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Re: Live vs Bidule



On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:23 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> 
wrote:

> Logic (awaiting Perīs recomendation already)

Ok, since you brought it up ;-)  But get the Pro Studio 8 version so
you won't be disappointed later on. ReWire syncing Reason channels
directly into Logics mixer is now very simple with L8. This is a great
combo that many use. Logic is easy to get around for "composer type"
of guys that want to start the music at the left margin and write
their way to the right margin and being able to see it all as a time
line on the screen and maybe cycle a certain part to work on the
musical details in a microscope way. I think Logic Pro 8 Studio is the
most all round package among these three because you don't need
anything more. It comes with the biggest sample/canned loops library
too (if you are so inclined). Oh, one thing that really hooks me to
Logic is its global micro tonal tuning: as long as you use the
built-in instruments you can chose any micro tonal tuning and key and
all those wonderful instruments will instantly retune to play back
your piece in the new tuning. I can spend hours just playing back
synth music I have made just for the fun of exploring how it sounds in
Juste Tuning, 12-tone Pythagorean, in Bulgarian Bag Pipe Tuning or in
Chinese Lu scale by Huai Nan Zi, Han era (P. Amiot 1780, Kurt
Reinhart). There's also different kinds of Hermode Tuning available,
which is what a choire or string quartet may use since each note is
performed with a slightly different intonation by each player
depending on what note the other players are playing at that
particular moment in time - the goal being to create as full sounding
chords as possible in every part of the piece (which is not possible
with tempered or fixed tuning).

For those looking for a great arpeggiator Logic is not good
alternative. Better ARP in both Live and Pro Tools (the Transfuser
add-on plug-in)


> ProTools (have used a bit before - industry standard, so I would learn a
> useful package)

Pro Tools 8 is coming out soon, december/january. Digidesign is now
pulling the same trick Apple did with Logic 8; offering lots of,
formerly expensive add-on, effect and virtual instrument plug-ins
bundled with the application. So if you're going for PT now, make sure
you can upgrade to PT 8 on the ticket. With ProTools, you need to get
an audio interface that is passed by Digidesign. The M-Audio boxes
work great with ProTools but users have had problems with them in
other applications (especially the less expensive interfaces). Pro
Tools and Logic are very similar. In the past I have found Logic
easier to use but this may change when PT 8 comes out, as the rumors
have it.


> Live (Is this a "proper" multi-track recorder - mainly drawn to it cos it
> seems very er... cool, and possible to do some ker-razy stuff too)

I agree. Live is fun and creative. It draws on the MPC concept, where
you cycle looped chunks of audiio or MIDI "in pattern mode" and then
chain it together into the final composition "in song mode". Many
users are very happy with the combo Reason ReWired into Live. But
although I have used Live a lot I have never been able to make a mix
sound as good in Live as is possible in Logic (or ProTools if you
invest in additional plug-ins).

All the best

Per
(staying in this friday night listening to "Doomed: Dark music for
tortured souls [SomaFM]")