Re: Jungle beatz (WAS is using Pre-recorded Loops Cheating)

["Byron Howell" <howell.byron@gmail.com>]

Jojo mayer and his Work with the band nerve spring to mind
A great drummer who really mastered the technique of imitating d n b
style live. There debut album is set for release this year. looking
forward to that


On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:
> I love this so much. It's a fascinating example of the give-and-take 
>between
> technology and human musicians, in this case working the opposite 
>direction
> from the norm. People use the limitless capabilities of machines to 
>create
> things hitherto impossible or unthought of by human drummers, and while 
>I'm
> not necessarily a jungle fan, I adore the result when a human then 
>emulates
> the style. Tom Rainey will do this sometimes, on Torn's "Prezens" for
> example. There's also a guy I went to music school with named Johnny Rabb
> (the "fastest drummer in the world", supposedly) who shows obvious 
>influence
> from the machines in his setup and style.
>
> I gotta hear your kit!
>
> There's something elusively distinctive about the jungle beats I'm still
> trying to figure out. What is it, technically speaking? The asymmetrical
> rests, combined with extremely fast groups? I mentioned Veronica May last
> week (http://www.myspace.com/veronicamay), she has a tune called 
>Sandpaper
> that manages to evoke the feel within a bar, just tapping on a guitar 
>body.
>
> On the other topic, I'm listening to Reich's "It's Gonna Rain" right now 
>on
> headphones...a near-static loop...that completely fascinates.
>
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>
>> I have just loved that the technique of forward thinking drummers in
>> recent years has soared because they have purposefully tried to emulate 
>the
>> seemingly impossible computer cutups of styles like Jungle and D and B.
>>
>> Indeed,  I have worked hard on creating a drumset that has three tiny
>> (6",8",10"= snares, 8" hihats and  little 12" and 14" kick drums on one 
>side
>> (to emulate pitching up a drumset an octave on a sampler) and a 26" 
>kick,
>> huge 16" hi hats and a deep 10" X 14" 'coliseum' snare drum,  all tuned
>> extremely flabby and flat to simulate pitching a drumset down an octave
>> (jungle meets half speed trip hop).
>>
>> Even trying to emulate a drum machine perfectly is fun for me because 
>I'm
>> a human being and can't do it.   It's just fascinating to me the really
>> minor imperfections that occur when attempting to do something silly 
>like
>> this.
>
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