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Re: looping with albeton live

yeah, i'd like to do the whole Live 8 & Max4Live upgrade from Live 6,
but I just upgraded Logic Studio and I just don't have the bucks! If
Live8 *included* M4L (and instruments as luscious as Logic Studio, and
a great loop browser), it would be reasonable, but this is out of the
park. It's very cool, but I think the Ableton stuff is very

On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com> wrote:
> If only it sounded as good as Mainstage. I love both, and am constantly
> going back and forth. But I hope Ableton continues to develop Looper. 
>Per is
> right, its sync abilities are rock solid.
> On Nov 6, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Per Boysen wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 1:45 PM, roger <roger@brecon.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Looper is set up for remote operation, so you can record, overdub, undo
>>> and
>>> more without touching the computer.
>>> Has anyone any experience of this.
>> Yes, I did it for hours yesterday. Was coaching an artist that is
>> going out to loop his album material plus live instrument using Live
>> 8.
>> Except for the feature your post mention you can also assign pedals to
>> rate shift the loop. That means either transposing pitch one octave up
>> and doubling the speed or transposing pitch one octave down and
>> reducing speed to half the original tempo. If overdubbing new audio
>> into the loop at those extremes the some interesting sound will come
>> out when going back to normal speed/pitch.
>> Another feature is that you can instantly divide or multiply the loop
>> length by 2. It's not possible to divide or multiply by 3 or any other
>> number than 2. When multiplied it simply gets longer by repeating the
>> same chunk of original audio. When divided it cuts out half of the
>> original audio and loops that. If repeating the division by two you
>> can get down to very fast loops down in granular land where everything
>> sounds like pneumatic manufacturing processes.
>> "Reverse" is also possible.
>> All these tricks you do to the loop in the Looper plug-in seems to
>> happen according to the global quantization you run the host Live at.
>> I did not test yesterday, but I think you should be able to create
>> some interesting poly rhythm by jumping between different quantization
>> settings while working the loop in the Looper plug-in.
>> The most powerful feature that comes with the Looper plug-in is that
>> you can set it to calculate the tempo from the first loop you make and
>> then start the host Live as you close the loop. Before Live 8 this has
>> not been possible in any other way than by using a Looper that sends
>> out MIDI Clock that Live follows. This new system is more solid both
>> in the way it sounds and in the meaning of not crashing or "loosing
>> contact with master tempo clock" (hated that error message in pre 8
>> Live)
>> Greetings from Sweden
>> Per Boysen
>> www.boysen.se
>> www.perboysen.com