Re: EDP incoming MIDI Clock filtering options?

["Per Boysen" <per@boysen.se>]

You're right Matthias, this should be discussed on the looping list -
so we're answering there now.

You're probably right that Samuel's EDP loses slave sync while in
Overdub Mode. I remember Jeff was talking about this on the Mobiuse
list too; that the audio engine must be somewhat "free-wheeling" in
regards to the incoming sync signal while in overdub mode.

They are playing against a master sync that goes in 120 BPM and for
some songs the half tempo locally, meaning that each player "thinks"
60 BPM while playing.

Don't worry. I think it might be the feedback or overdub thing... We
just discovered that his FCB pedal not always goes back to maximum
MICI CC# sent (value 127). This means that his feedback is active and
as I understand it - syncing is made impossible?

Per
(and Samuel Andersson)



On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Matthias Grob <matigrob@gmail.com> wrote:
> Per,
>
>
>  On 7 Mar 2008, at 11:03, andy butler wrote:
>
>  > Hi Per, I don't think the EdP can do the the filtering,
>  > but I haven't midi-synced since we all played together at Mathon
>  > .... let's ask the experts ;-)
>  >
>  >
>  > Maybe the problem is that he's pressing Rec in the wrong place.
>  > Or needs to use Quantise (but I'm not sure about that at all)
>  >
>  > andy
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > -------- Original Message --------
>  > Subject: EDP incoming MIDI Clock filtering options?
>  > Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 12:26:24 +0100
>  > From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
>  > To: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk
>  >
>  > Hi Andy,
>  >
>  > A friend is playing with a cirkus and he is starting to get the
>  > shivers these days because more music with this Cirkus tends to rely
>  > on his EDP and it sometimes loses sync with the Akai MPC1000 he uses
>  > as the master.
>
>  the moments it syncs are visible as a dot of the display. so he will
>  have to observe what he does then.
>  I suspect either overdub is on or fb is reduced, as long as the loop
>  changes it cannot sync
>
>
>  > Another problem, that occur at a different event, is that the EDP
>  > "places the start point at the wrong part of the cycle". In this
>  > project they run the master clock at 120 BPM but for different parts
>  > of the piece the musicians play half that tempo (meaning 60 BPM) and
>  > sometimes they play two thirds tempo (90 BPM).
>
>  there is a function to move the start point
>  and to select the speed in relation to the master
>  but 2/3 of the tempo ??
>
>
>  > My advice, based on "that's what I would have done in Bidule", is to
>  > filter out the SongStart command and bar position data from the master
>  > MIDI Clock signal. Now, the question for you: Do the EDP have a way of
>  > filtering out that?
>
>  I dont think it watches that if you dont want to. you can start Record
>  anytime and it will use that as beat one and round to the full tempo
>  and go on in that pattern...
>
>  So I pretty much agree with Andys analysis  :-)
>
>  shouldnt this talk happen on LD or a more specific forum?
>
>  and maybe with the person who has the problem?
>
>  greetings from Brasil
>  Matthias
>
>
> >
>  >
>  > --
>  > Greetings from Sweden
>  >
>  > Per Boysen
>  > www.boysen.se (Swedish)
>  > www.looproom.com (international)
>  >
>
>



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