From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 1 03:44:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA04603; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 03:42:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 03:42:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001401c0ba7f$0f7ae8a0$6d886fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: <002a01c0b9fc$51cc1400$17934e0c@u73x0> <3AC62398.65E19691@pacific.net> Subject: Re: droning questions Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 08:40:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6004 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hah :) Great minds think alike. Gareth > > For years I've had the wish to add sympathetic strings to the guitar. The way > I'd imagined this being done would be to use two guitars. The first would have > some sort of pickup for the six (or however many you have !) strings. This > signal would then be fed to another guitar - I think an old acoustic would work > well here - maybe a 12-string. This is where my idea needs work, but maybe the > Sustainiac string driver could be adapted. The sound from the first guitar is > applied to the strings of the second one in a controlled way in order to produce > sympathetic vibrations - I'd originally thought of doing this by fitting the > guitar with an internal speaker of some kind, but a transducer such as the > sustainiac or a conventional pickup (fed from a preamp) may be persuaded to work > in reverse. The sound of the sympathetic strings could then be mixed with the > sound from the first guitar using a conventional pickup on the second guitar. > The advantage of this setup is that you have a greater range of tuning for the > longer sympathetic strings, and you can also adjust their volume with respect to > the main signal. I have a feeling that the original Coral Sitar Guitar relied on > the strings vibrating using the resonance (?) of the solid body of the guitar. > This would probably work if you were standing next to a 200w stack (which would > set the guitar and your internal organs resonating), but I doubt if they create > any sort of discernible sound in most other situations - I've never played one, > but I imagine that this is the case. > As with a lot of my ideas, this has languished without being put into practice, > mainly because of the need for a suitable string driver in the second guitar. If > anybody has any suggestions as to how this could be achieved, I would be very > interested ! > > John Mcleod > > > James Pokorny wrote: > > > Gareth wrote: > > >there was a thing calling itself an electric sitar with 12 sympathetic > > >strings under a Perspex cover and a sitar type bridge. > > > > >Tuning of the extra strings was done with a sort of autoharp/dulcimer key. > > > > I've seen this type of guitar and have to chime in (pun fully intended) that > > these type of strings are not truly sympathetic strings. That is, they > > don't really resonate when the main strings are plucked. I think the > > intention of that design is to imitate the multiple strings of the sitar. > > However, when they're located too far from the main playing strings they > > won't begin to vibrate spontaneously from the sound of the main strings. My > > feeling is that they're included on this type of instrument to simulate the > > tinkling, cascading zither-like sound called "jhankar" that we associate > > with the rapid brushing of the sitar's sympathetic strings. As an aside, > > this sound used to be exclusively a "tuning check" of these strings and was > > never incorporated into the actual music itself until Pandit Ravi Shankar > > began using it as a sort of punctuation device between phrases or sections > > of the raga's development. > > > > >Another type of guitar ran the sympathetic strings at an angle to the main > > >guitar strings and under them, where they intersected. It had a protruding > > >pseudo-neck coming out at an angle along which the sympathetic strings > > >ran. > > > > This instrument sounds as though the additional strings really would work > > "sympathetically" due to their resting beneath the main strings. I'm not > > really sure how effective this would all be on an electric instrument, > > though, since the pickup would essentially replace the resonator. I have > > half a dozen traditional "ethnic" instruments that use sympathetic strings > > and of course, they're all purely acoustic. Most have very thin wooden > > faces that emphasize a bright sound and rich harmonics, and some of them > > have skin-covered resonators, which also really liven and expand the sound > > (think banjo vs guitar). My Indian instruments (sitar, surbahar, dilruba) > > also have specific "twanging" bridges for the sympathetic strings that > > increase their resonance. I've found that on some of these instruments it's > > taken a long time (up to 5 years) for the instruments to 'warm up' enough > > that the sympathetic strings really begin to "speak." I feel that this is > > due to the density of the wood in the neck along which they run, underneath > > the main strings. So I wonder how well sympathetic strings would vibrate in > > the absence of a resonator? > > > > Anyway, my 2 "cents" [monetary, not tuning intervals :-) ] > > > > James > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 1 03:46:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA04475; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 03:36:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 03:36:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000001c0ba7e$205bb2e0$6d886fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: <002a01c0b9fc$51cc1400$17934e0c@u73x0> Subject: Re: droning questions Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 18:46:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6003 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com That's one of the models I saw. >That's the exact arrangement of the original Danelectro Vinnie Bell Coral >electric sitar, and subsequently the version made by Jerry Jones that was >based on it, which you can see at >. > Interesting - Some sort of sustainiac arrangement where the source pitches came from the main fret board but the driver exited the sympathetic strings could be fruitful. Quick, patent it : ) Gareth > I've seen this type of guitar and have to chime in (pun fully intended) that > these type of strings are not truly sympathetic strings. That is, they > don't really resonate when the main strings are plucked. I think the > intention of that design is to imitate the multiple strings of the sitar. > However, when they're located too far from the main playing strings they > won't begin to vibrate spontaneously from the sound of the main strings. My > feeling is that they're included on this type of instrument to simulate the > tinkling, cascading zither-like sound called "jhankar" that we associate > with the rapid brushing of the sitar's sympathetic strings. As an aside, > this sound used to be exclusively a "tuning check" of these strings and was > never incorporated into the actual music itself until Pandit Ravi Shankar > began using it as a sort of punctuation device between phrases or sections > of the raga's development. > > >Another type of guitar ran the sympathetic strings at an angle to the main > >guitar strings and under them, where they intersected. It had a protruding > >pseudo-neck coming out at an angle along which the sympathetic strings > >ran. > > This instrument sounds as though the additional strings really would work > "sympathetically" due to their resting beneath the main strings. I'm not > really sure how effective this would all be on an electric instrument, > though, since the pickup would essentially replace the resonator. I have > half a dozen traditional "ethnic" instruments that use sympathetic strings > and of course, they're all purely acoustic. Most have very thin wooden > faces that emphasize a bright sound and rich harmonics, and some of them > have skin-covered resonators, which also really liven and expand the sound > (think banjo vs guitar). My Indian instruments (sitar, surbahar, dilruba) > also have specific "twanging" bridges for the sympathetic strings that > increase their resonance. I've found that on some of these instruments it's > taken a long time (up to 5 years) for the instruments to 'warm up' enough > that the sympathetic strings really begin to "speak." I feel that this is > due to the density of the wood in the neck along which they run, underneath > the main strings. So I wonder how well sympathetic strings would vibrate in > the absence of a resonator? > > Anyway, my 2 "cents" [monetary, not tuning intervals :-) ] > > James > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 1 05:29:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA07212; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 05:20:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 05:20:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <01C0BA9D.7711A210.mpeters@csi.com> From: Michael Peters Reply-To: "mpeters@csi.com" To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: AW: MMM Splatter cell? Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 11:18:03 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 520050239610-0001@t-dialin.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6005 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > MMM Splatter cell? > It may hve been covered already... but any advice on this ? > Olivier Malhomme Are you talking about David Torn's CD Splattercell? If you like David's more recent music, you'll love this CD. He's getting more experimental and creative every time. I love this record. = michael peters = electronic music & strange attractors = http://www.mpeters.de/mpeweb From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 1 11:51:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA11270; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 11:48:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 11:48:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <34.13183399.27f8a79a@aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 11:47:38 EDT Subject: HAPPY BIRTHDAY To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, CT-Collective@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_34.13183399.27f8a79a_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: <1WviHB.A.VtC.820x6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6006 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_34.13183399.27f8a79a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HAPPY BIRTHDAY to the folks at CT-PROJECT.....2 years and 13 CDs later.....way to go!.....thanks for the music.....michael --part1_34.13183399.27f8a79a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HAPPY BIRTHDAY to the folks at CT-PROJECT.....2 years and 13 CDs
later.....way to go!.....thanks for the music.....michael --part1_34.13183399.27f8a79a_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 1 13:20:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA12671; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 13:18:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 13:18:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SConner100@aol.com Message-ID: <35.12ee1622.27f8bc89@aol.com> Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 13:16:57 EDT Subject: Oberheim DPX-1..... To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 130 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6007 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I work in a store that has a broken Oberheim DPX-1. Not sure what's wrong with it though. The question I have is; is this unit worth getting and having fixed? I'll be getting it for practically nothing. Also, if it's worth getting fixed, who could do that kind of work? Are there any modifications that can be made to the unit? Any and all help is greatly appreciated. THANX!!!!! Later, Scott From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 1 13:25:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13020; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 13:24:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 13:24:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: cave@pop1.osk.3web.ne.jp X-Mailer: Macintosh Eudora Pro Version 4.2.1-J Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:23:35 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sunao Inami Subject: "Looper's Delight J" update Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6008 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Loopers, "Looper's Delight J" web page updated. http://www.cavestudio.com/LD_J/2001/ We got about 15 loops via FTP for our gig. Please mail me if you did upload it. I don't know who did upload of some loops. I want to add uploader's name for our web page when we finished "Looper's Delight J". Regards Sunao Inami http://www.cavestudio.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 1 16:07:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA16115; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 16:04:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 16:04:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 12:55:31 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: trading samples In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6009 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 12:07 PM +0000 3/28/01, Robert Eberwein wrote: >I'd like to suggest that, righteous indignation aside, all copy >write laws will be coming into question soon. Actually, that's "copyright," in other words "the right to copy." I sympathize with your feelings about lawyers and galleries, though I would take the argument in a different direction. I think that since unique art works can be such profitable commodities, it seems only fair that the artist should participate in the profits from resale. Why should a painter who originally bartered a work to pay off his bar tab not receive a cut when that same painting sells at auction for $500,000 a few years down the line? >The idea that the *artist* has only allowed 235 to be made- and shut >the negative away, is about as bogus a notion as has been conceived. If you believe that the idea of tying value to scarcity is bogus, then I think you'd have to agree that capitalism is equally bogus. Destroying the lithograph stone is equivalent to OPEC's limiting oil production to drive prices up. >nothing in my code of ethics tells me that I can not give my >cakewalk discs to my drummer. Hearing people call that *theft* gets >my goat... Once I buy Cakewalk it's mine. When you buy a software license you are under legal contract NOT to give away or sell the software. If you violate that contract you are either a liar for agreeing to something you never intended to honor, or you are a thief. Of course, you've declared that you live by your own code of ethics that places you above the copyright law, so none of that should matter to you. A software program such as Cakewalk is a professional tool that took many programmer-years and considerable financial investment to develop. It's not some bit of aesthetic inspiration floating freely on the breezes of collective creativity. Companies need to sell these programs to stay in business, and since the market is of limited size and increasing competitiveness it really does hurt when sales are diminished by software theft. I didn't really care about these things until I started to work with software companies, but when I saw the real impact on real people I woke up. For example: A few years ago the leading program for sound editing on the Macintosh was Alchemy by Blank Software. The company was tiny; when I knew them there were only four people. Like most music software Alchemy was copy-protected, though the number of key disk installations was generous compared to some. Also, like most copy-protected software, a cracked version began to make the rounds. The program was very popular, but sales continued to decline. I remember talking to their marketing director at a trade show and being told that in that month they had sold NO copies of Alchemy! A few months later the main programmer quit, and shortly after that the program was sold to a larger company, Passport Designs. Passport took the copy protection off, but rather than generating good will and greater sales the product tanked. It was discontinued soon thereafter. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD zvonar@zvonar.com (818) 788-2202 voice zvonar@LCSaudio.com (818) 788-2203 fax zvonar@well.com http://www.zvonar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 1 16:22:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA16482; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 16:14:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 16:14:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 13:10:38 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Loopers Delight station on Live365.com In-reply-to: <00af01c0b890$c8042490$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <006d01c0b883$b03f2a10$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> <008d01c0b887$a85b8600$6b44230a@mlameyer02> <00af01c0b890$c8042490$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6010 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have set up a Loopers Delight station on Live365.com. The name of the station is "Loopers Delight" and it will be streaming 24/7 at 32 Kpbs as soon as enough material has been uploaded. I don't have time to do all the uploading myself, so in the spirit of collaboration I propose that we open up the management of the station to all interested parties. Write to me directly and I'll give you the password. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD zvonar@zvonar.com (818) 788-2202 voice zvonar@LCSaudio.com (818) 788-2203 fax zvonar@well.com http://www.zvonar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 1 17:07:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA17520; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:03:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:03:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 13:53:14 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Fwd: Sloof Lirpa Vocal Processor X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, eventide-users@egroups.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6011 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 10:10:07 -0400 >From: Ned Bouhalassa >Subject: Sloof Lirpa Vocal Processor >Sender: owner-cecdiscuss@concordia.ca >To: CECDiscuss > > >WOW! Forget Bell Labs, check this out: > >http://www.harmony-central.com/Newp/2001/SAP-1.html -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD zvonar@zvonar.com (818) 788-2202 voice zvonar@LCSaudio.com (818) 788-2203 fax zvonar@well.com http://www.zvonar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 1 19:18:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA20098; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 19:14:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 19:14:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002401c0bb00$6b0d4600$5f676ec3@abu10784> From: "Massimo Liverani" To: Subject: A guitarloop work. Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 01:06:37 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0021_01C0BB11.2AF34CC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6012 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C0BB11.2AF34CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! I'm always been actracted by looping sounds since the first time = that i heard it. - Frippertronics (in 1979) I'm 40 and I play guitar. After having spent a whole year to find a = jam-man i did found it. (and also a Vortex !)=20 I live in Italy (Florence) and for italian people looping music is not = very popular. :-( I've made a CD using a setup composed by Jam-man, Vortex, = ElectroHamonics microsintesizer. Me and other 2 guitarist are going to do a looping live perfomance here = in Florence with 3 Jam-man all conncected together with natural sounds = noises, etc etc. Are you interested to listen the CD and support the live = perfomance?...not with money! :-)=20 If you want i can send a copy. Bye and long live looping-music and loopingdelight! MaX ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C0BB11.2AF34CC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi! I'm always been actracted by looping sounds since the first = time that i=20 heard it. - Frippertronics (in 1979)
I'm 40 and I play guitar. After having spent a whole year to find a = jam-man=20 i did found it. (and also a Vortex !)
I live in Italy (Florence) and for italian people looping music is = not very=20 popular. :-(
I've made a CD using a setup composed by  Jam-man, Vortex,=20 ElectroHamonics microsintesizer.
Me and other 2 guitarist are going to do a looping live perfomance = here in=20 Florence with 3 Jam-man all conncected together with natural sounds = noises, etc=20 etc.
Are you interested to listen the CD and support  the live=20 perfomance?...not with money! :-)
If you want i can send a copy.
Bye and long live looping-music and loopingdelight!
MaX
 
------=_NextPart_000_0021_01C0BB11.2AF34CC0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 1 20:04:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA20884; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 20:00:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 20:00:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000d01c0bb08$6e5e9a40$11624442@austin.rr.com> From: "Jimmy George" To: References: Subject: Traveling Tips Need ... Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 19:04:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6013 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hello fellow loopers. i am trying to find the best cheapest and most reliably safe way to get me and my equipment from here, austin texas, to there, new york, and back for some shows in may of this year. grey hound looks to be the best at 300 round trip. the luggage will consist of one large duffle equipment bag at 70 lbs one amp (johnson mill stereo 150) at 72 lbs one clothes duffle bag say er .. 30 lbs or so and my two carry on kinscherff acoustic guitars in their reunion blues gig bags. both the amp, equipment duffle and guitars are very fragile. any input with traveling tips is mucho appreciated. also i have a few shows booked and am still looking for other ny venues that would house my looping performance appropriately. here is a snippet of my looping bio to give you an idea of the show itself. its sounds are reminiscent of peter gabrial, king crimson and bobby mcfarren. "Jimmy George's current 'Looping Extravaganza Show' combines his acoustic guitar and vocal virtuosity with a state of the art electronics invention allowing him to 'real time sample' his guitar and voice into a foot-controlled recorder. He then layers numerous other guitar and vocal parts into his initial Loop thus creating beautiful, and at times one of a kind, compositions live before your very eyes and ears! Nothing is prerecorded. As you listen know that you are hearing the show as one person was playing it. You really have to see it to believe it!" thanks to all. and thanks for your commitment and continuous antics in the world of loopers delight! special thanx to kim! peace jimmy george http://www.jimmygeorgearts.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 1 20:53:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA21768; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 20:49:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 20:49:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Anthony.Hancock@ing.com.au X-Lotus-FromDomain: ING-MM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <4A256A22.0004331F.00@ingsydhog2.mercantilemutual.com.au> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:46:49 +1000 Subject: Re: droning questions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <0DoB1D.A.SRF._x8x6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6014 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Here's what I use for a sitar type - very loosely meaning. try either a Electro Harmonix Electris Mistress Flanger set it matrix mode. it is a flanger sound without the sweep (movement) also you could try some of the resonator patches on a digitech xp300 space station ....like steel drum sounds... hope this gives you some options. Regards, Anthony From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 09:51:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA13359; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:47:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:47:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 14:46:54 +0100 Subject: Re: A guitarloop work. From: roberto To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <002401c0bb00$6b0d4600$5f676ec3@abu10784> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id JAA13245 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6015 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > on 2/4/01 12:06 AM, Massimo Liverani at massliv@dada.it wrote: > > Hi! I'm always been actracted by looping sounds since the first time that i > heard it. - Frippertronics (in 1979) > I'm 40 and I play guitar. After having spent a whole year to find a jam-man i > did found it. (and also a Vortex !) > I live in Italy (Florence) and for italian people looping music is not very > popular. :-( > I've made a CD using a setup composed by Jam-man, Vortex, ElectroHamonics > microsintesizer. > Me and other 2 guitarist are going to do a looping live perfomance here in > Florence with 3 Jam-man all conncected together with natural sounds noises, > etc etc. > Are you interested to listen the CD and support the live perfomance?...not > with money! :-) > If you want i can send a copy. > Bye and long live looping-music and loopingdelight! > MaX > Coincidenze.. Ho 44 anni, sono un chitarrista (Italiano anche se vivo in Inghilterra) e ho cominciato a suonare looped guitars molti anni fa dopo aver sentito i primi esperimenti di Fripp. Ho un piccola casa di distribuzione di musica "insolita" su Internet, se mi mandi una copia del tuo CD magari posso includerlo nel catalogo. Il sito è in via di completo rifacimento perchè è cresciuto troppo e la pagina catalogo con i campioni musicali dai vari cd è diventata lenta. Tra un paio di settimane il nuovo sito, con molti nuovi CD e la possibilità di pagare con carta di credito, sarà attivato. Dai un'occhiata a com'è al momento e se ti sembra adatto mandami una copia dei tuoi lavori e vediamo se riesco a vendertene un po'. http://www.rustyrobot.com il mio indirizzo postale è: Roberto Battista 57 Great North Road Barnet, Herts EN5 1AY Inghilterra ______________________________________________ Roberto Battista http://www.robat.scl.net http://www.robat.scl.net/lectures/index.shtm Tel. 0044 020 8449 1995 Mobile 0775 960 4344 ______________________________________________ http://www.rustyrobot.com independent on-line music distribution, the music you can't find elsewhere, contemporary classical, eclectic, world... ______________________________________________ http://www.robat.scl.net/html/tibet/tibet.shtm an exciting project on technology applied to mobile education for developing countries and remote locations... ______________________________________________ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 10:38:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15782; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:34:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:34:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000f01c0bb81$a69790a0$7eac6fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: <002401c0bb00$6b0d4600$5f676ec3@abu10784> Subject: Re: A guitarloop work. Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 06:29:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6016 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey Max, When is the performance? Wouldn't it be better to post up an MP3 of your CD? I'd be keen to hear it. Ciao, Gareth Me and other 2 guitarist are going to do a looping live performance here in Florence with 3 Jam-man all conncected together with natural sounds noises, etc etc. Are you interested to listen the CD and support the live perfomance?...not with money! :-) If you want i can send a copy. Bye and long live looping-music and loopingdelight! MaX From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 10:41:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15932; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:39:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:39:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 09:34:15 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: trading samples To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <064301c0bb81$fe4c4340$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 References: X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com From: "Richard Zvonar" > > I sympathize with your feelings about lawyers and galleries, though I > would take the argument in a different direction. I think that since > unique art works can be such profitable commodities, it seems only > fair that the artist should participate in the profits from resale. > Why should a painter who originally bartered a work to pay off his > bar tab not receive a cut when that same painting sells at auction > for $500,000 a few years down the line? > what if it is actually worth $0 a few years down the line? this is, in fact, the most likely outcome... does he have to pay his bar tab plus interest? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 10:43:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15793; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:35:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:35:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001001c0bb81$a73f6960$7eac6fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: Subject: Re: Leslie cabinet Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 06:40:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi guys, I've managed to get my hands on the guts of a leslie cabinet recently and have been expermenting with it. With the speed on slow, loops, (especially drones) sound incredible. The effect is quite beautiful. It really does sound like the sound is rotating. It's a more tangible effect than chorus, flanging etc. I've found that adding the effect to my normal stereo speaker setup gives a sutle movement to the sound. I'll be using this live from now on - yet another box to carry ! Is anyone else using leslies ? I have access to another so I'll be hooking that one up soon : ) Gareth From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 10:57:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA16525; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:54:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:54:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Wjguitar@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:52:10 EDT Subject: Re: Leslie cabinet To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_be.123ac0c1.27f9ec1a_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10523 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_be.123ac0c1.27f9ec1a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been using a Leslie Speakers as an extension speaker...Most recently I picked up a Motion Sound amp which has the Leslie rotating speaker concept built in it....sounds awesome. I drive the unit with an Ultrasound acoustic guitar amp as the primary amp and the Motion sound as the secondary amp....big sound! Using the flamenco guitar with RMC pickups as the tone source. Since the RMC's drive a Roland synth, too....I can run the synth output directly to a separate channel in the Motion Sound Amp. Regards, Wayne --part1_be.123ac0c1.27f9ec1a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been using a Leslie Speakers as an extension speaker...Most recently I
picked up a Motion Sound amp which has the Leslie rotating speaker concept
built in it....sounds awesome.

I drive the unit with an Ultrasound acoustic guitar amp as the primary amp
and the Motion sound as the secondary amp....big sound!  Using the flamenco
guitar with RMC pickups as the tone source.  Since the RMC's drive a Roland
synth, too....I can run the synth output directly to a separate channel in
the Motion Sound Amp.  

Regards, Wayne

--part1_be.123ac0c1.27f9ec1a_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 11:43:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18537; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:39:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:39:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 08:36:45 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , , Subject: Re: [CT-Collective] HAPPY BIRTHDAY Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id LAA18364 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is just too cool... Happy birthday everyone! -Miko >>> nemoguitt@aol.com 04/01/01 08:47AM >>> HAPPY BIRTHDAY to the folks at CT-PROJECT.....2 years and 13 CDs later.....way to go!.....thanks for the music.....michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 11:56:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA19102; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:53:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:53:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 08:48:47 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: Re: Expression pedal with PMC10 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id LAA18918 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Boss/Roland EV-5 works well for mine... -Miko >>> sginn@airmail.net 03/31/01 08:26AM >>> What kind of expression pedals are most using with the PMC10? Also, does anyone know if the Yamaha FC7 expression pedal will work ... I have heard that for some equipment like the POD DL-4 it won't. Thanks, Steve From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 12:37:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA20934; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:33:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:33:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <06A9F7A44D8BD411AE0E009027DE4F354637C5@mars.plantronics.com> From: "GRAY, Toby" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Traveling Tips Need ... Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 09:29:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wow, a bus trip from Austin to NY and back with your equipment in bags. That should inspire some good blues tunes when you are finished. A few thoughts: Chances are you and your baggage will be transferring busses several times during your journey which adds the risk of things getting bashed about. If you can borrow or rent an amp in NY you will save alot of effort in transporting yours. Duffel bags offer very little protection even if you pad all of your fragile stuff with your clothes. Get a trunk, pad it with foam and pad lock it. Army surplus is one source for affordable trunks. Get hard-shell cases for your axes. Carrying one in a bag is tough enough to protect but 2 is very tough to keep track of. There is always the possibility of once you have them stashed in an overhead someone will come along and cram their luggage into your axes with alot of force. Travel as light as you possibly can and get insurance if you can. Who's gonna watch your stuff when you have to use the restroom at a strange bus station? If you have to take that much and pack like that seriously consider driving yourself. Good luck! Toby Gray http://DavidLaFlamme.com http://theRoadBand.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 14:13:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25304; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:10:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:10:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 11:06:45 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: trading samples In-reply-to: <064301c0bb81$fe4c4340$080210ac@jpalmer> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <064301c0bb81$fe4c4340$080210ac@jpalmer> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 9:34 AM -0500 4/2/01, jim palmer wrote: >what if it is actually worth $0 a few years down the line? >this is, in fact, the most likely outcome... > >does he have to pay his bar tab plus interest? That's just silly and beside the point. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD zvonar@zvonar.com (818) 788-2202 voice zvonar@LCSaudio.com (818) 788-2203 fax zvonar@well.com http://www.zvonar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 14:26:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25886; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:23:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:23:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <33.12ea43bd.27fa1d57@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:22:15 EDT Subject: OT: various gtrs/mixer/fx for sale To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com folks, in case yer interested: here's a short list of some of my stuff that's currently for sale. gtrs: 1965 Kapa (Hofner, but mfd. in usa) Continental, bluegreen, veryverygood cond., 2 incredible pickups, funky old-school vibrato bridge, original case is cosmetically worn & marked w/sharpie: $700. 1995 Ibanez Talman, greenblue, good cond. (probly needs a l'il work on the neck), 2 humcancelling p90 pickups, vibrato bridge, $200. 1993 Fender mini-Stratocaster, near mint cond., (s'posedly, only 75 of these non-toy mini-strats were imported into the usa from japan), 3 pickups w/5-way switch, vibrato bridge, lake placid blue, custom case, probly needs a l'il work on the neck as it's live its mini-life w/a 'nashville'-stringing: $900. 1997 Crews Maniac Sound 3/4-sized weirdo electric guitar w/built in amp & ratty speaker, clean & dist. positions, silver sparkle (looks a bit like a smallerised ErnieBall guitar, w/a 4/2 headstock), one lipstick tube pickup, modified to allow the output to function as a send/return (so ye can use yer fx & the internal amp), no case: $425. fx: digitech dhp 55, 1-rack space wacky multi-fx w/polyphonic smart 'harmonisation', dist/overdrive, comp., reverb, delays, etc. (pretty cool thingy): $450. waldorf mini-works 4-pole filter, desktop unit (mono in/stereo out), fully midified, purty fat-sounding analog filter: $325. mixer: ashly audio mx508, 3-rack space 8-channel stereo mixer w/nice mic pre's, various outputs (incl. front panel headphone), factory modified to include 2 pre-fader aux sends, seen a bit o'travel, http://ashly.com/mixers.htm: $950. buyer pays shipping. best, splatter-sale / dt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 14:45:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA26537; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:42:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:42:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <388229693.986236866994.JavaMail.root@web617-ec.mail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:41:05 -0400 (EDT) From: "Brian Thomson, Dublin IE" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MMM Splatter cell? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: mail.com X-Originating-IP: 207.18.199.198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Olivier Malhomme asked: "It may hve been covered already... but any advice on this ?" You mean, like, is it any good? Short answer: Yes! Pretty mad stuff, very danceable, especially for the mutants among us (bwahahaha...) Another loop-related recommendation: "Heaven & Earth" by ProjeKct X. The extra "K" probably gives it away - this is King Crimson's "mangled outtakes" album from the "ConstruKction of Light" sessions. Warning: highly speaker-unfriendly. NP: station "Placekeeper Vol. 3" on mp3.com - http://stations.mp3s.com/stations/173/placekeeper_vol3.html - "Prepared Guitar" by noiseOmatic1000 - ohmygawd... Brian Thomson, Dublin IE bnt@email.com (ceci n'est pas un .sig) ----------------------------------------------- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 15:13:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28280; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:08:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:08:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003a01c0bba6$dd6dcde0$a438f618@oemcomputer.spardil.mediacom.ispchannel.com> Reply-To: "Eric Williamson" From: "Eric Williamson" To: Subject: Re: Leslie cabinet ... HELL FRIPPIN' YEAH!!! Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:58:11 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <7eBa5D.A.T3G.j3My6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >I'll be using this live from now on - yet another box to carry ! Welcome to the wonderful world of Hammond/Leslie addiction. There are support groups to be found ... nowhere!! haha ... >Is anyone else using leslies ? I have access to another so I'll be hooking >that one up soon : ) I own more Leslies than the Chovits own EDPs. I gig with a pair of 122s and a Hammond C-3, and can't ever go back. Korg Z1+RDS7.6(with delay time tweak for that david torn sound)+organ+leslie=incredible sensual experience The bad ass leslie, the centrepiece of my collection, is a 31h. Made in 1948, it features an electromagnetic (!) woofer, and a 6L6 quartet in the class A amp circuit. It's also the only leslie that can reproduce the extreme low frequencies of the Hammond pedalboard, which can give LTJ Bukem a run for his money. Leslies are one of the coolest but _never_ used tools for the creation of ambient music ... second only to the Hammond (or Pauline Oliveros' accordion, haha). I am lacking any ambient stuff with leslie on my site ... i'll let you guys know if that changes. Eric Williamson www.suitandtieguy.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 15:50:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29303; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:47:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:47:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004f01c0bbad$649c6000$4b0218ac@jnpr.net> From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: References: <002e01c0a2aa$3d2440e0$0201a8c0@stephen> Subject: Re: Sound Card question Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:44:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0044_01C0BB72.B4827BD0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C0BB72.B4827BD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable An SBLive has given me nothing but grief, trying to install it on a = win2k server here at work. I bought it to >Avoid< greif, figuring the = best selling sound card must have all the bugs ironed out. The support person hung up on me, while I walked away for 5 seconds to = reset the machine. I could already tell by the tone in his voice that he = knew there was no solution. THe SBlive is also very picky regarding the PCI slot it gets under = win98. I learnt that on my home machine. For multimedia and Digital Audio, I would suggest 98SE as the OS to use, = unless the software you want to use runs well on 2k. Logic Audio doesn't = run at all. The Sound Forge stuff does. I can recommend the SBLive card. I've got the MP3+ model, which lists = at about $99. I've not had a problem besides a brief conflict with the = VIA chipset handling whenever new hardware is added to the bus, which is = resolved by an IRQ sharing patch available from VIA. An addon supplies = 5.1 surround as well. Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery.html - Online Cartoons & = Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! http://www.mp3.com/StephenGoodman * New MP3 Releases! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeffrey Robert=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: 01 March 2001 16:20 PM Subject: Sound Card question Hello, I have a hardware question for you all. I want to start putting my = loops online but I don't know what kind of soundcard to get. Any = suggestions on an inexpensive sound card? My setup is a Yamaha MD-4 = --> soundcard? ---> Windows 2000 machine? =20 Which raises another question, with the new Windows operating systems = ME and 2000, which is better for multi-media applications like editing = music? ME seems quite buggy, but supposedly more designed for this use. = Any feedback? thanks, Lew ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C0BB72.B4827BD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
An SBLive has given me nothing but = grief, trying to=20 install it on a win2k server here at work. I bought it to >Avoid< = greif,=20 figuring the best selling sound card must have all the bugs ironed=20 out.
 
The support person hung up on me, while = I walked=20 away for 5 seconds to reset the machine. I could already tell by the = tone in his=20 voice that he knew there was no solution.
 
THe SBlive is also very picky regarding = the PCI=20 slot it gets under win98. I learnt that on my home=20 machine.
 
For multimedia and Digital Audio, I = would suggest=20 98SE as the OS to use, unless = the software=20 you want to use runs well on 2k. Logic Audio doesn't run at all. The = Sound Forge=20 stuff does.
 
I can recommend the SBLive card.  I've = got the=20 MP3+ model, which lists at about $99.  I've not had a problem = besides a=20 brief conflict with the VIA chipset handling whenever new hardware is = added to=20 the bus, which is resolved by an IRQ sharing patch available from = VIA. =20 An addon supplies 5.1 surround as well.
 
Stephen Goodman
http://www.earthlight.net= /Gallery.html=20 - Online Cartoons & Illustrations
http://www.earthlight.net/Stud= ios=20 * The free Loop of the Week!
http://www.mp3.com/StephenGood= man=20 * New MP3 Releases!
 
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Jeffrey Robert=20
Sent: 01 March 2001 16:20 PM
Subject: Sound Card question

Hello,
I have a hardware question = for you=20 all.  I want to start putting my loops online but I don't know = what kind=20 of soundcard to get.  Any suggestions on an inexpensive sound=20 card?  My setup is a Yamaha = MD-4 =20 --> soundcard?  ---> Windows 2000 machine?  =
Which raises another question, with = the new=20 Windows operating systems ME and 2000, which is better for multi-media = applications like editing music?  ME seems quite buggy, but = supposedly=20 more designed for this use.  Any feedback?
thanks,
Lew
------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C0BB72.B4827BD0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 16:59:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA31932; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:56:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:56:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000b01c0bbb3$4b68bfb0$4b0218ac@jnpr.net> From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: References: <002e01c0a2aa$3d2440e0$0201a8c0@stephen> <004f01c0bbad$649c6000$4b0218ac@jnpr.net> Subject: Re: Sound Card question Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:27:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0BB78.9E47D030" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0BB78.9E47D030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I forgot to add: YMMV. I'm probably one of the only people to try = installing Sound Blaster on a Compaq proliant server box, under win 2k = Server edition, with an Osprey capture card. Still, it gave me grief under 98 to, on a home built box. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jonathan El-Bizri=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 12:44 PM Subject: Re: Sound Card question An SBLive has given me nothing but grief, trying to install it on a = win2k server here at work. I bought it to >Avoid< greif, figuring the = best selling sound card must have all the bugs ironed out. The support person hung up on me, while I walked away for 5 seconds to = reset the machine. I could already tell by the tone in his voice that he = knew there was no solution. THe SBlive is also very picky regarding the PCI slot it gets under = win98. I learnt that on my home machine. For multimedia and Digital Audio, I would suggest 98SE as the OS to = use, unless the software you want to use runs well on 2k. Logic Audio = doesn't run at all. The Sound Forge stuff does. I can recommend the SBLive card. I've got the MP3+ model, which = lists at about $99. I've not had a problem besides a brief conflict = with the VIA chipset handling whenever new hardware is added to the bus, = which is resolved by an IRQ sharing patch available from VIA. An addon = supplies 5.1 surround as well. Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery.html - Online Cartoons & = Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! http://www.mp3.com/StephenGoodman * New MP3 Releases! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeffrey Robert=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: 01 March 2001 16:20 PM Subject: Sound Card question Hello, I have a hardware question for you all. I want to start putting my = loops online but I don't know what kind of soundcard to get. Any = suggestions on an inexpensive sound card? My setup is a Yamaha MD-4 = --> soundcard? ---> Windows 2000 machine? =20 Which raises another question, with the new Windows operating = systems ME and 2000, which is better for multi-media applications like = editing music? ME seems quite buggy, but supposedly more designed for = this use. Any feedback? thanks, Lew ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0BB78.9E47D030 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I forgot to add: YMMV. I'm = probably one of the=20 only people to try installing Sound Blaster on a Compaq proliant server = box,=20 under win 2k Server edition, with an Osprey capture = card.
 
Still, it gave me grief under 98 = to, on a home=20 built box.
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jonathan=20 El-Bizri
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 = 12:44=20 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Card = question

 
An SBLive has given me nothing but = grief, trying=20 to install it on a win2k server here at work. I bought it to = >Avoid<=20 greif, figuring the best selling sound card must have all the bugs = ironed=20 out.
 
The support person hung up on me, = while I walked=20 away for 5 seconds to reset the machine. I could already tell by the = tone in=20 his voice that he knew there was no solution.
 
THe SBlive is also very picky = regarding the PCI=20 slot it gets under win98. I learnt that on my home=20 machine.
 
For multimedia and Digital Audio, I = would suggest=20 98SE as the OS to use, unless = the software=20 you want to use runs well on 2k. Logic Audio doesn't run at all. The = Sound=20 Forge stuff does.
 
I can recommend the SBLive card.  = I've got the=20 MP3+ model, which lists at about $99.  I've not had a problem = besides a=20 brief conflict with the VIA chipset handling whenever new hardware = is added=20 to the bus, which is resolved by an IRQ sharing patch available from = VIA.  An addon supplies 5.1 surround as well.
 
Stephen Goodman
http://www.earthlight.net= /Gallery.html=20 - Online Cartoons & Illustrations
http://www.earthlight.net/Stud= ios=20 * The free Loop of the Week!
http://www.mp3.com/StephenGood= man=20 * New MP3 Releases!
 
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: = Jeffrey=20 Robert
Sent: 01 March 2001 16:20 PM
Subject: Sound Card question

Hello,
I have a hardware = question for you=20 all.  I want to start putting my loops online but I don't know = what=20 kind of soundcard to get.  Any suggestions on an inexpensive = sound=20 card?  My setup is a Yamaha = MD-4 =20 --> soundcard?  ---> Windows 2000 machine?  =
Which raises another question, with = the new=20 Windows operating systems ME and 2000, which is better for = multi-media=20 applications like editing music?  ME seems quite buggy, but = supposedly=20 more designed for this use.  Any feedback?
thanks,
Lew
------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C0BB78.9E47D030-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 17:26:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA01423; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:24:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:24:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.174.121.53] From: "Patrick Bailey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Electrix repeater Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 14:23:41 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Apr 2001 21:23:41.0393 (UTC) FILETIME=[3088E410:01C0BBBB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Greetings, This is my first post to the Looper's Delight list! Anybody had a chance to use the new Electrix Repeater? I haven't toyed with one yet, but it looks pretty powerful, a lot of features on it that I wish my Jamman had on it. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 17:29:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA01471; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:26:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:26:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AC65859.5AB16C69@club.lemonde.fr> Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 00:21:13 +0200 From: "o.malhomme" Reply-To: o.malhomme@club.lemonde.fr X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [fr] (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Torn References: <200104021543.LAA18652@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "Are you talking about David Torn's CD Splattercell? If you like David's more recent music, you'll love this CD. He's getting more experimental and creative every time. I love this record." Yes definitely, I was. My last connection with his work was I think Guitar Oblique... Olivier Malhomme From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 17:50:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA02186; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:48:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:48:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001701c0bbbe$aaf77ba0$582078d8@prelayomb> From: "Gary Lehmann" To: References: <000d01c0bb08$6e5e9a40$11624442@austin.rr.com> Subject: OT--FS300 Footswitch--How Do I return it to its previous Wiring Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:48:33 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6031 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Subject line says it all, but here goes-- After trying the use of the FS300 as a foot controller for the Echoplex Digital Pro, I have decided for various reasons to return to the use of the EDP foot controller which I purchased with the EDP. That being said, how do I rewire the Digitech FS300 so that it once again functions as a TRS three button footswitch? Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 18:09:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA03968; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:07:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:07:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <007c01c0bbc0$52401420$6b44230a@mlameyer02> X-Sybari-Space: 00000000 00000000 00000000 From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: Subject: Please support your local japanese Looper's Delight J loop fest Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:00:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Looks like gary someone (holgate?) and I have about 19 loops up there on Sunao's ftp site. I'd feel a little shorted if over half of the loops up there were mine! I've just been putting up anything I thought might be interesting, without regard to whether they'll all be used or not. I heartily encourage anyone to throw loops at him. I think it'll be more interesting if more than like 4 people on list contribute. If 20 people contribute and Sunao only uses one or two of my loops, that'd be great. But I just wanna give him as much stuff to play with as I can. And the sooner he gets stuff, the more time Sunao has to tweak and arrange, I'm assuming. Please outdo me. Put stuff up you like better than mine. Fart across a waterbottle and loop the feedback. Ok, enough unsolicited advertising. I just think it'd be a hoot. Mike From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 19:09:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05110; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:57:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:57:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 17:55:17 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: OT--FS300 Footswitch--How Do I return it to its previous Wiring To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <00c001c0bbc7$fcd075e0$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 References: <000d01c0bb08$6e5e9a40$11624442@austin.rr.com> <001701c0bbbe$aaf77ba0$582078d8@prelayomb> X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com did you keep the diodes that were in it? one switch grounds the tip, one switch grounds the sleeve, the third is wired to both through the diodes, so current can only flow from ground to tip and from ground to sleeve. (the marked end of each diode connects to the jack) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Lehmann" To: Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 4:48 PM Subject: OT--FS300 Footswitch--How Do I return it to its previous Wiring > Subject line says it all, but here goes-- > After trying the use of the FS300 as a foot controller for the Echoplex > Digital Pro, I have decided for various reasons to return to the use of the > EDP foot controller which I purchased with the EDP. That being said, how do > I rewire the Digitech FS300 so that it once again functions as a TRS three > button footswitch? > Gary > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 19:09:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA04952; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:50:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:50:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AC90393.DFA9161C@dplanet.ch> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 00:56:53 +0200 From: Christoph Grab Reply-To: christoph.grab@dplanet.ch X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [de] (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: de,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: electrix filterfactory Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi loopers i often work on my loops with electrix'filterfactory. did anybody ever try to footcontrol the frequency of filterfactory with a cv-pedal (like yamaha fc9)? electrix says it is possible, when i try it, it does not work... christoph From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 20:03:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA08628; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:00:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:00:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 16:59:09 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: Electrix repeater Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Welcome Patrick, Please put your fireproof suit on... also, take a snoop around the archives...this topic has been battered until we're all exhausted. t'aint out yet. no one has used it. except maybe Damon and Jamie. so, Damon? Jamie? Have you had a chance to use the Repeater? What'dya think? Is it cool, or is it just a bunch of vaporware hype? :) best, rich >Greetings, > >This is my first post to the Looper's Delight list! > >Anybody had a chance to use the new Electrix Repeater? I haven't >toyed with one yet, but it looks pretty powerful, a lot of features >on it that I wish my Jamman had on it. >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 20:13:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA09082; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:09:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:09:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: XJ32@aol.com Message-ID: <83.91602bd.27fa6e80@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:08:32 EDT Subject: Boomerang, what do you guys think ???? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 128 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com So I already own a 32sec. Jamman, a Line 6 DL4. and I have a "Repeater" on order, Paid in full. I am thinking about also purchasing a Boomerang pedal this week. Any one have any pros and cons on this unit. Is it true stereo or is it like the jamman ? How is it's sound quality? Any reasons why I should not get one? Thanks, Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 20:33:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA09740; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:31:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:31:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Todd Pafford To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boomerang, what do you guys think ???? Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:32:47 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.95.2] Content-Type: text/plain References: <83.91602bd.27fa6e80@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <83.91602bd.27fa6e80@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01040220324700.07053@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Mon, 02 Apr 2001, XJ32@aol.com wrote: > So I already own a 32sec. Jamman, a Line 6 DL4. and I have a "Repeater" on > order, Paid in full. > > I am thinking about also purchasing a Boomerang pedal this week. Any one > have any pros and cons on this unit. Is it true stereo or is it like the > jamman ? > How is it's sound quality? Any reasons why I should not get one? > > Thanks, Paul Lengthy discussions about the Boomerang can, of course, be found in the archives so I'll keep my response short. Sound Quality: There are two versions of the 'Rang, the original and the new 'Rang Plus. The original had somewhat questionable sound quality as it's sample rate was fairly low. The Plus fixes this with the option of higher sample rates. I own a 'Rang and haven't upgraded it yet. The sound is not pristine, but most of the time I don't mind it. Fun Factor: This is a very fun and easy to use unit. What it lacks in features (compared with the EDP and others) it more than makes up for in simplicity. Also the new 'Rang Plus adds a number of features I can't wait to get my hands on including the ability to work with two loops and more flexible speed adjustments. Stereo: It's not. Period. One input + one output = mono. Sigh. Also no way that I know of to get two and link them together to run stereo. So, if you have a spare $400 or so lying around and want a fun, easy to use, tough as nails looper then go for it. If you're looking for something to replace an EDP this probably won't cut it. Hope that helped, Todd From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 20:48:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA10287; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:47:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:47:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20010402194556.007f8300@mail.airmail.net> X-Sender: mcl451@mail.airmail.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 19:45:56 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Michael Clark Subject: Re: Electrix repeater - Please Not Again! In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 04:59 PM 4/2/01 -0700, you wrote: >Welcome Patrick, > >Please put your fireproof suit on... > >also, take a snoop around the archives...this topic has been battered >until we're all exhausted. > >t'aint out yet. no one has used it. except maybe Damon and Jamie. >so, Damon? Jamie? Have you had a chance to use the Repeater? >What'dya think? Is it cool, or is it just a bunch of vaporware hype? >:) > >best, > >rich > > > >>Greetings, >> >>This is my first post to the Looper's Delight list! >> >>Anybody had a chance to use the new Electrix Repeater? I haven't >>toyed with one yet, but it looks pretty powerful, a lot of features >>on it that I wish my Jamman had on it. >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 20:49:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA10284; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:46:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:46:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <67.11f900da.27fa7726@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:45:26 EDT Subject: Re: Boomerang, what do you guys think ???? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_67.11f900da.27fa7726_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: <0sFyOB.A.dcC.T1Ry6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_67.11f900da.27fa7726_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/2/01 8:31:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, galen@erols.com writes: > there are actually two outputs which you can send to different places and pan however you like, its not stereo but it still makes a big sound.....it is indeed the height of simplicity to use.....everyone should have a least one....:).....michael --part1_67.11f900da.27fa7726_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/2/01 8:31:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, galen@erols.com
writes:


 One input + one output = mono.


there are actually two outputs which you can send to different places and pan
however you like, its not stereo but it still makes a big sound.....it is
indeed the height of simplicity to use.....everyone should have a least
one....:).....michael --part1_67.11f900da.27fa7726_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 21:01:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA11696; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:59:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:59:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003301c0bbd9$48b20ee0$f92078d8@prelayomb> From: "Gary Lehmann" To: References: <000d01c0bb08$6e5e9a40$11624442@austin.rr.com> <001701c0bbbe$aaf77ba0$582078d8@prelayomb> <00c001c0bbc7$fcd075e0$080210ac@jpalmer> Subject: OT--FS300 Footswitch Wiring Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:59:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > did you keep the diodes that were in it? I never removed any parts (!) > one switch grounds the tip, > one switch grounds the sleeve, > the third is wired to both through the diodes, > so current can only flow from ground to tip and > from ground to sleeve. > (the marked end of each diode connects to the jack) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Lehmann" > To: > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 4:48 PM > Subject: OT--FS300 Footswitch--How Do I return it to its previous Wiring > > > > Subject line says it all, but here goes-- > > After trying the use of the FS300 as a foot controller for the Echoplex > > Digital Pro, I have decided for various reasons to return to the use of the > > EDP foot controller which I purchased with the EDP. That being said, how do > > I rewire the Digitech FS300 so that it once again functions as a TRS three > > button footswitch? > > Gary Oh--that's very different. Guess I'm not as smart as I thought-- I'm not sure what to do now. Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 22:56:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA15281; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:54:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:54:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 21:53:06 -0500 Subject: OT: PMC10 programming From: Steve Ginn To: Loopers Delight Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I apologize for being off topic, except that I don't know of another list where there is such a concentration of PMC10 users. If it would please those on the list, reply to me off list if possible. I am trying to further program my PMC10 to do things other than just change patches and I am trying to understand the manual. Specifically, I would like to control my MPX1 effects processor with it so that I don't have to keep an additional FS300 on the side for Tap, A/B and Bypass. What I have done is connect a TRS cable from the EXT Switch jack to the Footswitch Jack on the MPX1 (in place of the FS300). Then I have tried combinations of toggle, momentary, etc. to get the MPX1 to respond to the same signals it was getting from the FS300. I seemed to have gotten the Tap Tempo signal working which originally mapped to Switch A on the FS300, but I still can't get Switch B (A/B) and Switch C (Bypass) duplicated on the PMC10. Any suggestions? Thanks, Steve From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 2 23:47:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA17599; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:46:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:46:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:42:58 -0400 To: "Art List" From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Video Performance Tomorrow (Tuesday) with urban Ambience and TBG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Folks, Last minute notice -- wasn't sure I could make it myself-:) Tue.. April 3rd 8PM A set of improvisation with Urban Ambience and the Tall Bald Grandfathers at the Zeitgeist Gallery 312 Broadway, at the corner of Norfolk St. , Cambridge. Live Video Art by Dr. T 617.876-2182 Urban Ambience is: Chuck "U." Rosina - Loops, FX, tapes Bob McCloskey - Sax, Clarinet, Flute, Keys, Percussion Michael Bloom - Bass, Guitar, Percussion -- "Once the search is in progress, something will be found" -- Brian Eno and Peter Schmidt Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 00:04:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA19104; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:02:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:02:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008a01c0bbf3$2d9413a0$7a89e3a5@looppool> From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: References: <200104030003.UAA08800@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: sound card Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:04:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <2AyaeD.A.gnE.MrUy6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com a very quick disclaimer: I'm a relative newbie to computer music composition, having been involved with the World Beat movement for 22 years as an artist and producer so take everything I say here with a grain of salt. I've tried my best to research this particular area but there is much that I am ignorant of. If I've got anything wrong, please help educate me and don't waste time flaming me. Thanks. I've found that the Soundblaster live card (which I used for my entire first CD of abstract electronica) had tremendous problems with my VIA motherboard and was advised by one of my computer gurus (Si Moorehead, one of the geniuses at EMU/Creative) teh the VIA motherboards are notorious for conflicts. I finally gave up and bought a brand new Intel motherboard and, presto, everything is working hunky dory. Be advised: I have heard that the A/D/A converters are not very good (below pro specs, certainly) and that because they use a 48k sampling rate that every time you do anything in the 44k sampling range (like EVERYTHING having to do with CD manufacturing) that it forces the sounds to go through this crummy conversion on the way in and on the way out. How I circumvented this problem (and avoided buying an expensive DAT machine in the process) was to buy a MidiMan FLYING COW A/D/A converter that supports 24/96 recording, SPDIF and has balanced stereo ins and outs. It set me back about $350 as I remember and allows me to SPDIF everything in and out of the SoundBlaster live card thus (I hope I've figure out correctly) circumventing the SoundBlasters A/D/A converters all together. I also just read that ART has a new stereo A/D/A converter (I think called the DI/O) which the catalogues are selling for only $250. As long as you buy a Sound Blaster Live card that has SPDIF in and out (a waste of time if it doesn't) you do NOT have to spring for their most expensive card. If it has SPDIF it is as good a card as they make. You just pay for the breakout box and all of their software (much of which is pretty superfluous if you are doing serious recording/composing) by purchasing the expensive card. Total outlay for a pretty cool and quite setup: $350!!!! Not bad. I believe it is the cheapest way I know of achieving 'champagne' high quality results on a 'beer' budget. One last thing: Windows '98 has a new version out which has really resolved a lot of the conflicts with a lot of drivers. Download the upgrade and install it. It has made a huge impact on the stability of my system (which got pretty damn wobbly last year). I must confess that for music applications I still don't trust Windows ME yet. Anybody have any good luck stories with it, yet? It always seems the best bet to wait two years for any Windows operating system before they work out the kinks. yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 00:28:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA19847; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:25:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:25:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008d01c0bbf6$8036d540$7a89e3a5@looppool> From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: References: <200104030003.UAA08800@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: re: Leslie's and ersatz Leslie's Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:28:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Nothing beats the real thing. That being said and done, my brother, Bill Walker is a world class electric, acoustic and synthesizer guitar player and he has informed me that the Line 6 Guitar POD has a very cool leslie simulation, replete with the effect of the leslie speeding up or slowing down when changing speeds of the rotation. Also, apparently, you can program the speed of the leslie by using tap tempo which is cool. He played it for me in rehearsal last night and it sound remarkably convincing (and I have played in several bands with B3 players with fully tricked out and hot rodded leslie cabinets.......wow, that's how old I am ;-). It's a thought if you dont' have the dough or the space for the real deal. yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 00:41:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA20242; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:39:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:39:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:36:20 -0400 Subject: Re: sound card Message-ID: <20010403.003621.-1702225.2.aiwaz93@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.27 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-1,3,5-10,12-95 From: David J Greiner Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Greetings, If you have UBS ports try the Roland UA-30 (check www.edirol.com for the specs). I was a bit skeptical about USB audio quality, but after I got it I loved it. It was only about $230 from http://www.zzounds.com -David- On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:04:27 -0700 "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" writes: > a very quick disclaimer: > I'm a relative newbie to computer music composition, having been > involved > with the World Beat movement for 22 years as an artist and producer > so take > everything I say here with a grain of salt. I've tried my best to > research > this particular area but there is much that I am ignorant of. If > I've got > anything wrong, please help educate me and don't waste time flaming > me. > Thanks. > > > I've found that the Soundblaster live card (which I used for my > entire first > CD of abstract electronica) had tremendous problems with > my VIA motherboard and was advised by one of my computer gurus (Si > Moorehead, one of the geniuses at EMU/Creative) teh the VIA > motherboards are notorious for conflicts. I finally gave up and > bought a > brand new Intel motherboard and, presto, everything is working > hunky dory. > > Be advised: I have heard that the A/D/A converters are not very > good (below > pro specs, certainly) and that because they use a > 48k sampling rate that every time you do anything in the 44k > sampling range > (like EVERYTHING having to do with CD manufacturing) that > it forces the sounds to go through this crummy conversion on the way > in and > on the way out. How I circumvented this problem > (and avoided buying an expensive DAT machine in the process) was to > buy a > MidiMan FLYING COW A/D/A converter that supports > 24/96 recording, SPDIF and has balanced stereo ins and outs. It > set me > back about $350 as I remember and allows me to SPDIF everything in > and out > of the SoundBlaster live card thus (I hope I've figure out > correctly) > circumventing the SoundBlasters A/D/A converters all together. I > also > just read that ART has a new stereo A/D/A converter (I think called > the > DI/O) which the catalogues are selling for > only $250. As long as you buy a Sound Blaster Live card that has > SPDIF in > and out (a waste of time if it doesn't) you do NOT have to spring > for their > most expensive card. If it has SPDIF it is as good a card as they > make. > You just pay for the breakout box and all of their software (much of > which > is pretty superfluous if you are doing serious recording/composing) > by > purchasing the expensive card. > Total outlay for a pretty cool and quite setup: $350!!!! Not > bad. I > believe it is the cheapest way I know of achieving 'champagne' high > quality > results on a 'beer' budget. > > One last thing: Windows '98 has a new version out which has > really > resolved a lot of the conflicts with a lot of drivers. Download > the > upgrade and install it. It has made a huge impact on the stability > of my > system (which got pretty damn wobbly last year). I must confess > that > for music applications I still don't trust Windows ME yet. > Anybody have > any good luck stories with it, yet? > It always seems the best bet to wait two years for any Windows > operating > system before they work out the kinks. > > yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 00:44:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA20367; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:41:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:41:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [24.163.200.30] From: "Pete Mundt" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: LoopersRadio Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 00:40:08 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Apr 2001 04:40:09.0120 (UTC) FILETIME=[29A2EA00:01C0BBF8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey Folks~ I am currently taking submissions for Loopers Radio on live365.com. Please feel free to email me any links you may have for your tunes. Also include with the link a list of your top 3 picks so I have a place to start. Also~ The sampling rate must be 32kbps, so after I download your songs, I will have to convert them down to this sampling rate in order to upload them to live365.com. My question, What is the best way to do this? Richard mentioned : >I'm a little wary of converting mp3 files from one compression level to >another. I've heard this might give poorer results than doing a new >conversion from AIFF to the 32 kpbs required by Live365. If you know >different, fine. I do not know different, hence I put the question to the list. I dont really work with AIFF files, just wav & mp3. I'll be downloading your songs in mp3 format, so that's of course going to be the starting format. From there, do I convert the file into a AIFF? or a WAV? then into a 32kbps mp3???? >? Any sugestions are greatly apreciated! (Of course, I'd prefer not to convert too many times!!) One last thing, anyone else out there with a high speed connection that can help out uploading, please let me know!!!! That will help get the station going before the CT Collective has its third birthday! Thanks, Pete. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 00:55:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA21361; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:53:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 00:53:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "J. Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: Electrix repeater Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:52:23 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-reply-to: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well, I think you will have a good laugh when you hit the archives and read what has already been said about this. In fact, I had a good laugh hearing you mention it. J. | -----Original Message----- | From: Patrick Bailey [mailto:patthelooper@hotmail.com] | Sent: Monday 02 April 2001 2:24 PM | To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com | Subject: Electrix repeater | | | Greetings, | | This is my first post to the Looper's Delight list! | | Anybody had a chance to use the new Electrix Repeater? I | haven't toyed with | one yet, but it looks pretty powerful, a lot of features on it | that I wish | my Jamman had on it. | _________________________________________________________________ | Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 01:18:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA22981; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 01:14:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 01:14:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000901c0bbfc$900b8280$26a46fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: "Eric Williamson" , References: <003a01c0bba6$dd6dcde0$a438f618@oemcomputer.spardil.mediacom.ispchannel.com> Subject: Re: Leslie cabinet ... HELL FRIPPIN' YEAH!!! Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 06:10:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fascinating, I was wondering, presumably the two Leslies are drifting in and out of synch with each other even assuming they are wired together. Does this asynchronicity make you feel queasy or is it cool ? Gareth > I own more Leslies than the Chovits own EDPs. I gig with a pair of 122s and a > Hammond C-3, and can't ever go back. Korg Z1+RDS7.6(with delay time tweak for > that david torn sound)+organ+leslie=incredible sensual experience > > The bad ass leslie, the centrepiece of my collection, is a 31h. Made in 1948, it > features an electromagnetic (!) woofer, and a 6L6 quartet in the class A amp > circuit. It's also the only leslie that can reproduce the extreme low > frequencies of the Hammond pedalboard, which can give LTJ Bukem a run for his > money. > > Leslies are one of the coolest but _never_ used tools for the creation of > ambient music ... second only to the Hammond (or Pauline Oliveros' accordion, > haha). > > I am lacking any ambient stuff with leslie on my site ... i'll let you guys know > if that changes. > > Eric Williamson > www.suitandtieguy.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 01:53:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA23816; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 01:49:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 01:49:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mibeck@143.229.1.6 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <008a01c0bbf3$2d9413a0$7a89e3a5@looppool> References: <200104030003.UAA08800@hemlock.violacea.com> <008a01c0bbf3$2d9413a0$7a89e3a5@looppool> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 01:48:05 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Michael Beck Subject: Re: sound card Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com [talking about SBLive's crappy converters and how to avoid resampling to 48k] >How I circumvented this problem >(and avoided buying an expensive DAT machine in the process) was to buy a >MidiMan FLYING COW A/D/A converter that supports >24/96 recording, SPDIF and has balanced stereo ins and outs. It set me >back about $350 as I remember and allows me to SPDIF everything in and out >of the SoundBlaster live card thus (I hope I've figure out correctly) >circumventing the SoundBlasters A/D/A converters all together. As far as I know, this doesn't really do as much as you would think. I mean, you are avoiding the converters, but the basic problem still exists: the SBLive card actually (re)samples *everything* to 48KHz, even the digital inputs, regardless of the incoming frequency! Now, this may not make much of an audible difference the first time around, but keep doing it and a few generations from now you'll definitely hear it. What I've been told is that everything Creative makes is crap & to avoid it for real work. For more info check out the archives of the DAT-Heads Digest mailing list. YMMV & please correct if I'm wrong! - Mike P.S.- A real Leslie makes a sound like no other. When I first got my 147 the world turned upside down. :) Drawbacks: it's frickin' HEAVY and needs to be run as loud as possible for that glassy crunchy overdriven thing. Only so much dist can be added in the preamp - a real Leslie power amp running full out is a beautiful sound to behold. Having said that, there are decent emulators. (Motion Sound comes to mind as a good non-digital alternative.) You don't *really* need the total effect all the time. Sure is cool, though :)... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 01:57:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA24123; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 01:55:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 01:55:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001f01c0bc04$5a152480$6501a8c0@bIz> From: "Jon" To: References: <200104030003.UAA08800@hemlock.violacea.com> <008a01c0bbf3$2d9413a0$7a89e3a5@looppool> Subject: WOT Re: sound cards Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:07:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > 24/96 recording, SPDIF and has balanced stereo ins and outs. It set me > back about $350 as I remember and allows me to SPDIF everything in and out > of the SoundBlaster live card thus (I hope I've figure out correctly) > circumventing the SoundBlasters A/D/A converters all together. I also > just read that ART has a new stereo A/D/A converter (I think called the > DI/O) which the catalogues are selling for > only $250. I was under the impression that spdif i/o is 48khz only too. How does this circumvent the resampling? If you were sampling on the live card at 48khz to begin with, you wouldn't be resampling either. I do know that all the internal mixing is at 48khz, which means that even if the sp-dif is configurable to 44.1, you're >still< resampling. One resample isn't exactly going to kill your song - I bet no-one could hear the difference, especially through the SB live's A/D/A. > Total outlay for a pretty cool and quite setup: $350!!!! Not bad. I > believe it is the cheapest way I know of achieving 'champagne' high quality > results on a 'beer' budget. > Yes, it >is< very cheap. bIz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 02:06:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA25616; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 02:04:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 02:04:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00ed01c0bc04$923df940$11624442@austin.rr.com> From: "Jimmy George" To: References: <06A9F7A44D8BD411AE0E009027DE4F354637C5@mars.plantronics.com> Subject: renting a johnson stereo 150 while in new york ... Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 01:08:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com does any body know of a place i might rent a johnson m stereo 150 for a week in new york city? thanks jimmy george http://www.jimmygeorgearts.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 02:09:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA25745; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 02:07:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 02:07:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00fc01c0bc04$f019fd20$11624442@austin.rr.com> From: "Jimmy George" To: References: <007c01c0bbc0$52401420$6b44230a@mlameyer02> Subject: Re: Please support your local japanese Looper's Delight J loop fest Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 01:11:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i'll have some groovy live looping cuts up in the next couple o days ... jimmy george http://www.jimmygeorgearts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael LaMeyer To: Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 5:00 PM Subject: Please support your local japanese Looper's Delight J loop fest > Looks like gary someone (holgate?) and I have about 19 loops up > there on Sunao's ftp site. I'd feel a little shorted if over > half of the loops up there were mine! > > I've just been putting up anything I thought might be > interesting, without regard to whether they'll all be used or > not. I heartily encourage anyone to throw loops at him. I > think it'll be more interesting if more than like 4 people on > list contribute. If 20 people contribute and Sunao only uses > one or two of my loops, that'd be great. But I just wanna give > him as much stuff to play with as I can. And the sooner he gets > stuff, the more time Sunao has to tweak and arrange, I'm > assuming. > > Please outdo me. Put stuff up you like better than mine. Fart > across a waterbottle and loop the feedback. > > Ok, enough unsolicited advertising. I just think it'd be a > hoot. > > Mike > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 02:40:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA26667; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 02:38:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 02:38:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <013e01c0bc09$3fa3c980$11624442@austin.rr.com> From: "Jimmy George" To: References: <3.0.3.32.20010402194556.007f8300@mail.airmail.net> Subject: Any Dr. Didg Fans Out There? Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 01:42:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com http://www.drdidg.com/ this cat is a looper on the loose!!! peace jimmy george http://www.jimmygeorgearts.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 02:46:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA26896; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 02:44:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 02:44:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010402234006.01ea9bc8@mail.redmoon-music.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.redmoon-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 23:42:59 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: Any Dr. Didg Fans Out There? In-Reply-To: <013e01c0bc09$3fa3c980$11624442@austin.rr.com> References: <3.0.3.32.20010402194556.007f8300@mail.airmail.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <6TLr3B.A._jG.cEXy6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Jimmy George (11:42 PM 04.02.2001) wrote: >http://www.drdidg.com/ > >this cat is a looper on the loose!!! Yeup! I got turned on to him last July. Great stuff. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 03:06:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA28262; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 02:59:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 02:59:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <017c01c0bc0c$3f823060$11624442@austin.rr.com> From: "Jimmy George" To: References: <3.0.3.32.20010402194556.007f8300@mail.airmail.net> <5.0.2.1.2.20010402234006.01ea9bc8@mail.redmoon-music.com> Subject: Re: Any Dr. Didg Fans Out There? Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 02:03:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com indeed. he just came through austin. really enjoyed his show. great stuff indeed! jimmy http://www.jimmygeorgearts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Pulver To: Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 1:42 AM Subject: Re: Any Dr. Didg Fans Out There? > Jimmy George (11:42 PM 04.02.2001) wrote: > > >http://www.drdidg.com/ > > > >this cat is a looper on the loose!!! > > Yeup! > > I got turned on to him last July. Great stuff. > > > Mark > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 04:41:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA31088; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 04:38:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 04:38:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006201c0bc19$e58b74a0$4a81e3a5@looppool> From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: References: <200104030706.DAA28518@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: Sound card Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 01:41:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Michael Beck wrote about the SoundBlaster Live card: ". As far as I know, this doesn't really do as much as you would think. I mean, you are avoiding the converters, but the basic problem still exists: the SBLive card actually (re)samples *everything* to 48KHz, even the digital inputs, regardless of the incoming frequency! Now, this may not make much of an audible difference the first time around, but keep doing it and a few generations from now you'll definitely hear it. What I've been told is that everything Creative makes is crap & to avoid it for real work. For more info check out the archives of the DAT-Heads Digest mailing list. YMMV & please correct if I'm wrong!" Thanks for the information, Mike. It is new to me. I have a lot to learn about this whole soundcard business. About everything made by Creative being crap, I think that all things are relative. In the early 80's when I would have died and gone to heaven had I been able to afford a Linn Drum, a Prophet 5 and a 4 track reel to reel recorder (which was as far from me financially as a trip to the moon), it would have seemed like science fiction to me to see what I have been able to create with this "piece of crap" sound card in the last two years. The richest musicians in the world were making music far more primitive at a 1/4 of the bandwith (in the digital realm, that is). Admittedly, the soundblaster is not nearly state of the art, but what I have appreciated is that for me, as a working professional musician (not a lot of money in that in these days of George Dubya America) it was something I could afford that let me do seemingly miraculous things. I have all of the sounds from the EMU sample library in Vienna Sound Font which comes with the card fer christ sake!!!! I've gotten some really wonderful response for my first CD and it was recorded entirely on that piece of crap. More power to you if you have better fidelity equipment. I just ask for a little compassion for those of us who do not. Yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 05:32:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA00569; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 05:29:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 05:29:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mibeck@143.229.1.6 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <006201c0bc19$e58b74a0$4a81e3a5@looppool> References: <200104030706.DAA28518@hemlock.violacea.com> <006201c0bc19$e58b74a0$4a81e3a5@looppool> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 05:28:17 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Michael Beck Subject: Re: Sound card Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > More power to you if you have better fidelity equipment. I just ask for >a little compassion for those of us who do not. Absolutely. Did not mean to sound snobbish; just paraphrasing what I found in a quick search of my old D-H Digests, which consisted largely of advice like this: >In a nutshell: avoid the Soundblaster Live series like the plague! > >Everything that goies through the SBLive is resampled. Do not use it for >high-quality DAT transfers. I tried to temper those relatively caustic comments with the statement that it's not really *that* big of a deal if your card resamples (and the SBLive is not the only one, btw). Certainly for a 1-generation transfer I doubt if anyone could tell the difference. But either way, it might be worthwhile to know that what you get out is not an *exact* copy of what you put in. As a side note, there apparently is a less than $30 sound card out there called the Zoltrix Nightingale that doesn't resample its digital inputs, but the analog side is crap. Some people run both the SBLive and this card at the same time. Don't know about config issues, but it's probably not too intense. One hitch is that the Nightingale might have only an optical S/PDIF input, but you can hack it into a coax. Again, this is just what I turned up after a quick search. Don't hold me to it if I'm wrong. Lastly: yes, of course I don't condemn everything made on a SBLive, any more than I would condemn everything made on a cassette 4-track. That wasn't my intent. As I believe I said last week in a similar conversation, it's the music that matters more than the equipment you make it on - and sometimes the limitations can provoke creativity. However, I do think that people should know that better (or at least more accurate) sound cards are out there, so that if they do feel limited by their equipment, they can upgrade. I have issues with the card, not with the music. As far as my equipment: I don't have an amazing setup, but I do take the time to find the deals & buy what I can afford. At one point all I had was a guitar and a cassette 4-track, and still, when I got that little guy it was amazing! I appreciated what I had then, just as I appreciate what I have now. It doesn't include a Prophet 5 :), but it makes me happy. On-topic: when I find my cheap EDP, I'll be even happier! - Mike From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 06:51:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA02696; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 06:46:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 06:46:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <2loose@cv.quik.com.au> Message-ID: <008a01c0bc2a$9517ff00$0200a8c0@GregCampbell> From: "Alf" <2loose@cv.quik.com.au> To: References: <20010403.003621.-1702225.2.aiwaz93@juno.com> Subject: Re: sound card Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 20:41:00 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi all I'm from the land down under and have just subscribed to the list and reading about the sound cards. I have a PIII 600 , 640meg ram, and an ISIS card don't know if anyone has heard of it but I think it is much better than SB Live. the break out box has 8 ins and four outs SDIF in and out optical and cable midi in out thru and I think it has been the best buyfor me. You can check out the recordings on my site (below). Also I have recently bought the HPD-15 Handsonic I have had it for 4 weeks now and if anyone could give me any hints it would be greatly appreciated. Keep Rockin' Greg 2Loose Enz http://artists2.iuma.com/IUMA/Bands/The_2_LooseEnz/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "David J Greiner" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 2:36 PM Subject: Re: sound card > Greetings, > > If you have UBS ports try the Roland UA-30 (check www.edirol.com for > the specs). > I was a bit skeptical about USB audio quality, but after I got it I loved > it. It was only > about $230 from http://www.zzounds.com > > -David- > > > On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:04:27 -0700 "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" > writes: > > a very quick disclaimer: > > I'm a relative newbie to computer music composition, having been > > involved > > with the World Beat movement for 22 years as an artist and producer > > so take > > everything I say here with a grain of salt. I've tried my best to > > research > > this particular area but there is much that I am ignorant of. If > > I've got > > anything wrong, please help educate me and don't waste time flaming > > me. > > Thanks. > > > > > > I've found that the Soundblaster live card (which I used for my > > entire first > > CD of abstract electronica) had tremendous problems with > > my VIA motherboard and was advised by one of my computer gurus (Si > > Moorehead, one of the geniuses at EMU/Creative) teh the VIA > > motherboards are notorious for conflicts. I finally gave up and > > bought a > > brand new Intel motherboard and, presto, everything is working > > hunky dory. > > > > Be advised: I have heard that the A/D/A converters are not very > > good (below > > pro specs, certainly) and that because they use a > > 48k sampling rate that every time you do anything in the 44k > > sampling range > > (like EVERYTHING having to do with CD manufacturing) that > > it forces the sounds to go through this crummy conversion on the way > > in and > > on the way out. How I circumvented this problem > > (and avoided buying an expensive DAT machine in the process) was to > > buy a > > MidiMan FLYING COW A/D/A converter that supports > > 24/96 recording, SPDIF and has balanced stereo ins and outs. It > > set me > > back about $350 as I remember and allows me to SPDIF everything in > > and out > > of the SoundBlaster live card thus (I hope I've figure out > > correctly) > > circumventing the SoundBlasters A/D/A converters all together. I > > also > > just read that ART has a new stereo A/D/A converter (I think called > > the > > DI/O) which the catalogues are selling for > > only $250. As long as you buy a Sound Blaster Live card that has > > SPDIF in > > and out (a waste of time if it doesn't) you do NOT have to spring > > for their > > most expensive card. If it has SPDIF it is as good a card as they > > make. > > You just pay for the breakout box and all of their software (much of > > which > > is pretty superfluous if you are doing serious recording/composing) > > by > > purchasing the expensive card. > > Total outlay for a pretty cool and quite setup: $350!!!! Not > > bad. I > > believe it is the cheapest way I know of achieving 'champagne' high > > quality > > results on a 'beer' budget. > > > > One last thing: Windows '98 has a new version out which has > > really > > resolved a lot of the conflicts with a lot of drivers. Download > > the > > upgrade and install it. It has made a huge impact on the stability > > of my > > system (which got pretty damn wobbly last year). I must confess > > that > > for music applications I still don't trust Windows ME yet. > > Anybody have > > any good luck stories with it, yet? > > It always seems the best bet to wait two years for any Windows > > operating > > system before they work out the kinks. > > > > yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) > > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 09:35:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA08505; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:31:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:31:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010403132957.63830.qmail@web9603.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 06:29:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Dumeril Seven Subject: Re: Expression pedal with PMC10 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, sginn@airmail.net In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Last night I adapted a Kawai expression pedal to work with my DL-4. The Line 6 pedals want a mono plug hooked up to a 10K pot. The Kawai (and some other expression pedals) use a stereo plug and wire the plug up so that the usual variable resistance from the pot goes across the sleeve and ring of the plug (the Line 6 needs it on the sleeve and tip). I wired in a little switch to go from the normal wiring, to one that is compatible with the Line 6. Seems to me that a technically inclined person could "repurpose" a Crybaby for use as an expression pedal, assuming you can find a 10K wah pot.... D7 --- Mike Biffle wrote: > Boss/Roland EV-5 works well for mine... > > -Miko > > >>> sginn@airmail.net 03/31/01 08:26AM >>> > What kind of expression pedals are most using with the PMC10? Also, does > anyone know if the Yamaha FC7 expression pedal will work ... I have heard > that for some equipment like the POD DL-4 it won't. > > Thanks, > Steve > > ===== Dumeril7 dumeril7@SPAMBEGONEyahoo.com Anti-spam measures in place -- remove "SPAMBEGONE" from my e-mail address if you want to use it.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 09:36:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA08768; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:32:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:32:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010403133206.2930.qmail@web9613.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 06:32:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Dumeril Seven Subject: Re: Leslie cabinet ... HELL FRIPPIN' YEAH!!! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <003a01c0bba6$dd6dcde0$a438f618@oemcomputer.spardil.mediacom.ispchannel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I absolutely *love* the Hammond/Leslie sound. But I'd hate to be your roadie! ;) D7 --- Eric Williamson wrote: > >I'll be using this live from now on - yet another box to carry ! > > Welcome to the wonderful world of Hammond/Leslie addiction. There are support > groups to be found ... nowhere!! haha ... > > >Is anyone else using leslies ? I have access to another so I'll be hooking > >that one up soon : ) > > I own more Leslies than the Chovits own EDPs. I gig with a pair of 122s and a > Hammond C-3, and can't ever go back. Korg Z1+RDS7.6(with delay time tweak for > that david torn sound)+organ+leslie=incredible sensual experience > > The bad ass leslie, the centrepiece of my collection, is a 31h. Made in 1948, > it > features an electromagnetic (!) woofer, and a 6L6 quartet in the class A amp > circuit. It's also the only leslie that can reproduce the extreme low > frequencies of the Hammond pedalboard, which can give LTJ Bukem a run for his > money. > > Leslies are one of the coolest but _never_ used tools for the creation of > ambient music ... second only to the Hammond (or Pauline Oliveros' accordion, > haha). > > I am lacking any ambient stuff with leslie on my site ... i'll let you guys > know > if that changes. > > Eric Williamson > www.suitandtieguy.com > > > ===== Dumeril7 dumeril7@SPAMBEGONEyahoo.com Anti-spam measures in place -- remove "SPAMBEGONE" from my e-mail address if you want to use it.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 10:17:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA10750; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:14:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:14:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: XJ32@aol.com Message-ID: <14.11f66d6a.27fb3486@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:13:26 EDT Subject: Re: Boomerang, what do you guys think ???? EDP ? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 128 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 04/03/2001 2:08:14 AM Central Daylight Time, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com writes: > So, if you have a spare $400 or so lying around and want a fun, easy to use, > tough as nails looper then go for it. If you're looking for something to > replace an EDP this probably won't cut it. > I cannot seem to find any info on the web as to where I can find an EDP. What stores carry them, does gibson still own them? Oberheiem is now distributed through Armadillo ent, but they have no info on the EDP??? - Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 10:19:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA11225; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:17:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:17:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: XJ32@aol.com Message-ID: <8d.4a89a3e.27fb352c@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:16:12 EDT Subject: Re: Boomerang, what do you guys think ???? EDP ? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 128 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 04/03/2001 2:08:14 AM Central Daylight Time, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com writes: > So, if you have a spare $400 or so lying around and want a fun, easy to use, > tough as nails looper then go for it. If you're looking for something to > replace an EDP this probably won't cut it. > I cannot seem to find any info on the web as to where I can find an EDP. What stores carry them, does gibson still own them? Oberheiem is now distributed through Armadillo ent, but they have no info on the EDP??? - Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 10:44:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA12059; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:41:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:41:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: lindsay@pavestone.com Subject: Re: Boomerang, what do you guys think ???? EDP ? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2c February 2, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:34:52 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on dell.pavestone.com/Pavestone(Release 5.0.4a |July 24, 2000) at 04/03/2001 09:35:23 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >I cannot seem to find any info on the web as to where I can find an EDP. >What stores carry them, does gibson still own them? Although there are plenty of intimately EDP-related merchants, developers, designers and afficianados on this group that will probably chime in on this one, explaining that Gibson owns Trace Elliot which owns Oberheim which makes the EDP under license from Blah, regulated by Blah, tested by Blah, shipped through Blah.... I did want to say that Alto Music (www.altomusic.com) is a great resource for your gear. I've dealt with them only once (on recommendation from this list) and I was glad I did. Fast, friendly (on the phone AND via email) and I got a great price (and I used to work at Guitar Center, so I get the friend-in-the-biz-c'mon-hook-a-brother-up discount). BTW: about this soundcard issue. Alto (wink, wink) also carries RME Hammerfall products. Best card available, though it is digital I/O only. But that's fine: you don't want your converters in the computer anyway. Pair that with a good ADAT-capable converter (there are plenty) or a digital board (like my 01V) and you're set. Not the cheapest, by far, but pro sound, pro performance and room to grow galore. I'm so confidant in my opinion that I'll call this my $0.16. L From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 11:10:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA14323; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:06:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:06:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 09:53:42 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: OT--FS300 Footswitch Wiring To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <014701c0bc4d$e0986000$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 References: <000d01c0bb08$6e5e9a40$11624442@austin.rr.com> <001701c0bbbe$aaf77ba0$582078d8@prelayomb> <00c001c0bbc7$fcd075e0$080210ac@jpalmer> <003301c0bbd9$48b20ee0$f92078d8@prelayomb> X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > > did you keep the diodes that were in it? > > I never removed any parts (!) > > > Oh--that's very different. Guess I'm not as smart as I thought-- > I'm not sure what to do now. > Gary > whoah... that certainly explains the weird behavior... if you never removed the original wiring, then you should just be able to remove the resistors you added and be back to square one. of course, i think you should try it on your edp with the diodes removed, but that's just me. i like those big, metal click-clacking buttons. speaking of which, i have noticed that you can hear them click in the loop if you are using a microphone that is pointed towards them (i have heard it when looping congas) i am thinking about trying a sustain pedal as a record button. p.s. everyone is as smart as they think... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 11:10:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA14060; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:06:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:06:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 10:02:35 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: PMC10 programming To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <014d01c0bc4f$1e4e9a80$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 References: X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i don't know about the pmc10, but you need two control signals to emulate the fs300. switch a connects the tip to the sleeve, switch b connects the ring to the sleeve, and switch c connects both tip and ring to the sleeve (it uses diodes to keep signals from going from tip to ring and from ring to tip) if the pmc10 has two ext switch jacks, maybe you could connect one to the tip and one to the ring, etc... From: "Steve Ginn" > I apologize for being off topic, except that I don't know of another list > where there is such a concentration of PMC10 users. If it would please > those on the list, reply to me off list if possible. > > I am trying to further program my PMC10 to do things other than just change > patches and I am trying to understand the manual. Specifically, I would > like to control my MPX1 effects processor with it so that I don't have to > keep an additional FS300 on the side for Tap, A/B and Bypass. What I have > done is connect a TRS cable from the EXT Switch jack to the Footswitch Jack > on the MPX1 (in place of the FS300). Then I have tried combinations of > toggle, momentary, etc. to get the MPX1 to respond to the same signals it > was getting from the FS300. I seemed to have gotten the Tap Tempo signal > working which originally mapped to Switch A on the FS300, but I still can't > get Switch B (A/B) and Switch C (Bypass) duplicated on the PMC10. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Steve > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 11:32:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA14885; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:29:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:29:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Kevin Mulvihill" To: Subject: RE: Boomerang, what do you guys think ???? EDP ? 01V? Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 08:33:07 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I second the endorsement of Alto Music. I've bought a lot of gear from there. Never yet needed any service, but their prices are killer and they ship in a timely manner. I'm curious... how do you like your 01V? I have an AW4416, but may change to a computer-based DAW. Editing is prehistoric on the 4416. What's the rest of your setup like? (HW/SW)... Thanks, Kevin > digital board (like my 01V) and you're set. Not the cheapest, by far, but > pro sound, pro performance and room to grow galore. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 11:34:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA15438; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:31:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:31:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:28:56 -0500 (EST) From: Adam Levin To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Acid Pro @ Best Buy redux Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I *did* end up picking up Acid Pro 2.0 at Best Buy for the $149.99 sale price and it *does* look like imminent arrival of 3.0 might have had something to do with the price drop because there's a sticker on the box saying that if you purchase 2.0 from Jan 1 2001 - April 15 2001 you will be eligible for a free upgrade to 3.0 when it's released. So anyone who wants to get in on this upgrade deal should do so within the next couple of weeks. -Adam ---- T h e D a r k A e t h e r P r o j e c t http://www.darkaether.net/ http://mp3.com/darkaether/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 12:28:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA17858; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:24:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:24:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: lindsay@pavestone.com Subject: OT: My set-up (was: 'Rang? EDP? 01V?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2c February 2, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:17:53 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on dell.pavestone.com/Pavestone(Release 5.0.4a |July 24, 2000) at 04/03/2001 11:18:24 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >I'm curious... how do you like your 01V? I have an AW4416, but may change to >a computer-based DAW. Editing is prehistoric on the 4416. What's the rest of >your setup like? (HW/SW)... Ok, now this configuration is VERY new and to tell the truth, I haven't had much time to find the errors in it, yet, as there indubitably will be. But, here's what I've got: Dell Poweredge 4200 dual-PIII 800 512MB 133ECC RAM 2x 18GB 7200RPM SCSII HD 8x4x32 CD-RW RME Project Hammerfall Lite (2x ADAT I/O) Cubase 5.0.3 ACID Pro 2.0 Sound Forge 4.5 Reason 1.0 Yamaha 01V w/ ADAT expansion card Mackie SR24-4 24ch, 4-bus analog board Tascam stand alone CD burner (I forget the model) 2x Line6 DL4 Korg AM8000R Lexicon MPX-100 Electrix Filter Factory Electrix Repeater Beta Just Kidding Line6 POD v1 Yahama DG-1 Stomp Buncha Crap We're in the process of building our new studio space, so we haven't got everything in its permanant place. What I can tell you is that the Hammerfall works beutifully under Win2000 (needed to capitalize on the dual processors) and that Cubase hasn't misbehaved yet. I'm still working on the integration of the 01V with Cubase. It should be easier than I'm probably making it, seeing that 01V support is built in. To tell the truth, I'm a bit of a MIDIphobe. Never really worked with it before, but am confronted with a MIDI-controlled studio, so have to dive in. I'm definately still learning. But for basic tracking, up to eight at a time, the set-up is flawless so far. I'm sure someone with more experience working with a MIDI control surface or the 01V as such could help out more--I'd sure listen. I'd love to switch over to SAWStudio, with its super-efficient coding, dual-processor support and integration of the 01V as a control surface. $2500 is a bit stiff, though. Oh, and I need a real patchbay. Currently, the Mackie board is serving as a pseudo patch bay/switching device. It works, though. But in terms of your real question: how do I like the 01V?--I love it. Sounds great. The on-board effects are good, the compression and EQ especially. The way I plan to work, though, means that if I don't intend to print those effects to track, I won't benefit from them 'cause I'll be mixing in the computer. Still nice to have, though. And I don't think I could ever mix or edit without some sort of tactile interface again. It is sooooo much faster and intuitive. There are a lot of control surface units coming out: Mackie's HUI and now with Logic, the Logic Control. Events USB thing. Steinberg's Houston. Motormix. The Peavey thing. Lots. And there's definately a reason why. L From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 12:28:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA18158; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:25:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:25:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Mike McGary" To: Subject: RE: PMC10 programming Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:29:01 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Is it possible that these functions have a MIDI command tied to them, too? Check the manual carefully. If so, you got it made. Don't worry about the EXT jack...just go with MIDI commands. I do this with my EDP and I'm really happy with the results. Mike McGary > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Ginn [mailto:sginn@airmail.net] > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 9:53 PM > To: Loopers Delight > Subject: OT: PMC10 programming > > > I apologize for being off topic, except that I don't know of another list > where there is such a concentration of PMC10 users. If it would please > those on the list, reply to me off list if possible. > > I am trying to further program my PMC10 to do things other than > just change > patches and I am trying to understand the manual. Specifically, I would > like to control my MPX1 effects processor with it so that I don't have to > keep an additional FS300 on the side for Tap, A/B and Bypass. What I have > done is connect a TRS cable from the EXT Switch jack to the > Footswitch Jack > on the MPX1 (in place of the FS300). Then I have tried combinations of > toggle, momentary, etc. to get the MPX1 to respond to the same signals it > was getting from the FS300. I seemed to have gotten the Tap Tempo signal > working which originally mapped to Switch A on the FS300, but I > still can't > get Switch B (A/B) and Switch C (Bypass) duplicated on the PMC10. > > Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Steve > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 12:51:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA18948; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:47:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:47:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00c601c0bc5d$87c774b0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: Subject: Re: Electrix repeater Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:45:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Patrick! Welcome to the list! > Anybody had a chance to use the new Electrix Repeater? ... I think Santa Claus, the Boogie Man, and the Tooth Fairy are the only ones currently using Repeaters. And they never answer my email! :) [Check the archives to glean the meager humor from my comment.] Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 13:06:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA20605; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:03:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:03:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Boomerang, what do you guys think ???? EDP ? Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:56:29 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yeah, I'd agree that Alto are the best guys to get an EDP from, Andy, Trace Elliot R&D, Part of Gibson Guitar Corporation, Making the Echoplex, That used to be Oberheim's :-) > -----Original Message----- > From: lindsay@pavestone.com [mailto:lindsay@pavestone.com] > Sent: 03 April 2001 15:35 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Boomerang, what do you guys think ???? EDP ? > > > > >I cannot seem to find any info on the web as to where I can > find an EDP. > >What stores carry them, does gibson still own them? > > Although there are plenty of intimately EDP-related > merchants, developers, > designers and afficianados on this group that will probably > chime in on > this one, explaining that Gibson owns Trace Elliot which owns Oberheim > which makes the EDP under license from Blah, regulated by > Blah, tested by > Blah, shipped through Blah.... I did want to say that Alto Music > (www.altomusic.com) is a great resource for your gear. I've > dealt with > them only once (on recommendation from this list) and I was > glad I did. > Fast, friendly (on the phone AND via email) and I got a great > price (and I > used to work at Guitar Center, so I get the > friend-in-the-biz-c'mon-hook-a-brother-up discount). > > BTW: about this soundcard issue. Alto (wink, wink) also carries RME > Hammerfall products. Best card available, though it is > digital I/O only. > But that's fine: you don't want your converters in the > computer anyway. > Pair that with a good ADAT-capable converter (there are plenty) or a > digital board (like my 01V) and you're set. Not the > cheapest, by far, but > pro sound, pro performance and room to grow galore. > > I'm so confidant in my opinion that I'll call this my $0.16. > > L > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 13:06:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA20994; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:04:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:04:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 12:00:56 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: Electrix repeater To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <01b501c0bc5f$a6f8eba0$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 References: <00c601c0bc5d$87c774b0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > I think Santa Claus, the Boogie Man, and the Tooth Fairy are the only ones > currently using Repeaters. And they never answer my email! :) i think they also have been playing with some kyma loop tools... ps. i refuse to add a cheasy, smileyface emoticon but i promise i'm smiling. and wagging my tail, too... and waitin' for the one day.... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 13:29:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA21824; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:26:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:26:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACA074D.E8039BC2@ernieball.com> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 10:24:30 -0700 Organization: Ernie Ball, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Sound card References: <200104031706.NAA21201@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Hans Lindauer Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com If I remember correctly, Stevie Wonder recorded _Songs_in_the_Key_of_Life_ on a very early digital recorder. Does anybody know what the bit depth/sampling frequency was on that gear? -Hans > > More power to you if you have better fidelity equipment. I just ask for > a little compassion for those of us who do not. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 13:42:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA22474; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:38:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:38:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.174.121.53] From: "Patrick Bailey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix repeater Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 10:36:31 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Apr 2001 17:36:31.0636 (UTC) FILETIME=[9EFAC540:01C0BC64] Resent-Message-ID: <659G-C.A.icF._ogy6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey, its me again!! I was wondering if anybody out there has heard of the echoplus digital pro and the Legsicon Jam Boy or something? Are they any good? ahem... sorry, I couldn't help it. >From: "Dennis Leas" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >Subject: Re: Electrix repeater >Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:45:45 -0500 > >Hi Patrick! > >Welcome to the list! > > > Anybody had a chance to use the new Electrix Repeater? ... > >I think Santa Claus, the Boogie Man, and the Tooth Fairy are the only ones >currently using Repeaters. And they never answer my email! :) > >[Check the archives to glean the meager humor from my comment.] > >Dennis Leas >------------------- >dennis@mdbs.com > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 13:43:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA22805; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:40:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:40:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.174.121.53] From: "Patrick Bailey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Sound cards Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 10:39:09 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Apr 2001 17:39:09.0757 (UTC) FILETIME=[FD3A1ED0:01C0BC64] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I noticed the posts regarding sound cards- I recently bought a Lexicon Core 2 card for my new PC that is on order. Anybody have one of these that wants to share their ups n' downs with this card? thanks, pat _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 13:48:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23641; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:45:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:45:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [205.155.22.153] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix repeater Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 17:43:52 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Apr 2001 17:43:52.0373 (UTC) FILETIME=[A5ADE650:01C0BC65] Resent-Message-ID: <_zdvH.A.PpF.3vgy6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

The echoplus is one of my favorites.   I find the Legsicon Jam Boy easier to use.  the repeatavox is coming out soon.  the Fine 666 has lots of great features. One of each is a must..............

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>>From: "Dennis Leas"
>>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>>To:
>>Subject: Re: Electrix repeater
>>Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:45:45 -0500
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>>Hi Patrick!
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>>Welcome to the list!
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>> > Anybody had a chance to use the new Electrix Repeater? ...
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>>I think Santa Claus, the Boogie Man, and the Tooth Fairy are the
>>only ones
>>currently using Repeaters. And they never answer my email! :)
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>>[Check the archives to glean the meager humor from my comment.]
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>>Dennis Leas
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>>dennis@mdbs.com
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 13:53:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23646; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:45:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:45:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB03F@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Sound card Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:44:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0BC65.CA064060" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BC65.CA064060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" i find that hard to believe - - that album came out in . . . 1976. maybe it was another stevie record. stig -----Original Message----- From: Hans Lindauer [mailto:hans@ernieball.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:25 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sound card If I remember correctly, Stevie Wonder recorded _Songs_in_the_Key_of_Life_ on a very early digital recorder. Does anybody know what the bit depth/sampling frequency was on that gear? -Hans > > More power to you if you have better fidelity equipment. I just ask for > a little compassion for those of us who do not. > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BC65.CA064060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: Sound card

i find that hard to believe  - - that album came out in . . . 1976. maybe it was another stevie record.

stig

-----Original Message-----
From: Hans Lindauer [mailto:hans@ernieball.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:25 AM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Sound card


If I remember correctly, Stevie Wonder recorded _Songs_in_the_Key_of_Life_ on a very
early digital recorder.  Does anybody know what the bit depth/sampling frequency was
on that gear?

-Hans

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>  More power to you if you have better fidelity equipment.    I just ask for
> a little compassion for those of us who do not.
>

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BC65.CA064060-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 13:56:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA24265; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:53:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:53:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [204.253.195.194] From: "matt davignon" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: mp3 encoder? Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 10:52:37 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Apr 2001 17:52:37.0853 (UTC) FILETIME=[DEE3C8D0:01C0BC66] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Could anybody suggest a free mp3 encoder for me? I used to use Audiocatalyst, but I reformatted, and now all I have access to is the "trial version". I tried MusicMatch Jukebox (or something like that), but either it doesn't list the CD tracks (so I can't pick which ones to encode), or it tries to burn the mp3 tracks to a new CD-R. Ideally, I'd like one that could do CD (or .wav) to mp3 and also mp3 to .wav. Anybody? anybody? Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 14:01:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA24452; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:58:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 13:58:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [64.241.47.11] Reply-To: "Gregg Pavone" From: "Gregg Pavone" To: References: Subject: Re: mp3 encoder? Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 12:18:05 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Apr 2001 17:56:31.0418 (UTC) FILETIME=[6A1AF9A0:01C0BC67] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Try the MKW Audio Compression Toolkit. ----- Original Message ----- From: "matt davignon" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 11:52 AM Subject: mp3 encoder? Could anybody suggest a free mp3 encoder for me? I used to use Audiocatalyst, but I reformatted, and now all I have access to is the "trial version". I tried MusicMatch Jukebox (or something like that), but either it doesn't list the CD tracks (so I can't pick which ones to encode), or it tries to burn the mp3 tracks to a new CD-R. Ideally, I'd like one that could do CD (or .wav) to mp3 and also mp3 to .wav. Anybody? anybody? Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 14:37:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA26898; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:35:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:35:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.148.1.172] From: "Peter Underwood" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: OT: While we're talkin' Sound Cards Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 11:34:06 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Apr 2001 18:34:06.0972 (UTC) FILETIME=[AA8533C0:01C0BC6C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I came across this offer from Zzounds: http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=p.YAMDS2416AX44&a=em032701 It sounds like a great deal, but I haven't heard anything about this card. Is anyone on the list familiar with it and can offer a quick review? -skully _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 14:53:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA27417; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:48:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:48:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003701c0bc6a$27088940$4b0218ac@jnpr.net> From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: References: <200104030706.DAA28518@hemlock.violacea.com> <006201c0bc19$e58b74a0$4a81e3a5@looppool> Subject: Still WOT Re: Sound card Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:15:59 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Someone else's point of veiw on the audio quality of the Sound blaster. http://www.ethanwiner.com/soundcards.html http://www.prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/b97f38ca2751fda58625680900056bad/e 5f90f70241eff6d862566b20024c532?OpenDocument http://www.prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/files/E8FC6F1272005BC0862568D70063 4565 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 15:00:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA28075; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:58:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 14:58:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010403144128.00c1de30@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu> X-Sender: km15@postoffice.mail.cornell.edu X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 14:57:04 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: kevin miller Subject: RE: Sound card In-Reply-To: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB03F@migarexch01.marit z.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 01:44 PM 4/3/01 -0400, you wrote: > >i find that hard to believe - - that album came out in . . . 1976. > maybe it was another stevie record. > > >stig > >-----Original Message----- > >>From: Hans Lindauer [mailto:hans@ernieball.com] > >>Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 10:25 AM > >>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >>Subject: Re: Sound card > > >>If I remember correctly, Stevie Wonder recorded > _Songs_in_the_Key_of_Life_ on a very > >>early digital recorder. Does anybody know what the bit depth/sampling > frequency was > >>on that gear? Ry Cooder's Bop Til You Drop was the first major-label (Warner, 1979) record to be recorded digitally. As far as I know, there was no looping on it!, but it is a great sounding LP. Sorry, not sure of the specs on that though... Kev From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 15:05:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29423; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:03:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:03:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20010403140136.0083b3e0@mail.airmail.net> X-Sender: mcl451@mail.airmail.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 14:01:36 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Michael Clark Subject: Re: Electrix repeater In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Good questions! Volumes of info in the archives. Best to check the archives, first. A lot of what you want to know has been discussed in great detail and is a bit worn at the moment. Archives. Welcome to the list! M... At 10:36 AM 4/3/01 -0700, you wrote: >Hey, its me again!! > >I was wondering if anybody out there has heard of the echoplus digital pro >and the Legsicon Jam Boy or something? Are they any good? > > > > > > > > > >ahem... > >sorry, I couldn't help it. > > > > > > >>From: "Dennis Leas" >>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>To: >>Subject: Re: Electrix repeater >>Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:45:45 -0500 >> >>Hi Patrick! >> >>Welcome to the list! >> >> > Anybody had a chance to use the new Electrix Repeater? ... >> >>I think Santa Claus, the Boogie Man, and the Tooth Fairy are the only ones >>currently using Repeaters. And they never answer my email! :) >> >>[Check the archives to glean the meager humor from my comment.] >> >>Dennis Leas >>------------------- >>dennis@mdbs.com >> >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 15:20:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29887; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:18:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:18:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001401c0bc72$85673100$eab11597@invisibleloop> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: References: Subject: Re: Sound cards Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 21:15:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick Bailey" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 7:39 PM Subject: Sound cards > I noticed the posts regarding sound cards- > > I recently bought a Lexicon Core 2 card for my new PC that is on order. > Anybody have one of these that wants to share their ups n' downs with this > card? > > thanks, pat Hi, Pat. I'm using that Lexicon card on almost everything since February 2000. I found it great, it has only some little bugs in its drivers. (Please everybody write lexicon to remember them that the Athlons are equal to or better than Intels.) The drivers have some bugs (read the read.me of the various driver updates), they are non 100% compatible with AMD processors and motherboards. I'm currently using it in a Duron machine, and I have used it for a year on a PII 266, and I find it great, expecially the dbx feature on the analog ins. I've even used it in a studio and with almost every program existing for the Win98 O.S., and I've got great results. P.S. for the S.B. Live question. Have you all ever tried to use it with ASIO drivers? For an amateaur or for game playing that is a great card, you could even try to use it with Sound Fonts, and get great results, but don't try to use it for VST2.0 virtual synths in real-time under cubasis or cubase vst. Beside, where the heck are the features announced from Creative Labs on Liveware 3? They announced Dinamic Memory Allocation for the sound fonts. where is it? Hi all, Luigi. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 15:56:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA31364; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:54:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:54:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 20:38:03 -0400 (EDT) From: noah X-Sender: fishmong@aint-got-nothin.mit.edu To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sound cards (core2) In-Reply-To: <001401c0bc72$85673100$eab11597@invisibleloop> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Hi, Pat. > I'm using that Lexicon card on almost everything since February 2000. I > found it great, it has only some little bugs in its drivers. (Please > everybody write lexicon to remember them that the Athlons are equal to or > better than Intels.) The drivers have some bugs (read the read.me of the > various driver updates), they are non 100% compatible with AMD processors > and motherboards. I'm currently using it in a Duron machine, and I have used > it for a year on a PII 266, and I find it great, expecially the dbx feature > on the analog ins. I've even used it in a studio and with almost every > program existing for the Win98 O.S., and I've got great results. Alas, writing to Lexicon will not help. I contacted them to find out about Win2K or NT support, and they (not very nicely) told me they have no intentions of providing support for any Lexicon desktop audio product, and that they were pulling out of that market. Even the multi-thousand dollar Core32/PC90 setups. Sob. I figured 4 in 8 out, 24/96, with spdif for less than 200 was way too good to be true. On another note, I recently grabbed an M-Audio Delta 44, and it's very very nice. Very, very, very, very nice. In fact, I didn't realize one of my mixer's preamps was compressing and clipping until I switched. And the software mixer is genius. And the ASIO drivers are glitch-free and under 30ms latency even with the win2000 WDM hell. Endorse, endorse, endorse. In fact, I want to add a 66 to my setup for 8 in/out plus spdif... -><- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 18:46:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA06205; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:34:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:34:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00ac01c0bc8e$03cfc5a0$3f666ec3@abu10784> From: "Massimo Liverani" To: References: <002401c0bb00$6b0d4600$5f676ec3@abu10784> <000f01c0bb81$a69790a0$7eac6fd4@dolly> Subject: R: A guitarloop work. Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:32:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: <2QwGWB.A.egB.6-ky6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Hey Max, > > When is the performance? In June, for the exact date i'll tell you. > Wouldn't it be better to post up an MP3 of your CD? Yes, i'm going to post some mp3 demos in www.mbh.it in the sounds page. Ok? thanks MaX From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 18:48:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA06207; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:34:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:34:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00ab01c0bc8e$0341dd80$3f666ec3@abu10784> From: "Massimo Liverani" To: References: Subject: R: A guitarloop work. Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:29:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Coincidenze.. > Ho 44 anni, sono un chitarrista (Italiano anche se vivo in Inghilterra) e ho > cominciato a suonare looped guitars molti anni fa dopo aver sentito i primi > esperimenti di Fripp. Mi fa piacere! Beato te! Da quanto tempo vivi in inghilterra? > Ho un piccola casa di distribuzione di musica "insolita" su Internet, se mi > mandi una copia del tuo CD magari posso includerlo nel catalogo. > Il sito è in via di completo rifacimento perchè è cresciuto troppo e la > pagina catalogo con i campioni musicali dai vari cd è diventata lenta. Tra > un paio di settimane il nuovo sito, con molti nuovi CD e la possibilità di > pagare con carta di credito, sarà attivato. Ok! appena pronto ti manderò una copia. > Dai un'occhiata a com'è al momento e se ti sembra adatto mandami una copia > dei tuoi lavori e vediamo se riesco a vendertene un po'. Volentieri! alcuni dei nostri lavori non loopers sono in vendita da www.peoplesound.com (Distant Noise e Noise Theoria) Per gli altri puoi trovare informazioni al seguente indirizzo: www.mbh.it Ti ringrazio per l'interessamento! Max From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 19:37:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA09015; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:35:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:35:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JHKNICKS@aol.com Message-ID: <98.12dfb60d.27fbb7d3@aol.com> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:33:39 EDT Subject: Re: renting a johnson stereo 150 while in new york ... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 128 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com SIR Studios 212 627 4900 ask for Ralph and tell him Jon from Alto sent you. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 19:57:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA09683; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:55:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:55:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACA62B6.170B8CAB@zerocrossing.net> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 16:54:30 -0700 X-Sybari-Trust: 006925cd 050014e1 00000000 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Electrix repeater References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Don't forget the Elektros Againinator. best, Gern Blanston David Potter wrote: > > > The echoplus is one of my favorites. I find the Legsicon Jam Boy > easier to use. the repeatavox is coming out soon. the Fine 666 has > lots of great features. One of each is a must.............. > > > >I was wondering if anybody out there has heard of the echoplus > >digital pro > >and the Legsicon Jam Boy or something? Are they any good? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ahem... > > > >sorry, I couldn't help it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>From: "Dennis Leas" > >>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >>To: > >>Subject: Re: Electrix repeater > >>Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:45:45 -0500 > >> > >>Hi Patrick! > >> > >>Welcome to the list! > >> > >> > Anybody had a chance to use the new Electrix Repeater? ... > >> > >>I think Santa Claus, the Boogie Man, and the Tooth Fairy are the > >>only ones > >>currently using Repeaters. And they never answer my email! :) > >> > >>[Check the archives to glean the meager humor from my comment.] > >> > >>Dennis Leas > >>------------------- > >>dennis@mdbs.com > >> > >> > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 19:57:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA09837; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:56:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:56:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Todd Pafford To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Sound cards (core2) and Rant Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:57:05 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.95.2] Content-Type: text/plain References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01040319570500.10336@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <-ws4-C.A.lXC.1Lmy6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Mon, 12 May 1997, noah wrote: > ...they were pulling out of that market. Even the multi-thousand dollar > Core32/PC90 setups. Sob. I figured 4 in 8 out, 24/96, with spdif for less > than 200 was way too good to be true. Sigh. That does make me sad. I'm a big fan of Lexicon's stuff and was hoping to try their Core system some day. Guess not. On a related note... Am I the only one that thinks 4 ins and 8 outs is backwards? My logic being that using your sequencing software of choice (cakewalk, cubase, whatever) you basically have a multitrack recorder. I mean, that's the point, right? So who would buy an x-track recorder (where x is some large number depending on your software) if it only had 4 ins? It'd be nice to be able to record more than 2 musicians (stereo) at a time after all. Hell, I can concieve using more than 4 mics on the drums alone. And it's not just the Lexicon. Most cards I've seen have 2 or 4 ins with some ungodly number of outs. What gives? I want inputs damnit! ;) All I really need as far as outputs is line level stereo. What am I going to do, spray the outgoing signal into a DAT, speakers, headphones, MiniDisc, a post effects chain, external mixer, tape deck, and my blender all at one time? Oh sure, I could drop it to 8track tape, but what's the point? I've already got it on disc. Hear me manufacturers of the world! Build a card that has 8+ ins and 2 outs and I will buy one maybe two. Furthermore, just to keep you in business, I'll try my damnedest to convice 1000 people on the street to buy one as well. :) Whew, that's been sitting on my chest for a long time. :) Todd From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 22:41:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA17655; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 22:39:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 22:39:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <007e01c0bcb1$20142bc0$11624442@austin.rr.com> From: "Jimmy George" To: References: <98.12dfb60d.27fbb7d3@aol.com> Subject: Re: renting a johnson stereo 150 while in new york ... Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 21:44:09 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hey this is great! thanks jon!! i will call them tomorrow and inquire. wow i really appreciate your help! what do you know about flying and larger items stored in cargo? best to you jimmy george http://www.jimmygeorgearts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 6:33 PM Subject: Re: renting a johnson stereo 150 while in new york ... > SIR Studios 212 627 4900 ask for Ralph and tell him Jon from Alto sent you. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 23:19:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA19863; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 23:17:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 23:17:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mibeck@143.229.1.6 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <003701c0bc6a$27088940$4b0218ac@jnpr.net> References: <200104030706.DAA28518@hemlock.violacea.com> <006201c0bc19$e58b74a0$4a81e3a5@looppool> <003701c0bc6a$27088940$4b0218ac@jnpr.net> Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 23:16:33 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Michael Beck Subject: Re: Still WOT Re: Sound card Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Someone else's point of veiw on the audio quality of the Sound blaster. Some clarification is evidently in order. I have no way of knowing how good the sound generational aspects of the SBLive are. By all accounts, the whole sample-playback thing is pretty cool. And the D/A might be good, too, although I would venture to say that any converters shoe-horned into a PCI card have an uphill battle. But again, I wouldn't know anything about that, never having used an SBLive myself. My comments were merely to point out that the SBLive doesn't do what you would expect & give you a bit-accurate copy: instead, it resamples everything coming into its digital inputs to 48KHz, regardless of the incoming signal's actual sample rate. Thus there is the *potential* for sound degradation. Now, again, this may or may not result in any audible problems. However, even if it did, you would not hear anything wrong with the sample playback or the digital or analog *outputs* of the card. This problem is limited SOLELY to the digital *inputs*: the data that your software gets is not an exact duplicate of the signal your DAT machine (or external converters, effects box, ADAT, etc.) puts out. Again, you probably won't hear this after just 1 pass. But if you habitually send data out to an external processor and route the audio back into your computer through the digital inputs, for example, you must consider the possibility of audible distortion. Now, if you do this several times within a project, the same audio data could be resampled 4 or 5 times before you mix it and burn it or dump it to DAT or whatever, even if all your transfers are at standard 48KHz. That could be a problem. Perhaps. With the apparent widespread availability of cheap bit-for-bit digital input cards, if you're really worried about this there are alternatives. Keep your SBLive for sample playback and analog output, and add a second card for accurate digital input. Or if you're buying a new card altogether, keep this in mind & weigh it against the SBLive's other attractions, like the sample playback stuff. As always, YMMV. - Mike From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 3 23:33:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA20614; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 23:31:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 23:31:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001701c0bcb9$6d548080$6501a8c0@bIz> From: "Jon" To: References: <001401c0bc72$85673100$eab11597@invisibleloop> Subject: WOT Re: Sound cards Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 20:43:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <6E3_lB.A.qBF.tVpy6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > P.S. for the S.B. Live question. Have you all ever tried to use it with ASIO > drivers? For an amateaur or for game playing that is a great card, you could > even try to use it with Sound Fonts, and get great results, but don't try to > use it for VST2.0 virtual synths in real-time under cubasis or cubase vst. > Beside, where the heck are the features announced from Creative Labs on > Liveware 3? They announced Dinamic Memory Allocation for the sound fonts. > where is it? There are freeware programs that can do that. Megafont, I think it's called? Interesting that you would feel that the VST synth don't work on it. I was told that the card has super low ASIO latency. I've never tried it myself. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 01:04:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA24601; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 01:02:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 01:02:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4A9A@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: loop gig wednesday Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:01:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey , I will be playing the last of three solo electric guitar gigs at Bear's place WEdnesday April 4th - 10:00pm at Bears place.Wait that's today~~~ I will be playing regular electric guitar and guitar loops done on the fly, all the material is improvised so it's always new. Ok, I lied, I will be playing a couple of tracks from my new CD modern rock guitar.volII 'Alien guitar' as well. If any guitarists want to sit in on a track or two, feel free to bring your ax Say hello if you can make it or just send me $3.00 guilt money for not showing up Thanks Denis Denis Taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com - From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 02:30:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA27258; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 02:27:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 02:27:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001101c0bcd0$f2838960$11624442@austin.rr.com> From: "Jimmy George" To: References: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4A9A@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Subject: Re: loop gig wednesday Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 01:31:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com where is this? jimmy george http://www.jimmygeorgearts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Taaffe, Denis G To: Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 12:01 AM Subject: loop gig wednesday > Hey , > > I will be playing the last of three solo electric guitar gigs > at > > Bear's place WEdnesday April 4th - 10:00pm at Bears place.Wait that's > today~~~ > > > I will be playing regular electric guitar and guitar loops done on the fly, > all the material is improvised so it's always new. Ok, I lied, I will be > playing a couple of tracks from my new CD modern rock guitar.volII 'Alien > guitar' as well. If any guitarists want to sit in on a track or two, feel > free to bring your ax > > > Say hello if you can make it or just send me $3.00 guilt money for not > showing up > > Thanks > Denis > > Denis Taaffe > denis_aliengtr@geocities.com > http://www.dtguitar.com > > - > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 03:04:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA29109; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 03:02:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 03:02:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010404070144.71299.qmail@web10001.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:01:44 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: Electrix repeater To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Don't forget the Poonatang & the Lime Sux. I couldn't help it either. :) --- Patrick Bailey wrote: > Hey, its me again!! > > I was wondering if anybody out there has heard of > the echoplus digital pro > and the Legsicon Jam Boy or something? Are they any > good? > > > ahem... > > sorry, I couldn't help it. ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 04:26:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA31559; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 04:23:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 04:23:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACADA91.976BBA48@cloud9.net> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 04:25:53 -0400 From: Mountain Man X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #189 References: <200104040319.XAA20219@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9aA1m.A.4sH.Fnty6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com No, never have, but what about the ToeJam? Allows you to make music with your feet, as long as you keep your socks on :) Elby --------------------------------------------------- Hey, its me again!! I was wondering if anybody out there has heard of the echoplus digital pro and the Legsicon Jam Boy or something? Are they any good? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 05:17:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA01108; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 05:15:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 05:15:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACB01CC.81646483@vtx.ch> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 11:13:16 +0000 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #189 ToeJam? References: <200104040319.XAA20219@hemlock.violacea.com> <3ACADA91.976BBA48@cloud9.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Elby Check http://www.loopers-delight.com/LDarchive/200005/msg00642.html or the whole thread http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/wilma_glimpse/LDarchive?query=barefoot+looping&Search=Search&lineonly=on&errors=0&maxfiles=1000&maxlines=0&.cgifields=lineonly&.cgifields=filelist&.cgifields=case&.cgifields=partial&.cgifields=restricttofiles :=) claude Mountain Man wrote: > > No, never have, but what about the ToeJam? Allows you to make music > with your feet, as long as you keep your socks on :) > > Elby > > --------------------------------------------------- > > Hey, its me again!! > > I was wondering if anybody out there has heard of the echoplus digital > pro > and the Legsicon Jam Boy or something? Are they any good? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 07:47:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA05564; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 07:45:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 07:45:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: From: "Mike Feeney" To: Subject: RE: mp3 encoder? Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 06:44:25 -0500 Message-ID: <000101c0bcfc$9972ec40$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I use one called dbPowerAmp which I downloaded from www.download.com ... that's a good page to start with, they have loads of free shareware / freeware up for grabs (including a category for mp3 encoders). That software is a little buggy for me sometimes, but overall works pretty well. It allows you to convert to both mp3 and wav from a source CD, file, or even from incoming audio from your soundcard. What's funny is that I did the same thing... I used to use AudioCatalyst until I reformatted... =) I miss it. MusicMatch seems to work fairly well once you learn the not-particularly-intuitive-or-logical interface. =) -Mike -----Original Message----- From: matt davignon [mailto:mattdavignon@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:53 PM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: mp3 encoder? Could anybody suggest a free mp3 encoder for me? I used to use Audiocatalyst, but I reformatted, and now all I have access to is the "trial version". I tried MusicMatch Jukebox (or something like that), but either it doesn't list the CD tracks (so I can't pick which ones to encode), or it tries to burn the mp3 tracks to a new CD-R. Ideally, I'd like one that could do CD (or .wav) to mp3 and also mp3 to .wav. Anybody? anybody? Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 09:47:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA10261; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:44:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:44:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <01d001c0bd0d$4be90200$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4A9A@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Subject: Re: loop gig wednesday Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 08:43:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <_PqIu.A.GgC.JUyy6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey Denis! Wishing you a good gig tonight! Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 12:01 AM Subject: loop gig wednesday > Hey , > > I will be playing the last of three solo electric guitar gigs > at > > Bear's place WEdnesday April 4th - 10:00pm at Bears place.Wait that's > today~~~ > > > I will be playing regular electric guitar and guitar loops done on the fly, > all the material is improvised so it's always new. Ok, I lied, I will be > playing a couple of tracks from my new CD modern rock guitar.volII 'Alien > guitar' as well. If any guitarists want to sit in on a track or two, feel > free to bring your ax > > > Say hello if you can make it or just send me $3.00 guilt money for not > showing up > > Thanks > Denis > > Denis Taaffe > denis_aliengtr@geocities.com > http://www.dtguitar.com > > - > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 10:30:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA12230; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:27:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:27:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4AAB@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: loop gig wednesday Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:25:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com oops o hyeah this is in Bloomington,IN just a few hundred miles away 8-) Denis Denis Taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com -----Original Message----- From: Jimmy George [mailto:jimmyg@jimmygeorgearts.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:32 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loop gig wednesday where is this? jimmy george http://www.jimmygeorgearts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Taaffe, Denis G To: Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 12:01 AM Subject: loop gig wednesday > Hey , > > I will be playing the last of three solo electric guitar gigs > at > > Bear's place WEdnesday April 4th - 10:00pm at Bears place.Wait that's > today~~~ > > > I will be playing regular electric guitar and guitar loops done on the fly, > all the material is improvised so it's always new. Ok, I lied, I will be > playing a couple of tracks from my new CD modern rock guitar.volII 'Alien > guitar' as well. If any guitarists want to sit in on a track or two, feel > free to bring your ax > > > Say hello if you can make it or just send me $3.00 guilt money for not > showing up > > Thanks > Denis > > Denis Taaffe > denis_aliengtr@geocities.com > http://www.dtguitar.com > > - > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 10:50:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA12843; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:47:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:47:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACB3333.4FFA36C8@ernieball.com> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 07:44:03 -0700 Organization: Ernie Ball, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: Sound Cards References: <200104040319.XAA20218@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Hans Lindauer Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I stand corrected. It was _Hotter_Than_July_ that I was thinking of. For 1980, I'd say it sounds pretty darn good. I guess I'm not the only on who thought so; it was Stevie Wonder's first platinum album. I searched for info on this album, but all I could find were reviews for the 24-bit remasters. Go figure. My point is, you can still record good music on a low-quality sound card. -Hans > >i find that hard to believe - - that album came out in . . . 1976. > maybe it was another stevie record. > > >stig > > > >>If I remember correctly, Stevie Wonder recorded > _Songs_in_the_Key_of_Life_ on a very > >>early digital recorder. Does anybody know what the bit depth/sampling > frequency was > >>on that gear? Ry Cooder's Bop Til You Drop was the first major-label (Warner, 1979) record to be recorded digitally. As far as I know, there was no looping on it!, but it is a great sounding LP. Sorry, not sure of the specs on that though... Kev From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 11:27:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA14901; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:25:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:25:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <06A9F7A44D8BD411AE0E009027DE4F354637D1@mars.plantronics.com> From: "GRAY, Toby" To: "'Jimmy George'" , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: renting a johnson stereo 150 while in new york ... Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 08:23:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6103 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Some airlines have their bagage specifications posted on the web. These rules are not set in stone though. I've flown with keyboard cases that were larger than "allowed". Preflying your stuff on a cargo flight and picking up when you arrive is one way to make sure there are no last minute snags. Make sure everything is documented, insured, and in locked well padded cases. -----Original Message----- From: Jimmy George hey this is great! thanks jon!! i will call them tomorrow and inquire. wow i really appreciate your help! what do you know about flying and larger items stored in cargo? best to you jimmy george http://www.jimmygeorgearts.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 6:33 PM Subject: Re: renting a johnson stereo 150 while in new york ... > SIR Studios 212 627 4900 ask for Ralph and tell him Jon from Alto sent you. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 12:46:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA18168; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:43:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:43:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <836AEDC9D836D211B4720001FA7EC2D202A79433@ntemail1-tr.ius.indiana.edu> From: "LEE, THANIEL I" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: pelt Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:41:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6104 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com any one out there like pelt. i saw them live awhile back and i thought they rocked in a drone way. keenan lawler and pelt just made arecord together it rocks in a drone way to. it was recorded in a silo. -thaniel ion lee From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 12:55:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA18628; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:52:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:52:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <12.b0cde52.27fcaaf3@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:50:59 EDT Subject: Re: Sound Cards To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_12.b0cde52.27fcaaf3_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_12.b0cde52.27fcaaf3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/4/01 10:46:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time, hans@ernieball.com writes: > My point is, you can still record > good music on a low-quality sound card. > i always thought you could record good music on a 4 trac cassette recorder.....next month when they come out with the amazing Wham Fram sound card will that make everything else not sound so good anymore?.....michael --part1_12.b0cde52.27fcaaf3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/4/01 10:46:42 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
hans@ernieball.com writes:


My point is, you can still record
good music on a low-quality sound card.


i always thought you could record good music on a 4 trac cassette
recorder.....next month when they come out with the amazing Wham Fram sound
card will that make everything else not sound so good anymore?.....michael --part1_12.b0cde52.27fcaaf3_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 13:15:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA21276; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:12:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:12:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008701c0bd2a$956e8c20$cf2cf7c2@zetnet.co.uk> From: "Steve Lawson" To: "Loop List" References: <20010403132957.63830.qmail@web9603.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Expression pedal with PMC10 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:13:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Last night I adapted a Kawai expression pedal to > work with my DL-4. The Line 6 pedals want a mono > plug hooked up to a 10K pot. The Kawai (and some > other expression pedals) use a stereo plug and wire > the plug up so that the usual variable resistance > from the pot goes across the sleeve and ring of > the plug (the Line 6 needs it on the sleeve and > tip). I wired in a little switch to go from > the normal wiring, to one that is compatible with > the Line 6. Seems to me that a technically inclined > person could "repurpose" a Crybaby for use as an > expression pedal, assuming you can find a 10K wah pot.... OK, so will this work with any stereo expression pedal? What would happen if the impedance was wrong? If I buy a Roland or Technics stereo pedal, chop off the stereo plug and attach a mono one in the way described above, with that work? I'm not massively into the idea of spending $$ on a Line 6 pedal, and the Boss EV thingie is even more! Steve web-site - www.steve-lawson.co.uk e-mail - steve@steve-lawson.co.uk mailing list - steve-lawson-subscribe@listbot.com (send a blank e-mail to this address) "Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight, You've got to kick at the darkness till it bleeds daylight" - Bruce Cockburn From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 13:16:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA21075; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:11:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:11:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Subject: Re: pelt and question on bowing To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Curtis P Seiss" Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:56:34 -0400 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on inetmail1/TWP(Release 5.0.6a |January 17, 2001) at 04/04/2001 12:53:56 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i too saw pelt in d.c. -- any droners out there would love pelts use textures to create vivid and often atonal sound-scapes. very "visual" music. im not sure who, but one of the members used a bow on a tambura...it sounded fantastic. question- any loopers out there use a bow on non-bowed instruments? or even non-instruments? (your pet rats metal cage perhaps?) ive always been intrigued by the orchestral saw and the waterfone (sorry for the spelling...) anyone loopng a bowed 12' steel i-beam? i assume when using a bow on a standard 6 string guitar, one would need to build a 'arch' type bridge... has anyone done this? sorry if this post seems elementary, -curt "LEE, THANIEL I" on 04/04/2001 12:41:24 PM Please respond to Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: Subject: pelt any one out there like pelt. i saw them live awhile back and i thought they rocked in a drone way. keenan lawler and pelt just made arecord together it rocks in a drone way to. it was recorded in a silo. -thaniel ion lee From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 13:19:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA20698; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:09:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:09:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005901c0bd29$a89f60e0$d6b51597@invisibleloop> From: "Luigi Meloni" To: References: <001401c0bc72$85673100$eab11597@invisibleloop> <001701c0bcb9$6d548080$6501a8c0@bIz> Subject: Re: WOT Re: Sound cards Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:06:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 5:43 AM Subject: WOT Re: Sound cards > > > P.S. for the S.B. Live question. Have you all ever tried to use it with > ASIO > > drivers? For an amateaur or for game playing that is a great card, you > could > > even try to use it with Sound Fonts, and get great results, but don't try > to > > use it for VST2.0 virtual synths in real-time under cubasis or cubase vst. > > Beside, where the heck are the features announced from Creative Labs on > > Liveware 3? They announced Dinamic Memory Allocation for the sound fonts. > > where is it? > > There are freeware programs that can do that. Megafont, I think it's called? > > Interesting that you would feel that the VST synth don't work on it. I was > told that the card has super low ASIO latency. I've never tried it myself. > > Dunno if I did something wrong in the setup, but Cubase (and Cubasis) give me a very long latency time. 300-400 ms of delay in the beginning of the note. God it is a longer time than my first analog delay unit... Instead, I tried it with an old version of the DSP/FX and it went great. the time was really short. P.S. The only drivers for a Creative I found even on the Steinberg site are for a generic AWE32/64.No Asio. And don't even think to look in the Creative or the Soundblaster site. They are only full of "how good is our hardware... You can play sorround music on it...(bullshit, there is no software on windows that permits to do this and with the drivers you get with the card all of your programs don't see the second output). I think that this is only a commercial choice, as they also sell the EMU ASP, basically a soundblaster live with (perhaps) better A/D and D/A, at almost 2 times the price of a Live Platinum. And the EMU LiveDrive (don't know how it is actually called) is a bit worse than the LiveDriveII.Now I'm using the Lexicon for everything audio, and the Live only for the SoundFonts and some older dos audio softwares (long live FastTracker and Impulse Tracker) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 13:58:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA22459; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:54:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:54:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACB5E6D.2DA66C89@voicenet.com> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 13:48:29 -0400 From: Legion X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: AH , DH , "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: FS: Doepfer MAQ 16/3, Kawai K1m, G1 distortion Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com For sale a few odds and sods around the studio: 1. FS: Doepfer MAQ 16/3 V3 - Excellent+++ condition (used only a few times and has sat in a rack in my studio for the past year). $695 plus shipping and paypal costs if desired (firm). Brand new analog sequencer. This is the latest version with the good solid knobs and full cv/gate in/outs. Three rows of 16 steps each for midi or cv sequencing of whatever the hell you wish. Knob city! Includes power supply and manual. More info at: http://www.doepfer.com/maq_e.htm 2. Kawai KIm - $100 plus shipping. Table top d*gital wavetable synthesizer with joystick. Underrated monster useful for creeping pads, weird noises, and even lush gothic strings and voices. Perfect for midi guitar as a thick polyphonic sound source. In original box with owners manual, wavetable manual (rare to find one of these and it's needed to know what you're programming), and brand new power supply. 3. Korg G1 Distortion Processor - $85. Small powerful floor unit with multiple knobs and foot switches. Can do everything from a tube overdrive to octave fuzz, to shredding distortion each with tone, EQ, and other multiple controls. Allows user ot save up to 9 settings and recall them with the foot switches instantly as well as edit them live if you so desire. Also can be used as a preamp, headphone amp, DI box (has built in amp simulator) and has built in wah wah filter, noise reduction, and digital delay. Nice swiss army knife distortion processor in a clean neat and extremely easy to use package. Excellent condition with original box, manual, and new power supply. I think the prices are very fair but some trades possible as well. I accept paypal from registered members. Buyer prepays and pays shipping or pickup in Phila Pa (greatly preferred if possible!). References out the wazoo and available on request. Serious buyers only please and all deals must be confirmed via phone so send your # and I'll call you on my dime to speed things up. I'll gladly answer any/all questions so just fire away if you're interested. Thanks!! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 14:02:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA22779; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:58:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:58:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <022501c0bd30$cb7fbcc0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: Subject: Re: pelt and question on bowing Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:58:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6110 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > question- any loopers out there use a bow on non-bowed instruments? or > even non-instruments? (your pet rats metal cage perhaps?) ive always been > intrigued by the orchestral saw and the waterfone (sorry for the > spelling...) anyone loopng a bowed 12' steel i-beam? Occassionally, I'll play around with a cheap violin bow on different things. I really like it on a "Wobble Board", a kid's toy that I play like a musical saw. I stick a piezo pickup on it. Bowed marimba and glockespiel sound cool, too. One of the nastiest sounds is a bowed gopi-yantra (or gopi-chadra) with the string very loose and played through a old E-H Big Muff. It makes nails-on-the-chalkboard sound melodious! Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 14:10:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA24442; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:07:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:07:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:05:25 EDT Subject: Re: question on bowing To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: <6uTgK.A.u7F.KK2y6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6111 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com seisscp@washpost.com writes: >question- any loopers out there use a bow on non-bowed instruments? or >even non-instruments? yeah, sometimes i use a bow on a 'normally bridged' el. gtr; (the last time i can remember recording that was a while ago, on mick karn's cd 'the tooth mother', onna track called 'thundergirl mutation'). angle of incidence is very meaningful w/such a technique..... best, splattercell / dt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 14:26:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25119; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:23:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:23:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000201c0bd33$d88ee8c0$03886fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: Subject: Re: Sound cards Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 06:12:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6112 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, We use a core2 for multitracking audio in my studio. The early drivers were rubbish but it's rock steady with, (i think) version 2.1. The sound quality is exceptional and with the dbx circuitry in operation and recording at 24bit depth it is EXTREMELY difficult to clip your recordings. Bad points are: The lexi mp100 daughterboard configuration is mighty convoluted. Unbalanced ins and outs, (though I've not had a problem with interference). The breakout box is rather cheap looking being close to 1/2 u rack but not quite- silly. Generally though, I'm very pleased with it. Gareth > I noticed the posts regarding sound cards- > > I recently bought a Lexicon Core 2 card for my new PC that is on order. > Anybody have one of these that wants to share their ups n' downs with this > card? > > thanks, pat > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 14:28:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25625; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:26:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:26:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 14:25:11 -0400 Subject: OT: While we're talkin' Sound Cards From: Graeme White To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3069239111_1068115_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6113 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3069239111_1068115_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Looks like a steal if you're using Windows & you need that kind of power - plus it looks like it might be supported by the manufacturer (unlike the core card...:< ) Plus you get the IO off the card, tho not completely out of the computer which would be nicer. I'd want to know exactly which "Major Sequencers" support it, & how. > Subject: OT: While we're talkin' Sound Cards > > I came across this offer from Zzounds: > > http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=p.YAMDS2416AX44&a=em032701 > > It sounds like a great deal, but I haven't heard anything about this card. > Is anyone on the list familiar with it and can offer a quick review? > > -skully -- Graeme White --MS_Mac_OE_3069239111_1068115_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable OT: While we're talkin' Sound Cards Looks like a steal if you're using Windows & you= need that kind of power - plus it looks like it might be supported by the m= anufacturer (unlike the core card...:< ) Plus you get the IO off the card= , tho not completely out of the computer which would be nicer.

I'd want to know exactly which "Major Sequencers" support it, &am= p; how.

> Subject: OT: While we're talkin' Sound Cards
>
> I came across this offer from Zzounds:
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> http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.YAMDS24= 16AX44&a=3Dem032701
>
> It sounds like a great deal, but I haven't heard anything about this c= ard.
> Is anyone on the list familiar with it and can offer a quick review? >
> -skully

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Graeme White=20 --MS_Mac_OE_3069239111_1068115_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 14:49:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA26375; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:45:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:45:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00ca01c0bd37$3f403f80$d7ae1597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: "loopers-delight" Subject: gig/GIG Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 20:44:09 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6114 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "IL NOME DELLA COSA " FOLLIE ED IMPROVVISI PER 2 CHITARRE SOLITARIE con ROBERTO ZORZI Chitarre elettrica, acustica , dobro e zorzerie e ITALO DE ANGELIS Chitarra elettrica, live electronics, Eventide Orville **************************************************************************** ** Le due chitarre si incontrano per la prima volta, provenienti ciascuna da mondi musicali diversi ed eterogenei; Zorzi frequenta da molti anni ormai l'area della libera improvvisazione strumentale ed elettronica, con chiari riferimenti alle sue più forti influenze, Henry Kaiser, con il quale ha recentemente inciso, Ornette Coleman ed Albert Ayler, nonché la tradizione più classica del "Delta" Blues americano. De Angelis lo affianca coinvolgendolo nelle sue spirali elettroniche immaginifiche, sviluppate nei suoi recenti cd in Danimarca ed Italia, in cui real time sampling, looping e processamenti estremi creano dense tessiture sonore digitali di altri mondi. Sarà interessante il contrasto generato dall'interazione delle due differenti esperienze artistiche confluenti in una serata di duetti e solo pieces che terranno gli ascoltatori sospesi nell'impossibilità di prevedere gli sviluppi della cosa. Il fascino dell'estemporaneo e della ripetizione contrastano nella performance del duo e non è da poco esperire imprevedibili sviluppi creativi e mutazioni improvvise in un'epoca di "calma piatta".. PESCARA-ITALY "K A B A L A J A Z Z C L U B" SABATO 7 APRILE 2001 h 22.00 Via Ravenna (Centro), 62 Tel 085 4219992 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 14:57:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA26866; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:54:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:54:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002a01c0bd38$d7972900$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "Clifford@BienAppraisers" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: OT:Asus A7M266 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 11:55:36 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01C0BCFE.297C4920" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6115 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C0BCFE.297C4920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.asus.com.tw/products/motherboard/socketa/a7m266/index.html=20 I am considering using this as the core of my next DAW- I have heard = most MOTU problems have been solved- anyone have more info on this = subject or actually have this board? Thanks Cliff-O-Matic ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C0BCFE.297C4920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0027_01C0BCFE.297C4920-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 14:59:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA27095; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:57:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:57:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20010404143847.00a71270@mail.pdfsystems.com> X-Sender: robert@tensionheadache.org@mail.pdfsystems.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 15:01:23 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "anti:clockwise" Subject: pelt? WHICH pelt???? In-Reply-To: <200104041828.OAA25766@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6116 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com pelt are pretty much always amazing, but you can never be sure which version of pelt you're gonna see... they have many moods & stylings, and their capabilities are vast & pretty astonishing... tono-bungay have had the supreme pleasure of splitting many a bill w/ pelt - the first time we ever saw them was at (the late, VERY lamented) astrocade a few years back. they did a soundcheck that indicated a sort of jungle-drums-foundation-with-manic-swirling-over-the-top-electronics. "ok", we're thinking, "this seems pretty out there." they finished the check and repaired to the rear of the space where they then proceeded to immediately throw down the most incredible, totally off the cuff, stone-trad bluegrass jam session. completely authentic, and very casual... just for relaxation, i guess. don't think i've ever seen such an abrupt change of stylistic clothing, musically speaking, literally in the twinkling of an eye. on another occasion we were back in philly, this time at the khyber pass, when pelt churned out a set that was firmly classifiable as industrial, and REALLY scary... making waxtrax seem like "K" - (i had to take cover backstage!) i began to get the feeling that these guys really can do anything they want... an impression which was further reinforced when we split the bill w/ them at transmissions oo2 in c'hill- where they did nothing for, oh, an hour and 25 minutes but a continual bowed-cymbal-and-temple-bowl set; it was really almost a cruel demonstration of how something that's ostensibly "relaxing" in a sort of typically new-agey way can instill in you thoughts of murder (like, murdering the band FIRST, and then going out afterwards for more.) oh, did i mention? they're REALLY nice people and we are pleased to have one of them as a transplanted new yorker. but then - how could you expect any less from a group who tours in a van with a licence plate that reads: "klaang"? lovin them, a:c >i too saw pelt in d.c. -- any droners out there would love pelts use >textures to create vivid and often atonal sound-scapes. very "visual" >music. >im not sure who, but one of the members used a bow on a tambura...it >sounded fantastic. > >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >cc: > >Subject: pelt > > >any one out there like pelt. i saw them live awhile back and i thought they >rocked in a drone way. keenan lawler and pelt just made arecord together it >rocks in a drone way to. it was recorded in a silo. -thaniel ion lee From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 15:08:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28675; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:05:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:05:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <024501c0bd3a$36873f80$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <00ca01c0bd37$3f403f80$d7ae1597@default> Subject: Re: gig/GIG Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:05:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <0lyp9B.A.Q9G.lB3y6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6117 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Have a good gig, Italo! Pardon the automated translation but I get the jist of it. Sounds like fun! ------------------ begin translation ------------------------- " the NAME Of the THING " UNEXPECTED MADNESSES AND FOR 2 SOLITARY GUITARS with ROBERTO ZORZI Guitars electrical worker, acoustics, dobro and zorzerie and Italian DE ANGELIS Guitar electrical worker, live electronics, Eventide Orville **************************************************************************** ** The two guitars are met for before the time, coming from ciascuna from various and heterogenous musical worlds; Zorzi by now attends from many years the area of the free instrumental improvisation and electronic, with clear references to its stronger infuences, Henry Kaiser, with which it has recently recorded, Ornette Coleman and Albert Ayler, let alone the more classic tradition of the " Delta " Blues American. De Angelis places side by side it being involved it in its immaginifiche electronic spirals, developed in its recent ones cd in Denmark and Italy, in which real extreme Time sampling, looping and processamenti they create dense sonorous webbings digita them of other worlds. The contrast generated from the interaction of the two different artistic experiences meeting in a evening of duetti and only will be interesting pieces that they will hold the listeners suspended in the impossibility to preview the developments of the thing. ------------------ end translation ------------------------- Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 15:09:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA28803; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:06:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:06:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4AB5@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: gig/GIG Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:05:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id PAA28645 Resent-Message-ID: <5fQg_B.A.4_G.KC3y6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6118 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com translation:" Hey everyone I 'm gonna get liquored up before I show up at Denis Taaffe's gig tonight and later we will all go over and get a keg party going with the homeys back at the crib, get some tatoos and then we get some babes that I attract cuz I am a babe magnet and we ...." oh wait maybe he means that he will be playing a gig in italy.. Denis Denis Taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com -----Original Message----- From: Italo De Angelis [mailto:italoop@libero.it] S "IL NOME DELLA COSA " FOLLIE ED IMPROVVISI PER 2 CHITARRE SOLITARIE con ROBERTO ZORZI Chitarre elettrica, acustica , dobro e zorzerie e ITALO DE ANGELIS Chitarra elettrica, live electronics, Eventide Orville **************************************************************************** ** Le due chitarre si incontrano per la prima volta, provenienti ciascuna da mondi musicali diversi ed eterogenei; Zorzi frequenta da molti anni ormai l'area della libera improvvisazione strumentale ed elettronica, con chiari riferimenti alle sue più forti influenze, Henry Kaiser, con il quale ha recentemente inciso, Ornette Coleman ed Albert Ayler, nonché la tradizione più classica del "Delta" Blues americano. De Angelis lo affianca coinvolgendolo nelle sue spirali elettroniche immaginifiche, sviluppate nei suoi recenti cd in Danimarca ed Italia, in cui real time sampling, looping e processamenti estremi creano dense tessiture sonore digitali di altri mondi. Sarà interessante il contrasto generato dall'interazione delle due differenti esperienze artistiche confluenti in una serata di duetti e solo pieces che terranno gli ascoltatori sospesi nell'impossibilità di prevedere gli sviluppi della cosa. Il fascino dell'estemporaneo e della ripetizione contrastano nella performance del duo e non è da poco esperire imprevedibili sviluppi creativi e mutazioni improvvise in un'epoca di "calma piatta".. PESCARA-ITALY "K A B A L A J A Z Z C L U B" SABATO 7 APRILE 2001 h 22.00 Via Ravenna (Centro), 62 Tel 085 4219992 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 15:21:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29484; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:18:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:18:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.174.121.53] From: "Patrick Bailey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Jamman click noise Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 12:17:20 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Apr 2001 19:17:20.0154 (UTC) FILETIME=[DE971FA0:01C0BD3B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6119 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Greetings all, Lately I've been noticing an annoying distorted pop that occurs at the beginning of each loop repetition in my Jamman. Any other Jam men or women have this same prob? Thanks _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 15:24:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA29674; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:20:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:20:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [204.253.195.194] From: "matt davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: mp3 encoder? Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 12:19:27 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Apr 2001 19:19:27.0750 (UTC) FILETIME=[2AA4BA60:01C0BD3C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6120 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks everyone for the mp3 references. I'm mp3 capable again! I'll have to check out this download.com though, it seems pretty cool! >From: "Mike Feeney" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >Subject: RE: mp3 encoder? >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 06:44:25 -0500 > > > > I use one called dbPowerAmp which I downloaded from www.download.com ... >that's a good page to start with, they have loads of free shareware / >freeware up for grabs (including a category for mp3 encoders). That >software is a little buggy for me sometimes, but overall works pretty well. >It allows you to convert to both mp3 and wav from a source CD, file, or >even >from incoming audio from your soundcard. > > What's funny is that I did the same thing... I used to use AudioCatalyst >until I reformatted... =) I miss it. MusicMatch seems to work fairly >well >once you learn the not-particularly-intuitive-or-logical interface. =) > > -Mike > >-----Original Message----- >From: matt davignon [mailto:mattdavignon@hotmail.com] >Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:53 PM >To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: mp3 encoder? > > >Could anybody suggest a free mp3 encoder for me? I used to use >Audiocatalyst, but I reformatted, and now all I have access to is the >"trial >version". > >I tried MusicMatch Jukebox (or something like that), but either it doesn't >list the CD tracks (so I can't pick which ones to encode), or it tries to >burn the mp3 tracks to a new CD-R. > >Ideally, I'd like one that could do CD (or .wav) to mp3 and also mp3 to >.wav. > >Anybody? anybody? > >Matt >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 15:40:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA30393; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:32:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:32:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008b01c0bd3d$1d23bcf0$6b44230a@mlameyer02> X-Sybari-Space: 00000000 00000000 00000000 From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: References: Subject: OT: mp3 encoder? Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:26:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Another site, more extensive I think, is shareware music machine: http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/ Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "matt davignon" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:19 PM Subject: RE: mp3 encoder? > Thanks everyone for the mp3 references. I'm mp3 capable again! I'll have to > check out this download.com though, it seems pretty cool! > > > >From: "Mike Feeney" > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >To: > >Subject: RE: mp3 encoder? > >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 06:44:25 -0500 > > > > > > > > I use one called dbPowerAmp which I downloaded from www.download.com ... > >that's a good page to start with, they have loads of free shareware / > >freeware up for grabs (including a category for mp3 encoders). That > >software is a little buggy for me sometimes, but overall works pretty well. > >It allows you to convert to both mp3 and wav from a source CD, file, or > >even > >from incoming audio from your soundcard. > > > > What's funny is that I did the same thing... I used to use AudioCatalyst > >until I reformatted... =) I miss it. MusicMatch seems to work fairly > >well > >once you learn the not-particularly-intuitive-or-logical interface. =) > > > > -Mike > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: matt davignon [mailto:mattdavignon@hotmail.com] > >Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 12:53 PM > >To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > >Subject: mp3 encoder? > > > > > >Could anybody suggest a free mp3 encoder for me? I used to use > >Audiocatalyst, but I reformatted, and now all I have access to is the > >"trial > >version". > > > >I tried MusicMatch Jukebox (or something like that), but either it doesn't > >list the CD tracks (so I can't pick which ones to encode), or it tries to > >burn the mp3 tracks to a new CD-R. > > > >Ideally, I'd like one that could do CD (or .wav) to mp3 and also mp3 to > >.wav. > > > >Anybody? anybody? > > > >Matt > >_______________________________________________________________ __ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > >_________________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > ________________________________________________________________ _ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 15:48:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA30978; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:45:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:45:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACB7968.78EAB98A@cabq.gov> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 13:43:36 -0600 From: Jason Fink X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Seattle Looping Activities? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Greetings, I am heading to Seattle for a week this Saturday. Are there any locals that can point me to looping gigs/activities going on? Or Anything cool to do up there, for that matter.... thanks, -jas http://www.dimbulb.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 16:18:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA00339; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:14:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:14:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00e601c0bd43$a6aeb5a0$d7ae1597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: References: <00ca01c0bd37$3f403f80$d7ae1597@default> <024501c0bd3a$36873f80$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> Subject: Re: gig/GIG Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:12:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanx Dennis!!! I'm surprised!!! Great to see YOU know Italian SO GOOD...Thanx again...what a nice thing to see on the net. See ya on www.geocities.com/italoop ALLA TUA SALUTE DENNIS ! ! ! CIAO ITALO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Leas" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 9:05 PM Subject: Re: gig/GIG > Have a good gig, Italo! > > Pardon the automated translation but I get the jist of it. Sounds like fun! > > ------------------ begin translation ------------------------- > " the NAME Of the THING " UNEXPECTED MADNESSES AND FOR 2 SOLITARY > GUITARS with ROBERTO ZORZI Guitars electrical worker, acoustics, dobro > and zorzerie and Italian DE ANGELIS Guitar electrical worker, live > electronics, Eventide Orville > > > **************************************************************************** > ** The two guitars are met for before the time, coming from ciascuna > from various and heterogenous musical worlds; Zorzi by now attends > from many years the area of the free instrumental improvisation and > electronic, with clear references to its stronger infuences, Henry > Kaiser, with which it has recently recorded, Ornette Coleman and > Albert Ayler, let alone the more classic tradition of the " Delta " > Blues American. De Angelis places side by side it being involved it > in its immaginifiche electronic spirals, developed in its recent ones > cd in Denmark and Italy, in which real extreme Time sampling, looping > and processamenti they create dense sonorous webbings digita them of > other worlds. > > The contrast generated from the interaction of the two different > artistic experiences meeting in a evening of duetti and only will be > interesting pieces that they will hold the listeners suspended in the > impossibility to preview the developments of the thing. > ------------------ end translation ------------------------- > > Dennis Leas > ------------------- > dennis@mdbs.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 16:19:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA32743; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:11:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:11:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <017401c0bd42$accbc320$a96ea8c0@in.bootlegtv.com> From: "Kevin Goldsmith" To: References: <3ACB7968.78EAB98A@cabq.gov> Subject: Re: Seattle Looping Activities? Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:06:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: <7cIg0B.A.U_H.j_3y6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Check out the Tentacle for all music of a looping nature in Seattle... www.tentacle.org If your mind drifts to drone-rock, check out Voyager One and Bethany Curve on Saturday night... Kevin Unit Circle Media www.unitcircle.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Jason Fink To: Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 12:43 PM Subject: Seattle Looping Activities? > Greetings, > > I am heading to Seattle for a week this Saturday. Are there any > locals that can point me to looping gigs/activities going on? > > Or Anything cool to do up there, for that matter.... > > thanks, > -jas > http://www.dimbulb.org > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 16:22:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA00735; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:19:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:19:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Kevin Mulvihill" To: Subject: RE: While we're talkin' Sound Cards Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:23:09 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C0BD0A.64013FE0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C0BD0A.64013FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OT: While we're talkin' Sound CardsI just bought 2 of the DS2416s from zZounds... although one is a gift for my brother. For those of you not familiar with this card... When installed inside a personal computer, the DS2416 digital mixing card offers the mixing power of the successful Yamaha 02R digital mixer plus 16 tracks of hard disk recording with up to 32-bit resolution. The DSP Factory appears to be a comprehensive digital mixing and recording system, providing full-time 24-channel digital mixing and two of Yamaha's top-quality digital effects processors, without having to rely on the computer's internal processing power. Additionally, the DS2416 card includes an audio-streaming engine which provides 8 tracks of simultaneous recording to, and 16 tracks playback from, the computer's disk drive. I'm hoping this feature will give me greater success than I had with computer-based composition previously. The card isn't flawless - it only supports a 33 MHz bus speed and there's no lightpipe, for example, but it's attractive in many ways... those of you who may be in the market for a card might consider it... And besides, there's a deal to be had right now. Like you, I had an email flyer this week from zZounds and they're blowing out the DS2416 with a separate digital I/O interface card (that's two cards), with a MSRP of $1295... for only $299! It was something of an impulse buy for me - I didn't think they would last long at that price, although they are still in stock over there. Sweetwater and Musician's Friend are each still selling the card for $600. So, I bought two. You can read about the zZounds deal here (there are two): http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=p.YAMDS2416AX16AT&z=1022981872889 http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=p.YAMDS2416AX44&a=em032701 Best bet for info though is the Yamaha site, where you'll have to do a search for the DS2416. The brochure and Owner's Manual are worth perusing. On the Yamaha site, you'll see references to the sequencers supported... they've got some big names in there. For reviews, check out: http://www.computermusic.co.uk/reviews/h2hsoundcards2/ds2416.asp http://www.yamaha.com/proaudio/SHOWCASE/REVIEWS/review23.htm Best of luck to you, Kevin Subject: OT: While we're talkin' Sound Cards Looks like a steal if you're using Windows & you need that kind of power - plus it looks like it might be supported by the manufacturer (unlike the core card...:< ) Plus you get the IO off the card, tho not completely out of the computer which would be nicer. I'd want to know exactly which "Major Sequencers" support it, & how. > Subject: OT: While we're talkin' Sound Cards > > I came across this offer from Zzounds: > > http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=p.YAMDS2416AX44&a=em032701 > > It sounds like a great deal, but I haven't heard anything about this card. > Is anyone on the list familiar with it and can offer a quick review? > > -skully -- Graeme White ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C0BD0A.64013FE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OT: While we're talkin' Sound Cards

I just bought 2 of = the DS2416s=20 from zZounds... although one is a gift for my brother.

For those of = you not=20 familiar with this card... When installed inside a personal computer, = the DS2416=20 digital mixing card offers the mixing power of the successful Yamaha 02R = digital=20 mixer plus 16 tracks of hard disk recording with up to 32-bit = resolution. The=20 DSP Factory appears to = be a comprehensive digital mixing and = recording=20 system, providing full-time 24-channel digital mixing and two of = Yamaha's=20 top-quality digital effects processors, without having to rely on the = computer's=20 internal processing power.

Additionally, the DS2416 card includes an = audio-streaming engine=20 which provides 8 tracks of simultaneous recording to, and 16 tracks = playback=20 from, the computer's disk drive. I'm hoping this feature will give me = greater=20 success than I had with computer-based composition = previously.

The card isn't flawless - it only supports a 33 MHz = bus speed=20 and there's no lightpipe, for example, but it's attractive in many = ways... those=20 of you who may be in the market for a card might consider it...

And besides, there's a deal to be had right now. Like you, I had an email = flyer this=20 week from zZounds and they're blowing out the DS2416 with a separate = digital I/O=20 interface card (that's two cards), with a MSRP of $1295... for only = $299! It was=20 something of an impulse buy for me - I didn't think they would last long = at that=20 price, although they are still in stock over there. Sweetwater and = Musician's=20 Friend are each still selling the card for $600. So, I bought = two.

You can read about the zZounds deal here (there are=20 two):

http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.YAMDS2416AX16AT&= ;z=3D1022981872889

http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.YAMDS2416AX44&a=3Dem03= 2701

Best bet for info though is the Yamaha site, where = you'll have=20 to do a search for the DS2416. The brochure and Owner's Manual are worth = perusing. On the Yamaha site, you'll = see=20 references to the sequencers supported... they've got some big names in=20 there.

For reviews, check out:

http://www.computermusic.co.uk/reviews/h2hsoundcards2/ds2416.asp

htt= p://www.yamaha.com/proaudio/SHOWCASE/REVIEWS/review23.htm

Best of=20 luck to you,

Kevin

Subject: OT: While we're talkin' Sound=20 Cards

Looks like a steal if = you're=20 using Windows & you need that kind of power - plus it looks like = it might=20 be supported by the manufacturer (unlike the core card...:< ) Plus = you get=20 the IO off the card, tho not completely out of the computer which = would be=20 nicer.

I'd want to know exactly which "Major Sequencers" = support it,=20 & how.

> Subject: OT: While we're talkin' = Sound=20 Cards
>
> I came across this offer from = Zzounds:
>=20
> http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.YAMDS2416AX44&= amp;a=3Dem032701
>=20
> It sounds like a great deal, but I haven't heard anything = about this=20 card.
> Is anyone on the list familiar with it and can offer a = quick=20 review?
>
> -skully

--
Graeme White = ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C0BD0A.64013FE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 16:32:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01112; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:25:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:25:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: estan@dnathree.com Subject: Looping with a mixer Cc: X-Remote_Addr: 62.7.45.156 Message-Id: From: Estan Milkovitch Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 21:24:32 +0100 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, I've been reading the messages for a while and I've noticed that generally everyone uses their looping device with a guitar, I want to use one with 2 turntables and a mixer but I have a couple of questions. As far as I can work out, I'd need some kind of effects send on my mixer to be able to use ANY type of guitar pedal, can anyone confirm this and if so, is there any way to get around this? Thanks. Estan Milko From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 16:40:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA01553; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:33:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:33:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Todd Quincy To: "Loopers (E-mail)" Subject: I got 2 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:31:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD46.3A9900C0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD46.3A9900C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Howdy, I just got a second EDP (yeah). I expect this will open a New World of possibilities. I was hoping to hear some signal path tips and creative tricks from those of you who employee 2 EDPs. Todd Quincy Openjam.com PS: If I don't enjoy the second EDP I'm going to give it to either Steve Howe or Pete Townshend. Who do you think would make the best use of it? ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD46.3A9900C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got 2

Howdy, I just got a second EDP (yeah). =

I expect this will open a New World of = possibilities. I was hoping to hear some signal path tips and creative = tricks from those of you who employee 2 EDPs.

Todd Quincy
Openjam.com

PS: If I don't enjoy the second EDP = I'm going to give it to either Steve Howe or Pete Townshend. Who do you = think would make the best use of it?

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD46.3A9900C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 16:52:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA02246; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:50:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:50:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010404204956.5115.qmail@web9614.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:49:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Dumeril Seven Subject: Re: Expression pedal with PMC10 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <008701c0bd2a$956e8c20$cf2cf7c2@zetnet.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I believe the resistance needs to be within the 0 - 10K ohm range. I was lucky with the Kawai pedal in that it was in that range, it was just wired to a stereo plug. You can easily find out by hooking up an ohm meter and getting a reading when the pedal is at the heel-down (you want 0 ohms) and toe-down positions (10K ohm). Now, it seems plausible to me that a pedal that didn't go all the way to 10K might work -- and I highly doubt it would damage anything. You'd have to try it out to make sure.... D7 --- Steve Lawson wrote: > > Last night I adapted a Kawai expression pedal to > > work with my DL-4. The Line 6 pedals want a mono > > plug hooked up to a 10K pot. The Kawai (and some > > other expression pedals) use a stereo plug and wire > > the plug up so that the usual variable resistance > > from the pot goes across the sleeve and ring of > > the plug (the Line 6 needs it on the sleeve and > > tip). I wired in a little switch to go from > > the normal wiring, to one that is compatible with > > the Line 6. Seems to me that a technically inclined > > person could "repurpose" a Crybaby for use as an > > expression pedal, assuming you can find a 10K wah pot.... > > OK, so will this work with any stereo expression pedal? What would happen if > the impedance was wrong? If I buy a Roland or > Technics stereo pedal, chop off the stereo plug and attach a mono one in the > way described above, with that work? I'm not > massively into the idea of spending $$ on a Line 6 pedal, and the Boss EV > thingie is even more! > > Steve > web-site - www.steve-lawson.co.uk > e-mail - steve@steve-lawson.co.uk > mailing list - steve-lawson-subscribe@listbot.com (send a blank e-mail to > this address) > > "Nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight, > You've got to kick at the darkness till it bleeds daylight" > - Bruce Cockburn > ===== Dumeril7 dumeril7@SPAMBEGONEyahoo.com Anti-spam measures in place -- remove "SPAMBEGONE" from my e-mail address if you want to use it.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 16:55:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA02135; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:48:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:48:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4AB7@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" , "Loopers (E-mail)" Subject: RE: I got 2 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:47:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD48.66A97350" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD48.66A97350 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" WEll pete townshend would just end up smashing it up and steve howe would be too soft with it, maybe you should give it to me instead...... Denis Denis Taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com PS: If I don't enjoy the second EDP I'm going to give it to either Steve Howe or Pete Townshend. Who do you think would make the best use of it? ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD48.66A97350 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" I got 2
WEll pete townshend would just end up smashing it up  and steve howe would be too soft with it, maybe you should give it to me instead......
 
Denis
 
Denis Taaffe

PS: If I don't enjoy the second EDP I'm going to give it to either Steve Howe or Pete Townshend. Who do you think would make the best use of it?

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BD48.66A97350-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 16:56:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA02333; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:52:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:52:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4AB8@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: gig/GIG Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:51:51 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hehehehe..good luck on your gig as well!!! Amazing looping around the world.... Denis 8-) -----Original Message----- From: Italo De Angelis [mailto:italoop@libero.it] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:13 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: gig/GIG Thanx Dennis!!! I'm surprised!!! Great to see YOU know Italian SO GOOD...Thanx again...what a nice thing to see on the net. See ya on www.geocities.com/italoop ALLA TUA SALUTE DENNIS ! ! ! CIAO ITALO ----- Original Message ----- F From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 17:20:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA04107; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:15:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:15:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004801c0bd4a$abbd18a0$fa231a3f@oemcomputer> From: "Petr" To: References: Subject: Re: question on bowing Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:02:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > seisscp@washpost.com writes: > >question- any loopers out there use a bow on non-bowed instruments? or > >even non-instruments? Check out Eric's Springboard (walker): http://pages.ripco.net/~eleon/instruments/index.html Or my Commodeon (commode): http://www.geocities.com/pepetr/About-Project.html They both can be bowed. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 17:30:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA04503; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:27:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:27:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <02d001c0bd4d$db9e25c0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: Subject: Re: I got 2 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:26:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02CD_01C0BD23.F27BD280" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <3DYpkD.A.tFB.lF5y6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02CD_01C0BD23.F27BD280 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got 2Todd, so sad to hear of your decline.... Once, I had only one EDP. Nay, before that, I looped with a TEAC! = Then, I heard about the *E D P*. The looping device with god-like = powers marketed by the Catholic Church, no wait, I mean Gibson. Soon, I = had sacrificed and saved and *bought* one. Only, one! One is *enough*, = I said to myself. My friends were happy for me. Mostly, they pretended = to understand why I enjoyed looping. Then...I wanted more....I began to feel that my life was incomplete = without a second EDP. Why, the things I could do with two! And one = day, a second EDP arrived. Hummm....I thought maybe I recalled ordering = it...but it was kind of fuzzy...certainly the charge appeared on my = credit card. My friends stopped talking to me. My social life decayed. That was several years ago. Now, I have a Kyma system AND two EDPs AND = ---... I have no friends.... Todd, it's NOT too late for you! Send that second EDP back! Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com P.S. Congratulations! ------=_NextPart_000_02CD_01C0BD23.F27BD280 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got 2
Todd, so sad to hear of your=20 decline....
 
Once, I had only one EDP.  Nay, = before that, I=20 looped with a TEAC!  Then, I heard about the *E D P*.  The = looping=20 device with god-like powers marketed by the Catholic Church, no wait, I = mean=20 Gibson.  Soon, I had sacrificed and saved and *bought* one.  = Only,=20 one!  One is *enough*, I said to myself.  My friends were = happy for=20 me.  Mostly, they pretended to understand why I enjoyed=20 looping.
 
Then...I wanted more....I began to feel = that my=20 life was incomplete without a second EDP.  Why, the things I could = do with=20 two!  And one day, a second EDP arrived.  Hummm....I thought = maybe I=20 recalled ordering it...but it was kind of fuzzy...certainly the charge = appeared=20 on my credit card.  My friends stopped talking to me.  My = social life=20 decayed.
 
That was several years ago.  Now, = I have a=20 Kyma system AND two EDPs AND ---...  I have no = friends....
 
Todd, it's NOT too late for you!  = Send that=20 second EDP back!
 
Dennis Leas
-------------------
dennis@mdbs.com
 
P.S. = Congratulations!
------=_NextPart_000_02CD_01C0BD23.F27BD280-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 17:34:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA04842; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:32:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:32:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010404213122.6836.qmail@web5102.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:31:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Alx Subject: Re: mp3 encoder? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello, according to many people (as I have read) the best free encoder is "Lame" wich you can download here: http://www.mp3-tech.org/ click on "encoders", then select your OS and then you´ll have several options to download, the "lame" encoder features joint stereo encoding and variable bitrate, I´m using it and the results are great, also it cames with a frontend called "Razor lame" to make things easier. Alx. --- matt davignon wrote: > Could anybody suggest a free mp3 encoder for me? I > used to use > Audiocatalyst, but I reformatted, and now all I have > access to is the "trial > version". > > I tried MusicMatch Jukebox (or something like that), > but either it doesn't > list the CD tracks (so I can't pick which ones to > encode), or it tries to > burn the mp3 tracks to a new CD-R. > > Ideally, I'd like one that could do CD (or .wav) to > mp3 and also mp3 to > .wav. > > Anybody? anybody? > > Matt > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 17:47:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA05259; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:45:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:45:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20010404164452.0088ea90@mail.airmail.net> X-Sender: mcl451@mail.airmail.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 16:44:52 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Michael Clark Subject: Re: pelt? WHICH pelt???? In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20010404143847.00a71270@mail.pdfsystems.com> References: <200104041828.OAA25766@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <4haKb.A.jRB.rX5y6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, I did a search for pelt. Didn't find anything. Any mp3 stuff out there? Thanks, Michael At 03:01 PM 4/4/01 -0400, you wrote: > > >pelt are pretty much always amazing, but you can never be sure which >version of pelt you're gonna see... they have many moods & stylings, and >their capabilities are vast & pretty astonishing... > >tono-bungay have had the supreme pleasure of splitting many a bill w/ pelt >- the first time we ever saw them was at (the late, VERY lamented) >astrocade a few years back. they did a soundcheck that indicated a sort of >jungle-drums-foundation-with-manic-swirling-over-the-top-electronics. "ok", >we're thinking, "this seems pretty out there." > >they finished the check and repaired to the rear of the space where they >then proceeded to immediately throw down the most incredible, totally off >the cuff, stone-trad bluegrass jam session. completely authentic, and very >casual... just for relaxation, i guess. don't think i've ever seen such an >abrupt change of stylistic clothing, musically speaking, literally in the >twinkling of an eye. > >on another occasion we were back in philly, this time at the khyber pass, >when pelt churned out a set that was firmly classifiable as industrial, and >REALLY scary... making waxtrax seem like "K" - (i had to take cover >backstage!) i began to get the feeling that these guys really can do >anything they want... > >an impression which was further reinforced when we split the bill w/ them >at transmissions oo2 in c'hill- where they did nothing for, oh, an hour and >25 minutes but a continual bowed-cymbal-and-temple-bowl set; it was really >almost a cruel demonstration of how something that's ostensibly "relaxing" >in a sort of typically new-agey way can instill in you thoughts of murder >(like, murdering the band FIRST, and then going out afterwards for more.) > >oh, did i mention? they're REALLY nice people and we are pleased to have >one of them as a transplanted new yorker. > >but then - how could you expect any less from a group who tours in a van >with a licence plate that reads: "klaang"? > >lovin them, > >a:c > >>i too saw pelt in d.c. -- any droners out there would love pelts use >>textures to create vivid and often atonal sound-scapes. very "visual" >>music. >>im not sure who, but one of the members used a bow on a tambura...it >>sounded fantastic. >> >>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>cc: >> >>Subject: pelt >> >> >>any one out there like pelt. i saw them live awhile back and i thought they >>rocked in a drone way. keenan lawler and pelt just made arecord together it >>rocks in a drone way to. it was recorded in a silo. -thaniel ion lee > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 17:48:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA05260; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:45:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:45:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [209.167.3.10] From: "Ogsite" To: References: Subject: Re: While we're talkin' Sound Cards Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:44:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0035_01C0BD2E.D8753880" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Apr 2001 21:44:21.0028 (UTC) FILETIME=[683DAE40:01C0BD50] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C0BD2E.D8753880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OT: While we're talkin' Sound CardsI have a PIII 800, 512mb Ram. I'm on = the brink of buying a Dedicated audio card. I'm mainly loop based with = little need for multiple inputs. I do want to life some of the = multitracking load off my computer. I'm using ACID, Cubase, Reason and = Vegas... I need low latency when using the keyboard and solid = multitracking performance. I've looking at the Luna II, that Yamaha = Deal everyone got the email about and Midiman's M-audio (I think). Any = suggestions would be greatly appreciated.. something decent for under = 500 CDN would be fantastic... thanks for the help in advance. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kevin Mulvihill=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 1:23 PM Subject: RE: While we're talkin' Sound Cards I just bought 2 of the DS2416s from zZounds... although one is a gift = for my brother. For those of you not familiar with this card... When installed inside = a personal computer, the DS2416 digital mixing card offers the mixing = power of the successful Yamaha 02R digital mixer plus 16 tracks of hard = disk recording with up to 32-bit resolution. The DSP Factory appears to = be a comprehensive digital mixing and recording system, providing = full-time 24-channel digital mixing and two of Yamaha's top-quality = digital effects processors, without having to rely on the computer's = internal processing power.=20 Additionally, the DS2416 card includes an audio-streaming engine which = provides 8 tracks of simultaneous recording to, and 16 tracks playback = from, the computer's disk drive. I'm hoping this feature will give me = greater success than I had with computer-based composition previously. The card isn't flawless - it only supports a 33 MHz bus speed and = there's no lightpipe, for example, but it's attractive in many ways... = those of you who may be in the market for a card might consider it... And besides, there's a deal to be had right now. Like you, I had an = email flyer this week from zZounds and they're blowing out the DS2416 = with a separate digital I/O interface card (that's two cards), with a = MSRP of $1295... for only $299! It was something of an impulse buy for = me - I didn't think they would last long at that price, although they = are still in stock over there. Sweetwater and Musician's Friend are each = still selling the card for $600. So, I bought two. You can read about the zZounds deal here (there are two): = http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.YAMDS2416AX16AT&z=3D1022981872889= http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.YAMDS2416AX44&a=3Dem032701 Best bet for info though is the Yamaha site, where you'll have to do a = search for the DS2416. The brochure and Owner's Manual are worth = perusing. On the Yamaha site, you'll see references to the sequencers = supported... they've got some big names in there. For reviews, check out: http://www.computermusic.co.uk/reviews/h2hsoundcards2/ds2416.asp http://www.yamaha.com/proaudio/SHOWCASE/REVIEWS/review23.htm Best of luck to you, Kevin Subject: OT: While we're talkin' Sound Cards Looks like a steal if you're using Windows & you need that kind of = power - plus it looks like it might be supported by the manufacturer = (unlike the core card...:< ) Plus you get the IO off the card, tho not = completely out of the computer which would be nicer. I'd want to know exactly which "Major Sequencers" support it, & how. > Subject: OT: While we're talkin' Sound Cards >=20 > I came across this offer from Zzounds: >=20 > http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.YAMDS2416AX44&a=3Dem032701 >=20 > It sounds like a great deal, but I haven't heard anything about = this card.=20 > Is anyone on the list familiar with it and can offer a quick = review? >=20 > -skully --=20 Graeme White=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C0BD2E.D8753880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OT: While we're talkin' Sound Cards
I have a PIII 800, 512mb Ram.  I'm = on the=20 brink of buying a Dedicated audio card.  I'm mainly loop based with = little=20 need for multiple inputs.  I do want to life some of the = multitracking load=20 off my computer.  I'm using ACID, Cubase, Reason and Vegas... I = need low=20 latency when using the keyboard and solid multitracking = performance.  I've=20 looking at the Luna II, that Yamaha Deal everyone got the email about = and=20 Midiman's M-audio (I think).  Any suggestions would be greatly=20 appreciated.. something decent for under 500 CDN would be fantastic... = thanks=20 for the help in advance.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Kevin=20 Mulvihill
To: Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 = 1:23=20 PM
Subject: RE: While we're = talkin' Sound=20 Cards

I just bought 2 of = the DS2416s=20 from zZounds... although one is a gift for my = brother.

For those of = you not=20 familiar with this card... When installed inside a personal computer, = the=20 DS2416 digital mixing card offers the mixing power of the successful = Yamaha=20 02R digital mixer plus 16 tracks of hard disk recording with up to = 32-bit=20 resolution. The DSP Factory appears to=20 be a comprehensive = digital=20 mixing and recording system, providing full-time 24-channel digital = mixing and=20 two of Yamaha's top-quality digital effects processors, without having = to rely=20 on the computer's internal processing power.

Additionally, the DS2416 card includes an = audio-streaming=20 engine which provides 8 tracks of simultaneous recording to, and 16 = tracks=20 playback from, the computer's disk drive. I'm hoping this feature will = give me=20 greater success than I had with computer-based composition=20 previously.

The card isn't flawless - it only supports a 33 MHz = bus speed=20 and there's no lightpipe, for example, but it's attractive in many = ways...=20 those of you who may be in the market for a card might consider = it...

And besides, there's a deal to be had right = now. Like you, I had an email = flyer this=20 week from zZounds and they're blowing out the DS2416 with a separate = digital=20 I/O interface card (that's two cards), with a MSRP of $1295... for = only $299!=20 It was something of an impulse buy for me - I didn't think they would = last=20 long at that price, although they are still in stock over there. = Sweetwater=20 and Musician's Friend are each still selling the card for $600. So, I = bought=20 two.

You can read about the zZounds deal here (there are=20 two):

http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.YAMDS2416AX16AT&= ;z=3D1022981872889

http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.YAMDS2416AX44&a=3Dem03= 2701

Best bet for info though is the Yamaha site, where = you'll have=20 to do a search for the DS2416. The brochure and Owner's Manual are = worth=20 perusing. On the Yamaha site, you'll = see=20 references to the sequencers supported... they've got some big names = in=20 there.

For reviews, check out:

http://www.computermusic.co.uk/reviews/h2hsoundcards2/ds2416.asp

htt= p://www.yamaha.com/proaudio/SHOWCASE/REVIEWS/review23.htm

Best=20 of luck to you,

Kevin

Subject: OT: While we're talkin' Sound=20 Cards

Looks like a steal = if you're=20 using Windows & you need that kind of power - plus it looks like = it=20 might be supported by the manufacturer (unlike the core card...:< = ) Plus=20 you get the IO off the card, tho not completely out of the computer = which=20 would be nicer.

I'd want to know exactly which "Major = Sequencers"=20 support it, & how.

> Subject: OT: While = we're=20 talkin' Sound Cards
>
> I came across this offer = from=20 Zzounds:
>
> http://www.zzounds.com/love.music?p=3Dp.YAMDS2416AX44&= amp;a=3Dem032701
>=20
> It sounds like a great deal, but I haven't heard anything = about=20 this card.
> Is anyone on the list familiar with it and can = offer a=20 quick review?
>
> -skully

--
Graeme White=20
------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C0BD2E.D8753880-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 17:49:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA05278; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:46:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:46:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <007601c0bd51$815f9720$99b3143f@pavilion> Reply-To: "Michael Roth" From: "Michael Roth" To: References: <3ACB7968.78EAB98A@cabq.gov> Subject: Re: Seattle Looping Activities? Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:52:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0073_01C0BD16.CE4A9B60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0073_01C0BD16.CE4A9B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I host an open mic in Anacortes (70miles north) at the Brown Lantern on = Thursdays at 9pm. More info and sign up at = http://www.brownlantern.com/music/rothmeyer/form.cfm or just stop in. We = get some artists from the label "know Yer Own" The are the highlight of = this gig. I am the only loopy musician so I really want some more = wierdos please! That goes for all you out there. 'cm on, it's fun! =20 It is a bit far north but worth the side trip if you plan to go up to BC = or out to the San Juan Islands. The Tulips might be in bloom by this = weekend. Skagit Valley is the Tulip capitol of the world. Lets see how = else can I justify you trip out into "the sticks"? Let's see...... There = is alot of Beer! and I'll buy a pitcher for anyone from Loopers delight! = How's that for a bribe? =20 ------------------------------------------------- Michael Rothmeyer www.mp3.com/switchback NON- ROCK- ON ++++++++++++++ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jason Fink=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 12:43 PM Subject: Seattle Looping Activities? Greetings, I am heading to Seattle for a week this Saturday. Are there any locals that can point me to looping gigs/activities going on? Or Anything cool to do up there, for that matter.... thanks, -jas http://www.dimbulb.org ------=_NextPart_000_0073_01C0BD16.CE4A9B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I host an open mic in Anacortes (70miles north) at = the Brown=20 Lantern on Thursdays at 9pm. More info and sign up at  http://www.= brownlantern.com/music/rothmeyer/form.cfm or=20 just stop in. We get some artists from the label "know Yer Own" The are = the=20 highlight of this gig. I am the only loopy musician so I really = want some=20 more wierdos please! That goes for all you out there. 'cm on, it's=20 fun!  
 
It is a bit far north but worth the side trip if you = plan to=20 go up to BC or out to the San Juan Islands. The Tulips might be in bloom = by this=20 weekend. Skagit Valley is the Tulip capitol of the world. Lets = see how=20 else can I justify you trip out into "the sticks"? Let's see...... There = is alot=20 of Beer! and I'll buy a pitcher for anyone from Loopers delight! How's = that for=20 a bribe?

-------------------------------------------------
 
Michael Rothmeyer
www.mp3.com/switchback
NON- ROCK- ON
++++++++++++++
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Jason = Fink
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 = 12:43=20 PM
Subject: Seattle Looping=20 Activities?

Greetings,

I am heading to Seattle for a week = this=20 Saturday.  Are there any
locals that can point me to looping=20 gigs/activities going on?

Or Anything cool to do up there, for = that=20 matter....

thanks,
-jas
http://www.dimbulb.org
------=_NextPart_000_0073_01C0BD16.CE4A9B60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 17:52:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA05895; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:49:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:49:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "future perfect" To: Subject: RE: Expression pedal with PMC10 & DL4 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:50:17 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <20010404204956.5115.qmail@web9614.mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com So does anyone have a source of 10k pots? I got about 3 dead crybaby/volume pedal shells I can modify for use with my DL4, but the standard crybaby pot is 100k. $70 for a Line6 pedal is kinda high. Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices http://www.hazardfactor.com > > --- Steve Lawson wrote: > > > Last night I adapted a Kawai expression pedal to > > > work with my DL-4. The Line 6 pedals want a mono > > > plug hooked up to a 10K pot. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 17:54:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA05138; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:42:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:42:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010404214153.493.qmail@web5103.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:41:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Alx Subject: Re: Jamman click noise To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I´ve also always noticed a click/pop at the begining of each loop but not so loud to call it "annoying", perhaps your jamman has some kind of problem, ¿maybe bad memory chips?, ¿did you expanded it to 32 sec.?. Alx. --- Patrick Bailey wrote: > Greetings all, > > Lately I've been noticing an annoying distorted pop > that occurs at the > beginning of each loop repetition in my Jamman. Any > other Jam men or women > have this same prob? Thanks > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 18:02:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA07459; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:59:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:59:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 14:22:07 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Looping with a mixer In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: estan@dnathree.com, loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 9:24 PM +0100 4/4/01, Estan Milkovitch wrote: >generally everyone uses their looping device with a guitar, I want to >use one with 2 turntables and a mixer but I have a couple of questions. > >As far as I can work out, I'd need some kind of effects send on my >mixer to be able to use ANY type of guitar pedal, can anyone confirm >this and if so, is there any way to get around this? That is generally true, but you can patch a system creatively to achieve some interesting effects. Everything depends on the specifics of your equipment, particularly when it comes to level and impedance matching between components. For instance, if you're using phonograph turntables their outputs need to go into preamplifier channels before the signals are strong enough to feed an effects device. If your mixer is designed so you can plug the turntables directly into it, then the preamps are built into the mixer. A second issue to the actual signal paths you have available, and how much independence you have for processing just one or another element of your mix. You can always patch your mixer outputs into effects devices, but then the entire mix will be processed. If your mixer has line level direct outputs on the turntable input channels, then you could patch those to the effects processors and bring the processor outputs back into the mixer (assuming you have extra inputs). You need to be specific about your mixer's architecture. If it's limited to just the turntable inputs, then your best solution is probably to buy a second small mixer and "kludge" together something with more control of the signal routing. For instance, one of the little Mackie 1202 mixers would allow you to add effects sends, microphone inputs, and even the possibility of doing surround sound, IF you're clever about it. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD zvonar@zvonar.com (818) 788-2202 voice zvonar@LCSaudio.com (818) 788-2203 fax zvonar@well.com http://www.zvonar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 18:08:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA07817; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:06:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:06:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACB9AA6.BA3EEB@fullcompass.com> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 17:05:26 -0500 From: "Jim Schaefer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: EMU ESI2000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Anyone use this sampler for doing live loops? Was wondering how well it would work. Thanks, Jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 18:18:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08242; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:15:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:15:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACB9BDF.7C8226D0@ernieball.com> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 15:10:39 -0700 Organization: Ernie Ball, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Looping with a mixer References: <200104042148.RAA05719@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------8B87F9435A65D58BFE792963" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Hans Lindauer Resent-Message-ID: <7qZBq.A.bAC.0z5y6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --------------8B87F9435A65D58BFE792963 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Estan- Not everyone here uses a looper with guitar. If you want to use a looper or other effect on turntables, the best way will probably be to use an effects send and then to return it to a dedicated channel. This isn't necessary, however. You can always send the mixer's output straight into the looper or effects device. This works best with stereo devices, of course. The drawback here is that if you have a different program on each deck and only want to loop or effect one of them, it's impossible. The other alternative is to use an external phono preamp and run only one turntable into the effects, and then run that into the line input on your mixer. P.S. The Rane TTM54i has "effects send" is really an insert. Make sure that if you look into DJ mixers with effects sends, that they will work the way you want them to. -Hans > Subject: Looping with a mixer > Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 21:24:32 +0100 > From: Estan Milkovitch > To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com > > Hi, I've been reading the messages for a while and I've noticed that > generally everyone uses their looping device with a guitar, I want to > use one with 2 turntables and a mixer but I have a couple of > questions. > > > As far as I can work out, I'd need some kind of effects send on my > mixer to be able to use ANY type of guitar pedal, can anyone confirm > this and if so, is there any way to get around this? > > Thanks. > > Estan Milko > --------------8B87F9435A65D58BFE792963 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Estan-

Not everyone here uses a looper with guitar.  If you want to use a looper or other effect on turntables, the best way will probably be to use an effects send and then to return it to a dedicated channel.  This isn't necessary, however.  You can always send the mixer's output straight into the looper or effects device.  This works best with stereo devices, of course.  The drawback here is that if you have a different program on each deck and only want to loop or effect one of them, it's impossible.  The other alternative is to use an external phono preamp and run only one turntable into the effects, and then run that into the line input on your mixer.

P.S.  The Rane TTM54i has "effects send" is really an insert.  Make sure that if you look into DJ mixers with effects sends, that they will work the way you want them to.

-Hans
 

Subject: Looping with a mixer
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 21:24:32 +0100
From: Estan Milkovitch <estan@freeuk.com>
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com 
Hi, I've been reading the messages for a while and I've noticed that 
generally everyone uses their looping device with a guitar, I want to 
use one with 2 turntables and a mixer but I have a couple of questions.


As far as I can work out, I'd need some kind of effects send on my 
mixer to be able to use ANY type of guitar pedal, can anyone confirm 
this and if so, is there any way to get around this?

Thanks.

Estan Milko
--------------8B87F9435A65D58BFE792963-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 18:54:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA09300; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:45:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:45:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <01a701c0bd58$e3068180$9c2d073e@estan> From: "Estan Milko" To: References: <200104042148.RAA05719@hemlock.violacea.com> <3ACB9BDF.7C8226D0@ernieball.com> Subject: Re: Looping with a mixer Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:45:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01A4_01C0BD61.4413CE80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01A4_01C0BD61.4413CE80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yeah, I have a Rane TTM52 as well as a Stanton SK2 at the moment. I = have to get rid of my Rane tho and I'm torn between a Vestax 07pro and a = Stanton SK2F with focus fader. I think I'm gonna have to go with the = Vestax 07pro since it has an effects send which clears up lots of the = problems. BTW, thanks for all the responses (some very detailed ones). The main = problem I have is that I NEED a mixer with a sharp cut in on the fader = and also a smooth fader. This kinda rules out most mixers that have = more than 2 channels so I guess my only option is either to buy a = session mixer (Stanton does one called an ISM-3 in case anyone's = interested, it's about $50 and has loads on inputs and out puts, it's = alose very small) or to make sure that the next mixer I buy has effects = send. One a final note, if anyone wants to see a good turntablist using a = looper, checkout the video "Thus Rumble" where DJ Radar creates a track = where he drums, lays a bassline and scratches over the top. Thanks Estan Milko ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Hans Lindauer=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 11:10 PM Subject: Re: Looping with a mixer Hi Estan-=20 Not everyone here uses a looper with guitar. If you want to use a = looper or other effect on turntables, the best way will probably be to = use an effects send and then to return it to a dedicated channel. This = isn't necessary, however. You can always send the mixer's output = straight into the looper or effects device. This works best with stereo = devices, of course. The drawback here is that if you have a different = program on each deck and only want to loop or effect one of them, it's = impossible. The other alternative is to use an external phono preamp = and run only one turntable into the effects, and then run that into the = line input on your mixer.=20 P.S. The Rane TTM54i has "effects send" is really an insert. Make = sure that if you look into DJ mixers with effects sends, that they will = work the way you want them to.=20 -Hans=20 =20 Subject: Looping with a mixer=20 Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 21:24:32 +0100=20 From: Estan Milkovitch =20 To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Hi, I've been reading the messages for a while and I've noticed that=20 generally everyone uses their looping device with a guitar, I want to=20 use one with 2 turntables and a mixer but I have a couple of questions. As far as I can work out, I'd need some kind of effects send on my=20 mixer to be able to use ANY type of guitar pedal, can anyone confirm=20 this and if so, is there any way to get around this? Thanks. Estan Milko ------=_NextPart_000_01A4_01C0BD61.4413CE80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yeah, I have a Rane TTM52 as well as a = Stanton SK2=20 at the moment.  I have to get rid of my Rane tho and I'm torn = between a=20 Vestax 07pro and a Stanton SK2F with focus fader.  I think I'm = gonna have=20 to go with the Vestax 07pro since it has an effects send which clears up = lots of=20 the problems.
 
BTW, thanks for all the responses (some = very=20 detailed ones).  The main problem I have is that I NEED a mixer = with a=20 sharp cut in on the fader and also a smooth fader.  This kinda = rules out=20 most mixers that have more than 2 channels so I guess my only option is = either=20 to buy a session mixer (Stanton does one called an ISM-3 in case = anyone's=20 interested, it's about $50 and has loads on inputs and out puts, it's = alose very=20 small) or to make sure that the next mixer I buy has effects = send.
 
One a final note, if anyone wants to = see a good=20 turntablist using a looper, checkout the video "Thus Rumble" where DJ = Radar=20 creates a track where he drums, lays a bassline and scratches over the=20 top.
 
Thanks
 
Estan Milko
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Hans = Lindauer=20
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 = 11:10=20 PM
Subject: Re: Looping with a = mixer

Hi Estan-=20

Not everyone here uses a looper with guitar.  If you want to = use a=20 looper or other effect on turntables, the best way will probably be to = use an=20 effects send and then to return it to a dedicated channel.  This = isn't=20 necessary, however.  You can always send the mixer's output = straight into=20 the looper or effects device.  This works best with stereo = devices, of=20 course.  The drawback here is that if you have a different = program on=20 each deck and only want to loop or effect one of them, it's = impossible. =20 The other alternative is to use an external phono preamp and run only = one=20 turntable into the effects, and then run that into the line input on = your=20 mixer.=20

P.S.  The Rane TTM54i has "effects send" is really an = insert. =20 Make sure that if you look into DJ mixers with effects sends, that = they will=20 work the way you want them to.=20

-Hans
 =20

Subject: Looping with a = mixer=20
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 21:24:32 +0100=20
From: Estan Milkovitch = <estan@freeuk.com>=20
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com 
Hi, I've been reading the messages for a while and I've noticed =
that 
generally everyone uses their looping device with a guitar, I want =
to 
use one with 2 turntables and a mixer but I have a couple of questions.


As far as I can work out, I'd need some kind of effects send on my 
mixer to be able to use ANY type of guitar pedal, can anyone =
confirm 
this and if so, is there any way to get around this?

Thanks.

Estan Milko
------=_NextPart_000_01A4_01C0BD61.4413CE80-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 18:58:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA09713; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:54:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:54:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.174.121.53] From: "Patrick Bailey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Expression pedal with PMC10 & DL4 Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 15:54:03 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Apr 2001 22:54:03.0841 (UTC) FILETIME=[25644B10:01C0BD5A] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Line666 is more like it, that is a RIDICULOUS price for an expression pedal. You might want to check Small Bear Electronics or New Sensor. (They'll show up in Google). >From: "future perfect" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >Subject: RE: Expression pedal with PMC10 & DL4 >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 17:50:17 -0400 > >So does anyone have a source of 10k pots? I got about 3 dead crybaby/volume >pedal shells I can modify for use with my DL4, but the standard crybaby >pot >is 100k. $70 for a Line6 pedal is kinda high. > >Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices >http://www.hazardfactor.com > > > > > > > > > --- Steve Lawson wrote: > > > > Last night I adapted a Kawai expression pedal to > > > > work with my DL-4. The Line 6 pedals want a mono > > > > plug hooked up to a 10K pot. > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 19:04:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA09543; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:52:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:52:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.174.121.53] From: "Patrick Bailey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jamman click noise Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 15:50:56 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Apr 2001 22:50:56.0642 (UTC) FILETIME=[B5CFFE20:01C0BD59] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I haven't added any memory, it still has the stock 8 sec. Yes, it is so loud, it is unuseable. It sounds like a skipping record! I'm thinking it might be bad midi cables, is this a possibility? >From: Alx >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Jamman click noise >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:41:53 -0700 (PDT) > >I´ve also always noticed a click/pop at the begining >of each loop but not so loud to call it "annoying", >perhaps your jamman has some kind of problem, ¿maybe >bad memory chips?, ¿did you expanded it to 32 sec.?. >Alx. > > >--- Patrick Bailey wrote: > > Greetings all, > > > > Lately I've been noticing an annoying distorted pop > > that occurs at the > > beginning of each loop repetition in my Jamman. Any > > other Jam men or women > > have this same prob? Thanks > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > http://explorer.msn.com > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 19:11:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA11540; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:08:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:08:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: paulreisler@earthlink.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:07:00 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Paul Reisler Subject: Re: question on bowing Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i use an ebow on hammered dulcimer with loops. it's quite an eerie effect. i've used it on a few album recordings--Beth Nielsen-Chapman's Deeper Still (not out yet) and a couple from my band, Trapezoid, "Remembered Ways" and "Long Time Down this Road." since these are recordings and not live i don't loop them. i use the ebow quite a bit in loops in live shows. i also use the ebow on acoustic midi guitar which can be pretty wild depending on the midi patch. regualr bow would be problematic on both instruments. ebow works by creating a magnetic field that keeps the string vibrating. paul reisler >i too saw pelt in d.c. -- any droners out there would love pelts use >textures to create vivid and often atonal sound-scapes. very "visual" >music. >im not sure who, but one of the members used a bow on a tambura...it >sounded fantastic. > >question- any loopers out there use a bow on non-bowed instruments? or >even non-instruments? (your pet rats metal cage perhaps?) ive always been >intrigued by the orchestral saw and the waterfone (sorry for the >spelling...) anyone loopng a bowed 12' steel i-beam? > >i assume when using a bow on a standard 6 string guitar, one would need to >build a 'arch' type bridge... has anyone done this? > >sorry if this post seems elementary, > >-curt > > > > > > > > >"LEE, THANIEL I" on 04/04/2001 12:41:24 PM > >Please respond to Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >cc: > >Subject: pelt > > >any one out there like pelt. i saw them live awhile back and i thought they >rocked in a drone way. keenan lawler and pelt just made arecord together it >rocks in a drone way to. it was recorded in a silo. -thaniel ion lee Paul Reisler Trapezoid/Ki Theatre PO Box 38 Washington, VA 22747 540.987.3164 540.987.3166 fax zoid@pobox.com www.kitheatre.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 19:39:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12356; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:37:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:37:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:33:50 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: RE: Expression pedal with PMC10 & DL4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <49vraD.A.FAD.m-6y6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Line666 is more like it, that is a RIDICULOUS price for an >expression pedal. You might want to check Small Bear Electronics or >New Sensor. (They'll show up in Google). I concur, wholeheartedly... and i'm the guy usually singing praise for Line6. I was stupid enough to buy it from their website and wait 6 weeks for it. when i opened the box, i almost fell over. not exactly what you would call sturdy. kindof like a cheap EV5. believe me, if someone broke into the house, you wouldn't want to bash 'em over the head with this...now that ernie ball pedal, on the other hand...hmmm.... Line666... i like that... also, don't expect magic with an exp. pedal controlling the DL4. it works, and it really opens the pedal up...but it's been a frustrating ride for me ever since. YMMV. best, rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 19:40:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12435; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:38:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:38:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 16:37:03 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: question on bowing Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com paul, can you be a bit more specific about the ebow on the hammered dulcimer? Where abouts do you hold it in relation to the bridge(s)? can you use it on all of the registers? interesting application...never thought of doing that one...till tonight, that is. thanks. rich. >i use an ebow on hammered dulcimer with loops. it's quite an eerie effect. >i've used it on a few album recordings--Beth Nielsen-Chapman's Deeper Still >(not out yet) and a couple from my band, Trapezoid, "Remembered Ways" and >"Long Time Down this Road." since these are recordings and not live i >don't loop them. i use the ebow quite a bit in loops in live shows. i >also use the ebow on acoustic midi guitar which can be pretty wild >depending on the midi patch. regualr bow would be problematic on both >instruments. ebow works by creating a magnetic field that keeps the string >vibrating. >paul reisler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 19:41:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA12655; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:40:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 19:40:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 18:40:04 -0500 Subject: Re: Expression pedal with PMC10 From: Steve Ginn To: Loopers Delight Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <008701c0bd2a$956e8c20$cf2cf7c2@zetnet.co.uk> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > way described above, with that work? I'm not > massively into the idea of spending $$ on a Line 6 pedal, and the Boss EV > thingie is even more! Yeah its a shame. The Yamaha pedal is the lowest price one that I have found, has a stereo jack and to me has a better feel to it than the Boss or Line 6 models. Steve From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 20:04:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA14313; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 20:02:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 20:02:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Delivered-To: fixup-Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com@fixme User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 16:06:15 -0700 Subject: Seattle Looping Activities From: Tiktok To: "Looper's Delight" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'll be playing several times in the upcoming week, both solo (Tiktok) and with my loopy band, Electrochakra: Tiktok: Monday, April 9th, 11:30PM (with D-Rage) I-Spy (1921 5th Ave) Quadraphonic madness $5 cover Thursday, April 12th, 7:30PM (and also April 13,15) Lobby of Empty Space Theatre (3509 Fremont Avenue North) Pre-show and intermission performance during the premiere of "Killer Joe" Tickets: $28 Electrochakra: Thursday, April 5th, 7PM Seattle Glassblowing Studio (2227 5th Avenue) With live glass blowing (not by the band) Free Friday, April 6th, 10:30PM The Rain Dancer (4217 University Way NE) w/ Nature Boy Saints and Rai $7 cover Be seeing you, Travis Hartnett -- MP3's and calendar of upcoming shows available at: www.mp3.com/electrochakra From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 20:09:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA14466; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 20:07:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 20:07:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACBB7BB.352C6C20@virtulink.com> Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 20:09:31 -0400 From: David Beardsley Organization: SSI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: question on bowing References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com rich wrote: > > paul, > > can you be a bit more specific about the ebow on the hammered > dulcimer? Where abouts do you hold it in relation to the bridge(s)? > can you use it on all of the registers? interesting > application...never thought of doing that one...till tonight, that > is. thanks. Over a harmonic. -- * D a v i d B e a r d s l e y * 49/32 R a d i o "all microtonal, all the time" * http://www.virtulink.com/immp/lookhere.htm * http://mp3.com/davidbeardsley From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 20:22:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA15046; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 20:20:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 20:20:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "future perfect" To: Subject: RE: Expression pedal with PMC10 & DL4 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 20:21:04 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6151 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com heya rich, or anyone with the line6 exp pedal- if you get a chance at some point, open that sucker up- maybe the pot has a part # or manufacturer ID on it- they gotta buy it from somewhere. then we can encorage people to modify cheaper pedals so they don't have to pay such a high price. Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices http://www.hazardfactor.com > also, don't expect magic with an exp. pedal controlling the DL4. it > works, > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 21:20:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA17450; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 21:18:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 21:18:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010405011813.30623.qmail@web9614.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:18:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Dumeril Seven Subject: RE: Expression pedal with PMC10 & DL4 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6152 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --- rich wrote: > also, don't expect magic with an exp. pedal controlling the DL4. it > works, and it really opens the pedal up...but it's been a frustrating > ride for me ever since. YMMV. What problems have you been running into? I just started using an expression pedal with my DL4 and MM4 a couple days ago when I converted my Kawai pedal. I'm curious what problems I'm going to run into.... D7 ===== Dumeril7 dumeril7@SPAMBEGONEyahoo.com Anti-spam measures in place -- remove "SPAMBEGONE" from my e-mail address if you want to use it.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 21:20:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA17489; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 21:19:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 21:19:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:17:50 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: RE: Expression pedal with PMC10 & DL4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6153 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com christ, after i paid THAT MUCH for the damn thing? what the hell are you thinking? just kidding...sure...i'll see what i can come up with. apologies to those with religious sensitivities...i just realized i got christ, damn and hell all in the first two lines... ah well...hell has all the good bands anyway. rich >heya rich, or anyone with the line6 exp pedal- if you get a chance at some >point, open that sucker up- maybe the pot has a part # or manufacturer ID on >it- they gotta buy it from somewhere. then we can encorage people to modify >cheaper pedals so they don't have to pay such a high price. > >Dave Eichenberger- guitars.loops.devices >http://www.hazardfactor.com > > >> also, don't expect magic with an exp. pedal controlling the DL4. it >> works, > >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 22:28:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA20347; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:26:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:26:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <071701c0bd78$2228d380$cdad5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: "ambient" , "beyond_em Onelist" , "ElectronicMusic Onelist" , "Loopers Delight" , "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" , "EMUSIC-L" , "SYNTH-L" , "Analogue Heaven" , "Space Music List" , "spacemusic Onelist" Subject: EM/Ambient Dinner? Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:28:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6154 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'm thinking of coming up I-95 from Okefenokee on Tuesday, April 24th. I should be able to make it to the Washington, D.C. area. Anyone near by who is interested in a dinner get-together, please contact me privately. Bill billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html ============================================================================ Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list:, send email to: emusic-wdiy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 4 22:59:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA21588; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:56:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:56:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <2f.1358cc40.27fd3894@aol.com> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:55:16 EDT Subject: Re: question on bowing To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6155 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >rich wrote: >> paul, >> can you be a bit more specific about the ebow on the hammered >> dulcimer? Where abouts do you hold it in relation to the bridge(s)? >> can you use it on all of the registers? interesting >> application...never thought of doing that one...till tonight, that >> is. thanks. well, i thunk that the subject was bowing-with-a-bow, but: since it turned into e-bowing: i have a kikuyae ---(chrysanthemum harp)--- which is a japanese folk-instrument, inna dulcimer-stylie. i built a lil 'fan' w/a brushless motor ---(that i got from radio shack/tandy)--- which is mounted above the strings. when the motor is turned on, the soft blades of the fan brush the strings into activity: kinda like the old 'gizmotron', but simpler: homemade bowing: DIY: great for looping..... best, splattercell / dt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 00:18:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA25693; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:16:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:16:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Apparently-From: From: "Mike Feeney" To: Subject: Breathlanes Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:15:37 -0500 Message-ID: <001601c0bd87$11752b60$553c1118@muncie1.in.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4A9A@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6156 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Has anyone heard the band "Breathlanes" from Athens, Georgia? Their guitarist is who really got me curious about looping several years ago. They were predominantly a two piece band for a long time, with John Miley (a former Fripp student who uses a drop-C tuning) on guitar and my friend Jamie DeRevere on drums. They later joined up with a female vocalist and often have a guest bassist sit in on their performances, as well as sometimes incorporate projected films behind them as they perform. Some amazing stuff. If you ever have the chance, check them out. You will not be sorry. =) I just checked and realized they do have a pretty low-tech web site out there. not much to look at, but if you want to check it out, it's at www.breathlanes.com . -Mike _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 01:54:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA28679; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 01:52:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 01:52:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:21:58 -0800 From: Andrew Pask Subject: Los Angeles Gig spam To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <20010404142159-r01010600-c9bc76b8@192.168.1.1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.1.6 (Bluto) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6157 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Howdy LA Loopers, Come along and say hi! Cheers Andrew T u s a l a v a SLO and Kaleidacousticon with thanks to the Len Lye Foundation presents Len Lye's first great animated film with a new Soundtrack by Andrew Pask Saturday 7th April 2001 7.30pm at SLO http://www.kaleidacousticon.com/tusalava.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 02:08:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA30243; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 02:06:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 02:06:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004b01c0bd96$44d92740$18a86fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: <2f.1358cc40.27fd3894@aol.com> Subject: Re: question on bowing Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:03:59 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6158 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, I tried using motors on my guitar some time ago but the pickups picked up (!) the sound of the whirring motor more than any attachments on the spindle. Does the brushless motor avoid this problem ? PS I also use a violin bow only on the bottom two strings of my bizzarre geetarre. I can acess the second one since its a bloody great thick bass guitar string - it sounds wonderful, ('specially through the Leslie : )) . I use an ebow too on anything that will vibrate. In fact i just had a thought - what about an ebow on a reverb spring ? - I'll try this out today. One of the beauties of this list is its always thought provoking. Gareth > i have a kikuyae ---(chrysanthemum harp)--- which is a japanese > folk-instrument, inna dulcimer-stylie. > i built a lil 'fan' w/a brushless motor ---(that i got from radio > shack/tandy)--- which is mounted above the strings. when the motor is turned > on, the soft blades of the fan brush the strings into activity: kinda like > the old 'gizmotron', but simpler: > homemade bowing: > DIY: > great for looping..... > best, > splattercell / dt > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 02:20:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA30553; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 02:18:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 02:18:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010405061712.708.qmail@web5102.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 23:17:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Alx Subject: Re: Jamman click noise To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6159 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --- Patrick Bailey wrote: > I haven't added any memory, it still has the stock 8 > sec. Yes, it is so > loud, it is unuseable. It sounds like a skipping > record! I'm thinking it > might be bad midi cables, is this a possibility? I don´t think the clicks are due to bad MIDI cables, to be sure try to set a loop with the front panel "tap" button, loop some CD music so you have your hands free, if after seting a loop with the front panel "tap" button the loud click it´s still there then I bet that it´s due to bad memory chips (even if you haven´t expanded it) or something inside the unit, ¿are you the original owner?, if not that makes me think... Alx. > > > >From: Alx > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Subject: Re: Jamman click noise > >Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:41:53 -0700 (PDT) > > > >I´ve also always noticed a click/pop at the > begining > >of each loop but not so loud to call it "annoying", > >perhaps your jamman has some kind of problem, > ¿maybe > >bad memory chips?, ¿did you expanded it to 32 > sec.?. > >Alx. > > > > > >--- Patrick Bailey > wrote: > > > Greetings all, > > > > > > Lately I've been noticing an annoying distorted > pop > > > that occurs at the > > > beginning of each loop repetition in my Jamman. > Any > > > other Jam men or women > > > have this same prob? Thanks > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > > http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 02:39:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA30963; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 02:37:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 02:37:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 23:39:14 -0700 From: Doug Lawrence Subject: RE: EMU ESI2000 In-reply-to: <3ACB9AA6.BA3EEB@fullcompass.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: jimsch@fullcompass.com Message-id: <000801c0bd9b$22501cb0$0382c83f@kinesys12> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6160 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I originally purchased an ESI2000 about three years ago to use as a "live act" sample tool. I found that it was very awkward since the keys were small for triggering sounds and had to be set-up for latching mode every time I booted the unit. I remember sitting there loading, placing, then arming all my samples for the keypad ... what a pain. I think it's a good sampler, but not in the "looper" arena ... Also, I found the sound processing very limiting (you have to buy an additional board for effects), was very slow, and much less powerful that what you can get in many of the units today, or even just crank out on your PC for base sounds. Also, if I remember correctly, it will only import the proprietary EMU sounds. I ended up getting rid of it and buying a Yamaha SU700 ... which was much better at making quick samples, assigning them to a nice large (somewhat touch sensitive) pad arranging them into a song, and performing live manipulation of sound. SU700's can be had on the market at a really competitive price these days, but I'd also consider checking out these units: Roland SP808EX Zoom SampleTrak ST-224 Yamaha SU200 <== this unit looks awesome for the price! Korg ElectribeS Read some reviews: http://www.samplenet.co.uk/CategoryDefault.asp?Category=Samplers -----Original Message----- From: Jim Schaefer [mailto:jimsch@fullcompass.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2001 3:05 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: EMU ESI2000 Anyone use this sampler for doing live loops? Was wondering how well it would work. Thanks, Jim From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 03:03:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA32690; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 03:00:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 03:00:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <01C0BDAE.D95E50D0.mpeters@csi.com> From: Michael Peters Reply-To: "mpeters@csi.com" To: "'Loopers Delight'" Subject: OT: info about soundcraft mixer Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:45:49 +0200 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-Mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 520050239610-0001@t-dialin.net Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6161 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com pardon this off topic question ... I'm trying to sell my classic Soundcraft 500 mixer (24 x 8 x 2) via Ebay here in Germany. I can't seem to find any online information about this mixer anywhere. Even Soundcraft (whose site seems to be down right now) only show information about their new mixers. Is there a Mixer's delight or something similar anywhere where I could find out more? = michael peters = electronic music & strange attractors = http://www.mpeters.de/mpeweb From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 03:38:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA01040; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 03:37:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 03:37:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010405073633.68356.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 00:36:33 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Pedal for Line 6 DL-4 To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6162 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I use one these (with an insert cable) as an exp pedal for my DL-4, Vortex, Digitech 2120. I'm pretty sure it will also work as a feedback pedal for the EDP. I suppose you could even use it as a volume pedal on the outputs of your effects boxes. I haven't tried that though. http://www.americanmusical.com/cgi-bin/SGIN0101.EXE?UID=2001040502084329&T1=PRL+PVP14L&UREQA=3&UREQB=5&FNM=00 John ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 04:19:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA02886; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 04:16:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 04:16:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002a01c0bda9$36f62e80$5389e3a5@looppool> From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: References: <200104050639.CAA31283@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: bowing instruments and a request for good thoughts Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 01:20:02 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6163 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've been fascinated with this bowing thread and thought I'd share my two cents: Here while back, I went out and bought the smallest Suzuki method bow I could find at Sylvain Music in Santa Cruz. It is wonderful on bass and electric guitar. It is so much shorter than a regular violing bow that it is more maneuverable with a guitar strapped on or in lap steel position (mind you, I'm not a guitarist or bassist, I just play one on t.v............cheesy, winking, smiley face emoticom here). Also, a very talented instrument maker here in Santa Cruz, Dennis Murphy, sold me a bow for a bowed psaltery that he custom built for me for $25. It is very simple and very short. I spent an hour this evening experimenting with it on a Gopichand (Indian monochord) and a Bau (Vietnamese monochord). Because it is made of hardwood, I could bow the string, use the back side of the bow to strike the string (I am a percussionist and a trapset player, professionally) and also I used the back of the bow as a slide. Using my fist (holding the bow) to strike the sides of the Gopichand I was able to get this really beatiful rapid warbling sounds as well as, sequencially bowing, tapping, plucking with my other hand and even using the side of my fist to get harmonics. What a universe of sounds......very electronic sounding, which I think is very cool: making acoustic instruments sound as if they are electronically processed. I can put anyone interested in touch with Dennis. These are great experimental bows. Apropos of nothing, my father went in for emergency stomach surgery tonight at 10 p.m. west coast time. He is 75 and in good spirits but I am worried about him. Any healing thoughts or prayers sent in his general direction would be greatly appreciated. His name is Arthur Lee Walker, M.D. and he instilled in me a great love for music and life itself. He has a wonderful laugh and loves humour. He's a good guy. Thanks, Rick Walker (loop.pool) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 04:46:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA03446; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 04:44:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 04:44:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACC4C27.E157391@vtx.ch> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 10:42:47 +0000 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: I got 2 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6164 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Todd Quincy wrote: > > Howdy, I just got a second EDP (yeah). > > I expect this will open a New World of possibilities. I was hoping to > hear some signal path tips and creative tricks from those of you who > employee 2 EDPs. from an earlyer post name looping tips and tricks --------- this is for stereo EDP setups with midi connection in between this is a "setup" routine therefore I guess we cannot play during the button pushes :=) 1 finger push all the rest can be done by footcontroler different cycle nb between L-R record the original cycle (Short <1 sec) press multiply on the slave machine (youre setting up the slaves multiples NB) count 6 press multiply on footswitch or master plex (ends multiply on slave and startmultiply the master; you are now setting the master multiples NB) count 8 press multiply on footswitch (endsMultiply on master) press undo wich will undo the multiply that was just started on the slave by the last multiply press) you now have a 6 to 8 cycle relationship between L and R this works the same Quantized or not in all sync modes Claude PS: this is only a starting point as there are a lot of similar "desync" moves that can be found if you play and think with it Overdub,record,reverse, ..... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 06:06:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA06569; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 06:03:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 06:03:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 06:02:41 EDT Subject: OT: Re: question on bowing To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6165 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com g, >I tried using motors on my guitar some time ago but the pickups picked >up (!) the sound of the whirring motor more than any attachments on the >spindle. Does the brushless motor avoid this problem ? well: the kikuyae is an acoustic instrument; the pickup that i've used is a piezo element, which i've placed pretty far from the electromechanical bow..... to avoid that noise. sorry! best, splttrcll From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 07:13:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA08615; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:03:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:03:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010405110326.81399.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 04:03:26 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Here's something you can't buy yet, to go with the Repeater you don't have yet! To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6166 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Akai Midi Controlled Filter....... http://formen.ign.com/news/30722.html ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 09:08:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA12641; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:06:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:06:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACC6D84.B334FDF3@pa.msu.edu> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 09:05:08 -0500 From: John McIntyre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Looping with a mixer References: <200104042148.RAA05719@hemlock.violacea.com> <3ACB9BDF.7C8226D0@ernieball.com> <01a701c0bd58$e3068180$9c2d073e@estan> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6167 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Estan Milko wrote: > >to make sure that the next mixer I buy has effects send. > > Of course it is not that simple. More than one effect send is better > than just one. > And there's the matter of pre-fader and post-fader sends. Pre-fader > means the > signal from the module/turntable/source gets sent to the send before > it reaches the > fader in the mixer. Post-fader means the signal goes to the send > after it is effected > by the fader in the mixer. Post-fader means the signal sent to the > effect will vary as > you move the fader. Pre-fader will not vary with the fader level: > this allows you to have > the effected signal even while the fader on the source is all the way > down; i.e., just > effect, no source. > > John McIntyre > Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept > Michigan State University > mcintyre@pa.msu.edu From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 10:15:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15030; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:07:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:07:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACC7BDD.CE94341F@club-internet.fr> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 16:06:21 +0200 From: Emmanuel PERILLE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Jazz music looping Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6168 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com As I am experimenting Cycloops, It works also great with jazz music, not only with tekno and rap Jazz looping is so live that the loop is never boring at all ... even listening again and again In comparison with DJRND2/3, Cycloops new features are the automatic Redsound BPM and rec level, ideal for DJ live looping. Once the tempo is displayed, just press a loop to start beat countdown, and there it is : perfect Dj live looping ! Cycloops clowns turntables in realtime, so the DJ could use it as a round effect or as a clowning turntable to crossfade between loops and LPs. The concept works great, hope people will appreciate it ! EP From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 11:07:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA17056; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:59:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:59:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <036a01c0bde0$c0de4510$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <200104050639.CAA31283@hemlock.violacea.com> <002a01c0bda9$36f62e80$5389e3a5@looppool> Subject: Re: bowing instruments and a request for good thoughts Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:57:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6169 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes! Gopichands are amazing! Such a simple instrument but with lots of expressiveness and sounds! I use one of those cheap Radio Shack tie-clip mics to loop it. Works great! My thoughts and prayers go out to your family, Rick. Let us know how your dad fares. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 11:30:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18380; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:27:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:27:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [152.163.190.1] From: "Jonathan Price" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jazz music looping Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 15:24:53 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Apr 2001 15:24:53.0224 (UTC) FILETIME=[8FFC3E80:01C0BDE4] Resent-Message-ID: <4Ehp4B.A.kcE.l5Iz6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6170 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Michael MAnring played at Wetlands in NYC last nite. No looping on his solo tune though. The performance did rock. ANybody attend this show? Jon >From: Emmanuel PERILLE >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Jazz music looping >Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 16:06:21 +0200 > >As I am experimenting Cycloops, It works also great with jazz music, not >only with tekno and rap >Jazz looping is so live that the loop is never boring at all ... even >listening again and again > >In comparison with DJRND2/3, Cycloops new features are the automatic >Redsound BPM and rec level, ideal for DJ live looping. Once the tempo is >displayed, just press a loop to start beat countdown, and there it is : >perfect Dj live looping ! > >Cycloops clowns turntables in realtime, so the DJ could use it as a >round effect or as a clowning turntable to crossfade between loops and >LPs. > >The concept works great, hope people will appreciate it ! > >EP > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 11:34:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18665; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:31:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:31:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACC8F32.2E8B280E@fullcompass.com> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 10:28:50 -0500 From: "Jim Schaefer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jazz music looping References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6171 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com No, I didnt. But would love to hear about it !! Jonathan Price wrote: > > Michael MAnring played at Wetlands in NYC last nite. > No looping on his solo tune though. > The performance did rock. > ANybody attend this show? > Jon > > >From: Emmanuel PERILLE > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Subject: Jazz music looping > >Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 16:06:21 +0200 > > > >As I am experimenting Cycloops, It works also great with jazz music, not > >only with tekno and rap > >Jazz looping is so live that the loop is never boring at all ... even > >listening again and again > > > >In comparison with DJRND2/3, Cycloops new features are the automatic > >Redsound BPM and rec level, ideal for DJ live looping. Once the tempo is > >displayed, just press a loop to start beat countdown, and there it is : > >perfect Dj live looping ! > > > >Cycloops clowns turntables in realtime, so the DJ could use it as a > >round effect or as a clowning turntable to crossfade between loops and > >LPs. > > > >The concept works great, hope people will appreciate it ! > > > >EP > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 11:42:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA19219; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:36:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:36:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Subject: Re: question on bowing To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Curtis P Seiss" Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:18:04 -0400 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on inetmail1/TWP(Release 5.0.6a |January 17, 2001) at 04/05/2001 11:17:38 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6172 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi all, ...the only problem i have found with bowing a guitar is the build up of rosin (sp?) on the frets and strings. not a problem, until its time to finger-pick. any suggestions on a quick fix? i tried a slighly damp cloth, but something about that scares me off. is there way around this? and why do i ask so many questions? -curt (still debating on removing the fretts from an old axe) "whiteoakstudios" on 04/05/2001 02:03:59 AM Please respond to Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: cc: Subject: Re: question on bowing Hi, I tried using motors on my guitar some time ago but the pickups picked up (!) the sound of the whirring motor more than any attachments on the spindle. Does the brushless motor avoid this problem ? PS I also use a violin bow only on the bottom two strings of my bizzarre geetarre. I can acess the second one since its a bloody great thick bass guitar string - it sounds wonderful, ('specially through the Leslie : )) . I use an ebow too on anything that will vibrate. In fact i just had a thought - what about an ebow on a reverb spring ? - I'll try this out today. One of the beauties of this list is its always thought provoking. Gareth > i have a kikuyae ---(chrysanthemum harp)--- which is a japanese > folk-instrument, inna dulcimer-stylie. > i built a lil 'fan' w/a brushless motor ---(that i got from radio > shack/tandy)--- which is mounted above the strings. when the motor is turned > on, the soft blades of the fan brush the strings into activity: kinda like > the old 'gizmotron', but simpler: > homemade bowing: > DIY: > great for looping..... > best, > splattercell / dt > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 11:51:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA19702; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:47:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:47:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Subject: Re: question on bowing, looping mechanisms To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Curtis P Seiss" Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:34:39 -0400 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on inetmail1/TWP(Release 5.0.6a |January 17, 2001) at 04/05/2001 11:32:01 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6173 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com clever! this thread will ultimatley lead back to looping... i wanted to share this idea : my wife visualizes a "turn-table hurdy-gurdy" in which a chrystal coblet is placed on the platter of a turn-table and an arm is constructed above the glass to "bow" the rim as it rotates to produce that old, familiar yet mysteriously beatiful tone. its seems like a great idea, so... whats the problem? ususally when creating those wonderfull wine glass drones, on would apply just a bit of vinager on the finger to get the perfect friction for coaxing out the harmonics- however, its not so easy to reproduce the delicate touch required with crude crunstruction technique and lack of materials to experiment with. has anyone tried to build something similar to this? i think this would make a great stage piece for our unusual brand of music (loops loops!) but the most important final element would be the "finger" part of the mechanism. any ideas on what we could try? -curt (hoping this is of the slightest interest) Hedewa7@aol.com on 04/04/2001 10:55:16 PM Please respond to Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: Subject: Re: question on bowing >rich wrote: >> paul, >> can you be a bit more specific about the ebow on the hammered >> dulcimer? Where abouts do you hold it in relation to the bridge(s)? >> can you use it on all of the registers? interesting >> application...never thought of doing that one...till tonight, that >> is. thanks. well, i thunk that the subject was bowing-with-a-bow, but: since it turned into e-bowing: i have a kikuyae ---(chrysanthemum harp)--- which is a japanese folk-instrument, inna dulcimer-stylie. i built a lil 'fan' w/a brushless motor ---(that i got from radio shack/tandy)--- which is mounted above the strings. when the motor is turned on, the soft blades of the fan brush the strings into activity: kinda like the old 'gizmotron', but simpler: homemade bowing: DIY: great for looping..... best, splattercell / dt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 12:02:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA20271; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:56:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 11:56:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: lindsay@pavestone.com Subject: Re: question on bowing, looping mechanisms To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2c February 2, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:48:49 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on dell.pavestone.com/Pavestone(Release 5.0.4a |July 24, 2000) at 04/05/2001 10:49:20 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6174 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com We're not going to start talking about Tibetan Bowls again, are we? I don't know if I could stand another oscilloscope-laden dispute over fundamentals and the harmonic properties of a bell-shaped instrument. Even though I think I fomented a great deal of the furor. "Curtis P Seiss" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: question on bowing, looping mechanisms 04/05/01 10:34 AM Please respond to Loopers-Delig ht clever! this thread will ultimatley lead back to looping... i wanted to share this idea : my wife visualizes a "turn-table hurdy-gurdy" in which a chrystal coblet is placed on the platter of a turn-table and an arm is constructed above the glass to "bow" the rim as it rotates to produce that old, familiar yet mysteriously beatiful tone. its seems like a great idea, so... whats the problem? ususally when creating those wonderfull wine glass drones, on would apply just a bit of vinager on the finger to get the perfect friction for coaxing out the harmonics- however, its not so easy to reproduce the delicate touch required with crude crunstruction technique and lack of materials to experiment with. has anyone tried to build something similar to this? i think this would make a great stage piece for our unusual brand of music (loops loops!) but the most important final element would be the "finger" part of the mechanism. any ideas on what we could try? -curt (hoping this is of the slightest interest) Hedewa7@aol.com on 04/04/2001 10:55:16 PM Please respond to Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: Subject: Re: question on bowing >rich wrote: >> paul, >> can you be a bit more specific about the ebow on the hammered >> dulcimer? Where abouts do you hold it in relation to the bridge(s)? >> can you use it on all of the registers? interesting >> application...never thought of doing that one...till tonight, that >> is. thanks. well, i thunk that the subject was bowing-with-a-bow, but: since it turned into e-bowing: i have a kikuyae ---(chrysanthemum harp)--- which is a japanese folk-instrument, inna dulcimer-stylie. i built a lil 'fan' w/a brushless motor ---(that i got from radio shack/tandy)--- which is mounted above the strings. when the motor is turned on, the soft blades of the fan brush the strings into activity: kinda like the old 'gizmotron', but simpler: homemade bowing: DIY: great for looping..... best, splattercell / dt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 12:10:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA21869; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:08:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:08:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010405011813.30623.qmail@web9614.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010405011813.30623.qmail@web9614.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 09:04:49 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: DL4 potentiometer and pedal comments Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <6qYCED.A.jTF.zfJz6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6175 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi all, here's the info for the pot inside the expression pedal from Line666. just four little screws...that wasn't so bad... a part number: 6G 3B20KX2 so, you electrogizmopartsandsolder guys should be able to go from there, yes? that's the only info on the pot. hope this helps. as for comments on the exp. pedal problems i have with the DL4, perhaps the archives may contain something...i've stated them before a couple o' times. here goes once again as brief as possible. The expression pedal is implemented in that it 'records' movements made to the panel knobs. So, put the exp pedal toe up and get a setting you like...if ya can, save this to one of the presets...makes things a bit easier to go back if ya screw up. Now, push the pedal toe down, and change the knobs to the preferred new setting. your'e done. So, now the pedal remembers where the knobs were in toe up, and now in toe down and it will move between these settings. so you can choose any ONE, or more knobs to turn and have the exp pedal control. fine. so here's my beef: I have the expression pedal set to control the mix only. toe up? no delay. toe down, 50/50 mix. Now let's say i have a preset delay with a certain tempo, but in a bridge, for example, i want to half the tempo. i can do that with my tap tempo, right? sure. tap in the new tempo and off ya go. Just try to mess with that expression pedal now...I Dare You. If you need to back off the mix in any way via the exp pedal, you will get a warp of the original tempo and the new half tempo delay (which is a trippy sound sure, but not one condusive to a structured 'song'), and the severity of the morph will depend on where the hell the pedal was when you hit that tap tempo change. beef 2: loop mode. expression pedal controls mix only. what a great thing to have a predelay in front of the looper, esp for a box so reasonably priced. so you lay a great loop bed down, and you want to come over the top with live playing (or i will often catch a loop in a digi PDS pedal earlier in the chain), then i'd like to add some delay on that via the DL4, maybe adding it into the DL4 loop sporadically, if i like. fine. Again, don't expect to be able to change the loop mix level via the exp pedal without it affecting some change to that predelay messing about you did. Problem is the pedal is always AWARE of the movements happening in real time, and it remembers and spits em back at you when you move it. I worked with George Van Wagner at line6 for a while on this. he concocted some trick of using an a/b box in line with the pedal. click it on to control the mix, but click it off to do any real time changes, so the pedal wouldn't 'see' the DL4, then click back to adjust mix (or whatever). Great idea, 'cept it didn't work. The exp pedal would stop 'seeing' the DL4, but wouldn't lock back on when you clicked back. sigh. i've been enjoying the DL4 more as a recording fx box than live...but then i haven't been playing live as much lately. the other part is that it's not line level, so that kind of holds you up there, too. other than that, excellent box. question: would it help to have one of the ebtech line level shifters? fx send out > ebtech > DL4 > 2 mixer channels. Or is that doing the same thing as just turning down the fx send? seems like i can't get a good send to the DL4 without clipping it, or having it sound weak on the return. A DL4pro with line level and better pedal support would be lovely. i would love to use the DL4 more in conjunction with my Electrix stuff, 'cept the DL4 is very sensitive to hot levels, and the Electrix stuff absolutely wants hot levels. hope this helps. as usual YMMV. rich >--- rich wrote: >> also, don't expect magic with an exp. pedal controlling the DL4. it >> works, and it really opens the pedal up...but it's been a frustrating >> ride for me ever since. YMMV. > >What problems have you been running into? I just started >using an expression pedal with my DL4 and MM4 a couple days >ago when I converted my Kawai pedal. I'm curious what >problems I'm going to run into.... > >D7 > >===== >Dumeril7 dumeril7@SPAMBEGONEyahoo.com >Anti-spam measures in place -- remove "SPAMBEGONE" from >my e-mail address if you want to use it.... > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 12:20:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA23034; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:18:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:18:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Michael.McEnany@thermacore.com Subject: vintage tube Echoplex To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.5 September 22, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:17:36 -0400 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on TCI-US-NOTES1/Servers/TCI(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 04/05/2001 12:17:36 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6177 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have an old, vintage, tube Echoplex I want to sell. It is a pre-maestro unit serial # 633. It is all original and includes footswitch two (old) cartridges, cables etc., even the tolex looks great. Works now but could use a new tape cartridge and clean/lube for maximum performance. It is currently on Ebay and the listing expires on 4/11/01. I thought maybe a collector would find it on your website since your folks seem quite serious. The condition and age of this unit would surely be appreciated by someone who knows what it is. STANDARD DISCLAIMER: This message is confidential. You should not copy it or disclose its contents to anyone. You may use and apply the information only for the intended purpose. Internet communications are not secure and therefore Thermacore International does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. Any views or opinions presented are only those of the author and not those of Thermacore International. If this email has come to you in error please delete it and any attachments. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 12:20:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA22462; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:15:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:15:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 09:13:15 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Subject: Re: bowing instruments and a request for good thoughts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id MAA22067 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6176 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Apropos of nothing, my father went in for emergency stomach surgery tonight at 10 p.m. west coast time. He is 75 and in good spirits but I am worried about him. Any healing thoughts or prayers sent in his general direction would be greatly appreciated. His name is Arthur Lee Walker, M.D. and he instilled in me a great love for music and life itself. He has a wonderful laugh and loves humour. He's a good guy. Thanks, Rick Walker (loop.pool) Hi Rick, I'm sorry to hear this about your dad... My thoughts go out to you and him through this tough time. I pray for the best... Yours, -Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 12:46:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA24036; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:43:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:43:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 09:40:16 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: Subject: Re: bowing instruments and a request for good thoughts Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id MAA23796 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6178 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Excuse me all... this was meant to be a private reply. -Miko > Apropos of nothing, my father went in for emergency stomach surgery tonight at 10 p.m. west coast time. He is 75 and in good spirits but I am worried about him. Any healing thoughts or prayers sent in his general direction would be greatly appreciated. His name is Arthur Lee Walker, M.D. and he instilled in me a great love for music and life itself. He has a wonderful laugh and loves humour. He's a good guy. Thanks, Rick Walker (loop.pool) Hi Rick, I'm sorry to hear this about your dad... My thoughts go out to you and him through this tough time. I pray for the best... Yours, -Miko From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 13:01:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA24547; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:57:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:57:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <89.4c256d8.27fdfd11@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:53:37 EDT Subject: Re: question on bowing, looping mechanisms To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6179 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com seisscp@washpost.com writes: >i wanted to share this idea : my wife visualizes a "turn-table hurdy-gurdy" >in which a chrystal coblet is placed on the platter of a turn-table and >an >arm is constructed above the glass to "bow" the rim as it rotates to >produce that old, familiar yet mysteriously beatiful tone. its seems like >a great idea, so... whats the problem? ususally when creating those >wonderfull wine glass drones, on would apply just a bit of vinager on >the >finger to get the perfect friction for coaxing out the harmonics- however, >its not so easy to reproduce the delicate touch required with crude >crunstruction technique and lack of materials to experiment with. has >anyone tried to build something similar to this? i think this would make >a >great stage piece for our unusual brand of music (loops loops!) but the >most important final element would be the "finger" part of the mechanism. >any ideas on what we could try? well, this instrument already exists; i *believe* it's called the 'glass harmonica'? best, spltrcll / dt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 13:22:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA26321; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:17:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:17:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACCA886.59282743@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 10:27:25 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: question on bowing, looping mechanisms References: <89.4c256d8.27fdfd11@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6181 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hedewa7@aol.com wrote: > ... > >great stage piece for our unusual brand of music (loops loops!) but the > >most important final element would be the "finger" part of the mechanism. > >any ideas on what we could try? > > well, this instrument already exists; > i *believe* it's called the 'glass harmonica'? > best, > spltrcll / dt for some things glassy, try: http://www.glassarmonica.com/ lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 13:23:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA26176; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:14:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:14:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACCA7FD.27D862A3@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 10:25:08 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: question on bowing, looping mechanisms References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <3f4QoC.A.yXG.IeKz6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6180 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com lindsay@pavestone.com wrote: > We're not going to start talking about Tibetan Bowls again, are we? > > I don't know if I could stand another oscilloscope-laden dispute over > fundamentals and the harmonic properties of a bell-shaped instrument. > > Even though I think I fomented a great deal of the furor. > > so far, you're the only one that's mentioned them. :-) lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 13:25:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA26401; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:19:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:19:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACCA933.57A0CA3B@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 10:30:19 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: bowing instruments and a request for good thoughts References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6182 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mike Biffle wrote: > Excuse me all... this was meant to be a private reply. > > -Miko > > > Apropos of nothing, my father went in for emergency stomach surgery tonight at 10 p.m. west coast time. He is 75 and in good spirits but I am worried about him. Any healing thoughts or prayers sent in his general direction would be greatly appreciated. His name is Arthur Lee Walker, M.D. and he instilled in me a great love for music and life itself. He has a wonderful laugh and loves humour. He's a good guy. Thanks, Rick Walker (loop.pool) > > Hi Rick, > > I'm sorry to hear this about your dad... My thoughts go out to you and him through this tough time. I pray for the best... > > Yours, > -Miko hey rick give my best to arthur lee. healing prayers goin' out... lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 13:28:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27166; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:26:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:26:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006c01c0bdf5$1c250800$36866fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: <89.4c256d8.27fdfd11@aol.com> Subject: Re: question on bowing, looping mechanisms Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 18:20:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6183 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes, Wasn't it invented by Benjamin Franklyn ? Gareth PS Tried the Ebow on reverb spring - I WON'T be incorporating that into my set anytime in the future - too much of a cacophony for me - some others on this list might dig it though : ) > seisscp@washpost.com writes: > >i wanted to share this idea : my wife visualizes a "turn-table hurdy-gurdy" > >in which a chrystal coblet is placed on the platter of a turn-table and > >an > >arm is constructed above the glass to "bow" the rim as it rotates to > >produce that old, familiar yet mysteriously beatiful tone. its seems like > >a great idea, so... whats the problem? ususally when creating those > >wonderfull wine glass drones, on would apply just a bit of vinager on > >the > >finger to get the perfect friction for coaxing out the harmonics- however, > >its not so easy to reproduce the delicate touch required with crude > >crunstruction technique and lack of materials to experiment with. has > >anyone tried to build something similar to this? i think this would make > >a > >great stage piece for our unusual brand of music (loops loops!) but the > >most important final element would be the "finger" part of the mechanism. > >any ideas on what we could try? > > well, this instrument already exists; > i *believe* it's called the 'glass harmonica'? > best, > spltrcll / dt > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 13:29:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA27295; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:27:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:27:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006d01c0bdf5$1cdda9a0$36866fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: Subject: Re: question on bowing Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 18:22:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6184 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Use the bow quite close to the bridge - away from the frets and out of the way of your picking fingers. Gareth > > hi all, > ...the only problem i have found with bowing a guitar is the build up > of rosin (sp?) on the frets and strings. not a problem, until its time to > finger-pick. any suggestions on a quick fix? i tried a slighly damp > cloth, but something about that scares me off. is there way around this? > and why do i ask so many questions? > > -curt > (still debating on removing the fretts from an old axe) > > > > > > > > > > "whiteoakstudios" on 04/05/2001 02:03:59 AM > > Please respond to Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > To: > cc: > > Subject: Re: question on bowing > > > Hi, > I tried using motors on my guitar some time ago but the pickups picked up > (!) the sound of the whirring motor more than any attachments on the > spindle. Does the brushless motor avoid this problem ? > PS I also use a violin bow only on the bottom two strings of my bizzarre > geetarre. I can acess the second one since its a bloody great thick bass > guitar string - it sounds wonderful, ('specially through the Leslie : )) . > I > use an ebow too on anything that will vibrate. In fact i just had a > thought - what about an ebow on a reverb spring ? - I'll try this out > today. > One of the beauties of this list is its always thought provoking. > > Gareth > > > > > > i have a kikuyae ---(chrysanthemum harp)--- which is a japanese > > folk-instrument, inna dulcimer-stylie. > > i built a lil 'fan' w/a brushless motor ---(that i got from radio > > shack/tandy)--- which is mounted above the strings. when the motor is > turned > > on, the soft blades of the fan brush the strings into activity: kinda > like > > the old 'gizmotron', but simpler: > > homemade bowing: > > DIY: > > great for looping..... > > best, > > splattercell / dt > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 13:44:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA28231; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:41:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:41:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004f01c0bdf6$76403de0$6b44230a@mlameyer02> X-Sybari-Space: 00000000 00000000 00000000 From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: References: <89.4c256d8.27fdfd11@aol.com> <006c01c0bdf5$1c250800$36866fd4@dolly> Subject: Re: question on bowing, looping mechanisms Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:32:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6185 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yeah, I think it was. Or at least Franklin invented an instrument like the one we're describing, whatever it's really called. I seem to think that this instrument was also the one Jimmy Page was playing on the beach or whatever in the film The Song Remains The Same. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "whiteoakstudios" To: Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 1:20 PM Subject: Re: question on bowing, looping mechanisms > Yes, > Wasn't it invented by Benjamin Franklyn ? > > Gareth > > PS Tried the Ebow on reverb spring - I WON'T be incorporating that into my > set anytime in the future - too much of a cacophony for me - some others on > this list might dig it though : ) > > > > > seisscp@washpost.com writes: > > >i wanted to share this idea : my wife visualizes a "turn-table > hurdy-gurdy" > > >in which a chrystal coblet is placed on the platter of a turn-table and > > >an > > >arm is constructed above the glass to "bow" the rim as it rotates to > > >produce that old, familiar yet mysteriously beatiful tone. its seems > like > > >a great idea, so... whats the problem? ususally when creating those > > >wonderfull wine glass drones, on would apply just a bit of vinager on > > >the > > >finger to get the perfect friction for coaxing out the harmonics- > however, > > >its not so easy to reproduce the delicate touch required with crude > > >crunstruction technique and lack of materials to experiment with. has > > >anyone tried to build something similar to this? i think this would make > > >a > > >great stage piece for our unusual brand of music (loops loops!) but the > > >most important final element would be the "finger" part of the mechanism. > > >any ideas on what we could try? > > > > well, this instrument already exists; > > i *believe* it's called the 'glass harmonica'? > > best, > > spltrcll / dt > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 13:46:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA28264; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:42:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:42:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <4a.13df7364.27fe07b9@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:39:05 EDT Subject: Re: Jamman click To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4a.13df7364.27fe07b9_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows UK sub 58 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6186 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_4a.13df7364.27fe07b9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit might be bad midi cables, is this a possibility? Could be because you're syncing the JamMan to a MIDI signal. You'll get this problem unless you use the Jamman as the source of the MIDI timecode. Reason is that MIDI isn't accurate enough for audio. The ends of the loop won't quite meet up. either that or make sure you don't play near the end of the loop. andy butler --part1_4a.13df7364.27fe07b9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
might be bad midi cables, is this a possibility?

Could be because you're syncing the JamMan to a MIDI signal.
You'll get this problem unless you use the Jamman
as the source of the MIDI timecode.
Reason is that MIDI isn't accurate enough for
audio. The ends of the loop won't quite meet up.


either that or make sure you don't play near the end of the loop.

andy butler  



--part1_4a.13df7364.27fe07b9_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 13:55:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA28695; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:50:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:50:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <4a.13df7364.27fe07b9@aol.com> References: <4a.13df7364.27fe07b9@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:46:57 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: Jamman click Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1225629676==_ma============" Resent-Message-ID: <0m8JfB.A.5_G.e_Kz6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6187 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1225629676==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" or, you can have the jammie slaved to an external signal, record the loop length without any input, then essentially overdub onto the existing loop length. this avoids that click problem. rich >might be bad midi cables, is this a possibility? > >Could be because you're syncing the JamMan to a MIDI signal. >You'll get this problem unless you use the Jamman >as the source of the MIDI timecode. >Reason is that MIDI isn't accurate enough for >audio. The ends of the loop won't quite meet up. > > >either that or make sure you don't play near the end of the loop. > >andy butler --============_-1225629676==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: Jamman click
or, you can have the jammie slaved to an external signal, record the loop length without any input, then essentially overdub onto the existing loop length.  this avoids that click problem.

rich


might be bad midi cables, is this a possibility?

Could be because you're syncing the JamMan to a MIDI signal.
You'll get this problem unless you use the Jamman
as the source of the MIDI timecode.
Reason is that MIDI isn't accurate enough for
audio. The ends of the loop won't quite meet up.


either that or make sure you don't play near the end of the loop.

andy butler  

--============_-1225629676==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 14:12:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30685; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:10:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:10:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACCD0A5.40857A23@vtx.ch> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 20:08:05 +0000 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com CC: Michel Dupuis Subject: Re: question on bowing, looping mechanisms References: <89.4c256d8.27fdfd11@aol.com> <006c01c0bdf5$1c250800$36866fd4@dolly> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6189 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com About looping mechanism a great setup from my friend Michel Dupuis you need a very old turn table (in plastic from the 60's and old garage sale records fill a film container with led granuls or sand .... make it heawy start the turn table set the arm on some spot then gently put the film box on the record surface put it beetween the center and the arm now the arm will hit the film box at each revolution and close the loop find some other interesting spots in the record etc.... if you can change the speed on the turn table its even better Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 14:12:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA30521; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:08:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:08:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACCB4F4.5F2D59C3@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 11:20:38 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: question on bowing, looping mechanisms References: <89.4c256d8.27fdfd11@aol.com> <006c01c0bdf5$1c250800$36866fd4@dolly> <004f01c0bdf6$76403de0$6b44230a@mlameyer02> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <21fWeB.A.TcH.ASLz6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6188 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Michael LaMeyer wrote: > Yeah, I think it was. Or at least Franklin invented an > instrument like the one we're describing, whatever it's really > called. > ... "Of all my inventions, the glass armonica has given me the greatest personal satisfaction." ? Benjamin Franklin ...from the site metioned earlier (in case y'all missed it) http://www.glassarmonica.com/ ps special note to tim nelson: mesmer played one :-) lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 14:47:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA31899; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:46:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:46:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Subject: looping mechanisms To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Curtis P Seiss" Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:13:22 -0400 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on inetmail1/TWP(Release 5.0.6a |January 17, 2001) at 04/05/2001 12:18:14 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <-DzhWD.A.LyH.B1Lz6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6190 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com lindsey and all, my apologies for offending anyone with an innocent question about something im trying to build. i had no idea it was such re-hashed idea. although tibet bowls are fantastic, im talking more about the performance value of having a strange rotating drone object whirring away as our group performs and also asking a question involving the tactile side of things, specifically-- what material would best synthesize a human finger. ive tried erasers, all sorts of plastic, but nothing seems to be 'gentle' enough... I don't know if I could stand another oscilloscope-laden dispute over fundamentals and the harmonic properties of a bell-shaped instrument. huh? actualy, nevermind... i dont want to know :) -curt lindsay@pavestone.com on 04/05/2001 11:48:49 AM Please respond to Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: Subject: Re: question on bowing, looping mechanisms We're not going to start talking about Tibetan Bowls again, are we? I don't know if I could stand another oscilloscope-laden dispute over fundamentals and the harmonic properties of a bell-shaped instrument. Even though I think I fomented a great deal of the furor. "Curtis P Seiss" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: question on bowing, looping mechanisms 04/05/01 10:34 AM Please respond to Loopers-Delig ht clever! this thread will ultimatley lead back to looping... i wanted to share this idea : my wife visualizes a "turn-table hurdy-gurdy" in which a chrystal coblet is placed on the platter of a turn-table and an arm is constructed above the glass to "bow" the rim as it rotates to produce that old, familiar yet mysteriously beatiful tone. its seems like a great idea, so... whats the problem? ususally when creating those wonderfull wine glass drones, on would apply just a bit of vinager on the finger to get the perfect friction for coaxing out the harmonics- however, its not so easy to reproduce the delicate touch required with crude crunstruction technique and lack of materials to experiment with. has anyone tried to build something similar to this? i think this would make a great stage piece for our unusual brand of music (loops loops!) but the most important final element would be the "finger" part of the mechanism. any ideas on what we could try? -curt (hoping this is of the slightest interest) Hedewa7@aol.com on 04/04/2001 10:55:16 PM Please respond to Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: Subject: Re: question on bowing >rich wrote: >> paul, >> can you be a bit more specific about the ebow on the hammered >> dulcimer? Where abouts do you hold it in relation to the bridge(s)? >> can you use it on all of the registers? interesting >> application...never thought of doing that one...till tonight, that >> is. thanks. well, i thunk that the subject was bowing-with-a-bow, but: since it turned into e-bowing: i have a kikuyae ---(chrysanthemum harp)--- which is a japanese folk-instrument, inna dulcimer-stylie. i built a lil 'fan' w/a brushless motor ---(that i got from radio shack/tandy)--- which is mounted above the strings. when the motor is turned on, the soft blades of the fan brush the strings into activity: kinda like the old 'gizmotron', but simpler: homemade bowing: DIY: great for looping..... best, splattercell / dt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 14:54:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA32377; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:52:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:52:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: lindsay@pavestone.com Subject: Re: looping mechanisms To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2c February 2, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:45:38 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on dell.pavestone.com/Pavestone(Release 5.0.4a |July 24, 2000) at 04/05/2001 01:46:08 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6191 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Oh, for cripes sake, now you're spelling my name wrong. Stamp, stamp, grumble, grumble, cast pissed-off glance eastward. Stop apologizing. At least you didn't ask about the Repeater. Have you tried a bit of leather? Made supply with mink oil or something? L "Curtis P Seiss" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: looping mechanisms 04/05/01 11:13 AM Please respond to Loopers-Delig ht lindsey and all, my apologies for offending anyone with an innocent question about something im trying to build. i had no idea it was such re-hashed idea. although tibet bowls are fantastic, im talking more about the performance value of having a strange rotating drone object whirring away as our group performs and also asking a question involving the tactile side of things, specifically-- what material would best synthesize a human finger. ive tried erasers, all sorts of plastic, but nothing seems to be 'gentle' enough... I don't know if I could stand another oscilloscope-laden dispute over fundamentals and the harmonic properties of a bell-shaped instrument. huh? actualy, nevermind... i dont want to know :) -curt lindsay@pavestone.com on 04/05/2001 11:48:49 AM Please respond to Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: Subject: Re: question on bowing, looping mechanisms We're not going to start talking about Tibetan Bowls again, are we? I don't know if I could stand another oscilloscope-laden dispute over fundamentals and the harmonic properties of a bell-shaped instrument. Even though I think I fomented a great deal of the furor. "Curtis P Seiss" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: question on bowing, looping mechanisms 04/05/01 10:34 AM Please respond to Loopers-Delig ht clever! this thread will ultimatley lead back to looping... i wanted to share this idea : my wife visualizes a "turn-table hurdy-gurdy" in which a chrystal coblet is placed on the platter of a turn-table and an arm is constructed above the glass to "bow" the rim as it rotates to produce that old, familiar yet mysteriously beatiful tone. its seems like a great idea, so... whats the problem? ususally when creating those wonderfull wine glass drones, on would apply just a bit of vinager on the finger to get the perfect friction for coaxing out the harmonics- however, its not so easy to reproduce the delicate touch required with crude crunstruction technique and lack of materials to experiment with. has anyone tried to build something similar to this? i think this would make a great stage piece for our unusual brand of music (loops loops!) but the most important final element would be the "finger" part of the mechanism. any ideas on what we could try? -curt (hoping this is of the slightest interest) Hedewa7@aol.com on 04/04/2001 10:55:16 PM Please respond to Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: Subject: Re: question on bowing >rich wrote: >> paul, >> can you be a bit more specific about the ebow on the hammered >> dulcimer? Where abouts do you hold it in relation to the bridge(s)? >> can you use it on all of the registers? interesting >> application...never thought of doing that one...till tonight, that >> is. thanks. well, i thunk that the subject was bowing-with-a-bow, but: since it turned into e-bowing: i have a kikuyae ---(chrysanthemum harp)--- which is a japanese folk-instrument, inna dulcimer-stylie. i built a lil 'fan' w/a brushless motor ---(that i got from radio shack/tandy)--- which is mounted above the strings. when the motor is turned on, the soft blades of the fan brush the strings into activity: kinda like the old 'gizmotron', but simpler: homemade bowing: DIY: great for looping..... best, splattercell / dt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 14:55:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA32446; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:53:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:53:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:57:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Burnett To: Subject: Re: looping mechanisms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: <8lEvSD.A.W6H.67Lz6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6192 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Curtis P Seiss wrote: > tibet bowls are fantastic, im talking more about the performance value of > having a strange rotating drone object whirring away as our group performs > and also asking a question involving the tactile side of things, > specifically-- what material would best synthesize a human finger. ive > tried erasers, all sorts of plastic, but nothing seems to be 'gentle' > enough... Maybe one of the softer leathers, such as, say a deerskin driving glove? regards, Steve -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Burnett Admin, webslingerZ sburnett@webslingerz.com http://www.webslingerz.com/sburnett From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 15:06:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01472; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:02:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:02:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACCC154.8A985820@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 12:13:38 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: question on bowing, looping mechanisms References: <89.4c256d8.27fdfd11@aol.com> <006c01c0bdf5$1c250800$36866fd4@dolly> <3ACCD0A5.40857A23@vtx.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6193 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Claude Voit wrote: > About looping mechanism > > a great setup from my friend Michel Dupuis > > you need a very old turn table (in plastic from the 60's and old garage > sale records > > fill a film container with led granuls or sand .... make it heawy > > start the turn table set the arm on some spot > > then gently put the film box on the record surface > put it beetween the center and the arm > > now the arm will hit the film box at each revolution and close the loop > find some other interesting spots in the record etc.... > > if you can change the speed on the turn table its even better > > Claude what, no midi? :-) lance g. actually, i have a friend who's into this also, but likes to have at least a dozen or so going at once...i suppose putting them all into a mixer would be fun. or maybe a blender! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 15:10:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA01734; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:08:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:08:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <040f01c0be03$bb4981f0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: Subject: Re: looping mechanisms Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:07:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6194 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well, t*b*t*n b*w*s use a small wooden stick. I think it's the grain of the wood that does it. I'd try a small, unfinished dowel rod. It'll be difficult to get the right tension. Maybe use some springy material like foam rubber or plastic to hold the dowel rod. Of course, you could try a doll with a spring loaded arm... Like a the hair on a violin bow, you need a roughed (serrated?) surface that "catches" as it rubs. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 16:10:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04509; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:08:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:08:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Todd Quincy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: looping mechanisms Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:06:24 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0BE0B.E4424580" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6195 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BE0B.E4424580 Content-Type: text/plain what material would best synthesize a human finger. ive tried erasers, all sorts of plastic, but nothing seems to be 'gentle' enough... how about a big Were #1 foam finger. Talk about a stage show! tq lindsay@pavestone.com on 04/05/2001 11:48:49 AM Please respond to Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: Subject: Re: question on bowing, looping mechanisms We're not going to start talking about Tibetan Bowls again, are we? I don't know if I could stand another oscilloscope-laden dispute over fundamentals and the harmonic properties of a bell-shaped instrument. Even though I think I fomented a great deal of the furor. "Curtis P Seiss" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: question on bowing, looping mechanisms 04/05/01 10:34 AM Please respond to Loopers-Delig ht clever! this thread will ultimatley lead back to looping... i wanted to share this idea : my wife visualizes a "turn-table hurdy-gurdy" in which a chrystal coblet is placed on the platter of a turn-table and an arm is constructed above the glass to "bow" the rim as it rotates to produce that old, familiar yet mysteriously beatiful tone. its seems like a great idea, so... whats the problem? ususally when creating those wonderfull wine glass drones, on would apply just a bit of vinager on the finger to get the perfect friction for coaxing out the harmonics- however, its not so easy to reproduce the delicate touch required with crude crunstruction technique and lack of materials to experiment with. has anyone tried to build something similar to this? i think this would make a great stage piece for our unusual brand of music (loops loops!) but the most important final element would be the "finger" part of the mechanism. any ideas on what we could try? -curt (hoping this is of the slightest interest) Hedewa7@aol.com on 04/04/2001 10:55:16 PM Please respond to Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: Subject: Re: question on bowing >rich wrote: >> paul, >> can you be a bit more specific about the ebow on the hammered >> dulcimer? Where abouts do you hold it in relation to the bridge(s)? >> can you use it on all of the registers? interesting >> application...never thought of doing that one...till tonight, that >> is. thanks. well, i thunk that the subject was bowing-with-a-bow, but: since it turned into e-bowing: i have a kikuyae ---(chrysanthemum harp)--- which is a japanese folk-instrument, inna dulcimer-stylie. i built a lil 'fan' w/a brushless motor ---(that i got from radio shack/tandy)--- which is mounted above the strings. when the motor is turned on, the soft blades of the fan brush the strings into activity: kinda like the old 'gizmotron', but simpler: homemade bowing: DIY: great for looping..... best, splattercell / dt ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BE0B.E4424580 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: looping mechanisms

    what material = would best synthesize a human finger.   ive
    tried erasers, all sorts of plastic, = but nothing seems to be 'gentle'
    enough...


    how about a big Were #1 foam = finger. Talk about a stage = show!

    tq








    lindsay@pavestone.com on 04/05/2001 = 11:48:49 AM

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    To:   = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    cc:

    Subject:  Re: question on bowing, = looping mechanisms



    We're not going to start talking about = Tibetan Bowls again, are we?

    I don't know if I could stand another = oscilloscope-laden dispute over
    fundamentals and the harmonic = properties of a bell-shaped instrument.

    Even though I think I fomented a great = deal of the furor.





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    clever!     this = thread will ultimatley lead back to looping...

    i wanted to share this idea : my wife = visualizes a "turn-table hurdy-gurdy"
    in which a chrystal coblet is placed = on the platter of a turn-table and an
    arm is constructed above the glass to = "bow" the rim as it rotates to
    produce that old, familiar yet = mysteriously beatiful tone.  its seems like
    a great idea, so... whats the = problem?     ususally when creating those
    wonderfull  wine glass drones, = on would apply just a bit of vinager on the
    finger to get the perfect friction = for coaxing out the harmonics-  however,
    its not so easy to reproduce the = delicate touch required with crude
    crunstruction technique and lack of = materials to experiment with.  has
    anyone tried to build something = similar to this?  i think this would make a
    great stage piece for our unusual = brand of music (loops loops!)  but the
    most important final element would be = the "finger" part of the mechanism.
    any ideas on what we could = try?


    -curt
    (hoping this is of the slightest = interest)







    Hedewa7@aol.com on 04/04/2001 10:55:16 = PM

    Please respond to = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com

    To:   = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
    cc:

    Subject:  Re: question on = bowing


    >rich wrote:
    >> paul,
    >> can you be a bit more = specific about the ebow on the hammered
    >> dulcimer?  Where abouts = do you hold it in relation to the bridge(s)?
    >> can you use it on all of the = registers?  interesting
    >> application...never thought = of doing that one...till tonight, that
    >> is.  thanks.
    well, i thunk that the subject was = bowing-with-a-bow, but:
    since it turned into e-bowing:
    i have a kikuyae ---(chrysanthemum = harp)--- which is a japanese
    folk-instrument, inna = dulcimer-stylie.
    i built a lil 'fan' w/a brushless = motor ---(that i got from radio
    shack/tandy)--- which is mounted = above the strings. when the motor is
    turned
    on, the soft blades of the fan brush = the strings into activity: kinda like
    the old 'gizmotron', but = simpler:
    homemade bowing:
    DIY:
    great for looping.....
    best,
    splattercell / dt















------_=_NextPart_001_01C0BE0B.E4424580-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 16:13:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04840; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:11:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:11:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.174.121.53] From: "Patrick Bailey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Jamman click Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 13:10:27 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Apr 2001 20:10:28.0024 (UTC) FILETIME=[751F3B80:01C0BE0C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6196 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hmmm, not really, I recorded an empty loop midi-synced to my PC, and began overdubbing ebow sustained notes(about 5 or 6 passes), turned off the overdub function, low and behold, a nice simple sustained pad with a big pop right on each 'one'. ^~kkAAkk~^aaaaAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaa^~kkAAkk~^aaaaAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaa^~kkkAAkk~^aaaaAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaa^~kkkAAkk~^aaaaAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaa >From: rich >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Jamman click >Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:46:57 -0700 > >or, you can have the jammie slaved to an external signal, record the >loop length without any input, then essentially overdub onto the >existing loop length. this avoids that click problem. > >rich > > >>might be bad midi cables, is this a possibility? >> >>Could be because you're syncing the JamMan to a MIDI signal. >>You'll get this problem unless you use the Jamman >>as the source of the MIDI timecode. >>Reason is that MIDI isn't accurate enough for >>audio. The ends of the loop won't quite meet up. >> >> >>either that or make sure you don't play near the end of the loop. >> >>andy butler _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 16:22:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05206; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:21:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:21:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001f01c0be0d$db9dfb70$4b0218ac@jnpr.net> From: "Jonathan El-Bizri" To: References: <01040319570500.10336@localhost.localdomain> Subject: Re: Sound cards (core2) and Rant Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 13:20:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6197 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > > On a related note... Am I the only one that thinks 4 ins and 8 outs is > backwards? 8 outs gives you send buses for outboard gear. (Incidentally, this involves a manglier A/D conversion than the resample on a Soundblaster, but again, you probably won't hear it, especially if you just do a wet out) I beleive that playback is also less intensive than recording, and D/A converters are cheaper to create than A/D which is why so many early sound cards threw tons of outs at you but few ins. Just speculation though. I'm working on multiple ins, for my looping gear, and to record dry as well as wet ones at one time (for processing after the fact). I could easily eat up 8 separate inputs for my chapman stick without patching in any of my studio gear, or without being greedy. bIz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 16:24:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05268; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:22:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:22:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 13:18:52 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Loopers Delight Web Radio In-reply-to: <3ACC7BDD.CE94341F@club-internet.fr> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <3ACC7BDD.CE94341F@club-internet.fr> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6198 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'm off to New Zealand for two weeks and won't be doing anything myself with the Loopers Delight radio station on Live365. However, several other list members have expressed interest in uploading material and collectively managing the station. If you have any interest in participating in this, just speak up and presumably the social dynamic take care of the rest. As far as I'm personally concerned, the present state of this endeavor is one of benevolent and inclusive anarchy. Other forms of organization may evolve, but as one of the Founders of the station I say, "Let the games begin!" -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD zvonar@zvonar.com (818) 788-2202 voice zvonar@LCSaudio.com (818) 788-2203 fax zvonar@well.com http://www.zvonar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 16:47:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06186; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:44:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:44:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Subject: RE: looping mechanisms To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Curtis P Seiss" Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:13:53 -0400 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on inetmail1/TWP(Release 5.0.6a |January 17, 2001) at 04/05/2001 04:17:44 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id QAA06105 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6199 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com what material would best synthesize a human finger.   ive tried erasers, all sorts of plastic, but nothing seems to be 'gentle' enough... how about a big Were #1 foam finger. Talk about a stage show! tq i think i'll try the leather idea first, but if that doest work..... :) -curt Todd Quincy on 04/05/2001 04:06:24 PM Please respond to Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: Subject: RE: looping mechanisms what material would best synthesize a human finger.   ive tried erasers, all sorts of plastic, but nothing seems to be 'gentle' enough... how about a big Were #1 foam finger. Talk about a stage show! tq lindsay@pavestone.com on 04/05/2001 11:48:49 AM Please respond to Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To:   Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: Subject:  Re: question on bowing, looping mechanisms We're not going to start talking about Tibetan Bowls again, are we? I don't know if I could stand another oscilloscope-laden dispute over fundamentals and the harmonic properties of a bell-shaped instrument. Even though I think I fomented a great deal of the furor.                     "Curtis P                     Seiss"               To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com                                 Subject:     Re: question on bowing, looping                                          mechanisms                     04/05/01                     10:34 AM                     Please                     respond to                     Loopers-Delig                     ht clever!     this thread will ultimatley lead back to looping... i wanted to share this idea : my wife visualizes a "turn-table hurdy-gurdy" in which a chrystal coblet is placed on the platter of a turn-table and an arm is constructed above the glass to "bow" the rim as it rotates to produce that old, familiar yet mysteriously beatiful tone.  its seems like a great idea, so... whats the problem?     ususally when creating those wonderfull  wine glass drones, on would apply just a bit of vinager on the finger to get the perfect friction for coaxing out the harmonics- however, its not so easy to reproduce the delicate touch required with crude crunstruction technique and lack of materials to experiment with.  has anyone tried to build something similar to this?  i think this would make a great stage piece for our unusual brand of music (loops loops!)  but the most important final element would be the "finger" part of the mechanism. any ideas on what we could try? -curt (hoping this is of the slightest interest) Hedewa7@aol.com on 04/04/2001 10:55:16 PM Please respond to Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To:   Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: Subject:  Re: question on bowing >rich wrote: >> paul, >> can you be a bit more specific about the ebow on the hammered >> dulcimer?  Where abouts do you hold it in relation to the bridge(s)? >> can you use it on all of the registers?  interesting >> application...never thought of doing that one...till tonight, that >> is.  thanks. well, i thunk that the subject was bowing-with-a-bow, but: since it turned into e-bowing: i have a kikuyae ---(chrysanthemum harp)--- which is a japanese folk-instrument, inna dulcimer-stylie. i built a lil 'fan' w/a brushless motor ---(that i got from radio shack/tandy)--- which is mounted above the strings. when the motor is turned on, the soft blades of the fan brush the strings into activity: kinda like the old 'gizmotron', but simpler: homemade bowing: DIY: great for looping..... best, splattercell / dt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 16:58:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06532; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:57:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:57:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 13:57:41 -0700 From: Doug Lawrence Subject: RE: looping mechanisms In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <000201c0be13$0ea711a0$0382c83f@kinesys12> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6200 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >> what material would best synthesize a human finger? << you might want to ask the guys at Real Doll! :-0 They seemed to have found a silicon compound that replicates human skin ... maybe you can order a hand from them! http://www.realdoll.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 17:25:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA08547; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:23:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:23:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4AC8@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: looping mechanisms Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:22:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id RAA08335 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6201 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com sheepskin may do the job rather than latex, dt -- what material would best synthesize a human finger.   ive tried erasers, all sorts of plastic, but nothing seems to be 'gentle' enough... i think i'll try the leather idea first, but if that doest work..... :) -curt Todd Quincy on 04/05/2001 04:06:24 PM Please respond to Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: Subject: RE: looping mechanisms what material would best synthesize a human finger.   ive tried erasers, all sorts of plastic, but nothing seems to be 'gentle' enough... how about a big Were #1 foam finger. Talk about a stage show! tq lindsay@pavestone.com on 04/05/2001 11:48:49 AM Please respond to Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To:   Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: Subject:  Re: question on bowing, looping mechanisms We're not going to start talking about Tibetan Bowls again, are we? I don't know if I could stand another oscilloscope-laden dispute over fundamentals and the harmonic properties of a bell-shaped instrument. Even though I think I fomented a great deal of the furor.                     "Curtis P                     Seiss"               To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com                                 Subject:     Re: question on bowing, looping                                          mechanisms                     04/05/01                     10:34 AM                     Please                     respond to                     Loopers-Delig                     ht clever!     this thread will ultimatley lead back to looping... i wanted to share this idea : my wife visualizes a "turn-table hurdy-gurdy" in which a chrystal coblet is placed on the platter of a turn-table and an arm is constructed above the glass to "bow" the rim as it rotates to produce that old, familiar yet mysteriously beatiful tone.  its seems like a great idea, so... whats the problem?     ususally when creating those wonderfull  wine glass drones, on would apply just a bit of vinager on the finger to get the perfect friction for coaxing out the harmonics- however, its not so easy to reproduce the delicate touch required with crude crunstruction technique and lack of materials to experiment with.  has anyone tried to build something similar to this?  i think this would make a great stage piece for our unusual brand of music (loops loops!)  but the most important final element would be the "finger" part of the mechanism. any ideas on what we could try? -curt (hoping this is of the slightest interest) Hedewa7@aol.com on 04/04/2001 10:55:16 PM Please respond to Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To:   Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com cc: Subject:  Re: question on bowing >rich wrote: >> paul, >> can you be a bit more specific about the ebow on the hammered >> dulcimer?  Where abouts do you hold it in relation to the bridge(s)? >> can you use it on all of the registers?  interesting >> application...never thought of doing that one...till tonight, that >> is.  thanks. well, i thunk that the subject was bowing-with-a-bow, but: since it turned into e-bowing: i have a kikuyae ---(chrysanthemum harp)--- which is a japanese folk-instrument, inna dulcimer-stylie. i built a lil 'fan' w/a brushless motor ---(that i got from radio shack/tandy)--- which is mounted above the strings. when the motor is turned on, the soft blades of the fan brush the strings into activity: kinda like the old 'gizmotron', but simpler: homemade bowing: DIY: great for looping..... best, splattercell / dt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 17:45:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA09056; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:43:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:43:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: paulreisler@earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:22:05 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, rich From: Paul Reisler Subject: Re: question on bowing Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6202 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com rich-- more on the ebow hammered dulcimer thing. you hold the ebow at an angle so that the string guide ridge on the bottom of the ebow that's closest to you rests on the closest string of the pair of strrings (my hammered dulcimer has 2 strings per course). you have to hold it at an angle so that the ebow is as close as possible to the other string of the pair without touching it. this takes quite a while to get the hang of it. if you aren't close enough, it's hard to get it vibrating. if you are too close, you get a buzz (which i sometimes uses for emotional effect). on the shorter strings I lightly pluck the string with my pinky to get it vibrating and then the ebow takes over. on the longer strings i can get it going with the ebow without the pluck, on the shorter ones, the pluck helps. I start fairly close to the bridge and find I can control volume and envelope by moving further from the bridge as the string is vibrating. if you start further from the bridge, you're more likely to get the buzz. once the string is vibrating, little adjustments in angle and placement yeild a good bit of control over the sound. Since i often finer pick the strings with my right hand while playing a melody with the ebow with my left, I generally use the left side of the treble bridge for the ebow. it will work on any of the strings and i have used it with my right hand while using a hammer in the left. it's one of the most emotional sounds i've been able to make on any instrument. i cried when i first discovered it because it was so emotional sounding. also quite ethereal, other wordly and somewhat electronic sounding. i enjoy making sounds with acoustic instruments that are hard to figure out and that sound electronic. it leaves everyone looking around to see where it's coming from. I remember in the mid 80's I brought Glen Velez in to do some harmonic singing on a recording one of our songs, my recording engineer was looking all over the studio, trying to figure out where the sound was coming from. Something very satisfying about getting new sounds from acoustic sources. One of my neighbors is the new conductor of the New York Philharmonic. another neighbor who is also a composer was going on and on to Maazel about how he could make all these sounds on his computer indicating he could make sounds the orchestra couldn't. Maazel looked right at the guy and said "Give me a great orchestra and I can make any sound. period. That stuck with me. I have also fooled with the bowed psaltery that Rick mentioned. I made some of them in the early 80's for a woman in my band, trapezoid, who played it. it's on a number of our albums from the 80's. very haunting and somewhat irritating. used to call it the "bowed assaultry." all of these sounds are great with looping, creating interesting textures without having to resort to the easy way--the dreaded synth. best paul reisler > >can you be a bit more specific about the ebow on the hammered >dulcimer? Where abouts do you hold it in relation to the bridge(s)? >can you use it on all of the registers? interesting >application...never thought of doing that one...till tonight, that >is. thanks. > >rich. > >>i use an ebow on hammered dulcimer with loops. it's quite an eerie effect. >>i've used it on a few album recordings--Beth Nielsen-Chapman's Deeper Still >>(not out yet) and a couple from my band, Trapezoid, "Remembered Ways" and >>"Long Time Down this Road." since these are recordings and not live i >>don't loop them. i use the ebow quite a bit in loops in live shows. i >>also use the ebow on acoustic midi guitar which can be pretty wild >>depending on the midi patch. regualr bow would be problematic on both >>instruments. ebow works by creating a magnetic field that keeps the string >>vibrating. >>paul reisler Paul Reisler Trapezoid/Ki Theatre PO Box 38 Washington, VA 22747 540.987.3164 540.987.3166 fax zoid@pobox.com www.kitheatre.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 18:27:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA11295; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 18:25:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 18:25:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010405182331.007e6100@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 18:23:31 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: question on bowing, looping mechanisms In-Reply-To: <004f01c0bdf6$76403de0$6b44230a@mlameyer02> References: <89.4c256d8.27fdfd11@aol.com> <006c01c0bdf5$1c250800$36866fd4@dolly> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <9EnKiC.A.lvC.JDPz6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6203 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Nope, that was a hurdy-gurdy Page was playing in the 'need Visine' scene. At 01:32 PM 4/5/01 -0400, you wrote: >I seem to think that this instrument was also the one Jimmy Page >was playing on the beach or whatever in the film The Song >Remains The Same. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 18:29:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA11508; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 18:27:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 18:27:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACCF17E.CED940F8@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 15:39:45 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: question on bowing References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6204 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Paul Reisler wrote: > ...Something very satisfying about getting new sounds from acoustic sources. i agree. over at the chain-tape collective, we just finished a compilation of all acoustically-sourced material. this was a very refreshing change from the more typical *throw-every-piece-of-electronics-into-the-signal-path* approach, and i think a few new sounds were created in the process... > One of my neighbors is the new conductor of the New York Philharmonic. > another neighbor who is also a composer was going on and on to Maazel about > how he could make all these sounds on his computer indicating he could > make sounds the orchestra couldn't. Maazel looked right at the guy and > said "Give me a great orchestra and I can make any sound. period. That > stuck with me. > > I have also fooled with the bowed psaltery that Rick mentioned. I made > some of them in the early 80's for a woman in my band, trapezoid, who > played it. it's on a number of our albums from the 80's. very haunting > and somewhat irritating. used to call it the "bowed assaultry." > > all of these sounds are great with looping, creating interesting textures > without having to resort to the easy way--the dreaded synth. > very cool thread. i'll have to try this on the zither i've got sitting at home...final thought: every *instrument* has latent creative potential (even synthesizers:-); it's up to the musician to realize them, imo. lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 19:12:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA13613; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:10:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:10:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACCFB34.2FA41100@zerocrossing.net> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 16:09:39 -0700 X-Sybari-Trust: 3263b029 050014e1 00000000 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: question on bowing References: <3ACCF17E.CED940F8@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6205 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'm not sure if this would help anyone, but I saw a street performer in Berkeley CA a few weeks ago and he was playing a hammer dulcimer. However, he seemed to have a few special hammers that had a crescent shaped end that must have been coated with rosin or the equivalent. With this setup, he was able to get both hammered and bowed sounds. It was VERY cool. I could not help but think of the possibilities of this on electric guitar. I do love my ebow, though. Especially now that it has a blue LED! Marklar From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 19:25:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA14212; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:24:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:24:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACCFE8E.7C281F8E@zerocrossing.net> Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 16:23:58 -0700 X-Sybari-Trust: f5d5b0e4 050014e1 00000000 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers Delight Web Radio References: <3ACC7BDD.CE94341F@club-internet.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0rACuD.A.KbD.R6Pz6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6206 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'd be into contributing material, or possibly running it, but I'm not sure what is involved. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 19:38:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA14600; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:36:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:36:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <3e.9e4c78e.27fe5b2f@aol.com> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:35:11 EDT Subject: OT: Re: question on bowing To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6207 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com zoid@pobox.com writes: >the dreaded synth. i, for one, do *not* dread the synth, at all! best, splattercell / dt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 19:44:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA14904; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:42:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:42:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:41:02 EDT Subject: Re: question on bowing To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6208 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com further amplification on this: zoid@pobox.com writes: >all of these sounds are great with looping, creating interesting textures >without having to resort to the easy way--the dreaded synth. indeed, i dread no instrument -electric, electronic, acoustic, mechanical, imaginary, sidereal, whatever- i relish the idea of mutzing around w/all of 'em: yup. best, splattercell / dt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 20:24:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA16833; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 20:23:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 20:23:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000a01c0be2e$f17eb580$0300a8c0@mlameyer02> From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: References: Subject: OT: question on bowing Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 20:17:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6209 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Reiteration of further amplification: Right on. If I like the way it moves the air around, it's good enough to hand to a pack of wack cats in Japan set on streaming the LD melting pot to the world!!! .... Ok, I tried ... 8^P Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 7:41 PM Subject: Re: question on bowing > further amplification on this: > > zoid@pobox.com writes: > >all of these sounds are great with looping, creating interesting textures > >without having to resort to the easy way--the dreaded synth. > indeed, i dread no instrument -electric, electronic, acoustic, mechanical, > imaginary, sidereal, whatever- i relish the idea of mutzing around w/all of > 'em: > yup. > best, > splattercell / dt > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 21:58:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA19718; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:56:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:56:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010405190235.01ba94c0@mail.well.com> X-Sender: dog@mail.well.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 19:02:35 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: dan mcmullen Subject: Re: Jamman click In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6210 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com fwiw, i can confirm that the jamman doesn't seem to handle syncing to an external midi clock very well when looping continuous, sustained sounds. it generates periodic clicks when doing so, even though the initial loop length has been determined by the same clock. sounds like it is doing an immediate jump to the beginning of the loop w/ no crossfading in order to follow the midi clock. remove the clock from the jamman midi in, and the clicks go away. doesn't always happen when recording a loop into the jamman, & happens more consistently w/ some odd ratios of midi quarter notes per loop time vs the source looper (an edp). might have something to do w/ the stability of the external clock, though it happens even when directly hooking an edp midi out to the jamman midi in. tried different midi cables w/ no difference, so i don't think it's a bad cable for me. doesn't happen if i fade the continuous sound in/out & leave silence at the beginning of the loop. anyone not seeing this behavior when synced externally? any way to get it to work better other than to avoid sustaining sounds through the loop start point? thanks, dan ps- to be fair, the edp also sometimes generates periodic clicks when synced externally w/ a sustaining tone. the clicks are less frequent, quieter & duller sounding, but are there to some degree. ___ dan mcmullen, ca, usa don't worry - pay attention mailto:dog@well.com 707-485-0220 pgp fingerprint = 1C70 8D81 6B94 93A9 F2D8 9609 2122 BF70 8619 EDAF From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 22:37:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA21657; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:35:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:35:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 22:35:31 -0400 Subject: Re: DL4 potentiometer and pedal comments From: David Myers To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6211 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Haven't been following this thread, but I'll put in my .02 and say that you must certainly have here a linear taper 20K pot, probably a dual. No problem using a much easier to find 25K. That's all from Mensa Central. Now if I were psychic, I'd tell you what the "3" means ("made in the third world"?)... DLM on 4/5/01 12:04 PM, rich at rich@nuvisionsca.com wrote: > hi all, > > here's the info for the pot inside the expression pedal from Line666. > just four little screws...that wasn't so bad... > > a part number: > > 6G > 3B20KX2 > > so, you electrogizmopartsandsolder guys should be able to go from > there, yes? that's the only info on the pot. hope this helps. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 22:44:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA22123; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:42:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:42:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 22:42:13 -0400 Subject: Re: looping mechanisms From: David Myers To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4AC8@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id WAA22024 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6212 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Forget about "synthesis"; here in NYC, it probably wouldn't be difficult to procure an actual human finger for whatever purpose. Not that I'm proposing anything... DLM > what material would best synthesize a human finger.   ive > tried erasers, all sorts of plastic, but nothing seems to be 'gentle' > enough... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 5 23:10:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA24012; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:08:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 23:08:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <008801c0be46$e2a312a0$ed2078d8@prelayomb> From: "Gary Lehmann" To: References: <3ACCF17E.CED940F8@earthlink.net> <3ACCFB34.2FA41100@zerocrossing.net> Subject: Bowing the Dulcimer Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 20:08:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <0jk4oB.A.52F.MMTz6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6213 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mark wrote: > I'm not sure if this would help anyone, but I saw a street performer in Berkeley > CA a few weeks ago and he was playing a hammer dulcimer. However, he seemed to > have a few special hammers that had a crescent shaped end that must have been > coated with rosin or the equivalent. With this setup, he was able to get both > hammered and bowed sounds. It was VERY cool. I saw a fellow at the NAMM show doing this--Michael Masley. He's in a group with Michael Manring, and does a lot of solo stuff. Think it was him? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 6 02:11:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA30384; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 02:08:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 02:08:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00b701c0be5f$b4026400$098e6fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: Subject: Re: question on bowing Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 07:05:54 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6214 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Your friends have both made the classic mistake of closing one door after opening another. Leave as many doors open as possible, in fact try to ignore these perceived barriers altogether. It seems to be a human trait that, having discovered something, (a musical genre - even a band) people want to dismiss other approaches/styles. I see it in my students all the time. To your friend who reckons he can make any sound with an orchestra I say "filter sweep", (though I love the orchestra). > Something very satisfying about getting new sounds from acoustic sources. > One of my neighbors is the new conductor of the New York Philharmonic. > another neighbor who is also a composer was going on and on to Maazel about > how he could make all these sounds on his computer indicating he could > make sounds the orchestra couldn't. Maazel looked right at the guy and > said "Give me a great orchestra and I can make any sound. period. That > stuck with me From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 6 04:54:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA02383; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 04:50:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 04:50:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00b201c0be77$27c85540$f189e3a5@looppool> From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: References: <200104052145.RAA09242@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: OT: Synthesizing a human finger Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 01:54:13 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6215 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com As a hand percussion (amonst other things), I've thought a lot about this one and have come to this understanding: A finger is the combination of a smooth, soft and pliable covering (skin) with dense, yet lightweight structure underneath it (the bone). When I describe the three basic conga strokes to beginning students I have them imagine that there hands are like various mallets: 1) the tips of their fingers (which produce slapping technique on conga) are like a stick with a thin leather covering, 2) The first pad (or pad nearest to the hand) where we get our open tones is like a regular felt covered mallet ( a softer covering but more mass beneath it) 3) The palm of the hand (where bass tones are produced on a conga) is like a large gong mallet. The covering is extraordinariy soft but there is great weight and density behind it. Consequently, when you try to design a 'human finger-eque' implement, you have to think not only of the texture of the surface, but also of the weight and density underneath it. I believe that Regal Tip markets a leather covered stick that is there best attempt at simulating a hand (this, so that trapset drummers can approximate the sound of a hand hitting a conga with stick technique). You might try this out. Also, super balls are kind of a perfect combination between a human finger and a violin bow and can be used to 'bow' gongs, cymbals, drum heads, the wooden keys on tongue drums, and anything where. Failing this, one can always turn to cadavers ;-) Good luck and let me know if you stumble on anything really cool and useful. Yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 6 05:02:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA03742; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 04:59:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 04:59:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00eb01c0be78$4d821ea0$f189e3a5@looppool> From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: References: <200104051906.PAA01587@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: OT: a request for good thoughts Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 02:02:26 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6216 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I had a lot of really beautiful responses for my request for prayers and healing thoughts for my fathers surgery. I really feel like I am part of a really special creative and caring community and want to thank everybody for their warmth and compassion!!! Dad's surgery was a success, I'm happy to say. He'll have a long convalescence, but he (and is indomitable spirit) is still with us. Thanks so much again, guys and gals. Yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 6 05:08:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA04024; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 05:05:43 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 05:05:43 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000801c0be80$d3856540$ecf32b18@bawk1.on.wave.home.com> From: "GARTH BOURNE" To: References: <200104052145.RAA09242@hemlock.violacea.com> <00b201c0be77$27c85540$f189e3a5@looppool> Subject: Re: Synthesizing a human finger Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 05:03:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "GARTH BOURNE" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6217 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com UNSUBSCRIBE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 3:54 AM Subject: OT: Synthesizing a human finger > As a hand percussion (amonst other things), I've thought a lot about this > one and have come to this understanding: > > A finger is the combination of a smooth, soft and pliable covering (skin) > with dense, yet lightweight structure underneath it (the bone). > > When I describe the three basic conga strokes to beginning students I have > them imagine that there hands are like various mallets: > > 1) the tips of their fingers (which produce slapping technique on conga) > are like a stick with a thin leather covering, > > 2) The first pad (or pad nearest to the hand) where we get our open tones > is like a regular felt covered mallet ( a softer covering but more mass > beneath it) > > 3) The palm of the hand (where bass tones are produced on a conga) is like > a large gong mallet. The covering is extraordinariy soft but there is > great weight and density behind it. > > Consequently, when you try to design a 'human finger-eque' implement, you > have to think not only of the texture of the surface, but also of the weight > and density underneath it. > > I believe that Regal Tip markets a leather covered stick that is there best > attempt at simulating a hand (this, so that trapset drummers can > approximate the sound of a hand hitting a conga with stick technique). You > might try this out. > > Also, super balls are kind of a perfect combination between a human finger > and a violin bow and can be used to 'bow' gongs, cymbals, > drum heads, the wooden keys on tongue drums, and anything where. > > Failing this, one can always turn to cadavers ;-) > > Good luck and let me know if you stumble on anything really cool and useful. > Yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool) > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 6 05:08:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA04061; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 05:05:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 05:05:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000f01c0be80$e4715da0$ecf32b18@bawk1.on.wave.home.com> From: "GARTH BOURNE" To: References: <00b701c0be5f$b4026400$098e6fd4@dolly> Subject: Re: question on bowing Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 05:03:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "GARTH BOURNE" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6218 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com UNSUBSCRIBE ----- Original Message ----- From: "whiteoakstudios" To: Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 1:05 AM Subject: Re: question on bowing > Your friends have both made the classic mistake of closing one door after > opening another. > Leave as many doors open as possible, in fact try to ignore these > perceived barriers altogether. It seems to be a human trait that, having > discovered something, (a musical genre - even a band) people want to dismiss > other approaches/styles. I see it in my students all the time. > To your friend who reckons he can make any sound with an orchestra I say > "filter sweep", (though I love the orchestra). > > > Something very satisfying about getting new sounds from acoustic sources. > > One of my neighbors is the new conductor of the New York Philharmonic. > > another neighbor who is also a composer was going on and on to Maazel > about > > how he could make all these sounds on his computer indicating he could > > make sounds the orchestra couldn't. Maazel looked right at the guy and > > said "Give me a great orchestra and I can make any sound. period. That > > stuck with me > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 6 05:09:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA04281; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 05:06:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 05:06:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001801c0be80$f2bf79a0$ecf32b18@bawk1.on.wave.home.com> From: "GARTH BOURNE" To: References: <000a01c0be2e$f17eb580$0300a8c0@mlameyer02> Subject: Re: question on bowing Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 05:04:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "GARTH BOURNE" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6219 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com UNSCRIBE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 7:17 PM Subject: OT: question on bowing > Reiteration of further amplification: > > Right on. > > If I like the way it moves the air around, it's good enough to > hand to a pack of wack cats in Japan set on streaming the LD > melting pot to the world!!! .... > > Ok, I tried ... 8^P > > Mike > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 7:41 PM > Subject: Re: question on bowing > > > > further amplification on this: > > > > zoid@pobox.com writes: > > >all of these sounds are great with looping, creating > interesting textures > > >without having to resort to the easy way--the dreaded synth. > > indeed, i dread no instrument -electric, electronic, acoustic, > mechanical, > > imaginary, sidereal, whatever- i relish the idea of mutzing > around w/all of > > 'em: > > yup. > > best, > > splattercell / dt > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 6 05:09:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA04462; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 05:07:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 05:07:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001f01c0be81$01c7bde0$ecf32b18@bawk1.on.wave.home.com> From: "GARTH BOURNE" To: References: <200104051906.PAA01587@hemlock.violacea.com> <00eb01c0be78$4d821ea0$f189e3a5@looppool> Subject: Re: OT: a request for good thoughts Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 05:04:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 Disposition-Notification-To: "GARTH BOURNE" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6220 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com UNSCRIBE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 4:02 AM Subject: Re: OT: a request for good thoughts > I had a lot of really beautiful responses for my request for prayers and > healing thoughts for my fathers surgery. > > I really feel like I am part of a really special creative and caring > community and want to thank everybody for their warmth and compassion!!! > > Dad's surgery was a success, I'm happy to say. He'll have a long > convalescence, but he (and is indomitable spirit) is still with us. > > Thanks so much again, guys and gals. Yours, Rick Walker > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 6 08:18:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA10879; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 08:15:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 08:15:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 08:15:30 -0400 Subject: Undo function on EDP From: Steve Sandberg To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200104052145.RAA09243@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3069389730_6605781_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6221 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3069389730_6605781_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit I got an EDP a few weeks ago and have been really enjoying getting into it -- But the undo function seems inconsistent -- sometimes it seems like I have to press it a few times for it to do anything (yes, I know I have to give a long press for it to erase the last pass). Also, I the manual says I should be able to end overdub mode with undo -- but my unit won't do that. When I'm in overdub, the undo light doesn't even go on. Anyone have any experience with this? Thanks. --MS_Mac_OE_3069389730_6605781_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Undo function on EDP I got an EDP a few weeks ago and have been really enjoying g= etting into it --
But the undo function seems inconsistent -- sometimes it seems like I have = to press it a few times for it to do anything (yes, I know I have to give a = long press for it to erase the last pass).
Also, I the manual says I should be able to end overdub mode with undo -- b= ut my unit won't do that.  When I'm in overdub, the undo light doesn't = even go on.
Anyone have any experience with this?
Thanks. --MS_Mac_OE_3069389730_6605781_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 6 09:04:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA12770; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 08:59:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 08:59:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010406125840.60658.qmail@web9610.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 05:58:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Dumeril Seven Subject: Re: DL4 potentiometer and pedal comments To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6222 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yep, that's what it seems like to me also based on the usual serial numbering schemes. But its strange because the Line 6 support site says the pot is a 10K linear. Does anyone out there have a meter to hook up to it? D7 --- David Myers wrote: > Haven't been following this thread, but I'll put in my .02 and say that you > must certainly have here a linear taper 20K pot, probably a dual. No > problem using a much easier to find 25K. That's all from Mensa Central. > Now if I were psychic, I'd tell you what the "3" means ("made in the third > world"?)... > > DLM > > on 4/5/01 12:04 PM, rich at rich@nuvisionsca.com wrote: > > > hi all, > > > > here's the info for the pot inside the expression pedal from Line666. > > just four little screws...that wasn't so bad... > > > > a part number: > > > > 6G > > 3B20KX2 > > > > so, you electrogizmopartsandsolder guys should be able to go from > > there, yes? that's the only info on the pot. hope this helps. > ===== Dumeril7 dumeril7@SPAMBEGONEyahoo.com Anti-spam measures in place -- remove "SPAMBEGONE" from my e-mail address if you want to use it.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 6 11:28:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA17885; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:25:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:25:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: RA336@aol.com Message-ID: <60.d1f10f6.27ff3944@aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:22:44 EDT Subject: ot: gig spam To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows sub 114 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6223 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i'll be providing groove & ambient constructs via ACID behind avante/noise violinist Ritsu Katsumata at Republica just off the Cornell University Campus (for anyone in Ithaca ny) about 9;30 pm friday the 6th april. see: www.ritsu.com/republica2.htm best; Robby Aceto From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 6 11:56:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18635; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:52:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:52:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: lindsay@pavestone.com Subject: Re: ot: gig spam To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2c February 2, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:46:07 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on dell.pavestone.com/Pavestone(Release 5.0.4a |July 24, 2000) at 04/06/2001 10:46:37 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6224 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Just wondering--how do you (or anyone else) use ACID live? Seems like it would be a pretty "prepared audio" piece. How much actual performance are you capable of? I could see using multiple outs into a mixer and then play the mixer as an instrument--the mutes, faders, aux sends, pans, FXs, etc. What's your set up and your method? L RA336@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com 04/06/01 cc: 10:22 AM Subject: ot: gig spam Please respond to Loopers-Delig ht i'll be providing groove & ambient constructs via ACID behind avante/noise violinist Ritsu Katsumata at Republica just off the Cornell University Campus (for anyone in Ithaca ny) about 9;30 pm friday the 6th april. see: www.ritsu.com/republica2.htm best; Robby Aceto From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 6 14:09:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA24660; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:07:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:07:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACE0541.6F34705D@zerocrossing.net> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:04:50 -0700 X-Sybari-Trust: 8d61916d 050014e1 00000000 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Bowing the Dulcimer References: <3ACCF17E.CED940F8@earthlink.net> <3ACCFB34.2FA41100@zerocrossing.net> <008801c0be46$e2a312a0$ed2078d8@prelayomb> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6225 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com quite possible, but I honestly don't know. Mark Gary Lehmann wrote: > Mark wrote: > > > I'm not sure if this would help anyone, but I saw a street performer in > Berkeley > > CA a few weeks ago and he was playing a hammer dulcimer. However, he > seemed to > > have a few special hammers that had a crescent shaped end that must have > been > > coated with rosin or the equivalent. With this setup, he was able to get > both > > hammered and bowed sounds. It was VERY cool. > > I saw a fellow at the NAMM show doing this--Michael Masley. He's in a group > with Michael Manring, and does a lot of solo stuff. Think it was him? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 6 14:34:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25288; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:31:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:31:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: paulreisler@earthlink.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <00b701c0be5f$b4026400$098e6fd4@dolly> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:31:09 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Paul Reisler Subject: Re: question on bowing Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6226 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com looper friends-- sorry i was being facitious about the "dreaded" synth. my acoustic guitar is midified with the axon100-sb and rmc pickups and i love it. i suppose it's part of my own wierdness that i enjoy watching people look around quizzically when i play a sitar/tambura sound with acoustic guitar or create my own standing ovation with an applause patch. sure, i could do it on a keyboard, but i like the disconnect when things aren't as expected and also the expressiveness of guitar. somehow in breaking expectations people tend to listen more since they don't already know what's happening. you guys keep keeping me honest paul reisler >Your friends have both made the classic mistake of closing one door after >opening another. >Leave as many doors open as possible, in fact try to ignore these >perceived barriers altogether. It seems to be a human trait that, having >discovered something, (a musical genre - even a band) people want to dismiss >other approaches/styles. I see it in my students all the time. >To your friend who reckons he can make any sound with an orchestra I say >"filter sweep", (though I love the orchestra). > >> Something very satisfying about getting new sounds from acoustic sources. >> One of my neighbors is the new conductor of the New York Philharmonic. >> another neighbor who is also a composer was going on and on to Maazel >about >> how he could make all these sounds on his computer indicating he could >> make sounds the orchestra couldn't. Maazel looked right at the guy and >> said "Give me a great orchestra and I can make any sound. period. That >> stuck with me Paul Reisler Trapezoid/Ki Theatre PO Box 38 Washington, VA 22747 540.987.3164 540.987.3166 fax zoid@pobox.com www.kitheatre.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 6 14:37:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA25564; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:35:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:35:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <08b501c0bec8$5e6fdd60$cdad5cd1@-> To: From: "Bill Fox" Subject: EMUSIC Playlist #211 Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 14:35:02 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6227 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com [ Best viewed with a fixed spacing font. ] EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. Show #211 April 5, 2001. RECAP: On this show, I preempted all four hours of World Radio Network and one hour of NPR's Morning Edition in order to present the world premier of the complete playing of Robert Rich's new seven-hour DVD, Somnium. An autographed copy of Somnium was given away during Morning Edition as a thank you gift for a pledge of $150. The host survived without being thrown off the island, er, air. No DVD players were harmed in the making of this presentation. Robert Rich http://wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/2001/focus01.html#apr_rr PLAYLIST: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:04 pm Robert Rich Somnium Somnium (Hypnos) 6:00 am NEXT SHOW: On the next EMUSIC, I'll begin a month-long focus on James Johnson, a Chicago area ambienteer extraordinaire. James has several releases on labels like Hypnos and his own Zero Music and will headline at the next Gathering in Philadelphia. I will also play music by Baird Hersey who will bring his group Prana to the next Gathering. Prana is an eight member a capella group that employ overtone singing methods. James Johnson http://wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/2001/focus01.html#apr The Gathering http://wdiyfm.org/emusic/events.html Bill billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html ============================================================================ Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox *** To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list:, send email to: emusic-wdiy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com *** From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 6 17:51:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA00467; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:49:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:49:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.148.1.172] From: "Peter Underwood" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: question on bowing Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 14:48:09 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Apr 2001 21:48:09.0495 (UTC) FILETIME=[453E7A70:01C0BEE3] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6228 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >From: Paul Reisler > >looper friends-- >sorry i was being facitious about the "dreaded" synth. my acoustic guitar >is midified with the axon100-sb and rmc pickups and i love it. i suppose >it's part of my own wierdness that i enjoy watching people look around >quizzically when i play a sitar/tambura sound with acoustic guitar or >create my own standing ovation with an applause patch. Just to keep you even more honest, how do you know its a "standing" ovation. Does applause sound any different if they are sitting? :) I'm telling you, ya gotta watch those adjectives with this group. >sure, i could do it >on a keyboard, but i like the disconnect when things aren't as expected and >also the expressiveness of guitar. somehow in breaking expectations people >tend to listen more since they don't already know what's happening. > >you guys keep keeping me honest >paul reisler > > >Your friends have both made the classic mistake of closing one door >after > >opening another. > >Leave as many doors open as possible, in fact try to ignore these > >perceived barriers altogether. It seems to be a human trait that, having > >discovered something, (a musical genre - even a band) people want to >dismiss > >other approaches/styles. I see it in my students all the time. > >To your friend who reckons he can make any sound with an orchestra I say > >"filter sweep", (though I love the orchestra). > > > >> Something very satisfying about getting new sounds from acoustic >sources. > >> One of my neighbors is the new conductor of the New York Philharmonic. > >> another neighbor who is also a composer was going on and on to Maazel > >about > >> how he could make all these sounds on his computer indicating he could > >> make sounds the orchestra couldn't. Maazel looked right at the guy and > >> said "Give me a great orchestra and I can make any sound. period. That > >> stuck with me > > >Paul Reisler >Trapezoid/Ki Theatre >PO Box 38 >Washington, VA 22747 >540.987.3164 >540.987.3166 fax >zoid@pobox.com >www.kitheatre.com > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 6 18:00:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA02060; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:59:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 17:59:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACE3C17.FE5649DA@zerocrossing.net> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 14:58:38 -0700 X-Sybari-Trust: 48780e79 050014e1 00000000 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: question on bowing References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6229 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Does applause sound any different if they are sitting? :) > Of course it does. Being farther from the floor will undoubtly cause differences in reverb reflections, silly. Less so on a carpeted floor with upholstered chairs. Mr. Wiseass From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 6 18:25:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA02788; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:23:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:23:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Sender: simran@phys-ha2mpkb-16.Eng.Sun.COM Message-ID: <3ACE41A8.E625AD5B@Sun.COM> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 15:22:33 -0700 From: Simran gleason Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: question on standing ovations Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2JzYOC.A.jp.vGkz6@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6230 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Peter sez: > > Just to keep you even more honest, how do you know its a "standing" ovation. > Does applause sound any different if they are sitting? :) > > I'm telling you, ya gotta watch those adjectives with this group. > To which Mark retorts: > >Of course it does. Being farther from the floor will undoubtly cause >differences in reverb reflections, silly. Less so on a carpeted floor with >upholstered chairs. well, to be even more pendantic*, I feel obligationalized to point out that "standing ovation" refers directly to the sound quality of the ovation, rather than the condition of the applauditors. This depends, of course, elaborately on the resonant frequency of the room, together with the particular configuralation of sound-bouncing ("echoleptic"?) objects present. An ovation is considerated "standing" when the accumulated crescendo of manual percussive echoes intersects a frequency node in the room and thus creates a standing wave. These nodes are more often found when the sound source originates approximately 40 inches above the floor, and therefore are highly correlated with incidences of audience entities having actually lumbered to their feet placing them in a standing position. Simran ps: *"pendantic," from my American Standard Dictionary of Malapropisms, is the ictological variant of pendant, meaning of or pertaining to little hangie things that swings back and forth, back and forth. Sorry for any confusion. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 6 19:43:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA05748; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:41:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 19:41:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 18:36:59 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: tdream and risky biz To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <000f01c0bef2$79c65ce0$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 References: <3ACE41A8.E625AD5B@Sun.COM> X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6231 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i recently experienced a bit of morphogenic resonance i was watching the dvd of "risky business" and reading the info in the "extras" section and found this: [producer Jon Avnet about using tangerine dream for the soundtrack] "initially we were a little nervous about the language and cultural barriers," Avnet says. "But the guys loved Steve Reich's 'Music for 18 Musicians,' which we had placed on cassette in a temporary music track." "We found that musically we spoke a very similar language." and also this: The right to film on the elevated line that serves "The Loop" was rather easily obtained. The right-of-way was another matter. "At each stop, we were limited to just one or two quick shots before we had to move on," director Paul Brickman explains. "We were in the middle of a traffic pattern with real trains stacked up behind us." "To retake a shot, we had to go all the way around 'The Loop' and return to the original station. Meanwhile, the minutes were ticking by. Things got a little hairy for us, but the commuters seemed to enjoy the spectacle." this sounds a lot like a live looping improv performance. the circle's back around... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 6 23:15:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA13732; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:12:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:12:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACE8A5F.77B9@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 20:32:48 -0700 From: scott kungha drengsen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Bowing the Dulcimer References: <3ACCF17E.CED940F8@earthlink.net> <3ACCFB34.2FA41100@zerocrossing.net> <008801c0be46$e2a312a0$ed2078d8@prelayomb> <3ACE0541.6F34705D@zerocrossing.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6232 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com It was definatly Micheal Masley.Being an East Bay person I have seen and heard him for years.He invented the hammers which (I believe) have very small grooves cut into them. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 7 01:43:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA18958; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 01:41:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 01:41:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: matthias@pop.e-net.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 02:43:39 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: Undo function on EDP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6233 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >I got an EDP a few weeks ago and have been really enjoying getting into it -- >But the undo function seems inconsistent -- sometimes it seems like >I have to press it a few times for it to do anything (yes, I know I >have to give a long press for it to erase the last pass). >Also, I the manual says I should be able to end overdub mode with >undo -- but my unit won't do that. its more usefull to be able to erase a layer and continue in overdub than another method to come out of Overdub, so thats what it does. but its used to stop functions that change time in order to regain the original time. Long press makes it erase from the beginning of the last loop while short press from the present moment in the last loop. there is more on this on the site... >When I'm in overdub, the undo light doesn't even go on. just while you press it does, to show you that you are pressing, right? > -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 7 01:57:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA19674; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 01:55:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 01:55:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhUAoCgZmhOjEYASOu/y83LV9hawmFgCFAtqFMqMMkchxxr/2HdHmBkmxga6 From: reklein@webtv.net (Richard) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 00:55:05 -0500 (CDT) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Motionsound Message-ID: <25717-3ACEABB9-2081@storefull-236.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6234 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com FOR SALE-Motionsound R-3 147 rackmount stereo Leslie.Four mics, simulated lower rotor,speedswitch,AC cord,factory serviced,flightcase,manual. $650.00;trades From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 7 04:13:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA24739; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 04:09:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 04:09:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: mhamburg@mailsj-v1 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000f01c0bef2$79c65ce0$080210ac@jpalmer> References: <3ACE41A8.E625AD5B@Sun.COM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 01:07:33 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Mark Hamburg" Subject: Re: tdream and risky biz Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6235 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I think Steve Reich has complained about being ripped off by Tangerine Dream. (That being said, I own both _Music for 18 Musicians_ and _Tangram_.) Mark At 4:36 PM -0700 4/6/01, jim palmer wrote: >i recently experienced a bit of morphogenic resonance > >i was watching the dvd of "risky business" and reading the info >in the "extras" section and found this: > > [producer Jon Avnet about using tangerine dream for the soundtrack] > "initially we were a little nervous about the language and cultural >barriers," Avnet says. > "But the guys loved Steve Reich's 'Music for 18 Musicians,' which we >had placed on cassette in a temporary music track." > "We found that musically we spoke a very similar language." > > >and also this: > The right to film on the elevated line that serves "The Loop" was >rather easily obtained. > The right-of-way was another matter. > > "At each stop, we were limited to just one or two quick shots before >we had to move on," > director Paul Brickman explains. > "We were in the middle of a traffic pattern with real trains stacked >up behind us." > > "To retake a shot, we had to go all the way around 'The Loop' and >return to the original station. > Meanwhile, the minutes were ticking by. Things got a little hairy for >us, but the > commuters seemed to enjoy the spectacle." > >this sounds a lot like a live looping improv performance. >the circle's back around... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 7 06:57:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA28717; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 06:55:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 06:55:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <72.95bea2f.28004bf1@aol.com> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 06:54:41 EDT Subject: Re: JamMan Click To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_72.95bea2f.28004bf1_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows UK sub 58 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6236 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_72.95bea2f.28004bf1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >anyone not seeing this behavior when synced externally? any way to get it >to work better other than to avoid sustaining sounds through the loop start >point? the MIDI standard just isn't accurate enough to sync a looper. Its good to hear that the EDP copes with this better than the JamMan though. Have you triec syncing the JamMan and then changing the MIDI tempo on it? and then overdubbing? especially if the new tempo is slower. ( you do get lots of clicks , but maybe worth it to some of us) andy butler (and here's hoping this email doesn't format badly, like mine have been lately) --part1_72.95bea2f.28004bf1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >anyone not seeing this behavior when synced externally?  any way to get it
>to work better other than to avoid sustaining sounds through the loop start
>point?
the MIDI standard just isn't accurate enough to
sync a looper.
Its good to hear that the EDP copes with this better than the JamMan though.

Have you triec syncing the JamMan and then changing
the MIDI tempo on it?
and then overdubbing?
especially if the new tempo is slower.
( you do get lots of clicks , but maybe worth it
to some of us)

andy butler
(and here's hoping this email doesn't format badly, like
mine have been lately)



--part1_72.95bea2f.28004bf1_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 7 10:57:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA03387; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:54:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:54:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "omjn" To: Subject: RE: ot: gig spam Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 22:52:18 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6237 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi I'm not associated with this gig but I can vouch for having used the very process you talk of, but only in an improv jam session. Some prepared loops and also some really quick pass through recording of a clarinet and guitarist into sound forge and then dumping these loops back into acid. It requires some dexterity to get something happening and its almost impossible to get rapid changes (quickest between stop recording and start playing would be say...3-5 seconds). we didn't take it very far as the players kind of went separate ways. still fun but not for the easily PC vexed. michael n -----Original Message----- From: lindsay@pavestone.com [mailto:lindsay@pavestone.com] Sent: Friday, 6 April 2001 11:46 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: ot: gig spam Just wondering--how do you (or anyone else) use ACID live? Seems like it would be a pretty "prepared audio" piece. How much actual performance are you capable of? I could see using multiple outs into a mixer and then play the mixer as an instrument--the mutes, faders, aux sends, pans, FXs, etc. What's your set up and your method? L RA336@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com 04/06/01 cc: 10:22 AM Subject: ot: gig spam Please respond to Loopers-Delig ht i'll be providing groove & ambient constructs via ACID behind avante/noise violinist Ritsu Katsumata at Republica just off the Cornell University Campus (for anyone in Ithaca ny) about 9;30 pm friday the 6th april. see: www.ritsu.com/republica2.htm best; Robby Aceto From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 7 16:50:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15296; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:47:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:47:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACF7D1D.F96A3996@minds-eye.org> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 13:48:30 -0700 From: Kevin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loop Subject: Electrix (NOT Repeater) question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6238 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, So on a whim I ordered an Electrix FilterQueen and now I have a quick question for anyone who has one of these. Is it usual for this unit to be VERY noisy? When the FQ is plugged and engaged it adds a level of hiss that is VERY noticeable. When you hit the momentary bypass of the filter, the hiss level drops of dramatically. The settings on the face plate don't seem to alter the level or type of hiss at all so I was wondering if this is some sort of defect or if its just the way such a filter unit behaves. Thanks in advance for any help Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 7 17:11:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA16889; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:09:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:09:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Message-Id: <200104072108.OAA17958@avocet.mail.pas.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 13:10:09 -0700 Subject: Re: Electrix (NOT Repeater) question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-2" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6239 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com well i roadie for a band that uses all stuff(except repeater,yet :-) and there is *no* inherent noise on those units,in my experience. stanner ---------- >From: Kevin >To: loop >Subject: Electrix (NOT Repeater) question >Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 13:48:30 -0700 > >Hi, > >So on a whim I ordered an Electrix FilterQueen and now I have a quick >question for anyone who has one of these. Is it usual for this unit to >be VERY noisy? When the FQ is plugged and engaged it adds a level of >hiss that is VERY noticeable. When you hit the momentary bypass of the >filter, the hiss level drops of dramatically. The settings on the face >plate don't seem to alter the level or type of hiss at all so I was >wondering if this is some sort of defect or if its just the way such a >filter unit behaves. > >Thanks in advance for any help > >Kevin > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 7 18:38:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA20337; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 18:34:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 18:34:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ACF964C.4CE2F567@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 15:53:55 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: question on standing ovations References: <3ACE41A8.E625AD5B@Sun.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6240 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Simran gleason wrote: > ...ictological variant of pendant, meaning of or pertaining to > little hangie things that swings back and forth, back and forth. > Sorry for any confusion. but i thought there was an army song about that... :^) lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 8 05:02:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA07068; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 04:57:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 04:57:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AD027BE.C8DAFD57@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 04:56:30 -0400 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: many questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6241 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have delurked and have a few q's for ya'll. 1. I want to buy a Minidisc recorder for my son. I love my Sharp that I got a couple of yrs ago but am not sure what brand has the most bang for the buck now. the new Sharp MDSR60 looks pretty good specially for the price. 180$. i am not a wealthy man btw. 2.I need a road case for my rack gear w/ a mixer. did I mention that I am not a wealthy man yet? Musicians Friend has some Cadence that are in my range 200$ w/ a top angled seperate mixer rack, 8 & 12 space same price. Any advice? 3.A power conditioner for the rack. they are wide and varied in price and I don't know much about them. I am in the 2-300$ range. ouch this is adding up. i like the looks of the Furman PM-Pro Power Conditioner, 280$ from Musicians Friend. i am gonna start playing out again , ahh spring fever and G.A.S. what a combo. I am also going to start typing all lowercase I give up! Did I mention that I use will use all of this stuf for Looping? thank you all for now ahead of time and for all that i have learned and unlearned from this list over the years. jd, aka echo17 http://members.nbci.com/echo17/tbl.html http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/185/echo_17.html my much more famous sons jd jrs.site http://www.krimson-news.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 8 10:07:29 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA19670; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:06:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:06:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: mibeck@143.229.1.6 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3AD027BE.C8DAFD57@bellsouth.net> References: <3AD027BE.C8DAFD57@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:05:32 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Michael Beck Subject: Re: many questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6242 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >2.I need a road case for my rack gear w/ a mixer. >did I mention that I am not a wealthy man yet? >Musicians Friend has some Cadence that are in my >range 200$ w/ a top angled seperate mixer rack, 8 & >12 space same price. Any advice? > >3.A power conditioner for the rack. they are wide >and varied in price and I don't know much about >them. I am in the 2-300$ range. ouch this is adding >up. i like the looks of the Furman PM-Pro Power >Conditioner, 280$ from Musicians Friend. I don't know if anyone will agree with me on this, but I find eBay a *very* good resource for cheap gear if you know what you're looking for & how to buy. For instance, I got a generic 9 space *shockmounted* rack for, what, $120? Definitely a hook-up! But there are a lot of bad deals on eBay, too. For instance, there used to be some jerk who was selling 25 rack screws for $20. Nevermind the local hardware store, you can get 100 of the exact same screws at Musician's Friend for $10! The sad thing is that this guy apparently did a lot of business... Also check out the newsgroups - I got a SKB 12 space (non shock, but the good one with two sets of rails) for $100. Compare that to any retail store - my price was less than half of new! For stuff like racks, stands, hardware, it just makes more sense (to me, at least) to buy used. There are no electronics to break - hardware is either fine or it's not, and you can easily tell which is which. Nothing can come back to bite you in 6 months! As for power conditioners, you can get crappy ones for $30 and reasonably good ones for $40 on eBay & usenet. I paid at little more for mine (a PL-Pro, actually), but only because I wanted 20 amp capacity. Still around 1/3 of new, though, and it's served me very well. I encourage you to at least check out sources of used gear. There's no reason to pay double to some chain for some metal & plastic - but know your shit before you buy anything. I can help if you want. Good luck! - Mike From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 8 10:29:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA20084; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:28:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:28:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <014201c0c037$d7046e60$4b1451d8@escape.ca> From: "Jack Lazaruk" To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 09:25:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_013F_01C0C00D.D29EBC60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <056hZ.A.b4E.kVH06@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_013F_01C0C00D.D29EBC60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe ------=_NextPart_000_013F_01C0C00D.D29EBC60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_013F_01C0C00D.D29EBC60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 8 10:35:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA20559; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:33:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:33:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Saundra L. Shackelford & Larry Madden" To: Subject: Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 08:31:21 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C0C006.4A99BCE0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6244 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C0C006.4A99BCE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a roland vs1680, my cd burner went out. Does anyone know if I have to buy the roland cd burner or can I buy some other brand. Thanks, Sandy ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C0C006.4A99BCE0 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="winmail.dat" eJ8+IhYOAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEGgAMADgAAANEHBAAIAAgAHwAAAAAACwEB A5AGAAwFAAAkAAAACwACAAEAAAALACMAAAAAAAMAJgAAAAAACwApAAAAAAADADYAAAAAAAIBcQAB AAAAFgAAAAHAwDiT5vD7kUMr+BHVnWVERVNUAAAAAAIBHQwBAAAAFQAAAFNNVFA6VEFaWk1PQEZN VEMuQ09NAAAAAAsAAQ4AAAAAQAAGDgCqEog4wMABAgEKDgEAAAAYAAAAAAAAAKvKI3DJe78RsDD+ hb8wXOzCgAAACwAfDgEAAAACAQkQAQAAAOMAAADfAAAAFgEAAExaRnW0tpstAwAKAHJjcGcxMjUW MgD4C2BuDhAwMzNPAfcCpAPjAgBjaArAc7BldDAgBxMCgH0KgZJ2CJB3awuAZDQMYI5jAFALAwu1 IEkgEPBgdmUgYSADYA8BZAAgdnMxNjgwLKAgbXkgYxSwYghwcm4EkCB3CfAFQAhgdGAuICBEbweR AHB54wIgFCBrbm8H4AaQE8bMdG8VoRVgdGgUIBRluxWIBbFjA5ET0BiycwNwTRQgbxjxBcBichSR LosKogqAVBDwbmtzFTC5BhFkeRwkHCQR4QAeUAALAAGACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAADhQAA AAAAAAMAA4AIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAABCFAAAAAAAAAwAHgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYA AAAAUoUAACdqAQAeAAmACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAABUhQAAAQAAAAQAAAA5LjAAHgAKgAgg BgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAANoUAAAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAB4AC4AIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAA ADeFAAABAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAeAAyACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAA4hQAAAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAA CwANgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAgoUAAAEAAAALADqACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAO hQAAAAAAAAMAPIAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAABGFAAAAAAAAAwA9gAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAA AEYAAAAAGIUAAAAAAAADAF2ACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAABhQAAAAAAAAsAeIAIIAYAAAAA AMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAAaFAAAAAAAAAgH4DwEAAAAQAAAAq8ojcMl7vxGwMP6FvzBc7AIB+g8BAAAA EAAAAKvKI3DJe78RsDD+hb8wXOwCAfsPAQAAAIIAAAAAAAAAOKG7EAXlEBqhuwgAKypWwgAAUFNU UFJYLkRMTAAAAAAAAAAATklUQfm/uAEAqgA32W4AAABDOlxXSU5ET1dTXExvY2FsIFNldHRpbmdz XEFwcGxpY2F0aW9uIERhdGFcTWljcm9zb2Z0XE91dGxvb2tcb3V0bG9vay5wc3QAAAADAP4PBQAA AAMADTT9NwAAAgF/AAEAAAAvAAAAPExQQkJMQURBRkZFUEpNRUFKRkpIR0VMRENFQUEudGF6em1v QGZtdGMuY29tPgAAAwAGEMjIFt4DAAcQcgAAAAMAEBAAAAAAAwAREAAAAAAeAAgQAQAAAGUAAABJ SEFWRUFST0xBTkRWUzE2ODAsTVlDREJVUk5FUldFTlRPVVRET0VTQU5ZT05FS05PV0lGSUhBVkVU T0JVWVRIRVJPTEFORENEQlVSTkVST1JDQU5JQlVZU09NRU9USEVSQlJBAAAAAM35 ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C0C006.4A99BCE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 8 10:37:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA20951; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:36:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:36:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Delivered-To: fixup-Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com@fixme User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 07:35:14 -0700 Subject: Re: Filter Queen hiss From: Tiktok To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200104081429.KAA20230@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6245 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com My roommate has one, and it also adds noticeable hiss whenever it's engaged. TravisH >So on a whim I ordered an Electrix FilterQueen and now I have a quick >question for anyone who has one of these. Is it usual for this unit to >be VERY noisy? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 8 11:24:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA22848; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 11:22:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 11:22:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006b01c0c040$48c6c540$3d81e3a5@looppool> From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: References: <200104081429.KAA20231@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: OT: 'pendantic standing ovations' Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 08:26:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <9Dbf9D.A.DiF.OII06@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6246 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In this increasingly fascinating and meandering 'off topic' thread, Paul Reisler wrote: "i suppose it's part of my own wierdness that i enjoy watching people look around quizzically when i .........create my own STANDING OVATION with an applause patch." Simran Gleason responded: "pendantic," from my American Standard Dictionary of Malapropisms, is the ictological variant of pendant, meaning of or pertaining to LITTLE HANGIE THINGS THAT SWINGS BACK AND FORTH, back and forth." and I just have to add (because the connection is so wierd and appropriate: A few years ago, a wonderful multi-reedist, Gary Regina, and I got a duet looping gig at, of all things, a local nudist club in the Santa Cruz Mountains. Clothing was optional for both us and the sweet people we were playing for and it was the middle of the winter so everyone who showed up for this night concert of ours was wearing full clothing. All, that is, except for this one very enthusiastic older gentleman who was wearing a shirt, a jacket and absolutely nothing else below the waist. We were very well recieved and responding to the thunderous applause (not sampled ;-), I turned to Gary and said, "Geez, I've never recieved a Dangling Ovation before." Pu-dum-pum! Rick Walker (loop.pool) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 8 12:05:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA24600; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 12:03:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 12:03:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AD08B5F.CA71F11E@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 12:01:35 -0400 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: many questions References: <3AD027BE.C8DAFD57@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6247 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com thanks for the advice, I will especially check out the used hardware, great advice. I have never used e-bay befor but why not check it and the newsgroups out. My wallet feels better already, hmmm, now maybe a sweet reverb unit. hehe help somebody stop me! jeff > >2.I need a road case for my rack gear w/ a mixer. > Any advice? > > > >3.A power conditioner for the rack. > > > I don't know if anyone will agree with me on this, but I find eBay > a *very* good resource for cheap gear if you know what you're looking > for & how to buy. > > Also check out the newsgroups > > For stuff like racks, stands, hardware, it just makes more sense > (to me, at least) to buy used. > As for power conditioners, > I encourage you to at least check out sources of used gear. > There's no reason to pay double to some chain for some metal & > plastic - but know your shit before you buy anything. I can help if > you want. Good luck! > > - Mike From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 8 13:09:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA31130; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 13:06:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 13:06:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: XtReMeSkAtEbDr@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 13:05:36 EDT Subject: unsubscribe To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_e0.12e5da49.2801f460_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 129 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6248 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_e0.12e5da49.2801f460_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit unsubscribe --part1_e0.12e5da49.2801f460_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-xa02.mx.aol.com (rly-xa02.mail.aol.com [172.20.105.71]) by air-xa01.mail.aol.com (v77_r1.36) with ESMTP; Sun, 08 Apr 2001 10:28:38 -0500 Received: from hemlock.violacea.com (hemlock.superb.net [207.228.238.9]) by rly-xa02.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.36) with ESMTP; Sun, 08 Apr 2001 10:28:17 -0400 Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA20019; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:28:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 10:28:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <014201c0c037$d7046e60$4b1451d8@escape.ca> From: "Jack Lazaruk" To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 09:25:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_013F_01C0C00D.D29EBC60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <056hZ.A.b4E.kVH06@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6243 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ------=_NextPart_000_013F_01C0C00D.D29EBC60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe ------=_NextPart_000_013F_01C0C00D.D29EBC60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_013F_01C0C00D.D29EBC60-- --part1_e0.12e5da49.2801f460_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 8 14:21:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA06234; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 14:18:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 14:18:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2001 11:16:26 -0700 From: Doug Lawrence Subject: Re: CD Burner For VS-1680 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <002f01c0c058$06dce9d0$0482c83f@allindlaw> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Content-type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 References: X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6249 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com A great resource for Roland VS gear is http://www.vsplanet.com I would search their archives for compatible CD-ROM burners ... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Saundra L. Shackelford & Larry Madden" To: Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 7:31 AM > I have a roland vs1680, my cd burner went out. Does anyone know if I have > to buy the roland cd burner or can I buy some other brand. > Thanks, Sandy > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 8 19:13:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA07075; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 19:10:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 19:10:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Lee Barnes" To: Subject: RE: Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 19:09:57 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0C05F.80571270" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6250 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0C05F.80571270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sandy, I believe that the only constraint is that it handles SCSI II on the burner end, don't remember off the top of my head what the SCSI ID is supposed to be set to with the Roland equipment, but I do know that they've had the foresight to remain consistent in settings. Hope that this helps out. LeeohkinoWired. > -----Original Message----- > From: Saundra L. Shackelford & Larry Madden > [mailto:tazzmo@fmtc.com] > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2001 10:31 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: > > I have a roland vs1680, my cd burner went out. 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DLM on 4/8/01 11:26 AM, Rick Walker (loop.pool) at GLOBAL@cruzio.com wrote: > A few years ago, a wonderful multi-reedist, Gary Regina, and I got a > duet looping gig at, of all things, a local nudist club in the > Santa Cruz Mountains. Clothing was optional for both us... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 9 02:01:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA23062; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 01:59:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 01:59:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001801c0c0ba$36a1d740$772078d8@prelayomb> From: "Gary Lehmann" To: References: <00b701c0be5f$b4026400$098e6fd4@dolly> Subject: OT: PMC Foot Switch Adjustments Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 22:59:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6252 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Oh, I don't know if it's really off thread, is it? This list is about gear, isn't it? I find that the individual switches on the PMC-10 react differently to the touch. Has anyone adjusted their pedals? Any tips? I am finding that sending the odd patch and remaining in a given bank (and the same with the odd bank and a given set) is quite useful--thanks to Miko (?) Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 9 06:24:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA31458; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 06:19:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 06:19:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.148.1.172] From: "Peter Underwood" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: PMC Foot Switch Adjustments Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 03:18:17 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Apr 2001 10:18:17.0960 (UTC) FILETIME=[6534B680:01C0C0DE] Resent-Message-ID: <-SYnw.A.pqH.JyY06@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6253 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Oh, I don't know if it's really off thread, is it? This list is about >gear, >isn't it? Gary, I believe the obligatory argument is: "No, this list is all about looping." The fact that it also has proven to be an internet watering hole for gearheads is merely a side effect of the technology necessary to create the loop based music, and of the personality quirks of people who enjoy creating that music. Just thought that I would attempt to preempt any potential flames that might be forthcoming for you. -skully >I find that the individual switches on the PMC-10 react differently to the >touch. Has anyone adjusted their pedals? Any tips? >I am finding that sending the odd patch and remaining in a given bank (and >the same with the odd bank and a given set) is quite useful--thanks to Miko >(?) >Gary > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 9 06:43:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA31970; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 06:37:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 06:37:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <011d01c0c0e1$3d60c2e0$9f9193c3@CBra981419> From: "Colin Bradley" To: "loopers delight" Subject: Berlin music / gigs enquiry Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:29:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6254 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hello people later this week i'm travelling out to berlin for a couple of days. i would appreciate any suggestions on good places (bars, clubs, gigs etc) where you can listen to music related to this list. any idea at all? i know its the easter break but there must be something happening... sorry if you receive this email more than once, and thanks in advance. colin colin@dual.co.uk www.dual.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 9 07:37:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA01949; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:35:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 07:35:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001a01c0c0e9$1fe9c1a0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <011d01c0c0e1$3d60c2e0$9f9193c3@CBra981419> Subject: Re: Berlin music / gigs enquiry Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 12:34:59 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6255 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I understand the annual Love Parade was cancelled relatively recently, so there should be some more going on than usual. Apparently the German Green Party has had a lot of gripes about the Parade due to the trash/etc. afterwards (or so it claims), and was able to get it cancelled by scheduling a rally the same weekend, in the same area. This comes via alt.music.rave ... Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! http://www.mp3.com/StephenGoodman * New MP3 Releases! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Bradley" To: "loopers delight" Sent: 09 April 2001 11:29 AM Subject: Berlin music / gigs enquiry > hello people > later this week i'm travelling out to berlin for a couple of days. i > would appreciate any suggestions on good places (bars, clubs, gigs > etc) where you can listen to music related to this list. any idea at > all? i know its the easter break but there must be something > happening... > > sorry if you receive this email more than once, and thanks in advance. > > colin > colin@dual.co.uk > www.dual.co.uk > > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 9 08:26:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA04112; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:25:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:25:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:24:02 -0700 Subject: re: Michael Masley/reviews/fretless guitar From: Steve Lawson To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6256 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >>>It was definatly Micheal Masley.Being an East Bay person I have seen and heard him for years.He invented the hammers which (I believe) have very small grooves cut into them.<<< ...and the band that features him with Michael Manring is called 'Cloud Chamber' and is brilliant. Their CD is weird music heaven! :o) there's a great review of it at http://www.collective.co.uk/misfitcity/ - which is the home of the Misfit City e-zine, edited by Dann Chinn, and is a great read (especially the wonderful review of a gig of mine from the end of last year) talking of reviews and cool sites, http://www.bassically.net and http://www.aural-innovations.com have both just added reviews of my album. Bassically is a bass site, with a heavy emphasis on solo bass stuff, and aural innovations is a space-rock/ambient/electronica site, with some really interesting stuff there. and finally, following on from the recent discussion about fretless guitar, I've just got back from 'la nuit de la fretlesse' - a fretless festival in Mende, France, which this year featured me, ned evett, fretless machine, yan vagh and ron thall (though as far as I saw, neither Ron nor any of his band played anything fretless through-out their whole set, which was a little confusing...) Ned was playing his Fernandes glass fingerboard creation, which sounded brilliant, Yan was playing a 10 string fretless guitar (the lowest 5 from a normal guitar, doubled like an Oud), which also sounded fantastic (and he used a headrush on a couple of tunes), and Franck Vigroux with Fretless machine played a Vigier (co-sponsors of the event) fretless with a metal fingerboard, and has a fantastic sound. You might think that a fretless festival would turn into a temple to duff intonation, but fortunately all the attendant musos were great - that's the second bizarre niche festival I've played this year, after the solo bass looping show in Santa Cruz, and both have been such great events. It's heartening to find non commercially-scheming musicians putting on such great events and doing it so well! Time to start thinking about a London looping/bass/weird shit fest for the end of the year methinks... Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 9 08:57:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA04737; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:54:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:54:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002101c0c0f4$8cd38700$16110b3e@c3v8b8> From: "tiscali" To: References: Subject: R: A guitarloop work. Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:50:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6257 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com salve roberto sono graziano accinni ti ho appena spedito al tuo indirizzo postale un pò di brani di mia produzione,ti dò il mio indirizzo di posta elettronica e anche quello di vitaminic grazianoaccinni@tiscalinet.it http//stage.vitaminic.com/accynny ciao a presto. ----- Original Message ----- From: roberto To: Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 3:46 PM Subject: Re: A guitarloop work. > > on 2/4/01 12:06 AM, Massimo Liverani at massliv@dada.it wrote: > > > > Hi! I'm always been actracted by looping sounds since the first time that i > > heard it. - Frippertronics (in 1979) > > I'm 40 and I play guitar. After having spent a whole year to find a jam-man i > > did found it. (and also a Vortex !) > > I live in Italy (Florence) and for italian people looping music is not very > > popular. :-( > > I've made a CD using a setup composed by Jam-man, Vortex, ElectroHamonics > > microsintesizer. > > Me and other 2 guitarist are going to do a looping live perfomance here in > > Florence with 3 Jam-man all conncected together with natural sounds noises, > > etc etc. > > Are you interested to listen the CD and support the live perfomance?...not > > with money! :-) > > If you want i can send a copy. > > Bye and long live looping-music and loopingdelight! > > MaX > > > Coincidenze.. > Ho 44 anni, sono un chitarrista (Italiano anche se vivo in Inghilterra) e ho > cominciato a suonare looped guitars molti anni fa dopo aver sentito i primi > esperimenti di Fripp. > Ho un piccola casa di distribuzione di musica "insolita" su Internet, se mi > mandi una copia del tuo CD magari posso includerlo nel catalogo. > Il sito è in via di completo rifacimento perchè è cresciuto troppo e la > pagina catalogo con i campioni musicali dai vari cd è diventata lenta. Tra > un paio di settimane il nuovo sito, con molti nuovi CD e la possibilità di > pagare con carta di credito, sarà attivato. > Dai un'occhiata a com'è al momento e se ti sembra adatto mandami una copia > dei tuoi lavori e vediamo se riesco a vendertene un po'. > > http://www.rustyrobot.com > > il mio indirizzo postale è: > Roberto Battista > 57 Great North Road > Barnet, Herts EN5 1AY > Inghilterra > > ______________________________________________ > Roberto Battista > http://www.robat.scl.net > http://www.robat.scl.net/lectures/index.shtm > Tel. 0044 020 8449 1995 > Mobile 0775 960 4344 > ______________________________________________ > http://www.rustyrobot.com > independent on-line music distribution, > the music you can't find elsewhere, > contemporary classical, eclectic, world... > ______________________________________________ > http://www.robat.scl.net/html/tibet/tibet.shtm > an exciting project on technology applied to > mobile education for developing countries and > remote locations... > ______________________________________________ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 9 09:27:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA06720; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:26:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:26:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <458C5635B9A1D3119910009027AC77987BE6DD@CARTER> From: Phil Teague To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: Digitec IPS 33B Urgently Required Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:25:40 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6258 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > I had my Digitec IPS-33B smashed up in a road accident and am struggling > to get a replacement. > Can anyone help me to locate a replacement as there doesn't seem to be any available in the UK ? > Help! > phil.teague@2020log.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 9 10:41:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA09305; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:39:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:39:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AD1C97F.3868F162@bellsouth.net> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:38:56 -0400 From: steve Reply-To: studio_t@bellsouth.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Digitec IPS 33B Urgently Required References: <458C5635B9A1D3119910009027AC77987BE6DD@CARTER> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-kr6MB.A.kPC.ylc06@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6259 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com you should check ebay, they pop up there w/ some frequency From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 9 11:12:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA11240; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:10:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 11:10:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3ACF7D1D.F96A3996@minds-eye.org> References: <3ACF7D1D.F96A3996@minds-eye.org> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 08:07:29 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: Electrix (NOT Repeater) question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6260 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I had this same problem with my FQ...when i was trying to use it in line with my stompboxes. Once i put if after the preamp, everything cleaned up very nicely! Electrix stuff seems to like hot signal levels... rich >Hi, > >So on a whim I ordered an Electrix FilterQueen and now I have a quick >question for anyone who has one of these. Is it usual for this unit to >be VERY noisy? When the FQ is plugged and engaged it adds a level of >hiss that is VERY noticeable. When you hit the momentary bypass of the >filter, the hiss level drops of dramatically. The settings on the face >plate don't seem to alter the level or type of hiss at all so I was >wondering if this is some sort of defect or if its just the way such a >filter unit behaves. > >Thanks in advance for any help > >Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 9 13:22:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA16894; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:20:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:20:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 10:17:24 -0700 Subject: Re: Electrix (NOT Repeater) question From: Jamie Drouin To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6261 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I had Darrell respond to Kevin off-list, but I thought others might find this information of use as well: ******************************** Kevin, thanks for writing. I think I understand what the problem is with how you've got your Filter Queen connected. First of all the Filter Queen was designed to run at line level like most studio FX processors. That is quite a bit different than guitar level, which is a much weaker signal, and also explains why it sounds noisy in your setup. All signal processors are setup to work at a particular level. Some have level switching on them to allow them to switch between guitar level and line level, but most don't. The reason products have this is to achieve a respectable signal to noise ratio. When you run guitar level through a line level box, the signal is so low that the noise ends up sounding louder that it should. (Thanks Dr. Signal for the textbook response!) So here's what you need to do to enter the world of great tone, and low noise! Use the Effects loop on your guitar amp for the Filter Queen. Most amps have a line level, post pre-amp loop that is totally compatible with the Filter Queen. Try hooking it up in Mono, and kick in the 4pole mode switch on the back. This should solve you noise problems real fast. Now, if you don't have a effects loop on your amp, there is one other way to make this work. Pick up an MXR Micro amp, and hit that before the Filter Queen. The MXR is a pre amp that will bring your guitar level up to line level. You can now connect the output of the Queen to the input of your amp. You will probably have to adjust your settings on the amp to get the output back down to a tolerable level. So that's a big explanation. Let me know how it goes. Cheers, Darrell Smith > Hello, > > I just recently purchased a Filter Queen via mail order. This was sort > of an impulse thing so I didn't try it out anywhere before I bought it. > My question is this: Is it normal for the unit to be noisy (as in > ambient white noise produced while the effect is engaged)? When this is > put in my signal chain it automatically adds a high level of hiss. I > know its the FQ because if you hit the momentary switch on the FQ the > hiss drops out to it normal levels. > > I'm really enjoying the unit so far but I need to figure this out. I > can't really use it if its actually that noisy. Is there something I > should be doing to try and adjust the amount of hiss that is produced > (the hiss doesn't seem to vary with any adjustments from the face place > i.e., frequency, follower, resonance, etc.) or is this the nature of the > beast? > > I'm running a line in coming from a guitar and effects configuration. > > Thanks > > Kevin Cheli-Colando From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 9 14:10:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA19108; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:08:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:08:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AD1FACD.313A3047@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 11:15:31 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6262 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "Saundra L. Shackelford & Larry Madden" wrote: > I have a roland vs1680, my cd burner went out. Does anyone know if I have > to buy the roland cd burner or can I buy some other brand. > Thanks, Sandy > roland will say you have to use theirs, but i don't believe it. somewhere on the old vs list i used to subscribe to there was a thread about alternatives, though i looked and wasn't able to find it; i think the list is still active, if you want to subscribe, you can do it at: http://www.mooncafe.com/4artists/# good luck! lance g. ps what were you using that broke? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 9 14:40:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA19947; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:37:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:37:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 12:33:09 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <200104091733.f39HX9Y12426@servidor.unam.mx> X-Sender: smaug@servidor.unam.mx X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Andy Soto Subject: Jam Man Footswitch Resent-Message-ID: <2czMmD.A.40E._Ag06@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6263 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com what kind of footswitch I could use for the Jam man? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 9 16:06:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA24157; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:04:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:04:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AD21578.6D9F873D@soundsliketree.com> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:03:04 -0700 From: e o X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: MIDI groove machine application ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6264 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello Loopers! I'm trying to find a way to switch between separate, looping, multi-track MIDI sequences within a consistent groove. I have found no way to do this in my main sequencer, Digital Performer, only people to commiserate with about the lack of such a (IMHO) fundamental feature (one found in most drum machines). SO! I have heard that the late Opcode Studio Vision could do this sort of thing somehow. I am considering dedicating an old powerbook to the task of running it. Can anyone tell me how to get the last version of the program, and how late a version of Mac OS I can have and still run it? OR... Can anyone suggest an alternative? I hear that MAX would be a good platform to use to build such a program, yet I am not interested in learning to program (in MAX or any other language). I prefer to concentrate on practicing and composing music. All help and kind vibes are welcomed with deep gratitude. eo -- eric oberthaler http://www.soundsliketree.com (music within) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 9 16:49:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25338; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:48:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:48:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: JohnFlem@aol.com Message-ID: <15.126688c2.280379b4@aol.com> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:46:44 EDT Subject: Re: Filter Queen hiss To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6265 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is probably not what you want to hear...but I got my money back. All of the Electrix stuff is set up for +4 operation. Most Instruments are around -20. You would have to set up your entire rig for +4 using a Console with Aux sends at +4. It makes it a REAL hassle if you want to run into an Amp. I still found it to be noisy on my Yamaha ProMix 01v. I don't get ANY noise from my other Filters (Electro Harmonix, BigBriar, Mutron etc....) but they are made for Instrument level Operation, and NOT DJ gear. I really like the fetaures in the WHOLE ELectrix line, but they really need to 'fix' this if they want to sell to Guitar Players. jmp In a message dated 4/9/01 11:22:33 AM, Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com writes: >So on a whim I ordered an Electrix FilterQueen and now I have a quick >question for anyone who has one of these. Is it usual for this unit to >be VERY noisy? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 9 16:55:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25846; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:53:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:53:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Kevin Mulvihill" To: Subject: RE: My set-up (was: 'Rang? EDP? 01V?) Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 13:57:37 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6266 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Well, my general response is "WOW!" That's some studio you're assembling. One other question at this time: > We're in the process of building our new studio space, so we haven't got > everything in its permanant place. What I can tell you is that the > Hammerfall works beutifully under Win2000 (needed to capitalize > on the dual processors)... In what way does the Hammerfall capitalize on the dual processors in your system? Thanks, Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 9 17:14:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA27599; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:11:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 17:11:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Message-Id: <200104092110.OAA11543@goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 14:12:19 -0700 Subject: Re: Filter Queen hiss To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6267 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com no fix needed!if you put these 'line level' products in the efx loop like the lady says all guitar players(like me) will be very happy along w/ their 'electrix' products.imho ---------- >From: JohnFlem@aol.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: Filter Queen hiss >Date: Mon, Apr 9, 2001, 1:46 PM > >This is probably not what you want to hear...but I got my money back. >All of the Electrix stuff is set up for +4 operation. Most Instruments are >around -20. You would have to set up your entire rig for +4 using a Console >with Aux sends at +4. It makes it a REAL hassle if you want to run into an >Amp. >I still found it to be noisy on my Yamaha ProMix 01v. I don't get ANY noise >from my other Filters (Electro Harmonix, BigBriar, Mutron etc....) but they >are made for Instrument level Operation, and NOT DJ gear. >I really like the fetaures in the WHOLE ELectrix line, but they really need >to 'fix' this if they want to sell to Guitar Players. >jmp > > >In a message dated 4/9/01 11:22:33 AM, >Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com writes: > >>So on a whim I ordered an Electrix FilterQueen and now I have a quick >>question for anyone who has one of these. Is it usual for this unit to >>be VERY noisy? > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 9 20:05:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01261; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 19:58:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 19:58:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010409235401.21563.qmail@web5103.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 16:54:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Alx Subject: Re: Jam Man Footswitch To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <200104091733.f39HX9Y12426@servidor.unam.mx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <2Zv4CC.A.1R.auk06@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6268 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com You can use any kind of "non-latching" switch, I just started to use a Digitech FS300 and works much-much better that the original Lexicon footswitch, but, the best thing is to use a MIDI pedalboard ´cause in that way you can access all the functions in loop mode without touching the front knobs and also you can access some "hidden" functions like control over 3 different fade times for your loops. Alx. --- Andy Soto wrote: > > what kind of footswitch I could use for the Jam > man? > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 9 23:17:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA10445; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 23:15:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 23:15:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00cf01c0c16c$30786840$0cd3f7a5@com> From: "Alan Imberg" To: "Loopers" Subject: OT: CD Release Spam Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:13:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CC_01C0C131.82C23DA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6269 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CC_01C0C131.82C23DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings Loopers: I've just released my debut full-length, titled "A Collection of = Thoughts", which is about 80% loopage content. Its available through = Amazon.com and other fine locations. If you are interested in more = details, please visit my web page (http://home.sprynet.com/~alan_i).=20 Best Regards, Alan Imberg ------=_NextPart_000_00CC_01C0C131.82C23DA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetings Loopers:
I've just released my debut = full-length, titled "A=20 Collection of Thoughts", which is about 80% loopage content. Its = available=20 through Amazon.com and other fine locations. If you are interested in = more=20 details, please visit my web page (http://home.sprynet.com/~alan_i<= /A>).=20
 
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------=_NextPart_000_00CC_01C0C131.82C23DA0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 9 23:42:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA11026; Mon, 9 Apr 2001 23:40:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 23:40:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "J. Miranda V." To: Subject: RE: CD Release Spam Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:36:36 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0C134.C61B1E20" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: <00cf01c0c16c$30786840$0cd3f7a5@com> Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6270 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0C134.C61B1E20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Alan, congratulations! This is great news. I hope it is a great success for you. Best wishes, Javier Berkeley -----Original Message----- From: Alan Imberg [mailto:alan_i@sprynet.com] Sent: Monday 09 April 2001 8:13 PM To: Loopers Subject: OT: CD Release Spam Greetings Loopers: I've just released my debut full-length, titled "A Collection of = Thoughts", which is about 80% loopage content. Its available through = Amazon.com and other fine locations. If you are interested in more = details, please visit my web page (http://home.sprynet.com/~alan_i).=20 Best Regards, Alan Imberg ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0C134.C61B1E20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Alan,=20 congratulations!
 
This=20 is great news.  I hope it is a great success for = you.
 
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Javier
Berkeley
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Greetings Loopers:
I've just released my debut = full-length, titled=20 "A Collection of Thoughts", which is about 80% loopage content. = Its=20 available through Amazon.com and other fine locations. If you are = interested=20 in more details, please visit my web page (http://home.sprynet.com/~alan_i<= /A>).=20
 
Best Regards,
Alan Imberg
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0C134.C61B1E20-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 10 01:16:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA15684; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:13:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:13:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AD296EF.43D68078@minds-eye.org> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 22:15:28 -0700 From: Kevin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Filter Queen hiss References: <200104092110.OAA11543@goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6271 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks to everyone who chimed in on this one. I have just unplugged from a highly satisfying night of filter damage after trying the fixes suggested. Looks like the inoperative element was me :-) All's well that ends well and all that Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 10 01:34:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA16240; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:32:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:32:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002801c0c17e$961e92c0$64b4a8c0@mindspring.com> From: "phalen orion" To: Subject: New Program: Audio Encoding Helper -- Encode mp3 and Real Audio in One Step Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 22:24:51 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6272 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This email is being sent to you because you are part of my circle of friends or are a member of a music-related email list to which I belong. My apologies if you consider this spam... I am merely trying to get the word out on a tool which I have created which I believe can be of assistance to some of you. Direct all flames & complaints to me or to DEV/NULL. Thank you :) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I don't know how many of you have band or other sites where you post both mp3s and real audio files of the same track. As some of you may know (I'd sure as hell hope so!), I do! Because of how much of a pain in the ass it is to reenter the same information twice, create .ram files by hand, etc.... I created a program to help automate the creation and FTPing of the files. You can take a look at information and a screenshot at http://www.infin8ty.com/progs/enchelper.asp . If you are interested in hearing the quality, you can check out some music by Caldwell's project everything Blue at http://www.infin8ty.com/music.asp?artistID=cld These mp3s and real audio files were encoded and uploaded with the new program. Best, phalen180 http://www.infin8ty.com/ - oneinfin8tyzero: a digital artists collective From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 10 07:04:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA28638; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:00:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:00:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <4c.13720f82.28044162@aol.com> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 06:58:42 EDT Subject: OT: ACiD loop spam To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6273 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com heyall. info, for those interested in this kinda stuff: my new library of loops-for-ACiD has just been released by Sonic Foundry. s'called: david torn:::splattercell:::textural elements. i'm sure it's somewhere within www.sonicfoundry.com, as well as being widely available via musical intrument retailers all over the place. best, spltrcl / dt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 10 07:42:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA29443; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:41:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 07:41:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:40:28 -0700 Subject: MPX-R1 question From: Steve Lawson To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6274 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Does anyone have any cool ideas for making the R1 foot controller quieter??? I really like the interface (though I do wish that it was a couple of inches shorter so that it would fit in the back of my rack!) but the really loud clicking sounds that happen whenever i press a pedal is really annoying, especially as I play in really quiet settings in studios, and don't want to have to mic my cab in the next room. any ideas of modifying it internally to make it a little quieter? conversely, can anyone suggest another foot controller that will have the same functions that is a) a little bit smaller and b) less noisy! cheers Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 10 08:45:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA31635; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:42:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:42:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AD31B26.6CB27E20@vtx.ch> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:39:34 +0000 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight Subject: (OT) Dat to Mp3 application ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6275 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Salut les gars After now 3 years of heavy looping I've made up some serious recordings :10 x 90 min Dat tapes of audio material that I want to use somehow, but, its a huge collection 15 Hours... I guess were back to looping as I guess I'm not alone in this case... during those years I took "some" time to make a database of all what is recorded on my dats: setups informations, special tuning used, pgram change, used patches names etc etc I even have screen dumps from my switchblade's configs... the only link that is missing is a direct access to whats more important to me : the sound so the idea is to make up CD roms of the Dat's contents in mp3 format (the size is more important here..) that would be linked to the database so I could listen to old stuff fast without handling my Masters too much ) ----DAT is fragile------ Now that you have the background heres what I'm looking for: a PC application that can record the spdif 48K and do realtime Mp3 conversion and saving on my hard disk in a batch style operation (for "during nap" operation) sure I need some way to have the program detect by threshold the end of the tune because I would like to have one mp3 file by DAT index I would like to have the least edit operations before burning to cd; although there will surely be some... Which software can do that ? did I just create a market? what time is it? ALAbienToT Claude From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 10 09:14:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA00939; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:13:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:13:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000c01c0c1bf$7c619c60$a0a26099@izmmpc33.izm-m.fhg.de> Reply-To: "Rainer Straschill" From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Subject: Re: (OT) Dat to Mp3 application ?? Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:09:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0C1D0.3F9AECD0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <-VAoAB.A.RO.uZw06@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6276 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0C1D0.3F9AECD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Claude, what I'd do using the software I have: use SoundForge to record the DATs to a WAV file from your SPDIFs, = creating markers based on threshold. Then use a batch macro in = SoundForge to make selections based on the Markers and export these to = separate WAV files with the Paste-to-New command. Then use a = NT/Linux/whatever script to kick up the commandline-operated mp3 = converter by Fraunhofer IIS (or any other commandline-based converter) = to convert all of these separate WAVs to mp3s. This isn't really = realtime, but can run in the background while you record new DATs to = disc. what time is it? =20 Its 15:09 here in central europe, daylight saving time... Rainer ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0C1D0.3F9AECD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Claude,
 
what I'd do using the software I have:
 
use SoundForge to record the DATs to a WAV file from = your=20 SPDIFs, creating markers based on threshold. Then use a batch macro in=20 SoundForge to make selections based on the Markers and export these to = separate=20 WAV files with the Paste-to-New command. Then use a NT/Linux/whatever = script to=20 kick up the commandline-operated mp3 converter by Fraunhofer IIS (or any = other=20 commandline-based converter) to convert all of these separate WAVs to = mp3s. This=20 isn't really realtime, but can run in the background while you record = new DATs=20 to disc.
what=20 time is it?
Its 15:09 here in central europe, daylight saving time...
 
          &nbs= p; Rainer
------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0C1D0.3F9AECD0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 10 09:58:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA02146; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:56:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:56:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: lindsay@pavestone.com Subject: RE: My set-up (was: 'Rang? EDP? 01V?) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2c February 2, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:48:17 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on dell.pavestone.com/Pavestone(Release 5.0.4a |July 24, 2000) at 04/10/2001 08:48:49 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <91UF8D.A.3d.rBx06@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6277 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com No, Win2000 capitalizes on the dual-processor. The Hammerfall is just lean and fast. I haven't done any diagnostics as to how much extra performance the second CPU is giving me. It was kind of a sweet deal when I bought the PC, so I didn't really worry too much about redundancy/innefficiency of componants. L "Kevin Mulvihill" To: Subject: RE: My set-up (was: 'Rang? EDP? 01V?) 04/09/01 03:57 PM Please respond to Loopers-Delight Well, my general response is "WOW!" That's some studio you're assembling. One other question at this time: > We're in the process of building our new studio space, so we haven't got > everything in its permanant place. What I can tell you is that the > Hammerfall works beutifully under Win2000 (needed to capitalize > on the dual processors)... In what way does the Hammerfall capitalize on the dual processors in your system? Thanks, Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 10 10:46:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA04436; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:44:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:44:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Mike McGary" To: Subject: RE: ACiD loop spam Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:46:51 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <4c.13720f82.28044162@aol.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6278 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've had this for almost 2 weeks. Wicked, wicked stuff. Sonic Foundry had sent out promotional email to registered Acid users. I highly recommend it. Mike McGary > -----Original Message----- > From: Hedewa7@aol.com [mailto:Hedewa7@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 5:59 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: OT: ACiD loop spam > > > heyall. > info, for those interested in this kinda stuff: > my new library of loops-for-ACiD has just been released by Sonic Foundry. > s'called: > david torn:::splattercell:::textural elements. > > i'm sure it's somewhere within www.sonicfoundry.com, as well as > being widely > available via musical intrument retailers all over the place. > > best, > spltrcl / dt > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 10 11:28:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA06677; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:25:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:25:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010409235401.21563.qmail@web5103.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010409235401.21563.qmail@web5103.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 08:21:45 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: Jam Man Footswitch Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id LAA06627 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6279 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com agreed...the midi pedal really opens up the jammie for more fun...much more liquid with the fades and all that. dropping in and out of overdub and fading/stop fade/fade makes for better textural landscapes than you can ever get with the regular footswitch. however, i'm curious...i use the fs300 for another piece of gear. what do each of the switches do on the jammie? i'm guessing tap, reset and ? best, rich >You can use any kind of "non-latching" switch, I just >started to use a Digitech FS300 and works much-much >better that the original Lexicon footswitch, but, the >best thing is to use a MIDI pedalboard ¥cause in that >way you can access all the functions in loop mode >without touching the front knobs and also you can >access some "hidden" functions like control over 3 >different fade times for your loops. >Alx. > >--- Andy Soto wrote: >> >> what kind of footswitch I could use for the Jam >> man? >> > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. >http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 10 11:54:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA07936; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:53:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:53:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:47:27 -0400 Subject: Hanna-Scarlet Manifesto From: Warren Harris To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3069748047_402046_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6280 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3069748047_402046_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Hello All, My artist name is Hanna. I've been using the SP-808 since it came out. I have a full length drum and bass CD out now that was exclusively recorded on the SP-808 as the multi track. I was interviewed for the July issue of ELECTRONIC MUSICIAN magazine 2001 (Pro/File section) on how I recorded the CD which is called SCARLET MANIFESTO. It is on SHADOW records label. If anything it's a collectors item for SP-808 users if you're not into drum and bass. Give it a listen. You can get it at most record stores and online Tower, Borders, Amazon.com, CDnow etc. Hanna-Scarlet Manifesto. (I also have other releases in the house & techno genre) If anyone is interested I'll email you my discography. (all my recordings are on the SP-808) ---late, Hanna --MS_Mac_OE_3069748047_402046_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Hanna-Scarlet Manifesto
Hello All,
My artist name is Hanna.
I've been using the SP-808 since it came out.
I have a full length drum and bass CD out now
that was exclusively recorded on the SP-808 as the
multi track.
I was interviewed for the July issue of ELECTRONIC
MUSICIAN magazine 2001 (Pro/File section) on how I
recorded the CD which is called SCARLET MANIFESTO.
It is on SHADOW records label.
If anything it's a collectors item for SP-808 users if you're
not into drum and bass.
Give it a listen. You can get it at most record stores and online
Tower, Borders, Amazon.com, CDnow etc.
Hanna-Scarlet Manifesto.
(I also have other releases in the house & techno genre)
If anyone is interested I'll email you my discography.
(all my recordings are on the SP-808)
            &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;   ---late,
            &n= bsp;            =             &nbs= p;           Hanna







--MS_Mac_OE_3069748047_402046_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 10 12:14:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA09956; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:11:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:11:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Subject: Re: Hanna-Scarlet Manifesto To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "Curtis P Seiss" Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:57:14 -0400 Message-ID: X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on inetmail1/TWP(Release 5.0.6a |January 17, 2001) at 04/10/2001 11:54:21 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id MAA09744 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6281 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i assume you have to be this moronic to get a record label deal. Hello All, My artist name is Hanna. I've been using the SP-808 since it came out. I have a full length drum and bass CD out now that was exclusively recorded on the SP-808 as the multi track. I was interviewed for the July issue of ELECTRONIC MUSICIAN magazine 2001 (Pro/File section) on how I recorded the CD which is called SCARLET MANIFESTO. It is on SHADOW records label. If anything it's a collectors item for SP-808 users if you're not into drum and bass. Give it a listen. You can get it at most record stores and online Tower, Borders, Amazon.com, CDnow etc. Hanna-Scarlet Manifesto. (I also have other releases in the house & techno genre) If anyone is interested I'll email you my discography. (all my recordings are on the SP-808)                                          ---late,                                                  Hanna From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 10 12:34:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11015; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:31:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:31:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:25:51 -0400 Subject: Re: Hanna-Scarlet Manifesto From: Warren Harris To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id MAA10787 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6282 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com where can i buy your records? > From: "Curtis P Seiss" > Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:57:14 -0400 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Hanna-Scarlet Manifesto > Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:12:51 -0400 > > > i assume you have to be this moronic to get a record label deal. > > > > > Hello All, > My artist name is Hanna. > I've been using the SP-808 since it came out. > I have a full length drum and bass CD out now > that was exclusively recorded on the SP-808 as the > multi track. > I was interviewed for the July issue of ELECTRONIC > MUSICIAN magazine 2001 (Pro/File section) on how I > recorded the CD which is called SCARLET MANIFESTO. > It is on SHADOW records label. > If anything it's a collectors item for SP-808 users if you're > not into drum and bass. > Give it a listen. You can get it at most record stores and online > Tower, Borders, Amazon.com, CDnow etc. > Hanna-Scarlet Manifesto. > (I also have other releases in the house & techno genre) > If anyone is interested I'll email you my discography. > (all my recordings are on the SP-808) >                                          ---late, >                                                  Hanna > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 10 12:41:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11534; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:35:49 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:35:49 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:30:09 -0400 Subject: Re: Hanna-Scarlet Manifesto From: Warren Harris To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id MAA11215 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6283 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com please let me know where i can buy records, i would like to purchase them all > From: "Curtis P Seiss" > Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:57:14 -0400 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Hanna-Scarlet Manifesto > Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:12:51 -0400 > > > i assume you have to be this moronic to get a record label deal. > > > > > Hello All, > My artist name is Hanna. > I've been using the SP-808 since it came out. > I have a full length drum and bass CD out now > that was exclusively recorded on the SP-808 as the > multi track. > I was interviewed for the July issue of ELECTRONIC > MUSICIAN magazine 2001 (Pro/File section) on how I > recorded the CD which is called SCARLET MANIFESTO. > It is on SHADOW records label. > If anything it's a collectors item for SP-808 users if you're > not into drum and bass. > Give it a listen. You can get it at most record stores and online > Tower, Borders, Amazon.com, CDnow etc. > Hanna-Scarlet Manifesto. > (I also have other releases in the house & techno genre) > If anyone is interested I'll email you my discography. > (all my recordings are on the SP-808) >                                          ---late, >                                                  Hanna > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 10 12:47:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12016; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:44:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:44:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: lindsay@pavestone.com Subject: Re: Hanna-Scarlet Manifesto To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2c February 2, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:37:53 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on dell.pavestone.com/Pavestone(Release 5.0.4a |July 24, 2000) at 04/10/2001 11:38:23 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id MAA11894 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6284 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Stop it. Stop it right now. This list, bless the switches, hubs and cables that enable it, is a gracious haven of good music and good will. Please do not spoil it by continuing what could be--and I am not making accusations yet--an atrocious flame war. Commercialism is frowned upon, though self-promotion not always. Ideas are bickered over, but without acrimony. I love this list, though I don't actually contribute that often myself. Still, it's a resource, a release and a retreat for me and probably hundreds of others. Don't spoil it. I will look out for you in the July EM. Good luck in your endeavors. Keep looping, L Warren Harris link.net> cc: Subject: Re: Hanna-Scarlet Manifesto 04/10/01 11:30 AM Please respond to Loopers-Delig ht please let me know where i can buy records, i would like to purchase them all > From: "Curtis P Seiss" > Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:57:14 -0400 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: Hanna-Scarlet Manifesto > Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:12:51 -0400 > > > i assume you have to be this moronic to get a record label deal. > > > > > Hello All, > My artist name is Hanna. > I've been using the SP-808 since it came out. > I have a full length drum and bass CD out now > that was exclusively recorded on the SP-808 as the > multi track. > I was interviewed for the July issue of ELECTRONIC > MUSICIAN magazine 2001 (Pro/File section) on how I > recorded the CD which is called SCARLET MANIFESTO. > It is on SHADOW records label. > If anything it's a collectors item for SP-808 users if you're > not into drum and bass. > Give it a listen. You can get it at most record stores and online > Tower, Borders, Amazon.com, CDnow etc. > Hanna-Scarlet Manifesto. > (I also have other releases in the house & techno genre) > If anyone is interested I'll email you my discography. > (all my recordings are on the SP-808) >                                          ---late, >                                                  Hanna > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 10 13:00:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12825; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:58:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:58:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010410165644.6596.qmail@web5104.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 09:56:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Alx Subject: Re: Jam Man Footswitch To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6285 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --- rich wrote: > however, i'm curious...i use the fs300 for another > piece of gear. > what do each of the switches do on the jammie? i'm > guessing tap, > reset and ? Yes, Tap, Reset and... Tap again, the "C" switch access the same function as the "A" switch but I haven´t had the time to make a special cable which I think it could work like an "Y" cord in which the "C" switch goes to another jack end and into the "function-select" jack and choose one of this to control it with the extra "C" switch, the same for the Vortex, I´ve used the FS300 with it too. Alx. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 10 14:06:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA16890; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:03:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:03:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:57:26 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: Hanna-Scarlet Manifesto To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <01ac01c0c1e7$b509fa30$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 References: X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6286 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i don't usually post "me too" replies, but this one is called for... (besides, what is a loop without repetition anyway?) me too > > Stop it. Stop it right now. > > This list, bless the switches, hubs and cables that enable it, is a > gracious haven of good music and good will. Please do not spoil it by > continuing what could be--and I am not making accusations yet--an atrocious > flame war. Commercialism is frowned upon, though self-promotion not > always. Ideas are bickered over, but without acrimony. I love this list, > though I don't actually contribute that often myself. Still, it's a > resource, a release and a retreat for me and probably hundreds of others. > Don't spoil it. > > I will look out for you in the July EM. Good luck in your endeavors. Keep > looping, > > L > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 10 14:52:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18357; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:47:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:47:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AD354E9.8FB9D00E@bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:46:06 -0400 From: steve Reply-To: studio_t@bellsouth.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: sales spam- mixers/efx References: <3AD21578.6D9F873D@soundsliketree.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6287 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com theres been some talk of using mixers in your rig lately and I have 2 for sale that I have used in a gtr/synth/loop rig, I thought I'd offer them up to see if they can be of good use to someone here Yamaha KM-802, small desktop case, easily fits on rack shelf, very narrow 8 ch's, 2 w/ preamps, the thing that makes this cool is 3 auxes ea w/ indiv control good condition, great for using in gtr amp loop, runs at low levels nicely PV valvex TUBE mixer, this is a really great mixer for instrument racks! 6 ch's, 1 efx snd w/ stereo ret, very warm, very quiet, very clean, highly recomended pushes a power amp very nicely, I used this w/ a marshall 8008 and it sounded great I also have a Korg A2 for sale, this is a great multi efx, functions well as a do it all unit for loops or has stellar performance as a processor in any environment, sonic character head and shoulders above an awful lot of the available processors, I got an A1 so its no longer needed, love the sound of these! if your interested email me OFFLIST for details, a sales notice is one thing but I'll try and make sure this isn't intrusive peace ya'll steve From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 10 19:48:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA30924; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:46:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:46:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Kevin Graves" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: unsubscribe X-Mailer: NeoMail 1.21 X-IPAddress: 63.144.121.251 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: Sender: "Kevin Graves" Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 19:45:12 -0400 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - divide.plusonehost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32132 32150] / [32132 32150] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - divide.plusonehost.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6288 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Kevin Graves DJ/Producer (347) 581-8536 kevin.graves@deckspin.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 10 21:12:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA02338; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:10:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:10:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AD3AE5B.ECB1C228@cloud9.net> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:07:39 -0400 From: Mountain Man X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V01 #201 References: <200104101528.LAA06940@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <-cZcLC.A.aj.B7606@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6289 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Subject: MPX-R1 question Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:40:28 -0700 You don't say what you're controlling, Steve, but if it's an MPX1, I believe (?) that all the parameters that can be controlled by the R1 are controllable via midi. Why not try a midi footpedal, which should be complete quiet. Elby From: Steve Lawson To: Does anyone have any cool ideas for making the R1 foot controller quieter??? I really like the interface (though I do wish that it was a couple of inches shorter so that it would fit in the back of my rack!) but the really loud clicking sounds that happen whenever i press a pedal is really annoying, especially as I play in really quiet settings in studios, and don't want to have to mic my cab in the next room. any ideas of modifying it internally to make it a little quieter? conversely, can anyone suggest another foot controller that will have the same functions that is a) a little bit smaller and b) less noisy! cheers Steve www.steve-lawson.co.uk From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 10 21:22:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA02674; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:21:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:21:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:32:17 -0400 From: Eric vanLuijk X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Personal Reply-To: Eric vanLuijk Organization: VergoSoft Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1232167716.20010410213217@vergosoft.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Fairlight fans MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6290 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi! I am new to this list and I was wondering if there are any Fairlight fans out here? -- Best regards, Eric J. vanLuijk mailto:evanluijk@vergosoft.com "It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education." - Albert Einstein From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 10 23:39:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA08115; Tue, 10 Apr 2001 23:37:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 23:37:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Anthony.Hancock@ing.com.au X-Lotus-FromDomain: ING-MM To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Message-ID: <4A256A2B.00136CAE.00@ingsydhog2.mercantilemutual.com.au> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 13:32:54 +1000 Subject: Digitech ISP33B Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6291 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I recently got a Digitech ISP33B with no manual and no footswitch. I understand the FS300 was the footswitch originally shipped with the ISP. However, can anyone give me an alternate footswitch to use other than going a midi pedal board? All I want is to be able to bypass the effect. At the moment I have I stuck in a Boss LS2 Line Selector. Also do the delays/ reverberations etc tail off when the unit is bypassed or is it a hard bypass - cuts off the effect totally Hope to hear back. Anthony NOTICE The information contained in this electronic mail message is privileged and confidential, and is intended only for use of the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or disclosing it. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 11 00:46:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA10993; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:44:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:44:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010411044318.96610.qmail@web10006.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:43:18 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: MPX-R1 question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <0M5o8.A.PqC.oD-06@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6292 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com If all you need is program change & midi cc, you might like the ART X-15. http://www.artroch.com/products_detail.asp?PRODUCTID=61 The switches make no noise at all. I've had mine for almost 7 years with no problems. The 2 exp pedals come in handy. My only gripes about the X-15 are.... 1) with the exception of the bypass switch, none of the switches can be programmed to act as momentary switches. This prevents me from using it as an EDP controller. 2) the switches are very low profile with a membrane covering. Good for keeping the dust out, bad for feeling your way around while wearing shoes. John --- Steve Lawson wrote: > conversely, can anyone suggest another foot > controller that will have the > same functions that is a) a little bit smaller and > b) less noisy! > > cheers > > Steve > www.steve-lawson.co.uk ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 11 01:51:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA13411; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 01:49:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 01:49:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000c01c0c24b$0561b8c0$4ed6f7a5@com> From: "Alan Imberg" To: "Loopers" Subject: Looping Related Magazine Articles Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:48:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0C210.57E589E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6293 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0C210.57E589E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Loopers: I came across two loop-related articles in two separate publications. = One was a cover story in Signal to Noise about Pauline Oliveros. It = discusses her early work with the SF Tape Music Center as well as recent = works with delay and reverb. The other article, in Magnet, is on Terry = Riley. It too discusses the SF Tape Music Center as well as other works = that are quite loop-oriented. Both these magazines are hard to find. = Here are links to their websites if you're interested in checking them = out. http://www.signaltonoisemagazine.org http://www.magnetmagazine.com ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0C210.57E589E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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I came across two loop-related articles = in two=20 separate publications. One was a cover story in Signal to Noise about = Pauline=20 Oliveros. It discusses her early work with the SF Tape Music Center as = well=20 as recent works with delay and reverb. The other article, in = Magnet,=20 is on Terry Riley. It too discusses the SF Tape Music Center as well=20 as other works that are quite loop-oriented. Both these magazines = are hard=20 to find. Here are links to their websites if you're interested in = checking=20 them out.
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C0C210.57E589E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 11 03:10:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA17264; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 03:08:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 03:08:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <11.12784173.28055c84@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 03:06:44 EDT Subject: Re: JamMan footswitch To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 106 Resent-Message-ID: <0la8DC.A.HNE.pKA16@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6294 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > what kind of footswitch I could use for the Jam man? go to Lexicon Vortex Database it's the same as for the Vortex andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 11 05:21:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA22780; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 05:19:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 05:19:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 05:19:41 -0400 Subject: Yet another EDP question From: Steve Sandberg To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <200104101528.LAA06940@hemlock.violacea.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3069811182_94406_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6295 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3069811182_94406_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Thanks to all for quick replies to my EDP questions, and here's another one -- When I turn "switch quantize" to confirm, I was hoping the lame duck functions would work similarly to when it's set to "cyc" -- the only difference being if I pressed "next loop" and then record, the EDP would wait until I pressed undo to start the next loop. But what actually happens is, as soon as I press record I'm recording the next loop. The confirm press only seems to work for playback. Comments, anyone? --MS_Mac_OE_3069811182_94406_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Yet another EDP question Thanks to all for quick replies to my EDP questions, and her= e's another one --
When I turn "switch quantize" to confirm, I was hoping the lame d= uck functions would work similarly to when it's set to "cyc" -- th= e only difference being if I pressed "next loop" and then record, = the EDP would wait until I pressed undo to start the next loop.  But wh= at actually happens is, as soon as I press record I'm recording the next loo= p.  The confirm press only seems to work for playback.
Comments, anyone? --MS_Mac_OE_3069811182_94406_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 11 13:12:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA15706; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 13:07:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 13:07:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Reply-To: From: "Paul A. Baugher" To: Subject: Groovebox MC-303 users... Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 13:10:17 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01C0C288.C0DDDC40" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: <2y5D1D.A.ExD.P8I16@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6296 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C0C288.C0DDDC40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yet another EDP questionHi, I just got an MC-303 but it was missing the instruction manual... I managed to get a copy of the quick start guide, but it doesn't explain how to create patterns, or assign "tones" to parts etc. If any of you know of any online tutorials, or where I might find an online manual for this box please help! I've been searching through search engine and haven't found any useful resources. Thanks! -pb *---------------------------------------------* Paul A. Baugher - Director Digital Skyline Studios 323 1/2 N. Alice Ave. Rochester Hills, MI 48307 Call: (248) 601-9645 Fax: (248) 601-9646 *---------- www.digitalskyline.com -----------* ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C0C288.C0DDDC40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yet another EDP question
Hi, I=20 just got an MC-303 but it was missing the instruction manual... I = managed to get=20 a copy of the quick start guide, but it doesn't explain how to create = patterns,=20 or assign "tones" to parts etc. If any of you know of any online = tutorials, or=20 where I might find an online manual for this box please help! I've been=20 searching through search engine and haven't found any useful resources.=20 Thanks!
-pb
 

*---------------------------------------------*
Paul A.=20 Baugher - Director
Digital Skyline Studios
323 1/2 N. Alice=20 Ave.
Rochester Hills, MI 48307
Call: (248) 601-9645
Fax: (248)=20 601-9646
*---------- www.digitalskyline.com -----------*=20

------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C0C288.C0DDDC40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 11 14:03:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18272; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 14:00:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 14:00:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB07B@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: so cal gig announcement, er, spam, er . . . Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 13:41:35 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0C2AE.A798C940" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6297 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C2AE.A798C940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" howdy, a so cal semi-looping fest . . . Thursday, 4/12 9:00: Front BC - Brian Christopherson (drums) Jeremy Keller (guitars) Edgardo Ramirez (bass) Rich Yusim (keyboard) 10:00: The Splinter Group - GE Stinson (guitars, loopage) Stuart Liebig (basses, loopage) Kaouru (voice, toys/percussion,loopage) DJ Chowderhead (turntables, beats) 11:00: The Nels Cline Singers - Nels Cline (guitar, loopage) Devon Hoff (bass) Scott Amendola (drums) ** this is nels' new trio. looking forward to hearing them do their thang. Mr. T's Bowl 5621 1/2 Figueroa LA, 90042 323.256.7561 9 PM, $5 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C2AE.A798C940 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" so cal gig announcement, er, spam, er . . .

howdy,

a so cal semi-looping fest . . .


Thursday, 4/12
9:00:
Front BC -
Brian Christopherson (drums)
Jeremy Keller (guitars)
Edgardo Ramirez (bass)
Rich Yusim (keyboard)


10:00:
The Splinter Group -
GE Stinson (guitars, loopage)
Stuart Liebig (basses, loopage)
Kaouru (voice, toys/percussion,loopage)
DJ Chowderhead (turntables, beats)

11:00:
The Nels Cline Singers -
Nels Cline (guitar, loopage)
Devon Hoff (bass)
Scott Amendola (drums)

** this is nels' new trio. looking forward to hearing them do their thang.


Mr. T's Bowl
5621 1/2 Figueroa
LA, 90042
323.256.7561
9 PM, $5

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C2AE.A798C940-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 11 14:49:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20064; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 14:44:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 14:44:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 14:43:23 EDT Subject: ot: gig spam pittsburgh To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bb.d4ca8f3.2805ffcb_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6298 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_bb.d4ca8f3.2805ffcb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the "there's one born every minute tour" continues with the m.klobuchar big band (me and my boxes) at CITY TAVEREN located in ONE OXFORD CENTER in down-town PITTSBURGH tonite april 11 from 6-8 pm.....sorry for the late notice, i will understand if nobody shows up, although you will not be forgiven!.....:).....also on EASTER SUNDAY at 2pm the MKBB will be preforming at the V.A. HOSPITAL in ASPINWAL PA., just up the river from PITTSBURGH, i think im on with some tap-dancers, this could be very neat!.....also some good news!, i am no longer un-employed, i will be tending bar at a new joint opening up in our "CULTURAL DISTRICT" where all the theaters are: HEINZ HALL-THE BENEDUM-O'REILY THEATER-ETC. so instead of dealing with lawyers i will be making drinks for stars, yea sure!.....but who knows, it could be another venue for the MKBB perhaps.....next wed. april 18 i am looking forward to seeing and hearing "PROJECT OBJECT" who will be here in PITTSBURGH (as you can all now see, truely the loop center of the universe) so ANDRE if you read this be on the lookout for me.....stay tuned, times are getting exciting.....michael --part1_bb.d4ca8f3.2805ffcb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit the "there's one born every minute tour" continues with the m.klobuchar big
band (me and my boxes) at CITY TAVEREN located in ONE OXFORD CENTER in
down-town PITTSBURGH tonite april 11 from 6-8 pm.....sorry for the late
notice, i will understand if nobody shows up, although you will not be
forgiven!.....:).....also on EASTER SUNDAY at 2pm the MKBB will be preforming
at the V.A. HOSPITAL in ASPINWAL PA., just up the river from PITTSBURGH, i
think im on with some tap-dancers, this could be very neat!.....also some
good news!, i am no longer un-employed, i will be tending bar at a new joint
opening up in our "CULTURAL DISTRICT" where all the theaters are: HEINZ
HALL-THE BENEDUM-O'REILY THEATER-ETC. so instead of dealing with lawyers i
will be making drinks for stars, yea sure!.....but who knows, it could be
another venue for the MKBB perhaps.....next wed. april 18 i am looking
forward to seeing and hearing "PROJECT OBJECT" who will be here in PITTSBURGH
(as you can all now see,  truely the loop center of the universe) so ANDRE if
you read this be on the lookout for me.....stay tuned, times are getting
exciting.....michael --part1_bb.d4ca8f3.2805ffcb_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 11 15:12:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA21865; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:09:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:09:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4B05@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: free loop mp3 Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 14:09:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0C2BA.DFEDC0A0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6299 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C2BA.DFEDC0A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Howdy, well, I have a enw mp3 which is fairly short to download, it was to be for a movie score, but was never used so I had to do something with it, so if you want to take a listen, yu can get it at http://www.dtguitar.com/chilled_.mp3 . I like it anyway. thanks Denis Denis taaffe denis_aliengtr@geocities.com http://www.dtguitar.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C2BA.DFEDC0A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
 Howdy,
 
 well, I have a enw mp3 which is fairly short to download, it was to be for a movie score, but was never used so I had to do something with it, so if you want to take a listen, yu can get it at  http://www.dtguitar.com/chilled_.mp3 . I like it anyway.
 
thanks
Denis
 
Denis taaffe
http://www.dtguitar.com
------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C2BA.DFEDC0A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 11 15:25:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA22450; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:23:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:23:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1225105577==_ma============" Message-Id: Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 12:21:57 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Chovit Subject: April 12th, Yuri's Night-The World Space Party, The LA Party!!! Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6300 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1225105577==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >Slightly off-topic, but some of you in the LA area might be interested in >this.... -C > > >www.yurisnight.net > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Loretta Hidalgo [mailto:loretta@its.caltech.edu] >Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:43 AM >To: so-cal-space >Subject: April 12th, Yuri's Night-The World Space Party, The LA Party!!! > >Dear So-Cal Space List, >What follows may be construed as advertising- please delete if you do not >wish to receive it. Thank you! >******************************* >Summary: >what-Yuri's Night: The World Space Party (44 cities- 7 continents)- Los >Angeles >when-April 12, 9PM - 2AM >where-The Palace, Hollywood >The best DJs for techno/house/trance >buy tickets at http://la.yurisnight.net/ >10$ before April 1st (15$ after/20$ after 10 at the door!) >who-hosted locally and globally by the U.N. Space Generation Forum, >International Space University alumni, and local young adult volunteers >with the help of Space Frontier Foundation, The Altenklingen Foundation >and many others! >******************************** > >And, for those of you who what all the details: (please pass this on to >anyone you think would be interested! > > >April 12th is the 40th anniversary of Yuri Gagarin becoming the first >human in orbit, and, by strange coincidence, the 20th anniversary of the >first space shuttle launch. > >To celebrate, I (and a bunch of other people) are planning a HUGE >space-party ("Yuri's Night") for April 12. This party is one of 44 >world-wide parties in 24 countries... see >www.yurisnight.net for details. Our aim is >to bring space to people in a new way- through the Hollywood dance scene. > >Our Los Angeles event will be the biggest celebration in the US. >It’s at the legendary Hollywood Palace, just across from the Capital >Records Building, just above Hollywood and Vine. Some of the biggest DJs >in the world will be playing, including D:Fuse, the American tour partner >of Paul Oakenfold; DJ Mars, the trance prodigy from San Francisco; as well >local favorites like Liza Richardson from KCRW and Tony Watson from Wax >Records. > >There will also be space heroes, Hollywood celebrities, footage from other >parties around the world, the lunar rover from "From the Earth to the >Moon" , and the coolest spacesuit-clad go-go dancers you have ever seen! > >All proceeds from this event go to space-related charities: Permission to >Dream gives telescopes to inner-city kids, and Under African Skies sends >space educators to African schools. > >Tickets are easy to get: buy online at la.yurisnight.net, or at >www.stickytickets.com. Or you can call Sticky Tickets at 1.800.464.2275. >If you buy before April 1, tickets are only 10$. > >I really hope you can come (and bring other people too)!!! We’ve >been working hard on this for months and it should truly be a >once-in-lifetime, amazingly-fun experience, all for some really great >causes. > >Please don’t hesitate to contact me if you have any questions . . . >you can also check out our websites at: la.yurisnight.net for info on our >LA event, including directions to the Palace, T-shirt sales, and ticket >details; see www.yurisnight.net, for info on >the global event and the ideas behind it all. > >And please forward this on if you know someone who might also be interested. > >See you April 12!!! > >Loretta Hidalgo >Co-Creator of Yuri's Night- The World Party for Space >loretta@yurisnight.net >626 304-9794 > >PS this also doubles as my birthday party this year. I will be 27 on >April 12th. >I hope you all can come- it should be the biggest yet. > >(click button to go to the site) > >www.yurisnight.net > > > > > > --============_-1225105577==_ma============ Content-Type: text/enriched; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Slightly off-topic, but some of you in the LA area might be interested in this.... -C =20 =20 <www.yurisnight.net =20 =20 Times_New_Roman-----Original Message----- From: Loretta Hidalgo [mailto:loretta@its.caltech.edu] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:43 AM To: so-cal-space Subject: April 12th, Yuri's Night-The World Space Party, The LA Party!!! Dear ArialSo-Cal Space List, ArialWhat follows may be construed as advertising- please delete if you do not wish to receive it. Thank you!=20 ******************************* Summary: Arialwhat-Yuri's Night:=20 The World Space PartyArial (44 cities- 7 continents)- Los Angeles when-April 12, 9PM - 2AM Arialwhere-The Palace, Hollywood The best DJs for techno/house/trance buy tickets at <http://la.yurisnight.net/ Arial10$ before April 1st Arial (15$ after/20$ after 10 at the door!) who-hosted locally and globally by the U.N. Space Generation Forum, International Space University alumni, and local young adult volunteers with the help of Space Frontier Foundation, The Altenklingen Foundation and many others! ******************************** And, for those of you who what all the details: Arial(please pass this on to anyone you think would be interested! =20 April 12th is the 40th anniversary of Yuri Gagarin becoming the first human in orbit, and, by strange coincidence, the=20 Arial20th0000,0000,FFFF anniversary of the first space shuttle launch. 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------=_NextPart_000_0020_01C0C2B1.878C6960-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 11 21:19:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA06267; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:17:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 21:17:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000e01c0c2ef$073ec3a0$11624442@austin.rr.com> From: "Jimmy George" To: References: <002301c0c2ec$3415fae0$f4bf4118@gv.shawcable.net> Subject: Re: Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 20:22:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0C2C5.1E14CF40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6302 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0C2C5.1E14CF40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable huh? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: andrew rickard=20 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 8:02 PM WHAT GOING ON??????????????/ WE R GETTIN' ALL YUR EMALE. I DON'T WANT IT=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0C2C5.1E14CF40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
huh?
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 andrew=20 rickard
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delig= ht.com=20
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 = 8:02=20 PM

WHAT GOING = ON??????????????/
WE R GETTIN' ALL YUR = EMALE.    I=20 DON'T WANT IT
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C0C2C5.1E14CF40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 11 22:16:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA09673; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:13:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:13:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Message-ID: <7f.12ef8f23.280668bb@aol.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:11:07 EDT Subject: Re: ot: gig spam pittsburgh To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 129 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6303 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Nemoguitt, we should talk. I'm in the 'Burgh. Regards, Paul "The Divebombers" From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 11 22:17:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA09811; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:15:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:15:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002801c0c2f6$90fcbdc0$fc518218@we.mediaone.net> From: "Om_Audio" To: "Loopers List" Subject: OT:Links Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 19:16:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6304 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Links to interesting toys- http://www.basslab.com/miditech/index.htm http://www.sidstation.com/ http://www.marcandella.ch/WG3/Miditech/Midicontrol/MT_Midicontrol.htm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 11 23:29:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA12847; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 23:26:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 23:26:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7BAC931E644ED211A90C00805F65CB64093F4B0D@georgia.exchange.indiana.edu> From: "Taaffe, Denis G" To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:25:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0C300.4A51E030" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6305 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C300.4A51E030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" gang of fairies?! -----Original Message----- From: andrew rickard [mailto:gangafairy@home.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 8:02 PM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: WHAT GOING ON??????????????/ WE R GETTIN' ALL YUR EMALE. I DON'T WANT IT ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C300.4A51E030 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
gang of fairies?!
-----Original Message-----
From: andrew rickard [mailto:gangafairy@home.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 8:02 PM
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject:

WHAT GOING ON??????????????/
WE R GETTIN' ALL YUR EMALE.    I DON'T WANT IT
------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C300.4A51E030-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 11 23:34:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA13045; Wed, 11 Apr 2001 23:32:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 23:32:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001901c0c301$def8ba00$69f5d58d@itd.umich.edu> From: "Darcy Clark" To: Subject: Lexicon Jamman and Vortex units for sale Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 23:37:16 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6306 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Selling up my little collection of Lexicon units : Lexicon Jamman 32sec http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1423495000 Lexicon Vortex http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1423505554 cheers, Darcy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 12 00:15:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA15069; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 00:12:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 00:12:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 00:00:52 -0400 To: "Art List" From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Video Performance @ Trance Dance 4.14.01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6307 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Folks, I'll be doing video improvisations as part of a Participatory Dance event called Trance Dance on Saturday night. So come shake your butt and tickle your eyeballs:) I don't know the admission price, but I'm sure its not huge. The last one was really fun, and had both live music and a DJ spinning trancy world-beat. Sat. April 14th, 8:00 - 10:30 PM First Congregational Church 11 Garden St. Cambridge, MA (Harvard Sq.) black light instillation, art instillation A sacred space celebrating the transformational power of music, dance and art and the power of community. To dance then,is to pray, to meditate, to enter into communion with the larger dance, which is the universe. **Jean Houston -- "Once the search is in progress, something will be found" -- Brian Eno and Peter Schmidt Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 12 01:07:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA17287; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 01:04:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 01:04:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AD53794.271A788A@minds-eye.org> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:05:24 -0700 From: Kevin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: loop Subject: PMC 10 Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6308 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello, I have a line on a PMC 10 Midi controller and I was wondering how useful this is without the external programming pad. I'm not sure if this has one or not and I was told by Digitech at one time that they were pretty useless without them. Of course, I also recall mention of I believe its Raymond, a PMC 10 editing program. What sort of interface/connection do you have to have to use this (my computer will receive MIDI commands (at least using one cheap synth program at least). Thanks in advance Kevin From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 12 01:28:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA18205; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 01:26:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 01:26:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.12.57.157] From: "nathaniel wilson" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE:mailing list:ATT looper!!!!!!!take me off Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 01:25:16 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Apr 2001 05:25:16.0627 (UTC) FILETIME=[F5277230:01C0C310] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

sounds like a prob- i dont know how i got on this mailing list or how to get off of it
sounds like cool equip but not my speciality

>From: "Taaffe, Denis G"
>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'"
>Subject: RE:
>Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:25:58 -0500
>
>gang of fairies?!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: andrew rickard [mailto:gangafairy@home.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 8:02 PM
>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>Subject:
>
>
>WHAT GOING ON??????????????/
>WE R GETTIN' ALL YUR EMALE. I DON'T WANT IT
>

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 12 02:18:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA20764; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 02:16:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 02:16:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010412061540.55138.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 23:15:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Subject: Re: PMC 10 Question To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <3AD53794.271A788A@minds-eye.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6310 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I bought a pmc-10 that didn't have a programming pad. Dave Brillhart over at the windsynth mailing list helped me out get my pc hooked up to raymond. Check out posts in the archives at: http://lists.mun.ca/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0003D&L=wind&P=R1344 http://lists.mun.ca/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0003D&L=wind&P=R3207 http://lists.mun.ca/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0003D&L=wind&P=R3456 http://lists.mun.ca/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0003D&L=wind&P=R6463 http://lists.mun.ca/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0003D&L=wind&P=R6485 --- Kevin wrote: > Hello, > > I have a line on a PMC 10 Midi controller and I was > wondering how useful > this is without the external programming pad. ===== Stephen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 12 02:43:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA21493; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 02:42:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 02:42:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AD54F3C.EBD2AB90@ripco.com> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 01:46:31 -0500 From: Eric Leonardson Reply-To: eleon@ripco.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Head Poison References: <200104120507.BAA17472@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <0_qug.A.-KF.S4U16@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6311 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Loopers-Delight-d-request@loopers-delight.com wrote: > Subject: so cal gig announcement, er, spam, er . . . > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 13:41:35 -0400 > From: "Liebig, Steuart A." > To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" > > Hi Steuart, I like the name Splinter Group. It's also the name of the studio I do a lot of my projects at here in Chicago. Have a good show at Mr. T's. Speaking of Chicago, if there's a any Looper's list members in the area perhaps you'd like to catch the one of the last theater performances I'm doing this year with Plasticene. It's been described as "hardcore techno, trip-hop" but it's multi-dimensinal, e.g., there's a lot of lowercase sound I've designed and composed, and create for it (both recorded and real-time). I do the live stuff on my Springboard through an EDP and MidiVerb III. The show's called Head Poison. The theater is physical not verbal, so the sounds have a lot of aesthetic and temporal room to fill the space, and the sound system at the Storefront Theater can handle all the dynamic extremes. Here's our promotional spam on it: "Stunning..." Sun-Times "Mindblowing..." Free Press "Daring... Very funny..." Reader "Intense and demanding..." Tribune "Bizarrely poetic... Has to be experienced." New City HEAD POISON is a thrilling theatrical adventure into a mind-altering world. Suspense, shock, and comedy convolve in this hilarious and compelling study of the damage we do and wreckage we leave behind. Performed and Created by Mark Comiskey, Dominic Conti, Julia Fabris, Sharon Göpfert, and Brain Shaw Directed by Dexter Bullard Music by Eric Leonardson Lights by Carrie Kennedy Costumes by Lori Hall-Araujo Rigging by Mark Wittiveen Set Engineered by Scott Kesser Stage Managed by Carrie Kennedy Tech Support by David Schulte PR by David Bryson Conditioning Help by Kristy Parsons At THE STOREFRONT THEATRE 66 East Randolph Street in Chicago. Thursday, Friday and Saturday at 8pm Tickets: 312.742.8497 Tickets are $15 for all seats. Or visit Hot-Tix. More info: 312.409.0400 or plasticene.com Lastly, I'd like that Shane Radtke at Gibson tech for getting that in EDP replacement input knob to me just in time. If you're reading this Shane, email me and get you a comp to the show. I'd also like to address to technical weirdness I experienced with the EDP later which may have lead to the damage/destruction of some hardy loudspeakers. Best regards, Eric -- sound thinking: http://pages.ripco.net/~eleon/ upcoming dates: http://pages.ripco.net/~eleon/whatsnew.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 12 04:24:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA25682; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 04:21:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 04:21:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 03:15:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0C328.AC0691D6" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6312 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C328.AC0691D6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Someone's obviously subscribed to Looper Delight for you and what sort of e-mail address is gangafairy? -----Original Message----- From: andrew rickard [mailto:gangafairy@home.com] Sent: 12 April 2001 02:02 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: WHAT GOING ON??????????????/ WE R GETTIN' ALL YUR EMALE. I DON'T WANT IT ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C328.AC0691D6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Someone's obviously subscribed to Looper Delight for you and what sort of e-mail address is gangafairy?
-----Original Message-----
From: andrew rickard [mailto:gangafairy@home.com]
Sent: 12 April 2001 02:02
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject:

WHAT GOING ON??????????????/
WE R GETTIN' ALL YUR EMALE.    I DON'T WANT IT
------_=_NextPart_001_01C0C328.AC0691D6-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 12 04:32:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA26182; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 04:31:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 04:31:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "omjn" To: Subject: RE: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:29:57 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0C36D.D0404B60" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6313 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0C36D.D0404B60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit something to do with the merry iguana? and what sort of e-mail address is gangafairy? EMALE. I DON'T WANT IT ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0C36D.D0404B60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
something to do with the merry=20 iguana?
and what sort = of e-mail=20 address is gangafairy?
EMALE.    I DON'T WANT IT=20
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0C36D.D0404B60-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 12 05:00:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA27907; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 04:59:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 04:59:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001401c0c32e$885bbf80$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:56:57 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01C0C336.E90A71C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6314 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C0C336.E90A71C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Perhaps it's a Gangsta' Fairy - one should watch out for them, they = carry wands AND they're violent. From: omjn=20 something to do with the merry iguana? and what sort of e-mail address is gangafairy? EMALE. I DON'T WANT IT=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C0C336.E90A71C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Perhaps it's a Gangsta' Fairy - one should = watch out=20 for them, they carry wands AND they're violent.
 
From: omjn=20
something to do with the merry=20 iguana?
and what sort = of e-mail=20 address is gangafairy?
EMALE.    I DON'T WANT IT=20
------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C0C336.E90A71C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 12 06:15:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA30562; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 06:13:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 06:13:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <064a01c0c339$889cbf20$9aad5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: Subject: Re: many questions Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 06:15:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <7cFgO.A.qaH.d-X16@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6315 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Duke To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Date: Sunday, April 08, 2001 4:59 AM Subject: many questions >I have delurked and have a few q's for ya'll. >1. I want to buy a Minidisc recorder for my son. I >love my Sharp that I got a couple of yrs ago but am >not sure what brand has the most bang for the buck >now. the new Sharp MDSR60 looks pretty good >specially for the price. 180$. i am not a wealthy >man btw. Hi Jeff, I recently bought the SONY MZ-R70 from http://etronics.com at a great price. I like it very much but you cannot adjust the input volume while recording. You either have to stop, adjust, and start, or you resort to using the AGC circuit. Cheers, Bill billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html ============================================================================ Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, send email to: emusic-wdiy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 12 11:53:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09785; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:48:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:48:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [205.174.185.114] From: "Paolo Valladolid" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: The Orb Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:47:30 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Apr 2001 15:47:30.0937 (UTC) FILETIME=[E2230E90:01C0C367] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6316 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I wake up this morning to find out The Orb will be playing in town (Tampa) tomorrow night. Dunno if they loop in real time live, but they were definitely among the first artists I really listened to when I first discovered loop-based music. Really looking forward to this. If you live in the US, then they might be coming to your town before too long. Paolo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 12 11:55:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA09936; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:52:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:52:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [172.146.241.248] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE:mailing list:ATT looper!!!!!!!take me off Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:50:01 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_afc_685_466" Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Apr 2001 15:50:01.0293 (UTC) FILETIME=[3BC18FD0:01C0C368] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6317 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_afc_685_466 Content-Type: text/html

Ah it is destiny......you are to become a LOOPER and you didn't know it

the Univerce works in Mysterious ways....Welcome we will guide you with love and compassion.

>From: "nathaniel wilson"
>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>Subject: RE:mailing list:ATT looper!!!!!!!take me off
>Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 01:25:16 -0400
>

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------=_NextPart_000_afc_685_466 Content-Type: message/rfc822 >From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 11 22:27:51 2001 Received: from [207.228.238.9] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id MHotMailBC9E877E00B940043265CFE4EE0904EC0; Wed Apr 11 22:26:27 2001 Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA18037; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 01:25:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 01:25:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.12.57.157] From: "nathaniel wilson" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE:mailing list:ATT looper!!!!!!!take me off Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 01:25:16 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Apr 2001 05:25:16.0627 (UTC) FILETIME=[F5277230:01C0C310] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6309 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

sounds like a prob- i dont know how i got on this mailing list or how to get off of it
sounds like cool equip but not my speciality

>From: "Taaffe, Denis G"
>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'"
>Subject: RE:
>Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 22:25:58 -0500
>
>gang of fairies?!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: andrew rickard [mailto:gangafairy@home.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 8:02 PM
>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>Subject:
>
>
>WHAT GOING ON??????????????/
>WE R GETTIN' ALL YUR EMALE. I DON'T WANT IT
>

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------=_NextPart_000_afc_685_466-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 12 12:07:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11520; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:04:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:04:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: dwyatt@mail.apple.com (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:02:52 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Doug Wyatt Subject: Re: The Orb Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6318 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 11:47 -0400 4/12/01, Paolo Valladolid wrote: >I wake up this morning to find out The Orb will be playing in town >(Tampa) tomorrow night. Dunno if they loop in real time live, but >they were definitely among the first artists I really listened to >when I first discovered loop-based music. > >Really looking forward to this. If you live in the US, then they >might be coming to your town before too long. Yes, they're here in San Francisco on 4/27: Maritime Hill 450 Harrison @ 1st, SF www.maritimehall.com 415-974-0634 Doug -- Doug Wyatt doug@sonosphere.com http://www.sonosphere.com/ "Those who say it can't be done are usually interrupted by those doing it." -- Unknown From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 12 12:48:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA12590; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:45:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:45:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:43:17 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: The Orb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id MAA12550 Resent-Message-ID: <_RpdHC.A.VED.wsd16@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6319 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Doug Wyatt wrote: >At 11:47 -0400 4/12/01, Paolo Valladolid wrote: >>I wake up this morning to find out The Orb will be playing in town >>(Tampa) tomorrow night. Dunno if they loop in real time live, but >>they were definitely among the first artists I really listened to >>when I first discovered loop-based music. >> >>Really looking forward to this. If you live in the US, then they >>might be coming to your town before too long. > > >Yes, they're here in San Francisco on 4/27: NYC on the 17th: Their last album was not good at all: has my review. has a quick pointer to another Alex Patterson project. ...electronic a cappella madness ......... ...extreme internet radio ... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 12 12:55:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA13032; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:52:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:52:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.174.121.53] From: "Patrick Bailey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The Orb Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:51:36 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Apr 2001 16:51:36.0441 (UTC) FILETIME=[D63C6690:01C0C370] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6320 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've seen the Orb a few times, they are hit and miss. I saw them once up in the mountains(Big Bear CA USA), they played a 3 and a half hour set from like 3am to 6am when the sun was coming up over the mountains, it was amazing, one of the best live performances I've ever experienced. Dr. LX was on a bunch of tables most of the time while Andy Hughes I believe was manipulating/mixing samples/loops/fx. Then again I saw them on their Orblivion tour and it didn't seem like they could get too much happening. Definitely worth checking out though. They're coming to So. CA Apr. 28th at Coachella festival, www.coachella.com ---I think? >From: Doug Wyatt >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: The Orb >Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:02:52 -0700 > >At 11:47 -0400 4/12/01, Paolo Valladolid wrote: >>I wake up this morning to find out The Orb will be playing in town >>(Tampa) tomorrow night. Dunno if they loop in real time live, but >>they were definitely among the first artists I really listened to >>when I first discovered loop-based music. >> >>Really looking forward to this. If you live in the US, then they >>might be coming to your town before too long. > > >Yes, they're here in San Francisco on 4/27: > >Maritime Hill >450 Harrison @ 1st, SF >www.maritimehall.com >415-974-0634 > >Doug > >-- >Doug Wyatt doug@sonosphere.com >http://www.sonosphere.com/ > >"Those who say it can't be done are usually interrupted by those >doing it." > -- Unknown > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 12 13:28:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA14812; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:25:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 13:25:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [204.253.195.194] From: "matt davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The Orb Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:24:32 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Apr 2001 17:24:32.0539 (UTC) FILETIME=[701506B0:01C0C375] Resent-Message-ID: <_ZSNw.A.fmD.vTe16@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6321 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have a feeling that they'd be nowhere as good now as they were before 1996 or so. They have really changed their style since then. I really liked what they did up to the "Orbus Terrarum" CD, and I think the "Pomme Fritz" CD is one of the best electronic CD's to come out in the 90's. For an interesting discovery, check out The Tape-Beatles. In 1991, the Orb got a hold of their first two tapes, and have been integrating the material from it into their shows. You'd be surprised by how many things you once thought were created by the Orb, when in fact, they were just playing a Tape Beatles tape. The first few minutes of "Live 93" are a perfect example. http://pwp.detritus.net/ Matt >From: "Patrick Bailey" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: The Orb >Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:51:36 -0700 > >I've seen the Orb a few times, they are hit and miss. I saw them once up in >the mountains(Big Bear CA USA), they played a 3 and a half hour set from >like 3am to 6am when the sun was coming up over the mountains, it was >amazing, one of the best live performances I've ever experienced. Dr. LX >was >on a bunch of tables most of the time while Andy Hughes I believe was >manipulating/mixing samples/loops/fx. Then again I saw them on their >Orblivion tour and it didn't seem like they could get too much happening. >Definitely worth checking out though. They're coming to So. CA Apr. 28th at >Coachella festival, > >www.coachella.com ---I think? > > >>From: Doug Wyatt >>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>Subject: Re: The Orb >>Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:02:52 -0700 >> >>At 11:47 -0400 4/12/01, Paolo Valladolid wrote: >>>I wake up this morning to find out The Orb will be playing in town >>>(Tampa) tomorrow night. Dunno if they loop in real time live, but >>>they were definitely among the first artists I really listened to >>>when I first discovered loop-based music. >>> >>>Really looking forward to this. If you live in the US, then they >>>might be coming to your town before too long. >> >> >>Yes, they're here in San Francisco on 4/27: >> >>Maritime Hill >>450 Harrison @ 1st, SF >>www.maritimehall.com >>415-974-0634 >> >>Doug >> >>-- >>Doug Wyatt doug@sonosphere.com >>http://www.sonosphere.com/ >> >>"Those who say it can't be done are usually interrupted by those >>doing it." >> -- Unknown >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 12 15:25:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA19724; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:21:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:21:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.174.121.53] From: "Patrick Bailey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The Orb Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:20:40 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Apr 2001 19:20:40.0345 (UTC) FILETIME=[A937D890:01C0C385] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6322 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yeah, I agree, their latest material, Orblivion and the new(released) Cydonia are nowhere near their earlier efforts such as Pomme Fritz, my favorite as well. Their remixes are usually better than their own tracks. I've been on the lookout for that Tape-Beatles stuff, never seem to come across it. Any info? >From: "matt davignon" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: The Orb >Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:24:32 -0700 > >I have a feeling that they'd be nowhere as good now as they were before >1996 >or so. They have really changed their style since then. I really liked what >they did up to the "Orbus Terrarum" CD, and I think the "Pomme Fritz" CD is >one of the best electronic CD's to come out in the 90's. > >For an interesting discovery, check out The Tape-Beatles. In 1991, the Orb >got a hold of their first two tapes, and have been integrating the material >from it into their shows. You'd be surprised by how many things you once >thought were created by the Orb, when in fact, they were just playing a >Tape >Beatles tape. The first few minutes of "Live 93" are a perfect example. > >http://pwp.detritus.net/ > >Matt > >>From: "Patrick Bailey" >>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>Subject: Re: The Orb >>Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:51:36 -0700 >> >>I've seen the Orb a few times, they are hit and miss. I saw them once up >>in >>the mountains(Big Bear CA USA), they played a 3 and a half hour set from >>like 3am to 6am when the sun was coming up over the mountains, it was >>amazing, one of the best live performances I've ever experienced. Dr. LX >>was >>on a bunch of tables most of the time while Andy Hughes I believe was >>manipulating/mixing samples/loops/fx. Then again I saw them on their >>Orblivion tour and it didn't seem like they could get too much happening. >>Definitely worth checking out though. They're coming to So. CA Apr. 28th >>at >>Coachella festival, >> >>www.coachella.com ---I think? >> >> >>>From: Doug Wyatt >>>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>Subject: Re: The Orb >>>Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:02:52 -0700 >>> >>>At 11:47 -0400 4/12/01, Paolo Valladolid wrote: >>>>I wake up this morning to find out The Orb will be playing in town >>>>(Tampa) tomorrow night. Dunno if they loop in real time live, but >>>>they were definitely among the first artists I really listened to >>>>when I first discovered loop-based music. >>>> >>>>Really looking forward to this. If you live in the US, then they >>>>might be coming to your town before too long. >>> >>> >>>Yes, they're here in San Francisco on 4/27: >>> >>>Maritime Hill >>>450 Harrison @ 1st, SF >>>www.maritimehall.com >>>415-974-0634 >>> >>>Doug >>> >>>-- >>>Doug Wyatt doug@sonosphere.com >>>http://www.sonosphere.com/ >>> >>>"Those who say it can't be done are usually interrupted by those >>>doing it." >>> -- Unknown >>> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 12 15:25:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA19957; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:23:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:23:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.174.121.53] From: "Patrick Bailey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The Orb Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 12:22:37 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Apr 2001 19:22:38.0009 (UTC) FILETIME=[EF59F290:01C0C385] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6323 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com okay, duh, I got your link, matt >From: "matt davignon" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: The Orb >Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:24:32 -0700 > >I have a feeling that they'd be nowhere as good now as they were before >1996 >or so. They have really changed their style since then. I really liked what >they did up to the "Orbus Terrarum" CD, and I think the "Pomme Fritz" CD is >one of the best electronic CD's to come out in the 90's. > >For an interesting discovery, check out The Tape-Beatles. In 1991, the Orb >got a hold of their first two tapes, and have been integrating the material >from it into their shows. You'd be surprised by how many things you once >thought were created by the Orb, when in fact, they were just playing a >Tape >Beatles tape. The first few minutes of "Live 93" are a perfect example. > >http://pwp.detritus.net/ > >Matt > >>From: "Patrick Bailey" >>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>Subject: Re: The Orb >>Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:51:36 -0700 >> >>I've seen the Orb a few times, they are hit and miss. I saw them once up >>in >>the mountains(Big Bear CA USA), they played a 3 and a half hour set from >>like 3am to 6am when the sun was coming up over the mountains, it was >>amazing, one of the best live performances I've ever experienced. Dr. LX >>was >>on a bunch of tables most of the time while Andy Hughes I believe was >>manipulating/mixing samples/loops/fx. Then again I saw them on their >>Orblivion tour and it didn't seem like they could get too much happening. >>Definitely worth checking out though. They're coming to So. CA Apr. 28th >>at >>Coachella festival, >> >>www.coachella.com ---I think? >> >> >>>From: Doug Wyatt >>>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >>>Subject: Re: The Orb >>>Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 09:02:52 -0700 >>> >>>At 11:47 -0400 4/12/01, Paolo Valladolid wrote: >>>>I wake up this morning to find out The Orb will be playing in town >>>>(Tampa) tomorrow night. Dunno if they loop in real time live, but >>>>they were definitely among the first artists I really listened to >>>>when I first discovered loop-based music. >>>> >>>>Really looking forward to this. If you live in the US, then they >>>>might be coming to your town before too long. >>> >>> >>>Yes, they're here in San Francisco on 4/27: >>> >>>Maritime Hill >>>450 Harrison @ 1st, SF >>>www.maritimehall.com >>>415-974-0634 >>> >>>Doug >>> >>>-- >>>Doug Wyatt doug@sonosphere.com >>>http://www.sonosphere.com/ >>> >>>"Those who say it can't be done are usually interrupted by those >>>doing it." >>> -- Unknown >>> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com >> > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 12 17:50:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA25481; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:47:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:47:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [205.174.185.114] From: "Paolo Valladolid" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The Orb Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:45:40 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Apr 2001 21:45:41.0038 (UTC) FILETIME=[EB3C3CE0:01C0C399] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6324 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com For an interesting discovery, check out The Tape-Beatles. In 1991, the Orb got a hold of their first two tapes, and have been integrating the material from it into their shows. You'd be surprised by how many things you once thought were created by the Orb, when in fact, they were just playing a Tape Beatles tape. The first few minutes of "Live 93" are a perfect example. http://pwp.detritus.net/ Matt Don't know how many already know this, but much of "Little Fluffy Clouds" uses "Electric Counterpoint", a Steve Reich piece performed by Pat Metheny on multitracked guitars and basses. I believe most of it is from the third movement, but cleverly edited from the original 6/8 time to fit into 4/4. Appreciate the heads up from Tom about their new album. I haven't bought anything that came out after Orblivion, actually. Still, I've never seen them live before and look forward to the experience. Paolo _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 12 18:09:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA26995; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:03:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:03:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.174.121.53] From: "Patrick Bailey" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The Orb Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:02:03 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Apr 2001 22:02:03.0939 (UTC) FILETIME=[35170730:01C0C39C] Resent-Message-ID: <7sG2VD.A.zjG.7Xi16@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6325 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com What about "slug dub" from Orbus Terrarum? They take the organ figure from Miles' "Calypso Frelimo". We could go about this all day long. >From: "Paolo Valladolid" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: The Orb >Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 17:45:40 -0400 > >For an interesting discovery, check out The Tape-Beatles. In 1991, the Orb >got a hold of their first two tapes, and have been integrating the material >from it into their shows. You'd be surprised by how many things you once >thought were created by the Orb, when in fact, they were just playing a >Tape >Beatles tape. The first few minutes of "Live 93" are a perfect example. > >http://pwp.detritus.net/ > >Matt > >Don't know how many already know this, but much of "Little Fluffy Clouds" >uses "Electric Counterpoint", a Steve Reich piece performed by Pat Metheny >on multitracked guitars and basses. I believe most of it is from the third >movement, but cleverly edited from the original 6/8 time to fit into 4/4. > >Appreciate the heads up from Tom about their new album. I haven't bought >anything that came out after Orblivion, actually. Still, I've never seen >them live before and look forward to the experience. > >Paolo > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 12 19:09:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA27978; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:50:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:50:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003d01c0c3a2$d80ca700$c2b84e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: "Stephen P. Goodman" , Subject: Re: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:49:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01C0C381.4EF2B3E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6326 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C0C381.4EF2B3E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My guess is a "ferry 'cross the Ganges," but that's probably just my = Indo-bias.=20 -----Original Message----- From: Stephen P. Goodman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com = Date: Thursday, April 12, 2001 5:03 AM Subject: Re:=20 =20 =20 Perhaps it's a Gangsta' Fairy - one should watch out for them, they = carry wands AND they're violent. =20 From: omjn=20 something to do with the merry iguana? and what sort of e-mail address is gangafairy? EMALE. I DON'T WANT IT=20 ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C0C381.4EF2B3E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My guess is a "ferry 'cross the Ganges," but that's = probably just=20 my Indo-bias.
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------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C0C381.4EF2B3E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 12 19:15:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA29676; Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:13:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:13:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001c01c0c3a6$0e0d1620$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: Gig Spam Deluxe Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 00:12:09 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6327 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The first official public appearance on my part in the UK is at hand! Critical Mass is a weekend-long event at St Luke's Church in Holloway, North London. For details about it see http://www.thecriticalmass.com - And as far as I'm informed presently I'll be playing in two time slots, first at 7pm in conjunction with a didgeridoo player (or two); then another set at 9pm (on my own, I was originally told). While the exact scheduling may vary it is indeed happening tomorrow night, my fellow loopophologists. If you're in the area, come on in! I apologize for the short notice but the details were worked out over the past week - partially evidenced by my being billed as "Steve Goodman". No, I'm not going to play "The City of New Orleans". :P Admission is through the format of booking - via fax if possible - and should be viewed at the Booking section of the site. Cheers and I hope to see yez there! Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! http://www.mp3.com/StephenGoodman * New MP3 Releases! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 13 18:40:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA11994; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:30:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 18:30:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [204.253.195.194] From: "matt davignon" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: CT-Acoustic now available Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 15:29:09 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Apr 2001 22:29:09.0571 (UTC) FILETIME=[28748930:01C0C469] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6328 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey everyone, Just letting you guys know that the newest production from the CT-Project is now available. CT-Unplugged Contains acoustic music from the following members (many of whom are from Loopers Delight): javier miranda lance glover jon southwood claude voit michael klobuchar todd madson tim nelson bobdog barrett mcdevitt rob switzer travis weller the ortones jeff mcleod matt davignon scott kungha drengsen miko biffle The cost is $5, including postage for the USA. International orders please add $3. If you're interested, email me off the list (mattdavignon@hotmail.com, don't just hit "reply"). I'll tell you where to send the check or well concealed cash, and you can tell me your mailing address. The mp3's will soon be available at www.loopxchange.com at this specific link: http://music.columbia.edu/%7Ececenter/mhl21/ct/works.html Right now, the mp3's of all the other completed CT Projects are available. Thanks, Matt Davignon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 13 20:07:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA16071; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 20:06:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 20:06:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010414000546.16470.qmail@web905.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:05:46 -0700 (PDT) From: sean conlon Subject: Anyone interested in a jam man? To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <2eC9_C.A.J5D.bR516@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6329 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have a jam man I am not getting much use out of that I was thinking of selling. I was kind of curious to see what they are going for these days. I know its worth something as It seems they are quite scarce and somewhat collectible. Is anyone interested? Take care, Sean __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 13 20:32:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA16585; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 20:31:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 20:31:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AD79A33.1FF4F7EB@zerocrossing.net> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:30:43 -0700 X-Sybari-Trust: a1d7c087 050014e1 00000000 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Anyone interested in a jam man? References: <20010414000546.16470.qmail@web905.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6330 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com get rid of it quick. It's fairly rare, but now the Echoplex Digital Pro is available and a company called Electrix may be releasing a similar product in June. You my still be able to get a good price for it. Mark sean conlon wrote: > I have a jam man I am not getting much use out of > that I was thinking of selling. I was kind of curious > to see what they are going for these days. I know its > worth something as It seems they are quite scarce and > somewhat collectible. Is anyone interested? > > Take care, Sean > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 13 20:39:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA16894; Fri, 13 Apr 2001 20:37:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 20:37:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002501c0c47a$f61b1c80$0e2078d8@prelayomb> From: "Gary Lehmann" To: References: <20010414000546.16470.qmail@web905.mail.yahoo.com> <3AD79A33.1FF4F7EB@zerocrossing.net> Subject: Re: Anyone interested in a jam man? Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:36:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6331 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This may be good advice. I sold mine for $600 a year ago, but when the Repeater finally (!) gets released, it will drive down the asking price of existing loopers. Besides, IMHO the Jammer has serious limitation (although loads of folks on this list don't seem to have a problem making it do tricks--hi Steve!) Gary PS--you might still be able to get $600 for it--I haven't been following it on ebay lately but Alto seems to get $700 for the Echoplex with no problem. G > get rid of it quick. It's fairly rare, but now the Echoplex Digital Pro > is available and a company called Electrix may be releasing a similar > product in June. You my still be able to get a good price for it. > > Mark > > sean conlon wrote: > > > I have a jam man I am not getting much use out of > > that I was thinking of selling. I was kind of curious > > to see what they are going for these days. I know its > > worth something as It seems they are quite scarce and > > somewhat collectible. Is anyone interested? > > > > Take care, Sean > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 14 10:21:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA09355; Sat, 14 Apr 2001 10:17:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 10:17:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: matthias@pop.e-net.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 11:20:55 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: Yet another EDP question Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6332 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Thanks to all for quick replies to my EDP questions, and here's another one -- >When I turn "switch quantize" to confirm, I was hoping the lame duck >functions would work similarly to when it's set to "cyc" -- the only >difference being if I pressed "next loop" and then record, the EDP >would wait until I pressed undo to start the next loop. But what >actually happens is, as soon as I press record I'm recording the >next loop. The confirm press only seems to work for playback. >Comments, anyone? In your case, Record IS the confirm press. In Cyc, the switching would happen at the next cyle end, while in Cnf it waits until you decide with a key what is going to happen in the next loop. -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 14 12:47:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA14054; Sat, 14 Apr 2001 12:44:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 12:44:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 09:42:44 -0700 From: Tetsu Matsuo Subject: Live looping newbie... X-Sender: tmatsuo@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6333 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey Y'all, I've been trying to loop with a DL-4 for some time now, but since my band plays straight time rock/funk/soul I'm having a hard time. It seems like a lot of loopers do more experimental cool-trippy music which allows flexibility in looping. While I'd still use my DL-4 for this, I need something a little more time reliable... My question is - I'd like to be able to have my drummer start/play my loops with drum triggers. That way he'd be responsible for my loops instead of my toes. So he could record me on the "1" and hit the trigger again for the next "1" thus keeping my loop in synch with what he's playing. (first hit = record, second hit = play, subsequent hits = play, until we want to stop it with a hit = stop) Besides the repeater (not yet out), and oberheim (too pricey), what can I use for midi record/play? I'm not looking for anything complicated like multiple loops, layering, timeclock synching, etc...just one loop at a time. I was really hoping the Boss SP-303 would allow this, but I believe the midi is only for synching to a sequencer. Any other options? Thanks! chicken. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 14 12:55:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA14357; Sat, 14 Apr 2001 12:54:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 12:54:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Jhsidlo@aol.com Message-ID: <71.c83769a.2809da5e@aol.com> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 12:52:46 EDT Subject: Re: CT-Acoustic now available To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6334 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've heard the CT Acoustic. I like it because of the diversity of instruments (i.e. piano, saxophone). Very well done! Best, James From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 14 13:10:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA15847; Sat, 14 Apr 2001 13:08:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 13:08:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <08be01c0c505$8d947900$9aad5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" Subject: Playlist for EMUSIC #212 Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 13:08:03 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6335 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com [ Best viewed with a fixed spacing font. ] EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. Show #212 April 12, 2001. RECAP: On this show, I began the month-long focus on Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA16488; Sat, 14 Apr 2001 13:31:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 13:31:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002c01c0c508$b3a948c0$d7964e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: CT-Acoustic now available Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 13:01:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6336 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'll second that! Great work by everyone -- some amazing and very creative material. Hard to believe it's all acoustic! another James -----Original Message----- From: Jhsidlo@aol.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Saturday, April 14, 2001 12:55 PM Subject: Re: CT-Acoustic now available I've heard the CT Acoustic. I like it because of the diversity of instruments (i.e. piano, saxophone). Very well done! Best, James From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 14 21:08:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA00761; Sat, 14 Apr 2001 21:06:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 21:06:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [64.161.26.202] From: "matt davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: CT-Acoustic now available Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 18:05:18 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Apr 2001 01:05:18.0350 (UTC) FILETIME=[231882E0:01C0C548] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6337 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks for the good word you guys! >From: "James Pokorny" >Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 13:01:38 -0400 > >I'll second that! Great work by everyone -- some amazing and very creative >material. Hard to believe it's all acoustic! > >another James > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jhsidlo@aol.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Date: Saturday, April 14, 2001 12:55 PM >Subject: Re: CT-Acoustic now available > > > I've heard the CT Acoustic. I like it because of the diversity of >instruments (i.e. piano, saxophone). Very well done! > > Best, James > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 15 00:31:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA07423; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:29:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:29:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <09d701c0c564$b8c9ac80$9aad5cd1@-> From: "Bill Fox" To: "emusic-wdiy Mailing List" Subject: Playlist for EMUSIC # 213 Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 00:29:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <8b8sRB.A.bxB.qNS26@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6338 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com [ Best viewed with a fixed spacing font. Prerecorded for Thursday. ] EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA and 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ. Show #213 April 19, 2001. RECAP: On this show, I continued the month-long focus on James Johnson who will be featured at the next Gathering. The feature CD at midnight was Linger on the SpaceForMusic.com Records label. I also played music by Baird Hersey as a preview to the next Gathering. Baird is the leader of Prana, an eight member group that employs overtone harmonic singing methods. James Johnson http://wdiyfm.org/emusic/playlists/2001/focus01.html#apr The Gathering http://wdiyfm.org/emusic/events.html SpaceForMusic.com http://spaceformusic.com/ PLAYLIST: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ======================= ======================== ============================== 11:04 pm van Zyl, Gulch, & Rath The Domain of Arnheim The Sound Museum (Groove) Baird Hersey The Sword Waking the Cobra (Hersey Music) Free System Projekt & Ibis Flight Okefenokee Dreams (Groove) Dave Brewer Numina Elsewhere and Here CDR from the artist Navigator The Storm Navigator II (not yet released) Keller & Schowalder Tempus Fugit The Reason Why (Manikin) VA [Avalon] Ladybug ambient.01@hyperreal (none) 12:00 am James Johnson Linger Linger (SpaceForMusic.com) James Johnson Floating and Dreaming Linger (SpaceForMusic.com) James Johnson Riding the Fog Line Linger (SpaceForMusic.com) James Johnson Siren Song Linger (SpaceForMusic.com) James Johnson Frequency Shift Linger (SpaceForMusic.com) 1:00 am * = exerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) NEXT SHOW: On the next EMUSIC, I'll conclude the month-long focus on James Johnson, a Chicago area ambienteer extraordinaire. James has several releases on labels like Hypnos and his own Zero Music and will headline at the next Gathering in Philadelphia. The feature CD at midnight will be "Lost at Dunn's Lake" on the Zero Music label. Bill billfox@fast.net http://wdiyfm.org/schedule/s_emusic.html ============================================================================ Host of EMUSIC, an electronic, ambient, and space music show. Thursdays at 11 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem and 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg. Email me if you wish to submit music for airplay consideration. Radio Station Home Page: http://wdiyfm.org Personal site: http://www.users.fast.net/~billfox To subscribe to the EMUSIC on WDIY list, send email to: emusic-wdiy-subscribe@yahoogroups.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 15 05:58:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA17206; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 05:57:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 05:57:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 05:55:34 -0400 From: Leander REININGHAUS Subject: Back on the block Sender: Leander REININGHAUS To: "INTERNET:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Message-ID: <200104150555_MC2-CC7F-701E@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id FAA17066 Resent-Message-ID: <-yxUDC.A.5KE.JBX26@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6339 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Happy Easter everybody ! I've been away from the list for quite a long time so I may be not up to the present with this message: I was told by Andy Ewen of Trace Elliot in England that there will be new Gibson EDPs available ( also in Europe ! ) within 8 to 12 weeks. Well, for me this is a sign of hope. If it's an old tale for you guys, just forget ... By the way, I'd like to tell also that the new Boss RC 20 Loop Station, which seems to be inasmuch an interesting machine to me, will be out in Europe in June. Is it out in the States already, and anyone of you guys tested it ? If yes, is there a review on the list I can refer to ? I'd like to know if there is any software for PC out there which makes live looping possible. Sorry, if I might be bothering you with old crap again ! Finally, I'd like to tell all of you that I'm now working as an A&R for a publishing company. We're busy in publishing, production, release and distribution of audio material of any kind. If this is of interest to anybody ( or if there's anybody who wants to find out ... ) you may check our website www.editionrahe.de the site of our major partner www.roba.com and you may contact me for business items under l.reininghaus@editionrahe.de Regards Leander From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 15 06:06:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA18548; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 06:04:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 06:04:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010415100145.1301.qmail@web5101.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 03:01:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Alx Subject: Re: Live looping newbie... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <_A9vSC.A.0fE.JGX26@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6340 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --- Tetsu Matsuo wrote: > Besides the repeater (not yet out), and oberheim > (too pricey), what can I > use for midi record/play? I'm not looking for > anything complicated like > multiple loops, layering, timeclock synching, > etc...just one loop at a > time. The Lexicon Jamman is the only option left for you, try to look for one on Ebay. Alx. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 15 10:24:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25044; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:22:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:22:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Dan Richardson" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:21:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: electronic shruti box software? Reply-to: dlr@javanet.com Message-ID: <3AD9762A.29721.2067F3@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <001901c0c301$def8ba00$69f5d58d@itd.umich.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6341 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Anybody ever seen a software electronic shruti box? Basically I just need 4 freely tunable oscillators in realtime. A general 4 oscillator synth emulation would likely do. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 15 10:46:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA25570; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:44:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 10:44:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <2.7010372877121.285.842146873474@1.00007113566456> X-Sender: X-Mailer: Ken's Useful eMail Suite v5.1 Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 01:35:45 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com From: Ken Subject: Tue 4/17:Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza:11pm live WFMU Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6342 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com How: This Tuesday night April 17, Who: for some 90 minutes between 11pm and 2am Eastern (probably 11pm - 12:30am), When: feel the painful euphoria of Where: Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza, What: live on WFMU, Which: FM radio around NYC area (91.1) Via: and Hudson Valley above NYC (90.1), Through: internet streaming everywhere else (http://free-music.com/ken/extrav/) Why: Discomfort:repetition:nightmares:fullness:outcry:meditation:escape: expression:mindlessness:combinations:circular:creation:questioning: distraction:absorption:concentration:hypnosis:alignment:cacaphony: mathematical:random:theraputic:indulgent:connecting:participatory: harmonic:blinding:silent:mild:static:exception:patterns:repetition:sound Input + Output = Input A completely improvised sonic mess of carefully planned rhymic noises randomly hurled about with the meticulous precision of years of failing to practice resulting in complete silence. Pre-existing audio memories awaken, disruption of eardrum expectations occurs, new patterns are burned, consent is not required. Featuring such elements as you, the participant, calling in during show at 201-200-9368 with useful, related and disjoint sound contributions. (Warning: May contain unrecognizable traces of top 40 80's music.) Guaranteed to drive the listener anywhere between complete insanity and total indifference. How to listen to show: 0) Be ready by 11pm ET on Tuesday night 0.5) Turn off everything else 1) Around NYC and vicinity, tune FM stereo radio to 91.1 2) In fabled Hudson Valley region above NYC, tune FM stereo radio to 90.1 3) Elsewhere, use internet streaming of various types, best quality listed first: 3a) High bandwidth stereo MP3 streaming, for those connecting with things much faster than modems 3b) Modem-speed MP3 streaming 3c) Modem-speed Windows Media Player streaming 3d) Modem-speed RealAudio streaming (last resort) --> All live streaming links will be listed at http://free-music.com/ken/extrav/ by the day of the broadcast How to listen to shows that already happened: - A small handful of shows are online in low-fidelity splendor. See http://free-music.com/ken/extrav/audio/ - The other 244 shows from the past 7+ years are available on CD. See http://free-music.com/ken/extrav/ - Can't decide? Get the CD currently in mass production: "Elsewhere", show #238. Email kenzo@free-music.com - Read textual accounts of past shows, then manually reconstruct audio based on transcripts. - Note to those who attended or listened to recent Williamsburg and Jersey City shows: These shows will be available on CD soon. Or spend hours reading descriptions of past 639 hours of the experiment. http://free-music.com/ken/extrav/ Warning: Talking may occur. Caution: Live phone calls to 201-200-9368 may be aired. Attention: No advance claims about content of Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza should be considered. Note: You won't receive any additional announcements if you send me the names of your three favorite organic vegetables. Reminder: Tuesday April 17, 11pm-12:30am Eastern, or possibly sometime through 2am Redundant: WFMU 91.1 FM, 90.1 FM, internet via http://free-music.com/ken/extrav/ Thanks: $mall Change % Ken's Last Ever Radio Extravaganza % http://free-music.com/ken/extrav/ % kenzo@free-music.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 15 11:09:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA27069; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:07:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:07:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <009b01c0c5bd$c379bcc0$d3954e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: , Subject: Re: electronic shruti box software? Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:06:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <_MwddB.A.9kG.Xkb26@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6343 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Try http://www.swarsystems.com/ James From: Dan Richardson Anybody ever seen a software electronic shruti box? Basically I just need 4 freely tunable oscillators in realtime. A general 4 oscillator synth emulation would likely do. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 16 01:19:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA22815; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 01:16:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 01:16:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010416051527.13382.qmail@web3304.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 01:15:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Antonio Loro Subject: real-time looping by software? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6344 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Question: For looping in real-time, is a hardware looper the way to go, or can you do the job with a software looper? Seems that software has more flexibility, but is probably less user-friendly in a real-time situation. Not to mention, I don't even know if it works in a real-time context. thanks _______________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.ca address at http://mail.yahoo.ca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 16 12:07:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA10524; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:03:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 12:03:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000601c0c68d$48213c80$3214f618@oemcomputer.spardil.mediacom.ispchannel.com> Reply-To: "Eric Williamson" From: "Eric Williamson" To: Subject: addy Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:52:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <8MzsdD.A.ZiC.Eex26@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6345 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com 953 N 2nd St Chillicothe, IL 61523 thanks!! Eric Williamson www.suitandtieguy.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 17 01:24:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA07995; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:21:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 01:21:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <036001c0c6fd$e65c2d40$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au> From: "Jeff van Dyck" To: Subject: Newbie Looper Question Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:18:55 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_035D_01C0C751.B7CCBAE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6346 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_035D_01C0C751.B7CCBAE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howdy Folks, This feels like a dumb question...but here goes...is there a software = looper program available? Something like an echoplex, except it runs on = a mac or pc? Cheers, Jeff ------=_NextPart_000_035D_01C0C751.B7CCBAE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Howdy Folks,
 
This feels like a dumb question...but = here=20 goes...is there a software looper program available? Something like an = echoplex,=20 except it runs on a mac or pc?
 
Cheers,
Jeff
 
------=_NextPart_000_035D_01C0C751.B7CCBAE0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 17 03:08:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA12222; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 03:06:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 03:06:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010417070558.75507.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:05:58 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: The new issue of Guitar Player... To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6347 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com has an ad showing a new modeling pedal from Line6. The FM4 Filter Modeler. It has the following listed presets: Spin Cycle Comet Trails Slow Filter Octisynth Synth-o-matic Attack Synth Synth String Growler Q Filter Tron Down Tron Up Seeker Obi-Wah Voice Box V-Tron Throbber And, it's very purple! Also in GP, an interview with Leni Stern. ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 17 08:47:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA22195; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:44:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:44:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Ppaulpadam@aol.com Message-ID: <70.9b4959e.280d9454@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:43:00 EDT Subject: AIR SYNTH?? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 28 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6348 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello: Does anyone know of the air synth? Any experiences? Similar to the Theramin? Does the hand action control PITCH as well as tone and texture? many Thanks paul Paul Adams LAKEFRONT RECORDS MP3.com/PaulAdams (Music) MP3.com/DavidHoffman (Ray Charles) MP3.com/Paul Adams Poetry (Poetry) Paul Adams Lakefront Records (My site showing more in depth aspects my work) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 17 09:35:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA24205; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:33:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:33:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <09ce01c0c742$dd690470$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <70.9b4959e.280d9454@aol.com> Subject: Re: AIR SYNTH?? Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:32:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <901P1.A.A4F.wXE36@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6349 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Paul, > Does anyone know of the air synth? Any experiences? Similar to the > Theramin? Does the hand action control PITCH as well as tone and texture? Could you describe an air synth? I'm not familiar with it. Some Theramins can generate MIDI or a CV from the pitch and volume signals. Of course, a CV signal can be converted to MIDI. For example, the PAIA Theramax (see http://www.paia.com/theremax.htm ) generates CV signals and their MIDIBRAIN (see http://www.paia.com/midibrn.htm ) will convert CV to MIDI. That's a DIY project but I'm sure off-the-shelf boxes are available from other manufacturers. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 17 10:23:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA26503; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:21:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:21:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: KILLINFO@aol.com Message-ID: <36.1482c336.280daad8@aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 10:19:04 EDT Subject: Re: AIR SYNTH?? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 7 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6350 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com In a message dated 4/17/01 5:44:22 AM, Ppaulpadam@aol.com writes: >Does anyone know of the air synth? Any experiences? Similar to the >Theramin? Does the hand action control PITCH as well as tone and texture? I tried a prototype one way back at NAMM and then again a week or to ago for about half an hour. Although one might assume that it would be theramin-like it really hasn't got the range and controllability of one. That's not to say that it isn't useful within it's limitations. It's got some really phatt analogish sounds and some other patches that kinda sound like something you'd hear on Radiohead's "Kid A" or something. Waving your hand above the sensor triggers sounds at various volumes (only sometimes does pitch seem to be involved). Sometimes you get filter effects in different "quadrants" of the sensor area, sometimes pitch, sometimes wholly different sounds. It has a couple of percussive patches that make it possible to sorta play "air bongos" or "air xylophone" (within a very limited selection of pitches). If one is looking for a budget "theramin" to do a Clara Rockmore style of performance on I'd look elsewhere. But if you want something a little different with some weird sci-fi sounds or you're into Radioheadiilke sounds it may be useful. That was my take. Sorta cool...sorta disappointing. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 17 11:30:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28925; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:28:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 11:28:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010417070558.75507.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010417070558.75507.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 08:23:37 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: The new issue of Guitar Player... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <1ITuR.A.5BH.fCG36@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6351 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com gearheads... yah, and the Line6 message board had this the other day...from george van wagner, their webboard moderator.. "Yup, we showed a new pedal (but rather quietly, since it was several months away from shipping) at NAMM in January. It's the FM4 Filter Modeler. Does filter, sample and hold, auto wah, and monophonic synth effects. Very cool and very strange! Should be available in just a few weeks. Keep your eyes open for audio samples on the site here in the next couple of weeks." - George more stuff! more stuff! rich >has an ad showing a new modeling pedal from Line6. > >The FM4 Filter Modeler. It has the following listed >presets: > >Spin Cycle >Comet Trails >Slow Filter >Octisynth >Synth-o-matic >Attack Synth >Synth String >Growler >Q Filter >Tron Down >Tron Up >Seeker >Obi-Wah >Voice Box >V-Tron >Throbber > >And, it's very purple! > >Also in GP, an interview with Leni Stern. > >===== >John Tidwell From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 17 13:03:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA00738; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:00:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 13:00:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 09:55:50 -0700 From: "Tim Sanz" To: Subject: New find: Pentasystem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id MAA31942 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6352 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Searched the archives but found nothing there on this new company They offer some very cool instruments. I especially like the Celloblaster and there pickguards Any loopers got one? Pentabass Celloblaster Pentatar Pentasitar Pentabouzouki Pentaula Pentalin Drummephone http://www.pentasystem.com/index2.html From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 17 14:46:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04404; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:43:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:43:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [205.155.22.195] From: "David Potter" To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Fwd: RE: Airsynth Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:41:50 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Apr 2001 18:41:50.0400 (UTC) FILETIME=[10873400:01C0C76E] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6353 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

I have the Air FX unit and like it alot.  I wave my guitar over the controller or my hand ...or other body parts to change the parameters.............Om and Out     Papa Dave

air synth info......  http://www.alesis.com/products/airsynth/index.html

Stan Gonzales is helpful at Alesis.............  SGonsales@Alesis.com



 

>From: Stan Gonzales
>To: 'David Potter'
>Subject: RE: Airsynth
>Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:12:19 -0700
>
>Hi Dave, airFX is truly a fun effects processor and a powerful production
>tool.
>If you like airFX you are going to love airSynth! Plus Four Marketing is are
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>on where to pick one up. The projected ship date is around end of April,
>beginning of May.
>Plus Four Marketing
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>Let me know if there is anything else I can do.
>Sincerely
>Stan Gonzales
>Eastern Regional Sales Manager
>Alesis Studio Electronics
>Office (310)-255-3507
>Cell (310)-486-3112
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: David Potter [mailto:papadave55@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 2:09 PM
>To: SGonzales@Alesis.com
>Subject: Re: Airsynth
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>Hi Stan, I am Papa Dave in Santa Cruz Calif..... I have an Air FX and I like
>it alot. Let me know when an Air Synth is available. Thanks, Papa Dave
> >From: Stan Gonzales
> >To: "'papadave55@hotmail.com'"
> >Subject: Airsynth
> >Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 10:56:56 -0700
> >
> >Hello, thanks for your interest in Alesis products. If you could tell me
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> >Let me know.
> >Stan Gonzales
> >Eastern Regional Sales Manager
> >Alesis Studio Electronics
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 17 14:52:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA04778; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:50:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:50:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:48:43 -0400 Subject: Boss RC-20 Loop Station From: "Scott W. Campbell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200104171450805.SM00229@[199.44.16.38]> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6354 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey, Any opinions on this looper from Boss (RC-20 Loop Station), yet? Scott From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 17 15:59:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA07810; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:57:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:57:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:52:34 -0700 Subject: NEW PLUG-IN From: Ivan Zavada To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6355 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello to all This Plug-IN was designed as a new musical creation tool exploiting the capabilities of the variability of the loop. Controling loop length and index in real-time will pull you into the vast ocean of cyclic waves, new rythmic combinations will emerge when using multiple tracks. Welcome to looping... For more info on this real-time looper ask questions at Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Are you interested? This looper is for Mac platform and will be available this summer... Thanks. IZ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 17 16:02:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA09091; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:00:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:00:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:58:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Rik Elswit Message-Id: <200104171958.MAA04330@well.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Boss RC-20 Loop Station Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6356 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The one they had at NAMM didn't get demoed. Just pointed to and looked at. Hands were waved. Assuming it works up to spec, it'll give up to 5 minutes loop time, divisible into something like 10 loops, but dynamically allocated so that you can have a five minute loop if you want. It is a monaural device, and some of the programming requires you to lean over and push buttons on the pedal. Looks to be a Boomerang killer, but it won't supplant the Echoplex because of the way a plex can append loops to each other and sync up to MIDI. It won't supplant the Repeater, providing the Repeater works up to spec, because Repeaters are stereo and have similar construction tricks to the Plexes. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 17 16:09:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA09435; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:08:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:08:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <014901c0c779$e5982ea0$b223893e@oemcomputer> From: "Lee Fletcher" To: Subject: CENTROZOON - Easter Update (Slightly Off-Topic) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:06:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6357 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com (My apologies for any inadvertent cross-posting)... It's been a while... But despite the scarcity of public announcements in recent months CENTROZOON (a.k.a. TouchStyle guitarist Markus Reuter, and synthesist Bernhard Wostheinrich) have been working towards bringing last year's 'The Cult Of: Bibbiboo' sessions (now fully formed) into the public domain:- Canadian Producer (and 'Crafty' guitarist) Derek DiFilippo has completed the final mixes, and mastering is now scheduled for May 2001 in London with Simon Heyworth at the helm. Renowned sleeve-artist Russell Mills has also shown interest in the project, and may ultimately contribute the final artwork for what promises to be a very special release. Friends, enthusiasts, and random 'passers by' are invited to sample Bibbiboo's wisdom by visiting the all-new interactive Oracle Of: Bibbiboo (Flash) site at http://www.bibbiboo.com. Let Bibbiboo be your guiding light, (or simply ask her "does my bum look big in this?") It's inspirational / It's 'wacky' / It's - probably not what you're expecting! ;-) Amidst preparations for 'The Cult Of: Bibbiboo' CENTROZOON have found time to record and released 'Sun Lounge Debris' - a stunning new album of impromptu ambient works. This salient collection (whilst further marking out their own sonic territory) is surely the kindred partner to Fripp and Eno's early collaborative works. Hop over to http://www.mp3.com/centrozoon for further details, audio samples, and purchase information... As always, the latest news and developments can be found at http://www.centrozoon.de. Best wishes, Lee Fletcher (on behalf of CENTROZOON) http://www.centrozoon.de http://www.bibbiboo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 17 17:54:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA13009; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:51:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:51:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:47:16 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: NEW PLUG-IN Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6358 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com uh...kindof preaching to the choir, no? are you expecting anybody to say, "hell no, i'm not interested in a software looping plug in"? so, yes, i'm sure everybody is interested. any questions would, however, be similar to the questions regarding our beloved, late to the party, Repeater. such as: when can i have it? i mean, REALLY have it... will it do everything you promised it would do? where's the manual? can it work in real-time? really? for sure, push-it-to-the-wall real-time? is it better than the edp? was there really a second man on the grassy knoll? seeya, rich ps. speaking of software...i recently got Bitheadz' "Retro AS-1" software synth. my wife got herself a sporty G3 powerbook which was sitting a little too idle for stretches at a time for my taste. usb midi interface, Retro, and a few less dollars in my pocket later...Wow, this synth is A LOT OF FUN. Instant access down into the oscillators and filters, instant access to the effects, and the delays, although not very long, will self oscillate into #@^*^%$#####%&&*%%& if ya push 'em. Absolutely TONS of presets that you can mangle and save too. very nice...now just got to get the midi implmentation sorted out so the ribbon controllers on my Alesis qs6 can control Retro parameters in real time...yay! >Hello to all > >This Plug-IN was designed as a new musical creation tool >exploiting the capabilities of the variability of the loop. >Controling loop length and index in real-time will pull you >into the vast ocean of cyclic waves, new rythmic combinations >will emerge when using multiple tracks. Welcome to looping... > >For more info on this real-time looper >ask questions at Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Are you interested? >This looper is for Mac platform and will be available this summer... > >Thanks. >IZ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 17 18:11:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA14663; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:09:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:09:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001b01c0c78a$c85e2040$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au> From: "Jeff van Dyck" To: References: Subject: Re: NEW PLUG-IN Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:07:24 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6359 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Which plugin? ----- Original Message ----- From: "rich" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 7:47 AM Subject: Re: NEW PLUG-IN > uh...kindof preaching to the choir, no? > > are you expecting anybody to say, "hell no, i'm not interested in a > software looping plug in"? > > so, yes, i'm sure everybody is interested. any questions would, > however, be similar to the questions regarding our beloved, late to > the party, Repeater. > > such as: > > when can i have it? i mean, REALLY have it... > will it do everything you promised it would do? > where's the manual? > can it work in real-time? really? for sure, push-it-to-the-wall real-time? > is it better than the edp? > was there really a second man on the grassy knoll? > > seeya, > > > rich > > ps. speaking of software...i recently got Bitheadz' "Retro AS-1" > software synth. my wife got herself a sporty G3 powerbook which was > sitting a little too idle for stretches at a time for my taste. usb > midi interface, Retro, and a few less dollars in my pocket > later...Wow, this synth is A LOT OF FUN. Instant access down into > the oscillators and filters, instant access to the effects, and the > delays, although not very long, will self oscillate into > #@^*^%$#####%&&*%%& if ya push 'em. Absolutely TONS of presets that > you can mangle and save too. > > very nice...now just got to get the midi implmentation sorted out so > the ribbon controllers on my Alesis qs6 can control Retro parameters > in real time...yay! > > > > > > >Hello to all > > > >This Plug-IN was designed as a new musical creation tool > >exploiting the capabilities of the variability of the loop. > >Controling loop length and index in real-time will pull you > >into the vast ocean of cyclic waves, new rythmic combinations > >will emerge when using multiple tracks. Welcome to looping... > > > >For more info on this real-time looper > >ask questions at Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Are you interested? > >This looper is for Mac platform and will be available this summer... > > > >Thanks. > >IZ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 17 19:00:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA15915; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:48:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 18:48:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010417224744.29532.qmail@web5102.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:47:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Alx Subject: Re: The new issue of Guitar Player... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20010417070558.75507.qmail@web10002.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6360 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Would you like to know Zachary Vex´s opinion about Line 6 "modelling" his "Seek Wah" (Seeker on line 6)?, check Ampage.org under the "Effects" forum and then under the "Lovetone Big Cheese" thread, Zach is really pissed about that but he announced that in a short time he´ll come up with a new version of his Seek Wah now named "Oooh Wah" which offers a "random" option, he also mentioned that soon he´ll be offering a box to sync MIDI clock with the Seek/Oooh Wah with the option to have tempo subdivisons, way cool. Alx. --- John Tidwell wrote: > has an ad showing a new modeling pedal from Line6. > > The FM4 Filter Modeler. It has the following listed > presets: > > Spin Cycle > Comet Trails > Slow Filter > Octisynth > Synth-o-matic > Attack Synth > Synth String > Growler > Q Filter > Tron Down > Tron Up > Seeker > Obi-Wah > Voice Box > V-Tron > Throbber > > And, it's very purple! > > Also in GP, an interview with Leni Stern. > > ===== > John Tidwell > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great > prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 17 19:30:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA18136; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:29:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:29:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 19:28:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Burnett To: Subject: Re: The new issue of Guitar Player... In-Reply-To: <20010417224744.29532.qmail@web5102.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from QUOTED-PRINTABLE to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id TAA17986 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6361 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Alx wrote: > Would you like to know Zachary Vex´s opinion about > Line 6 "modelling" his "Seek Wah" (Seeker on line 6)?, > check Ampage.org under the "Effects" forum and then > under the "Lovetone Big Cheese" thread, Zach is really > pissed about that but he announced that in a short > time he´ll come up with a new version of his Seek Wah > now named "Oooh Wah" which offers a "random" option, He started shipping the Ooh Wah last week. I should have mine either tomorrow or the end of the week. I don't think I'll get rid of my Seek wah either. http://www.zvex.com/oohwah.html > he also mentioned that soon he´ll be offering a box to > sync MIDI clock with the Seek/Oooh Wah with the option > to have tempo subdivisons, way cool. Ok, *that* I will preorder right now. Well, not really, but I look forward to seeing that as well. Thanks! regards, Steve > Alx. > > > --- John Tidwell wrote: > > has an ad showing a new modeling pedal from Line6. > > > > The FM4 Filter Modeler. It has the following listed > > presets: > > > > Spin Cycle > > Comet Trails > > Slow Filter > > Octisynth > > Synth-o-matic > > Attack Synth > > Synth String > > Growler > > Q Filter > > Tron Down > > Tron Up > > Seeker > > Obi-Wah > > Voice Box > > V-Tron > > Throbber > > > > And, it's very purple! > > > > Also in GP, an interview with Leni Stern. > > > > ===== > > John Tidwell > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great > > prices > > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > -- onNow: ---------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Burnett Admin, webslingerZ sburnett@webslingerz.com http://www.webslingerz.com/sburnett From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 17 20:17:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA20651; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:16:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:16:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003401c0c79c$80b2c900$c3be883e@default> From: "steve murphy" To: Subject: dodgy acapellas...... Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:14:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01C0C7A4.E0CBF200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: <81MNG.A.fAF.OyN36@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6362 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C0C7A4.E0CBF200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable yeah, errr.....new bloke. So anyway, so does anyone know where (on the web or otherwise) I can = pick up some *really* facking bad acappellas? And I mean really dodgy = pop like color me badd or tiffany. So umm....help please? I have like, hiphop acappelas and stuff but = they`re all of far too high a quality (ie. you can listen to them = without vomitting blood) for my latest project. any help would be greatly appreciated. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C0C7A4.E0CBF200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C0C7A4.E0CBF200-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 17 22:33:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA25570; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:32:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:32:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002d01c0c7ae$5ce7b5a0$3214f618@oemcomputer.spardil.mediacom.ispchannel.com> Reply-To: "Eric Williamson" From: "Eric Williamson" To: Subject: sorry about that Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:22:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Resent-Message-ID: <1Mi-oB.A.TNG.6xP36@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6363 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i didn't mean to send my address out to the list ... i have no clue what manners of sleep deprivation caused that to happen. sorry .... Eric Williamson www.suitandtieguy.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 17 22:45:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA25996; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:44:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:44:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.1.20010417223245.009fea80@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: taghairm@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:41:08 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: p koniuto Subject: --Imberg's collection of thoughts-- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6364 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey all: Received Alan Imberg's debut CD "Collection of Thoughts" announced here a week or so ago. I think most of this disc is really impressive! Good work, Alan! Of the ten tracks on this, there's probably just one i'm not so sure of. And there are quite a few that are *very* strong. Alan obviously has a great harmonic sensibility, and a love for looping, no doubt. A lot of this could be labeled ambient or minimalist, if one needs these labels. I think this would appeal to a lot of folks on this list. I'm learning a lot from it. Hey Alan--check's in the mail! Imbergrooves, pjk ________________________________________ To: "Loopers" Subject: OT: CD Release Spam From: "Alan Imberg" Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 20:13:15 -0700 Greetings Loopers: I've just released my debut full-length, titled "A Collection of Thoughts", which is about 80% loopage content. Its available through Amazon.com and other fine locations. If you are interested in more details, please visit my web page (http://home.sprynet.com/~alan_i). Best Regards, Alan Imberg From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 17 23:42:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA28230; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:41:04 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:41:04 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Tremolaria@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:39:36 EDT Subject: Help me with my sampling scenario To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_a3.1489c493.280e6678_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6365 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_a3.1489c493.280e6678_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's my dilemma. I want to trigger monophonic samples with a footswitch. Simple request I would think. Years ago, I used to use any number of digital delay units with a "sampling" feature that would allow you to sample something then hit a footswitch and trigger it. Hit it again, and it starts from the beginning. You don't have to hold the switch down. you don't have to do anything special. Just hit the switch and hear the sample.Great. I got greedy and wanted storage so I could call up each sample for each song in my live set.things got complicated. I bought an archaic Akai S612 sampler. Yes, very cheap. It was incredibly lo-fi (to my joy) and worked pretty easily. I had MIDI Solutions build me a custom MIDI footswitch controller that sent a NOTE ON message at a certain note number and NO NOTE OFF, so it would play the complete sample all the way through (the samples, by the way are usually three second/one or two measure guitar parts...kinda like MBV or Curve type things) My rig now works like it should.However, I'm sick of carrying 4 rack spaces of antique technology. I'm sick of having to load samples from a Quick Disk at the beginning of EVERY song, and I'm sick of the sampler not working when it doesn't feel like it.I would LOVE to replace it with a newer cheap alternative. Something the size of a Dr. Sample would be nice, but I couldn't get the Dr. Sample to work like I want it to. Does anyone have any suggestions? Another way to describe what I want is instead of using guitar samples, say I wanted to trigger drum sounds (not loops). You want to hear the complete drum sample when you hit the pad/switch, and retrigger it monophonically (not polyphonically) everytime you hit it. Besides a $1000 SP808, what could I use? Thank you Roger --part1_a3.1489c493.280e6678_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here's my dilemma.

I want to trigger monophonic samples with a footswitch. Simple request I
would think.

Years ago, I used to use any number of digital delay units with a "sampling"
feature that would allow you to sample something then hit a footswitch and
trigger it. Hit it again, and it starts from the beginning. You don't have to
hold the switch down. you don't have to do anything special. Just hit the
switch and hear the sample.Great.

I got greedy and wanted storage so I could call up each sample for each song
in my live set.things got complicated.

I bought an archaic Akai S612 sampler. Yes, very cheap. It was incredibly
lo-fi (to my joy) and worked pretty easily. I had MIDI Solutions build me a
custom MIDI footswitch controller that sent a NOTE ON message at a certain
note number and NO NOTE OFF, so it would play the complete sample all the way
through (the samples, by the way are usually three second/one or two measure
guitar parts...kinda like MBV or Curve type things)

My rig now works like it should.However, I'm sick of carrying 4 rack spaces
of antique technology. I'm sick of having to load samples from a Quick Disk
at the beginning of EVERY song, and I'm sick of the sampler not working when
it doesn't feel like it.I would LOVE to replace it with a newer cheap
alternative. Something the size of a Dr. Sample would be nice, but I couldn't
get the Dr. Sample to work like I want it to.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Another way to describe what I want is instead of using guitar samples, say I
wanted to trigger drum sounds (not loops). You want to hear the complete drum
sample when you hit the pad/switch, and retrigger it monophonically (not
polyphonically) everytime you hit it. Besides a $1000 SP808, what could I use?

Thank you
Roger



--part1_a3.1489c493.280e6678_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 18 03:35:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA03798; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:33:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:33:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Delivered-To: fixup-Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com@fixme User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:31:19 -0700 Subject: Filter Boxes (Frostwave) From: Tiktok To: "Looper's Delight" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6366 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Given the recent mention of several filter boxes (Line6, ZVex), I'd also encourage people to have a look at the Frostwave boxes, at www.frostwave.com. I stumbled across their stuff recently and was impressed. They're an Australian company, and the current exchange rate makes for some tempting options for US loopers. Travis Hartnett From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 18 12:36:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA23179; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:30:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:30:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [64.152.157.45] Reply-To: noskrid1@netzero.net From: "derek dirckson" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: The new issue of Guitar Player... Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:26:18 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Apr 2001 16:26:18.0799 (UTC) FILETIME=[4C211BF0:01C0C824] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6367 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Does anyone know where I can find both "Royalty Free" Horn Section Loops and/or Horn Loops. If not "Royalty Free" then on a CD. I am especially looking for "Memphis" (i.e. "Stax records style") R&B (i.e. "Funk") and Blues" style licks and or parts.

Thanks for any help.


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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 18 13:24:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA25535; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:18:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:18:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:16:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Burnett To: Subject: Re: Filter Boxes (Frostwave) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6368 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Tiktok wrote: > Given the recent mention of several filter boxes (Line6, ZVex), I'd also > encourage people to have a look at the Frostwave boxes, at > www.frostwave.com. I stumbled across their stuff recently and was > impressed. They're an Australian company, and the current exchange rate > makes for some tempting options for US loopers. I've been looking at their stuff recently too. I came across a Frostwave product not listed on their website, or the seller's. It's called a SpaceBeam and looks to be similar to a Roland D-Beam. Anyone know anything about these? I've only seen this one on ebay. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1422138005 thanks, Steve -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Burnett Admin, webslingerZ sburnett@webslingerz.com http://www.webslingerz.com/sburnett From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 18 13:51:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA26361; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:42:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:42:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Kriist@aol.com Message-ID: <50.146563e4.280f2b7a@aol.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:40:10 EDT Subject: Re: Filter Boxes (Frostwave) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_50.146563e4.280f2b7a_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6369 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_50.146563e4.280f2b7a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What it might be is that the webpage is not run my Paul its run by some distributor or something like that he mustve told me at least3 times during a few email exchanges that if i wanted to purchase something to contact him directly, and that the page was NOT run by him rodrigo > I've been looking at their stuff recently too. I came across a Frostwave > product not listed on their website, or the seller's. It's called a > SpaceBeam and looks to be similar to a Roland D-Beam. Anyone know > anything about these? I've only seen this one on ebay. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem& --part1_50.146563e4.280f2b7a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What it might be is that the webpage is not run my Paul
its run by some distributor or something like that
he mustve told me at least3 times during a few email exchanges that if i
wanted to purchase something to contact him directly, and that the page was
NOT run by him

rodrigo

I've been looking at their stuff recently too. I came across a Frostwave
product not listed on their website, or the seller's. It's called a
SpaceBeam and looks to be similar to a Roland D-Beam. Anyone know
anything about these? I've only seen this one on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1422138005


 --part1_50.146563e4.280f2b7a_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 18 14:48:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA29370; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:45:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:45:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Dan Richardson" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:44:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: electronic shruti box software? Reply-to: dlr@javanet.com Message-ID: <3ADDA831.5429.581B0C@localhost> Priority: normal In-reply-to: <3AD9762A.29721.2067F3@localhost> References: <001901c0c301$def8ba00$69f5d58d@itd.umich.edu> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6370 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Several people asked for the fruits of my search for a software shruti box. I've found a freeware Windows synth that does a great job of this. http://www.maz-sound.com/archives/trx-or20.zip You need to click on Realtime in the menubar. Then hit the Oscillators page, uncheck Melodic & Filter, make an oscillator Active and tune it with the Frequency slider. Move the shape slider a bit for some buzziness. Repeat until satisfied with creamy droning richness. Reduce the volume for each oscillator as you add more, or it'll overdrive internally. I set them all to -12 dB. Dan Richardson Northampton, MA From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 18 14:49:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA29558; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:47:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:47:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010418184559.25821.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:45:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Bret Subject: Re: Filter Boxes (Frostwave) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <-qfy4.A.dLH.oDe36@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6371 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The ebay ad says "Custom built for melmusic by boutique effects maker,Frostwave". Sounds like it is not in their normal product line. You could email melmusic (the ebay seller) at melmusic@melmusic.com.au and learn more about this box. bret --- Steve Burnett wrote: > On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Tiktok wrote: > > > Given the recent mention of several filter boxes (Line6, ZVex), I'd > also > > encourage people to have a look at the Frostwave boxes, at > > www.frostwave.com. I stumbled across their stuff recently and was > > impressed. They're an Australian company, and the current exchange > rate > > makes for some tempting options for US loopers. > > I've been looking at their stuff recently too. I came across a > Frostwave > product not listed on their website, or the seller's. It's called a > SpaceBeam and looks to be similar to a Roland D-Beam. Anyone know > anything about these? I've only seen this one on ebay. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1422138005 > > thanks, > Steve > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Steve Burnett Admin, webslingerZ sburnett@webslingerz.com > http://www.webslingerz.com/sburnett > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 18 18:06:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA07377; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:02:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:02:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:01:48 -0500 Subject: Re: Filter Boxes (Frostwave) From: Skye To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010418184559.25821.qmail@web10104.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6372 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Actually this is a "real" Frostwave product, but it is rather new- you should be able to order them through frostwave's "warmcola" site- I am not sure of the url, but a google search should reveal the info... it was just released around december, and it is supposed to be quite nice. s on 4/18/01 1:45 PM, Bret at echoplex@yahoo.com wrote: > The ebay ad says "Custom built for melmusic by boutique effects > maker,Frostwave". Sounds like it is not in their normal product line. > You could email melmusic (the ebay seller) at melmusic@melmusic.com.au > and learn more about this box. > bret From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 18 18:10:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA07742; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:09:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:09:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [209.82.17.12] From: "Alex C" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Anyone interested in a jam man? Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:07:48 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Apr 2001 22:07:48.0935 (UTC) FILETIME=[0133BD70:01C0C854] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6373 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Does anyone know if the Jam Man Sean is selling is still available? I am interested, but would like to know if he has sold it already. Thanks, Alex >From: "Gary Lehmann" >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: >Subject: Re: Anyone interested in a jam man? >Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:36:34 -0700 > >This may be good advice. I sold mine for $600 a year ago, but when the >Repeater finally (!) gets released, it will drive down the asking price of >existing loopers. Besides, IMHO the Jammer has serious limitation >(although >loads of folks on this list don't seem to have a problem making it do >tricks--hi Steve!) >Gary > >PS--you might still be able to get $600 for it--I haven't been following it >on ebay lately but Alto seems to get $700 for the Echoplex with no problem. >G > > > > get rid of it quick. It's fairly rare, but now the Echoplex Digital Pro > > is available and a company called Electrix may be releasing a similar > > product in June. You my still be able to get a good price for it. > > > > Mark > > > > sean conlon wrote: > > > > > I have a jam man I am not getting much use out of > > > that I was thinking of selling. I was kind of curious > > > to see what they are going for these days. I know its > > > worth something as It seems they are quite scarce and > > > somewhat collectible. Is anyone interested? > > > > > > Take care, Sean > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 18 18:55:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA09120; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:51:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:51:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004101c0c85a$8ef1d880$3f140b3e@c3v8b8> From: "tiscali" To: Subject: accynny Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:54:42 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003E_01C0C86B.51C206E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6374 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C0C86B.51C206E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable graziano accinni (accynny) ELECTRIC -SINT GUITARS http://peoplesound.com/artists/accynny ------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C0C86B.51C206E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_003E_01C0C86B.51C206E0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 18 22:08:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA18242; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:06:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:06:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Tremolaria@aol.com Message-ID: <82.9d5c73c.280fa1d6@aol.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:05:10 EDT Subject: Re: Newbie needs help with his sampling scenario To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_82.9d5c73c.280fa1d6_boundary" Content-Disposition: Inline X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10513 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6375 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_82.9d5c73c.280fa1d6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all. nice to be here. Here's my dilemma. I want to trigger monophonic samples with a footswitch. Simple request I=20 would think. Years ago, I used to use any number of digital delay units with a "sampling"= =20 feature that would allow you to sample something then hit a footswitch and=20 trigger it. Hit it again, and it starts from the beginning. You don't have t= o=20 hold the switch down. you don't have to do anything special. Just hit the=20 switch and hear the sample.Great.=20 I got greedy and wanted storage so I could call up each sample for each song= =20 in my live set.things got complicated. I bought an archaic Akai S612 sampler. Yes, very cheap. It was incredibly=20 lo-fi (to my joy) and worked pretty easily. I had MIDI Solutions build me a=20 custom MIDI footswitch controller that sent a NOTE ON message at a certain=20 note number and NO NOTE OFF, so it would play the complete sample all the wa= y=20 through (the samples, by the way are usually three second/one or two measure= =20 guitar parts...kinda like MBV or Curve type things) My rig now works like it should.However, I'm sick of carrying 4 rack spaces=20 of antique technology. I'm sick of having to load samples from a Quick Disk=20 at the beginning of EVERY song, and I'm sick of the sampler not working when= =20 it doesn't feel like it.I would LOVE to replace it with a newer cheap=20 alternative. Something the size of a Dr. Sample would be nice, but I couldn'= t=20 get the Dr. Sample to work like I want it to. Does anyone have any suggestions? Another way to describe what I want is instead of using guitar samples, say=20= I=20 wanted to trigger drum sounds (not loops). You want to hear the complete dru= m=20 sample when you hit the pad/switch, and retrigger it monophonically (not=20 polyphonically) everytime you hit it. Besides a $1000 SP808, what could I us= e? Thank you Roger=20 =A0 =A0=20 =A0 =A0=20 --part1_82.9d5c73c.280fa1d6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all. nice to be here.

Here's my dilemma.

I want to trigger monophonic samples with a footswitch. Simple request I= =20
would think.

Years ago, I used to use any number of digital delay units with a "sampl= ing"=20
feature that would allow you to sample something then hit a footswitch a= nd=20
trigger it. Hit it again, and it starts from the beginning. You don't ha= ve to=20
hold the switch down. you don't have to do anything special. Just hit th= e=20
switch and hear the sample.Great.=20

I got greedy and wanted storage so I could call up each sample for each=20= song=20
in my live set.things got complicated.

I bought an archaic Akai S612 sampler. Yes, very cheap. It was incredibl= y=20
lo-fi (to my joy) and worked pretty easily. I had MIDI Solutions build m= e a=20
custom MIDI footswitch controller that sent a NOTE ON message at a certa= in=20
note number and NO NOTE OFF, so it would play the complete sample all th= e way=20
through (the samples, by the way are usually three second/one or two mea= sure=20
guitar parts...kinda like MBV or Curve type things)

My rig now works like it should.However, I'm sick of carrying 4 rack spa= ces=20
of antique technology. I'm sick of having to load samples from a Quick D= isk=20
at the beginning of EVERY song, and I'm sick of the sampler not working=20= when=20
it doesn't feel like it.I would LOVE to replace it with a newer cheap=20
alternative. Something the size of a Dr. Sample would be nice, but I cou= ldn't=20
get the Dr. Sample to work like I want it to.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Another way to describe what I want is instead of using guitar samples,=20= say I=20
wanted to trigger drum sounds (not loops). You want to hear the complete= drum=20
sample when you hit the pad/switch, and retrigger it monophonically (not= =20
polyphonically) everytime you hit it. Besides a $1000 SP808, what could=20= I use?

Thank you
Roger
=A0 =A0=20
=A0 =A0=20

--part1_82.9d5c73c.280fa1d6_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 19 00:10:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA23182; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:08:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:08:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010418204413.009f87b0@mail.well.com> X-Sender: dog@mail.well.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:44:13 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: dan mcmullen Subject: edp record-insert-insert oddity? In-Reply-To: <3ADDA831.5429.581B0C@localhost> References: <3AD9762A.29721.2067F3@localhost> <001901c0c301$def8ba00$69f5d58d@itd.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <5SS6sB.A.zpF.USm36@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6376 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com can anyone explain why when i end record w/ insert to set the tempo, & finish w/ another insert after 2 or more cycles, the start point of the loop ends up different than the point at which i originally pressed record? this happens sometimes, but not always. for instance right this minute, it happens consistantly on loop 1, but not on loop 2 or 3. tia, dan ___ dan mcmullen, ca, usa don't worry - pay attention mailto:dog@well.com 707-485-0220 pgp fingerprint = 1C70 8D81 6B94 93A9 F2D8 9609 2122 BF70 8619 EDAF From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 19 11:10:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA14288; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:06:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:06:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [166.90.226.77] Reply-To: noskrid1@netzero.net From: "derek dirckson" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Filter Boxes (Frostwave) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:05:10 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2001 15:05:10.0520 (UTC) FILETIME=[20D26F80:01C0C8E2] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6377 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com



Does anyone know where I can find some Brass (Horn) Loops? They can either be free or for sale.

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 19 11:51:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA15251; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:47:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:47:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010419155125.3714@mail.st.rim.or.jp> From: ysh To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:51:24 +0900 Subject: Re: Boss RC-20 Loop Station In-Reply-To: <200104171958.MAA04330@well.com> References: <200104171958.MAA04330@well.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: ARENA Internet Mailer 2.0 PPC X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6378 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello all, It's shipping in Japan and I did have a chance to obtain one... but not really use it as of yet. A report shall follow in the coming days... Rik Elswit$B$5$s$,(B01.4.17 12:58 PM$B$K=q$-$^$7$?!'(B >The one they had at NAMM didn't get demoed. Just pointed to and looked at. >Hands were waved. Assuming it works up to spec, it'll give up to 5 >minutes loop time, divisible into something like 10 loops, but dynamically >allocated so that you can have a five minute loop if you want. It is a >monaural device, and some of the programming requires you to lean over and >push buttons on the pedal. Looks to be a Boomerang killer, but it won't >supplant the Echoplex because of the way a plex can append loops to each >other and sync up to MIDI. It won't supplant the Repeater, providing the >Repeater works up to spec, because Repeaters are stereo and have similar >construction tricks to the Plexes. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 19 15:18:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA24903; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:15:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:15:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010419191407.20671.qmail@web5102.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:14:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Alx Subject: Re: Anyone interested in a jam man? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6379 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Check Ebay for one, I just saw one there that a guy is selling and it looks in excellent condition here´s the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1230957750 Alx. --- Alex C wrote: > Does anyone know if the Jam Man Sean is selling is > still available? I am > interested, but would like to know if he has sold it > already. > > Thanks, > Alex > > > >From: "Gary Lehmann" > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: Anyone interested in a jam man? > >Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:36:34 -0700 > > > >This may be good advice. I sold mine for $600 a > year ago, but when the > >Repeater finally (!) gets released, it will drive > down the asking price of > >existing loopers. Besides, IMHO the Jammer has > serious limitation > >(although > >loads of folks on this list don't seem to have a > problem making it do > >tricks--hi Steve!) > >Gary > > > >PS--you might still be able to get $600 for it--I > haven't been following it > >on ebay lately but Alto seems to get $700 for the > Echoplex with no problem. > >G > > > > > > > get rid of it quick. It's fairly rare, but now > the Echoplex Digital Pro > > > is available and a company called Electrix may > be releasing a similar > > > product in June. You my still be able to get a > good price for it. > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > sean conlon wrote: > > > > > > > I have a jam man I am not getting much > use out of > > > > that I was thinking of selling. I was kind of > curious > > > > to see what they are going for these days. I > know its > > > > worth something as It seems they are quite > scarce and > > > > somewhat collectible. Is anyone interested? > > > > > > > > Take > care, Sean > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > > > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 19 15:19:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA24990; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:17:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:17:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [205.155.22.180] From: "David Potter" To: loopers-delight@annihilist.com Subject: Fwd: Re: Theremin Frostwave Spacebeam Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:16:47 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Apr 2001 19:16:48.0237 (UTC) FILETIME=[47C339D0:01C0C905] Resent-Message-ID: <_4sJgC.A.NGG._mz36@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6380 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com



Hi guys, here's the info on the Theremin Frostwave Spacebeam.....  Looks like it might be fun...take care     Om and Out      Papa Dave   http://www.melmusic.au



 

>From: "melmusic"
>Reply-To: "melmusic"
>To: "David Potter"
>Subject: Re: Theremin Frostwave Spacebeam
>Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:22:30 +1000
>
>Hi David,
>Thanks for your enquiry,
>The Spacebeam is still available for sale.
>The cost is $US165.00
>Freight by Fed Ex would be an additional $35.00US
>Freight by insured airmail would be an additional $20.00US
>for payment and ordering details please go to
>www.melmusic.com.au/order
>Cheers
>Choo Packer
>MELMUSIC
>melmusic.com.au
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: melmusic@melmusic.com.au
> Sent: Wednesday, 18 April 2001 8:02
> Subject: Theremin Frostwave Spacebeam
>
>
> Hi Melmusic, I am Papa Dave in Santa Cruz, Ca. I saw that the Theremin Frostwave Spacebeam did not sell. I am interested. papadave55@hotmail.com please send info on how I can get one....Thanks
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 19 15:26:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25232; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:20:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:20:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002901c0c906$126d17a0$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "Clifford@BienAppraisers" To: References: <20010419191407.20671.qmail@web5102.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Anyone interested in a jam man? Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:22:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6381 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wow- brand new in the box- neat- but $650? ouch! cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alx" To: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 12:14 PM Subject: Re: Anyone interested in a jam man? > Check Ebay for one, I just saw one there that a guy is > selling and it looks in excellent condition here´s the > link: > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1230957750 > Alx. > > > > --- Alex C wrote: > > Does anyone know if the Jam Man Sean is selling is > > still available? I am > > interested, but would like to know if he has sold it > > already. > > > > Thanks, > > Alex > > > > > > >From: "Gary Lehmann" > > >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > >To: > > >Subject: Re: Anyone interested in a jam man? > > >Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 17:36:34 -0700 > > > > > >This may be good advice. I sold mine for $600 a > > year ago, but when the > > >Repeater finally (!) gets released, it will drive > > down the asking price of > > >existing loopers. Besides, IMHO the Jammer has > > serious limitation > > >(although > > >loads of folks on this list don't seem to have a > > problem making it do > > >tricks--hi Steve!) > > >Gary > > > > > >PS--you might still be able to get $600 for it--I > > haven't been following it > > >on ebay lately but Alto seems to get $700 for the > > Echoplex with no problem. > > >G > > > > > > > > > > get rid of it quick. It's fairly rare, but now > > the Echoplex Digital Pro > > > > is available and a company called Electrix may > > be releasing a similar > > > > product in June. You my still be able to get a > > good price for it. > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > sean conlon wrote: > > > > > > > > > I have a jam man I am not getting much > > use out of > > > > > that I was thinking of selling. I was kind of > > curious > > > > > to see what they are going for these days. I > > know its > > > > > worth something as It seems they are quite > > scarce and > > > > > somewhat collectible. Is anyone interested? > > > > > > > > > > Take > > care, Sean > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > > > > > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 19 15:46:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA25713; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:37:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 15:37:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Sender: simran@phys-ha2mpkb-16.Eng.Sun.COM Message-ID: <3ADF3E4E.34137158@Sun.COM> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:36:46 -0700 From: Simran gleason Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Gig Spam: A Cappella loopers in San Francisco Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6382 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mixtape from Mars plays the Presidio Cappella as part of the Mouth Travels 2 concert. OK, so it's not entirely a loopers concert. It's more of a vocal show, and we're the only ones using loopers. We'll be doing overtone singing, vocal percussion, and other vocals, with my usual looper setup. Enjoy, Simran To hear what we sound like: http://www.mp3.com/MixtapeFromMars http://www.mp3.com/Inkstone The coordinates: Mouth Travels 2 8:30 pm Fri, April 20, 2001 Presidio Chapel, San Francisco Tickets $15 Doors open at 8, sorry there's no way to get advanced tix or reserve spaces, so show up early. map: http://www.interfaith-presidio.org/map.htm The announcement (ad lengthium): Howdy folks, more news from Mars.... This week the Martians go A Cappella. While "a cappella" has recently come to mean music made with only vocals, the original meaning comes from the Italian for "in the chapel." So we'll be part of a concert happening in the Presidio Cappella. We've been invited to play in the Mouth Travels 2 concert, hosted by the beautiful singers of the group JouJou. And because it's in cappella, we're not bringing any instruments. Just our voices, oh yeah, and a couple hundred pounds of electronics -- Loopers, mostly (They're like our security blankets), and my PAlien speaker sculptures from BurningMan. But no homemade instruments this time, no wok lids, no little wooden frogs, not even a bag of forks. Just the vocal cords. Extreme vocal techniques: we have the inimitable Andrew Chaikin on vocal percussion, John chanting into a portable resonant space, Simran's throat singing. This time we have Barbara Jaspersen joining us with her layered trancy soprano, and Rob Penn's tenor and air trumpet. Here's the data and the concert lineup: =========================================== Mouth Travels 2 8:30 pm Fri, April 20, 2001 Presidio Chapel Tickets $15 Doors open at 8, sorry there's no way to get advanced tix or reserve spaces, so show up early. JouJou is... a women's a cappella group who sing Balkan, Appalachian, Italian and Greek songs - goofy international folk jazz! Our guests include... Timothy Frazier: Gaelic mouth nusic Mixtape From Mars: overtone singing and vocal percussion Ron Jones: song/storyteller extraordinaire Claudia Villela and Ricardo Peixoto: Brazilian singer and guitarist For directions: http://www.interfaith-presidio.org/map.htm Some websites: http://www.joujousings.com http://www.mp3.com/MixtapeFromMars http://www.mp3.com/Inkstone Hope to see you there! Jen Tait of JouJou ======================================= And in other news, Andrew Chaikin has entered the infamous 5K contest. That's where you get major nerd points for creating a cool website that weighs less than (or equal to) 5K bytes. i.e. 5120 bytes. The prize: fifty one dollars and twenty cents. yeah! This year anybody can view and rate the entries, and the judges will judge the top rated ones. So check them out, vote early and vote often (but only once per entry). Andrew's entry is a series of three puzzles featuring Bartleby Snore, the world's Biggest Bore. I tried them. They're really fun. Pretty hard, too. I had to give in and use the hint. Check it out at http://www.the5k.org ===== Have fun, and hope to see you friday! Simran http://www.mp3.com/Inkstone http://www.mp3.com/MixtapeFromMars From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 19 17:39:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA30993; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:37:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:37:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: matthias@pop.e-net.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010418204413.009f87b0@mail.well.com> References: <3AD9762A.29721.2067F3@localhost> <001901c0c301$def8ba00$69f5d58d@itd.umich.edu> <3.0.5.32.20010418204413.009f87b0@mail.well.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:39:59 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: edp record-insert-insert oddity? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6383 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >can anyone explain why when i end record w/ insert to set the tempo, & >finish w/ another insert after 2 or more cycles, the start point of the >loop ends up different than the point at which i originally pressed record? > this happens sometimes, but not always. for instance right this minute, >it happens consistantly on loop 1, but not on loop 2 or 3. > could it be that you found a bug after all those years, Dan? I tried to reproduce it here in vain, maybe you can give some more conditions like parameter settings, sync, brother...? (is this interesting for the list? we can post the result in the end...) -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 19 18:01:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA32664; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:00:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:00:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ADF5FAA.7BFF@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:59:06 -0700 From: scott kungha drengsen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Anyone interested in a jam man? References: <20010419191407.20671.qmail@web5102.mail.yahoo.com> <002901c0c906$126d17a0$7bb387d8@cliff> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_5y7UD.A.89H.A_136@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6385 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'm still interested in selling my Jamman.. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 19 18:02:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA32618; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:59:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:59:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AKASHMUSIC@aol.com Message-ID: <76.9ba9c1a.2810b920@aol.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:56:48 EDT Subject: Fwd: [Philly_ambient] Gate to Moonbase Alpha 2001.04.27: Sonna, Akash, Verso,... To: HellBlinky@aol.com, raydonstudios@yahoo.com, bulb@netway.com, thelaundryroom@the-beach.net, loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com, sonnorize@nni.com, sonorize@nni.com, arose@icdc.com, leslieaq@hotmail.com, Fastcheap@aol.com, FetishesB@aol.com, eck@eck.com, scottb@bloodlink.com, flamingneck@musicville.com, sarahmobley@email.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part1_76.9ba9c1a.2810b920_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 18 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6384 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_76.9ba9c1a.2810b920_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Guys, Very shameless & very intentional gigin promotions goin on here. If you are near or just in and around Downtown Philly on Apr. 27th, 8pm, then come on out and go reprezent yo'self & get to see AKASH perform @UPENN's "Rotunda" FOR FREE! The "Rotunda" is located in University City; West Philadelphia. This AKASH performance will be "loosely" based on Professional Wrestling, Orpheus, and deal with matters related to Sexual Longing, Heaven, Hell, Springtime Awakenings and "Naked" & Spanked-Bliss" while simultaneously pursuing an "Alice in a Wonderland theme as a subtext. We will present ACT III of our on going Transformation SAGA where in this episode, "Alice-Red-Rider" (aka, LORALAI) has somehow forgotten where she put her panties and has to do battle with the Legendary "GreenFrog Prince" to not only save her panties from ruinious ends, but to also reclaim the worlds lustful right to enjoy all that is freaky and unquestionably feels good...& BTW, this green frog is a "mean dude" with various torture devices for punishment too! tune in to find out which ones. But we invite you to join AKASH on this perilous journey into a world of dance, sight, music and texture where truly no spaceship or battery operated sex toy has journeyed before ! *Also, This Show will Feature "The Divine, Miss Kenti", "The Delicious, Madame-Sasha", "FlowerGirl-Sue", "Elizabeth Grace" and as always, our festivities will be hosted & orchestrated by Philly's own Diva-Performance artist-romantic-exhibitionist - switchable-domme "MISS LORALAI" . John Price will be on geetar( gr-30-GT-3-Line6/dl4 and other various looping devices, Cory Neal on upright Bass & the unstoppable Legend Ed Wilcox ( from Temple of Bon Matin ) will be on drums, gun shells-gun-casings-gongs-tire rims and more odd and invented-prepared devices. *Plus ck out all the other characters we are performing with who all are great performers in and of dem' ownselves...WORD ! So.... ******Please Note: Doors will open @ 8pm with no chronology of Performances already underway, also note that Performances will finish like clockwork by usually 11:30pm! & thusly so...just be there...so there ! :) Warm Regards, John Price/AKASH "Remember to Always Kill your expectations" www.akashmusic.com --part1_76.9ba9c1a.2810b920_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: From: Jprice01@aol.com Full-name: Jprice01 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:45:44 EDT Subject: Fwd: [Philly_ambient] Gate to Moonbase Alpha 2001.04.27: Sonna, Akash, Verso,... To: AKASHMUSIC@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part2_76.9ba9c1a.2810a878_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 18 --part2_76.9ba9c1a.2810a878_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --part2_76.9ba9c1a.2810a878_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: Received: from rly-xd01.mx.aol.com (rly-xd01.mail.aol.com [172.20.105.166]) by air-xd05.mail.aol.com (v77_r1.36) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:40:47 -0500 Received: from phobos.serve.com (phobos.serve.com [207.8.152.14]) by rly-xd01.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.36) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:40:08 -0400 Received: from phobos.serve.com (IDENT:mailman@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.serve.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3IIeHL27192; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:40:17 -0400 Received: from phobos.serve.com (IDENT:mailman@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by phobos.serve.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3IIaFL27086; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:36:15 -0400 Received: from iname.com (IDENT:root@phobos.serve.com [207.8.152.14]) by phobos.serve.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3IIYKL27030; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:34:20 -0400 Message-ID: <3ADDDE2B.4DDA665D@iname.com> From: "A.N.Varady" Organization: Datarealm X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-14 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pacman_events@phobos.serve.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Subject: [Philly_ambient] Gate to Moonbase Alpha 2001.04.27: Sonna, Akash, Verso, T.o.M. Emit Peels, t.g.Quentini Sender: philly_ambient-admin@phobos.serve.com Errors-To: philly_ambient-admin@phobos.serve.com X-BeenThere: philly_ambient@phobos.serve.com Reply-To: philly_ambient@phobos.serve.com X-Reply-To: spaceling@iname.com List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: a discussion list relevant to Philadelphia Ambient and Experimental Psychedelic Music Enthusiasts List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Original-Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:34:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:34:19 -0400 . . . . .. . . . . GATE TO MOONBASE ALPHA Friday, April 27th, 2001 8:00 PM : Free for all ages at the Rotunda, 4012 Walnut Street :: performing : Sonna Akash Theatre of the Mind The Verso Ensemble Emit Peels and the Great Quentini . . . . .. . . . . THE SERIES The Gate to Moonbase Alpha is a monthly audio shelter for homeless music. So called ambient, space, psychedelic, and improvisational music, find residence here. With support from the Foundation at the University of Pennsylvania, and organized by the Philadelphia Ambient Consortium (Music and Noise), lost sounds are decorated and given their rightful homage by loving and respectful devotees. Attendees are encouraged to bring instruments to make noise. Artists are invited to perform opi of intense beauty or inspired play. THE SPACE Built in 1911, the Rotunda was designed by New York based architects, Carrere and Hastings, who were unaware of the significance of the Site. Nearby diggings for the foundations of a theatre and grocery store at 40th and Walnut, revealed powerful subterranean sonic resonances which were promptly reported to the University. Further exploratory excavations discovered what appeared to be the long lost Gate complex to the Phobos Mining Colony. The construction was immediately halted at the behest of the University Museum, and while negotiations for the entire site between the University and the theatre and grocery store investors were taking place, we managed to get an allowance to use the Rotunda for our own creative experiments. Initially, our intent was to trigger the sonic resonance used in the Gate's jaunt mechanism (as outlined in Bester, 1956), providing a temporary but reliable portal to Phobos. Although we did not succeed in this goal during the first season, phenomena experienced at our "shows" has helped us to reappraise the significance of the Rotunda building itself. Lay opinion holds that the Rotunda, through our sonic experiments last season, has since become a living architectural bio-pattern reflecting the ancient designs of the Gate mechanism miles below. In order for the precious Rotunda organism not to "die", we now must "feed" it with our musical offerings. THE ARTISTS This month, offering up into the gaping maw of our Rotund Gate, are six artists/ensembles whose sensibilities of tone and texture, play and scientific reason, represent our finest and most sincere gesture to the beast we have invented and grown. Summaries of the artist's histories, and examples of their music follow. Afterwards, please read the directions and summary of expectations and rules included for your interest and safety. SONNA [ http://www.temporaryresidence.com/ ] by Daron Garner, Fakejazz.com: Sonna (pronounced "sauna"), from Baltimore, began in January 1998. After meeting each other at an art institute, Jeremy DeVine, owner and operator of the label Temporary Residence Limited, joined an already existing three-piece of Chris Mackie, Jim Redd, and Paul Petersan. After playing shows in and around Baltimore and recording the These Windows are Pistons EP, Paul moved to Austin, TX, and Drew Nelson took his place in the band. Lineup stabilized, the band is fresh off the heals [October 2000] of a recording session with Steve Albini at Electrical Audio where they were recording their debut album...read more at http://www.fakejazz.com/interviews/sonnaiv.shtml o)) listen to Sonna in real audio: http://www.temporaryresidence.com/www/raudio/sonna.08.ram AKASH (according to Akash's John Price [summary edit by Aharon]): The early AKASH shows began with John Price doing solo space music improves at Fetishes boutique in early 1998. AKASH was not even called AKASH back then but John and Kali soon saw many areas of possibility in conjunction with Performance and sexual expression. AKASH was born. Other shows were conducted in downtown Philadelphia Adult Bookstores, (the 25 cent jerk off rooms as one female fan called them). And so with that came the actualization of That which was unquestionably AKASH. We all enjoyed Visual representations of Erotica & we found that working in areas where we could all be sincere and relate to the performance environment without a lot of the pretenses and constructions most people bring to regular clubs and bars, seriously added new twists to the newly formed AKASH performances. Most interestingly, we found playing in Adult Bookstores and going on tour all over town from Philly to NYC at a different Bookstore each week, totally pushed new areas in audience and performer relationships in ways we never thought could happen. Ed Wilcox's Background as an underground musical colossus definitely helped the sound and rhythmic thunder of AKASH and allowed us more textural and timbre areas of variation and intensity. Ed Wilcox happened to be walking by us unloading for a show in an adult bookstore and saw the guitars and mikes and said what type of gig are u guys playing...we knew who he was and immediately asked if he would be interested in joining and Ed said "sign me uP". ed has been with us ever since then. Ed is very musical and very intuitive in his playing and personality which is extremely passionate, charming, fun and psychologically intense. Loralai came on board for the Philly Fringe Fest. We met her reading poetry in The basement of Fetishes boutique and fell in Love with her style and delivery of erotic exhibitionism and performance art blended with cutting edge spoken word dialog. The Stuff you will hear at any AKASH performance is usually done live and right there on the spot. The AKASH Approach involves thinking like a DJ in a number of processes. AKASH starts from the premise that the musicians already have the record collection in their heads and they just need to do some remixing on the spot. John & Ed are inventing and traveling both forward and backward thorough shared musical imaginations while expressly being "in the moment" & not having to lock in to any particular time signature or MIDI time code, though they do sometimes )...cuz we can groove and we stew our textures .( synth and Guitar Loops, samplers, etc. ) In AKASH we have a polished and very canned synthetic/textural sound that is at times either hokey, ethereal and or heavy or hard boppin. read the full interview or o)) listen to Akash at http://simpletone.com/pacman/artsits/akash/akash.htm THEATRE OF THE MIND Mark Baechtle, aka Theatre of the Mind, has been performing live in a variety of venues around Philadelphia, New York and Baltimore for many years. T.o.M. performances have included art installations at the Philadelphia Museum of Contemporary Art, live music and dance performance at the Science Building and Annenberg Theatre in Philadelphia, outdoor festivals in St. Peter's Village, Hemp Festivals and coffee houses as well as the infamous Woodstock Festival Gatherings. Theatre of the Mind held residencey in producing music and writing for Ausdruckstanz Dance Theater between 1985 and 1990. Mark's other collaborations include bands such as "Arttek" and "Mr. Mark and the Siezmatics" and have appeared in clubs, theaters and galleries as well as frequent live performances on WMUH radio. "Veil of Eden" was created for a 1994, 1995 appearance for the original Woodstock gathering. Theatre of the Mind produced and performed a weekly series called "The Portal" where at some part of the evening guest musicians would be invited onstage for a jam session. More recently, in 1998 T.o.M. produced and performed a monthly series called "Electrolust" in which computer-generated videos, DJ's and featured guest performers were included as part of the evening's event. In 1998, Mark Baechtle was organizing an ambient/weird/space music series at Upstairs at Nicks. Featuring mostly local artists these events were our inspiration for the Consortium and the Gate to Moonbase Alpha performance series. We were disappointed at the lack of attendance to some truly great gigs and felt deeply that bars like Nicks were an awful setting for such mind expanding music. The Electrolust series died late that year but the performances were all recorded by Mark. We'll be trying to get those recordings available here at simpletone. Always a pleasure to watch, Mark operates synthesizers and drum machine's to create an entrancing non-linear space trip. For the last two years though he's been immersed in his studio, releasing two albums and looking forward to his gig at the Gate to Moonbase Alpha in 2001. Mark sort of looks like a grizzled Biker guy with leather jacket and hat. You can always make a good friend by introducing yourself to this cool space faring fellow. read more or o)) listen to Theatre of the Mind at http://simpletone.com/pacman/artsits/mark_baechtle/ THE VERSO ENSEMBLE Verso is a direct descendant of Sounds, an ensemble which was on the Philadelphia scene in the early '80s doing prestructured improvisations in a new composition system. Venues included the Wet Spot and the Painted Bride as well as the WRTI studios for several late night broadcasts in the winter of 1984. Thereafter, Sounds took a seventeen year break, turning up again in 2000 at the Philadelphia Fringe with a new name, Verso, and a new style of improvisation which was still based on the same composition system. Paul Billbrough plays acoustic or electric guitar with Verso. His performance style helps to make the music exciting and meaningful. Paul earned a degree in music performance at West Chester U. in PA and Montclair State College in NJ. He has played in many bands, including Verso's predecessor, Sounds, the She Males, Throttle, Third Eye Nation, and Humbleman Band. and has scored music for The Egg Family puppet theatre and Gennexus Dance Troope. Paul also plays bass guitar, keyboards and kitchen utensils, and has been playing music for twenty-four years. Paula Diehl's music education was obtained at American U. in Washington, DC and at Temple U. Her main interest is composition but she does play the piano, some cello, and keyboard. Her instrument in Verso is the keyboard. From it, she tells the members when it is time to move into a new section of the music, when to get louder or softer, etc. Diehl was in the field of choreography from 1984 to 1993. During that period she wrote music for her dance or composed dance for her music. Bill Bussone, Jr. plays the composed percussion line for Verso improvs. He has lived in Delaware County for many years and has racked up experience playing drums for a large variety of bands, including ASHTRAY, Kathead, and Square and the Roots, and playing percussion for Peptones and Brown Brothers, bands which do everything from jazz, blues, funk, rhythm and blues to soul. To fill in this schedule, Bussone teaches drums in the School District as well as privately, instructs and arranges percussion for a number of marching bands in the area and plays for high and middle school musicals. To balance these activities, Bussone judges School District bands, and is an Honorary Member of the Tri-M. Music Honor Society. The music in use in Verso's improvisations is based on Diehl's own system of composition. In brief, it concerns the gradual decrease of interlock of fourths, leading to their total separation from each other at the end of the music. A certain number of these intervals are used in each of the three to five parts which constitute an improv. Two features, openness and closure of the fourths on one or both sides, are the basic elements of musical interaction. The KB plays the pitches which represent these features; they constitute a kind of drone. The guitar and, if included, the piano play the exposed notes. The percussionist plays a composed line which represents what is going on in each section of the music. He can choose the tempo of this line, but cannot change the line. The same is true of the guitarist and keyboard player; they can only play the pitches they are given. An improv usually lasts between fifteen and thirty minutes. EMIT PEELS Emit Peels is Shok, his Guitar, Percussion, and Synths. At the Gate to Moonbase Alpha, he will be backed by dancers and a film presentation. Gina describes his music as visual, very sensual and atmospheric, almost lazy, but just as tight. Shok's presence in Philadelphia was established with his work on zeitmahl (drum n bass, samples, dark moody tunes), Anita Haxswa, Lavender Hill Mob, and plenty of other projects. Two of his tracks appear on the submit_wkdu compilation. We're not sure what his film is except that it's his work and maybe it'll be a window into what he's been doing in Los Angeles for the last half a year or so. We know he's been doing something interesting with a philly talent, Jimi Budah (electronica, indie rock, etc). They send songs back and forth while he is in California... Jimi in philly, Shok in L.A. The project is called calidelphia. Jimi does a song, sends it to shok, who adds to it and fixes it up, and they collaborate that way. http://www.mp3.com/calidelphia o)) listen to Emit Peels at http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/22/emit_peels.html http://www.mp3.com/trik THE GREAT QUENTINI : Performance artist/dancer the Great Quentini, dressed as a yeti or man-bird, dressed as a stilted alien scavenger, talking to Barbie, performing public rituals to popcorn poppers, pounding away on pots and styrofoam, and generally inspiring the genius out of us to go out and make good on the creative prowess we're endowed with, and which he makes look so easy to be playful with, and romp within. Why is the Great Quentini here? Answer: Greatness. Plus, maybe some day he'll play Dungeons and Dragons with me. Or maybe he already has, what is the Gate but a game map superimposed on a simple structure: a Friday night performance series. Can you see the lines, the symbols, and conventions, the secret doors, the treasures, the mind-flayer behind the corner? Quentin can. He is the exoteric game master. We finally miked the Gate to record one of Quentin's pieces. Captured is the audio and no video, so you will have to imagine what Quentin is doing when you listen to these. View pics or o)) listen to the Great Quentini at: https://phobos.simpletone.com/index.php?path=the_great_quentini Just click 'ok' when prompted for a username and password RULES and EXPECTATIONS If the jaunt mechanism is activated after 8:00PM and you have not yet arrived, then you will have missed your opportunity to suck air on Phobos. So arrive as close to 8:00 PM as you can. Also, if you come late then you'll miss some rare music by some quite obscure and wonderful artists. In between sets, you are invited to create cacophony, so bring an instrument of music or noise. If you have any opinions on the sound quality or volume which is seriously impacting your enjoyment of the evening, see Aharon Varady, the fellow in the orange jumpsuit who seems to demand so much attention before and after each performance. Some comestibles will be supplied by the Comet Coffeehouse (located around the corner on 41st Street between Walnut & Chestnut). Hot Cider, Iced Ginger Tea, and assorted pastries are all FREE. You should definitely bring your own protein food though. If you can, bring VEGETARIAN food to share for the potluck. ALL THIS TAKES PLACE AT THE ROTUNDA, 4012 WALNUT STREET, FRIDAY APRIL 27th AT 8 O'CLOCK PM (ends sometime after 12 midnight). Rotunda Building Information: http://www.facilities.upenn.edu/mapsBldgs/view_bldg.php3?id=140 A Map for the Rotunda in Philly: http://www.facilities.upenn.edu/mapsBldgs/view_map.php3?id=85 ---------------------------- Artists who are interested in performing at the Gate should bring a demo cd and get it to Aharon by the end of the evening. The CD itself should be marked with all the relevant contact info. ALL OUR MOONBASE ARE COLLECTIVELY OWNED: The Gate to MoonBase Alpha performance series is funded with a budget from the University of Pennsylvania and made possible by the volunteer contributions of the Foundation Crew (a UPenn student run organization promoting cultural exchange and opportunities in and for West Philadelphia). That means due to the low overhead all artists are paid and there is absolutely no cover! If you wish, donations can be made to the Consortium or the Foundation to support future events. The Foundation website is: http://www.upenn.edu/philly/foundation/ The Gate to Moonbase Alpha is organized by the Philadelphia Ambient Consortium (Music and Noise), or PAC(MaN) for short, an autonomous cabal centered in Philadelphia, PA. It was established in 1998 to unify the city's dedicated space, ambient, psychedelic instrumental, improvisational, drone, new classical, and experimental electronic audiophiles by providing a centralized information resource and the kernel of a community. We hope that through this activity, the scene may grow strong and large enough to make our work largely irrelevant. But we remain constantly inspired by our disgust in how typical music cliques will represent a narrow musical appreciation, pose as a "sub-culture", and even worse, manifest itself in real generational gaps. The Gate is our attempt to present an eclectic performance series representing the rich diversity of new sound artists, young and old, and a wide spectrum of styles. The seemingly arbitrary nature of the selections is the work of the curator, Aharon Varady ( spaceling@iname.com ), and co-organizer Gina Renzi ( mistsojorn@aol.com ). PAC(MaN) is sponsored by the volunteer contributions of its members. While it is not technically a nonprofit organization by U.S. law, PAC(MaN) does not seek any gain for its organizing members, and intends to follow the principles as set forth in Hakim Bey's Temporal Autonomous Zone: http://www.hermetic.com/bey/taz_cont.html PAC(MaN) publishes the PAC(MaN) Event Update, administers the philly_ambient discussion list, curates the Gate to Moonbase Alpha performance series, and operates the simpletone.com website. For more information, email spaceling@iname.com , browse to http://simpletone.com or write THE PHILADELPHIA AMBIENT CONSORTIUM (MUSIC AND NOISE), 512 S. 46th St. Philadelphia PA 19143,tel: 1 215 349 7725. _______________________________________________ Pacman_events mailing list Pacman_events@phobos.serve.com http://phobos.serve.com/mailman/listinfo/pacman_events _______________________________________________ Philly_ambient mailing list Philly_ambient@phobos.serve.com Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Edit Options at: http://phobos.serve.com/mailman/listinfo/philly_ambient a PAC(MaN) List http://simpletone.com --part2_76.9ba9c1a.2810a878_boundary-- --part1_76.9ba9c1a.2810b920_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 19 18:14:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA00647; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:12:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:12:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003801c0c91e$7bda9ba0$11624442@austin.rr.com> From: "Jimmy George" To: References: <20010419191407.20671.qmail@web5102.mail.yahoo.com> <002901c0c906$126d17a0$7bb387d8@cliff> <3ADF5FAA.7BFF@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Anyone interested in a jam man? Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:17:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6386 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com how much scott? ----- Original Message ----- From: scott kungha drengsen To: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 4:59 PM Subject: Re: Anyone interested in a jam man? > I'm still interested in selling my Jamman.. > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 19 18:59:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01645; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:46:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:46:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 18:45:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Burnett To: Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Theremin Frostwave Spacebeam In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6387 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Direct Spacebeam page http://www.melmusic.com.au/fw/spacebeam.html melbourne Music http://www.melmusic.com.au/ thanks for getting the price quote! best, Steve On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, David Potter wrote: > > > > Hi guys, here's the info on the Theremin Frostwave Spacebeam..... Looks > like it might be fun...take care Om and Out Papa Dave > http://www.melmusic.au > > > > > > >From: "melmusic" > >Reply-To: "melmusic" > >To: "David Potter" > >Subject: Re: Theremin Frostwave Spacebeam > >Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:22:30 +1000 > > > >Hi David, > >Thanks for your enquiry, > >The Spacebeam is still available for sale. > >The cost is $US165.00 > >Freight by Fed Ex would be an additional $35.00US > >Freight by insured airmail would be an additional $20.00US > >for payment and ordering details please go to > >www.melmusic.com.au/order > >Cheers > >Choo Packer > >MELMUSIC > >melmusic.com.au > >523 North Rd. Ormond > >Victoria 3163 Australia > >www.melmusic.com.au > >Ph. (61-3 )-95782426 Fax(61-3)95785112 > >BUY! SELL! TRADE! > >AUSTRALIA'S LARGEST USED MUSIC GEAR SHOP > >Vintage Equipment,Vintage Spare Parts,User/Owner Manuals. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: David Potter > > To: melmusic@melmusic.com.au > > Sent: Wednesday, 18 April 2001 8:02 > > Subject: Theremin Frostwave Spacebeam > > > > > > Hi Melmusic, I am Papa Dave in Santa Cruz, Ca. I saw that the Theremin > Frostwave Spacebeam did not sell. I am interested. papadave55@hotmail.com > please send info on how I can get one....Thanks > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > -- onNow: ---------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Burnett Admin, webslingerZ sburnett@webslingerz.com http://www.webslingerz.com/sburnett From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 19 19:57:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04220; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:52:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:52:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010419234929.9614.qmail@web6105.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:49:29 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Chris?= Subject: Controlling GR33/VG88 with a CASIO PG300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6388 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi loopers Does anyone know if it is possible to control the Roland gear VG88/Gr33 with a CASIO PG300 guitar. This is a midi guitar which has a hex pickup on it. I understand that the guy who deisigned the CASIO guitars also designed the Roland ones to. Thanks Chris ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 19 20:50:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA06741; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:49:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:49:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ADF879C.91AF0681@bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:49:34 -0400 From: steve Reply-To: studio_t@bellsouth.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Controlling GR33/VG88 with a CASIO PG300 References: <20010419234929.9614.qmail@web6105.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6389 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com chris, nope the casio and roland units are incompatable peace, steve From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 20 03:31:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA22798; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 03:28:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 03:28:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3ADFE4EA.7390@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 00:27:39 -0700 From: scott kungha drengsen X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Anyone interested in a jam man? References: <20010419191407.20671.qmail@web5102.mail.yahoo.com> <002901c0c906$126d17a0$7bb387d8@cliff> <3ADF5FAA.7BFF@earthlink.net> <003801c0c91e$7bda9ba0$11624442@austin.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6390 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com It's w/32 sec memory. 325.00 o.b.o I think.. Please contact me off list.. kungha@earthlink.net From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 20 11:03:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA06847; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:58:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:58:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003d01c0c9a8$c31cd7f0$6b44230a@mlameyer02> X-Sybari-Space: 00000000 00000000 00000000 From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: References: <3AD9762A.29721.2067F3@localhost><001901c0c301$def8ba00$69f5d58d@itd.umich.edu><3.0.5.32.20010418204413.009f87b0@mail.well.com> Subject: Re: edp record-insert-insert oddity? - please post Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 10:46:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6391 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes, I'd say please post. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthias Grob" To: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 5:39 PM Subject: Re: edp record-insert-insert oddity? > >can anyone explain why when i end record w/ insert to set the tempo, & > >finish w/ another insert after 2 or more cycles, the start point of the > >loop ends up different than the point at which i originally pressed record? > > this happens sometimes, but not always. for instance right this minute, > >it happens consistantly on loop 1, but not on loop 2 or 3. > > > > could it be that you found a bug after all those years, Dan? > I tried to reproduce it here in vain, maybe you can give some more > conditions like parameter settings, sync, brother...? > (is this interesting for the list? we can post the result in the end...) > -- > > > ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 20 11:18:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA08251; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:11:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 11:11:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Delivered-To: fixup-Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com@fixme User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:09:18 -0700 Subject: Gig Spam [Seattle]: Electrochakra @ Zoka Coffee & Tea (4/20/01 8PM) From: Tiktok To: "Looper's Delight" Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <0UtApD.A.gAC.iFF46@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6392 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Electrochakra will be playing a laid-back show at the Zoka Coffee and Tea Company (2200 N. 56th Street) today (Friday), April 20th, starting at 8PM. Admission is free. Be seeing you, Travis Hartnett Electrochakra -- New official Electrochakra website: www.electrochakra.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 20 15:30:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA18404; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:26:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:26:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 15:24:54 -0400 Subject: NYC Performance Tues. April 24 From: David Myers To: ~music spam list Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6393 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tuesday, April 24, 2001 8 pm The Knitting Factory, AlterKnit Space 74 Leonard Street, Manhattan, 212-219-3055 RECESS, an ongoing series of experimental improvisation maenad (G3, Virus and piano) http://www.refinedclinicalresearch.com/index.html "Like most people, I modify recordings of everyday life with synthesizers and samplers. The resulting music sounds like someone lying awake at night, trying to find a good station on the radio. Musical influences are many, but include Coil, Nurse with Wound and The Hafler Trio." Charles Cohen (analog Buchla Music Easel) http://www.voicenet.com/~ccohen "you know....the usual" (Pauline Oliveros: "Well Charles your "usual" is pretty unusual and wonderful") David Lee Myers (multiprocessor feedback, devices, loops) http://www.pulsewidth.com "The idea is that an effects device is fed some of its own output--much like a squealing speaker which accidentally feeds the microphone supplying its input--and electrons begin to flow as they wish. The trick is to shape this flow, select the feedback paths which create an aesthetically pleasing (or whatever) direction and shape. What is required is several devices whose business it is to bend sound into various shapes, and a routing scheme which allows them to speak to each other and to themselves." From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 20 16:35:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA21023; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:29:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:29:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 13:25:54 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: loop structure idea Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6394 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hey loopheads, got an idea last night that is basically impossible for me to create with my current setup, but i thought i would pass it on and see if any of ya Kyma folks might be able to tackle it...or maybe some interesting threads might spin off of it...who knows? Capture a loop of a specified length. for this mental excercise, let's call the loop . So is of a certain length. Now take a copy of that loop and make subdivisions of it (like taking a sample and cutting it into sections). It could be subdivisions of 2, 4, 8, 16, or odd numbers, maybe. Let's use a subdivision of 4 for simplicity sake. We now have 4 smaller loops of , , , and . Then the subdivisions get multiplied by 4, so they equal the original loop length...ala x 4, or x 4, etc. What happens if that is playing alongside the original loop? you have and on the other loop you have playing along side it, or make sense? Now what if you capture the original loop and it's chugging away. Could this subdivision be done behind the scenes? How long would it take before you could access it? Could you subdivide and multiply all 4 subdivision elements? ie: , , , Then, could you switch between those subdivided loops in real time while the original loop is playing? Do Do Do Re Re Fa Fa Fa Fa Fa Fa Do Do Me Me Me Me. Essentially slicing the original loop by an integer, taking all the slices and multiplying themselves back out by the integer, then being able to play a stream of any slice and switch between slices alongside the original loop. Seems like you could have some interesting melodies happening... perhaps the Againinator can do this without a hitch... thoughts, anyone? rich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 20 16:52:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA21482; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:50:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:50:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [208.16.219.10] From: "Pete Mundt" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loop structure idea Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:48:03 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2001 20:48:03.0977 (UTC) FILETIME=[31F89790:01C0C9DB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6395 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The Repeater maybe? The only way I could see myself doing such a thing, would be through the use of software like ACID. Great idea though, if I get a chance to do it I'll post the mp3 results. But besides the great looping concept,one thing about your mental exercise I really like is the way you were able to sneak "DO ME" into that whole thing! Sorry I couldnt help but notice that as I'm sitting here mumbling "Do Do Do Re Re Fa Fa Fa Fa Fa Fa Do Do Me Me Me Me." > >got an idea last night that is basically impossible for me to create >with my current setup, but i thought i would pass it on and see if >any of ya Kyma folks might be able to tackle it...or maybe some >interesting threads might spin off of it...who knows? > >Capture a loop of a specified length. for this mental excercise, >let's call the loop . > >So is of a certain length. Now take a copy of that >loop and make subdivisions of it (like taking a sample and cutting it >into sections). It could be subdivisions of 2, 4, 8, 16, or odd >numbers, maybe. Let's use a subdivision of 4 for simplicity sake. >We now have 4 smaller loops of , , , and . Then the >subdivisions get multiplied by 4, so they equal the original loop >length...ala x 4, or x 4, etc. > >What happens if that is playing alongside the original loop? > >you have > >and on the other loop you have Do> playing along side it, or Re> > >make sense? > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 20 17:05:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA22872; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:00:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:00:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Cataldo De Palma" To: Subject: R: Oberheim Echoplex for sale Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:52:56 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <93.8c57108.27f1516b@cs.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6396 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dear Nyama, is your Obherheim still for sale ? I've got one but since I'd like to get stereo loops I might be interested in purchasing another one. honestly I don't know what offer to make for now and, by the way, there's the fact that you we live in different countries (I'm from Italy). Just let me know if you haven't sold it yet Aldo -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Nyama74@cs.com [mailto:Nyama74@cs.com] Inviato: martedì 27 marzo 2001 4.14 A: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Oggetto: Oberheim Echoplex for sale I just wanted to let everyone know that I have an Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro for sale. It's a v.5 with 198 seconds of recording time, and it comes with the EFC-7 footcontroller. It was purchased in 1997, but it has seen very little use and is in excellent condition. If you are interested, please make an offer. I live in St. Louis, MO. Thanks...Blaine From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 20 17:06:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA22871; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:00:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:00:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Cataldo De Palma" To: Subject: R: Echoplex Digital Pro Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 22:53:11 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <0902714C0BC8D11191CC00805F9FB0C0012045F8@mobexch001.halnet.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6397 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com dear Terry, Since Echoplex was not available at the time in Europe (97) I just bought it from the STates. my cousin bought it in White Plains, a little shop near New York. or just ask http://matthias.grob.org/ who is one of the genious who contributed both to the avalon guitar and the Echoplex aldo -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Terry Goodman [mailto:Terry.Goodman@Halliburton.com] Inviato: mercoledì 28 marzo 2001 19.46 A: 'loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com' Oggetto: Echoplex Digital Pro I know you've been asked a million times, but.......Could you please tell me where I can purchase an Echoplex Digital Pro? Thanks in advance. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 20 17:43:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA23918; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:38:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:38:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE0AC31.8718AABF@fullcompass.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:37:53 -0500 From: "Jim Schaefer" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Subject: Rang upgrade. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6398 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I just installed the 2.0 version today. Wow!! huge improvement. I would recommend anyone with the older version to update. - James From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 20 18:52:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA26335; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:35:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 18:35:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000501c0c9e9$df500460$0100a8c0@DanielPezzotti> From: "Daniel Pezzotti" To: References: <3AE0AC31.8718AABF@fullcompass.com> Subject: Re: Rang upgrade. Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:31:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6399 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com nice to hear that, James! Greetings from Switzerland Daniel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Schaefer" To: Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 11:37 PM Subject: Rang upgrade. I just installed the 2.0 version today. Wow!! huge improvement. I would recommend anyone with the older version to update. - James From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 20 19:52:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA28840; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:50:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:50:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <8f.9a57d0f.281224e5@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:48:53 EDT Subject: Re: Newbie needs help with his sampling scenario To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6400 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com r, re: yer msg, below: try any of these? zoom tabletop sampler, korg electribe tabletop sampler (es1), yamaha tabletop sampler. also: soon coming: the electrix repeater. or: a laptop running lisa, reaktor, battery, acid 3.0, etc. also: soon coming: raDiaL. best, dt / splattercell >Hello all. nice to be here. > > > >Here's my dilemma. > > > >I want to trigger monophonic samples with a footswitch. Simple request >I > >would think. > > > >Years ago, I used to use any number of digital delay units with a "sampling" > > >feature that would allow you to sample something then hit a footswitch >and > >trigger it. Hit it again, and it starts from the beginning. You don't have >to > >hold the switch down. you don't have to do anything special. Just hit the > > >switch and hear the sample.Great. > > > >I got greedy and wanted storage so I could call up each sample for each >song > >in my live set.things got complicated. > > > >I bought an archaic Akai S612 sampler. Yes, very cheap. It was incredibly > > >lo-fi (to my joy) and worked pretty easily. I had MIDI Solutions build >me a > >custom MIDI footswitch controller that sent a NOTE ON message at a certain > > >note number and NO NOTE OFF, so it would play the complete sample all the >way > >through (the samples, by the way are usually three second/one or two measure > > >guitar parts...kinda like MBV or Curve type things) > > > >My rig now works like it should.However, I'm sick of carrying 4 rack spaces > > >of antique technology. I'm sick of having to load samples from a Quick >Disk > >at the beginning of EVERY song, and I'm sick of the sampler not working >when > >it doesn't feel like it.I would LOVE to replace it with a newer cheap > >alternative. Something the size of a Dr. Sample would be nice, but I couldn't > > >get the Dr. Sample to work like I want it to. > > > >Does anyone have any suggestions? > > > >Another way to describe what I want is instead of using guitar samples, >say I > >wanted to trigger drum sounds (not loops). You want to hear the complete >drum > >sample when you hit the pad/switch, and retrigger it monophonically (not > > >polyphonically) everytime you hit it. Besides a $1000 SP808, what could >I use? > > > >Thank you > >Roger From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 20 20:00:28 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA29186; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:58:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:58:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010420235741.1171.qmail@web5105.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 16:57:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Alx Subject: Re: Newbie needs help with his sampling scenario To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <8f.9a57d0f.281224e5@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6401 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --- Hedewa7@aol.com wrote: > also: soon coming: raDiaL. What company is making this software?, any links to read some specs?. Thanks. Alx. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 20 20:06:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA30451; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:03:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:03:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE0CE21.4FCCBE36@altruistmusic.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:02:42 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loop structure idea References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6402 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Two Echoplexes could do this. The only reason you'd need two would be to get a polyphony happening between the original loop and the subdivisions. (If you only want to hear one loop at a time, one Echoplex with five loops could handle it.) Quantized remultiply is the operative feature here. If you're fleet of finger, you could splice all the bits together in a minute or two... --Andre LaFosse http://www.altruistmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 20 20:12:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA30626; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:09:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:09:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.200.129.67] Reply-To: jon.wagner@stanfordalumni.org From: "Jon Wagner" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: loop structure idea Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:08:32 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Apr 2001 00:08:32.0751 (UTC) FILETIME=[33ADD7F0:01C0C9F7] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6403 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Two Echoplexes could do this. The only reason you'd need two would be >to get a polyphony happening between the original loop and the >subdivisions. (If you only want to hear one loop at a time, one >Echoplex with five loops could handle it.) Actually I think 1 echoplex and 1 of any other looping device could do it. I've been dreaming lately of using a DL4 fed into an EDP and I think this combo would take care of your request... bye- jon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 21 00:30:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA07243; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:04:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:04:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [216.148.1.172] From: "Peter Underwood" To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Subject: OT: Anyone have a PDF of Opcode's 128X Manual Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 20:51:44 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Apr 2001 03:51:44.0870 (UTC) FILETIME=[62010860:01C0CA16] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6404 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey Cats, A few years ago I bought a used 64XTC (Opcode MIDI Interface & Sync box), at the time you could download PDFs of the manuals from their website (at least I think that is where I got it from.) I just bought a used 128X ('nother MIDI interface) and went to go see about getting the PDF of its manual, only they don't seem to have them available anymore. So, I was wondering if any of you cats out there in LoopLand might happen to have such a beast and if you did could you forward it to me? I'll be your best friend. Even if you don't have it but know a site where I can dl it from, that would be groovy too. Thanks a heap, -skully _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 21 00:32:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA07291; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:07:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 00:07:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "omjn" To: "Loopers-Delight" Subject: RE: loop structure idea Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 11:53:36 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6405 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi a little bit the same. i have a larger proportional score for 22 proportional loops i put together after a period of kandinsky adoration. was hoping to get the feedback from those of a circular mindset. if anyone is interested i'm thinking of throwing it to the wind to see where... it'd be nice if it weren't only the leaves in confines of my mind making noise with it. the 22 loops could easily accomodate 22 loopers. imagine...sorry. grand schematics i know, but feel free to contact me if you want any info. maybe i could set it out in parts on the list for anyone interested? michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 21 06:08:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA17498; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 05:42:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 05:42:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: <3a.13fd5fa0.2812ad33@aol.com> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 05:30:27 EDT Subject: Re: Newbie needs help with his sampling scenario To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6406 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com gendel777@yahoo.com writes: >What company is making this software?, any links to >read some specs?. cycling74.com best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 21 08:20:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA21716; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 07:54:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 07:54:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE1728F.C1C6860F@club-internet.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:44:15 +0200 From: Emmanuel PERILLE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re : loop structure idea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6407 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com DJRND2, DJRND3, CYCLOOPS ... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 21 09:46:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA24995; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:20:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 09:20:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Saundra L. Shackelford & Larry Madden" To: Subject: Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 07:06:20 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0CA31.91AE4760" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6408 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0CA31.91AE4760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please remove me from list Saundra Shackelford ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0CA31.91AE4760 Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="winmail.dat" eJ8+IhQNAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEGgAMADgAAANEHBAAVAAcABgAAAAYABAEB A5AGAHwEAAAkAAAACwACAAEAAAALACMAAAAAAAMAJgAAAAAACwApAAAAAAADADYAAAAAAAIBcQAB AAAAFgAAAAHAymPavxUVwJ02IxHVnWWcCA+mZzsAAAIBHQwBAAAAFQAAAFNNVFA6VEFaWk1PQEZN VEMuQ09NAAAAAAsAAQ4AAAAAQAAGDgAsm89jysABAgEKDgEAAAAYAAAAAAAAAKvKI3DJe78RsDD+ hb8wXOzCgAAACwAfDgEAAAACAQkQAQAAAI8AAACLAAAApgAAAExaRnWgY1cbAwAKAHJjcGcxMjUW MgD4C2BuDhAwMzNPAfcCpAPjAgBjaArAc7BldDAgBxMCgH0KgZJ2CJB3awuAZDQMYA5jAFALAwu1 IFBsZdphESAgCXAEYHYUIAeAciADUiBsBAAFQAYQdRkSgHJhBgAQ8GNrZb5sAhALIgrACoAR4QAX UAALAAGACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAADhQAAAAAAAAMAA4AIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAA ABCFAAAAAAAAAwAHgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAUoUAACdqAQAeAAmACCAGAAAAAADAAAAA AAAARgAAAABUhQAAAQAAAAQAAAA5LjAAHgAKgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAANoUAAAEAAAAB AAAAAAAAAB4AC4AIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAADeFAAABAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAeAAyACCAGAAAA AADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAA4hQAAAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAACwANgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAgoUA AAEAAAALADqACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAOhQAAAAAAAAMAPIAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABG AAAAABGFAAAAAAAAAwA9gAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAGIUAAAAAAAADAF2ACCAGAAAAAADA AAAAAAAARgAAAAABhQAAAAAAAAsAeIAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAAaFAAAAAAAAAgH4DwEA AAAQAAAAq8ojcMl7vxGwMP6FvzBc7AIB+g8BAAAAEAAAAKvKI3DJe78RsDD+hb8wXOwCAfsPAQAA AIIAAAAAAAAAOKG7EAXlEBqhuwgAKypWwgAAUFNUUFJYLkRMTAAAAAAAAAAATklUQfm/uAEAqgA3 2W4AAABDOlxXSU5ET1dTXExvY2FsIFNldHRpbmdzXEFwcGxpY2F0aW9uIERhdGFcTWljcm9zb2Z0 XE91dGxvb2tcb3V0bG9vay5wc3QAAAADAP4PBQAAAAMADTT9NwAAAgF/AAEAAAAvAAAAPExQQkJM QURBRkZFUEpNRUFKRkpIR0VCSENGQUEudGF6em1vQGZtdGMuY29tPgAAAwAGEEXbTIsDAAcQKAAA AAMAEBAAAAAAAwAREAAAAAAeAAgQAQAAACkAAABQTEVBU0VSRU1PVkVNRUZST01MSVNUU0FVTkRS QVNIQUNLRUxGT1JEAAAAAObH ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C0CA31.91AE4760-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 21 12:30:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA31330; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:05:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:05:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE1ACEC.5C66C8C3@club-internet.fr> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:53:17 +0200 From: Emmanuel PERILLE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Cycloops Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------0E6AAC6A5AE8588F00A4CA08" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6409 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --------------0E6AAC6A5AE8588F00A4CA08 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > EXTRÉMN? ZAJÍMAVÁ INOVACE V RUDÉM KOUTKU: RUDÝ ZVUK UVÁDÍ KYKLOOPY - NOVÝ TO > VZORKOVA? > :)...že tomu titulku moc nerozumíte...:)...no dobrá, trošku jsme zažertovali a zahráli si na mírn? natvrdlé p?ekladatele. Když > povolíme uzdu angli?tin? a p?idáme pár podp?rných sl?vek, bude výsledek o poznání srozumiteln?jší: FIRMA RED SOUND > UVÁDÍ NOVÝ SAMPLER "CYCLOOPS". Že je to tak malinko lepší?! Tak konec žertík? a honem do poznávání. > http://www.hurrican.cz/2/ Any looper to translate please ? Thanks EP --------------0E6AAC6A5AE8588F00A4CA08 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 
EXTRÉMN? ZAJÍMAVÁ INOVACE V RUDÉM KOUTKU: RUDÝ ZVUK UVÁDÍ KYKLOOPY - NOVÝ TO
                                 VZORKOVA? 
  :)...že tomu titulku moc nerozumíte...:)...no dobrá, trošku jsme zažertovali a zahráli si na mírn? natvrdlé p?ekladatele. Když
  povolíme uzdu angli?tin? a p?idáme pár podp?rných sl?vek, bude výsledek o poznání srozumiteln?jší: FIRMA RED SOUND
  UVÁDÍ NOVÝ SAMPLER "CYCLOOPS". Že je to tak malinko lepší?! Tak konec žertík? a honem do poznávání.


http://www.hurrican.cz/2/

Any looper to translate please ?

Thanks

EP
 
  --------------0E6AAC6A5AE8588F00A4CA08-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 21 13:53:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA01812; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:27:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:27:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002901c0ca86$aa3803c0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <3AE1ACEC.5C66C8C3@club-internet.fr> Subject: TipJar? PayPal? Suggestions? Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:15:23 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01C0CA8F.086BF200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6410 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C0CA8F.086BF200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everybody, As you can tell from the subject this is another "funny question" but = nonetheless important. Obviously it becomes necessary at some point to = process some sort of e-commerce via ones web site, in our cases mostly = to sell CDs. Two methods I've come up with have been PayPal = (http://www.paypal.com) and TipJar (http://www.tipjar.com). As many = previously-unknown operators for credit card processing want as much as = 30c per transaction I'd like to know what sort of satisfaction you all = have had with either of these firms, if not others you're happy with. = Frankly, I haven't the resources to get a merchant account, so these = must then be the options in front. Your assistance, is as usual, = appreciated. Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! http://www.mp3.com/StephenGoodman * New MP3 Releases! ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C0CA8F.086BF200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Everybody,
 
As you can tell from the subject this is = another "funny=20 question" but nonetheless important.  Obviously it becomes = necessary at=20 some point to process some sort of e-commerce via ones web site, in our = cases=20 mostly to sell CDs.  Two methods I've come up with have been PayPal = (http://www.paypal.com) and TipJar (http://www.tipjar.com).  As many = previously-unknown operators for credit card processing want as much as = 30c per=20 transaction I'd like to know what sort of satisfaction you all have had = with=20 either of these firms, if not others you're happy with.  Frankly, I = haven't=20 the resources to get a merchant account, so these must then be the = options in=20 front.  Your assistance, is as usual, appreciated.
 
Stephen Goodman
http://www.earthlig= ht.net/Gallery_Front.html=20 - Cartoons & Illustrations
http://www.earthlight.net/Stud= ios *=20 The free Loop of the Week!
http://www.mp3.com/StephenGood= man *=20 New MP3 Releases!
------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C0CA8F.086BF200-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 22 07:04:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA07606; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 06:38:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 06:38:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE2B4AB.DA73C350@club-internet.fr> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:38:36 +0200 From: Emmanuel PERILLE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Italian Cycloops Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6411 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com http://www.djlatino.net/tecnologie/tecnologie.asp?ID_Prodotto=12 Hey Italoop, could you translate for me please ? What do they say concerning the disavantages ("Contro") ? Thanks EP From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 22 08:22:15 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA11609; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 08:20:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 08:20:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000901c0cb26$74fb5cc0$f6ad1597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: References: <3AE2B4AB.DA73C350@club-internet.fr> Subject: Re: Italian Cycloops Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 14:19:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Emmanuel, this is full page translation: "Price £900.000 (little more than 400$) New fron Namm show, sampler for loops.Its main feature is the ability to "hear" the beat and sets an audio loop according to them. You can choose if a measure is made up of 1-2-4-8-16 beats and it will take care of it all. PROS It could be useful if it worked fine with our Latin music, but Ithink that it has the same limitations of automix function of Pioneer CMX5000, that is it can't "hear" time. CONS Price !!!900.000£ seems too much if it doesn't work. Moreover it is some more gear to bring along. FINAL judgement: This time resist to temptations. Better to buy a nice mixer with internal sampler to make up loops as you like. Keep the money for something better. There are samplers with more functions for tha same money on the market." IN A MORE INTERNATIONAL LINGO : IT SUCKS BAAAAAAAAAAAD ! ! ! Wait for Repeater....the personal demo I had in Frankfurt was UNBELIEVABLE...hold on...you'll be rewarded!!!! Best Italoop ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emmanuel PERILLE" To: Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 12:38 PM Subject: Italian Cycloops > http://www.djlatino.net/tecnologie/tecnologie.asp?ID_Prodotto=12 > > Hey Italoop, could you translate for me please ? What do they say > concerning the disavantages ("Contro") ? > > Thanks > > EP > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 22 08:46:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA11968; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 08:44:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 08:44:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE2D1E7.A8D7C843@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 08:43:19 -0400 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Rang upgrade. References: <3AE0AC31.8718AABF@fullcompass.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Where do I go to get the upgrade? I read the review by Mike Nelson and comments from many of my fellow loopers and it sounds like the perfect no-brainer looper for me. peace, jeff Jim Schaefer wrote: > I just installed the 2.0 version today. Wow!! huge improvement. I would > recommend anyone with the older version to update. > > - James From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 22 10:09:11 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15531; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 10:07:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 10:07:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Todd Pafford To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Rang upgrade. Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 10:09:29 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.95.2] Content-Type: text/plain References: <3AE0AC31.8718AABF@fullcompass.com> <3AE2D1E7.A8D7C843@bellsouth.net> In-Reply-To: <3AE2D1E7.A8D7C843@bellsouth.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01042210092900.11297@localhost.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, Jeff Duke wrote: > Where do I go to get the upgrade? I read the review by Mike Nelson and > comments from many of my fellow loopers and it sounds like the perfect > no-brainer looper for me. > peace, > jeff Contact that very same Mike Nelson. He makes the 'Rang and handles the upgrade. Depending on when your 'Rang was made one of two things will happen: 1) you have a newer 'Rang and he'll send you the chip to swap, or 2) your 'Rang is older and needs the chip swap along with some other fiddling in which case you'll need to send the whole unit back to Texas for Mike to do the upgrade. He can tell you which is the case based on serial number. I'm in a hurry and don't have Mike's email address on hand, but I'm sure you'll be able to find it easily in the LD archive if you don't already have it Good luck, Todd From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 22 10:19:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA15752; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 10:18:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 10:18:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.212.145.20] Reply-To: noskrid1@netzero.net From: "derek dirckson" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 14:17:19 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Apr 2001 14:17:19.0545 (UTC) FILETIME=[F0D3AA90:01C0CB36] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com



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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 22 11:44:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18224; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 11:41:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 11:41:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE2FBE4.3EAD1B7@club-internet.fr> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:42:28 +0200 From: Emmanuel PERILLE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Italian Cycloops References: <3AE2B4AB.DA73C350@club-internet.fr> <000901c0cb26$74fb5cc0$f6ad1597@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Italo De Angelis wrote: > Emmanuel, this is full page translation: > > "Price £900.000 (little more than 400$) > New fron Namm show, sampler for loops.Its main feature is the ability to > "hear" the beat and sets an audio loop according to them. You can choose if > a measure is made up of 1-2-4-8-16 beats and it will take care of it all. > PROS > It could be useful if it worked fine with our Latin music, but Ithink that > it has the same limitations of automix function of Pioneer CMX5000, that is > it can't "hear" time. > CONS > Price !!!900.000£ seems too much if it doesn't work. Moreover it is some > more gear to bring along. > > FINAL judgement: > This time resist to temptations. Better to buy a nice mixer with internal > sampler to make up loops as you like. Keep the money for something better. > There are samplers with more functions for tha same money on the market." > > IN A MORE INTERNATIONAL LINGO : IT SUCKS BAAAAAAAAAAAD ! ! ! > > Wait for Repeater....the personal demo I had in Frankfurt was > UNBELIEVABLE...hold on...you'll be rewarded!!!! > Best Italoop > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Emmanuel PERILLE" > To: > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 12:38 PM > Subject: Italian Cycloops > > > http://www.djlatino.net/tecnologie/tecnologie.asp?ID_Prodotto=12 > > > > Hey Italoop, could you translate for me please ? What do they say > > concerning the disavantages ("Contro") ? > > > > Thanks > > > > EP > > > > Thanks for your translation, Italoop Seems like the italians haven't checked it out yet. Btw, did you see Cycloops in demo in Frankfurt, it was in the same hall ? EP From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 22 11:51:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA18501; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 11:49:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 11:49:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE31942.73ABD61@vtx.ch> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:47:46 +0000 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Italian Cycloops References: <3AE2B4AB.DA73C350@club-internet.fr> <000901c0cb26$74fb5cc0$f6ad1597@default> <3AE2FBE4.3EAD1B7@club-internet.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Emmanuel PERILLE wrote: > > Italo De Angelis wrote: > > > Emmanuel, this is full page translation: > > > > "Price £900.000 (little more than 400$) > > New fron Namm show, sampler for loops.Its main feature is the ability to > > "hear" the beat and sets an audio loop according to them. You can choose if > > a measure is made up of 1-2-4-8-16 beats and it will take care of it all. > > PROS > > It could be useful if it worked fine with our Latin music, but Ithink that > > it has the same limitations of automix function of Pioneer CMX5000, that is > > it can't "hear" time. > > CONS > > Price !!!900.000£ seems too much if it doesn't work. Moreover it is some > > more gear to bring along. > > > > FINAL judgement: > > This time resist to temptations. Better to buy a nice mixer with internal > > sampler to make up loops as you like. Keep the money for something better. > > There are samplers with more functions for tha same money on the market." > > > > IN A MORE INTERNATIONAL LINGO : IT SUCKS BAAAAAAAAAAAD ! ! ! > > > > Wait for Repeater....the personal demo I had in Frankfurt was > > UNBELIEVABLE...hold on...you'll be rewarded!!!! > > Best Italoop Italo please dont you know that Emanuel _IS_ the engeneer behind Cycloops ? ............ Ah la la.. Claude > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Emmanuel PERILLE" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 12:38 PM > > Subject: Italian Cycloops > > > > > http://www.djlatino.net/tecnologie/tecnologie.asp?ID_Prodotto=12 > > > > > > Hey Italoop, could you translate for me please ? What do they say > > > concerning the disavantages ("Contro") ? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > EP > > > > > > > > Thanks for your translation, Italoop > > Seems like the italians haven't checked it out yet. > > Btw, did you see Cycloops in demo in Frankfurt, it was in the same hall ? > > EP From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 22 15:26:38 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA27027; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:24:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:24:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000b01c0cb61$c38f7980$c9b11597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: References: <3AE2B4AB.DA73C350@club-internet.fr> <000901c0cb26$74fb5cc0$f6ad1597@default> <3AE2FBE4.3EAD1B7@club-internet.fr> <3AE31942.73ABD61@vtx.ch> Subject: Re: Italian Cycloops Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 21:23:49 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com SO WHAT? I translated what I read there! It seems that it sucks!!! according to the guy that wrote that review... I don't know Cycloops, I didn't check it out at Frankfurt. This is the very first time I hear of that...PERIOD. All I can say is what I know about Repeater, since I had a demo of it!!! I hope that what I read and translated for Emmanuel what HE ASKED me to translate...that's it!!! If that is not true...KOOL! If that is TRUE well...he has to be embarassed...not me. He didn't even say "who" he "is".... In the mean time MY ORVILLE rules.... do your homeworX best Italoop ----- Original Message ----- From: "Claude Voit" To: Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 7:47 PM Subject: Re: Italian Cycloops > Emmanuel PERILLE wrote: > > > > Italo De Angelis wrote: > > > > > Emmanuel, this is full page translation: > > > > > > "Price £900.000 (little more than 400$) > > > New fron Namm show, sampler for loops.Its main feature is the ability to > > > "hear" the beat and sets an audio loop according to them. You can choose if > > > a measure is made up of 1-2-4-8-16 beats and it will take care of it all. > > > PROS > > > It could be useful if it worked fine with our Latin music, but Ithink that > > > it has the same limitations of automix function of Pioneer CMX5000, that is > > > it can't "hear" time. > > > CONS > > > Price !!!900.000£ seems too much if it doesn't work. Moreover it is some > > > more gear to bring along. > > > > > > FINAL judgement: > > > This time resist to temptations. Better to buy a nice mixer with internal > > > sampler to make up loops as you like. Keep the money for something better. > > > There are samplers with more functions for tha same money on the market." > > > > > > IN A MORE INTERNATIONAL LINGO : IT SUCKS BAAAAAAAAAAAD ! ! ! > > > > > > Wait for Repeater....the personal demo I had in Frankfurt was > > > UNBELIEVABLE...hold on...you'll be rewarded!!!! > > > Best Italoop > > Italo please > > dont you know that Emanuel _IS_ the engeneer behind Cycloops ? > > ............ > > Ah la la.. > > Claude > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Emmanuel PERILLE" > > > To: > > > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 12:38 PM > > > Subject: Italian Cycloops > > > > > > > http://www.djlatino.net/tecnologie/tecnologie.asp?ID_Prodotto=12 > > > > > > > > Hey Italoop, could you translate for me please ? What do they say > > > > concerning the disavantages ("Contro") ? > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > EP > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your translation, Italoop > > > > Seems like the italians haven't checked it out yet. > > > > Btw, did you see Cycloops in demo in Frankfurt, it was in the same hall ? > > > > EP > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 22 16:10:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA29182; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 16:08:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 16:08:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 16:07:48 -0400 Subject: Re: Italian Cycloops From: Ivan Zavada To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <000b01c0cb61$c38f7980$c9b11597@default> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com You dont have to be a smart ass From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 22 16:26:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA29577; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 16:24:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 16:24:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <002901c0ca86$aa3803c0$0201a8c0@stephen> References: <3AE1ACEC.5C66C8C3@club-internet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 13:23:42 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Kim Flint Subject: Re: TipJar? PayPal? Suggestions? Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 10:15 AM -0700 4/21/01, Stephen P. Goodman wrote: > Hi Everybody, As you can tell from the subject this is another >"funny question" but nonetheless important. Obviously it becomes >necessary at some point to process some sort of e-commerce via ones web >site, in our cases mostly to sell CDs. Two methods I've come up with >have been PayPal (http://www.paypal.com) and TipJar >(http://www.tipjar.com). As many previously-unknown operators for credit >card processing want as much as 30c per transaction I'd like to know what >sort of satisfaction you all have had with either of these firms, if not >others you're happy with. Frankly, I haven't the resources to get a >merchant account, so these must then be the options in front. Your >assistance, is as usual, appreciated. Stephen Goodman Coincidentally, I've just added some PayPal buttons on the Looper's Delight site so generous people who want to help support LD can easily make donations. (hint, hint...:-) I never heard of Tipjar, but I picked PayPal because I already had a PayPal account for another reason. It was really easy to extend it to use for Looper's Delight donations, so that seemed the obvious thing to do. I like PayPal because it is very simple for people to use, and convenient for me as well. People can pay with credit cards or directly from their bank account, and it is international. They already have millions of users, so chances are people already have a paypal account and trust it. If not, it only takes a minute to sign up and doesn't cost the user anything. And given the state of the dotcom business, paypal at least appears to be sticking around for a while. Hopefully this works out for me and stops the flow of red ink that Looper's Delight creates in my personal accounting. Check back in a month, I'll have a good idea if it works by then. So far I have no idea, cause nobody has donated anything yet. Shameless begging: And hey, if any of you out there feel that Looper's Delight has helped you out and you would like to give a little something back, I would very much appreciate a donation of some kind. Any amount is fine. The site does cost money to run, and it's gotta come from somewhere! If for no other reason, somebody click the link and send me a buck so I know it's working right. I'll even put the link right here to make it easy: https://www.paypal.com/xclick/business=kflint%40loopers-delight.com&item_name=Lo opers+Delight+Donation+-+any+contribution+is+appreciated%21%21&return=http%3A//w ww.loopers-delight.com/loop.html thanks! kim ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@loopers-delight.com | http://www.loopers-delight.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 22 17:03:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA31379; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:01:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:01:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004901c0cb6e$d76d9ce0$f4bf4118@gv.shawcable.net> From: "Andrew Rickard" To: Subject: unsubscribe Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 13:57:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com take my name off your list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unsubscribe UNSUBSCRIBE From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 22 17:55:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA32530; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:53:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:53:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Sender: landman@pop.ncal.verio.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 14:59:57 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: landman@wco.com (Mark Landman) Subject: Re: Italian Cycloops Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id RAA32497 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Gawd, I hope some small amount of thoughtfulness and/or consideration was lost in the translation to a second language here... I don't know about homework, but a brush-up on common courtesy is certainly in order. Mark (Who must admit that he too is enthused by Repeater, and is anxiously awaiting it's arrival) >SO WHAT? I translated what I read there! It seems that it sucks!!! >according to the guy that wrote that review... >I don't know Cycloops, I didn't check it out at Frankfurt. This is the very >first time I hear of that...PERIOD. >All I can say is what I know about Repeater, since I had a demo of it!!! >I hope that what I read and translated for Emmanuel what HE ASKED me to >translate...that's it!!! >If that is not true...KOOL! >If that is TRUE well...he has to be embarassed...not me. He didn't even say >"who" he "is".... > >In the mean time MY ORVILLE rules.... > >do your homeworX > >best Italoop > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Claude Voit" >To: >Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 7:47 PM >Subject: Re: Italian Cycloops > > >> Emmanuel PERILLE wrote: >> > >> > Italo De Angelis wrote: >> > >> > > Emmanuel, this is full page translation: >> > > >> > > "Price £900.000 (little more than 400$) >> > > New fron Namm show, sampler for loops.Its main feature is the ability >to >> > > "hear" the beat and sets an audio loop according to them. You can >choose if >> > > a measure is made up of 1-2-4-8-16 beats and it will take care of it >all. >> > > PROS >> > > It could be useful if it worked fine with our Latin music, but Ithink >that >> > > it has the same limitations of automix function of Pioneer CMX5000, >that is >> > > it can't "hear" time. >> > > CONS >> > > Price !!!900.000£ seems too much if it doesn't work. Moreover it is >some >> > > more gear to bring along. >> > > >> > > FINAL judgement: >> > > This time resist to temptations. Better to buy a nice mixer with >internal >> > > sampler to make up loops as you like. Keep the money for something >better. >> > > There are samplers with more functions for tha same money on the >market." >> > > >> > > IN A MORE INTERNATIONAL LINGO : IT SUCKS BAAAAAAAAAAAD ! ! ! >> > > >> > > Wait for Repeater....the personal demo I had in Frankfurt was >> > > UNBELIEVABLE...hold on...you'll be rewarded!!!! >> > > Best Italoop >> >> Italo please >> >> dont you know that Emanuel _IS_ the engeneer behind Cycloops ? >> >> ............ >> >> Ah la la.. >> >> Claude >> >> >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Emmanuel PERILLE" >> > > To: >> > > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 12:38 PM >> > > Subject: Italian Cycloops >> > > >> > > > http://www.djlatino.net/tecnologie/tecnologie.asp?ID_Prodotto=12 >> > > > >> > > > Hey Italoop, could you translate for me please ? What do they say >> > > > concerning the disavantages ("Contro") ? >> > > > >> > > > Thanks >> > > > >> > > > EP >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> > Thanks for your translation, Italoop >> > >> > Seems like the italians haven't checked it out yet. >> > >> > Btw, did you see Cycloops in demo in Frankfurt, it was in the same hall >? >> > >> > EP >> From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 22 17:59:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA32697; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:57:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 17:57:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE353E4.2C011AF7@club-internet.fr> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 23:57:57 +0200 From: Emmanuel PERILLE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Italian Cycloops References: <3AE2B4AB.DA73C350@club-internet.fr> <000901c0cb26$74fb5cc0$f6ad1597@default> <3AE2FBE4.3EAD1B7@club-internet.fr> <3AE31942.73ABD61@vtx.ch> <000b01c0cb61$c38f7980$c9b11597@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <8ZOhM.A.n-H.mO146@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Italo De Angelis wrote: > SO WHAT? I translated what I read there! It seems that it sucks!!! > according to the guy that wrote that review... > I don't know Cycloops, I didn't check it out at Frankfurt. This is the very > first time I hear of that...PERIOD. > All I can say is what I know about Repeater, since I had a demo of it!!! > I hope that what I read and translated for Emmanuel what HE ASKED me to > translate...that's it!!! > If that is not true...KOOL! > If that is TRUE well...he has to be embarassed...not me. He didn't even say > "who" he "is".... > > In the mean time MY ORVILLE rules.... > > do your homeworX > > best Italoop > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Claude Voit" > To: > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 7:47 PM > Subject: Re: Italian Cycloops > > > Emmanuel PERILLE wrote: > > > > > > Italo De Angelis wrote: > > > > > > > Emmanuel, this is full page translation: > > > > > > > > "Price £900.000 (little more than 400$) > > > > New fron Namm show, sampler for loops.Its main feature is the ability > to > > > > "hear" the beat and sets an audio loop according to them. You can > choose if > > > > a measure is made up of 1-2-4-8-16 beats and it will take care of it > all. > > > > PROS > > > > It could be useful if it worked fine with our Latin music, but Ithink > that > > > > it has the same limitations of automix function of Pioneer CMX5000, > that is > > > > it can't "hear" time. > > > > CONS > > > > Price !!!900.000£ seems too much if it doesn't work. Moreover it is > some > > > > more gear to bring along. > > > > > > > > FINAL judgement: > > > > This time resist to temptations. Better to buy a nice mixer with > internal > > > > sampler to make up loops as you like. Keep the money for something > better. > > > > There are samplers with more functions for tha same money on the > market." > > > > > > > > IN A MORE INTERNATIONAL LINGO : IT SUCKS BAAAAAAAAAAAD ! ! ! > > > > > > > > Wait for Repeater....the personal demo I had in Frankfurt was > > > > UNBELIEVABLE...hold on...you'll be rewarded!!!! > > > > Best Italoop > > > > Italo please > > > > dont you know that Emanuel _IS_ the engeneer behind Cycloops ? > > > > ............ > > > > Ah la la.. > > > > Claude > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Emmanuel PERILLE" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 12:38 PM > > > > Subject: Italian Cycloops > > > > > > > > > http://www.djlatino.net/tecnologie/tecnologie.asp?ID_Prodotto=12 > > > > > > > > > > Hey Italoop, could you translate for me please ? What do they say > > > > > concerning the disavantages ("Contro") ? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > EP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your translation, Italoop > > > > > > Seems like the italians haven't checked it out yet. > > > > > > Btw, did you see Cycloops in demo in Frankfurt, it was in the same hall > ? > > > > > > EP > > Don't worry, Italoop, you are wellcome Although Redsound claims it also for studio, I would pretend Cycloops exclusively made for discotheques. They should have called it the world 's first direct-to-use fully automatic club sampler. It is not exactly the same market like Repeater which seems to be more based for studio and live musicians. It is true sometimes Cycloops is a bit long to "hear" the beat, but when it hears it, you can trust it. This is what DJs want I think : trusting the unit they accept to play with, or leave it. Well, nobody has done what Redsound and I try to do now actually, even Gemini didn't want to spend the money for such a concept. The most fun of it is neither Redsound nor I are able to make it, since it stands for the strict combinasion between the 2 technics, Redsound V2 BPM engine + DJRND2 looping technology. The recipie is a miracle, but it works !!! Yeah, would people spend 400US$ for 6 loops ? Well, wait and see once the product is released, but I keep on betting. Quality sometimes worths, I know Redsound is the leader in terms of BPM technology, this will make the difference, ... very stable ... the loops never move and follow the source ... like a turntable once correctly pitched ... believe me I still believe Gemini where wrong, and Artie Cabasso let me understand it in 1998 the day we met the last time, even before DJRND2 was born ... Yes I am the naughty little duck ... to be continued And also a great honor to be compared with the CMX5000 ... well the concept is starting EP From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 22 18:47:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA02110; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 18:45:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 18:45:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010422184446.007e8810@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 18:44:46 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: unsubscribe In-Reply-To: <004901c0cb6e$d76d9ce0$f4bf4118@gv.shawcable.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes, Virginia, there IS a ganja fairy... 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At 01:57 PM 4/22/01 -0700, you wrote: >take my name off your list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >Unsubscribe >UNSUBSCRIBE From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 22 18:48:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA02151; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 18:47:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 18:47:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Message-Id: <200104222246.PAA16021@swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:48:09 -0700 Subject: Re: The new issue of Guitar Player... To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="macintosh" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com as a proud user of the pcm42 for loopin i was happy to see 'leni stern' mention it in her introduction to loops by*the*'dave torn'. goinloopy stanner > > And, it's very purple! >> > >> > Also in GP, an interview with Leni Stern. >> > >> > ===== >> > John Tidwell From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 22 19:10:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA03932; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:08:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:08:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001701c0cb80$df9dff60$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <3.0.5.32.20010422184446.007e8810@pop.ici.net> Subject: Re: unsubscribe Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 00:06:31 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "Tim Nelson" opined: > Yes, Virginia, there IS a ganja fairy... Where? Where? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 22 19:12:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04170; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:11:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:11:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE364E0.2309B13F@altruistmusic.com> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 16:10:25 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: TipJar? PayPal? Suggestions? References: <3AE1ACEC.5C66C8C3@club-internet.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > At 10:15 AM -0700 4/21/01, Stephen P. Goodman wrote: > > Hi Everybody, As you can tell from the subject this is another > >"funny question" but nonetheless important. Obviously it becomes > >necessary at some point to process some sort of e-commerce via ones web > >site, in our cases mostly to sell CDs. Two methods I've come up with > >have been PayPal (http://www.paypal.com) and TipJar > >(http://www.tipjar.com). As many previously-unknown operators for credit > >card processing want as much as 30c per transaction I'd like to know what > >sort of satisfaction you all have had with either of these firms, if not > >others you're happy with. Frankly, I haven't the resources to get a > >merchant account, so these must then be the options in front. Your > >assistance, is as usual, appreciated. Stephen Goodman I don't know anything about Tipjar, but I would suggest that if people don't need to pay for something, then they probably won't. I would set up a strict system: you want the CD, you pay X amount for it. I'd also strongly recommend having at least two or three seperate ways of ordering the music, and would further recommend a site like cdbaby.com or cdstreet.com to carry the items. Yes, they do take a percentage of sales, but a lot of customers are more comfortable ordering through established retail outlets than directly from someone they've never met. Aside from that, you never know when something might happen to one particular outlet. About two weeks after I released my CD, the sole e-commerce provider I was using at the time went through a bug-ridden server upgrade that left me without any online ordering capabilities for over a month. Not good! I know of some artists who have set up ordering through both paypal and cdbaby, and they get purchases through both outlets. If you're selling a CD, I would definitely say you should have it stocked in at least one or two indie sites. Anyway, --Andre LaFosse http://www.altruistmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 22 19:35:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA04879; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:34:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:34:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000701c0cb84$ac945de0$0101a8c0@pavilion> From: "Brian Mulvey" To: Subject: Line 6 Filter Modeller? Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:32:20 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I saw the ad for a new pedal from Line 6, the purple filter modeller. Anyone have any info about this..? Can't find ANYTHING on the web. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 22 19:59:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA05376; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:58:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:58:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 16:57:32 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Line 6 Filter Modeller? In-reply-to: <000701c0cb84$ac945de0$0101a8c0@pavilion> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <000701c0cb84$ac945de0$0101a8c0@pavilion> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 7:32 PM -0400 4/22/01, Brian Mulvey wrote: >I saw the ad for a new pedal from Line 6, the purple filter modeller. What ad? Where? -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD zvonar@zvonar.com (818) 788-2202 voice zvonar@LCSaudio.com (818) 788-2203 fax zvonar@well.com http://www.zvonar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 22 20:01:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA06526; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:59:57 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 19:59:57 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 16:54:34 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: TipJar? PayPal? Suggestions? In-reply-to: <3AE364E0.2309B13F@altruistmusic.com> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <3AE1ACEC.5C66C8C3@club-internet.fr> <3AE364E0.2309B13F@altruistmusic.com> Resent-Message-ID: <5KofNC.A.VTB.w_246@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 4:10 PM -0700 4/22/01, Andre LaFosse wrote: >I don't know anything about Tipjar http://www.tipjar.com/ -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD zvonar@zvonar.com (818) 788-2202 voice zvonar@LCSaudio.com (818) 788-2203 fax zvonar@well.com http://www.zvonar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 22 21:21:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA09040; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 21:19:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 21:19:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "matt davignon" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: mega-ultra cassette player - does such a thing exist? Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 18:18:03 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Apr 2001 01:18:03.0623 (UTC) FILETIME=[3E89E770:01C0CB93] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey everyone, I'm fantasizing about getting something like a cassette player specifically engineered for live musical performance. Does something like this exist? These days, there are performance turntables (Technics SL-2100) and a multitude of performance CD players. How about tape? I guess this is a simultaneous request for knowledge about the existence of such a product, and also tossing out the idea to equipment manufacturer/designers who peruse this site. I'd be looking for something with some or more of the following features: 1) Variable speed: Something like an analog pitch wheel that can make the tape travel anywhere between half and double speed. 2) Instant reverse: The ability to instantly be able to switch something from forward to reverse and back again. (Instantly as in I wouldn't have to remove the tape to flip it over. It's okay if there's a minute pause or pitch bend as the tape changes directions.) This would be independent from: 3) Instant tape flipping ability: As in what you have in most car stereos. 4) Both a locking and a non-locking pause button: A locking pause button would be what you're used to seeing in a normal tape deck. A non-locking pause button would be one that you have to keep holding down for the tape to remain paused. 5) Live cueing, rewinding ability: Like on a hand held tape recorder. If you press rewind while play is down, you hear that chirpy sound. If you hit rewind alone, it just rewinds. 6) Sliders for volume and panning. Preferably mounted on top of the thing for easy use. Sliders win more points than knobs. The panning knob wouldn't necessarily be panning the output of the device, but panning which channel of the tape the input signal is picked up from. Not as important: 1) Mechanical (not electronic) tape transport buttons: These are the most common tape player control buttons. The kind where when you press play, the play button remains down. This would be opposed to digital controls, which have less moving parts and are supposed to last longer. I just prefer the mechanical ones. 2) Top mounted controls (for ease of use) 3) 4 channels!! (Okay, this is just letting fantasy play too much here.) Wouldn't it be great to have the option of playing the front and back of a tape at the same time? Or to use tapes recorded in a 4-track? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 23 04:42:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA25821; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 04:40:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 04:40:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002b01c0cbd0$ba1665c0$a0a26099@izmmpc33.izm-m.fhg.de> Reply-To: "Rainer Straschill" From: "Rainer Straschill" To: Subject: Re: mega-ultra cassette player - does such a thing exist? Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:37:55 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01C0CBE1.75B1F190" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C0CBE1.75B1F190 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Matt, there is a company around which told us something like this exists since = October 2000. It doesn't use tape however. It is called repeater. Sorry, couldn't resist... Rainer =20 =20 =20 I'd be looking for something with some or more of the following = features: =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C0CBE1.75B1F190 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Matt,
 
there is a company around which told us something = like this=20 exists since October 2000. It doesn't use tape however. It is called=20 repeater.
 
Sorry, couldn't resist...
 
       =20 Rainer



I'd=20 be looking for something with some or more of the following=20 features:

------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C0CBE1.75B1F190-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 23 10:44:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA03960; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:41:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:41:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <01bb01c0cc03$45659fb0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: Subject: Re: loop structure idea Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:39:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Interesting that you should mention this. I have Kyma loop structure that I call a "Fragmenter" that does pretty much what you describe. It works a little bit differently due to the internals of Kyma. For example, the subdivided loop implicitly multiplies to length of the master loop due to the way slave loops are synced to master loops. Also, you can adjust the Fragmenter structure however you like. The most fun seems to be with a random select of the particular fragement to play. So after n repeats, a different fragment is looped. With one Fragmenter, it's fun to experiment with rhythms. Say that my original pattern of consists of four variations of a groove, then the Fragmenter with randomizing selections plays a constantly shifting pattern. For real fun, I tried two Fragmenters, one is a "master" Fragmenter and the other is slaved to it. The master is in the left and the slave Fragmenter is in the right channel. I played a different drum into the master and slave, each with a pattern of variations. Then sit back and listen! It sounds like two drummers playing variations back and forth. Less is definitely more. Simpler patterns produce a more cohesive sound. With one Fragmenter, I tried looping spoken word. A good phrase is something like, "This is a test, Is it not? ----". I spoke the words equally spaced with a rest at the end. On playback, you hear new sentences, some of which is nonsense of course. But you do hear things like, "Is it a test. This is not? ---- A test. --- This is not? a test. Test. Test. This is a test. --- A test this is not?" etc. I saw the Fragmenter as a step to something I call a Fugue-ifier, which you can imagine what it would do. > Could this subdivision be done behind the scenes? The computation of the loop points is determined by the length of the original loop. It takes one sample clock period to compute. I use a 44.1 Khz sample rate so the subdivision takes about (1 / 44100) or about 0.0000227 seconds to setup. >How long would it take before you could access it? Nearly instantantly. > Could you subdivide and multiply all 4 subdivision elements? Do you mean fragment the fragments? Interesting idea. > Then, could you switch between those subdivided loops in real time > while the original loop is playing? No problem. The loops switching occurs at the end of each loop. With some effort it could occur immediately but I don't think that would sounds as good. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 23 10:54:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA04293; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:52:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:52:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010423105019.009eb620@mail.pdfsystems.com> X-Sender: robert@mail.pdfsystems.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:52:11 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "anti:clockwise" Subject: nyc gig promo Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_2609112==_.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --=====================_2609112==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed metro area creatures take note: the pink pony presents: anti:clockwise sat. 4/28 10.00 -> ... in a collaboration with vortex visualist chris jordan the pony is located on ludlow street, south of houston. *********************************** just what the world needs.... another frikkin url --=====================_2609112==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
metro area creatures take note:

the pink pony presents:
anti:clockwise
sat. 4/28   10.00 -> ...
in a collaboration with
vortex visualist chris jordan

the pony is located on ludlow street, south of houston.



***********************************
just what the world needs....
another frikkin url
--=====================_2609112==_.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 23 12:32:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA08061; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:25:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:25:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:21:55 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: Re: TipJar? PayPal? Suggestions? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id MAA08001 Resent-Message-ID: <8Y6dZC.A.Q9B.9bF56@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I've been really happy using PayPal on eBay transactions. No other experience using them though. Seems pretty simple and fast. -Miko >>> "Stephen P. Goodman" 04/21/01 10:15AM >>> Hi Everybody, As you can tell from the subject this is another "funny question" but nonetheless important. Obviously it becomes necessary at some point to process some sort of e-commerce via ones web site, in our cases mostly to sell CDs. Two methods I've come up with have been PayPal (http://www.paypal.com) and TipJar (http://www.tipjar.com). As many previously-unknown operators for credit card processing want as much as 30c per transaction I'd like to know what sort of satisfaction you all have had with either of these firms, if not others you're happy with. Frankly, I haven't the resources to get a merchant account, so these must then be the options in front. Your assistance, is as usual, appreciated. Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! http://www.mp3.com/StephenGoodman * New MP3 Releases! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 23 12:34:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA08163; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:31:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:31:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <10.bbbc1ae.2815b161@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:25:05 EDT Subject: Re: mega-ultra cassette player - does such a thing exist? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_10.bbbc1ae.2815b161_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_10.bbbc1ae.2815b161_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit matt.....2 things: 1) what did you have in mind for this beastie? 2) did tim's ganja fairy happen to visit you or are you drinking more coffee than usual.....:).....michael --part1_10.bbbc1ae.2815b161_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit matt.....2 things:
1) what did you have in mind for this beastie?
2) did tim's ganja fairy happen to visit you or are you drinking more coffee
than usual.....:).....michael --part1_10.bbbc1ae.2815b161_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 23 12:56:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA08725; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:54:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:54:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [204.253.195.194] From: "matt davignon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: mega-ultra cassette player - does such a thing exist? Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 09:48:41 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Apr 2001 16:48:41.0875 (UTC) FILETIME=[40BAFE30:01C0CC15] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >From: Nemoguitt@aol.com >matt.....2 things: > 1) what did you have in mind for this beastie? the whole email was about what I had in mind for it! Unless you were talking about cost.... which I estimated being between $200 and $400. > 2) did tim's ganja fairy happen to visit you or are you drinking more >coffee >than usual.....:).....michael Funny you should mention that. Tim _did_ show up on my doorstep this weekend dressed as some sort of fairy. I didn't know it was him though, so I pretended not to be home. Matt _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 23 12:57:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA08718; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:54:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:54:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <98.13bc0511.2815b5b5@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:43:33 EDT Subject: another looper To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_98.13bc0511.2815b5b5_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: <_t28iD.A.iGC.m2F56@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_98.13bc0511.2815b5b5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gp ran a review of the korg "ax 100 G", they thought very highly of it both price and quality wise, they said it had a 6 sec. loop/sampler plus built in expression pedal.....for the price it seems worth checking out.....if you like the zoom 2100, this should interest you.....michael --part1_98.13bc0511.2815b5b5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gp ran a review of the korg "ax 100 G", they thought very highly of it both
price and quality wise, they said it had a 6 sec. loop/sampler plus built in
expression pedal.....for the price it seems worth checking out.....if you
like the zoom 2100, this should interest you.....michael --part1_98.13bc0511.2815b5b5_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 23 14:22:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA12581; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:19:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:19:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01bb01c0cc03$45659fb0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> References: <01bb01c0cc03$45659fb0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:15:41 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: loop structure idea Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com thanks for your responses, everyone. i think Dennis gets the award for manifesting what i had in my head. unfortunately, i don't think a kyma system is in my future! *** NO MORE GEAR PURCHASES THIS YEAR...right, Cliff? :) seeya, rich >Interesting that you should mention this. > >I have Kyma loop structure that I call a "Fragmenter" that does pretty much >what you describe. It works a little bit differently due to the internals >of Kyma. For example, the subdivided loop implicitly multiplies to length >of the master loop due to the way slave loops are synced to master loops. >Also, you can adjust the Fragmenter structure however you like. The most >fun seems to be with a random select of the particular fragement to play. >So after n repeats, a different fragment is looped. > >With one Fragmenter, it's fun to experiment with rhythms. Say that my >original pattern of consists of four variations of a groove, >then the Fragmenter with randomizing selections plays a constantly shifting >pattern. For real fun, I tried two Fragmenters, one is a "master" >Fragmenter and the other is slaved to it. The master is in the left and the >slave Fragmenter is in the right channel. I played a different drum into >the master and slave, each with a pattern of variations. Then sit back and >listen! It sounds like two drummers playing variations back and forth. >Less is definitely more. Simpler patterns produce a more cohesive sound. > >With one Fragmenter, I tried looping spoken word. A good phrase is >something like, "This is a test, Is it not? ----". I spoke the words >equally spaced with a rest at the end. On playback, you hear new sentences, >some of which is nonsense of course. But you do hear things like, "Is it a >test. This is not? ---- A test. --- This is not? a test. Test. Test. >This is a test. --- A test this is not?" etc. > >I saw the Fragmenter as a step to something I call a Fugue-ifier, which you >can imagine what it would do. > >> Could this subdivision be done behind the scenes? > >The computation of the loop points is determined by the length of the >original loop. It takes one sample clock period to compute. I use a 44.1 >Khz sample rate so the subdivision takes about (1 / 44100) or about >0.0000227 seconds to setup. > >>How long would it take before you could access it? > >Nearly instantantly. > >> Could you subdivide and multiply all 4 subdivision elements? > >Do you mean fragment the fragments? Interesting idea. > >> Then, could you switch between those subdivided loops in real time >> while the original loop is playing? > >No problem. The loops switching occurs at the end of each loop. With some >effort it could occur immediately but I don't think that would sounds as >good. > >Dennis Leas >------------------- >dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 23 14:32:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA12839; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:30:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:30:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002d01c0cc23$b1f94940$7bb387d8@cliff> From: "Clifford@BienAppraisers" To: References: <01bb01c0cc03$45659fb0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> Subject: Re: loop structure idea Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:32:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I think I just saw a flying monkey outside my window.............. Cliff ----- Original Message ----- From: "rich" To: Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 11:15 AM Subject: Re: loop structure idea > thanks for your responses, everyone. > > i think Dennis gets the award for manifesting what i had in my head. > > unfortunately, i don't think a kyma system is in my future! > > *** NO MORE GEAR PURCHASES THIS YEAR...right, Cliff? :) > > seeya, > > > rich > > > > > > > >Interesting that you should mention this. > > > >I have Kyma loop structure that I call a "Fragmenter" that does pretty much > >what you describe. It works a little bit differently due to the internals > >of Kyma. For example, the subdivided loop implicitly multiplies to length > >of the master loop due to the way slave loops are synced to master loops. > >Also, you can adjust the Fragmenter structure however you like. The most > >fun seems to be with a random select of the particular fragement to play. > >So after n repeats, a different fragment is looped. > > > >With one Fragmenter, it's fun to experiment with rhythms. Say that my > >original pattern of consists of four variations of a groove, > >then the Fragmenter with randomizing selections plays a constantly shifting > >pattern. For real fun, I tried two Fragmenters, one is a "master" > >Fragmenter and the other is slaved to it. The master is in the left and the > >slave Fragmenter is in the right channel. I played a different drum into > >the master and slave, each with a pattern of variations. Then sit back and > >listen! It sounds like two drummers playing variations back and forth. > >Less is definitely more. Simpler patterns produce a more cohesive sound. > > > >With one Fragmenter, I tried looping spoken word. A good phrase is > >something like, "This is a test, Is it not? ----". I spoke the words > >equally spaced with a rest at the end. On playback, you hear new sentences, > >some of which is nonsense of course. But you do hear things like, "Is it a > >test. This is not? ---- A test. --- This is not? a test. Test. Test. > >This is a test. --- A test this is not?" etc. > > > >I saw the Fragmenter as a step to something I call a Fugue-ifier, which you > >can imagine what it would do. > > > >> Could this subdivision be done behind the scenes? > > > >The computation of the loop points is determined by the length of the > >original loop. It takes one sample clock period to compute. I use a 44.1 > >Khz sample rate so the subdivision takes about (1 / 44100) or about > >0.0000227 seconds to setup. > > > >>How long would it take before you could access it? > > > >Nearly instantantly. > > > >> Could you subdivide and multiply all 4 subdivision elements? > > > >Do you mean fragment the fragments? Interesting idea. > > > >> Then, could you switch between those subdivided loops in real time > >> while the original loop is playing? > > > >No problem. The loops switching occurs at the end of each loop. With some > >effort it could occur immediately but I don't think that would sounds as > >good. > > > >Dennis Leas > >------------------- > >dennis@mdbs.com > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 23 14:33:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA12910; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:31:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:31:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE4758A.FC993A81@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:33:49 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT fairies (was mega-cd blah blah blah) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com matt davignon wrote: > >From: Nemoguitt@aol.com > > >matt.....2 things: > > 1) what did you have in mind for this beastie? > > the whole email was about what I had in mind for it! Unless you were talking > about cost.... which I estimated being between $200 and $400. > > > 2) did tim's ganja fairy happen to visit you or are you drinking more > >coffee > >than usual.....:).....michael > > Funny you should mention that. Tim _did_ show up on my doorstep this weekend > dressed as some sort of fairy. I didn't know it was him though, so I > pretended not to be home. > > Matt > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com that's funny. i saw an episode of *jackass* the other nite with a guy dressed up as the *parking meter fairy*. he was going around putting change in people's expired meters. he sorta got busted by the parking po-lice. looked a lot like tim, come to think of it... lance g. ps: my 7-year-old just lost another tooth yesterday, so we got visited by THAT fairy too...uh, tim? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 23 14:34:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA12912; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:32:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:32:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000b01c0cb61$c38f7980$c9b11597@default> References: <3AE2B4AB.DA73C350@club-internet.fr> <000901c0cb26$74fb5cc0$f6ad1597@default> <3AE2FBE4.3EAD1B7@club-internet.fr> <3AE31942.73ABD61@vtx.ch> <000b01c0cb61$c38f7980$c9b11597@default> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 11:28:05 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: Italian Cycloops Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com italoop, the part about it sucking...you directly translated that? seems to me that the review had some concerns about price and some limitations, and the 'it sucks' part was your own personal addition. and you haven't tried it personally... gee, that leaves your ass out in the wind a bit, doesn't it? emmanual's pleasant response to you seems to indicate who's the reasonable man here, IMO. your orville rules.....snore....oh, sorry, i drifted off there...what were you saying? rich ps. any links to your music would be greatly appreciated >SO WHAT? I translated what I read there! It seems that it sucks!!! >according to the guy that wrote that review... >I don't know Cycloops, I didn't check it out at Frankfurt. This is the very >first time I hear of that...PERIOD. >All I can say is what I know about Repeater, since I had a demo of it!!! >I hope that what I read and translated for Emmanuel what HE ASKED me to >translate...that's it!!! >If that is not true...KOOL! >If that is TRUE well...he has to be embarassed...not me. He didn't even say >"who" he "is".... > >In the mean time MY ORVILLE rules.... > >do your homeworX > >best Italoop From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 23 14:56:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA13480; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:53:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:53:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004101c0cc26$7d09ed40$9283abd4@LucaFormentini> From: "luca" To: Subject: Italian Cycloops Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 20:52:01 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This matter has caught my curiosity, so I have mailed to the site keeper where the review was asking him if they had tried the Cycloops or not. His response was that he didn't make a test to Cycloops because he didn't find one around. His considerations were all about the fact that he had tried Cmx 5000 (Pioneer ??) that wasn't able to catch the groove of latin-american music. So he reached the conclusion that latin-american music is a difficult thing to be automatically catched...... On his review it was really difficult to understand he didn't tried the Cycloops; it seems he did. I am also disappointed he wrote it in that way. About Italo's way of describing the translation, he tried to express the mood in which it has been written. I think the real bad story is that there is people who gives their judgement on a public site about products they haven't seen or touched and this is what Djlatino did. my 2 liras (way less than 2 cents...) luca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 23 15:05:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA14720; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:00:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:00:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 13:42:02 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: loop structure idea To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <00d301c0cc25$16bfd1e0$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 References: <01bb01c0cc03$45659fb0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com come on. you know you want one (kyma). it'll make you cool. it'll make you popular. all the cool kids are doing it. one of us. one of us. one of us. ----- Original Message ----- From: "rich" To: Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 1:15 PM Subject: Re: loop structure idea > thanks for your responses, everyone. > > i think Dennis gets the award for manifesting what i had in my head. > > unfortunately, i don't think a kyma system is in my future! > > *** NO MORE GEAR PURCHASES THIS YEAR...right, Cliff? :) > > seeya, > > > rich > > > > > > > >Interesting that you should mention this. > > > >I have Kyma loop structure that I call a "Fragmenter" that does pretty much > >what you describe. It works a little bit differently due to the internals > >of Kyma. For example, the subdivided loop implicitly multiplies to length > >of the master loop due to the way slave loops are synced to master loops. > >Also, you can adjust the Fragmenter structure however you like. The most > >fun seems to be with a random select of the particular fragement to play. > >So after n repeats, a different fragment is looped. > > > >With one Fragmenter, it's fun to experiment with rhythms. Say that my > >original pattern of consists of four variations of a groove, > >then the Fragmenter with randomizing selections plays a constantly shifting > >pattern. For real fun, I tried two Fragmenters, one is a "master" > >Fragmenter and the other is slaved to it. The master is in the left and the > >slave Fragmenter is in the right channel. I played a different drum into > >the master and slave, each with a pattern of variations. Then sit back and > >listen! It sounds like two drummers playing variations back and forth. > >Less is definitely more. Simpler patterns produce a more cohesive sound. > > > >With one Fragmenter, I tried looping spoken word. A good phrase is > >something like, "This is a test, Is it not? ----". I spoke the words > >equally spaced with a rest at the end. On playback, you hear new sentences, > >some of which is nonsense of course. But you do hear things like, "Is it a > >test. This is not? ---- A test. --- This is not? a test. Test. Test. > >This is a test. --- A test this is not?" etc. > > > >I saw the Fragmenter as a step to something I call a Fugue-ifier, which you > >can imagine what it would do. > > > >> Could this subdivision be done behind the scenes? > > > >The computation of the loop points is determined by the length of the > >original loop. It takes one sample clock period to compute. I use a 44.1 > >Khz sample rate so the subdivision takes about (1 / 44100) or about > >0.0000227 seconds to setup. > > > >>How long would it take before you could access it? > > > >Nearly instantantly. > > > >> Could you subdivide and multiply all 4 subdivision elements? > > > >Do you mean fragment the fragments? Interesting idea. > > > >> Then, could you switch between those subdivided loops in real time > >> while the original loop is playing? > > > >No problem. The loops switching occurs at the end of each loop. With some > >effort it could occur immediately but I don't think that would sounds as > >good. > > > >Dennis Leas > >------------------- > >dennis@mdbs.com > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 23 16:52:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA17811; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:50:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:50:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010423164833.007e6910@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 16:48:33 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: mega-ultra cassette player - does such a thing exist? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 09:48 AM 4/23/01 -0700, Matt wrote: >Funny you should mention that. Tim _did_ show up on my doorstep this weekend >dressed as some sort of fairy. I didn't know it was him though, so I >pretended not to be home. > >Matt Well I never.... -t From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 23 17:10:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA19304; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:08:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 17:08:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001f01c0cc39$611f0940$44b31597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: References: <3AE2B4AB.DA73C350@club-internet.fr> <000901c0cb26$74fb5cc0$f6ad1597@default> <3AE2FBE4.3EAD1B7@club-internet.fr> <3AE31942.73ABD61@vtx.ch> <000b01c0cb61$c38f7980$c9b11597@default> Subject: Re: Italian Cycloops Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 23:07:14 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I added that part, in consideration of what was written there! It is obvious, even from the capital letters I used. Now, Rich, I simply don't care about it. I don't know that box so I don't know if it'good or not, neither I care for that. I f the guy,DJlatino, wrote that "review" without checking the unit...well...he is an asshole ! ! ! If the box sucks it sucks, if it doesn't IT DOESN'T....I added a SHORT and FAST sum of THAT crap on that page. You figure out if it works or not. The review didn't have only concerns about price and some limitations...it REALLY says DON'T BUY IT...IT?S A WASTE of MONEY!!!! You get this or you want me to translate that in LATIN & ANCIENT GREEK for you? If it does or not...I don't know...probably it doesn't...probably it sucks...you check it out. if U are really interested in my music...go to the profiles area of this list and get the link to my webpages...it's in English...for those of you that speak only that in year 2001. CIAO BELLA FAVA Italo ----- Original Message ----- From: "rich" To: Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 8:28 PM Subject: Re: Italian Cycloops > italoop, > > the part about it sucking...you directly translated that? > > seems to me that the review had some concerns about price and some > limitations, and the 'it sucks' part was your own personal addition. > and you haven't tried it personally... gee, that leaves your ass out > in the wind a bit, doesn't it? > > emmanual's pleasant response to you seems to indicate who's the > reasonable man here, IMO. > > your orville rules.....snore....oh, sorry, i drifted off there...what > were you saying? > > > rich > > ps. any links to your music would be greatly appreciated > > > > > >SO WHAT? I translated what I read there! It seems that it sucks!!! > >according to the guy that wrote that review... > >I don't know Cycloops, I didn't check it out at Frankfurt. This is the very > >first time I hear of that...PERIOD. > >All I can say is what I know about Repeater, since I had a demo of it!!! > >I hope that what I read and translated for Emmanuel what HE ASKED me to > >translate...that's it!!! > >If that is not true...KOOL! > >If that is TRUE well...he has to be embarassed...not me. He didn't even say > >"who" he "is".... > > > >In the mean time MY ORVILLE rules.... > > > >do your homeworX > > > >best Italoop > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 23 18:20:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA22103; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:18:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:18:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002101c0cc43$40033100$0d944e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: Italian Cycloops Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:17:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > You get this or you want me to translate that in LATIN & >ANCIENT GREEK for you? Would that be Ancient or Medieval Latin? ;-) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 23 18:26:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA22337; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:24:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:24:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <007901c0cc44$06dd9040$44b31597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: References: <002101c0cc43$40033100$0d944e0c@u73x0> Subject: Re: Italian Cycloops Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:23:28 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "Os eipon thamnon upeduseto dios odusseus" 3500 years old, from Omerus ODISSEA...good book...in greek...OLD one ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Pokorny" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:17 AM Subject: Re: Italian Cycloops > > You get this or you want me to translate that in LATIN & > >ANCIENT GREEK for you? > > Would that be Ancient or Medieval Latin? ;-) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 23 18:49:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA22686; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:40:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:40:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE4AF6B.67A375D8@club-internet.fr> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:40:44 +0200 From: Emmanuel PERILLE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Italian Cycloops + answer to DJLatino References: <004101c0cc26$7d09ed40$9283abd4@LucaFormentini> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6gP2FD.A.7hF.y8K56@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com luca wrote: > This matter has caught my curiosity, so I have mailed to the site keeper > where the review was asking him if they had tried the Cycloops or not. > His response was that he didn't make a test to Cycloops because he didn't > find one around. > His considerations were all about the fact that he had tried Cmx 5000 > (Pioneer ??) that wasn't able to catch the groove of latin-american music. > So he reached the conclusion that latin-american music is a difficult thing > to be automatically catched...... > > On his review it was really difficult to understand he didn't tried the > Cycloops; it seems he did. > > I am also disappointed he wrote it in that way. > > About Italo's way of describing the translation, he tried to express the > mood in which it has been written. > > I think the real bad story is that there is people who gives their judgement > on a public site about products they haven't seen or touched and this is > what Djlatino did. > > my 2 liras (way less than 2 cents...) > luca Thank you for your clever point of view Luca, and also thanks for your email to DJLatino I had an email from DJlatino today. He explained me he doubted about the capacity of Cycloops to "hear" some salsa tempos. I sent him back an email to him, see below ... Dealing with CMX5000 BPM limits, it sounds good to me to have chosen Redsound rather than Pioneer even if they would have accepted (which I doubt of course) Except I must admit Cycloops doesn't like very much some heavy bass lines, otherwise it works pretty fine and follows salsa tempo variations quite correctly. EP ********************* copy of my answer to DJLatino ******************** InfoDJLatino.net wrote: > First of all excuse me for my english !! No problem, thanks to Italoop on Loopers' Delight, I can read your Italian > I have answer to your question directly if you write to me. First, thanks for your email > In my review I have write that I hope that "cycloop" work with salsa music. > Take in consideration that some latin djs think that when I mix "in tempo" > salsa music woth the pc , imagine me that download music into hard disk and > say to computer "now mix on tempo and on rythm" like Merlin !!! > Sometimes I have problem to do loops with ReCycle , because salsa is a mix > of rhythm and sound and sometimes the tempo is made by the clave and its a > sound very different of drum of dance music. > > Waiting your reply. > > Ernesto > > www.djlatino.net > info@djlatino.net Ernesto, It's true Salsa is usually live music, and any live music usually makes the tempo jitter a bit. Nevertheless, I find salsa more and more accurate in BPM nowadays rather than in the pass, since musicians are used to play with machines now. Believe me, I can feel it with every cyclic sampling prototype I have built before designing Cycloops for Redsound. And Redsound has developped what they called the BPM engine V2 which follows live tempo variations. I have just tried Cycloops this afternoon for you, and the result is very surprising. Salsa loops follow "Radio Latina 99Mhz FM" songs quite good. You would be surprised. I hope you will have the opportunity one day to check it out, really. Comparing Cycloops to tiny samplers on mixers, well it's like comparing BMW with 2CV I have just tried Cycloops this morning in Paris at DMC-France, the guy says he will not be interested in Cycloops to loop for scratching. He made me the comparison with a Numark-KAOSS on which he can sample 5-sec, it seems he is right in that case : a classical start/stop sampler is fairly enough to loop a passage from a special scratching vynil (where samples are carved every 4 sec with different tempos). I agree in that case Cycloops doesn't fit. So I would rather suggest Cycloops to be exclusively focused for mix effect (teckno, house ...) And in that case it should be very appreciable !!! Seamless loop + perfect start/stop points matching + perfect BPM tracking + automatic record level Cycloops is not a studio sampler, because exclusively designed for professional DJs, not this kind of commercial term everybody seems to abused to declare every potential purchaser, but the real pro DJ, you know the ones who get paid every month, how do they called this ? I got it !!! = a job. Seriously, Cycloops have been mostly made for them. Because like any other job, every one can sometimes feel in a bad mude, sick, worried by personnal problems ... Yeah, pro DJs are like everyone : humans !!! This is why I designed Cycloops for, for this kind of people who sometimes are tired to mix the same disk, at the same place, at the same time everyday, just to let people dance on the floor, although this Pro DJ sometimes would like to play something else, but no !!! He has to play commercial records because people come to clubs to dance on the hits they listen to their favorite radio .... And in that case, Cycloops is made for them, to let them dance on this fucky damned shit !!! " Let me born a loop for them so I can have a drink meanwhile, Hey !! John, bring me a Coke please !!! Feel thursty playing record on and on, all night long." Yeah !!! Mixing can sometimes be a nightmare, even only a day per month, but at this very moment, Thanks my Godness !!! I have my Holy Cycloops !!! Cycloops might help anyway. The First direct-to-use fully automatic club sampler, this is what it has been made for. Furthermore, several loops put together makes interesting round effects, and especially with salsa !!! several times the same singers in chorus on your favorite song !!! Believe me, Ernesto, maybe you would love it !!! EP From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 23 18:53:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA22860; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:42:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:42:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE4AFCF.90B68D34@club-internet.fr> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:42:23 +0200 From: Emmanuel PERILLE X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [fr] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Italian Cycloops References: <002101c0cc43$40033100$0d944e0c@u73x0> <007901c0cc44$06dd9040$44b31597@default> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6450 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Italo De Angelis wrote: > "Os eipon thamnon upeduseto dios odusseus" > > 3500 years old, from Omerus ODISSEA...good book...in greek...OLD one > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "James Pokorny" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:17 AM > Subject: Re: Italian Cycloops > > > > You get this or you want me to translate that in LATIN & > > >ANCIENT GREEK for you? > > > > Would that be Ancient or Medieval Latin? ;-) > > Amen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 23 18:57:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA23095; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:46:15 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:46:15 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <00a101c0cc47$131d3740$44b31597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: References: <002101c0cc43$40033100$0d944e0c@u73x0> <007901c0cc44$06dd9040$44b31597@default> <3AE4AFCF.90B68D34@club-internet.fr> Subject: Re: Italian Cycloops Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 00:45:15 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com THAT's A GOOD ONE ! ! ! Hi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emmanuel PERILLE" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:42 AM Subject: Re: Italian Cycloops > Italo De Angelis wrote: > > > "Os eipon thamnon upeduseto dios odusseus" > > > > 3500 years old, from Omerus ODISSEA...good book...in greek...OLD one > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "James Pokorny" > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 12:17 AM > > Subject: Re: Italian Cycloops > > > > > > You get this or you want me to translate that in LATIN & > > > >ANCIENT GREEK for you? > > > > > > Would that be Ancient or Medieval Latin? ;-) > > > > > Amen > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 23 21:51:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA30360; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:49:55 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 21:49:55 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <001f01c0cc39$611f0940$44b31597@default> References: <3AE2B4AB.DA73C350@club-internet.fr> <000901c0cb26$74fb5cc0$f6ad1597@default> <3AE2FBE4.3EAD1B7@club-internet.fr> <3AE31942.73ABD61@vtx.ch> <000b01c0cb61$c38f7980$c9b11597@default> <001f01c0cc39$611f0940$44b31597@default> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:46:06 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: Italian Cycloops Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Italo, thanks for the directions to some of your tunes. got a chance to listen to both of them. not exactly my cup of tea, but nice production. i liked your duo piece much better than the quintet. the quitet piece doesn't go anywhere really interesting, and i didn't hear anything that seemed like "unorthodox signal processing", although 22hz mp3's don't do much for nuances. in your piece a nice ambience is set...like the drums and the fluctuating panning that happens to them. then end where the guitar starts doing those fast trem bends...or that could be some signal processing...don't know...kinda interesting. i'm definitely not the guy who's into what myself and friends would call "widdly widdly shit" all the scale pyrotechnics and chops and such...seems like you're into that stuff, i would guess...could be wrong there. and thanks for the english only insults...you seem like you're so intelligent and well read and smart enough to understand muliple languages, complex signal flows, etc. which leaves me wondering why you feel you need to lash out your sometimes overbearing opinions at this list...? oh sorry...somebody asked you to translate something about some crappy piece of gear that you say you don't care about...and then some american monolinguistic chump questioned you on your interpretation...(gasp, the horror) poor guy...slumming with the idiots. rich >I added that part, in consideration of what was written there! It is >obvious, even from the capital letters I used. >Now, Rich, I simply don't care about it. I don't know that box so I don't >know if it'good or not, neither I care for that. >I f the guy,DJlatino, wrote that "review" without checking the >unit...well...he is an asshole ! ! ! >If the box sucks it sucks, if it doesn't IT DOESN'T....I added a SHORT and >FAST sum of THAT crap on that page. >You figure out if it works or not. The review didn't have only concerns >about price and some limitations...it REALLY says DON'T BUY IT...IT?S A >WASTE of MONEY!!!! You get this or you want me to translate that in LATIN & >ANCIENT GREEK for you? If it does or not...I don't know...probably it >doesn't...probably it sucks...you check it out. >if U are really interested in my music...go to the profiles area of this >list and get the link to my webpages...it's in English...for those of you >that speak only that in year 2001. >CIAO BELLA FAVA >Italo From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 23 23:39:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA01883; Mon, 23 Apr 2001 23:37:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 23:37:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Loopbozo@aol.com Message-ID: <2f.143b407c.28164ea7@aol.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 23:36:07 EDT Subject: Re: TipJar? PayPal? Suggestions? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Perhaps the quickest way to raise funds would be to charge a small fee to reveal the always needed and oft pleaded for ability to unsubscribe from this list. admission is free....leaving....ahh...ha..ha.... b.helm From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 24 03:25:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA09204; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 03:23:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 03:23:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: AaroneousAG@aol.com Message-ID: <74.9decb31.281683a8@aol.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 03:22:16 EDT Subject: jamman power supply To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The day has come! The much coveted power supply to my jamman has bitten the dust. What am I to do? None but the dod/digitech power supplies work for it. Anyone know of a cheap source? Help!! aaroneous From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 24 05:02:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA12787; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 05:00:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 05:00:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: matthias@pop.e-net.com.br Message-Id: Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 06:03:23 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: OT: a hot street recorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6455 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I fell in love with: http://www.nomadworld.com/products/jukebox-c/features.asp - it eliminates the DAT to record shows (since it also records PCM not just MP3), which is great since we have always problems with tapes in tropical humidity. - it eliminates the the car tape/CD player - its much cheaper that DAT, tapes, CDs (that get lost in the car...) - it allows much quicker transfer of the street recordings to the computer and of the ready music to listen in the car... - there is enough space on the 6G HD to keep 50 hours of MP3 and still have space to record a 3 hour concert in PCM (.wav) - with some luck it may even serve as a real time sound to USB converter (not in the specs) - I hope its less vibration sensitive than DAT and CD players, but I am not sure since a HD can even definitively crash with a shock, right? Is there any disadvantage I am not aware of? Could someone of you please help me to send such unit to Brazil? Thank you very much -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 24 05:48:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA13249; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 05:46:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 05:46:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: a hot street recorder Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:39:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id FAA13224 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Matthias, This really is as good as it looks; I've tried one in a local store and they're great, (and they support MAC OS). All the reviews are giving it 85% +. The UK price is £339 inc tax if you are interested but they would probably be cheaper in the US. In the US they are called 'NOMAD' but in Europe 'DAP' as a French company already had the name. However, there are more of this type of device coming out all the time. I saw a portable unit with a 60GB hard drive last month; It has a docking station system so you can plug it in to your car, your HI-FI or on-stage................neat! > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthias Grob [mailto:matthias@grob.org] > Sent: 24 April 2001 10:03 > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: OT: a hot street recorder > > > I fell in love with: > > http://www.nomadworld.com/products/jukebox-c/features.asp > > - it eliminates the DAT to record shows (since it also records PCM > not just MP3), which is great since we have always problems with > tapes in tropical humidity. > - it eliminates the car tape/CD player > - its much cheaper that DAT, tapes, CDs (that get lost in the car...) > - it allows much quicker transfer of the street recordings to the > computer and of the ready music to listen in the car... > - there is enough space on the 6G HD to keep 50 hours of MP3 and > still have space to record a 3 hour concert in PCM (.wav) > - with some luck it may even serve as a real time sound to USB > converter (not in the specs) > - I hope its less vibration sensitive than DAT and CD players, but I > am not sure since a HD can even definitively crash with a shock, > right? > > Is there any disadvantage I am not aware of? > > Could someone of you please help me to send such unit to Brazil? > > Thank you very much > -- > > > ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 24 05:57:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA13390; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 05:56:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 05:56:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE54DC7.E32B89E7@cloud9.net> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 05:56:23 -0400 From: Mountain Man X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Drum sounds for looping ? References: <200104231905.PAA14884@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi folks, I got my new (used) zendrum last night. Plugged into a synth module, ran into my EDP, laid down some rhythm along with bass pedals, and then drummed along for a *long* time. Wow! :) This is going to be a great way to create new sounds for me, but it underlines something I've known to be a problem for quite a while - ho-hum drum sounds. I have several modules with drum kits - last night I was playing with my QSR and korg NS5R, but none that really excel. I'd particularly like some good ethnic kits - a varied set of tablas that I can assign to some of those 24 triggers would be nice (as well as more "traditional" kits) :) Can anyone recommend a drum module? Thanks much, Elby From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 24 06:49:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA14872; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 06:42:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 06:42:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002f01c0ccaa$b8f2cb40$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au> From: "Jeff van Dyck" To: References: <200104231905.PAA14884@hemlock.violacea.com> <3AE54DC7.E32B89E7@cloud9.net> Subject: Re: Drum sounds for looping ? Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 20:38:37 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Elby, I'd suggest a sampler as opposed to a drum module, that way you can constantly change the drum sounds you have, even create your own. As far as which sampler, anything with lots of ram and a harddrive. Hope this helps, Jeffo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mountain Man" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 7:56 PM Subject: Drum sounds for looping ? > Hi folks, > > I got my new (used) zendrum last night. Plugged into a synth module, > ran into my EDP, laid down some rhythm along with bass pedals, and then > drummed along for a *long* time. Wow! :) This is going to be a great > way to create new sounds for me, but it underlines something I've known > to be a problem for quite a while - ho-hum drum sounds. I have several > modules with drum kits - last night I was playing with my QSR and korg > NS5R, but none that really excel. I'd particularly like some good > ethnic kits - a varied set of tablas that I can assign to some of those > 24 triggers would be nice (as well as more "traditional" kits) :) Can > anyone recommend a drum module? > > Thanks much, > Elby > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 24 07:11:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA16247; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 07:06:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 07:06:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010424110605.97335.qmail@web10008.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 04:06:05 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Kyma question for Dennis Leas.... To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dennis, Are you still using just the base Kyma system to come up with all of your looping patches? Also, what would be the closest Eventide equivilent to a base Kyma system? Is it as powerful as the Orville? If not, how many expansion cards does it take to get there? I've been reading the archives so I think I'm up to speed on the relative advantages/disadvantages of Kyma vs Eventide. I guess what I'm missing is the comparative "bang for the buck" factor. I realize that comparing the two can be difficult. Just pretend that I'm holding a loaded gun to the head of a struggling capybara! Italo is welcome to chime in if he can overcome his shyness. :) John ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 24 07:54:58 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA16797; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 07:52:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 07:52:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004f01c0ccb4$e741c280$8fb71597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: References: <20010424110605.97335.qmail@web10008.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: EVENTIDE USERS GROUP ON LINE Tutorials.. Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:51:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com John, Ray Reck set up an incredible Eventide Users group on Yahoo that works in a very innovative way, better than any other I 've seen so far. We have a 20 mega files area with docs, pdf, txt, mp3s AND sif, actual programs for DSP4000/7000/Orville that any user can upload to his machine.Lots of infos on ANYTHING. Everybody can put his files there for all the group. THEN we also have a very functional CHAT section in which I give support world-wide to Eventide users. We have a weekly appointment in which people from US, Italy, Germany,Sweden and other countries get together and learn how to program audio/control/interface aspects of Eventide platforms. The great thing is that anybody can go to the Eventide webpages (www.eventide.com) and download VSIGfile, a graphical (and txt editor) for ANY machine (gtr/Dsp4000/4500/7000/75007Orville), swap machines databases and be on the chat working all together on patches, having Vsig OPEN aside the chat page. Then we e-mail each other programs, since Vsig can save them in very light files that anybody can upload to his machine. It's working AWESOME and lots of people are there...learning a lot. We have people that don't have en Eventide yet BUT are learning its programming structures and lingo, just by being there, following the on-line tutorials (with lots of questions). These "wanna try it" people have Vsig on their pcs and I send them a machine database so that it works. No other place has these features to my knowledge. The Users Group works since last November 29, in 4 months we are 153 people, including high end engineers, betatesters, programmers, studio engineers, musicians and factory guys too. Level and pro is pretty high. Lots of benefits to find out what is good for what task or not, in the Eventide area...and more!!! Lots of people from Looper's Delight are there too. KYMa users are there too. It's a very omnicomprehensive and rewarding experience that I strongly advice anybody to try. Next "ON-LINE Tutorial Session" is fixed for tomorrow, Wednesday, at midnight central Europe time, 6pm New York time, 3pm Los Angeles time. I'd really like to meet you there (if YOU're not too shy!!!)!!! these are the adresses: Post message: eventide-users@yahoogroups.com Subscribe: eventide-users-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Unsubscribe: eventide-users-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com List owner: eventide-users-owner@yahoogroups.com URL to this page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/eventide-users everybody is VERY welcome regards Italo ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Tidwell" To: "Loopers Delight" Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 1:06 PM Subject: Kyma question for Dennis Leas.... > Dennis, > > Are you still using just the base Kyma system to > come up with all of your looping patches? > > Also, what would be the closest Eventide equivilent > to a base Kyma system? Is it as powerful as the > Orville? If not, how many expansion cards does it take > to get there? > > I've been reading the archives so I think I'm up to > speed on the relative advantages/disadvantages of > Kyma vs Eventide. I guess what I'm missing is the > comparative "bang for the buck" factor. > > I realize that comparing the two can be difficult. > Just pretend that I'm holding a loaded gun to the > head of a struggling capybara! > > Italo is welcome to chime in if he can overcome his > shyness. :) > > > John > > > ===== > John Tidwell > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 24 07:56:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA16910; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 07:55:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 07:55:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006701c0ccb5$435896c0$8fb71597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: "loopers-delight" Subject: PLEASE STOP DJLATINO! Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:54:03 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Guys, this "genius" is asking sorry to anybody for his review, DONE WITHOUT HAVING THE UNIT! ! ! Please, anybody able to stop the CRAP??? Italo From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 24 09:43:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA20681; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:41:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:41:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:40:40 -0400 Subject: Re: A hot street recorder From: Steve Sandberg To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="MS_Mac_OE_3070950040_2150899_MIME_Part" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3070950040_2150899_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit However, there are more of this type of device coming out all the time. I saw a portable unit with a 60GB hard drive last month; It has a docking station system so you can plug it in to your car, your HI-FI or on-stage................neat! ----What is this portable 60GB unit? --MS_Mac_OE_3070950040_2150899_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: A hot street recorder However, there are more of this type of device coming= out all the time. I
saw a portable unit with a 60GB hard drive last month; It has a docking
station system so you can plug it in to your car, your HI-FI or
on-stage................neat!

----What is this portable 60GB unit? --MS_Mac_OE_3070950040_2150899_MIME_Part-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 24 10:13:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA22357; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 10:12:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 10:12:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Andy Ewen To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: A hot street recorder Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:05:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0CCC7.8E30E0A0" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0CCC7.8E30E0A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I can't remember where I saw the 60GB unit but I will post it when my brain catches up. Meanwhile, here's a 20GB unit to be going on with. Check out:- http://www.funmp3players.com/store/products.asp?id=1 &cat=MP3%20Hardware There's some Neo35 40GB MP3 players there. Andy. -----Original Message----- From: Steve Sandberg [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net] Sent: 24 April 2001 14:41 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: A hot street recorder However, there are more of this type of device coming out all the time. I saw a portable unit with a 60GB hard drive last month; It has a docking station system so you can plug it in to your car, your HI-FI or on-stage................neat! ----What is this portable 60GB unit? ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0CCC7.8E30E0A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: A hot street recorder
 
I = can't remember=20 where I saw the 60GB unit but I will post it when my brain catches up.=20 Meanwhile, here's a 20GB unit to be going on with. Check out:-
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Sandberg=20 [mailto:stevesandberg@earthlink.net]
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To: = Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re:=20 A hot street recorder

However, there=20 are more of this type of device coming out all the time. I
saw a = portable=20 unit with a 60GB hard drive last month; It has a docking
station = system so=20 you can plug it in to your car, your HI-FI = or
on-stage................neat!=20

----What is this portable 60GB unit? = ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0CCC7.8E30E0A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 24 10:49:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23020; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 10:46:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 10:46:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 09:15:02 -0500 From: jim palmer Subject: Re: TipJar? PayPal? Suggestions? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <016501c0ccc8$f41de7e0$080210ac@jpalmer> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 References: <2f.143b407c.28164ea7@aol.com> X-Priority: 3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com you can check out anytime you like, but you can never leave... ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 10:36 PM Subject: Re: TipJar? PayPal? Suggestions? > Perhaps the quickest way to raise funds would be to charge a small fee to > reveal the > always needed and oft pleaded for ability to unsubscribe from this list. > > admission is free....leaving....ahh...ha..ha.... > > b.helm > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 24 11:00:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA23297; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 10:58:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 10:58:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000801c0ccce$de703a00$2a1697d4@elias> From: "Elias Faingersh" To: Subject: SV: jamman power supply Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:57:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id KAA23271 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey, I have one and I don't need it... if you are interested mail... Elias -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Från: AaroneousAG@aol.com Till: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Datum: den 24 april 2001 09:24 Ämne: jamman power supply The day has come! The much coveted power supply to my jamman has bitten the dust. What am I to do? None but the dod/digitech power supplies work for it. Anyone know of a cheap source? Help!! aaroneous From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 24 11:47:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA25146; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:41:13 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:41:13 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <027001c0ccd4$cc0beac0$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <20010424110605.97335.qmail@web10008.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Kyma question for Dennis Leas.... Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 10:39:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi John, > Are you still using just the base Kyma system to > come up with all of your looping patches? Most of them are a combination of standard Kyma algorithms and algorithms from my Looper Construction Kit. I'm using a standard (unexpanded) Capybara 320 with 4 DSPs. It doesn't take a lot of the DSP horsepower to do stuff. For example, running two of my Fragmenters consumes 1/2 of one DSP. FYI, here's one line descriptions of my LCK prototype Sounds (aka algorithms). The descriptions are very terse and intended for people who speak Kyma as a second language but you (and fellow LD members) might find them interesting. This list will be changing but it's fairly current. -------------------------------------------- BiFuncKey - Decodes a MIDI key press to provide two control functions from a single key ClearWavetable - Quickly clear a wavetable in Capybara RAM DupSamples - Duplicate part of a wavetable into another part of the same wavetable when triggered EDPButton - Sends MIDI commands to an Echoplex Digital Pro to simulate pressing front panel buttons. Permits the Capybara to control the Echoplex. EventStateMachine - Implements a finite state machine driven by Event Values GetLoopPoints - Reads the loop starting and ending points (LoopStart and LoopEnd) from a looping wavetable MasterLooper - This looper records and loops the Input signal and generates an end-of-loop Event OverdubLoop - When triggered, playbacks an existing looping wavetable, optionally adds a new signal to the wavetable, and signals the end of the loop PlayLoop - Plays a looping wavetable when triggered and signals the end of the playback RecordLoop - Records Input into a looping wavetable while Gate is true RecordSyncLoop - Records a looping wavetable while gate is true; with synchronization features SelfLoop - Plays a looping wavetable when triggered and signals the end of the playback; with self-looping and synchronization features SetLoopPoints - Sets the loop starting and ending points in a looping wavetable SimpleLooper - This looper records and loops the Input signal SlaveLooper - This looper records and loops the Input signal in sync with the SlaveSync SyncGateEvent - Quantizes the Gate's changes to the Sync signal SyncTriggerEvent - Quantizes the Trigger's leading edge to the Sync signal SyncTriggerSound - Quantizes the Trigger's leading edge to the Sync signal ZeroCrossingAdjust - Adjust LoopStart and LoopEnd points in a looping wavetable for looping at a zero-crossing point ZeroCrossingGate - Synchronizes Gate with zero-crossing point of Input > Also, what would be the closest Eventide equivilent > to a base Kyma system? Is it as powerful as the > Orville? If not, how many expansion cards does it take > to get there? It's hard to compare. The Orville is definitely the closest Eventide box. In terms of horsepower, I'd say a basic Kyma system is more powerful since you have more clock cycles and DSPs available. The biggest difference is that a Kyma system requires a host computer (Windows or Mac) attached at all times. For some customers this is a disadvantage. One the other hand, Kyma always has a keyboard, screen, and hard drive to use. Although I've never used an Orville, I believe it's probably easier to use than a Kyma system and certainly easier to learn.. But that also means it's considerably less flexible. Here's another way to compare the two. Say that I have both units. Given a function that both perform identically (say EQ), I'd probably choose an Orville. I could probably set it up quicker. But the Kyma does a lot of things that the Orville does not. If I had to choose one unit, I wanted maximum flexibility, and I could wait one to three months learning how to use it, then I'd choose a Kyma system hands down. When I was trying to decide whether to buy a Kyma system, I ordered the manual from Symbolic Sound. It's quite a comprehensive manual (Kyma-ites call it the "phone book") and helped me to decide. Recommended! BTW, the May 2001 issue of Electronic Musician has a review of Kyma. You might find it good reading. > I realize that comparing the two can be difficult. > Just pretend that I'm holding a loaded gun to the > head of a struggling capybara! Careful! Those things bite! :) Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 24 12:48:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA27414; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:43:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 12:43:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005801c0ccdd$53646120$66effea9@oemcomputer> From: "become_1" To: References: Subject: Re: A hot street recorder Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:42:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01C0CCB3.9B9ACE40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Apr 2001 16:41:17.0543 (UTC) FILETIME=[624D0F70:01C0CCDD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C0CCB3.9B9ACE40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: A hot street recorderThese things seem great--but is mp3 really = equivalent to CD sound quality? ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C0CCB3.9B9ACE40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: A hot street recorder
These things seem great--but is mp3 = really=20 equivalent to CD sound quality?
------=_NextPart_000_003B_01C0CCB3.9B9ACE40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 24 13:10:26 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA29122; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:07:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:07:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [131.107.3.75] Reply-To: "Greg S" From: "Greg S" To: References: <005801c0ccdd$53646120$66effea9@oemcomputer> Subject: Re: A hot street recorder Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 10:05:53 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00FB_01C0CCA6.258EB200" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Apr 2001 17:06:05.0473 (UTC) FILETIME=[D92D2910:01C0CCE0] Resent-Message-ID: <8XULw.A.qFH.dKb56@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00FB_01C0CCA6.258EB200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: A hot street recorder>These things seem great--but is mp3 really = equivalent to CD sound quality? Yes -- or better (or worse) based on sampling rate and quality of input = (i.e. audio source, gear, audio-digital conversion etc.) One quick note regarding the recording of live music: I haven't seen = anything that records directly into MP3 format. This site lists an = upcoming product that will do that however: http://www.archos.com/products/product_550002.html The other item I saw records, but only in .wav format so you won't get = any compression. Depending on what sampling rate it records at, 6GB = will get eaten up pretty fast. Someone else can do the exact math, but = I bet it's along the lines of 40 - 50 MB for a CD quality, stereo = recording of 3 - 4 minutes. I'll keep my MiniDisc for now (convenience/price/performance ratio), but = could see myself going to an MP3 recorder eventually. ------=_NextPart_000_00FB_01C0CCA6.258EB200 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Re: A hot street recorder
>These things seem great--but is mp3 = really=20 equivalent to CD sound quality?
 
Yes -- or better (or worse) based on sampling rate and quality of = input=20 (i.e. audio source, gear, audio-digital conversion etc.)
 
One quick note regarding = the recording of live=20 music: I haven't seen anything that records directly into MP3 = format.  This=20 site lists an upcoming product that will do that however:
http://www.ar= chos.com/products/product_550002.html
 
The other item I saw records, but only = in .wav=20 format so you won't get any compression.  Depending on what = sampling rate=20 it records at, 6GB will get eaten up pretty fast.  Someone else can = do the=20 exact math, but I bet it's along the lines of 40 - 50 MB for a CD = quality,=20 stereo recording of 3 - 4 minutes.
 
I'll keep my MiniDisc for now=20 (convenience/price/performance ratio), but could see myself going to an = MP3=20 recorder eventually.
------=_NextPart_000_00FB_01C0CCA6.258EB200-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 24 13:39:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA29670; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:33:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:33:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: "Neil Goldstein" To: Subject: RE: a hot street recorder Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 10:30:18 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com http://www.kuren.org/jukebox/index.shtml guy's taken the Nomad apart. interesting site. > -----Original Message----- > From: Matthias Grob [mailto:matthias@grob.org] > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 2:03 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: OT: a hot street recorder > > > I fell in love with: > > http://www.nomadworld.com/products/jukebox-c/features.asp > > - it eliminates the DAT to record shows (since it also records PCM > not just MP3), which is great since we have always problems with > tapes in tropical humidity. > - it eliminates the the car tape/CD player > - its much cheaper that DAT, tapes, CDs (that get lost in the car...) > - it allows much quicker transfer of the street recordings to the > computer and of the ready music to listen in the car... > - there is enough space on the 6G HD to keep 50 hours of MP3 and > still have space to record a 3 hour concert in PCM (.wav) > - with some luck it may even serve as a real time sound to USB > converter (not in the specs) > - I hope its less vibration sensitive than DAT and CD players, but I > am not sure since a HD can even definitively crash with a shock, > right? > > Is there any disadvantage I am not aware of? > > Could someone of you please help me to send such unit to Brazil? > > Thank you very much > -- > > > ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 24 13:55:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA30071; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:53:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 13:53:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: tom@swirly.com Message-Id: <200104241750.NAA02822@www.editeverything.com> To: Subject: Re: A hot street recorder Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 17:50:48 GMT X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan Standard Edition v3.0.33 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Re: A hot street recorder>These things seem great--but is mp3 really > equivalent to CD sound quality? > > Yes -- or better (or worse) based on sampling rate and quality of input > (i.e. audio source, gear, audio-digital conversion etc.) What?! While adaptive CODECs like MP3 and its cousin ATRAC (used in MDs and the late unlamented CD-I) are very impressive for the fidelity of their reproduction, I have yet to hear an MP3 that's equal in quality to uncompressed CD sound quality. A classic gotcha. You record a concert on MD and one of the instruments is too low. But when you try to use EQ to bring the instrument out, all sorts of nasties occur (usually, the instrument is "muddy" because the perceptual encoding has taken away all its bandwidth). "Rooms" and tails of natural reverbs also take a nasty hit with these compression methods, particularly if there is a loud sound while the tail of a previous sound is still echoing. Now, if you started with a much better quality of uncompressed recording, say 24-bit/96K, and didn't compress too much, then it's perfectly conceivable that you would get something as good, perhaps even better. But I have yet to hear this and I've listened to a LOT of compressed audio (and I'm not THAT picky...) If you start with 16/44 audio, it's absolutely impossible for the compressed sound to be better than the original and mathematically it's impossible for it to be the same (though for a lot of applications it's impossible for me to tell the difference at a low compression ratio, which makes it "the same" as far as I'm concerned...) Back to lurking now. /t --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 24 16:50:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA04312; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:46:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 16:46:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: matthias@pop.e-net.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 17:49:22 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: RE: a hot street recorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Matthias, >This really is as good as it looks; I've tried one in a local store and >they're great, (and they support MAC OS). All the reviews are giving it 85% >+. The UK price is £339 inc tax thats amazing: on their site, they offer it for US$ 270 which is probably less than I can get for my old portable DAT! > > http://www.nomadworld.com/products/jukebox-c/features.asp > > I hope there is no problem like automatic input gain control or so... -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 24 18:22:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA08359; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:20:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:20:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010424221855.93633.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:18:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Bret Subject: RE: a hot street recorder To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --- Matthias Grob wrote: > I hope there is no problem like automatic input gain control or so... Here is a drawback as noted on http://www.kuren.org/jukebox/opinion.html --- "No metering for the Recording mode (at least a clip indicator should be there)" ---- Guess you would have to build your own meters into a microphone preamp to be used with the nomad, and calibrate them to correlate to clipping levels. Else, live recording will be crapshoot. bret __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 24 19:06:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA09175; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:58:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 18:58:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010424225738.19903.qmail@web13303.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:57:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Subject: RE: a hot street recorder To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20010424221855.93633.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <3NE6hD.A.zOC.kTg56@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I was lusting after the nomad jukebox for live recording, but have not jumped in to buy yet. Good points are that it records .wavs, not in a compressed format, does not have 'auto-level' record mode but lets you adjust the recording level as you record (unlike sony minidisks), can be upgraded (unofficially) to 20GB - at ~10 MB/minute, that's a lot of time!. Problems are a potentially noisy line-in (can anyone comfirm this? - see bottom of http://www.kuren.org/jukebox/linein.html), slow (multi-minute) boot time, short battery life, and the lack of metering as noted below. There are lots of complaints about various things on discussion sites such as http://www.creativejukebox.com/jukebox/user/bboard/ and http://www.creative.com/services/news-server/ CreativeLabs came so close on this one but miss the mark IMHO...the firmware is user-upgradable - time may tell. I don't know of any other portable hard disk recorder like this. stephen --- Bret wrote: > --- Matthias Grob wrote: > > I hope there is no problem like automatic input > gain control or so... > Here is a drawback as noted on > http://www.kuren.org/jukebox/opinion.html > --- > "No metering for the Recording mode (at least a clip > indicator should > be there)" > ---- > Guess you would have to build your own meters into a > microphone preamp > to be used with the nomad, and calibrate them to > correlate to clipping > levels. Else, live recording will be crapshoot. > bret ===== Stephen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Apr 24 22:48:12 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA18272; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 22:45:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 22:45:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <006601c0cd33$76b9fb20$6501a8c0@bIz> From: "Jon" To: References: <200104241750.NAA02822@www.editeverything.com> Subject: OT For sale: A hot street recorder Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 19:57:27 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I have a Sony TCD-8 with a custom set of binaural microphones, power supply and a ton of blank, never used tapes for sale for $375, obo. Less than 20 hours of use. (More like 10). It's in pristine condition. The binaural microphone pair captures the sound as it enters the ear, so you get the >perfect< stereo spread. It's good for regular applications too. Let me know if you're interested (off list of course), Jonathan El-Bizri ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2001 10:50 AM Subject: Re: A hot street recorder > > Re: A hot street recorder>These things seem great--but is mp3 really > > equivalent to CD sound quality? > > > > Yes -- or better (or worse) based on sampling rate and quality of input > > (i.e. audio source, gear, audio-digital conversion etc.) > > What?! While adaptive CODECs like MP3 and its cousin ATRAC > (used in MDs and the late unlamented CD-I) are very impressive > for the fidelity of their reproduction, I have yet to hear an > MP3 that's equal in quality to uncompressed CD sound quality. > > A classic gotcha. You record a concert on MD and one of > the instruments is too low. But when you try to use > EQ to bring the instrument out, all sorts of nasties > occur (usually, the instrument is "muddy" because the > perceptual encoding has taken away all its bandwidth). > > "Rooms" and tails of natural reverbs also take a nasty > hit with these compression methods, particularly if > there is a loud sound while the tail of a previous > sound is still echoing. > > > Now, if you started with a much better quality of uncompressed > recording, say 24-bit/96K, and didn't compress too much, > then it's perfectly conceivable that you would get something > as good, perhaps even better. But I have yet to hear this > and I've listened to a LOT of compressed audio (and I'm not > THAT picky...) > > If you start with 16/44 audio, it's absolutely impossible > for the compressed sound to be better than the original > and mathematically it's impossible for it to be the same > (though for a lot of applications it's impossible for me > to tell the difference at a low compression ratio, which > makes it "the same" as far as I'm concerned...) > > Back to lurking now. > > /t > > --------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using Endymion MailMan. > http://www.endymion.com/products/mailman/ > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 00:10:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA21599; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 00:08:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 00:08:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.195.54.82] From: "matt davignon" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: correction Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:06:39 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Apr 2001 04:06:39.0677 (UTC) FILETIME=[2100BED0:01C0CD3D] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com About a week ago, I posted an email that this site that seemed to erroneously suggest that Tim Nelson showed up at my house dressed as a fairy. I would like to take a moment to point out that if anybody misunderstood my message to suggest such a silly thing, then it was an incorrect interpretation of the words that I evidently did not choose wisely. To clear up any possible confusion, Tim Nelson absolutely DID NOT show up at my house dressed as a fairy. In fact, at the moment discussed in my email, Tim was most likely at home doing something extremely masculine, like fixing a car or boxing or something. Apologies, Matt Davignon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 00:47:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA22244; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 00:45:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 00:45:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010425044409.84184.qmail@web10005.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:44:09 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: correction To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Is a wand being held to your head? John --- matt davignon wrote: > About a week ago, I posted an email that this site > that seemed to > erroneously suggest that Tim Nelson showed up at my > house dressed as a > fairy. I would like to take a moment to point out > that if anybody > misunderstood my message to suggest such a silly > thing, then it was an > incorrect interpretation of the words that I > evidently did not choose > wisely. > > To clear up any possible confusion, Tim Nelson > absolutely DID NOT show up at > my house dressed as a fairy. In fact, at the moment > discussed in my email, > Tim was most likely at home doing something > extremely masculine, like fixing > a car or boxing or something. > > Apologies, > > Matt Davignon > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 01:33:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA24416; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 01:31:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 01:31:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE689E1.21103DD9@home.com> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 01:25:05 -0700 From: Will Brake Organization: Soul Fruit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-AtHome0407 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: correction References: <20010425044409.84184.qmail@web10005.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------0D4775AE310040AB29E6F984" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0D4775AE310040AB29E6F984 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I heard fairies wear boots, is there any truth to that? Maybe the boots have something to do with looping. Will John Tidwell wrote: > > Is a wand being held to your head? > > John > > --- matt davignon wrote: > > About a week ago, I posted an email that this site > > that seemed to > > erroneously suggest that Tim Nelson showed up at my > > house dressed as a > > fairy. I would like to take a moment to point out > > that if anybody > > misunderstood my message to suggest such a silly > > thing, then it was an > > incorrect interpretation of the words that I > > evidently did not choose > > wisely. > > > > To clear up any possible confusion, Tim Nelson > > absolutely DID NOT show up at > > my house dressed as a fairy. In fact, at the moment > > discussed in my email, > > Tim was most likely at home doing something > > extremely masculine, like fixing > > a car or boxing or something. > > > > Apologies, > > > > Matt Davignon > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > http://explorer.msn.com > > > > ===== > John Tidwell > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ --------------0D4775AE310040AB29E6F984 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="wbrake.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Will Brake Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="wbrake.vcf" begin:vcard n:Brake;Will tel;cell:248-763-1103 x-mozilla-html:TRUE url:http://www.soul-fruit.com org:Soul Fruit adr:;;2900 Rochester Road;Royal Oak;Michigan;48073;USA version:2.1 email;internet:wbrake@home.com title:http://www.soul-fruit.com fn:Will Brake end:vcard --------------0D4775AE310040AB29E6F984-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 04:48:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA29584; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 04:46:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 04:46:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010425084546.7993.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 01:45:46 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Thank you Dennis Leas... To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'll follow your advice & order the Kyma manual. I've been lurking on the Eventide users site for the past several months trying to pick up info on the Eventide Eclipse. Unfortunately, lurking there means reading Italo's posts on what he doing to Orville! I would love to have an Orville. I simply can't afford one. All of this got me thinking about Kyma again. It's a classic case of gear-slut rationalization. I slowly work myself up to possibly spend $2k on an Eclipse (but I really want the Orville!) & then realize that for ONLY $1k more I could have Kyma! AAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!! Thank you, I feel better now. John ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 07:18:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA01475; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 07:07:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 07:07:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <836AEDC9D836D211B4720001FA7EC2D202A79440@ntemail1-tr.ius.indiana.edu> From: "LEE, THANIEL I" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, "'mcess@prodigy.net'" , "'klaw@konstant.com'" Subject: freeware nation Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 06:55:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hey, its me thaniel, im trying to make a joke electro-techno band im going to call it freeware nation, any have any sugestions on some nifty/cheesey techno freeware. - your pal thaniel the wonder gimp i already have a TRACKER A MIDI FRACTAL MUSIC GENERATOR AND A CD BURNER From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 08:20:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA03403; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 08:18:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 08:18:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010425081728.007e8210@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 08:17:28 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: correction In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 09:06 PM 4/24/01 -0700, Matt "Kitten" Davignon wrote: >Tim was most likely at home doing something extremely masculine, like fixing >a car or boxing or something. Actually, I WAS changing the oil in my van. I'll admit that I was wearing the wings from the ganja fairy suit to break them in, but they got really dirty, so a trip to California was out of the question. Can we get back to looping now? My new (used) long-scale lap steel has integrated into my looping rig very nicely... Made itself right 't home, it did. Tim ps: lap steel loopers may want to check these sites out: From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 08:54:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA04045; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 08:53:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 08:53:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE6C8AD.A710428E@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 08:53:03 -0400 From: steve Reply-To: studio_t@bellsouth.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT - gear question References: <20010425044409.84184.qmail@web10005.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <_Fts-.A.0-.0hs56@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com if any of ya'll are familiar w/ hafler's MP100T guitar preamp drop me a line please, I need help From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 08:56:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA04086; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 08:54:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 08:54:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000d01c0cd86$afb28d40$adaf1597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: References: <20010425084546.7993.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Thank you Dennis Leas... Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:53:08 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com John, problem is Always the same!!! Only a few people really want to work hard at things, in ANY field. On the Eventide users group there have been many things going on, like offering presets to the whole community (more than 300 are already available for FREE to everybody), talk about "how to..s" and more. Now what can you say if people DO NOT contribute with their works or their questions and answers? I tell you why...most of them didn't do their hard work like others did. Still me and a few others are there helping out users to learn to program their units, solve their problems. You should see how many mails every day I get from all over the world from people asking to fix this or that or how to make up this function or else, because their are VERY close to an important work, like a mix down or mastering of cds, movies and more. Many even call or write TO BUY my libraries or to have custom designed ones, from very simple programs up to the more strange or hard to program. Still...only a few do their hard work and only a few in that very small group are willing to "share" with the whole group. Eventide tells users to call me for help...and I don't get paid by them. You lost free counseling. In your long lurking time You NEVER asked anything - Never contributed W/questions or answers - never got in a chat to SEE what is going on almost every night - vever downloade Vsig editor and asked for a databas to load into it and see how does it feel to program an Eventide without even having to buy it!!! all together we people doing this ir real time on the chat!!!-you never did anything...and you're here to pretend what??????????...or complining about my "too frequent" presence on that list? Should say thanx ! ! ! At least the group is growing, more and more are TAKING active part in all the new things going on. It's not my fault if "famous" people(...please no names, just check them in the members list and if you have enough experience in the field You're going to recognize lots of "who") don't contribute actively; there are many reasons why this may happen: 1)They don't really have the time 2)They have an attitude like "I only sell my programs" 3)They are not able to do it yet 4)They are assholes willing others doing all for them and that's it or think "community is kids stuff" 5)don't care at all you might think of other reasons for it. I'm sure of one thing, since the list is on, Eventide has sold many dozens of their units; used gear worldwide market has seen lots of people buying used Eventides, lots of people write to Eventide , being enthusiast for the knowledge and service they get out of the group, like I'm sure it happens on Looper's Delight too, with a different but similar products range and quality. I'm sorry if you didn't get useful infos for you,...I'm not sorry if you're not getting an Eventide!!!. I love KYMAS as much as I love my 2 Orvilles, Dsp4000, H3000D/SX, Lexicon Pcm80 and Jamman...and hopefully Repeater if this painful LOOONG comedy about it will ever end ;-)) I'd really like to couple Kyma to my set-up but you can't have EveryThing in your life. I simply think Kyma is on top of many applications in the market...very creative, VERY POWERFUL and I don't have stupid "but" on or against it...Kyma is GREAT ! ! ! Problem is only You're complaining about a big knowledge free to anybody that ONLY *YOU* didn't get!!! Neither you did anything to get it...sorry for you...this attitude will be a bigger problem on a mighty platform like KYMA. ...and BTW, Orville,DSP7000//7500 manuals are FREELY downloadable from Eventide website...don't need to request them or pay for...again, it was up to YOU to get them. I hope you did ...but you never asked about anything...we didn't notice your existence, needs and curiosities. Best wishes Italo ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Tidwell" To: "Loopers Delight" Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 10:45 AM Subject: Thank you Dennis Leas... > I'll follow your advice & order the Kyma manual. > > I've been lurking on the Eventide users site for the > past several months trying to pick up info on the > Eventide Eclipse. Unfortunately, lurking there means > reading Italo's posts on what he doing to Orville! > I would love to have an Orville. I simply can't afford > one. All of this got me thinking about Kyma again. > > It's a classic case of gear-slut rationalization. > I slowly work myself up to possibly spend $2k on an > Eclipse (but I really want the Orville!) & then > realize that for ONLY $1k more I could have Kyma! > > AAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!! > > Thank you, I feel better now. > > John > > > > ===== > John Tidwell > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 10:12:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA07137; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:05:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:05:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002301c0cd8f$292127b0$0300a8c0@mlameyer02> From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: References: <836AEDC9D836D211B4720001FA7EC2D202A79440@ntemail1-tr.ius.indiana.edu> Subject: Re: freeware nation Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 09:53:51 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: <9HG1aD.A.RuB._ht56@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Taureg Free, www.brambos.com, you won't live without it. It's both nifty and cheesy (because it doesn't edit on zero crossings). God it's fun though. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "LEE, THANIEL I" To: ; ; Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 6:55 AM Subject: freeware nation > hey, its me thaniel, im trying to make a joke electro-techno band im going > to call it freeware nation, any have any sugestions on some nifty/cheesey > techno freeware. - your pal thaniel the wonder gimp > i already have a > TRACKER > A MIDI FRACTAL MUSIC GENERATOR > AND A CD BURNER > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 12:40:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA11901; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 12:32:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 12:32:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.4.1 Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 09:28:49 -0700 From: "Mike Biffle" To: , Subject: Re: correction Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id MAA11840 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com A masculine one... -m >>> wedgehed@yahoo.com 04/24/01 09:44PM >>> Is a wand being held to your head? John --- matt davignon wrote: > About a week ago, I posted an email that this site > that seemed to > erroneously suggest that Tim Nelson showed up at my > house dressed as a > fairy. I would like to take a moment to point out > that if anybody > misunderstood my message to suggest such a silly > thing, then it was an > incorrect interpretation of the words that I > evidently did not choose > wisely. > > To clear up any possible confusion, Tim Nelson > absolutely DID NOT show up at > my house dressed as a fairy. In fact, at the moment > discussed in my email, > Tim was most likely at home doing something > extremely masculine, like fixing > a car or boxing or something. > > Apologies, > > Matt Davignon > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com > ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 13:05:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA13689; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 13:02:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 13:02:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [207.217.34.34] From: "Professor Vast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: new member Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:01:09 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Apr 2001 17:01:10.0171 (UTC) FILETIME=[539366B0:01C0CDA9] Resent-Message-ID: <38Z56.A.kVD.1Lw56@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com just joined list today so i thought i'd say hi. i've had rebirth, just got an old version of recycle and a new version of Acid and am gonna start taking my electronic stuff to the next level with using these music apps. i do mostly acid and tech dnb stuff. i'm a guitarist so it plays a part in the music. any los angeles members out there? dino _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 14:06:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA15965; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:04:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:04:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [205.155.22.248] From: "David Potter" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: correction Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:02:45 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Apr 2001 18:02:46.0160 (UTC) FILETIME=[EE8E9100:01C0CDB1] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

I think it's perfectly fine that Tim Nelson showed up at your house dressed as a fairy.  How liberated of him.  It's about time all fairys came out of the closet and be heard......Right on Tim Nelson!!!!!  Be Free

                                                  Free the Fairys.............................................

>From: "matt davignon"
>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
>Subject: correction
>Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:06:39 -0700
>
>About a week ago, I posted an email that this site that seemed to
>erroneously suggest that Tim Nelson showed up at my house dressed as
>a
>fairy. I would like to take a moment to point out that if anybody
>misunderstood my message to suggest such a silly thing, then it was
>an
>incorrect interpretation of the words that I evidently did not
>choose
>wisely.
>
>To clear up any possible confusion, Tim Nelson absolutely DID NOT
>show up at
>my house dressed as a fairy. In fact, at the moment discussed in my
>email,
>Tim was most likely at home doing something extremely masculine,
>like fixing
>a car or boxing or something.
>
>Apologies,
>
>Matt Davignon
>_________________________________________________________________
>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 14:37:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA16482; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:33:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:33:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010425112554.022341c8@mail.mindspring.com> X-Files: The truth is out there. Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:30:51 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Sean Subject: Re: Thank you Dennis Leas... In-Reply-To: <000d01c0cd86$afb28d40$adaf1597@default> References: <20010425084546.7993.qmail@web10007.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com What the hell are you going on about?!? and why? John didn't seem to indicate that he was considering getting an Orville. He flat out said that he can't afford it. Your ranting and rambling about lurking and participation in the 'Eventide community' isn't going to change that. At 02:53 PM 4/25/2001 +0200, Italo wrote: >blah, blah, blah... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 14:58:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA16963; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:51:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:51:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [207.217.34.34] From: "Professor Vast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Recycle Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:50:39 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Apr 2001 18:50:39.0503 (UTC) FILETIME=[9F33E9F0:01C0CDB8] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com anyone know where i could get a pdf manual for Recycle 1.6? thanks...db _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 15:02:31 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA17061; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:56:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:56:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7783A141C794D4118AAA00306E00B0B1E8FEC3@msgatl06.iss.net> From: "Filacchione, Alex (ISSAtlanta)" To: "'Phil Teague'" , "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: RE: Digitec IPS 33B Urgently Required Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:50:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: <0JQuEB.A.VKE.q2x56@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com First off, make sure you get a 33B and not a 33, but you rpobably already know that! I would check out some search engines on IPS33 (minus the "B" just in case). I have done this search many times. MOST of what you will find is recording studios' list of onboard gear, but you may also find stores with used units for sale. Sure, they are in the USA, but if you can find one for cheap, the shipping, etc. will be worth it. BTW, does anyone know of a good IPS33B webpage? Perhaps with some settings listed, or other info/discussions? I have never been able to find one. Alex F/Brain21 <--------========b21========--------> Brain21 - www.brain21.net www.mp3.com/Brain21 Buy individual songs @ http://www.nrmmusic.com/customcds.htm <--------========b21========--------> =>-----Original Message----- =>From: Phil Teague [mailto:Phil.Teague@2020Log.com] =>Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 9:26 AM =>To: 'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com' =>Subject: Digitec IPS 33B Urgently Required => => =>> I had my Digitec IPS-33B smashed up in a road accident and =>am struggling =>> to get a replacement. =>> =>Can anyone help me to locate a replacement as there doesn't =>seem to be any =>available in the UK ? => =>> Help! =>> =>phil.teague@2020log.com => From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 15:03:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA17175; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:58:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:58:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7783A141C794D4118AAA00306E00B0B1E8FEC4@msgatl06.iss.net> From: "Filacchione, Alex (ISSAtlanta)" To: "'Anthony.Hancock@ing.com.au'" , loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Digitech ISP33B Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:53:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I am pretty sure that it is a hard bypass. BTW, the "Bypass" simply bypasses teh effects, and not the actual unit. IOW, it is NOT a TRUE bypass, and the thing, even in bypass mode, drastically colors your tone!!! (for better or worse, depending on your taste!). I have mine set up w/ a Rolls Patchworx bypass, controlled via MIDI, but have not fully programmed either device to the point where I want to add it into my rig full time. Alex F/Brain21 <--------========b21========--------> Brain21 - www.brain21.net www.mp3.com/Brain21 Buy individual songs @ http://www.nrmmusic.com/customcds.htm <--------========b21========--------> =>-----Original Message----- =>From: Anthony.Hancock@ing.com.au [mailto:Anthony.Hancock@ing.com.au] =>Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 11:33 PM =>To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com =>Subject: Digitech ISP33B => => =>I recently got a Digitech ISP33B with no manual and no =>footswitch. I understand =>the FS300 was the footswitch originally shipped with the ISP. => =>However, can anyone give me an alternate footswitch to use =>other than going a =>midi pedal board? => =>All I want is to be able to bypass the effect. At the moment =>I have I stuck in =>a Boss LS2 Line Selector. => =>Also do the delays/ reverberations etc tail off when the unit =>is bypassed or is =>it a hard bypass - cuts off the effect totally => =>Hope to hear back. => =>Anthony => =>NOTICE =>The information contained in this electronic mail message is =>privileged and =>confidential, and is intended only for use of the addressee. =>If you are not the =>intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any =>disclosure, reproduction, =>distribution or other use of this communication is strictly =>prohibited. If you =>have received this communication in error, please notify the =>sender by reply =>transmission and delete the message without copying or disclosing it. => From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 15:08:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA18245; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:59:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:59:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <7783A141C794D4118AAA00306E00B0B1E8FEC5@msgatl06.iss.net> From: "Filacchione, Alex (ISSAtlanta)" To: "'Anthony.Hancock@ing.com.au'" , loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Digitech ISP33B Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 14:54:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Duh! Forgot part of this post.... I believe that you HAVE to have the FS300. A note, you must use a STEREO patch cable with it (the foot switch). Alex F/Brain21 <--------========b21========--------> Brain21 - www.brain21.net www.mp3.com/Brain21 Buy individual songs @ http://www.nrmmusic.com/customcds.htm <--------========b21========--------> =>-----Original Message----- =>From: Anthony.Hancock@ing.com.au [mailto:Anthony.Hancock@ing.com.au] =>Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 11:33 PM =>To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com =>Subject: Digitech ISP33B => => =>I recently got a Digitech ISP33B with no manual and no =>footswitch. I understand =>the FS300 was the footswitch originally shipped with the ISP. => =>However, can anyone give me an alternate footswitch to use =>other than going a =>midi pedal board? => =>All I want is to be able to bypass the effect. At the moment =>I have I stuck in =>a Boss LS2 Line Selector. => =>Also do the delays/ reverberations etc tail off when the unit =>is bypassed or is =>it a hard bypass - cuts off the effect totally => =>Hope to hear back. => =>Anthony => =>NOTICE =>The information contained in this electronic mail message is =>privileged and =>confidential, and is intended only for use of the addressee. =>If you are not the =>intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any =>disclosure, reproduction, =>distribution or other use of this communication is strictly =>prohibited. If you =>have received this communication in error, please notify the =>sender by reply =>transmission and delete the message without copying or disclosing it. => From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 17:01:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA22139; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 16:58:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 16:58:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE739F7.42B7EBEA@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 16:56:23 -0400 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: freeware nation References: <836AEDC9D836D211B4720001FA7EC2D202A79440@ntemail1-tr.ius.indiana.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com One that I love is Sound Raider, there is a free version and I bought the full $15 version. Its so cool and it does nothing but run through your hard drive playing, um mangling wavs. Wonderfuly horrible! You can check it out at http://www.andyw.com/raider/ jd "LEE, THANIEL I" wrote: > hey, its me thaniel, im trying to make a joke electro-techno band im going > to call it freeware nation, any have any sugestions on some nifty/cheesey > techno freeware. - your pal thaniel the wonder gimp > i already have a > TRACKER > A MIDI FRACTAL MUSIC GENERATOR > AND A CD BURNER From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 17:27:21 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA23900; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 17:25:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 17:25:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <011d01c0cdce$1662baa0$7b87abd4@LucaFormentini> From: "luca" To: Subject: edp for sale Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:17:44 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com anyone in Europe interested in a full loaded Oberheim Echoplex with pedal board ? well, I'd have no problems in sending it anywhere, just let me know. luca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 17:31:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA24024; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 17:29:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 17:29:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 16:24:20 -0500 From: "Ted Geerdink" To: Subject: Re: freeware nation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id RAA23989 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Greetings Fellow Loopers, I think this site http://f6.co.nz/artificial/main.html would be great for the soon to be famous joke electro-techno band Freeware Nation, and anyone else looking for some free software and samples...etc... Does anyone out there own a Yamaha DDS-20M Digital Delay Sampler pedal? I just won the high bid for one on e-bay and supposedly it has 2 sec. of delay/sample time. It was cheap! $51, but I can't find any info online about this pedal. I have 3 of the old Digitech PDS series pedals and love 'em, so that's why I'm interested in this Yamaha. Ted > hey, its me thaniel, im trying to make a joke electro-techno band im going > to call it freeware nation, any have any sugestions on some nifty/cheesey > techno freeware. - your pal thaniel the wonder gimp From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 17:45:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA24344; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 17:39:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 17:39:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005701c0cdd0$260f4340$19676ec3@abu10784> From: "Massimo Liverani" To: References: <011d01c0cdce$1662baa0$7b87abd4@LucaFormentini> Subject: R: edp for sale (price?) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:38:59 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes, maybe but the price? Let me know, Luca...are you italian? > anyone in Europe interested in a full loaded Oberheim Echoplex with pedal > board ? > well, I'd have no problems in sending it anywhere, > > just let me know. > > luca > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 18:12:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA26055; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:10:52 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:10:52 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <013901c0cdd4$3e22c200$7b87abd4@LucaFormentini> From: "luca" To: References: <011d01c0cdce$1662baa0$7b87abd4@LucaFormentini> <005701c0cdd0$260f4340$19676ec3@abu10784> Subject: R: edp for sale (price?) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 00:08:20 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I am Italian and I live in Italy Massimo ... ----- Original Message ----- From: Massimo Liverani To: Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 11:38 PM Subject: R: edp for sale (price?) > Yes, maybe but the price? > Let me know, Luca...are you italian? > > > anyone in Europe interested in a full loaded Oberheim Echoplex with pedal > > board ? > > well, I'd have no problems in sending it anywhere, > > > > just let me know. > > > > luca > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 18:14:17 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA26169; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:12:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:12:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001c01c0cdd4$cb460b60$46b94e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: Subject: Re: correction Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:12:11 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0CDB3.3F41F0A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0CDB3.3F41F0A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tim's extremely liberated, and a great proponent of the Freedom of the = Individual. Why, in some quarters he's even referred to as "Tim Nelson = Mandela" -----Original Message----- From: David Potter To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com = Date: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 2:05 PM Subject: Re: correction =20 =20 I think it's perfectly fine that Tim Nelson showed up at your house = dressed as a fairy. How liberated of him. It's about time all fairys = came out of the closet and be heard......Right on Tim Nelson!!!!! Be = Free Free the = Fairys............................................. =20 =20 >From: "matt davignon"=20 >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20 >To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20 >Subject: correction=20 >Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:06:39 -0700=20 >=20 >About a week ago, I posted an email that this site that seemed to=20 >erroneously suggest that Tim Nelson showed up at my house dressed = as=20 >a=20 >fairy. I would like to take a moment to point out that if anybody=20 >misunderstood my message to suggest such a silly thing, then it was = >an=20 >incorrect interpretation of the words that I evidently did not=20 >choose=20 >wisely.=20 >=20 >To clear up any possible confusion, Tim Nelson absolutely DID NOT=20 >show up at=20 >my house dressed as a fairy. In fact, at the moment discussed in my = >email,=20 >Tim was most likely at home doing something extremely masculine,=20 >like fixing=20 >a car or boxing or something.=20 >=20 >Apologies,=20 >=20 >Matt Davignon=20 >_________________________________________________________________=20 >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com=20 >=20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- =20 Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0CDB3.3F41F0A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tim's extremely liberated, and a great = proponent of the=20 Freedom of the Individual.  Why, in some quarters he's even = referred to as=20 "Tim Nelson Mandela"
-----Original = Message-----
From:=20 David Potter <papadave55@hotmail.com>
= To:=20 Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com=20 <Loopers-Delight@loope= rs-delight.com>
Date:=20 Wednesday, April 25, 2001 2:05 PM
Subject: Re:=20 correction

I think it's perfectly fine that Tim Nelson showed up at your = house=20 dressed as a fairy.  How liberated of him.  It's about = time all=20 fairys came out of the closet and be heard......Right on Tim=20 Nelson!!!!!  Be Free

=

           &nbs= p;            = ;            =             &= nbsp;=20 Free the=20 = Fairys.............................................

>From: "matt = davignon"=20
>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=20
>To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com=20
>Subject: correction=20
>Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 21:06:39 -0700=20
>=20
>About a week ago, I posted an email that this site = that=20 seemed to=20
>erroneously suggest that Tim Nelson showed up at my = house=20 dressed as=20
>a=20
>fairy. I would like to take a moment to point out = that if=20 anybody=20
>misunderstood my message to suggest such a silly = thing, then=20 it was=20
>an=20
>incorrect interpretation of the words that I = evidently did=20 not=20
>choose=20
>wisely.=20
>=20
>To clear up any possible confusion, Tim Nelson = absolutely DID=20 NOT=20
>show up at=20
>my house dressed as a fairy. In fact, at the moment = discussed=20 in my=20
>email,=20
>Tim was most likely at home doing something extremely = masculine,=20
>like fixing=20
>a car or boxing or something.=20
>=20
>Apologies,=20
>=20
>Matt Davignon=20 =
>__________________________________________________________= _______=20 =20
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------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0CDB3.3F41F0A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 18:15:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA26217; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:13:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:13:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001d01c0cdd4$ec12f4c0$46b94e0c@u73x0> From: "James Pokorny" To: , Subject: Re: correction Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:13:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Miko wrote: >A masculine one... >-m Would that be a "willie" Nelson? >>>> wedgehed@yahoo.com 04/24/01 09:44PM >>> >Is a wand being held to your head? > >John > > >--- matt davignon wrote: >> About a week ago, I posted an email that this site >> that seemed to >> erroneously suggest that Tim Nelson showed up at my >> house dressed as a >> fairy. I would like to take a moment to point out >> that if anybody >> misunderstood my message to suggest such a silly >> thing, then it was an >> incorrect interpretation of the words that I >> evidently did not choose >> wisely. >> >> To clear up any possible confusion, Tim Nelson >> absolutely DID NOT show up at >> my house dressed as a fairy. In fact, at the moment >> discussed in my email, >> Tim was most likely at home doing something >> extremely masculine, like fixing >> a car or boxing or something. >> >> Apologies, >> >> Matt Davignon >> >_________________________________________________________________ >> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >> http://explorer.msn.com >> > > >===== >John Tidwell > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 18:28:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA26587; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:26:26 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 18:26:26 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 15:20:10 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Recycle In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 11:50 AM -0700 4/25/01, Professor Vast wrote: >anyone know where i could get a pdf manual for Recycle 1.6? Don't know about 1.6, but the 1.7 manual is included in the ReCycle! demo. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD zvonar@zvonar.com (818) 788-2202 voice zvonar@LCSaudio.com (818) 788-2203 fax zvonar@well.com http://www.zvonar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 19:17:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA28579; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:16:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:16:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [207.217.34.34] From: "Professor Vast" To: References: Subject: Re: Recycle Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 16:12:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Apr 2001 23:14:28.0119 (UTC) FILETIME=[79CB0A70:01C0CDDD] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i got it....thanks for the info, it's gonna help out a lot. btw, i'm in the 818 area too - where abouts are you? db ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Zvonar To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2001 3:20 PM Subject: Re: Recycle At 11:50 AM -0700 4/25/01, Professor Vast wrote: >anyone know where i could get a pdf manual for Recycle 1.6? Don't know about 1.6, but the 1.7 manual is included in the ReCycle! demo. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD zvonar@zvonar.com (818) 788-2202 voice zvonar@LCSaudio.com (818) 788-2203 fax zvonar@well.com http://www.zvonar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 19:21:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA28703; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:19:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:19:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE75BED.702AB20B@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 16:22:14 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new member References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Professor Vast wrote: > just joined list today so i thought i'd say hi. i've had rebirth, just got > an old version of recycle and a new version of Acid and am gonna start > taking my electronic stuff to the next level with using these music apps. i > do mostly acid and tech dnb stuff. i'm a guitarist so it plays a part in the > music. > > any los angeles members out there? > > dino > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com hello dino, welcome to the list. there are several of us in the los angeles area. i personally don't know much of anything about recycle/acid/rebirth, etc., as my loop-generating/recording system is somewhat old-school: acoustic/electric/electronic instruments>mixer>edp>etc.>hard disc recorder>burner but there are those among us well versed in what you're using. you should find interesting threads in the archive, if ya haven't checked it out already: http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/wilma/LDarchive ciao, lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 20:54:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA31535; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 20:49:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 20:49:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010425204833.007f4e40@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 20:48:33 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: correction In-Reply-To: <001d01c0cdd4$ec12f4c0$46b94e0c@u73x0> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6502 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 06:13 PM 4/25/01 -0400, you wrote: >Miko wrote: >Would that be a "willie" Nelson? Sheeeeesh.... Look what you've started, Matt. -t From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 21:59:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA01548; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 21:56:51 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 21:56:51 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <70.a00e0b4.2818da16@aol.com> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 21:55:34 EDT Subject: say hi to desy and billy To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_70.a00e0b4.2818da16_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: <144aID.A.6X.3A456@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6503 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_70.a00e0b4.2818da16_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/25/01 1:02:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, theliquidspace@hotmail.com writes: > any los angeles members out there? > welcome dino!.....michael --part1_70.a00e0b4.2818da16_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/25/01 1:02:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
theliquidspace@hotmail.com writes:


any los angeles members out there?

welcome dino!.....michael
--part1_70.a00e0b4.2818da16_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 22:18:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA03063; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 22:17:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 22:17:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <69.1451d07e.2818dee9@aol.com> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 22:16:09 EDT Subject: Re: correction To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_69.1451d07e.2818dee9_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: <0KLZXC.A.Gv.KU456@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6504 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_69.1451d07e.2818dee9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/25/01 8:49:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tcn62@ici.net writes: > Sheeeeesh.... > > Look what you've started, Matt. > > -t > not to steal any of the well deserved attention that mr. nelson is getting.....but.....the final nite of the "one is born every min." tour ended tonite.....its odd (maybe not though) that no one claps but they will pull you aside and say something to the effect that "that was nice, we liked it".....just what i needed, a new addiction!.....one person actually said "THANK YOU" and really seemed to mean it.....very hip.....i like this playin out thing.....and they buy you drinks.....:).....michael p.s. i think tim nelson is a swell guy --part1_69.1451d07e.2818dee9_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/25/01 8:49:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tcn62@ici.net
writes:


Sheeeeesh....

Look what you've started, Matt.

-t


not to steal any of the well deserved attention that mr. nelson is
getting.....but.....the final nite of the "one is born every min." tour ended
tonite.....its odd (maybe not though) that no one claps but they will pull
you aside and say something to the effect  that "that was nice, we liked
it".....just what i needed, a new addiction!.....one person actually said
"THANK YOU" and really seemed to mean it.....very hip.....i like this playin
out thing.....and they buy you drinks.....:).....michael

p.s. i think tim nelson is a swell guy --part1_69.1451d07e.2818dee9_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Apr 25 22:25:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA03414; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 22:23:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 22:23:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002901c0cdf7$b64a1b20$839fb2d1@prelayomb> From: "Candace Meyer" To: References: <7783A141C794D4118AAA00306E00B0B1E8FEC3@msgatl06.iss.net> Subject: Re: Digitec IPS 33B Urgently Required Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:22:15 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <8bN4ED.A.w0.cZ456@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6505 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey-- Just an update on this thread--I have an IPS-33b that I am shipping to Phil--he's in a Queen tribute band. I have had my IPS in storage for YEARS so it's great to supply it to someone who is putting it to use--plus I get to keep the handheld programmer which works on my PMC-10! Gary From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 00:01:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA07312; Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:59:37 -0400 Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:59:37 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 20:45:06 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Recycle In-reply-to: X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: Resent-Message-ID: <963NtC.A.0hB.1z556@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6506 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 4:12 PM -0700 4/25/01, Professor Vast wrote: >i got it....thanks for the info, it's gonna help out a lot. > >btw, i'm in the 818 area too - where abouts are you? Sherman Oaks -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD zvonar@zvonar.com (818) 788-2202 voice zvonar@LCSaudio.com (818) 788-2203 fax zvonar@well.com http://www.zvonar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 01:13:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA09430; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 01:12:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 01:12:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 22:04:02 -0700 Subject: Re: Recycle Message-ID: <20010425.220402.-86449.0.tony-moore@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0-5,7-24 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: Tony Moore Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6507 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com burbank for me. i'd love to hang with any local loopers! tony On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 20:45:06 -0700 Richard Zvonar writes: > At 4:12 PM -0700 4/25/01, Professor Vast wrote: > >i got it....thanks for the info, it's gonna help out a lot. > > > >btw, i'm in the 818 area too - where abouts are you? > > Sherman Oaks > -- > > ______________________________________________________________ > Richard Zvonar, PhD zvonar@zvonar.com > (818) 788-2202 voice zvonar@LCSaudio.com > (818) 788-2203 fax zvonar@well.com > > http://www.zvonar.com > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 02:28:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA12010; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 02:24:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 02:24:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010426062411.5919.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 23:24:11 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Dear Italo, To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000d01c0cd86$afb28d40$adaf1597@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6508 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com What we have here is...failure to communicate. The reasons I have not posted anything on the Eventide group are as follows: a) there is nothing I could tell anyone there about an Eventide. b) any questions that I had were answered by reading the archives. In fact, I found answers to questions I had not even considered asking yet. As far as the Eclipse goes, I know that you have seen one demo-ed & were impressed. I know that(according to you) it has 40 seconds of delay time. I know that it has 5 times the power of the H3000 series. I know that Eventide is trying to include user favorites from other Eventide boxes as part of its presets. I know that it is not shipping yet. I also know that it is the only product from Eventide that falls within my budget. I fear I may have offended you by writing.... "Unfortunately, lurking there means reading Italo's posts on what he's doing to Orville!" Italo, in truth, I meant that as a compliment, not a slam. What I should have elaborated on was that reading your posts about your Orville patches are not only entertaining, but informative & inspiring. My use of the word "unfortunate" simply meant that you blew my plan & presented me with a problem. The problem being.. ........I want what I can not have. Orville. So, Italo, it is your fault that I'm even considering Kyma. I hold you personally responsible for my feelings of unrequited lust, gear envy, & potential loss of revenue. Not to mention being unfairly "italocized". I may consult a lawyer. :) :) :) John ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 03:08:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA13696; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 03:06:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 03:06:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Message-Id: <200104260705.AAA22188@gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 00:07:49 -0700 Subject: Re: new member To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6509 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com just for info's sake what are you using after edp exactly and how are the results? jus wonderin... goinloopy stanner ---------- >From: lance glover >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: new member >Date: Wed, Apr 25, 2001, 4:22 PM > >Professor Vast wrote: > >> just joined list today so i thought i'd say hi. i've had rebirth, just got >hello dino, welcome to the list. >acoustic/electric/electronic instruments>mixer>edp>etc.>hard disc >recorder>burner > >ciao, > >lance g. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 03:30:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA13991; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 03:27:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 03:27:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001f01c0ce22$190d8420$6cb71597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: References: <20010426062411.5919.qmail@web10004.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Dear Italo, Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 09:25:38 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6510 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com No problem, John...I feel better now!!! Thanx Italo ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Tidwell" To: Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2001 8:24 AM Subject: Dear Italo, > What we have here is...failure to communicate. > > The reasons I have not posted anything on the Eventide > group are as follows: > > a) there is nothing I could tell anyone there about > an Eventide. > b) any questions that I had were answered by reading > the archives. > > In fact, I found answers to questions I had not even > considered asking yet. > > As far as the Eclipse goes, I know that you have seen > one demo-ed & were impressed. I know that(according to > you) it has 40 seconds of delay time. I know that it > has 5 times the power of the H3000 series. I know that > Eventide is trying to include user favorites from > other Eventide boxes as part of its presets. I know > that it is not shipping yet. I also know that it is > the only product from Eventide that falls within my > budget. > > I fear I may have offended you by writing.... > > "Unfortunately, lurking there means reading Italo's > posts on what he's doing to Orville!" > > Italo, in truth, I meant that as a compliment, not a > slam. What I should have elaborated on was that > reading > your posts about your Orville patches are not only > entertaining, but informative & inspiring. My use of > the word "unfortunate" simply meant that you blew my > plan & presented me with a problem. The problem > being.. > ........I want what I can not have. Orville. > > So, Italo, it is your fault that I'm even considering > Kyma. I hold you personally responsible for my > feelings > of unrequited lust, gear envy, & potential loss of > revenue. Not to mention being unfairly "italocized". > I may consult a lawyer. :) :) :) > > John > > > > > > > > > > > ===== > John Tidwell > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 04:27:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA15725; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 04:24:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 04:24:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <7a.1408ee90.2819350c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 04:23:40 EDT Subject: Budget filters stupid name To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 106 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6511 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Has anyone come across a device called the THC-00 Resinator by FAT. I've seen it available in UK, with a brief description but can't find any info on the web=20 (isn't that the wrong way round altogether?) apparently this device takes a mono signal then puts it through 3 analogue filters and then autopans it. with LFO, envelope follower, and also CV input and it's 1U rackmount the ad said it was=20 'good for making loops interesting'=20 =20 at =A3150 that's a bit tempting andy butler From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 04:51:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA16140; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 04:48:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 04:48:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE7FC61.53F71BA6@vtx.ch> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:45:53 +0000 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Budget filters stupid name References: <7a.1408ee90.2819350c@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6512 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com SoundFNR@aol.com wrote: > > Has anyone come across a device called the > THC-00 Resinator by FAT. THC=00 the specs look like total CRAP by Amsterdam Coffee shop scale > I've seen it available in UK, with a brief description > but can't find any info on the web > (isn't that the wrong way round altogether?) > > apparently this device takes a mono signal > then puts it through 3 analogue filters and 3 filter is complete NONSENSE by Amsterdam Coffee shop ISO > then autopans it. who can autopan with THC:00 ?? CRAP !!!! > with LFO, envelope follower, > and also CV input I NEVER endorsed this CRAPPY product > and it's 1U rackmount LOL > the ad said it was > 'good for making loops interesting' are your loops un-interesting ? get a life > at £150 that's a bit tempting is it 150 a pound ? it a lot too much for THC:00 guys be pro once!! Claude Voit 8=) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 04:51:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA16139; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 04:48:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 04:48:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010426084752.91358.qmail@web10003.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 01:47:52 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: Re: Budget filters stupid name To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7a.1408ee90.2819350c@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6513 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Here's another interesting filter with little info available. http://formen.ign.com/news/30722.html John --- SoundFNR@aol.com wrote: > Has anyone come across a device called the > THC-00 Resinator by FAT. > I've seen it available in UK, with a brief > description > but can't find any info on the web > (isn't that the wrong way round altogether?) > > apparently this device takes a mono signal > then puts it through 3 analogue filters and > then autopans it. > with LFO, envelope follower, > and also CV input > > and it's 1U rackmount > > the ad said it was > 'good for making loops interesting' > > at £150 that's a bit tempting > > andy butler > ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 05:41:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA17815; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 05:40:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 05:40:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000001c0ce34$be6b53e0$04a86fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: <3.0.5.32.20010425081728.007e8210@pop.ici.net> Subject: Re: midi rolls & gig stuff Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:22:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6514 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Just wanted to share my delight in my new looping interface. Thanks to my new midi rolls pedal I have 4 switches and 4 pedals plugged up and sending midi messages to Kyma. I used it for the first time live last night. Four independant stereo delay lines, (3.6secs, 7.2s, 14.4s and 28.8s, (that's a lot of secs for one night oops )) for some dense texturing/detexturing. Keepng track of what I recorded where was the only problem. Incidentally I decided to tell my audience what was going on in the sense that I was live multitracking. A few people came up and said they appreciated this information without which they would have assumed I was using backing tracks. PS I also used two Leslie speakers, (Dawson & Neilson) - I feel I'm getting closer to, (lots of reverb) THE ULTIMATE RIG- WHOOOHOHOHAHHAHAHAHHEHEHE................. Gareth, (calming down now) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 07:46:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA21123; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 07:43:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 07:43:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010426074255.007eb520@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 07:42:55 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: Budget filters stupid name In-Reply-To: <7a.1408ee90.2819350c@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6515 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 04:23 AM 4/26/01 EDT, you wrote: >Has anyone come across a device called the >THC-00 Resinator by FAT. >I've seen it available in UK, with a brief description >but can't find any info on the web >(isn't that the wrong way round altogether?) I couldn't find much on it either, except for a couple of listings of used ones for sale. I did find some reviews of other units made by FAT (which stands for Freeform Analogue Technologies) and the general theme that ran through those reviews was that the units seemed to be of fairly shoddy construction. (The other units were a Roland Bassline clone [the Freebass] and a vocoder [the Procoder PCP-somethingorother]. Sounds like the ganja fairy's been at work in the UK with that drug-related nomenclature...) -t From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 08:23:13 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA22704; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 08:21:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 08:21:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: <82.a275d23.28196c6c@aol.com> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 08:19:56 EDT Subject: Re: Budget filters stupid name To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 106 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6516 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Claude wrote > get a life are these shipping yet? andy (er he's just kidding ....right??) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 10:52:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA26984; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:46:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:46:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE83498.15DFF322@bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:45:49 -0400 From: steve Reply-To: studio_t@bellsouth.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Budget filters stupid name References: <82.a275d23.28196c6c@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6517 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com SoundFNR@aol.com wrote: > Claude wrote > > > get a life > > are these shipping yet? > > andy > > (er he's just kidding ....right??) yeah please let me know about THAT product release, I am getting a little tired of sitting in my room facinated by sound and the nature of the universe t From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 11:10:16 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA28330; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 11:03:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 11:03:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004601c0ce60$e5cd1960$6b44230a@mlameyer02> X-Sybari-Space: 00000000 00000000 00000000 From: "Michael LaMeyer" To: Subject: Unofficial voluntary loopfest sponsoring Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 10:54:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6518 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Why should YOU send YOUR loops to the Loopers Delight J? 10. you don't have a repeater yet 9. you don't know what else to do with that loop you made of your keys jingling 8. you want me to stop mailing the list about this crap 7. you don't want to just hand your hard work over to somebody halfway across the planet who's only going to sic some frankenstein collection of hardware and software on it and mangle the begeezes out of it ... wait a sec 6. the mere thought of a bunch of far east blokes packed in a cute little lab and going wack on your loops nearly makes you fall out of your chair laughing 5. you feel sorry for me 4. you need to clean up your hard drive, and audio takes up more space than pictures 3. you just learned what ftp stands for, now use that power for good! 2. you don't think you're going to make any royalties off of that piece you composed entirely of snoring samples anyway AND THE NUMBER ONE REASON!!! ..... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... .... 1. you've tried to unsubscribe and you can't, YOU WANT REVENGE!!!! :-) ftp://www.cavestudio.co.uk user: looper pass: heaven DEADLINE April 30th!!!!!! I love you all! Really! Save me from my own loops, PLEASE! Mike From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 12:03:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA29342; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 11:58:27 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 11:58:27 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE84573.36B69900@bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 11:57:43 -0400 From: steve Reply-To: studio_t@bellsouth.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT; kyma References: <004601c0ce60$e5cd1960$6b44230a@mlameyer02> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6519 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com well, I certainly don't want to piss anyone off and have to read someones strongly held opinions and long winded rant but.... I came a cross a guy selling a used kyma system and I thought I'd give the group a heads up because there has been a good amount of discussion recently and in the past I am not selling it, I have no interest in the sale, I bought an interface from the gent and got a good deal and he was a good guy to deal with, employed at motu, seems like a very reasonable sort, oh yeah he's also looking to trade on other gear heres a link to his page; http://www.apocalypse.org/~matthew/sale peace, ya'll From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 14:42:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA03285; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 14:38:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 14:38:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <047301c0ce7f$e3990a40$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: <004601c0ce60$e5cd1960$6b44230a@mlameyer02> <3AE84573.36B69900@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: OT; kyma Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 13:37:03 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6520 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > . . . > I came a cross a guy selling a used kyma system and I thought I'd give > the group a heads up because there has been a good amount of discussion > recently and in the past > . . . > http://www.apocalypse.org/~matthew/sale This could be a good deal, depending on his price. But be aware that it's a Capybara-66 instead of the latest, more powerful, Capybara-320. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 14:44:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA03376; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 14:41:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 14:41:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE86C2D.EA622126@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 11:46:39 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new member References: <200104260705.AAA22188@gull.mail.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6521 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com stanitarium@earthlink.net wrote: > just for info's sake what are you using after edp exactly and how are the > results? jus wonderin... > > goinloopy > stanner > ---------- > >From: lance glover > >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >Subject: Re: new member > >Date: Wed, Apr 25, 2001, 4:22 PM > > > > >Professor Vast wrote: > > > >> just joined list today so i thought i'd say hi. i've had rebirth, just got > > >hello dino, welcome to the list. > >acoustic/electric/electronic instruments>mixer>edp>etc.>hard disc > >recorder>burner > > > >ciao, > > > >lance g. > > oh, let's see... after the edp it's mostly for signal enhancement, rather than effects processsing, i.e. sometimes i go thru one of those little art tube mp preamps, then into the recorder; and/or sometimes i compress things with a joemeek vc6; but most often it goes straight into a vox ac15 or a fender twin, then mic'd (sm57, akg c1000s) into either of those preamps, then it hits the recorder. i'm happiest with the ac15 if i'm looping mostly guitar, i like that sound a lot. if there are other sources, generally mic'd things- percussion & found stuff, i tend not to use the amp; for keyboard i experiment with different amps- i generally prefer this to a direct signal- my studio is fairly lively (concrete floor, etc.) and i like trying to capture some of that room sound... hope that helps! best, lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 16:10:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07078; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 16:05:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 16:05:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 12:18:39 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: OT; kyma X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: studio_t@bellsouth.net, Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6522 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I wrote: >I believe this Kyma system appeared on eBay a while back (that >seller was also employed by MoTU so I assume it's the same person). >It didn't sell, probably because the reserve price was close to the >price for a fully loaded refurbished unit from Symbolic Sound. A clarification: Not "fully loaded." The LS comes with two expansion cards, and is configured to have about the same processing power as the current generation of Capybara 320 hardware. According to Kurt Hebel at Symbolic, there are just a few of these available. Personally, if I were to spring for a Kyma system I'd pay the $3,300 for the latest generation, since that would provide 4-channel I/O and would be more fully upgradeable. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD zvonar@zvonar.com (818) 788-2202 voice zvonar@LCSaudio.com (818) 788-2203 fax zvonar@well.com http://www.zvonar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 16:17:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA07346; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 16:14:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 16:14:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <200104262012.f3QKCgN04292@picard.skynet.be> From: "Hugo Haesaert" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:11:28 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Budget filters stupid name Reply-to: hugo.haesaert@skynet.be Priority: normal In-reply-to: <7a.1408ee90.2819350c@aol.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6523 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi All ! Claude was joking ;^) This range of units are rebadged from the german MAM range . Pretty silly names they used too . (maybe even built in UK ?) The resinator is a triple bandpass filter re-engineered from the resonator section of the legendary Korg PS3200 polysynth . This was done by Juergen Haible, also responible for the Synthtech MOTM410 triple resonator module . Check out www.synthtech.com for more details . One characteristic of these filters is that their frequency is controlled by Vactrol's (led-ldr) . It gives a kind of chorusing effect . No cheap Sherman or Moogerfooger i'm afraid . Pretty nice tho . Hope this helps . Cheers . Keep 'em oscillating :) Hugo (back to lurking, and waiting for the EDP/Repeater in Belgium) = From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 17:21:24 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA09665; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:16:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:16:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010426211502.98938.qmail@graffiti.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "L. E." To: lance glover , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 05:15:02 +0800 Subject: new member with some cool edit pro ???? Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6524 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hey im a new member also!! woo hoo for me right? hahaha anyways i have some questions about cool edit pro 1. How do i change the speed of a sample to accuratly fit it into a beat I generally want to use a 4 x 4 beat for producing techno, house but what i have been having problems with is i cant figure out a way in cool edit to change the speed (either lengthen or shorten a loop) say i took a gutiar sample and found where i wanted to be the begining and end of the loop. its clocked at about 70 bpm and i want this loop to fitin so the line runs every 2 beats. at 150 im +10bpm. but where is any kind of speed control for cooledit pro?? 2. Does anyone have a cracked version of acid (this would eliminate the need for the first question) as i can change sppens or let the computer match the beats (am i wrong about this?) Bio: i have been djing around the sf area for about 2 years now, mostly cheesy disco house and tech house. I love jungle and breaks also. I have put on three partys in this area including "mission critical" , "doublemint", and "Save the Rave Forest". I have been djing under the name cool hand luke but i have begun to realize there is about 10 other djs with this name. I hope this list satisfys my need for some usefull producing info since i am just starting out. equip: I dont have much producing equipment other then my mixer Numark em460 with a built in kaoss pad. i have a cracked version of cool edit pro and hammer head for some simple beat creation. Anyone have any full/cracked versions of other fun music softwares? im down to do a trade with my cool edit pro (worth i belive about 350$) MrNyceGuy "comes over to my place" "gonna get you high, gonna make you fly!" -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 17:30:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA09991; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:28:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:28:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010426211502.98938.qmail@graffiti.net> References: <20010426211502.98938.qmail@graffiti.net> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 14:23:14 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ???? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1223802298==_ma============" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6525 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --============_-1223802298==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Welcome! hope you enjoy the list. lots of information traded here amidst gear lust, philosophy, ego wars, international semantics, good books to read, etiquette, fairy sightings and more! however, from my experience, there isn't a lot of cracked software trading going on here, and many of the member have very justified opinions on pirated software that you might not agree with. should be some of the arguments from both sides in the archives, if you're interested. so enjoy the list, but i would suggest keeping your software trading discreet and off-list. cheers, rich >hey im a new member also!! woo hoo for me right? >hahaha anyways i have some questions about cool edit pro > >Anyone have any full/cracked versions of other fun music softwares? >im down to do a trade with my cool edit pro (worth i belive about >350$) > >MrNyceGuy --============_-1223802298==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Re: new member with some cool edit pro ????
Welcome!

hope you enjoy the list.  lots of information traded here amidst gear lust, philosophy, ego wars, international semantics, good books to read, etiquette, fairy sightings and more!

however, from my experience, there isn't a lot of cracked software trading going on here, and many of the member have very justified opinions on pirated software that you might not agree with.  should be some of the arguments from both sides in the archives, if you're interested.

so enjoy the list, but i would suggest keeping your software trading discreet and off-list.

cheers,

rich


hey im a new member also!! woo hoo for me right?
hahaha anyways i have some questions about cool edit pro
Anyone have any full/cracked versions of other fun music softwares? im down to do a trade with my cool edit pro (worth i belive about 350$)

MrNyceGuy
--============_-1223802298==_ma============-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 17:47:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA10357; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:42:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:42:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: matthias@pop.e-net.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:45:33 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: RE: a hot street recorder Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: <0OaDK.A.ahC.HYJ66@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6526 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thank you for this link, Neal: >http://www.kuren.org/jukebox/index.shtml > >guy's taken the Nomad apart. interesting site. really interesting. There is a link to AudioRevew.com, where a revewer wrote: >I have attempted to record a few of my old records digitally, and >keep getting a really annoying and extremely high pitch throughout >the recording (both with microphone and line-in recordings). I wrote to the guy, but he did not answer yet. None of the others write about recording, it does not seem to be the main use... Bret found: >Here is a drawback as noted on >http://www.kuren.org/jukebox/opinion.html >--- >"No metering for the Recording mode (at least a clip indicator should >be there)" >---- >Guess you would have to build your own meters into a microphone preamp >to be used with the nomad, and calibrate them to correlate to clipping >levels. Else, live recording will be crapshoot. Yes, this appears in several places, but all from the same guy, seems hard to believe, no? Stephen found: >Problems are a potentially noisy line-in (can anyone >comfirm this? - see bottom of >http://www.kuren.org/jukebox/linein.html), I really wonder! An open input is no usefull reference for noise. And he sais he only heard the noise when he had boost on, so there might be in internal preamp we should not use. In the specs they give 90dB noise distance which is fine for me but may not be true. Also, the thing may have evolved... it certainly did in terms of price. -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 18:24:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA12268; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:20:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 18:20:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Sender: simran@phys-ha2mpkb-16.Eng.Sun.COM Message-ID: <3AE89ECC.52DE4012@Sun.COM> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 15:18:52 -0700 From: Simran gleason Organization: Sun Microsystems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Againinator plug-in module Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6527 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dear looprz, I just got the following (whooly unsolicitated) advert in my spambox. It looks like another must-get-it accessory to my panaceaic againinator. I don't know if it's shipping yet or not, though. Simran >Snoring problems? Let Snore Eliminator's all natural >ingredients help you keep your audience's attention! > >Is snoring drowning out the subtle passages of your loops? > No more sleepless nights with Snore Eliminator!! > >Let your family sleep again by using the Snore Eliminator! > >Do you know someone with a snoring problem? Snore >Eliminator will help them and they will love you for it. > >Improve your sexual performance by reducing snoring and >thus increasing oxygen to your body!! > > ... > > The noise is caused by a vibration in the soft palate as >the lungs pull hard to take in a weakened current of >incoming air. This blockage may result from any number of >circumstances, and these offer clues to get rid of the >problem. > >Snoring is also more than likely to occur among people who >sleep in their seats; the tongue falls back toward the >throat and partly closes the airway. [Note: this does sound a lot liek throat singing. Perhaps we should just sample the audience when they snore.] > >Snoring decreases sexual performance by half, due to lack >of oxygen to the brain which decreases sexual >responsiveness. [Note: the other half is decreased by the fact that they are asleep!] > ... > >TESTIMONIALS from several of our satisfied customers: > >Looopenzo writes... > >I am having a good nights sleep, finally. I used to wake >myself up during the performance which was a real bummer as I >would not always go back to sleep. Sleeping through the >entire second set is great. Thanks a lot Snore Eliminator. >PS: My girlfriend loves it as much or more than I do. > ... >How to Use Snore Eliminator: >Open your mouth >Hold the 4oz bottle about four inches from your audience >Spray one or two application onto the back of the crowd. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 19:11:56 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA14297; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 19:06:24 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 19:06:24 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010426230514.33883.qmail@graffiti.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "L. E." To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 07:05:14 +0800 Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ???? Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6528 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com well im used to list ettiquete being on a rave list myself... you havent seen ego wars till you see rave promoters going at it in sf! about the cracks and pirate issue.... I feel that without these apps i would have no chance to complete projects that require these expensive tools. While im sure there are some app developers on this list, im also sure the corporations make enough money with out the sale they would have never had. piracy i believe requires me to make money using this product, or to make copies and sell them. What im really trying to do is setup a semi working studio that i can make tracks with a lil less pain then its causing me now. i hope someone can give me some productive answers!!!!! MrNyceGuy "Biatch You KnOw what I want" "I wanna Talk to Sampson" "take me to the moon like that man peter frampton" "cause you know its hard being black and gifted" "sometimes i throw it all and get lifted" -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 19:41:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA14872; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 19:38:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 19:38:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 16:37:59 -0700 From: Andrew Pask Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ???? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <20010426230514.33883.qmail@graffiti.net> Message-ID: <20010426163800-r01010600-c4d9d278@192.168.1.1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; Charset=US-ASCII X-Mailer: Mailsmith 1.1.6 (Bluto) Resent-Message-ID: <5tjSCD.A.MoD.OFL66@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6529 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com On 4/27/01 at 7:05 AM, mr_nyce_guy@graffiti.net (L. E.) wrote: > well im used to list ettiquete being on a rave list myself... > you havent seen ego wars till you see rave promoters going at it in sf! > > about the cracks and pirate issue.... I feel that without these apps i would > have no chance to complete projects that require these expensive tools. While im > sure there are some app developers on this list, im also sure the corporations > make enough money with out the sale they would have never had. piracy i believe > requires me to make money using this product, or to make copies and sell them. > > What im really trying to do is setup a semi working studio that i can make > tracks with a lil less pain then its causing me now. > > i hope someone can give me some productive answers!!!!! Speaking only for myself, all I can say is that I find this kind of attitude completely uncool. Aside from the fact that it's no way to build a reliable and stable project studio. Do you expect to get paid for any of your work? Get real. BTW, there are a LOT of developers lurking here. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 20:08:27 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA16824; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:06:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:06:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20010426190449.00816c60@mail.airmail.net> X-Sender: mcl451@mail.airmail.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 19:04:49 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Michael Clark Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ???? In-Reply-To: <20010426163800-r01010600-c4d9d278@192.168.1.1> References: <20010426230514.33883.qmail@graffiti.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: <8wvggD.A.qGE.DfL66@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6530 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Do not steal the creative work of others. Sorry for the Preach. Michael At 04:37 PM 4/26/01 -0700, you wrote: >On 4/27/01 at 7:05 AM, mr_nyce_guy@graffiti.net (L. E.) wrote: > >> well im used to list ettiquete being on a rave list myself... >> you havent seen ego wars till you see rave promoters going at it in sf! >> >> about the cracks and pirate issue.... I feel that without these apps i would >> have no chance to complete projects that require these expensive tools. While >im >> sure there are some app developers on this list, im also sure the corporations >> make enough money with out the sale they would have never had. piracy i >believe >> requires me to make money using this product, or to make copies and sell them. >> >> What im really trying to do is setup a semi working studio that i can make >> tracks with a lil less pain then its causing me now. >> >> i hope someone can give me some productive answers!!!!! > >Speaking only for myself, all I can say is that I find this kind of attitude >completely uncool. Aside from the fact that it's no way to build a reliable and >stable project studio. Do you expect to get paid for any of your work? >Get real. BTW, there are a LOT of developers lurking here. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 20:15:03 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA17006; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:13:11 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:13:11 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [63.200.129.67] Reply-To: jon.wagner@stanfordalumni.org From: "Jon Wagner" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ???? Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 00:12:11 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Apr 2001 00:12:11.0718 (UTC) FILETIME=[B4AC0E60:01C0CEAE] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6531 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Why don't you just download ProTools' free demo. Its got most of the power of the full software version, and its free to use forever. Lets not start a software piracy flame war. please. http://www.digidesign.com/ptfree/index.html bye- jon _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 20:39:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA17474; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:35:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:35:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:32:07 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ???? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6532 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >>about the cracks and pirate issue.... I feel that without these >>apps i would have no chance to complete projects that require these >>expensive tools. While im sure there are some app developers on >>this list, im also sure the corporations make enough money with out >>the sale they would have never had. piracy i believe requires me to >>make money using this product, or to make copies and sell them. L.E., this is just the issues that we've gone over here. like i said, check out the archives. also, in your earlier post, you were willing to trade cool edit pro (and you gave a $$ value) for another piece of software. that's cash value that you were essentially willing to 'sell' to get another piece of software, no? if these apps are important to you to complete projects, and you don't have a moral problem with it, cool, go ahead. i was just stating that advertising it here would cause some heat. don't want to fan the flames...i'm done. just wanted to welcome you to the list and hope you can get some useful information here...god knows i have. as you can see, you've gotten a couple of responses from folks which indicates there are vehement opinions on both side of the fence which, when placed in conflict with each other, don't make for a friendly loop-happy environment. this is supposedly the reason we are here. i would agree with jon's sentiments below. take care, rich ps. having a chuckle at your 'half-baked' references...perhaps you'd be interested in the Resinator...a product that got discussed here today...say hi to wesley pipes for me...bye. >Why don't you just download ProTools' free demo. Its got most of >the power of the full software version, and its free to use forever. >Lets not start a software piracy flame war. please. > >http://www.digidesign.com/ptfree/index.html > >bye- >jon >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 20:57:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA17803; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:54:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 20:54:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: cbm@mail.well.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010426230514.33883.qmail@graffiti.net> References: <20010426230514.33883.qmail@graffiti.net> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 17:53:49 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Muir Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ???? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6533 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 7:05 AM +0800 4/27/01, L. E. wrote: >about the cracks and pirate issue.... I feel that without these apps >i would have no chance to complete projects that require these >expensive tools. And what is your point here? That your need to "complete projects" justifies your theft of another persons creative output? Weak. >While im sure there are some app developers on this list, im also >sure the corporations make enough money with out the sale they would >have never had. Most musical software companies are relatively small, founded by people who were passionate about doing the thing their software was designed to do. At the _very_ least, your attitude disrespects these people who are trying to make a living creating the programs that you use. Music software is not going to make anyone very rich. >piracy i believe requires me to make money using this product, or to >make copies and sell them. Are you arguing for some sort of "fair use" interpretation of the copyright law? If I read what you wrote correctly, your position is that it's not piracy unless you make money with, or sell copies of, the software in question. Get real. And then, in another message you write: >Anyone have any full/cracked versions of other fun music softwares? >im down to do a trade with my cool edit pro (worth i belive about >350$) Here you are trying to use one piece of stolen software as something to barter for more of the same. You even acknowledge the value of the software you are trying to trade. Even by your own definition, haven't you entered the realm of piracy with this offer of trade? >What im really trying to do is setup a semi working studio that i >can make tracks with a lil less pain then its causing me now. > >i hope someone can give me some productive answers!!!!! Get a job. -- __________________________________________________________________ Christopher Bryan Muir | "I had another dream the other day "Hurt Symphonic Barrier" | about music critics. They were http://www.xfade.com/ | small and rodent-like with cbm@well.com | padlocked ears." - Igor Stravinsky From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 23:10:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA23335; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:08:41 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:08:41 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003201c0cec7$30c981e0$0101a8c0@pavilion> From: "Brian Mulvey" To: References: <3AE84573.36B69900@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: OT; kyma Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:07:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6534 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com the cracked/pirate software thing is worse than the mac/pc thing. both sides: give it a rest before it starts overstuffing my inbox. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Apr 26 23:43:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA23969; Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:41:33 -0400 Resent-Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2001 23:41:33 -0400 Old-Return-Path: <2loose@cv.quik.com.au> Message-ID: <003e01c0cecb$38e6b2e0$0200a8c0@GregCampbell> From: "Alf" <2loose@cv.quik.com.au> To: References: <20010426230514.33883.qmail@graffiti.net> Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ???? Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:36:17 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6535 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'd just like to say this I have the full version of cooledit pro with updates that I BOUGHT and I am happy to say that you can't do what you want to do because you have a pirated version hehehe unlike me I can. Thankyou and good night ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Muir" To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 10:53 AM Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ???? > At 7:05 AM +0800 4/27/01, L. E. wrote: > >about the cracks and pirate issue.... I feel that without these apps > >i would have no chance to complete projects that require these > >expensive tools. > > And what is your point here? That your need to "complete projects" > justifies your theft of another persons creative output? Weak. > > > >While im sure there are some app developers on this list, im also > >sure the corporations make enough money with out the sale they would > >have never had. > > Most musical software companies are relatively small, founded by > people who were passionate about doing the thing their software was > designed to do. > > At the _very_ least, your attitude disrespects these people who are > trying to make a living creating the programs that you use. > > Music software is not going to make anyone very rich. > > > >piracy i believe requires me to make money using this product, or to > >make copies and sell them. > > Are you arguing for some sort of "fair use" interpretation of the > copyright law? If I read what you wrote correctly, your position is > that it's not piracy unless you make money with, or sell copies of, > the software in question. Get real. > > And then, in another message you write: > >Anyone have any full/cracked versions of other fun music softwares? > >im down to do a trade with my cool edit pro (worth i belive about > >350$) > > Here you are trying to use one piece of stolen software as something > to barter for more of the same. You even acknowledge the value of the > software you are trying to trade. Even by your own definition, > haven't you entered the realm of piracy with this offer of trade? > > > >What im really trying to do is setup a semi working studio that i > >can make tracks with a lil less pain then its causing me now. > > > >i hope someone can give me some productive answers!!!!! > > Get a job. > > > > -- > __________________________________________________________________ > Christopher Bryan Muir | "I had another dream the other day > "Hurt Symphonic Barrier" | about music critics. They were > http://www.xfade.com/ | small and rodent-like with > cbm@well.com | padlocked ears." - Igor Stravinsky > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 27 03:35:40 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA31127; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 03:34:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 03:34:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001f01c0ceeb$d0f61b00$9eb51597@default> From: "Italo De Angelis" To: References: <20010426230514.33883.qmail@graffiti.net> Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ???? Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:29:30 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: <33T5R.A.MmH._CS66@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6536 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Man, you are ridiculous!!!! Italo ----- Original Message ----- From: "L. E." To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 1:05 AM Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ???? > well im used to list ettiquete being on a rave list myself... > you havent seen ego wars till you see rave promoters going at it in sf! > > about the cracks and pirate issue.... I feel that without these apps i would have no chance to complete projects that require these expensive tools. While im sure there are some app developers on this list, im also sure the corporations make enough money with out the sale they would have never had. piracy i believe requires me to make money using this product, or to make copies and sell them. > > What im really trying to do is setup a semi working studio that i can make tracks with a lil less pain then its causing me now. > > i hope someone can give me some productive answers!!!!! > > > > MrNyceGuy > > "Biatch You KnOw what I want" > "I wanna Talk to Sampson" > "take me to the moon like that man peter frampton" > "cause you know its hard being black and gifted" > "sometimes i throw it all and get lifted" > -- > _______________________________________________ > Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net > Powered by Outblaze > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 27 05:13:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA01651; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 05:06:19 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 05:06:19 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003401c0cef9$3b661be0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <20010426230514.33883.qmail@graffiti.net> Subject: Cracks, Piracy, and Eenglish Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:05:21 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6537 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com 1. Flaunting one's illegal use of software - illegal by the fact that one hasn't legally bought a copy of a program that has a list price, unless it was a gift (and I suspect that it isn't) - only invites people like the RIAA to crow about how they're In The Right when they muzzle free speech and otherwise prevent people like US from producing our very legal work, in the name of protecting copyrights. 2. Disrespect is NOT a verb, no matter how much Limp Bizkit one listens to. 3. There are no such things as "softwares". "Software" may be used in the plural, as in "installing software"; or in the case of "software packages". Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! http://www.mp3.com/StephenGoodman * New MP3 Releases! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 27 05:45:53 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA02045; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 05:40:07 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 05:40:07 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE93E14.6917A26D@bellsouth.net> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 05:38:28 -0400 From: Jeff Duke X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com" Subject: Mike Nelson/Boomerang upgrade Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6538 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Does anyone know if mike is back yet/ i remembered that he took some personal time off. I wrote him a couple of emails w/ no response. Damn this shift key! jD From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 27 08:53:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA06974; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 08:51:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 08:51:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.20010427084734.00966220@192.168.0.1> X-Sender: floyd@192.168.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 08:49:56 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Floyd Miller Subject: Re: Cracks, Software Piracy Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6539 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com It doesn't matter how you justify your use of pirated software. It is stealing. Stealing from the software company that spent their time and money developing it. Stealing from those of us who use it honestly and paid slightly more for it because the manufacturer has to cover their costs - just like stores include the costs of recovering from shoplifting in the prices they charge. This is especially true for small-market products such as music software. If your going to use stolen property, I suppose that's your business and your decision. Just don't flaunt it. Dig? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 27 09:20:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA08541; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:17:38 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:17:38 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010427151412.00d6dad0@mail.dada.it> X-Sender: 03groundloopscom@mail.groundloops.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:17:56 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: leocavallo Subject: hi all Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6540 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com just two lines to say hi to Kim and all the Loopers-Delight old timers. I've been out of the list for a few years now, but I'm back with a bunch of new ideas and looping toys... ;) ciao leo www.groundloops.com c o o l . s o u n d s & s a m p l e . c d s f r e e . s a m p l e s . a r c h i v e From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 27 09:31:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA08895; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:29:23 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:29:23 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.112.30] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Cracks, Software Piracy Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:27:49 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Apr 2001 13:27:49.0643 (UTC) FILETIME=[DAB155B0:01C0CF1D] Resent-Message-ID: <12YXVB.A.yKC.6PX66@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6542 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com



Ok, is this a thread, or are specifically pointing me out !?! I guess you did not read my original "tome" against the evils of Software Piracy, and WareZ, and how they are detrimental to software development ! I would include that massive missive in this thread, but I do not wish to waste the bandwidth. Yes, WareZ are bad, buying and registering the software is good, end of story! Oh, has anyone tried the new Acid 3.0 ? it's da Bomb ! I am waiting with baited breath with my $99.00 (or $149.00) for when this application is released ! (Yea Sonic Foundry usually gives all the Beta Testers a price break, when the before the software is release publicly.... so watch for it).



 

----Original Message Follows----
From: Floyd Miller
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: Cracks, Software Piracy
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 08:49:56 -0400
It doesn't matter how you justify your use of pirated software.
It is stealing. Stealing from the software company that spent their
time and money developing it. Stealing from those of us who use
it honestly and paid slightly more for it because the manufacturer
has to cover their costs - just like stores include the costs of
recovering from shoplifting in the prices they charge.
This is especially true for small-market products such as music software.
If your going to use stolen property, I suppose that's your
business and your decision. Just don't flaunt it. Dig?

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 27 09:32:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA08818; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:27:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:27:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: PaulPokr@aol.com Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:26:18 EDT Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ???? To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Message-ID: <70.a09f24b.281acd7a@aol.com> Resent-Message-ID: <_Sok6C.A.gJC.bOX66@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6541 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hehehe... Italo's comments are always to the point. Regards, Paul From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 27 11:02:39 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA11268; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:55:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 10:55:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 09:52:52 -0500 From: "Ted Geerdink" To: Subject: 2 second looping pedals Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id KAA11218 Resent-Message-ID: <2qGxqB.A.hvC.YfY66@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6543 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi, I joined this list a few days ago to read about LOOPING instead of software piracy. So, has anyone played with a Yamaha DDS-20M digital delay/sampler pedal? Any comments when comparing it to the Digitech PDS series? Pedals can't be pirated. Awe yeah!! Ted From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 27 11:13:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA12555; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:08:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:08:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [208.16.219.10] From: "Pete Mundt" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: hi all Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:06:47 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Apr 2001 15:06:48.0124 (UTC) FILETIME=[AE4D9FC0:01C0CF2B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6544 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Welcome Back Leo!! You disappeared right after you sent me some samples of your stuff a while back. I've been meaning to tell you, I loved it! Hope to hear some more of your stuff soon. Pete. >From: leocavallo >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: hi all >Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:17:56 +0200 > > >just two lines to say hi to Kim and all the Loopers-Delight old timers. >I've been out of the list for a few years now, but I'm back with a bunch of >new ideas and looping toys... ;) > >ciao >leo > > >www.groundloops.com > >c o o l . s o u n d s & s a m p l e . c d s >f r e e . s a m p l e s . a r c h i v e > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 27 11:56:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA13456; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:52:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:52:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:50:43 -0400 Subject: free music NYC Sunday Apr 29 From: David Myers To: ~music spam list Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <24URqD.A.0RD.wVZ66@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6545 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --An in-store performance of Feedback Music by David Lee Myers-- Downtown Music Gallery 211 East 5th Street (off Bowery) New York City Sunday April 29th, 6:00 PM Admission free Please note that this is an hour earlier than previously announced... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 27 12:07:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA14742; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:00:22 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 12:00:22 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010427175918.00d3b7c0@mail.groundloops.com> X-Sender: 03groundloopscom@mail.groundloops.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 18:00:20 +0200 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: leocavallo Subject: Re: hi all In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6546 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com hi P At 11.06 27/04/01 -0400, you wrote: >Welcome Back Leo!! You disappeared right after you sent me some samples of >your stuff a while back. I've been meaning to tell you, I loved it! Hope >to hear some more of your stuff soon. thank you very much :) check out my website for more ciao leo www.groundloops.com c o o l . s o u n d s & s a m p l e . c d s f r e e . s a m p l e s . a r c h i v e From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 27 14:44:00 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA20273; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:37:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:37:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AE9BB98.E61BE4BE@zerocrossing.net> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:33:56 -0700 X-Sybari-Space: 00000000 00000000 00000000 From: Mark Sottilaro X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Againinator plug-in module Warning! References: <3AE89ECC.52DE4012@Sun.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6547 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Attention Loopers! Panaceaic in no way endorses the Snore Eliminator and installing it on your Againinator™ will void the warrantee, when and if the Againinator ships. We can however be sued for punitive damages, but I'm not sure why. Dolf Lungren Panaceaic Customer service. Simran gleason wrote: > Dear looprz, > I just got the following (whooly unsolicitated) advert > in my spambox. It looks like another must-get-it > accessory to my panaceaic againinator. I don't know > if it's shipping yet or not, though. > > Simran > > >Snoring problems? Let Snore Eliminator's all natural > >ingredients help you keep your audience's attention! > > > >Is snoring drowning out the subtle passages of your loops? > > No more sleepless nights with Snore Eliminator!! > > > >Let your family sleep again by using the Snore Eliminator! > > > >Do you know someone with a snoring problem? Snore > >Eliminator will help them and they will love you for it. > > > >Improve your sexual performance by reducing snoring and > >thus increasing oxygen to your body!! > > > > ... > > > > The noise is caused by a vibration in the soft palate as > >the lungs pull hard to take in a weakened current of > >incoming air. This blockage may result from any number of > >circumstances, and these offer clues to get rid of the >problem. > > > >Snoring is also more than likely to occur among people who > >sleep in their seats; the tongue falls back toward the > >throat and partly closes the airway. > > [Note: this does sound a lot liek throat singing. Perhaps > we should just sample the audience when they > snore.] > > > >Snoring decreases sexual performance by half, due to lack > >of oxygen to the brain which decreases sexual > >responsiveness. > [Note: the other half is decreased by the fact that they are > asleep!] > > > ... > > > > >TESTIMONIALS from several of our satisfied customers: > > > >Looopenzo writes... > > > >I am having a good nights sleep, finally. I used to wake > >myself up during the performance which was a real bummer as I > >would not always go back to sleep. Sleeping through the > >entire second set is great. Thanks a lot Snore Eliminator. > >PS: My girlfriend loves it as much or more than I do. > > > ... > > >How to Use Snore Eliminator: > >Open your mouth > >Hold the 4oz bottle about four inches from your audience > >Spray one or two application onto the back of the crowd. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 27 15:59:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA23209; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:57:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 15:57:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010427195534.73780.qmail@graffiti.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "L. E." To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 03:55:34 +0800 Subject: Re: new cooked member with some cool edit pro ???? Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6548 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ok ok so i have been thurouhly cooked by all of your opinions on piracy and software trading... so i retract my call for warez..? ok? ok! so what about my ???'s though?? no one has pro tools and can help me with the one thing im having trouble with? ohh and the Billy Bong Thorton is my fav > ps. having a chuckle at your 'half-baked' references...perhaps you'd > be interested in the Resinator...a product that got discussed here > today...say hi to wesley pipes for me...bye. MrNyceGuy "Biatch You KnOw what I want" "I wanna Talk to Sampson" "take me to the moon like that man peter frampton" "cause you know its hard being black and gifted" "sometimes i throw it all down and get lifted" -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 27 16:55:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA25905; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:53:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:53:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [64.108.198.109] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ???? Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 20:52:32 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Apr 2001 20:52:32.0355 (UTC) FILETIME=[FAD41330:01C0CF5B] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6549 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Download the beta of ACID Pro 3.0 from http://www.sonicfoundry.com/  then when they offer it for $99.00, buy it ('cuz, it'll be $349.00, when it's released... ) Then You will have a full registered version, with TECHNICAL Support help, so that you won't have to struggle with Cool Edit Pro.

----Original Message Follows----
From: "L. E."
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To: lance glover , Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: new member with some cool edit pro ????
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 05:15:02 +0800
hey im a new member also!! woo hoo for me right?
hahaha anyways i have some questions about cool edit pro
1. How do i change the speed of a sample to accuratly fit it into a beat
I generally want to use a 4 x 4 beat for producing techno, house
but what i have been having problems with is i cant figure out a way in cool edit to change the speed (either lengthen or shorten a loop)
say i took a gutiar sample and found where i wanted to be the begining and end of the loop. its clocked at about 70 bpm and i want this loop to fitin so the line runs every 2 beats. at 150 im +10bpm. but where is any kind of speed control for cooledit pro??
2. Does anyone have a cracked version of acid (this would eliminate the need for the first question) as i can change sppens or let the computer match the beats (am i wrong about this?)
Bio: i have been djing around the sf area for about 2 years now, mostly cheesy disco house and tech house. I love jungle and breaks also. I have put on three partys in this area including "mission critical" , "doublemint", and "Save the Rave Forest". I have been djing under the name cool hand luke but i have begun to realize there is about 10 other djs with this name. I hope this list satisfys my need for some usefull producing info since i am just starting out.
equip: I dont have much producing equipment other then my mixer Numark em460 with a built in kaoss pad. i have a cracked version of cool edit pro and hammer head for some simple beat creation. Anyone have any full/cracked versions of other fun music softwares? im down to do a trade with my cool edit pro (worth i belive about 350$)
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 27 16:58:25 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA26020; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:56:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:56:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [208.16.219.10] From: "Pete Mundt" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new cooked member ... Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:55:18 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Apr 2001 20:55:18.0504 (UTC) FILETIME=[5DDC6680:01C0CF5C] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6550 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com What was the origonal question, no really. Pete. >From: "L. E." >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >Subject: Re: new cooked member with some cool edit pro ???? >Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 03:55:34 +0800 > >ok ok so i have been thurouhly cooked by all of your opinions on piracy and >software trading... so i retract my call for warez..? > >ok? > >ok! > >so what about my ???'s though?? no one has pro tools and can help me with >the one thing im having trouble with? > >ohh and the Billy Bong Thorton is my fav > > > > > ps. having a chuckle at your 'half-baked' references...perhaps you'd > > be interested in the Resinator...a product that got discussed here > > today...say hi to wesley pipes for me...bye. > > >MrNyceGuy > >"Biatch You KnOw what I want" >"I wanna Talk to Sampson" >"take me to the moon like that man peter frampton" >"cause you know its hard being black and gifted" >"sometimes i throw it all down and get lifted" >-- >_______________________________________________ >Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net >Powered by Outblaze > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 27 18:38:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA30037; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 18:31:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 18:31:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002901c0cf69$87848aa0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <20010427195534.73780.qmail@graffiti.net> Subject: Re: new cooked member with some cool edit pro ???? Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:29:25 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: <-NZ50B.A.7UH.0Lf66@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6552 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Ask Syntrillium. At first I thought of answering - a lot of your questions can be answered by searching the help file, frankly - but then you revealed that you've not just ripped off Syntrillium but used a cracked version, and admitted it. This would indicate a lack of remorse for same, and therefore no sympathy from this sector. Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! http://www.mp3.com/StephenGoodman * New MP3 Releases! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 27 18:55:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA30025; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 18:30:53 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 18:30:53 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000d01c0cf69$84a9a540$fe666ec3@abu10784> From: "Massimo Liverani" To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010427151412.00d6dad0@mail.dada.it> Subject: R: hi all Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 00:29:23 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6551 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Escuse me for the Italian but he's a Friend... Ciao Leo! sono colui al quale hai venduto il jam-man (Massimo) e quindi hai contribuito alla mia formazione loopistica! Come vedi anch'io frequento questo...locale Bentornato quindi! > > just two lines to say hi to Kim and all the Loopers-Delight old timers. > I've been out of the list for a few years now, but I'm back with a bunch of > new ideas and looping toys... ;) > > ciao > leo > > > www.groundloops.com > > c o o l . s o u n d s & s a m p l e . c d s > f r e e . s a m p l e s . a r c h i v e > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 27 21:02:50 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA03363; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 21:00:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 21:00:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010428005905.74190.qmail@web14007.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 17:59:05 -0700 (PDT) From: sean conlon Subject: Custom Jam Man switch for sale. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <200104260851.EAA16274@hemlock.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6553 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey, I am selling a custom foot switch I had made for 3 jam mans that is basically 6 jam man switch's in a sturdy steel housing. It also has a masterswitch which "taps"(starts the selected function) of all three simultaneously. Also on board is an ABC box with a buffered output. Signals can be sent from any combination. This was so I could use three Jam mans left, center, right and send audio to any point in any combination. All of the switchoutputs and audio signals are put through a detachable snake. If anyone uses multiple Jam Mans this is a killer piece of gear. Housed in truck style industrial steel plating.It was custom made for $550 and I would like to sell it since I no longer use multiple Jam mans. I also have an expanded memory Jam man Which is still for sale. Let me Know if this sounds interesting to anyone. Take Care, Sean __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Apr 27 21:25:43 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA03830; Fri, 27 Apr 2001 21:24:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 21:24:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: <18.beca8f4.281b7576@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 21:23:02 EDT Subject: Re: hi all To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_18.beca8f4.281b7576_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10520 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6554 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --part1_18.beca8f4.281b7576_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/27/01 9:16:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, leocavallo@groundloops.com writes: > ciao > leo > > ola leo, welcome back.....michael --part1_18.beca8f4.281b7576_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/27/01 9:16:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
leocavallo@groundloops.com writes:


ciao
leo



ola leo, welcome back.....michael --part1_18.beca8f4.281b7576_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 28 04:18:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA16182; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 04:15:39 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 04:15:39 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: SoundFNR@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 04:13:57 EDT Subject: Re: All the OT threads together To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 32 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6555 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > Get a job. Claude told me they weren't worth having. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 28 04:24:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id EAA16343; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 04:23:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 04:23:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 04:22:14 -0400 Subject: Concertloop From: Ivan Zavada To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id EAA16314 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6556 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hello everyone, I just did a presentation at the SAT Société des Arts Technologiques(in French) in Montréal. The reason why I am sending you this e-mail is that for my presentation I used only looping, nothing else. And you know what? It worked. My piece was very well appreciated. It was part of an electroacoustic concert of all the University students of Montreal. It lasted a week ( 4 Universities over 100 performances). Tonight was the real-time performance event. All kinds of stuff. I used a computer to regenerate sound that I recorded on the violin on stage, then I manipulated loops in real-time. The reaction was excellent. I programmed an application myself with 4 simultaneous looping algorithms. In fact I ended the performance too soon... people enjoyed it and said it was too short, I should of let myself go! All this to say, I don't know who I am writing to and I don't know if this interests you but my application runs on MacIntosh and loops four samples of approx. 10 sec. in any shape or form in real-time. Should I improve this application for wider use or does something like it exists and I am wasting my time... I would like to get some feedback! What do loopers need to loop efficiently. I would then work on my application and make it available. Thanks for your cooperation. Ivan Zavada Composer and programm developer. Masters student at Université de Montréal. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 28 07:46:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA20752; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 07:43:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 07:43:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AEAACAC.322AA791@cloud9.net> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 07:42:36 -0400 From: Mountain Man X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Againinator, again References: <200104280125.VAA03891@hemlock.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <_XlknB.A.-DF.Zyq66@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6557 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey Dolf, Do you have any connections with Pancreatic Enterprises? :) Elby (who always wanted to be a pirate, up until age six) Subject: Re: Againinator plug-in module Warning! Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 11:33:56 -0700 From: Mark Sottilaro To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Attention Loopers! Panaceaic in no way endorses the Snore Eliminator and installing it on your Againinator™ will void the warrantee, when and if the Againinator ships. We can however be sued for punitive damages, but I'm not sure why. Dolf Lungren Panaceaic Customer service. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 28 08:06:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA22139; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 08:04:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 08:04:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [62.104.212.64] From: "Robert Eberwein" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: disrespecting softwares Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 12:02:48 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Apr 2001 12:02:48.0695 (UTC) FILETIME=[24B43070:01C0CFDB] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6558 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'd thought I was going to have to jump in on this one- - - but Goodman said it all. Thanks. === Eh. Ok. I'll indulge in one thing; How about the *reverse pirating*? When software, like Internet Explorer or Real Player, uses every trick in the book [completely unethical, if novel] to maximize their *profit* at user's expense [by knocking out other default program's, for instance]? How many millions are made this way? We all need to think this stuff through [I don't mean that patronizingly. I mean, we're in a paradigm shift]. As I've said before, I'm not sure anyone SHOULD own rights to copy, for instance, woodprints [and certainly not 200 years later]. If a guy wants to carve a log, make 16 prints, thrown the wood away and charge a fortune for the prints- fine. But if someone wants to create something, distribute it universally, do everything they can to make in invaluable, lock the original *woodblock* in a safe rather than destroy it, re-define what own/lease means, re-define what a *promise* is [IS a click a promise? I click on what makes an image appear on my screen]- - - and then tells me, *By the way, I retain ownership and you're a worthless thief if you give this disc to your secretary*, well, I ENJOY beating lawyers out of their claim to Shakespeare's royalties. It's a wacky, irrational, unfair claim. Mixing my metaphors here, I know, but, if that woodblock is in a safe somewhere, my woodprint isn't really worth anything- and who is pirating who? See you in a couple months. Robb ===== MP3's for Robbingham [Robert Eberwein & Robb Bingham]at: www.mp3s.com/robbingham ===== _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 28 08:54:10 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA22537; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 08:51:18 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 08:51:18 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/9.0.2509 Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 08:49:56 -0400 Subject: Re: Concertloop From: Todd Reynolds To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id IAA22481 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6559 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Dear Ivan, I'm a violinistic looper myself. I'd love to take a look at your program. I've been trying to get off my rack and into my laptop for a while now. There are others of us out there. Please feel free to be in touch off list as well if you would like. And thanks for sharing. I've heard much about SAT recently and am very interested in the innovation going on there. Where can I here more about it, and about you? -- Todd Reynolds http://www.toddreynolds.com http://www.ethelcentral.com todd@toddreynolds.com On 4/28/01 4:22 AM, "Ivan Zavada" wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I just did a presentation at the SAT Société des Arts Technologiques(in > French) in Montréal. The reason why I am sending you this e-mail is that > for my presentation I used only looping, nothing else. And you know what? It > worked. My piece was very well appreciated. It was part of an > electroacoustic concert of all the University students of Montreal. It > lasted a week ( 4 Universities over 100 performances). Tonight was the > real-time performance event. > All kinds of stuff. I used a computer to regenerate sound that I recorded on > the violin on stage, then I manipulated loops in real-time. The reaction was > excellent. I programmed an application myself with 4 simultaneous looping > algorithms. In fact I ended the performance too soon... people enjoyed it > and said it was too short, I should of let myself go! > All this to say, I don't know who I am writing to and I don't know if > this interests you but my application runs on MacIntosh and loops four > samples of approx. 10 sec. in any shape or form in real-time. Should I > improve this application for wider use or does something like it exists and > I am wasting my time... I would like to get some feedback! What do loopers > need to loop efficiently. I would then work on my application and make it > available. > > > Thanks for your cooperation. > > > Ivan Zavada > Composer and programm developer. > Masters student at Université de Montréal. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 28 08:55:08 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA22541; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 08:51:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 08:51:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000701c0cfe1$bd89f4a0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: disrespecting softwares Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 13:49:41 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6560 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com "Robert Eberwein" put forth: > ... well, I ENJOY beating > lawyers out of their claim to Shakespeare's royalties. It's a wacky, > irrational, unfair claim. Well, that's something a bit more than a few years old. How about if you were Sam Shepard, and someone thought you were making so much money that it wouldn't make a knock-off production of "Fool for Love"? How does the fact that you've made a lot of money off of anything have an effect on the legality or morality of stealing your work? > Mixing my metaphors here, I know, but, if that woodblock is in a safe > somewhere, my woodprint isn't really worth anything- and who is pirating > who? How about if someone made a copy of that woodblock, and while not taking credit for the woodblock's design, made prints through the use of that copy? Shouldn't the owner have the right to compensation? Shouldn't the owner have the right to do with the woodblock what he or she pleases, whether it's to conceal it in a safe, burn it, or produce t-shirts and dress prints with it? Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! http://www.mp3.com/StephenGoodman * New MP3 Releases! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 28 13:04:48 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA30889; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 13:01:34 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 13:01:34 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000201c0d004$9ec60cc0$d8856fd4@dolly> From: "whiteoakstudios" To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010427151412.00d6dad0@mail.dada.it> <000d01c0cf69$84a9a540$fe666ec3@abu10784> Subject: Re: hi all Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 05:40:27 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Resent-Message-ID: <5En4I.A.UiH.rcv66@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6561 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com The Italian is cool by me - it gives me a chance to practice my rather tenuous grasp of the language. Non c'e una problemma per me. Ciao, Gareth Incidenatlly we seem to have quite a few Italians here - how many are there ? Do you manage any live performances in Italy ? I Was in the Alps the other day and would love to have seen some live looping. > Escuse me for the Italian but he's a Friend... > Ciao Leo! > sono colui al quale hai venduto il jam-man (Massimo) e quindi hai > contribuito alla mia > formazione loopistica! > Come vedi anch'io frequento questo...locale > Bentornato quindi! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 28 14:19:52 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA00968; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 14:16:03 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 14:16:03 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 11:07:14 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: hi all In-reply-to: <000201c0d004$9ec60cc0$d8856fd4@dolly> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010427151412.00d6dad0@mail.dada.it> <000d01c0cf69$84a9a540$fe666ec3@abu10784> <000201c0d004$9ec60cc0$d8856fd4@dolly> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6562 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 5:40 AM +0100 4/28/01, whiteoakstudios wrote: >Incidenatlly we seem to have quite a few Italians here Could it be the influence of Giambattista Vico? -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD zvonar@zvonar.com (818) 788-2202 voice zvonar@LCSaudio.com (818) 788-2203 fax zvonar@well.com http://www.zvonar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 28 16:50:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA05713; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 16:38:28 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 16:38:28 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <004401c0d022$da49a9a0$8583abd4@LucaFormentini> From: "luca" To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010427151412.00d6dad0@mail.dada.it> <000d01c0cf69$84a9a540$fe666ec3@abu10784> <000201c0d004$9ec60cc0$d8856fd4@dolly> Subject: R: hi all - Italy's situation Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 21:41:46 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <3QMFtD.A.kXB.4my66@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6563 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com > > Incidenatlly we seem to have quite a few Italians here - how many are there > ? I hope my article on the most important italian music magazine has helped this. > Do you manage any live performances in Italy ? I Was in the Alps the other > day and would love to have seen some live looping. Hi there, I can say we in Italy have to invent chances to make loopers perform. personally, I have played in several art shows and in specific festivals, but they are anyway just a small number if compared to other scenes. I have had the chance to play in a gtr festival in Milan in March and I am organizing a small festival on Garda lake made up to make people get awareness of different musical languages than the ones that are mainly represented in this country. It will be held during the first days of July on Garda Lake. One of the people I am more proud to have this year is Hans Reichel, who isn't properly a looper guitarist, but he's one of the most creative artist on gtr that I know. I will host a looper in this year's festival (last year we were in three). it would be nice to see someone of you there. all my best, Luca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 28 18:48:37 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA09887; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:46:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 18:46:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [209.163.54.15] From: "Denis Aldrich" To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RC-20 Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 17:44:02 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Apr 2001 22:44:02.0924 (UTC) FILETIME=[B921A2C0:01C0D034] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6564 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Anybody able to give a review on this Boss gear yet? Denis _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Apr 28 20:00:30 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA13083; Sat, 28 Apr 2001 19:58:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 19:58:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: Hedewa7@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 19:57:38 EDT Subject: Re: hi all To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Mac sub 40 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6565 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >just two lines to say hi to Kim and all the Loopers-Delight old timers. hey, leo: welcome back. best, dt / s-c From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 29 01:21:02 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA23565; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 01:18:48 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 01:18:48 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010429051710.9921.qmail@web10005.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 22:17:10 -0700 (PDT) From: John Tidwell Subject: More info on the Line6 FM4 Filter Modeler To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: <3-PDyC.A.WvF.XP666@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6566 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com at....... http://www.line6.com/Main/The_Buzz/Hot_News/FM4Rollout/FM4main.htm ===== John Tidwell __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 29 12:30:09 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA10106; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 12:27:54 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 12:27:54 -0400 Old-Return-Path: User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2022 Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 09:27:58 -0700 Subject: Re: More info on the Line6 FM4 Filter Modeler From: kevin To: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20010429051710.9921.qmail@web10005.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <6P4co.A.sdC.iDE76@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6567 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thanks John for the link to the line 6 fm4, but we have to say...what a disappointment! Best, Roctologists on 4/28/01 10:17 PM, John Tidwell at wedgehed@yahoo.com wrote: > at....... > > http://www.line6.com/Main/The_Buzz/Hot_News/FM4Rollout/FM4main.htm > > ===== > John Tidwell > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 29 12:43:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA10504; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 12:42:01 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 12:42:01 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: swirly@www.swirly.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 12:41:30 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tom Ritchford Subject: Re: More info on the Line6 FM4 Filter Modeler Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6568 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >Thanks John for the link to the line 6 fm4, but we have to say...what a >disappointment! > >Best, >Roctologists > >on 4/28/01 10:17 PM, John Tidwell at wedgehed@yahoo.com wrote: > > > at....... > > > > http://www.line6.com/Main/The_Buzz/Hot_News/FM4Rollout/FM4main.htm quite so... I checked out nearly all the mp3s there and not one of them really floated my boat. peculiar, eh? they did SUCH a good job with the DL4, I love that unit's spacey effects so much I almost never loop with it! /t ...electronic a cappella madness ......... ...extreme internet radio ... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Apr 29 14:44:34 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA14245; Sun, 29 Apr 2001 14:41:50 -0400 Resent-Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 14:41:50 -0400 Old-Return-Path: From: stanitarium@earthlink.net Message-Id: <200104291841.LAA29840@hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 11:43:01 -0700 Subject: Re: More info on the Line6 FM4 Filter Modeler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6569 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com i concur...and i keep hopin' stanner ---------- >From: kevin >To: >Subject: Re: More info on the Line6 FM4 Filter Modeler >Date: Sun, Apr 29, 2001, 9:27 AM > >Thanks John for the link to the line 6 fm4, but we have to say...what a >disappointment! > >Best, >Roctologists > >on 4/28/01 10:17 PM, John Tidwell at wedgehed@yahoo.com wrote: > >> at....... >> >> http://www.line6.com/Main/The_Buzz/Hot_News/FM4Rollout/FM4main.htm >> >> ===== >> John Tidwell >> >> >> >> >> __________________________________________________ >> Do You Yahoo!? >> Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices >> http://auctions.yahoo.com/ >> > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 06:23:44 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA12181; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 06:21:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 06:21:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AED5816.ABADD745@vtx.ch> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:18:30 +0000 From: Claude Voit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Concertloop References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6570 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Ivan Zavada wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I just did a presentation at the SAT Société des Arts Technologiques(in > French) in Montréal. The reason why I am sending you this e-mail is that > for my presentation I used only looping, nothing else. And you know what? It > worked. My piece was very well appreciated. It was part of an > electroacoustic concert of all the University students of Montreal. It > lasted a week ( 4 Universities over 100 performances). Tonight was the > real-time performance event. > All kinds of stuff. I used a computer to regenerate sound that I recorded on > the violin on stage, then I manipulated loops in real-time. The reaction was > excellent. I programmed an application myself with 4 simultaneous looping > algorithms. In fact I ended the performance too soon... people enjoyed it > and said it was too short, I should of let myself go! > All this to say, I don't know who I am writing to and I don't know if > this interests you but my application runs on MacIntosh and loops four > samples of approx. 10 sec. in any shape or form in real-time. Should I > improve this application for wider use or does something like it exists and > I am wasting my time... I would like to get some feedback! What do loopers > need to loop efficiently. I would then work on my application and make it > available. > > Thanks for your cooperation. > Ivan Please stay around you've reached the center of the universe of realtime looping you need us, we need you :-) welcome you probably will have a lot of interest in the huge content of loopers-delight.com also take some times in archives welcome claude From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 07:02:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA12611; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 06:58:36 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 06:58:36 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <000e01c0d164$48947ec0$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au> From: "Jeff van Dyck" To: References: Subject: Re: Concertloop Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 20:57:00 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: <19h7v.A.5ED.CVU76@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6571 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Ivan, I'm very interested in your application. I have yet to find a software looper that actually works the way I think it should. I was able to make Logic Audio work as a great looper though, in sync with midi and everything, but I'd rather have a simple dedicated app do the same thing. Please let us know when you'll have a demo that we can try out or beta test. Cheers, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ivan Zavada" To: Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2001 6:22 PM Subject: Concertloop > Hello everyone, > > I just did a presentation at the SAT Société des Arts Technologiques(in > French) in Montréal. The reason why I am sending you this e-mail is that > for my presentation I used only looping, nothing else. And you know what? It > worked. My piece was very well appreciated. It was part of an > electroacoustic concert of all the University students of Montreal. It > lasted a week ( 4 Universities over 100 performances). Tonight was the > real-time performance event. > All kinds of stuff. I used a computer to regenerate sound that I recorded on > the violin on stage, then I manipulated loops in real-time. The reaction was > excellent. I programmed an application myself with 4 simultaneous looping > algorithms. In fact I ended the performance too soon... people enjoyed it > and said it was too short, I should of let myself go! > All this to say, I don't know who I am writing to and I don't know if > this interests you but my application runs on MacIntosh and loops four > samples of approx. 10 sec. in any shape or form in real-time. Should I > improve this application for wider use or does something like it exists and > I am wasting my time... I would like to get some feedback! What do loopers > need to loop efficiently. I would then work on my application and make it > available. > > > Thanks for your cooperation. > > > Ivan Zavada > Composer and programm developer. > Masters student at Université de Montréal. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 07:36:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA14112; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 07:35:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 07:35:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005c01c0d16a$42af57e0$338ae3a5@looppool> From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: References: <200104301023.GAA12271@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: Line 6 Filter modeler Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 04:39:47 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6572 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I'm with everybody..............perhaps we should forward all of these e-mails to them. They are a cool company and I, frankly, was really looking forward to this pedal. What should it have in it? What's specifically wrong with it? Let's let this cool company know what we think. Here's to working with the manufacturers so that we can get the cool shit that we covet!!! yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 10:29:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA19733; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:26:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:26:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AED2190.68A70BE3@pseudobuddha.com> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:25:53 +0100 From: Bobdog Reply-To: bobdog@pseudobuddha.com Organization: Pseudo Buddha X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Semi-OT Question: Mac Zif Upgrade - G3 vs. G4? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6573 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com this is the machine i do my loopy/mixy work on, so this question should be ok… i will be purchasing a zif upgrade for my mac g3 beige 266 desktop this week, digital performer being the main application i run on this machine. questions - will i see a major difference in audio performance by using a sonnet g4/500 versus using an ibm or sonnet g3/500? versus a metabox g4/400? reason i ask is that the difference in price will buy 512m of yummy ram... thanks! bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 10:45:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA20396; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:44:06 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:44:06 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <022601c0d183$d9a7fd00$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> From: "Dennis Leas" To: References: Subject: Re: Concertloop Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:42:58 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6574 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hi Ivan! Congratulation on your performance! I'm always interested in what folks are doing. Though I'm Mac-less I'd like to hear about your application and I think several others on the list would too. I know lots of folks here are Macified and would probably be interested in your app. Dennis Leas ------------------- dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 10:46:49 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA20465; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:45:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:45:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 07:41:14 -0700 From: Catharsis Subject: Filters and such... In-reply-to: <200104301023.GAA12272@hemlock.violacea.com> X-Sender: catharsis@tyranny.egregious.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010430070940.02da36e0@tyranny.egregious.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6575 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 06:23 4/30/01 -0400, you wrote: >> > http://www.line6.com/Main/The_Buzz/Hot_News/FM4Rollout/FM4main.htm >quite so... I checked out nearly all the mp3s there and not >one of them really floated my boat. peculiar, eh? they >did SUCH a good job with the DL4, I love that unit's spacey >effects so much I almost never loop with it! I am still stuck on a Mutator (http://www.cerbernet.co.uk/mutronics/) (stereo) That and I am sure everyone knows about the Filterbank2... www.sherman.be (mono) I was accepted to study at CCMix (http://www.upic.asso.fr/) this July. Going to be broke, but it will be worth it (what is new?). Any loopers from the Paris area want to meet up? Curtis Roads is giving his first public presentation on his new book on microsound (CREATE web site said this thing would be out in '99!), Carla Scaletti will be presenting on using Kyma live, plus other "crazies" of the computer music world. Any thoughts now on the TC Powercore? It will rock seriously now as they have opened it to VST/MAS plugins. I wonder if Kyma will keep its edge considering all the cool VST plugin/instruments out there. (Of course it will in some regard, but not others; mainly cost and the fact that they have committed to a certain software/hardware architecture). I also had the opportunity to attend (because it was free) what was billed as the first microtonal conference: http://www2.hmc.edu/~alves/microfest2001.html It was neat as it gave me a glimpse into music history and a lot of ideas and inspiration to try new things. Between the microsound, microtonal, and looping worlds there is an unlimited terrain of possibilities. If anyone can point me to musical areas farther out there I will have to assume alien intelligence is involved... ;) Here is my first electronic track created last June (only song I did using Rebirth; w/ factory presets nonetheless...): http://www.egregious.net/~catharsis/tracks/tones.mp3 I have learned so much since then in terms of recording, etc. It is not looping material, but I'll get there soon. I am stoked to have learned about this opportunity (especially since the focus is turntables): http://www.nweamo.org/nweamoform.html I have a new live DJ mix up at www.egregious.net/comps/ -- Live March 7th. I like it. Thanks for the warm welcome when I posted my intro a while back! Loop on, --Catharsis Egregious "Spiritual renewal through music for those outside the heard." http://www.egregious.net/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 10:46:59 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA20467; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:45:35 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:45:35 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 07:44:45 -0700 From: Catharsis Subject: Eh.. Want to mention... X-Sender: catharsis@tyranny.egregious.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010430074319.02dbda10@tyranny.egregious.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6576 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Just want to mention with Tones that I yanked a Bochem Welt bass line. Don't want to be accused of cheating this early... ;) Never meant it to turn out to be a full track. ;) --Catharsis Egregious "Spiritual renewal through music for those outside the heard." http://www.egregious.net/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 10:51:23 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA20856; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:49:45 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:49:45 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:49:07 -0500 From: "Ted Geerdink" To: Subject: Re: Semi-OT Question: Mac Zif Upgrade - G3 vs. G4? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id KAA20717 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6577 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yo Bobdog and Loopers, Did you get that nickname from the Swedish band "bob hund"? Just curious. What a great band. Also, I think I'm going to be the only one on the list who has the Yamaha DDS-20M 2 second delay/sampler. No one has mentioned that they even own one, and I can't find anything online about them. Nothing. Zero. Zip! A rare bird. It should be arriving this week. Can't wait to compare it to the Digitech PDS-2000. And when I called Yamaha they said they'd send me an owner's manual. Ted >>> Bobdog 04/30/01 03:25AM >>> this is the machine i do my loopy/mixy work on, so this question should be ok* i will be purchasing a zif upgrade for my mac g3 beige 266 desktop this week, digital performer being the main application i run on this machine. questions - will i see a major difference in audio performance by using a sonnet g4/500 versus using an ibm or sonnet g3/500? versus a metabox g4/400? reason i ask is that the difference in price will buy 512m of yummy ram... thanks! bobdog From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 10:58:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA21412; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:55:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:55:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: From: Todd Quincy To: "Loopers (E-mail)" Subject: OT KUSTOM PA SYSTEM Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:52:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0D185.3F5D5270" Resent-Message-ID: <2-munD.A.POF.FzX76@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6578 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0D185.3F5D5270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Fellow Loopers! I'm doing so market research on portable pa systems. Assuming you have one or would be interested in using a PA system to perform with a looper, what features would you look for in a pa system. Please send your responses off list to me at tquincy@sayhhi.co Todd Quincy Kustom, BC Rich 513 451 5000 (330) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0D185.3F5D5270 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OT KUSTOM PA SYSTEM

Fellow Loopers!

I'm doing so market research on = portable pa systems. Assuming you have one or would be interested in = using a PA system to perform with a looper, what features would you = look for in a pa system. 

Please send your responses off list to = me at tquincy@sayhhi.co

Todd Quincy
Kustom, BC Rich
513 451 5000 (330)

------_=_NextPart_001_01C0D185.3F5D5270-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 12:00:32 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA23715; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:58:05 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:58:05 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <005c01c0d16a$42af57e0$338ae3a5@looppool> References: <200104301023.GAA12271@hemlock.violacea.com> <005c01c0d16a$42af57e0$338ae3a5@looppool> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 08:52:51 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: Line 6 Filter modeler Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6579 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com but wait until you can go to the store and run YOUR sound and playing style through the darn thing. The DL4 rocks, and i went back to get the MM4 but found it very milquetoast... however, the Distortion Modeler smokes too. I'm just not using distortion enough anymore to justify it. If i was, though...it's very sweet. Go try it yourself when it hits the shelf and then we can all bitch. Also, although Line6 seems VERY interested in an upgrade path for their Pod and Flextone line of products, the modeler pedals and their AX2 amp don't seem to garner the same attention. I wouldn't expect that L6 is going to alter the stompboxes much from a few bad comments from us... who knows, though? rich >I'm with everybody..............perhaps we should forward all of these >e-mails to them. They are a cool company and >I, frankly, was really looking forward to this pedal. What should it >have in it? What's specifically wrong with it? >Let's let this cool company know what we think. Here's to working with >the manufacturers so that we can get the cool >shit that we covet!!! > >yours, Rick Walker From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 12:24:54 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25460; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:23:25 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:23:25 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <022601c0d183$d9a7fd00$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> References: <022601c0d183$d9a7fd00$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:18:19 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: Concertloop Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6580 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Yes, definitely interested. I've been starting to steal away my wife's powerbook G3 occasionally and having a blast. Thanks to the list for pointers to ProTools FREE. Zowee...what people give away these days amazes me. I've been using the pitch shifting to retune some tones up to proper pitch for a friend of mine and it's working great. Anybody using this version of the program on a mac laptop? Can someone maybe give me a hand getting the midi sync to work and lock onto MTC? if so, please contact me off list. Does Digidesign offer any technical assistance on a Free product? rich >Hi Ivan! > >Congratulation on your performance! > >I'm always interested in what folks are doing. Though I'm Mac-less I'd like >to hear about your application and I think several others on the list would >too. I know lots of folks here are Macified and would probably be >interested in your app. > >Dennis Leas >------------------- >dennis@mdbs.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 12:25:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25498; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:24:20 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:24:20 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [207.217.34.34] From: "Professor Vast" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Filters Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:23:15 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Apr 2001 16:23:15.0470 (UTC) FILETIME=[DBD052E0:01C0D191] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6581 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com anyone use the Electrix Filter Queen and/or Factory? I have a filter queen and i love her. db _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 12:32:01 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA25991; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:30:08 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:30:08 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <002f01c0d192$63903740$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: Subject: Re: OT KUSTOM PA SYSTEM Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:27:01 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01C0D19A.C4173D40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6582 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C0D19A.C4173D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OT KUSTOM PA SYSTEMSounds like info we could use here! :) Not having a = PA system myself (unless you include a pair of 20-watt 1987 yamaha = self-amplified speakers) I can appreciate the need. Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net/Gallery_Front.html - Cartoons & Illustrations http://www.earthlight.net/Studios * The free Loop of the Week! http://www.mp3.com/StephenGoodman * New MP3 Releases! ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Todd Quincy=20 To: Loopers (E-mail)=20 Sent: 30 April 2001 15:52 PM Subject: OT KUSTOM PA SYSTEM Fellow Loopers!=20 I'm doing so market research on portable pa systems. Assuming you have = one or would be interested in using a PA system to perform with a = looper, what features would you look for in a pa system. =20 Please send your responses off list to me at tquincy@sayhhi.co=20 Todd Quincy=20 Kustom, BC Rich=20 513 451 5000 (330)=20 ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C0D19A.C4173D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OT KUSTOM PA SYSTEM
Sounds like info we could use here! :)  = Not having=20 a PA system myself (unless you include a pair of 20-watt 1987 yamaha=20 self-amplified speakers) I can appreciate the need.
 
Stephen Goodman
http://www.earthlig= ht.net/Gallery_Front.html=20 - Cartoons & Illustrations
http://www.earthlight.net/Stud= ios *=20 The free Loop of the Week!
http://www.mp3.com/StephenGood= man *=20 New MP3 Releases!
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Todd = Quincy
Sent: 30 April 2001 15:52 PM
Subject: OT KUSTOM PA SYSTEM

Fellow Loopers!

I'm doing so market research on portable = pa systems.=20 Assuming you have one or would be interested in using a PA system to = perform=20 with a looper, what features would you look for in a pa system. =20

Please send your responses off list to me = at tquincy@sayhhi.co

Todd Quincy
Kustom, BC Rich
513 451 = 5000=20 (330)

------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C0D19A.C4173D40-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 12:41:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA26389; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:39:47 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:39:47 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <001c01c0d192$f5e48b00$64b4a8c0@mindspring.com> From: "phalen orion" To: Subject: Celebrate Cinco de Mayo: Fun Group Noise at AAA Electra 99 Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:31:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6583 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com What better way to celebrate Cinco de Mayo (aka the 5th of May) than by getting together with a bunch of people and making a cacophonous noise?!? The Little Engines - 100% improvisational, audience-is-performer sound-art performance, May 5, 2001 at AAA Electra 99 art gallery, museum and performance space. BRING YOUR OWN INSTRUMENT: things like toys, simple instruments, found-object percussion... the wilder the better... try to think outside the box :) There will be a mixer available for electronic instruments to plug into, but please only bring non-standard instruments and/or just processors. You must bring your own cables/mics if you will require them. Information on The Little Engines: http://www.littleengines.org/ Information & directions to AAA Electra 99: http://www.aaaelectra99.com/ Bring friends, bring lovers, bring enemies, but bring something that makes noise: $5 non-members, $2 members. Best, phalen180 P.S.: Please forward this email to local email lists you participate in and to anyone else you know who might be interested. Thanks! From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 12:45:06 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA26576; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:43:21 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:43:21 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AED95CB.4E99F5C7@altruistmusic.com> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:41:47 -0700 From: Andre LaFosse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73C-CCK-MCD {C-UDP; EBM-APPLE} (Macintosh; U; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Pro Tools Free (and Logic) References: <022601c0d183$d9a7fd00$1fab82cc@mdbs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6584 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com rich wrote: > Thanks to the list for pointers to ProTools FREE. Zowee...what > people give away these days amazes me. Does > Digidesign offer any technical assistance on a Free product? There are some message boards at digidesign.com, including one for PTFree, that the company contributes to/answers questions through. I like the program a lot, although i find myself starting to lean more towards Logic (after the inevitable, introductory "What the hell is going on?!?!" Logic introductory learning curve). I think that PT Free is intended largely as a way of spurring interest in the Digi 001 card/software bundle... (that's my guess, anyway). --Andre LaFosse http://www.altrustmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 12:50:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA26832; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:49:31 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:49:31 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <003901c0d195$0b2cedc0$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: "jim palmer" Cc: References: <000701c0cfe1$bd89f4a0$0201a8c0@stephen> <012501c0d18d$39702a60$080210ac@jpalmer> Subject: Re: disrespecting softwares Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:45:52 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6585 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com An email message - unless I included it as part of a work copyrighted by me - is not even close to a published play, or for that matter a woodblock print. If, for instance, I had written the screenplay for "You've Got Mail", as abysmal as it was, before AOL started using the phrase in their software, I would indeed have an infringement case against them. It's simple precedence. In 1986 a reggae musician sued Mick Jagger over a song I can't remember the name of - not one of his bigger hits as a solo artist - claiming that Mick had stolen the song's melody line. Mick spent quite a bit of time in the Bahamas/Jamaica at one point, and the artist claimed that he'd heard the song on the radio, and ended up using the melody line as the base for one of his own songs. Not to "dis" Mick, but of course more recently veggie artist k.d.lang sued the Stones for stealing the refrain for "Constant Craving" - and the Stones had to admit that while it was accidental, it was indeed a lifting of the refrain that had apparently taken place. Does anyone remember the case with the reggae artist? Thankfully for many office workers, Charles Schulz didn't take too much irritation at the myriads of times that people made poor drawings of Snoopy or Charlie Brown for the purposes of office humor. Perhaps it might have been different if he was on the way up instead of so well-established - but such was not the case. The office copies neither helped nor hurt Chuck's career, or that of "Peanuts". Alas, this is a unique situation, and not at all common to those otherwise pursued by lawyers in their quest for lengthy litigation and resultant fees. If I chose to make a t-shirt with the word "splunge" on it, and made lots and lots of money selling them all over the world, I'd be an idiot if I didn't expect to get sued by both the BBC and the Monty Python troupe's remaining members. If I made a film called "Can't Touch This" and didn't expect trouble from both Jobete Music, Rick James, AND M.C. Hammer, I'd be a total fool. If I had an email exchange with someone heated enough to inspire someone to write a screenplay or novel about it, say on this list, and that screenplay writer didn't get the permission of me, Kim, and my respondee to do so, we'd have the right to sue. Yep. Intellectual property issues aren't a really complex deal to those who either own or steal the concepts-in-question, just the people trying to either litigate, explain, or understand them. Alas, one must still hire lawyers unless you encounter someone with enough integrity to admit what they've done, and settle with you themselves. Ah, Civilization! Stephen Goodman http://www.earthlight.net "jim palmer" put forth: > i don't want to weight in on either side of this argument as such, > but what if someone copies your email message and sends it to someone? > what if they print it on a t-shirt? > have they stolen your intellectual property? > have i stolen your message copied below? > > this is not such a simple issue as physical property rights. > even as simple as that is, many people in the world believe property is theft. > how can you own the land, the air, or the sea? > > mailman believed that once a music piece had been performed, > the sound was in the air and therefore became public domain. > i don't know how that idea applies to software, but this is a music list after all... From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 12:54:20 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA26991; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:52:44 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:52:44 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005101c0d195$66cfca80$0201a8c0@stephen> Reply-To: "Stephen P. Goodman" From: "Stephen P. Goodman" To: References: <001c01c0d192$f5e48b00$64b4a8c0@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Celebrate Cinco de Mayo: Fun Group Noise at AAA Electra 99 Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:48:21 +0100 Organization: EarthLight Productions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6586 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Hey there from the UK, You know, I regret having left the LA area just when the Ambient/Looping scene took off enough. :| Good use of the "Subgenius" image by the way. :) S. ----- Original Message ----- From: "phalen orion" To: Sent: 30 April 2001 17:31 PM Subject: Celebrate Cinco de Mayo: Fun Group Noise at AAA Electra 99 > What better way to celebrate Cinco de Mayo (aka the 5th of May) than by > getting together with a bunch of people and making a cacophonous noise?!? > > The Little Engines - 100% improvisational, audience-is-performer sound-art > performance, May 5, 2001 at AAA Electra 99 art gallery, museum and > performance space. BRING YOUR OWN INSTRUMENT: things like toys, simple > instruments, found-object percussion... the wilder the better... try to > think outside the box :) > > There will be a mixer available for electronic instruments to plug into, but > please only bring non-standard instruments and/or just processors. You must > bring your own cables/mics if you will require them. > > Information on The Little Engines: http://www.littleengines.org/ > Information & directions to AAA Electra 99: http://www.aaaelectra99.com/ > > Bring friends, bring lovers, bring enemies, but bring something that makes > noise: $5 non-members, $2 members. > > Best, > phalen180 > > P.S.: Please forward this email to local email lists you participate in and > to anyone else you know who might be interested. Thanks! > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 12:56:42 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA27116; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:55:00 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:55:00 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 5.5.5.1 Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:53:40 -0500 From: "Ted Geerdink" To: Subject: Re: Celebrate Cinco de Mayo: Fun Group Noise at AAA Electra 99 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hemlock.violacea.com id MAA27014 Resent-Message-ID: <5MflhC.A.VmG.liZ76@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6587 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com I wish something like this was happening in Chicago!!! Will the performance be recorded? Please say yes. It would be fun to hear what comes out of this. Ted >The Little Engines - 100% improvisational, audience-is-performer sound-art >performance, May 5, 2001 at AAA Electra 99 art gallery, museum and >performance space. BRING YOUR OWN INSTRUMENT: things like From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 13:02:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA28393; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:01:02 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:01:02 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:16:40 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Filters and such... In-reply-to: <5.0.2.1.0.20010430070940.02da36e0@tyranny.egregious.net> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010430070940.02da36e0@tyranny.egregious.net> Resent-Message-ID: <9xtUz.A.86G.goZ76@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6588 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 7:41 AM -0700 4/30/01, Catharsis wrote: >I also had the opportunity to attend (because it was free) what was >billed as the first microtonal conference: >http://www2.hmc.edu/~alves/microfest2001.html Sorry I had to miss this (I was out of the country). Did you talk to Lou Harrison? How is he doing? This may indeed be the "first microtonal conference," though there was an annual instrument builders' conference at UCSD in the late '70s. Many microtonalists participated, including a number of Harry Patch colleagues and disciples. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 13:02:36 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA28389; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:00:56 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:00:56 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:22:44 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: Line 6 Filter modeler In-reply-to: <005c01c0d16a$42af57e0$338ae3a5@looppool> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <200104301023.GAA12271@hemlock.violacea.com> <005c01c0d16a$42af57e0$338ae3a5@looppool> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6589 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 4:39 AM -0700 4/30/01, Rick Walker (loop.pool) wrote: >perhaps we should forward all of these e-mails to [Line6]. They >are a cool company and I, frankly, was really looking forward to >this pedal. Hard to say how Line6 responds to customer feedback. I had some correspondence with Steve DeFuria a while back, specifically about their stomp boxes. I commented on the limited number of presets supported and I made some suggestions about the design of a pro version of same (along the lines of the POD Pro). His response was terse and noncommittal: "I can't comment on what we may (or may not) have under development, of course, but it's always good to get feedback about our products. We value your comments and suggestions." -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 13:18:41 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA29879; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:17:10 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:17:10 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010430171625.73522.qmail@graffiti.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "L. E." To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: cbm@well.com Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 01:16:25 +0800 Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ???? Resent-Message-ID: <1EzDgD.A.rSH.y3Z76@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6590 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com yea yea yea you guys made your point im not activly seeking a trade or any piracy whispers )) i already found what i needed no thanks to you (( so dont wory about it... i fear you all are having more trouble justifying your own means and now are mad that you payed for it and i didnt... relax take that deep breathe its just an email list so it seems everyone here can answer why it is wrong to pirate software but not one can answer a simple software related question? how do i adjust the speed of a loop on cool edit pro??? well what a list this turned out to be :o) MrNyceGuy "comes over to my place" "gonna get you high, gonna make you fly!" -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 13:29:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA31275; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:27:46 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:27:46 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010430171625.73522.qmail@graffiti.net> References: <20010430171625.73522.qmail@graffiti.net> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:22:49 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ???? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6591 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com yea yea yea, we should go out of our way to help you with your question after you dis people for paying for software...hmmm... there was a post that someone put up stating that their current upgraded version of Cool Edit would do just what you're asking for. check the archives from last week. also, you were also led to check out ProTools free...(that's how i got the link) and it will do what you ask for as well...Pitch shifting with time compensation. Try it out. for free even. best, rich >yea yea yea >you guys made your point im not activly seeking a trade or any piracy >whispers )) i already found what i needed no thanks to you (( >so dont wory about it... i fear you all are having more trouble >justifying your own means and now are mad that you payed for it and >i didnt... > >relax take that deep breathe its just an email list > >so it seems everyone here can answer why it is wrong to pirate software >but not one can answer a simple software related question? how do i >adjust the speed of a loop on cool edit pro??? > >well what a list this turned out to be :o) > > > > > >MrNyceGuy > >"comes over to my place" >"gonna get you high, gonna make you fly!" >-- >_______________________________________________ >Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net >Powered by Outblaze From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 13:41:05 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA31734; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:39:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:39:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010430173849.78988.qmail@graffiti.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "L. E." To: "Alf" <2loose@cv.quik.com.au>, Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 01:38:49 +0800 Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ???? Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6592 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com so your saying that the cracked version cant change the speed? why would that be? if it is then the designers of cool edit pre are genious's but i doubt that they designed that as a crack flaw.... -----Original Message----- From: "Alf" <2loose@cv.quik.com.au> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 13:36:17 +1000 To: Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ???? > I'd just like to say this > > I have the full version of cooledit pro with updates that I BOUGHT and I am > happy to say that you can't do what you want to do because you have a > pirated version hehehe unlike me I can. > > Thankyou and good night > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Muir" > To: > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 10:53 AM > Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ???? > > > > At 7:05 AM +0800 4/27/01, L. E. wrote: > > >about the cracks and pirate issue.... I feel that without these apps > > >i would have no chance to complete projects that require these > > >expensive tools. > > > > And what is your point here? That your need to "complete projects" > > justifies your theft of another persons creative output? Weak. > > > > > > >While im sure there are some app developers on this list, im also > > >sure the corporations make enough money with out the sale they would > > >have never had. > > > > Most musical software companies are relatively small, founded by > > people who were passionate about doing the thing their software was > > designed to do. > > > > At the _very_ least, your attitude disrespects these people who are > > trying to make a living creating the programs that you use. > > > > Music software is not going to make anyone very rich. > > > > > > >piracy i believe requires me to make money using this product, or to > > >make copies and sell them. > > > > Are you arguing for some sort of "fair use" interpretation of the > > copyright law? If I read what you wrote correctly, your position is > > that it's not piracy unless you make money with, or sell copies of, > > the software in question. Get real. > > > > And then, in another message you write: > > >Anyone have any full/cracked versions of other fun music softwares? > > >im down to do a trade with my cool edit pro (worth i belive about > > >350$) > > > > Here you are trying to use one piece of stolen software as something > > to barter for more of the same. You even acknowledge the value of the > > software you are trying to trade. Even by your own definition, > > haven't you entered the realm of piracy with this offer of trade? > > > > > > >What im really trying to do is setup a semi working studio that i > > >can make tracks with a lil less pain then its causing me now. > > > > > >i hope someone can give me some productive answers!!!!! > > > > Get a job. > > > > > > > > -- > > __________________________________________________________________ > > Christopher Bryan Muir | "I had another dream the other day > > "Hurt Symphonic Barrier" | about music critics. They were > > http://www.xfade.com/ | small and rodent-like with > > cbm@well.com | padlocked ears." - Igor Stravinsky > > > > > > -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 13:45:04 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA32341; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:43:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:43:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:58:32 -0700 From: Richard Zvonar Subject: Re: disrespecting softwares In-reply-to: <003901c0d195$0b2cedc0$0201a8c0@stephen> X-Sender: zvonar@postoffice.pacbell.net To: "Stephen P. Goodman" , jim palmer Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" References: <000701c0cfe1$bd89f4a0$0201a8c0@stephen> <012501c0d18d$39702a60$080210ac@jpalmer> <003901c0d195$0b2cedc0$0201a8c0@stephen> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6593 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 5:45 PM +0100 4/30/01, Stephen P. Goodman wrote: >If I made a film called "Can't Touch This" and didn't expect trouble >from both Jobete Music, Rick James, AND M.C. Hammer, I'd be a total >fool. I thought that titles weren't covered by copyright law. -- ______________________________________________________________ Richard Zvonar, PhD (818) 788-2202 http://www.zvonar.com http://RZCybernetics.com http://www.cybmotion.com/aliaszone http://www.live365.com/cgi-bin/directory.cgi?autostart=rz From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 13:51:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA32525; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:49:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 13:49:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: nv-rich@pop3.argotech.net Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010430173849.78988.qmail@graffiti.net> References: <20010430173849.78988.qmail@graffiti.net> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:44:45 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: rich Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ???? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6594 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >so your saying that the cracked version cant change the speed? >why would that be? if it is then the designers of cool edit pre are >genious's but i doubt that they designed that as a crack flaw.... > so you're saying that we should GUESS at this one, or take the time to figure it out for you? who fricking cares? maybe it's the UPGRADE that can do it. go upgrade and get it done...now your cracked software doesn't seem so bitchen. you were welcomed to the list, but why pester intelligent people with crap like this? > >> I'd just like to say this >> >> I have the full version of cooledit pro with updates that I BOUGHT and I am >> happy to say that you can't do what you want to do because you have a > > pirated version hehehe unlike me I can. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 14:04:55 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA01487; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:03:29 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:03:29 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010430105749.02290540@mail.redmoon-music.com> X-Sender: redmoon@mail.redmoon-music.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:02:04 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mark Pulver Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ???? In-Reply-To: References: <20010430173849.78988.qmail@graffiti.net> <20010430173849.78988.qmail@graffiti.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6595 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com rich (10:44 AM 04/30/01) wrote: >>so your saying that the cracked version cant change the speed? >>why would that be? if it is then the designers of cool edit pre >>are genious's but i doubt that they designed that as a crack flaw.... I wanted to jump in here and point out that a well placed email into Syntrillium brought me a couple of very interesting replies. It seems that, even though that this guy is using one of the free email services (graffiti.net), his name and address are pretty available to copyright control folks. Mark From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 14:28:22 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02054; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:25:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:25:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AEDAE97.6F70E088@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:44:45 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Celebrate Cinco de Mayo: Fun Group Noise at AAA Electra 99 References: <001c01c0d192$f5e48b00$64b4a8c0@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <2rV-zC.A.7f.z3a76@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6596 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com phalen orion wrote: > What better way to celebrate Cinco de Mayo (aka the 5th of May) than by > getting together with a bunch of people and making a cacophonous noise?!? > > The Little Engines - 100% improvisational, audience-is-performer sound-art > performance, May 5, 2001 at AAA Electra 99 art gallery, museum and > performance space. BRING YOUR OWN INSTRUMENT: things like toys, simple > instruments, found-object percussion... the wilder the better... try to > think outside the box :) > > There will be a mixer available for electronic instruments to plug into, but > please only bring non-standard instruments and/or just processors. You must > bring your own cables/mics if you will require them. > > Information on The Little Engines: http://www.littleengines.org/ > Information & directions to AAA Electra 99: http://www.aaaelectra99.com/ > > Bring friends, bring lovers, bring enemies, but bring something that makes > noise: $5 non-members, $2 members. > > Best, > phalen180 > > P.S.: Please forward this email to local email lists you participate in and > to anyone else you know who might be interested. Thanks! er, where exactly in the universe is this? :-) lance g. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 14:48:19 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA02510; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:46:40 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:46:40 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <3AEDB392.B62A63BA@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:06:05 -0700 From: lance glover Reply-To: baumhaus@earthlink.net Organization: treehouse X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Celebrate Cinco de Mayo: Fun Group Noise at AAA Electra 99 References: <001c01c0d192$f5e48b00$64b4a8c0@mindspring.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6597 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com phalen orion wrote: > What better way to celebrate Cinco de Mayo (aka the 5th of May) than by > getting together with a bunch of people and making a cacophonous noise?!? > > The Little Engines - 100% improvisational, audience-is-performer sound-art > performance, May 5, 2001 at AAA Electra 99 art gallery, museum and > performance space. BRING YOUR OWN INSTRUMENT: things like toys, simple > instruments, found-object percussion... the wilder the better... try to > think outside the box :) > > There will be a mixer available for electronic instruments to plug into, but > please only bring non-standard instruments and/or just processors. You must > bring your own cables/mics if you will require them. > > Information on The Little Engines: http://www.littleengines.org/ > Information & directions to AAA Electra 99: http://www.aaaelectra99.com/ > > Bring friends, bring lovers, bring enemies, but bring something that makes > noise: $5 non-members, $2 members. > > Best, > phalen180 > > P.S.: Please forward this email to local email lists you participate in and > to anyone else you know who might be interested. Thanks! okay, so i checked the website :-) it sounds like a lot of fun. i'll try to get there... lance g. ps it's in anaheim:orange county:california:usa:earth:sol system:milky way, etc. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 15:27:57 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA04379; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:26:16 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 15:26:16 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <005901c0d1ac$1075a760$0300a8c0@foothilltransit.org> From: "phalen orion" To: References: Subject: Re: Celebrate Cinco de Mayo: Fun Group Noise at AAA Electra 99 Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 12:30:48 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6598 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com You should find a venue and make it happen :) Yes, the performance will most likely be recorded... though I haven't planned exactly how yet; either through the mixer or through a minidisc or two. Best, phalen << I wish something like this was happening in Chicago!!! Will the performance be recorded? Please say yes. It would be fun to hear what comes out of this. Ted >> >The Little Engines - 100% improvisational, audience-is-performer sound-art >performance, May 5, 2001 at AAA Electra 99 art gallery, museum and >performance space. BRING YOUR OWN INSTRUMENT: things like From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 17:36:46 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA08909; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:32:59 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:32:59 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: matthias@pop.e-net.com.br Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <000e01c0d164$48947ec0$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au> References: <000e01c0d164$48947ec0$5ba12dcb@qld.bigpond.net.au> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:34:19 -0300 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Matthias Grob Subject: Re: Logic Audio Loops Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6599 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com >I'm very interested in your application. I have yet to find a software >looper that actually works the way I think it should. I was able to make >Logic Audio work as a great looper though, in sync with midi and everything, Jeff, Did you ever explain to us what you can do? I find that very interesting. After all, there is a PowerBook G3 on the way here! And lately I heard from several people that the ended up liking Logic better than Performer for the flexibility. Would you say that what you do with Logic is impossible with any other App? Thank you Matthias -- ---> http://Matthias.Grob.org From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 17:39:47 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA09105; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:38:17 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 17:38:17 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010430213752.9411.qmail@web9602.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:37:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Dumeril Seven Subject: Re: Line 6 Filter modeler To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6600 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --- Richard Zvonar wrote: > At 4:39 AM -0700 4/30/01, Rick Walker (loop.pool) wrote: > >perhaps we should forward all of these e-mails to [Line6]. They > >are a cool company and I, frankly, was really looking forward to > >this pedal. > > Hard to say how Line6 responds to customer feedback. I had some > correspondence with Steve DeFuria a while back, specifically about > their stomp boxes. I commented on the limited number of presets > supported and I made some suggestions about the design of a pro > version of same (along the lines of the POD Pro). His response was > terse and noncommittal: "I can't comment on what we may (or may not) > have under development, of course, but it's always good to get > feedback about our products. We value your comments and suggestions." Well, you can't really expect anymore than that. A new product means a major investment in money and human resources and requires buy-in all the way across the company. A customer support person just doesn't have the authority to do any more than dutifully log customer suggestions. Hopefully there's a critical mass of like-minded suggestions.... d7 ===== Dumeril7 dumeril7@SPAMBEGONEyahoo.com Anti-spam measures in place -- remove "SPAMBEGONE" from my e-mail address if you want to use it.... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 18:06:33 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA10696; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:04:14 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:04:14 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010430180044.009f0900@mail.pdfsystems.com> X-Sender: robert@mail.pdfsystems.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:03:46 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: "anti:clockwise" Subject: NYC GIG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_6405160==_.ALT" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6601 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com --=====================_6405160==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed the pink pony presents anti:clockwise saturday may 4 10.00 pm another evening of head spinning, action packed adventure and again in collaboration with visualist chris jordan the pony is on ludlow street, south of houston ++++++++ just what the world needs.... another frikkin url --=====================_6405160==_.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
the pink pony presents

anti:clockwise

saturday may 4  10.00 pm

another evening of head spinning, action packed adventure
and again in collaboration with

visualist chris jordan

the pony is on ludlow street, south of houston

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--=====================_6405160==_.ALT-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 19:26:14 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA13607; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 19:24:09 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 19:24:09 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <20010430232318.64474.qmail@graffiti.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) From: "L. E." To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 07:23:18 +0800 Subject: stop this thread its worthless Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6602 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com ahh your so sweet good thing i never put in things like that and i am not pirating software... so chill folks damn glad to hear that the feds are after me you guys seem way more interestted in this copyright issue then some legitament questions.... damn i hope you guys dont have any opinions on napster.... sheesh again im not offering to sell, distribute or pirate software so stop this thread damn you guys should get back to working on your music im sure you would fee better about yourselves. it would be less a waste of time then this.. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Pulver Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:02:04 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ???? > rich (10:44 AM 04/30/01) wrote: > > >>so your saying that the cracked version cant change the speed? > >>why would that be? if it is then the designers of cool edit pre > >>are genious's but i doubt that they designed that as a crack flaw.... > > I wanted to jump in here and point out that a well placed email into > Syntrillium brought me a couple of very interesting replies. > > It seems that, even though that this guy is using one of the free email > services (graffiti.net), his name and address are pretty available to > copyright control folks. > > > Mark > > -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://www.graffiti.net Powered by Outblaze From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 19:34:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA13926; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 19:31:58 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 19:31:58 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <4495C77AB577D31199120008C756D0C4028DB19B@migarexch01.maritz.com> From: "Liebig, Steuart A." To: "'Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com'" Subject: FW: [BIG SUR EXPERIMENTAL MUSIC FESTIVAL May 19th and 20th, 2001 Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 19:30:00 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0D1CD.797D0070" Resent-Message-ID: <0FLLG.A.IZD.1Wf76@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6603 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0D1CD.797D0070 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable not necessarily looping . . . but some on this list may be interested =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: April 3, 2001 Re: BIG SUR EXPERIMENTAL MUSIC FESTIVAL May 19th and 20th, 2001 Contact: Ernesto Diaz-Infante or Magnus Toren Tel: 001 831 667 2574 Email: or =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D BIG SUR EXPERIMENTAL MUSIC FESTIVAL=20 USA A wide variety of adventurous modern music: electronic, experimental improv, and ambient music from New York, Boston, Chicago, San = Francisco, Houston, Austria, Australia, and Italy. Featuring performances by Jeff Arnal, The Clocked-Out Duo, Dan DeChellis, Franco Degrassi/Gianni = Lenoci Duo, Ernesto Diaz-Infante/Chris Forsyth Duo, Philip Gayle, Boris Hauf, Hans Fjellestad/Damon Holzborn Duo, David Gross/James Coleman/Tucker Dulin Trio, Steev Hise, Bob Marsh/Bob Falesch/Sue Wolf Trio, Recursive Heretics, Gino Robair, and 99Hooker/Akio Mokono Duo. Henry Miller Memorial Library, Big Sur, California USA. Saturday and Sunday, May = 19th and 20th, 12-8pm. $10.00/day=A0$15.00 for both. 001 831 667 2574 http://www.henrymiller.org Day1. Saturday, May 19 2001 12pm Steev Hise - electronics (San Francisco) 1pm Hans Fjellestad/Damon Holzborn Duo keyboard/guitar/electronics (San Diego) 2pm David Gross/James Coleman/Tucker Dulin Trio - sax/theremin/trombone (Boston) 3pm Boris Hauf - g3 powerbook (Austria) 4pm Bob Marsh/Bob Falesch/Sue Wolf Trio - 2 cello/electronics (Chicago) 5pm Franco Degrassi/Gianni Lenoci Duo - keyboard/electronics (Italy) 6pm The Clocked-Out Duo - percussion/electric keyboard (Australia) 7pm BSXMF 2001 Large Ensemble (Interzone) Day2. Sunday, May 20 2001 1pm Philip Gayle - acoustic guitar solo (Houston) 2pm Jeff Arnal/Dan DeChellis Duo - electric keyboard/drums (New York) 3pm Recursive Heretics - sax and live processing w/g3 powerbook = (Oakland) 4pm Ernesto Diaz-Infante/Chris Forsyth Duo - acoustic/electric guitar (San Francisco/New York) 5pm 99Hooker/Akio Mokono Duo - sax/spoken word/g3 powerbook (New York) 6pm Gino Robair - potluck percussion (San Leandro) 7pm Electro-acoustic tape pieces set curated by Steev Hise=20 ++++++++++++++++++ For more info checkout: http://www.bayimproviser.com/bsxmf http://www.henrymiller.org/Events/events.html#expmusic The Henry Miller Library is nestled in a redwood-lined canyon in beautiful Big Sur, California. The space is an intimate outdoor venue that can comfortably accommodate 250 people; it captures the inspirational spirit of Henry Miller, the world-renowned writer, = artist, and Big Sur resident. The festival's goal for 2001 is to provide an innovative and unique forum for artists and audience alike. We are featuring performers whose work is experimental, improvisational, or avant-garde in nature. In addition, there will be a concert of electro-acoustic tape pieces curated by Steev Hise.=20 For information, tickets, or volunteer help, call 001 831 667 2574, email: Magnus Toren or Ernesto Diaz-Infante BSXMF 2001 is sponsored by: Coast Weekly 668 Williams Avenue. Seaside, CA 93955, 831-394-5656 Streetlight Records 939 Pacific Street, Santa Cruz=20 Monterey Mattress Company 701 Redwood Ave. Sand City, 831-899-5464 Bay Improviser.com KFJC 89.7 FM 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills CA 94022, = 650-949-7260 KUSP 88.9 FM P.O. Box 423, Santa Cruz, CA 95061-0423, 831/476-2800 or 1-800-695-5877 Video documentation by Claytowne Productions PO Box 245, Capitola, CA 95010, 831-477-9029 Food and drink by Big Sur Coast Foods DIRECTIONS: Traveling south from San Francisco or San Jose, Big Sur is 35 miles south of Carmel-by-the-Sea on Highway 1. The Library is a quarter-mile south Nepenthe restuarant in a redwood grove on the mountain side of = the road. ACCOMMODATIONS: Camping is available at Andrew Molera State Park for the cost of $3 per person. Andrew Molera has 20 miles of hiking and/or biking trails, coastal access, fishing, swimming, and surfing. Hike in 0.3 miles to primitive camping. For more info, call 831.667.2315 OTHER ACCOMMODATIONS: Hotel/motel accommodations in Big Sur are very expensive, and all accommodations on the Monterey Peninsula book quickly near holidays. If you would like to stay in a motel, we suggest the following: Mariposa Inn, 1386 Munras Avenue, Monterey, 831.649.1414;=20 Munras Lodge, 1010 Munras Avenue, Monterey, 831.646.9606; Sand Dollar Inn, 755 Abrego Street, Monterey, 831.372.7551. For more info on directions/accommodations call 831.667.2574 or email Magnus Toren Monterey is a one-hour drive away from Big Sur and the Henry Miller = Library. -- http://www.paxrecordings.com/~ernesto http://www.paxrecordings.com/links.html To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: socalexp-unsubscribe@onelist.com =20 Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to = http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0D1CD.797D0070 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FW: [BIG SUR EXPERIMENTAL MUSIC FESTIVAL May 19th and 20th, = 2001

not necessarily looping . . . but some on this list = may be interested



=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:  April 3, 2001
Re: BIG SUR EXPERIMENTAL MUSIC FESTIVAL May 19th and = 20th, 2001
Contact:  Ernesto Diaz-Infante or Magnus = Toren
Tel: 001 831 667 2574
Email: <itzat@earthlink.net> or = <magnus@henrymiller.org>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

BIG SUR EXPERIMENTAL MUSIC FESTIVAL
USA
A wide variety of adventurous modern music: = electronic, experimental
improv, and ambient music from New York, Boston, = Chicago, San Francisco,
Houston, Austria, Australia, and Italy. Featuring = performances by Jeff
Arnal, The Clocked-Out Duo, Dan DeChellis, Franco = Degrassi/Gianni Lenoci
Duo, Ernesto Diaz-Infante/Chris Forsyth Duo, Philip = Gayle, Boris Hauf,
Hans Fjellestad/Damon Holzborn Duo, David = Gross/James Coleman/Tucker
Dulin Trio, Steev Hise, Bob Marsh/Bob Falesch/Sue = Wolf Trio, Recursive
Heretics, Gino Robair, and 99Hooker/Akio Mokono Duo. = Henry Miller
Memorial Library, Big Sur, California USA. Saturday = and Sunday, May 19th
and 20th, 12-8pm. $10.00/day=A0$15.00 for both. 001 = 831 667 2574 http://www.henrymiller.org

Day1. Saturday, May 19 2001

12pm Steev Hise - electronics (San Francisco)
1pm Hans Fjellestad/Damon Holzborn Duo = keyboard/guitar/electronics (San Diego)
2pm David Gross/James Coleman/Tucker Dulin Trio - = sax/theremin/trombone (Boston)
3pm Boris Hauf - g3 powerbook (Austria)
4pm Bob Marsh/Bob Falesch/Sue Wolf Trio - 2 = cello/electronics (Chicago)
5pm Franco Degrassi/Gianni Lenoci Duo - = keyboard/electronics (Italy)
6pm The Clocked-Out Duo - percussion/electric = keyboard (Australia)
7pm BSXMF 2001 Large Ensemble (Interzone)


Day2. Sunday, May 20 2001

1pm Philip Gayle - acoustic guitar solo = (Houston)
2pm Jeff Arnal/Dan DeChellis Duo - electric = keyboard/drums (New York)
3pm Recursive Heretics - sax and live processing = w/g3 powerbook (Oakland)
4pm Ernesto Diaz-Infante/Chris Forsyth Duo - = acoustic/electric guitar
(San Francisco/New York)
5pm 99Hooker/Akio Mokono Duo - sax/spoken word/g3 = powerbook (New York)
6pm Gino Robair - potluck percussion (San = Leandro)
7pm Electro-acoustic tape pieces set curated by = Steev Hise


++++++++++++++++++
For more info checkout:
http://www.bayimproviser.com/bsxmf
http://www.henrymiller.org/Events/events.html#expmusic=

The Henry Miller Library is nestled in a = redwood-lined canyon in
beautiful Big Sur, California. The space is an = intimate outdoor venue
that can comfortably accommodate 250 people; it = captures the
inspirational spirit of Henry Miller, the = world-renowned writer, artist,
and Big Sur resident.

The festival's goal for 2001 is to provide an = innovative and unique
forum for artists and audience alike. We are = featuring performers whose
work is experimental, improvisational, or = avant-garde in nature. In
addition, there will be a concert of = electro-acoustic tape pieces
curated by Steev Hise.

For information, tickets, or volunteer help, call 001 = 831 667 2574,
email:  Magnus Toren = <magnus@henrymiller.org> or Ernesto Diaz-Infante = <itzat@earthlink.net>



BSXMF 2001 is sponsored by:
Coast Weekly 668 Williams Avenue. Seaside, CA 93955, = 831-394-5656
Streetlight Records 939 Pacific Street, Santa Cruz =
Monterey Mattress Company 701 Redwood Ave. Sand = City, 831-899-5464
Bay Improviser.com
KFJC 89.7 FM 12345 El Monte Road, Los Altos Hills CA = 94022, 650-949-7260
KUSP 88.9 FM P.O. Box 423, Santa Cruz, CA = 95061-0423, 831/476-2800 or 1-800-695-5877

Video documentation by
Claytowne Productions PO Box 245, Capitola, CA = 95010, 831-477-9029

Food and drink by
Big Sur Coast Foods

DIRECTIONS:
Traveling south from San Francisco or San Jose, Big = Sur is 35 miles
south of Carmel-by-the-Sea on Highway 1. The Library = is a quarter-mile
south Nepenthe restuarant in a redwood grove on the = mountain side of the road.

ACCOMMODATIONS:
Camping is available at Andrew Molera State Park for = the cost of $3 per
person. Andrew Molera has 20 miles of hiking and/or = biking trails,
coastal access, fishing, swimming, and surfing. Hike = in 0.3 miles to
primitive camping. For more info, call = 831.667.2315

OTHER ACCOMMODATIONS:
Hotel/motel accommodations in Big Sur are very = expensive, and all
accommodations on the Monterey Peninsula book = quickly near holidays. If
you would like to stay in a motel, we suggest the = following:

Mariposa Inn, 1386 Munras Avenue, Monterey, = 831.649.1414;
Munras Lodge, 1010 Munras Avenue, Monterey, = 831.646.9606;
Sand Dollar Inn, 755 Abrego Street, Monterey, = 831.372.7551.

For more info on directions/accommodations call = 831.667.2574 or email
Magnus Toren <magnus@henrymiller.org>

Monterey is a one-hour drive away from Big Sur and = the Henry Miller Library.

--
http://www.paxrecordings.com/~ernesto
http://www.paxrecordings.com/links.html

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C0D1CD.797D0070-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 21:06:35 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA17847; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:04:32 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:04:32 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20010430210238.007fc100@pop.ici.net> X-Sender: tcn62@pop.ici.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:02:38 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ???? In-Reply-To: <20010430171625.73522.qmail@graffiti.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6604 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 01:16 AM 5/1/01 +0800, you wrote: >but not one can answer a simple software related question? how do i adjust the speed of a loop on cool edit pro??? Down at the bottom of "Transform" you'll find "Time/Pitch"... OK? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 21:23:45 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA18256; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:22:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:22:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.127.217] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: stop this thread its worthless Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 01:20:06 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2001 01:20:06.0466 (UTC) FILETIME=[DB104220:01C0D1DC] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6605 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com



Ok, we all know the wrongs and evils of pirated software. And being a Software Engineer, I feel for R & D of any company. But ENUFF is ENUFF. This thread has gone on toooo long, and I don't even think this guy ever got an answer from anybody ! Now, what if he asked the same question, without revealing that he had a crack of Cool Edit Pro ? Would anyone have answered the guy, or would someone just pointed him to the Syntrillium site, and told him to ask Tech Support ? The purpose of these threads, is not to pass judgement on people, but to exchange knowledge ! Who knows, if someone had answered his question, and maybe pointed out to him the virtues of the software, maybe the guy might (I stress might) go out and buy the software - (has anybody thought of that)?

We live in an age, where everybody is suspious of everyone, and no one believes in the basic goodness of man, and this thread just reinforces that sentiment.

Oh, all you software, WAREZ guys, beware. Companies like Winace, Sonic Foundry and yes, even the evil empire Microsoft are gonna take the wind out of your software cracking arses ! And it all deals with the internet, the very vehicle that has spawned the warez groups, will be their demise !

Has anyone seen the new ACID Pro 3.0, for example. the application will send a Internet Notification script out to Sonic Foundry every time it recognizes a internet connection, and it will verify the validity of the software, and send the cracked version owner a little warning. Over time, the software will become inactive, and viola, endgame.

Now you say, "Never get online when the application is running"., well the application will prompt you periodically, like Norton Antivirus does for updates, and you will have to comply.

Winace's trick is simpler and more direct. The application checks the AV code, and it will revert back to shareware, if it finds that it is invalid.

So, all this WareZ and Pirated applications, will soon end.... and so will this thread... I hope.

----Original Message Follows----
From: "L. E."
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: stop this thread its worthless
Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 07:23:18 +0800
ahh your so sweet
good thing i never put in things like that
and i am not pirating software...
so chill folks damn
glad to hear that the feds are after me
you guys seem way more interestted in this copyright issue
then some legitament questions....
damn i hope you guys dont have any opinions on napster....
sheesh
again im not offering to sell, distribute or pirate software
so stop this thread
damn you guys should get back to working on your music im sure you would fee better about yourselves. it would be less a waste of time then this..
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Pulver
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 11:02:04 -0700
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ????
> rich (10:44 AM 04/30/01) wrote:
>
> >>so your saying that the cracked version cant change the speed?
> >>why would that be? if it is then the designers of cool edit pre
> >>are genious's but i doubt that they designed that as a crack flaw....
>
> I wanted to jump in here and point out that a well placed email into
> Syntrillium brought me a couple of very interesting replies.
>
> It seems that, even though that this guy is using one of the free email
> services (graffiti.net), his name and address are pretty available to
> copyright control folks.
>
>
> Mark
>
>
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 21:24:18 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA18299; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:23:12 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:23:12 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:20:44 -0700 From: Catharsis Subject: Lou Harrison In-reply-to: <200104301702.NAA28572@hemlock.violacea.com> X-Sender: catharsis@tyranny.egregious.net To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010430180117.029ba2f0@tyranny.egregious.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: <1DvWQ.A.HdE.8-g76@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6606 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com At 13:02 4/30/01 -0400, you wrote: >Did you talk to Lou Harrison? How is he doing? In passing yes.. I am new to this area, so I basically smiled and said, "hello". He seems to be doing well for being 84 or 85. It was interesting weekend; Harrison had a good key note address. Sadly, a younger generation was not present. It seems most people actively working in the microtonal arena are 35+ though that is of course not the rule (it seems like that on the tuning list and from the conference participants). Learning about that side of music history really seems to unify and complement the electronic world. Actually it was quite funny. Erv Wilson put on a CD behind his talk and the second it came on my ears picked up... "Hey, wait a second: this is dance music if you put a 4/4 beat behind it..." I mentioned that to someone after his talk and they looked at my funny. I asked Erv about it and he sent me to Perfect Buzz (http://www.marcussatellite.com/). I got in touch with Marcus and we had a good laugh... ;) >This may indeed be the "first microtonal conference," though there was an >annual instrument builders' conference at UCSD in the late '70s. Many >microtonalists participated, including a number of Harry Patch colleagues >and disciples. I have heard there was an 8 day festival in New York during the '80s. Say, I just came across a small quote from you in Joel Chadabe's Electric Sound. Heh heh.. It is funny as when I read it I thought, "hey, I know that guy: he is a looper!" ;) --Catharsis Egregious "Spiritual renewal through music for those outside the heard." http://www.egregious.net/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 21:25:07 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA18307; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:23:42 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:23:42 -0400 Old-Return-Path: X-Originating-IP: [66.72.127.217] Reply-To: dj_devious_d@hotmail.com From: "Devious D_MasterMixer" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ???? Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 01:21:59 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 May 2001 01:21:59.0521 (UTC) FILETIME=[1E731510:01C0D1DD] Resent-Message-ID: <-BHgTB.A.tdE.W_g76@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6607 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com

Good answer, now can we lay this to rest.

----Original Message Follows----
From: Tim Nelson
Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: Re: new member with some cool edit pro ????
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:02:38 -0400
At 01:16 AM 5/1/01 +0800, you wrote:
>but not one can answer a simple software related question? how do i adjust
the speed of a loop on cool edit pro???
Down at the bottom of "Transform" you'll find "Time/Pitch"...
OK?

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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Apr 30 21:46:51 2001 Return-Path: Received: (from looper@localhost) by hemlock.violacea.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA18897; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:45:30 -0400 Resent-Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 21:45:30 -0400 Old-Return-Path: Message-ID: <011601c0d1e0$df946de0$2f89e3a5@looppool> From: "Rick Walker (loop.pool)" To: References: <200104301702.NAA28571@hemlock.violacea.com> Subject: Re: RE filters Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:48:40 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Resent-Message-ID: <9jDGYD.A.jmE.gTh76@hemlock.violacea.com> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/6608 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com db wrote: "anyone use the Electrix Filter Queen and/or Factory? I have a filter queen and i love her." I adore my Electrix Filter Factory. I bought both the Filter Queen and the Filter Factory to compare them and then returned the Filter Queen. If you've got the dough to afford it, it really rocks, especially for Live Looping Artists because of it's ability to synd LFO speeds to midi in/and/or send out LFO 'clock' to midi ready loopers. try it, you'll like it, yours, Rick Walker (loop.pool)

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