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On Feb 14, 2005, at 12:50 PM, Harrison wrote:

I thought Larry raised many valid issues. Music not technology is paramount.

Thank you Kevin,

I may be off of the mailing list but I would like to thank you for supporting that key thing.
Sometimes technology does 'hot-wire' musicians to achieve new and exciting results, but on the flip-side it can encourage techno heads & musical neophytes to think that they're making 'cutting-edge' music, when they no very little about music per se.
What is technology but a way to bring something to the fore and not as a means in itself. I think a lot of people here have it wrong and I'm disin' them I know. So what?

However as this forum attracts both musicians seeking technical advice and technician types seeking musical advice I don't see much of a problem.

I have never seen anyone ask for musical advice. But I may have missed it with all of the what about the MC-22 and how do you turn on the coffee maker function.

Damn if I didn't hate looking at a manual that is so cracked that it defies you to crack it. I won't waste my time eating someone's poop or loop my own.
Vive la difference!

Well yes but no. Viva la musique!
* Remember sometimes great musical ideas come from 'out of the blue' by untrained artists whilst shit can also come from the most educate.

Yes but I am not my education I am only served by my education and not too much. History is it. Just like American voted for Bush because they have no "history" a player who knows nothing about music history is doomed to repeat it, get stoned and think he is a rebel.


On Feb 14, 2005, at 19:45, Larry Cooperman wrote:

Hi Tony,

I listened and I found the comp wanting nothing and found the title quite proper for the sonic result. Very, very good!

I have found that a lot of the people on this mailing list really don't understand music.

They understand machines, popular "music," multimedia and other things wrapped up in technology but music no.

So I would take what everyone says here with a grain or a load of salt.

A while back I gave a series of compositions to one of these people and his brother for their amusement and because the primary function of the stuff was music, I heard nothing from them. They don't understand music as an organic growing thing, they understand it as part of a social order that they grew up with. This I know because I heard them. As good as they are I heard nothing new what-so-ever. So when confronted with something that they haven't heard before they were silent.

What I mean to say is that music has a life beyond classifiers like popular and technology. It is pure expression without the need for monikers.

We have a lot of highly intelligent people here who are schooled and well read but treat their music like vestiges of their teenage years and nothing beyond that. When I say they don't understand music I mean it. They have no historical perspective at all and believe me that is need in the music arts as it is in any other. How the hell do you know when you're being a "rebel" if you know nothing about what you're "rebelling" against.

There are no rebels here. I read these emails from time to time most of the time I just delete them because of the banal content, people thinking they're really. really cutting edge and they are just not.

I may get a kick out of something here someday but I attended Y2K4, did a really horrible performance myself but I am sure that I made sounds that I hadn't heard before based on the chaos of all of the crappy gear that was meant to represent me.

Is a paint brush gear? Is a vibrating string gear? Gear, gear so what if there is no electricity? Technology has made musicians out of lawyers and bakers? No. At least not in my book.

As well, a person playing in a orchestra is not the same caliber creator as some of the Loopers. I always thought that being a musician had something to do with creation and with some orchestra musicians, you take the sheet music away and they order a pizza. There was a time in classical music when everyone improvised.

Take what I say as not another opinion but a judgment. I have some historical perspective.

Larry Cooperman
New Millennium Guitar


Larry Cooperman
New Millennium Guitar