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Re: Innerclock



Per,

My application is fairly simple... trying to slave my LP1 to Ableton's 
MIDI clock. Always starts well but drifts to unacceptability after 100 
bars or so.  I would be as happy to find a 'meta' clock that could feed 
Ableton and LP1 and whatever else in parallel... but not sure whether the 
fault lies with Ableton or LP1 anyway...

Jeff,

You are right that website is almost un-navigable... It does have an 
oldschool Internet Explorer, gif-background vibe :)  But... if poorly 
designed websites were the determining factor there are many solutions I 
would never have found.  Anyway, I'm not averse to trying new stuff but at 
the prices they are charging for their gear, it better make me sandwiches 
while I play. Without a ringing endorsement from you folks, I suspect I'll 
leave it alone :)

Here's another audio-based solution: 
http://m.matrixsynth.com/2010/04/rv0-sync-unit-dc.html 
But this moves into unfamiliar territory for me and I hesitate to invite 
another devil to the dance...

Phil





On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:16 PM, Jeff Larson wrote:

> It's hard to tell because this is one of the most poorly designed web 
> sites I've ever seen.  But from what I was able to read within the sea 
> of distracting graphics it's a combination of a plugin and a hardware 
> device that can be used to generate a much more stable MIDI clock than 
> can be done in software.  I think rather than using a timer in the 
> computer and sending MIDI through the computer, you send sync pulses as 
> an audio signal from the plugin out through the audio device, the 
> hardware then monitors this signal and generates MIDI clocks.  Besides 
> avoiding the jittery environment within the computer this also allows 
> the MIDI clocks to be generated with sample accurate positioning since 
> the sync pulses are interleaved with the audio you hear.  I'm guessing 
> you need a multichannel audio device, and you dedicate one channel for 
> the sync pulses and use the others for audible signals.  I would imagine 
> this would be useful for anyone that wanted to combine tracks in a DAW 
> with patterns played by external hardware devices that follow MIDI 
> clocks.
> 
> There may be more but it took me 15 minutes just to get that far.  This 
> is a textbook example of how NOT
> to design web sites that market a product.  
> 
> Jeff
> 
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: Per Boysen [perboysen@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 5:52 PM
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Subject: Re: Innerclock
> 
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:24 PM, Phil Clevenger
> <phil.clevenger@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Anyone have any experience using Innerclock products to better govern 
>> MIDI clock sync?
>> 
>> http://innerclocksystems.com/New%20ICS%20Products.html
> 
> 
> How would that be possible? I mean, the problem with MIDI clock sync
> is not how it's governed but that the protocol in itself isn't very
> accurate, meaning the slaving device will have to play catch-up all
> the time; either it is a bit too fast and needs to slow down or it is
> a bit too slow and needs to speed up. If MIDI clock doesn't sound
> tight enough for your application I would rather use something else,
> like for example MTC or Rewire.
> 
> Greetings from Sweden
> 
> Per Boysen
> www.perboysen.com
> http://www.youtube.com/perboysen
> 
> 
>