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Re: why do we play live? (mini Adrian Belew review too!)
After they bump into you the first time, use a well placed leg to send
them on their asses. Do it again if they come by again. And again.
Even the most stoned moron will figure it out.
PS - maybe this ethic comes from my punk rock roots, where the pit was
the pit, but if you went too far astray, you got what you deserved.
Todd Howell wrote:
>I am beginning to get to the same place. I understand the need to move
>and physically express joy to music. A very necessary thing at some
>level. On the other hand, being so cluster-f*ckingly self absorbed as to
>dance into people and being completely disrespectful of their personal
>space and enjoyment of the concert is just plain unacceptable. Most of
>these particular folk are on some manner of chemically-based agenda in
>relation to the music. I've no problem with that, being that I've enjoyed
>certain moments of chemically induced musical appreciation on many an
>occasion, though that is no longer a possibility while trying to go to
>school and pay a mortgage. The whole self-absorbed aspect of that manner
>of behaviour seems off-putting. It all boils down to basic respect for
>the artist and your fellow audiwnce members. And unfortunately, there is
>a complete drought of such behaviour. I am to the point where I only go
>to see live music 7-10 times a year any more. Too many headaches,
>including parking, price, other concert-goers, onwards to poor sound
>quality and crap venues. What about you? I realize alot of this is a
>function of age and am willing to be consider an old f*rt.
>He who lurks.........
>From: mark sottilaro <email@example.com>
>Sent: Oct 10, 2005 2:40 PM
>Subject: Re: why do we play live? (mini Adrian Belew review too!)
>I hear you Ted. Oh I hear you. Though, oddly enough
>I've enjoyed your performances each time I've seen
>Here's another bit:
>Why do I go see live music?
>Friday I went to see Adrian Belew at Slim's in SF. As
>always Adrian was great. He seems comfortable and
>downright gleeful on stage running through his set.
>However, I left thinking I'd never go to another show
>again. Why? A few reasons.
>One: TOO FUCKING LOUD. I'm sick of going to shows
>that are so loud you need ear protection. Your choice
>is then to hurt yourself or hear a muddy muffled
>version. When shows can cost as much as $80 a ticket
>(Hi Prince!) you'd think a well balanced audio set up
>can be expected, but this is rarely the case in my
>experience. I've been at Adrian Belew and King
>Crimson shows that were so loud I needed ear
>Two: Over zealous dancers. Friday night much of the
>time was spent trying to get away from or ignore to
>smelly idiots who seem to think that dancing wildly in
>a crowded club is OK. To them: I'm sorry your father
>never paid attention to you and I know you feel that
>no one loves you, but regardless, we didn't come to
>see you so please settle down and enjoy the show. Do
>aerobics at your gym.
>Three: I'm 5'7" and my girlfriend is 5'. We had a
>hard time seeing a damn thing most of the night.
>So, I've kind of sworn myself off live music for the
>time being. Each time I go I end up disappointed.
>Maybe this is why I generally avoid playing live as
>--- ArsOcarina@aol.com wrote:
>>As some one who just played Y2K3 last night and who
>>listening to the live stream of Billy "Gee-tar Man"
>>Walker -- sweeping
>>the floor of all other pretenders -- I have to say
>>definatively . . .
>>I dunno . . .
>>It's a kind of "mountain" that I psych myself up to
>>climb a half dozen
>>times (sometimes more, sometmes less) a year. I am
>>ever satisfied with these "climbing" experiences. I
>>too often go ill
>>prepared (or equipped) and wind up sliding halfway
>>down a glacier
>>on my sorry ass. Sometimes it happens even when I am
>>well prepared and outfitted too.
>>The rare "satisfying" performances seem to come
>>random and unexpectly. There seems to be no
>>"science" to it. All
>>of my disciplined preperations (if and when I apply
>>to have little to no affect on the outcome actually.
>>to amount to little more than a more elaborate form
>>my fingers" and/or some sort of offeratory to the
>>gods of "guilt"
>>and "responsibility." And . . . I don't want t let
>>I suppose I perform live because I keep hoping for
>>that next repeat
>>of the rare, blissful, play-my-ass-off,
>>where-the-hell-is-this-music-coming-from (surely not
>>For only having had a taste of it a few times I am
>>still certainly addicted
>>nonetheless. I need it now as surely as a junky
>>needs a fix.
>>But why? God, I wish I knew. Sometimes I think I'd
>>go into rehab and
>>"take the cure" to be rid of it for all the grief
>>it's caused me. Then,
>>at other times, I'd trade my left nut to taste of
>>that bliss again.
>>tEd ® kiLLiAn
>>PS. Buy "Flux Aeterna" from CDBaby during the months
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