On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 firstname.lastname@example.org wrote: > >>you are a slave to the pedal in timing. The pedal requires you to set a specific length and then play the loop starting and stopping accorind to the setting. [snip] I do enjoying having it run amok as a delay and creating freaknoise but there are cheaper delays that are much more friendly.<< > > in other words, your mileage may vary. yes, As I stated :) Just to clairfy my point: > it doesn't slave to any other clock /but then/ neither did anything else before midi came along. Never wanted it to slave to a clock. I wanted it to slave to ME and my playing; not the other way around. > it doesn't have tap-tempo /but then/ neither did anything else until quite recently. Again, tap tempo is not my issue. The original pedal worked by a simple <on> you play <off> you stop and the pedal starts looping. this IS how the EPD, DL4, and everything from the Digitech PSD2002 to the Boss DD3 have always worked. it's the easiest and most intuitive way to loop. IMO of course Why THAT particular feature was changed in the "reissue" 16 Delay I guess we'll never know. But it is a significant change which drastically alters how the pedal performs and how it can be used fomr the original pedal. > it has a daft amount of permanent storage & no way of subdividing this so that you can save loops & dredge them up again later..... /but then/ at least it saves the last thing you did. Yes. personally I don't care about 4 minutes of loop time. I'll tke a useable 30 seconds any day. The saving is nice but I honestly never use it. It would be good for recording however. > it goes forwards & backwards & you can vary the pitch & tempo independently or together. That is fun. Once you get what you want IN it of course. > there is definitely a gonzo element to this box which the dl4 never quite had, for me, excellent though it is. The DL4 is a vanilla looper. The EH 16 Mk II is a noise box. I was kind of hoping for a combination of the two. If the EH allowed me to tell it when to start/stop it would be my favorite loop box bar none. I am going to try the midi sync sometime soon. that might greatly help me find a place for this in my setup even if it does force me to bring more equipment. I *am* an experimentor after all :) > but anyway, I noticed that the main board has space for a "midi-in" socket, clearly marked, next to the out that's already there. what where they thinking? I ask that question a lot when I look at this pedal :) ___________________________________________________________________ HELP WANTED PRODUCTIONS - Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com "Bringing you the best in Organic Electronic music since we started..." Home of the Unusual Instrument and Recording Gallery with pictures and info of Tube recorders, Omnichords, weird guitars, Casios, and more.