Re: ...what to go for then?

[Paul Richards <paulrichard10@adelphia.net>]

"Also, it´d be cool to go stereo, but as far as I know, the RC-50 is the 
only that would go stereo, and RC-50 is not a choice now. "


But the Boomerang IS a choice!? If one doesn't care about sound quality, I 
guess. I bought one once and sent it back as it sounded very muddy.

Paul 

---- Joshua Carroll <josh@infinivert.com> wrote: 
> Cool!  Sounds like a fun show.
> 
> I'm no hardware expert, but I'd look at the Gibson Echoplex Digital Pro 
> I know it does all you want.  If you ask around on this list, there may 
> be one or two up for sale.  If you want to do multiple loops with 
> separate volumes, etc., you'll have to look at the Looperlative or go 
> the laptop route.  The Boomerang might also work.  I believe it does 
> Verse/Chorus type "Or" loops, but I don't know if it has a multiply 
> function for laying longer loops over shorter ones.  The Repeater might 
> also be cool to use with a DJ since I hear it has some pretty cool 
> time-stretching capabilities, but beyond that I don't know any of it's 
> functionality.  Other people on here might be able to make other 
> suggestions.
> 
> Also, be aware that I believe most of the hardware loopers out there are 
> mono, not stereo.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> --Josh
> 
> 
> 
> tunga.muzik wrote:
> > Well, what do you want to do?
> > - Mostly to be able to loop in sync to what a Dj is playing.
> >  
> > Are you playing an instrument, singing, beatboxing? 
> > - Yes, I´d be playing guitars, bass guitar and singing.
> >  
> > Is it important for you to be able to have seperate loops for 
> > verse/chorus type structures or to overdub longer phrases overtop of 
> > shorter ones?
> > - Yes this is very important.
> >  
> > Do you need to be able to control volumes of seperate loops 
> > simultaneously?
> > - Not so important at first, but really cool.
> >  
> > Also, it´d be cool to go stereo, but as far as I know, the RC-50 is 
> > the only that would go stereo, and RC-50 is not a choice now. All 
> > others I guess would cost me double to do so.
> >
> > --Josh
> >
> >
> >
> > tunga.muzik wrote:
> >
> >>     I´m going with the individual items idea. I really ain´t got the
> >>     time to try a laptop system, although that sure might have its
> >>     highlights.
> >>      
> >>     The purpose of  question at first was really _to have info from
> >>     you guys who own or have owned and performed live_ with models
> >>     like RC-20, RC-20XL, JamMan, Boomerang, Akai Headrush....the
> >>     standard units, cause I´ll probably go for one of these. Also,
> >>     it´d be so cool learning with you people who have performed with
> >>     a DJ, in a "live" experience. That would really make clear which
> >>     features can not fail, or must be reliable at all.
> >>      
> >>     See, at this point it´s about getting the coolest/best individual
> >>     unit, so that I can perform a very reliable/creative gig with the
> >>     DJ community and/or a stand alone act - have in mind I would go
> >>     for the RC-50 before reading web reviews about it, so it´s not
> >>     all about saving a few bucks.
> >>      
> >>     Also, the DD-20 and LINE 6 DL4, I wouldn´t consider using them as
> >>     a looper unit, as I think it´d be a limited choice for a serious
> >>     looper. Now thinking it as a delay unit, again from you actual or
> >>     past owners, what about the features, sound quality, ease of
> >>     use of each one, which is the best?
> >>      
> >>     Thanks again.
> >>      
> >>     Peace.
> >>      
> >>      
> >>      
> >>      
> >>      
> >>
> >>         ----- Original Message -----
> >>         *From:* Douglas Baldwin <mailto:coyotelk@optonline.net>
> >>         *To:* tunga.muzik <mailto:tunga.muzik@terra.com.br> ;
> >>         Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >>         <mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> >>         *Sent:* Tuesday, August 08, 2006 11:18 AM
> >>         *Subject:* Re: ...what to go for then?
> >>
> >>         Hey community-
> >>             Have we ever discussed the difference between a looper
> >>         and a long delay? Methinks a looper can store a few audio
> >>         loops, can start, stop, restsart and/or continue on command,
> >>         and can "undo" one or more levels of looping. A long delay
> >>         won't do these things, but will have a feedback function so
> >>         loops can fade away as new material is added. Any more
> >>         differentiating features?
> >>             I ask this because I'm reading this thread, thinking,
> >>         Boss DD-20! Boss DD-20! Makes a great looper! (except it
> >>         doesn't do those "looper" things mentioned above)
> >>          
> >>         Douglas Baldwin, coyote-at-large
> >>         www.thecoyote.org <http://www.thecoyote.org>
> >>         coyotelk@optonline.net <mailto:coyotelk@optonline.net>
> >>          
> >>         "Life! Life!
> >>         Clouds and clowns!
> >>         You don't have to come down!"
> >>         - Sly and the Family Stone
> >>         ----- Original Message -----
> >>
> >>             *From:* tunga.muzik <mailto:tunga.muzik@terra.com.br>
> >>             *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> >>             <mailto:Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> >>             *Sent:* Tuesday, August 08, 2006 12:19 AM
> >>             *Subject:* ...what to go for then?
> >>
> >>             Hi there,
> >>              
> >>             I´m also new to this community, been playing guitar for
> >>             15 years now and have been invited by some DJs to perform
> >>             live with them. Obviously I need a looper, and I was just
> >>             about to go and get a RC-50 , but that was before I read
> >>             reviews on harmony-central, musiciansfriend.com, loopers
> >>             delight, etc.....I was excited about going stereo, having
> >>             3 phrase tracks, such long recording time......bla, bla,
> >>             bla...........but as I would have it mainly for live
> >>             performances, just put it aside for this moment.
> >>              
> >>             RC-20XL is mono, seems to degrade sound quality as more
> >>             phrases are added onto previous recorded ones, has the 2
> >>             seconds pressed pedal waiting time to change
> >>             recording/dubbing functions......sounds not pro enough.
> >>              
> >>             Also read a lot about some little issues on Digitech
> >>             JamMan, Boomerang, Electro Harmonix 2880, etc.......even
> >>             the Gibson Echoplex Digital ProPlus got bad reviews.
> >>              
> >>             Sincerely....I got lost in the middle of everything, so
> >>             it got cloudy for me to define what should I buy at this
> >>             moment, what will give me condition for a reliable and
> >>             creative live performance, and also be a smart option
> >>             regarding the cost X benefit X technology X quality issue.
> >>              
> >>             Counting on your expertise people....thanks a lot.
> >>              
> >>             Peace.
> >>              
> >>             TUNGA
> >>
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