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Re: Spawning musical ideas?

Nice playing Per that was awesome

On Jan 31, 2012 1:47 AM, "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Just a short note on "chord changes":

I agree with Sim that if you record a sequence of chord changes as a
long loop, then it may become problematic to break free from it. But
chord changes can really be used creatively in live looping if you
rather use the looper as the instrument to create the chord changes!
With a looper that does rate shifting you can simply record one chord
and then "play the loop" by a foot pedal to change the pitch of that
loop as you please, while playing over it. With that looping technique
you can improvise both melody and chord progression simultaneously.
Here's an educational audio clip where I'm doing exactly that. Only
using a saxophone and the looper:


On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
> i would add that coming up with new sounds is a great way to find inspiration
> also, listen to other loopers...you'll find that many don't rely on
> chord progressions...in fact i would say that chord progressions can
> become a bit of a prison and lock you in to a way of playing. unless
> you're really good at evolving your pieces. someone posted a youtube
> clip of a chap looping with a keybaord into ableton live the other
> day, which i thought was quite impressive...might be worth checking
> out. the problem is, that as soon as the listener hears a chord
> sequence, it sets up certain expectations about how that's going to
> change. we're very used to hearing chord sequences in "song form",
> where a verse turns into a chorus (with a different sequence and
> melody) and there may be a bridge etc etc. the same is true of soloing
> over chord sequences...it sets up expectations about what might happen
> next. if that doesn't happen, then it can lead to a sense of
> disappointment. if you think about modern dance music, much of it
> doesn't rely on chord changes....it's all on one chord...so we accept
> that and concentrate on other elements in the music and these can be
> changed and evolved over time.
> you could try starting with the drums. get a really good groove
> going...lay down some phat bass and take it from there...
> sim
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 4:32 AM, Gmail <k3zz21@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Lol that scares me. I won't know the progression if I do it that way :/
>>> or do chord progressions even matter?