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Re: is using Pre-recorded Loops Cheating



So using loops within hardware is ok, but using loops with a computer  
(Ableton?) is not?

On May 19, 2008, at 6:14 AM, Goddard, Duncan wrote:

> agreed, daryl. shut your eyes & listen to a CD of what they used to
> sound like.... if you have another CD player & a disc of "club
> interior-night-time" sound effects, you could almost be at a gig.
>
> I put the dull repetitive stuff in a sequencer, & write patches with a
> bit of random life in them (to emulate analogue synths, for  
> instance, I
> send random modulations to the pitch & filter, while tiny  
> variations in
> the note-on timing liven up the sequences a bit. this is all possible
> within the old emu modules). we use pre-recorded loops because we're a
> three-piece, & thus only have six hands. selfishly, we keep the most
> interesting parts to ourselves, & use the loopers (repeater, RC-1
> amongst others) for loops that were once improvised but have since
> become integral to a composition.
>
> playing CDs (or using a computer, IMO- our sequencers are hardware, &
> more akin to drumboxes) is dishonest & furthermore, is asking for
> trouble of a technical nature. but that's just my opinion. :-)
>
>
>
>
>>> This may be the subtlest snark I've ever read.
>
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>
>> I saw Cluster last night at the Detroit Institute of the Arts and
>> nearly all their sounds were prerecorded.  They each had a
>> synthesizer, but those were seldom used.  Most of the sounds came  
>> from
> their four CD players.
>>
>> But it was not "just press play and sit back".  You could see  
>> Rodelius
>
>> flipping through his CD collection, deciding which disc to slip in
> next.
>>
>> But if you closed your eyes, it sounded like the music they used to
>> make with a room full of gear.
>
>
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