Re: RC-50 weirdness: conclusion (typo)

[kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com]

arrgh...

I meant to say "dropped the requirement for a MIDI-START signal" ...  
no, I want them to read MIDI-CLOCK!!!!


Quoting kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com:

> Regarding the use of the RC50 as a slave device I am not conviced that
> it really syncs as a slave.
>
> It appears that when the RC50 recieves a MIDI-START message, it
> attempts to extract the tempo from the incoming MIDI-CLOCK treating it
> like a "tap" tempo then otherwise continue in "free run" mode.
>
> I would find the RC50 more useful it they dropped the requirement for a
> MIDI-CLOCK signal and provided settings for "Internal" or "External"
> sync.  (Instead they have "internal" and "both").  I don't see a need
> for "both".  With External sync, the RC50 would simply sync in real
> time with the incoming clock.    Then one would start/stop the loops
> with foot pedals or CC events (same as when using internal sync).
>
> My hunch (not knowing the software internals) is that the RC50 is
> designed to run with its internal clock in free-run mode and doesn't
> continuously sync with the incoming clock source.  The reason I say
> this is because when I do an accelerando or retard on the master tempo
> the RC50 doesn't track it.  It requires a MIDI start message for the
> RC50 to sample the incoming tempo and set its internal clock to the
> tempo that it detects.  As noted, the problem with this arrangement is
> that the tempo detection is innaccurate and it doesn't track in sync
> with the master.
>
> Now, in all fairness, I have only tried syncing to me computer
> (Firepod) interface and haven't tried it with other sources.  However,
> from the posts I am reading I am getting the impression that the issue
> is with the RC50 rather than the Firepod.  Incidentally, I can easily
> sync my K2600's internal clock to the Firepod.
>
> So, my question is: Has ANYONE successfully synced the RC50 to an
> external clock?  If there is a definate "yes" then I'll go back to the
> drawing board, though I am running out of options here.
>
> In the meantime, I am using some VST delays that are part of Cubase SX3
> to accomplish my looping -- I am about 5 1/2 minutes into a new
> composition and the first in which I will incorporate live loops.  The
> info on this mailing list and on the links from this list have been
> very valuable to me and I appreciate the contributions of one and all.
>
> -- Kevin
>
>
> Quoting Teddy <teddybutter@mac.com>:
>
>> call them once a week to complain about this stuff. If they don't  hear
>> from us it will never get fixed.
>>
>> squeaky wheels unite
>>
>> Teddy