At 5:13 PM +0100 12/29/05, RPGfreak@web.de wrote: >Does anyone know or use that thing? How suitable >is it for looping? Can feedback be controlled? >How is MIDI control or control on the device itself? >I was thnínking about getting one since it's >rackformat is handy. SInce I play ambient music >with lots of evolving textures, a long loop time >would be nice. If it's a decent price, grab it. Go through the list archives, you'll see lots of posts regarding the Line 6 Echo Pro and DL-4 (they're pretty much 90% the same machine, only in different form factors). Also, I think there are some write-ups on the main LD site. I've got two of the Echo Pro's, as well as a DL-4 I use in a busking rig. In short, I think think they're wonderful (I love the Line 6 stuff; it's dead simple and sounds great). Essentially, the Echo Pro is the same engine as the DL-4 stompbox. The main differences are that with the Echo Pro you've got an expanded 60 seconds of loop time or 120 seconds if you begin recording in half-speed mode, better audio quality (IMNSHO) with an improved S/N Ratio due to the balanced I/O, and full MIDI control of the front panel parameters. Also, I'm another person who prefers the convenience of having everything in a rack, rather than dealing with a mess of spaghetti on the floor, but obviously YMMV on that last point. Downsides are that, just as on the DL-4, the loop algorithm squashes everything down into mono (why, Why, WHY did they do that <*grumble*>). I deal with that little design flaw by having two Echo Pro's running together as a "pseudo stereo" pair. And while you can control all the parameters via MIDI you still can't sync the loop itself to MIDI clock. As for Feedback, you don't have a Feedback control on the looping presets per se, but you can get the same effect (each new overdub squashes the older layers a little further down into the murk, er... mix) by playing with the Mix control as you record into the loop. You say you play ambient music with a lot of evolving textures, so here's an example to which you might relate: I have mine dedicated solely to my E-mu Morpheus (controlled by a Yamaha G-10). Using just the distortion guitar patches on the Morpheus into the Echo Pro's, I can pretty much replicate the classic Frippertronics sounds from Fripp & Eno's "No Pussyfooting" or "Evening Star". So, that should give you a (very) raw baseline. Now start updating the sounds you're feeding into the Echo Pro and you can take it into some really cool directions. Just do it! ;) --m. -- _______ "Take a packet of seeds. Take yourself out to play I want to see river of orchids where we had a motorway..."