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Re: crossfading

Per -

Your always a wealth of information .... Glad to know you can always give 
the real deal on any topic loop related.

I need to check out Augutus looper, thats one I haven't tried ... and you 
right, I am interested in being able to control the morph, so to speak.  
Ableton has the approach I like best, since it is closest to what a DJ 
...... assign a few things to different groups (A, B) and then fade 
them - doing that with 5 or 6 of your own generated loops is great fun.

On DJs ::::

A while back I knew a DJ that used a boomerang, did a real nice job 
loops and playing techno over it.  He was, of course, very annoyed when he 
realized that the loops weren't actually synced up with the turntables, 
try as he might, the two always drifted apart very quickly.

I would like to see what DJs are doing nowadays with loops ... anyone know 
any good examples of that ?

>From: Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
>Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>Subject: Re: crossfading
>Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 17:01:54 +0100
>On 11 jan 2007, at 16.31, aaron leese wrote:
>>I'm not sure if this posted last time, there is almost never NO  reponse 
>>on this list.
>>I was just wondering if anyone else is interested in being able to  
>>crossfading between loop ..... seems like a useful feature to  me ..... 
>>especially for DJs who use crossfaders ad nauseum.
>>but I don't know if I have really seen it done much before.
>I am! I'm definitely interested in crossfading between loops and I do  it 
>quite often in my sets.
>>If your not sure what I mean by crossfading between loops, please  check 
>>out this demo:
>Yes, I hear you. The guy on the video seems to use a dj mixer and  those 
>all rely on a global crossfade control fader to morph  between two 
>channels, typically carrying a turntable signal each. I  guess what you 
>interested in is the MORPHING quality? I mean, a  lot of loopers do 
>switching" all the time, jumping from let's  say beat three in loop one 
>beat there in loop two and eventually  back again. But there's no 
>simultaneous fading happening here, no  morphing, just a direct switching.
>Don't know if you're interested in loose feedback on the topic, but  
>this is a discussion list - here we go...
>A very simple kind of crossfade between two mono loops is to use the  pan 
>knob for a stereo channel; if the stereo channel is played back  in mono 
>the pan knob will work just as a crossfading volume contol.  Myself I 
>done a lot of crossfading with an analog filterbank  that gives the 
>to use filter cut-off for to morph from one  signal chain into another 
>(picked up the idea long ago from  hearing mixes by ARmand van Helden). 
>anyone using Ableton Live  there is a built-in corssfade function: each 
>track/channel can be  given an "A" or "B" suffix to bind them for either 
>side of the  crossfade controller. When looping with many looping devices 
>or with  a multi channel looper I do crossfades by using the volume 
>In  Mobius I have certain scripts (binded to physical MIDI buttons on my  
>Faderfox hand controller) that either Fade In or Fade Out the loop  
>on a certain Track/Channel. To set off an automized crossfade  I simply 
>press two buttons: FAde Out for the playing loop and Fade IN  for the 
>silent loop that I want to take over. I tend to prefer long  crossfade 
>times for this because I play instruments at the same time,  but also 
>because I find that more musically interesting. To create  glitchy stuff 
>(that many DJ's do on a dj mixer/turntables) I rather  like to use the 
>direct slice cutting of a loop - inserting chunks of  new audio here and 
>there.  Speaking about Fade In/Out, the AU looping  plug-in Augustus 
>already have built-in support for doing that.  The GUI have a button 
>"Fade" and it fades in if the volume is  down and fades out if the volume 
>is up - even better than my  scripting fix in Mobius! When running 
>Augstus Loop plug-ins  this function gives a crossfade functions.
>Greetings from Sweden
>Per Boysen
>www.boysen.se (Swedish)
>www.looproom.com (international)
>http://tinyurl.com/fauvm (podcast)

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