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Re: Roland GK cable noise issue



No need to continue this thread for my sake here. I have already
replaced the GR-55 with a vocal mic input in my rig (wasn't place for
both).

Per


On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you, but I'm not using Live at the moment. I may get in touch
> later though if need for this patch turns up.
>
> Greetings from Sweden
>
> Per Boysen
> www.perboysen.com
> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Ricky Graham
> <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>> It tracks pitch. It's fairly basic at the moment but will continue to
>> develop it over the next while (probably over the summer at this
>> point). I can send it on to you, if you like.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Thanks, but driving MIDI instrument is no problem. I send that data
>>> over a USB cable and don't even need to have the volume up for the GK
>>> cable's "terror".
>>>
>>> Interesting that you are mentioning pitch tracking since that is what
>>> I normally use instead of the GR-55 :-)  Currently only in the AxeFx
>>> but in the past also in Live and similar apps. I'm subscribing to the
>>> M4L new patches library but can't recall having seen a "pitch tracker
>>> to MIDI" patch yet. Is that what your thing does? Or does it track
>>> analog amplitude directly to synth wave forms?
>>>
>>> Greetings from Sweden
>>>
>>> Per Boysen
>>> www.perboysen.com
>>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Ricky Graham
>>> <rickygrahammusic@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Do you want to drive synths in Live, Per? Might be able to send on a
>>>> monophonic pitch tracker M4L device for you. Not polyphonic (yet) but
>>>> a start. Let me know and I will send it on for you to test out.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I think the GR-55 has great sounds and they sound even better when
>>>>> passed through the AxeFx. I only use synths though since I'm not so
>>>>> happy with the guitar mod/sim stuff. It's just just a matter of 
>>>>> taste.
>>>>>
>>>>> Per
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:27 PM, mark francombe 
>>>>> <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Question: I know you are using the AxeFX now for guitar sounds, but 
>>>>>> how can
>>>>>> you use the guitar cable for using either the VG guitar OR internal 
>>>>>> effects
>>>>>> on normal pickup, UNLESS you use the GK cable? There are options 
>>>>>> for sending
>>>>>> the normal pickup out of the Guitar out socket, but then its too 
>>>>>> late right?
>>>>>> Damage Done?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I too have a regular cable plugged in as well as the GK cable, cos 
>>>>>> I like to
>>>>>> use a few stomp boxes, so I have one mixer channel for a more 
>>>>>> regular guitar
>>>>>> set-up. But for using any tuning things on the GR55, you are gonna 
>>>>>> have to
>>>>>> come down the GK cable?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However in answer to the question, I have had to buy a few GK 
>>>>>> cables in miy
>>>>>> time with Roland guitar synths, and I always have one completely 
>>>>>> new cable
>>>>>> still packages actually, ready for a break-up, it not like you can 
>>>>>> borrow
>>>>>> one off the sound guy can you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course you can JUST use the midi sounds from a guitar synth, but 
>>>>>> with the
>>>>>> GR55 you would be missing out more than half the box!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I must say, that its taken me A VERY LONG TIME to get a good sound 
>>>>>> out of
>>>>>> it, all the git sims were so terrible, but suddenly now I have got 
>>>>>> a really
>>>>>> GREAT basic sound, and have been applying all my special FX to the 
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> basic patch, with AWESOME results!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sure, I totally agree with that. I would never send the magnetic
>>>>>>> pickups through the GK shebang since it degrades the fidelity so 
>>>>>>> much.
>>>>>>> Only the synth string trigger data to drive synths are sent through
>>>>>>> that cable here. What's happening here is that when the cable moves
>>>>>>> synths get triggered just by data generated inside the cable. If 
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> sit absolutely still it is silent but playing in a standing up
>>>>>>> position is impossible. I have all GR-55 settings correctly set up 
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> it can't be that (using four different global settings each trimmed
>>>>>>> for a particular instrument's unique scale length and GK mic 
>>>>>>> placement
>>>>>>> related bridge position for every string). So it has to be the 
>>>>>>> cable,
>>>>>>> doesn't it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings from Sweden
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Per Boysen
>>>>>>> www.perboysen.com
>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Simeon Harris
>>>>>>> <simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > i had problems with mine when i tried to send the magnetic 
>>>>>>> > signal down
>>>>>>> > it. in the end i used a standard cable for the mags. it's not 
>>>>>>> > shielded very
>>>>>>> > well
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On 19 Mar 2013, at 12:32, Per Boysen wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> Hi,
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> I'm experiencing fatal noise issues with the Roland GK cable. 
>>>>>>> >> If I
>>>>>>> >> move or touch the cable all hell breaks loose in the PA. Are 
>>>>>>> >> these
>>>>>>> >> cables normally this sensitive?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Greetings from Sweden
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Per Boysen
>>>>>>> >> www.perboysen.com
>>>>>>> >> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Mark Francombe
>>>>>> www.markfrancombe.com
>>>>>> www.ordoabkhao.com
>>>>>> http://vimeo.com/user825094
>>>>>> http://www.looop.no
>>>>>> twitter @markfrancombe
>>>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>