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AW: OT ELP/JP (rip)

I do not see the point in extracting information about casual
relationships from small-number statistics, especially if they're not
done right. There are two names which are still current, KC and Floyd.
One of them has issued a double album, the other one hasn't. So I do not
see any relationship here.

For me, the question holds why the current group of Robert Fripp still
has the same name as the late-sixties group of which Fripp was a part,
the seventies group of Fripp and the eighties group of Fripp. Following
the reinstallment of the KC name in the nineties, Fripp has written very
elaborately why this group was - again - named King Crimson. Other
people suggested it had more to do with financial losses suffered by
Fripp just before King Crimson reappeared.

I like some of their eighties stuff, I like some of their nineties
stuff. But I don't think it's King Crimson. 

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: David Kirkdorffer [mailto:vze2ncsr@verizon.net] 
Gesendet: Samstag, 5. Februar 2005 01:30
An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Betreff: Re: OT ELP/JP (rip)

Technically, the Young Person's Guide to King Crimson was a double
album, but I see your point.  Perhaps the fact that KC didn't issue a
double album ever is really a positive thing.  Afterall, they are the
only name that still is current (aside from Pink Floyd) from among that
stable of peers.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" <rs@moinlabs.de>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 5:25 PM
Subject: AW: OT ELP/JP (rip)

> I used to dislike any kind of organ use in rock (or jazz) music. Then 
> I listened to Tarkus to the first time...the beginning of the organ 
> solo in "Mass" seemed unreal to me - this sounded like someone 
> starting to puke! I may not say this album has changed my life, but it

> definitely changed my live sound!
> I once started to write an essay about the progressive rock 
> phenomenon, and there I stated the thesis that each of the big groups 
> of this genre in the seventies reached their climax with their double 
> (or triple) album. For ELP, this was the "Welcome back my friends" 
> album, for Yes, the "Yessongs", and for Genesis, it was the Lamb.
> Alas, there hasn't been a double album by King Crimson (if you don't 
> count in the B'Boom "officialized bootleg")
> And btw, in case you haven't done so already - "UP" by Peter Gabriel 
> is a great album (albeit not a proggy one). I want to own his staff of

> engineers for a day...
> Rainer
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Jesse Lucas [mailto:jlucas@neoprimitive.net]
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. Februar 2005 22:01
> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Betreff: Re: OT ELP/JP (rip)
> ELP was the shit.  Tarkus changed my life.
> Some of the later stuff was...well...just wrong.  Love Beach?  This is

> the same guy who played on In the Court of the Crimson King and 
> Tarkus?
> Oh well.
> Still, what they did that was good, was really good.
> Emerson's organ sound on the first two albums is the best.
> -J
> Suit & Tie Guy wrote:
> > On Feb 3, 2005, at 12:40 PM, goddard.duncan@mtvne.com wrote:
> >
> >> they were a technically-accomplished trio, but quite lacking in any

> >> creative sense-of-purpose or direction, & they managed to alienate 
> >> many peers in the business with their in-jokes & technical 
> >> excesses.
> >>
> >> & thus peel described ELP as "a waste of /talent/ & electricity".
> >
> >
> > even put into perspective, John Peel's comments were completely 
> > unfair.
> >
> > ---
> > Eric Williamson
> > www.suitandtieguy.com
> >
> >