Oddly enough, the humble Zoom 505, the gen-1 black one, does a terrific job with octave-down when you use the expression pedal. It tracks very, very well, even on whole chords, and imparts a great metallic underwater kinda timbre that's very Twin Peaks... makes a great "tic-tac" bass sound out of my guitar. The interval settings are rich and useful as well. If you focus on the 3 or 4 things it excels at and ignore the things it sux at, you can have a great little friend for very few bucks. (I got mine brand new back in 1996 or '97, one of the first ones made, but I'm sure they're going for beer money nowadays ;-) I sang its praises on Harmony Central, but years later I still dig it. (Note: After nearly 10 trouble-free years, it has begun to hiss intermittently, from absolutely dead quiet to "what is that hsssssssss coming from?" ... if any fellow 505ers know what the deal is, lemme know.) Cheerios, Tim Mungenast www.cdbaby.com/mungenast www.mungenast.com -----Original Message----- From: Brian <Brian@porterresearch.com> Sent: Jan 18, 2005 9:13 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: Boss Octave Pedal "Brian - Did you try a whammy pedal yet?" I did, but I found a used PS-5 for less than I could get a whammy pedal, and from the little experimentation I did, I think I like the PS-5 a little better for my purposes. On top of that, it is hard to beat the size of the PS-5, takes up much less floor space (something I seem to be running out of). I have a friend that has a whammy pedal, so I may do some further experimentation with it. Do you know if they have had different releases of the whammy? The one I used seemed to have some trouble with some of the "low" notes(when using 100% effect, down 1 octave).