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Re: A = 440 Hz OR 432 Hz?



That's pretty interesting Per and particularly the Apple Logic tuning mode.  When I read the initial post of this thread I thought about sounds like in the 'Just' camp which I've done a lot of research in of late through a couple of member musicians in the http://sound-in.org (formerly ImprovFriday) community I'm part of each weekend.

Though I don't pretend to know much about Just or microtonal there is a lot of interest here in NY among  artists like Johnny Reinhard and Michael Waller, the latter a student and follower of LaMonte Young who is a minimalist movement composer here in NY that I only recently became aware of.

I may be 'off' in my thoughts here is this may be nothing of the same though the idea of dropping pitch center to lower hertz sounds like approaches with 'just intonation'.

Regardless interesting to me the initial and your informative post.

Best


Jim

On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:21 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, pretty interesting! All those links target videos and if you want
to take in information faster, here's a text page for a good
introduction:
http://the-universal-mind.blogspot.se/2008/11/back-to-432-hz.html

This, as most players in the 432 Hz debate, seems to refer to The
committee 'Back to 432 Hz', created by Dutch journalist Richard
Huisken in 2008:
http://www.terugnaar432hz.org

I haven't done much so far at 432 - not that I've been aware of -
except for a choir music remix when the vocal recording files sent to
me turned out to be at 432 Hz. I tuned down my studio to match that
but noticed no other effect than my alto flute becoming a bitch to
play that low (built for 440).

One aspect of producing recordings with Apple Logic, that I'm fond of,
is that as long as you stick with Logic's own virtual instruments (and
there are more than in any other DAW package) you have instant access
to global tuning options. These options not only let you tune down to
432 (or any other pitch you might fancy) but also chose between a
couple of hundred micro tonal tunings, called "fixed tunings" in Logic
because they needs you to define a tonal center.

I'm not always fond of having a tonal center and then my personal
favorite for sequencing virtual instruments in Logic is to use Hermode
Tuning of the kind that constantly analyzes the arrangement and
matches both thirds and fifths for the purest harmony in any musical
situation. This means the thirds are not always the same - as in
Pythagorian tuning, referred to in those linked videos - but changes
depending to what other notes happend to be sounding at any particular
moment. This is how often a choir or a string ensemble learn to adapt
micro tuning within the performance of a musical piece.

I plan try out making an all electronic album project some day in
Hermode (3+5 optimization) with the middle A at 432. It must be big
chunk of music because if presented on air or any other public media
stream it will sound strange as all other music around are at 440 and
we tend to remember pitch for several minutes after having heard
music. So the playback setting must ensure that the listener is given
the time needed to adjust.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.perboysen.com
http://www.youtube.com/perboysen


On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 5:55 AM, Jack Cattedra
<the_beat_conductor@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Stumbled upon this topic recently and I find it very interesting. From my
> personal experience and experimentation, I've found that I naturally tune my
> instruments to this frequency or a harmonic of it. Not to mention,
> songwriting just seems to flow so much easier this way, who knows. I don't
> like to intellectualize these types of things too much, but I figured I'd
> share these links anyway. :)
>
>
> The Cosmic 432 - Part 1
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVATlX4XKMk
>
> The Cosmic 432 - Part 2
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUuyeor8f6Q
>
>
> Fred Cusinato: 432 Hertz Healing - Truth Connections Radio - 15th May 2012
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJTydBYVF4E
>




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