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Re: OT: why no love for noel redding?




i think people didnt love him because he looks like Bob Dylans grandma as 
jimmy hendrix always introduced him


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--- On Wed, 3/18/09, E Gross <slapbandjam@yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: E Gross <slapbandjam@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: OT: why no love for noel redding?
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 6:28 AM
> "Little Miss Strange"
> is a nice bit of '60s pop just warped enough to not get
> any radio airplay..........written by Noel Redding
>  
> The album it is on, "Electric LadyLand" is
> in my top 5 list.....
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Douglas
> Baldwin <coyotelk@optonline.net>
> To: Miko
> Biffle <biffoz@gmail.com>;
> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Sent:
> Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:49:08 AM
> Subject: Re:
> OT: why no love for noel redding?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yo crew - 
>     I
> think poor Noel got the short straw for a number of reasons.
> IIRC, he joined the Experience with promises of becoming a
> guitar player in the band and having his own songs recorded.
> So he was a frustrated guitar player stuck on bass. Then
> he's playing with two of the greatest players ever -
> Hendrix and Mitchell. And can you name one song he wrote
> besides "She's So Fine?" Then he's
> drugging and drinking and groupie-ing like only a young male
> in his 20's in the late 60's could, alongside Mr. H,
> who would out drug/drink/grope everyone right up to his
> death. And the band was being hyped as THE GREATEST THING
> SINCE JESUS and they were being tossed into grinding
> tours with mismanaged money and riots outside the
> concert halls.... So poor Noel just couldn't keep up on
> any front - musicianship, songwriting, excessive lifestyle,
> crappy business.
>     And
> Miko, yeah, Jimi was one of the sloppiest players going at
> times. Again, it was par for the course. But man, give me
> "Machine Gun" at the Fillmore! Jimi changed our
> DNA. Sometimes I cry when I think of his dying.
> 
>    
> 
> Music is going to break the way because music is in a
> spiritual thing of its own. It's like the waves of the
> ocean. You can't just cut out the perfect wave and take
> it home with you. 
> -- Jimi Hendrix 
>  
> Wave on, wave
> on....
> 
> Douglas Baldwin
> Alpha Coyote
> coyotelk@optonline.net
> www.TheCoyote.org
>  
> "The purpose of music is to sober and quiet the
> mind, thus rendering it suseptible to divine
> influences."
> -- Thomas Mace (17th century), transmitted to Gita
> Sarabhai, as told to John Cage
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> From: Miko
> Biffle 
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, March
> 17, 2009 5:32 PM
> Subject: Re: OT: why
> no love for noel redding?
> 
> This has nothing to do with my personal feelings for
> Noel—it's impersonal.  It doesn't matter who
> played the parts (but I guess the player had to have a name,
> so I used it.)  Realize that I LOVE the entire band and
> have unbelieveable, life-changing memories surrounding my
> first-hand witness of the music.  (Meaning I was there
> to see it—first tour, second tour) But when I sit down in
> front of the monitors and listen, I have perceptions I'm
> not going to ignore due to personal bias.
> 
> There are always considerations regarding how one ended up
> with xyz (whatever results followed)—but the resulting
> document still has specific sonic qualities.  Just my
> humble, honest opinion.  Would it be safe to say
> Hendrix was sometimes a very sloppy player?  *-) 
> (Ducking NOW!)
> 
> To cleanse any sullifying damage my sacriligous statements
> may have caused, I command you all to go home and watch
> "Jimi Plays
>  Berkeley" tonight and revel in absolutely amazing,
> skronky, beautific, Hendrix bliss.  Be sure to add
> plenty of your favorite beverage or potion..  -m
> 
> 
> On 3/17/09, scott hansen <evanpeewee@yahoo.com>
> wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> wow-i read this and thought "why no love for
> noel?" he was a young kid (early 20's if?) who
> thought he was auditioning for the new animals (house of the
> rising son), and got thrown in the world of JHE. i thought
> he was a good bass player for the experience. yes, i know
> there are arguments on the 2nd & 3rd albums that jimi
> played a lot of the bass stuff (i'm not up on my
> everything jimi did history in the last 10 yrs or so), but
> give the guy a break. he was just playing the bass in the
> band, he wasn't responsible for the recording and
> mixing. WHEN I LISTEN TO MY TAPES THAT ARE OVER 20 yrs old,
> IT ALL SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. when i still listen to this now
> that i've hit mid 40s-i'm amazed at the maturity of
> the writing and the adventurous nature of the music-all done
> by 3 guys who were still in their early 20s (and remember
> the lead singer/composer-was a HS dropout, and a product of
> 50's era education-& he was african american-a lot
> of the odds
>  were against him!). that, and the fact that the guy got
> shafted for his part of what he contributed, and he died a
> few yrs ago at such a young age (wasn't he in he
> mid-late 50's?) cut him some slack please!
> end of my rant...
> s---
>  
> Maybe my beef is with Noel Redding specifically? I can
> listen to Zep, 
> > Sabbath and many others on vinyl and feel the bass is
> adequate (for 
> > the day)—I just don't find Redding's bass
> that satisfying. Mitch 
> > Mitchell OTOH ranks right up there with Bonham in my
> book! -m
> 
> -- 
> Miko Biffle
> Biffoz@Gmail.com
> MBiffle@FoxRacingShox.com
> "Running scared from all the usual distractions!"
> 
> 
> 
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