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ive always thought competition is great in a lot of areas but when it comes to art and music it seems very ackward to me...is like the many nonsense debates of who is the best hard rock band Black Sabbath, AC DC or Led Zeppelin;-) I guess what turns me off about this boss loopers is the fuction of trying to correct your timing and those drum loops... though you can turn them off and still be really creative no doubt,unfortunetly this are the ones being mass produced and used as such educating the general public to what is called "looping"for a lot of people to understand what looping is you have to layer instrument parts to form a whole band orchestra,and im not putting this down at all,there are people that can really do it fantastic but ive seen so many do it so uncreative "auto corrected" steril and cheap,you really might as well play to preprogramed sequences,it takes less longer;-) www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- Dan Ash <Daniel.Ash@Verizon.net> schrieb am Mo, 3.8.2009: > Von: Dan Ash <Daniel.Ash@Verizon.net> > Betreff: RE: Boss looper contest in Germany > An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Datum: Montag, 3. August 2009, 17:09 > > > > You people were funny at first but now your guffaws of > snobbery and elitist technocratic behaviour are really > starting to take their toll...I mean what are "we" about > here....does it have anything to do with making music? > I am starting to wonder...I guess it has become > unfashionable among the "Technocrati" to loop with a BOSS > pedal...hmmmmm > I haven't been following this thread too closely, but my > impression was that the amusement at the Boss looping > contest was due to several aspects of their support for > looping. The comments here were generally related to > mocking the idea of an olympic-style competition from a > community that largely has moved away from evaluating > looping in terms like those used in the rampant guitar > 'gunslinging' phenomenon. 'Competition' is largely an > anachronism here on LD. > > Over the years Boss product developers have been rather > unresponsive to input from the looping community regarding > the design of their loopers - resulting in three designs > that don't incorporate some of the most important > requirements for looping anything other than accompaniment > of pre-recorded loops, or for a looping paradigm that plays > a static loop over and over. This is true of many/most > of the mass-production looping products (Digidesign is > another company that comes to mind). > > The Boss RC-50 is an improvement but as it turns out, a > feedback control feature was only implemented using a > technique developed and documented by a determined looper > (from this board, I think). My point is that they > produced design after design without supporting any more > than the most simplistic concept of what is actually > available in more sophisticated hardware or in largely free > software loopers. From the top of my list is MIDI > sync, saving a loop on the fly, upload of saved loops, and > the aforementioned feedback control. > So Boss representatives might well be judging contestants > in gunslinging contest using tools supporting a limited > palette -and their designs suggest a lack of some degree of > expertise to boot. > > I think you will find the participants here are overall > very generous with their expertise and focused on making > music. I don't even agree that the members of LD can > be counted on to disparage gear choices of those using other > units than their own. Many wonderful compositions get > posted here from loopers using simple delays, tape machines, > and re-purposed musical toys. > > I think perhaps Akim read too much into a little > light-hearted fun at Boss's expense. > > Dan Ash > White Plains, NY > >