, 2, 3, and 4, consisting of five 16ths each. This creates the illusion of a 5-rhythm which is discarded at the beginning of each bar." A way of viewing all repeating odd time figures (when playing in an even time context improvisationally or compositionally) is that they are displacements of normal even time figures. I call this rhythmic strategy, Rhythmic Displacement It is one of the formal lessons in the Rhythm Intensive that I've started posting so I'll post it later if you are interested. Thanks for the really cool generative approach. I too love generative systems. I always wanted to write a book called Generative Systems for the Modern Drummer for people who can play a simple rock and roll drum beat and play a single stroke drum roll on a snare but who may not live in an area where there is a good teacher to help them with what comes next. If anyone who plays drums on this list wants some cool exercises to expand their skill set on the drumset, let me know I'll send you a couple. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 07:25:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 92AD33BEB9; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 07:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-350533838 From: "Matthew F. McCabe" Subject: Album release Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 23:24:54 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Authenticated-User: finleysound@fastermac.net X-SpamDetect: *: 1.200000 Suspicious tags-to-text ratio=1.2 X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 0, First 0, in=1, out=0, spam=0 ip=66.248.89.27 X-Originating-IP: 66.248.89.27 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 07:25:00 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-350533838 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I am releasing my new King Never album, Lullabies & Sleepless Nights, tomorrow, January 1, 2007. It's all guitar and mostly looped. The title and material was inspired by my kids. Feedback is always welcome. Samples available at www.kingnever.com/ agnv2.html. Matt P.S. Yes, I'm vying for the coveted "First Looping Album of the Year" award! --- King Never http://www.kingnever.com --Apple-Mail-2-350533838 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
I am releasing my new King = Never album, Lullabies & Sleepless Nights, tomorrow, January 1, = 2007.=A0 It's all guitar and mostly looped.=A0 The title and material = was inspired by my kids.=A0=A0

Feedback is always = welcome.=A0 Samples available at www.kingnever.com/agnv2.html<= /A>.



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= --Apple-Mail-2-350533838-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 13:07:02 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B5C2F3BEB8; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 13:07:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=Q6FzP/Mom2akzmGgZWEiwnS86RnZyc/KeejMdNU2d8JSf+slTufY/5adLIzjbGV4UXQxSLmsiOPpQxTfZ4h6PwsBYmKwNxsWtbIdk8t+3UcWD6jIZL+506pqJXJxKPknLG854/TURZVRtmSDoS3DRqCIOd6DhdgJYvQrfq4jQQI= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20070101012538.43226.qmail@web32707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070101012538.43226.qmail@web32707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: live looping Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 14:06:57 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: <2NzgY.A.wyH.2dQmFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 13:07:02 +0000 (UTC) On 1 jan 2007, at 02.25, bill bigrig wrote: > howdy, > > can someone explain to me this "live looping" thing? > I've been using Ibanez DM-1100s for years by pushing > the "Hold" button and manipulating the speed, > repetition, and mod controls in real time. That's almost the same Ibanez box that got me into live looping back in the early eighties. > I don't > know of a way to add things to it once it's "locked". I don't think that is possible. What you could do is to hook it up with a mixer, or some other signal splitting device, and send the delay output back into the input - but though a volume pedal. This pedal then becomes what among loopers is called "a feedback pedal". When the "Hold" button is open your loop will stay the same when the pedal is in the "full volume" position and you will be able to add your playing to the looping audio. Lower the pedal volume a bit and your played input will replace the looping audio, a little more for each round depending on pedal position. And if you want to play on top of the loop, without your live playing getting recorded, you simply step on the "Hold" button pedal (my Ibanez had jack for using a normal switcher pedal for the Hold function). Be sure to check out Mark's reply in this thread, some good hints given there. Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 14:55:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DFA883BEB5; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 14:55:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20070101145458.54261.qmail@web38606.mail.mud.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=W157WZMAa6C5RSbDFA0ksOLFDhKizF6CTiSA1T4PyOoRtN/pDO6Nl8ywWTGGiq7xoF/nR8bTybhe6oL7LzFnioZ26skZXTrL2fSWlOwysohEEVlaaR7hOBzuWjd8yPuyGtbBCjat8SwD/W8vOK0LnbT/ZRu1csQvTXPA5S9dpTk=; X-YMail-OSG: Erl83gsVM1mW_rPd48K9WDDqDvOW8yj9QeUJeblbej.pYN6pG6ZHprxqZZ4dgUOyI3v3B57LJa7nscac9imfRYsTp2DibzAcBG8TisNBciNbTxoG5TAv5g-- Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 06:54:58 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: 2007!!!!! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <014001c72c0a$07e40e70$64ddfea9@DAYGLOGREEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 14:55:00 +0000 (UTC) wonderful mails brother happy new year to you and all as well! But you didnt tell me you play the armenian Duduk i love that instrument! where did u get it?? Cheers Luis --- RICK WALKER wrote: > Happy New Years to Everybody! > > I think 2007 may be the cultural watershed year of > this first decade of the > new Millennium > in much the way the 1967 and 1968 were defining > years, culturally in the > 1960s. > > We've been in a really flat place for a long time > here in the United States > (waiting out the Bush > regime's end) but I think the tide has turned, > culturally and artistically. > > The older paradigms of the music industry are dying > rapidly (Tower Records > completely out of business?). > We are in a new phase where people don't listen to > whole albums much > anymore..................they are able > to get the lion share of their music for free on the > web and listen to it on > I pods. > > A lot of things are changing which means that a lot > of new ways of > communicating are on their ways. > > The musical and artistic communities of the future > are starting to be built > now through places > like this website, tribe.net, myspace, > youtube.com, etc. > > The amount of information on many, many things > musically is available almost > instantaneously, now on the web. > I spent the evening watching looping French pop > vocalists, Russian world > fusion multi-instrumentalists, 12 years > old South Indian girls who are going to be the next > generations' master > drummers, online tutorials for > Max/MSP and Jitter, directions for reinstalling my > MAudio Firewire audio > computer interface, all > just sitting in front of my computer. I worked > on Arabic maqams on my > Armenian Duduk, my purple anodized > pocket trumpet, my Rick Turner purple fretless > acoustic/electric bass and > my voice out of a book that I found > online and ordered through the independent bookstore > where my wife works. > > Ten years ago, ney five years ago, I couldn't > have possibly had as > productive and knowledge increasing a day as I did > today. > > *********************************** > Someone once said that artists are the Antennae of a > Culture. Because they > are so sensitive, they can frequently see changes > coming in the culture long before they occur. > > It's an exciting time to be alive............... a > challenging time to be > alive, ecologically and economically. > A lot of things are going to change and very, very > rapidly. > > I think we are on the cutting edge in this musical > movement of Live Looping > of a lot of what's going to change and define > the paradigms of live playing in the next decades to > come. > > In the past years, a very large number of very > famous and prominent artists > had musicians in their bands who are using live > looping tools. I saw a > show with Thomas Dolby, Loop Station and Genie > where EVERYONE was looping > live on stage > and there wasn't a single word about Live Looping > anywhere. That made me > really happy. > > We are finally starting to arrive in the musical > landscape. I could not > have written that paragraph 5 years ago. > > Things are changing. > > I feel happy and blessed to be part of this > community that is so innovative > and also so supportive of each other's artistry. > > Happy New Years everyone. May you all have a > fantastic year, creatively. > > Throw caution to the > wind....................................Put out a > CD! > Throw a festival! Buy recordings from your > fellow artists. > Let's do it!!!!!! > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 16:34:52 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 41AF63BEB8; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 16:34:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=VXgpVaJ5xcPLbn0SaxM9UbPQ9AAtv3RjSSPQtu9hvNTmJ0iH1y2wfrj2VrmElkJneMFwBcIN90aYX8FeFbzXckhtRQiRgNRjSiui9BG3AhGb+8pjH27xzJeJW/3ITqJ0DNQ8KXHzqDZRnxyu0mhYourw21xivX0PFwf9kdFIBNE= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 08:34:50 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: live looping In-Reply-To: <20070101012538.43226.qmail@web32707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_209005_23139668.1167669290277" References: <20070101012538.43226.qmail@web32707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <8IW3m.A.SdE.sgTmFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 16:34:52 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_209005_23139668.1167669290277 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm not sure what your question is--I used to have one of those, and as I recall the Hold function and the feedback level were independent, like in most rack mount delays. What you can do is set the feedback to maximum and build up a loop, then hit Hold. Whatever's in the loop will stay there. If you want to add something, turn the Hold off, and the loop will continue to decay at whatever level the feedback control is set to while you add more material. You can have the feedback at something low, 25% or so to cause the loop to decay/evolve quickly, or keep it pretty close to the max for the Wall of Sound. Without Hold enabled the loop will eventually fade away since I don't think the feedback could be set to 100%, but you could use an external mixer to manage the actual feedback loop, at the expense of added noise. TravisH On 12/31/06, bill bigrig wrote: > > howdy, > > can someone explain to me this "live looping" thing? > I've been using Ibanez DM-1100s for years by pushing > the "Hold" button and manipulating the speed, > repetition, and mod controls in real time. I don't > know of a way to add things to it once it's "locked". > Is this what you guys are discussing? Is there older > thrifty type harware out there that will allow me to > add sounds as i manipulate the echoes? Am I on the > right track here? thanx > Rig > > _ ------=_Part_209005_23139668.1167669290277 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm not sure what your question is--I used to have one of those, and as I recall the Hold function and the feedback level were independent, like in most rack mount delays.  What you can do is set the feedback to maximum and build up a loop, then hit Hold.  Whatever's in the loop will stay there.  If you want to add something, turn the Hold off, and the loop will continue to decay at whatever level the feedback control is set to while you add more material.  You can have the feedback at something low, 25% or so to cause the loop to decay/evolve quickly, or keep it pretty close to the max for the Wall of Sound. 

Without Hold enabled the loop will eventually fade away since I don't think the feedback could be set to 100%, but you could use an external mixer to manage the actual feedback loop, at the expense of added noise.

TravisH

On 12/31/06, bill bigrig <billbigrig@yahoo.com> wrote:
howdy,

can someone explain to me this "live looping" thing?
I've been using Ibanez DM-1100s for years by pushing
the "Hold" button and manipulating the speed,
repetition, and mod controls in real time. I don't
know of a way to add things to it once it's "locked".
Is this what you guys are discussing? Is there older
thrifty type harware out there that will allow me to
add sounds as i manipulate the echoes? Am I on the
right track here? thanx
Rig

_

------=_Part_209005_23139668.1167669290277-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 17:59:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DA2D73BEC2; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 17:59:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <45994BE7.2010302@adelphia.net> Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 12:59:03 -0500 From: Brian Good User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Macintosh/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Old Topic with the scientists' unscientific reply - mainly for Per References: <07e601c72d27$b86db340$51b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 17:59:09 +0000 (UTC) Richard Sales wrote: > I do have an unscientific opinion. I do not believe the sound of metal > instruments is because of aging but more because of the type of metal > (brass) that was used and how it was formed. > I think this is an argument, like politics and religion, which one can > not win. Maybe a real scientist can add some scientific data, but I will > still take my old Super 20 or Mark VI over any of the pretty new axes > that are on the market. A real scientist? I've managed to fool NASA into thinking so for quite awhile. :-) When this subject came up a couple weeks ago, I talked to a metallurgist friend about metal aging. He normally works on developing new alloys for jet engine internals. Come to think of it, that's probably pretty relevant, since jet engines and saxophones in operation are both full of hot air and make loud, annoying noises. It's been a long time since I looked at Art Benade's book on musical acoustics, so any real acoustics jocks on the list should feel free to offer corrections or howl in outrage. If memory serves, a textbook wind instrument has infinitely stiff walls, and its sound is determined by its shape, the mouthpiece, the player's oral cavity, the reed, etc. As you move from a textbook idealization to a real-world instrument, the walls are no longer infinitely stiff, and, if they become thin and compliant enough, start to contribute to the sound by selectively damping certain frequencies (the tone holes also provide damping, but that's another issue). So, in principal, the properties of the metal can affect the sound. These properties can change over time, although thermodynamics dictates that the changes usually happen slowly. During instrument construction, metal is typically bent, rolled and generally abused, which work-hardens it, building in internal stresses. The stresses can be annealed out by heat treating, but if that isn't done, stress-relief can still occur slowly over time via the motion of defects called dislocations, resulting in a softer metal. Also, depending on the specific alloy and its heat treatment history, additional phases may slowly precipitate out, forming small islands within the bulk alloy. These islands may coalesce over time, via a process called Ostwald ripening, to form fewer but larger islands. There's also the issue of surface treatment--most instruments are lacquered, but some are plated, and different platings sound different. This suggests that if the surface were to oxidize over time, it might affect the sound as well. I don't know whether this stuff would be enough to cause an audible difference over time; probably somebody at Selmer knows the answer. As a physicist, my understanding of this is pretty superficial, and a real metallurgist could probably offer a better explanation. Having said all this, I haven't noticed changes in the sounds of my seventies-vintage Mk VI soprano or tenor. Or, rather, any changes are likely masked by changes in reeds and mouthpieces, and the fact that aging seems to affect the player much worse than the instruments. Brian From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 18:08:10 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 02CA53BEC7; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 18:08:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 19:08:06 +0100 (MET) From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Old Topic with the scientists' unscientific reply - mainly for Per Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000501c72dcf$cec2edb0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <45994BE7.2010302@adelphia.net> Thread-Index: AcctzomxzQ3PiH4wRMSPELVUbYiMXQAARV9g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq Resent-Message-ID: <-VmpcB.A.Z0G.J4UmFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 18:08:09 +0000 (UTC) The short answer to the "blowthru instrument material" question I received from the guy behind www.eppelsheim.com: The material is highly relevant for woodwinds, much less (only slightly) for brass instruments. Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 19:13:00 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 43C8A3BEC7; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 19:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=a/uDxnr9KM3fq9BX6dDhERS3mwGM6GXHA509nZt3WubFfoWDPDu3hqkSfScMKwwPgHmiA1HcgPvl+JDMG6UuHiMsARR9mlKJgr+5YpKrtUDco2kwr+jBKhj/0Buyl0wgeOKACcynZFDGmvhCWP6NmLuD2m4zKxrRlUgtGZ8yE/k= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <000501c72dcf$cec2edb0$1001a8c0@succubus> References: <000501c72dcf$cec2edb0$1001a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: AW: Old Topic with the scientists' unscientific reply - mainly for Per Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 20:12:53 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 19:13:00 +0000 (UTC) On 1 jan 2007, at 19.08, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > The short answer to the "blowthru instrument material" question I > received > from the guy behind www.eppelsheim.com: > > The material is highly relevant for woodwinds, much less (only > slightly) for > brass instruments. > > Rainer Interesting. Was he really talking about the general body of the instrument? Maybe he meant the specific matter that creates the sound in the first place? Which are the players lips in brass instrument and traditionally a slice of bamboo wood for reed instruments like saxophone. Of course the material of the little vibrating reed is highly relevant. I started using fiber coated bamboo reeds which gives a totally different sound (but that was before I started using an EWI instead of a a sax, reducing the need for reeds to zero). I think plastic saxophones are cool! But I wouldn't want a red one, I'd prefer a dark green, or brown, with big orange dots. I've heard they sound good too! 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Any tips on how to make the repeaters output into 4 seperat output - going onto my motu-then onto the mac ? Rune F. www.runefagereng.com Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Mob: 917 95 867 __________________________________________________ Bruker du Yahoo!? Lei av spam? Yahoo! Mail har den beste spambeskyttelsen http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 21:16:46 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 671153BECA; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 21:16:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <200701012116.l01LGfOF025895@mail.cruzio.com> Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: live looping Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 13:16:42 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <20070101012538.43226.qmail@web32707.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: AcctQ8EnrZGbW0beSZeOgJARadlN5QAluHUg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 21:16:46 +0000 (UTC) Live looping, as I see it, is the use of an audio recording device that allows the player to create repeating musical ideas, i.e. loops, in real time. These devices range from the simple functionality of your DM1100's to sophistication of Loop recorders like the EDP and Looperlative, as well as state of the art software for lap tops. Check the Archives. In addition to what Mark and Per said, I wanted to add another strategy for using your DM1100. You would need a volume pedal, and some kind of splitter box ( a stereo chorus or ABY box would do) to make this work. You run your instrument in to the splitter box, send one output from the splitter to your mixer or monitor source, and the other output to the volume pedal, and then your delay/looper, in your case a DM1100, and finally to your mixer or monitor source. The beauty of this technique is you can leave your feed back at %100, or what ever, and never use the hold, because you can let the volume pedal feed the delay, and add to your loop as you see fit. A cool technique you can use, with this type of routing, is you can strike a chord or note, with the volume pedal in the heal down position, push the volume pedal forward to toe down position,, and get attack-less loops, i.e. ,you have the ability to truncate your instruments attack by manipulating the volume pedal feeding your delay/looper.. I have set up the hold delay algorithm on my Vox Tonelab in this way , assigning an expression pedal to control delay input feed, and the other to control the delay/loop feedback. I don't even use a hold function, as the delay set at %100 is infinite anyway. Instead, I opt to have a tap tempo function, so I can change the delay/loop length at will, and use the algorithm as a more conventional delay as well. As you will find Bill, there are now so many ways to loop, so many devices available, and a wealth of info on this site about it. Good luck. Bill -----Original Message----- From: bill bigrig [mailto:billbigrig@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 5:26 PM To: loopers-delight@loopersdelight.com Subject: live looping howdy, can someone explain to me this "live looping" thing? I've been using Ibanez DM-1100s for years by pushing the "Hold" button and manipulating the speed, repetition, and mod controls in real time. I don't know of a way to add things to it once it's "locked". Is this what you guys are discussing? Is there older thrifty type harware out there that will allow me to add sounds as i manipulate the echoes? Am I on the right track here? thanx Rig __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 21:20:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A95403BED2; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 21:20:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <200701012120.l01LKHVR028465@mail.cruzio.com> Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: RE: making 4 outputs on the repeater Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 13:20:17 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 In-Reply-To: <20070101202805.38369.qmail@web26214.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: Acct41uKD7r61rL4R6Wmyz7vseGeQwABtKog X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=1.0 tests=AWL autolearn=disabled version=3.1.7 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on mail.cruzio.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 21:20:22 +0000 (UTC) Use the stereo effects outputs (the returns) that will act as tracks 3 and 4, and then for best results hard pan all of your tracks alternating R/l/R/l, for best separation, and don't for get hit the effects loop engage button. , This will however not allow you to use the Repeater's effects loop in a conventional way. Bill -----Original Message----- From: rune fagereng [mailto:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no] Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 12:28 PM To: repeater-users@yahoogroups.com; loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: making 4 outputs on the repeater Hi ! Any tips on how to make the repeaters output into 4 seperat output - going onto my motu-then onto the mac ? Rune F. www.runefagereng.com Mail:rune_fagereng@yahoo.no Mob: 917 95 867 __________________________________________________ Bruker du Yahoo!? Lei av spam? Yahoo! Mail har den beste spambeskyttelsen http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 22:01:42 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0ADD33BED3; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 22:01:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: References: <000501c72dcf$cec2edb0$1001a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-403124645 Message-Id: From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: AW: Old Topic with the scientists' unscientific reply - mainly for Per Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 14:01:25 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: <5fZvKC.A.vlE.FTYmFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 22:01:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-403124645 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On 1-Jan-07, at 11:12 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > I think plastic saxophones are cool! But I wouldn't want a red one, > I'd prefer a dark green, or brown, with big orange dots. I've heard > they sound good too! You know, when Charlie Parker played in Washington DC, I heard he played a plastic sax. Apparently he'd hocked his good one for heroin! I think this is all very fascinating. I think what my friend was saying was that saxes were MADE differently in the old days with lots of hands on working of the horn. So each horn could have a character of its own based on the individual building it which made for inconsistent instruments with some being amazing and some being... arf! So far it's a good new year and I got a wicked new axe for Christmas - a Husqvarna 365 chain saw with a 24" bar. How is this relevant to looping? Well... it IS a LOOP! And it's LOUD! 50+ trees down in my woods from the wind. I'M STILL ON TOPIC... wood... winds... two stroke looper. And, Per, it's from Sweden!!! richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com > > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) > http://www.myspace.com/looproom > > --Apple-Mail-3-403124645 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII On 1-Jan-07, at 11:12 AM, Per Boysen wrote: I think plastic saxophones are cool! But I wouldn't want a red one, I'd prefer a dark green, or brown, with big orange dots. I've heard they sound good too! You know, when Charlie Parker played in Washington DC, I heard he played a plastic sax. Apparently he'd hocked his good one for heroin! I think this is all very fascinating. I think what my friend was saying was that saxes were MADE differently in the old days with lots of hands on working of the horn. So each horn could have a character of its own based on the individual building it which made for inconsistent instruments with some being amazing and some being... arf! So far it's a good new year and I got a wicked new axe for Christmas - a Husqvarna 365 chain saw with a 24" bar. How is this relevant to looping? Well... it IS a LOOP! And it's LOUD! 50+ trees down in my woods from the wind. I'M STILL ON TOPIC... wood... winds... two stroke looper. And, Per, it's from Sweden!!! Gadgetrichard sales 7372,7F7E,C5C4glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816C3C2,9695,1C1B www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom --Apple-Mail-3-403124645-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 23:12:44 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 40EA83BECD; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 23:12:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=d/MsYZPjtf3r+eT3uaALQqWQv+BqP7nyPnnix8Mv5zP99EE9fnKPTSNlTkkgnB7tJY7N4dYgDJD0Gy/OMUL7hDBTTx2Sp4HujYr6qTqgjGQtcG5zcNHiajQd0GDeQzJh232FHs0sE6iNMNCzr8lLywEO9K2B+aVM5V0faRpYNik= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: References: <000501c72dcf$cec2edb0$1001a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <01AAD97F-3C1A-4D14-B212-9D41C1D53F26@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Per Boysen Subject: Re: AW: Old Topic with the scientists' unscientific reply - mainly for Per Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 00:12:39 +0100 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 23:12:44 +0000 (UTC) On 1 jan 2007, at 23.01, Richard Sales wrote: > So far it's a good new year and I got a wicked new axe for > Christmas - a Husqvarna 365 chain saw with a 24" bar. How is this > relevant to looping? Well... it IS a LOOP! And it's LOUD! 50+ > trees down in my woods from the wind. > > I'M STILL ON TOPIC... wood... winds... two stroke looper. L-O-L!!! > And, Per, it's from Sweden!!! Yep, they manufactured all kinds of quality mechanical devices. I had a moped made by Husqvarna. It nearly killed me, and others. Horrible machine. Looked like a tiny bicycle with an engine bolted to the frame as a bizarre add-on. It was more than twice as fast as the speed allowed by law. Only once did I try out its top speed, with a friend driving a car beside me to shout me the speed measured by his car's meter. I was afraid the moped should break into pieces underneath me when we reached the top speed. As soon as I realized it wouldn't go any faster I slowed down, terribly frightened - but wiser ;-) Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast) http://www.myspace.com/looproom From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 23:28:09 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC7093BECF; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 23:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 00:28:07 +0100 (MET) From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: Old Topic with the scientists' unscientific reply - mainly for Per Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000001c72dfc$82b3f9f0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Acct2Noun+Fs7DyeRpqCUjBkof5IuwAIz2Tg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 23:28:09 +0000 (UTC) Per, you wrote: > Interesting. Was he really talking about the general body of > the instrument? Maybe he meant the specific matter that > creates the sound in the first place? Which are the players > lips in brass instrument and traditionally a slice of bamboo > wood for reed instruments like saxophone. Of course the He was referring to the instrument body's effect on the sound. For some reason which I do not remember completely, the instrument's body has a greater effect on the sound for woodwinds than for brass. But even for woodwinds, the effect of the reed (and to a lesser extent, of the mouthpiece) is greater. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Jan 1 23:47:23 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26FA73BECA; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 23:47:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.45.135] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com From: "samba -" Subject: cheap cd publishing no min. 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Processed in 0.135621 secs) Message-ID: <006601c72e09$fd1d55d0$6501a8c0@SEANDELL> Reply-To: "Sean Mormelo" From: "Sean Mormelo" To: References: Subject: Re: cheap cd publishing no min. Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 16:04:43 -0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 01:04:41 +0000 (UTC) I have used it for several clients projects so far. The best deal going so for. The printing on Disk looks very good. Their online publishing tool is a bit squirelly because you can only visually line up your graphics and there are no templates. I used the Diskmakers templates and had to make some text adjustments to the J-Cards to get everything to look right. but overall, the most bang for your buck if you're looking for shrinkwrapped ready to sell short runs. Sean Mormelo www.seanmormelo.com www.myspace.com/seanmormelo EPK- www.sonicbids.com/seanmormelo www.CDbaby.com/seanmormelo ----- Original Message ----- From: "samba -" To: Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 2:47 PM Subject: cheap cd publishing no min. > http://kunaki.com/Home.asp?cc=ks > > _________________________________________________________________ > Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio powered > by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.16.2/613 - Release Date: 1/1/2007 > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 01:09:31 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5A56C3BED0; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 01:09:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <880646.48607.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <880646.48607.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 19:09:26 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: mech Subject: Re: KP3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 01:09:31 +0000 (UTC) At 10:42 PM -0800 12/30/06, mark sottilaro wrote: >Judging by your description I think Korg did it's >customers a service by creating something that's >different not just a kp2 with some new features. >Perhaps they'll continue to sell both? Yeah, I think of the whole KP series more like complementary units. Unfortunately, our first tendency is to consider every new release as a replacement for all its predecessors. Most new products are for some reason judged as inferior if they don't encapsulate every function of every previous version. Mebbe we've just been spoiled by bloatware, I dunno. I've been thinking more and more about the quantization issue, though, and I think it gets back to Korg hitting a "wall" of sorts. While the KP architecture lends itself very well to continuous theremin-like control, there are some effects that are just about physically impossible to control easily in any sort of musical manner with that as standard. Dividing the pad into discrete steps allows them to incorporate those effects into the KP. The new lighting system allows flexible visual feedback so you know where the steps are. And, as I mentioned before, they didn't quantize everything. Some effects still behave just as they did on the previous two incarnations. > > VST's like NI's FastFX or Bram's (SmartElectronix) >> SupaTrigga. > >I don't know SupaTrigga, but I've lost many a night to >playing with NI's FastFX. NI seems to not really >market it's Electronic Instrument collection, but for >the money they're a really, really interesting set of >effects and instruments. Yeah, I've found FastFX in particular to be a sleeper in that bunch; Cyan too, for that matter. I'd picked up a pirated copy of EI2xt in Bangkok last year, primarily for Metaphysical. It wasn't until I splurged on a legal copy a few weeks ago that I really started playing around with the other ensembles. (Aside: yeah, I'll use pirated warez, but I generally go on to pay for the software I use on a regular basis.) FastFX has proven to be far more useful than I ever thought it would. Unfortunately, NI has now completely discontinued Electronic Instruments 2, and I doubt they'll ever release a Universal Binary for it. As for SupaTrigga, I think you'd really dig that one, based on some of your other comments. Also, while on the Smartelectronix site, check out MDSP's LiveCut, which is similar. Either is like having a realtime version of Stylus' Chaos function. Heckuva lot easier than importing a REX loop into RMX, though. Truthfully, I think I overuse LiveCut even. For example, you can hear an instance on pretty much every instrument I used for my 30-second LD anniversary cut -- noise loop, drums, texture synth, etc... >thanks for the review Mech! No problem, although I hesitate to post a "real" review, simply 'cause I've owned the KP1 for years, but I gave the KP2 a pass. Knowing my luck, I'll start raving about some new feature, only to later realize that it was actually introduced in the KP2. :P Let me know if you have any particular questions though, and thanks for the kudos! --m. -- _______ "The future: everyone is housed, clothed, and fed, because everyone is in jail." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 02:46:34 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2F2BB3BECA; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 02:46:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <09ec01c72e18$35074470$51b0ec0f@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <75a3c13e88150c361762105b21776375@glasswing.com> Subject: Re: cheap cd publishing no min. Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 19:46:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_09E9_01C72DDD.8770D6D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 02:46:34 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_09E9_01C72DDD.8770D6D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The price looks good to me. $1.60 a CD for the color printing, shrink = warpping, UPC code, etc? I haven't seen a price lower than this for a = short run outfit. Even when I did a large run of 500 glass mastered CDs = through another company, the cost was still $2.40 a CD. For a thousand = it would have been less than $2.00.=20 I used DiskFactory for my last four CDs and their quality is = outstanding. Going with a similar package, and ordering 100 items, = DiskFactory would cost $2.70 a CD...and that doesn't even include the = UPC code, which I buy from CD Baby. I may go to this new company. Thanks, Samba. Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Richard Sales=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 5:13 PM Subject: Re: cheap cd publishing no min. The price isn't so great but no minimum order. That's really amazing! There is some mystery about 'publishing' that I don't understand. Did = you read that part? What does it mean? I guess you'd have to go through = the process to see the deal involved.=20 VERY interesting. richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 1-Jan-07, at 3:47 PM, samba - wrote: http://kunaki.com/Home.asp?cc=3Dks _________________________________________________________________ Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio = powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=3DT002MSN03A07001 ------=_NextPart_000_09E9_01C72DDD.8770D6D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The price looks good to me. $1.60 a CD = for the=20 color printing, shrink warpping, UPC code, etc?  I haven't = seen a=20 price lower than this for a short run outfit.  Even when I did a = large run=20 of 500 glass mastered CDs through another company, the cost was = still $2.40=20 a CD. For a thousand it would have been less than $2.00.
 
I used DiskFactory for my last four CDs = and their=20 quality is outstanding. Going with a similar package, and ordering 100 = items,=20 DiskFactory would cost $2.70 a CD...and that doesn't even include the = UPC code,=20 which I buy from CD Baby.
 
I may go to this new company. Thanks,=20 Samba.
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Richard=20 Sales
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 = 5:13=20 PM
Subject: Re: cheap cd = publishing no=20 min.

The price isn't so great but no minimum order. That's = really=20 amazing!

There is some mystery about 'publishing' that I don't=20 understand. Did you read that part? What does it mean? I guess you'd = have to=20 go through the process to see the deal involved.

VERY=20 interesting.

richard = sales
glassWing farm and=20 studio
vancouver island, = b.c.
800.545.6846
250.752.4816
www.glassWing.com
www.richardsales.com
www.hayle= ysales.com
www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com
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------=_NextPart_000_09E9_01C72DDD.8770D6D0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 03:08:01 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A95CE3BECD; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 03:08:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-421513202 Message-Id: <7BFB3CF0-2DA2-4745-A5D9-D4B7AE9F36E2@finleysound.com> From: "Matthew F. McCabe" Subject: Re: cheap cd publishing no min. Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 19:07:54 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Authenticated-User: finleysound@fastermac.net X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 32, First 32, in=1, out=0, spam=0 ip=66.248.87.45 X-Originating-IP: 66.248.87.45 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 03:08:01 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-421513202 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed That does look like a good deal. Have you used them before, Samba? I'm always a little leery of trying an untrusted company. Matt --- King Never http://www.kingnever.com On Jan 1, 2007, at 3:47 PM, samba - wrote: > http://kunaki.com/Home.asp?cc=ks > > _________________________________________________________________ > Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio > powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001 > > --Apple-Mail-1-421513202 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 That does look like a good = deal.=A0 Have you used them before, Samba?=A0 I'm always a little=A0leery = of trying an untrusted company.

Matt

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On Jan 1, 2007, at 3:47 PM, samba - wrote:


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= --Apple-Mail-1-421513202-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 06:12:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 218CA3BECF; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 06:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=PFzWek4q5CJ42pklzB5xd1vQk+ReliQom3cyPK7eheKtoKRt0rr8W9qFAzQY1sPoBc3aO8vlwk8CKAsUwncHQ8D6itcU06qULKNxXxas52tBNsVHEiDmC27PLIYjLDFuJOG9yTaqxi0UVYyaPC6Liz1Ff5DKgSeQnco0SV1M7zg=; X-YMail-OSG: VNS5BcAVM1lfndKmS3Y5tvC3cPccx9QRDCSmhVPni3SDvCxPr0RocL1mQSRvWqMkgG2T3T2XJfi.hsvfa3t5BpLRKZh.SIxzC5Ha6Q2P2BPWuYQlK90eVANh0tJN3cx3xpHvh2ppbamYGfQ- Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 22:12:03 -0800 (PST) From: mark sottilaro Subject: OT: converting midi aftertouch to pitchbend (In Live) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000001c72dfc$82b3f9f0$1001a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <340563.84545.qm@web81301.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 06:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Hey, Today I was trying to get aftertouch to control the pitchbend of a sitar patch in MOTU's Ethno Instrument and I realize that it only recognizes aftertouch for modulation. Setting it to a really deep yet slow fq kind of gives me what I want, but I'd love to be able to do a reassign in real time. Digital Performer has a MIDI plug in that does it, but Live doesn't seem to. Is there an aftermarket simple vst that can help me? M __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 07:28:58 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6140E3BECD; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 07:28:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.246.45.95] X-Originating-Email: [sambacomet@hotmail.com] X-Sender: sambacomet@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <42815E9A-4320-4DAD-A1A9-3AB8FB5F678E@tuninghawaii.com> From: "samba -" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: ot: old horns metal acoustics Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 23:28:51 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jan 2007 07:28:55.0410 (UTC) FILETIME=[A8DB2520:01C72E3F] Resent-Message-ID: <493qt.A.34E.6mgmFB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 07:28:58 +0000 (UTC) Following are comments on the discussion of woodwinds changing over time,from my friend Steven Rosenthal,who is an instrument builder/inventor,and piano tuner.He also makes giant musical sculptures,plays insane oboe,and was a member w/ Darell DeVore ,of the original Future Primitive ensemble. "Looks like the familiar tendency to get caught up in minutia and a lack of precise definitions. One being whether "aging" refers to metallurgical flaws (Ostwald ripening), or a global change in the material (Jake Ruby fermentation?). I doubt the composition of the brass is going to change, but if the instrument is not well made the lack of uniformity, in wall stiffness for example, could lead to stability problems. In general errors tend to accumulate in instrument construction and their effects thus become compounded, and interrelated, so it can be hard to diagnose symptoms. All things being equal (make and model), reeds, mouthpieces, the players' disposition, etc. have much larger effects on the characteristics of an instrument. The extreme instruments made by Herr Eppelsheim are bound to be fraught with problems owing to the large amount of of surface area in the low instruments and the super high tolerances required for a piccolo sax. He certainly to want to have as many constants as possible such as uniform materials, even still he must be constantly flirting with the impossible to make good musical instrument. He must be a saint or a lunatic if not both." _________________________________________________________________ Experience the magic of the holidays. Talk to Santa on Messenger. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0080000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/santabot/default.aspx?locale=en-us From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 09:15:22 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B51E83BEC7; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 09:15:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: sean@seanmormelo.com via t7.hostbaby.com X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.25 (Clear:RC:1(75.80.45.68):. Processed in 0.085887 secs) Message-ID: <009e01c72e4e$8989ba60$6501a8c0@SEANDELL> Reply-To: "Sean Mormelo" From: "Sean Mormelo" To: References: <7BFB3CF0-2DA2-4745-A5D9-D4B7AE9F36E2@finleysound.com> Subject: Re: cheap cd publishing no min. Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 00:15:24 -0900 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009B_01C72E03.192F7A70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 09:15:22 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009B_01C72E03.192F7A70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mathew, I've used them for 3 projects so far...Fast turn around and the = product looks good. If your graphics and layout are good, you'll have a = good looking product. Sean Mormelo www.seanmormelo.com www.myspace.com/seanmormelo EPK- www.sonicbids.com/seanmormelo www.CDbaby.com/seanmormelo ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Matthew F. McCabe=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 6:07 PM Subject: Re: cheap cd publishing no min. That does look like a good deal. Have you used them before, Samba? = I'm always a little leery of trying an untrusted company. Matt --- King Never http://www.kingnever.com On Jan 1, 2007, at 3:47 PM, samba - wrote: http://kunaki.com/Home.asp?cc=3Dks _________________________________________________________________ Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio = powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=3DT002MSN03A07001 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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Mathew, I've used them for 3 projects = so far...Fast=20 turn around and the product looks good. If your graphics and layout are = good,=20 you'll have a good looking product.
 
Sean Mormelo
www.seanmormelo.com
www.myspace.com/seanmormelo
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Subject: Re: cheap cd = publishing no=20 min.

That does look like a good deal.  Have you used = them=20 before, Samba?  I'm always a little leery of trying an = untrusted=20 company.

Matt

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 15:49:43 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A634F3BECD; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 15:49:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-Id: <0118dbc9b1f769191f55a150a7681f61@mac.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-467216627 From: Paul Mimlitsch Subject: kunaki CD publishing Fwd: mac question Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:49:37 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-Brightmail-scanned: yes X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=4.65.5446:2.3.11,1.2.37,4.0.164 definitions=2007-01-02_06:2006-12-29,2006-12-29,2007-01-02 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx engine=3.1.0-0612050001 definitions=main-0701020012 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 15:49:43 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-467216627 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed response to my question concerning Mac computers: Begin forwarded message: > From: Kunaki - Customer Service > Date: January 2, 2007 4:16:47 AM MST > To: Paul Mimlitsch > Subject: Re: mac question > Reply-To: customerservice@kunaki.com > > Dear Paul, > > You can design your artwork with the Mac. All the dimensions are in > http://Kunaki.com/scripts/help.htm. > > Then, you will have to borrow a PC for a few hours. Download our > software (click > the 'New Customer' tab in http://Kunaki.com) and follow the simple > steps. > > > > On Mon Jan 1 21:26 , Paul Mimlitsch sent: > >> From the frequently asked questions page you write "... you can use >> your favorite Mac or PC software to design disc, case, insert graphic >> files..." . After doing this how is the upload/ submittal process >> handled? Thanks. - Paul >> > > --Apple-Mail-1-467216627 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=US-ASCII response to my question concerning Mac computers: Begin forwarded message: 0000,0000,0000From: Kunaki - Customer Service < 0000,0000,0000Date: January 2, 2007 4:16:47 AM MST 0000,0000,0000To: Paul Mimlitsch < 0000,0000,0000Subject: Re: mac question 0000,0000,0000Reply-To: customerservice@kunaki.com Dear Paul, You can design your artwork with the Mac. All the dimensions are in http://Kunaki.com/scripts/help.htm. Then, you will have to borrow a PC for a few hours. Download our software (click the 'New Customer' tab in http://Kunaki.com) and follow the simple steps. On Mon Jan 1 21:26 , Paul Mimlitsch < sent: From the frequently asked questions page you write "... you can use your favorite Mac or PC software to design disc, case, insert graphic files..." . After doing this how is the upload/ submittal process handled? Thanks. - Paul --Apple-Mail-1-467216627-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 16:31:57 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1482C3BECF; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=tAPicuxU6DibpU7TG91/bIb2httD28pA2OraJGZE/tdyVjxhx9Y/pi3sD7EjqlAUCvay1BqS4KwWWjI1RI2uPiuCR/VDmWyrKSzTAAB5MPrnxZPvK/pJTb5u/DdPpEzMipCjXSrhJ77X6V1WAKw35v/sO4L73xQHC0XRmW8ilnk= ; Message-ID: <20070102163155.14205.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: p5s7kPkVM1mrqSB8ytV8fNtRQo5gkv469cT259keNu_KtwG0puD9BbF79O9h9m0sDRsyTYYOUGmdUJ.gSzXaDr60MPx0lKAXzvavx5DQuHDiidcEJ6ZFv6dkZVsDw34PfZEUbhtExgrMt6s- Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:31:55 -0800 (PST) From: margaret noble Subject: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <0118dbc9b1f769191f55a150a7681f61@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66744 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Hello List, I recently purchased a cheap tube pre-amp by Art for my autoharp. I couldn't believe because it seemed to sound as good as if not better then my Presonus pre-amp (which has no tube). Now, i have heard it to be widely accepted that many prefer tubes because they create a warmer sound. So i read a bit to see if i could understand why? I think in my most basic primitive grasp of the concept "tube" that the benefits are due to tube circuitry whereby a small distortion spectrum results which causes added harmonics???????<--am i on track???? But, as read further i learned that the main benefit comes from DH-Set "SE" configurations and that the "PP (push-pull)" configurations do substantially less of this "warming effect"???? so, i am wondering then, do all current technology tubes sound better/warmer then non-tube preamps? or are there only certain tubes that do this? how would i know technically (besides listening) if i have a SE tube or a PP tube from specs in my manual that read "Tube Type: 12AX7A hand selected"? I am just trying to decode this mystery so i don't dogmatically accept audio theory without knowing why. Any and all input would be great! THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR TIME! :-) Margaret Noble Audio Artist http://www.myspace.com/margaretnoble __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 16:36:21 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F37FC3BED0; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:36:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=yjwrqSndLzW3mn94k/jTh5H6sDxg1Gu05gX5z36eN8koj2/wfBtlOglpPawP7xzFP54Mbw6C2ZnmE53EdslzYbr57ebb6QH1iJjE7EiEcjJKbfbcReFxETiQXpBPZJE0SCLI++6JJ4HGqSOmSDUPnv4NZ/6mAYWFNwmW2vZWUrI=; X-YMail-OSG: T9Ac2O4VM1mXwyWh7FSb4T7X932Pwuhr8DL23aJu60j0Ag9g30t2h4h0UchJhyH2KfCNKKB7VlI.13kTwzVSEuLIWoXF2U4_AAaH1K_x9kl7OoXxYcrgNJxWXw_7v.tJ7boYHWEFCul3vg-- Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:36:18 -0800 (PST) From: SR Millis Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20070102163155.14205.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-331562158-1167755778=:23024" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <530253.23024.qm@web50908.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:36:20 +0000 (UTC) --0-331562158-1167755778=:23024 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, Margaret, Where did you get your tube pre-amp? Thanks, Scott margaret noble wrote: Hello List, I recently purchased a cheap tube pre-amp by Art for my autoharp. I couldn't believe because it seemed to sound as good as if not better then my Presonus pre-amp (which has no tube). --0-331562158-1167755778=:23024 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi, Margaret,
 
Where did you get your tube pre-amp?
 
Thanks,
Scott


margaret noble <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hello List,

I recently purchased a cheap tube pre-amp by Art for
my autoharp. I couldn't believe because it seemed to
sound as good as if not better then my Presonus
pre-amp (which has no tube).
--0-331562158-1167755778=:23024-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 16:44:05 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77E403BEDE; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:44:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=RRahgM0mWT/tWFTHU0p8uabz7XkVxOMniNn03yYvw+1gQ/1RcqFUq7CcTy6RmBuTvqFJJ2RO1RgkExTCIDTjXqYA0TJpnjEmfliC9nOHuRehivJHjO0u4lffYT0HJIsvjCdMOM4cKTO1RqCDgEylikVjWiE9g6EgfUUazrsMaio=; X-YMail-OSG: tijSXd4VM1mCSLWD4jf_SKW4F_YHcGxF1YiO_ZWL6UXQoX5y3uzeBoYTZWvJBF8gKyzkSc9b1RmAOcWQox1Wrlusp4RhwpVj9YOen76r3AhdBg89.h_xSWiCaOdY8bSOTjYTztorFWhT7Ts- Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:44:04 -0800 (PST) From: margaret noble Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <530253.23024.qm@web50908.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <165242.24715.qm@web81002.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:44:05 +0000 (UTC) i got it here: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/ART-Tube-MP-Project-Series-Tube-MicrophoneInstrument-Preamp?sku=180643 --- SR Millis wrote: > Hi, Margaret, > > Where did you get your tube pre-amp? > > Thanks, > Scott > > > margaret noble wrote: > Hello List, > > I recently purchased a cheap tube pre-amp by Art for > my autoharp. I couldn't believe because it seemed to > sound as good as if not better then my Presonus > pre-amp (which has no tube). > Margaret Noble Audio Artist http://www.myspace.com/margaretnoble __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Jan 2 16:59:26 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 63FB43BED0; Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:59:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v624) In-Reply-To: <20070102163155.14205.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070102163155.14205.qmail@web81009.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2-471392292 Message-Id: <5eb43a042b522d7981ac2f54d2083762@glasswing.com> From: Richard Sales Subject: Re: Tubes in Pre-amps: your expertise and honest opinion. Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 08:59:13 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.624) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/66747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2007 16:59:26 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-2-471392292 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed There's a company called, I THINK, 3D Audio that sells a CD with all of=20= the different pre amps and mics recorded in a pristine environment so=20 you can HEAR the sound of each pre and mic. That way you can listen=20 and make your own discoveries & judgments. I don't think a bad tube=20 mic pre is better than a quality solid state (SS) pre. Millennia makes=20= some very nice no tube pre's. Lots of folks do. And if you have a=20 tube mic many folks say it's best to run it into a SS mic pre. That's=20= what I'm doing right now with my big tube mic and it sounds great. I have a little (relatively cheap - $600 USD) Chameleon mic pre that's=20= modeled after the old Neve and it is amazing. No tube. I have a=20 Summit mic pre with tube that's wonderful too. The Chameleon is more=20 transparent, clear. The Summit is fatter. Also have a Daking 4=20 channel no tube (modeled after the old Trident mic pre's) that's=20 somewhere in between! Just to confuse things... I haven't bought the 3D Audio CD but I've heard it's a mind blower=20 because some of the cheaper mic's and mic pre's sound as good as or=20 better than some of the very expensive ones. Might be worth investing=20= in if you're shopping for stuff. That way you're making a very=20 educated decision based on your ears. There's lots of opinions out=20 there but each is tailored to the individual's needs and tastes... or=20 what they're selling. Ah! Here's the link: http://www.3daudioinc.com/ richard sales glassWing farm and studio vancouver island, b.c. 800.545.6846 250.752.4816 www.glassWing.com www.richardsales.com www.hayleysales.com www.blueberryfieldsfarm.com On 2-Jan-07, at 8:31 AM, margaret noble wrote: > Hello List, > > I recently purchased a cheap tube pre-amp by Art for > my autoharp. I couldn't believe because it seemed to > sound as good as if not better then my Presonus > pre-amp (which has no tube). > > Now, i have