what he said. stanthemaninsanfran(longtime abuser of the ORIGINAL <EH16secddl>) > The new EH16 can do that in spades. It's forte is messing with loops in > realtime shifting pitch, time, basically decontructing things and messing > with the original loop mangling it beyond recognition. > > My beef (which has been covered before) is you are a slave to the pedal >in > timing. The pedal requires you to set a specific length and then play the > loop starting and stopping accorind to the setting. You cannot simply > <step on> and start the loop and the <step on> and stop it. This is not > only non intuitive but has made the pedal excruciating for me to use. To > "help" you know when to start stop your playing there is a series of tiny > blinking lights and an inaudible "click" that doesn't even have a > separate out (like in the original) so you at least run that to > headphones or a mixer and make it usable. > > I almost regret buying it at this point. It certainly is NOT essential by > any means. It's only salvation that I can se if using it via midi and > having a drum machine be the click track so you can at leave HEAR that. >It > still is ass backwards making the player slave to the tool rather than > allowing one to freely play and catch what you want on the fly. Truly an > idiotic move on the part of EH IMO. > > I do enjoying having it run amok as a delay and creating freaknoise but > there are cheaper delays that are much more friendly. As a looper it's > failed for me and I still use my simple DL4 which easily does loop, > reverse, and 1/2 time and lets me PLAY and create. > > I'm sure others have different opinions and with some practice you might > get used to it's ways. The timing thing is such a deal breaker for me I > just want to warn any other improve and free form artists to seriously > consider and try it out in person first. I bought into the hype and > marketing (plus I had been wanting one for 20 years) and the bottom line > is this is NOT a reissue at all but a very new product that does >different > things. YMMV.