From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 01:05:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA25157; Tue, 1 May 2001 01:03:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 01:03:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [4.35.108.56] From: "Professor Vast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RE filters Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 22:01:23 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2001 05:01:23.0818 (UTC) FILETIME=[C4FB64A0:01C0D1FB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6609 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" > >db wrote: >"anyone use the Electrix Filter Queen and/or Factory? I have a filter >queen>and i love her." > > >I adore my Electrix Filter Factory. I bought both the Filter Queen and >the>Filter Factory to compare them and then returned the >Filter Queen. If you've got the dough to afford it, it really rocks, >especially for Live Looping Artists because of it's ability to synd LFO >speeds to midi in/and/or send out LFO 'clock' to midi ready loopers. >try it, you'll like it, yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) > the reason that the queen won out for me is that because i'm a guitarist and the queen has an expression pedal input that the factory doesn't. i like being able to tweak the freq while making strange noises on the guitar. this way i got both hands free to work the gtr while messing with the freq with me foot. db _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 02:23:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA26406; Tue, 1 May 2001 02:21:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 02:21:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 23:18:56 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Lou Harrison In-reply-to: <5.0.2.1.0.20010430180117.029ba2f0@tyranny.egregious.net> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010430180117.029ba2f0@tyranny.egregious.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6610 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 6:20 PM -0700 4/30/01, Catharsis wrote: >>Did you talk to Lou Harrison? How is he doing? > >In passing yes.. I am new to this area, so I basically smiled and >said, "hello". He seems to be doing well for being 84 or 85. Lou is a truly great person. I've known him since 1976 when I audited his class in world music at San Jose State, and until the early '90s I'd see him every summer at the Cabrillo Music Festival. He recently lost his life partner, Bill Colvig, so it's good to know he's carrying on with energy and good spirit. >Say, I just came across a small quote from you in Joel Chadabe's >Electric Sound. Heh heh.. It is funny as when I read it I thought, >"hey, I know that guy: he is a looper!" ;) If you hang out long enough you eventually end up in books. I have small mentions in a couple of them, in connection with my Max programming. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 08:17:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA01973; Tue, 1 May 2001 08:14:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 08:14:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 08:14:22 -0400 Subject: anti-clockwise From: Steve Sandberg To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200104302334.TAA14000@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3071549662_5494067_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6611 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3071549662_5494067_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit the pink pony presents anti:clockwise saturday may 4 10.00 pm May 4 is a Friday -- is it Friday or Saturday night? --MS_Mac_OE_3071549662_5494067_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable anti-clockwise
the pink pony presents

anti:clockwise

saturday may 4  10.00 pm


May 4 is a Friday -- is it Friday or Saturday night?

 --MS_Mac_OE_3071549662_5494067_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 09:17:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA03735; Tue, 1 May 2001 09:15:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 09:15:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 09:13:21 EDT Subject: godin glissentar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e1.13eb2be1.28201071_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: <4pZlR.A.J6.Var76@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6612 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_e1.13eb2be1.28201071_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit a nice review of this neat sounding ax at www.harmony-central.com just one more thing i need.....:).....michael --part1_e1.13eb2be1.28201071_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit a nice review of this neat sounding ax at www.harmony-central.com
just one more thing i need.....:).....michael --part1_e1.13eb2be1.28201071_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 09:50:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA04322; Tue, 1 May 2001 09:48:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 09:48:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001f01c0d244$fd7fe3c0$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au> From: "Jeff van Dyck" To: References: <000e01c0d164$48947ec0$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: Logic Audio Loops Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:45:31 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6613 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Matthias, I was thinking the other day about Logic Audio's live inputs and some delays....well the verdict is...a very cool software looper system! Using plugins, I started with a noise gate on the input, then assigned 4 buss sends, each to a separate instance of a Waves SuperTap 2 Tap Delay...On the delays, I turned on one tap and had it at 8 1/4 notes delay, with 100% feedback with the same amount of delay...so by enabling any of the 4 buss sends on the input, I can record an audio loop, and then mute one of the delays if I want to. I can even add other plugins, without disturbing the loop. It's really quite amazing. The result is a live 4 track infinite audio loop that syncs to midi. Latency is a non issue on my Mac G3 300. This is a great example of how flexible Logic can be. Cheers, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthias Grob" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 7:34 AM Subject: Re: Logic Audio Loops > >I'm very interested in your application. I have yet to find a software > >looper that actually works the way I think it should. I was able to make > >Logic Audio work as a great looper though, in sync with midi and everything, > > Jeff, > > Did you ever explain to us what you can do? I find that very interesting. > > After all, there is a PowerBook G3 on the way here! > > And lately I heard from several people that the ended up liking Logic > better than Performer for the flexibility. > Would you say that what you do with Logic is impossible with any other App? > > Thank you > Matthias > -- > > > ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 12:31:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA10777; Tue, 1 May 2001 12:28:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 12:28:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010501122542.009fdad0@mail.pdfsystems.com> X-Sender: robert@mail.pdfsystems.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 12:27:11 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "anti:clockwise" Subject: anti:clockwise NYC DATE CORRECTION Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_5086656==_.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6614 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --=====================_5086656==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed oh, rats. i HATE when i does thats... a:c @ pink pony on SATURDAY nite which is may 5 as in f-i-v-e, the first saturday of may in 2001, and which coincidentally is also alright for fighting. it's also alright for lighting. i did not mention that again i have the amazing good fortune to be accompanied by visualist chris jordan at this show. xo rbrt originally i had said: >the pink pony presents > >anti:clockwise > >saturday may xx 10.00 pm and you asked : >May 4 is a Friday -- is it Friday or Saturday night? ++++++++ just what the world needs.... another frikkin url --=====================_5086656==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" oh, rats. i HATE when i does thats...



a:c @ pink pony on
SATURDAY nite which is
may 5 as in f-i-v-e, the first saturday of may in 2001,
and which coincidentally is also alright for fighting.

it's also alright for lighting. i did not mention that again
i have the amazing good fortune to be accompanied by
visualist chris jordan at this show.

xo
rbrt

originally i had said:

>the pink pony presents
>
>anti:clockwise
>
>saturday may xx 10.00 pm

and you asked :

>May 4 is a Friday -- is it Friday or Saturday night?


++++++++
just what the world needs....
another frikkin url
--=====================_5086656==_.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 12:49:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11208; Tue, 1 May 2001 12:47:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 12:47:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: KILLINFO@aol.com Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 12:44:45 EDT Subject: OT Alesis Crash & Burn To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: <3y1Bg.A.6tC.dgu76@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6615 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Anybody heard any news about Alesis filing Chapter 11? Kinda sad news to hear from the folks that single-handedly gave us the ADAT. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 14:00:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13711; Tue, 1 May 2001 13:57:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 13:57:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AEEF8AE.A714DB42@zerocrossing.net> Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 10:55:58 -0700 X-Sybari-Trust: 789aecad 050014e1 00000000 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Alesis Crash & Burn References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6616 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yeah, I called a local Guitar Center inquiring about the Alesis Air Synth (which was due out yesterday) and was told that Alesis was probably no more. ? What does that mean? I don't know. Are there a few palettes of Air Synths sitting on a dock somewhere that will never see the light of day? (the IR end of the spectra, especially) Sure would be a shame, I agree. I noticed a lot of dead links on their website, could be a sign. I'm sure they'll be bought up by Gibson in any case. Mark KILLINFO@aol.com wrote: > Anybody heard any news about Alesis filing Chapter 11? > Kinda sad news to hear from the folks that single-handedly gave us the ADAT. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 14:16:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA15170; Tue, 1 May 2001 14:13:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 14:13:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3AEEF8AE.A714DB42@zerocrossing.net> References: <3AEEF8AE.A714DB42@zerocrossing.net> Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 14:12:47 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: OT Alesis Crash & Burn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <-EepKB.A.nsD.qyv76@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6617 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Yeah, I called a local Guitar Center inquiring about the Alesis Air Synth >(which was due out yesterday) and was told that Alesis was probably no more. >? What does that mean? I don't know. Are there a few palettes of Air Synths >sitting on a dock somewhere that will never see the light of day? (the IR end >of the spectra, especially) Sure would be a shame, I agree. I noticed a lot >of dead links on their website, could be a sign. I'm sure they'll >be bought up >by Gibson in any case. so where does one find these things out for sure? is there a good music industry news website that would have this stuff?? /t ...electronic a cappella madness ......... ...extreme internet radio ... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 15:23:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA17459; Tue, 1 May 2001 15:21:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:21:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:19:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Luke Davis X-Sender: ldavis@unix01 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Alesis Crash & Burn In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6618 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com All Access some times carries that sort of information (not always, by far). http://www.allaccess.com Regards, Luke On Tue, 1 May 2001, Tom Ritchford wrote: > >Yeah, I called a local Guitar Center inquiring about the Alesis Air Synth > >(which was due out yesterday) and was told that Alesis was probably no more. > >? What does that mean? I don't know. Are there a few palettes of Air Synths > >sitting on a dock somewhere that will never see the light of day? (the IR end > >of the spectra, especially) Sure would be a shame, I agree. I noticed a lot > >of dead links on their website, could be a sign. I'm sure they'll > >be bought up > >by Gibson in any case. > > so where does one find these things out for sure? > > is there a good music industry news website that would > have this stuff?? > > /t > > > ...electronic a cappella madness ......... > ...extreme internet radio ... > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 16:36:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA20048; Tue, 1 May 2001 16:33:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:33:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <40.aee6a43.28207749@aol.com> Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:32:09 EDT Subject: alesis stuff from harmony-central To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_40.aee6a43.28207749_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6619 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_40.aee6a43.28207749_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en =20 =20 =20 Alesis Reorganization Underway April 4, 2001 -- The Alesis Corporation announced a company-wide=20 restructuring in an effort to refocus on its core business and ensure a=20 smooth launch of their newly introduced product line.=20 Jim Mack, Alesis Vice President of Sales and Marketing said, "A very=20 aggressive new product plan coupled with slower than expected sales of our=20 current line have forced us to make targeted cutbacks in order to secure our= =20 position in the marketplace. These streamlining efforts, while unfortunate,=20 guarantee the necessary resources for a strong product launch later this=20 spring." As part of the restructuring, Alesis announced they would be handing off two= =20 products to the original development partners. The Vipre All-Tube Mic Pre,=20 originally developed jointly by Alesis and Groove Tubes under Alesis=E2=80= =99 GT=20 Electronics brand, will now be manufactured and marketed solely by Groove=20 Tubes.=20 As part of this agreement, the GT Electronics brand will remain at Alesis an= d=20 will continue to market the AM series tube and FET studio recording=20 microphones. Jim Mack relates, "While we are very excited by the response to= =20 Vipre, it also represents a new direction for us at a time when we need to=20 focus on our strengths."=20 Alesis will also be handing off the DMPro Drum Kit to HART Dynamics. HART=20 will now assume all sales and marketing responsibilities for the product.=20 John Maier, Director of Marketing Communication said, "Hart Dynamics=E2=80= =99 entire=20 operation is focused on the drumming community in general and the electronic= =20 drum kit market specifically. The DM Pro Kit will be better served under thi= s=20 new scenario. "=20 The DMPro Drum Module will not be affected by this change and will still be=20= a=20 part of the Alesis Digital Drum Product line. Alesis also announced there would be targeted layoffs as part of this=20 reorganization. While most of the cutbacks were centered in the company=E2= =80=99s=20 manufacturing and warehousing division, there were also limited cutbacks in=20 the sales, marketing and administrative areas. The company also announced talks with prospective investors and business=20 partners in an effort to ensure the product plan for 2001 is carried out on=20 schedule. Jim Mack said, "Our current product plan is arguably the most=20 aggressive in the companies history. These products represent the latest in=20 Alesis proprietary chip technology. We felt that bringing in outside partner= s=20 at this time would ensure that these new products and technologies can all=20 come to market simultaneously rather than over the course of the next few=20 years." On the heels of a new marketing campaign dubbed, "The Re-Evolution of Music,= "=20 Alesis recently introduced fourteen new products within a four month period.= =20 Among the new innovations is the groundbreaking trio of the A6 Andromeda 16=20 voice real analog synthesizer, the ADAT HD24 hard disk recorder and the=20 ProLinear 820 Customizable DSP studio monitors.=20 Also introduced were entirely new product categories including the airFX and= =20 airSynth motion controlled S/FX devices, as well as the 400 series digital=20 processors, RA series amplifiers, and Ineko personal effects processor.=20 For more information, visit their web site at www.alesis.com. =20 --part1_40.aee6a43.28207749_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en =20

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products to the original development partners. The Vipre All-Tube Mic Pr= e,=20
originally developed jointly by Alesis and Groove Tubes under Alesis=E2= =80=99 GT=20
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focus on our strengths."=20
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part of the Alesis Digital Drum Product line.
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reorganization. While most of the cutbacks were centered in the company= =E2=80=99s=20
manufacturing and warehousing division, there were also limited cutbacks= in=20
the sales, marketing and administrative areas.
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partners in an effort to ensure the product plan for 2001 is carried out= on=20
schedule. Jim Mack said, "Our current product plan is arguably the most=20
aggressive in the companies history. These products represent the latest= in=20
Alesis proprietary chip technology. We felt that bringing in outside par= tners=20
at this time would ensure that these new products and technologies can a= ll=20
come to market simultaneously rather than over the course of the next fe= w=20
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voice real analog synthesizer, the ADAT HD24 hard disk recorder and the=20
ProLinear 820 Customizable DSP studio monitors.=20
Also introduced were entirely new product categories including the airFX= and=20
airSynth motion controlled S/FX devices, as well as the 400 series digit= al=20
processors, RA series amplifiers, and Ineko personal effects processor.=20
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--part1_40.aee6a43.28207749_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 16:53:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA20458; Tue, 1 May 2001 16:51:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:51:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010501205044.65806.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 13:50:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Subject: Re: Logic Audio Loops To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <001f01c0d244$fd7fe3c0$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6620 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Jeff, Can the enabling of the buss sends or muting of the tracks or delays be accomplished through midi (foot pedal, for instance)? Can you envision how a similar Logic setup could be created to do this for midi looping? The reason I'm asking is that I'm seriously toying with the idea of switching from Windoze/Cakewalk to Mac/Logic, and before I do, I'd like to understand Logic's midi looping / midi control capabilities for live usage. Thanks, stephen --- Jeff van Dyck wrote: > Matthias, > > I was thinking the other day about Logic Audio's > live inputs and some > delays....well the verdict is...a very cool software > looper system! > > Using plugins, I started with a noise gate on the > input, then assigned 4 > buss sends, > each to a separate instance of a Waves SuperTap 2 > Tap Delay...On the > delays, I turned on one tap and had it at 8 1/4 > notes delay, with > 100% feedback with the same amount of delay...so by > enabling any of > the 4 buss sends on the input, I can record an audio > loop, and then > mute one of the delays if I want to. I can even add > other plugins, without > disturbing the loop. It's really quite amazing. > > The result is a live 4 track infinite audio loop > that syncs to midi. > Latency is a non issue on my Mac G3 300. > > This is a great example of how flexible Logic can > be. > > Cheers, > Jeff ===== Stephen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 17:38:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA22347; Tue, 1 May 2001 17:35:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 17:35:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Neil Goldstein" To: Subject: RE: Logic Audio Loops Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 14:33:14 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20010501205044.65806.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6621 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Logic is very deep and powerful in its control potential, esp with midi, with real-time features that are very cool. Esp neat is the ability to trigger different sequences in real-time via midi note ons. A great resource is the mail-list and archives at yahoo groups. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-users And there's several links at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/logic-users/links All the audio and midi mixer settings are controllable via midi. Its just a matter of rolling up your sleeves to learn the system. one of the beauties of Logic is how you can easily transform any midi message to another for control, so you don't have to fudge around with your hardware foot pedals or sliders much, you simply map the msgs to whatever you desire and route via patchcords to audio channels and/or midi instrument channels in Logics Environment. The main problem I've found is the seduction of all the softsynths, VST effects and especially the EXS24 sampler that runs in Logic. These are incredible tools, irresistable and addictive and the NEW paradigm for electronic music. And these are demanding on CPU cycles in the computer. I need a new computer. Neil > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen [mailto:dakshah@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 1:51 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Logic Audio Loops > > > Jeff, > > Can the enabling of the buss sends or muting of the > tracks or delays be accomplished through midi (foot > pedal, for instance)? > > Can you envision how a similar Logic setup could be > created to do this for midi looping? > > The reason I'm asking is that I'm seriously toying > with the idea of switching from Windoze/Cakewalk to > Mac/Logic, and before I do, I'd like to understand > Logic's midi looping / midi control capabilities for > live usage. > > Thanks, > > stephen > > --- Jeff van Dyck wrote: > > Matthias, > > > > I was thinking the other day about Logic Audio's > > live inputs and some > > delays....well the verdict is...a very cool software > > looper system! > > > > Using plugins, I started with a noise gate on the > > input, then assigned 4 > > buss sends, > > each to a separate instance of a Waves SuperTap 2 > > Tap Delay...On the > > delays, I turned on one tap and had it at 8 1/4 > > notes delay, with > > 100% feedback with the same amount of delay...so by > > enabling any of > > the 4 buss sends on the input, I can record an audio > > loop, and then > > mute one of the delays if I want to. I can even add > > other plugins, without > > disturbing the loop. It's really quite amazing. > > > > The result is a live 4 track infinite audio loop > > that syncs to midi. > > Latency is a non issue on my Mac G3 300. > > > > This is a great example of how flexible Logic can > > be. > > > > Cheers, > > Jeff > > > ===== > Stephen > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 17:51:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA22925; Tue, 1 May 2001 17:48:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 17:48:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AEF5807.AAE1D6C9@home.com> Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 17:42:47 -0700 From: Will Brake Organization: Soul Fruit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Alesis Crash & Burn References: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------10E22D56EC138FD1FDB25388" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6622 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------10E22D56EC138FD1FDB25388 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alesis has officially filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy. They must have put too much into the development of the new products!? More information to follow as I get it. Be Well Will Brake Soul Fruit Luke Davis wrote: > > All Access some times carries that sort of information (not always, by > far). > > http://www.allaccess.com > > Regards, > > Luke > > On Tue, 1 May 2001, Tom Ritchford wrote: > > > >Yeah, I called a local Guitar Center inquiring about the Alesis Air Synth > > >(which was due out yesterday) and was told that Alesis was probably no more. > > >? What does that mean? I don't know. Are there a few palettes of Air Synths > > >sitting on a dock somewhere that will never see the light of day? (the IR end > > >of the spectra, especially) Sure would be a shame, I agree. I noticed a lot > > >of dead links on their website, could be a sign. I'm sure they'll > > >be bought up > > >by Gibson in any case. > > > > so where does one find these things out for sure? > > > > is there a good music industry news website that would > > have this stuff?? > > > > /t > > > > > > ...electronic a cappella madness ......... > > ...extreme internet radio ... > > > > --------------10E22D56EC138FD1FDB25388 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="wbrake.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Will Brake Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="wbrake.vcf" begin:vcard n:Brake;Will tel;cell:248-763-1103 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.soul-fruit.com org:Soul Fruit adr:;;2900 Rochester Road;Royal Oak;Michigan;48073;USA version:2.1 email;internet:wbrake@home.com title:http://www.soul-fruit.com fn:Will Brake end:vcard --------------10E22D56EC138FD1FDB25388-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 17:51:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA22973; Tue, 1 May 2001 17:50:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 17:50:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PA5CALIO@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 17:48:22 EDT Subject: Making a hihat control pad To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cd.5fa1641.28208926_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6623 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_cd.5fa1641.28208926_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry if this is way off topic, but I'm building an electronic drumset. I've created a ten pad version of the octa pad and I'm making my own bass drum trigger. The thing that has me stumped is the hihat. Hihat control pedals cost a fare share of $$$ and my only alternative is a keyboard sustain pedal. I tried this, but it is not touch sensitive so there is only one velocity for the closing hihat sound. This isn't good. Does anyone know how I would go about making my own hihat control pedal that is touch sensitive. Or someway to make a keyboard sustain pedal touch sensitive. Thanks a bunch, PASCAL --part1_cd.5fa1641.28208926_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry if this is way off topic, but I'm building an electronic drumset.  I've
created a ten pad version of the octa pad and I'm making my own bass drum
trigger.  

The thing that has me stumped is the hihat.  Hihat control pedals cost a fare
share of $$$ and my only alternative is a keyboard sustain pedal.  I tried
this, but it is not touch sensitive so there is only one velocity for the
closing hihat sound.  This isn't good.

Does anyone know how I would go about making my own hihat control pedal that
is touch sensitive.  Or someway to make a keyboard sustain pedal touch
sensitive.  

Thanks a bunch,
PASCAL --part1_cd.5fa1641.28208926_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 18:14:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA24635; Tue, 1 May 2001 18:12:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:12:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:11:42 -0400 From: Floyd Miller Message-Id: <200105012211.SAA16459@portal.studiodust.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Alesis Crash & Burn Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6624 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I hope this is not the start of a trend like last year's Dotcom bust. wbrake wrote: > > Alesis has officially filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy. They must have > put too much into the development of the new products!? More information > to follow as I get it. > > Be Well > > Will Brake > Soul Fruit > > > [demime removed attachment of type text/x-vcard, named wbrake.vcf] > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 18:15:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA24693; Tue, 1 May 2001 18:13:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:13:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: matthias@pop.e-net.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001f01c0d244$fd7fe3c0$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au> References: <000e01c0d164$48947ec0$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au> <001f01c0d244$fd7fe3c0$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au> Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 19:17:27 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: Logic Audio Loops Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6625 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >I was thinking the other day about Logic Audio's live inputs and some >delays....well the verdict is...a very cool software looper system! > >Using plugins, I started with a noise gate on the input, then assigned 4 >buss sends, >each to a separate instance of a Waves SuperTap 2 Tap Delay...On the >delays, I turned on one tap and had it at 8 1/4 notes delay, with >100% feedback with the same amount of delay...so by enabling any of >the 4 buss sends on the input, I can record an audio loop, and then >mute one of the delays if I want to. I can even add other plugins, without >disturbing the loop. It's really quite amazing. Great, seems simple... and you have it all pedal controlled? How do you control the 4 FeedBacks? I just tried POLAR and thought that this would be my problem with it. How about the initial speed, you tap it? >The result is a live 4 track infinite audio loop that syncs to midi. >Latency is a non issue on my Mac G3 300. amazing... do you use it just for the delays or listen the original sound through it, too? Any special buffer... settings? >This is a great example of how flexible Logic can be. but as I understand, this could be done in some other app, too, right? Thank you for this report, Jeff... go ahead... Matthias > > >I'm very interested in your application. I have yet to find a software >> >looper that actually works the way I think it should. I was able to make >> >Logic Audio work as a great looper though, in sync with midi and >everything, >> >> Jeff, >> >> Did you ever explain to us what you can do? I find that very interesting. >> >> After all, there is a PowerBook G3 on the way here! >> >> And lately I heard from several people that the ended up liking Logic >> better than Performer for the flexibility. > > Would you say that what you do with Logic is impossible with other Apps? -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 18:24:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA25022; Tue, 1 May 2001 18:22:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:22:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004d01c0d28c$c4b31920$33156cd5@default> From: "Martin Shakeshaft" To: "Wind List." , Subject: Media player, where you can save the visualization to an .avi file? Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:18:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6626 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Does anyone know of a Windows program like WinAmp or Windows media player, where you can save the visualisation to an .avi file? I am doing a couple of solo wind-synth projects where I would like to add a visual element. I can do it in real time using a mic and winamp, but I would like to produce a cd/dvd -- Martin -- Martin Shakeshaft A child of five could understand this. Fetch me a child of five - Groucho Marx From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 18:29:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA25183; Tue, 1 May 2001 18:27:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:27:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001301c0d28e$d0921f00$8b9868d5@farrp> Reply-To: "robert.appleton3" From: "robert.appleton3" To: References: Subject: Re: Making a hihat control pad Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:33:05 +0100 Organization: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0D297.127C3B00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6627 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0D297.127C3B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi there. Maybe a Wah or Volume pedal could be used If you can make the = different resistance levels to trigger multiple Hi hat samples or = sustain rates. Unfortunately I am not even an electronics novice but = surely this is possible, Anyway just an idea, good luck Bobski ----- Original Message -----=20 From: PA5CALIO@aol.com=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 10:48 PM Subject: Making a hihat control pad Sorry if this is way off topic, but I'm building an electronic = drumset. I've=20 created a ten pad version of the octa pad and I'm making my own bass = drum=20 trigger. =20 The thing that has me stumped is the hihat. Hihat control pedals cost = a fare=20 share of $$$ and my only alternative is a keyboard sustain pedal. I = tried=20 this, but it is not touch sensitive so there is only one velocity for = the=20 closing hihat sound. This isn't good.=20 Does anyone know how I would go about making my own hihat control = pedal that=20 is touch sensitive. Or someway to make a keyboard sustain pedal touch = sensitive. =20 Thanks a bunch,=20 PASCAL=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0D297.127C3B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi there. Maybe a Wah or Volume pedal could be used If you can make = the=20 different resistance levels to trigger multiple Hi hat samples or = sustain=20 rates.  Unfortunately I am not even an electronics novice but = surely this=20 is possible,
Anyway just an idea, good luck
Bobski
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 PA5CALIO@aol.com=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 = 10:48=20 PM
Subject: Making a hihat control = pad

Sorry if this is way off topic, = but I'm=20 building an electronic drumset.  I've
created a ten pad = version of=20 the octa pad and I'm making my own bass drum
trigger.   =

The=20 thing that has me stumped is the hihat.  Hihat control pedals = cost a fare=20
share of $$$ and my only alternative is a keyboard sustain pedal. =  I=20 tried
this, but it is not touch sensitive so there is only one = velocity=20 for the
closing hihat sound.  This isn't good.

Does = anyone=20 know how I would go about making my own hihat control pedal that =
is touch=20 sensitive.  Or someway to make a keyboard sustain pedal touch=20
sensitive.  

Thanks a bunch,
PASCAL=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0D297.127C3B00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 18:55:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA25764; Tue, 1 May 2001 18:43:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:43:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001f01c0d28f$e5717c30$5f0218ac@jnpr.net> From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: , "Wind List." References: <004d01c0d28c$c4b31920$33156cd5@default> Subject: Re: Media player, where you can save the visualization to an .avi file? Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 15:41:38 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6628 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hypercam from www.hyperionics.com does that. I recorded 4 hours nonstop of winamp the other week, stress testing the software (and the hard drives :>) for my work. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Shakeshaft" To: "Wind List." ; Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 3:18 PM Subject: Media player, where you can save the visualization to an .avi file? > Does anyone know of a Windows program like WinAmp or Windows media player, > where you can save the visualisation to an .avi file? > > I am doing a couple of solo wind-synth projects where I would like to add a > visual element. I can do it in real time using a mic and winamp, but I > would like to produce a cd/dvd > > > -- > Martin > > -- > Martin Shakeshaft > > A child of five could understand this. Fetch me a child of five - Groucho > Marx > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 18:55:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA25850; Tue, 1 May 2001 18:46:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:46:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006701c0d290$5126e140$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au> From: "Jeff van Dyck" To: References: <20010501205044.65806.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Logic Audio Loops Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 08:44:44 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6630 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes they can, you just have to set it up in Logic's Environment. Bit of a learning curve, but very usefull to know. I use Logic for abosolutly everything...composition, movie posting, performing...and now looping. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 6:50 AM Subject: Re: Logic Audio Loops > Jeff, > > Can the enabling of the buss sends or muting of the > tracks or delays be accomplished through midi (foot > pedal, for instance)? > > Can you envision how a similar Logic setup could be > created to do this for midi looping? > > The reason I'm asking is that I'm seriously toying > with the idea of switching from Windoze/Cakewalk to > Mac/Logic, and before I do, I'd like to understand > Logic's midi looping / midi control capabilities for > live usage. > > Thanks, > > stephen > > --- Jeff van Dyck wrote: > > Matthias, > > > > I was thinking the other day about Logic Audio's > > live inputs and some > > delays....well the verdict is...a very cool software > > looper system! > > > > Using plugins, I started with a noise gate on the > > input, then assigned 4 > > buss sends, > > each to a separate instance of a Waves SuperTap 2 > > Tap Delay...On the > > delays, I turned on one tap and had it at 8 1/4 > > notes delay, with > > 100% feedback with the same amount of delay...so by > > enabling any of > > the 4 buss sends on the input, I can record an audio > > loop, and then > > mute one of the delays if I want to. I can even add > > other plugins, without > > disturbing the loop. It's really quite amazing. > > > > The result is a live 4 track infinite audio loop > > that syncs to midi. > > Latency is a non issue on my Mac G3 300. > > > > This is a great example of how flexible Logic can > > be. > > > > Cheers, > > Jeff > > > ===== > Stephen > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 19:04:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA25763; Tue, 1 May 2001 18:42:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:42:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 15:39:46 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Orville loops In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1223365563==_ma============" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6629 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1223365563==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Is anybody using an Eventide Orville for looping? Scott Gilfix has created a great many looping programs for it, and I made a 4-track looper that is also part of the factory set. These are all delay-based systems with options for pedal control. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz --============_-1223365563==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Orville loops
Is anybody using an Eventide Orville for looping?

Scott Gilfix has created a great many looping programs for it, and I made a 4-track looper that is also part of the factory set.  These are all delay-based systems with options for pedal control.
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--============_-1223365563==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 19:05:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA25999; Tue, 1 May 2001 18:53:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:53:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PA5CALIO@aol.com Message-ID: <25.14bd6f1f.28209810@aol.com> Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:52:00 EDT Subject: Making an electronic drum pad To: jon.wagner@stanfordalumni.org, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_25.14bd6f1f.28209810_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6631 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_25.14bd6f1f.28209810_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jon, It's actually quite easy to make the pads. I purchased piezo sensors off of ebay.com. ((If you know where to get piezo sensors in bulk please let me know)). Anyway, here's what I did: What you need: Open-celled foam rubber (mouse pad material) at least 1/8th inch thick. Plain sheet of rubber 1/8th inch thick Piezo buzzer element Rubber Cement. I took open-celled foam rubber and cut a little place for the sensor to fit in and for the connector wire. Then I took a sheet plain rubber cut the same size as the open-celled foam rubber and used the rubber cement to keep it on the foam rubber. I made sure to glue the piezo sensor to the rubber sheet so that it didn't bounce around in the space i had cut for it. I made ten of these and glued each one on to a plain piece of wood. The reason for the foam rubber is that it iolates each pad from the others, and keeps false triggering from occuring. That's how I did it. There are plenty of methods you can more out by just search drum triggers on google.com -Pascal --part1_25.14bd6f1f.28209810_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jon,
It's actually quite easy to make the pads.   I purchased piezo sensors off of
ebay.com.  ((If you know where to get piezo sensors in bulk please let me
know)).  Anyway, here's what I did:
What you need:
Open-celled foam rubber (mouse pad material) at least 1/8th inch thick.
Plain sheet of rubber 1/8th inch thick
Piezo buzzer element
Rubber Cement.

I took open-celled foam rubber and cut a little place for the sensor to fit
in and for the connector wire.  Then I took a sheet plain rubber cut the same
size as the open-celled foam rubber and used the rubber cement to keep it on
the foam rubber.  I made sure to glue the piezo sensor to the rubber sheet so
that it didn't bounce around in the space i had cut for it.  I made ten of
these and glued each one on to a plain piece of wood.  The reason for the
foam rubber is that it iolates each pad from the others, and keeps false
triggering from occuring.  

That's how I did it.  There are plenty of methods you can more out by just
search drum triggers on google.com

-Pascal    --part1_25.14bd6f1f.28209810_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 19:09:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA27247; Tue, 1 May 2001 18:59:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:59:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <007501c0d292$3b24cea0$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au> From: "Jeff van Dyck" To: References: <000e01c0d164$48947ec0$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au> <001f01c0d244$fd7fe3c0$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: Logic Audio Loops Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 08:58:26 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <96de4B.A.YZG.h-z76@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6632 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Great, seems simple... and you have it all pedal controlled? not yet. > How do you control the 4 FeedBacks? I've set them to 100% so they repeat infinitly. I can clear any of the delays by just bypassing that particular delay. If I want to mute a delay, I just mute the track that it's on. I can also solo that track...remixing on the fly is easy. > How about the initial speed, you tap it? I set it by typing a value, but the waves supertap plugin has a tap button on it. > amazing... do you use it just for the delays or listen the original > sound through it, too? I monitor through it too. > Any special buffer... settings? Keep the buffer as small as possible, it makes the latency go away. > but as I understand, this could be done in some other app, too, right? Yes, should be able to...but I'm not sure if the other apps will work as smoothly...anyone with Cubase wanna give this a go? Lastly, if there are any VST programmers out there...if one of you could make a simple really long stereo delay plugin that uses the tempo from the sequencer and has infinite feedback, this would work better than the waves supertap, as the waves plugin has a lot of extra features that aren't needed for looping. Would be great if you could set the length in bars. Cheers, Jeff > > > > >I'm very interested in your application. I have yet to find a software > >> >looper that actually works the way I think it should. I was able to make > >> >Logic Audio work as a great looper though, in sync with midi and > >everything, > >> > >> Jeff, > >> > >> Did you ever explain to us what you can do? I find that very interesting. > >> > >> After all, there is a PowerBook G3 on the way here! > >> > >> And lately I heard from several people that the ended up liking Logic > >> better than Performer for the flexibility. > > > Would you say that what you do with Logic is impossible with other Apps? > -- > > > ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 19:25:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA27827; Tue, 1 May 2001 19:23:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 19:23:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002a01c0d295$83b65aa0$0101a8c0@pavilion> From: "Brian Mulvey" To: References: <3AEF5807.AAE1D6C9@home.com> Subject: Re: OT Alesis Crash & Burn Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 19:21:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6633 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Just great. Now the Andromeda will NEVER be affordable. > Alesis has officially filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy. They must have > put too much into the development of the new products!? More information > to follow as I get it. > > Be Well > > Will Brake > Soul Fruit > > Luke Davis wrote: > > > > All Access some times carries that sort of information (not always, by > > far). > > > > http://www.allaccess.com > > > > Regards, > > > > Luke > > > > On Tue, 1 May 2001, Tom Ritchford wrote: > > > > > >Yeah, I called a local Guitar Center inquiring about the Alesis Air Synth > > > >(which was due out yesterday) and was told that Alesis was probably no more. > > > >? What does that mean? I don't know. Are there a few palettes of Air Synths > > > >sitting on a dock somewhere that will never see the light of day? (the IR end > > > >of the spectra, especially) Sure would be a shame, I agree. I noticed a lot > > > >of dead links on their website, could be a sign. I'm sure they'll > > > >be bought up > > > >by Gibson in any case. > > > > > > so where does one find these things out for sure? > > > > > > is there a good music industry news website that would > > > have this stuff?? > > > > > > /t > > > > > > > > > ...electronic a cappella madness ......... > > > ...extreme internet radio ... > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 19:31:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA28048; Tue, 1 May 2001 19:30:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 19:30:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002a01c0d295$83b65aa0$0101a8c0@pavilion> References: <3AEF5807.AAE1D6C9@home.com> <002a01c0d295$83b65aa0$0101a8c0@pavilion> Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 19:29:55 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: OT Alesis Crash & Burn Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6634 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Just great. Now the Andromeda will NEVER be affordable. funny, I was thinking just the reverse... now I can get an Andromeda at fire-sale prices! /t ...electronic a cappella madness ......... ...extreme internet radio ... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 19:32:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA28060; Tue, 1 May 2001 19:31:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 19:31:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:29:53 -0700 From: Andrew Pask Subject: Re: Logic Audio Loops To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <007501c0d292$3b24cea0$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: <20010501162954-r01010600-1b2c7b11@192.168.1.1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.1.6 (Bluto) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6635 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On 5/2/01 at 8:58 AM, jdyck@bigpond.net.au (Jeff van Dyck) wrote: > Lastly, if there are any VST programmers out there...if one of you could > make a simple really long stereo delay plugin that uses the tempo from the > sequencer and has infinite feedback, this would work better than the waves > supertap, as the waves plugin has a lot of extra features that aren't needed > for looping. Would be great if you could set the length in bars. I think there are some issues regarding host-sync support from within Logic's VST implementation which could make this a little tricky, at least as far as writing VST plugins with MSP and pluggo goes. Hopefully Emagic will have this sorted out with Logic 5. I'm looking forward to Rewire with MSP 2. L8r A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 19:47:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA28431; Tue, 1 May 2001 19:44:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 19:44:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00c401c0d298$8cfe1e60$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au> From: "Jeff van Dyck" To: References: <20010501162954-r01010600-1b2c7b11@192.168.1.1> Subject: Re: Logic Audio Loops Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 09:43:40 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6636 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Andrew, I copied this off of the Emagic website... VST Plug-in Optimizations - VST 2.0 instruments can now receive VST clock information, making it possible to perfectly synchronize delays, LFOs and other effects to the song tempo. Note that the plug-in must request this information from Logic, and that not all plug-ins do this. Check with the plug-in manufacturer to see if this functionality applies to the particular plug-in used. - Internal programs of VST2.0 instruments can now be changed via standard program change commands. - The maximum number of VST plug-ins that can be installed has been increased. - "All notes off" message sent to Audio Instruments after pressing STOP. Seems they've fixed it eh? Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Pask" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 9:29 AM Subject: Re: Logic Audio Loops > On 5/2/01 at 8:58 AM, jdyck@bigpond.net.au (Jeff van Dyck) wrote: > > > Lastly, if there are any VST programmers out there...if one of you could > > make a simple really long stereo delay plugin that uses the tempo from the > > sequencer and has infinite feedback, this would work better than the waves > > supertap, as the waves plugin has a lot of extra features that aren't needed > > for looping. Would be great if you could set the length in bars. > > > I think there are some issues regarding host-sync support from within Logic's > VST implementation which could make this a little tricky, at least as far as > writing VST plugins with MSP and pluggo goes. Hopefully Emagic will have this > sorted out with Logic 5. I'm looking forward to Rewire with MSP 2. > > L8r > > A > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 20:42:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA30457; Tue, 1 May 2001 20:38:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 20:38:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 20:36:46 EDT Subject: Re: OT Alesis Crash & Burn To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6637 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Man, I really would hate to see Alesis go under. They've developed some really great and affordable products over the years. I still use my Alesis Quadraverb. I even have a Midiverb II in my rack (not hooked up though). Regards, Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 21:04:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA31947; Tue, 1 May 2001 21:01:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:01:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Jhsidlo@aol.com Message-ID: <6d.134a9ca1.2820b634@aol.com> Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:00:36 EDT Subject: CD Manufacturer To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6638 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello, I'm looking for a CD manufacturer with the best price. If anybody has any ideas please e-mail me privately. Thanks, James From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 21:07:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA32069; Tue, 1 May 2001 21:06:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:06:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PA5CALIO@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:05:09 EDT Subject: Re: Making an electronic drum pad To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ca.1464ada8.2820b745_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6639 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_ca.1464ada8.2820b745_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The hi hat idea sounds cool, but my intentions for my electronic set is to make as much like a real drum set but still staying as far away from the size and bulkiness of a drum set. So rigging up a real hi hat is not what I'm looking for. -Pascal --part1_ca.1464ada8.2820b745_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The hi hat idea sounds cool, but my intentions for my electronic set is to
make as much like a real drum set but still staying as far away from the size
and bulkiness of a drum set.  So rigging up a real hi hat is not what I'm
looking for.
-Pascal --part1_ca.1464ada8.2820b745_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 21:09:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA32205; Tue, 1 May 2001 21:08:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:08:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <01c101c0d2a4$1b875f60$44ab5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" Subject: EMUSIC Monthly Top 20 Report Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:05:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <6YJ5hC.A.o1H.W3176@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6640 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com WDIY 88.1 FM "EMUSIC" Top 20 report to New Age Voice and CD Revolutions for April, 2001. Shows #210 to #213; 29-March-2001 to 19-April-2001 Reported in non-ranked order. Compiled by Bill Fox, billfox@fast.net CONTACT: billfox@fast.net ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL ============================ Alpha Wave Movement & Jim Cole - Bislama - Spectral Spiral Baird Hersey - Waking the Cobra - Hersey Music Boddy, Reuter, & Mullaney - Triptych - DiN Dom F. Scab - Binary Sevrets - Groove Dweller at the Threshold - Advance CDR - none Free System Projekt & Dave Brewer - Okefenokee Dreams - Groove James Johnson - Entering Twilight - Hypnos James Johnson - Linger - SpaceForMusic.com James Johnson and Stephen Philips - Lost at Dunn's Lake - Zero Music Keller & Schowalder - The Reason Why - Manikin Navigator - Navigator II - not yet released Numina - CDR from the artist - none RAMP - Nodular - Manikin Robert Rich - Somnium - Hypnos Robert Scott Thompson - In Ruins - Aucourant Stephanie Sante - Immaculate Conceptions - mp3.com van Zyl, Gulch, & Rath- The Sound Museum - Groove Various Artists - ambient.01@hyperreal - none Victor Cerullo - Loneflyer - Groove Vir Unis - Pulse N Atmo - Groove Bill billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html ============================================================================ Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, send email to: emusic-wdiy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 21:09:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA32206; Tue, 1 May 2001 21:08:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:08:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PA5CALIO@aol.com Message-ID: <13.15243b49.2820b7bc@aol.com> Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:07:08 EDT Subject: Where can I get Piezo sensors and triggers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_13.15243b49.2820b7bc_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6641 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_13.15243b49.2820b7bc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I'm looking for piezo sensors both the buzzer kind and the strip. Does anyone know where I can get them? Radio Shack doesn't carry them anymore. -Pascal --part1_13.15243b49.2820b7bc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all,
I'm looking for piezo sensors both the buzzer kind and the strip.  Does
anyone know where I can get them?  Radio Shack doesn't carry them anymore.  
-Pascal --part1_13.15243b49.2820b7bc_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 21:50:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA00828; Tue, 1 May 2001 21:49:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:49:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AEF678D.2A8BF8CC@bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:49:11 -0400 From: steve Reply-To: studio_t@bellsouth.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Making an electronic drum pad References: <25.14bd6f1f.28209810@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <79LhHD.A.tK.yd276@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6642 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com yeah, I made my own pads as well, I used the remo tunable head practice pads for a pretty realistic feel although they do have a good bit of self noise the little 4" one makes a great kick drum pad I looked into making my own hat controller and well, naaaah I picked up one of the roland hat controllers on ebay for a very good deal and it works very well, I think it was @ $75 but hinestly I don't remember but it was definately one of those times when the time and energy spent on DIY didn't warrant the dollars saved the roland unit works great, check what its currently drawing in the used market and consider it peace, steve From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 22:05:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA02159; Tue, 1 May 2001 22:03:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:03:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:02:21 -0500 From: "Ted Geerdink" To: Subject: Re: OT Alesis Crash & Burn Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id WAA02129 Resent-Message-ID: <0AY69C.A.gh.Jr276@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6643 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In several months I plan on selling my Alesis Midiverb IV on Ebay for $1000 and then buying a new harddrive, a keyboard rack for my Casio SK-1's so I can look cool onstage with them, and maybe even a Casio SK-5. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 22:21:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA02880; Tue, 1 May 2001 22:19:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:19:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AEF6ED3.F36F7CE@bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 22:20:04 -0400 From: steve Reply-To: studio_t@bellsouth.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Where can I get Piezo sensors and triggers References: <13.15243b49.2820b7bc@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6644 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com you can get them from mouser electronics and most other sellors of electronic parts t From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 22:43:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA03267; Tue, 1 May 2001 22:41:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 22:41:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com.Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: From: "dave" Subject: Boss RC-20 Loop Station in stock and for sale Message-Id: <010501121.70804@webbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 19:40:20 -0700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6645 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I found the Loop Station for sale for $299 at musictoyz. I have had good experiences with them in the past. http://www.musictoystore.com/bosstwin.htm cheers, dave http://www.skyeklad.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 1 23:02:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA04780; Tue, 1 May 2001 23:01:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:01:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010501194529.00d5fd30@crash.cts.com> X-Sender: harvey@crash.cts.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 19:45:29 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Harvey Starr Subject: Re: Making an electronic drum pad In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6646 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, we make a little sensor gadget that fits under a real HH pedal that you can plug into a drum brain. It's a pressure sensor actually and can be played without the pedal itself. Might work for you? tnx, harveyS At 09:05 PM 5/1/01 EDT, you wrote: >The hi hat idea sounds cool, but my intentions for my electronic set is to >make as much like a real drum set but still staying as far away from the size > So rigging up a real hi hat is not what I'm >looking for. >-Pascal http://www.starrlabs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 00:03:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA05794; Tue, 1 May 2001 23:56:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:56:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <2loose@cv.quik.com.au> Message-ID: <000b01c0d2bb$ce9bacc0$0200a8c0@GregCampbell> From: "Alf" <2loose@cv.quik.com.au> To: References: Subject: Re: anti-clockwise Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 13:56:01 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0D30F.9F338DA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6647 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0D30F.9F338DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable anti-clockwiseunsubscribe me please ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Steve Sandberg=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 10:14 PM Subject: anti-clockwise the pink pony presents anti:clockwise saturday may 4 10.00 pm May 4 is a Friday -- is it Friday or Saturday night? ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0D30F.9F338DA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable anti-clockwise
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the pink pony=20 presents

anti:clockwise

saturday may 4  10.00=20 pm


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 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0D30F.9F338DA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 00:27:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA07383; Wed, 2 May 2001 00:20:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 00:20:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4B9A@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" , loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: RE: CD Manufacturer Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 23:19:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <0eaFV.A.VyB.er476@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6648 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com check out http://www.pncd-arts.com/ good prices even with shipping , they are a canadian company but decent product if you get 500 or more cd's, if you get cd-r's they don't have the time to dea with it. Ask for dave knill and tell him denis sent you, he usually can give you this special they run...Well I was pleased with their work anyway. Denis denis Taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocitieis.com http://www.dtguitar.com -----Original Message----- From: Jhsidlo@aol.com [mailto:Jhsidlo@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 8:01 PM To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: CD Manufacturer Hello, I'm looking for a CD manufacturer with the best price. If anybody has any ideas please e-mail me privately. Thanks, James From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 01:20:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA09317; Wed, 2 May 2001 01:17:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 01:17:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001b01c0d2c7$034a4de0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: OT Alesis Crash & Burn Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 06:16:09 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6649 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Somehow I don't think going Chapter 11 spells the end for Alesis. However I don't know how much less service any of us could get on our MIDIVerbs or Quadraverbs (I've got one of the latter since '92 and love it!), under this current situation. Alesis told me that they operate through Authorized Service Centers - third parties - and I doubt if they'll suddenly stop doing work on our beloved equipment. That knowledge on technicians' parts won't just go away either, so I don't think we have much to fear in the service area. Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 07:23:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA17360; Wed, 2 May 2001 07:16:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 07:16:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008301c0d2f9$e026c220$5f81e3a5@looppool> From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: References: <200105011350.JAA04380@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: Lou Harrison Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 04:20:20 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6650 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wow, how coincidental, I was just jamming with fellow Delightful Looper, Trey Donovan tonight and he mentioned that Lou is currently building a straw bale house somewhere up north. What an amazing, amazing human being! I love the suite he composed for John Cage's piece for Toy Piano. I also saw it at the inspiring Cabrillo Music Festival. Anybody know if it is recorded or not? Rick Walker (loop.pool) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 07:23:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA17457; Wed, 2 May 2001 07:21:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 07:21:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00e201c0d2fa$ae0b3180$5f81e3a5@looppool> From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: References: <200105020302.XAA04833@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re:Piezos Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 04:26:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <6Mou0D.A.mQE.R2-76@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6652 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Pascal wrote: "I'm looking for piezo sensors both the buzzer kind and the strip. Does anyone know where I can get them? Radio Shack doesn't carry them anymore." Au Contraire, mon frere!!!! I just bought some piezo buzzers from my local Radio Shack this week. Call around to a few stores, I'm sure you can still find them. If not, contact me and I'll try to pick some up for you. There cheap: maybe $3-$6 apiece. I'm at 412 Darwin Street Santa Cruz, California 95062-2629 You buy the buzzers, carefully break the plastic casing away and then disconnect the piezo element form the little circuit board. Connect to a female 1/4" connector and, voila, instant $100 guitar (or saz or ud or gopichancd) pickup. good luck, Rick Walker (loop.pool) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 07:26:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA17415; Wed, 2 May 2001 07:19:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 07:19:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010502111924.9551.qmail@web3504.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 04:19:24 -0700 (PDT) From: robert deveaux Subject: Re: Where can I get Piezo sensors and triggers To: studio_t@bellsouth.net Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3AEF6ED3.F36F7CE@bellsouth.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <-tENIC.A._PE.90-76@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6651 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com You can also just go to Radio Shack. Good Luck, --- steve wrote: > you can get them from mouser electronics and most > other sellors of > electronic parts > > t > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 09:32:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA18930; Wed, 2 May 2001 09:23:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 09:23:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AF03303.B48240EE@home.com> Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 09:17:07 -0700 From: Will Brake Organization: Soul Fruit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: CD Manufacturer References: <6d.134a9ca1.2820b634@aol.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------E4E352AD0E19C53F7D8FBC06" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6653 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------E4E352AD0E19C53F7D8FBC06 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Try http://www.brduplication.com/ They do good business and can help you out! Tell em' I sent ya! Be Well Will Brake Soul Fruit Jhsidlo@aol.com wrote: > > Hello, > I'm looking for a CD manufacturer with the best price. If anybody has any > ideas please e-mail me privately. > > Thanks, James --------------E4E352AD0E19C53F7D8FBC06 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="wbrake.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Will Brake Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="wbrake.vcf" begin:vcard n:Brake;Will tel;cell:248-763-1103 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.soul-fruit.com org:Soul Fruit adr:;;2900 Rochester Road;Royal Oak;Michigan;48073;USA version:2.1 email;internet:wbrake@home.com title:http://www.soul-fruit.com fn:Will Brake end:vcard --------------E4E352AD0E19C53F7D8FBC06-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 10:18:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA21997; Wed, 2 May 2001 10:16:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 10:16:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4B9E@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: OT Alesis Crash & Burn Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 09:16:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6654 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well alesis has not put out a new drum machine in at least 10 years if nto mroe. the sr-16 has been around for at least 10 years with no improvement or upgrade or new model. I am not surprised that they are declaring chapt.11 Denis Denis Taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com -----Original Message----- From: Stephen P. Goodman [mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 12:16 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Alesis Crash & Burn Somehow I don't think going Chapter 11 spells the end for Alesis. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 10:39:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23626; Wed, 2 May 2001 10:37:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 10:37:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AF01B9C.D962B4A1@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 10:37:19 -0400 From: steve Reply-To: studio_t@bellsouth.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Alesis Crash & Burn References: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4B9E@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6655 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com seemed to me alesis quit making drum machines around the time the demand for them dramatically dropped off, I thought switching to the DM series made sense for most folks. I suspect the decline in adat sales has more to do with it, there was a time when it was the ONLY affordable choice and every musician on a budget wanted one. I've always had mixed feeling about thier products but I would hate to see the co disappear they've been a positive force in the industry, w/o co's like alesis and mackie inovation suffers and prices rise. heres to hoping they stay afloat or restructure in a new form peace, t From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 11:34:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA25159; Wed, 2 May 2001 11:32:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:32:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010502113029.00a02750@mail.pdfsystems.com> X-Sender: robert@mail.pdfsystems.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 11:32:03 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "anti:clockwise" Subject: boomerang v.2 - another precinct heard from... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_387861==_.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6656 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --=====================_387861==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed if i may cite a source known to most w/out introduction... "i'm a believer, i couldn't leave her if i tried." a:c ++++++++ just what the world needs.... another frikkin url --=====================_387861==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
if i may cite a source known to most w/out introduction...

"i'm a believer,
i couldn't leave her
if i tried."

a:c

++++++++
just what the world needs....
another frikkin url
--=====================_387861==_.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 11:56:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA25793; Wed, 2 May 2001 11:54:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:54:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AF02DD0.516FD9C8@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 11:54:58 -0400 From: steve Reply-To: studio_t@bellsouth.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Korg DL8000R References: <010501121.70804@webbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7b7KzC.A.nSG.D2C86@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6657 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I do most of my looping in my studio using logic(great) but I've been wanting to put something in my live rig and I'm looking at the Korg DL8000R as a possible choice cause I also am very much into heavier delay efx and don't really need a full time dedicated live looper and don't really want a pedal does anyone here have any direct experience w/ one? either in use as a looper or as a delay? it appeals to me as a delay and if I can get a good part time looper out of it all the better been awhile since we had a question about looping gear eh? peace, steve From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 12:40:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA26707; Wed, 2 May 2001 12:36:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 12:36:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 09:29:13 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Lou Harrison In-reply-to: <008301c0d2f9$e026c220$5f81e3a5@looppool> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1223301367==_ma============" References: <200105011350.JAA04380@hemlock.violacea.com> <008301c0d2f9$e026c220$5f81e3a5@looppool> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6658 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1223301367==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 4:20 AM -0700 5/2/01, Rick Walker (loop.pool) wrote: >I love the suite he composed for John Cage's piece for Toy Piano... >Anybody know if it is recorded? On ECM New Series: John Cage - The Seasons Seventy-Four (Version I) The Seasons Concerto for prepared piano and Chamber Orchestra Seventy-Four (Version II) Suite for Toy Piano Suite for Toy Piano (Orchestration: Lou Harrison) American Composers Orchestra Dennis Russell, conductor Margaret Leng Tan: prepared piano, toy piano > I also saw it at the inspiring Cabrillo Music Festival. Or as some of us know it, "The formerly inspiring Cabrillo Music Festival." It hasn't been the same since Dennis left. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz --============_-1223301367==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Lou Harrison
At 4:20 AM -0700 5/2/01, Rick Walker (loop.pool) wrote:

I love the suite he composed for John Cage's piece for Toy Piano... Anybody know if it is recorded?

On ECM New Series:

John Cage - The Seasons
Seventy-Four (Version I)
The Seasons
Concerto for prepared piano and Chamber Orchestra
Seventy-Four (Version II)
Suite for Toy Piano
Suite for Toy Piano (Orchestration: Lou Harrison)

American Composers Orchestra
Dennis Russell, conductor
Margaret Leng Tan: prepared piano, toy piano


 I also saw it at the inspiring Cabrillo Music Festival.  

Or as some of us know it, "The formerly inspiring Cabrillo Music Festival."

It hasn't been the same since Dennis left.
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--============_-1223301367==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 14:41:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA31400; Wed, 2 May 2001 14:31:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 14:31:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: alex@postal.pixar.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <003901c0d195$0b2cedc0$0201a8c0@stephen> References: <000701c0cfe1$bd89f4a0$0201a8c0@stephen> <012501c0d18d$39702a60$080210ac@jpalmer> <003901c0d195$0b2cedc0$0201a8c0@stephen> Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:30:05 -0700 To: From: Alex Stahl Subject: Re: disrespecting softwares Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6659 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > If I made a film called "Can't Touch This" and didn't >expect trouble from both Jobete Music, Rick James, AND M.C. Hammer, >I'd be a total fool. > Oh, this reminds me to ask if anyone knows where to find the M.C. Hammer parody called "Didn't Write This". Less OT than Weird Al's "Can't Watch This", this version went something like "I didn't write this...call up the lawyers". From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 15:21:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA00928; Wed, 2 May 2001 15:19:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 15:19:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 12:01:05 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Plunderphonic (was "disrespecting softwares") In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <000701c0cfe1$bd89f4a0$0201a8c0@stephen> <012501c0d18d$39702a60$080210ac@jpalmer> <003901c0d195$0b2cedc0$0201a8c0@stephen> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6660 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com We've fairly well beaten the software piracy issue into the ground, but the recent reissue (in expanded form) of John Oswald's "Plunderphonic" CD invites discussion of the aesthetics, ethics, and legalities of quotation, sampling, deconstruction, and appropriation of musical material as a compositional strategy. Putting it out front - I'm a big fan of John Oswald and others who make new and interesting music by recycling existing recordings. I consider this sort of activity to be in a substantially different category from the sampling of bits and pieces that has caused so much controversy and litigation in the rap and dance music scene. I grant that it's a tough issue. Those familiar with Oswald know about the heat he took on the release of the original Plunderphonic CD, and you are probably also familiar with the Negativland U2 CD and the crushing retaliation that group suffered. It should be clear from past postings that I'm against software theft, and I'm inclined to extend that position to sampling of music for commercial gain. However, when audio quotation crosses the line into the realm of artistic collage and recontextualization I tend to lock up the cash register and think more in cultura, sociological, and aesthetic terms. Any thoughts? -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 15:59:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01687; Wed, 2 May 2001 15:56:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 15:56:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <000701c0cfe1$bd89f4a0$0201a8c0@stephen> <012501c0d18d$39702a60$080210ac@jpalmer> <003901c0d195$0b2cedc0$0201a8c0@stephen> Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 12:50:37 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: Plunderphonic (was "disrespecting softwares") Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6661 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >We've fairly well beaten the software piracy issue into the ground, >but the recent reissue (in expanded form) of John Oswald's >"Plunderphonic" CD yes, we have...but the last time around we did this, i got a link to a disc which i've enjoyed, and now i get to check out John Oswald. any links to his stuff? The disc i got before was Antediluvian Rocking Horse...very fun...completely recycled collage music. Imagine negativland with a dance beat. They are distributed through Seeland Records, the Negativland label. you can buy it online from them. http://www.negativland.com/nmol/mailordr.html >Any thoughts? in this day of incredibly easy digital repurposing (sp?), the whole 'collage' thing, to me, has less sting... would a Raushenburg or a Jasper Johns have the same impact if they were done post-Photoshop? the sheer amount of time and dedication to obtain and repurpose those images was part of what that art was. Eno and Byrne's "my life in the bush of ghosts" feels the same way. Some elements of that album would be downright easy these days. not the creative input, sure, but the technical issues. on the other hand, the democratization of the technical process of making music/art has an exciting element to it, too, IMO. rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 16:06:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA02909; Wed, 2 May 2001 16:04:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 16:04:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AF06856.B8A86F1B@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 16:04:56 -0400 From: steve Reply-To: studio_t@bellsouth.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Plunderphonic (was "disrespecting softwares") References: <000701c0cfe1$bd89f4a0$0201a8c0@stephen> <012501c0d18d$39702a60$080210ac@jpalmer> <003901c0d195$0b2cedc0$0201a8c0@stephen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <8J31UC.A.Dt.IgG86@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6662 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com seems to me its a dual issue; artistic and financial on the financial end if someone uses thier resources(talent, time, equipment/money) to create something and someone re-uses it for financial gain they should be compensated now there are of course grey area's and people incapable of seeing them but regardless of what you do w/ it, it is still someone elses work and just as you would rent a tool or pay a consultant, your work is eisier or better for the use of it and you owe remember I said there where grey area's on an artistic level its as wide as the sky I'll bet %30 of pop/rock music is direct ripoff/recyle WITHOUT sampling some of this as homage or influence and much of it just plain money grabbing ripoff just cause you can copywrite it doesn't make it creative just cause you had another musician play it doesn't mean it isn't for all practical purposes a "sample" its art if its art, regardless of technique of creation remember htere was a time when people didn't consider ANY photography art given the proliferation of digital equipment don't expect sampling to go away the very way many of us make music is changing, wether its groove quantising or using midi phrase loops or sampling alot of music is being done w/ prewritten parts, I think its pretty iffy to say that using a small groove sample in your music is dramatically different than using twiddly bits, drumtrax or other methods of music generation I think the differnce between MC hammer and john oswald is obvious don't you From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 16:24:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA03286; Wed, 2 May 2001 16:15:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 16:15:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AF06AAE.E287F71E@altruistmusic.com> Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 13:14:38 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Logic looping ---> Pluggo vs. Spektral Delay? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6663 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com O Looplist, Vis-a-vis the thread on software looping, I'm wondering if anyone here has opinions on the relative merits of Cycling 74's Pluggo vs. Native Instruments' Spektral Delay? I have the demo versions of both programs, and like them a lot. Any opinions on strengths/weaknesses? VST compatibility? Other similar types of sound-warping plug-ins? Thanks, --Andre From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 16:41:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA03710; Wed, 2 May 2001 16:37:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 16:37:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <200105022034.NAA15401@proxy4.ba.best.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 13:42:49 -0700 Subject: Re: Plunderphonic (was "disrespecting softwares") From: "Allan Hoeltje" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6664 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Beating it into the ground is all part of deconstruction and understanding of a topic, in my opinion. As to Oswald, I have two of his CDs: Grayfolded I and II. Together they make two hours of deconstructed/reconstructed Greatful Dead playing their opus maximus "Dark Star". Oswald was invited by the Dead into their tape vault and he was allowed to take every recording of Dark Star ever made and from this he put together "Grayfolded". It is truly an amazing work. -Allan From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 19:08:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA09507; Wed, 2 May 2001 19:06:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 19:06:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010502190015.009f3290@mail.pdfsystems.com> X-Sender: robert@mail.pdfsystems.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 19:06:26 -0400 To: loopers delight From: "anti:clockwise" Subject: anti:clockwise NYC re-re-announcement Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_11477458==_.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6666 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --=====================_11477458==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed so, it's like this. that anti:clockwise show at the pink pony, originally announced for sat 5/4, then corrected to read sat. 5/5 has - due to an unfortunate double booking - now been re-scheduled entirely, and will take place on saturday 5/12. obviously, this is somewhat... embarrassing. please accept my apologies for all the confusion. i left a message for my Handlers at the tension headache agency demanding an explanation & asking them "what up?" with all this booking insanity. according to their response, they feel this sort of multiple-posting is an effective and very cheap way of getting the anti:clockwise name "...out there, to the People. a lot." personally i think this is a lowdown, shabby and transparent device; and i would ask them "but what about how pissed off the People are gonna be at me when they keep getting all these lame and confusing cancelling announcements?... ...except where i am, i'm only allowed one phone call. so, now please accept my sheepish and entirely humble New Announcement: the pink pony re-presents anti:clockwise in "better late than ever" saturday 5/12 featuring the light paintings and color sculptures of visualist chris jordan the pony is STILL on ludlow st, just south of houston. thank you for your patience. ++++++++ just what the world needs.... another frikkin url --=====================_11477458==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"

so, it's like this.

that anti:clockwise show at the pink pony, originally announced for sat 5/4, then corrected to read sat. 5/5 has - due to an unfortunate double booking - now been re-scheduled entirely, and will take place on saturday 5/12.

obviously, this is somewhat... embarrassing.

please accept my apologies for all the confusion. i left a message for my Handlers at the tension headache agency demanding an explanation & asking them "what up?" with all this booking insanity.

according to their response, they feel this sort of multiple-posting is an effective and very cheap way of getting the anti:clockwise name "...out there, to the People.  a lot."

personally i think this is a lowdown, shabby and transparent device; and i would ask them "but what about how pissed off the People are gonna be at me when they keep getting all these lame and confusing cancelling announcements?...

...except where i am, i'm only allowed one phone call.

so, now please accept my sheepish and entirely humble New Announcement:

the pink pony re-presents

anti:clockwise
in
"better late than ever"

saturday 5/12

featuring the light paintings and color sculptures of
visualist chris jordan

the pony is STILL on ludlow st, just south of houston.

thank you for your patience.

++++++++
just what the world needs....
another frikkin url
--=====================_11477458==_.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 19:08:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA09446; Wed, 2 May 2001 19:04:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 19:04:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 15:55:22 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Plunderphonic (was "disrespecting softwares") In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1223278369==_ma============" References: <000701c0cfe1$bd89f4a0$0201a8c0@stephen> <012501c0d18d$39702a60$080210ac@jpalmer> <003901c0d195$0b2cedc0$0201a8c0@stephen> Resent-Message-ID: <964ctD.A.NTC.XJJ86@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6665 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1223278369==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 12:50 PM -0700 5/2/01, rich wrote: >the last time around we did this, i got a link to a disc which i've >enjoyed, and now i get to check out John Oswald. any links to his >stuff? Actually, you've already provided the URL to order the new Plunderphonic set= ! http://www.negativland.com/nmol/seeland.html You can download the entire orginal Plunderphonic CD as mp3 files from http://www.amanitarecords.com/plunderphonics/plunmp3.htm or at http://www.detritus.net/archive/plunderphonic/ or as WAV or mp3 files from the official Plunderphonics site http://www.plunderphonics.com/ >in this day of incredibly easy digital repurposing (sp?), the whole >'collage' thing, to me, has less sting... would a Raushenburg or a >Jasper Johns have the same impact if they were done post-Photoshop? >the sheer amount of time and dedication to obtain and repurpose >those images was part of what that art was. A very good point. Even in the late 1970s, when Laurie Anderson was bringing performance collage to the masses, it was still a pretty exciting and somewhat mysterious thing. Perhaps a central issue is the importance of novelty in creating artistic impact. Some "effects" make a strong impression primarily because they are unexpected or unexplainable. They don't even have to all that well done if they haven't previously been done at all (cf. Georges M=E9li=E8s's 1902 film, "A Trip to the Moon"). Someone pioneers an effect and it creates a sensation. Then others figure out how to do it and to improve upon it and it becomes a fad. =46inally it becomes so pervasive that it becomes part of the common practice. It may even create a backlash and go out of fashion, though in the best of cases it will be taken up by the truly creative and refined as a subtle and sophisticated gesture. Take morphing for example. As far as I know the first use of a visual morph effect in a major film was in the Ron Howard film "Willow" (1988), where it was used for one brief transformation sequence. The technique was further developed at ILM to portray the essential shapeshifting power of the bad Terminator in "Terminator 2" and it was used as a snappy effect in Michael Jackson's "Black or White" video. After that it ran rampant. However, there was one cinematic morph that impressed me in "What Lies Beneath," where Michele Pfeiffer is undergoing spiritual possession by the ghost of her husband's ex-lover and for just a moment her face transforms into that of the other woman. Wham! Blink and you'll miss it, but that one instant made it worth sitting through the rest of the film. So I'd say the same thing goes for musical collage. It may have lost its ability to shock, but if it's done well it still has power. >Eno and Byrne's "my life in the bush of ghosts" feels the same way. An excellent example. From what I hear they pinched the idea from Jon Hassel= l. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=3Drz --============_-1223278369==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Plunderphonic (was "disrespecting softwares")
At 12:50 PM -0700 5/2/01, rich wrote:

the last time around we did this, i got a link to a disc which i've enjoyed, and now i get to check out John Oswald. any links to his stuff? 

Actually, you've already provided the URL to order the new Plunderphonic set !

        http://www.negativland.com/nmol/seeland.html

You can download the entire orginal Plunderphonic CD as mp3 files from

        http://www.amanitarecords.com/plunderphonics/plunmp3.htm

or at
        http://www.detritus.net/archive/plunderphonic/

or as WAV or mp3 files from the official Plunderphonics site

        http://www.plunderphonics.com/


in this day of incredibly easy digital repurposing (sp?), the whole 'collage' thing, to me, has less sting...  would a Raushenburg or a Jasper Johns have the same impact if they were done post-Photoshop? the sheer amount of time and dedication to obtain and repurpose those images was part of what that art was.

A very good point. Even in the late 1970s, when Laurie Anderson was bringing performance collage to the masses, it was still a pretty exciting and somewhat mysterious thing.

Perhaps a central issue is the importance of novelty in creating artistic impact.  Some "effects" make a strong impression primarily  because they  are unexpected or unexplainable. They don't even have to all that well done if they haven't previously been done at all (cf. Georges M=E9li=E8s's 1902 film, "A Trip to the Moon").

Someone pioneers an effect and it creates a sensation.  Then others figure out how to do it and to improve upon it and it becomes a fad. Finally it becomes so pervasive that it becomes part of the common practice. It may even create a backlash and go out of fashion, though in the best of cases it will be taken up by the truly creative and refined as a subtle and sophisticated gesture.

Take morphing for example.  As far as I know the first use of a visual morph effect in a major film was in the Ron Howard film "Willow" (1988), where it was used for one brief transformation sequence. The technique was further developed at ILM to portray the essential shapeshifting power of the bad Terminator in "Terminator 2" and it was used as a snappy effect in Michael Jackson's "Black or White" video. After that it ran rampant. However, there was one cinematic morph that impressed me in "What Lies Beneath," where Michele Pfeiffer is undergoing spiritual possession by the ghost of her husband's ex-lover and for just a moment her face transforms into that of the other woman. Wham!  Blink and you'll miss it, but that one instant made it worth sitting through the rest of the film.

So I'd say the same thing goes for musical collage. It may have lost its ability to shock, but if it's done well it still has power.


Eno and Byrne's "my life in the bush of ghosts" feels the same way.

An excellent example. From what I hear they pinched the idea from Jon Hassell.


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--============_-1223278369==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 19:28:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA10421; Wed, 2 May 2001 19:27:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 19:27:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: alex@postal.pixar.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3AF06AAE.E287F71E@altruistmusic.com> References: <3AF06AAE.E287F71E@altruistmusic.com> Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 16:26:31 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Alex Stahl Subject: Re: Logic looping ---> Pluggo vs. Spektral Delay? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6667 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com For what it's worth, as far as I know, a Max/MSP programmer could whip up a Pluggo to do what Spektral Delay does, but not the other way around. At least, it is easy to take an MSP object (such as a delay) that is typically applied to time-domain signals and apply it to frequency-domain data instead. I am pretty sure that idea is at the heart of Spektral Delay. At 1:14 PM -0700 5/2/01, Andre LaFosse wrote: >O Looplist, > >Vis-a-vis the thread on software looping, I'm wondering if anyone here >has opinions on the relative merits of Cycling 74's Pluggo vs. Native >Instruments' Spektral Delay? > >I have the demo versions of both programs, and like them a lot. Any >opinions on strengths/weaknesses? VST compatibility? Other similar >types of sound-warping plug-ins? > >Thanks, > >--Andre From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 20:02:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA12269; Wed, 2 May 2001 20:01:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 20:01:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: matthias@pop.e-net.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <007501c0d292$3b24cea0$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au> References: <000e01c0d164$48947ec0$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au> <001f01c0d244$fd7fe3c0$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au> <007501c0d292$3b24cea0$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au> Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 21:04:56 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: Logic Audio Loops Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6668 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > > Great, seems simple... and you have it all pedal controlled? >not yet. > >> How do you control the 4 FeedBacks? >I've set them to 100% so they repeat infinitly. I can clear any of the >delays by just bypassing that particular delay. If I want to mute a delay, I >just mute the track that it's on. I can also solo that track...remixing on >the fly is easy. oh, for me looping started with the control of FB by foot. I keep repeating myself on this list about it, but people who make the experience viciate in it, so I keep repeating... without fading :-) Anyway, I guess you can control parameters of plugins by MIDI, right? So the problem would be how to control each one or all plugins at once. > > How about the initial speed, you tap it? >I set it by typing a value, but the waves supertap plugin has a tap button >on it. > >> amazing... do you use it just for the delays or listen the original >> sound through it, too? >I monitor through it too. this is essencial. > > Any special buffer... settings? >Keep the buffer as small as possible, it makes the latency go away. How far can you bring it down to still get 4 tracks? What is your computer? > > but as I understand, this could be done in some other app, too, right? >Yes, should be able to...but I'm not sure if the other apps will work as >smoothly...anyone with Cubase wanna give this a go? I will try with Performer. Polar is a very interesting looping aid built into it, but it does not have the FeedBack option, so I have to find a way... >Lastly, if there are any VST programmers out there...if one of you could >make a simple really long stereo delay plugin that uses the tempo from the >sequencer and has infinite feedback, this would work better than the waves >supertap, as the waves plugin has a lot of extra features that aren't needed >for looping. Would be great if you could set the length in bars. right, but not just infinite FeedBack, please, and a tap function that chops the existing loop reasonable and groupable and and... -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 22:05:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA16430; Wed, 2 May 2001 22:03:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 22:03:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004001c0d374$cd451e60$66effea9@oemcomputer> From: "become_1" To: References: <000e01c0d164$48947ec0$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au><001f01c0d244$fd7fe3c0$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au><007501c0d292$3b24cea0$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au> Subject: OT: Rane mixer FS on Ebay Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 22:00:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 May 2001 02:01:50.0979 (UTC) FILETIME=[04B21D30:01C0D375] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6669 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Just thought someone on the list might be interested in this sm-82 mixer: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1427336545&r=0&t=0&sh owTutorial=0&ed=989091086&indexURL=0&rd=1 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 2 23:07:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA18648; Wed, 2 May 2001 23:05:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 23:05:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <80.a82e274.282224c0@aol.com> Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 23:04:32 EDT Subject: Re: Logic Audio Loops To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6670 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com andrew@kaleidacousticon.com writes: >host-sync support from within Logic's >VST implementation which could make this a little tricky as far as my uses go, host-sync in LAMP seem to be working since v4.7. best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 3 01:15:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA23299; Thu, 3 May 2001 01:14:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 01:14:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: matthias@pop.e-net.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3AF06AAE.E287F71E@altruistmusic.com> References: <3AF06AAE.E287F71E@altruistmusic.com> Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 02:16:39 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: Logic looping ---> Pluggo vs. Spektral Delay? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <3gWVfC.A.yrF.0jO86@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6671 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >O Looplist, > >Vis-a-vis the thread on software looping, I'm wondering if anyone here >has opinions on the relative merits of Cycling 74's Pluggo vs. Native >Instruments' Spektral Delay? > >I have the demo versions of both programs, and like them a lot. Any >opinions on strengths/weaknesses? VST compatibility? Other similar >types of sound-warping plug-ins? > >Thanks, > >--Andre I dont know Spektral Delay, but when I read this, I had just closed Performer after the first trials with delay plug ins and here is what I found: The Waves delay seems less apropriate because it does not have the option to sync to the sequencer speed. The MOTU delay does it but not acurate. The Pluggo VeryLongDelay does it quite exactly and has a totally flexible relation control so you can do your shifting multiple loops. It even preserves sound reasonably when I can change from 1/4 to 1, reminding a EDP Multiply by 4 function ;-) Speed tap: I can control the sequencer speed with an external MIDI note or clock easily. So that would be a tempo tap. The strange thing is that the plug in does not follow that speed but insist on some 86 beat I dont know where it takes from. Could this be a bug? With both plugings the same happens, so it would be a Performer bug? FeedBack control: As I understand Performer, I can control one plug in parameter with the automation and I can control Volume and Pan by MIDI but not the parameter by MIDI... why would that be? So these would be reasons to use Logic? Well, there is still quite a way to go, but I got the impression that there is one... and there must be Pluggo programmers that are closer to what we need, or may I help someone? ...yes, I know, the new MST version... -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 3 01:19:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA23443; Thu, 3 May 2001 01:17:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 01:17:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: wolfmomm@mail.speakeasy.org Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 01:12:34 -0400 To: ambient@hyperreal.org, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: WTB Yamaha FS1R Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6672 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ... in a nutshell. -- "Once the search is in progress, something will be found" -- Brian Eno and Peter Schmidt Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. 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Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 3 01:41:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA23935; Thu, 3 May 2001 01:40:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 01:40:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010503053927.24222.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 22:39:27 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Boss RC-20 user review on Harmony Central To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6673 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Not a bad review, but I think I'll hold out for the Repeater. http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/Boss/RC_20_Loop_Station-01.html ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 3 03:25:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA27467; Thu, 3 May 2001 03:24:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 03:24:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 00:15:36 -0700 Subject: stuff fs Message-ID: <20010503.001536.-79647.7.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,4-5,9-10,13-14,16-20,22-23,25-26,31-32,34-40 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6674 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hey folks, gonna sell some of my fancier loopers if anyone is interested. my wee brain finds the dl4 and boomerang work just fine for me. i can email pics. here's what i'd like to sell: oberheim echoplex digital pro with expanded memory, footpedal and new loop software chip (uninstalled). it's in good cosmetic shape and functions perfectly. i bought it over a year ago from a fellow listee for $825 and just haven't used it much. so i'm open to any fair offer. lexicon jam man with one footswitch a xerox manual, no memory upgrade. it's in great cosmetic shape and works perfectly. again, i'm open to a fair offer. boss/roland dr sample 202. it's in new condition as i've only used it in my home studio. i also have some recording gear for sale: alesis adat (blackface) in excellent condition with low hours and an elco (1/4 trs) cable and lrc. tascam 16 channel board. this is a great board! the eq is wonderful. the headphone out cuts out intermittently tho'. panasonic sv3500 dat deck. sounds way better than more recent sv decks. i don't know why, but i've owned a few. it also has xlr inputs, very cool. has a wired remote too. i'll thow in a BUNCH of dats too. i have like 30-40 of them, most of which have been used just once or twice and have been erased. that's it! please pmail if you're interested. i'm in the burbank (la) area for any locals who wanna come and kick the tires :-) thanks for the bandwidth! tony tony-moore@juno.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 3 11:29:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13290; Thu, 3 May 2001 11:22:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 11:22:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: matthias@pop.e-net.com.br (Unverified) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 12:23:56 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: new concept of owning Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6675 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I did not read all the long mails and emotions about cracking and sampling, but offer my point of view here, as short and clear as possible: At this point of evolution, the concept of owning changes: In the past, the owner had the responsibility for whatever he owned. Whatever he did not want any more, he traded to a new owner, together with the responsibility. ( The capitalist system weakened this in the past century, because shareholders don't share responsibility and the CEOs of subparts of companies are fired so frequently and immediately that they often don't go as far as identifying themselves with what they lead - but that's not what we discuss here. ) We still live the old moral concept: All that is traded or stolen leaves the hand of the previous owner and what did not belong to anyone before we do not consider ours either. (occupation of land and exploration of natural resources are problematic exceptions). The idea o patenting extended this concept, but without exploding it: Any idea comes from the collective mind of humanity and should not be owned by anyone, but once someone assumes the execution of the idea, which means that he invests work into it, he should become responsible for it and should be considered the owner of the *implementation* of it and be rewarded for success. More complicated if someone continues the elaboration of the same idea: Neither should he be hold back from doing so, nor should he disrespect the work of his precedor. Unfortunately its very difficult to create laws to force such "partial royalty". More difficult even if the "user" of an idea is not in the industrial scale, where patents can be negotiated. In the last century a new form of goods became important: The technology for copying on tape and photo weakened the ownership rules, but still, an original existed and the copy was inferior. Someone can buy the original painting for a lot of money and the artist "feels a part of himself going away", while we don't loose anything if someone gets a copy of our art, we just may get richer by some $ and some admiration. The case of software its more radical because the original and the copy is identical. So to make another copy is not stealing in the old sense, because the owner does not feel a difference, or even a positive one since his energy is spread and becomes known. That's why there is so much given away on the Internet: Not because we have become so much more altruistic, but it has become much simpler to give, because its not really giving any more, not even sharing, just letting copy, we lack of a word for this! Of course the creator of music or software needs to be rewarded, but obviously, its not any more by everyone who holds a copy but hopefully by the maybe 20% that really profit from it. Solutions like "light versions", cheap betas, trial period,,, reflect this need for several "degrees of ownership", but its all to new to be stable. I find rather doubtful to make the payment depend on wealth of either user or creator. Its the "socialist anarchy" of saying: I am poor and Gates got billions so why should I pay for his soft... but I did not buy Word either :-) So this is a new test for our morality: Are we able to reward justly the creators of the software we are using? I have cracks of several programs that I just open sometimes, for curiosity or to solve an uncommon problem, so why should I pay for them or what would it help to trash them? But the ones I use regularly and end up making money with, I have to pay, yes, sure, nobody doubts that, right? The whole problem is that there are no strict rules and we depend on responsibility of each user and its good to discuss this anyway, because: This awareness hopefully teaches us about another drastic new kind of ownership: Through pollution each one of us influences the whole globe to some extent. Even the poor guy that shits in the back of his hut has his shit washed into rivers and it ends up in the sea. Although he may never see the sea, he must become aware that he is a coowner of it and has some responsibility. He can delegate it to some water cleaning institution, but better even he would shit into a tank and let it dry for a year until it's bacteria free and then spread over the land! Similarly, we car users are coowners of our air, and when we drive around we should at least ask ourselves whether its really worth it. If someone destroys a common good, is this steeling? Kind of, somehow the opposite of the software case, since the "previous owner" looses the goods, while the new one does not hold them in hand. So we should treat ownership laws in 3 categories: - HW: what someone receives, the someone else looses - SW: what someone receives, nobody looses - Ambient: what is lost, nobody receives. -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 3 13:24:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA17740; Thu, 3 May 2001 13:20:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 13:20:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010503131717.009f5060@mail.pdfsystems.com> X-Sender: robert@mail.pdfsystems.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 13:18:58 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "anti:clockwise" Subject: "vintage" board question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_9121601==_.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6676 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --=====================_9121601==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed tascam model 3 - phantom power Y / N ? anybody here, um, "vintage" enuf to be familiar w/ this bad boy? replies off-list if this aint loop enuf... best a:c ++++++++ just what the world needs.... another frikkin url --=====================_9121601==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"

tascam model 3 -

phantom power  Y  /  N   ?

anybody here, um, "vintage" enuf to be familiar w/ this bad boy?
replies off-list if this aint loop enuf...

best
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just what the world needs....
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--=====================_9121601==_.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 3 13:33:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA17958; Thu, 3 May 2001 13:31:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 13:31:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: cave@pop1.osk.3web.ne.jp X-Mailer: Macintosh Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1-J Message-Id: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 02:30:10 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sunao Inami Subject: "Looper's Delight J" update Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6677 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Loopers, "Looper's Delight J" web page updated. All uploaded loop materials are open to the public via http. http://www.cavestudio.com/LD_J/2001/uploaded_loops.html "Looper's Delight J" is webcast loop gig from Kobe,Japan. 11th May 2001. http://www.cavestudio.com/LD_J/2001/ Regards Sunao Inami http://www.cavestudio.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 3 14:34:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20215; Thu, 3 May 2001 14:32:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 14:32:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7783A141C794D4118AAA00306E00B0B1E8FF31@msgatl06.iss.net> From: "Filacchione, Alex (ISSAtlanta)" To: "'whiteoakstudios'" , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: midi rolls & gig stuff Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 14:26:15 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <9y-CR.A.p7E.2Pa86@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6678 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have one of these Rolls switchers too. The manuals suck (actually there IS no real manual). Anyway, How are you using the 4 switches (not teh effects loops)? I know that they are for things like switching amp channels, etc. but are there any other interesting uses? Ever used the Rolls 402 Volume Pedal as a control voltage pedal? I can't get mine to work. I believe it is broken because it won't even work as a regular old volume pedal! Alex F/Brain21 <--------========b21========--------> Brain21 - www.brain21.net www.mp3.com/Brain21 Buy individual songs @ http://www.nrmmusic.com/customcds.htm <--------========b21========--------> =>-----Original Message----- =>From: whiteoakstudios [mailto:whiteoakstudios@supanet.com] =>Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 5:22 AM =>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com =>Subject: Re: midi rolls & gig stuff => => =>Just wanted to share my delight in my new looping interface. =>Thanks to my =>new midi rolls pedal I have 4 switches and 4 pedals plugged =>up and sending =>midi messages to Kyma. I used it for the first time live last =>night. Four =>independant stereo delay lines, (3.6secs, 7.2s, 14.4s and =>28.8s, (that's a =>lot of secs for one night oops )) for some dense =>texturing/detexturing. =>Keepng track of what I recorded where was the only problem. =>Incidentally I decided to tell my audience what was going on =>in the sense =>that I was live multitracking. A few people came up and said they =>appreciated this information without which they would have =>assumed I was =>using backing tracks. =>PS I also used two Leslie speakers, (Dawson & Neilson) - I =>feel I'm getting =>closer to, (lots of reverb) THE ULTIMATE RIG- =>WHOOOHOHOHAHHAHAHAHHEHEHE................. => =>Gareth, (calming down now) => From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 3 14:57:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20691; Thu, 3 May 2001 14:55:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 14:55:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 13:54:21 -0500 From: "Ted Geerdink" To: Subject: looping with minidisk question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id OAA20645 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6679 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Have any companies come out with footswitch controls for portable minidisk machines yet? Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 3 16:55:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25488; Thu, 3 May 2001 16:53:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 16:53:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 16:48:46 -0500 (EST) From: Adam Levin To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: DAP in Baltimore Saturday night Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6680 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Saturday May 5th, The Dark Aether Project will take a break from work on their third album for a special performance to premiere new material live at Orion Studios located at 2903 Whittington Ave in Baltimore MD. Showtime is 8pm and admission is *free* for all ages. The Dark Aether Project: Allen Brunelle: Drums/Keyboards/Vocals Jennifer Huff: Vocals Adam Levin: Warr 8 String Touchstyle Guitar/Keyboards/loops John McCloskey: Guitar/Guitar Synthesizer Marty Saletta Keyboards/Stick See http://www.DarkAether.net/ for more information "...jazz-inflected, often minimalistic...foreboding soundscapes...classy ...offers mature musicianship without pretentiousness" - John Collinge - Progression (US) "..intense and blistering lead work...amazing loops and shimmering textures that are at once haunting and dreamlike...worthy of attention." - Peter Thelen - Expose (US) "...delivers what the demanding progressive rock fan wants: a unique and original product, dexterity, a sharp musical flair and the ability to play with the listener's emotions." - Cyclone Magazine (Quebec) "I'm blown away. This is - forgive my colloquialism - some serious shit. ...an absolutely fabulous album." - Larry Nai - Progression - (US) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 3 17:20:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA27205; Thu, 3 May 2001 17:18:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 17:18:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010503140945.00b3c3d0@10.10.10.1> X-Sender: jsd@10.10.10.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 14:16:01 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Jon Drukman Subject: introduction/contradiction In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <8IbsPC.A.woG.vrc86@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6681 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hello friends. just discovered this fine list this morning. sounds like just my cup of tea. i've been making music for years. in the last year or two Acid Pro has really blown my mind wide open. i've written a loop library for it, and it is going to be published by Sonic Foundry later this year. my friend Rick (of goth/prog/artrock band Amoeba - see http://www.amoeba.com/amframeset.html) came by a few weeks ago with one of those new Line 6 Delay Modellers (with the built in loop sampler mode, ala the old Electro Harmonix looper). we did a track using it quite extensively. kind of my modern take on the fripp/eno albums of the 70's. http://spoo.pretension.com/360degrees.mp3 does anybody on this list use Reaktor? i wrote a loop sampler ensemble for it, which is basically like the one in the line 6 unit, but not quite as fancy (no instant half-speed/reverse function). -jsd- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 3 17:34:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA27738; Thu, 3 May 2001 17:32:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 17:32:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [62.104.212.76] From: "Robert Eberwein" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: re: pseudo intellectual properties Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 21:30:42 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 May 2001 21:30:43.0078 (UTC) FILETIME=[4EAF2A60:01C0D418] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6682 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA29975; Thu, 3 May 2001 18:39:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 18:39:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.174.121.53] From: "Patrick Bailey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: LA Gig spam..... Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 15:38:04 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 May 2001 22:38:05.0174 (UTC) FILETIME=[B7F61160:01C0D421] Resent-Message-ID: <5kebx.A.EUH.s3d86@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6683 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com if you like House music........................ Saturday May 5th, 2001 NO-I-TU-LOVE and Dufflebag records presents- PROPAGANDA feat. Natural Rhythm (yours truly) Lance Desardi JT Donaldson Tasho Wally Callerio back in the hip hop/down tempo lair.... Cocoe Josh One Mr. Goodbar Scott Coats Jud Nester Soul 10pm-6am located in Los Angeles 18+ alcohol for 21+ w/ID 714-648-2104 323-960-5625 see you there! I'm currently not using any looping devices live, I am actually the looping device myself, just playing repetitive figures on my Les Paul crudded up with ebow, slide, microsynth, and space echo. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 3 20:27:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA02031; Thu, 3 May 2001 20:25:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 20:25:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [207.217.34.34] From: "Professor Vast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: reaktor Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 17:24:27 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 May 2001 00:24:27.0273 (UTC) FILETIME=[93FD1790:01C0D430] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6684 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >From: Jon Drukman >does anybody on this list use Reaktor? i wrote a loop sampler ensemble >for>it, which is basically like the one in the line 6 unit, but not >quite >as>fancy (no instant half-speed/reverse function). >>-jsd-> i just got it from a friend. including some addons and premium library stuff. what does loop sampler ensemble refer to? db _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 3 21:16:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA04116; Thu, 3 May 2001 21:14:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 21:14:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Todd Pafford To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: looping with minidisk question Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 21:16:04 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.95.2] Content-Type: text/plain References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01050321160400.01594@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6685 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Thu, 03 May 2001, Ted Geerdink wrote: > Have any companies come out with footswitch controls for portable minidisk > machines yet? > > Ted Not that I've seen, but if they have I bet you could find it through www.minidisc.org Todd From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 3 22:14:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA06345; Thu, 3 May 2001 22:12:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 22:12:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00f401c0d43e$7ecb7de0$61e28cd1@alanis> Reply-To: "Paul" From: "Paul" To: , References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010503140945.00b3c3d0@10.10.10.1> Subject: Re: introduction/contradiction Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 19:03:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6686 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Jon, Welcome honorable looper. Can't wait to check out the new library for acid. I've been using reaktor, where can I find the loop ensemble? party on, -Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Drukman To: Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 2:16 PM Subject: introduction/contradiction > hello friends. > > just discovered this fine list this morning. sounds like just my cup of > tea. i've been making music for years. in the last year or two Acid Pro > has really blown my mind wide open. i've written a loop library for it, > and it is going to be published by Sonic Foundry later this year. > > my friend Rick (of goth/prog/artrock band Amoeba - see > http://www.amoeba.com/amframeset.html) came by a few weeks ago with one of > those new Line 6 Delay Modellers (with the built in loop sampler mode, ala > the old Electro Harmonix looper). we did a track using it quite > extensively. kind of my modern take on the fripp/eno albums of the > 70's. http://spoo.pretension.com/360degrees.mp3 > > does anybody on this list use Reaktor? i wrote a loop sampler ensemble for > it, which is basically like the one in the line 6 unit, but not quite as > fancy (no instant half-speed/reverse function). > > -jsd- > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 00:20:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA10793; Fri, 4 May 2001 00:18:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 00:18:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: From: "Mike Feeney" To: Subject: the new iBook... Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 23:17:43 -0500 Message-ID: <000201c0d451$2a793580$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00f401c0d43e$7ecb7de0$61e28cd1@alanis> Resent-Message-ID: <-tHxnC.A.UoC.c1i86@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6687 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey all, I don't know if anyone has paid much attention, but Apple has a new iBook out. I'm contemplating getting one... but i'm curious if anyone who is more familiar with Mac machines might tell me if I'd be able to use it for recording audio. I do use my PC for it now, and I'd be keeping the PC as well. I'm not even sure if the iBook has any audio inputs... so I thought I'd throw the question out there. Thanks, Mike _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 01:11:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA12688; Fri, 4 May 2001 01:09:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 01:09:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 07:06:42 +0200 Subject: Re: the new iBook... From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14vXpV-06bRp2C@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6688 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, Apples new iBook can also be used for recording.An Stereo Audio input is onboard. alternativley can also be used a USB Audio converter for more professional handling. There a lot of this boxes out Marty ---------- >Von: "Mike Feeney" >An: >Betreff: the new iBook... >Datum: Fre, 4. Mai 2001 6:17 Uhr > > > > > Hey all, > > I don't know if anyone has paid much attention, but Apple has a new iBook >out. I'm contemplating getting one... but i'm curious if anyone who is more >familiar with Mac machines might tell me if I'd be able to use it for >recording audio. I do use my PC for it now, and I'd be keeping the PC as >well. I'm not even sure if the iBook has any audio inputs... so I thought >I'd throw the question out there. > > Thanks, > Mike > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 02:33:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA14688; Fri, 4 May 2001 02:30:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 02:30:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010504082425.00d0f500@mail.groundloops.com> X-Sender: 03groundloopscom@mail.groundloops.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 08:31:42 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: leocavallo Subject: Re: the new iBook... In-Reply-To: <14vXpV-06bRp2C@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6689 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi At 07.06 04/05/01 +0200, you wrote: >Hi, > >Apples new iBook can also be used for recording.An Stereo Audio input is >onboard. the new iBook, like the Titanium powerbook, has no audio input onboard. just audio output. if you want to record you have to use an external USB audio device or, better, a firewire unit like Metric Halo, MOTU, Crest or Yamaha ones. ciao leo PS heres' the Apple link: http://www.apple.com/ibook/specs.html www.groundloops.com c o o l . s o u n d s & s a m p l e . c d s f r e e . s a m p l e s . a r c h i v e From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 04:18:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA17703; Fri, 4 May 2001 04:13:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 04:13:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 09:15:55 +0100 Subject: Re: the new iBook... From: roberto To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000201c0d451$2a793580$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0px5tB.A.eUE.NSm86@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6690 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com on 4/5/01 5:17 AM, Mike Feeney at feeneymike@yahoo.com wrote: > > > > Hey all, > > I don't know if anyone has paid much attention, but Apple has a new iBook > out. I'm contemplating getting one... but i'm curious if anyone who is more > familiar with Mac machines might tell me if I'd be able to use it for > recording audio. I do use my PC for it now, and I'd be keeping the PC as > well. I'm not even sure if the iBook has any audio inputs... so I thought > I'd throw the question out there. > > Thanks, > Mike All Apple machines have always had a fairly decent stereo in/out, obviously a dedicated in/out is better, but I and many I know have used Macs for recording as well as live mixing/looping etc for years quite happily. Roberto ______________________________________________ Roberto Battista http://www.robat.scl.net http://www.robat.scl.net/lectures/index.shtm Tel. 0044 020 8449 1995 Mobile 0775 960 4344 ______________________________________________ http://www.rustyrobot.com independent on-line music distribution, the music you can't find elsewhere, contemporary classical, eclectic, world... ______________________________________________ http://www.robat.scl.net/html/tibet/tibet.shtm an exciting project on technology applied to mobile education for developing countries and remote locations... ______________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 08:18:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA23649; Fri, 4 May 2001 08:16:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:16:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:15:12 EDT Subject: Re: Logic looping ---> Pluggo vs. Spektral Delay? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <1VyS0B.A.XxF.z1p86@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6691 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com andr=E9 writ, >Vis-a-vis the thread on software looping, I'm wondering if anyone here >has opinions on the relative merits of Cycling 74's Pluggo vs. Native >Instruments' Spektral Delay? =20 the spektral demo crashes my mac, but: pluggo rocks, & rocks hard. re: software looping: i haven't found a 'dedicated' looper, to date, that satisfies the visceral=20 qualities that hardware provides..... though, jhno's 'raDial' (from=20 cycling74) hasn't appeared here, yet. >I have the demo versions of both programs, and like them a lot. Any >opinions on strengths/weaknesses? pluggo: granulations, x-modulations, very flexible, a *great* library..... >VST compatibility? pluggo is VST-compliant, incl. 'host sync'. >Other similar >types of sound-warping plug-ins? i recommend these, at least: hyperprism (arboretum systems) mda (free, on the net) bubu (free, on the net) reaktor (native instruments) best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 08:23:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA23792; Fri, 4 May 2001 08:21:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:21:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <43.14928046.2823f866@aol.com> Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:19:50 EDT Subject: Re: introduction/contradiction To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6692 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com jsd@cluttered.com writes: >does anybody on this list use Reaktor? i use reaktor. best, dt /s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 08:25:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA23893; Fri, 4 May 2001 08:23:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:23:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010504142403.00d14b50@mail.groundloops.com> X-Sender: 03groundloopscom@mail.groundloops.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 14:25:01 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: leocavallo Subject: Re: Logic looping ---> Pluggo vs. Spektral Delay? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6693 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > > >Other similar > >types of sound-warping plug-ins? >i recommend these, at least: >hyperprism (arboretum systems) >mda (free, on the net) >bubu (free, on the net) >reaktor (native instruments) and don't forget GRM Tools.... vol1 e vol2. ciao leo www.groundloops.com c o o l . s o u n d s & s a m p l e . c d s f r e e . s a m p l e s . a r c h i v e From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 08:25:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA23930; Fri, 4 May 2001 08:24:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:24:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <20.15f450c2.2823f94b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:23:39 EDT Subject: Re: the new iBook... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6694 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de writes: >An Stereo Audio input is >onboard. that's wrong, no? i think the new iBook has only a stereo-output. best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 08:35:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA24144; Fri, 4 May 2001 08:31:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:31:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010504143202.00d163f0@mail.groundloops.com> X-Sender: 03groundloopscom@mail.groundloops.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 14:33:22 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: leocavallo Subject: Re: the new iBook... In-Reply-To: <20.15f450c2.2823f94b@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6695 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 08.23 04/05/01 -0400, you wrote: >Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de writes: > >An Stereo Audio input is > >onboard. >that's wrong, no? >i think the new iBook has only a stereo-output. right. like the new Titanium, no audio-in at all on the new ibook. you have to use dedicated devices (USB or firewire). ciao leo www.groundloops.com c o o l . s o u n d s & s a m p l e . c d s f r e e . s a m p l e s . a r c h i v e From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 08:41:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA24323; Fri, 4 May 2001 08:39:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:39:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010504143709.00d0f900@mail.groundloops.com> X-Sender: 03groundloopscom@mail.groundloops.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 14:40:42 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: leocavallo Subject: ISynth anyone? In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010504143202.00d163f0@mail.groundloops.com> References: <20.15f450c2.2823f94b@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6696 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com anyone has tried this curios software for live electronic looping? http://www.i-synth.fr/ ciao leo www.groundloops.com c o o l . s o u n d s & s a m p l e . c d s f r e e . s a m p l e s . a r c h i v e From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 09:07:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA25678; Fri, 4 May 2001 09:05:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:05:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 08:04:45 -0500 Subject: Re: the new iBook... From: Mike Feeney To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20.15f450c2.2823f94b@aol.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7MlLRB.A.7QG.vjq86@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6697 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com on 5/4/01 7.23 AM, Hedewa7@aol.com at Hedewa7@aol.com wrote: > Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de writes: >> An Stereo Audio input is >> onboard. > that's wrong, no? > i think the new iBook has only a stereo-output. > best, > dt / s-c yeah, i am fairly sure it's output-only... i haven't used USB for audio input before... how is that done? thanks, mike _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 09:50:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA26281; Fri, 4 May 2001 09:47:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:47:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AF2B3A3.1F688E3D@virtulink.com> Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 09:50:27 -0400 From: David Beardsley Organization: SSI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: the new iBook... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6698 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mike Feeney wrote: > > on 5/4/01 7.23 AM, Hedewa7@aol.com at Hedewa7@aol.com wrote: > > > Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de writes: > >> An Stereo Audio input is > >> onboard. > > that's wrong, no? > > i think the new iBook has only a stereo-output. > > best, > > dt / s-c > > yeah, i am fairly sure it's output-only... > > i haven't used USB for audio input before... how is that done? Get a USB audio device and plug it into your machine. -- * D a v i d B e a r d s l e y * 49/32 R a d i o "all microtonal, all the time" * http://www.virtulink.com/immp/lookhere.htm * http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 10:19:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA27900; Fri, 4 May 2001 10:16:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 10:16:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 09:15:58 -0500 Subject: Re: the new iBook... From: Mike Feeney To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3AF2B3A3.1F688E3D@virtulink.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6699 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com on 5/4/01 8.50 AM, David Beardsley at xouoxno@virtulink.com wrote: > > > Mike Feeney wrote: >> >> on 5/4/01 7.23 AM, Hedewa7@aol.com at Hedewa7@aol.com wrote: >> >>> Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de writes: >>>> An Stereo Audio input is >>>> onboard. >>> that's wrong, no? >>> i think the new iBook has only a stereo-output. >>> best, >>> dt / s-c >> >> yeah, i am fairly sure it's output-only... >> >> i haven't used USB for audio input before... how is that done? > > Get a USB audio device and plug it into your machine. Such as...? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 10:31:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA28163; Fri, 4 May 2001 10:29:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 10:29:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "omjn" To: Subject: RE: the new iBook... Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 22:28:37 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6701 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com try going to harmony central and do a search for USB and mac and you should find something www.harmony-central.com omjn -----Original Message----- From: Mike Feeney [mailto:feeneymike@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, 4 May 2001 10:16 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: the new iBook... on 5/4/01 8.50 AM, David Beardsley at xouoxno@virtulink.com wrote: > > > Mike Feeney wrote: >> >> on 5/4/01 7.23 AM, Hedewa7@aol.com at Hedewa7@aol.com wrote: >> >>> Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de writes: >>>> An Stereo Audio input is >>>> onboard. >>> that's wrong, no? >>> i think the new iBook has only a stereo-output. >>> best, >>> dt / s-c >> >> yeah, i am fairly sure it's output-only... >> >> i haven't used USB for audio input before... how is that done? > > Get a USB audio device and plug it into your machine. Such as...? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 10:31:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA28112; Fri, 4 May 2001 10:28:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 10:28:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 09:27:54 -0500 Subject: Re: the new iBook... From: Mike Feeney To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <3AF2B3A3.1F688E3D@virtulink.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6700 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well, let me rephrase: how would one plug a mixing board into a USB device? I'm just not familiar with the USB audio products out there. Mike > Mike Feeney wrote: >> >> on 5/4/01 7.23 AM, Hedewa7@aol.com at Hedewa7@aol.com wrote: >> >>> Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de writes: >>>> An Stereo Audio input is >>>> onboard. >>> that's wrong, no? >>> i think the new iBook has only a stereo-output. >>> best, >>> dt / s-c >> >> yeah, i am fairly sure it's output-only... >> >> i haven't used USB for audio input before... how is that done? > > Get a USB audio device and plug it into your machine. > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 10:37:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA28387; Fri, 4 May 2001 10:33:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 10:33:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: KILLINFO@aol.com Message-ID: <69.14baae3b.2824178c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 10:32:44 EDT Subject: Re: the new iBook... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6702 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 5/4/01 7:28:39 AM, feeneymike@yahoo.com writes: > Well, let me rephrase: how would one plug a mixing board into a USB >device? I'm just not familiar with the USB audio products out there. Go to: http://www.tascam.com/products/us428/index.cfm That should give your question at least one answer (out of many possibilities) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 11:14:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA30065; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:06:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:06:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AF2C505.FEE27775@jps.net> Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 08:04:37 -0700 From: Gary Worsham Reply-To: gworsham@jps.net Organization: MIDICAD X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: FA: Lake Butler MIDI Foot controller 4 pedals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6703 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Bidding starts @ $35. Thanks, Gary http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1428221549 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 11:14:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA30260; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:12:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:12:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 10:11:07 -0500 Subject: Re: the new iBook... From: Mike Feeney To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6704 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks! a little surfing later, and my eyes are opened....... i think i may have to get an iBook and turn it into my little portable recording studio.... =) if you use a USB audio interface, does that bypass the computer's soundcard? Mike on 5/4/01 9.28 AM, omjn at eightohm@iinet.net.au wrote: > try going to harmony central and do a search for USB and mac and you should > find something > > www.harmony-central.com > > omjn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Feeney [mailto:feeneymike@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, 4 May 2001 10:16 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: the new iBook... > > > on 5/4/01 8.50 AM, David Beardsley at xouoxno@virtulink.com wrote: > >> >> >> Mike Feeney wrote: >>> >>> on 5/4/01 7.23 AM, Hedewa7@aol.com at Hedewa7@aol.com wrote: >>> >>>> Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de writes: >>>>> An Stereo Audio input is >>>>> onboard. >>>> that's wrong, no? >>>> i think the new iBook has only a stereo-output. >>>> best, >>>> dt / s-c >>> >>> yeah, i am fairly sure it's output-only... >>> >>> i haven't used USB for audio input before... how is that done? >> >> Get a USB audio device and plug it into your machine. > > > Such as...? > > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 11:58:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA31035; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:52:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:52:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:47:38 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: the new iBook... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6705 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Thanks! a little surfing later, and my eyes are opened....... i think >i may have to get an iBook and turn it into my little portable recording >studio.... =) remembering an earlier thread...folks were chiming in about USB not being terribly friendly to audio. seems to work fine for midi information, but y'all were commenting that for critical audio work, it might not be the best way to go. that kindof stopped my interest in the Tascam USB mixer, and also the new Event mixer (although the event's matrix system seems terribly intriguing). Is USB that bad for audio? Right now, i'm messing with the onboard sound input/outputs on a powerbook G3. Would a USB audio interface be better? worse? the firewire interfaces are starting to show up. i've had pretty good luck using Imovie with firewire to a digital video cam, but sometimes the communication between laptop and camera chokes and you have to start again. i wonder if the same will be for firewire audio. > if you use a USB audio interface, does that bypass the computer's >soundcard? as far as i know...yes. although the macs have never shipped with soundcards, per se. they have always had the audio on board, with 1/8" mini jacks for input and speaker output (some of the older AV macs being an exception - RCA's). funny that they've now dumped the audio in on the new powerbooks and ibooks. i've been a mac-head for about 7 years now, and it seems that with each new generation, they come up with something really cool, but they dump something that was useful, too. anybody want a 7100/66 powermac? i'm getting a used G4 this weekend. i'm sure someone is just dying for Nubus technology, yes? and that 66mhz 601 chip just SMOKES...and gosh, it only cost $2300 new. rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 12:01:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA31210; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:56:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:56:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 08:51:34 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: Logic looping ---> Pluggo vs. Spektral Delay? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6707 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > >Other similar >>types of sound-warping plug-ins? >i recommend these, at least: >hyperprism (arboretum systems) >mda (free, on the net) >bubu (free, on the net) >reaktor (native instruments) >best, >dt / s-c david, can you give us some directions to 'mda' and 'bubu'? if i recall, you are mainly using logic on mac, yes? so you are using pluggo as a vst plug-in through logic? which version of logic are you using? silver/gold/platinum? dumb question...what exactly is 'host-sync'? thanks, rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 12:01:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA31130; Fri, 4 May 2001 11:54:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 11:54:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 08:52:28 -0700 Subject: Re: the new iBook... From: Jamie Drouin To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6706 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I recommend that you look at the new MOTU 828 Firewire interface as well. The Titanium Powerbook and MOTU 828 is my main recording/performance setup now...extremely low latency, lots of I/O, proper ASIO drivers for Cubase, all in a 1U rack unit. Regards, Jamie. on 5/4/01 8:11 AM, Mike Feeney at feeneymike@yahoo.com wrote: > Thanks! a little surfing later, and my eyes are opened....... i think > i may have to get an iBook and turn it into my little portable recording > studio.... =) > > if you use a USB audio interface, does that bypass the computer's > soundcard? > > Mike Jamie Drouin Visual Designer for Electrix (a division of IVL Technologies Ltd) 6710 Bertram Place, Victoria, BC, V8M 1Z6 Canada email... jamie@electrixpro.com fax... 250-544-4102 voice... 250-544-4114 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 12:05:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA32560; Fri, 4 May 2001 12:03:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:03:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:02:37 -0700 From: Andrew Pask Subject: Re: the new iBook... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010504090237-r01010600-4496364c@192.168.1.1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.1.6 (Bluto) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6708 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > if you use a USB audio interface, does that bypass the computer's > soundcard? > Yes indeed it does. They use ASIO drivers for the most part I believe. Latency is the one to watch out for with USB interfaces. I think the iBook looks great, I would hook a firewire audio interface up to it. Metric Halo has the one everybody is talking about. http://www.mhlabs.com But you could also use a Motu 828 http://www.motu.com you could happily run Digital performer on a G3 500. I worked very happily on a G3 400 powerbook with DP for a couple of years. I'd go for at least 300 or so megs of RAM if you intend to do a lot of sampling. Also I think an external firwire drive would come in handy. Only problem with the iBook as far as music apps go would have to be the small screen. L8r A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 12:16:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA00632; Fri, 4 May 2001 12:12:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:12:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003d01c0d4b4$f03b8c10$51cec22b@cambmaya04> From: "Os" To: References: <43.14928046.2823f866@aol.com> Subject: Re: introduction/contradiction Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:11:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <0IEN4C.A.BJ.OTt86@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6709 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com so do I. it's great. os. os@scee.sony.co.uk http://www.mp3.com/carbonboy/ http://www.mp3.com/darkroomuk/ http://www.collective.co.uk/ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 1:19 PM Subject: Re: introduction/contradiction > jsd@cluttered.com writes: > >does anybody on this list use Reaktor? > i use reaktor. > best, > dt /s-c > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 12:16:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA00635; Fri, 4 May 2001 12:12:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:12:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Delivered-To: fixup-Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com@fixme User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 09:12:04 -0700 Subject: Gig Spam [Seattle]: Electrochakra @ Second Avenue Pizza 5/05/01 8:30PM From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6710 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Electrochakra will be returning to the storied Second Avenue Pizza (2015 2nd Avenue) this Saturday (May 5th) for a free performance between 8:30 and 10:30PM. Food and CDs will be available in exchange for US dollars. Be seeing you, Travis Hartnett Electrochakra -- NEW official Electrochakra website: www.electrochakra.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 13:07:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02868; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:05:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:05:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB1C8@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: semi-OT . . . quasi cd review Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:03:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0D4BC.1A373620" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6711 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0D4BC.1A373620 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" howdy, thought i'd mention that a list member (ex-member?), andreas willers, has a really nice new release on the between the lines label (label is german from what i can tell). it's called _tin drums stories_. really nice playing and tunes with his working trio (others are acoustic bass and drums). not any discernable looping that i can tell (haven't listened totally analytically tho'), but a really good cd by one of our own (or ex-own). check it out. stig ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0D4BC.1A373620 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable semi-OT . . . quasi cd review

howdy,

thought i'd mention that a list member (ex-member?), = andreas willers, has a really nice new release on the between the lines = label (label is german from what i can tell). it's called _tin drums = stories_. really nice playing and tunes with his working trio (others = are acoustic bass and drums).

not any discernable looping that i can tell (haven't = listened totally analytically tho'), but a really good cd by one of our = own (or ex-own).

check it out.

stig

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0D4BC.1A373620-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 13:11:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02988; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:08:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:08:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB1C9@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: so cal/usa gig announce/spam Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:06:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0D4BC.A127BC90" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6712 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0D4BC.A127BC90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" May 8 8pm - 11:30 pm Liebig/Golia/Mintz Steuart Liebig - bass and some loopage Vinny Golia - woodwinds Billy Mintz - drums TRIORBITS Paul Carman - saxophones Chris Symer - bass Kendall Kay - drums The charge will be a $5 suggested donation. Reasonably priced refreshments will be available. "THE ARC" is located in The Artists Village at 316 W. 4th St. Santa Ana 1/2 block west of Broadway between Broadway and Birch. 714-542-2232 http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=316+W.+4th+St&city=Santa+Ana& state=CA&slt=33.748000&sln=-117.870600&name=&zip=92701-4585&country=us&BFCat =&BFClient=&mag=6&desc=&cs=9&newmag=9&poititle=&poi= PARKING There is metered parking all along 4th street in front of The Arc. These meters are free after 8pm. There is also free parking after 6pm at the parking structure around the block at 3rd and Birch. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0D4BC.A127BC90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable so cal/usa gig announce/spam

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C0D4BC.A127BC90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 13:17:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA03175; Fri, 4 May 2001 13:13:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 13:13:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <007701c0d4bd$9ffadfe0$7e020f3f@vaio> Reply-To: "Kevin Goldsmith" From: "Kevin Goldsmith" To: References: Subject: Re: the new iBook... Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 10:14:04 -0700 Organization: Unit Circle Media MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 May 2001 17:12:37.0180 (UTC) FILETIME=[6AC867C0:01C0D4BD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6713 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Can you talk about your experiences with the 828? I'm having a hard time finding reviews of it, but I'm thinking seriously about picking one up. Anyone using one of these with a PC? Kevin Unit Circle Media http://www.unitcircle.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamie Drouin" To: Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 8:52 AM Subject: Re: the new iBook... > I recommend that you look at the new MOTU 828 Firewire interface as > well. The Titanium Powerbook and MOTU 828 is my main recording/performance > setup now...extremely low latency, lots of I/O, proper ASIO drivers for > Cubase, all in a 1U rack unit. > > Regards, > Jamie. > > on 5/4/01 8:11 AM, Mike Feeney at feeneymike@yahoo.com wrote: > > Thanks! a little surfing later, and my eyes are opened....... i think > > i may have to get an iBook and turn it into my little portable recording > > studio.... =) > > > > if you use a USB audio interface, does that bypass the computer's > > soundcard? > > > > Mike > > > Jamie Drouin > Visual Designer for Electrix > (a division of IVL Technologies Ltd) > 6710 Bertram Place, Victoria, BC, V8M 1Z6 Canada > > email... jamie@electrixpro.com fax... 250-544-4102 voice... 250-544-4114 > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 14:10:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA05436; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:05:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:05:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 14:04:37 -0400 Subject: plunderphonic 69/96 From: David Myers To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010503053927.24222.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5lITqC.A.aUB.f8u86@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6714 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Got my John Oswald extraveganza today, listening now. Wow! Don't miss this one while it lasts. The RIAA will no doubt do their trip an John and buddies Negativland... http://www.negativland.com/nmol/seeland.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 14:13:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA05640; Fri, 4 May 2001 14:12:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:12:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 13:11:36 -0500 Subject: Re: the new iBook... From: Mike Feeney To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010504090237-r01010600-4496364c@192.168.1.1> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6715 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com on 5/4/01 11.02 AM, Andrew Pask at andrew@kaleidacousticon.com wrote: > Only problem with the iBook as far as music apps go would have to be the > small > screen. > > L8r > > A it is small, but it does go up to 1024x768, so it's not too bad... =) mike _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 15:23:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA07797; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:19:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:19:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010504191829.98655.qmail@web13302.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:18:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Subject: Re: the new iBook... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <2QN0X.A.q5B.GCw86@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6716 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com It looks like you can mirror your display to a larger external monitor if you like. Does Mac OS 9 / OS X support a second different monitor view? >From Apple's site: "RGB video output The iBook is also equipped with RGB video output to mirror your work to an external display or projection device. Composite video output to TV Displaying your movies on a big-screen TV is easy, thanks to the AV port on your iBook. Simply connect your TV to the AV port via the optional Apple AV Cable" stephen --- Mike Feeney wrote: > on 5/4/01 11.02 AM, Andrew Pask at > andrew@kaleidacousticon.com wrote: > > > Only problem with the iBook as far as music apps > go would have to be the > > small > > screen. > > > > L8r > > > > A > > > it is small, but it does go up to 1024x768, so > it's not too bad... =) > > mike > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at > http://mail.yahoo.com > ===== Stephen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 15:58:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA08605; Fri, 4 May 2001 15:56:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 15:56:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010504191829.98655.qmail@web13302.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010504191829.98655.qmail@web13302.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 12:50:30 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: the new iBook... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6717 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com yeah, you can do this with the current powerbooks, too. unfortunately, it just mirrors what's on the book display, from what i understand...which is a dissapointment. with the desktop models, i've been running two monitors in my production department for years. before apple took the video off the main board, we would just add a video card. now, we put in a cheap video card in addition to the main one. add in a cheap 15" monitor and your set. put all of your toolbox pallettes on the small screen and all of your main viewing stuff on the big one, and you can adjust the viewing via monitors control panel. works awesome for graphics apps. haven't tried it on any sound apps, though. i think it would be great if the powerbooks and ibooks allowed you to use the book screen as your toolbox and a large vga screen as the main view. >It looks like you can mirror your display to a larger >external monitor if you like. Does Mac OS 9 / OS X >support a second different monitor view? > > >From Apple's site: >"RGB video output >The iBook is also equipped with RGB video output to >mirror your work to an external display or projection >device. > > Composite video output to TV >Displaying your movies on a big-screen TV is easy, >thanks to the AV port on your iBook. Simply connect >your TV to the AV port via the optional Apple AV >Cable" > >stephen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 16:20:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA10080; Fri, 4 May 2001 16:18:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 16:18:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AF30E83.32642185@zerocrossing.net> Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 13:18:12 -0700 X-Sybari-Trust: 97f6030e 050014e1 00000000 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Dual JamMan footswitch for sale? References: <20010414000546.16470.qmail@web905.mail.yahoo.com> <3AD79A33.1FF4F7EB@zerocrossing.net> <002501c0c47a$f61b1c80$0e2078d8@prelayomb> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6718 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey, I while back on the list, someone posted that they were selling a dual JamMan switch. Having only one JamMan at the time, I ignored the post. I recently bought a Vortex that did not come with any footpedels and now I'm thinking, "That sure would be swell." Is it still for sale? Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 16:50:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA10639; Fri, 4 May 2001 16:43:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 16:43:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AF3143B.E602DC61@altruistmusic.com> Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 13:42:36 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Logic looping ---> Pluggo vs. Spektral Delay? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6719 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks to Mr. D-T S-C Hedewa-Texture for the audio recommends... > pluggo: granulations, x-modulations, very flexible, a *great* library..... Not to mention: pretty damn cheap. > hyperprism (arboretum systems) Hyperprism didn't strike me as being quite as immediate in its appeal or user-interface as some others. (Read: I couldn't get the thing to do crazy sh*t upon first glance). Worth the time, I'm sure... > mda (free, on the net) http://www.mda-vst.com > bubu (free, on the net) This one has a very funny homepage (anyone who likes the Splattercell liner notes will appreciate the humor at work): http://www.macmusic.org/bubuland/ and http://www.macmusic.org/eng/share/sh_free_bubu.shtml Aha, --A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 17:17:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA12424; Fri, 4 May 2001 17:14:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 17:14:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 14:14:30 -0700 From: Andrew Pask Subject: Re: the new iBook... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <20010504141431-r01010600-8df891bf@192.168.1.1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.1.6 (Bluto) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6720 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey Kevin! Bet you wondered why I sent you that. Cheers A > On 5/4/01 at 10:14 AM, kevin@unitcircle.com (Kevin Goldsmith) wrote: > > > Can you talk about your experiences with the 828? I'm having a hard time > > finding reviews of it, but I'm thinking seriously about picking one up. > > Anyone using one of these with a PC? > > > Quoted From the Max/MSP list, So not applicable to PC, sorry. > > Hi all, > Well, much to my surprise my MOTU 828 multichannel firewire box arrived > today. If you don't know what I am talking about, go here: > http://www.motu.com/english/motuaudio/828/body.html > > What I've got: g3/500 powerbook. also testing on G4/450. OS 9.1. Most > recent Max/MSP. For all these tests I used a signal vector size of 16 > samples. > > Here is some of what I have found thus far: > > 1. I've been using a MOTU 2408 mkII on my desktop, so here are some > differences for those who are more familiar with this card (mainly PCI-324 > card). There is no longer an app to change settings on the card. instead > changes are made via a control panel or control strip module. also > installed are 2 extensions which are needed in order for the mac to talk to > the card. changing card settings is a breeze! > > 2. asio latency. for me this is critical since most of the stuff I do > involves me live with my clarinet...so latency is just something I don't > want. not overwhelmingly great news in this category. the minimum sample > buffer size, which to a large extent determines input/output latency, is > 128. PCI-324 ASIO driver is 64, FYI. Using Les Stuck's latency tester, > this equates to about a 6.893 ms in Max/MSP. But...there is a problem. > Testing some of my slightly more involved patches (i.e. more involved than a > single sfplay~ or groove~) I've noticed that with this buffer size, my > g3/500 pb just can't keep up. lots of hiccups and at times DSP just decides > to stop working and needs a reboot. This is the case with both groove~ and > sfplay~, just to eliminate possibilities of a slow hard-drive. Setting the > buffer size to the next level (192) cures all. no stutters, hiccups, stops. > all works fine. 192 = 9.796 ms latency in Max/MSP using same tester as > before. On my G4/450, none of these problems exist. A buffer of 128 > samples works great with none of the problems found on my powerbook. I > contacted MOTU tech support via email and got a reply today(!) regarding > this...basically they say there is enough of a difference in CPU's between > the 2 to account for this. > > As an FYI, I also tried this using Peak and MOTU's Audio Desk. Both could > handle playback fine with the 128 sample buffer, but as soon as you added > any effects I got the same problems found in my Max tests. > > 3. cpu usage. looks like you take a bit of a hit for the using the ASIO > driver...but I also saw this with the driver for the PCI-324 card. what > takes up 14% using the sound manager takes up about 22% using the ASIO 828 > driver. The good news is that there is very little difference in CPU usage > between 2 channels and 8 channels of output. So...perhaps worth the > tradeoff. I personally think so. > > Despite the fact that I can't get the sample buffer size below 192, I still > really like this card. it's just too cool to have multichannel output > coming from my powerbook. Not only that, I can plug it into any firewire > mac, install a few drivers, and I've got multichannel output wherever I > go...and I only need one card for my g4 and powerbook. Great for the David > Beaudry Road Show. Other perks of the card are 2 mic preamps for channels 1 > and 2 (that is if you aren't too picky about your mic pre-amps), s/pdif > in/out, an in and out ADAT light pipe, and ADAT sync. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 20:15:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA20349; Fri, 4 May 2001 20:13:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:13:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 04 May 2001 11:18:28 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: plunderphonic 69/96 In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6721 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 2:04 PM -0400 5/4/01, David Myers wrote: >Got my John Oswald extraveganza today, listening now. Wow! Don't miss this >one while it lasts. The RIAA will no doubt do their trip an John and >buddies Negativland... Oswald's original intention was to re-release Plunderphonic and related material from 1969 through 1996 with all clearances duly obtained. That would have put the price of this set a about US$100. It appears that he wasn't able to get all the clearances, and that is ostensibly the reason distribution is through Seeland. The price has also been lowered to $33.00. Interestingly, Amazon lists the set at $24.97 list price, with an original release date of April 3, 2001, but is taking pre-orders only. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 20:52:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA20782; Fri, 4 May 2001 20:50:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:50:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [64.108.199.210] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 00:49:33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2001 00:49:33.0403 (UTC) FILETIME=[40200AB0:01C0D4FD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Ok, fellow LoOpErS, It's here Sonic Foundry's Acid Pro 3.0, for 99 bucks ! I just bought it ( Iwas playing with the Beta, and I tell you, tis is the BEST thing for use Computer Based Loopers since .... well you get the picture).

Now if you have the beta, by now a Net Memo has popped up telling you about this great offer, if not go to the site, and download it (it's 99.00, and you get a Loop Library, and You can download Vegas Audio Lite !)

And all you WAREZ heads out there, beware.... this is code is not to be screwed with !


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 21:01:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA22041; Fri, 4 May 2001 20:59:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:59:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [64.108.199.210] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Carmenbjones@cs.com, ldarthard@ameritech.net Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 00:58:40 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_6955_5f17_3502" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2001 00:58:40.0429 (UTC) FILETIME=[862D95D0:01C0D4FE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6723 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_6955_5f17_3502 Content-Type: text/html

Just in case you need the link, here it is : 

http://www.sonicfoundry.com/promo.asp?keycode=6677

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From: "Devious D_MasterMixer"
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Subject: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 00:49:33

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------=_NextPart_000_6955_5f17_3502 Content-Type: message/rfc822 >From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 04 17:51:49 2001 Received: from [207.228.238.9] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBCBC9954005640043708CFE4EE0912AD0; Fri May 04 17:50:31 2001 Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA20779; Fri, 4 May 2001 20:50:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 20:50:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [64.108.199.210] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 00:49:33 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2001 00:49:33.0403 (UTC) FILETIME=[40200AB0:01C0D4FD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6722 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Ok, fellow LoOpErS, It's here Sonic Foundry's Acid Pro 3.0, for 99 bucks ! I just bought it ( Iwas playing with the Beta, and I tell you, tis is the BEST thing for use Computer Based Loopers since .... well you get the picture).

Now if you have the beta, by now a Net Memo has popped up telling you about this great offer, if not go to the site, and download it (it's 99.00, and you get a Loop Library, and You can download Vegas Audio Lite !)

And all you WAREZ heads out there, beware.... this is code is not to be screwed with !


Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

------=_NextPart_000_6955_5f17_3502-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 4 22:59:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA25631; Fri, 4 May 2001 22:57:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 22:57:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <023801c0d502$4a133ec0$fdab0b18@olmpi1.wa.home.com> From: "mattlove1" To: References: Subject: plunderphonic - one hand clapping (or four?) Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 18:25:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6724 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com What are the ethics of downloading John Oswald from Napster? Does that make it twice as bad as supporting his Plunderphonics by buying it - or half as bad? I'm being flippant, of course. I think that Negativland's whole performance art around U2 was fascinating and thought provoking. A lot of meat to chew on. I find Oswald's stuff less compelling - it's partly aesthetics, but I haven't seen him articulate his issues in the same way Hosler and Co have. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 5 08:23:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA12161; Sat, 5 May 2001 08:20:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 08:20:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Version: music 6.2.3 .2313.0 From: "Eric Zang" Message-Id: <34832470E2145D115A4600807CFBC69C@ericzang.music.com> Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 05:29:30 -0700 X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: mfc10 sends sysex? other foot controllers? X-Mailer: Web Based Pronto Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6725 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, I'm looking for confirmation about which midi foot controllers can send programmable sysex. As I've read, the Roland fc-200 does not have "programmable" sysex, only preset sysex for roland units. The following are possibilities I know of: Yamaha MFC-10? Doesn't say on yamaha web site specs. Mitigator - read a blurb saying it does, but these seem rare to find. Digitech PMC-10 - rare and not reliable according to posts. Rocktron AllAccess - wow, dang expensive! Other units? Eric Zang www.listen.to/zang ------------------------------------------- Check out the special promotion for Music.com Magazine! Just go to http://www.music.com/magazine/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 5 12:17:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25744; Sat, 5 May 2001 12:16:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 12:16:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 09:11:04 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: mfc10 sends sysex? other foot controllers? In-reply-to: <34832470E2145D115A4600807CFBC69C@ericzang.music.com> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <34832470E2145D115A4600807CFBC69C@ericzang.music.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6726 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 5:29 AM -0700 5/5/01, Eric Zang wrote: >Hi, I'm looking for confirmation about which midi foot controllers >can send programmable sysex. > >Mitigator - read a blurb saying it does, but these seem rare to find. >Digitech PMC-10 - rare and not reliable according to posts. >Rocktron AllAccess - wow, dang expensive! Those are the three I know about. The Mitigator RFC-1 is robust and relatively easy to program. The PMC-10 is flimsy. Another alternative, for those willing to program and schlep a computer, might be to get an older Powerbook and to use Max to map program change messages from one of the more common foot controllers. This would give maximum flexibility and would probably cost less than the Rocktron. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 5 14:24:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30083; Sat, 5 May 2001 14:22:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 14:22:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [64.108.198.83] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: mlameyer@rcn.com Cc: vbell@avantgo.com, ldarthard@ameritech.net, lamontwtts@hotmail.com, dj_dirk@hotmail.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 18:21:02 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2001 18:21:02.0777 (UTC) FILETIME=[24528A90:01C0D590] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6727 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Ok, use this link : http://www.sonicfoundry.com/promo.asp?keycode=6677  to get to the site. Click on the $349.97 deal. The second screen will ask you to continue - proceed on. When you get to the confirmation screen, the price will have magically changed to $99.00. You get a free Loop Library with this (It will be mailed to you), you can also download (for free), Sound Forge XP 5 Studio, and Vegas Audio Lite, in addition you can download a snoot-full of sound effects.. man for 99.00 bucks this is the shiznit ! But MAKE sure you use MY link, it's the only way to get the deal...


 

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Michael LaMeyer"
To:
Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks
Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 12:12:19 -0400
Far out. Unfortunately I went to the site and saw Acid 3.0 only
available at $399 or $349. How do we get the $99 deal? Did we
have to download the Beta?
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Devious D_MasterMixer"
To: ;
Cc: ;
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks
> Just in case you need the link, here it is :
>
> http://www.sonicfoundry.com/promo.asp?keycode=6677
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Devious D_MasterMixer"
> Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks
> Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 00:49:33
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
------------------
> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at
http://explorer.msn.com
>
>
>

Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 5 15:32:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA32224; Sat, 5 May 2001 15:30:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 15:30:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003601c0d59a$1ca8ac70$fc518218@om> From: "Om_Audio" To: "Loopers List" , References: Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 12:32:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6728 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com It will not process my order- tried 2 different cards as well- anyone else having difficulties? Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: Devious D_MasterMixer To: mlameyer@rcn.com Cc: vbell@avantgo.com ; ldarthard@ameritech.net ; lamontwtts@hotmail.com ; dj_dirk@hotmail.com ; Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com ; Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 6:21 PM Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks Ok, use this link : http://www.sonicfoundry.com/promo.asp?keycode=6677 to get to the site. Click on the $349.97 deal. The second screen will ask you to continue - proceed on. When you get to the confirmation screen, the price will have magically changed to $99.00. You get a free Loop Library with this (It will be mailed to you), you can also download (for free), Sound Forge XP 5 Studio, and Vegas Audio Lite, in addition you can download a snoot-full of sound effects.. man for 99.00 bucks this is the shiznit ! But MAKE sure you use MY link, it's the only way to get the deal... ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 12:12:19 -0400 Far out. Unfortunately I went to the site and saw Acid 3.0 only available at $399 or $349. How do we get the $99 deal? Did we have to download the Beta? Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: ; Cc: ; Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 12:58 AM Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks > Just in case you need the link, here it is : > > http://www.sonicfoundry.com/promo.asp?keycode=6677 > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" > Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks > Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 00:49:33 > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 5 15:42:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA32496; Sat, 5 May 2001 15:41:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 15:41:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003f01c0d59b$b3453bc0$fc518218@om> From: "Om_Audio" To: References: <003601c0d59a$1ca8ac70$fc518218@om> Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 12:43:46 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6729 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Nevermind- it worked finally- - - c ----- Original Message ----- From: "Om_Audio" To: "Loopers List" ; Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 12:32 PM Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks > It will not process my order- tried 2 different cards as well- anyone else > having difficulties? > > Cliff > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Devious D_MasterMixer > To: mlameyer@rcn.com > Cc: vbell@avantgo.com ; ldarthard@ameritech.net ; lamontwtts@hotmail.com ; > dj_dirk@hotmail.com ; Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com ; > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 6:21 PM > Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks > > > Ok, use this link : http://www.sonicfoundry.com/promo.asp?keycode=6677 to > get to the site. Click on the $349.97 deal. The second screen will ask you > to continue - proceed on. When you get to the confirmation screen, the price > will have magically changed to $99.00. You get a free Loop Library with this > (It will be mailed to you), you can also download (for free), Sound Forge XP > 5 Studio, and Vegas Audio Lite, in addition you can download a snoot-full of > sound effects.. man for 99.00 bucks this is the shiznit ! But MAKE sure you > use MY link, it's the only way to get the deal... > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Michael LaMeyer" > To: > Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks > Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 12:12:19 -0400 > Far out. Unfortunately I went to the site and saw Acid 3.0 only > available at $399 or $349. How do we get the $99 deal? Did we > have to download the Beta? > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" > To: ; > Cc: ; > Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 12:58 AM > Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks > > Just in case you need the link, here it is : > > > > http://www.sonicfoundry.com/promo.asp?keycode=6677 > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" > > Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks > > Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 00:49:33 > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > -- > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 5 15:51:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA32741; Sat, 5 May 2001 15:49:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 15:49:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <00a001c0d59c$bc712500$a697800a@cso0737101> From: "Mike Feeney" To: References: <003601c0d59a$1ca8ac70$fc518218@om> <003f01c0d59b$b3453bc0$fc518218@om> Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 14:51:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <4mFjm.A.b_H.IlF96@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6730 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com everyone keeps talking about this software... i downloaded the trial version but haven't figured out how to use it yet (haven't given a huge effort yet though either, i must admit) but i'm getting antsy about missing out on the $99 deal for a software that don't know how to use! heheh. dilemmas, dilemmas... on the other hand, i'm planning on buying a mac in the near future, so maybe this would just be counterproductive... sorry for the pointless post. =) mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Om_Audio" To: Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 2:43 PM Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks > Nevermind- it worked finally- - - > > c > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Om_Audio" > To: "Loopers List" ; > > Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 12:32 PM > Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks > > > > It will not process my order- tried 2 different cards as well- anyone > else > > having difficulties? > > > > Cliff > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Devious D_MasterMixer > > To: mlameyer@rcn.com > > Cc: vbell@avantgo.com ; ldarthard@ameritech.net ; lamontwtts@hotmail.com > ; > > dj_dirk@hotmail.com ; Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com ; > > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 6:21 PM > > Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks > > > > > > Ok, use this link : http://www.sonicfoundry.com/promo.asp?keycode=6677 > to > > get to the site. Click on the $349.97 deal. The second screen will ask you > > to continue - proceed on. When you get to the confirmation screen, the > price > > will have magically changed to $99.00. You get a free Loop Library with > this > > (It will be mailed to you), you can also download (for free), Sound Forge > XP > > 5 Studio, and Vegas Audio Lite, in addition you can download a snoot-full > of > > sound effects.. man for 99.00 bucks this is the shiznit ! But MAKE sure > you > > use MY link, it's the only way to get the deal... > > > > > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > From: "Michael LaMeyer" > > To: > > Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks > > Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 12:12:19 -0400 > > Far out. Unfortunately I went to the site and saw Acid 3.0 only > > available at $399 or $349. How do we get the $99 deal? Did we > > have to download the Beta? > > Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" > > To: ; > > Cc: ; > > Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 12:58 AM > > Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks > > > Just in case you need the link, here it is : > > > > > > http://www.sonicfoundry.com/promo.asp?keycode=6677 > > > > > > > > > ----Original Message Follows---- > > > From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" > > > Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com > > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > Subject: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks > > > Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 00:49:33 > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------ > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > -- > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 5 15:56:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA00470; Sat, 5 May 2001 15:54:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 15:54:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [64.108.198.83] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: mlameyer@rcn.com Cc: vbell@avantgo.com, ldarthard@ameritech.net, lamontwtts@hotmail.com, dj_dirk@hotmail.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 19:53:18 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2001 19:53:18.0383 (UTC) FILETIME=[07CCFBF0:01C0D59D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6731 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com



Ok, use this link : http://www.sonicfoundry.com/promo.asp?keycode=6677  to get to the site. Click on the $349.97 deal. The second screen will ask you to continue - proceed on. When you get to the confirmation screen, the price will have magically changed to $99.00. You get a free Loop Library with this (It will be mailed to you), you can also download (for free), Sound Forge XP 5 Studio, and Vegas Audio Lite, in addition you can download a snoot-full of sound effects.. man for 99.00 bucks this is the shiznit ! But MAKE sure you use MY link, it's the only way to get the deal...

Oh, there will be box that asks : REFERED TO By : Please type in ldarthard@Ameritech.net . I get a free loop library if you do.


 

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Michael LaMeyer"
To:
Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks
Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 12:12:19 -0400
Far out. Unfortunately I went to the site and saw Acid 3.0 only
available at $399 or $349. How do we get the $99 deal? Did we
have to download the Beta?
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Devious D_MasterMixer"
To: ;
Cc: ;
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks
> Just in case you need the link, here it is :
>
> http://www.sonicfoundry.com/promo.asp?keycode=6677
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Devious D_MasterMixer"
> Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks
> Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 00:49:33
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------
------------------
> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at
http://explorer.msn.com
>
>
>

Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 5 16:07:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01726; Sat, 5 May 2001 16:05:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 16:05:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [64.108.198.83] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 20:04:56 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2001 20:04:56.0260 (UTC) FILETIME=[A7C49040:01C0D59E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6732 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

No, your post is not "pointless". I have been an ACID user since ACID 1.0a, and I have been a loyal Sonic Foundry customer ever since. Now this software is not geared for the "Live" performer, but rather the ReMix Artist, or DJ, or Music Producer. It's really good, if you are setting up Dance, or Dj Friendly remixes. I, being a Dj Remix Artist, just love the Beat Mapper interface, which allows me to Beat Map an Accapella, then underlay it with my own beats ( I use Fruity Loops 3 Pro to create original Beat Loops).
Now, say you are a "Live" looper, maybe yoy want to "Clean up" a taped performance. Well stick that Puppy in Acid, use the Chopper, the resequence the whole thing on the fly ! Viola, the next P-Diddy is born (without the Gun drama, but with Jenifer Lopez, oh I digress).

Buy it, use my link :  http://www.sonicfoundry.com/promo.asp?keycode=6677  then add my email address to the "Refered To by" box, and all is Good ! (email ldarthard@ameritech.net )

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Mike Feeney"
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To:
Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks
Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 14:51:11 -0500
everyone keeps talking about this software... i downloaded the trial
version but haven't figured out how to use it yet (haven't given a huge
effort yet though either, i must admit) but i'm getting antsy about missing
out on the $99 deal for a software that don't know how to use! heheh.
dilemmas, dilemmas...
on the other hand, i'm planning on buying a mac in the near future, so
maybe this would just be counterproductive...
sorry for the pointless post. =)
mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Om_Audio"
To:
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks
> Nevermind- it worked finally- - -
>
> c
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Om_Audio"
> To: "Loopers List" ;
>
> Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 12:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks
>
>
> > It will not process my order- tried 2 different cards as well- anyone
> else
> > having difficulties?
> >
> > Cliff
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Devious D_MasterMixer
> > To: mlameyer@rcn.com
> > Cc: vbell@avantgo.com ; ldarthard@ameritech.net ;
lamontwtts@hotmail.com
> ;
> > dj_dirk@hotmail.com ; Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com ;
> > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 6:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks
> >
> >
> > Ok, use this link : http://www.sonicfoundry.com/promo.asp?keycode=6677
> to
> > get to the site. Click on the $349.97 deal. The second screen will ask
you
> > to continue - proceed on. When you get to the confirmation screen, the
> price
> > will have magically changed to $99.00. You get a free Loop Library with
> this
> > (It will be mailed to you), you can also download (for free), Sound
Forge
> XP
> > 5 Studio, and Vegas Audio Lite, in addition you can download a
snoot-full
> of
> > sound effects.. man for 99.00 bucks this is the shiznit ! But MAKE sure
> you
> > use MY link, it's the only way to get the deal...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: "Michael LaMeyer"
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks
> > Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 12:12:19 -0400
> > Far out. Unfortunately I went to the site and saw Acid 3.0 only
> > available at $399 or $349. How do we get the $99 deal? Did we
> > have to download the Beta?
> > Mike
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Devious D_MasterMixer"
> > To: ;
> > Cc: ;
> > Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 12:58 AM
> > Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks
> > > Just in case you need the link, here it is :
> > >
> > > http://www.sonicfoundry.com/promo.asp?keycode=6677
> > >
> > >
> > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > From: "Devious D_MasterMixer"
> > > Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com
> > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > > Subject: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks
> > > Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 00:49:33
> > >
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------
> > ------------------
> > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at
> > http://explorer.msn.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> > --
> > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
> >
> >
> >
_________________________________________________________
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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 5 17:21:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA04028; Sat, 5 May 2001 17:19:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 17:19:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 14:18:10 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.388) From: Kevin Cooney To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v388) In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: the new iBook... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1223050249-19018365@opendoor.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6733 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi: We have been recording, mixing and mastering with a Tascam 428 board into an original IMAC 233 bondi blue machine using Digital Performer 2.7. We upgraded the IMAC to 198 megs of Ram and a fast 7200 rpm IBM hard drive. We are having a great time with this system. The sound quality at 24 bit 48 K sampling blows the doors off the old analogue input that we've used for previous Digital Performer recordings on the g3 series IMAC. Latency seems FAR less of a problem then with the old analogue input system. And yes, the sound card is built into the Tascam mixer, so you are bypassing the Mac's sound inputs and outputs. Everything is routed USB. We monitor our recording with a full range system at high db levels using Magneplaners and 400 watts a side with biamped subwoofers. Anybody telling you that USB can't sound good is listening with some other equipment then human ears. Maybe they're sampled too many mpeg3s over their mini disc systems! (Just kidding...we like both mpeg and minidisc formats for what they are, but find it ironic that USB is catching flak when it has far more bandwidth then aforementioned sound formats!) We ARE extremely interested in new firewire options. And we are also interested in adapting G4 cards as soon as possible because now that system 10 is out G4 is the chip of choice and a dual processing G4 MAC sounds like it would be great for Digital Performer 3.0. That said, you can make terrific full bandwidth recordings now at a low price. The Tascam 428 goes for a street price of about $400. And a used IMAC should be available for about the same. We would think twice before investing in a new MAC that DIDN'T have a G4 chip. But we can't believe how good things are getting for the money! Wish they had installed a USB system and a MAC in the White House instead of the primitive fossil fuel burning and not for the masses mastahs that are running the joint right now. Best, Roctologists On Friday, May 4, 2001, at 08:47 AM, rich wrote: Thanks! a little surfing later, and my eyes are opened....... i think i may have to get an iBook and turn it into my little portable recording studio.... =) remembering an earlier thread...folks were chiming in about USB not being terribly friendly to audio. seems to work fine for midi information, but y'all were commenting that for critical audio work, it might not be the best way to go. that kindof stopped my interest in the Tascam USB mixer, and also the new Event mixer (although the event's matrix system seems terribly intriguing). Is USB that bad for audio? Right now, i'm messing with the onboard sound input/outputs on a powerbook G3. Would a USB audio interface be better? worse? the firewire interfaces are starting to show up. i've had pretty good luck using Imovie with firewire to a digital video cam, but sometimes the communication between laptop and camera chokes and you have to start again. i wonder if the same will be for firewire audio. On Friday, May 4, 2001, at 08:47 AM, rich wrote: >> Thanks! a little surfing later, and my eyes are opened....... i >> think >> i may have to get an iBook and turn it into my little portable >> recording >> studio.... =) > > remembering an earlier thread...folks were chiming in about USB not > being terribly friendly to audio. seems to work fine for midi > information, but y'all were commenting that for critical audio work, it > might not be the best way to go. that kindof stopped my interest in > the Tascam USB mixer, and also the new Event mixer (although the > event's matrix system seems terribly intriguing). > > Is USB that bad for audio? Right now, i'm messing with the onboard > sound input/outputs on a powerbook G3. Would a USB audio interface be > better? worse? > > the firewire interfaces are starting to show up. i've had pretty good > luck using Imovie with firewire to a digital video cam, but sometimes > the communication between laptop and camera chokes and you have to > start again. i wonder if the same will be for firewire audio. > >> if you use a USB audio interface, does that bypass the computer's >> soundcard? > > as far as i know...yes. although the macs have never shipped with > soundcards, per se. they have always had the audio on board, with 1/8" > mini jacks for input and speaker output (some of the older AV macs > being an exception - RCA's). funny that they've now dumped the audio > in on the new powerbooks and ibooks. i've been a mac-head for about 7 > years now, and it seems that with each new generation, they come up > with something really cool, but they dump something that was useful, > too. > > anybody want a 7100/66 powermac? i'm getting a used G4 this weekend. > i'm sure someone is just dying for Nubus technology, yes? and that > 66mhz 601 chip just SMOKES...and gosh, it only cost $2300 new. > > rich > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 6 08:57:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA13031; Sun, 6 May 2001 08:55:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 08:55:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <014501c0d62b$fbab01c0$b3ae5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: Subject: Re: WTB Yamaha FS1R Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 08:56:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6734 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com $650 at Musician's Friend. Bought one but it had a vertical black streak on its display so I sent it back. I'm waitint for its replacement to arrive. Bill billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html ============================================================================ Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, send email to: emusic-wdiy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com -----Original Message----- From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) Subject: WTB Yamaha FS1R >... in a nutshell. > Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 6 09:02:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA14157; Sun, 6 May 2001 09:01:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 09:01:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <015c01c0d62c$d3482680$b3ae5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: Subject: Re: "vintage" board question Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 09:02:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6735 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have a Teac Model 5 and a Tascam M-30. Neither has phantom. Probably of similar vintage. Don't know about the 3, however. Bill billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html ============================================================================ Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, send email to: emusic-wdiy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com -----Original Message----- From: anti:clockwise >tascam model 3 - >phantom power Y / N ? >anybody here, um, "vintage" enuf to be familiar w/ this bad boy? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 6 14:38:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA27231; Sun, 6 May 2001 14:35:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 14:35:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <57.1592d3cb.2826f335@aol.com> Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 14:34:29 EDT Subject: Re: Yamaha MFC-10 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 106 Resent-Message-ID: <9IuldC.A.NpG.XlZ96@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6736 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Yamaha MFC-10? Doesn't say on yamaha web site specs. > No, it doesn't send sysex, except to back up programs. andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 6 14:51:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA27513; Sun, 6 May 2001 14:50:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 14:50:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AF59CBF.2D961EFE@zerocrossing.net> Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 11:49:46 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: sine@zerocrossing.net Organization: ZeroCrossing Multimedia Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: JamMan/Vortex foot switches References: <015c01c0d62c$d3482680$b3ae5cd1@-> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6737 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey Lexicon JamMan and Vortex owners, I just acquired a Vortex, but it did not come with any foot switches. On a whim, I tried using a couple of sustain pedals from an Ensonic keyboard put into a dual mono to stereo adapter and into the back of the units. Viola! It worked! I'm pretty sure that the Ensonic pedals are fairly standard, and they seem a lot nicer than the stock Lexicon pedals, and cheap. Tomorrow I go and get some plywood and velcro and make a nice little Lexcon control pedal. Nice. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 6 14:55:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA27646; Sun, 6 May 2001 14:54:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 14:54:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <8c.63659df.2826f79a@aol.com> Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 14:53:14 EDT Subject: Re: Cheap filters To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 106 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6738 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks to ALL who replied to my questions, especially=20 thanks to Hugo for the link. Well I heard what the "Resinator" can do,=20 3 filter sweeps with autopan , but couldn't buy it. ( discontinued) as Hugo pointed out there's already a MAM Resonator which is the same, and its available, and its even a bit cheaper at =A3139 ,=20 also found the MAM Warp 9 , which certainly seems to be a 'budget Sherman' . ...only with more possibilities , especially=20 for making short loops evolve over a longer timespan. well they're both on their way , so if folks are interested I'll post a review andy butler (EDP waiting waiting) =20 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 6 15:21:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29239; Sun, 6 May 2001 15:20:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 15:20:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 12:20:35 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) Subject: Re: JamMan/Vortex foot switches Resent-Message-ID: <9rcTb.A.uIH.jPa96@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6739 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 11:49 AM 5/6/01, Mark Sottilaro wrote: >Hey Lexicon JamMan and Vortex owners, > >I just acquired a Vortex, but it did not come with any foot switches. >On a whim, I tried using a couple of sustain pedals from an Ensonic >keyboard put into a dual mono to stereo adapter and into the back of the >units. Viola! It worked! I'm pretty sure that the Ensonic pedals are >fairly standard, and they seem a lot nicer than the stock Lexicon >pedals, and cheap. Tomorrow I go and get some plywood and velcro and >make a nice little Lexcon control pedal. Nice. I've been using a sustain pedal (it's a Roland, with 2 pedals) to control my JamMan for years. The timing seems more precise than with the standard Lex pedals as well. Good luck with the Vortex, it's an inspiring piece! ____________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org New & Improv Media http://www.newandimprov.com Now available: Admiral Twinkle Devil: Wabi Dub ____________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 6 15:47:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29665; Sun, 6 May 2001 15:44:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 15:44:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 12:22:21 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: "vintage" board question In-reply-to: <015c01c0d62c$d3482680$b3ae5cd1@-> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net (Unverified) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <015c01c0d62c$d3482680$b3ae5cd1@-> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6740 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 9:02 AM -0400 5/6/01, Bill Fox wrote: >I have a Teac Model 5 and a Tascam M-30. Neither has phantom. Probably of >similar vintage. Don't know about the 3, however. The Model 3 was sort of a junior verison of the Model 5, so no phantom power there either. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 6 15:53:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29921; Sun, 6 May 2001 15:52:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 15:52:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003a01c0d664$ab26e320$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <20.15f450c2.2823f94b@aol.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20010504143709.00d0f900@mail.groundloops.com> Subject: A Windows Setting for You Other PC Recorder Types Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 20:42:16 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6741 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I found this today after a searchabout looking for ways to unbungup a situation probably caused by beta-testing IE6 while also wanting to record more than 10 minutes into a 44100/16-bit stereo WAV file, with only 7GB disk free and 128MB of SDRAM... It solved a major limitation. Turns out there's more than just MinFileCache and MaxFileCache settings under the [vcache] area. While many recommend that one never change these, I found it necessary due to the extraordinary demands of long WAV file recording. This setting is called ChunkSize, believe it or not. If you have difficulty recording long or big multitracks under Windows, set it to the size of your motherboard's cache. As mine is 1MB, I gave it the value 1024. Problem solved! :) Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 6 19:48:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA07216; Sun, 6 May 2001 19:46:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 19:46:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002c01c0d686$124753c0$4eae5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #215 Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 19:40:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6742 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. Show #215 May 3, 2001. RECAP: On this show, I began a month-long focus on the Jodrell Bank Concert series in the UK. The feature CD at midnight was the RMI disc from the Neu Harmony 6 CDR set, Concerts at Jodrell Bank. I also played the music of Spacecraft to promote their upcoming show at the next Gathering. Jodrell Bank Concerts http://wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/2001/focus01.html#may The Gathering http://wdiyfm.org/emusic/events.html PLAYLIST: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:04 pm Tales Aldabaran In Sight Interstellar Memories (SIT Records) Spacecraft Stepping Lightly Earthtime Tapestry (Lektronic Soundscapes) Spacecraft Seed Earthtime Tapestry (Lektronic Soundscapes) Arcane Planet of the Blind Future Wreck (Neu Harmony) Medwyn Goodall Eye of the Storm Essence of Magic (New World Music) Farfield Resonance Dust + Glass (none) Vir Unis Finding the Center Live Gathering 23 (SpaceForMusic.com) Ron Boots Save It Foe A Rainy Day Close, But Not Touching (Groove) 12:00 am RMI Track 1 RMI - Concerts at Jodrell Bank (Neu Harmony) RMI Track 2 RMI - Concerts at Jodrell Bank (Neu Harmony) RMI Track 3 RMI - Concerts at Jodrell Bank (Neu Harmony) RMI Track 4 RMI - Concerts at Jodrell Bank (Neu Harmony) RMI Track 5 * RMI - Concerts at Jodrell Bank (Neu Harmony) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) NEXT SHOW: On the next EMUSIC, I'll continue the month-long focus on the Jodrell Bank concerts in the UK as typified by the 6 CDR release from Neu Harmony. The feature CD at midnight will be a board mix Minidisc version of the AirSculpture CDR. I will also play the music of Spacecraft who will appear at the next Gathering in Philadelphia on May 19th. Bill billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html ============================================================================ Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, send email to: emusic-wdiy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 6 19:54:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA07526; Sun, 6 May 2001 19:52:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 19:52:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [131.107.3.92] From: "Peter Wilson" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Fretless guitar for sale on eBay Date: Sun, 06 May 2001 16:51:38 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 May 2001 23:51:38.0837 (UTC) FILETIME=[7DF2D850:01C0D687] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6743 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com
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------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0D6EA.E6C2EEC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 01:46:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA22127; Mon, 7 May 2001 01:44:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 01:44:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002b01c0d6b8$93b038a0$2ecff7a5@com> From: "Alan Imberg" To: Subject: Brian Eno Installation at SFMOMA Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 22:42:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01C0D67D.E64DFA60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6745 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C0D67D.E64DFA60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For any SF Bay Area loopers: Today, I went to the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art to see the = "010101" exhibition. Brian Eno set up an intriguing installation. It is = a darkened room with strands of ornamental lights going from floor to = ceiling and a posed manequin in the corner. A dozen boom box CD players = playing the same looper of ambient music at different intervals were = located at key spots in the room. Thus, standing in different parts of = the room would "emphasize" a different part of the music. A very = interesting example of Eno's fascination with system-oriented art.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C0D67D.E64DFA60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
For any SF Bay Area = loopers:
Today, I went to the San Francisco = Museum of Modern=20 Art to see the "010101" exhibition. Brian Eno set up an intriguing=20 installation. It is a darkened room with strands of ornamental lights=20 going from floor to ceiling and a posed manequin in the = corner. A=20 dozen boom box CD players playing the same looper of ambient music at = different=20 intervals were located at key spots in the room. Thus, standing in = different=20 parts of the room would "emphasize" a different part of the music. A = very=20 interesting example of Eno's fascination with system-oriented art.=20
------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C0D67D.E64DFA60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 08:29:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA05175; Mon, 7 May 2001 08:26:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 08:26:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: KB305@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 08:24:40 EDT Subject: Re: Brian Eno Installation at SFMOMA To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_f.13f3398e.2827ee08_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6746 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_f.13f3398e.2827ee08_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 05/07/2001 12:44:06 AM Central Daylight Time, alan_i@sprynet.com writes: > Today, I went to the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art to see the "010101" > exhibition. Brian Eno set up an intriguing installation. It is a darkened > room with strands of ornamental lights going from floor to ceiling and a > posed manequin in the corner. A dozen boom box CD players playing the same > looper of ambient music at different intervals were located at key spots in > the room. Thus, standing in different parts of the room would "emphasize" a > different part of the music. A very interesting example of Eno's > fascination with system-oriented art. Some Christmas tree lights, a mannequin, and a bunch of jam-boxes. Speaking as a guy who used to be glommed on to Apollo and Music For (You Name It), I don't think the Domed One has much to reveal anymore. a loop supreme, k --part1_f.13f3398e.2827ee08_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 05/07/2001 12:44:06 AM Central Daylight Time,
alan_i@sprynet.com writes:


Today, I went to the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art to see the "010101"
exhibition. Brian Eno set up an intriguing installation. It is a darkened
room with strands of ornamental lights going from floor to ceiling and a
posed manequin in the corner. A dozen boom box CD players playing the same
looper of ambient music at different intervals were located at key spots in
the room. Thus, standing in different parts of the room would "emphasize" a
different part of the music. A very interesting example of Eno's
fascination with system-oriented art.



Some Christmas tree lights, a mannequin, and a bunch of jam-boxes.  

Speaking as a guy who used to be glommed on to Apollo and Music For (You Name
It), I don't think the Domed One has much to reveal anymore.

a loop supreme,

k --part1_f.13f3398e.2827ee08_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 08:35:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA05835; Mon, 7 May 2001 08:33:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 08:33:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000d01c0d6f1$eab27440$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: Article on Brian Eno in Radio Times (UK) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 13:33:25 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0D6FA.4B48BC80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6747 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0D6FA.4B48BC80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Speaking of the Domed One, there's an interview with him in this past = Sunday's Radio Times, the supplement to the Times of London. Page 15, = entitled "Brian Power". Apparently he's living in London again. Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0D6FA.4B48BC80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Speaking of the Domed One, there's an = interview=20 with him in this past Sunday's Radio Times, the supplement to the Times = of=20 London.  Page 15, entitled "Brian Power".  Apparently he's = living in=20 London again.
 
Stephen Goodman
http://www.earthlig= ht.net/Gallery_Front.html=20 - Cartoons & Illustrations
http://www.earthlight.net/Stud= ios *=20 The free Loop of the Week!
------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C0D6FA.4B48BC80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 09:44:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA09212; Mon, 7 May 2001 09:42:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 09:42:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 08:41:35 -0500 From: "Ted Geerdink" To: Subject: Re: Brian Eno Installation at SFMOMA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id JAA09152 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6748 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Lucky you! Did you get a chance to talk to Brian Eno? >>> alan_i@sprynet.com 05/07/01 12:42AM >>> For any SF Bay Area loopers: Today, I went to the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art to see the "010101" exhibition. Brian Eno set up an intriguing installation. It is a From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 11:25:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA15213; Mon, 7 May 2001 11:22:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 11:22:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 10:14:01 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <006401c0d708$59aaf460$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Content-type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 References: X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6749 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com thanks for the tip. now i'm all legal and stuff... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 11:41:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16065; Mon, 7 May 2001 11:39:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 11:39:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <01e301c0d70c$26805d60$092cf7c2@zetnet.co.uk> From: "Steve Lawson" To: "Loop List" Subject: DL4 problems Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:40:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6750 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com My DL4 has started making some rather strange noises - sounds like someone blowing into a microphone intermittently - lots of hiss and a shifting other noise... not nice at all, and likely to ruin gigs should I use it (had a solo gig Saturday and fortunately it wasn't doing it, or at least not too loud anyway... Any suggestions as to what it is and how to fix it? cheers Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 11:52:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16579; Mon, 7 May 2001 11:50:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 11:50:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Candace Meyer" To: Subject: RE: DL4 problems Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 08:50:08 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <01e301c0d70c$26805d60$092cf7c2@zetnet.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6751 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Buy a Repeater G -----Original Message----- From: Steve Lawson [mailto:steve@steve-lawson.co.uk] Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 8:41 AM To: Loop List Subject: DL4 problems My DL4 has started making some rather strange noises - sounds like someone blowing into a microphone intermittently - lots of hiss and a shifting other noise... not nice at all, and likely to ruin gigs should I use it (had a solo gig Saturday and fortunately it wasn't doing it, or at least not too loud anyway... Any suggestions as to what it is and how to fix it? cheers Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 12:05:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA18201; Mon, 7 May 2001 12:03:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 12:03:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01e301c0d70c$26805d60$092cf7c2@zetnet.co.uk> References: <01e301c0d70c$26805d60$092cf7c2@zetnet.co.uk> Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 08:57:37 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: DL4 problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6752 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Steve, dunno if this is your problem, but that's a similar sound to what the DL4 makes when you clip the inputs. Are you running a line level into it, or a very hot signal? If so, that might be the problem. If you're just running a passive guitar level signal, and it does it....hmmm...try line6 support. they are pretty helpful and should work out getting you a replacement unit if it's defective. I'm planning on getting one of the ebtech line level shifters soon, to work with the DL4 and line level signals. i'm hoping that will open up this box's flexibility. rich >My DL4 has started making some rather strange noises - sounds like >someone blowing into a microphone intermittently - lots of >hiss and a shifting other noise... not nice at all, and likely to >ruin gigs should I use it (had a solo gig Saturday and >fortunately it wasn't doing it, or at least not too loud anyway... > >Any suggestions as to what it is and how to fix it? > >cheers > >Steve >www.steve-lawson.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 12:09:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA18404; Mon, 7 May 2001 12:07:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 12:07:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 08:53:33 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: DL4 problems In-reply-to: <01e301c0d70c$26805d60$092cf7c2@zetnet.co.uk> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Loop List Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <01e301c0d70c$26805d60$092cf7c2@zetnet.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6753 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 4:40 PM +0100 5/7/01, Steve Lawson wrote: >My DL4 has started making some rather strange noises - sounds like >someone blowing into a microphone intermittently - lots of >hiss and a shifting other noise... not nice at all, and likely to >ruin gigs should I use it (had a solo gig Saturday and >fortunately it wasn't doing it, or at least not too loud anyway... > >Any suggestions as to what it is and how to fix it? Are you using an AC adapter or batteries? As I recall these units start to make noise when batteries are running low. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 12:20:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19078; Mon, 7 May 2001 12:19:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 12:19:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <021501c0d711$aaf56a40$092cf7c2@zetnet.co.uk> From: "Steve Lawson" To: References: Subject: Re: DL4 problems Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 17:20:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6754 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Buy a Repeater > G right, thanks, that was really helpful... :o) Steve From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 12:34:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19687; Mon, 7 May 2001 12:31:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 12:31:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 11:31:18 -0500 Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks From: Mike Feeney To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <006401c0d708$59aaf460$080210ac@jpalmer> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_a-mw.A.ezE.b3s96@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6755 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com on 5/7/01 10.14 AM, jim palmer at jimp@pobox.com wrote: > thanks for the tip. > now i'm all legal and stuff... > can someone forward me the link for that again? thanks, mike _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 13:21:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA22830; Mon, 7 May 2001 13:19:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 13:19:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <138FAF0D3722D311BAD00000F8093163227EE7@hdo-exchange.corporate.southam.ca> From: "Bailey, Jim" To: "'looppost'" Subject: RE: plunderphonic - one hand clapping (or four?) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 13:15:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6756 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > -----Original Message----- > From: mattlove1 [mailto:mattlove1@home.com] > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 9:26 PM > I find Oswald's stuff less compelling - it's partly > aesthetics, but I > haven't seen him articulate his issues in the same way Hosler > and Co have. John is a fairly quiet, retiring kind of guy for the most part, though he is quite firm in his convictions and will defend them vigorously. He's also not been one for tooting his own horn (except when playing alto sax with CCMC :->) Jim Bailey From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 14:11:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA26213; Mon, 7 May 2001 14:10:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:10:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AF6E57D.DA581004@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 11:23:52 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Brian Eno Installation at SFMOMA References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6757 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com KB305@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 05/07/2001 12:44:06 AM Central Daylight Time, > alan_i@sprynet.com writes: > > > >> Today, I went to the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art to see the >> "010101" >> exhibition. Brian Eno set up an intriguing installation. It is a >> darkened >> room with strands of ornamental lights going from floor to ceiling >> and a >> posed manequin in the corner. A dozen boom box CD players playing >> the same >> looper of ambient music at different intervals were located at key >> spots in >> the room. Thus, standing in different parts of the room would >> "emphasize" a >> different part of the music. A very interesting example of Eno's >> fascination with system-oriented art. > > > > > Some Christmas tree lights, a mannequin, and a bunch of jam-boxes. > > Speaking as a guy who used to be glommed on to Apollo and Music For > (You Name > It), I don't think the Domed One has much to reveal anymore. > > a loop supreme, > > k el lupo supremo, i hope you never create enough great stuff in a lifetime so that people begin to feel obligated to dis you like that! lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 14:43:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA27770; Mon, 7 May 2001 14:41:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:41:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 13:40:47 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: DL4 problems To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <00e601c0d725$3be02140$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 References: <021501c0d711$aaf56a40$092cf7c2@zetnet.co.uk> X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6758 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hey, he's right to suggest repeater. it doesn't make ANY noise... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Lawson" To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 11:20 AM Subject: Re: DL4 problems > > Buy a Repeater > > G > > right, thanks, that was really helpful... :o) > > Steve > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 14:48:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA28091; Mon, 7 May 2001 14:46:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:46:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 13:42:47 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Fw: DL4 problems To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <00f201c0d725$83777620$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: <6Qh4H.A.w2G.01u96@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6759 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com er.. she's right. sorry... ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim palmer" To: Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 1:40 PM Subject: Re: DL4 problems > hey, he's right to suggest repeater. > it doesn't make ANY noise... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Lawson" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 11:20 AM > Subject: Re: DL4 problems > > > > > Buy a Repeater > > > G > > > > right, thanks, that was really helpful... :o) > > > > Steve > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 14:58:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA28667; Mon, 7 May 2001 14:56:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 14:56:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [64.108.198.28] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: feeneymike@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 18:55:51 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2001 18:55:51.0499 (UTC) FILETIME=[561FB9B0:01C0D727] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6760 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Ok, use this link : http://www.sonicfoundry.com/promo.asp?keycode=6677  to get to the site. Click on the $349.97 deal. The second screen will ask you to continue - proceed on. When you get to the confirmation screen, the price will have magically changed to $99.00. You get a free Loop Library with this (It will be mailed to you), you can also download (for free), Sound Forge XP 5 Studio, and Vegas Audio Lite, in addition you can download a snoot-full of sound effects.. man for 99.00 bucks this is the shiznit ! But MAKE sure you use MY link, it's the only way to get the deal...

Oh, there will be box that asks : REFERED TO By : Please type in ldarthard@Ameritech.net . I get a free loop library if you do.



----Original Message Follows----
From: Mike Feeney
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To:
Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 11:31:18 -0500
on 5/7/01 10.14 AM, jim palmer at jimp@pobox.com wrote:
> thanks for the tip.
> now i'm all legal and stuff...
>
can someone forward me the link for that again?
thanks,
mike
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 16:41:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01052; Mon, 7 May 2001 16:03:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:03:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20010507150147.00805500@mail.airmail.net> X-Sender: mcl451@mail.airmail.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 15:01:47 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Michael Clark Subject: OT: Looking For A Soldano Surf Box To Add To Looping Rig Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6761 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, I'm looking for a Soldano Surf Box to add to my looping set-up. If you know of one, just email me privately. Thanks, Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 16:56:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA02594; Mon, 7 May 2001 16:48:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:48:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AF709EC.B9F91696@bellsouth.net> Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 16:47:41 -0400 From: steve Reply-To: studio_t@bellsouth.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: MPX-G2 wanted References: <3.0.3.32.20010507150147.00805500@mail.airmail.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6762 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com on the off chance one of ya'll has a Lexicon MPX G2 for sale I'm looking to give one a try peace, steve From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 18:42:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08759; Mon, 7 May 2001 18:38:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 18:38:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003601c0d746$1f0556a0$9202030a@vtr.net> Reply-To: "Daniel Cartes" From: "Daniel Cartes" To: References: Subject: Re: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 18:36:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01C0D724.92F99AC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6763 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C0D724.92F99AC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable a friend of mine is looking for any sites to dld Pro tools plug ins: for = a moderate price if not for free. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C0D724.92F99AC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
a friend of mine is looking for any = sites to dld=20 Pro tools plug ins: for a moderate price if not for=20 free.
------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C0D724.92F99AC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 19:17:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA10925; Mon, 7 May 2001 19:03:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 19:03:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 16:03:25 -0700 From: Doug Lawrence Subject: RE: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <000301c0d749$ec571b90$0382c83f@kinesys12> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6764 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I thought Looper's Delight had a deal with Sonic Foundry to get them some $$$ for purchases made through the site ... is this still active ... maybe Kim has some info on that ... >>But MAKE sure you use MY link, it's the only way to get the deal... >>Oh, there will be box that asks : >>REFERED TO By : Please type in ldarthard@Ameritech.net . From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 19:43:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12152; Mon, 7 May 2001 19:41:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 19:41:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <013301c0d74f$b5b1f1e0$848ae3a5@looppool> From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: References: <200105071605.MAA18293@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re:DL4 problems Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:44:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6765 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com G wrote to Steve Lawson: "Buy a Repeater" Has anyone ever even seen a repeater? Also, I have been having a hell of a time getting Line 6 to send back my 'in warranty' modulater pedal. It's been 7 weeks now (not counting the one week where my local tech thought he could fix the problem and wasn't able to). This has been very vexing, I must say (said in Ed Grimley's voice). Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 19:56:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12528; Mon, 7 May 2001 19:52:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 19:52:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <013301c0d74f$b5b1f1e0$848ae3a5@looppool> References: <200105071605.MAA18293@hemlock.violacea.com> <013301c0d74f$b5b1f1e0$848ae3a5@looppool> Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:46:44 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re:DL4 problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6766 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Rick, don't know if he can help you, but maybe send a mail off to: george.van.wagner@line6.com George Van Wagner heads up the line6 web board and seems to be one of main points of contact there relating to all things line6. George was extremely helpful to me in some issues with the DL4. the person he put me in touch with at line6 support got me my replacement unit sent to me within a week, if i remember corrrectly. tell him you're from looper's delight and see if he can steer you in the right direction at least. good luck. rich ps. i've seen a repeater. i liked it very much. >G wrote to Steve Lawson: >"Buy a Repeater" > > >Has anyone ever even seen a repeater? > >Also, I have been having a hell of a time getting Line 6 to send back my >'in warranty' modulater pedal. It's been 7 weeks now (not counting the one >week where my local tech thought he could fix the problem and wasn't able >to). This has been very vexing, I must say (said in Ed Grimley's voice). > >Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 20:46:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA14708; Mon, 7 May 2001 20:42:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 20:42:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: wolfmomm@mail.speakeasy.org Message-Id: Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 20:38:40 -0400 To: "Art List" From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Video performance with OutHouse playing Ornette Coleman 5.12.00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6767 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi folks, Hope you can join us for this event, which promises to be exciting. Rob Chalfen & subconsciouscafe Transgenic Music Series @ ZEITGEIST GALLERY presents ~ SATURDAY May 12 - 9pm I'll be video mixing to the music of OUThouse - The music of Ornette Coleman "in the House"! a modern dance beat take on the Master. Featuring members of Birdsongs of the Mesozoic, fresh from their triumph at the Somerville Theatre!! Michael Bierlo Ken Field Rich Scott and others! ! AND ! Fred Stubbs & Club Z The master of the nai (turkish flute) and his hand picked ensemble of savants offer an intensely sensual, improvized approach to traditional northafrican and turkish trance musics...an out-of-cambridge experience! A subcafe classic, not to be missed! A paltry $8! Why not shut off the goddamned tv, come down and check it out? ZEITGEIST GALLERY 312 Broadway, cr Norfolk, off Central Sq. Cambridge 617.876.2182 Upcoming events 5.19.01 @Zeitgeist w Immersion Music Salon 5.26.01 @Flywheel (Easthampton MA) w Immersion Music Salon -- "Once the search is in progress, something will be found" -- Brian Eno and Peter Schmidt Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 21:04:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA16203; Mon, 7 May 2001 21:01:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:01:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 20:00:39 -0500 From: "Ted Geerdink" To: Subject: Repeater Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id VAA16164 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6768 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Who makes the repeater? Is there a website that tells about them? Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 21:12:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA16366; Mon, 7 May 2001 21:09:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:09:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010507180745.02153040@mail.redmoon-music.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.redmoon-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 18:08:15 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: Repeater In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6769 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Ted Geerdink (06:00 PM 05/07/01) wrote: >Who makes the repeater? >Is there a website that tells about them? Electrix: http://www.electrixpro.com/ Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 21:22:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA16685; Mon, 7 May 2001 21:20:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:20:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Jhsidlo@aol.com Message-ID: <5a.1532b108.2828a336@aol.com> Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:17:42 EDT Subject: Jon Catler To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 Resent-Message-ID: <48AgLC.A.dEE.xm096@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6770 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Somebody's probably done a thread on this. But I just got Jon Catler's "Evolution for Electric Guitar and Orchestra" CD. Very, very good!! Later, James H. Sidlo From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 21:30:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA16919; Mon, 7 May 2001 21:27:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 21:27:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AF74C8D.38997809@virtulink.com> Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 21:31:57 -0400 From: David Beardsley Organization: SSI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jon Catler References: <5a.1532b108.2828a336@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6771 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Jhsidlo@aol.com wrote: > > Somebody's probably done a thread on this. But I just got Jon Catler's > "Evolution for Electric Guitar and Orchestra" CD. Very, very good!! > > Later, James H. Sidlo And he's a Boomerang user too! Catch Evolution in concert in NYC on June 14th, 2001 - http://microtones.com/woot Come hear me too, Blurry Day -June 22,2001! Do you live in Texas? Jon told me yesterday he sold two cds to someone in Texas recently. db -- * D a v i d B e a r d s l e y * 49/32 R a d i o "all microtonal, all the time" * http://www.virtulink.com/immp/lookhere.htm * http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 23:23:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA22697; Mon, 7 May 2001 23:20:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 23:20:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "omjn" To: Subject: RE: Repeater Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 11:19:10 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.2.20010507180745.02153040@mail.redmoon-music.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6772 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi speaking of repeater, it's turned up in the catalog of the australian distributor with a price (insert enormous amount of australian dollars here). I contacted them about this and they said "shipping in june". don't know if this means anything though, given the on and off shipping dates of past. omjn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 23:28:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA22925; Mon, 7 May 2001 23:25:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 23:25:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Anthony.Hancock@ing.com.au X-Lotus-FromDomain: ING-MM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <4A256A46.001262B5.00@ingsydhog2.mercantilemutual.com.au> Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:20:46 +1000 Subject: RE: Repeater in Oz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <_1zWyC.A.ulF.Jc296@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6773 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I saw that last November they had a AUD price of 1500 - has that changed? Suppose it will only go up...... Cheers, Anthony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 23:35:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA23237; Mon, 7 May 2001 23:32:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 23:32:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "omjn" To: Subject: RE: Repeater in Oz Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 11:31:16 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: <4A256A46.001262B5.00@ingsydhog2.mercantilemutual.com.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6774 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com well, its up to to the hard to resist bargain of aud$1899. not bad for a non shipping product... omjn -----Original Message----- From: Anthony.Hancock@ing.com.au [mailto:Anthony.Hancock@ing.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, 8 May 2001 11:21 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Repeater in Oz I saw that last November they had a AUD price of 1500 - has that changed? Suppose it will only go up...... Cheers, Anthony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 23:35:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA23343; Mon, 7 May 2001 23:33:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 23:33:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010507202709.0204f9d0@mail.redmoon-music.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.redmoon-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 20:30:49 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: RE: Repeater In-Reply-To: References: <5.1.0.14.2.20010507180745.02153040@mail.redmoon-music.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6775 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com omjn (08:19 PM 05.07.2001) wrote: >speaking of repeater, it's turned up in the catalog of the australian >distributor with a price (insert enormous amount of australian dollars >here). I contacted them about this and they said "shipping in june". don't >know if this means anything though, given the on and off shipping dates of >past. Yeah, it's shown up in catalogs and print ads a couple of times. That happens because of the lead time required to get an ad into a mag or for the distributor to secure space in a dealer's catalog. The last official word from Electrix was a letter from the president of Electrix which was forwarded to the list by Jamie Drouin (also of Electrix). In there, it's said that (as of the date of the letter) the new ship date looked like early June. The letter is also on the front page of their website: http://www.electrixpro.com/ Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 23:35:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA23342; Mon, 7 May 2001 23:33:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 23:33:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010507202639.020afce0@mail.redmoon-music.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.redmoon-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 20:27:07 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: RE: Repeater in Oz In-Reply-To: <4A256A46.001262B5.00@ingsydhog2.mercantilemutual.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <0rvl8.A.hsF.lj296@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6776 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Anthony.Hancock@ing.com.au (08:20 PM 05.07.2001) wrote: >I saw that last November they had a AUD price of 1500 - has that changed? >Suppose it will only go up...... That's basically the US list price. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 7 23:36:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA23380; Mon, 7 May 2001 23:33:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 23:33:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 04:41:01 +0100 Subject: Re: Repeater From: Martin Shellard To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6777 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Uh oh, here we go again.... Martin Shellard > From: "Ted Geerdink" > > Who makes the repeater? > Is there a website that tells about them? > > Ted > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 01:20:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA28548; Tue, 8 May 2001 01:16:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 01:16:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [208.245.109.15] From: "max valentino" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DL4 problems Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 05:15:28 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 May 2001 05:15:28.0376 (UTC) FILETIME=[E544F780:01C0D77D] Resent-Message-ID: <3KCHEB.A.q9G.PE496@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6778 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Steve; When I first ordered my DL4 I rec'd one that did make some similar noises (and some really worse stuff too!) It was unusable and I was bummed...but I called Line 6 and got a replacement pronto! Of course..I am in Southern Calif...and you are in England. Try e-mailing Line 6 first. With your rep and credentials they should jump at the chance to help you out. Geez...hope mine doesn't start acting up, too! Loop On....Max >From: "Steve Lawson" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: "Loop List" >Subject: DL4 problems >Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 16:40:49 +0100 > >My DL4 has started making some rather strange noises - sounds like someone >blowing into a microphone intermittently - lots of >hiss and a shifting other noise... not nice at all, and likely to ruin gigs >should I use it (had a solo gig Saturday and >fortunately it wasn't doing it, or at least not too loud anyway... > >Any suggestions as to what it is and how to fix it? > >cheers > >Steve >www.steve-lawson.co.uk > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 01:25:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA28812; Tue, 8 May 2001 01:23:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 01:23:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [64.108.199.57] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 05:22:37 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 May 2001 05:22:37.0296 (UTC) FILETIME=[E4ECF700:01C0D77E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6779 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

I don't know if that deal is still active for special promotions....? I just purchased the software, and in doing so, I was made aware of that deal. I will assure you, that ACID 3.0 won't get any cheaper than $99.00, so check it out..... besides help a fellow looper get some free LOOPS !

----Original Message Follows----
From: Doug Lawrence
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: RE: Acid 3.0 - 99.00 Bucks
Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 16:03:25 -0700
I thought Looper's Delight had a deal with Sonic Foundry to get them some
$$$ for purchases made through the site ... is this still active ... maybe
Kim has some info on that ...
>>But MAKE sure you use MY link, it's the only way to get the deal...
>>Oh, there will be box that asks :
>>REFERED TO By : Please type in ldarthard@Ameritech.net .

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 09:15:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA11665; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:11:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 09:11:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <21.b543377.282949dd@aol.com> Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 09:08:45 EDT Subject: Re: Logic looping ---> Pluggo vs. Spektral Delay? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <6RxRqD.A.s1C.QA_96@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6780 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com rich@nuvisionsca.com writes: >can you give us some directions to 'mda' and 'bubu'? sorry, i've been really busy; maybe ye could do a websearch on 'free VST plug-ins', eh? >if i recall, you are mainly using logic on mac, yes? yes. >so you are using pluggo as a vst plug-in through logic? yes. >which version of logic >are you using? silver/gold/platinum? platinum. >dumb question...what exactly is 'host-sync'? when the VST plug-in sees tempo/sync information from the hosting-program..... off to my oldest son's university graduation, now! best, dt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 10:08:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA14076; Tue, 8 May 2001 10:05:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 10:05:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [198.81.17.58] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re:DL4 problems Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 14:04:00 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 May 2001 14:04:01.0138 (UTC) FILETIME=[BB8C6D20:01C0D7C7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6781 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com


A repeater is a gun from the wild west that would shoot multiple times.......how could he loop with that.......????

Buy a Repeater"

>
>
>Has anyone ever even seen a repeater?
>
>Also, I have been having a hell of a time getting Line 6 to send back my
>'in warranty' modulater pedal. It's been 7 weeks now (not counting the one
>week where my local tech thought he could fix the problem and wasn't able
>to). This has been very vexing, I must say (said in Ed Grimley's voice).
>
>Rick Walker
>

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 10:10:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA14139; Tue, 8 May 2001 10:07:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 10:07:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AF7FD35.21484D55@bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 10:05:41 -0400 From: "Jeff Duke (echo17)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Mike Nelson & the Boomerang upgrade Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6782 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi ya'll, i still need the upgrade kit for my boomer, I have written Mr. Nelson but I think that he is possibly still on leave. does anyone have anymore info? btw, my 'rang has 4megs, and the proper 1845 ad/da converter. all i need is the upgrade and a 2134 op amp that needs to be replaced due to a "pop" when i engage the thru mute function. peace to all, jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 10:31:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA14531; Tue, 8 May 2001 10:27:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 10:27:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AF8020B.C0BA9C43@fullcompass.com> Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 09:26:19 -0500 From: "Jim Schaefer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Mike Nelson & the Boomerang upgrade References: <3AF7FD35.21484D55@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6783 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com It took me a while to get through to Mike as well. The best way is to email him and tell him you wanna buy the op amp and that you are going to send a check. He will respond. - Jim "Jeff Duke (echo17)" wrote: > > hi ya'll, i still need the upgrade kit for my > boomer, I have written Mr. Nelson but I think that > he is possibly still on leave. does anyone have > anymore info? btw, my 'rang has 4megs, and the > proper 1845 ad/da converter. all i need is the > upgrade and a 2134 op amp that needs to be replaced > due to a "pop" when i engage the thru mute function. > > peace to all, jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 11:47:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA17101; Tue, 8 May 2001 11:40:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 11:40:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 08:35:57 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: Re: Repeater Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id LAA17025 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6784 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'd tell you, but I don't want to 'repeat' myself... 8-) Maybe check the archives? -Miko >>> tgeerdi@wpo.it.luc.edu 05/07/01 06:00PM >>> Who makes the repeater? Is there a website that tells about them? Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 13:13:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA21512; Tue, 8 May 2001 13:09:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:09:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 10:05:53 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Subject: Re: FESTIVAL of VOICE + ELECTRONICS this coming TUESDAY, MAY 8th at 8 p.m. at the RIO THEATRE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id NAA21393 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6785 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sorry this is so late but for those interested... >>> "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" 05/03/01 04:00AM >>> Hi, gang, Please check out this really cool and free event next Tuesday, May 8th at 8 p.m. at the Rio Theatre in Santa Cruz (specific information follows) THE 1st SANTA CRUZ FESTIVAL OF VOICE + ELECTRONICA TUESDAY, MAY 8th RIO THEATRE, SANTA CRUZ, CALIFORNIA with special guest artist: live video animator, David Tristram is a reality, thanks to Laurence Bedford's (owner of the Rio Theatre) generosity!!!! it is FREE, FREE, FREE, FREE, FREE, FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We are: John Whooley (vox, processing and our headliner), Amy Excolere (vox), Bill Walker (processing), Miko B (processing), Simran Gleason (vox, processing) and co., Johnathan Arthur (vox), Richard Salzberg (vox), Martyn St. Michael and co. (vox), George DeMarest (vox, processing), Jeremy Zumaran (vox, processing), Tony DeCicco (vox), and myself, Rick Walker (M.C., vox, processing, publicity, postering and autocratic stage managing ;-). CENTRAL INTENT OF THE SHOW: The central metaphor for the entire show is to have acapella improvisational singing in several different styles (overtone singing, opera, avante garde, death metal, industrial beatbox, trip hop, pop, angelic chanting, mouth farts or whatever) to be manipulated by electronic processing artists (looping, pitch shifting, vocoding, filtering, et. al). The singers will have no 'control' over the processors, nor will the processors have any control over what they are given to 'process' This can have really beautiful results if everybody has their best listening and creativity hats on (physical hats are not required ;-) The one rule of the show is VOICE ONLY....................NO OTHER INSTRUMENTS and NO PRERECORDED SAMPLES (even of voice) We will be joined by special guest artist David Tristam (live video animation and visual processing) and Ed Atkins (tentatively on lighting design ;-),Victor Revere (sound and facilitation), Bob Caine (on live sound recording and facilitation;-) and last but not least, Laurence Bedford (venue, patronage and spiritual guidance and the lovely and talented Sabine Freudiger (spiritual guidance and good vibes). The show is Tuesday night, May 8th at the RIO THEATRE at Soquel and Seabright. It will begin at 8 p.m. and continue until it is finished. I'm very, very excited to be working with such incredibly talented and fearless improvisers as yourselves. I think we may break some new ground, artistically and maybe create some new vocal 'vocabulary' in the process. "All composition is just very slow improvisation" -- Arnold Schoenberg Thanks, Rick Walker (aka, loop.pool) P.S. I will be performing a solo looping set as the opener for the legendary RESIDENTS on May 26 at the RIO THEATRE. I'm so jazzed, I can't see straight~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (what ridiculous emoticom is used for giddy excitement?) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 13:21:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA21737; Tue, 8 May 2001 13:15:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:15:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 12:13:31 -0500 From: "Ted Geerdink" To: Subject: Re: Repeater Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id NAA21707 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6786 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wow, I sense some arrogance on this list. I asked one simple question about a brand new LOOPING product that isn't even out on the market yet and was reprimanded off-list and now a cocky response on-list. Miko, what's the point in telling me to check out the archives when two people were already kind enough to post the link? Or do you only read the archives and disregard the current posts? It's not like I was asking for pirated software. And I wasn't trying to sell Acid Pro for $99. I just wanted to know what the Repeater is. I'm fairly new to the list but have been looping for about 10 years, mostly with reel-to-reel and old Digitech pedals. I suppose that's not cool though. On this list you're only cool if you have a Jamman, a Boomerang, and/or Acid Pro. Thanks to those of you who were nice and sent me the link to the Repeater. Time to unsubscribe though. Ted >>> Mbiffle@svg.com 05/08/01 10:35AM >>> I'd tell you, but I don't want to 'repeat' myself... 8-) Maybe check the archives? -Miko >>> tgeerdi@wpo.it.luc.edu 05/07/01 06:00PM >>> Who makes the repeater? Is there a website that tells about them? Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 13:32:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA22219; Tue, 8 May 2001 13:27:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:27:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 10:24:31 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: Re: Repeater Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id NAA22166 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6787 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Ted, It's not that we're uber-cool... I use anything I can get my hands on to loop. We've just gone around and around ad-nausea about the forthcoming Repeater... I thought I had coined a funny phrase, albeit at your expense. Sorry. If you would just do a search of the archives for 'Repeater' you'll understand what all the replies are about. You'd be surprised how much stuff you can find in the archives by the way... You've just come along a bit late and got caught in the crossfire. I apologize for this. I hadn't read all the posts and just replied to yours. Peace, -Miko >>> tgeerdi@wpo.it.luc.edu 05/08/01 10:13AM >>> Wow, I sense some arrogance on this list. I asked one simple question about a brand new LOOPING product that isn't even out on the market yet and was reprimanded off-list and now a cocky response on-list. Miko, what's the point in telling me to check out the archives when two people were already kind enough to post the link? Or do you only read the archives and disregard the current posts? It's not like I was asking for pirated software. And I wasn't trying to sell Acid Pro for $99. I just wanted to know what the Repeater is. I'm fairly new to the list but have been looping for about 10 years, mostly with reel-to-reel and old Digitech pedals. I suppose that's not cool though. On this list you're only cool if you have a Jamman, a Boomerang, and/or Acid Pro. Thanks to those of you who were nice and sent me the link to the Repeater. Time to unsubscribe though. Ted >>> Mbiffle@svg.com 05/08/01 10:35AM >>> I'd tell you, but I don't want to 'repeat' myself... 8-) Maybe check the archives? -Miko >>> tgeerdi@wpo.it.luc.edu 05/07/01 06:00PM >>> Who makes the repeater? Is there a website that tells about them? Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 13:38:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA22310; Tue, 8 May 2001 13:31:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:31:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [204.253.195.194] From: "matt davignon" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FESTIVAL of VOICE + ELECTRONICS this coming TUESDAY, MAY 8th at 8 p.m. at the RIO THEATRE Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 10:30:31 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 May 2001 17:30:31.0370 (UTC) FILETIME=[94B3CAA0:01C0D7E4] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6788 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Aargh! You're such a tease! I really wanted to go to this, but I'm looking at apartments all week. (I'm getting a good kick in the pants for finding a new place, in that my apartment is about to be condemned.) I'd submit a request that you guys have these things on weekends, but I understand that the theatre is probably tied up on weekends all the time. Everybody who can, go to this! It will be worth your while! Matt Davignon >From: "Mike Biffle" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >Subject: Re: FESTIVAL of VOICE + ELECTRONICS this coming TUESDAY, MAY 8th >at 8 p.m. at the RIO THEATRE >Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 10:05:53 -0700 > >Sorry this is so late but for those interested... > > >>> "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" 05/03/01 04:00AM >>> >Hi, gang, Please check out this really cool and free event next Tuesday, >May 8th at 8 p.m. at the Rio Theatre in Santa Cruz (specific information >follows) > > THE 1st SANTA CRUZ >FESTIVAL OF VOICE + ELECTRONICA > TUESDAY, MAY 8th >RIO THEATRE, SANTA CRUZ, CALIFORNIA >with special guest artist: live video animator, David Tristram > >is a reality, thanks to Laurence Bedford's (owner of the Rio Theatre) >generosity!!!! > >it is FREE, FREE, FREE, FREE, FREE, FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >We are: John Whooley (vox, processing and our headliner), Amy Excolere >(vox), Bill Walker (processing), Miko B (processing), Simran Gleason (vox, >processing) and co., Johnathan Arthur (vox), Richard Salzberg (vox), Martyn >St. Michael and co. (vox), George DeMarest (vox, processing), Jeremy >Zumaran (vox, processing), Tony DeCicco (vox), and myself, Rick Walker >(M.C., vox, processing, publicity, postering and autocratic stage managing >;-). > >CENTRAL INTENT OF THE SHOW: >The central metaphor for the entire show is to have acapella >improvisational singing in several different styles (overtone singing, >opera, avante garde, death metal, industrial beatbox, trip hop, pop, >angelic chanting, mouth farts or whatever) to be manipulated by electronic >processing artists (looping, pitch shifting, vocoding, filtering, et. al). > >The singers will have no 'control' over the processors, nor will the >processors have any control over what they are given to 'process' >This can have really beautiful results if everybody has their best >listening and creativity hats on (physical hats are not required ;-) >The one rule of the show is VOICE ONLY....................NO OTHER >INSTRUMENTS and NO PRERECORDED SAMPLES (even of voice) > >We will be joined by special guest artist David Tristam (live video >animation and visual processing) and Ed Atkins (tentatively on lighting >design ;-),Victor Revere (sound and facilitation), Bob Caine (on live >sound recording and facilitation;-) and last but not least, >Laurence Bedford (venue, patronage and spiritual guidance and the lovely >and talented Sabine Freudiger (spiritual guidance and good vibes). > >The show is Tuesday night, May 8th at the RIO THEATRE at Soquel and >Seabright. It will begin at 8 p.m. and continue until it is finished. > > I'm very, very excited to be working with such incredibly talented and >fearless improvisers as yourselves. I think we may break some new ground, >artistically and maybe create some new vocal 'vocabulary' in the process. > >"All composition is just very slow improvisation" -- Arnold Schoenberg > >Thanks, Rick Walker (aka, loop.pool) > >P.S. I will be performing a solo looping set as the opener for the >legendary RESIDENTS on May 26 at the RIO THEATRE. >I'm so jazzed, I can't see straight~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (what ridiculous >emoticom is used for giddy excitement?) > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 13:45:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA22626; Tue, 8 May 2001 13:43:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:43:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AF84B78.B5E8D69A@vtx.ch> Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 19:39:36 +0000 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repeater References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3CPo6.A.IhF.Z_C-6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6789 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Ted Geerdink wrote: > > Wow, I sense some arrogance on this list. I asked one simple question about a brand new LOOPING product that isn't even out on the market yet and was reprimanded off-list and now a cocky response on-list. Miko, what's the point in telling me to check out the archives when two people were already kind enough to post the link? Or do you only read the archives and disregard the current posts? It's not like I was asking for pirated software. And I wasn't trying to sell Acid Pro for $99. I just wanted to know what the Repeater is. I'm fairly new to the list but have been looping for about 10 years, mostly with reel-to-reel and old Digitech pedals. I suppose that's not cool though. On this list you're only cool if you have a Jamman, a Boomerang, and/or Acid Pro. > > Thanks to those of you who were nice and sent me the link to the Repeater. > > Time to unsubscribe though. > > Ted Ted if you can't stand Miko's arrogance ask about Orville on the list and fear.... bye bye Claude to unsubcribe 1-click next line link mailto:Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com 2-delete your signature, etc... make your message blank 3-turn off all HTML in your favorite mail application 4-double click (highlight) the sacred word on next line then copy (contr+C ) SACRED WORD--> unsubscribe <--SACRED WORD 5-place cursor in Subject of the message Paste (contr+V) 6-place cursor in Body of the message Paste (contr+V) 7-click send From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 14:21:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA24280; Tue, 8 May 2001 14:12:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:12:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 11:08:57 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: Re: FESTIVAL of VOICE + ELECTRONICS this coming TUESDAY, MAY 8th at 8 p.m. at the RIO THEATRE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id OAA24227 Resent-Message-ID: <4Nuo_D.A.y6F.OaD-6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6790 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sorry Matt... Seeing as this is a FREE show, Rick was constrained by available time slots.... We'll be super famous after this show and will have no trouble booking the big halls on weekends. *-) Good luck on the house hunt! Best, -Miko >>> mattdavignon@hotmail.com 05/08/01 10:30AM >>> Aargh! You're such a tease! I really wanted to go to this, but I'm looking at apartments all week. (I'm getting a good kick in the pants for finding a new place, in that my apartment is about to be condemned.) I'd submit a request that you guys have these things on weekends, but I understand that the theatre is probably tied up on weekends all the time. Everybody who can, go to this! It will be worth your while! Matt Davignon >From: "Mike Biffle" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >Subject: Re: FESTIVAL of VOICE + ELECTRONICS this coming TUESDAY, MAY 8th >at 8 p.m. at the RIO THEATRE >Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 10:05:53 -0700 > >Sorry this is so late but for those interested... > > >>> "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" 05/03/01 04:00AM >>> >Hi, gang, Please check out this really cool and free event next Tuesday, >May 8th at 8 p.m. at the Rio Theatre in Santa Cruz (specific information >follows) > > THE 1st SANTA CRUZ >FESTIVAL OF VOICE + ELECTRONICA > TUESDAY, MAY 8th >RIO THEATRE, SANTA CRUZ, CALIFORNIA >with special guest artist: live video animator, David Tristram > >is a reality, thanks to Laurence Bedford's (owner of the Rio Theatre) >generosity!!!! > >it is FREE, FREE, FREE, FREE, FREE, FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >We are: John Whooley (vox, processing and our headliner), Amy Excolere >(vox), Bill Walker (processing), Miko B (processing), Simran Gleason (vox, >processing) and co., Johnathan Arthur (vox), Richard Salzberg (vox), Martyn >St. Michael and co. (vox), George DeMarest (vox, processing), Jeremy >Zumaran (vox, processing), Tony DeCicco (vox), and myself, Rick Walker >(M.C., vox, processing, publicity, postering and autocratic stage managing >;-). > >CENTRAL INTENT OF THE SHOW: >The central metaphor for the entire show is to have acapella >improvisational singing in several different styles (overtone singing, >opera, avante garde, death metal, industrial beatbox, trip hop, pop, >angelic chanting, mouth farts or whatever) to be manipulated by electronic >processing artists (looping, pitch shifting, vocoding, filtering, et. al). > >The singers will have no 'control' over the processors, nor will the >processors have any control over what they are given to 'process' >This can have really beautiful results if everybody has their best >listening and creativity hats on (physical hats are not required ;-) >The one rule of the show is VOICE ONLY....................NO OTHER >INSTRUMENTS and NO PRERECORDED SAMPLES (even of voice) > >We will be joined by special guest artist David Tristam (live video >animation and visual processing) and Ed Atkins (tentatively on lighting >design ;-),Victor Revere (sound and facilitation), Bob Caine (on live >sound recording and facilitation;-) and last but not least, >Laurence Bedford (venue, patronage and spiritual guidance and the lovely >and talented Sabine Freudiger (spiritual guidance and good vibes). > >The show is Tuesday night, May 8th at the RIO THEATRE at Soquel and >Seabright. It will begin at 8 p.m. and continue until it is finished. > > I'm very, very excited to be working with such incredibly talented and >fearless improvisers as yourselves. I think we may break some new ground, >artistically and maybe create some new vocal 'vocabulary' in the process. > >"All composition is just very slow improvisation" -- Arnold Schoenberg > >Thanks, Rick Walker (aka, loop.pool) > >P.S. I will be performing a solo looping set as the opener for the >legendary RESIDENTS on May 26 at the RIO THEATRE. >I'm so jazzed, I can't see straight~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ (what ridiculous >emoticom is used for giddy excitement?) > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 14:21:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA24506; Tue, 8 May 2001 14:18:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:18:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AF837E2.204D9F3A@zerocrossing.net> Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 11:16:01 -0700 X-Sybari-Trust: 01f15bb7 050014e1 00000000 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Repeater demo in Marin Co. CA. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4ogxR.A.c8F.9fD-6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6791 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I got a flyer from a music store called "Banana's At Large" in San Rafael, CA...(if memory serves, I think it's on 4th St.) and there's going to be a Repeater demo given there on the 19th of this month. I don't know the details (left the flyer home) but I'm sure you can look them up and give them a call for more info. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 14:26:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA24561; Tue, 8 May 2001 14:20:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:20:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 11:17:29 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Subject: Re: Repeater and on... and on... and on... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id OAA24508 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6792 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Ted Geerdink wrote: >> Wow, I sense some arrogance on this list... snip! > if you can't stand Miko's arrogance ask about Orville on the list and fear.... bye bye, Claude Yeah Ted... I'm arrogant... but less so than everyone else here! *-) Hardly anyone on earth can afford an Orville so we *really* get on Claude for rubbing our face in *that* piece-o-gear we can't buy! And thanks Claude for that handy 'unsubscribe' routine below... how... ummm... helpful! A slightly thicker skin might help in these cases along with a sense of humor. Buy hey! If someone needs to feel offended I'm sure they'll find a way! (I try to limit myself to 1 emoticon per email, so mine's all used up...) Best, -Miko to unsubcribe 1-click next line link mailto:Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com 2-delete your signature, etc... make your message blank 3-turn off all HTML in your favorite mail application 4-double click (highlight) the sacred word on next line then copy (contr+C ) SACRED WORD--> unsubscribe <--SACRED WORD 5-place cursor in Subject of the message Paste (contr+V) 6-place cursor in Body of the message Paste (contr+V) 7-click send From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 14:33:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA24952; Tue, 8 May 2001 14:32:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:32:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AF83BB1.CDEB1002@bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 14:32:20 -0400 From: steve Reply-To: studio_t@bellsouth.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repeater and on... and on... and on... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6793 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've heard that arrogance is now hip, I had thought about becoming a nice guy but now I think I'll hold on to my attitude T From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 14:49:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25450; Tue, 8 May 2001 14:46:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:46:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Sender: simran@phys-ha2mpkb-16.Eng.Sun.COM Message-ID: <3AF83EED.2ED9DF69@Sun.COM> Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 11:46:05 -0700 From: Simran gleason Reply-To: Simran.Gleason@Sun.COM Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76C-CCK-MCD Netscape [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repeater and on... and on... and on... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6794 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Not only is arrogance now hip, but the Againinator has just added a new hip replacement facility. You can select your hip program using the new built-in chaotic pad slider. Available programs range from arrogance, through uber-cool, to the ultra-postmodern deconstruction critique generator. What that last setting does is to mix in a running critique of how derivative your loops are and where you got all your samples. On the special surround-sound-enhanced againinators, it places the critique in the soundspace at about the fourth row, left aisle of the audience. The Againinator uses it's hall-simulating reverb unit to detrmine the size of the hall and figure out where to place the critique. Coming in the next version is the option to choose the voice option. You will optionally have the option of choosing a gravelly roland barthes, a high pitched beaudrillard, or woody-allen in reverse. For now you only get the macOS simulation of stephen hawking. Get the upgrade! Simran > Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:30:51 -0400 > Old-Return-Path: > Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 14:32:20 -0400 > From: steve > X-Accept-Language: en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Repeater and on... and on... and on... > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Resent-Message-ID: > Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6793 > X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > > I've heard that arrogance is now hip, I had thought about becoming a > nice guy but now I think I'll hold on to my attitude > > T > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 14:55:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25699; Tue, 8 May 2001 14:53:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:53:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003201c0d7ef$da6e6f40$1eac1597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: References: <3AF84B78.B5E8D69A@vtx.ch> Subject: Re: Repeater Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 20:51:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6795 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ....so that you're going to hear something about a serious looping AND fx device that might be VERY interesting for you, Ted! Italo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Claude Voit" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2001 9:39 PM Subject: Re: Repeater > Ted Geerdink wrote: > > > > Wow, I sense some arrogance on this list. I asked one simple question about a brand new LOOPING product that isn't even out on the market yet and was reprimanded off-list and now a cocky response on-list. Miko, what's the point in telling me to check out the archives when two people were already kind enough to post the link? Or do you only read the archives and disregard the current posts? It's not like I was asking for pirated software. And I wasn't trying to sell Acid Pro for $99. I just wanted to know what the Repeater is. I'm fairly new to the list but have been looping for about 10 years, mostly with reel-to-reel and old Digitech pedals. I suppose that's not cool though. On this list you're only cool if you have a Jamman, a Boomerang, and/or Acid Pro. > > > > Thanks to those of you who were nice and sent me the link to the Repeater. > > > > Time to unsubscribe though. > > > > Ted > > Ted > > if you can't stand Miko's arrogance ask about Orville on the list and > fear.... > > bye bye > > Claude > > > > > to unsubcribe > > 1-click next line link > mailto:Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > > 2-delete your signature, etc... make your message blank > > 3-turn off all HTML in your favorite mail application > > 4-double click (highlight) the sacred word on next line then > copy (contr+C ) > SACRED WORD--> unsubscribe <--SACRED WORD > > 5-place cursor in Subject of the message > Paste (contr+V) > > 6-place cursor in Body of the message > Paste (contr+V) > > 7-click send > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 15:01:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25841; Tue, 8 May 2001 14:56:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 14:56:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 11:54:31 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: Re: Repeater and on... and on... and on... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id OAA25801 Resent-Message-ID: <9V5My.A.YTG.8EE-6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6796 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'm so arrogant that I'm bald... dress like a schlub... have a pencil protector... make a lot of nasty noise... and don't even care! How whack is that? -Miko >>> steve 05/08/01 11:32AM >>> I've heard that arrogance is now hip, I had thought about becoming a nice guy but now I think I'll hold on to my attitude. T From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 16:06:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA29493; Tue, 8 May 2001 16:03:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 16:03:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00f201c0d7fa$802cf640$a982e3a5@looppool> From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: References: <200105081431.KAA14643@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re:Does the repeater really exist? Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 13:07:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6797 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Seriously, is the Repeater finally for sale in the Northern Califronia area? If so, who has one that I can go demo. yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 16:12:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA29662; Tue, 8 May 2001 16:07:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 16:07:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010508130531.01e112a0@mail.redmoon-music.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.redmoon-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 13:05:48 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re:Does the repeater really exist? In-Reply-To: <00f201c0d7fa$802cf640$a982e3a5@looppool> References: <200105081431.KAA14643@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6798 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Rick Walker (loop.pool) (01:07 PM 05/08/01) wrote: >Seriously, is the Repeater finally for sale in the Northern Califronia >area? If so, who has one that I can go demo. No, it has not been released yet. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 19:06:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA02849; Tue, 8 May 2001 18:54:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 18:54:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Pedro Felix" To: Subject: Re: Repeater Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 18:52:57 -0500 Message-ID: <01c0d81a$01d10a00$566b580c@Wroswick.uvm.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6799 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com -----Original Message----- From: Ted Geerdink Subject: Re: Repeater I suppose that's not cool though. On this list you're only cool if you have a Jamman, a Boomerang, and/or Acid Pro. Don't forget the EDP! >Thanks to those of you who were nice and sent me the link to the Repeater. > >Time to unsubscribe though. That's a shame most of these folks are quite kind and chock full of information as are the archives, but ah er, you've already heard that. >Ted > PedrOOrdeP From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 19:18:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04557; Tue, 8 May 2001 19:16:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 19:16:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <4b.b43733b.2829d7ed@aol.com> Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 19:14:53 EDT Subject: Re: Logic looping ---> Pluggo vs. Spektral Delay? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4b.b43733b.2829d7ed_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6800 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_4b.b43733b.2829d7ed_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/8/01 9:10:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Hedewa7@aol.com writes: > off to my oldest son's university graduation, now! > neat!.....michael --part1_4b.b43733b.2829d7ed_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/8/01 9:10:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Hedewa7@aol.com
writes:


off to my oldest son's university graduation, now!


neat!.....michael --part1_4b.b43733b.2829d7ed_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 8 19:28:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04933; Tue, 8 May 2001 19:27:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 19:27:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 19:25:40 EDT Subject: Re: FESTIVAL of VOICE + ELECTRONICS this coming TUESDAY, MAY 8th at 8 p.m. ... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e8.1464602a.2829da74_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6801 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_e8.1464602a.2829da74_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/8/01 1:08:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Mbiffle@svg.com writes: > Thanks, Rick Walker (aka, loop.pool) > rick.....such exciting stuff!.....hope you record the events.....madcap onward!.....michael --part1_e8.1464602a.2829da74_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/8/01 1:08:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Mbiffle@svg.com
writes:


Thanks,    Rick Walker (aka, loop.pool)


rick.....such exciting stuff!.....hope you record the events.....madcap
onward!.....michael

--part1_e8.1464602a.2829da74_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 9 07:58:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA31130; Wed, 9 May 2001 07:55:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 07:55:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: cave@pop1.osk.3web.ne.jp X-Mailer: Macintosh Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1-J Message-Id: Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 20:54:56 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sunao Inami Subject: [webcast spam] 11th May, Looper's Delight J Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6802 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, Our webcast live gig is soon. Looper's Delight J live at ZINK,Kobe Japan 11th Fri. May 2001 19:30 - 22:00 (JST) = 10:30 - 13:00 (GMT) = 2:30 - 5:00 (PST) Webcast URL and details: http://www.cavestudio.com/LD_J/2001/ Peal Player G2 or greater required. Regards Sunao Inami http://www.cavestudio.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 9 08:40:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA00686; Wed, 9 May 2001 08:37:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 08:37:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <01fa01c0d885$0468c940$9e29f7c2@zetnet.co.uk> From: "Steve Lawson" To: References: Subject: Re: FESTIVAL of VOICE + ELECTRONICS this coming TUESDAY, MAY8th at 8 p.m. at the RIO THEATRE Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 13:06:18 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6803 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yet another wonderful sounding Rick Walker production... now if only there were such a thing in London. Each time I hear about these events (or play at them :o) I'm more inspired to try something similar here in London... hopefully in the autumn we'll get something happening. Til then I shall fester in my own envy at not being there... :o) Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk > > >>> "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" 05/03/01 04:00AM >>> > >Hi, gang, Please check out this really cool and free event next Tuesday, > >May 8th at 8 p.m. at the Rio Theatre in Santa Cruz (specific information > >follows) > > > > THE 1st SANTA CRUZ > >FESTIVAL OF VOICE + ELECTRONICA > > TUESDAY, MAY 8th > >RIO THEATRE, SANTA CRUZ, CALIFORNIA > >with special guest artist: live video animator, David Tristram > > > >is a reality, thanks to Laurence Bedford's (owner of the Rio Theatre) > >generosity!!!! > > > >it is FREE, FREE, FREE, FREE, FREE, FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 9 08:50:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA01013; Wed, 9 May 2001 08:48:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 08:48:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <007001c0d886$37c134c0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <01fa01c0d885$0468c940$9e29f7c2@zetnet.co.uk> Subject: Re: FESTIVAL of VOICE + ELECTRONICS this coming TUESDAY, MAY8th at 8 p.m. at the RIO THEATRE Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 13:47:31 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <1Ysnh.A.xO.nxT-6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6804 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Ditto. Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! "Steve Lawson" put forth: > Yet another wonderful sounding Rick Walker production... > > now if only there were such a thing in London. Each time I hear about these events (or play at them :o) I'm more inspired to > try something similar here in London... hopefully in the autumn we'll get something happening. Til then I shall fester in my > own envy at not being there... :o) > > Steve > www.steve-lawson.co.uk > > > > >>> "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" 05/03/01 04:00AM >>> > > >Hi, gang, Please check out this really cool and free event next Tuesday, > > >May 8th at 8 p.m. at the Rio Theatre in Santa Cruz (specific information > > >follows) > > > > > > THE 1st SANTA CRUZ > > >FESTIVAL OF VOICE + ELECTRONICA > > > TUESDAY, MAY 8th > > >RIO THEATRE, SANTA CRUZ, CALIFORNIA > > >with special guest artist: live video animator, David Tristram > > > > > >is a reality, thanks to Laurence Bedford's (owner of the Rio Theatre) > > >generosity!!!! > > > > > >it is FREE, FREE, FREE, FREE, FREE, FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 9 10:43:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA05193; Wed, 9 May 2001 10:39:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 10:39:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010509103654.00a09ec0@mail.pdfsystems.com> X-Sender: robert@mail.pdfsystems.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 10:39:16 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "anti:clockwise" Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #233 In-Reply-To: <200105082318.TAA04646@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6805 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i think it might be even better to fax him, actually. i achieved excellent results (tho yr mileage may vary...) 214-343-1038 a:c At 07:18 PM 5/8/01 -0400, you wrote: >Loopers-Delight-d Digest Volume 01 : Issue 233 > > >Kim Flint >kflint@loopers-delight.com >Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 09:26:19 -0500 >From: "Jim Schaefer" >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Mike Nelson & the Boomerang upgrade >Message-ID: <3AF8020B.C0BA9C43@fullcompass.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >It took me a while to get through to Mike as well. The best way is to >email him and tell him you wanna buy the op amp and that you are going >to send a check. He will respond. > > - Jim > >"Jeff Duke (echo17)" wrote: > > > > hi ya'll, i still need the upgrade kit for my > > boomer, I have written Mr. Nelson but I think that > > he is possibly still on leave. does anyone have > > anymore info? btw, my 'rang has 4megs, and the > > proper 1845 ad/da converter. all i need is the > > upgrade and a 2134 op amp that needs to be replaced > > due to a "pop" when i engage the thru mute function. > > > > peace to all, jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 9 11:37:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA07405; Wed, 9 May 2001 11:35:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 11:35:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Jhsidlo@aol.com Message-ID: <6b.140f5a34.282abd4d@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 11:33:33 EDT Subject: Corpus Christi, Texas gig spam To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6806 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello, "Daddy Monkey" is an improvisational group that is tied to the roots of Albert Ayler, Derek Baily, Cecil Taylor,etc. The show is eight o'clock at The Lotus Cup Lounge and Coffee Garden. It's off Water St. More info at: www.lotuscup.com. Or you can contact me. As far as I know it's: free. Personnel are: James Cobb- sax, keys/synth/loops/processing Johnny A. Rodriguez- keys/synth/flutes/extended vocal James Sidlo- guitars/cello/loops/processing Cathy Ragland- electric bass/bowed & otherwise Gabe Herrera- octapad/various percussion Thanks, James From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 9 11:56:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA07850; Wed, 9 May 2001 11:50:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 11:50:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 08:41:01 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Orville on eBay In-reply-to: <25534-3AA97B78-176@storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <25534-3AA97B78-176@storefull-234.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6807 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1429874188 -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 9 12:35:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA10029; Wed, 9 May 2001 12:31:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 12:31:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 11:26:02 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: Repeater To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <009b01c0d8a4$bdce6470$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 References: X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6808 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Wow, I sense some arrogance on this list. i don't know if you're still here, but i thought mikes reply was funny. and you could have learned from it rather than go hyper-sensitive on him. lot's of good stuff in the archives. i had read quite a bit there (and learned a lot) before i ever joined the list. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 9 13:10:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11957; Wed, 9 May 2001 13:07:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 13:07:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AF9795D.2B76DFC5@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 13:07:44 -0400 From: steve Reply-To: studio_t@bellsouth.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repeater References: <009b01c0d8a4$bdce6470$080210ac@jpalmer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6809 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com yeah, I didn't understand the strong reaction either. I use the archives all the time, a little time consuming to hunt thru but well worth it, I have had guys suggest I check the archives before when I've asked a question as well and I never took it on the chin, but then my arrogance is only eclipsed by my talent...or is it my ego. if I had only known back in hi school all I had to do to be cool was buy the right looper... I wouldn't have wasted all that time on my hair peace ya'll, its a beautiful day(aren't they all??) steve jim palmer wrote: > > Wow, I sense some arrogance on this list. > > i don't know if you're still here, but i thought mikes reply was funny. > and you could have learned from it rather than go hyper-sensitive > on him. lot's of good stuff in the archives. i had read quite a bit > there (and learned a lot) before i ever joined the list. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 9 14:32:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA15014; Wed, 9 May 2001 14:28:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 14:28:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [209.163.54.55] From: "Denis Aldrich" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: trigger samples Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 13:25:56 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 May 2001 18:25:56.0832 (UTC) FILETIME=[7D3EC600:01C0D8B5] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6810 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have placed two drum triggers(piezo) on my bongos with great fun. I don't remember the manufacture, but I like them. I am using a reverse reverb effects patch and an Alesis QuadraVerb sampler patch set on audio trigger/one shot. With the sensitivity input on the Alesis I can make the harder hits trigger the sample. Softer hits just go through the reverb. It looks like I could place multipul triggers on one head and through sensitivity trigger each independatly depending on how hard I hit and where. Now the questions: The quadverb only allows one sample. Is there a multi-sampler with multipul inputs? I guess this would be a drum modual with multi-sample mapping. Right? The triggers I bought cost about $30 each. Is there a part number for using RadioShack piezo elements that would cut the cost considerably? Is there anything illegal about having this much fun? Denis (Capt.Molecule) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 9 14:52:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA15837; Wed, 9 May 2001 14:49:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 14:49:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 11:49:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Trey Donovan X-Sender: treydonovan@keops.ekabal.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re:DL4 problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <_B98J.A.a2D.WDZ-6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6811 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com My DL4's record button is flaking out, and I'm not too inspired to send it off to Line6 if it's gonna take 7 weeks to get it back. Anyone know if the foot switches are easy to replace on one's own? I have a soldering iron and half a mind. -trey On Mon, 7 May 2001, rich wrote: > Rick, > > don't know if he can help you, but maybe send a mail off to: > > george.van.wagner@line6.com > > George Van Wagner heads up the line6 web board and seems to be one of > main points of contact there relating to all things line6. George > was extremely helpful to me in some issues with the DL4. the person > he put me in touch with at line6 support got me my replacement unit > sent to me within a week, if i remember corrrectly. > > tell him you're from looper's delight and see if he can steer you in > the right direction at least. > > good luck. > > rich > > ps. i've seen a repeater. i liked it very much. > > > >G wrote to Steve Lawson: > >"Buy a Repeater" > > > > > >Has anyone ever even seen a repeater? > > > >Also, I have been having a hell of a time getting Line 6 to send back my > >'in warranty' modulater pedal. It's been 7 weeks now (not counting the one > >week where my local tech thought he could fix the problem and wasn't able > >to). This has been very vexing, I must say (said in Ed Grimley's voice). > > > >Rick Walker > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 9 15:02:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA16188; Wed, 9 May 2001 14:54:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 14:54:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 11:55:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Trey Donovan X-Sender: treydonovan@keops.ekabal.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re:Does the repeater really exist? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010508130531.01e112a0@mail.redmoon-music.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6812 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Rick Walker (loop.pool) (01:07 PM 05/08/01) wrote: > > >Seriously, is the Repeater finally for sale in the Northern Califronia > >area? If so, who has one that I can go demo. > > No, it has not been released yet. I see it in Musician's Friend as available June 30th. Anyone know if it's seriously backordered? -trey From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 9 15:16:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA17785; Wed, 9 May 2001 15:11:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 15:11:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 12:11:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Trey Donovan X-Sender: treydonovan@keops.ekabal.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Repetition In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6813 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com There's a Russian saying "poftereniya- mat' ucheniya" or in English "Repetition is the mother of learning." By the way, a very interesting and motley assortment of vocalists and loopers (and video artists) at Rick Walker's Voice+Electronica festival last night. Seems like overtone singing and looping devices are well suited to each other, and I am trying to get to Tuva in June with my looping gear...we'll see how that turns out! -trey From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 9 15:18:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA18029; Wed, 9 May 2001 15:15:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 15:15:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AF99789.F0135BD3@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 15:16:28 -0400 From: steve Reply-To: studio_t@bellsouth.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Does the repeater really exist? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6814 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com well the guys at electrix had posted here stating a june release was thier new and fully informed release date so maybe we'll hear form them soon on list if they're not still under the desk in a fetal position after the last barrage of vehement responses t From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 9 15:41:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA18703; Wed, 9 May 2001 15:35:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 15:35:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002c01c0d8be$e21e5b40$0e6797d4@elias> From: "Elias Faingersh" To: Subject: SV: Repetition Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 21:33:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id PAA18592 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6815 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes, tezgelo v uchenii lehko v boju. wich means tough in lerning easy in combat. Do going to actually work with Tuva gang or just use a sample? Elias -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: Trey Donovan Till: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Datum: den 9 maj 2001 21:09 Ämne: Repetition > >There's a Russian saying "poftereniya- mat' ucheniya" or in English >"Repetition is the mother of learning." > >By the way, a very interesting and motley assortment of vocalists and >loopers (and video artists) at Rick Walker's Voice+Electronica festival >last night. > >Seems like overtone singing and looping devices are well suited to each >other, and I am trying to get to Tuva in June with my looping gear...we'll >see how that turns out! > >-trey > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 9 18:57:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA25952; Wed, 9 May 2001 18:48:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 18:48:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 18:45:56 EDT Subject: Re: Repetition noititepeR :eR To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e8.14748208.282b22a4_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6816 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_e8.14748208.282b22a4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/9/01 3:10:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, treydonovan@powerhat.com writes: > would you hum a few bars?.....m --part1_e8.14748208.282b22a4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/9/01 3:10:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
treydonovan@powerhat.com writes:


Tuva in June


would you hum a few bars?.....m --part1_e8.14748208.282b22a4_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 9 21:01:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA31181; Wed, 9 May 2001 20:58:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 20:58:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <012401c0d8ed$039ddce0$3681e3a5@looppool> From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: References: <200105082318.TAA04648@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Thoughts on conflict on Loopers Delight Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 18:03:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6817 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Ted wrote: "I suppose that's not cool though. On this list you're only cool if you have a Jamman, a Boomerang, and/or Acid Pro. Don't forget the EDP!" Hey Guys, don't you get it? Everyone is cool on this wonderful list. Having just completed the exciting and gratifying FESTIVAL of VOICE + ELECTRONICS (with cool list members Miko B, Simran Gleason and myself and a cast of singers who ALL want to go out and by a looper of some kind) which was populated by EDPs, Jammans, Line 6 Modellers and Boomerangs, I realized that I NEVER thought about who was using what brand of looper, I only listening to how they were being creative(and boy, was everybody being creative last night). I've been looping in performance for 8 years (not counting the 3 minute echoplex tape loops we used in the early 80's in Tao Electrical) and I thought I didn't have much to learn about it, until I heard some of the very cool things that John Whooley and Miko B were doing last night. Back to the drawing board (and an expression pedal for my Line 6)!! This list, like the general population of most places, can really get contentious at times. I honestly think that, as musicians, we are ambassadors of our respective cultures to the rest of the world and that we are pretty fluent in the only world language, music. This gives us, I think, a responsibility to be on our best behaviour. If we all want to be stronger artists, then we need to have dialogue and conflict to grow. I just think that we can all assume 1) that we are all cool and deserving of respect and the 2) we are all mature enough not too take things so personally when their are conflicts in ideas. Someone once said, "The truth is one and the paths are many". It's a pleasure being on the path with you all. yours, Rick Walker (Loop.pooL) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 9 21:32:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA00635; Wed, 9 May 2001 21:30:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 21:30:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AF9EF4E.C462CEDF@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 21:30:55 -0400 From: steve Reply-To: studio_t@bellsouth.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Thoughts on conflict on Loopers Delight References: <200105082318.TAA04648@hemlock.violacea.com> <012401c0d8ed$039ddce0$3681e3a5@looppool> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6818 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com rick is obviously having an inspired day, good for you well quothe peace, steve From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 9 21:40:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA00906; Wed, 9 May 2001 21:38:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 21:38:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <836AEDC9D836D211B4720001FA7EC2D202A79445@ntemail1-tr.ius.indiana.edu> From: "LEE, THANIEL I" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: carpark records Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 21:38:13 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6819 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com does anyone here know anyone on carpark records or know how to get on the IDM mailing list -thaniel ion lee PS right now im jamming on some ATR From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 9 23:12:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA04573; Wed, 9 May 2001 23:09:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 23:09:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [208.245.109.17] From: "max valentino" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Thoughts on conflict on Loopers Delight Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 03:07:58 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 May 2001 03:07:58.0312 (UTC) FILETIME=[6A4D5680:01C0D8FE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6820 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com well put, Rick!! and congrats on another looping extravaganza! Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 9 23:21:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA04806; Wed, 9 May 2001 23:20:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 23:20:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 23:32:45 -0400 From: Eric vanLuijk X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Personal Reply-To: Eric vanLuijk Organization: VergoSoft Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17712402513.20010509233245@vergosoft.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Call me dumb =) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6821 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi guys! OK, what is so special about the JamMan's compared to 'old fashion' samplers? I mean, what makes it worth having? Can anyone give me a clear understanding what I am missing? =) Thanks! -- Best regards, Eric J. vanLuijk mailto:evanluijk@vergosoft.com "It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education." - Albert Einstein From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 9 23:54:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA05373; Wed, 9 May 2001 23:52:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 23:52:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 23:52:46 -0400 Subject: infin8ty From: David Myers To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6822 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Little plug for myself and our listmember phalen orion. The infin8ty artists collective is pretty cool and newly redesigned, and Jonathan has been good enough to put up some fairly hefty files by yours truly, including two complete tracks from my new album, one nifty out of print track, and one as-yet unreleased track. Anyone interested in Feedback Music and more extreme looping may want to check it out at http://www.infin8ty.com Thanks all... David Lee Myers http://www.pulsewidth.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Ourobouros" CD of new Feedback Music available now on Pulsewidth! In NYC at Downtown Music, Kim's Mondo, Kim's West, and Other Music, and through Forced Exposure, Anomalous, Wayside, CDeMusic/Electronic Music Foundation, Deep Listening Catalog, Crouton Music, Recommended (UK), Staalplaat (Netherlands), and Metamkine (France). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 07:05:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA18629; Thu, 10 May 2001 06:50:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 06:50:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001f01c0d92d$7c2c2f00$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: 200th Loop Of The Week Non-Contest this weekend! Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:44:42 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6823 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Can you believe it's gone on this long? No, don't answer. This weekend I'll be posting the 200th Loop Of The Week, posted at my Studios site since 1996 (though if you do the arithmetic you must realize that some were two- or three-week postings, depending on situations). In commemoration of this I am running a non-contest (named in spite, be assured). Along with the 200th LOTW you'll be able to find the story behind its development and history so far. The 200th Loop Of The Week Non-Contest will take place between Saturday, May 12 at 1200 hrs GMT (4am Pacific Time) and Sunday, May 13 at 2359 hrs GMT (1559pm Pacific Time). All people who enter the EarthLight Studios page at http://www.earthlight.net/Studios.html and send me the resultant graphic from the hit counter at the very bottom are eligible. I shall be monitoring the page between those times, and the range of numbers for selection will be defined by my saving the hit counter value at each end of the timeline. When you come on in and download Loop Of The Week #200, go to the bottom of the page, where the hit counter is, and save or send it, by either right-clicking on the counter and choosing Send by Email..., or by right-clicking on the counter, choosing Save Picture As... and saving the graphic file to your hard drive, THEN emailing it to me at lotw200@earthlight.net - I'll supply a link right above it for this. This will constitute your entry number, and be some proof to me that it is of course valid. I won't look at anything but the first and last numbers to be sent, and will then generate a random number in that range, the winner will result, and will be sent a copy of my CD, Club Meditation. Sounds easy, doesn't it? No? Then Let me know. In any event instructions will also be at the page at http://www.earthlight.net/Studios.html. And non-winners will be notified, with the option of purchasing their own copy of Club Meditation. I thought I should tell you folks first. :) Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * Enter the 200th Loop of the Week Non-Contest! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 11:20:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27801; Thu, 10 May 2001 11:15:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 11:15:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:56:06 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: Thoughts on conflict on Loopers Delight To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <013501c0d961$579bb050$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 References: <200105082318.TAA04648@hemlock.violacea.com> <012401c0d8ed$039ddce0$3681e3a5@looppool> X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: <25t1UC.A.EyG.UBr-6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6824 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >This list, like the general population of most places, >can really get contentious at times. no it can't... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 11:41:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28493; Thu, 10 May 2001 11:39:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 11:39:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 17:34:47 +0200 Subject: sampleconverter From: "newsic@gmx.de" To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3072360887_1964260_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6825 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Diese Nachricht ist im MIME-Format. Da Ihr Mailreader dieses Format nicht unterstŸtzt, kšnnte diese Nachricht ganz oder teilweise unlesbar sein. --MS_Mac_OE_3072360887_1964260_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hallo I'm serching for a possibility to convert my esi 32 samples in a akai-format, to use it on my macintosh. I know, that there must be a software (like emu-browser?, invinity?), but i can't find any information about it. Can somebody help me please? Thanks and best greetings from germany Doroth=E9e Hahne --MS_Mac_OE_3072360887_1964260_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable sampleconverter
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Doroth=E9e Hahne --MS_Mac_OE_3072360887_1964260_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 12:48:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA31063; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:45:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:45:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:41:47 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: Re: SC Voice and Electronics Fest.... (was thoughts on Conflict...) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id MAA30906 Resent-Message-ID: <4vQAaC.A.JjH.4Us-6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6826 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Having just completed the exciting and gratifying FESTIVAL of VOICE + ELECTRONICS (with cool list members Miko B, Simran Gleason and myself and a cast of singers who ALL want to go out and by a looper of some kind) which was populated by EDPs, Jammans, Line 6 Modellers and Boomerangs, I realized that I NEVER thought about who was using what brand of looper, I only listening to how they were being creative(and boy, was everybody being creative last night). My personal thanks go out to Rick Walker for including me in this GREAT event as a processor/looper. It was very cool to see each vocalist react to the processing and get into their performance. We had dancers, visuals, soulfulness, surprises... It was also cool to meet fellow LD'er Simran and see him and Barbara's wacky set... catch them if you can! > I've been looping in performance for 8 years (not counting the 3 minute echoplex tape loops we used in the early 80's in Tao Electrical) and I thought I didn't have much to learn about it, until I heard some of the very cool things that John Whooley and Miko B were doing last night. Back to the drawing board (and an expression pedal for my Line 6)!! John Whooley (of Estradasphere) totally rocked the house with a single mic and Line 6 DL4 w/exped... It's instructive to see how effective very minimal gear can be in the hands of an inspired individual... Video Artist, David Tristram, came down to provide visuals for us and I have to say it added an incredible psychedelic component to the show. He had 4 monitors on a huge task table... a video camera shooting the stage... a projector... I don't know if he had more than one computer, but he could superimpose images from one monitor onto the other and get them swimming around. It was very cool. > This list, like the general population of most places, can really get contentious at times. I honestly think that, as musicians, we are ambassadors of our respective cultures to the rest of the world and that we are pretty fluent in the only world language, music. This gives us, I think, a responsibility to be on our best behaviour. If we all want to be stronger artists, then we need to have dialogue and conflict to grow. I just think that we can all assume 1) that we are all cool and deserving of respect and the 2) we are all mature enough not too take things so personally when their are conflicts in ideas. I'd like to add that despite any of the conflicts I've seen here... This list has led me to more collaborations and information than any other place I've visited in my life, virtual or in-person... I've personally met many of the creative artists who regularly post here; Many of us have created a Chain Tape project and to date we've completed 12 or 13 cd compilation projects covering a huge range of themes. I've come into contact with product developers; sound-design specialists; touring pros; concert curators... and finally... I've found friendships with many of you. Thank you all! Also... Many thanks once again to Kim Flint, our list provider, for an amazing place to be... > Someone once said, "The truth is one and the paths are many". It's a pleasure being on the path with you all. Well said Rick! All the best... -Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 13:03:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA31831; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:57:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:57:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Tim Petrie To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: Boomerang Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:51:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6827 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello, I'm new to this list, but have been reading the archives as well as the digests for months. This is my first post. This will also be the purchase of my first looper to use with my guitar. It might be of interest to some of you wanting to buy a Boomerang. I have been looking for the best price. And found one for $449 at Mars music. But they have a picture of the old model, not the Boomerang Plus with the + sign on it. So I called them and of course the sales people there didn't know whether it was a plus or not because the picture was of the older model, and the warehouse was in another state, so they couldn't open up a box to look. So, I took the sku# and called one of the Mars stores in Orange, CA. They matched the sku# with the box and actually opened it up and sure enough it is the Plus model. So bottom line, you can go ahead and order it from the Mars web site and it will be the plus model even though their picture is not updated to the latest model. I'm ordering one this week unless there is a better price elsewhere. I thought about buying the BOSS RC-20 but it looks like the boomerang has more functionality for live performances. The Boomerang has more buttons to control it on the fly. And all the testimonials of the loopers on this site seem to love the ones they have. So here goes, I'm finally plopping down the money. Tim Petrie Citrix and Database administrator Nielsen Dillingham Builders (619) 542-4412 tpetrie@ndbi.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 13:10:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00892; Thu, 10 May 2001 13:07:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:07:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [207.189.148.4] From: "K. Michael Odnaloc" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: WAY OT: Help with 4-track? Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:04:42 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 May 2001 17:04:42.0690 (UTC) FILETIME=[4E717A20:01C0D973] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6828 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I apologize if this is too far off topic (though I do use my four track to record my loops). I have a Yamaha MT-120 that I've used for about 8 years and it has recently developed an unfortunate short in the some of the switches (the recording switches that activate each track). It will occassionally short (while recording no less) and send a less than entertaining fuzz into the recording. If I wiggle the switch I can usually fix the problem. My question, does anyone know if this sounds like an easy fix (a dirty connection that just needs to be cleaned (and if so, how (just compressed air or something else needed)) or does this sound more involved? As I said, off topic but given the expertise of the list, I thought someone might take pity on my situation and offer some suggestion (perhaps 'search the archives' :-) Just thought I'd add that I've been on this list for the last year or so from various accounts and this has proven to be one of the most inspiring forums I've been apart of (and most expensive, the gear I've started accumulating since I joined is ridiculous (to me at least). Thanks to everyone for making this such a great resource. Kevin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 13:20:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01341; Thu, 10 May 2001 13:18:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:18:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002601c0d975$83233ea0$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "Clifford@BienAppraisers" To: References: Subject: Re: WAY OT: Help with 4-track? Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:20:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6829 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com You might try the products made by Caig Labs- Pro Gold, Deoxit, and theres another made for rubber parts and faders- I would imaging they are simply dirty- Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Michael Odnaloc" To: Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 10:04 AM Subject: WAY OT: Help with 4-track? > I apologize if this is too far off topic (though I do use my four track to > record my loops). > > I have a Yamaha MT-120 that I've used for about 8 years and it has recently > developed an unfortunate short in the some of the switches (the recording > switches that activate each track). It will occassionally short (while > recording no less) and send a less than entertaining fuzz into the > recording. If I wiggle the switch I can usually fix the problem. > > My question, does anyone know if this sounds like an easy fix (a dirty > connection that just needs to be cleaned (and if so, how (just compressed > air or something else needed)) or does this sound more involved? > > As I said, off topic but given the expertise of the list, I thought someone > might take pity on my situation and offer some suggestion (perhaps 'search > the archives' :-) > > Just thought I'd add that I've been on this list for the last year or so > from various accounts and this has proven to be one of the most inspiring > forums I've been apart of (and most expensive, the gear I've started > accumulating since I joined is ridiculous (to me at least). > > Thanks to everyone for making this such a great resource. > > Kevin > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 13:27:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01619; Thu, 10 May 2001 13:22:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:22:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:21:37 -0500 Subject: Re: Boomerang From: Mike Feeney To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <53vMjD.A.VX.x4s-6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6830 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i recently purchased my boomerang plus from musiciansfriend.com and they do list it as the plus version, although the price was $499. =) mike on 5/10/01 11.51 AM, Tim Petrie at tpetrie@ndbi.com wrote: > Hello, I'm new to this list, but have been reading the archives as well as > the digests for months. > > This is my first post. This will also be the purchase of my first looper to > use with my guitar. It might be of interest to some of you wanting to buy a > Boomerang. I have been looking for the best price. And found one for $449 at > Mars music. But they have a picture of the old model, not the Boomerang Plus > with the + sign on it. So I called them and of course the sales people there > didn't know whether it was a plus or not because the picture was of the > older model, and the warehouse was in another state, so they couldn't open > up a box to look. So, I took the sku# and called one of the Mars stores in > Orange, CA. They matched the sku# with the box and actually opened it up and > sure enough it is the Plus model. So bottom line, you can go ahead and order > it from the Mars web site and it will be the plus model even though their > picture is not updated to the latest model. I'm ordering one this week > unless there is a better price elsewhere. > > I thought about buying the BOSS RC-20 but it looks like the boomerang has > more functionality for live performances. The Boomerang has more buttons to > control it on the fly. And all the testimonials of the loopers on this site > seem to love the ones they have. So here goes, I'm finally plopping down the > money. > > > > > > > Tim Petrie > Citrix and Database administrator > Nielsen Dillingham Builders > (619) 542-4412 > tpetrie@ndbi.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 13:41:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02087; Thu, 10 May 2001 13:39:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:39:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008001c0d977$cad27660$2b30000a@office.tmcs> Reply-To: "Joey Aguilera" From: "Joey Aguilera" To: References: Subject: Re: Re:DL4 problems Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:36:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6831 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have noticed I sometimes have to reset the unit for the record button to work. Luckily I don't really preset anything so it's not much of a problem for me. _ Joey Aguilera http://www.indsicipline.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Trey Donovan" To: <> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 11:49 AM Subject: Re:DL4 problems > My DL4's record button is flaking out, and I'm not too inspired to send it > off to Line6 if it's gonna take 7 weeks to get it back. > > Anyone know if the foot switches are easy to replace on one's own? > > I have a soldering iron and half a mind. > > -trey > > On Mon, 7 May 2001, rich wrote: > > > Rick, > > > > don't know if he can help you, but maybe send a mail off to: > > > > george.van.wagner@line6.com > > > > George Van Wagner heads up the line6 web board and seems to be one of > > main points of contact there relating to all things line6. George > > was extremely helpful to me in some issues with the DL4. the person > > he put me in touch with at line6 support got me my replacement unit > > sent to me within a week, if i remember corrrectly. > > > > tell him you're from looper's delight and see if he can steer you in > > the right direction at least. > > > > good luck. > > > > rich > > > > ps. i've seen a repeater. i liked it very much. > > > > > > >G wrote to Steve Lawson: > > >"Buy a Repeater" > > > > > > > > >Has anyone ever even seen a repeater? > > > > > >Also, I have been having a hell of a time getting Line 6 to send back my > > >'in warranty' modulater pedal. It's been 7 weeks now (not counting the one > > >week where my local tech thought he could fix the problem and wasn't able > > >to). This has been very vexing, I must say (said in Ed Grimley's voice). > > > > > >Rick Walker > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 13:51:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02564; Thu, 10 May 2001 13:48:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:48:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:47:16 EDT Subject: Re: Boomerang To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_aa.153eb554.282c2e24_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6833 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_aa.153eb554.282c2e24_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit tim....welcome to the list.....rest assured that you will love your rang.....after having mine for several years, it still blows my mind.....enjoy!.....m --part1_aa.153eb554.282c2e24_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit tim....welcome to the list.....rest assured that you will love your
rang.....after having mine for several years, it still blows my
mind.....enjoy!.....m --part1_aa.153eb554.282c2e24_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 13:53:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02609; Thu, 10 May 2001 13:50:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:50:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [207.189.148.4] From: "K. Michael Odnaloc" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Buying new gear Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:47:07 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 May 2001 17:47:07.0622 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B574860:01C0D979] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6832 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Speaking of looking for the best price, people may want to try giving Washington Music Center a call (http://www.washingtonmusic.com/). They consistently offer gear for about 5-10% less than any other place I've checked (I bought both my DL4s there for $219 WITH THE ADAPTOR). That's the best price I've seen and they seem to be consistent in having lower prices. Only catch is you have to call or email, they don't have prices on the site. Kevin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 13:55:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02908; Thu, 10 May 2001 13:53:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:53:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <007901c0d979$e5219f30$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: Subject: Re: sampleconverter Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:51:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6834 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com sampleconverterHi Dorothée, > I'm serching for a possibility to convert my > esi 32 samples in a akai-format, to use it on my macintosh. I haven't tried any of this, but you might check out: http://hem.spray.se/joakim.slettengren/ Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 15:02:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA06478; Thu, 10 May 2001 14:59:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:59:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:55:46 +0200 Subject: sampleconverter From: "newsic@gmx.de" To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3072372947_37830_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6835 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Diese Nachricht ist im MIME-Format. Da Ihr Mailreader dieses Format nicht unterstŸtzt, kšnnte diese Nachricht ganz oder teilweise unlesbar sein. --MS_Mac_OE_3072372947_37830_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hallo thank u for tips. CDxtract is only availible fpr pc or do somebody have a versiom for mac? Doroth=E9e --MS_Mac_OE_3072372947_37830_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable sampleconverter
Hallo

thank u for tips.
CDxtract is only availible fpr pc or do somebody have a versiom for mac? Doroth=E9e --MS_Mac_OE_3072372947_37830_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 15:34:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA07554; Thu, 10 May 2001 15:32:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 15:32:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:26:04 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: sampleconverter Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id PAA07352 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6836 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dorothee, maybe this will help? http://www.bitheadz.com/ they make a product called Osmosis, which is a sample converter. see if that does what ya need it too! good luck, rich >Hallo > > >I'm serching for a possibility to convert my >esi 32 samples in a akai-format, to use it on my macintosh. >I know, that there must be a software (like emu-browser?, invinity?), but i >can't find any information about it. >Can somebody help me please? >Thanks and best greetings from germany > >Dorothée Hahne From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 16:20:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA09717; Thu, 10 May 2001 16:16:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 16:16:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PRCamann@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 16:14:45 EDT Subject: Re: Boomerang To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6837 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Finally bought the Boomerang Plus I've been lusting after since it was first announced in 1999. Bought it for $425 at Matt's Music in Middletown, CT (one of the three Connecticut retailers listed on the Boomerang web site, and the only one with a web page). Picked it up there for two reasons: (1) Price (he asked me if his price was competitive and I told him emphatically YES!), and (2) Location (I live in SE CT and like to give my business to local, or relatively local, retailers whenever possible). (If you're thinking of contacting him to purchase one, be aware that he only stocks two or three at a time, and reorders when those are sold. I bought mine on April 28, and he said he'd reorder the following week, but I don't know if he's replenished his stock yet. But if you do contact him about purchasing, please mention my name as a referral -- remind him I'm the guy who tried out an older model 'rang using a black pocket trumpet with a mouthpiece-mounted Barcus Berry pickup.) As for the 'rang itself, I'm lovin' it! I'm using it with the aforementioned trumpet (with or without additional effects) and an older Crumar Steiner EVI (with or without additional processing through an XP300 Space Station). I noticed that feeding the trumpet pickup directly into the unit and using the level switch and trim control to boost the level produced unsatisfactory results; the trim control affected the output level of the unit quite severely, and also the brightness of the sound and the noise level. From the archives I gather that this is not uncommon or unusual. As soon as I used a preamp to bring the signal up to line level (DOD FX10 BiFet Preamp or Danelectro Fish-n-Chips Graphic EQ both work well), the problem went away. If you're on the fence about getting a Boomerang (especially if you're holding out for a Repeater), get the 'rang. I'm not sure which I'll see in my local music store first -- a Repeater or the Alesis airSynth -- but I'm not holding my breath for either one... Paul Camann From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 16:35:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA10191; Thu, 10 May 2001 16:33:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 16:33:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:24:26 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Boomerang In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6838 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 4:14 PM -0400 5/10/01, PRCamann@aol.com wrote: >I'm not sure which I'll see in my local music store first -- a >Repeater or the Alesis airSynth -- but I'm not holding my breath for >either one... Think "June" for the Repeater. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 17:08:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA11882; Thu, 10 May 2001 17:02:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 17:02:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:04:54 -0700 From: ZacRae Subject: Digitech PDS-8000 mods... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-to: zacrae@pacbell.net Message-id: <3AFB0275.2769450C@pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <200105101648.MAA31167@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6839 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Just picked up one of these fun little buggers... Has anyone attempted (or succeeded) with any mods for this thing? Curious if anyone has attempted to expand its capabilities (a CV in for the delay time would be an obvious one) It also struck me it would be an interesting candidate for "circuit bending" type mods, ala those performed on the Casio SK-1.... Any thoughts??? Thanks in advance. Zac. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 17:10:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA12204; Thu, 10 May 2001 17:08:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 17:08:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 11:25:03 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: sampleconverter In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1222603147==_ma============" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6840 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1222603147==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 5:34 PM +0200 5/10/01, newsic@gmx.de wrote: >Hallo > > >I'm serching for a possibility to convert my >esi 32 samples in a akai-format, to use it on my macintosh. >I know, that there must be a software (like emu-browser?, invinity?), but i >can't find any information about it. Check out Transfer Station supported Samplers include: * Akai S1000/S1100-series * Akai S2000/S2800/S3000/XL/S3200-series * Emu Emulator 4-series, ESynth, e64-series, ESi-series * Ensoniq ASR-X * Kurzweil K2000 and K2500 * Peavey SXII/SXII+ and DPM-SP * Roland S-760 and DJ-70mkII -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz --============_-1222603147==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: sampleconverter
At 5:34 PM +0200 5/10/01, newsic@gmx.de wrote:
Hallo


I'm serching for a possibility to convert my
esi 32 samples in a akai-format, to use it on my macintosh.
I know, that there must be a software (like emu-browser?, invinity?), but i
can't find any information about it.

Check out Transfer Station <http://www.imuse.com/TS.html>

supported Samplers include:

*    Akai S1000/S1100-series
*        Akai S2000/S2800/S3000/XL/S3200-series
* Emu Emulator 4-series, ESynth, e64-series, ESi-series
*  Ensoniq ASR-X
*  Kurzweil K2000 and K2500
*       Peavey SXII/SXII+ and DPM-SP
*       Roland S-760 and DJ-70mkII
--

______________________________________________________________
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--============_-1222603147==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 17:29:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA12846; Thu, 10 May 2001 17:26:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 17:26:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:36:58 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Repeater In-reply-to: <012401c0d8ed$039ddce0$3681e3a5@looppool> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <200105082318.TAA04648@hemlock.violacea.com> <012401c0d8ed$039ddce0$3681e3a5@looppool> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6841 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I just had a phone call from "Deep Throat" and thought you might like to know that Repeater will very likely be shipping in June. The unit is in the final stages of tweaking and beta testing. A large number of units are ready to ship as soon as the final firmware is loaded into them, so there should not be any significant delay once the final operating system is "blessed." BTW - I didn't notice that Dave Tristram was providing visuals for the latest loop fest. I've seen his work with the Raster Masters, and got to know him when I was working on Graham Nash's "LifeSighs" project. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 17:43:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA13683; Thu, 10 May 2001 17:41:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 17:41:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [195.92.67.67] From: "H. da Massa" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: In need of a used boomerang unit, England. Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 21:40:07 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 May 2001 21:40:07.0855 (UTC) FILETIME=[C8358BF0:01C0D999] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6844 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Anybody know how/where I can lay my hands on a Boomerang floor unit at less than six hundred dollars which is what they are selling for over here in England. Come on someone help me out. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 17:43:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA13576; Thu, 10 May 2001 17:40:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 17:40:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 17:38:35 EDT Subject: Echoplex Digital Pro - Copy Timing Only Blues To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6843 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, all: $%&*#$! If only one could copy the timing only with NEXTLOOP after recording the first loop. It seems like I need to play and record my guitar (with a drum machine synced to the EDP) to get the first loop down with the proper timing. The workaround of hitting RECORD then terminating the loop so that the drum machine is started in sync, then recording successive loops with no actual recording is, at best, tolerable. Will the EDP update that I've heard mentioned ever see the light of day? Regards, Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 17:43:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA13417; Thu, 10 May 2001 17:40:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 17:40:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:38:10 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: Re: SC Voice and Electronics Fest... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id RAA13240 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6842 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > BTW - I didn't notice that Dave Tristram was providing visuals for the latest loop fest. I've seen his work with the Raster Masters, and got to know him when I was working on Graham Nash's "LifeSighs" project. -- Richard Zvonar Hi Richard, He was a bit farther down in the announcement. Sorry you missed it. It's obvious that he's really in the cream-of-the-crop concerning visual production and performance. I'd love to see some of his other work. He mentioned that he's done a fair amount with the very experimental group, Omnimedia, up in Oakland. It's great to know he's in our neck of the woods... Best, -Miko Biffle From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 17:52:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA14181; Thu, 10 May 2001 17:49:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 17:49:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:48:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Rik Elswit Message-Id: <200105102148.OAA07849@well.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repeater Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6845 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ON Saturday, the 19th, Electrix will be demonstrating the Repeater at Bananas at Large, in San Rafael, CA (just north of San Francisco). Demo time is noon to 1PM, and it will be an excellent opportunity to see just what it does. Bananas at Large 1504 Fourth St. (Fourth and E) San Rafael CA 415-457-7600 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 18:10:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA15897; Thu, 10 May 2001 18:08:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 18:08:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Message-Id: <200105102208.PAA12266@falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 15:10:22 -0700 Subject: Re: Repeater To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6846 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "YAMOBETHERE"! stanner ---------- >From: Rik Elswit >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Repeater >Date: Thu, May 10, 2001, 2:48 PM > >ON Saturday, the 19th, Electrix will be demonstrating the Repeater at >Bananas at Large, in San Rafael, CA (just north of San Francisco). Demo >time is noon to 1PM, and it will be an excellent opportunity to see just >what it does. > >Bananas at Large >1504 Fourth St. (Fourth and E) >San Rafael CA >415-457-7600 > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 18:35:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA16752; Thu, 10 May 2001 18:33:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 18:33:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AFB174E.42D44D44@ernieball.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 15:33:50 -0700 Organization: Ernie Ball, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Repeater References: <200105102210.SAA15975@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------6A5BD62C39C626641970ABF9" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Hans Lindauer Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6847 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --------------6A5BD62C39C626641970ABF9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We'll be expecting a full report.... > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: Repeater > Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:48:41 -0700 (PDT) > From: Rik Elswit > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > ON Saturday, the 19th, Electrix will be demonstrating the Repeater at > Bananas at Large, in San Rafael, CA (just north of San Francisco). > Demo > time is noon to 1PM, and it will be an excellent opportunity to see > just > what it does. > > Bananas at Large > 1504 Fourth St. (Fourth and E) > San Rafael CA > 415-457-7600 > -- Hans Lindauer Engineer, Music Man R&D Ernie Ball, Inc. --------------6A5BD62C39C626641970ABF9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We'll be expecting a full report....

Subject: Re: Repeater
Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 14:48:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rik Elswit <rik@well.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com 

ON Saturday, the 19th, Electrix will be demonstrating the Repeater at
Bananas at Large, in San Rafael, CA (just north of San Francisco).   Demo
time is noon to 1PM, and it will be an excellent opportunity to see just
what it does.

Bananas at Large 
1504 Fourth St. (Fourth and E)
San Rafael CA
415-457-7600

--
Hans Lindauer
Engineer, Music Man R&D
Ernie Ball, Inc.
  --------------6A5BD62C39C626641970ABF9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 21:46:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA24640; Thu, 10 May 2001 21:43:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 21:43:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002601c0d9bb$9ddb98a0$8edbf7a5@com> From: "Alan Imberg" To: References: Subject: Re: Boomerang Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 18:42:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6848 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com As I just received my Boomerang from Mars Music, I can verify that you do get the + model. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Petrie" To: Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 9:51 AM Subject: Boomerang > Hello, I'm new to this list, but have been reading the archives as well as > the digests for months. > > This is my first post. This will also be the purchase of my first looper to > use with my guitar. It might be of interest to some of you wanting to buy a > Boomerang. I have been looking for the best price. And found one for $449 at > Mars music. But they have a picture of the old model, not the Boomerang Plus > with the + sign on it. So I called them and of course the sales people there > didn't know whether it was a plus or not because the picture was of the > older model, and the warehouse was in another state, so they couldn't open > up a box to look. So, I took the sku# and called one of the Mars stores in > Orange, CA. They matched the sku# with the box and actually opened it up and > sure enough it is the Plus model. So bottom line, you can go ahead and order > it from the Mars web site and it will be the plus model even though their > picture is not updated to the latest model. I'm ordering one this week > unless there is a better price elsewhere. > > I thought about buying the BOSS RC-20 but it looks like the boomerang has > more functionality for live performances. The Boomerang has more buttons to > control it on the fly. And all the testimonials of the loopers on this site > seem to love the ones they have. So here goes, I'm finally plopping down the > money. > > > > > > > Tim Petrie > Citrix and Database administrator > Nielsen Dillingham Builders > (619) 542-4412 > tpetrie@ndbi.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 10 22:10:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA26243; Thu, 10 May 2001 22:09:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 22:09:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [203.12.166.31] From: "Gary Waters" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: sampleconverter Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 10:08:00 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 May 2001 02:08:01.0236 (UTC) FILETIME=[34B0D940:01C0D9BF] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6849 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dorethee, >I'm serching for a possibility to convert my >esi 32 samples in a akai-format, to use it on my macintosh. >I know, that there must be a software (like emu-browser?, invinity?), but i >can't find any information about it. >Can somebody help me please? >Thanks and best greetings from germany > >Dorothée Hahne I'm not sure of the exact extensions you would be looking at, but have you tried Awave Audio Bathc Convertor. This does most audio formats currently around! K-Z-Gaz _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 00:59:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA31153; Fri, 11 May 2001 00:57:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 00:57:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <21.b810ee5.282ccafe@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 00:56:30 EDT Subject: Re: Boomerang----->alesis air-synth To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_21.b810ee5.282ccafe_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6850 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_21.b810ee5.282ccafe_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/10/01 4:15:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, PRCamann@aol.com writes: > I'm not sure which I'll see in my local music store first -- a Repeater or > talked to a fellow at "sweetwater music" today about the air-synth (alesis) and he basically said "it may never come out or if it does it will be towards the end of the year" sigh!.....also they do not carry electrix products so they had no idea what a "repeater" might be, go figure.....m --part1_21.b810ee5.282ccafe_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/10/01 4:15:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, PRCamann@aol.com
writes:


I'm not sure which I'll see in my local music store first -- a Repeater or
the Alesis airSynth


talked to a fellow at "sweetwater music" today about the air-synth (alesis)
and he basically said "it may never come out or if it does it will be towards
the end of the year" sigh!.....also they do not carry electrix products so
they had no idea what a "repeater" might be, go figure.....m --part1_21.b810ee5.282ccafe_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 03:09:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA03979; Fri, 11 May 2001 03:06:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 03:06:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Delivered-To: fixup-Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com@fixme User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 00:05:49 -0700 Subject: Line6 Filter box From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6851 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Saw the new Line6 box at the local Guitar Center today. My bandmate set up a loop in the adjacent delay modeler and used the filter box for post loop processing. We didn't have time to delve into deeply, but it immediately struck me as quite useful. I wasn't very impressed by the clips Line6 had posted on their site, but the box in person was quite compelling. TravisH -- NEW official Electrochakra website: www.electrochakra.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 04:14:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA05783; Fri, 11 May 2001 04:12:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 04:12:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Unapunx@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 04:12:09 EDT Subject: re: desultory tazing To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d3.14888f06.282cf8d9_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6852 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_d3.14888f06.282cf8d9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry for the extra clutter, but I just wanted to introduce meself... name: ash | city: portland | musician | amateur engineer | been subbed: about a month Its nice to finally find a list where I'll learn something. e n d --part1_d3.14888f06.282cf8d9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry for the extra clutter, but I just wanted to introduce meself...
name: ash | city: portland | musician | amateur engineer | been subbed: about
a month

Its nice to finally find a list where I'll learn something.

e n d
--part1_d3.14888f06.282cf8d9_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 05:02:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA07506; Fri, 11 May 2001 05:01:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 05:01:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008601c0d9f9$ab209fe0$7282e3a5@looppool> From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: References: <200105102210.SAA15975@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: re: DL 4 modeller problems Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 02:04:24 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6853 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey group, I contacted George Van Wagner at line 6 about my gripes about their warranty service time lag, and though I have not talked to him yet, he sent me a very gracious letter back insisting that he wants to talk to me ASAP and affirming that he is very , very concerned about the reputation of Line 6's customer service. I was impressed with his sincerity! I think that I will start to forward him our discussions about future Line 6 products (like the recent rash of disses on the new Line 6 filter modeller, of which I was one). This company does seem to give a shit about what we, in the trenches, think about their gear so I think we could really aid them if we corresponded with them as well as grousing or praising their respective products. While we are at it, we should probably do this with all of the companies who design looping gear (exept, possibly, the 10,000 grouses about the tardiness of the Repeater appearance ;-) I, for one, have all but quit using my 3 jammans (no, I'm not going to be selling them anytime soon ;-), because the Line 6 looping pedal is so awesome. I'm with Miko in his assessment of John Whooley's brilliant performance with one mic, a line 6 pedal and an expression pedal and nothing else............it surely sent me back to the drawing board!!!! yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 09:26:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA14751; Fri, 11 May 2001 09:24:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:24:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:22:32 EDT Subject: Re: DL 4 modeller problems To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e1.146a05ef.282d4198_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6854 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_e1.146a05ef.282d4198_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/11/01 5:01:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, GLOBAL@cruzio.com writes: > John Whooley's brilliant performance with one mic, a line 6 pedal and > an expression pedal and nothing else............it surely sent me back to > the drawing board!!!! > boy rick, it sure would be nice to hear this.....(did you record the show?) or is this going to be another cali love fest that the poor folk who live elsewhere will not hear?.....i promise to send you a tape of my next gig!.....:).....m --part1_e1.146a05ef.282d4198_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/11/01 5:01:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
GLOBAL@cruzio.com writes:


John Whooley's brilliant performance with one mic, a line 6 pedal and
an expression pedal and nothing else............it surely sent me back to
the drawing board!!!!


boy rick, it sure would be nice to hear this.....(did you record the show?)
or is this going to be another cali love fest that the poor folk who live
elsewhere will not hear?.....i promise to send you a tape of my next
gig!.....:).....m --part1_e1.146a05ef.282d4198_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 09:36:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA15246; Fri, 11 May 2001 09:34:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:34:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003601c0da1e$f88677d0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro - Copy Timing Only Blues Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 08:33:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6856 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Paul! > . . . > The workaround of hitting RECORD then terminating the loop so that the drum machine is > started in sync, then recording successive loops with no actual recording is, at best, tolerable. > . . . I don't know exactly what you need to do, but have you considered using some type of MIDI controller such as a Peavey PC-1600x? You could program a sequence of EDP operations that are triggered by a single MIDI controller button push. Of course, if you have a computer w/ MIDI interface you could use something like Building Blocks (see http://www.midiworld.org/AuReality/products/buildingblocks/buildingblocks.ht ml ) to construct the same functionality. IMHO, one of the really cool things about the EDP is that virtually all functions can be controlled via MIDI. So you can look at the "basic" front panel operations as primitive functions that you can chain together to construct your own operations. 'Course with enough of that, you'll have to get some roadies... Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 09:36:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA15244; Fri, 11 May 2001 09:34:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:34:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <97.151e9db1.282d441d@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:33:17 EDT Subject: o.t. steinberger replacement parts To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_97.151e9db1.282d441d_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6855 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_97.151e9db1.282d441d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en this may be of interest to some, found it on harmony-central today: May 11, 2001 -- MusicYo.com, a California-based Internet retailer, announced= =20 the availability of Steinberger replacement parts and accessories. Included=20 in the initial offering are Headpiece Bands, R-Tremolo Systems, String=20 Adaptors, Hardshell Cases and Gigbags, Tremolo Arms, Gearless Tuners and Leg= =20 Rests. "For a while, Steinberger enthusiasts have had a hard time finding parts for= =20 their beloved =E2=80=98Bergers", says MusicYo representative Rick Bassham. "= But with=20 the revival of the Steinberger line at MusicYo, they=E2=80=99re having a fie= ld day!!=20 For them, it=E2=80=99s almost like Christmas!" As the official and only authorized distributor of Steinberger products,=20 MusicYo plans to continue to expand upon this initial offering by adding=20 other high-demand Steinberger parts in the future. Steinberger parts, as well as Steinberger instruments, are now available and= =20 offered exclusively at www.MusicYo.com directly to consumers. For more information, visit their web site at www.musicyo.com. =20 --part1_97.151e9db1.282d441d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en this may be of interest t= o some, found it on harmony-central today:

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the availability of Steinberger replacement parts and accessories. Inclu= ded=20
in the initial offering are Headpiece Bands, R-Tremolo Systems, String=20
Adaptors, Hardshell Cases and Gigbags, Tremolo Arms, Gearless Tuners and= Leg=20
Rests.
"For a while, Steinberger enthusiasts have had a hard time finding parts= for=20
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the revival of the Steinberger line at MusicYo, they=E2=80=99re having a= field day!!=20
For them, it=E2=80=99s almost like Christmas!"
As the official and only authorized distributor of Steinberger products,= =20
MusicYo plans to continue to expand upon this initial offering by adding= =20
other high-demand Steinberger parts in the future.
Steinberger parts, as well as Steinberger instruments, are now available= and=20
offered exclusively at www.MusicYo.com directly to consumers.
For more information, visit their web site at www.musicyo.com.


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--part1_97.151e9db1.282d441d_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 10:36:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA17516; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:35:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 10:35:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <008601c0d9f9$ab209fe0$7282e3a5@looppool> References: <200105102210.SAA15975@hemlock.violacea.com> <008601c0d9f9$ab209fe0$7282e3a5@looppool> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 07:29:19 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: re: DL 4 modeller problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <4iaJwC.A.sPE.1h_-6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6857 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Rick Walker wrote: >Hey group, I contacted George Van Wagner at line 6 about my gripes about >their warranty service time lag, and though I have not talked to him yet, he >sent me a very gracious letter back insisting that he wants to talk to me >ASAP and affirming that he is very , very concerned about the reputation of >Line 6's customer service. I was impressed with his sincerity! Rick... hey, great! glad you got in touch with george...he seems to be a very sincere gentlemen and that notion is not lost when you meet him in person. seems he has been in the 'biz' for some time (i think he worked for midiman before joining L6), and really likes what he is doing. >I think that I will start to forward him our discussions about future Line 6 >products (like the recent rash of disses on the >new Line 6 filter modeller, of which I was one). This company does seem to give a shit about what we, in the trenches if i remember correctly, George was subscribing to LD prior to and up to the original release of the DL4. although i think the amount of mail might have gotten to be a bit much...he watches over the L6 web board, which is a buttload of stuff to weed through enough...and if you think we're a bunch of whining little brats, ya ain't seen nothin' till you spend a bit o' time over at the line6 board. i would recommend asking him how he would prefer our requests to be sent. The line6 board works well to post issues and get alot of response from other users, and there are direct email portals to line6 as well...check the website...ideas@line6.com? (i think?) would hate to deluge george with unsolicited mails...although your idea is cool. hope you get your pedal back soon! best, rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 10:49:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA18019; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:47:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 10:47:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 07:41:45 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: re: DL 4 modeller problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6858 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com also, while we are gushing about L6's customer service approach... if ya's want to, check out: http://listen.to/andyz this is the home site for a very enthusiastic L6 user, who happens to make some pretty damn good patches for POD, and also hosts the monthly LA Line6 Users Meeting. If any of you are in the LA area and want to check out a bunch of geeks going off about Line6 gear...Andy Z can provide the times and place. I've been to only one meeting quite some time ago, since driving INTO LA during rush hour traffic is something you only do when absolutely neccessary. Line6 fully supports these meetings and usually use it to introduce new products before they hit the shelves, get first hand customer feedback, help folks dial in their setups, and more. Sometimes they've got a hot shot demo'ing stuff...I think Reeves Gabrels was at the last one... anywho...FYI. rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 10:51:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA18324; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:49:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 10:49:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AFC1784.DEC5EB7B@vtx.ch> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 16:47:00 +0000 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro - Copy Timing Only Blues References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6859 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com PaulPokr@aol.com wrote: > > Hi, all: > > $%&*#$! > > If only one could copy the timing only with NEXTLOOP after recording the first loop. > > It seems like I need to play and record my guitar (with a drum machine synced to the EDP) to get the first loop down with the proper timing. > > The workaround of hitting RECORD then terminating the loop so that the drum machine is started in sync, then recording successive loops with no actual recording is, at best, tolerable. > > Will the EDP update that I've heard mentioned ever see the light of day? > > Regards, Paul Paul Some remarks I dont get it 100% 1-why dont you slave the plex to the drum machine (sync in) or we need more exactly what you want to achieve. or do you need to sync on the fly to a band to start the dm machine ? why do you need to record successive loops without recording anything an empty loop without drum machine doesnt make sense?? Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 11:23:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA20733; Fri, 11 May 2001 11:20:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:20:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000e01c0da2d$5d535620$6401a8c0@nwlink.com> From: "Bob Campbell" To: References: <3AFC1784.DEC5EB7B@vtx.ch> Subject: Oregon Phoenix Festival - July 6-9 Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 08:16:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6860 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The Phoenix Festival is a regional gathering modeled after Burning Man and will be held on July 6th to July 9th in central Oregon. See: http://www.phoenixfest.com/ There will be scads of DJ's there with soundsystems. I hope to timeshare a sound system and do some live instrumental looping, and have started discussions with one group already, so it looks pretty feasible. If any of you Pacific Northwest loopers are also tempted by this sort of thing, please drop me a line and let's talk about the looping possibilities at this event. Bob rcc@nwlink.com Seattle From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 11:25:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA20997; Fri, 11 May 2001 11:24:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:24:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:23:08 EDT Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro - Copy Timing Only Blues To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <44.dbefa28.282d5ddc@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6861 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com << Some remarks I dont get it 100% 1-why dont you slave the plex to the drum machine sync in) or we need more exactly what you want to achieve. or do you need to sync on the fly to a band to start the dm machine ? why do you need to record successive loops without recording anything an empty loop without drum machine doesnt make sense?? >> It's hard to explain in a sentence. Here's what I'm trying to do: I have my drum machine sync'ed via MIDI to the EDP. Say, three loops are defined on the EDP. I have the EDP set to loopcopy SOUND rather than TIMING (because the TIMING only loopcopy doesn't work to my knowledge). If I then record a pattern in loop 1 at a certain tempo then stop the pattern, it will play and drive the drum machine at a suitable tempo. If I then do a LOOPCOPY, the EDP will copy the sound from loop #1 and the timing. However, I don't want the sound from loop #1 to be copied to loop #2. Only the timing to drive the drum machine. A workaround would be to, perhaps, enter bass guitar patterns first, which would be somewhat innocuous to the rest of the song. One can foot-tap in at an appropriate interval the start/stop of the 1st loop without any other sound which would then start the drum machine. Then one could layer whatever, say, guitar pattern, chords, whatever over the drums. But, there are very interesting results achieved when some pattern is played at an arbitrary tempo and the drum machine/bass machine (in this case a Zoom 234) starts at the arbitrary tempo. The somewhat mundane default patterns in the drum machine really come alive. Anyhow, that's my sad tale. Regards, Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 11:36:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA21308; Fri, 11 May 2001 11:34:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:34:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Brad Chase" To: Subject: RE: Thoughts on conflict on Loopers Delight Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 08:40:31 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <012401c0d8ed$039ddce0$3681e3a5@looppool> Disposition-Notification-To: "Brad Chase" X-SLUIDL: 28449CAD-456A11D5-BA900001-02769B72 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6862 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks Ted. The 'Tortutured Artist Effect', as Todd R. put it, really gets old sometimes. "CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG" (quote from a famous felon). bRAD 'wALLcLANmAN fARKLE' cHASE -----Original Message----- From: Rick Walker (loop.pool) [mailto:GLOBAL@cruzio.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2001 6:03 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Thoughts on conflict on Loopers Delight Ted wrote: "I suppose that's not cool though. On this list you're only cool if you have a Jamman, a Boomerang, and/or Acid Pro. Don't forget the EDP!" Hey Guys, don't you get it? Everyone is cool on this wonderful list. Having just completed the exciting and gratifying FESTIVAL of VOICE + ELECTRONICS (with cool list members Miko B, Simran Gleason and myself and a cast of singers who ALL want to go out and by a looper of some kind) which was populated by EDPs, Jammans, Line 6 Modellers and Boomerangs, I realized that I NEVER thought about who was using what brand of looper, I only listening to how they were being creative(and boy, was everybody being creative last night). I've been looping in performance for 8 years (not counting the 3 minute echoplex tape loops we used in the early 80's in Tao Electrical) and I thought I didn't have much to learn about it, until I heard some of the very cool things that John Whooley and Miko B were doing last night. Back to the drawing board (and an expression pedal for my Line 6)!! This list, like the general population of most places, can really get contentious at times. I honestly think that, as musicians, we are ambassadors of our respective cultures to the rest of the world and that we are pretty fluent in the only world language, music. This gives us, I think, a responsibility to be on our best behaviour. If we all want to be stronger artists, then we need to have dialogue and conflict to grow. I just think that we can all assume 1) that we are all cool and deserving of respect and the 2) we are all mature enough not too take things so personally when their are conflicts in ideas. Someone once said, "The truth is one and the paths are many". It's a pleasure being on the path with you all. yours, Rick Walker (Loop.pooL) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 11:56:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA21824; Fri, 11 May 2001 11:51:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:51:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Brad Chase" To: , Subject: RE: sampleconverter Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 08:56:25 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C0D9F8.4292AF00" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Disposition-Notification-To: "Brad Chase" X-SLUIDL: 28449CB0-456A11D5-BA900001-02769B72 Resent-Message-ID: <1m7IJ.A.MSF.ioA_6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6863 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C0D9F8.4292AF00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Re: sampleconverter GOOD DAY! GO TO: http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/ I BELIEVE I SAW A CONVERTER THERE. bRAD wALLCLANMAN fARKLE Chase ZXZ -----Original Message----- From: Richard Zvonar [mailto:zvonar@zvonar.com] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 11:25 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: sampleconverter At 5:34 PM +0200 5/10/01, newsic@gmx.de wrote: Hallo I'm serching for a possibility to convert my esi 32 samples in a akai-format, to use it on my macintosh. I know, that there must be a software (like emu-browser?, invinity?), but i can't find any information about it. Check out Transfer Station supported Samplers include: * Akai S1000/S1100-series * Akai S2000/S2800/S3000/XL/S3200-series * Emu Emulator 4-series, ESynth, e64-series, ESi-series * Ensoniq ASR-X * Kurzweil K2000 and K2500 * Peavey SXII/SXII+ and DPM-SP * Roland S-760 and DJ-70mkII -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C0D9F8.4292AF00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: sampleconverter
 
 ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C0D9F8.4292AF00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 12:04:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA23461; Fri, 11 May 2001 12:02:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:02:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Brad Chase" To: Subject: RE: sampleconverter Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:08:31 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0D9F9.F34D7E00" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Disposition-Notification-To: "Brad Chase" X-SLUIDL: 28449CB4-456A11D5-BA900001-02769B72 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6864 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0D9F9.F34D7E00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit sampleconverterGOOD DAY! OBVOIUSLY STEVEN DID A 'JOBS' ON YOU....TRY http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/ bRAD wALLCLANMAN fARKLE Chase ZXZ PLAY IT WELL PLAY IT LOUD -----Original Message----- From: newsic@gmx.de [mailto:newsic@gmx.de] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 11:56 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: sampleconverter Hallo thank u for tips. CDxtract is only availible fpr pc or do somebody have a versiom for mac? Dorothie ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0D9F9.F34D7E00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sampleconverter

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-----Original Message-----
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------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C0D9F9.F34D7E00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 12:19:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA24083; Fri, 11 May 2001 12:17:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:17:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Brad Chase" To: Subject: RE: sampleconverter Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:23:26 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <00a101c0da34$db886ec0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> Disposition-Notification-To: "Brad Chase" X-SLUIDL: 28449CE0-456A11D5-BA900001-02769B72 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6866 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com SURE, UNFORTUNATELY THIS EMAIL ADDRESS IS THROUGH WORK, AND THE RECIEPT REQUEST IS AUTOMATIC. I WILL SEND EVERYTHING ELSE PLAIN TEXT. PEACE BE WITH YOU bRAD -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Leas [mailto:dennis@mdbs.com] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 9:10 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: sampleconverter Hi Brad, I'm glad to have you on the list and actively participanting and all that...but could you send plainer looking email and *not* request a receipt confirmation? I would appreciate that greatly! Thanks! Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Brad Chase To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 11:08 AM Subject: RE: sampleconverter GOOD DAY! OBVOIUSLY STEVEN DID A 'JOBS' ON YOU....TRY http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/ bRAD wALLCLANMAN fARKLE Chase ZXZ PLAY IT WELL PLAY IT LOUD -----Original Message----- From: newsic@gmx.de [mailto:newsic@gmx.de] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 11:56 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: sampleconverter Hallo thank u for tips. CDxtract is only availible fpr pc or do somebody have a versiom for mac? Dorothie From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 12:19:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA23762; Fri, 11 May 2001 12:12:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:12:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00a101c0da34$db886ec0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: Subject: Re: sampleconverter Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:10:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009E_01C0DA0A.F28F4E60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6865 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009E_01C0DA0A.F28F4E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sampleconverterHi Brad, I'm glad to have you on the list and actively participanting and all = that...but could you send plainer looking email and *not* request a = receipt confirmation? I would appreciate that greatly! Thanks! Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Brad Chase=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 11:08 AM Subject: RE: sampleconverter GOOD DAY! OBVOIUSLY STEVEN DID A 'JOBS' ON YOU....TRY = http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/ =20 =20 bRAD 'wALLCLANMAN fARKLE" Chase ZXZ =20 PLAY IT WELL PLAY IT LOUD=20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: newsic@gmx.de [mailto:newsic@gmx.de] Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 11:56 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: sampleconverter Hallo thank u for tips. CDxtract is only availible fpr pc or do somebody have a versiom for = mac? Doroth=E9e=20 ------=_NextPart_000_009E_01C0DA0A.F28F4E60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable sampleconverter</T= ITLE> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Brad,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm glad to have you on the list and = actively=20 participanting and all that...but could you send plainer looking email = and *not*=20 request a receipt confirmation?  I would appreciate that=20 greatly!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>Dennis Leas<BR>-------------------<BR><A=20 href=3D"mailto:dennis@mdbs.com">dennis@mdbs.com</A></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dbchase@plasties.com = href=3D"mailto:bchase@plasties.com">Brad Chase</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20 title=3DLoopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 = href=3D"mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com">Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com</A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 11, 2001 = 11:08 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: = sampleconverter</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D060510616-11052001><FONT color=3D#800080><STRONG> <DIV class=3DSection1> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 16pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Rockwell Extra = Bold'; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">GOOD=20 DAY!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20 style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 16pt; 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Fri, 11 May 2001 13:02:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 13:02:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <c.voit@vtx.ch> Message-ID: <3AFC343A.7AE7DBB1@vtx.ch> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 18:49:30 +0000 From: Claude Voit <c.voit@vtx.ch> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro - Copy Timing Only Blues References: <44.dbefa28.282d5ddc@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <JuP8I.A.RZG.DsB_6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6867 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com PaulPokr@aol.com wrote: > > << Some remarks I dont get it 100% > 1-why dont you slave the plex to the drum machine sync in) > or we need more exactly what you want to achieve. > or do you need to sync on the fly to a band to start the dm machine ? > why do you need to record successive loops without recording anything an > empty loop without drum machine doesnt make sense?? >> > > It's hard to explain in a sentence. Here's what I'm trying to do: > > I have my drum machine sync'ed via MIDI to the EDP. > > Say, three loops are defined on the EDP. > > I have the EDP set to loopcopy SOUND rather than TIMING (because >the TIMING only loopcopy doesn't work to my knowledge). It does work only not as you would :=) --with echoplex sync out-- 1-loopcopy off: each loop can have a different tempo that is output by midi clock. its each successive endRecord that sets the cycle lenght/tempo 2-loop copy snd: same tempo/multiples lenght and the original loop is copied to the next loop; if you play it gets overdubed 3-loop copy time: same tempo/cycle lenght _but_ it behaves like a record :the loop is empty when you enter it . if you play it gets recorded try it Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 13:58:22 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27391; Fri, 11 May 2001 13:47:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 13:47:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <AaroneousAG@aol.com> From: AaroneousAG@aol.com Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 13:45:44 EDT Subject: re: Digitech PDS-8000 mods. . . To: <loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <e1.14742e9a.282d7f48@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0vB7PB.A.1pG.qVC_6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6868 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Curious if anyone has attempted to expand its capabilities . . . Zac, That was my first and only looping device for 3 years (pre jamman!) . . . she's just making farts and bleeps whenever I hook her up these days, but check out how much I abused her here: http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/DigiTech/PDS_8000_EchoPlus-01.html My review is the second one down. Basically, I just hooked up a larger knob to the speed control, so once a loop was set, I could SPEED-IT-UP or sloooww iit dooowwnn . . . with my toe. I'm sure you could do a cv control mod. The sample is 8-bit, so continuous overdubbing gets a little wacky, but you can set it so the previous dubs diminish in volume with the regen knob. I don't know about circuit bending on this, as it is a pretty packed digital board. Maybe you could get a pitch transpose, or add some dirt to the loop. The best would be allowing the regeneration to reach beyond %100 for a twisted tape-loop-feedback style explosion! I've seen these go for $350 these days. What did you pay? And who wants a busted version for parts? Email me off list and we can work it out. aaroneous From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 14:13:53 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA29144; Fri, 11 May 2001 14:11:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:11:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <daniel_c@vtr.net> Message-ID: <01a801c0da45$96963980$e000030a@vtr.net> Reply-To: "Daniel Cartes" <daniel_c@vtr.net> From: "Daniel Cartes" <daniel_c@vtr.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: pro tools Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:09:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01A4_01C0DA24.0CF78600" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <AwUrRB.A.SFH.wsC_6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6869 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01A4_01C0DA24.0CF78600 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_01A5_01C0DA24.0CF78600" ------=_NextPart_001_01A5_01C0DA24.0CF78600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable can anyone retell me the extension for Protools' plugins and where I = might find them for a moderate price if nothing. =D4_=D4 ------=_NextPart_001_01A5_01C0DA24.0CF78600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4522.1800" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>can anyone retell me the extension for = Protools'=20 plugins and where I might find them for a moderate price if=20 nothing.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>=D4_=D4</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_001_01A5_01C0DA24.0CF78600-- ------=_NextPart_000_01A4_01C0DA24.0CF78600 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="R.Moncayo.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="R.Moncayo.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:;R.Moncayo FN:R.Moncayo EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:moncayo@vtr.net REV:20010511T180953Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_01A4_01C0DA24.0CF78600-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 14:32:58 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA29638; Fri, 11 May 2001 14:28:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:28:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <rich@nuvision.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: <p04330101b721dd95adb5@[192.168.0.12]> In-Reply-To: <e1.14742e9a.282d7f48@aol.com> References: <e1.14742e9a.282d7f48@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:22:35 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich <rich@nuvisionsca.com> Subject: re: Digitech PDS-8000 mods. . . Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <TxadCB.A.lMH.n8C_6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6870 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >I've seen these go for $350 these days. What did you pay? And who >wants a busted version for parts? Email me off list and we can work >it out. > > > aaroneous ouch...$350? zowee...that's about what you could get them for new. As soon as the 'new' crop of delay lines started showing up...(DFX, DL4, boomerangs, jammies, etc.) the 'gotta have it at any price' value has dropped on these units considerably, at least here in the LA area. I sold mine for hmmm....$150? rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 14:41:20 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30018; Fri, 11 May 2001 14:39:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:39:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <bienappraisers@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <028701c0da4a$09832a80$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "Clifford@BienAppraisers" <bienappraisers@mindspring.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> References: <e1.14742e9a.282d7f48@aol.com> <p04330101b721dd95adb5@[192.168.0.12]> Subject: Re: Digitech PDS-8000 mods. . . Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:41:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <ZtIKUD.A.0SH.LHD_6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6871 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com You sold it to me for $160- :) Aaron- As for the messed up one that bleeps and blips- I am interested- contact me off list- werd up- Cliffanator5000 ----- Original Message ----- From: "rich" <rich@nuvisionsca.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 11:22 AM Subject: re: Digitech PDS-8000 mods. . . > >I've seen these go for $350 these days. What did you pay? And who > >wants a busted version for parts? Email me off list and we can work > >it out. > > > > > > aaroneous > > ouch...$350? zowee...that's about what you could get them for new. > As soon as the 'new' crop of delay lines started showing up...(DFX, > DL4, boomerangs, jammies, etc.) the 'gotta have it at any price' > value has dropped on these units considerably, at least here in the > LA area. > > I sold mine for hmmm....$150? > > rich > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 14:52:54 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30375; Fri, 11 May 2001 14:51:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:51:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <rich@nuvision.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: <p04330102b721e32bfdca@[192.168.0.12]> In-Reply-To: <028701c0da4a$09832a80$7bb387d8@cliff> References: <e1.14742e9a.282d7f48@aol.com> <p04330101b721dd95adb5@[192.168.0.12]> <028701c0da4a$09832a80$7bb387d8@cliff> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:45:20 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich <rich@nuvisionsca.com> Subject: Re: Digitech PDS-8000 mods. . . Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <co0WdB.A.hYH.1RD_6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6872 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com So sorry, cliff, i guess i owe you ten bucks. or maybe you owe me...let's see 350 - 160 = 190 you ripped me off, man! I'll be by tomorrow with raw garlic...you better have 190 bucks waiting for me or i'm not speaking with you again... rich >You sold it to me for $160- :) > >Aaron- As for the messed up one that bleeps and blips- I am interested- >contact me off list- werd up- Cliffanator5000 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "rich" <rich@nuvisionsca.com> >To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 11:22 AM >Subject: re: Digitech PDS-8000 mods. . . > > >> >I've seen these go for $350 these days. What did you pay? And who >> >wants a busted version for parts? Email me off list and we can work >> >it out. >> > >> > >> > aaroneous >> >> ouch...$350? zowee...that's about what you could get them for new. >> As soon as the 'new' crop of delay lines started showing up...(DFX, >> DL4, boomerangs, jammies, etc.) the 'gotta have it at any price' >> value has dropped on these units considerably, at least here in the >> LA area. >> >> I sold mine for hmmm....$150? >> >> rich >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 17:49:21 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA04554; Fri, 11 May 2001 17:46:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 17:46:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <jsd@cluttered.com> Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010511144206.00b51eb0@10.10.10.1> X-Sender: jsd@10.10.10.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:44:20 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Jon Drukman <jsd@cluttered.com> Subject: reaktor looper In-Reply-To: <B7186775.2CEC%dmgraph@earthlink.net> References: <20010503053927.24222.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <BwDxSD.A.JFB.W2F_6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6873 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi gang. i've always wanted one of those loop samplers like in the new line6 unit. however since i'm flat broke right now i decided to see if i could whip one up with Reaktor. well, it's pretty good, considering that Reaktor makes my head hurt. i'd love to make it go backwards/half speed like the line6 can do but that's way beyond my reaktor chops. here's a basic version though. plug in something and play and it layers and layers just like frippertronics. there's also a sampler so you can trigger a sound. i use a nice slow gonging bell sound. since my band is called bass kittens, the patch is called kittentronics... http://cluttered.com/Kittentronics.ens -jsd- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 18:23:42 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA06527; Fri, 11 May 2001 18:22:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 18:22:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <toby.gray@plantronics.com> Message-ID: <06A9F7A44D8BD411AE0E009027DE4F3546389B@mars.plantronics.com> From: "GRAY, Toby" <toby.gray@plantronics.com> To: "'Daniel Cartes'" <daniel_c@vtr.net>, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: pro tools Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 15:11:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0DA67.656728C0" Resent-Message-ID: <uZx54.A.ijB.fXG_6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6874 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0DA67.656728C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You might ask on the DUC (Digi User Conference) at digidesign.com. =20 It's going to depend if you are MAC or PC based as to what is available = for you and if you are running real ProTools or ProTools LE. ProTools Free = is a sub set of LE, AFAIK. Real ProTools runs card based plug ins and I believe, RTAS (Real Time = Audio Suite) and maybe AS (Audio Suite). PTLE runs RTAS and AS. =20 If you are looking for free. Consider systems that make use of Direct-X = plug ins. =20 ' hope this helps. =20 Cheers, Toby -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Cartes [mailto:daniel_c@vtr.net] Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 11:10 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: pro tools can anyone retell me the extension for Protools' plugins and where I = might find them for a moderate price if nothing. =D4_=D4 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0DA67.656728C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.600" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <CENTER><FONT color=3D#0000ff></FONT></CENTER> <DIV><SPAN class=3D750151022-11052001></SPAN><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20 color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2>Y<SPAN class=3D750151022-11052001>ou = might ask on=20 the DUC (Digi User Conference) at=20 digidesign.com.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D750151022-11052001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D750151022-11052001></SPAN><SPAN=20 class=3D750151022-11052001></SPAN><FONT face=3DArial><FONT = color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20 size=3D2>I<SPAN class=3D750151022-11052001>t's going to depend if you = are MAC or PC=20 based as to what is available for you and if you are running real = ProTools=20 or ProTools LE. ProTools Free is a sub set of LE,=20 AFAIK.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D750151022-11052001></SPAN><FONT face=3DArial><FONT=20 color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2>R<SPAN class=3D750151022-11052001>eal = ProTools runs=20 card based plug ins and I believe, RTAS (Real Time Audio Suite) and = maybe AS=20 (Audio Suite). PTLE runs RTAS and AS.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=3D750151022-11052001></SPAN><SPAN=20 class=3D750151022-11052001></SPAN><FONT face=3DArial><FONT = color=3D#0000ff><FONT=20 size=3D2></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2>I<SPAN=20 class=3D750151022-11052001>f you are looking for free. Consider systems = that make=20 use of Direct-X plug ins.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D750151022-11052001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D750151022-11052001>' hope this = helps.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D750151022-11052001></SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial><FONT color=3D#0000ff><FONT size=3D2><SPAN=20 class=3D750151022-11052001>Cheers,<BR>Toby</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></= DIV> <DIV><BR><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT = face=3DTahoma=20 size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Daniel Cartes=20 [mailto:daniel_c@vtr.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 11, 2001 11:10=20 AM<BR><B>To:</B> = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> pro=20 tools<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>can anyone retell me the extension = for Protools'=20 plugins and where I might find them for a moderate price if=20 nothing.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>=D4_=D4</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0DA67.656728C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 19:02:42 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA07176; Fri, 11 May 2001 18:51:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 18:51:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <nihilist> From: Jhsidlo@aol.com Message-ID: <e1.146f7261.282dc690@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 18:49:52 EDT Subject: Corpus Christi, Texas gig spam To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 Resent-Message-ID: <uCbjv.A.GuB.qyG_6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6875 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Please excuse me. The Daddy Monkey gig is on the 12th of May 2001. Tomorrow. More info at: www.lotuscup.com. Thanks (anticlockwise) James From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 19:45:37 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA09555; Fri, 11 May 2001 19:43:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 19:43:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <sburnett@webslingerz.com> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 19:43:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Burnett <sburnett@webslingerz.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: Re: OT Alesis Crash & Burn In-Reply-To: <3AEF5807.AAE1D6C9@home.com> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0105111940460.22875-100000@benjamin.webslingerZ.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0105111940462.22875@benjamin.webslingerZ.com> Resent-Message-ID: <pvxPcD.A.QTC.YkH_6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6876 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Tue, 1 May 2001, Will Brake wrote: > Alesis has officially filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy. They must have > put too much into the development of the new products!? More information > to follow as I get it. > > Be Well > > Will Brake It looks as though Alesis is likely to be acquired by Numark. There's an auction the 23rd for the company. http://www.harmony-central.com/News/2001/Alesis-Chapter-11.html regards, Steve ---------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Burnett Admin, webslingerZ sburnett@webslingerz.com http://www.webslingerz.com/sburnett From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 22:51:02 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA15770; Fri, 11 May 2001 22:49:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 22:49:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <Hedewa7@aol.com> From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <70.a8d93e4.282dfe29@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 22:47:05 EDT Subject: Re: reaktor looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <K8RtU.A.K0D.ERK_6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6877 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com jsd@cluttered.com writes: >just like frippertronics argh. but: thanks for the ensemble..... best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 22:54:27 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA16017; Fri, 11 May 2001 22:53:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 22:53:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <Hedewa7@aol.com> From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <b6.155b676a.282dff3c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 22:51:40 EDT Subject: Re: o.t. steinberger replacement parts To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <bibwdB.A.K4D.gVK_6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6878 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Nemoguitt@aol.com quoted: >"But with=20 >the revival of the Steinberger line at MusicYo, they=E2=80=99re having a fi= eld >day!!=20 >For them, it=E2=80=99s almost like Christmas!" a steinberger christmas w/o a trans-trem is no christmas, at all..... *-) best, dt /s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 11 22:55:45 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA16232; Fri, 11 May 2001 22:54:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 22:54:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <Hedewa7@aol.com> From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <28.15193eeb.282dffb9@aol.com> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 22:53:45 EDT Subject: Re: Boomerang----->alesis air-synth To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <MkWiSB.A.s6D.dXK_6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6879 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Nemoguitt@aol.com writes: >also they do not carry electrix products so >they had no idea what a "repeater" might be, go figure they intend to sell electrix, i've been told: *especially* the repeater. ask for kenny bergle. best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 12 05:51:57 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA27950; Sat, 12 May 2001 05:09:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 05:09:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <SoundFNR@aol.com> From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <7a.14a68be9.282e577e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 05:08:14 EDT Subject: Re: Way OT 4T To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 106 Resent-Message-ID: <3QvBw.A.wyG.k2P_6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6880 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 10/05/01 23:10:56 GMT Daylight Time, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com writes: > My question, does anyone know if this sounds like an easy fix (a dirty > connection that just needs to be cleaned (and if so, how (just compressed > air or something else needed)) or does this sound more involved? try spraying with a 'switch cleaner' aerosol, if not then replace the switch andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 12 13:58:46 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA10354; Sat, 12 May 2001 13:55:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 13:55:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <feeneymike@yahoo.com> X-Apparently-From: <feeneymike@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <004f01c0db0c$e1e9cba0$a697800a@cso0737101> From: "Mike Feeney" <feeneymike@yahoo.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> References: <1223050249-19018365@opendoor.com> Subject: iBook + MOTU 828 Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 12:56:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <uTbmlC.A.zfC.njX_6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6881 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is going to be my recording setup, I believe. the new iBook connected to the MOTU 828 interface. Having read over the online info on the MOTU (several times), I'm still not 100% clear on its use. I was wondering if someone who uses it wouldn't mind emailing me privately and letting me know how everything works... ie, can you record multiple tracks simultaneously?... would you still theoretically need a mixer or does it completely replace that?... do you use the recording software that comes with it (audiodesk)?... etc. i apologize for my newbie-ish questions... i've played guitar for about 10 years, and been a computer geek for a lot longer, but I'm still a little newish to computer audio, and have never been up to speed when it comes to all the electronic toys for recording / processing . Thanks! Mike Feeney feeneymike@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 12 14:21:53 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA12061; Sat, 12 May 2001 14:19:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 14:19:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <nihilist> Message-ID: <000a01c0db10$56dda5a0$0bbca618@kc.rr.com> From: "John Yoakum" <JYOAKUM@kc.rr.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> Subject: univox cartrige EC80-A TC-1 Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 13:21:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0DAE6.6DCDA1E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <nai9a.A.05C.g5X_6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6882 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0DAE6.6DCDA1E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Iam looking for tape cartrige for echo EC80-A could anyone of the loopers HELP? please let me know. Thank you all=20 John yoakum =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0DAE6.6DCDA1E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4611.1300" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D4>Iam looking for tape = cartrige for=20 echo EC80-A could anyone</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D4>of the = loopers  HELP? =20 please let me know.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D4></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D4>Thank you all </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D4> John yoakum</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow"=20 size=3D4>    </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0DAE6.6DCDA1E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 12 16:36:29 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA16378; Sat, 12 May 2001 16:32:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 16:32:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <was@dlcwest.com> Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010512143859.007a0d20@dlcwest.com> X-Sender: was@dlcwest.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 14:38:59 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Garry Wasyliw <was@dlcwest.com> Subject: Digitech PDS-8000 mods... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <5n7Y_D.A.69D.R3Z_6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6883 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Thu, 10 May 2001 14:04:54 -0700 >ZacRae <zacrae@pacbell.net> >Has anyone attempted (or succeeded) with any mods for this thing? If you open a digital delay and find trimmer pots, you can sometimes get interesting things to happen. I've got an RDS-8000 which is a rack unit and from a later generation, but it has three adjustments inside. The most interesting one appears to control the sampling frequency. If you turn it, you can adjust the delay down to a very low-fi, very long delay. When you sample something at a normal rate and turn it down, it becomes a long, grinding ambient loop. If you find an interesting adjustment, you can cut out the trimmer and reconnect the wires to a new pot installed on the front panel. I got the idea from reading about people having good luck with early Ibanez delays. Has anyone had one of the Boss digital delay pedals apart? Garry From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 13 11:28:15 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA20831; Sun, 13 May 2001 11:23:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 11:23:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <tcn62@ici.net> Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010513112116.007b1c10@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 11:21:16 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, gibson@nh.ultranet.com, BADGERPUPZ@cs.com From: Tim Nelson <tcn62@ici.net> Subject: New acoustic music from the Chain Tape Collective online now In-Reply-To: <3AF3143B.E602DC61@altruistmusic.com> References: <b7.dd3f988.2823f750@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <F83Zd.A.mCF.Zaq_6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6884 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com 'Acoustic', the latest release from the cyberspace-based Chain Tape Collective, has been posted in MP3 format, and may be downloaded from <http://www.loopxchange.com> As the title indicates, this one features music made by acoustic instruments only; not only will you hear guitars, there's saxophone, piano (prepared and reg'lar), wooden boards, bottles, alto recorder, inadvertently exploding glass candle holder, drums, wind chimes, flute, shakuhachi, violin, viola, sawblades, prayer cymbals, bamboo rattles, tanpura, swarmandala, six-string acoustic fretless bass, artillery shells, drift bamboo, lead pipe, heat sink, japanese boxes, african block, shaker, vibratone, various sticks and critter. There's even a bonus track where you get to hear Miko Biffle sing. While not every track employs looping techniques this time around, many of them still do. Check it out! Tim ps: If you're modem-bound like I am and don't want to tie up your system downloading, you can obtain a CD for a very reasonable price from Ribosome Music by e-mailing mattdavignon@hotmail.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 13 12:16:44 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA22746; Sun, 13 May 2001 12:14:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 12:14:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <j.pokorny@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: <001501c0dbc7$c075e2e0$ad954e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" <j.pokorny@worldnet.att.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>, <gibson@nh.ultranet.com>, <BADGERPUPZ@cs.com> Subject: Re: New acoustic music from the Chain Tape Collective online now Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 12:14:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <FRSeUD.A.DjF.kKr_6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6885 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tim wrote: >'Acoustic', the latest release from the cyberspace-based Chain Tape >Collective, has been posted in MP3 format, and may be downloaded from ><http://www.loopxchange.com> >not only will you hear guitars, there's saxophone, piano . . . lead pipe Yeah, but it sounds kind of empty without any "rhythm" pipe :-) Only kidding - this is a fantastic collection of very creative music. Give it a listen. James From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 13 12:26:42 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA22944; Sun, 13 May 2001 12:24:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 12:24:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <Nemoguitt@aol.com> From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <e.cdcaee9.28300f15@aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 12:23:49 EDT Subject: Re: New acoustic music from the Chain Tape Collective online now To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_e.cdcaee9.28300f15_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: <aHA_2D.A.WmF.6Ur_6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6886 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_e.cdcaee9.28300f15_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this is great news.....some really wonderful music to be found here.....m --part1_e.cdcaee9.28300f15_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>this is great news.....some really wonderful music to be found here.....m</FONT></HTML> --part1_e.cdcaee9.28300f15_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 13 17:29:19 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA02021; Sun, 13 May 2001 17:24:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 17:24:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <nihilist> Message-ID: <034a01c0dbf3$54efa020$c1aa5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" <billfox@fast.net> To: "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" <emusic-wdiy@yahoogroups.com> Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #216 Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 17:25:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <Ij9gD.A.cf.Nuv_6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6887 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. Show #216 May 10, 2001. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on the Jodrell Bank Concert series in the UK. The feature CD at midnight was a minidisc (from the mixing board) of the same concert that comprises the AirSculpture CDR from the Neu Harmony six CDR set, Concerts at Jodrell Bank. This minidisc is a copy of the Jodrell Bank 2000 disc from the Quark Soup two CD set of AirSculpture Performances. The other disc in this set is from their concert at E-Live in 1999. I also played the music of Spacecraft to promote their upcoming show at the next Gathering. Jodrell Bank http://wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/2001/focus01.html#may The Gathering http://wdiyfm.org/emusic/events.html PLAYLIST: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:04 pm VA [Max Richter] The House of Visual Sequences No. 25 Transference Spacecraft Dialogues of Energy Hummel (Lektronic Soundscapes) Steve Roach & Vir Unis Neurotropic Blood Machine (GreenHouse) [´ramp] Nodular Nodular (Manikin) TUU Exile One Thousand Years (Waveform) Jeff Pearce Migration of Souls The Light Beyond (Hypnos) Jeff Pearce Across the Infinite Sea The Light Beyond (Hypnos) 12:00 am AirSculpture Moments in Lowell Quark Soup - Jodrell Bank (Neu Harmony) AirSculpture Settee Quark Soup - Jodrell Bank (Neu Harmony) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) NEXT SHOW: ======================= ======================== ============================== On the next EMUSIC, I'll continue the month-long focus on the Jodrell Bank concerts in the UK as typified by the six CDR release from Neu Harmony. The feature CD at midnight will be the Arcane disc. I will also play the music of Spacecraft who will appear at the next Gathering in Philadelphia on May 19th. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 14 10:18:56 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA05405; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:11:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:11:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <nihilist> User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2106 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 16:05:38 +0200 Subject: Live performance in Florence, Italy From: Marco <superpolpaccio@libero.it> To: "Looper's Delight" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> Message-ID: <B725B279.2D7%superpolpaccio@libero.it> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id KAA05315 Resent-Message-ID: <HdK37C.A.cTB._a-_6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6888 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ". e basta" (and that's that) a live performance of voices, movement & music with Alessandra Aricò - voice, movement Marco Canaccini - percussions Massimo Fantoni - electric guitar Fernando Maraghini - voice, movement Saturday 20th, May 15 PM Extemporanea ex Stazione Leopolda Florence, Italy http://www.fabbricaeuropa.net/extemporanea.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 14 16:25:29 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA20820; Mon, 14 May 2001 16:17:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 16:17:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <emile@foryourhead.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: wolfmomm@mail.speakeasy.org (Unverified) Message-Id: <p05010407b725e77912f4@[66.92.74.193]> Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 15:51:39 -0400 To: ambient@hyperreal.org, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" <emile@foryourhead.com> Subject: Nord Modular question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <6Ow2dD.A.OEF.zyDA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6889 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, I've been thinking of buying a Nord Modular, but I'm not really sure it can do what I want. What I want to do is to set up a monophonic patch that creates a long sustained note, (using oscillators or the external audio inputs), and then to use keypresses on synthesizer (through MIDI) keys to trigger envelopes that affect this long note. Its not clear from the manual whether it is possible to do this without having the keypress retrigger or otherwise affect the steady state sound of the patch. One of the things I'm thinking of here is to have a sequence or the output of a delay going into the Nord. The basic sound would be a steady state 'drone' modifying the input signal (filter, volume control, or other effect) and outputting it. I would then program a sequence of MIDI keys to each apply an envelope which would affect one of the effects. So (e. g. hitting a particular MIDI note might cause an Lfo to be applied to the filter while the key is down). Have any of you tried anything like this. Probably I should post this to one of the users's forums. -- "Once the search is in progress, something will be found" -- Brian Eno and Peter Schmidt Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 14 16:33:13 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA21180; Mon, 14 May 2001 16:28:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 16:28:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <mark@redmoon-music.com> Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010514132139.023b2d20@mail.redmoon-music.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.redmoon-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:27:44 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver <mark@redmoon-music.com> Subject: Re: Nord Modular question In-Reply-To: <p05010407b725e77912f4@[66.92.74.193]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <AEmrwC.A.pKF.b_DA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6890 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) (12:51 PM 05/14/01) wrote: >Hi, (wow!) Hi! >One of the things I'm thinking of here is to have a sequence or the >output of a delay going into the Nord. The basic sound would be a steady >state 'drone' modifying the input signal (filter, volume control, or other >effect) and outputting it. I would then program a sequence of MIDI keys >to each apply an envelope which would affect one of the effects. So (e. g. >hitting a particular MIDI note might cause an Lfo to be applied to the >filter while the key is down). You can definitely do this with the Nord Modular (the Micro Modular as well). You can separate MIDI data coming into the machine as GATE and NOTE. So, to do what you're looking for, you would run a line from the GATE input to an Envelope Generator; an LFO into a "VCA", then the VCA to a filter. When you hit a key, or otherwise send MIDI note data, the GATE will fire the EG, which will open the VCA, which will modulate the filter. There is also a note detector/splitter module which you can use to set up different things to happen on different notes. I think that you'd have a lot of fun with the machine Doc. >Have any of you tried anything like this. Probably I should post this to >one of the users's forums. If you want to, the "main" NM list recently moved off of Wizoo. You can subscribe to it by sending email: to: majordomo@invert.com body: subscribe nord-modular Good luck! Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 14 17:23:06 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA23425; Mon, 14 May 2001 17:19:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 17:19:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <emile@foryourhead.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: wolfmomm@mail.speakeasy.org Message-Id: <p05010404b725fac4e1d1@[66.92.74.193]> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010514132139.023b2d20@mail.redmoon-music.com> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20010514132139.023b2d20@mail.redmoon-music.com> Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 17:16:07 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" <emile@foryourhead.com> Subject: Re: Nord Modular question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <jU35eC.A.jtF.6tEA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6891 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 1:27 PM -0700 5/14/01, Mark Pulver wrote: >Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) (12:51 PM 05/14/01) wrote: > >>Hi, > >(wow!) Hi! > > >>One of the things I'm thinking of here is to have a sequence or the >>output of a delay going into the Nord. The basic sound would be a steady >>state 'drone' modifying the input signal (filter, volume control, or other >>effect) and outputting it. I would then program a sequence of MIDI keys >>to each apply an envelope which would affect one of the effects. So (e. g. >>hitting a particular MIDI note might cause an Lfo to be applied to the >>filter while the key is down). > >You can definitely do this with the Nord Modular (the Micro Modular as well). > >You can separate MIDI data coming into the machine as GATE and NOTE. >So, to do what you're looking for, you would run a line from the >GATE input to an Envelope Generator; an LFO into a "VCA", then the >VCA to a filter. When you hit a key, or otherwise send MIDI note >data, the GATE will fire the EG, which will open the VCA, which will >modulate the filter. > >There is also a note detector/splitter module which you can use to >set up different things to happen on different notes. > >I think that you'd have a lot of fun with the machine Doc. Probably I would. I used to have a badly homebuild analog modular system that I dumped because I was tired of fixing bad solder joints, and because it couldn't save anything. My concern is that how do I prevent the incoming midi note data from retriggering the note. e. g. I set up a one octave monophonic drone from C3 to C4, then I want B2 to trigger an envelope that changes the filtering of the drone. I don.t want to retrigger or otherwise change the pitch of the existing drone. Its not clear from me from the docs that I can do this. > > >>Have any of you tried anything like this. Probably I should post this to >>one of the users's forums. > >If you want to, the "main" NM list recently moved off of Wizoo. You >can subscribe to it by sending email: > > to: majordomo@invert.com > body: subscribe nord-modular > >Good luck! > >Mark -- "Once the search is in progress, something will be found" -- Brian Eno and Peter Schmidt Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 14 17:45:15 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA23797; Mon, 14 May 2001 17:36:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 17:36:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <mark@redmoon-music.com> Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010514143040.024273f0@mail.redmoon-music.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.redmoon-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 14:35:02 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver <mark@redmoon-music.com> Subject: Re: Nord Modular question In-Reply-To: <p05010404b725fac4e1d1@[66.92.74.193]> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20010514132139.023b2d20@mail.redmoon-music.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20010514132139.023b2d20@mail.redmoon-music.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <V2BDMD.A.azF.e-EA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6892 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) (02:16 PM 05/14/01) wrote: >My concern is that how do I prevent the incoming midi note data from >retriggering the note. e. g. I set up a one octave monophonic drone from >C3 to C4, then I want B2 to trigger an envelope that changes the filtering >of the drone. I don.t want to retrigger or otherwise change the pitch of >the existing drone. Its not clear from me from the docs that I can do this. To accomplish what you're looking for, you would just not gate the EG/VCA that's handling the drone from the MIDI Gate output. One thing that I think will make things a lot clearer for you is to download the Editor from Clavia's site, fire it up and play with it. You don't need the NM/MM attached to be able to run it. http://www.clavia.se/nordmodular/demo.htm This is all off topic for the LD list, so you/we may want to continue this in private mail, or move over to the NM list. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 14 18:37:54 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA26021; Mon, 14 May 2001 18:32:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 18:32:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <massliv@dada.it> Message-ID: <001301c0dcc5$8a1872e0$79666ec3@abu10784> From: "Massimo Liverani" <massliv@dada.it> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> References: <B725B279.2D7%superpolpaccio@libero.it> Subject: R: Live performance in Florence, Italy Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 00:30:48 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: <UwUJC.A.HWG.hyFA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6893 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Grazie! , vedrò di fare un salto! Casomai ce la faresti a venire a casa di Fabio Capanni sabato mattina per suonare qualcosa un po' con noi? Lo devo comunicare anche a Massimo Fantoni che adesso come penso tu sappia è in Germania. Fabio Capanni abita a pian di mugnone (Fiesole) Ditemi di sì (è l'unica data possibile!) MaX > > a live performance of voices, movement & music with > > Alessandra Aricò - voice, movement > Marco Canaccini - percussions > Massimo Fantoni - electric guitar > Fernando Maraghini - voice, movement > > Saturday 20th, May > 15 PM > Extemporanea > ex Stazione Leopolda > Florence, Italy > > > http://www.fabbricaeuropa.net/extemporanea.html > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 14 18:57:00 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA26302; Mon, 14 May 2001 18:45:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 18:45:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <patthelooper@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [216.174.121.53] From: "Patrick Bailey" <patthelooper@hotmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 15:43:33 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F100YHkidcDjoYAPNXR0000000e@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2001 22:43:34.0208 (UTC) FILETIME=[4E9FEC00:01C0DCC7] Resent-Message-ID: <aFZkLB.A.jaG.1-FA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6894 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Okay, in need of a footswitch for the jamman. I searched the archives, all I came up with is the same that originally came with it. I'm not a big fan of those, too flimsy. Any suggestions for a replacement?/different brands? Thanks, Pat _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 14 19:17:54 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA26662; Mon, 14 May 2001 18:58:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 18:58:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <sine@zerocrossing.net> Message-ID: <3B0062F2.2488BD87@zerocrossing.net> Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 15:57:56 -0700 X-Sybari-Trust: 5ce29612 050014e1 00000000 From: Mark Sottilaro <sine@zerocrossing.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! References: <F100YHkidcDjoYAPNXR0000000e@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <EdrSYB.A.ZgG.6LGA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6895 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com just a week ago I found out that most generic keyboard sustain pedels work, as do the ones that came with my Ensonic TS-10 keyboard. As a matter of fact, they are the same as the MPM universal sustain pedels (without the polarity switch) I got at the Guitar Center for $14 each. (I don't recommend the Guitar Center, but they're OK in a pinch sometimes.) You'll also need a dual female mono to stereo jack adaptor. I've had no problems with the cheap Hosa ones available at most music stores. Mark Patrick Bailey wrote: > Okay, > in need of a footswitch for the jamman. I searched the archives, all I came > up with is the same that originally came with it. I'm not a big fan of > those, too flimsy. Any suggestions for a replacement?/different brands? > > Thanks, > Pat > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 14 19:20:27 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA27828; Mon, 14 May 2001 19:03:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 19:03:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <gendel777@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010514230319.7106.qmail@web5101.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 16:03:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Alx <gendel777@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <F100YHkidcDjoYAPNXR0000000e@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <irqEiC.A.ryG.4QGA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6896 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I´ve been using a Digitech FS300 with the Jamman, it works great with it. Alx --- Patrick Bailey <patthelooper@hotmail.com> wrote: > Okay, > in need of a footswitch for the jamman. I searched > the archives, all I came > up with is the same that originally came with it. > I'm not a big fan of > those, too flimsy. Any suggestions for a > replacement?/different brands? > > Thanks, > Pat > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 14 19:31:52 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA28575; Mon, 14 May 2001 19:27:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 19:27:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <j.kolling@chello.nl> Message-ID: <3B006ADD.217ABE46@chello.nl> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 01:31:41 +0200 From: mango <j.kolling@chello.nl> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN,eu,ca,ko,ja,no,ru,uk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! References: <F100YHkidcDjoYAPNXR0000000e@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <MXrXk.A.L-G.PnGA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6897 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, sorry i don't have an answer, but i'm looking for a pedal for the Vortex too :) Patrick Bailey wrote: > Okay, > in need of a footswitch for the jamman. I searched the archives, all I came > up with is the same that originally came with it. I'm not a big fan of > those, too flimsy. Any suggestions for a replacement?/different brands? > > Thanks, > Pat > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 14 20:01:09 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA28967; Mon, 14 May 2001 19:48:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 19:48:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <ekstasis1@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [208.245.109.16] From: "max valentino" <ekstasis1@hotmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 23:47:16 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F79cVUmsKHT4yKdw0bP000079ff@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 May 2001 23:47:16.0666 (UTC) FILETIME=[34FCB9A0:01C0DCD0] Resent-Message-ID: <96T-2C.A.VEH.k6GA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6898 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I bought two Boss FS-5U footswitches and then Y'd them together. They work great! Rugged and solid...and easy to step on! Improved the timing of my JamBoy loops too! Max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 02:39:44 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA12351; Tue, 15 May 2001 02:34:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 02:34:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <sine@zerocrossing.net> Message-ID: <3B00CDC0.F698AF93@zerocrossing.net> Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 23:33:36 -0700 X-Sybari-Trust: 21509e32 050014e1 00000000 From: Mark Sottilaro <sine@zerocrossing.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! References: <F100YHkidcDjoYAPNXR0000000e@hotmail.com> <3B006ADD.217ABE46@chello.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <h5Q8FB.A.X_C.Q3MA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6899 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com the JamMan and the Vortex use the same foot pedals mango wrote: > Hi, sorry i don't have an answer, but i'm looking for a pedal for the Vortex > too :) > > Patrick Bailey wrote: > > > Okay, > > in need of a footswitch for the jamman. I searched the archives, all I came > > up with is the same that originally came with it. I'm not a big fan of > > those, too flimsy. Any suggestions for a replacement?/different brands? > > > > Thanks, > > Pat > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 09:31:31 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA25762; Tue, 15 May 2001 09:26:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:26:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <spgoodman@earthlight.net> Message-ID: <003101c0dd42$26310260$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" <spgoodman@earthlight.net> From: "Stephen P. Goodman" <spgoodman@earthlight.net> To: "EarthLight NewsLetter" <newsletter@earthlight.net> Subject: Mixed News Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:19:38 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001C_01C0DD4A.12F2E300" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <vWdRuC.A.LSG.s5SA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6900 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C0DD4A.12F2E300 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_001D_01C0DD4A.12F2E300" ------=_NextPart_001_001D_01C0DD4A.12F2E300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings all, In the midst of the 200th Loop Of The Week Non-Contest, as you may have = heard already, I received the news of Douglas Adams' passing. To say = simply that this is a great loss to us is nearly trivial. In response I = am doing several things: 1. "Hitchhiker's Lament" is a long piece just completed and will be = posted before Friday night (the 18th) on the = http://www.earthlight.net/Studios page. Loops of the Week are no longer = dedicated on the passing of people, but focus instead on the future. In = any event I felt that a single loop was not sufficient. An entire = meditation piece on this was therefore necessary. 2. While the Loop Of The Week Non-Contest was to have halted on Sunday = night, it is now being extended to this Saturday night at 2359 GMT (1559 = PDT). The reasons beyond the above are mainly that people didn't have = enough time to get to the Studios site, and were in part confused about = both the sending of a hit counter graphic, as well as whether entering = would result in Spam being sent to them. Hopefully these issues have = been resolved. With Regards,=20 Stephen Goodman * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios=20 * 200th Loop Of The Week Contest ends May 19! ------=_NextPart_001_001D_01C0DD4A.12F2E300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dwindows-1252"><BASE=20 href=3D"file://C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft = Shared\Stationery\"> <STYLE>BODY { BACKGROUND-POSITION: left top; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #000080; = BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat; FONT-FAMILY: Tribuchet MS } </STYLE> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2462.0" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff = background=3Dcid:001b01c0dd41$b126d9e0$0201a8c0@stephen> <DIV>Greetings all,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In the midst of the 200th Loop Of The Week Non-Contest, as you may = have=20 heard already, I received the news of Douglas Adams' passing.  To = say=20 simply that this is a great loss to us is nearly trivial.  In = response I am=20 doing several things:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1.  "Hitchhiker's Lament" is a long piece just completed and = will be=20 posted before Friday night (the 18th) on the <A=20 href=3D"http://www.earthlight.net/Studios">http://www.earthlight.net/Stud= ios</A>=20 page.  Loops of the Week are no longer dedicated on the passing of = people,=20 but focus instead on the future.  In any event I felt that a single = loop=20 was not sufficient.  An entire meditation piece on this was = therefore=20 necessary.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2.  While the Loop Of The Week Non-Contest was to have halted = on=20 Sunday night, it is now being extended to this Saturday night at 2359 = GMT (1559=20 PDT).  The reasons beyond the above are mainly that people didn't = have=20 enough time to get to the Studios site, and were in part confused about = both the=20 sending of a hit counter graphic, as well as whether entering would = result in=20 Spam being sent to them.  Hopefully these issues have been = resolved.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>With Regards, </DIV> <DIV>Stephen Goodman<BR>* <A=20 href=3D"http://www.earthlight.net/Studios">http://www.earthlight.net/Stud= ios</A>=20 <BR>* 200th Loop Of The Week Contest ends May 19!</DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_001_001D_01C0DD4A.12F2E300-- ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C0DD4A.12F2E300 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="els800blue.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: <001b01c0dd41$b126d9e0$0201a8c0@stephen> /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wBDAAgGBgcGBQgHBwcJCQgKDBQNDAsLDBkSEw8UHRofHh0a HBwgJC4nICIsIxwcKDcpLDAxNDQ0Hyc5PTgyPC4zNDL/2wBDAQkJCQwLDBgNDRgyIRwhMjIyMjIy MjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjL/wAARCAA6AEUDASIA AhEBAxEB/8QAGQABAAMBAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEDBAIH/8QAIxAAAgIBAwMFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEC EQMhMVEEEkETYXGh8f/EABgBAQEBAQEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAgMF/8QAFxEBAQEBAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAERAv/aAAwDAQACEQMRAD8A9EAB7jAAAAAAAAAAAAAAkoy5HLIsabSq21v8F0m1FtOnTowR XpztatU7fnQ1zNVY4vG24ykpJWrd2+GjTjmskFJeV9mXN3OVyTt7KvBPTJwyKnSdpx9+Uas2amNY AOYAAAAAJKMuNdrcUlJU9FReQ1aa2vgsuDNKGSWRJum9dHdF2PHGGyt8vclRbyKUm3SaVvn8Oxel QACIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA/9k= ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C0DD4A.12F2E300-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 09:40:08 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA26038; Tue, 15 May 2001 09:34:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:34:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <spgoodman@earthlight.net> Message-ID: <003601c0dd42$3f4461c0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" <spgoodman@earthlight.net> From: "Stephen P. Goodman" <spgoodman@earthlight.net> To: "EarthLight NewsLetter" <newsletter@earthlight.net> Subject: Mixed News Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:21:51 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0029_01C0DD4A.62BC4D40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <xMZfjC.A.qWG.mBTA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6901 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C0DD4A.62BC4D40 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_002A_01C0DD4A.62BC4D40" ------=_NextPart_001_002A_01C0DD4A.62BC4D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings all, In the midst of the 200th Loop Of The Week Non-Contest, as you may have = heard already, I received the news of Douglas Adams' passing. To say = simply that this is a great loss to us is nearly trivial. In response I = am doing several things: 1. "Hitchhiker's Lament" is a long piece just completed and will be = posted before Friday night (the 18th) on the = http://www.earthlight.net/Studios page. Loops of the Week are no longer = dedicated on the passing of people, but focus instead on the future. In = any event I felt that a single loop was not sufficient. An entire = meditation piece on this was therefore necessary. 2. While the Loop Of The Week Non-Contest was to have halted on Sunday = night, it is now being extended to this Saturday night at 2359 GMT (1559 = PDT). The reasons beyond the above are mainly that people didn't have = enough time to get to the Studios site, and were in part confused about = both the sending of a hit counter graphic, as well as whether entering = would result in Spam being sent to them. Hopefully these issues have = been resolved. With Regards,=20 Stephen Goodman * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios=20 * 200th Loop Of The Week Contest ends May 19! ------=_NextPart_001_002A_01C0DD4A.62BC4D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"><BASE=20 href=3D"file://C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft = Shared\Stationery\"> <STYLE>BODY { BACKGROUND-POSITION: left top; FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #000080; = BACKGROUND-REPEAT: repeat; FONT-FAMILY: Tribuchet MS } </STYLE> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2462.0" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff = background=3Dcid:002801c0dd42$00f7e540$0201a8c0@stephen> <DIV>Greetings all,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In the midst of the 200th Loop Of The Week Non-Contest, as you may = have=20 heard already, I received the news of Douglas Adams' passing.  To = say=20 simply that this is a great loss to us is nearly trivial.  In = response I am=20 doing several things:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>1.  "Hitchhiker's Lament" is a long piece just completed and = will be=20 posted before Friday night (the 18th) on the <A=20 href=3D"http://www.earthlight.net/Studios">http://www.earthlight.net/Stud= ios</A>=20 page.  Loops of the Week are no longer dedicated on the passing of = people,=20 but focus instead on the future.  In any event I felt that a single = loop=20 was not sufficient.  An entire meditation piece on this was = therefore=20 necessary.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2.  While the Loop Of The Week Non-Contest was to have halted = on=20 Sunday night, it is now being extended to this Saturday night at 2359 = GMT (1559=20 PDT).  The reasons beyond the above are mainly that people didn't = have=20 enough time to get to the Studios site, and were in part confused about = both the=20 sending of a hit counter graphic, as well as whether entering would = result in=20 Spam being sent to them.  Hopefully these issues have been = resolved.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>With Regards, </DIV> <DIV>Stephen Goodman<BR>* <A=20 href=3D"http://www.earthlight.net/Studios">http://www.earthlight.net/Stud= ios</A>=20 <BR>* 200th Loop Of The Week Contest ends May 19!</DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_001_002A_01C0DD4A.62BC4D40-- ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C0DD4A.62BC4D40 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="els800blue.jpg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: <002801c0dd42$00f7e540$0201a8c0@stephen> /9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wBDAAgGBgcGBQgHBwcJCQgKDBQNDAsLDBkSEw8UHRofHh0a HBwgJC4nICIsIxwcKDcpLDAxNDQ0Hyc5PTgyPC4zNDL/2wBDAQkJCQwLDBgNDRgyIRwhMjIyMjIy MjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjIyMjL/wAARCAA6AEUDASIA AhEBAxEB/8QAGQABAAMBAQAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEDBAIH/8QAIxAAAgIBAwMFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEC EQMhMVEEEkETYXGh8f/EABgBAQEBAQEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABAgMF/8QAFxEBAQEBAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAERAv/aAAwDAQACEQMRAD8A9EAB7jAAAAAAAAAAAAAAkoy5HLIsabSq21v8F0m1FtOnTowR XpztatU7fnQ1zNVY4vG24ykpJWrd2+GjTjmskFJeV9mXN3OVyTt7KvBPTJwyKnSdpx9+Uas2amNY AOYAAAAAJKMuNdrcUlJU9FReQ1aa2vgsuDNKGSWRJum9dHdF2PHGGyt8vclRbyKUm3SaVvn8Oxel QACIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA/9k= ------=_NextPart_000_0029_01C0DD4A.62BC4D40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 09:58:11 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA26548; Tue, 15 May 2001 09:49:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:49:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <j.kolling@chello.nl> Message-ID: <3B012E7F.5C6FEB27@chello.nl> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:26:23 +0200 From: mango <j.kolling@chello.nl> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN,eu,ca,ko,ja,no,ru,uk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! References: <F100YHkidcDjoYAPNXR0000000e@hotmail.com> <3B006ADD.217ABE46@chello.nl> <3B00CDC0.F698AF93@zerocrossing.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <qxbPUD.A.UeG.4OTA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6902 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I see, i didn't know that yet, thanks for the info about that :) Mark Sottilaro wrote: > the JamMan and the Vortex use the same foot pedals > > mango wrote: > > > Hi, sorry i don't have an answer, but i'm looking for a pedal for the Vortex > > too :) > > > > Patrick Bailey wrote: > > > > > Okay, > > > in need of a footswitch for the jamman. I searched the archives, all I came > > > up with is the same that originally came with it. I'm not a big fan of > > > those, too flimsy. Any suggestions for a replacement?/different brands? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Pat > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 10:59:01 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA28803; Tue, 15 May 2001 10:55:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:55:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <dennis@mdbs.com> Message-ID: <000701c0dd4e$cb3b42a0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" <dennis@mdbs.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> References: <20010503053927.24222.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20010511144206.00b51eb0@10.10.10.1> Subject: Kyma Looping Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:53:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <mAtt0.A.xBH.hMUA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6903 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I am looking for a limited number of beta testers for my Looper Construction Kit for Kyma. The Kit requires Kyma 5.13 (the latest version) and a Capybara-320. I am particularly interested in testers who also use an EDP. If you are interested, please email me at: dennis@mail.worldserver.com Thanks! Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 12:15:36 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA32460; Tue, 15 May 2001 12:09:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:09:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <Mbiffle@svg.com> Message-Id: <sb00f188.092@mailhub.svg.com> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:06:09 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" <Mbiffle@svg.com> To: <patthelooper@hotmail.com>, <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: Re: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id MAA32413 Resent-Message-ID: <8ab7nD.A.s6H.WRVA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6904 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Pat, Roland/Boss FS5U. They're flatter and don't tip over... they also dovetail together to form a larger assembly... ** they're costly **. Overall they're worth it though... I believe Bespeco makes a comparable switch as well. Best, -Miko >>> patthelooper@hotmail.com 05/14/01 03:43PM >>> Okay, in need of a footswitch for the jamman. I searched the archives, all I came up with is the same that originally came with it. I'm not a big fan of those, too flimsy. Any suggestions for a replacement?/different brands? Thanks, Pat _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 13:14:07 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02454; Tue, 15 May 2001 13:07:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:07:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <mchriste@jaguar.middlebury.edu> Message-ID: <0FE98FA04927D411A48300D0B77CF9BB4D2667@tiger.middlebury.edu> From: "Christensen, Mark" <mchriste@jaguar.middlebury.edu> To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: RE: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:06:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <2htPWC.A.Dm.wIWA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6905 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com if you've got the bucks, go midi. i use a DMC Ground Control with mine and love it. m > -----Original Message----- > From: Patrick Bailey [SMTP:patthelooper@hotmail.com] > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 6:44 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! > > Okay, > in need of a footswitch for the jamman. I searched the archives, all I > came > up with is the same that originally came with it. I'm not a big fan of > those, too flimsy. Any suggestions for a replacement?/different brands? > > Thanks, > Pat > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 13:17:48 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02586; Tue, 15 May 2001 13:13:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:13:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <billowhead@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [207.189.148.4] From: "K. Michael Odnaloc" <billowhead@hotmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:12:09 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F1467P95LZbuPCHX2WK00003d67@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2001 17:12:09.0406 (UTC) FILETIME=[2CC5ADE0:01C0DD62] Resent-Message-ID: <QBXzeB.A.7n.IOWA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6906 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com As far as the vortex, I bought mine used and it came with a four switch box that looks like it was made from Radio Shack parts (works great too) so I can't imagine its too hard to make your own. Kevin > > Okay, > > in need of a footswitch for the jamman. I searched the archives, all I > > came > > up with is the same that originally came with it. I'm not a big fan of > > those, too flimsy. Any suggestions for a replacement?/different brands? > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 13:55:25 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA03541; Tue, 15 May 2001 13:49:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:49:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <rich@nuvision.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: <p04330101b7271ab7b766@[192.168.0.12]> In-Reply-To: <0FE98FA04927D411A48300D0B77CF9BB4D2667@tiger.middlebury.edu> References: <0FE98FA04927D411A48300D0B77CF9BB4D2667@tiger.middlebury.edu> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:43:17 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich <rich@nuvisionsca.com> Subject: RE: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <lbfyxD.A.u2.tvWA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6907 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >if you've got the bucks, go midi. i use a DMC Ground Control with mine and >love it. True enough...If you planned on paying for the Boss FS pedals, you would need 4 of them, plus the Y adapters, to gain the functionality of two 'double switch' lexicon pedals. That's a chunk of change, there. The midi pedal does alot of things the regular switches wont. rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 14:09:38 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA05229; Tue, 15 May 2001 14:02:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:02:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <dog@well.com> Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010515110151.00a9e310@mail.well.com> X-Sender: dog@mail.well.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:01:51 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: dan mcmullen <dog@well.com> Subject: RE: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! In-Reply-To: <0FE98FA04927D411A48300D0B77CF9BB4D2667@tiger.middlebury.ed u> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <q-V0TB.A.WPB.x7WA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6908 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 01:06 PM 5/15/01 -0400, you wrote: >if you've got the bucks, go midi. i use a DMC Ground Control with mine and >love it. the jamman has a noticable delay in handling the TAP function via midi compared to a directly wired footswitch. this is significant enough for me to have a direct footswitch (digitech fs300) for TAP (& FUNCTION, which isn't available via midi) even though i use midi to control the rest of the box. ymmv, dan ___ dan mcmullen, ca, usa don't worry - pay attention mailto:dog@well.com 707-485-0220 pgp fingerprint = 1C70 8D81 6B94 93A9 F2D8 9609 2122 BF70 8619 EDAF From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 14:20:28 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA05565; Tue, 15 May 2001 14:16:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:16:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <lucafeed@tin.it> Message-ID: <002901c0dd58$2a15b4a0$7487abd4@LucaFormentini> From: "luca" <lucafeed@tin.it> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: Event Ez-bus Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 18:00:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <-dPexC.A.hWB.SIXA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6909 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi Guys, has anyone tried the Event Ez-bus ? ciao, luca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 14:44:40 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA06193; Tue, 15 May 2001 14:37:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:37:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <patthelooper@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [216.174.121.53] From: "Patrick Bailey" <patthelooper@hotmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:36:15 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F84oygXLsxpTljBOh8s000011f0@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 May 2001 18:36:15.0507 (UTC) FILETIME=[EC7B9630:01C0DD6D] Resent-Message-ID: <OUjqkB.A.FgB.-cXA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6910 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Can't seem to find anything on the 'DMC Ground Control'. Can you point me in the right direction and what are some other suitable midi foot controllers? >From: "Christensen, Mark" <mchriste@jaguar.middlebury.edu> >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" ><Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> >Subject: RE: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! >Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:06:51 -0400 > >if you've got the bucks, go midi. i use a DMC Ground Control with mine and >love it. > >m > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Patrick Bailey [SMTP:patthelooper@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 6:44 PM > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! > > > > Okay, > > in need of a footswitch for the jamman. I searched the archives, all I > > came > > up with is the same that originally came with it. I'm not a big fan of > > those, too flimsy. Any suggestions for a replacement?/different brands? > > > > Thanks, > > Pat > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 14:59:40 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA06755; Tue, 15 May 2001 14:56:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:56:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <Mbiffle@svg.com> Message-Id: <sb0118d0.055@mailhub.svg.com> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:53:46 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" <Mbiffle@svg.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>, <dog@well.com> Subject: RE: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id OAA06700 Resent-Message-ID: <d0etWB.A._oB.tuXA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6912 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Dan... I'm with you on this issue. I found the PMC-10 midi controller's delay time unacceptable as well. I'd go with hard wired footswitches. I used to controll feedback and other functions with midi as well, but tap just didn't cut it. -Miko >>> dog@well.com 05/15/01 11:01AM >>> At 01:06 PM 5/15/01 -0400, you wrote: >if you've got the bucks, go midi. i use a DMC Ground Control with mine and >love it. the jamman has a noticable delay in handling the TAP function via midi compared to a directly wired footswitch. this is significant enough for me to have a direct footswitch (digitech fs300) for TAP (& FUNCTION, which isn't available via midi) even though i use midi to control the rest of the box. ymmv, dan ___ dan mcmullen, ca, usa don't worry - pay attention mailto:dog@well.com 707-485-0220 pgp fingerprint = 1C70 8D81 6B94 93A9 F2D8 9609 2122 BF70 8619 EDAF From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 14:59:40 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA06673; Tue, 15 May 2001 14:55:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:55:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <nihilist> Message-ID: <000c01c0dd70$d263b7c0$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "Clifford@BienAppraisers" <bienappraisers@mindspring.com> To: "Loopers Delight" <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com> Subject: OT: PC question Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:56:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0DD36.23C290E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <XZfh-B.A.BoB.WtXA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6911 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0DD36.23C290E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm looking for different ways to set up multiple hardware/software = configurations on a Win98 or Win2k computer- any tips appreciated- Cliff ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0DD36.23C290E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4613.1700" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I'm looking for different ways to set up multiple=20 hardware/software configurations on a Win98 or Win2k computer- any tips=20 appreciated- Cliff</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0DD36.23C290E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 15:13:58 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA08272; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:09:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:09:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <kamlapati.khalsa@philips.com> From: kamlapati.khalsa@philips.com To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: Re: Event Ez-bus Message-ID: <0056910012044034000002L142*@MHS> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:12:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 05/15/01 14:06:14" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id PAA08208 Resent-Message-ID: <o0pby.A.fAC.W7XA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6913 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have been looking for one in the flesh but unable to find one. I suspect the company is having trouble shipping, although I would be happy to hear otherwise. R, Brother Dog From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 15:15:13 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA08284; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:10:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:10:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <mchriste@jaguar.middlebury.edu> Message-ID: <0FE98FA04927D411A48300D0B77CF9BB4D266C@tiger.middlebury.edu> From: "Christensen, Mark" <mchriste@jaguar.middlebury.edu> To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: RE: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:09:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: <GBACvB.A.GBC.37XA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6914 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com http://www.voodoolab.com/ i haven't noticed any lag. now i gotta go compare/contrast.... m.c. > -----Original Message----- > From: Patrick Bailey [SMTP:patthelooper@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 2:36 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! > > Can't seem to find anything on the 'DMC Ground Control'. > > Can you point me in the right direction and what are some other suitable > midi foot controllers? > > > >From: "Christensen, Mark" <mchriste@jaguar.middlebury.edu> > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" > ><Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> > >Subject: RE: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! > >Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:06:51 -0400 > > > >if you've got the bucks, go midi. i use a DMC Ground Control with mine > and > >love it. > > > >m > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Patrick Bailey [SMTP:patthelooper@hotmail.com] > > > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 6:44 PM > > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > > Subject: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! > > > > > > Okay, > > > in need of a footswitch for the jamman. I searched the archives, all I > > > came > > > up with is the same that originally came with it. I'm not a big fan of > > > those, too flimsy. Any suggestions for a replacement?/different > brands? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Pat > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 15:19:28 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA08547; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:15:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:15:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <spgoodman@earthlight.net> Message-ID: <006601c0dd72$dfe968c0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" <spgoodman@earthlight.net> From: "Stephen P. Goodman" <spgoodman@earthlight.net> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> References: <200105082318.TAA04648@hemlock.violacea.com> <012401c0d8ed$039ddce0$3681e3a5@looppool> <013501c0d961$579bb050$080210ac@jpalmer> Subject: Loop Of The Week Non-Contest Extended Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:11:40 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <okbQZD.A.KEC.tAYA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6915 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In the midst of the 200th Loop Of The Week Non-Contest, as you may have heard already, I received the news of Douglas Adams' passing. To say simply that this is a great loss to us is nearly trivial. In response I am doing several things: 1. "Hitchhiker's Lament" is a long piece just completed and will be posted before Friday night (the 18th) on the http://www.earthlight.net/Studios page. Loops of the Week are no longer dedicated on the passing of people, but focus instead on the future. In any event I felt that a single loop was not sufficient. An entire meditation piece on this was therefore necessary. 2. While the Loop Of The Week Non-Contest was to have halted on Sunday night, it is now being extended to this Saturday night at 2359 GMT (1559 PDT). The reasons beyond the above are mainly that people didn't have enough time to get to the Studios site, and were in part confused about both the sending of a hit counter graphic, as well as whether entering would result in Spam being sent to them. Hopefully these issues have been resolved. With Regards, Stephen Goodman * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * 200th Loop Of The Week Contest ends May 19! > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 15:53:58 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA09370; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:50:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:50:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <rich@nuvision.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net (Unverified) Message-Id: <p04330100b72736f75aa9@[192.168.0.12]> In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010515110151.00a9e310@mail.well.com> References: <3.0.5.32.20010515110151.00a9e310@mail.well.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:43:54 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich <rich@nuvisionsca.com> Subject: RE: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <kV6tkB.A.1RC.ygYA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6916 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >the jamman has a noticable delay in handling the TAP function via midi >compared to a directly wired footswitch. this is significant enough for me >to have a direct footswitch (digitech fs300) for TAP (& FUNCTION, which >isn't available via midi) even though i use midi to control the rest of the >box. really? are you synched to a midi clock? or are you just looping freeform? if it's the latter...hmmm...i haven't seen any delay using my midi pedal. you must be doing some very critical stuff! I am using a Rolls MidiWizard, which has very short throw switches. best, rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 16:42:10 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA11581; Tue, 15 May 2001 16:35:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:35:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <PaulPokr@aol.com> From: PaulPokr@aol.com Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:33:40 EDT Subject: Speaker Selector Unit To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <d0.159be0fb.2832eca4@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: <xP8FFD.A.k0C.FLZA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6917 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey, all: Instead of buying another set of powered monitors, I was wondering what the feasibility would be of using a single pair of monitors between two audio sources. For example, using a single pair of, say, Alesis M1's between an Aardvark Direct Pro and a Tascam 788. The Aardvark has 1/4 inch and RCA monitor outputs. The Tascam 788 has RCA monitor outs. I have a speaker switch (a Niles, I believe) that has wire only connects. It's purpose is for stereo systems, primarily. Hence, I wouldn't want to use it for monitoring because of potential noise, etc. I saw a Samson amplifier/speaker selector in a local music store but couldn't see behind the unit. Anyone using a speaker selector rig? Regards, Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 16:47:45 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA11638; Tue, 15 May 2001 16:37:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:37:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <dog@well.com> Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010515133740.0097f210@mail.well.com> X-Sender: dog@mail.well.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:37:40 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: dan mcmullen <dog@well.com> Subject: RE: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! In-Reply-To: <sb0118d0.055@mailhub.svg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <STzcJC.A.f1C._NZA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6918 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 11:53 AM 5/15/01 -0700, Mike Biffle wrote: >Hi Dan... I'm with you on this issue. I found the PMC-10 midi controller's delay time unacceptable as well. I'd go with hard wired footswitches. I used to controll feedback and other functions with midi as well, but tap just didn't cut it. i don't think it's an issue with the pmc-10, or with midi for that matter. i use a modified peavey pc1600/rolls rfx midibuddy combo to control an edp record function using midi without similar problems. the peavey to jamman/edp midi chains are exactly the same to the point where parallel midi outputs feed both, and the jamman is just not as quick to respond to midi tap as the edp is to midi record. At 12:43 PM 5/15/01 -0700, rich wrote: >really? are you synched to a midi clock? or are you just looping freeform? >if it's the latter...hmmm...i haven't seen any delay using my midi >pedal. you must be doing some very critical stuff! this is freeform. it shows up when trying to start a loop with input having a sharp transient attack, which gets cut off on the jamman when i'm using midi tap. i suppose it's possible you could get used to tapping just a bit ahead of the downbeat in this case, though that wasn't easy or natural when i tried it. i'd rather just use a hardwired footswitch and not have to adjust my timing based on which box i'm using. ___ dan mcmullen, ca, usa don't worry - pay attention mailto:dog@well.com 707-485-0220 pgp fingerprint = 1C70 8D81 6B94 93A9 F2D8 9609 2122 BF70 8619 EDAF From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 16:48:04 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA11784; Tue, 15 May 2001 16:42:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 16:42:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <bienappraisers@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <008d01c0dd7f$de864360$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "Clifford@BienAppraisers" <bienappraisers@mindspring.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> References: <d0.159be0fb.2832eca4@aol.com> Subject: Re: Speaker Selector Unit Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 13:44:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <0y3iED.A.92C.VSZA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6919 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I use a small Behringer MX-802 mixer to disperse my MOTU mains to 2 monitor setups- you could use 1/4" adapters on the rca jacks- Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: <PaulPokr@aol.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 1:33 PM Subject: Speaker Selector Unit > Hey, all: > > Instead of buying another set of powered monitors, I was wondering what the feasibility would be of using a single pair of monitors between two audio sources. For example, using a single pair of, say, Alesis M1's between an Aardvark Direct Pro and a Tascam 788. The Aardvark has 1/4 inch and RCA monitor outputs. The Tascam 788 has RCA monitor outs. > > I have a speaker switch (a Niles, I believe) that has wire only connects. It's purpose is for stereo systems, primarily. Hence, I wouldn't want to use it for monitoring because of potential noise, etc. I saw a Samson amplifier/speaker selector in a local music store but couldn't see behind the unit. Anyone using a speaker selector rig? > > Regards, Paul > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 17:40:05 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA13762; Tue, 15 May 2001 17:20:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 17:20:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <whiteoakstudios@supanet.com> Message-ID: <001301c0dd84$2eaa2ce0$8abc6fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" <whiteoakstudios@supanet.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> References: <sb00f188.092@mailhub.svg.com> Subject: Re:Live Kyma loops Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 18:41:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: <7WVxUB.A.BWD.QzZA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6920 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, I'm playing in a steam ralley in Abergavenny, Wales on 27th May on the back of a truck, (if they don't like the music they can let the handbrake off I suppose : ) The music will be quite a departure from my normal output consisting of looped versions of traditional, (mainly Irish) tunes - reels and jigs. I build the tunes up live using a guitar, bass synthesizer and bodhran. Gareth From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 17:41:13 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA13738; Tue, 15 May 2001 17:19:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 17:19:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <whiteoakstudios@supanet.com> Message-ID: <001201c0dd84$2dd79aa0$8abc6fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" <whiteoakstudios@supanet.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> References: <sb00f188.092@mailhub.svg.com> Subject: Re: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 18:35:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: <-5LP9.A.FWD.QzZA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6921 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have 4 bespecco footswitches which slide together rather like the boss fs5u's. I'd say that they're not as positive in action though they do have a couple of interesting features, (interesting features? footpedals? my god - where's my anorak?). 1 If you press the switch in carefully about 1/2 way you can momentarily switch it on in a non-latching mode. 2 You can put an old pp3 type battery in it so you can tell if it's on or not. Gareth > Hi Pat, > > Roland/Boss FS5U. They're flatter and don't tip over... they also dovetail together to form a larger assembly... ** they're costly **. Overall they're worth it though... I believe Bespeco makes a comparable switch as well. > > Best, > -Miko > > >>> patthelooper@hotmail.com 05/14/01 03:43PM >>> > Okay, > in need of a footswitch for the jamman. I searched the archives, all I came > up with is the same that originally came with it. I'm not a big fan of > those, too flimsy. Any suggestions for a replacement?/different brands? > > Thanks, > Pat > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 19:24:30 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA19799; Tue, 15 May 2001 19:21:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 19:21:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <Nemoguitt@aol.com> From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <a2.143b6209.283313b9@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 19:20:25 EDT Subject: WAY WAY OT To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a2.143b6209.283313b9_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: <Z3kj1D.A.30E.fnbA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6922 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_a2.143b6209.283313b9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit im looking for any "fake books" that would have tunes from the 20's thru the 60's.....just wondering if anyone on the list might have anything like this, i want to start doing covers.....:).....m --part1_a2.143b6209.283313b9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>im looking for any "fake books" that would have tunes from the 20's thru the <BR>60's.....just wondering if anyone on the list might have anything like this, <BR>i want to start doing covers.....:).....m</FONT></HTML> --part1_a2.143b6209.283313b9_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 20:14:35 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA22069; Tue, 15 May 2001 20:07:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:07:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <gendel777@yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20010516000659.6632.qmail@web5103.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 17:06:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Alx <gendel777@yahoo.com> Subject: Help with my DL4... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010515110151.00a9e310@mail.well.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <ARW5vC.A.jYF.lScA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6923 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello, I have a problem with my DL4: the second switch (play/stop) isn´t working properly, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn´t, that started to happen today, first I though that the switch itself was bad but with an electrical-meter I checked it and it´s ok so I think it´s a software problem ´cause all the solder points are ok too, could someone please post again the email of the guy from line6 that has helped some of the guys in this list?, has anybody had similar problems with their DL4´s?. Thanks. Alx. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 20:51:53 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA22893; Tue, 15 May 2001 20:48:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:48:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <become_1@email.msn.com> Message-ID: <002c01c0dda1$29ef5dc0$d70d1a3f@oemcomputer> From: "become_1" <become_1@email.msn.com> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> References: <sb0118d0.055@mailhub.svg.com> Subject: OT: Glissentar, Alesis monitors on Ebay Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:42:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2001 00:46:25.0399 (UTC) FILETIME=[A29C2870:01C0DDA1] Resent-Message-ID: <4B6c_B.A.HlF.G5cA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6924 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thought someone on the list might be interested-- the Glissentar: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1430965470&r=0&t=0&sh owTutorial=0&ed=990672984&indexURL=0&rd=1 and the Alesis active monitors: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1430067440&r=0&t=0&sh owTutorial=0&ed=990067643&indexURL=0&rd=1 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 20:54:06 2001 Return-Path: <Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com> Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA23023; Tue, 15 May 2001 20:51:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:51:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <Steuart.Liebig@maritz.com> Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB21B@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." <Steuart.Liebig@maritz.com> To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> Subject: RE: New acoustic music from the Chain Tape Collective online now Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 12:38:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0DC94.4E452A00" Resent-Message-ID: <mMV-Z.A.AnF.K8cA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com> archive/latest/6925 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0DC94.4E452A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" As the title indicates, this one features music made . . . six-string acoustic fretless bass, ** who has this instrument? i'm interested to hear about it. please contact off list. thanks, stig ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0DC94.4E452A00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"> <META NAME="Generator" CONTENT="MS Exchange Server version 5.5.2653.12"> <TITLE>RE: New acoustic music from the Chain Tape Collective online now

As the title indicates, this one features music made  . . .  six-string acoustic fretless bass,

** who has this instrument? i'm interested to hear about it. please contact off list.

thanks,

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C0DC94.4E452A00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 20:59:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA23281; Tue, 15 May 2001 20:56:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:56:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010515205547.007afdb0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:55:47 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: RE: New acoustic music from the Chain Tape Collective online now In-Reply-To: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB21B@migarexch01.marit z.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <-fo2zB.A.lrF.-AdA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6926 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Scott Kungha Drensen played it on his track. (He borrowed it from Kai Eckhardt.) -t At 12:38 PM 5/14/01 -0400, you wrote: > > > six-string acoustic fretless bass, ** who has this instrument? i'm >interested to hear about it. please contact off list. thanks, stig From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 15 20:59:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA23309; Tue, 15 May 2001 20:57:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:57:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Message-ID: <48.15d5cda9.28332a37@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 20:56:23 EDT Subject: Re: Speaker Selector Unit To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6927 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com HI, CLiff: You know, that's not a bad idea. A small sub-mixer could always come in handy in the future even if one decides to forgo the monitor switching (particularly if I win the lottery and buy myself some Genelecs). I checked the Behringer's and there's also a smaller version 602A for $99.00. The 802A goes for around $139.00 locally in Pittsburgh. Thanks for your input. Regards, Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 16 01:38:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA00676; Wed, 16 May 2001 01:35:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 01:35:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [208.245.109.16] From: "max valentino" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 05:34:13 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2001 05:34:13.0828 (UTC) FILETIME=[D7655040:01C0DDC9] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6928 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com yes , this is true. I was using a Rolls MidiBuddy for a while. It's pretty inexpensive (around $100 new). And while it did give access to all the parameters (incl. the "hidden" midi functions) I did notice a barely perceptiple lag. Just perceptible enough to frustrate. It might just be me, but I have found the timing of loops (and the rhythm there within) to be much tighter and more dynamic using the Boss FS5U's and avoiding MIDI altogether.....but then I am not syncing to anything else, either (solo bass/loops).... Max >From: rich >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: RE: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! >Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 10:43:17 -0700 > >>if you've got the bucks, go midi. i use a DMC Ground Control with mine >>and >>love it. > >True enough...If you planned on paying for the Boss FS pedals, you >would need 4 of them, plus the Y adapters, to gain the functionality >of two 'double switch' lexicon pedals. That's a chunk of change, >there. > >The midi pedal does alot of things the regular switches wont. > >rich > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 16 01:40:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA00726; Wed, 16 May 2001 01:37:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 01:37:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [208.245.109.16] From: "max valentino" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 05:36:34 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2001 05:36:35.0124 (UTC) FILETIME=[2B9D5F40:01C0DDCA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6929 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ahhhhh....I am not alone in this perception of MIDI delay! Max >From: dan mcmullen >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: RE: jamman footswitch..another jam-thread! >Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 11:01:51 -0700 > >At 01:06 PM 5/15/01 -0400, you wrote: > >if you've got the bucks, go midi. i use a DMC Ground Control with mine >and > >love it. > >the jamman has a noticable delay in handling the TAP function via midi >compared to a directly wired footswitch. this is significant enough for me >to have a direct footswitch (digitech fs300) for TAP (& FUNCTION, which >isn't available via midi) even though i use midi to control the rest of the >box. > >ymmv, dan >___ >dan mcmullen, ca, usa don't worry - pay attention >mailto:dog@well.com 707-485-0220 >pgp fingerprint = 1C70 8D81 6B94 93A9 F2D8 9609 2122 BF70 8619 EDAF > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 16 01:47:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA00989; Wed, 16 May 2001 01:45:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 01:45:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [208.245.109.16] From: "max valentino" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Help with my DL4... Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 05:44:19 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 May 2001 05:44:19.0699 (UTC) FILETIME=[4085E430:01C0DDCB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6930 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey Alx....I kinda had a similar problem with mine. Sometimes punching the 2nd switch would work and sometimes not. I too thought something was up (or down) with it. But I turned the cap button on that switch (like tightening a screw) and viola! No more problem. I really don't know if that was any kind of technical rememdy, but I have had no more such problems! Max >From: Alx >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Help with my DL4... >Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 17:06:59 -0700 (PDT) > >Hello, I have a problem with my DL4: the second switch >(play/stop) isn´t working properly, sometimes it works >and sometimes it doesn´t, that started to happen >today, first I though that the switch itself was bad >but with an electrical-meter I checked it and it´s ok >so I think it´s a software problem ´cause all the >solder points are ok too, could someone please post >again the email of the guy from line6 that has helped >some of the guys in this list?, has anybody had >similar problems with their DL4´s?. >Thanks. >Alx. > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 16 02:21:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA02823; Wed, 16 May 2001 02:19:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 02:19:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005c01c0ddd0$e476c960$1781e3a5@looppool> From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: References: <200105151755.NAA03749@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: re: jamman footpedals Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 23:24:30 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <9FXmp.A.2r.QvhA7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6931 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com mark wrote: if you've got the bucks, go midi. i use a DMC Ground Control with mine and love it. I agree and if you only have one jamman, there are a lot of hidden functions that cannot be used with the front panel and footswitches alone. Unfortunately, there seems to be some nasty latency issues when using midi control footpedals. You can, however, create long fadeouts of your loops for ending songs seemlessly. I believe you can also mute your loop and then restart at the beginning of the loop which, I think, you can't do with the normal footswitches. Thumbs up to those boss footswitches but, whew, are they pricey. Rick Walker (loop.pool) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 16 11:49:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA19951; Wed, 16 May 2001 11:42:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 11:42:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 08:21:36 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: RE: jamman footswitch >> midi controllers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id LAA19916 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6932 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 11:53 AM 5/15/01 -0700, Mike Biffle wrote: >> Hi Dan... I'm with you on this issue. I found the PMC-10 midi controller's delay time unacceptable as well. I'd go with hard wired footswitches. I used to controll feedback and other functions with midi as well, but tap just didn't cut it. > i don't think it's an issue with the pmc-10, or with midi for that matter. i use a modified peavey pc1600/rolls rfx midibuddy combo to control an edp record function using midi without similar problems. the peavey to jamman/edp midi chains are exactly the same to the point where parallel midi outputs feed both, and the jamman is just not as quick to respond to midi tap as the edp is to midi record. That's why I don't have a JamMan anymore. 8-) I've used the PMC-10 for EDP control and had good success... although I'm tending to NOT use midi right now mostly due to floor/footprint considerations. I've got a Lexi PMC 80, Korg AM8000r and TC D-Two, all of which have dedicated switch/exped inputs... so I hard wire what I need there and live with that. It's a case of not wanting to 'shop' around for the correct patch/bank on the midi controller to gain control. I just hit the appropriate switch or exped and go... OTOH... when I need to change patches, I have to reach over and crank around 'shopping' for a patch. I don't tend to change patches as much anymore... I build the sonic change capabilities using cc values inside a single patch... I AM tempted by the Peavey PC1600 and other tabletop controllers such as the Emu Launchpad though... Argh! More $$$$$$! The only way I acquired my PMC 80 was to go into indentured servitude doing sessions in trade for it... But boy... am I happy I've got that box! Best, -Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 16 16:41:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA30573; Wed, 16 May 2001 16:32:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 16:32:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Jeff Harmon" To: Subject: Looping for guitar Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 16:31:52 -0400 Message-ID: <000501c0de47$3dc8fbc0$020110ac@isharedsl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0DE25.B6B75BC0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6933 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0DE25.B6B75BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I hope someone can help me.....I would like to loop "snippets" of guitar from my favorite CD's so that I can more easily hear the parts and learn them...how can i do this?..thanks ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0DE25.B6B75BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0DE25.B6B75BC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 16 16:51:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA30947; Wed, 16 May 2001 16:45:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 16:45:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B02E761.CADAFAE1@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 13:47:34 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping for guitar References: <000501c0de47$3dc8fbc0$020110ac@isharedsl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6934 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Jeff Harmon wrote: > I hope someone can help me.....I would like to loop "snippets" of > guitar from my favorite CD's so that I can more easily hear the parts > and learn them...how can i do this?..thanks there are several relatively inexpensive devices out there that do this. none of them come to mind at the moment, but you could check on harmony central and i think you'd find something (try a search under *phrase samplers*...) most of the hardware that gets discussed on this list has been designed for *creative looping*, and ranges from relatively basic (but with more capabilities than what you're asking for) to very complex... stick around, though, and some of our loopiness may rub off on you :-) hope that helps best, lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 16 16:56:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA31136; Wed, 16 May 2001 16:50:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 16:50:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Message-Id: <200105162049.NAA06419@avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 13:51:17 -0700 Subject: Re: Looping for guitar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3072865877_118339_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6935 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3072865877_118339_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit i used to use and still have the . it lets you record sections,hold those samples and then set loop from start to finish and then playback @normal-2/3-1/2 tempo w/out changing pitch... they are pretty cheap and its probably what you are lookin for. stanner ---------- From: "Jeff Harmon" To: Subject: Looping for guitar Date: Wed, May 16, 2001, 1:31 PM I hope someone can help me.....I would like to loop "snippets" of guitar from my favorite CD's so that I can more easily hear the parts and learn them...how can i do this?..thanks --MS_Mac_OE_3072865877_118339_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Looping for guitar i used to use and still have the <akai professional  riff-o-matic u= 40  variable tempo/pitch phrase recorder>. it lets you record sectio= ns,hold those samples and then set loop from start to finish and then playba= ck @normal-2/3-1/2 tempo w/out changing pitch... they are pretty cheap and i= ts probably what you are lookin for.

stanner
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From: "Jeff Harmon" <Jeff@audiotoys.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Subject: Looping for guitar
Date: Wed, May 16, 2001, 1:31 PM


I hope someone can help me.....I would like to l= oop "snippets" of guitar from my favorite CD's so that I can more = easily hear the parts and learn them...how can i do this?..thanks

--MS_Mac_OE_3072865877_118339_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 16 17:01:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA31602; Wed, 16 May 2001 16:58:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 16:58:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: kamlapati.khalsa@philips.com To: Subject: Re: Looping for guitar Message-ID: <0056910012079870000002L102*@MHS> Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 16:00:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="MEMO 05/16/01 15:53:15" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id QAA31576 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6936 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com << I hope someone can help me.....I would like to loop "snippets" of guitar from my favorite CD's so that I can more easily hear the parts and learn them...how can i do this?..thanks >> My technique : I extract the CD into Sound Forge, then set loop points. Very simple and very effective. Brother Dog From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 16 17:31:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00820; Wed, 16 May 2001 17:29:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 17:29:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 14:26:25 -0700 From: "Tim Sanz" To: Subject: Re: Looping for guitar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id RAA00792 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6937 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >>> Jeff@audiotoys.com 05/16 1:31 PM >>> I hope someone can help me.....I would like to loop "snippets" of guitar from my favorite CD's so that I can more easily hear the parts and learn them...how can i do this?..thanks I use a 13 year old Radio Shack cd player that has an a/b selector on it. It allows you to cue the start (a) and end (b) to grab a riff and then loops it. They don't loop smoothly cause the player has to stop then go to the beginning, but hey, it does work for rippin off licks. You could probably find any old cd player that has that feature cheep. Cheers- Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 16 19:16:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04773; Wed, 16 May 2001 19:03:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 19:03:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 15:23:25 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Looping for guitar In-reply-to: <000501c0de47$3dc8fbc0$020110ac@isharedsl> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1222070280==_ma============" References: <000501c0de47$3dc8fbc0$020110ac@isharedsl> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6938 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1222070280==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 4:31 PM -0400 5/16/01, Jeff Harmon wrote: >I hope someone can help me.....I would like to loop "snippets" of >guitar from my favorite CD's so that I can more easily hear the >parts and learn them...how can i do this?..thanks Here are a few widgets designed for just that purpose: Akai U-400 Riff-O-Matic $249.00 http://www.akaipro.com/consumersite/productpage.asp?id=88§ion=overview Sabine Backtrack Digital Sampler/Riff Decoder $119.95 ($79.99) http://www.Sabine.com/newsite/liveapps/ibktraka.htm http://www.Sabine.com/newsite/liveapps/ibktrakb.htm TR-1000 Digital Music Study Recorder $249.95 ($235.00) http://www.reedkotler.com/Products/TR-1000/tr-1000.html. TR-400 Digital Music Study Recorder $149.95 http://www.reedkotler.com/Products/TR-400/tr-400.html -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz --============_-1222070280==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Looping for guitar
At 4:31 PM -0400 5/16/01, Jeff Harmon wrote:
I hope someone can help me.....I would like to loop "snippets" of guitar from my favorite CD's so that I can more easily hear the parts and learn them...how can i do this?..thanks

Here are a few widgets designed for just that purpose:

Akai U-400 Riff-O-Matic
$249.00
http://www.akaipro.com/consumersite/productpage.asp?id=88&section=overview

Sabine Backtrack Digital Sampler/Riff Decoder
$119.95 ($79.99)
http://www.Sabine.com/newsite/liveapps/ibktraka.htm
http://www.Sabine.com/newsite/liveapps/ibktrakb.htm


TR-1000 Digital Music Study Recorder
$249.95 ($235.00)
http://www.reedkotler.com/Products/TR-1000/tr-1000.html.
TR-400 Digital Music Study Recorder
$149.95
http://www.reedkotler.com/Products/TR-400/tr-400.html


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Richard Zvonar, PhD      
(818) 788-2202                                 
http://www.zvonar.com
http://RZCybernetics.com
http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone
http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz
--============_-1222070280==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 17 03:12:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA19831; Thu, 17 May 2001 03:09:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 03:09:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000a01c0dea0$abc10060$fc518218@om> From: "Om_Audio" To: References: <000501c0de47$3dc8fbc0$020110ac@isharedsl> Subject: Re: Looping for guitar Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 00:12:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0DE65.FF2FCDC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <5SurRC.A.v1E.9j3A7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6939 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0DE65.FF2FCDC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Looping for guitarI can attest to one thing- the Sabine Backtrack = sounds like shit. Blunt but true- Thanks for the links Richard- The Akai = looks interesting... Cliff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Richard Zvonar=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 3:23 PM Subject: Re: Looping for guitar At 4:31 PM -0400 5/16/01, Jeff Harmon wrote: I hope someone can help me.....I would like to loop "snippets" of = guitar from my favorite CD's so that I can more easily hear the parts = and learn them...how can i do this?..thanks Here are a few widgets designed for just that purpose: Akai U-400 Riff-O-Matic $249.00 = http://www.akaipro.com/consumersite/productpage.asp?id=3D88§ion=3Dove= rview Sabine Backtrack Digital Sampler/Riff Decoder $119.95 ($79.99) http://www.Sabine.com/newsite/liveapps/ibktraka.htm http://www.Sabine.com/newsite/liveapps/ibktrakb.htm TR-1000 Digital Music Study Recorder $249.95 ($235.00) http://www.reedkotler.com/Products/TR-1000/tr-1000.html. TR-400 Digital Music Study Recorder $149.95 http://www.reedkotler.com/Products/TR-400/tr-400.html --=20 ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD =20 (818) 788-2202 =20 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=3Drz ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0DE65.FF2FCDC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: Looping for guitar
I can attest to one thing- the Sabine = Backtrack=20 sounds like shit. Blunt but true- Thanks for the links Richard- The Akai = looks=20 interesting...
Cliff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Richard = Zvonar=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 = 3:23=20 PM
Subject: Re: Looping for = guitar

At 4:31 PM -0400 5/16/01, Jeff Harmon wrote:
I hope someone can help me.....I = would like=20 to loop "snippets" of guitar from my favorite CD's so that I can = more easily=20 hear the parts and learn them...how can i do = this?..thanks

Here are a few widgets designed for just that purpose:

Akai U-400 Riff-O-Matic
$249.00
http://www.akaipro.com/consumersite/productpage.asp?id= =3D88&section=3Doverview

Sabine Backtrack Digital Sampler/Riff Decoder
$119.95 ($79.99)
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http://www.Sabine.com/newsite/liveapps/ibktraka.htm
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http://www.Sabine.com/newsite/liveapps/ibktrakb.htm


TR-1000 Digital Music Study Recorder
$249.95 ($235.00)
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http://www.reedkotler.com/Products/TR-1000/tr-1000.html.<= /TT>
TR-400 Digital Music Study Recorder
$149.95
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http://www.reedkotler.com/Products/TR-400/tr-400.html
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______________________________________________________________Richard=20 Zvonar, PhD       =
(818)=20 788-2202 =20        =20        =20        =20        =20 =
http://www.zvonar.com
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0DE65.FF2FCDC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 17 11:10:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA00695; Thu, 17 May 2001 11:06:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 11:06:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Delivered-To: fixup-Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com@fixme User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 08:00:02 -0700 Subject: Gig Spam [Seattle, WA]: Electrochakra @ Black Lab Gallery 5/19/01 From: Travis Hartnett To: "Looper's Delight" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6940 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Electrochakra will be performing at the Black Lab Gallery (5208 Ballard Ave. NW--right across the road from the Tractor Tavern) this Saturday, May 19th between 8 and 10PM. Admission is free, and the venue all-ages and smoke-free. Be seeing you, Travis Hartnett Electrochakra -- NEW official Electrochakra website: www.electrochakra.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 17 13:03:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA03803; Thu, 17 May 2001 12:58:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 12:58:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 10:00:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Trey Donovan X-Sender: treydonovan@keops.ekabal.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Help with my DL4... In-Reply-To: <20010516000659.6632.qmail@web5103.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id MAA03760 Resent-Message-ID: <9rOdQD.A._6.VMAB7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6941 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have been having exactly the same problem with mine, except it's the record button that's getting squirrely. I put the unit in a green plastic suitcase and sent it on vacation in the mountains over the weekend, and the problem seems to have gone away momentarily... (no joke) Who knows, maybe everbody, even electronic devices, needs a break now and then. But seriously if anyone knows if there's a trick to resetting the unit or otherwise fixing this bizarre breakdown, don't hold back on us! I'm gonna go buy another DL4 as a backup and also to be able to loop one through the other with the delay effects and multiple loops. -trey On Tue, 15 May 2001, Alx wrote: > Hello, I have a problem with my DL4: the second switch > (play/stop) isn´t working properly, sometimes it works > and sometimes it doesn´t, that started to happen > today, first I though that the switch itself was bad > but with an electrical-meter I checked it and it´s ok > so I think it´s a software problem ´cause all the > solder points are ok too, could someone please post > again the email of the guy from line6 that has helped > some of the guys in this list?, has anybody had > similar problems with their DL4´s?. > Thanks. > Alx. > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 17 13:26:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA05289; Thu, 17 May 2001 13:23:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:23:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B0409A5.1BDF6A74@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 10:26:10 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping for guitar References: <000501c0de47$3dc8fbc0$020110ac@isharedsl> <000a01c0dea0$abc10060$fc518218@om> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6942 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Om_Audio wrote: > I can attest to one thing- the Sabine Backtrack sounds like shit. > Blunt but true- Thanks for the links Richard- The Akai looks > interesting...Cliff > > > i think i've got one of those akai units sitting on a shelf somewhere. if it's the one, i remember it sounding pretty bad as well (which is why it sits on the shelf...). but i think the point was to be able to use it as a practice tool. the ability to slow the loop without changing pitch is its main feature, but the resampling gets horrid pretty quickly...but of course it adds to the charm. :-) lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 17 14:16:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA07596; Thu, 17 May 2001 14:12:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:12:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B04143A.E4BBB337@zerocrossing.net> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 11:11:04 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: New PC based loop/mixing tools References: <000501c0de47$3dc8fbc0$020110ac@isharedsl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6943 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey, I'm not a DJ (don't even play on on TV) but if I were, this seems a sweet little tool for looping: http://www.mixman.com/html_h/dm2.html Screw CDs. If you're in the digital domain, why not just deal with the source file? Word. Also, I've got a question: I'm interested in collaborating with a DJ. Not one that just mixes tracks, but one that is much more about pulling samples from a lot of different sources and making something new. My job would be to supply guitar, synths and other wacky devices to the mix. Anyway, every DJ I talk to seems to be against playing with real musicians for some reason. I've heard things like, "when you bring a musician into a show, it gets a lot more complicated." and "I like to have full control of the music." The one DJ I've met that's played with me IS a musician (classically trained double bass) but she more or less just fades tracks into each other, adjusting pitch and tempo so they blend nicely. I'm hoping for a lot more sound collage. Any comments? If you're in the SF Bay area and would like to get together, mail me off the list. I'm into a very wide range of music. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 17 15:03:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA08434; Thu, 17 May 2001 14:56:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:56:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 11:56:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Rik Elswit Message-Id: <200105171856.LAA27744@well.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New PC based loop/mixing tools Resent-Message-ID: <-KAZ1D.A.YDC.K7BB7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6944 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Look for where "Live Human" is playing. It consists of a guy who calls himself DJ Quest and two other musicians. He is amaing to watch and listen to, and can probably introduce you to more DJs who are amenable to working with musicians. Live Human is a Bay Area band. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 17 15:06:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA09666; Thu, 17 May 2001 15:00:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 15:00:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.200.129.67] Reply-To: jon.wagner@stanfordalumni.org From: "Jon Wagner" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping for guitar Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 18:58:49 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 May 2001 18:58:49.0674 (UTC) FILETIME=[687492A0:01C0DF03] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6945 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > At 4:31 PM -0400 5/16/01, Jeff Harmon wrote: > I hope someone can help me.....I would like to loop "snippets" of >guitar from my favorite CD's so that I can more easily hear the parts and >learn them...how can i do this?..thanks CTech makes aproduct called chop-shop. Never seen or tried it, but add it to the list. http://www.pocketrockit.com/products_cs.html Jon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 17 15:25:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA10240; Thu, 17 May 2001 15:21:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 15:21:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <014d01c0df06$5b303e20$6b44230a@mlameyer02> From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: References: Subject: Re: LOOP WANTED! (Re: about next "Looper's Delight J") Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 15:19:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: <4g4Nr.A.2fC.USCB7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6946 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sunao, I was moving apartments and had no way to stream the show. How did it go? Please let me know when we can download audio of it. I'm really excited to hear it! Thanks, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sunao Inami" To: Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 10:38 AM Subject: LOOP WANTED! (Re: about next "Looper's Delight J") > Hi Loopers, > > I made a Looper's Delight J info page. > http://www.cavestudio.com/LD_J/2001/ > > Please give your loop for our loopy live gig. > > > LOOP WANTED! > Our next Loopy live gig, > Looper's Delight J is 11th May 2001 at Kobe Japan. > > We are inviting suggestions for materials / textures for this live gig by > mp3 file. > > Looper's Delight J will live streaming by Real System for world wide, > You can listen your contributed loops or mixture some contributed loops by > Japanese loop artists. > > Contribute your Loops! > > We accept upload your loops via FTP. > > Please connect to : > > HOST > www.cavestudio.co.uk > > LOGIN > looper > > PASSWORD > heaven > > Note: > This account is upload/download only. > It can not delete files and make new folders. > > Requested to send in loops not later than 30th April 2001. > And after,this site will be download only. > > Looper's Delight J is affected a maling list Looper's Delight. > Our last Looper's Delight J reports is below. > http://www.cavestudio.com/LD_J > (sorry,music streaming is not available,still maintenance now..) > > Regards > > Sunao Inami > http://www.cavestudio.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 17 16:33:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA12654; Thu, 17 May 2001 16:27:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:27:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Don Goodeve To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: Repeater in San Rafael Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:26:52 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6947 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dear Folks As posted a few days ago - there will be a demo of Repeater at 'Bananas at Large' in San Rafael, CA this Saturday (19May). There are conflicting reports of the time, but I will be there with Repeater from 12 noon until whenever... The demos are slated to run before 12-2pm, so early arrival (12-1) is probably advisable. 1504 Fourth Street San Rafael, CA 94901-2713 Phone (415) 457-7600 - Fax (415) 457-9148 The software work on Repeater is entering its closing stages, and the unit demonstrated will be very close to final functionality. I will be happy to answer any questions you have on the day / on the list - but please no personal emails for now. Once the product is delivered it might be a different story - but there are few hours in the day left at present. As well as being demo guy on Saturday I am the head honcho on the software team - ie one of the guys that someone offered to buy pizza and coke for on the list a while back... Damon is reading over my shoulder... Ciao Don --- Don Goodeve dgoodeve@ivl.com Software Systems Design Engineer (aka. Creative Barrier Dispersal Specialist) Electrix/IVL Technologies Victoria, Canada From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 17 16:36:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA12923; Thu, 17 May 2001 16:34:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:34:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005801c0df10$86f13780$1aad1597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: References: Subject: Re: Repeater in San Rafael Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 22:32:41 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6948 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Don, I'm sure you'll have a GREAT TIME ! ! ! enjoy your saturday and keep us informed...it's happening!!! Best Italoop ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Goodeve" To: Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 10:26 PM Subject: Repeater in San Rafael > Dear Folks > > As posted a few days ago - there will be a demo of Repeater > at 'Bananas at Large' in San Rafael, CA this Saturday (19May). > There are conflicting reports of the time, but I will be there > with Repeater from 12 noon until whenever... The demos are > slated to run before 12-2pm, so early arrival (12-1) is probably > advisable. > > 1504 Fourth Street > San Rafael, CA 94901-2713 > Phone (415) 457-7600 - Fax (415) 457-9148 > > The software work on Repeater is entering its closing stages, > and the unit demonstrated will be very close to final functionality. > > I will be happy to answer any questions you have on the day / on > the list - but please no personal emails for now. Once the product > is delivered it might be a different story - but there are few hours > in the day left at present. As well as being demo guy on Saturday > I am the head honcho on the software team - ie one of the guys > that someone offered to buy pizza and coke for on the list a while > back... > > Damon is reading over my shoulder... > > Ciao > > Don > > > --- > Don Goodeve dgoodeve@ivl.com > Software Systems Design Engineer > (aka. Creative Barrier Dispersal Specialist) > Electrix/IVL Technologies > Victoria, Canada > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 17 16:52:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA13810; Thu, 17 May 2001 16:51:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 16:51:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <06A9F7A44D8BD411AE0E009027DE4F354638B6@mars.plantronics.com> From: "GRAY, Toby" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: DL-4 resetting Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:42:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6949 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com opps, a subject would be helpful... Trey Donovan asked about reseting a Line6 DL-4. Below is the text from their stomp box manual. Cheers, Toby -------------------------------------- Restoring Factory Presets The Stomp Box Modelers come pre-programmed with a set of great tones in their memories.The sounds that you save replace these factory settings.If you ever want to recall the factory sounds - and erase the sounds you might have saved - press the far left and far right switches while plugging in the left/mono guitar input. (When the left/mono input is not plugged in,the pedal is powered off.) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 17 17:52:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA16367; Thu, 17 May 2001 17:46:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 17:46:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [64.108.198.115] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New PC based loop/mixing tools Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 21:44:59 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 May 2001 21:45:00.0025 (UTC) FILETIME=[9F3F6690:01C0DF1A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6950 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Hey Back,

 I am a Dj, and I do Play one.... but I digress. I already know about the Mixman DM2, it was previewed at the NAMM in Florida this past March, and it is a "cute" piece of equipment. I have been on the fence about getting one, since it is very limited in the sound sources it can use as loops. This thing interfaces with the Mixman Software, and it uses Mixman .trk files as loops. That limits you in creativity, if you wanted to use your own loops. Now you can use your own loops, if you have ReCycle 1.7, which will convert your .wav files to .trk files, to be used in Mixman, but no one at Mixman ever tells you about that, and I wonder why ? Oh, it's being manufactured by Mattel, so go figure. It's not very durable, and kinda reminds me of Mattel's Sensonic Drums (man you really have to be old skool to remember those things). If you mix at home, it's cool, but on the road, in a gig, - Beware ! But I digress again.

I live in the Chicago area, and my occupation (I am a Computer Consultant), has me trapped here for a while, but if you wish I could trade, or preview some of my original loops ! I use everything from ACID 3.0, Fruity Loops 3, Sound Forge 5.0, ReCycle 1.7 and a slew of synth creators... so maybe we can talk ? I am experimenting with hooking up my MIDI keyboard to my PC, and using Cakewalk SONAR, to produce some original tracks.... are ya feeling me ? Just think MIDI loops, that can be incorporated in ACID 3.0 - that's a new feature... I would be UNSTOPPABLE !, but I digress.

I can feel that sway on that comment about "live musicians" and Dj's. It does become complicated, since the Dj feeds of the beat, whether he is scratching behind you, or underlying a beat. Musicians - doing it live, change tempo, keys at a whim, and those key and tempo changes can screw with a Dj's timing, making him look really bad. Just think of the JB's. James Brown changes keys, tempos and all kind of shidz in studio session, that would wipe out a Dj... well some Dj's that is.

Hey,
I'm not a DJ (don't even play on on TV) but if I were, this seems a
sweet little tool for looping:
http://www.mixman.com/html_h/dm2.html
Screw CDs. If you're in the digital domain, why not just deal with the
source file? Word.
Also, I've got a question: I'm interested in collaborating with a DJ.
Not one that just mixes tracks, but one that is much more about pulling
samples from a lot of different sources and making something new. My
job would be to supply guitar, synths and other wacky devices to the
mix. Anyway, every DJ I talk to seems to be against playing with real
musicians for some reason. I've heard things like, "when you bring a
musician into a show, it gets a lot more complicated." and "I like to
have full control of the music." The one DJ I've met that's played with
me IS a musician (classically trained double bass) but she more or less
just fades tracks into each other, adjusting pitch and tempo so they
blend nicely. I'm hoping for a lot more sound collage.
Any comments? If you're in the SF Bay area and would like to get
together, mail me off the list. I'm into a very wide range of music.
Mark

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 17 18:01:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA16718; Thu, 17 May 2001 17:57:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 17:57:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B044954.9772EE09@cabq.gov> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 15:57:40 -0600 From: Jason Fink X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Re: New PC based loop/mixing tools References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <1cp6KB.A.GDE.DlEB7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6951 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Devious D_MasterMixer wrote: > Mattel, so go figure. It's not very durable, and kinda reminds me of > Mattel's Sensonic Drums (man you really have to be old skool to > remember those things). my god, am I old school?!?! -jas http://www.zebox.com/artists/dimbulb.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 17 19:12:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA20138; Thu, 17 May 2001 19:03:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 19:03:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: XJ32@aol.com Message-ID: <80.b373210.2835b202@aol.com> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 19:00:18 EDT Subject: Filter Mod !!! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_80.b373210.2835b202_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10523 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6952 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_80.b373210.2835b202_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have no idea what folks were whining about a few weeks ago. I got mine yesterday and spent hours playing with it last night. The new Line 6 filter mod is awesome !!! - Paul --part1_80.b373210.2835b202_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have no idea what folks were whining about a few weeks ago.  I got mine
yesterday and spent hours playing with it last night. The new Line 6 filter
mod is awesome !!!
- Paul --part1_80.b373210.2835b202_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 17 20:29:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA22393; Thu, 17 May 2001 20:27:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 20:27:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: RA336@aol.com Message-ID: <3c.bde84ca.2835c5dd@aol.com> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 20:25:01 EDT Subject: playing w/ dj's To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 114 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6953 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Also, I've got a question: I'm interested in collaborating with a DJ. > Not one that just mixes tracks, but one that is much more about pulling > samples from a lot of different sources and making something new. My > job would be to supply guitar, synths and other wacky devices to the > mix. Anyway, every DJ I talk to seems to be against playing with real > musicians for some reason. - check out a sf-based group called Live Human. they were the support act on the west-coast leg of a tour I was on (I play with the Tom Tom Club) and they were truly amazing. line-up was double bass, trap set and turntables. really very truly integrated; creative as hell; and they rocked (and swung) like crazy. they have a couple cds out... word. best, robby aceto From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 17 20:39:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA22584; Thu, 17 May 2001 20:28:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 20:28:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B046CC8.A087EF63@cloud9.net> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 20:28:57 -0400 From: Mountain Man X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repeater in San Rafael References: <200105172036.QAA13179@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6954 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hmmmmmmm. Software work entering closing stages ...unit demonstrated close to final fuctionality. Has that "shipping in the fall, maybe" sound. Elby > Subject: Repeater in San Rafael > Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 13:26:52 -0700 > From: Don Goodeve > To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" > > > Dear Folks > > As posted a few days ago - there will be a demo of Repeater > at 'Bananas at Large' in San Rafael, CA this Saturday (19May). > There are conflicting reports of the time, but I will be there > with Repeater from 12 noon until whenever... The demos are > slated to run before 12-2pm, so early arrival (12-1) is probably > advisable. > > 1504 Fourth Street > San Rafael, CA 94901-2713 > Phone (415) 457-7600 - Fax (415) 457-9148 > > The software work on Repeater is entering its closing stages, > and the unit demonstrated will be very close to final functionality. > > I will be happy to answer any questions you have on the day / on > the list - but please no personal emails for now. Once the product > is delivered it might be a different story - but there are few hours > in the day left at present. As well as being demo guy on Saturday > I am the head honcho on the software team - ie one of the guys > that someone offered to buy pizza and coke for on the list a while > back... > > Damon is reading over my shoulder... > > Ciao > > Don > > > --- > Don Goodeve dgoodeve@ivl.com > Software Systems Design Engineer > (aka. Creative Barrier Dispersal Specialist) > Electrix/IVL Technologies > Victoria, Canada > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 17 21:07:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA24548; Thu, 17 May 2001 21:02:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 21:02:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 18:01:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Rik Elswit Message-Id: <200105180101.SAA18101@well.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repeater in San Rafael Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6955 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com As one of the Bananas, I'm stoked. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 17 21:38:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA25482; Thu, 17 May 2001 21:37:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 21:37:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [131.107.3.75] Reply-To: "Greg S" From: "Greg S" To: References: <200105172036.QAA13179@hemlock.violacea.com> <3B046CC8.A087EF63@cloud9.net> Subject: Re: Repeater in San Rafael Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 18:36:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2436.0001 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2436.0001 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2001 01:36:20.0666 (UTC) FILETIME=[F0C121A0:01C0DF3A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6956 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com For the sake of the list, I'd like to request that we not turn this thread into another ship-date gripe session. I think we heard it all last time. In the mean time, I'm looking forward to a review of the demo.... Thanks, Greg From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 17 23:51:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA29948; Thu, 17 May 2001 23:49:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 23:49:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [4.35.108.193] From: "Professor Vast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 20:48:38 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2001 03:48:38.0893 (UTC) FILETIME=[6C4E71D0:01C0DF4D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6957 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com this is very oddly cool. i was doing this sorta thing a couple years ago. worked with a dj who spun recs and his how drum beats and noise rec combos while i did guitar (my main instrument), synths/kbds, etc. db >From: RA336@aol.com >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: playing w/ dj's >Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 20:25:01 EDT > > > > > Also, I've got a question: I'm interested in collaborating with a DJ. > > Not one that just mixes tracks, but one that is much more about pulling > > samples from a lot of different sources and making something new. My > > job would be to supply guitar, synths and other wacky devices to the > > mix. Anyway, every DJ I talk to seems to be against playing with real > > musicians for some reason. > >- check out a sf-based group called Live Human. they were the support act >on >the west-coast leg of a tour I was on (I play with the Tom Tom Club) and >they >were truly amazing. >line-up was double bass, trap set and turntables. >really very truly integrated; creative as hell; and >they rocked (and swung) like crazy. they have a couple cds out... >word. >best, >robby aceto > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 01:46:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA01454; Fri, 18 May 2001 01:43:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 01:43:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001401c0df5d$f99de100$259a53cb@dave> From: "Toby" To: Subject: Digitech Fs 300 foot sw Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:47:04 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C0DFA1.05F45040" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6958 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C0DFA1.05F45040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable can anybody tell me if the 3 switches on a digitech fs300 footswitch are = latching or non latching Thanks Dave toby@southwest.com.au ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C0DFA1.05F45040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
can anybody tell me if the 3 switches = on a digitech=20 fs300 footswitch are  latching = or non=20 latching
 
Thanks Dave
toby@southwest.com.au
= ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C0DFA1.05F45040-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 02:00:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA03036; Fri, 18 May 2001 01:59:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 01:59:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: EDWINWHITE806@aol.com Message-ID: <50.15f0423d.28361400@aol.com> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 01:58:24 EDT Subject: Re: Digitech Fs 300 foot sw To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_50.15f0423d.28361400_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6959 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_50.15f0423d.28361400_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit non --part1_50.15f0423d.28361400_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit non --part1_50.15f0423d.28361400_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 02:17:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA03296; Fri, 18 May 2001 02:16:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 02:16:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 23:16:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: improv@peak.org (Dave Trenkel) Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6960 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >> Also, I've got a question: I'm interested in collaborating with a DJ. >> Not one that just mixes tracks, but one that is much more about pulling >> samples from a lot of different sources and making something new. My >> job would be to supply guitar, synths and other wacky devices to the >> mix. Anyway, every DJ I talk to seems to be against playing with real >> musicians for some reason. > I've noticed somthing similar. I've talked to some of the local DJ's who spin drum and bass, ambient, etc, stuff I like, and they're generally not into collaboration, for whatever reasons. But I have found a hip-hop DJ, who also happens to be a great drummer, who's really into creating new stuff. He uses the "standard" hip-hop sources, but does some very cool stuff with it. We did a show recently that felt great, I'm going to mp3 it and put it on my website when I get a free minute... ____________________________________________ Dave Trenkel : improv@peak.org New & Improv Media http://www.newandimprov.com Now available: Admiral Twinkle Devil: Wabi Dub ____________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 04:10:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA06689; Fri, 18 May 2001 04:06:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 04:06:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "matt davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 01:04:19 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2001 08:04:19.0949 (UTC) FILETIME=[2449D1D0:01C0DF71] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6961 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Also, I've got a question: I'm interested in collaborating with a DJ. >Not one that just mixes tracks, but one that is much more about pulling >samples from a lot of different sources and making something new. My >job would be to supply guitar, synths and other wacky devices to the >mix. Anyway, every DJ I talk to seems to be against playing with real >musicians for some reason. I should say that the kind of DJ you're looking for is VERY RARE. About 90% of original DJ's I've seen simply playback pre-recorded loops that are already in perfect sync, and they might do some scratching over it. Most of these already have as many tracks/instrument sounds as they need. DJ's that make their music more or less from scratch are a lot harder to come by. You'd have about the same amount of luck if you were looking for an electronic accordian player. My advice would be to continue to keep your eyes open, but to also teach yourself the DJ skills that you would like to use in your project. If you're the DJ, you'll have a lot less trouble finding a guitarist. They're everywhere! Matt Davignon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 04:16:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA06824; Fri, 18 May 2001 04:10:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 04:10:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001e01c0df72$8a6f7540$259a53cb@dave> From: "Toby" To: References: <50.15f0423d.28361400@aol.com> Subject: Re: Digitech Fs 300 foot sw Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 16:14:18 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C0DFB5.97555340" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6962 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C0DFB5.97555340 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Edwin All switches are non latching=20 switches had collapsed to Bigga foot Dave toby@southwest.com.au ----- Original Message -----=20 From: EDWINWHITE806@aol.com=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: Re: Digitech Fs 300 foot sw non=20 ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C0DFB5.97555340 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Edwin
All switches are non latching =
switches had collapsed to Bigga = foot
 
Dave
toby@southwest.com.au
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From:=20 EDWINWHITE806@aol.com
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Subject: Re: Digitech Fs 300 = foot=20 sw

non=20 ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C0DFB5.97555340-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 05:38:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA08599; Fri, 18 May 2001 05:32:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 05:32:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003801c0df7d$6f0cf4c0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:32:17 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6963 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I encountered the edge of this after getting to the UK. At first I thought on the level of "Show producers etc. must think that, because their sounds are all samples and disks, the reliability factor is predictable, and must therefore appeal to them in a bizarre 'accountant' kind of way." I've also been interested in collaboration with a DJ, but have encountered nothing but dead air in response, and in one case was bumped from a line-up in favor of a DJ. In the UK the DJs RULE the rave/party scene. I wondered at first whether this wasn't a "mafia effect" of some kind, actually. Over time though I've begun to wonder whether it's the aspect of being center stage with no company there that's the most important factor. Don't take this wrong, spinners, let me explain. Those of us that play INSTRUMENTS typically can do so solo, I know *I* do - but in lots of cases as we "grew up" into our playing, there were tons of instances of playing music WITH others. I came to think of collaborative performance as not only positive energy shared, a great way to learn more about my own playing, and a great way to learn how to play with others. If one is a DJ does any of the above ever occur as a consequence of either learning how to DJ or just watching others do their work, undoubtedly it further embeds the idea of such totally solo work. I find this highly unfortunate, not just because I'm kept out of such scenarios, and not just because there may be an entire listening group that never hears live playing, but rather DJ-borne samples/etc - but also because this is a direction in which DJing could actually branch out or expand past its apparently finite boundaries. This last is to me part of playing music, this kind of extending past the norm. Is this lost then? Or has it been translated into "What new gear/tech/box can I get?" And is this a good thing? I shudder to think of it. Stephen Goodman * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * 200th Loop Of The Week Contest ends May 19! * "Hitchhiker's Lament premieres TONIGHT!" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 07:21:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA11448; Fri, 18 May 2001 07:16:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:16:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002501c0df8b$4ac5d060$66effea9@oemcomputer> From: "become_1" To: References: <50.15f0423d.28361400@aol.com> <001e01c0df72$8a6f7540$259a53cb@dave> Subject: Yamaha MFC 10 questions Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:11:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0DF69.C276CE60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2001 11:15:16.0396 (UTC) FILETIME=[D0DCE6C0:01C0DF8B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6964 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0DF69.C276CE60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've been trying out the MFC10 foot pedal and have a question and a = problem for those of you using it. 1. Can you program it to send both a CC and a program change with one = button push? At the moment, to change programs on my FX unit I first = switch the MFC10 to function mode, then press a switch to send a CC for = bank change, then switch back to Program mode and push another switch = for the actual program. Seems like a lot for one change! I know it has = a mix mode, but that has a limited number of function buttons available. = =20 2. Once I'm in a bank I can use switches 1-9 for program changes (0 = always has the same effect as 1)--that gives me 9 possibilities, but the = FX unit goes from 0-9, so there's one program I can't seem to = access--what can I do?? Sorry if this is basic stuff; midi is new territory for me. Thanks. Bruce Comens ------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0DF69.C276CE60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've been trying out the MFC10 foot = pedal and have=20 a question and a problem for those of you using it.
 
1.  Can you program it to send = both a CC and a=20 program change with one button push?  At the moment, to change = programs on=20 my FX unit I first switch the MFC10 to function mode, then press a = switch to=20 send a CC for bank change, then switch back to Program mode and push = another=20 switch for the actual program.  Seems like a lot for one = change!  I=20 know it has a mix mode, but that has a limited number of function = buttons=20 available. 
 
2.  Once I'm in a bank I can use = switches 1-9=20 for program changes (0 always has the same effect as 1)--that gives me 9 = possibilities, but the FX unit goes from 0-9, so there's one program I = can't=20 seem to access--what can I do??
 
Sorry if this is basic stuff; midi is = new territory=20 for me.
 
Thanks.
Bruce Comens
------=_NextPart_000_0022_01C0DF69.C276CE60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 07:23:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA11489; Fri, 18 May 2001 07:20:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:20:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <836AEDC9D836D211B4720001FA7EC2D202A7944B@ntemail1-tr.ius.indiana.edu> From: "LEE, THANIEL I" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: longdistance working relationship Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:20:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6965 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com is there anyone out there that would be interested in working with me on a project. well just email eachother files back and forth. anyone use a tracker, thats the program i use, it keeps the files small and in one file/folder -thaniel From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 07:48:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA11811; Fri, 18 May 2001 07:44:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:44:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B050A89.7059135D@bellsouth.net> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:42:01 -0400 From: "Jeff Duke (echo17)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: contacting Boomerang Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6966 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Does anyone know of an alternate way to contact Boomerang? I need the upgrade and have written an email a week for 2 months to Mike Nelson mnelson@dmans.com and have not gotten any response. thanks, Jeff Duke From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 07:52:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA11981; Fri, 18 May 2001 07:51:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 07:51:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Subject: Lexicon Delta-T Model 102 S Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:51:16 +0200 Message-ID: <000501c0df90$d90ce700$0301a8c0@SATAN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010430070940.02da36e0@tyranny.egregious.net> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6967 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi there, anyone knows the Lexicon Delta-T Delay System Model 102 S? What does it do? What is it worth? Thanks, Rainer Rainer Straschill Moinlabs GFX and Soundworks - www.moinlabs.de digital penis expert group - www.dpeg.de The MoinSound Archives - www.mp3.com/moinlabs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 10:25:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA17332; Fri, 18 May 2001 10:21:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:21:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B0530D1.ABE28054@chello.nl> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 16:25:21 +0200 From: mango X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-CN,eu,ca,ko,ja,no,ru,uk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: sampling diy, looppoints. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6968 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Maybe this is not the right place to ask, but how to you set loop points on a sample ? i want to set the susaining part / sustain looppoint on a sample. I want to sample a few sounds from a synthesizer i am having on loan. (multisamples). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 13:20:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23549; Fri, 18 May 2001 13:15:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:15:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:15:28 -0400 Subject: Re: NYC Gigspam From: Steve Sandberg To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200105181425.KAA17411@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3073036528_1339885_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6969 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3073036528_1339885_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I'll be doing a solo show at the Knitting Factory Old Office Tuesday May 22 at 8PM. It's called "Chants, Songs and Musical Landscapes" and is kind of a journey into sexuality and spirituality. My instruments are: voice, wind synth (Yamaha VL70), percussion and an EDP. I'm combining improvised pieces with original songs and chants. Would be great to see fellow loopers there! ($7 plus one drink -- 74 Leonard Street) --MS_Mac_OE_3073036528_1339885_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: NYC Gigspam I'll be doing a solo show at the Knitting Factory Old Office= Tuesday May 22 at 8PM.
It's called "Chants, Songs and Musical Landscapes" and is kind of= a journey into sexuality and spirituality.  My instruments are: voice,= wind synth (Yamaha VL70), percussion and an EDP.
I'm combining improvised pieces with original songs and chants.   = ;Would be great to see fellow loopers there!
($7 plus one drink -- 74 Leonard Street) --MS_Mac_OE_3073036528_1339885_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 13:26:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23625; Fri, 18 May 2001 13:19:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:19:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B054AA4.B8DF26F1@sigecom.net> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 12:15:32 -0400 From: Scott Winzinger X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: repeater Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6970 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com If the release date was still on for June ( 2 weeks away), wouldn't we have heard an exact date by now? Zing From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 13:36:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA24000; Fri, 18 May 2001 13:30:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:30:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3B054AA4.B8DF26F1@sigecom.net> References: <3B054AA4.B8DF26F1@sigecom.net> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:23:04 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: repeater Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6971 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ok, ok...it's coming. doesnt' the fact that they are demo'ing it at a commercial store tell you that it's close? Even back in January, the damn thing worked...to an extent. It's just that they wanted it to work flawlessly and very intuitively...much like ALL of their other products. geez...chill. are you on the waiting list? has your credit card been charged yet? have your other looping tools suddenly stopped working? have you ever been late before? rich >If the release date was still on for June ( 2 weeks away), wouldn't we >have heard an exact date by now? > >Zing From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 14:03:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA24705; Fri, 18 May 2001 13:58:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:58:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00b301c0dfc4$c58e5f40$d482e3a5@looppool> From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: References: <200105181425.KAA17410@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: re: playing with a live DJ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:02:58 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6972 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com That's funny, I've had the opposite experience of everyone so far. I had a wonderful time interacting with DJ Vordo (of the Abstrakt Zone fame) when I was playing with Haunted By Waters and this weekend, I will be doing an interactive set (with looping) with World Music/Electronica DJ, Leslie Shill. It's fun when you get with a DJ who is very musical in their approach. Several years ago, my world fusion act, Worlds Collide played in Japan and we interacted with a few DJs at an Osakan high tech nightclub (with the LemonHeads playing upstairs, simultaneously). It was a blast. Yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 14:36:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA26738; Fri, 18 May 2001 14:33:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:33:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B056AA3.81940E6@zerocrossing.net> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:32:01 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: sine@zerocrossing.net Organization: ZeroCrossing Multimedia Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's References: <003801c0df7d$6f0cf4c0$0201a8c0@stephen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6973 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I too have been bumped from a line up in favor of a DJ. Wasn't even told until I asked about the line up schedule. "Uh, we weren't sure you were going to play, so we asked someone else." Funny thing is I'm in contact with the person who was throwing the event on a daily basis. Odd. I also agree with Steven Goodman's idea that as a musician, part of the culture is you almost immediately (often before you know how to play!) find other people to play with and start a band. No question, it's what you do. Real time affordable loop technology is really pretty new, but maybe this will affect musician's as well. There is no doubt that I can do an entire show by myself, I've done it many times. My Roland MC-307 groovebox, GR-30 guitar synth and a JamMan let's me make PLENTY of noise! I seek other musicians and/or DJs because I crave the dimension that only real time collaboration gives. Marklar From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 15:11:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28414; Fri, 18 May 2001 15:09:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:09:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:07:28 EDT Subject: Re: repeater To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <106.f0c2a.2836ccf0@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6974 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com << ok, ok...it's coming. doesnt' the fact that they are demo'ing it at a commercial store tell you that it's close? Even back in January, the damn thing worked...to an extent. It's just that they wanted it to work flawlessly and very intuitively...much like ALL of their other products. geez...chill. are you on the waiting list? has your credit card been charged yet? have your other looping tools suddenly stopped working? have you ever been late before? rich >> My, we're awful defensive. Hehehe. Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 15:13:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28465; Fri, 18 May 2001 15:10:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:10:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:09:26 EDT Subject: Re: repeater To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <73.dc84428.2836cd66@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6975 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Actually, know what's really gonna be funny? When the Repeater is released and people start having problems with it like most complex products. The bitching will be most amusing, if history holds true to course. Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 15:17:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28696; Fri, 18 May 2001 15:14:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:14:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.112.147] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: GLOBAL@cruzio.com Subject: Re: ACID 3.0 problems? Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 19:13:36 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2001 19:13:36.0804 (UTC) FILETIME=[A3A39E40:01C0DFCE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6976 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Oh my....,

I must say, I have NEVER encountered any of the problems you mentioned, with ACID 3.0 (even when I was a BETA Tester, 80 Builds ago). So I must ask you a few questions about your computing environment :

1. What is your processor and speed (I hope you don't say a 333Mhz Cyrix). Cyrix "anything" used in the DirextX world just won't go, especially if you are using DirectX 8a (make sure you have downloaded DirectX 8a withthe new Video Codecs). Cyrix is nortorious with not being able to handle Direct Sound, a Codec of DirectX.

Now I hope you are using a Pentium Class or AMD type processor, running at LEAST 400 Mhz (which is the minimum requirements, or optimal requirements for ACID 3.0).

Now, your older music programs crashed under Directx 8 ? Now I must admit I do use a lot of Music programs, and the oldest Music app I use is Cool Edit Pro 1.2a (now, unless you have some cracked version of your software, it might be wise to check for upgrades... if you bought the apps, most companies offer upgrades, and patches for FREE, if it is a WAREZ app.... sorry brother man, but you will be S.O.L.). I have had no adverse affects of installing Directx 8, in fact my apps are running like a senior citizen on prune juice... but I digress.

Now I run my apps on this configuration -

1. Athlon 1 Ghz processor on an ASUS A7V board with 256 Megs of RAM (pc133), 2 20 gig HDD's, 1 Voodoo 3 AGP video card,with a Fortissimo Sound card with Aex compression (this is a standard game soundcard, like the soundblaster live, but it interfaces nicely with my Dj Gear.).All running under Windows ME. (what is your operating system... Win95, or even Win98 has some problems with Direct X 8... so check into that.(Win98 SE is a bit more stabler with Direct X 8a).

     

----Original Message Follows----
From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)"
To: "Devious D_MasterMixer"
Subject: Re: ACID 3.0 problems?
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:07:13 -0700
Boy, Devious D.,
I had the worst experience with Acid 3.0. and the forced install of DirectX 8 started crashing all of my older music programs. I finally had to
remove it. Is your Acid stable (not the drug, silly!)? Do you have fairly recent versions of all of your software?
I couldn't get my Waves plugins to work (and I rely on their excellent mastering, compression and equalization tools).
What's your experience been like, if you don't mind me asking.
yours, Rick (loop.pool)
----- Original Message -----
From: Devious D_MasterMixer
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: New PC based loop/mixing tools
Hey Back,
I am a Dj, and I do Play one.... but I digress. I already know about the Mixman DM2, it was previewed at the NAMM in Florida this past March, and it is a "cute" piece of equipment. I have been on the fence about getting one, since it is very limited in the sound sources it can use as loops. This thing interfaces with the Mixman Software, and it uses Mixman .trk files as loops. That limits you in creativity, if you wanted to use your own loops. Now you can use your own loops, if you have ReCycle 1.7, which will convert your .wav files to .trk files, to be used in Mixman, but no one at Mixman ever tells you about that, and I wonder why ? Oh, it's being manufactured by Mattel, so go figure. It's not very durable, and kinda reminds me of Mattel's Sensonic Drums (man you really have to be old skool to remember those things). If you mix at home, it's cool, but on the road, in a gig, - Beware ! But I digress again.
I live in the Chicago area, and my occupation (I am a Computer Consultant), has me trapped here for a while, but if you wish I could trade, or preview some of my original loops ! I use everything from ACID 3.0, Fruity Loops 3, Sound Forge 5.0, ReCycle 1.7 and a slew of synth creators... so maybe we can talk ? I am experimenting with hooking up my MIDI keyboard to my PC, and using Cakewalk SONAR, to produce some original tracks.... are ya feeling me ? Just think MIDI loops, that can be incorporated in ACID 3.0 - that's a new feature... I would be UNSTOPPABLE !, but I digress.
I can feel that sway on that comment about "live musicians" and Dj's. It does become complicated, since the Dj feeds of the beat, whether he is scratching behind you, or underlying a beat. Musicians - doing it live, change tempo, keys at a whim, and those key and tempo changes can screw with a Dj's timing, making him look really bad. Just think of the JB's. James Brown changes keys, tempos and all kind of shidz in studio session, that would wipe out a Dj... well some Dj's that is.
Hey,
I'm not a DJ (don't even play on on TV) but if I were, this seems a
sweet little tool for looping:
http://www.mixman.com/html_h/dm2.html
Screw CDs. If you're in the digital domain, why not just deal with the
source file? Word.
Also, I've got a question: I'm interested in collaborating with a DJ.
Not one that just mixes tracks, but one that is much more about pulling
samples from a lot of different sources and making something new. My
job would be to supply guitar, synths and other wacky devices to the
mix. Anyway, every DJ I talk to seems to be against playing with real
musicians for some reason. I've heard things like, "when you bring a
musician into a show, it gets a lot more complicated." and "I like to
have full control of the music." The one DJ I've met that's played with
me IS a musician (classically trained double bass) but she more or less
just fades tracks into each other, adjusting pitch and tempo so they
blend nicely. I'm hoping for a lot more sound collage.
Any comments? If you're in the SF Bay area and would like to get
together, mail me off the list. I'm into a very wide range of music.
Mark
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 15:25:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28914; Fri, 18 May 2001 15:23:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:23:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB262@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: repeater Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:20:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0DFCF.A6291B30" Resent-Message-ID: <4PmreD.A.UDH.rZXB7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6977 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0DFCF.A6291B30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" please . . . stop . . . -----Original Message----- From: PaulPokr@aol.com [mailto:PaulPokr@aol.com] Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 12:07 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: repeater << ok, ok...it's coming. doesnt' the fact that they are demo'ing it at a commercial store tell you that it's close? Even back in January, the damn thing worked...to an extent. It's just that they wanted it to work flawlessly and very intuitively...much like ALL of their other products. geez...chill. are you on the waiting list? has your credit card been charged yet? have your other looping tools suddenly stopped working? have you ever been late before? rich >> My, we're awful defensive. Hehehe. Paul ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0DFCF.A6291B30 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: repeater

please . . . stop . . .

-----Original Message-----
From: PaulPokr@aol.com [mailto:PaulPokr@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 12:07 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: repeater


<< ok, ok...it's coming.  doesnt' the fact = that they are demo'ing it at a commercial store tell you that it's = close?  Even back in January, the damn thing worked...to an = extent.  It's just that they wanted it to work flawlessly and very = intuitively...much like ALL of their other products.

geez...chill.  are you on the waiting = list?  has your credit card been charged yet?  have your = other looping tools suddenly stopped working?  have you ever been = late before?

rich >>

My, we're awful defensive. Hehehe.

Paul

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0DFCF.A6291B30-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 15:35:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29287; Fri, 18 May 2001 15:33:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:33:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <73.dc84428.2836cd66@aol.com> References: <73.dc84428.2836cd66@aol.com> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 12:25:01 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: repeater Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <3Lyg1B.A.KJH.IjXB7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6978 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Actually, know what's really gonna be funny? When the Repeater is >released and people start having problems with it like most complex >products. The bitching will be most amusing, if history holds true >to course. > >Paul paul...how true...and probably the basis for my defensiveness! i was fortunate enough to try out the 'pre' repeater at the LA namm show. it was, and is, an awesome leap forward in real time looping. however, the interface (software) needs to be seamless and dead-nuts on, or people just aren't going to use it. these were the sentiments Damon and I discussed at the show, and was the reason the Repeater was delayed. as much as i want one of these machines...and i'll probably get one. (hmmmm...christmas present? i can hear my wife groan already), i will wait until they are well out on the shelves and i get a chance to actually TRY IT OUT in real life. $600 bucks is alot of money, is it not? And i'm sure the majority of LD people ARE NOT on the waiting list...thus, my bitchy attitude about the complaints regarding the Repeater's late arrival. For all of the wonderful knowledge, music, philosophy, tech geekdom and self control this list contains (maybe minus my hot air?), i am amazed at the threads regarding the Repeater. We often come across like a bunch of spoiled brats who have been denied their sugar fix... best, rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 15:52:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29642; Fri, 18 May 2001 15:49:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:49:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002a01c0dfd3$313dc880$a2a91597@m7w1f4> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: References: <200105181425.KAA17410@hemlock.violacea.com> <00b301c0dfc4$c58e5f40$d482e3a5@looppool> Subject: Re: playing with a live DJ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 21:46:10 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6979 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dunno, maybe me and Rick Walker have been lucky. I'm working with a pair of Djs since 1998, and I have never had that problems. The great thing is that sometimes we meet at the house of one of us just to improvise. And we don't improvise on some loops or beats they take with themselves. As one of them is a classically trained violin player and I play guitar and keys we like to be the most open-minded we can. Sometimes I start with my EDP, than start looping something else in parallel on an akai Headrush, and so on (even two seconds realtime loops on my Korg A1), and as everything gets through my mixer we like to try to get as many loops together on parallel devices. And the two Djs interact with loops, create new ones. I found being in this group just as inspiring as being in my last rock project (guitar, bass, drums and vocals). And we get pretty well on live situations. I think it is only a matter of being open-minded. Strangely I had more problems with drummers than with Djs. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 8:02 PM Subject: re: playing with a live DJ > That's funny, I've had the opposite experience of everyone so far. I had > a wonderful time interacting with DJ Vordo (of the Abstrakt Zone fame) when > I was playing with Haunted By Waters and this weekend, I will be doing an > interactive set (with looping) with > World Music/Electronica DJ, Leslie Shill. It's fun when you get with a DJ > who is very musical in their approach. > > Several years ago, my world fusion act, Worlds Collide played in Japan and > we interacted with a few DJs at an Osakan high tech > nightclub (with the LemonHeads playing upstairs, simultaneously). It was a > blast. > > Yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 16:49:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA31765; Fri, 18 May 2001 16:46:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 16:46:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:43:09 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Subject: Re: repeater Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id QAA31711 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6980 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >>> PaulPokr@aol.com 05/18/01 12:09PM >>> > Actually, know what's really gonna be funny? When the Repeater is released and people start having problems with it like most complex products. The bitching will be most amusing, if history holds true to course. And that will smoke out the people that aren't willing to deal with the real nuts and bolts of making technology work for them... (we'll get to hear them bitching though...) It's NEVER seamless... one solution... two more problems... devise new workarounds... add mixers for the loopers... try to automate cumbersome routines... strip it all back down for simplicity... find out THAT's not quite enough... build it back up with newer solutions... It's all compromises folks. Determination and persistence is the real answer. Keep at it... -Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 17:17:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00858; Fri, 18 May 2001 17:14:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 17:14:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB262@migarexch01.maritz.com> References: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB262@migarexch01.maritz.com> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:39:26 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: feedback loops (was RE: repeater) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6981 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >please . . . stop . . . just mentioning the repeater becomes a feedback loop as everyone speaks at once! At 3:09 PM -0400 5/18/01, PaulPokr@aol.com wrote: >Actually, know what's really gonna be funny? When the Repeater is >released and people start having problems with it like most complex >products. The bitching will be most amusing, if history holds true >to course. No! It cannot be! The Repeater will be flawless, flawless I tell you! And I know, deep in my heart, that I'll never need another piece of gear ever again once I have a Repeater. Or perhaps two Repeaters. Or perhaps three. /t ...electronic a cappella madness ......... ...extreme internet radio ... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 17:28:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA01072; Fri, 18 May 2001 17:25:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 17:25:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:24:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Rik Elswit Message-Id: <200105182124.OAA09576@well.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: repeater Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6982 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com They'll be here tomorrow. Trust me. I'll ask them >If the release date was still on for June ( 2 weeks away), wouldn't we >have heard an exact date by now? > >Zing From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 18:55:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA03502; Fri, 18 May 2001 18:47:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 18:47:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [204.253.195.194] From: "matt davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing with a live DJ Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:46:14 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 May 2001 22:46:15.0201 (UTC) FILETIME=[583C8110:01C0DFEC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6983 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >From: "Luigi Meloni" >I'm working with a pair of >Djs since 1998, and I have never had that problems. The great thing is that >sometimes we meet at the house of one of us just to improvise. And we don't >improvise on some loops or beats they take with themselves. .... >I think it is only a matter of being open-minded. >Strangely I had more problems with drummers than with Djs. I do completely improvised stuff with media sources. I guess I could be called a DJ these days. (I do jockey discs, but my equipment is a far cry from the standard DJ table.) I'm personally very happy to play with others in an occasional, improvisational setting. I'm not very interested in becoming a regular member of a "band" though. The reasons are: -I have way too many projects and ideas to fulfill (including non-Dj-esque ones) to commit to spending a large amount of time doing the same thing with the same musicians. -Patters I've noticed with local musicians (LD'ers who I've met are much better than these guys) : Guitarists (not often willing to let other instruments occasionally be the "lead" instrument), Drummers (always want to be loud and rockin' - don't seem to have an appreciation for dynamics or quieter moments), Singers (want to be the centerpiece of a band), and other DJ's (often want the rest of the band to just 'play along' with their pre-recorded techno grooves). -I'm kind of a control freak when it comes to actual songs. -I'm not crazy about the idea of "Play this progression of notes 4 times, then this progression 8 times, then play the chorus." -I simply haven't met the right musicians yet. It would be really nice to meet some musicians who play instruments outside of the standard guitar/bass/drums/keys, or who would be interested in trying really adventurous things (like trading instruments with other musicians in mid-set). Sure, sure I know. I'm being nitpicky. I guess I'm kind of stuck between musical phenomenae. On one hand, I'm not particularly interested in rock and roll or dance music. On the other hand, I really don't identify too much with the academic "new music" community. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 20:03:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA06728; Fri, 18 May 2001 20:01:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 20:01:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 19:59:28 EDT Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6984 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i've only played w/2 dj's, live, and thoroughly enjoyed both experiences. (the second of those experiences was a 6-week tour, btw.) i found that both of these dj's were creative, attentive, spontaneous, interactive, 'team-playing' etc etc..... and inspiring. also: spgoodman@earthlight.net writes: >Is this lost then? Or has it been >translated into "What new gear/tech/box can I get?" And is this a good >thing? I shudder to think of it. for a little self-reflection, please see the 'repeater' (or: boomerang / EDP / Kyma / jamman / Line6 et al) thread(s), amongst this group's missives: no judgement intended. *-) best, dt / splattercell From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 20:04:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA06769; Fri, 18 May 2001 20:03:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 20:03:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <7e.151e3e98.283711f0@aol.com> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 20:01:52 EDT Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <3pjBO.A.ipB.SgbB7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6985 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com RA336@aol.com writes: >word. deed. dude, daoud From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 20:08:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA06972; Fri, 18 May 2001 20:07:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 20:07:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 17:04:12 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Subject: Re: playing with a live DJ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id UAA06946 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6986 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Matt Davignon wrote... > I do completely improvised stuff with media sources. I guess I could be called a DJ these days. (I do jockey discs, but my equipment is a far cry from the standard DJ table.) I'm personally very happy to play with others in an occasional, improvisational setting. I'm not very interested in becoming a regular member of a "band" though. The reasons are: One big reason is that you're uslally stuck with ONE terrible band name... I played a couple weeks back with a very young dj... it was two guitarists, keys and him spinning... I just took his signal into my mixer (and messed with it a bit with my sound tweakers as well... I could see reversing the arrangement and having him mix us dj style). First it was a good learning experience for all of us. Second: the dj seemed really stoked and was excited about expanding his vinyl library in search of more 'appropriate' sounds... (whatever that may be). I'd wager that revisiting this grouping (or a smaller one) from time to time would produce some great music. (So I guess I better email him!) > -I have way too many projects and ideas to fulfill (including non-Dj-esque ones) to commit to spending a large amount of time doing the same thing with the same musicians. This is how it's working for me as well... If I want any chance of realizing some of my personal esthetic, I need some isolation and time to work on it. At the same time I try to play with a variety of people in rotation so I'm getting new perspectives as well and avoiding that plateaued feeling. > -Patterns I've noticed with local musicians (LD'ers who I've met are much better than these guys) : Guitarists (not often willing to let other instruments occasionally be the "lead" instrument), Drummers (always want to be loud and rockin' - don't seem to have an appreciation for dynamics or quieter moments), Singers (want to be the centerpiece of a band), and other DJ's (often want the rest of the band to just 'play along' with their pre-recorded techno grooves). You get the same problem with a big group of loopers though as well. The stereotypical thing being overly dense and repetitive. It takes a lot of discipline to interact in a groupthink-balanced way and inject variety into the landscape. It's nice to cover a broad dynamic spectrum as well... More discipline. Just relaxing and actually taking a break to listen and enjoy the other players seems lost at times. (Myself included here.) DISCIPLINE... > -I'm kind of a control freak when it comes to actual songs. Yep... why have other people screw them up when you can screw it up better yourself! 8-) > -I'm not crazy about the idea of "Play this progression of notes 4 times, then this progression 8 times, then play the chorus." A problem for me as well... I like goal oriented situations like pit orchestra/theater stuff, or upcoming sessions where you learn something quickly, get a vibe, do the show, and it's over baby! No ongoing band-like misery requiring constant baby-sitting to keep things moving forward. > -I simply haven't met the right musicians yet. It would be really nice to meet some musicians who play instruments outside of the standard guitar/bass/drums/keys, or who would be interested in trying really adventurous things (like trading instruments with other musicians in mid-set). A good rule for trading instruments is having the throw-and-catch them... A sure crowd pleaser! I'm a little more stuck in my guitar playing persona, but striving to be a good listener. > Sure, sure I know. I'm being nitpicky. I guess I'm kind of stuck between musical phenomenae. On one hand, I'm not particularly interested in rock and roll or dance music. On the other hand, I really don't identify too much with the academic "new music" community. This has been a concern for me as well... I think there's this huge gap between noisemaker rock types, and the more jazz and classical influenced academics. Seems such a shame to have that polarity... Good food for thought! Have a good weekend all... -Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 18 20:42:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA07642; Fri, 18 May 2001 20:41:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 20:41:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002501c0dffb$d3e59e00$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: "EarthLight NewsLetter" Subject: "Hitchhiker's Lament" at EarthLight Studios Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 01:36:00 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C0E004.0F08CD60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6987 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C0E004.0F08CD60 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_001C_01C0E004.0F08CD60" ------=_NextPart_001_001C_01C0E004.0F08CD60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Friends, In dedication to Douglas Adams, I've posted "Hitchhiker's Lament", a = 10:39 piece in MP3, Windows Media, and Real Audio, at my EarthLight = Studios site for your pondering if not also meditation on someone who = changed the way we think of so many things. =20 Stephen Goodman * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios=20 * 200th Loop Of The Week Contest ends May 19! ------=_NextPart_001_001C_01C0E004.0F08CD60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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For example, using a single pair of, say, Alesis M1's between an Aardvark Direct Pro and a Tascam 788. The Aardvark has 1/4 inch and RCA monitor outputs. The Tascam 788 has RCA monitor outs. I have a speaker switch (a Niles, I believe) that has wire only connects. It's purpose is for stereo systems, primarily. Hence, I wouldn't want to use it for monitoring because of potential noise, etc. I saw a Samson amplifier/speaker selector in a local music store but couldn't see behind the unit. Anyone using a speaker selector rig? ======= Hi Paul, I have two versions of Radio Shack's tape loop box. No, not THAT kind of loop you sillies! It is designed to connect to your receiver's tape loop (tape ins and outs) and allows you to have three instead of one tape deck connected to your stereo. It allows dubbing between any of the three decks, too. This would be ideal for your purpose. Unfortunately, the shits at Radio Shack have long since discontinued this handy little device. I guess not enough people are like me and want to connect a DAT, a Cassette, a minidisc, and two VCRs to their stereo tape loop. Go figure! Bill billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html ============================================================================ Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, send email to: emusic-wdiy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 19 04:09:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA22106; Sat, 19 May 2001 04:06:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 04:06:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 10:03:38 +0200 Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <1511kf-2HMEm8C@fwd05.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id EAA22080 Resent-Message-ID: <36MKuD.A.QZF.aliB7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6989 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Working witha DJ in a Livesituation is an interesting option,but needs a lot of discipline and interaction of both.Such a kind of a "band" needs another language of contextual "bandwork". I myself can not trust the rules and methods,wich I use in a "normal" band.This will not work very well.The DJ for himself also has to be open for new influences and methods,wich are not part of his usual work,where he has total control. As it is not easy to find a DJ for such a project,I know the worth of my partner. We know us for long time and he was a guitarist,before he changed the "camp" to be a DJ only. A instrument trained/understanding DJ is maybe the one we need for such projects.It will run at least all more smoothly and musically. I use my guitar like normal and with synths.The signals can be routed in realtime to several looping and FX-devices.From a Mixing Console I decide in realtime,wich signals the DJ will get from my gear.With this material the DJ himself can arrange or manipulate the material-mostly loop sources- through his gear.He himself offers me also some signals,wich I can use to tranform them. Well,that´s a very complex Setup and we use it in Live improvisation.That works now very fine and this project has found its own interaction voice,method and rules in innerband context. We are planning to add a drummer to this project.Of course with V-drum because the signals can also be used in a network then. I guess,both camps are still afraid about the other camp.Maybe the DJ will think about guitarists in the typical prejudicated way.The same otherwise. At least,after a lot of practice and rehearsals,where we stick our claims,such a "band" will work also smoothly like a normal "band". And at least,also "traditionals" can be realized via such a project. I made a good experience with such a network.It brings fresh new ideas to my musical thinking and hey, it makes a lot of fun. I only can recommend to try it out,eventhough it is not easy to find a DJ who is willing for such a project.It means for him,to give a part of total control to other hands.But it is it worth. Marty ---------- >Von: Hedewa7@aol.com >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Betreff: Re: playing w/ dj's >Datum: Sam, 19. Mai 2001 1:59 Uhr > >i've only played w/2 dj's, live, and thoroughly enjoyed both experiences. >(the second of those experiences was a 6-week tour, btw.) >i found that both of these dj's were creative, attentive, spontaneous, >interactive, 'team-playing' etc etc..... and inspiring. > >also: >spgoodman@earthlight.net writes: >>Is this lost then? Or has it been >>translated into "What new gear/tech/box can I get?" And is this a good >>thing? I shudder to think of it. > >for a little self-reflection, please see the 'repeater' (or: boomerang / EDP >/ Kyma / jamman / Line6 et al) thread(s), amongst this group's missives: >no judgement intended. >*-) > >best, >dt / splattercell > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 19 04:43:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA22603; Sat, 19 May 2001 04:42:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 04:42:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006301c0e041$2c251e20$6658c180@u3d4c4> From: "Greg Harris" To: Subject: multi effects units with samplers Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 01:53:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0060_01C0E006.7EFCDBA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6990 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C0E006.7EFCDBA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all! I've been reading the loopers archives, & there's some great = discussion here so I've joined up. And, immediately, have a question = (surprise!) I've noticed that some of the new multi-effects units on = the market (for instance, the Zoom GFX707) have samplers which are also = mentioned as "jam along" endless loops. My question is: are any of = these units actually useful as loopers, even in some limited way? And I = guess another question: which of these multi effects units impress you = most with their sound as it's layered..? Or in other words: For someone wanting to explore some basic looping in performance (very = low-key performance) and get some basic effects (chorus, reverb, delay), = and not wanting to clutter up the floor with a dozen pedals, or get a = second job to afford new equipment, what would you recommend? Greg Harris =20 Corvallis, Oregon www.storyplace.net ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C0E006.7EFCDBA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all!  I've been reading the = loopers=20 archives, & there's some great discussion here so I've joined = up.  And,=20 immediately, have a question (surprise!)  I've noticed that some of = the new=20 multi-effects units on the market (for instance, the Zoom GFX707) have = samplers=20 which are also mentioned as "jam along" endless loops.  My question = is:  are any of these units actually useful as loopers, even in = some=20 limited way?  And I guess another question:  which of these = multi=20 effects units impress you most with their sound as it's = layered..?
 
Or in other words:
For someone wanting to explore some = basic looping=20 in performance (very low-key performance) and get some basic effects = (chorus,=20 reverb, delay), and not wanting to clutter up the floor with a dozen = pedals, or=20 get a second job to afford new equipment,  what would you=20 recommend?
 
 
    Greg = Harris          &nbs= p;           
Corvallis, Oregon
www.storyplace.net
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C0E006.7EFCDBA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 19 04:45:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA22833; Sat, 19 May 2001 04:44:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 04:44:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000901c0e040$508e3680$fc518218@om> From: "Om_Audio" To: Subject: OT: Signal overloading analog gear bad? Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 01:47:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6991 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Is it bad to overload analog audio equipment? I'm quite enjoying momentarily sending these drums into my Lexicon Jam Man and the clipping that is occuring- just not sure if this can actually damage anything or not? Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 19 06:12:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA26098; Sat, 19 May 2001 06:09:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 06:09:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000f01c0e04b$b1ead4a0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <1511kf-2HMEm8C@fwd05.sul.t-online.com> Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 11:08:46 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <-V4n5.A.lXG.vYkB7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6992 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com So far what I'm hearing is that of all the folks who have had good situations with DJs, all of those DJs were also players of a musical instrument. Stephen Goodman * http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * 200th Loop Of The Week Contest ends May 19! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 19 07:06:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA27590; Sat, 19 May 2001 07:04:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 07:04:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 13:02:07 +0200 Subject: Re: OT: Signal overloading analog gear bad? From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <1514XS-0Eagu8C@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6993 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hmmmmmm.....? Maybe you should use a compressor/Limiter to bring your sound on an acceptable level. Analog Clipping is ouch ! DSigital Clipping is strange. Try a smnooth compressor setting,and maybe later expand it again to get full dynamic. Martin ---------- >Von: "Om_Audio" >An: >Betreff: OT: Signal overloading analog gear bad? >Datum: Sam, 19. Mai 2001 10:47 Uhr > >Is it bad to overload analog audio equipment? I'm quite enjoying momentarily >sending these drums into my Lexicon Jam Man and the clipping that is >occuring- just not sure if this can actually damage anything or not? > >Cliff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 19 09:39:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA31184; Sat, 19 May 2001 09:37:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 09:37:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <0FE98FA04927D411A48300D0B77CF9BB4D2675@tiger.middlebury.edu> From: "Christensen, Mark" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: playing w/ dj's Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 09:36:41 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6994 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com on the few occasions we've added a dj into the.. well, mix, it's been great. these guys have both been good listeners (a must with us being primarilly all-improvised). what also really helped was that both the drummer and myself (the stick player on this occasion) had a headphone feed from the dj so we could both lock up and get the nuances of what he was doing. i guess what i'm saying is that it was because everybody was into working together they were great experiences. i'm toying with the idea of working in a duo situation with a dj next year... still getting used to seeing people dance at gigs, though. m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 19 10:19:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA32722; Sat, 19 May 2001 10:18:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 10:18:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 16:15:42 +0200 Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Message-ID: <1517Ym-1H2SZsC@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id KAA32689 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6995 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I can only autograph this comment and experience report. The work and fun with a DJ can be immense. At least,the guy at the mixing console could be a quarter part DJ. So for those unsteady ones,this could be a solution with an option for a wider step. The interaction with a DJ is nearly as simple or hard like with "instrumental" Bandmates. This depends on the personality,character and musical background of each member.I am sure,a DJ can add a new version of being a band in several ways. The worse problem is,that most of the DJ´s will not join such a band. For what reasons ever..... The DJ´s I worked with,were pretty cool and openminded.But this is not a valid notion for all DJ´s ! Marty ---------- >Von: "Christensen, Mark" >An: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" >Betreff: RE: playing w/ dj's >Datum: Sam, 19. Mai 2001 15:36 Uhr > > > >on the few occasions we've added a dj into the.. well, mix, it's been >great. these guys have both been good listeners (a must with us being >primarilly all-improvised). what also really helped was that both the >drummer and myself (the stick player on this occasion) had a headphone feed >from the dj so we could both lock up and get the nuances of what he was >doing. > >i guess what i'm saying is that it was because everybody was into working >together they were great experiences. i'm toying with the idea of working >in a duo situation with a dj next year... > >still getting used to seeing people dance at gigs, though. > >m > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 19 10:40:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00658; Sat, 19 May 2001 10:38:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 10:38:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Message-ID: <7b.14fa6e41.2837df3a@aol.com> Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 10:37:46 EDT Subject: Re: Speaker Selector Unit To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_7b.14fa6e41.2837df3a_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 172 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6996 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_7b.14fa6e41.2837df3a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/19/01 12:54:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, billfox@fast.net writes: > I have two versions of Radio Shack's tape loop box. No, not THAT kind of > loop > you sillies! It is designed to connect to your receiver's tape loop (tape > ins > and outs) and allows you to have three instead of one tape deck connected to > your stereo. It allows dubbing between any of the three decks, too. This > would > be ideal for your purpose. Unfortunately, the shits at Radio Shack have > long > since discontinued this handy little device. I guess not enough people are > like > me and want to connect a DAT, a Cassette, a minidisc, and two VCRs to their > stereo tape loop. Go figure! > > Bill billfox@fast.net > Hi, Bill: Hey, I never thought of that. I have a tape selector switch (can't remember the mfgt.). I'll have to pull it out of equip. stash. Thanks. Regards, Paul --part1_7b.14fa6e41.2837df3a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/19/01 12:54:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
billfox@fast.net writes:


I have two versions of Radio Shack's tape loop box.  No, not THAT kind of
loop
you sillies!  It is designed to connect to your receiver's tape loop (tape
ins
and outs) and allows you to have three instead of one tape deck connected to
your stereo.  It allows dubbing between any of the three decks, too.  This
would
be ideal for your purpose.  Unfortunately, the shits at Radio Shack have
long
since discontinued this handy little device.  I guess not enough people are
like
me and want to connect a DAT, a Cassette, a minidisc, and two VCRs to their
stereo tape loop.  Go figure!

Bill         billfox@fast.net


Hi, Bill:

Hey, I never thought of that. I have a tape selector switch (can't remember
the mfgt.). I'll have to pull it out of equip. stash. Thanks.

Regards, Paul --part1_7b.14fa6e41.2837df3a_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 19 10:55:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00988; Sat, 19 May 2001 10:54:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 10:54:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <17.1600a50d.2837e2e6@aol.com> Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 10:53:26 EDT Subject: Re: multi effects units with samplers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_17.1600a50d.2837e2e6_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6997 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_17.1600a50d.2837e2e6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/19/01 4:41:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time, greg@storyplace.net writes: > My question is: are any of these units actually useful as loopers, even in > some limited way? greg.....i get some loops going with my zoom 2100, you should be able to find one really cheap, got mine new for $99.00 a bit ago, the sounds are not that great but you can change them up some.....good luck!.....m --part1_17.1600a50d.2837e2e6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/19/01 4:41:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
greg@storyplace.net writes:


My question is:  are any of these units actually useful as loopers, even in
some limited way?  


greg.....i get some loops going with my zoom 2100, you should be able to find
one really cheap, got mine new for $99.00 a bit ago, the sounds are not that
great but you can change them up some.....good luck!.....m --part1_17.1600a50d.2837e2e6_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 19 12:41:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA04711; Sat, 19 May 2001 12:38:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 12:38:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002a01c0e081$df7ba800$17ae1597@m7w1f4> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: References: <17.1600a50d.2837e2e6@aol.com> Subject: Re: multi effects units with samplers Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 18:36:21 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01C0E092.99F39B60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6998 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Messaggio in formato MIME composto da più parti. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C0E092.99F39B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Another one which is not bad is the Korg AX1000 - and it has the = advantage of being housed in a metal case, with an hard to break metal = expression pedal. And it has even great fx (all virtual models of = vintage stuff). Look for it. (avoid the new AX100, it costs a bit more, = has almost the same fx and is all plastic - a friend of mine already = broke on (and he plays Jazz and fingerpicked acoustic music, not metal = or so). ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nemoguitt@aol.com=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 4:53 PM Subject: Re: multi effects units with samplers In a message dated 5/19/01 4:41:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 greg@storyplace.net writes:=20 My question is: are any of these units actually useful as loopers, = even in=20 some limited way? =20 greg.....i get some loops going with my zoom 2100, you should be able = to find=20 one really cheap, got mine new for $99.00 a bit ago, the sounds are = not that=20 great but you can change them up some.....good luck!.....m=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C0E092.99F39B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Another one which is not bad is the = Korg AX1000 -=20 and it has the advantage of being housed in a metal case, with an hard = to break=20 metal expression pedal. And it has even great fx (all virtual models of = vintage=20 stuff). Look for it. (avoid the new AX100, it costs a bit more, has = almost the=20 same fx and is all plastic - a friend of mine already broke on (and he = plays=20 Jazz and fingerpicked acoustic music, not metal or so).
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Nemoguitt@aol.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 = 4:53=20 PM
Subject: Re: multi effects = units with=20 samplers

In a = message dated=20 5/19/01 4:41:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
greg@storyplace.net writes: =


My question is:  are any of these units actually = useful as=20 loopers, even in
some limited way? =  

greg.....i=20 get some loops going with my zoom 2100, you should be able to find =
one=20 really cheap, got mine new for $99.00 a bit ago, the sounds are not = that=20
great but you can change them up some.....good luck!.....m=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C0E092.99F39B60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 19 15:31:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA12194; Sat, 19 May 2001 15:29:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 15:29:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQ3KL/jiBDIFjz93QHcc8XMizAOUwIUbx+94PqqSnmwOjrpXj8X/mz1Naw= From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 15:28:09 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's Message-ID: <24931-3B06C949-67@storefull-244.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen)'s message of Sat, 19 May 2001 16:15:42 +0200 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6999 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i try to be openminded but after practicing for 30 years so i can play like warren haynes im not about to get on stage with some guy who plays records!!!may sound cold but at least im being honest.I want to play with musicians!!Thats the way i came up...........J "Do What Thou Wilt,Shall Be the Whole Of the Law" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 19 19:13:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA23386; Sat, 19 May 2001 19:10:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 19:10:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: landman@pop.ncal.verio.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 16:11:00 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) Subject: Repeater Demo in Marin! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7000 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fellow Loopers- Just got back from the demo of Repeater in Marin today. Repeater was demonstrated by Don Goodeve, head software honcho on the Repeater team using late beta software which was described as "first candidate for general release". Don used his acoustic guitar, pre-sampled material, and material sampled live off a CD player. First of all, during the 60-90 minute long demo, the unit didn't crash. Not once. All the promised functions seem to be there, multiple tracks, stereo recording, pitch shifting/time stretching, reverse, time slipping, beat analysis, card storage, quick software updates via card (took less than a minute!), undo/redo buffer, quick selection and playing of different loops (this'll be fun!), resampling or bouncing down, all in all everything seemed there, and working well. Any negatives? No really strong ones. I noticed the beat detection at times was right on and at other times did the "Drunken Sailor" thing (apologies to any and all Drunken Sailors on L.D.). Until psychic beat detection software is invented, it seems to work as well as can be expected, and will probably just require a little practice to learn how to best use. I noticed the tempo "bobble" occasionally when messing around with the beat detection parameters, but again this is to be expected while the unit is "listening" and trying to determine tempo from audio input. The pitch shifting/time stretching sounded very impressive in small to medium intervals, not quite as impressive in larger ones like one octave up, or two down. The "mandolin" effect by pitching an acoustic guitar track one octave up sounded somewhat abrasive. To be fair all pitch shifters output vary depending on the source material, so an acoustic guitar track may not have the easiest for any shifter to deal with. And having the ability to pitchshift different tracks different amounts, resample, etc, makes this a really exciting feature. I suspect you'll all like it very much. I'm personally very grateful that Electrix has put the time and energy into creating such a perfect (or damn near perfect) looping tool, and suggest those of us on the list who capped on Electrix over their production snafus sit in the lotus position, face Canada and apologize humbly before we buy one:) When is it coming out? Well, bottom line, units should still be shipping in June according to Don. Electrix is basically in final bug-fix mode now. One other thing, I wouldn't have gone into this, but Rik Elswit specifically asked the audience to post this to L.D., so here goes- According to Elswit, due to a close relationship with Electrix and a large order of Repeaters, Bananas-At-Large will be getting the first units, before anyone else in the country. Elswit specifically wanted LD'ers to know that if they choose not to buy from Bananas, they will have to wait. This was confirmed by the local sales rep for the region as well. This reinforces a statement Rik made to me on this issue several months ago when I was doing some shopping at Bananas, when he told me "Alto Music won't be getting any Repeaters". Rik went on to complain strongly about the Alto Music group buy controversy (for those of you unfamiliar, essentially Alto had the temerity to offer an extremely low group buy price). It was suggested to me that Alto was probably run by some venture capitalists and would probably be out of business in the future. Now for all I know, Alto could be run by venture capitalists, imperial running dog lackeys, or the ghost of Elvis. And I really don't care. Evidentally Alto did a fine job with the EDP group buy some years back, and the few times I've dealt with Alto, they've given the best price I could find, without any hassle. As far as Bananas, I've dealt with them since the mid-70's (that's not a typo, mid-70's!), and had decent to excellent results over the years. I've dealt with Rik several times, and think he's an allright fella, as a matter of fact, I purchased my EDP from him and Bananas. But I find this whole matter somewhat disturbing. I can see where any company or businessman would get upset at being undercut by someone willing to make less profit. I wouldn't blame them for refusing to meet a price if it's too low for them to make the profit they feel they need to make. But I would very much resent them trying to arm-wrestle the manufacturer to lock out another retailer because they're too strong a competitor, and that's the subliminal message I get out of this. Damon, if you're out there, please comment on who gets what shipments when, why this is so, and what time delays could be reasonably be expected for those later in the line. The funny thing is I wouldn't have minded paying a premium to get mine early, but I don't like the way this has gone down. This afternoon's statement made up my mind, and I'll be waiting for the Alto group buy. Best- Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 19 20:15:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA25637; Sat, 19 May 2001 20:13:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 20:13:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B070BA7.826C02C0@zerocrossing.net> Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 17:11:21 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: sine@zerocrossing.net Organization: ZeroCrossing Multimedia Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Godbox II References: <04f001c024c0$6da0f640$080210ac@jpalmer> <009101c024c1$eef69780$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> <200009230611.XAA26535@swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7001 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On the other hand, the Againinator will have most of the features of the godbox II, but should be here sooner as we're not relying on hardware or software, but creating a system which will be totally biological. The only downside is that you'll have to let the Againinator take breaks to use a litter box. Gern Blanston Product development Eletros Inc. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 19 20:21:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA25998; Sat, 19 May 2001 20:20:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 20:20:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <9e.14a45611.2838677b@aol.com> Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 20:19:07 EDT Subject: Re: Repeater Demo in Marin! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7002 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com landman@wco.com wrote: >The pitch shifting/time stretching sounded very impressive in small to >medium intervals, not quite as impressive in larger ones like one octave >up, or two down. heartily disagreed: depends on the qualities yer interested in, eh? i *really* like repeater's 'sound' when slowing down/speeding up a 'sample' --- but, most especially *slowing down* the sample's original tempo: there's nothing like continuosly slowing the entire band down from 160-bpm to 1-bpm to get a sonic fuckwit's brains a-boiling..... *-) best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 19 20:28:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA26138; Sat, 19 May 2001 20:26:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 20:26:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <20.16a75b79.28386914@aol.com> Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 20:25:56 EDT Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com spgoodman@earthlight.net writes: >So far what I'm hearing is that of all the folks who have had good >situations with DJs, all of those DJs were also players of a musical >instrument. well, both of the djs with whom i've played are accomplished players of musical instruments; namely: turntables. best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 19 20:36:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA26471; Sat, 19 May 2001 20:34:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 20:34:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 20:33:32 EDT Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ko-jella@webtv.net writes: >i try to be openminded but after practicing for 30 years maybe you might eventually feel better if ya tried harder? there are some unbelievable turntablists around; musicians w/strong (new) skills, massive musical/musicological knowledge and, thereby, open minds: indeed, more so than many guitarists, imsao. best, dt / s-c imsao = 'in my seemingly arrogant opinion' From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 19 20:40:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA26781; Sat, 19 May 2001 20:39:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 20:39:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B071207.7CA18848@zerocrossing.net> Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 17:38:31 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: sine@zerocrossing.net Organization: ZeroCrossing Multimedia Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repeater Demo in Marin! References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes, I was also there and saw all the wondrous things the Repeater does (will do...) It was beautiful... oh so beautiful... The other Mark wrote: >But I would very much resent them trying to arm-wrestle the >manufacturer to lock out another retailer because they're too strong a >competitor, and that's the subliminal message I get out of this. I am in total agreement here. What the hell is that? Altos Music didn't advertise the group buy price, so I can't imagine how they could have broken any dealer agreement. Not getting repeaters because they're trying to do a group buy at a low price? That sounds like price fixing to me, and I don't know what those socialists do up there in Canada, with their floppy heads and beady eyes (this is me totally joking, as Bush came into office I think of immigrating to Canada every day after John Stewart's Daily Show), but here in the US, that is illegal, plain and simple. Alto music could give the first batch of Repeaters to an orphanage if they chose to, as long as they paid Electrix within the specified time range. So, will I wait to buy a Repeater from Alto music, or be as the Electix Salesman said, "An early adopter..." and go to Banana's, I don't know, but it does leave a bad taste in my mouth. I sure am jones'n for one though. I sure am. Also, a message to Electrix: We guitar geeks, while spenders on toys, are probably not going to be your biggest market, and I'd suggest that future demos have a guitarist and maybe a DJ. I have a feeling that DJs will ultimately become your bread and butter. Mark Sottilaro From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 19 20:53:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA27460; Sat, 19 May 2001 20:51:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 20:51:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B0714E5.CA245D4C@zerocrossing.net> Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 17:50:45 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro Reply-To: sine@zerocrossing.net Organization: ZeroCrossing Multimedia Design X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song References: <20.16a75b79.28386914@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com dt wrote: well, both of the djs with whom i've played are accomplished players of musical instruments; namely: turntables. ah how right you are. I am in total agreement, however I have to say that DJs that cue up and crossfade someone else's prerecorded music, really don't in my mind belong in the same group as those that really deconstruct and collage music to make it a totally new thing. I had a chance to hear and talk to DJ Spooky, and he was amazing. Very smart, and great at his craft. Now there is a musician. The one DJ that I did play with, did not do this at all. I've come across quite a few DJs that seem to have no interest in doing anything else but the cue up and crossfade thing. A playlist isn't called a song, because it isn't. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 19 21:49:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA29958; Sat, 19 May 2001 21:47:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 21:47:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000c01c0e0ce$37974840$711b4242@bluwater> Reply-To: "Justin Stiegert" From: "Justin Stiegert" To: Subject: Boss RC-20/ Headrush/ Line 6 DL4? Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 21:43:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0E0AC.B0489F40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0E0AC.B0489F40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey everyone, I am really interested in purchasing one of these units. I = have no idea which one to get though, I am leaning towards the RC-20 but = I am open to any suggestions anyone may have. Thanks so muuch for any = info! 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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0E0AC.B0489F40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 19 22:29:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA32325; Sat, 19 May 2001 22:27:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 22:27:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010519192047.0210f830@pop.mindspring.com> X-Files: The truth is out there. Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 19:28:42 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Subject: Re: Repeater Demo in Marin! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com What are the odds? Three Marks from LD at the demo. Mark Landman, Mark Hamburg and Mark Sottilaro (who I impressed or freaked out by my uncanny ability to guess people's names). Did you guys know that the others were there? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 00:52:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA03987; Sun, 20 May 2001 00:50:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 00:50:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 00:49:09 EDT Subject: Re: Repeater Demo in Marin! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d8.68440bf.2838a6c5_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_d8.68440bf.2838a6c5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/19/01 10:26:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sean_@mindspring.com writes: > What are the odds? Three Marks from LD at the demo. > and imagine how much odder if they all were sportin an LD tea-shirt and hat.....mnm --part1_d8.68440bf.2838a6c5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/19/01 10:26:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
sean_@mindspring.com writes:


What are the odds?  Three Marks from LD at the demo.


and imagine how much odder if they all were sportin an LD tea-shirt and
hat.....mnm --part1_d8.68440bf.2838a6c5_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 01:26:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA05989; Sun, 20 May 2001 01:24:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 01:24:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: landman@pop.ncal.verio.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 22:25:31 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) Subject: Re: Repeater Demo in Marin! Resent-Message-ID: <6DKx1.A.PdB.GU1B7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >What are the odds? Three Marks from LD at the demo. > >Mark Landman, Mark Hamburg and Mark Sottilaro (who I impressed or freaked >out by my uncanny ability to guess people's names). > >Did you guys know that the others were there? No, I wish we had agreed on a secret Looper's code, flower in the lapel, something... Next time for sure! Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 01:33:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA06236; Sun, 20 May 2001 01:31:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 01:31:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: landman@pop.ncal.verio.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 22:32:18 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) Subject: Re: Repeater Demo in Marin! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >landman@wco.com wrote: >>The pitch shifting/time stretching sounded very impressive in small to >>medium intervals, not quite as impressive in larger ones like one octave >>up, or two down. > >heartily disagreed: depends on the qualities yer interested in, eh? >i *really* like repeater's 'sound' when slowing down/speeding up a 'sample' >--- but, most especially *slowing down* the sample's original tempo: >there's nothing like continuosly slowing the entire band down from 160-bpm to >1-bpm to get a sonic fuckwit's brains a-boiling..... >*-) >best, >dt / s-c Well, this is true too, since you toss out roughly 50% of the original signal each time you drop an octave thru pitchshifting, by the time you get to 1 bpm you've got some strange flangey sounding texture, (this was demo'd too, I imagine 4 tracks of it could be pretty neat), but for sounding "appropriate", i.e. resembling strongly the original source signal, that ain't happenin... I asked Don about disabling the pitch shift from the time stretch, I'd like the option of changing the delay time and getting pitch shifts like an old digital delay, especially being able to overdub thru different settings, but this is kinda an esoteric request,,, Best- Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 02:28:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA08314; Sun, 20 May 2001 02:27:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 02:27:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 23:26:26 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Repeater Demo in Marin! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 10:32 PM -0700 5/19/01, Mark Landman wrote: > I'd like >the option of changing the delay time and getting pitch shifts like an old >digital delay, especially being able to overdub thru different settings, >but this is kinda an esoteric request,,, no, it's not an esoteric request. It's one of the most frequent requests I've heard for new loop devices. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 02:36:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA08603; Sun, 20 May 2001 02:35:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 02:35:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "future perfect" To: Subject: RE: Repeater Demo in Marin! Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 02:36:07 -0400 Message-ID: <000201c0e0f7$26f358c0$3d2f04d1@ij.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <6_CRKC.A.RGC.MW2B7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com And will it be available on the Plex upgrade?? Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices http://www.hazardfactor.com > no, it's not an esoteric request. It's one of the most > frequent requests I've heard for new loop devices. > > kim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 03:32:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA10486; Sun, 20 May 2001 03:29:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 03:29:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Message-Id: <200105200728.AAA24359@falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 00:31:02 -0700 Subject: Re: Repeater Demo in Marin! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com yeah its somethin i do everyday w/ pcm 42-i luv the box more&more... stanner ---------- >From: Kim Flint >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Repeater Demo in Marin! >Date: Sat, May 19, 2001, 11:26 PM > >At 10:32 PM -0700 5/19/01, Mark Landman wrote: >> I'd like >>the option of changing the delay time and getting pitch shifts like an old >>digital delay, especially being able to overdub thru different settings, >>but this is kinda an esoteric request,,, > >no, it's not an esoteric request. It's one of the most frequent requests >I've heard for new loop devices. > >kim > >______________________________________________________________________ >Kim Flint | Looper's Delight >kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 04:52:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA13481; Sun, 20 May 2001 04:50:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 04:50:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 01:49:01 -0700 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: anybody using the Boss RC-20 yet Resent-Message-ID: <4tJGIC.A.bSD.NU4B7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hey- is anybody using the Boss RC-20 yet? I guess it is shipping by now, although I've gotten conflicting stories about that. Since there are no greater gear sluts than those here on LD, I'm surprised we haven't heard any reviews yet! I want to put up a page for it on the Looper's Delight site if it is available, so I'd like to get user reviews from anybody that has actually used it. If that is you, please send something in! thanks, kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 05:12:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA14969; Sun, 20 May 2001 05:10:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 05:10:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002601c0e10c$9ee8fbe0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <20.16a75b79.28386914@aol.com> Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 10:09:38 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7016 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Nope, a turntable isn't a musical instrument no matter how great it sounds. It might be supremely innovative and sometimes original how some folks utilize such an electronic device or sampling unit for that matter to create (or more accurately, composite) music, but at the most a turntable can only be used AS a musical instrument. In case anyone's wondering my comment wasn't a put-down of turntablists. I was saying that the collaborative dynamic is very, very different. When was the last time more than two DJs got together in the same room to "play" together, anyway? Sometimes I think you wait for my comments specifically, DT. [cartoonistic pout] ;] Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! "Hedewa7@aol.com" (DT) put forth: > spgoodman@earthlight.net writes: > >So far what I'm hearing is that of all the folks who have had good > >situations with DJs, all of those DJs were also players of a musical > >instrument. > well, both of the djs with whom i've played are accomplished players of > musical instruments; > namely: > turntables. > best, > dt / s-c > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 05:23:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA15386; Sun, 20 May 2001 05:21:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 05:21:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001101c0e10e$0d55ea60$48b51597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: References: Subject: Re: anybody using the Boss RC-20 yet Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 11:19:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Kim after long time I still don't see any Eventide Orville/DSP7000/DSP7500 page on LD site since the long and very informative posts of long ago. Still there are uninformative pages on discontinued products like 4000 and 3000 or on TC2290 & DOD boxes. I guess 323 seconds of looping time, 174 seconds of real time sampling/editing with indipendent time/pitch stretching, looping on 4,6,8, 12 or 16 delay lines at the same time, fractal looping, quad audio looping and much more ARE a good thing to know for fellow loopers. If you need any more infos, I'll be glad to send you anything you might request on it. Thank You Best Italo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Flint" To: Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 10:49 AM Subject: anybody using the Boss RC-20 yet > hey- > > is anybody using the Boss RC-20 yet? I guess it is shipping by now, > although I've gotten conflicting stories about that. Since there are no > greater gear sluts than those here on LD, I'm surprised we haven't heard > any reviews yet! > > I want to put up a page for it on the Looper's Delight site if it is > available, so I'd like to get user reviews from anybody that has actually > used it. If that is you, please send something in! > > thanks, > kim > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 05:38:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA15824; Sun, 20 May 2001 05:36:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 05:36:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B078FE5.B29F8719@altruistmusic.com> Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 02:35:33 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's References: <20.16a75b79.28386914@aol.com> <002601c0e10c$9ee8fbe0$0201a8c0@stephen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com A handful of quick comments and queries which arise in mine own head from this thread... -- It's ironic, to me, that so many "musicians" lament the apparent reluctance (much less the ability) of DJs to play with them, when there are in fact so many musicians who instantly disparage the very notion of playing with a DJ themselves. -- How many decades ago was it that John Cage wrote the piece for multiple turntables? -- The analytical arguments about the point at which a turntable is or is not an instrument reminds me of a barbed comment in a set of Andres Segovia liner notes which criticised "Those who dare to call themselves guitarists, while remaining umbilically attached to a current of electricity in order to enable their so-called music making." -- You've gotta love a debate regarding the status of a DJ as a "non-musician," on account of their not playing a "real instrument," on a mailing list dedicated to making music via electronic signal processing. -- And most of all, I have to wonder... ...exactly what gets accomplished by trying to objectively determine whether or not a DJ is or isn't a musician? Or whether or not a turntable is or is not a "true" musical instrument? To me, the more relevant consideration is: what does the end result SOUNDS LIKE? Is there anything being SAID? I've seen Nels Cline play mind-boggling stuff using such "non-instruments" as a delay pedal, a screwdriver, and a kitchen utensil. I saw Miroslav Tadic play a duo show a few weeks ago at the Knitting Factory with a DJ, and it was tremendously musical and inspiring. I saw DJ Disc do a show with Praxis (Bill Laswell, Buckethead, and Brain in the lineup) where he scratched for the entire length of the set; not once did he actually just spin the record, or give any indication as to what record he was playing. At a later show on the same tour, he set fire to his turntable with lighter fluid. Kind of reminds me of another guy a few decades back who used to light his guitar on fire... who also got criticized because he was playing different-sounding music that some people couldn't hear, on a thing some people didn't recognize as a valid instrument. Personally, I DON'T CARE if anyone in particular does or does not objectively decide that a DJ is or is not a musician, or a turntable is or is not an instrument. Regardless of whatever anyone decides for themselves (or anyone else), it still sounds like whatever it sounds like. And if I dig the sound that comes out, I'm still gonna listen and enjoy. This concludes my deep thought for the month... Andre LaFosse | Disruption Theory | http://www.altruistmusic.com ================================================================ "A spectacular collision of manifold musical thoughts and patterns... To call Disruption Theory a futuristic album would be an understatement." (20th Century Guitar Magazine, February 2001) "For electric guitar enthusiasts everywhere, this one's essential." (Alternative Press Magazine, September 2000) "Fucking amazing CD." (Derek Sivers, president, CD Baby) "His six-stringer is pumped up with energy, creating a firestorm of pyrotechnics and burning sounds, but with a sensitivity to weirdness and experimentation. Disruption Theory reveals the difference it makes when a player knows what he is doing. Here is one that deserves the title 'unique'." (Expose Magazine, October 2000) "Fripp and Zappa, step aside." (MOJO Magazine, May 2000) ========================================================= From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 05:58:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA16762; Sun, 20 May 2001 05:57:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 05:57:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010520095639.82846.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 02:56:39 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: anybody using the Boss RC-20 yet To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <015VWB.A.EFE.YT5B7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Kim, I've seen a few reviews over on HC. http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/Boss/RC_20_Loop_Station-01.html John --- Kim Flint wrote: > hey- > > is anybody using the Boss RC-20 yet? I guess it is > shipping by now, > although I've gotten conflicting stories about that. > Since there are no > greater gear sluts than those here on LD, I'm > surprised we haven't heard > any reviews yet! > > I want to put up a page for it on the Looper's > Delight site if it is > available, so I'd like to get user reviews from > anybody that has actually > used it. If that is you, please send something in! > > thanks, > kim > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@loopers-delight.com | > http://www.loopers-delight.com > > ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 06:07:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA18239; Sun, 20 May 2001 06:06:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 06:06:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001001c0e114$f07b93c0$fc518218@we.mediaone.net> From: "Om_Audio" To: "Loopers List" Subject: DJ or Musician? Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 03:09:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I saw a man play a SINGLE tambourine a few months back that could put ANY drummer on earth in his place (with Remember Shakti)- I've seen a man play a plain wooden box as my mouth drooped open- I've seen people on the streets of New York playing oven racks and the sidewalk itself- they are all musicians- A DJ CAN be a musician, but isn't necessarily so- but the creativity and rhythmic dexterity to which I have seen some djs employ can leave little doubt for me on the topic- Cliff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 06:17:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA18586; Sun, 20 May 2001 06:15:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 06:15:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000701c0e115$1b244ae0$74aa5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #217 Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 06:09:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. Show #217 May 17, 2001. RECAP: ======================= ======================== ============================== On this show, I continued the month-long focus on the Jodrell Bank Concert series in the UK. The feature CD at midnight was the Arcane disc from the Neu Harmony six CDR set, Concerts at Jodrell Bank. I also played the music of Spacecraft to promote their upcoming show at the next Gathering. Jodrell Bank http://wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/2001/focus01.html#may The Gathering http://wdiyfm.org/emusic/events.html PLAYLIST: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:04 pm Something Completely Microwaves Megakatz (Invisible Shadows) Different Elektronische Maschine Vitalo 2001 The Key to Compute (none) Tranquillity Well Known Territories Core (Invisible Shadows) Spacecraft Planetary Orbit Spacecraft (Lektronic Soundscapes) Pyramid Peak First Mission Fish'n Love (Invisible Shadows) AirSculpture Bock Quark Soup - Jodrell Bank (Neu Harmony) Alhedion Part I Kosmische Spuren Eines Lebens (Invisible Shadows) 12:00 am Arcane Track 1 Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) Arcane Track 2 Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) Arcane Track 3 Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) NEXT SHOW: ======================= ======================== ============================== On the next EMUSIC, I'll continue the month-long focus on the Jodrell Bank concerts in the UK as typified by the six CDR release from Neu Harmony. The feature CD at midnight will be the Arcane disc. I will also play the music of Spacecraft who will appear at the next Gathering in Philadelphia on May 19th. Bill billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html ============================================================================ Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, send email to: emusic-wdiy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 07:04:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA18920; Sun, 20 May 2001 06:47:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 06:47:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00b201c0e11b$07b45800$5d81e3a5@looppool> From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: References: <200105200938.FAA16145@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: re: playing with DJs Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 03:52:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Stephen wrote: "Nope, a turntable isn't a musical instrument no matter how great it sounds." Ouch!!!!! Listen to DJ Shadow's record, "Endtroducing" and tell me that the turntable is not an instrument. I believe an instrument is any device with which a musician makes music. That was a more creative, innovative, and musical record than 90% of all of the convential instrument recordings that were put out that year. Also, check out the rhythm pyrotechnics of the Scratch Pickles or that fabulous DJ who "plays" with Beck's live tour. Considerably hipper and more accomplished (in terms of rhythmic acuity and precision and chops) than 90% of the drummers I see play live. (Hopefully you are not one of those people who considers drummers to be non-musicians ;-). I've learned as much about rhythm and timbre and musical conception form DJs as I have from other more conventional instrumentalists in the last couple of years. It strikes me that in the early seventies, convential instrumentalists questioned the 'authenticity' of synthesizers. In the eighties, the same folks questioned the 'authenticity' of drum machines and samplers. In the eighties and nineties, the same people questioned the musicality of rap/techno and drum and bass. A tool is a tool. A style, a style. An instrument, an instrument. Most people don't do very creative things with strings, guitars, horns, basses and drums so I agree with you that most DJ's are not using their turntables as 'instruments'. Musical innovation is musical innovation, however and, like it or lump it, the turntable (and the increasing use of creative "in the moment" mixing effects, including------he says bringing it back on to topic--------digital loopers) is here to stay as a legitimate instrument. Yours, in mock righteous anger, Rick Walker (loop.pool) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 08:43:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA22386; Sun, 20 May 2001 08:41:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 08:41:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <31.15082252.2839152c@aol.com> Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 08:40:12 EDT Subject: Re: Repeater Demo in Marin! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com landman@wco.com writes: >Well, this is true too, since you toss out roughly 50% of the original >signal each time you drop an octave thru pitchshifting, by the time you >get >to 1 bpm you've got some strange flangey sounding texture, (this was demo'd >too, I imagine 4 tracks of it could be pretty neat), but for sounding >"appropriate", i.e. resembling strongly the original source signal, that >ain't happenin... oops; actually, i meant to be talking about timeshifting-independent-of-pitch, here; i was unclear. best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 09:17:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA23771; Sun, 20 May 2001 09:15:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 09:15:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <4e.1630f5b2.28391d4d@aol.com> Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 09:14:53 EDT Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com spgoodman@earthlight.net writes: >Nope, a turntable isn't a musical instrument no matter how great it sounds. obviously, i disagree. >It might be supremely innovative and sometimes original how some folks >utilize such an electronic device or sampling unit for that matter to create >(or more accurately, composite) music, but at the most a turntable can >only be used AS a musical instrument. following that line-of-thinking, i might then also conclude (like many already have done & may continue to do so, in future) that a looping device 'isn't a musical instrument', either --- indeed, it might be construed as one step further *away* from actually being a sound-'generator' --- (unless, of course, it's in a feedback-loop) --- than a turntable; oddly, i think i've been subject to this attitudinal mien, nearly my entire adult life..... aiyyyyy..................... >In case anyone's wondering my comment >wasn't a put-down of turntablists. ah, then i misunderstood you; sorry! it sounded so *definitive*, though..... >I was saying that the collaborative >dynamic is very, very different. yeah. but -not to be fatuous, here- what isn't 'different'? every interaction w/every individual (&/or set of) musician(s) i've *ever* played w/has revealed/grown its own dynamic: drummers, bands, saxophonists, 100-piece orchestras, sarodists, chainsaws, turntables, etc..... >When was the last time more than two >DJs got together in the same room to "play" together, anyway? i wouldn't know, really; don't get *out* much, these days. *-) i do know that i've got a buncha vinyl & discs w/multiple tablists upon them, though..... >Sometimes I think you wait for my comments specifically, DT. oh no, darling! *-) but they do have a certain..... ummmm..... resonance..... i mean no harm; just gotta speak-my-nonsensical-piece, here, once inna while..... btw: there's kim to thank (or, blame), fer that. best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 11:35:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27938; Sun, 20 May 2001 11:34:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 11:34:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [208.245.109.15] From: "max valentino" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: DJ or Musician? Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 15:33:23 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 May 2001 15:33:23.0993 (UTC) FILETIME=[35042890:01C0E142] Resent-Message-ID: <0Xclm.A.jyG.jP-B7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I once saw Airto play a piece with only audience members keys! Absolutely stunning. It ain't the instrument (or what the instrument is) it's who's using it! Max >From: "Om_Audio" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: "Loopers List" >Subject: DJ or Musician? >Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 03:09:21 -0700 > >I saw a man play a SINGLE tambourine a few months back that could put ANY >drummer on earth in his place (with Remember Shakti)- I've seen a man play >a >plain wooden box as my mouth drooped open- I've seen people on the streets >of New York playing oven racks and the sidewalk itself- they are all >musicians- A DJ CAN be a musician, but isn't necessarily so- but the >creativity and rhythmic dexterity to which I have seen some djs employ can >leave little doubt for me on the topic- Cliff > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 12:05:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA30108; Sun, 20 May 2001 12:04:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 12:04:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: KB305@aol.com Message-ID: <4d.bfa2db0.283944b7@aol.com> Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 12:03:03 EDT Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4d.bfa2db0.283944b7_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_4d.bfa2db0.283944b7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit excerpts from the latest debate: >It might be supremely innovative and sometimes original how some folks >utilize such an electronic device or sampling unit for that matter to create >(or more accurately, composite) music, but at the most a turntable can >only be used AS a musical instrument. following that line-of-thinking, i might then also conclude (like many already have done & may continue to do so, in future) that a looping device 'isn't a musical instrument', either --- indeed, it might be construed as one step further *away* from actually being a sound-'generator' --- (unless, of course, it's in a feedback-loop) --- than a turntable; oddly, i think i've been subject to this attitudinal mien, nearly my entire adult life..... aiyyyyy..................... Something that a person can use to make a sound - how could it NOT be a musical instrument, if used with intent? I remember hearing a John Cage performance, about 1985 or 6. He used nothing. He made sounds with his mouth. One could wield anything in the manner of a composer. Especially a pencil, or more appropriately, an eraser. And improvising is spontanteous composition, right? I've heard lots of stuff about 'What Is Art?' Art is intent, for me. > > >I was saying that the collaborative > >dynamic is very, very different. > yeah. but -not to be fatuous, here- what isn't 'different'? > every interaction w/every individual (&/or set of) musician(s) i've *ever* > played w/has revealed/grown its own dynamic: drummers, bands, saxophonists, > 100-piece orchestras, sarodists, chainsaws, turntables, etc..... > Just as every conversation or thread has its own dynamic too. > >When was the last time more than two > >DJs got together in the same room to "play" together, anyway? > > Back in school, Jack Petersen used to say: "That's the great thing about guitars - two guitarists can play together. You ever seen a couple of plumbers get together and do their thing? Or trombone players?" > i mean no harm; just gotta speak-my-nonsensical-piece, here, once inna > while..... > btw: > there's kim to thank (or, blame), fer that. > best, > dt / s-c > Actually, dt's are pretty much the only posts to LD I read consistently... Kevin --part1_4d.bfa2db0.283944b7_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit excerpts from the latest debate:

>It might be supremely innovative and sometimes original how some folks
>utilize such an electronic device or sampling unit for that matter to create
>(or more accurately, composite) music, but at the most a turntable can
>only be used AS a musical instrument.
following that line-of-thinking, i might then also conclude (like many
already have done & may continue to do so, in future) that a looping device
'isn't a musical instrument', either --- indeed, it might be construed as one
step further *away* from actually being a sound-'generator' --- (unless, of
course, it's in a feedback-loop) --- than a turntable;
oddly, i think i've been subject to this attitudinal mien, nearly my entire
adult life.....
aiyyyyy.....................


Something that a person can use to make a sound - how could it NOT be a
musical instrument, if used with intent?  
I remember hearing a John Cage performance, about 1985 or 6.  He used
nothing.  He made sounds with his mouth.  
One could wield anything in the manner of a composer.  Especially a pencil,
or more appropriately, an eraser.  And improvising is spontanteous
composition, right?  
I've heard lots of stuff about 'What Is Art?'  Art is intent, for me.


>I was saying that the collaborative
>dynamic is very, very different.
yeah. but -not to be fatuous, here- what isn't 'different'?
every interaction w/every individual (&/or set of) musician(s) i've *ever*
played w/has revealed/grown its own dynamic: drummers, bands, saxophonists,
100-piece orchestras, sarodists, chainsaws, turntables, etc.....


Just as every conversation or thread has its own dynamic too.

>When was the last time more than two
>DJs got together in the same room to "play" together, anyway?



Back in school, Jack Petersen used to say: "That's the great thing about
guitars - two guitarists can play together.  You ever seen a couple of
plumbers get together and do their thing?  Or trombone players?"

i mean no harm; just gotta speak-my-nonsensical-piece, here, once inna
while.....
btw:
there's kim to thank (or, blame), fer that.
best,
dt / s-c


Actually, dt's are pretty much the only posts to LD I read consistently...

Kevin --part1_4d.bfa2db0.283944b7_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 12:21:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA30600; Sun, 20 May 2001 12:20:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 12:20:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 09:19:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Rik Elswit Message-Id: <200105201619.JAA05790@well.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anybody using the Boss RC-20 yet Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com We got a huge shipment of 3 of them last week. We moved two of them on to customers and kept the third as a demo. It works very nicely and looks jso be just the ticket for the person who needs more looptime than the DL4. It sounds good and operates as advertised. My one personal cvomplaint is that the pedal feels stiff, which I made more to my liking by clipping off about a quarter of the spring. You can use the tap tempo function to speed up or slow down any loop once you've saved it to memory, but you start to get artifacts if you try and push that too far. If you need stereo, the DL4 is still your only inexpensive choice. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 12:35:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA30970; Sun, 20 May 2001 12:33:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 12:33:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B07F3C4.3BC3@Hevanet.Com.> Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 09:41:41 -0700 From: DaViD AuKeR X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repeater Demo in Marin! References: <200105200938.FAA16145@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In his review of the Repeater demo at Bananas-At-Large, Mark Landman wrote: > I've dealt with Rik several times, and think >he's an allright fella, as a matter of fact, I purchased my EDP from him and Bananas. I also purchased my EDP from Rik and Bananas, 4/00. I found him to be really friendly and quite talkative, both on phone and e-mail UNTIL I needed help on a problem, when he said, "Sounds like you need a new unit," after which I never heard from him again, no answer on repeated e-mails or repeated calls. I felt abandoned by my lack of customer support after the check was cashed. Thankfully, I got valuable info from this list, Kim and Shane Radtke (Gibson tech ). I found it strange that either Rik didn't know about Gibson's tech resource, or anyway didn't pass it on to me. > Rik went on to complain strongly about the > Alto Music group buy controversy (for those of you unfamiliar, essentially > Alto had the temerity to offer an extremely low group buy price). It was > suggested to me that Alto was probably run by some venture capitalists and > would probably be out of business in the future. Seems Rik has mixed feelings on this, as in November, to Loopers-Delight, Rik Elswit wrote: > > "Is the Repeater available for purchase yet? It's 11/1. Did the group buy > happen yet? Too late for this?" > > Is there a group buy, and if so, how do I get in on it? Hmmmm... Mark wrote: > > The funny thing is I wouldn't have minded >paying a premium to get mine early, but I don't like the way this >has gone down. This afternoon's statement made up my mind, >and I'll be waiting for the Alto group buy. My one experience with Rik (and Bananas) was not good (thankfully, my EDP HAS lived, and I love it!!). Alto has my Repeater order. ~~David Auker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 12:57:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA31749; Sun, 20 May 2001 12:55:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 12:55:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [195.92.168.169] From: "H. da Massa" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anybody using the Boss RC-20 yet Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 16:54:33 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 May 2001 16:54:33.0492 (UTC) FILETIME=[8B76BD40:01C0E14D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Rik In terms of operating the unit - how much can you do foot-only without climbing down and switchflicking - compared with the boomerang - reverse, layer, moving between different samples etc etc - I'm thinking in terms of stage use. ----Original Message Follows---- From: Rik Elswit Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anybody using the Boss RC-20 yet Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 09:19:42 -0700 (PDT) We got a huge shipment of 3 of them last week. We moved two of them on to customers and kept the third as a demo. It works very nicely and looks jso be just the ticket for the person who needs more looptime than the DL4. It sounds good and operates as advertised. My one personal cvomplaint is that the pedal feels stiff, which I made more to my liking by clipping off about a quarter of the spring. You can use the tap tempo function to speed up or slow down any loop once you've saved it to memory, but you start to get artifacts if you try and push that too far. If you need stereo, the DL4 is still your only inexpensive choice. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 12:58:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA31897; Sun, 20 May 2001 12:56:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 12:56:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000201c0e14d$b013e880$32886fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: <001101c0e10e$0d55ea60$48b51597@default> Subject: Re: Fractal looping Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 12:11:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey Italo, What's fractal looping ? Sounds interesting. Gareth >snip looping on 4,6,8, > 12 or 16 delay lines at the same time, fractal looping, quad audio looping > and much more ARE a good thing to know for fellow loopers. > If you need any more infos, I'll be glad to send you anything you might > request on it. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 13:05:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01001; Sun, 20 May 2001 13:04:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 13:04:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQivdsPp0hI6VM3A4NogneMoe4G4AIVAIJCvUltwLfnIZoaeRXslZTCWvcv From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 13:03:43 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Fractal looping Message-ID: <27462-3B07F8EF-277@storefull-244.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "whiteoakstudios" 's message of Sun, 20 May 2001 12:11:54 +0100 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: <8xE90B.A.rN.xj_B7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com 16 delay lines at same time.....you talking big money,no????? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 13:13:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01434; Sun, 20 May 2001 13:11:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 13:11:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 13:10:33 EDT Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ad.b2f1fd5.28395489_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_ad.b2f1fd5.28395489_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/20/01 12:04:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, KB305@aol.com writes: > Or trombone players?" > i shudder to think what trombone players do as a group, but im sure they often play together as do the guitarists.....myself being (most of the time) a "guitarist" would rather play with anything or anyone else rather than another guitarist.....it seldom happens though, it seems everyone "plays" the guitar in my very very small crowd of friends, it takes one to know one, perhaps.....one exception though, my #1 son ian has been working out "practicing" on turntables for a good while now so you could say there is a dj living in my house, we only "jamed" once, logistics prevents us from having all our toys in one room for a long period.....there were several times where i had jammed with a dj and a rapperesque vocalist and it was a lot-o-fun much noise going on.....ill play with anyone at any time!.....m --part1_ad.b2f1fd5.28395489_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/20/01 12:04:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, KB305@aol.com
writes:


Or trombone players?"


i shudder to think what trombone players do as a group, but im sure they
often play together as do the guitarists.....myself being (most of the time)
a "guitarist" would rather play with anything or anyone else rather than
another guitarist.....it seldom happens though, it seems everyone "plays" the
guitar in my very very small crowd of friends, it takes one to know one,
perhaps.....one exception though, my #1 son ian has been working out
"practicing" on turntables for a good while now so you could say there is a
dj living in my house, we only "jamed" once, logistics prevents us from
having all our toys in one room for a long period.....there were several
times where i had jammed with a dj and a rapperesque vocalist and it was a
lot-o-fun much noise going on.....ill play with anyone at any time!.....m --part1_ad.b2f1fd5.28395489_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 14:06:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA03764; Sun, 20 May 2001 14:04:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 14:04:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Delivered-To: fixup-Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com@fixme User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 11:00:16 -0700 Subject: Re: playing with DJ's From: Travis Hartnett To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200105200938.FAA16144@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3073201216_5448277_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3073201216_5448277_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit spgoodman@earthlight.net writes: >So far what I'm hearing is that of all the folks who have had good >situations with DJs, all of those DJs were also players of a musical >instrument. I was in a band with a DJ and a bassist for about a year, and the DJ/turntablist didn't play any conventional musical instruments, and he was a joy to play with. I've also played with several (3) who were impossible to play with, or maybe just more trouble than it was worth to me. The problem I had with them was that they left no space for anyone else, which I attributed to their being accustomed to providing all the sound in a performance, and perhaps a lack of listening. In these regards though, they were really no different from any other "audio decorator of sound space" (i.e. musicians), except in their chosen tools of production. TH -- NEW official Electrochakra website: www.electrochakra.com --MS_Mac_OE_3073201216_5448277_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: playing with DJ's
spgoodman@earthlight.ne= t writes:
>So far what I'm hearing is that of all the folks who have had good
>situations with DJs, all of those DJs were also players of a musical
      &nb= sp;>instrument.


I was in a band with a DJ and a bassist for about a year, and the DJ/turnta= blist didn't play any conventional musical instruments, and he was a joy to = play with.  I've also played with several (3) who were impossible to pl= ay with, or maybe just more trouble than it was worth to me.  The probl= em I had with them was that they left no space for anyone else, which I attr= ibuted to their being accustomed to providing all the sound in a performance= , and perhaps a lack of listening.  In these regards though, they were = really no different from any other "audio decorator of sound space"= ; (i.e. musicians), except in their chosen tools of production.  

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--MS_Mac_OE_3073201216_5448277_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 14:23:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04340; Sun, 20 May 2001 14:21:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 14:21:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <27462-3B07F8EF-277@storefull-244.iap.bryant.webtv.net> References: <27462-3B07F8EF-277@storefull-244.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 14:21:17 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: Fractal looping Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >16 delay lines at same time.....you talking big money,no????? my cheapsie little Boss SE-70 has a 20-tap flange so it's quite do-able without fancy hardware. in fact, you could have "as many taps as you liked" on a single delay line and not really consume very much CPU... /t ...electronic a cappella madness ......... ...extreme internet radio ... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 15:47:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA06843; Sun, 20 May 2001 15:43:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 15:43:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002601c0e10c$9ee8fbe0$0201a8c0@stephen> References: <20.16a75b79.28386914@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 12:41:27 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 2:09 AM -0700 5/20/01, Stephen P. Goodman wrote: > I was saying that the collaborative >dynamic is very, very different. When was the last time more than two DJs >got together in the same room to "play" together, anyway? > I see this all the time. The Invisibl Scratch Picklz have been doing group collaborative performances since the eighties I think. I've seen them all on stage together numerous times, putting on amazing shows just with turntables. It was all improvisational, trading things back and forth, different guys supporting the one who was soloing in different ways - jamming together. Very much like watching a bebop jazz combo, in fact. Qbert actually reminds me of Charlie Parker a lot, just different sounds in a different context. I guess you've never bothered to go out and actually see this stuff yourself, or never opened your mind to it, because it's very difficult NOT to think of these guys as musicians after seeing one of their shows or listening to their records. Go out and see for yourself. personally I found a lot of inspiration in turntablists lately that I haven't found from players of my own instrument in years. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 16:04:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA08704; Sun, 20 May 2001 16:02:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 16:02:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001101c0e10e$0d55ea60$48b51597@default> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 13:01:52 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: anybody using the Boss RC-20 yet Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Italo- I'm sorry that stuff is not up there yet. I do intend to put it up, but looper's delight is not a full time job for me and I don't always have time for much work on it. Lately I've been really behind. So I have to rely a lot on you guys to help me create the site. Sometimes I get a lot of help, and sometimes I don't. If somebody supplies me information on something, that is a great start. (as you have done for Orville.) But then it still has to wait for me to have time to put the pages together, which can often be a long wait! What is even more helpful is if somebody can do that step as well, and put together the html for me too so all I have to do is upload it. All I ask is that it be in the style of other LD pages with all the correct links. The LD style is kept very simple to make it easy for anybody to do this. remember, Looper's Delight is and always has been a community effort. That's what made it as good as it is. The more YOU contribute, the better it gets. If you leave it all up to me, it will suck. kim At 2:19 AM -0700 5/20/01, Italo De Angelis wrote: >Hi Kim >after long time I still don't see any Eventide Orville/DSP7000/DSP7500 page >on LD site since the long and very informative posts of long ago. >Still there are uninformative pages on discontinued products like 4000 and >3000 or on TC2290 & DOD boxes. >I guess 323 seconds of looping time, 174 seconds of real time >sampling/editing with indipendent time/pitch stretching, looping on 4,6,8, >12 or 16 delay lines at the same time, fractal looping, quad audio looping >and much more ARE a good thing to know for fellow loopers. >If you need any more infos, I'll be glad to send you anything you might >request on it. >Thank You >Best Italo > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kim Flint" >To: >Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 10:49 AM >Subject: anybody using the Boss RC-20 yet > > >> hey- >> >> is anybody using the Boss RC-20 yet? I guess it is shipping by now, >> although I've gotten conflicting stories about that. Since there are no >> greater gear sluts than those here on LD, I'm surprised we haven't heard >> any reviews yet! >> >> I want to put up a page for it on the Looper's Delight site if it is >> available, so I'd like to get user reviews from anybody that has actually >> used it. If that is you, please send something in! >> >> thanks, >> kim >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ >> Kim Flint | Looper's Delight >> kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com >> >> ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 16:28:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA09216; Sun, 20 May 2001 16:24:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 16:24:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010520095639.82846.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 13:23:48 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: anybody using the Boss RC-20 yet Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks John. What I really want though is more of a home-grown review, from people on LD experienced with looping and the various other loop products out there. Give it a little more depth than the "dude I plugged in my strat and it rocked!" style of reviews on HC.... any takers? thanks, kim At 2:56 AM -0700 5/20/01, John Tidwell wrote: >Kim, > >I've seen a few reviews over on HC. > >http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/Boss/RC_20_Loop_Station-01.html > >John > > >--- Kim Flint wrote: >> hey- >> >> is anybody using the Boss RC-20 yet? I guess it is >> shipping by now, >> although I've gotten conflicting stories about that. >> Since there are no >> greater gear sluts than those here on LD, I'm >> surprised we haven't heard >> any reviews yet! >> >> I want to put up a page for it on the Looper's >> Delight site if it is >> available, so I'd like to get user reviews from >> anybody that has actually >> used it. If that is you, please send something in! >> >> thanks, >> kim >> >> >______________________________________________________________________ >> Kim Flint | Looper's Delight >> kflint@loopers-delight.com | >> http://www.loopers-delight.com >> >> > > >===== >John Tidwell > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 17:12:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA11453; Sun, 20 May 2001 17:08:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 17:08:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 16:08:16 -0500 Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's From: Skye To: "Stephen P. Goodman" , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <002601c0e10c$9ee8fbe0$0201a8c0@stephen> Mime-version: 1.0 X-poopoo: yes Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6xo7Y.A.vyC.DJDC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello there > When was the last time more than two DJs > got together in the same room to "play" together, anyway? > As it has been mentioned, groups like the Skratch Piklz, the X-ecutioners, 1200 Hobos, etc. get together and play thogether using turtables as their instrument of choice- they have released many of records this way. As well, they all have videos availableon which they're just hanging out and "playing" the decks together. They will often have 6-8 turntables set up with many mixers, all playing off of each other in a beautifully complex structure... they have been known to perform publicly this way as well- if you have a chance to visit a live performance, it can be a very inspiring and astounding experience. They create some rhythmic structures that I would almost say are unique to their multi-turntablist format that twist and turn... wow. I can just say it must be seen. as well, as far a getting together in the same room to play together goes: I have done this _a lot_ in my times... we will be set up in a room, generally 3 or four turntables, 2 mixers... I like to throw in delays and loopy things as well. we have been known to jam for a long time. And I know other people locally who do the same, many of whom I have either played with already or mean to sometime in the future. I have seen this and I have played with others all over europe as well, so I know it's wide-spread. I will say, things like this aren't necessarily that widely known, and have just become much more common over the past few years. However, it does exist and it is musicaly rewarding for the players. it's styles vary as much as the people involved. I bet if you dig a little more into it- listen a bit deeper, you can hear it in a different light. Thanks for the time, Skye From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 17:45:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA11985; Sun, 20 May 2001 17:42:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 17:42:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 16:41:48 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <200105202141.f4KLflj18476@servidor.unam.mx> X-Sender: smaug@servidor.unam.mx X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Andy Soto Subject: Re: Fractal looping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id RAA11958 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I ´d like to know more! Andy At 12:11 p.m. 20/05/01 +0100, you wrote: >Hey Italo, >What's fractal looping ? Sounds interesting. > >Gareth > >>snip >looping on 4,6,8, >> 12 or 16 delay lines at the same time, fractal looping, quad audio looping >> and much more ARE a good thing to know for fellow loopers. >> If you need any more infos, I'll be glad to send you anything you might >> request on it. > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 17:45:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA11980; Sun, 20 May 2001 17:42:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 17:42:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAox6OQWw2jhmPnGZ9U+vIUby4XgkCFGS3LyJawITFA18sHM/Vts6VYyZL From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 17:42:06 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's Message-ID: <26178-3B083A2E-843@storefull-246.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Kim Flint 's message of Sun, 20 May 2001 12:41:27 -0700 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com but i still see a basic flaw being that nomatter how many hours a day the "turntablist"puts in to practicing his "instrument"ha ha, he/she is still working with some one elses musical creation.pushing a jimmy page album back and forth on a table ,by no stretch,makes you a guitar player or ,i should say ,a musician.to compare this to the talent of charlie parker.......at least the loopers are getting away from taking other peoples music and looping it and instead using generic sounds.... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 18:18:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13585; Sun, 20 May 2001 18:14:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 18:14:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 15:13:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Rik Elswit Message-Id: <200105202213.PAA07857@well.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: anybody using the Boss RC-20 yet Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "Rik In terms of operating the unit - how much can you do foot-only without climbing down and switchflicking - compared with the boomerang - reverse, layer, moving between different samples etc etc - I'm thinking in terms of stage use." There are sockets in the back where you can plug in extra foot switches to access the reverse function and to step through the saved loops. The unit comes with a CD of sample material you can load into it using a CD player plugged into a mini jack socket, also in the back of the machine. One of or rather three of the samples are an intro, verse loop, and outro for a 12-bar blues, which you load into consecutive memory locations and step through the sections using one of the extra pedals. I haven't tried it yet. My live work requires the multiply and undo functions, so I have to use the EDP when I'm playing out. The RC20 also has an interstng function for people with timing problems. You can tap a tempo into it, using the right pedal. this will give you a click track, complete with blinking light (so that you can turn off the sound and stilluse the function.) Once you've established the tempo, the RC20 gives you a 4 beat countoff after you step on the record pedal befor beginning to record. If you don't tap in a tempo, it begins recording when you step on the record pedal just like the other loopers. And as I said, if you find the pedal a bit stiff, there's an easy fix. The pedals are big and hard to miss. This has much bang for the buck. Rik From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 18:21:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13742; Sun, 20 May 2001 18:18:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 18:18:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00bc01c0e17a$b13e8c60$acccf7a5@com> From: "Alan Imberg" To: References: <200105200938.FAA16145@hemlock.violacea.com> <00b201c0e11b$07b45800$5d81e3a5@looppool> Subject: Re: playing with DJs Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 15:17:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I had a chance to see the Invisibl Skratch Piklz before they disbanded. I too felt that "turntablists" were not full-fledged musicians. However, after seeing those cats, my opinion changed completely. They exhibited a masterful knowledge of rythym and did techniques that I couldn't imagine as being possible. They obviously applied a level of discipline in learning and inventing their craft that most "real" musicians couldn't muster up. > Stephen wrote: > "Nope, a turntable isn't a musical instrument no matter how great it > sounds." > Also, check out the rhythm pyrotechnics of the Scratch Pickle. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 18:29:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA13978; Sun, 20 May 2001 18:26:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 18:26:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 17:26:10 -0500 Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's From: Skye To: , Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <26178-3B083A2E-843@storefull-246.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Mime-version: 1.0 X-poopoo: yes Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_LMXCB.A.7ZD.ESEC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Many of these people who are seen as the "charlie parkers" of the turntable world are _not_ limited to the simple "playback" of other people's music. >From the outside looking in, it might seem only that way. HOWEVER- for one, when they are usng jimmie page, they are using what, .5 of a second of a tone, and manipulating that tone into mew things... they aren't just spending time finding a riff to lift. the needle on the wax actually travels over very little space... As well, many of them sit down with samplers and synthesizers and things that they have recorded and they compile groups of sounds that they have created to vinyl, and these are what many of the most talented turntablists use when "scratching up new and exciting music." Why is there such an atttempt to deny deny deny the validity of what they are doing as a musical expression? Before everyone tries to formulate why they are s dismissable, perhas it would be good to actually know what is involved with the art... Often, when a new musical form is introduced, there is argument and discussion of why it isn't music, or it isn't valid. it happens with everything, and will continue to happen- it has probably happened to most of you at one time or anoter being loopers. What I don't see is why here there is such an attitude of dismissal- I would have expected a more open mindset here. Thank for the time, again... If any of that was unclear, I am sorry- I am rushed... skye on 5/20/01 4:42 PM, ko-jella@webtv.net thought someone wanted to read: > but i still see a basic flaw being that nomatter how many hours a day > the "turntablist"puts in to practicing his "instrument"ha ha, he/she is > still working with some one elses musical creation.pushing a jimmy page > album back and forth on a table ,by no stretch,makes you a guitar player > or ,i should say ,a musician.to compare this to the talent of charlie > parker.......at least the loopers are getting away from taking other > peoples music and looping it and instead using generic sounds.... > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 18:32:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA14095; Sun, 20 May 2001 18:29:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 18:29:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <012b01c0e17c$46f79980$acccf7a5@com> From: "Alan Imberg" To: References: <26178-3B083A2E-843@storefull-246.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 15:29:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Every turntablist I have seen has used vinyl primarily for rythmic purposes (i.e. scratching), rendering what ever was on the record unrecognizable. They use a variety of different records more for timberal and rythmic variation than for sampling purposes. ----- Original Message ----- From: "'b'bender" To: Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 2:42 PM Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's > but i still see a basic flaw being that nomatter how many hours a day > the "turntablist"puts in to practicing his "instrument"ha ha, he/she is > still working with some one elses musical creation.pushing a jimmy page > album back and forth on a table ,by no stretch,makes you a guitar player > or ,i should say ,a musician.to compare this to the talent of charlie > parker.......at least the loopers are getting away from taking other > peoples music and looping it and instead using generic sounds.... > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 18:38:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA14308; Sun, 20 May 2001 18:35:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 18:35:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAqBpbpta4ZN/rM+/mn6a5Xsd99JACFQCP+hWOrcKgt6qAq9cJj9siNZCMCA== From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 18:35:05 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's Message-ID: <28355-3B084699-1476@storefull-243.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "Alan Imberg" 's message of Sun, 20 May 2001 15:29:03 -0700 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com that.....i can get behind...its the others,the outright plagerists,that i was refering to From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 18:46:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA14527; Sun, 20 May 2001 18:45:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 18:45:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 15:44:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Rik Elswit Message-Id: <200105202244.PAA20321@well.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I was a real skeptic about turntablists until I saw a guy who calls himself DJ Quest. At one point he was running a four bar loop on one turntable and doing fills off the second one. It was just amazing, and infectiously danceable. After my shock wore off, I began to watch his hands very closely, and what I saw was the results of the same kind of practice I put in on my instrument. YOu can see it on great guitarists and keyboard players - economy of motion and grace. It was real clear to me that I was watching a musician. And my tapping toes didn't need convincing. I run an online music conference on the Well, and I hear a lot of musicians dissing entire genres. It's always a sign of ignorance. I say that there are no bad genres, just bad examples. If I take the time to familiarize myself with any from of music, I can alway find somebody playing it that reaches me. In fact, I usede to joke that there was probably a polka band out there that I'd love, but that I just hadn't heard them yet. Then someone sent me a tape of Polkacide and proved me right. As for how a person makes music, I'm only interested in an academic sense. It's what comes out of the speakers that matters most to me. And if you think that twin turntables is easy, you simply haven't seen a good turntablist. If you think it's cheating somehow, I suggest you stop using the preprogrammed harmonies we call chords on your guitar or keyboard. I mean, really. Em9 has been DONE. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 19:05:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA15970; Sun, 20 May 2001 19:04:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 19:04:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010520190238.007bd100@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 19:02:38 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's In-Reply-To: References: <26178-3B083A2E-843@storefull-246.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 05:26 PM 5/20/01 -0500, Skye wrote: >Why is there such an atttempt to deny deny deny the validity of >what they are doing as a musical expression? Before everyone tries to >formulate why they are s dismissable, perhas it would be good to actually >know what is involved with the art... I know in my case my prejudice in viewing turntablists as less creative than "real" musicians was simply because for a long time my only exposure to this technique was seeing really bad amateur scratchers ripping off the same bunch of beats, while someone tried to break-dance. After encountering a few really creative and musical DJs, though, I realized that this view was much like basing my opinion of guitarists on that kid in the music shop butchering the riff from "Sweet Child o' Mine" just a tad bit too loud. (It used to be 'Stairway', these days it's probably Korn or something...) As with any instrument, the really good players are greatly outnumbered by the wannabes. I wish Bill Murphy's liner notes for Bill Laswell's 'Altered Beats' were available online; he makes some comments about the turntable as an instrument that are germane to this thread, but it's waaaaay too much to transcribe... Tim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 19:28:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16355; Sun, 20 May 2001 19:26:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 19:26:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Message-Id: <200105202325.QAA22835@goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 16:26:28 -0700 Subject: Re: anybody using the Boss RC-20 yet To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <5UY6R.A.R_D.tJFC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com here is a question i havent seen answered concerning tempo-is there an input jack to take an incoming beat or click or is it just tap tempo-which tend to drift if you are playing to a machine metered beat/midi or whatever other? thanx to anyone who knows... stanner ---------- >The RC20 also has an interstng function for people with timing problems. >You can tap a tempo into it, using the right pedal. this will give you a >click track, complete with blinking light (so that you can turn off the >sound and stilluse the function.) Once you've established the tempo, the >RC20 gives you a 4 beat countoff after you step on the record pedal befor >beginning to record. If you don't tap in a tempo, it begins recording >when you step on the record pedal just like the other loopers. And as I >said, if you find the pedal a bit stiff, there's an easy fix. The pedals >are big and hard to miss. This has much bang for the buck. > >Rik > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 19:30:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16420; Sun, 20 May 2001 19:28:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 19:28:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [64.108.199.127] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 23:27:04 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 May 2001 23:27:04.0698 (UTC) FILETIME=[611395A0:01C0E184] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com



I am a Dj, and I am a Looper... Am I in Musical Limbo ? This thread has gone on too long, let's gripe about the Boss RC 20... it sux ! How about that SampleTrac 224 ? Who uses ACID 3.0, with the Midi file import ? Why are we trippin' on Dj's, and their collaboration, or non-collaboration with artist, most Dj's (including me at times}, just mix in mix out songs... unless you are a FatBoy Slim type ( I am aspiring to that level ), Dj's just regurgitate the music..... (I do it with style though).


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 19:30:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16421; Sun, 20 May 2001 19:28:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 19:28:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAkDtU14I/ZxAo5GJwN0AQB0PsKmwCFQCS6ju7N5gEJC8+mibccN6DQdAauQ== From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 19:27:40 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's Message-ID: <29145-3B0852EC-535@storefull-245.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Rik Elswit 's message of Sun, 20 May 2001 15:44:48 -0700 (PDT) Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com and it will keep being done in a thousand different ways........why????Because it sounds so darn pleasing to the ear AND the heart,AND the mind.You make a valid point there......where will this "new" "music" be in 50 years???People wont even know what youre talking about,but Em9........awwwwwww,theyll know how that makes em feel ,cause itll is eternal.Thats just how it is....new things come.New things go.Only true beauty endures....................new and good are two entirely different concepts.beauty endures,like Em9!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 19:49:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA16959; Sun, 20 May 2001 19:43:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 19:43:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 16:43:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Rik Elswit Message-Id: <200105202343.QAA09606@well.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Another experience that altered what I thought about music making was watching a 5 person do-wop vocal group, must've been in 86 or 87, being accompanied by a guy with a Roland TR707 drum machine. But the "drummer" wasn't using the sequencer. He had it cradled in the crook of his left arm and was playing the buttons live with his right hand. And he was hot. He was in a world of his own making and just rocking with that thing. I wasn't about to tellhim he was doing it wrong. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 19:49:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA17007; Sun, 20 May 2001 19:46:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 19:46:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRKFzJD49xUXSQd2WxH6WxHQAHJmwIUVKBfmD5v5sWwc+dY2tuG6fEfpbI= From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 19:46:12 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's Message-ID: <29144-3B085744-791@storefull-245.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Tim Nelson 's message of Sun, 20 May 2001 19:02:38 -0400 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tim ;;i think you hit the nail on the head!!! Also you had a situation that built up for decades where musicians had trouble earning a living because a bar owner would rather pay a guy to play records than hire real ,line musicians.I know this last one isnt fair cause the guy playing albums is not the same guy we are talking about on this forum....but old prejudices die hard..Also you have the "RAP" contingent who think they are doing something "new" but those of us who are old enough to have been around back "when" still remember a group on the "Performance" soundtrack in 1969 who called themselves the "LAST POETS" ....That was 69!!! Then you had Bob Dylan's "Johnny's in the basement mixin up the medicine,I'm on the pavement talkin bout the government,,man in a trenchcoat,badge ,got layed off ,wants a hundred dollar bill,says he gets payed off"etc etc ......When was that????1964 ,Ide say.......NEW?????? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 19:55:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA17262; Sun, 20 May 2001 19:52:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 19:52:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002801c0e188$8089f2e0$c8b99318@ne.mediaone.net> From: "Luden" To: "whiteoakstudios" , References: <000201c0e14d$b013e880$32886fd4@dolly> Subject: Re: Fractal looping Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 19:56:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Is looping on 2 delays considered Fractal looping? ----- Original Message ----- From: "whiteoakstudios" To: Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 7:11 AM Subject: Re: Fractal looping > Hey Italo, > What's fractal looping ? Sounds interesting. > > Gareth > > >snip > looping on 4,6,8, > > 12 or 16 delay lines at the same time, fractal looping, quad audio looping > > and much more ARE a good thing to know for fellow loopers. > > If you need any more infos, I'll be glad to send you anything you might > > request on it. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 20:05:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA18561; Sun, 20 May 2001 20:02:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 20:02:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 17:01:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Rik Elswit Message-Id: <200105210001.RAA03793@well.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com First "rap" tune I ever heard was "The All-American Boy", a talking blues to a rock beat that got played to death on American Bandstand in the late 50s. The during the Great Folk Music Scare in the early 60s, I found out that Woody Guthrie had written a number of tunes in that form and that "The All-American Boy" was part of that tradition. And Bob Dylan carried it on. Hell, Cab Calloway used to rap over his swing band back in the 30s. Ain't nothin new about talking over dance tracks. It's an old and honorable tradition. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 20:08:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA18666; Sun, 20 May 2001 20:05:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 20:05:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAvFot1Gm++g9Vhyd7Yzdj5IfAgsECFAM/ePWsksCTEDC4MLGR15YFCwzv From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 20:05:28 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Fractal looping Message-ID: <29147-3B085BC8-243@storefull-245.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "Luden" 's message of Sun, 20 May 2001 19:56:29 -0400 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: <-5O6gB.A.ijE.JvFC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ide like to know...thats why i really came over.also this should be the place to find out the pros and cons of eventide,lexicon,TR707s,etc.,and unique ways of using them....just the other day for something to do,i wanted to see if i could still make the old style analog loops we used to make around '62 with two machines.....i took 2 Tandberg 64 Xs and put one on each side of the room,with a gibson echoplex in the middle.no digital stuff at all!!!Talk about fun,,.....AND the sound was awsome!!!(64x was a top of the line machine) the specs are stillup there....Even without the echoplex you can vary the echo repeats by changing the didtance between machines...I felt like Les Paul must have felt back when..... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 20:08:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA18695; Sun, 20 May 2001 20:07:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 20:07:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQaviAqhVlgkZ9ACxRUO6py8YID3gIUcyprvPHu/2HxbT2YWO+BKH7At70= From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 20:06:52 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's Message-ID: <29137-3B085C1C-1404@storefull-245.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Rik Elswit 's message of Sun, 20 May 2001 17:01:42 -0700 (PDT) Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com amen,bro. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 20:56:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA19626; Sun, 20 May 2001 20:54:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 20:54:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: RA336@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 20:53:01 EDT Subject: Re: DJ or Musician? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 114 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi everybody... since I already posted a minute or two back about the fabulous djQuest and his superbly integrated group (Live Human) with whom I had the pleasure of sharing a string of dates last fall allow me to throw 2 more cents in; [switch to late-night tv announcer voice here:] DJ... or... MUSICIAN... ...*yawn*... -click. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 22:29:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA22974; Sun, 20 May 2001 22:27:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 22:27:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [203.12.166.29] From: "Gary Waters" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:26:03 +0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2001 02:26:03.0585 (UTC) FILETIME=[61F3B310:01C0E19D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is f*#kin strange, >ah how right you are. I am in total agreement, however I have to say >that DJs that cue up and crossfade someone else's prerecorded music, >really don't in my mind belong in the same group as those that really >deconstruct and collage music to make it a totally new thing. I had a >chance to hear and talk to DJ Spooky, and he was amazing. Very smart, >and great at his craft. Now there is a musician. > >A playlist isn't called a >song, because it isn't. I'm havin this on three different groups ATM! I came up with this really interesting analogy : Take Micheal Jordan. He did things with a basketball that nobody ever did before. He was the best player of his generation by miles. You could kinda say he raised basketball to an "ARTFORM", right? Does that make basketball an art? Does that make me an artist because I play basketball? I think not!! Just because DJ Spooky could be described as a "MUSICIAN", it doesn't automatically mean that ALL DJ's are MUSICIANS. Not by any logical structure I've ever seen! I'm not passing comment on any individuals here, because I have never heard many of you play b4, or checked out your original stuff either. I can mix, as well as having started writing my own music, and I don't consider myself a MUSICIAN, because I still cant play a MUSICAL INSTRUMENT. I think the musician/good DJ thing is more that musicians will automatically understand what is required. Some(?) DJ's aren't really even aware of scale and key to a great extent, and this could be a bit of a problem, yeah? It's always gonna be hard finding a really, really good DJ because they all DJ a lot! Funny that! I saw this in a magazine and thought it's pretty appropriate : "Basically what I'm really trying to say here is DJ is basically an antiquated throwback name for something that really cant be defined in one word. Therefore I put forth three new categories derived from the originally covered group : DJ : Radio DJ, guy and a chick with microphones, radio style presentation (Mainstrem commercial radio, in club form the over 30's kinda place with the guy on stage with give-aways, and LOTS of re-mixed pop cheese) CP (Cut and paster) : The guy who mixes at your local house club, the DJ mixes smoothly from one song to another all night, but nothing more adventurous than that! Might drop the killer tunes, but does so in a very predictable and boring way. DM (disc master, vinyl or CD) : The DJ who takes three copies of the same tune and makes something completely different out of it in the mix. The DJ who pitches all his records to 135 bpm and sees exactly what key there in and catologs them all, so he can actually play in key!" Gaz P.S. It was a fairly sarcastic article. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 22:57:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA23679; Sun, 20 May 2001 22:56:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 22:56:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "omjn" To: Subject: RE: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:54:58 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I just don't get what all this is about. As far as I can tell, the question is, "do the actions of DJ's produce music?". Obviously, putting questions of taste aside, the answer is yes. It seems then, that this debate is not so much about music production and instrumentalism, but ownership and intellectual property issues. If that is the case, how many traditional instrumentalists can honestly say that every riff, chord or finger permutation, or every rhythm they make is 100% original or their own and therefore not open to the same questions of authenticity? aside from this, however, i'm reading a prallel to this at the moment in debate about artificial life. the pro Alife team says well we can make something that satisifies all the qualities the other team regards as defining life. The other team hears this and just says well stuff you, we just changed the definition. Such is the trickiness of static categories in a dynamic humanity, i guess omjn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 23:32:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA25210; Sun, 20 May 2001 23:31:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 23:31:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "matt davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 20:30:36 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2001 03:30:36.0398 (UTC) FILETIME=[665410E0:01C0E1A6] Resent-Message-ID: <9MlR0.A.wJG.evIC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I believe that the the act of crossfading/beatmatching dance songs together, while certainly being something that takes a large amount of practice and skill, doesn't make you any more of a musician than the curator of an art exhibit is an artist. However, to say it's not a musical instrument is silly. We all know that's up to the National Committee of Musical Instrument Determination (NACMID). Last I knew, they were still arguing whether electric guitars were able to make anything other than "horrible awful Satan-noise," so it could take a while before they get around to answering the question at hand. >I think the musician/good DJ thing is more that musicians will >automatically >understand what is required. Some(?) DJ's aren't really even aware of scale >and key to a great extent, and this could be a bit of a problem, yeah? So are people who create music from finding/making up things that just sound good together no longer musicians? Are compositions/improvisations that work outside of centuries-old musical rules simply not music anymore? Matt >From: "Gary Waters" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song >Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:26:03 +0800 > >This is f*#kin strange, > >>ah how right you are. I am in total agreement, however I have to say >>that DJs that cue up and crossfade someone else's prerecorded music, >>really don't in my mind belong in the same group as those that really >>deconstruct and collage music to make it a totally new thing. I had a >>chance to hear and talk to DJ Spooky, and he was amazing. Very smart, >>and great at his craft. Now there is a musician. >> >>A playlist isn't called a >>song, because it isn't. > >I'm havin this on three different groups ATM! > >I came up with this really interesting analogy : > >Take Micheal Jordan. > >He did things with a basketball that nobody ever did before. >He was the best player of his generation by miles. >You could kinda say he raised basketball to an "ARTFORM", right? > >Does that make basketball an art? Does that make me an artist because I >play >basketball? I think not!! > >Just because DJ Spooky could be described as a "MUSICIAN", it doesn't >automatically mean that ALL DJ's are MUSICIANS. Not by any logical >structure >I've ever seen! > >I'm not passing comment on any individuals here, because I have never heard >many of you play b4, or checked out your original stuff either. >I can mix, as well as having started writing my own music, and I don't >consider myself a MUSICIAN, because I still cant play a MUSICAL INSTRUMENT. > >I think the musician/good DJ thing is more that musicians will >automatically >understand what is required. Some(?) DJ's aren't really even aware of scale >and key to a great extent, and this could be a bit of a problem, yeah? > >It's always gonna be hard finding a really, really good DJ because they all >DJ a lot! Funny that! > >I saw this in a magazine and thought it's pretty appropriate : > >"Basically what I'm really trying to say here is DJ is basically an >antiquated throwback name for something that really cant be defined in one >word. Therefore I put forth three new categories derived from the >originally >covered group : > >DJ : Radio DJ, guy and a chick with microphones, radio style presentation >(Mainstrem commercial radio, in club form the over 30's kinda place with >the >guy on stage with give-aways, and LOTS of re-mixed pop cheese) > >CP (Cut and paster) : The guy who mixes at your local house club, the DJ >mixes smoothly from one song to another all night, but nothing more >adventurous than that! Might drop the killer tunes, but does so in a very >predictable and boring way. > >DM (disc master, vinyl or CD) : The DJ who takes three copies of the same >tune and makes something completely different out of it in the mix. The DJ >who pitches all his records to 135 bpm and sees exactly what key there in >and catologs them all, so he can actually play in key!" > > >Gaz > >P.S. It was a fairly sarcastic article. >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 20 23:38:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA25351; Sun, 20 May 2001 23:37:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 23:37:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQEI1H4PVByxka4/qloNHEVWErueAIUTs0Vz7oOwaM8N/WQlT/Dw2qC4Ac= From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 23:37:01 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song Message-ID: <29146-3B088D5D-556@storefull-245.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "omjn" 's message of Mon, 21 May 2001 10:54:58 +0800 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com yes...best to just keep smilin and talk to the people who interest you intellectually and humourously joe "Do What Thou Wilt,Shall Be the Whole Of the Law" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 05:33:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA03534; Mon, 21 May 2001 05:31:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 05:31:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:31:12 -0700 Subject: DJs/Turntablists etc.... From: Steve Lawson To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >>>I know in my case my prejudice in viewing turntablists as less creative than "real" musicians was simply because for a long time my only exposure to this technique was seeing really bad amateur scratchers ripping off the same bunch of beats, while someone tried to break-dance.<<< But was that just because, as a style it was underdeveloped - early Rock 'n' Roll sounds incredibly unsophisticated now - there's a certain naive charm to Bill Hailey and The Everly Brothers, but it's not the height of creativity now, even though at the time it was considered rather risque :o) the turntable stuff that came out in the late 70s/early 80s was, as far as I can, the most radical and empowering shift in popular music culture since... well, probably in the history of pop... The shift that has taken place in so-called 'art' music, from note-autonomy to a sound-based musical ethic that validated ambience, tape music, natural sounds and synth sounds hasn't really impacted 'pop' music - the progsters and such like who did make advances in this way were as much a part of the 20thC 'classical' tradition as they were pop. But hip-hop and the sampling revolution, and the use of turntables as a way of recycling prerecorded material to make the building blocks available to rap over the top of was a radical rethinking of pop music, and it was a street level thing, borne as much out of neccessity it seems - kids in inner city new york with a whole heap of creativity but not access to the studios that were required to make the music they were listening to (this wasn't really a 'guitars round the campfire' culture!), worked out a way to use records in a creative way, recycling and recombining pre-recorded sounds in a new way, giving the world a new approach to rhythm (drummers play so differently now in this age of sampling and cut 'n' paste music), and a new way of looking at the importance of harmony. One of the wonderful things with turntables and sampling is that the strangle-hold of 'functional harmony' in pop had gone - samples that clashed harmonically were still combined if it just 'worked' sonically - sound won and theory took a beating. I know that my own looping philosophy is hugely influenced by that whole elevation of sound idea... there are some unbelieveably creative turntablists out there, and some rubbish ones. Some DJ Shadows and some muppets who crap on great records (though whether or not what Puff Daddy and Will Smith do is 'valid' or not is really not for me to say - I do like Will's moves though... :o) musical revolution started by inner city black kids? surely not! Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 08:39:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA08276; Mon, 21 May 2001 08:37:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 08:37:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 08:35:44 EDT Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <86EcD.A.FBC.LvQC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com kflint@loopers-delight.com writes: >personally I found >a lot of inspiration in turntablists lately that I haven't found from >players of my own instrument in years. same, here. best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 09:06:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA09765; Mon, 21 May 2001 09:04:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:04:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <29.15196c44.283a6c16@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:03:18 EDT Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <4CIrJD.A.XYC.DJRC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ko-jella@webtv.net writes: >but i still see a basic flaw being that nomatter how many hours a day >the "turntablist"puts in to practicing his "instrument"ha ha, he/she is >still working with some one elses musical creation.pushing a jimmy page >album back and forth on a table ,by no stretch,makes you a guitar player >or ,i should say ,a musician sorry; that's just ridiculous. follows my unwanted suggestions to some folks on this list (who are, most likely, guitar players): get outta the house; go hear some music that ye haven't heard yet. buy some new cd's/vinyls, ones that ye normally wouldn't, & listen to 'em. spend just one occasional day thinking about yer instrument as an unknown object, but play with it, anyway. open it up, thas'all: just open it up: forget all the pedagogic tripe, including this bullshit that i'm spewing. >to compare this to the talent of charlie >parker.......at least the loopers are getting away from taking other >peoples music and looping it and instead using generic sounds.... dude / dudesse: this is really ignorant; please take a sharp look at yer use of the word 'generic', in regards to your own 'music creation'. what's the big difference, when 'emulation' is the basis for 'creation'? and, after all..... after looking at the references in yer previous post..... well, warren haynes ain't no charlie parker, neither. 'sliding yer fingers up & down the strings trying to repeat the previous 'musical creations' of jimmy page (or whomever) does not make you a guitar player, erm, musician'. best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 09:08:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA09888; Mon, 21 May 2001 09:07:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:07:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:06:06 EDT Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com skza@nabi.net writes: >What I don't see is why here there >is such an attitude of dismissal- I would have expected a more open mindset >here. me, too. dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 09:19:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA10064; Mon, 21 May 2001 09:18:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:18:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <8.149d797b.283a6f7e@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:17:50 EDT Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ko-jella@webtv.net writes: >beauty endures,like Em9!! my experience of beauty is not limited to Em9. dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 09:29:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA10452; Mon, 21 May 2001 09:28:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:28:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:26:46 EDT Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ko-jella@webtv.net writes: >"Do What Thou Wilt,Shall Be the Whole Of the Law" crowley's so-called 'law' (!ha!) does not apply to any except those who accept its consequences. dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 09:43:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA10838; Mon, 21 May 2001 09:41:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:41:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <007f01c0e1fb$7f552020$d4b51597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: References: <27462-3B07F8EF-277@storefull-244.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Fractal looping Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:39:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com For all of you interested in Fractal Looping, this is a multi lines technique of looping. The idea is to have a main looping line with, say, 3 more lines. The fractal relation between them is about time length of loops: it will be set in a way to get polyrhythms between different copies of the same audio material. For instance, I might loop 4 bars of audio, in 4/4 at 130bpm; then I might choose that a second looper will repeat a 2 bars truncated audio portion of the original, a third looper will repeat 11/8 of the original loop and a fouth one maybe 5/8 or a dotted 1/2. Usually I build also tap tempo lfos that will pan the four loops around in quad audio, according to the same rhythmic values or to different ones, in a circle, or cross or whatever other pattern or even randomly. I can also use pitch shifters that will transpose monophonic loops to presets intervals (or chords) according to the same rhythmic values. At the same time Orville allows me to pre AND post process all those loops with dedicated AND common fx, like ring modulators, modulatable filters, chorus, flanger, phaser, shifters, verbs, reverse shifters, reverse delays, reverbs, lo-fi manglers and ANYthing else I might think of. I can also sample the whole thing in real time, edit it to change speed, pitch or both, process the sample with FX...all in one 24bit box, with 4 minutes and 23 seconds of audio memory TOTALLY addressable by delay style loopers and samplers. Programs can have almost unlimited number of looping lines, form 1 up to a couple of dozens...if you really want to get THAT crazy. Tom, SE70 is a VERY cool box but...forget this applications, we're talking OPEN system here, meaning the user can totally configure the box in ANY way, building algorithms on the unit or on a PC with Vsig, Eventide's graphical editor freeware. If you all want to know more about the power AND the freedom of Eventides, you can download manuals from www.eventide.com and follow the VERY active Eventide users list on Yahoo. Post message: eventide-users@yahoogroups.com Subscribe: eventide-users-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: eventide-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com List owner: eventide-users-owner@yahoogroups.com URL to this page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eventide-users Best regards.........Italoop ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Ritchford" To: Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 8:21 PM Subject: Re: Fractal looping > >16 delay lines at same time.....you talking big money,no????? > > my cheapsie little Boss SE-70 has a 20-tap flange so it's > quite do-able without fancy hardware. > > in fact, you could have "as many taps as you liked" on a > single delay line and not really consume very much CPU... > > /t > > > ...electronic a cappella madness ......... > ...extreme internet radio ... > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 09:48:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA11022; Mon, 21 May 2001 09:46:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:46:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: RA336@aol.com Message-ID: <14.14774dba.283a75f1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:45:21 EDT Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 114 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 5/21/01 8:28:11 AM EST, Hedewa7@aol.com writes: > ko-jella@webtv.net writes: > >"Do What Thou Wilt,Shall Be the Whole Of the Law" > crowley's so-called 'law' (!ha!) does not apply to any except those who > accept its consequences. > dt / s-c > - crowley ie: junkie, madman... decent novelist; weird human tho... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 09:51:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA11168; Mon, 21 May 2001 09:49:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:49:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:46:25 +0200 Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <151q3V-1Vdyd6C@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id JAA11128 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The actual discussion about the DJ stuff amuses me a little bit. At least I have no problems or an invisible border in my brain,to work together with a DJ.Maybe in a band,maybe a saideman or maybe the DJ as sideman. I trace myself as a musican who plays mainly guitar.But some would say,this guy is not a real guitarist,because he uses so many FX/devices and his sound is not the standard E-guitarsound we used to know from a Strat/Paula directly to the Marshall Amp.Oh yeah,if this should be the relation I am really not a guitarist. In the guitar world we had and have enough debates about Tube or Transistor, Paula or Strat,now Vitual Pod front against analog Stompboxes and so and on.... At least it is not a debate about music,it is only a debate about technology to realize an audio artwork. I have listened to a lot of DJ´s who were really only the Master of a programme list. But I have also listened to a lot of guitarists who played down only the score. Another question is,if a member of a symphony orchestra(a Basson player for examole) could be called a musican.He plays also only fixed material from a fixed score. At least a programme list.Would you call him a Non-Musican ? I guess not. Let us take a view to the composer side.I like Maurice Ravel a lot,because of his wonderful and colourful instrumentation.He was original a Pianoplayer.So he was a piano musican.As composer he was able to expand this ideas from piano to a big Symphony Orchestra.Maurice was not a trained musican for each single instrument of an orchestra.Nevertheless he was able to tease out all this wonderful colourings from a piano part. From the piano part alone,you can not hear the version for symphony orchestra.It needs the imagination and artistic spirit to tranform a piano part to an extrordianry Orchestra part.Listen to Daphins and Cloe or the "Pictures of an exhibition".Pictures was composed by Modest Mussorgsky for Piano,Maurice Ravel did the instrumentation for it. In a non correct way I could easy claim,that Maurice was an early pre-electronic DJ. Like evry other piano player who composed for orchestra. The DJ question is a little worse.Most people think of DJ,that he is someone who spools down a playlist,with some funny comments.Well,a Radio DJ for example. This is a basic form. The next step is the DJ,who uses his sound sources for some easy soundmanipulating. Like scratching.The mass of +30 people will think immidiately of breakdance. A prejudice..... But for a generation before,all guitar heroes were in their mind,Hippies on speed. Also a prejudice..... Around 1955 we had to schools in Europe.The electronic Studio in Cologne,with its additive synthesis sound(Stockhuasen,Koenig...) and the Musique Concrete in Paris (Pierre Schaeffer....),the Paris-studio worked a lot with real sounds and the pre aera of Vinyl.So it could be traced as the pre-sampling and DJ phase. They used sonic material to manipulate already existing sounds,so they would get in another musical context. Later on such manipulation was determined as "Life-electronic",with bandloops and early synth.-gear. It was never a question,that the "Life Electronic" guy,was mentioned as musican. The nowadays DJ is a musican.Life electronic made an evolution.Hardware made big steps in development.Like once and still on for the E-guitar. A DJ has totally different possibilities to a "Old school" musican.A DJ will seldom reach the musicality vision of an E-guitartit.Otherwise an E-guitarist will never seldom reach the optimum of a DJ. An E-guitarist will also seldom reach the acoustic guitar heaven.Like otherwise. A good DJ has discovered with his experience and individual insights a world of new musical textures,like an E-guitarist who has been busy for years,or a Basoonist. A bad DJ will be a bad DJ,a bad guitarist will be a bad guitarist,a bad basoonist will be a bad basoonist. If we would be really strict musicans,then we should leave our fingers from all artifical instruments.The only natural instrument we all own is our voice. So we have to open a big barber shop.Well,the voice is very flexible. Each other instrument is artifical.Or have you ever seen a Violintree ? A massive problem is the question of the copyright.Most DJs use a real short frag form existing material,so that it will not be recognized,where it really was from. A lot of guitar players use little licks and riffs,wich were played so many times before.But they sat it into a different context,so that the origin context is not listenable anymore. Ripping off is not a new way,a lot of musican before us ripped of the little licks form preexisting material,to a new context. If we were really strict,each musican has to pay royalities to the one,who invented the musical system of twelve tones per octave.Or stranger,Harry partch who would have been this year 100 years old,had invented a 43 steps scale through an octave. Each time you reach his frequency,you must pay royality. :_) Such discussion makes no sense,like the discussion if a DJ is a musican or not. Of course there are plenty of so called DJs out,where we only can fart...... But there enough other instrumentalists out,where we can fart...a lot. There is no good or bad music outside.There is only music we like or dislike. This is and will be always an individual decison. At the end,it is not interesting for me,how the music was produced,wich came so close to my heart,that I will call an acoustic sound MUSIC. It is only important,that this music had touched me,for whatever reasons. Marty From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 10:24:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13166; Mon, 21 May 2001 10:22:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:22:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:19:42 +0200 Subject: Re: Fractal looping From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <151qZh-1PhV5sC@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fortunately now a better description of "Fractional Looping".I was not sure,if it was only meant for one special device,so I kept quiet. >From that,what Italo described,I labeled this way of looping as "Poly-Looping" for my own looping. As I use also RingModulation and Frequencyshaping devices in my guitar gear,fractional looping has another sense to me. ;-) I use now up to eight loop devices,wich can establisch up to 12 seconds of looping.This all is switched to a fexible rooting board.A kind of footpedal mixing console. The for me intersiting way of playing with such odd loops is the polyrhythmic experience. For a Stereo Setup it means,left looping device has 12 seconds of delay,the right 11 seconds. Both with adjusted regenaration,wich can be expanded or compressed in realtime. The fluctuation of sound will be surprisingNow multiply it with eight sources with different settings in time.The result will be always new and surprising. Only with such a delay section,you can bring a simple guitar to an incredible PAD-sound. But when you use afterwards some Ringmodulation or other synth related Waveformshaping the result will be always new. But fractional delaying is a playfield,wich needs strong nerves.It is like a blank sheet of paper. Once you started with it,it will get an own life. It can be polyrhythmical,it can also be a PAD-sound changing extremly.Real a fine way to experience new sounds.Harmonically or Rhythmically.It depends on you.The field is wide open. Well,this works also for other instruments. Marty ---------- >Von: "Italo De Angelis" >An: >Betreff: Re: Fractal looping >Datum: Mon, 21. Mai 2001 15:39 Uhr > >For all of you interested in Fractal Looping, this is a multi lines >technique of looping. The idea is to have a main looping line with, say, 3 >more lines. The fractal relation between them is about time length of loops: >it will be set in a way to get polyrhythms between different copies of the >same audio material. For instance, I might loop 4 bars of audio, in 4/4 at >130bpm; then I might choose that a second looper will repeat a 2 bars >truncated audio portion of the original, a third looper will repeat 11/8 of >the original loop and a fouth one maybe 5/8 or a dotted 1/2. Usually I build >also tap tempo lfos that will pan the four loops around in quad audio, >according to the same rhythmic values or to different ones, in a circle, or >cross or whatever other pattern or even randomly. I can also use pitch >shifters that will transpose monophonic loops to presets intervals (or >chords) according to the same rhythmic values. At the same time Orville >allows me to pre AND post process all those loops with dedicated AND common >fx, like ring modulators, modulatable filters, chorus, flanger, phaser, >shifters, verbs, reverse shifters, reverse delays, reverbs, lo-fi manglers >and ANYthing else I might think of. >I can also sample the whole thing in real time, edit it to change speed, >pitch or both, process the sample with FX...all in one 24bit box, with 4 >minutes and 23 seconds of audio memory TOTALLY addressable by delay style >loopers and samplers. >Programs can have almost unlimited number of looping lines, form 1 up to a >couple of dozens...if you really want to get THAT crazy. Tom, SE70 is a VERY >cool box but...forget this applications, we're talking OPEN system here, >meaning the user can totally configure the box in ANY way, building >algorithms on the unit or on a PC with Vsig, Eventide's graphical editor >freeware. If you all want to know more about the power AND the freedom of >Eventides, you can download manuals from www.eventide.com and follow the >VERY active Eventide users list on Yahoo. >Post message: eventide-users@yahoogroups.com >Subscribe: eventide-users-subscribe@yahoogroups.com >Unsubscribe: eventide-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com >List owner: eventide-users-owner@yahoogroups.com >URL to this page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eventide-users > >Best regards.........Italoop > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Tom Ritchford" >To: >Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 8:21 PM >Subject: Re: Fractal looping > > >> >16 delay lines at same time.....you talking big money,no????? >> >> my cheapsie little Boss SE-70 has a 20-tap flange so it's >> quite do-able without fancy hardware. >> >> in fact, you could have "as many taps as you liked" on a >> single delay line and not really consume very much CPU... >> >> /t >> >> >> ...electronic a cappella madness ......... >> ...extreme internet radio ... >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 10:31:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13384; Mon, 21 May 2001 10:29:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:29:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001501c0e202$2e428fe0$a8ad1597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: References: <151qZh-1PhV5sC@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> Subject: Re: Fractal looping Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:27:33 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ...and think you can do THIS all with just ONE POWERFUL unit, MARTIN ! ! ! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Tauchen" To: Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 4:19 PM Subject: Re: Fractal looping > Fortunately now a better description of "Fractional Looping".I was not > sure,if it was only > meant for one special device,so I kept quiet. > > From that,what Italo described,I labeled this way of looping as > "Poly-Looping" for my own looping. > As I use also RingModulation and Frequencyshaping devices in my guitar > gear,fractional looping > has another sense to me. ;-) > > I use now up to eight loop devices,wich can establisch up to 12 seconds of > looping.This all is > switched to a fexible rooting board.A kind of footpedal mixing console. > > The for me intersiting way of playing with such odd loops is the > polyrhythmic experience. > For a Stereo Setup it means,left looping device has 12 seconds of delay,the > right 11 seconds. > Both with adjusted regenaration,wich can be expanded or compressed in > realtime. > The fluctuation of sound will be surprisingNow multiply it with eight > sources with different > settings in time.The result will be always new and surprising. > Only with such a delay section,you can bring a simple guitar to an > incredible PAD-sound. > But when you use afterwards some Ringmodulation or other synth related > Waveformshaping the result > will be always new. > > But fractional delaying is a playfield,wich needs strong nerves.It is like a > blank sheet of paper. > Once you started with it,it will get an own life. > It can be polyrhythmical,it can also be a PAD-sound changing extremly.Real a > fine way to experience > new sounds.Harmonically or Rhythmically.It depends on you.The field is wide > open. > Well,this works also for other instruments. > > Marty > > > > > > > > > ---------- > >Von: "Italo De Angelis" > >An: > >Betreff: Re: Fractal looping > >Datum: Mon, 21. Mai 2001 15:39 Uhr > > > > >For all of you interested in Fractal Looping, this is a multi lines > >technique of looping. The idea is to have a main looping line with, say, 3 > >more lines. The fractal relation between them is about time length of loops: > >it will be set in a way to get polyrhythms between different copies of the > >same audio material. For instance, I might loop 4 bars of audio, in 4/4 at > >130bpm; then I might choose that a second looper will repeat a 2 bars > >truncated audio portion of the original, a third looper will repeat 11/8 of > >the original loop and a fouth one maybe 5/8 or a dotted 1/2. Usually I build > >also tap tempo lfos that will pan the four loops around in quad audio, > >according to the same rhythmic values or to different ones, in a circle, or > >cross or whatever other pattern or even randomly. I can also use pitch > >shifters that will transpose monophonic loops to presets intervals (or > >chords) according to the same rhythmic values. At the same time Orville > >allows me to pre AND post process all those loops with dedicated AND common > >fx, like ring modulators, modulatable filters, chorus, flanger, phaser, > >shifters, verbs, reverse shifters, reverse delays, reverbs, lo-fi manglers > >and ANYthing else I might think of. > >I can also sample the whole thing in real time, edit it to change speed, > >pitch or both, process the sample with FX...all in one 24bit box, with 4 > >minutes and 23 seconds of audio memory TOTALLY addressable by delay style > >loopers and samplers. > >Programs can have almost unlimited number of looping lines, form 1 up to a > >couple of dozens...if you really want to get THAT crazy. Tom, SE70 is a VERY > >cool box but...forget this applications, we're talking OPEN system here, > >meaning the user can totally configure the box in ANY way, building > >algorithms on the unit or on a PC with Vsig, Eventide's graphical editor > >freeware. If you all want to know more about the power AND the freedom of > >Eventides, you can download manuals from www.eventide.com and follow the > >VERY active Eventide users list on Yahoo. > >Post message: eventide-users@yahoogroups.com > >Subscribe: eventide-users-subscribe@yahoogroups.com > >Unsubscribe: eventide-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > >List owner: eventide-users-owner@yahoogroups.com > >URL to this page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eventide-users > > > >Best regards.........Italoop > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Tom Ritchford" > >To: > >Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 8:21 PM > >Subject: Re: Fractal looping > > > > > >> >16 delay lines at same time.....you talking big money,no????? > >> > >> my cheapsie little Boss SE-70 has a 20-tap flange so it's > >> quite do-able without fancy hardware. > >> > >> in fact, you could have "as many taps as you liked" on a > >> single delay line and not really consume very much CPU... > >> > >> /t > >> > >> > >> ...electronic a cappella madness ......... > >> ...extreme internet radio ... > >> > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 10:40:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13569; Mon, 21 May 2001 10:38:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:38:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B0943DC.E98FD681@vtx.ch> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:35:40 +0000 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Fractal looping References: <151qZh-1PhV5sC@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> <001501c0e202$2e428fe0$a8ad1597@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Italo De Angelis wrote: > > ...and think you can do THIS all with just ONE POWERFUL unit, MARTIN ! ! ! > Italo why do you own two of them ? isnt one enough to fill the complete spectrum with a wall of sounds and events what could you use a second orville for Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 10:40:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13565; Mon, 21 May 2001 10:38:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:38:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <048c01c0e203$a7a595c0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 10:51:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA13875; Mon, 21 May 2001 10:49:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:49:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002301c0e204$ed25d500$a8ad1597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: References: <151qZh-1PhV5sC@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> <001501c0e202$2e428fe0$a8ad1597@default> <3B0943DC.E98FD681@vtx.ch> Subject: Re: Fractal looping Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:47:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Claude, mastering cds, processing my Emu sampler, using it as a digital gtr double preamp with band fuzz and with morphing functions between different preamp structures, real time MULTI TRACK sampling, studio applications in general...one unit in a case for ON THE ROAD use...the other stays home ! ! ! Many other reasons...also when looping AND sampling structure get VERY heavy...VERY VERY heavy, the other unit becomes the FX processor... ;-) Italo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Claude Voit" To: Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:35 PM Subject: Re: Fractal looping > Italo De Angelis wrote: > > > > ...and think you can do THIS all with just ONE POWERFUL unit, MARTIN ! ! ! > > > > Italo > > why do you own two of them ? > isnt one enough to fill the complete spectrum with a wall of sounds and > events > what could you use a second orville for > > > Claude > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 11:02:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA14084; Mon, 21 May 2001 10:58:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:58:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:55:39 +0200 Subject: Re: Fractal looping From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <151r8R-1ktMm0C@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id KAA14049 Resent-Message-ID: <0je63D.A.wbD.4zSC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I don´t think that Italo follows the wall of sound of Phil Spector ! Well it was monophonic. Marty ---------- >Von: Claude Voit >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Betreff: Re: Fractal looping >Datum: Mon, 21. Mai 2001 18:35 Uhr > >Italo De Angelis wrote: >> >> ...and think you can do THIS all with just ONE POWERFUL unit, MARTIN ! ! ! >> > >Italo > >why do you own two of them ? >isnt one enough to fill the complete spectrum with a wall of sounds and >events >what could you use a second orville for > > >Claude > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 11:07:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA15259; Mon, 21 May 2001 11:05:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:05:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003501c0e207$24e4d980$a8ad1597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: References: <151r8R-1ktMm0C@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> Subject: Re: Fractal looping Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:03:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <5oIw9B.A.JuD.v5SC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well...2001...SURROUND ! ! ! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Tauchen" To: Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 4:55 PM Subject: Re: Fractal looping > I don´t think that Italo follows the wall of sound of Phil Spector ! Well it > was monophonic. > > Marty > ---------- > >Von: Claude Voit > >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Betreff: Re: Fractal looping > >Datum: Mon, 21. Mai 2001 18:35 Uhr > > > > >Italo De Angelis wrote: > >> > >> ...and think you can do THIS all with just ONE POWERFUL unit, MARTIN ! ! ! > >> > > > >Italo > > > >why do you own two of them ? > >isnt one enough to fill the complete spectrum with a wall of sounds and > >events > >what could you use a second orville for > > > > > >Claude > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 11:13:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA15470; Mon, 21 May 2001 11:09:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:09:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: matthias@pop.e-net.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <00b201c0e11b$07b45800$5d81e3a5@looppool> References: <200105200938.FAA16145@hemlock.violacea.com> <00b201c0e11b$07b45800$5d81e3a5@looppool> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 12:08:42 +0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: re: playing with DJs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Stephen wrote: >"Nope, a turntable isn't a musical instrument no matter how great it >sounds." > >Ouch!!!!! Listen to DJ Shadow's record, "Endtroducing" and tell me that >the turntable is not an instrument. >I believe an instrument is any device with which a musician makes music. >That was a more creative, innovative, >and musical record than 90% of all of the convential instrument recordings >that were put out that year. > I dont like to stretch words too much. Since about any object creates some sound and with any sound music can be created, all objects would be musical instruments so the word looses its sense and nothing is acomplished. We should give meaning to words, not destroy them. The expression is usefull when limited to objects that are built or at least modified for that purpose. But I am not going into the discussion whether and which turn tables are made to creat music... -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 11:13:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA15367; Mon, 21 May 2001 11:08:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:08:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: matthias@pop.e-net.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1514XS-0Eagu8C@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> References: <1514XS-0Eagu8C@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 12:06:25 +0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: OT: Signal overloading analog gear bad? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Hmmmmmm.....? I understand Cliff wants to overdrive the units and asks whether this can DAMAGE. No, no problem, just go ahead! > >Maybe you should use a compressor/Limiter to bring your sound on an >acceptable level. > >Analog Clipping is ouch ! >DSigital Clipping is strange. >Try a smnooth compressor setting,and maybe later expand it again to get full >dynamic. > >Martin > >---------- >>Von: "Om_Audio" >>An: >>Betreff: OT: Signal overloading analog gear bad? >>Datum: Sam, 19. Mai 2001 10:47 Uhr >> > >>Is it bad to overload analog audio equipment? I'm quite enjoying momentarily >>sending these drums into my Lexicon Jam Man and the clipping that is >>occuring- just not sure if this can actually damage anything or not? >> >>Cliff >> -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 11:23:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA15814; Mon, 21 May 2001 11:21:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:21:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 08:13:07 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: Repeater Demo in Marin! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >I asked Don about disabling the pitch shift from the time stretch, I'd like >the option of changing the delay time and getting pitch shifts like an old >digital delay, especially being able to overdub thru different settings, >but this is kinda an esoteric request,,, > >Best- > >Mark Mark...thanks for bringing this up. IMO, this IS NOT AN ESOTERIC REQUEST. With the power that the Repeater packs, can this not be done? If not now, maybe with a software update? To me, this would be the total icing on the cake and the clincher for me getting a Repeater...maybe more than one. The only reason i've got my Digitech PDS pedals anymore is for just that (and the hold button). Electrix....please, please, please? thanks for the reviews, gentlemen. rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 11:50:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA16317; Mon, 21 May 2001 11:48:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:48:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:45:48 +0200 Subject: Re: Fractal looping From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Message-ID: <151ruy-1mO2FsC@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id LAA16280 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com A pity late to mention surround as the alternative to the MONO shift salad of Phil Spector. Room sound is not a new thing.At least an old thing. After establishing Stereo Sound,the engineers were busy to make a quadrophonic sound in the early seventies. Traced from this,todays surround sound is old dutch cheese. Tjhe problem of todays surround is the compression.For movie it is OK.For Audio a worse situation. A Stereo signal gets splitted up in pseudo surround action.FARRRRRRRRRT....... Does someone remeber the World Exhibitiomn in Osaka 1970 ? Stockhausen had a Pavillion for surrounding sound on this fair.Does someone remember ? Well,the sound of this construction was much better as what we call today "SURROUND". It needed a flexible kind of live electronic musican,today we would call it DJ,to bring this sounds to the folks. 30 years later we still grabble in a sound,wich could be expanded more. I stil have not heard a DVD wich shows another direction.DVD can,but it depends on the artist. So todays surround is only a shadow of that,what could be really possible ! Martin ---------- >Von: "Italo De Angelis" >An: >Betreff: Re: Fractal looping >Datum: Mon, 21. Mai 2001 17:03 Uhr > >Well...2001...SURROUND ! ! ! > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Martin Tauchen" >To: >Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 4:55 PM >Subject: Re: Fractal looping > > >> I don´t think that Italo follows the wall of sound of Phil Spector ! Well >it >> was monophonic. >> >> Marty >> ---------- >> >Von: Claude Voit >> >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> >Betreff: Re: Fractal looping >> >Datum: Mon, 21. Mai 2001 18:35 Uhr >> > >> >> >Italo De Angelis wrote: >> >> >> >> ...and think you can do THIS all with just ONE POWERFUL unit, MARTIN ! >! ! >> >> >> > >> >Italo >> > >> >why do you own two of them ? >> >isnt one enough to fill the complete spectrum with a wall of sounds and >> >events >> >what could you use a second orville for >> > >> > >> >Claude >> > >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 12:06:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA17767; Mon, 21 May 2001 12:04:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:04:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <0FE98FA04927D411A48300D0B77CF9BB4D2679@tiger.middlebury.edu> From: "Christensen, Mark" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:03:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i also know a lot of guys who play musical instruments, but are far from being musicians.... some are even trying to sound like warren haynes. m From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 12:40:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA18505; Mon, 21 May 2001 12:38:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:38:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <14.14774dba.283a75f1@aol.com> References: <14.14774dba.283a75f1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:30:31 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >- crowley ie: junkie, madman... decent novelist; weird human tho... zowee...what a thread mutation! sure, turn that pitch/time stretch knob on your Repeater all ya's want...but how fast can you go from DJ's to Crowley? i love being on this list. however, if mr. crowley were here and an LD member, i don't think his posts would go over well. me...i don't particularly like hyperintelligent, overbearing assholes who take pleasure in confusing people. i'll take Regardie. rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 12:41:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA18446; Mon, 21 May 2001 12:37:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:37:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010521093021.00bace00@mail.well.com> X-Sender: dog@mail.well.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:30:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: dan mcmullen Subject: OT: "do what thou wilt" (was Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 09:26 AM 5/21/01 EDT, dt wrote: >ko-jella@webtv.net writes: >>"Do What Thou Wilt,Shall Be the Whole Of the Law" >crowley's so-called 'law' (!ha!) does not apply to any except those who >accept its consequences. also, his experience of eastern religious systems provides non-obvious interpretations of "thou" and "law" and so on. it can be seen as a statement of fact, more so than a statement of ethics/amorality. of course, ko-jella/b-bender may know all of this. now, apply this concept to looping, turntables, music, whatever... some will choose to define music in certain limiting ways and experience the consequence of limited avenues of musical exposure and exploration. others will choose different definitions, different, perhaps "broader", limits, with different kinds of resulting limits on their creative output. it's all about choosing what limits we want to work within. the precise definition of 'music' is a *choice* made by all of us, and we all experience the consequences of our individual choices. best, dan (who's finally given up posting on topic. anarchy rules! :-) ___ dan mcmullen, ca, usa don't worry - pay attention mailto:dog@well.com 707-485-0220 pgp fingerprint = 1C70 8D81 6B94 93A9 F2D8 9609 2122 BF70 8619 EDAF From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 12:54:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA18988; Mon, 21 May 2001 12:53:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:53:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: dgoat@quik.com Message-ID: <3B09468D.C3DB82F4@quik.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:47:09 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song References: <29146-3B088D5D-556@storefull-245.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com 'b'bender wrote: > > yes...best to just keep smilin and talk to the people who interest you > intellectually and humourously joe > > "Do What Thou Wilt,Shall Be the Whole Of the Law" Sage advice. 93 fellow looper! Rev. Doubt-Goat From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 12:56:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA18941; Mon, 21 May 2001 12:52:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:52:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <1514XS-0Eagu8C@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:44:47 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: OT: Signal overloading analog gear bad? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >>Hmmmmmm.....? > >I understand Cliff wants to overdrive the units and asks whether >this can DAMAGE. >No, no problem, just go ahead! > go Cliff! y'know, i understand they used to punch stuff through speakers to get some really great distortions...back in the day. so i wonder what you could do with those new mackies... rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 12:59:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19322; Mon, 21 May 2001 12:58:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:58:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B09485B.4F69768B@pa.msu.edu> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:54:51 -0400 From: John McIntyre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Stephen P. Goodman" CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's References: <20.16a75b79.28386914@aol.com> <002601c0e10c$9ee8fbe0$0201a8c0@stephen> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "Stephen P. Goodman" wrote: > When was the last time more than two DJs > got together in the same room to "play" together, anyway? The one act I caught at last year's Lansing Electronica Festival was composed of three DJs. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@pa.msu.edu From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 13:02:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA20488; Mon, 21 May 2001 13:00:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:00:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004801c0e216$ba019e40$d70d1a3f@oemcomputer> From: "become_1" To: References: <29.15196c44.283a6c16@aol.com> Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:28:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2001 16:58:51.0560 (UTC) FILETIME=[4FB28A80:01C0E217] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > 'sliding yer fingers up & down the strings trying to repeat the previous > 'musical creations' of jimmy page (or whomever) does not make you a guitar > player, erm, musician'. I don't see much point in that either, but--if that's how someone wants to spend his/her time, seems to me said person is a musician. Is that so different from sliding fingers around whatever instrument trying to play the muscial creations of, say, Bach? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 13:07:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA20698; Mon, 21 May 2001 13:05:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:05:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 19:02:17 +0200 Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <151t74-12ARaiC@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id NAA20643 Resent-Message-ID: <-fFdzD.A.yCF.iqUC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hmmmmmmmmm......? Never met a real asshole on this list ! Where is the Vaseline pot,to welcome the first real asshole ? Or maybe you prefer a golden shower ? Don´t know.... Maybe Mr.Crowley will crawl at unecpected places...Ouch ! Besides this basement kidding,do you really think,that on this list appeares really assholes,who pretend to be hyperintelligent ? I guess not.Most of us share the individual experience each one of us made in his life. This can be a pool of inspiration for a few one.Not for all. No one expects this from this list,to satisfy all. It is impossible. If you are looking for a real asshole,well,there are enough websites wich will bring them to you. This is not the place for it. The poodle bites,the poodle chews it, and sometimes rent a nice french bomb. Marty ---------- >Von: rich >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Betreff: Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song >Datum: Mon, 21. Mai 2001 18:30 Uhr > >>- crowley ie: junkie, madman... decent novelist; weird human tho... > >zowee...what a thread mutation! > >sure, turn that pitch/time stretch knob on your Repeater all ya's >want...but how fast can you go from DJ's to Crowley? > >i love being on this list. > >however, if mr. crowley were here and an LD member, i don't think his >posts would go over well. me...i don't particularly like >hyperintelligent, overbearing assholes who take pleasure in confusing >people. i'll take Regardie. > >rich > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 13:09:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA20697; Mon, 21 May 2001 13:05:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:05:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: landman@pop.ncal.verio.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:06:00 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) Subject: Re: Repeater Demo in Marin! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com It's kinda funny, I think we all assumed, because Repeater allows variable speed playback, and has these nifty pitch shifters after the signal to correct for pitch change, that it'd be able to disable the automatic pitch correction. I know I assumed this. If we hadn't have figured that, I'll bet it'd have been an early feature request and included. As it is, Don said not in this software release, but perhaps another. My take was that it was probably something they could do, but they certainly weren't going to mess with getting this version rock-solid by considering adding something else. Best- Mark >>I asked Don about disabling the pitch shift from the time stretch, I'd like >>the option of changing the delay time and getting pitch shifts like an old >>digital delay, especially being able to overdub thru different settings, >>but this is kinda an esoteric request,,, >> >>Best- >> >>Mark > >Mark...thanks for bringing this up. IMO, this IS NOT AN ESOTERIC >REQUEST. With the power that the Repeater packs, can this not be >done? If not now, maybe with a software update? > >To me, this would be the total icing on the cake and the clincher for >me getting a Repeater...maybe more than one. The only reason i've >got my Digitech PDS pedals anymore is for just that (and the hold >button). > >Electrix....please, please, please? > >thanks for the reviews, gentlemen. > >rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 13:21:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA21079; Mon, 21 May 2001 13:19:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:19:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001801c0e21a$86119460$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: <1514XS-0Eagu8C@fwd04.sul.t-online.com> Subject: Re: OT: Signal overloading analog gear bad? Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:19:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com First of all- I would like to congratulate Rich and his wife on their recent anniversary- I am sorry I was unable to attend the festivities- more on that later Rich- As for my new Mackies- I am still cleaning myself from the first feedback experience with those things- I cringe at the thought of another- they have massive bass though, maybe if I feedback with my bass guitar it wont hurt em- I'll put em awn ELEVEN first, roight! I just have to make sure I water that tree in my back yard that grows $20s- looking a little limp... Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "rich" To: Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 9:44 AM Subject: Re: OT: Signal overloading analog gear bad? > >>Hmmmmmm.....? > > > >I understand Cliff wants to overdrive the units and asks whether > >this can DAMAGE. > >No, no problem, just go ahead! > > > > go Cliff! y'know, i understand they used to punch stuff through > speakers to get some really great distortions...back in the day. > > so i wonder what you could do with those new mackies... > > rich > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 13:21:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA21086; Mon, 21 May 2001 13:20:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:20:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001901c0e21a$864b9020$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: <151t74-12ARaiC@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 10:21:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I think he was referring to Mr. Crowley- right Rich? Err, Rich......... heloooo...... C ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Tauchen" To: Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 10:02 AM Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song Hmmmmmmmmm......? Never met a real asshole on this list ! Where is the Vaseline pot,to welcome the first real asshole ? Or maybe you prefer a golden shower ? Don´t know.... Maybe Mr.Crowley will crawl at unecpected places...Ouch ! Besides this basement kidding,do you really think,that on this list appeares really assholes,who pretend to be hyperintelligent ? I guess not.Most of us share the individual experience each one of us made in his life. This can be a pool of inspiration for a few one.Not for all. No one expects this from this list,to satisfy all. It is impossible. If you are looking for a real asshole,well,there are enough websites wich will bring them to you. This is not the place for it. The poodle bites,the poodle chews it, and sometimes rent a nice french bomb. Marty ---------- >Von: rich >An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Betreff: Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song >Datum: Mon, 21. Mai 2001 18:30 Uhr > >>- crowley ie: junkie, madman... decent novelist; weird human tho... > >zowee...what a thread mutation! > >sure, turn that pitch/time stretch knob on your Repeater all ya's >want...but how fast can you go from DJ's to Crowley? > >i love being on this list. > >however, if mr. crowley were here and an LD member, i don't think his >posts would go over well. me...i don't particularly like >hyperintelligent, overbearing assholes who take pleasure in confusing >people. i'll take Regardie. > >rich > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 14:34:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA23749; Mon, 21 May 2001 14:32:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 14:32:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 11:29:01 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id OAA23701 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Finally... All roads lead to the Golden Dawn!? This is mania at it's best... Crowley, Regardie... Sheesh! -Miko >>> rich@nuvisionsca.com 05/21/01 09:30AM >>> >- crowley ie: junkie, madman... decent novelist; weird human tho... zowee...what a thread mutation! sure, turn that pitch/time stretch knob on your Repeater all ya's want...but how fast can you go from DJ's to Crowley? i love being on this list. however, if mr. crowley were here and an LD member, i don't think his posts would go over well. me...i don't particularly like hyperintelligent, overbearing assholes who take pleasure in confusing people. i'll take Regardie. rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 15:18:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25721; Mon, 21 May 2001 15:16:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:16:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001901c0e21a$864b9020$7bb387d8@cliff> References: <151t74-12ARaiC@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> <001901c0e21a$864b9020$7bb387d8@cliff> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 12:07:17 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i didn't bring up the Crowley reference, and my apologies for carrying the thread further off topic. i was merely surprised at the rapid transition from DJ's to Crowley (where else but here?), and stating my own personal preference for Regardie's straightforward approach to disseminating information...in contrast to the twists, turns and traps of Crowley's. I'm sure i didn't think it through well enough and made a flippant comment (boy, what a surprise). back to the dj's? best, rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 15:27:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25944; Mon, 21 May 2001 15:26:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:26:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB272@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: DJs/Turntablists etc.... Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:23:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0E22B.840CDB00" Resent-Message-ID: <_pEL8B.A.KVG.iuWC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E22B.840CDB00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" But was that just because, as a style it was underdeveloped - early Rock 'n' Roll sounds incredibly unsophisticated now - there's a certain naive charm to Bill Hailey and The Everly Brothers, but it's not the height of creativity now, even though at the time it was considered rather risque :o) ** ya know steve, i gotta say that the real early rock and roll shit just smokes. unsophisticated? whatever. btw, the everly vocal harmonies are pretty sophisto in my view - - aparently some guys out of liverpool thought so too. ** overall. i doe a few dj gigs and they can be fun. my main complaint would be the same one i have with any other musician - - sometimes a given person can't adapt quickly enough to an improv setting . . . but this changenight to night with all of us - - no? stig ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E22B.840CDB00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: DJs/Turntablists etc....

But was that just because, as a style it was = underdeveloped - early Rock 'n'
Roll sounds incredibly unsophisticated now - there's = a certain naive charm
to Bill Hailey and The Everly Brothers, but it's not = the height of
creativity now, even though at the time it was = considered rather risque :o)

** ya know steve, i gotta say that the real early = rock and roll shit just smokes. unsophisticated? whatever.
btw, the everly vocal harmonies are pretty sophisto = in my view - - aparently some guys out of liverpool thought so too. =



** overall. i doe a few dj gigs and they can be fun. = my main complaint would be the same one i have with any other musician = - - sometimes a given person can't adapt quickly enough to an improv = setting . . . but this changenight to night with all of us - - = no?

stig

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E22B.840CDB00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 15:31:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA26067; Mon, 21 May 2001 15:29:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:29:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [208.245.109.15] From: "max valentino" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 19:28:56 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 May 2001 19:28:56.0329 (UTC) FILETIME=[46F53F90:01C0E22C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ...so well put dt! A turnatble, like a guitar or whatever, is merely a tool for expression. There are many ways (each different) of using these tools....some truely unique and creative, others, well....not! There a plenty of crappy guitar players outh there trying their best to emulate and copy Jimi or Jimmy Page or whoever....the fact they are weilding a "conventional" instrument does not make them "more musical" or more of a musician! Copping the licks or techniques of the past does not make one a creator...maybe an achivist...and is not any different than spinning "other people's creations". max _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 16:31:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA28381; Mon, 21 May 2001 16:29:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:29:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <200105212027.NAA15369@proxy2.ba.best.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 13:36:02 -0700 Subject: Re: EarthLight Online at Live365 From: "Allan Hoeltje" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Stephen, This is great that you have made your music available on the net. I am fairly new to streaming audio but I seem to be getting a lot of breaks in the music which are very disturbing to the mood your music is trying to evoke. Is this normal? Is everything on "live 365" your material? If it is then once again I will make my plea: Please put your music on CD! It is wonderful to listen to but I want to play it on my home stereo, sans computer and inter(upt)net glitches! -Allan ---------- >From: "Stephen P. Goodman" >To: >Subject: EarthLight Online at Live365 >Date: Mon, May 21, 2001, 7:38 AM > > Available now for on-demand listening! > > http://www.live365.com/stations/218194 > > Stephen Goodman > http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations > http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 16:41:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA28668; Mon, 21 May 2001 16:39:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:39:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010521144339.0091aa00@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 14:43:39 -0600 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Hi again!... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com -Just writing a quick note to say hello to the list. I was a member a few years ago, and decided to stop by again for a little while. -Love the DJ thread! I for one, think that "music" and creativity are only limited by our own imaginations. -and now having left a couple of pennies, I must run to go teach. Hope you're all having a wonderful day, talk with ya soon, K? Smiles, Goddess --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 17:01:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA29333; Mon, 21 May 2001 16:59:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:59:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010521165735.007b4100@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:57:35 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song In-Reply-To: References: <14.14774dba.283a75f1@aol.com> <14.14774dba.283a75f1@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 09:30 AM 5/21/01 -0700, you wrote: >sure, turn that pitch/time stretch knob on your Repeater all ya's >want...but how fast can you go from DJ's to Crowley? ?gniksam sdrawkcaB From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 17:11:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA30582; Mon, 21 May 2001 17:08:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:08:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRGS4cmXGLMoRm9r2OsqQOgx55v2gIUWRGh/8e1HnEosxIofMovtikL93U= From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:08:10 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song Message-ID: <29137-3B0983BA-3225@storefull-245.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: RA336@aol.com's message of Mon, 21 May 2001 09:45:21 EDT Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com we all accept its consequences.i certainly hope so!!!but for the uninitiate,i think this is a good place to inject,and dispel a misunderstanding about 'the law':: The true meaning of "the law" is not to give free reign to his readers to indulge every whim that may cross their imaginations,but rather,to find "Ones" "will" and achieve it, albeit,if thou chooseth to be a looper............then do it!!!in doing so,you have conformed with the law.ALL that Crowley is saying is....find your true desire in life and achieve it.!!! Not really so sinister ,now,is it???? I must say i am glad to have found such a group of open minded,wellread folks on this site.glad i stopped by.its been enlightening. on a personal note '93' to my brother. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 17:38:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA31250; Mon, 21 May 2001 17:36:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:36:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B09A592.5F7533E0@vtx.ch> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:32:34 +0000 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hi again!... References: <3.0.5.32.20010521144339.0091aa00@mail.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Corynne welcome back almost 4 years .... same old farts around, with some soon to be OF and some very interesting newbie's guys, behave. A looping lady is in tha house! Claude Goddess wrote: > > -Just writing a quick note to say hello to the list. I was a > member a few years ago, and decided to stop by again for a little while. > -Love the DJ thread! I for one, think that "music" and creativity are > only limited by our own imaginations. -and now having left a > couple of pennies, I must run to go teach. Hope you're all having a > wonderful day, talk with ya soon, K? > > Smiles, > > Goddess > > --- > > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. > -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 17:47:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA31716; Mon, 21 May 2001 17:45:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:45:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhRWtVth9ScdWc/z2slgcHgZxnMnIgIVAI3zJ3eVSlRYWR7rXIhTcwI77/fr From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:45:20 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: goodbye and thanks Message-ID: <29137-3B098C70-3292@storefull-245.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Goddess 's message of Mon, 21 May 2001 14:43:39 -0600 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: <9dpp3.A.WvH.yxYC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ps;;i to have been a sex fiend,junkie,world traveler,avid reader,writer,"madman"(as opposed to being normal.gawd forbid)and all those other attributes the reader "accuses"?? Big Al of......I couldnt get into the mountain climbing bit,tho. Dont make you a bad person!!!! thanks again all for your feedback,gotta move on,this is a biiiiiggggg internet!!! and,by the way,i dont stay home,but living in the Big Apple,i am out every night ,and i do hear it all.But unlike my friend,who couldnt put in the time,and couldnt stand the competition he had to endure to became a really good guitarist,i will not sell all my guitars and buy boxes and machines and turntables to make it easy on myself!!I will still work hard at my craft,practicing and writing for hours every day to achieve my will,which is to be the best damn guitar player in the city!!! a hard task ,i admit but one worth striving for.And if i only get part way there,which i already have......the dream is the thing.If it be your will to be the best looper,then all blessings be upon you!!My friend is looping because he didnt have the talent to do what he really wanted to do,and so i presume he will fail here also,because he will be competing with loopers who do it because it is their will,not because they couldnt handle the rigours of studying guitar. hence crowleys law.......find your will,and DO IT.best to you all.May you do your will.....I'm "already gone" "Do What Thou Wilt,Shall Be the Whole Of the Law" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 18:04:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA00724; Mon, 21 May 2001 18:02:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:02:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:01:02 EDT Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_d8.69b2c93.283aea1e_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_d8.69b2c93.283aea1e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/21/01 12:37:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rich@nuvisionsca.com writes: > but how fast can you go from DJ's to Crowley? > > i love being on this list. > well said!.....m --part1_d8.69b2c93.283aea1e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/21/01 12:37:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rich@nuvisionsca.com writes:


but how fast can you go from DJ's to Crowley?

i love being on this list.


well said!.....m --part1_d8.69b2c93.283aea1e_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 18:55:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01446; Mon, 21 May 2001 18:50:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:50:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004001c0e248$988130a0$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Reply-To: "diatom drone" From: "diatom drone" To: References: Subject: diy racks? Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:50:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com It seems to me like somebody recently posted a url that had measurements and basics for making equipment racks from scratch, and as I'm setting up a home studio anywhere I can save a few bucks is welcome. I searched the archive with little luck, and the site seems to have magically disappeared from my bookmarks. Does anyone have this link handy? Any and all info much appreciated! Jon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 19:00:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01398; Mon, 21 May 2001 18:48:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:48:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: dgoat@quik.com Message-ID: <3B0999C0.142728C5@quik.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:42:08 -0700 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song References: <29137-3B0983BA-3225@storefull-245.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com 93 'b'bender wrote: > must say i am glad to have found such a group of open minded,wellread > folks on this site.glad i stopped by.its been enlightening. on a > personal note '93' to my brother. There is no law beyond loop as thou wilt Loop is the law, loop under will ;-) Heh. 93 Rev. D.G. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 19:07:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01635; Mon, 21 May 2001 18:55:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:55:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQZi9qSC4o9ObT8/JW8qq5xf8zIOAIVAMvr0Nkwi6BngOmXkymARdd9L3xl From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:54:50 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song Message-ID: <27459-3B099CBA-3581@storefull-244.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: dgoat@quik.com's message of Mon, 21 May 2001 15:42:08 -0700 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: <0zT8YC.A.aY.8yZC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com 93......well said my brother,alex would smile as i did,im sure.peace,joe ay hello once in awhile,if life allows..... "Do What Thou Wilt,Shall Be the Whole Of the Law" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 19:11:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA02961; Mon, 21 May 2001 19:02:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 19:02:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004a01c0e24a$06e4f760$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <3.0.5.32.20010521144339.0091aa00@mail.earthlink.net> <3B09A592.5F7533E0@vtx.ch> Subject: Re: Hi again!... Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:01:48 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "Claude Voit" put forth: > guys, behave. A looping lady is in tha house! [putting out the coasters] Hey! Use the damned coasters! :) Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 19:28:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA03567; Mon, 21 May 2001 19:26:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 19:26:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Message-Id: <200105212325.QAA15669@scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 16:27:33 -0700 Subject: Re: Hi again!... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com -wow a loopin lady-so what do ya know,ya know?and what do ya teach? me likes yer writin stylee... stanner ---------- >From: Goddess >To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Hi again!... >Date: Mon, May 21, 2001, 1:43 PM > > -Just writing a quick note to say hello to the list. I was a >member a few years ago, and decided to stop by again for a little while. >-Love the DJ thread! I for one, think that "music" and creativity are >only limited by our own imaginations. -and now having left a >couple of pennies, I must run to go teach. Hope you're all having a >wonderful day, talk with ya soon, K? > >Smiles, > >Goddess > > > > >--- > > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. >-Then, anything is possible..." > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 20:11:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA05579; Mon, 21 May 2001 20:09:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:09:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <99.1521bdec.283b0801@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:08:33 EDT Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de partially writes: >At the end,it is not interesting for me,how the music was produced,wich >came >so close >to my heart,that I will call an acoustic sound MUSIC. >It is only important,that this music had touched me,for whatever reasons. >Marty so nicely stated: thanks, m. best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 20:23:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA05918; Mon, 21 May 2001 20:20:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:20:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Brad Chase" To: "Loopers Delight Mail" Subject: All you fascinating artists on the list. Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:27:31 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-SLUIDL: 33E080AE-4A1B11D5-BA900001-02769B72 Resent-Message-ID: <6Q8AcC.A.WcB.RDbC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Howdy- To the List at Large: Here is a simple question.......was Jackson Pollack an artist? Why? At the time of his creating and ravings (which I understand being a Friend of Bill W. for over eight years), most would not give him the time of day. Let's add Andy Warhol, Roy Liechtenstein, etc. to the list. Were they artists? John Cage? Hmmmmmmm........ Man has an innate desire to explore, understand, and create (not just pro-create as the net seems to suggest), wouldn't you all agree. It is in the creating that makes man the artist. The inspiration we often call the 'muse' is from a source of power beyond our understanding. Ego-centric man is the first to criticize and the first to take credit. I always find that so amusing. This is, of course, my opinion based on personal experience. I am myself am not a musician, not by the musicians standards anyway ( my dad was a pro jazz clarinets player, so I do know what a musician is). I am one who benefits from the efforts of individuals like all of you. I am a part of your creations of art, because I am the listener. I also take the loops you create, and that are sold, or provided on the net, and reshape them into new art/music forms. Am I an 'artist'? I always have to go back to Andy, Roy, and Jackson when I wonder if the music I am making is a 'sham'. Self doubt is a bitch when you are the sensitive artist type. I digress; when I think of those men, whose art is now in VERY HIGH DEMAND, I realize that I am no more, and no less the artist then any other human being, who puts out the effort to create, for the enjoyment of himself and others. One (er two?) last point(s): I have another sensitive artist type in my life. My twelve year old son. He has been playing the guitar for almost four years now. When we go to our local Mars Music or Guitar Center (a small advantage of living in Orange County, Calif.) we do two things together. The first: He straps on the most awesome, expensive guitar that he can get away with, plugs into the biggest Marshall Stack available, starts to play, and that quiet, sensitive boy comes ALIVE! Can he play well? Hell no....but when you see the look in his eyes (and you all know that look, don't you?) the sounds of the tarnished chords and crummy twelve year old lead runs (that he has practiced and practiced on with his teacher), you can't help but smile. He isn't very good compared to Steve Vai, but then Pollack wasn't Matise either. When he plays, I hear the Force, the Muse, the Power exiting an other human (in this case, my son) to bring pleasure to another (in this case, just me, I suppose). I may be the only one in his audience that loves what I hear, but the circle of art, the circle of the Power, is completed, none the less. Second: After that is done, we go over to Keys/Synth toys section (my favorite..boy's love toys). We find the most expensive sets of Poly synth batteries, and the two of us start to make our own impromptu art, what we all call music. It is not uncommon for a small group of people to gather back there, to see who is creating all this sound (and it sounds pretty good, cause we both have 'the juice'). Mind you, neither one of us has studied piano (i.e., can't play keys), and if modern SYNTHS weren't programmed computers with keyboard triggers attached, none of this would be happening. But the audience gathers any way, because the Force is flowing baby! Tell someone Andy's Soupcans are not 'art' at an auction for one of them!!!!! I have written to much, and I apologize, but when giant intellects (like mine ;} )start to ruminate, and ponder about others 'art', I am reminded of this argument and all the individuals I have brought forth as examples. Pretentious? Perhaps...... If you really want to do something worthwhile, that will actually mean something when you are not 'here' someday, take a kid(s) and SHOW THEM how the muse works through you. Show THEM your process, for no money or glory. You may be the spark that ignites the flame of the next Stockhausen, Brubeck, or Vangelis! We have all been blessed/cursed with this artist thing. It is not for us to judge, but strictly to share....there in lies the eternal joy. Please send Patrick (my son) and I your web site links, so that we may share your in your 'muse'. Thank you all for your creativity. Let the Circle be unbroken. Your new friend, Brad Chas aka 'tHE wALLcLANmAN' From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 20:23:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA05966; Mon, 21 May 2001 20:22:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:22:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <23.c0ff940.283b0b19@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:21:45 EDT Subject: Re: Repeater Demo in Marin! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <0kAGwD.A.EdB.9EbC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com rich@nuvisionsca.com writes: >To me, this would be the total icing on the cake and the clincher for >me getting a Repeater...maybe more than one. The only reason i've >got my Digitech PDS pedals anymore is for just that (and the hold >button). howzabout: keep yer 'analog'-style delays..... (btw, the new guyatone ddl-pedal rocks). go for the iced-cake, anyways..... and don't fergit to bring an edp, an iced-cake unto itself. best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 20:25:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA06201; Mon, 21 May 2001 20:24:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:24:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.174.121.53] From: "Patrick Bailey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:23:02 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 May 2001 00:23:02.0716 (UTC) FILETIME=[5D0637C0:01C0E255] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > >i try to be openminded but after practicing for 30 years > >maybe you might eventually feel better if ya tried harder? >there are some unbelievable turntablists around; >musicians w/strong (new) skills, massive musical/musicological knowledge >and, >thereby, open minds: indeed, more so than many guitarists, imsao. >best, >dt / s-c > >imsao = 'in my seemingly arrogant opinion' > I much agree, I've met several dj's around the LA area who fall into this category. Some of them are very knowledgeable when it comes to drums. Cut Chemist and J-Rocc of the Beat Junkies come to mind. The way they match beats is totally seamless, like it's the same song. They'll even take different tracks that have the same drum sample, say the break from Bob James' the 'Nautilus', and totally make it work and make a statement. A good friend of mine is a well-respected hip hop dj locally, and his knowledge of jazz fusion is pretty vast, he's got practically the entire CTI catalog on vinyl. I've seen him mix together Deodato, Massive Attack into Billy Cobham's 'Spectrum', into Silver Apples, into Gangstarr. There are some DJ's doing some very neato stuff. Who cares if they aren't utilizing theory or reading charts. Then again, there are a lot of dj's who are very egotistical and just play the latest URB magazine top 10 and ask for no less than a grand for a 1-hour set. It's funny, as a guitarist, other musicians I've collaborated with the least are other guitar players(...except Dan from the Breakestra!!...). The majority of the ones I've met are very close-minded. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 20:27:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA06317; Mon, 21 May 2001 20:26:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:26:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <47.bcc5ff7.283b0be3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:25:07 EDT Subject: Re: OT: "do what thou wilt" (was Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >>>"Do What Thou Wilt,Shall Be the Whole Of the Law" >>crowley's so-called 'law' (!ha!) does not apply to any except those who >>accept its consequences. dog@well.com writes: >also, his experience of eastern religious systems provides non-obvious >interpretations of "thou" and "law" and so on. many have doubted the depth of crowley's 'experience of eastern religious systems', as well as his rather thin re-hashing/re-interpretation thereof. best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 20:39:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA06572; Mon, 21 May 2001 20:38:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:38:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <8a.6e935c4.283b0ed7@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:37:43 EDT Subject: OT: dj's go crowley To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <7-5L7B.A.imB.jTbC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >> "Do What Thou Wilt,Shall Be the Whole Of the Law" dgoat@quik.com writes: >Sage advice. 93 fellow looper! is there actually some 'advice', in that? sounds more like a neo-indio/tibetophile credo that hopskipgoosteps its way past the basis of the tantric preliminaries, eg: ethical codes, ahimsa, bodhicitta, et al, ya dig. (like: 'wow! just by a brief recognition of mind-nature, *i* can be a crazy-yogi, too --- and some folks will play right along!') ..... i've heard that even brief glimpses of light/vidya/rigpa could deepen the fog of obscurations/avidya/marigpa. i meandered..... best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 20:43:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA06684; Mon, 21 May 2001 20:42:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:42:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <43.157ffb20.283b0f7f@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:40:31 EDT Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com become_1@email.msn.com writes: >I don't see much point in that either, but--if that's how someone wants >to >spend his/her time, seems to me said person is a musician. Is that so >different from sliding fingers around whatever instrument trying to play >the >muscial creations of, say, Bach? well, ummm, good point: i blabbed-off some shite, trying to make a point. maybe we need a more detailed set of terms to describe people who make music/sonics/etc..... sorry, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 20:47:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA06852; Mon, 21 May 2001 20:46:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:46:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:44:25 EDT Subject: Re: Repeater Demo in Marin! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <79kLN.A.KqB.yabC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com landman@wco.com writes: >It's kinda funny, I think we all assumed, because Repeater allows variable >speed playback, and has these nifty pitch shifters after the signal to >correct for pitch change, that it'd be able to disable the automatic pitch >correction. I know I assumed this. > >If we hadn't have figured that, I'll bet it'd have been an early feature >request and included. i didn't really care 'bout that, myself; independent time/pitch changing was what i wanted, here. but: i'd use that other stuff, too..... best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 20:52:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA07037; Mon, 21 May 2001 20:51:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:51:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <10c.321979.283b114c@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:48:12 EDT Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ekstasis1@hotmail.com writes: >Copping the licks or techniques of the past does not make one a >creator...maybe an achivist...and is not any different than spinning "other >people's creations". not that that option is bad, just 'similar in nature', i thought; thanks for the exposition. best, dt /s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 20:52:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA07071; Mon, 21 May 2001 20:51:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:51:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <10e.1567a.283b1200@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:51:12 EDT Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ko-jella@webtv.net writes: >ALL that Crowley is saying is....find >your true desire in life and achieve it.!!! Not really so sinister >,now,is it???? depends on the quality & nature of yer 'desire', nah? and..... i've found that my most respected teachers taught more by example, than by the seductively written (& often remote) word..... word, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 21:00:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA08361; Mon, 21 May 2001 20:59:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:59:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <23.c0ff940.283b0b19@aol.com> References: <23.c0ff940.283b0b19@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 17:51:59 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: Repeater Demo in Marin! Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com david, please...no more temptations! you and your positive musings about Logic and all dem plug ins and other softs...and i just got a G4 that will actually handle the new stuff...whew...me pockets aren't getting any deeper!!!! to all: david's OAH cd is a cool listen, plus the acid tracks included are a study in themselves...tons of microcosms built into larger frameworks. some of it looks frightfully obsessive! me and a fellow looper are definitely planning a remix! thanks david. >rich@nuvisionsca.com writes: >>To me, this would be the total icing on the cake and the clincher for >>me getting a Repeater...maybe more than one. The only reason i've >>got my Digitech PDS pedals anymore is for just that (and the hold >>button). >howzabout: >keep yer 'analog'-style delays..... (btw, the new guyatone ddl-pedal rocks). >go for the iced-cake, anyways..... and don't fergit to bring an edp, an >iced-cake unto itself. >best, >dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 21:10:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA08541; Mon, 21 May 2001 21:08:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 21:08:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: mhamburg@mailsj-v1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <23.c0ff940.283b0b19@aol.com> <23.c0ff940.283b0b19@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:08:56 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Mark Hamburg" Subject: What the Repeater makes me long for in my EDP Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Overall, the Marin Repeater demo was one of the better product demos I've seen recently. Having been to the demo, here is what I find myself most longing for in my EDP: 3. Easy download of the loops for future use. Not going to happen since it's a hardware change. Yes, there is MIDI sample dump, but I said "easy". 2. Stereo. Not going to happen since it's a hardware change. I think prices are such that I can get a second EDP for roughly the price of an already stereo Repeater, so maybe the thing to hope for here is some softening in the price of the EDP. 1. Audio beat detection. I really want a box that listens to what I'm playing, figures out the tempo, and uses that to compensate for sloppiness in hitting the record button to start and stop the loop. That is a software change... The pitch shift and speed shift stuff is cool, but I could continue to live without that. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 21:18:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA08723; Mon, 21 May 2001 21:16:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 21:16:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: KB305@aol.com Message-ID: <93.b207392.283b17a3@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 21:15:15 EDT Subject: Re: OT: dj's go crowley To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_93.b207392.283b17a3_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_93.b207392.283b17a3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 05/21/2001 7:38:23 PM Central Daylight Time, Hedewa7@aol.com writes: > ..... i've heard that even brief glimpses of light/vidya/rigpa could deepen > the fog of obscurations/avidya/marigpa. > > or, as Thelonius said: 'If someone knew what that said, they'd flip! I mean flip for real!" kevin --part1_93.b207392.283b17a3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 05/21/2001 7:38:23 PM Central Daylight Time,
Hedewa7@aol.com writes:


..... i've heard that even brief glimpses of light/vidya/rigpa could deepen
the fog of obscurations/avidya/marigpa.



or, as Thelonius said: 'If someone knew what that said, they'd flip!  I mean
flip for real!"

kevin --part1_93.b207392.283b17a3_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 22:21:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA10774; Mon, 21 May 2001 22:20:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 22:20:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <200105220219.f4M2JNO92141@mail1.sirius.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:25:50 -0800 Subject: hey all from randy clark and crowsong!!!!! From: "randy clark" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hey you all!! my name is randy clark, and i'd love to send you a copy of my band crowsong's cd "dark comes light".it's got lot's of looping on it....the last track is straight to two track using a modified lexican pcm 42, an eventide h3000, and an old korg sdd 2000....i play guitar in this whole deal. i got turned on to looping from my friend rob aceto, who learned from playing with david torn...an inspirational looping guy...yes!!! please give me a yell as to where to send stuff. thanks, randy clark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 22:31:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA10976; Mon, 21 May 2001 22:30:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 22:30:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <64.e2671e7.283b20a2@aol.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 21:53:38 EDT Subject: (no subject) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_64.e2671e7.283b20a2_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_64.e2671e7.283b20a2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/21/01 8:58:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rich@nuvisionsca.com writes: > david's OAH cd is a cool listen, plus the acid tracks included are a > "acid tracks included".....pray tell, what is this about?.....m --part1_64.e2671e7.283b20a2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/21/01 8:58:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rich@nuvisionsca.com writes:


david's OAH cd is a cool listen, plus the acid tracks included are a
study in themselves


"acid tracks included".....pray tell, what is this about?.....m --part1_64.e2671e7.283b20a2_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 23:05:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA12594; Mon, 21 May 2001 23:04:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:04:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAh3+cnbdDoj+s2H6NkeAPk0GZBkwCFCzTgca09/jy2SM+GFbCii4VyVYE From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:03:23 -0400 (EDT) To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: 93dg Re::empirical knowledge vs:the pablum fed by "teachers" Message-ID: <28359-3B09D6FB-1391@storefull-243.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com stopped back to check responces....there is one soul who has a real problem with AC...either he is really dense,has been listening to "teachers" who injected their own philosophy into the subject matter(God knows what,when or where that may have been) or was rejected from membership in the OTO at one or more times (or the "teacher" was).That is the most obvious and glaring danger of being "taught" as opposed to seeking out the truth for ones self!!! I for one have found some of the most interesting,kind,sharing,compassionate, and,(important to me)philosophically searching people i have ever met in my long life in the OTO!!!! i should say here; that i am a traveller and a seeker who goes out of his way to talk to people from all walks of life,just to learn all that i can about these travellers and the universe that we inhabit!!!Sounds like our friend spends too much time with "teachers" and not enough time seeking truth and knowledge on his own!!!,otherwise he would know..... Loop is the Law,loop under will............. "Do What Thou Wilt,Shall Be the Whole Of the Law" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 23:29:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA12921; Mon, 21 May 2001 23:28:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:28:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001b01c0e26f$a4511b80$fc518218@we.mediaone.net> From: "Om_Audio" To: References: <64.e2671e7.283b20a2@aol.com> Subject: Re: (no subject) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 20:31:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0E234.F7B6C120" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0E234.F7B6C120 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There is a folder included with songs and loops and even a free version = of Acid XP or something like that- for you to remix, so get on it! Cliff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Nemoguitt@aol.com=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 6:53 PM Subject: (no subject) In a message dated 5/21/01 8:58:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,=20 rich@nuvisionsca.com writes:=20 david's OAH cd is a cool listen, plus the acid tracks included are a = study in themselves "acid tracks included".....pray tell, what is this about?.....m=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0E234.F7B6C120 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There is a folder included with songs = and loops and=20 even a free version of Acid XP or something like that- for you to remix, = so get=20 on it!
 
Cliff
----- Original Message -----
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In a = message dated=20 5/21/01 8:58:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rich@nuvisionsca.com writes:=20


david's OAH cd is a cool listen, plus the acid tracks = included=20 are a
study in themselves

"acid tracks=20 included".....pray tell, what is this about?.....m=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0E234.F7B6C120-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 21 23:52:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA13289; Mon, 21 May 2001 23:50:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:50:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [209.163.54.66] From: "Denis Aldrich" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: turntable instrument? Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 22:49:33 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 May 2001 03:49:33.0776 (UTC) FILETIME=[36ABED00:01C0E272] Resent-Message-ID: <2N_Ju.A.fPD.sHeC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Just thinking. Is there music score for turntable? Self expression seems important, but to communicate that on paper, so someone else can play it, seems a stretch for a table. Instruments that I am aware of have music writen for them. Well????? Denis _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 00:10:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA14732; Tue, 22 May 2001 00:08:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:08:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhQfNypJt+BCB9Np3+bWU9i3BgtH+QIUCJY1TxZrijOpcI27O3iFuWAPg0o= From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:08:25 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: dj's go crowley Message-ID: <28382-3B09E639-1912@storefull-248.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: Hedewa7@aol.com's message of Mon, 21 May 2001 20:37:43 EDT Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com seems to be a problem........... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 00:22:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA15063; Tue, 22 May 2001 00:21:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:21:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Message-Id: <200105220420.VAA14739@snipe.mail.pas.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 21:20:50 -0700 Subject: Re: turntable instrument? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hold on now -not all music has to be written down-where is that said? two examples off the top o' my head:'burundi' drummers of africa have there music handed down(physically and emotionally) generation by generation as many other musics are and you will *never* see a transcription of the wonderful,powerful feedback squalls of jimi hendrix that are as deep and fulfilling musically (for me) as music in all its veritables will ever B gettin! in my very humble opinion... stanner ---------- >From: "Denis Aldrich" >To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: turntable instrument? >Date: Mon, May 21, 2001, 8:49 PM > >Just thinking. Is there music score for turntable? Self expression seems >important, but to communicate that on paper, so someone else can play it, >seems a stretch for a table. Instruments that I am aware of have music >writen for them. Well????? >Denis >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 00:23:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA15123; Tue, 22 May 2001 00:22:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:22:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "matt davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: turntable instrument? Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 21:21:39 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 May 2001 04:21:39.0880 (UTC) FILETIME=[B2B81280:01C0E276] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com John Zorn has written a few pieces with turntable in them. I don't know how he pulled it off though. It could have been very loose notes, like "play very fast here". "Forbidden Fruit" is one of them. It's on his "Spillane" CD and also a Kronos Quartet CD. Matt >From: "Denis Aldrich" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: turntable instrument? >Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 22:49:33 -0500 > >Just thinking. Is there music score for turntable? Self expression seems >important, but to communicate that on paper, so someone else can play it, >seems a stretch for a table. Instruments that I am aware of have music >writen for them. Well????? >Denis >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 00:24:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA15197; Tue, 22 May 2001 00:23:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:23:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAwzAQuB/vuO4QkFFkzH/LAWPyKRgCFGMCfyWjdr21Szmu8KmiCTBwKid7 From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:22:26 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: playing w/ dj's Message-ID: <28382-3B09E982-1925@storefull-248.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "Patrick Bailey" 's message of Mon, 21 May 2001 17:23:02 -0700 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com funny,ive had the direct opposite experience.why is it that people try to cover up the fact that something is crap by using the word "new".Fact is...there is nothing new under the sun.some things endure......for a reason!!!Some things (fads) run their course and fade away into obscurity.Gimmicks are no substitute for the real thing.We all know that deep down and thats why some people get so hot about it.But if it is fun and actually gives joy to the listener evoking beautiful thoughts...what could be wromg with it?????If its just another angry young man making noise,thank god for channel changers.If you create beauty.....let me be the first to thank you.The world needs more of that every day!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 00:34:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA15482; Tue, 22 May 2001 00:32:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:32:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRKkuKUj5sW8EZvLSgokBootILj4QIUUr2BV9ZXzBJHkCVAph54NOvTtro= From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:32:15 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: All you fascinating artists on the list. Message-ID: <28383-3B09EBCF-1487@storefull-248.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "Brad Chase" 's message of Mon, 21 May 2001 17:27:31 -0700 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com dear B, self doubt has plagued every sensitive,talented ,creator since time began.It held me back for years.Even when i got a standing ovation in Carnegie Hall for playing a guitar solo with another artists show....i still doubted my talent the next day!!!! After my wife died at a young age,something snapped inside me and the realization of the shortness of life changed my attitude forever!!!Just like magick.........If all your friends tell you your stuff sounds good IT PROBABLY IS.....Good Luck. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 00:41:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA15795; Tue, 22 May 2001 00:39:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:39:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: turntable instrument? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 21:38:51 -0700 Message-ID: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4418.65 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: turntable instrument? Thread-Index: AcDiclo9PM0j269rQKyAkNLZMY512gAATbBQ From: "Kim Flint" To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id AAA15767 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com the answer is yes. Of course they are very new systems, and I can't tell you anything about them. There is a guy named DJ A-Trak who has created such a system (I think he is in the skratch piklz). I guess DJ Radar also had something to do with it. I found it online for you: http://www.battlesounds.com/transcription.html dj radar (who uses an echoplex, btw.) has also scored turntable compositions for orchestra. I thought this interview was interesting: http://www.rawskills.com/scratch/dialogue/radar_interview.htm (this info brought to you by google and the search string "turntablism notation".) kim -----Original Message----- From: Denis Aldrich [mailto:joy_top@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 8:50 PM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: turntable instrument? Just thinking. Is there music score for turntable? Self expression seems important, but to communicate that on paper, so someone else can play it, seems a stretch for a table. Instruments that I am aware of have music writen for them. Well????? Denis _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 00:51:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA15984; Tue, 22 May 2001 00:50:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:50:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [209.163.54.66] From: "Denis Aldrich" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: turntable instrument? Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:49:18 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 May 2001 04:49:19.0228 (UTC) FILETIME=[8FC47BC0:01C0E27A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com But, but, but, but,b-b-b-b. Music is writen though for drums and guitar. I would say Jimi had a way of articulation. :-0 Your turn. Denis From: stanitarium@earthlink.net hold on now -not all music has to be written down-where is that said? two examples off the top o' my head:'burundi' drummers of africa have there music handed down(physically and emotionally) generation by generation as many other musics are and you will *never* see a transcription of the wonderful,powerful feedback squalls of jimi hendrix that are as deep and fulfilling musically (for me) as music in all its veritables will ever B gettin! in my very humble opinion... stanner _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 00:54:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA16104; Tue, 22 May 2001 00:53:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:53:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhQZbfFC8VxH8pqLY35ZwZd7IsGRTAIVAMIU67DMJ/9bAxECCpSfh4lxKqYs From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:52:51 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: All you fascinating artists on the list. Message-ID: <28379-3B09F0A3-4296@storefull-248.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender)'s message of Tue, 22 May 2001 00:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com realized i dint finish my idea.witch waz;;after she died and i stopped letting self doubt hold me back i just turned my writing and playing up to ten and now i am constantly being asked to put guitar parts and vocals and even bass(not my axe)on peoples albums and making a good living.Go for it.If you believe.........the rest will believe.It comes out in the music.Im assuming that you have the necessary skills.....again,good luck.Do your Will,,,, Now im really outa here.gotta practice scales and arpeggios.remember my dream???follow yours bro.If someone doesnt like what yiou are doing....who gives a s---.If someone YOU respect doesnt like it, well..............thats another story.Ry Cooder loved my stuff.That did it for me.Off to another world now,called hard work and practice......best From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 01:57:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA18022; Tue, 22 May 2001 01:55:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 01:55:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002d01c0e284$16d08a60$0fee5818@nc.rr.com> Reply-To: "diatom drone" From: "diatom drone" To: References: Subject: Re: turntable instrument? Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 01:57:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well, John Cage did a piece (one of the Imaginary Landscape ones) including 3 record players playing records of a sine wave at different speeds, if I remember correctly, and the performers would just change the speed. Cooler than it sounds! Try to find an mp3 it's pretty fun stuff. Some girls make unhappy faces during some of the high tones though. Smaller earbones? Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: Denis Aldrich To: Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 11:49 PM Subject: turntable instrument? > Just thinking. Is there music score for turntable? Self expression seems > important, but to communicate that on paper, so someone else can play it, > seems a stretch for a table. Instruments that I am aware of have music > writen for them. Well????? > Denis > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 02:02:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA19215; Tue, 22 May 2001 02:00:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 02:00:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000201c0e284$2d2788e0$48a86fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: <3.0.5.32.20010521093021.00bace00@mail.well.com> Subject: Re: "do what thou wilt" (was Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song) Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 19:12:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > also, his experience of eastern religious systems provides non-obvious > interpretations of "thou" and "law" and so on. it can be seen as a > statement of fact, more so than a statement of ethics/amorality. of > course, ko-jella/b-bender may know all of this. > I agree with your thrust. However Crowley followed the Western magical tradition of the Quabalah. Circles of chanting and highly repetitious chants feature heavily in the magical tradition. How's that for surround sound looping ! I love the eccentric orbit of this group. Gareth. lidoffadaffodil From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 02:09:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA19426; Tue, 22 May 2001 02:08:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 02:08:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAwAKL1VabC4eHYWBL1cSQ/6JrVjQCFQChHZn8vGbhyPQH1zcQySDiTztuGg== From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 02:07:41 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: "do what thou wilt" (was Re: playing w/ dj's: a playlist is not a song) Message-ID: <28538-3B0A022D-1341@storefull-242.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: "whiteoakstudios" 's message of Mon, 21 May 2001 19:12:30 +0100 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com amen.what an orbit....i dont think i ve heard a technical issue discussed since i dropped in....j "Do What Thou Wilt,Shall Be the Whole Of the Law" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 02:20:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA19600; Tue, 22 May 2001 02:18:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 02:18:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "omjn" To: "Loopers-Delight" Subject: RE: turntable instrument? Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 14:17:44 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <002d01c0e284$16d08a60$0fee5818@nc.rr.com> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi all, i did an installation a couple of years back for a final year assignment for my BA which used old 78`s and recordings of the "classic" composers, all looping in knife etched grooves on eight turntables arranged in a large circle in the performance space. the audience, in this case the class, all sat inside the circle and I moved around the outside changing volumes and discussing the circular philosophy informing the piece. that was a lot of fun and got a good reaction from the group. they suggested i hook up some sort of robotic setup to control the turntables to create some of robotic decomposed composers setup. As per John Cage, i understand he used turntables quite a bit, and soem of his scores are explicitly written for them. cheers michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 02:29:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA19769; Tue, 22 May 2001 02:27:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 02:27:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010522062706.51525.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:27:06 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: I hope this doesn't strain Gibson's advertising budget....... To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <1NHC1D.A.v0E.7agC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/2001/Echoplex-Digital-Pro.html Maybe they should get Ace Frehley to endorse the EDP. "With my Gibson Echoplex, I can suck twice as much AND in reverse!" They could do a package deal & combine the EDP with the Ace Frehley Les Paul! Nine Loops!(one for each toe!), Three Humbucking Pick-Ups!(one for each day of the week!). Please excuse me. I feel better now. :) John ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 02:34:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA20056; Tue, 22 May 2001 02:33:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 02:33:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B0A0842.D13167FA@ecu.edu.au> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 14:33:38 +0800 From: Andy Copeman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: arion 4-second delay/sampler Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, Does anyone have a schematic for the Arion 4-second delay/sampler? I want tp add an external switching arrangement to allow me to footswitch between rec and play. cheers Andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 02:44:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA20295; Tue, 22 May 2001 02:43:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 02:43:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:35:57 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: I hope this doesn't strain Gibson's advertising budget....... In-reply-to: <20010522062706.51525.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <20010522062706.51525.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Gibson is the "Evil Empire." My personal plea is that people permanently boycott Gibson in memory of the smaller companies they have absorbed in Borg-like fashion. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 02:44:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA20293; Tue, 22 May 2001 02:42:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 02:42:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010522064234.92298.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:42:34 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: New Midi Controller To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/2001/Bit-Stream-Pro.html Knobs, Sliders, Buttons...AND an LFO! ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 02:44:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA20325; Tue, 22 May 2001 02:43:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 02:43:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAuAhUAsf0vIUy6AoQFYM6nmJIPjXxbXr4CFQC2T1cU4zEsAAJ/E5/PD6UNI8yFXg== From: ko-jella@webtv.net ('b'bender) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 02:43:10 -0400 (EDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: I hope this doesn't strain Gibson's advertising budget....... Message-ID: <26178-3B0A0A7E-3333@storefull-246.iap.bryant.webtv.net> In-Reply-To: John Tidwell 's message of Mon, 21 May 2001 23:27:06 -0700 (PDT) Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: <4TKFcB.A.Z9E.BqgC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com thanks john.....very much!!!!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 04:30:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA23652; Tue, 22 May 2001 04:28:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 04:28:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <20010522062706.51525.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> <20010522062706.51525.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 01:27:16 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: I hope this doesn't strain Gibson's advertising budget....... Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 11:35 PM -0700 5/21/01, Richard Zvonar wrote: >Gibson is the "Evil Empire." My personal plea is that people >permanently boycott Gibson in memory of the smaller companies they >have absorbed in Borg-like fashion. >-- those of us who have managed to work successfully with Gibson for years without getting ourselves screwed over, and are finally beginning to see some fruits of all the years if labor we've invested the EDP, would really appreciate it if you didn't do that. Afterall, Gibson's put a lot of effort and money keeping this product alive. Nothing forced them to do that, they just believed in it and believed in the potential of looping. Since this is a forum about looping, and the echoplex is a product many people seem to like here, it seems to me it should be a reason to praise Gibson, not dis them. For years people complained that Gibson wasn't doing enough for the echoplex. (although that was still a lot more than most other companies did for looping...) Now Gibson is doing something substantial, so we are supposed to hate them for supporting the looping community? That makes no sense. And I certainly don't see the point of trying to destroy the folks here who have put so much of themselves into creating new looping tools and instruments for this group. Whether you grasp it or not, that's exactly what you seem to be proposing. Matthias might finally stand a chance to make back some of the large amounts of time and money he invested in all of this. (me too, although not nearly so much.) Why do you want to take us down and deny us that, after all the work we've done for you? It IS all connected. You can't harm one part without harming the other. And for your silly boycott, if you take a look at Gibson's acquisitions, all of those companies had done an excellent job of destroying themselves well before Gibson came upon them. Gibson just shops for bargains, of which there are plenty in the music biz. This is not exactly the land of smart businessmen. Gibson may not always be easy to love, but blaming them for the screwups of others seems to be taking it a little far. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 05:48:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA25350; Tue, 22 May 2001 05:45:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 05:45:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010522054348.007c1a40@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 05:43:48 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: I hope this doesn't strain Gibson's advertising budget....... In-Reply-To: <20010522062706.51525.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <_jWuL.A.5LG.IUjC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I can just imagine the meeting at which they told him "Umm, well, Mr. Frehley, it seems extensive marketing research has indicated that the demographic segment that would find a guitar with a decal of your face on the headstock attractive unfortunately finds it impractical to actually purchase a Gibson Les Paul. We're going to transfer your model to our lower-priced Epiphone line. Sorry." Ace: "Awwwww...." -t At 11:27 PM 5/21/01 -0700, you wrote: >Maybe they should get Ace Frehley to endorse the EDP. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 06:58:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA27180; Tue, 22 May 2001 06:46:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 06:46:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00d401c0e2ac$4aea5f60$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: All you fascinating artists on the list. Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:45:10 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <9jiD9.A.joG.mNkC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "Brad Chase" put forth: > Howdy- To the List at Large: > Here is a simple question.......was Jackson Pollack an artist? > Why? I was recently the beneficiary of the National Health in, strangely enough, Chelsea Westminster, the same hospital where Jimi Hendrix was declared dead - for a bout with kidney stones, which, I can tell you, will provide profound contrast to one's life no matter WHO you are or WHAT you do for a living. While getting more water through me than I can figure, and recovering from a bad painkiller cocktail administered during admission (which if not for my wife might have granted me a real coma, thanks to my first allergic reaction to a drug), my eyes cleared enough from the morphine to be able to read. I had gotten a copy of the great Kurt Vonnegut's "TimeQuake" while travelling in early April, and thought I should pick it up again. This was an extremely good decision, as the following excerpt will undoubtedly show (italics surrounded by *, and the excerpt surrounded by brackets). I think this answers a lot of questions about our current subject-for-rehashing - and helps distinguish between the two areas we are arguing, one being Music, and the other, Art. >From "TimeQuake": [ Question: What is the white stuff in bird poop? Answer: That is bird poop, too. So much for science, and how helpful it can be in these times of environmental calamities. Chernobyl is still hotter than a Hiroshima baby carriage. Our underarm deodorants have eaten holes in the ozone layer. And just get a load of this: My big brother Bernie, who can't draw for sour apples, and who at his most objectionable used to say he didn't like paintings because they didn't *do* anything, just hung there year after year, has this summer become an artist! I shit you not! Thsi Ph.D. physical chemist from MIT is now the poor man's Jackson Pollock! He squoozles glurp of various colors and consistencies between two flat sheets of impermeable materials, such as windowpanes or pathroom tiles. He pulls them apart, *et voila!* This has nothing to do with his cancer. He didn't know he had it yet, and the malignancy was in his lungs and not his brain in any case. He was just farting around one day, a semi-retired old geezer without a wife to ask him what in the name of God he thought he was doing, *et voila!* Better late than never, that's all I can say. So he sent me some black-and-white Xeroxes of his squiggly miniatures, mostly dendriticforms, maybe trees or shrubs, maybe mushrooms or umbrellas full of holes, but really quite interesting. Like my ballroom dancing, they were *acceptable*. He has since sent me multicolored originals, which I like a lot. The message he sent me along with the Xeroxes, though, wasn't about unexpected happiness. It was an unreconstructed technocrat's challenge to the artsy-fartsy, of which I was a prime exemplar. "Is this art or not?" he asked. He couldn't have put that question so jeeringly fifty years ago, of course, before the founding of the first wholly American school of painting, Abstract Expressionism, and the deification in particular of Jack the Dripper, Jackson Pollock, who also couldn't draw for sour apples. Bernie said, too, that a very interesting *scientific phenomenon* was involved, having to do, he left me to guess, with how different glurps behave when squoozled this way and that, with nowhere to go but up or down or sideways. If the artsy-fartsy world had no use for his pictures, he seemed to imply, his pictures could still point the way to better lubricants or suntan lotions, or who knows what? The all-new Preparation H! He would not sign his pictures, he said, or admit publicly that he had made them, or describe how they were made. He plainly expected puffed-up critics to sweat bullets, and excrete sizable chunks of masonry when trying to answer his cunningly innocent question: "Art or not?" I was pleased to reply with an ipistle which was frankly vengeful, since he and Father had screwed me out of a liberal arts college education: "Dear Brother: This is almost like telling you about the birds and the bees," I began. "There are many good people who are beneficially stimulated by some, but not all, manmade arrangements of colors and shapes on flat surfaces, essentially *nonsense*. "You yourself are gratified by some music, arrangements of noises, and again essentially *nonsense*. If I were to kick a bucket down the cellar stairs, and then say to you that the racket I had made was philosophically on a par with *The Magic Flute*, this would not be the beginning of a long and upsetting debate. An utterly satisfactory and complete response on your part would be, 'I like what Mozart did, and I hate what the bucket did.' "Contemplating a purported work of art is a social activity. Either you have a rewarding time, or you don't. You don't have to say *why* afterward. You don't have to say anything. "You are a justly revered experimentalist, dear Brother. If you really want to know whether your pictures are, as you say, 'art or not,' you must display them in a public place somewhere, and see if strangers like to look at them. That is the way the game is played. Let me know what happens." I went on: "People capable of liking some paintings or prints or whatever can rarely do so without knowing something about the artist. Again, the situation is social rather than scientific. Any work of art is half of a conversation between two human beings, and it helps a lot to know who is talking at you. Does he or she have a reputation for seriousness, for religiosity, for suffering, for concupiscence, for rebellion, for sincerity, for jokes? "There are virtually no respected paintings made by persons about which we know zilch. We can even surmise quite a bit about the lives of whoever did the paintings in the caverns underneath Lascaux, France. "I dare to suggest that no picture can attract serious attention without a particular sort of human being attached to it in the viewer's mind. If you are unwilling to claim credit for your pictures, and to say why you hoped others might find them worth examining, there goes the ball game. "Pictures are famous for their humanness, and not for their pictureness." I went on: "There is also the matter of craftsmanship. Real picture-lovers like to *play along*, so to speak, to look closely at the surfaces, to see how the illusion was created. If you are unwilling to say how you made your pictures, there goes the ball game a second time..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 07:08:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA27253; Tue, 22 May 2001 06:51:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 06:51:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: I hope this doesn't strain Gibson's advertising budget....... Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 05:43:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <5mFpd.A.mpG.PSkC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com You Sir, are a buffoon!. Speaking from the 'Collective', I like to think I know the music industry fairly well, having worked for Trace Elliot for 15 years and I'd like to make a point. If Gibson hadn't of bought us 2 years ago, Trace would have been dissolved; I still have my 13-years Redundancy notice framed on the wall. I know the 60 people I work with, who all have a passion for music, are very grateful that they can carry on doing the jobs they love. There are no other music companies anywhere in our area so we would all have had to either move or find jobs in other industries. I know to the outside, Gibson appear to buy and destroy small companies, but the reality is, these guys are usually in serious trouble before Gibson step in; we were. For some it's too late, Opcode being an example. I now know the real reasons for the failure and closure of such businesses and it cannot be blamed on any callous act by Gibson. Having spent quite some time now with Henry Juszkiewicz, I have nothing but respect for him and his vision, he's not the mad megalomaniac some would like to believe. Letting us have manufacture of the Echoplex is a gift; very few products I have ever dealt with have had such a following and demand. This has been a great challenge for us as digital stuff was just 'something other people did' as we are first and foremost analogue amp MOSFET/TUBE designers, something we can continue to be, thanks to Gibson. Please think in future before making such ill-informed, defamatory remarks. I thought someone with a PhD might have slightly more intelligence and foresight, Best regards, Andy @ Trace, Echoplex Project Leader. > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Zvonar [mailto:zvonar@zvonar.com] > Sent: 22 May 2001 07:36 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: I hope this doesn't strain Gibson's advertising > budget....... > > > Gibson is the "Evil Empire." My personal plea is that people > permanently boycott Gibson in memory of the smaller companies they > have absorbed in Borg-like fashion. > -- > > ______________________________________________________________ > Richard Zvonar, PhD > (818) 788-2202 > http://www.zvonar.com > http://RZCybernetics.com > http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone > http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 07:09:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA27309; Tue, 22 May 2001 06:58:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 06:58:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 06:57:35 -0400 Subject: HELP!!!! From: Steve Sandberg To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200105220434.AAA15554@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3073359455_8326459_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: <6PBn4C.A.fqG.cYkC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3073359455_8326459_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Can anyone help? I have an extremely important solo show at the Knitting Factory tonight in New York. I've just gotten up -- it's 7 AM -- and my EDP is not working. When I turn it on, all that happens is "Loop 3" flashes over and over. Is there any way to reset it? Also, -- and this is asking a lot -- is there anyne in NYC with an EDP who would lend it or rent it to me for one night? Thanks . . . --MS_Mac_OE_3073359455_8326459_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable HELP!!!! Can anyone help?  I have an extremely important solo sh= ow at the Knitting Factory tonight in New York.  I've just gotten up --= it's 7 AM -- and my EDP is not working.  When I turn it on, all that h= appens is "Loop 3" flashes over and over.  
Is there any way to reset it?
Also, -- and this is asking a lot -- is there anyne in NYC with an EDP who = would lend it or rent it to me for one night?  
Thanks . . . --MS_Mac_OE_3073359455_8326459_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 07:19:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA28727; Tue, 22 May 2001 07:18:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 07:18:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 07:19:11 -0400 Subject: HELP!!! update From: Steve Sandberg To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200105101648.MAA31167@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3073360751_8404409_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3073360751_8404409_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit It's 5 minutes later and my EDP is now working - I'm very nervous, though. I've publicized this concert quite a bit to colleagues and press and it's all EDP-based. It wold be really scary if it just didn't work tonight. It seems to have turned itself on after about 5 or 10 minutes of me turning it off and on. Finally I think I just left it on for a few minutes and it fixed itself, at least for the moment. I can't be sure, but I think yesterday it might have been acting funny -- not responding to foot pressed the way it normally does. I chalked it up to bad button presses on my part but could it have been an intimation of things to come? Has anyone had an experience like this? --MS_Mac_OE_3073360751_8404409_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable HELP!!! update It's 5 minutes later and my EDP is now working - I'm very ne= rvous, though.
I've publicized this concert quite a bit to colleagues and press and it's a= ll EDP-based.
It wold be really scary if it just didn't work tonight.
It seems to have turned itself on after about 5 or 10 minutes of me turning= it off and on.  Finally I think I just left it on for a few minutes an= d it fixed itself, at least for the moment.
I can't be sure, but I think yesterday it might have been acting funny -- n= ot responding to foot pressed the way it normally does.  I chalked it u= p to bad button presses on my part but could it have been an intimation of t= hings to come?
Has anyone had an experience like this?
 --MS_Mac_OE_3073360751_8404409_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 07:32:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA28899; Tue, 22 May 2001 07:31:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 07:31:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 07:32:03 -0400 Subject: HELP p.p.s From: Steve Sandberg To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200105101648.MAA31167@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3073361523_8450801_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3073361523_8450801_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Last thing about this EDP thing -- as I turned it on and off, I kept trying holding down different buttons on the rack unit as I turned it on, trying to find some factory reset. When it did start working again, all the parameters were back to factory settings, and I had to reset my own. Did I find the magic factory reset combination without knowing it? --MS_Mac_OE_3073361523_8450801_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable HELP p.p.s Last thing about this EDP thing -- as I turned it on and off= , I kept trying holding down different buttons on the rack unit as I turned = it on, trying to find some factory reset.
When it did start working again, all the parameters were back to factory se= ttings, and I had to reset my own.  Did I find the magic factory reset = combination without knowing it?
 --MS_Mac_OE_3073361523_8450801_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 07:39:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA29049; Tue, 22 May 2001 07:37:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 07:37:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B0A6ADF.AAC9FF5@vtx.ch> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:34:23 +0000 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: HELP!!! update References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Steve Sandberg wrote: > > It's 5 minutes later and my EDP is now working - I'm very nervous, > though. > I've publicized this concert quite a bit to colleagues and press and > it's all EDP-based. > It wold be really scary if it just didn't work tonight. > It seems to have turned itself on after about 5 or 10 minutes of me > turning it off and on. Finally I think I just left it on for a few > minutes and it fixed itself, at least for the moment. > I can't be sure, but I think yesterday it might have been acting funny > -- not responding to foot pressed the way it normally does. I chalked > it up to bad button presses on my part but could it have been an > intimation of things to come? > Has anyone had an experience like this? 1- did you try to boot without the foot controller attached (sticky record switch possibility----long "record" means --reset) 2- the magic reset is boot with "parameters" pressed 3- It would be wise to try to have a look inside if the ram chips are tight in the slots hope this helps Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 07:53:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA29292; Tue, 22 May 2001 07:51:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 07:51:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010522054849.007c9a80@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 05:48:49 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: Hi again!... In-Reply-To: <3B09A592.5F7533E0@vtx.ch> References: <3.0.5.32.20010521144339.0091aa00@mail.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <2bqkhD.A.jJH.7JlC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 11:32 PM 5/21/01 +0000, you wrote: >Corynne >welcome back >almost 4 years .... Woohoo! has it really been that long?! wow, what a trip! lol! >same old farts around, with some soon to be OF and some very interesting >newbie's > >guys, behave. A looping lady is in tha house! Awe, yer' sweet. *laughing* Though some might prefer to replace the "ing" with a "y" instead! lollollol! anyway, someone wondered how a thread about looping could turn into one concerning Crowley so quickly. Well, only here, for one thing. -actually, I new a relative of his, several years ago. -Perhaps I should have asked if he played loop music, or if he ever DJ'ed. LOL! can ya see it? "This is DJ "C" spinin' the supernatural grooves as we spiral on into the Golden Dawn!" lollollol! OK, gettin' ready to get flamed! > > > > > > >Goddess wrote: >> >> -Just writing a quick note to say hello to the list. I was a >> member a few years ago, and decided to stop by again for a little while. >> -Love the DJ thread! I for one, think that "music" and creativity are >> only limited by our own imaginations. -and now having left a >> couple of pennies, I must run to go teach. Hope you're all having a >> wonderful day, talk with ya soon, K? >> >> Smiles, >> >> Goddess >> >> --- >> >> "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. >> -Then, anything is possible..." > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 08:15:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA30660; Tue, 22 May 2001 08:12:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 08:12:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010522061552.007ef410@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 06:15:52 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: Hi again!... In-Reply-To: <200105212325.QAA15669@scaup.mail.pas.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 04:27 PM 5/21/01 -0700, you wrote: >-wow a loopin lady-so what do ya know,ya know?and what do >ya teach? Stan, I teach guitar, and music theory. -or at least some days I do. lol! > me likes yer writin stylee... > >stanner -Thanks much, me likes yours as well. -and all of the nice warm hellos I'm getting. -Thanks... Smiles, Goddess >---------- >>From: Goddess >>To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >>Subject: Hi again!... >>Date: Mon, May 21, 2001, 1:43 PM >> > >> -Just writing a quick note to say hello to the list. I was a >>member a few years ago, and decided to stop by again for a little while. >>-Love the DJ thread! I for one, think that "music" and creativity are >>only limited by our own imaginations. -and now having left a >>couple of pennies, I must run to go teach. Hope you're all having a >>wonderful day, talk with ya soon, K? >> >>Smiles, >> >>Goddess >> >> >> >> >>--- >> >> "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. >>-Then, anything is possible..." >> >> > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 08:26:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA31044; Tue, 22 May 2001 08:24:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 08:24:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 08:17:29 EDT Subject: Re: Repeater Demo in Marin! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <2wNN3C.A.xkH.QplC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com rich@nuvisionsca.com writes: >some of it looks frightfully obsessive! me and a fellow >looper are definitely planning a remix! thanks david. love to hear it; thanks for the compliment..... best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 08:33:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA31179; Tue, 22 May 2001 08:31:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 08:31:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <107.37f6c3.283bb5b4@aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 08:29:40 EDT Subject: Re: turntable instrument? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com joy_top@hotmail.com writes: >Just thinking. Is there music score for turntable? Self expression seems >important, but to communicate that on paper, so someone else can play it, >seems a stretch for a table. Instruments that I am aware of have music >writen for them. Well????? 'turntablist transcription methodology' (TTM), by john carluccio, ethan imboden & raymond pirtle (aka dj raydawn, one of my son's ex-roomies). quite detailed. harrumph. add'ly, i'm sure that ye can find some musings on this subject (on the web) by paul miller (aka dj spooky). blurt. dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 09:04:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA32662; Tue, 22 May 2001 09:01:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 09:01:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <41.bc152f2.283bbc06@aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 08:56:38 EDT Subject: Re: hey all from randy clark and crowsong!!!!! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_41.bc152f2.283bbc06_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_41.bc152f2.283bbc06_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/21/01 10:19:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rclark@sirius.com writes: > please give me a yell as to where to send stuff. > i would love to hear your cd.....thanks michael klobuchar 352 grace st pittsburgh pa 15211 --part1_41.bc152f2.283bbc06_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/21/01 10:19:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rclark@sirius.com writes:


please give me a yell as to where to send stuff.


i would love to hear your cd.....thanks
michael klobuchar
352 grace st
pittsburgh pa 15211 --part1_41.bc152f2.283bbc06_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 09:16:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00392; Tue, 22 May 2001 09:14:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 09:14:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <897EEFCFE1DDD211B1F200105AF236E7CA1485@TOROTRAK_MAIL> From: Glyn Merga To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: Re: turntable instrument? Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 14:12:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Firstly Hello .. I have been lurking on this Mailing list for a while now. I think mostly the information in here is great and the humor even better (Againiator - I want one) Personally I have been playing guitar for 11 years for whatever that is worth ... I enjoy what I do and use it primarily as a retreat from the pressures of the job humm my two pennies worth now... I have few friends who DJ. They seem to split between your 'local club' or 'wedding reception' DJ and your 'up my own arse - no i don't make the music but I create the atmosphere in a room' DJ. One guy I know (Nathan) does actually loop using samples extracted form many different tracks and create his own tracks from these. (I have played guitar parts on one or two and continue to supply riffs whenever I write one I think he could use.) My POINT (At last) is that they all use the term 'DJ'. Nathan is much closer to a producer or an arranger than a DJ. He uses the name 'DJ' to fit nicely into a marketable product. Why do these people have to name / explain themselves in this way ? I suggest it is because without this descriptive element they would have to say '... hi ... I play other peoples records...oo oo... and I try to make them seamless by joining tracks of the same speed together when I play..' Not exactly equivalent to a guitarist learning over years and practicing for two hours a night ... But if you like what you do and gain enjoyment from it then it is good. No matter if it is regarded by the powers that be as a 'true' form of instrument of a valid art form ... Be judged by the end product ... not the path you choose to get there ... Guitarist Glyn - Musician Torotrak (Development) Ltd. http://www.torotrak.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 09:43:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00796; Tue, 22 May 2001 09:41:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 09:41:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: HELP!!!! Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 08:33:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0E2C3.CC64C992" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E2C3.CC64C992 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Steve, If it's been working in NY for some time, we can probably rule out the old 'crystal tolerance timing' problem. It's most likely to be faulty or dirty RAM SIMMs. Carefully remove each one in turn and clean the connector edges with either a fibreglass pencil, (used by draughtsman), or a standard rubber pencil eraser. I've also had the same problem with the EPROMS gradually working their way out of their sockets. If the RAM cleaning doesn't work, I'd remove each socket mounted chip in turn and re-seat them. Pressing Parameters while booting is the magic reset, but I think Claude has already mentioned this. Your continuous Loop 3 problem however, is very unlikely to be cured with a re-set. If all this fails, threaten it with severe physical damage; it probably still won't boot but you'll feel better. Good luck, let us know what happens, Andy. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Sandberg [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net] Sent: 22 May 2001 11:58 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: HELP!!!! Can anyone help? I have an extremely important solo show at the Knitting Factory tonight in New York. I've just gotten up -- it's 7 AM -- and my EDP is not working. When I turn it on, all that happens is "Loop 3" flashes over and over. Is there any way to reset it? Also, -- and this is asking a lot -- is there anyne in NYC with an EDP who would lend it or rent it to me for one night? Thanks . . . ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E2C3.CC64C992 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" HELP!!!!
Steve,
If it's been working in NY for some time, we can probably rule out the old 'crystal tolerance timing' problem. It's most likely to be faulty or dirty RAM SIMMs. Carefully remove each one in turn and clean the connector edges with either a fibreglass pencil, (used by draughtsman), or a standard rubber pencil eraser.
I've also had the same problem with the EPROMS gradually working their way out of their sockets. If the RAM cleaning doesn't work, I'd remove each socket mounted chip in turn and re-seat them.
Pressing Parameters while booting is the magic reset, but I think Claude has already mentioned this. Your continuous Loop 3 problem however, is very unlikely to be cured with a re-set.
If all this fails, threaten it with severe physical damage; it probably still won't boot but you'll feel better.
Good luck, let us know what happens,
Andy.
 
 
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Steve Sandberg [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net]
Sent: 22 May 2001 11:58
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: HELP!!!!

Can anyone help?  I have an extremely important solo show at the Knitting Factory tonight in New York.  I've just gotten up -- it's 7 AM -- and my EDP is not working.  When I turn it on, all that happens is "Loop 3" flashes over and over.  
Is there any way to reset it?
Also, -- and this is asking a lot -- is there anyne in NYC with an EDP who would lend it or rent it to me for one night?  
Thanks . . .
------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E2C3.CC64C992-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 10:18:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA02499; Tue, 22 May 2001 10:16:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:16:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 15:18:48 +0100 Subject: Re: hey all from randy clark and crowsong!!!!! From: roberto To: CC: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200105220219.f4M2JNO92141@mail1.sirius.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Randy and Crowsong I'd love to hear your CD. I run a small independent on-line distribution and there may be scope for distributing your CD as well, if it fits in.. I am particularly interested in looping and the guitar. Is it an independent production or are you with a label? You can have a look at the existing site (www.rustyrobot.com) although it's totally obsolete and in the next few days I am about to upload a completely new one with different design, new catalogue and credit card transaction facility. If you wish to send a copy the address is: 57 Great North Road, Barnet, Herts EN5 1AY United Kingdom Cheers Roberto ______________________________________________ Roberto Battista http://www.robat.scl.net http://www.robat.scl.net/lectures/index.shtm Tel. 0044 020 8449 1995 Mobile 0775 960 4344 ______________________________________________ http://www.rustyrobot.com independent on-line music distribution, the music you can't find elsewhere, contemporary classical, eclectic, world... ______________________________________________ http://www.robat.scl.net/html/tibet/tibet.shtm an exciting project on technology applied to mobile education for developing countries and remote locations... ______________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 11:30:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA04699; Tue, 22 May 2001 11:28:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:28:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B0A8585.DF86B529@cabq.gov> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 09:28:06 -0600 From: Jason Fink X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: diy racks? References: <004001c0e248$988130a0$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9aYrJD.A.RJB.uVoC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Jon, I built myself a 8 space rack and new speaker cab's, just kinda measured my stuff, and made them by the seat of my pants. Found some cheap tolex-like stuff at a cloth store and bought some nice spring loaded handles and metal corners from AllParts.com. Came out okay for a freshman effort. Here's a photo of the cabinets after tolex and before hardware installation. The rack had not yet gotten the tolex treatment... http://gisweb.cabq.gov/rig/rig1b.jpg Be glad to help if you want specifics, but most of the answers lie with a tape measure and your tablesaw! later, -jas http://dimbulb.org diatom drone wrote: > It seems to me like somebody recently posted a url that had measurements and > basics for making equipment racks from scratch, and as I'm setting up a home > studio anywhere I can save a few bucks is welcome. I searched the archive > with little luck, and the site seems to have magically disappeared from my > bookmarks. Does anyone have this link handy? Any and all info much > appreciated! > > Jon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 11:36:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA04881; Tue, 22 May 2001 11:34:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:34:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <29137-3B098C70-3292@storefull-245.iap.bryant.webtv.net> References: <29137-3B098C70-3292@storefull-245.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:33:52 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: traig Subject: Re: goodbye and thanks Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <1bRjYB.A.9LB.iboC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com uhhh, ...it's not a competition there fruitloop. so put down the jimmy page act and step slowly away from your 7th grade fascination with "the occult." see, all that's been done before little billy. so, stop acting like a pompus dumbass, put the guitar down and stop using multiple exclamation points. here's a real spooky one, you madman you, "if you listen to fools the mob rules." beat it punk, t please, no one write me and tell me "if you don't have anything nice to say please take your toys and go home." this idiot deserves it. he wouldn't know a "junkie/world traveller" if he was run over by burroughs. >ps;;i to have been a sex fiend,junkie,world traveler,avid >reader,writer,"madman"(as opposed to being normal.gawd forbid)and all >those other attributes the reader "accuses"?? Big Al of......I couldnt >get into the mountain climbing bit,tho. Dont make >you a bad person!!!! thanks again all for your feedback,gotta move >on,this is a biiiiiggggg internet!!! and,by the way,i >dont stay home,but living in the Big Apple,i am out every night ,and i >do hear it all.But unlike my friend,who couldnt put in the time,and >couldnt stand the competition he had to endure to became a really good >guitarist,i will not sell all my guitars and buy boxes and machines and >turntables to make it easy on myself!!I will still work hard at my >craft,practicing and writing for hours every day to achieve my >will,which is to be the best damn guitar player in the city!!! a hard >task ,i admit but one worth striving for.And if i only get part way >there,which i already have......the dream is the thing.If it be your >will to be the best looper,then all blessings be upon you!!My friend is >looping because he didnt have the talent to do what he really wanted to >do,and so i presume he will fail here also,because he will be competing >with loopers who do it because it is their will,not because they couldnt >handle the rigours of studying guitar. hence crowleys law.......find >your will,and DO IT.best to you all.May you do your will.....I'm >"already gone" > >"Do What Thou Wilt,Shall Be the Whole Of the Law" -- Traig Foltz Audio Production Specialist University of Notre Dame Office of Information Technology Office: (219)631 - 3752 Fax: (219) 631 - 8777 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 11:40:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA05059; Tue, 22 May 2001 11:38:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:38:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B0A8810.CB3BCA95@cabq.gov> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 09:38:57 -0600 From: Jason Fink X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: diy racks? Wrong URL! Sorry... References: <004001c0e248$988130a0$6401a8c0@nc.rr.com> <3B0A8585.DF86B529@cabq.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The URL Should be: http://gisweb2.cabq.gov/rig/rig1b.jpg Sorry for the boo boo... -jas Jason Fink wrote: > Jon, > > I built myself a 8 space rack and new speaker cab's, just kinda > measured my stuff, and made them by the seat of my pants. > Found some cheap tolex-like stuff at a cloth store and bought > some nice spring loaded handles and metal corners from AllParts.com. > Came out okay for a freshman effort. > > Here's a photo of the cabinets after tolex and before hardware installation. > The rack had not yet gotten the tolex treatment... > > http://gisweb.cabq.gov/rig/rig1b.jpg > > Be glad to help if you want specifics, but most of the answers lie > with a tape measure and your tablesaw! > > later, > -jas > http://dimbulb.org > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 12:10:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA06746; Tue, 22 May 2001 12:08:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 12:08:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <200105220434.AAA15554@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 09:06:28 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: HELP!!!! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 3:57 AM -0700 5/22/01, Steve Sandberg wrote: > Can anyone help? I have an extremely important solo show at the >Knitting Factory tonight in New York. I've just gotten up -- it's 7 AM -- >and my EDP is not working. When I turn it on, all that happens is "Loop >3" flashes over and over. that's what it does if there is something wrong with the memory. so my first guess would be like Andy said, try cleaning the simms and reseating them in the sockets. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 12:20:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA06977; Tue, 22 May 2001 12:18:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 12:18:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [207.217.34.34] From: "Professor Vast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Hi again!... Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 09:16:34 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 May 2001 16:16:34.0926 (UTC) FILETIME=[9228A8E0:01C0E2DA] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >From: Goddess >how a thread about looping could turn into one concerning Crowley so >quickly. Well, only here, for one thing. -actually, I new a >relative of his, several years ago. -Perhaps I should have asked if he >played loop music, or if he ever DJ'ed. LOL! can ya see it? >"This is DJ "C" spinin' the supernatural grooves as we spiral on into >the>Golden Dawn!" lollollol! OK, gettin' ready to get flamed! *looks extra cute* -it's just the insomnia, really... >>Smiles, >>Goddess believe me, i've perpetrated many a "random thread goes Crowley" meself on all kinds of lists. being an old zeppelin fiend, i found out about ole mister crowley thru reading about pagey's obsessions. though i think the guy was messing with stuff way over his head and that's what did him in. if he was still around, i think he'd be in the music scene somehow... imagine the raves he would throw. not just big parties, but supernatural events! imagine someone candyflipping at a crowley rave and the dimensional doors open and some flying dragons start coming thru... they'd just think it was really good acid ...whahahahah :-D db _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 12:26:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA07173; Tue, 22 May 2001 12:25:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 12:25:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [207.217.34.34] From: "Professor Vast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Recycle/Rebirth/Reason / Re: goodbye and thanks Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 09:24:28 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 May 2001 16:24:28.0132 (UTC) FILETIME=[AC362A40:01C0E2DB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com points... guitar playing is not a competition. i've been a guitarist for over 17 yrs and never did i try to compete with anyone. i always had my own goals and went after them. never did i think i wanted to be the best guitarist in any city. i always wanted to do my thing and get on with it. traig, why are you so irritated by this? if he wants to be a fruitloop and get his pagey fantasy on, let it be. you don't see him telling you how you should live your life. this is lame... i have Reason. I want to use a ton of Rebirth basslines thru the REX loop player. but it only lets me use different slices. anyone able to recommend quickie tips/shortcuts on slicing up the basslines? i already exported a Rebirth wav of all the basslines put together and now i wanna slice them in recycle. db >From: traig >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: goodbye and thanks >Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:33:52 -0500 > >uhhh, ...it's not a competition there fruitloop. so put down the >jimmy page act and step slowly away from your 7th grade fascination >with "the occult." see, all that's been done before little billy. >so, stop acting like a pompus dumbass, put the guitar down and stop >using multiple exclamation points. > >here's a real spooky one, you madman you, "if you listen to fools the >mob rules." > >beat it punk, >t > >please, no one write me and tell me "if you don't have anything nice >to say please take your toys and go home." this idiot deserves it. >he wouldn't know a "junkie/world traveller" if he was run over by >burroughs. > > > >>ps;;i to have been a sex fiend,junkie,world traveler,avid >>reader,writer,"madman"(as opposed to being normal.gawd forbid)and all >>those other attributes the reader "accuses"?? Big Al of......I couldnt >>get into the mountain climbing bit,tho. Dont make >>you a bad person!!!! thanks again all for your feedback,gotta move >>on,this is a biiiiiggggg internet!!! and,by the way,i >>dont stay home,but living in the Big Apple,i am out every night ,and i >>do hear it all.But unlike my friend,who couldnt put in the time,and >>couldnt stand the competition he had to endure to became a really good >>guitarist,i will not sell all my guitars and buy boxes and machines and >>turntables to make it easy on myself!!I will still work hard at my >>craft,practicing and writing for hours every day to achieve my >>will,which is to be the best damn guitar player in the city!!! a hard >>task ,i admit but one worth striving for.And if i only get part way >>there,which i already have......the dream is the thing.If it be your >>will to be the best looper,then all blessings be upon you!!My friend is >>looping because he didnt have the talent to do what he really wanted to >>do,and so i presume he will fail here also,because he will be competing >>with loopers who do it because it is their will,not because they couldnt >>handle the rigours of studying guitar. hence crowleys law.......find >>your will,and DO IT.best to you all.May you do your will.....I'm >>"already gone" >> >>"Do What Thou Wilt,Shall Be the Whole Of the Law" > >-- >Traig Foltz >Audio Production Specialist >University of Notre Dame >Office of Information Technology >Office: (219)631 - 3752 >Fax: (219) 631 - 8777 > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 13:04:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA09253; Tue, 22 May 2001 13:01:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:01:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 09:47:42 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: RE: I hope this doesn't strain Gibson's advertising budget....... In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 5:43 AM -0500 5/22/01, Andy Ewen wrote: >I know to the outside, Gibson appear to buy and destroy small companies, but >the reality is, these guys are usually in serious trouble before Gibson step >in; we were. For some it's too late, Opcode being an example. I now know the >real reasons for the failure and closure of such businesses and it cannot be >blamed on any callous act by Gibson. >Having spent quite some time now with Henry Juszkiewicz, I have nothing but >respect for him and his vision, he's not the mad megalomaniac some would >like to believe. Well, I guess I must just hang out with losers. Most of the reports I've gotten over the last ten years or so are that he's a bipolar type who is charming and enthusiastic at the outset but quickly turns into a raging litigator when the acquired company doesn't reach a 30% increase in profits in the first year. At 1:27 AM -0700 5/22/01, Kim Flint wrote: >And I certainly don't see the point of trying to destroy the folks here who >have put so much of themselves into creating new looping tools and >instruments for this group. Whether you grasp it or not, that's exactly >what you seem to be proposing. Matthias might finally stand a chance to >make back some of the large amounts of time and money he invested in all of >this. (me too, although not nearly so much.) Why do you want to take us >down and deny us that, after all the work we've done for you? It IS all >connected. You can't harm one part without harming the other. I didn't expect my suggestion to be taken seriously, and I don't have any I'll will toward those on the Echoplex team. I just wanted to provoke some discussion of the faustian nature of doing business with Gibson. Clearly you folks are benefiting from Uncle Henry's benevolent mode. Others have been less fortunate. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 13:30:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA09973; Tue, 22 May 2001 13:29:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:29:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <9FC36591111AD411854800508B9A24310CFA5C@NTSERVER> From: Barry Nelson To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: new to the land of looping Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:26:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com 'allo! i'm relatively new to looping and the actual composition/performance of music in general. i've been working with a combination of various software-based solutions for a little over a year now and badly want to dive into hardware. i've primarily been working with fruityloops (i have this sneaking suspicion that there are a million individuals quite like myself :), sound forge, and various software synths. i know this is an extremely broad question, but where would anyone recommend i begin in terms of hardware? i mean in the most general sense -- i don't mean specific pieces/brands of hardware, just general types of hardware (synths, samplers, drum machines, combos, etc.). i've done mostly a cross-breeding of trance, pop (pop in that my work generally has vocals...not really pop in any other way, so i suppose the "pop" description is somewhat tenuous), drum'n'bass, with a somewhat noticeable warp records influence. i'm looking to hardware because i'm becoming increasingly fed up with the noticeably poorer sound quality i get from being entirely software-based. again, just looking for advice, seeing as i've noticed that a large portion of the people on this list seem extremely helpful and knowledgeable (certainly moreso than myself). thanks very much...hope the person with the gig at knitting factory got everything up and running...that sounded rough... barry nelson From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 13:43:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA10425; Tue, 22 May 2001 13:41:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:41:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 09:37:45 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: Re: HELP!!! update Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id NAA10359 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I had a similar experience of intermittent strange voodoo, leading to a failure. I sent it back and it turned out to be a 'clock' problem. They fixed it fast though and Michael Ayers (thanks Mike!) got it back to me in about 1-1/2 weeks. I have no idea how service turnaround is going now. Good luck... Last name I remember is Shane Radtke? Best, -Miko >>> stevesandberg@earthlink.net 05/22/01 04:19AM >>> It's 5 minutes later and my EDP is now working - I'm very nervous, though. I've publicized this concert quite a bit to colleagues and press and it's all EDP-based. It wold be really scary if it just didn't work tonight. It seems to have turned itself on after about 5 or 10 minutes of me turning it off and on. Finally I think I just left it on for a few minutes and it fixed itself, at least for the moment. I can't be sure, but I think yesterday it might have been acting funny -- not responding to foot pressed the way it normally does. I chalked it up to bad button presses on my part but could it have been an intimation of things to come? Has anyone had an experience like this? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 13:49:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA10661; Tue, 22 May 2001 13:47:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:47:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:20:05 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: RE: I hope this doesn't strain Gibson's advertising budget....... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >You Sir, are a buffoon!. etc. Well. They certainly didn't do well by Opcode customers. I certainly understand that Opcode was basically moribund when purchased by Gibson. But Gibson appeared to just dismantle Opcode, almost immediately selling the current release version of Vision for $50 on the net and ceasing to provide support, upgrades or much of anything. That's their right. But why did they buy it in the first place if they didn't intend to do anything with it? They certainly had to take a big loss on the deal! Also, see these: ...electronic a cappella madness ......... ...extreme internet radio ... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 14:04:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA12224; Tue, 22 May 2001 14:00:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 14:00:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: "Damon Langlois (Electrix)" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Repeater Demo in Marin! Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 10:59:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey loopers, It seems like Don had a good time demoing Repeater on the weekend and it seems like a few of you had a good time grilling him. I just wanted everyone on the list to know that there is no funny business with the shipping of Repeaters. Yes, Alto will receive their order! We are quite simply shipping in the order we received P.O.s. We are definitely not playing favorites. We had stated from the beginning that we would ship on a first come first serve basis. Yes we received the Bananas order first, however, this first shipment will only take a week or so to go out to all the dealers. Respect, Damon Langlois Creative Director Electrix Tel (250) 544-4091 Fax (250) 544-4100 http://www.electrixpro.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 14:04:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA11091; Tue, 22 May 2001 13:57:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:57:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:29:12 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: new tracks of mine to download... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Lots of loopy stuff (Headrush, DL4, multiple delays w/feedback) in all the collaborative tracks. (No explicit loopers in my studio stuff but I think you'll like it just the same...) 1. Unreleased live tracks with Charles Cohen and me (in high and low quality) 2. Volectrix "Alfa Omego" CD now on line (in high, medium and low quality!) A cappella electronic music with Kid Lucky and me. 3. Studio tracks of mine. All parts played by me. /t ...electronic a cappella madness ......... ...extreme internet radio ... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 14:13:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA12607; Tue, 22 May 2001 14:08:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 14:08:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "Frank Bongers" To: Subject: New + Live Loop Performances Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 20:09:49 +0200 Message-ID: <003501c0e2ea$6448ef60$a48ffea9@music> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, I'm new to the list and would like to introduce myself : 26 years old, been producing music since I was 16, and currently making the step to "enjoy-making-electronic-music-live-alone". My question to the list is the following : I have been looking for the ultimate hardware live performance toolkit to play loop-based music. The only software program that came close to a good live-performance candidate is the toy called MixMan [and they're progressing with their DM2 controller]. However, it's not reliable in terms of stability [and I don't want to carry my PC every time]. So I made a list of what would be the perfect hardware candidate, and noticed there isn't one. * Roland SP808 : only 4 tracks [I mean, what can you do with less than 16 ?] * Yamaha RMX1x : I don't need synths included, and it doesn't seem to be suited for live performance * RS7000 : not out yet, and I don't have a good feeling about it So I finally got my eye on the MPC2000XL. This should be one of the most interesting machines to beb used live. A pity it only has 32 Mb ram maximum. However, I don't see a hold button, and I suppose if you mute a track, it won't mute audio, but instead midi. So not a perfect candidate after all ... My question to the list is : any loopers using hardware units to give a reliable live show ? -- Frank From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 14:16:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA12953; Tue, 22 May 2001 14:15:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 14:15:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Neil Goldstein" To: Subject: RE: Recycle/Rebirth/Reason / Re: goodbye and thanks Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:10:51 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Go over to http://www.reasonstation.net/board/ and post this, if it already hasn't been addressed. > i have Reason. I want to use a ton of Rebirth basslines thru the REX loop > player. but it only lets me use different slices. > > anyone able to recommend quickie tips/shortcuts on slicing up the > basslines? > i already exported a Rebirth wav of all the basslines put > together and now i > wanna slice them in recycle. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 15:23:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA15451; Tue, 22 May 2001 15:19:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 15:19:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00e901c0e2f3$d5955d80$6b44230a@mlameyer02> From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: References: <20010522064234.92298.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: New Midi Controller Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 15:17:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com OK, off the cuff brainstorm. Reading through the blurb about this one, I just thought of a use for one of the user defined functions. The blurb says: User defined MIDI events (mode 2) can be programmed with the following features: a.. .... b.. Programmable delay between MIDI messages c.. .... Cool! So, compose a sequence of notes or whatever CC's you want, and then spin a knob or move a fader or whatever to have some output generated at a programmed time interval. Neato. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Tidwell" To: "Loopers Delight" Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 2:42 AM Subject: New Midi Controller > > http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/2001/Bit-Stream-Pro.html > > Knobs, Sliders, Buttons...AND an LFO! > > ===== > John Tidwell > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 15:49:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA16164; Tue, 22 May 2001 15:46:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 15:46:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:40:07 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: RE: I hope this doesn't strain Gibson's advertising budget....... In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 1:20 PM -0400 5/22/01, Tom Ritchford wrote: >Well. [Gibson] certainly didn't do well by Opcode customers. As Keith McMillan commented about the Gibson acquisition: "This is the middle of the end for Opcode." >Also, see these: > > > Thanks for the Lynx links. I'm glad to know that the suit was properly settled. Very interesting account of the OB-Mx, Zeta, and G-WIZ. I have two copies of the ZIPI Gray Book. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 16:11:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA17831; Tue, 22 May 2001 16:08:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 16:08:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AKASHMUSIC@aol.com Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 16:06:59 EDT Subject: Re: turntable instrument? To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <3a.1559feba.283c20e4@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: <9JLJe.A.WWE.FcsC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Here are some thoughts that just came to mind: No one really cares anymore who is a real muscian or a non-musician or entertainer or faker or Real vs. Fraud. & the fact that we are in this dialog shows that it is a safe bet that it originated by folks born before 1970...just 1/2 kidding here...but after reading these posts, i'm surprised that some of the so called "old heads" on LD are infinitely and eternally "younger" it seems than one might imagine than some of their own contemporaries. & I do think music is today more marginalized and taken for granted now than any other time before in our history ( ironic as the delivery and technical capacity for the making and listening to of music is more advanced and better than ever, but thats another dialog-debate ) But to me, Music has always been to me a colorful - communicating food with flavors, languages, nuances and recipees and concoctions which have spanned time(s) as well as preceding our own individual consciousness to some degrees ( damn the older i get the hokier-new ageier i sound ), but music is and has always been with us as it always there for us to embrace in one way/form or another, ya knw? And this is clearly more of an old skool vs. new skool mentality where its more of a reflection of what the death of rock n roll and layers of the baby boomer rock n roll mentality means en masse and in niche circles to certain and various old skool heads means where for them music it seems that in general, music is and always has been expressed as more of a sport (once again that is IMHO) where to these guys whther on the Beavis and Butthead level or in the intellectual astute realms of Academic and High Critical thinking, their ideas of good and "music" or the musician are the only valid ideas as they can and will always see things based upon what they have seen or have been shown to be true. & it seems to these eyes and ears certain old skoolers or "old mentalities" are using music or the so called "flag" of music as a means to voice a need for personal validation that furthermore demands to be right and reveal the so called "truth" versus a "Fallacious" and annoying insurgency into their world of self/assigned/annointed validity...all that based upon their own notion of the artist as an artiste of desirable pedigree meaning the so called artiste did in fact write what they know and recognize, "produce it" and "perform it" using their own instrumentds to really be valid. but aint it funny how the "new skool" is clearly writing its music and producing its own music and performing its own music( though not all of them or a lot of them and right now only a handful of them are actually taking the lead in doing so, but they are still nonetheless doing it... and thats never enough of them IMHO) in a way that is perhaps communicated in a language which the old guard/old mentalities perceive as "crude" at best, when it is uequivocally musical and full of potential for musicianship to be expressed just as what the old skool ( whatever that may be ) holds as valid does... & yeah, folks gotta get out more and not necessarily trade in their model T's but make an attempt to understand the new skool without the judgements and weight they tend to place on things whenever old skoolers and young initiates bring their personal perspective to tht which is outside their common or usual experience(S). I would love to and am personally dyin to work with a DJ(s) who has the ability to thow it out mix it up and take the room higher using skills, science and moreover using their musicality which they clearly can and do posses anyways, I dont begrudge the DJ's who do just match bpms as I likewise dont really see too many so called "real musicians" with much incentive or initiative displayed in taking the path that leads to their ultimate - maximum musical potential to be actualized. but there is no "law" or axiom or litmus test you can steadfastly apply to an individual(S) to prove or disprove they are muscians...is there? :) & also consider Can a person who bakes a microwave dinner each nite for their own personal dinner on a daily basis call themselves a "chef" as opposed to the person who is trained in the "culinary arts" who makes and or even grows their own food from scratch as well as having been recognized by a body of their own peers and or various or certain "culinary academics", to be credible enough to be certified and assigned the staus of chef? & Who really cares ? That is unless of course your in the business of letting your certifications speak for you...which is not about music but all about you. But IMHO it all depends on more of your intentions and needs are and how you choose to live and listen (eat), cook and then hear (or setup the digestion of your food ) or how well you communicate the stuff that is compelling you to keep coming back to the process you use or choose to communicate and cook thru. & I do love cooking, but i love to talk and listen and i also like to tell stories and i love to listen and hear other peoples stories unfold even more than i like telling tales, but i dont need to have stories read to me outta a book ( i can get them in many formats ) and i dont necessarilly need my stories to have words or even any discernable music that a so called musician/turntablist/non-musician plays to hear the music inherent in something. and of course i get "gas", hehehehe! but it all derrives from "food" which is still "food" in the end, right? (good and bad is a different story but food is food) but consider that it is such a narrow and uncreative thing to do to try & narrow the definition of musicality and receiving music(s) into very specific and personally discernable parameters, n'est pas and to what purpose? But again the answers to the above are dependent upon how and what you need to be true. but if ya dig deeper, music needs a lot less of a consructed "us" to exist than it does need our bodies, our ears and hearts, souls to flesh out resonance and perhaps emerge a reconstructed "us". & I may be wrong here but music is a lot more mecurial and more elusive and paradoxical than any of us can describe or even attempt to define ( it is like trying to definitively define god to go & try to define music..i saw that debate here approx 2 years ago :). but music does need to be listened to and heard by whomever is there to bear witness to it more so than it needs to be judged or merited by any of us IMHO. Regards, John Price/AKASH "Remember to always kill youe expectations" www.akashmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 16:12:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA17967; Tue, 22 May 2001 16:11:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 16:11:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: landman@pop.ncal.verio.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:11:32 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) Subject: RE: Repeater Demo in Marin! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com A very public thanks to Damon and Electrix for clarifying this heretofore rather murky matter. This should make it easy for all of us to decide what we want to do... Looking forward to some massive looping fun w/ Repeater! Mark >Hey loopers, >It seems like Don had a good time demoing Repeater on the weekend and it >seems like a few of you had a good time grilling him. >I just wanted everyone on the list to know that there is no funny business >with the shipping of Repeaters. Yes, Alto will receive their order! We are >quite simply shipping in the order we received P.O.s. We are definitely not >playing favorites. We had stated from the beginning that we would ship on a >first come first serve basis. Yes we received the Bananas order first, >however, this first shipment will only take a week or so to go out to all >the dealers. > >Respect, > >Damon Langlois >Creative Director >Electrix >Tel (250) 544-4091 Fax (250) 544-4100 >http://www.electrixpro.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 16:30:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA18353; Tue, 22 May 2001 16:28:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 16:28:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 16:15:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Neal Trembath X-Sender: ntrembat@gecko To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: I hope this doesn't strain Gibson's advertising budget....... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <3IHziB.A.5dE.dssC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Someone's been getting a little too close to HJ's cigar smoke . . . From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 16:35:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA18503; Tue, 22 May 2001 16:33:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 16:33:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <013d01c0e2fe$4918b360$6687abd4@LucaFormentini> From: "luca" To: References: Subject: R: HELP!!!! Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 22:27:48 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0102_01C0E30E.6E79D7A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <-uM_lC.A.1gE.izsC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0102_01C0E30E.6E79D7A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HELP!!!!I have had the same problem (maybe Andy remembers that "italian" = edp arrived from Nashville). I think i remember Andy at Trace Elliott fixed it by cleaning eprom's = contacts... I think they were his first days into Edp's world. I can remember...you don't feel so stable when you Edp acts like that... luca ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Andy Ewen=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 3:33 PM Subject: RE: HELP!!!! Steve, If it's been working in NY for some time, we can probably rule out the = old 'crystal tolerance timing' problem. It's most likely to be faulty or = dirty RAM SIMMs. Carefully remove each one in turn and clean the = connector edges with either a fibreglass pencil, (used by draughtsman), = or a standard rubber pencil eraser. I've also had the same problem with the EPROMS gradually working their = way out of their sockets. If the RAM cleaning doesn't work, I'd remove = each socket mounted chip in turn and re-seat them. Pressing Parameters while booting is the magic reset, but I think = Claude has already mentioned this. Your continuous Loop 3 problem = however, is very unlikely to be cured with a re-set. If all this fails, threaten it with severe physical damage; it = probably still won't boot but you'll feel better. Good luck, let us know what happens, Andy. =20 =20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Steve Sandberg [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net] Sent: 22 May 2001 11:58 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: HELP!!!! Can anyone help? I have an extremely important solo show at the = Knitting Factory tonight in New York. I've just gotten up -- it's 7 AM = -- and my EDP is not working. When I turn it on, all that happens is = "Loop 3" flashes over and over. =20 Is there any way to reset it? Also, -- and this is asking a lot -- is there anyne in NYC with an = EDP who would lend it or rent it to me for one night? =20 Thanks . . .=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0102_01C0E30E.6E79D7A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HELP!!!!
I have had the same problem (maybe Andy = remembers=20 that "italian" edp arrived from Nashville).
I think i remember Andy at Trace = Elliott fixed it=20 by cleaning eprom's contacts...
I think they were his first days into = Edp's=20 world.
I can remember...you don't feel so = stable when you=20 Edp acts like that...
luca
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Andy Ewen
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 = 3:33 PM
Subject: RE: HELP!!!!

Steve,
If = it's been=20 working in NY for some time, we can probably rule out the old 'crystal = tolerance timing' problem. It's most likely to be faulty or dirty RAM = SIMMs.=20 Carefully remove each one in turn and clean the connector edges with either a = fibreglass pencil,=20 (used by draughtsman), or a standard rubber pencil=20 eraser.
I've also had=20 the same problem with the EPROMS gradually working their way out of = their=20 sockets. If the RAM cleaning doesn't work, I'd remove each socket = mounted chip=20 in turn and re-seat them.
Pressing=20 Parameters while booting is the magic reset, but I think Claude has = already=20 mentioned this. Your continuous Loop 3 problem however, is very = unlikely to be=20 cured with a re-set.
If = all this=20 fails, threaten it with severe physical damage; it probably still won't boot but you'll = feel=20 better.
Good luck, let=20 us know what happens,
Andy.
 
 
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Steve Sandberg=20 [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net]
Sent: 22 May 2001=20 11:58
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject:=20 HELP!!!!

Can anyone help?  I have an extremely important solo = show at the=20 Knitting Factory tonight in New York.  I've just gotten up -- = it's 7 AM=20 -- and my EDP is not working.  When I turn it on, all that = happens is=20 "Loop 3" flashes over and over.  
Is there any way to reset=20 it?
Also, -- and this is asking a lot -- is there anyne in NYC = with an=20 EDP who would lend it or rent it to me for one night? =  
Thanks . .=20 . ------=_NextPart_000_0102_01C0E30E.6E79D7A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 16:40:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA18691; Tue, 22 May 2001 16:38:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 16:38:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [207.189.148.4] From: "K. Michael Odnaloc" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: turntable instrument? Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 13:34:37 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 May 2001 20:34:37.0392 (UTC) FILETIME=[9E6D7D00:01C0E2FE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >But to me, Music has always been to me a colorful - communicating food with >flavors, "No, No, just eat this and then you'll understand me" Could work Kevin _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 17:41:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA20983; Tue, 22 May 2001 17:39:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 17:39:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <836AEDC9D836D211B4720001FA7EC2D202A7944D@ntemail1-tr.ius.indiana.edu> From: "LEE, THANIEL I" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: from thaniel Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 17:38:47 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com lets play name that strange idm band that i forgot the name of. they are from germany/sweden they composed a whole record using nothing but the sound of a malfunctioning sampler, and i forgot there name -thaniel From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 17:49:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA21200; Tue, 22 May 2001 17:48:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 17:48:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [62.104.212.66] From: "Robert Eberwein" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: pedantic chit chat [no looping] Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:47:27 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 May 2001 21:47:27.0053 (UTC) FILETIME=[CAF2D7D0:01C0E308] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Man! I wish there was a way to force Academics to live outside of Academia for 2 years every 5 years. They really have no idea how obnoxious they get ['cause students and faculty eat it up] and they might be decent people under all those letters and tweed. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 17:54:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA21431; Tue, 22 May 2001 17:52:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 17:52:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Brad Chase" To: Subject: RE: pedantic chit chat [no looping] Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 14:59:13 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: X-SLUIDL: 33E081C0-4A1B11D5-BA900001-02769B72 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Ya but they only bore each other 'cause us regular folks have learned not to pay attention to it. nyuk, nyuk...... one of the peons BC -----Original Message----- From: Robert Eberwein [mailto:robert_eberwein@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 9:47 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: pedantic chit chat [no looping] Man! I wish there was a way to force Academics to live outside of Academia for 2 years every 5 years. They really have no idea how obnoxious they get ['cause students and faculty eat it up] and they might be decent people under all those letters and tweed. _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 18:06:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA22908; Tue, 22 May 2001 18:04:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 18:04:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 18:03:40 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: pedantic chit chat [no looping] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Man! I wish there was a way to force Academics to live outside of >Academia for 2 years every 5 years. They really have no idea how >obnoxious they get ['cause students and faculty eat it up] and they >might be decent people under all those letters and tweed. gee, no one ever ripped me off in Academia like the Real World. of course, it's been a very long time for me, perhaps it's all changed now? /t ...electronic a cappella madness ......... ...extreme internet radio ... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 18:55:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA23908; Tue, 22 May 2001 18:43:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 18:43:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 23:43:13 -0700 Subject: welcome Frank Bongers From: Steve Lawson To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >>>I'm new to the list and would like to introduce myself : 26 years old, been producing music since I was 16, and currently making the step to "enjoy-making-electronic-music-live-alone".<<< Hi Frank, i'm assuming you're the same Frank Bongers who reviewed my album for Jazz Dimensions - thanks very much, glad you liked it! :o) Welcome to the list - it's great here! Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 19:01:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA24034; Tue, 22 May 2001 18:49:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 18:49:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 15:42:42 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: pedantic chit chat [no looping] In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1221550647==_ma============" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1221550647==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 6:03 PM -0400 5/22/01, Tom Ritchford wrote: >gee, no one ever ripped me off in Academia like the Real World. It happens. Academic raiders are just less likely to use lawyers to do it. >of course, it's been a very long time for me, perhaps it's all >changed now? Same as it ever was, I think (though it's been a while for me too). Academicians have been "sampling" each other from the beginning: Academic politics is the most vicious and bitter form of politics, because the stakes are so low. -Wallace Sayre "University politics are vicious precisely because the stakes are so small. " - Henry Kissinger (1923-) As Villa trenchantly points out, "Perhaps the conflict seems so strong because the stakes are so low." (as cited in Affleck, Allen, & DeLoatch, 1997). -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz --============_-1221550647==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: pedantic chit chat [no looping]
At 6:03 PM -0400 5/22/01, Tom Ritchford wrote:

gee, no one ever ripped me off in Academia like the Real World.

It happens. Academic raiders are just less likely to use lawyers to do it.


of course, it's been a very long time for me, perhaps it's all
changed now?


Same as it ever was, I think (though it's been a while for me too).

Academicians have been "sampling" each other from the beginning:


Academic politics is the most vicious and bitter form of politics, because the stakes are so low.
-Wallace Sayre


"University politics are vicious precisely because the stakes are so small. "
- Henry Kissinger (1923-)

As Villa trenchantly points out, "Perhaps the conflict seems so strong because the stakes are so low." (as cited in Affleck, Allen, & DeLoatch, 1997).


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--============_-1221550647==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 19:41:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA26428; Tue, 22 May 2001 19:39:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:39:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010522174340.007efc20@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 17:43:40 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: RE: Repeater Demo in Marin! In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I missed the beginning of this thread. Is the Repeater a hardware or software product? G At 10:59 AM 5/22/01 -0700, you wrote: >Hey loopers, >It seems like Don had a good time demoing Repeater on the weekend and it >seems like a few of you had a good time grilling him. >I just wanted everyone on the list to know that there is no funny business >with the shipping of Repeaters. Yes, Alto will receive their order! We are >quite simply shipping in the order we received P.O.s. We are definitely not >playing favorites. We had stated from the beginning that we would ship on a >first come first serve basis. Yes we received the Bananas order first, >however, this first shipment will only take a week or so to go out to all >the dealers. > >Respect, > >Damon Langlois >Creative Director >Electrix >Tel (250) 544-4091 Fax (250) 544-4100 >http://www.electrixpro.com > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 19:49:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA26676; Tue, 22 May 2001 19:47:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:47:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010522164229.0208dec0@mail.redmoon-music.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.redmoon-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 16:44:32 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: RE: Repeater Demo in Marin! In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010522174340.007efc20@mail.earthlink.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Goddess (04:43 PM 05/22/01) wrote: >I missed the beginning of this thread. Is the Repeater a hardware or >software product? It's hardware from a company called Electrix: http://www.electrixpro.com/ There is a lot of background information in the archives of the list which are accessible from: http://www.loopers-delight.com/loop.html Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 19:52:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA26928; Tue, 22 May 2001 19:51:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:51:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <014a01c0e319$db2a8ba0$6b44230a@mlameyer02> From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: References: <3.0.5.32.20010522174340.007efc20@mail.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Repeater Demo in Marin! Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:49:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The Repeater is a forthcoming hardware looping device by Electrix: http://www.electrixpro.com/ If you browse the archives on Loopers-delight.com, you'll see endless posts regarding it. The Repeater threads have spawned a significant amount of discussion, which has been somewhat overblown on the list. You may see people begging you not to start another Repeater thread, because so much whining and counter whining has already made the rounds here a couple times. Browse the archives and you should learn all you need. ;-) Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Goddess" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 7:43 PM Subject: RE: Repeater Demo in Marin! > I missed the beginning of this thread. Is the Repeater a hardware or > software product? > > G > > At 10:59 AM 5/22/01 -0700, you wrote: > >Hey loopers, > >It seems like Don had a good time demoing Repeater on the weekend and it > >seems like a few of you had a good time grilling him. > >I just wanted everyone on the list to know that there is no funny business > >with the shipping of Repeaters. Yes, Alto will receive their order! We are > >quite simply shipping in the order we received P.O.s. We are definitely not > >playing favorites. We had stated from the beginning that we would ship on a > >first come first serve basis. Yes we received the Bananas order first, > >however, this first shipment will only take a week or so to go out to all > >the dealers. > > > >Respect, > > > >Damon Langlois > >Creative Director > >Electrix > >Tel (250) 544-4091 Fax (250) 544-4100 > >http://www.electrixpro.com > > > > > > > --- > > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. > -Then, anything is possible..." > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 19:54:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA27056; Tue, 22 May 2001 19:52:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:52:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010522175659.007f76c0@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 17:56:59 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: RE: Repeater Demo in Marin! In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010522164229.0208dec0@mail.redmoon-music.com> References: <3.0.5.32.20010522174340.007efc20@mail.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks much, Mark. Have a wonderful day, K? G At 04:44 PM 5/22/01 -0700, you wrote: >Goddess (04:43 PM 05/22/01) wrote: > > >I missed the beginning of this thread. Is the Repeater a hardware or > >software product? > >It's hardware from a company called Electrix: > > http://www.electrixpro.com/ > > >There is a lot of background information in the archives of the list which >are accessible from: > > http://www.loopers-delight.com/loop.html > > >Mark > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 19:58:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA27208; Tue, 22 May 2001 19:57:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:57:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PMimlitsch@aol.com Message-ID: <88.6d174f0.283c56aa@aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:56:26 EDT Subject: Stick SB8 Sale To: Sticknews@aol.com, taptalk@progrock.net, STICKWIRE-L@home.ease.lsoft.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Mac - Post-GM sub 147 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Chapman Stick SB8 - Rosewood (7 pc. laminated - great stability) w/ active Block Pickup Module, fully adjustable bridge/ pickups/ truss rod. Complete w/neck strap, stereo cord, hard bodied SE "Flight Case" and SE gig bag. Mint Condition. $1400.00 (serious offers considered). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 20:07:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA28568; Tue, 22 May 2001 20:05:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 20:05:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 20:04:38 -0400 Subject: Re: Stick SB8 Sale From: antonio melo To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <88.6d174f0.283c56aa@aol.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com sounds fantastic, is there a photo and/or site where i can take a peak and gain more info please. very interested. > From: PMimlitsch@aol.com > Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:56:26 EDT > To: Sticknews@aol.com, taptalk@progrock.net, STICKWIRE-L@home.ease.lsoft.com, > Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com > Subject: Stick SB8 Sale > Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:57:16 -0400 > > Chapman Stick SB8 - Rosewood (7 pc. laminated - great stability) w/ active > Block Pickup Module, fully adjustable bridge/ pickups/ truss rod. Complete > w/neck strap, stereo cord, hard bodied SE "Flight Case" and SE gig bag. Mint > Condition. $1400.00 (serious offers considered). > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 20:12:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA28709; Tue, 22 May 2001 20:09:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 20:09:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 17:08:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Rik Elswit Message-Id: <200105230008.RAA16010@well.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Repeater Demo in Marin! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com During the repeater demo, Don made a point of the fact that Electrix has a bunch of these things already built and awaiting the final software. Once it's set, they simply load it in from the card, and move it out to the dealers. My apologies if it sounded as if Bananas was getting a bunch of them and everybody else has to wait. Not true. We aer getting the first shipment because we placed the first order. That will give us about a 10 minute head start. All the Electrix rep was doing was trying to get folks to buy at the demo. That's his job. Rik From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 20:22:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA28917; Tue, 22 May 2001 20:18:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 20:18:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 20:17:58 EDT Subject: Re: turntable instrument? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_fc.6aae3f3.283c5bb6_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_fc.6aae3f3.283c5bb6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/22/01 4:08:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, AKASHMUSIC@aol.com writes: > (good and bad is a different story but food is food) > everything is food.....m --part1_fc.6aae3f3.283c5bb6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/22/01 4:08:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
AKASHMUSIC@aol.com writes:


(good and bad is a different story but food is food)


everything is food.....m --part1_fc.6aae3f3.283c5bb6_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 20:34:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA29445; Tue, 22 May 2001 20:31:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 20:31:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <9d.15c5e637.283c5e84@aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 20:29:56 EDT Subject: daugther and friend off too europe tomorrow To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_9d.15c5e637.283c5e84_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_9d.15c5e637.283c5e84_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i know the timing here is bad but my daugther katrina and her sidekick karen are off to italy-france-spain tomorrow.....if you would care to point these two in some interesting directions for the next few weeks, please send me a way they can get in touch with you (phone number perhaps).....help an old father know his kids are safe and happy in a land far away.....:).....michael --part1_9d.15c5e637.283c5e84_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i know the timing here is bad but my daugther katrina and her sidekick karen
are off to italy-france-spain tomorrow.....if you would care to point these
two in some interesting directions for the next few weeks, please send me a
way they can get in touch with you (phone number perhaps).....help an old
father know his kids are safe and happy in a land far away.....:).....michael --part1_9d.15c5e637.283c5e84_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 20:35:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA29483; Tue, 22 May 2001 20:32:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 20:32:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010523003203.25836.qmail@web213.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 17:32:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Kenneth Moses Subject: Can you Fix: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Can loopers repair a Effect Ron Jr.#350 or do you have a refer el by Delta Labs also do you have a Catalog for this piece of equipment. KJM __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 21:26:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA31519; Tue, 22 May 2001 21:22:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 21:22:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <200105230121.SAA01413@proxy4.ba.best.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 18:29:23 -0700 Subject: Re: HELP!!!! From: "Allan Hoeltje" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I am courious how a non-moving part that is snugly plugged into a socket becomes dirty. Should all electronic gizmos with computer memory be periodically opened up and cleaned? Seems dubious to me! -Allan (with 2 uncleaned EDP's still working fine) ---------- >From: Kim Flint >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: HELP!!!! >Date: Tue, May 22, 2001, 9:06 AM > > At 3:57 AM -0700 5/22/01, Steve Sandberg wrote: >> Can anyone help? I have an extremely important solo show at the >>Knitting Factory tonight in New York. I've just gotten up -- it's 7 AM -- >>and my EDP is not working. When I turn it on, all that happens is "Loop >>3" flashes over and over. > > that's what it does if there is something wrong with the memory. so my > first guess would be like Andy said, try cleaning the simms and reseating > them in the sockets. > kim > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > Kim Flint | Looper's Delight > kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 22:08:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA00991; Tue, 22 May 2001 22:03:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 22:03:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B0B1A26.AB72666A@zerocrossing.net> Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:02:15 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Tidwell , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Godbox II References: <20010520074536.83370.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com We don't think we'll have that feature, as it would cut into our sales, and possibily create a new species that will take over and use us for electric power (again) The Againinator It has you. John Tidwell wrote: > LOL!!! > > Hey "Gern"! If I buy two will they breed? > > John > > --- Mark Sottilaro wrote: > > On the other hand, the Againinator will have most of > > the features of the > > godbox II, but should be here sooner as we're not > > relying on hardware or > > software, but creating a system which will be > > totally biological. The > > only downside is that you'll have to let the > > Againinator take breaks to > > use a litter box. > > > > Gern Blanston > > Product development > > Eletros Inc. > > > > ===== > John Tidwell > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 22:29:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA01822; Tue, 22 May 2001 22:25:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 22:25:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [202.219.189.27] From: "=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCJW0lUCE8JUgbKEIgGyRCJUAlQyUvJW8hPCU5GyhC?=" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: looking for loop-friendly venues in california! Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:24:17 +0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2001 02:24:17.0531 (UTC) FILETIME=[7790A4B0:01C0E32F] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi there. robert here from the tokyo-based, new-media, ambient/avant-pop/post-experimental laptop duo tog. we are currently living in japan, and have been here long enough to be out of the loop (sorry!). we will be moving to california for grad school (san fran and la) in the fall, so i hoped that someone on this list could point me towards a list of venues friendly to the kind of music that we make. our sounds may be found here http://www.tognet.org please give a listen, and then mail me back with your suggestions! thanks for your time. robert tensaimouse@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 22:30:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA01785; Tue, 22 May 2001 22:24:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 22:24:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010522190818.02410490@mail.redmoon-music.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.redmoon-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:21:31 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: HELP!!!! In-Reply-To: <200105230121.SAA01413@proxy4.ba.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Allan Hoeltje (06:29 PM 05/22/01) wrote: >I am courious how a non-moving part that is snugly plugged into a socket >becomes dirty. It's not dirt or grime, it's oxidation. In this case the oxidation is a chemical reaction that's trigger by passing current through two dissimilar metals. The reaction is compounded by an environment that's changing temperatures which can produce condensation at the point of contact. A more general example of this is white stuff at the terminals on the battery in your car. It's the same principle. Another thing in this is that "snuggly" is often not as snug as you think it is. I really doesn't take a lot of vibration to create trouble. If you gig, and you carry your rig in the back of your car, the box will still vibrate. The sockets could be top-notch, but the mounting of the circuit board to the chassis could be such that if the chassis flexes, then the socket can flex and push the component out. I have a MXR digital delay that is HORRIBLE at traveling. I think that there are a lot of gear techs that make a good dollar by fixing problems just re-seating chips. >Should all electronic gizmos with computer memory be periodically opened >up and cleaned? Actually... yeah. :) Anything that's got socketed chips, memory, etc. is subject to this. Gold plated contacts fitting into gold plated sockets helps a lot though. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 23:13:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA03737; Tue, 22 May 2001 23:09:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 23:09:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "omjn" To: "Loopers-Delight" Subject: attn newcomers (and Kim) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:08:01 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi all While I am not one of so called "old farts" of this list I have been around long enough to get an understanding of what does and does not get answered in terms of questions by newbies. What I can tell you is that very vague and general questions about hardware that show you haven't done any research into LOOPING tools, and not general sampling, multitracking equipment, will NOT get an answer. My advice to anyone new on the list who has hardware related questions is to check out the Looper's Delight webpages which have quite a comprehensive list of reviews of LOOP specific hardware. If your hardware questions do not relate to what you see on this website, chances are, this really isn't the list for you. Or at least, you're better off lurking for a while to get a better feel for what's going on before asking youre next question. So what's the URL? That's my question for Kim. I always forget the damned URL, and while I know it's pretty easy to do a quick search for looper's delight, or indeed keep the bloody thing in my bookmarks, I still keep forgetting it. SOOO, Kim, why don't, as is done in many other lists I am a member of, you add a signature to all outgoing mails which includes the url for loopers-delight and a quick unsubscribe line. this would seem to solve two of the most common problems faced by newbies. just a suggestion. given I haven't had much mail answered on this list yet I will probably just go back to lurking. OH yeah, the URL http://www.loopers-delight.com/loop.html pretty obvious really, but if its there in front of peoples faces there is no excuse, and less of that newbie hostility, or at least ignorance of ignorance, that seems to go on around here. love+respect michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 23:34:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA04260; Tue, 22 May 2001 23:32:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 23:32:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "omjn" To: Subject: RE: from thaniel Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:30:57 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: <836AEDC9D836D211B4720001FA7EC2D202A7944D@ntemail1-tr.ius.indiana.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i believe Pole did this very same thing. omjn > -----Original Message----- > From: LEE, THANIEL I [mailto:TLEE@IUSMail.IUS.Indiana.EDU] > Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2001 5:39 AM > To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com' > Subject: from thaniel > > > lets play name that strange idm band that i forgot the name of. > they are from germany/sweden they composed a whole record using > nothing but > the sound of a malfunctioning sampler, and i forgot there name > -thaniel > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 22 23:37:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA04390; Tue, 22 May 2001 23:36:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 23:36:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "omjn" To: "Loopers-Delight" Subject: name that looper? Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:35:02 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi all again Just a quick question. Does anyone know of what looper is used by Papa-M in his live gigs? I'm guessing it was a rang but was hoping someone on here might know for sure... michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 00:24:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA06333; Wed, 23 May 2001 00:23:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 00:23:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 00:23:09 -0400 Subject: HELP!!! Resolution From: Steve Sandberg To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200105102210.SAA15976@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3073422189_12099716_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: <88Vx5D.A.piB.BszC7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3073422189_12099716_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Guys -- Thanks for much for your timely replies to my desperate call for EDP help. The resolution was actually quite funny. It was working well all day at my home, and I didn't want to take the chance of dismantling it and fussing with the SIMM chips or whatever is inside there (I'm not too technically oriented). So I thought I'd just trust that it would work when I got to the gig. Well, when I set it up it was doing the same thing it was doing first thing in the morning --flashing "Loop 3". So -- I gave it a well-aimed whack - and fixed it immediately! The show was awesome. --MS_Mac_OE_3073422189_12099716_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable HELP!!! Resolution Guys --
Thanks for much for your timely replies to my desperate call for EDP help.<= BR> The resolution was actually quite funny.
It was working well all day at my  home, and I didn't want to take the= chance of dismantling it and fussing with the SIMM chips or whatever is ins= ide there (I'm not too technically oriented).
So I thought I'd just trust that it would work when I got to the gig.
Well, when I set it up it was doing the same thing it was doing first thing= in the morning --flashing "Loop 3".
So -- I gave it a well-aimed whack - and fixed it immediately!
The show was awesome.
 --MS_Mac_OE_3073422189_12099716_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 01:19:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA08289; Wed, 23 May 2001 01:17:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 01:17:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <007b01c0e347$805967e0$05856fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: <9d.15c5e637.283c5e84@aol.com> Subject: Re: daugther and friend off too europe tomorrow Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 06:10:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0057_01C0E34F.19D3B400" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C0E34F.19D3B400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't actaully live there but would recommend your kin visits the = Dali museum in Figuerra, (not sure about the spelling), not too far from = Barcelona. I did a few weeks ago and really enjoed it. In fact, check = out Barcelona too! Gareth i know the timing here is bad but my daugther katrina and her sidekick = karen=20 are off to italy-france-spain tomorrow.....if you would care to point = these=20 two in some interesting directions for the next few weeks, please send = me a=20 way they can get in touch with you (phone number perhaps).....help an = old=20 father know his kids are safe and happy in a land far = away.....:).....michael=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C0E34F.19D3B400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
I don't actaully live there but would = recommend=20 your kin visits the Dali museum in Figuerra, (not sure about the = spelling),=20 not too far from Barcelona. I did a few weeks ago and really enjoed = it. In=20 fact, check out Barcelona too!
 
Gareth

i know the = timing here=20 is bad but my daugther katrina and her sidekick karen
are off to=20 italy-france-spain tomorrow.....if you would care to point these =
two in=20 some interesting directions for the next few weeks, please send me a =
way=20 they can get in touch with you (phone number perhaps).....help an old=20
father know his kids are safe and happy in a land far=20 away.....:).....michael ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C0E34F.19D3B400-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 04:15:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA14022; Wed, 23 May 2001 04:11:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 04:11:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 01:10:51 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: RE: I hope this doesn't strain Gibson's advertising budget....... Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 11:40 AM -0700 5/22/01, Richard Zvonar wrote: >At 1:20 PM -0400 5/22/01, Tom Ritchford wrote: >>Also, see these: >> >> >> > >Thanks for the Lynx links. I'm glad to know that the suit was >properly settled. > >Very interesting account of the OB-Mx, Zeta, and G-WIZ. I guess so, if you like fiction. I actually worked at g-wiz through almost it's entire duration, and worked directly with that Lynx fellow on projects chronicled on that site. That site is a lot of crap if you ask me. Absurd to the point that I think it is really funny, and certainly not reflecting any reality I experienced. That guy was pretty out there when I knew him, and apparently went even further out after that. But hey, if you want to believe him that's up to you. I can tell you more details in private if you want to know the actual story. I don't think it's really an appropriate topic for this forum. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 05:15:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA15630; Wed, 23 May 2001 05:13:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 05:13:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [62.104.212.76] From: "Robert Eberwein" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Academia [NO LOOPING] Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:12:21 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2001 09:12:21.0894 (UTC) FILETIME=[7961F260:01C0E368] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA16031; Wed, 23 May 2001 05:41:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 05:41:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008101c0e36c$8b406440$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: Self-imposed Silence! Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 10:41:28 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I thought it was awfully quiet and it turned out I'd used an asterisk in a subject killfile, without realizing that the bloody things use wildcards! Nuked again by the list! I wonder how many others as well, given that I handle nearly 70 messages a day... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 08:56:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA21243; Wed, 23 May 2001 08:54:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 08:54:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: I hope this doesn't strain Gibson's advertising budget....... Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 07:46:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yeah, thanks, Sorry for the name calling, not very professional; bad day yesterday. Trouble is, people will take these comments seriously and ultimately it's the innocent who suffer! Andy. > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Zvonar [mailto:zvonar@zvonar.com] > Sent: 22 May 2001 17:48 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: I hope this doesn't strain Gibson's advertising > budget....... > > > At 5:43 AM -0500 5/22/01, Andy Ewen wrote: > >I know to the outside, Gibson appear to buy and destroy > small companies, but > >the reality is, these guys are usually in serious trouble > before Gibson step > >in; we were. For some it's too late, Opcode being an > example. I now know the > >real reasons for the failure and closure of such businesses > and it cannot be > >blamed on any callous act by Gibson. > >Having spent quite some time now with Henry Juszkiewicz, I > have nothing but > >respect for him and his vision, he's not the mad > megalomaniac some would > >like to believe. > > Well, I guess I must just hang out with losers. Most of the reports > I've gotten over the last ten years or so are that he's a bipolar > type who is charming and enthusiastic at the outset but quickly turns > into a raging litigator when the acquired company doesn't reach a 30% > increase in profits in the first year. > > > At 1:27 AM -0700 5/22/01, Kim Flint wrote: > >And I certainly don't see the point of trying to destroy the > folks here who > >have put so much of themselves into creating new looping tools and > >instruments for this group. Whether you grasp it or not, > that's exactly > >what you seem to be proposing. Matthias might finally stand > a chance to > >make back some of the large amounts of time and money he > invested in all of > >this. (me too, although not nearly so much.) Why do you want > to take us > >down and deny us that, after all the work we've done for > you? It IS all > >connected. You can't harm one part without harming the other. > > I didn't expect my suggestion to be taken seriously, and I don't have > any I'll will toward those on the Echoplex team. I just wanted to > provoke some discussion of the faustian nature of doing business with > Gibson. Clearly you folks are benefiting from Uncle Henry's > benevolent mode. Others have been less fortunate. > -- > > ______________________________________________________________ > Richard Zvonar, PhD > (818) 788-2202 > http://www.zvonar.com > http://RZCybernetics.com > http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone > http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 09:13:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA22720; Wed, 23 May 2001 09:10:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:10:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: HELP!!! Resolution Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 08:02:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0E388.9FDE8D16" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E388.9FDE8D16 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" That was going to be my next suggestion. Glad the show went well but I'd have someone take the lid of your EDP, clean the SIMMs and re-seat the ICs as these problems have a habit of re-appearing; probably halfway through the next gig :-)) -----Original Message----- From: Steve Sandberg [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net] Sent: 23 May 2001 05:23 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: HELP!!! Resolution Guys -- Thanks for much for your timely replies to my desperate call for EDP help. The resolution was actually quite funny. It was working well all day at my home, and I didn't want to take the chance of dismantling it and fussing with the SIMM chips or whatever is inside there (I'm not too technically oriented). So I thought I'd just trust that it would work when I got to the gig. Well, when I set it up it was doing the same thing it was doing first thing in the morning --flashing "Loop 3". So -- I gave it a well-aimed whack - and fixed it immediately! The show was awesome. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E388.9FDE8D16 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" HELP!!! Resolution
That was going to be my next suggestion.
Glad the show went well but I'd have someone take the lid of your EDP, clean the SIMMs and re-seat the ICs as these problems have a habit of re-appearing; probably halfway through the next gig :-))
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Sandberg [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net]
Sent: 23 May 2001 05:23
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: HELP!!! Resolution

Guys --
Thanks for much for your timely replies to my desperate call for EDP help.
The resolution was actually quite funny.
It was working well all day at my  home, and I didn't want to take the chance of dismantling it and fussing with the SIMM chips or whatever is inside there (I'm not too technically oriented).
So I thought I'd just trust that it would work when I got to the gig.
Well, when I set it up it was doing the same thing it was doing first thing in the morning --flashing "Loop 3".
So -- I gave it a well-aimed whack - and fixed it immediately!
The show was awesome.
------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E388.9FDE8D16-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 09:29:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA23178; Wed, 23 May 2001 09:27:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:27:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: HELP!!!! Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 08:18:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0E38A.EE708A5E" Resent-Message-ID: <7j9bkB.A.7pF.Wq7C7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E38A.EE708A5E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Luca, how's it going? I remember it well! One of the EPROMS had worked it's way out of the socket. We learnt a valuable lesson here and have fitted expensive turned-pin IC sockets throughout the EDP ever since. These hold the chips much tighter and make the units more reliable. Haven't had the same problem since, Andy. -----Original Message----- From: luca [mailto:lucafeed@tin.it] Sent: 22 May 2001 21:28 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: R: HELP!!!! I have had the same problem (maybe Andy remembers that "italian" edp arrived from Nashville). I think i remember Andy at Trace Elliott fixed it by cleaning eprom's contacts... I think they were his first days into Edp's world. I can remember...you don't feel so stable when you Edp acts like that... luca ----- Original Message ----- From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 3:33 PM Subject: RE: HELP!!!! Steve, If it's been working in NY for some time, we can probably rule out the old 'crystal tolerance timing' problem. It's most likely to be faulty or dirty RAM SIMMs. Carefully remove each one in turn and clean the connector edges with either a fibreglass pencil, (used by draughtsman), or a standard rubber pencil eraser. I've also had the same problem with the EPROMS gradually working their way out of their sockets. If the RAM cleaning doesn't work, I'd remove each socket mounted chip in turn and re-seat them. Pressing Parameters while booting is the magic reset, but I think Claude has already mentioned this. Your continuous Loop 3 problem however, is very unlikely to be cured with a re-set. If all this fails, threaten it with severe physical damage; it probably still won't boot but you'll feel better. Good luck, let us know what happens, Andy. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Sandberg [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net] Sent: 22 May 2001 11:58 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: HELP!!!! Can anyone help? I have an extremely important solo show at the Knitting Factory tonight in New York. I've just gotten up -- it's 7 AM -- and my EDP is not working. When I turn it on, all that happens is "Loop 3" flashes over and over. Is there any way to reset it? Also, -- and this is asking a lot -- is there anyne in NYC with an EDP who would lend it or rent it to me for one night? Thanks . . . ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E38A.EE708A5E Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" HELP!!!!
 
Hi Luca, how's it going?
I remember it well! One of the EPROMS had worked it's way out of the socket. We learnt a valuable lesson here and have fitted expensive turned-pin IC sockets throughout the EDP ever since. These hold the chips much tighter and make the units more reliable.  Haven't had the same problem since,
Andy.
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: luca [mailto:lucafeed@tin.it]
Sent: 22 May 2001 21:28
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: R: HELP!!!!

I have had the same problem (maybe Andy remembers that "italian" edp arrived from Nashville).
I think i remember Andy at Trace Elliott fixed it by cleaning eprom's contacts...
I think they were his first days into Edp's world.
I can remember...you don't feel so stable when you Edp acts like that...
luca
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Ewen
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 3:33 PM
Subject: RE: HELP!!!!

Steve,
If it's been working in NY for some time, we can probably rule out the old 'crystal tolerance timing' problem. It's most likely to be faulty or dirty RAM SIMMs. Carefully remove each one in turn and clean the connector edges with either a fibreglass pencil, (used by draughtsman), or a standard rubber pencil eraser.
I've also had the same problem with the EPROMS gradually working their way out of their sockets. If the RAM cleaning doesn't work, I'd remove each socket mounted chip in turn and re-seat them.
Pressing Parameters while booting is the magic reset, but I think Claude has already mentioned this. Your continuous Loop 3 problem however, is very unlikely to be cured with a re-set.
If all this fails, threaten it with severe physical damage; it probably still won't boot but you'll feel better.
Good luck, let us know what happens,
Andy.
 
 
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: Steve Sandberg [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net]
Sent: 22 May 2001 11:58
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: HELP!!!!

Can anyone help?  I have an extremely important solo show at the Knitting Factory tonight in New York.  I've just gotten up -- it's 7 AM -- and my EDP is not working.  When I turn it on, all that happens is "Loop 3" flashes over and over.  
Is there any way to reset it?
Also, -- and this is asking a lot -- is there anyne in NYC with an EDP who would lend it or rent it to me for one night?  
Thanks . . .
------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E38A.EE708A5E-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 09:30:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA23335; Wed, 23 May 2001 09:29:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:29:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:30:05 -0400 Subject: Question for Allan Hoeltje From: Steve Sandberg To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200105230208.WAA01128@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3073455005_884501_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3073455005_884501_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Allan -- Do you take your EDP's to gigs? I have mine in a rack bag with some other gear -- am wondering if having it banged around in the back of taxis could possibly have unseated the SIMMS or EPROMS. I am courious how a non-moving part that is snugly plugged into a socket becomes dirty. Should all electronic gizmos with computer memory be periodically opened up and cleaned? Seems dubious to me! -Allan (with 2 uncleaned EDP's still working fine) --MS_Mac_OE_3073455005_884501_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Question for Allan Hoeltje
Allan --
Do you take your EDP's to gigs?  I have mine in a rack bag with some o= ther gear -- am wondering if having it banged around in the back of taxis co= uld possibly have unseated the SIMMS or EPROMS.


I am courious how a non-moving part that is snugly pl= ugged into a socket
becomes dirty.  Should all electronic gizmos with computer memory be periodically opened up and cleaned?  Seems dubious to me!

-Allan
(with 2 uncleaned EDP's still working fine)

 --MS_Mac_OE_3073455005_884501_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 09:56:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA23899; Wed, 23 May 2001 09:54:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:54:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Todd Quincy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: looking for loop-friendly venues in california! Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:51:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0E38F.79773D60" Resent-Message-ID: <1Yv3CB.A.P1F.8D8C7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E38F.79773D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" About a year ago, I volunteered to archive this subject and begin a database for the group...Let's do this now beginning with robert's thread. As you mention the venue, and city, try to give a phone number and contact. If you have additional info such as pay, house equipment, and others, please include. As you send this to the LD group, also please CC my personal email openjam@aol.com . I will compile this and prepare the HTML for Kim. Hopefully we will be able to chart out several regional circuits. Tq -----Original Message----- From: tensaimouse@hotmail.com [SMTP:tensaimouse@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 7:24 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: looking for loop-friendly venues in california! hi there. robert here from the tokyo-based, new-media, ambient/avant-pop/post-experimental laptop duo tog. we are currently living in japan, and have been here long enough to be out of the loop (sorry!). we will be moving to california for grad school (san fran and la) in the fall, so i hoped that someone on this list could point me towards a list of venues friendly to the kind of music that we make. our sounds may be found here http://www.tognet.org please give a listen, and then mail me back with your suggestions! thanks for your time. robert tensaimouse@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E38F.79773D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: looking for loop-friendly venues in california!

About a year ago, I volunteered to = archive this subject and begin a database for the group...Let's do this = now beginning with robert's thread.

As you mention the venue, and city, = try to give a phone number and contact. If you have additional info = such as pay, house equipment, and others, please include.

As you send this to the LD group, also = please CC my personal email openjam@aol.com. I will compile this and prepare the HTML for Kim. =

Hopefully we will be able to chart out = several regional circuits.

Tq



 

    -----Original = Message-----
    From:   = tensaimouse@hotmail.com [SMTP:tensaimouse@hotmail.com]
    Sent:   Tuesday, May 22, 2001 7:24 PM
    To:     Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    Subject:       = looking for loop-friendly venues in = california!

    hi there. robert here from the = tokyo-based, new-media,
    ambient/avant-pop/post-experimental laptop duo tog. we are = currently living
    in japan, and have been here long = enough to be out of the loop (sorry!). we
    will be moving to california for = grad school (san fran and la) in the fall,
    so i hoped that someone on this = list could point me towards a list of
    venues friendly to the kind of = music that we make. our sounds may be found
    here http://www.tognet.org please give a listen, and = then mail me back with
    your suggestions! thanks for your = time.
    robert
    tensaimouse@hotmail.com
    ________________________________________________________________= _________
    Get Your Private, Free E-mail = from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E38F.79773D60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 10:08:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25342; Wed, 23 May 2001 10:06:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 10:06:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <007b01c0e347$805967e0$05856fd4@dolly> References: <9d.15c5e637.283c5e84@aol.com> <007b01c0e347$805967e0$05856fd4@dolly> Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:05:55 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: traig Subject: Re: daugther and friend off too europe tomorrow Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1221495740==_ma============" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1221495740==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > >I don't actaully live there but would recommend your kin visits the >Dali museum in Figuerra, (not sure about the spelling), not too far >from Barcelona. I did a few weeks ago and really enjoed it. In fact, >check out Barcelona too! > >Gareth > >i know the timing here is bad but my daugther katrina and her sidekick karen >are off to italy-france-spain tomorrow.....if you would care to point these >two in some interesting directions for the next few weeks, please send me a >way they can get in touch with you (phone number perhaps).....help an old >father know his kids are safe and happy in a land far away.....:).....michael make sure they check out the buildings by A. Gaudi - the most incredible architecture in europe. you really can't miss it. Valencia is also a good stop in Spain. i'm sure they will have fun. t -- Traig Foltz Audio Production Specialist University of Notre Dame Office of Information Technology Office: (219)631 - 3752 Fax: (219) 631 - 8777 --============_-1221495740==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: daugther and friend off too europe tomorrow
 
I don't actaully live there but would recommend your kin visits the Dali museum in Figuerra, (not sure about the spelling), not too far from Barcelona. I did a few weeks ago and really enjoed it. In fact, check out Barcelona too!
 
Gareth

i know the timing here is bad but my daugther katrina and her sidekick karen
are off to italy-france-spain tomorrow.....if you would care to point these
two in some interesting directions for the next few weeks, please send me a
way they can get in touch with you (phone number perhaps).....help an old
father know his kids are safe and happy in a land far away.....:).....michael

make sure they check out the buildings by A. Gaudi - the most incredible architecture in europe. you really can't miss it.  Valencia is also a good stop in Spain.

i'm sure they will have fun.

t
--
Traig Foltz
Audio Production Specialist
University of Notre Dame
Office of Information Technology
Office: (219)631 - 3752
Fax:  (219) 631 - 8777
--============_-1221495740==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 10:22:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25590; Wed, 23 May 2001 10:20:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 10:20:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: cave@pop1.osk.3web.ne.jp X-Mailer: Macintosh Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1-J Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 23:19:42 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sunao Inami Subject: Re: looking for loop-friendly venues in california! Cc: tensaimouse@hotmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Robert, I found your message in LD mailing. I look forward to live gig in Tokuzo,Nagoya with you . Regards Sunao Inami http://www.cavestudio.com >hi there. robert here from the tokyo-based, new-media, >ambient/avant-pop/post-experimental laptop duo tog. we are currently >living in japan, and have been here long enough to be out of the loop >(sorry!). we will be moving to california for grad school (san fran and >la) in the fall, so i hoped that someone on this list could point me >towards a list of venues friendly to the kind of music that we make. our >sounds may be found here http://www.tognet.org please give a listen, and >then mail me back with your suggestions! thanks for your time. >robert >tensaimouse@hotmail.com >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 11:02:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA27268; Wed, 23 May 2001 10:59:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 10:59:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010523145850.27689.qmail@web5103.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 07:58:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Alx Subject: OT: MP3 questions... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010514132139.023b2d20@mail.redmoon-music.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello, I would like to know how to include artist´s info on .mp3 clips, here´s my example: when I have a .wav file using Sound Forge I can include in the .wav file the artist´s info like song name, composer and copyright date so that info shows on the media player when the song is playing but when I encode that same .wav file (info included) into a .mp3 file the artist´s info is lost, the media player doesn´t shows any info anymore, why is that?, I have used "lame" and "blade" encoders but it´s the same situation with both of them, I´ve seen many .mp3 clips that shows artist´s info on the media player screen and I need to include that info on some clips of my own, is there a special encoder or editor to do that?. Thanks. Alx. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 11:22:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27604; Wed, 23 May 2001 11:17:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:17:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Brad Chase" To: Subject: RE: attn newcomers (and Kim) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 08:23:30 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-SLUIDL: 33E08242-4A1B11D5-BA900001-02769B72 Resent-Message-ID: <4XcHDC.A.LvG.GR9C7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com It sucks being new at anything!! DO YOU REMEMBER?!!!! I am completely new to this whole digital audio world. I stepped away from live sound re-enforcement (i.e. soundboard man) in the early eighties. I'm 45, no fool (most of the time), but walking into digital sound creation makes my head spin. This is, however, something I really want to learn. And no one will discourage me. Is there a site better suited to 'the New Guy"? Thanks for the support, and encouragement. We new knuckleheads are just trying to keep our heads above the waters that many of you have been traversing for years. As Bill Murray put it in 'Meatballs' 'IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!!!!!!" BRAD -----Original Message----- From: omjn [mailto:eightohm@iinet.net.au] Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 8:08 PM To: Loopers-Delight Subject: attn newcomers (and Kim) hi all While I am not one of so called "old farts" of this list I have been around long enough to get an understanding of what does and does not get answered in terms of questions by newbies. What I can tell you is that very vague and general questions about hardware that show you haven't done any research into LOOPING tools, and not general sampling, multitracking equipment, will NOT get an answer. My advice to anyone new on the list who has hardware related questions is to check out the Looper's Delight webpages which have quite a comprehensive list of reviews of LOOP specific hardware. If your hardware questions do not relate to what you see on this website, chances are, this really isn't the list for you. Or at least, you're better off lurking for a while to get a better feel for what's going on before asking youre next question. So what's the URL? That's my question for Kim. I always forget the damned URL, and while I know it's pretty easy to do a quick search for looper's delight, or indeed keep the bloody thing in my bookmarks, I still keep forgetting it. SOOO, Kim, why don't, as is done in many other lists I am a member of, you add a signature to all outgoing mails which includes the url for loopers-delight and a quick unsubscribe line. this would seem to solve two of the most common problems faced by newbies. just a suggestion. given I haven't had much mail answered on this list yet I will probably just go back to lurking. OH yeah, the URL http://www.loopers-delight.com/loop.html pretty obvious really, but if its there in front of peoples faces there is no excuse, and less of that newbie hostility, or at least ignorance of ignorance, that seems to go on around here. love+respect michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 11:23:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27652; Wed, 23 May 2001 11:18:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:18:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: cbm@mail.well.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 08:04:11 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Muir Subject: RE: I hope this doesn't strain Gibson's advertising budget....... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 1:10 AM -0700 5/23/01, Kim Flint wrote: >At 11:40 AM -0700 5/22/01, Richard Zvonar wrote: > >Very interesting account of the OB-Mx, Zeta, and G-WIZ. > > >I guess so, if you like fiction. Yep, definitely in the cheezy fantasy fiction camp. >I actually worked at g-wiz through almost it's entire duration, and worked >directly with that Lynx fellow on projects chronicled on that site. That >site is a lot of crap if you ask me. Absurd to the point that I think it is >really funny, and certainly not reflecting any reality I experienced. That >guy was pretty out there when I knew him, and apparently went even further >out after that. But hey, if you want to believe him that's up to you. I also worked at "the wiz" during a lot of the time mentioned in the "Lynx Chronicles". While Kim and I may be on opposite sides of the Gibson "Practical Business" vs. "Evil Empire" debate, we are in 100% agreement about Lynx. Lynx seemed to be visiting G-WIZ from another planet and sending his observations home to his alien overlords. There is so much wrong with his account I don't know where to start. >I can tell you more details in private if you want to know the actual >story. I don't think it's really an appropriate topic for this forum. Actually keeping this private might be a good idea in light of Lynx's litigious leanings. -C -- _________________________________________________________ The optimist sees a glass half full... | Chris Muir The pessimist sees a glass half empty... | cbm@well.com The realist sees a glass twice as big as it needs to be. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 11:27:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27774; Wed, 23 May 2001 11:22:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:22:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:23:10 -0400 Subject: Re: HELP resolution From: Steve Sandberg To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200105231329.JAA23501@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3073461791_1292654_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3073461791_1292654_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit That was going to be my next suggestion. Glad the show went well but I'd have someone take the lid of your EDP, clean the SIMMs and re-seat the ICs as these problems have a habit of re-appearing; probably halfway through the next gig :-)) Thanks, Andy -- is that something I could do myself? I'm not adverse to doing it if I can do it without causing further problems -- I just didn't want to do it the day of a gig. --MS_Mac_OE_3073461791_1292654_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: HELP resolution
That was going to be my next suggestio= n.
Glad the show went well but I'd have someone take the lid of your EDP, clea= n the SIMMs and re-seat the ICs as these problems have a habit of re-appeari= ng; probably halfway through the next gig :-))

Thanks, Andy -- is that something I could do myself?  I'm not adverse = to doing it if I can do it without causing further problems -- I just didn't= want to do it the day of a gig. --MS_Mac_OE_3073461791_1292654_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 11:48:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28384; Wed, 23 May 2001 11:43:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:43:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Authentication-Warning: partagas.dragonet.es: 193-153-189-245.uc.nombres.ttd.es [193.153.189.245] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010523174931.0096dae0@mail.dragonet.es> X-Sender: d3055@mail.dragonet.es X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 17:49:31 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Junkie G Subject: Re: daugther and friend off too europe tomorrow In-Reply-To: <007b01c0e347$805967e0$05856fd4@dolly> References: <9d.15c5e637.283c5e84@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 06:10 a.m. 23/05/01 +0100, you wrote: hi there ! i'm near there .... 'Figueres', catalonian, it's alright ... > I don't actaully live there but would recommend your kin visits >the Dali museum in Figuerra, (not sure about the spelling), not too far >from Barcelona. I did a few weeks ago and really enjoed it. In fact, >check out Barcelona too! Gareth >i know the timing here is bad but my daugther katrina and her sidekick >karen >are off to italy-france-spain tomorrow.....if you would care to point these >two in some interesting directions for the next few weeks, please send me a >way they can get in touch with you (phone number perhaps).....help an >old >father know his kids are safe and happy in a land far >away.....:).....michael > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 12:30:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA30181; Wed, 23 May 2001 12:27:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:27:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:22:54 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: Academia [NO LOOPING] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > >Are you SURE? [for instance: did you maybe buy the same book in >different forms for 4 -6 years. A book that was, basically, >*Enlightenment* propaganda?]. > >But skipping all that,how about on a practical level? Once i was in >a graduate seminar where the required booklist totaled 345$. I >announced to the small class that I had all 7 of these books and >would gladly make copies [of the selected readings] for each >student. The Prof blew a cold chill, and made it very clear that >this would NOT be appropriate. It was years later before I started >to understand-at least in the sciences- what the publishing/academia >relationship is-similar to Doctors and drug reps. > >My first master's degree taught me nothing I'd not learned as an >undergrad and cost around 20,000$. It was simply a way to use the >school's name to get in a Doctoral program -otherwise >unapproachable. One could say that i knew what I was getting into, >but they, nevertheless, picked my pocket at every turn. Well, I think more and more that I was very lucky to go to a Canadian university, where the tuition and student fees were less than $2K a year, scholarships plentiful, and class sizes small. (And great teachers too...) The stuff I hear about never being able to find professors, eg... it's crazy to me, I could go to two floors of the math dept. and find almost all the professors at any time between 10 and 5. And in at least one case the professor chose a book because it was as good as the others and a lot cheaper... (fave story... I was having a rather obscure argument with a professor about a point of group theory. The class (6 people!) was initially nodding along but after a bit I imagine they were just nodding... finally the teacher says, "Wait a second, why am I arguing with you? *I*'m the professor!" it was very funny...) Enough! the peril of being underemployed is excess email... /t ...electronic a cappella madness ......... ...extreme internet radio ... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 14:00:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00707; Wed, 23 May 2001 13:56:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 13:56:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <200105231753.KAA04617@proxy4.ba.best.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:01:49 -0700 Subject: Re: Question for Allan Hoeltje From: "Allan Hoeltje" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3073460510_170757_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > THIS MESSAGE IS IN MIME FORMAT. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3073460510_170757_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit OK, I admit it. I am a closet looper and do not perform gigs. My EDP's are pampered in a rack in my little studio at home and have never had so much as even a tiny jiggle let alone an axle breaking taxi ride through New York City. I am also a software geek and know just enough about hardware to be dangerous, even without a soldering iron in my hand. And so, I did not know that SIMMS and EPROMS were able to soil themselves. The battery explanation (dissimilar metals, electric current, etc.) does make sense to me so consider me a true believer now. :-) Allan ---------- From: Steve Sandberg To: Subject: Question for Allan Hoeltje Date: Wed, May 23, 2001, 6:30 AM Allan -- Do you take your EDP's to gigs? I have mine in a rack bag with some other gear -- am wondering if having it banged around in the back of taxis could possibly have unseated the SIMMS or EPROMS. I am courious how a non-moving part that is snugly plugged into a socket becomes dirty. Should all electronic gizmos with computer memory be periodically opened up and cleaned? Seems dubious to me! -Allan (with 2 uncleaned EDP's still working fine) --MS_Mac_OE_3073460510_170757_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: Question for Allan Hoeltje OK, I admit it.  I am a closet looper and do not perform gigs.  M= y EDP's are pampered in a rack in my little studio at home and have never ha= d so much as even a tiny jiggle let alone an axle breaking taxi ride through= New York City.

I am also a software geek and know just enough about hardware to be dangero= us, even without a soldering iron in my hand.

And so, I did not know that SIMMS and EPROMS were able to soil themselves. =  The battery explanation (dissimilar metals, electric current, etc.) do= es make sense to me so consider me a true believer now.

:-)
Allan


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From: Steve Sandberg <stevesandberg@earthlink.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Subject: Question for Allan Hoeltje
Date: Wed, May 23, 2001, 6:30 AM


Allan --
Do you take your EDP's to gigs?  I have mine in a rack bag with some o= ther gear -- am wondering if having it banged around in the back of taxis co= uld possibly have unseated the SIMMS or EPROMS.


I am courious how a non-moving part that is snugly pl= ugged into a socket
becomes dirty.  Should all electronic gizmos with computer memory be periodically opened up and cleaned?  Seems dubious to me!

-Allan
(with 2 uncleaned EDP's still working fine)


--MS_Mac_OE_3073460510_170757_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 14:03:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00788; Wed, 23 May 2001 13:59:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 13:59:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [202.219.189.138] From: "=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCJW0lUCE8JUgbKEIgGyRCJUAlQyUvJW8hPCU5GyhC?=" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: attn newcomers (and Kim) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 02:57:58 +0900 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2001 17:57:58.0789 (UTC) FILETIME=[E6D63B50:01C0E3B1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com to: brad chase from: robert duckworth sub: attn newcomers (and Kim) so, if you are new to this whole thing i would really suggest that you pick up a copy of the curtis roads book "the computer music tutuorial", which you can get anywhere (amazon or b&n) for under $50 i think. it should answer a lot of questions. let me know if this helps. best, robert http://www.tognet.org >Is there a site better suited to 'the New Guy"? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 14:10:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02340; Wed, 23 May 2001 14:08:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 14:08:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Brad Chase" To: Subject: RE: attn newcomers (and Kim) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:14:35 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-SLUIDL: 33E082A6-4A1B11D5-BA900001-02769B72 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com robert duckworth thank you very much! will follow your suggestion, and listen to your work on your tog site brad -----Original Message----- From: $B%m%P!<%H(B $B%@%C%/%o!<%9(B [mailto:tensaimouse@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 10:58 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: attn newcomers (and Kim) to: brad chase from: robert duckworth sub: attn newcomers (and Kim) so, if you are new to this whole thing i would really suggest that you pick up a copy of the curtis roads book "the computer music tutuorial", which you can get anywhere (amazon or b&n) for under $50 i think. it should answer a lot of questions. let me know if this helps. best, robert http://www.tognet.org >Is there a site better suited to 'the New Guy"? _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 14:17:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02551; Wed, 23 May 2001 14:14:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 14:14:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 14:13:47 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: RE: attn newcomers (and Kim) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >It sucks being new at anything!! DO YOU REMEMBER?!!!! I am completely new to >this whole digital audio world. I stepped away from live sound >re-enforcement (i.e. soundboard man) in the early eighties. I'm 45, no fool >(most of the time), but walking into digital sound creation makes my head >spin. If there's one thing with modern gear, it's that you have to REALLY read and learn to LOVE the manual and go over and over it before you can understand the piece. I don't mean something like the Line6 DL4, mind you, I've never really read the manual too carefully and I have a great time with the unit just by experimenting. But something like an EDP, or even more, an Eventide/Orville/Kyma... you gotta read the manual until it's dog-eared! (and the same goes for sound machines like a Kurzweil...) /t ...electronic a cappella madness ......... ...extreme internet radio ... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 14:31:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02945; Wed, 23 May 2001 14:28:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 14:28:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <009401c0e3b6$10f4b700$7787abd4@LucaFormentini> From: "luca" To: References: Subject: R: HELP!!!! for Andy Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:51:16 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006A_01C0E3C1.BA674FE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C0E3C1.BA674FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HELP!!!!hi Andy, happy to find you here. everything is allright.=20 the edp is working perfectly since your assistance. i am happy my case has been useful for others..... all the best. luca ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Andy Ewen=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 3:18 PM Subject: RE: HELP!!!! =20 Hi Luca, how's it going? I remember it well! One of the EPROMS had worked it's way out of the = socket. We learnt a valuable lesson here and have fitted expensive = turned-pin IC sockets throughout the EDP ever since. These hold the = chips much tighter and make the units more reliable. Haven't had the = same problem since, Andy. =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: luca [mailto:lucafeed@tin.it] Sent: 22 May 2001 21:28 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: R: HELP!!!! I have had the same problem (maybe Andy remembers that "italian" edp = arrived from Nashville). I think i remember Andy at Trace Elliott fixed it by cleaning = eprom's contacts... I think they were his first days into Edp's world. I can remember...you don't feel so stable when you Edp acts like = that... luca ------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C0E3C1.BA674FE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HELP!!!!
hi Andy, happy to find you = here.
everything is allright.
the edp is working perfectly since your = assistance.
i am happy my case has been useful for=20 others.....
all the best.
luca
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Andy Ewen
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 = 3:18=20 PM
Subject: RE: HELP!!!!

 
Hi = Luca, how's=20 it going?
I = remember it=20 well! One of the EPROMS had worked it's way out of the socket. We = learnt=20 a valuable lesson here and have fitted expensive turned-pin IC sockets = throughout the EDP ever since. These hold the chips much tighter and = make the=20 units more reliable.  = Haven't=20 had the same problem since,
Andy.
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
From: luca=20 [mailto:lucafeed@tin.it]
Sent: 22 May 2001 = 21:28
To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: R:=20 HELP!!!!

I have had the same problem (maybe = Andy=20 remembers that "italian" edp arrived from Nashville).
I think i remember Andy at Trace = Elliott fixed=20 it by cleaning eprom's contacts...
I think they were his first days = into Edp's=20 world.
I can remember...you don't feel so = stable when=20 you Edp acts like that...
luca
 
------=_NextPart_000_006A_01C0E3C1.BA674FE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 14:35:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02948; Wed, 23 May 2001 14:28:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 14:28:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Brad Chase" To: Subject: RE: attn newcomers (and Kim) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:35:13 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-SLUIDL: 33E082B9-4A1B11D5-BA900001-02769B72 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com MUCH APPRECIATED THAT IS WHAT I AM DOING WITH THE SOFT SYNTH KITS THAT I HAVE DOWNLOADED. BABY STEPS WORK FOR ME. ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A THUMB SUCKER? BRAD -----Original Message----- From: Tom Ritchford [mailto:tom@swirly.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:14 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: attn newcomers (and Kim) >It sucks being new at anything!! DO YOU REMEMBER?!!!! I am completely new to >this whole digital audio world. I stepped away from live sound >re-enforcement (i.e. soundboard man) in the early eighties. I'm 45, no fool >(most of the time), but walking into digital sound creation makes my head >spin. If there's one thing with modern gear, it's that you have to REALLY read and learn to LOVE the manual and go over and over it before you can understand the piece. I don't mean something like the Line6 DL4, mind you, I've never really read the manual too carefully and I have a great time with the unit just by experimenting. But something like an EDP, or even more, an Eventide/Orville/Kyma... you gotta read the manual until it's dog-eared! (and the same goes for sound machines like a Kurzweil...) /t ...electronic a cappella madness ......... ...extreme internet radio ... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 14:45:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA03347; Wed, 23 May 2001 14:43:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 14:43:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B0C049D.AA6E5F86@zerocrossing.net> Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:42:33 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: hey all from randy clark and crowsong!!!!! (JAWS) References: <41.bc152f2.283bbc06@aol.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------0A261B55AE6649AD9DF14806" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --------------0A261B55AE6649AD9DF14806 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And I bet if you're really nice, Randy might sell you a copy of Gunpoint Poetry, by his old band Jaws. Lot's of loop content from one of the best bands I have ever seen. EVER. If he will, send him cash. You won't be disappointed. and if you're on this list Randy, when I lived in Ithaca I remember you telling me of new recordings that were being worked on, live stuff and other new stuff from Jaws. You moved to SF and that was the last I heard. I sure would like to buy anything that was done by Jaws after Gunpoint Poetry. Mark Sottilaro Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 5/21/01 10:19:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > rclark@sirius.com writes: > > > >> please give me a yell as to where to send stuff. > > i would love to hear your cd.....thanks > michael klobuchar > 352 grace st > pittsburgh pa 15211 --------------0A261B55AE6649AD9DF14806 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And I bet if you're really nice, Randy might sell you a copy of Gunpoint Poetry, by his old band Jaws.  Lot's of loop content from one of the best bands I have ever seen.  EVER.  If he will, send him cash.  You won't be disappointed.

and if you're on this list Randy, when I lived in Ithaca I remember you telling me of new recordings that were being worked on, live stuff and other new stuff from Jaws.  You moved to SF and that was the last I heard.  I sure would like to buy anything that was done by Jaws after Gunpoint Poetry.

Mark Sottilaro

Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote:

In a message dated 5/21/01 10:19:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
rclark@sirius.com writes:
 
 
please give me a yell as to where to send stuff.

i would love to hear your cd.....thanks
michael klobuchar
352 grace st
pittsburgh pa 15211

--------------0A261B55AE6649AD9DF14806-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 15:18:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA05139; Wed, 23 May 2001 15:13:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:13:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 14:13:05 -0500 Subject: Re: attn newcomers (and Kim) From: Mike Feeney To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com heheh, I've even gone through my boomerang manual a few times... Some of the programming tips I just can't seem to remember clearly... =) mike > If there's one thing with modern gear, it's that you have to > REALLY read and learn to LOVE the manual and go over and over > it before you can understand the piece. > > > I don't mean something like the Line6 DL4, mind you, I've never > really read the manual too carefully and I have a great time > with the unit just by experimenting. > > > But something like an EDP, or even more, an Eventide/Orville/Kyma... > you gotta read the manual until it's dog-eared! > > (and the same goes for sound machines like a Kurzweil...) > > /t > > > ...electronic a cappella madness ......... > ...extreme internet radio ... _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 15:42:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA05755; Wed, 23 May 2001 15:38:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:38:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:17:37 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: attn newcomers (and Kim) In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1221476511==_ma============" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1221476511==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 2:57 AM +0900 5/24/01, Robert Duckworth wrote: > so, if you are new to this whole thing i would really suggest that you pick up a copy of the curtis roads book "the computer music tutuorial", which you can get anywhere (amazon or b&n) for under $50 i think. A bit more than that, I'm afraid: $62.95 on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0262680823/o/qid=990644600/sr=2-1/103-9935439-1170206 Depending on your level of interest, there are several other books worth checking out (perhaps at the library first). These are all availabe on Amazon.com: The Csound Book: Perspectives in Software Synthesis, Sound Design, Signal Processing,and Programming by Richard Charles Boulanger (Editor) Computer Music: Synthesis, Composition, and Performance by Charles Dodge, Thomas A. Jerse Computer Sound Synthesis for the Electronic Musician (Music Technology Series) by Eduardo Reck Miranda Composing Interactive Music: Techniques and Ideas Using Max by Todd Winkler Sound Synthesis and Sampling (Music Technology Series) by Martin Russ, Francis Rumsey (Editor) A Programmer's Guide to Sound by Tim Kientzle A DSP Primer by Ken Steiglitz, Kenneth Steiglitz Digital Sound Processing for Music and Multimedia (Music Technology Series) by Ross Kirk, Andy Hunt Midi for the Professional by Paul Lehrman, Tim Tully (Contributor) Maximum MIDI by Paul Messick The Midi Companion by Jeffrey Rona, et al Arranging Techniques for Synthesis (Am 67216) by Eric Turkel, Elizabeth Smith-Eisenhower Synthesizer Basics by Brent Hurtig (Editor) Linux Music & Sound by Dave Phillips Basic MIDI by Paul White (Editor) Experiencing Music Technology by David Brian Williams, Peter Richard Webster Wizoo Guide Cubase VST PlugIns by Ralf Kleinermanns Sound Synthesis and Sampling (Music Technology Series) by Martin Russ, Francis Rumsey (Editor) Basic Digital Recording by Paul White (Editor) Basic MIDI by Paul White (Editor) -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz --============_-1221476511==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: attn newcomers (and Kim)
At 2:57 AM +0900 5/24/01, Robert Duckworth <tensaimouse@hotmail.com> wrote:

so, if you are new to this whole thing i would really suggest that you pick up a copy of the curtis roads book "the computer music tutuorial", which you can get anywhere (amazon or b&n) for under $50 i think.

A bit more than that, I'm afraid: $62.95 on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0262680823/o/qid=990644600/sr=2-1/103-9935439-1170206

Depending on your level of interest, there are several other books worth checking out (perhaps at the library first).  These are all availabe on Amazon.com:

The Csound Book: Perspectives in Software Synthesis, Sound Design, Signal Processing,and Programming by Richard Charles Boulanger (Editor)

Computer Music: Synthesis, Composition, and Performance by Charles Dodge, Thomas A. Jerse

Computer Sound Synthesis for the Electronic Musician (Music Technology Series) by Eduardo Reck Miranda

Composing Interactive Music: Techniques and Ideas Using Max by Todd Winkler

Sound Synthesis and Sampling (Music Technology Series) by Martin Russ, Francis Rumsey (Editor)

A Programmer's Guide to Sound by Tim Kientzle

A DSP Primer by Ken Steiglitz, Kenneth Steiglitz

Digital Sound Processing for Music and Multimedia (Music Technology Series) by Ross Kirk, Andy Hunt

Midi for the Professional by Paul Lehrman, Tim Tully (Contributor)

Maximum MIDI by Paul Messick
       
The Midi Companion by Jeffrey Rona, et al

Arranging Techniques for Synthesis (Am 67216) by Eric Turkel, Elizabeth Smith-Eisenhower

Synthesizer Basics by Brent Hurtig (Editor)
       
Linux Music & Sound by Dave Phillips

Basic MIDI by Paul White (Editor)

Experiencing Music Technology by David Brian Williams, Peter Richard Webster
       
Wizoo Guide Cubase VST PlugIns by Ralf Kleinermanns


Sound Synthesis and Sampling (Music Technology Series)
by Martin Russ, Francis Rumsey (Editor)

Basic Digital Recording
by Paul White (Editor)
       
Basic MIDI
by Paul White (Editor)


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--============_-1221476511==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 16:31:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07742; Wed, 23 May 2001 16:26:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 16:26:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <007601c0e3c6$5dd7afe0$6b44230a@mlameyer02> From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: References: Subject: OT: the Soft Synth discovery trip (was attn newcomers (and Kim)) Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 16:24:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well, without knowing exactly what kind of experience you've had thus far, I'd say pick the first little thing that catches your attention or raises a question in your mind, and investigate it. Exploring one little thing will almost certainly lead you to other relevant wonderings and pretty soon you'll be making happy bleep bleep noises. One of the most valuable learning lessons I had was from a guitar teacher who impressed me with the incredible usefulness of taking one small thing at a time and patiently giving mindful attention to it until you've mastered that one small thing. Then go on to another little bite. At least that's the principle. In practice of course I am frequently embarking on unexpected tangents and discoveries, but I think of that as extra credit work. :-) Actually, that's a lie. It's just fun. But I digress. Philosophy aside, you probably have a comfortable understanding of audio signal flow, etc., but that understanding doesn't necessarily apply directly to running software on a computer. What aspects of using these soft synths are you having head beating sessions over? Are you having trouble implementing the soft synth on a computer, from a systems operation standpoint? (having trouble running the software properly, can't hear anything your producing, system conflicts of some kind, etc.) Or are you seeking some understanding of actually using the software to produce audio? Application tricks and tips? For either of those, check your product documentation and support first. And maybe *duck* RTFM. But I never read documentation until after I've futzed around anyway (bad systems guy, BAD). See if there are any lists online or newsgroups that deal specifically with your system or software, they'd be a more appropriate resource than a looping list probably ;-). If you want to read some fair online tutorials and stuff like that on synths and computer audio in general, here's a variety of more or less useful sites. Someone else will need to post good resources for Mac users, as I'm primarily a PC hack: A good online synth resource, checkout softsynth links: http://www.synthzone.com/ A couple specific Harmony Central resources: http://www.harmony-central.com/Computer/ http://www.harmony-central.com/MIDI/ Some useful stuff in here somewhere: http://homerecording.com/ http://homerecording.com/homerecfaq.html An audio forums site: http://www.audioforums.com/ SonicSpot Guide to Digital Audio and Music (checkout the sound synthesis section if you're really new to synthesis concepts): http://www.sonicspot.com/guide/index.html A general pc audio resource: http://www.pcrecording.com/ Other MIDI sites: http://www.leftandwrite.com/brian/music/beginners_guide_to_midi. htm http://www.midiguy.com/midiguy.html This is all I could come up with on the fly. There's more and probably better out there, try some more search engines. If you want to ask more specific questions, feel free to email me off list or post OT: if you get a lot of encouraging responses from the list. Although computer and synth questions are quite interesting to some here, troubleshooting general audio computer software and soft synths is not necessarily on topic for a looping list. Unless you contrive it that way. ;-) Best, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Chase" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 2:35 PM Subject: RE: attn newcomers (and Kim) > MUCH APPRECIATED > THAT IS WHAT I AM DOING WITH THE SOFT SYNTH KITS THAT I HAVE DOWNLOADED. > BABY STEPS WORK FOR ME. ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR A THUMB SUCKER? > BRAD > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Ritchford [mailto:tom@swirly.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:14 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: RE: attn newcomers (and Kim) > > > >It sucks being new at anything!! DO YOU REMEMBER?!!!! I am completely new > to > >this whole digital audio world. I stepped away from live sound > >re-enforcement (i.e. soundboard man) in the early eighties. I'm 45, no > fool > >(most of the time), but walking into digital sound creation makes my head > >spin. > > If there's one thing with modern gear, it's that you have to > REALLY read and learn to LOVE the manual and go over and over > it before you can understand the piece. > > > I don't mean something like the Line6 DL4, mind you, I've never > really read the manual too carefully and I have a great time > with the unit just by experimenting. > > > But something like an EDP, or even more, an Eventide/Orville/Kyma... > you gotta read the manual until it's dog-eared! > > (and the same goes for sound machines like a Kurzweil...) > > /t > > > ...electronic a cappella madness ......... > ...extreme internet radio ... > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 16:44:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA08305; Wed, 23 May 2001 16:41:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 16:41:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00a801c0e3c9$7406aca0$f78ae3a5@looppool> From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: References: <200105231942.PAA05926@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: hey all from randy clark and crowsong!!!!! Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 13:46:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey, I just want to attest to what a fine musician, Randy Clark is. I had the great fortune of hearing him and sitting in with him on a couple of tunes when he played Mobo Sushi, here in Santa Cruz and really enjoyed his musicality and originality on guitar. He has that rare quality of sounding very organic whilst looping (which I think is the hardest thing to pull off in our little niche artform-----Steve Lawson also has this elusive quality in his performances) Buy the Crowsong CD!!!! You'll be glad you did. yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 18:37:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA12418; Wed, 23 May 2001 18:34:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:34:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <22.1684af87.283d94b1@aol.com> Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:33:21 EDT Subject: daugther and friend in europe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_22.1684af87.283d94b1_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_22.1684af87.283d94b1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit a great big thanks to all who responded.....its nice to know that katy and karen have some "loopy" folk to turn to if things get strange.....hopefully i will stay in touch with them through e-mail so i will pass on your numbers to them.....thanks much.....michael --part1_22.1684af87.283d94b1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit a great big thanks to all who responded.....its nice to know that katy and
karen have some "loopy" folk to turn to if things get strange.....hopefully i
will stay in touch with them through e-mail so i will pass on your numbers to
them.....thanks much.....michael --part1_22.1684af87.283d94b1_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 19:40:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA14449; Wed, 23 May 2001 19:38:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 19:38:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "omjn" To: Subject: RE: attn newcomers (and Kim) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 07:36:42 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0E424.46C75CC0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0E424.46C75CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Re: attn newcomers (and Kim)on books to get started with... i got started to the whole shebang on a couple of electronic music principles books froom the mid seventies, which whilst not entirely computer oriented, have given me a strong historical and technical perspective to start from, and they did have an introductory chapter to computer music (12 bit adc on the $400000 Bell telephone Labs Groove system - wow). best thing is, they were about $10 total from a secondhand store. best value ever! Michael -----Original Message----- From: Richard Zvonar [mailto:zvonar@zvonar.com] Sent: Thursday, 24 May 2001 3:18 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: attn newcomers (and Kim) At 2:57 AM +0900 5/24/01, Robert Duckworth wrote: so, if you are new to this whole thing i would really suggest that you pick up a copy of the curtis roads book "the computer music tutuorial", which you can get anywhere (amazon or b&n) for under $50 i think. A bit more than that, I'm afraid: $62.95 on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0262680823/o/qid=990644600/sr=2-1/103 -9935439-1170206 Depending on your level of interest, there are several other books worth checking out (perhaps at the library first). These are all availabe on Amazon.com: The Csound Book: Perspectives in Software Synthesis, Sound Design, Signal Processing,and Programming by Richard Charles Boulanger (Editor) Computer Music: Synthesis, Composition, and Performance by Charles Dodge, Thomas A. Jerse Computer Sound Synthesis for the Electronic Musician (Music Technology Series) by Eduardo Reck Miranda Composing Interactive Music: Techniques and Ideas Using Max by Todd Winkler Sound Synthesis and Sampling (Music Technology Series) by Martin Russ, Francis Rumsey (Editor) A Programmer's Guide to Sound by Tim Kientzle A DSP Primer by Ken Steiglitz, Kenneth Steiglitz Digital Sound Processing for Music and Multimedia (Music Technology Series) by Ross Kirk, Andy Hunt Midi for the Professional by Paul Lehrman, Tim Tully (Contributor) Maximum MIDI by Paul Messick The Midi Companion by Jeffrey Rona, et al Arranging Techniques for Synthesis (Am 67216) by Eric Turkel, Elizabeth Smith-Eisenhower Synthesizer Basics by Brent Hurtig (Editor) Linux Music & Sound by Dave Phillips Basic MIDI by Paul White (Editor) Experiencing Music Technology by David Brian Williams, Peter Richard Webster Wizoo Guide Cubase VST PlugIns by Ralf Kleinermanns Sound Synthesis and Sampling (Music Technology Series) by Martin Russ, Francis Rumsey (Editor) Basic Digital Recording by Paul White (Editor) Basic MIDI by Paul White (Editor) -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0E424.46C75CC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: attn newcomers (and Kim)
on=20 books to get started with...
 
i got=20 started to the whole shebang on a couple of electronic music principles = books=20 froom the mid seventies, which whilst not entirely computer oriented, = have given=20 me a strong historical and technical perspective to start from, and they = did=20 have an introductory chapter to computer music (12 bit adc on the = $400000 Bell=20 telephone Labs Groove system - wow).  best thing is, they were = about $10=20 total from a secondhand store.  best value = ever!
 
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Zvonar=20 [mailto:zvonar@zvonar.com]
Sent: Thursday, 24 May 2001 3:18=20 AM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re:=20 attn newcomers (and Kim)

At 2:57 AM +0900 5/24/01, Robert Duckworth=20 <tensaimouse@hotmail.com> wrote:=20

so, if you are new to this whole thing i would = really=20 suggest that you pick up a copy of the curtis roads book "the = computer=20 music tutuorial", which you can get anywhere (amazon or b&n) = for under=20 $50 i think.

A bit more than that, I'm afraid: $62.95 on = Amazon.

=
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0262680823/o/qid=3D990644= 600/sr=3D2-1/103-9935439-1170206

Depending on your level of interest, there are several other = books=20 worth checking out (perhaps at the library first).  These are all = availabe on Amazon.com:

The Csound Book: Perspectives in Software Synthesis, = Sound=20 Design, Signal Processing,and Programming by Richard Charles = Boulanger=20 (Editor)

Computer Music: Synthesis, Composition, and = Performance by=20 Charles Dodge, Thomas A. Jerse

Computer Sound Synthesis for the Electronic Musician = (Music=20 Technology Series) by Eduardo Reck Miranda

Composing Interactive Music: Techniques and Ideas = Using Max=20 by Todd Winkler

Sound Synthesis and Sampling (Music Technology Series) = by=20 Martin Russ, Francis Rumsey (Editor)

A Programmer's Guide to Sound by Tim=20 Kientzle

A DSP Primer by Ken Steiglitz, Kenneth=20 Steiglitz

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------=_NextPart_000_000E_01C0E424.46C75CC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 22:25:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA20492; Wed, 23 May 2001 22:23:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:23:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002a01c0e3f9$3b665d20$0b936fd4@y5w2s5> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: <9d.15c5e637.283c5e84@aol.com> <3.0.6.32.20010523174931.0096dae0@mail.dragonet.es> Subject: Re: daugther and friend off too europe tomorrow Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 03:18:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: <4y-nk.A.f_E.8BHD7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes, you're right - sorry for my misspelling. Great part of the world to live -you doing any looping gigs there - what about Barcelona itself for looping opportunities? Gareth > > hi there ! > > i'm near there .... 'Figueres', catalonian, it's alright ... > > > I don't actaully live there but would recommend your kin visits > >the Dali museum in Figuerra, (not sure about the spelling), not too far > >from Barcelona. I did a few weeks ago and really enjoed it. In fact, > >check out Barcelona too! Gareth Snip From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 23 22:25:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA20491; Wed, 23 May 2001 22:23:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 22:23:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002901c0e3f9$3a9e7940$0b936fd4@y5w2s5> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: <9d.15c5e637.283c5e84@aol.com><007b01c0e347$805967e0$05856fd4@dolly> Subject: Re: daugther and friend off too europe tomorrow Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 03:13:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0E3FF.72395720" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0E3FF.72395720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: daugther and friend off too europe tomorrow Make that the world! Gareth >make sure they check out the buildings by A. Gaudi - the most = incredible architecture in >europe ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0E3FF.72395720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: daugther and friend off too europe = tomorrow
 
Make that the world!
 
Gareth

 
>make sure they check out the buildings by A. Gaudi - the most = incredible architecture in >europe
------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0E3FF.72395720-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 24 02:25:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA28782; Thu, 24 May 2001 02:23:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 02:23:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 23:21:30 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Academia [NO LOOPING] In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 9:12 AM +0000 5/23/01, Robert Eberwein wrote: >Once i was in a graduate seminar where the required booklist totaled >345$. I announced to the small class that I had all 7 of these books >and would gladly make copies [of the selected readings] for each >student. The Prof blew a cold chill, and made it very clear that >this would NOT be appropriate. > >My first master's degree taught me nothing I'd not learned as an >undergrad and cost around 20,000$. At 12:22 PM -0400 5/23/01, Tom Ritchford wrote: >Well, I think more and more that I was very lucky to go to a >Canadian university I guess I lucked out in most respects, despite going to an American university (UCSD). In five years of graduate study I had only one class with a text written by a faculty member, and at was Bob Erickson's "Sound Structure in Music" which I already had! I also managed to avoid filling the U's coffers - I even got paid a stipend. That must be why I'm such a brat. However, faculty politics were an ongoing hazard and I found myself a football on occasion. I also experienced the vanishing professor problem. I was enrolled for private composition studies with a particular Very Famous Composer for two quarters and met with him exactly twice. He is now on the faculty at Harvard. Whether he actually teaches there I don't know. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 24 04:43:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA32667; Thu, 24 May 2001 04:41:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 04:41:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: HELP resolution Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 03:33:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0E42C.3DDC284A" Resent-Message-ID: <1bwTKD.A.-9H.tkMD7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E42C.3DDC284A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To be honest, I'd ask an engineer mate to do it, as removing chips can be a tricky business if you're not used to it. The legs can be bent and snapped-off easily and it can be a painful experiance when they suddenly free themselves, flip up and impale your digits. I have scars to prove it! -----Original Message----- From: Steve Sandberg [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net] Sent: 23 May 2001 16:23 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: HELP resolution That was going to be my next suggestion. Glad the show went well but I'd have someone take the lid of your EDP, clean the SIMMs and re-seat the ICs as these problems have a habit of re-appearing; probably halfway through the next gig :-)) Thanks, Andy -- is that something I could do myself? I'm not adverse to doing it if I can do it without causing further problems -- I just didn't want to do it the day of a gig. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E42C.3DDC284A Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Re: HELP resolution
To be honest, I'd ask an engineer mate to do it, as removing chips can be a tricky business if you're not used to it. The legs can be bent and snapped-off easily and it can be a painful experiance when they suddenly free themselves, flip up and impale your digits. I have scars to prove it!
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Sandberg [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net]
Sent: 23 May 2001 16:23
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: HELP resolution

That was going to be my next suggestion.
Glad the show went well but I'd have someone take the lid of your EDP, clean the SIMMs and re-seat the ICs as these problems have a habit of re-appearing; probably halfway through the next gig :-))

Thanks, Andy -- is that something I could do myself?  I'm not adverse to doing it if I can do it without causing further problems -- I just didn't want to do it the day of a gig.
------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E42C.3DDC284A-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 24 05:21:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA01676; Thu, 24 May 2001 05:17:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 05:17:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005001c0e432$3d7a5920$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <20010523145850.27689.qmail@web5103.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: MP3 questions... Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:16:34 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Get a copy of the free WinAmp (http://www.winamp.com) - and just hit Alt-F3 to edit the MP3 info. Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alx" To: Sent: 23 May 2001 15:58 PM Subject: OT: MP3 questions... > Hello, I would like to know how to include artist´s > info on .mp3 clips, here´s my example: when I have a > .wav file using Sound Forge I can include in the .wav > file the artist´s info like song name, composer and > copyright date so that info shows on the media player > when the song is playing but when I encode that same > .wav file (info included) into a .mp3 file the > artist´s info is lost, the media player doesn´t shows > any info anymore, why is that?, I have used "lame" and > "blade" encoders but it´s the same situation with both > of them, I´ve seen many .mp3 clips that shows artist´s > info on the media player screen and I need to include > that info on some clips of my own, is there a special > encoder or editor to do that?. > Thanks. > Alx. > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 24 05:24:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA01794; Thu, 24 May 2001 05:23:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 05:23:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006601c0e433$087c4200$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: Mi2N: The Artists Of MP3.com HAVE Been Fooled Again Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:22:18 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com http://mi2n.com/press.php3?press_nb=23002 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 24 06:06:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA03218; Thu, 24 May 2001 06:01:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 06:01:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B0CDB4F.41ED801E@bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 05:58:39 -0400 From: "Jeff Duke (echo17)" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: MP3 questions... References: <20010523145850.27689.qmail@web5103.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com As Stephen said Winamp is free and easy, I use it as my main player. For encoding and cd burning though I use MusicMatch. I hate the interface sometimes but it is fast on my very ancient machine and it uses both ID2 and ID3 tags. Not one coaster in two years. peace, jd Alx wrote: > Hello, I would like to know how to include artist´s > info on .mp3 clips, is there a special > encoder or editor to do that?. > Thanks. > Alx. > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 24 09:02:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA06814; Thu, 24 May 2001 08:56:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 08:56:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <3a.156fd652.283e5ec3@aol.com> Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 08:55:31 EDT Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Check=20out=20Harmony=20Central=AE:=20New=20Easy-?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?to-Use=20DJ=20Loop=20Sampler=20from=20Red=20Sound?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_3a.156fd652.283e5ec3_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: <3phZ8D.A.EqB.ITQD7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_3a.156fd652.283e5ec3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Click here:=20= Harmony Central=AE: New Easy-to-Use DJ Loop Sampler from Red Sound=20 --part1_3a.156fd652.283e5ec3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Click here: Harmony Central=AE: New E= asy-to-Use DJ Loop Sampler from Red Sound=20
--part1_3a.156fd652.283e5ec3_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 24 09:45:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA08554; Thu, 24 May 2001 09:42:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 09:42:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Authentication-Warning: partagas.dragonet.es: 193-153-189-240.uc.nombres.ttd.es [193.153.189.240] didn't use HELO protocol Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010524154910.00962320@mail.dragonet.es> X-Sender: d3055@mail.dragonet.es X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 15:49:10 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Junkie G Subject: Looping in Catalonia In-Reply-To: <002a01c0e3f9$3b665d20$0b936fd4@y5w2s5> References: <9d.15c5e637.283c5e84@aol.com> <3.0.6.32.20010523174931.0096dae0@mail.dragonet.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 03:18 a.m. 24/05/01 +0100, you wrote: hi gareth yes, i include looping tools in my setup (plex&headrush) not a real loopy community here ... Junkie G >Yes, you're right - sorry for my misspelling. >Great part of the world to live -you doing any looping gigs there - what >about Barcelona itself for looping opportunities? > >Gareth Doctor_Sax_News http://www.dragonet.es/users/d3055/Doctor_Sax_News From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 24 10:38:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA10450; Thu, 24 May 2001 10:32:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 10:32:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "J. Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: MP3 questions... Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 07:29:57 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <005001c0e432$3d7a5920$0201a8c0@stephen> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Look also into a tool called "Renamer," by Albert Bertilsson. It's free. There's also a Web ring dedicated to free renaming tools. http://www.albert.nu/Programs/Renamer/ http://nav.webring.yahoo.com/hub?ring=rename&list This free utility allows you to grab whole groups of MP3 files in one or more folders, and make changes to the MP3 info of each file. You could take, say, all the MP3 files for a specific album, and make them all be uniform for album name, copyright information, etc. Renamer would allow you to take the bunch of WAVs and edit all the MP3 information that is common among them, at one time. Winamp and Renamer allow you to edit information in one at a time as well. Javier Berkeley | -----Original Message----- | From: Stephen P. Goodman [mailto:spgoodman@earthlight.net] | Sent: Thursday 24 May 2001 2:17 AM | To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com | Subject: Re: MP3 questions... | | | Get a copy of the free WinAmp (http://www.winamp.com) - and | just hit Alt-F3 | to edit the MP3 info. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 24 15:09:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA20282; Thu, 24 May 2001 15:02:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 15:02:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 14:28:03 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: Check out Harmony =?iso-8859-1?Q?Central=AE=3A?= New Easy-to-Use DJ Loop Sampler from Red Sound Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <3R7kQ.A.S8E.8qVD7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com just for the record, I think this is a really neat little box that Emanuel and co. have put together... for a DJ who wants to loop, it's exactly what's needed. and you could just stuff it into a knapsack... /t ...electronic a cappella madness ......... ...extreme internet radio ... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 24 16:18:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA22799; Thu, 24 May 2001 16:15:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:15:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: matthias@pop.e-net.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 17:15:00 +0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: RE: attn newcomers (and Kim) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <66pf-C.A.DkF.hvWD7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > >But something like an EDP, or even more, an Eventide/Orville/Kyma... >you gotta read the manual until it's dog-eared! As for the EDP, I do not agree. You can find a lot in the manuals, but you can start without them. Just push Record, play, push Record again, and its rolling. Overdub overdubs and so on, the basic functions explain themselves. Then yes, there is more hidden stuff you may or may not need... -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 24 16:18:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA22798; Thu, 24 May 2001 16:15:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:15:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010524141948.007be100@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 14:19:48 -0600 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: a couple of quickie questions... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi everyone, I'm curious, do either the RC-20 or the Headrush run in true stereo? Are there any pedals at all with a loop sampler or delay with a hold function, with at least eight seconds of sampling time, which run in true stereo? Thanks for any help or ideas anyone might have. I've been using a Jam Man for quite some time now, but have recently picked up a DL-4 which I like very much. Unfortunatlly, when I've been working with it, on the particular system I've been using lately, it's been difficult to hear whether the looped playback was in stereo or not. -And to my dismay, after using it with headphones, I found out that it in fact wasn't. anyway, I'm looking for a pedal at the moment rather than another rack unit as I'm trying to go as portable as possible. It figures, every other function in the DL-4 is stereo, except the one I'm really concerned with! YUCK! anyway, thanks for taking time to read this, and again, any suggestions are much appreciated. thanks alot, have a great day! smiles, Goddess --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 24 16:29:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA23112; Thu, 24 May 2001 16:26:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:26:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB291@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: so cal gig spam Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:24:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0E48F.96172790" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E48F.96172790 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" THE SCOT RAY QUINTET / Sat. May 26th JEFF GAUTHIER - Electric Violins NELS CLINE - Electric Guitars, Loopage ALEX CLINE - Drumset/Percussion STEUART LIEBIG - Electric Basses, Loopage SCOT RAY - Trombone/Compositions SATURDAY, MAY 26, 8:00 PM LIRA/LAHC IMPROVISED MUSIC CONCERT SERIES AT THE LOS ANGELES HARBOR COLLEGE MUSIC RECITAL HALL $10.00 GENERAL ADMISSION $5.00 STUDENTS with VALID ID FREE PARKING IN LOT H 1111 Figueroa Place Wilmington, CA (Directions below) Call (323)267-1830 for additional info DIRECTIONS Take the Harbor Fwy (110 South) EXIT at ANAHEIM STREET - 1 offramp past PCH Right turn to FIGUEROA PLACE Left Turn at L STREET Park in LOT H on your left hand side PARKING IS FREE ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E48F.96172790 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" so cal gig spam

THE SCOT RAY QUINTET / Sat. May 26th

JEFF GAUTHIER - Electric Violins
NELS CLINE - Electric Guitars, Loopage
ALEX CLINE - Drumset/Percussion
STEUART LIEBIG - Electric Basses, Loopage
SCOT RAY - Trombone/Compositions

SATURDAY, MAY 26, 8:00 PM
LIRA/LAHC IMPROVISED MUSIC CONCERT SERIES
AT THE LOS ANGELES HARBOR COLLEGE MUSIC RECITAL HALL
$10.00 GENERAL ADMISSION
$5.00 STUDENTS with VALID ID
FREE PARKING IN LOT H
1111 Figueroa Place
Wilmington, CA (Directions below)
Call  (323)267-1830 for additional info



DIRECTIONS
Take the Harbor Fwy (110 South)
EXIT at ANAHEIM STREET - 1 offramp past PCH
Right turn to FIGUEROA PLACE
Left Turn at L STREET
Park in LOT H on your left hand side
PARKING IS FREE


------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E48F.96172790-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 24 16:34:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA23368; Thu, 24 May 2001 16:32:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 16:32:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JFink@cabq.gov To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: a couple of quickie questions... MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 14:31:23 -0600 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on mesa/PUBCABQ(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 05/24/2001 02:33:10 PM Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com dunno about the RC-20, but I have a Headrush and is definitly NOT stereo at all. Looks like the Repeater is true stereo, but racked... I cant wait! later, -jas http://dimbulb.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 24 17:03:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA24983; Thu, 24 May 2001 17:01:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:01:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000b01c0e495$026976a0$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "Clifford@BienAppraisers" To: References: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB291@migarexch01.maritz.com> Subject: Re: so cal gig spam Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 14:03:39 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0E45A.5528CA20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0E45A.5528CA20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable so cal gig spamDamn man, I'm going to see the Dalai Llama Ding Donga = that night- someone please record this show and contact me- if I am not = mistaken they are ok with it- Stu- is that the trombone guy from = Alterknit show? That shit was dope-=20 Cliff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Liebig, Steuart A.=20 To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'=20 Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 1:24 PM Subject: so cal gig spam THE SCOT RAY QUINTET / Sat. May 26th=20 JEFF GAUTHIER - Electric Violins=20 NELS CLINE - Electric Guitars, Loopage=20 ALEX CLINE - Drumset/Percussion=20 STEUART LIEBIG - Electric Basses, Loopage=20 SCOT RAY - Trombone/Compositions=20 SATURDAY, MAY 26, 8:00 PM=20 LIRA/LAHC IMPROVISED MUSIC CONCERT SERIES=20 AT THE LOS ANGELES HARBOR COLLEGE MUSIC RECITAL HALL=20 $10.00 GENERAL ADMISSION=20 $5.00 STUDENTS with VALID ID=20 FREE PARKING IN LOT H=20 1111 Figueroa Place=20 Wilmington, CA (Directions below)=20 Call (323)267-1830 for additional info=20 DIRECTIONS=20 Take the Harbor Fwy (110 South)=20 EXIT at ANAHEIM STREET - 1 offramp past PCH=20 Right turn to FIGUEROA PLACE=20 Left Turn at L STREET=20 Park in LOT H on your left hand side=20 PARKING IS FREE=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0E45A.5528CA20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable so cal gig spam
Damn man, I'm going to see the Dalai Llama Ding = Donga that=20 night- someone please record this show and contact me- if I am not = mistaken they=20 are ok with it- Stu- is that the trombone guy from Alterknit show? That = shit was=20 dope-
 
Cliff
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Liebig, Steuart A. =
To: 'Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com'=20
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 = 1:24=20 PM
Subject: so cal gig spam


THE SCOT RAY QUINTET / Sat. May 26th

JEFF GAUTHIER - Electric Violins
NELS=20 CLINE - Electric Guitars, Loopage
ALEX CLINE = -=20 Drumset/Percussion
STEUART LIEBIG - Electric = Basses,=20 Loopage
SCOT RAY - = Trombone/Compositions

SATURDAY, MAY 26, 8:00 PM
LIRA/LAHC=20 IMPROVISED MUSIC CONCERT SERIES
AT THE LOS = ANGELES=20 HARBOR COLLEGE MUSIC RECITAL HALL
$10.00 = GENERAL=20 ADMISSION
$5.00 STUDENTS with VALID = ID=20
FREE PARKING IN LOT H
1111 Figueroa=20 Place
Wilmington, CA (Directions = below)=20
Call  (323)267-1830 for additional info =



DIRECTIONS
Take the Harbor = Fwy (110=20 South)
EXIT at ANAHEIM STREET - 1 offramp = past=20 PCH
Right turn to FIGUEROA PLACE =
Left Turn at L STREET
Park in LOT H = on your=20 left hand side
PARKING IS FREE=20


------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0E45A.5528CA20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 24 17:11:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA25200; Thu, 24 May 2001 17:09:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:09:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB295@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: so cal gig spam Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:06:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0E495.772C5CF0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7251 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E495.772C5CF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" that's the same band. you'd have to ask scot, but i bet it's okay with him if you tape. stig -----Original Message----- From: Clifford@BienAppraisers [mailto:bienappraisers@mindspring.com] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 2:04 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: so cal gig spam Damn man, I'm going to see the Dalai Llama Ding Donga that night- someone please record this show and contact me- if I am not mistaken they are ok with it- Stu- is that the trombone guy from Alterknit show? That shit was dope- Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: Liebig, Steuart A. To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com' Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 1:24 PM Subject: so cal gig spam THE SCOT RAY QUINTET / Sat. May 26th JEFF GAUTHIER - Electric Violins NELS CLINE - Electric Guitars, Loopage ALEX CLINE - Drumset/Percussion STEUART LIEBIG - Electric Basses, Loopage SCOT RAY - Trombone/Compositions SATURDAY, MAY 26, 8:00 PM LIRA/LAHC IMPROVISED MUSIC CONCERT SERIES AT THE LOS ANGELES HARBOR COLLEGE MUSIC RECITAL HALL $10.00 GENERAL ADMISSION $5.00 STUDENTS with VALID ID FREE PARKING IN LOT H 1111 Figueroa Place Wilmington, CA (Directions below) Call (323)267-1830 for additional info DIRECTIONS Take the Harbor Fwy (110 South) EXIT at ANAHEIM STREET - 1 offramp past PCH Right turn to FIGUEROA PLACE Left Turn at L STREET Park in LOT H on your left hand side PARKING IS FREE ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E495.772C5CF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" so cal gig spam
that's the same band. you'd have to ask scot, but i bet it's okay with him if you tape.
 
stig
-----Original Message-----
From: Clifford@BienAppraisers [mailto:bienappraisers@mindspring.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 2:04 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: so cal gig spam

Damn man, I'm going to see the Dalai Llama Ding Donga that night- someone please record this show and contact me- if I am not mistaken they are ok with it- Stu- is that the trombone guy from Alterknit show? That shit was dope-
 
Cliff
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 1:24 PM
Subject: so cal gig spam


THE SCOT RAY QUINTET / Sat. May 26th

JEFF GAUTHIER - Electric Violins
NELS CLINE - Electric Guitars, Loopage
ALEX CLINE - Drumset/Percussion
STEUART LIEBIG - Electric Basses, Loopage
SCOT RAY - Trombone/Compositions

SATURDAY, MAY 26, 8:00 PM
LIRA/LAHC IMPROVISED MUSIC CONCERT SERIES
AT THE LOS ANGELES HARBOR COLLEGE MUSIC RECITAL HALL
$10.00 GENERAL ADMISSION
$5.00 STUDENTS with VALID ID
FREE PARKING IN LOT H
1111 Figueroa Place
Wilmington, CA (Directions below)
Call  (323)267-1830 for additional info



DIRECTIONS
Take the Harbor Fwy (110 South)
EXIT at ANAHEIM STREET - 1 offramp past PCH
Right turn to FIGUEROA PLACE
Left Turn at L STREET
Park in LOT H on your left hand side
PARKING IS FREE


------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E495.772C5CF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 24 17:13:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA25402; Thu, 24 May 2001 17:11:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:11:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B0D78CC.C1DC7E61@altruistmusic.com> Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 14:10:36 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: so cal gig spam References: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB291@migarexch01.maritz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4q21TB.A.tMG.BkXD7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Big, big, big recommendations on this band. Minds will be blown. I'm still recovering from the Knitting Factory show a couple of months back. (Stig, please say hi and "welcome home" to Scot for me, if you think of it... but no big deal if you don't.) --A > "Liebig, Steuart A." wrote: > > THE SCOT RAY QUINTET / Sat. May 26th > > JEFF GAUTHIER - Electric Violins > NELS CLINE - Electric Guitars, Loopage > ALEX CLINE - Drumset/Percussion > STEUART LIEBIG - Electric Basses, Loopage > SCOT RAY - Trombone/Compositions > > SATURDAY, MAY 26, 8:00 PM > LIRA/LAHC IMPROVISED MUSIC CONCERT SERIES > AT THE LOS ANGELES HARBOR COLLEGE MUSIC RECITAL HALL > $10.00 GENERAL ADMISSION > $5.00 STUDENTS with VALID ID > FREE PARKING IN LOT H > 1111 Figueroa Place > Wilmington, CA (Directions below) > Call (323)267-1830 for additional info > > DIRECTIONS > Take the Harbor Fwy (110 South) > EXIT at ANAHEIM STREET - 1 offramp past PCH > Right turn to FIGUEROA PLACE > Left Turn at L STREET > Park in LOT H on your left hand side > PARKING IS FREE From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 24 17:36:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA25847; Thu, 24 May 2001 17:33:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:33:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 14:21:18 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: so cal gig spam In-reply-to: <000b01c0e495$026976a0$7bb387d8@cliff> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB291@migarexch01.maritz.com> <000b01c0e495$026976a0$7bb387d8@cliff> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 2:03 PM -0700 5/24/01, Clifford@BienAppraisers wrote: >Damn man, I'm going to see the Dalai Llama Ding Donga that night And I'm going to Harry Parch. Same thing happened last weekend - the Microfest at CalArts conflicted with David Tudor at the Getty Center. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 24 17:47:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA26158; Thu, 24 May 2001 17:45:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:45:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB297@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: so cal gig spam Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:43:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0E49A.928DFFD0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E49A.928DFFD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" yeah. a friend told me about the partch deal - - i'm, "hey i can't go,i'm playing" . . . stig -----Original Message----- From: Richard Zvonar [mailto:zvonar@zvonar.com] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 2:21 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: so cal gig spam At 2:03 PM -0700 5/24/01, Clifford@BienAppraisers wrote: >Damn man, I'm going to see the Dalai Llama Ding Donga that night And I'm going to Harry Parch. Same thing happened last weekend - the Microfest at CalArts conflicted with David Tudor at the Getty Center. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E49A.928DFFD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: so cal gig spam

yeah. a friend told me about the partch deal - - i'm, = "hey i can't go,i'm playing" . . .

stig

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Zvonar [mailto:zvonar@zvonar.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 2:21 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: so cal gig spam


At 2:03 PM -0700 5/24/01, Clifford@BienAppraisers = wrote:
>Damn man, I'm going to see the Dalai Llama Ding = Donga that night

And I'm going to Harry Parch. Same thing happened = last weekend - the
Microfest at CalArts conflicted with David Tudor at = the Getty Center.
--

______________________________________________________________<= /FONT>
Richard Zvonar, PhD
(818) 788-2202
http://www.zvonar.com
http://RZCybernetics.com
http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone
http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart= =3Drz

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E49A.928DFFD0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 24 17:57:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA26377; Thu, 24 May 2001 17:55:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:55:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003101c0e49c$9e2aa580$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "MediaOne" To: References: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB297@migarexch01.maritz.com> Subject: OT:Re: so cal gig spam Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 14:58:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002E_01C0E461.EF58AAA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C0E461.EF58AAA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: so cal gig spam.....Zakir Hussein tonight up there near the Getty = too- will be awesome-=20 Cliff ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Liebig, Steuart A.=20 To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'=20 Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 2:43 PM Subject: RE: so cal gig spam yeah. a friend told me about the partch deal - - i'm, "hey i can't = go,i'm playing" . . .=20 stig=20 -----Original Message-----=20 From: Richard Zvonar [mailto:zvonar@zvonar.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 2:21 PM=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Subject: Re: so cal gig spam=20 At 2:03 PM -0700 5/24/01, Clifford@BienAppraisers wrote:=20 >Damn man, I'm going to see the Dalai Llama Ding Donga that night=20 And I'm going to Harry Parch. Same thing happened last weekend - the=20 Microfest at CalArts conflicted with David Tudor at the Getty Center.=20 --=20 ______________________________________________________________=20 Richard Zvonar, PhD=20 (818) 788-2202=20 http://www.zvonar.com=20 http://RZCybernetics.com=20 http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone=20 http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=3Drz=20 ------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C0E461.EF58AAA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: so cal gig spam
.....Zakir Hussein tonight up there near the Getty = too- will=20 be awesome-
 
Cliff
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Liebig, Steuart A. =
To: 'Loopers-Delight@lo= opers-delight.com'=20
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 = 2:43=20 PM
Subject: RE: so cal gig = spam

yeah. a friend told me about the partch deal - - = i'm, "hey i=20 can't go,i'm playing" . . .

stig

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 Richard Zvonar [mailto:zvonar@zvonar.com] =
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 2:21 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Subject: Re: so cal gig spam


At 2:03 PM -0700 5/24/01, Clifford@BienAppraisers=20 wrote:
>Damn man, I'm going to see the = Dalai Llama=20 Ding Donga that night

And I'm going to Harry Parch. Same thing happened = last weekend=20 - the
Microfest at CalArts conflicted with = David Tudor=20 at the Getty Center.
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------=_NextPart_000_002E_01C0E461.EF58AAA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 24 18:09:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA27654; Thu, 24 May 2001 18:06:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 18:06:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB298@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Re: so cal gig spam Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 18:04:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0E49D.7FCDB540" Resent-Message-ID: <8ec1AD.A.3vG._WYD7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E49D.7FCDB540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" who woulda thunk it - - l.a. has a hotbed of cool stuff to hear . . . -----Original Message----- From: MediaOne [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 2:58 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT:Re: so cal gig spam .....Zakir Hussein tonight up there near the Getty too- will be awesome- Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: Liebig, Steuart A. To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com' Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 2:43 PM Subject: RE: so cal gig spam yeah. a friend told me about the partch deal - - i'm, "hey i can't go,i'm playing" . . . stig -----Original Message----- From: Richard Zvonar [ mailto:zvonar@zvonar.com ] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 2:21 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: so cal gig spam At 2:03 PM -0700 5/24/01, Clifford@BienAppraisers wrote: >Damn man, I'm going to see the Dalai Llama Ding Donga that night And I'm going to Harry Parch. Same thing happened last weekend - the Microfest at CalArts conflicted with David Tudor at the Getty Center. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E49D.7FCDB540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: so cal gig spam
who woulda thunk it - - l.a. has a hotbed of cool stuff to hear . . .
-----Original Message-----
From: MediaOne [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 2:58 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT:Re: so cal gig spam

.....Zakir Hussein tonight up there near the Getty too- will be awesome-
 
Cliff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 2:43 PM
Subject: RE: so cal gig spam

yeah. a friend told me about the partch deal - - i'm, "hey i can't go,i'm playing" . . .

stig

-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Zvonar [mailto:zvonar@zvonar.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 2:21 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: so cal gig spam


At 2:03 PM -0700 5/24/01, Clifford@BienAppraisers wrote:
>Damn man, I'm going to see the Dalai Llama Ding Donga that night

And I'm going to Harry Parch. Same thing happened last weekend - the
Microfest at CalArts conflicted with David Tudor at the Getty Center.
--

______________________________________________________________
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http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E49D.7FCDB540-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 24 18:38:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA28193; Thu, 24 May 2001 18:35:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 18:35:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 15:13:42 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: OT:Re: so cal gig spam In-reply-to: <003101c0e49c$9e2aa580$7bb387d8@cliff> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1221379610==_ma============" References: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB297@migarexch01.maritz.com> <003101c0e49c$9e2aa580$7bb387d8@cliff> Resent-Message-ID: <1vZQe.A.W4G.eyYD7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1221379610==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 2:58 PM -0700 5/24/01, MediaOne wrote: >.....Zakir Hussein tonight up there near the Getty too- will be awesome- Pandit Shivkumar Sharma & Ustad Zakir Hussain Wednesday, May 23, 8:00 p.m. & Thursday, May 24, 8:00 p.m. Cotsen Auditorium Skirball Cultural Center 2701 N. Sepulveda Blvd. Los Angeles, CA 90049 $28 General / $25 Members / $20 Students Advance tickets recommended. To purchase tickets by phone call Tickets L.A. at (323)655-8587 -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz --============_-1221379610==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: OT:Re: so cal gig spam
At 2:58 PM -0700 5/24/01, MediaOne wrote:
.....Zakir Hussein tonight up there near the Getty too- will be awesome-

Pandit Shivkumar Sharma & Ustad Zakir Hussain
Wednesday, May 23, 8:00 p.m. & Thursday, May 24, 8:00 p.m.
Cotsen Auditorium
Skirball Cultural Center
2701 N. Sepulveda Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90049
$28 General / $25 Members / $20 Students
Advance tickets recommended.
To purchase tickets by phone call Tickets L.A. at (323)655-8587
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--============_-1221379610==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 24 18:38:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA28108; Thu, 24 May 2001 18:31:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 18:31:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.148.1.172] From: "Peter Underwood" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Re: so cal gig spam Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 15:29:56 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 May 2001 22:29:57.0233 (UTC) FILETIME=[0FCCEE10:01C0E4A1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Looks like it is more of a case of "when it rains it pours." >From: "Liebig, Steuart A." >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" > >Subject: RE: Re: so cal gig spam >Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 18:04:27 -0400 > >who woulda thunk it - - l.a. has a hotbed of cool stuff to hear . . . > >-----Original Message----- >From: MediaOne [mailto:clifsound@mediaone.net] >Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 2:58 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: OT:Re: so cal gig spam > > >.....Zakir Hussein tonight up there near the Getty too- will be awesome- > >Cliff > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Liebig, Steuart A. >To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com' > >Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 2:43 PM >Subject: RE: so cal gig spam > > >yeah. a friend told me about the partch deal - - i'm, "hey i can't go,i'm >playing" . . . > >stig > >-----Original Message----- >From: Richard Zvonar [ mailto:zvonar@zvonar.com >] > >Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 2:21 PM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Subject: Re: so cal gig spam > > >At 2:03 PM -0700 5/24/01, Clifford@BienAppraisers > wrote: > >Damn man, I'm going to see the Dalai Llama Ding Donga that night > >And I'm going to Harry Parch. Same thing happened last weekend - the >Microfest at CalArts conflicted with David Tudor at the Getty Center. >-- > >______________________________________________________________ >Richard Zvonar, PhD >(818) 788-2202 >http://www.zvonar.com >http://RZCybernetics.com >http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone >http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 24 20:06:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA32003; Thu, 24 May 2001 20:02:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 20:02:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B0DA1C5.5D215945@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 17:13:16 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: attn newcomers (and Kim) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Matthias Grob wrote: > > > >But something like an EDP, or even more, an Eventide/Orville/Kyma... > >you gotta read the manual until it's dog-eared! > > As for the EDP, I do not agree. You can find a lot in the manuals, > but you can start without them. Just push Record, play, push Record > again, and its rolling. Overdub overdubs and so on, the basic > functions explain themselves. Then yes, there is more hidden stuff > you may or may not need... > > -- > > ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org i agree, most definitely- i let a friend play through my edp the other night- i had to show him the basic footswitch modes, but he was off & running in no time and came up with some pretty wild and musical stuff...i think the basics of playing in time with your loops (and with others), and just being creative make the most difference...of course someone who has that down AND knows their tools inside & out can really do some amazing shite- there seem to be lots of those kind of folks on this list! lance g. ps i'm going to the partch shindig tomorrow. wish we had those LD t-shirts... :-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 25 10:53:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25365; Fri, 25 May 2001 10:50:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 10:50:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Kntrabnd@aol.com Message-ID: <7a.155face4.283fcae2@aol.com> Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 10:49:06 EDT Subject: unsubscribe me To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com PLEASE From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 25 10:56:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25493; Fri, 25 May 2001 10:54:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 10:54:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Kntrabnd@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 10:53:11 EDT Subject: help To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 8 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com can someone tell me how to get off this list. thank you From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 25 11:04:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA26843; Fri, 25 May 2001 11:02:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 11:02:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000e01c0e52b$9e7fbd60$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <7a.155face4.283fcae2@aol.com> Subject: Re: unsubscribe me Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 16:01:45 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com To quote the immortal line from a Japanese series I can't remember but was taglined at the end of Mystery Science Theater 3000: "You're stuck here!" Happy Towel Day everyone. http://www.towelday.org S. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: 25 May 2001 15:49 PM Subject: unsubscribe me > PLEASE > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 25 12:34:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA29511; Fri, 25 May 2001 12:30:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 12:30:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Brad Chase" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight. com" , "DEAN DEALTRY" , "labassistant -the looper" , "patientx" , "Steven Goodman-Earthlight" , "Troy the SoundMan" Subject: SYNTHCON Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 09:30:59 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-SLUIDL: 33E083F7-4A1B11D5-BA900001-02769B72 Resent-Message-ID: <0A3R_C.A.VMH.shoD7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com CHECK IT OUT IF YOU ARE IN LA THIS WEEKEND. STARTS TODAY BRAD http://www.synthcon.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 25 14:23:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA00953; Fri, 25 May 2001 14:21:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 14:21:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B0EA334.F0F4619D@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 11:23:48 -0700 From: Jim Poppen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: help References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <7_q3HC.A.kO.VKqD7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com To unsubscribe, send mail with the word "unsubscribe" in both the subject and body, and no sig files or anything else, to: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com If you are on the digest version of Looper's Delight, send your unsubscribe request to: Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com Kntrabnd@aol.com wrote: > > can someone tell me how to get off this list. > thank you From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 25 14:26:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA00952; Fri, 25 May 2001 14:21:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 14:21:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 20:18:27 +0200 Subject: Loopers-Network From: Pohon-Kelapa@t-online.de (Martin Tauchen) To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Message-ID: <153MCy-1e1Q12C@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> X-Sender: 0265142411-0001@t-dialin.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id OAA00878 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com A precious Hello to all Loopers, Loopers Delight is a great Forum for everybody who is busy in various forms of looping. A real great network,where I got a lot of new ideas from.From a technical side the same as from musical,music theory and so on.Really a great platform ! If not already realized(then please forget this tiny,stupid question),then it could be another fine thing,to make a catalogue for venues,wich are "well suited" for looping artists of all kinds. Maybe on festivals or "looping only" events. In the US such a catalogue is already exisiting,but I would recommend,to widden it up to Europe. In Europe their is a small but tough looping community.And I guess in Japan or Australia too. So why not realize a "Map" for Live Loopers? Besides such events,could also be a kind of conference about the newest efforts in the scene. For the region of Germany,where I live in,I know around 3 venues,wich are openminded for looping musicans. So the Network could make it possible to have -for example- a Germany Tour for an US-Looper. If more US Loopers make together a Tour,it could be a big programme for a show.Maybe also with a "looping improvisation"....... This is just an example.... What I want to say is,to have a network,where virtuality changes to Reality.The Looper Cracks at a regional location could organize the event,connected to the upper national Looper Ring,they could arrange a "Germany Tour" for example..... Wouldn´t it be great to listen to Matthias Grob on Tour,together with Claude Voit and maybe me ? hahahahaha......Just an idea ! And I mean really all kind of loopers.If you are guitarist,if you are DJ,if you are a vocalist or just the Capuccino Man who likes to loop his Coffeemashine..... Could it be an idea ? Marty From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 25 14:41:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01333; Fri, 25 May 2001 14:38:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 14:38:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000b01c0e549$d11ebdc0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <153MCy-1e1Q12C@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> Subject: Re: Loopers-Network Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 19:37:55 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Stellar idea! If I had any sites in London I'd let you know! How about Amsterdam? :) Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! http://www.live365.com/stations/218194 * EarthLight Online / Live! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 25 16:40:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05672; Fri, 25 May 2001 16:38:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 16:38:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B0EC289.4904E329@zerocrossing.net> Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 13:37:23 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: sample looper boss Dr. Sample SP-303 (?) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey loopkids, Gotta 3 day weekend ahead of me and a $100 dollar gift certificate at the Guitar Center (as if they sell much under a $100....) and I was wondering about the Boss Dr. Sample SP-303. I really like the idea of being able to sample anywhere using it's battery feature. (Pat Mastelotto uses it a LOT on the ProjecKt X cd... a great cd imho) Have any of you used it? Is it worth the $300? Are there better? Should I save my cash and get something more real? My main purpose is to sample bits of media (movies, tv, self help tapes, ect...) and bring it into the mix. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 25 17:04:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA07194; Fri, 25 May 2001 17:03:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 17:03:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 14:00:44 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: Re: sample looper boss Dr. Sample SP-303 (?) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id RAA07163 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I don't own one myself, but I've seen them used very effectively by people I've collaborated with and at shows. Their size really makes them attractive. Price is pretty good too... -Miko >>> sine@zerocrossing.net 05/25/01 01:37PM >>> Hey loopkids, Gotta 3 day weekend ahead of me and a $100 dollar gift certificate at the Guitar Center (as if they sell much under a $100....) and I was wondering about the Boss Dr. Sample SP-303. I really like the idea of being able to sample anywhere using it's battery feature. (Pat Mastelotto uses it a LOT on the ProjecKt X cd... a great cd imho) Have any of you used it? Is it worth the $300? Are there better? Should I save my cash and get something more real? My main purpose is to sample bits of media (movies, tv, self help tapes, ect...) and bring it into the mix. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 25 17:17:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA07491; Fri, 25 May 2001 17:15:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 17:15:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008501c0e560$390f50a0$0fee5818@nc.rr.com> Reply-To: "diatom drone" From: "diatom drone" To: References: <3B0EC289.4904E329@zerocrossing.net> Subject: Re: sample looper boss Dr. Sample SP-303 (?) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 17:18:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <0xB7pC.A.30B.dtsD7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I had one of these for a while. It has stereo RCA ins and outs, so it would be easy to hook VCRs and tape decks into it and run the audio out to a mixer. At first when I did this I was using the tape ins on the mixer/4 track/whatever, but really it's a better idea to get a cable that has dual RCA on one end and dual 1/4" plugs on the other. That way you can plug into two powered channels and have more control over the eq, levels, panning plus effects and whatnot. If you're saving 100 bucks, you might want to spend that money on a smart card fo rmore sample storage. If you stay in high quality mode you run out of memory kinda fast, and you can play less stuff at once, use less effects etc. If you're just looking to have good quality one-shot samples at your fingertips, this isn't bad. As for the batteries... Sorry to be a doomsayer but this thing eats AAs fast. Mine only took a few hours to drain enough so that it wouldn't fully power up. Either buy a lot of cheap ones or invest in a 9v wall wart. Don't just take my word for it though, I only had mine a short while because I needed the cash back. You might be able to find one for cheaper on ebay if you dig around, it seems like a lot of people sold theirs. Whether you buy from the store or try to find one used online, I'd definitely try it out in the store first. Take a discman with a 1/8" to dual RCA cable and try sampling that way. If they don't have it hooked up, make them do it. You have a right to hear anything before you buy it. We don't have Guitar Center here so I'm not sure what they're like to their customers. I'd try a few things out, but you may be pleased with this little critter. And hey if you don't like it, you've got the beginnings of a fund for a more high end sampler, right? Hope this helped. Jon > > Gotta 3 day weekend ahead of me and a $100 dollar gift certificate at > the Guitar Center (as if they sell much under a $100....) > > and I was wondering about the Boss Dr. Sample SP-303. I really like the > idea of being able to sample anywhere using it's battery feature. (Pat > Mastelotto uses it a LOT on the ProjecKt X cd... a great cd imho) Have > any of you used it? Is it worth the $300? Are there better? Should I > save my cash and get something more real? My main purpose is to sample > bits of media (movies, tv, self help tapes, ect...) and bring it into > the mix. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 25 18:05:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA09515; Fri, 25 May 2001 18:04:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 18:04:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010525160806.007f3b80@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: thefates@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 16:08:06 -0600 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Goddess Subject: Re: Loopers-Network In-Reply-To: <153MCy-1e1Q12C@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id SAA09488 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Marty, -An absolutely super idea in my opinion! I'm actually getting another solo live loop performance together, so am also looking for venues in my area. Do you have any more info on the US version of that catalog you mentioned? Smiles, G At 08:18 PM 5/25/01 +0200, you wrote: > A precious Hello to all Loopers, > > >Loopers Delight is a great Forum for everybody who is busy in various forms >of looping. >A real great network,where I got a lot of new ideas from.From a technical >side the same >as from musical,music theory and so on.Really a great platform ! > >If not already realized(then please forget this tiny,stupid question),then >it could be another >fine thing,to make a catalogue for venues,wich are "well suited" for looping >artists of all kinds. >Maybe on festivals or "looping only" events. > >In the US such a catalogue is already exisiting,but I would recommend,to >widden it up to Europe. >In Europe their is a small but tough looping community.And I guess in Japan >or Australia too. >So why not realize a "Map" for Live Loopers? >Besides such events,could also be a kind of conference about the newest >efforts in the scene. > >For the region of Germany,where I live in,I know around 3 venues,wich are >openminded for looping >musicans. >So the Network could make it possible to have -for example- a Germany Tour >for an US-Looper. >If more US Loopers make together a Tour,it could be a big programme for a >show.Maybe also >with a "looping improvisation"....... >This is just an example.... > >What I want to say is,to have a network,where virtuality changes to >Reality.The Looper Cracks >at a regional location could organize the event,connected to the upper >national Looper Ring,they >could arrange a "Germany Tour" for example..... > >Wouldn´t it be great to listen to Matthias Grob on Tour,together with Claude >Voit and maybe me ? >hahahahaha......Just an idea ! > >And I mean really all kind of loopers.If you are guitarist,if you are DJ,if >you are a vocalist or just >the Capuccino Man who likes to loop his Coffeemashine..... > >Could it be an idea ? > > >Marty > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "The only things I really think are important, are love, and eachother. -Then, anything is possible..." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 25 19:35:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12236; Fri, 25 May 2001 19:33:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 19:33:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <6.172079ee.2840455b@aol.com> Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 19:31:39 EDT Subject: why would ya want to leave this list? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6.172079ee.2840455b_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: <5lPH3D.A.w-C.8tuD7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_6.172079ee.2840455b_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/25/01 4:38:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sine@zerocrossing.net writes: > ? My main purpose is to sample > bits of media (movies, tv, self help tapes, ect...) and bring it into > the mix. > > yipes!......who dosent want to do that?.....m n.p. kevin miller's "km stuff for mk".....ouch, gotta luv it! --part1_6.172079ee.2840455b_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/25/01 4:38:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
sine@zerocrossing.net writes:


?  My main purpose is to sample
bits of media (movies, tv, self help tapes, ect...) and bring it into
the mix.



yipes!......who dosent want to do that?.....m

n.p. kevin miller's "km stuff for mk".....ouch, gotta luv it! --part1_6.172079ee.2840455b_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri May 25 23:05:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA19612; Fri, 25 May 2001 23:02:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 23:02:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.116.141] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: sample looper boss Dr. Sample SP-303 (?) Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 03:01:19 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 May 2001 03:01:19.0981 (UTC) FILETIME=[237CD9D0:01C0E590] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

By gosh young man, buy it (after you tried it...) I was gonna get one of these, but I opted to get Sonic Foundry Acid 3.0 (ok, it was $99.00, but my sampling needs are a little bit different).

I do have the SP-202, and it is just dandy with me. I do like the sequencing function on the SP-303, and the extended effects, but $299.99 is a bit out of my league (well, until I start back to work). Yea, get that Smart card (it can use up to 64 megs, which is really sweet !).

----Original Message Follows----
From: Mark Sottilaro
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: sample looper boss Dr. Sample SP-303 (?)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 13:37:23 -0700
Hey loopkids,
Gotta 3 day weekend ahead of me and a $100 dollar gift certificate at
the Guitar Center (as if they sell much under a $100....)
and I was wondering about the Boss Dr. Sample SP-303. I really like the
idea of being able to sample anywhere using it's battery feature. (Pat
Mastelotto uses it a LOT on the ProjecKt X cd... a great cd imho) Have
any of you used it? Is it worth the $300? Are there better? Should I
save my cash and get something more real? My main purpose is to sample
bits of media (movies, tv, self help tapes, ect...) and bring it into
the mix.
Mark

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat May 26 11:44:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09670; Sat, 26 May 2001 11:42:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 11:42:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <104.3f07a17.2841288c@aol.com> Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 11:41:00 EDT Subject: daugther and friend in europe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_104.3f07a17.2841288c_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_104.3f07a17.2841288c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit katy has an e-mail address so if you have any ideas for her, please let her know, chienie@hotmail.com .....thanks for your indulgence.....this will be may last post on this topic, sorry to be so off topic but you all are my only international buddies.....michael --part1_104.3f07a17.2841288c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit katy has an e-mail address so if you have any ideas for her, please let her
know,
chienie@hotmail.com .....thanks for your indulgence.....this will be may last
post on this topic, sorry to be so off topic but you all are my only
international buddies.....michael
--part1_104.3f07a17.2841288c_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 27 09:11:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA21738; Sun, 27 May 2001 09:07:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 09:07:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 09:08:11 -0400 Subject: Re: More EDP questions for Andy From: Steve Sandberg To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200105240225.WAA20630@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3073799291_2046091_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3073799291_2046091_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Andy -- Thanks so much for all your replies to my EDP questions. I really appreciate them -- especially because I really like the EDP and in a short time it's become an essential part of what I'm doing musically. I haven't had a chance to have someone come and reseat the chips yet -- I'll do it when this weekend is over. Meanwhile, the EDP did one thing it's not done yet -- I had a loop recorded and the EDP was in mute mode. After a few minutes, it went out of mute mode by itself, played the loop for a bit, then stopped. when I looked at the front panel, it was back in that "LOOP 3" eternal cycle display. Could this be an indication of something else wrong with it than just loose memory chips? And should I perhaps send it into Gibson or wherever I send it for factory repairs? (I'd rather not, since I'm working with it every day). My other question is , all this is making me nervous. I'm going to be doing quite a bit of performing with it and was wondering if there is anything I can do to make it more stable -- another way of securing the chips, perhaps? I'm actually considering getting a boomerang or line 6 for backup, though I'd rather not. Any suggestions? thanks again for your quick replies to my questions -- Best, Steve --MS_Mac_OE_3073799291_2046091_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: More EDP questions for Andy Andy --
Thanks so much for all your replies to my EDP questions.  I really
appreciate them -- especially because I really like the EDP and in a short<= BR> time it's become an essential part of what I'm doing musically.
I haven't had a chance to have someone come and reseat the chips yet -- I'l= l
do it when this weekend is over.  Meanwhile, the EDP did one thing it'= s not
done yet -- I had a loop recorded and the EDP was in mute mode.  After= a few
minutes, it went out of mute mode by itself, played the loop for a bit, the= n
stopped.  when I looked at the front panel, it was back in that "= LOOP 3"
eternal cycle display.
Could this be an indication of something else wrong with it than just loose=
memory chips?  And should I perhaps send it into Gibson or wherever I = send
it for factory repairs? (I'd rather not, since I'm working with it every day).
My other question is , all this is
making me nervous.  I'm going to be doing quite a bit of performing wi= th it
and was wondering if there is anything I can do to make it more stable -- another way of securing the chips, perhaps?  I'm actually considering<= BR> getting a boomerang or line 6 for backup, though I'd rather not.  Any = suggestions?
thanks again for your quick replies to my questions --
Best, Steve


 --MS_Mac_OE_3073799291_2046091_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 27 11:03:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA26445; Sun, 27 May 2001 11:01:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 11:01:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "J. Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: More EDP questions for Andy Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 08:00:01 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C0E683.0827BC60" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C0E683.0827BC60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: More EDP questions for AndyGet a Repeater instead. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Sandberg [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday 27 May 2001 6:08 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More EDP questions for Andy another way of securing the chips, perhaps? I'm actually considering getting a boomerang or line 6 for backup, though I'd rather not. Any = suggestions? ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C0E683.0827BC60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: More EDP questions for Andy
Get a=20 Repeater instead.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Sandberg=20 [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net]
Sent: Sunday 27 May = 2001 6:08=20 AM
To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re:=20 More EDP questions for Andy

another = way of=20 securing the chips, perhaps?  I'm actually considering
getting = a=20 boomerang or line 6 for backup, though I'd rather not.  Any=20 suggestions? ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C0E683.0827BC60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 27 11:29:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27213; Sun, 27 May 2001 11:27:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 11:27:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <009501c0e6c1$b3a9cc20$412df7c2@zetnet.co.uk> From: "Steve Lawson" To: References: <153MCy-1e1Q12C@fwd06.sul.t-online.com> Subject: Re: Loopers-Network Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 16:27:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <0fQ2iD.A.CpG.qyRE7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > If not already realized(then please forget this tiny,stupid question),then > it could be another > fine thing,to make a catalogue for venues,wich are "well suited" for looping > artists of all kinds. > Maybe on festivals or "looping only" events. This is a great idea, though the only problem (and I guess it's to your credit that you are this optomistic), is that to loop or not to loop is not often the question, it's whether or not you're any good... I've been booked into quite a few venues that have never had loopers before because they like what I do, and bypassed by some other loop-friendly venues who obviously don't like what I do... this 'ere wonderful looping community contains such a diffuse rabble of experimental music makers, from full on noise-merchants to nice melodic jazzy people, ambient soundscapists to Rick Walker and his day-glo plastic mastery... What is great, and is already on the site, is the directory of loopers - which means you can hopefully find music by most of the guys on list - and also the range of contacts that are made on list anyway. Via this list, I've managed to get gigs in Northern California, and Stephen Goodman was able to play at a festival here in London after coming to see me play at a venue and getting the details about upcoming events at the time... the networking is happening... :o) I'm not trying to dampen any enthusiasm, and anyone who knows of venues that would be up for booking a solo bass looper, do let me know! But do be aware that just cos the Knitting Factory loves Stig or DT, they might not get off on Joe Schmoe and his DL4-belching-and-farting show :o) maybe I'm just stating the obvious and sounding like a kill joy - I hope not, that's wasn't my intention... :o) Steve web-site - www.steve-lawson.co.uk e-mail - steve@steve-lawson.co.uk mailing list - steve-lawson-subscribe@listbot.com (send a blank e-mail to this address) "Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight, You've got to kick at the darkness till it bleeds daylight" - Bruce Cockburn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 27 12:05:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA29145; Sun, 27 May 2001 12:03:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 12:03:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005101c0e6c6$53fd5bc0$4eb51597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: , References: Subject: Re: More EDP questions for Andy Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 18:01:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004E_01C0E6D7.161E1040" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Messaggio in formato MIME composto da più parti. ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C0E6D7.161E1040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: More EDP questions for AndyThe most clever solution....I agree ! ! ! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: J. Miranda V.=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 5:00 PM Subject: RE: More EDP questions for Andy Get a Repeater instead. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Sandberg [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday 27 May 2001 6:08 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More EDP questions for Andy another way of securing the chips, perhaps? I'm actually = considering getting a boomerang or line 6 for backup, though I'd rather not. = Any suggestions? ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C0E6D7.161E1040 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: More EDP questions for Andy
The most clever solution....I agree ! ! = !
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 J.=20 Miranda V.
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 5:00 = PM
Subject: RE: More EDP questions = for=20 Andy

Get=20 a Repeater instead.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Sandberg=20 [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net]
Sent: Sunday 27 May = 2001 6:08=20 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com
Subject:=20 Re: More EDP questions for Andy

another way=20 of securing the chips, perhaps?  I'm actually = considering
getting a=20 boomerang or line 6 for backup, though I'd rather not.  Any=20 suggestions?
------=_NextPart_000_004E_01C0E6D7.161E1040-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 27 16:07:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05659; Sun, 27 May 2001 16:05:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 16:05:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: wavecomputer360@gmx.de Message-ID: <005101c0e6e7$d583ea80$7178fd91@StephenParsick> To: Subject: Boss Loop Sampler RC 20? Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 21:16:58 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0037_01C0E6F2.5D3B10C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C0E6F2.5D3B10C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi folks, although not really new to this list this is my first official post 8). = Does anybody have any hands-on experience with the Boss RC 20 (or = whatever it is called like)? Seems to be an interesting alternative to = an EDP or a Repeater, primarily because of its price. Is it as easy an = intuitively to handle as a Jam Man? Or is it just a tool that -- in its = application -- is more or less aimed at DJs and that kinda stuff? Can I = make use of the whole loop time available, or do I have to chop up these = 5.30 minutes into smaller bits? Anyway, any recommendation for or against it is welcome. I=B4m fed up = with waiting for an affordable Echoplex, let alone a Repeater. TIA, Stephen. PS: If anybody cares to know what kind of music I=B4m busy with, check = www.nodular.de Thanks for looking. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C0E6F2.5D3B10C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi folks,
 
although not really new to this list = this is my=20 first official post 8). Does anybody have any hands-on experience with = the Boss=20 RC 20 (or whatever it is called like)? Seems to be an interesting = alternative to=20 an EDP or a Repeater, primarily because of its price. Is it as easy an=20 intuitively to handle as a Jam Man? Or is it just a tool that -- in its=20 application -- is more or less aimed at DJs and that kinda stuff? Can I = make use=20 of the whole loop time available, or do I have to chop up these 5.30 = minutes=20 into smaller bits?
 
Anyway, any recommendation for or = against it is=20 welcome. I=B4m fed up with waiting for an affordable Echoplex, let alone = a=20 Repeater. TIA,
 
Stephen.
 
PS: If anybody cares to know what kind = of music I=B4m=20 busy with, check www.nodular.de
Thanks for = looking.
------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C0E6F2.5D3B10C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 27 16:57:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06828; Sun, 27 May 2001 16:56:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 16:56:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001801c0e6ef$e8f02b80$0bbca618@kc.rr.com> From: "John Yoakum" To: Subject: tape Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 15:59:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0E6C6.0001B980" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0E6C6.0001B980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looking for tape cartridge univox EC80-A Tc-1 Can anybody help? me thank you. =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0E6C6.0001B980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Looking for tape cartridge univox EC80-A=20 Tc-1
Can anybody help? =20 me thank you.   
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0E6C6.0001B980-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 27 18:02:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA10196; Sun, 27 May 2001 18:00:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 18:00:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <005101c0e6e7$d583ea80$7178fd91@StephenParsick> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 14:59:38 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: Boss Loop Sampler RC 20? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id RAA10169 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'm still looking for an LD'er to give the RC-20 a good review, but in the mean time I have put up a section at the web site about it: http://www.loopers-delight.com/tools/RC20/boss-rc20.html That will at least lead you to past discussion about the RC-20 on this list and some other places, and any other info I could dig up. It seems to me the Boss RC-20 is more in competition with the line6 DL-4 and the Boomerang, not the repeater or EDP. It certainly isn't intended for DJ's, since it is a footpedal. Whether that makes it good for guitarists/bassists/etc vs. the competition I can't say, cause I'm still waiting for somebody to do that review! kim At 12:16 PM -0700 5/27/01, wavecomputer360@gmx.de wrote: > Hi folks, although not really new to this list this is my first >official post 8). Does anybody have any hands-on experience with the Boss >RC 20 (or whatever it is called like)? Seems to be an interesting >alternative to an EDP or a Repeater, primarily because of its price. Is >it as easy an intuitively to handle as a Jam Man? Or is it just a tool >that -- in its application -- is more or less aimed at DJs and that kinda >stuff? Can I make use of the whole loop time available, or do I have to >chop up these 5.30 minutes into smaller bits? Anyway, any >recommendation for or against it is welcome. I´m fed up with waiting for >an affordable Echoplex, let alone a Repeater. TIA, Stephen. PS: If >anybody cares to know what kind of music I´m busy with, check >www.nodular.de Thanks for looking. ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 27 18:15:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA10507; Sun, 27 May 2001 18:13:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 18:13:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <200105240225.WAA20630@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 15:12:47 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: More EDP questions for Andy Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 6:08 AM -0700 5/27/01, Steve Sandberg wrote: > I haven't had a chance to have someone come and reseat the chips yet -- I'll > do it when this weekend is over. Meanwhile, the EDP did one thing it's not > done yet -- I had a loop recorded and the EDP was in mute mode. After a few > minutes, it went out of mute mode by itself, played the loop for a bit, then > stopped. when I looked at the front panel, it was back in that "LOOP 3" > eternal cycle display. > Could this be an indication of something else wrong with it than just loose > memory chips? that is almost certainly the exact same problem. That's what it does when there is a problem with the memory contacts. Get it fixed, and you shouldn't have to worry about it anymore. kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 27 18:26:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA10820; Sun, 27 May 2001 18:25:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 18:25:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 15:24:44 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: RE: More EDP questions for Andy Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I would think the repeater would be prone to the exact same sort of problem, at least with the flash card connector and any jacks at the back. dirty and loose contacts happen. It can be pots, switches, rear panel jacks, internal cable connectors, socketed IC's, memory module connectors, etc. They can all develop the same problem. if you are moving any electronic gear around, taking it to smokey clubs, through different temperatures, different humidities, etc., you will eventually experience this. Learning to do basic electronics maintenance is a good idea. kim > Get a Repeater instead. > > -----Original Message----- >From: Steve Sandberg [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net] >Sent: Sunday 27 May 2001 6:08 AM >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: More EDP questions for Andy > >another way of securing the chips, perhaps? I'm actually considering >getting a boomerang or line 6 for backup, though I'd rather not. Any >suggestions? ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 27 18:49:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA11434; Sun, 27 May 2001 18:48:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 18:48:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B11847E.DFD3B0E5@club-internet.fr> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 00:49:34 +0200 From: Emmanuel PERILLE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Cycloops review Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com http://www.werk.fm/OPINION/reviewbin/cycloops.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun May 27 23:40:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA22425; Sun, 27 May 2001 23:38:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 23:38:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B11C7CA.C46FEEC0@tapehissrecordings.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 23:36:42 -0400 From: Scott Carr Organization: Tapehiss Recordings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-CCK-MCD BA45DSL (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: New e-mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <39Wn6B.A.CeF.AgcE7@hemlock.violacea.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello all, In case I haven't gotten a chance to send an e-mail to you individually - scott@tapehissrecordings.com is my new e-mail address. Hope you're having a good weekend + a great holiday if it is one where you are. Scott -- ~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% Visit the the home of Hebephrenic, The Hot Buttered Elves, & Sunshine http://www.tapehissrecordings.com and our sites at the worlds largest online cut-out bin http://mp3.com/hotbutteredelves http://mp3.com/hebephrenica http://mp3.com/sunshineallthetime ~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 28 01:07:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA26407; Mon, 28 May 2001 01:05:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 01:05:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "omjn" To: "Loopers-Delight" Subject: fx loop expander Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 13:04:34 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi I remember someone saying something a while ago about an fx loop expander in a thread about speaker selectors. I stumbled across this and thought it might be of interest. never heard of the company, but they also make midi foot controllers and a bunch of other miscellaneous stuff. http://www.nobels.com/english.htm cheers omjn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 28 05:55:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA02837; Mon, 28 May 2001 05:53:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 05:53:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00b201c1174b$e844e5e0$5441f93f@looppool> From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: References: <200105271503.LAA26547@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: LOOPERS NETWORK and a renewed LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO ARMS!!! Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 02:58:50 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com To Everyone at Loopers Delight, The idea of a Loopers Network is a great idea. This is what we've been trying to do, to the best of our ability in Northern California area, by first creating a series of Regional Looping Festivals. I've produced 5 now in Santa Cruz (including the world's first solo bass looping festival), 2 in Big Sur and instigated and participated in one in Mountain View (thanks Robert Edgar and Jon Wagner). My thinking has been to create some high profile (to the media, at least) specific looping events to create the conciousness in the musical community of the emergence and legitmacy of live looping as a viable new artform. We are, currently, a fairly long way away from producing shows that will generate much income for this emergent form. Indeed, in Santa Cruz, I have convinced local venues to put shows on for free, just so that we can spread the word and actually have performances so that our live shows can mature and evolve (rather difficult in the gentrified dot.com madness of raised rents and disappearing live music venues here in the bay area(s). Most people still don't know what looping is, so I think a little bit of aggressive Looping Evangelism is in order before we can create a successful Loopers Network. Even when we can get people to our shows (it's gone form 25 people to 200 people at the most) a lot of people frequently think that I am just triggering prerecorded samples at some of my shows. Inspired by Jon Wagner at the 1st Mountain View Looping Festival, I have started to include a formal looping instructional presentation in each of my shows (outside of Santa Cruz, where looping is an already established phenomena) just to help educate people about what is going on. I thought this kind of 'educational' approach would put audiences off, but I have found, especially if you can involve them in the process (try getting them to hiss rhythmically and loop it), that people actually really dig it. Santa Cruz should remain on anyone's map from outside of the Northern California region for looping touring. The Worlds' First Solo Bass Looping Festival had it's genesis in Steve Lawson's approaching me for a simple gig on his tour from England. I will always do my best to try to put on some kind of a show for someone travelling through the area (and pair you with a good S.C. looper to help increase the 'draw' of the show. There are even looping artists in town (I think, specifically, of Papa Dave, who have mentioned the possibility of house concerts). There is going to be very little money or no money at all in such a venture, so anyone wanting to take me up on this offer will need realize this from the get go. Anyone interested can send me a CD of their material to start the ball rolling: 412 Darwin Street Santa Cruz, California 95062-26292 In the meantime, I think we should all think seriously about gathering three loopers (including from outlying areas) and putting on our own Regional Looping Festivals. Convincing a local progressive coffee shop or bookstore or small club that you could bring in 25-50 patrons on one of thier off nights by throwing a 'FREE TO THE PUBLIC' looping festival is, generally, speaking , not too difficult. You then, have the ability to go sell the idea to the local print and radio media (don't forget appropriate pirate radio stations and internet radio stations). I have frequently been able to actually go on the air and perform a little, as a way of promoting an upcoming show. All media loves the idea of something new.........and it generally really piques their interest when they find out the the musicians are 'tithing' their performances to the community. The worst thing that can happen is that the world gets closer to knowing about what we have all discovered, here on Loopers Delight Please consider me a resource if anyone needs advice or encouragement about producing their own show. Yours, in the love of looping and 'putting it out there', Rick Walker (aka, loop.pool) P.S. How are plans coming for upcoming Looping Festivals in Wales, London (Steve Lawson and Stephen Goodman, you only need one more looper for your first festival ;-), Dallas , Austin, Portland and Seattle (all places that have loopers who have considered such madness. If these places all happen (and I'm trying my damndest to add San Francisco, Berekely, Marin County, Santa Clara, San Jose, Tehapchipi, Bakersfield and San Luis Obispo to the list) in the next six months, that would create a lot of attention POR LA CAUSA, TOUT LE MONDE, NICHT WAHR? And, speaking of that devil, welcome German Loopers!!!! Glad to hear you representing, in the house!!! I'd love to hear your music. An exchange, perhaps? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 28 09:52:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA10725; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:49:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:49:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001201c0e77c$fccc9200$8dad5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #218 Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:48:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. Show #218 May 24, 2001. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on the Jodrell Bank Concert series in the UK. The feature CD at midnight was the disc by Paul Nagle from the Neu Harmony six CDR set, Concerts at Jodrell Bank. Jodrell Bank Concerts http://wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/2001/focus01.html#may PLAYLIST: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:04 pm Cyber Zen Sound Engine Beholed the Spirit CDR from CZSE (none) J. Arif Verner An Infinite Moment Through the Timeless (Spotted Peccary) Tranquillity Overtones Core (Invisible Shadows) Ian Boddy, Markus Triptych: First Image Triptych (DiN) Reuter & Nigel Mullaney Mother Mallard's Oleo Strut Like a Duck to Water (Cuneiform) Portable Masterpiece Co. Larry Gaab Peripheral Visions Peripheral Visions (Morphosis Music) Matthew J. Harris Ursa Major Blind Cinema (none) Jeff Pearce A Farther Shore The Light Beyond (Hypnos) 12:00 am Paul Nagle Careful with the Bass Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) Eugene Paul Nagle Twee Hugger Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) Paul Nagle MFPE Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) Paul Nagle Rehash in Am Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) Paul Nagle Dark Bastard Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) Paul Nagle Gloom and a Prayer Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) Paul Nagle Melloman Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) Paul Nagle Lurking Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) Paul Nagle Where did the Polymorph go? * Concerts at Jodrel Bank (Neu Harmony) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) NEXT SHOW: On the next EMUSIC, I'll conclude the month-long focus on the Jodrell Bank concerts in the UK as typified by the six CDR release from Neu Harmony. The feature CD at midnight will be the disc by Under the Dome. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 28 09:58:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA10985; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:56:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:56:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 14:54:24 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: RE: so cal gig spam In-reply-to: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB297@migarexch01.maritz.com> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB297@migarexch01.maritz.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 5:43 PM -0400 5/24/01, Liebig, Steuart A. wrote: >yeah. a friend told me about the partch deal - - i'm, "hey i can't >go,i'm playing" . . . There are some daytime events, starting at 10 AM. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 28 12:43:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA18302; Mon, 28 May 2001 12:40:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:40:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:35:51 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO ARMS!!! In-reply-to: <00b201c1174b$e844e5e0$5441f93f@looppool> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1221054429==_ma============" References: <200105271503.LAA26547@hemlock.violacea.com> <00b201c1174b$e844e5e0$5441f93f@looppool> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1221054429==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" At 2:58 AM -0700 7/28/01, Rick Walker (loop.pool) wrote: >My thinking has been to create some high profile (to the media, at >least) specific looping events to create the conciousness in the >musical community of the emergence and legitmacy of live looping as >a viable new artform...I think we should all think seriously about >gathering three loopers (including from outlying areas) and putting >on our own Regional Looping Festivals. Yesterday was the first anniversary party for the Los Angeles chapter of American Composers Forum. One topic of discussion was how to involve exponents of Electronica, DJ, Looping, etc. We're interested in collaborating with presenters in Los Angeles area, and we're hoping to put together a festival sometime in the coming years. Our organization is well-established on a national level, with a number of programs, our own CD label, etc. Check out our Web site: http://www.composers.la/ Also the main ACF site: http://www.composersforum.org/ -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz --============_-1221054429==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO ARMS!!!
At 2:58 AM -0700 7/28/01, Rick Walker (loop.pool) wrote:

My thinking has been to create some high profile (to the media, at least) specific looping events to create the conciousness in the musical community of the emergence and legitmacy of live looping as a viable new artform...I think we should all think seriously about gathering three loopers (including from outlying areas) and putting on our own Regional Looping Festivals.

Yesterday was the first anniversary party for the Los Angeles chapter of American Composers Forum. One topic of discussion was how to involve exponents of Electronica, DJ, Looping, etc. We're interested in collaborating with presenters in Los Angeles area, and we're hoping to put together a festival sometime in the coming years. Our organization is well-established on a national level, with a number of programs, our own CD label, etc.

Check out our Web site:

http://www.composers.la/

Also the main ACF site:

http://www.composersforum.org/
--

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--============_-1221054429==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 28 13:09:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA19952; Mon, 28 May 2001 13:07:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 13:07:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [208.61.66.176] From: "Haresh Bakshi" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO ARMS!!! Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 17:06:07 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 May 2001 17:06:07.0836 (UTC) FILETIME=[7CA139C0:01C0E798] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Richard, creating consciousness about live looping is a very pragmatic proposal. Indian music has/can have much looping, when used judiciously. Such Indian loops can be eminently suitable for jamming and World music, too. My problem is: Which software will especially suit looping in Indian music? [Tanpura, tabla, fast, repetitive Sitar passages etc.] Regards, Haresh. -------- Richard Zvonar wrote: ----------------------------------- >From: Richard Zvonar >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO ARMS!!! >Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:35:51 -0700 > >At 2:58 AM -0700 7/28/01, Rick Walker (loop.pool) wrote: > >>My thinking has been to create some high profile (to the media, at >>least) specific looping events to create the conciousness in the >>musical community of the emergence and legitmacy of live looping as >>a viable new artform...I think we should all think seriously about >>gathering three loopers (including from outlying areas) and putting >>on our own Regional Looping Festivals. > >Yesterday was the first anniversary party for the Los Angeles chapter >of American Composers Forum. One topic of discussion was how to >involve exponents of Electronica, DJ, Looping, etc. We're interested >in collaborating with presenters in Los Angeles area, and we're >hoping to put together a festival sometime in the coming years. Our >organization is well-established on a national level, with a number >of programs, our own CD label, etc. > >Check out our Web site: > >http://www.composers.la/ > >Also the main ACF site: > >http://www.composersforum.org/ >-- > >______________________________________________________________ >Richard Zvonar, PhD >(818) 788-2202 >http://www.zvonar.com >http://RZCybernetics.com >http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone >http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 28 15:18:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA24959; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:16:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:16:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002d01c0e7aa$97741e40$bb83abd4@LucaFormentini> From: "luca" To: References: <200105271503.LAA26547@hemlock.violacea.com><00b201c1174b$e844e5e0$5441f93f@looppool> Subject: R: LOOPING FESTIVAL - EUROPE Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:14:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01C0E7BB.3F74E560" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C0E7BB.3F74E560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO ARMS!!!Hi everybody, this topic is an important one by my point of view. i think one of the things we are missing beside the wonderful = brainstorms we have in this deep and powerful list is the chance to meet = each other and, more important, to "pollute" each other. we can listen to each others' sounds on cds or audio files, but to see = people perform live is another thing. for me as european is sometimes sad to see how many things are happening = in Us (well, i'm very happy for you who are in Us, but in those moments = i feel the distance as a heavy thing) a few months ago some guys organized an event in switzerland, i hadn't = the chance to go there, but i know it has been an interesting = experience. i agree with rick when he says that looping (that means a different and = open approach to music) is a sort of new "musical movement" we should do = our best to introduce to people. last year i did a "census" on LD between european residents (that is = available for everyone would ask for it), so now i have an interesting = collection of names from the whole europe. now, what to do ? unfortunately i don't have the chance to go further from there; in my = area there is a poor situation regarding live music that is not played = by very famous people of the so called mainstream or groups playing = covers (again, of the so called ....). i am organizing a small gtr festival on garda lake, this year it will be = its 2nd edition. each year there will be 6 different gtr players. i am trying to make the public more and more familiar with a certain way = of thinking and playing music balancing innovative musicians with some = using more usual languages last year we were in three loopers, one baroque, a fingerpicker and a = blues player. this year we will have 2 loopers, Mr. Hans Reichel, Mr.Duck Baker, a = jazz player and Mr. Mike Cooper. with this year i am trying to obtain a certain reputation so to have the = chance to risk more with the next edition. i hope this will drive us to the chance of making a looper/creative = festival in the future. all the best=20 luca ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C0E7BB.3F74E560 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO ARMS!!!
Hi everybody,
this topic is an important one by my = point of=20 view.
i think one of the things we are = missing beside the=20 wonderful brainstorms we have in this deep and powerful list is the = chance to=20 meet each other and, more important, to "pollute" each = other.
we can listen to each others' sounds on = cds or=20 audio files, but to see people perform live is another = thing.
for me as european is sometimes sad to = see how many=20 things are happening in Us (well, i'm very happy for you who are in Us, = but in=20 those moments i feel the distance as a heavy thing)
a few months ago some guys organized an = event in=20 switzerland, i hadn't the chance to go there, but i know it has been an=20 interesting experience.
i agree with rick when he says that = looping (that=20 means a different and open approach to music) is a sort of new "musical=20 movement" we should do our best to introduce to people.
last year i did a "census" on LD = between european=20 residents (that is available for everyone would ask for it), so now = i have=20 an interesting collection of names from the whole europe.
now, what to do ?
unfortunately i don't have the chance = to go further=20 from there; in my area there is a poor situation regarding live music = that is=20 not played by very famous people of the so called mainstream or groups = playing=20 covers (again, of the so called ....).
i am organizing a small gtr festival on = garda lake,=20 this year it will be its 2nd edition.
each year there will be 6 different gtr = players.
i am trying to make = the public more=20 and more familiar with a certain way of thinking and playing music = balancing=20 innovative musicians with some using more usual languages
last year we were in three loopers, one = baroque, a=20 fingerpicker and a blues player.
this year we will have 2 loopers, Mr. = Hans Reichel,=20 Mr.Duck Baker, a jazz player and Mr. Mike Cooper.
with this year i am trying to = obtain a certain=20 reputation so to have the chance to risk more with the next=20 edition.
 
i hope this will drive us to the chance = of making a=20 looper/creative festival in the future.
 
all the best
luca
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C0E7BB.3F74E560-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 28 16:19:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA27305; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:17:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 16:17:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B12B312.F0FBB765@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 13:20:54 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: R: LOOPING FESTIVAL - EUROPE References: <200105271503.LAA26547@hemlock.violacea.com><00b201c1174b$e844e5e0$5441f93f@looppool> <002d01c0e7aa$97741e40$bb83abd4@LucaFormentini> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com luca wrote: > Hi everybody,this topic is an important one by my point of view.i > think one of the things we are missing beside the wonderful > brainstorms we have in this deep and powerful list is the chance to > meet each other and, more important, to "pollute" each other.we can > listen to each others' sounds on cds or audio files, but to see people > perform live is another thing.for me as european is sometimes sad to > see how many things are happening in Us (well, i'm very happy for you > who are in Us, but in those moments i feel the distance as a heavy > thing)a few months ago some guys organized an event in switzerland, i > hadn't the chance to go there, but i know it has been an interesting > experience.i agree with rick when he says that looping (that means a > different and open approach to music) is a sort of new "musical > movement" we should do our best to introduce to people.last year i did > a "census" on LD between european residents (that is available for > everyone would ask for it), so now i have an interesting collection of > names from the whole europe.now, what to do ?unfortunately i don't > have the chance to go further from there; in my area there is a poor > situation regarding live music that is not played by very famous > people of the so called mainstream or groups playing covers (again, of > the so called ....).i am organizing a small gtr festival on garda > lake, this year it will be its 2nd edition.each year there will be 6 > different gtr players.i am trying to make the public more and more > familiar with a certain way of thinking and playing music balancing > innovative musicians with some using more usual languageslast year we > were in three loopers, one baroque, a fingerpicker and a blues > player.this year we will have 2 loopers, Mr. Hans Reichel, Mr.Duck > Baker, a jazz player and Mr. Mike Cooper.with this year i am trying to > obtain a certain reputation so to have the chance to risk more with > the next edition. i hope this will drive us to the chance of making a > looper/creative festival in the future. all the bestluca wow, luca! hans reichel and duck baker on the same bill. now i'm beginning to feel bummed for being in the states! actually, your points are very well taken. it seems it takes a certain critical mass to get an audience to investigate beyond more mainstream live events. one of the factors must be economics. free (or cheap) shows and the like seem to be a good strategy in this regard. also more unusual venues that might bring a different audience in seem to make sense. my brother was just visiting from norway and he had very much the same thing to say- he's the leader of a gamelan orchestra in oslo, and it has been very difficult to keep the momentum going, even after years and years of effort. apparently there is a broad interest in musics outside the mainstream there, but not quite enough to motivate people to leave their comfy homes and get out to see it. much easier to buy a cd online or download an mp3...but i think the seductive power of live music can get ahold of people and shake them from their inertia. i think you're on the right track. keep it up! best, lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 28 17:59:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA30368; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:57:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 17:57:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002201c0e7c1$0fbe2d80$455797d4@elias> From: "Elias Faingersh" To: Subject: SV: LOOPING FESTIVAL - EUROPE Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 23:56:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001F_01C0E7D1.D252D980" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C0E7D1.D252D980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds great! I'm europien myself and do mostly live shows, some 70-80 per year. It works good, I mean looping and public relationship. It depends on how you "take" the crowd. How you build the program and stuff like that. For me it works pretty good in Europe and Japan. I'm going to play in NY in a week......let see how it will work there.......nerves.. We Europian loopers better stick together! Elias -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr=E5n: luca Till: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com = Datum: den 28 maj 2001 21:17 =C4mne: R: LOOPING FESTIVAL - EUROPE =20 =20 Hi everybody, this topic is an important one by my point of view. i think one of the things we are missing beside the wonderful = brainstorms we have in this deep and powerful list is the chance to meet = each other and, more important, to "pollute" each other. we can listen to each others' sounds on cds or audio files, but to = see people perform live is another thing. for me as european is sometimes sad to see how many things are = happening in Us (well, i'm very happy for you who are in Us, but in = those moments i feel the distance as a heavy thing) a few months ago some guys organized an event in switzerland, i = hadn't the chance to go there, but i know it has been an interesting = experience. i agree with rick when he says that looping (that means a different = and open approach to music) is a sort of new "musical movement" we = should do our best to introduce to people. last year i did a "census" on LD between european residents (that is = available for everyone would ask for it), so now i have an interesting = collection of names from the whole europe. now, what to do ? unfortunately i don't have the chance to go further from there; in = my area there is a poor situation regarding live music that is not = played by very famous people of the so called mainstream or groups = playing covers (again, of the so called ....). i am organizing a small gtr festival on garda lake, this year it = will be its 2nd edition. each year there will be 6 different gtr players. i am trying to make the public more and more familiar with a certain = way of thinking and playing music balancing innovative musicians with = some using more usual languages last year we were in three loopers, one baroque, a fingerpicker and = a blues player. this year we will have 2 loopers, Mr. Hans Reichel, Mr.Duck Baker, a = jazz player and Mr. Mike Cooper. with this year i am trying to obtain a certain reputation so to have = the chance to risk more with the next edition. =20 i hope this will drive us to the chance of making a looper/creative = festival in the future. =20 all the best=20 luca =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C0E7D1.D252D980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO = ARMS!!!
Sounds great!
I'm europien myself and do mostly live shows, some = 70-80 per=20 year.
It works good, I mean looping and public=20 relationship.
It depends on how you "take" the = crowd.
How you build the program and stuff like = that.
For me it works pretty good in Europe and = Japan.
 
I'm going to play in NY in a week......let see how=20 it
will work there.......nerves..
 
We Europian loopers better stick = together!
 
Elias
 
-----Ursprungligt=20 meddelande-----
Fr=E5n: luca <lucafeed@tin.it>
Till: = Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20 <Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com>
Datum:=20 den 28 maj 2001 21:17
=C4mne: R: LOOPING FESTIVAL -=20 EUROPE

Hi everybody,
this topic is an important one by = my point of=20 view.
i think one of the things we are = missing beside=20 the wonderful brainstorms we have in this deep and powerful list is = the=20 chance to meet each other and, more important, to = "pollute" each=20 other.
we can listen to each others' = sounds on cds or=20 audio files, but to see people perform live is another = thing.
for me as european is sometimes sad = to see how=20 many things are happening in Us (well, i'm very happy for you who = are in Us,=20 but in those moments i feel the distance as a heavy = thing)
a few months ago some guys = organized an event=20 in switzerland, i hadn't the chance to go there, but i know it has = been an=20 interesting experience.
i agree with rick when he says that = looping=20 (that means a different and open approach to music) is a sort of new = "musical movement" we should do our best to introduce to=20 people.
last year i did a = "census" on LD=20 between european residents (that is available for everyone would ask = for=20 it), so now i have an interesting collection of names from the = whole=20 europe.
now, what to do ?
unfortunately i don't have the = chance to go=20 further from there; in my area there is a poor situation regarding = live=20 music that is not played by very famous people of the so called = mainstream=20 or groups playing covers (again, of the so called = ....).
i am organizing a small gtr = festival on garda=20 lake, this year it will be its 2nd edition.
each year there will be 6 different = gtr=20 players.
i am trying to make = the public=20 more and more familiar with a certain way of thinking and playing = music=20 balancing innovative musicians with some using more usual=20 languages
last year we were in three loopers, = one=20 baroque, a fingerpicker and a blues player.
this year we will have 2 loopers, = Mr. Hans=20 Reichel, Mr.Duck Baker, a jazz player and Mr. Mike = Cooper.
with this year i am trying to = obtain a=20 certain reputation so to have the chance to risk more with the = next=20 edition.
 
i hope this will drive us to the = chance of=20 making a looper/creative festival in the future.
 
all the best
luca
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_001F_01C0E7D1.D252D980-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 28 18:54:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA32691; Mon, 28 May 2001 18:52:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 18:52:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001801c0e7c8$c69e1c20$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <200105271503.LAA26547@hemlock.violacea.com><00b201c1174b$e844e5e0$5441f93f@looppool> <002d01c0e7aa$97741e40$bb83abd4@LucaFormentini> Subject: Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL - EUROPE Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 23:51:44 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0E7D1.2630FE20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0E7D1.2630FE20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO ARMS!!!Believe me Luca, if I had the money, = you could count on me. However, if you'd like some artwork done for a poster/flyer, let me = know! Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! http://www.live365.com/stations/218194 * EarthLight Online / Live! ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0E7D1.2630FE20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO ARMS!!!
Believe me Luca, if I had the money, you = could count on=20 me.
 
However, if you'd like some artwork done for = a=20 poster/flyer, let me know!
 
Stephen Goodman
http://www.earthlig= ht.net/Gallery_Front.html=20 - Cartoons & Illustrations
http://www.earthlight.net/Stud= ios *=20 The free Loop of the Week!
http://www.live365.com/st= ations/218194=20 * EarthLight Online / Live!
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0E7D1.2630FE20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 28 19:17:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA02012; Mon, 28 May 2001 19:15:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 19:15:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002601c0e7cb$2b3bf1a0$8b0d153f@oemcomputer> From: "become_1" To: References: <200105271503.LAA26547@hemlock.violacea.com><00b201c1174b$e844e5e0$5441f93f@looppool> <002d01c0e7aa$97741e40$bb83abd4@LucaFormentini> Subject: Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL - EUROPE Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 19:08:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0023_01C0E7A9.A3594600" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 May 2001 23:14:08.0031 (UTC) FILETIME=[E5739AF0:01C0E7CB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C0E7A9.A3594600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO ARMS!!!Ciao Luca, When's the festival? Maybe I'll be back by then ( if not, then next = year!) That's Mike Cooper who lives and plays around Rome? =20 Saluti, Bruce Comens ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C0E7A9.A3594600 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO ARMS!!!
Ciao Luca,
When's the festival?  Maybe I'll = be back by=20 then ( if not, then next year!)
That's Mike Cooper who lives and plays = around=20 Rome? 
Saluti,
Bruce Comens
------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C0E7A9.A3594600-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 28 19:34:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA02622; Mon, 28 May 2001 19:32:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 19:32:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008401c0e7ce$9b4d7d80$31666ec3@abu10784> From: "Massimo Liverani" To: References: <002201c0e7c1$0fbe2d80$455797d4@elias> Subject: THE SOUNDING LANDSCAPES Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 01:30:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006E_01C0E7DF.04260E20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C0E7DF.04260E20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO ARMS!!!I'd like to put your attention to = one of the first=20 looping & ambient music event in Florence (Italy): Produzioni Parallele & Modest but Honest productions are proud to = present: The writtenrock itinerary:=20 (Gli itinerari del Sassoscritto) The sounding landscapes (Paesaggi sonori) - Sat. 9 June: Music for 3 looped guitars.=20 With Massimo Liverani, Fabio Capanni, Massimo Fantoni. The place is: 'GAVIGNANO' near Florence.=20 For further informations ( In italian) , maps etc etc : WWW.MBH.IT Thanks for the attention! ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C0E7DF.04260E20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO ARMS!!!
I'd like to put your attention to one of the first
looping & ambient music event in Florence (Italy):
 
Produzioni Parallele &  Modest but = Honest=20 productions are proud to present:
 
            =    =20          The = writtenrock itinerary:=20
            =    =20         (Gli itinerari del = Sassoscritto)
 
         &n= bsp;           &nb= sp; =20 The sounding landscapes
            =    =20         =        =20 (Paesaggi sonori)
 
- Sat. 9 June: Music for 3 looped guitars. =
  With Massimo Liverani, Fabio Capanni, Massimo = Fantoni.
 
The place is: 'GAVIGNANO' near Florence.
 
For further informations ( In italian) , maps etc = etc : WWW.MBH.IT
 
          =             &= nbsp;=20 Thanks for the attention!
 
------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C0E7DF.04260E20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 28 20:11:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA04607; Mon, 28 May 2001 20:10:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 20:10:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "omjn" To: Subject: RE: LOOPING FESTIVAL - EUROPE Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 08:09:44 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0E816.B8A7C0A0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <002d01c0e7aa$97741e40$bb83abd4@LucaFormentini> Resent-Message-ID: <2xFKeC.A.zHB.rjuE7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0E816.B8A7C0A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO ARMS!!!for me as an australian, i can say I feel much of the very same thing. in empathy omjn for me as european is sometimes sad to see how many things are happening in Us (well, i'm very happy for you who are in Us, but in those moments i feel the distance as a heavy thing) ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0E816.B8A7C0A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO ARMS!!!
for me=20 as an australian, i can say I feel much of the very same=20 thing.
 
in=20 empathy
omjn
for me as european is sometimes = sad to see=20 how many things are happening in Us (well, i'm very happy for you who = are in=20 Us, but in those moments i feel the distance as a heavy=20 thing)   
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0E816.B8A7C0A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 28 20:36:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA05361; Mon, 28 May 2001 20:34:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 20:34:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 20:35:18 -0400 Subject: Elias Faingersh gig From: Steve Sandberg To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200105282317.TAA02123@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3073926918_929304_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3073926918_929304_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I'm going to play in NY in a week......let see how it will work there.......nerves.. Where are you playing? --MS_Mac_OE_3073926918_929304_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Elias Faingersh gig
I'm going to play in NY in a week......let see h= ow it
will work there.......nerves..

Where are you playing?
--MS_Mac_OE_3073926918_929304_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon May 28 23:44:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA12937; Mon, 28 May 2001 23:41:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 23:41:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00a101c0e7f1$3ca8bd80$c3aa5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: Subject: Re: Elias Faingersh gig Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 23:41:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <6EKqrC.A.9JD.EpxE7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com -----Original Message----- From: Steve Sandberg To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Monday, May 28, 2001 8:37 PM Subject: Elias Faingersh gig >I'm going to play in NY in a week......let see how it >will work there.......nerves.. > >Where are you playing? Steve beat me to the question. I'm in the Allentown area which is about 2.5 hours from NYC. Elias, what genre of music do you play? If your NYC gig is on the weekend, there is a (remote) possibility that I could be there. Any loopers in NYC willing to host an over night guest? Bill billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html ============================================================================ Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, send email to: emusic-wdiy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 29 00:06:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA14672; Tue, 29 May 2001 00:03:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 00:03:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20010528230151.0080fa80@mail.airmail.net> X-Sender: mcl451@mail.airmail.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 23:01:51 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Michael Clark Subject: Why Do People Send Posts In 6 Point (or less) Type? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <2zCLDD.A.GlD.W9xE7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, Just a weird thing here. Sorry. I really enjoy the group. Learn a lot. But, some sometimes (sometimes too may) posts are in something like 6 point type (the European Looping Thing - some of it). Too much of a hassle to try to read. Trash it. My problem I know. Though I would let everyone know. Thanks, M... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 29 00:39:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA15587; Tue, 29 May 2001 00:36:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 00:36:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 00:35:43 -0400 From: Floyd Miller Message-Id: <200105290435.AAA27739@portal.studiodust.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Why Do People Send Posts In 6 Point (or less) Type? Resent-Message-ID: <2K7EW.A.QzD.gcyE7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7301 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Michael Clark wrote: > > Just a weird thing here. Sorry. I really enjoy the group. Learn a lot. > But, some sometimes (sometimes too may) posts are in something like 6 point > type (the European Looping Thing - some of it). Too much of a hassle to try > to read. Trash it. > > My problem I know. > It's not just your problem. HTML email is a blight and scourge. And, IMHO, there's no use for it on mailing lists such as this. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 29 01:48:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA18148; Tue, 29 May 2001 01:45:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 01:45:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003601c0e802$34a9dd60$12886fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: <002201c0e7c1$0fbe2d80$455797d4@elias> <008401c0e7ce$9b4d7d80$31666ec3@abu10784> Subject: Re: Lloopp yn Gymru. Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 06:42:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO ARMS!!!Hi, I'm playing in Chapter Arts, Cardiff on Wednesday. Bezzarre geetarre, electric guitar, Djembe. Sort of tribal, ambient - the power and the glory for ever and ever and ever and ever..........(till I switch the loops off) Must try to record it. Gareth lidoffadaffodil From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 29 01:56:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA18448; Tue, 29 May 2001 01:54:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 01:54:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010529055328.41000.qmail@web10001.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 22:53:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Satinover Subject: re: Boss Loop Sampler RC 20? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Stephen, very nice samplings, hysteria and overtones were particular favorites. I co-host an internet radio show that I would like to use your material on with permission. If acceptible let me know where to find your music, CD or online. I had a chance to buy the RC 20 but no one at the Guitar Center I was at would let me audition it so I passed and purchased a Boomerang + . This is my first post to the list so I should introduce myself but I'll do so in another post. Bruce Satinover __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 29 02:35:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA20290; Tue, 29 May 2001 02:28:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 02:28:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010529062808.30506.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 23:28:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruce Satinover Subject: introduction To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello, my name is Bruce Satinover and this is my 2nd post here, I figured it might be a good time for introductions. I've been playing guitar for about 30 years and have finally taken up looping on the fly. I've created loop based recordings for several years. My background is way to long to discuss so I'll limit it to what I'm doing now. My band, X Space, consists of my keyboard player and me. I play 5 and 6 string guitar, bass, synths and CD DJ equipment. In a few weeks we are going to change our basic sound as I work with a Line 6 DL-4 and Boomerang. I've read the list for awhile and know there are mixed feelings about the Rang but for the minimal time I've had it I really love it. It's hooked to a submixer for vocals, synths, bass and guitars. I am co-principle in a not-for-profit OMD called ArtistLaunch at http://www.artistlaunch.com . I co-host "The Fringe Show" on Thursday evenings as well. The band, show and site keep me pretty busy although I've had a great time looping after wanting to do so for years and never finding affordable tools e.g. JamMan. After buying a Fernandes Revolver guitar w/sustainer I figured it was a great time to get a looper so here I am. I've been trying to check out the Boss RC 20 as I'm interested in having a couple of looper pedals and although the DL-4 is a nice unit it's loop time is a bit short for the music we do. I may return it if I can find a RC 20 to demo (assuming I like it.) Also, I would like to say how pleasant the folks at Boomerang Musical Products have been. I asked a bunch of questions pre sale and got answers quickly. My transition to using the Rang was less than an hour. Ok, probably more than you need to know about me, thanks for reading, Bruce http://www.artistlaunch.com/bsmusic http://www.artistlaunch.com/xspace Bruce Satinover __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 29 05:21:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA26922; Tue, 29 May 2001 05:14:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 05:14:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: More EDP questions for Andy Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 04:06:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0E81E.9662CB36" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E81E.9662CB36 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Very brave words about a product that has yet to be used in anger. -----Original Message----- From: Italo De Angelis [mailto:italoop@libero.it] Sent: 27 May 2001 17:02 To: gnominus@earthling.net; Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More EDP questions for Andy The most clever solution....I agree ! ! ! ----- Original Message ----- From: J. Miranda V. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 5:00 PM Subject: RE: More EDP questions for Andy Get a Repeater instead. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Sandberg [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net] Sent: Sunday 27 May 2001 6:08 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More EDP questions for Andy another way of securing the chips, perhaps? I'm actually considering getting a boomerang or line 6 for backup, though I'd rather not. Any suggestions? ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E81E.9662CB36 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Re: More EDP questions for Andy
Very brave words about a product that has yet to be used in anger.
-----Original Message-----
From: Italo De Angelis [mailto:italoop@libero.it]
Sent: 27 May 2001 17:02
To: gnominus@earthling.net; Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: More EDP questions for Andy

The most clever solution....I agree ! ! !
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 5:00 PM
Subject: RE: More EDP questions for Andy

Get a Repeater instead.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Sandberg [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net]
Sent: Sunday 27 May 2001 6:08 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: More EDP questions for Andy

another way of securing the chips, perhaps?  I'm actually considering
getting a boomerang or line 6 for backup, though I'd rather not.  Any suggestions?
------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E81E.9662CB36-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 29 05:21:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA26844; Tue, 29 May 2001 05:13:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 05:13:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: More EDP questions for Andy Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 04:05:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0E81E.742DADEC" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E81E.742DADEC Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, I've come in late to this thread as we had a national holiday yesterday. Kim has pretty much said what I would have done; all electronic stuff has the potential for this type of failure, especially computer-based gear. This latest fault is likely to be connected with the earlier ones and it is very unlikely to be component failure. I look after all of the PCs and Laptops here at Trace and I am often removing memory or peripheral cards, cleaning them and replacing due to intermittent faults. These machines are far more expensive than most bits of musical gear, and they never get moved anywhere! After two years manufacture, we are very confident of the reliability of the Echoplex and with the improvements in components introduced by us early last year, the EDP is probably the least-likely to fail bit of kit we manufacture. Our core business is large Bass/Guitar amps which can have up to 10amps across their outputs; the potential for catastrophic failure here, is huge. At least the EDP doesn't explode if you plug the wrong thing into the output :-))) We even had a guy plug his 15" Bass cabinet into a 115V mains power outlet; his exact words were:- 'It was really, really loud, but only for a couple of seconds' Once you get your EDP checked-out, contacts cleaned, chips re-seated, it'll be good for years, Andy. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Sandberg [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net] Sent: 27 May 2001 14:08 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: More EDP questions for Andy Andy -- Thanks so much for all your replies to my EDP questions. I really appreciate them -- especially because I really like the EDP and in a short time it's become an essential part of what I'm doing musically. I haven't had a chance to have someone come and reseat the chips yet -- I'll do it when this weekend is over. Meanwhile, the EDP did one thing it's not done yet -- I had a loop recorded and the EDP was in mute mode. After a few minutes, it went out of mute mode by itself, played the loop for a bit, then stopped. when I looked at the front panel, it was back in that "LOOP 3" eternal cycle display. Could this be an indication of something else wrong with it than just loose memory chips? And should I perhaps send it into Gibson or wherever I send it for factory repairs? (I'd rather not, since I'm working with it every day). My other question is , all this is making me nervous. I'm going to be doing quite a bit of performing with it and was wondering if there is anything I can do to make it more stable -- another way of securing the chips, perhaps? I'm actually considering getting a boomerang or line 6 for backup, though I'd rather not. Any suggestions? thanks again for your quick replies to my questions -- Best, Steve ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E81E.742DADEC Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Re: More EDP questions for Andy
Hi,
I've come in late to this thread as we had a national holiday yesterday. Kim has pretty much said what I would have done; all electronic stuff has the potential for this type of failure, especially computer-based gear. This latest fault is likely to be connected with the earlier ones and it is very unlikely to be component failure. I look after all of the PCs and Laptops here at Trace and I am often removing memory or peripheral cards, cleaning them and replacing due to intermittent faults. These machines are far more expensive than most bits of musical gear, and they never get moved anywhere!
After two years manufacture, we are very confident of the reliability of the Echoplex and with the improvements in components introduced by us early last year, the EDP is probably the least-likely to fail bit of kit we manufacture.
Our core business is large Bass/Guitar amps which can have up to 10amps across their outputs; the potential for catastrophic failure here, is huge. At least the EDP doesn't explode if you plug the wrong thing into the output :-))) We even had a guy plug his 15" Bass cabinet into a 115V mains power outlet; his exact words were:- 'It was really, really loud, but only for a couple of seconds'
 
Once you get your EDP checked-out, contacts cleaned, chips re-seated, it'll be good for years,
Andy.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Sandberg [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net]
Sent: 27 May 2001 14:08
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: More EDP questions for Andy

Andy --
Thanks so much for all your replies to my EDP questions.  I really
appreciate them -- especially because I really like the EDP and in a short
time it's become an essential part of what I'm doing musically.
I haven't had a chance to have someone come and reseat the chips yet -- I'll
do it when this weekend is over.  Meanwhile, the EDP did one thing it's not
done yet -- I had a loop recorded and the EDP was in mute mode.  After a few
minutes, it went out of mute mode by itself, played the loop for a bit, then
stopped.  when I looked at the front panel, it was back in that "LOOP 3"
eternal cycle display.
Could this be an indication of something else wrong with it than just loose
memory chips?  And should I perhaps send it into Gibson or wherever I send
it for factory repairs? (I'd rather not, since I'm working with it every
day).
My other question is , all this is
making me nervous.  I'm going to be doing quite a bit of performing with it
and was wondering if there is anything I can do to make it more stable --
another way of securing the chips, perhaps?  I'm actually considering
getting a boomerang or line 6 for backup, though I'd rather not.  Any suggestions?
thanks again for your quick replies to my questions --
Best, Steve


------_=_NextPart_001_01C0E81E.742DADEC-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 29 15:12:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA17616; Tue, 29 May 2001 15:09:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:09:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3B0EC289.4904E329@zerocrossing.net> References: Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 12:09:13 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Chovit Subject: Re: sample looper boss Dr. Sample SP-303 (?) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I just got one a couple weeks ago, and i love it. I think it is key to use the smart media cards, cause that is the only way to get digital samples directly in. Also, using the analog inputs, it is hard to get the timing just right, but with the smart media card, i can input wav files (which i export from Cubase), with perfect timing (since Cubase cuts the samples right at the end of the bar). Plus, using the sequencer, I can set the BPM to the same as I had on Cubase, and it comes out PERFECT. Sequencing the samples is REALLY nice, as i can switch sequences with a punch of a button. The sound quality is good. I noticed that the sampled files were about 1/3 the size of the wav samples, so it must not be quite CD-quality, although they claim that it is. Also, the built in effects are decent. Another thing I like about the smart media storage is that it is silent, unlike the SP-808, which constantly accesses the (somewhat noisy, and less reliable) zip drive. The one downside to the SP-303 is that it only has a MIDI IN, so you can sync it off other units, but you can't sync other units off it. It would be nice if i could have this drive an EDP or a Jam Man, using the MIDI beat clock...but I can't...i guess i would need to upgrade to the SP-808 for that capaibility. Or I could use antoher MIDI beat source to driveboth.... Anyways, its a great companion to any digital audio software. USB Smart media writers are only $30-40. And, being my first sampler, its nice to have access to my samples, without having to power up my computer. Plus, there is the portability factor! I'm sure there are better samplers out there for more $$, but i think its worth the $400 ($300, + an extra $100 for a smart media writer and a 64MB card.) - chris >Hey loopkids, > >Gotta 3 day weekend ahead of me and a $100 dollar gift certificate at >the Guitar Center (as if they sell much under a $100....) > >and I was wondering about the Boss Dr. Sample SP-303. I really like the >idea of being able to sample anywhere using it's battery feature. (Pat >Mastelotto uses it a LOT on the ProjecKt X cd... a great cd imho) Have >any of you used it? Is it worth the $300? Are there better? Should I >save my cash and get something more real? My main purpose is to sample >bits of media (movies, tv, self help tapes, ect...) and bring it into >the mix. > >Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 29 15:58:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA18862; Tue, 29 May 2001 15:56:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:56:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <017701c0e879$2d7b0e20$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: Subject: Re: fx loop expander Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:54:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks for the link! Interesting! The MF-1 and MF-2 footswitches can be set-up to send MIDI note messages. It might make a good EDP controller. Intriguing! The manual does not give enough details though. Does anybody have one of these units? Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "omjn" To: "Loopers-Delight" Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 12:04 AM Subject: fx loop expander > hi > > I remember someone saying something a while ago about an fx loop expander in > a thread about speaker selectors. I stumbled across this and thought it > might be of interest. never heard of the company, but they also make midi > foot controllers and a bunch of other miscellaneous stuff. > > http://www.nobels.com/english.htm > > cheers > omjn > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 29 17:00:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA21617; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:58:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 16:58:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000d01c0e881$edcf87c0$6787abd4@LucaFormentini> From: "luca" To: References: <017701c0e879$2d7b0e20$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> Subject: R: fx loop expander Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 22:57:07 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <_vFQi.A.hRF.o0AF7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > > The MF-1 and MF-2 footswitches can be set-up to send MIDI note messages. It > might make a good EDP controller. Intriguing! The manual does not give > enough details though. Does anybody have one of these units? > > Dennis Leas Once I had one. It is pretty solid and has a good feeling under the feet (you can feel when you have pushed) 4 cc plus 4 switches I gave it back because I prefered to have the 8 cc of the Rolls midiwizard I think I remember the note messages (called "funny mode" ?) could be sent just after having switched by hand a switch on the chassis. luca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 29 17:00:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA21649; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:58:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 16:58:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003201c0e882$117ef7a0$1b6a97d4@elias> From: "Elias Faingersh" To: Subject: SV: Elias Faingersh gig Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 22:58:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01C0E892.D3C8DF00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C0E892.D3C8DF00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In NY I'll be doing my solo show twice in Ozzie's Coffe 249 Fifth = Ave./57 Ave (Park Slope, Brooklyn). June 2th and 9th. at8 p.m http://www.ozziescoffee.com/index.html (718) 852-1553 And at "Desmond Tavern" It's Park Ave. between 30th and 31 street June = 10th at 8pm.=20 I play trombone and use old mary Jamman, Lexicon MPX1 and Lexicon = MPX100. http://home.swipnet.se/faingersh If you are in the area you are mostly welcome! I think it's a good one! :) Elias. -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr=E5n: Steve Sandberg Till: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com = Datum: den 29 maj 2001 02:34 =C4mne: Elias Faingersh gig =20 =20 I'm going to play in NY in a week......let see how it will work there.......nerves.. =20 =20 Where are you playing? ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C0E892.D3C8DF00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Elias Faingersh gig
In NY I'll be doing my solo show = twice in=20 Ozzie's Coffe 249 Fifth Ave./57 Ave (Park Slope, Brooklyn). June 2th and = 9th.=20 at8 p.m
http://www.ozziescoffee.c= om/index.html  =20 (718) 852-1553
 
And at = "Desmond=20 Tavern" It's Park Ave. between 30th and 31 street June 10th at 8pm. =
 
I play trombone and use old mary Jamman, Lexicon = MPX1 and=20 Lexicon MPX100.
http://home.swipnet.se/faingers= h
 
If you are in the area you are = mostly=20 welcome!
I think it's a good one! :)
 
Elias.
 
-----Ursprungligt=20 meddelande-----
Fr=E5n: Steve Sandberg <stevesandberg@earthlink.net>
Till:=20 Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20 <Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com>
Datum:=20 den 29 maj 2001 02:34
=C4mne: Elias Faingersh=20 gig

I'm going to play in NY in a = week......let see=20 how it
will work = there.......nerves..

Where=20 are you playing?
------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C0E892.D3C8DF00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 29 17:12:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA23339; Tue, 29 May 2001 17:11:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:11:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000d01c0e881$edcf87c0$6787abd4@LucaFormentini> References: <017701c0e879$2d7b0e20$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> <000d01c0e881$edcf87c0$6787abd4@LucaFormentini> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:02:35 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: R: fx loop expander Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <0cZap.A.9rF.LBBF7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com wow...8 cc controllers...controlling what? that's a lot of shoegazing! luca, it sounds as if you've got the Rolls Midiwizard down pretty good. I've got one, but the manual seems jibberish to me, and i've got a few questions. if you wouldn't mind...could you email me off list if you got some time? best, rich > > >> The MF-1 and MF-2 footswitches can be set-up to send MIDI note messages. >It >> might make a good EDP controller. Intriguing! The manual does not give >> enough details though. Does anybody have one of these units? >> >> Dennis Leas > >Once I had one. >It is pretty solid and has a good feeling under the feet (you can feel when >you have pushed) >4 cc plus 4 switches >I gave it back because I prefered to have the 8 cc of the Rolls midiwizard >I think I remember the note messages (called "funny mode" ?) could be sent >just after having switched by hand a switch on the chassis. >luca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 29 17:39:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA24611; Tue, 29 May 2001 17:37:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:37:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 14:36:23 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: Re: R: fx loop expander Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id RAA24559 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com 8 cc's is what it takes to have complete control over the DMC GCX Expander relay switcher... Some of the Bradshaw boxes have 4 relays, but then many folks have a couple of them... If you want to * complete * control over the boxes you have to be able to switch all of the loops simultaneously. -Miko >>> rich@nuvisionsca.com 05/29/01 02:02PM >>> wow...8 cc controllers...controlling what? that's a lot of shoegazing! luca, it sounds as if you've got the Rolls Midiwizard down pretty good. I've got one, but the manual seems jibberish to me, and i've got a few questions. if you wouldn't mind...could you email me off list if you got some time? best, rich > > >> The MF-1 and MF-2 footswitches can be set-up to send MIDI note messages. >It >> might make a good EDP controller. Intriguing! The manual does not give >> enough details though. Does anybody have one of these units? >> >> Dennis Leas > >Once I had one. >It is pretty solid and has a good feeling under the feet (you can feel when >you have pushed) >4 cc plus 4 switches >I gave it back because I prefered to have the 8 cc of the Rolls midiwizard >I think I remember the note messages (called "funny mode" ?) could be sent >just after having switched by hand a switch on the chassis. >luca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 29 18:00:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA25238; Tue, 29 May 2001 17:58:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 17:58:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004d01c0e88a$72b0e3a0$0100007f@LucaFormentini> From: "luca" To: References: Subject: R: R: fx loop expander Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 23:56:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > 8 cc's is what it takes to have complete control over the DMC GCX Expander relay switcher... Some of the Bradshaw >boxes have 4 relays, but then many folks have a couple of them... If you want to * complete * control over the boxes you >have to be able to switch all of the loops simultaneously. > > -Miko I've been off this thread's start,so it's difficult to understand what you are talking about. I can say I am using parallel processing through a 6 auxs mixer (using also its groups as they were more auxs). Before this I have been using (very happily) an Advance tube technology Tube mixer. > >>> rich@nuvisionsca.com 05/29/01 02:02PM >>> > wow...8 cc controllers...controlling what? that's a lot of shoegazing! I am using just 6 of them for volumes, feedbacks, lfos,... of three different machines > luca, it sounds as if you've got the Rolls Midiwizard down pretty > good. I've got one, but the manual seems jibberish to me, and i've > got a few questions. if you wouldn't mind...could you email me off > list if you got some time? I agree, the manual is really bad done, mail me your questions, I hope to be useful my best, luca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 29 18:20:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA27183; Tue, 29 May 2001 18:18:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 18:18:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <009f01c0e88d$2f6bca80$0100007f@LucaFormentini> From: "luca" To: References: <200105271503.LAA26547@hemlock.violacea.com><00b201c1174b$e844e5e0$5441f93f@looppool> <002d01c0e7aa$97741e40$bb83abd4@LucaFormentini> <002601c0e7cb$2b3bf1a0$8b0d153f@oemcomputer> Subject: R: LOOPING FESTIVAL - EUROPE Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 00:17:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009C_01C0E89D.F19D47E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <4chTgC.A.eoG.BACF7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009C_01C0E89D.F19D47E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO ARMS!!!Hi, yes, he's that Mike Cooper ! the festival will be from July the 6th to the 8th hope to see you there, or at least, one day in Italy., ciao, luca ----- Original Message -----=20 From: become_1=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 1:08 AM Subject: Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL - EUROPE Ciao Luca, When's the festival? Maybe I'll be back by then ( if not, then next = year!) That's Mike Cooper who lives and plays around Rome? =20 Saluti, Bruce Comens ------=_NextPart_000_009C_01C0E89D.F19D47E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO ARMS!!!
Hi,
yes, he's that Mike Cooper = !
the festival will be from July the 6th = to the=20 8th
 
hope to see you there, or at least, one = day in=20 Italy.,
 
ciao,
luca
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 become_1
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 = 1:08 AM
Subject: Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL - = EUROPE

Ciao Luca,
When's the festival?  Maybe I'll = be back by=20 then ( if not, then next year!)
That's Mike Cooper who lives and = plays around=20 Rome? 
Saluti,
Bruce=20 Comens
------=_NextPart_000_009C_01C0E89D.F19D47E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 29 18:33:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA27539; Tue, 29 May 2001 18:32:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 18:32:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:32:37 -0700 Subject: Re: SV: Elias Faingersh gig From: kevin To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <003201c0e882$117ef7a0$1b6a97d4@elias> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3073995157_532619_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3073995157_532619_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Mr. Faingersh: We checked out your web sight. It was very interesting. Wish you had a show on the west coast! Practical question. Can you tell us how you are amplifying your trombone? Best, Kevin on 5/29/01 1:58 PM, Elias Faingersh at elias@mbox306.swipnet.se wrote: In NY I'll be doing my solo show twice in Ozzie's Coffe 249 Fifth Ave./57 Ave (Park Slope, Brooklyn). June 2th and 9th. at8 p.m http://www.ozziescoffee.com/index.html (718) 852-1553 And at "Desmond Tavern" It's Park Ave. between 30th and 31 street June 10th at 8pm. I play trombone and use old mary Jamman, Lexicon MPX1 and Lexicon MPX100. http://home.swipnet.se/faingersh If you are in the area you are mostly welcome! I think it's a good one! :) Elias. -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr?n: Steve Sandberg Till: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Datum: den 29 maj 2001 02:34 ?mne: Elias Faingersh gig I'm going to play in NY in a week......let see how it will work there.......nerves.. Where are you playing? --MS_Mac_OE_3073995157_532619_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: SV: Elias Faingersh gig Mr. Faingersh:

We checked out your web sight.  It was very interesting.  Wish yo= u had a show on the west coast!

Practical question.  Can you tell us how you are amplifying your tromb= one?


Best,
Kevin

on 5/29/01 1:58 PM, Elias Faingersh at elias@mbox306.swipnet.se wrote:

In NY I'll be doing my solo show twice in Ozzie'= s Coffe 249 Fifth Ave./57 Ave (Park Slope, Brooklyn). June 2th and 9th. at8 = p.m
http://www.ozziescoffee.com/index.html   (718) 852-1553
And at "Desmond Tavern" It's Park Ave. between 30t= h and 31 street June 10th at 8pm.

I play trombone and use old mary Jamman, Lexicon MPX1 and Le= xicon MPX100.
http://home.swipnet.se/faingersh
If you are in the area you are mostly welcome!
I think it's a good one! :)
Elias.
-----Ursprungligt meddelan= de-----
Fr?n: Steve Sandberg <stevesandberg@earthlink.net>
Till: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com <Loopers-Delight@looper= s-delight.com>
Datum: den 29 maj 2001 02:34
?mne: Elias Faingersh gig

I'm going to play in NY in a week......let see how it
will work there.......nerves..

Where are you playing?


--MS_Mac_OE_3073995157_532619_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 29 18:36:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA27850; Tue, 29 May 2001 18:35:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 18:35:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001601c0e88f$89bce800$b20e97d4@elias> From: "Elias Faingersh" To: Subject: SV: LOOPING FESTIVAL - EUROPE Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 00:34:34 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01C0E8A0.4C857540" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C0E8A0.4C857540 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Where in Italy is it? -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr=E5n: luca Till: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com = Datum: den 30 maj 2001 00:18 =C4mne: R: LOOPING FESTIVAL - EUROPE =20 =20 Hi, yes, he's that Mike Cooper ! the festival will be from July the 6th to the 8th =20 hope to see you there, or at least, one day in Italy., =20 ciao, luca ----- Original Message -----=20 From: become_1=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 1:08 AM Subject: Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL - EUROPE =20 =20 Ciao Luca, When's the festival? Maybe I'll be back by then ( if not, then = next year!) That's Mike Cooper who lives and plays around Rome? =20 Saluti, Bruce Comens ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C0E8A0.4C857540 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO = ARMS!!!
Where in Italy is it?
-----Ursprungligt=20 meddelande-----
Fr=E5n: luca <lucafeed@tin.it>
Till: = Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20 <Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com>
Datum:=20 den 30 maj 2001 00:18
=C4mne: R: LOOPING FESTIVAL -=20 EUROPE

Hi,
yes, he's that Mike Cooper = !
the festival will be from July the = 6th to the=20 8th
 
hope to see you there, or at least, = one day in=20 Italy.,
 
ciao,
luca
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 become_1
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, = 2001 1:08=20 AM
Subject: Re: LOOPING = FESTIVAL -=20 EUROPE

Ciao Luca,
When's the festival?  = Maybe I'll be=20 back by then ( if not, then next year!)
That's Mike Cooper who lives = and plays=20 around Rome? 
Saluti,
Bruce=20 Comens
------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C0E8A0.4C857540-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue May 29 19:27:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA30268; Tue, 29 May 2001 19:25:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 19:25:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 19:25:12 -0400 Subject: echoplex motors? From: "John C. Beal" To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Does anyone know the manufacturer of motors for old echoplexes? I lost my contact, to a company in Chicago, I think. They were selling them wholesale for only $40 last year. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 30 02:35:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA14276; Wed, 30 May 2001 02:32:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 02:32:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [4.35.108.86] From: "Professor Vast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: indian percussion looping and such Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 23:31:15 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 May 2001 06:31:16.0339 (UTC) FILETIME=[21278C30:01C0E8D2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >From: "Haresh Bakshi" >Hi Richard, creating consciousness about live looping is a very >pragmatic>proposal. Indian music has/can have much looping, when used >judiciously.>Such Indian loops can be eminently suitable for jamming and >World >music,>too. > >My problem is: Which software will especially suit looping in Indian >music?>[Tanpura, tabla, fast, repetitive Sitar passages etc.] > >Regards, >Haresh. actually, i'm indian and i did something very simple with some layered drone guitars and a one bar loop with a few tabla/percussion sounds. i'm going to incorporate more indian percussion in me tracks and this is my "testing the waters" track. i would like some feedback if you don't mind. www.mp3.com/PV - track called "the liquid space" if you can give me examples of stuff that involves looping with this percussion sound, do let me know. thanks...dino _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 30 02:52:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA14817; Wed, 30 May 2001 02:51:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 02:51:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006701c0e8d4$aa3848a0$e3ac6fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: Subject: advice Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 07:45:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'm about to make a recording either of one of my live looping shows or a studio based one soon. Having made a recording though and converted it to MP3 how do I post it upon the net? and should I place a real audio version up there too or should it be a small section of the piece? I'd welcome any suggestions you guys have on this. Gareth From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 30 02:52:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA14822; Wed, 30 May 2001 02:51:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 02:51:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006501c0e8d4$a8fae6a0$e3ac6fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: <017701c0e879$2d7b0e20$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> <000d01c0e881$edcf87c0$6787abd4@LucaFormentini> Subject: Re: fx loop expander Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 07:32:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: <3FQvCC.A.3mD.YhJF7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'm a midi rolls user too -it's very well thought out. Problem is I now have 5 switches and 2 pedals on the 8080, 4 pedals and 4 switches on CV inputs of the midi rolls plus the switches on the rolls itself -whew! - but what POWER what FLEXIBILITY what a SONIC CONTROL FREAK I'VE BECOME HEEEHEHEHAHAHHAHOOOOoooo............ Gareth (must keep taking the tablets) > Once I had one. > It is pretty solid and has a good feeling under the feet (you can feel when > you have pushed) > 4 cc plus 4 switches > I gave it back because I prefered to have the 8 cc of the Rolls midiwizard > I think I remember the note messages (called "funny mode" ?) could be sent > just after having switched by hand a switch on the chassis. > luca > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 30 02:56:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA15120; Wed, 30 May 2001 02:54:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 02:54:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <2.72982025146484.429.409196615219@1.00008293893554> X-Sender: X-Mailer: Ken's Useful eMail Suite v5.1 Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 02:52:27 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Ken Subject: NYC:Ken'sLastEverRadioExtravaganza Sun 6/3 ABC No-Riot Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <88uGiD.A.0rD.WkJF7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sunday June 3rd 5:30pm @ ABC No-Rio 156 Rivington St. NYC C.O.M.A.'s 3rd Annual Benefit for the Restoration and Acquisition of 156 Rivington St. Four floors plus garden and roof of Lower East Side community center will be filled beyond sonic capacity with 80+ performers of improvised music Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza will be exuding loopy audio musings emanating from whatever equipment happens to be available that day, absence of preparation, completely improvised noises, sentence fragments. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 30 09:20:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA30200; Wed, 30 May 2001 09:18:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 09:18:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:18:47 -0700 Subject: Nobels MF-1 From: Steve Lawson To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-gAoKD.A.WXH.VMPF7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >>> The MF-1 and MF-2 footswitches can be set-up to send MIDI note messages. It might make a good EDP controller. Intriguing! The manual does not give enough details though. Does anybody have one of these units?<<< i've got one, and occasionally use it with my JamMan. The note message thing is fun - I once set it up as a bass pedals unit - 'and tonight Matthew, i'm going to be Geddy Lee'... :o) Not got an EDP, so I can't comment there... Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 30 09:33:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA30497; Wed, 30 May 2001 09:31:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 09:31:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <0FE98FA04927D411A48300D0B77CF9BB4D2687@tiger.middlebury.edu> From: "Christensen, Mark" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Nobels MF-1 Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 09:31:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com this sounds just like what i've been looking for to trigger my sampler. just per chance... anybody got one they want to get rid of or trade for a different midi controller? give me a shout off list. m > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Lawson [SMTP:steve@steve-lawson.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 5:19 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Nobels MF-1 > > >>> > The MF-1 and MF-2 footswitches can be set-up to send MIDI note messages. > It > might make a good EDP controller. Intriguing! The manual does not give > enough details though. Does anybody have one of these units?<<< > > i've got one, and occasionally use it with my JamMan. > > The note message thing is fun - I once set it up as a bass pedals unit - > 'and tonight Matthew, i'm going to be Geddy Lee'... :o) > > Not got an EDP, so I can't comment there... > > Steve > www.steve-lawson.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 30 10:54:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA00809; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:52:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:52:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004d01c0e917$dbf3ee10$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: Subject: Re: Nobels MF-1 Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 09:50:24 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Lawson" > i've got one, and occasionally use it with my JamMan. > > The note message thing is fun - I once set it up as a bass pedals unit - > 'and tonight Matthew, i'm going to be Geddy Lee'... :o) Hey, Steve! Give me more details on this thang. In "funny note mode" it sends a MIDI Note-on when you press a button. Does it send the MIDI Note-off when you release the button? Thanks! Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 30 11:31:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03456; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:29:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:29:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 16:30:16 +0100 Subject: Re: advice From: roberto To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <006701c0e8d4$aa3848a0$e3ac6fd4@dolly> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com on 30/5/01 7:45 AM, whiteoakstudios at whiteoakstudios@supanet.com wrote: > I'm about to make a recording either of one of my live looping shows or a > studio based one soon. > Having made a recording though and converted it to MP3 how do I post it upon > the net? and should I place a real audio version up there too or should it > be a small section of the piece? > I'd welcome any suggestions you guys have on this. > > Gareth > There are many different ways of presenting audio files on the net, none of which is totally satisfactory. The files need to be small enough (in file size) to be bearably fast. If you have MP3 files the easiest is to include them in a html page with a QuickTime player, the quality is acceptable although the files are still rather big. You will need tools (many available free on the net) to format the files but it's all fairly easy. Real audio is more fiddly to format and it only plays back in the ugly Real player, the size is similar to MP3/QuickTime anyway. Forget about putting long pieces, stick to selected snippets of one minute at the most most people would get frustrated by the slow response and give up or their connection would be likely to drop half-way through. For my record label's web site (http://www.rustyrobot.com ) I have used Shockwave/Flash files played in a Shockwave player, custom made. You can easily export as Shockwave sound files of all kinds (MP3, QuickTime, Aiff, Wav etc.) from an application like Sound Edit or Peak. The quality is the same as MP3 but the file size is a fraction and usually the sound streams nicely. If you need more detailed info feel free to get in touch. Roberto ______________________________________________ Roberto Battista http://www.robat.scl.net http://www.robat.scl.net/lectures/index.shtm Tel. 0044 020 8449 1995 Mobile 0775 960 4344 ______________________________________________ http://www.rustyrobot.com independent on-line music distribution, the music you can't find elsewhere, contemporary classical, eclectic, world... ______________________________________________ http://www.robat.scl.net/html/tibet/tibet.shtm an exciting project on technology applied to mobile education for developing countries and remote locations... ______________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 30 11:31:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03481; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:29:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:29:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 16:31:53 +0100 Subject: Re: advice From: roberto To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <006701c0e8d4$aa3848a0$e3ac6fd4@dolly> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3MIqJB.A.t1.0GRF7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com on 30/5/01 7:45 AM, whiteoakstudios at whiteoakstudios@supanet.com wrote: > I'm about to make a recording either of one of my live looping shows or a > studio based one soon. > Having made a recording though and converted it to MP3 how do I post it upon > the net? and should I place a real audio version up there too or should it > be a small section of the piece? > I'd welcome any suggestions you guys have on this. > > Gareth There are many different ways of presenting audio files on the net, none of which is totally satisfactory. The files need to be small enough (in file size) to be bearably fast. If you have MP3 files the easiest is to include them in a html page with a QuickTime player, the quality is acceptable although the files are still rather big. You will need tools (many available free on the net) to format the files but it's all fairly easy. Real audio is more fiddly to format and it only plays back in the ugly Real player, the size is similar to MP3/QuickTime anyway. Forget about putting long pieces, stick to selected snippets of one minute at the most most people would get frustrated by the slow response and give up or their connection would be likely to drop half-way through. For my record label's web site (http://www.rustyrobot.com ) I have used Shockwave/Flash files played in a Shockwave player, custom made. You can easily export as Shockwave sound files of all kinds (MP3, QuickTime, Aiff, Wav etc.) from an application like Sound Edit or Peak. The quality is the same as MP3 but the file size is a fraction and usually the sound streams nicely. If you need more detailed info feel free to get in touch. Roberto > ______________________________________________ Roberto Battista http://www.robat.scl.net http://www.robat.scl.net/lectures/index.shtm Tel. 0044 020 8449 1995 Mobile 0775 960 4344 ______________________________________________ http://www.rustyrobot.com independent on-line music distribution, the music you can't find elsewhere, contemporary classical, eclectic, world... ______________________________________________ http://www.robat.scl.net/html/tibet/tibet.shtm an exciting project on technology applied to mobile education for developing countries and remote locations... ______________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 30 11:56:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA04312; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:54:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:54:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 08:52:52 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: Re: R: R: fx loop expander Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id LAA04237 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This was in reference to the Midi Wizard's versus the Nobels controller control change capabilities... 8cc's compared to 4... 8 is mo' bettah if you're controlling a relay switcher such as a Bradshaw or the popular Digital Music Corp's GCX Expander. -Miko >>> lucafeed@tin.it 05/29/01 02:56PM >>> > 8 cc's is what it takes to have complete control over the DMC GCX Expander relay switcher... Some of the Bradshaw >boxes have 4 relays, but then many folks have a couple of them... If you want to * complete * control over the boxes you >have to be able to switch all of the loops simultaneously. > > -Miko I've been off this thread's start,so it's difficult to understand what you are talking about. I can say I am using parallel processing through a 6 auxs mixer (using also its groups as they were more auxs). Before this I have been using (very happily) an Advance tube technology Tube mixer. > >>> rich@nuvisionsca.com 05/29/01 02:02PM >>> > wow...8 cc controllers...controlling what? that's a lot of shoegazing! I am using just 6 of them for volumes, feedbacks, lfos,... of three different machines > luca, it sounds as if you've got the Rolls Midiwizard down pretty > good. I've got one, but the manual seems jibberish to me, and i've > got a few questions. if you wouldn't mind...could you email me off > list if you got some time? I agree, the manual is really bad done, mail me your questions, I hope to be useful my best, luca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 30 12:04:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA04735; Wed, 30 May 2001 11:59:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:59:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <018d01c0e921$3b0093a0$6b44230a@mlameyer02> From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: References: Subject: Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO ARMS!!! Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:57:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Haresh, can you be more specific? What aspects of Indian music do you think would need the most consideration from a looping standpoint? Thanks, Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haresh Bakshi" To: Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 5:06 PM Subject: Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO ARMS!!! > Hi Richard, creating consciousness about live looping is a very pragmatic > proposal. Indian music has/can have much looping, when used judiciously. > Such Indian loops can be eminently suitable for jamming and World music, > too. > > My problem is: Which software will especially suit looping in Indian music? > [Tanpura, tabla, fast, repetitive Sitar passages etc.] > > Regards, > Haresh. > > > -------- Richard Zvonar wrote: ----------------------------------- > >From: Richard Zvonar > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Subject: Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO ARMS!!! > >Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 09:35:51 -0700 > > > >At 2:58 AM -0700 7/28/01, Rick Walker (loop.pool) wrote: > > > >>My thinking has been to create some high profile (to the media, at > >>least) specific looping events to create the conciousness in the > >>musical community of the emergence and legitmacy of live looping as > >>a viable new artform...I think we should all think seriously about > >>gathering three loopers (including from outlying areas) and putting > >>on our own Regional Looping Festivals. > > > >Yesterday was the first anniversary party for the Los Angeles chapter > >of American Composers Forum. One topic of discussion was how to > >involve exponents of Electronica, DJ, Looping, etc. We're interested > >in collaborating with presenters in Los Angeles area, and we're > >hoping to put together a festival sometime in the coming years. Our > >organization is well-established on a national level, with a number > >of programs, our own CD label, etc. > > > >Check out our Web site: > > > >http://www.composers.la/ > > > >Also the main ACF site: > > > >http://www.composersforum.org/ > >-- > > > >______________________________________________________________ > >Richard Zvonar, PhD > >(818) 788-2202 > >http://www.zvonar.com > >http://RZCybernetics.com > >http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone > >http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz > > ________________________________________________________________ _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed May 30 14:59:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA12430; Wed, 30 May 2001 14:56:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 14:56:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net (Unverified) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 11:47:36 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: way OT: more gibson conspiracies Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi all, just browsing around and came across this. no looping content whatsoever, but i thought it was pretty funny in light of all the gibson bashing done around here! now they're hiding stuff... http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/2001/1995-Kramers.html best, rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 31 00:13:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA05127; Thu, 31 May 2001 00:10:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 00:10:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Sender: simran@phys-ha2mpkb-16.Eng.Sun.COM Message-ID: <3B15C3B2.A7354C4A@Sun.COM> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 21:08:18 -0700 From: Simran gleason Reply-To: Simran.Gleason@Sun.COM Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76C-CCK-MCD Netscape [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Gig Spam: Mixtape from Mars in San Francisco. Friday June 1st. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_iVIND.A.TOB.1OcF7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Howdy Loopers, my full band, Mixtape from Mars, will be opening for the Ali KhanBand in San Francisco this friday, June 1st. We've got overtones, vocal percusssion, a brand new Blue Man ORgan, didges, air trumpet, and of course it all runs through my pair of loopers and barely countable delay boxes. Simran Here's the announcement: Welcome back to Mars! News this week is that we're playing in San Francisco as one of the opening acts in the 246(i) World Remix series. This is the first of a series of world music concerts sponsored by the sound lab at CELLspace. The headliner is the Ali Khan Band, a mix of Qawwali, bhangra, funk, hip-hop and dance. Check out this article in Asia Week for more description: http://www.asianweek.com/2001_05_25/ae3_alikhan_worldremix.html We're one of the opening bands, along with JouJou, a women's a cappella group who sing Balkan, Appalachian, Italian and Greek songs, and describe themselves as singing goofy international folk jazz! Check out http://www.joujousings.com for more of their schtuff. OK, here's the stats: where: CELLspace 2050 Bryant between 18th & 19th in the mission, in San Francisco when: Friday, June 1st, 2001 8:30 pm. Reservations: recommended. sound@cellspace.org or call : 415-430-1269 ext.2126 OK, now just in case you don't remember us, Mixtape from Mars is a loose techno tribal collective specializing in odd sounds from homemade and store-bought instruments. You might hear vocal percusssion, throat singing, didgeridoo, the toob, drum & bass rhythms, and drones. So your buddy just got back from the club scene on Mars; brought you a mixtape. Check this out: they got killer vocal percussion (that guy can *sing* jungle rhythms), overtones and deep throat singing, a didgeridoo player, some guy chanting into a 12 foot long silver toob, phunky samples. Yow! what else. At this show: Andrew Chaikin's vocal percussssion and kargyra snort singing Barbara Jaspersen sings soprano vox Achut Reddy plays didges and flutes Simran pulls his tablas out of storage, and built a blue man organ just for this show. Rob Penn will be bringing us his inimitable muted air trumpet Deborah Ben-Elizer joins us for the first time with her vocal jams. And we hope we manage to convince John Cornwell to come and play the tooob. More data: http://www.mp3.com/MixtapeFromMars http://www/mp3.com/Inkstone http://www.biggerbread.com Have fun! Simran From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 31 01:32:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA09016; Thu, 31 May 2001 01:30:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 01:30:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4C48@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Gig Spam: Mixtape from Mars in San Francisco. Friday June 1st . Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 00:29:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com yes, but it can't be cool if you don't have a jaw harp and kazzoo quintet to back you up ?! haha,seriously, good luck with gig, whish I could be there to hear some looping... Denis Denis taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com -----Original Message----- From: Simran gleason [mailto:simran.gleason@Sun.COM] S Howdy Loopers, my full band, Mixtape from Mars, will be opening for the Ali KhanBand in San Francisco this friday, June 1st. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 31 11:35:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA29240; Thu, 31 May 2001 11:30:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 11:30:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3B15C3B2.A7354C4A@Sun.COM> References: <3B15C3B2.A7354C4A@Sun.COM> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 08:21:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: Gig Spam: Mixtape from Mars in San Francisco. Friday June 1st. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Simran, hey...have a great show. I was fortunate to catch the ali khan band at ashkenaz in berkely several years ago while visiting the area. i was familiar with qawwalii, but they just blew me away with their eclectic mix. coming from the jaded, 'more alternative-than-thou' school of music...what a joy to see these folks having a total blast on stage with tight musicianship, as well. EVERYBODY was dancing that night... have fun! rich >Howdy Loopers, >my full band, Mixtape from Mars, will be opening for the >Ali KhanBand in San Francisco this friday, June 1st. We've got >overtones, vocal >percusssion, a brand new Blue Man ORgan, didges, air trumpet, >and of course it all runs through my pair of loopers and barely >countable >delay boxes. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 31 19:28:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12837; Thu, 31 May 2001 19:21:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:21:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00a501c0ea28$43cbe040$6e87abd4@LucaFormentini> From: "luca" To: References: <017701c0e879$2d7b0e20$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> <000d01c0e881$edcf87c0$6787abd4@LucaFormentini> <006501c0e8d4$a8fae6a0$e3ac6fd4@dolly> Subject: R: fx loop expander Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 01:15:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com which kind of foot pedals are you using for CC ? it's a pain to find the ones that can give the complete midi control change ! luca > I'm a midi rolls user too -it's very well thought out. Problem is I now have > 5 switches and 2 pedals on the 8080, 4 pedals and 4 switches on CV inputs of > the midi rolls plus the switches on the rolls itself -whew! > - but what POWER what FLEXIBILITY what a SONIC CONTROL FREAK I'VE BECOME > HEEEHEHEHAHAHHAHOOOOoooo............ > > Gareth > (must keep taking the tablets) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 31 19:29:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12841; Thu, 31 May 2001 19:21:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 19:21:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00a401c0ea28$40a7bce0$6e87abd4@LucaFormentini> From: "luca" To: References: <001601c0e88f$89bce800$b20e97d4@elias> Subject: R: LOOPING FESTIVAL - EUROPE Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 01:12:29 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0058_01C0EA37.ED8E4A00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C0EA37.ED8E4A00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO ARMS!!!It will be held on Garda Lake: = Desenzano (it is on the southern coast). from June the 6th to the 8th. if you come, please let me know ! bye, luca ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Elias Faingersh=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 12:34 AM Subject: SV: LOOPING FESTIVAL - EUROPE Where in Italy is it? -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr=E5n: luca Till: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com = Datum: den 30 maj 2001 00:18 =C4mne: R: LOOPING FESTIVAL - EUROPE Hi, yes, he's that Mike Cooper ! the festival will be from July the 6th to the 8th hope to see you there, or at least, one day in Italy., ciao, luca ----- Original Message -----=20 From: become_1=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 1:08 AM Subject: Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL - EUROPE Ciao Luca, When's the festival? Maybe I'll be back by then ( if not, then = next year!) That's Mike Cooper who lives and plays around Rome? =20 Saluti, Bruce Comens ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C0EA37.ED8E4A00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: LOOPING FESTIVAL CALL TO ARMS!!!
It will be held on Garda Lake: = Desenzano (it is on=20 the southern coast).
from  June the 6th to the = 8th.
 
if you come, please let me know = !
bye,
luca
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Elias=20 Faingersh
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 = 12:34=20 AM
Subject: SV: LOOPING FESTIVAL - = EUROPE

Where in Italy is it?
-----Ursprungligt=20 meddelande-----
Fr=E5n: luca <lucafeed@tin.it>
Till: = Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20 <Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com>
Datum:=20 den 30 maj 2001 00:18
=C4mne: R: LOOPING FESTIVAL -=20 EUROPE

Hi,
yes, he's that Mike Cooper = !
the festival will be from July the = 6th to the=20 8th
 
hope to see you there, or at least, = one day in=20 Italy.,
 
ciao,
luca
----- Original Message ----- =
From:=20 become_1
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 = 1:08=20 AM
Subject: Re: LOOPING = FESTIVAL -=20 EUROPE

Ciao Luca,
When's the festival?  Maybe = I'll be back=20 by then ( if not, then next year!)
That's Mike Cooper who lives and = plays around=20 Rome? 
Saluti,
Bruce=20 = Comens
------=_NextPart_000_0058_01C0EA37.ED8E4A00-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 31 20:17:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA14911; Thu, 31 May 2001 20:15:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:15:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <013a01c0e966$8dfbcf80$21aa5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" Subject: EMUSIC Top 20 Report for May Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 20:13:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <6gcE3B.A.joD.V6tF7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com WDIY 88.1 FM "EMUSIC" Top 20 report to New Age Voice and CD Revolutions for May, 2001. Shows #214 to #218; 26-April-2001 to 24-May-2001 Reported in non-ranked order. Compiled by Bill Fox, billfox@fast.net CONTACT: billfox@fast.net ARTIST - ALBUM TITLE - LABEL ============================ AirSculpture - Quark Soup - Jodrell Bank - Neu Harmony Alhedion - Kosmische Spuren Eines Lebens - Invisible Shadows Arcane - Arcane - Concerts at Jodrel Bank - Neu Harmony Ian Boddy, Markus Reuter & Nigel Mullaney - Triptych - DiN J. Arif Verner - Through the Timeless - Spotted Peccary James Johnson & Stephen Philips - Lost at Dunn's Lake - Zero Music Jeff Pearce - The Light Beyond - Hypnos Medwyn Goodall - Essence of Magic - New World Music Mother Mallard's Portable Masterpiece Co. - Like a Duck to Water - Cuneiform Paul Nagle - Paul Nagle - Concerts at Jodrel Bank - Neu Harmony Pyramid Peak - Fish'n Love - Invisible Shadows RMI - RMI - Concerts at Jodrell Bank - Neu Harmony Ron Boots - Close, But Not Touching - Groove Something Completely Different - Megakatz - Invisible Shadows Spacecraft - Earthtime Tapestry - Lektronic Soundscapes Spacecraft - Summer Town - SpaceForMusic.com Steve Roach & Vir Unis - Blood Machine - GreenHouse Tranquillity - Core - Invisible Shadows TUU - One Thousand Years - Waveform Vir Unis - Live Gathering 23 - SpaceForMusic.com Bill billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html ============================================================================ Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, send email to: emusic-wdiy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 31 21:00:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA15821; Thu, 31 May 2001 20:58:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:58:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004601c0ea35$cb352d40$05a86fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: <017701c0e879$2d7b0e20$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> <000d01c0e881$edcf87c0$6787abd4@LucaFormentini> <006501c0e8d4$a8fae6a0$e3ac6fd4@dolly> <00a501c0ea28$43cbe040$6e87abd4@LucaFormentini> Subject: Re: fx loop expander Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 01:41:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Luca, I used the cheapest pedals I could find since I was buying 4 of them. I found mine, (called "Lead Foot") in the Thomann catalogue for £13 each. I'm able to send all the CC values out of them (0-127) but I only use about 2/3 rds of the total travel. In other words the pot in them is the wrong resistance. It hasn't been a problem for me though I'll probably get around to replacing the pots one day. Ciao, Gareth > which kind of foot pedals are you using for CC ? > it's a pain to find the ones that can give the complete midi control change > ! > luca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 31 22:06:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA19119; Thu, 31 May 2001 22:03:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:03:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:53:13 -0400 From: Leander REININGHAUS Subject: Fw: serious (dormant!) virus! Sender: Leander REININGHAUS To: "UDELHOVEN" , Peter Andreas , "Gregor Arz" , Mike Ayers , "Paul Bailey" , Almut Barz , Frank Berressem , "Kimberlin Blackstone" , Jonathan Brainin , Walter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Br=FChn?= , Alessandro Bruno , Carol Callister , "lucie compton" , Solongo Damdin , Loopers Delight , Digigram , Kim Flint , Florian =?ISO-8859-1?Q?F=FCrst?= , Curt Golden , "Nicole B. Graham" , Jens Grattentaler , Asita Hamidi , Ralph Herrnkind , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=FCdiger?= Hoffmann , Tilmann =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=F6hn?= , Alan Hoover , Chris Jaeker , Heinrich von Kalnein , Uschi Laar , Vanessa Merg , Hernan Nunez , John Peters , Michael Peters , Philipp Quaet-Faslem , Abi von Reininghaus , Markus Reuter , Tony Rowell , Axel Rudolph , Hannsjoerg Scheid , Peter Spoecker , EGO SYStems , Tino , David Torn , Eduard =?ISO-8859-1?Q?T=FCske?= , MIchael Wack , Veit Wafzig , Kuno Wagner , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= Wirths , Frieder Zimmermann Message-ID: <200105312153_MC3-D3D7-79D2@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id WAA19066 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > > Dear friends, > we received the following mail and found the virus at our hard-disc in the > directory c:/windows/command/ > We have an active (software) virus-scanner!!! > > PLEASE CHECK YOUR HARDDISC!!! PROBABLY YOU RECEIVED THE VIRUS TOO!!! > > Good luck!!! > > > > >Subject: SERIOUS VIRUS > > > > > > > > >URGENT. A VIRUS could be in your computer files > > >> now, dormant but will become active on June 1. > > >> FOLLOW DIRECTIONS BELOW TO CHECK IF YOU HAVE IT > > >> AND TO REMOVE IT NOW. > > >> > > >> It was brought to my attention yesterday that a > > >> virus is in circulation via email. I looked for it > > >> and to my surprise I found it on mine. . > > >> > > >> Please follow the directions and remove it from > > >> yours TODAY!! > > >> > > >> No Virus software can detect it. It will become > > >> active on June 1, 2001. > > >> > > >> It might be too late by then. It wipes out all > > >> files and folders on the hard drive. This virus > > >> travels through E-mail and migrates to the > > >> > > >> 'C:\windows\command' folder. To find it and get > > >> rid of it off of your computer, do the following. > > >> > > >> Go to the "START" button. > > >> Go to "FIND" or "SEARCH" > > >> Go to "FILES & FOLDERS" > > >> Make sure the find box is searching the "C:" > > >> drive. > > >> Type in; SULFNBK.EXE > > >> Begin search. > > >> > > >> If it finds it, highlight it. > > >> Go to 'File' and delete it. > > >> Close the find Dialog box > > >> Open the Recycle Bin > > >> Find the file and delete it from the Recycle bin > > >> You should be safe. > > >> > > >> The bad part is: You need to contact everyone you > > >> have sent ANY E-mail to in the past few months. > > >> Many major companies have found this virus on > > >> their > > >> computers. Please help your friends !!!!!!!! > > >> > > >> DO NOT RELY ON YOUR ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE. McAFEE > > >> and > > >> NORTON CANNOT DETECT IT BECAUSE IT DOES NOT BECOME > > >> A VIRUS UNTIL JUNE 1ST. > > >> > > >> WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT OPEN THE FILE!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 31 22:15:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA19473; Thu, 31 May 2001 22:13:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:13:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010531221216.007bd5e0@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:12:16 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Fw: serious (dormant!) virus! In-Reply-To: <200105312153_MC3-D3D7-79D2@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ATTENTION! THIS IS A HOAX! It's a non-virus "virus", or rather, it's a prank that will result in your removing an essential Windows file if you follow the directions, and you'll have to re-install your operating system. My sister fell for it two days ago, and I heard the full report about the hoax this afternoon on NPR. Tim >At 09:53 PM 5/31/01 -0400, you wrote: > >> >> Dear friends, >> we received the following mail and found the virus at our hard-disc in >the >> directory c:/windows/command/ >> We have an active (software) virus-scanner!!! blah blah blah From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 31 22:15:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA19486; Thu, 31 May 2001 22:14:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:14:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3B16FAB4.5CF8654B@tapehissrecordings.com> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:15:16 -0400 From: Scott Carr Organization: Tapehiss Recordings X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-CCK-MCD BA45DSL (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: UDELHOVEN , Peter Andreas , Gregor Arz , Mike Ayers , Paul Bailey , Almut Barz , Frank Berressem , Kimberlin Blackstone , Jonathan Brainin , "Walter =?iso-8859-1?Q?Br=FChn?=" , Alessandro Bruno , Carol Callister , lucie compton , Solongo Damdin , Loopers Delight , Digigram , Kim Flint , "Florian =?iso-8859-1?Q?F=FCrst?=" , Curt Golden , "Nicole B. Graham" , Jens Grattentaler , Asita Hamidi , Ralph Herrnkind , "=?iso-8859-1?Q?R=FCdiger?= Hoffmann" , "Tilmann =?iso-8859-1?Q?H=F6hn?=" , Alan Hoover , Chris Jaeker , Heinrich von Kalnein , Uschi Laar , Vanessa Merg , Hernan Nunez , John Peters , Michael Peters , Philipp Quaet-Faslem , Abi von Reininghaus , Markus Reuter , Tony Rowell , Axel Rudolph , Hannsjoerg Scheid , Peter Spoecker , EGO SYStems , Tino , David Torn , "Eduard =?iso-8859-1?Q?T=FCske?=" , MIchael Wack , Veit Wafzig , Kuno Wagner , "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= Wirths" , Frieder Zimmermann Subject: Re: Fw: serious (dormant!) virus! (HOAX) References: <200105312153_MC3-D3D7-79D2@compuserve.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <4sHz6C.A.GwE.UpvF7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/sulfnbk.exe.warning.html Leander REININGHAUS wrote: > > > > > Dear friends, > > we received the following mail and found the virus at our hard-disc in > the > > directory c:/windows/command/ > > We have an active (software) virus-scanner!!! > > > > PLEASE CHECK YOUR HARDDISC!!! PROBABLY YOU RECEIVED THE VIRUS TOO!!! > > > > Good luck!!! > > > > > > > >Subject: SERIOUS VIRUS > > > > > > > > > > > >URGENT. A VIRUS could be in your computer files > > > >> now, dormant but will become active on June 1. > > > >> FOLLOW DIRECTIONS BELOW TO CHECK IF YOU HAVE IT > > > >> AND TO REMOVE IT NOW. > > > >> > > > >> It was brought to my attention yesterday that a > > > >> virus is in circulation via email. I looked for it > > > >> and to my surprise I found it on mine. . > > > >> > > > >> Please follow the directions and remove it from > > > >> yours TODAY!! > > > >> > > > >> No Virus software can detect it. It will become > > > >> active on June 1, 2001. > > > >> > > > >> It might be too late by then. It wipes out all > > > >> files and folders on the hard drive. This virus > > > >> travels through E-mail and migrates to the > > > >> > > > >> 'C:\windows\command' folder. To find it and get > > > >> rid of it off of your computer, do the following. > > > >> > > > >> Go to the "START" button. > > > >> Go to "FIND" or "SEARCH" > > > >> Go to "FILES & FOLDERS" > > > >> Make sure the find box is searching the "C:" > > > >> drive. > > > >> Type in; SULFNBK.EXE > > > >> Begin search. > > > >> > > > >> If it finds it, highlight it. > > > >> Go to 'File' and delete it. > > > >> Close the find Dialog box > > > >> Open the Recycle Bin > > > >> Find the file and delete it from the Recycle bin > > > >> You should be safe. > > > >> > > > >> The bad part is: You need to contact everyone you > > > >> have sent ANY E-mail to in the past few months. > > > >> Many major companies have found this virus on > > > >> their > > > >> computers. Please help your friends !!!!!!!! > > > >> > > > >> DO NOT RELY ON YOUR ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE. McAFEE > > > >> and > > > >> NORTON CANNOT DETECT IT BECAUSE IT DOES NOT BECOME > > > >> A VIRUS UNTIL JUNE 1ST. > > > >> > > > >> WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT OPEN THE FILE!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- ~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% Visit the the home of Hebephrenic, The Hot Buttered Elves, & Sunshine http://www.tapehissrecordings.com and our sites at the worlds largest online cut-out bin http://mp3.com/hotbutteredelves http://mp3.com/hebephrenica http://mp3.com/sunshineallthetime ~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~%~% From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 31 22:25:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA20281; Thu, 31 May 2001 22:23:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:23:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:22:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Burnett To: Cc: UDELHOVEN , Peter Andreas , Gregor Arz , Mike Ayers , Paul Bailey , Almut Barz , Frank Berressem , Kimberlin Blackstone , Jonathan Brainin , Walter =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Br=FChn?= , Alessandro Bruno , Carol Callister , lucie compton , Solongo Damdin , Loopers Delight , Digigram , Kim Flint , Florian =?ISO-8859-1?Q?F=FCrst?= , Curt Golden , "Nicole B. Graham" , Jens Grattentaler , Asita Hamidi , Ralph Herrnkind , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?R=FCdiger?= Hoffmann , Tilmann =?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=F6hn?= , Alan Hoover , Chris Jaeker , Heinrich von Kalnein , Uschi Laar , Vanessa Merg , Hernan Nunez , John Peters , Michael Peters , Philipp Quaet-Faslem , Abi von Reininghaus , Markus Reuter , Tony Rowell , Axel Rudolph , Hannsjoerg Scheid , Peter Spoecker , EGO SYStems , Tino , David Torn , Eduard =?ISO-8859-1?Q?T=FCske?= , MIchael Wack , Veit Wafzig , Kuno Wagner , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= Wirths , Frieder Zimmermann Subject: Re: Fw: serious (dormant!) virus! In-Reply-To: <200105312153_MC3-D3D7-79D2@compuserve.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a hoax. Details are here: http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/sulfnbk.exe.warning.html best, Steve >At 09:53 PM 5/31/01 -0400, you wrote: > >> >> Dear friends, >> we received the following mail and found the virus at our hard-disc in >the >> directory c:/windows/command/ >> We have an active (software) virus-scanner!!! -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Burnett Admin, webslingerZ sburnett@webslingerz.com http://www.webslingerz.com/sburnett From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 31 22:36:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA20664; Thu, 31 May 2001 22:35:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:35:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Paul A. Baugher" To: , "'UDELHOVEN'" , "'Peter Andreas'" , "'Gregor Arz'" , "'Mike Ayers'" , "'Paul Bailey'" , "'Almut Barz'" , "'Frank Berressem'" , "'Kimberlin Blackstone'" , "'Jonathan Brainin'" , "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'Walter_Br=FChn'?=" , "'Alessandro Bruno'" , "'Carol Callister'" , "'lucie compton'" , "'Solongo Damdin'" , "'Loopers Delight'" , "'Digigram'" , "'Kim Flint'" , "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'Florian_F=FCrst'?=" , "'Curt Golden'" , "'Nicole B. Graham'" , "'Jens Grattentaler'" , "'Asita Hamidi'" , "'Ralph Herrnkind'" , "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'R=FCdiger_Hoffmann'?=" , "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'Tilmann_H=F6hn'?=" , "'Alan Hoover'" , "'Chris Jaeker'" , "'Heinrich von Kalnein'" , "'Uschi Laar'" , "'Vanessa Merg'" , "'Hernan Nunez'" , "'John Peters'" , "'Michael Peters'" , "'Philipp Quaet-Faslem'" , "'Abi von Reininghaus'" , "'Markus Reuter'" , "'Tony Rowell'" , "'Axel Rudolph'" , "'Hannsjoerg Scheid'" , "'Peter Spoecker'" , "'EGO SYStems'" , "'Tino'" , "'David Torn'" , "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'Eduard_T=FCske'?=" , "'MIchael Wack'" , "'Veit Wafzig'" , "'Kuno Wagner'" , "=?iso-8859-1?Q?'Andr=E9_Wirths'?=" , "'Frieder Zimmermann'" Subject: RE: serious (dormant!) virus! Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:32:52 -0400 Message-ID: <001701c0ea43$28d9e190$5e00a8c0@athlon> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <200105312153_MC3-D3D7-79D2@compuserve.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <0wv9bB.A.qCF.R9vF7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com While your at it why don't you just type format c: at your dos prompt... there's a virus on your machine called Windows.... really.. don't listen to this, it's a hoax. -pb -----Original Message----- From: Leander REININGHAUS [mailto:LEALOOP@compuserve.com] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 9:53 PM To: UDELHOVEN; Peter Andreas; Gregor Arz; Mike Ayers; Paul Bailey; Almut Barz; Frank Berressem; Kimberlin Blackstone; Jonathan Brainin; Walter Brühn; Alessandro Bruno; Carol Callister; lucie compton; Solongo Damdin; Loopers Delight; Digigram; Kim Flint; Florian Fürst; Curt Golden; Nicole B. Graham; Jens Grattentaler; Asita Hamidi; Ralph Herrnkind; Rüdiger Hoffmann; Tilmann Höhn; Alan Hoover; Chris Jaeker; Heinrich von Kalnein; Uschi Laar; Vanessa Merg; Hernan Nunez; John Peters; Michael Peters; Philipp Quaet-Faslem; Abi von Reininghaus; Markus Reuter; Tony Rowell; Axel Rudolph; Hannsjoerg Scheid; Peter Spoecker; EGO SYStems; Tino; David Torn; Eduard Tüske; MIchael Wack; Veit Wafzig; Kuno Wagner; André Wirths; Frieder Zimmermann Subject: Fw: serious (dormant!) virus! > > Dear friends, > we received the following mail and found the virus at our hard-disc in the > directory c:/windows/command/ > We have an active (software) virus-scanner!!! > > PLEASE CHECK YOUR HARDDISC!!! PROBABLY YOU RECEIVED THE VIRUS TOO!!! > > Good luck!!! > > > > >Subject: SERIOUS VIRUS > > > > > > > > >URGENT. A VIRUS could be in your computer files > > >> now, dormant but will become active on June 1. > > >> FOLLOW DIRECTIONS BELOW TO CHECK IF YOU HAVE IT > > >> AND TO REMOVE IT NOW. > > >> > > >> It was brought to my attention yesterday that a > > >> virus is in circulation via email. I looked for it > > >> and to my surprise I found it on mine. . > > >> > > >> Please follow the directions and remove it from > > >> yours TODAY!! > > >> > > >> No Virus software can detect it. It will become > > >> active on June 1, 2001. > > >> > > >> It might be too late by then. It wipes out all > > >> files and folders on the hard drive. This virus > > >> travels through E-mail and migrates to the > > >> > > >> 'C:\windows\command' folder. To find it and get > > >> rid of it off of your computer, do the following. > > >> > > >> Go to the "START" button. > > >> Go to "FIND" or "SEARCH" > > >> Go to "FILES & FOLDERS" > > >> Make sure the find box is searching the "C:" > > >> drive. > > >> Type in; SULFNBK.EXE > > >> Begin search. > > >> > > >> If it finds it, highlight it. > > >> Go to 'File' and delete it. > > >> Close the find Dialog box > > >> Open the Recycle Bin > > >> Find the file and delete it from the Recycle bin > > >> You should be safe. > > >> > > >> The bad part is: You need to contact everyone you > > >> have sent ANY E-mail to in the past few months. > > >> Many major companies have found this virus on > > >> their > > >> computers. Please help your friends !!!!!!!! > > >> > > >> DO NOT RELY ON YOUR ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE. McAFEE > > >> and > > >> NORTON CANNOT DETECT IT BECAUSE IT DOES NOT BECOME > > >> A VIRUS UNTIL JUNE 1ST. > > >> > > >> WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT OPEN THE FILE!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 31 22:41:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA20856; Thu, 31 May 2001 22:39:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:39:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000501c0ea55$8d637880$0300a8c0@txucom.net> Reply-To: "Tom Peirce Baker" From: "Tom Peirce Baker" To: References: <001701c0ea43$28d9e190$5e00a8c0@athlon> Subject: Re: serious (dormant!) virus! Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:44:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com What is this file? ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul A. Baugher To: ; 'UDELHOVEN' ; 'Peter Andreas' ; 'Gregor Arz' ; 'Mike Ayers' ; 'Paul Bailey' ; 'Almut Barz' ; 'Frank Berressem' ; 'Kimberlin Blackstone' ; 'Jonathan Brainin' ; 'Walter Brühn' ; 'Alessandro Bruno' ; 'Carol Callister' ; 'lucie compton' ; 'Solongo Damdin' ; 'Loopers Delight' ; 'Digigram' ; 'Kim Flint' ; 'Florian Fürst' ; 'Curt Golden' ; 'Nicole B. Graham' ; 'Jens Grattenta Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 7:32 PM Subject: RE: serious (dormant!) virus! > While your at it why don't you just type format c: at your dos prompt... > there's a virus on your machine called Windows.... really.. don't listen to > this, it's a hoax. > > -pb > > -----Original Message----- > From: Leander REININGHAUS [mailto:LEALOOP@compuserve.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 9:53 PM > To: UDELHOVEN; Peter Andreas; Gregor Arz; Mike Ayers; Paul Bailey; Almut > Barz; Frank Berressem; Kimberlin Blackstone; Jonathan Brainin; Walter > Brühn; Alessandro Bruno; Carol Callister; lucie compton; Solongo Damdin; > Loopers Delight; Digigram; Kim Flint; Florian Fürst; Curt Golden; Nicole > B. Graham; Jens Grattentaler; Asita Hamidi; Ralph Herrnkind; Rüdiger > Hoffmann; Tilmann Höhn; Alan Hoover; Chris Jaeker; Heinrich von Kalnein; > Uschi Laar; Vanessa Merg; Hernan Nunez; John Peters; Michael Peters; > Philipp Quaet-Faslem; Abi von Reininghaus; Markus Reuter; Tony Rowell; > Axel Rudolph; Hannsjoerg Scheid; Peter Spoecker; EGO SYStems; Tino; > David Torn; Eduard Tüske; MIchael Wack; Veit Wafzig; Kuno Wagner; André > Wirths; Frieder Zimmermann > Subject: Fw: serious (dormant!) virus! > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > we received the following mail and found the virus at our hard-disc in > the > > directory c:/windows/command/ > > We have an active (software) virus-scanner!!! > > > > PLEASE CHECK YOUR HARDDISC!!! PROBABLY YOU RECEIVED THE VIRUS TOO!!! > > > > Good luck!!! > > > > > > > >Subject: SERIOUS VIRUS > > > > > > > > > > > >URGENT. A VIRUS could be in your computer files > > > >> now, dormant but will become active on June 1. > > > >> FOLLOW DIRECTIONS BELOW TO CHECK IF YOU HAVE IT > > > >> AND TO REMOVE IT NOW. > > > >> > > > >> It was brought to my attention yesterday that a > > > >> virus is in circulation via email. I looked for it > > > >> and to my surprise I found it on mine. . > > > >> > > > >> Please follow the directions and remove it from > > > >> yours TODAY!! > > > >> > > > >> No Virus software can detect it. It will become > > > >> active on June 1, 2001. > > > >> > > > >> It might be too late by then. It wipes out all > > > >> files and folders on the hard drive. This virus > > > >> travels through E-mail and migrates to the > > > >> > > > >> 'C:\windows\command' folder. To find it and get > > > >> rid of it off of your computer, do the following. > > > >> > > > >> Go to the "START" button. > > > >> Go to "FIND" or "SEARCH" > > > >> Go to "FILES & FOLDERS" > > > >> Make sure the find box is searching the "C:" > > > >> drive. > > > >> Type in; SULFNBK.EXE > > > >> Begin search. > > > >> > > > >> If it finds it, highlight it. > > > >> Go to 'File' and delete it. > > > >> Close the find Dialog box > > > >> Open the Recycle Bin > > > >> Find the file and delete it from the Recycle bin > > > >> You should be safe. > > > >> > > > >> The bad part is: You need to contact everyone you > > > >> have sent ANY E-mail to in the past few months. > > > >> Many major companies have found this virus on > > > >> their > > > >> computers. Please help your friends !!!!!!!! > > > >> > > > >> DO NOT RELY ON YOUR ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE. McAFEE > > > >> and > > > >> NORTON CANNOT DETECT IT BECAUSE IT DOES NOT BECOME > > > >> A VIRUS UNTIL JUNE 1ST. > > > >> > > > >> WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT OPEN THE FILE!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 31 22:42:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA20902; Thu, 31 May 2001 22:40:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 22:40:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000d01c0ea55$b3985ac0$0300a8c0@txucom.net> Reply-To: "Tom Peirce Baker" From: "Tom Peirce Baker" To: References: <001701c0ea43$28d9e190$5e00a8c0@athlon> Subject: Re: serious (dormant!) virus! Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 21:45:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <4qS_IB.A.WGF.VCwF7@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com doh! nevermind ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul A. Baugher To: ; 'UDELHOVEN' ; 'Peter Andreas' ; 'Gregor Arz' ; 'Mike Ayers' ; 'Paul Bailey' ; 'Almut Barz' ; 'Frank Berressem' ; 'Kimberlin Blackstone' ; 'Jonathan Brainin' ; 'Walter Brühn' ; 'Alessandro Bruno' ; 'Carol Callister' ; 'lucie compton' ; 'Solongo Damdin' ; 'Loopers Delight' ; 'Digigram' ; 'Kim Flint' ; 'Florian Fürst' ; 'Curt Golden' ; 'Nicole B. Graham' ; 'Jens Grattenta Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 7:32 PM Subject: RE: serious (dormant!) virus! > While your at it why don't you just type format c: at your dos prompt... > there's a virus on your machine called Windows.... really.. don't listen to > this, it's a hoax. > > -pb > > -----Original Message----- > From: Leander REININGHAUS [mailto:LEALOOP@compuserve.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 9:53 PM > To: UDELHOVEN; Peter Andreas; Gregor Arz; Mike Ayers; Paul Bailey; Almut > Barz; Frank Berressem; Kimberlin Blackstone; Jonathan Brainin; Walter > Brühn; Alessandro Bruno; Carol Callister; lucie compton; Solongo Damdin; > Loopers Delight; Digigram; Kim Flint; Florian Fürst; Curt Golden; Nicole > B. Graham; Jens Grattentaler; Asita Hamidi; Ralph Herrnkind; Rüdiger > Hoffmann; Tilmann Höhn; Alan Hoover; Chris Jaeker; Heinrich von Kalnein; > Uschi Laar; Vanessa Merg; Hernan Nunez; John Peters; Michael Peters; > Philipp Quaet-Faslem; Abi von Reininghaus; Markus Reuter; Tony Rowell; > Axel Rudolph; Hannsjoerg Scheid; Peter Spoecker; EGO SYStems; Tino; > David Torn; Eduard Tüske; MIchael Wack; Veit Wafzig; Kuno Wagner; André > Wirths; Frieder Zimmermann > Subject: Fw: serious (dormant!) virus! > > > > > > > Dear friends, > > we received the following mail and found the virus at our hard-disc in > the > > directory c:/windows/command/ > > We have an active (software) virus-scanner!!! > > > > PLEASE CHECK YOUR HARDDISC!!! PROBABLY YOU RECEIVED THE VIRUS TOO!!! > > > > Good luck!!! > > > > > > > >Subject: SERIOUS VIRUS > > > > > > > > > > > >URGENT. A VIRUS could be in your computer files > > > >> now, dormant but will become active on June 1. > > > >> FOLLOW DIRECTIONS BELOW TO CHECK IF YOU HAVE IT > > > >> AND TO REMOVE IT NOW. > > > >> > > > >> It was brought to my attention yesterday that a > > > >> virus is in circulation via email. I looked for it > > > >> and to my surprise I found it on mine. . > > > >> > > > >> Please follow the directions and remove it from > > > >> yours TODAY!! > > > >> > > > >> No Virus software can detect it. It will become > > > >> active on June 1, 2001. > > > >> > > > >> It might be too late by then. It wipes out all > > > >> files and folders on the hard drive. This virus > > > >> travels through E-mail and migrates to the > > > >> > > > >> 'C:\windows\command' folder. To find it and get > > > >> rid of it off of your computer, do the following. > > > >> > > > >> Go to the "START" button. > > > >> Go to "FIND" or "SEARCH" > > > >> Go to "FILES & FOLDERS" > > > >> Make sure the find box is searching the "C:" > > > >> drive. > > > >> Type in; SULFNBK.EXE > > > >> Begin search. > > > >> > > > >> If it finds it, highlight it. > > > >> Go to 'File' and delete it. > > > >> Close the find Dialog box > > > >> Open the Recycle Bin > > > >> Find the file and delete it from the Recycle bin > > > >> You should be safe. > > > >> > > > >> The bad part is: You need to contact everyone you > > > >> have sent ANY E-mail to in the past few months. > > > >> Many major companies have found this virus on > > > >> their > > > >> computers. Please help your friends !!!!!!!! > > > >> > > > >> DO NOT RELY ON YOUR ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE. McAFEE > > > >> and > > > >> NORTON CANNOT DETECT IT BECAUSE IT DOES NOT BECOME > > > >> A VIRUS UNTIL JUNE 1ST. > > > >> > > > >> WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT OPEN THE FILE!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu May 31 23:59:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA23431; Thu, 31 May 2001 23:57:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 23:57:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00f001c0ea4f$02810620$d842f93f@global> From: "Rick Walker \(loop.pool\)" To: References: <200106010017.UAA14968@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: looped jaw harp and kazoo? Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 20:57:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/7345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Denis taaffe wrote to Simran Gleason: "yes, but it can't be cool if you don't have a jaw harp and kazzoo quintet to back you up ?! haha,seriously, good luck with gig, whish I could be there to hear some looping..." Funny you should mention this, Denis: I just did the opening/closing (I played the crowd in and out in the foyer) slot for the brilliant Residents multi media show at the Rio Theatre in Santa Cruz this last Saturday and, in one of the pieces that pleased me the most (best to please oneself, eh?) . I ran a concert pitched D hungarian jaw harp and ran it through one of those old red Digitech Harmonizing Whammy Pedals, pitched down one octave, to create my rhythmic loop. Over it, I used a low pitched irish tin whistle, also pitched down an octave which I then gutterally hummed an octave lower melody as I blew the same melody whistle for my 'lead'. That Digitech is really archaic and really inhibits fidelity, but, in this case it came out sounding really, really cool. You would have never known what instruments I used, initially and I have the wonderful added option of sweeping the footpedal form one octave below to normal pitch, which produced some really beautiful and mysterious sounding artifacts. Who needs analogue synth 'bubbles'? Sorry, no kazoo, unfortunately (though I have used one in a faux industrial looping experiments, previously). Anyone ever catch the MTV unplugged CURE show where they let three of the bands fans sing the horn parts on kazoos for the song "Love Cats"? Priceless!!!! P.C. checkin: Is it o.k. to admit to loving the early Cure on loopers delight?

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