Re: Echoplex -- Wanted: The optimum way to synch with the rhythmsection or vice versa

[Claude Voit <c.voit@vtx.ch>]

hi

yes there is a tech solution and you'll get all you can need thru this 
list but
for me it is another problem. some questions

1-is the Rhythm Section ready to play with loops?

2-is the RS willing to work their musicianship level up to the task. It 
can take time until it they can play to/with your loops

3-do they like the idea to play against/follow your loops?

4-what do you put in the loop? what type of musical texture are you 
looping ?

5- how is your monitoring setup? can you improve it with the gear you 
already have?

in short, its not always vise to search for a tech/gear solution when 
there could be a musical, musicianship, simpler solution
rehearse, rehearse, rehearse, experiment.
There are a lot of bands that loop without complicated syncing schemes, 
so its possible.

but you'll get tech answers from the list a plenty

gooddluck

Claude

PS: you just got an echoplex this is a very deep instrument be patient 
and work the manual up down up and work your pedalmanship











Lavaspin a écrit :
> Dear esteemed loopers:
> 
> What's the best way to stay synched with my rhythm
> section when using the Echoplex?
> 
> I've scanned the archives (and the manual) and can't
> seem to find what I'm looking for regarding synching,
> although I'm sure it's there -- just in a form I can
> decipher. I just got a new Echoplex (yes the
> Musician's Friend sale), I had a Digitech Jamman
> before. We were trying the Jamman in live situations
> and it had its limits (for example, the rhythm section
> had a hard time hearing the first loop, even if I
> added only one overdub), so I have upgraded. I'm a
> guitar player more than a techie, so please help me
> understand the best -- and simplest -- way to stay
> synched. I will usually lay down only one loop so that
> I can play lead over a rhythm part -- so a fairly
> simple and clean way to use the Echoplex. Here are the
> three general options I see for assuring we, the band,
> stay synched. Which of the following three would you
> suggest is best for the Echoplex in the live setting?
> 
> 1. First idea: Have some kind of machine (what kind is
> best/simplest?) acting as a metronome. The machine
> sends a click to the drummer and the bass player, who
> maybe use in the ear monitors. The machine also sends
> a click to the Echoplex and keeps it in time with the
> machine. If this is the option you suggest, which of
> synch options do I use on the Echoplex -- I got
> confused by all the variations. 
> 
> 2. Second idea: Basically the reverse of the above. I
> lay down a loop and it sends an eighth note click to
> in the ear monitors, so they rhythm section stays in
> time with the loop.
> 
> 3. Third idea: Somehow split the first loop from the
> overdubs, so that I can have a monitor (standard or in
> the ear, since no click involved) for the drummer and
> bass player that is playing only the first loop so
> they can clearly hear it.
> 
> I realize this is really basic or has been covered
> before. I appreciate anyone who can help me out with this.
> 
> 
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