Re: is using Pre-recorded Loops Cheating

[Chris Sewell <lunamusic@mac.com>]

Yeah, and Miles Davis never had a "look at me" attitude. (Sarcasm)
On May 19, 2008, at 5:13 PM, John McIntyre wrote:

> Buzap Buzap wrote:
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>> I'm pleased to see that I've hit the nerve with this subject :-))
>>
>> I would like to add one more thing to this comment:
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>> I believe that the last sentence is only half the truth. True: It  
>> is the artist's task to "reach the unreachable".
>>
> OK, sorry, but my English major side is poking through here.  I  
> think you mean "It is the artist's task to "reach for the  
> unreachable", as, by definition, one cannot reach the unreachable.   
> Or, as a far better poet than I once said (and I fully expect the  
> list to be inundated with people who can remember which poet it was  
> (-8): "A man's reach must 'er exceed his grasp, or what's a heaven  
> for?"
>
>> Howeever, if you are a _performing_ artist, the goal is different.  
>> I believe even Miles Davis - who has been known for a certain  
>> dislike of his audience -, when playing in a bar etc, would only  
>> be satisfied if there would be at least one person in the audience  
>> he could reach with his music.
>>
> Ah, but how could he tell?  His performances vastly touched me and  
> influenced my music in so many ways, but how could he tell?  I'm a  
> jive-ass honky, and my reaction to an epiphany (which Miles  
> delivered at several concerts) is a dumbfounded, slackjawed "let me  
> go think about this for a millenia or so".  Yeah, I was on my feet  
> clapping, but he got that much when he simply walked on stage.  And  
> there is the question that while I can see his influence on my  
> music, would he recognize it?  And if he did recognize it, would he  
> want to acknowledge it? (0-8
>
> Sorry, I'm not sure what my point was.  It's just that any mention  
> of Miles Davis pushes my buttons. (-8
>
> John McIntyre
> mcintyre@pa.msu.edu
>
>> So, I think as _performing_ artists, you need to be in touch both  
>> with the "heavens/unreachable/unkown/creative force..." as well as  
>> the ordinariy people in your audience. If you just focus on one of  
>> these two, you will be either a bitter, unrecognized genius in his  
>> own musical world or a plain ego booster putting his narcissistic  
>> self into display.
>> But playing for an audience, pleasing them, being in touch with  
>> them is - with the right attitude and vision - not about a big ego  
>> but about a big HEART.
>>
>> My most significant exprience on this was this:
>> I used to push my muscic more into complexity, speed, wild  
>> rhythms, sophistication. Then coincidentally, I bought a live  
>> recording of Elizabeth Cotten. She was already very old on the  
>> recording and singing with a cracked voice. But she was a lovely  
>> woman, telling a story to her audience and TOUCHING the hearts of  
>> people.
>>
>> http://youtube.com/watch?v=Tm5-WdB_aVE
>>
>> This has changed my musical life.
>> And I would always trade a [add your favorite rock/jazz/fusion  
>> virtuoso here] solo to a simple song of hers.
>>
>> Buzap
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