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Re: Gibson EDP/Allen&Heath Mixwizard question

Hey Andy,

I actually just figured it out (I did have the EDP's mix all the way  
up). The A&H's effects route through Auxes 5&6. I had the EDP going to  
Aux 5. The problem turns out that I have to also turn up Aux 4, to  
make the sound full again.
I am just guessing, but Aux 4 probably mixes in the unlooped signal,  
thus making it sound full?
Anyway, it works and thanks for all of your help.


On Nov 30, 2009, at 1:20 PM, andy butler wrote:

> you need to set the EDP Mix control full up
> (wet only)
> Todd Chambeau wrote:
>> Hey Andy,
>> I spoke too soon. It works, however after I put down the original  
>> loop, any overdubbing comes out extremely thin (EQ wise) the volume  
>> is there, but it sounds like all of the mids and highs are turned  
>> to 10.
>> I turned off all of the internal effects etc., and tried a couple  
>> of the other aux channels, but no luck.
>> Close but yet so far.
>> Todd
>> On Nov 28, 2009, at 9:38 AM, Todd Chambeau wrote:
>>> Thanks Andy,
>>> The A&H actually sends it's internal effects over aux 5&6.
>>> I ended up running the input to the EDP from Aux 1, then kept the  
>>> output of the EDP to the Stereo Input and this does work, I have a  
>>> wet loop.
>>> I am not really sure why this works, since I thought only Aux 5&6  
>>> were the routable internal effects auxes. Even on the effects list  
>>> right, on top of the board, it has an option for one set of  
>>> effects for Aux 5 and another for Aux 6?
>>> Thanks again for helping me out.
>>> Todd
>>> On Nov 28, 2009, at 5:19 AM, andy butler wrote:
>>>> Hi Todd,
>>>> Firstly, let's assume that you're using the EDP on a send other  
>>>> than
>>>> Aux 5, which you also say is an internal fx send.
>>>> The whole secret is that you don't *need* to use an input  
>>>> intended for
>>>> fx return  to bring an fx back into the mixer.
>>>> Bring them back on a regular channel, and then you can do any  
>>>> additional
>>>> routing with ease
>>>> For full flexibility you need to route the Mixer's FX out of the  
>>>> mixer,
>>>> and bring them back on a regular fx channel. I don't know your  
>>>> specific mixer, so I can't tell you if that's
>>>> possible.
>>>> However, if the internal fx has a send to a particular Aux then  
>>>> just put the EDP on that Aux and you're sorted.
>>>> If the internal fx only go to the main output and nowhere else
>>>> then your only option is to bring the EDP back on Channel 3
>>>> and add your fx onto the dry audio in the looper, that's not
>>>> going to get the exact sound you want in the case that you're  
>>>> looping
>>>> both guitar and voice, but then it's the best you're gonna get.
>>>> andy butler
>>>> Todd Chambeau wrote:
>>>>> Looperz,
>>>>> I am looping just an acoustic guitar and vocal with my echoplex  
>>>>> through a Allen & Heath Mixwizard 16:2.
>>>>> I am utilizing the A&H's dual effects through auxes 5&6.  
>>>>> Basically, giving my acoustic on channel one a slap delay,  
>>>>> vocals on channel 2 with a hall reverb.
>>>>> The A&H's effects are audible until I loop, then the signals  
>>>>> become dry. I would like to have the loops wet.
>>>>> The EDP's input is patched to Aux 5 on the back of the mixer and  
>>>>> the EDP's output is patched to ST1in also on the back of the  
>>>>> mixer.
>>>>> I've tried patching the EDP differently with no luck.
>>>>> I never really utilized the A&H"s effects until now and for the  
>>>>> life of me, I cannot figure this out.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Todd