On 7/22/64 11:59 AM, Petri Lahtinen wrote:
Dear Petri, with great respect, I feel compelled to point something out having read your post here:I'm so with you Scott on not-going-the-computer-route.Recently I have seen two gigs get ruined with problems with mac book pro and ableton live.And the most important thing is I want to use these machines AS LITTLE as possible.Mimimized my computer-time to one hour a day nowadays. -Petri-
Namely, every looping solution available commercially these days (with the exception of someone using two Revox analog tape machines or perhaps Stan Cards live feedback looping experiments)
is gear that has the same very simple things in common:namely on the front end, they have a signal that is converted with an Analog to Digital converter/ that sound is manipulated/processed/looper through written software/ it is then sent from a Digital to Analog converter/ then, it is sent to some kind of amplification
Whatever you are using IS a computer. It may be a dedicated computer like any so called hardware solution or it may be a non-dedicated computer using software that someone has written for it.
Personally, I am a hardware user. I can't even explain why I like it more, but I do.
However, I have seen literally hundreds of performances in the looping festivals that I've attended in 15 different countries and at the 10 years of the live looping festival I've produced (for which I was the MC for all of the performances). I venture to say that there is a good chance that I've seen as many live looping gigs as anyone on the planet so I think I have
a good sampling of what works and what fails on stage.I can say categorically, that hardware seem to fail every bit as much as software at gigs (and probably a third of the time it is the human element which has actually failed in retrospect). I've seen laptops fail, EDPs, Looperlatives, Boss, Line 6, Jammans, Repeaters, controllers.........you name it. I've seen all of them fail. From my observation, the more complex ones seem to have a greater failure rate
(EDPs, LP-1s, Repeaters, Laptops) but the stomp box pedals fail as well.The only thing that I see as an advantage to hardware is that it is nominally less expensive to have backups in place on stage. When a laptop system fails, the whole musical experience can just stop.........ouch!!! When I play, I always take a less sophisticated stomp box modelled live looper with me so that I can do my entire show if my LP-1 or my Repeater should fail (they both can freeze up if you over tax them).
Still and all, hardware looping solutions and software solutions are made by human beings and used by humans beings who are, inherently, imperfect. Failure WILL happen, from my experience, eventually, if not continually. I just think one's decision to use one solution or the other is truly, an aesthetic decision in the long run and that everyone's
decision is valid, artistically.The next topic, then perhaps is what strategies do we have to cover equipment failure on stage.
I'll start that thread now. That's my inflated two cents. yours, respectfully, Rick Walker