Re: AW: Electro-Harmonix MM w/Hazarai

[andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>]

Daryl Shawn wrote:
> Whoa...is there time-stretching, apart from pitch? Or are you referring 
> to the simultaneous pitch/time shifting?

Yes, it will time stretch at normal pitch,
...or it will do the simultaneous pitch time thing.
Not both though.


> 
> Artifacts = yummy!

and when you overdub on a time stretched loop you get double the 
artifacts. 

> 
> I didn't realize it had reverb. I'm never too interested in that but if 
> it's crappy and "mushy" as you say I might find it useful.

It's a rather long reverb, and is somewhat obviously digital.

It's intended just to diffuse one of the echo settings, but can also 
be got on it's own with a bit of tweaking.


> 
> Too bad about the batteries.
> 
> thanks, Andy -

you're welcome

andy

> 
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> www.chinapaintingmusic.com
>> Rainer pretty much covers the subject here, so I'll just add a couple 
>> of points
>>
>> Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote:
>>> Short summary: got one, don't really need it (had already two looper
>>> stompboxes), but didn't return it.
>>>
>>> Slightly longer version:
>>> There are three things that suck:
>>>     1. varispeed is only available for the looper, not for the delays
>>>     2. you have to hold down one footswitch for recording/overdubbing
>>> (not so much of a problem if you're wearing shoes)
>>
>> I don't have any problem without shoes, but it's a somewhat clunky way 
>> to make a loop and not so easy to get it accurate
>>
>>>     3. no independent mix control for looper and delay
>>
>> In general you can either control the delays, or the loop, but not both.
>> You can't stop the Loop without turning off the delays.
>>
>>>     4. only delays up to 3 seconds
>>
>> and tap time won't go up to the full 3s
>>
>> 5. Won't run on batteries
>> 6. To re-record a loop the process is hit Bypass, hold Tap for 500mS 
>> or more, hit Bypass, then make the new loop.
>> 7. Time stretching is full of artefacts ( could be a plus )
>>
>> 8. Reverb (which can be got on it's own) is digital mush (again, could 
>> ba a plus)
>>
>>>
>>> Well, 2 is not so much of a letdown, and for 4 I already got the 
>>> DD20, but 1
>>> and 3 are.
>>>
>>> Nice things:
>>>     1. you can varispeed the loop
>>>     2. lowpass/highpass (which sits in the feedback for the delays, but
>>> unfortunately in the output path for the looper)
>>>     3. you can adjust feedback level while overdubbing (EDPers call 
>this
>>> "secondary feedback")
>>
>> EDPers call it feedback, "secondary feedback" is a Mobius term
>>
>>
>>>     4. small package
>>
>> 5. "Instant Reverse" : just hold "tap" and you hear what you just 
>> played coming out backwards for up to 6s( as an alternative to the 
>> loop). This function alone makes the pedal worthwhile, great for band 
>> use.
>>
>> 6.Reverse echo is capable of some interesting textures.
>>
>> 7. Can be persuaded to be a flanger or chorus with a bit of effort.
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