Re: mp3 clip posted

[Brian Kupferschmid <apparitionapparition@yahoo.com>]

wow, that's a lot of gear, sounds very expensive.  At
the moment, becaue I play in a conventional band, I'm
working on getting my computer set up armed with the
latest version of Cubase so I can record our album.  I
tend to play some keys, so I would be using the MIDI
to play the VST organ and synths.  I'd love to put
together a band of sorts, involving an electronic
percussionist, and a keyboard player, and I'd loop
between guitar and bass.  Anyway, you definitely know
how to make it work, you do good stuff.
--- Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:

> >  http://www.looproom.com/aol/01_Patterns.mp3
> 
> 
> On 8 mar 2007, at 18.36, Brian Kupferschmid wrote:
> 
> > I noticed that, I also was caught up in the beat. 
> If
> > I'm not mistaken, I thought I heard a bit of
> LaFosse
> > influence in there, must be the EDP functions and
> your
> > use of them.   Again, incredible stuff, sounds
> like
> > I'd better save my pennies and get an EDP, because
> > after hearing that, sounds like nothing else will
> do.
> > How did you run the wah pedal?  It sounds like a
> > filter instead of a regular wah sound, like you
> ran it
> > through an effects loop rather than pre input,
> well
> > being that you were probably miked, that's about
> the
> > only way to do it.  My current pedalboard has two
> wahs
> > on it one is post preamp for that filtery sound. 
> When
> > I finally can immerse myself into looping, I
> thought
> > about the possibility to use loopers throughout my
> > chain, for instance, one up front, so that my
> effects
> > can process the loop, and then one in back to
> capture
> > it for layering of tracks. How do you run your
> chain
> > for your set up?
> 
> 
> You're asking how I'm running my chain for "my set
> up", but fact is  
> that the "Patterns" piece was not produced with the
> live concert set  
> up I'm using today (I use a couple, actually), so I
> need to deal with  
> the questions on at a time. This "Patterns" was a
> live looping EDP  
> improvisation that were recorded in a studio. That
> environment gives  
> you more control than performing live on stage. The
> studio routing  
> was as this:
> 
> - Sax mic were split into two parallel lines.
> - One sax signal going into one track on a
> multitrack recorder (Logic  
> Pro on a computer with many audio inputs).
> - Another sax signal going into the EDP.
> - The EDP loop output going into another track on
> the multitrack  
> recorder.
> - The tempo set in Logic and the EDP syncing by MIDI
> clock.
> - A Behringer FCB1010 MIDI pedal board was used for
> controlling the EDP.
> - A software wha pedal simulation was opened on the
> Logic track where  
> the direct sax was recorded (so the wha would not
> affect the audio  
> looped on the EDP). I used the FCB1010's expression
> pedal to work  
> that wha filter (yes, you are correct that I set it
> more as a filter  
> than as the usual Cry Baby or Vox wha simulation
> patches.
> 
> Ok, those were the routings. So when playing I
> recorded two mono  
> tracks: direct sax signal and EDP loops. Two other
> tracks were  
> already recorded: Speach and percussion. I was
> listening to these as  
> guidance for my improvisation. Functions used in the
> EDP were  
> Overdub, SUSSubstitute (I guess that is the
> character you have heard  
> in André LaFosse music), Speed and direct addressing
> of the three loops.
> 
> Finally, the recorded track of the EDP loops were
> split up in Logic  
> to enter many different dynamic filterbanks. As I
> remember a bunch of  
> Ohmforce Quadfrohmage. The pad like sound (where the
> sax is going for  
> a long note and the percussion stops) was created in
> the mix by  
> sending the sax signal (not the EDP looping) through
> some Cycling74  
> Pluggo effects (Rye and SpeedShifter, I think).
> 
> So the effect processing were not done all the way
> at the moment of  
> playing the looper and instrument.
> 
> -----------------
> > How do you run your chain
> > for your set up?
> 
> If that addresses a live concert set up (guessing so
> because you  
> mentioned your two wha pedal live setup) I'm doing
> it much more  
> simple these days. Instrument going into an effect
> processor going  
> into a laptop going into an analog stereo compressor
> going into the  
> PA system. The laptop is loaded with Mobius (which
> in essence is a  
> bunch of virtual stereo EDPs with a lot added
> functionality) and a  
> little bit of reverb added to the looper output.
> Mobius is picking up  
> the tempo I play in (by the length of the first loop
> I make) and also  
> sending out MIDI Clock to my effect processor (so I
> can sync or  
> desync delays and rhythmical filtering etc). I like
> this set up  
> because it works well with flute, sax, guitar and
> EWI played with the  
> built-in sounds.
> 
> The http://www.looproom.com/audio/abc.mp3 though was
> not done on that  
> set up but on the laptop only, running Guitar Rig 2
> into Mobius. I  
> don't like the sound of Guitar Rig 2 so I don't
> think I will use it  
> more.
> 
> A third se up is playing MIDI with an EWI into Logic
> on one laptop  
> and looping it in Mobius on a second laptop. I think
> I will use that  
> a lot in the future.
> 
> Then there are all kind occasional systems mocked up
> by EDP and MIDI  
> synchronizable analog filterbank, but I only use
> them in the studio  
> (when I need some special sound) because they are
> too heavy to  
> transport to gigs.
> 
> Greetings from Sweden
> 
> Per Boysen
> www.boysen.se (Swedish)
> www.looproom.com (international)
> http://tinyurl.com/2kek7h (latest music release)
> 
> 
> 



 
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