Definitely doesn't mean that one quits, it does mean that one may need to adjust expectations. If you're looking for fame and fortune this may not be the way to find it. I believe it was Mathias that said somewhere that looping was a sort of self therapy... I liked that a lot! It is certainly that way for me. I play for myself and some other people seem to get something out of it as well and I'm happy for them. Actually playing the hammered dulcimer gets the same emotional response, I think that may be why I've been trying to blend the two together. If I'm hired to entertain, then I do a different sort of music altogether. If I want to make money, then I do plumbing........ Paul Haslem www.dulcify.ca Ontario, Canada >I recall a quote from him saying that it was still his favorite way >of making sounds; yet this is the man who went on record saying "you >can't sell ambient music" in England. No kidding, he said nine >years on! Doesn't mean one quits though hm?