Just got off the phone with EH in NYC. here's the scoop on the upgrade to the EH16 second delay they are offering. It is a software upgrade (which is why they need to do it in house - it's not via midi or a chip). It gives you the ability to turn off the count in entirely when you slide the coarse slider all the way to the top at >32. This also now allows you to step on record to start the loop and step on Play to stop it manuall. The loop will automatically loop when you do that. If you want to have the count it simply turn the coarse liser to anything but the top >32 mode and it's back. Now the only catch is the Fine slider STILL is the internal clock and this is spitting out midi sync at the clock to the pedal NOT the Start/Stop you manally stomp in in this new mode. So you cannot use it like a jamman setting both the loop and syncing it to spit out midi clock at your tempo. I suppose the idea is you use the click (or a metronome/beat on your midi box) to know what the tempo is and then you can start/stop from there manually. It's not perfect for sloppy/crazy imrpoov players (ie: like me :))) but eliminating the count in and letting you manually start stop is FAR better than the original feature where you HAD to wait and then sync with the box. The upgrade also adds true two octave pitch shifting so if you leave the slider in the middle position you cann now slide one ocatve UP and one Down. THAT is very cool. Cost is $35 in the US including return shipping. They said they are just getting the word out and haven't done many but they expect they will only keep them there a day or two so turnaround is reasonable with any delay being from the travel time during the holiday season. You don't need an RMA# just send it to New Seson in Long Island "attn" 16 second updage" I'm sending mine in this week. Will keep everyone posted. Really looking forward to taking control of my loop destiny. THANKS to the list members who posted this! D_ ___________________________________________________________________ HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more.