I'm getting a pair of cargo pants tomorrow - sounds like the flying looper's trouser of choice! I love the thought of belting those pants with wrapped cables, but isn't that a big pain to take off for the x-ray machines? And have I just been unaware of scales at check-in for carry-on stuff? Is that happening in Europe but not the States as yet? I've definitely had more than 10 kg before. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > One thing I do is to wear trousers with huge pockets on the legs. My > rather heavy soundcard fits well into one such pocket. All things you > pack into your pockets will not tax your weight in luggage and by > picking the heaviest stuff for pockets you save loads of money from > over weight fees. I've even been flying with lots of midi and audio > cabled used as "belt" for my trousers, another way to save money. > > The cabin baggage is usually allowed at maximum eight or ten kilo > weight. But since you are obliged to take out the laptop anyway at the > check-in it won't be on the scales with the rest of the stuff - so you > may safely plan your exact cabin bag weight MINUS laptop weight.