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RE: loop sync semantics

Right .... we are of the same thinking here .....

With "latching mode" .. what I am looking for is to begin recording midway 
through the master .... at some arbitrary point ... but then quantizing 
loop to be some multiple of the masters length.

such as ..

>  So if TrackSync=Loop, you would always create a second
>loop that was an exact multiple of the master loop.

so it sounds like the EDP can do that .......??

When "stopping" and "starting" the loop position relative to the master is 
noted .... and in latching mode it restarts (or unmutes .. really it would 
be the same thing) at the same location that you initially recorded it ....

so .... if you have an instrumental song, the melody of which is only one 
measure long (same length as the master, that is) .... but comes in on ... 
say ... the third beat of that one measure ......... well then we would 
this track to unmute itself only at the right time (third beat) ..... so 
need to be able to record it as being exactly the same length as the 
but coming in at some particular offset ......... so when you want that 
melody to pop in ... you hit "start" or "unmute" .... and it comes in at 
right time.

Sound like .......

>   MuteMode=Run
>     The loop is retriggered from the location it had when
>     was first muted.

works for this, as long as you mute it at the right location .......

>From: "Jeff Larson" <jeff.larson@sailpoint.com>
>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>Subject: RE: loop sync semantics
>Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 22:18:22 -0500
>Your "Full sync" mode is similar to what Mobius would call "Track Sync"
>where the start and end of the recording are "quantized" to a location
>in the master loop.  The quantization point may either be the beginning
>of the master loop, a cycle within the loop, or a subcycle within the 
>It is usually accurate to think of a cycle as a measure and a subcycle
>as a beat.  So if TrackSync=Loop, you would always create a second
>loop that was an exact multiple of the master loop.
>I'm not sure I understand your "Latching" mode.  To make a loop
>that is exactly the same size as the master loop, but begin recording
>at any point within the master loop, you could use the "Track Copy"
>parameter set to "Timing".  Here, when you select an empty track,
>it initializes it with an empty loop of the same size as the master
>loop, then enters Overdub mode.  For example if the master track
>was 4 seconds long, TrackCopy=Timing, and you selected the next track
>at second 2 of the master track, you would instantly get an empty loop
>of 4 seconds on the next track, then begin overdubbing into it at
>second 2.  The tracks would remain in sync, and the audio in the
>second track would be at the same relative location to the master
>track if you retriggered them at the same time.
>There is no built-in way to have a normal Record operation start
>immediately (with TrackSync=off) but still quantize the end of the
>recording so that the loop is exactly one multiple of the master loop.
>You could do this in scripts though.  This seems to be closer to your
>latching mode.  But I'm confused by this statement:
>   "The advantage here is that later when you stop playback of
>    the second loop, and then start it again, it will know to begin
>    playing at a particular location during the masters playback"
>In Mobius, tracks are not technically stopped and started, they
>are muted and unmuted.  When you mute a track, it continues
>"playing" silently so that the loop position keeps advancing
>relative the master track.  When you unmute, there are several
>possible behaviors depending on the Mute Mode parameter.
>   MuteMode=Continuous
>     The loop is unmuted from the current location.
>   MuteMode=Start
>     The loop is retriggered from the beginning.
>   MuteMode=Run
>     The loop is retriggered from the location it had when
>     was first muted.
>Once a master loop and a slave loop are knocked out of alignment,
>you can bring them back into alignment with a Realign function which
>has several options.

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