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Re: 2 Questions

Save your money for the Repeater's noise mod, it's not
going to help your problem.  Your problem stems from
the fact that the Repeater is a line level device. 
You are plugging it into amps that have preamps built
in to deal with instrument level signals.  Your
probably overdriving your guitar amp's preamp stage
and surely tring to boost a signal that doesn't need

I know it's a shame that Electrix didn't design the
Repeater to be more guitar friendly, but that's the
way it is.  I've found the only really good way to use
it is to have it in a line level effects loop of a
guitar amp or mixer and then into some sort of
amp/monitor system.  I do it two ways.  In and out of
the stereo line level effects loop of my Johnson
guitar amp (not made any longer) or out of my
Soundcraft board's effects out and back into 2 of it's
inputs.  The main out of the mixer goes into a pair of
powered Mackie Studio monitors.  The M-Audio powered
monitors are pretty damn good and will cost you about
the price of a decent stereo receiver and I think do a
better job for you.

I know that Electrix was recommending a line to
instrument level converter... it was in a FAQ
somewhere on their site.  This might be another way to

--- matthew.quinn@sunlife.com wrote:

> Thanks for the info.........
> Ideally, while my home stereo does work- my music
> room is seperate from the
> living room, where the stereo is house, so I'm
> looking for a seperate
> system. I might buy a cheap home stereo if that is
> the best option, but I
> have got to believe there is a better amplification
> system for the Repeater
> than a home stereo. That wil remain an aoption
> though, for sure. I've often
> though about trying the digital output on the
> Repeater, but have never done
> it- maybe I will give it a whirl tonight.
> As far as the GT6-B, for now, I need to have it stay
> on the FX loops
> because as you suspected, I use it a lot to affect
> the recorded loops- once
> I have a MoFx this will probably change, but for now
> I need it where it is.
> But that brings me to another question- currently, I
> AM already running the
> main instrument (regardless of whether it is the
> synth or my bass) into the
> back panel input on the Repeater, should I be
> running it into the
> instrument input? Any suggestions on a cheap DI box
> that will work? And if
> I *do* put a DI box between the instrument &
> Repeater, will I need to turn
> it off when playing synth instead of bass?
>              "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar       To:
> Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com                 
>              Straschill"                       cc:  
>              <rs@moinlabs.de>                 
> Subject:  2 Questions                               
>              04/03/2006 01:09 PM                    
>              Please respond to                      
>              Loopers-Delight                        
> Matthew,
> regarding question #1:
> a) if your noise problem is greatly reduced when
> using the repeater with
> your computer speakers in comparison to your guitar
> amp, I'd suggest that
> the repeater/guitar amp combination is the problem,
> not the repeater per
> se.
> The noise mod might help you to get rid of some of
> that noise (i.e. the
> noise you hear when using the computer speakers),
> but not of everything.
> For
> your home listening pleasure, I don't see any reason
> why working with your
> stereo receiver would hurt. If the receiver has an
> S/PDIF input, you might
> even connect your Repeater to that (and avoid noise
> from its analogue
> output
> stages).
> b) would it be possible (from the way your
> playing/sound editing works) to
> put the GT6-B before the Repeater, or would you be
> able to adapt to using
> it
> this way? There would be two advantages: first, you
> wouldn't have to use
> the
> Repeater's instrument input, which is one of its
> biggest noise sources.
> Plus, any condition of your signal affecting the
> dynamics (for bass
> players:
> typically compression) would happen before the
> repeater, so the compressor
> would not "pull up" the repeater's input noise at it
> is currently.
> If you can't use the GT6-B before the Repeater (e.g.
> because you use it to
> effect the recorded loops all the time), then using
> a small DI to connect
> your bass to the rear input of the Repeater will
> help a little.
>              Rainer
> > #1- I am mainly a Repeater user. I am currently
> running a
> > Roland RS-5 or my bass into the Repeater, then on
> the FX loop
> > of the Repeater is a Boss GT6-B. Now, with this
> set up I
> > can't  use my amp (GK Backline 250 into an Ampeg
> 2x10)
> > without horrible noise issues. I know at least
> some of this
> > is due to the Repeater's inherent noise problem,
> which I will
> > resolve in due time with the mod offered by
> AudioPros. In the
> > meantime, though, I have the output of the
> Repeater hooked to
> > a small set of computer speakers, which seem to
> output the
> > loops without the same amount of background noise-
> but of
> > course, being computer speakers, they don't
> reproduce bass or
> > any kind of drum very well. So essentially, I am
> just looking
> > for *the best way to monitor my Repeater's output
> at home in
> > my music room*. I am open to all options people
> think might
> > work- would a small PA do the trick? a power amp &
> set of
> > monitors? A home stereo receiver & speakers ( I
> hooked up the
> > Repeater tomy stereo & it sounded great)? Any help
> would be
> > greatly appreciated, I'm going deaf from working
> on
> > headphones constantly. : )
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