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Re: Fwd: here and now / evolving loops



You could always use the replace function on your EDP to replace the 
defining tones (single tone or otherwise), if say, you were playing a 
broken 
chord or some other voicing/arpeggiation. It's always the fun part of 
looping for me. Keeping it tonally interesting..

Merry Christmas, Happy holidays etc..

Ricky


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Daryl Shawn" <highhorse@mhorse.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 7:26 PM
Subject: Re: Fwd: here and now / evolving loops


> Lessee...yeah, the Chinapainting track "Isle of Exile" has an example of 
> the switch from minor to relative major. It's in a pretty well-defined 
> minor for the first 5 minutes. Then Jim started doing some looped slides 
> that were a bit more major in feel, so I started slowly switching to the 
> relative major, in high extensions, fading out the minor bass. By 7:30 
>or 
> so, the major key is pretty much established, and we ride that out to 
>the 
> end of the tune.
>
> Sorry, I don't have an mp3 handy, but I'll see if I can get one together 
> for you this weekend. Or, it's on eMusic and Rhapsody, as well as Amazon 
> and iTunes - search for "Night Blooming Cereus" which is the album 
>title. 
> It's the second track.
>
> Also, "Cut Away the Stone" from my "Rentintwain" CD is an example of 
>going 
> from atonality into a defined minor key, then switching to the relative 
> major and doing some other shifting all in the same key. It's long - 12 
> minutes - and around seven minutes in, I start moving towards a tonal 
> chord, slowly fading out the atonal stuff. At 8:20, I hit the relative 
> major of that minor chord. At 9:00 or so, I start playing some other 
> chordal fragments, implying other chords. You can stream that one here: 
> http://www.swanwelder.com/jukebox/cutawaythestone/index.html
>
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>
>
>> Daryl, is there a specific instance of you doing this up someplace? I 
>> would love to hear it!
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daryl Shawn" <highhorse@mhorse.com>
>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 1:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: Fwd: here and now / evolving loops
>>
>>
>>> This is an interesting discussion.
>>>
>>> It's true, Fabio, many looping artists tend to stay fixed on a tonal
>>> center. One simple trick I've found is to make a sudden or gradual
>>> change to a different chord in the same key. The most obvious is to go
>>> to the relative major or minor, so if it's been a heavy E minor groove,
>>> I'll start feeding in G major triads. It can create some real drama,
>>> while allowing an established loop to continue. It's not hard to switch
>>> back and forth, especially if you replace the lowest part of your loops
>>> (whatever serves as your "bass").
>>>
>>> More dramatically, I'll lay groundwork for an actual key change by
>>> inserting bits of very nontonal, undefined stuff, slowly obliterating
>>> the previous key center. When the previous key has disappeared in a
>>> nontonal mess, I'll start a new one, replacing the nontonal stuff with
>>> inside material. Coming from chaos to a defined key center can work
>>> really nicely.
>
>
>
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