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Re: Learning in Music, etc

Krisper read this comments from David Crosby on music
education,when i listen to pieces like "Guinnevere" or
Deja-vu is hard to believe that David wasn´t schooled
at all.This pieces are so harmonically complex they
can teach a lesson to any highly educated composer.I
still get chills when i listen to them...

--- Krispen Hartung <info@krispenhartung.com> wrote:

> Matthias: "while the learning really comes from
> playing, and for this, I
> contribute with instruments and music :-)"
> Isn't this the truth! If I could only execute half
> the theoretical music
> and jazz theory academia in my brain, I'd be.....eh,
> well, a player who
> thinks too much and plays too many notes in
> performances? ;)
> Seriously, however, I am a huge proponent of
> learning in music and
> applying in performance. I think many musicians,
> including myself, after
> years of growing on our instruments begin to rest on
> our laurels and
> don't push ourselves anymore. I can hear it in the
> playing of myself and
> others. After a while we become cover musicians of
> our own clichés and
> performance styles.  Sure, we learn new gimmicks,
> tricks, and clichés,
> but I find that actual significant leaps in personal
> musical growth are
> difficult after playing for 25 years. It is easy to
> use gear (looping
> included) to hide behind this fact, but if we remove
> all the loops,
> gear, effects, and alterations, and then gaze upon
> the naked notes and
> raw playing, what is the net gain?  If we remove the
> approving "ooohs
> and awwws" of what we've done with our technical
> savvy, what have we
> accomplished artistically? (these are rhetorical
> questions, by the way)
> My last big spurt was when I joined a World-Beat
> band, in which I also
> learned the sitar.  I pushed myself to learn new
> harmonic textures
> (Eastern, Middle-Eastern, etc) and rhythms....and
> that learning has
> stuck with me for the long run.  And several years
> before that it was
> jazz, the biggest leap in my musical vocabulary and
> expansion of my
> musical palette(again, that painting analogy) to
> eexpressmyself.  One
> could ask, "who the heck cares that you can play a
> melodic minor scale a
> half step aabove an altered dominant chord to
> generate interesting
> tension and release with flat 9s, flat 5s, etc?" 
> Well, at the moment,
> that bit of theory would seem pedantic, but after
> one internalizes and
> consciously "forgets" the approach during live
> performances, it can
> still influence your playing and musical vocabulary
> to express more
> effectively.  It's the old saying about
> theory...learn it, internalize
> it, and then forget it.
> One of my guitar mentors once said in a video if you
> can just spend 10
> minutes a day learning something new on your
> instrument, whether it is a
> new chord, scale, or improvisational technique, you
> can improve
> tremendously over time. It doesn't necessarily
> require that Julliard
> 8-hour a day routine. This is easier said than done,
> of course...at the
> end of the day, what I've done is tweaked more
> knobs, modified more
> parameters, and screwed with more MP3 files than
> actually improving as a
> musician.   
> On accation, we should all lock ourselves in a room
> for a week with
> nothing but an acoustic instrument and tape recorder
> and see if we come
> out with something new in the end.  Of course, by
> that time, some smart
> ass would have re-wired the tape recorder to be a
> looping device!  Heh
> heh.
> ********************************* 
> Krispen Hartung 
> http://www.krispenhartung.com 
> info@krispenhartung.com


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