Re: OT Jazz tone...transition to fusion tone and amp sim

["Krispen Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net>]

Thanks, Andy.  Yes, the presense of the guitar and mix with everything 
else 
wasn't at all what I wanted, but I didn't have time to re-do it.  Later, I 
went through my max system and discovered some major gain staging 
problems, 
which fixed part of the problem. I think by itself, the guitar just solo 
for 
30 seconds or so would have been fine to illustrate the VST amp sim.  I'll 
try  your test below, with the 12th fret, on this VST.

Kris



> 1) a lot of what is "tone" comes from the player. In that respect it's 
> pretty good :-)
> 2) Isn't that sound "medium gain" rather than high gain, although I 
>guess 
> it's gain
>   enough for the test? ( oh, and it's Jazz, not HM :-)
> 3) it's a nice sound, perhaps a bit fatiguing after a while. 4) to me, 
>it 
> lacked presence, which was more obvious after the "drums" came in. 
>Perhaps 
> that's just eq you used afterwards. It's those "air" frequencies which 
>are 
> hard to get right with digital.
> 5) Sounds "like an amp" when it first comes in.
>
> I've done some work on programming for distortions, so perhaps I should 
> share some my findings:-
> 1) Digital distortion tends to create a lot of unwanted frequencies 
> (aliasing). This can be fixed by doing something called "oversampling". 
> Unfortunately oversampling usually uses up a lot of processor power, and 
> tends to introduce latency. The extra latency is only (typically) 1-2mS, 
> but of course that adds on to the latency you're dealing with already.
> 2) A good way to test a digi-distortion with guitar is to play a high 
>note 
> ( top E at 12fret)and bend it. With the gain up high it's then easy to 
> hear the aliasing.
> 3) As Kris mentions, higher gain settings show up the limitations more, 
>as 
> does a more trebly eq placed before the distortion.
>
> andy butler
> ..now, wouldn't this be a good thread for the LDOT :-)
>