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Re: BAY AREA new music scene

David Gans wrote:
"I tried, believe me.  But I just wasn't weird enough."

Oh, I"m sure you did and sometimes, I agree, we are just not the right 
for a gig and it's good to 'get' it.

Although another thought I had about this later was that one of the most 
enjoyable experimental music
gigs I"ve seen in the past year was when our own Ted Killian played with 
Jeff Kaiser.

Ted did an amazing job of providing Jeff with beautiful and relatively 
inside and consonant background
pads that were constantly evolving..................judged alone, they 
have fit in with most ambient concerts
but the backdrop was exquisite for Jeff's  really fascinating and more 
avanted garde explorations.

I have to admit,  a lot of new music and experimental music performances 
leave me cold because they
tend to be devoid of contrast other than the:

Cliche formula for multiple person free improvs:

play disonantly and really sparsely........................(the quiet 
now play disonantly and really fill all the space    (the loud part).
go back to the disonant, sparse approach until you just stop playing.

Of course,  there are wonderful free players who avoid these cliches.    
wife and I were lucky enough to participate in the longest running free 
music weekly improv in London a couple of years ago when the fantastic 
musician Paul Shearsmith took us.
we had nothing to play but what people lent us,  objects in the room and 
voices and there were a good 7 or 8 musicians in a couple of hour improv 
that never stopped.  It was amazing.  I wish to hell we had taped it 
it was one of the best things I've ever heard or participated in in the 
improv scene.

D:   "That's the ticket.  As I've said before, I am a pretty
straightforward singer-songwriter type with a passion for loop
improv.  I'm better off slipping my weirdness into straighter gigs
than vice versa."

R:   I'm with you there.

D: "BTW, I played a gig with Joe Rut a couple of months ago.  He left all
his gear at home and delivered a set of great solo acoustic songs."

R:   Many, I am impressed with Joe Rut, I have to say.   He just seems 
someone who really listens
and really thinks about his response to everything.   I can't wait to see 
Lucio and him play in Boise in a
couple of weeks.        That show that had Ted and Jeff on it  also 
was really enjoyable that evening too,   one of the best 2nd Sundays shows 
we've had to date.

D:   I've been playing with Henry off and on since 1988.  The last time we
played together, on March 9, the set list included Richard Thompson,
the Grateful Dead, Bob Dylan, "Spill the Wine" (Eric Burdon and War),
and other pop classics.

R:   Wow,  that's incredible.  I"m soooo jealous of you.

D:    There was a gig in 1993 (I think) in which I found myself on stage
between Henry and the saxophonist David Murray - two veritable fire
hydrants of music - hanging on for dear life.  That was a blast!

R:   Again,  what an amazing experience that must have been.

D:  But I too,  feel that I like conventional music too much for the
avante garde scene and am too 'out' for the conventional pop world

R: I so relate to you.

D:  We need to find a scene that supports precisely our weirdness quotient!

R:  Well, funny you should mention it.

Are you familiar with AmyXs work?     her husband, Herb Heinz's music?
Do you know the SF band,  Eddy the Rat?       Niki Selkin's work?    Peter 
Whitehead's work?  eve someone big
like the Sleep Time Gorilla Museum.

They are all bay area people doing unusual pop music that is decidedly out 
of the box.

I've been thinking that someday I should put together an experimental pop 
festival here in Santa Cruz and over at an art gallery
in San Jose.     Would you want to participate?