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Re: Changing Meters



I was just reading Eric Tamm's book on Fripp
(http://www.erictamm.com/tammfripp.html) and came across a few
wonderful rhythmic exercises just in time for this LD discussion of
odd meters.  Synchronicity.

An example of a Guitar Craft rhythm exercise goes something like...

Start with a 5/8 rhythm (ONE two THREE four five) against a quarter
note pulse so the whole pattern repeats every 10 eighth notes.  Then
add a 7/8 rhythm (ONE two THREE four FIVE six seven) over top.  So now
you've got 7/8 over 5/8 over a steady 2/8 pulse.  Wierd syncopated
throbbing goodness.  Do the same thing with melodic ostinatos and you
get a wonderful whirly thing as the ostinatos drift apart and back
together.  Of course, in this example it takes 35 bars for the whole
mess to repeat, but I've found you can shorten it nicely by throwing
in a bar of 6/8 or 8/8 instead of the 7/8 every now and then.

This is probably old hat to the polyrhythmic masters out there, but
it's new to me and I'm having great fun with it.

On 2/9/06, mark sottilaro <zerocrossing2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
> This is very interesting to me, as I'm in a class
> right now, but I realized last class that the beat was
> way way way easier to follow (we were doing 4 against
> 6) *if I gave it a melody*.  Why?  Don't know but I
> bet it has a lot to do with the same chunk of gray
> matter.
>
> Mark
>
> --- Bill Fox <billyfox@soundscapes.us> wrote:
>
> > joe rut wrote:
> >
> > > johnsrude@peak.org wrote:
> > >
> > >> You can actually get the hang of odd meter really
> > fast if you don't
> > >> count in
> > >> numbers but in syllables, which takes advantage
> > of our speech centers.
> > >
> > > I have a song on my first album that is an
> > instrumental that goes back
> > > and forth between 3/4 + 4/4 (or 7/8), and 6/8. The
> > band could not
> > > figure it
> > > out until I made up nonsense words to sing to it:
> >
> > Real neat idea.
> >
> > > "I'm going to the store with my dog = 9 syllables
> > > I'm going to the store with my puppy doggie = 12
> > syllables
> > > My puppy doggie = 5 syllables
> > > my puppy doggie = 5 syllables
> > > he is a really spiffy doggie" = 9 syllables
> >
> > Am I missing something?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
>
>
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