I use the dl4 just for the delay models, in stereo with an expression pedal, fed into 2 EDPs. I like it a lot just for the delay models, particularly reverse. I wish that it had a more reliable tap tempo though, and quieter switches. A second expression pedal out would be cool as well. ~Greg -----Original Message----- From: Rick Walker [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 12:51 PM To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting) Subject: WHAT DON'T YOU LIKE ABOUT YOUR LOOPER(S) Matt Davignon wrote, about the Line 6 DL-4: "Of all the people I know who use this unit, only 2 use the delay modelers more than the looper." Frankly, I don't know ANYONE who uses the DL-4 as a delay modeller unless it's in conjunction with another DL:-4 as a looper, but then again, we both tend to hang out with musicians who are really 'out of the box' and who are very, very creative. The guy at Line 6 practically laughed at me when I started talking to him about adding features at NAMM several years ago. He said the looping function was just thrown in as an afterthought and that it was guitar players who bought the pedal for delays who made up 95% of their clientelle. Now, it suddenly occurs to me, years later, that he was just sick and tired of people with suggestions for improvements that one gets at NAMM and he was just brushing me off, but who knows.