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Re: Unsubscribe

...and once again, we've come to this.

How should we unsubscribe... thoughts?

2010/6/11 donald freeman <dfreeman120@gmail.com>


On Jun 10, 2010 9:08 PM, "Dennis Moser" <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:

What Per said...go with the Intel model and you should be just fine.



On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Nadia Salom <nadia.salom@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi,
> I have looked into hackintosh but I am not a programmer and I dont think I
> could do this on my own. And Linux would be an option but... I dont know. I
> am thinking of just getting a used iBook, macbook or power book...
> for example...
> Apple iBook G4 1.33 GHz 12"  1GB Ram
> 40 GB Harddrive... ( 300 euro)
> Apple PowerBook G4 12" 1,5Ghz 1,25GBRam 80Gb HDD SD (min. 300 euros)
> Apple Powerbook G4,17",1GHz,Airport, BT, 1,5GB, 80GB (375euros)
> APPLE MACBook 2GHZ 160GB 2GB Intel Core 2Duo (500euros)

> i think all they would be fast enough for live performance...playing some
> midi instruments, sa...

> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 12:17:18 +0900
> Von: michael noble <looplog@gmail.com>
> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Betreff: Re: looping with a netbook
> hi all,
> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Mech <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
>> However, there was a previous question that asked about running Live in
>> Wine under Linux.  While Linux should be more robust overall, I believe the
>> Wine libraries essentially load a virtual Windows machine.  So you're kind
>> of running a computer inside a computer. Not very efficient, I don't
>> believe, and I wouldn't recommend it, since Wine would probably eat up any
>> performance gains you'd get from Linux.  However, take that with a grain of
>> salt, since I haven't actually played with Wine since its alpha releases.
> This is not really accurate to my knowledge, and certainly does not reflect
> my experience. Wine is no way a virtual machine. It is really nothing more
> than a compatibility layer to translate windows api calls into something the
> base system understands - it doesn't emulate software or hardware in any
> way. This will add a small processing overhead, but it really is very
> insignificant. Chances are, with a well configured linux system, performance
> can be comparable to a windows system with the benefit of also being able to
> use native linux audio apps.
> In the past I've run audiomulch under linux in this way, and in fact was
> easily able to run eight simultaneous instances of audiomulch (preferring
> parallel processes for performance and redundancy), passing their audio into
> jack to be shared with linux apps and each other. With things like the
> wineasio audio output and the realtime wine patches, wine audio apps can be
> made to run very efficiently and at low latencies. This was an older
> core2duo though, so a netbook would be a little more limited. Also, it's not
> an out-of-the-box experience, so if system configuration and optimization is
> not your thing, then maybe consider the hackintosh route. (that being said
> there are some audio-centric linux audio distros optimized for low power
> machines like puredyne, and you can also buy a preconfigured msi-wind
> netbook with the Tranmission OS for not much more than a standard netbook
> price).
> So to answer the OPs question, windows audio apps can be made to run very
> efficiently under linux and with very low latencies. That being said, I
> really couldn't say about running later versions of ableton live. I don't
> have nor need it so I haven't tested it. It is rated gold over at WineHQ, so
> it has certainly been tested and run by at least some people, and that's
> without the tweaks I mentioned above.
> -michael
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