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Re: Mobius Mystery part 2

Well I have noticed that I get the occasional portamento cc sent after
the notes but I wasn't sure if that was the Rotary controller or the

I can't confirm things since I'm not in front of the computer I'm
using for this, but I believe I tried changing to PC messages instead
and I got no response at all from Mobius in Live.

I am trying to be diligent in my testing before I send these messages
at least :-)

Thanks for the ongoing help, I'm convinced this is going to open a
whole new vista of musical possibilities once I get this up and


On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
> A quick comment related Jeff's mentioning of the FCB sending out MIDI
> PC messages it is not programmed to send out. I have owned three FCB's
> and each of them sent out random bursts of MIDI CC# data now and then
> in addition to the MIDI Notes it was programmed to send out. Not
> thinking that this phenomenon can cause the issue Kevin suffers
> though, just wanted to complete  the picture of The FCB's
> Peculiarities.
> Greetings from Sweden
> Per Boysen
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> On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Jeff Larson <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com> 
> wrote:
>> I ran a few tests on Windows and Mac, and I'm able to get Note On and 
>> Note Off through Live to Mobius.
>> The tests were done with a little Korg nanoKey but that shouldn't make 
>> a difference, the important thing is that you need to make sure that 
>> the FCB 1010 is sending both Note On and Note Off and nothing else. 
>>  The FCB can sometimes send extra MIDI program changes along with the 
>> note events if you don't disable that when you program the note.  To 
>> verify this use MIDI Monitor on Mac or MIDI-OX on Windows and make sure 
>> that you're only getting Note on/off from the device.
>> Next I brought up Live, 1 audio track, 1, midi track, went to "MIDI 
>> Sync" tab in Live's preferences and made sure that for the nanoKey the 
>> "On" button under the Track column was lit, the Sync and Remote buttons 
>> should be Off.
>> Then I dropped Mobius 2 into the audio track.  In the Mobius MIDI 
>> Devices window make sure there is nothing selected in the Plugin Input 
>> Devices panel.  In the MIDI track, the "MIDI From" button reads "All 
>> Ins" and
>> "All Channels" under "Monitor" click the "In" button  so it is lit, 
>> under "MIDI To" select "1-Audio".
>> Go back to the Mobius window and open the MIDI Control dialog.  I added 
>> a binding for the Record function and used MIDI capture to detect the 
>> first key on the nanoKey.  Close the MIDI Control dialog, and press the 
>> key.  Recording starts.  Press key again, recording stops.
>> On Windows I was using Live 8.1.1 on OS X I was using an older trial 
>> version of 7.0.12.
>> Jeff
>> ________________________________________
>> From: Kevin Cheli-Colando [billowhead@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:57 PM
>> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Subject: Re: Mobius Mystery part 2
>> Well, this is getting embarrassing but I will press on to ask again 
>> anyway.
>> I can get the midi to work running Mobius as a stand alone.  Record
>> starts recording and plays as expected when stopped.
>> But when I go into Live, the recording always does that 1 second and
>> reset thing.  I thought I tried all the things suggested (and I do
>> have it set up as described below) but I can't figure out what is
>> going on.  Anyone want to take pity on a simpleton and walk me through
>> the steps of configuring Live and Mobius to play nicely together.  I
>> feel like I'm missing something obvious but don't know how to track it
>> down.  I guess its fair to say I know enough to cause trouble but
>> don't really quite understand exactly what I'm doing.
>> I'd be happy to read a manual but I can't even seem to find the
>> solution to the problem I'm facing in the manual or forums (though
>> Jeff's manual does mention the long press reset problem but seems to
>> assume I would then know how to solve that issue).
>> Round three anyone?
>> Kevin

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