I'm an EDP guy and love SUS/Replace and SUS/Insert modes, but even with basic loopers, starting with an empty loop, stomp on overdub quickly to create stacatto blips while sustaining long notes. On next pass you'll get a bumpier ride. If you're careful, you can superimpose more blips in the holes with other pitch and timbre values. It's hard to do it super fast, so It won't sound "granular" but it can create interesting chopiness. -- Miko Biffle Biffoz@Gmail.com "Running scared from all the usual distractions!"