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Re: Looping with the Echoplex with the Lexicon G2 slaved to its clock
I didn't get a chance to reply to your first message asking if anyone
else does this. I don't use a G2, but I do use a TC-Electronic G-Major,
and it has MIDI synchable delays as well. Sounds like you've
accomplished all that I have - basically synching the EDP and the
G-Major and using various divisions on the GMaj to create interesting
polyrhythms. With longer delay settings (whole note), the line between
delay and loop gets blurred... which is a good thing!
I like using the GMaj to effect my loops (vs. using it to apply effects
to the sound that is captured in the EDP). I use my fx+preamp unit (a
Roland GP-100) to get effected sounds into the loop. The GMaj is a
decent, not-so-farout loop mangler. Delays and modulation are
synchable, and I like that.
By the way - I don't "beware" the EDP features you mentioned (EDP
changes only at the cycle boundary, after you leave the parameter
mode)... instead, I celebrate it! A very nice way to ensure that things
happen musically, and not based on my clunk button pushing skills.
Just thought I'd chime in!
Bernhard Wagner wrote:
>Andy Butler actually gave me the idea to sync them. My approach has always
>been to just hook things up, play them in one configuration for as long as
>possible to explore all possibilities and then shyly move on to further
>settings. Andy configured the G2 to sync in a specific way to the EDP and
>was just right for me. When I came home, the battery inside the G2 had
>and I lost all settings (I should always make a MIDI dump of all devices
>when I found a good setting). I just vaguely remembed what the setting was
>and I'm afraid I didn't get the same configuration back, even though I
>all kinds of combinations. But at least during those tests I learnt how
>EDP slows down its MIDI timing when kicked into halfspeed (because the G2
>delay doubles its time) or when choosing a subcycle division on the EDP,
>G2 reacts to it (but beware: the change of subdivision only happens on the
>EDP when you exit the parameter edit mode. And it only changes at the
>where the current cycle has finished). And then you can configure the G2
>react to 8th, dotted 8th etc. All together this adds up to quite a field
>explore to find good combinations. And of course, there are quite a number
>of G2 effects affected by timing so that adds yet another dimension (not
>speaking of your playing style: rhythmic/spheric)...
>>From: Gary Lehmann [mailto:email@example.com]
>>Sent: Donnerstag, 14. Oktober 2004 01:49
>>To: 'Looper's Delight'
>>Subject: Looping with the Echoplex with the Lexicon G2 slaved to its
>>OK, first breakthrough in a while--
>>As the subject line reads, I am running guitar into the G2, then into the
>>EDP, with the clock out of the EDP driving the G2. I want to
>>hear from some
>>folks who are doing this--looks like Bernhard is one, I believe
>>does this too--but first my big news.
>>I don't have the R1 foot controller; when I bought a second hand one it
>>didn't seem to work right so I sent it back, so I have not been able to
>>control all the parameters of the G2 that I might like. Tonight,
>>I was able
>>to control the delay time ratio, using sysx generated from the unit and
>>stored in a sequencer, then played back during a loop frenzy. This works
>>really well--the clocks are synced, so when you window, the slave changes
>>its time frame too.
>>I haven't gotten that far yet (it's time for bed), but I bet I
>>can start to
>>control lots of the other G2 features now that have been less
>>me up til now. I'll just dump the sysx into the PMC-10 . . .
>>So that's my exciting if technical and abstruse news. What are
>>some of you
>>other G2 users doing with these two units? Does the R1 let you do this